← New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Chiefs' First Win, Thiccest Sixes and Leonardo DiCaprio & Benicio del Toro's First Podcast | Ep 156
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He's here.
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He's here. Let's go. Keep it cool, keep it cool. They're here. Keep her cool. Keep it cool.
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I'm super excited. This is so badass.
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Play it cool, guys. Leo, let's go.
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What's up, Travis? What's up, Jason? How you guys doing, man?
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It's an honor being interviewed by you guys.
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Thank you.
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Our first podcast, fellas.
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This is the first one. Oh, my gosh.
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We don't know what's going on.
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Let's go, baby. Let's go.
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Ye.
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Welcome back to New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wondery show brought to you by Reese's Oreocups.
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God, I'm telling you, if you haven't.
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Tried these things, you need to try these things.
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The butter cup with the Oreo, you're not going to be disappointed.
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We are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. My big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Our Cincinnati Bearcats are coming to Kansas this week. They got the Jayhawks shout out to Matt Nagy. His son Tate Nagy is a freshman over there. I love the Nagy family, but the.
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Cats are coming back to the. Let's go.
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Let's stay on the Win Train, baby. Subscribe on YouTube laundry plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. Jason.
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Yeah.
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Why don't you tell the people what we got coming up? We got a fun one, man.
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We have a really fun one we got coming off of two wins for this past week for the Kelsey brothers. The Chiefs officially win against the New York Giants and the Big Apple. Getting that monkey off the back. We'll also get into the real reason behind the birds. Come back the rest of an insane week three and Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio del Toro are here. I don't know how the. We got these guys.
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Yeah.
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This is kind of crazy.
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Get these guys.
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I know they're gonna talk about this show. It's pretty crazy.
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Oh, my God. Dude, we gotta. I gotta make this feel a little more professional.
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I don't know. We're gonna get. There's anything we're gonna be able to do to make this better.
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Actors, human beings, the best at what they do. Dude, we gotta. We gotta.
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Gotta lock in. Before we lock in, let's get to some of that new news. New News coming in hot new news. New Heights is now on Prime Video. Prime Video customers in the United States can start streaming New Heights today through the Prime Video app. On their favorite devices. How about it, man? There's now another place you can watch New Heights if you so choose. And quick update for our Wondery plus subscribers. We will still release the show totally ad free on Wonder plus, but now we're making all of our previously exclusive content like old film clubs, heights hotlines, yada yada, available to everyone. So go check those out on whatever platform you prefer.
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And now we also got some new news in Kansas City this Friday.
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Kansas City.
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The Kelsey Car Jam is back, baby.
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That's this Friday.
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That is. It's this Friday, man. I'm gonna break out the old school. I'm gonna break out some, some new old schools. We got a 1990 Jeep Wrangler with the wood grain on the side.
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Gone, baby. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Let's go.
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I think was made in 1989, baby.
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It's a good year.
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92 percenters. We want to remind you guys the Kelsey Car Jam is this Friday. We'll have an amazing block party style event that showcases some of the city's top automobiles, including some of my personals. There will be food, there will be drinks, there will be games and a whole lot of fun for everyone. There's only a few tickets left, so get yours now. Proceeds benefit 8087 and running my foundation that helps out underserved youth in both the Kansas City area and back home in Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Just the Cleveland surrounding area. Two cities that I absolutely love. So please show up. It's going to be a blast. It always is. And thank you for everybody and the the Foundation 87 running for putting this on every single year blows my mind. And I can't wait to see it this Friday, uh, when KC comes up and shows out, baby.
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No doubt. It's a fun one every year. Highly recommend it. Is Operation Breakthrough going to be there again, right?
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All the time. All the time.
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It'll be great.
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All right now, last bit of new news. Jason got a new side quest. Jason Travis, are you working on your saxophone skills?
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It was the first time I played in a long time. It was.
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I thought you crushed it. And this is how I know you crushed it. Because I didn't hear yours.
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Yeah, no, that's why it was good.
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And as long as you don't either you were faking it or you were sounding good enough to where it didn't sound like a middle school orchestra. Where there was like that one attitude.
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Oh, I was doing it. I was definitely doing it. You just couldn't hear it because it Wasn't a loud enough instrument on its.
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Own, but, dude, what an epic song.
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Did. Are you kidding? Yeah. What? Yeah. When they were like, we're going to do the Monday night countdown theme, I was like, all right. And I picked up the sacks that morning, and I was like, all right, I got to see if I can play this thing. I haven't played this thing in forever. In the last time I tried, I just, like, couldn't even make a sound at, like, this music store. I was, like, so bad. Yeah. And I picked it up, and I'm, like, starting to play it a little bit, and I'm like, all right, you know what? I can. I can do this.
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What you play Little Hot Cross buns.
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Would you play? I did. I did do a little bit of Hot Cross Buns. A little Mary had a Little Lamb. That was.
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Dude, I remember this like it was yesterday.
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The easy ones. And then. And then I went right into it. And like, for those of you that don't know Barry back to middle school practice every day, Barry Sacks for marching band is when you're ever do. Whenever you're doing marching music and you're a bass instrument, you're pretty much just going simple while the brass and everybody else are kind of doing the melody. It was not the hardest piece of music, and I still found a way to it up, but it was. It was fun. It was.
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Nobody knew you it up, dude. I thought you crushed it. The bit that they did where they actually showed, like, the full song, bro. I was. I was a proud brother, and I couldn't hear you up, so you must have played it perfect.
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That's good. I mean, I just kind of fit in. I was getting a lot of help from a lot of the marching band members there, so. These guys are awesome. Oh, we're gonna play it. Here we go.
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Fired up. So badass. I loved every second of it.
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Appreciate it.
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I was sitting on the couch waiting to hear your take on the Eagles game, waiting to hear your take on the Sunday night game. And here you are with a marching fan, which I tell everybody you are a linebacker that had the most tackles in the game. They're running back. They had the most yards in the game. And you. You played in the play the Marshall man.
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Yeah.
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At halftime, which you didn't do, but.
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No. Never. Never did.
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You could have. You could have. And. And I asked the question, why not Jason?
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Because I was making halftime adjustments. All right?
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And, yeah, I thought they were allowed a halftime adjustments.
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Yeah.
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Cleveland Heights.
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That's right. I was Trying to catch my breath. But, yeah, no, it was fun. I put the hat on and it was like, I think it could have fit if I would have readjusted it. But I was like, no, this is perfect. It reminded me. Do you remember the movie Drumline 2?
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I remember. Drum line.
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The one guy right before class, right before they get into the fight, they're doing it, and he's got. The thing is he's too fat, and the thing's just in his teeth while he's doing it.
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Is that what it is?
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Yes.
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We can pull up that picture that.
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Was in my head. Like, I put it on. I was like, I feel like the kid. That guy in the movie. And I'm like, yeah. And then they're like, we. Can we adjust. I was like, no, no, this is. This is the way it needs to be. Don't read Justice. We can't make. This needs to be comedic in some way. So, yeah, it was good.
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This guy's just going to be in every marching band known to man.
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Definitely not. Not. Not gonna make this a thing.
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Every marching band in the NFL. Monday night, Jason's hitting it.
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I don't think there's many marching bands in the NFL. I think the Ravens are the one that have a full marching band. It's the largest marching band in all of the NFL. 150 people in it.
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I'm sorry, what?
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Yeah, it's a full marching band. It was pretty legit. And I like promoting the arts and promoting music and to have an instrument on my hand, like, I think a lot of the times you don't get to see that side.
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It made it look so cool.
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Dude, I did not make it look cool.
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I want to play saxophone.
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Yeah, you did. I want to wear a hat with a chin strap on my nose. Yeah, well, you just have a big head. I do. That's. That's a Kelsey. It's a Kelsey trait. It is.
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Thanks, Ed.
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It was awesome. It was a lot of fun. They every. They were more than accommodating and made it super easy for me, which I appreciate. You guys. Baltimore Ravens marching band. That was a lot of fun. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Sorry for being really shitty at saxophone now, but had a blast. Hold on.
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Do you want to see it? All the pictures your mom sent us.
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Mom had a bunch of pictures. Yeah, that's what I was.
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Oh, my gosh.
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When I was playing alto sax before I switched to Barry. This. It's a young Jason Kelce. That's when I got the big guy.
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Oh, dude, look at that. What a guy.
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Reese's cups with Oreo cookie crumbs inside, included in and around the re C cup. It's all happening. They finally did it. Jason, you asked and they listened.
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They did.
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They did. And may. Maybe it took them a little longer than we all would have liked, but it finally happened. They listened.
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Reese's with Oreos.
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Name a better idea. A better candy. I mean, I can't. I can't. It's. It's a. It's like a combination that. It's hard to believe hasn't happened up until now. Honestly.
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Yeah, there's no idea. Better than Reese's Oreo cups. Maybe the light bulb, the airplane. Who knows, man? The Tush Push.
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Tush push is only 92% effective. Rees. And ore is 100% effective.
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So what are you people waiting around for? Reese's Oreo cups are in stores right now. Wherever you get candy, you'll find it. Go get you some, brother.
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What you got for me?
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How about it, man? That's my kind of show right there. Taylor's oldest time right there. Black. And I'm curious to find name Black Rabbit. Black Rabbit has everything you love. Don't miss it. It's now streaming on Netflix. And there, I'm assuming since it's bingeable, that means the entire season is available.
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I'm hopping on a plane this week. I got time.
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All right, now, Jason, you've been retired for a full year. Let's talk pregame rituals. Do you miss them? Still have them.
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I kind of have one, I guess for Monday night Countdown. Like, I kind of. I go do the production meeting, then I kind of iron out what's happening in the rundown, then I go to the makeup lady, then I go to the hair, and then I go on set.
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Just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your New broadcasting routine. That's all.
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Well, first and foremost it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice, which is finally starting to show some of my grays again after dyeing it. I'm getting those natural colors back. Thank you. Thanks so much. But yeah, I have a, some, some grooming individuals that make sure it's looking nice and tidy.
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Sold. Available now in 12 teams including the Eagles and Chiefs. Get it while you can@gillette.com NFL Gillette the best a fan can get. All right, let's get some bold topics brought to you by gillette from week three. Let's start with the Chiefs game. Little Chiefs 22, Giants 9 on Sunday night.
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Back in the win column, baby.
