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Ed Mabry
We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely, absolutely. Oh, yeah, dude, this some Nephilim. It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying what happens.
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David Lee Corbo
To the home of the brave.
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Ed Mabry
Take control. This now when no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and want to wake up to a dead in the grave. By then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day, everybody.
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David Lee Corbo
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is top lobster, the father of disinformation. And today we are continuing the Book of Revelation series with Ed Mabry. Ed, it is wonderful to have you. Which one are we on now? This is 13. 13 episodes. This is awesome you've managed to come back this many times.
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Ed Mabry
Well, I'm still between jobs. I've got nothing else to do with my life, but even if I did, I still. I love hanging out with you guys. This has been. This is fun for me. This is what I. I could do this every day.
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David Lee Corbo
This is turning into everybody's favorite series. I don't know if you're getting the feedback that we're getting, but we have, you know, all the different apps that show us all the communication that's going on and people love this. People are excited every Friday for it. If Sundays are supposed to be when you go to church, we've now successfully added Fridays into the mix. And so real quick, can you just kind of sum up for us where we went the last few episodes and. And where we're going today?
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Ed Mabry
Sure. So a couple things first, I want to respond to what you said before you. I've been getting a lot of feedback, positive feedback as well. A day has not gone by where someone hasn't commented on something like, hey, I heard you guys. Heard you on. On Nephilim Death Squad, you know, diving into your stuff. So really appreciate that. So, yeah, I get those daily. And I also still get crap from the little season people every day too. So that has to.
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Top Lobster
Sorry. Not sorry, man. I was actually working feverishly today on our YouTube. The aesthetics of the YouTube and the aesthetics of the Rumble going all the Way back to episode one. And I scrolled past, like, all of all the videos and on YouTube specifically, I was really happily surprised to see this series doing a thousand views, well over a thousand views on YouTube. Those are, like, legitimate hard views. On Rumble, you're gonna get, like, a mix. But I mean, a lot of people are watching it, so they're interested. They love Ed Mabry. I think they like you more than us, so we got to be careful.
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David Lee Corbo
Understandably so. Understandably so. But it has gotten to that point now where I've been asking Top. I'm like, what are we gonna do when. When Ed finishes this series with us? I mean, it's. It's become. Fridays are. Are a special day now, and. And I know the people are going to be disappointed. So hopefully whatever you're cooking up, we could have something in the future, because I know they're gonna. They're gonna ask for you back.
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Ed Mabry
Yes. I can tell you about a couple of things that are going on that I wouldn't start this month is I'm going to start getting my little shorts short videos out. The, like, the one, one and a half minute deals. I'm just. I'm trying to get a bunch of them banked so I can just put them out like, daily. And so I'm trying to get like, 30 done. I think I'm at halfway there and. Unbelievable. The other thing I'm going to be recording next week by popular request, is a little commentary on Messiah 20:30 that people been asking me about. So I'm going to kind of do that. Hopefully I won't make those people as mad as I've made the little season people, but I. I'm going to give my thoughts on. On that. And at long last, in next month, I will start putting out my Genesis series, which, again, which I get asked about a ton. When are you going to start the Genesis series? I. I've been trying to get all my research done, but I'm just going to start doing it and just kind of. I wanted to have regular cadence, and I'll still try to have a regular cadence. I can't guarantee that, but I'm just going to start putting stuff out because people have really been asking about it, and I don't want to keep people on the hook because I. The Revelation series ended like, you know, three, four months ago, and so I need to get some more stuff out, so.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, you know what's going to end up happening, Ed, is you're going to end up. This is. I can see where this is going, you're going to finish with Genesis and then it's going to be like, well, what about this book? What about that book? And the next thing you know, I mean, the good news is you have material forever and it's good work to be doing. But that's where this is going, Ed, probably.
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Ed Mabry
And by the baked into the Genesis series is going to be the book of Job, because the events of Job happened like right around the time of Abraham. And it's some really interesting stuff there that people, I think people think they know Job. And I'm not trying to disparage anyone because I'm the same way, but I got new perspective on Job and like in that, that kind of wager, so to speak, between God and Satan over Job, it's that I learned some stuff that's just completely like turned my view of that upside down in a good way. And I can't wait to present that as part of the, of the Genesis series.
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Top Lobster
I'm really looking forward to that. And I would also love for you to do, do something on Solomon. The guy, King Solomon. Like, we're, we're having a guest on to deep dive into it, but I think you'd be able to add another perspective to this guy because in my opinion, one of the most interesting people in the Bible. And I love to hear what Ed had to say.
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Ed Mabry
Okay.
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Top Lobster
Has to say about him.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, Sounds good. So, yeah. So let's just do a quick recap of where we are. So we are. We basically finished up our deep dive into the Antichrist last time. Last week we talked about the false prophet in the Mark of the Beast. So just where we are with the Antichrist, like, you know, he's, he'll be during that 70th week of Daniel, that last seven years that we call the Tribulation. You know, the first three and a half years, he's going to be like this messy, messianic figure guy who has all the answers. Biggest world leader ever, like, you know, just really popular. Then, you know, at the midpoint he suffers that head wound. And my thought is that he becomes possessed then by, by Nimrod, who we're going to talk about today quite, quite a bit. And then he, that the last three and a half years is when he just goes nuts and demands to be worshiped. And he sets himself up in the temple and just says that, you know, I am God. Worship me. And then you have the mark of the Beast, which, which is where the false prophet, who is the, the religious adjunct to, to this final empire, basically forcing people to worship him under penalty of death. You have to take the mark of the beast, which is, which is about worshiping the Antichrist. And then once you take the mark of the beast, you're no longer eligible for salvation. We kind of talked about why that is last week, and I believe it's because it's going to. I, I believe one of the things that mark is going to do is change your DNA, possibly to turn you into something less than human, something other than human, which means you can't be saved because Jesus only died for human beings, among other things. So, yeah, and so this episode, we're going to jump a little bit ahead because we were in Basically Revelation chapter 13 with the false prophet and the mark of the beast and, and the Antichrist. So we should be going to like, 14, 15, 16, but we're going to actually jump briefly, temporarily into chapter 17, because chapters 14, 15, and 16, you're getting into the bowls of wrath when God is, you know, God's done, he's had it, and he starts pouring out his final judgment. Because everyone is chosen aside by this point, at the midpoint of the tribulation, everyone is either you're one of three categories. You're either on the Antichrist side, you've taken the mark of the beast, which means you're, you know, you're done, or you're part of the Jewish remnant who has not. Who realizes this guy is not their Messiah and they have to flee. They have to run out into, literally. Jesus says, you know, if you, when you see the abomination of desolation, which is when the Antichrist sets himself up to be worshiped, he says, he says, when you see that in Matthew 24, head for the hills. Don't even pack, you got to go. Because they're going to try to eliminate all the, the Jewish remnant. So you're either that or. And the other possibility is that you're, you're a, a recent believer who does not want to take the mark, who realizes that, you know, this is crap. And you, you're on your own. You, you know, you're going to be basically marked for death. So those are the only three left. And then God pours out his wrath. The reason I'm going to jump to chapter 17 is because chapter 17 is basically the judgment on religion. And I think it chronologically fits better with what we're talking about, because when the Antichrist is worshiped, he ends all other religions. So Revelation chapter 17 is, is. It's amazing. I'm going to read through some of it, but. But I'm going to first give a background on religion and what it is and why it is deserving of judgment. So let you guys jump in. Before I start with that background, I.
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David Lee Corbo
Do have a quick question. I made a promise to somebody in the chat earlier today that I would read a question to you. And my apologies if this derails you, but I did find it interesting. This is from Gold Z Nugget. He says, does the parable about the virgins running out of oil to correlate with Ed's theory about not being watchful and being left behind?
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Ed Mabry
Possibly. So it's that parable. A lot of people relate it to the church, to being watchful, but if you look at it in context, it's really, it's more about Israel. It's more about the Jews. Reason being that the parable briefly states that, you know, there's the bridegroom is coming for the bride and the virgins who, who have the lamps, they're friends of the bride. So they're not the bride. The bride is the church. So now granted, the bride isn't specifically mentioned, but it's implied that, you know, the bridegroom's coming and who is he coming for? He's coming for his bride. So that's really more about, I think it's more about Israel than it is about the church. So I think it's about Israel maybe not being watchful because the oil and the lamps, oil is usually an idiom for the Holy Spirit. So this might be saying that, you know, the Jews may not be watchful for him. That's interesting. That's kind of what my, my interpretation of it. But some people do use it to, to talk about the church. I just, in, in context, it doesn't seem that way because, you know, the church would not be a friend of the bride. The church is intended to be the bride. Now it could be that these are, I mean, again, I think it fits better if they are, are Jewish, but maybe it's people who aren't part of the bride who, for whatever reason, they're, they're believers, but they're not the bride. We talked about before about those who will be taken in the rapture, in the first rapture will be those who are watchful. So, I mean, I suppose it could, you could kind of squint a little bit and, and make that, make them people in the church who aren't watchful. But I don't think it fits okay, thank you.
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David Lee Corbo
I appreciate it.
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Ed Mabry
So again, that's my. Take it. You know, there's other people who believe differently, so I'm not going to be dogmatic about it, but that's just my take on it.
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Top Lobster
Okay, fair enough. I don't, I don't really have any strong feelings about it either way, but I'm ready to jump into chapter 17 here. I got it pulled up.
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Ed Mabry
Okay, so before we do, I want to give the background on religion and the origins of it, of religion and organized religion. And then when I, when I get, when I get through that, I think then we can jump into the actual chapter and verse because a lot of it's going to be covered as part of the back on my background notes that I'm going to get to here. So. Okay, so can we talk about religion a little bit last week with the false prophet, because the false prophet will be the religious leader. So what is religion? The definition of religion is things that human beings do on our own in order to reach what we consider divine. So like I said, if it doesn't have to necessarily be something faith based, let's say if you brush your teeth at seven o' clock every morning, you brush your teeth religiously because that's a work you're doing, an act you're doing to get to the divine on your own without God. To be, to get to what is, let's see, they're too tall.
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Top Lobster
Sorry. Yeah, my computer is. I don't know what just happened there.
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Ed Mabry
So we'll look at. The first religious act in the Bible actually occurs in, in Genesis chapter three with the temptation of Adam and Eve. So you have, you know, God gave him the command, you can eat of all the fruits of the trees in the garden, but not the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat that, you die. So you have the nakash, which, you know, was unfortunately translated serpent. But nakash, the shining one. This is the light bearer, Lucifer, who tempts Eve. And the first thing he asks is a question. He said, you know, are. I'm paraphrasing, of course. Are you. Did God say you can eat from all the trees of the, of the, of the, of the garden? And Eve says, you know, we can eat of all the trees, but we can't eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and we can't touch it or we'll die. That's religion. Why? God never said they couldn't touch it. He just said you can't eat it. So what did Eve Do. Eve added something on top of God's revealed word. And she did it in order to almost say, improve upon what God said and say, you know, God, you said we can't eat it, but if I add we can't touch it either, then we really can't eat it because we can't even touch it. Hey, God, look what I did. I made your rule better.
