Chiefs Magic, Bird Bowl & Bill Murray on Iconic Career, Best SNL Host, Prank Calls & More | Ep 113

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce – Episode 113 Summary

Episode Title: Chiefs Magic, Bird Bowl & Bill Murray on Iconic Career, Best SNL Host, Prank Calls & More
Release Date: December 4, 2024
Host: Wondery
Guests: Bill Murray

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1. Episode Introduction

In this electrifying 113th episode of "New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce," brothers Jason and Travis Kelce dive deep into recent NFL highlights, share personal anecdotes, and welcome a legendary guest—Bill Murray. Broadcasting every Wednesday during the NFL season, this episode promises a blend of insightful sports analysis and entertaining conversations.

2. Chiefs Black Friday Nail-Biter Recap

The episode kicks off with a detailed recap of the Kansas City Chiefs' thrilling overtime victory against the Las Vegas Raiders. Travis discusses the controversial end-of-game procedures that led to a crucial fumble recovery, ultimately securing the win for the Chiefs.

Travis Kelsey [11:20]: "The Chiefs won 19 to 17. We know that. Yeah, there was an end-of-game procedure that led to the fumble recovery."

Jason breaks down the officiating mishaps, emphasizing the frustration of relying on referee calls in critical moments.

Jason Kelsey [12:13]: "False start is not an accept or decline penalty. If there's a false start, the play never existed. This is why there's controversy."

3. Eagles' Victory in the Bird Bowl

Transitioning to the Philadelphia Eagles, Jason and Travis celebrate the Eagles' hard-fought win over the Ravens in what they aptly term the "Bird Bowl." They commend the Eagles' defensive prowess and the stellar performance of Saquon Barkley, highlighting his potential MVP candidacy and a chance to break the all-time rushing record.

Jason Kelsey [31:05]: "Saquon Barkley has been so good in the fourth quarter this year. How many enormous game-leading runs has he had? It's insane how clutch he's been!"

Travis echoes these sentiments, praising Barkley's explosive plays that have often sealed games for the Eagles.

Travis Kelsey [34:43]: "Saquon Barkley is such a big dude. If you don't get a solid hit on him, he's liable to break one."

4. Interview with Bill Murray

The highlight of the episode is the extensive interview with Bill Murray, where the trio delves into his illustrious career, golfing antics, and experiences on Saturday Night Live (SNL).

a. Bill Murray’s Career Highlights

Bill reminisces about his favorite roles and the organic evolution of his characters, notably discussing his unexpected rise in "Caddyshack".

Bill Murray [47:07]: "I started as a caddy, and once you caddy for years, you're in it. It was like baptism without approval."

b. Golf Stories and Personal Anecdotes

The conversation turns to golf, where Bill shares humorous and heartfelt stories from his golfing experiences with Jason and Travis.

Bill Murray [53:22]: "I was... was purple for about a week, eight days or so. And burned the tone."

Jason and Travis engage with Bill’s tales, highlighting the camaraderie and light-hearted nature of their golf outings.

c. Improv and SNL Insights

Bill provides valuable insights into the world of improv and its influence on successful comedic performances, drawing parallels to the teamwork required in football.

Bill Murray [68:14]: "Bad improvisers are people that have an idea what they're going to do and they just sort of try to barrel through it. You need to build on what others say."

Jason ties this back to his own experiences in improv, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and adaptability.

Jason Kelsey [73:00]: "Improv feels like a team game. You're working with other people and a collaborative experience."

5. Fun Segments and Listener Engagement

Throughout the episode, Jason and Travis incorporate entertaining segments such as "No Dumb Questions" and "We Got to Ask," where Bill Murray engages with quirky listener queries and shares spontaneous anecdotes. Notably, they discuss iconic moments like Bill’s experiences filming "Space Jam" and memorable SNL sketches.

Bill Murray [84:09]: "Every time you have an actor, they didn't want to talk about themselves. But they appreciated when you brought up some of the quotes."

6. Closing Remarks and Sponsor Messages

As the episode wraps up, Jason and Travis extend their gratitude to Bill Murray for joining the show, reiterate their commitment to delivering engaging NFL insights, and promote their sponsors, including SeatGeek and The Farmer’s Dog. They also tease future episodes and encourage listeners to subscribe and follow them on social media for more content.

Jason Kelsey [97:10]: "That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to our incredible guest, Bill. You guys can talk about Travis did SNL."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Kelsey [12:13]: "False start is not an accept or decline penalty. If there's a false start, the play never existed. This is why there's controversy."

• Travis Kelsey [34:43]: "Saquon Barkley is such a big dude. If you don't get a solid hit on him, he's liable to break one."

• Bill Murray [68:14]: "Bad improvisers are people that have an idea what they're going to do and they just sort of try to barrel through it. You need to build on what others say."

• Bill Murray [77:54]: "Ray Charles completely buries every other entertainer I've ever met or worked with."

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Conclusion

Episode 113 of "New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce" masterfully blends high-stakes NFL analysis with the charismatic presence of Bill Murray. From dissecting game-winning plays to exploring the depths of improv comedy, Jason and Travis deliver an episode rich in content and entertainment. Whether you're an avid football fan or a fan of classic comedy, this episode offers something for everyone.

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Transcript

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Bill Murray]

God, what a setup that is. Were you always a golf guy? Yeah, yeah, no, I did some. I did my share of exotic dancing, but then I.

[Travis Kelsey]

Welcome back to New Heights ladies and gentlemen, a one year show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Google TV this time. How about it? Switching it up on you keeping on your toes. Hey, no more endless browsing. Google TV makes it easy to find what to watch.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thank God I suck at finding things to watch.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is how.

[Jason Kelsey]

How many hours do you waste annoying.

[Travis Kelsey]

Things just literally get up. I'll get up off the tv. I'll just get up off the couch. But this is too much. I am done with this. The scrolling and this nonsense that's coming across my tv. Why are you force feeding me shit? I don't even want to know that's.

[Jason Kelsey]

On T. There's just too much to choose from. Like there's. What's that? Isn't there like a consumer theory or something like that where like the. If you have Too many choices. It becomes harder to make a decision. So you actually want less choices because it's easier to make a choice. I think that's a thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

There's like a whole somebody went to college fucking host. I'm Travis Kelsey, is my big brother Jason Kelsey out of University of Cincinnati, Ohio. How about it? Go Bearcats. Even though we're officially not in decision.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fatigue, Greg, shut the hell up. We're trying to do this episode.

[Travis Kelsey]

Cincinnati even. No, I don't think we're going to be ball eligible. We've been sitting at the five win.

[Jason Kelsey]

Basketball's playing Villanova right now.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it, baby? Hopefully we're getting the dub there. Shout out to the cats. Subscribe on YouTube or onery plus, wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights show with 1s. Jason, why don't you tell the people we got an exciting one this time?

[Jason Kelsey]

No, I mean, this is. This is probably the most exciting episode we may have ever done. This was electric. We got an incredible episode for you guys. You're not going to want to miss this one. We're going to talk about the Chiefs Black Friday nail biter, the Eagles winning the Bird Bowl. But first, we're going to get into a little bit of that new. New. Well, actually, before we get into that, we have an incredible guest waiting for you guys. They probably going to put out a promo so I don't even have to act like it's a surprise at this point. Yeah, we have Bill Murray. Fucking Bill Murray is coming on new heights. And you're going to hear him talk about some incredible stories from his childhood time at SNL. Movie career bigger. And McCracken, you're not going to want to miss any of this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, the guy is just as smooth as fucking the other side of the pill.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, we're gonna make sure to put it at the end of the episode so that you guys have to watch this entire beginning portion. So first we're gonna get a little.

[Travis Kelsey]

Bit that new news.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. New news is brought to you by ESPN on Disney plus. Hey, is that some type of, like, sports network anyways? Not getting enough of me. Well, ESPN is now on Disney plus. That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Not getting enough of me can never get enough of Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not only do they have animated movies, classic Disney films, they now have sports. Truly something the whole family can enjoy.

[Bill Murray]

How about it?

[Jason Kelsey]

I can't tell you how much of my time is spent on Disney plus. And I think we've seen Every Disney movie at least five times now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

Also, starting December 4th, you can head to homage.com. that's homage. H O M A G E.com New Heights to order our new limited edition holiday merch. That's right. Order by December 9th. That's right. And you can get it by Christmas. That's for that section. This is also not really new news. Not really new news, but we have received a demand about what our next film club movie should be by a celebrity mystery fan. Travis and I have not heard this. Intern Brandon and Jets Jake, mystery fan who screens these voicemails. Just so I know know, how many voicemails do you listen to on average a week?

[Travis Kelsey]

We are up to 735 unlistened to voicemails.

[Jason Kelsey]

So how many listen to voice?

[Travis Kelsey]

So nobody listens to these? 30.

[Jason Kelsey]

Brandon.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm trying. They won't stop calling.

[Jason Kelsey]

They text now, too. For those of you that haven't heard, we have 730 unread voicemails, which is similar to probably what I have in.

[Travis Kelsey]

My voicemail, because who does voicemails anymore? Everybody texts.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't listen to voice.

[Travis Kelsey]

Do a voice memo. I don't want to go into my voicemail. Get some. But if you guys want to keep sending in your. Your heights hotline voicemails, I'm sure we'll eventually get to them.

[Jason Kelsey]

Intern Brandon will get to them before he dies, hopefully.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, let's get. Let's get to Brandon.

[Jason Kelsey]

Can we hear this mystery one?

[Travis Kelsey]

Please play this one.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hello?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm just calling because I know that voice. I. I don't have a need for relationship advice.

[Jason Kelsey]

I can give you a reason for.

[Travis Kelsey]

This, Kylie, but what I do need.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is to nominate a movie for the next movie review.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's the holiday season and.

[Jason Kelsey]

That if it's not Jumanji, I'm gonna be so mad. Love, actually, you could really sit down with your significant others and enjoy.

[Travis Kelsey]

Love, actually, because it's not like one of your significant others hasn't asked you to watch it multiple times and you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Said no every time. So this would be a great excuse.

[Travis Kelsey]

To get you to watch it. Okay. I hope you take this into consideration. You guys are great.

[Jason Kelsey]

Love you. Bye. Love you, too, Kai. All right. That was Kylie. That was Kylie. I know that voice.

[Travis Kelsey]

I didn't. Yeah, I haven't heard her voice over the phone, so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's a little bit different. Love, actually. Is that what Gerard Butler. Is that what that one is?

[Travis Kelsey]

No. We got Hugh Grant, Liam Neilson, Neeson Sorry, Liam Neeson.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is it, like, a Taken film?

[Bill Murray]

Not even close.

[Jason Kelsey]

No. I would have been in if it was like taken.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, Mr. Bean.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mr. Bean.

[Travis Kelsey]

No way. Rowan Atkinson. Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think we can both probably agree we're not doing Love, actually.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, probably not. I'll do, like, a really good Christmas movie, though.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, we'll open it to a fan vote, as always. Yeah, we'll do. There's no. There's no favoritism played here, even for my own wife. Please submit your favorite holiday films. And just for the record, before millions of moronic people submit Die Hard. Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. We will not be doing Die Hard. But, yeah, any other Christmas film which is in the spirit of Christmas or the holidays doesn't have to be Christmas. I mean, I like a crazy night. It's a great movie. We will review it and we look forward to it.

