Bye Week Baseball, Eagles ‘Constipated Offense’ and Defending Kickers with Pat McAfee | Ep 105

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce - Episode 105 Summary

Release Date: October 16, 2024

Introduction

In Episode 105 of "New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce," hosts Jason and Travis Kelce welcome special guest Pat McAfee for an engaging discussion on various NFL topics, including the Eagles' offensive struggles, the impact of bye weeks, and the nuanced roles of kickers and punters in football. The episode seamlessly blends game analysis, personal anecdotes, and insightful conversations, offering listeners a comprehensive view of life both on and off the field.

Guest Introduction: Pat McAfee [01:36 - 02:43]

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic introduction of Pat McAfee, a renowned media personality and former NFL punter. Jason and Travis express their admiration for Pat's transition from the gridiron to media, setting the stage for a dynamic and informative conversation.

NFL Game Recaps and Analysis

1. Eagles vs. Browns:
   Jason and Travis delve into the Philadelphia Eagles' recent victory over the Cleveland Browns, discussing defensive improvements and offensive inconsistencies.

   • Jason Kelsey [37:05]: "Defense played so much better, and offensively it was sporadic but took a win always helps."

2. Bills vs. Jets:
   The conversation shifts to the Buffalo Bills' matchup against the New York Jets, highlighting Travis's tailgating experience and the electrifying atmosphere at Yankee Stadium.

   • Travis Kelsey [15:30]: "It was an exciting game at Yankee Stadium, and being a Cleveland kid there had mixed feelings."

3. Other Notable Games:
   The hosts touch upon various other games, including performances by the Packers, Cowboys' home struggles, and the Ravens' formidable defense.

   • Jason Kelsey [49:14]: "They've struggled to stop the run all year, especially against teams like the Ravens and Detroit."

Eagles' 'Constipated Offense' [39:20 - 43:01]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the Eagles' so-called "constipated offense." The term, coined by player Lane Johnson, reflects the team's difficulty in establishing a consistent offensive rhythm.

• Travis Kelsey [39:20]: "Lane just can pull that out of his ass. The constipated offense, great line."
• Jason Kelsey [39:22]: "It's accurate. It feels disconnected and out of rhythm."

Jason and Travis discuss factors contributing to this issue, such as game planning, execution, and player accountability. They also highlight standout performances, like A.J. Brown's impactful plays, while acknowledging areas needing improvement.

Pat McAfee on Kickers and Punters [54:26 - 85:35]

Pat McAfee engages in an in-depth conversation about the specialized roles of kickers and punters in the NFL, emphasizing their crucial yet often underappreciated contributions.

• Pat McAfee [66:31]: "It's easy to play catch, but kicking is a whole different ballgame."
• Jason Kelsey [73:42]: "How about some of the bruisers from the league?"

The trio explores the challenges kickers face, including the pressure of game situations and the technical aspects of their roles. Pat shares personal anecdotes, such as his infamous field goal attempts and the physical toll of punting.

Media Career Insights with Pat McAfee [83:01 - 91:23]

Pat McAfee discusses his transition from the NFL to a successful media career, offering valuable insights into balancing sports and media endeavors.

• Pat McAfee [84:18]: "We're in here full-time, trying to keep up with everything happening in the sports world."
• Jason Kelsey [89:07]: "How about that? Let's hand the ball off. Get this guy Breeze hall involved."

Pat reflects on his experiences with shows like "College GameDay" and his involvement with WWE, highlighting the importance of leveraging opportunities during an NFL career to pave the way for future endeavors.

Trick Plays and Game Situations [77:32 - 85:13]

The discussion transitions to the strategic use of trick plays in football, including fake punts and field goals.

• Pat McAfee [75:47]: "Anytime I got an opportunity to do something to help the team, like any of those fakes or onside kicks, that's a turnover."
• Travis Kelsey [78:45]: "We'll do some fun stuff on Thursday practices during the specialist period."

Jason and Travis share their experiences executing trick plays, such as fake field goals, and the impact these plays can have on game momentum. Pat offers his perspective on the importance of creativity and unpredictability in football strategies.

Off-field Activities and Tailgating Stories [10:29 - 32:12]

The hosts recount their recent tailgating adventures, detailing interactions with fans, unique food experiences, and memorable moments from various games.

• Jason Kelsey [23:04]: "I had to spend time with Harold Carmichael, instrumental in helping young players acclimate."
• Travis Kelsey [24:06]: "I had my first jerk beef and even tried some jerk pasta."

These stories provide a glimpse into the camaraderie and culture surrounding NFL tailgating, highlighting the sense of community among fans and players.

Notable Quotes and Highlights

Throughout the episode, several memorable quotes underscore the hosts' insights and humor:

• Travis Kelsey [39:20]: "A constipated office. I mean, that shit's in there, man."
• Pat McAfee [66:31]: "It's easy to play catch, but kicking is a whole different ballgame."

These quotes encapsulate the candid and entertaining nature of the conversation, making the episode both informative and enjoyable.

Conclusion and Final Thoughts [116:34 - End]

As the episode draws to a close, Jason and Travis express their gratitude to Pat McAfee for his participation and insights. They reiterate the importance of passion and dedication in both sports and media careers.

• Jason Kelsey [116:14]: "Thank you so much to Pat McAfee for coming on. I can't tell you how electric that was."
• Travis Kelsey [116:29]: "Pat McAfee, ladies and gentlemen. You're the greatest dog."

The hosts sign off by encouraging listeners to subscribe, follow on social media, and take advantage of exclusive content through Wondery+.

Key Takeaways

• Eagles' Offensive Challenges: The term "constipated offense" aptly describes the Eagles' struggle to maintain offensive momentum, necessitating strategic adjustments.

• Role of Kickers and Punters: Kickers and punters play pivotal roles in football, requiring specialized skills and facing unique pressures that are often overlooked.

• Media Transition: Pat McAfee's successful shift from the NFL to media underscores the importance of preparing for life beyond football by leveraging opportunities during an athlete's career.

• Community and Culture: Tailgating stories highlight the deep-rooted community and cultural aspects of NFL fandom, emphasizing the bond between players and fans.

Final Thoughts

Episode 105 of "New Heights" offers a rich blend of game analysis, personal stories, and expert insights, making it a must-listen for NFL enthusiasts. The candid conversations between Jason, Travis, and Pat provide a unique perspective on the intricacies of football, both on the field and in players' personal lives.

Transcript

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Pat McAfee]

You said for years I've been thinking about this. That's what you said for years, everything. We've been talking about this. Yeah, you've been laying at night thinking like, I need to get this into a show somehow.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, gosh.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is why you did the the college game day you got. You're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason, do you think you can kick a field goal? Bingo.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know what? I don't know if my hips got me in it. We might have to find this out.

[Travis Kelsey]

Welcome back to New Heights, lad and gentlemen, a wonry show produced by Wave sports and entertainment and brought to you by Peloton. Hey, I bound it. All right. Find your push, find your power. With Peloton, we are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey. Coming off the by week, Cleveland Heights High School alum Cincinnati Bearcat alum. The Bearcats got back on the winning track getting after UCF this weekend. Shout out to the Bearcats, right. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube 1Drew+ or wherever you get your podcast, follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s. And Jason, you're now going to tell the people what we got coming up.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, we got another incredible episode lined up for all you 92 percenters. We're going to talk about both our weekends out of the house. The Eagles big win against the Brownies. And we're going to be joined by a very special guest who's definitely going to destroy me for my take on getting rid of kickers.

[Travis Kelsey]

Absolutely ridiculous.

[Jason Kelsey]

But yeah, it's the one and only the yinzer himself, Pat McAfee.

[Pat McAfee]

Ha.

[Jason Kelsey]

We got him. We've been waiting for this one for a long time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Love, Pat, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, probably most legendary media person out there right now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude. So good.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just ridiculously talented.

[Travis Kelsey]

I cannot wait to talk to him about this last one. This one in Eugene, Oregon, over this past weekend. He got everybody to start cheering, singing along to shout and oh, my gosh, was it amazing. I. I literally started singing along as I was watching the video. Got goosebumps. It was like, man, that had to be rocking. You make fun, man. It's so cool watching.

[Jason Kelsey]

No matter what he does. You're having fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

Exactly.

[Jason Kelsey]

Before I get crushed by probably the most legendary kicker to play the game at this point, let's get a little bit of that new, new news. All righty. Are you smarter than a celebrity Premier? That's right. Travis's brand new show, are you smarter than a celebrity? Debuts today, October 16th on Prime Video.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, it's today.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's today. Well, tomorrow, but today I'm terrified.

[Travis Kelsey]

Terrified what people are going to say it is. I had so much fun doing. Are you. Are you smarter?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. You were telling me about this. There's a lot of good.

[Travis Kelsey]

So much fun, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

So the thing I didn't. I thought. So the celebrities aren't the contestants, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

No. Right.

[Jason Kelsey]

The contestants on the show, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nicole Beyer, Chad Oinko.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yep. Natasha Leggero.

[Jason Kelsey]

They're not the contestants. They're the ones that are assisting the contestants with the answers. Right. Like it's the old are you smarter than a fifth grader? Where they're the ones, they're playing A lot. Have to decide whether they're going with that answer, whether they're doing their own answer In.

[Travis Kelsey]

In some. There are a few twists to this game and I do a great job of describing it in the episodes. So you just gotta. Yeah, you turn that thing on, you'll. You'll get caught up to all the rules and regulations that we got going on with the celebrities and how the celebrities can help you out.

[Jason Kelsey]

Amazon did actually send us a couple clips from the show. Oh, yeah, there's one where you learn what a BBL is.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, I don't know if I.

[Jason Kelsey]

Know what a BBL is, so let's check out this clip. My man Fitzy.

[Travis Kelsey]

If I lose my glutes, I'll just go get one of those. You know you're playing for $100,000. Ooh, Kelsey. I do. I do.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

If you win that money, what are you gonna do with it?

[Jason Kelsey]

You really want to know, Kelsey?

[Travis Kelsey]

Of course I do. Who doesn't want to know?

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey, I'm going. Oh, a bbl.

[Travis Kelsey]

Kelsey.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm trying to drag a wagon.

[Travis Kelsey]

What? I didn't. I didn't hear it say that one. Can you tell the audience what a BBL is? Bbl.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know what a BBL is?

[Travis Kelsey]

A bigger butt. Oh, a bigger butt. What's the l. What? It's a bbl.

[Jason Kelsey]

Brazilian butt lift.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, the bbl.

[Jason Kelsey]

I did not know that's what that was called. You're welcome. Well, she gets me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, there you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, there you go.

[Travis Kelsey]

The old Brazilian butt lift. I know. I know where to go if I lose my glutes. Coach Reed starts seeing. Seeing these glutes getting a little saggy. I'll just go get a BBL and lift these things up.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I ain't go. All you gotta do is do some RDls. Just get a little bit of. Get some squats in. Get them glutes. You see all the girls are doing it on the inside.

[Travis Kelsey]

She said I'm trying to drag a wagon.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a fan of the bbls. Not a fan of the bbls.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don't be. Listen, man, it looks okay.

[Jason Kelsey]

It looks okay for like a couple of years maybe, but then that thing just starts sagging. It looks like you got a diaper on the backside of you. It's not a good look.

[Travis Kelsey]

It doesn't happen like that all the time.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes, it does, bro. I'm not a fan of the bbl. I'm not on.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm trying to give everyone to benefit the doubt.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just do some glute bridges.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't get the worst.

[Jason Kelsey]

You can build the wagon. Naturally. You don't need the synthetics. Unless you got Kelsey jeans, But then.

[Travis Kelsey]

You got a big fucking, like, stiff ass back there. Yeah, you got a big hard ass.

[Jason Kelsey]

But when you're not clenching it. It's still. It's still got some. Some juice. I don't know. I'm not a. Yeah, I'm not a fan of them.

[Travis Kelsey]

Me neither.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just doesn't have the right shape. It just looks bad when your hamstrings don't match. When the hamstrings don't match your ass, it doesn't look good. I'm just being like. It's not a. You can't just add to the ass.

[Travis Kelsey]

And then your hams got to go in there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hammies.

[Travis Kelsey]

That ain't right.

[Jason Kelsey]

Small calves, small hamstring in a wagon.

[Travis Kelsey]

We can't do this.

[Jason Kelsey]

You got bad circulation where all your fat deposits are just accumulating in your ass. This seems like this is an unhealthy thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, well, there you go, kids. Outside of learning what a BBL was, it was a fun show. And I never, never in a million years thought I was ever going to ever be an actual host of a game show. I always thought it was going to be fun to, like, maybe go on one of the game shows.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

And then somebody asked me, do you want to host it? I was like. I mean, I guess I used to, like, mimic all the game show hosts as a kid, like, just around. And I love. I love the game shows, for sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

We used to watch the game show network all the time. Family Fuse.

[Travis Kelsey]

We used to hit all that stuff all the. We were a game show network.

[Jason Kelsey]

I still do the families. I still have game shows.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, then you might like this one, Jason. I actually, I was asked how. How well my family would do on the show, and I. And I was like, man, you know what? I think you and Big Ed would be pretty solid.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dad would be good. Dad knows a lot of useless knowledge. He's been spending a lot of time in front of the computer, not really going anywhere with them knees.

[Travis Kelsey]

He remembers stories very well. I'm not. I. I'll. I'll blank on it and I'll confuse it with something else in a heartbeat.

[Jason Kelsey]

If you let Big Ed be a celebrity and eat buffalo wings while he's playing, he might not miss a question. He might get every single one of them.

[Travis Kelsey]

If you give Ed, he's got a deal with him. Chewing Hanes white tea and sweating some box you get some. Yeah, you can.

[Jason Kelsey]

Slope Y equals mx plus B. What's the Churchill? That's what's. I don't even probably would have said that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who knows?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, it sounds like my Wednesdays are going to be very full.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Play along, play along and let me know how good you do.

[Jason Kelsey]

What time. What time does this premiere at?

