Chiefs' Streak Ends, Mahomes Injury, Rivers Reactions, Eagles Blowout & Playoff Predictions | EP 170

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce – Episode 170 Summary

Chiefs' Streak Ends, Mahomes Injury, Rivers Reactions, Eagles Blowout & Playoff Predictions
Release Date: December 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Jason and Travis Kelce working through a packed slate of NFL headlines: the Chiefs’ shock elimination from the postseason (and Patrick Mahomes’ devastating ACL injury), the Eagles’ emphatic blowout over the Raiders, Philip Rivers’ remarkable return to the field, and major playoff and NFC forecasts. As usual, the brothers bring a candid, inside-the-locker-room vibe, a brotherly blend of humor and directness, and honest reflections on injuries, leadership, and what makes great teams tick. NFL news gives way to a lighthearted taco debate, rants about bad halftime shows, and some Pokémon nostalgia.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. Kansas City Chiefs Season Collapse and Mahomes’ ACL Injury (04:05–11:25)

• Chiefs' Playoff Elimination

  • Travis is open about the pain of seeing Mahomes go down and the Chiefs’ decade-long playoff streak ending.
  • “For a guy that puts in that much and puts his body on the line week in, week out… it just sucks, man.” (Travis, 05:12)
  • Travis highlights the emotional toll on the team, noting lost momentum and one-score-game heartbreaks.
  • Jason reflects on being at the stadium and experiencing, for the first time, a Chiefs regular season game with no playoff implications since 2014.
  • “That is an outrageous stat: over a decade of postseason play for the KayCee Chiefs.” (Jason, 06:08)

• Leadership and Team Integrity

  • Travis acknowledges team unfamiliarity with playing ‘meaningless’ games but preaches keeping standards high:
    • “There’s an integrity thing here… you’re living out a kid’s dream that never got the chance to do this.” (Travis, 08:03)
  • Jason agrees and emphasizes cherishing the fleeting unity of a team, knowing rosters change every year:
    • “You only got three weeks left of this year’s team to play football… try to enjoy those.” (Jason, 09:38)

• Mahomes Injury & Recovery

  • Jason, having suffered an ACL tear himself, discusses the likely 8-9 month rehab and the devastation of seeing Mahomes’ season end in December.
  • Travis is confident in Mahomes’ resilience:
    • “He’s a fearless warrior… he’s going to make sure he comes back stronger than ever.” (Travis, 10:31)
  • Attention turns forward to the upcoming game against the Titans and finding ways to support Gardner Minshew at QB.

2. Chiefs-Chargers Game Respect & “Miked Up” Insights (12:00–13:54)

• Travis swaps jerseys and shares mutual respect with Chargers’ Derwin James, who made the game-sealing interception.
  • “There’s just a bunch of respect for how they carry themselves and go at it.” (Travis, 12:31)
  • Jason jokes about keeping track of who owes who jerseys in the league, including between the brothers.

3. Eagles Blow Out Raiders: Analysis & Playoff Outlook (17:01–22:47)

• Game Breakdown

  • “It’s everything you want to do against the Raiders… Offense did a really good job, run game stuck with it.” (Jason, 17:16)
  • Defense held Raiders to 70 total yards—“an all-time performance.”
  • Jason wants the Eagles to stick with the run, develop balance, and carry momentum into the playoffs:
    • “With the way this defense is playing, this team could be very dangerous in the postseason if they stay true to that formula.” (Jason, 19:22)

• Jalen Hurts’ Bounce Back

  • Near-perfect stat line (12-for-15, 175 yds, 3 TDs), with big praise:
    • “Everybody needs to remember where I came from and how I’m built.” (Hurts quote, 21:51)
  • “They did a great job of being a very balanced offense, and that’s what they need to be.” (Jason, 22:01)

• Playoff Scenarios

  • Eagles need only one more win or a Cowboys’ loss to clinch the division, which would be the first NFC East repeat winner in 20 years.
  • “That is mind-blowing… That is a competitive division.” (Travis, 24:14)

4. Old Guys Rule! Eagles’ Brandon Graham Named Oldest Franchise Sacker (22:52–23:45)

• Brandon Graham sets franchise-age record for a sack:
  • “Grandpa Graham. Everybody’s talking about Old Man Rivers; we got Grandpa Graham on the Eagles.” (Jason, 23:11)
  • Fun banter about veteran longevity; Travis jokes: “It’s always fun when you start breaking your own records for old age.” (23:42)

5. Philip Rivers’ Return at 44: Heart, Courage, & Nostalgia (25:55–28:50)

• Rivers starts for Colts after five years out, nearly beats Seahawks, inspires praise:

  • “...the message that sends to the young men he’s in charge of… Incredible. We forget what sport’s about too often. This is a great reminder by Philip.” (Jason, 28:05)
  • Travis: “He’s always been that guy that’s played this game the right way… awesome to see him still sling the pigskin around, baby.” (28:28)

• Hall-of-Fame “Comebacks”?

  • Joking debate on which other retired stars could still play (Aaron Donald, Gronk, Peyton, Montana), and anecdotes about seeing legends throw at charity games (Doug Flutie is “peak athleticism,” 32:24).

6. NFC Playoff Forecasts & Key Matchups (34:38–36:56)

• Jason and Travis argue the Rams and Seahawks are the class of the NFC (ahead of the Bears, Packers, etc.).
• “I think the Rams are the best team right now in the NFC. Eagles are right there… they’ll be formidable in these playoffs.” (Jason, 35:05)

7. Halftime Shows: Boredom and Ridiculousness (37:15–39:56)

• Jason rants about uninspired shows (dog Frisbee, sheep riding for kids aka “mutton bustin”).
  • “If I have to see another dog catching a Frisbee, I’m gonna blow my brains out.” (Jason, 37:21)
  • Both agree: let’s see more creativity, nostalgia for dangerous and unique halftime stunts.

8. The Great Taco Debate (40:42–44:34)

• Jason and Travis spar about where the best tacos are found—LA vs. Kansas City—and what counts as “authentic”:
  • “I’m not going to KC for tacos.” (Jason, 41:09)
  • “Paper plate, foil – that’s good.” (Brandon, 41:55)
  • Argument about taco trucks, street food, and the true history of the taco, with Jason Googling (“tacos are street…”). Bickering and good-natured ribbing ensue.

9. Other Fun Segments and Picks (47:45–51:21)

• Cast and producers debate their favorite upcoming NFL matchups. Jake highlights Bucks-Panthers, Brandon wants Rams-Seahawks, and everyone is excited for Philip Rivers’ next start.
• Notable banter about how fast an NFL franchise can be “rebuilt” and what makes an organization succeed.

10. Stamps of the Week (52:42–54:02)

• Jason’s Pick: Dion Dawkins for creative offensive line play:
  • “He literally spun on him. Dude, that’s hilarious.” (Travis, 53:43)
• Travis’s Pick: Philip Rivers for proving old dogs can still play:
  • “Going out there and showing everybody I still got it. Even at 44.” (Travis, 53:55)

11. Final Banter: Pokémon Cards & Nostalgic Nerddom (55:08–56:32)

• Hilarious discussion about old and new Pokémon cards, who really knows how to play, and dismissing anything not “canon.”
  • “If it’s not in red or blue, it’s not canon to me.” (Brandon, 55:55)

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Notable Quotes

“There’s an integrity thing here, that when you sign up for the gig, you’re living out your dreams.”
— Travis Kelce, 08:03

“You only got three weeks left of this year’s team to play football. Like, next year it’s going to look different… Try to enjoy it.”
— Jason Kelce, 09:38

“He’s a fearless, fearless warrior when it comes to this football thing… he’s going to make sure that he comes back stronger than ever.”
— Travis Kelce, 10:31

“If I have to see another dog catching a Frisbee, I’m gonna blow my brains out.”
— Jason Kelce, 37:21

“Grandpa Graham. Everybody’s talking about Old Man Rivers; we got Grandpa Graham on the Eagles.”
— Jason Kelce, 23:11

“If it’s not in red or blue, it’s not canon to me. I’m sorry for whatever nerd that pisses off.”
— Brandon, 55:55

