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New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Deion Sanders on Missing Shedeur, 90s Cowboys Aura and Becoming Prime Time | Ep 155
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Deion Sanders
My welcome to the NFL moment was housing that thing on the first game I played in against the Rams.
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Jason Kelsey
That's a hell of a welcome. That's a good one.
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Deion Sanders
I dropped it, picked it up and housed it. And I can remember going downtown to the mall. I bought 11 Gucci watches for the whole punt return team, special teams.
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Travis Kelsey
Oh, man, this is electric.
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Deion Sanders
And I wrote on the card every fourth down. I just wanted y' all to know what time it was. That is so good.
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Travis Kelsey
Welcome back to New heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of Wondery show, brought to you by Reese's Oreo cups, the delicious peanut butter cups with the oreo cookie combined.
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Deion Sanders
God damn.
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Travis Kelsey
We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey and my big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Subscribe on YouTube 1D+ wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. 92 percenters, we got an incredible guest episode, man. He's been one of the main, main people that I've looked up to my entire life that I've always wanted to get on this show. And it's finally happening.
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Jason Kelsey
It's pretty.
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Travis Kelsey
We got a great episode. Jason, why don't you do the honors and tell everybody what we got coming up today?
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Jason Kelsey
Before we get to that, Travis, let's put them on, baby. There we go. We got a fun one right now.
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Travis Kelsey
See what time it.
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Deion Sanders
Oh, yeah. Hold up, hold up.
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Travis Kelsey
Excuse me. Yeah, I. I think money's on the line, baby.
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Deion Sanders
All righty.
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Jason Kelsey
Our guest today is a 6 foot 1 shutdown quarterback from Florida State University. He was the fifth overall pick in the 1989 NFL Draft. He's a six time All Pro, eight time Pro Bowler, one time defensive player of the year, and a member of the NFL hall of fame. He's a two time super bowl champion, the only person in history to play in a Super bowl and a World Series. You know him as Neon Dion prime time. And most Recently, Coach Prime. 92 percenters, please welcome.
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Deion Sanders
That's how I'm waking up now. I'm not getting out of my bed unless I hear that I'm not getting coaches.
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Travis Kelsey
The least we can do, man. We appreciate you taking the time, man. How we. How we doing this week? We getting the guys. We getting.
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Deion Sanders
We.
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Travis Kelsey
We getting the guys back on. Back on track.
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Deion Sanders
We got no choice. We ain't no choice. Right, right.
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Travis Kelsey
There we go. I'm right there with you.
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Deion Sanders
I'm right there with you.
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Travis Kelsey
I'm right there with you, man, how did you. How did we walk into the building today? That's what I want to know, man.
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Deion Sanders
You know what, man? The whole thing is accountability. That's my word of the week. Everybody's accountable, baby. Everybody's accountable. We got to step it up. We got to go to the next level, and you can't want the. The. The good, pretty, shiny stuff if you're not ready. Ready to do the good, pretty, shiny things.
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Jason Kelsey
Right?
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Deion Sanders
Right.
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Travis Kelsey
I love. Well said getting after. That's. And that's exactly the. The message that Coach Reed actually had for us is just accountability, man. As long as you're bringing that energy and you're holding yourself accountable, we're gonna be just fine. We're gonna be just fine.
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Deion Sanders
It's gonna be all right.
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Jason Kelsey
Well, Coach, we start everything off with a little bit of new news. And how about you start us off a little bit of that new news? We. I know you're recently dropping your new Prime 21 apparel.
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Travis Kelsey
Yes, sir.
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Jason Kelsey
High stepper socks, cowboy hats. These shades, bro. These shades are ridiculous, man.
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Deion Sanders
These are nice shades of G. Tell you somebody. Socks. See? See, Kel. See, back in the day, they thought I just wore my socks scrunched down, but I actually had them made like this.
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Jason Kelsey
Really? I didn't know that.
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Travis Kelsey
Everybody's been faking it this whole time, man.
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Jason Kelsey
Everybody's been trying to replicate. They can't do it.
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Deion Sanders
They were made like this, so when I pulled them up, it just had that appearance. It had that look, but they were made like that.
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Jason Kelsey
I love it. I love it. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah.
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Deion Sanders
Glad.
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Travis Kelsey
Listen, everybody wants to be like, Prime. At what point in your life, Coach, did you know you had people gravitating towards you because of the personality that you had?
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Deion Sanders
I was a little, you know, like, you wouldn't believe it now because I, you know, I know when I got to put on, I got to show out. I got to show up and show out. But I'm. I'm. I'm a homebody, man. I don't go out. I don't club. I don't kick it. I don't smoke. I don't drink, never taste alcohol, never been high day in my life. I don't.
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Jason Kelsey
Wow.
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Deion Sanders
I don't like out. Like, I don't mind playing in front of crowds and selling stadiums out, but I don't like crowds. I don't like to be in crowds around a lot of people. I'm a home guy. Like, I'm. I'm in bed by seven, man. Like, I. I Never went out after games because I always had migraines because I was so hyped doing the games. Coming down always gave me migraines, so I had to go right home with ice packs on my neck, and they had no cure for it. I had all kind of stuff going on, but I couldn't. I could never celebrate like that. I never was that type of guy that my Persona led me to be.
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Travis Kelsey
I hear you.
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah, absolutely. That is. Yeah, the Persona is definitely what everybody knows you as. The freaking prime time. I mean, come on now. That was our entire childhood watching. That was incredible.
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Travis Kelsey
I'm just glad they're bringing back the kicks.
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Deion Sanders
Yeah, I'm just glad they're bringing back the kicks.
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Travis Kelsey
The diamond turfs.
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Deion Sanders
Every.
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Travis Kelsey
Every colorway, man.
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Deion Sanders
Every single colorway.
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Travis Kelsey
Oh, you know, I got all of them. You know, I got all of them.
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Jason Kelsey
I need every single one.
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Deion Sanders
They don'. They don't.
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Travis Kelsey
They don't make it with good leather like this anymore.
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Deion Sanders
Coach, I appreciate you bringing them back. I got you.
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Jason Kelsey
One of the things that's been so fun to watch is you taking that personality and that energy to the college football ranks and coaching. You've completely changed the game. You're still at Colorado, but now the thing that's changed this year is your sons aren't there anymore. What's it been like now that your kids have moved on in their careers? Yeah. What's it like coaching now?
