Every Chief's Gotta Eat, NFL Meatheads & Keanu Reeves on Comedy Dangers, Life Advice & More | EP 160

Summary

New Heights Ep. 160: "Every Chief's Gotta Eat, NFL Meatheads & Keanu Reeves on Comedy Dangers, Life Advice & More"

Release Date: October 15, 2025
Hosts: Jason Kelce & Travis Kelce | Guest: Keanu Reeves

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features brothers Jason and Travis Kelce breaking down the latest NFL headlines, dishing out locker room laughs, and welcoming movie icon Keanu Reeves. The Kelces recap the Chiefs’ big Sunday Night win, diagnose the Eagles’ woes, riff on “NFL Meatheads,” debate the meaning of sustained excellence, and dive into a wide-ranging, candid, and funny interview with Keanu Reeves about his new movie “Good Fortune,” life, sports, and the philosophy of being “excellent to each other.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chiefs vs. Lions: Big Win Breakdown

[07:19–15:51]

• Chiefs’ 30-17 win over the Lions led off the football talk. Travis beams about “four quarters of great football, man. All three phases... the energy right now is electric, one of the most fun teams I’ve ever been on.” [08:03]
• Defensive adjustments at halftime were crucial. Jason notes, "The defense... tried to make them [Lions] earn it the entire time. And they had a couple big fourth down stops." [09:10]
• Chiefs’ offense “looks back, baby.” Emphasis on the physical, efficient run game: “It's like it just feeds those big guys up front, it gets them going...” (Travis) [11:08]
• Chiefs spread the ball: “Everybody gotta eat, baby” – the “EDGE” motto in the KC locker room. [13:56]
• Travis on milestone: passes Jason Witten for 2nd-most prime time receiving yards for a tight end, only trailing Jerry Rice overall. [15:21]
• Memorable moment: Travis describes a play: “I get hit by one guy, slide off him, get pinballed... just bracing for the stampede from my linemen coming to clean up.” [17:01]
• Jason’s playful jab: “God damn it, Travis, you’re on the one yard line. Get in the end zone, stop jumping!” [18:36]

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2. Chiefs’ Offense and Team Vibes

[12:28–15:51]

• Pat Mahomes is “spreading that ball around... Seven, eight, nine guys in the receptions category every week.” [14:07]
• Coach Reed and OC Matt Nagy praised for keeping the offense multiple and fast.
• Chiefs’ locker room spirit high, especially with receiver Rashee Rice returning from suspension. Travis: “He’s one of my favorite teammates... excited for him to get back.” [29:06]

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3. Eagles’ Loss & The Woes of Expectations

[36:34–47:30]

• Jason lamented the Eagles’ 34-17 loss to the Giants: “It’s a frustrating thing to watch... sometimes it’s really clicking, other halves, it just feels like it’s all or nothing.” [37:13]
• On team vibes: “Stout says this a lot: Execution fuels emotion. When it’s not going well, it’s hard to have that.” [39:11]
• Enthusiasm in NFL: Praises Giants’ “youthful energy,” particularly rookie QB Jackson Dart and RB Cam Scadaboo, who bring “true meathead energy” to the team: “the entire team has been energized... every team needs that guy.” [50:12]
• Reflection on expectations: “Sustained excellence in any field is incredibly fucking hard... anybody can have one great season – the challenge is repeating it.” (Jason) [44:42]

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4. Around the NFL: Surprises & Struggles

[55:21–66:48]

• Dolphins “might be cooked,” says Travis. Team issues noted (late/missing players-only meetings). “If the players aren’t showing up, is it just the janitor in there?” (Jason) [56:07]
• The Jets’ misery gets a guest spot from “Jets Jake”: “It’s all really bad... the offense can’t do anything. They’re 0-6, but maybe, just maybe, next week versus Carolina.” [59:36]
• Who’s for real? The league feels wide open: “Feels like it’s wide open,” says Travis. [62:54]
• Coach of the year? Jason gives it to Patriots HC Mike Vrabel (“biggest surprise”); Travis (biased) stumps for Andy Reid. [66:04]
• Early MVP: “It’s a clear runaway... Baker Mayfield.” (Jason) [66:53]

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5. Pop Culture & Listener Moments

[05:06–07:15], [16:14–16:20]

• Ongoing inside joke: Jason’s “official tree” is now the Japanese maple, and listeners are tagging him in any such sightings.
• Chiefs and Eagles fandoms acknowledged for their deep engagement; “Film Club” on “The Replacements” (with Keanu Reeves) teased for Friday drop.

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6. Keanu Reeves Guest Interview

[77:01–108:46]

a. On New Movie "Good Fortune" & Working with Aziz Ansari

• Keanu describes the premise: “an angel comes down trying to do better... swaps a guy who's having a hard time for a venture capitalist. But unlike the usual, it turns out money does make a difference.” [78:25]
• Aziz Ansari was “collaborative... really invited me into the process.”
• On the movie’s message: “It’s not just about hope, but practical things – friendship, connection, laughter, heart.” [80:29]
• Keanu reflects on his earthly persona: “You seem the most, like, down to earth. Like, you are with the people.” (Jason) [80:01]

b. Comedy, Physicality, and Life Philosophy

• On returning to comedy: “John Wick’s got some humor, but it’s not a comedy… Az wanted a little bit of that Bill & Ted energy again.” [82:28, 83:58]
• Keanu on food scenes: “Hamburger, chicken nuggies. And that was fun.” [79:57]
• Would Keanu be a good angel in life? “If I put my mind to it, I think I would.” [81:42]
• What life would he swap into? “Oh my gosh, I’m just trying to make it work in this one.” [85:20] But Keanu dreams of “one of those zone moments, like being Usain Bolt breaking a world record, or scoring in the Olympics.”
• Youth hockey experience: He was a goalie, “good glove hand, fast reflexes, positionally sound,” and detailed the evolution in style from stand-up to butterfly. [89:46]

c. On the Matrix, Reality, and AI

• “Do you think we’ve learned anything from the Matrix?” the hosts ask. Keanu: “It doesn’t seem like we can help ourselves. If we can do it, we do it... Sometimes we don’t know what we’re doing.” [95:13]
• His view on reality: “Matrix gives a lot of weight to reality… I was once asked to explain the plot to a 13-year-old, and they said, ‘Who cares if it’s real?’” [95:54]

d. On Stunts, Acting, Injuries

• “If I’m doing it, it’s not a stunt. If I’m not there, it’s a stunt.” (Keanu, on action roles) [97:20]
• He injured his knee, “vertical break” of the kneecap, while filming his latest movie, ironically doing something mundane, not a wild stunt. “Comedy is hard!” [98:44]

e. Hollywood Origins and Advice

• “Welcome to Hollywood” story: Almost changed his name when he moved to LA – “Chuck Spadina” or “Casey Reeves” – but didn’t stick. [105:02]
• Best life advice: “Just get some rest.” [103:13]
• Favorite Keanu quote: “‘Be excellent to each other’ – that’s a good way to go about life, man.” [93:48]
• On sports fandom: As a kid, Steelers fan. Also admired Joe Montana and the 49ers. [107:11]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Travis on the Chiefs’ offense: “Everybody gotta eat, baby.” [13:56]
• Jason on expectations: “Sustained excellence in the highest level of any profession is incredibly fucking hard.” [44:42]
• Travis on team energy: “You gotta have a psycho, man. You gotta have a 1 or 2 or 3 or 4. You gotta have a few, man.” [53:25]
• Jason on the Eagles’ struggles: “Stout says this a lot: Execution fuels emotion... when it’s not going well, it’s hard to have that.” [39:11]
• Keanu Reeves on “Good Fortune”: “It’s about friendship, it’s about connection, it’s about laughter, it’s about heart.” [80:29]
• Keanu on philosophical lessons: “Matrix gives a lot of weight to reality... and a lot of power to that question: what is real?” [95:54]
• Keanu (on favorite advice): "Just get some rest." [103:13]
• On his brief stint as “Casey Reeves”: “I couldn’t do it. In auditions, they’d go ‘Casey Reeves,’ and I wouldn’t even answer.” [105:53]
• Jason on Keanu: "You seem the most, like, down to earth. Like, you are with the people." [80:01]
• Keanu on himself in sports: "I grew up playing hockey... goalie. Good glove hand, fast reflexes, positionally sound." [89:46]
• On the wildest part of 'Replacements': "No, they were all like, don't hit the guy... For the reason that we all have a job." [111:43]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:30 – Chaotic open, intro, and schedule preview
• 05:06 – Listener tree jokes, Japanese maple saga
• 07:19 – Recap: Chiefs vs. Lions
• 13:54 – Chiefs receivers and “Everybody Gotta Eat”
• 16:14 – Travis prime time stats, passing Jason Witten
• 29:06 – Rashee Rice returns; Chiefs’ offense outlook
• 36:34 – Eagles lose to Giants; struggles and team energy
• 39:11 – “Execution fuels emotion” and team mentality
• 50:12 – NFL ‘meathead’ energy and why teams need psychos
• 55:21 – Dolphins woes, Jets chat with “Jets Jake”
• 62:52 – Who’s good?/League parity/Surprises
• 66:04 – Coach of the Year and MVP argument
• 77:01 – Keanu Reeves joins: “Good Fortune,” comedy, and life
• 89:46 – Goalie talk, old school hockey
• 95:13 – The Matrix, AI, and deeper philosophical questions
• 97:20 – Stunts & injuries (and why comedy is dangerous!)
• 105:02 – Hollywood beginnings & “Casey Reeves” story
• 103:13 – Keanu’s life advice: “Get some rest”
• 107:11 – Keanu’s fandom: Steelers, Joe Montana, sports culture

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Signature brotherly camaraderie, irreverent and candid banter
• A mix of genuine camaraderie and football expertise (“meathead” humor aplenty)
• Keanu brings humility, insight, and a quietly profound vibe to the celebrity segment

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For Listeners Who Haven't Tuned In

This episode captures everything New Heights fans love: inside-the-huddle breakdowns, trophy and tree jokes, playful NFL hot takes, and an unfiltered, joyous, and multifaceted conversation with Keanu Reeves. Whether you want to know the mood inside the Chiefs’ locker room, the recipe for team motivation, why football still needs its “psychos,” or what “be excellent to each other” can mean in a world of deepfakes and hustle, Ep. 160 has you covered. Don’t miss Keanu’s passionate hockey stories, offbeat advice, and heartfelt banter with the Kelce brothers.

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Transcript

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

All right, you want me to do this?

[Jason Kelsey]

Are we supposed to do a podcast? There something in my hair? What's in my hair? Suspended my hair the whole time. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

I thought they were. You were doing that on purpose. Welcome back to new heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wonder show brought to you by WhatsApp. That's right, the the app that you can talk to anybody, anywhere, from anywhere. And that's WhatsApp. We are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey, is my big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, and University of Cincinnati alum and doggone, those Bearcats are rolling.

[Jason Kelsey]

Rolling, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're UC20, UCF11. I'm not even sure who we got coming up this week, but the Big 12 is on and popping.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oklahoma State.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oklahoma State, that's right. Yeah, they're in Oklahoma State, man. That's another Tough one, man. Big 12, baby. So good luck, cats. Keep rolling. Subscribe on YouTube Wonder plus wherever you get your podcast to follow the show on all social media at new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. And Jason, please tell these wonderful 92 percenters, our new listeners, what we have coming up this week.

[Jason Kelsey]

92 percenters, we've got another great episode right now. We're going to recap with the Chief's big win over the lines of Sunday night, maybe the worst day in Philadelphia sports history, as well as Keanu Reeves coming on the show. That's right, the one, the only Neo is in the house. You kidding me? It's crazy. I don't know how we keep getting these guys, but he is. We're going to talk about his new movie, good Fortune coming up, as well as him being the best, nicest person of all time in Hollywood. Either way, let's get into some new new news. In case you missed it, we dropped our episode with the Rock this Monday. Go check it out. If you haven't seen it. Do you have a favorite part of the episode?

[Travis Kelsey]

Travel man. Just him talking about his favorite line that he ever like him talking about. He's you take that, you turn it sideways and shove it up right up.

[Jason Kelsey]

Your candy is so good. That was a good part.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was a good part. And just hearing him talk about his, his family and his and how just humble he is, man, he's just the best.

[Jason Kelsey]

For those of you that missed it, it is out on the New Heights channel, YouTube and on Spotify. Wherever you get your podcast, you can check that out. It's out. It was out Monday. We're also this week going to be bringing back New Heights Film Club in honor of Keanu Reeves. We will be revisiting the classic film the Replacements that is going to drop this Friday. So tune into that if you are as big of a fan of that film as we are or just like Keanu Reeves. The biggest piece of new news, New heights might have an official tree.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm sorry, what?

[Jason Kelsey]

We are now being tagged in video. Anytime a 92 percenter sees a Japanese maple tree. We being tagged or is Jason being tagged? Jason is being tagged.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ooh, Lego.

[Jason Kelsey]

Lego. A Lego Japanese maple. I didn't know those existed. They make Lego trees? Do they make Lego redwoods?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think they only make Japanese maple. Listen, they only trying to rope me into your. This is you, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm fine ornamental. I'm. I'm a good. Everybody loves a good Japanese maple.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm going to get Wyatt this Lego set.