[Travis Kelsey]

I have no idea what time it streams. I'm pretty sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I know it streams, but usually there's, like, when it's a debut, it doesn't have a time. Or is it just a day?

[Travis Kelsey]

It's just the day. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[Jason Kelsey]

So I can watch it immediately so it doesn't interfere with the grotesquerie at night.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go. If you're not just sick of seeing me on the tv.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, dude, I can't wait.

[Travis Kelsey]

Please tell. Tell me how well you do, because I was actually. I was kind of, like, quizzing myself, going through the questions in the back, just making sure I would read them once just so that I. Because I'm a terrible reader. So I would make sure I would get all the pronunciations, like, corrected in the background. But, yeah, I would love to see how well you do.

[Jason Kelsey]

Should we do it? We'll just get. Can we get the video from Prime? And then I'll just do it and answer them. Boom, boom. See how it happens? Do it live.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Or just tell me.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'll tell you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. Yeah. So make sure you guys check that thing out on Amazon, I believe. Yeah. Amazon Prime. All right, new OneSry plus exclusive this Thursday. And in more new news, our next one plus exclusive will be, like I said, available Thursday. We both watched the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. We did?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. It's happened.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was an electric movie. I'll tell you what had me glued to the screen the whole time. Our first meeting of the New Heights Film club. And we're going to give you guys our review. Make sure you tune in to find out whether Jason was right to judge the movie or its title or if he was actually, like, pleasantly surprised by the movie. Who knows? You won't want to miss this. And make sure that if you want to be a part of the film club with us, sign up for Onery Plus. You'll get an early access, excess of episodes without interruptions, and we're still giving you three free months of Onery Plus. One plus offer is only available for a limited time, so get on it. Visit ONE.com New Heights offer to redeem.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think it did match the title.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, yeah, dude, the pants really.

[Jason Kelsey]

Aren'T a big part of the movie to me.

[Travis Kelsey]

What the pants are like, the bringing them into a lot of their, like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, we don't want to get too much of this review. We're Going to save it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. It definitely had something to do with the movie.

[Jason Kelsey]

Had nothing to do with it.

[Travis Kelsey]

It tied all the girls together, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, you're right. They're in child, childhood, and friendship.

[Travis Kelsey]

No.

[Jason Kelsey]

Their entire life.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's not enough. We need pants. We'll talk about it in the one G plus, though.

[Jason Kelsey]

It shouldn't even be. It should be the. Like, they weren't even. They acted like they were jeans. They couldn't. Like. The whole movie's premise is like, these girls are amazed because it's the first pair of jeggings they tried on and there's some spandex to them.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're giving it away, Jason. You're giving your review.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sisterhood of the Traveling Jeggings. That's what it should have been called.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Out of the house. Moving on. We both got out of the house this past week, and we're going to talk about it. Out of the House is brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express. I tailgated at the Link and then went up to East Rutherford, New Jersey, where I tailgated with Buffalo Bills and New Jersey jets fans. New York jets fans. Trav, you had a buy this week, and there's a small chance that we also saw you out of the house.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, no, you saw me at the Guards and against game.

[Jason Kelsey]

We saw you before. That, too. Is courtesy of this picture right here. We saw you going out to eat. It looked like maybe you guys are out in New York City, you and Tay.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's what we do. We like to go out and eat. Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. I mean, who does it? Why wouldn't you? What in the world was the shirt, though? We got to show this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't. I have no idea. I think it's just art. I think it's just people. And then there's a horse. I don't know what's underneath that horse. I'm not sure. I didn't. I didn't really look at this shirt like that when I got it. I just like the color and the patterns and stuff. It looks like a hand. I mean, it's like a pointing finger like that.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's kind of cropped. Funny, but that. I mean, on this picture, it kind of appears like it's a horse cock.

[Travis Kelsey]

That'd be crazy if I was wearing a horse.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wearing a horse.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's crazy. Yeah. That's why you always gotta. You always gotta really, you know, you gotta make sure you know what you're wearing, kids. Or you're just. Everybody can just assume now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, gosh. Well, we do know what you're wearing, because British GQ did a whole breakdown on the shirt.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, nice. Thanks. British gq? Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

In New York City, the American football player wore a navy bowling shirt with a camp collar design and a boxy fit. Released as part of Jacquemeus latest La Salle La Casa line. It's a signature move from the French label. Flowy, fun, and more vibrant Marsai than minimalist Paris. It's a fancy way of saying it's a button down with horses and people on it.

[Travis Kelsey]

People.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, that's what you got out of that. Look at these two people right here.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're ridiculous.

[Jason Kelsey]

That woman is riding that, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're. They're. She's standing next to each other. No, they're not.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, no, no, not that one. The one right below it. You can't even see that guy's legs.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're still. They're sitting next to each other.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, no, no, he's underneath.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're making. There's nothing saying that. That they're having sex.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, what are her tits out for if they're not having sex?

[Travis Kelsey]

Travis, she could just be wearing a very tight shirt that shows her her tits.

[Jason Kelsey]

She's got a BBL on the back side of that. I mean, what's happening on this shirt?

[Travis Kelsey]

Those hams are. Those hamstrings are the hamstrings Match it.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're right. You're right.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're ridiculous. The fact that that got you fired up is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

[Jason Kelsey]

Trav, we also saw you at the Guardians Yankees game while you were in New York. You also caught Guardian jankies ALCS game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, game one, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Playoff baseball. What is it about playoff baseball that's so electric?

[Travis Kelsey]

Gosh, I think it's just the intensity. You know, you play all those. Was it 182 games, you know, for these moments, and then every single pitch matters. Every single pitch matters. A few got away from our. Our first reliever there, unfortunately, and. And sure enough, we just weren't able to. To bounce back from the Yankees power, man.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I'll tell you what, man. When Stanton and Soto, when they get a hold of one, man. Oh, that ball flies off the bat, man. It is impressive. It is impressive. My guy Judge is. He's right there on having a huge game. And I mean, the whole time, I'm just. I'm screaming, I'm. I'm. I'm in hostile territory because it's the Bronx Bombers, and I'm. I'm at the Yankee Stadium in the playoffs. And I'm over here cheering for the guards because I'm a Cleveland kid and I want to see Cleveland win a fucking World Series. And yeah, it was mixed feelings because I was there trying to have some fun with Tay and everybody. All our friends Eli and Chelsea came. Lefkoe and Enum came.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, nice.

[Travis Kelsey]

We had a unbelievable crew with us and hanging with us. And, you know, it was, it was fun. It was fun. Even though the guards couldn't pull it off, it was still an exciting, exciting game. And it was cool to see Yankee Stadium because I've always wanted to see that thing in person in a playoff game, in a hostile environment. And it didn't disappoint. Man, the Yankees, the fans, the players, everybody involved, man, it was awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

There is something about playoff baseball that. And I love regular baseball. Anytime you go down the ballpark, you're getting a hot dog and a beer, you're having some fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

But playoff baseball, it's like almost the history of it. You just get swept up in like the moment. It's one of the most iconic. I will say, I don't think it's as good as playoff hockey. I don't know that anything competes in playoff hockey now, but playoff baseball is pretty dang good.

[Travis Kelsey]

I feel like. I feel like it, it does because you, you can get the play, you know, the player stories a little bit more. And not to say that hockey doesn't do a great job of that, but you just don't see, you know, hockey players wanting to put themselves out there for everybody to get to know them. It just is what it is. It's just not kind of the culture of the, of the league, I don't think.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I think that's probably fair. I think it's. Yeah, I do think that's part of the culture. Part of it's, you know, it's just not as popular of a sport as, as baseball. Yeah, they're wearing, you know, the helmets and stuff. So you see them, they got the open face mask, most of them. Yeah, I think you're right. I think a lot of it does come down to the hockey culture.

[Travis Kelsey]

I just feel like I'm more invested in every single player. Like if, if the Yankees play the Dodgers, you know, a little New York versus the old Brooklyn Dodgers.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're right. It's. It's a sport that's ruled by the, by the, the star power. It's a star power driven league.

[Travis Kelsey]

You put a guy like Shohei Ohtani in New York dude and, and you like. I want to see how he reacts to, you know, a hostile environment like that. I think that's exciting for me to see as a, as a player. So every single time I see him up at bat, I'm going to be glued into every single pitch. It's hard to find that in any other sport, you know, let alone in the playoffs.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think it's also. We just grew up in the 90s with the Indians and we just loved baseball so much because they were so good. How many World Series or playoff games did we go to? I know you went to one World Series game.

[Travis Kelsey]

You did. I only went to the.

[Jason Kelsey]

You went to the All Star. That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

I went to the All Star. You went to the World Series. I remember going to, just taking the Rapid downtown and going to games for like a $5, $10 ticket or if a friend had an extra ticket for me, we would all just jump on the Rapid and go downtown.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, mom and dad didn't have many tickets bought. We usually were.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was either throughout work or we were tag alongs with somebody else.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sailors had season tickets that they would split up with a couple other people. So every once a while ago with Brandon, we did go to the one playoff game together because mom always tells the story about how we fell asleep in like the fourth inning or something like that. We were like fast asleep because it was a late game.

[Travis Kelsey]

No way.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do I gotta text mom right now.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I just. There's no way I ever have fell asleep at a, at a Tribe game.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mom tells this story.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't think we were kids.

[Jason Kelsey]

We were, we were like very young. We were both asleep. I promise.

[Travis Kelsey]

Maybe, maybe if we went to the game and I really didn't know what was going on, but every game that I went to, I was, I was the biggest like fiend for sports ever. If I ever went to a ball game or a, like a basketball game or anything like that. Like I was so glued.

[Jason Kelsey]

Travis, nobody is, nobody is attacking your.

[Travis Kelsey]

Fandom crazy if you think that I was sleep during one of these games.

[Jason Kelsey]

It doesn't matter how when you're a.

[Travis Kelsey]

Child, beg mom and dad to buy the twenty dollar roster book so that I could actually keep score of the game. Which means I'm watching every single pitch.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nobody is at all.

[Travis Kelsey]

And I'm telling you saying that you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Weren'T a big fan.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think she's just saying that you fell asleep. I was, I was paying attention.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mama text me back. Hopefully if the hurricane didn't Ruin her phone. I think that you. The thing is like my kids, Bluey is like crack to them. They won't. They will be glued to Bluey, but they're still children. And eventually that brain is going to shut it down and they're just going to fall asleep.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know what to tell you. I never fell asleep at a game.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, I'll text Ed too. Dad was there, but.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Shout out to my. Shout out to my guys that I actually know on the Yanks. Rizzo, big judge. If I'm missing somebody, I'm an idiot. But those guys are hall of Fame. Just people, man. Just all like. They're some of my favorite guys to be around when I do get a chance to hang out with them. Saw some Saturday Night Live two years ago, I believe with them. And it's just cool seeing them, seeing them chase it, chase the ring. Even though I want my guards to find a way to get him, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Come on, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on, baby. This is a tough place to play though, brother.

[Jason Kelsey]

I text dad. Did Travis and I ever fall asleep at an Indians game? He said no, I did.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean dad, yeah, he's like us. That's where we get our sleeping from. He could fall asleep at a rock.

[Jason Kelsey]

Does not matter. We had some Cleveland sports that we were getting into. You went to the Guards game and I saw a Browns game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Jason was tailgating. How about it? Who knew? Jason tailgating. It was the second weekend in a row you got to do some tailgating out there in a Philly and well, tailgating in general, I guess. Philly there's the first time in like two weeks you actually hit two different tailgates. Let's start with the Eagles game first. How was your second time tailgating at the Link was. It was a, you know, a little bit more genuine this time. Knowing you didn't have all the. Did I guess you still had cameras following you.

[Jason Kelsey]

There were cameras following? Yeah. This one, the first one was more like a pre planned deal. This one was kind of like just show up and like try and experience it. But it turned into chaos. Yeah, it was a blast, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was the Carmichael jersey on maybe.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, baby. Shout out to Harold.

[Travis Kelsey]

Are you a Jersey guy now?

[Jason Kelsey]

I am. Especially the throwbacks. Dude, I got my guy. We're going to talk about the. The Bills jets game in a second. I got a great jersey from that one, but it was awesome. Rocking. Harold Carmichael used to. Dude, Harold used to be the director of player development. That was his role at the Eagles When I first got here, so got to spend a lot of time with him. He was instrumental in helping a lot of young players and the rookies out, getting acclimated, new people to the city. Just an awesome personality. So it was really cool to wear his jersey, and it was awesome to go tailgate. I mean, listen. Got to hold up a baby. You see this picture right here?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, you know.

[Travis Kelsey]

No way. That's actually the words. That's not it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think those are the words. I also witnessed somebody get engaged in front of me. That was not planned, at least on my behalf. That came out of nowhere.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, Brian Dawkins got married.

[Jason Kelsey]

Brian Dawkins proposed to this one lovely lady.

[Travis Kelsey]

And were there any Philadelphia delicacies that you got into, like, alligator?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, alligator was not on the menu this week, but there were cheesesteaks. Everybody's got sausage. One of the guys had this jerk chicken set up on this charcoal, like, tailgate. It was probably a grill specifically for tailgate. I had never seen it, though. It was dope, just sitting on the ground. Let me tell you, these chicken thighs, pretty damn good.

[Travis Kelsey]

I had. My first time. I had a. I had jerk beef.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jerk beef. I've never heard of jerk beef. Who's doing jerk beef?

[Travis Kelsey]

I. Never mind. I don't even know if it was that. It was a jerk pasta. It was a jerk pasta with beef in it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, you can do jerk anything, probably. It's just the jerk seasoning.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I've just never had. I've only ever had jerk chicken, maybe pork.

[Travis Kelsey]

And lastly, there was an insane video going around of you chugging a beer.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

The focus wasn't as much on you as it was on the cameraman next to you. And this is why you shouldn't go on top of trailers, kids.

[Jason Kelsey]

I will say this woman was up there already, and she offered to go up there. And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to turn down the opportunity to go up on a trailer. I've never been on top of a trailer. Almost felt like. You know what reminded me of. I felt like I was in Tremors. I felt like I was like one of the guys in Tremors up on the bus. You remember that scene, the.

