← New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
NFL Draft Recap & Blake Griffin on NBA Playoffs, Retirement, Kobe Stories, Lob City & More | Ep 189
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Like I told you that I'm trying to dunk for the first time in my life, right?
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Oh, yeah, that's right. How's it going?
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Well, I tore my quad.
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Oh, so not good.
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I was doing quarter squats of that and then jumping up on the box, and it was working. My initial height of running and jumping was like 10, six. Like, it was embarrassing starting. I was up over 10. 10.
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That's plank. Can you palm the ball?
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No, See, I got little.
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You got those little baby.
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How did you learn to jump so high? What were the. What are the techniques that you implemented to jump over human beings?
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I got to be honest, man, having a black dad helps. I gotta say, the quarter squat box jump combo wasn't really in my.
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You didn't have to resort to that. I've been doing this thing called the penultimate step. Have you ever heard of the penultimate? All right, I'm gonna stop talking. I'm just gonna do your intro. All right, here we go.
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Welcome back to new heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Oh, Jason's fired up. You should be too, because this is a wonder show brought to you by Xfinity. We are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the University of Cincinnati. Shout out to the tigers back in the Heights. Subscribe on YouTube wherever you get your pod and follow the show on all social media. At new heights show with 1s. Jason, please tell everybody what we got coming up today.
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90 percenters, we got an amazing episode geared up for you guys today. We are going to talk a little bit about the draft from this past week. Obviously covering heavily Chiefs and Eagles picks. We're also going to get into a little out of the house at nascar. Don't know if you saw that, hence the Talladega. Oh, and as well, we have Blake Griffin joining us. That's right, the NBA playoffs are underway, so we decided we get the the funniest, most talented basketball analyst out there. Well, outside of Charles Barkley. Sorry.
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Sorry, dude. He's the fucking best. I can't wait to dive in with Blake, man. He's one of my fucking favorite people on Earth, man.
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He is the best. We're going to talk NBA playoffs. His incredible dunking abilities as well as somebody else trying to dunk and more. So before we get to that, let's get to some of that new news
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coming in.
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News is brought to you by American Express. We won a Webby award. How about. Oh, though Very prestigious. Webby. Jason and Travis Kelsey won the People's Voice award for sports shows podcast. Thank you to all the Niger presenters. Kylie also won an award. Kylie won an award. Ngl, the real ones voted her podcast. Wait, do they vote on that? Mike, I gotta light down. Light down Mike. So this is voted on. This just given. Well, Mike does a lot more than lighting, but yeah, for right now, he is a lighting guy.
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What is this, the hotel table lamp?
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That's 100. Yeah. I'm out in LA, baby. I'm doing. I'm trying to sling our garage beer. Leave me alone.
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All right.
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Anyways, New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelsey won the People's Voice award for sports shows parentheses podcast. Very prestigious award. Kylie also won the award with ngl. They won podcast of the year, which I believe is a bigger award than we received.
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It's probably the biggest award that they have there.
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Very cool. Very cool.
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Shout out to Kai running away with it. I love it.
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That's right. That's right. Shout out to everybody on the staff over there, Emma, everybody else that has their footprints on the show. You guys have been killing it all year. Way to go. Yeah. And thank you to all the nine super centers that voted us. We very much appreciate it. Travis. On to the next bit of new news.
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What's that?
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Do we have beef with Merill Street?
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I hope she doesn't have beef with me.
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Let's play this clip, gentlemen. Travis.
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I'M a fans of Mel street from. I don't have any beef with her.
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You might want to wait until you see this clip. Travis got called out for some reason in Devil Wears Prada 2's promo video.
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Oh, shit. The hardest thing about Shane Malone was walking in stilettos on the cobblestones.
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I'd like to see Travis Kelce do that.
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Oh, what? What?
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Trev?
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Oh, Meryl, you have no idea how good I am at walking in heels. Okay,
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I think we should recreate this. I think. I think we should put this to the test. Not recreate.
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We're going to have to find some size 14 heels first.
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Okay, well, we got those custom made. I'm sure there's some WNBA players that can put us on to some spot.
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What's the heel, though? Is a heel because I wear like Chelsea boots. Are those heels?
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No, no, no. It's got to be a stiletto. It's got to be a pointy bottom. That's why it's hard, right?
