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Jason Kelsey
Do you feel more comfortable that I could maybe dunk in a few weeks or get better at in a few weeks?
Caitlin Clark
Oh boy. Is that what we're calling that? All you need is a few days?
Jason Kelsey
30 days. 30 days. What I'm going for.
Travis Kelce
I told him he had to lose at least 20 pounds and get the technique down perfectly.
Caitlin Clark
I think you need to start with like a tennis ball. Then you get the tennis ball, you go to like a volleyball, then you go to a basketball. I mean, don't ask me. I obviously, I obviously don't dunk.
Jason Kelsey
Are you dunking?
Caitlin Clark
Heck no. I could maybe like grab the rim, but like I just shoot threes and that's good.
Travis Kelce
Welcome back to New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wonder show brought to you by Nike. That's right. I'll let Jason get into what we got coming up on this show, but you're not going to want to miss this I'm Travis. Scouts is my big brother Jason out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. We got the ESPN zone rocking this week, one of our childhood favorites. Subscribe on YouTube, Wonder plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. And now I hand it over to Jason to tell you exactly what we got in this week's episode.
Jason Kelsey
19% we got another amazing episode. First we're going to catch up on what we've been doing since the last week. We recorded one and also we're going to look ahead to the final week of the NFL season. Also we have somebody known to probably everybody in the country at this point. Caitlin Clark is here making her famous second appearance on the podcast. Yep. We're going to talk about her new Nike ad, her signature shoe and so much more. Why don't we get into some of that right now? How about a little bit of that new news?
Travis Kelce
New news.
Jason Kelsey
Hey yo. New news is brought to you by.
Travis Kelce
Nike and this is why.
Jason Kelsey
Joining us today for a special edition of new news is the six foot guard from Iowa. She's the all time leading scorer in NCAA history, the first overall pick in the 2024 WNBA Draft. She's a two time WNBA All Star, 2024 WNBA Rookie of the Year, the 2024 Time Magazine Athlete of the year and she is the first and now last guest of New Heights in the 2025 season. 92 percenters. Please welcome back to the show Caitlin Clark.
Travis Kelce
Let's go.
Caitlin Clark
I'm honored you guys brought me back on. I must have not have been too bad the first time I gu.
Travis Kelce
Always a pleasure. Always a pleasure.
Jason Kelsey
Permanent invite, permanent.
Travis Kelce
Please jump on whenever. Let's talk some Nike. We're honored to be a part of your Nike launch. Being a part of the commercial that is. How's it feel? How's it feel to finally have it all out there? And I know it was, it was a long time coming.
Caitlin Clark
Definitely a long time coming. Like been in the works for quite some time and obviously this is kind of launching like a whole year where my shoe eventually will come out wearing it on the court this, this coming season.
Travis Kelce
So nice.
Caitlin Clark
That's probably what I'm most excited for. But like just getting the people more exc with the logo and obviously I already have some merch out which you're proudly rocking which I appreciate but yeah, no it's so exciting and a lot of the people that were obviously in the commercial, YouTube and Travis Scott was in it My college basketball coach was in it and then just some other people that have kind of like been huge fans throughout my career or, you know, have been apart since I was either in high school or now professionally. So I felt like the ad was, like, very me. So that was super cool. It was fun to shoot and, you know, just really thankful that everybody was a part of it and especially you guys. So you made it fun. You brought the energy.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, Jason. Jason can't make a jump shot to save his life.
Jason Kelsey
He's actually like, you are out of your mind.
Caitlin Clark
Next time we need to get you guys on the real basketball court. That's what would have made it funny.
Travis Kelce
You're, like, out there actually already know.
Jason Kelsey
It'S funny you mentioned this because recently I got into a basketball court for the first time in, like 20 years. I'm on a mission to be able to dunk Caitlin. I've never been able to.
Travis Kelce
No, he's been doing this. This mission has been 30 years running.
Jason Kelsey
We have video footage. Brandon, do we want to play that now?
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, let's see what we got.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, go.
Travis Kelce
This is gonna be hilarious. I'm Jason Kelsey and this is Jackass.
Jason Kelsey
I'm gonna try and dunk a basketball. I can't jump off of one foot to save my life.
Caitlin Clark
I mean, you made it. Still without my dunk.
Jason Kelsey
It went in.
Travis Kelce
Oh, dude, you. You're not even touching the rim.
Caitlin Clark
We got a ways to go.
Jason Kelsey
We got a ways. We got a ways.
Travis Kelce
We got a ways.
Jason Kelsey
You have no.
Travis Kelce
Look at that.
Jason Kelsey
Look at that. I'm kind of up there.
Caitlin Clark
Okay, that one's not as bad. That one's not as bad.
Jason Kelsey
I'm a better two foot jumper. I can't jump off of one foot. I'm gonn Achilles.
Travis Kelce
You're a fundamental guy. We got to get you the right fundamentals. You're not.
Jason Kelsey
So this is what I wanted to ask is are there techniques to jump higher? I mean, I don't know.
Caitlin Clark
I think it's technically easier to dunk off jumping off of one foot than two feet. I think jumping off of two is probably.
Travis Kelce
You really drive. That's kind of like a high jumper. You really drive that other knee up and it helps you, like, kind of catapult yourself up there. But I think. I think we're out of. He has to do it by two because he squats so much. Yeah, you're a. You're a power jumper.
Jason Kelsey
It just hurts my ankle so bad trying to jump off of one leg.
Travis Kelce
He's got a bad. He's got a bad egg.
Caitlin Clark
You're in danger.
Jason Kelsey
Do you feel more comfortable that I could maybe dunk in a few weeks or get better at in a few weeks?
Caitlin Clark
Oh, boy. Is that what we're calling that? All you need is a few weeks?
Jason Kelsey
30 days. 30 days. What I'm going for.
Caitlin Clark
Oh, gosh, Trav, can you still dunk, you think?
Jason Kelsey
Are you kidding me?
Travis Kelce
Name? I go between the legs right now. No, not all like that. I can definitely dunk, though. I'll have that in the bag till I'm at least, like, 50, I think. Jason. I told him he had to lose at least 20 pounds and get the technique down perfectly.
Caitlin Clark
I think you could do it, though. I think you need to start with, like, a tennis ball. Then you get the tennis ball, you go to, like, a volleyball, Then you go to a basketball.
Jason Kelsey
Okay. All right.
Caitlin Clark
Work your way up. I mean, don't ask me. I obviously know I could maybe, like, grab the rim, but, like, I'm not anywhere close to that. I just shoot threes, and that's good.
Travis Kelce
Shoot it from anywhere.
Jason Kelsey
How easy is it for somebody to learn how to shoot who can't shoot, just hypothetically speaking? Not for myself.
Caitlin Clark
Honestly, like, I feel like if you're willing to, like, learn. And, like, that's the problem. I feel like, with a lot of, like, young kids and, like, young basketball players, they're. Their form is, like, so jacked up. But, like, I feel like it's a pretty easy thing to pick up on, like, from a young age. So that's always what I tell, like, young kids, like, make sure your form is always good, and then you kind of work your way back. But that's what I would always say the most important is. And, like, I would get mad at my dad when I was a young girl because he wouldn't let me, like, just launch threes because, like, my elbows would be out like this. I'd be, like, throwing it like that because I wasn't strong enough. And then it, like, ruins your form, and then you have those habits, like, going on through the rest of your career. So. But I mean, if I think if you're, like, willing to learn, and, like, I don't think that. I think that would be easier than learning to dunk if you, like, couldn't jump. Like, you're trying to, like, become explosive again. I feel like standing there and being like this would be a little easier.
Jason Kelsey
All right, fair enough. Fair enough. I kind of shoot. I got that Shawn Marion going on right now.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
I got to get Better at that.
Travis Kelce
But he either Sean Marion's it or he just goes one hand and honestly, he might be better.
Caitlin Clark
One hand is impressive. That's really impressive.
Travis Kelce
One hand top the key. He knows he has the backboard. If he, if he throws it too.
Jason Kelsey
Long, I don't know what to do with this left hand. It just feels awkward to me. When it's involved with the basketball, that's harder.
Caitlin Clark
So that's impressive.
Travis Kelce
Honestly, this guy's insane. Let's get back to Nike though. I, I gotta, I gotta ask some questions because I'm such a huge sneaker fan. You said that you're wearing the new Kicks coming up this season. Yeah, I honestly, for everyone that doesn't know, like the process that goes into like making the, the sneakers, like, like how long in advance has it been or like when does it all start? Do they come to you with, with a shoe, A bunch of shoes, you kind of get to tweak them here and there. How is that process?
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, I think it's honestly been like probably one of the coolest things I've got to do since honestly, the process started at the end of my senior year when I was at Iowa because I was deciding what shoe company I was going to go with and I talked to Nike, Adidas and Under Armour and they all offered me a signature shoe. Obviously some faster than others. And you know, everybody know, knows Nike makes the best product. It just kind of takes a little bit longer. And so that's, and I, you know, I grew up wanting to be a Nike athlete. Every kid does Nike Jordan, like that's, that's the premier brand and everybody knows that.
Travis Kelce
Some Kobe's? Yeah.
Caitlin Clark
Oh yeah. The custom Kobe's are fine. I sent like Harry and some of your friends so they're like, how do I get that? But no, I mean it's probably been, been like a year and a half now of like, like figuring out what exactly I want. And I think probably the most challenging part of it is like, you want it to be unique, but at the same time, like I have to be comfortable wearing it. So I think we kind of like you kind of take what you know, you're comfortable in. Like, obviously I play in a lot of Kobe's, but I don't, at the same time, I don't want it to be a Kobe. I want to be something very unique to me and a little bit different. And I think for myself, like, you know, I kind of think about like what's kind of been important to me when I think about, like, shoes or sneakers, and I think, like, just the chaseability of them, and, like, you want a certain sneaker or, like, you want a certain colorway. So I think that's, like, gonna be probably the most fun part. Like, okay, great. Like, you have, like, the mold of the shoe and, like, what it is and the technology that's in it. But more so, I think I'm more excited about, like, making the certain colorways or collabing with certain brands or whatever it is. I know I definitely got a chief's colorway on the way or something at some point or something.
Travis Kelce
Are you kidding me? Or we can turn into a cleat.
Caitlin Clark
Or get something like that.
Travis Kelce
Listen, you're speaking to me now. I'm. I'm game. It's so cool because a lot of. A lot of, like, you're doing exactly what like, I've always dreamed of doing in terms. Because everybody that plays a sport or definitely is a Hooper well, like, dreams of having a signature shoe. Like, it is the coolest ever. But I. I remember LeBron came out with his first signature shoe, and it was like, he had this Hummer in high school, the Notorious Hummer, and he kind of, like, shaped or, like, made the shoes kind of resemble a Hummer's, like, look and model and everything like that. Like, when it comes down to, like, it being true to you, I can't wait to see exactly what this thing looks like. And. And. And you already know I'll be. I'll be the first one in line to get them.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, no, it's gonna be cool. And it's crazy because LeBron's already. LeBron's on shoe 23 now, which is, like, crazy to think about how long his signature line has lasted.
Travis Kelce
I know it's crazy. And I've gotten all 23 of them.
Caitlin Clark
You don't see, like, a lot of signature cleats in football, do you? Really? Like. It's not really the same. Like, Trav, you wear, like, your own pes. Like Jordan pes, Right, Don?
Travis Kelce
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Shout out to. Shout out to Jordan. I think. I think those fit my game the best just because I grew up in that, like, Jordan era of, like, I kind of like that. That mid to high top, like, boot kind of feel, you know, say the ankles. Protect the ankles.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
But it's actually. It's ironic how, like, a lot of, like, LeBron's made his. His way to the football. Football field. Jordan's made his way to the football field. It's kind of like the, the basketball players kind of run that, that world of like what's on your feet. And it's, it's always been because of, you know, how good you guys are on the court, how much goes into the technology.