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Deion Sanders
Tough jokes.
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
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Deion Sanders
That. They. They clowning me right now, and I'm clowning them right back. Like, we just. I just got the publisher. It is just, you know, we got this family chat, then we got the girls involved with the chat, Then we just got all the boys and all the girls. We got all different kind of chats. Because I got five kids. So, yes, right now, they on my butt. I just told you, though, I know you miss me. Get it twisted. But you know what, man? I. I definitely miss. Just all my life, they've been there. They've been there, and they've been right there with me the whole separate way. My oldest son is still here and doing all the social stuff, but I definitely miss my other two sons. I certainly do. And my daughter that was playing basketball here, she's Alabama A and M right now.
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Travis Kelsey
That had to be such a special, special time in your life to be able to do that with your kids like that, man. I think everybody in the football world could only dream of being able to do something that you did like that, man.
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Deion Sanders
We don't know no other way. We didn't know another way. Like, all our lives, that's the only way we knew. So we never knew another way of how it's supposed to be. We thought that's how it's supposed to be.
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Travis Kelsey
You got a new quarterback under your hands. Martin Luther Staub, man.
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Jason Kelsey
With the.
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Travis Kelsey
I had a dream of being here and doing it. The interview after the first game was electric, man. But right now it's. I'm not sure how the nil world has changed what you knew college to be when you were at Florida State, but how difficult is that, navigating the new world that that is amongst the nil deals in college.
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Deion Sanders
Let me take you back a minute. I think I was actually the first nil deal because my junior year, I didn't play baseball at Florida State, but I got drafted by the Yankees. So I accepted professional cash, which allowed me to be a walk on coming back my senior year of football. So I went and played the whole summer, six weeks. I played rookie league for two weeks in Sarasota. I played single A for two weeks in Fort Lauderdale. Then I went to AAA for two weeks in Columbus, all in the summer. Then I came back, you know, in August to get ready for camp.
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Jason Kelsey
That is so wild.
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Deion Sanders
So since I accepted money from pros, I was a walk on.
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Travis Kelsey
That's crazy.
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Deion Sanders
The Yankees paid my scholarship, but you couldn't tell me nothing. Okay. Like, you could tell?
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Jason Kelsey
Of course. Yeah.
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Deion Sanders
Right? Yeah. Yeah. I got a neck full of gold, like, I think Louis bags. That's what it's like. That's when the prime stuff really jumped off because I had justification.
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah, for sure. That's amazing.
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Travis Kelsey
That's such a crazy world, man. And obviously it kind of primed you. Primed you up and got you ready for when you went to the pros.
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Deion Sanders
Yeah.
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Travis Kelsey
Played in two different professional leagues in the same day.
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Deion Sanders
Yeah. But, man, it was my life, fellas. Like. Like, to me, it was nothing big because that was my life. Like, all my life I had played baseball, football, and basketball. So even in high school, I remember playing in the basketball all star game the same day the baseball all star game was. We played baseball during that day. The basketball game was at night. So I was used to that. So when I got to college, how can somebody tell you what you can't do? And this is the only life I knew. I didn't know another life. So that's why when it got to the pro level, I'm like, how you telling me I can't do this? And this is all I know. I don't know. I don't know no other way.
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Travis Kelsey
We definitely played multiple sports growing up and I tried to do the football, basketball thing. When I say I tried, I asked and they said, yeah, you can come on, but you're going to get a football scholarship. You're going to play football until football season's over with and then you're going to go play basketball. And then there was the whole, you have to be responsible, Travis.
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Jason Kelsey
And that's what.
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Deion Sanders
I wasn't.
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Travis Kelsey
I wasn't. So, so I. The accountability and how responsible you were. You. You had everything in line and that's the type of dedication it takes for somebody to be a. Not only just a 2 sports star, but maybe even a 2 position star like you had with Travis Hunter last year.
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Deion Sanders
Yeah, man.
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Travis Kelsey
How have you seen him kind of come into his role with Jacksonville? Do you like how he's being used yet or have you been able to even catch?
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Deion Sanders
Definitely not. They're not using him enough. Like, you know, I. With my own eyes on an everyday basis for three straight years. So I know what he's capable of and I know how you got to take care of him. He never practiced on Tuesdays. He's practiced on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. He was ready to play 100 and some snaps on Saturday. So you didn't need to use him on a Tuesday or Monday. You don't use him like that. But Travis is a big kid, man. He just loves the game, he loves football, he loves studying, he loves the preparation. He always had at least five hours of study in each week because we keep that, we keep that list. We know how much everybody's studying and he is just a phenomenal athlete, one of the greatest I've ever seen do both simultaneously. And he dominated. My rule is I'll let anybody do it. Long as you dominate, you got to be dominated.
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Jason Kelsey
You got to get it done.
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Deion Sanders
Yeah, you got to get it done. I can't let you out there. You getting killed on the corner, but you playing receiver.
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Travis Kelsey
No, no, no, don't work.
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Jason Kelsey
Obviously, Travis Hunter, the big number one pick out there, you've had a couple other players. Obviously your son, Shador, Legionte Wester with the Ravens and Jimmy H. With the Panthers. I guess as Browns fans, we got to know, have you been keeping up with Shador in Cleveland? Oh, what's the best piece of advice you've given him as a dad and as a coach?
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Deion Sanders
Be patient and be ready.
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Jason Kelsey
There you go.
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Deion Sanders
Be patient and be.
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Jason Kelsey
That's all you can do.
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Deion Sanders
I Don't want you to. They call your name, and you ain't ready. Don't, don't, don't. Don't let that. We ain't built like that, Sanders. We ain't built like that. We always ready. We don't have to get ready. He's ready. And I want you to be patient. You don't force nothing that ain't that. That it may not be time. You know, I drink coffee every morning. There's one thing I do, I don't pull the coffee cup off the darn maker before it's ready. It's got to be prepared right? Put my ingredients in. I make it right. But I'm like, son, you gotta. You gotta be ready. You got to be ready when it's time. But when it's time, you're gonna know. As in, it's coming up. You know, I got a prediction. Nobody. I, I, I got a feeling when it's gonna go down, but it's gonna, Gonna happen.
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Jason Kelsey
All right?
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Deion Sanders
Yeah. You'll get a shot.
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Jason Kelsey
And that's all you can ask for as a player. All you can ask for is the opportunity. Right?