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Back in the win column.
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Let's go.
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Does it feel good?
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It does feel good. That was not a great performance, but a win is a win. It's hard to win in the NFL, man. And I'll take a win any way.
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I can get it. This is the first ever road win against the Giants in franchise history.
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It's pretty crazy. Our, our franchise record against the Giants is pretty insane. What Is was like 4 and 13 or something like that.
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Wow. I guess you think about it like the Giants used to be good.
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I don't think I've ever beaten the Giants up until today. I lied. I beat him before.
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When you got into the league, the Giants were just fading away from that. Like Eli Manning, super bowl era Giants.
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And they were still head Eli Manning and they still beat us.
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Yeah, yeah. But they weren't super era Giants anymore at that point. Because my second year, 2012 was the second Super bowl they got right.
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Damn, you're like a dinosaur, man.
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That was my second year in the league. I remember Marty Morningwig when we went to the holiday party, we were kind of out of it already. And I remember asking Marty like, hey, who do you think is going to like win the super bowl this year? And this giants are like 8 and 8. Like nothing special. He's like, honestly, I think the Giants are going to. They're peaking at the right time. Their defense is stacked. And he called that. They went on a run and freaking won the whole damn Thing. So shout out to Spags. Yeah. There we go. All righty. Well, you guys got it done this week in the Meadowlands.
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Yes, we did.
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Little frustrating first half. It was a lot closer than it probably needed to be. Chief settled for three field goals in the red zone. Is that right? All of them.
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It was. Big red zone. I think we got past the 30. We got hit with a few penalties that put us in third and longs, and, yeah, kind of kicked ourselves once we crossed the 50. But Harrisonbucker right there to. To punch him through force and get points on the board. I will say it feels like we're rolling. It feels like we're. We're starting to get this thing going on offense. Our defense is playing stellar, both this game and last. Absolutely phenomenal performances. And stopping the run is. Is the biggest thing. And, yeah, our DBs are playing really good. We had a few turnovers, and when you win the turnover battle, you typically win the game helps out. And one of the craziest plays I've ever seen in my entire career was the Pat Mahomes pass that ended up being a backwards pass that he then went and ripped it out of.
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I don't. I don't think that any other quarterback makes this play. Dude, this was such.
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Was that. There was so much, like, chaos in my mind of. I turned around. Like, what? We got it back.
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Like, what do you think is going into Pat's head right there, right when the ball hits the ground? What's his. No, but he's doing. Doing in the right voice. Come here, boy. He's like, oh, get it, Pop. This was such an impressive play. He covered so much ground, and then just like, who has the foresight to, like, jump at the ball?
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Like, dude, it was insane, dude. I told him afterwards. I'm like, bro, I still don't know how in touch. It's so insane from that angle. He just comes out of nowhere. That boy got heart, man.
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It did feel like you guys are starting to get rolling on offense. Defense, like you said, has been playing pretty dang well, right? I mean, especially the last couple weeks. They've been playing well, and you got Pop going. You got the run game kind of active. And then, you know, it felt like Pat started, especially in the second half, taking those shots. We've. We've seen Thornton open down the field for a couple games now. He's been waiting for it to kind of happen, and all of a sudden, it started popping for him. Hollywood Brown made a couple big catches.
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Hollywood's been playing Fucking outstanding. He's been. He's been that safety net for Pat, and I think we're gonna keep getting this thing rolling, man. Hopefully we get Xavier back here soon and got Rasheed Rice back in the building. I know we don't get to see him for another three weeks, but he'll get his. His engine rolling and. And practices and back in the building and get the swagger back of having the whole unit together, man, gone. And even Juju Smith, user. I can't say enough about what Juju is to this team in terms of g. His. His. His accountability. He's always in the right spot, always there for. For Pat, especially in the rollouts. Has a good feel for. For the game and the offense and just feeling out zones and being in the right place at the right time, man. Just always accountable in the run game as well. So I think we're starting to catch some momentum as an offense and. And, you know, I think that comes with, like you said, getting Pop going, getting Kareem going, and these. These big guys up front being able to just get off the ball and move guys, and that'll help out the pass game a lot.
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And then it just felt like between Pop the receivers and when every time somebody came, a ball got a ball thrown to them or they got a chance to make a play, everyone was fighting and running and like, there were broken tackles. It felt back to like, some vintage, like Chiefs, just like, speed and energy and effort, and it was just fun to watch. It was a lot of fun to watch.
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This past week, second half felt a lot more like.
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I still felt like in the first half, even though the points didn't get there, it felt like guys were breaking tackles, felt like guys were making plays. You know what I mean? Whereas if it's. It's felt like for the last couple weeks where it's, you know, even when the completions are made, it's like almost like a. A tackle happens right away or, you know, Pat isn't able to find anybody, so he takes off run. It felt like now guys were going out making incredible catches, right? Like, that Thornton catch down the field was a fantastic play right after he. He did he. What happened? He got a penalty, right? He.
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No, no, no. He caught the one right before. And as he's going down, as he's going down to the ground.
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That's what it was. That's what it was. Thank you. Thank you. And then to come back and to make that second one, I'm like, this.
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Second one was even harder than The.
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I don't know how the hell he.
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Caught that just puts the point up.
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In the air like I got it through the defender, no doubt about it. Boom. That is such a great catch. Falling and like sticking your hands out, man. He is, dude, he's been.
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You love that dude, man.
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You've mentioned this kind of. Even on the side you've been waiting for this kid to kind of come on.
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He was a steal. I don't know how he got out of New England, man. But we're appreciative that they let him go because he's, he's just, he's a smart football player. Sure. Hands on top of that, can run with the best of them. A big body, long arms. Yep. You know, it's just easy. And he's a smart football player. Smart football players are going to thrive in this offense because coach Reed's going to put you in positions where you get those one on one matchups, man. If you know how to attack it, good things are going to happen. And I think him, Hollywood Juju, we've, we've been, we've been rolling and we've been getting this thing kind of geared in the right direction and I think Pat's just going to keep dialing it in as we go, baby.
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I can't imagine being a quarterback back there and trying to make decisions because there's the, the amount of things you're trying to process on a, on a play by play basis is intense. And, and the more you build chemistry with guys, I've got to think it makes those decisions a lot easier. And with Pat it feels like. Yeah, if with Pat it feels like obviously he has great chemistry with you. He's got great chemistry with Juju because he's played together a lot of the other guys. Like that is still kind of being developed in games.
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And like Noah Gray.
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That's right.
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Noah Gray had a bunch of. They, they didn't seem like big gains. He had, he had about 30, close to 30 yards of.
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Yeah.
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You know, yards called back just because of penalties and stuff.
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Right, right.
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Still, the, the smaller, the, the short gains of like 6 to 10 yards that, that you're seeing with just underneath routes and him getting vertical. I mean that kind of stuff gets, it gets you a fresh sets of downs. It gets you a third and short. You know what I mean? You're manageable situations. All that trust that you're talking about, that gets built up in the off season, in training camp and just being accountable in games, that just makes One5's job so much easier. He doesn't have to think about, you know, where you're going to be or, or anything like that. He can kind of just feel the game out from that point on. And, man, when, when he's out there just, you know, letting the game come to him and feeling the game out and just being the ball player he is, man, he's the best player in the world.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what, it's obvious that he's building chemistry with all the guys out there, but, I mean, the more he's building the chemistry with Tyquan Thornton, I just think, you know, it's going to open up so much underneath if that big play, big strike ability comes up. It's, it's, it makes it much, much harder to defend everything you guys are doing. And either way, that moment was a spark. And I think the spark probably had been litten for a while for the Chiefs, but it started clicking after that. We also got a shout out one 92 percenter who made it to the game. Erica Duchemin.
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Grandma's I was waiting for the touchdown.
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Did you. Were you gonna punch your grandma? Did you have a grand.
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See any.
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I didn't see any older women or anybody.
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Nobody was asking for it.
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Like a Grammy. Yeah, everybody was hiding them.
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Yeah.
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I really didn't have too many chances to, to, to get a touchdown this game, but, man, we were rolling as an offense and when you put up some big scores, man, who gives a Dude, the.
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The sign was in fact confiscated.
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A
What?
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You probably can't cuss or threaten grandmas. I think both of those are probably prohibited at Meadowlands or most NFL stadiums. We're going to get you to punch a grandma at some point this year.
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Dude, I not punching anybody's grandma unless you dress up like a grandma.
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I'm coming to a Chiefs game at some point this year dressed as a grandma, and if you don't punch me, I'm going to be furious.
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I can't wait for the NFL to find me for that one. Go ahead.
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Any. Any thoughts on the rest of the the game? You guys got the Ravens coming up, coming off of a big loss.
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Huge game. Yeah, they're going to be hungry, man. They're going to be hungry and pissed off, man. I'm sure they felt like they've handed these these last two games away. And even though the Lions played a hell of a Lions were, it was.
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Honestly, I came away more impressed with the Lions than anything because I think the. I think the Ravens Are legit, like unbelievable team. And I still think they are. But the Lions, especially off of that week, one thing that happened in Green Bay, it's like, oh, yeah, there's a lot of questions. Yeah, they played better against Chicago. Let's see how they do against Baltimore. They were them Dan Campbell, Lions across the board. Like they didn't do.
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They did some run game. Yeah, well, they were.
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They lost Frank Rag now this offseason retirement. Zeitler left, but they went back. They were doing some creative stuff. But there was also just like, dude, they were lining up and running right at him. They were running duo up and down the field.
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I don't know what play it was of some version of jab rub or.
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Just like there was some creative stuff off of it and they added but for the most part, like it was pretty obvious. They got a big edge and they ran right at them. And there was no, not many things that are more like deflating, demoralizing than a team that just lines up and you know what's coming and it still is coming at you. Like it was an impressive, impressive game for the Detroit Lions. And you're right, Baltimore, I mean, you know John Harbaugh, he's in there this week.
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Oh, come on. I think they got enough guys and enough vets on that team to where it doesn't. I don't even think it takes Harbaugh to come in and challenge those. Those guys are going to want to get that fixed themselves and I expect them to be.
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B
For sure.
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A
Yeah, but excited for the challenge, baby. Excited for the challenge. Excited to take.
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This is why we play. This is why we play the game, baby.
