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Wondry plus subscribers can listen to New Heights early and ad free, plus unlock access to exclusive episodes of the show. Join Wondery plus and the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify today. How did Space Jam come into play for you? About nine people said, you know, Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. Which is like, I get a kick out of saying this all the time. I pimp Michael all the time, whatever I can. But Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is nod. That's all you gotta do is nod. Cause it just means, you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number. Yeah, right. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wondery show produced by WaySports Entertainment and brought to you by DraftKings. That's right, the crown is yours. We've got an incredible best of episode for you guys today. We're gonna put together some of our favorite moments from our conversations with some of the biggest stars we've had on the podcast. You hear from Ben Affleck, Jason Sudeikis, Brad Pitt, Nisi Nash Betts, Will Ferrell, Bill Murray, Scott Van Pelt, and more. Remember, we'll be back with new episodes of New Heights just in time for the NFL season on Aug. 27. You won't want to miss it. Our guest is the one and only Sandman, Adam Sandler. Boys, so happy to see both you guys. Before we get off a Happy Gilmore, though, I was. I'm actually curious. I'm not familiar with how the original, like, thought process of the movie came. Came about. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I'm a little, I'm pretty curious, like, how, like, was it just you just messing around on a, on a golf course and it kind of connecting the dots or what it was. It was my dad, like I said, he liked golf. We used to go to the driving range a lot. And I had a. A great friend, Kyle McDonough who played, ended up playing pro hockey. A great hockey player in New Hampshire. It's a big hockey town. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. So. So Kyle came out with me and my dad and he didn't play much golf, but he was banging them. We were young, maybe ninth grade or something, something like that. And he was banging. And my father kept saying, man, you hockey players, there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that. And I just was like, I think I was in college or finishing up college or just maybe 23. And I thought, man, that'd be pretty funny. To see a guy with a hockey mentality have such a big hit that he gets on the tour. And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think? And he was like, yeah, it could be pretty good. We'll see. You know, we'll see. We'll see. But me and my buddy Herlihy, who I write all the movies with, we would write that, and we'd call my dad and say, does this make sense in golf, dude, when you putt, what do you think? Like, and it's all in the hips and stuff like that. That was my dad. I would say, oh, my God. What is it? He said, it's all in the hips, baby. It's all the hips. And that's why we wrote that shit, you know? Chubs. Absolutely legendary, man. As football players, we got to lead with this. How many football guys come up to you and talk about the waterboy, man? I hear Boucher a lot. Yeah. I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher. I have met. I've met a lot of great NFL fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's mama and. And foosball. Just foosball. Just foosball. Making sure mama don't find out I'm playing foosball. That kind of. We have, yes. Did you play? Did you play growing up? I played pop Warner till I12. I played till 12. I was a quarterback. As a quarterback in Pop Warner, I was playing baseball. And then I was a pitcher, and I was 11. And Ken. Ken Stillman, the coach of the team, came over and talked to my parents and said maybe Adam could be a quarterback. And my mother was like, oh, Adam doesn't play football. And my father was like, let him play. Because my father played football, actually. Okay. He was a linebacker. So then I got in there. I got on the team, played two years of Pop Warner, and it was. It was amazing. So cool, man. You told us about how Happy Gilmore got. How does. How did you create a Creole Southern so good? Like, where did this inspiration. I'm not sure if you heard us. We were literally like. I don't know how he didn't win more awards for this. This was ridiculously. This is before I had seen Life is Beautiful. Roberto Benini did a great job with that. He did very good. Yes. He. He stepped it up for that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I. I wasn't getting Oscars. I never thought of that stuff when I was doing Boucher. But. But I was. I couldn't believe It. It was like. We had this idea. A water boy gets picked on a lot. You know, a coach thinks he could be, you know, sees him throw a nasty hit and then says, maybe you should be on the team. That was kind of the. The. The idea. And we were like, let's. Let's make them from the south. Let's make them Cajun. And then we just went from there, man. We just. I don't know how it happened. We just filled out a script like that. So good. So good is. It probably felt right as it came together, too. You're just like, man, this is coming together so smooth because it's so start to finish. That thing is perfect. Oh, dude. I mean, we were so excited writing that. Thank. Thanks for all these compliments, guys. Honestly, I. I love you. I appreciate it. But. But. So I remember with the water boy, we wanted that he had a very protective mama and that. And that. There was this movie, Carrie. It was a terrifying movie, and it was an overprotective mom who didn't want her daughter to be around anything too heavy. And anyways, so we kind of wrote a mom like that that's overprotective to Bobby, and. And so he had to sneak around and play his foosball, and it's so good, man. That's right. 92% is. Please welcome Mr. Ben Affleck. What's up, introduction? We heard that you once got to run routes with Tom Brady. All right, what was it like? What was that like? Did you. How many completions did we get? What were you running? What kind of routes were you running? I won't lie to you. I don't know if they have a name. I'm sure I disgraced every receiver that's ever run around. But to this day, aside from the birth of my children, that was the greatest ever. I was like, dude, are you. He's like, I need someone to play catch with. Happened to be on vacation at the same place with him. And he was like, you want to come down? And I was like, oh, this was so. This was legit. This was as legit as it gets, that Tom, get ready for the season. Like, I don't know how much I was helping him. I think he was like. He was like, I'm gonna blow this dude work. And we literally got down there, and first he's like, you know, I'm gonna. He's like, okay, go out here. Turn around. Turn around. And I'm running fast as I can. Turn around. I. Look at me. Look. He's waiting 45 minutes, you know, guns the