[Jason Kelsey]

Other than maybe like a ecologist. All right, what's this link? We got a voicemail from somebody. Can we open this up, Brandon? Let's see what they're talking about.

[Travis Kelsey]

What we got?

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Hi, I'm calling on behalf of the.

[Jason Kelsey]

Larger community of 92 percenters who are wondering whether or not big Japanese maple has reached out to Jason about becoming the face of the big Japanese. It seems like a no brainer to.

[Rakuten Advertiser]

Me.

[Jason Kelsey]

If he's getting, you know, fielding any offers from them. All right, love you guys.

[Rakuten Advertiser]

Bye.

[Travis Kelsey]

Fielding any offers?

[Jason Kelsey]

I have not. I don't know that there is a big Japanese maple. I don't think. I don't. I mean, maybe there is. I don't. I'm not aware of the people really pushing Japanese maple. I feel like that tree is not as pushed upon as some other ones these days.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know Japanese maple. So unique though. What is why Kylie loves them? What?

[Jason Kelsey]

That they're not like a part of the big industry of agriculture? Yeah, it's not. It's horticulture, right? Or it's. Is it forestry? Arbery Arbori. I don't know what fucking industry we're talking about, but no, nobody's reached out. Kylie always loves a good Japanese maple, which is all I need, so.

[Travis Kelsey]

It'S so good. Please continue to tag us in any and all trees that remind you of Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yep.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, that wraps up little new news.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's get into some bold topics to wrap up this week six in the NFL. Bulldozers brought to you by raising canes. Chicken fingers. Who doesn't love fucking chicken fingers in that raising cane sauce? I don't even know what it's called, but you know what I'm talking about. All right. Chiefs 30, Lions 17. Sunday Night Football. Listen, this was a game that I think the entire country was looking forward to watching. Lions, obviously start off the season a little sluggish against the packers, but they had been really kicking ass and taking names the last few weeks. Facing off against the Chiefs, who had really started to find the rhythm. Even though they lost the previous week, that offense was turning around. Give us your thoughts, Travis. Initial thoughts on the game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Four quarters of great football, man. All three phases. It looked like in the second half they, they were shutting down the run run and, and getting to the quarterback. And we haven't had, you know, or at least a lot of people have been saying we haven't been able to get to the quarterback. My guy Charles, at men who gets in there. Chris Jones is getting after him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

And it's just the DBs are all, you know, lockdown coverage where they need to be and you know, when the defense is playing like that and Pat Mahomes is out here, Texas gunslinger, just, just shooting it all over the field, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

The best, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's the best. And we were, we were rocking and rolling. Had a few big plays on special teams that, that got us going and that's a, that's a tough Lions team. And I felt like we got, we got after him in the run game and in the past game and, and guys were downfield blocking for each other, man. The energy right now in the building is electric, man. And it's some of the. One of the most fun teams I've ever been on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, that was, you know, watching it. You talk about all three phases competing and doing great for all four quarters. The defense was. Detroit came out running that thing. They were, they were doing a great job. They put together a great first drive. But you're right, the defense adjusted. They kept fighting. They freaking. Nothing really came easy. And I think a lot of times the Lions get these big, huge, explosive plays and the defense tried to make them earn it the entire time. And they had a couple big fourth down stops. They, they. They had a. The second half, it felt like they neutralized the running game a little bit better than they did in the first half. Nick Bolton mentioned potentially having some tips. Like, it felt like they kind of had a little. I don't know if we should mention that. Should we not mention that?

[Travis Kelsey]

It sounds like they, they were. Yeah, it sounds like the.

[Jason Kelsey]

They had a good idea what was happening.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that sounds like they. And that's the thing when you, when you're with Spags, you got smart players, man. You're gonna, you're gonna see these. Whatever they are, these little ticks or these certain things that, that an offense is doing where, you know, if. If they want to keep doing them, we're gonna. We're gonna be able to get ahead of them.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's talk about the Chiefs offense, because that was the thing that I think everybody had wanted to talk about through the first, what, three weeks of the season. And as of the last three weeks, the Chiefs offense looks back. Baby, you guys are doing everything well. And the one thing that I think stood out about this game in particular was the ability to run the football. It wasn't like a. It wasn't like a Rico Dowdle, like, unbelievable running like day for the Chiefs, but it was a consistent, efficient threat that you guys imposed your will. I mean, this is a team we talk. I mean, kneecap biting, like, nose team.

[Travis Kelsey]

They were hitting and you guys. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Took it right at it with them, man. It was a. That first half, I mean, you guys are both running the ball really efficiently, imposing your will on each other. It was a physical game. Like, I think the first half went by, like, in a flash.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like before. I know it. First quarter was over. Like, it was nuts. Yeah, I. That's got to feel good, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, you get rolling and especially in the run game, man, it's just. It's like it just feeds those big guys up front. It just feeds them. It gets them going. It gets them playing a little bit tough. You know, you start working some double teams and they don't feel like they're just sitting on an island past pro and. And you know, they can. You can. You can get these big 300 pounders on the attack and downhill and moving forward and getting after guys, trying to demoralize them mentally and physically. And it's just like we got. We got our interior 3 playing so physical and so well together right now with Kingsley.

[Jason Kelsey]

And Kingsley's coming on, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

And. Yeah, exactly. And Trey Smith. And then on top of that, Juwan Taylor's playing outstanding. We had. We had a. Jaylen Moore steps up. Jaylen Moore steps up and has a fucking Aiden Hutchinson.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a big task, baby. And he answered the bell, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell, yeah. And I just feel like when those guys up front are, Are, Are. Are rolling like that, man, it just makes everybody play that much more confident. You know, Pat's not thinking as much about the. The line. You know, he's. He's seeing the field so clear right now and getting the ball out quick.

[Jason Kelsey]

You stay out of situations that are hard to pick. Like third and long is hard in the league. You know what I mean? Like, it was Interesting, because the previous two weeks and really three weeks, you guys had started to really hit the big play down the field, and that's one way to stress a defense.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

In this game, I mean, that really didn't happen. You took a couple shots, but really the way you stressed them was by running right at him. Yeah, Right. And then that got the play action going. That got. It got you in good situations where you could do the quick passes. You got a bunch of them where it was like, even before the snap, like Pat knew he was going to catch and deliver it right to you. Yeah. And I just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I think. I think that's a huge. You know, you got to throw it to Coach Reed and Matt Nagy on the offensive side that are. That are calling these plays and put these plays in to give us an opportunity. Just go out there and just play quick.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Play fast, play field. Make them feel the. The attention to detail and the alertness that we're playing with. And I think. I think we're rolling like that. And Pat's getting it to everybody right now. You know, everybody's getting a chance to have the football in their hands and everybody's satisfied. And it's going to have to even be more of that now that we're getting Rashid coming back next week. But it's.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's just so much fun when everybody's getting a piece of the pie, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, man. Vibes look like they're pretty darn good for the Chiefs. A hell of a lot better than they were maybe three weeks ago or four weeks ago. We got some stats, I guess here. The Chiefs are one of just two teams to feature four players with 220 plus receiving yards this year. Travis Kelsey, Hollywood Brown, tyquan Thornton, and juju Smith schuster. All over 220 yards. That's a very specific yardage. Travis, can you explain Edge?

[Travis Kelsey]

It is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Can you explain the EDGE motto?

[Travis Kelsey]

Everybody gotta eat, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

E, G, E. Everybody gotta eat. Okay.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think. I think Rasheed might have started that one and it might have been a little, you know, sneak preview on what's going to come.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I mean, listen, Pat does it better than everybody. You. It's. Folks, so I'm watching this Atlanta game on Monday night, and it's pretty much Drake London and Bijan Robinson. Like, listen, if you got those two guys, I probably just give them the ball, too. Like, I don't know what we're doing anything else for, but you look at a chief stat line and every week it feels like Seven, eight, nine guys are in this reception category. And it's like, man, Pat is spreading that ball around.

[Travis Kelsey]

Not a lot of tendencies, you know what I mean? Where guys are getting first downs. Guys.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Noah Gray had a huge first down. Juju Smith Schusters, I think, had our longest play on a naked Hollywood Browns.

[Jason Kelsey]

Running out of touchdown celebrations.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, my guys said, I'm jumping in the stands. You already know I only played for one. It's so good, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, let's get to primetime. Trav. We talked about bun or LeBron stats. Trav passed a legend, Jason Whitten in prime time receiving yards. Did you notice you are now second? You are second all time. And prime time receiving yards, a very. Again, another very specific category. How does it feel to be the second all time receiving yards for a tight end leader in. In that category?

[Travis Kelsey]

It means a lot because I feel like I would love to see how many games Jason Whitten played on prime time. I mean, he's played for the Cowboys. The boys are always on prime time. They're getting prime time since the beginning of his career. You know, to the, to the.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, you've had a lot of prime time games, too. You're the Kansas City Chiefs. You guys are on every. You played on every day of the week other than Tuesday. Like that's the only day you haven't.

[Travis Kelsey]

Played on America's team.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jason, I'm saying you've had some prime time games, so don't act like you guys aren't getting opportunities. You've had some opportunities.

[Travis Kelsey]

What? Who am I second behind?

[Jason Kelsey]

You got to be to Tony, right? That's the only person that makes sense. But he didn't have a lot of prime time, did he?

[Travis Kelsey]

What are you trying to say?

[Jason Kelsey]

He was on the Chiefs when they weren't very good. The Chiefs when Tony was there. Not the same as Chiefs of recent.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know. Them boys was cold in 03. Who are we second behind?

[Jason Kelsey]

Do we got that, Brandon?

[Travis Kelsey]

I want to know who we.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Take a guess. Take a guess. Take a guess. Receiving stats.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, it's only receiving. It's not tight end.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

It's just receiving stats. Who do you think it is?

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, Jerry Rice.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, sorry, I thought it was just tight ends. All right, that's an easy answer. Thank you.

[Travis Kelsey]

How far behind him you're.

[Jason Kelsey]

You gotta be miles. 49ers. They were in some primetime games. You're miles behind Jerry.

[Travis Kelsey]

Damn it. Not miles.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, let's get into the game, Trav. You had a bunch of catches. One of the better games you've had this year, or actually probably the best game you've had this year. Six receptions for 78 yards. I love a lot of these photos, man. Take a look at this photo where you're being held up by, like, five different Detroit Lions. Four guys. Just look at your. Did you look at your face in this? There's a age to this face right there in the middle. That is just.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, dude, you know what this is? You know what this is? This is the first catch of the game.

[Jason Kelsey]

And you know how you.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're. You're trying to finish. I kind of. I. I get hit by one guy, I kind of slide off of him, and now I'm just like. I'm getting pinballed, but I'm keeping the feet moving. And then I get held.

[Jason Kelsey]

Security.

[Travis Kelsey]

Then I get held up. Yeah, exactly. Security in a situation like that. And then once I get held up, the stampede is coming. I. I think I'd locked eyes with Trey Smith about to come and clean the p. Like br. I'm like, hit me.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love it.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, man, the big boys were finishing downfield, man, and I was just bracing for it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Andy Reid was asked about your performance. He said, we've been giving Travis Kelsey a lot of. What is this, geratol? Is that like an aging thing?

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know, man. Coach Reed's the best. He pulled one out from the. This is probably. What is Geritol. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's got to be something with old people.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know, but it's like from like the 70s or something.

[Jason Kelsey]

What about this? How is your head feeling? You did a headstand in the middle of the day.

[Travis Kelsey]

He caught me on. He caught me with a charge. Yeah, caught you in the jump. I got a. I got a Charlie horse more than I got anything going on with my neck.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, landing on your head was interesting. What the Were you doing reaching for the pylon afterward? Did you think you were not down.

[Travis Kelsey]

In the end zone? Some decent motherfucker, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

You had been down for like, four seconds. Boom.

[Travis Kelsey]

God damn it, Travis. You're on the one yard line. Get the goddamn end zone. Stop jumping, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Favorite things of the game was that. I just love the reason.

[Travis Kelsey]

Worse, they did it in a slow motion on the broadcast. That made it look even. Even worse. You're right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just. God damn it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get in the zone, Travis.

[Jason Kelsey]

Holy. That was funny.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was too funny, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Kingsley Sumata took you out after the Hollywood Brown touchdown.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that was fun. Kings is the man, dude, everybody was just out there finishing downfield, man. Listen, when you're. When you're in the end zone, it doesn't matter what's going on, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love the way you fall on this, too.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm just like it. Let's go a little.

[Jason Kelsey]

You get a little extra shove on Kirby right there. Can we talk about the hurry up after the catch? This smart football, I think it is, and I noticed it on the broadcast.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, it's. It's definitely smart football. And I kind of looked at Pat and I was like, so this is.

[Jason Kelsey]

What I wanted to talk about because I saw you give like a very subtle. Just like. Like something with your finger. Whereas a lot of teams do like this big old, like this huge gesture. And that signals right away in the opposing coach, like, hey, they're trying to get this snapped off because he doesn't think he caught it. A lot of times you'll see a challenge in that instance. Do you guys talk about this? Do you try to make it subtle, or is that something that you just did Instinctually?