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Suggested Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chiefs Elimination & Mahomes Injury: 04:05–11:25
• Travis & Derwin James Respect: 12:00–13:54
• Eagles Blowout & Jalen Hurts: 17:01–22:47
• Brandon Graham’s Sack Record: 22:52–23:45
• Philip Rivers Returns: 25:55–28:50
• NFC Playoff Discussion: 34:38–36:56
• Halftime Show Rants: 37:15–39:56
• Taco Debate: 40:42–44:34
• Game Picks/Predictions: 47:45–51:21
• Stamps of the Week: 52:42–54:02
• Pokémon Banter: 55:08–56:32

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Tone & Style

• Classic Kelce banter—raw, brotherly, self-deprecating, occasionally crass, but always authentic.
• Insightful breakdowns of football with colorful side debates and rabbit holes.
• Inside-the-locker-room culture: direct references to the emotional and physical realities of the NFL.
• Humor flows, but so does poignant honesty about injury, team identity, and transition.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
Expect a candid, sometimes hilarious, but always thoughtful look at a pivotal NFL week, lead by two of football’s most relatable personalities. The Kelces’ mix of insight, grief over Mahomes, playful food wars, veteran nostalgia, and genuine love for the game makes this a must-catch episode for football fans and pop-culture listeners alike.

Transcript

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

I was thinking about this. Who else would be like, I mean.

[Travis Kelce]

I know a guy still trying to prove his athleticism and trying to dunk.

[Jason Kelce]

Travis, I can't bend my elbow right now. I can't even touch my head right now because I got a loose body stuck in my elbow joint. We'll go and get that cleaned out. Jason trying to avoid surgery.

[Travis Kelce]

Travis, Are we not rehabbing?

[Jason Kelce]

There's not a rehab. There's just a piece of cartilage that's floating around in there and it's stuck in my joint.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, well, yeah, Jason, you gotta go and get that cleaned out.

[Jason Kelce]

It's like stuck somewhere. I don't know if it's in the back or in the front, but it isn't leaving.

[Travis Kelce]

I don't know.

[Jason Kelce]

Anyway, it's not gonna be me.

[Travis Kelce]

Welcome back to new heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wondery show brought to you by Allstate. You're in good hands with Allstate. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey's my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. University of Cincinnati alum shout out to the Bearcats. We're in the basketball season now, baby. And doggone it, one of these days we got to win that crosstown shootout, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Come on.

[Travis Kelce]

Subscribe on YouTube Wonder plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, not 2 percenters.

[Jason Kelce]

We got another great episode. We'll talk about what's next for the Chiefs. Eagles blowing out the Raiders, the get back game of everybody season and old man Rivers getting in for the Colts. Before we get into that, we're gonna get into some new news is brought to you by Reese's Tre.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

The Reese's holiday treats are the best. We've always said it. Whether it's pumpkins or trees or sure, they got some type of bunny thing going on. It's oh, the eggs. Reese's trees better than Reese's pumpkins. Is that the question you're asking, Brandon? Looks like it. I mean, honestly, I think it's pretty similar. It's definitely similar to the pumpkin in the fact that they both have more peanut butter to chocolate ratio, which I enjoy. So I think they're probably about the same, if I'm being honest.

[Travis Kelce]

Going even. I'm going even.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, we got a lot of new heights coming your way for the holidays. This Friday, we're gonna be dropping our film club review of Home Alone with an incredible special guest. Yeah, that's right. The one and only kind of Kelsey not gonna lies only is in for the Home Alone guest episode. And next Monday, we got a great guest episode coming out. First guest we've ever had on the podcast. Well, he's back. Paul Rudd, everyone. Paul Rudd is back.

[Travis Kelce]

How about it, man? Kai and then Paul. God damn. Keeping it in the family, baby.

[Jason Kelce]

And next Wednesday, we'll release the New Heights holiday spectacular. We'll have the first ever New Heights Secret Santa unbox some stuff sent to us from the 92 percenters. And we got a full episode with Kylie Kelce. Ooh, how about that? You're not gonna wanna miss it. So listen, while you're getting ready for the holidays, New Heights is right there with you. How about that? She's also gonna be giving us some official shopping guides for dudes who can't shop good.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, that was classic.

[Jason Kelce]

I actually might need to rewatch that.

[Travis Kelce]

Jason, you are a great shopper.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

Since it's the holiday season, I'm gonna say the Reese trees are a little bit better than the pumpkins. All right, now let's get to some bold topics to wrap up week 15 in the NFL and unfortunately wrap up our playoff hopes.

[Jason Kelce]

Chiefs 13, Chargers 16. What are your thoughts following the game?

[Travis Kelce]

Well, first things first, obviously, we lost our. We lost our quarterback, man, Patty Mahomes, our guy, our. Our brother, our. Our fearless leader, our face of the franchise and to an acl. And it's just. It's never easy seeing your guys go down. We had a bunch of guys get hurt this past game and. And we fought, man. We fought. We had. We had some guys fight through some stuff. We had some guys unfortunately not make it back out on the field and for the season to be going like it did up to that point. And we're on our last, you know, quest to. To Try and keep our playoff hopes alive there in the fourth quarter. And on a freakish play, to see one five go down like that, man, was almost like it was. It wasn't real. And, and just sucks, man. For a guy that puts in that much and puts his body on the line week in, week out and, and, you know, makes this football world. He makes the best of it, man, by, by how hard he works. And it just. It sucks, man. And then obviously we, we had some momentum going there with our guy Garter Minshew, man, and tried to find a way there at the end, and it's just things just didn't go our way up to that point and, and yeah, and that's the, that's the game for you right there. It's just things just, you know, when you need them the most just weren't falling for us. And you got to go back to the drawing boards, man, and, and we got three games left. I know we're still talking about this game, but the integrity of who you are as a professional, as a player, you got to love this, man. And, and Chiefs king. And we're going to give you everything we got. And there's. There's no question about that. There's only one way I do things. There's only one way Coach Reed does things. And if we're going to go out there and play some football, we're going to do it the right way and keep trying to get these things fixed and end on the highest note that we can.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, for the first time since 2014, the Chiefs are eliminated from the postseason, which is an outrageous stat over a decade of postseason play for the Kansas City Chiefs. I was thinking about this the other day. What was crazy, being at the game. I don't think I've ever been in that stadium with you guys out of the picture in the regular season.

[Travis Kelce]

No, you haven't.

[Jason Kelce]

Definitely not.

[Travis Kelce]

2013, 14 was the only.

[Jason Kelce]

That would have been the only one, but I don't.

[Travis Kelce]

And there was only one game where we needed some things to happen and it didn't happen. And then we. We played the last game with our guy, Chase Daniels back there slinging.

[Jason Kelce]

Shut up. Yeah. So it's just wild. I mean, it was wild being there and, you know, I feel like it.

[Travis Kelce]

And it completely. It's a crazy, completely different year. That year we didn't have any wide receiver. Score, touchdown.

[Jason Kelce]

Right.

[Travis Kelce]

As crazy as that is, this year, we're, you know, numbers wise, we're, we're up there with some of the top Offenses and depending on what category you're looking at, but just critical moments, man, all the games we've lost were one score games, man. We were in it right there to the end.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. One in seven in one score games. Even that game up until the very last pick, I feel like you guys were gonna. In my head, I'm like, oh, they're gonna find a way to get it done.

[Travis Kelce]

And it's just because you guys felt like that, man.

[Jason Kelce]

You guys have just done it so much.

[Travis Kelce]

So that's why when 15 went down, I was like, no way. This is what happens, right?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, I guess. How do you approach the rest of the season? You talked about a little bit. We're going to go out there and battle together.

[Travis Kelce]

It's kind of unfamiliar territory at this point for a lot of guys in the building, the guys that have been there and I'm the only one that's been on the team long enough to, to see us not make the playoffs or to play a game that, that, you know, you.