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Let's move on to some other football news out of week three, some other big stories. Eagles 33, Rams 26. Let's get to your Birds, brother. Jason, you and Kylie were at the link for this game. We were getting some updates on what was going on as it wasn't going well for the birds to start off.
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It's terrible. It's terrible start. Well actually to start the game, it went incredibly well. Yeah, they dialed up a. I don't know, we called it a replacement blitz or a simulated pressure where it's. It feels like a blitz but it's really only a four man rush. Zach Bond read Stafford's eyes just like very well.
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Hell of a player, man.
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And like typical quarterback. Like he felt the blitz come throw where the blitz came from. Should be a hole there. And Zach just made an incredible play and started out, capitalized on that, scored a Touchdown, little tush push action. And all of a sudden we're up 7 nothing. I think this game. Yeah, there we go. Eagles are back. And then it was proceeded to be about 2/4 of some of the most horrendous Eagles football I've seen in a long time. It was bad. It was bad. I mean, I've been. The way it's ended for me wasn't great either. But I think we had five, three and outskirts, like you want to talk about like struggling. We were struggling and you start hearing the booze or oh my gosh, second drive, you know, it was like one of those where like it was like a third and long situation and like I feel like it's hard. Like what do you call? You go, you, you go to a screen, you go to a draw to like try and just get something back because you know you're not picking it up. And then immediately it's like boo. And it's like, yeah, I mean I feel it. I get you, I get you. But. But it was.
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A
That's tough, man.
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B
You know, listen, first of all, the Rams are a great team. Their defensive line is stacked, their offense is stacked. You know, they, they do not have.
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Top quarterback and he's been doing it for a long time.
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Devonte, Adams, Puka, Nakua, like they are loaded. Kyron Williams was, I mean that was the one thing that was the most. Surprisingly our run defense has been pretty good. And Kyron was, he was giving it to us for a couple quarters there. And the Rams are playing a hell of a game. They had a hell of a plan coming in and it feels like a lot of the times when you're caught in that moment where you're going three and out, you just need one play to kind of happen to get some momentum going and it just wasn't. And you go into the game with all these openers and everything for especially first and second down and sometimes they're just not there and you're just waiting to get a play off and it just like, it was just like a non stop sack here. You know, they missed an assignment here. The safety's rotated, the rally. It was like a perfect worst. It was just like a never ending, just kind of misfortune as well as like poor performance.
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Ended the half with negative one passing yards, which is, I mean impressive, but not the impressive stat that you won. I didn't.
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I mean in times where that's happened before, one of the things I think the Eagles have done a great job, especially with Jalen is Just going on the ball. Let's, let's get into like our bread and butter. Let Jalen be point guard, right? It was fun to watch in the second half because you got to see, you know, what these guys are capable of when they are performing at their best. And everybody's been waiting for A.J. brown to have a game this year. It's been a frustrating start to the season for him, I'm sure, and for the entire team and for him to go out there and just like not even the first catch over the shoulder. He had a third down catch where he's two yards short, right? And he's throwing people off of him.
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One of the best players in the league.
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B
He is incredible.
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A
Well, everybody loved watching the second half except for Kylie.
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B
Well, Kylie is very superstitious as we all know.
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And you know what, everybody, she doesn't.
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Mess around with these superstitions.
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One of my favorite, like TV show episodes of all time is how much the fan superstition really fucking matters. And it was your episode on Always Always Sunny. And sure enough, she turns around one time and just says, you know what, go ahead, why don't you tell this story and how it, how it all unfolded.
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B
But honestly, we. She turned around. I think this was right before the drive to the, with the big throw to AJ And I, like we're all celebrating because we finally got something going offensively. I look back and Kylie's seated back, said, we got to change the mojo. We got to change Mo drew up, she started switching around and then we end up scoring that drive and it's like, yeah, Kai, I'm sorry, you're not allowed to turn around for the rest of the game. It wasn't even me saying that. Like Kylie was saying me, like, hey, J, sorry, I'm going to be turned this way watching the rest of this game.
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A
Can you give me some updates?
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B
And then it was working out so well that Hannah Einbinder joined in right here. She started looking the other way. It was a, a full team effort of anything they could do to try and send the juju their way. I mean, it was an awesome second half. It's not the way you want to win in the NFL, right? Like, full disclosure, the Rams should have won that game. Like they outplayed the Eagles. But sometimes things aren't going to go your way. You're going to what you, what you expect and prepare for. It doesn't happen and you struggle and to be able to, you know, get a win when you play like that and the game Gets dictated like that. To not quit when you're down 26 to 7 in the third and to keep fighting and clawing to the very end and to come out victorious, I just thought was an amazing outcome for what otherwise was an abysmal day for the Philadelphia Eagles. Right? So they get to move forward now, and I guarantee they're going to be hard at work fixing this, right? They're going to be hard at work. How do we get out starting better? And it's one of those where one of the problems when you win is that things kind of get masked. And one of the great things about when you lose is, like, everybody's motivated to make all these corrections because we just lost a football game. This is one of those where, like, it feels like we lost. So I feel like a lot of the coaches are motivated to correct some things. But at the same time, we didn't lose. We. We won with one of the most spectacular finishes to a game I've ever seen with Jordan Davis. I mean, blocking. Not only blocking it, picking it up and running it back for a touchdown.
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And by the way, like, at 300 and whatever fucking pounds he is, what a fucking beast.
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And I could not be happier for this kid. He is such a workhorse. He has matured so much.
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He started hitting the weave. He's like, dude, I know I'm getting caught. You love it when it happens. The good dudes, man.
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And not only were the Eagles fans going crazy because the Eagles just won, the spread was three and a half. So even if it's just a block, like, most of the fans in that stadium are losing because they're taking the. The spread as well. And all of a sudden, his man picks it up, runs it back for six. A lot of. A lot of Eagles fans were extremely.
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Happy on that s. Bad beats.
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That is a definition of a bad beat. That's a great play. That's illustrated how far he's come. You know what I mean? Like, he's always had the potential. And to see how he's gotten his second year. 30 or 33rd year guy.
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Oh, I apologize.
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I'm actually might be fourth. Is he a fourth year? He was the year before Jalen. I played a year with Jalen. This is Jalen's third year, so it's got to be his fourth season.
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A
Interesting.
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So, J.D. he came in like a young kid, and I just think that you see the maturity and the growth that he's had as a person and a player. He's gotten his weight under control. He's in better shape than he's ever been in, and it's paying dividends on the field. He is playing lights out in the middle of the defense right now, and that was just like an awesome moment to really solidify him on the national stage. So happy for Jordan Davis and everything he's put in to get to this point and happy the Birds were able to get a win. Man.
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How about it, fat guy? TDs, man. Most exciting football every time. It'll never not be the most exciting you'll ever see. Fat guys, fat guys running, period, man.
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B
It's the best.
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A
You get some big boys hauling ass, man.
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B
That is one of the great things. It's one of the great things about football is that on one side you have, like, Tyree Kill, who is just like the most agile human being I've ever seen. And then on the same field, you have this Jordan Davis, 340 pounds, and he's still, like, an incredible athlete in his own right. I mean, I'm even outside of that. You got offensive lineman that can't even get up to like, 15 miles an hour running out there. And, oh, yeah, it's just the. The disparity of athletes and body types in the game of football will never, like, get old. To me, it's just so fun to watch.
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A
It's a beautiful thing, baby. Final thoughts on the game?
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B
Final thoughts are, I think I'm happy that we won. Damn happy that we won. We got a lot to fix. But again, it's one of those things. I think it's encouraging when, you know, it just felt like one of those days where a lot of things are going wrong. We weren't playing well. You know, let's face it, the Rams have spent all off season trying to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. They lost the playoff game. So all off season, they've been dedicating resources and everything to defeating Philadelphia. And I thought they had a great plan coming in. Their players played hard. And for the Eagles to win despite a lot of bad play and, and things not going their way, I mean, that's kind of. It's about as good as you can ask. And now they get to make the corrections moving forward.
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A
Half of our fucking wins were like this last year.
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B
Seriously. There's something about teams and players, and I know the Jalen thing has been brought up. Like, everybody just says, like, all this dude knows how to do is win. And I really do think that the Eagles are uniquely positioned in their mindset of, like, they want to win and they're collectively motivated in how they prepare and perform. And everything is designed to just increase the optimal chances of that happening. And it's one of the reasons why they ended. Oftentimes end up getting it done.
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The Eagles game also gave us a new football term. The wrong game.
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Wrong game dickhead. Wrong game. What's that?
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Anybody who wears a jersey that's not Eagles or Rams is a wrong game dickhead. Like, like that's what it is.
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And then this guy right there, he's.
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A wrong game dickhead.
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C
Or the guy with the Imani tumor jersey right here.
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Why would you go to an Eagles.
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B
And Rams game and wear an opposing jersey like that?
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Like it makes no sense. Wear a white T shirt. Wear a black T shirt. If I see that, I'm going to call you out. You're going to be on my Instagram as wrong game decay. Can people follow that somewhere at Joey D. 3444 Instagram for all the wrong game.
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That's pretty good. I can get on board with that.
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B
I get on board with it. I mean that's like, you know, you go over to like London or some of these international games.
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A
That's a different, that's a different world. They don't get to see football as much.
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B
And it does feel weird when you're at a game and you see a jersey that's not of one of the two teams playing. It's like what do we, what are we doing here? You're just announcing that you don't care about this game. Like, I don't understand what the purpose of this is. Like, you're a Justin Jefferson fan. I get it. You're. You're. Yeah, this is great, but this isn't the time to be. I'd rather you just wear another sport at that point. Like just wear like a New Jersey Devil's jersey. What the are we doing?
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A
That's funny.
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B
Anyways, I can get on board with that for sure. We also have an insane witching hour in the span of 15 minutes. Talk about one of the most insane 15 minutes of NFL football watching Sunday from this past week. The Eagles obviously blocked a field goal, then scored a go ahead touchdown, then blocked a game winning field goal with a scooping score. That was an insane 15 minutes. But also in that same time frame, The Browns down 10 nothing, tied it at 10, then blocked a game winning field goal from the other team only for a few plays later to kick their game winning field goal. The jets were down 23 to 6 and Tampa is kicking a game ceiling Field goal to go up nine. The jets block the field goal score to go ahead 27, 26. Baker, then of course, like Baker does, leads another fourth quarter game winning drive. Seven game winning scores in final three minutes on Sunday ties a record for a single week.