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I'll give credit where credit's due. I don't think I can do it, Meryl. I'll let you. I'll let you have.
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What are you, a quitter? You're a quitter. You're just going to give up the Meryl Streep?
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No, I just don't think I'm going to be athlete Travis Italy and walk in stilettos. Meryl Streep has quite Meryl. The resume.
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Well, she has a resume. That doesn't mean she's better at walking in stilettos than you just because she's a famous actress. Travis, we're competitors in the.
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I can kind of correlate.
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We don't bow down to anybody.
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When it's Meryl Streep, you kind of do. You just gotta like, bow down.
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Well, listen, if she was saying acting ability, I would get it. I completely get it.
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To be fair, I would be acting if I had heels on, so.
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Good point. That's a good point. All right, we're not going to put it to the test, apparently.
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I'm not.
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I'm going to let you have that one, Merrill. Can't wait to see Devil Wears product too, though. The first one was a banger. I know this one's going to be epic.
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Notam questions. Now that he has been called out by Meryl Streep, does Travis Kelsey think he can walk on cobblestone with high heels? Well, we're never going to find out, Kitty.
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I'll tell you what, Meryl. If I ever Find myself in Italy on that cobblestone. I'll try and find a size 14 and we'll put it to the test. All right, now, Jason, you're a Talladega champ. You and Ricky Bobby.
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That is correct.
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I am.
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I am a Talladega champ. That's right. I went down there on behalf of Hendrick Motorsports. I was been filming some things over at their headquarters in Charlotte. I've been doing some exercises to really learn what it's like to compete in the sport of nascar. I went out there, I trained with the athletes I was doing, learning their techniques, all the things that go into coordinating a pit stop. These guys are changing tires, gassing these cars all the way up. And sometimes under the nine seconds on a stop, they'll change all four tires, put gas in the vehicle and then get it out on its way. It's remarkable the coordination and timing and expertise that goes into that. I also went out on the track with William Byron, who drove me around at over 190 miles an hour around the Charlotte Motor Speedway, which was awesome and terrifying all at the same time. I then got to drive my own vehicle. They did not let me drive 190 miles per hour, but I still drove faster than ever driven in my life.
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How fast you go, how fast you
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go, they do it by rpm. So I was driving this thing had a regulator on it that capped you at 5,000 RPMs. And they said at one point I went 140. Everybody else, I was going 120. So somewhere between 120, 140, oh, that's nothing. You've done way faster.
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I was going 135 in a caravan when I was in high school.
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That thing flying around caravans do not kill 145.
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I guarantee. They go. They go 135 and they shake back and forth. When you get up, over 120 got a little dicey. They're not as a dynamic as you think they are.
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Anyways, the last bit of it was to go to Talladega and to be with the pit crew with Corey day's team, the 17 car with Hendrick Motorsports. And it was incredible. I got to see it firsthand, what it's like on race day, how they set up everything. These pit crews, man, they're in charge of setting everything up on pit road, right? There's five of these guys that are doing all these jobs. The Jackman has to run out there, jack up the car, take the new tire, put it on after the changer is taken off the the front right, he has to put the front right tire on immediately after that. Then the changer, while he's bolting that thing on, he's taking the jack off, running around, jacking up the other side, doing it over there. And all this stuff is happening. And it's the dance that is taking place of speed, strength, athleticism, coordination. It is remarkable what those guys do each and every stop. On top of that, the drivers, everything they're doing to game position, especially at Talladega, they're like foot is on the gas the entire race. They do it is. You are wide open. The track is angled at like 33 degrees, so you are just like zooming around that thing. And a lot of it comes down to drifting. And it's a very technical race from that standpoint. So. Corey Day, first time ever racing at Talladega, ended up winning, winning the race. Our driver, and I'll tell you what, what they had me doing, I was a sign man. So you put the sign down on pit road that lets the driver know where to stop at. Sometimes you might want to stop it short. Sometimes you might want to stop it where he normally stops at. Sometimes you want to stop a little wide. So we did a short wide stop. So it was a pretty technical job of the sign
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guy. Out of here, dude. I just have. I have, like one question.