[Travis Kelsey]

The worm things that were tunneling through the desert? Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And they would get up on top of vehicles and stuff so they weren't touching the ground. And then we start popping the tires.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know. I got an insane flashback the moment I got up there. My guy. I don't know how he got up there. This ladder was like I was nervous going up myself. Like very old. Like did not look like it was adhered very well. And somehow this guy climbed up there with a camera. I mean it was impressive that he's up there to begin with.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Didn't know there was a skylight there. Stepped, broke right through the window in the. In the roof. Luckily he's good. He's okay. Camera fell down. I thought it was done, done, done.

[Travis Kelsey]

Donezo.

[Jason Kelsey]

He ran down there fast, picked it up, started recording, worked perfectly fine. I don't know how.

[Travis Kelsey]

What. That's how durable those things are.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think that they're supposed they are but somehow that thing must have fell just right. It was insane.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's. That's like a 1012 foot drop right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. That's like a $200,000 piece of equipment right there. That camera. I would assume that thing is expensive.

[Travis Kelsey]

Were you like shooting a doc? Was that your camera? Was that your guy?

[Jason Kelsey]

They're helping with another thing we're doing with ESPN that I think we're waiting to kind of unleash that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were there shooting with that. They're really with NFL films is who they're with. But they camera dropped kind of. I thought it was gone for sure. Luckily I knew he was all right with the way he got up and then he just kept up and kept recording. Who's a trooper Electric.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is why you chug people. This good things happen. When you chug, you get good content.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well now I'm two for two now at Eagles tailgates. My man Duny almost tore his acl.

[Travis Kelsey]

D did. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And luckily he's okay. Well, doesn't need surgery. And now this. I might. I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm cursed.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. If you see Jason chugging, don't move.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. So this was awesome. It was a. It was a fun time, fun event being out there with the Eagles fans. A little weird seeing Browns fans and I. I was ribbing them. But obviously being from Cleveland, I still love the Browns. In particular there's this one tent. Dudes were awesome. They're from St. Ignatius. Really happy to be there. So it was cool seeing some brownies in in attendance.

[Travis Kelsey]

Some fellow believe lenders.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is a big game.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was a big game week six.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's not divisional but both of the teams needed the win bad. Like Cleveland is in a bad spot right now and I mean honestly, if we're being real honest, they're a bad football team. I mean it Was. I came away watching that game thinking Cleveland's worse than anything else. Like that offense just cannot get it figured out right now.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it was. It was a rough go around for both teams because we heard some Sirianni chance. But we'll get to that later. Let's. Let's talk a little bit of Monday night football countdown. Little Monday night countdown with ESPN send you to the Bill's jets game and in the metal lands and you were reunited with your people. Bill's Mafia. Dude, you started. Yeah, you started things off by once again drinking out of a bowling ball. Got that one back in. You like that one so much. Except this time we actually know what was in it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes. Gatorade. If Pinto round offers me a shot out of a bowling ball, I'm not going to turn down Pinto Round. I'm not doing it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Why? Why blue Gatorade?

[Jason Kelsey]

Because I'm not supposed to drink when I'm on Monday night Countdown. It's one of the caveats of working for espn. They don't like you to be seen drinking alcohol or even drinking alcohol before they put you on live television.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's fair.

[Jason Kelsey]

Unless you're Pat McAfee. Then you get away with whatever you want.

[Travis Kelsey]

When you're the greatest, you get different. Yeah. You get treated differently. It is what it is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, yeah. Pass the man. So what I'm wearing right there is a hat from the water Buffalo Club 716. And they have a grand poobah.

[Travis Kelsey]

What? The grand poobah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And that's what the Fred Flintstone outfit is. And they anointed me that, which is basically, I'm king of the tailgate for the day. I'm king of Bills. Which.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

Felt a little weird getting while I wore this jersey in honor of a legendary defensive lineman who recently unfortunately passed away this week. Abdul Salam. That's right. The last member of the New York sack exchange, not in the ring of honor for the New York jets, but known as the soldier of peace. But yeah, we were. We were having a lot of fun out there in the tailgate. Bill's Mafia. It doesn't matter where they're at. They're having fun. Fellow Midwesterners, obviously there's a kinship.

[Travis Kelsey]

Buffalo's Midwest.

[Jason Kelsey]

Anybody like. Well, I consider anybody that is resigned.

[Travis Kelsey]

There's no way.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're right. If you're on the lake, you. All those cities, just good people. They think the same. They all just want to have fun. And it's a great time being out there with the Buffalo Bills mafia. The jets fans are awesome, too.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jets fans were fun when I watched you last year playing the Jets.

[Jason Kelsey]

The Bills mafia is more of a production. Like, they have a lot more going on. There's, like, people that travel and obviously there's a way game for them. So those fans have, like, their, their, their. Their like rituals that they're going to with everything.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Whereas, like, the jets fans, it was like, oh, yeah, I used to be a firefighter. Now just go tailgate to the games. Like, it was, you know, a lot of that. Kind of appreciated too.

[Travis Kelsey]

For sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Got a hard hat. Dude, this is one of the baddest hands.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, I gotta say, dude, this is pretty cool. You're like, you're like getting.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm just like, using it to get knickknacks.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. This is awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, hook me up.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, you're gonna be a hoarderer. Before you know it, people are going to be giving you everything that's good right there. And then you. You had a wardrobe change after you went tailgating, though, Jason. You actually, you actually put on a suit.

[Jason Kelsey]

Suit and tie. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

About it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think the suit's nice. I think that that's one. There's a reason why people have worn suits for a long time. So getting up there with a tie, this one obviously fit. Color scheme wise with the game. My man Ryan Clark was in the jets suit colors. This one, I had this color already in my closet.

[Travis Kelsey]

Electric blue.

[Jason Kelsey]

And I'm like, man, I don't know when I'm ever going to wear this. Like, very blue blue. Like, I don't know when that's gonna happen. I was like, you know what? I think this might be the perfect week. New York Jets.

[Travis Kelsey]

I could see. I could see you playing for the Bills.

[Jason Kelsey]

I would have fit in really well. Yeah. I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick, anybody with a beard is going to fit in well with the beard with the Bills, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, man. You snapping it to Josh Allen would have been dangerous. God damn it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Snapping into Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ooh, Fitz magic.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Bills is a sound that appreciates their offensive line too. Much like Cleveland, much like Philadelphia. The Bills, like my man Eric Wood, he's been up there. He. He's like, calls the games for Bills radio and stuff like that. Still, he would.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's a town that definitely appreciates the big guys up front. So it's. It's an offensive line haven town.

[Travis Kelsey]

I get it. Well, where'd you get this? This Buffalo. Buffalo wing necklace.

[Jason Kelsey]

So Teresa was the one giving out the grand poobah attire. And there was another woman. I don't remember her name, but she had the buffalo wing necklace for me, which is my kind of jewelry.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, I've got a few of those things doing hot ones once or twice. And that does it for out of the House. Brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, please, Brandon, get on it.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

I think I did know this and.

[Jason Kelsey]

Apparently I'm in great company because J.J. watt and T.J. watt might be the peloton guys after seeing these outputs they posted. Did you see what JJ tweeted? These outputs are outrageous.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is insane.

[Jason Kelsey]

He averaged 27.5 miles per hour.

[Travis Kelsey]

His quads are as big as me as an entire human.

[Jason Kelsey]

So what are the Watts made of? And TJ beat him.

[Travis Kelsey]

TJ beat him.

[Jason Kelsey]

TJ was seven. So he was eight. And somehow TJ got seven. Especially for how big they are. I don't even know how this is.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're big dudes. Yeah, no, I'm.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's usually. This is like skinny guys with big old quads.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, well, eighth place out of 54,000 people and 553 output on a 20 minute ride. Yeah, Alex, I'll say that. That's electric. And of course JJ Watt is still mad. There were seven people who finished ahead of him. Absolutely ridiculous.

[Jason Kelsey]

As we just said. One of those seven people was T.J. watt, who came in seventh place, which is even more. This happened in season. T.J. watts, just casually the best bicycle rider in the middle of NFL season. What the hell can these guys not do? This is mind blowing to me. This dude just went out, got three sacks and hopped on the peloton and put out. That type of performance, I don't know how we're supposed to compete with this. How anybody's supposed to compete with this.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Obviously always good when you win. Some good takeaways from the game. Defense played a lot better. No turnovers for the offense in general. Still though, I came away from the game again. We kind of mentioned this earlier, thinking more about, you know, Cleveland probably is a struggling team right now than I did thinking that the Eagles really controlled the game. So I don't think it was like an impressive performance by either team. But that being said, wins a win, baby. I'm taking that all day, all day, every day. They improved in some areas that they've been struggling. Defense played so much better and I think offensively it was sporadic. It felt a little bit disconnected, but at times good. And then obviously whenever you got A.J. brown back and healthy, it's not a bad thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don't forget Skinny Batman. You had both AJ And Skinny Batman, Smitty back in the offense, but you guys still haven't scored in the first quarter yet. Through five games. Zero points in the first quarter of every single game they played so far.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I think they were driving towards the end of that first quarter, so it almost happened. But I think, yeah, it hasn't been a good start to games. And as you know, a lot of starts to games come down to like what you have planned coming in and what you think you're going to see. And I think the Eagles, you know, I don't want to speak for this this year because I don't know as much whether that's happening this year. But Jalen has always been a guy that's been schemed differently because he's a different quarterback. Right. You tend to run different plays and different offensive structures and a lot of other teams do. So I don't know if it's like they're not getting quite what they expect. I think some of it's just bad execution. Like I've definitely seen drops and slow starts from the players. So I think a lot of it is just accountability on both sides. Right. Players have to be accountable to getting off to a faster start and being locked in to start the game. And then I think also offensively you know, getting to stuff that you feel like is maybe you're more of your bread and butt. Does that make sense? Like sometimes I think the early plays end up being game plan specific plays. Maybe start with plays that are more just generic. Part of your offense. Maybe. I don't know. I'm kind of grasping the straws.

[Travis Kelsey]

It feels like the Eagles are starting to get a little frustrated with it. At least the Eagles players. Lane Johnson hit us with the all time quote. We're a constipated offense. That's what it bleeping feels like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's accurate.

[Travis Kelsey]

A constipated office. I mean, that shit's in there, man. Yeah, the shit's in there. Just gotta get that out.

[Jason Kelsey]

Going.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, you already know.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think it's a great definition and you know, go for go figure. Lane just can pull that out of his ass. The constipated offense, great line. And that's what it's. Exactly. It just feels kind of disconnected, out of rhythm. Feels like it's like they have the players, they make spot plays here and there, but it doesn't feel like that full onslaught of plays that go off one another that you're typically saying. Yeah, it's more like guys making plays, like AJ going up there and catching a 50, 50 ball, which I don't know there are any 50, 50 balls with AJ Brown. Obviously the run game struggled a little bit, which, you know, Cleveland's got some horses up front. They got good players, so shout out to them for showing up and my man Jim Schwartz for dialing up a game plan. They had some plays that were there. They did. They just watching it back. They had some counters, they had some things drawn up where it's like, man, if that just happens, that thing's creased. There was an early run where like Saquon runs into Landon Dickerson and like Landon Dickerson makes the tackle, right? And it's like he's on the single safety. Like that's at least a 10 yarder. You know, he breaks one tackle. Explosive run.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who knows how big it is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, you know, there's plays to be had. Some of it comes down to executing, some of it just feels like I think that they're trying to figure things out right now because they've struggled a little bit in recent weeks, especially missing AJ And Devonte that I think will continue to get better. Obviously having those guys out there this week helped. Another week of, you know, figuring themselves out. You know, hopefully this offense keeps going, starts to find some rhythm and is A little bit less constipated.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. More explosive. Well, AJ Brown finished with six receptions for 116 yards and a touchdown. Jalen connected with to AJ for the first TD of the game, a 22 yarder. He also caught an electric game, ceiling reception. A 40 yard pass with two minutes left to play. It sounds like Cleveland might have went cover zero and they just said, fuck it, we're putting it up. What do you think of this, this play call here late in the game. And also did Wyatt notice his pink shoes are back?