Jason Kelsey
I do. I am curious about that because that's, that's one thing that I get frustrated a little bit with. Like cleats, modern cleats sometimes I like, man, I wish these things grabbed better. I wish they had a different mold on the bottom of them. Like, did you, were you super involved in that process as well?
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, for sure. And like, obviously I'm pretty like picky about what I wear. Like I like a certain two Kobe models. So like whatever I was gonna put in my own shoe, it need to be like the equivalent of that technology or even better. And it's gonna be even better. I'm not gonna say exactly what it is. It'll get people excited about and I think even like the Chinese market, like I was talking to some people at Nike, like over in China, like they'll cut open the inside of the Kobe's and like, like show people the technology that's on the inside of the shoe. Because they're like, that means a lot to them. Like, they want to know what they're getting out of the product.
Jason Kelsey
Right.
Travis Kelce
Wow.
Caitlin Clark
So I thought that was like really fascinating.
Travis Kelce
Cut that open.
Caitlin Clark
That's crazy. So it better be made well.
Travis Kelce
But it will be about to say.
Jason Kelsey
I've seen some like cut them in half and you know, you can like look at like a complete cross section of the whole thing.
Caitlin Clark
So there's like a couple Kobe's that they have only the technology and like the heel of your foot and not the forefoot of your foot. And I can like tell a huge difference when I play in those. Like, it feels like I'm running on hardwood. So like I've really struggled to wear those. But for other people, they obviously love them. But for me it's like I know I need that technology everywhere. So that's honestly been a huge part of, you know, the process and the creation of the shoe is like it being comfortable and exactly kind of what I need. And the technology that we're going to put into it isn't anything that they've ever put into a basketball shoe before. So I'm really excited about that.
Travis Kelce
That's exciting.
Jason Kelsey
It really is amazing how much one shoe works for one person, but it doesn't work for another. Like Nike switched the bottom of their cleat maybe what, 2018 trail when did they start going to that new mold?
Travis Kelce
Gosh, you're putting me on the spot. They're all tying together right now.
Jason Kelsey
2019, 2018, whatever. Anyways, they went to like a new mold and I'm like, man, there's just something that feels a little bit off. And I like went and had my foot like 3D analyzed.
Caitlin Clark
That's what I was going to say. Like, do you. Do they scan your guys's feet. Feet for the cleats or how's that work?
Jason Kelsey
So they have that technology available. And I went to that. I never used it. And they said, actually, your foot is geared more towards this like 2015 cleat that they kind of stopped making. And I went back to. That was like my foot.
Caitlin Clark
So they had to dig some up in the storage units.
Jason Kelsey
They were searching equipment rooms like this. I was wearing this cleat up until like 2024. I'd have to take them to a cobbler in South Philly who would have to re glue it because the glue was starting to rot out on these things.
Travis Kelce
Oh, Jason went full on custom. Like, he went.
Jason Kelsey
He got his own glue because they didn't have any more cle. Exactly.
Travis Kelce
You still. You still got those things in the garage. If the. The Eagles need a. Needed. Need one game out of them, you still got.
Jason Kelsey
Stop. Stop.
Caitlin Clark
What did you guys collect the most of? I know, like, Trav, you collected a lot of shoes growing up.
Jason Kelsey
Like, what were you.
Caitlin Clark
Like, what did you like the most? Or like, what was something you kind of always wanted to get? Or what's your favorite pair of shoes you've ever owned?
Travis Kelce
I was just going to get into. I didn't want to get into too much about your shoe because, you know, it's. It's still the excitement of everyone. You know, I mean, the drop and everything. But my. My favorite shoe ever was the Marty McF lie. When they came out with the. The self tying and the. And. And just the whole boot and finally bringing that to life, knowing that it was in the future back in the 80s and like they actually made that mold. I was. It was like my first. Seriously. It's like my first purchase when I got a check, I was like. Went online like Marty McFly's Nike size 13 because they did make a size 14. I'm just like, where are they? And I grabbed them, but. And I still got them. Still got them. This thing still light up on me and everything.
Jason Kelsey
I want what some people might call shoe ignorant. I. I don't know anything about shoes.
Caitlin Clark
You just Wear whatever you get for free. I like that.
Jason Kelsey
That's what it was. I wore sandals, and then my mom got me. The only time I ever cared about what I wore. She got me two pairs of sketchers. And I wore these things into high school. And never again have I ever worn a pair of sketches. They did not light up. I got clowned so bad, and then I immediately went out and bought some Timberland boots because everybody was saying he's.
Travis Kelce
Been rocking Tim's ever since.
Caitlin Clark
That's great. That's hilarious. From Skechers to Tim's. That's quite.
Jason Kelsey
I gotta fix this public image right now. This is not good.
Travis Kelce
My original, like, love for Kicks came in the Jordan era. I remember wearing the. The 14s or. Yeah, the Jordan 14s in, like, middle school travel league, basketball. And then when Bron came out with. With everything. Being a Cleveland kid and seeing him actually play in high school was crazy.
Caitlin Clark
So you guys saw live, like, how.
Travis Kelce
Often I got lucky. One of. One of our good friends, Andrew Brandt, and his. His mom had an extra ticket.
Caitlin Clark
No way.
Travis Kelce
I went down there and saw this, like, oh, he was to the roof. It was like a. It was like a whole, like, parade event outside. They had to, like, cut off the, like, streets around it. It was insane. It was awesome, though. Yeah, he threw it off the backboard and threw it down in the whole stadium or whole arena felt like it.
Jason Kelsey
Was about to rise. I never saw him play live, but he was on all the time. Like, even when he. He had a few of the games that were broadcast nationally when he was in high school. But even the other ones were on local tv, and it was like an entire event when he was in high school. Like, everybody be talking about the next day. Did you see what LeBron did last night? And it was just. It was a crazy time in Cleveland, for sure.
Travis Kelce
I got one more bronze story. So in high school, he. This is when I was in high school, he was going through his first couple years in the league, so. And his brawn twos came out. And Bron twos were iconic shoe. I still have so many pairs of them, but at that point, I wanted to get, like, a pair that nobody had. And in my mind, I didn't really know the, like, sneaker market or, like, how things worked or anything like that. So I thought I was gonna go out and get a pair that nobody had. And literally, like, there was only, like, two colorways that LeBron had officially came out with at that point. And I went online and I'm searching All in the web for, like, LeBron, too. And I found this black, black and silver pair of LeBron twos.
Caitlin Clark
Were they fake.
Travis Kelce
Begged my mother to get them for me for Christmas. Walked into High Tide with them. And one of my Harry's older brother, Will, actually came up to me. He's like, travel. Let me see those things. He looked at him. Somebody from across the crossroom, hey, Will, you think those are real? And willingly, like, real fake.
Jason Kelsey
I got smoked.
Travis Kelce
Never wore them again. Mom asked me, oh, did everyone love your shoes? I was like, yeah, they took them.
Caitlin Clark
They loved him so much.
Travis Kelce
The funniest part was I ordered a 14, and they were like a size 11. I was like. The whole time, my feet were like. It was the worst.
Caitlin Clark
That's hilarious. That's a great story.
Travis Kelce
The worst is so good.
Jason Kelsey
Should we talk back on the basketball court?
Travis Kelce
Let's get into it.
Jason Kelsey
So back on the court, Team USA practice. How you feeling?
Caitlin Clark
It was fun, obviously, to get back out there. It had been a minute, so, like, it was just. Was obviously a long and, like, tough year of reoccurring injuries. And, like, you guys know how that goes. Like, when you get one nagging thing, it kind of leads to another. So it wasn't obviously how I envisioned it, and it stunk. But, like, we still kind of found a way. Like, our team, like, we had, like, six of our players go down with injuries. It was unreal. And we still had a great year. Made it to the semifinals, and, yeah, we were, like, a game away from the finals. And so that was pretty impressive considering kind of what we went through. But it was a long process to, like, just get back on the court, because when you have, like, the groins and the, you know, quads and whatever you're dealing with, it's like you don't run for a while. So, like, it's. It's weird, like, learning to run again in a way, and then on top of that, like, going to, like, play versus the best players again and, like, just getting tossed out, back into the fire. But it was fun. Like, I mean, I probably wouldn't have wanted any other way. Like, you get thrown back out there with the best players in the world, and you see, like, you're right where you were before you got hurt. And it was only three days, so it was. It was cool. And it was at Duke, which is obviously one of the most historic basketball places ever, so that was a pretty cool thing, too, and kind of kicks off, like, the next cycle for, like, preparing for the Olympics. And then we have the World cup in 2026, so at the end of September. So we'll actually like pause the WNBA season. Very similar. Like how we do when we have the Olympics right before the playoffs and then we'll go play the World cup, which technically the World cup in the past has almost been harder for us to win because there's more teams that play in the World cup than qualify for the Olympics.
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Caitlin Clark
So sometimes it's harder to win that. That. So hopefully I'm on the team for that. And obviously my goal is to be on the. On the Olympic team in 2028. So it feels like it's far away, but it's probably actually way closer than it sounds.
Jason Kelsey
It'll be here as soon as you know it, I'm sure. Yeah.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, maybe Trav and. Well, you both could. You could play flag football in 2028.
Travis Kelce
Hey, you already know I could snap.
Jason Kelsey
If they need a snapper, I will gladly snap the ball and do nothing.
Narrator/Announcer
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, I could snap too. So I'll. We'll be running for that job. We'll be competing for that job.
Caitlin Clark
Do you guys, like, NFL players will actually like, want to play or like try to play or.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, I think there's going to be a bunch that are going to want to.
Travis Kelce
A few of the receivers and. And DBs that have good like, like hand, eye and ball skills. I think those guys have a good run at it. I don't know if the quarterbacks will entertain it. It's a different game at quarterback.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, that's what I was about to say it does. There's definitely crossover, but it is a different sport and I don't know. I. I think there's going to be a lot of guys that want to do it it and I think the NFL is going to embrace guys trying to play in it because it's only good for the league to see their players on a national scale like that and we don't ever get that opportunity. But it is a different sport.
Travis Kelce
I think it'll be similar to the. The three on three. You know, like. Like how who was. I think Jimmer was. Was probably the biggest name in the three on three.
Caitlin Clark
He just retired. It was his last Olympics. Yeah.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. Shout out to Jimmer. Man. Electric.
Caitlin Clark
Like his game is perfect for that. Like fast, like can shoot it. Like just quick. But yeah, like you said, like completely different three on three. Basketball is obviously only played in the half court and there's no stopping. You literally play to I think a score or time which is Just way different than five on five.
Travis Kelce
We see you in this. In this picture with Cameron brink Rocking number 17.
Caitlin Clark
I know.
Travis Kelce
Where'd the 17 come? Was that just a jersey? I was about to say they. For these practices, 17's not the best number ever.
Caitlin Clark
I wouldn't have picked that, but so the players that, like, have been on the national team prior get to continue wearing their jersey, like, that practice number jersey or their jersey, obviously, until, like, they're done playing on the Olympic team or whatever happens for the next Olympics. And then all us newcomers, there's a lot of young people at that camp. We just get assigned a random number. I guess I got 17. Nobody asked me, but it was fine.
Jason Kelsey
All right. So are you just stuck in 17 now? In perpetuity, though, do you get to change it? Maybe in the future.
Caitlin Clark
So if I eventually make the team. It's weird, like, because international and international basketball that you only. I think it's 4 through 15. Those are the only numbers. So you have a 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Isn't that weird?
Jason Kelsey
Like, you don't get to pay real.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah. Well, at least for the United States.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, I did not know that.
