Podcast Summary: The Far Edges of the Known World – New Books Network (Feb 17, 2026)
Overview
This episode of Nomads Past and Present (a segment of the New Books Network) features host Maggie Freeman interviewing Dr. Owen Reese, an interdisciplinary ancient historian and author of The Far Edges of the Known World: A New History of the Ancient Past. The discussion explores Reese’s innovative take on the borderlands of the ancient Greek and Roman worlds, challenging traditional historical narratives and periodizations. Uniquely, the conversation centers on life at the “edges” of ancient empires, highlighting nomadic societies, the concept of peripheries vs. centers, cultural assimilation, and the construction of identity through both evidence and historiography.
Main Discussion Points & Insights
1. Rethinking Chronology and Geography in Ancient History
- Scope of the Book ([01:22])
- Covers 6,000 years and three continents.
- Moves from Egypt’s pharaonic period, through the classical Greek and Roman worlds, ending with Ethiopia’s Aksumite kingdom during the rise of Islam.
- Challenges European chronological frameworks: aligns "classical" and "medieval" with simultaneous golden ages elsewhere (e.g., Ethiopia, the Islamic world).
- Reese notes: “That kind of change of perspective was quite an important theme throughout the book. And actually, when we look outside of the Mediterranean, do our preconceptions and our assumptions still stand...?” ([03:54])
- Geographical Breadth
- Begins at Egyptian-Nubian borderlands, spans Europe, Mediterranean, North Africa, India, Southeast Asia (Vietnam), and ends in Ethiopia ([04:44]).
- Emphasizes the Roman world’s awareness of distant societies and challenges the notion of the “ancient world” as limited to the Mediterranean basin.
2. Inverting the Historical Narrative and Spotlighting the Periphery
- Challenging Centralized Narratives ([06:52])
- Reese intentionally inverts the traditional focus on empires’ “centers” (e.g., Rome) by foregrounding the lives, agency, and perspectives at the edges.
- “What I wanted to do in this book was to completely invert that. And the only way to do that was to pretty much dismiss the narrative from the center for what it is, which is a single perspective.” ([07:16])
- Case Study Approach
- The book consists of a series of case studies ("lots of different bits and bobs") rather than a singular narrative—prioritizing thematic depth and diversity over linear storytelling ([08:51]).
3. Case Study Selection and Methodology
- Selecting Sites ([10:24])
- Organic rather than rigid process; focused on locations with rich, varied evidence (e.g., Egypt’s preserved papyri, Hadrian’s Wall’s written tablets).
- Choice driven both by evidence and the desire to highlight omitted or marginalized cultures (notably Aksum in Ethiopia, ancient Vietnam).
- “Some of the case studies were driven by inquisitiveness ... others by thinking, ‘who’s missing from our narratives?’” ([12:24])
- Serendipitous Inclusion
- Example: inclusion of Koloa (Vietnam) sparked by hearing about it on a podcast, revealing fascinating parallels with other “peripheries” ([13:24]).
4. Sources and the Challenge of “Peripheral” Histories
- Balancing Literary and Archaeological Evidence ([17:02])
- Literary evidence provides context but is inherently center-focused and biased.
- Archaeology and non-literary sources (personal correspondence, artefacts) necessary for reconstructing the lives of “edge” communities, especially nomads.
- Approaching Nomadic Groups
- Used dual methodology: cross-referenced central narratives (Greek/Roman accounts) with archaeological data.
- Focus on “dispelling misconceptions that come from the central narratives” ([17:47]).
- Notable example: Herodotus’ shifting understanding and relative accuracy about the Scythians, as corroborated by recent archaeological finds, e.g., cannabis rituals ([19:41]).
- Innovations in trade: e.g., custom coinage at Olbia adapted to Scythian culture ([21:01]).
5. Destabilizing Ancient Binary Oppositions: “Civilized” vs. “Barbarian”
- Cultural Assimilation Is Bidirectional ([23:12])
- Examples include Scythian elites adopting Greco-Roman status markers and vice versa (e.g., coinage reflecting nomadic symbols).
- Nomads and Monumental Architecture ([25:30])
- Challenges stereotype: “Nomads don’t build anything.”
- Kenyan sites (Lake Turkana): nomadic pastoralists set up sacred monumental burial sites, disproving the need for strict hierarchy or settled life for monument-building.
- Reese: “This is monumentalism in action. And it’s a nomadic group...So what’s it there for? ... The important bit is, there is monumentalism right there.” ([27:34])
- The Scythian site of Bilsk (Ukraine): huge wooden fortifications possibly linked to nomadic peoples; questions stereotypes of nomads as rootless and non-architectural ([30:24]).
- “If you believe Scythians are there, they’re not moving about much and they’re building things.” ([38:21])
- Isotopic analysis shows supposed “nomads” traveled only ~70km in their lifetimes.