ball. Me, I'm like, I caught it because I was afraid he breaking my nose more than anything else. And then after a few of those, he's like, all right, I'll put some hair on it. I was like, no, no, no, it's already, it's already playing fast. Yeah, that was what I was about to ask you. That's what I was about to ask you. Did he actually spin it like he rips you a couple now? You know, what I found was that like, in a way, you catch it out of self defense. I didn't even think I was, you know. And I found myself with the football just like, yes, fight or flight reflexes. But the greatest moment of that experience was he was like, after we played, you know, he had me running around. I'm. You know, he stole me the ball and. And it was amazing, right? It was like a. Like I felt like a 10 year old kid. He's like, okay, come here. And I get to him, he's like, it's the Super bowl, fourth quarter. We have 23 seconds. It's fourth and 18 I was doing, man. He's like, just one, dude. This is. This is why he's the best. This is why he's the best. This is the mindset, dude. He was amazing, dude. He goes and just run straight. Don't turn around. And I was like, he's like, and I'm gonna get you the ball in the end zone. I was like, don't turn around. He was like, don't look back. So I, I'm like. And I believed it. Like, he told me. I was like, I'm in the super bowl now. What do you want to be? So he's like, look, look. Calls it out, you know, like it was. And I start running. I don't look back. I'm sure to him it seemed like this. He's like, I've never seen somebody run in slow motion to me. I was going to. Fast as you can go. Yeah. And I could keep it. I'm like wondering, when's this ball gonna show up? And I look, I just feel it, like right out in front of me. And it was a little far for me. I think he was like, he probably adjusted back. I reach out and I have to go off extend. I catch it. I turn around like I won the fucking score. He's running at me like this. It was incredible. I called everybody I knew for two days. I was on the. So called me. And I went down and got the. I Think they thought I was lying to them. That's what they got. But it was like the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. And I lived a full life of dreams right in that whatever it was hour of playing Cash. You had a real life fun. You had a real life sandlot moment. You were Smalls, dude. Just put that glove up there, boy. All right? I'm gonna get it to you in the end zone. I mean. And it's like when it felt like this is exactly what he looks like when it really is the super bowl, you know what I mean? Like, and he's one of those guys going back to the thing I like, I've often wondered because he seems so relaxed, like an oddly relaxed. I've often wondered if that's part of it. Like, just not, you know, when everyone else has that anxiety because it's, you know, whatever, 20 seconds to go in the fourth quarter. If you can have that, like, calm and that awareness, I think it's a huge, huge advantage. There's a story, I don't know if it's true about Joe Montana, that the super bowl threw the cash to White Clark. And the play before that, he got into the huddle and he was looking into the stands and they. And the team came back and they were like, what? He goes, he look over there. Is that John Candy? And they just like turn back around. But he was like looking over to be like, oh, shit, that's John K. All right, fuck it, let's go. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he was, he was just casual and I feel like that always made sense. If you've ever met Joe Montana, that's a smooth son of a buck right there. He's a cool cat, man. He's. He's a laid back dude. I believe it. Making his New Heights debut. Please welcome. It's the one and only little Dicky, baby. Yes, sir. What is your welcome to the industry moment? Another story I've never told that just came into my head that's perfect for this moment. Oh, my gosh. Celebrity basketball game. Ooh, Tell us. I don't know where. Somewhere in la. And much earlier in my career than I deserved to be. Like, when I looked at the lineup, it was like Floyd Mayweather, Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown, like John Wall. It was like stacked and I had no mainstream. I had like a couple of viral. I don't know how I got in the game to the point where I actually put a lot of stock and import in this game that I got there. An Hour early to warm up because I literally thought, like, a way that I could, like, get ahead in this, like, industry faster will be, like, scoring 30 points in this game and really dominance. Like, I literally went there because I was like, this is a big opportunity. This is my chance to, like, advance my career. This is my chance. And I am a. If I can somehow dunk on Snoop Dogg. And I've seen so many celeb games where I'm like, these guys suck. You know, and so I was excited to go there and really, you know, and a few things happened. One, I'm there warming up by myself, and Chris Brown walks in. He can. He can. First time I ever saw Chris Brown. And so I'm like, blown away by, like, just seeing him. He walks right up to me, and he goes, you're a dope rapper. And I was like. And it was so early in my. I would never expect him to know who I am and, like, to have, like, an icon in the music industry who has, like, countless, like, number. It's just like him saying that, to me meant everything. That was the impetus of Freaky Friday. Us meeting there. That's step one. That's, like, the least important part the story then. Okay. All right, then we play in. The game starts. I'm. I'm not in the starting lineup. Nowhere close. It's like, you know, it's the people I named. My coach is John Wall. The way he. Good coach. The way he. Well, not actually, because the way John Wall went about operating his team was he. He. He did five in, five out. So he had starting five. Then he just. So complete subs. Yeah, so I'm in the next five, he says. He tells me, grab Chris. Like, he. Chris Brown. Oh, no. So I go up to. By the way, every time Chris Brown touches the ball in this game, scores. No, it's just like. It's just like, scream. It's like. It's bizarre. Like. Like every time he hears the ball, it's like. You know when people boo in Philly, when they come back, when they, like when Harden gets the ball? It was like, the opposite of that. So I'm told to get Chris Brown. So I walk up to Chris and I go, like, yo, I'm in for you. And he goes, I'm not coming out. That's awkward. And then there's 11 guys on the court. Everyone is, like, matched up. Like, I'm clearly the odd. I look to John Waugh. Can you help direction coach? Like, and he goes. John Wall goes like. And he brings Me back over. First thing I say is, like, john, like, get a grip and, like, have some, like, authority on your team. This is, like, humiliating to, like, send me out there and then pull me back in. It's like, so emasculating. This is so good. And then, then they're playing and then I get in, like, the next five or whatever. I