Caitlin Clark
So it's kind of cool because when I've played junior national teams in the past, we have, like, a. Like a bag tag, like a sticker on your backpack, and it says, like, all the players that have worn your jersey. So it'd be like, if you're number six, it'd be like, LeBron, I think he was number six. Or like. And then you'd have the women's players and obviously all the men's players, which is really cool. You get to see who kind of has worn Horn. Horn, New Jersey.
Jason Kelsey
So this is not in honor of Philip Rivers.
Caitlin Clark
It's not, but how about that?
Travis Kelce
Is that not electric? Electric.
Caitlin Clark
You gotta give him a lot of credit. And he was pretty good.
Travis Kelce
He's throwing touchdowns.
Caitlin Clark
I was worried he's, like, gonna pop an Achilles or.
Travis Kelce
No, you don't got to worry about old Philip Rivers. Man, that guy's tough as nails.
Caitlin Clark
It was crazy. I mean, like, when I first. Obviously when I first saw that online, I was like, oh, that's gotta be fake news. Like, because there's so much fake news out there these days.
Travis Kelce
It was definitely a AI clip in my mind, or I was just like, there's no way he's really about this. Somebody's being funny. And then it was.
Caitlin Clark
And they should have won. The first game he played in at.
Jason Kelsey
Seattle, they were winning when he Walked off the field.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, they made the kick, the long field goal. I turned the game off, actually, because I was watching the game, I was like, oh, that's great. Like, he won. Like, cool. What do you know? I like, check the box score on the ESPN app and I'm like, oh, my God, that's a heartbreaker. That's so sad.
Travis Kelce
Sammy Darnold had other. Had other plans.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Yes.
Caitlin Clark
He's had a great year, too. He's been really good.
Travis Kelce
Happy as hell for that guy, man. Got that Seattle team. We played him and we played him in the preseason and I was just like, there's something about this team. They got this, like, I. You could just feel the energy and the juice and how much they loved playing the game. Yeah, they got some dogs. And I was just like, man, there's something about this team. And then Jackson and Jangba just came to life out of like. Like, started looking like the most unstoppable receiver in the league. League.
Caitlin Clark
So what are your guys? Is obviously Chiefs. We're not in the playoffs, which is okay. We've had a great run. It's not a great run.
Travis Kelce
It's not okay. But at this point, it is what it is.
Caitlin Clark
Jason, you can't say the Eagles. So what are your guys takes on the playoffs picture? What do you think is going to happen?
Jason Kelsey
I really like the Rams. Until last night, it was a. I mean, the first half was kind of the first weakness that we kind of saw from them. Yeah, to their credit, they did bounce back, you know, and almost end up winning it there at the end. But the Rams feel like they have the least questions of everybody that's in the playoffs. Like everything kind of has an answer. They're great on the offense. They're great on the defensive line. They run the ball well. They stop the run. Their quarterback is a proven. Already won a Super bowl and been around for a long time. So it's like that's kind of the team that I think probably is the safest one.
Caitlin Clark
Well, I got Matt Stafford as literally like my last pick in my fantasy draft, which was a steal. Wait, nobody knew he was going to play because remember, he had the back stuff.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Didn't do anything in the season.
Caitlin Clark
Trav got me a lot of points this season, so I didn't get last. That was my only goal. It was.
Jason Kelsey
Didn't get last year.
Travis Kelce
Didn't smoke the past couple years or what.
Caitlin Clark
As long as I don't have to do the punishment, I'm fine.
Jason Kelsey
Wait, T. Do you have a Favorite who you think is going to win the Super Bowl?
Caitlin Clark
I mean, I'm not cheering for anybody. I'm obviously, honestly, like, I'm a Drake May fan. I think he's been incredible. And like, I think the Patriots are. I mean, what is it? The NFC is looks. I mean, like, they're all so good. The Niners are really good, but they're. I mean, they're the most injured team, but they just still find a way to win, which is pretty crazy.
Jason Kelsey
Very impressive.
Caitlin Clark
I mean, I'll probably be like pulling for the Patriots, but I mean, I think the Rams are really good, too. Sam Darnold seems like a good guy, so I could root for him too.
Travis Kelce
But I'm about to say you could. I could root for all of them. You already know there's some I can't root for.
Caitlin Clark
Come on.
Travis Kelce
I can, I can, I can root for all of them, man. Especially. Yeah, we got, we got some good.
Caitlin Clark
Guys out there, but the viewership's not going to be the same without the Chiefs. So how do you think the Eagles will do? Jason?
Jason Kelsey
I think they'll do better than people expect. I mean, I know that the offense struggled in the second half last week and it's struggled at times this season, but their defense is so good and whoever they get in this first round, they're probably going to get a team. That's whether it's. It's the Rams who have said they're going to play their starters or San Francisco, I think is the other team that will probably be it. There's a chance it could be the two seat and play Green Bay. They're going to get a team traveling from the west coast all the way to the east coast and the Eagles are probably going to rest. So I kind of feel good about round one. I feel like they're so talented that, yeah, they have a chance to beat anybody.
Travis Kelce
Especially they got so much, so much firepower on offense. It's just waiting to explode, man.
Caitlin Clark
And they've won before, so they know how to do it.
Travis Kelce
Proven.
Jason Kelsey
Speaking of quarterbacks that like so much of it is like, who can handle the moment really well. And he's been, he's proven that he can do it.
Travis Kelce
He shows the poise.
Jason Kelsey
There's some guys that we're just kind of waiting to see.
Travis Kelce
I'm too intrigued to let this go. You said something about your fantasy league's punishment. What is it this year?
Caitlin Clark
Okay. It was like you had options. You could do like a 17 hour bus ride, no phone. You could do.
Jason Kelsey
Phone on a bus.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah. Like, you just have to sit there. Like, I. I don't know. I think you literally have to, like, just sit there. Like, can't do. But you actually, you had to take your phone because you had to live stream the whole thing on Instagram so everybody could watch to make sure you weren't doing anything.
Jason Kelsey
Awesome.
Travis Kelce
Well, that's kind of. Yeah. You can get some entertainment out of the live stream itself.
Caitlin Clark
And then the other option was like, stand up comedy. And the IHOP, like 20. Like the IHOP pancake challenge where you have to, like, eat a certain am of pancakes.
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Caitlin Clark
So you had to do both of those, and then there was, like, one where you could, like, pay out a bunch of money and be like, I'm not doing any of it, but I'm paying a bunch of money and you can. We can be done with it. But I think the person that lost is going to have to do the bus ride. So.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, you got to make sure we know about that live stream, everybody.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, for sure. It'll be very exciting.
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Well, do you want to play a game that we have where you pick an NFL team? It's kind of randomized.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. We did this with. With Paul Rudd.
Jason Kelsey
I don't really know what it's called. What's this called?
Travis Kelce
NFL Perry. I. I don't know. It's weird. I don't know.
Jason Kelsey
We did it with Paul Ro. We both did it.
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Let's give it a go.
Travis Kelce
Basically, you accumulate points by just picking the best fantasy year of. You have to go ahead, Jason. You might be able to.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. You're trying to pick the. The best season of a player from whatever team shows up. Up. And it's from when fantasy football started. Yeah.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. Okay.
Jason Kelsey
Yes.
Caitlin Clark
How long has fantasy football been around?
Jason Kelsey
I think like, the 90s, it seems.
Travis Kelce
Like, like late 90s, early 2000s is when they're dating this back. Because there's a lot of players that we were hoping for that they didn't.
Jason Kelsey
Travis picked Emmett Smith, but it was not from, like, prime Emmett Smith years, unfortunately.
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
And you have, like, positions and you only get to get. You only get to pick one. Like, so if you have a tight end, let's say, and the. And you pick like, the Chiefs for that position. Like, that's. You don't get to pick another tight end in a sense, but you get two flexes, so technically you can. I'm gonna stop confusing you. I think the game explains itself.
Caitlin Clark
Houston Texans. Oh, geez.
Travis Kelce
You also get one pass if you.
Jason Kelsey
Want to phone a friend too.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah. You guys might have to help me out with this. Let's build it together. I'm trying to think.
Jason Kelsey
So I'm thinking receiver. Trav, who do you think?
Travis Kelce
Houston Texans, maybe Andre Johnson. Arian Foster is a running back. That was. That might have had a bunch of touchdowns. Touchdowns are king. Touchdowns are king. Your flex. You can have a running back, wide receiver, or a tight end. So it's kind of. It's kind of like you want to. I don't.
Jason Kelsey
You kind of want to. I feel that you want to save the flex positions a little bit because.
Caitlin Clark
I'm used to there being a defense on your fantasy team, which I like, obviously hated. I was shoes. Don't the. Didn't the usually have a good defense? They had a good defense.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. This year I think they're like one of the statistically like one of the best defenses since the year 2009. Like, they have been very good.
Caitlin Clark
Okay, you guys pick on this one.
Jason Kelsey
I need team Johnson. All right.
Travis Kelce
Andre Johnson. Andre Johnson.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, man. Not bad.
Travis Kelce
Buffalo Bills. Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
You're a big Bills fan. I know that, right?
Travis Kelce
Think early Josh Allen era, though.
Narrator/Announcer
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Jason Kelsey
You can also.
Travis Kelce
You can also go Josh Allen for quarterback, too. I mean, he's a fantasy.
Jason Kelsey
He's a very good fantasy quarterback.
Caitlin Clark
Okay, let's put Josh Allen at quarterback because if I do get the Chiefs, obviously I. I'm going to put Trav.
Jason Kelsey
San Francisco.
Caitlin Clark
There's been a lot of good 49ers players, haven't there?
Travis Kelce
There hasn't been. But.
Jason Kelsey
But you got to think of Christian.
Caitlin Clark
McCaffrey at running back.
Travis Kelce
McCaffrey. Do you already know. I was going to say he racks up points.
Jason Kelsey
Yes, he does.
Caitlin Clark
Raiders.
Travis Kelce
See, that's the thing. Is it going Oakland too, or is it just the Vegas.
Jason Kelsey
This goes to Oakland for sure.
Caitlin Clark
You got this one. I'm not as familiar with the Raiders the trap should be considering these. We've played him twice.
Travis Kelce
Been a very rough, rough go around for the Raiders since I've been in.
Jason Kelsey
So you got running back. You'd be. Marshawn lynch was probably the best one, but he was better in Seattle.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. I don't know if his numbers are.
Jason Kelsey
With the Raiders receivers over there. Yes. Why can't I think of his name?
Travis Kelce
It's going to be a tough one if you can't think of his name. I know now, Brock Bowers had a.
Caitlin Clark
Hell, I was gonna say Brock Bowers. He had a game where he had like 50 fantasy points, but I don't know how he's done the rest of the year.
Travis Kelce
Like, almost 200 yards and three touchdowns in that game. I don't know if that's going to be a.
Caitlin Clark
That's probably not worth.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, last year he had a lot of.
Caitlin Clark
We need somebody that's had a solid year. Should we pass? Should we pass?
Jason Kelsey
It's not a bad pass.
Travis Kelce
You get one pass.
Jason Kelsey
Who was the receiver on the The. When they won with Rich Gannon? Who was the receiver?
Travis Kelce
Tim Brown.
Jason Kelsey
Tim.
Travis Kelce
Yes, but I don't know if Tim Brown. Let's pass.
Jason Kelsey
Let's pass. Yeah. I don't know when. Yeah, well, we're not picking tight end. We're not picking tight end.
Travis Kelce
You also. You also got to think you're probably going to get more out of Tyreek Hill in this situation.
Caitlin Clark
We're not.
Travis Kelce
You might not. You might not.
Caitlin Clark
Put them on there.
Jason Kelsey
Come on. I just want to see what it is.
Travis Kelce
I know. Me, too.
Jason Kelsey
Look at that. Almost the same as Andre Johnson.
Travis Kelce
Got to get more touchdowns.