[Jason Kelce]

There's notations or further in the season. Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

And, you know, it's obviously up, but, but it's, it's a new feeling. So all I know is to go out there and play my ass off and, and, and to show up and, you know, give my guys the best chance to win. And, and I think that's, that's the mentality, man. There's an integrity thing here, that when you sign up for the gig, you're living out your dreams. You're living out a kid's dream that never got a chance to do this. You're living out, you know, man. Yeah, you're, you're playing this game obviously to win Super Bowls. You're playing this game to be in those playoff scenarios and stuff, but at the end of the day, man, you're playing in the NFL.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

And that's a blessing. That's an honor. It's an honor to be out there. It's an honor to feel the soreness after a game because you're actually out there, you're doing it.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. You're living your dream.

[Travis Kelce]

And no matter if you're getting the ball thrown to you, no matter if you're, if you're blocking your tail off and you never, you know, see the pill, it's, it's an honor to be out there in a uniform playing for the, for the guys around you, playing for your family, playing for the, the people back home that are watching you then, that have known you since you were a Little kid dreaming about this moment or dreaming about these moments being in the NFL. And I'll tell you what, man, if. If there's a game to be had, baby, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna love playing in it. No matter if it's a game that in the playoffs or gets us in the playoffs or a game that, you know, seems like it doesn't have any implications of that, so.

[Jason Kelce]

No doubt. Well said, Trev.

[Travis Kelce]

And that's the integrity you gotta. You gotta fucking go out there with, man.

[Jason Kelce]

For sure. Yeah. The other thing I always think about whenever I play it in games like this or seasons that have gone south, you know, even in the years where everything doesn't work out, you still have like a team, you're still close with, guys. And I always thought similar to what you're saying, Trav, like, we only got three weeks left of this year's team to play football. Like next year it's going to look different, right? Guys are going back. Guys aren't going to be back. It's, it's. No two years are the same and you try to enjoy those. The few weeks that, you know, you have together. And yeah, obviously the big thing looming is not only you guys out of the playoffs, but, you know, Patrick Mahomes tears his ACL in December. Usually that's an eight to nine month injury recovery. I've been through it myself. It's a rough one. You hate to see it end that way, you know what I mean? It was just a devastating, like, kind of final moment there, and Gardner went out there and battled his ass off, you know?

[Travis Kelce]

You know, Gardner's going to do that, baby. That's just, that's all. That's how he's built, man. And, and we're gonna fight for him from here on out and then go out there and try and win some ball games with my guy. G. And obviously it came out that the surgery went well. And I mean, he's. He's a warrior, man. I'm telling you, this guy's played through everything, battled through everything, has be been crowned champion because he's battled through everything and he's gonna battle through this. It's the, it's the only way. This guy is, is wired, man. He's. He's a fearless, fearless warrior when it comes to this football thing. And he's going to make sure that he comes back stronger than ever. And, and, you know, hopefully the Chiefs can get him back as, as soon as possible. I know right now it's Kind of right around that week one or the. The. The beginning of the season next year. So I know he's going to be doing everything he can to get back. Back out on that field for the Chiefs as soon as possible, man.

[Jason Kelce]

I love it, brother. You guys are headed to Tennessee to face the 2 and 12 Titans.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, man, we got the Titans. And the Titans, as. As their record may show, they. They've only won two games, but, man, they're playing hard.

[Jason Kelce]

Hell yeah, brother.

[Travis Kelce]

And they got guys on that defensive line that can. That can wreck a game. Obviously, Jeffrey Simmons has been doing it for a while now, man. I'm a big old mean dude up front, and we're gonna. We're gonna have to find ways to be able to slow him down and make our Guy Gardner back, get comfortable back there. And from there, it's just mastering the game plan and getting out there and. And getting after it, man.

[Jason Kelce]

We do have this miked up video of you and Derwin, who had the game ceiling interception. Let's take a look at this. Give me this. Give it to me.

[Travis Kelce]

You already know.

[Jason Kelce]

Keep leading, man.

[Travis Kelce]

This is cool to see you transpiring, bro. You already know.

[Jason Kelce]

California, the best one.

[Travis Kelce]

Come on, do your thing, baby. We've had so many battles, man.

[Jason Kelce]

What a great dude, man. Just plays the game the right way. The attitude, the physicality, the toughness.

[Travis Kelce]

I love it when you know you can. You can get after somebody on the football field, they can pick you up and body slam you, and there's no bad blood. There's just. There's just a bunch of respect for how they carry themselves and go at it, and obviously, Derwin's one of the best ever. Do it, man. And so it was an honor to swap jerseys with him and the honor to share the gridiron with him, man. I'm a guy that. I love this game, man. I love the. I love it when I get to go being as another guy that I watch on film, and I'm like, that guy fucking plays this game the right way, you know? And. And he got me on a few this past game. It's cool that he. He came up and said all that, man. I wish him the best of luck the rest of the year, man.

[Jason Kelce]

The question is, have you sent them to Jersey yet?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, yeah. I shouted over to him.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, nice. There you go.

[Travis Kelce]

I still owe a few guys jerseys, so. You still owe me a jersey, Jason.

[Jason Kelce]

Do I. I feel like you have a jersey of mine.

[Travis Kelce]

I've stole, like, three jerseys from your house just Laying around. So I might have stole somebody else's that you're meant to get out to them.

[Jason Kelce]

Dude, I. I had like a mad dash of getting jerseys out to other guys late night.

[Travis Kelce]

Just start a note. Just starting notes of like, reminding yourself.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't remember the guys now at this point.

[Travis Kelce]

But you'll remember them when you see them. You'll be like, oh, I was supposed to get that guy jersey and just.

[Jason Kelce]

Write it down like, there's two guys. Like, I know. I already. I sent them jerseys, but I never got confirmation they got them. I hope they got them.

[Travis Kelce]

My breakouts. I played in India. I haven't gotten there the jerseys over to them yet. Sauce.

[Jason Kelce]

Alec Pierce.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, our guy Alec Pierce did. He's a stud.

[Jason Kelce]

I know.

[Travis Kelce]

Let's keep this thing moving, man. Shout out to the Chargers. Our guy, Jesse Menor. Coach. Mentor, I should say. He's. He's got those guys rolling. Obviously, I respect the hell out of Harbaugh and what they've been able to keep doing over there, man. And wish them the best of luck. Thank you to our sponsor, All State.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

That is also not smart. But not checking your fantasy lineup before kickoff.

[Jason Kelce]

Ah, yeah. Seeing a player with 40 points and realizing they're on your bench.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

Reese's. Or Reese's, however you like to call it. I'm pretty sure they would like us to say Reese's, so we're going to say Reese's and their perfect holiday companion, their Reese's trees.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, they are so good. Nothing says the holiday like Reese's Perfect. Peanut butter stuffed chocolate trees. They might be the best holiday candy ever. All right, up for debate. Every holiday tradition is better when you add Reese's trees.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, I mean, those go definitely better with Reese's trees.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

I mean, who doesn't like chocolate stains all over their ugly sweater?

[Travis Kelce]

I do. Skipping the ugly sweater party to watch football in your sweats instead.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, that's a no brainer.

[Travis Kelce]

Of course you throw on that ugly sweater anyways. Yeah. So celebrate the season with peanut butter perfection. And be sure to grab Reese's trees today. Jason, why don't you tell them where.

[Jason Kelce]

To get them from? What's found? Wherever candy is sold, literally, you can find it everywhere.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Still going? I have started it. I got some of it going.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm right there with you.

[Jason Kelce]

Amazon is definitely one of the go tos especially, I mean, dude, it's just, it's got everything. Yeah. The shipping is taken and it gets to you account. It's right on the app. There's such a huge selection.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. No question.

[Travis Kelce]

You can literally get anything and everything.

[Jason Kelce]

It's to the point where it's inconvenient to order things that aren't on Amazon. Like why aren't you guys just on Amazon?

[Travis Kelce]

Dude, it's so good. Dude, it's so good.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Good luck, Trav. Want to move on to some of the other things that happened this past week?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, let's talk a little. Raiders, Eagles. Let's do it, man. So far, New Heights has played the the Raiders pretty well. That's right. They haven't scored a single point against either one of our teams. The Eagles 31, Raiders 0. Jason, thoughts on the BIR?