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It's total better than it's ever been, baby.
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B
It is.
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A
I mean, it's why it's the best ever been. It's better than it's ever been, man.
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B
In total, four blocked field goals in the fourth quarter on Sunday is the most in a single day since at least 1991. If you guys been talking about this, like, why are the block kicks feel like they're way up?
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A
Why are people trying to get rid of kicking?
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B
What are you talking about? Punts?
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A
No, dude, everybody's like over here.
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B
Like, why is kicking apart?
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Because it's a electric play.
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B
Well, it is when you block it. It's not electric when they just are making 60 yarders. Like it's nothing.
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A
Still electric. No, but the, the, it's electric because you're sitting there waiting to see whether he's going to make this 60 yarder for the game or it's going to get blocked.
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B
Well, that's everybody's point is that it's been too easy to make these longer field goals now and people are tired of it not being like, oh, is he going to make it? But now, yeah, I mean, listen, if people are blocking four field goal kicks, yeah, I'm in. Let's fucking go to it. There's nothing more exciting than a block kick. Especially a block kick for a score like that is such a huge momentum shifter to end a game on that. I mean, that's better than a walk off home run. Think about the ending. Again, lacking a kick scooping and scoring. That is like a walk off of all walk offs right there. That is insane.
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A
It is, Yep. Gosh, that's epic.
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B
All right. Is any sport ever going to come close to NFL? No, it's not. Because no other. And here's why. No other sport plays this many games at one time. Like the NFL, 1 o' clock time slot in the 4 o' clock time slot. You know, you're going to get so much action in the span of eight hours. It's the greatest. That's what everybody looks forward to it every single week. It's all at the same time. And like I get, I'm, I'm sitting in the stadium and I'm trying to watch the game and I'm also on my app watching YouTube TV. Other games I'm checking the scores on ESPN. I'm like, dude, being a fan, you don't know this because you're still playing. Being a fan is incredible.
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A
Fan first. You're acting like I haven't been a fan of this my entire life.
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B
Yeah. All right. You're gonna find out. You're gonna be seeing it a lot more when you're at the game on one o' clock and all this shit's happening across the league and you're.
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A
I was at your one o' clock games.
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B
All right, whatever. You're not, but you don't appreciate it the same way until you're done. You're still so focused into the Chiefs, and I still love the Eagles, but now I'm looking at more of, like, everything happened across the league. One o' clock on Sunday is like, let's go, baby. God damn. That's a fun time to watch. All right, last thing for week three. This tweet was during Thursday Night Football, but we thought it was important to address it from. Got CTE from playing peekaboo. That's funny. Ineligible man. Downfield penalties are fat phobia to offensive linemen. Let the big men roam where they damn well please. I love the tweet. I think it's hilarious.
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A
Hilarious tweet.
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B
But in as much as I would love to go downfield, I do think it's pretty unfair if a blindman is downfield engaged with the linebacker who's supposed to be covering like a hook to curl. I think we can agree that we should not allow lineman.
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I would love to run a shallow cross with Creed Humphrey blocking the guy that I'm running away from.
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B
It seems a bit unfair from a play action standpoint on what linebackers. As if what linebackers are being asked to do isn't hard enough, we're gonna make this impossible for you to tell whether it's a run or pass.
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Epic.
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B
So, yeah, no, I'm very happy that it is a penalty. If anything, I think they could make it two yards. It used to be one yard and a healthy two. Now they've. They've. They go more by the letter of the law of, like, no, you get a yard and that's it. We're done with the RPOs. Going a little bit further. I do think there's some that are called that are borderline enough on screens and whatnot where it doesn't really impact another player that end up getting called, and I think that's kind of bogus.
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A
But also, so if you guys. If the offensive lineman engages within a yard.
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B
Yeah. You can block him as far as you want.
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A
Yeah.
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Yes.
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So I don't know. I think the. I think the rule is just fine.
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B
The way it is, but sometimes defensive players know this now, and they can disengage with you, and it. You can still get called. That's happened to me before, where you start blocking a deed tackle at the line of scrimmage. You got him two or three yards on the field, and he'll throw you. And now that I'm not engaged, I'm technically downfield, but the only reason I was engaged was because I was blocking a guy within that yardage. I think that shouldn't be a penalty, personally, but either way, the rule's good enough. I think offenses really pushed the limit on this stuff a couple years ago, and I think the league rightfully so to make it fair for defenses. Got it back in line with where the law, the rule and the intent of what it's trying to limit does. What would happen if everyone's eligible to catch a ball? I mean, I don't know. It would. If everyone was eligible to catch a ball, it would be. You would just. It would have to drastically change how defense is taught. And the creativity for offense is so great already. If everybody's able to catch a ball, it would open up a lot more creativity, and it just feels like it would be too much. I don't. I'm not a fan of it. Part of that's probably just because I know the game and the way it is right now. But, like, thinking of a guard sloughing off and, like, somebody having to be responsible to, like, guard him in case somebody throws him the ball, it just feels like that's a bit too much to me. So I think it's fine just the way it is. I'm also in favor of ineligible numbers. Like, I don't want to see offensive lineman starting to wear number one. Get. I fucking hate that the NFL changed the rule for defensive lineman. Like, I used to love, like, these iconic numbers that, like, defensive ends used to wear, linebackers used to wear. And like, now I see, like, a DN and he's wearing number one or number 11. I'm like, fuck off. Like, wear number fucking 98 or something. Something like that. Like, I'm not into this. If you're a big body, you're playing on the line of scrimmage, you should have a big number. I don't want to see this skinny number. I shouldn't be calling out number 11. He's a good player, but I don't.
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Even know it's 11 you're talking about.
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Well, every, every offensive tackle in the NFL does, Mr. Michael Parsons.
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A
Well, he's not a fat boy.
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If you're playing on the line, you're playing a fat boy position and you need to be playing with it. I just don't like to hold numbers. I really liked that you could tell just as like a fan. I really liked by like even like watching a jersey. Looking at a jersey.
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A
Quarterback. I want a quarterback to wear 99.
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B
See, I don't want that. I like looking at a jersey and knowing, without even knowing the guy, what position that guy played. There's. There was something about the. The numbers signifying what position you played. And I just liked. I just. I don't know, I just was a fan of it. I don't like that. Now the numbers mean nothing. On defense, anybody can wear whatever the fuck they want. And then on offense, you still have ineligible numbers. That's kind of fat shaming now. That's fatphobia. Just off its alignment. Are restricted to wearing these. 50 to 70. Is that what it is?
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A
50 to 80, 79.
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B
That's. Everybody should be restricted. No, receivers are restricted from 80 to what, 100. What was the old rule? Receivers could wear 80 to 100 or like 1 to 10 or something like that.
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A
80 to 89. And then 1 to 10 through 19.
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B
1 through 19. And then running backs were 20 through 40. 23, 39. 49.
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49.
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B
20 through 49. Linebackers were 40 through 59.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Although I think maybe they could wear 60 because Chuck Bender.
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A
60S. Yeah, 60s.
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B
Anyways, I used to like that. I don't know, man. I. I dug that history of it and that the numbers had some type of specific reason to why you were wearing it. You don't agree?
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A
I don't really. I haven't put too much thought into it. Not. Well, that does it for bold topics brought to you by Gillette. The best a man can get stamp.
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B
Of the week is brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. I already gave Isaiah Rogers the stamp of the week on the Hemi nomination on Monday night Countdown. So that is my stamp. That is my stamp of the week. But because I gave it on Monday night, I'll do somebody different for our show purposes. Twitter user Nancy S. Who sent intern branding customized Merton. I don't give a about that. That Colts running back Jonathan Taylor, I mean, he has been balling. I don't know what the I'm doing. I'LL give my stamp to Jordan Davis for blocking a field goal for the win. I don't know what. I can't think of a better one than that. So I'm going there.
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A
That's a good one. I'm going breakout games. I'm going Taekwond Thornton, man.
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B
There you go. We'll keep it in house.
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A
Keep it in house this week, guys. I mean, Taekwond Thor and the guy that is, that's kind of been knocking at the door, I think ever since he came to Kansas City last year and just been grinding day in, day out, getting acclimated, showing the coaches he can be trustworthy. But on top of that, just sharpening iron, just getting in there and, and perfecting his craft. You love it when a guy comes in and you can see the growth, man.
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Yep.
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And for him to get a game ball on Sunday night, make the, make the big time plays that he did and help propel us into our first win, man, that deserves a stamp from me.
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B
I feel like we should start stamping fans of the week. We need a fan stamp of the week. And I think you got to go with the Eagles guy calling out people wearing other jerseys. Give that guy stamp. That's a great call. We got to stop it with the nonsense. We'll do players because everybody wants to hear about players, which I guess that makes sense. But I'm more interested what, what, what is the person at the game. Show some love.
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Yeah. Show some love to.
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Some of that stuff is way more interesting sometimes.
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I'm with that.
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That felt like the one that was like, that was a good rant, a good grind my gear segment that I can get on board with. I'm. I'm all in on that stamp that stamp that. I don't know what it means, but you're stamped. Joey Made man. Made man in the new heights community. Alrighty. Once again, that was stamp of the week. Brought to you by Black Rabbit on Netflix. It's time for our Betty segment with our partners, DraftKings Sports. Look. All right, let's build some same day parlay, guys. Come on in here. Let's build it.
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A
We went three for three on Monday, baby.
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B
We missed one of our best last week. We did hit all three of them on the parlay on Monday night. What are we going with this week? We got Seahawks at Cardinals, a little Thursday night football.
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A
Okay. All right, Jake, Jake, I'm going to toss it to you over under, currently at 43 and a half. How are we feeling, Jake?
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B
All right, so It's a divisional matchup. Got to keep that in mind. You got two defensive minded head coaches. I'm going to take the under in this game, even though it's a relatively low under. But Thursday night, short week. I'm taking the under here at 43 and a half. I like the under two. The Cardinals have been playing really good defense. My man Nick Rallis, the defensive coordinator, not a lot of people know that name. I think he's going to be. I think he'll be a head coach one day. That guy is very talented, very smart. Seahawks offense has probably been putting up some points, but I think Cardinals keep this under below that total.
