Kylie Kelce on Kid Meltdowns, Dude Gift Advice, Japanese Maples & New Heights Secret Santa | EP 172

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Episode 172: Kylie Kelce on Kid Meltdowns, Dude Gift Advice, Japanese Maples & New Heights Secret Santa
Release Date: December 24, 2025
Special Guest: Kylie Kelce

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Episode Overview

This spirited holiday episode of “New Heights” sees Jason and Travis Kelce welcoming back four-time guest (and Jason's wife) Kylie Kelce. The trio dive into all things family, including dealing with kid meltdowns, advice for those "dudes who can't shop," animal obsessions (Japanese maples and zoo animals—yes, really), and a festive Secret Santa exchange. There’s also hilarious banter about curling, parenting, holiday gift giving, and the “dumbest” kid fights submitted by listeners. Expect plenty of good-hearted ribbing, practical advice, and genuine warmth.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. New Heights Secret Santa Gift Exchange

(Starts ~03:00)

• The crew kicks off with their first ever team Secret Santa. Gifts are capped at $50, but creativity and personal touches shine.
• Memorable Gifts:
  • Intern receives a unicorn mug, symbolizing his “unique intern energy.”
    • “You are a unicorn, Brandon.” – Travis (05:39)
  • Jason gets custom Blue Man Group golf balls—a witty nod to an in-show bet—and a replica Super Bowl ring to replace one that Jake (intern) lost years ago.
    • “I can’t believe you really lost your fucking Super Bowl ring.” – Travis (08:23)
  • Travis receives an album of custom Kansas City player cards, including rookie cards and friends of the show.
    • “Are you kidding me? That sounds like a blast.” – Travis (13:05)
  • Banter about the nuances of card collecting, sentimental value, and the surprise joy of “friends of the show” cards.
• Segment Mood: Playful and competitive brotherly rivalry, with heartfelt thanks for thoughtful gifts.

2. Catching Up with Kylie Kelce

(Starts ~20:15)

• Kylie is re-introduced as the only four-time guest and a “Japanese maple superfan.”
• Lighthearted debate on Japanese maples as the “best tree for climbing and fall color.”
  • “I’m their biggest fan. We have two in our backyard.” – Kylie (20:45)
• Kylie reflects on her own podcasting journey, sharing her excitement at interviewing notable guests like Michelle Obama and Bindi Irwin.
  • “I got to talk to Michelle Obama. I’m still sweating slightly from that.” – Kylie (21:55)
  • Shares her lifelong love for animals—particularly giraffes, otters, and gibbons.
• Animal Tangent: They discuss unique animal facts, otters screaming “bloody murder,” and visiting newborn Galapagos tortoises whose mother is a 97-year-old Philly Zoo resident.
  • “Otters and orcas…they were so loud!” – Kylie (23:34)
  • “Their mom, 97 years old… her first clutch of eggs.” – Kylie (26:45)

3. Superstitions and Blame During NFL Games

(~28:00)

• Jason playfully blames Eagles’ losses on Kylie not turning her back during games—a running superstition.
  • “I’ll take it. There’s only so much control you have…” – Kylie (29:53)
• Kylie describes the lengths she’ll go in “sacrificing” her own fandom for the good of the team, riffing on sports fan rituals.
  • “It’s a selfless act… I want to watch this so badly.” – Kylie (30:29)
• Brothers take it to extremes (joking about “animal sacrifices” and blackout games) for comedic effect.

4. Sibling Curling Adventures

(~31:18)

• The Kelces and Kylie recount their attempt at curling in South Dakota at the Olympic Trials facility, with technical details on the sport.
  • “I do think it’s easier with the shoes, but… it wasn’t imperative.” – Jason (33:53)
• They explain curling strategy, pebbled ice, and techniques learned from Olympic curlers and commentators.
  • “It’s all up here.” – Travis (36:59)
• Kylie jokes her flexibility gives her the edge, but they agree a rematch is needed to settle who’s best.
  • “This could be the thing that gives me the upper hand.” – Kylie (34:20)

5. Kid Fights and Parental Meltdowns: Listener Stories

(Starts ~50:54)

• Listeners sent in their “dumbest kid fights,” and Kylie offers practical (and often hilarious) parental advice:
  • On a six-year-old insisting to drive: “Let them sit in the car, without keys, so they see they can’t reach.” – Kylie (53:23)
  • On time changing on a kid’s watch: “With a four-year-old, it’s about comfort and the need for routine. Just take the batteries out.” – Kylie (57:08)
  • On a child wanting to see their sibling’s poop: “That’s their business. Everyone gets bathroom privacy.” – Kylie (67:21)
  • On a nine-year-old calling a parent a “fat”: Kylie and the Kelces reflect on discipline, Santa threats, and creative (but gentle) consequences like soap in the mouth or removing privileges.
    • “You get called a fat by your kid… gotta scare them another way.” – Jason (63:01)

6. The Ultimate Gift Guide for “Dudes Who Can’t Shop Good”

(Starts ~68:02)

• Kylie rapidly evaluates the quality of various gift ideas for significant others:
  • Makeup: Only good if you KNOW brand/types; store lookup on account helps.
  • Fitness/Health Gadgets: “Does feel a little ‘fat’… unless she specifically asked, absolutely not.”
    • “Hey, look at this treadmill, you fat bitch. That’s so sweet.” – Travis (69:14)
  • Gift Cards: “Good to a store she loves… but not as the only present.”
  • Clothing: If unsure on size, err on too big rather than too small.
  • Candles/Jewelry: Candles are “yes” unless the recipient dislikes scents; jewelry is great but avoid the kind that changes skin color!
    • “If it’s going to turn your skin green—don’t get it as a gift.” – Kylie (75:10)
  • Kitchen Appliances / Mugs: Green light; personalized mugs are an “Ed Kelsey staple.”
• Kylie is presented with a “husband whistle”—a clever, if tongue-in-cheek, tool for summoning Jason to do chores.

7. Fan Mail: Show & Tell Segment

(Starts ~82:01)

• Jason, Travis, and the crew open gifts and letters sent by fans. Highlights include:
  • Custom hats, mugs, Cleveland animal calendars, and a “New Heights” coloring book.
  • “This really feels like Christmas, guys. I love that.” – Travis (85:16)

8. Miscellaneous Banter

• The episode wraps up with pondering over BBLs (Brazilian Butt Lifts) and if they provide “permanent seat cushion warmth,” demonstrating why New Heights episodes often run long.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Secret Santa Revelations
  • “Who doesn’t love some custom balls?” — Jason, opening custom Blue Man Group golf balls (06:35)
  • “You are a unicorn, Brandon.” — Travis, on a personalized intern mug (05:40)
• On Parenting & Kid Meltdowns
  • “There’s only few places in this world that you get to be just with your thoughts and your… and the bathroom is one of them.” — Jason (67:37)
  • “You can talk about the fat on your body, but you don’t say that about somebody else.” — Kylie instructing her children on kindness (62:24)
• Gift-Giving Wisdom
  • “If it’s going to turn your skin green, probably don’t get it as a gift.” — Kylie, on cheap jewelry (75:10)
  • “I feel like that’s an invasion of my privacy, but it’s a great strategy.” — Jason, on using store loyalty accounts to find the perfect gift (68:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Secret Santa Gift Exchange: 03:00–16:26
• Kylie Kelce Intro & Animal Tangent: 20:15–27:59
• Superstitions & Game Blame: 28:00–30:12
• Curling Recap: 31:18–41:09
• Listener Kid Fights: 50:54–68:02
• Gift Guide: 68:02–78:52
• Kylie’s “Husband Whistle” Gift: 79:29–81:29
• Show & Tell (Fan Gifts): 82:01–88:52
• Ridiculous BBL Banter: 89:13–92:08

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The Kelce brothers—true to form—balance heartfelt family reflections, practical advice, and relentless goofiness. Kylie brings a matter-of-fact parenting style with no-nonsense authority but matches the guys joke for joke. The holiday warmth, family banter, and relatable daily-life insights make this episode a standout for long-time fans and newcomers alike.

Perfect holiday listening if you want to laugh, learn a little about parenting, and not take life too seriously.

Transcript

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[B]

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[D]

Could be helpful.

[A]

I actually prefer to be in the shadows.

[D]

Yeah, Kylie with the dark sweater just.

[A]

Is like it's bringing holiday vibes.

[D]

When Kylie sits forward, I think actually and finds her light, it's much better.

[B]

Love. Actually not. That's what that movie should have been called. Love. Actually not.

[A]

Here we go. Starting off on the right foot.

[C]

Welcome back to New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a wonder show brought to you by Nike. I'm not wearing Nike, but I got these sweet Beyond Sanders diamond turfs.

[B]

Those are dope.

[C]

These are Nike. Pretty sweet. We're your host. I'm Travis cousin. My big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. As you guys know, Cincinnati Bearcat alums subscribe on YouTube onesie plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at New Heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, we have a very special cheerful holidays. Exciting. Why don't you tell everybody what we're doing?

[B]

Yeah, sure, 90 percenters. We've got a very special holiday episode. Kylie Kelsey is here. We talk for Japanese Maples. We get her gift giving advice and weigh in on some child meltdowns. And of course, get a sneak peek of her and Jason Curling.

[C]

Oh, there we go.

[B]

Which will be exciting. Kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She looks great. But first, for the holidays, we did something special as a team. And it's the first time ever. Surprising. We're all pretty festive individuals.

[C]

Very. We are. Yeah.

[B]

But. Yeah. Get ready for new heights. Secret Santa. Secret Santa is brought to you by Raising Canes. Thank you very much, Todd Graves and Raising Canes, for sponsoring a segment that we give each other gifts. You guys are the best. And with that intern, Brandon. Just shake, please. Come on in. All right.

[C]

Hello.

[E]

Happy holiday.

[C]

Let's get lit. Let's go. Let's get lit.

[B]

Jake, just curious. Is there a Secret Santa? Is that prevalent in the Jewish community, or is this something that is not?

[E]

I think so. Yeah. Like a Secret Maccabee type of thing.

[B]

Is there a. Yeah. Is there a Hebrew version of Secret Santa?

[D]

The hidden Hebrew.

[E]

It's. Yeah, the hidden Hebrew.

[B]

That works.

[D]

If there's not, we just started it.

[E]

I think we might have just started the hidden Hebrew.

[B]

All right, so we each gave each other gifts. There was a randomized, controlled, determined selection.

[D]

Of who was all told who had each other. There was a spending limit of $50.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

That was the limit.

[B]

I thought it was 25. Some of these.

[D]

We were given an order in which to open. I was told to go first. I want to make it clear I did not pick myself to go first.

[E]

It sounds like you picked yourself to go first.