Jason Kelsey
All right, Commanders.
Caitlin Clark
Commanders. Oh, geez.
Jason Kelsey
And we're looking for receivers or running backs or tight ends. I guess you can put a flex.
Travis Kelce
Also football team. Also football team.
Jason Kelsey
Also football team. I mean, McLaren had a good year last year.
Travis Kelce
Clinton Portis.
Jason Kelsey
Who else? Clinton Portis. That's a very good pull.
Caitlin Clark
You guys are pulling. Some people I haven't heard of.
Travis Kelce
Portis legend. He's a character.
Caitlin Clark
Okay, you guys pick this one.
Travis Kelce
Jason, you got anybody else?
Jason Kelsey
I think you're right. I think Portis, in the flex is probably the right pick.
Travis Kelce
Oh, that one's tough.
Jason Kelsey
Not great.
Travis Kelce
That one in the three hundreds is a tough.
Jason Kelsey
It's not good, I think.
Travis Kelce
I mean, you pick your poison here. You got a bunch.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah. Jason, this is all you. You should be able to get us the most amount of points.
Jason Kelsey
I'm trying to think of who who scored the most touchdowns. Like, that's really what it comes down.
Travis Kelce
To be shady, right?
Jason Kelsey
Well, shady is definitely a great choice. Terrell Owens is. I don't know what his touchdowns were, though. Deshawn. I got Philly and I took. Hertz was a good quarterback for this game.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
I mean, running backs, I feel like get you the most points because they get the most touchdowns.
Travis Kelce
Deuce Daily, Brian Westbrook.
Jason Kelsey
I think it's. I think shady. I think Shady's a good choice. Sean McCoy.
Caitlin Clark
Boy, let's see how many points he gets us.
Jason Kelsey
Here we go. Terrell, do you want to go?
Travis Kelce
Terrell with wide receiver?
Jason Kelsey
Let's get receiver out. Let's get receiver out. Let's go. Terrell Owens.
Caitlin Clark
All right, then.
Jason Kelsey
We keep the flex alive.
Travis Kelce
Oh, my God, I've screwed us.
Caitlin Clark
Chargers.
Travis Kelce
Chargers. Who's Antonio Gates? No. Lt. Lt. That's the easy one. That'll be a monster.
Jason Kelsey
This is gonna be huge.
Travis Kelce
Does it beat the high score?
Caitlin Clark
Is that a good score?
Travis Kelce
Oh, it is a very solid score. Very solid score.
Caitlin Clark
Who has the high score?
Travis Kelce
Brandon. He plays this game all day, though. He knows exactly. That's not Brandon. Where did we go wrong? Brandon? Where did we go wrong?
Brandon
Technically, Jake, I think, has got me beat by a little bit. I think the picks you might want to rethink would have been Andre Johnson. You could have gone Aryan Foster. Terrell Owens. You should have gone Saquon.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, yeah. Up Saquon. Wouldn't have got as many points as lt, though.
Travis Kelce
No, no.
Brandon
So, yeah, so it's kind of a pick your poison. The tough one is when you get Washington. I'm just gonna be honest.
Travis Kelce
That's Washington. The Raiders.
Brandon
I think Terry McLaren might have a little higher than Clinton Portis.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, that was the other name we threw out. Dang. All right.
Brandon
The Kelsey picks actually really good.
Caitlin Clark
Is this just online? I'm gonna make people search.
Travis Kelce
I'm about to say yeah, yeah. NFL perry.com.
Brandon
Sorry I've ruined your life.
Jason Kelsey
This is.
Caitlin Clark
I'm gonna be like this all night.
Travis Kelce
There's multiple apps.
Jason Kelsey
Is there a basketball version of this?
Travis Kelce
I think so.
Brandon
There's gotta be.
Caitlin Clark
That's kind of fun.
Brandon
Guy, who made this game? I know you watched the show. Make a basketball one. Jason, do you want to open that gift?
Travis Kelce
Jason, you want to open the gift?
Jason Kelsey
Can I open the box you sent us on Christmas?
Caitlin Clark
Yes. Is that all right?
Jason Kelsey
I do it technically. I was told I was supposed to open this on Christmas, but I screwed that up, so I figured let's open this right now, live on air.
Travis Kelce
Oh, yeah.
Caitlin Clark
You should have had your girls open it for you.
Jason Kelsey
Girls?
Caitlin Clark
Are they getting into any sports yet or anything?
Jason Kelsey
So they've done soccer. Gymnastics is the one they like the most right now.
Caitlin Clark
Soccer is, like, always the first sport that kids play. Like, just go send them out there and, like, run around.
Jason Kelsey
I feel like early on, trying to do, like, coordination, right? Dance, gymnastics, run around, kick a ball. We got, like, one of the. What are those? What are, like, the little Papa Shots. We've done that.
Caitlin Clark
Oh, nice. That's cute.
Travis Kelce
Have they gotten their first field hockey stick yet, is the question.
Caitlin Clark
Ooh, field hockey isn't that huge in Philly, Isn't it.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. Kylie. Kylie is a huge.
Caitlin Clark
Iowa actually had a really good field hockey program.
Jason Kelsey
Really?
Caitlin Clark
Yeah. Which is like shocking, but like. Yeah, huge. Like we're always ranked like top five in the country, so.
Travis Kelce
Top five.
Caitlin Clark
I've been to a few field hockey games in my day. There you go.
Travis Kelce
Let's go. All this guy does is go to the beach.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, there you go. I know. Timeout. Friendship bracelet. Yes.
Travis Kelce
This guy's never been this hype for president in his life.
Caitlin Clark
Yeah, they got the hoop in there. There we go.
Travis Kelce
Oh, let's go. You could just put that at 10ft. Work on dunking on that.
Jason Kelsey
This is right up my alley too.
Caitlin Clark
There we go.
Jason Kelsey
Talk about one hand shots. So we're going to put it right in the dog crate.
Travis Kelce
Brick.
Caitlin Clark
Come on.
Jason Kelsey
It's a brick.
Travis Kelce
Boom.
Jason Kelsey
Over the shoulder.
Travis Kelce
See, this is when the one top of the key.
Caitlin Clark
This is when the one hand matters more. Cuz you don't shoot a papa shot with two hands.
Jason Kelsey
You just. Ben, you want to take a shot? It's a gift from our friend Caitlyn. Come on.
Travis Kelce
Come on.
Caitlin Clark
Take a shot.
Jason Kelsey
Come on, Benny. Oh, she's running. Wyatt.
Jake
Jesus.
Jason Kelsey
Quiet.
Travis Kelce
He's got reinforcement.
Jason Kelsey
We need somebody to come down and shoot a basketball.
Travis Kelce
We need. It's a must.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, my gosh. You are wearing the perfect attire. Come down here.
Caitlin Clark
Oh, no.
Jason Kelsey
All right.
Caitlin Clark
Oh, yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Let's see it. Let's see it. Show off your form.
Travis Kelce
Let's see it. Why?
Caitlin Clark
Oh, got their muscle muscles going.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, that's right. Like my daddy. One hand.
Travis Kelce
She's like firing at it.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, come on. Back to the two ass. Come on. You got it. You got it, girly.
Caitlin Clark
Oh, did you make it?
Travis Kelce
Yeah, I think it rimmed out. Oh, that was awesome though. That was a close one.
Caitlin Clark
Full on baseball. Chuck, you're doing great.
Travis Kelce
You're. You're killing it.
Caitlin Clark
Let's go.
Jason Kelsey
Go.
Travis Kelce
Nice job.
Caitlin Clark
That was awesome.
Travis Kelce
Nice. You're the best. Why Adorable.
Caitlin Clark
She's got a future, Jason.
Travis Kelce
So we'll just cut that up to where we only see the. That last shot. And that's how that. That's how the magic works.
Jason Kelsey
This is what we're going to be doing the rest of the night. So.
Caitlin Clark
That's cute.
Travis Kelce
The. The dress, the. Just the rocket of an arm though. She's got it. I can see it. She's got a talent.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Kylie could throw a ball. We were on the beach. She might have a better arm than I do. It is crazy.
Travis Kelce
Those rotator cuffs.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you very much. Caitlyn, did you have a good Christmas?
Caitlin Clark
I did. I was in Florida with my family, so we were just down there chilling, hanging out. So it was nice to get. Get in some warm weather and taking a little time off after the USA Basketball stuff I had and now just pick back up and get ready for the season. I guess it's going to be here in a couple months, so. And you guys are welcome to a game anytime. Time.
Travis Kelce
Come on now.
Jason Kelsey
Absolutely.
Travis Kelce
You know we're there. Yeah, you know we're there. Absolutely rocking the CC1s on the hardwood.
Caitlin Clark
That's right. That's right.
Travis Kelce
Let's go.
Jason Kelsey
I gotta get the CC1 so I can dunk. That's what's happening.
Caitlin Clark
You need that new technology. It's just gonna bring you up there, Jason.
Jason Kelsey
Perfect. Exactly.
Travis Kelce
Well, we appreciate you jumping on with us. Can't wait to see the CC1s and everybody go check it out on Nike right now. Wishing you the best of luck.
Caitlin Clark
Thanks for having me.
Travis Kelce
Dude, Caitlin is so awesome. She gets it and I can't wait for the CC1, baby.
Jason Kelsey
Let's go. Come on now. I'm gonna need him. I gotta be able to dunk. I don't know I'm gonna be able to do it without him. All right, that wraps up new news brought to you by Nike. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, Nike.
Travis Kelce
In this episode, you got to hear our conversation with the legendary Caitlin Clark and our experience being in her Christmas campaign for Nike, Nikki from Anywhere.
Jason Kelsey
It was a great experience and a great message. Caitlyn's beginnings may have been humble, but her dreams never were.
Travis Kelce
She turned driveway buckets into record breaking shots. Filling field house bleachers, then selling out stadiums.
Jason Kelsey
That's right. Caitlin proves that dreams are never out of range.
Travis Kelce
Man, she's such an inspiration to all the people out there. And I really resonate with her mentality about getting 1% back better every single day.
Jason Kelsey
Shout out to Nike. And shout out to Caitlyn for being such good friends of the show and having us be a part of the from anywhere campaign.
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Jason Kelsey
All right, everyone. We got some new news from Nhlatia team and this one's pretty awesome.
Travis Kelce
That's right. For the first time ever, the NHL is bringing the Winter Classic to South Florida. Ice in Florida. Doesn't sound like it's going to work, but outdoor hockey in Miami in January. We're going to have to tune in to see how they pulled this one off.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, you got the two time defending champs Florida Panthers and friend of the show, Matthew Kachuk take on the New York Rangers, one of the original six teams in the NFL, NHL.
Travis Kelce
And the uniforms for this game are legit. Oh, yeah, that's right. The Panthers are dropping a new look that mixes those old school Florida hockey vibes with the nods to their history.
Jason Kelsey
Love it. Yeah. And the Rangers are rolling out the special centennial jersey inspired by the early days of the franchise.
Travis Kelce
It's going to look different, feel a little different, and it's one you don't want to miss.
Jason Kelsey
Watch the Discover NHL Winter Classic January 2nd at 7pm Eastern on TNT, True TV and HBO. Max, hockey being played outdoors is just something special. Special.
Travis Kelce
Dude, if I could go, I'd be there.
Jason Kelsey
Check it out. All right, Trav, now that you've seen the video evidence of me jumping and attempting to dunk, what do you think.
Travis Kelce
Of the chance you're further away than I thought you were? Dude, I'm not gonna lie, man. But I will say this. I will say this. You are jumping like you've never jumped before in your life. Not like I'm like, no, you look like a baby deer jumping. Like, we need to get you. We need to get. That's what I'm saying. You're very uncoordinated. We need to get you into like. Like the. The good gather Step into the power jump with two. Right now you're. You don't have the, like, right mechanics.