6. The Limits of Central Literary Evidence and Its Modern Legacy
- Roman and Greek Binary Construction ([39:52], [43:13])
- Roman narratives especially entrenched the civilized/barbarian binary, often using monumental architecture as a symbol of superiority.
- Freeman: “...the Scythian example of Bilsk destabilizes that entirely...when you start to interrogate [the binary] even a little bit, [it] completely ceases to make sense.” ([42:53])
- Nuance Within Ancient Cultures ([43:13])
- Reese cautions against seeing Rome or Greece as “monolithic minds” regarding foreigners.
- Humanizing Diasporic Identity
- Story of a Greek-Scythian youth at Olbia illustrates the complexity and fluidity of identity at the margins ([45:03]).
- “He speaks Greek, but his Greek’s a bit weird because he’s clearly got a dialect...it’s a very human story, but it jars with the narrative of Roman culture is this, you know, Greek culture is this...” ([44:53])
- Story of a Greek-Scythian youth at Olbia illustrates the complexity and fluidity of identity at the margins ([45:03]).
7. Contemporary Relevance of Studying the “Edges”
- Challenging Modern Myths of the “West” ([48:36])
- Reese seeks to expose the ahistorical idea that “the West” is a continuous, monolithic tradition going back to Greece and Rome.
- Migration, Multiculturalism, and Xenophobia
- Movement and cultural mingling are the default in human history; ancient multiculturalism is not a modern projection.
- “There’s intermingling culture. There’s multiculturalism because people move, people interact, people adapt. That is the human story.” ([52:13])
- Parallels to Modern Political Discourse
- Fear of the “other”—as seen in ancient sources—echoes in present-day politics (example: British right-wing parties strong in least diverse areas).
- “You can read [these tropes] from Roman writers 2000 years ago; nothing new.” ([51:45])
- Emphasis: “...when you look at what people actually are, interacting with other cultures, we don’t see this in the same way.” ([54:10])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Challenging Roman-Centric Narratives
- “To do that I had to abandon the idea that history has to be built on a singular narrative.” ([08:06])
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On the Selection of Case Studies
- “I picked 13 sites, I could have picked 13 more. It could easily have been replaced by more. So what makes these special? I just found them interesting.” ([14:40])
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On Herodotus’ Complex Portrayal of Nomads
- “...he's not as wrong as we thought he was. Sometimes he is very wrong, but he's not as wrong as we always thought he was.” ([18:43])
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On the Monumentalism of Kenya’s Nomads
- “They set up sacred ritualistic sites...this is monumentalism in action. And it's a nomadic group...” ([27:35])
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On the Limits of the “Civilized/Barbarian” Binary
- “If you believe this is a Scythian site, if you believe Scythians are there, they're not moving about much and they're building things. So either we accept the nomadic groups do that, or ... have to undo your own thinking.” ([38:21])
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On the Human Element of Diasporic Identity
- “[It’s] a very human story, but it does, it jars with the narrative of Roma culture is this, you know, Greek Culture is this...but not in all places.” ([44:53])
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On Modern Prejudices Echoing Ancient Narratives
- “You can read [these tropes] from Roman writers 2000 years ago; nothing new.” ([51:45])
Key Timestamps for Segment Navigation
- [01:22] Chronological/Geographic overview of the book
- [06:52] Theoretical inversion: Center vs. Periphery
- [10:24] How/why case studies were chosen
- [17:02] Methodological challenges; dealing with nomad history
- [21:01] Greek and nomadic interactions at Olbia
- [25:30] Monumentality and nomadic pastoralist sites (Lake Turkana)
- [30:24] The Bilsk site and megastructures in Ukraine
- [39:52] Civilized/Barbarian binary entrenchment with Romans
- [43:13] Complexity and diversity within “Greek” and “Roman” perspectives
- [45:03] Hybrid identities and assimilation at the Greek periphery
- [48:36] Contemporary relevance: migration and national narratives
- [52:13] Modern xenophobia and echoes of ancient “barbarian” tropes
Tone & Style
Throughout, the conversation is rich, thoughtful, and often gently subversive—full of curiosity, humor, and an insistence on nuance. Dr. Reese is candid about the book’s improvisational elements: “I would love to say I planned it out really thoroughly, but I did not.” ([10:24]) Both host and guest underscore the importance of challenging established narratives and bringing marginalized voices and regions into focus—not out of mere comparison to Rome or Greece, but for their own unique merits.
Conclusion
The Far Edges of the Known World and this episode encourage listeners to question deep-seated assumptions about ancient history: periodizations, civilizations vs. “barbarians,” and the nature of movement and multiculturalism. Reese’s work shows that the peripheries were sites of cultural richness, negotiation, and innovation, with lessons relevant to current debates on identity, migration, and belonging.
Recommended for further reading: Owen Reese’s The Far Edges of the Known World.