[C]

I did not get it over with. We know you're excited. I know you're excited.

[D]

This is what I have. This is what showed up.

[C]

Let's do a little.

[D]

For the audio listeners. A little.

[B]

Good job. Amazon's loving this packaging.

[D]

We should have delivered gifts.

[B]

Shout out to Raising Amazon.

[D]

We should have done this in a raisin cane box.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

Sorry, Todd. We didn't think.

[B]

Thank you for sponsoring.

[C]

Sorry, Todd.

[D]

Okay, I have a cube. I have a cube.

[C]

I wouldn't shake it too hard. I wouldn't shake it too hard.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, I got a little cup.

[D]

I got a little cup. So for the audio, it says it's a little coffee cup. It says other interns. And it's a. I believe, a horse farting. And then it says me. And it's a little unicorn.

[E]

It's a beautiful gift.

[B]

This is a.

[D]

This is a very nice, very specific intern cup.

[C]

This. God damn.

[B]

Who.

[D]

I don't know who did this?

[C]

Oh, man.

[D]

This is a. This is a Jason. Is it a Jason?

[B]

It is a Jason.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We Did a great job of finagling.

[D]

This is a great. This is a great. This is adding to my mug shelf. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Jason.

[C]

It's a lovely guest.

[E]

All right.

[C]

You are a unicorn, Brandon.

[E]

Good start.

[C]

You are a unicorn.

[D]

Thank you. Good start, Secret Santa. Jason, you are next.

[B]

I am up next. All right, this is the box.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Put a lot of bubble wrap wrap in there.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I feel like this. It's gonna be like a book. Oh, I could see it being Legos.

[C]

Legos are always a banger.

[B]

Nice. This is gonna come in handy.

[D]

What do we got?

[B]

So we have golf balls, which ironically are in a blue package. For those of you who are aware of the Blue Man Group bet that we have in Tahoe this upcoming year. It also says my custom golf ball. So I have a feeling that these balls are going to have something on them.

[C]

Custom balls.

[B]

Hey, who doesn't love some custom balls?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

What's on there?

[B]

It's a blue man Travis. Kelsey, it's really hard to see.

[C]

You gotta back it out a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

[B]

I can't wait to crush these things. Actually, it's a blue man Travis and a blue man Jason.

[C]

Oh, wow. You got double.

[E]

You got both.

[C]

That's pretty goddamn good.

[D]

No, they're good. That's really funny.

[B]

These are awesome.

[D]

That's really horrific too.

[B]

Oh, man. Who made these? I. I feel like it had to be Jake because there had to be some type of like social media Blue Man Group expertise fanatics.

[C]

It was me.

[E]

Thank you. Shout out to our graphics department. They were very helpful.

[D]

Department department.

[E]

The two people that I went to for Photoshop help, I. So I'll say two things about your gift. One, I figured you could use a reminder while you were practicing for Tahoe. The other thing, and I do need Brandon's help here. So this is only part of your gift. Like we mentioned, we had a. We had a limit. And so, you know, I was kind of struggling to think of like, two guys who could have anything they want. The world. What is one thing that I could get them as a gift? And then I remembered I lost something of yours. So on the way is a. Brandon, if you would pull up the picture. It's a replica super bowl ring.

[C]

It is.

[B]

Again, I have felt terrible for the.

[E]

Last four years that I lost your ring in Skyline, Chile. It may or may not be currently stuck in customs.

[C]

I can't believe you really lost your fucking super bowl ring.

[E]

We went back and reviewed the footage and it is 100% my fault. He said, jake, go get it. And I just didn't hear it. So I have felt. I felt terrible. So a replacement is also on the way. Merry Christmas.

[B]

Thank you very much.

[C]

Jake.

[B]

This is. I can't wait to get this and actually see what this looks like, because this is gonna be great too. That cannot have fallen within the $50.

[E]

That's the thing. This is why was not. It's certainly not a realistic ring. I'll put it that way. We had 50 dol end. I went right up to that limit. But I swear I did not go over wondering what the craftsmanship on this ring is going to be like when we event.

[B]

So the rings. The rings plus these golf balls are both under $50, correct?

[E]

Yeah, I think it was 30. And the. And the golf balls were more expensive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Mary Chris looks like. Good luck with that. I'm also.

[E]

I'm pretty sure it says foes on the side of it. So you'll have that. You'll have that as well.

[C]

Well, that's a bad.

[B]

I prefer.

[E]

All right, my turn. I have a box.

[B]

Shake it.

[E]

We've got something wrapped.

[B]

Oo.

[C]

Oo.

[E]

That was a good collective.

[D]

Ooh.

[C]

Oh.

[E]

We got a box. This thing could not be more rap.

[C]

You're working for.

[B]

Please do not cut yourself.

[E]

They came really close.

[B]

All right. We got some. We got. It looks like a. No way.

[E]

It's a jet super bowl ring.

[C]

Irony.

[B]

That is awesome.

[C]

That's really funny. The irony.

[B]

Oh, my God. That's great. That's. Oh, this is sick.

[D]

You ever seen one of those before?

[E]

No, I have not.

[B]

Look at that. Look at this. Awesome. Well done.

[E]

I. I'm going to assume this came from Travis.

[C]

The old Joe naming Super bowl ring. Thank you.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

This is. And the. Unfortunately, the Joe namath goes for $50 and the nick Foles goes for. I believe.

[E]

These are significantly more rare. The Eagles have at least twice as many.

[C]

There you go.

[E]

Super bowl rings as the Jets. So we'll take it.

[C]

I thought it come with a fur coat. I thought it came with the fur coat. That.

[D]

That's next year.

[C]

That's next. Yeah. There you go. Just slowly turn Jake into Joe Namath. He gets the mutton chops.

[D]

All right, Travis, you were the last man.

[E]

Thank you, Travis. That was awesome.

[C]

Oh, yeah, baby. All right. Welcome to the kid in Hebrew. All right, here we go. A Kansas City book of some sort is zip this thing open and see what we got here. You know it a ton of player cards. Let's go.

[B]

Here we go.

[C]

And two of my favorites sitting right there in the front, baby. Let's go. Brandon, you got a card.

[D]

I didn't know that that came from a 92 percenter in Kansas City. She gave us a bunch of, like, our own custom cards. So. Yeah, you got. You got Borders rookie card in there, brother.

[C]

Borders.

[D]

There's also a. Wait, go to the Jason card. There's a Jason card. I got you.

[C]

There's two.

[B]

It was right in the beginning.

[D]

I got you a Jason draft diamond card. Now that is the closest thing you can find to a Jason Kelsey rookie card.

[C]

This guy right here.

[D]

That right there, that is Jason as a rookie. But they made this in 23. I believe it was minted. So it's you as a rookie, but they didn't make you an official rookie card. They made you, like a later.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[D]

He turned out really good.

[B]

I actually have. I think I do have an official rookie card, but it's not from when I was a rookie.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Every. Every player's, like, first card is technically their rookie card, but I think it's from, like, 2018.

[D]

When I. When I asked the guy at the card stores, like, you have Jason Kelsey rookies? He just looked at me like, what the fuck are you talking about? So that is. That's a picture of you as a rookie, but on a card made in, like, 2024. I went to my local card store. They just have these giant bins of football cards. So I went through a couple years and I made you a pack of, like, a bunch of chiefs and some friends of the show.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[D]

So they. They also, like, only cost, like, oh, nice. Each. So, like, I spent, like, two hours digging through cards just finding dudes. It is really fun to do.

[C]

Are you kidding me? That sounds like a blast.

[B]

That would be pretty dope to have cards from everybody who's been on the show.

[C]

Unstoppable Chris, Stone Cold Jones.

[D]

I found some good ones. I found some. There's a couple, like, really weird rare ones in there that I was really excited to pull.

[B]

Should even partner with, like, the artists that, like, make player cards to, like, make one.

[D]

Show them up. Show them, Travis. Show them.

[B]

Show them.

[D]

Show them.

[B]

Show them.

[C]

All of them. You got a good old cheetah right there. That thing's sweet.

[D]

Good cheetah.

[C]

I remember that play. I remember that play against Tennessee. One of the coldest games ever. Oh, nice, man. J Mac, baby.

[D]

Jeremy Macklin got a J, man.

[C]

Yeah, Eagle. And Chief Mizzou. M I Z. Old Lenny Dawson. RIP to the legend, man. Oh, that's.

[D]

That was. I was awesome pumped to pull that one.

[C]

Peyton Hill is. That's.

[B]

That's Peyton Hillis played for the Chiefs.

[C]

Yeah, he did remember that. I'm pretty sure it was right after the Cleveland.

[D]

I think he was right before you got there, but he was pretty sweet.

[C]

Card, So I figured 2011. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Madden cover.

[C]

I mean, God damn. Jamal Charles, NFL.

[D]

My guy.

[C]

Don Terry Paul rookie card.

[D]

It's a rookie. Those are rare.

[C]

Those are rare.

[D]

They don't just. They don't make that many of those.

[C]

One of the only defensive players to run, catch, and throw a touchdown pass in the NFL. And I think he's like the heaviest to ever throw a touchdown pass.

[D]

That's a great set.

[C]

Shady. Yeah, here we go, Shady.

[D]

I had to especially ask the guys at the store, like, where are the Jason Kelsey cards? And they're like, oh, we keep those in the back. And I'm not. No, I'm not kidding. You weren't, Jason. No, you weren't in the bin. I dug through your rookie year. I dug through super bowl after Super Bowl. You're thinking like, there'd be a lot of eagles in there.

[C]

Oh, we got.

[D]

There's no Jason.

[C]

Sweet.

[D]

You gotta ask. You're behind the counter, brother. That's an honor.

[E]

Surprise possession.

[D]

That's a prize possession.

[C]

Friends of the show and just friends of friends of friends. A little Joe Thomas. Some nice Alejandro Villanueva. Legend. Legend. That's a sweet card, too. All hands, team. Oh, that's a sweet card. All hands, team. Him catching a pass, right?

[D]

Look at him.

[C]

Pick six, baby. Old Greg Olson. We got to get him on G kitty. Let's go, baby. And then, Jules, what looks like in. In the Super Bowl. It's a Super Bowl Super Bowl MVP card. How about that? Yeah, that's sweet. Red gloves, baby. Swag them out.

[D]

Digging through bins of football cards is very fun.

[C]

And then Zach Erz, baby. Artsy and got you NER in the gang. Green, man.

[E]

Got all the T, baby.

[C]

Let's go. And then old school colors. Matt Stafford and his.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

Classic. Classic. Dude, this is sweet, man. But yeah, I put them all in my book card. Buying my card book.

[D]

Those are. That is your official.

[E]

Your official sleeve it book.