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Ooh, we're taking an under rare for us. All right. Okay.
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B
I hate taking it on. I know it feels dirty. I don't really like it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's.
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A
But it's Thursday too.
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B
Thursday. It's under.
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Let's do some anytime touchdowns. Those are always fun. All right, Marvin Harrison Jr.
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I bet.
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Touchdown.
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We are in way over our head.
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This is.
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I still can't wrap my head around it. You guys are gonna love this one.
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Or you're gonna hate it because we're morons, but.
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But you'll love that.
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Keep it cool. Keep it cool. They're here. Keep your cool. Keep it cool.
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What's up, Travis? What's up, Jason? How you guys doing, man?
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It's an honor being interviewed by you guys.
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Thank you.
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Our first podcast. Fellas.
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Listen. This is the Most unprofessional podcast there has ever been. We act as amateurs over here anyways. All right, here we go. Jason, you want to do the honors, my brother?
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Oh, baby. I guess today between them have four Golden Globe Awards, two Academy Awards. They have starred in 13 films that have been nominated for best picture. Combined, their films have grossed almost $14 billion at the box office. You know that from their iconic role. Lucario, Traffic, the usual suspects, 21 grams, guardians of the Galaxy, as well as Titanic, the Departed, Inception, the Revenant, Walpole, Wall Street, Hollywood. And now, as the stars of the new movie, One Battle after another, attitude. Presenters Please welcome Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio del Toro. What's up, fellas?
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What's up?
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Oh, my goodness.
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Thank you. That's an intro.
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That was an intro.
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Tough. That was tough stuff.
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That was like the wwf.
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No, that's what we, that's. That's what we go for here. All energy, baby.
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Hall of Famer intro, baby.
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How we doing, fellas? Doing good.
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Good, man.
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Great, thank you.
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Coming to the end of this press tour for this movie, we've been all over the world, haven't we? La, London, Mexico City. Now we're in New York.
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We appreciate your time and the movie is amazing. I can't wait to hear everybody's reviews when it comes out this Friday. Man. You two in the movie, your dynamic is so good. And Leo, you mentioned that, that it's political without like feeling like you're taking medicine. And I feel like your guys dynamic of making it fun and making it like the banter is, is great. The characters are so great. You feel like you, you enjoy all the characters. When you saw the script, did you see the comedy aspects in there or like the, like the hints of like, comedy that are in it?
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I think the comedy came from the writing and the situation that Paul set up. I mean, he based this on like revolutionaries from the late 1960s put in a modern day context. And then you have my character who's just trying to raise a daughter who can't get off the couch, who's too stoned to get off the couch. He can't remember the password from his past and his only home he can go to is his daughter's karate teacher. The comedy just came from that whole setup. And then I just continue to fail over and over. You think I'm going to use these espionage skills from the past and I just fall off the roofs. We're drinking and driving. I mean.
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Yeah, that is one of the greatest parts of the movie. Is like. But beneath, like, this very heavy setting of, like, revolutionary things happening and, like, bad actors in the government and all this. Like, really, it's a. It's a movie about a father and a daughter, and it's like, so relatable on that level. And then it's also relatable. I'm like, you're doing the best you can, but you keep up. Like, the. The password scene was just brutal, brilliant, and like, it's now timed. All these safeguards have been put in place to actually help protect us. And we can't even get it done because we can't remember the protocols.
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He's got to deal with horrible customer service.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's so good. But, yeah, there's something about. I mean, I. I'm a sucker for any movie about a father and a daughter, father and a son, any way you strike it. Like, there's just something very, like, visceral when you're. When you see a character trying to protect. Affect their child. And you guys just. You. You did a wonderful. Leo Benicio did a great job of keeping the cool. Had to keep Bob in line again.
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Always had a beer for Bob when you saw him.
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A man's best friend.
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Yeah, yeah, that obviously, I mean, that I. Paul was writing this for 15, 20 years. He wanted to do a movie like this that was, you know, that was politically charged. But at the heart of it, it's. It is a story about a father protecting his daughter. I think it was very personal to him, too. He wanted to do a story because he was thinking about his own daughter in this crazy world that we live in.
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Right? Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. Well, Leo, you were kind of mentioning before we even started this thing that you had always wanted to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, man. And he's one of the greats and a guy that, you know, for those that don't know, he. He writes, he directs, he. He works a lot of the cinematography. Like, there's a lot on that guy's plate going into to it. What was it that really made you want to, like, be a part of something or work with him on a project?
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I mean, he's one of those generational filmmakers that come. Come along, you know, once in a lifetime. I remember seeing Boogie Nights for the first time. I was like, damn, this. This is a cultural moment. I remember playing that. That CD in my car for. For months afterwards, just thinking about that movie, the visuals, just the. The fact that he, like, you know, he delved into the world of porn and made all these all this humanity out of it. They created human beings. And then he just kept improving himself after that. I mean, from that point on. Magnolia Punch, Drunk Love, There Will Be Blood was a masterpiece. You know, he's one of those. You just want to be a part of his filmography. You know what I mean? He's one of those great artists that you say, man, I just love to be a sliver in that man's filmography.
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Wouldn't you agree?
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Yeah, absolutely. I think that he's one of those few filmmakers out there also that is like, totally original, unpredictable, and also, you know, like you said, it's a. He brings that human condition condition, which means he cares about the process of the actor too.
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Yeah.
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Which makes every actor in this film is fantastic. Small parts, big parts, everyone is fantastic. And that's. That's him.
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We got to work with a lot of non actors too, which was cool. You know, we were in El Paso. We were in. In at the border in Tijuana. We were in Borrego Springs, Northern California. And he brings in a lot of people that have these real jobs that are real shop owners, corrections officers, police, military. Brings all these people and, and informs, you know, know the story. Like, what would you do in this circumstance and what would you say? So we got to work with a lot of people that I think informed what we were doing in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, it shined through in the movie. It really does a great job of humanizing some very heavy things throughout. And it's. I, it's. I always love that when you're, when you're seeing both sides, everybody's acting in, like, self interest, human interest, and really letting that shine through is just, just. It's spectacular when a director nails it as well as he did in this film. So. Well done, fellas.
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Thank you, man.
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Thank you.
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I kind of wanted to jump on the, the director bandwagon here. Benicio, you worked with Wes Anderson.
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Yes.
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In the Phoenician, and I love that one. It was, it was so. I just, I love the, the difference in, in how both of these guys kind of directing their own worlds and, and the, the, the. The symmetry and everything in West Anderson, what is the biggest difference from a director like Paul and a director like Wes in terms of on set and just for, like, the viewers that, yeah. Dream about being on a set with these guys. You guys.
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Yeah, I think that Wes is a little bit. He's got everything mapped out and Paul is mapping it out. He's got a playbook, too. Paul has A playbook. You know, he. He knows what he's going to do, but he allows the actors to go in and. And. And find. He's trying to catch the reality in the moment. Wes is finding the. He's trying to find the reality in a contained manner, but you can still bring yourself into it. It's just a little bit more rigid, you know, because it's. I think Wes is a little bit more like theater, and Paul is a little bit more like a documentary.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So if you do a play, you got to know your lines. You got to, like, the blocking's gotta be pretty much staged. And then I think Paul tries to catch that lightning right there on the spot. You know, he tries to catch it right there. I mean, we did many things that, you know, are not in the film. Yeah, but. But, you know, he's just pushing you to, like.
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Like, not you.
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You get a chance to improvise quite a bit. But, I mean, with Wes's films, you don't as much, but with Paul, you do get to improvise a little bit, and he might just catch something that was never scripted.
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Yeah, yeah. To add to what he was saying, I mean, there's a lot of sequences. I mean, this is his first kind of action movie, Paul Tomato. And like we said, he's a master filmmaker, so I was curious what he was going to do in this genre, but he had a lot of stuff. Action. Tbd, you know, road trip. Tbd. That's to be determin.
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To be the.
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This guy comes in straight from Phoenician scheme, and like, okay, this is what my character is doing. This is what he's not doing. He's got an underground railroad situation for immigrants. I know this person in the hospital, and if you kill this guy, I'm not helping him. And we're like, wow. So we went. All this stuff. That was what was so cool about working with Paul. We went on a. We just went on a road trip for a week.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, I had to. I had to set the pick. Yeah. He goes, yeah, I just went in there. I knew I had to set the pick. You know, I knew that all that.
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Driving stuff with the Modelo, that happened in two days. Paul's like, all right, let's get a new car. Let's get some sort of a building for him to have this system. We just. We just went on a little road trip for the movie because Paul's open to that. You know, I mean, he's. He's not a lot of writer Directors, I feel like, are very rigid in exactly what they want their film to be. But he let us, the actors, really shape the characters and just said, all right, let's go somewhere else. So, whole crew, we're moving out west. Go.
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That had to be so refreshing, man. Then that's so fudgeing. Cool. That's got. I mean, that's got to be not only a badge of honor because he trusts you guys and your professionalism, but that had to be, like, refreshing coming from other sets, I'm assuming, hey, he trusts me.
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Driving that car, going 35, 40 miles an hour with this guy, our protagonist, LD sitting on the edge of the window, and I'm driving. Every now and then, he will look.
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At me like this.
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D
Are you okay? You know, it was that eye contact right before. Yeah, But. But, you know, he trusts. He trusts his actors a lot. Yeah.
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A
I was going to ask who. Who signed on to this one first between you two?
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I did, man. I did. I got to. He's. Paul's interesting. He's. He starts, like, a conversation with you. You don't know if you're doing a movie or not doing a movie. He's like, let's go have dinner. I'm like, all right, cool. Let's go have dinner. We're out in Tarzana, some strange restaurant, just starts talking to you. Then he took us both to dinner, starts talking about ideas. Then he'll maybe whisper about something that you might be involved. And you're like, okay, give me a call when that happens. Then four months later, there's another dinner, right?
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And then I get a picture. This is the character you're gonna play. And he sends me a picture of a tiger. You know, it's a poster. It's a tiger dressed in a judo kimono. And that's sensei.
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C
Yeah.
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D
And I'm like, okay, I get it. Okay. I get it.
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B
I get it. You know? Oh, yeah.
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A
There's hints of that throughout the movie, too. I remember seeing that in. In the apartments.
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B
Benicio, are you an actual sensei? Do you do martial arts?