get in the game. I get in the game. I get the ball. I drive aggressively. I go up, I get to the rim. I get fouled so hard by Deontay Wilder, the, at the time heavyweight champion of the Dude. Like, everyone, like, everyone, like, the whole gym went like, like. Cause I thought, like, I, like, really got hurt. I, I, I didn't hurt that. I think the, I don't know. It didn't really hurt that much. I took it in the moment. Yeah. Oh, my God. I get up, I miss two free throws, and then I play one more meaningless minute. And then I just didn't even, I, like, moved to the end of the bench and just chose not to even make myself available for the rest of the game. But that was a real, like, there was like, several different moments in there that felt like, like, welcome to the industry. That was like the first time I think I ever, like, like, was on, like, giddy im, you know what I mean? Where there was like, get, like, watermarked images of, like, me talking to Snoop. Like, so good. That's amazing. Please welcome Bill Murray. Thank you, baby. Who's your favorite, I don't know, actor or person you've worked with in the film industry? You did Space Champ with Michael Jordan. I, well, he was probably the best shooting guard that I worked with. Larry, the best small forward. And actually Larry was the best. He was in that movie too. He was the best small forward. So good. That was fun. That was a very fun movie. We got to, we shot, we played golf in between scenes. It was a lot of fun. I don't want to go get too much into Space Jam, but it is one of the childhood favorites of ours and so many others, man. How, how did, how did Space Jam come into play for you? Were you, you just, like. Because you were so in the sports world as well, like your fandom and your, your ability to kind of dive into all these sports that did that play into getting the roller. So I knew Ivan Reitman, who I'd made a couple of movies with already. Ghostbusters and Stripes and Meatballs. He was a producer on. He was a Warner Brothers movie, I think, and they had to build a basketball court For Michael on the lot. And they built like a serious basketball court with a weight room. Yeah. And it was like the game. Like if you were an American basketball player, you had to suck your way into that game every night. And Michael would play after work when they were on location or on the set in the studio. And it was like a real serious wood floor gym and the whole deal. And that was a real, like every. If you. No matter what team you played for, you had to get into that game because that was who was who and who wasn't. That's so cool. But they. I don't know. I just like to say that about nine people said, you know, Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. Which is like. I get a kick out of saying this all the time. I like to pimp Michael all the time, whatever I can. But Michael really wants to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is nod. That's all you gotta do is nod. Because it just means, you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number. Yeah, right. I bet you if he sets his mind to it, he could find my phone. Yeah. Or he could find out where I live or even, you know, walk up on the street. Not a hard so. But basically that I know there are people like that in the world. And you'll meet them. That they. They feel like they never want to be indebted to anybody for anything. They don't want to owe anybody anything. So they'll have their people sort of ask something. Have you ever noticed this? Yes, of course. Yeah. So they'll have someone else ask for you. Yeah. So I knew exactly day one. I knew exactly what was coming here. I heard from everybody. I probably heard from like 13 different people. And the more people, the more I enjoyed it, because I knew. It's like that son of a. Is just twisting, knowing he's got to ask me himself. But it was good he finally did, God bless him. And it turns out the golf course. Where'd he find you? I don't really remember. I don't really remember. But it was good. I was glad I was there and I. I contributed to that movie. You had. You had to have gotten in at least one of the games. Oh, no, I. I had. No, no. I mean, I don't think I. I may have just only shot a basket before the game. That game was like. I mean, they were emptying prisons to get into that game. Never be allowed to play in the NBA that were playing in that game. There were just some amazing athletes. Wow. In that game. And like. Like the best high school players that try to show up there, and they just. Michael just kicked their ass. He just. Oh, I love it. People would come in there thinking they had game and Michael just murder him. He was. He was a killer. So we recently reviewed Roadhouse, the original Patrick Swayze film. Yes. There is a legend out there that you used to call the husband of Kelly lynch, who plays Dr. Clay. Anytime a particular scene came on with Patrick Swayze on the television. Is this rumor true? One of the hardest things I ever had to do was to call a friend. And. And at a late hour. I mean, very, very late. And not without some back and forth. Should I, shouldn't I, Should I, shouldn't I? And as a friend, you had to do it. I did not. I did not identify myself, but I just said, hey, as a friend, I think you should probably turn on TBS right now. Oh, God. Because that son of a bitch Pat Swacy is slamming it to your wife. Oh, my gosh. Swayze. Swayze, may he rest in peace, did a lot of wonderful things. A beloved guy. But that was wrong what he did. Dude, this is why you're. You're the legend. God, that's so good. That's why. Thank you for this gold, man. Ah. Who's wrong? It's wrong. It's the goddamn Terminator. That's right. We got. Arnold's watching Hager. Wow. Fire up, baby. That was fantastic. As long as Arie approves. I cannot believe it's the baby oil. You're supposed to be oiled up when you introduce me. That was great. That was really fantastic. I love the grandkids. I mean, she brings them over on the weekends. On Saturday. Yeah. And then, you know, I have, of course, the animals granddaddy, right? So I say, kids, you want to help me feed the animals? I said, let's go and feed Chaneli, which is my pig. And then the pig is. Now I got it. That the pig when it was like £16, now it's like a hundred pounds. I mean, I don't know what happened, but I think someone said every Saturday. So now that they're feeding Schnelly and they teach them how to put in his mouth and all of those kind of things. Then they go into the stall with me and they. They bring out the, you know, the miniature donkey, Lulu and Whiskey, the miniature pony. And then they feed them and they bring apples over and feed them and all this. How did you get into owning a miniature pony? Well, it's. It's Heather gave it to me. The miniature pony Heather. And no, not the. The pony is actually Catherine's, but the donkey Heather gave me. Okay. And so. So what happened was Catherine had this pony, and then all of a sudden, when she started getting interested in