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David Lee Corbo
Women are so dramatic.
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Ed Mabry
So, yeah, well, that's a whole other subject disagreement. But. So I think the Nakash saw this and he says, wait, oh, she's got religious pride now. I know she. She wants to be like God. So then he says, hey, no, no, no, you. If you, if you eat the fruit, you won't die. You'll be like God. You'll be like the God. You'll be like the Elohim, which is what she was basically saying that she wanted to be. And he saw that. So that was the first religious act. But what we're going to talk about is organized religion. The difference between, you know, religion is individual organized religion. So when you take the additions to God's word or what you put on top of it, or, or what you do in place of it, and you institutionalize it and make a bunch of rules around it, that's organized religion. So the first example of organized religion, I think the biggest example that we're going to, that's going to really resonate with the rest of chapter 17. Happen during Babel with Simaramus. Simaramus, we talked last week. She was the wife and mother of Nimrod. Nimrod married his mom because he's a sick pup. What Simaramus did was she elevated Nimrod to godhood. She was the first high priestess, she was the first mystic. This is what I call them, I call these people mystics, people who claim to have some kind of relationship with the divine, with a God, with God or the gods, they have this special knowledge that no one else has, and they traffic in that. So she elevated Nimrod to godhood. Why? Because, you know, Nimrod was a dictator. He was the, you know, the, the, the. The. The. The king, the forceful leader, the leader, the military leader, as it were. But as we talked about last week, the best way to really control people is to. Is to have them police themselves by. By, you know, doing what they, what you want them to do. Because it's quote, unquote, God's will. I gave the example last week of how I, I tend to speed when I drive, and I do that because, you know, the odds are they're not enough cops to catch me. However, if I was convinced that if I speed, God's going to punish me. Well, I'm not going to speed anymore because I know God's everywhere. So that's. That's the whole thing behind the. The mystics and the high priests, they enforce the rule of the king. Simmerings did that. She elevated Nimrod to godhood. She called him the Sun God. And she had priests, other priests who were, you know, in the. In the court of Nimrod who were also enforcing this among the people. So basically, at some point Nimrod dies. He gets. There's lots of. Lots of myths around how Nimrod died. The most popular is that he was. He was killed in a hunting accident. Some people say that that Sim Ramis has something to do with it. She was trying to off him so she could have more power. There's even a. A myth that Abraham killed him, which is fascinating, but I don't think the timeline works right. Abraham. I don't think Abraham was around during this point because it appears that Nimrod died shortly before the languages were. Languages were confused at Babel point of all this, after Nimrod is. Is killed, shortly after that, Sim becomes pregnant. Well, that's kind of a problem because she should be in mourning for the king, but somebody knocked her up. So how did she get around this? She claimed that this child in her was immaculately conceived by Nimrod's spirit. She said that when Nimrod died, he ascended to the sun and then the sun's rays shined on her pelvis, I guess, and she became impregnated with. With the child Tamu. So this child Tammuz is the reincarnation of Nimrod. Where'd you get this story? Again, something else I think we talked about last week. One thing we talked about last week was the message of God in the stars, that God laid out his plan for redemption in the star, starting with from Virgo, which is. Happens in the. In. In around September, which is the first month of. Of the year in. In the Jewish calendar, all the way to Leo, the line of the tribe of Judah in August. So it talks about. So you have the virgin birth there all the way through to Jesus returning as. As the line of the tribe of Judah. That's. He showed this to Adam. Adam knew this. Adam passed it on to his descendants. And it went on and on. So Semiramis knew this. She knew that there had to be an immaculate conception and she Said, you know what, instead of, you know, being stoned to death for, for like banging somebody. Right after my husband died, I'm just going to say that he impregnated me. And so my, this child is, is immaculate. Immaculately conceived. And people already knew that, you know, the Maserath, the, the gospel and the stars. So after that, and then of course her priests kept it going. So after this, God confuses the languages and because you know, they were building the tower, God says confusion confuse the languages and divided people into 70 at that time, 70 nations. Well, each one of those nations had some of the priests speaking the same language. So they, you know, people went up, went their way and started going around the. Populating the earth based on common languages and, and some of the priests went along with them. And each and all these priests had that same, they brought with them the, the same religion, the, the mother child cult of, of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz. But when they went to different cultures, they just gave them different names, but they, but then you'll see. That's why you'll see around the world all these different mother child cults. I know top. I don't know if I sent you some images. I don't know if you had a chance to get them in email before we came on.
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Top Lobster
Well, I'll check right now. I actually wanted to ask you something. Who did Esau murder?
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David Lee Corbo
That's exactly what I was just about to ask.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, he. Because there's. I think it's in one of the apocrypha's that he's. He's out hunting and he kills. I think it was Nimrod and two of his men. And then he comes back and that's when he does the trade.
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David Lee Corbo
That's when Jacob offers him the red lentil soup in exchange for his, his birthright. Is it?
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, that's. That's one that is. You're right, it's another method. He killed Nimrod. But that again, that doesn't work in the timeline because that would have been many, many years afterward because you have. Because you know, Esau is, is Abraham's grandson. And so I would argue, I don't even think Abraham necessarily. He may have been alive during the time of Babel, but if, if so it's. He would have been pretty young. So if he was. So I, I think Nimrod would have been dead long before that. So again, it's an interesting, colorful legend, but I, I don't think it worked with a timeline.
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Top Lobster
Okay. I Got these. These are the pictures you sent. There's a couple of them. Which one do you want me to.
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Ed Mabry
Show of how you have all over the world the same mother child cult, you have this. These are all versions of Seamoremus and Tamu. And yeah, so if you. So this is just showing that when the mystics went around, you know, when they went to the different nations, they just started working. They. They put forth the same cult. And so you have. I just, I wrote down a few of them. These that, you know, they, that the various names of that Nimrod and Simramus and Tammuz have in other parts of the world. So in Nimrod in other parts of the world, you have Osiris. In Egypt, you have baal, Marduk, Molech, you have Zeus, you have Dagon. Those are all versions of Nimrod, but same story in different cultures. For Semiramis, you have Asheroth, you have Astarte, you have Ishtar, you know, the famous Ishtar gate in Babylon, you have Isis, you have Aphrodite, Hera, Venus, Gaia, Inani, and eventually Mary. We'll get to that in a bit. With Tammuz, he becomes in different cultures, Horus in Egypt, Dionysus, Yule, Cupid, Zora, Raster. And he also takes on some of the names of Nimrod since he's considered the reincarnation. So some of the same names for Nimrod, Tammuz has. So the point is that this same religion, this first original blasphemy, basically spread around the world through the mystics and in the, in the mystics are always at court. We talked about this last week, that they, that they always have these mystics. Again, the mystics are the people who claim to have this connection to the divine. And people cannot get to the gods except through the, the mystics. And to a degree it's true, and to a degree it's also a lot of charlottery because some of them do have connections to the, to the gods, to the fallen angels, to the fallen Elohim. We saw in, in, in. We talked about it last week in Egypt during the time of the, of the Exodus. You know, the, the. The mystics at the court of Pharaoh were able to duplicate the first two plagues that God sent to the Israelites. They. But then they weren't able anymore because they didn't have that much power. But they did it through the supernatural. But a lot of times these guys, these mystics, men and women, they. They just, they have a racket going where they hoard all these secrets, the secrets of the ages and they don't reveal them to anyone else. That's how they stay in power. And we see them to this day obviously with, with the, the mystics who are at court, so to speak with today's world leaders. We, you know, if you're in the conspiracy world, you know exactly who these people are. So if you look at all the empires, they all have them, you know, Babel obviously Egypt, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and then all had the mystics accord and then when Rome transformed because remember the Roman Empire never fell. Empires don't just go away, they're conquered. Rome was never conquered. It went into decline, but it was never conquered. It just transformed from Imperial Senate to a basically do a theocracy. The first Pope was not Peter. That's a myth. Sorry to burst any Catholic bubbles, but there's no proof that Peter was ever a Pope. The first Pope was constant. Constantine was the one who in the 4th century made Christianity legal and he named himself the head of the Church, Pontifex Maximus, which is the title that the Pope uses to this day. Pontifex Maximus. His, his third successor, Theodosius, he made Christianity the official religion of Rome and outlawed all the other religions. And that's when you have, you know where, that's when you really have the origin of Catholicism in the vatic Vatican as we see it today. The problem is that Rome was also, wasn't just all Christians. It was a lot of pagans there. And to pacify the pagans, what they did was they basically merged the two belief systems and they slapped Christian names onto pagan, into, onto the pagan gods and pagan festivals. That's why you have Christmas in the winter. When Jesus was not born in winter, he would have frozen to death in a barn in winter. He was born in late summer. Why, why do we know that? Because there were shepherds in the field with their flocks. You would not have shepherds out in the field in the middle of the winter. They would, it would have killed the sheep. And so, so but Christmas, December 21 is considered the birth of the sun God. So and that's, and that's why that, that we celebrate Christmas in, in winter, in the dead of winter. You also have Easter, which is, they don't even bother renaming that too much. It's just a slight transliteration of Ishtar. Ishtar Stima Ramos. So that, so they basically took all the pagan, pagan gods and festivals and slapped Christian names on them. And one of them, they did that for was Mary. If you look at Mary, they just, they took simaramus astrothy and just slapped Mary's name on her. What do they call Mary? And you can ask any Catholic, this nape will tell you. Mary is called the Queen of Heaven. That was one of the names that Semiramis had for herself. She was called the queen. She called herself the Queen of Heaven. Nimrod was a king. She was a queen.
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David Lee Corbo
Interesting. So you're saying that that Nimrod's wife. Mom. Mom wife had the same title, the Queen of Heaven. I was actually going to ask you about this because it's interesting, right? You have all of this emulation the mother and the child through all these different pagan deities. And then that does come to today, where this conversation is still being had. It's like, what, what place does Mary, what role does Mary play in all of this as far as, you know, birthing the savior of, of mankind. But also then what, what. How should we look at her or should we even do that at all? There's a lot of people, right, you do have this sentiment of the Queen of Heaven. But then there is another one that's like, this is not. It's. I think that's fascinating that, that simmer Simmeranus had the simmer anus. Simmer anus head.
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Ed Mabry
I'm so sorry.
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David Lee Corbo
Had the same, had the same title.
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Ed Mabry
In the Old Testament. I think it's. I should have wrote this down. I think it's in the book of Jeremiah where you, where you had. No, I'm sorry, Ezekiel, where you have people making cakes to the Queen of Heaven. And you know, God is calling. This is an abomination, people. An abomination means you're worshiping false gods. They were making. They were baking cakes to the Queen of Heaven. And there was another.
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David Lee Corbo
Where.