[Bill Murray]

I did drop you one note.

[Jason Kelsey]

You dropped me a note? Yeah. Oh. Kylie said she would come on. If we did Love, actually. Does that change anything?

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't think it really changes how we feel about it.

[Jason Kelsey]

She has her own podcast now. She can just do Love actually. Right? What do we. What does she need us to do? Love, actually.

[Travis Kelsey]

For once.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Kai, won't you do Love actually and then put it on? Not gonna lie.

[Jason Kelsey]

There you go. How about how much I come on locking a lie? And we can do a movie review of Love actually. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don't torture me.

[Jason Kelsey]

Torture Travis is not a part of this.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is a bystander, Kai. Don't come for me.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, you know Hugh Grant, it's not even going to hit the same. You guys are, like, best buds now.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm not gonna lie, though.

[Jason Kelsey]

You do tequila shots.

[Travis Kelsey]

I've watched, like, two or three movies with Hugh in it since, and I love all of them. He's just. Yeah, there's something about knowing the guy, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. It makes you like it more.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Either that or should we do Love, actually? Now you're talking me into it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't. I never said we wouldn't enjoy the movie. I just said I don't want to review it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, that's fair. Intern Brand is giving me a lot of side eye right now.

[Bill Murray]

Just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just do it. Just do what?

[Bill Murray]

Have Kylie on with the movie.

[Travis Kelsey]

I know what you're trying to do, Brandon.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, everybody knows what he's doing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Everyone knows.

[Jason Kelsey]

How about this? I'm gonna offer a barter system.

[Travis Kelsey]

We'll do two.

[Jason Kelsey]

We'll do a double movie review episode.

[Travis Kelsey]

So, Brandon gets what he wants, so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Brandon gets what he wants. We'll do Love, actually. We'll do a fan, because I don't want to. I think the fans should have some say in this voting. No.

[Travis Kelsey]

100% for the film club.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's the whole point of this fucking.

[Travis Kelsey]

Point of it. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're gonna do Love, actually. And another film that you guys will vote on and tell us which holiday film you guys would like us to review. Again, new news brought to you by ESPN on Disney plus.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason Kelsey, espn.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did you actually think that the show was good? You were watching Monday night. You were giving me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, I was dying.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love getting text mid. Yeah, I was laughing with me, though, right? Not at.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I mean, that's. Life is laughing at Jason Kelsey. But you laugh with everyone when they laugh at you, so.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Perfect.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, let's move on to maybe something that we can find some laughing with while we're doing it. And that's both topics. Wrap up week 13, which really, because of the Bill. Because of Bill, we're only going to get into the Chiefs and Eagles. We're not going to get into too much of the NFL landscape this week because we're going to get right to the stuff that we think is going to be highly entertaining. But we will give you a little Chiefs recap. Travis, you faced off against the Raiders and you guys snuck out the victory. It was tight. There was some end of game shenanigans which I think all of Twitter was debating back and forth on what happened. And I don't think anybody really fully knows exactly what happened, but I know exactly what happened.

[Travis Kelsey]

What do you mean?

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, well, The Chiefs won 19 to 17. We know that. Yeah, there was a end of game procedure. I guess we'll get right into that. It's not the start of this, but we'll just talk about it. End of game procedure. O'Connell receives the snap, doesn't know the snap is coming. Fumble. There's a flag on the play. One official is running into the frame clearly signaling false start, and the officials convene, decide to say it's illegal procedure or snap infraction. How do they say it?

[Travis Kelsey]

No, it's illegal. What do you call it? It's like illegal formation.

[Jason Kelsey]

People are in motion. Right.

[Travis Kelsey]

People are moving. It's not. It wasn't a false start. It's not like everyone got set and somebody jumped off sides. I agree. It was. The entire team wasn't set and correct because of that. The play then goes on and it does. The play doesn't stop right there on the snap like a false start would.

[Jason Kelsey]

So, yeah, for. For those of you that don't know, false start is not an accept or decline penalty. If there's a false start, the play never existed. It's blown dead right away. So this is why there's a controversy, because there is one official running on the field, one of the side judges, who is signaling false start.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's signaling the false start, which is this. That when they talked about it, they realized that it wasn't a false start.

[Jason Kelsey]

I agree. It's not a false start. The one way you could say it's a false start, though, the center never gets set.

[Travis Kelsey]

What, like the center is set. His hand is on the ball.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, but he's moving his head. All right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Now the center can't move his head, so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Because actually his head was even moving. Never mind. I changed. I changed my. I changed my mind. I retract. I retract. I thought he did, like the little deal with his head.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is what it is. And I'm not pointing blame on anybody. You can't put that kind of call into the ref's hands. It is what it is. And I'm. And I don't think you. You know what I mean? If you're the Raiders, you don't do it because we get all the calls. You just never want to put a fucking be in position where you're relying on the refs to make a call, whether it's right call or wrong call. A call that takes the ball away from you or ruins your chances of winning. And it just. It is what it is. You know, I've been in situations where I've put it in the ref's hands and I've come up, you know, empty handed like that as well.

[Jason Kelsey]

I agree. I think that that's not a false start based on what I just saw. And they got. And they got the call. Right? But for those of you that don't know, O'Connell talked about this. Why did the snap happen in the first place? There's a little bit of miscommunication. The Raiders are on what we call silent count. Brandon. Interim Brandon, could you bring up that clip again? Whenever you're ready, intern. Brandon, Jesus Christ, we got to get some new interns. Come on, buddy. So pause it right here. When the. When the guard goes to tap the center. Pause it so you see the guard look back and he taps the center. When you're on silent count, that tells the center the. It's on the guard to tell the center when the quarterback is ready for the ball. Typically, the guard gets an indicator from the quarterback. What happens here is oconnell is clapping his hands to try and get people lined up. When the quarterback claps his hands is another cue for most teams on silent count to the play, clock is going down or there's an unguarded receiver, hurry up and snap the ball so the guard thinks we're trying to go quickly. OConnell's just trying to get people lined up. All of a sudden there's a snap when he's not ready for it. And we have the ensuing fumble recovery and game clinching fumble recovery for the Kansas City Chiefs. Pretty critical error and it's unfortunate. I kind of joked on Twitter like, this is one thing I don't miss about playing center. These little procedure things come up so much and it's regardless of whose fault it is. It's so infuriating when something like this results in a seriously negative play and something like this actually costing them the game. Because let's face it, if they don't fumble the ball, they're in field goal reigns. They're going to get an opportunity to at least kick a field goal to win the game. So it's just, you know, it sucks for these guys. This is, you know, one of the things about playing, we've seen it with Chicago Bears, you know, teams that are good teams don't make these mistakes, especially in critical moments. This is something that the Chiefs have been unbelievable with. And there's a big reason why you guys have only lost one game is that you guys just are very, very smart in the most critical moments of it. You can't talk about that.

[Travis Kelsey]

A lot of that wasn't a good team, though. I hear you on that. Like you're saying the good teams find a way, you know, that's, that's something that, you know, you just have to learn to live with and learn from. And it is what it is. Even great teams, you know, slip up and have those mix apps and, you know, I think they played as great all game. You know, this dude, Brock Bowers is having a holy legendary season and he, and he really turned it up on us, especially in the second half. And late in that, late in those past, those last couple drives, man, very. Seems unstoppable, man. I'm just like, I'm sitting here just watching every single snap of his and, and he's finding ways to get open through and everybody's, their eyes are on him. Everybody's kind of like, oh, he's a rookie and you know, no eyes. Everybody knows how good this guy is. He's a first round draft pick. He's literally been one of the best, if not the best tight end in college football since he was a freshman. The guy is an absolute beast, both as a route runner with the ball in his hands and making plays for. In the run game. And it's, it's showing, it's showing up each and every single week, man. And it gets me excited to watch, you know, the tight, ends, the all the young tight ends in the league and, and you know, how much of a, of an impact they all make on their team, man. And he's definitely at the forefront. But this team, I mean, he was tough, man. They have, for whatever reason, their defense did have a good, they had a good understanding of what we were trying to do and how to stop us and how to slow us down or eliminate a lot of the big time plays that we had. And on top of that, keep us out of the end zone. That was the biggest thing for me was. And where I take a lot of pride is once we get in that red zone, man, I get a little hungrier. And right now I just, for whatever reason this year, I just can't find my way in the, in the end zone. I'm just not on the same page as Pat and, And it's. It can get frustrating. It can get fucking frustrating, that's for damn sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think the play you're talking about is that cover zero blitz where there.

[Travis Kelsey]

Was more than just clearly.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, all right. Clearly, Pat thought you were going to continue on that path. You thought he was going to kind of throw it up field for you.

[Travis Kelsey]

But I was just trying to that, that play specifically. Cover zero. I'm thinking if I don't have it right now and the ball is still in Pat's hand, I need to do something else to get open for him. And gotcha. I just, I went one way, he threw it the other.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, the Raiders were a great team, especially defensively. I think Patrick Graham, is that Pat, Is that the defensive coordinator for the Raiders? Patrick Graham? I played him against him a bunch in New York. Very smart guy. Like, he always. I feel like when he knows you, individual games are difficult because there's a lot of familiarity.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

And I just think that he is, he's just a very smart coordinator.

[Travis Kelsey]

Games that you know you're going to get. So the coaches start game planning those specific details and the scheme way in the off season before the schedule is even released. You know exactly who you're playing in your division. Let's get really good at playing those guys. Knowing that's what, six games that. Yeah, five games. Six games that we play right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Yep.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's, it's, it's. It's over a quarter of the actual season. So it's like, let's get really good at those, those games. So you go into the off season preparing for those teams specifically. And you know, that doesn't. That's not saying that we weren't preparing for them all off season. You know, they played us really well last year in the last year.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, we heard about it. We heard about it from Raiders fans all week in Tahoe.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Talking about ruining Christmas. They knew that they had your number.

[Travis Kelsey]

All the year next year ago, you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Know, you guys won this time.

[Travis Kelsey]

I hear you. You're right. Still going to hear from the Raiders. They're not going to. Fortunate enough. I've been fortunate enough to beat the Raiders my entire career and yeah, I've heard it's a good fan base for you.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is the feeling? Why are you guys able to close out these games? Like what is. Do you have an explanation for everybody who's asking these same questions on every sports show where we just regurgitate the fact that you guys find a way to win? Is there something more to it? I don't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

You can call it luck, you can call it fortune, you can call it guys just playing their ass off until the last second is off that clock. And we know a lot of weird shit happens in this league. I think both sides of the ball do a great job of that, is the coaches do a great job of making sure the players know how wacky things happen in this league, let alone in this game. You know, we've seen a lot of the weirdest shit happen. I think it's just been coincidence that we've seen a lot of it happen this year just to us.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Typically, they'll just. On the offensive side, we'll watch, I don't know, every college football game, every two minute from the NFL every single week. And we'll get caught up on what's possible, what could possibly happen at the end of a game with these types of scenarios. And when you understand that, that, that's, you know, when you understand the possibilities and you, you start to become more familiar with, you know, man, anything really can happen if we just keep playing hard until the, until the end of the game. No matter. You Know, no matter what's happening, what's happened, you. No matter, you know, how situation at hand, if there is a chance to win, if there is still a chance on that board. Yeah, you keep playing, man, and you just. You keep playing, you know, to respect the guy next to you for him, giving him. Giving everything he's got, too.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's get into the game a little bit more into some of the other stuff, you know, Listen, I know you hold yourself to a really high standard. I think you're being a little hard on yourself. We did get a number of good plays from the big Yeti, including another Travis lateral, which, I mean, who doesn't love a travel lateral again to P. Ron. You guys have, like, some type of chemistry here. Look at this bow.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, man. Right place, right time. I'm just. I'm happy it. It worked. I think coach Reed's under unquote saying either today or yesterday that, you know. Yeah. If you're going to do it, it better work. If I have a little bit more awareness, I don't even have to pitch it, though. I can just get vertical up to hash and get the first down myself. So as I'm always watching the film, how can I make a play better? How can I make, you know, more of an game? Yeah. And if I could get the first by myself without laddering, lateraling the ball. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna try and do that. This is kind of just an instinct that. That I had, and I'm lucky that, you know, we completed and we. We were able to get a fresh set of downs there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I think you might be starting a trend now with the laterals you've done for a number of years now. We had this.

