Chiefs Take a Step Back, Jason Does Disney, Wild NFL Trades, World Series Haters and Midseason Meme Awards | EP 163

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce – Episode 163

Chiefs Take a Step Back, Jason Does Disney, Wild NFL Trades, World Series Haters and Midseason Meme Awards
Release Date: November 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, NFL brothers Jason and Travis Kelce dive into the heart of the NFL season. They break down the Chiefs' recent struggles and the Bills’ big win, recap notable NFL trades at the deadline, give out their own meme-inspired midseason awards, and, as always, exchange plenty of brotherly jabs. Jason shares stories from his Disney World family trip—complete with parenting chaos and cultural debates—while the guys riff on everything from rampant tush pushes to the World Series, and even answer funny fan voicemails about pets. The conversation is unfiltered, sports-savvy, and full of trademark Kelce humor.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Jason’s Disney Adventure (02:34–11:15)

• Jason is in Orlando for a Disney trip with his family and recounts the joy and chaos of vacationing with young kids.
  • Jason is delighted by his daughters' reactions to Disney characters, sharing that "Wyatt was just staring at Ariel’s fin, completely mesmerized" (07:00).
  • Discusses the "ride family drama": his wife Kylie and her family are not ride enthusiasts, which rubs off on the kids, leading to hilarious parenting negotiations (06:43–08:25).
  • Shares the infamous "waffle standoff" with his daughter:
    "She wants a whole waffle... I'm putting my foot down. You ain't getting another free waffle." – Jason (08:50)
  • Jack Sparrow (the character actor) saves the morning with perfect, in-character distraction, and later, beignets smooth things over (09:41–10:10).
  • Alcohol at Disney: Jason outlines liquid policies at different parks ("Epcot is basically the most cultured place on the planet." – 10:16), and why Magic Kingdom is right to limit booze:
    "We don’t need drunk dads at Magic Kingdom. This is a place of children, Sir." – Jason (11:10)

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2. Chiefs vs Bills Recap & Chiefs Midseason State (11:19–24:20)

• Travis on the Chiefs’ struggles:
  The Chiefs drop to 5–4 after losing to the Bills; Travis is blunt about the frustration:

  "Five and four, a little over .500 right now, out of the playoffs if they started... we gotta get this going, man." – Travis (11:36)

• Critical moments: Both discuss missed opportunities, especially the failed "tush push" before halftime:

  "You can’t go into halftime only getting three points because you don’t fucking have a tush push in the goddamn play." – Jason (13:13)

• Chiefs’ offensive woes: poor short-yardage execution, pressure on Mahomes, recurring third-and-longs.

  • Buffalo’s defensive game plan gets praise, with Jason noting how pressure created by Joey Bosa and creative scheming made things tough on KC (15:08).
  • Travis recounts a tough hit from Cole Bishop:

    "It knocked the wind out of me. I got kind of sandwiched in there." – Travis (17:17)

  • Concussion protocol side tangent, with both joking about the baseline memory test ("Ace that motherfucker..." – Jason, 18:46)

• Looking ahead:
  Travis is focused on turning things around, noting that the team needs to "get back to playing passionate Chiefs football, dying for each other out there." (19:42)

• On home field advantage:

  "At this point, it’s gotta be one week at a time. I’m thinking about how the fuck are we going to beat the Denver Broncos." – Travis (21:03)

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3. Tush Push Double Standards & NFL Trends (21:36–24:19)

• Jason vents about "tush push" hypocrisy:

  "Every time I watch the Eagles do a tush push, it’s a meltdown on social media... I watch the Bills do it, everybody’s happy... why is it not hard to officiate for the other 31 teams?" – Jason (22:16)

• Travis on the Eagles’ critics:

  "I feel like the Eagles just, they get away with more... everyone else kind of just plays a fair play." – Travis (22:24)

• Jason’s advice:

  "It’s a cheat code. Do it while they let you." (23:16)

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4. Eagles’ Bye Week and NFC East Rundown (27:27–33:16)

• All major NFC East rivals lose during the Eagles’ bye week (“They won a week without playing a week.” – Jason, 27:42), giving Philly a 3-game lead.
• The brothers roast the division’s defenses:

  "The NFC East might have three of the worst four or five defenses in the NFL." – Jason (28:32)

• Big Eagles trade moves:
  • Acquisitions: Michael Carter (Jets CB), Jaire Alexander (Ravens, formerly Packers), Jalen Phillips (Dolphins edge)
  • Jason’s take: “Howie might have been the only person with a busier phone than Adam Schefter this weekend.” (32:09)
  • Travis emphasizes:

    "That’s what you want around the trade deadline... guys that are experienced, that... don’t let the moment get to them." (31:44)

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5. NFL Midseason Meme Awards (33:18–41:23)

• Categories (All based off memes):
  • IOU an Apology Award (player/team not talked about enough):
    • Travis: “Seattle up there in the Northwest, they just don’t get talked about enough... Sam Darnold is slinging it.” (34:19)
    • Jason agrees: “I think everybody kind of owes Darnold an apology.” (36:08)
  • Unk Still Got It Award (veteran balling out):
    • Jason: “It’s got to be Flacco, right? Nobody expected him to go out there and throw for 470 on a team he’s only been on for, like, two weeks.” (37:03)
  • Call the Ambulance, But Not for Me (team getting healthy at the right time):
    • Jason: “Tampa Bay... Baker is one of the best QBs right now.” (38:16)
  • 6–7 Award (player/team who “gets the kids going” for no clear reason):
    • Travis: “It’s gotta be Jackson Dart, right?” (39:04)
    • Jason: “Broncos are another good choice. Their defense is lights out; Bo Nix only good when the team’s losing, for some reason.” (39:35)
• Both laugh about being out of the loop on some meme references.

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6. Stamp of the Week (46:17–51:02)

• Nominees:
  • The Owl attacking Brian Schottenheimer (‘Not photoshop!’)
  • Baseball/World Series tie-in – Jason complains: “Who cares about a Canadian baseball team and a team that just spends more money?... That’s why baseball sucks, World Series is just ‘buying’ championships.” (47:42)
  • Oklahoma kicker’s short shorts
  • 68-yard field goal by Cam Little (NFL record) – Jason: “Routinely known to shit on kickers, but I’ll give it to someone who set a record.” (50:12)
  • Brock Bowers, Georgia TE – Travis: “He comes back and man alive, two great TD grabs... guy can fucking roll.” (50:11)
• Jason’s stamp: Kicker Cam Little for the record.
• Travis’s stamp: Brock Bowers, “Tight ends need love!” (50:11)

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7. Heights Hotline: Pet Parent Edition (51:02–59:05)

• Caller Q: Best time to get a puppy?
  • Jason: "Not a good time when you’re having kids—trying to potty train two things is chaos." (51:49)
  • Travis: "Best time is whenever you're up for switching your routine... it's gonna shake up your life no matter when." (52:42)
• Q: Pets the Kelce parents wouldn't allow?
  • No exotic pets growing up. Travis wanted a ferret, but after seeing a friend's ferret in college, was glad he never got one ("It is the worst.").
  • Jason mentions wanting a hamster, possibly a rabbit at one point.
  • Exotic pets stay exotic! “Dogs and cats are the big ones.” – Jason (57:26)
• Q: Naming a new male kitten to pair with ‘Franklin’?
  • Both go with Arthur (“Franklin and Arthur. Frank and Artie.” – 58:39)
  • Jason: “We like people names for pets.” (59:05)

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8. Closing Disney/Pixar Debate (60:07–61:12)