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Deion Sanders
Damn. It is. Because this is all over the media. Because I know y' all keep it a buck. That's why I love y' all to life. And Mama, too. Please tell Mama I said hi. Let me tell you something. How in the world they made a big deal out of Philly, called us on draft day. They didn't mention that. I just let a cat out of the bag.
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Jason Kelsey
Okay. No, it's good. I didn't know that. Yeah.
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Deion Sanders
Okay. Who was it? Baltimore in the Browns. They forget. I know. I, I played for Baltimore, so me and Ozzy are cool. So there you go. He understood that whole conversation, and he wanted to talk to Shador as well as you want to talk to me. And I pushed your door on the phone. And Shador. I don't want to say how it went, but how in the world can somebody fault him for saying or thinking, why in the world would I go back up Lamar for 10 more years? Like, who comes in with that mindset?
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Jason Kelsey
No, that's not where you want to go. If you're, if you, if the goal is to be that guy and you want to be the player and the.
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Travis Kelsey
Number, you want to get that opportunity.
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Deion Sanders
Yeah, but where do these guys come from that sit on these platforms and say, oh, you should have sat in behind and. And learned the game and been what they develop. Wouldn't have the pros ever developed anybody.
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah, it don't happen very often.
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Deion Sanders
By the time you get to the NFL, they expect you to know what you need to do and to do it or somebody else go get in there and do it. Now, they teach you their playbook, but development and teaching you how to route folks up and you how to block and, and hold that point. Man, please.
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Jason Kelsey
Ain't nobody told you that you got.
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Travis Kelsey
To figure it out on your own, man, I've been trying to teach some guys that have come out, come, come in and out of the building or all across that. I ask you, you know, how. How do you run your route like this? How do you run your route like that? I'm like, man, you just got to run it enough to figure it out, right?
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Jason Kelsey
Like, for me, I was a 6 round draft pick and I got drafted to a team in Philadelphia that wanted a new center. I was so lucky to get into a position where they were like, just don't fuck this up, Jason, and you can be the starter. Like, we want you to play. And that's like, if I would have went behind, if I would have went behind Kevin my or, you know, I'm trying to think of who the other centers were, the Alex Mack or some of these guys and sat, like, yeah, I would have learned something from. But it was much better for me in my career to get an opportunity to go and play right away. There ain't no question. And if I, I wouldn't have changed that for a second. No matter what I'm going to learn or develop anywhere else.
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Deion Sanders
I've never sat on the bench and said, well, I learned a lot today. That is a great quote.
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Jason Kelsey
God damn, that is a good quote.
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Deion Sanders
Who learns sitting on the bench? Like, who, who? Who does that?
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah, you're gonna learn a lot more being out there. We did want to bring up, you've been known to rank your kids. What's the latest ranking?
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Travis Kelsey
Where are we at right now?
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Deion Sanders
First of all, y' all parents rank y'.
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Jason Kelsey
All.
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Deion Sanders
Y' all just don't know. Okay?
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Jason Kelsey
No, for sure. Mom's always had Travis number one. I do know.
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Travis Kelsey
Listen. And right now, right now, mom has Jason, he has kids.
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Jason Kelsey
That is true. She has said that. She has made that comment. She's put some pressure on him.
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Deion Sanders
So what you waiting on, Do? So what you waiting on? You know, like I tell my kids, I know we've had some close calls. I told my kids, you know, we sit on the edge of the bed, like, oh, Lord, if you get me out of this, I promise you I'll be a church Sunday. I promise you, Lord, for sure. But I rate my kids, man. Like, I love them differently. I don't love them the same. This is honest. I know which one is going to take care of me when I'm. When I'm older, I know which one is gonna ask me for money when I'm older. I know which one. Yeah. Keeps me on my knees in front of God. I know, I know. I'm like a book. All you have to do is just describe what happened, and I can tell you which one did it. Like, that's how knowledgeable I am with my kids, and I love them differently.
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Jason Kelsey
Let's transition to playing prime time.
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Travis Kelsey
Oh, man.
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Jason Kelsey
The one that we grew up. I mean, just the incredible. Not just play. It wasn't just that you were a player. That was spectacular, but it was everything. The. The bravado, like, the. The whole show was just incredible to watch. And it all really took off with the 90s Cowboys. So recently, Netflix put out America's team documentary about the 90s cowboys. I mean, what was it like playing on this team, Coach?
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Deion Sanders
Yeah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Like, I was just going through, like, a personal kind of hell at the time I left San Fran. You know, it's like, I need challenge. I need the challenges in my life. I'm like, okay, let me go to San Fran. Oh, okay. We beat the Cowboys. Oh, boom. Jerry Jones wants me to go there. Let me go there and see if we could beat San Fran now. It's like, I needed challenges in my life. And sure, you know, I called Mike playmakers like a brother to me, man. We. We was all. We had a bunch of Florida boys that played for Cowboys at the time. I said, how's it, man? Cause I ain't with no jealousy. I ain't got time for this mess. Every locker room I've been in has been some bull junk. I ain't got time for that. Mike said we good over here, baby. We Florida boys over here. Emmett. Mike.
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
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Deion Sanders
Big Nate. You know, all my guys. Okay, so it was unbelievable, man. Jerry Jones will go down and should go down. His history as arguably the best owner that ever owned a football franchise because of just you. You hear media talk about Jerry. You've never heard a player talk about Jerry Jones in a negative fashion because he is unbelievable. I had the luxury to play for Eddie DeBarlo, who was unbelievable in some other ones, and Steve Ashodi later on in life. But let me tell you something, man. The Cowboys, you talking about America's team. And when you travel and when you go place, it's probably like it is because, you know, right now, you see it's probably the same way. Philly fans are crazy. They'll kill you, shank you in. It was unbelievable, man. It really was. It was experience. We were too young and dumb to really know the level of it.
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Travis Kelsey
I can only imagine what it was. I mean, it took it by storm and it literally became the biggest franchise in sports because of those years. Are. Is that like your favorite team that you were on?
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Deion Sanders
Atlanta was my favorite team.
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Jason Kelsey
Elena was a fan.
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Deion Sanders
We had so much fun, man. I mean, we got our butts kicked. We. I think we went to a playoff. We had so much fun, man. I think we had a team meeting Maddox City every Friday night, you know, it was just crazy. We had so shout out to Magic. It was so much fun. But the Dallas Cowboys were different. San Francisco was business. It was like business. And I love that it was business. But then you got to Dallas and you won like they did in San Fran. But you had fun winning because you enjoyed all your teammates and all the laughter and the banter that went on.