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Oh, that wasn't my only job. Then they would have me be in the gas. I don't even know if there's a title for it, but I was passing the fuel in and let me tell you, we won first place. I was the best gas can passer on pit road that day, baby. Champions one and zero, baby.
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This guy's sick. It was the Saturday race though, right? It was not the.
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It was not the Cup Series. It was not the Cup Series.
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The big dog still, still the champion still, though. And for him to have his first race at Talladega and him come away with a, with a. With a podium was pretty dope.
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That was the coolest thing. Obviously, this kid, he's a really good sprint car racer. He's won a bunch of races in that world. Now on the O'Reilly series. First race at Talladega, gets his first win there. It was so electric down there and just happy for him getting out the gates like that, man, that's an awesome moment. And it was full. It was cool to just watch. It was cool to be a part of. Obviously, my contribution was pretty much nothing. But you know what? I still get to say I'm a NASCAR champion, baby.
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Why did they put a scully on you? Why are you scuba Steven it, man?
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It's a good question. If you're behind the car, near the gas at all, everybody back there has to be in 100 flame proof clothing. So your shoes, your socks, you don't
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have it on your beard.
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You're right. I actually think technically I was not following code. I think that that thing was supposed to be over my beard.
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Flag on the play. Take the. Take the metal away from them.
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Don't you do this, Travis. Don't you do this. But I'll say that not only were we there on behalf of Hendrick Motorsports to witness what it's like to be in a pit crew, to see a race firsthand, to hear in the radio everything that's happening between the driver and the pit crew and the chief, we were also there to just experience Talladega and to be as my first time at a NASCAR event. And it was awesome. All the other teams, the way it's set up, the people that were there, the energy, like when you watch it on tv, it does not do it justice. And everybody has said that to me for years. I went to the Indy 500 in college, felt similarly. But it's. There's a level of having all of your senses engaged and watching these machines operate at this level that takes over you when you're there live. Like, you feel, you literally feel these cars coming by you. Not just the wind, the revving of the motors, right? You feel the ground moving and shaking in some ways, like, it is a. It is a very sensory driven experience. Whether you're in there, whether you're out there sitting on an rv, watching outside of it. It was fun. It was, it was a blast. Especially now that I know more about it, rather than just watching them go around and circle and be like, I don't know how most of this works. Somebody crosses it when the, when the checkered flags go in. But yeah, awesome experience. Really appreciate them welcoming me in to kind of train with them and see what it's like firsthand. These changers, my guy Rod and Jafar, freaking. They got five bolts, they got the single lug in the Cup Series. It's just one lug in the Cup Series. They're getting five of these things off, taking it on. I mean, it's, it's wild. It's a good time.
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Hell, yeah, man. And Hendricks is obviously. I mean, they're, they're one of the top dogs every single year going, going around the NASCAR circuit.
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That's right. Shout out to Jeff Gordon.
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Yeah.
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Hell, yeah. My guy Clint Boyer's been in the facility. He's good friends with Brett Veach, and he's obviously a part of Hendrix, too. And it's a fascinating league. And it got even more interesting since Michael Jordan's come in. I know they had that lawsuit. It's been amazing seeing 23 Racing take the fuck off this year. I mean, I'm pretty sure they've won the majority of the races so far. I know he won, I think the first three, four, maybe even like six out of ten or something like that. Those guys are absolutely rolling over there,
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having a good year for sure.
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And it's been cool to see him kind of take his greatness and. And have it rub off onto the NASCAR world a little bit.
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And.
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Yeah, it's just, It's. It's such a fascinating sport. And I'm telling you guys, if you guys ever go to a NASCAR event, man, you are not going to be disappointed. That thing is alive. It is rocking. It is not just people just sitting around watching the cars go by. Everybody is engaged. And there's things around the track and inside the track that you can get it. You can have some fun with as well. You know, I think it's just a. It's the ultimate weekend party if you can get to one of these things, for sure.
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And the boulevard is equally as fun after the race. Highly recommend.
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Well, last bit of new news we got is George Kittle would like a Jason Kelsey intro for his alarm clock every single morning.
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That's interesting. Okay, okay.
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He tweeted out. Can I get a custom one of these introductions for my alarm clock every morning? Please, George, we can make this happen. You're going to have to come on the show, though, baby.
