Heights Hotline | Terrible Dating Advice For Kids, Modern Inconveniences, and Revoking Man Cards

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce — "Heights Hotline | Terrible Dating Advice For Kids, Modern Inconveniences, and Revoking Man Cards"

Release Date: February 27, 2026
Hosts: Jason Kelce (Philadelphia Eagles), Travis Kelce (Kansas City Chiefs)
Episode Type: Bonus (Heights Hotline Q&A)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This bonus episode takes calls from fans via the "Heights Hotline," where Jason and Travis Kelce humorously answer questions ranging from modern inconveniences to dating advice for kids and the much-debated issue of what actions might revoke a "man card." The brothers blend genuine life advice, playful ribbing, and over-the-top comic suggestions, all while diving into what it means to be authentic, modern manhood, and nostalgia for simpler times—all with their trademark banter and brotherly energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Deleting Modern Conveniences (02:04-04:11)

Prompt: If you had to delete one—GPS, streaming, or online ordering—what goes?

• Jason’s Take: Would delete online ordering. Misses the days of calling a restaurant, talking to a real person, and the lost art of food hospitality. "I want to go back to calling phones and these places. Picking up the goddamn phone." (02:49)
• Travis’s Take: Strongly agrees—neither can give up GPS or streaming (since streaming is their livelihood), and the phone call allows for more human connection and order customization. "I fucking love calling into order... if I don’t want fucking onions in something... now I gotta call in and I’m like, can I get no onions?" (03:15)
• Humorous Frustration: Lament that nowadays, places don’t even pick up the phone, and there’s less surprise in finding out about deals.
• Consensus: Online ordering is the disposable one.

2. (Not So) Modern Dating Advice for Kids (04:15-12:36)

Caller: Young kid asks how to ask out a girl.

Genuine Advice

• Travis: Start by figuring out what you like about her and using that as a compliment. "Let someone know that you like them... it's a good conversation starter." (04:29)
• Jason: The core advice is just to ask her out directly. "Knowing what I know now... you just ask her out, and then you go on a date, and then you go from there." (05:55)
• Both: Don’t overthink it, don’t try preset lines or tricks, just be authentic. "Who you are is good enough, bud." (08:36, Jason)
• Travis: "For the child who called in, please take that advice and call us back. I want to know how this goes. We're on the journey with you now, brother." (08:49)

Classic (Terrible) "Dad" Advice, Riffing, and Jokes

• Jason (invoking “Ed Kelsey tiparoo”): Befriend the girl’s unattractive friend to make her interested—immediately called “bogus” and “1950s way of dating” by Travis. (04:56-05:19)
• Travis & Jason: Start spiraling into intentionally terrible, humorous “bad boy” suggestions:
  • “You gotta be the forbidden apple.” (Repeated riffs, 00:45, 09:33)
  • “You pit two, then you’re the hot commodity. Supply and demand, my friend.” (09:23, Travis)
  • “It's called gaslighting. Now what you want to do?” (10:09, Travis)
  • “Try jumping into a trash can with scuba gear.” (11:15, Travis)
  • “Does your school have a jukebox you can hit? If you haven't caught on by now, all of us are old.” (11:56, Travis)
  • “Come in with an ounce of weed to school, you’re getting expelled. You'll be the coolest kid out of school.” (12:16-12:31, both, tongue in cheek)
• Jason: Brings it back—no shortcut, just be yourself. “There's no trick. You can read the Cosmopolitan magazines...it's all a bunch of nonsense. Just fucking—If you like the girl, you say, ‘Hey, I was thinking about going, seeing this movie. Would you like to go see it with me?’” (07:50)
• Supportive Messages: Encouragement about rejection—everyone gets told no, just move on, and it's normal. (08:59, Jason)
• Axe Body Spray Advice: “Make sure you put tons of Axe body spray on, tons.” (15:14, Jason)
  Travis: “Load it up. Go under the shirt, too. Fresh maker, just in case.” (15:19)

Notable Exchanges

• Travis (on advice books): “You can read the Cosmopolitan magazines...and it’s all a bunch of nonsense.” (07:50)
• Jason (re: authenticity): “Who you are is good enough, bud.” (08:36)
• Both: Urge the kid to call back and update them.

3. Revoking Man Cards: Can Men Sit Down to Pee? (12:45-14:35)

Caller: Is sitting down to pee enough to “revoke your man card?”