[Travis Kelsey]

What do you mean, start this now? I'm the guy that fucking invented the lateral or made it comfortable.

[Jason Kelsey]

I didn't say you invented it. Don't give yourself too much credit.

[Travis Kelsey]

Worth said that something about me, this had.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

This was nothing like what I've done. This is just a guy in the backyard playing football.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fair enough.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like the way he has.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. This isn't the first one that. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

That just came. Yeah, exactly. This was just instinctual.

[Jason Kelsey]

This was very instinctual.

[Travis Kelsey]

They got me. They don't have you. You take it. Well, let me ask you this.

[Jason Kelsey]

As an expert of laterals. Should we see more laterals in the NFL?

[Travis Kelsey]

It's the most underused rule in the game of football. Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

God, I love that answer. I love that you're fucking.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think. I think I Heard Rich Eisen mention that early on in my career and I was like, damn, he ain't lying, man. That shit would be sweet if we were out here just fucking flipping it around every single play. And that's what football used to be.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you saying that you are taking your football playing advice from Rich Eisenhower?

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, I'd take a. I'd take any type of advice from Rich Eisen, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a good point. He's a pretty awesome dude and smart, well put together. Yes, that's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, It's a man right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

This was also officially scored as a Josh Allen 7 yard touchdown pass to Josh Allen, which. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Should they start like giving assists? I feel like they should say an assist. This should be at a version of an NFL assist. Right.

[Travis Kelsey]

The thing is, I just think it happens enough for them to even create a category for it.

[Jason Kelsey]

But you could do this now. Even like when people pitch the ball like in the backfield, like on a reverse or something like that, that's an assist by the guy who I feel like it needs to be tracked. This should not go unaccounted for in the stack category. I like assist. It feels like it's an assist.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. All right, well, hopefully smart by Josh, man. The old three man weave, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

Follow the box, dude. And I was watching the. We're going to get into the Eagles Ravens game. I was like, dude, they should definitely design a no joke before this game happened. I was like, they should definitely have a play where Lamar, I think after you later on it where he runs after like a hitch, like the slot area and just like catches a hook and ladder like, I don't know. I feel like it'd be an awesome.

[Travis Kelsey]

Play if you can get a defense to play soft enough coverage where it's a guarantee hitch and the play doesn't just ride.

[Jason Kelsey]

It would have to be the right situation of like 33rd in like 25 or like a two minute type situation.

[Travis Kelsey]

But then you're even. Yeah, I'm telling you, it's. I've dreamt of all of these situations, I promise you. And I, I feel like I have a decent grasp on, on when a team's playing soft enough to be able to catch the ball and evaluate and be able to throw a pitch or lateral out there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Clear. I mean clearly you do or you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Catch them in man to man and you just, you beat your defender and now all of a sudden you know that there's only one. There's one guy for every Other, like, route around you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know, and that's what happened in. In Buffalo, ironically, last year.

[Jason Kelsey]

The good news from that win, the Chiefs are officially in the playoffs. I know that you guys are really worried about this, but you have officially clinched a playoff seed in the afc. Travis will be playing extra football as well as his rest of his teammates and the Chiefs. So congratulations on making the 2024 NFL playoffs trip.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you, man. And as shitty as I've played, you know, it does feel good to be, you know, in my 10th year in a row, making the playoffs, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

10Th year in a row, dude. That is insane.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is absolutely insane. That is so time fries when you're having fun, baby. Let's make the most of it, man. Let's make the most of it. One goal has been reached. We gotta win the division. That's another goal that we gotta reach. And then secure home field advantage, which we have the keys to the car in that race as well. So we. We just got to finish strong, baby. Just finish strong. And. And then, you know, get. Get violently accurate with our intentions.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love that. All righty. Speaking of the division, the Chiefs will host the Los Angeles Chargers in Arrowhead this week against Jim Harbaugh and company. That's right. Do you like playing divisional opponents first at their place and then second at home, or do you care? I don't even know why I'm asking this question. Interbrand to put it there.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I don't think it matters where we play him. I'll play him in a fucking CBS parking lot, man. I love the divisional games. It's a. It's a complete. It's a whole new sense of, like, competitiveness.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

And it's a whole new, like, focus. The intricacies of the game, the fundamentals, the. What move did I use last time? What move. What play did we use last time? Time. That. What look did we give them last time? All those things start to play a little bit more, and it's even more of a chess match. You know, it's the closest thing to. To a playoff football game that. That I feel like you really get. And when there's a playoff potential team in your division that you're playing, like the Chargers or like the Browns that we have at the end of the year, you know, it. It makes it even more of a. Of a. I don't know, just like, excitement. It's exciting to get ready for these games, man. And, I mean, the Chargers got their new team. They're a way more mot and way more focused team than I thought they were in the past years. And sure enough, their quarterback's playing really fucking good right now. And that defense is has got some absolute beasts that we got to be ready for.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. Yeah. Harbaugh hasn't playing much better. I mean, it's largely the same team, but they got a lot of confidence right now and it's evident. And the quarterback is playing with that level. He is making some big time throws.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're playing with some fucking heart and I hadn't seen that in the Chargers in a long time.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, he has a new member of the ESPN family this season. I'm excited to shout them out as our next sponsor. What? As of today, ESPN is now on Disney plus.

[Travis Kelsey]

So if you have the bundle which includes Disney plus Hulu, ESPN plus, go open that Disney plus app and you'll see a new ESPN tile where you'll now have access to live events and shows from espn. That's awesome man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's pretty dope.

[Travis Kelsey]

Not been a huge esp espn guy since they started, even back in the espn o days, espn 360 days and the espn u days.

[Jason Kelsey]

So you're telling me the kids can watch all their Disney favorites and I can watch football games all in the same place?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think you're getting it, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right. They also have Hulu on Disney plus which means all United presenters can see Travis in Chiefs games and on Grotesque. That's right. Without leaving the this is so smart that they finally combined all this. And as somebody who utilizes all three of these services, I can't tell you how much more efficient.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice, Jason. You just nailed it. And coming up on December 9, they also are going to have the Simpsons Funday football game. They actually animated the live Monday Night Football Bengals and Cowboys game to look like the world of the Simpsons.

[Jason Kelsey]

This week they are animating it like the Simpsons. Make sure you check out the Simpsons Funday football game this Monday. That's right. On Disney plus.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm looking forward to this one. Again, that's ESPN on Disney plus.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Maybe. Fun tidbit. I once left my sunroof in roof open and it rained overnight so there's that. Or even checking the weather first before going golfing with Bill Murray. It was cold. I don't know if you could tell about the hat that I'm wearing, but I thought Georgia would be a lot warmer this time of year. It is not.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I don't think anywhere in America is very warm right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Pretty sure Florida. Florida is all right. I was just in California. It was fine. But yeah, nice.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Let's do it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey.

[Travis Kelsey]

Eagles 24, Ravens 19. Eagles come out on top in the Bird bowl, one of the Bird bowls in the league. Initial Thoughts Jason Huge win for the Birds.

[Jason Kelsey]

And by Birds, I mean the Eagles. That bird.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, the Eagles have been playing a lot better since the buy, but this was a win in my opinion, that I, you know, I think myself and a lot of people think the Ravens are among the best teams in the NFL from a talent perspective. They have so many, like, very good pieces. This was a huge test for the Eagles, the Eagles defense and them as a team and, you know, they largely answered the bell. I thought they put together a great game. The front is playing so good between Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis and the edges, a guy like J. Lex Hunt stepped up big time in Brandon Graham's absence. Linebackers, the Kobe Dean and Zach Bond are playing and flying around. They're playing very aggressive in smart football and I love watching it right now. The dbs, they've just like been able to shut teams down, quite Frankly.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Cooper DeJean, rookie, has come in and played lights out. Reed Blankenship, you know, still got our man Darius Slay, who's out this past week. But you know, Quinon Mitchell, the other rookie that we drafted in the first round, is playing great football. Offensively. They've had. They found an identity, right? They have Saquon Barkley, which he's been unbelievable. We're going to get to that in a second. But. But you know, I think with the pieces they have, I don't know how you defend them. I really don't. If you play, I talked about this a little bit. I'm not enough football. But if you play, man coverage, AJ Brown and Devontae Smith are going to annihilate you. If you're going to try and live in that world, if you play shell, Saquon Barkley is going to be a heavy dose. If you want to play these zones, they are the. This is really what worked very well against the Ravens. They ran the zone read plays, the RPOs, and the play actions were also synchronistic.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay, Synchronistic.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know how you defend the Philadelphia Eagles as an offense and the Ravens, I mean, they didn't allow that many points. But I think it's. It was an impressive performance for the Eagles.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's been a press impressive performance for, for just about all season long, man. Especially since they got Saquon Barkley back there, no doubt running the fucking rock. And even more so in the second half. He's been fucking amazing and it's fun to watch him kind of take over games there in the second half. And you tweeted about it saying, Jason tweeted on. On X. Saquon has been so good in the fourth quarter this year. How many enormous game leading or ceiling big runs has he had? It's insane how clutch he's been with an exclamation point. You don't always see Jason use punctuation like that. Only when he means it. And it's. How about that? It's true, man. It's true. It's. It feels like whenever they need a huge play there in the second half half, who better than Saquon Barkley to give that ball to, man? He's like 0 to 60 faster than any other human that I've ever seen, man. And he's, he's such a big dude. Quads enormous. So you're trying to tackle this dude or slow him down or get an arm on him or if you don't get a, a thick solid hit on him, then you know he's, he's liable to break one. And you saw it like two plays in a row. It was an outside zone to the left where the safety just fucking got his cleats and he was kicking himself. He was like, man, that was it. That was it. Let alone little did he know he's going to get another chance later on that drive to really break one, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

And that's where the MVP kind of chatter really fits in. I mean, obviously the yards. He's the leading back in the NFL right now with a chance to break the all time rushing record, which would be completely electric. Yeah, the thing that makes him so valuable and so unique is these second half. Big explosive runs that have either sealed games or put games out of reach. For instance, the run from last week on the tackle pool play, he had to run through a couple arm tackles, which might not seem like much, but maybe if it's another back, you get down at the five and you don't end up getting in the end zone there. And like, the defenses have been very staunch in the red zone. Saquon being able to run and finish these plays off in the most critical parts of the game, it's been such a huge determining factor in the Eagles late in games and why they've been able to win games.

