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Episode: "The World | Straight Bible"

Date: January 15, 2026

Hosts: TopLobsta & Raven
Guest: Matt Hepner

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the biblical perspective on "the world" and the underlying systems that govern society. Through extensive scriptural analysis and personal anecdotes, the conversation explores the distinction between being “in the world” but not “of the world”, the spiritual dangers of aligning oneself with worldly systems, and the critical nature of spiritual discernment in navigating everyday life. The dialogue is candid, rich in biblical references, and layered with practical advice for believers on avoiding worldly entanglements and maintaining spiritual integrity.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Brokenness of Worldly Systems (02:03, 08:41, 41:00)

• Matt sets the tone by listing all major American systems—food, healthcare, political, pharmaceutical, judicial—as "broken and corrupt" and ultimately under Satan’s dominion.

  • Quote: "All the systems of the world are completely broken and corrupted and ultimately run by Satan. And that’s the world that we are not a part of, that we’re distinct from." (02:03)

• The goal for Christians, Matt insists, is not to reform these systems but to preach the Gospel and transform individuals through spiritual rebirth.

2. Personal Journey: Wrestling with ‘the World’ (03:05 – 08:33)

• Matt recounts a formative period early in his faith, describing contrasting experiences with poor and wealthy church groups:

  • Poor groups rejected the world, perhaps out of circumstance, while wealthy groups embraced it, sometimes even prioritizing secular events over worship.

• The tension between these stances led Matt to question whether biblical admonitions against "the world" were merely socioeconomic biases or held deeper spiritual meaning.

  • Quote: “It’s very easy for [poor churchgoers] to be like, ‘I don’t like the world.’ But I was like, they’re just doing that because they’re not productive within this world system.” (03:05)

3. Defining "the World": Scriptural Foundation (08:41, 14:55)

• Matt explains the Greek words “aion” (age) and “cosmos” (order, structure, system) as distinct concepts both translated as “world.”

• Scripture Focus: 1 John 2:15-17—“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him...”

  • Quote: “The world passes away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of God abides forever.” (14:55)

• Immediate application: We must choose between investments in the temporal (worldly) or the eternal (Kingdom of God).

4. The Lust of the Flesh, Eyes, and Pride of Life (14:55–30:56)

• The hosts deconstruct how these three categories underpin all worldliness:

  • Lust of the flesh: Sex, food, drugs, laziness, pleasure
  • Lust of the eyes: Covetousness, materialism
  • Pride of life: Reputation, self-sufficiency, independence from God

• Anecdote: Matt admits to once being consumed with status and material blessings, only to later recognize this as “the world” at work.

5. The "Cursed Thing": Jericho and Personal Application (15:18–30:05)

• Matt reads the story of Achan (Joshua 6-7): Israel’s defeat at Ai is traced to one man coveting and hiding forbidden goods, which brings a curse not only on himself but the entire community.

• Matt relates this to his own radical purging of “occult” or spiritually-compromised items from his home, emphasizing the need for vigilance about what believers allow into their lives.

  • Quote: "Cursed things like… are a big deal. I had to make… came to know the Lord and everything I had was… tied to the occult." (25:12)

6. The Parable of the Sower: Worldly Distraction (30:05–35:47)

• Scripture Focus: Matthew 13:1-9; 18-23. "Choked by thorns" = cares of the world and deceitfulness of riches which make believers unfruitful.

• The scriptural warning is especially acute for those successful in the world system—a loaded life is harder to surrender to God (cf. rich young ruler).

  • Quote: “It’ll be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter [the Kingdom].” (35:25)

7. Handling Money and Material Blessing with Open Hands (36:12–38:51)

• Both hosts discuss their personal and theological struggles with money, emphasizing the biblical principle of stewardship—receive with an open hand, give with an open hand.

• Quote: “The money comes in, the money goes out. It’s when it goes in and people go like that… that’s where it gets ugly.” (36:21)

• The challenge: Not to let love of money or material security take the throne in one’s heart.

8. Church and Worldliness: COVID, Compromise, and the Temptation to Complicity (39:15–41:00)

• Matt laments how quickly many churches and believers bent to social pressure during COVID, prioritizing worldly comforts (cruises, basketball games, restaurants) over deeper spiritual allegiance.
  • Quote: “So many Christian people... willing to inject this thing into them… just so they could go on cruises." (39:15)

9. The Salesman Parable: Authority over Riches (41:00–45:03)

• Matt shares how God placed him in a lucrative corporate sales career—exposing him to all the world’s lures—not to corrupt him, but to test whether his heart remained true.
  • Quote: “It’s one thing to say I don’t love the world because I didn’t have access… It was another thing to be like, I don’t love the world even though I do have all access...” (44:04)

10. Jesus’ Teachings: The Eternal Perspective (47:21–51:07)

• Key Scriptures:

  • Matthew 16:24-26: “What is a man profited if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?”
  • Matthew 6:19-21: “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth... but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.”
  • Hebrews 11:13-16: Christians are “strangers and pilgrims” seeking a better, heavenly country.

• Quote: “Our citizenship is in another realm. It’s another kingdom that can’t be seen.” (51:07)

11. Using But Not Abusing the World (53:43–55:26)

• Reference: 1 Corinthians 7:31—“They that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passes away.”
  • Christians must live in the world but remain unattached to its systems and values.