• Jason: “As long as they still have some balls, I think they still get the man card.” (12:57)
• Both: Strong consensus that there’s nothing unmanly about it—sometimes you’re tired, want to sit, or want to avoid making noise in the night.
• Relatable Dad Story: Jason references their dad relaxing in the bathroom while the kids were young—"Dad would read the entire Clancy magazine." (14:22)
• Tone: Supportive and anti-“man card” policing.
  • “There’s nothing unmanly about taking the old sit.” (14:02, Travis)
• Conclusion: Revoking man cards is silly; everyone does what’s comfortable. (14:35)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |---------------|-----------|-------------| | 02:49 | “I want to go back to calling phones and these places. Picking up the goddamn phone.” | Jason | | 03:15 | “I fucking love calling into order... if I don’t want fucking onions in something... now I gotta call in and I’m like, can I get no onions?” | Travis | | 05:55 | “Knowing what I know now... you just ask her out, and then you go on a date, and then you go from there.” | Jason | | 07:50 | “There's no trick... It's all a bunch of nonsense. Just fucking—If you like the girl, you say, ‘Hey, I was thinking about going…would you like to go see it with me?’” | Jason | | 08:36 | “Who you are is good enough, bud.” | Jason | | 09:23 | “You pit two, then you’re the hot commodity. Supply and demand, my friend.” | Travis | | 10:09 | “It's called gaslighting. Now what you want to do?” | Travis | | 14:02 | "There’s nothing unmanly about taking the old sit." | Travis | | 15:14 | "Make sure you put tons of Axe body spray on, tons." | Jason | | 15:19 | "Go under the shirt, too. Fresh maker, just in case." | Travis |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:55: Episode/Heights Hotline introduction
• 02:04: Modern convenience question: delete one (GPS, streaming, online ordering)
• 04:15: Caller: Kid asks for dating advice
• 12:45: Caller: "Man card" question about sitting down to pee
• 14:39: Episode wrap-up and miscellaneous advice (e.g., Axe body spray)

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Tone & Language

• Playful, irreverent, brotherly banter
• Mix of genuine (sometimes heartfelt) advice with frequent intentional tangents and satirical “bad advice”
• Frequent self-deprecation and nostalgia
• Relatable, frank, and sprinkled with light profanity—“just be you,” “don’t overthink it,” and “everyone gets rejected sometimes”

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Overall Takeaway

This episode is a blend of real-life wisdom, silly riffs, and classic Kelce brother banter.
Jason and Travis remind listeners that authenticity rules in life, whether ordering food, making your move, or just getting through the day. The “Heights Hotline” format provides a platform for relatable, laugh-out-loud exchanges, nostalgia for old-school simplicity, and the overriding Kelce message: relax, be yourself, and don’t take yourself—or “man cards”—too seriously.

Transcript

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[Jason]

women can't. Don't do this. Refrain from begging you. They can't help themselves. They have to eat the fruit. They see the apple, they need to eat the apple. If they were allowed to eat the apple, they wouldn't eat the apples. You got to be the forbidden apple.

[Travis]

No, I'm not really looking for anything right now. Do that drives him insane. I'm in fifth grade. I got a lot of stuff going on.

[Jason]

It's a tale as old as time.

[Travis]

You're 10 years old. It's called gaslighting. Now what you want to do? All right. Can you get your hands on cigarettes?

Welcome back to a bonus episode of your favorite show, your favorite podcast, your favorite brothers New Heights. That is a wonder show, and we are your host. I am one brother. I'm Travis. This is my other brother, Jason. Or I am the other brother to him because he's the first brother. Subscribe on YouTube, Wonder plus, or wherever you get your podcast and follow the social media tag at New Height show with 1s on all social media. Jason, should I do that again, or should we get right into what we have coming up?

[Jason]

I thought it sounded great, Trav. On today's bonus episode, we're going to be checking the heights hotline to answer your off season questions. Off off season questions. Let's get into it.

[Travis]

All right.

[Jason]

What do we want to go do first? Delete one Modern convenience. Sure. Let's go with that one.

[Travis]

Yeah, that sounds fun.

[Caller]

Okay, if you had to delete one modern convenience forever. GPS streaming or online ordering? What are you sacrificing?

[Jason]

Oh, those three.

[Travis]

GPS streaming or online ordering?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Travis]

I mean, why the.

[Jason]

What are we constituting a streaming?

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Is that anything on the Internet that you're like, watch. Like, is YouTube streaming? Because if we do cut that out, then I don't have a living. So streaming, online ordering. I don't want to cut that out. I mean, listen, I can do it. I could go back to Calling in orders on the phone. I got no problem with that.