[Jason Kelce]

Um, obviously it's everything you want to do against the Raiders, right? Like, you're playing a team that you know has been struggling and they're not very good, but you still got to go out there and perform. And you know, I thought the Eagles offense did a really good job. I thought that the, the run game is something that we stuck with it, right? Like the first series, I'm always watching like, okay, what is this going to be? What's the plan today? How many runs is it going to be? How much shotgun? How much under center? Like, what's the flavor? And in the first series, I think there were like seven runs. There was a quarterback designed run. It was clear that they were going to stick with that and try and establish a line of scrimmage was something I think they need to continue to do moving forward. And I just liked seeing it. They pushed the ball down the field, they created explosives. You know, it's everything that you want to see against not just the Las Vegas Raiders, but what this Eagles team needs to be moving forward. And then defensively, I mean, they held the Raiders to 70 yards on offense like it was an all time performance from the defense. This is what this team can be. You know, you, you, even when the run's not hitting early, you got to stick with it. You got to keep attacking line of scrimmage, keep making them defend that and then take your shots when they're there. And, and they did that throughout the game and I thought that that was outstanding and it's who they should be moving forward. And they got three games left, right? Two of them against the Washington Commanders, one of them against the Buffalo Bills. They're. They've pretty much all but clinched their spot in the playoffs. They just need one more win and it's over, really. One more loss by the Cowboys and it's over. So, you know, they're in the driver's seat. They're probably going to be the three seed. If they win out, there's a chance they could be the 2 seed. What I would like to see these last three games is continue to pound the rock, get that run game going. It was going to open up so much more for the offense. And if these guys can go into the playoffs feeling good, feeling confident, working with each other in executing these plays, I think it's going to help out Jalen a lot more. And with the way this defense is playing, that's this team could be very dangerous in the postseason if they stay true to that formula. So that's what I'm hoping to see.

[Travis Kelce]

Dude, there's so much fucking firepower over there, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Right.

[Travis Kelce]

In a game like this, you see it all clicking, man. It just, it shows you what you got, man. And then you just build off of it and it's. It's crazy what, what one game of putting it together can do, man. It can, it can. They can strike it up. There was a crazy stat out there that. I don't know the specific stat, which I probably shouldn't be saying it if I don't know the specific stat, but basically, after you, you win a shutout game the following week, I think it's almost 50 of the teams lose that following week.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, don't tell me this, Travis.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm just saying it's a stat to maybe tell the boys, text the boys, hey, yo, like that' weird why is that a very weird stat? And it might even be more than that, really. I think it was a staggering, staggering number of, of, of teams that lose that following week. I think kind of just it makes you feel at ease. Maybe the game plan isn't as, as crazy. Maybe the game plan isn't it. You know what I mean? Like, whatever it is, whatever it may be, the guys or the team that you're playing is like, holy, we got to get our together. We're playing this team that just embarrassed another team. Yeah. All right, good luck.

[Jason Kelce]

Hopefully we, we start changing that statistic a little bit better. There you go.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, there you go. We helped that.

[Jason Kelce]

Nice. There we go.

[Travis Kelce]

But this is what Gronk said about playing the Raiders, which is very, very hilarious thing. Not very nice, but when you play the Raiders, it's like putting Neosporin on your cuts. They heal those wounds.

[Jason Kelce]

It is true. I mean the level of, you know, the level that the fans were at these last couple weeks and understandably, you know, the Eagles had not been. Perform. But then all of a sudden you play the Raiders, who, you know, have won two games this year, I believe it has a tendency to, you know, make you feel good again. And that's a great way to put it by Gronk. I think the Eagles are smart enough to know that, you know, this, it was a great game, but they still got to improve and get better. But so much of playing well in the postseason is feeling good going into it.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, it's a big part.

[Jason Kelce]

I think the Eagles got some games here that they can feel good about. Hopefully, you know, they come out and put their best foot forward. They get into the playoffs with some momentum. So we'll see.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, Jalen hurts. 12 for 15. Almost a perfect day. 175 yards, three tutties before being replaced by Tanner McKee. And then Jalen quote after the game. He's always got one for us. Everybody needs to remember where I came from and how I'm built. All right now there you go. Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

He mess around. He's been sure he's been hearing all of this stuff, talking about it and the media. I mean, listen, it was a great bounce back game for him, obviously the game before with the turnovers and everything. Very uncharacteristic of Jalen hurts. It's not been who he has been largely in the NFL, but this is what I mean. He's got 15 attempts like, and if you would have played the whole game would have been more than that. But they, they did a Great job of being a very balanced offense, and that's what they need to be. They need to continue.

[Travis Kelce]

Even.

[Jason Kelce]

Even if it's not working, you got to stick with it because otherwise these guys just don't respect it. They don'. The line of scrimmage they're getting into, their zone drops easier. They're matching receivers right away. I came away this week and quite honestly, last week, even though it didn't work out, we had the picks. I came away from last week feeling like this offense is. Is showing signs of going in the.

[Travis Kelce]

Right direction and just prove that. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

And. And hopefully we get another game this coming week against the Commanders. That'll show that a little bit more.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go. Well, we got a LeBron stat of the game. Our guy at 37 years old, in 255 days, on top of those 30, Brandon Graham became the oldest player in Eagles history to record a sack in a game.

[Jason Kelce]

Here we go. Bg.

[Travis Kelce]

Grandpa Graham.

[Jason Kelce]

Grandpa Graham. Everybody's talking about Old Man Rivers. We got Grandpa Graham on the Eagles.

[Travis Kelce]

He's gonna hate that I said that.

[Jason Kelce]

Nah, BG don't hate nothing. He's the best. I feel like he had more than one, right? Yeah, he had a great day. Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. He had two sacks.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Doesn't surprise me one bit, dude.

[Jason Kelce]

He was. He was balling. He was in very vintage form.

[Travis Kelce]

Who was the oldest before that?

[Jason Kelce]

It might have been Baron and Graham. Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. I mean, it was great. It was Brandon.

[Jason Kelce]

Grandma.

[Travis Kelce]

36 years old.

[Jason Kelce]

It's always fun when you start breaking your own records for old age.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't know if that's true, though.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, you guys mentioned you guys played the Commanders on Saturday. A little Saturday in December, baby. Those college games start kind of going away and all of a sudden NFL is played on Saturdays now, baby.

[Jason Kelce]

Let's go, baby.

[Travis Kelce]

If the Eagles win or the Cowboys lose, the Eagles will become the first back to back division winners in the NFC east in 20 years.

[Jason Kelce]

How crazy is that?

[Travis Kelce]

That is mind blowing.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

That is a competitive division.

[Jason Kelce]

It's going to come to an end, too. I mean, it's absolutely bonkers. It's been 20 years since somebody repeated and yeah. Way to go, Birds. Suck on that, Cowboys. What other games got flex this week? How many? Usually, what, two or three games?

[Travis Kelce]

I think it's two. Two games get flexed. At least two games get flexed to Saturday and actually, I don't even know if that's. They might even. They might have even had this scheduled because now they just know When December comes that they're going to start flexing games.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't think it was scheduled because that's why they were surprised. Right.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, they're not the only game on Saturday. It looks like the packers are playing the Bears later that evening. You guys do have the day game though.

[Jason Kelce]

There we go. Well, two o' clock game. That's such a weird time.

[Travis Kelce]

I don't like it's Saturday.

[Jason Kelce]

I know, I get it.

[Travis Kelce]

But I don't like it's also. It's also could be west coast because this is Brandon's computer.

[Jason Kelce]

That is west coast. That's Brandon's computer. So that's a five o' clock start, which is still a weird time for a football game. I don't know that I like a five o'. Clock. One four or eight. Those are the time slots. We all know it. Stop fucking with me, NFL.

[Travis Kelce]

You're so ridiculous.

[Brandon]

So what I'm reading is they flexed you guys out of the prime time Saturday and gave that to Packers, Bears.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, they moved you to the.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, the Eagles Commanders game would have been a very weird game to flex into a Saturday game. Like.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Yes.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. All right. That's what was.

[Brandon]

We figured it out live on air.