• Jason and Travis passionately debate Robin Williams’ Genie in Aladdin (“Nobody’s done a better voice acting role—ever.” – Jason, 60:07)
• Brief mentions of Coco (“...Not really for kids, but if you're an adult, you're in tears at the end.” – Jason, 61:08)
• Jason dislikes modern Disney for being overly direct with messaging compared to older films.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "You can’t go into halftime only getting three points because you don’t fucking have a tush push in the goddamn play."
  – Jason Kelsey (13:13)
• "At this point, it’s gotta be one week at a time. I’m thinking about how the fuck are we going to beat the Denver Broncos."
  – Travis Kelsey (21:03)
• "We don’t need drunk dads at Magic Kingdom. This is a place of children, Sir."
  – Jason Kelsey (11:10)
• "Every time I watch the Eagles do a tush push, it’s a meltdown on social media... Bills do it, everybody’s happy."
  – Jason Kelsey (22:16)
• "Five and four, a little over .500 right now, out of the playoffs if they started... we gotta get this going, man."
  – Travis Kelsey (11:36)
• (On a pet for a kid):
  "I would adopt like an old bloodhound... just can’t even move and just sits on the porch."
  – Jason Kelsey (53:46)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Jason’s Disney World Adventure: 02:34–11:15
• Chiefs/Bills Game & State of Chiefs: 11:19–24:20
• Tush Push Debate: 21:36–24:19
• NFC East Recap & Eagles Trades: 27:27–33:16
• Meme-inspired NFL Awards: 33:18–41:23
• Stamp of the Week: 46:17–51:02
• Heights Hotline (Pet Parent Questions): 51:02–59:05
• Disney Closing Debate: 60:06–61:12

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Summary

This episode has the classic New Heights blend of football analysis, brotherly roasts, and real-life detours. Jason’s hilarious dad tales from Disney World lighten the mood before the brothers dissect NFL drama: the Chiefs’ flat start, the Bills’ win, Eagles’ trade flurry, trolls over tush pushes, and defective NFC East defenses. Their meme-based NFL awards provide thoughtful—and irreverent—takes on breakout players and storylines. The Heights Hotline Pet Parent edition is full of laugh-out-loud pet banter and offbeat wisdom. Add in a passionate Disney debate, and you get another episode full of insight, laughs, and brotherly chemistry. Great for fans of the NFL or just fans of fun.

Transcript

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Ooh, a little meat. The NFL season is in full swing, and you know what that means. Time to eat meat.

[Travis Kelsey]

Millions of fans are turning their homes into game day headquarters every weekend.

[Jason Kelsey]

Gosh. And whether you're hosting a watch party at home or tailgating before a big game, you gotta feed the crowd.

[Travis Kelsey]

You gotta feed the crowd. That's where Boar's Head comes in the clutch.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, any of them. I don't. I did anything that combines crackers, meat, cheese, and mustard. It doesn't matter what kind it is. You got pepper jack, you got provolone, you got cheddar, you got beer cheese, you got salami, you got. You got kielbasa.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Don't be all artsy with me. Ritz crackers. Maybe you could do some of those, like, whole grain thick boys that are round. Those are kind of nice too. If you want to be kind of different, you go with like a wheat thin. If you really want to elevate your game day spread and score big with your entire home gating, that's tailgating at home. Visit your local boards head deli. They'll hook you up with a ready made platter.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ooh.

[Jason Kelsey]

Or you can build on your own.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

It's just a great name, too.

[Travis Kelsey]

Over 100. Yeah. You know what you're getting?

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Well, Palais.

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[Travis Kelsey]

Who is your favorite Disney character, Jason? Is it Goofy?

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, definitely Goofy growing up, fell for Pluto's charm a little bit.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who's Pluto again?

[Jason Kelsey]

Pluto is the dog. Which. Goofy's a dog as well. But Pluto's like the one that's actually a dog. Like, Goofy's a dog, but maneuvers and talks like a human, albeit a kind of like Craig Parmenter. Ish. Human. Like not. It's got a little bit of goofiness to him.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Kelsey]

Exactly what I mean. Pluto is more of just like a dog dog. Pluto doesn't talk. Goofy is a dog. Maneuvers like a dog. Goofy does talk, but is also a dog. Maneuvers like a human. Donald Duck's a good solid one.

[Travis Kelsey]

Despicable.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, you're thinking a Daffy Duck.

[Travis Kelsey]

What's the difference?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, Daffy Duck is Warner Brothers, which is not Disney owned property. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

No. Never mind then. Welcome back to New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of Wonder show brought to you by audible. We are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of University of Cincinnati. And dang. Nam it the. Yeah, the Utah Utes got us, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought we had a good. Get it going. We got.

[Travis Kelsey]

Couldn't get it going.

[Jason Kelsey]

God damn it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, defense could stop, man. I'll tell you what, man, when their offense gets rolling, man, I gotta go all the way west coast. Play it like midnight, east coast time. Yeah, it was. It was a tough run, but shout out to Utah and shout out to McAfee and. And ESPN college game day, man, that was a. That was a fun one. McAfee and the gang, a lot of them gave us a shout out over here on New Heights.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's hear this. I want to hear what this is. I'd like to reiterate some of your points. Like, hey, you got really good wood too. You what I mean, but the greatest wood comes from New Heights, and that's a Cincinnati through and through. He's like a walking Jason Kelsey. You talk about the absolute dogs from Ohio. How does he do it?

[Travis Kelsey]

It's off the cuff, too. I. It's unbelievable.

[Jason Kelsey]

It has to be. They don't script any of this stuff. I don't. It's just amazing.

[Travis Kelsey]

He can just go, dude, he's the best, man. He's the best. The guy's got crazy talent, man, but we're moving on, baby. Good game, Utes. Arizona, you're up next, baby. Let's go, cats. Get back on the. Get back on the wind train, baby. Subscribe on YouTube One plus wherever you get your PODC and follow the show on all social media at new hide show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we got.

[Jason Kelsey]

Coming up, 92 percenters, we got an amazing episode lined up for you today. We're going to get into a little recap of the Chiefs Bills game, unfortunately for Travis. And then we're also going to get into a little bit of trade deadline moves. We're midpoint now. The NFL maybe hand out some awards that mean nothing to anybody other than people that watch this show. United 2 percenters, this is all for you guys. And then we're going to check in on the heights hotline. We've been having a lot of guests, which is always fun and interesting to talk to people who have achieved great success in this world. Far, far outreaching things that I could ever do. Maybe not, Travis, but we're going to listen to some of your voicemails and answer those. And to be honest, that's some of my favorite things we do on the show. So before we get into that, though, we're going to get into a little bit of that new news.

[Travis Kelsey]

New news. All right, now, let's get it out of the way. Jason, you're out of the house today. You're not in Philadelphia.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is correct.

[Travis Kelsey]

Pennsylvania. You are.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm in Orlando. I'm. I'm down by our mother. Travis.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. You're in Floridia, Florida.

[Jason Kelsey]

Florida. Is that the right? Is that the right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. No, it's great. No invite for the rest of us. Thanks, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, Travis, it's difficult for me to maneuver around Disney World. I could not imagine you trying to do this right now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, I just put on a Goofy mask and keep it moving.

[Jason Kelsey]

They don't. I don't think they have masks. They have Goofy hats.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're not allowed to wear masks.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I think since COVID I think anything flies with the masks. I did go masked one time to a Phillies game so I could sit in the outfield so I didn't have to sit in a box.

[Travis Kelsey]

How'd that go?