[D]

That's not official, actually. It's a bootleg Chiefs card holder. I had to keep it under 50, so the official one was a little pricey. The bootleg one under 50.

[C]

Thank you, dude. Yeah.

[D]

Happy holidays.

[E]

Happy holidays, guys.

[B]

That was New Heights Secret Santa brought to you By Raising Canes. Thanks, guys. Happy holidays.

[C]

Hey. Hey.

[D]

Let's wrap this up. We're waiting for Kylie. We're making a wait way too long.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All righty.

[C]

Thank you to our presenting sponsor, Nike.

[B]

Big day tomorrow. Trev, you ready?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I'm always ready, baby. It's game day. I'm game day. Ready, baby. Let's go.

[B]

Yeah. Game day. Well, there's. Yeah, there's Christmas. We'll get.

[C]

Yeah, but it's football on Christmas, which. Yeah. And our friends at Nike Basketball have something special coming tomorrow as well.

[B]

A Christmas surprise, if you will. And it might feature a friend of the show.

[C]

What? We have so many friends of the show. I wonder which one it could be.

[B]

Nike just getting started. And the answer will be revealed on Socials tomorrow. Oh, what the. You're not even gonna tell me you do a tease. That's how you do a tease.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

Ooh, Raising canes, huh?

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Shout out to Todd.

[C]

Always looking out with the foundation. And have you seen his Forbes cover?

[B]

Todd is always involved in things, man. This guy. This guy, really. His give a meter is through the roof.

[C]

I like through the roof. It's through the roof, man. Guy's got a good heart and he's got a good product.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

Crinkle cut fries.

[C]

I'm more of a fries in the secret sauce than I am the chicken in the secret sauce. Don't judge me.

[B]

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[C]

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Don't miss Cowboys Commanders at 1pm Eastern, Lions Vikings at 4:30 Eastern on Netflix. Our guest today for a very special Christmas episode. I guess she's already sitting right next to me, so you're probably already seeing her. She's the only four time guest in the history of new heights, very prestigious air. Previous record holder for the most viewed episode of all time recently broken by just a little bit. She's the host of a iHeartradios Best Emergency Podcast, one of the Apple pod's best new shows of 2025.

[A]

You.

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She's also the number one fan of Japanese maples. Both real and. Kelsey is back to the show, everyone.

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What's up, Kai?

[A]

Hi.

[B]

How you doing?

[A]

Doing?

[B]

You actually really do like Japanese maples. I think that's why I thought Japanese maple because I'm pretty sure we have.

[A]

Two in our backyard.

[B]

We do have two in our back. What do you mean? Your you know what a Japanese maple is. You know, you're right.

[A]

I'm their biggest fan. We have two in our backyard.

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I'll tell you what, the ones in your backyard are beautiful, aren't they?

[B]

Especially in a fall. Great tree climbing color.

[A]

Great tree climbing trees.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yep. For this, for this bit, I don't think we can talk about how you climb the Japanese people in the backyard.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

How you been? Congrats on everything. We're not gonna lie.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Crushing it.

[A]

Thanks.

[C]

You having fun? You having fun being a podcaster now? Like, you, like you're in it. You're in it, in it.

[A]

I'm very lucky to get to speak to the people that I get to speak to.

[C]

It's.

[A]

Yeah, it's very cool and I'm very excited when I get to learn from them and ask questions that I've had for a long time. But other than that, I Do feel bad that people are plagued with more of me.

[B]

I don't think anybody's upset about that. I don't know one person is upset about that. What's. Who's your favorite guest you've had so far? Can't say me. Can't say you. Can't see me.

[A]

Oh, that's exactly where I was gonna go.

[C]

Most surprising favorite.

[A]

I can't say you. Nope. Can't see me because I was gonna say. I mean, I got to talk to Michelle Obama. That was that. I think I'm still sweating slightly from that.

[C]

All right, nice. So you're not. We're not the only ones that do this, Jason. Nice. Perfect. All right, cool.

[A]

Cold sweats. I just got a chance to talk to Asia Wilson. She was absolutely hilarious and nice. Kind of trying to recruit her when the W comes to Philly in 2030.

[B]

So where'd she live?

[A]

No, she's in Vegas right now.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

So the Aces.

[A]

Yeah, Philly's fun. And I tried to tell her Philly loves their teams, and Philly's got a rally in a way that I think she would really enjoy, so there's that. I also got to talk to Bendy Irwin. I don't want to minimize that. That was like a childhood dream come true.

[C]

Really? Why is that?

[B]

It wasn't a childhood dream come true. Bendy wasn't even alive when you were a child.

[A]

I watched Bendy with her dad on the Crocodile Hunter when I used to watch Animal Planet after school.

[B]

How old has been to your one?

[A]

Not too terribly. Like, not a whole lot younger than me, really.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I say that with the assumption that I'm still 24.

[C]

I was gonna say she's 27, I believe.

[B]

27.

[A]

Did you just Google that? Wrote it in the rundown.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

That's only six years younger than me.

[C]

Were you a big Animal Planet kid?

[B]

Kylie's big. Big into the animals.

[C]

Huge, big into the animals. Well, now we got to go down. I was about to say we, Travis.

[B]

Well known otter lover.

[C]

Otters and orcas.

[A]

Do you know I just got to visit the otters at the Philadelphia Zoo because they were like, Uncle Travel loved this. And I was like, great, bring me in. They were so loud. Travening.

[C]

Were they, like, barking or how are they laughing? Squeaking, squealing.

[B]

I can see, like, a lot of scurrying. Like a.

[A]

It was like screaming bloody murder. It was crazy screaming.

[B]

Oh, that's. That's a bloody murder that we don't really.

[A]

It was loud.

[C]

Don't don't love that.

[B]

Kelsey's are loud. Kelsey's are loud.

[C]

Yeah, we're loud.

[A]

I was equipped. I was like, I could be in here all day between my kids and my husband.

[B]

I think I know your favorite animal. Do you think I can write down.

[A]

Your favorite animal and we could do it?

[B]

She talks about animals a lot.

[C]

Just say it on three. I'm gonna say it on three. One, two, three.

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Dress.

[A]

Yeah.

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They are majestic. They are majestic.

[A]

I always say they're my people because we're both tall.

[B]

They're tall.

[C]

Oh, nice. Yeah.

[A]

Travis is like, what the hell do you have in common with the giraffe? Weird. I do love an orangutan. I love a gibbon.

[B]

Gibbons.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

At the zoo.

[A]

Gibbons are so funny.

[B]

Gibbons are your favorite incarcerated animals.

[C]

Come again?

[A]

So what's a given a gibbon is they sort of have their face framed with a different color. And then they have really long arms, really long legs, and they swing. If you've ever seen there's a stuffy at the.

[C]

Gibbons are monkeys.

[A]

Yes. That have their hands velcroed and you can wear them as, like, a little necklace.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And they swing around like goobers.

[B]

Yeah, they're. They would do really well. Like, if we should do a wild animal ninja warrior, gibbons would perform extremely well.

[A]

Strength, grip, strength. Outstanding. Yeah, for sure. I love them.

[B]

So those are your land animals. What about sea animals?

[A]

I love a shark.

[B]

What is it about sharks? I hate them. I'm so terrified, actually.

[A]

I just don't really have problem. I just don't have beef with sharks the way you do.

[B]

There's just something that terrifies me.

[A]

I will say a sea turtle is majestic.

[C]

Sea turtle.

[A]

It is. A sea turtle is majestic. And the fact that you're not allowed to touch them. And I'm a rule follower.

[C]

Like an African tortoise.

[A]

No, like a real. A whole. Well, have you seen a. Have you seen a leatherback sea turtle? Those are huge.

[C]

I don't know if I don't know what I've seen. I just know I've seen an enormous turtle before. Big old sea turtle. And. But the shell goes, like, up. It goes, like, up and around.

[A]

Oh, and it's a leatherback.

[B]

It's a leather.

[C]

Those things are crazy.

[A]

They're massive.

[C]

Yeah. They live to be like 100 years old, too, right? Like 70 to 100.

[B]

All those big turtles. Unless you give them some type of, like, radiological sludge. And they live in the sewer.

[A]

You know, I just got to meet. I got to meet newborn galapagos tortoises.

[C]

Oh, no. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So what's. What's exciting about that?

[A]

Their mom, 97 years old.

[B]

Holy.

[C]

Is she still laying eggs?

[A]

She just had them. They're her first clutch of eggs. Her name's Mommy.

[B]

If you live to 200.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Are newborns older? Does that stretch?

[A]

I'm sorry, what?

[B]

Because it's not an old turtle. If it's like a hundred and it lives to 200, it's middle aged. So does every other. Like, is it adolescent turtle instead of being like a 13 year old? Adolescent turtles are 50. So it's a newborn turtle instead of like a zero to one year old turtle. Now we got like a zero to five year old turtles or newborn turtles.

[A]

He's trying to. He's trying to turtle math right now. He's trying to turtle math. It's not going well.

[C]

I was about to say. Yeah, I think he was.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Searching for it. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I think they're still. However long they've been on the earth.

[A]

I think it's just cool because. So mommy, the turtle that just. The tortoise that just had the dog.

[B]

So I'm essentially just.

[A]

She's been in Philadelphia since she was 4 years old. So she's been in Philly for 93 years, which is crazy.

[B]

She's been in Philly for 93.

[A]

93 years. Which means, like when I was growing up, I saw her at the zoo.

[B]

Yeah. It means when Lisa was growing up.

[A]

Isn't that cool? It like, crosses generations.

[B]

Has she been incarcerated the whole time?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What?

[A]

I'm just gonna let him have it?

[C]

What are we doing?

[B]

How have you been dealing with being dethroned by Travis? Better half.

[A]

Great. Yes. I'm always cheering on Taylor and everything that she does. So the fact that I finally got dethroned, it was. Welcome.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Taytay. Shout out to Tay.

[B]

There we go. All right. Are you tired of being tagged in pictures of Japanese maples?

[A]

Nah, fuck it. Literally. No, I'm kidding. Oh.

[C]

How quick does stupid shit we do on the show get back to you?

[A]

Very fast. Every night on my doom scroll. I get it. The most recent was when. Which I do want to set the record straight. You don't have to keep this in the show. When you said that you don't fight, you were joking, right? Like you were being sarcastic. The giggle afterwards suggested that you were being sarcastic.

[C]

What?

[A]

Because Emma tried to ask me about it on my rundown, and I was just like. I'm pretty sure Trav was joking.

[C]

Fight.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Fight? Who fight? Who do I fight?

[B]

Arguing defensive players.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, defensive guys. Yeah, I fight. I'm a fighter in that sense of it.

[A]

Great. Perfect. Yep. Continue.

[C]

Me and Tay, we. We definitely don't fight.