[Travis Kelsey]

I. When I caught the ball, I felt the ball hit the ground, right? That doesn't mean I didn't have possession of it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Correct.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm saying, like, it's in my hand. Ball hits the ground.

[Jason Kelsey]

Or as though it's like, okay, and I'm like, questionable.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know if they're going to try and like, yeah, flat. Like, at least give this a chance. And now it's not. Now it's out of our hands and it's in no question. You know what I mean? So I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, it might be smart if we just did a quick, you know, I mean, it's the first down. Might be smart if we just get up here and go. And I think everybody kind of felt the exact same way. I'm not going to say I. It was like, we did it. Because I was like, hey, yo, let's do it. But I was even thinking what the coaches were thinking on that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Usually the coaching point is if there's any doubt, right? Like, if you have to wonder, like, did I catch that or not, you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Tell the guy in the booth, don't.

[Jason Kelsey]

Even put it in the. Hurry up, get on the ball. Especially if it's a first down, big play like that one was. It did make me realize, like, how much the rules of a catch have changed over, like the last 10 to 15 years. Like, because I think by the old standards of a catch, this was Absolutely not a catch because it used to not be able to touch the ground. Like the moment it touched the ground, they would call it like, hey, that's trapping, not a catch. But now you really don't lose possession. Like, your right hand slips off of it, but your left hand maintains full contacts the entire time. So, like, in my heart of hearts, do I think you maintain possession the entire way? I don't think so. But based on how we rule a new A catch these days, I don't think this would have been overturned if it was reviewed anyways. And the official in the booth said the exact same thing. Yeah, they are. I think by the way, we were determined to catch today's standards. I think that would have been upheld anyways. But smart decision by you regardless. We also got you with the. The Dream Shake, as you're calling this. This was your, this was your first catch of the game. It wasn't the other one, right? I thought, no, this is the first. This is the first one. Yeah, this one was. Was nice.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm talking shit on the sideline to, to the young guys. And I know know nothing about 90s basketball because they weren't born until 2002.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Travis Kelsey]

And I, I threw it out there. This. It wasn't as Hakeem Olajuwon Dream Shake in the post.

[Jason Kelsey]

Somebody you look.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was definitely the guy behind me and give him a little shimmy. For sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought it looked exactly like. It was like I was watching Elijah. Want to play football for a second?

[Travis Kelsey]

Shut the up.

[Jason Kelsey]

Look at that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Shout out to kg, Kevin Garnett, Travis Kelsey also had a little bit of this shake in his. In his post up game. See, that was just me in high school, man. Give me the, give me the ball in the post. That's what I was saying. They don't want to see me in the post. My back turn.

[Jason Kelsey]

I was talking to somebody on Monday night. I can't remember who was, but they asked me, how does your brother feel that? And I'm like, I think he just takes a picture before he turns around. Like where those guys are at in his head. And he knows timing wise that they're going to be on him when he catches the ball. And he just takes that little jab step. Like, what is your thought process? Like what causes you. Because you're not. You obviously can't see them. What causes you to be able to do that?

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason, I got eyes on the back of my head.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, you're not. Cam Scatter. You don't have, you know, you can't.

[Travis Kelsey]

See that well, Fields. What I know exactly. I look up at the Jumbotron right before I catch it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't buy it. I'm not buying that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Could you imagine if I did?

[Jason Kelsey]

There are guys that claim that, but I don't.

[Travis Kelsey]

I've looked up at the Jumbotron one time when I was running in the open field just to get caught.

[Jason Kelsey]

I can see that. I can see that.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, you take a mental. Like you said, you kind of just feel the game. You. I realize that you. Who are the two closest guys to me, you know, and one was directly in front of me, coming down to play me into the flat. And then there was one guy coming from the inside, inside out. And how am I gonna get this ball? How am I going to get more yards? Who can I, who can. How can I make these guys miss? Or how can I make one guy over pursuit, you know? And it's just. Yep. You play around with that in practice, sometimes you get smoked and it doesn't work and you got a five yard gain sometimes, you know? You know what I mean? You, you make a guy miss. You guys run into each other and you're, you're getting 10 yards and it's just, it's just playing and feeling the game and.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, well, it worked in this game. It was fun. It was a dirty little move right there. Laveri, Hakeem Olajuanesca, we got some records. With 1032 catches. Travis now has the 12th most. Most receptions in NFL history. We're. We're on the LeBron stats right now.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

What are we doing?

[Jason Kelsey]

Can we name the other top 11 most catches in NFL history?

[Travis Kelsey]

Most catches in NFL history.

[Jason Kelsey]

So let's go tight ends first. So we got Jason Whitten and Tony. Is Antonio Gates still above you in receptions or is he not?

[Travis Kelsey]

I would assume he is, yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

So let's say those three, those are the three tight ends above you, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Then we got receivers. We got Jerry Rice, Randy Moss. I'm thinking Randy. Right. It's got to be guys that played forever in the modern era. So Jerry, Larry. What's. Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, Larry Fitz.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, not Julio.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's gotta be somebody that played with Peyton, Marvin or.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh my gosh, Reggie.

[Jason Kelsey]

Reggie Wayne or both of them. I feel like Marvin was there longer. Reggie had like that was. Was pretty ridiculous. But Marvin was there. I feel like a long time.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't think it's either one of them.

[Jason Kelsey]

Terrell Owens, to's gotta be up there right he's gotta be.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm giving you nothing. You're. You're on this list by yourself at this point. Antonio Brown, Tim Brown.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, not until Antonio didn't play long enough, I don't think. I feel like Tim Brown played for a long time. Right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Megatron didn't play a long time, but he might be.

[Travis Kelsey]

He might be up there now. I just want to know who.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who are we missing? Brandon, Jerry Rice, Larry Fitz, Tony Marvin Harris. Yeah. Chris Carr is one that we definitely should have got. Tim Brown, we got Terrell Owens and Quan Bolden. Damn. We said Andre Johnson, right? You said him. I think you did.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, no, no.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's one that we definitely should have got. We definitely should have got Andre Johnson. Let's go, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

I got Keenan Allen right there, too, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's. Keenan Allen coming up, man. Julio Jones isn't nowhere near that. I thought he would be.

[Travis Kelsey]

I didn't think so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he played for a long time. He did. He did. Is the plus mean they're a Hall of Famer? What the fuck does this plus mean?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Yep.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, that answers that. Wood stats from Chase Snyder on Twitter. Travis Kelsey before the release of wood, four games, 15 catches, 188 yards and a touchdown. Travis Kelsey after release of Wood, two games, 139 yards and one touchdown.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's hilarious.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know why that's significant, but it's funny. Is this a LeBron stat? Patrick Mahomes, fastest to 300 combined touchdowns. Yes. Whenever you have to put a parameter on, like, the fastest 2x or like, that means you just made up an arbitrary number just to make him have a stat. Like, it's. I don't know what the. That's the definition of a LeBron stat. Like, when you have to make up a statistic that. No, nobody would ever say the fastest of 300 combined TDs. The only reason this is being made is that for somebody to have a talking point about the greatness of Patrick Mahomes, we don't need this stat. But congrats, Pat.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Anything else from the game that you want to talk about? I can't think of anything else, especially. I mean, nothing happened after the game of note, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

No, I can't think of anything.

[Jason Kelsey]

I will. I'll say this, and you can tell me if you want to take it out or not. I think that the game is a heated game. Emotions get flared up. It's a physical game. You never want it to get to that level. Especially when the game's already over. But, like, you know, at the end of the day, the NFL take care of the fines and suspensions and all that stuff. Like, it is a game of emotion. It's a game of physicality. It's a game of passion. And I don't want to. I don't really overthink this. I think Dan Campbell handled it well in his press conference. You know, I think everybody has handled it well. I don't think less of anybody. I damn sure don't. And, you know, sometimes these things happen in this sport because of how physical and aggressive it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

It doesn't make it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. You know what I mean? So I don't want to overdo any type of statement. I don't even know if we should put that out there. But regardless, next week, the Chiefs have a in division opponent. We got little Chiefs. Raiders action.

[Travis Kelsey]

Raiders week, baby. Let's go. Fire me up, man. Oh, God.

[Jason Kelsey]

Return for somebody. You guys have been long awaiting and anticipating as players and as fans. Rasheed Rice will be back in the lineup officially.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm just happy to get my guy back out there, man. He could put this in the past. Rashid is such a good dude, man. When it. When all this happened, you know, I. I gave him a shout and let him know, man, listen, we know who you are as a person. Don't let the world, you know, you know, drag you through and make you feel like you're. You're. You're any less of that. And. And he's one of my favorite people that and one of my favorite teammates I've ever had in the building because of how he attacks the day, how he lives his life, his generosity and his. His work ethic and how much fun he has playing this game. And I'm just. I'm excited for him to get back to what he. He loves to do the most, and that's play football.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, everybody makes mistakes. This was a big one, and, you know, he served his punishment for it, and, you know, you got to just move on. That's the only way you can approach it. You know what I mean? And.

[Travis Kelsey]

And we're about to get.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're about to get the most ferocious.

[Travis Kelsey]

Version of Rasheed Rice, man. I cannot wait. This guy has been sitting in meetings listening to. To plays being dialed up, and I just know he's ready to get in on the action with this, man. And he's one of the best, like, energy guys on the field. He plays with passion, he plays with physicality. You can have him. You know block in the run game you can have when he gets the ball in his hands, he's finishing, he's running through arm tackles and it's just, he's such a vital piece to have outside of just being a great receiver, man. And I can't wait to get back out there and rocking with him, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

And it's interesting he's coming back. You know, I think when I was thinking about him coming back like three weeks ago, I was like, how much, you know, he can't just be back. And I don't think it can just be the Rasheed Rice show. Like, good as he is, I don't think it can be that. That's not just going to be the fix. But now with the way you guys are rolling and some of the players that have emerged between Taekwond Thor and you're getting the run game going, you know, juju Smith Schuster adds a lot to the game. I really do think like in the run game and all these little things, man, he is an underrated piece. He really is, man. I know there's that picture of my guy going around like. But it's. Listen, he's a, he's an, he's an agitator for sure. And he gets after people in a lot of different phases. Rasheed coming in there is. He's coming in at the right time, man. It feels like a lot of things are clicking. Worthy's back, you got the razzle dazzle plays back in the lineup and now you're going to have this, you know, premier guy brought back into the building.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

It just feels like everything is clicking right now with the Chiefs. I can't wait to watch next week and see what it looks like. So good luck to you, brother.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you to our partner, WhatsApp.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let me tell you something.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

These group chats, they can be a little bit overwhelming, can't they, man?

[Travis Kelsey]

Sometimes you get a message at like 6am and it's like, hey, important update about the team meeting. But you never get it because it's buried under a bunch of other texts.

[Jason Kelsey]

Or players meeting and update. But yeah, and then someone is like, oh, which meeting? While another Guy is sending GIFs and suddenly you've got 47 unread messages. OMG.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. That's why people are loving pinned messages on WhatsApp. That's right. You can pin a message. The most important message then gets pinned to the feed and that's the one you get to read because that's the important one.

[Jason Kelsey]

Love it. Okay.

[Travis Kelsey]

You can pin the important message right at the top where everyone can see it.

[Jason Kelsey]

That sounds really cool. No more scrolling through a sea of memes and. Okay messages to find the crucial info. Just pin it and boom. Meeting details are front and center.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, and it's depending on which, like, group chat you're in. Like, some of those memes could be really good. But when you're just trying to get, like, the information and the good stuff, man, this is. It comes pretty. Pretty in handy. And what's the most chaotic group chat you're in right now? Jason?

[Jason Kelsey]

Probably the one with me, you, Craig, and all the guys.

[Travis Kelsey]

Chaotic, man. You gotta.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not a big group chat guy. I got a few.

[Travis Kelsey]

I got so many.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're better at keeping in touch with people. I'm notorious. Now that I'm using WhatsApp, I'll be better moving forward.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

And I'm gonna let everyone in on this little secret.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's that?

[Travis Kelsey]

You don't even need to be in a costume. You don't even need to dress up to eat Reese's pumpkins either.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're just gonna go buy them from the store.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I respect it, but if you do. Pro tip pockets to hold the Reese's nice and keep your mouth uncovered for easy Reese's delivery.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. Yeah, I mean, you. You gotta have costumes with pockets for. For candy specifically. It's the candy season. If you're not. If you don't have a costume with a pocket in it or pants with pocket in it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. What are we talking about?

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

What are we talking about? Pockets. You got buckets. Where? This is Halloween. We're not putting candy in pockets if you're not. We got buckets, we got knapsacks. We got pillowcases, fanny packs.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. They really are Halloween's perfect candy treat, man. Enjoy Reese's pumpkins now found wherever you can find candy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thank you to our partner Raisin Canes.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it? You know what's amazing about Raising canes?

[Jason Kelsey]

What's that Travis?

[Travis Kelsey]

Not just their incredible food but the guy who started it all. My guy Todd Graves. You do you actually know Finest? Yeah, I know Todd real well. Over the years he's become such a great supporter of everything we do. My foundation 87 and running Pat's foundation 15 of the Mahomes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Didn't they just step up and do a bunch of stuff with Kelsey Carjam?