[Jason Kelsey]

Didn't last long. I got picked out real quick.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, you did. Something about the face. It's like the shape of the face. You could just do it like a shadow of your face, and people would be like, jason, is that a Japanese.

[Jason Kelsey]

Maple Walker Miles, I think I've seen that, though.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's lovely, man. What's been the most exciting so far?

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, seeing the Girls react to all the characters because they're still young. And Wyatt's starting to get old enough where you can see she's starting to ask questions. Or, like, she meets Ariel. She can't wait to meet Ariel. And the entire time, she's just staring at Ariel's finish. She's kind of like. Like, she. In her head, I think she knows. And, like, she's petting Pluto, and she's like, that doesn't feel like a dog. And then going on the ride. Any ride I can talk the girls into going on, which is very hard. Here's what's hard. Kylie's family is not ride people. Kylie's not a ride person. So the girls, I think, are. That rubs off on them a little bit. They're a little bit more skittish because Mom's not a ride person. So whenever I'm trying to talk him into it, and then I'm an idiot. So I talked them into a room, and then it's like, immediately, like, regret, right? You get on the teapots, and the teapots spin. And I'm like, you want to go in the teapot thing? No, no, no. And I was like. And she was like, I don't like that it spins. I was like, we won't spin. Dad will make sure that it doesn't spin. And in my head, of course, I'm like, she'll be going a little bit, then she'll realize she's having fun. Because that was Big Ed. That was our Big Ed's method of everything.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Chalky into doing it. Lie to you that you're not going to do it, then start doing. Then you're like, you know what? Actually, dad, this is a good idea. I like what you're doing here. Doesn't work on my kids. My kids immediately know. I start spinning that thing, and Wyatt starts losing her fucking mind. And then I'm trying to just hold it, and she's still not having fun. But now she was. She actually liked the teacups. Teacups. She liked any of the stuff where you're just like, basically, like a moving story, whether you're like Peter Pan or, what is it, A Small World?

[Travis Kelsey]

They could do that all day.

[Jason Kelsey]

And then every once in a while, dad will sneak off and do Space Mountain. We did tr. I missed Animal Kingdom yesterday because I was at Monday Night Football, so unfortunately, didn't get to see that. I did get to eat a turkey leg while watching the parade go by. And I was just baby in this arm turkey leg. In this arm waving to the creatures with my turkey leg, I felt like a Neanderthal. Like, in the most glorious fashion. So, yeah, we've been having a blast. Kids are just complete chaos. I'm in a full fight with Wyatt over a waffle. Ruins about 30 minutes of our entire day because she wants a whole waffle. And I'm trying to explain to her that there's only four waffles and there's like 15 people. So just take a piece of the waffle. And she's like getting furious. And I'm like, listen, I am not. I'm putting my foot down on this. You ain't getting another free waffle. I'm not giving you a whole waffle. And then Kyle is like, just give her the waffle. What are you doing? I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not raising some spoiled little rotten child. She's getting hurt. She's sharing. Kylie actually had my back, so it was good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ah, way to team up, Kai.

[Jason Kelsey]

And she cried. She had a full meltdown. Thankfully.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thankfully, Snow White came in with a.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, no, no, it wasn't Snow White. You know who came in and saved the day? Jack Sparrow. Jack Sparrow came by, saved the day. Whoever was being Jack Sparrow was like.

[Travis Kelsey]

The best version of Jack Sparrow in the morning too.

[Jason Kelsey]

He nailed it. Absolutely killed it. And then from there, Wyatt was in a better mood. And then she found out that we were getting beignets from Princess Tiana's area. And it's like, but we're going to share the beignets, right? And she's like, yes, I'll share the beignets. So I'm like, you know what? We're back. We're back.

[Travis Kelsey]

You got some bougie ass kids, man. Beignets, Travis, it's Disney World.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're experiencing culture. If you've been to Epcot, it's basically the most cultured place on the planet.

[Travis Kelsey]

I was gonna say it's like going around the world. Is there alcohol served?

[Jason Kelsey]

Not at Magic Kingdom, which is where we've been the last couple of days. Animal Kingdom does have. And I found this out from Dan Orlovsky. Shout out to Dan Orlovsky. The Dawa bar. The Jungle Juice is very good in Animal Kingdom. If you're an alcoholic beverage drinker, Epcot is your place. Tons of it. I think we're going today. Can't wait to partake. Magic Kingdom, I think you gotta go to, like an actual restaurant, sit down restaurant in the park to get an alcoholic beverage, which I Think is probably right. Magic Kingdom doesn't need alcohol being served. There's. This is like the land of, like, children creatures all over the place. We don't need drunk dads at Magic Kingdom. Epcot. We can kind of finagle it. You can figure it.

[Travis Kelsey]

We don't need adjacent versus don't get.

[Jason Kelsey]

Too drunk at Epco.

[Travis Kelsey]

You can get.

[Jason Kelsey]

You can get buzzed. We don't need buzz people walking around Magic Kingdom. This is a place of children, sir.

[Travis Kelsey]

That makes sense. Yeah. All right, well, that wraps it up for new news. Let's move on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Alrighty. Bold topics to wrap up Week 9 in the NFL. Let's start with the one you can't wait to talk about. Trav. Chiefs 21, bills 28. All right, Trav.

[Travis Kelsey]

Four losses, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

What. What are we thinking? What are the initial thoughts from the game? Where are we at?

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, obviously it's. It's the bye week, so I'm kind of looking at everything like I've taken a step back and kind of looked at the whole scheme of things and it's. Yeah, it's frustrating, man. I mean, five and four, a little over.500 right now out of the playoffs, if the playoffs started right now. We gotta get this going, man. And the sea.

[Jason Kelsey]

The.

[Travis Kelsey]

The schedule doesn't get much easier. Our next three opponents are absolutely on fire. Two in which are the Broncos, who we have coming up after the buy, and then the Colts after that. So we're. We gotta get things rolling, man. And we got banged up in on the offensive line and this and that, but at the same time, man, we got the players that we need, man. Even if it's the next man, next man up mentality, we still got the guys that get the job done, man. We just have to keep figuring it out. This one was a tough one, though, man. Going up to Buffalo is not an easy thing, man. That. That stadium was rocking. That place was electric. Shout out to all the Bills mafia that was talking all the. In the world. I love it. And it's just, you know, it's. It's a. It's a sacred place to play a football game, man. And I cherish every game that I get an opportunity to go up there, but shit sucks when you. When you. When you don't come away with a victory out there because they let you have it, man. And it's. It's frustrating. It's frustrating. Especially when you think that, you know, it's. You put it on yourself. I. I'm. I'm looking at this score right here, 21, 28. And if I find a way to get my head and hands around on the, on the past that Pat threw me in the end zone right before half. Yeah, I feel like we have a, we have a better chance at getting a field goal there late instead of a touchdown.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was going to be a tough catch. I hear you. Here's the reality. That play before half, we got to be able to tush push that thing in. They got two tush. We need to get the tush pushed down and we need Noah Gray or somebody over there to get the tush push down. That's how they scored every time they got to the one yard line. Josh Allen Tush push the Philadelphia Eagles. That's how we score every time we get to the one yard line. You can't go into halftime only getting three points because you don't fucking got a tush push in the goddamn play. And I get that Pat can't do the tush push because he's got funky knees. We got to have somebody doing the tush push, God damn it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Or we just, you know, strike with low leverage, you know, head and hand, run the feet and give the ball to Kareem Hunt, who's one of the best right now at short yarded situations.