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Let's go. That's what I was going to say. But you gotta come on, George. We've been waiting for this.
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Get my guy on here. Have some fun, man.
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We've had so many legendary tight ends, and we still haven't had George cup on. Now he just wants me to give him an intro. No, you got to be a 92 percenter first, George. That's how this works.
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Oh, man, it's crazy how some of, like, the closest people to me I haven't, like, invited on the show yet. The worst, man.
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Well, you just. You don't like the presumption, right? You don't. Yeah, I don't push it. You don't want to, like.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're polite Clevelander. You don't want to impose. It's people. It's very standard, you know. Yeah. But I think George would like to come on the show. He's clearly. I mean, he's asking to come on the show with this, right?
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Sounds like. Sounds like he's. He just wants an intro. And George, he doesn't want to come on the show.
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He wants us. He wants to skirt the show and just get the.
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Don't just get these kind of things. You don't get it. You have to. You have to come on the show.
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George would love to. Love to give you an intro.
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George, get my guy kettle on here, man.
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Anytime you want that. You also do us a solid and come on the show. Absolutely.
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No. No.
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All right. In case you missed it, we did have a couple episodes dropped last week. There's a lot happening with the draft, a lot of NFL news coming out. But we did drop a Charlize Theron episode. We also dropped a bonus episode with my former offensive line coach, Jeff Stoutland. They are both out there if you want to check them out.
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Obviously, Charlize Theron's pushing the. The unbelievable movie apex. It is a thriller that you are not going to want to miss. And then obviously, Jeff Stoutland, man, one of. One of the best ever do it and a near dear friend to Jason, obviously. It was just cool to sit down and hear his stories, man.
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Yeah. And it wasn't just Stout. You know, we had Malata come on, too. Selick was on there. We did a little round table. Trav and I talked to him. I really wanted it to try and be a celebration of his whole career and some of the things he's done and meant to certain people. Obviously Mulatta had a. That clip did really well. One of the things that I think, you know, I think is being taken a little bit the wrong way. I do want to say this because it feels like it's getting out there is like he mentioned, you know, I asked him, you know, what went wrong last season. And his answer by a lot of people, because he said, you know, you got to call the right play in the right defense. That's being made to look as though that's a dig solely at Kevin Patula. I really think if you look at the whole quote, if you look at the whole quote, and this is the way Stout is, you know, the whole quote is really referencing the players and the coaches. He talks about executing the plays, execution and then calling, not calling bad plays into bad defenses. And although Petullo was the play caller, I know Stout and like, everybody's involved in that game plan, Everybody's involved in building that thing so the plays end up getting called. Really all he's saying there is to be successful in football, it comes down to the players executing and the coaches putting the players in the best position possible. And last year that didn't happen. That's what that was trying to say with that quote. So whatever.
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Just so you 92 percenters understand, the offensive coordinator is, is given the responsibility of putting the game plan together, right? He is. He is a huge, huge, huge part of putting the pass game together, matching it up with the run game that is put together. But there are different. Like the offensive coaching staff comes together and somebody's given the run game, somebody's given the pass game, somebody's given the play action game, somebody's given the screen game. There are people that are, that are putting in their input on the, on the. What the red zone looks like versus what backed up looks like when you're. When you're backed up to your own red zone. Like, this is a. This is. This isn't just one guy putting together a game and everybody following lead. You know what I mean? Like, this is it. It is. It. Is everybody on the same understanding that this is the best thing for us to attack the team that we're playing this week. So to throw it all on one person, first of all, Stout would never do that. And second of all, for people to make that assumption, I think is pretty unfair.
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Yeah, I, I mean, I get it because he said calling plays, but that's not the intention of it. A lot of people, just like you said, don't understand what goes into all the plays that happen on a game day. All right, that's it for new news brought to you by American Express, thanks
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Okay. Another Clevelander on the Reese's train. I see you dog.
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There we go. There we go. Look at him. Look at the young fella. Complete tucks with the Reese's on the inside.
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Ohio ball player right there if I've ever seen one.
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Hi. I see what you did there. I see what you did. I see what you doing there.
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You're insane. Well, how about we get into some NFL draft recap, Jason? How about it, huh?
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I love that idea. Travis.
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Chiefs picks.