[Jason Kelsey]

I was not watching with Wyatt, but she probably did.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was not cover zero. It was just straight up cover one with the safeties up and. Or man hole. Hole is what we call it. Double hole. Kind of picking crossers and just making the quarterback throw over top, which he did. He did beautifully. Great pitching catch by guys. Two guys that know how to do it. The best in the league.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, it's A.J. brown. He's going to come down with these catches like nine times out of ten. He's a beast. He's swole Batman. I do think back to the slow starts and maybe game plan specific plays. It felt like a good way to buck that sometimes is utilizing tempo. And I think that they do it sometimes, but it feels like Jalen, when they go into these two minute situations, he goes more into like automatic mode. I wouldn't be opposed to them maybe mixing some tempo early in the game like here and there to, you know, spark some momentum. And I think that it's worked in the past with him in particular. And I think as an offense, I always liked when you're going tempo, you have to call more generic stuff that goes off of one another. It's like, hey, we know we like this versus this. We know we like this versus this. And it kind of, you know, because of the tempo nature of it, you can't do all these crazy things now. I like that Kellen's brought more motions and more interesting things. We still need to do that, but maybe sometimes early on just to like get in the rhythm. Sometimes using. Utilizing that helps. So maybe they do that.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's probably the coach's coach though.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Coaches know best and they'll keep figuring it out. Sirianni knows what he's doing over there. Devonte Smith also had a big day, finished with three catches for 64 yards. It's good to see that dynamic duo in the wide receiver group over there starting to get back on track. But Nick Sirianni, big things Coming out of this game that we got to talk about. Sirianni appears to be chirping back at the Eagles and I'm not sure if he was necessarily chirping back or if, you know, like it was a confrontation or if he was just, you know, trying to get fired up with him. We don't know what was actually said, at least I don't think so. The fans who Nick Sirianni was yelling at after the Eagles win posted his side of the story context on Reddit. Nice. He's a Reddit guy. I began to yell in quotes, but if your start running back gets you five yards on the, on first down, you give it to him again. Run. Run the ball. Run the ball. And I had some more to say, but you get the point. Yeah, it sounds like the Eagles fans coaching in the and that's what they do. They let the coach know what they think they should do. I mean it's, it's fans, the Nick.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sirianni run the ball stuff. You know, Nick turned around, obviously everybody saw this, gestured for him to calm down and said something to the effect we will, don't worry, I'm on it. Or actually they didn't see that. So Nick turned around beforehand, gestured to him to calm down, said something to the effect that we will, don't worry about it. Fast forward the end of the game, came over to us and said, hey, I told you we'd run it. I told you. Admittedly paraphrasing, I had indulged quite a bit. The point is I was, it was not unwarranted, nor did I see it as aggressive. I don't know. There's no way for us to verify if this fan was indeed the fan that Nick was yelling at. This is a Reddit post which is far from a verified source, but it is intriguing because I think that would lead you to believe that this maybe not be as big of a deal as everybody's saying it is. And it probably isn't. Regardless, I think Nick and his presser announced, you know, we thrive off of the crowd, they cheer for us. And the team had been trying to get him back to being the like emotional leader that he is. And obviously he commented on Monday, you know, I was trying to bring the energy, enthusiasm, all that. I'm sorry, disappointed in the way I directed it. At the end of the game, my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating, celebrating our guys. So he knows that, listen, it's a lose, lose operation when you start going back and forth with fans it's tough. It's never going to be seen. Right. It only empowers people to talk more trash because they know they're getting to you. We talked about this with Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa's at the Link. Fish on, fish on. We got him. Like, you can't do it. It's just not going to help. But. And people have seen this because I said this on Monday night. Like, people are like, oh, you're defending Nick. I'm not defending him. I think this is. He shouldn't be doing this. Like, I don't think that that's right. But at the same time, I will defend him. And like, he needs to be emotional, he needs to be passionate. That's when he is a better coach and he knows that and the team knows that. And I think that directing it in the right way is what we want to see. And I think that for the majority of the game, that's what you saw. You saw Nick fired up. The team needed that. They needed to win this game. He knows what's on the line and it's getting. The sense of urgency is high right now in Philadelphia. So, yeah, not good to be directing it in this way. Nick knows that. That's clear. Hopefully he can continue to bring the passion and the energy in more productive ways that won't have a bunch of people on TV shouting about stuff. Yeah, that'd be great.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, I feel like you. You just gave us your final thoughts.

[Jason Kelsey]

So that's about it. You know, I think that it was still an underperformance by the Eagles. They still got a lot to work on. But the good thing is, is week four or week. Sorry. Good thing is week six. Is that right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Week seven, Week seven, Game six.

[Jason Kelsey]

Week seven. God damn. This thing is flying by.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. And the Eagles are going to take the subway over to New York or New Jersey, I should say.

[Jason Kelsey]

We got the Giants as we. Giants haven't been looking that bad.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Saquon return to the Meadowlands, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Haven't been looking great on offense, but their defense is looking dang good. So it'll be a fun game.

[Travis Kelsey]

We did have one voice of reason, maybe an unlikely voice of reason from our guy Dumpy. Eagles are literally a wide open two yard Saquon Barkley catch away from being four and one while missing A.J. brown for three weeks. And the lone loss being when A.J. brown, Smitty and Lane Johnson were all out.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a reasonable take, Duny.

[Travis Kelsey]

God damn. Dump. That's a good take.

[Jason Kelsey]

Level headed Philly fanatic. Tattoo around your belly button. Take right there.

[Travis Kelsey]

You don't always get that out of, out of those kind of Philly fans.

[Jason Kelsey]

Those die hards sometimes.

[Travis Kelsey]

Those die hards sometimes just poured on them.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, week six recap. Not the best week for football last week. Great week for football. So the offenses reinvigorate around the league this week got back to a little bit of sloppiness. The big news break that we have following the week is Devonte Adams is now a jet jets coming off of their loss Monday Night Football to the Bills. Short lived amount of agony Jets. Jake, I mean jumping for joy. This is, this should expand the offense. Obviously. Garrett Wilson, it's going to add another dynamic every time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Anytime any offense or anytime any hall of Fame quarterback gets this kind of receiver or gets his like legendary receiver that he has been always on the same page with, gets him back. Yeah, no, that this offense is going to be a lot better and it just is what it is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, absolutely. The offense looked reinvigorated too with Todd Downing calling plays yesterday. It just felt like you were moving the ball, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

They were moving the ball, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were handing it off. Back to the fan that Nick got into it. Run the ball, coach.

[Pat McAfee]

Run the ball.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's a good point.

[Jason Kelsey]

Other news, Cowboys home losing streak now at three. They've lost three in a row. They didn't lose a single regular season home game last year. I don't think that's crazy. They've lost three this season after.

[Travis Kelsey]

It wasn't just a loss this week either. Man, it was ugly.

[Jason Kelsey]

On Jerry Jones birthday. Happy birthday. Jerry almost got a 50 burger from.

[Travis Kelsey]

The Detroit Lions and they were, they were, they were around, I'm not gonna lie. They were throwing hook and laterals to offensive linemen. They were throwing offensive linemen out outside the numbers. Acting like they were doing running receiver screen.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dan Skipper eligible.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, it was, it was interesting. But I don't think anybody can really point a finger on what exactly is wrong with the Cowboys. It just doesn't look like they're playing very well together.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, they've struggled to stop the run all year round and I just think the games that the defense has really struggled has been like the Ravens, Detroit Shocker. Both those teams really good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Run the fuck out of the ball. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right at you. They've gotten. It felt like they were getting better and you know, Detroit is just so good at it and they've been asserting their will all season long. And then Jared Goff hits it behind you. I mean, it's, it's Ben Johnson, the guys that they have in Detroit, it's an impressive, impressive unit on their offensive side of the ball and defensive. But obviously we saw Aiden Hutchinson go down with a very graphic injury, almost like an MMA style. Hopefully he's all right. He'll get back eventually when he gets healthy.

[Travis Kelsey]

Great player. That shit sucks, man. That sucks for the game of football, man. And obviously it sucks for him and his family, man. Nobody likes to see an injury, let alone one like that. And hopefully he gets, he gets right back to full strength as fast as possible, knowing how amazing of a player he is. But shout out to the Hutchinson fan, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hopefully Dallas can get back to full strength. Michael Parsons, they need some of their guys back. It'll be interesting to see how the NFC shakes out. It's. Washington's been doing a hell of a job. I know they lost this week to the, I mean, the monster that's over there in Baltimore, but you know, they've been trending good. It's wide open right now in the NFCS. Other results from across the league, Ray. Texans 41, Patriots 21. Texans come out on top. Texas started, they kind of, they've been winning games. It's honestly reminds me a little bit of you guys where they just find a way to get it done at the end of games with C.J. stroud and company.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Especially with Drake May getting his debut. Patriots man, putting up 21 points. Not bad day for a debut. Yeah. Packers. Cardinals. Packers run away with that one. The most interesting game to me though was that Ravens Commanders game. I really wanted to see how the young guy handled the pressure of, of going up against a Ravens defense because they, they fly around, they're smart, they're well coached. They just, they always have a knack for, for getting around the football. And they made, they didn't make it easy on the young guy, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, he played all right. I thought actually Jaden played well. The thing that they really struggled. They've been great at running the ball all season long. The Ravens took that away and it made it like, hey, you're going to have to beat us. And he still played well. He had him and Terry McLaren, they're building a hell of a connection. McLaren had a couple catches where I'm.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, how scary, Terry.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did this dude just catch this ball? It was unbelievable.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's like he pulls out one of those every fucking game now. Well, the, the Bucs put up a 50 burger on the Saints, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes, they did.

[Travis Kelsey]

Bucks offense, man, that's another one when they're running the fucking football.

[Jason Kelsey]

Good luck.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is going to make Baker's day so much easier if he can just get some good play action and really get everybody to declare what they're doing here and get our guy Mike Evans in a fucking one on one situation. I mean that's.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, you go look at their offense. Quietly, I mean besides maybe the Denver game, I think quietly, their offense has been killing people.

[Travis Kelsey]

Explosive.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah, they are making plays. They are looking real good. It was a weird game too. They jumped out to like a three score lead almost. Then they, the Saints came back and took the lead and then all of a sudden it was like a runaway show for the Bucks. Very weird.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Well, Steelers 32, Raiders 13. And the Steelers said, no, that's not good enough. Justin Fields. We're going to go ahead and go with Russell Wilson. I don't understand. I thought the Steelers were playing pretty good with Justin Fields, but I guess they, they got something else hidden in their back pocket. Thinking that Russell's going to give them more offense.

[Jason Kelsey]

They got it done. Versus the Raiders. That's all that matters, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're winning football games. Yeah. Another. Any, any other more interesting games, I guess.

[Jason Kelsey]

Bears over Jackson and London. Caleb Williams, second consecutive week where you can see the young fellow starting to build some chemistry. He's looking better. Joe Flacco wins another One for the Colts. 49ers getting back to, you know, maybe a little bit of what they have been. Seahawks have struggled a little bit ever since the Lions game.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're. They're another one dealing with some injuries.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. The Lions play so physical. There's some crazy stat, I don't know what it is off the top of my head of like teams after they play the Lions that they're like win percentages way down.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Because of how physical that game is.

[Travis Kelsey]

Fucking biting kneecaps, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fighting Dan Campbell's. Before we get to our guest Pat McAfee, let's answer a couple of your no dumb questions. Because there's no such thing as dumb questions. Just dumb ass people.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's right.

[Jason Kelsey]

No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Mint Mobile, the smart answer to saving money on premium wireless.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes, sir.

[Jason Kelsey]

DEB13M. Now that the NHL season has started, which hockey players, past or present, do you think could play in the NFL and at what position? Eric Lindros could play in the NFL. Yeah, he was pretty confident about that one.

[Travis Kelsey]

You think he's a tight end?

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I. So he came to the golf out and we had for B Philly this year.

[Travis Kelsey]

I remember you telling me he's massive, man. Massive, dude. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like he could have put on weight easily and played online. He definitely could have played tight end.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm thinking he was a tight end.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think that that's probably the most accurate for what his stature was during a number.

[Travis Kelsey]

88. Come on, he's a tight end.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go.

[Pat McAfee]

Little Dallas Goddard.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay. Eight. Eight.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who else? Freaking yagger with this freaking mullet. Would have been awesome to watch out there on a football field.

[Travis Kelsey]

That would have been awesome to see. I don't know what position he's playing, but I'm with you. You think Claudia could have found his way as a wide receiver or something?

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know. Maybe. I mean, he's feisty.

[Travis Kelsey]

I told you. Maybe DB White.

[Jason Kelsey]

Db. He's come in and asked the arm wrestler. I don't know. TB's tough. Maybe safety. Maybe safety. He used to come in and ask their arm wrestle anybody. Like, he's just one of them type of guys. So mentality wise. Yes, mentality wise, absolutely. Complain the NFL physically gonna have to see that.

[Travis Kelsey]

What about some of the bruisers from the league. What's his name? Playing for the fucking Leafs? Who he. Who did he play for last year?

[Jason Kelsey]

I always think of Zeno Charo Ocharo.

[Travis Kelsey]

The 611 defender from Boston.

[Jason Kelsey]

He could play.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, what position would he play?

[Jason Kelsey]

I think he'd be a dn. Got the reach. He's got some, like, wiggle to him. You can put some weight on. Play some offensive tackle.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's what I mean. Defenseman.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Keep the guy in front of you. He's got that skill.

[Travis Kelsey]

You think a guy like McDavid, who's the fastest thing on fucking ice, can and play receiver or running back. He kind of. He weaves like a running back when he's on the ice.

[Jason Kelsey]

He does. He's got the elusiveness, but it's got.

[Travis Kelsey]

The vision for running back.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. It's just hard to gauge because skating is so. I've seen guys that skate incredibly well, and then you see them run on a field and it's just not the same. Not that they're unathletic, but it's like. It's a different. It's an entirely different muscle group that you're activating ice skating than you are when you're actually running. But the elusiveness is there. The quickness is. The twitch is there.

[Travis Kelsey]

Maybe past or Present is Wayne Gretzky finding his way on the NFL football field.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think so. As much as I know. I mean, he's in the. You know, we talk about this later with Pat. Greatness is greatness. So probably would find it, figure it out, but he didn't. He never struck me as like having.

[Travis Kelsey]

Speed or like, have you ever seen him race? Have you seen this? They did like crossover. Like, who? What was it? It was him and like three other professional athletes. I think you're right.

[Jason Kelsey]

And they did 100 meter dash and he smoked.

[Travis Kelsey]

Everybody smoked some.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're right.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know what? Rolling.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go. There we go. Intern.

[Travis Kelsey]

Brandon, who is it? Who do. Who else is up there?

[Jason Kelsey]

I forget. I don't. You know, one of the top.

[Travis Kelsey]

Sugar Ray Leonard.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sugar Ray was one of them. Yep.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, Pele. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not as impressed with Bjorn Borg losing, but beating Pele, that's something.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, he's not just beating them, he's crushing them. He's rolling on them. You know, he was a two sport athlete. I'm pretty sure he got drafted by the Expos. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. You know what I'm gonna say? He could have done it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, I'm right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, the form is not great, let's be honest.

[Travis Kelsey]

He runs like fucking does that. Sugar Raid. Switching lanes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sugar Ray, just switch lanes. He's like trying to catch some wind. He's trying to drift. He's trying to get some drift action. He's like, hey, I ain't winning this one. I might as well get second. My man's smart.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's funny.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's hilarious. Oh, man, I will say they're running like some dickheads. I mean, let's be honest. They. It's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, what do you mean, that's. Who. Who used to run like that? Chris Collinsworth used to run like that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, they're running like. You ever seen Josh Allen run his 40s? I love Josh with his straight arms. You ever seen that?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, he definitely has the straight arms for sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

When they told him arms at a bend, arms at a 90.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, sir, it don't matter what it looks like. He's a baller. All right.