[Jason Kelsey]

I was going to say I did actually see that Kareem Hunt had a higher rate than the tush push league wide in short yarded situations so far this season. I don't know if that's true. This past week he's. I guess he did get in there later in the game on the one really short one. It took a couple, but he got in there. I honestly think that halftime only getting three points there was one of the biggest, like points in the game. Because if you go into halftime sneaking out a touchdown there to end it, that's such a difference in kind of where you go. I mean, you would have been down 17, 14 at that point. I know you had a lot of other game left.

[Travis Kelsey]

All I'm thinking of is that last drive, like now we're throwing a Hail Mary instead of trying to kick a field goal to tie it. For sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

It changes it completely. And listen, the Bills were really good on offense. Uncharacteristic game for the Chiefs defense in terms of rushing the football. Especially like, that's one thing that like Spags is very good at. That defense holds their hat on is shutting down the run and making teams one dimensional. They did a great job against the Detroit Lions, one of the best rushing teams in the NFL. The Bills have done a great job the last two weeks.

[Travis Kelsey]

Josh played his tail off.

[Jason Kelsey]

He did. He had three incompletions.

[Travis Kelsey]

Had a great game.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, the Bills played a phenomenal game in all phases. Offensively, they played well. They ran the ball well. They did a. Josh played great, threw the ball extremely efficiently. And then defensively, McDermott had a good plan coming into it, and their players executed. You gotta. I mean, they got pressure on Pat. Joey Bosa had a great game. They kept running the pops on the tackles. But it was a unique way where the backer would kind of like come over late so it wouldn't feel like it was a game. And then the guard wasn't really getting it on top of the tackle. That got home a couple times. I got pressure on Pat. And then I think whenever teams can get pressure on the quarterback rushing four, it's really hard offensively to have production, especially when you're in third and long situations or, you know, you're. You're in a fourth down, gotta have it. If they can maximize coverage while only having a rush four, it's hard. And they execute in that area. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

The biggest thing was third and longs. We gotta get out of third and longs. And you know, it's. It's all right if you have a few of them, but you. When you have over a handful of them, you got like five or six, third and eight, third and 10, plus, like you're making your day way harder.

[Jason Kelsey]

I got to give a shout out too, to Colt Bishop. He made a bunch of like, really good plays in that game for Buffalo. I feel like when you're in those soft zones, what you've seen Pat a lot of times do is you go to Wor worthy underneath on some of these jet sweep things you do. He does that thing where he catches the ball and it's out of his hand quick. And he was. They were playing these soft zones, but he was playing aggressive underneath those and really jumping a lot of that, which allowed them to kind of do both. It felt like. I thought it was a real. He, he. You could tell that he was prepared coming into it. Made a lot of good plays and I think 100% deco. What you're saying, staying out of third and long makes a big difference.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And when it is third and long, it's already hard to pass Mark. And I mean, you guys got. When you got guys like Joey Bosa and schematic things that I think Buffalo was doing a really good job of up front to create pressure Just makes it hard, Trav. Speaking of Cole Bishop, how you. How you feeling after the hit?

[Travis Kelsey]

It knocked the wind out of me. He caught me. I got kind of sandwiched in there.

[Jason Kelsey]

I haven't had the wind out of me in a while. That's a annoying one.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know, you're okay, but you got to just kind of.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, it's coming back. It'll come back. It'll come back. I can breathe in a second.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I'm good.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm good. I'm good. Football, God damn it, it's the best.

[Travis Kelsey]

Go into the blue tent. You got your wind knocked out. What? Why am I in the blue? Why do I go into the. No, it was at halftime, and then I got, like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Got evaluated in the locker room.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I had to get evaluated in the locker room. I'm just sitting. I'm like, why. What is this? Why is this. What day is it? Sunday. What? What?

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't. It's Saturday. Get me the out of here.

[Travis Kelsey]

Before concussion and. Or after a conc. I don't know who we played last week. We're in week nine. Are you kidding me? This. You're gonna make me sit here and fucking. Who did we play last week? The Commanders.

[Jason Kelsey]

There.

[Travis Kelsey]

We did. We played the Commanders.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, gosh. The concussion, like, testing is kind of, like, funny. I. I do enjoy, like, baseline testing because, like, the first time you do it, it's a surprise, and they, like, give you, like, the four words at the beginning, and you don't know they're going to come back at the end of the test and recite the same words. But then every time after that, that trick doesn't work. Like, you go into it, it's like, yeah, I'm gonna need to remember these. All right. I'm gonna think about these the entire test.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And then at the end, I'm like, ace that motherfucker. And I'm actually really hard to come back from this concussion protocol now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Exactly. Yeah. You can't. That's the thing. You gotta make the baseline test. Literally the baseline. You can't do.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't remember. You gave me words at the begin. Oh, shit. Yeah. Anyways, Chiefs also are headed into the buy, as you just stated a little bit ago. Trav, I know you guys just lost, but you lost to probably the other One of the other front runners in the AFC in a tight game at their place. Just a week ago, the Chiefs were everybody's darling again in the NFL. Now the Bills win, and it's kind of changed, but I Think everybody still is of the opinion that the Chiefs are playing really good football right now. I know you're going to buy a little bit sour from the Bills game, but you got to feel pretty good with where the team's at.

[Travis Kelsey]

I feel good about it because I know the characters that we have in the room.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Travis Kelsey]

I know that. I know the guys that we have there and we're. We're going to come back recharged and ready to rock and roll. And I can't say that I'm not frustrated more from the, the entire start of the season than just this Bills game. I mean, there's games that I don't think we had any business losing. I, I feel like we didn't come out with, with our best punch against Buffalo and yeah, we gotta find a way to clean all that up, man. We got to get back to playing passionate Chiefs football, dying for each other out there on the field, man. And whatever that takes during the week to get yourself ready on Sundays, man, even on a short week, it doesn't matter. No excuses. We got, we gotta, we got a few games ahead of us where we'll, where we're going to be, where we're going to have short weeks. You know, I think there's a stint around Christmas where we have like back to back short weeks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. This is a, this has been the motto of the Chiefs. When you, when you win a bunch of games, you play games on odd days.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

But. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you guys are rolling right now. You get Josh Simmons back, that'll be good for the offensive line, hopefully.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just get my guy back in the building, man. Yeah, I miss my guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fair point then. Now you guys are two games back of Denver. You have a chance to move closer to that right after the bye week. Do you guys think about at all about home field advantage in the playoffs or any of that stuff? Or you just want to get one week at a time?

[Travis Kelsey]

At this point, it's got to be one week at a time. You can't be thinking about trying to get home field this, home field that. Obviously you set goals out in the beginning of the season to win the division, win the conference, get that home field advantage, make everyone have to come through Arrowhead. But right now it's just not that. And I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking about how the fuck are we going to beat the Denver Broncos? That's going to be on my mind for the next two weeks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, for the next week at least. Take your mind a Little bit elsewhere. What are you doing? Anything fun? You going to get into travel? What are you doing here? What are you doing over the week? Tell us about your personal life.

[Travis Kelsey]

No. No.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay. See you guys. Last thing. The Bills are the actual kings of the tush push. Hate that you guys put this in there and said that. But one of the things that was fucking crazy to me watching is just like every time I watch the Eagles play and they do a tush push, it's like a complete meltdown on social media to like the nth degree of like, it shouldn't be allowed. It's unfair. They cheat. All this stuff. I watch the Bills do it. I don't. It's like celebrated. Everybody's like happy about. I don't see one fucking person talking about the problem with officiating it or anything. Everybody's just like, oh, what a great play by the Bills. Really smart heads up play by his buddy to push him in there. And it's like, yeah, thanks, guys. I agree.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, man. It's. I mean, I feel like the Eagles just, they get away with more. Everyone else kind of just plays. It plays a fair play.

