New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce — Episode 175 Detailed Summary

Coaching Changes, Wildcard Recap & Jameis Winston on Giants Rookies, QB Celibacy & TD Catches
January 14, 2026 | Wondery

Episode Overview

In this lively playoff edition, Jason and Travis Kelce recap the NFL Super Wild Card Weekend, debate the season's biggest coaching and team changes, and dig deep into what happened with the Philadelphia Eagles. Special guest Jameis Winston brings insight and stories—on QB mindsets, celibacy, the challenges of new playbooks, tricks of leadership, the value of multi-sport athletes, and some hysterical anecdotes about Giants rookies. The brothers' signature banter, player perspectives, and raw honesty keep things entertaining throughout.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show & Merch Announcements (02:08–09:04)

• Official launch of the Kelsey Clubhouse: A one-stop destination for New Heights merch, collaborations, and products both related and personal favorites.
  • Jason: “We’re trying to bring this show to life... to have more fun with it and keep y’all engaged.” (03:25)
• Announcement of their first book: No Dumb Questions—a collection of the funniest and oddest fan and football queries, available for preorder.

2. Jason’s Quest to Dunk (09:04–13:27)

• Jason updates his "dunking by the end of January" goal—planning to attempt a live dunk at a 76ers game on January 29.
  • Travis: “Dude, you look explosive. It looks like you got the footwork down.” (10:04)
  • The brothers debate the usefulness of gear: “You lost about a foot of airtime with that weightlifting belt.” (10:26)
  • Jason on dunk-attempt stakes: “It’s either gonna be maximum celebration... or Philly will literally boo me off the court.” (13:16)

3. Super Wild Card Weekend Recap (13:33–28:45)

a. Tightest Wild Card Weekend Ever

• Four games decided by four points or less, 12 fourth-quarter lead changes—an all-time playoff record.
  • Travis: “Playoff football, baby. Are you fucking kidding me?” (13:49)
  • Jason: “Soldier Field getting a fucking dub, man. That place looked like it was absolutely rocking.” (14:48)

b. Bears-Packers & Caleb Williams’ Magic

• Caleb Williams’ clutch performance, especially his late heroics.
  • Travis: “Some quarterbacks just have that ability to flip the switch... Caleb Williams came up huge.” (15:36–16:02)
  • Jason: “At the end of games, when it has to happen, he makes some of the most insane throws.” (16:10)

c. Eagles’ Frustration & Coaching Change

• Eagles lose to 49ers, capping a frustrating, injury-plagued season. OC Kevin Petullo fired.
  • Jason: “The offense didn’t live up to what it should have... Petullo as OC bears responsibility, and so do the players.” (24:45)
• Debates around stale playcalling and need for offensive creativity vs. execution.
  • Travis: “You can’t just throw it on one guy.” (25:29)
  • Jameis Winston: Offers perspective later in episode on Eagles’ scheme, QBs, and coaching carousel. (80:24–86:31)

d. Other Recaps

• Rams edge Panthers in a wild affair—Stafford praised for late-game mastery, Bryce Young for resilience.
• Seahawks and league’s best defenses highlighted.
• Bills-Jags: Josh Allen gets credit for composure in big moments.
• Chargers’ playoff slump and Patriots’ defensive grit.

4. Coaching Changes & Coaches As Trade Assets (34:49–36:13)

• Steelers’ Mike Tomlin stepping away; debate over trading coaches (reference to Jon Gruden’s trade).
  • Jason: “Can you believe coaches get traded, like—forgot that was even a thing.” (35:02)

5. Divisional Round Preview (36:13–37:47)

• Most-anticipated games: Texans vs. Patriots, Bills vs. Broncos.
• Jason: “I’m looking forward to May versus this Texans defense, to see how he responds.” (36:48)
• Travis: “Josh and Bo Nix kinda play the game similar. This is an opportunity for Bo to cement his name.” (37:13)

6. Stamps of the Week & Favorite Moments (37:52–41:35)

• Travis stamps their mom for her turn on “Traitors”: “It was just so cool to see her living out her dream, giving the world a beautiful message.” (38:13)
• Jason stamps youth hockey brawlers, reminiscing on hockey fights and “locker boxing” as essential growing-up rituals.

Jameis Winston Guest Segment: Key Highlights

7. On Team Culture & Leadership (45:18–49:03; 66:01–67:56)

• Jameis: “Speaking life into my teammates... being impeccable with my word.” (66:01)
• On building a winning culture: “Being a better football player will never make you a better man, but being a better man will make you a better football player.” (67:19)

8. On Quarterbacking, Playcalling, and Youthful Teammates (46:40–55:14)

• Jameis praises Drake May’s consistency and resilience under adversity.
  • Jameis: “Drake May, man, he continues to impress me.” (48:19)
• Shares what it’s like adapting to countless offensive coordinators; the difference between great playcallers and systematic callers.
  • Jameis: “When a coach pulls something that was installed in OTAs... and it hits... you know he’s in his bag.” (49:15)
• On confidence as a signal-caller even with a "straight poo" play—“I gotta make it sound good to everybody else.” (52:00)

9. Locker Room Wisdom, Off-Field Struggles, and the 30-30 Season (57:16–62:01)

• Explains his famous “30 touchdowns, 30 interceptions” campaign—mix of aggressive scheme, personal challenges, and celibacy.
  • “I was doing this freaking celibacy thing, literally refraining from sex.” (58:51)
  • The season was tough emotionally: family losses, personal transitions, relentless effort.