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We we moved up to pick six. We had the ninth pick and the 29th pick and we traded up for the best DB in the draft, baby.
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Nice. He almost like he knew it was coming. Is That a red suit? He was in a red suit.
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No, I think the red light is on him. I think it was more of like a.
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It's making it look more.
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Yeah, it was more of like. What's that color? Like a. I don't know.
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I'm terrible with colors.
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Like a dusty rose, but DB man, sure, he's down there. Louisiana guy, I believe went to lsu and this face was made when he saw the Chiefs trade up. So he knew he was going to a pretty respectable team once this happened. And I'm sure he got the call when he saw him going up. Delaney on getting drafted by the Chiefs, a lot of top 10 teams, they're really not too good, but that's not the situation here. We have a championship team, just had one little down year, but we're right back at it. And that's what I'm talking about, baby. Already coming with the mindset of being a top team. I absolutely love it. We had the first round pick, the 29th pick, as well as moving up to get Delane, Clemson DN Peter woods at 29. And I'm pretty pumped about getting somebody on the other side of Chris Jones there on the D line. Obviously speed is out the. Is out the world at how big he is, and I think he's going to fit right in and spag scheme here.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that's one of the beautiful things about Spaz Spag's scheme. He. He can find guys that really fit what he envisions within the defense. He's always very multiple. You see guys that go in there and do specific tasks and obviously they like this kid to go up there, get him in the first round. And I also like the Delane pick. That defensive backfield has been picked apart so much over the past, what, three years or so. You know, Justin Reed, you got Legarius Snead.
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I'll say this, a lot of the. A lot of the big name DBs that we've had in years past are elsewhere right now. So getting an unbelievable db, the best in the draft, and then getting a guy on the D line, that can really help Chris Jones not get double teamed as much or at least create matchups to where this kid can thrive early on and really bring something to the team, I think that's going to be a. A huge part to the defense. But I mean, it doesn't stop there on the D line. We got our Mason Thomas edge from Oklahoma. The guy's a fucking freaking nature in terms of athleticism and Explosiveness. I can't wait to see how this guy gets after the quarterback, man. It's been kind of something that the Chiefs have been looking at to get better at, and that's getting after the QB and, and really putting quarterbacks under duress, man. Obviously we've always had Chris Jones there and George is a workhorse. Got Gillette last year, but I think this is going to be a game changer at the, at the edge position. I know he had a hamstring last year on an unbelievable fumble recovery, so we'll see him when he gets in the building. I'm sure Spags will have a fun time putting him to work as well.
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There we go. Who else we got here?
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We got another cornerback from Oregon. He's kind of more of a nickel guy. I'm excited to see this guy get to work. Spags is obviously his. His nickel package is. It can get confusing to a lot of guys. So I'm, I'm sure Jaden Kennedy is going to fucking be. Be quite the chess piece for Spags. But after that, two to three picks that I'm pretty fucking excited about, and that's because they're all finally got to the offensive side of the ball in round five. Emmett Johnson, running back from Nebraska, I believe he was like first team Big Ten, won a few awards at the running back position last year. We actually got to see him live when Nebraska played Cincinnati at Arrowhead. And then the other sideline, Cyrus Allen, wide receiver from Cincinnati, who I am jacked up to see. We got another Bearcat in the building. We actually got two Bearcats in the building. One came as well as Jeff Caldwell in the, in the free agency pickup. But Cyrus Allen is, he's. He's a route runner, man. He's a route runner. When we were talking about, you know, what do I want to see in a guy in the wide receiver room, he has his own twist on a lot of routes and, and he has the quickness, he has the decisiveness. He really knows how to use his shoulders and his quickness and rhythm to, to get DBs in a, in a bind, man.
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Listen, he's from Cincinnati, so, you know, he's going to be tough. You know, he's going to be physical. He's going to be a guy that loves football and he loves drafting Bearcats. I mean, look how many successful Bearcats he's drafted. Not just me and you. Brent Selleck, Trent Cole, Brian Cook. Ah, Cook. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Either way, Andy loves the. Loves the Bearcats. Cyrus Allen, Cincinnati Bearcat. Tough, physical, fast.
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Get this dude out of here. Overall, I thought we did an unbelievable job on getting young guys that looked like they love ball on the film that I watched of them and look like they can come in and help out right away, man.