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah, they really did. And the Kane's food truck was there serving up those perfect chicken fingers with that sauce and the. Can't forget that Texas toast.

[Keanu Reeves]

I love that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Come on now.

[Travis Kelsey]

Texas toast. And Todd and Raising Canes donated a hundred and twenty five zero zero zero to eighty seven and running my foundation. And it's going to help out a lot here in the Kansas City community and up there in Cleveland Heights, basically, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

And he also was working with tight end you as well, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on now. It's all of it, baby. He's in. He's in on. He's in on everything, guy. He really is man. And he's doing an amazing job with Raising canes and all the communities that they're in. And Ty came out a few times actually to speak to the tight end. Sharing the entrepreneurial journey. He's awesome on sharing his story and he's got. He's got a hell of a story out of Louisiana and just a genuine guy who built something special, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey man, sounds like this guy likes two things. Giving his money away and frying up chickens. All right now speaking of special, how about those chicken fingers? Perfectly crispy on the outside and sweet and juicy on the inside.

[Travis Kelsey]

You have to get extra cane sauce man. That cane sauce is horse kind as you know. That's non negotiable.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well the whole meal is perfect. Those crinkle cut fries, the Texas toast I usually swap out for some coleslaw sometimes if I'm feeling a little bit frisky.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's a classic move right there. That man's done this before. Add an ice cold sweet tea or lemonade and you're in business.

[Jason Kelsey]

Don't wait another day to try the best chicken fingers in the game. Raising canes is waiting for you. Let's get to the rest of week six.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's do it. Big Dog. Some of the other big stories around the league, starting with the Eagles, baby. It's a tough one, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, do we have to game? I'm sorry. I'm just upset that now we have to talk about that Eagles game.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Listen, Jason, we don't.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right?

[Jason Kelsey]

We're skipping it. No Eagles talk.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, they're in time out.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

No, get your together. We'll talk about you on the show.

[Jason Kelsey]

God damn it. All right, here we go.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

You got scatter.

[Jason Kelsey]

Booed. We got darted.

[Travis Kelsey]

You got darted is hilarious.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, some of the other big.

[Travis Kelsey]

Stories from around the league, starting with the Eagles. Man, the Eagles had a tough one. Tough in. In division game. Giants 34, Eagles 17. Jason, what's. What's going on with the Birds, man?

[Jason Kelsey]

You know, I think, you know, short week. They obviously came off a tough loss to Denver and a lot of the narrative had been, you know, the offense needs to get it going and get it fixed. They're. They've been prone to a lot of the three and outs. I think the league leading percentage of three and outs and the offense is just at some times, it's really clicking. And for halves, we're putting together great halves and then other halves, it just feels like it's either all or nothing. It feels like. You know what I mean? And yeah, it's a frustrating thing to watch. You know, you need that consistency. And they. They know it. They're. And they're. They're out there trying to fix it. But yeah, the short week, you know, I'm not gonna lie, going up against New York, you know, they're missing neighbors went down a couple weeks ago with an ACL injury. Slayton's out for the game. They're missing their two best, you know, options from a quarterback standpoint. And I thought the Eagles defense and they would put up a much better performance. And I could not be more wrong. I didn't think that they were going to do. The Giants are going to do much offensively. I did not think Dart was going to be able to throw the ball the way he did. And I thought being one dimensional against the Eagles is going to be hard. And they weren't one dimensional. Dart threw the ball very well. Now the Eagles were missing Jalen Carter. Yeah, you know, Quinyan went down early and you know, it's just the coverage wasn't great. They were good at stopping there in the first half, but eventually that everything just snowballed and it was a. It was a tough game to watch as an Eagles fan and a guy that is, you know, you know, such a big proponent for. For that team and those players in there, and, you know, they. They didn't play well. That's the reality of it. They. They got. Not only did it not play well, but one of the things that was frustrating was just like, you know, the energy difference, if I'm being honest, the.

[Travis Kelsey]

Giants, it's crazy how much that energy means everything. How are we showing up to the ballpark today, man?

[Jason Kelsey]

Stout says this a lot. Execution fuels emotion. And I know this is a player, and you know, this, like, when it's not going well, it's hard to have that, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

You gotta find it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Exactly. And that's what I think right now with that game. And part of it's the way it unfolded, right? Like, the Giants were playing better. The Eagles were not playing well in a lot of phases, and they were getting frustrated as the game went. So, of course the energy is going to be different. But I just, you know, you know, Jackson Dart and Camp Scatterboo, these guys right now are playing with this, like, this young, youthful enthusiasm that's excited to be realizing their dream in the NFL. They're out there, and you can feel the energy and emotion and passion with them, and it's rubbing off on the whole team. I mean, Jackson Dark goes into the blue tent, and people are going in there to try and get him out. They're like, fuck, no, you're not concussed. You can't. You can't quit on us. And it's just like, man, it was. It was amazing, honestly, watching that.

[Travis Kelsey]

And how many more tests do you got to keep running? Can he count the 10?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes. Is he seeing double or is he.

[Travis Kelsey]

Is he following the finger?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he know we're in New Jersey?

[Travis Kelsey]

Houses balance on his right leg? We don't need the left. We only need the right.

[Jason Kelsey]

So, I mean, I think. And a lot of it comes down to the expectations, right? Like, the. The. The Giants, I think they're one in four coming into this game. Yeah, they're starting like a rookie. They're playing two rookies at two meaningful positions. Like, the expectations for the Giants are not great. As long as they're performing well. It's like, hey, these guys are balling out. The expectations for the Eagles are. I mean, it's super bowl or nothing. Like, if we don't go back there, it's a letdown as far as, like, the fan base and people are concerned. I think that's the reality of it. It's. And Right now, they're, They're. They're falling short, and that is a frustrating thing. As a player, you want it to.

[Travis Kelsey]

Go well, but still early. But I hear you right now where the team is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, right now they're not playing up to what they need to, and there's a lot of season left. And I got a ton of confidence that these guys are going to come now, especially after having a loss like that with a rejuvenated energy. I think that, you know, I think the Eagles have got to get back to. To. To playing with that energy, to getting things going. And I know they've been hard at work. They've had the mini buy now to refocus. A lot of this you're hearing. The coaches feel like they are. I feel like the offense. A lot has been made about Kevin Petullo. I. I know that Eagles fans are gonna like. I feel like it is getting better. I feel like you're seeing some either more creative things. I think you're seeing them get to Saquon in a better way, even though it's still not being executed perfectly. And I anticipate that to continue to improve as the season keeps going. Defensively, getting Quinon and Jalen Carter back will be huge. And I got to think Vic Fangio, one of the best coaches in the NFL, is going to get those guys right moving forward. So, yeah, it was a frustrating game to watch. It's a frustrating game to watch as a fan and as a former teammate to a lot of these guys, because you know where they've been, you know what they're going through in these moments, and it's. It's, you know, but at the same time, you know, this is where great players are made, man. It ain't when shit's going right. It isn't when the whole world's telling you how great you are. It's, you know, how do you respond when everything's against you? How do you respond as a teammate when everybody's trying to separate you?

[Travis Kelsey]

That's the biggest thing, man. That's the biggest. You can't let people peel you apart, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

And this is something you know so well. You guys have just been through this earlier in the season, right? You've been through it for a whole off season. You guys dealt with a bunch of this through the off season with the way the super bowl went through the first couple weeks of the season, and now everybody's back on top of the Chiefs bandwagon, right? This is when great teams, great players and great Leaders are tested when you're going through stuff like this, and I look forward to seeing how they respond. That's the reality of it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Brandon opposed her. Put a question on here. I'm assuming Brandon did this.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, you never know.

[Travis Kelsey]

Is it. Is it easier to play with no expectations? I feel like I've always. I've always had the most expectations on myself.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a great way to put it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I've always put that super bowl or fucking nothing on myself. I've always put that I have to be the best player in the world for my teammate or I. I need to find a way to get better. In terms of the scrutiny of the expectations from the world, I think it. When I.

[Keanu Reeves]

When.

[Travis Kelsey]

When you first get into the league and you're kind of just, you're.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're.

[Travis Kelsey]

What. What is it? You're. You're living life and you're flying by the seat of your pants, I think is the, the phrase. Yeah, when you're just. When, when you're having fun being in the NFL for the first time, getting wins, being on top of the world, getting recognized for that, I think that is such a. An easy feel because you don't know what's. What's coming because the t. The. The NFL is going to catch on to what you're doing and you're going to have to make adjustments. I think there is a bit of. Yeah, it's easy to do it once. Yeah. In a sense, it's not easy to win in the NFL.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm not saying that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, that's, that's the bigger thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

But yeah, go ahead.

[Travis Kelsey]

In terms of getting those first wins, I think that's more. That's the easier task than to continue to put. To stack wins, stack seasons and meet those expectations than it is to exceed, you know, maybe some expectations that you set for yourself when, when you haven't been in that boat.

[Jason Kelsey]

You touched on two things that I think I really love. One, being the best players are internally motivated. Like, if you're finding motivation from the exterior fan bases making noise, whatever it is, you're never going to be one of the best players in the world. That's just not the way it works. The best players in the world want to be the best players in the world and they can't live without being the best players. Like that's how they fucking operate mentally. That's just the reality of it. You're the hardest person on yourself. Then anybody else can throw it down on top of you. But I also think that is it easier to play with no expectations or is it. I think part of this is a little bit of a fallacy where, like, it's easy for anybody to put one great season together, Right. It's not easy to have one great season, but it's easier to do one great season than to continually repeat on that great season, whether it's as a team or as a player. Sustained excellence in the highest level of any profession is incredibly fucking hard. You have to. It's incredibly hard to continually find new ways to have success after everybody is trying to beat you in the NFL and the expectations only come once you climb the mountaintop, once you become a great player. So of course it's harder once those expectations are out there to repeat because it's harder to have sustained excellence than just have a one off fluke season or a few games. Yeah, I don't know that it's a fair question.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I hear you on that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, it's easier when there's no expectations because nobody is saying anything. You don't have that on top of yourself. Yes, that's true, but I don't know that it becomes actually harder because of the expectations. I just think, you know, it's harder to keep rolling the dice and hitting sevens every single time. Like eventually you're gonna hit a right. Harder to hit a six. Yeah, it's harder to roll the dice and continually hit the point. Right. Eventually you're Gonna hit a 7. Right. The sustained excellence aspect of the NFL or any top of your field is extremely hard. And it takes a dedicated work ethic and a great team and great leadership to continually come back to the table and win.

[Travis Kelsey]

And all of you guys out there that just heard Jason give a fucking great speech about don't give up on the craps table. That doesn't mean go out and gamble tonight.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, go gamble. Go have some fun. Just do it responsibly. Yeah, I mean, it's harder from an outside noise thing with the expectations, but I don't know, man. Expectations. I'm just trying to win the. Win the day. I'm trying to. I'm trying to block outside zone right here and reach this nose guard. That's my expectation. Yeah, I focused on this other.

[Travis Kelsey]

Literally a rough day for Philly last Thursday. Obviously the Eagles lost to the Giants, but the Phillies, damn it, got knocked out of the playoffs, man, extra innings. Cities in history to have their NHL team lose, NFL team lose, and MLB team lose in the playoffs and be eliminated all on the same day.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, Only Only been done twice. And it's both times it's been done. Oh no, it's both.

[Travis Kelsey]

Philly.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fuck Philly. Last Thursday and then Philly also on October 16, 1983. Only two teams. Only two times has happened in history according to Greg Harvey, which we will. We will take his word as gospel because that's what we do in these days.

[Travis Kelsey]

What a time to be alive.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I mean there was something else in here. You guys must have deleted it. But like was Detroit's day of like the Lions. What was it? Brandon? You had it in there. Lions.

[Travis Kelsey]

Lions.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Michigan.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. And who else? Tigers and Tigers. Which tells me you know nothing about Detroit because Detroit is way more riding with Michigan State, you dumbass. No, I'm sorry.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is definitely a spartan city.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

That's fine.

[Jason Kelsey]

These wine drinkers from Ann Arbor. No, Detroit is riding with Michigan State.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'd like to apologize to city of Detroit.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

I'm sorry, that's all. I'll wear that one. That's on me. That's my fault. Sorry guys. Sorry about your Tigers. My bad.

[Travis Kelsey]

Do we want to keep hitting on this game? I mean these, this picture is high.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, just two lovable idiots. I just think it's, that's the best, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love this, man. This is, this is, God damn it, man. This gives me life, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, man, I think these dudes just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Love some ball, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's what it comes down.

[Travis Kelsey]

They just love some football, man. And they love each other. They love the team that they're on. They play with high vibes, man. They're playing their tail off. Jackson darts doesn't look like the biggest guy. I mean on the field with him. He's, he's not a small dude, but.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, he's not the style of football.

[Travis Kelsey]

That he's playing where he's putting his head down and he's trying to run through grown ass men in the NFL. Like this guy just wants to get every single yard for his team. You know what I mean? And, and I agree. I, I, I think doing the exact same thing with every rush that he gets. He's, he's, he's looking for contact on runs and it's like what that does to like your team when you have success, man. It just, it makes you, it builds you, man. It just gives you, dude gives you the juice, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

When this, when this whole first thing started happening, I was kind of, I don't know if I was being a hater. Yeah, we'll see where this is energy is going. Like, I don't know, but I gotta hand it to a man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Can we zoom in on this photo?