12. Spiritual Metamorphosis: Transformation vs. Conformity (55:26–57:39)

• Romans 12:1-2—Don’t be "conformed" (pressed into the world’s mold) but be "transformed" (metamorphosis) by the renewing of your mind.
  • Quote: “As radical as that change was to Jesus when he was transfigured... that’s what our life is supposed to be like.” (56:43)

13. Counsel of the Ungodly, Biblical Meditation (58:00–61:02)

• Warning against over-consuming worldly wisdom (e.g., podcasts, celebrity thought-leaders) vs. meditating on God’s Word.

  • Psalm 1: Blessed is the one who “walks not in the counsel of the ungodly… but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law doth he meditate day and night.” (58:00–59:36)

• Distinction between biblical meditation (active reflection on Scripture) and Eastern meditation (mind-emptying).

14. The Spirit of the World vs. The Spirit of God (63:48–66:17)

• 1 Corinthians 2:11-14: “We have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God… the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit... for they are spiritually discerned.”

• 2 Corinthians 4:1-4: “The god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not…”

  • Quote: “We’re dealing with blind people… You have to care about people when you’re dealing with them like that.” (68:01)

15. The God of This World: Pledging Allegiance and Grieving God's Heart (66:55–79:34)

• A detailed breakdown of how Satan is designated as the “god of this world”, the “prince of the power of the air,” and why loving the world grieves God's heart.

  • Luke 4:1-8, John 12:28-32, John 16:11, 2 Ephesians 2:1-5

  • Quote: “[Satan says] all this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me…” (81:34)

  • To pledge allegiance to worldly systems is, in effect, to pledge allegiance to Satan.

• 1 Samuel 8: The Israelites ask for a human king so they can be “like the other nations,” rejecting God’s kingship—a powerful parallel for modern Christians tempted by assimilation.

  • Quote: “They have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.” (73:12)

16. Closing Scriptural Warnings (89:53–92:35)

• 1 John 5:4: “For whatsoever is born of God overcomes the world: and this is the victory that overcomes the world, even our faith.”
• James 3:13–4:4: Contrast between godly wisdom and worldly wisdom, and the grave statement:
  • Quote: “Know ye not that friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” (92:35, paraphrased)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Church Worldliness:
  • “A ship in the sea is all right, but the sea in the ship is all wrong… When the sea gets in the ship, the ship is sinking.” (08:41)
• On Material Temptation:
  • “It’s not really about reforming people, but preach death to people so that they die, they’re born again and they’re brought to life in Christ.” (08:41)
• On the Poor vs. Rich Dynamic in Church:
  • “It’s very easy for the poor to say ‘I don’t love the world’ because they’re not succeeding in it. But for the rich, to give up those things, Jesus said it’s hard.” (35:25)
• On Purging "Cursed Things":
  • “I had so much cursed stuff in my house tied to the occult… And I just burned everything out back.” (25:12)
• On Loving the World and Worldliness:
  • “If we’re pledging allegiance to the world, to the prince of the power of the air… we’ve already said that the world is Satan’s realm and we’re not part of that anymore.” (91:57)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 02:03 | Defining the problem: America’s broken systems | | 03:05 | Matt’s early experiences with ‘the world’ in church | | 08:41 | Greek definitions and theological breakdown of ‘world’ | | 14:55 | 1 John 2:15-17, “Love not the world” | | 15:18 | Joshua 6-7 and the “cursed thing” story | | 30:05 | Parable of the sower and worldly cares | | 36:12 | Money, stewardship, and generational poverty | | 39:15 | Church during COVID and loving worldly comforts | | 41:00 | Matt’s corporate sales trial by fire | | 47:21 | Eternal perspective: Jesus’ warnings | | 53:55 | 1 Corinthians 7:31—using but not abusing the world | | 55:26 | Romans 12:1-2—Transformation vs. Conformity | | 58:00 | Psalm 1 & Scriptural meditation | | 63:48 | 1 Corinthians 2:11-14—Spirit of the world | | 66:55 | 2 Corinthians 4:1-4—Blinded minds, God of this world | | 71:24 | 1 Samuel 8: Israelites reject God, demand a king | | 81:34 | Luke 4: Temptation of Jesus, Satan offers the world | | 89:53 | 1 John 5:4—Our faith overcomes the world | | 91:57 | James 3:13–4:4—Earthly vs. godly wisdom |

Final Takeaways

• “The world,” biblically, refers not just to material things or secular entertainment, but to entire worldly systems and spiritual forces aligned against God.
• Christians are called to be separate—not to reform the world’s systems, but to live as citizens of an eternal kingdom, with open hands toward material goods and vigilant hearts against spiritual compromise.
• Personal discipline, continual scriptural meditation, and active sanctification (“getting rid of the cursed thing”) are crucial to avoiding worldly entanglement.
• World-friendship = enmity with God. True victory is found in faith, not in reformation of external systems.

For listeners seeking practical spiritual application and deep scriptural insight into one of the most fundamental biblical warnings, this episode provides a comprehensive, often provocative exploration of what it means to live in the world but not be of it.