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Jason Kelsey
I gotta say, from this documentary in Dallas, as an Eagles fan, I. You're like. Or as an Eagles player, and on this side of it, you're taught to hate Jerry Jones. I gotta say, I kind of like what I'm seeing on it. I gotta. I gotta admit, when, between this documentary and then his. His deal on Landman, when he talks about buying the franchise and like, his family and everything, I'm like, you know what? I'm kind of turning into a Jerry guy. I kind of like what he's what I'm being told.
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Deion Sanders
Let me tell you one quick story about Jerry. Once upon a time, I'm watching espn and this guy is about to go crazy. You remember Big Kelsey? I call Big Kelsey Lonzo Spell?
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Jason Kelsey
Yes.
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Deion Sanders
I mean, arms hanging down to his knees, just. Just shredded, ripped. Just unbelievable. And he was going through something in this, like, crazy house or whatever they admitted him to in Chicago. And I said, jerry, I could help him. I could help him.
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
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Deion Sanders
He flew his jet to pick the kid up, brought him to the Cowboys and changed his life, man.
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Jason Kelsey
That's amazing.
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Deion Sanders
Helped change his life. And he ended up balling out for us, you know, signing another deal. Then he ended up. He had a decision whether to stay there or go to Detroit or New England somewhere. I think he chose Detroit. I don't know if it worked out, but change that kid's life, man. But that's the kind of guy Jerry was like, if you said, hey man, go get that dude, he could help us. Jerry was gonna go get him if he felt like he could help the team. That's the kind of cat Jerry was. That's the kind of guy you want.
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Travis Kelsey
To play for, man?
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Jason Kelsey
Yeah, absolutely.
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Deion Sanders
We wanted to win for him, zim and you know, the whole darn shebang, man. We just want. We had a great group of coaches. I love me some Barry. Switzerland. That was my dude, man. That was my dude. Barry gave me my first. Got me my first bass boat from Jerry riddle. He called me the office. I know, man. I heard you like fishing prime. I said, yeah, I do. He said, man, you go down now 35 and actually for Jerry rle. Tell him Barry sent you. Man. They gave me a 21 foot pro craft. I never forgot that day, man. I was stunned on the lake. I mean, stunned on the lake, man.
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Jason Kelsey
Like, how many you catch that day?
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Deion Sanders
I don't know.
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Jason Kelsey
But I look good, but it was.
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Deion Sanders
Good. That was my first time. I was a fly fisherman. I don't fly fish, but no, no, I was a fly fisherman.
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Jason Kelsey
Oh, there we go. There we go.
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Travis Kelsey
It's too good, man. Man, who was the one quarterback you love playing the most? Either out of respect or the fact that he just was silly enough to keep throwing the ball your way?
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Deion Sanders
Cat from the rams. The cat from the rams used to always have something for me, man. Oh, what was his name?
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Travis Kelsey
Jim Everett.
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Deion Sanders
Jim Everett. Whoever had a bow on that thing, he had a bow on that thing for me, man.
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Travis Kelsey
I gotta, I gotta. I got a good story. I don't know if it's mine to tell, but I'm gonna tell it. Andy Reid was telling me, I. I wear your shoes in the facility. I ride them at. Whenever we're on the field, we're not doing like anything uptempo and stuff like that. I'm always rocking your kicks. And he asked me, what are those, what are those shoes? And I told him, I was like, they're from. They're from the 90s. They're Deion Sanders diamond turfs. And he said, man, he just shook his head and he was like, you know, when we played him when he was in green bay coaching with Brett far, he was the quarterbacks coach. He said he told far before the game. He's like, listen, whatever you do, just not that side of the field. Just don't do it.
- [22:40]
Jason Kelsey
Just not that side.
- [22:41]
Travis Kelsey
Just don't do it. It's not even worth it. Just keep. Just Go over here.
- [22:44]
Deion Sanders
You'. Fine.
- [22:45]
Travis Kelsey
We'll be fine. He said within the first handful of plays, he tested the waters and he said he walked over to the sideline. He couldn't even look Brett in the face because you picked it up.
- [22:56]
Deion Sanders
There's a house call. But you got to understand why Brett tried me. Brett was my teammate in Atlanta.
- [23:01]
Travis Kelsey
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Rookie, rookie year.
- [23:03]
Deion Sanders
Brett, before he was traded to the balcony. The reason he was traded to Green Bay is because Brett used to tell the starting quarterback, Chris Miller at the time, hey, going out there and mess it up, I'll be in.
- [23:16]
Jason Kelsey
Oh.
- [23:19]
Deion Sanders
Serious, man, that was crazy, man. Brett. Brett was an unbelievable talent. We knew he was going to be a guy like his rookie year. He know what, you know, what was going on, where the ball was going. I just know he would just stop on the dime on the scout team and throw a rope 40 yards. Like, we knew he had it and they had to get him out of there because he was putting too much pressure on the starter. But we knew Brett was going to be that guy.
- [23:42]
Travis Kelsey
I'll tell you what, I kind of have a similar. Because Mahomes didn't play his rookie year either. He didn't play till the last game when we already knew we were. We had the. The playoff seed locked in. And man, though some of those scout team looks.
- [23:57]
Deion Sanders
Oh, my God.
- [23:58]
Travis Kelsey
Of him just running around, throwing it across it, we're like, man, I don't. This is. This is insane.
- [24:04]
Jason Kelsey
I don't know what we're doing here.
- [24:05]
Deion Sanders
This is.
- [24:06]
Travis Kelsey
This is the most incredible, like, way I've ever seen anybody play the game of football.
- [24:10]
Deion Sanders
Yeah.
- [24:11]
Travis Kelsey
And we're just like, there's no way he could do this in the game. He's got to be a little bit more polished. Sure enough, man, the first year he starts, man, 50 touchdowns, 5,000 yards, I'm just like, oh, no, he can.
- [24:20]
Jason Kelsey
He.
- [24:20]
Travis Kelsey
He's got the cajones to do it in the, in the NFL, too.