[Jason Kelsey]

Much more fair. Nobody else is trying to exploit the.

[Travis Kelsey]

Rules, jumping off sides.

[Jason Kelsey]

The officials for some reason just officiate it much better on all the other ones where there's not. Nobody even questioned the pins and needles when the. Nobody even questioned the touchdown. If Jalen Hurts would have been granted a touchdown where. When Josh got that one granted, it would have been insane. People would have been, they're just going to give him that touchdown. Just. We got to ban it. We got to get rid of it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Josh Allen scoring. What is the. The most rushing touchdowns ever by a quarterback. I mean, that could be celebrated.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm pro tush push. I think everybody should be pro tush push.

[Travis Kelsey]

But everybody's sour about.

[Jason Kelsey]

I am sour that the Eagles face a lot of criticism for a play. And I hear this all the time. It's hard to officiate. Well, why is it not hard to officiate for the other 31 other teams now that are running a version of this play? Everybody in the league is running the touch push in some degree now, other than the Chiefs. What you guys need to. I'm telling you for your own fucking good, you need to. It's. It's a cheat code. Do it while they let you.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm good. I don't want anything to do with it. Okay, well, I'll let my older brother. I let my older brother have the honor of being the tush push king, just running a play action roll out with Patty Mahomes.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's just overall the false starts and stuff get brought up when the Eagles do it. I watch on Monday night a short yardage play. The Cardinals run a short yardage play. The guard clearly leaves early and not a fucking peep about it on social.

[Travis Kelsey]

Media and I just like it's so unfair.

[Jason Kelsey]

In the words of Ed Kelsey, life is unfair.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

All right, let's get to the rest of week nine, brother.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's do it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Starting with little. Eagles have the greatest bye week of all time. The commanders, Cowboys, Packers, Lions, Giants all lost.

[Jason Kelsey]

The Eagles won a game without playing a game. They won a week without playing a week.

[Travis Kelsey]

Now a three game lead in the NFC East.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, the NFC east is a debacle right now. Nobody's good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Before this season, I was like, gosh, you know what? That, that's going to be another tough division.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, well, Washington was in the. I mean, it was the NFC Championship game last year in Jaden Daniels rookie year. And they've been hurt all over the place. Terry McClure's been hurt. David Samuel's been out. Jaden Daniels has been out. Now Jaden's out for. For a long foreseeable future with the elbow dislocation. So it's not looking good. Their defense is atrocious. The Cowboys defense is not good. And I don't know what Jerry Jones move is today. It hasn't been released yet. Apparently he's doing some type of trade, although he might have canceled it based on the performance last night from the Cowboys. We'll see what happens.

[Travis Kelsey]

Now they just picked up a linebacker.

[Jason Kelsey]

A linebacker that'll help out. Who was it?

[Travis Kelsey]

Logan. Logan Wilson from the Bengals.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nice. The NFC east might have three of the worst four or five defenses in the NFL. I mean, the Bengals are the only ones competing right now with the Commanders, Cowboys and Giants. Who else is worse on defense? I don't Know, like I just. It's bad. It's bad defensive ball right now in the NFC East. Good if you're the Philadelphia Eagles given a lot of locker room material, but whatever.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, well, the, the Eagles making moves as they always do right before the trade deadline, they require jets cornerback Michael Carter. The second Ravens cornerback, Jair Alexander, who was formerly a Green Bay Packer, back up with his old Green Bay defensive backs coach and Dolphins edge rusher who was a big. He was a hot commodity during the trade deadline. Jalen Phillips reunites with Vic Fangio.

[Jason Kelsey]

92 percenters remember him as the guy who called me Eyebrows.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's who called you Eyebrows?

[Jason Kelsey]

Nice.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that's good shit.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was too good to not stop me in my tracks and make me laugh. So he's going to bring a lot to the defense. I mean the defense, the thing that they've really been missing is the defensive backfield and depth really at edge position. I think they have good players there. Nolan Smith has been hurt. They lost sweat and Brandon Graham in the off season. They lose Milton Williams. Now all of a sudden BG comes out of retirement. Nolan Smith is going to get healthy eventually here and now. We got Jalen Phillips coming in, who's been a proven good rusher in this league and he's familiar with this system in Vic Fangio. Yeah, I think it's a no brainer. It feels like it's going to make a big difference to the depth of the defensive line as well as getting pressure on the quarterback. I wanted to ask you. So Michael Carter gets paid by the Jets. He's renowned as one of the best nickelbacks in the NFL. Supposedly his game is kind of tailed off a little bit because of injury in recent years. And then Jair Alexander, Alexander who at one point was considered one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. And then all of a sudden this season people have been crushing him and he just hasn't had the year he's wanted. So I want to ask you, someone who's gone up against both these guys, what is the new heights take on these guys as players do the Eagles win in these moves in your opinion?

[Travis Kelsey]

I honestly, I never, I never played Green Bay to the point where I like have an opinion Guarding.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, well, yeah, hopefully we got. This is the reality. The, the backfield from with Quinon and Cooper is really good. It'll be interesting to see how these new pieces fit in. Michael Carter, as we've said, has been a nickel. We have one of the best nickels in the NFL. In Cooper De Jean, does he slide out and play outside corner? Does Michael Carter become a starter? Do we start with Jair outside at the cornerback position and keep Cooper inside? Like, it's going to be interesting to see what. How Vic utilizes these new pieces, but it does bring a level of competition. Talented players who have been really good in this league before in the building, which I think in general hopefully will improve.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's what you want around the trade deadline to make a run, though. You know what I mean? You want guys that are experienced, that understand defense, you know, recognition can. Can get lined up at least and. And not be scared of the moment. I think that's what you guys got for sure. And not necessarily scared. But don't let the moment get to the.

[Jason Kelsey]

So just reemphasizes the team's idea on how competitive we are right now. You don't go out and make all these moves.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, makes them every year.

[Jason Kelsey]

Howie might have been the only person with a busier phone than Adam Schefter this weekend. Making three moves at the trade deadline. That's pretty.

[Travis Kelsey]

Did you guys lose anybody or you guys just trading picks?

[Jason Kelsey]

I think this is all picks. Jalen Phillips was. Was a third round pick, but I, I don't think we gave up players.

[Travis Kelsey]

If I'm not mistaken, he could be even brewing up something else and the rest of the league could be brewing something else. It's only Tuesday morning. Like we said, the trade deadline isn't until later today.

[Jason Kelsey]

And I will say I'm giving the Cowboys defense a lot of crap. I do think like Eberfluss's scheme, you need to have really good linebackers if you're going to run this like cover two shell.

[Travis Kelsey]

And that's why they went out and got Wilson.

[Jason Kelsey]

If you're going to run. If you want to run, cover two. If you want to run, play with two safeties back, you have to have great linebackers. Linebackers. And you have to have some guys on the D line that can get after it. Like you got to have six guys that can stop the run and get after the passer in the box. And 1,000%, hopefully this guy gets them closer to that. For the Cowboys sake, for the Eagle's sake, I hope he doesn't work out at all.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, now that does it for the trade deadline. Jason, let's get into the rest of week, whatever it is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, we're officially at the halfway point of the NFL season. Let's hand out some halfway points. Halfway point awards. That's a weird Way to say that. Halfway point awards. We based all the categories on memes.