10. On Giants Rookies, Especially Cam Skattebo (73:07–77:28)

• Skattebo’s unique background and old-school toughness.
  • Jameis: “He is from a football kingdom somewhere else, and somebody just dropped his crazy ass on earth.” (74:19)
  • “When we played against Kansas City and him and Nick Bolton met in that hole... I said, okay, this white boy right here is something serious.” (75:31)
• Emphasizes how Cam helps protect rookie QB Jackson Dart by shouldering more carries and punishment.

11. On Balancing QB Aggressiveness, Youth, and Risks (64:10–65:18)

• Jameis: “I’d rather a young quarterback be about it than be scared.” (65:18)
• Stories of O-line and D-line banter, and how trash talk can backfire.

12. On Eagles’ Offensive Frustrations, Jalen Hurts & OC Turnover (80:12–86:31)

• Jameis diagnoses Eagles’ woes: loss of run-game identity, Jalen Hurts’ reduced rushing threat, lack of playcalling continuity.
  • “It’s not even just the play-caller... it’s the verbiage too. That gets homogenized in your brain.” (87:01)

13. On Head Coaches & the Right Leadership Formula (88:00–95:23)

• Jameis asks Jason what makes for a successful head coach and organizational reset (for the Giants’ situation). Jason explains the importance of loyalty, keeping staff continuity, and motivational skills.

14. Jameis’ Personal NFL Moments (107:46–109:53)

• Jameis: “My very first pass in the NFL was a touchdown... to the other team.” (107:59)
  • Both Travis and Jameis bonding over their first NFL passes being interceptions.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jason on Eagles coaching problems:
  “The bottom line is this offense didn’t live up to what it should have. Right. And Petullo as OC bears responsibility, and so do the players. That’s my thing. I don’t think the players played as good as they could have.” (24:45)
• Jameis Winston on culture-building:
  "Being a better football player will never make you a better man, but being a better man will make you a better football player." (67:19)
• Jameis on Cam Skattebo:
  "He is from a football kingdom somewhere else and somebody just dropped his crazy ass on earth... and said, 'Go run that pill.'" (74:19)
• Travis on playoff chaos:
  "Playoff football, baby. Are you fucking kidding me?” (13:49)
• On Jameis catching a touchdown:
  "When I toss him this pill, I'm just like, man, I know I'm about to Score a touchdown. I've been waiting on this moment my whole life." (77:56)
• Jameis on his 30/30 season:
  “It was a contract year for me, man. And that was one of the most up and down years off the field that I had in my life, too, man... I was doing this freaking celibacy thing, like, literally refraining from sex, man.” (58:50)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Kelsey Clubhouse Launch & Merch: 02:08–09:04
• Jason’s Dunk Challenge: 09:04–13:27
• Wild Card Weekend Recap (all games): 13:33–28:45
• Coaching Trades & Tomlin News: 34:49–36:13
• Divisional Round Preview: 36:13–37:47
• Stamps of the Week (Mom, Hockey Fight): 37:52–41:35
• Jameis Winston Interview Main Start: 45:18
  • QB Mindsets & Playcallers: 48:28–55:14
  • On Young Giants QBs & Cam Skattebo: 62:23–77:26
  • Eagles Offensive Diagnosis: 80:12–86:31
  • Head Coaches & Locker Room Culture: 88:00–95:23
  • Playoff Picks & Philosophies: 95:39–97:51
  • Favorite NFL Moments: 107:46–109:53

Tone & Style

• Playful sibling rivalry and deep football knowledge (typical Jason & Travis).
• Jameis brings earnestness, humor, and wisdom—mixing hilarious stories with motivational philosophy.
• Real talk about player performance, front office decisions, and the constant churn of NFL rosters/coaches.

For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode blends playoff intensity, locker room insight, and comedic stories, all tied together by brotherly chemistry and one of the NFL’s most charismatic guests. You’ll get:

• Honest Eagles postmortem (from inside).
• Wild Card weekend drama and breakdowns.
• Jameis’ unique look at modern quarterbacking and team leadership.
• Explanations of why QB and coaching continuity matter.
• How rookie energy and veteran wisdom fuel NFL teams—especially the 2026 Giants.

If you care about what happens behind the NFL headlines (and want to laugh along the way), this episode is essential.