- [24:23]
Deion Sanders
I love Andy, man. I love your team and the whole makeup of it and, you know, those personalities, you know, I know once you start winning, winning, winning, you know, those personalities start being taken away from you and you got to try to replace it with and subsidize some of it. And it's tough. Both of you guys have dealt with that. But, yes, I love it, man. I just love what Andy Reid represents to the NFL, man. I've always have respected him tremendously, man.
- [24:51]
Travis Kelsey
I wouldn't be the same player I am right now if it wasn't for that guy.
- [24:54]
Deion Sanders
Yeah. You know, he showed love to Mike Big. That's one of the main reasons, because he, you know, he took your mic.
- [25:00]
Jason Kelsey
That was the first quarterback I ever snapped to in the NFL. I mean, that was wild.
- [25:03]
Travis Kelsey
I was about to say, I saw Jason taking snaps from Michael Vick. I'm just like, oh, this is really happening.
- [25:09]
Jason Kelsey
You go from the Cincinnati Bearcats to snapping it to Michael Vick. I was like, this is a little bit different.
- [25:15]
Deion Sanders
Wow.
- [25:16]
Jason Kelsey
Let me ask you this. You brought up personalities, those Cowboys teams, you, Michael, Irvin, Emmett, Troy. What would that team do in today's NFL? How would they fare against a Philadelphia Eagles 2024 Kansas City Chiefs team?
- [25:32]
Deion Sanders
I tell you what, man, it would have been a battle. I think I, I would always say, I think we would have won it because simply because that whole. During offensive line was Pro Bowlers, the whole line. Then you got the tight end, Jay Novich killing everybody, you know, like Kels. Then you got Mike doing what he did, EMT doing what he did. Then on the flip side, you got Charles Haley coming off that edge. I got this side, just put him on the other side and flush the quarterback, make him throw to me. So we, we. You know, we had that thing, Darren Woodson back there doing his thing. Leon let. I mean, it was, it was stag.
- [26:04]
Jason Kelsey
It was everywhere.
- [26:04]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, everywhere. It was crazy, man.
- [26:08]
Jason Kelsey
We just put on that clip of Larry Allen chasing down linebacker gets that inter. It's still the most impressive thing I've ever seen an offensive lineman do on the NFL field.
- [26:16]
Deion Sanders
Him working out was the most impressive thing I've seen him working out in the weight room.
- [26:20]
Jason Kelsey
There's that. There's that Pro bowl one where he's doing the bench press. I'm sure you've seen some even better ones.
- [26:25]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, man. But to see the way he worked in practice, I mean, it was. It was violent, man. It was. It was violent. Yeah, he was violent.
- [26:33]
Jason Kelsey
Do you think it's harder, easier to be a. A defensive back in today's game or.
- [26:37]
Deion Sanders
It depends on what type of defensive back you are. Like, if you defense back that they want to see play, they gonna ride with you.
- [26:45]
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, yeah.
- [26:46]
Deion Sanders
And understand I'm the only guy that swung on a man and didn't get thrown out of game.
- [26:50]
Jason Kelsey
There we go.
- [26:54]
Travis Kelsey
We gotta keep 2:1 in the game, man.
- [26:56]
Jason Kelsey
Gotta take care of our stars now.
- [26:58]
Deion Sanders
It would have been interesting. The game has changed so darn much and, you know, they want to see a lot of points scored, but also, you know, if you Stop. And you got to get the fourth. You gotta. You gotta punt it. You gotta throw it, man. You gotta punt it. You're gonna see me one way or another, or I jump on off as a place of office. You're gonna see me.
- [27:15]
Travis Kelsey
I love it, man.
- [27:16]
Jason Kelsey
Are there. Are there any, like, modern corners that impress, like, who. Who are the best in the game?
- [27:21]
Deion Sanders
Too much, man. I gotta study this college.
- [27:23]
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, you got. You got your hands full. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
- [27:26]
Deion Sanders
I like some old school cats, but I ain't.
- [27:28]
Jason Kelsey
Ain't.
- [27:28]
Deion Sanders
I don't have time to invest in like I used to, you know?
- [27:32]
Jason Kelsey
Sure.
- [27:32]
Deion Sanders
Yeah. To put in. I watched. You know, I watch Kelsey, he my dog, and he, you know, I want to see what dance he does after he scores. You know?
- [27:40]
Jason Kelsey
That's right.
- [27:41]
Travis Kelsey
I got a good one for you. Next one.
- [27:43]
Deion Sanders
See, I want to see him walk to the game. I want to see what he wearing, you know? Then I want to see what he do in the game. Then I want to see what he's wearing. Like, I want to see all that.
- [27:51]
Travis Kelsey
I work too hard not to have fun with the prime.
- [27:54]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, but you get it. Like, you get it. You get it. Tell me, when did you start getting it?
- [27:58]
Travis Kelsey
I would say I probably started. Started to really figure it out.
- [28:03]
Jason Kelsey
My.
- [28:04]
Travis Kelsey
My second year playing in the league, that's when I finally felt like I could. I. Like I belonged. And that's when I really started to get comfortable in my own skin. Man. I was always a guy that had fun doing what I wanted to do, but I didn't have the professionalism, that responsibility. I was telling you about why I didn't do dual sport. Once I started to be responsible in how I was conducting my professionalism, that's when I really started to get it.
- [28:27]
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, but you always had the fun with it. Even in high school, you was. You were always like that.
- [28:31]
Deion Sanders
But when. When did the personality come from even you? When did the personality come. How many linemen are on tv? Let's just get that straight.
- [28:39]
Jason Kelsey
Well, yeah, that's. That's. That's a unique thing. Yeah, it doesn't happen very often, but.
- [28:44]
Deion Sanders
Let'S just talk about it. All right? Let's just get that straight. Do you know how good you have to be to conquered alignment everywhere? No National Commercials.
- [28:57]
Travis Kelsey
101.
- [28:58]
Jason Kelsey
All right, fair enough, fair enough. But I don't got nothing nowhere near the personality. Trav does.
- [29:01]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, but when did it happen? But it had to kick in for you sometime. Like, you had to say, you know what? I got Some here. Like I. I got something. Yeah, Yeah.
- [29:10]
Jason Kelsey
I don't know. You playing with good players. The Sean McCoy, Sean Jackson, freaking. Yeah, it definitely manifests sticks on you for sure.
- [29:18]
Deion Sanders
How about both those guys coaching, man, and I love them to life, man. Like those are my guys. I talk to them all the time. I try to encourage them all the time. I'm so proud of them. I don't know what to do, man.