[Travis Kelsey]

For the. The player or team that isn't getting talked about enough, we're handing out the iou an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game award.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's a lot of people that can win this one.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's the thing about the NFL season, man, is somebody could get hot right now. Somebody could just. A team could just like mesh in.

[Jason Kelsey]

A team, get an injury, and then all of a sudden be buns. I mean, look at the Ravens. First half of the year, lose two games early on, get decimated with injuries, and all of a sudden they're back to competing. So who do you think is a, you know, was not given enough credit?

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, obviously the Colts are probably the biggest thing. Daniel Jones, I would say.

[Jason Kelsey]

But the sneaky let down this past week.

[Travis Kelsey]

But another one's a sneaky one, man. Sam Darnold up there in Seattle. Seattle's all the way the fuck up there, that Northwest man. And they.

[Jason Kelsey]

I.

[Travis Kelsey]

They just don't get talked about enough.

[Jason Kelsey]

They don't get talked about.

[Travis Kelsey]

That team is physical. They have a number one in that wide receiver room. Yeah, that dude Jack Jackson and Jenga, bro. What?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

That dude is nasty. He's crazy routes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's. He's pissing everybody off that plays him. He's a problem. And then their run game is downhill. It's coming at you. And that's giving Sam Darnold a lot of time back there, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, they're running. They're running that Kubiak system very well. Clint Kubiak is. I mean, it feels like the same thing as when I was watching Houston with Arian Foster and all those guys. I mean, it's the run and play action marries up very well. And Darnold is fantastic this year. I mean, everybody. It's crazy. That one playoff game. Everybody had already come back around to Sam Darnold being a good quarterback. Then he has one absolutely terrible, like, a couple games to the end of the season, and then it was like, oh, yeah, I guess Sam Donald actually does suck. And then he's out there again and he's like. He's like first or second in QBR through the first half of the season. Like, he's balling out. And yeah, it helps to have JSN this year. Just like it helped to have freaking Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson last year. But Sam Darnold is slinging it. Leonard Williams, the guys they got up front on defense. They're. They. They have Some players in Seattle. NSC west is going to be an interesting one because I think the Rams have also. They could very easily. I mean, you take away a blocked field goal and a fourth down conversion and they haven't lost a game this year.

[Travis Kelsey]

Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? You could just fucking pull out two plays at the end of a game and it's like that's how close victory is in this fucking league, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

So I'm with you. I think Seattle and Darnold got to be the IOU an apology. And I think everybody kind of owes Darnold an apology. All right. For the veteran that is still balling out. It's the Unk. Still got it. Oh, I'm not familiar with this meme. What's this meme? Can I see this one?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm still got it.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's impressive that Unk ever had that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ah, that boy going crazy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Unk still got it.

[Travis Kelsey]

How do you even find out that.

[Jason Kelsey]

You could do that? Unk is traditionally an older player.

[Travis Kelsey]

Gotta be an older player.

[Jason Kelsey]

Gotta be an older player. Balling out. Yeah, I feel like Stafford is the obvious choice because he's. I mean he might be. He's definitely up there in contention for MVP through the first half of the season. But I feel like nobody thought Stafford didn't have it. Like everybody kind of knew. Stafford's a great quarterback.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, Stafford's unbelievable. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

So for unc still got it. I feel like it's got to be.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's got to be the old. One of the oldest players in the league.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's gotta be Flacco, right? That nobody expected him to go out there and throw for 470 on a team that he was. He's only been on for like two weeks.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

The most by a 40 plus year old quarterback in the regular season. The only 40 year old quarterback who was thrown for more was Tom Brady in Super Bowl 52.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I remember that one.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was a wild one. That was a fun game for the team that is getting healthy at the right time. We're calling this the call the ambulance, but not for me. I don't remember. I don't know this one either. Am I just not plugged in on these memes?

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I don't know this one. I knew the last one, but. But I don't know this one.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hopefully the younger audience gets this one. All right, we got Ravens, Tampa Bay, 49ers.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't.

[Jason Kelsey]

The thing with the 49ers, are they even getting healthy? I Feel like a lot of the guys they've lost are freaking out.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that sucks. I think they got Kittle back last week or two weeks ago, I guess.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do they even want park to come back at this point? Mac Jones has been ball the way.

[Travis Kelsey]

Mac Jones has been balling. Man, that's a tough decision because you paid Purdy a lot of money and.

[Jason Kelsey]

Ain'T like Purdy's was playing bad. It's just Mac Jones has really played well in his time.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's tough, man. It's tough.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I still feel like Tampa Bay is the real deal. And once they get healthy, I think they're going to be competitive. I think Baker is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. They've kind of been injured to this point and they're still one of the top teams in the nfc. Ravens, I mean, those are two good options. All three of these are really good options. I'm going to go Tampa Bay. I'm going to give. Keep on the Baker love train. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Keep it in the nfc.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

For the team or player. We can't really explain, but it gets the kids going. The six seven award. Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's a good one. That's a good one.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know about this one.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's just supposed to mean, like, it's okay, but then at the same time, nobody really knows. Everybody just kind of says it now whenever it's just like a six. Seven. Yeah. All right, whatever.

[Travis Kelsey]

I feel like the six who's got the juice? It's got to be Jackson Dart, right?

[Jason Kelsey]

He's gone in and played really well. I love the energy and effort and excitement that he's had on the game day. But it doesn't feel like it's. Like it's not all there yet. There's still a few pieces away up.

[Travis Kelsey]

There in New York, and that's the Perfect for the team or player. We can't really explain, but gets the kids going. And this. I mean, he gets the. The Jackson dark. Scatter Boo. Really? Scatter Boo was the.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, but without Scatter Boo. Is it there still?

[Travis Kelsey]

Ah, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Broncos are another good choice. I don't know how you feel about them, but the Broncos defense is lights out. Bo Nix is only good when his team is losing for some reason, bro.

[Travis Kelsey]

The guy, when it. When it comes down to it, listen, the guy just. He needs pressure. He needs to be like, oh, shit's hitting the fan. I gotta make a play.

[Jason Kelsey]

Exactly. And he does.

[Travis Kelsey]

Crazy. And he does every time. Yeah, I've seen it firsthand. Last year, he tried to pull off like a second half, like, downfield lateral.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know if you remember this, bro. And I was like, bro, he's out there doing this shit with the fucking game on the line, man. Fuck.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do you want to name the Broncos the 67 award, or is that feeling.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I think. I think it's either Drake May or May Scatterbo on the.

[Jason Kelsey]

Drake May's a 10. You can't give him a six seven. Or this dude is balling out right now. Six seven to me is not balling out. Six seven is like you're having a moment, you're playing well, but you're not, like, the best.

[Travis Kelsey]

I thought it just kind of got the kids going for some reason. I saw a video of. Of Drake May and his. His tackle. They're at a. They're at the Boston Celtics game, and they put Drake May up on the. On the screen, on the floor, and everybody's going crazy. And there's a Boston Celtics kid, like a kid, like a fan in the stands that had a I love Drake May shirt on, and he was going fucking nuts.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, it definitely gets the kids going. I just don't think that that's what six seven is. I. I don't. Yeah. Trick me. Sure.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

You crushed it, Jason. Thanks for selling that. You leaned in. Thank you so much. You didn't just leave that out to dry.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was great.

[Brandon]

Sold it. Do you think I know what 67 means? I don't.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, that's our mid season awards. And that does it for week nine. Bold topics.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Brandon]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Brandon]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Brandon]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Brandon]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Jason, this is actually very good. I'm not a big fan of mixing protein with everyday items usually, but this, I could get on board with this. This is really tasty. You don't really notice the protein additive. That's what's so just tastes like.