[Travis Kelsey]

Whether it's been Washington, the most valuable factor to have.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think he's up there. I mean, again, it's obviously a quarterback driven stat, but if Saquon Barkley breaks a record, that's been in the end, I mean, when did Eric Dickerson set that record?

[Bill Murray]

84.

[Jason Kelsey]

84. The record's been since 1984. If he breaks that record and the Eagles somehow end up being the NFC champions, I don't know how you don't give it to Saquon Barkley. I really don't.

[Travis Kelsey]

If, if, even if he doesn't break the record, if he's the best player on one of the best teams in the league and he's proven it year in, year out in the biggest moments, what are we even talking about?

[Jason Kelsey]

It's a good point. All right, I think that makes sense.

[Travis Kelsey]

What are your final thoughts on this one, Big Dog?

[Jason Kelsey]

My final thoughts are the Eagles prove that they are legit super bowl contenders unequivocally, with this win. If they stay healthy. I don't know that there's a more talented team than them in the NFL.

[Travis Kelsey]

I might be able to argue that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, okay, can I say NFC at least? Will you at least agree? I mean, well, the Detroit Lions are pretty damn talented.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's the one thing, man. I, I really just. As a football fan, as a fucking offensive line fan, there is nothing more than I would like to see than the Detroit Lions face off against the Philadelphia Eagles. Like, I want that game to happen so bad.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think all of the NFL wants this to happen. Jason, who doesn't want to fucking see that? This is how the, this is how the NFL fucking got where it is today. It's handing that fucking thing off to guys like Eric Dickerson, you know, the guys like Jim Brown. Everybody wants to see that thing in someone's hand and everybody try and stop that. Man, Man, I'm with you.

[Jason Kelsey]

I will say this. I, I'm talking a lot about the Eagles, Mark Andrews had a touchdown in that game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, Mark is a dog dude. Right now him. And likely that is a scary dynamic to have in the tight end room to have to get ready for.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, that first touchdown that Andrew's caught where he just like caught it above his head and like held it there.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's a.

[Jason Kelsey]

It might be the most man touchdown I've ever seen. Like, it was like. It was like I'm big than all you other. It was like a. Like he went up for a rebound and just like it was.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm telling you, I thought he was.

[Jason Kelsey]

About to pop the ball.

[Travis Kelsey]

Mark is a. Yeah, like little Giants.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like a little Giants moment. I'm like. He is squeezing the. Out of. How big are his hands? That ball looks so small. Yeah, dude, it was.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, he's.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought that. I don't know why that stood out to me so much.

[Travis Kelsey]

Mark right now is playing like, you know, one of the best tight ends, if not the best tight end in the league right now. I know him. George and Brock Bowers, those dudes are absolutely playing fucking ball right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

And it's fun to watch.

[Jason Kelsey]

Next week the Eagles are going to face Bryce Young and the Panthers. Not just Bryce Young, a new and improved Bryce Young who is playing his ass off right now. They. I mean, quite literally. I mean, they nearly got the win against the Bucks. It's two weeks in a row that Bray Shawn has been playing really well. The Panthers might officially be good. I know the Eagles should for sure be worried about him because they are playing everybody.

[Travis Kelsey]

I can tell you. They've officially been good for at least the past two weeks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

If not before that, they. We were kind of seeing that we started to see that thing kind of build and mold together before their bye week, before we played them. And then sure enough, they play as. Just as good as anybody.

[Jason Kelsey]

Honestly, they've been playing better ever since I made the joke that they were the worst team in the NFL.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's what happens, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's like the kickers thing. Like I just gotta stop. I gotta stop talking.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean. Or just keep on people and watch people turn.

[Jason Kelsey]

Maybe that's what I should do. Shit on people. And then all of a sudden they play better. And I can take credit for that, even though it makes. I had no impact in it whatsoever. Sounds like a typical media person, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

The universe is weird like that, man. Start shitting on the Chiefs.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

No Dumb Questions. Before we get to Bill, it's time for. No. Some no dumb questions. Because there's no such thing as dumb questions. 92 percenters. Just you dumbasses asking them. I mean, us answering them. No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Google tv. No more endless browsing. Google TV makes it easy to find things you love to watch. Alrighty from Valerie, Jean, Louis and Twitter. There we go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nice.

[Travis Kelsey]

My note, I'm question is, if you could have been on any team from kids movies or TV show, which would it be and why?

[Jason Kelsey]

Interesting. Any kids movie or TV show. So she's looking for a kid centric team. Essentially.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's just like kids movie.

[Jason Kelsey]

But it's not like, remember the Titans? Is that. I guess they're teenagers in that. That's a high school movie. So that's still counts, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Any team from a kids movie or a TV show.

[Jason Kelsey]

But is it a kids TV show or is it just Valerie specific?

[Travis Kelsey]

If you want somebody like Jason to answer your question.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, don't forget we are dumbasses. Travis just told you, we are very stupid. But who are you going with? We can't pick sandlot because they just pick sandlot. So, Valerie, thanks for taking the fucking answer that we probably both would have picked from kids. All right, let's think. Kids movies that are sports teams. Space Jam. We talked about it with Bill. I mean, you get to be on the Monstars. Would you be on the Monstars, or would you be on Jordan's Toon Squad? I might go Monstars. That'd be a electric group to be a part of.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, except that you wouldn't be the one controlling your monster.

[Jason Kelsey]

I might be a monster if I'm on the monster.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're gonna be one of those little fuckers, the little. Little fetch hits. That's not.

[Jason Kelsey]

When I steal. Whose talent would I steal? I wouldn't. Okay, so I can't steal.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'll play that game with you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I would.

[Travis Kelsey]

If you were an alien, I would steal Shaquille O'Neal.

[Jason Kelsey]

I would steal Shaquille O'Neal's talent.

[Travis Kelsey]

You would.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. Who the fuck is stopping me with Shaquille O'Neal's talent?

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know. Greg Popovich? I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Tim Duncan.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Shaq didn't. Shaq was unstoppable. It wasn't. Yeah, that wasn't the issue.

[Jason Kelsey]

No.

[Travis Kelsey]

Stopping him was impossible.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right. I think I'm going. Space Jam. Who are you going?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm gonna go.

[Bill Murray]

Man.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was just as a kid. I just loved Major League. Man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's not a kid's movie.

[Travis Kelsey]

It isn't my book.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, fine. What is it? Does it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Is it Billy Mays Hayes, Rookie of the Year. There's so many good ones. Angels in the outfield. I'd love to feel what it's like to.

[Jason Kelsey]

I kind of feel like you guys are the Angels in the outfield.

[Travis Kelsey]

Angels in the outfield.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's some unknown like.

[Travis Kelsey]

Here you go with this tape. Voodoo. This dude's such a.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who you going with?

[Travis Kelsey]

Kicking and screaming. God damn. These are all golden. I'm going to say the. The Little Giants, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I figured that's where you're gonna go.

[Travis Kelsey]

Unstoppable out there. Spike would have no choice but to eat. Eat.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm taking you against Spike any day. All right. I like that There. You have a great question. Valerie Jean Louis. So, yeah, if you're interested for something to watch with the kids, you can check out my Google TV list. Lilo and Stitch. We got a brink. How electric is Brink?

[Travis Kelsey]

It's classic.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love all those.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love all Rollerblading. Period. When's the last time you saw a kid rollerblading? Man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude. I want to get back on.

[Travis Kelsey]

When's the last time you saw a kid with a raspberry on his knee? Because he his up outside.

[Jason Kelsey]

Kids.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get outside. Use the first aid kit your mom's and dads have.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

In the house.

[Jason Kelsey]

If you never scrape your knee, how are you gonna know what life is actually like? Born Neo's. Born well done. Oh, gosh.

[Travis Kelsey]

How are you gonna know how to put a butterfly b bandaid on? You know, these are essential skills that you're gonna eventually need in life. And you need to get outside and some up to go figure out.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. That's right. If you show me a kid that hasn't scraped their knee and I'll show you someone that has a gluten allergy. All right. There's a bunch of classics that you're gonna want to check it out. That was uncalled for and stupid. Shout out to cousin Riz. All right. There's a bunch of classics that you're gonna want to. You'll love watching with the family that does it for no dumb questions. Brought to you by our friends at Google tv. Be sure to check out my show and movie Confessions. Now that's right. I don't know why I said that.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was so perfect. We're so pumped to be partnering with our friends at Google tv. How about it? And I know Jason's been getting to play around with it. Jason, want to share share more with the 92 percenters?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, Trav. Google TV makes it so easy to find what you want to watch since it brings all of your favorite movie shows and live TV channels across your subscriptions all in one place.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. One of my favorite features, and one that I know united 2 percenters would love, is that you can also get recommendations based on what you already like, including live sports content tailored just for you, right on your for you tab. It lets you jump straight into the action and access live games from your favorite teams.

[Jason Kelsey]

And if you're like me and you always forget to write down the name of a new show someone recommends, Google TV also has you covered with their awesome watch list feature. It's so easy to add new things. You can even do it right from your phone.

[Travis Kelsey]

And if you're looking for some fresh things to add to your watch list, surprise me. Jason, what would I like to see on your list?

[Jason Kelsey]

My list is dominated by Bluey. I mean, it's the number one on the list at all times, I would say. You know, Little Giants is always on my list. Little Mighty Ducks action. Head to G CO tv New Heights right now to learn more. And while you're at it, make sure to check out my show and movie Confessions on Google tv. I might be biased, but I definitely have the best watch list out there. Alrighty, our guest today, you might know him from his run on snl. Legendary movies like Candyshack, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Space Jams, Lost in Translation. My personal favorite, kingpin. Basically anything with Wes Anderson. He's an Emmy winner, Academy Award nominee, and of course, a winner for the Mark Twain Prize for American humor.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes, sir.

[Jason Kelsey]

And he's also now my official golf competitor.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Please welcome Bill Murray.

[Bill Murray]

Thank you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

How many movies did we miss? What about Bob? Groundhog's Day? Yeah, I. I don't think. I mean, we'd be here all day.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got. It's. Are you guys on an hourly, or is this a flat rate?

[Jason Kelsey]

Honestly, we will take whatever you give us.

[Bill Murray]

There's a. There's a lot of them, but, you know, some, you know, people have their favorites. You. You did yours? We're good. I'm fine.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's start. Let's start off with your favorite, dude.

[Bill Murray]

Well, I always Say, I like this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I would have done over. Or.

[Bill Murray]

Well, you probably like a game that you played really well and you lost or something like that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Is that possible?

[Jason Kelsey]

Possible, yeah.

[Bill Murray]

So, not that they lost, but I made a movie called Broken Flowers with Jim Jarmer, so I thought was a great movie. And I made another movie called the man who Knew Too Little with a director named John Emile that had. It was. Had some really, really funny stuff and some really great actors.

[Jason Kelsey]

That is another one of our favorites.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, that one has some really funny stuff.

[Jason Kelsey]

When you're on the side of the building and they're shooting up at you and, oh, my gosh, the freaking Russian dancing scene with the dollar.

[Bill Murray]

Oh, my gosh, my knees have never been the same. And I really did it, too. Those are real Russian dancers. Like, God, what the hell is that guy doing? He's actually doing it. Of course, I never walked again. But, I mean, it was. It was. I really went hard for that one.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, that's awesome. We're gonna talk a little bit of golf. We're in Georgia, at Georgia. Cobb. What's the name of this Cobb?