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Ed Mabry
Another area in the, near the temple where women, Jewish women were weeping for Tammuz because, you know, so they were, they were worshiping these false gods. And, and just what God was saying, this is, this is a horrible abomination. So Mary, the actual Mary should be revered because she, you know, she was the woman chosen to be the vessel through which Jesus came into the world. But that's it. She was not sinless. And that's another unfortunate myth that you get from. From Catholicism that she never sinned, that she was immaculately conceived and she never sinned. And that she's co redeemer with Christ. No, that's not who Mary was. I think the actual Mary, who I'm sure is in heaven now because she obviously believed in Jesus. I think that she's. She'd be horrified, or she probably is horrified at what's being done in her name. She was an. She was an excellent woman. And she, you know, she. She wore the Savior. She was a faithful woman, but. But she was still a sinner who had to be saved. She referred to Jesus as her savior, meaning she was not perfect. She knew she wasn't. And she did not remain perpetually a virgin, which is something else you hear about in Catholicism. She didn't. The Bible talks about her other kids that she had. She was a virgin until she gave birth to Jesus. Then she and Joseph had more kids. Two of them wrote books in the Bible. James and Jude were the half brothers of Jesus. So the Bible's good that Jesus had at least three brothers. James, Jude, and Joseph, and at least two sisters. Half sisters.
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Top Lobster
So, Ed, what do we. What do you make of all of the emulation of Mary and that. The emulation that predates her? Like, how do I put this? If we're running into an argument with that guy, I forget his name. The other dude, That's Carson. Billy Carson.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
He's gonna. He'll throw this kind of stuff in your face, and it.
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Ed Mabry
It's.
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Top Lobster
It's kind of stunning. So what, like, how do I. How would you argue against that? What do you say?
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Ed Mabry
Mary was never any. He is talking about Semiramis. Semiramis and Mary are not the same person. They. The person they're calling Mary now, who's there? Who. They're giving all this Queen of Heaven co. Redemptrix stuff. That's not Mary. That's Semiramis. And first of all, Mary is distinct because we talked last time about. It's not these similarities that matter. It's the differences. Because again, as I. I think I mentioned last week, if you were just to talk about our similarities, I could convince you that you and I are the same person, because we have a lot of things in common. We're both male, we're both Americans. You know, we both. You know, we both have kids, we're both married. I could. I could name a ton of similarities, but if someone was looking at the two of us, they wouldn't be convinced we're the same person. Why? Because of the differences. We're different ages, we look different, we have different parents. So it's not the similarities that matter, it's the differences. Mary is different than Semiramis. Cimaramus was not a virgin. She was. Well, we know she's not because she had her son and married her son. She did. Her, her Tammuz did not die for our sins. So there. So they're just the differences that matter. They're not the same person. They did not have the same career. They're, they're. So you just, if you bring up the differences, that's how you defeat a Billy Carson. Because how can you say they're the same person if you have things that contradict each other?
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Top Lobster
Are these things done? So again, maybe I missed this, but they're done purposefully by these mystics because they have read the stars and they're kind of emulating to mislead people or is it to like blaspheme or.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, that's it right top. It's like it's, you know, these mystics, they're communing with spirits and things of that nature. These in the spiritual realm. And correct me if I'm wrong, but they've always known that Jesus was coming. They just didn't know sort of the final finer details. And so I guess it seems that one of the things that, that they were aware of is that it would be an immaculate conception. And so you have a lot of fraudulent attempts at creating this messianic figure. And, and I, I think purposefully to, to sort of cloud, you know, to ask the very questions that we're asking right now, which is why not this deity, why not that dating these are all the same people. Jesus was never real. I, I think it's, it's. They can't create, but they can invert.
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Ed Mabry
Right?
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David Lee Corbo
And so that is the what they go for. They take God's plan and they try to invert it.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, you made a good point, Raven. That the fallen angels, they, they knew a lot, but they didn't know everything. The one thing they didn't know was about the death and resurrection. They didn't even know Jesus was going to die until that was revealed. Until the book of Daniel when Daniel's given his 70 weeks prophecy and it says at, at the end of the 69th week or 483 years after the, the, the decreed restore and rebuild Jerusalem, the Messiah would be cut off. The word is in Hebrews Karak, which means to be executed. They didn't even know that oh he's going to die. Okay. But what they didn't know that he is that he was going to be come back and you know, be resurrected. They didn't know that until it happened. If they did know that, they never would have killed him. So, so Even when you have, like, the Billy Carsons of the world saying, oh, yeah, well, there's all these messianic figures who were born of a virgin and then died. If they try to say they came back to life, they're lying. There isn't any he. I know Carson tries to talk about Mithras came back to life. No, he didn't. No, no, he didn't. That was never part of the Mithratic legends. They. That. No, they added that to the legends after Jesus because, again, they were trying to falsify. They're trying to make their own false messiah. But before. Before Jesus was born, there were none of these figures were died for our sins or were resurrected, including Horus. And Billy Carson says, oh, yeah, Horus died and came back. There is not a single legend about Horus that says that. He. They add to it afterwards to try to justify their agenda. Yeah, Zeitgeist was. Was utter nonsense for that very same reason.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly. You know, this information has been around forever, obviously. And even as a young man, when I came across this sort of stuff, I watched the. The documentaries. I guess I wasn't raised in a Christian household. I wasn't religious. I didn't have an A. I wasn't attempting to. To strengthen my relationship with God in any sort of meaningful way or at least pointing my comp. God. But I never dismissed Jesus Christ in the Bible. I just, you know, was still kind of finding my way. And even when I saw that, there's incredibly compelling information. But the idea that you would see this one thing and then lock on to it as a definitive truth is, you know, a little bit ridiculous. You know, it's like we talked about in a previous episode, if. If there truly is a time during the winter solstice where the sun rests on the celestial crux and for three days and then starts to elevate in its position, and the days get longer after that, then to me, that is literally the. The story of Jesus Christ in the stars.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, I would see that more as. As what you just said than the idea that, you know, well, this is a. A dying and rising sun. Because if that's the case, then Jesus has to die every year because the sun God, Soul Invictus, which is, again, was another nimrod, does that every year. Jesus doesn't die every year. He died once.
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David Lee Corbo
By the way, we're seeing the. The. The comeback of that soul Invictus. This is a sentiment that I see actually, you know, growing in popularity on Twitter. And then people are, you know, sort of making it part of their identity. It's weird because we're. We're in very many ways, we're spiritually lost in the West. But I do see the resurrection of these, like, old pagan gods lately in a bunch of different ways that it's kind of disturbing where people are, you know, suddenly displaying veneration for, like, I've been going off about Zeus for a while, but there's definitely this Roman pantheon, Greek Pantheon. You know, there's. There's unironic. What would you call them? The Vik. Norse mythology. Unironic. It's very strange. I don't know what to.
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Ed Mabry
I mean, there's. There was a guy who. He. Who I liked a lot. I admired him. He died, I think, right before COVID or maybe during that time by the name of Russ Disstar. He was a man who was. He was an exorcist. He was. He was really into demonology and casting demons out. But one thing he already talked about, he would talk to these demons and they would, you know, they would, you know, they would say things to him. They would say, no, the old gods are coming back. They would tell him that all the time that the old gods are coming back. And I think that that's what's going to happen. We talked about several episodes ago when we were talking about the. The six seals in Revelation, chapter six, and the sixth seal, when it opened, the sixth deal is open. That's when all the. The. The fallen angels are cast out of the heavens and. And released from under the earth, and they are. They're forced to materialize. And I think that that's what they're going to be saying. Oh, yeah, we're. We're the old gods. We're. We're back. We were. We've been here for, you know, for the entire history of the world, and now we're back. So I think that's part of it. So. But getting back to what you said before about, you know, Zeitgeist and movies like that, and even Billy Carson's of the World and the folks who are. What they do is they count on two things. They count on one that we just don't have time to do deep research. Most of us. Most of us don't. I get that. And so they give us research that's faulty that most people don't have time to dig into, and they use a very authoritative tone. If you listen to Billy Carson, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He sounds very confident, and he says, you know I'm the foremost expert in those ancient languages, which he's not. He doesn't even. He's already shown through his. That he doesn't even know basic Hebrew. But if you say, you know, if you. What's it called? Fake it till you make it. If you just act like if you speak with authority. Yes, I know this, and this is what it really means. And the Emerald Tablets of Toth said that even though no one's ever seen these Emerald Tablets, they don't exist. That one guy claimed he saw them, wrote them down, wrote down what he said he saw, but no one's ever produced it. But if, but if someone says, I'm an expert in this, I'm the world's foremost expert in what he calls himself. And here's what the Emerald Tablets say. The Emerald Tablets talk about Jesus. Where the emerald tablets. Never mind that. Didn't pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, so.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly. Yeah, I'm an expert in. The guy that claimed to be an expert in the tablets.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it sounds like Mormonism, right? Isn't that what he did?
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Ed Mabry
He.
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Top Lobster
He had like those gold.
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Ed Mabry
Who sounds like an Italian gangster, but apparently the Angel Moroni gave these gold tablets, these gold tablets to get Joseph Smith. Where are the gold tablets? Oh, I lost them. I. I buried them. I don't know, I forgot where I buried them, but. But trust me, they were really there. And. Okay, sure, yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And then after that, what do we get? We get the, the. What were the scrolls? The Dead Sea Scrolls. And that is like a huge vindication. You know what I mean? So you're talking about all these different tablets that may or may not have existed, but we found the Dead Sea Scrolls and they prove that what we've been reading from the entire time is. It lines up.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna just keep moving, but thank you. This, this is a great conversation. So basically, like I was saying, we. All these empires from all the way up to Rome, which I guess where I left off, that Rome is still around in this day. The Catholic Church ruled the world for almost, almost a thousand years from like, you know, around 700 AD to 1700 ish, when we have the, the Reformation thereabouts. But their influence never went away because the bankers, the, the bankers for the, for the Catholic Church were the Medicis and the Orsinis. And they. And of course we know the bankers run the world through, through their finances. And when they started going underground, they financed the Rothschilds, who, Who financed The Rockefellers and the Soroses and all these, all the World Economic Forum and Trilateral Commission and the CFR and all the, all the people who really run the world today were financed by them. And, and if you trace it all the way back, it gets back to the Vatican. I get asked all the time, who do I think is at the top of the pyramid of, you know, because the Rothschild people, above the Rothschilds, I think that are Medicis and Orsinis. Who's at the top? Is it the Illuminati, it's the Club of Rome, so forth. And so when I say I don't know exactly, I'm guessing that the Vatican is close to the top and at the very top are spiritual entities.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes. That's what people don't seem to understand. They're all looking for, like, a man or a group or, you know, an ethnicity or whatever the hell the case is. And it's like you're joking, you're kidding yourself if you think the buck stops at flesh and bone. This is, this is spiritual in nature. And so, and to your point about which one is at the top, before you get to the spiritual realm, I would say it's an amalgamation of all of these four mentioned, you know, groups.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, Would not surprise me at all. So, so that's where we have the elites. And so these elites are the ones are again, the spiritual, I would say spiritual children of Simaramus and her priesthood of mystics. Because look at our current, our current world today. Who really runs it? It doesn't matter who the president or prime minister is. They come and go. Like our president, you know, Trump doesn't have that much power. Biden, all these guys, Obama, Clinton's presidents come and go. They're only around for eight years maximum. But then you have these other people who have been around forever. I mean, you look like, like a Henry Kissinger who finally died, I think not too long ago. But that guy has, has been in the corridors of power in Washington since before I was born, decades. And no one's ever elected him to anything yet. This guy was always there, always in power, always having big influence. You know, Zigna Brzezinski, you know, you name him, you know, again, the cfr, Trilateral Commission, Valerie Jarrett, who people say was Obama's handler, which I find very funny. But you have all these people who are, who are in these think tanks and these political. Rahm Emanuel. I just heard last week that if Harris is elected, then Rahm Emanuel is going to probably be in her Cabinet, like he was with Obama. This guy, he, he's just a hanger on, but they never go away. So these are the people who are really in power and they, they are mystics because they do the same things that mystics do. They, they hoard power and knowledge. They are the holders of the secrets of the ages. You know, the Freemasons, the, the, the Knights Templar, all these are, are mystics. They hold these secrets and that's what keeps them in power. They're in power because they know things that the rest of us don't know and they have that connection to the supernatural. So these are the mystics. And so the whole, the whole point of this, of giving us background, is that this is what's going to finally be judged. So those of us who are conspiracy theorists who always wonder, when are these people finally going to get theirs? When are they going to finally get their comeuppance? This is when revelation, chapter 17 is when the final judgment on these people happens. And that's where we get to the Scarlet Woman. And by the way, that's interesting that the whole Scarlet Woman thing, that's, that's something you probably heard about the conspiracy world. Aleister Crowley was, you know, that weirdo always had what he called scarlet women at, you know, hanging around him because they were, they embraced this whole thing. And you even had the famous story of Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard going out and do the Babel, doing the Babylon working so that they could try to bring birth this Scarlet woman. They're taking a little too literally. This isn't literal.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. They're looking to birth the, the moon child. And a lot of people speculate as to now because of the time frame. Is this moon child Donald Trump? Is it Elon Musk? Is there multiple moon children? Yeah, a lot of interesting stuff surrounding that.