[Travis Kelsey]

That big dog is rolling.

[Jason Kelsey]

It turns out it looks pretty good on NFL field running. And that does it for no Dumb Questions. No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Mint Mobile. All right, I think it's time, Trav. Time to bring on our guests. Dude, shall I do the honors?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm so pumped for this.

[Jason Kelsey]

I know we've Been waiting for this one.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't even know if I'm gonna ask a question. I'm just gonna fucking just sit here and just listen to my guy just go.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, dude, I don't think there's anybody better at listening to than the guy that's about to come on.

[Travis Kelsey]

There's not. There's not. I still listen to him every single day. He's the only one. I don't. I don't. I don't turn the TV on for anybody else but him and Scott Van Pelt, svp and then you when I have to.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Don't. You don't listen to me. Stop.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're right. I don't. All right, now it's time to talk about our next partner. We're excited about American Express. Don't steal home without it.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. On last week's episodes, we talked about Travis trying new foods and how we both love getting out of the house to try new restaurants whenever we can. Well, we were out of the house this past week. Trav, when you had your buy, did you do try any new dishes or new restaurants or anything when you were out of town?

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, I told you about that jerk beef. There was a jerk beef. There was a jerk pasta at that. It was very interesting. I'd never heard of a dish like this in my life, so I gave it a run, and it was pretty good.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I love trying new foods, Kai, and I love getting out of the house when we can. There's just something about going out to eat. It's like, what is it about good food that really just brightens everybody's world?

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Always in on Cherry ice pop. I got a little cherry laminate today. Cherry rocket pop over my, over my left shoulder right here.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

It'S time to bring on our guest. Jason. You want to do the honors?

[Jason Kelsey]

From Plum, Pennsylvania, he was a national punt, pass and kick champion by the time he was a sophomore in high school. The seventh round pick out of West Virginia. First team All Pro. First team Pro Bowler. He made the PFWA all rookie team and was first team All American. He's a first team Yinzer all the way. You've seen him on College Game Day, WrestleMania, and of course, the host of the Pat McAfee Show.

[Pat McAfee]

Mr. Pat McAfee.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hell yeah, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Man, you got me jacked up. What an honor it is to be here. Thank you for all those kind things and for doing your research. I've lived an absurd life and obviously this conversation is a piece of that. You two are running the world right now. So for letting me be a part of New Heights, which I've told you I've been a massive fan of for. Since the beginning of New Heights, this is an honor, a dream. Thank you for the intro and thank you for the time. Although, Jason, you were saying some terrible stuff about, you know, like, position groups.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're joking here. We're joking here. We're joking here. You know, he's having fun. It's a podcast.

[Travis Kelsey]

Shy away now, Jason.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you know, the stats people. You came out. I was joking.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're just having fun here. We're having fun here. The kickers.

[Pat McAfee]

You. You had a well thought out take.

[Jason Kelsey]

You said.

[Pat McAfee]

For years I've been thinking about. That's what you said. For years I've been thinking. We've been talking about this. You've been laying at night thinking, like, I need to get this into a show somehow.

[Jason Kelsey]

How do I work this in?

[Pat McAfee]

Listen, you're the greatest of all time, the greatest center of all time, one of the toughest humans ever play football. And obviously your resume is what it is on the football field, so you're allowed to say whatever the hell you want. Travis, if you want to hop into that whole train, you can as well. It's the people that have never played football that decide to dunk on, like, kickers and punters and stuff like that. I'm like, you need to relax.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is why you did the college game day. You're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking shit.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason, do you think you could kick a field goal? Bingo.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know what? I don't know if my hips got me in it. We might have to find this out.

[Pat McAfee]

Get your Tims. Okay. Get your untied Tim.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get your Tims. It's. Yeah, the old boot style, just straight on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who was the square toe?

[Jason Kelsey]

Who's that? Lou Groza used to do square toe from the Brownies. Is that. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What's the garbage picking field Goal kicking. You remember that, Joey?

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's. Yeah, that could be the case.

[Pat McAfee]

But my problem, my issue is whenever people have never played football before, bury kickers and punters and act like it's an easy thing. It is not easy thing. Like if you get out there and you play catch, you could probably play catch a little bit. You know, you probably could. If you want to get out there and do maybe hit something or say you probably do that. You try to kick something. Most people are going to suck at it. Which is why the college game day thing happened for kicking is easy. Although it's getting expensive. Boys, last two weeks, these guys have made kicks and it's like 200,000 bucks to these guys.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jesus.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, it's a real deal.

[Jason Kelsey]

They're starting to practice.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think I'm trying to get hustled too.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think I'm starting to get hustled.

[Pat McAfee]

There's a chance. But, Jason, I think, I think you should maybe be on the side of kickers because I think it's good for the sport, you know? I am.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, I am. And when I was with Connor and we're. This is like in the middle of training camp and you're. And you're in that one on one situation. You get your ass kicked and then you look over and the kickers are like fucking playing a game.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're like kicking the ball.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, see how far they can kick it into a ring or something.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, God damn it. These guys. Yeah, yeah. Me and Vinnie are taking a knee with the helmet on the side.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's really from a place of jealousy. It's a place of jealousy is what it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, you gotta put your face in there a little bit more, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay. I think you got really.

[Travis Kelsey]

Maybe get a little lower with your pads.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. So I can understand your feeling about it all, but I think it is. It's good for the game. Like, you know, on this podcast, and I assume you hear it a lot. Travis, you and Taylor's relationship is great for the sport. Like, it is getting introduced to so many people. And you are the perfect representation for our sport too. I think, personally, genuinely, I think that. I think there's no other human that could do what you're doing right now and how you're doing it is awesome. And I. You need to know that all of us are incredibly proud of the way you're representing all of us.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, I just got to keep winning soon. As soon as, if I, if, If we lose a Game. I mean, it's gonna rain down, baby. It's gonna keep winning. She's gonna keep winning. Staying on top. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But also smiling at the Guardians games. You know.

[Travis Kelsey]

All the Clevelanders laughing around a little bit. The guards, baby, we were right there, man. We were right there. You know, I think we were just one hit away from just taking that stadium by storm. The Box Bombers were gonna. They were out there, Boo Boo. Making it. It was a hostile environment out there. I was having a good time.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, well, I'm happy you enjoyed it, but your relationship is exposing the sport to a lot of people. I think a lot of people are falling in love with it. Globally, worldwide. The gateway for a lot of people to football is going to be the kicking positions. You know, like in Europe, the kickers. And there's going to be kickers and punters coming out of Europe, I think, over the next 15, 20 years.

[Travis Kelsey]

There has to be, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. In Australia and everything. So I think it's good for the sport to have kicking and punting, though. I understand why centers and people that have, like, actual physical, you know, positions with actual ramifications could feel that way. But I genuinely enjoy the fact that it. It's a sport for everybody.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's like.

[Pat McAfee]

I think it's going to help. I think it's going to help.

[Jason Kelsey]

Going well.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think. I think you. You brought a new mentality to the. To the specialists because you were out there throwing your weight around.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're out there. You were out there taking some heads off.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on, Travis.

[Jason Kelsey]

We got that clip from the hit versus the Broncos in 2013. You got. You got selected for a drug. A drug test after that. Correct. The league saw that and they freaking said, no, no, no, this can't be all natural. Punters don't do that to guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because what Travis just said right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I think Roger Goodell was watching that and saying, that guy's gotta be on something. Okay, let's go ahead and test him immediately. There was a few of those days, you know, like, you do something good and you don't get drug tested the next day. If you're like a kicker and punter, it's almost like a slap in the face, like, whoa. You didn't think it was that impressive.

[Travis Kelsey]

I just, you know, hit a 60 yard field goal. You think, I'm not. All right. Right.

[Pat McAfee]

Viri's like 45 years old hitting like a 58 yarder, and they're not drug testing him the next day. It's like okay. Okay. You know, so it was like a badge of honor. But, yeah, I'll get lucky every once in a while, hit somebody. I'll be sore, though, for like three, four days. That's why what you guys do. I. I do not understand. I. I don't know how your guys bodies hold up. Like, Trav right now still, like, you take those shots and you're blocking more. I don't know how your body isn't sore forever. And Jason, whenever that push, push happened, you were getting voted like an accordion. Every single time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Every single one.

[Pat McAfee]

Every time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Every single time.

[Pat McAfee]

We're hyping it up. We're like, push, push.

[Jason Kelsey]

Every. Keep it coming. AQ's like, yep, make him suffer. Make them suffer.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I can never do that. That's why you guys are so much tougher. But it's a great sport. Genuinely great sport.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it?

[Pat McAfee]

God, it's awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

The fact that it's for everybody. You hit the nail on the head. I'm. I was talking shit. I deserve all this. And maybe I can. Can I stop by a game day set and see if I can make one of these?

[Pat McAfee]

We're in Texas this weekend, brother. You want to stop anytime you want to come by, we will make happen.

[Jason Kelsey]

Ooh, let me see what the schedule looks like. Maybe not this weekend, Maybe not this weekend, but I think we can make something happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I know. So we should promote that it's happening, you know, so we can get a little bit more pressure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Here we go. That works. That works.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Make it like a game.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah. I suck under pressure. I can't even snap the ball to the quarterback.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know who had to go through this was big. Big Rob Gronkowski kick of the year for the Super Bowl. Right? He. I forget who he was. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Sandals.

[Travis Kelsey]

They did. That's what it was. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And he.

[Travis Kelsey]

Two years in a row, right?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he was practicing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's even worse. I'm not practicing. So there's zero expectation.

[Pat McAfee]

It was windy. It was windy. You know, speaking of.

[Jason Kelsey]

Speaking of the win. What? That Monday night game, they miss how many they hit the uprights three times or twice?

[Pat McAfee]

I think it was four misses. I think all in total. Gosh, there were some bad ones, too. Like Tyler Bass missed that first one real bad left. When Joe Buck actually mentioned it, I think he was trying to hit like a little bit of a liner to kind of get through it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So he. He tried to hit it a little fat, and then he ended up hitting it too fat. So then you Pull that thing. It looks nasty, but wind is a problem. You know, wind is always going to be the worst problem.

[Jason Kelsey]

When you go out on the field and you feel that wind, what are you thinking? Is it like. I'm hope. I'm hoping it's at my back when I'm out there. Like, how does that work? Do you. Does it affect how you're doing it?

[Pat McAfee]

Obviously punting, but, yeah, me, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not mentally tough enough for. I like to see the ball fly, you know, like, there was guys in practice that loaded to use, like, brand new balls. Like, we want practice to be hard so that in the game it's easier. It's like, no, I need to see these balls flying far.

[Jason Kelsey]

I want to see them pretty. Yeah, yeah. I need to give me the juiciest.

[Pat McAfee]

Ball we got, and I want to go downwind. I want to be feeling real good. But you wake up game day morning, and you open the. The blinds or whatever, and then you try to find a flag on top of a building, and if that son of a was at attention, you knew it was going to be, you know, it was going to be a long day. And I was immediately bummed out. In Indianapolis, we have, like, a dome.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But we opened a window in the roof, so it shielded me a little bit. I was very lucky for that. But, yeah, kickers and punters are trying to find out what the wind is immediately upon waking up, and it's certainly a mind and a mood change.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it, man?

[Jason Kelsey]

You did both at West Virginia. We're going to get to your West Virginia career in just a little bit. But you did both in college. Which one was harder? Which one do you enjoy more, kicking or punting?

[Pat McAfee]

So I enjoyed punting a lot more. I had a strong leg. I didn't know where I was going. You know, I could have been really.

[Jason Kelsey]

Good at kicking, I think, if I.

[Pat McAfee]

Just had a little bit better mentality. Exactly. Yeah. Wow.

[Travis Kelsey]

You make my heart sing. You make everything groovy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that's what it was. That was my right leg when kicking field goals.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So punting was better for me because if you're stronger, you're going to help in punting because you have to hit the ball hard every single time. And once I learned the technique, I enjoyed punting a lot more than kicking.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, based on that clip we just showed, you absolutely declared a guy on the sideline. Did you ever play another position because you don't have that. That form doesn't come out unless you've done that before.

[Travis Kelsey]

That aggression doesn't come out unless you've done that before.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, like that was not the first time you've ever laid a hit like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Boys. What, what city are you from?

[Jason Kelsey]

We're from Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm from Pittsburgh.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yep.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, football town. Of course you did.

[Pat McAfee]

Like these are football tents. Grew up playing pick up football, you know what I mean? It was on the street, in between the telephone poles or it was in somebody's backyard. So I have been playing football my entire life. I played soccer though. So like I played a lot of soccer and also, you know, from where I'm from, not a lot of people made it in sports ever. So I think when I was young they like decided and deemed that I was going to make it in soccer. So I think nobody really wanted to it up in anything. Right. So soccer was my full focus. But I also played football in the neighborhood in Implom a lot. And everybody that played on the football team I was friends with. I was like 6 foot tall, 190, 182 playing soccer. So football was a natural thing. And then I did that punt, pass and kick. You talked about it earlier. And when I won that, they asked me to come kick. I couldn't make it to practices though. I would literally just show up on Fridays like before the game. That's crazy. First time putting on the pads, I had no idea what I was doing. That is, that is kind of how it all came together. But I've been playing football forever. You know, I got an older brother his friends played football with. So it's like I'm from Pittsburgh, so I know football. My fans, family's happiness levels. Ran off the Pittsburgh Steelers success rates like my dad that die hard of an NFL fan. So it's like kind of had it in me, but also should have played football more as a kid, I think, personally.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, all right, it worked out.

[Travis Kelsey]

I hear you.

[Jason Kelsey]

When you get to run a fake punt, what does that feel like? Because when we run trick plays in like the, the red zone, it's like one of the things that we're looking forward, like we're going to run this play. Who the hell knows it's about to happen. But it makes you kind of feel like a kid. What's it feel like to go out there, you know, you're working on all week. Fake pun, even like more rare. It's like how many like one a gold a year maybe, if that.