[Bill Murray]

Cobb County.

[Jason Kelsey]

Cobb County. Cobb Town.

[Bill Murray]

Near Cobb Town, Georgia.

[Jason Kelsey]

At Oopi.

[Bill Murray]

Two Bees in Cob Town.

[Travis Kelsey]

You guys are over at a Hoopi.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Onion town. Onion country.

[Jason Kelsey]

That is. I. I don't know if that's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Isn't the onion.

[Jason Kelsey]

The official onion is definitely the logo.

[Bill Murray]

Do they grow onions here, Gil? Is that the deal? We're talking to Gil Hansen, Onions, one of. One of several people taking credit for designing the golf course.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Jim Wag.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is a beautiful golf course, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Have you been down here?

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell, yeah. Two. Two off seasons ago. Saw the. What is it? The zebras off in the distance?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yep, zebras. They got. They have zebras, they have wildebeest. What else do they have out there, Bill?

[Bill Murray]

And they have my caddy, Eric, who's off in the distance.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Offering zero help. Yeah, we had a great time out there today, Eric. We had a Gray. The other caddy.

[Bill Murray]

Gray's a jerk.

[Jason Kelsey]

You didn't like Gray?

[Bill Murray]

No, he's all right. He's from Alabama.

[Jason Kelsey]

Heavy access. Heavy access.

[Bill Murray]

He's on the comeback trail.

[Jason Kelsey]

Played safety at Auburn. He's pretty.

[Travis Kelsey]

What?

[Jason Kelsey]

He's an interesting guy.

[Bill Murray]

Played safety at Auburn and he's caddying for you?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do you have somebody that you really like playing golf with? Who are your favorite golf partners you played with through the years?

[Bill Murray]

I kind of like playing with women. They're more fun. They're sort of less threatening to me.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay. But they're.

[Bill Murray]

They just seem to be having a better time, most of them.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

I play golf with this good golfer, lives up north and south named Bridget Rooney. I had a good time playing with. Larry David is actually a funny guy to play golf. I mean, it's. It's not bad to play golf with a total curmudgeon, but he's.

[Jason Kelsey]

He.

[Bill Murray]

He really enjoys the game a lot, so he's not like all.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's cool.

[Bill Murray]

He didn't get all mental when he hits a bad shot.

[Jason Kelsey]

Were you always a golf guy? When did you get into the sport?

[Bill Murray]

God, what a setup that is. Were you always a golf, golf guy?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Murray]

No, I. I did some. I did my share of exotic dancing, but then I started as. I mean, I. I began as a caddy. I mean, I was a child before that, but I started as a caddy, and that's kind of what happened. I was a shag boy, and then I was a caddy. And you kind of, you know, once you caddy for years, you know, you kind of. You're in, you know, it's like baptism without, you know, approval. You're in.

[Travis Kelsey]

So that's sort of what, just like the summer job or.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, well, in my family, you had to, like, if you wanted to go to high school, if you wanted to go to the Catholic school, you had to pay for it yourself. So. Not that I necessarily wanted to pay for it, but I just. My eldest, my elder brothers had gone there, so that's what I was going to do. And they'd done the same thing. Ed and Brian had both paid their way through high school. Caddying and gambling, learning the intricacies of cards. And so I had to do that, too.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is it about golf that you like so much?

[Bill Murray]

Well, if I'm trying to stick up for it, you know, like, I often am, like, a lot of people go, like, golf, oh, you're chasing your little white ball around and your funny little clothes. But it's really, you know, maybe one of the only games that's a game of self report where you have to say what your score is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

So the problem today was I had no idea what my score was. I was. Neither did you. I'm looking at my caddy and he's.

[Jason Kelsey]

Going, we relied on Eric.

[Bill Murray]

All he was doing was. Yeah, well, to a fault. I don't. I don't think we got a.

[Jason Kelsey]

We'll never know if we got. We technically tied by Eric's account, according To Eric.

[Bill Murray]

We tied. But that's because someone sitting in one of these chairs gave Eric $700 at the T. $700 dollars in small, small bills. And I'm not talking small bills.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, throwing ones at them every. Every shot.

[Bill Murray]

But that's one thing about golf is. It's this game of self report where it's like your honesty is like a key thing, you know, and you don't know if you play with people that cheated golf, but, like, you can cheat on your income taxes, you can cheat on your spouse, your. Your lover, but you cheated golf. We're done.

[Jason Kelsey]

I got no second chances.

[Bill Murray]

I understand the impulse to cheat at ent taxes or like another guy, another woman, but you cheated golf. I don't ever want to see your face.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's the golden rule.

[Bill Murray]

So there's that. So there's like a code, you know, there's a code which a lot of, you know, every sport has a code, but that I think that has a fierce code. It's a game of. It's a body attention, you know, self awareness kind of game. You know, you have to. I don't know what football is like beyond the, like, freshman year of high school level, but, you know, you really have to be, you know, composed to play it correctly, to play at your best, you know?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Quiet inside and, you know, the most efficient use of your body and everything. So it's like that. It's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Man, I like it. I'll tell you what, it doesn't look like that One of the most uncomposed people in the world is Jason Kelsey in Tahoe. Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Kelsey]

We did that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Seeing Jason absolutely spiral in his first round at.

[Bill Murray]

Was he, like, diving into the lake or what?

[Travis Kelsey]

He was. He might as well. I might have came out the gates hot. I think he was. He was. I think he was plus four. I think he was, like, in the red for the first, like, three holes. Three or four holes.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is very nice of you to bring this up, Travis.

[Travis Kelsey]

Double, double, double, double, double, double, double brothers for.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, no, it's good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Keep your composure, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'll tell you what. You got uncomposed. I took you out of your game. The what? Is that the second or third day? That's right. I was playing so bad.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was either you or the lucky beaver. I can't figure out which one it was.

[Jason Kelsey]

The lucky beaver might have did it. Yeah. What. So how many. How many courses are you involved with, like, members with?

[Bill Murray]

How many lucky beavers do you guys know?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I know one. I Only know I know one officially titled beaver in.

[Bill Murray]

In Nevada in Reno.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I listened.

[Jason Kelsey]

Highly recommend it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I didn't see any in there, but I was. I was in there grabbing some drinks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Oh, is that the name of a bar?

[Jason Kelsey]

It's a bar.

[Bill Murray]

So what were you guys playing as a team in Tahoe? Were you against each other?

[Travis Kelsey]

No, Tahoe is individual scores.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's an individual.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, it's a point based though you can. The max is double bogey and that's minus three points, I believe. And then from there it kind of just playing together.

[Jason Kelsey]

We were playing. We were paired together, but we weren't.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, we were against each other.

[Bill Murray]

You play with a different group every day, different twosome or something.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's typically a round of three guys just so they can keep the pace up.

[Jason Kelsey]

We played with Andrew Whitworth, a tackle that played in the league for a long time in Cincinnati, and I hate that guy. You don't like Andrew? Well, he's a very hateful tackle.

[Travis Kelsey]

You've played in a bunch of pro.

[Bill Murray]

He's not holding. I don't know who the hell he is.

[Jason Kelsey]

You got an invite.

[Travis Kelsey]

He ain't lying, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

So true.

[Travis Kelsey]

Lying. That's some good, man. The camera of shame. Shame that man. Show his face. Show us his face.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, I'd like to see someone if. So. If you take off your helmet, you have to come off the field or that's a flag.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's actually a penalty.

[Bill Murray]

It's a flag.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes, it's a flag.

[Jason Kelsey]

If your helmet comes off, you have.

[Bill Murray]

To leave the field for a play or something.

[Jason Kelsey]

I believe you have to leave the field to have it like put back on or something like that. But if you take it off, that's a penalty. So.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Bill, you've been invited to a bunch of pro ams. Tahoe hasn't gave you a shout yet. Have you ever even been out to Tahoe?

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, back when it was just a pond.

[Travis Kelsey]

They still got that, that's for sure.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah. No, I read the Mark Twain. I read it. Yeah, I've had some good. I've had a nice time at Tahoe. I like to swim. The golf always.

[Jason Kelsey]

They.

[Bill Murray]

Those guys always seemed a little too serious for me.

[Travis Kelsey]

I hear you that.

[Bill Murray]

That crowd seemed a little too serious.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is pretty serious.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah. I played with those guys once and that was enough.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's get. Let's touch.

[Bill Murray]

And I did play a. With my kids. I played a. We got trapped there playing a couple of slot machines. Hey, I got stuck on one that was the Bonanza slot machine. And if you got two out of.

[Jason Kelsey]

Three, write this down.

[Bill Murray]

If you put in $3 and got two back, it played the Bonanza song, you know, and it's like, hey, you feel like you're winning while you're losing a dollar at a time for nine hours? I don't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think that's the most fun I have in Tao is when everybody goes from being done with playing golf and we just jump over the casino.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

What's your dumb game? What's your dumb.

[Jason Kelsey]

Travis plays roulette.

[Travis Kelsey]

Roulette I love.

[Bill Murray]

That's God damn.

[Jason Kelsey]

So stupid.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's so fun. Jason says it's stupid. The only time he's ever played with me won buku bucks.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's because you were having fun.

[Bill Murray]

Well, I know how that. It's like if you're, if you're flush and you got a lot of money on you, go like, what's your number? You know, and you got to tell everybody what's your number? And I remember having like a lot of per diem going there for some goofy thing and what's your number? So I had like seven people's number. We were winning like all the time. Meanwhile, I'm the only guy putting up the money. So I'm losing six times and one of us is losing and it's not me. It's never me. I'm like so happy for you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Anyway, I was pretty much broke and about 120 minutes and. But other people are walking out with like big bags of pockets.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love it.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Let's take. Let's take a trip down memory lane, baby.

[Bill Murray]

Oh, I thought you're gonna say let's take some phone calls.

[Jason Kelsey]

We have a heights hotline. We could.

[Bill Murray]

Hey, we got something here from Houston.

[Travis Kelsey]

You grew up in Chicago. Chi town, baby. With eight Siblings.

[Jason Kelsey]

What number are you?

[Bill Murray]

I was five of nine.

[Jason Kelsey]

Five of nine?

[Bill Murray]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Bill Murray]

Where there were nine of us.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

And boy, girl. How many brothers? How many sisters?

[Bill Murray]

I don't know. I knew their names. They were.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were.

[Bill Murray]

There were. There were six boys and there were three girls.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, nine.

[Bill Murray]

You guys could feel that?

[Travis Kelsey]

You guys could feel the whole whole diamond?

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Travis Kelsey]

Did you guys. You guys ever just go family versus family out on the diamond?

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, we had some cousins that. We had some cousins. The Collins. They had nine, too.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wow.

[Bill Murray]

At least I think they had nine. They were. They were not. They're not as tall as we were, so they could have had more or less. We couldn't tell. We like to play them in basketball.

[Travis Kelsey]

There we go.

[Bill Murray]

That's. We. That was our game. We played a lot of sports. We played everything. Basically, I would spend the winter, long winters there, hitting rocks with a baseball bat over the fence of the backyard.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Until I would hear someone go, ah, my name. My neighbor getting into his car, taking one right in the forehead.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, who'd you get your sense of humor from? Your mother, father, siblings?