[Jason Kelce]

Perfect. All right. Well. Yeah. Short week.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, good luck to the birds, baby. Let's take our talents to the rest of the NFL and talk about some Philip river. Just back, baby.

[Jason Kelce]

44 years old, a grandfather. Exactly 1800 days since the last start. You went 18 for 27 for 120 yards. One touchdown, one interception against the Seahawks. Interception was the last play of the game. He's playing great. I think everybody. So there are a lot of questions throughout the week. Everybody. A lot of people joking about it. A lot of people were like this shouldn't be happening. And I think he gave them their best chance. I mean that's the reality of it. They're playing the Seahawks, one of the best defenses in the NFL. This dude hasn't played for five years and he gave them an opportunity to win the game. They were winning the game when he took. When he left the field. So what is it? Leonard, Riley. Leonard. Was he going to give them their best shot? What was Riley they were going to do against the Seahawks?

[Travis Kelce]

We'll never know.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, I think we do though.

[Travis Kelce]

We can only go out there and play that well. I don't think we can only assume. A lot of people were assuming that Phil was going to go out there and get saw in half.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not Going to sit here and tell you I expected him to play well or not. I was like, you know, I just can't wait to see it. I don't know what's about to happen.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. And that's the excitement of the NFL. That's why we fucking love this goddamn league.

[Jason Kelce]

He gets that ball out, though. He did some shots, though. He took some shots.

[Travis Kelce]

You get. There's not a single game where a quarterback is going to take a shot.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, the one where the snap went high on him and he had to collect it. He got accordioned by about three Seahawks back there. Get up, Philip. Dude, that was a vicious one.

[Travis Kelce]

The old accordion tackle.

[Jason Kelce]

He literally pulled the cleats out of his trophy case. How about that? They're mounted up on the wall and he takes them up out.

[Travis Kelce]

He pulls out the old Johnny Unitises and just said, fuck it. I'm going to go lace these leather things up. That's hilarious. What a guy, man.

[Jason Kelce]

High school team was cheering him on during the game. Let's take a look at this video.

[Brandon]

But there is Phillips team, St. Michael Catholic in Fairhope, Alabama, having a watch party today.

[Jason Kelce]

And he had the best post game speech I've heard in a while. I thought it was outstanding. You know, hopefully my sons and those ballplayers that I'm in charge of at the school, they'll say like, hey, crap, that coach wasn't scared.

[Travis Kelce]

Nice, man.

[Jason Kelce]

There's more to the quote than what's. What's here, too. You know, he's talking about, you know, you come in and you don't know there's doubt in your head and having the courage to go out there and fight. Right? Because the easy thing is just sit at the house.

[Travis Kelce]

Right?

[Jason Kelce]

That's essentially what you're saying. Easy choice would be to, hey, I don't got to give it a shot. I'm perfectly fine over here. I thought facing doubt, facing criticism, going out there playing the way he did, and the message that sends to the young men that he's in charge of in that area as well as his own family. Incredible. And we forget a lot about what sports is about too often. And I think this is a great reminder by Philip and Rivers was always.

[Travis Kelce]

That guy, man for sure and courage through the world. You know, he's always been that guy that's played this game the right way, man. And no matter what the record was, no matter what the situation was. So I expected nothing less. But it's awesome to see him go out there and still be able to sling a Sling the old pig skin around, baby. Unfortunately, they didn't get the win, though.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, great job.

[Travis Kelce]

Seahawks are a great, good ass football team right now, though. I'm not gonna lie. I saw that in the preseason. I started seeing some guys flying around. Sammy D. Is out there making it, making it shake.

[Jason Kelce]

Jackson, Smith and Jigba.

[Travis Kelce]

Dude, obviously he's got you got you get a guy that can get open on demand, man, you still got to.

[Jason Kelce]

Give him the ball. Look at Justin Jefferson, though, what he did with Justin Jefferson the year before. Now, Justin numbers haven't been as great for him this year, even though he's still probably the same player. And Jigba balling out one common denominator. He's got Darnold throwing it to him.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go, baby. What other retired player should get back out there?

[Jason Kelce]

I was thinking about this.

[Travis Kelce]

Who else would be like, I mean, I know a guy still trying to prove his athleticism and trying to dunk.

[Jason Kelce]

Travis, I can't bend my elbow. I got a loose body. This is. I can't even touch my head right now because I got a loose body stuck in my elbow joint.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, go and get that cleaned out, Jason.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, that's. I'm trying to avoid surgery, Travis.

[Travis Kelce]

Then we got to get some rehab going. Are we not rehabbing?

[Jason Kelce]

There's not a rehab. There's just a piece of cartilage that's floating around in there and it's stuck in my joint. Oh, well, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Jason, you got to go and get that shit cleaned out.

[Jason Kelce]

I usually. I can find it and then like, push it out of the joint and that and it goes back to being fine. I can't do it right now. It's like stuck somewhere. I don't know if it's in the back or in the front, but it isn't leaving.

[Travis Kelce]

We'll go get an MRI and figure.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't know anyway, it's not going to be me.

[Travis Kelce]

What up?

[Jason Kelce]

Who else? It's got to be a position that's not that physical, right?

[Travis Kelce]

Dude, it's football.

[Jason Kelce]

Aaron Donald.

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, bring him back.

[Jason Kelce]

Bring AD Back.

[Travis Kelce]

He could do it. No doubt.

[Jason Kelce]

No doubt about it. Going to Super Bowl.

[Travis Kelce]

Run AD no doubt about it.

[Jason Kelce]

Who else could go do it? Who else could go do it? Feel like Fletcher Cox could still go in there and give some snaps if he wanted to. He's lost a lot of weight, though.

[Travis Kelce]

He is. He's down.

[Jason Kelce]

He's lost a lot of weight. He's doing good. He's doing good.

[Travis Kelce]

How about. How about I got big wit, big wit, big wit, big win.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean that guy's made to protect the passer. Yeah, he gets out of his bed being an NFL tackle.

[Travis Kelce]

I think we talked about it before. Shit. Fuck it. Joe Thomas could go out there play tight end right now. That dude is.

[Jason Kelce]

Yoked.

[Travis Kelce]

He is cut up. Little blocking tight end dude. 100% Gronk. Gronk could, I think Gronk could do it. He can give you, he can give you a bunch of games for sure.

[Jason Kelce]

What about any other quarterback that could. Peyton Manning come up out of there? I don't know what's the oldest a.

[Travis Kelce]

Quarterback could go the next stuff man.

[Jason Kelce]

Like Kurt Warner, get him back out there. You think you go out there and sling it a little bit. Kurt Marino on the sideline. What's Dan these days?

[Travis Kelce]

Dan. Dan's probably not even interested.

[Jason Kelce]

He looks good though. I'm just gonna be honest.

[Travis Kelce]

Glow to him. He's just, he's just the.

[Jason Kelce]

I think we need, we need to just see what's the oldest quarterback that could go out there and function an offense. 64.

[Travis Kelce]

Dude, I'll tell you what man. I went to, speaking of Kurt Warner, I went to Kurt Warner's, his foundation event out in Arizona one year.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

And he always has ex NFL players, quarterbacks, guys that could throw the ball. He had, he had me come in there and. And word the automatic. We're the automatic QBs. So basically you sign up for a team or you, you draft your quarterback in a 7 on 7 game. And I was playing quarterback with oh wow. A bunch of guys from. I think it was the military if I remember correctly. But either way, you know who was out there slinging it and looking like he was like large and in charge. Oh, Doug Flutie.

[Jason Kelce]

Doug Flutie. Dude. Doug.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Fluty still plays in like a men's like baseball league. He like surfs every day. Dude, I'm dead ass serious. Dude. Flutie is still like peak athleticism dude. And he's still wired to like lead the victory. I promise you. Dude.

[Jason Kelce]

I feel like we should just go on like an old like quarterbacks just giving it one, one game just to see if they can make it through. You already know a 44 year old can do it off the street, five years removed.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

What other quarterbacks are like in that age? Like trying to think of guys like.

[Travis Kelce]

Older than, older than 40, older than 44.