Jason Kelsey
The athleticism is so bad. It just went so quick.
Travis Kelce
You're naturally quick. When you found out the fundamentals for the cone drill, you set the record in the combine. So it's like we just need you to get. You have the power. You're up there. We got the slow mo replay to help us see that you're up there. We just got to get you to time it up right and get the fundamentals right.
Jason Kelsey
So we did do the vertex. Here's the crazy. You know, the vertex where you, like, stand and jump and touch the things. So from standing, like, not moving and.
Travis Kelce
Jumping, how are you getting.
Jason Kelsey
I'm over ten foot. Just standing.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, dude, that's fine. You need to get a basketball in the hoop. I'd probably say you need to get to, like, 10, 10, 6. 10, 6 makes sense. But I think you need to get a little higher.
Jason Kelsey
Here's what's crazy, though. Just standing and jumping. I'm over 10 foot, running and jumping and doing the same test. I only got, like, an inch and a half higher. Like, I should be able to gain more. More height by running and jumping, right?
Travis Kelce
You would think, but I think it's. It's all dependent upon your body, like, type and your athleticism. Right now you're just an athlete. You're a powerful athlete.
Jason Kelsey
That's what I'm saying. If I get more efficient at it, I should be able to get that higher. Right.
Travis Kelce
I would say you're gonna produce more momentum, which will then get you higher. Yes. But I think for a guy like you, you really only need two to three steps into a good, powerful base piece. I'll put together a tutorial, and I'll get back to you and I'll. I'll help you with some of the gather steps into the power.
Jason Kelsey
There's an Instagram clip that talks about the penultimate step, which I think is what you're talking about, where they do this gather. That's why I wanted to ask Caitlyn about the. I've heard about the penultimate step and just see what.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, that would have been the best. She would have laughed in your face.
Jason Kelsey
I'm going deep into this.
Travis Kelce
Oh, no, she's. She's a pro. She might. She might have known.
Jason Kelsey
I've been looking up Jordan Drew drills. Did you ever do Jordan drills?
Travis Kelce
You're barking up the wrong tree.
Jason Kelsey
Okay.
Travis Kelce
You're going down the wrong road. You need to follow too much. You need to follow the fat boy role. All right? You're not Jordan. You don't have an ounce of Jordan in you other than the heart, the courage, and the dog.
Jason Kelsey
Where do I get the CC ones at?
Travis Kelce
That's a question for Caitlin. I don't know when they're coming out.
Jason Kelsey
Is there any way I can get a prototype size 14 in the next 30 days?
Travis Kelce
Let's think about this. Who jumps higher, Michael Jordan or Caitlin Clark? Want the Caitlyn Clarks or you want the Michael Jordans?
Jason Kelsey
Honestly, I want the Caitlyn Clarks. Let's get into this. Week 17, the NFL season. How's that sound, Trav?
Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelsey
You played on Christmas Day.
Travis Kelce
I did. And Christmas games are always as magical as they sound. Ben.
Jason Kelsey
It looked magical.
Travis Kelce
Arrowhead was rocking. The stadium was packed. Broncos fans were there. Chiefs fans were there. Everyone was having a merry old time. Obviously we didn't come out with the win, but man, was it. It was a fun night. I'm proud of the, the gang that, that we had and read out there trying to figure it out and, and come away with the victory. Obviously down a lot of big, big names, but led into the game by my guy, Chris Ola, Duke and man.
Jason Kelsey
We were playing some golf earlier this off season. I was looking forward to seeing him sling it a little bit.
Travis Kelce
That's right. Yeah, Chris is, he's, he's an awesome guy. He's been on the team for a while now and finally getting his opportunity to get some, some NFL experience, man, and it's just fun, you know what it's like. And I, and honestly I haven't had this feeling of like seeing a young guy at quarterback living out his dream. Just excited to be in the moment. Like we would come off the field and you could just see, man, this guy was loving every single moment even, even through the good or the bad. And it was just, it was awesome to get out there and, and rock with a man. And I was just proud of the way he handled the, the situation, handled the moment moment, obviously no turnovers and just gave us a chance to win at the end.
Jason Kelsey
He did. He did. What I, I wanted to ask you this because a lot of times like when you're on to the third string quarterback, he's usually a guy that hasn't had a lot of reps with the ones how many. I mean, I know he's been there for a while, but how many times have you caught a ball from Chris.
Travis Kelce
I'm a guy, I'm a busy body of practice. I like to get some work in. So during defensive periods, things like that, I'm, I'm usually around all the quarterbacks. So it wasn't the first time I'd ever, never caught a pass from him here or there. Like I've at least seen it come out of his hands and, and you know, throughout the week have worked with him enough to, to where it wasn't surprising seeing the ball coming out of his hands.
Jason Kelsey
Nice, nice.
Travis Kelce
He throws a good ball. And on top of that, man, he's, he's a gamer. He's gonna go out there and he's gonna have some fun. It's. I call it the Chris O Experience, baby. The Ola Duke experience. You know, know what's gonna happen. He's got that exciting playmaking ability.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
Because he's got, he's, he's, he's a mobile quarterback and he can get out of the pocket. He keeps his eyes downfield when he does. And he showcased a little bit of that this, this past Christmas.
Jason Kelsey
Ola Duke and I'm playing with Travis. I mean, yeah, he's the greatest tight end of all time. I'd be a fool not to lean on him a little bit. And he was just great the whole game.
Travis Kelce
Wish I could have been there for him a little bit more. But he still played his ass off a little more.
Jason Kelsey
It was like the entire two minute drive was throw the ball to the big Yeti.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. And I think the Chiefs, you know, for getting a little Travis chant going for, for me there, I think Coach Reed heard what wanted and man, if you guys could have done that, you know, the first like 12 years of my career, that have been awesome. No, I'm kidding. Coach Reed's always dialing me up and it's just whether or not the defense is, is the right defense for me to get the ball. But it was, it was fun that, that Chris was, you know, trying to find me. Knowing there was a fun little two minute drive till we did, till we came up short.
Jason Kelsey
One more game left in this season and you're headed to versus Vegas. What is, how we feeling heading into this one?
Travis Kelce
It's Vegas, man. It's Raiders, Raiders week, man. It's always no matter what the score is, obviously two teams where we know our season ends after this Sunday and you're just playing for the love of the game and the honor of wearing the, the Chiefs helmet in a fierce rivalry, man. And I Know, we've already beat him once. We gave him a goose egg. And they're going to be ready for this one. They're going to be excited for this one. And I know Pete Carroll is going to have those guys fired up and ready to rock and roll, knowing how motivating he is.
Jason Kelsey
Is.
Travis Kelce
And they're at home where they're comfortable and. And, yeah, I'm excited to go out to Vegas and. And finish this year out.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Well, you guys will be playing them without Max Crosby, who has unfortunately been placed on ir, which with what appears to be a devastating injury. I don't know if you saw this Instagram video of him really going through it, but we can play that right now. It's a shame, you know, he's just so handsome, pampered. You hate seeing it.
Travis Kelce
That boy's a baller. That boy's a baller.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, terrible defense.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, we gotta get in the stance. We gotta get in the better stance than that.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, good. Good effort, though. Good energy.
Travis Kelce
Look at him, dude. I've seen a bunch of clips of Max balling, man. Man, Max can play.
Jason Kelsey
I think what's more clear here is that Max probably is not hampered with much of an injury in that the Raiders are probably tanking.
Travis Kelce
Michigan guy, man, he just loves. He loves to play. Play the game of basketball, man.
Jason Kelsey
That's fair. I shouldn't lead to such conclusions.
Travis Kelce
It's unfortunate. Him and Brock Bowers both on ir. Brock, unbelievable player. I know he's got to get some stuff fixed, and I know Max has got to get some stuff fixed, but two fierce competitors. I guarantee you'll be back out there next year rocking and rolling.
Jason Kelsey
Trav, congrats on another Pro bowl selection. Way to go, big Yeti. What number is this for you?
Travis Kelce
10, maybe.
Jason Kelsey
You hit a decade. You've been in the Pro bowl for a decade. Jesus, Travis. Well, you led fan voting for the second year in a row.
Travis Kelce
I think that's what got me in.
Jason Kelsey
I. It does count for a large chunk. I used to think that, too, but I think I've seen somebody win the fan vote and not get in before. I think I saw that one time. Anyways, Creed Humphrey, Chris Jones, and Trey Smith are also in. Oh, this is also your 11th Pro bowl, so you've actually been in so many times, you've forgotten how many times you've been there. You've played in, what, one Pro Bowl? I think I was at it, too, in Hawaii.
Travis Kelce
I played in two. I played in one with you in Orlando. We played against Each other.
Jason Kelsey
We did. We did. Was that the following year?
Travis Kelce
Yeah, it was the first year. It was in Orlando.
Jason Kelsey
It was 20. It was 27, 16. That's what year it was.
Travis Kelce
Yep.
Jason Kelsey
And you were In Hawaii, what, 20? 14 or 15.
Travis Kelce
It was 15. So the year of 14. Season of 14. 15 in Hawaii and then the season of 16 or 15 in Orlando and 16.
Jason Kelsey
Because I went. When the Pro bowl was in Arizona, then it went back to Hawaii. Where you went. We both went out there together.
Travis Kelce
I personally thought I got snubbed for that Arizona Pro bowl, but whatever, that's what it worked.
Jason Kelsey
I got snubbed. I got snubbed the year before.
Travis Kelce
There were a few guys that got snubbed last year that I got snuck in there.
Jason Kelsey
It happens every year. I'm. The year that we played against each other in Orlando. I had one of the worst years of my career. When they said, you're an alternate for the Pro bowl. And they said, hey, the other two guys are out. You're in the Pro Bowl. I was like, this is fucking crazy. I do not deserve to be here at all. I'll be there.
Travis Kelce
I won the Pro Bowl MVP. Got the car with a whopping 33 yards in one touch. Touchdown and two first downs.
Jason Kelsey
Wow.
Travis Kelce
Had a fake field goal that got me three yards on a first down. Got a deep cross thrown to me by Andy Dalton. The Red Rocket. Go, Andy. And that was it.
Jason Kelsey
Congratulations on making the Pro Bowl, Trav. You want to move on to some other NFL news?
Travis Kelce
Yeah, let's move on to Eagles. Bills. What a showstopper. It actually was an entertaining game. It was. There's a lot of shit going on.
Jason Kelsey
Crazy second half.
Travis Kelce
Jalen hurts, Josh Allen. Gotta see primetime football. Fucking love it. And it was only Eagles 13, Bills 12. And it came down to the last two minute or. Yeah, last last minute drive with Josh Allen and two point conversion.
Jason Kelsey
I mean, it's a great win. They beat the Eagles. Beat the Bills. Who are a lot of people saying? The number one favorite out of the afc. A lot of people think that it's Josh Allen's year. So for the Eagles to go into Buffalo and win this game. Game just shows, you know, how good the Eagles are. Do you know tough it is to beat the best team in the afc? Some people are saying. Some people are saying, do you know how hard is to beat that team while you don't get a single pass completion in the second half, Joe? Hard.
Travis Kelce
That is.
Jason Kelsey
That's how good the Eagles are. That's how good we are.
Travis Kelce
Philadelphia, they went over in the second half.
Jason Kelsey
Half. It's actually the second time we've won a game this year without completing a pass in the second half, which is remarkable.
Jake
What?
Jason Kelsey
That's how good we are, bro.
Travis Kelce
This offense is too good, dude. That is insane.
Jason Kelsey
It is. It's kind of crazy.
Travis Kelce
I was watching the game, I didn't even notice that.
Jason Kelsey
It's just like three and out. And then before you know it, you've had like. I think they only had like 17 plays in the entire second half.