[Bill Murray]

Well, that's. Well, my siblings are humorous. I got some funny brothers and sisters. They're all funny.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

We used to think our dad. Our dad was a really, really tough lady. So if you could make him laugh, that was like you looked at your. Your brother sis going, see that? Yeah, see that? But oddly, when. When the. The bunch of us that went sort of continued being funny for a living, sort of, it turned out we were all doing our mother that we actually. Like when we went into, like, a silly goofy mode, we were actually doing our mother.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, wow.

[Bill Murray]

So she was more of a character than my dad was. My dad was, you know, he was hard to read because he was not an easy laugh.

[Travis Kelsey]

Would you call yourself the troublemaker of the family or what?

[Bill Murray]

No, I was. I was the good one.

[Jason Kelsey]

Good one.

[Bill Murray]

Good one. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You were the good one.

[Bill Murray]

Oh, yeah. Heck, yeah. No, I was the worst.

[Travis Kelsey]

I was the worst set we have. You bear trap me.

[Bill Murray]

You asked me a question.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. What did your old man. What did your father.

[Bill Murray]

Sold lumber. Sold lumber.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sold lumber. Number.

[Bill Murray]

But he just. When he started to make real, real money, he. He died. He died very young. 46 years old, he was. So nowadays, that's really young, even then. Yeah, I was really young. But to leave nine kids, it was. It was a tough, tough moment.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Bill Murray]

He was a great man. But then my mother sucked it up and went to work as a cement finisher. So, wow. No, not.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm like, there's no chance.

[Bill Murray]

She worked in the mail room. She got. I got you emotional. And now you're. Now you're a puppet.

[Travis Kelsey]

You reeled me in your profession.

[Bill Murray]

Sorry.

[Jason Kelsey]

She also had nine caddies. She had the side. Yeah, she had nine kids going.

[Bill Murray]

And then she went. But she. But she took a job and. Yeah, you know, she was a quite a strong woman.

[Jason Kelsey]

You started off in improv when you started getting into comedy. Is that accurate, or should I say.

[Bill Murray]

That's right. That's right. Right.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did any of your siblings also do.

[Bill Murray]

Well, my brother Brian was the first one to go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he. So bad.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, he was the first one to go. He started going to Second City.

[Jason Kelsey]

I was about to say Second City.

[Bill Murray]

Taking improv class and so forth. And then he kind of progressed. And before you knew it, he was in the show. So I would go down there and watch. Watch him and watch. He and Harold Ramis and Joe Flaherty and. Yeah, Belushi and all these guys, they were all ahead of me. And I would just go there to hang out, really, because it was sort of a safe zone for me, for sure. But I got. I. It was an accident. The first time I tried to. I tried an improv class, I was so bad, I, like, walked out on the street and walked about 60 blocks south, which is probably the wrong direction for me to be going back then. It was. And all of a sudden I was like, at 63rd and Stoney, and I'm like, what am I doing here? I don't. I don't. I. I'm. I'm.

[Jason Kelsey]

Now.

[Bill Murray]

I'm. Now I gotta run. So I felt like I was scared of the dark.

[Jason Kelsey]

But, yeah, it was.

[Bill Murray]

That's how bad I was. And that's how. How disturbing it was to think you're good and not be good. But then years later, I got, you know, someone. It was, like, kind of very poetic. Underneath the clock at Marshall Fields, I stepped out and the, you know, bells are ringing at 6:00 Christmas Eve. And there's the lady who teaches the improv. She says you're Brian's little brother. Yeah. Do you know how to paint? You mean like houses? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give you a scholarship if you come and paint my kin. And so that's the story. But anyway.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay. What? Yeah, that's crazy.

[Bill Murray]

It's. No, it's a. It doesn't have a happy ending. Turns out she's one of those ladies that has, like, cats and everything. She Wears is purple.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

You know, I don't know if these people exist anymore.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, they do. They definitely do.

[Bill Murray]

So anyway.

[Jason Kelsey]

So a lot of them listen to the show, actually.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah. Anyway. No, some of them are. I've known more than a few, but this one had to have the kitchen painted purple. That's why she lived in what they call a garden apartment, which is like below the ground level. So all the pipes of the whole building came through her kitchen ceiling. So I had to paint all those hot pipes. So I was purple for about a week, eight days or so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, nice.

[Bill Murray]

And burned the tune.

[Travis Kelsey]

And from that point on, you knew you wanted to do improv. That's crazy.

[Bill Murray]

You know, I don't know if you've ever been speckled with purple paint, but it lights a fire in you. It lights a fire and you got to keep going.

[Jason Kelsey]

What? So I went to. Actually, so in high school we went to Second City. I played in the jazz. This is kind of embarrassing to say. I played in the jazz ensemble when we were tour different cities and one of the cities went to was Chicago. Nerd went to Second City, was awesome. That's my first experience with improv. I've recently been back to an improv show for the first time since then, which was 2004. I went to Upright Citizens Brigade in LA and I did their ASCAT show. Are you familiar with that? Where they invite like a. A guest who does like a monologue. And then from that monologue, the crew just. Just takes off and I mean, just some of the. The funniest.

[Bill Murray]

Did you do a monologue?

[Jason Kelsey]

I did a monologue. I did a few. What was your theme? We just took questions from like the audience and then you'd go into a story from there. I told the story about how I got lost at the county fair and mom had to try and search for us, but classic. Just watching how people. How they could play off of each other. I was mesmerized just watching the whole show take place. How do you. I don't know. I. Now that we're talking about improv, I want to ask you, how do you learn to do that? Like, are there techniques. Are there things that happen behind the show where you build like a chemistry with the per. Like it just. It seemed insane to me that they were able to make all.

[Bill Murray]

Is this going to be yet another career change for you?

[Travis Kelsey]

Another one.

[Bill Murray]

First your jazz music and then this is football thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think this is after government podcast. This is after mayor.

[Bill Murray]

The guys that are really good. I don't consider myself a great improviser. They were people that were far. That are. Were always better than I was.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

But people that are good at it, and my brother Joel's very good at it, is listening to what the other person says and trying to figure out they're giving you information, what do you do with that information.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Bill Murray]

You know, bad improvisers are people that have an idea what they're going to do and they just sort of try to barrel through it. Well, that's a one man show. You know, it's not a team game and it's, you know, the dictum is yes. And you know, you say something to me, I agree with that. And. And I come back with that. You never deny what someone says. You build on what they give you. You're starting with building blocks of information. That's how it goes. And you know, the better people can make something that's really, really magical, you know, because if you really connect to the ideas that are being shared, especially in like a group improv, like a 9 person, 12 person, 1, like they call the Herald, you know, where you could take an idea that's over that this group over here brings up and weave them together into something that's an amazing, amazing experience.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love it. Man. Man.

[Jason Kelsey]

But what is interesting about improv, it feels like they oftentimes do make great actors. They do make great writers. Like all the people on the wall in that second city when I was there back then to see all these wonderful.

[Bill Murray]

Well, they only put the good people. Let's start with.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's true.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's very squatting.

[Bill Murray]

Dozens that are buried in a shallow grave just the other side of North Avenue.

[Jason Kelsey]

It feels like improv as opposed to like stand up. I would like. It feels like there's like a natural.

[Bill Murray]

Well, I'm naturally prejudiced towards our team, you know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

We always feel like at Saturday Night Live.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

You know, those people were sort of. Most of them were kind of improvisational players, you know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Bill Murray]

And the ones that could do that just seemed to be able to like work together better. And most especially because you'd write the show on a weekly basis, you only had a couple days to write it. Those actors that had that kind of training could sort of solve the puzzle of the sketch on the air. Almost be like, you could go like, hey, wait, what if? And you just sort of go there in the last hour or two just to make it right. You could rewrite just because you were aware you had all that information what scene was could be or supposed to be. And you can figure out an ending. So that's when you see those actors, they basically make it do better. You know, the ones that were stand up guys were, you know, sort of made more like stand up pieces, more solo pieces that were spectacular. You know, you know, Eddie Murphy in the hot tub or whatever. You know, those guys made those kinds of performance pieces, but the ensemble pieces and they, they're actually doing really great ones now. Now they, they do some really. You know, people always give me a hard time about. Look, oh, God, the original show was so great and it's lousy now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like.

[Bill Murray]

No, it's not. The show that's on now, they do stuff that's just as good as anybody ever did all the time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, I love it, man. SNL is still one of my favorites. What do you. I do before we get into your, your SNL career? What do.

[Bill Murray]

You don't have to talk about me all the time.

[Jason Kelsey]

You guys can talk about Travis did snl. Absolutely.

[Bill Murray]

You did it, right?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I hosted two years ago. Yeah. After the, the first.

[Bill Murray]

I saw, I mean, I saw some of it. I record it, so. Because, because I'm, I usually do something else, but I saw some of it. It was funny.

[Travis Kelsey]

I appreciate that, man. It was, it was an absolute blast. You just buckle up and you just enjoy that ride, man. And, and like you said this, the scenes, the sketches can change last minute because somebody has a, has the brilliance of mind to, to either take something out or put a punchliner in, man.

[Bill Murray]

And the damn producer's gotten so good. He's gotten so damn good that he's just ruthless.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who's that?

[Bill Murray]

I forget his name.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, what's, what's, what's the.

[Bill Murray]

No, yeah, he's been on, he's been drawn a paycheck for 50 years. He's on.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was one thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

The Apple TV movie Saturday night on their first, first ever show. Like the 90 minutes leading up to that first show with Belushi kind of going crazy and, and just all the madness that happens in there and the magic that happens as well of it finally coming together and them going live, man, and the rest is history. But for those SNL lovers out there, man, make sure you check that one out. I did. I, I really do want to know. What do you, what do you think it is about Second City that prepares so many people? Because it's almost like a pipeline, or at least it was for SNL for, for quite a while.

[Bill Murray]

Well, it sure Was. I mean, now it's a. Now it's like a. It's like University of Phoenix or something. There's like thousands of people there. They've got like a. They have like a high rise of, like, classes of people taking the thing. But it used to be, you know, sort of a gritty kind of, you know, practice squad, third string, second string, first string kind of thing.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

And you had to, you know, you knew who was better than you. Loud and clear. You know, it was very clear who could do it and who couldn't. And if you weren't as good as that person, you just had to just keep chewing nice. So. And that's how it was pretty much. I mean, recently, I don't know who's on first anymore about coming out of there, but, I mean, they had a great run of people that came out of there. Like when Chris Farley and those people came out of there, that. That was a good group. And the original, like, Belushi and, you know, myself, Gilda Ackroyd, you know, those people, you know, so it comes, like, probably the same deal. It comes in waves, you know, but now there's so many. I don't know what to make of it. But it's. It's a great thing to learn how to do. It's a great way to. If you can live life like that, too.

[Jason Kelsey]

You. You talked about this. I think the improv thing, if you, like, you were bringing up. That's like a team game. You're working with other people and like a collaborative experience. When Travis was on snl, that was the one thing that stood out about SNL is the amount of people that make that show possible. And, you know, you brought up Lauren. I didn't know what to expect from Lauren going to it. I didn't know that he was still, like, doing the whole thing in, like, a very active manner. Like, even up until, like, right before the thing goes live, right after that first rehearsal, he's cutting things.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And changing bits. Like, all the people, all the makeup, the wardrobe. Everybody's got, like their own pit crew. It felt the most like a game day for football outside of that experience.