[Jason Kelsey]

Look at this.

[Keanu Reeves]

Ah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You can't deny how the whole team has responded to this energy. Like, they are all playing and, like, it's infectious. And the entire team has been energized. Look at this. The face guy.

[Travis Kelsey]

Face is so good, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is the type of energy that like football. Like, just guys that love playing ball.

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

They're excited to do dumb. Like, I'm gonna go run through that brick wall. Who's man enough to do it? I don't give a. What front was it? What, what coverage was it? What did the linebacker do, Coach? I just ran straight as fast, as hard, as hard as I could. It didn't stop moving my feet. That's a fucking mentality that a lot of the NFL is missing right now. And they, they lost it when they kind of got rid of fullbacks a little bit. And that's the kind of attitude this guy's bringing. There was a great clip of. I think it was demario Davis giving this kid flowers and like, kind of like, like, you know, saying, like, dude, this guy's for real. Like, he, I, I with him just because there's no back down, there's no quit. And you need a guy like that. Every team needs that. Like the replacements. We talk about it with. With Keanu, like, you know, the middle linebacker, right? Like, everybody needs that guy. That's like, yeah, you're gonna ask me to do something really stupid. I don't give a. I'm willing to go do this dumbass thing just with relentless energy. And I'm gonna attack everything in front of me like, like, yeah, that's what fullback was. That's what every team needs. Like, a guy like that. And everybody loves that guy, especially when there's an energy. I don't know why. Dude, this guy reminds me a little bit of Ezekiel Elliott. Like, I. There's like an enthusiasm and an energy about him.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

That is just. It's fun to watch, and I, I hope they lose every game as an Eagles fan, but I also kind of love watching it. You gotta kind of. Yeah. Like, I gotta say it. Like, it is what it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know? What it's gonna do is gonna make me, you know, when I. When Sunday at noon or, or, or one o' clock Eastern time. Like, whenever that time comes around, it's like, man, what. Let me see what the Giants got going on today.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, they make me want to watch the Giants because of how Fun. They because of the energy they got, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's a mentality that is oftentimes missed in today's NFL. It's hard to find high level talented players that do not give a if they're about to KO themselves. Yeah, they're. They're gonna keep too much.

[Travis Kelsey]

Mental. Mental toughn.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sports science says it's not smart to run full speed into the middle linebacker with your head down. Yeah, well, watch this motherfucker. Take your science.

[Travis Kelsey]

You want to see something cool?

[Jason Kelsey]

Take your science, turn it sideways, bend around and shove it right up your candy ass cam. Scatter boost coming right up that thing, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, man, that was gold. Thank you.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love everything about it. I really do.

[Travis Kelsey]

0 Filter man, you got to have a psycho. You got to have a psycho, man. You got to have a 1 or 2 or 3 or 4. You got to have a few, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Those meathead just like don't give a fuck what they're doing. Like, no.

[Travis Kelsey]

And having fun doing it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Johnny Knoxville with shoulder pads on just willing to fuck himself up for the team. Yeah. Quotes from teammates are hysterical. He's genuinely an idiot. From Gunner. I don't even know how to fucking say this Polish ass name. Gunar Oyster. What the am I doing, Brandon? I don't know what this name is.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love how Brandon got that stray. I'll put it in here if we can't.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's genuinely an idiot. Love that Jackson dart. The first time we met, we said three words to each other. Just headbutted each other. Look at. They're just the Bash Bros. This is just a reincarnation of the.

[Travis Kelsey]

Bash Bros. And that's why the Bash Bass Bros were so. That's why the Ducks were so good.

[Jason Kelsey]

0 Filter first time at a special teams meeting, he asked what's our job? Our job is to play with speed, get off the ball. And then this animal just goes physicality. And it just made. And it just made no sense.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, it made all.

[Jason Kelsey]

But it does.

[Travis Kelsey]

That makes all the sense.

[Jason Kelsey]

Don't let all these X's and O's get in the way of the fact that it. What's Marshall Lynn say? Hey, that's my favorite interview of all time. Not too many people can take someone run through their face over and over and over and over and over and over and over. After he says that, the guy says, is there something more symbolic in that? And he says, run through a face. No, there ain't a metaphor. There's no simile happen. There ain't a pun. I just me and your goddamn chest. And I'm putting a hole in that. That's what the science is, dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're getting me fired up. God damn, that shit's gold.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, rest of the league. Dolphins suck.

[Travis Kelsey]

Damn it, man. They might be cooked, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I just. Even the like the Mike McDaniels like, like press break. The Dales press conference is just like, he knows they're cooked. Like, there's like zero. There's like zero hope happening right now with the Dolphins. I just don't even know what to take of them. And it's. You watch the tape and there's still like creative stuff being designed. Like it just feels like they are, they are searching, man. The line is struggling to block a lot of that stuff. It's, you know, it's.

[Travis Kelsey]

I haven't been able to catch them playing as much. I just see the demeanor after games. I'm just like, man, that's. They're in a tough spot.

[Jason Kelsey]

The demeanor's bad. And like even not even just after games to a tug of loa was telling the reporters that Dolphins players have been late and or skipping players only meetings in recent weeks. What's a players only mean if the players aren't showing up? Like is. That's just the janitors in there. Just. He's the only one in the players meeting. Like, what the fuck are we doing? How did that even. How does that even happen? Typically the players only meeting happens after like a team meeting or someone say, everybody, we're just going to stay in here, talk. Like how many players only meetings are these guys schedule it, you know? Like, I'm so confused at like how this is like a thing. Like, well, we had the players only meeting Tuesday and everybody showed up. And then the one on Wednesday like.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, they should have used WhatsApp app. It got all on the same page. We got an RSVP in there.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's the problem.

[Travis Kelsey]

What guys were going to come. It's all about communication guys.

[Jason Kelsey]

They're SMSing and they need, they need to get the WhatsApp. You can use that across all your devices. No excuse to miss the WhatsApp players. Missing the players only beatings is hilarious to me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Damn it, man. I love to him, man. He's a good dude, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's a great dude. And he's pointing it out like it's like it's just not good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Football nightmares Trent Williams shared he has nightmares about showing up late to games. I get one frequently oversleeping a game, pulling up at halftime, waking up in A sweat. I mean, that's interesting.

[Jason Kelsey]

Have you ever had a late to a game nightmare?

[Travis Kelsey]

Nightmare? No, just like a real life. I was living that dream. Dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

Reality.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah. My reality is being late and sweating on my way to the stadium.

[Jason Kelsey]

I can't say I ever had this nightmare. I. Is it bad? Like, I don't remember my dreams.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's a Kelsey thing.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is that a Kelsey thing? Like, I don't. I couldn't tell you the last dream I remember having. Do you remember waking up, dad? How funny is it to wake up? We need to get that on camera and show the world what it's like to wake up. Like, every time you catch Ed Kelsey sleeping and you nudge him, he wakes up like he is falling out of the sky. I just like. Like, what the is going on in your dream that you can't just wake up gracefully? I just don't understand it. Like, he is a deep sleeper. Dude, we got to catch this on camera. Because I don't think I've ever caught anybody else waking up like that routinely.

[Travis Kelsey]

I used to add to it and like, try and like, scream or something when I was a kid. I was just a torture dad when you sleep on the couch, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, was he doing it just to try? And it felt like he was, like, trying to scare us. Like, he was like, oh, don't do that.

[Travis Kelsey]

He might have. That's a.

[Jason Kelsey]

That sounds like he's a deep sleeper. Jets update. Still winless. An amazing stat. Justin Fields negative 10 yards passing. Fewest in franchise history, fewest in the NFL since the Bears had a minus 20 game against the Lions in 1981. Things got so bad, Kurt Warner started tweeting while he was announcing the game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, no.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's announcing the game and he's. That's hilarious. Somebody please explain that last jets drive. Not really sure what I just watched. I just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, he's watching it. Like, I need some.

[Jason Kelsey]

I gotta crowd source this. I don't know what to even say anymore. Jets Jake, can we get some? Like, we gotta bring you on. Jets Jake. Our. Our local jets expert, Jets Jake. Also social media expert extraordinaire. Jake, what's going on with the Jets? What? From your perspective, expert NFL perspective, what do you think is happening?

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

The defense was really bad at first. Then the defense got better. Now the offense can't do anything.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

It's all really bad. Garrett Wilson's hurt now. He was like the only bright spot on the offense.

[Jason Kelsey]

They were running the ball pretty good.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

Yeah. Offensive line was playing pretty good.

[Jason Kelsey]

They.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

They had. I mean running the ball was the only thing that they could do. And then people forced them to throw the ball and they got negative 10 passing yards. So yeah, it's there. It's not. It's not a fun. I was so optimistic. We cut that out of the episode a few weeks ago. But I was like they're going to be over 500 by the by. And they're. They're 0 and 6 right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you talking about the. After the first game where they almost beat the Steelers? The only good game they've had.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

Yeah, I was super optimistic.

[Travis Kelsey]

They've been in all of them just like they've been.

[Jason Kelsey]

They've. They had that one. And then the one close game against Arizona.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

Tampa.

[Jason Kelsey]

Tampa.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

No, it's been a. It's been a real fun season.

[Jason Kelsey]

Watch.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

I'm glad I have your guys team so also root for. But it's not. It's not the same. Brandon asked me if I like still care and like I can't. I can't not care. Like I've invested so much in.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sure you can try it out. It's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, he's got a Jets tattoo. Is. He has to.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

I don't. Someone else does. Who we will have on the show.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. When are we. Are we having them on the show? I know.

[Travis Kelsey]

We just be on the show.

[Jason Kelsey]

He keeps getting.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

But he got bumped for Leo Keanu the Rock. Like he'll have his day.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right.

[Jason Kelsey]

And that's enough. That's enough bumping. And this guy got a tattoo. We're not bumping him anymore. I want him on the show. I want his take on this. Negative 10 yards passing. That's what I want.

[Travis Kelsey]

Are they a Jets fan?

[Jason Kelsey]

Probably not. I think they just want to jets fan. He just.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

He just got a tattoo of me riding the jets logo which was a very humbling and honoring.

[Jason Kelsey]

Anyways, either way, it's been a fun year.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

I love football. Football's great.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thanks for joining us.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thanks for jumping in and giving us your take.

[Jason Kelsey]

Appreciate it. Jake.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hold on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wait.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

One thing. One thing. Get back in here.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jake.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

I want to do one thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jake.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Just because we've wasted time in the jets. Now I gotta give me something. Pick the first win.

[Keanu Reeves]

Oh boy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, wow.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Pick the first win. Call your shot. Babe Ruth. Point to outfield. Call it right now.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean do it.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

This is. This is going to look really bad really quickly if I'm wrong. But like Carolina has been horrible on the road. I do think the. Oh, and six jets could get away. Like, this is why I care.

[Jason Kelsey]

Every week. Call it next week.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

I do think the jets win that game. Carolina coming into life.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, so see you next week. Lock it in.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

See you guys next week.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

We'll get an update next week. Thank you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Truly amazing optimism in the face of such horrid.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Jake is a sick man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Evidence. The ability of jets fans to negate what they're observationally looking at is truly remarkable. Thank you, Jake, for your input.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Thank you, Jake.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

No problem.

[Jason Kelsey]

We are officially a third. Third of the way through the NFL season. So let's take a look at where we're at so far. All right, who's good? Toughest division. Toughest division might be the ASU West. I don't know who else. NFC north, probably. Lions, Packers, Bears got a big win against Washington. There's a lot of bad. What's happening in the NFL. It is a crazy year. I don't know what's going on. There's not really any team that feels like they are like the juggernaut.

[Keanu Reeves]

No.

[Jason Kelsey]

Feels like it's wide open.

[Travis Kelsey]

Bill's losing last night.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, nobody. Lions look like they were starting to get it done. Then you guys go out there. I mean, the Chiefs kind of feel that way, but they're three and three. I. I just. I don't. It's a wild year right now, man. The Colts. The Colts are 5 and 1, but they haven't played anybody. Like, I like the Colts, but like, I still got to see it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. I don't know, man. It's just a weird year. It's wide open.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who do you think the biggest surprise is?

[Jason Kelsey]

Daniel Jones.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't even think Danny Jones, man. All right, now I'm surprised.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think everybody who. Who thought that Daniel Jones was going to go in there in through the first six weeks, be the number one quarterback in QBR. The Colts would be 5 and 1. Like, I thought Daniel Jones got around.

[Travis Kelsey]

And he went into a great opportunity.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I mean, listen, I thought he got a shit end of the stick wide receivers.

[Travis Kelsey]

A studded tight end right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, but you thought it was going to look like this. You thought it was going to look like this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know if you. No, come on. I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nobody thought it was going to be this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I didn't have a thought, but at the same time, it's like, it makes sense that. That he's going out there and he's winning football games.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought he was a better quarterback. In New York. The people gave him credit, but I definitely did not expect this. He is far exceeded any of my expectations. And I don't know who else has been the biggest surprise. Like I'm trying to think.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'd say Seattle. I didn't. I didn't feel Darnold would be able to repeat. Darnold, man, I just. A new first year coach. Seattle is this second year. My bad. Yeah, they traded dk. I'm like, what does that team look like with the new quarterback and a second year coach? And sure enough, man, they're. I mean, I saw it firsthand in preseason. I'm like, man, this. This team is. This team's got juice. This team can run the football. Yeah, they got players, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

They got.