- [29:29]
Travis Kelsey
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- [29:35]
Jason Kelsey
Nice.
- [29:36]
Travis Kelsey
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- [29:46]
Jason Kelsey
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- [30:03]
Travis Kelsey
Wait a minute. Could Reese's Oreo cups be like the Kelsey Brothers of candy? Which one of us is Reese's and which one of us is Oreos?
- [30:11]
Jason Kelsey
Which one of us is Reese's and which one of us is Oreo?
- [30:14]
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
- [30:14]
Jason Kelsey
Are we talking about Oreo with peanut butter in the middle or Oreo with white in the middle?
- [30:17]
Travis Kelsey
Just regular Oreo.
- [30:19]
Jason Kelsey
I mean, I'm clearly Oreo. I'm a little bit darker.
- [30:24]
Travis Kelsey
You gotta love it. So grab these Reese's Oreo cups today, wherever candy is sold. Better yet, grab them right now or we're going to grab them first because they are seriously that good.
- [30:35]
Jason Kelsey
They are. And we wouldn't lie to you, they're.
- [30:38]
Deion Sanders
They're very good. Good.
- [30:40]
Jason Kelsey
Once again we need to shout out our partner DraftKings. All right, let's build some same game parlays for the people, Brandon.
- [30:48]
Brandon
All right, we've got Lions at Ravens, which is an incredible Monday Night Football matchup to cap off a solid week.
- [30:54]
Jason Kelsey
Football.
- [30:55]
Brandon
The Lions are underdogs going into Baltimore. The spread is five and a half in favor of the Ravens. Jason, what do you think?
- [31:03]
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, this is a tough one. Detroit looked dominant Week 2 after a shaky start in Green Bay. Starting to get their mojo back after Ben Johnson up and leaving them. Ravens look strong in a Week 1 loss to Buffalo and beat the brakes off of the Cleveland Browns.
- [31:19]
Brandon
Sorry about your Browns.
- [31:20]
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, I think this one seems like you go either way. Probably high scoring, but you never know.
- [31:25]
Brandon
Let's look at anytime touchdowns then. Amon Ross St. Brown is one of the most consistent wideouts in the league. The box is going to be loaded up to Stop. Jameer Gibbs and Dave Montgomery. How are we feeling about an Amanra St. Brown touchdown?
- [31:37]
Jason Kelsey
I would say I feel good about that.
- [31:39]
Brandon
Jake, why don't you take this next one?
- [31:41]
Jake
All right. So to me, this game comes down to the running game and Derrick Henry's Derek Henry, the Ravens rushing attack is dominant. They'll beat you with their running back. They'll beat you with their quarterback. I think if I'm the Lions, I'm going to be keying in on Lamar. So I think that Derrick Henry is going to be the one who gets into the end zone. How are we feeling about that?
- [31:59]
Deion Sanders
That?
- [31:59]
Brandon
Oh, I like that.
- [32:00]
Jason Kelsey
Feels pretty logical to me.
- [32:02]
Brandon
Big Derek Henry guy over here. All right, last one, Monday Night Football over or under 501 1/2 points. How are we feeling?
- [32:11]
Jason Kelsey
I think it's going to be over.
- [32:13]
Jake
Ooh, you know, the teams combined for 93 points last week and I think, yeah, you know, that's not bad. So a line of 51 is like, it's a fun over. You want like when the line set that high, you want to be rooting for points. So I like the over year.
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Brandon
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- [33:38]
Jason Kelsey
All right, we're going to get to this next section. It's called we gotta ask. All right.
- [33:42]
Deion Sanders
Okay. I'mma ask back, too. I'mma ask back. I just want y'. All.
- [33:45]
Jason Kelsey
You were the first athlete to hit a home run and score a touchdown in the same week, which.
- [33:50]
Deion Sanders
Which was harder hit hitting that curveball. Oh, yeah. Yes.
- [33:56]
Jason Kelsey
I think it's got to be the hardest thing in sports, right?
- [33:58]
Deion Sanders
It is.
- [33:59]
Jason Kelsey
Hitting.
- [34:00]
Deion Sanders
It is. It is. Yes. Consistently. I want consistent with it, but hitting it. Yeah, that was the. That was the toughest thing ever.
- [34:06]
Jason Kelsey
Got it. All right.
- [34:06]
Travis Kelsey
What sports did you love the most, Brian?
- [34:08]
Deion Sanders
Football. I could roll out of bed and do that. I can roll out of bed and do that. I remember we lost in the playoffs on a Wednesday night. We had a Thursday night football game. I remember calling my. He's passed away now, Whitey Zimmerman. I said, whitey, get it ready, baby. Get it ready. Get it ready. He said, step ahead of you. We was playing the Rams, Los Angeles Rams, that Thursday night, and I played that game. I didn't even know half the team. I remember going out there and starting, and they was tearing this other corner up. I don't even know who it was. I said, look at, man, get out.
- [34:37]
Jason Kelsey
Right?
- [34:37]
Deion Sanders
You. I just pointed to the guy on the sideline. You get in, call cover two, kick to him. I got my side on the backside. We good. That's how we gonna do this.
- [34:45]
Jason Kelsey
So good running it, man.
- [34:47]
Travis Kelsey
I love this.
- [34:48]
Jason Kelsey
All right. There's a myth that the NFL combine, you literally ran the 40 and kept running until you were out of the building.
- [34:54]
Deion Sanders
That's not.
- [34:55]
Jason Kelsey
Is this a myth? It's not true.
- [34:56]
Deion Sanders
No, that's not true.
- [34:57]
Jason Kelsey
I thought that was true.
- [34:58]
Deion Sanders
No. I ran a photo for breakfast, but the rest of one true.
- [35:04]
Jason Kelsey
Man, that's one of my favorites.
- [35:09]
Deion Sanders
Now, the bench press part, I was in there, engaged in a good conversation, and they had, okay, they do the bench press. And they said, sanders. And I still was in this conversation. Sanders. I said, no, no, no, no, no. Him. Ain't nobody gonna lay cross my hands and let me bench press them in. I'm good. I didn't do that.
- [35:28]
Jason Kelsey
Got nothing to do with me.
- [35:30]
Deion Sanders
That's what. She's good.
- [35:31]
Jason Kelsey
Another true or false. Didn't finish his Giants interview because they had the 10th pick.