[Travis]

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I order actually.

[Jason]

I want to cut out online ordering. I want to go back to calling phones and these places. Picking up the goddamn phone. Now you call phone number and the places don't even pick up.

[Travis]

Yeah, dude, that's so annoying.

[Jason]

I used to like calling and talking to the woman and be like, hey, how you doing? What's your favorite thing?

[Travis]

How do you know it's a woman? Huh?

[Jason]

I'm just. Scenario.

[Travis]

Yeah, this is a hypothetical. No, I'm with you, man. I'm with you. I think, I think there is a lost art in the food like world and there's like a. It just doesn't feel like when you go places that there's, I don't know, as much hospitality maybe. I don't know, I may just be a grown up and see things more clear now. But I'm with you. I'm with you. I, I fucking love calling into order. I think doing the whole app thing, you know, if I don't want fucking onions in something, I don't. And it doesn't have it on the app. Now I gotta call in and I'm like, can I get no endings?

[Jason]

Don't get me wrong, I use the apps, but I kind of like the concept of picking up the phone and calling the pizza joint and you know,

[Travis]

but yeah, see what kind of deals you got? I don't know. I don't want to read what kind of deals you got. I want to be surprised when you tell me and hear how you deliver the coupon.

[Jason]

You know, of those three, I think it's a no brainer. Online ordering.

[Travis]

Online ordering, Definitely not giving up gps. You wouldn't survive that.

[Jason]

Would not go well for me.

[Travis]

Just follow the North Star, Jason.

[Jason]

Just look up at the stars.

[Caller]

Hey, so there's this girl I really like.

[Jason]

Is that a child?

[Travis]

Yeah. I know that sounded like a kid.

[Caller]

How should I ask her out?

[Jason]

Well, yeah, how you like a girl and you want to ask her out?

[Travis]

I think first you got to figure out what do you like about her? Yeah, like what do you like about her? You like the way she looks, you like the way she dresses, you like how funny she is, you like how kind she is. And then maybe compliment that and that will get you in the door. Or at least you gauge how she reacts to that and then that gives you a better understanding of whether or not she would be willing to go out with you. But that's always a Good conversation starter to let someone know that you like them.

[Jason]

All right, I'm gonna give you the old Ed Kelsey tiparoo. You find her unattractive friend and you befriend her and you start making her feel like she's interested,

[Travis]

so. It's so bogus, Kid, do not listen to that advice. That is the 1950s way of dating.

[Jason]

Oh, my gosh. Well, here's. Here's what you do. You ask her out.

[Travis]

Yeah. There's no. There's no other way around it other than you just gotta. Just gotta do it, man. You just gotta own it. You gotta.

[Jason]

I would say, like, there. You can do.

[Travis]

Gotta have some cojones.

[Jason]

Yeah. I mean, you can. You can do the whole, like.

[Travis]

What's the word? She's gonna say no.

[Jason]

Well, that's the thing. And then tell everyone that you.

[Travis]

You asked her out and she said no.

[Jason]

They're gonna laugh in your face at your locker.

[Travis]

Okay.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Travis]

And then you're even. You're back even after that.

[Jason]

Yeah, I would. I would say just ask her out, man. Knowing what I know now. And listen, when I was younger, I didn't know how to talk to women. I didn't. I still don't really know how to talk to women. I'm a fucking Neanderthal. My wife Kylie reminds me every single day. But I think you just ask her out, and then you go on a date, and then you go from there. I wouldn't worry too much about it, bud.

[Travis]

Just have something planned because you got to have. You got to have something in the back pocket. So like I said, maybe have a conversation starter and then have a. Have a nice segue into maybe hanging out at the movies or at the mall, wherever your destination is. Got to have a destination of where you want to take her. That's enticing. And then, yeah, go from there, bud.

[Jason]

I wouldn't overthink it. I think you start trying to force the conversation.

[Travis]

Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, don't do all that.

[Jason]

They said to go here and say this and whatever. Just try and, like, talk to her. Like, be authentic. Take her out on a day. Be chivalrous. Open the door. Be courteous. Make some jokes at other people's expenses where it's just between you two. Hey, look at this idiot over here. Nothing brings people that. No, seriously, think of something that you want to do. Ask her out to see if she wants to go with you, and then just, you know, see what happens. I think that's the best advice I can give you. And then you just, you know, like Trav said, the worst that she could say is no. And then she says no. And then it's like, whatever. You move on to the next.