boys, all of a sudden the animals were out. Yeah. She didn't pay any attention. So I saw this pony down at the stall below where I live in some public stall and other horses and miniature horses and stuff like that. And so I said, well, I'm going to bring it up to my house because it's stupid to have this miniature pony down there and doesn't get any attention. I want to just have it walk around in the house, come into the house and stuff like that. Of course. So anyway, so that's what I did. I had this pony, and that's just. It walked around the house, and I fed it, and it was always fun. And then Heather said she needs a companion. So then Heather got me the, you know, the. The. The miniature donkey. And so now I have, you know, Lulu and whiskey. So the whiskey is the pony and the donkey is Lulu. And so they. But the question really. So when. You should see that, when they all come in in the morning, I mean, it's like the donkey is in there, the pony is in there, the pig is in there begging for food. The three dogs are in there. Everyone is sitting there on the floor and is waiting for the cookies because we're making this oatmeal cookies that have no sugar in it. It's just like honey. And some. Some, you know, oatmeal is in there, and a few things like that. So very, very healthy. And so we feed this. The animals, and they just sit there and. And they do anything you ask them to do. Yeah. If they get a cookie or with. With food, as, you know, with animals with food, you can really kind of. Right there. Yeah. Make them do anything. So anyway, when Katherine comes over with her kids and they play with the animals, like, for hours, they just love it. They just love it. And can I pick up cherries, which is the little dog that I have? And so then. Then Lila picks up cherry, and then Eloise picks up cherry, and then I want to hold Jerry. Can I sit on the donkey? Yeah, of course you can sit on Lulu. Then I put down Lulu, and this is how it goes. They're having a great time. That sounds like love. Talk about it, man. You can tell it's fun. All right, last question. If you were to reboot one of your movies and cast Each of us in a role, what movie, and who do you think we'd play? Oh, I would definitely do Conan the Barbarian. Imagine how real this is. I mean, you don't have to change anything. All you have to do is go on, go on a. No, you can put a wig on it. There was a partial week. Oh, okay. Yeah, partial week. But I mean, the, the thing is that they had also had short hairs. Short hair in those days. You don't have to do the, the long hair thing. But I mean, that would be fantastic. All you have to do is just learn how to horseback ride. And maybe you guys know how to horse. I've been bucked off every horse I've ever been on over here. That is the key thing, is to really get good in horseback riding. Okay. Because you know, when you do the sword fighting on a horse, you really, you cannot pay much attention to the horse. Yeah, the horse goes around the circle and does its thing, but you have to pay attention to the sword not to get whacked. So I mean, so that's, that's the thing. So I, I think if you take sword fighting lessons. I took three years sword fighting lessons in three years, horseback riding lessons and with all kinds of weapons and the martial arts and all this stuff. And it really was helpful to be that prepared when they did the movie. But that's the key thing. So if you do that, I mean, imagine you guys, that's it, three years with the big hammer, the big battles and all that stuff, riding there into the village, just wiping out everyone. Crush your enemies, see them even before you and hear the lamentation of their women. He's a two time winner of people's sexiest Man. He's robbed probably about 50 times. Brad Pitt. That's right, baby. I love the Eagles. Chief rivalry. You know, I'm a chief, so I'm a. I'm. Yeah. Hey, we got you this year, dog. We got you this year, man. I got you, man. We don't. We don't. I'll let you down. I'll let you down. Like, that's what I mean about life, you know, life. Life throws these struggles your way. Sometimes everything's falling into place and, and, and everything goes quiet and it's. And it's perfection. It's sublime. Sublime. In other days or other periods, life throws these struggles at you and it's how you deal with those and come back from those, I think that are what makes sports movies so special. But I do have a, I do have a confession. You know, I'M friends with Bradley cooper. Yeah, yeah. B.C. baby, he's your. He's your prime Eagles fan. That's right. And I'm not saying that I have the power to affect a game in any way. I don't. I don't adhere to that kind of hubris. But I did say last year, after the Eagles went out, Chiefs were on their way to another victory, and he was getting award for the maestro, still probably one of the best movies of this decade. And I was giving him this award, and he's been nominated like 18 times for Oscars. And. And I closed with. Now. Did you guys hear this one? No, no, no, no, no. Dude, I'm docked in right now. Santa at Santa Barbara Film Awards. I closed with. Listen, he's been nominated the 1900 time. You know, if he doesn't get it, it's okay. He's used to it. He's a Philadelphia Eagles fan. That laid the groundwork right there. He was happy this year. No doubt. Oh, you already know. We didn't talk for two months. Did he hit you up about it? Did he after the super bowl, did he gracefully let me hurt pro movie? Just let it sit there and burn? Yeah, that's too funny, man. You're known for constantly eating on the screen. Best food you've ever ate on camera. Damn. I don't know how I get this. Like, people eat in life. Yeah, right. Like, I think it was in oceans. And I figured he's always waiting around. He's. He's like the consigliere of the group. And he's always doing this and doing this, and he's got to eat on the run. That's all this. That's. That's where this came from. There was, like, thought behind it. That's too funny. And now anytime I eat in a film, like, I guess I'm a bit of a grazer, but yes. Okay. So that's my. Everything I've done. That's. That's. That's what I'm known for the best. I had an ice cream sundae. I remember an ice cream sundae. Big parfait thing on. Oh, I'll tell you a story. Hadn't thought. I haven't thought about this for years. One of my first movies. I'm doing this little independent film. We're shooting this little tiny cafe. It's full of the crew, so there's about 60 people in there. It's hot. You can't breathe. And my character hadn't eaten for days, and he gets his big plate of beans. First plate of beans and bacon. And I was all like, method. You know, I was like, do this right. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. And I just. And I pout. You know, I just power down this plate of beans. Take two, do the same thing. Take three. I do the same thing. I do the same thing. Oh, no. Something hit me. Oh, I know exactly what hit you. We all know what hit you. And there was nothing I could do. I was stuck in this chair and nature took its course. And then there was nothing. I went, oh, great. I got away with that one. And then suddenly the entire crew, the most diabolical something. Something descended on the crew in the whole room and they fleed the cafe. Fleed. So, hey, impression. You've heard first, right? Hey, that's great. And ever since then, I've. I paced myself beans to do it to you, baby. That's right. You should be proud. You clear a room. You clear a room. That's a. That was a. From an offensive lineman. You already know. That's a badge of honor. We had. We had. Oh, my gosh. Green all time sack leader. One of the. Up there with the steelers for a long time or. And then he was coaching the packers. Kevin grit on. He came in. He was coaching the d line. He came into the o line room to try and give us tips on how to block d line. He came in there. Guys are farting. Not you guys are. Those lineman suck. I'm out of here. He just left the room. We ask athletes this question all the time. But what was your welcome to hollywood moment? Welcome to hollywood moment? Okay, I'll tell you my welcome to hollywood moment. I was. I got my first little thing. It was on a like a little soap opera. And they. And my picture was in a like USA today. Okay. And this was a big deal sent to my mom and dad. Look, you know, look, ma, I made it. And it was with a friend. There was a girl he was really attracted to a couple of girls. And we went over to their apartment and we went through the kitchen, the back door, and I looked down the litter box and there was that picture with a big cat turd on it. Oh, big pitch, Dane. That sums it up. That's right there. Welcome to hollywood. And I've never forgotten that. Hey, 92 percenters. Hopefully you're enjoying your off season. I know we are here at new heights, but I want to take a quick second to say thank you to our partner for this episode. Draftkings While players are grinding through 2 a days battling it out for a final spot on the roster. You have a shot to survive something just as intense. 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Did you know, first of all, before I said the movie, did you know I was gonna say heavyweights? I had seen. I think I saw you had like a perkus power show. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Brett V. And I and I'd heard some, you know, rumblings that. That you guys were into it, which was pretty. Oh, into it. It was my life. It was. Listen, I was a heavyweight growing up. Jason, he didn't get fat until he went to office. We switched places. We switched places. So Jason is more newly founded into it. But so seriously, you were dealing with weight issues? I think I was, yeah. I was dealing with my. My love for honey buns. I think that's what I was kind of dealing with more. But no, I saw heavyweights and was like, oh, Man, Camp Hope is like, if there's a camp out there like that, I want to go to it. Just kids that can be fat together and hide candy in their beds and. Yeah. You know, kids that never, like, really lived up to the excellence of their brother and just the expectations that their parents set for themselves. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, are you kid. The blob was a go kart. Like, like, that was everything a kid wanted to do it. It was sort of. Yeah. Like a dream camp. But then, you know, this guy comes in. Good. Never really dealt with children before. Yeah. That's one of the funniest intros. It was really fun to do. We had a great time. I mean, I remember the summer shooting the movie very well. We shot it down in near Asheville, North Carolina. I'm still buddies with the guy who was my trainer when I was doing the movie, Mickey Marino. Shout out to Mickey, who's down in East Hendersonville. Yeah, it was just. But like. Yeah. Today, first of all, the fact that that was a Disney movie, it is kind of crazy. Yeah, that was. I chuckle at every time I see Disney across the top. Yeah. It's an edgy Disney movie for sure. It's not Little Mermaid. And I don't even think they were aware of it. The time. It was a different time. Right. It was pre social media. It was. I think there was less of a sort of a moment to moment awareness of, you know, if you're doing something right or wrong and all that. So it was, you know, and. And Judd Apatow and was producing it. Judd and I were friends and had been working together on a show we had done and had gotten canceled. And I had gone and directed a movie, my first movie. And he said, hey, we're going to go down. Steve Brills, the director, really funny guy. We're going to go down to Asheville and do this fun, you know, this camp company. You could play this, like, mean guy who, you know, is mean to these kids who are overweight and. And it seemed fun and funny in. I'm in. Yeah, it's right there. And it was like. And it happens to be Disney. Whatever. And I think they went off and they made the movie and Disney looked at it and was like, this isn't quite, you know, this down the middle for the Disney brand. And they kind of put it out there or whatever. And then that was it. You must have seen it on video, right? Oh, 100 years after it came out or something. 30 years old. Exactly. Yeah. But then it's later in the 90s, for sure. But, yeah, it never would have gotten made today. And why do you say that? I think just because. Because the character is being so mean to these kids who are dealing with weight issues that. That I don't think. But don't you think that's getting off the drawing board? I understand, but I feel like the movie also inspired more people that were overweight. Like, it really ends up something that most of the people that I knew that were overweight or it was like a healthy relationship with that at the end of the day. I do agree that Tony was not the nicest to the kids. No. I think Tony is dealing with his own weight issues. Oh, for sure. And his own feelings towards his parents. And also that he's a kid who never. He never interacted with other kids and he wants to be famous. And I feel for Tony. I feel like he's the most sympathetic character in the world. Where did Tony come? Like, where did you find him? Is there any inspiration? There was a little bit of Tony Robbins in there. Tony Robbins, the motivational guy. Just in terms of the voice and how he talks and his kind of weird sort of like he, you know, Tony Robbins had this thing where he gets sort of like. Yeah, he could kind of like hypnotize you with his eyes. Yes. And I don't know. And then we just sort of like, played around. And it's funny, like, because I look back at clips. I saw a clip, like, behind the scenes on it, and I was like, God, we were so young back then, too. Just like kind of just doing it, you know what I mean? And just kind of going for it and you don't really think about. And the kids were so much fun. And it was, you know, kind of like every day we were just in my. My folks were in it playing my parents. So cool, man. We had. We had just had. Had the best time. Somebody sign your