- [35:36]
Deion Sanders
Yeah.
- [35:36]
Jason Kelsey
And he'd be gone by then. Is that true?
- [35:38]
Deion Sanders
That's true. That's probably why they did with my son. But anyway, we're going. We ain't gonna talk about that.
- [35:42]
Jason Kelsey
All right. We don't even need to get there.
- [35:44]
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was more of your signature, your high stakes step to the end zone or the strut when you got in the end zone? The dance when you got in the end zone?
- [35:54]
Deion Sanders
I think the high step to the house.
- [35:56]
Jason Kelsey
The high step is what I think of for sure.
- [35:58]
Travis Kelsey
The fact that you could do that running 22 miles per hour high stepping like that. I'm still mind blown because every time I try and high step, I. I drop back to about 15 miles per hour. Yeah, I like. I'm getting slower. It looks like you're going faster.
- [36:13]
Deion Sanders
You're looking for the look. You look good though, doing it. You look good though, doing it, though. That's the thing.
- [36:18]
Jason Kelsey
Well, how many times is that been replicated? Like, I just think every player has tried, has done the high step since then. To try and replicate it like that is just such an iconic moment of NFL history. That's the first thing I think of. That's for dang sure.
- [36:32]
Travis Kelsey
We got to get Jason high stepping, man.
- [36:34]
Jason Kelsey
I can't listen. These hammies can't high step. That ain't in my. My hamstrings. I wish I could. Is it true that your name is actually spelled Dion? D I, O S on your birth certificate? According to.
- [36:47]
Deion Sanders
Where you guys getting this stuff from?
- [36:49]
Jason Kelsey
We got some good research. We got some good researchers. That's true.
- [36:53]
Deion Sanders
It's true. Wow. But let me tell you what I did. Going to school, learning how to spell.
- [36:59]
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
- [37:00]
Deion Sanders
And we all learned the song. If I say the first part, you got to finish the second part. Old McDonald had a farm. E, I, O. Oh, yes.
- [37:11]
Jason Kelsey
E, I, E, I, E, E I, O.
- [37:15]
Deion Sanders
So it was D E, I, O, N. I got it from Old McDonald.
- [37:21]
Travis Kelsey
What is it still that?
- [37:24]
Deion Sanders
That's the way I spell it on my birth certificate is D I, O, N. But I've always spelled it D E I, O, N. There you go.
- [37:31]
Jason Kelsey
You know how bad you got to be to just change your name and people just go along with it? They just. Right here, Mr. Sanders.
- [37:38]
Deion Sanders
That's so good.
- [37:39]
Travis Kelsey
We had. We had our guy Jo. That's Jake, who worked with you at NFL Network a little bit. He was the one that gave us the intel on that one.
- [37:46]
Deion Sanders
Oh, no, that's a good one. That's.
- [37:49]
Travis Kelsey
That's real. Oh, he was nicknamed Turtle. You might know him as Turtle.
- [37:52]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, no, Turtle. Turtle was awesome. Turtle. We got.
- [37:59]
Travis Kelsey
We got Turtle on the squad.
- [38:01]
Deion Sanders
Oh, man, you got some big time guys, man. Turtle was awesome, man. Turtle. We got some good memories, Doby. Turtle.
- [38:06]
Jason Kelsey
Oh, here we Go. Turtle's popping in. Hey, Prom.
- [38:08]
Deion Sanders
Oh, my.
- [38:09]
Jason Kelsey
Hey. I just wanted. How's it going? Good to see you.
- [38:17]
Deion Sanders
You know what I'm talking about, Mrs. Turtle. Mama. Turtle. We got some good memories.
- [38:21]
Jake
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
- [38:23]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, we got some good memories. I didn't forget. Oh, I didn't forget either.
- [38:27]
Jake
Prime, I gave you a lot of love when we were talking in our production meeting, so I appreciate the shout out, Turtle.
- [38:32]
Deion Sanders
You've been a good man for a long time, man. I'm glad you see these champs, man. These guys are awesome, man.
- [38:37]
Jake
Dude, three of my favorite people on one right here. It's the best.
- [38:41]
Deion Sanders
I'm honored. I'm honored.
- [38:42]
Jake
Thanks, Prime. I appreciate it.
- [38:44]
Deion Sanders
That's amazing.
- [38:45]
Travis Kelsey
Coach, whose idea was it for the bandana on the hall of Fame bus?
- [38:49]
Deion Sanders
Mine.
- [38:52]
Travis Kelsey
It's iconic.
- [38:53]
Deion Sanders
This is how the bandana started. Cursing was a wristband. I had a curl when I played Florida State and yeah, it activated. Used to drip down to get in your eyes. So I put a headband on my head, but when I put my helmet on, the headband slipped down and that's when I started rocking the thing around the neck. That was about mistake. That wasn't.
- [39:13]
Jason Kelsey
Oh, my gosh.
- [39:15]
Travis Kelsey
Everyone rocks that look.
- [39:18]
Deion Sanders
Everybody rocks that look by mistake. Then I started putting the headband around it because. So it'll hold up, but that was by mistake. The headband around the neck, that was for the curl and it just slid.
- [39:29]
Travis Kelsey
Down all by mistake. Swagger just happens by mistake.
- [39:32]
Jason Kelsey
He can't.
- [39:32]
Travis Kelsey
The guy can't make any mistakes.
- [39:34]
Deion Sanders
It just happens.
- [39:36]
Jason Kelsey
All right, you hold the NFL record for career return touchdowns with 19. Nine interceptions, six punt, three kickoff and a fumble. Which one is your favorite? Ooh, do you have one?
- [39:49]
Deion Sanders
You got.
- [39:49]
Travis Kelsey
You got a favorite? Yeah. Turn for a touchdown.
- [39:51]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How's it called in Atlanta?
- [39:54]
Jason Kelsey
There we go.
- [39:55]
Deion Sanders
How's it going, Atlanta? Because we was on the plane and I studied so darn much and I got this big. That's back when we had to carry this big bch. Bch thing, you know, because you didn't have a little party. You had to have the big oh, my God, watching on the plane game. And I said, I know these guys like a book. I know these guys like a book. And, you know, I was setting them up. I backed off. I said, they should throw a little five yard hitch. They threw a hitch. I went and bumped. I said, they should throw a fade. Trying to fade. I said, okay, I got him, I got him. We got back down to the 10 yard line. They ran a flood route off size. They lined up, ran it again. Offsize defense that time. So they went back to the same spot. I cannot believe they ran it. They got in the same formation trips again, trips to the field. I put my back to the sideline, which I never do, and I squatted down real low and they ran that flood and I jumped it. But on the plane, I had told Carmen Policy and the late Dwight Clark. I said, I'm gonna pick one off and I'm a high step them and I'm gonna look at the bench and I'm gonna smile. Oh, my God. He did exactly that. I'm not lying. I'm like, God, thank you so much. Gave it to me the same way. I said it would happen.