[Travis]

You keep it moving. There's gonna be embarrassing about tons of them.

[Jason]

There are plenty of whales in the sea. There's tons of plankton in the ocean. I don't know what the.

[Travis]

There's tons of whales.

[Jason]

Yeah, whales. Probably wasn't the best one.

[Travis]

Yeah, you. Listen, you're. If you're asking advice from us, you better figure it out on your own.

[Jason]

There's no trick. Let me put it this way. There's no trick. There is go. And, I mean, you can read the Cosmopolitan magazines and, like, all these things, and it's all a bunch of nonsense. Just fucking. If you like the girl, you say, hey, you know, I was thinking about going, Seeing this movie. Would you like to go see it with me? And then see what happens? She says, I want to go. Hey, I'm going to the mall. Do you want to. You want to go to the mall with me? Like, it's. Don't overthink it now. You just go have fun.

[Travis]

Just go be yourself here, kids. Start a podcast with your brother. Go on the podcast.

[Jason]

There you go. Don't try and make her like you, because then she's going to hate you. This was my crucial flaw with talking to females. I was like, okay, how do I impress them? Or how would I. Like how? Like I would think that I need to talk any differently? And then it's just like, who you

[Travis]

are is good enough, bud.

[Jason]

You're going down a rabbit hole. That is just unattainable.

[Travis]

Now you're doing too much. That's what Jason is. Don't overthink it. Don't do too much. Just be you, man. Yeah, just be you. Who you are is good enough for the right person. All right, man.

For the child who called in, please take that advice and call us back. I want to know how this goes. We're on the journey with you now, brother.

Joe Dirt.

Call us back. Call us back. I want to know how it goes for you, young man.

[Jason]

Do you know how many times I was told no? So it's gonna be fine. Not that she's gonna say no. Not that she's gonna say no.

[Travis]

Then you go right to her friend and you make her jealous.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Travis]

Now you have the upper hand. Don't listen to any of this. I don't. Please don't listen to anything I'm saying.

[Jason]

Talking to her friend, make it seem like you're interested. Laughing jokes like, your friend's pretty cute.

[Travis]

She's way cuter than you.

[Jason]

Make sure she sees you.

[Travis]

You pit two, then you're the hot commodity. Then you're the hot commodity.

You have to be.

It's supply and demand, my friend.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Travis]

It's economics.

Yeah.

Please ignore all of.

[Jason]

You're the forbidden fruit.

[Travis]

The tipping point is what Malcolm Gladwell calls this.

[Jason]

Listen, have you ever. Have you ever seen the Garden of Eden? Women can't. Don't do this. Refrain from begging you. They can't help themselves. They have to eat the fruit. They see the apple, they need to eat the apple. But if they. If they were allowed to eat the apple, they wouldn't eat the apple. So you got to be the forbidden apple. You got to go get that friend now.

[Travis]

I'm not really looking for anything right now. Do that drives him insane. Not looking to settle down. I'm in fifth grade. I got a lot of stuff going on.

[Jason]

It's a tale as old as time. Literally.

[Travis]

Sorry. Me and my friends are going out over here. You're not invited. Boom, you're in.

[Jason]

Boom.

[Travis]

Trick them. You're 10 years old. It's called gaslighting. Now, what you want to do?

[Jason]

Well, what are your strengths? We need to know more about you.

[Travis]

Yeah, we don't know if we don't actually. We might be on her side. Maybe she shouldn't date you.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Travis]

You're calling into a podcast for advice. I don't know if I like the sound of this.

No, we don't want to shame anyone calling into this podcast. No, no, no.

Keep calling it. Keep going, keep going and keep going.

[Jason]

You gotta have something that she desires in a man. What are you good at if you're not good at anything? You got to get good at something first.

[Travis]

You got to get good with nothing.

[Jason]

You're gonna get.

[Travis]

You're not forbidden. You're not forbidden fruit anymore.

Are you a class clown? Are you an athlete? What are we doing?

[Jason]

You're athletic. Show it off. If you're not athletic, be the smartest person in the class. If you're not smart, be the class clown.

[Travis]

Smart doesn't play.

[Jason]

Smart plays.

[Travis]

You're crazy smart. Definitely plays smart. Doesn't smart plays. I've seen the smart guy. That's all right. I've seen the smart guy get the girl before. I've never been able to play that.

Yeah, I was gonna say never really worked out.

[Jason]

Never even one of my cards.