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D
No. I did a little bit when I was younger. I did a little bit of taekwondo and I did a little bit of judo.
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B
Okay.
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D
Which Judah was kind of, like, interesting.
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B
There's a couple moves.
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D
There's a couple moves. You know, the sweep that is, like. It can get you out of a lot of jams.
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B
But.
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D
But I'm not a sensei. I'm not a sensei.
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B
Leo, I gotta ask you about the Taser scene. That was a little Bit too good acting, dude.
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A
Like, you beat me to it, dud.
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B
Have you actually been tased before? You gotta have felt that to be able to do that good.
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C
I just felt the shock of what it must be like. But, no, that was not real.
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A
Watched a few YouTube videos, and a.
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C
Lot of people are like, did you do your own stunts? I'm like, hell, no, I didn't fall off that roof, man. I would not be sitting here.
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B
I was in tears.
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C
I would not be sitting.
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A
I was in tears, man.
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C
That was the cool thing about this character. Every time we got up to the point where, okay, when does Bob do something heroic? And we just were like, nah, let him up again.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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D
He just.
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C
He was on his couch getting stoned, and then he found out his daughter's gone. He's paranoid, man. He's not going to be able. He's not going to be mobile enough to pull anything all the way to the end of the movie. We still didn't have what the ending was going to be. You know, we're like, is this where Bob does a heroic moment? And then Paul right there is like, no, what you did is moved on to the Next Generation. She has to accept the trauma of your actions. You're going to do nothing heroic except be her dad and say. And never give up. Yeah, I never give up.
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D
I never give up. Yeah.
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A
Brilliant, man.
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B
Is it harder to act like you've been Tased or high on Quaaludes? What's harder there?
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C
Well, I gotta say, that quad sequence, I didn't know when I was shooting it, but we were there for three or four days. I thought it was like a couple shots, and Marty had 50 shots set up for me. Crawling around, up and down, stairs, falling, getting into the car. I was like, damn. I didn't know this. The taste thing was like 20 minutes.
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B
We were. All right, there you go.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Boom. Nailed it.
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A
You guys have both worked with. Obviously, obviously, we already talked about the two Anderson directors, but Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg. Is there anything that, like, all these guys have in common? In terms of all the greats you guys have worked with? Is there one common denominator?
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C
What would you say if that. One common.
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D
I would say that the ability to listen, to collaborate. You know, I think the ones that I. That I. That I consider, like, great. That they. They can. They will listen. They. They're willing to collaborate and, you know, some less than others. But I think that, you know, I think it would be like a coach, you know, that listens to what you're on the field playing it. You could sit on the, on the sidelines and, you know, and imagine what it would be like. But it's different when you walk in a line, you know, Know. So, so I think that the directors, for me are the ones that will allow you to, like, that will listen to what you say regarding the actual game, you know, And I, I would.
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C
Just add that, you know, some directors, you have to fit into a context or a perception of a world they create. You know what I mean? There's a lot of plots that are hard to unravel, that are very intricate, that doesn't allow a lot of movement. But even those directors, if they're, if they allow you as an actor to say, you know, Scorsese says this all the time. I don't care about plot. I don't care about plot. He goes, I want to go with the emotion of what the actor does because that, that's the story to me. Sometimes it could be less, sometimes it could be more. But those are the. When I watch a movie, those are the moments that I remember, you know?
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B
Right.
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C
I don't think about, oh, this happened in the plot that happened. I was like that moment with those actors, actors that felt like real life to me. It's funny, it's crazy. Joe Pesci and Goodfellas. That moment, he's, he's trying to capture those moments of real life that make you, I don't know, that make you feel something, that, that makes you feel like you're a part of the story in a way.
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D
I mean, every, every, every movie is different. Every story is different. Every co star is different. So imagine you guys playing with a different team and a different coach. Almost every other game, the actor has to be flexible, you know, because otherwise you'll break.
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A
On the flip side, is there a common denominator for the actor to have for, like, all these different. Direct. I mean, you guys have been with some of the best directors ever to do it, you know, Is there a common denominator for you guys that you like? You go in knowing that you. I don't know, you've. You've kind of, you have your style of acting, but is there any, like, bend in how you approach things depending on who that, who that director is?
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D
Yeah, I think for me, yes. For me, yes, yes.
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B
I.
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D
Hey, the bottom line is you have to be prepared.
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C
Yeah.
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D
You know, you can't expect a director to be there for you if you're not there for them, too. So you have to do Your preparation, your, you know, whatever it is, understand the story, where you are in the story. Because a lot of movies are shot, you know, out of order. So I think that, you know, there's. There's a lot of things that go into play, but I think, you know, you have to also be prepared, scared.
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C
It's like condition training. We got to know our lines. That's like the basic fundamentals go in there. Know your lines, and you know, you're going to adapt to different actors and. And their style of doing things. You know, some people want to go more by the script. Some people, for example, like Jonah Hill. I mean, this guy's the greatest improvisational actor I've ever worked with. The guy will take the. Take the scene off to left field and you got to somehow reel it back in and understand what the hell. We have an ending to this scene.
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A
You know what I mean?
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C
This character's got to get from point A, and Jonah Hill will just talk about whatever the hell he wants, you know, and you just got to react. You got to be on your toes. You know, there's. There's different actors in. In. In all these different films that have.
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B
Different approaches, but I'm sure there's a bunch of magic that happens when Jonah does that. And like, I think. I don't know, there's so many similarities when hearing you guys talk about directors and coaches and teams in. In football. And that's how us two idiots think about the world. But, like, you know, the best coaches find ways of creating structure and putting in plays, but at the same time allowing the personality and the uniqueness of their individual players manifest through that. Right? Like, that's when it becomes special, is when you have guys who are talented and like, how can we utilize these guys to their strengths? Travis Kelsey, Pat Mahomes and all that. So it just rings so true. True. And it also makes not the crap on any director specific style, but as a player, I just love when you get input and you get ownership over what is being created. Right. Like, that's what always makes me feel much better about it. And that sounds like exactly the way this movie went down with you guys. And that's got to be just like such a great feeling to know that this thing's coming out and the world's going to see it and that you were such. Not just a of part. Part of being an actor, but a part of actually making the. The creative piece in a more holistic way. Right?
- [73:11]
D
Part of the team. Part of a team.
- [73:13]
C
Let me ask you Guys, a question. Are some of these coaches way more structured and rigid and other ones allow you to improvise more? How does it work? Or is it Leo?
- [73:21]
B
There are some out there, man. There are some.
- [73:27]
A
I've had the fortune of only playing for one coach, Jason, he's gone through a handful of them. So he's got a. He's got a bunch of different understanding of it all, I guess.
- [73:36]
B
Ye.
- [73:36]
A
Go ahead, Jason.
- [73:37]
B
Well, just between college in the pros and I was fortunate I had one offensive line coach in the NFL and I've been. Listen, I'm a good, I'm a good teammate, I'm a good player. I've liked in some capacity. Every coach I've ever played for. There's things you like about every single one of them and there's things that you wish were different. But I just, I've been a part of the micromanaging coaches that want everything done their way militaristic and yeah, I just don't think that that leads to, to much creative. Like, it just doesn't ever become what it. The maximum potential that it could be. And the coaches that know how to like, get the most out of people and how to motivate them, let their personality show some Andy Reid, that's one of my favorite things he always says, let your personality show. He wants his guys to go out there and be themselves because you know he's going to get the best version of them. Instead of trying to make them fit this specific thing, let's find a way to incorporate this guy into the offense. So it's. It's just done and it feels better. Exactly.
- [74:41]
C
It sounds like acting.
- [74:43]
B
Welcome to Hollywood.
- [74:45]
D
Just like that.
- [74:46]
B
It's exactly like that.
- [74:47]
A
I will say this. Coach Reed. Coach Reed came in to Kansas City and he kind of had to break a culture. So I. My first, like, taste of Coach Reed was very much you. You're doing it this way, you're doing it this way. And, and, and once we kind of recreated that culture into where he could trust us, we could collaborate and we could make it. That's when we really got the, the train rolling and, and started to have a bunch of success as well as getting a guy like Pat Mahomes, everyone.
- [75:15]
B
Starts on that totem pole of like, you're gonna do what you're told to do right now.
- [75:19]
C
Yeah.
- [75:19]
B
And then as they get to know you, as they get to know your strengths, then you start getting like, you know, they start giving a little bit more like as stout start. My offensive line coach Starts to understand me and we start talking the same language. Language. I feel more empowered to be like, hey, what if we did this, this and this and stuff. That's a good idea. I like this. Let's start. Let's try it out. And then it's just. It starts developing into a relationship.
- [75:43]
A
At least you asked.
- [75:45]
D
Yeah, I don't. Yeah. Sometimes you. You can't ask, you know, you gotta earn your right to party.
- [75:52]
B
Yeah.
- [75:52]
D
There we go, baby. There we go, baby.
- [75:55]
B
Oh, God, you're right, baby. We go.
- [75:57]
A
You already know, baby. I was saying that sometimes the bullets are flying and you can't ask. You just got to do it.
- [76:03]
D
In the middle of a whole situation, you got. You got to do it.
- [76:06]
C
Yeah, yeah. Some. Some directors are, like, very structured too, and you got to find your way within their structure. Yeah, there's. Some of them are rigid like that. They have a playbook of exactly how they want the stories to go, and there's not a lot of room to play in that. But I think the funner ones. Funner movies to do are the ones where you get to come in with your own ideas and change stuff around.
- [76:29]
D
And, you know, you know, there's. There's something about having an experience. Right. So you work with an actor like Leo. For me, he's been around for a while, so I know we can. We can move. You know, I. Look will mean something, you know? You know, if he wants to go again, I get out of the way, so he goes again, you know, so there's that. And that helps a lot. So I'm so. Sometimes. But we had the experience of working with a lot of non actors in this film. And it was kind of funny because I think that helped Leo myself bring. Bringing the energy and getting these non actors to get behind us and believe what we're trying to make them believe. And it was really funny. They jumped right in. In line, you know, they did. Came in and it. And it. And it set the tempo for Leo myself, that we were both like, you know, part of it team.
- [77:19]
C
Yeah.
- [77:20]
A
You know, you guys ever gone off script and had a director looking at you like, come here, son.
- [77:24]
B
Come over here. Oh, yeah. Get over here.