[Travis Kelsey]

You ain't lying. Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

You see that when people win a championship, they say, though, they credit the whole organization and it really is that way.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

And I've said this, you know, this old news, but, like, when Lauren got that show together, he demanded from NBC that they give him the best sound man, the best sound mixer, the best technical director, the best lighting guy, the best Prop man and all those guys that were on that show were the best in the business at doing it. So that when, you know, Mickey Mouse here comes up and, like, blows it, and Willie the prop man says, billy, I was there waiting for you at the door. I had the pistol in my hand. You didn't get there on time. And he kills you. He's just. He looks at you like, you're not there yet, son. You're just not there yet. Wow. But I also credit those people because. And they were there on the original shows, like your show of shows and like Milton, bro. And they've been on the, like, the biggest shows of television in the early days. And so they'd seen people go from being unknown to being famous.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

In a short amount of time. And they saw. They'd seen how big a jerk you can become. And it's just a miraculously short amount of time.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

And they. They just, you know, they. It was the same look. Like they just look at you going. And you knew that somehow you'd screwed up like many people screwed up before.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

And it was sort of up to you to figure it out. So they were. They were incredible teachers.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

I'm sure the same. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

They made it extremely comfortable for a jabroni like me to come through and. And have some fun. Live out one of his childhood dreams. Man. Man. In terms of the host from when you were on, when you were working for snl, who. Who was the most memorable or the one, maybe that. That blew you away with their ability to go from one world into the snl, like, hosting.

[Bill Murray]

There's only one that stands above all others. The man that when they made the song We Are the World, I don't know who it was, said, hey, hey, The Statue of Liberty just walked in, and it was Ray Charles.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, wow. Holy cow.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Bill Murray]

Ray Charles completely buries every other entertainer I've ever met or worked with.

[Travis Kelsey]

So cool.

[Bill Murray]

To hear.

[Jason Kelsey]

Why is that? In what way?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm gonna make it do what it do, baby.

[Bill Murray]

Ray Charles, that night came on. Not only did he memorize all his lines. I don't want to say Ra. Ray Charles was not using cue cards. Okay. I say that Ray Charles was not using cue cards. Ray Charles knew all his lines cold. Ray Charles came on and played solo. He played with the Raylets. He played with his septet, and he played with the Saturday Night Live orchestra. And he may have played with his quintet as well. And he killed and murdered every single one of them. And, you know, the end of that Show. They play that song. They play the song. Saxophones playing. You're like, hey, man, I had a great week. You're up there on the stage and you're waving to people. I did not want to stand on that stage. I had no business being on the stage with Ray Charles.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's awesome.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wow, that is so cool, man. That was. I was not gonna lie. I wasn't expecting Ray, man. That's awesome.

[Bill Murray]

He was the coolest man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, you got the. The 50th season celebration coming up. You. You're gonna go back to the old stomping ground?

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, certainly.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Actually, I. I told him I'd like to host one this year, so maybe if I get organized. But I think that I. I think I did it two other times and when I was there. So I'd like to try it one more time. Except it might be the last time to try it.

[Travis Kelsey]

When you go back, do you have, like, skits that you would have in mind?

[Bill Murray]

When I go back, the guys down at the desk say, do you have a photo I.D.

[Jason Kelsey]

S?

[Bill Murray]

And I got.

[Jason Kelsey]

I gotta go.

[Bill Murray]

Would you mind dialing this number and seeing if someone will come down and get me? I mean, we used to breeze through that place, you know, we. That was our.

[Jason Kelsey]

Giving me a hard time.

[Bill Murray]

And I can't get through security. I cannot get through security. They're not kidding around.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love it, man. Well, hopefully we'll be able to see a host one this year.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, let's. Let's transition a little bit to the movie career. What? You know, we talked about some of your iconic movies earlier. We just golf, so we gotta bring up Caddyshack. You talked about being a caddy earlier.

[Travis Kelsey]

Was your character based off somebody like when you were. When you were on horse?

[Bill Murray]

Oh, yeah, My character. My character originally had one small scene in the movie, and I did have one line in the movie. I can't remember what it was exactly, but there was another greenskeeper, a Scottish man. But they end up liking my stuff, and they kept asking me to come back down and shoot more stuff. So that stuff.

[Travis Kelsey]

Stuff wasn't.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, my stuff wasn't in the script. No. That is gold, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're like, we gotta get more of this guy.

[Bill Murray]

Well, we were. I was having fun, you know, and I had the spirit of it, you know, I was a caddy too, so. And I've been a greenskeeper. I'd actually been a greenskeeper as well. So I had that thing nailed, screwed, and glued. You know, I could come in and empower those positions.

[Travis Kelsey]

Keeping the lawn. You're keeping the lawn in the back looking nice and tight. Just, just. Just in case you need to take a few wedges back there.

[Bill Murray]

No, no, no, no. Mine, mine. Mine is a waist area.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did you realize at the time that that movie would be the icon that it ended up becoming even before? No.

[Bill Murray]

Back then, you were just doing it to have fun. You know, you didn't think about. Gosh, you didn't. You were just having the most fun, you know? And that was. That was a crazy. That was a bunch of really, really funny people. People in one place. That was. That was a dangerous group of funny people. We, you know, we lost some people on that movie. There's some people that tried to compete on that movie. And just there they go downstream the other one. But there, that was, you know, think about who those characters were, you know, Absolutely. Ted Knight and Rodney. Chevy and Chevy.

[Travis Kelsey]

So cool, man.

[Bill Murray]

It was a great bunch of characters. It was really. Brian. I. I'm forgetting most everybody, Michael. But it was a. It was a nice bunch.

[Jason Kelsey]

We talked about this out on the course. And earlier, Kingpin is a Lane Johnson. And I would just rave about that movie and quote, Ern McCracken is Irma Kraken the best movie villain of all time, potentially.

[Bill Murray]

Well, he said some of the cruelest things.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, just like, talk about just a bad guy.

[Bill Murray]

Oh, just a you. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not yet.

[Bill Murray]

I had to change hats here. This is the caveman. This is the official logo of the. Of the design team, the builders and grinders. Yeah, that was a cruel. The cruelest thing I ever said professionally. We're doing a scene. We're in a coffee shop scene, and I'm just playing this total creep. And I think I'm stealing bags of sugar at the time. I look over at some women at the next table, and I said, hey, how are you? And one of the ladies, they were just like day players. They didn't have lights. She said, I'm okay. I said, no, not you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not you.

[Bill Murray]

You, You. And it was just the meanest, meanest thing I could do. And there was this silence that was so, so horrible. It was so horrible. And the director, the fairly. They just let it go. They just let this horrible thing just sink in. Finally, after about 99 seconds, they said, cut. And I had to, like, go get on my knees in front of this woman saying, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. I'm just playing a horrible person. You're very, very beautiful. You're very beautiful. If I didn't have to work right now. We'd leave, you know, we'd leave her. It was so horrible. I was just like, oh God, please say cut so I can get this apology over with. It was so bad.

[Travis Kelsey]

I gotta know how this movie came about, man. Did you like know exactly the character and like how to portray him or did you kind of just like fall into it?

[Bill Murray]

I kind of. Well, they've certainly. I mean, the Fairly's wrote a really, you know, pretty great sketch of it. But to their credit, they kept saying, and I can pimp them now because it's. It worked. But they would say, how about if you say this? And it would be. I'd say, let me try something. And then because they would. They'd sort of throw one up there on the wall. They were throwing spaghetti on the wall all the time. Yeah, but it made you always think more like, okay, no, it's the opposite of improv. But yes. And yeah, yeah, yeah, that idea. But something. So it made it just really fun and it just kept getting better and. And the more they said they would suggest ridiculous things. You go, okay, how about if you go in there, I'll go, I got that, I got that area. But how about if I knocked down a five iron instead? It was sort of like that. It was sort of like, yeah, I know where you're going here, but let me see what I can do.

[Travis Kelsey]

It seems like you're a natural athlete. Were you always a bowler as well or.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, I'm. I'm a natural athlete.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just a natural.

[Jason Kelsey]

We saw that today.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, actually. Actually I'm very proud of that. All those strikes. I rolled, I rolled those live. I rolled all those strikes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did you nail those last three?

[Bill Murray]

I rolled that last frame.

[Jason Kelsey]

I rolled them live against Roy.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's awesome.

[Bill Murray]

And I nailed them all. They couldn't, you know, cuz all they're thinking is how many takes is this going to take?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Don't. Every single one.

[Travis Kelsey]

I rolled with the performance.

[Bill Murray]

Every single one I rolled.

[Jason Kelsey]

I rolled a strike.

[Bill Murray]

That was my. That may have been an athletic peak for me.

[Jason Kelsey]

I got.

[Bill Murray]

Think that was pretty good. Of course, their editing of that movie. What's that song? Who was with us? Well, showdown. It's like elo. Is it showdown. The music of that, that bol off thing and the hair thing. Yeah, yeah, the hair thing was a really good thing too. That was awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, oh my.

[Travis Kelsey]

I send those memes in that, that little short video out to everyone when I'm just feeling unstoppable the turn and right. The hair, dude, it is gold.

[Jason Kelsey]

So good.

[Bill Murray]

When I get my special Oscar, when they wheel me out, that's the footage I want.

[Travis Kelsey]

So good.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, that was. I, I, and I like to say the first day at work in the, in the makeup trailer, I said, there's, I'm next to Woody Harrelson. I go like, Woody, what are you gonna do with your hair? He said, I'm going with the combat comb over. And I said, me too.

[Jason Kelsey]

High.

[Bill Murray]

Comb over guy was the comb over guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's so cool, man.

[Bill Murray]

We both had some pretty funny comb overs in that one.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was some great hair scenes.

[Bill Murray]

I had to go to. I'd had to. I didn't see the movie and I, and I only really saw, I only really saw what I shot. I didn't see like all this other stuff that they'd done. Oh, yeah, like the landlord stuff. Stuff with the lady. So gruesome. Just so horrible. Sade, I'm gonna send you a VCR, Mr. Munson.

[Jason Kelsey]

I do.

[Bill Murray]

And this stuff was so rough and so raw. And I took my son Luke to it and he was 10 and I never, I didn't see a lot of this stuff.

[Jason Kelsey]

And there was. Oh my God. Stuff. Oh my God.

[Bill Murray]

There was stuff that was in the movie that when we were doing it, I said, no, no, no, you can't use that. No, no, no, just say it. We're not going to use it. I'm like, no, no, you're not going to say that. And they, they cheated and they cut things together that were inappropriate.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah, inappropriate.

[Travis Kelsey]

Selfishly, I thank them.

[Bill Murray]

I was so stunned. We walked in silence. I'm walking with my 10 year old son. We walked in silence about two and a half blocks to a parking garage to get to the car. I hadn't said a word. And he said, you were good, dad.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did he ask any questions about the.

[Bill Murray]

That wasn't obviously your fault. You were good, dad.

[Travis Kelsey]

Classic, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know what the Bible says about forgiveness? It's against it.

[Bill Murray]

Which time? Okay, you mean the eye for an eye thing or the other thing?

[Jason Kelsey]

Speaking of people that you've worked with, we talked about, you know, your favorite on SNL movie. Yeah, right.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who's your favorite? I don't know, actor or person you've worked with in the film industry. You did Space Jam with Michael Jordan.