Travis Kelce
So.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, not good. Not good. And most of it. Listen, I think I thought Jalen actually played pretty good. So that stat kind of you would think would be quarterback driven.
Travis Kelce
And they were. Rainy game. We're running the football, had the lead.
Jason Kelsey
But the run game, I mean, it was like. It was bad, bad. And especially in the second half. And not just like these like two to three yard runs, but like negative runs where you're in second and 12, you're in second and 13. And I just, you know, it was a very frustrating game to watch offensively, to say the least.
Travis Kelce
Buffalo's got some guys with some motors on that D line, man, they can be disruptive, man. Tall guys, long arms.
Jason Kelsey
The Eagles have been trending better in running the ball right. They've. They did well against the Raiders. They did well against the Commanders. This is the chance to do it against a team that is going to be in the playoffs. And it was a little frustrating seeing the performance, to be honest with you, and credit to the Bills. I thought they did some things. Things. They kept putting the safety down and then they blitzed from the other side and it messed them up a number of times. They were slanting the front and that was throwing them off. It's just, you know, these are things that you would hope they'd be able to handle at this time of the year. And it was a frustrating game to see them have opportunities to have plays right. Like you get a. You run an outside zone away from a nickel pressure. That is a chance to be a gash if you block it upright. But because they're not on the same page stage, the. Because the safety showing. He's down over here, the tight end tackler going to the safety. The backside knows the nickel pressure's coming. They're boxing. Nobody's blocking the middle linebacker. Yeah, like, I'm like, what are we doing, guys?
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
And it's communication like that. Guys are being let run free. Like, was there a. Did we zone this off? Why is nobody blocking the Three technique. Why is. It's just. It was a, it was not a great performance collectively up front, to be honest with you. And that was. It's frustrating as a former offensive lineman, a guy in that room and like, knows how good all those players are, where it's like, dude, we, we gotta be better than this, boys.
Travis Kelce
Listen, good teams find a way to win those games when they're not at their best. And that's what Philly did, man.
Jason Kelsey
Well, the positive is we, we held Josh Allen the best rushing attack. Like, we weren't great against, against Chicago. Right. Chicago ran all over us. We go out there against James Cook and Buffalo, who's had a great ground game all season.
Travis Kelce
Oh, yeah.
Jason Kelsey
And we perform really well.
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Have a great goal line stand. Fourth down, keep Josh Allen out of the end zone. Great tackle by Zach Bond. Blocked field goal. Like the defense played out of their mind. And that's the positive coming out of this thing.
Travis Kelce
I'll tell you what, going into that last drive though, man, it just looked like prime. Josh. Josh Allen, man, guys showed some resilience and showed some fight, showed some heart knowing that he's. He's got the foot issue right now and. Or it looked like he got rolled up pretty good in there and just fighting through everything. And I know he's kicking himself. You could see him kicking himself after that, that two point conversion. But I've been there and. And you already know he's going to learn from it and keep it moving.
Jason Kelsey
What do you think of the two point conversion call? We were talking about this on Monday Night Countdown. What. What do you think of McDermott's choice?
Travis Kelce
Dude, what you got? Fucking Josh Allen.
Jason Kelsey
Allen.
Travis Kelce
Are you kidding me?
Jason Kelsey
Every time.
Travis Kelce
Every time. Not even think about it.
Jason Kelsey
The Eagles had like two first downs. The second half, you don't feel comfortable going into overtime.
Travis Kelce
I feel so comfortable with a guy like Josh Allen and the ball in his hands and two yards to get.
Jason Kelsey
They'd already had a goal line stand in the exact same two yards.
Travis Kelce
That's why I might be the worst head coach of all time. It's just, I'm. Dude, I'm like, I'm putting for it. You kidding me? What is that? What are we that could end up it here? No, I got ball players.
Jason Kelsey
I'm kind of just messing around.
Travis Kelce
Honestly, if he's a mobile quarterback, I'm feeling even more confident because there's the threat. If you drop everybody and all that, it's like he could still find a way to, to run it in or get out of the pocket and make something shake.
Jason Kelsey
So when you make this decision, it's always going to be damned if you do, damned if you don't. If it doesn't work out, everybody's going to say it was the wrong call. If you make the play, the play was open, like it's there, right? Just missed the throw.
Travis Kelce
And you could play devil advocate and say, you know, they just blocked a field goal before that, they just blocked extra point or whatever before that.
Jason Kelsey
The one thing that I thought was interesting that we kind of got to on the desk last night was I think it's actually probably a better call that they went for it too because like at some point like this, everybody's saying this is Josh's year to try and go win this thing, right? Mahomes is out of it. You know, Burrow's out of it.
Travis Kelce
Anytime Josh Allen's playing the game of football, it's his year. That guy, he's got that ability.
Jason Kelsey
As with anything, the more reps you get in certain scenarios, usually the better and more comfortable you are operating them in the future. So now like obviously this one didn't work out for Josh. He didn't. He's got, gets pressured on his right, he's moving to his left, tries to make the throw and it's a little bit off target in terrible conditions. This is, this same scenario might come up in a gotta have it moment in the playoffs. And now this entire team has had a rep of this and maybe they feel even more comfortable now repping it again when it matters most. So that was another reason I thought, you know what, maybe I'm kind of more on board than I thought with McDermott deciding to go for it. So in the end I kind of agree with you.
Travis Kelce
Eagles got the commanders at home for the last game of the season and I'm sure the link will be rocking for that one could move up to the second seed with a win and the Bears losing, losing which could be happen.
Jason Kelsey
They're going to be playing Detroit. The Eagles will probably be resting starters. Like I don't think that we're going to see a lot of significant players playing in this one.
Travis Kelce
Like we had a game like this and like me, like the coach came in and it was like we're, we were heavy in the, in the first half to where the, where, where we had a comfortable lead or like we, and then we, we let all the other games kind of play out and see where they were at at half and so who knows, we did the.
Jason Kelsey
Same thing in 2023 when I was my last year and we decided to go out against New York because we wanted to get some momentum going offensively because we weren't playing great. And we ended up getting A.J. brown hurt to where he couldn't play in the playoff game. Jalen got his finger banged up like it was catastrophic. So I am fully on board with do not risk in anybody, anybody you don't want and are not going to be happy about missing for that playoff game. Sit them on the bench if you don't. If unless you have a chance to get the one seed, I don't give a crap who you're playing. Take the rest when you can get it. I believe the Rams have already said that they're going to go in playing to win. Right. So they're going to be playing starters. San Francisco and Seattle are going to be playing to try and get the.
Travis Kelce
One seed and that's huge.
Jason Kelsey
That's huge. So the Eagles have a chance to rest and then play a team from the west coast, likely who's going to be traveling to the east coast. And you're going to play them on a week where they just played previously and you've gotten a weaker rest. Yeah, I think that's a big advantage and I would take that if I was the Eagles.
Travis Kelce
The reality of it is, is that you can't just rest everyone. So guys are going to be out there playing. So you got to be. You got to be kind of smart with the position that you're putting your guys in. And at the same time, you. You still want to go out there and win the football game and, and give yourself a chance at the 2.
Jason Kelsey
I'm be honest too. I think resting some guys, we can still win this game against Washington. I'm not trying to Washington say anything.
Travis Kelce
It's football, man. Anything can happen no matter who's out there. Look at San Fran right now. They're rocking and rolling and they've had offenses the worst of kind of injuries. Yeah, that was a crazy game.
Jason Kelsey
I was. That was my. That was my biggest surprise of the year is that San Fran is competing for the NFL. They've lost for best Fred Warner. Nick Bosa, their starting quarterback, has been out for eight games. Brock Purdy's missed. They've missed George Kittle for a lot of the season. Trent Williams went down last. Last week, first play of the game. So, like, the fact that these dudes are still like 12 wins competing for the NFC title, like, is nuts.
Travis Kelce
Kyle Shanahan and you Got to give.
Jason Kelsey
John lynch some credit to building a deep roster. Able to overcome it, right?
Travis Kelce
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Like if they don't have Mac Jones, maybe they aren't sitting where they're at. Right. But they go and get him in the off season. He plays well when Brock goes down. I mean, it's been, this is probably the most impressive season I've seen from the 49ers, just with all of these things factored in. Right. Like, it's crazy. Like they've had a super team and like, of course they've been successful with a great coach and great players. But this, this year, the fact that they've still been this consistently good with all of the injuries and, you know, adversity they've had to overcome. Very impressive.
Travis Kelce
A big week. 18 games coming up. Broncos Chargers could decide the the one seed that is Denver wins. They clinch the number one seed. And Chargers have said they are resting their starters. So I wouldn't just go in there lollygagging around. I know Harbaugh is going to have them boys fired up and ready to rock and roll no matter who's out there rolling. And Trey, Lance, Lance, Trey, Lance, he's. He's come in and he's shown he's got some spark. Sunday Night Football Steelers Ravens Winner wins the AFC North Loser eliminated from the playoffs. That is going to be a fun game to watch. Old school. AMC North. When to get in? Are you kidding me? Oh God. Gets me fired up, man. Reminds me of the Rothlis Burger and Ray Lewis dude days, man.
Jason Kelsey
I'm going to watch the game just because I always get excited to watch the Steelers and Ravens play. And I'm an A. I grew up in the AFC North.
Travis Kelce
Come on now, baby. You already know.
Jason Kelsey
But like I don't, let's be honest. Are either of these two teams going to be competing for it at the end of the day this year? Like, it's kind of like the NFC south where, I don't know. The Steelers were looking pretty good before DK got suspended though. They were having a good finish to the season.
Travis Kelce
Darnell Washington's out too, man. That dude. 300 pound tight end running the season.
Jason Kelsey
He's a beast.
Travis Kelce
And Ravens not sure if Lamar Jackson is playing or not.
Jason Kelsey
If Derek Henry and you got Patrick Ricard leading the way and they're running like they did last week. I mean it. That was an impressive performance by those guys.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, but Lamar Jackson's Lamar Jackson, if he's playing, it's a completely different game. Saturday. Bucks Panthers of the Panthers win. They're in.
Jason Kelsey
Well, they've done everything they can to not get in. They've lost twice to the Saints. Right. Like, it's the. The fact that this conference, this division is still up for grabs is bonkers. The Bucks, who I love. I mean, the Bucks are my favorite team coming into the season and they have fallen off a cliff. They've had injuries all season. They haven't played great down the stretch here. Baker is one of my favorite quarterbacks in the league. It has not been a great second half of the season for the Bucks. Panthers have had every opportunity the last few weeks to clinch this thing. Not even playing like top opponents in a lot of this stuff, and they. They just refuse to clinch it. It's nuts. It is crazy. So, yeah, we're gonna see Bucks and Panthers duke it out to see who comes up on the NFC South. I will always root for the Bucks. I love Todd Bowles. I love Baker Mayfield.
Travis Kelce
Well, the Bucks are going to need the Saints to beat the Falcons on Sunday and a win against the Panthers themselves.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
And I'll tell you what they got. They got guys to where if the Bucks get in and they get rolling, that. That's a team you can't take lightly.
Jason Kelsey
They've just been banged up and it's. And it's kind of hurt them all season long and they haven't been themselves. Offensive line, they've had a bunch of injuries. They've lost. I think every one of their skill position players has been down at some point between Evans, Godwin, Igbuka, Irving. Like all of them at some point have gone. Gotten hurt. So it's. It's been a rough year for those guys. Guys. And you can see the frustration in some of the press conferences from Todd Bowles and you know, hopefully they can. They can get in there because I love those guys. And either way, looking forward to this one.
Travis Kelce
And we got a hell of a showdown on Saturday night, baby. The flex game is Niner Seahawks. The winner of the NFC west actually wins the number one seed in the nfc. So the winner of the Niners see Seahawks game is. Is, you know, gets to play all their games at home.