checks? Oh, yeah. Don't let any advice I ever got. So I guess how much of that movie was of Tony was being scripted and how much of that is you off the cuff just ripping it. Yeah. I don't remember. I think like, we were. We were improvising all the time. It sort of. I feel like there were some improv moments there, I think. Like that little moment where Tony goes and talks to himself when he's weighing the kids. Brought this up. It's my favorite scene in the music. Bad. Yeah. Why you. Well, everything's falling down around me there's nothing I can do about. I'm sorry, I don't want to. Do your best. Yeah. Everything's falling down around me. There's nothing I can do about it. Well, you know, whose fault is it? It's not my. It's not my fault. It's their fault. That's right. It's their fault. The thing that's kind of funny to me about that scene is it was. It was improvised. But, you know, if you've ever been in therapy or gone to therapy, that's, you know, a lot of people talk about talking to your inner child, you know, and finding your inner child, connecting with your inner child. And in over the years, I have. I've been in a therapy session where the therapist says, like, you should go, like, let's talk to your inner child. And I literally feel like I'm just doing a scene from heavyweight therapy. So I always feel like it's just. This is kind of silly because I've literally done this in a movie where it actually made sense that Tony was able to talk himself into understanding that he is not the problem, they are the problem. And he helped himself. So in a way, it's a very healthy connection that he's having, you know, with himself, maybe not with the kids. No. And. And I think, you know, the kids also, like, you know, let's face it, the kids were cheating. They should have been following the rules. Right. It's an interesting way to reevaluate this movie. They were the problem. They were the ones hiding candy. Come on. Yeah. You're not hustling. You go to a camp where you want to lose weight, you got to play by the rules, Right? It's like when you guys show up at training camp, right? If you're not going to put the work in right, nobody's going to be able to force you to do it. Right. You got to have the mindset. Yeah. I definitely go to Chick fil a during camp, though. I'm not gonna lie. 92% of strength to take himself. Will Feral is here. Oh, my God. So epic. Best intro. Best intro ever. Best intro ever. I've been just so curious about this. When did you become a DJ? The video of you DJing at the frat party might be one of my favorite. You've. You've now inspired me to want to become a DJ and do exactly what. You made this shit look so fucking fun. I don't know if. I don't know if you want to. I don't know if you want a real peek behind the curtain or not, but I don't know how to dj. Yeah. It was just all set up by my son and he was like, dad, can you come? It's parents weekend. Can you come by the fraternity house and I'll just set it up and you just have to twist knobs and pretend like to push buttons. Yeah. So I just acted the part. But I. No, look at. That's insane. That's insane. I, I, I still, I still forget that people have cameras attached to their phones. I don't know if you guys ever feel that way, but I'm like, I still, sometimes I'm like, so good. The fact that you could just turn that switch off, though, man, not, not care about it. That's the best, that's the best part. And that was that made. I sent that to everybody that I knew. I shoot, I shoot it up for 15 minutes. And then I went to the football game. I didn't think twice about it. And then Monday it like blows up and I'm thinking, what? Wait, what? Oh, right. All these kids were filming it anyway, so. Good. It's just, it's fun to just kind of, I just love kind of doing those kind of out of the box things just to, just to mingle with people and. Well, we love it when you do it too, big dog. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Thank you. So something we do on the show is answer voicemails from our fans and we've asked them to call in asking for relationship advice. Because who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads? Would you like to help us on these? Oh, sure. You want to jump in? Let's do it, man. Here's the, here's the thing. You could answer some of these questions as one of, one of your characters, maybe. Okay. Yes. Oh, I'm so excited. Brandon. Brandon. Oh, Brandon. Hey, Travis. Hey, Jason. Big cheese fan. Repeat. Coming. Just wanted to know your advice for a first date. When you should know those red flags and when to look for the green flags. Go, chief. Red flags, green flags. When to look for the red flags. When to look for the green flags. I see. Ricky Bobby would say, look, I don't know anything about red flag or green flag. You just gotta, you just gotta get yourself into a position to look for the checkered flag. Because, I mean, there's only one thing you need to worry about. I mean, if you ain't first, you're last. Baby. I would just tell that young lady, look for the checker flag. You gotta, you gotta find your way to the finish line, guys. I Don't know if that's good advice or bad. It sounds like bad advice. I think it's kind of metaphorically. It makes sense. You gotta find your way to the finish line. Yeah. You know, I loved it, man. That was gold. That was so good. So good. That could have gone any better. All right, here we go. Next one. What we got. All right, Jason and Travis. So what do I do? Whenever I bought this girl tickets to a concert for Christmas and she dumped me the week before, now her best friend wants to go with me. Do I take her or no? Do you take the best friend after the tickets you bought for your girlfriend, she dumped you. Wait, I want to make sure I understand. Do you take the best friend of the girl? Yes. After. Yes. So. So the girlfriend dumped him, and now the best friend wants to go with. Well, Ron Burgarty would say, of course you take the best friend because you teach that young lady a lesson. You're not going to be some horse's ass. You've spent twelve hundred dollars going to, I don't know, whatever concert, whatever music you listen to nowadays. I don't know if it's Kaja Gugu or Duran Duran or whatever it is, but you send a signal to that young lady that you're not messing around. I agree more, Ron. You take photos of you and the best friend making out and send it back to the old girlfriend and say, that's how I do it. That's how you roll right there, baby. That was gold, man. So good. That's why you're the greatest of all time. Oh, my goodness. Ms. Niecy, when you were with Mama Kelce, was that your first Chiefs game you'd ever been to? Very first. But wait, no, let me take that. Lie back, because I saw y' all play against each other. You were at the Super Bowl. I was at that game on the Super Bowl, Yeah. I saw you guys play against each other. Matter of fact, I had to hook up that. So I walked out on the field. I walked out on the field, huh? And my sister told me. She said, I don't care