[Travis Kelsey]

And you have some iconic McAfee baby. We're at least two.

[Jason Kelsey]

I know you have the catastrophic one with my man. Come on now. My man, Colt Anderson. But what is it like to have a fake puck called?

[Pat McAfee]

Cole got sacked there pretty quick.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it did not go well for cold.

[Pat McAfee]

That was not how that was supposed to be executed. As you guys know, like every week there's some fake, like field goal or fake punt that is like a guarantee. Always have them up, like every day. And then, like, if the situation calls for it, you know, we'll do it. But what I have found is, like, if the team's good, normally not going to be running a lot of fake punts. Like, early in my career, I was explained to. I had an idea for a throw. I had an idea for a throw. I could spin it. I could spin a building. All right, let me, you know, let me get out there. And I was told quickly. So you want us to take Peyton Manning off the field?

[Travis Kelsey]

This is so good. It's real, though. Just to trick him. Just to trick him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Trust me, I got this. They're not going to see it coming.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so I'm going to give it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Right back to Peyton. I'm giving it right back to him.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're trying to give him the ball more.

[Pat McAfee]

We're going to take him off the field so you can throw one. It is all in, like, the situations of it all. And I was certainly very understanding of that. But, yeah, I was real excited, man. Anytime I got an opportunity to do something to help the team, like any of those fakes or onside kicks that we got, like, that's a turnover, you know, that's another possession. That's a big deal.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell, yeah. Stole a possession.

[Jason Kelsey]

Huge.

[Pat McAfee]

So it's like, if you feel like you contribute more, obviously you're a little bit more proud of it. But those ones that don't work out, boy deflator Travis, I have a question for you. You guys run so much trick shit. You guys get exc. Excited for that still every single time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, I got pumped for. I was supposed to have one actually on the Monday night game. And they brought a nickel blitz off the edge. They completely it up. It almost ended up being a turnover. And when I say we completely it up, I completely it up because I didn't block him off the edge. Sometimes, you know, it's just the trick.

[Jason Kelsey]

Plays can just get sniffed out by.

[Travis Kelsey]

A blitz or, you know, when they don't work, they. It makes you feel like an idiot for even trying it. But typically Andy Reid's trick plays are Pretty on cue. And I've actually been a part of a trick play on a field goal twice in my career. Once in a Pro bowl and once against the. The Pittsburgh Steelers. And both successful.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey, yo.

[Pat McAfee]

Was it like a tight end run or a pass?

[Travis Kelsey]

My God. Dustin Colquitt, he was the holder for. For. I think it was Cairo Santos at the time, put it, put it down and then flicked it to me. It was kind of like a little shovel pass underneath and I was out the gate the other side. I was a wink.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a completion for Colquitt. That's a big deal. Let's make sure we pick up those extra yards.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I should have picked up my feet and scored, but I, I at least got the first down.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you guys draw those up? I. What was it miked up or something where you. Andy Reid said he likes you guys to draw up the plays and then you guys practice them and do the whole thing. Is that still happening?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, we still do that. We'll do. We'll do some fun stuff on like Thursday practices during the specialist period. We'll meet Pat and a bunch of the officers minds. We'll go over there and just start. We'll go over there and just start, you know, screwing around with some stuff. See what works, see what doesn't. When we take it to coach Reed that's he's got 51 as he always likes to tell everybody. So it's like he'll decide whether or not a version of that comes into the to the game plan.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you guys gotta pitch. You gotta pitch the out of it. This is a good idea. We got it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think we got one here. Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, it's definitely how. How good an energy you bring to him for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

I pitched a few fake field goals and punts and I knew that my presentation was a big part of whether or not we are going to get this through. Yeah, some go, some do not though. Boy, those things cutting room floor. Those things are gone. Jason Philly Philly Bananas. That's like one of the most. I mean, what historic fakes are for sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Nobody really knows to this day was it Philly Philly or Philly Special. And I can't even remember. Like all I know is that Nick asked for Philly Philly. It's known as Philly Special. But he was just going to go up Lane. Lane was my cue to snap it. And that was the easiest job in the world for me. I'm just running naked. I was like, man, call this as much as you want, Doug. This is the easiest play in the world.

[Pat McAfee]

This is going to be a historic play. And I don't have to take any hits to the head.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm just gonna run.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, man, we're winning a Super Bowl.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's easy.

[Travis Kelsey]

We tried to take that after you guys ran it. And of course it's me throwing the ball to Pat. And sure enough, there's a cornerback over there. And I'm like, trying to play monkey in the middle with this guy. I could have just walked in the end zone. It's against Tampa Bay the next day. And here I am trying to like. But I want the touchdown pass. And threw it out of bounds like.

[Pat McAfee]

An add smart play. Smart football.

[Jason Kelsey]

Travis and I were special teamers at one point. We should admit that Jason.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is why it's so fucked up, because Jason was the kicker. And we're both. We're both still friendly fire.

[Jason Kelsey]

Little friendly. You know, I'm jealous. I'm jealous that I sucked at it so bad. I was the worst long snapper on the planet. I. I mean, I was a bad quarterback. Snapper. Short snapper.

[Pat McAfee]

But anyways, I like how humble you are. You're like the greatest center of all time. How about Cole Comet? You see Cole Comet?

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I did not. What's Cole out here doing so long?

[Pat McAfee]

Got hurt. Long sniper.

[Jason Kelsey]

He was doing it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Chicago scores. Touchdown. That has to go. Snap the extra point because he's the backup long snapper.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, how about pandemonium on the sideline when the long snapper gets hurt? Oh, Brent Selleck was our backup snapper. And he. And right away, just complete fear. Like, we have not practiced this enough at all. He goes out. It's always.

[Pat McAfee]

Baby, always the tight end there.

[Travis Kelsey]

Whatever.

[Jason Kelsey]

First one, perfect snap. Second one rolled back, complete disaster.

[Travis Kelsey]

I remember this game. It was like cold and rainy. And though it wasn't a great weather day.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Travis, I am. I'm the backup snapper. Me and Noah Gray. Whatever you need. Me and Noah Gray. Noah Gray is our. Our. Our other tight end. And he's definitely. He actually did it in the preseason. Our long snapper got banged up. James Winchester. Shout out to Winchester. But yeah, he definitely. He's capable of it, too. Both field goal and pun. I think, personally, I think the field goal, it's shorter, but it. It's kind of harder because you got to do it at a. It's. You got to do a low. It's almost like you got to just burn one right. Right over Right over the, like, grass. Like right over the edge of the grass. Whereas punt, punt, you can just, you can just fire that thing back there and hopefully the punters athletic and all. I have one, One snap in a preseason game to Dustin Colquitt on punt and I, I yanked that thing to the right about six or seven yards and he went and grabbed it, came back to the left foot and booted it and yeah, he snagged it. He snagged, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Jason Athletic. Yeah. Geez Louise.

[Travis Kelsey]

Shout out to Dusty for making me look good now that I've.

[Jason Kelsey]

I've faced enough shit for this. Well, no, I haven't. Keep coming. But I do want to get to the media career, Pat, because listen, you are an unbelievable punter. Absolutely outstanding. I never thought something would be more impressive of a guy going into media, but what you're doing, man, and what you have been doing is just insane. You're by far the most talented guy I've ever seen.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's not even close.

[Jason Kelsey]

All over the place, dude. It's. And you've done it your own way, which is even more remarkable. Did you know that this was something that you were going to get into, like your whole career? When did you know you were going into media and how did that.

[Pat McAfee]

I appreciate you saying that because literally, since you guys have tried it, you guys have had massive success. So for you to say all those things that you said about me, I could just go ahead and, you know, flip that right back to you too. Absolutely crushing it. Congrats on that nine figure deal.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you for paving the way. That's good.

[Pat McAfee]

Boys, boys. Owning it yourself. Okay, boys. That's good shit, boys. Okay, so, like, I think that's the thing. Like, I have a great group of dudes around me, though. Like, the dudes I have around me are so incredibly talented. And we all kind of understand, you know, what is needed to be done each day. Like, we're in here full time, we try to keep up with everything that's happening in the sports world. We have to, you know, kind of know what's worthy of chatting about, what should be talked about also, what's not being talked about that should be talked about. And when we talk about it, let's not take the easy way out and be negative. Like, let's do this in a way where maybe we could celebrate sports a little bit. That's kind of been since the beginning.

[Jason Kelsey]

How we viewed it, for sure.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The guys I have around me are incredibly talented. The work ethic is insane, but also it's cool that, like, people seemingly have been pretty, like, accepting of, like, hey, we're allowed to laugh and crack jokes as opposed to having to tear people down all the time in the sports world. Yeah, we'll talk shit, certainly. And we are dumb, and we will get things wrong for sure. And I am. I'm wide open for three hours every single.

[Travis Kelsey]

But you'll have fun with it like you did with Lombardi and Max Crosby last week.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. So we get into, like, we. Because we are just kind of out here having a conversation, trying to have a good time, but we all have the same mindset. We're all very appreciative of what we are doing, and we're all fans of sports, you know, so, like, the more people that get into sports, we're happy about, and we want to make sports, like, a good time. Like, people think of sports like, hey, it's a good time. Because there's a lot of. That's driving everybody like this, seemingly, for sure. It's like, sports do this, and they really do.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And it's like, that's what we try to celebrate as much as possible, but we mess it up. But it's a group of dudes I have around me, man. It's. It's a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun every day.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, you gotta get the crew, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

How did it all, like, what was the first conversation of, like, hey, we're gonna start this show.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So when I was playing, I got a chance to do the Bob and Tom show, which you guys in Cleveland might know who the Bob and Tom show is. So Bob and Tom. Maybe not. Okay, sweet.

[Jason Kelsey]

Shout out to Bob and Tom.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, Shout out.

[Pat McAfee]

They're an Indianapolis staple. They're a morning show. They were syndicated on, like, 170 channels across the country. Radio, 6:00am to 10:00am they had. They owned it, too. So, like, the business they've had. So they did good business in this entire thing. They were in Indianapolis. It was a comedy morning show. Basically, every comedian you've ever heard of has been through there during their tour. Because Indianapolis is pretty centrally located. So from 6 to 10, they're, like, nationally syndicated everywhere. And then from 10 to 10:30, it's just like a local hour here in Indianapolis. They negotiated some deal, and it was like a Colts Tuesday, which was our off days. Jeff Saturday was the guy that did that for, like, 10 years with them. Jeff Saturday leaves to go to Green Bay. They asked Jeff Saturday, like, hey, who should take your spot in here? You know, And Jeff Saturday says, like, you got to get the punter. The punter is the guy to do this or whatever.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go. Shout out to Jeff.

[Pat McAfee]

So then a couple of the other media people also told him that you should get the pat or whatever. And I think they even said my name wrong at the time. So when Bob and Tom. So when Bob and Tom approached me, and my dad was a truck driver growing up, so obviously he was on the road a lot with radio. So Bob and Tom. He knew about Bob and Tom. So I knew about Bob and Tom whenever I was a kid growing up. So when Bob and Tom approached me to join the show, I was like, I'm not going to be the one that ruins this show. You know, it's been around like 30 years. I don't think I'm the right guy for your show. Like my. The that I am is just not, I don't think is the right for your show. And Tom Griswold from Bomb and Tom said you would be the dumbest guy on earth if you did not come on our show or whatever. And I was like, okay, I'll come do show. So I get in there, first week, first 30 minutes. I've never felt like more comfortable. Like I was just. They were talking about news, they were talking about sports, and it was like they had three comedians in there. Bob Kavoyan's like one of the quickest smart asses on earth. He's there. And it was just like I almost felt like alive in there for like 30, 30 minutes or whatever. And then the next week when they're live from 6 to 10 on the national audience, Tom Griswold was like, hey, next week, anytime you want to come in, come in. So I went in there 6am I was like, I'm coming in here 6am So I did like four hours with him in the morning and it was like, like I fell in love with it. Like, I really enjoyed the energy, the vibe, the way they set up the show, the structure of the show. And it was at that moment where I was like, this could be, this could be something I kind of get into. You know, then when I, while I'm still punting, I had a stand up tour I did around the Midwest. I did some other shows here in Indianapolis. I had a podcast, I had a merch store while I was playing. So it was like I was kind of doing the next step while I was still punting. And I was finding like fulfillment in all this stuff away from punting. After the offense Failed. You know what I mean?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, I was having a good time with the charity stuff I was doing. I was having a good time with the comedy stuff. I was having a good time with the show, and it was like, I need to fully focus on one of these because there's only 32 jobs in the NFL. You got to have respect for that. But then also, this is so much more fun. And I'd taken care of everybody financially that I thought I had to take care of with my NFL money, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna try to chase fulfillment here. And then it's become all this, and it's. It's so stupid. I'm so lucky, so thankful, and I have a blast. I'm literally just trying to enjoy it all.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's such a genuine way to get into your next career, though. Like, you. You. I. And I can't stress this enough for the guys in the NFL that are looking for something outside of football. You have to do it while you're still playing. Use those off seasons and the little connections that you make throughout your career to be able to set yourself up. And it's so cool that you're. You. You started doing that. You found it, and then you just took off.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on.

[Travis Kelsey]

You took off. Did it. Did it actually make it easier for you to kind of hang it up or. Like, you. You could probably have played as long as you wanted to, right? I mean. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Package still be out there kicking balls.

[Pat McAfee]

I played in that. I played that soccer tournament last summer.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I read my hip flexor kicking, so I don't think I could still. Hey, Jason. I don't think you were balling, though. When I retired.

[Travis Kelsey]

You were bought. No, I'm saying you were balling on this in the seven. In the. What was it? 707. What was that league?

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. You know. Okay. You saw it.

[Jason Kelsey]

You saw this?

[Travis Kelsey]

I saw the crosses. I saw. Yes. It was fucking electric, dude. Are you kidding?