[Travis Kelsey]

They got dogs. A wide receiver. They got my guy. AJ Barner from, From Cleveland, Ohio. Ohio. Football player at tight end. Baby, let's fucking go.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, listen, they had a big win this past week. I think they've been. They've definitely been surprising. Trying to think of who else. I thought the Bucks would be great, so that's not a surprise. I guess I'm surprised the 49ers have been able to weather all these injuries and somehow be towards the top of the NFL. Like they've done a great job with that. Now they just lose Fred Warner. I mean, it's like they give my.

[Travis Kelsey]

Guy George Kittle back. But that Fred Warner and Patriots got.

[Jason Kelsey]

To be up there.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's tough.

[Jason Kelsey]

Patriots got to be up there. I mean, Vrabel got them right quick. Yeah, they're playing good ball. Drake May looks legit, making a lot of plays. Not just. He makes on schedule plays, then he scrambles around, makes off schedule plays. The poise and like that's what it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's the call, the calm and savage.

[Jason Kelsey]

He looks like a 8 year, 10 year veteran for a while. Yeah, it's impressive. Ravens struggling as a surprise. But I think when you go through the injuries, it's not that surprising. I don't know, man. The whole year is a surprise. It's just been wild. All the teams I thought were going to be the competitive teams coming in. It just looks like all of them are, you know, they're losing games. They're. It's so wide open. Coach of the year. Who do we think is the coach of the year through the first quarter?

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, I'm a little biased, but. Oh, Andy, come on now, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Come on. Don't. Don't be a homer for once. Travis. Andy Reid. You guys are expected to go to the super bowl and you're three and three. Do not give me Andy Reid as the coach of the year through the first quarter. I love Andy Reid. I love Andy. He's the coach of my world. I love Andy Reid. Who's exceeded their expectations the most. Frapes, I think it's Braves. I feel like, like even with the Colts, it felt like there's, like pieces in place and Shane's done a phenomenal job this year. I think the Patriots being good is the biggest surprise. I did not think that they would be good this year. I thought it was going to take longer for them to be good. So I'll go with variable plus another Ohio guy to just give an award to mvp.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go Northeast.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mvp. I think it's a clear runaway through the first quarter of the season.

[Travis Kelsey]

Pat Mahomes, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Baker Mayfield. No question about it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love Baker. So I love.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'll, I'll allow that he's got a lot of great weapons, but he's also, I mean, this last game, like, everybody's hurt. Mike Evans is down, Chris Godwin's down, Buka's down, Bucky's down. And he's still balling. He's still putting up over 300 yards. Basically, he's tearing it up this year.

[Travis Kelsey]

Shaking big, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Bold topics was brought to you by raising canes. Chicken fingers.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it, man? That does it for both topics, specifically the fingers.

[Keanu Reeves]

Fingers.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jinx. And moving into stamp of the week. Let's get to stamp of the week brought to you by Starbucks, your new protein coffee destination. Two things I do love. Protein and coffee.

[Jason Kelsey]

Alrighty. Who we going with? Who we going with? Who we going with? Who we going with? Who we going with? Who we going with? Who we going.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm going with my guy, Jalen Moore. Man, keeping it in the house. Filled in at left tackle the other day as a brand new baby girl in the house. I'm sure keeping them up at night. I was born the day before the game. Shout out to Jalen's wife and shout out to Jalen, man. One of my. One of my favorite teammates right now. Guys, awesome to be in the building with Detroit's finest. And could it be happier that that he got his opportunity to shine on a little Monday or a little Sunday night Football.

[Jason Kelsey]

Make sure to ask Jalen if he's a Michigan or Michigan State fan.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm gonna say he's a State guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

I hope he is.

[Travis Kelsey]

I could, I don't know, kind of.

[Jason Kelsey]

Loser, says Michigan fan. Okay. State fans who went tarps off. Do we see. Do you see this?

[Keanu Reeves]

No.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's this? Video tarps off. Apparently one fan went shirtless in the second half and it grew to three full sections. I mean, there's nobody at the fucking game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, they're not very good this year, I don't think.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I can't award I first. I love the no shirts. And this would be epic if it was packed sections doing this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, it's packed right there. That's fucking bad.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's nobody at the fucking game.

[Travis Kelsey]

Travis, bro, that's packed right there. That section is packed, though.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not giving this any love. If it would have been bigger, I would have been all on board.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right.

[Jason Kelsey]

Rico Dowdle. I keep giving him the himi he had. I mean, again, Rico Dowdle went for more than 200, like 30 yards from scrimmage. He's fucking two games in a row. He's been fucking unbelievable. Torched his former team, the Dallas Cowboys. It wasn't even all, like, big runs either. Like, it was a lot of like 7 yard, 8 yard. Like, just like Man Mountain Dean coming downhill.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, I love this. He warned his former Dallas Cowboys teammates last week, week, they better get ready and buckle up. And then after the game, they wasn't buckled up.

[Jason Kelsey]

I wasn't buckled up. Oh, they weren't. Tez Johnson, one 45 yard touchdown reception and thought the crowd was chanting MVP for him.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, that's a funny one. It's a funny one. I'm thinking they talking about me. And so I asked Shep and he was like, yeah. I was like, I ain't do nothing this year. And then he was like, they talking about Baker? No, he's not getting a stamp for that. Texas A and M police Twitter account.

[Travis Kelsey]

What's this, Brandon, you haven't heard about this?

[Jason Kelsey]

No.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

This is the Texas A and M police Twitter account that you need to follow on Saturdays because they just tweet out the various students being arrested at games. So you get things like public intoxication. PA102, unable to walk. Given opportunity to call a sober friend. But he locked himself out of his phone.

[Keanu Reeves]

Arrested.

[Travis Kelsey]

The best is the third one. You got to read the third one. Public intoxication. Aggie park contacted subject eating a sandwich with a water jug of whiskey. The BAC was. You heard this right?.337.

[Jason Kelsey]

My God.

[Travis Kelsey]

Released to the EMA.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jesus Christ. Is that real? I like this. Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

This second one, These are all real. I had to look it up. Anything above 12.30 is, like alcohol poisoning.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're like, yeah, he was carbon up for the second half.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not gonna lie. I don't like any of these.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Oh, my God, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm gonna. Baby, I'm gonna do it because I think I. I think they earned it. I'm gonna give it to Cam Scaboo, the reincarnation of, like, a human dog. If I've ever, like.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey. I just love. There's something so refreshing about the mentality. Yeah, there's something so refreshing.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Those are stands. All right, let's get out of here.

[Travis Kelsey]

That does it. For Stamp of the Week, brought to you by Starbucks, your new protein coffee destination. How about it, man?

[Jason Kelsey]

Thank you to our sponsor, Starbucks.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Keanu Reeves]

What?

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's pretty awesome. All right. And if you want to switch things up, there's Ice protein Matcha waiting to energize your routine as well. Both available and sugar free to keep your goals in check. I'm not gonna lie, Brandon.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Don't lie, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is actually very good. I. I'm not a big fan of mixing protein with everyday items usually. But this, I could get on board with this. This is really tasty. You don't really notice the protein additive.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

That's what's so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just tastes like a. Yeah.

[Brandon (Producer/Contributor)]

Everything that's protein enhanced either has that grit or it's got that weird little artificial sweetness that you always like. You're like, oh, this is not a real thing. This is off. But it doesn't matter. However you want to level up your protein game, Starbucks is coming through. To help you out, try the new.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, man. Hit the gym. Hop in the car. I don't know. Curl up on the couch. There's always time to dive into something new and exciting. Writing.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Yes.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Home improvement.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's all there.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

How about that? Turn the boring workout into an adventure. Make your commute actually fun. Yes. Really. You can do it. Even folding laundry becomes entertaining when you got something that you're playing in your ears. You're not just going to the dry cleaner. You're swimming with mermaids. Whatever you want.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm pumped on Audible, man. That's the magic of Audible. It turns turns those everyday moments into something special you never. Who doesn't want to feel that special feeling? Because there's more to imagine when you listen.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

This is awesome, dude. K, you're a legend, brother. Congrats on everything as of late. And congrats on good fortune, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Absolutely.

[Keanu Reeves]

Thank you. It's a fun film. I had a great m. A great time making it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah, it's a fun watch, man. It's a fun watch.

[Jason Kelsey]

I was.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it, my guy? Oh, yeah, of course.

[Jason Kelsey]

Got the screener.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah, I'm in.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, you played.

[Travis Kelsey]

You played a hell of an angel, man. Tacos, baby. Who doesn't love tacos? Tell me about what it was like working with Aziz Ansari as a director.

[Keanu Reeves]

He was really lovely.

[Travis Kelsey]

He.

[Keanu Reeves]

He had a vision. He invited me to the vision and then was really collaborative. You know, I'd go to his house, we'd work on script, some rehearsals, some read throughs, worked with he and Seth Rogan legends. And so then just. He just kept working on the script, trying to make it better and better, get his kind of the tone and what he wanted the film to be about. And I really appreciated him inviting me into that process through the character.

[Jason Kelsey]

Gabriel, do you want to tell us a little bit in your Words about the film. I mean, I know obviously, you're an angel. There's. It feels like a very. Like, the trope has very much been done before of, like, you know, does money solve happiness? But I feel like you guys did it in a little bit different way, and you shed a more truthful light on it, I guess.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah. I mean, it's like an angel comes down trying to do better. He. He swaps a character who's kind of having hard times, and he's sleeping in his car. And with Seth Rogan, who's kind of venture capitalist, doing pretty well off. And in the typical kind of Body Swatch Switch movie, the, you know, the guy, you know, kind of see, I'm like, I. I expect. Gabriel expects him to see how the other half lives. And that money doesn't mean anything. And really, about something else in this film, it's like, well, no, actually, money can help.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's so good, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

It actually does make a difference.

[Travis Kelsey]

Why would I go back?

[Keanu Reeves]

He actually says, why, dude? Can you make me go back? And I'm like, technically, no. And I'm like, but you're not that kind of guy. You know, you're taking someone else's life. And he's like, yeah, yeah. Well, then let me just do it for a couple of weeks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

But through that journey, because then, of course, I'm kind of screwing up. I'm not supposed to switch these lives next. And when he doesn't want to go back, then I. I basically get fired.

[Travis Kelsey]

Man.

[Keanu Reeves]

I have to become human. And then I go on this journey of kind of seeing how they. They both are.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's some of my favorite parts of the movie, is you having to now be human and realizing what food tastes like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Food.

[Keanu Reeves]

Hamburger, chicken nuggies. And that was fun.

[Jason Kelsey]

I found it pretty funny because I feel like of all the celebrities of a list. Celebrities, when I think of them, you seem the most, like, down to earth. Like, figuratively and literally. Like, I see you go and taking public transport. You're walking down the street like you are with the people. There's nothing that, like, you push that, like, you are not connected to, like, the human experience.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Was there something that spoke to you in particular about like, what this. The message this film is trying to put across in that regard?

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I thought that it handled the kind of allegory or, you know, taking on a. A kind of tough subject of people, you know, having to work multiple jobs and. And. And he kind of. Aziz kind of takes on the perception of the American dream. And, you know, that can be not funny. And I thought he was really sensitive to representing that struggle at a certain level and. And coming to a place that that's, you know, not just about hope, but practical things. And sent in this in the sense of just. It's about friendship, it's about connection, it's about laughter, it's about heart. And yes, these other things are happening. But take that. Take the. Take what we have, what we can do, you know, take each other, reach out, be connected, you know?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Keanu Reeves]

Really. Just kind of backbone and the. And the riches of being alive.

[Jason Kelsey]

Beautifully said. Beautifully said, as always.

[Travis Kelsey]

Beautifully said, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I gotta ask you, would Keanu Reeves be a good angel or a bad angel in real life? How did you think you'd nail that?

[Keanu Reeves]

That's my job. Well, if I put my mind to it, I think I would.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'd be my angel Gabriel.

[Keanu Reeves]

He's just in charge of, like, texting and driving.

[Travis Kelsey]

So if someone's so good, dude, I love that. I love that it's separ. Traits, like, they separate the angel duties. Like, no, that's not your.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're in this department over here.

[Keanu Reeves]

You know, I. I look up to another angel, Azrael, who's like, you know, saving lost souls. I don't know. Could try.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I'm. I'm feeling you'd nail it. What? You haven't done a comedy in a minute. What. What. What sparked you to kind of go back into that genre?