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Garrett Nussmeier, son of a coach. I was actually with his father in Philadelphia. We'll see.
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Yeah.
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What do you think of the Chiefs draft class, Trav? Lot of defense early, Getting some offensive pieces late. I guess you guys solved some of the offensive stuff early in the draft this year or earlier in free agency this year with Kenneth Walker.
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Yeah, man, I'm. I'm pumped. I'm pumped on just seeing these young guys getting in the building. You know, I thought we. We had a great team last year. We got a lot of those pieces back, and the ones that we lost, we filled those needs asap. So I think. I think these guys, once they get in the building, they feel. They feel the culture and they. They feel how we do things here. It's an exciting time, man. And I thought shout out to Brett Veach and the crew for doing their doing hard work and getting the guys that we need in the building, man.
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All righty. Well, Eagles also had a draft this week, and they went round one, pick 20, Makai Lemon, wide receiver out of USC was the Belitnikov. I don't know if that's how you say it, but he was the receiver of the year in college football. Should be pretty good. This was a patented Howie Roseman pick. He was expected to be a top 15 guy. Started sliding, and how he trades up ahead of the Steelers to snag him at pick 20. You know, this is just further proof that I think this Eagles offense is changing. Right. Like, you know, the Eagles and Jalen Hurts have not thrown the ball over the middle of the field very much. That's something that fans have criticized a lot. And this was really most of his production in college, right? He's a shorter guy, going to operate out of the slot a little bit smaller, but he is physical.
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You put that film on, man, this guy can play some fucking ball.
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Catches everything. They're playing some highlights where he is going up and getting the ball.
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Strong receiver, too, man. He's a strong receiver.
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A lot of the comparisons are the Amar, Amon, Ross, St. Brown, Mini Puka, Nakua. And you see exactly with this offense that Shawn Manion is bringing, with all the motions and. And shifting the formations from three by one to two by two, having those guys insert some of the creative Unique things they might be able to do with this guy. Cowboys not too happy that the Eagles traded up for him or that the Cowboys traded with the Eagles to allow them to come up to 20 and draft Makai Lemon at JD Cowboys 2. I deadass would have rather traded with North Korea. That's a pretty hilarious tweet right there. I don't know how many picks North Korea had in this one. Didn't see a lot of Koreans off the board. We have Jerry Jones on trading with Eagles. If I eliminated trading with all the teams that I wanted to beat their ass, you wouldn't have anybody left to trade with.
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Meaning he wants to whoop everybody's ass, not just the Eagles. So if he needs to trade, he's not just, you know, not trading to one team.
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Well, we sure appreciate it. We sure appreciate it. Yeah, Eagles have done this where they've been trading up recently. I feel like Howie, a lot of this has gone from, like, when he sees somebody sliding and sees the perceived value, especially if it's at a position of need, he is not shy of pulling the trigger. Did the same thing with Jalen Carter. Obviously we drafted value with Cooper Dean as he was sliding in the draft a couple years ago. They've been doing a great job of getting value out of some of these picks in terms of, like, where the consensus has them rated pick two, they go. Tight end from Vanderbilt, Eli Stowers. I don't know anything about him because I don't watch a lot of college football. I do know.
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B
I know quite a bit about him, man. This kid is.
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A
Well, then go ahead, Travis. Please tell me. Please tell.
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You got. You guys got a stud, man. The word around town is easy. He doesn't have quite the size, but I'm. I'm telling you, man, this kid knows how to play some football, man. He knows how to run routes. He's got a good feel. He can. He can. He can run. And when he has the ball in his hands, man, you'd be surprised on how much you know, with this lack of size that they're saying how many. How many tackles he breaks and just how good he is, man. He was. He was one of Vanderbilt's best players, I thought when I watched him play.