[Pat McAfee]

Carry North Carolina for, like, four weeks. We were down there. I did not know what I was signing up for. And then our team got, like, good. Our team started, like, bonding. Our team started having chance. I was like. I fell in love with it.

[Jason Kelsey]

But then.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, just ripped my. I mean, I had a pool of blood. Blood in my thigh for, like, three months. That's when I felt old, you know? That's when I felt real, real old. But, yeah, definitely, I think, you know, whenever guys retire and, you know, the stats, obviously, you guys Both about the 80% fall into bankruptcy after five years. Professional athletes and everything like that. And I always wondered why, like, when the NFL PA would come in, they always talk to us about, like, saving money and yada, yada, yada. And I actually asked a couple times, like, how come there's no ideas, like, for everybody to make more money when they retire? Like, why can't we hear more? Like, hey, your story matters. Money. Like, hey, speaking is maybe something you should get into. Tell your story. Everybody who makes the NFL has a story.

[Travis Kelsey]

Everybody, Everybody.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, no matter what story is, that success story can pivot you into a new profession later. I was wondering why that was never talked about. So I think, like, fully focusing to this. And I retired very early, and everybody said. And a lot of the people said I was dumb. Yeah. A lot of people said I was an idiot when I retired. Six million bucks on the table, all that. Yada, yada, yada. So there was also. So, like, did it make it easier to hang it up after hearing that? Maybe not. But it also made me get to a mental point that was like, I'm making it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm gonna prove all these wrong. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Backs against the wall, boys. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

These people are not gonna be right. Yeah, that is not gonna happen.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I think having a focus. Having something to focus on, enjoying what you're doing and still having, like, the locker room, because I got the boys here, you know?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it is.

[Pat McAfee]

It certainly helped a lot. It certainly helped a lot. I think.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love it, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

You've talked about your boys all. And one of the things that has just been so awesome about the way you've done it is you have not changed who you are or how you do it. I still remember seeing you down in the Pro Bowl. What was that? Arizona, maybe? Or maybe it was like, yeah, you're the exact same guy. No matter when you are, whether you're on TV, off, like, wherever you're at, you are Pat McAfee. You've brought all your boys with you. You've done it your own way. You've created your own path.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's a real one.

[Jason Kelsey]

The way your brain works is. I don't even understand it, to be honest with you, man. It's like always just the neurons work. The only thing that works better than your leg is a punter, is those neurons you got up there. They're freaking clicking at all times, brother. It's impressive.

[Pat McAfee]

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[Jason Kelsey]

To see where it's gotten you now. ESPN college game day. I don't know, man. Did. Is this did you envision it getting to this? Are you happy with where it's at right now?

[Travis Kelsey]

Were you always a college game day? Like, kind of like, were you always excited on a college game day? I mean, you had a pretty good college experience over there in West Virginia.

[Jason Kelsey]

No.

[Travis Kelsey]

Was it always.

[Pat McAfee]

We had good times in Morgantown. We had good times.

[Travis Kelsey]

We got. Yeah, we. We gotta talk a little bit about that. We. We know some guys, we know some real dogs that were over there in West V. Man, that was my first.

[Jason Kelsey]

Alcoholic drink was in Morganton at a 7 on 7 tournament.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I think that's a lot of people's stories. I got a lot of people's stories.

[Jason Kelsey]

We went down to the gas station and got mad dog 2020 orange jubilees.

[Pat McAfee]

Those mad dog 2020 used to be a real problem.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Because the color. I think everybody thought they were softer. They were not.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, they were not.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were not. No.

[Pat McAfee]

They were throwing a hundo, you know. They were. And when you talk about college game day, I. I think just like everybody else in the NFL, like, we watch college game day every Saturday to keep up with. It's in every NFL building, you know, And I think in college, we watched it every single Saturday. So I think I've always been a college game day for fan, you know, come from Pittsburgh, though, which is an NFL town, which is, you know, interesting. So whenever college game day becomes an opportunity, it was never a show, like, I thought to myself, like, I could be on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But then whenever you're presented with opportunity to be on, like, one of the top two institutions in the history of sports media, and it's football and it's wrestling, you know, in front of a live audience.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

So. And obviously, I am so incredibly lucky to have a relationship with the wwe, too. Growing up, how big of a fan I was of wrestling and wwf.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes, everything.

[Pat McAfee]

It is so. It's like football and wrestling, and it's one of the greatest shows in the history of shows. And you're like, there's only so many spots so massive honor to even be asked to do this. It's like, all right, I'm going in. I'm gonna go in. And I've been baptized by college football in this entire thing. It is electric, bro. I know you're from Cleveland, I'm from Pittsburgh. These college towns, especially down there in the South, I mean, out in Oregon, bananas, Berkeley, crazy. These people in the south are praying to the. The it's God, it's Jesus Christ.

[Jason Kelsey]

And it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Then it is the team you know, it's like, it's crazy. It's been an honor, dude. It has been so much fun. So I try to have a blast everywhere I go because how committed in, like, that is a part of college ball. Like all the pageantry and the tradition and loyalty. So I'm lucky to do that, man. I really am. And to say, dude, I know it was going to go like this. No, bro, I had no idea. I had no clue. I was hoping just to be able to survive and pay my guys and like, we just have fun, go to work together, do our thing. But then, like, things just kind of happen.

[Travis Kelsey]

I remember. I remember the day you went door to door.

[Jason Kelsey]

Come on.

[Travis Kelsey]

Handed out some envelopes, man. You kidding me? That's a real one right there, man.

[Pat McAfee]

The backpacks to the boys.

[Travis Kelsey]

Backpacks. My bad.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, those still happen. They do it in a different way that's much easier to tax, you know, because. Yeah, I guess backpacks of a hundred thousand bucks is not the easiest way.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's not the best tracking.

[Pat McAfee]

And then to broadcast it too.

[Jason Kelsey]

So everybody, whatever happened, we saw a backpack. Was there actually cash in that? No, no. Anything in there?

[Pat McAfee]

How much did he say?

[Jason Kelsey]

He said it was a bit. There's nothing in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Fake money.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's the better atmosphere? College football or NFL. And I guess it's different depending on which college and which NFL. But just in general, you've been a part of both. I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Kansas City seems pretty insane. Arrowhead seems crazy, right? I mean, that is crazy.

[Travis Kelsey]

Arrowheads, rocking.

[Pat McAfee]

They got chants and too, right? That they do throughout the entire game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

In the home of the Jee. And when you're at an away place and you hear that, you guys got to get pumped about this.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, we're here. We're here. That the. I just know the away team or the home team hates that.

[Jason Kelsey]

That is one thing I'm jealous of. Soccer stadiums is those. Those old school chants, those call and react chants.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

You don't have those.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what every college has.

[Travis Kelsey]

Has.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what every college has.

[Jason Kelsey]

Those are electric.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, so that can. That keeps the stadiums, like throughout. Like, you know, there's a dead period in NFL games maybe. Yeah, it's like the college ones, there's no dead period because there's like give and take calls back and forth. Like when I do all that on game day, it's like that's what they're doing in the stadium. And I, you know, I'm very lucky to learn That I.

[Travis Kelsey]

So, like, the day was so electric out in Eugene, Oregon, this weekend. You had me off my couch singing with you, dog. That everybody is in the group chat. Every group chat. I'm a part of. Like, bro, Pat McAfee's the best thing to happen to college football. Everybody's saying it, dude, you had everybody livid and ready to rock and roll for that Oregon Ohio State game, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Tell everybody I said thank you for the kind remarks.

[Jason Kelsey]

And the.

[Pat McAfee]

The thing about it is I'm learning that from, like, walking around the town the day before. So I try to go, like, experience, like, their food spot. Like, what's our food spot that they talk about? Because every college, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So I'm trying to tell my own story. Like, when I go experience, I go see some spots. I'll go see the team facility, and I'll try to ask people at all these places. I'm like, hey, what's the. What are we.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's the.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, what are we. What are we saying out here? And I'll get, like, an answer from somebody, and they'll be like, you say go. And then they'll say, docs, I'm like, okay, they'll go. And they're like. They'll go with it. I'm like, thank God. Because there. There has been one time. It was for the wwe. I do, like, commercial break. I do. I cut a promo on commercial breaks in these arenas, and I try to do the same thing. I try to get the local thing. I was misled.

[Travis Kelsey]

I was misled.

[Pat McAfee]

I was told. I was told that the crowd was going to go, and they did not go. So the first time. The first time when that crowd responds to me in the morning for game day and I hear it back, I'm like, thank you. I was not lied to. That is as good news. But Eugene showed up in a big way. Berkeley showed up in a big way. Obviously, Alabama, those place. It's. I'm having a time in my life, man, and I'm learning so much about all these schools, and everybody's cool.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, you look like it. And you look like, dude, you. You play to a crowd, great. But it doesn't look like it's like being done in any. Like, you just are genuinely loving to be there, and it's awesome to see, man. It's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, that's, like, a part of it, you know, like, that's a part of college ball is like, the fans.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's the beauty that you're on site, that you get let's take advantage of it. And you're. I mean, you maximize it, brother. It is awesome to see. See.

[Pat McAfee]

What were you wearing? You were on a Fred Flintstone thing during pics the other night.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I don't know what I'm doing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wilma. That's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome. You enjoying it? You're crushing it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm having fun. I'm having fun. I'm learning. I do want to, like, dude, I would love to talk to you when we even got more time about how you prepare. That's the one thing that's the craziest is I've never watched this much football. Like, when you play way you watch your own team and you get really hyper focused on the players you're playing and the, like, what you're doing for the game now. It's like, dude, I gotta watch, like, all this stuff. Like, everybody's just watching all these games and it's. It's hard. And for you, you're doing all of this, like, it is even more impressive.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, you're. You're in every fucking sport, dude. I don't know how your mind does this, dude. I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's the neurons. The neurons are operating on a different level, man.

[Pat McAfee]

So here's how. If I see it. If I see it normally, it's going to stay there.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right?

[Pat McAfee]

But I have to see it, though. So, like. So like the night before college game day. Yeah, I'm running through everything. I'm running through every team. I'm running through every player. I got Tone Diggs, one of my guys, he writes up a full, like, preview of what the weekend will be like. But I have to see it, you know? So once I see it, though, it's in there.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's in there.

[Pat McAfee]

So it takes up some time. It's like act for you, acting. Travis, what were you. Did you memorize? How'd you memorize those lines and everything like that?

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, yeah, the lines are. You just gotta. You gotta. I was fortunate enough to have an acting coach, and you just keep shooting the lines over and over and over again until you get comfortable with it, and then you'll finally find out and feel out what the scene actually is. At least that's what. That's what my learning experience was for. The lines and everything in acting. And then you can kind of riff.

[Pat McAfee]

How'd you do it?

[Travis Kelsey]

You crush it, I think. Jason. Jason didn't tell me I sucked. So. So far, so good.

[Jason Kelsey]

So far so good.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's Go, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is fun as hell.

[Pat McAfee]

Congratulations, dude. I mean, I don't know how often, you know, people just celebrate right in your face on your show. I apologize for doing that, but that's on me completely. That's awesome though, dude. I, I think about some of the you're doing right now and like the pictures, you know, my wife, massive fan of your lady. So I, I get, I get updates on all this. Here's having dinner with Wolverine and Deadpool. You know, it's like, do you ever get, do you ever, like at this moment, you still understand, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

You still, at this point, at this point, it's just, it, you can't fathom what's going on, Sue. It's just like a dream. You're just like, oh yeah, no. You're not surprised by like the next thing that comes in or comes into your life that walks into the door? Yeah, it's crazy. It's insane. I don't even, I don't know how I got to live this silly ass life, man. But I am, I'm definitely fortunate for it for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

You've earned it.

[Travis Kelsey]

You've earned it.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're gonna wrap up this segment with. We gotta ask. You don't have to answer. We prefer you answer. But obviously this is up to you. Pat. First question you, we gotta ask. Nick Sirianni brings up a story about you all the time, drunk and swimming in a canal. He brings it up during the off season portion where everybody's going away and he's talking about, don't get, don't be too crazy when you're away from the facilities. Could you maybe share that story with all the 92 percenters out there?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I hope Nick Sirianni, Coach Sirianni was a honorable and you said that that's all alleged.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I was certainly found rather intoxicated very early in the morning, shirtless and wet. Late in October. It was cold. It was a cold morning. And in the police report, they pieced together that I had probably been swimming in a can. Now nearby. Big thanks to those cops. They got me off the streets that morning when I was certainly intoxicated publicly. Got $140 fine for that, do some community service. And I still haven't got it cleared that we don't know if I was in a canal. And by we, I mean the police or me. That was.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nobody has proof.

[Pat McAfee]

We've learned from that. We've moved along. But yeah, I appreciate Coach Gianni saying, don't be that guy and me being that guy. Because you should have seen how I felt in jail. I was like, I am not a good enough punter to be sitting in jail right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

No way.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought it was over. I thought it was over.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who is. Who's the bigger legend in West Virginia? You or Owen Schmidt?

[Pat McAfee]

Owen Schmidt, dude, that guy could be governor anytime he wanted to be, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's insane, ain't it? Dude, he's a, you know, he's a truck driver. He works for UPS now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I'll FaceTime and he'll be, you know, at work, and then he'll introduce me to a couple of the boys. I'll get a chance to chat with him. I got a chance to see him a few weeks ago whenever we went to Morgantown to do our show before West Virginia took on Penn State. If you do a call in that game, West Virginia lost Penn State, but there was two hour delay. So it was two hour delay. Wasn't a real game. Right. You know, shouldn't even count in this entire thing. But Owen was there. He was one of the guests. He drove up from Greenbrier area multiple hours. I did not know he had to drive that far. So he held that over my head, obviously. Pat White came in from Alabama. I gave. I got Pat White on a plane.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it, baby?

[Pat McAfee]

So I got Pat White on a plane to come out, you know, flew him up to Morgan Town.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're going to make sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Had to drive. So he held that over my head, obviously. But as soon as Owen gets in front of that crowd, they pay their respects, man. Owen Schmidt is like the living embodiment of what a West Virginia mountaineer should be. And I've never seen a human be able to delete beers like O suppression.