[Jason Kelce]

Younger than Damarino though.

[Travis Kelce]

Like I just saw Ben Roethlisberger like John Kitna. John Kitna Kidna was slinging around that. That same tournament like Drew Bledsoe. Drew could. I mean, yeah, of course. Could. Aikman Troy, he still looks good and in shape and. And I don't know. I don't know if he still got the lively arm. That's. See, that's the thing, man. Personally, I feel like Rivers was. He was around his high school team. He was around. You know, he's out there. He's around the game. He's still probably throwing the ball around, showing the quarterbacks the mech and how to get the ball out and stuff like that.

[Jason Kelce]

Like, he's got very unique mechanics. I don't think most guys are throwing the ball like he did.

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, it's still a fucking live arm, you know what I mean? He's. He's. He's. He's always. He's never, like, not had that. So I think. I think he's kind of stayed around the game enough to do it. And. I don't know. I mean, Dilford Dilfer was. He was down there and. Was it UAB coaching?

[Jason Kelce]

Gosh. Who was. I'm trying to think of, like, who was the Wave before Peyton? Joe Montana. Step out on the field for a second.

[Travis Kelce]

Joe Montana. Dudes, have you ever met Montana?

[Jason Kelce]

No.

[Travis Kelce]

Smooth cat. Yeah, dude. Oh, my gosh. I was like, dude, he had the aura of, like, a movie star, man. Like, he was just like, the coolest dude I've ever met in my life, man. It was so fun. 100. He could give you a game. Elway. Elway's still slinging it around. He's. He's been around the game. He's been over there in. In Denver, as in the. In the organization. All right.

[Jason Kelce]

See what he's got.

[Travis Kelce]

Touchy subject.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, we'll see. Let's move on here. We got some questions. Who's winning? The nfc. That's. That's a question, man. It's really going to be the Rams or Seahawks. I don't know what all these other teams are doing in this list, right?

[Travis Kelce]

Like, yeah, I think Rams take it. I think Rams take it. They got a little bit more of a veteran feel to him right now. Even though the Seahawks are playing fucking great, I'm pretty sure they. If it ended today, they would have it, right?

[Jason Kelce]

The Rams would.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, yeah. I don't see them now.

[Jason Kelce]

The Seahawks did. The last time they played them. They lost, barely. But Sam Darnold turned it over four times. So, like, you know, it'll be interesting to see who comes down out of that. But I just, I don't think it's going to be the Bears. I think the Bears are going to lose some of these games coming down the stretch. NFC north is going to beat the crap out of each other 49ers. I think what Kyle Shanahan's done and that staff this year with all the injuries has been incredible. But no, I think it's the Rams and Seahawks in that division this year. Packers just lost Parsons, which I think they're still a good team, but Parsons was the guy that, I mean they went out and paid. They knew they needed a piece like that to be, you know, a four down rush team and do all the interesting stuff in the back end that Halfley likes. And now they're going to potentially have to blitz a little bit more and mix it up to generate the pressure or Rashawn Gary is going to have to start playing like Mike Parsons, which he's had a great season, but a lot of that is because he's been out there with Michael Parsons. I mean, I think the Rams are the best team right now in the nfc. Eagles are right there. I think they're going to keep playing better and I do think they're going to be formidable in these playoffs. The Bears, Ben Johnson as these guys rolling. What do you think of the Bears?

[Travis Kelce]

I love watching them, man. There's some of those teams where you could just see. I don't know, man, I just. I love watching teams that have Eric B. Enemy as their coach.

[Jason Kelce]

Eric B. Enemy on the Bears?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, baby.

[Jason Kelce]

I didn't know that.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, he's a running back. Running back. He's over there, dog.

[Jason Kelce]

There's just something.

[Travis Kelce]

And then my guy, Joe Tuney, I just. There's so much familiarity over there just from those guys and obviously hanging out with the, the tight ends and they got a young guy in Coulson, they got a. They got a veteran and Colt.

[Jason Kelce]

I love watching the scheme. I mean it is so creative and I just feel like there, there are a few pieces away. It feels like. Yeah, but you never know. All right, who else? Packers.

[Travis Kelce]

I think that's about it. But we do get to see the Seahawks and Rams play this Thursday. So there'll be some implications on how that NFC and definitely the NFC west plays out here late in, late in December. Baby. Do we need to get back to dangerous halftime shows? Are halftime shows getting too.

[Jason Kelce]

I just want to get back to exciting halftime shows. It doesn't even have to be dangerous.

[Travis Kelce]

That kind of goes in with it. But I hear you.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, yeah, dangerous is inherently exciting, but there's other ways to make it exciting. Like, I just. If I have to see another dog catching a Frisbee, I'm gonna blow my brains out.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, no, I hear you.

[Jason Kelce]

Where's the creativity?

[Travis Kelce]

I respect the fun, but why is it at the NFL halftime show? That's like a. A college deal. It's a timeout thing.

[Jason Kelce]

If there was one of them, it'd be really cool. Or if the dog jumped over, like, a flaming bridge, I'd be all in. But it's just. It's not that exciting to me. Like, I can go to any park and watch some play catch with a Frisbee.

[Travis Kelce]

And his dog is. He gotta be a. Did you see the. The Broncos mutton bustin halftime show?

[Jason Kelce]

I did not. Let's see it. Let's check it out.

[Travis Kelce]

See it. Let's see what this is about.

[Jason Kelce]

Do you know what mutton is, Travis?

[Travis Kelce]

Nope.

[Jason Kelce]

Mutton is sheep meat.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, this is hilarious.

[Jason Kelce]

Wow. He's trying to ride it.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. See how far I can go.

[Jason Kelce]

See, this is what I'm talking about. This is new. This is creative. This is interesting. I've never seen a. Anybody ride a sheep. Yeah. See how long you can last. I'm all in on this. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

[Travis Kelce]

No, I'm out.

[Jason Kelce]

You don't think it's exciting to watch a little kid ride a sheep for as long as possible?

[Travis Kelce]

Not for the NFL halftime show, no.

[Jason Kelce]

I think it's good. Oh, man. I am completely. This is.

[Travis Kelce]

This is.

[Jason Kelce]

It's exactly the.

[Travis Kelce]

Dog frisbee thing.

[Jason Kelce]

The dog frisbee thing would be fine if I had never seen it. It's just that it's been done so much. Do something new. Do something creative. That's why. That's why this is interesting to me.

[Travis Kelce]

People are making a living. They're going around stadium to stadium selling this.

[Jason Kelce]

I know, and I'm saying it's. That's. That's what. That's why it's not good. This is what I'm talking about. You see this T?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Is the first NFL halftime show of all time. Boom. You signing up for that or what?

[Jason Kelce]

I'm not doing it. I'm too. I'm probably too heavy for it. The most impressive thing about this entire thing isn't just the loop. It's how quick he stops. Like he's stopping once he's already around it. How did he stop that so quick? Look at how excited they are. I love this.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. They probably had never seen him do it before. They were all like, well, he doesn't practice because it's very dangerous.

[Jason Kelce]

We'll see if he can nail it. Oh, he's missed it every time in practice.

[Travis Kelce]

He almost broke his neck. We gave him a neck brace this time. See how he's got the lean forward? He's probably leaned back one time and fudgeing off this.

[Jason Kelce]

So I just think we can be more creative with the halftime shows.

[Travis Kelce]

You did it, man. You fucking did it, dude. I knew you could do it.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm all in on this.

[Travis Kelce]

What is this, the seventies?

[Jason Kelce]

1970? You're right. So let's bring the creativity up on halftime shows. NFL.

[Travis Kelce]

All right, shout out to those mutton bus and kids, man. I don't like shitting on kids unless they deserve it, and they didn't deserve that. So I'm sorry.

[Jason Kelce]

But lamb. Lamb is meat from lambs. Right, baby Sheep?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Mutton is the meat of a fully grown sheep.

[Travis Kelce]

Why have we all never had mutton?

[Jason Kelce]

Well, in some countries, they do eat mutton. Some actually. Shepherd's pie, traditionally made with mutton. Now we use beef because there's a lot more cows. They probably still eat mutton a lot of places. I've had mutton before.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm pie man myself.