- [77:26]
A
Don't ever do that with the football ever again. Oh, yeah.
- [77:28]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [77:29]
D
I had. I had a director once come up to me and. And say, don't ever take off an article of clothing while you're talking.
- [77:39]
C
Why is that?
- [77:40]
D
I guess for the sound.
- [77:42]
C
Oh, for the sound is the mics.
- [77:43]
D
The mics.
- [77:45]
B
Audio guys. Yeah.
- [77:46]
D
Well, I don't know, but he was.
- [77:48]
B
Like, wow, what the hell do you guys have? Like, a. A welcome to acting. Like, we ask athletes. This is kind of like when you first start. Get started. Like, I. I was playing with Michael Vick, and I grew up watching Michael Vick, and it was just like a holy moment for me that I'm actually playing football with this guy. When you guys first got going, like, were there any holy. I'm on set with X or I'm doing a movie here, or I'm a part of something? Like, what were your guys kind of holy moments for acting?
- [78:14]
C
Like, holy in a positive way or like a holy.
- [78:18]
B
Whatever stands out, you know? I had some negative ones, too.
- [78:23]
A
I probably had more negative ones than I had positive ones.
- [78:25]
C
I remember auditioning when I was very young. I was like a child actor.
- [78:29]
D
My.
- [78:30]
C
My stepbrother was an actor, and there were these acting agents that. That would line you up like cattle, and they just go. And I was a break dancer. I'd break dance for, like, money on the streets sometimes. I'd like the step haircut.
- [78:43]
A
Oh, let's go.
- [78:45]
B
Let's go.
- [78:46]
C
Yes, yes, no. And they look at me. No. And then a yes, yes, yes. And they all got agents. And I remember saying, my dad, this is horrible.
- [78:52]
D
This is.
- [78:53]
C
I went back and they did it again. Yes, yes, no, no. And I just remembered my dad saying, you know, someday you're gonna have your time, son. Just keep at it. Keep at it. And then, you know, I got to do. Oh, and then another thing that was funny. I first got my. These aren't holy shit. I'm just thinking about my whole.
- [79:08]
B
No, this is great. This is holy shit to me. This is holy shit for those ages. Those ages are now like, what the are we taking?
- [79:17]
C
And then they gave me my. Remember your first photos that you.
- [79:20]
D
Oh, yeah. Headshots. Yeah.
- [79:21]
C
And they said your name is too. I finally got an agent. They said, your name is too ethnic. I go, what do you mean? It's Leonardo DiCaprio. They go, no, too ethnic. They're never going to hire. Your new name is Lenny Williams. I said, what is. What is Lenny? I was 12:30. I said, what is Lenny Williams? We took your middle name and we made it your. Now you're Lenny. And my dad saw his photo, ripped it off, and he said, over my dead body.
- [79:48]
D
Really? Or Benny dell. Benny Dell. Mr. Dell? Yeah.
- [79:53]
B
Oh, my gosh.
- [79:55]
C
Lenny Williams.
- [79:56]
D
Benny Dell.
- [79:57]
C
Let's go.
- [79:58]
B
This podcast would not be the same with Lenny Williams and Benny Dell. I tell you that right now.
- [80:03]
A
That WWE intro would not sound the.
- [80:05]
D
Same, but that, that moment that you were talking about of, oh shit, I remember seeing it and it brings us back to one battle was the first time I saw, I met Sean Penn. You know, he was, he was that young actor that I was always going like, I want to have a, I want to do movies. Like he does the type of movies he does and I think was for me with Sean Penn.
- [80:26]
A
Yeah, that'd be cool working with him on, on this one, man.
- [80:29]
D
Yes, yes. I mean, I didn't get to, I've known him, I, I've been a part of his films when he directed, but you know, he was that. Oh, is it Sean Pen?
- [80:38]
B
I'm gonna go.
- [80:39]
C
My mind was De Niro, right? Yeah, mine was De Niro. That audition with De Niro that I had.
- [80:44]
A
That's so cool, man.
- [80:45]
B
Are other career milestones that you guys like are thinking about. Like, I mean, we asked this to like Brad Pitt and ironically enough he said his, the next thing he would want to in his like career is to work with Paul Thomas Anderson, which is just like hilarious that he would. Now we're talking to you guys making a Paul Thomas Anderson film. But what is like. Yeah, are there any bucket list career items that you guys want to knock off?
- [81:09]
C
There's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot. I mean, I'm, I'm getting one soon. I'm going to get to work with Scorsese again. And to me that man is a national treasure. He's the greatest director and I'm just feel so damn lucky to be able to do it, man.
- [81:23]
A
Yes.
- [81:23]
D
Hey, maybe you can call him for me and say, hey, bring Danny Dell, New York.
- [81:28]
B
Benny Dell. Benny Dell.
- [81:30]
C
I got this up and coming.
- [81:32]
B
Benny Dell.
- [81:33]
D
Benny Dell from the Bronx.
- [81:37]
B
That does sound like a Scorsese actor. Benny Dell.
- [81:41]
A
Ben.
- [81:42]
B
They don't.
- [81:43]
A
Well, let's get into this last segment, guys and get you out of here. We appreciate you guys. We got one more segment called we gotta ask. You don't have to answer. You can tell us to off, but we gotta ask. You don't have to answer. This is a sports podcast. So we gotta ask, what is your greatest athletic achievements?
- [82:00]
D
Huh?
- [82:02]
C
I mean, you can't, I guess, supposed to come.
- [82:05]
D
I, I, I played basketball in high school and I got, you know, I played varsity since the freshman, freshman.
- [82:11]
B
So I got, baby, we're the same. Yeah, yeah.
- [82:17]
D
I don't have your hands, man. I don't have your hands.
- [82:21]
B
I'll be in the NBA.
- [82:22]
A
Freshman on varsity Baby.
- [82:23]
C
Yeah. I. I never made any varsity anything. Tried to in basketball, but me and my friends are too short. I say it wasn't any big, big achievement. But we went back to play those varsity guys a few years later, they were destroying us. This is like, you know, a half court game. Three pointers in our face over and over again. And I just said to my buddy Alex, I said, let's go back with the fundamentals. Let's be Bob Koozie and Jerry West. We started to whistle the Globetrotters theme. I was like, pick and roll, baby. Pick and roll. We did that. And we're doing it so obnoxiously. We actually found a way to win this game.
- [83:02]
B
Let's go.
- [83:03]
A
We were a little guy.
- [83:06]
C
Yeah.
- [83:07]
B
Pick and roll.
- [83:10]
A
Let's get to the rim, baby.
- [83:11]
B
Is there a greatest sporting event you guys have ever seen in person? The favorite sporting event.
- [83:16]
C
Kobe, Shaq, Trailblazers, the Lob. I think that was to win the Western Conference finals.
- [83:22]
B
God, that is an unbelievable.
- [83:24]
C
And then I got to be there from Michael Jordan's last shot in Utah Jazz. That one. That was. That was.
- [83:31]
A
Those are two bangers, man.
- [83:34]
B
We had Shaq on. And he said that that was his final favorite dunk of all time. I mean, that is.
- [83:38]
C
The whole stadium just shot up into the air. I remember that. That was an incredible moment.
- [83:43]
B
Manicio, anything from you?
- [83:45]
D
You know, I'm thinking, yeah, well, I. I did go to. I think was 1980, and it was the sixes versus the Lakers, and it was Magic Johnson. Was the Finals. I think it was game four. It's the famous game that Dr. J does that shot. No way.
- [84:02]
B
The scoop.
- [84:02]
A
The scoop.
- [84:04]
D
I was live. I was sit.
- [84:08]
A
Yes, that's another. Oh, man, you guys are.
- [84:10]
C
See, comes from the right eye, scoops it under.
- [84:13]
D
Kareem is right there just watching it.
- [84:15]
B
Oh, that is hell, yes. So good.
- [84:17]
A
It feels like slow motion every time he does it too, man. He just floats in the air.
- [84:21]
D
I think it was May 11, 1980.
- [84:24]
C
Damn. You got the.
- [84:25]
D
Yeah, I got the. They woke because I got the. I got the picture of the. Of the shot.
- [84:29]
C
Yeah, that's pretty cool, man.
- [84:31]
A
That's epic, man. God damn. Those are. Those are some bangers. What's on your guys's Mount Rushmore of movies?
- [84:36]
B
Movies.
- [84:37]
A
It could be ones you've been in. It could be one.
- [84:39]
B
Travis put himself on his own list of Mount Rushmore football players.
- [84:43]
A
What do you mean?
- [84:43]
D
Oh, here comes the brothers.
- [84:45]
B
He's very modest. He's a very modest man. He's it's just I've always wanted to.
- [84:48]
A
Be on Mount Rushmore.
- [84:49]
C
Okay, Mount Rushmore of movies. I gotta say. I gotta say east of Eden with James Dean. I saw that when I was 14.
- [84:58]
B
I gotta.
- [84:59]
C
I gotta say Taxi Driver with De niro.
- [85:02]
B
Maybe Scorsese.
- [85:04]
C
2001 Space Odyssey.
- [85:07]
D
What? I don't know.
- [85:08]
C
I feel like we're doing our greatest four of all time.
- [85:10]
D
I'll just go. I'll just go with the. The movie that I saw when I was a kid that really impressed me was Papillon.
- [85:16]
C
Papillon.
- [85:17]
D
Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman.
- [85:19]
B
Yeah.
- [85:19]
D
You've seen that?
- [85:20]
A
I'm gonna have to put that on the list.
- [85:22]
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [85:24]
B
All right. On the list.
- [85:25]
D
Happy on. And then I think you mentioned on the Waterfront.
- [85:31]
C
On the Waterfront.
- [85:31]
D
Going on.
- [85:33]
C
Incredible. Marlon Brando.
- [85:35]
B
Marlon Brand. All we had to hear. There we are. Let's go, baby.
- [85:39]
A
We kind of heard Leo mention that he. He saw a movie and. And wanted to become an actor for both you guys. Was.
- [85:46]
B
Is.
- [85:46]
A
Was there ever a specific moment or a specific movie that you guys watched where you knew that that was like, man, I want to do that one day.
