Podcast
Neuroinclusion: Across the Pond and Beyond
Hosted by Pasha Marlowe and Atif Choudhury · EN
Join hosts and global neurodiversity speakers Pasha Marlowe and Atif Choudhury for a uniquely expansive, deeply human, and hopeful conversation about neuroinclusion and the state of humanity. This podcast, Neuroinclusion: Across the Pond and Beyond, will explore neurodiversity from a global, cultural, and systemic lens. Pasha and Atif will discuss neuroinclusion in the workplace, but also the power and relational dynamics of neuroinclusion in homes and communities. Conversations will weave together current events and politics, workplace trends, accessibility, power and societal dynamics, and the mental health of humanity at large.
Pasha Marlowe (she/her), CEO of Neurobelonging and therapist/coach for over 30 years, specializes in working with neurodivergent individuals, couples, and groups and has expanded her practice to include keynotes, webinars, and trainings for global leaders and organizations who want to adopt neurodiversity-affirming programs and practices. She is the author of "Creating Cultures of Neuroinclusion". She is a mother to three adult children and lives in Maine, USA.
Atif Choudhury (he/him), CEO of Calling All Minds and co-founder of Zaytoun CIC, is an award-wining social entrepreneur with a background in economic justice and disabiity inclusion. He is an adviser to the WHO rapid assitive technologies board and is a trustee for Disability Rights UK. He is a global neurodiversity speaker who also offers corporate and leadership training. He is the father of two young children and lives just outside of London, UK.
To reach Pasha or Atif for feedback, questions, or to request a guest appearance on the podcast, contact us at pasha@pashamarlowe.com or atif@callingallminds.com.
You can also find more information on their websites pashamarlowe.com and callingallminds.com or follow them on Linkedin.
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Episode #5: Drop the Disorder and Depathologise Mental Health
3w ago00:45:25Tap to summarizeTo honor Mental Health Awareness Month, Atif and Pasha explore the concepts of neurodivergence, mental health, and disability through the lens of the neurodiversity paradigm and the social model. There is a call to action to "Drop the D", removing disorder from our language, even as we are still navigating systems that use the pathology paradigm and medical model. Concepts such as intersectionality, identity, and social justice are also explored through a socio-political and cultural lens. *Note that while not all forms of neurodivergence are mental health conditions, all mental health conditions are forms of neurodivergence, as they diverge from neuronormativity. Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →#4: ADHD, autism, and RSD-a cultural lens
May 200:38:59Tap to summarizeJoin Atif and Pasha for a cross-cultural and emotional conversation about ADHD, autism, RSD and what it is like to travel right now as a neurodivergent U.S. citizen who is opposed to Trump (not fun). Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →Episode #3: Co-Regulation and Collective Liberation
Apr 1600:40:46Tap to summarizeJoin Atif Choudhury and Pasha Marlowe for another whole-hearted conversation about neuroinclusion, including barriers in the workplace, how leaders can be co-regulators, and what intersectionality and astronauts can teach us about collective liberation. Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →#2: Nervous System Diversity and Glimmers of Hope
Apr 100:44:17Tap to summarizeThis week Atif and Pasha went LIVE with their podcast to engage audiences in the conversation. After brief introductions and intention setting, they describe neurodiversity as nervous system diversity and the diversity of all minds. Atif shared his perspective on the current socio-political climate and Pasha shared her perspective on the impact on nervous systems. They discussed what worked and didn't work during this year's Neurodiversity Celebration Week and the GLIMMERS of hope they feel for a more neuroinclusive future. Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
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Episode #1: Neuroinclusion: A Global Conversation and Movement with Pasha Marlowe and Atif Choudhury
Mar 1700:40:45Tap to summarizeJoin hosts and global neurodiversity speakers Pasha Marlowe and Atif Choudhury for a uniquely expansive, deeply human, and hopeful conversation about neuroinclusion and the state of humanity. This podcast, Neuroinclusion: Across the Pond and Beyond, will explore neurodiversity from a global, cultural, and systemic lens. Pasha and Atif will discuss neuroinclusion in the workplace, but also the power and relational dynamics of neuroinclusion in homes and communities. Conversations will weave together current events and politics, workplace trends, accessibility, power and societal dynamics, and the mental health of humanity at large. Pasha Marlowe (she/her), CEO of Neurobelonging and therapist/coach for over 30 years, specializes in working with neurodivergent individuals, couples, and groups and has expanded her practice to include keynotes, webinars, and trainings for global leaders and organizations who want to adopt neurodiversity-affirming programs and practices. She is the author of "Creating Cultures of Neuroinclusion". She is a mother to three adult children and lives in Maine, USA.Atif Choudhury (he/him), CEO of Calling All Minds and co-founder of Zaytoun CIC, is an award-wining social entrepreneur with a background in economic justice and disabiity inclusion. He is an adviser to the WHO rapid assitive technologies board and is a trustee for Disability Rights UK. He is a global neurodiversity speaker who also offers corporate and leadership training. He is the father of two young children and lives just outside of London, UK. To reach Pasha or Atif for feedback, questions, or to request a guest appearance on the podcast, contact us at pasha@pashamarlowe.com or atif@callingallminds.com. You can also find more information on their websites pashamarlowe.com and callingallminds.com or follow them on Linkedin. Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →Ep #100: "The Future of Work is Neuroinclusion and Accessibility" with Jamie Shields