[Brandon]

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[Travis Kelsey]

All right, now let's move on to stamp of the week. Stamp of the week is brought to you by Starbucks. Nice, man. God, I could use some Starbucks right now. Your new protein coffee destination. I could use some protein and some caffeine.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are there other protein coffee options? I think that's the only one.

[Travis Kelsey]

Never heard of. Never heard of it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Very good protein coffee. All right. Nominees.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Who you going with, big guy?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, we got nominees. Nominees. The owl that attacked Brian Schoenheimer. I did not see this. He was attacked. That's. That's so. That's not Photoshop. There was actually an owl in his house. Chad. Remember when there was a bat in our house growing up? A bat one year and then there was a bird.

[Travis Kelsey]

I just remember the bird. I remember the bat.

[Jason Kelsey]

We had a bat one year and a bird another year.

[Travis Kelsey]

Those didn't fare too well over at the Kelsey household.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, Flash. Flash was a badass. She got rid of a lot of that stuff.

[Travis Kelsey]

She wasn't.

[Jason Kelsey]

She wasn't. We found dead birds all the time. Time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dead birds, mice. Yep. You name it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like little gifts. All right, Arch Manning.

[Travis Kelsey]

Little gifts.

[Jason Kelsey]

Clearly. Intern Brandon put that in there. Baseball. We're going to stamp. Baseball for what?

[Travis Kelsey]

Listen, just because the Phillies didn't make it doesn't mean the World Series wasn't absolutely epic. That was the awesome seven games of fucking baseball, man. It was back and forth, every team was. Both teams had their. Had their shining moments. Blue Jays are up all game going into the eighth inning.

[Jason Kelsey]

So you're telling me I'm supposed to get excited about a Canadian baseball team and a team that just spends more money than everybody else? Who the fuck cares about both of them?

[Travis Kelsey]

Both of them spend more money than everybody. It's the baseball.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, yeah. That's why baseball sucks. That's why baseball's like he is by World Series championships. The dumbest thing in the world.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's exciting.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's exciting that the team that spent the most money and everybody knew was going to win the World Series won the World Series.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was an unexpected. The person that wanted for him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Everybody knew this was going to happen before the season. We just had a bunch of meaningless shit happen before it. And then it happened. And on top of that, you still.

[Travis Kelsey]

Got to go do it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not. Yeah, well, they did. Yeah, they did it. So. Yeah. No. Baseball not getting my stamp. Baseball get a stamp if it adds a salary cap and starts making people actually having to win championships on merit rather than just spending a bunch of money on Japanese phenoms.

[Travis Kelsey]

But it is fun when one of those teams with merit find a way to get the win.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know they don't have merit, Travis. They. They. They have merit.

[Travis Kelsey]

One of the teams. One of the teams that don't pay for it find a way.

[Jason Kelsey]

They did.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's why.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's why Blue Jays are high in the payroll as well.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's what I'm saying is. No, I'm saying this year wasn't it.

[Jason Kelsey]

When has it been it?

[Travis Kelsey]

When the guards went to the World Series.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did they win?

[Travis Kelsey]

Unfortunately, no.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Oklahoma kicker Tate Sandel as a coach.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get off the field, son. Go put pants on or you're not playing for me.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think this should be allowed. Kicking is already too easy. Why the. Is this dude's. Why am I seeing vmos? I see his goddamn quad muscle. I don't want to see this I.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don'T want to see Daisy Dukes on the football field. Just put the pads on his vmos. Dude. We're not helmet.

[Jason Kelsey]

That looks like he's from the little Giants. Nervous Cam Little sets the record for field goal. I mean it's impressive. He kicked a field goal that was snapped at the 50 yard line. That's insane.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that's crazy. I'm gonna go with my guy, Brock Bowers. Man, I love giving tight ends the love. And Brock has been injured, he's been banged up all year. He comes back and man alive, two great touchdown grabs as well as 133 on it through the air, man. Actually three touchdown grabs I should say, but two of them were absolutely electric. One an option route that he broke off the defender and fucking man, the guy can fucking roll. I want to know how fast that guy was going on his long touchdown. And then the back shoulder one handed grab where he landed on his back in the end zone. Man. Rocky B.

[Jason Kelsey]

Rocky.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get my stamp of the week, brother.

[Jason Kelsey]

Stamp of the. I mean there's a bad stamp. I mean I already gave my Hemi award on Monday night to Sam Darnold. I'll give it to the kicker, not the one with fucking shorts. I'll give it to the one that made a 68 yard field goal in the NFL. I think that's pretty remarkable. I routinely am known to shit on kickers. So I'm going to do the honorable thing and give the award to somebody who set a record. Chicken Little kicked the 68 yard field goal. Brand new record. Well done. And that does it for stamp of the week brought to you by Starbucks, your new protein coffee destination. 92 percenters, it's time for a special edition of Heights hotline Pet Parent edition brought to you by Hill's Pet Nutrition. Brandon, can you please show some of the product to our fine viewers?

[Brandon]

That's right. We got. We got Hill's Pet. We got the pet.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Brandon]

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[Jason Kelsey]

As we said, this pet parent edition is brought to you by Hill's Pet Nutrition. Because while your pets are perfect, you're only human. 92 percenters, we asked you to call in your pet advice questions. So let's take a listen to some of these voicemails right now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Can't wait.

[Caller 1]

So me and I fiance, soon to be husband, are thinking of getting another puppy. We have a dog who's three right now but with just like nine to five job, we're just wondering, is there really any good time to get like a puppy. Like, do we just kind of pull the trigger with it? Because they're, they're a lot to handle. So if you could just give your advice on if you think that there's really any good time of the year to get a puppy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Any good time of year. I mean, it depends on your setup. I'll say this. It's not a good time to get a puppy if you're having kids, because that is having a puppy. Trying to potty train that thing while also trying to potty train a human being is a difficult thing that signals.

[Travis Kelsey]

The dog is now pissing in the urine. Happening all over the place is now pissing outside.

[Jason Kelsey]

And yeah, it's not ideal. You don't want that. I would say winter, depending on your climate, but winter, typically you want to let the dog outside if it needs to go to the bathroom and going outside for a walk or just letting the dog outside. Depending on your setup at your house is difficult sometimes when it's cold out there. Summer, you want to be out of the house and doing stuff. You don't want to be weighed down by a puppy. So I would say I think fall, spring, spring's a good time if you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Want to get a fucking puppy. You're going to make the decision to take care of the dog no matter when you get it. Going to have at least some inconvenience to your life. You know, it's going to switch up your daily routines and like that. So it's like the best time is whenever you're up for switching that routine.

[Jason Kelsey]

Soon to be husband's a good time to get one too. You can find out a lot about the nurturing habits of your soon to be husband. If he's with a puppy, I mean, you might not want that guy around. It's good. It's a good test. Dogs are a good test for parents as human as for humans as parents, which I do not pass usually.

[Brandon]

Don't listen to him. Good Lord, no. You get one of these things. Do we know what breed it is? No. Do we know where it's from exactly? Also no. You get one of these little creatures, it just hangs out with you all day.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's a cute. Whatever it's doing with its ears. I like that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's be honest, the breed matters a lot. The breed. The breed does make a big difference.

[Brandon]

When you're adopting and could not possibly tell you what breed this is. His DNA test came back like a.

[Jason Kelsey]

But you can see its face that it's, it's A harmless dog. Look at that face.