[Bill Murray]

I, well, he was probably the best shooting guard that I worked with.

[Travis Kelsey]

Larry. The best small forward.

[Bill Murray]

And actually Larry was the best. He was in that movie too. He was the best small forward.

[Travis Kelsey]

So good.

[Bill Murray]

That was fun. That was a very, very fun movie. We got to. We shot. We played golf in between scenes. It was a lot of fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't want to get too much into Space Jam, but it is one of the childhood favorites of ours and so many others. Man. How. How did. How did Space Jam come into play for you? Were you. You just like. Because you were so in the sports world as well, like your fandom and your. Your ability to kind of dive into all these sports that did that play into getting the roller.

[Bill Murray]

So I knew Ivan Reitman, who I'd made a couple of movies with already. Ghostbusters and Stripes and Meatballs. He was a producer on it. It was a Warner Brothers movie, I think. And they had to build a basketball court for Michael on the lot. And they built like a serious basketball court with a weight room.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

And it was like the game. Like, if you were an American basketball player, you had to suck your way into that. That game every night. And Michael would play after work when they were on. On location or on the set, on. On in. In the studio. And it was like a real serious wood floor gym and the whole deal. And that was a real, like, every. If you. No matter what team you played for, you had to get into that game because that was who was who and who wasn't. That's so cool. I know. I just like to say that about nine people said, you know, Michael really wants you to be inspired. Space Jam, which is like, I get a kick out of saying this all the time. I pimp Michael all the time, whatever I can. But Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is nod. That's all you got to do. Because it just means, you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, right.

[Bill Murray]

I bet you if he sets his mind to it, he could find my phone.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Or you could find out where I live or even, you know, walk up on the street. Not a hard place, but basically, I know there are people like that in the world, and you'll meet them, that they're. They feel like they never want to be indebted to anybody for anything. They don't want to owe anybody anything. So they'll have their people sort of ask something. Have you ever noticed this?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes, of course. Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

So they'll have someone else ask for you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

So I knew exactly day one. I knew exactly what was coming here. I heard from every. I probably heard from, like 13 different people. And the More people, the more I enjoyed it because I knew it was like that son of a bitch is just twisting, knowing he's got to ask me himself. But it was good. He finally, he did, God bless him and it turns out the golf course.

[Travis Kelsey]

Where did he find you?

[Bill Murray]

I don't really remember. I don't really remember. But it was good. I was glad I was there and I contributed to that movie.

[Travis Kelsey]

You had to have gotten in at least one of the games.

[Bill Murray]

Oh, no, I had. No, no, I mean, I don't think I. I may have just only shot a basket before the game. That game was like. I mean, they were emptying prisons to get into that game. There were people never be allowed to play in the NBA that were playing in that game. There were just some amazing athletes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wow.

[Bill Murray]

In that game. And like. Like the best high school players that try to show up there and they just. Michael just kicked their ass. He just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, I love it.

[Bill Murray]

People would come in there, think of that game and Michael just murder him. He was. He was a killer.

[Travis Kelsey]

You just. You just don't have like stories or like a legend like that anymore. Like everything is just so social media forward that it, like stuff like that just gets posted and the story of it, the legend of it never like rides anymore. And I just love stuff like that. Like. Like stories of Dr. J playing on the bed, on the playground or stories of Michael Jordan having these like basketball gyms everywhere he goes so that he can stay on top of his game while he's working.

[Bill Murray]

And it was never a thing. Like Michael Jordan called up. Someone said, hey, I'm having a basketball game. It was the same deal. It's like Michael Jordan is having a game, you know, and. And the P. And it was not like anyone at all was invited. And you could tell that no one was invited. You could tell that like Reggie Miller wasn't invited, sort of. But he was.

[Jason Kelsey]

He had to be there. Yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Because he was Reggie Miller. It's like, wait a minute, I'm the best shooter. I got him. All these guys. It wasn't like any. Like Michael was particularly friendly towards anybody. You know, it's like, I'm going to kill you. It was, it was fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

Out the door at Warner Brothers or just NBA stars just with their gym bag just waiting.

[Bill Murray]

Every level, I mean like every PM every. Yeah, like all of ucla, Southern Cal, every historic guy was there thinking that they could still play. There was a grimness about it. You know, you see that, like that dream team Doc, you know, where all of a sudden it gets real serious.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Bill Murray]

Well, it was like that.

[Jason Kelsey]

That.

[Bill Murray]

Where you go, like, oh, my God. There, you know, it wasn't exactly blood and there wasn't exactly fighting, but it was. You know, it was.

[Travis Kelsey]

I would assume that Michael set the tone for that, because when you watch the last dance and you watch the Dream Team and you hear his competitive nature, you know, you would assume that he. He definitely set that tone when everybody walked in that. In that gym. That this is for. I mean, for lack of a better word, this is for killers or, like, guys that. That love to compete so much that they're going to get. You're going to get every ounce of it tonight. Like. Yeah, like that. That's. It was like that.

[Bill Murray]

Don't ever play golf with them. Don't ever play golf now. I'm telling you.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, we're going to get to this last section. You've. What is this gracious section? It's called. We got to ask. We ask you a bunch of questions. There's only a couple in here. But you don't have to.

[Bill Murray]

I haven't asked.

[Jason Kelsey]

We got to ask. But you don't.

[Bill Murray]

I didn't ask you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, you can absolutely ask any questions you want.

[Bill Murray]

I don't know if I'm that way. We'll find out after you ask me.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, you don't have to answer. You can tell us the off. Please let me finish your question at least first. So we recently reviewed Road House, the original Patrick Swayze film.

[Bill Murray]

Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

There is a legend out there that you used to call the husband of Kelly lynch, who plays Dr. Clay. Anytime a particular scene came on with Patrick Swayze on the television. Is this rumor true?

[Bill Murray]

One of the hardest things I ever had to do was to call a friend. Knowing. And at a late hour. I mean, very. And not without some talk, some back and forth. Should I, shouldn't I? Should I, shouldn't I? And as a friend, you had to do it. I did not. I did not identify myself. But I just said, hey, as a friend, I think you should probably turn on TBS right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, God.

[Bill Murray]

Because that son of a. Pat swam. Slam it to your wife.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bill Murray]

Swayze, may he rest in peace. To a lot of wonderful things. A beloved guy. But that was wrong, what he did.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, this is why you're the legend.

[Jason Kelsey]

God, that's so good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you for this. Gold man.

[Jason Kelsey]

He says wrong. What's wrong?

[Bill Murray]

Are we done now?

[Travis Kelsey]

Bill Murray, ladies and gentlemen.

[Jason Kelsey]

Bill, thank you so much for coming on our show.

[Travis Kelsey]

Pissed. I Missed this one, man.

[Bill Murray]

Like it. I'm sorry you weren't here for this, but.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. You also missed out on the best energy bar I've ever been given in my life from Bill.

[Travis Kelsey]

You got some good energy.

[Jason Kelsey]

The best. Like, pre. Round. Like in round snack. I think I still got.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, it's street. It's. You got.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's the street, dude? I'm telling you right now. Clack's snacks.

[Bill Murray]

Yeah, it's some Clack snacks.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is.

[Bill Murray]

It's a mini version.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's bar fruit cake.

[Bill Murray]

It's Claxton fruitcake, and it's made in Claxton, Georgia, about 20 miles from. This is an amazing. People have gone to war, like, in Europe over fruitcake. This is the greatest fruitcake ever made, and it's extraordinary. It's so damn good.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm gonna be honest.

[Bill Murray]

We stopped there. We stopped there last two years ago on the way.

[Jason Kelsey]

A bunch. It's real.

[Bill Murray]

They do deliver. And these guys are golfers, too, which is even more. More wonderful.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's in the realm of, like, energy bar on the course.

[Bill Murray]

Well, it's a fruitcake, but it's. It's the best tasting one you've ever had. Am I not. You are not exaggerating by it.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is very good.

[Bill Murray]

And it's just a burst of energy.

[Jason Kelsey]

These guys are going to be thrilled.

[Bill Murray]

It's really good, but. It is. It's really good.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are the people paying for the ad space are going to be very upset with how good this ad just was, but damn it, it's a damn good fruit bar. So they deserve it.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's.

[Bill Murray]

It's really good. And if you have. I have these in your golf bag is a great thing, because it's like you get weak around 14, you know, too much beer or whatever. Yeah, son, I'll take the five iron in one of those clacks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, hey. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

David.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, thank you so much for joining us. This was awesome.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thank.

[Bill Murray]

All right. Okay. Well, enjoy that Kansas City experience. So who's going to win the Super Bowl?

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Trav thinks it's going to be Kansas City.

[Bill Murray]

Who's going to be your competition? Let me put it this way. Who's going to be your competition in the Super Bowl?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think a little Eagles rematch. They're getting hot at the right time.

[Jason Kelsey]

They are getting hot at the right time.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're getting hot at the right time.

[Jason Kelsey]

It'll be. I think it's. It's. It's. In the afc. You have the Chiefs and the Bills and then in the nfc, Detroit and Philly seem to be the top.

[Bill Murray]

Well, hell, I could have come up with that. You guys are supposed to be pros. Welcome to the Lions and the Eagles. Oh, nice word, fellas.

[Jason Kelsey]

And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. That's right. Thank you to our incredible guest, Bill. Dude, this is. I think this is the outside of talking to you on a weekly basis, because we obviously enjoy doing that. Yeah, I just. I can't believe that I fucking played golf today and did a podcast episode with Bill Murray.

[Travis Kelsey]

You son of a.

[Jason Kelsey]

What the are we.

[Travis Kelsey]

How do we get all the fun in season? Don't you?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, you keep playing football, I'll keep having all the fun out here. By the way, never leave, never grow up. Stay as long as you can.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's a little dark.

[Jason Kelsey]

Although it is pretty cool when you get to have days with Bill Murray, but I don't know that that's happening again. All right, make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to the new Heights channel and follow New Heights on the Wonder wherever you get your podcasts. Remember, you can listen to new episodes of New Heights early and at free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts.

[Travis Kelsey]

Once again, New Heights is a Wondery show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Google tv. No more endless browsing. Google TV makes it easy to find what to watch.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. We'll have plenty of them with this Bill Murray interview, baby. And thanks to our production and crew. Always. And thank you to the 92 percenters for tuning in and listening to these two. All right, we'll see you guys.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, thanks, guys. Jake, you want to come in and talk about that jets game dude? Bill's response to the Roadhouse question.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm so glad that we did that movie and then had Bill, like, it was just teed up so well.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was a good job, intern.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ernie McCracken himself.

[Jason Kelsey]

I wanted to just rip off quotes the entire episode, but I felt like.

[Travis Kelsey]

Anytime you have, like, an actor, but that is just kind of. He didn't want to talk about himself.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's not his vibe. Although he appreciated when you brought up some of the quotes. Are you hanging on? Are you still upset about that? I said I was sorry and I meant it. It's one of my favorite lines of that movie. Are you still upset about.

[Travis Kelsey]

I still can't believe his mom laid cement. All right, here we go. Follow New Heights on the Onery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to New Heights early and ad free, plus enjoy exclusive episodes of the show by joining Wonder plus us in the Wondry app, Apple Podcasts or Spotify today.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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