what you do. You put on an all green outfit and you represent me. And so. So you were Eagles. I had on my green sweatsuit. I was up there doing this. Fly, Eagles, fly. I had my green sweatsuit on me. Jb, my son, we all showed up. Yeah. And, yeah, so I got to see you both play together in that game. And then I like to not think about that game. Maybe I've done some roles and I'm like, God, I wish it would go away. But then we all came to see Travis, and let me tell you something, Travis. So we go to the game right out here in la, and he was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player. He's like, you know, I don't know if, you know, I'm a, you know, if we gonna take pictures and stuff. Cause I'm so focused. I'm like, okay. Then he came out there with that stupid mustache, trying to act like he came out there with that stupid mustache, trying to, you know, he was all on the field and. And all his boys was like, yo, there go your girl right there. There go your girl right there. He gonna look over. He was like. I said, I respect your process. I'm just giving you a heart. Oh, I love it. I love it too. It's so good. I totally respect your process. You know what I mean? I appreciate it. You gotta stay in the zone and you gotta do what the people who. Who paying you want you to do. So I'm not tripping about that. I was more offended at the Mustang. It's gone now. It's gone now. I see you finally back to looking decent. Exactly, exactly. I was, I was. You never know. I might have just been, you know, having that look for another role or something, you know. Okay, Hollywood over here. All right, so when you. When you were at the game with mom, what was it like? Yeah, you saw Mama Kelsey at the game too? Do you like watching football games? I do. It was so much fun. She was lovely. She had her homegirl with her, and we all took pictures together. And then, you know, you run with a great group of guys, you know, I appreciate that. And they all came and checked on us. You good? You need this, you need that. Then we went over to your podcast, had a sweet. Oh, nice. We got our. We got our podcast swag from over there. They treated you, right? Oh, yeah, everybody treated us. So that was. That was Mama Kelsey. She said, we're going over to the. Come on, come on. Oh, yeah, you're part of the family over there with her. Yes. And got us some swag and all the good things. So everybody really took such good care of us. We had great seats. Thank you. Oh, always. You know it. You know, I had to hook it up. Yeah, it was a really good time. I mean, I would do it again for sure. Yo, it's your man, Nick Cannon. And we are back with a brand new season of we playing spades. And to the left of me is the best of me, the one and only, my bestie, Courtney B. And you know what the B stands for? Beat your ass. And that's exactly what we doing right here this season. Because we play in spades is back and better than ever. That's right. So make sure you hit the subscribe button on YouTube. They gave us our own YouTube channel. It's we playing spades. Bo bo bo bo bo Spade. Before the Internet ruled our lives, AOL brought America Online with email and Instant messenger. By 2000, AOL was so powerful, it was bought media giant Time Warner. This was a deal that was supposed to bring us into the future, revolutionize media. 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And I would say more than occasionally. Yeah, but some of our favorite stories actually come from you, our listeners. That's why we created Armchair Anonymous. Yes, every Friday on Armchair Anonymous, we get to hear your funniest, weirdest, most jaw dropping confessions. And boy, have you delivered. Yeah. From disastrous dates to family secrets of the time you accidentally joined a cult or evacuated without authorization. We really have heard it all. Yes, we have. And we love it. So come, pull up a chair, follow Armchair Expert on the Wonry app or wherever you get your podcasts. And subscribe to armchair expert on YouTube. Starring in the Emmy award winning show, Ted lasso, please welcome Mr. Jason Sedan. We already talked about you playing basketball. Talked about SNL and host and stuff. Who's. Who's better in their respective fields? Are you better as a basketball player or is LeBron better as an SNL host? Wow. You play. You both played. You played in the All Star Game with him. He played on SNL with you? Yeah. Look as an SNL host, he's a hell of a basketball player. Yeah, Brian. No, I love that. I mean, we need you and LeBron one on one on the basketball court and then we need you one on one on the SNL stage, in broad stage. Like that. We did characters that Bill and I did a couple times where I play like a stagehand who is just kind of a dick to people. We did to Julia Louis Dreyfus. We did it with Paul Rudd, and we did with LeBron. And I challenged him to one on one in the sketch and in rehearsal. In rehearsal I did go by him and then went up and he didn't know I was going to go do a reverse layup. And I did score on him on an eight foot goal. And he was actually trying to like. Yeah, he was 100. Oh, yeah, yeah, he was definitely turn that off. But. And it was funny because Don Roy King, who was, who was our, our director at the time, who I just saw at the 50th, came up and literally brought it up. He goes. He goes. If you ever need someone to, to like, you know, vouch for this, vouch for this. I did. I know it happened. I was like, thank you. So here it is. It. It kind of sucks to be the one telling the, the, this, you know, keeping this, this apocryphal story alive, you know, I'd prefer it to be someone else, but. Well, now us two knuckleheads keep spreading this. We'll spread it. We'll spread it. No, he was going to catch some legs. He was. I mean, he went for it. I can't believe he hadn't come back to do it again. He was so good, man. It was so good. The Solid Gold dancer. Come on. Come on now. It was great. And Maverick. Maverick. Maverick badass. I remember Maverick sitting at the Host dinner on Tuesday night. You know, when you go out with Lauren, everything. Maverick sat next to Lauren and just was just grilling him the whole time. The whole time. And I was like. I remember sitting across from him. I was a child. Yeah. And like a baby seat. But he was. I didn't say anything to any. It was like. It was like. It was like, you know, Michael Corleone talking to John Corleone. It was like, fantastic. I was like. I was like, lebron is. I didn't, you know, I didn't know who he was at that point. I was like, lebron's so lucky to have this dude. This guy's got his buddy's back, like big time. And asking Lauren, these questions. Lauren was so fascinated, but it was. It was great. It was just like watching, you know, an icon and to be just kind of like, you know, just. Just. Yeah, it was. He was just a curious, smart dude. Yeah. Those guys. Good on him, you know, just a bunch of Cleveland guys. Yeah. That's all. How much would you have. Would your life have changed if you would have been