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Ed Mabry
All right, so I'm going to start, I'm going to read the first, I'll read what you have on, on screen top. I'm going to read the first six verses of this. Okay. And you can see on the screen that there came to one of the seven angels with hatches, the seven vials or bowls of wrath, which we'll start talking about in a couple weeks. And talk with me saying, come here and I will show you the kingdom, the judgment of the great, that sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication and the happiness of the earth have become drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the Wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet colored beast full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colored and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her head, hand full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. And upon her forehead was a name written mystery. Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration, right where I wondered greatly.
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David Lee Corbo
Man, this is really like, has to be unpacked. Full of names of blasphemy.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, I got my notes. I'm gonna try to unpack everything. If I missed something, you know, let me know. Okay, so first of all, this, what the apostle Son John sees here is a vision. He's in the Spirit. So this is not literal. This is a vision. This is an allegory. And remember, as I talked about in the Little Season video, whenever there is allegory, God is not the author of confusion. He is either explained immediately, which it is in this chapter, because an angel basically tells Daniel, excuse me, tells John, what all these things mean, or it's interpreted elsewhere in the Bible. So God does not just give, like symbols and say, okay, it's up to you guys to figure it out. And that's why every time I get some of these comments from the Little Season people, their basic defense is, well, you know, you're taking the Bible literally. This is an allegory. You do not have carte blanche to decide what's allegory based on whether or not it fits your favorite pet theory. That's not how it works. You have. There are rules, and God does not give allegory without interpreting it. And if it's uninterpreted, then it's not allegory from God. So anyway, let's get off my soapbox because, you know, I just want the Little Season people to give you another. Give them another reason to write in angry stuff in the comments. So this is a vision. John is taking away the spirit to the wilderness. What's, what's important about the wilderness? Well, keep in mind that wilderness in this sense does not mean what we think of wilderness. We think of it like, you know, as a forest or some kind of, you know, national park sort of thing. No, the wilderness in this sense is the desert. This is what the wilderness is called in the Bible. Why is that important? Because the wilderness is where sin goes. If you know the story of the scapegoat, basically, briefly, what would happen. The high priest, you know, back during the time of the law, would put the sins of Israel symbolically onto a goat and send that goat out into the wilderness to Azazel. And you know the name Azazel, he was one of the angels, one of the fallen Elohim who came down and committed sex, had sex with women and, and spawn Nephilim.
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David Lee Corbo
And you said they.
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Top Lobster
Sorry, go ahead. You know, Zazel is the one that brought a technology, weaponry, things like that.
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Ed Mabry
Shields.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, right. But you said that they put the sins on the. What. What priest class is this? That puts the sins on the, on the goats and sends them. What. What belief system was this?
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Ed Mabry
This was. This is the Leviticus. This is. The high priest of Israel would do this.
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David Lee Corbo
High priest of Israel. Interesting, because it's just a year on.
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Ed Mabry
The day of atonement.
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David Lee Corbo
Right, okay, so this is to. To Emily's point right here. It's a great catch, Emily. This is actually something that's still practice in New York City. Top told this to me and I wasn't aware of it, and then I saw the videos and they actually, what they'll do is the Hasidic Jews in New York will transfer their sins to a chicken and then they will basically brutalize the chicken and, and kill it in the streets. And the streets will actually be filled with chicken blood and, and carcasses, which is wild as far as, you know, the Caparrat. And so when you said that, I was like, oh, that's fascinating. Another people. But it's the high priest of Israel doing the same thing. They are transferring the sins to the chicken and then sacrificing it. I wonder.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it means atonement. That's what, that's what the word means from the Semitic meaning of it. Ok, interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
Fascinating.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Oh, it's. It's gross.
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David Lee Corbo
Ed.
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Top Lobster
They, they're like the, the blood in the streets in New York is just like flowing and they do whatever they want. They shut down the whole thing. They swing the chicken over their head. It's wild. And then they sell it to you to eat it, the goyum, which is crazy. After they put their sins on it. Yeah, they, they put their sins on it and then they put it in the market for you to eat.
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Ed Mabry
Well, that, that kind of harkens back to the. The synagogue of Satan episode we had before. So anyway, people go Back to that. But that's interesting. I, I didn't know that ritual was happening in, in, in, in New York.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay, so please continue. They. They send it in to sacrifice to ael.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, they send it out to, to. Yeah, to a. However you want to pronounce it. And so the, the point of, of bringing it up is that this, this vision is happening in the realm of sin. Because that's Azazel. Azazel, he was imprisoned out there. That's. He was, he was, he was designated to be in the desert. Which is interesting because there is a, a school of thought that say that, that Azazel was Satan, that they're the same. I don't know about that. But what's interesting is that, you know, remember when Jesus was, was tempted, where did he go? He went to the wilderness. That's where he encountered Satan. So. Right.
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David Lee Corbo
And if these things have a locality. Right. That they're, they're. Because they're not omnipresent. Right. So they only have specific areas that they're relevant to. It's fascinating. I wonder if it was the same thing.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, I, I think it's interesting. So, so the point is that this woman, this vision, he sees the woman, she is obviously evil because she's out in the wilderness, which is where, which is again traditionally where thought sin, great sin resides. So that's that. Now it calls her a harlot. Harlot is a prostitute. What does a prostitute do? Well, none of us know that because we're all safe sanctifies, filled with the Holy Ghost. But other people know that prostitute is someone basically who sells sexual intimacy for, for stuff, for sells real gang. Yeah. So that's a prostitute. But this is a vision. So we're. So she's not an actual prostitute per se. What she's doing, she's a spiritual, she represents spiritual prostitution. What does that mean? That means giving your, selling your spiritual intimacy for stuff for some type of gain. And that's what worship is. Worship is an exchange of physical spiritual value. When you're worshiping something, you are giving it your spiritual value because you, you're going to get something in return. If you worship God, you're going to get. Yeah, no kidding. I saw the thing. Yeah. Vegas is, you know, that's very interesting because a lot of deserts are, are places where a lot of like bad stuff happened. Not just Vegas, but you look at, you know, where things like Mecca are and so yeah, you could really get into it if you let me tell you.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I, I lived in In New Jersey for a long time. I lived for. For a period of like three or four years up in North Jersey in the woods on the mountain. And the woods have a certain spookiness at night. You know, you would imagine it's very dark and there's just something about it, but I never had a change of scenery. It's just like the forest is spooky at night. Being out alone in the forest at night is, you know, it's. It's chilling. But I will admit that there is a totally different energy. When I lived in Las Vegas for a period, the desert, like, sometimes I would be in areas where you'd be close enough to the desert to, like, walk up to it, because it was really abrupt. In some places, like Vegas would end, desert would begin. And. And the. The energy that you get from the desert is very different, and it is alarming. It's like, you know, in my mind, it was always like, there are creatures in the forest. You know, whether it's like a, you know, something goofy, it's a werewolf or something. The devil lives in the desert is the feeling that I would get. There's demons in the desert.
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Top Lobster
That guy, Stephen King, just nails it. The best book he's ever written, the Dark Tower. The first. The first sentence it says, the man in black walked through the. Through the desert and the gunslinger followed. And that's like, I'm hooked for the next seven books. But that's like what it is, just traveling through this desert to confront the devil himself. Very interesting stuff.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah. And you guys know I live. I live in California. I grew up in Southern California. And you know, the. It's most. It is mostly desert. I mean, there's a few areas, you know, LA is. Is basically. Is almost a desert. You just go a little bit inland. But you look at places like Joshua Tree, which is like a very famous national park. A lot of crazy stuff happens out there. I mean, there's some serious, like, demonic, like, rituals and festivals that happen out in Joshua Tree, Coachella, which is where they have this big musical festival now. When I was a kid growing up, you know, my family's from the South. They. We would go fishing all the time. And there was like a place out there called the Salton Sea. It's like, it was just huge. Just like. Like, I think the biggest salt inland, saltwater body of. Second biggest nexus to the Great Salt Lake in Utah. We would go fishing there and we would drive through Coachella. When I was a kid, Coachella was a place you stopped to get gas on your way to the Salton Sea. It was. It's bleak. And when I heard that there's this huge music concert out there, I'm like, why in the world with anyone decide. Why would kids want to go to Coachella of all places? Coachella was known for having gas stations and. And dates, like, you know, the fruit. That's all people are known for. And now it's this crazy festival, which, again, gets pretty ritualistic.
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Top Lobster
But it's all about localities, Right. It's like, that's where these things are, and that's why you go there.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
It's interesting that that space is so desolate, too, and that nothing wants to grow there, but yet there does seem to be this presence of this demonic energy. Top and I, we are fans of a show, the Confessionals, with Tony Merkel. I highly recommend everybody check it out. But he's done episodes with people who have been parts of these, you know, parties out in Joshua Tree that turn into something utterly bizarre. And they have what, you know, I'm sure those in the medical industry would describe as. As auditory and visual hallucinations. But they. These people come away saying that they saw, you know, people levitating, portals, opening up, all kinds of crazy things. So, yeah, that. The desert, I just find it's fascinating because there's plenty of stories coming out of those areas, and yet nothing grows. I don't know. It's just a weird contrast.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, you have. Yeah, the. The artist, Kesha claimed, you know, she saw UFOs when she was out there.