[Travis]

No, I see the work, though. I see the work. Yeah.

Pretty good score on this algebra test. There's a fucking D on it.

[Jason]

Yeah. Women like men that are unpredictable. Okay?

[Travis]

Try jumping into a trash can with scuba gear.

[Jason]

That's right.

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[Jason]

That's right.

[Travis]

Pull a fire alarm, go up to

[Jason]

Mr. Johnson and kick him square.

[Travis]

Tell him to off. Women love a badass.

We need you to be a bad boy. Can you be the bad boy of the class?

You want to go up to the front of the class and say, I'm teaching this class. This. I'm teaching the class today.

Show up with a leather jacket, turn that chair around and sit down and be like, no, this is my algebra class.

[Jason]

Now here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna turn on nickelodeon around 11 o'. Clock. You're gonna see a show called Happy Days. And you see this guy called Fonzarelli. Just do everything The Winkler. The Winkler dude just do everything.

[Travis]

He just do everything the Fonz does. It works out great. Does your school have a jukebox you can hit? If you haven't caught on by now, all of us are old. Does your dad have a leather jacket you can borrow? All right. Can you get your hands on cigarettes? Okay, it's called Chris Stapleton's Traveler Whiskey. You're going to get yourself a bottle.

Listen, just come in with a fucking ounce of weed. If you come in with an ounce of weed to school, you're getting spelled. You'll be the coolest kid in school.

[Jason]

Coolest kid out of school.

[Travis]

Coolest kid out of school.

Somebody's gonna yell at me how much this we have to cut out, but that's fine. These are always the best ones.

I'm not gonna lie. It started off kind of whack. And this got so funny.

Oh, we're good now. Okay. Travis is fine with this one now.

All right, we're good. We can.

[Caller]

Hi, Jason. Hi, Travis. I was just wondering, do you think it's acceptable for men to sit down and pee or does that automatically revoke their man card? Just asking for a friend. Thanks.

[Jason]

Bye. Well, as long as they still have some balls, I think they still get the man card. I don't know if there's a disqualification for anything out there unless they want to be. I don't really know how that works,

[Travis]

but either way, whatever their preference. Your boat.

[Jason]

Absolutely not. I would. Why would it remove their man card?

[Travis]

No.

[Jason]

What man can't sit down and be. Sometimes you're tired, sometimes you just want to sit on the toilet. Yeah. You got something in your hand.

[Travis]

Sometimes it's a false alarm. You don't have to take a. Now you're just pissing.

[Jason]

There you go. Sometimes in the middle of the night, I don't want to have to turn on the lights.

[Travis]

Yeah.

[Jason]

In other words, when you get up in the middle of the night, you don't want to turn the lights on because you don't want to fully wake up and you just hear piss hitting the floor and you're like, God damn it.

[Travis]

I've never experienced that.

[Jason]

You've never experienced that?

[Travis]

No, man, I'm.

[Jason]

I'm definitely.

[Travis]

You missed the seat on everything.

[Jason]

I mean, I'm saying stop saying it's frequent, but it's happened.

[Travis]

Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. Ain't nothing wrong with it. It's a toilet as a seat on it. There's nothing unmanly about taking a. Taking the old sit.

[Jason]

They got a bad back. I don't know.

[Travis]

Maybe I want to keep. I. I want to scroll and see if something hits. So something hits me while I'm scrolling.

[Jason]

Listen, I got four kids. You know how many sit down peas I take? I'm enjoying this pee.

[Travis]

No. No wonder dad took so many shits when we were kids, man. Dad would read the entire town Clancy magazine.

[Jason]

I don't withhold from man cards from people that sit down.

[Travis]

Not. I'm not big on revoking main cards period, but yeah, all right.

[Jason]

Same. Especially if you're a man. All right, that wraps up another edition of Heights Hotline. We'll have some more bonus content for you all in March, so stay tuned. What am I being.

[Travis]

That's right. Once again, New Heights, a wondry show followed on all social media. Follow the show on all social media at new high show with 1s. And thank you to our production and crew again for getting us some much needed bonus content and a very fun bonus episode. This was hilarious. To the young gentleman seeking advice to dating a woman. Please call back it. We. We want to know how this goes.

[Jason]

Make sure you put tons of. Of Axe body spray on tons.

[Travis]

Always works.

[Jason]

Load it up.

[Travis]

Every time. Load it up. Go under the shirt, too. Go under the shirt, too. Fresh maker, just in case. To the 92 percenters. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time.