Episode Summary: Nile Green, "Serendipitous Translations: A Sourcebook on Sri Lanka in the Islamic Indian Ocean"
Podcast: New Books Network – New Books in the Indian Ocean World
Host: Ahmed El Shamsy
Guest: Nile Green
Book Discussed: Serendipitous Translations: A Sourcebook on Sri Lanka in the Islamic Indian Ocean (U Texas Press, 2026)
Release Date: January 7, 2026
Overview
This episode features a rich conversation between host Ahmed El Shamsy and historian Nile Green, editor of the new volume Serendipitous Translations. The book gathers, for the first time in English, a wide range of primary texts reflecting the multilingual, multi-ethnic Muslim presence in Sri Lanka—traditionally called Lanka or Serendip—at the crossroads of the Indian Ocean. The discussion explores the diversity and complexity of Muslim experience, trade, and identity in Sri Lankan and Indian Ocean history, addressing both scholarship and pressing contemporary questions.
Main Themes and Purpose
- A New Sourcebook: The episode introduces Green’s sourcebook, which assembles translations from Arabic, Tamil, Persian, Malay, Ottoman Turkish, Urdu, Divehi, and Sinhala, illustrating how Muslim travelers, traders, critics, and communities have interacted with Sri Lanka over more than a millennium.
- Beyond Cosmopolitanism: The discussion challenges simplistic notions of Indian Ocean “cosmopolitanism,” demonstrating instead the nuanced realities of trust, connection, and difference among communities across language and religion.
- The Issue of Representation: Green discusses the limitations posed by scholarly gaps—particularly the relative lack of scholarship on the Moors, the largest Muslim population in Sri Lanka—and reflects on the politics of inclusion and exclusion in both past and present.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The Book’s Big Picture Goals
(04:14–07:58)
- Serendipitous Translations aims to expand the empirical base of Indian Ocean history, foregrounding original sources in the region’s own languages and scripts.
- Green stresses the necessity and challenges of collaboration: “This is necessarily a collaborative, collaborative endeavor.” [06:08, C]
- The volume “empirically test[s] the cliché… of Indian Ocean cosmopolitanism. What does that mean? Is everybody connected?… Obviously not.” [06:59, C]
- By juxtaposing both “insider” and “outsider” perspectives—including Buddhist and Christian Sinhala reactions to Muslims—the book explores the diversity of Muslim communal experience and South Asian encounters with Islam.
2. The Challenges of Editing a Multilingual Volume
(08:33–13:41)
- Editorial headaches in such a project stemmed from the “truly recondite languages” and specialized scripts (Tamil, Divehi, Jawi, Arabic-Tamil).
- “Every time I take on a new [edited] book, my wife reminds me, ‘You said you’d never do it again.’ But I’m a slave to my own enthusiasm…” [08:44, C]
- Decisions had to be made about translation style, level of commentary, and consistency:
- Should these be ‘faithful or beautiful’? I wanted to make this a book of translations that are readable, that might be read in the classroom, that might be read for pleasure… [11:49, C]
- Each chapter includes an introduction to ease entry for readers unfamiliar with the language or tradition in question.
3. Reconsidering the Moors and Community Representation
(13:47–22:05)
- Contrary to the impression of “decentering” the Moors, Green laments the paucity of available translators and scholarship on premodern Moorish (Tamil Muslim) literary tradition:
- “If anything, I would have liked to have pushed the, the, the story, the literature of the Moors of Lanka into a much bigger position. But… finding any academics who were capable of translating Sri Lankan or indeed Islamic Tamil altogether… that's what led me to realize… I should take this opportunity to write a 75-page introduction.” [16:30, C]
- The designation “Moors” itself is an exonym, imposed by Portuguese colonizers and later embraced by the community as a means of differentiation during colonial and postcolonial ethnic tensions.
- Green highlights the urgent need for scholarly attention to the Moorish textual tradition, observing:
- “There is so much work to be done with the Tamil language sources for the Moors and they are such a fascinating community.” [21:33, C]
4. Primary Sources and the Problem of Cosmopolitanism
(22:05–41:37)
- Green’s own chapter translates Mirza Muhammad Kazam’s Sayr Darya, a rare Urdu narrative of travel and trade in 1890s Ceylon, written for both “armchair Urdu readers and would-be businessmen.”