[Brandon]

Look at that face. So get you one of these.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's somebody that just wants to be loved.

[Travis Kelsey]

See? Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. I would adopt, like, an old bloodhound. I would just get, like, an old bloodhound that just can't even move and just sits on the porch, and it's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just drools and farts all day.

[Jason Kelsey]

Lips and ears are just, like, matted down onto the carpet. What's the next question?

[Caller 1]

My name is Ruth. My question is, was there any kind of pet that either of you wanted as a kid that your parents absolutely wouldn't have allowed? Like, for instance, my mom would have been cool with just about anything, including snakes, which I. I'm pretty sure that's not the norm. But, like, is there anything that Mama Kelsey or Papa Kelsey would have immediately vetoed? Also, my cat, Autumn Willow. She watches the show with me every week.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay, Autumn.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, Autumn.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. Shout out to Autumn.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think we would have been allowed to get anything other than a dog and a cat. I think that's where mom and dad drew the line.

[Travis Kelsey]

I remember bringing it up that I wanted a ferret. I thought they were the coolest animals ever.

[Jason Kelsey]

Very much remember that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Then learned that they're not very, like. My college roommate had a ferret, who had a ferret, and I got to. Isaiah Peed.

[Jason Kelsey]

Isaiah Peed had a ferret, Dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes. I forget the name of it, but it was living in our dorm room illegally.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Of course.

[Travis Kelsey]

Frowned upon, because you can't have pets in the dorm rooms.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was the same thing with Marcus Barnett. Marcus Barnett had an alligator in the dorms.

[Travis Kelsey]

Bones Barnett, man. God damn it. What a legend. Yeah. So a ferret is a very. It's a. I mean, you got to be ready for the room to smell, like, absolute. It's gonna be a mess. Those things are not, like, as cute and friendly as you would hope they were.

[Jason Kelsey]

I feel like we talked about. Definitely remember you wanting a ferret.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, yeah, my dad looked mentioned that when I told him, I was like, yeah, my roommate has a ferret, and it is the worst. And he's like, yeah, you remember when you wanted that rodent? Dad got fired up. He was like, thank God I, I. We didn't lean into that.

[Jason Kelsey]

I feel like we almost got a hamster one. Like, the rodents were definitely a thing for a little bit. Then there was, like, a rabbit because I did the pornhorse. Somebody had a rabbit or a bunny, one of our friends, and we talked about that for a Little bit. No chance our parents were letting us get a snake or anything like that.

[Travis Kelsey]

We'd have done something done with it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I do remember you wanted a pygmy marmoset. This is when you're a full grown adult, kind of. I wouldn't be surprised if you still want. You remember those little finger monkeys that.

[Travis Kelsey]

That. Oh, yeah, around that. Those things look cool. I just saw them flying around, jumping on fingers. I just wanted to put my finger in the air and see it jump from one side of the room onto my finger.

[Jason Kelsey]

I did have a buddy that had a monkey growing up and I remember going there and seeing the cage for this thing and just being like, what the. I was like a kid and I was like, why the. Do you guys have a monkey, dude? You know the one, the pet that I kind of want now. I saw one online where somebody had like a. Like a full on. Not a sea turtle, but like those old. The. The tortoises that grow to be like. No, no, they're like just like a. It's just a big tortoise. I can't. Giant tortoise or whatever it's called.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I know, I know, exactly.

[Jason Kelsey]

They had them in Chicago and it was like. Had a garage beer on its back. And I was just walking down the street. I was like, God dang. A t. A t. A tortoise, like that would be so sick. But then it's like, all right, where do I keep this?

[Travis Kelsey]

Just because it's 100 years, it outlives you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Pass it on down. That's Bill. He's older than everybody in the family.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're stuck with him now.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is now your inconvenience. Good luck caring for him in the winter in Pennsylvania.

[Travis Kelsey]

Do you recommend exotic pets for kids, Jason?

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't remember exotic pets for anybody. I think exotic pets should stay exotic. Wild animals, dogs and cats are kind of the big ones. Do you. I mean, you know the one that's kind of getting interesting. Donkeys, like, like a miniature donkey, I think is that's an exotic pet. The me.

[Caller 1]

Hi, my name is Eleanor and I'm calling regarding pet parenting advice. I have a 5 year old 1950s name right there and I'm getting ready to adopt a younger brother for him. And I just need to find a perfect name. So my question is, what should I name my new male kitten?

[Jason Kelsey]

Perfect. Perfect name. That's a tough task. What did they. What did you say the older cat's name was?

[Brandon]

Franklin. That was Franklin.

[Jason Kelsey]

Franklin. I like Franklin. I'm a Big fan of human names for pets and pet names for humans. Franklin is a great name.

[Travis Kelsey]

Franklin's a good one.

[Jason Kelsey]

I like that. So she's kind of into this territory. What's a good pet name for a male cat that's a younger sibling to Franklin?

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, if you're going Franklin, why not keep it in the childhood cartoon? Like kids, you know, you're like, hey, it's Franklin. Get. You can go, Arthur.

[Jason Kelsey]

Arthur. That's it.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's a. I mean, I think that's Franklin and Arthur.

[Jason Kelsey]

Frank and Art.

[Travis Kelsey]

Frank and Artie. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think we just did it. That's the perfect name. She's not gonna think anything. Eleanor's not gonna get a better one than Art. What are some other options? We got Arthur. Arthur's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

Doug. Doug funny.

[Jason Kelsey]

Doug doesn't feel like a cat. I'm not getting.

[Travis Kelsey]

Unless it's like a cat that just fucking sits around.

[Jason Kelsey]

Doug kind of does Doug. I don't know why. Doug kind of feels like a fuck up for a name. Yeah, I think it's Arthur. Arthur's the perfect name. As we've said, we like people names for pets. I think it's. It's always fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, now that does it for the Heights hotline Pet parent Edition. That's right. Brought to you by Hill's Pet Nutrition. When it comes to pet nutrition, they've got the right game plan for your pet.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to the New Heights production team, we're always making this look better. And yeah, we're on the bye week. So I'll see you guys next week after. I don't play football well. Bye. 92%ers.

[Jason Kelsey]

See you guys. Robin Williams is the genie in Aladdin is the best.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's the greatest.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nobody's done a better voice acting role in anything ever. I don't think.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know. Shrek was pretty good.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not even close to the comedic timing and ability that that Robin Williams executed with the Genie from Aladdin. I mean, he was. It's the only reason the movie is, like, redeemable. They tried to redo it with Will Smith, and it was a fucking disaster. Like, nobody liked it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I thought it was a disaster. I thought it was pretty good.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, you are so out of your fucking mind if you thought that movie was even remotely good.

[Travis Kelsey]

I thought it was good and it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Was bad because everybody expected the genie to still be Robin Williams. It was not like an indictment on Will Smith. Anybody in that role was going to fail.

[Travis Kelsey]

I remember the songs in Aladdin a lot.

[Jason Kelsey]

They're great. It's my favorite Disney flick. Click. Of all the old school ones, that's the ones I watch. I like the messaging behind it. And, like, I think it's a great film. It's a fantastic film. And then of the new ones, I'm kind of into Coco, which really isn't even a movie for kids. Like, a child watching Coco gets nothing out of it. But if you're an adult, you're in tears at the end of it. It is an intense movie.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just telling you, dude, you're knee deep in it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Some of the new movies are a little bit too straightforward with what they're trying to message. They're too descriptive. The songs are more straightforward. Like, there's no interpretation. It's all just like, this is what this movie's about.