- [85:54]
C
I. I wanted to be an actor very, very young. I remember. I. I remember being 4, 5 years old old, and I'm like, found out you could get an agent and, like, do it professionally. And I just started begging my parents, take me to auditions. Take me auditions. It was very strange. I used to imitate my parents, crazy friends that would come over to the house and do imitations of them all day and play characters. And I was like, you could do this for a job. I mean, I don't need to go be an accountant or a travel agent. I can actually do this for a job. And I was kind of like the pusher. I wasn't. I was the stage child. You know, they have, like, stage parents that are like, you have to go do this. Go to this. I was like, mom, get me to audition. Drive now.
- [86:35]
B
You knew you.
- [86:36]
C
I knew. I was like, I gotta get out of this neighborhood.
- [86:38]
B
I gotta go.
- [86:40]
A
I love it.
- [86:41]
D
I guess for me, you know, I came into acting a little bit later. I came to acting when I was a freshman in college. And I think I remember seeing Raging Bull.
- [86:52]
C
Yeah.
- [86:52]
D
And I grew up in San Juan, Puerto Rico. And so, you know, it just. It just reminded me of people I knew. You know, the Italians, you know, the Latin. Latin thing. And I just. That movie really, like, it's just like De Niro Pecci and Cathy Moir. I mean. Oh, yeah, everybody in it. It was so incredible, that movie.
- [87:13]
B
Yeah.
- [87:14]
C
Mine was east of Eden. I think I saw that very young.
- [87:16]
D
Rocky was also kind of like. I remember seeing Rocky and, And. And doing the egg thing.
- [87:22]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [87:23]
D
And I was maybe 10, you know, or. Or nine, you know, just doing the egg thing and puking.
- [87:29]
B
Yeah. Not as good as Rob.
- [87:31]
D
Not as good.
- [87:31]
B
Not as good.
- [87:33]
D
That is good. Yeah.
- [87:34]
B
Leo, once and for all, we got to know who. Who's your team? Who are we rooting for? We got all these pictures. Multiple sport. Like, is there. Is there a specific one we're going for?
- [87:43]
C
You know, it's funny. Absolutely not. No.
- [87:46]
B
I got no.
- [87:47]
D
I got no team, no loyalty, no loya.
- [87:51]
C
I'm a Lakers fan. That's absolutely what I could say. But the hats always just were like, oh, that's a cool symbol. That's a dope hat. And I just started doing that my whole life. I don't know. Different college teams, different football teams, different bass. Not. Not a lot of different basketball teams.
- [88:07]
B
Do you have some favorite ones that are. Just. Because I'm the same way. Like the. Like Oakland Athletics. The hat, I just love the way it looks. It's just so awesome. Classic Seattle supersonics. Like that, like, jersey and color combo. I used to love that one. Like, I don't know. What's your favorite? You're going with. You think? I don't know.
- [88:23]
C
I like. I. I like the kc. I like the Raiders hat. I like the Raiders hat back in the day, but now I just wear la.
- [88:29]
B
There you go. Yeah. Can't go wrong.
- [88:32]
C
But you had. What do you had? You had a Bulls.
- [88:34]
D
I had a bu. Hat on the other day.
- [88:36]
B
Yeah.
- [88:36]
A
Like a classic. Like a old school Bulls.
- [88:38]
D
Old school Bulls. Yeah.
- [88:40]
B
That's what I'm talking about.
- [88:41]
A
I'm all about the old vintage flat brims with The. From the 90s. Any. Any 90s.
- [88:46]
B
Hockey.
- [88:47]
A
Hockey, basketball or baseball logo. I'm all in on it, man.
- [88:50]
D
Kansas City is a good one.
- [88:52]
C
Yeah. Kansas City.
- [88:53]
D
Yeah. That's a good one.
- [88:54]
A
They're not changing that thing any anytime soon.
- [88:57]
D
No, they. No, I. I have a vintage one from the 80s of Kansas City. Yeah. Football. Yeah.
- [89:03]
B
Let's go.
- [89:03]
D
It's cool.
- [89:04]
B
Come on. Come on out to Arrowhead. Yeah.
- [89:08]
D
I love to. Yes.
- [89:09]
A
Get this thing rocking for you, brother. Let's go. What's the best note a director has ever given you guys?
- [89:14]
D
I guess I had a direct. I think it was Oliver Stone once. I was doing a scene and he comes up to me, he Goes penetrate.
- [89:24]
B
Penetrate.
- [89:24]
D
Yeah, you're staying on the, on the three point line. Penetrate. Bring it in. Get in there. Yeah. And I, you know, I thought that was cool.
- [89:33]
B
Gotta get into the paint, baby.
- [89:35]
D
Yeah, get into the paint.
- [89:36]
A
Get dirty, baby.
- [89:37]
C
Yeah. I think when we're talking about. I guess I told a whole bunch of negative oh, wow moments, right? No, no, but my, My big oh, wow moment was being able to do a film with De Niro called this Boy's life. I was 16 years old. That was like my. I can't believe I'm on set from coming from television doing this great show called Growing Pains. But then, damn, you're on a set with Robert De Niro. You know, the seriousness, the focus, just the whole. The way I remember walking, the whole set went quiet. I'm like, what's everyone so nervous about? I mean, Jesus Christ, let's joke around here. I was like, like, you know, and then to watch this guy's focus, and I remember I had like a. A scene with him where I needed to like, step up. And I remember the director saying, watch him goes, pain is temporary. Film is forever. Pain is temporary, films forever. I was like, got it. That was like the note that I.
- [90:26]
B
Was that, hell yeah.
- [90:28]
C
Hit me the hardest.
- [90:28]
B
Leo, I gotta ask one of my favorite movies of all. You've been asked this a thousand times, but I gotta ask one of my favorite movies of all time.
- [90:35]
A
Island.
- [90:36]
C
Oh, cool.
- [90:37]
B
Do you abso. Do. Does he know. Does he know what's happening at the end?
- [90:43]
C
You know, I think Scorsese wanted that to be.
- [90:46]
B
To be open.
- [90:48]
C
Open ended. I got my answer. I got my answer. I'll tell you what my answer is. My answer is he couldn't. Couldn't deal with the pain of what had happened to him, and he decides to go in and sort of end. End the process. Pain, you know, he couldn't deal with it.
- [91:03]
B
He has that look back at the end of it where it's like, yeah, he knows what's happening.
- [91:07]
C
That was my answer. But, you know, these directors don't like to. Yeah, they don't keep it obscure.
- [91:14]
A
Speaking of open question, we got one last question for you guys. We get asked all the time. Jason was a former linebacker turned offensive center. I was a ex quarterback turned tight end. We get asked all the time what it would have been like if we would have switched positions or if we didn't switch positions. Positions. So we wanted to ask you guys, if you could act in one role that the other person had starred in, who would you want to be. You think?
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D
Damn.
- [91:41]
C
It's a good question.
- [91:42]
D
Yeah.
- [91:42]
C
I mean, Sakaria was. That would have been a cool thing.
- [91:46]
D
Okay.
- [91:47]
C
Traffic was amazing. But Sakaria, that, that, that guy was ridiculous.
- [91:54]
D
I like to watch.
- [91:55]
B
Watch that kill. You kill him in front of his family.
- [92:02]
D
I would say. I would say Wolf of Wall Street. Oh, yeah, There we go.
- [92:08]
B
Good answers. Good answers. Gosh, that's amazing, dudes.
- [92:18]
A
Thank you so much for this. This was a blast, man.
- [92:22]
D
Thank you for your time.
- [92:23]
A
Thank you guys for blessing us with this movie. This movie is so badass. Cannot wait to see how the world reacts to this thing.
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C
People gotta go see in the theaters, too. You gotta tell them to go see in the theaters, man.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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B
In theaters. Don't wait for this thing to come out and watch it from your living room. Get the true experience this Friday, September 26th. Check it right now. One battle after another. Leonardo DiCaprio Benicio del Toro. Thank you so much, guys. You guys, thank you. Was amazing. Thank you. Thank you to Leonardo DiCaprio Benicio del Toro. One Battle After Another is now in theaters this Friday, September.
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A
Go to the theaters and see it. I'm telling you, you are not going to be disappointed. Oh, Lenny Williams and. And Benny Dale, baby.
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B
Benny Dell and Lenny Williams. We watched it not in theaters, just to kind of get a little preview for it. So. But we'll. You go watch. Watching the theaters be a. Come on. Support the movies. Support your local theater.
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A
Hell yeah, man.
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B
It's a. It's the best, dude. Get some popcorn and Milk Duds. Get some cavities. Where are you gonna get cavities if you don't go to the movie theater? What are we doing? That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to our guests Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio del Toro, aka Lenny Williams and Benny Dell.
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A
That's so good.
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B
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- [93:47]
A
That's actually impressive that you can do that all while holding your breath. Once again, New Heights of Wonder show brought to you by Reese's Oreo cups and dag Naming. If you don't go and get you.
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B
Some of those peanut butter cups and.
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A
Oreo cookies all wrapped in one. This shit's amazing, man. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights show with 1s for fun. Clips throughout the week. Thank you guys for giving us your time and. And having some fun with us. Thanks to the New heights production team for always making us looking better than what we are. And thank you to the 92 percenters for keep tuning in. We'll see you guys next week after week four of the NFL, baby.
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B
Yeah, baby.
- [94:35]
A
Are you freaking out? You're freaking out?
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B
I don't know. I don't know what it is.
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A
Those guys were amazing. They're cool, man.
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B
I love cool.
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D
They thought you were cool.
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C
They said we were.
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B
They said.
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D
No, he said it.
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A
They said it. I think they're just pros. I think they're just pros. They do. They get good reviews. They get. Oh, if we say they're cool, they're gonna be like, oh, my God, I thought it was cool, but they're gonna like this. But they don't know that I already.
- [94:57]
C
Already love them.
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B
I didn't know that I was talking to some incredible actors that I have no business talking to with.
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A
No, no.
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B
I just feel like every time I'm interviewing, what, somebody like Leo or Brad or a good actor. Yeah. I just feel like Chris Farley in those, like, SNL scenes where they come play. So remember, and I want to bring up all of these, like, career achievements while we're talking to them. We're also trying to be. I mean, the movie that's coming out Friday is going to be spectacular. But I also want to ask about, like, all these other movies and things, and it's like, how do I do this without sounding just like the biggest fanboy of all time?
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A
And, dudes, sometimes you just gotta fanboy it up, man.