[Jason Kelce]

So tacos with Cam. Scatter Boop.

[Travis Kelce]

Jason, you got out of the house eating tacos in LA and then got called out by the taco king himself.

[Jason Kelce]

Who'd I get? Oh, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, I didn't get called out maybe.

[Jason Kelce]

No, we gave him a shout out because the way the taco was made out there in LA at Morisco's, Jalisco was. It was like. It was flat and sideways and deep fried, which I never had a shrimp taco that was deep fried. Oh, my God.

[Travis Kelce]

Come on back out to Kansas City. I'll take you to a spot.

[Jason Kelce]

Trust. I'm not. I'm not going to Kansas City for tacos.

[Travis Kelce]

Why?

[Jason Kelce]

Because it's the Midwest. I'm not LA for tacos. I'll go down into, like. Like, Miami for tacos. I'll go to Arizona for tacos. I'll go to Texas for Tex Mex.

[Travis Kelce]

I promise you, dude, you can find multiple authentic spots.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, I'll give it a chance. I'll give it a chance. Yeah, with a bunch of flour tortillas.

[Travis Kelce]

No, deep fried. Just the way you're thinking.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, I'll give it a try. I'll give it a try.

[Travis Kelce]

Shout out to Rudy's Rudy's. Yes.

[Jason Kelce]

That's how you know. I'm not going to a taco spot called Rudy's.

[Travis Kelce]

Rudy's Tanapa to Port. I forget what exactly it is.

[Jason Kelce]

You're not like, hey, this is Noah's Tacos. I'm not going to. Was tacos.

[Travis Kelce]

It's authentic. Okay, Jason. They give it to you on foil.

[Jason Kelce]

Just doesn't look that authentic to me.

[Brandon]

Dude, if it's a paper plate with some foil, that's good.

[Travis Kelce]

They bring out, like, gallon jugs of salsa that they make out in the back. No sticker on it. No, they make it housemade, but they bring it out in gallons.

[Jason Kelce]

Pull up Marisco's Jalisco.

[Travis Kelce]

Morisco's Jaliscos. Jalisco isn't even a fucking word.

[Brandon]

Word.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't even know if that's how you pronounce it. Jalisco.

[Travis Kelce]

All right, that sounds more like a word. It's a taco truck.

[Jason Kelce]

That's where you. Get out of here.

[Travis Kelce]

Get out of here.

[Jason Kelce]

You're out of your.

[Travis Kelce]

Get this.

[Jason Kelce]

You are.

[Travis Kelce]

Get this out of my face.

[Jason Kelce]

There's no chance.

[Travis Kelce]

Street meat. You brought your thing. Street meats. No, it's not.

[Jason Kelce]

Yes, it is. No, it's not.

[Travis Kelce]

It is not where they come from.

[Jason Kelce]

Look up where tacos come from.

[Brandon]

You want me to Google where tacos come from.

[Jason Kelce]

Where tacos.

[Brandon]

Where do tacos come from?

[Travis Kelce]

Ok, this is ridiculous. I can't believe you're trying to compete with this thing.

[Jason Kelce]

US Introduction to Tacos. Mexican immigrants brought tacos to the US where they were initially seen as street food.

[Brandon]

According to who? Name your source.

[Jason Kelce]

According to the AI Google. Get the out of here. I'm just saying, like, what are we talking about? Like, tacos are street. Like, it's a dish to be on the go. It's a fully encapsulated thing.

[Brandon]

The plate.

[Jason Kelce]

It's not supposed to be in a strip mall in Kansas City.

[Brandon]

I think you can find tacos anywhere.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm an optimist.

[Brandon]

You definitely have an optimist.

[Jason Kelce]

I will try these tacos. I just. I. I think that I. I will be beyond shocked if they.

[Travis Kelce]

We all. We all know what that means, Jason. We all know what that means. I'll try them.

[Jason Kelce]

I'll try.

[Travis Kelce]

We already know. You get it.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, but they're not exactly what I.

[Travis Kelce]

Think tacos should be.

[Jason Kelce]

I will give them an honest assessment.

[Travis Kelce]

Already know what your assessment's gonna be.

[Jason Kelce]

If they're legit, then it'll never be honest.

[Travis Kelce]

It'll never be honest.

[Jason Kelce]

100.

[Travis Kelce]

It'll never be honest. Unless it comes from a taco truck. Tijuana. You're not gonna like them.

[Jason Kelce]

No, I'd love tons of trucks. And tacos. I love.

[Brandon]

So we'll do that at some point in the off season or soon. Who knows?

[Jason Kelce]

We'll figure out.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, I'm not touching a single thing out of a taco truck.

[Jason Kelce]

What about the burger joint? The burger truck? Franking it up. Up Kansas City fan. That was also in that post. That's my favorite LA burger.

[Brandon]

What? That's your favorite LA burger? You're wrong. I'll fight you.

[Travis Kelce]

No, because burgers are street meat. They were brought here by the French to sell on the streets of New York.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, thanks for the shout out, Cam. We're gonna keep trying to eat tacos sideways without spilling them all over my lap. If I can dominate the taco. Thank you to our partner, Roca.

[Travis Kelce]

Hey now. Now that the temps are dropping and the snow's starting to fall, Roka just dropped brand new snow goggles.

[Jason Kelce]

How about that? That's pretty awesome. Yeah, man. These things are built for tough weather. They're perfect for skiing, snowboarding, or ripping around on a snowmobile.

[Travis Kelce]

Whether you're flying down the slopes or hitting the backcountry, you want goggles that can keep up and actually let you see what's coming.

[Jason Kelce]

If you haven't tried Roka before, you're in luck. Their home tryout program is back, baby.

[Travis Kelce]

Pick out a few frames, test them for five days in your real world and run some errands. Hit the gym, whatever you do every day and need the glasses for. And then when you're done, get a $30 gift card towards your favorite pair.

[Jason Kelce]

That's legit. Try them out. Move around. See what fits your life, not just your face.

[Travis Kelce]

Roka's all about performance. That looks good. They've got sunglasses, prescription glasses, readers, and their wind down collection to help you sleep better too.

[Jason Kelce]

One pair that can handle your whole day. Premium, lightweight and built to perform. If you care about your gear and don't want eyewear, it's slowing you down. Check out Roka.

[Travis Kelce]

Trusted by athletes, worn by people who give a about their gear. Hit ROKA UP. That's roka.com and use the code New Heights for 20 off your order.

[Jason Kelce]

That's R-O-K-A.com code New Heights for 20 off.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, tell me what to read because I can't make decisions.

[Travis Kelce]

The Audible editors really put in some good work curating this list.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[James Austin Johnson]

Mom and dad. Mom and Mom. Dad and dad. Whatever. Parents. Are you about to spend five hours in the car with your beloved kids this holiday season? Driving old granny's house? I'm set. The scene I'm picturing screaming, fighting back to back hours of the K Pop Demon Hunter soundtrack on repeat. Well, when your ears start to bleed, I have the perfect thing to keep you from rolling out of that moving vehicle. Something for the whole family. He's filled with laughs. He's filled with rage. The OG Green Gronk. Give it up for me, James Austin Johnson as the Grinch. And like any insufferable influencer these days, I'm bringing my crew of lesser talented friends along for the ride. With a list guests like Gronk, Mark Hamill, and the Jonas Brothers, whoever they are. There's a little bit of something for everyone. Listen to Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jason Kelce]

Alrighty, before we hand out some stamps, we'd like to give a big shout out to our partners. DraftKings pick six. Yeah. We're nearing the end of the regular season and every team is fighting to earn their spot. We've got some big matchups this week. Let's talk about some of them. Patriots, Ravens, Eagles, Commanders, Ram, Seahawks, Packers, Bears, Bucks, Panthers, Jags, Broncos. Who are we most excited for? Boys.

[Brandon]

Ooh. Jake, go first. I know you've rehearsed this.

[Jake]

You want me to go first? I did not rehearse this.

[Brandon]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Jake]

These are completely off the cuff takes, but I have two thoughts. I think so right away.