[A]

We don't either.

[C]

I mean, I can attest to it. I've never seen it.

[B]

It's not true.

[A]

That's fair. Doesn't happen often.

[B]

No. I think it's probably about the standard.

[C]

Well, let's start a fight. How do you feel about Jason blaming the Birds losses this year on you and you not turning your back to watch the game?

[A]

I'll take it. Honestly, he. That's so bad. I'll take it, though.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Yeah. I do feel responsible. There's only so much control you have, and it's what you can do.

[C]

Yeah. You got to control what you can control.

[A]

To be fair, a couple weeks ago.

[B]

That'S all you can control.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I turned it around trying to get some chief's magic. Like, we're. We're trying to. We're trying to spread the goodwill, you know?

[B]

What do you think it is about turning around that shifts the tides?

[A]

It's. It's a. It's a selfless act. It's a selfless act because it's like.

[B]

It's a sacrifice. It is a sacrifice of your own fandom.

[A]

Yes. Because I'm like, I want to watch this so badly.

[B]

So how can we up the sacrifice?

[C]

Sounds like you guys got to black out the games.

[B]

That's another. That's a big time sacrifice. I was going like animal sacrifice.

[C]

That's all in my head. Oh, what kind of animal would you.

[A]

Why do you always take it one step too far?

[B]

I'd be willing to sacrifice a cap.

[C]

That was uncalled for, but hilarious.

[B]

But, yeah. What would be an excuse?

[C]

You gotta go Jobu. You gotta sacrifice some chickens.

[B]

We'll start off with just a stink bug. Slid it right in half. Boom.

[A]

No, we're not sacrificing anything.

[C]

You gotta sacrifice a little.

[B]

If you gotta sacrifice, what's a suitable sacrifice? To take the sacrifice up.

[C]

Nice. Let's get out of this. Jason. You guys. Oh, nice. You and Kylie both just went curling. What we did.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Were you guys any good?

[B]

South Dakota.

[C]

You went back to old stomping grounds?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

About it. Shout out to gramps.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He was so excited to tell people. When people, everyone there was so nice.

[C]

You know, this isn't my first time here.

[B]

I used to frequent this neighborhood quite.

[C]

I've been here twice.

[B]

I'll tell you what. You get off that plane. You know what you don't remember? The pungence, pungent aroma of what? I don't really know.

[A]

Byproduct, I believe, was the answer.

[B]

Apparently there's a byproduct. I've heard mixtures.

[C]

What, do they got a glizzy farm out there?

[B]

I think probably more than just glizzies. Yeah, they got. They got some type of animal manufacturing facility. And then there was another one that somebody said it might be. But apparently when the winds are just right, it brings that right down into the sea.

[C]

When the winds are just right or just.

[B]

I felt bad. I got into our. Our. Our very nice driver's car, and I thought it was him. I thought he just had, like, bad bo. I was like, some weird thing happening. I was like, something is, like, rotting. I don't know what. There's like, a sulfuric.

[A]

That's what it was. Yes.

[B]

And then I got out of the car and it was just everywhere.

[A]

We got to the hotel room, for him to be like, that smell is still here.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I was like, he's been with us since we landed.

[C]

Is it me?

[A]

No, he straight up was like. For a second, I thought it was our driver.

[B]

Anyway, so soup also is great.

[C]

Soup also is great. Just curling was awesome. Yeah. Tell me more about curling. I want to know. I want to know where is. Was it easy? Was it.

[B]

No, it's not easy.

[C]

It's not easy. Do you have special shoes or did you guys just go. We.

[B]

So, no, there's one thing that I was actually very upset about with.

[C]

You didn't have the right. You got to know the terrain.

[B]

Gotta have the equipment, Gotta know the terrain. I've. I. But shamefully, I asked day of. I was like, so do you have. We have, like, shoes waiting for us, I'm assuming. And she's like, no, we're just going to tennis. She's like, how are we gonna. They're wearing, like, special, like, cleatsh. You don't.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not gonna. One shoes got. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, anyways, no, we did not have the proper footwear.

[C]

Well, that definitely makes it harder.

[B]

They have these, like, sliders, though, so you can do the start and then the ice, because it's pebbled, isn't really actually that slick. And some people don't wear the slider when they're doing the broom action sweeping. So it really wasn't as big of a hindrance as I thought it was going to be. This is kind of what I'm trying to say.

[C]

Oh, all right.

[B]

I do think it's easier with the shoes, but just. It wasn't that imperative that we had the right footwear.

[C]

So who won?

[B]

So we didn't really do a full game.

[A]

No.

[C]

All right, who's better?

[A]

I do think there is a chance that. Oh, no.

[B]

I do want to do a football chance.

[C]

Oh, let's go.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

That's technique. Right there was good.

[A]

There is a chance that I.

[B]

This could be the beautiful throw.

[A]

This could be the thing that gives me the upper hand.

[C]

Get it going.

[A]

Because.

[C]

Get it going.

[A]

It involves flexibility that someone.

[C]

You got to get in front of it. Jason.

[B]

I was in front of it.

[C]

Oh, no, I think you were to the side of it.

[B]

Well, you. You go to where it's going. So it was curling, so you got to sweep to, like, where it's going.

[A]

There were a bunch of.

[C]

I thought you were, like, steering it.

[B]

You. You actually can do that. I'm not good enough to do that.

[A]

You.

[B]

That's a relatively new development in the world of curling, apparently. So before, you would just try and sweep in front of it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But now they've found out that, like, if you put a certain spin on it and you almost, like, sweep to, like, move it in that area, you can influence it more, and that's kind of changed the sport in some ways. Tyler told me that. What's. What was Tyler's last name? Do you remember?

[A]

It was.

[C]

Sioux Falls.

[B]

No, we were with the. We were with the. The Olympic teams.

[C]

Oh, nice. It's the Olympic teams.

[B]

Yes. Yes. So that's what we were with.

[A]

What you have watched the brother sister combo that we were with?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Nice. It's usually brother, sister, or husband, wife. If I'm not.

[A]

I do believe there is one pair, one mixed double. That is husband and wife.

[C]

Married. Nice.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So, yeah, we were. Matt Hamilton was teaching us to sweep, who was on Team USA.

[A]

I still remember watching him and Becca in. In 2018.

[B]

Yeah. And then Tyler is, like, the main commentator for USA currently. He does all the Olympic. He's the color guy. He knows what he's talking about. Nice. Very good. It was actually. That was one of the fun things. We got to watch a qualifier right in front of us.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Stand next to him and talk to him the whole match. And we were talking a lot of curling strategy. Hammer action, putting up. I forget the terms. It's not a block, but it's essentially a block. Fuck. I do know offensive strategy if you want to. If you got the lead, you want to keep the middle Open. That's a concern. That's, like, a pretty, like, conservative strategy. You want to increase the difficulty and, like, make people go for shots and be aggressive.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You try and keep the middle closed. And generally, if somebody has a hammer, you want to close the middle. So if you're throwing first, that's why you'll see them throw up a block every once in a while to start off, which is in between the. The target area, whatever that was called again. And then, like, the line, you want to be, like, 6ft right in front of that.

[C]

It's all up here.

[B]

And you can't knock out a block. You can't knock out one of those until the fifth shot has been thrown.

[C]

Oh, see, I didn't know that. I was just like, why don't you.

[B]

Just continue knocking them out of there?

[C]

Yeah, just bully your way through there. No, that makes sense.

[B]

That's why.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

So, yeah. Had a blast, Kai. We did have a little competition. Kai.

[C]

Thank you. Thank you. Who was better?

[B]

Wait. We don't want to release this information because it is coming out on your channel. I want to have a legitimate match, though. They just kind of taught us the technique. We only did, like, a couple of things, AKA Jason. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure if I would have gotten.

[C]

I want to have a legit match.

[B]

If I would have got. Well, that's what I thought I was going for. I came away a little bit disappointed.

[C]

She got closer to the bullseye.

[A]

I don't think so. I think his throw was better. I think they gave me a. I there. I think that I was given a consolation, almost like a participation trophy situation. But I have full faith that because I am more flexible than him by.

[B]

Leaps and bounds, I will say my knee was hurt doing a full game. I don't know. I've been able to walk.

[A]

And we did. How many?

[B]

We did six throws.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Maybe you knew you were going curling and didn't bring a Diclofenac.

[A]

That was him warming up.

[B]

Gotta activate the glutes. Gotta activate the glutes.

[C]

Gotta get them glutes firing. Look at this guy. Oh, my God. What a fucking guy. All right, we're gonna start. All right, hold on real quick. I get over here and warm up.

[A]

That's exactly what happened.

[C]

Oh, we're starting. My bad. I'm not ready. Damn it. That's hilarious.

[B]

No, I do want. Trev. We've talked about curling a bunch. Everyone was talking about the. The facility that Jared Allen has down in Nashville.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Where it's like a recreational. It's like almost like a bowling alley for, like, curling. And he's big into the curling community and sport now. I think it'd be a blast while.

[A]

We were there that there's a curling club 20 minutes from our house.

[B]

Well, I knew about it.

[A]

Why didn't you tell me?

[C]

I was about to. Say, it sounds like you're with a shorter information falls.

[B]

Yeah, but no, I'm in.

[A]

And I. I may or may not.

[B]

I. Dude, I really think go together. You give me, like, a couple more throws.

[A]

I'm actually getting private lessons for girls.

[B]

We can be being competitive in this. And Trav, you give us a couple more throws. I mean, we're not like an Olympics, but I think I could. I could hold my own in the Philadelphia league. I feel very confident about that.

[C]

You just. You just told everybody you don't know if you'd be able to do a full game.

[B]

Yeah, but, I mean, I think about.

[A]

It the next day.

[B]

You'll be fine. I figure it out.

[C]

There you go. Well, that's fun. I've always wanted to do curling. Curling was always at the Cleveland Skating Club.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And so they did it on regular ice.

[B]

No, they had, like, curly ice.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Wait, what? There's different ice?

[B]

Well, that's what we were talking about. It's pebbled, and then there's like. So regular ice is flat. Right? It's just ice. Like a hockey ice. Curling is like, purposely, like. They spray it with, like, a hose to get almost. And that helps control. And the.

[C]

The.

[B]

The rocks actually slide further with the pebbling. It, like, doesn't. It doesn't have as much friction to it. And then the sweeping makes a bigger difference with the pebbles because then you're.

[A]

Like, slowly do that gesture solo.

[B]

The pebbles?

[A]

No, the sweeping. You're sweeping down here.

[B]

Sweeping. Sweeping.

[A]

Children.

[C]

Well, that's fun. You. You went. You went back to beautiful Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Did you. Did you see Mount Rushmore while you were there?

[B]

No, I forgot how far it is. It's a four hour hike west.