- [41:08]
Jason Kelsey
Happened.
- [41:08]
Deion Sanders
I said, I'm g. Look at their pensions. I step them. Because it was, you know, it was a lot of little animosity. I was going back to the player. My former teammates was hating on me a little bit.
- [41:17]
Jason Kelsey
Okay, okay.
- [41:18]
Travis Kelsey
Well, that's too funny, man.
- [41:20]
Jason Kelsey
I can't believe it was all so pre planned and meticulous like that. That's crazy, man.
- [41:23]
Deion Sanders
You know that study. That's steady. That's steady. Yeah. That's preparation. That's all that is.
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Travis Kelsey
We know about all the success and all the unbelievable plays like the one you just mentioned right there. For the last question we got for you, Prime. What was your welcome to the NFL moment?
- [41:39]
Deion Sanders
God, what was the welcome to the NFL moment? You mean something negative?
- [41:45]
Jason Kelsey
Honestly, it doesn't have to be.
- [41:47]
Travis Kelsey
It doesn't have to be.
- [41:48]
Deion Sanders
Yeah, Like, I didn't have negative moments like welcome to the NFL. My welcome to the NFL moment was housing that thing on the first game I played in against the Rams.
- [41:57]
Jason Kelsey
That's a hell of a welcome. That's a good one.
- [42:00]
Deion Sanders
I mean, and you drop. I dropped it, picked it up and housed it. And I can remember going to downtown to the mall back then when we used to go to the mall. And I bought 11 Gucci watches. I bought 11 Gucci watches for the whole punt return team.
- [42:21]
Travis Kelsey
Special teams. Oh, man, this is electric.
- [42:24]
Deion Sanders
Including the coach. Including the special teams coach. And I wrote on the card, every fourth down. I just wanted y' all to know what time it was.
- [42:35]
Travis Kelsey
That is so good, bro.
- [42:38]
Deion Sanders
I gave it to him the next day. I want you to know what time it was.
- [42:42]
Jason Kelsey
Hey, you might be the only person that there. It doesn't sound like there was an NFL welcome moment for Neon Dion. It was a welcome to Neon Dion. For the NFL after that sort of way.
- [42:52]
Travis Kelsey
Welcome to prime, baby.
- [42:54]
Deion Sanders
Baby. I had just got there a few days before because I was swinging. Yeah. I had just got this with the Yankees. I had just got there three days before, man.
- [43:03]
Travis Kelsey
That's electric, man.
- [43:04]
Jason Kelsey
So good. So good.
- [43:05]
Travis Kelsey
I love you, big guy.
- [43:06]
Deion Sanders
Thank you for being on you. I love you.
- [43:09]
Travis Kelsey
Just instilling so much confidence and. And so much of your hard work and how you do things, your walk, your talk, how you. How you played the game. Man, I can't thank you enough. From a kid in the 90s, from the swag to the glasses to everything, man.
- [43:24]
Jason Kelsey
Keep doing.
- [43:25]
Travis Kelsey
You always watching you on Saturdays now. Just like. Like I was on Sundays, man. And good luck this week. Who you got? You guys got Wyoming coming up, right?
- [43:33]
Deion Sanders
Yeah. I appreciate y', all, man, for keeping it.
- [43:35]
Travis Kelsey
Go ahead and get after this thing.
- [43:37]
Deion Sanders
To another level, what y' all have done and just putting alignment on the map, putting a tight end on the map and just being the family man and keeping that family, man. I love it. I love it.
- [43:49]
Jason Kelsey
Yes.
- [43:49]
Deion Sanders
And you guys have been good to me. You've been good to my kids. You stood up for and gave him love when you know what time it is. But I appreciate y', all, man, and I love you for it. You know that.
- [43:58]
Travis Kelsey
You're the best.
- [43:59]
Jason Kelsey
Thanks.
- [43:59]
Travis Kelsey
You're the best coach. Good luck the rest of the season. Thank you doing it, baby.
- [44:02]
Deion Sanders
You already know. All right.
- [44:04]
Jason Kelsey
All right. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you so much to our guests, Coach Prime, Deion Sanders. My God, man, that was a good one. Make sure you subscribe to the new Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights in the Wonder reality app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of new Heights early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts.
- [44:28]
Travis Kelsey
Very nicely said, Jason. Once again, new heights of Wondery show brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups.
- [44:34]
Jason Kelsey
Just.
- [44:34]
Travis Kelsey
Just go down to the corner store, to the gas station, wherever you get your candy and get you some of these, man. The peanut butter cups and the oreo.
- [44:42]
Jason Kelsey
God damn it.
- [44:44]
Deion Sanders
Amazing.
- [44:44]
Travis Kelsey
Follow the show on all social media at new height show with 1s. Thanks to the new heist production team for always making us look a whole lot better. Big shout out to Turtle and thank you again to the 92 percenters and prime time himself, man. Me and you both, baby. Let's get back on the wind train right now.
- [44:59]
Jason Kelsey
Let's go, let's go. Come on now. Hey.
- [45:14]
Deion Sanders
Oh, hello. It's.
- [45:18]
Travis Kelsey
Sweetie, let me call you back. Money's on the. Money's on the line. We got money on the line right now, and I can't.
- [45:26]
Jason Kelsey
What?
- [45:26]
Travis Kelsey
It is quite bad.
- [45:27]
Deion Sanders
Come on, baby, check it out. Let's go.
- [45:31]
Travis Kelsey
Prime.
- [45:32]
Jason Kelsey
Coach Prime.
- [45:33]
Deion Sanders
I feel like I'm famous now. I'm with the Kelsey brothers, man. I'm. I'm. I made it. I made it. Call my mama till I made it.
- [45:39]
Travis Kelsey
You been trying to get on your level since the 90s, baby.
- [45:43]
Jason Kelsey
Hell, yeah. This is amazing.