Feb 13, 202400:51:20Tap to summarizeI am celebrating my 100th podcast episode (Neuroqueering and Let Pleasure Be the Measure combined) with one of my new favorite people and the inspiration for my future work as I lean into creating cultures of neuroinclusion and accessibility. All the way from northern Ireland, welcome Jamie Shields! Jamie Shields is a registered blind AuDHD speaker, trainer, and consultant, who works with individuals and brands, helping them make inclusive accessible change. He is also the creator of Disabled by Society. Jamie and I talk about DEIB, including the concept of neurobelonging, an internal sense of belonging and self-acceptance. I ask "How do we get leaders of organizations to care about disability and accessibility before it is their own lived experience?" This leads to an important conversation about power, privilege, anger, ableism, discrimination, neurodiversity, and the importance of inclusive language. Follow Jamie on Linkedin @JamieShields www.disabledbysociety.comStay tuned for an exciting and even more expansive podcast coming soon!Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →#33: "IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy effectiveness for neurodivergent minds"
Jan 30, 202400:32:13Tap to summarizeIn today's "Neuroqueering" podcast, Ellie Carn (she/they), psychotherapist, and host Pasha Marlowe (she/they), marriage and family therapist and coach, explain what IFS (Internal Family Systems/"parts" work) is and why it is so effective for neurodivergent minds, especially those with ADHD and autism. Ellie begins with an overview and history of IFS then describes what the therapeutic process of parts work looks like. Ellie shares how traditional therapy models are often pathologizing and ableist, whereas, IFS is beneficial for neurodivergent people as it is empowering, playful, guided by the client, and creates space to "meet clients where they are at". Ellie even ponders if "parts work" is, in essence, unmasking. Pasha and Ellie conclude by encouraging listeners to try many different therapists and therapy modalities. IG @ifs_with_elliehttps://www.eleanorcarn.co.uk/"No Bad Parts" book https://a.co/d/4AcMwBpSupport the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →Ep. #32 "Building Psychological Safety Nets at Work"
Jan 16, 202400:13:53Tap to summarizeIn psychologically safe workplaces, people feel safe voicing their opinions about conflict and mistakes-without the fear of negative consequences. Leaders need to be brave-brave enough to invite open and honest feedback. Leaders need to hear what’s really going on, so dysfunctional and unhealthy patterns can be interrupted and problems can be solved. But only when the most vulnerable team members, those with the most intersecting marginalized identities, feel free enough to express their thoughts and feelings, is an organization psychologically safe enough for everyone to thrive.In this episode, Pasha talks about the cultural transformation that occurs when you intend to create psychologically safe spaces. She also talks about the term "safe space" and how we can never guarantee safety for all. Finally, she offers a framework to build "psychological safety nets" through the lens of intersectionality and inclusion. Please reach out to Pasha if you would like to hire her as a coach, consultant, or speaker at pasha@pashamarlowe.com She looks forward to helping you. Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →#30 "Framework to Support Neurodivergent and Queer People" with Pasha Marlowe
Dec 10, 202300:18:11Tap to summarizePart 2 of the Neuroqueering and Neurobelonging discussionThis episode provides practical tools and a complete framework for supporting neurodivergent and queer people. The skills you learn today will help ALL leaders (parents, teachers, coaches, and therapists) be neurodiversity-affirming and gender- affirming. Pasha shares the framework that was presented at the international ADHD conference that includes intersectionality, asking, affirming, and advocating. Concepts of psychological safety, non-apparent disability, inclusive design, and safe space are explored. Pasha states "Unless you intentionally include, you will unintentionally exclude" and encourages people to "drop the disorder" from our language. If you want to dig deeper into the concepts of the neurodiversity paradigm, psychological safety, inclusive language, and dual stigma, please listen to Part 1, entitled "Neurobelonging and the Neurodiversity Paradigm". Please reach out to Pasha with any questions or to discuss these concepts further at pasha@pashamarlowe.com Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
Transcribe →#31 AuDHD BURNOUT: How to Prepare for and Recover from Big Events and Sensory Overload
Dec 10, 202300:11:33Tap to summarizeAuDHD burnout is real! This episode (or is it a comedy routine?) is for anyone ADHD or autistic with a big event like a family gathering or conference coming up. Allow me to share ways to rock, ruin, and recover from your experience. From tips on traveling to recovering from sensory overload to how NOT to pee on your shoes, this conversation is raw, relatable, and hilarious, especially if you belong to a neurodivergent family! Want to try Magic Mind productivity shots? You are in luck! Get the limited 56% off their first subscription & 20% off a one time purchase with my unique discount code:https://www.magicmind.com/JANneuroqueer for one month free AND an extra 20% off (which gets you to 75% off) with this code NEUROQUEER20Also available now at Sprouts! Support the showHire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives) https://pashamarlowe.com/pasha@pashamarlowe.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference. atif@callingallminds.comcallingallminds.comLinkedin: @AtifChoudhury
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