[A]

We did look it up before we left.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

No, we did not go to Mount Rushmore. We just did the curling.

[C]

You know, the old tale is there's a treasure somewhere around Mount Rushmore.

[B]

Is that a national treasure reference?

[A]

I was going to say. Is that cage looking for it?

[B]

Trying to remember. Was Mount Rushmore national treasure? I remember that.

[C]

Yeah, it was. I think it was like the.

[A]

I was gonna say. I was gonna say it definitely wasn't the first one. I think the first one was Philadelphia Declaration of Independence.

[B]

Wasn't it?

[C]

Liberty Bell.

[B]

The first one was Independence. There was definitely Philadelphia references. But I don't. I think where. When he actually got into like that little area. I don't think that was Philadelphia. Was it?

[A]

Pretty sure he stole the Declaration of Independence. Which is in Philadelphia.

[B]

No, it's not.

[C]

I am. I'm with Jason on this one. I didn't. I. I do believe it is. Has since been signed and then taken.

[B]

To Washington D.C. i'm pretty sure I know the Independence hall where they signed it. Is not aware of that. But I think like where it's held is in D.C. there we go.

[C]

Constitution Ave. Actually.

[A]

Sorry. Sorry. Just kidding.

[B]

We got the Liberty Bell though. They let us keep that capital. They let us keep the broken bell.

[A]

Guys. History was never my strong suit. I don't claim history.

[C]

Who knows if it's the truth or not?

[A]

You know, I heard Nicholas Cage still has the OG Declaration of.

[C]

That would be pretty badass. He's still spray.

[B]

He's still lemon juice all over it.

[C]

God damn. That movie is so.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It was a.

[B]

Why does the Declaration Independence smell like Lysol? It's got that. What's the woman that did the Lysol commercials?

[C]

Oh. Was it a fail?

[B]

I don't know. I want to see like one of these old Lysol commercials there. I don't know. It was just. I don't. I'm getting the image of the Lysol commercial lady and the Declaration. Independence. I think it sounds funny. I don't know why.

[A]

I gotta look at the next garage beer commercial.

[B]

Yeah. This might be.

[C]

Oh, here we go. We're gonna.

[B]

We're gonna put garage beer live on the Declaration of Independence.

[C]

That's brilliant. Brilliant. What does it decode?

[B]

It shows us where the. The national beer treasure is.

[A]

Golden Rye. What do you make it with? Wheat. Golden Wheat.

[C]

Ooh. Kai's onto it.

[A]

A field of gold.

[B]

Golden Wheat. Talk about hops.

[A]

Hops.

[B]

Thank you, Barley.

[A]

I don't drink beer. Why the would I know what it's made out of?

[C]

It's fair.

[B]

Why am I getting these light? I can't find these. Lysol commercial.

[D]

You've been thinking of the Pine Sol lady this whole time.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[D]

I've been sitting here just like biting my tongue for you to find it. But it's the pine.

[C]

Solid.

[B]

Did you know it? And it's not even like. It's not even lemon, is it?

[D]

I'm sure they Have a lemon.

[C]

Lysol is what every NFL locker room has next to the. Next to the can.

[B]

Pine Sol.

[A]

Oh, here he goes. I think we can just. I think we can let this one go till later. Nope.

[B]

All right, here we go.

[D]

Can you. Do you want to plug the curling episode? It comes out in February. I was told by Emma, if you want to plug that.

[A]

Yeah, I'll plug whatever Emma tells me to do.

[B]

So when does the curling episode come out?

[A]

Fafo episode of us with the. We were curling at the US Olympic Trials. Comes out in February.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

In February.

[A]

Just in time for the Winter Olympics. How timely. It's like Queen Emma lined that up on purpose.

[C]

I think she did.

[B]

Queen Emma.

[C]

Well, I can't wait to see you guys on the ice. The last time I saw Kylie on the ice, it wasn't too smooth in Kansas City on skates.

[A]

Weird.

[C]

Weird.

[B]

It's around this time of year.

[A]

We weren't gonna bring that up.

[B]

It wasn't pebble. It was pebble.

[C]

You looked way, way smoother on the ice right there.

[A]

Let me be clear.

[B]

It's pebble.

[A]

Travis, you have. I don't know what it is, but whenever we try winter sports, we're with you. You were with us when we were skiing in Aspen. We were together ice skating in Kansas City.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

None of which have gone in my favor that it's not. It hasn't gone in my favor whatsoever.

[B]

It's not. Not a winter sports.

[A]

I. My feet went out from under me like I stepped on a banana. It went straight out.

[C]

Keep the shoulders over toes.

[A]

It was straight out of a cartoon. My. Like, right out from under me.

[B]

It'll get you.

[A]

Thank God I was wearing, like, a full puffer coat.

[B]

That's a very underrated thing that people know ice is harder than concrete.

[A]

Hurts.

[B]

For those of you that don't know.

[A]

Hurt your ego, hurt your hands, hurt your pride.

[D]

I mean, so we've got a lot already. Do we want to do. Do we want to do kid fights?

[A]

What is the kid fights thing?

[D]

We had people send in the dumbest fights I've ever had with their child.

[B]

I like that. I'm very in on.

[A]

I thought you were talking about children fighting children. I was going to say our children didn't. They don't really fist fight, but I will tell you when.

[B]

Fight all the time.

[A]

No, they, like, fight, but they don't get into, like, a full fist fight. And the best part was is that your mom came in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she taught them how to. What is that called? The leg thing.

[B]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[A]

She had them lay. She had them lay down opposite each other and.

[C]

Oh, the leg wrestling. Yeah. Ooh.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I walked in and I was like, old school move. I don't even know if mom even taught us that.

[B]

Yeah, I vaguely remember that. My. Our dad used to actually sit us down in the living room and just have us wrestle.

[C]

Yeah. Which went great for me.

[B]

Like, rules.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like we would have one person. Okay, you're down this time. You're on all fours. Your hands got to be here. Grab a zobo. All right, Go.

[C]

I got. It was the worst.

[B]

I've been teaching Ellie the headbutt.

[A]

As if the poor child needs any more head trauma.

[B]

We just headbutt each other.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

Poor Ellie.

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[C]

All right, let's do.

[D]

Let's do some kid fights.

[B]

The other week we talked about the great Disney World waffle fight of 2025.

[C]

Between me and Wyatt, Iconic.

[B]

So we asked the night to. Presenters, please send in some of the dumbest fights you ever had with your kids. Kylie, as a mom, can you tell us how you would handle these situations? Okay, perfect. Here we go.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

From. I can't read. This guy's my trav. You read it.

[C]

Jay Richardson, New Heights. My six year old nephew had a meltdown because he insisted he could and should be able to drive the car.

[B]

Well, funny story. Travis did drive a car at 6 years old right through the back of our garage.

[A]

Wow. Wow. The story that I heard was that Travis is not fully to blame.

[C]

Well, yeah.

[B]

Who told you that?

[A]

I'm convincing.

[B]

Convincing, right. That's not gonna hold up in a court of law. Oh, I wasn't gonna shoot him in the head, but my friend told me it was a good idea. He's right.

[C]

You were there, huh?

[B]

I was there. I was at the crime scene. I was in. Loving the crime scene.

[C]

You were witnessing every bit of me walking it. Walking up to that car and putting the keys in there and then somehow getting that thing into neutral at the age of three or four, maybe.

[B]

We were still at the old house. So it had to be.

[C]

Yeah. I was, I think I was five when we moved to the heights.

[B]

It was four or five, I bet.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So impressive as someone with a four year old. Very impressive.

[C]

And to, to say I drove the car through the garage is a bit aggressive.

[A]

Didn't you.

[B]

Did you bump the door?

[C]

I turned the key. I don't even know if the engine started.

[A]

Jumped.

[C]

I think you turn the key, the. Everything turns on and then put it in, put it in neutral.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And then it just rolled and the weight of the car went. Broke the door on the garage.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

I, Yeah, I didn't, I didn't. I wasn't smart enough, I don't think. Yeah. To like put that thing in drive and be like, let's do this.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's get back to Jay Richardson's.

[A]

Okay, question.

[B]

Six year old nephew had a meltdown because what do we. Are we saying how we would handle a six year old?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How would you.

[C]

Yeah. What would you tell your kids if they insisted they could and should be able to drive the car? Do you just let them. You know, I'd give them the keys.

[B]

See how. Let's see how good you are at this. And then when they almost kill themselves.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I would. If it really got to a point where you are at a stalemate, I would, without the keys in the car, invite the child to sit in the front seat and have that. Like even if you got to put the seat all the way down and all the way back first.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

I would allow them to be like whelmed. Yeah. Like, hey, you can't see the road from here and you can't reach the pedals. How are you going to drive? This is a grown up job.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

I don't know if it was really a stalemate, but our girls are pretty respectful about the idea of like a grown up. That's a grown up thing to do.

[B]

They're not. Our kids aren't the big. Aren't very fearless. They're very fearful right now. We're still in that stage. Like they start screaming if they haven't buckled their seat belts yet, which is too new to me.

[A]

They really do.

[B]

Loser wants their seatbelt on in the back. You should be lying to me. Should be telling me it's buckled and then you don't have it buckled. That's what, that's what a kid does.

[C]

No, no. Wear your seat belts. Kids. I would say. I would say being the one that doesn't have any kids. Why don't you give them Just like one of those little like go karts. Give them the keys.

[A]

It says Uncle Trav.

[B]

The only problem.

[C]

Is she's still terrified to even get behind the wheel.

[B]

She's fearful.

[A]

I think Wyatt drove it on the other driveway.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why try to put it at the max speed. She was not having it. No, don't put it.

[A]

You got to put it one or two.

[C]

What is. I was gonna say what's too how fast that thing.

[A]

It was definitely like when you hit the pedal, it was like. Oh, like a little seat.

[C]

A little bit.

[A]

Yeah, a little bit. She didn't like that.

[C]

She'll get used to it. I've seen Jason throw her down the. The car slide where you put her in the. The little chair and you roller coaster. Yeah, that. That's going way faster than anything.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Absolutely. But try and rationalize that to them.

[B]

They have no. Yeah. They don't have a lot of rational.

[C]

Spell rationalize to them, let alone tell them about it.

[B]

Six year old nephew had a meltdown because he insisted he could. Should be able to drive the car.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Well, start playing music loud and just, you know, get to your next destination, I guess. All right, to the next one. Marion Beatty, my four year old had a meltdown because the time on his watch kept changing. Lasted one hour.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. We're all getting older. It's. It's a harsh reality.

[B]

I'm. I'm gonna. What four year old has a watch? What are we talking about? I'm so confused about this.

[A]

Travis literally gave Wyatt a watch.