[Jason Kelce]

You have two thoughts. Two thoughts.

[Jake]

Right? Right away. Off the cuff. After hearing that list of game. Two thoughts. First is Bucks Panthers. Like, I thought that division would have been decided by now. They've got two games against each other in the next, like three weeks. They do, but Whoever wins this one, I think is going to have the leg up going obviously into the repeat matchup. So Bucks, Panthers to decide the division. That's my number one game. The second game. Game, bit of a wild card, but Patriots, Ravens for a couple reasons. One, I would be very shocked if the Ravens ended up out of the playoffs. And I think if they don't win this game, they very well could be left out of the dance.

[Jason Kelce]

Wild. Yeah.

[Jake]

The other thing too is just again, I relate everything back to being a Jets fan. I would love for the Patriots to not get the number one overall seed. So I'm really, really, really pulling for the Ravens.

[Brandon]

Are you shocked to see a rebuild take less than 25 years?

[Jake]

I didn't know that's not supposed to be possible.

[Brandon]

This like, you can just actually put together a good team pretty quick. That's not really that hard.

[Jason Kelce]

Well functioning organization, good coach and draft.

[Brandon]

Good quarterback apparently. Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to say, honestly, the. The game I'm most excited for is Thursday. Rams, Seahawks. I feel like there's just that number one seeds up for grabs and like division opponents on a short week is pretty wild to me. But I'm going to watch Niners, Colts. I'm going to watch whatever Philip Rivers does. I've never been more excited for a player. That's a phenomenal storyline this year.

[Jason Kelce]

No doubt.

[Brandon]

He only chose to come back against the best defenses for some reason. So I'm pumped for my boy. He did right.

[Jason Kelce]

He's like, Seahawks, Niners, Niners are not the best defense.

[Brandon]

They're up there. They're not bad. They're okay. Jason Kelce with some takes there.

[Jake]

There was also that rumor that had had the Niners beaten the Eagles the year that Brock Purdy's arm, like, got hurt in the NFC Championship, that Shanahan was going to call Philip Rivers to have him play the Super Bowl.

[Jason Kelce]

Wow.

[Jake]

I want to see like Shanahan's mind against Rivers mind. That'll be a fun matchup.

[Jason Kelce]

Ooh. Well, well done, boys.

[Brandon]

There you go.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm definitely Rams, Seahawks, Packers, Bears.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

None of these other games are that intriguing to me. Bucks, Panthers is super important to see who makes it out of that division. I just. They both are. I don't think they're going to be.

[Brandon]

Jack. Jack's Broncos could have some juice because that's. I mean, I, I still just question the Broncos and I want to see if the Jags are it against that defense.

[Jason Kelce]

All of these games are actually awesome. I'm going to take that back. They're all awesome.

[Jake]

There you go.

[Jason Kelce]

But no Ram. Ram. Seahawks. Very much interested in watching that on a Thursday. Packers, Bears, Bucks, Panthers.

[Brandon]

It matters.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm such a huge fan of Baker and Todd Bowles, but they just haven't played great. A lot of that's from injuries, but yeah, it's an important game.

[Brandon]

Big weekend.

[Jason Kelce]

Great weekend.

[Brandon]

It's a good weekend.

[Jason Kelce]

There's been a lot of weeks of pretty crappy games. This is a outstanding, loaded week.

[Jake]

Great weekend of football.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, Ian, if you want to make these must watch games even more exciting, you got to play DraftKings pick 6. Draft 6 is DraftKings newest fantasy pickup game and it's available in most states like California, Texas and Georg. Let's go.

[Brandon]

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[Jake]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Some stamps of the week. Stamp of the week is brought to you by Amazon. This cow who didn't fall for the hard count. What's that? Hey, here we go.

[Travis Kelce]

Here we go.

[James Austin Johnson]

Wow.

[Travis Kelce]

Daddy.

[Jason Kelce]

What is hot? Disciplined cow. Hey, hey. Turbo. Turbo. Hey, Can't. Can't.

[Brandon]

Can.

[Travis Kelce]

Wow.

[Jason Kelce]

It's a good impersonation. All right. Oh, look at Dion Dawkins. Let me see this clip. I just love the picture. When you just let your belly hang on them.

[Travis Kelce]

It's a good feeling because you can't hold them down. Once you're on top of them. You just got to keep your.

[Jason Kelce]

That's how you avoid a holding penalty, too.

[Travis Kelce]

You. Because if you hold it.

[Jason Kelce]

This is nothing.

[Travis Kelce]

This is just body weight. This is just body weight.

[Jason Kelce]

He's falling on himself. On himself.

[Travis Kelce]

Your honor dog is hilarious.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm gonna give it to Di dog. It's for the heads up move. I love this.

[Travis Kelce]

God.

[Jason Kelce]

Well done, Dion.

[Travis Kelce]

Well done. Shout out to Dion, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Just pause it right there. Just.

[Travis Kelce]

He literally spun on him. Dude, that's hilarious.

[Jason Kelce]

I'll get my stamp to Dion Dawkins. I love stuff like that. I'm in. All right, Trav, who you got?

[Travis Kelce]

I'm going Philip Rivers.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, fair enough.

[Travis Kelce]

Our guy Phil, man, going out there and showing everybody I still got it. Even at 44, I'll torture killed it.

[Jason Kelce]

Way to go. All right, that does it for stamp of the week, brought to you by Amazon. That does it for our show. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights and the wonder react over every kitchen podcast. Reminder, Home Alone Film Club this Friday. Paul Rudd Monday and holiday spectacular with Kylie next Wednesday. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining 1 Replus in the wonder app or on Apple podcasts.

[Travis Kelce]

Once again, New Heights, a wonder show brought to you by Allstate. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights show with one square fun clips throughout the week and thank you to our new Heights production team. Everybody involved with New Heights. We love you guys for making this a fun gig and an easier gig for me and Jason to just show up and be ourselves. Thanks again to those 92 percenters for tuning in. We'll see you guys Monday with Paul Rudd.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, this Friday.

[Travis Kelce]

This Friday with Kylie Kelsey Film club.

[Jason Kelce]

Jesus Christ.

[Brandon]

Just turn your alerts on. Just subscribe. Just subscribe. Turn alerts on.

[Travis Kelce]

See what we got, boys.

[Jason Kelce]

How old is this? What? What era?

[Travis Kelce]

I have no idea. I just bought these offline. I feel like they're kind of new because I've never seen a pack like this ever in my life.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, most of the older packs, there's not as much variety.

[Brandon]

Welcome to New Heights. This is what we're doing this week.

[Jason Kelce]

Season's over. Time to count Cards. Wait. Time out. This is legitimately a Pokemon. So you weren't around. You? Oh, you bought poke? You weren't a big Pokemon fan? I was the Pokemon F, bro.

[Travis Kelce]

I would out Pokemon you in a Pokemon minute.

[Jason Kelce]

You don't even know how to play.

[Brandon]

You ought to actually play.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, of course he doesn't.

[Jason Kelce]

That's what. That's what the cards were for.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I just had them in a binder. I didn't know how to actually play.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, look, Jason. Belly bolt.

[Jason Kelce]

That's a new one. I'm not familiar with that yet. If it's not one of the original 151, I don't. I'm so.

[Brandon]

It's not in red or blue. I don't. I don't. It's not canon to me. I'm sorry for whatever nerd that pisses off.

[Jason Kelce]

I know that one kind of.

[Travis Kelce]

Kind of looks familiar. Clefable. Yeah, that's nice.

[Jason Kelce]

Clefable.

[Brandon]

Yeah, put that. A little sleeve.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, sleeve that one up.

[Brandon]

Sleeve that one up. Oh, hold on, wait. I have. I have our card segment. It's sleeve it or leave it.

[Travis Kelce]

Sleeve it or leave it.

[Jason Kelce]

Great job, Brandon.

[Travis Kelce]

Metacham looks like she's got the BBL going. Nice. Well, thank you guys for watching Sleep.

[James Austin Johnson]

It or Leave you guys.

[Brandon]

Next week, it's our first edition of Sleep or Leave it and Fucking around on the Internet.