- The conversation addresses how such sources illustrate both the aspirations and the limits of cross-cultural understanding:
- “How much cross-cultural knowledge, how much cosmopolitanism comes out of trade…” [27:02, C]
- Commercial mistrust is a recurring theme; not all connections were harmonious:
- “We have very little primary source materials of trade that are written in the languages of the ocean… I think one of the most striking things is… there's actually a great deal of mistrust, of social distance and of mistrust of various communities.” [36:45, C]
- Ahmed offers a personal anecdote:
- “I tried to buy some antique artifacts actually in Galle, which turned to be fakes as well. I was reading this alongside what was happening in the marketplace…” [40:01, B]
5. Sacred Geographies and Longue-Durée Perspectives
(41:37–48:29)
- Throughout over 1,200 years of Islamic writing on Lanka, Adam’s Peak (seen as the site of Adam’s descent to earth) and the island’s gemstone riches remain central motifs, enmeshing trade and sacred geography:
- “Lanka seems to be associated in the Muslim imagination… with its sacred geography… and pearls or jewels of the sea and jewels of the land.” [41:49, C]
- Medieval Arabic, Persian, and later Urdu, Tamil, and Malay sources all circulated stories and information about Sri Lanka, sometimes without firsthand knowledge—demonstrating how networks of literary production shaped perceptions as much as trade or pilgrimage.
6. Contemporary Resonances: History, Anticosmopolitanism, and Minority Belonging
(48:29–53:40)
- The host and guest discuss how Sri Lanka’s history has rarely matched idealistic portrayals of Indian Ocean co-existence.
- With recent Buddhist nationalist movements (e.g., Budu Bala Sena) erasing or recasting Muslim sites and histories, the question of visibility and legitimacy for the Moors becomes urgent.
- Green expresses hope that the sourcebook will aid both scholarship and the Moor community in asserting the antiquity and legitimacy of their presence:
- “I hope the book actually… serves their own interests by showing their deep historical root on Lanka—that Moors for at least the last 111 years… and perhaps a millennium before, [have been] keen to assert the longevity of their presence and their belonging on Lanka.” [52:54, C]
7. Advice for Scholars & Upcoming Work
(54:44–58:58)
- On productivity:
- “One is just get on with it. Early in my career I decided that I cannot afford the luxury of writer's block. …That writerly discipline of just making habits, I think, is really important.” [54:52, C]
- Upcoming projects include:
- Sea of Difference: A monograph examining whether cross-cultural trade led to cross-cultural understanding across Sri Lanka, the Maldives, Zanzibar, Kenya, and Tanzania.
- The Arabicate World: An edited volume examining languages, literatures, and cultures influenced by Arabic far beyond the Arab world.
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
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On Testing Cosmopolitanism:
“By giving this series of insider accounts and indeed insider, outsider—Sinhala, Buddhist and Christian response to the Muslim presence, particularly Muslim merchants in Sri Lanka—the idea was to actually test: well, how much cosmopolitanism can we actually see in these primary sources by actors and participants within Indian Ocean history.”
— Nile Green (07:37, C) -
On Editorial Pain and Enthusiasm:
“Every time I take on a new [edited] book, my wife reminds me, ‘You said you’d never do it again.’ But I’m a slave to my own enthusiasm, so I do it again and again.”
— Nile Green (08:44, C) -
On Translation Aims:
“I wanted to make this a book of translations that are readable, that might be read in the classroom, that might be read for pleasure.”
— Nile Green (11:49, C) -
On the Limits of Area Studies:
“The restriction of people learning Tamil only for the huge and 2000 year old set of Hindu Tamil traditions… has really left huge possibilities, but really a huge lacuna in Indian Ocean history as well as Sri Lankan history.”
— Nile Green (21:38, C) -
On Trade and Trust:
“Indian Ocean trade could lead not just to trust and therefore cosmopolitanism and all the good stuff, but… can well… reflect pre-existing trust or mistrust, or maybe can even develop distrust…”
— Nile Green (37:45, C) -
On Historians’ Responsibility to Communities:
“For the Moors themselves then the book I think and I hope will support their own claims to indigeneity…”
— Nile Green (52:35, C)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 01:06 — Episode and Guest Introduction
- 04:14–07:58 — Book’s main goals and theoretical stakes
- 08:33–13:41 — Practical challenges of multilingual editing
- 13:47–22:05 — Moorish community, representation, and sources
- 22:05–41:37 — Primary sources on trade, travel, trust, and cross-cultural encounter
- 41:37–48:29 — Sacred geographies, Adam’s Peak, longue-durée continuities
- 48:29–53:40 — Nationalism, identity, and use of history in present-day Lanka
- 54:44–58:58 — Writing habits and future scholarly projects
- 58:58–60:42 — Closing reflections and thanks
Final Thoughts
The conversation underscores the essential role of original sources, linguistic diversity, and critical methodology in understanding the Indian Ocean’s Islamic history and the complex identities of Sri Lanka’s Muslims. The volume is both a scholarly resource and a statement about the significance of historical memory—especially for marginalized or threatened communities.
Recommended for:
Historians of the Indian Ocean, Islamic studies scholars, area studies specialists, students of translation, and anyone interested in global history from unconventional vantage points.