[B]

Yeah. But she doesn't wear it or know what time.

[A]

She can't tell time months straight. To be fair, she wore it even when it wasn't charged, which was hilarious to me. She was like, gotta put on the watch. And I'm like, sure do.

[C]

Yeah, you do. It's accessory both for styling and telling timing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She would have no idea what the time changing or. I'm just so confused. Like is this baby's. Like it's actually seven o'. Clock. Oh. It's like. I don't.

[A]

No, I think the fact that I'm assuming that this was an.

[B]

This can't be happening. My life is over. Going so fast. What time's the train getting here? Like what are we talking about? I don't think this thing.

[A]

I think that these things are the equivalent of if you cut a sandwich raw, you know?

[B]

Yeah. It's just like getting them out of their comfort zone. It's just like that's not what they wanted.

[A]

Yes. And typically with especially a four year old you're talking about, they have a firm opinion on something. They. That's exactly how they want it.

[B]

All right, so how we handle this? My 4 year old had a meltdown because the time on his watch kept changing. Just take the batteries out.

[C]

Yeah, take the batteries out. Keep changing it back.

[B]

This one seems like a pretty simple one to solve.

[C]

Yeah, just keep winding that thing back.

[A]

Teach them how to wind it backwards.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, you don't want it to change.

[B]

Time is relevant. It's hard to know what watch time is relatively. Yeah, right. Yeah. Let me tell you about a person. Albert Einstein.

[C]

Let me tell you about time.

[B]

Time is relative. That's about all I know about the theory of relativity.

[C]

Theory of relativity. Go down a rabbit hole.

[B]

If you run fast enough. This watch will actually go back a movie on. It's called Back to the future. Marty McLeod teaches better than I can.

[C]

There we go. Oh, man, that'll have the kids glued.

[B]

All right.

[C]

It's a classic. The next one, buy the book at Pa Papa's Books. All right. This morning my nine year old called me a fat and proceeded to try to run away because we were forcing her to go to the dentist. Yes. Wow. How are you guys handling getting called a fat if I.

[B]

No comment.

[C]

Gotta keep this one in house. Oh, man. Nine year old too.

[B]

I only swore Donna Kelsey one time.

[A]

There's a reason.

[B]

And I saw that one time and.

[C]

I never did it.

[B]

I said mother foot. And then before that came out.

[A]

She laid it across.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I. In my. They weren't. Mom was not a hitter.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

I think it's the only time I was struck by mom.

[C]

You only need to be sure. All right, I'm sorry, Mama, I didn't.

[A]

What were you referring to as a. I don't know.

[B]

I think I just learned the. I don't remember it that well. I got a concussion.

[A]

Oh, my God. I have to be honest about that. Nine seems. Nine seems like aggressive.

[C]

That's what that's like. Fifth, Fifth grade. About fourth. Fifth grade.

[B]

This is what I would do. This is what I would do if my 9 year old called me a fat. I'll say. Santa. Santa just heard you. You think Santa's gonna accept that?

[C]

We're gonna see who's a fat. No having presents on.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah, dude, it's just the dentist. That's all we're doing. We're just going to the dentist. The dentist was always a good time for me and Jason.

[B]

Well, that's because we went straight to the popcorn shop afterwards every time.

[C]

Yeah. We got candy to enjoy later, but.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

After the fluoride treatment ran out.

[C]

Yeah. After we would play video games for 30 minutes in the waiting room.

[B]

Yeah. Freaking Mrs. Dr. Hall had the freaking. It was. What was Mrs. Hall's doctor name? The maiden name.

[C]

I forget her doctor name. I forget it. Man, I feel like an idiot.

[B]

Anyways, yeah, that practice was great. Headed like a Nintendo. Then upped it to a Super Nintendo. They had a Nintendo 64 out in the waiting room.

[A]

We only had Highlights magazines.

[B]

She had a good. It was.

[A]

And Where's Waldo books.

[B]

Where's Waldo? On the ceiling.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Maybe down the ceiling, but they were in the. There was like, in the thing, the.

[C]

I Spy books, though. Everybody had already circled every.

[A]

Travis is like. Somebody else did that.

[C]

Yeah, Somebody got to it before I did.

[A]

Was it you?

[C]

No. I would have, though. I would have ruined it for everybody.

[B]

All right. Yeah. I don't really know what else.

[A]

Feels old.

[B]

Nine feels old.

[A]

Nine feels old. Have to reprimand them for, first of all.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

I mean, like, when our kids say something they shouldn't say, right now, it's soap in your mouth.

[C]

Soap in your mouth. Nice.

[B]

So what are you saying with a.

[A]

Nine, how are you supposed to put soap in a nine year old's mouth? I mean, I suppose you could.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

I mean, they might. I mean, nine year old. Why? It's six. It's only three more years.

[C]

You're right. You're right. You just got to scare them another way. You got to scare them into where that leads to. Like, you keep calling people fat, you're going to prison. You got to take them to prison. You got to show them what prison looks like.

[A]

We did.

[B]

Nine year old is not nine year old.

[A]

You did have to explain to Wyatt the other day what, like, what the meaning of fat is. She did not like my explanation.

[B]

Here's about nine.

[C]

Please tell the people what your explanation fat is.

[A]

So she asked, what does fat mean? And I said, well, fat is a layer of your skin. I said, everybody has fat. It's all over your body. It's in your face, it's in your legs. It's all over. Everybody has fat. She was like, yeah, but what does it mean? And I knew what she meant. She meant, if I were to call someone fat, what does that mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, what am I. What am I calling them?

[C]

Yeah. And why do they not like it?

[A]

Yeah. And why is that? Terribly mean. And so then I said, what do you think fat means? And she said like chubby. And I was like, yeah, that can also mean that. And she was like, okay. And I was like, but you don't call people that. You can talk about the fat on your body, but you don't. You don't say that about somebody else. And she was like, huh?

[B]

It was.

[A]

It was. It was not. It doesn't seem promising, but we'll see.

[C]

And also, calling someone fat is completely different than calling someone a fat.

[A]

To be fair. Wyatt. Wyatt test drove the word a couple times, did you not? Well, the one time I do remember, she used it in proper context, which wasn't difficult. Ellie was inside the house and Wyatt was closing the front door, and she went and closed it really slowly and said it at the same time. And as soon as I opened the door, she was like, sorry. And immediate. Buyer's remorse. Immediate. Yeah, because she knew what was coming. It was a. It was a bar of soap.

[C]

Did you give her the bar of soap or no?

[A]

I don't know that she got that time because she had buyer's remorse very quickly. But she has gotten it before, which is why she knows I'm not joking about a bar of soap.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

You can't do empty threats. That's what. You can't do that.

[C]

You can't do that.

[A]

Well, this might be a waste of time.

[B]

I don't know if I'm. Bar soap is too. If a 9 year old's too old for a bar of soap, but it's not two year old to strike fear into for sure.

[A]

I mean, I would. I would maybe go so far as to look up pictures of people without their dentures in and see how she feels about that. Be like, this is what happens.

[B]

We're gonna have to address. We're gonna have to address the fat thing before we get to the dentist.

[A]

I just feel like.

[B]

Listen here, you short, get the upstairs. You're a timeout.

[A]

Yeah. Also, nine is such an awkward age. Like, what do they have that you can take away, huh?

[C]

Everything.

[B]

What is their freedom.

[C]

Everything. Air jam.

[B]

You're entitled to take away. All of it.

[C]

Yeah. God damn, that's good fat.

[A]

And like the crazy part is, is that child heard it somewhere.

[B]

Anywhere nine year old.

[A]

Nine year old has access to the Internet. Like, well, time.

[B]

I don't have access to the Internet.

[A]

A lot of nine year olds nowadays have access to the Internet hours.

[C]

That's pretty scary, I think.

[B]

I think they can hear it at school. They could hear it on like a TV thing. Probably at school. Yeah.

[A]

Nine year olds. Yikes. Fat is so nasty.

[C]

That is so aggressive.

[A]

So aggressive.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of.

[A]

The word like unless it's in a playful way. I just don't. I don't think it holds a lot of weight.

[C]

Yeah, you get called, you get called a fat by your kid.

[A]

Gonna say that. I get called a often I was gonna be like, you know what? Sometimes I wear it.

[B]

Not funny. All right. My daughter, 4 years old, serious. Throwing a fit because her brother, 6 flushed his poop before she could see. I mean that's a very. I get told every time I'm wiping Betty's ass. Don't flush the to toilet. I want to look at it. Which I understand. I'm 38 years old and I still look at my. Before I flush it.

[C]

You gotta, you gotta, you gotta take a look at it.

[B]

It's just proper like hygiene and it's important to understand if you got issues.

[C]

You gotta know, you gotta know, you gotta.

[B]

Don't flush it. But yo, you gotta take a look at that.

[C]

Yeah, you gotta see how you're.

[B]

I'm kind of with. I'm kind of with the four year old being upset about this.

[A]

I will tell you. I have an embarrassing number of shits in my camera roll that are child. Let me, let me clarify. They're from children. When I've sent them to Jason when we were potty training then like I would be like, hey, look at that. That on that in a toilet.

[C]

That's what happens when mom's at the house.

[B]

The accomplished.

[A]

Yeah. So I did realize that the other day that my, my camera roll has.

[C]

Some good in it.

[A]

A good 8 to 10 photos of a toilet.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna tell you. I'm. I'm with the 4 year old on this one. I think you need to represent the six year old. What the you doing flushing that before anybody's taking a look at it? All right, that's.

[C]

No, no, no. If it's damaged, it was his.

[A]

Yeah, he's trying to. Four year old growing sister should have been able to see.

[C]

She wanted to see his. And he flushed it.

[B]

My brother, my daughter 4 year old throwing a fit because her brother flushed his yes for. Oh, well, yeah, I mean that's not your business. All right, now I kind of get it. Now I kind of get it. All right.

[A]

I can't. That's his business.

[B]

You just gotta say like, listen, everybody's is their own. You can't be Getting your involved with.

[A]

Other people in the bathroom. You get privacy. Everybody knows that.

[C]

You get your own. Only you get to look at that.

[A]

You have to handle your own.

[C]

You can. Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There's only few places in this world that you get to be just with your thoughts and your. And the bathroom is one of them.

[A]

Yes. It's so bad.

[C]

All right, well, it is the holidays, so let's get to a little Christmas. Let's talk some Christmas here with Kai. Kylie, can you help us with the new heights gift guide for dudes who can't shop good?

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Nice. We'll give you a genre of gift and you tell us. Good. Bad.

[B]

Trash.

[C]

Awesome idea for the fellas that are listening to the show. All right, our first one, we're just gonna rapid fire these things.

[E]

Makeup.

[C]

Good.

[A]

Bad.