Jason Kelsey
The Seahawks defense is absurd. I mean, there's really three defenses have been the best in the NFL in my mind this year. And it's the Seahawks, Houston, and I'm going to go with the Eagles. I think those three teams have been like, their defense has won them so many games.
Travis Kelce
You can throw Denver up there, too.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, that's fair. That's Fair. The Niners offense is rolling. I could see this going either way. I really could. I do kind of lean Seahawks just because of how great their defense is. I. I don't think the Niners are going to come by points as easily as they have the last few weeks. And I think Darnold will be able to put up a good showing against this Niners defense that's been banged up.
Travis Kelce
Seahawks got two Cleveland guys, one Cincinnati Bearcat and Kobe Bryant. Are you kidding me, man? A.J. barner, tight end.
Jason Kelsey
Let's go.
Travis Kelce
I'm just kidding.
Jason Kelsey
What about. What about us? Check. Kyle Use checks. A Cleveland guy.
Travis Kelce
Cleveland guy. Medina guy. Yeah. Harvard guy. George Kittle, tight end. Yeah. I'm just gonna watch it for the love of it. You're right.
Jason Kelsey
I'm gonna just thoroughly enjoy this game. The Niners have been there and they've been so great for so long, although they've had adversity.
Travis Kelce
I thought you were talking about the Niners.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. Well, I was just saying the Niners, we've been there before.
Travis Kelce
Listening to each other.
Jason Kelsey
Probably not. Dude, think about this. Sam Darnold was in a Week 18 game to clinch the number one seed last year in that game. Game, followed by the playoff game, is essentially why he wasn't brought back in Minnesota. Right?
Travis Kelce
That's crazy.
Jason Kelsey
And now all of a sudden, he's in the exact same scenario week 18, and he's done the exact same thing to another team in Seattle.
Travis Kelce
Pay that man well.
Jason Kelsey
I just wanted to. I kind of wanted to work out for him. That's awesome.
Travis Kelce
And he's a good dude.
Jason Kelsey
Is there a lot of scoreboard watching in week 18? There definitely is. Like the Eagles will be watching the game in Chicago, most likely. Right. Any team that is been conveniently scheduled at the same time with the league office because they know that the seating and placements matter. There will be people watching the scoreboard all game long for sure.
Travis Kelce
Unless you do what the Panthers did last week and you don't show any games on the scoreboard.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, wow. Dave Canales.
Travis Kelce
I'm pretty sure we did that as well in a situation where the Patriots were playing the Dolphins and. And Kevin Harley Lynn, one of the best ever, in my opinion. I love that guy. Might be a little biased because he's a Kansas City guy, but also. No, he's a legend. And he was calling. He was literally calling both games at the same time on the Chiefs broadcast. He was watching the Dolphins game, calling that game. A play would happen in the Kansas City Game. He'd call that dude. It was awesome.
Jason Kelsey
Just a beast.
Travis Kelce
Yeah. And then you just randomly heard everyone in the stands start going nuts because the Ryan Fitz Magic and the. And the Miami Dolphins found a way to beat Brady and the Patriots, and we got the one seed.
Jason Kelsey
I never felt like watching the scoreboard took me out of the current game. Like, I was just like, all right, what's the score? Ooh. We can. If we a boys. If we go really hard for this next quarter and win this game, we're in.
Travis Kelce
I think the. The reason is because you should be thinking that regardless.
Jason Kelsey
I guess I'm. Maybe I'm just not against scoreboard watching. What's wrong with scoreboard watching?
Travis Kelce
Shout out to Fitz Magic, baby. I got to see him during the Christmas game last week. That was awesome.
Jason Kelsey
Which quarterback had the best o Christmas gifts? Caleb Williams gifted his offensive lineman Bottega.
Travis Kelce
Vanetti and Don Julio Bottega Veneta.
Jason Kelsey
What's Bottega Veneta?
Travis Kelce
It's a really, really nice brand. I have a few of their bags. It's awesome. They're awesome. They do everything. They make clothes, the sunglasses to.
Jason Kelsey
It's like a Louis Vuitton.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, it's very similar. They got. Well, in terms of, like, brand recognition and everything.
Jason Kelsey
Brandon Pulp is. But take a duffel bag. Give them some free advertising right now. Sounds like they need it.
Travis Kelce
That's what you pull up. That's what you pull up, Brandon.
Jason Kelsey
You think I'd be into that?
Travis Kelce
I said a duffel. I told you a duffel bag.
Jason Kelsey
You think I'm a mer.
Brandon
This is just the website.
Travis Kelce
I said duffel bag. You could have put Bottega Veneta duffel bag.
Jason Kelsey
If I pull up a company's website and that is the first thing on the page. Page. I don't even want to look at their duffel bags as they're making.
Travis Kelce
You ruined this, Brandon. You completely ruined this.
Brandon
It's a travel bags. You want me to click on.
Travis Kelce
Oh, my God. Just don't get out of the website.
Jason Kelsey
What the.
Travis Kelce
What's next? What else we got? Jacoby Brissette Christmas gifts to the Cardinals offensive line. Ramoa luxury suitcase, Versace robe, Bond number nine cologne. The guys are gonna be looking good, traveling, smelling good trip. Traveling and. Yeah, enjoying the nice Versace robe. I went for Sasha robe one year for. For a lot of the guys on the team. I think it was tight ends and quarterbacks and running backs maybe.
Jason Kelsey
Okay, okay.
Travis Kelce
They gotta. They got a lot of good versions, man. And luxury robes, man.
Jason Kelsey
Can't go wrong, dude. Josh Allen got his lineman one quarter of a cow. That's a great. That is a. It's a great gift for an old lineman.
Travis Kelce
It's a great gift, dude.
Jason Kelsey
As long as you got a deep freezer.
Travis Kelce
As I was about to say, as long as you got a fridge full enough for a hat. For a quarter of a cow.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
That's hilarious, dude. It's great beef. That's good stuff right there.
Jason Kelsey
All in on the beef. Mahomes gave out Hubolt watches. Full swing kit. Oh, nice.
Travis Kelce
Or beats headphones.
Jason Kelsey
Oakley meta glasses, nice Renault luggage. Renault was really going all in with the quarterbacks. All right. Aventon East Ebike. Nice.
Travis Kelce
The E bike was a hit. Guys were flying around on those outside the facility. Those things could go. Jared Goff custom golf carts. We've seen that one before. Seen that one before. Can always appreciate a nice custom golf cart.
Jason Kelsey
Aaron Rodgers can am off road, side by sides. Now that's a freaking can am.
Travis Kelce
What's a can am? Off road side by side?
Jason Kelsey
It's like. It's a. It's a quad. It's a quad.
Travis Kelce
Oh, nice. Hell yeah. That's badass ass thinking.
Jason Kelsey
Get after it.
Travis Kelce
Hell yeah, man.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, here we go. Here's the video. Oh, no, I'm wrong. These things are souped up.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, that thing.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, they're more like. They're more dune buggy ish.
Travis Kelce
Dude, that thing is sweet.
Jason Kelsey
Joe Burrow gave his offensive lineman actual prehistoric fossils. This is a first a for creativity.
Travis Kelce
Joe, would you. How would you feel if you got a fossil?
Jason Kelsey
I would be so excited. Are you kidding me?
Travis Kelce
You're into fossils. You're a big natural history museum guy.
Jason Kelsey
A the. The bones of a decayed animal from millions of years ago. I would love that.
Travis Kelce
Nice. All right, so you're not a flat earth guy. You believe that the earth has been around that long? Nice.
Jason Kelsey
Last year, Burrow gifted his old lineman an authentic Japanese katana sword. I saw that last year. Joe's creative with the gifts. He's a good gift giver. I like this.
Travis Kelce
Tom Brady and his team went undefeated. The undefeated year. I forget what year. It was like 0809 somewhere around there. And Brady got his entire offensive line new, brand new SUVs. But the kicker was that it was a one year lease.
Jason Kelsey
So what? So they just had to give them back.
Travis Kelce
I don't know if there was an option to where they could pay. They could pay the rest to like buy it.
Jason Kelsey
Well, it has to be right. There's always an option to buy.
Travis Kelce
I thought that was absolutely hilarious. And Tom was on the broadcast talking about beggars can't be choosers, Which. Dude, that's. Which is right. Dude. You got to appreciate your gift no matter what what it is if you gotta give it back.
Jason Kelsey
SUV for a year doesn't sound terrible.
James Austin Johnson
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
That's badass. Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
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Brandon
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Jason Kelsey
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Brandon
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Jason Kelsey
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Brandon
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Jason Kelsey
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Brandon
Don't lie.
Jason Kelsey
Jason, this is actually very good. I. I'm not a big fan of mixing protein with everyday items usually, but this, I could get on board with this. This is really tasty. You don't really notice the protein additive.
Brandon
That's what's so wild. Like, yeah, everything that's protein enhanced either has that grit or it's got that weird little artificial sweetness that you always like. You're like, oh, this is not a real thing. This is off. But it doesn't matter. However you want to level up your protein game, Starbucks is coming through. To help you out.
Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelce
Man, I could always go for somebody suggesting the best, you know?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, tell me what to read cuz I can't make decisions.
Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelce
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Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelce
Let's wrap up some football with our stamps of the week. Man. Stamp of the week is brought to you by the NHL on tnt. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, the NHL, one of our favorite sports is is in full swing. So don't miss the NHL Winter Classic, which is always one of the biggest hockey games that the NHL has. And it's outside, typically at a football stadium or a baseball stadium. I think football stadium is the only place I remember it. But either way, the Rangers are taking on the Panthers down there in Miami on January 2nd. So it'll be a little New Year's fun as always and on TN tea. But let's get to our stamps.
Jason Kelsey
I want to look at this video. There's, there's a nominee in here for a grandmother and I'm always in on that. Can we play that video? Let's see what the sweet old lady has to say. Judging by the description, it might not be so sweet. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, Right?
Travis Kelce
Grandma's got a foul mouth.
Jason Kelsey
What is it? Side. Did you sign it?
Travis Kelce
Yeah, it says signed Jersey right there on the.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, there we go. Nice grandma. Way to go. A little sign, Travis. Kelsey, she seemed pretty excited.
Travis Kelce
Yeah, she was pumped. She said, holy. Our grandma didn't cuss at all. Actually, she would say things like shoot and dart darn. But I'm with that kind of grandma, too.
Jason Kelsey
I am, for sure. Right up my alley.
Travis Kelce
Something tells me that Dad's mother might have been a little bit more on that side of the road.
Jason Kelsey
She ever had the cigarettes out of her mouth?
Travis Kelce
Maybe.
Jason Kelsey
I just remember going to that house and being like, I can't breathe. Like, what are we doing. For.
Travis Kelce
Yes, of course I remember walking to.
Jason Kelsey
That house down in Florida. What the.
Travis Kelce
I can't. You don't even need to spark another one. It's in here. Yeah, the smoke is in here.
Jason Kelsey
It's not left.
Travis Kelce
I spent more time on her porch down there than I did inside the house.
Jason Kelsey
Dude, it's nuts.
Travis Kelce
Shout out to Grandma Kelsey, though. She was awesome. Sweet woman. Sweet woman.
Jason Kelsey
It was a grandma fur, really. I think her name was Thelma Fir, if I'm not mistaken. Tells you a lot about that side of the family name alone. Thelma Fur. All right, well, she probably hails from Appalachia, some capacity. It's a hillbilly name if I've ever heard of a hillbilly name.
Travis Kelce
That was the West Virginia side.
Jason Kelsey
Thelma Fur. Oh, she's drinking some moonshine.
Travis Kelce
She's whipping that up. That's why dad wanted to go down there. He's trying to get some homemade moonshine.