[Jason Kelsey]

Impressive. Very impressive. Wasn't it? His nickname was that. Is this true? And this is the story I remember his nickname was Runaway Beer Truck. Is that accurate?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was. It was probably the most perfect nickname ever given to anybody in the history, literally.

[Travis Kelsey]

You want to talk about run right through a brick wall, man, that guy would do it all.

[Pat McAfee]

He would break helmets, Travis.

[Travis Kelsey]

He would break face on his face, on his face. And then.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, he was psycho.

[Jason Kelsey]

We got to talk about 2008 UC versus West Virginia. I know you remember this one. I said a story earlier about alcohol being my first. My first drink ever being in Morgantown. I also had the first beer poured on me in a football uniform in the corner of the end zone after overtime, which you freaking solidified with. How long Was that kick. That was a long one that you said.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I forget. I forgot that game. That was like Biggie's championship type game.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it was huge. There was a lot on the line. Yeah, we won an overtime.

[Travis Kelsey]

But you had to make a field.

[Jason Kelsey]

Goal at the end of regulation to send it to overtime.

[Pat McAfee]

And an on site.

[Jason Kelsey]

Forgot about that.

[Pat McAfee]

It's all coming back. Yeah. Yeah, I am. You remember our fans were sprinting back in.

[Jason Kelsey]

They left. They went into the hills. They went to the hills. Then they came back with cans. I don't know how they got them in the stadium.

[Pat McAfee]

I do remember that. Yeah, I do remember that. And we lost. What? We got a roughing the passer.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think it was something like that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Late.

[Jason Kelsey]

There was a penalty. And then we. Kazim Ali caught one in the corner of the end zone.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, our tight end.

[Jason Kelsey]

And I just remember beers being rained down upon us. It was.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. Those people were pretty intoxicated. They were maybe in the canal.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were up and down.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, that Cincinnati West Virginia run was cool when you guys had Brian Kelly's head.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, you guys started it, right? Was it? You guys are Louisville. It felt like it was Louisville. Then you guys took it from Louisville. Then we took it for a little bit. There was like a weird run there where the Big east actually had some really good teams.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. If I recall here, new Big east happened. I like year. I don't know if it was the year I got there. 2005 is when I graduated high school. So when I get there, I think it was new Big East. Louisville just came to the Big East. Remember they were supposed to run Big East, I think.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. They're Brian Brahm. And who was the running back that they had? That was a beast. I can't remember his name. Anyway, Bush. Yes. Michael. Absolute dog.

[Pat McAfee]

And then Harry, I think was over there too. Like they had. They had a great team. We triple overtime. I think my freshman year we beat him.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think so.

[Pat McAfee]

It was like we had it. Then I think Louisville took it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Pittsburgh was pretty good in there too. They had old Fitzy. Fitzy and Lashawn McCoy.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were never the front team, though. They were good.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know. I might have just been a Shady fan. I don't know. Shady.

[Pat McAfee]

Shady.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, they did win one year. I think you're right. When Shady was there, they might have won one year too. No, they lost. They lost at the end of it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Talk about ball security.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He would show up in your stadium like this and Shake the out of every human in there.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's so crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

It was awesome to watch. Big east was real deal.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was. It was a fun. It was a fun conference there. Shout out to the old Big East. All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Yukon even didn't suck.

[Travis Kelsey]

No excuse.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yukon. They. They. They used to throw.

[Travis Kelsey]

They were making some runs.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were good at basketball. They're holding down basketball. They're holding it down. They beat us. I can't talk. Yeah, we're about third way through the NFL season. Who's your early super bowl pick, Pat?

[Pat McAfee]

Chiefs are still the Chiefs, brother.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, There we go.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, now. And that is. That is not just because he's sitting here and I'm such a massive fan. I'm just a believer in, like, greatness. I legitimately am. I believe that there's, like, levels to this. And for 20 some years, we saw the New England Patriots. For what reason?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, they just were.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they just. In the air. In the air. In the ball. Yeah, in the airs. In the ball. And I was against the Colts.

[Jason Kelsey]

We could videotaping coaches.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Spy gate. All this gets thrown at one thing, and that's greatness. Normally, that's what it comes down. So I think when push comes to shove, I think. I think these dudes figure it out. Like, I just am a firm believer. Last year, you know, there was a little time, and I don't want to bring up bad, bad times to the new Kansas City Chiefs, but the boys seemingly stunk for a bit. It was a few weeks.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was. It was. It was a rough. It was a rough road.

[Jason Kelsey]

It got a little year I ever beat the Chiefs. And Henry, that was the only time we ever got it done. And you still won the Super Bowl.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what I'm saying. There was a time everybody thought they were done.

[Jason Kelsey]

They're not even making the playoffs. It's over.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, everybody but me. I want.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I was standing. I was standing on this microphone, and I said, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I don't know what everybody's talking about. Pat had a flu one day. It was windy the other day. I just saw. I just believed, and I just think that that's the case. And then I watched that quarterback show or whatever the hell it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, On Netflix.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I realized that Patrick was, like, one of the coolest dudes of all time.

[Travis Kelsey]

They don't make him any better, man. They don't make him any better, dude.

[Pat McAfee]

House and beers talking, working his dick off. Fighting through injury and then making every play. They don't make. That there's. You know what I mean?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, that.

[Pat McAfee]

That doesn't. That doesn't. Yeah. So. I believe in the Chiefs personally. That's what I. That's why I believe in the Chiefs.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love it. Even. Even with the team like the jets getting a guy like Devonte Adams today.

[Jason Kelsey]

Big deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Fives are good, too. He popped his head in. I don't know if you saw. Devonte popped his head into our conversation with Aaron Rod Rodgers.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I did not know. I did not.

[Pat McAfee]

He came in with a football in hand, turns it, spins the ball. Hello, devonte.

[Jason Kelsey]

Good to see you. Long time no see.

[Pat McAfee]

They are. They seem to be ready to go. I mean, they just. They just lost to the Bills less than like 14 hours before that. And jets fans are pumped.

[Jason Kelsey]

They should be very, very excited about the future.

[Pat McAfee]

And I can see why. Devonte is a dog.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's a dog.

[Jason Kelsey]

Devontae. Garrett Wilson, they got some in the offense looked a lot better, especially in the first half. Half last this past week, so. Or yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

They're running it, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

Either way. I know. How about that? Let's hand the ball off. Get this guy Breeze hall involved. Who's that? Brace Hall. Pretty good. He's pretty good also.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's do more tush pushes. Let's get these centers.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's compile some more I vertebrae.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you about it on this show a lot or no? I don't know if I saw it. About your body just getting demolished.

[Travis Kelsey]

Polish just getting absolutely. Just full, like you said, like an accordion. He's just getting folded every single time. It's hilarious. I laugh at it at this point.

[Pat McAfee]

I never used to think about hyping it up too. We were so loud. Like tush bush. Keep doing it. We just keep doing it. And Jason has to be supportive.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, he has to.

[Jason Kelsey]

I didn't really talk too much. And then Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson let the cat out of the bag. He used to say that every time he would get called in the huddle. Big fuck my life.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome. But you literally publicly had to support it because it was working and it was like your thing. It was like.

[Jason Kelsey]

And listen, I hated it. But let's. Let's. You know, what if it gets the first down, keeps the strap converts. It's. I mean, it's a free. You're avoiding a turnover. It's insane. Yeah, I agree. That's. I'll take a compressed vertebrae for that. Bring it home, Pat.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who's your, who's your two early MVP right now?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay. So do you believe that somebody other than a quarterback can win the mvp?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's going to take a lot.

[Jason Kelsey]

It'll be hard. Yeah. Depends on.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's going to take like something like, like what this Boise State kid is doing at running back.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Holy shit. It's going to take something like that to like take the attention away from a quarterback getting it.

[Pat McAfee]

I think he's ahead of Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders had like 2600 rush hours.

[Travis Kelsey]

Six games in. He's already got 1200 and like 17 touchdowns. The shit's ridiculous.

[Pat McAfee]

And to be clear, Jenty, we think it's incredibly admirable and cool that you're still at Boise State because he led the country in yards, I think, last year too. I assume there was big offers.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

For him to go, but nil.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nil money. Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I assume there was big offers to get him out of Boise State. He's still in Boise. Running on that Smurf turf. I respect.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's like something I. He blends in that blue turf, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude, he never stops running either. He's very impressive. But if we stick in a running back could potentially win an award that normally goes to quarterback like Derrick Henry right now. Oh, yeah, he's scoring touchdowns just like non stop.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's just, just when they, just when they think just because the Titans got rid of him, everyone's like, oh, he's not the same player. Just running, just running. 22 mile, 21 miles an hour. 22 miles per hour. Getting tickets in a school zone. You kidding me?

[Pat McAfee]

He's this tall.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's unbelievable, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'll admit, I'm an idiot. I, I, I. When they made that pick, I'm like, dude, he's a shock. They're going to put him in shotgun. How's this going to work with Lamar? And it's like, oh, yeah. No, he's just bigger and faster and stronger than everybody. Let's just get those guys on our team. Let's just let that guy go north and south. Good luck tackling that.

[Pat McAfee]

And that's hardball football too.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is. He will.

[Pat McAfee]

And then they got Ricard as a fullback too. It's like he's 280 or whatever. Former end. It's like, I don't understand how they're allowed to do that trade. I don't know how that was. That seems to be unfair.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, good job, Harbaugh. I hope he wins. I would, I would be very much as Obviously offensive lineman, but King Henry. I don't know, man. That guy's just. He's just a dog. He is.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's get an offensive lineman award.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, we. That's, like, against the religion O line to get an award, but it's like. It's gotta be, like, a group award. They got the four tough offensive line. Line. Penny Sewell is fun to watch now. See how they get hook and lateral. Almost had a touchdown. Had a called back.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude, he balanced himself.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

How is he three?

[Jason Kelsey]

What? He's got to be at least 350. He's. He's up there. He's a big man. Big man. Hey, my elbow would explode.

[Pat McAfee]

Trav, why is everybody so big, strong, and fast these days?

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know, man. I don't get it. I don't get it. Where they find these people at?

[Pat McAfee]

How tall are you?

[Travis Kelsey]

6, 5, 6, 4, and 7 8. If you ask the fucking combine, they. They fucking cut a quarter of a. Like, can you just give me the quarter eight of an inch?

[Jason Kelsey]

Just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Can I get that eight and be six, five, or do I got to be six, four, and seven eight?

[Pat McAfee]

They push you down, too?

[Travis Kelsey]

They did. They got it twice. They're like, yeah, it's six five. Seems to. Seems too tall for you. I think you need. We need to do this again.

[Pat McAfee]

I just talked about these people being too big and too fast and too athletic, and I'm talking to a dipshit here at 6 foot 5 moving around, like, at the age of, like, 50, you know what I mean? I mean, Travis, you're a freak show, brother.

[Travis Kelsey]

Having fun out there, Pat?

[Jason Kelsey]

We're getting close to getting out. Is there anything that we haven't hit that you want to talk about? Anything that, like. I don't know, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. You got anything fun coming up that people don't know about yet?

[Pat McAfee]

No, dude, there's. There's way too much of me. This show ending quicker is better. But aside from that, I would like to let you guys know I appreciate the hell out of the invite on the program.

[Jason Kelsey]

Program here.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm a massive fan of you guys, and what you're doing right now with media is a big deal, and I hope you get a chance to kind of take it in and enjoy it. All you guys are legends, and, Travis, the fact that you're still able to do all this while still playing, I know it's not easy to balance you keeping the main thing. The main thing and still being able to do all this. Incredibly impressive. And, Jason, your big ass with your untied tims just dropped into this media world and taking over your acting abilities in a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial. And then ESPN NFL Monday night commercial. I mean, let's go, boys. Let's go crushing it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Great time to be alive.

[Pat McAfee]

I appreciate you go you both so much.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, the honor's all ours, Pat. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for paving the way, changing the game. It's incredible to watch your career up to this point. Can't wait to keep watching, keep being you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Can't wait to see you in freaking Austin, Texas this week. College game day intern Brandon, big Austin, Texas guy. Big, big, big Texas fan now here. Brandon's up.

[Travis Kelsey]

What are the chance, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't leave me astray.

[Jason Kelsey]

Don't leave me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Keep making sports fun, brother. I love watching you, man. Love watching you. Let's. And I can't wait to join you on the show sometime soon.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, don't feel any. Both of you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

There is a open invite for any. Kelsey, mama, I'm.

[Travis Kelsey]

I want to get to the Thunderdome and I'm pissed I haven't been there yet, man. Dog, that looks like.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, listen, if you make it out to Indianapolis, ever, would love to have you here in the Thunderdome. Have a good old time. But either. Anytime you both want to come on the program, open invite, whenever the hell I would be grateful and thankful just like I am that I'm here. And you guys, you're the best, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're the greatest brother.

[Jason Kelsey]

Pat. Thanks so much, brother.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right now, Pat McAfee, ladies and gentlemen. You're the greatest dog.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thank you so much to Pat McAfee for coming on. I can't tell you how electric that was.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's one of the ones we've been waiting for.

[Travis Kelsey]

We've been waiting to get them.

[Jason Kelsey]

We finally got him, thank goodness.

[Travis Kelsey]

And that he's the busiest dude in the world. Thank you, brother, for. For giving us your time, man. We love that dude, man. He's. He's changing sports for the good man. He's making sports fun as similar to how I was talking to you about being a part of ESPN and everything. McAfee's doing it at a whole nother level, man, on all aspects. The college, world wrestling, you name it, man. All of sports. He's making it better, man. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on, brother.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's changing the world, but he's still staying true to that Yinzer. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you. Obviously again to Pat. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to the new Heights channel and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast reminder. You can listen to New Heights episodes early and ad free now by joining Wondery plus in the Wonder App or.

[Travis Kelsey]

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