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David Lee Corbo
A lot of that in the desert, there's people.
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Top Lobster
They said that they've seen vampires out there. There's like a. In Joshua Tree. I mean, it's. It's wild. It's wild out there, dude.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, it's. It's great sauce. There's your desert. So that's where he sees the. The. The prostitute, the harlot. And so what does she represent? She basically represents false religion. That's what it is. When you give yourself over to, you know, to worship these. These things, you give your spiritual. Spiritual energy over to another God. So this woman seems to represent false religion. She. I think she is Semiramis. I think that's exactly who this woman is. And it says. So here's what else it says. It says that now the kings of the Earth committed fornication with her. What does that mean? Well, first, let's define fornication, because if you talk to, I think, 99.9 of people, they will have the wrong definition of fornication. If you ask them. What's fornication? Well, fornication is sex before marriage. No, it's not. Because, number one, there's no. There's technically no such thing as sex before marriage. Sex seals the marriage covenant. Whoa. Yeah. So here's the horrifying thought. The first person you had sex with, you married them in the eyes of God because you sealed a covenant. So I'll give people a moment to deal with the horror of what that might be. But you committed. You. You married them. And if, unless you intentionally broke the marriage covenant, the next person you had sex with, you were committing adultery. So biblically speaking, there are only two types of physical sex. Marriage for adultery. Fornication is not sex before marriage. So what is fornication? You look it up in the Bible, go to Bible Gateway, and just put in fornication. Fornication is always sexual intercourse for the purpose of spirituality. Well, they're always these. You know, when you have any of these satanic rituals, any of these demonic rituals, they involve, at least, I know, very upsetting one of one of two things or both. There's either bloodshed or there's sex in all of these rituals. Bloodshed and sex. Why? Because blood and sex are about life. The life of the body is. The life is in the blood. We read that in Leviticus. So something about bloodshed releases life energy, which these demonic energies need in order to release power or to manifest. And, of course, sex life, it brings life. Because, you know, when I have sex, you. You can have a child, you can bring in new life into the world. So that's what fornication is. Fornication. And when you talk. When God accuses the Israelites of fornication, he's not accusing him of. Of just sex. He's. He's confusing him of basically idol worship, either spiritually and, Or. And. Or being a part of these sexual rituals. Because all of these demonic entities, all of these false gods, had sexual rights. They had temple prostitutes who were there for the whole purpose of having sex with people as part of the worship of these false gods. So that is what fornication is. Wow.
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Top Lobster
And before we get off the subject, me and David were talking about this a while, maybe a couple of days ago. We've spoken to a couple of people who have had demonic encounters or, like, weird situations happen, happening to them spiritually. And it always seems to come right after a divorce.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes.
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Top Lobster
And we were saying, like, so they're breaking. When you get divorced, you're not just, like, leaving Your wife, but you're breaking a covenant, a promise that you made in front of God. I mean, I don't know if people mean to do this, but it's kind of what you do when you go to a church and you do this thing. And then when they do that, they're open to all kinds of spiritual attacks. Some people have like, you know, silent passengers with them to this day, after this has happened. What do you, what do you think about that?
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David Lee Corbo
And just to expand on that, Ed, before you answer, this is something that it's not necessarily always after, but it is. They'll have these encounters and nightmares and sleep paralysis events and things of that nature before, during, after all surrounding the event of their divorce. And I've even seen people say things like, oh, I had an entity in my life and it would say things to me in dreams and such. And one of them I read was like, oh, they actually told me that I was going to end up getting a divorce. And I'm like, these things, I think that they would have a vested interest in corrupting a promise that you've made to another person in front of God. And so I wonder. Yeah, your thoughts on that?
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Ed Mabry
That's interesting. I, I hadn't heard that. But I mean, I can't say I'm shocked by it. I mean, fortunately I haven't divorced yet. My wife's still putting up with me. Hopefully she continues to do so. But yeah, you're right, you're breaking God. Marriage is sacred to God. Not just because of the sex part of it or the union part of it. Remember marriage? And the apostle Paul talks about this in, in, I think in Ephesians, marriage is a model of Christ in the church. That's why it's sacred. When he, when, when Paul does his famous chapter five, I believe in Ephesians, where he gives every man's favorite verse. Wives, submit to your husbands and according. But, but he also says, you know, husbands love your wife as Christ loved the church. And die for it. And die for it. And he says, I'm telling you a mystery of Mysterion, which I think we're gonna actually talk about when we talk about the mystery of Babylon. He says, this is a great mystery. But what I'm, I'm speaking of Christ and the church. Marriage is a model of Christ's relationship with the church. And that is the most sacred thing to God. So it wouldn't. Doesn't surprise me that he would. That the breaking of that covenant, especially if it's not done the right Way the Pharisees remember, they asked Jesus, you know, are you allowed to divorce? And Jesus said, you're not supposed to. He said, because of your hard heartedness, Moses permitted someone to have a certificate of divorce. But it wasn't, it was never God's plan that you would ever break that covenant. And the only legitimate way to break it is, is for adultery because that means that they've, that the covenant's been broken. So you can divorce someone who commits adultery against you because basically they've broken the government covenant and you're just saying, okay, you've done, you've done it, so we're splitting up. But that's not the way it's supposed to be you technically, you know, you could, you can forgive them and, and, and take them back. And if you look at marriage, again, the reason that a woman is supposed to be a virgin, why her virginity is so important. Both, the virginity of both man and woman is important because again, the first person you have sex with, you've married them. And it's a blood covenant. As you know, not to get too graphic, but the first time a woman has sex, they, you break the hymen that, that little membrane and causes blood. It's a blood covenant. That's what marriage is supposed to be. When you have sex for the first time with a woman who's never had, had sex, you, you, you enter into a blood covenant. That's powerful.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, man, there's. I've had some words for these guys, these in, in the red pill community where, you know, they do a show, Fresh and Fit and yeah, they're talking about. You've seen him? Yeah, I've been in some spaces talking with this guy, but it's like, he's like, oh, you have to have sex with at least 50 women before you settle down. Well, it's like, man, shut up. What if you told my son that I'd punch you in the teeth. Because it's, it's a, it's a ritual. I, I didn't, I didn't understand to this extent. But now, like, you've taken my. Wow, you like, really transported my brain to another place on what sex is. But I've always suspected that this is like, this is some kind of a ritual. It's sacred. You don't just play around with this thing. You're playing with emotions, you're playing with possible future life. It's so much going on and we're just throwing it around there.
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Ed Mabry
Like, yeah, we have this idea that, you know, that I know I know. Yeah, I know. The fresh and fit. I've. I've watched a few of those because I just. I. I find them morbidly entertaining.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, they were. They're retarded, but, like, totally.
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Ed Mabry
But it's like, it's guilty. I don't even watch anymore. I did watch it for a while, but I'm like, you know what? This isn't. I shouldn't be watching this anymore. This is not healthy. But it was a guilty pleasure for a while. I'm not. I'm not gonna lie. And if there's. There's like, quite a few of those shows where they just have like a bunch of, like, I guess only fans, models who, who sit there in the studio and just get berated by the red pill men, it's. It's interesting. And if you have.
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Top Lobster
Listen, it's entertaining.
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Ed Mabry
That redhead chick, I forget her name, she's a tall redhead who. She kind of almost does a similar thing, but she does it from like, oh, Pearl.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Anyway, yeah, yeah, listen, that's all that's entertaining. I. I do enjoy it to a certain level as well, but they are reaching out of their. Their little zone there where they're doing this for clicks and likes and attention and stuff. Like, listen, if you want to do that. And then they're gonna go and philander with these hoe woman after the show, whatever. When you start talking to children and young men. I got a problem with that.
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David Lee Corbo
Shouldn't be.
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Top Lobster
I. I enjoy Andrew Tate. I think he's hilarious. If he ever spoke to my kid, I'd shoot him. And now this is straight up, is.
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David Lee Corbo
That we've been in this. We talk about it a lot on the show. This idea of, like, suppressing certain things. When you suppress speech, you have a disproportionate reaction when you finally allow that speech to be engaged in. In, you know, the public square. But when it comes to suppressing masculinity, calling it toxic, really kind of pressing men down and elevating women and creating this disproportionate balance, what ends up happening is that you. You allow for the rise of these characters who are. They're the overreaction. You know, instead of saying, instead of having a character that, that, you know, comes to the surface and says, find a woman you love, take her as your wife, have children, raise a family. You know, make sure that you and your family are close to God instead. That. That's the. That's the healthy place to be. But we've gone beyond that now. It's have 50 wives before. I mean, have 50 sleep with 50 women before you ever decide to make sure that, you know, she's xy. Like, there's, there's, there's this huge whiplash effect, or not whiplash effect, but just this overreaction. It's like a band that's been stretched and it's gone far in the other direction. And I think it's because you suppress the idea of masculinity and such that you give rise to characters like this. They're. They're kind of a.
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Ed Mabry
One thing. I, I did an episode on this, actually, when I did the Spirit of Jezebel with toxic masculinity. And I sit there blatantly. There is no such thing as toxic masculinity because masculinity is not toxic. Masculinity is positive. Masculinity protects, it provides, it nurtures. That's what masculinity is. Now there are, now there are some males who behave in a toxic manner, who abuse women, who, you know, do horrible things to women and kids. But they're, they're, they're not masculine. That's not, you know, berating a woman is not masculine. Abusing a woman is not masculine. You know, having a promiscuous sex with a bunch of women just to have a notch on your bedpost. There's nothing masculine about that. That's toxic, but it's not masculine.
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Top Lobster
It's actually feminine.
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Ed Mabry
Femininity is positive.
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Top Lobster
It's, well, that the toxic masculine. Toxic masculinity is actually feminine. When you're talking about these things, they're like, there's a level of insecurity. If you have sex with 50 women, there's a level of insecurity where you're berating other women. This is what women do to each other. As a man, you shouldn't be doing these things. So it's, it, it is toxic. If you, if you kind of like add the estrogen to it. If you're espousing masculinity with what it's supposed to be, and everybody knows what it's supposed to be. You feel it in your gut. It's fine.
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Ed Mabry
Every, Every little boy. When you're. What does a little boy. He wants to be a fireman, a soldier. That's what I want. I want to be a fireman when I was growing up. Why? Because you save people. You didn't have to teach me to want to be masculine and want to rescue people and protect people. That's just inherent with who we Are. And just like girls, what do they do? They little girls play with. They want to be pretty, they want to play with. With baby dolls, they want to be motherly and nurturing. That's who they are. But our, but our current society is telling them, telling women, don't be that. Don't be what you naturally want to be. Be something different. And the thing. And what you touch on top. Is that what they're telling them? Not just don't be feminine. They're telling them to be, to. To. To embody all the things that they say they hate about men. What? They tell women to be promiscuous, to be, you know, to be missed, to be the girl boss, to be rude and not care about anyone but yourself. They basically tell women to embody all the things that they say are toxic about masculinity.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ed Mabry
So what message is that telling them? They tell women, don't be feminine. Don't be who you are. Instead, be what you hate. Turn yourself into a hard drinking, hard banging, you know, girl boss, alpha female who cares about no one but herself and only thinks about her job and how many men she can go to bed with. That liberates you.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ed Mabry
You're poisoning them and telling them, be what you hate. And then you wonder why women are on so many prescription drugs these days.