[C]

What do you like?

[B]

Should we buy. Buying makeup for you?

[C]

Should we be buying makeup for women?

[B]

For women.

[A]

For women. If they enjoy it. I think it's very obvious when a woman enjoys makeup. You can determine that on your own. For me. No, don't.

[B]

Should men just be buying makeup without knowing the specific makeup?

[A]

No, but you can go into certain makeup stores and look up their account based on their phone number and know what their frequently shopped things are.

[C]

Wow. There you go, boys.

[B]

Is that. It feels like stalkerish or good gift giving. I mean, it does. It's a great strategy. I just. I feel a little.

[C]

I feel like actually kind of brilliant by.

[B]

I feel like that's an invasion of my privacy. But these companies, companies, I mean, maybe.

[A]

They will fight you, but I think that they will.

[B]

All right, well, all right, you try next one. Anything health or fitness related? Is it a fat.

[A]

It does feel a little fat.

[C]

Hey, look at this treadmill, you fat bitch. That's so sweet.

[A]

You're asking the wrong person because I would say. Yes.

[C]

I was gonna say if you got like a peloton or something cool. Women, right.

[B]

Of everyone. So I would go with more general. Not just more general.

[A]

I would say pro. Unless she explicitly asked for it. Absolutely not.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Absolutely not.

[B]

Are there degrees for that? Like health. Health related. I feel like there's some in there that won't feel like you're trying to send a signal.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna say, but what if you are trying to send a signal? Signal.

[B]

Well, listen, sometimes don't. Sometimes a little nudge.

[A]

Don't period.

[C]

What if you'd write on the card, we could work out together.

[B]

Can't wait to use this as well.

[A]

I'm telling you right now.

[C]

You go first. Though you.

[B]

You get her. You also buy her a set of maiden voyage. You also buy her a set of pants that are a size smaller with the car that says you could do it.

[C]

A little extra. Motivation.

[A]

No. Aggressively.

[B]

No gift cards.

[A]

If it's to a store that, you know that she shops. Yes.

[B]

I think.

[A]

Yeah, I. I think some women might find this to be a little impersonal.

[B]

But I think it depends on the relationship with the person you're getting the gift from.

[A]

Agreed. But also with online shopping, then she's guaranteed to get something she wants, and it'll come right to her door.

[B]

I just feel like if you. It's somebody special, I wouldn't roll into the holidays with just a gift card.

[C]

Good man. Right there. It's good. Best advice Jason's ever given. Right there.

[A]

Yes. Honestly.

[C]

What about just nice clothing?

[A]

Sure. I don't see why not.

[B]

I would air like a funny T shirt or. Yeah, you can also send some signals there. Airing smaller or bigger?

[A]

Smaller.

[B]

That would make you more mad.

[A]

Yeah, I. If you get me something, I actually want to wear it, and if I want to wear it, I would rather it be too big than too small. I am in the minority. Don't do that.

[B]

I was about to say, I think you're sending bad advice.

[A]

I'm giving bad advice. Don't do that. Yeah.

[C]

If you're gonna go for clothing smaller, I would say you get these.

[B]

20. You think I'm a 20?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

He doesn't even know. He doesn't even know. He literally has no idea. He picked a random number.

[B]

Let's be honest. Women's sizes don't make any sense.

[A]

They don't.

[B]

Men's size is the actual circumference of our waist.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Or diameter.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What are women's sizes? They're just arbitrary numbers.

[A]

They're different at every store, in every brand.

[B]

Makes no sense.

[A]

It doesn't make any sense at all.

[B]

All right, she's a size 34 waist. What should we say? That's a four. Yeah, just drop the three.

[C]

Get that three out of here. We got to get this into single digits somewhere.

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

Some. Some pants are stretchy. Yeah. Those are the kind I like. I think some pants are similar to men, but then there's others that are 2 through 20 something.

[B]

So there are women's pants that have the same sizing as men.

[C]

Go waist size. All brand specific stuff.

[A]

Yeah, it is. It's so dumb.

[C]

What about scented candles?

[A]

Yes. I would love a scented candle, but we're not Allowed to burn them in our mansa.

[B]

Candles. All right. Jewelry, jewelry.

[C]

How do I feel about candles?

[B]

No. I don't like chemicals just being burned and thrust into the air for me to be breathing in all day to get brain cancer.

[C]

Oh, my God. That is quite the hands.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not. I don't think it makes any sense. Why would I want some artificial flower thing in the air that some person made in a lab from some combination of vegetable this and that and this essence? I don't want it in my face.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Although I do like the charcoal deodorant. I do like deodorant. I'm charcoal cologne. I'll go that.

[A]

But the he does.

[B]

The senate candle, it's just like, no.

[A]

You don't like perfume. Perfumes either. When we first started dating, it was like, I don't like lipstick, I don't like perfume. I don't like scented candles. And I was like, well, I don't wear lipstick. I barely wear.

[B]

You're making this seem like I was giving you ultimatums. This is not how this went down. Natural discussion. And I just said that I'm not a fan.

[A]

That's true. That's true. I'll give you that.

[B]

And now Benny just puts lipstick on all day. And I just like.

[C]

I love Benny. Jewelry. The gift that we thought to give our mother every birthday and Christmas, in particular.

[B]

Earrings.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

The jewelry part was not the issue. She eventually had. Is the problem is she eventually had 50 pairs of earrings.

[A]

To be fair, I feel like your mom mixes up her jewelry quite a bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that a now thing or is. Was that a. When you were growing up?

[B]

Because I'm lying to you.

[C]

If I told you I think it's a now thing. She might. I remember she was always like, like presentable and look nice.

[A]

Now I've got all these earrings. I might as well.

[C]

I think that's what it is.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think she just, over the. Over time, she's just kind of accumulated. Yep.

[B]

Jewelry is usually not a good idea. Most women don't like jewelry.

[A]

God. Jewelry is a great idea because there's varying degrees of jewelry.

[C]

100.

[B]

Is there a bad degree of jewelry? Like, would you get something from like. Like being like, oh, this is not it.

[A]

Yeah, don't.

[B]

I'm mad.

[A]

I don't know that I would be mad. I just think that if it's going to turn your skin green, probably don't get it as a gift.

[B]

Skin green. That's a thing.

[A]

Women know what I'm talking about.

[C]

Yeah. And Also, they shouldn't be selling those things.

[A]

No, they shouldn't, but they do. So let's avoid them.

[C]

Is there how long into a relationship relationship. Is there like a time frame that you should be in a relationship before you go the jewelry router. Is jewelry always like acceptable?

[A]

I feel like it's.

[B]

Jewelry is like the opposite of gift cards. Do you think gift cards, you can go in a very like low level relationship? Maybe just a friendly co worker relationship. Nice gift card. If you show up with like a really nice pair of jewelry to a.

[C]

Co worker that's gonna send some mixes of high alert.

[A]

He had to bring up love.

[C]

Actually, I didn't even real. Well, that was. Yeah. He was getting a necklace to the. What was it? Secretary.

[A]

Secretary.

[C]

Yep. Yeah. Well, you shouldn't be buying.

[A]

I think there's a great spectrum of jewelry that I think that you can hit anytime in a relationship. Like you could get a cute pair of little studs for someone and that's. That's sufficient.

[C]

What about like kitchen appliances? I will say what, what if one of today's favorite gifts that I got her was the bread slicer.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[C]

Because she's. She's throwing together so much sourdough. Gosh. Got the best gut health there is. I love you T. And it is true.

[B]

Like one of the unfortunate things with making fresh bread is trying to cut that it is hard and, and it's a big deal.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

More importantly, the responsibility to eat it.

[C]

What?

[B]

Oh, no, that's the easy part.

[A]

I take it upon myself to crush it as fast as possible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that, that's probably not great.

[B]

No, it's all. It's fresh.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bread. If it's not like, if it hasn't been like.

[A]

No.

[B]

Preserve the preservatives in there and made shelf stable nuts. Healthy.

[A]

So good.

[C]

What about like, like beauty products? Like, like red light mass and like red light exfoliating creams.

[A]

He has no idea what you're talking about. I think that those, the people who would love receiving those gifts. You are going to be able to tell because you can go into their bathroom and see that they have the exfoliators and all of the different night serums and all of that.

[C]

The mist. The face mist.

[A]

Yes. If you know their beauty routine. Their nighttime routine is a lengthy one. This is probably the category for you on gifting. Some of those products are expensive.

[C]

Yeah. So you're turning back time.

[A]

Yep. You are.

[B]

How do you feel about a mug with like world's best mom on it?

[A]

I'm pretty sure. Your dad got me that.

[B]

That's a bit of an Ed Kelsey.

[A]

Staple, I think with pictures of like a picture of our family.

[B]

Nope, that's. That's Ed Kelsey staple right there. You go to a local screen printing shop and you'll get some mugs made.

[A]

I love our cabinet right now. This is not a joke, guys. Dead ass. We have it in our cabinet right now.

[B]

Is it a good. Is it good?

[C]

And get some mugs.

[A]

It's literally a mall kiosk.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. That's so good.

[B]

It's like, all right, December 4th. Yep. Head to the store.

[A]

To the mall kiosks.

[B]

Head to the mall.

[A]

I'm fine. That's a good. That's a good gift.

[B]

I'm just asking. I don't know.

[C]

Nice. Well, this has been the new Heights gift guide for dudes who can't shop good. And Kylie, thank you so much for.

[A]

Probably some of the worst advice.

[C]

Oh, God, no. I think they got got. I think they got somewhere for sure.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. So make sure you get those pelotons, guys. This episode is releasing on Christmas Eve, so hopefully you've already done your shopping, guys. But good luck all the fellas. Yeah, there's tips for next year or your next relationship if it doesn't end well this Christmas. We have one last thing for you, Kai, before you get up out of here. And it's one last segment before we get up out of here. And since it's the holidays, we wanted to get Kylie a gift from the show.

[A]

This can't be good.

[C]

It's gonna be so good.

[A]

Oh, no, this can't be good. I think this is the kiosk that Ed Kelsey goes to. She's Candy personalization mall.

[B]

Can we lift this up now?

[A]

That doesn't contain our address. Yes.

[B]

Show. Show.

[A]

Do I know what this is?

[C]

What is it?

[A]

Wait, what?

[C]

Not what she thought it was.

[B]

Oh, you show everybody.

[A]

What are we doing?

[C]

It's a husband whistle. Anytime you want Jason to do some chores to get his attention to get the done.

[A]

Now it says boyfriend whistle.

[C]

Go ahead. Go ahead. Give that thing a run. Let's hear it.

[A]

To be fair, I got a built in one.

[B]

Yeah, Kylie doesn't.

[C]

Yeah, good call. It is. I've seen it in action too. It definitely works.