[Keanu Reeves]

Well, I mean, John Wick's got some humor.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

But it's not a comedy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean, I love it. I love it. And I haven't. I hadn't done it for a while. I had done another sequel with Bill and Ted's excellent adventure Alex Winter years ago, but really since then, no, I hadn't done any. And it was great to work with Aziz and Seth Rogen, who's a genius. Yep. Sandra O. And Kiki Palmer's in it, and she. And I just, you know, it's fun.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey, there we go, man. Just have fun.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean, there's a lot of craft to it, but it's. But it's fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

That group that you just mentioned right there, man, that sounds like one of the funnest hangouts you could put together. It sounds like everybody's having a good old time for us versa, like non. Like professionals in the. In the movie world, in the film world. You were talking about how you and Aiz got together beforehand in terms of the Script and like to like build these characters or build like his vision on it. Like, how far in advance does that happen before you guys even start to film? Or is it just like a non stop, like ongoing.

[Keanu Reeves]

I don't know. I got the script a few months before we started filming. And then I would say probably the four weeks leading up to. Four or five weeks leading up to just meet a couple of times.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Keanu Reeves]

Just before filming a little more intensely, you know, because I was going a certain path with the character and he really wanted me to bring back some of the energy and. And lightness of previous roles. So he wanted a little bit of Bill and Ted in there. Did you ever see a film called Parenthood Hood?

[Jason Kelsey]

Of course.

[Keanu Reeves]

On Howard's film, a character in that. And he wanted some of that guy. So he wanted a little bit of. And I liked that. I mean, I liked this old soul with a bit of innocence to him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

But he really directed that and he gave me that note about three weeks before we started filming.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wow. And you can. And you can just channel it all. I mean, obviously you're one of the best to ever do it, but you could just channel it at all right then and there and really start to like, get ingrained in it from there.

[Keanu Reeves]

I had to bring a little bit back, you know.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go.

[Travis Kelsey]

There we go.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go.

[Travis Kelsey]

I had to knock the cob's webs off a little bit.

[Keanu Reeves]

60 years old, man. I'm like just.

[Jason Kelsey]

I.

[Keanu Reeves]

But it gave me light, it gave me energy, you know, and that. And it gave the character a kind of like, presentness, you know, way to see things that I think the viewer can take on his point of view, which was. Which was great.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, we got one last question with the related. If you could swap bodies or lives with anyone, who would you swap with?

[Keanu Reeves]

Oh, my gosh. I'm just trying to make it work in this one.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's fair.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's a fair one. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean, I'll give. Both you guys are involved in athletics, so let's do. Would. Let's go. If I was like, what would be a moment? Like, you know, we hear about those moments in sports where. Where they go. People go into the zone, you know, like where you. We're almost unconscious and you're just instinctive and you're doing that. And then I always. I love the Olympics.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

I love that someone. And like four years time coming up. It's crazy. One moment, right? And see you guys. It's like the whistle, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

You know, and, like.

[Jason Kelsey]

And now it's time, you know, everything you've worked for is gonna happen right now. You better get this bobsled moving.

[Keanu Reeves]

Imagine being like, I don't know. Usain Bolt breaking the world record.

[Jason Kelsey]

The fastest man in the world is.

[Keanu Reeves]

That's possible. Like a perfect dive.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean, go, America. Like hockey. I grew up playing hockey.

[Travis Kelsey]

Heck, yeah, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hell yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

Grew up on the ice, baby. That's what I'm.

[Jason Kelsey]

Toronto, Canada. You have to. It's like, you're not allowed to grow up in Toronto without playing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Exactly.

[Jason Kelsey]

What'd you play? What position? Position. What position did you play?

[Keanu Reeves]

I was a goaltender.

[Jason Kelsey]

Goaltender. Goalie, too. What?

[Keanu Reeves]

Net. Played net.

[Travis Kelsey]

And let's go, man.

[Keanu Reeves]

I think being in someone's body when being in an athletic body, achieving that one moment, like, whatever that was.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Heck, yeah. Well, I'm not gonna lie. We've talked about it before. For. For me, winning the Shoe bowl was kind of like that. And you feel like the people that make these movies, man, they fucking nailed it. Like, how did they do this? It's crazy. Like, I still remember Super Bowl 52, the last play of the game. Tom Brady goes back. We're going to win the game. We know that this is going to get completed. He throws the ball up, and I mean, a stadium full of 65,000 people, you don't hear a thing. It is completely silent. The ball feels like it's taking forever. Finally, it falls.

[Travis Kelsey]

Somehow while it's in the air, there's violins playing.

[Jason Kelsey]

I didn't hear that, but I remember. I remember running on the field, and I still. I'm, like, running on the field. Is this game over? And you still don't. Your senses are so in the moment of, like, what's happening up here that they're blocked out. Like, you don't. I. I. Until I saw everybody else celebrating. Then it almost like the. The sensation, like, rushes in all at once. It was. Is. It's. It's insane. And Trav talks about being in the zone a lot. He talks about it being blacked out.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It takes me a second to actually have to, like, process. Wait, what just even that just happened right there? Like, how did I just get hit that fast? And why are we 10 yards downfield?

[Keanu Reeves]

Do you guys find this, too? I mean, I. I mean, I did it. I mean, I. I went to a pretty high level in hockey as a junior. Junior. I mean, I didn't do Junior A or anything like that. But to me, it was like even when you were like, unconscious. It's so interesting. And this happens on stage too, how much you can also think.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. I think you have all those built up.

[Jason Kelsey]

It almost like frees up your thinking. Like you're not like bogged down overthinking it.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

It just feels like you just process it.

[Travis Kelsey]

You have all those built up instincts that you just been. You just been channeling and fixing and just making it so where. When you need to pull out that answer to. To whatever's going on, that instinct just hits so fast.

[Keanu Reeves]

And it's like the body knows, like your body. Like, I'm sure you're looking at people. People are looking at your hips and where you're going to turn and how do you.

[Travis Kelsey]

They don't want to look at the hips. They don't want to look at the hips, baby.

[Keanu Reeves]

Whatever it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

I know.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know, I got to ask you more questions about being a go. First of all, nine times out of ten, for anybody watching, whoever's the goalie is usually the craziest person on the team. Like, it's. It's almost always that way.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's the best guy kind of crazy.

[Jason Kelsey]

No doubt. What. What was your. What was your style in net? Are we butterfly? Like, were you. Did you have a weakness? What was your strength?

[Keanu Reeves]

So I grew up in an era in the. I guess, I mean, I started playing street hockey and ice hockey in the 70s. And then I guess my. My hockey was like 80, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85. So it was like. And high school hockey. I had a tryout for junior B team and then had a possible tryout for Jun Major junior A. But so I was kind of like a crossover style.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

So I. My 70s styles were more stand upright.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

You know, but I was so like Jerry Cheevers from Boston initially really kind of brought around the butterfly style while. But early days. And then There was like 70s Russian hockey, which was like trechiac, who kind of did the butterfly a little bit.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

And I was doing Jacques Plant, Bernie Perant.

[Jason Kelsey]

I was about to say Bernie, rest in peace, just passed away. Legendary flyer. I was gonna. You beat me to it. Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

And he was kind of upright. So I was like. I would get told I went down too much.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

Like, so I was like a stand up goalie with a little. I was stand up goalie first. So like in ice hockey, but in a butterfly position, you kind of kick out like here.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

You know, old stand up style. If you were going to do a skate save, you would turn out.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, wow. That doesn't make any sense, man.

[Keanu Reeves]

Right.

[Jason Kelsey]

So if you were exposure right there.

[Keanu Reeves]

Here. No, but, like, if the shots going low to my glove side. Right?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

You would go butterfly and stop it here.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right, Got it, got it.

[Keanu Reeves]

Go out.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes. Anyway, I've seen that maneuver now. Watching all the time.

[Keanu Reeves]

Old school hockey.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's good right there.

[Keanu Reeves]

I did some celebrity games, and I remember some of the players were playing like, you know, you're in a celebrity game, and it's like, oh, you can play hockey. I'm like, yeah, I'm okay. And then they're like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wow.

[Keanu Reeves]

You're like. They would say to me, it's like, wow. Playing against you is like when we played like in high school, like old time.

[Travis Kelsey]

So good.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love it.

[Keanu Reeves]

I had a good glove hand. Really fast reflexes, and I was positionally sound.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, it's at a good angle. I love it, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

We grew up playing hockey. I don't know if you know that Keanu. We played growing up, too. I recently got back out on the ice on just like, rented a pair of skates. Haven't been out there in like 10 years. There was like a. I just happened to stumble across this. I was trying to watch football games in Jacksonville, and for some reason, the sports bar was in an ice rink, and there were beer leaks happening all around me. And one of the guys like, hey, do you want to hop out on the ice? I'm like, hell, yeah. Let's go, baby. And I mean, I was like a deer. I like a baby deer trying to skate. I couldn't do it. I don't know. I blaming it on the skates. I'm hoping I still got it, but it just made me fall in love with. I just love being in an ice rink. The smell, like, everything about it. Yeah, it's like stale. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, man, I'm telling you, I hate playing in the heat in football when it gets to, like right now, to November and December and January, where it feels like I'm just breathing in a nice ride drink. Oh, man, I could go all day, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, we do want to ask some more questions. Is there a Mount Rushmore in your opinion of Keanu Reeves quotes like, what are your favorite quotes that you get throwing at you, like, routinely from your career?

[Keanu Reeves]

Okay, well, I'll just say some of that hit come on the street, like, you know, Gary Busey saying, you know, utah, two. Give me two.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. There we Go.

[Keanu Reeves]

It's not my line, but yeah, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a good one too.

[Keanu Reeves]

I did a film in the 80s called River's Edge where my character calls another character food eater.

[Travis Kelsey]

You just hear mother.

[Keanu Reeves]

I guess I've been known for saying, whoa, you know?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

Bill and Ted. Be excellent.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude. That's. That was the one I immediately think of. It's just such a great way to go about life, man. Man summed up perfectly. Be excellent to each other and Party on, baby.

[Keanu Reeves]

So sweet. Be excellent to each other. I don't know. Does John Wick have any? I mean, it's just a dog. It wasn't just a dog. Yeah, I don't know. He. He doesn't.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's more a quiet, calm, centered assassin throughout the whole thing. I think of just this maniacally.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that was crazy. He just came through the screen, man.

[Keanu Reeves]

Awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

Maybe that's the. What it makes you think. Oh, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, after good fortune, you're gonna be having cigarettes and tacos thrown at you, man. It's so good.

[Keanu Reeves]

It's not a bad day.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go. It's one of the things we love as humans. We'll get to our last segment, Big dog, and get you out of here, man. Our last segment is called we gotta ask, but you don't have to answer. You can tell us the off. But we would love. We would love to hear your. Your input on a few of these, man. First one, famously played Neo from the Matrix. As we just talking about. Are you upset? We apparently learned nothing from those movies.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, AI Is. How far are we out from just the Matrix being real, brother? Do you think about this? You gotta think about this, like a lot, right?

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yep. It doesn't seem like we're like moths to the flame. It's like we can't help ourselves, you know? If we can do it, we'll do it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes.

[Keanu Reeves]

We're doing it. And we don't know actually what we're doing sometimes.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that's what it feels like.

[Jason Kelsey]

What are the ramifications? What. What could go south here?

[Travis Kelsey]

How far does this go?

[Jason Kelsey]

Are we already there? Are we already in a simulation? I get. I go back and forth, man. I choose to believe. No. No. I choose to believe. No. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe I've just watched the Matrix too many times.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go. Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yes. I mean, the Matrix kind of is like gives a lot of, especially in the first three films, a lot of weight to reality. What is real what is real? And a lot of power to that question. And I remember a few years ago, I was at a dinner. Dinner, and the host had a couple of kids, like 15, 12, 13, 15, and someone. And one of them asked me to explain the plot of the Matrix. And I was like, well, I play this character and, you know, basically trying to fight for what's real against, you know, a simulation. And. And this young person goes, well, like, who cares if it's real?

[Travis Kelsey]

No way, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's. And I was like, oh, okay. All right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that's one way to look at it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah, that's where it's headed, you know, And.

[Keanu Reeves]

And it's. So it's like how we're going to value those that matter and who will care?

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, it's crazy.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm on the side of real.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's crazy, isn't it? Anyway, I'm on the real. I'm on the real side, man.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. All right. In point Lighter, lighter note. Okay. In Point Break, Patrick Swayze does a lot of his own skydiving. Are you known as your own stunts kind of guy? And like John Wick, obviously, we've seen all the action mov. Like, do you do a lot of your own stunts?

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah, I. I like to say, because it's true, that I don't do stunts.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, fair. Fair enough. All right.

[Keanu Reeves]

My son, double Jackson Spidel, got hit by a lot of cars. I didn't get hit by him a lot of cars. And Jackson was getting hit by cars.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

So if I'm there, if I'm doing something, like, I, you know, I really learned actually, with Point Break, and a wonderful stunt coordinator named Glenn Wilder was. And. And in a film called Speed, with a stunt quarter named Gary Hines, how can we put the actor into the action? Because then you don't have to cut away from the story and the character. And so you create a really good connection with the audience. And I really liked that and believed in that. And that's something that the. The Wachowskis on the Matrix believe didn't want to do as well. So I'll do as much as I can do, but if I'm there, it's not a stunt, and if I'm not there, it's a stunt because it's dangerous and, you know, so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, this brings up another thing I wanted. We wanted to ask you. You've done all these iconic action movies where you're. You're moving and. And fighting and running. Is it true that you got hurt doing this Last film. More than you got hurt in all these other ones. Like you're an angel, tapping people on the back who are texting, driving. All of a sudden, you hurt your knee. Is that accurate?