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David Lee Corbo
That's it, right? Don't you want to be. Don't you want to be Chelsea Handler? Don't you want to go on skis with your tits out and drink wine at 10 o' clock in the morning and eat Xanax and have no children and no responsibilities and no legacy and no one to care for you when you get terribly old and frail and, you know, the media no longer cares about you, no one's willing to parade you out on their show anymore and you're totally alone. Don't you want that?
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Top Lobster
It's constantly like being taken. The woman are.
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Ed Mabry
Be.
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Top Lobster
The woman of our generation are being taken to the desert and they're shown, I can give you all the things of this world. And they all say yes.
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Ed Mabry
Right, exactly. And even now I'll end up with this. And we'll, you know, get back to the, to the, to the study. What you talked before about, you know, these guys, fresh and fit, whoever, telling men to go out and have 50 women before they get married. Why? I guess. I guess it's why you have some more, you know, sexual knowledge. But if you're marrying a virgin or a woman with a low body count, which I always find funny, I The whole body count thing makes you sound like a serial killer. How many bodies do you have? Whenever I see. Oh, I've had 30 bodies, like. So you've killed 30 people? That's.
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Top Lobster
No, no, just their babies, not the people.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, well, there's that. But if you're both virgins going into it, you are going to learn and grow together, and you're going to be. You're going. You don't need to have. Bring in the experience you've had with all these other women. Because if. I mean, what if your wife says, where'd you learn that? Oh, I learned it from, you know, this. This time I went to Vegas and hooked up with this girl at the. At the casino. How do you think it's gonna make your wife feel? Oh, that's great, honey. I'm so glad you learned this from some other hoe. No, you wouldn't. You want your person to be just with you and to just know you and to understand what you like and you learn together anyway. That's just. And again, I'm not on a high horse. I'm going to be blunt. I was not a virgin when I got married, and. But I'm. I'm, you know, I'm only with my wife now. She's the only one I'm ever going to be with. And it's. It's a good thing. And I don't. And I'm glad I was not even more promiscuous because I think every time you do do that, there's a little piece of yourself that you're leaving with someone. So that's.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, that's what the. The science says now, right? Is that women retain the genetic. Some sort of genetic tissue or. I don't know what it is. Some sort of DNA from every, you know, partner that she's had. So. And, and what I'll say really quickly is it's. It's the hindsight that does that, right? And it's like once you get to a place where you're married and you realize how beautiful this situation is, then you look back and you're like, damn, man, wish I didn't. Wish there was a way to go back to my younger self and be like, you idiot.
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Top Lobster
But, yeah, but there's no way. There's no way to. Like, nobody made a convincing argument back then. It was just like, don't do it. Don't do this. And it's like, well, why? And they're like, well, just don't. You know, it's like. But like, I don't know. I'm thinking about what I want for my kids and I want that for them. So like, thank you, Ed. Hopefully I could impart this knowledge upon them.
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Ed Mabry
If somebody had explained this to me, maybe I wouldn't have been so anxious to like, you know, have sex in high school and whatever because I, they, I grew up in church and there they only had one message for, for young men, don't have sex. That was it didn't give you the why didn't explain what it means to God. It's just don't do it. That's all they tell you is just don't have sex, don't fornicate. Which they again got the.
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Top Lobster
There's faith but no reason, huh?
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Ed Mabry
Or no good reason other than, you know, God doesn't like it. I guess. Give me a practical reason. A practical reason is that you know you how sacred marriage is to God and what it's going to do to you. And I think it harms men, but it really harms women. I think that women are harmed way more. One thing I will say that those fresh and fits and some of those others do one thing they do say that's true, that is that women control sex, men control relationships, women control access to sex for a good reason because I mean women have more to lose. You know, you have, you know, being pregnant or whatever, but men control the marriage you have, you know, we control access to the relationship. So that's, that's true. And I think that it's so messed up we could, we could spend a whole nother hour talking just about that. But oh, let's get back to, to the, to another happy subject subject, the other, the, the scarlet woman. So, so fornication is again sex as a part of a spiritual ritual. Physically, spiritually. I think it's pretty clear that spiritual fornication, which is what God accused Israel of all the time in the Old Testament was again giving your spiritual intimacy to, to another entry. So it's to a fallen entity. So when it says the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, that means that they, the kings of the earth, the leaders, these are the human leaders, gave themselves over to these false, this false religion for stuff. We talked about it early on that they would always have mystics at court with the rulers and the rulers would, you know, allow themselves to have again spiritually fornicate with this with false religion in order to maintain their power and their riches. So and it says here, not only did they do they fornicate, it Says here that they were drunk off the fornication. So that means they were reveling in it. They, they loved it. So, so the kings of the earth became drunk with her through her fornication. And, and then we talk. Then we have the beast. She's writing. I'm not going to go into detail because he talked about this last week that, you know, the beast represents, you know, the, the, the, the seven beast with seven heads represents the seven world empires. And, and I gave my theory on Nimrod and all that, so I'm going to skip that part. But she, but notice that she's riding the beast. So false religion is riding it in, in, in the same way you ride a horse. Yes, the horse is powerful, but you're in control of it. So she's riding this beast, she's controlling it. False religion is again going back to what I, I said previously. That's why I gave this background. These, these mystics have always been tacitly in control of the governments. They're always there. And so she's, she's riding the beast in that sense. And she had, she was. The beast was covered with names of blasphemy. What does that mean? What, what is blasphemy? Blasphemy is basically, it's false worship. But the technical definition of blasphemy is basically giving other entities credit for what God does. Remember when Jesus said that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the one unforgivable sin. Well, he said that in reaction to the Pharisees claiming that he cast out because Jesus was casting out demons. He said that Jesus cast out demons in the name of Bael's above, which is basically Satan. And that's, that's blasphemy because you're basically saying that you're giving the power of, you're giving Satan credit for the power of the Holy Spirit. You're basically telling, giving, you know, God's glory to something else. That's blasphemy. So what are the names of blasphemy? I think that these are names of all these false gods that I named before Osiris, Ba, baal, Marduk, Molech, Zeus, Dagon. My guess is that, that this beast is covered with the names of all these false gods. And it makes sense because this beast represents all the world empires and all the world empires worshiped these false gods. So I think those are the names of blasphemy. That's, that's my opinion there.
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Top Lobster
Would you say that Billy Carson is beyond redemption? I mean, if you're espousing these ideas which are like basically small, small G. God worship, that's high form of blasphemy.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. You're attributing all these different things that are of Jesus Christ to all these other sort of entities that have emulated that. That's interesting.
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Ed Mabry
Good question. The unpardonable sin. And the short answer is no, I don't think BC is beyond redemption. Here's why. Because I think when Jesus talked about the unpardonable sin, he was talking about that pre his death and resurrection. I think that you can. I think you can still repent of it. That's my opinion. Some people don't believe that. Some people believe that once you start down that path, you are irredeemable. I don't think so, because I. There are people who have done evil things who eventually repented and came to Christ. So it's not to say who can and can't be redeemed. I think that if Billy Carson saw the error of his ways and repented, I think that he would. I think that he would be forgiven just like any of the rest of us.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Because I don't think that Billy Carson is. Is acting maliciously. I think he's acting off of the information that he thinks he understands.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
And he's just. He's just mistaken.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah. And he's also trying to sell his, you know, get rich courses and whatever else. He's. He's.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, he's got get rich courses. Very interesting.
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Top Lobster
Baby, everyone's griff that down.
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David Lee Corbo
Maybe Billy Carson will help me get rich.
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Ed Mabry
There you go. Yeah, I guess he gives you all the ancient secrets of, of how to get rich through. I don't know. I. I haven't. I don't know. I haven't even gone to his website. I know that he promotes those things as his, you know, how to. How to make more money, but I'm assuming he's gonna. He promotes it by doing. Honestly, I'm gonna guess, false worship.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. Because a lot of these, these entities are responsible for, you know, one thing or another. This one can give you riches, can give you women.
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Top Lobster
He was saying one of the things that when I was watching him on, on Luke's show, he was like, see, I don't. I don't do the praying thing. I just speak it into existence. And that's how I do it. I just speak and I'm like, oh, like Ed kind of told us about this, like speaking something into the ether and making. I was like, this is A little dangerous, buddy, but continue.
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Ed Mabry
All right, so the next thing that we see about this. This woman, the harlot, the false religion, is it's arrayed. She's arrayed in purple and scarlet. What's significant about that? Well, remember that the contemporary audience that John is talking to, they know what these two things mean being arrayed in scarlet. Back in the days of the Roman Empire and even to this day designated the priesthood. And even to this day, if you look at our. The priesthood of Catholicism, what do the cardinals wear? They wear all red. So red was. Is the color of. Of the priesthood. Purple was a color of royalty. The. The royalty would wear purple. The Caesar would wear purple. Why? Because purple is a. For whatever reason, is a really difficult color to. To dye your clothes back then. In fact, when we talk about the church at Thyatira, like back in one of the earlier episodes, the reason that they have their wealth is they were known for. They could produce this really good purple dye, and it was very fashionable to have it if you were rich or royalty. This. This purple dye that they created in Thyatira was again, what all the elites, all the. The royalty would wear. So she's arrayed in purple and scarlet, meaning that she represents the priesthood and royalty. And she had a golden cup full of the abominations and filthiness of her fornication. That just sounds disgusting. Because if you look at again, what is fornication? Fornication is sex. So what. What would that cup be for? Full of? Well, I don't want to think about it, but on the spiritual sense, and this is going to. If you imagine the smell, I don't even want to. I just like you have a cup full of it and she's drinking it. Okay, enough of that.
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Top Lobster
This is like Tim Walls, right?
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Ed Mabry
Never mind. What would that abomination be? And if you're a hardcore Catholic and you're. And you're pissed off me already, it's gonna. It's about to get worse. Who else has a golden cup that's full of something that gets you drunk? The wine of the Eucharist, I think might be pictured here. Why? What is the Eucharist? The Eucharist is basically the one of the perpetual sacrifice of Jesus. Remember with Jesus at the Last Supper, he symbolically said, he, you know, take this cup and, you know, you. It represents my blood and the broken bread. Breaking the bread represents my body, but in. In Catholicism, it's not symbolic. It. They. They say that basically the priest transforms the wine in the cup into the actual blood of Jesus, but it just still tastes like. It looks like mine. Okay, but that puts, that means that Jesus. In the Eucharist, Jesus dies every Mass. He is perpetually sacrificed. It's not a symbol of the death and resurrection of Jesus. It is actually his actual blood and body that is transformed. And that's, I believe that's, that's abominable because you're, you're saying that you. Jesus is forever sacrificed. His sacrifices never end. Has. Had. Never ended. He keeps being sacrificed over and over at every Mass because the priest does his ritual and it becomes his. Jesus bleeds out again. That could be, I could be very wrong there. But, but when I see golden cup and I look at the cups, you know, that they, they use. When I was in, when my wife and I were in Rome, we, you know, we went into the cathedrals and we looked around and we just saw all these just beautiful, priceless golden cups. And like, wow, this is not what a humble carpenter from, from Nazareth would be drinking from. So this golden cup, that could be, you know, the filthiness of the fornication. Because if, if, if, if you're not, if what you're drinking in that cup does not represent Jesus, it represents a different God. That's an abomination. So I just put that out there and let the hate come.