Jason Kelsey
No doubt, no doubt. All right, who else do we got? Orlando Brown, Jr. Friend of the show. I once seen Cody Ford run, outrun a wild pit bull with a 24 pack of beer in his arms. They were glass bottles. Athlete.
Travis Kelce
Oh, dude, did you see this play? Dude, you have to watch this. They put them all the way out to the field or the three by and threw him a hitch. You gotta see this.
Jason Kelsey
All right, I see him down there at the bottom of the screen.
Travis Kelce
Joey B. Threw it to him. Give me these, boy. Get off me, son. Oh. Almost got in, dude.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, my God.
Travis Kelce
Dude, you gotta go for the legs. You gotta go for the legs. You can't. You can't go for the. You can't go for. For their. The stomach on a guy that big.
Jason Kelsey
That's amazing.
Travis Kelce
Oh, you gotta go with that one.
Jason Kelsey
I'm going Cody Ford. I was gonna go Vic Fangio, but after seeing a offensive lineman catch a hitch on the outside of 345, I don't know how I don't go with that one. All right, who do you got, Trev?
Travis Kelce
I'll go with Trey McBride, who broke Zach Ertz record for the most receptions by a tight end in one season. 116 Big Earths. He had that for. For a long time. And yeah, a guy who was in the. In the room with Zachary for. For a few years. Trey McBride took some notes from. From the old ball player while he was there in Arizona. And congrats, Trey. Man, that's a hell of a. Hell of an honor. Hell of an accomplishment, man. One of the best tight ends recently just got paid as the best tight end, which I'm proud as hell. Hell of him and couldn't be a better guy. And one hell of a football player. So Trey gets my stamp of the week, baby.
Jason Kelsey
All right, that does it for stamp of the week again. Stamp of the week is brought to you by NHL on TN. Again, don't miss the NHL Winter Classic between the Rangers and Panthers January 2nd on TNT. Let's get to some no dumb questions. All right? What do we want to hit? What do we want to hear? We got some no dumb questions. Would you rather be forced and tortured watching catching Kelsey on a loop for the rest of your life or get Brazilian waxed like Jason?
Travis Kelce
I'd rather get Brazilian waxed.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, just rip it off.
Travis Kelce
Are you kidding me?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Easy decision.
Travis Kelce
By the way, the guy that maybe not Brazilian wax, but a guy. We've mentioned Fitz multiple times. Did you see just got waxed. Did you see him get waxed on tv? Dude, I did.
Jason Kelsey
That's chest. I think chest might be worst.
Travis Kelce
Dude, it's so tender. Especially if you. If you like the hair long time.
Jason Kelsey
Get around that areola.
Travis Kelce
Oh, baby. Oh, baby. That thing might rip off. I think my rip off is so tender. Nobody wants to be walking around out here with no nips.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelce
All right. But yeah, I'd rather just get my. My goose.
Jason Kelsey
What was your favorite gift you've received for Christmas this year? Goes out to Jake and Brandon as well. Happy holidays. My favorite gift. My favorite gift is from Kylie. She submitted. So I liked a tweet from Kevin Nealon the other day who is now doing paintings. I don't know if you're aware of this, but on Twitter he has painted a bunch of celebrities and a very creative way and he was releasing them in like A like a. Almost like a sweepstakes kind of style. Like you submit your name and email, whatever and if you, if your email gets picked, you get a chance to buy the. Yeah, Prince and Kylie won one of them. So I'm getting an original Kevin Neal and print.
Travis Kelce
The best gift that I got was from Taylor, but it gives away things that we're trying to keep in house. So not going to say it and I love you type, but Austin, Austin got me a great gift as well.
Jason Kelsey
Swift's good gift givers.
Travis Kelce
They are great. They are great gift givers. Oh, Patrick Mahomes got the rest of the offense. Some. Some PlayStation fives and a portable PlayStation. Like a, like a suitcase that has. Has a screen and an area you could put the PlayStation. It's like a portable like gaming suitcase from. From Poga. From Poga. Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
That's cool. I really hope my girls get into video games because I just like I have not ever. I mean, we moved in this house in 2018 and I've never hooked up a video game console. Like, I miss playing video games and I just don't have the time to.
Travis Kelce
Really do it, you know, it's a fun one for everyone.
Jason Kelsey
What's that?
Travis Kelce
Mario Party?
Jason Kelsey
Mario Party would be nuts. They would lose their minds playing some Mario Party. Swell. I'm saying, Jake, Brandon, get in here. What are your favorite Christmas gifts? I feel like Jake's going to be a Super bowl ring. I think that was a great gift.
Jake
Super bowl ring might be up there for me, but I will sticking with the theme of everyone shouting out their significant others. I'll shout out my wife. There's a sandwich spot that opened in Florence. We went to the sandwich spot and they opened a place in LA and they're doing yes in Florence, Italy. And then they opened a place in LA and they're doing sandwich making classes where they teach you how to like make their own bread and like build sandwiches and stuff like that. And she got me a sandwich making class gift. So we're doing that together. We're going to learn how to make this authentic Italian bread.
Travis Kelce
I'm happy for you, Jake. You know you're going to learn how to make a sandwich.
Jake
We're a very big pro bread making podcast and I am, I'm very hyped on this gift.
Brandon
Jason shut all over it. Go ahead.
Jason Kelsey
If I gave that gift to Kylie, Kelsey, that was, hey, go learn how to make a better sandwich. Like, that was not gonna go over very well.
Brandon
Knew exactly where this was going.
Jake
It's better that the rules are reversed for sure.
Jason Kelsey
Man, I got a great idea for a gift. Kai, get to work.
Jake
I'm very hyped.
Travis Kelce
Brandon, you're next.
Brandon
Lauren got me a bird poster.
Travis Kelce
Birds. Birds.
Jason Kelsey
Noted birder.
Travis Kelce
Noted birder. Noted birder.
Brandon
Some of my favorite birds are on here.
Jason Kelsey
So wait. Time out. Some of your favorite birds. What are we looking at here?
Brandon
It's a. It's backyard LA birds. So yes, these are birds that I see frequently.
Jason Kelsey
Okay. What. Which ones are your favorites on this poster?
Brandon
Well, this is going to be a three hour episode. We're not going to have time for this.
Jason Kelsey
Well, just give us one or two Black Phoebe.
Brandon
These little bastards are great. Good little ins.
Travis Kelce
Is it. Is it the sound? What is. What's so great about it?
Brandon
They're little birds that basically they perch on little low things in your yard and they just eat bugs all day so you can just watch them like dive bomb your grass all day.
Travis Kelce
They're little. They're cool.
Brandon
They clean house. They're great birds.
Travis Kelce
Nice.
Brandon
And then, if we're being honest, these little guys, the Cooper's Hawk, great bird. They eat rats out of the yard. These guys are the best.
Travis Kelce
These guys are badass.
Brandon
Annihilate small little rodents.
Jason Kelsey
Maybe that's what I should be going instead of. Kylie wants to get a. A cat for keeping mice out of the house. Just get a falcon. Be a. Become a.
Travis Kelce
Falcons aren't in your basement, Jason, you need. You need a cat. Falcons aren't in your basement.
Jason Kelsey
They don't need to be in the basement if they prevent the rats from getting to the basement.
Brandon
Yeah, you're gonna want a falcon.
Jason Kelsey
Nice top, rats.
Travis Kelce
Let's get you a falcon outside of that poster. Brandon, what's your favorite bird of all time?
Brandon
Favorite bird of all time? Ooh, I'll go for any kind of owl. But like, seeing a great horned owl is great.
Travis Kelce
Good bird.
Jason Kelsey
Great horned owl, yes. What about. What about. What's the one that makes all the noise? The. It's not a screech owl. It's. It has like a very, like weird hoot where it goes.
Brandon
Are you thinking the barn owl?
Travis Kelce
There's no animal that makes that sound.
Brandon
Bard owl has like a who? The barn owl kind of like will switch scream.
Jake
This should be your podcast. Just Jason making bird sounds and you having to figure out what bird he's trying to be.
Jason Kelsey
Are there any other notam questions you want to go to? Is that it?
Travis Kelce
Let's get out of here.
Jason Kelsey
We've been talking enough. That wraps up another episode New Heights. Thank you to Caitlyn Clark for coming on. And thank you all of you guys for tuning in once again to this ridiculous podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow new heights of the One React or we're at you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining Wonderful plus in the Winter app or on Apple Podcasts.
Travis Kelce
Once again, New Heights of Wondry show brought to you by Nike. We already said it, but shout out to Caitlin Clark for jumping on. Shout out to Nike. Can't wait to see the CC1s. Follow the show on all social media at new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to our New Heights production team for always making us look better than we are and always making us look easy and fun for you guys. And for you guys, thank you for always tuning in. We'll see you guys next week. Peace.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
James Austin Johnson
Mom and dad, mom and mom, dad and dad. Whatever parents. Are you about to spend five hours in the car with your beloved kids this holiday season? Driving Old Granny's house? I'm setting the scene. I'm picturing screaming, fighting back to back hours of the K Pop Demon Hunter soundtrack on repeat. Well, when your ears start to bleed, I have the perfect thing to keep you from rolling out of that moving vehicle. Something for the whole family. He's filled with laughs. He's filled with rage. The OG Green Grump. Give it up for me. James Austin Johnson as the Grinch. And like any in insufferable influencer these days, I'm bringing my crew of lesser talented friends along for the ride with a list guests like Gronk, Mark Hamill and the Jonas Brothers, whoever they are. There's a little bit of something for everyone. Listen to Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
Caitlin Clark on New Nike Ad, Signature Shoe & Fantasy Punishments + Week 18 Preview
Aired: December 31, 2025 | Hosts: Jason & Travis Kelce | Guest: Caitlin Clark
In this lively episode, Jason and Travis Kelce welcome back basketball phenomenon Caitlin Clark for her second appearance. The conversation centers around Caitlin’s groundbreaking new Nike ad campaign and her upcoming signature shoe, the CC1s, with plenty of fun banter about sports, sneakers, and NFL fantasy punishments. The trio also covers Team USA basketball, NFL playoff predictions, and personal stories about gifts, athletic dreams, and family hijinks.
Travis’s favorite pairs are Marty McFly’s self-tying Nikes:
[16:13] Travis: "Seriously, it’s like my first purchase when I got a check... Marty McFly’s, Nike, size 13!"
Travis’s Embarassing Story:
[18:36] Travis: “Walked into high school with these—Will’s like, ‘Trav, let me see those things’... He looked at them... ‘real fake!’... Never wore them again.”
Jason jokes about his “mission” to dunk, seeking Caitlin’s advice.
Caitlin offers shooting advice, stressing good form from youth:
[07:44] Caitlin: “Make sure your form is always good, and then you kind of work your way back…”
[19:24] Caitlin reflects on battling injuries with Team USA, the challenge of returning after setbacks, and ambitions for the 2026 World Cup and 2028 Olympics.
Discussion on flag football as an Olympic sport in 2028, speculating on whether NFL players will get involved.
[25:20] Playoff picks: Jason likes the Rams (“they have the least questions”), Caitlin’s rooting for Patriots and possibly Sam Darnold/Rams, Travis is diplomatic.
Eagles and Chiefs playoff chances dissected. Caitlin teases Jason about Eagles viewership.
Playful, self-deprecating, and breezy. Full of sibling ribbing, sports and pop-culture references, and honest athlete perspectives. Guest Caitlin Clark matches the Kelce brothers’ rhythm with authenticity, quick wit, and relatable insights.
This episode is a masterclass in blending elite athlete perspectives with the joy of fandom and family. Whether you want an inside look at Caitlin Clark’s ascent to signature sneaker status, tactical football musings, or simply some top-shelf podcast banter, Ep. 173 delivers laughs, wisdom, and warmth in equal measure.