accepted into the Blue man group? I had 100. I. I don't know. I mean, everything, you know. Yeah. So, I mean, I was obsessed with that show, and. And. And I. I, like, I loved it. It was the opportunity. I felt, oh, this will be the only chance I'll ever get to play music in front of people. And. And I wasn't a good enough drummer. I love the show. I think it's so funny. I think it's so brilliant, and I think it's so, like, subversive. I mean, it's all these things, you know, they. They just closed the show recently in New York, which is where I ended up. You know, I auditioned in Vegas and then got flown out there. Right. This was August of 2001. So this is right before 9 11. And. And it was. And I had dudes, buddies of mine that were in Blue Man Group in Vegas because they took a lot of our improv classes. They. So I guess we got to know them. Our shows hung out a lot, like, both, you know, off stage and, like, you know, at each other's houses. You know, I got. And. And it was. It was an amazing, amazing time because we were like this different kind of show. We. That was sort of finding its way in. In Vegas, like, the ones that interacted with the audience and not just, you know, showgirls or, again, icons or magic. It was like this. This weird kind of thing. I remember so many, a handful of them when I was really. It would sort of take me aside and be like, do you really want to do this? Like. Like, you're really good at talking. Like, it's kind of your thing. And I was like, yeah, no, I don't care. I want to do this. I think it's so neat. And. Yeah, but it would be. I mean, gosh, I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't have my kids. I wouldn't. You know, there's a whole bunch of stuff that'd be different. I'd have. I'd be. Every time I blow my nose, blue stuff would come out. My eye boogers would be blue. You know, like. Yeah, who. Who. Who knows? I'd be a Much better drummer than I am. You know, my rudiments would be solid, but. Well, did you have to paint yourself for the audition? Not for the, for when you. When there's got to be a pig. I wish we. There's got. There's no way. There isn't. And here's you dressed up like that and didn't get a pig. I know, but when you wear, when you wear all the same color, like iPhone. So, yeah, we had, we had a disposable camera because we, when you, they. They put you up in this, like, dorm. It was on like 13th Street. And these like, like minded, like, you know, all of us were like six foot one white guys and, and, and majority of it. Like, if there was 10 of us, I would say nine of them were, you know, musicians first or eight of them were musicians first. And. And I was more of an actor with like, like. And I had been literally practicing on like a drum pad during intermissions at my Second City show or in between shows. Driving my castmates crazy, I'm sure. And. And yet everybody had this, like, fun spirit. And we're all in New York flying in from other places. And we. I remember we boug disposable camera because we got bald and blue, as they say it. You know, they do a bald cap and the, and the whole thing and the, the cobalt blue and. And so somewhere, I don't know what happened to that disposable camera because you got cut like after three days, five days, seven days. I imagine it's like, you know, being in a combine or like in a camp. American Idol. It really was. Yeah. And I got cut after three days and they were, they were like, if he. He could be a blue man if he worked on his drumming. And then, then I go home kind of defeated. And then, you know, a few weeks, you know, later, you know, 9, 11. And then it was like, then that sort of like rattled us all like, okay, what do you love? What do you. What do you really want to do? And Second City at that point. So I never, never auditioned again. But. But there's. Yeah, there's a camera out there. But I know when I saw myself in the mirror, I looked at myself and no, I'm not. This isn't even like humility. I was like, I look like a blue peanut. Eminem. See my cheekbones? You couldn't like, my feature any features that I have on my face just, Just got washed out. And I just look like a. Like all the dudes that I was friends with all look like male models. And I was like, oh, I think maybe this. I thought that if I wore this, I'd look as cool as they do. It's like, no, Jace, they look like that out of the makeup. I look. It looked like an upside down blue peanut. M m. It was horrible. So, yeah. He's an eight time sports Emmy nominee and the voice of the first two days of the Masters. Please welcome Mr. Scott Van Pelt. Yeah, baby. Thank you. You tweeted this at the New Heights account. Please elaborate. How close did you or Mark Schlerith come to your pants on air? Okay, so. All right, let's just say Mark Schlair shout to stink. My guy, I taught him how to, to tie his tie and, and like, it should have been a sports commercial. I taught him how to get that great dimple in the middle of his tie. And he. To this day we, we love laughing about that. But this was a, this was a story. Show me a man who says he has to shit his pants. I'll show you a liar. Has it happened on air? I explained. Mark Schlierith is familiar with it. So there was a day where I was having a rough day. Had a little. Had a little bubble. Little gurgle in the belly, a little bad tummy. Yeah. And I'm said to stink, buddy, there's a decent chance that while we're sitting out here, I might shit my pants. And stink says to me, that's fine, it's fine. You just need to put some leaves in the gutter. I'm like, excuse me, you don't know leaves in the gutter? I'm like, what's leaves in the gutter? It's like you just take a big giant ball of toilet paper and you ball it up and you put it in your ass crack. And then while you're. And then while you're sitting there, you know, in your boxers, you just, you got. It's basically like a. Like a diaper of sorts. You're just making a. Because I wasn't gonna full on my pants. It was gonna be just a short kind of a moment. Just that, that. Is this a fart? Oh, it's hot. No, that wasn't a fart. And so I had leaves in the gutter. And then that night. This gets better. We were doing. He's there to do analysis on say, the Thursday night game. For argument's sake, it's the Steelers and the Bengals. I don't remember. But I said, because a lot of what we do are inside jokes. I said, you know, stank tonight. The Steelers defense, man, they, they bought, they really, they bottled up that run for the Bengals like leaves in the gutter and and stink barely can get through the segment because I'm talking about the balled up toilet paper in my butt crack that he share with me. And I'm happy to say I did not need the leaves in the gutter. But fellas, maybe ladies, when in doubt, if you need to go leaves in the gutter, there's a pro tip from Mark Schlerith to me to you. And that's the story of how Scott Van Pelt almost shit his pants on tv. All right, that wraps up the best episodes of New Heights. 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