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David Lee Corbo
It's an interesting thing, right? Because if you have this sentiment of like, it is finished when he, when he dies on the cross, then in a way it's kind of not. You know what I mean? If it's, if it's a. Continue. That's an interesting thought.
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Ed Mabry
I have a good friend who, who was a very devout Catholic, and we're still, we still hang out. We just, we've just made a decision that we're not going to talk about it. We had our, we had our one huge discussion about it and we said, okay, we're done. And that's one of the things I told him. I said, according to the Bible, it is finished. But according to Catholicism, no, it's not. You've got to keep doing stuff according to the catechisms of Catholicism. Basically, Jesus's death and resurrection began the process of salvation. And now in order to be completely saved, you've got to confess to priests, take the Eucharist, pray to Mary, do the rosary, do all this other stuff. That's what religion is. Religion is doing stuff on top of the revealed word of God. And that's why I think that this woman could possibly be representing the, the, the Catholic Hierarchy, because it embodies religion. It's a bunch of stuff that is not from the word of God. The word of God does not say to pray a rosary or to pray to Mary or to do all these different things or light candles and whatnot. It's all about what you can do for to save yourself. And if you can. If you can do works to save yourself, then what did Jesus need to die for? And to me, that's the height of blasphemy. Anyway, moving on. So then you see the. The description, all capital letters, mystery. Babylon, the great mother of harlots. That brings it all together. Mystery. The word in Greek is mysterion, which doesn't mean a mystery. The way we think of mystery. To us, a mystery is something that's just hidden. If it's a mystery, we don't know what it is. In Greek, mysterion means something that was unknown but is now being revealed. When Paul says, I've shown you a mystery, I'm talking about Christ in the church. He's saying, I'm revealing this to you for the first time. So when it says mysterion Babylon the Great, he's saying, I'm. John is saying, I'm revealing to you right now what this is. She's a mother of harlots. So she's not just a heart, she's not just a. A doing spiritual prostitution. She's the mother of it. She is the beginning of it. Who is that? That's Cimaramus Cinema Ramus is the mother of all false religions, all false religious systems which we talked about in the background. So I firmly believe that this woman is Semiramis. She was the one who started it all. She is the Scarlet woman. And I think it's being contemporarily executed currently through, through the Vatican, through Roman Catholicism. That. Now that does not mean that there's no other false religions or that's the only one. I think it's the one that's in power right now. But there are plenty of false religions. But this is the mother of it. This is where it began. And that's why, again, Mary in Catholicism is not the vert. Is not the mother of Christ. Harry is just similar. Is similar. Amus. We talked about that already.
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David Lee Corbo
Interesting. So. So what do you. What do you think about this idea of. Of Mary? Because it's not Mary's fault, right? I mean, she just birthed Jesus and then, you know, pointed to him as being the way.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And so it is another if, if that is truly what's happening here, then it is another inversion, right. Like you said earlier that she might be actually shook at what it is she sees happening and what's done in her name.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, that's my opinion. I think if Mary is looking down from heaven saying, what are you guys doing? This is not, this isn't me. Don't I was she again, she's an honorable woman and, and so she should be honored for that. She was. No, she was, she was blessed to be the vessel through which Jesus came into the world. But that's, that's it. She did not co. Redeem us. She is not to be revered or prayed to.
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David Lee Corbo
This is interesting because you do get this emulation or this inversion a couple of times over, right? You have simmery anus, the mother, the mother of all these false religions. But then you also have the idea of like Lilith, which would have been one of the first women to essentially lay with a fallen angel and birth a nephilim. That is at least how the lore goes. And I know that's from extra canonical books. I believe it's actually from Jewish texts where you get the information about the Kabbalah. So but once again, it's like inverting the, the mother.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, yeah, it's very much an inversion. It's, it's really, I mean, it's just taking again the, the old mother child cult and just slapping the Christian name on it. Just slapping Mary's name on the. She. This is not who she was. It's just, you know, they basically just changed her. Just, just put her name and her likeness onto this, this, this maternal figure, the Queen of Heaven, who's, who has been worshiped for thousands of years before Mary was even born. It's not her.
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David Lee Corbo
I, I want to ask you this too, because this is something that I see the, the chat is kind of hashing out right now. It's a topic that comes up often. But this idea of veneration, right, veneration for Mother Mary is this the equivalency of worship? Somebody says that it's idolatry. I can understand looking to the mother of Jesus Christ and having like, respect and being like, thank God that this all played out the way that it did.
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Top Lobster
But yeah, I, I would never like, I, I don't get involved with the Catholic Church stuff, but when I do think about Mary, I do think there must be, must have been something very special about this person to be chosen by God. So I don't know what the word veneration means. I'm an idiot. But a lot of respect for, you know, whatever she was before God chose her. Like, I, I, she had to have been some, some sort of special.
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Ed Mabry
I think she deserves our admiration. And if I use the word veneration, that she should be venerated, then forgive me for that. I, I didn't mean to imply that. I think she should be respected just like all the other great men and women of the Bible should be respected. Not worshiped, respected. She, she did a good thing. I mean, she was, look, she could have been stoned to death for this because Joseph, her husband, knew she hadn't been with him. And she, when in that day and age, if you show up pregnant before you, before you were with the man you were betrothed to, that is a, that's a death penalty. And when the angel Gabriel came to her and said, you know, we're going to, you're going to be the vessel.
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David Lee Corbo
She could have said, no, honestly, she had to be a really good person for, for Joseph to trust her. I mean, imagine, you know, if you're on the fence about somebody.
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Ed Mabry
Well, keep in mind, it says Joseph was going to put her away. And that's, there's a difference between being divorced and being put away. Being put away means you're being kicked out of the community. Community. He was into it privately. He, Joseph was a good man as well. He says, look, you know what? You, you're pregnant. I haven't had sex with you. I could. If he publicly put her away, then she could have been stoned. He said, I'm going to put you away privately. I'm just going to, basically, I'm going to smuggle you out. I don't want you to die. I still, I still like you. I think, I still think you're a good girl, but I can't marry you now that you, you're pregnant with someone else's kid. But I will, I'll sneak you away so you can live. But what happened was an angel came to gate to Joseph and said, no, don't do it. You know, this is from God. So, you know, just, And Joseph and Joseph, being a good man, said, okay, got it. I'm gonna, you know, I'll still, I'll still revere her and I'll still, you know, marry her. But understand that. Yeah, so she was definitely a great woman of God. There's no doubt. In fact, it's the, it's quite possible that the third epistle of John was written to Mary because he calls her the oh, my God. Right to the not the elite woman. He called her the. The blessed woman or something like that. I. Forgive me. I don't have it in front of me right now. But he called her. Yeah, but he's. He's basically his. Because he remembered that Jesus, when he was on the cross, he told John to take care of his mother. So, you know, so I think that the. The third epistle of John was basically written to. To Mary.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay. All right. So this is one of those situations where it's like. I like what you said before. Like, all of the characters of the Bible, they should be respected and admired, but that does not mean that they should be worshiped.
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Ed Mabry
Right, Exactly. Okay. Yeah. So I'm gonna start wrapping up. So we're getting close to time. So I'm gonna read from the. I want to go back to chapter 17 and start reading from verse, verse 12. And so it says, the 10 horns which you saw. It was on the beast are ten kings who have now received. Who have received no kingdom as yet, but they will receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. I'm reading from the new King, James. These one mind will give the power and authority to the beast through the Antichrist. These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them. For he is Lord and Lord of lords and King of kings. And those who are with him are called chosen and faithful. 15, verse 15. He. And he. Then he said to me, this is the angel, by the way, interpreting this vision. He said to me, the waters which you saw that the harlot. On where the harlot sits are peoples, multitudes, nations and. And tongues. And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it in their hearts to fulfill his purpose to be of one mind and to give their kingdom to the beast until the words of God are fulfilled. And the woman who you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth. So let's break this down. So those 10. Yeah, yeah, I know. We're gonna get to the city. So the. So those 10 horns. Horns represent spiritual authority. There are 10 spiritual authorities who don't have a kingdom as yet, but they will be. They will have a. A. They will have power for a short time with the Antichrist. So many people try to interpret that as meaning that they're. That they will have their 10 regions of the world that'll be over. Or some people try to make them like the, the European Union, that, that got to be very popular in the 80s when, when the European Union went and went to 10 nations. But then when it. Then it went to more and it kind of fell off. But whoever. I think we don't know who they are. I think that basically when the Antichrist takes over, the world is going to be at a very different place and may be divided into 10 regions, who knows? But these are 10 spiritual authorities in there. And then. But they immediately give all their power over to the Antichrist, which means that they must have had some kind of authority on earth. And they give it to the Antichrist. And it's. And there's a parenthetical statement that they will make war with the Lamb. That's Armageddon in the Lamb, Lord for overcome them for he's king of king and lords of lord, Lord of lords. So the interpretation of the waters on which the woman sits are peoples, nations, tongues, muscles, twos and tongues. Pretty easy to. To understand that because she is, you know, she. The harlotry, the false religion. The mystics are over all people. We're all subject to them. Unfortunately, in, in this world right now. They've been around since the beginning, since Semiramis's time. And these mystics, these elites, these, you know, what everyone call them, the Illuminati Council of Rome, Bilderbergs, Bohemian Grove. Not to be confused with Bohemian Grove.
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Top Lobster
Scan, the QR Code or, or, you.