[Keanu Reeves]

Yep.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, no.

[Keanu Reeves]

Well, I was chewing a scene, and. And. And I was going back to the dressing room, which was at a residence, and they had a carpet laid down to protect the owner's carpet. And then there was a little section, and then I caught my foot. Foot, and I started to fall. And then I spiked my left knee. Like, dang. Just spiked it. And my left went like this. Oh, my kneecap. I had a vertical break. It didn't break the top and bottom.

[Travis Kelsey]

A vertical break. I've never heard of this.

[Jason Kelsey]

I've never heard of this here, so. Oh, my God. Just snapped right in the middle of it.

[Keanu Reeves]

Better than a horizontal break.

[Travis Kelsey]

Break.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, that's good. At least it's better than a horizontal. But that still sounds pretty messed up. Terrible. Did it heal? Like, how. What? What is it? Do you need surgery for this, or it all just heals on its own?

[Keanu Reeves]

No, but with the vertical, they just said, you know, I was immobilized and wore brace for basically 10 weeks, but I filmed while I had that. But until they pulled the blood out of the capsule. Yeah, the pain was banana cakes. Have you guys ever had, like. I'm sure your knees aren't in great shape.

[Jason Kelsey]

I have had that exact same fall, but it usually happens on grass or whatever. You don't break your patella. What happens is you rupture your bursa sac. So your knee just fills with insane fluid. Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just balloons up.

[Jason Kelsey]

I remember I burst a bursa sack one time, and for some reason, when all the fluid in there was pushing on a nerve. Deal with. Yeah, exactly.

[Keanu Reeves]

Move it. I was.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

When you went to drain it, it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Was like, oh, see, that's. Yeah, the drain.

[Jason Kelsey]

Get the CCs out of there.

[Keanu Reeves]

Oh, I think I had over 50 CCs. It was just like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's like. That can't be good. Oh, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, it's the worst.

[Keanu Reeves]

Anyway, so comedy is hard.

[Travis Kelsey]

Pick those knees up, baby. You played the. The V voice of one of our favorite TV shows, Severance. You played the voice of the lumen building in Severance. What was it? What was it like almost losing out on the road to Barack Obama?

[Keanu Reeves]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

Did you hear this?

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. Are we breaking news?

[Travis Kelsey]

We're breaking this news to you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Ben told us that. Yeah, he said he was thinking about Barack Obama.

[Keanu Reeves]

Barack must have said no. And I was like. I was.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my God.

[Keanu Reeves]

I was the second choice. That's okay. As long as I got the gig.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go. There you go.

[Keanu Reeves]

I'm not the first.

[Jason Kelsey]

If you weren't an actor, what would Keanu Reeves be doing?

[Keanu Reeves]

I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

We could ask that question a lot.

[Travis Kelsey]

Playing in the NHL or what.

[Keanu Reeves]

Hey, you know, I was. I probably. I mean, I was good, but I probably wasn't good enough. I always.

[Jason Kelsey]

When I.

[Keanu Reeves]

When I thought about professional hobby hockey, I always thought of just doing the Olympic hockey team. The Canadian.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

Hockey team might have been able, but probably not. But anyway, what would I be doing? I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

We get asked that same question, and I don't know either. I feel like once you've been going along with something for so long, it's like, it's hard to imagine what would have manifested without you doing that. I know it is for us when they're like, what would you do if you weren't a football player? It's like, I don't know. I coach.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

The only thing I can think of is what I wouldn't be. And it wouldn't be a landscaper, because my dad always used to look at me when I did the yard work and be like, boy, you better get paid by the hour. You ain't getting done. Exactly. Yeah. Taking my good old time out of nowhere, the. The rake is on the floor and the football is being thrown in the air to myself. What is the best piece of life advice that Keanu Reeves has ever got?

[Keanu Reeves]

I haven't had a lot of advice.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, you just been out here. I like it, though, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, take just living and learning, lots.

[Keanu Reeves]

Of living and learning. We're trying to. A lot of living, but trying to learn and advice, advice, advice, advice.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, what would. What would be the best advice you would give somebody?

[Keanu Reeves]

Oh, I'm, you know, I think, you know, I've been told the best advice was like, rest.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

Just like before. Just get some rest.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm with you, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm with you, dude, listen.

[Jason Kelsey]

There'S nothing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Better than putting your feet up after. After you've been working your ass off, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, if you're looking for an advice taking putting your head down and going to sleep is sometimes some of the best things you can do.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean, I guess maybe that's not good. It is good advice, but I think it's great advice. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Especially if somebody's looking for advice because then they're they've been thinking about it, right? It's like, man, how can I solve this? What can I do? And nine times out of 10, once you're in that state, it's like, all right, let's take a second and rest. Take a rest.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get a clear mind. Get a clear mind.

[Jason Kelsey]

Come back to that brain.

[Keanu Reeves]

I didn't get to clear the mind part.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, last question. And it can be good, bad, whatever you choose. Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment?

[Keanu Reeves]

Oh, welcome to Hollywood moment.

[Jason Kelsey]

We ask a lot of our guests who are athletes, welcome to the NFL moment, Whatever. Do you have a welcome to the industry, welcome to Hollywood. Welcome to acting. Like, is there anything that stands out where you're like, man, this is either what I want to do, or, yeah, go ahead.

[Keanu Reeves]

Sorry. I got paid when I was like, 16. So I was a professional act around 16, 17.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wow.

[Keanu Reeves]

In Toronto, Canada. And then I got a manager who lived in Los Angeles, and I ended up doing a movie of the week in Canada. Toronto. That got me an agent in LA.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

So at 20 years old, I drove in my car to Los Angeles, got out of my car, and my manager said, we want to change your name. And so that's like a welcome to Hollywood.

[Travis Kelsey]

No way. Did they have a name in their back pocket? Or, like, did they say no? So you didn't even let it get to that point. You're like.

[Keanu Reeves]

I was like, oh. And I remember I was like on the. I was on the beat. I was walking on the beach, and I was just like, my name. What am I changed my name?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

Ended up. My middle name is Charles. So I was like, Chuck. And I grew up on a street called Spadina. Chuck Spadina. And then I was like, something Templeton. But then I was just like. So then I became Casey Reeves.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my Casey.

[Keanu Reeves]

Casey Reeves, credited as Casey Reeves in the.

[Jason Kelsey]

In your first film?

[Keanu Reeves]

I think so, maybe. And. And wow. Maybe I think there is. And then. And then I couldn't get do it. So then I would be auditions, and they'd go, Casey Reeves. And I'd be like, I wouldn't even answer.

[Travis Kelsey]

I was like, somebody's got to call you, and you got to respond.

[Keanu Reeves]

I think, like, six months later, I was like, I'm not doing this.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

But that's a Hollywood moment.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Welcome to Hollywood, baby. Well, Keanu, we cannot thank you enough.

[Keanu Reeves]

Who's going to win the Super Bowl?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think the Kansas City Chiefs are rolling right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Big.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Those Eagles. Jason don't sleep on those birds, baby. We're getting rolling here.

[Travis Kelsey]

Do you, do you have a squad? You have a. Do you have a team? You're. You favor.

[Keanu Reeves]

Well, I mean, I've been, I've so enjoyed watching your. Your success. And, like, I've never became a Patriots hater. I always kind of was like, okay, I mean, they are what they are, but emotionally, I never got Patriots, but. But I still, like, appreciate. They had so many great players.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, you sure did.

[Jason Kelsey]

But I appreciate the excellent.

[Keanu Reeves]

There's a kid. It was the Steelers.

[Travis Kelsey]

Graceful. Sounds just like his. It looks just like his name.

[Keanu Reeves]

And then I liked, I liked, I liked Joe Montana.

[Jason Kelsey]

Joe Montana, baby. The chief of one person Point.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

In the 90s.

[Keanu Reeves]

I mean, I like that. And so now I'm.

[Jason Kelsey]

My.

[Keanu Reeves]

I guess my childhood heart is with the Steelers and that experiment that's going on, dude, it's.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, they're rolling right now. They're rolling right now.

[Keanu Reeves]

It's the experiment.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's something. They're winning. They're. They're. They're leading the north right now, baby. We did like a. A poll a few years back, and I've been on record as this. I think the Steelers is the best name in full football.

[Jets Jake (Jets Fan/Expert)]

Oh.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, I just. It's like, such a football. It's a strong name. It represents the community so well. Like, it's an embodiment of the people that built, like, literally built the city and a lot of the United States. I just think it's a fantastic, like, ethos to a city. And then, like, all the sports teams at Pittsburgh match with the black and yellow. Like, it's a very cool sports town, so.

[Travis Kelsey]

And the team always feels like it's rep. Like, that's what it represents. Like, the toughest toughness. And like this.

[Jason Kelsey]

You never lost sight of that.

[Keanu Reeves]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

And then they go out and get the biggest, strongest, fastest wide receiver in the NFL. It's like, all right, that's a Steelers move right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

I gotta say, Keanu, I can't thank you enough for coming on, man. I, I. Everyone check out Good Fortune. But I gotta say more than that, not only do I love you as an actor and what you've embodied in your films, you're tremendous. I just love your entire ethos, man. I don't, I know. I don't know, you know, you, but just observing from afar, I appreciate what you stand for.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know, the way you go about life and everything, brother. So thank you for hopping on this sports podcast.

[Keanu Reeves]

My girlfriend Hello, Alexandra.

[Travis Kelsey]

There we go.

[Keanu Reeves]

Your journeys that are going on. She's like got big love for all of that and so we'll send the.

[Travis Kelsey]

Love right back, brother. You already know.

[Jason Kelsey]

You just knew he.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, from what everybody says, you just knew. He was about to be the smoothest cat that we've talked to yet. He's such a good dude, man. And now I really, really want him to come out to Kansas City Chiefs game so I can hang with him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Did not disappoint. Fantastic human being. Unbelievable actor, unbelievable football player. Shane Falco.

[Travis Kelsey]

You can't tell me he couldn't have won a Super bowl with that Ravens team.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, listen, I got full faith. Full faith.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ex hockey goalie.

[Jason Kelsey]

Tough. I mean, just hand it off. Who was it? Jamal Lewis. Just hand off to Jamal. Was it?

[Travis Kelsey]

How fascinating was that for to hear him talk about the style of goaltending. Stand up versus Butterfly versus the in from the 70s to the 80s.

[Jason Kelsey]

When he was saying I was like, that sounds like Bernie Perron. I feel like he's speaking about Bernie said it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I wanted to get a Patrick Waugh reference in there, but.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, that's a way different style. But yeah. Do you remember dad? We would. I remember one time I'm watching, watching the Avalanche because that was the team I liked because we didn't have a team in Cleveland. I was a huge Peter Forsberg fan. And I remember dad kept calling, dad kept calling, patrick walk. Patrick Roy.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, like that.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's wa. And he's like, I'm American. That's Roy.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's such a prick.

[Jason Kelsey]

Alrighty, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Reminder, we are dropping the Replacements film club presented by Reese's Pumpkins. The best kind of Reese's if you know, you know on Friday with Keanu Reeves. Stay tuned to the end of this episode for a sneak peek of that conversation. Make sure you subscribe to the new Heist channel on YouTube and follow new Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episode New Heights ad free right now by joining Wondery plus and the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

[Travis Kelsey]

You heard the man. Once again, New Heights of Wonder show brought to you by by WhatsApp. Everybody get on WhatsApp and get connected to each other and and and be able to use the app and all of its amazing abilities. Follow the show on all social media. Add new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. We're gonna have a few of them from our our Episode with Keanu Reeves, man. Casey Reeves, thanks for showing up, man. Appreciate you Appreciate the time, the stories, the insight in the active world and everybody go check out Good for Fortune. October 17th. Thanks to the New Heights production team. We love you guys for making us look way better than where we are until the 92 percenters. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you next week.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, baby. Did you take any actual hits or was this mostly like body doubles and things?

[Keanu Reeves]

No, they were like, what, a couple. Like when we would run plays at full speed.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

You know, they would come in and basically they were all like, don't hit the guy. For the reason that we're all have a job.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, exactly. It's a good reason.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, that's very much like the NFL. It's very much like if you touch.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's exactly what it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

You are. You probably.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Talking yourself right out of this. Yeah.

[Keanu Reeves]

Helping us get paid.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. That's how it works.

[Travis Kelsey]

Golden rule, baby. I think you were. You were one of the most convincing film quarterbacks of all time. That's one of my favorite movies to watch. Is it true that the Ravens wanted to give you a tryout after this?

[Keanu Reeves]

That's absolutely nonsense. My release would have obviously been left. He was like, I don't know why, but we tend to have a lower release piece.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Keanu Reeves]

And I might. My getting that ball was a little slow, but I could hit like. I mean, it wasn't this on a rope, but like. Yeah, do like 50 yard corner or I could, you know, I could hit.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, hey, man, you're an athlete.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hell of a throw.

[Keanu Reeves]

Right then long seven and go. But, you know, don't start believing you can really do it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, listen, I don't know if you saw those 2,000 ravens, but you didn't need to be that good. I mean, I think the opposing average like 11 points a game or something like that.