[A]

I'm excited about this, though. This is. This is good. Don't. Don't try and take my whistle. This is not for you. This is for me. Thank you so much everyone at the new Heights team. You know what's funny? When I shook It. And I heard it. I thought to myself, am I getting a Kelsey Bell?

[C]

Kelsey Bell.

[A]

Ooh, because we have yours.

[B]

We have.

[A]

Yeah, we have an ornament that is a Travis. It's like the little bear and it's a bell. Oh, it's an ornament. We'll give it to you eventually. It's on our tree right now.

[C]

No, it can stay there.

[A]

I thought first listen. But if you. I thought it was a bell.

[C]

It definitely sounds like that. I know exactly what you're saying.

[A]

No, it's just to boss my husband around.

[C]

Get your done. Jason.

[B]

I need.

[A]

It's only the trash. It's only the trash.

[C]

I need taking Kylie. This will be again a record setting episode for us. So thank you guys so much.

[A]

No, it won't. But happy holidays.

[B]

Merry Christmas.

[C]

Thanks for joining us, guy.

[A]

Anytime, anytime. Don't.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

That's a lie. Don't.

[B]

I'm busy.

[C]

We will exhaust.

[B]

All right, here's the deal. You guys have been mailing this stuff all year and we finally decided to show some of it off. We don't know what's in the boxes. I think intern Brandon or just Jake. Whoever's handling the P.O. box does know. But regardless. Welcome to new Heights show and tell brought to you by Netflix.

[C]

Oh, shout out to Netflix, baby.

[B]

It is the holiday season, so we figured it's only right that we opened some of the presents some of United Jupiter Centers have been sending us. Yeah, let's do it.

[C]

Let's do it. I'll get the first one because it's not even wrapped. And it's one of the coolest things that I've seen since I was there. And that is the Chicago ESPN zone hat, baby. Oh, this thing fits like a glove already. Look at this thing. Jason.

[B]

That thing is so fast. It something lifechanging. When we first went into the ESPN zone in Chicago, it was like a. It was an incredible experience. It was insane.

[C]

I was like, I was made for this. This is my home.

[B]

The coolest thing ever. There was like the. There was like the. There's the indoor, like, there's like the little ice rink inter thing.

[C]

That's the one I remember.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And they had the same thing with basketball too.

[B]

All right, I have. I don't know if I should.

[D]

Yeah, open that one.

[C]

Travis package. I will drink a lot of beers out of this. A lot of beers will be.

[B]

Have drinks.

[C]

Look at that. Look how sweet this. This is craftsmanship right here.

[B]

Check out this.

[C]

Pure craftsmanship.

[B]

Just says Greg.

[C]

Oh. So we Got to say who it's from.

[B]

I don't know this. It just says Greg right here.

[C]

I'll say it, but it's just a.

[B]

Nice cute dog with the.

[C]

The.

[B]

The dog pound hat on. Look at those floppy ears, man. That's adorable.

[C]

Oh, nice. The dog pound, baby.

[B]

Yeah, dog pound. I mean, it's like a baby dog pound. Oh, here's from Greg. From one proud Clevelander to two others who never forget where they came from. Thank you. Inside the box are a few pieces of my world as a pet and wildlife animal photographer based here in Cleveland. My 2026 Rex U dog calendar, the 2026 Gatsby, the Galaxy Kitty calendar, the 2026 Foxtail Sanctuary calendar. All filled with animals who remind us and why it matters. Portion of sales from all calendars go to organizations who take care of animals who need us the most. I also had a photo I took of a rescue otter for the Cleveland Trav. That must be in yours. Check your box now for your otter. Thank you, Greg.

[C]

Yeah, Greg, thank you. Oh, since we were talking about forging our own knives.

[B]

Yeah. Knife action.

[C]

Oh, yeah. How does this work? Oh, yeah.

[D]

Be careful, be careful, be careful, be careful.

[C]

Nice. Man, this thing's sweet.

[D]

Wow, Jason, you have one of those, too?

[C]

Damn, this thing's legit. Oh. Oh. Whoa.

[B]

I got some things for the Trin Water.

[C]

Shout out to the Heights Heights alumni. Cleveland's finest. Oh, this is awesome. Let's go. I'm from Cleveland Heights. Let's go. Jason, look nice. That's legit. This is just. This really feels like Christmas, guys, this is crazy. I love that. I'm gonna start drinking coffee out of that. Thank you, Jen.

[B]

All right, somebody from Marjorie S. Merry Christmas, everyone. Jason and Cali, hope you enjoy these and your girls fill them with love. If you would like matching ones for the girls, I. Let me know. Who knows, I might make them. Anyways, we got a dad, eagle stocking.

[C]

That's legit.

[B]

And a mom. Wonder Woman stocking.

[C]

Nice. She is. She's Wonder Woman.

[B]

Thank you, Marjorie. Marjorie. Sounds like somebody who knits.

[C]

Found my otter.

[B]

That's awesome.

[C]

Look how happy this little guy is. A little girl is nice, dude.

[B]

I got an ESPN's own thing, too. Dude, this thing is that. This thing has been worn. Hells, yeah.

[C]

That thing looks so sweet. That's a great color.

[B]

Wait to rock this thing.

[C]

That is a great color on you.

[B]

You know, like, when it's been, like, got, like, mildew, it's just been sitting in a box forever. Smell. Oh, that Smells so good. That thing is awesome.

[D]

Jason, did you find your knife yet?

[B]

Yeah, I got my knife. It's pretty incredible.

[A]

Incredible.

[C]

It's cool, right? Very cool, dude.

[B]

Extremely dangerous.

[C]

Extremely dangerous.

[B]

I like that. It goes back in. I don't know how they did that. Yeah, so it's like a double spring mechanism. Man, that's cool. Well, this. This is. There's a whole letter to you, intern Brandon. I don't know if you read this.

[D]

Probably. Which one was this?

[B]

Dear Into. Brandon, if you're reading this, this means you've laid eyes on my masterpiece. A true work of art that took an entire day of my life to color. Oh, yeah. I need you to pass it along to Jason. Dress before I start crying on the floor. My name is Am Am Am. I'm 22, graduated from Florida State last December. And I started Chloe and Maisy Company, a coloring book brand inspired by my two dogs.

[D]

Yeah, she made a custom, like, New heights coloring thing.

[B]

10% of all proceeds is donated to animal rescue. Nice.

[D]

And I think there's some stuff in there for the girls to color.

[B]

This is from Emily Otter.

[D]

Dude, the otter's good.

[C]

Good. It's so good.

[D]

The otter's good. Guys, what you think of the P.O. box?

[B]

I'm a big fan. We get a bunch of free cool stuff.

[C]

Yeah, I. I assume that you. You grabbed all the good stuff and you.

[B]

Look what I got.

[C]

Look at this. That thing. Nice. That thing's sweet.

[D]

I got a custom custom baseball. Jers.

[C]

Jake.

[D]

Jake. Wait. Jake, show them what you got. Somebody sent this to Jake specifically.

[E]

I also got that jersey, which is pretty sweet.

[C]

I'm pretty sure I got that exact baseball jersey, too.

[E]

But then I don't know if you guys remember this from season one. Someone made a Christmas card with me as the little elf. And a big yeti. Travis and Yukon Cornelius, Jason. And then shout out my wife. She made it into a Christmas sweater. Nice.

[B]

You guys are awesome. 92 percentage. You're the best. Thank you for all the cool stuff. Thanks for tuning in each week. Thanks for tuning into this week and hopefully you guys have a Merry Christmas. Have a wonderful time with your families.

[C]

And that wraps up New Heights show and tell. New Heights show and Tell is brought to you by Netflix. Hey, you got some fun stuff coming out on Netflix during the holidays.

[B]

Alrighty. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Make sure you subscribe to New Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights in the Wonder app or wherever we get your podcast. We'll be back with an all new episode Next Wednesday you can listen to new episodes of New Heights and free right now but join joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts.

[C]

Once again, New Heights, a wonder show brought to you by Nike this week. How about it, man? Shout out to Nike. My favorite of all time. Follow the show on all social media at new Heights show with 1s. Thanks to the New Heights production team for always making it fun and cheerful and we love you guys for making making our lives that much easier. And happy holidays to everybody and to those 92 percenters for tuning in this week.

[B]

Week.

[C]

We'll see you guys, I don't know, next year.

[B]

These things are cool.

[D]

Shout out Chavez knives.

[B]

I am going to obliterate some boxes for the holiday. This is perfect for Christmas too. I'm be slicing boxes, putting them in the categories and getting them out there on the curb. Why would somebody with a BBL need to sit on a cushion?

[A]

They have to lay down. That's the joke of when they all come. When all the people who get bbls come back on the plane, they're laying down.

[B]

That's only for like while it's healing. Once it's healed, it's like you got a permanent seat cushion.

[C]

Permanent cushion.

[A]

Let me tell you about all the research I've done into bbls.

[B]

Yeah, like you just take the, the outdoor furniture. You just take the cushion off because you got the bbl. You don't need the cushion. You already got. Got the cushion added so bad. Do you think when they sit on. If you have a BBL and you.

[A]

Sit on Brandon actually highlighted. It says Jason.

[B]

It's always highlighted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you sit on your BBL on like a cold steel bench, do you think you feel it or do you think it's.

[C]

Yes, I think you do. Yeah.

[A]

They're not killing the nerves when they do it.

[B]

Yeah. But does it insulate in some ways or something like that?

[C]

You got an insulated ass.

[B]

I don't, I don't have a bbl.

[C]

That's the, that's the evolution. You got the heater and cooler coming in next. I gotta have bbl AC and heat coolers. Heat seats. Like in the car, you can just press the button on which one you want it to be. That's going to be the next evolution of bbl.

[D]

It has turn signals on, has like.

[B]

It comes with an app and you can turn your heated seat on.

[D]

And my BBL is WI FI enabled.

[A]

It's a hot spot.

[B]

Can I, can you get your ass.

[D]

Over here real quick? I'm trying to.

[A]

Look.

[D]

Look at.

[B]

It. It's got a potpourri built in. Whenever you fart, it just squirts potpourri out with it. This bbl comes in the puerto rico. This is why this takes so long.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You've ever. You've ever been shocked that this podcast takes 15 days to record?

[B]

Right.

[C]

Most of it's unusual. That is brilliant. Between the AC and heat seats and the potpourri. Yeah, dude, that's a.

[A]

Selling themselves.

[B]

I might get one.

[C]

Might get one. Never was interested, but I didn't. I wasn't doing it for the look of it, but, I mean, if it's coming with all these.

[B]

You ever sat on a heated seat when it's cold out, it's nice, and I could have that at any time I wanted.

[A]

I can't.