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Ed Mabry
Know, the Trilateral Commission. All these mystics, they're. They're over all the. All the world. And, but here's the interesting part of verse 16. It says, the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot and basically make her naked, burn her with fire and eat her flesh. What does that mean symbolically? It means that they have these 10 horns, these 10 authorities. They are going to be the ones who judge the. The harlot who judges the mystics, who judge false religion. And it says they will hate her. Understand that the word hate in Greek is the word maceo, which doesn't mean hate the way we mean it. It means M means to love less. So it won't say. It doesn't mean that they're going to be angry at her, but it means they're going to love her, her love their false religion less. Than what? Than the Antichrist. Because remember, the Antichrist at this point is going to demand that he be worshiped as God. What does that mean? That means all the other religions have got to go. That means. Is all the other religions are going to be illegal. Islam will be illegal. Hinduism will be illegal. Shintoism will be really illegal. Paganism of any kind, witchcraft, all of it's going to be illegal. Remember what I said before? There are only three categories of people left. You're either worshiping the Antichrist, you're a part of the Jewish remnant, or you're still a Christian, you know, maintaining things as best you can. All other religions have got to go and all of their power is going to be given to the Antichrist. That's what it means when he says he strips her naked. So all of her, her purple robes and scarlet robes and all of her precious jewels and everything that that false religion has, has earned throughout the year, even in the Vatican. I've been to the Vatican. It's unbelievable wealth there. I mean, everything is inlaid with gold. There is precious artwork from all the masters, the Sistine Chapel, all the. I mean, I've said before, on faith by reason that if, if the Vatican just sold 10% of what if they kept 90 of their stuff and sold 10 of it, they could feed every starving person on earth several times over. But they don't. They hoard it all there. All that's going to be taken from them and given to the Antichrist. So she's going to finally get her comeuppance. All the. Again, all these groups, these trilateral commissions and Bilderbergs and Council on Economic form and all this stuff, all of their power is going to the Antichrist. Why? Because he doesn't need them anymore right now. And from, from time immemorial to right now, Satan, fallen angels, they don't care what religion you are. They don't care as long as you're not a Christian. They don't care if you want to worship Allah. They don't care if you want to worship Vishnu and Krishna. Vishnu and Chris and Krishna from Hinduism. They don't care if you want to worship Buddha. They don't care. Just don't be a Christian. That's the only religion they hate. That's the only religion that elites hate, that's the only religion that the Illuminati hates is Christianity. They're cool with all the rest of them. They're okay with them. But when you get to the midpoint of tribulation, they're. They don't need them anymore and they're going to be destroyed. They're. You're going to worship the Antichrist or you're going to die. Basically. You could almost say that the elites, these people who are in power now, the. The Klaus Schwab's of the world, the. You can see the Bill Gates and the Jeff Bezos of the world. They're useful idiots. They. They're using them now because they're helpful. But when it. When the time comes, they're gonna have to turn all their power over to the Antichrist or they're going to digest like anyone else. So this is where the elites get their comeuppance. And God, it says God put it in their hearts. So the irony is the people who are judging the entities who are judging the false religion and destroying it is not God directly, it's these. These spiritual authorities, because they don't need them anymore. Every. All the worship has to be dedicated to the Antichrist. So all the other religions, you got to go under penalty of death, and all of their riches are going to be shifted to the Antichrist in his kingdom. Wow.
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Top Lobster
I mean, we see that in political movements over and over again. Just think of like the Brown Shirts or the antifas. Once they played their part, it's like, okay, thank you. Now please face the wall.
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Ed Mabry
Exactly. They're always the first ones to go. Yeah, the Brown Shirts, that's a great example, because these. Same thing. I'm sure they were shocked. Like, wait a minute, I was. I was down for the ss. I was down for the color cause. Yeah, but we don't need you anymore. You were a useful idiot. Now you're not useful anymore. So time to die, idiot. Yep.
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Top Lobster
As a matter of fact, they're probably the most dangerous ones because they're the ideological ones that will cling to something. So they've got to go, man.
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David Lee Corbo
I think we're going to see that very soon with the sort of the WOKE ideology, the. The extreme leftism, the lgbtq, I. Whatever, ideology. That sort of thing, I think was definitely a tool that was used to get America to a certain point. And now the pendulum is going to swing, and those people that were, you know, loud voices in that community, I don't think it's going to go so well.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, yeah. Like you said, they're going to be the first ones they turn on because, again, they're the easiest ones to turn on. Like, tops. Yeah. They're already true believers.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes.
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Ed Mabry
They're going to be easy to find. They're not going to run and hide. They're going to be right there. So, you know, they're closer to the bullet, so they'll be the ones that get shot.
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David Lee Corbo
You know, nothing new under the sun. It's like everything is a, is an emulation of a spiritual law of some sort.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah. So the last verse, and this is probably the one that's, that has a lot of controversy involved. It says, and that woman who you saw is that great city that reigns over the kings of the earth. So what city are we talking about? Is it a physical city? Is it a, is it literal city? Is it a, an allegorical city? Might be both, because again, in, in the Bible a city is usually a seat of government. So what city reigns over the earth? I think it's.
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David Lee Corbo
Storm the Vatican 2024. Storm the Vatican.
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Ed Mabry
I, I think that the, the physical city has moved around. I, you could argue that right now maybe it is Vatican City. There's some people argue that it's New York, some who argue that it's London. If you look at the, the letter to the Church of Pergamos, it's Pergamum. Pergamum was, was the seat of Satan at the time. So I think physics Babylon, there, there are actually some people who believe that the city of Babylon is going to be rebuilt. There was a huge movement around that, that, you know, that, that the physical Babylon is going to be rebuilt. And the reason behind that was because there's a judgment in the book of Jeremiah that Babylon is supposed to suffer that it apparently hasn't suffered yet. It basically said that Babylon, the actual city on the, the banks of the Euphrates, is going to be destroyed to the point where it's never inhabited again. Well, that, that hasn't happened yet. It's. Babylon is still inhabited to this day. So some people think that that's where the Antichrist is going to set up his physical kingdom. If you read the, the Left behind books, which were all the rage in like the, the 90s, early 2000s, you know, they did a whole end time thing, a whole end time series. I think they're like 12 books. They had the Antichrist's kingdom in physical Babylon. Maybe, maybe not. But there is, but I, I think I would say that the city represents the, the, I would take it more allegorical than literal. Doesn't mean it can't be. But I, I would say it's just, it's a seat of government. Wherever the seat of government is, wherever the folks who are ruling over the government is, that's where the city is. So could be Rome. I don't, I don't think it's a city in America. But there are people who believe that America is mystery Babylon. There are people who believe this? It's London. So I don't have a definitive answer. I would just say that it's going to be wherever the city, wherever the. The ruling class is leading from. And I think there's been different cities throughout history.
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David Lee Corbo
So it's more of a spiritual issue than it is. I mean, it's wherever that spirit resides.
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Ed Mabry
About it, in my opinion. I think. So if you were to name a city, I would think that Vatican City slash Rome probably fits it best right now. But again, that's, you know, that's. That's. If it's a literal city. Go ahead.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I was gonna say it seems like one of those things where it's like, just be watchful. Yeah, keep watching.
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Ed Mabry
And we're gonna talk. We're going to get back to this. So this was chapter 17. Chapter 18 is, is what people call the fall of Commercial Babylon. And I'm going to. I'm not going to jump right to that. I think next week we're going to start talking about the. The Bowls of Wrath. Then I'm going to get to the fall of Commercial Babylon because I think that that happens more towards the end of the Tribulation, whereas I think this fall of religion happens around the midpoint again when the Antichrist demands to be worshiped. But. But again, the fall of Commercial Babylon is also tied to a city. And because again, what we'll see then is that all of the riches of the world are destroyed and no one buys anything anymore. And no one cares about wealth or gold. Now I think the reason is, like, when you let me see what happens at the Bowls of Wrath when the devastation that occurs there. If the world's burning, who cares about gold? Gold is just a chunk of metal. If I can't, I don't have water to drink and food to eat. What, what do I care about fiat currency? Why do I. What do I care about, you know, buying, you know, jewelry and Ferraris when I can't eat? So that, that's kind of. That's kind of a preview of that. Yeah, that's. That is the. The judgment of the Scarlet Woman, the Whore of Babylon in the End of Religion.
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David Lee Corbo
So we're getting on. This is episode 13. Now. How. How many more do you think we have you for? Because I've been dreading that we're coming to the end of this series. And it's not even a joke. I've been talking to Top about it. I'm like, what are we gonna do? What do you, in your estimation, think that we have left.
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Ed Mabry
Well, let me estimate. So the Bowls of Wrath, then Commercial Babylon, Armageddon, the. The Gog Magog War. We got to go over that. The millennium that could take. That's going to take at least two episodes. Then we need to talk about the Great White Throne Judgment. I think we have about 10 more.
- [100:16]
David Lee Corbo
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Okay, good, good. I was worried that you were going to tell me.
- [100:20]
Top Lobster
We have a couple more weeks to make up our next moves.
- [100:23]
Ed Mabry
Yeah.
- [100:23]
David Lee Corbo
Because we got to figure it out. We got a plan. There's going to be a void left when this is over and people are going to be freaking out. We're going to be freaking out. And so that's good to know that we still have time to figure that out. Where can everybody find your work, Ed?
- [100:37]
Ed Mabry
Yeah, best place is faithbyreason.net. that's where all my material is. My videos are on YouTube and Rumble, but all my. My blogs and my podcasts are all there. You can also. I'm on the other podcast, Basic. The podcast plays like Apple Podcasts. And yeah, I'm basically wherever you find, wherever your podcasts are. I think I have a. Have it set up to go out to all the main ones. I don't. I don't think I'm on Spotify. I have to check into that again.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay.
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Top Lobster
Oh, you got to get on Spotify. Yeah, they'll do video for you and all that.
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David Lee Corbo
Spotify.
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Top Lobster
We have a. Sorry, we have a super chat. 20 bucks from Laney Boy. He said just want to give money for how fantastic this episode is. New all time favorite. I need to share this with friends and family. Please do share this with all the people you know, people you don't know, people you like, people you hate. Tell them about Ed. Tell them about us.
- [101:32]
David Lee Corbo
Right? I mean, honestly, out of everything we do, I. I love sharing information with people. It's information that I'm genuinely interested in. But I'm. I'm much happier to be doing the Revelation series because I feel like it does a great job. The book of Revelation is such a. Something that is culturally significant, but not a lot of people understand it. And so I think it does bring a lot of eyes. And there is a sort of. What would you. Some people shame like, oh, you. You know the book of Revelation, but you don't know the other books. Whatever your entry into having a stronger relationship with God is, then, you know, so be it. And if this serves that purpose, then, you know, it's just. It's. It's one of the things that I'm happier to put out. So we're always grateful for your time, Ed. Guys, everybody should go to Faith by Reason and not only share Ed's work with the people that you like, but like Top said, share them with the people that you don't like. Aren't we supposed to pray for our enemies? Guys, also, before we go, brogrove.com is up and running. That is where you're going to find your tickets for the greatest comedy, conspiracy, political and music event that anybody has ever thrown. And the reason I say that is because I don't think anybody's throwing anything like it. So the competition, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it's a low bar, but Leonardo Joni is going to be headlining. Revenge of the Cyst is going to be there. Tower Gang, Nephilim Death Squad, the one on one podcast. Cheney, Thomas the paranoid American. Jay Dyer is going to be there. Josie the redhead. It's a stacked event. If you want to be there October 25th through the 26th in Summerfield, Florida, at the joke joint. Go to Bro Grove and pick up your tickets. They are available to the general public. Guys.
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Top Lobster
Yes. And with that, we'll see you next week. I think we'll be back on Monday or Tuesday or maybe both. I don't know. We've got a packed schedule, so, Ed, I'll catch you later, guys. Peace out.
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Ed Mabry
The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.