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And again, it's another thing with this offense, right? Big decision you have to make. Do you go 11 personnel? Do you go 12 personnel? How can you do all these runs and concepts and motioning guys around and 12 personnel? A lot of teams utilize it. I mean, the rams were utilizing 13 personnel. One running back with three tight ends. When you have a guy that can go out wide while also coming inside and block linebackers and safeties, you know, crack down on the defensive end, you have screen options with them. These guys are very valuable and we see it addressed right away with the first round pick with Makai Lemon and the second round pick with Eli Stowers. Oh, yeah, third pick. They address the offensive line. Obviously Lane Johnson is getting a little bit older. We thought they would take a tackle at some point. Some people thought it would be earlier in the draft. They end up addressing it at the third round at pick 68 with Markel Bell. Monstrous of a man. This guy is huge. We don't have his stats up here, but he's something like 69350. Basically. He is a big boy. He a big boy. Big man out here. He's a. He's a big boy. He's a big old son of a gun. Honestly, this one, I. I mean, mountain of a man, long arms, big old hands, not the most fleet of foot. What's a little surprising in some ways to me because this system is more rooted in outside zone concepts. Traditionally, these offenses have drafted guys that can open their hips and run and cut off on the backside and do screens and play well with the misdirection game. This guy is suited to be a great pass blocker, right? Drop back, long arms, very rangy. Going to be very good in that regard as long as he can rear mirror and redirect with people. More of a power downhill guy, which some of these offenses have shifted recently. The Rams now run more duo than they do outside zone, right? They were, those offenses started outside zone. Now they're running more dive concepts, more downhill plays. Maybe that's something that'll tell you about what the Eagles think they might do in the future. They don't go with the smaller, more athletically nimble tackle. They go with the big stalwart that'll be able to protect the quarterback and run downhill runs. Interesting pick there. In the third round, round five they go. Cole Payton, get a little quarterback depth from North Dakota State. We've had some North Dakota State success at the quarterback position. Okay, Carson, shout out. Yeah, Cole Payton. Interesting. You know, we still have, we still have Tanner McKee on the roster. Obviously Jalen Hurts as a starter. We still have Tanner McKee, still have or went out and signed in this off season. Andy Dalton. Now we have another quarterback in the room and Cole Payton. In round five, round six, they go. Micah Morris, different than Markel Bell equally as big. Monstrous, man. This guy is explosive. He's close to that 350bill mark too. I mean, he's a big boy. These are big boys out here in Philadelphia. He's close to 340. Pushing that, something like that. I mean, the jersey's hanging on for dear life. When you put that tape on, he is six, five, huge. But this guy can move. I mean, he's jumping 30 inches at that weight. He's running sub five in the 40. I don't even know if that's true, but his Raz score was off the charts.
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Get this dude out of here.
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Anyways. But honestly, this guy can move. Very explosive. Honestly, you look at the metrics, it's like, why was this guy around in the sixth round? Which kind of is concerning a little bit. Like, when you're that big, that strong, that fast, you're not supposed to be there in the sixth round, right? You're usually going earlier. So maybe the tape is more of a developmental player. I don't know what it's, I didn't watch them specifically, but when you look at the metrics, like, this guy should be a much higher pick. Maybe he doesn't bend well. I don't know. We'll find out though. I'm excited to watch him play. I like watching big athletic freaks of nature. Which gets me to the next guy in the seventh round. O r Bernard from Nigeria. He's never even fucking played football. But he looks like a Nigerian God. Not a Greek God. A Nigerian Greek God. He's fucking huge. Look at, Pull him up. Pull up his shit. 6, 4 and a half, 306 pounds, 6% body fat. 39 inch vertical, 10 foot 10 broad jump. 14 inches longer than any other defensive tackle. 4, 6, 3, 4. If you put it side by side with Miles Garrett. He's dwarfing him. One caveat, though. He hasn't played football.
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Oh, yeah, just a small.
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He's a D lineman. Just fucking run fast and hit people and get in the way. Wreak havoc. Knock over your superhuman. Put his highlights up of him working out. Because I do want to point this out. I, I, I'm kind of being funny. There's a lot on this kid's shoulder because of what happened with Jordan Malata. Right. The Eagles in the seventh round.
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B
Well, though, there's a lot of on this kid's shoulders because he just got compared to Miles Garrett.
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Well, before we get to it, watch these highlights and tell me what you see because I, I noticed something right away that I think is going to take some time to develop. Not this part. Look at that. I mean, what the fuck is this? It's like they went to the Arnold Classic and found the biggest specimen they could. Here's where I started noticing stuff. What do you see?
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I mean, he's just not used to moving like a football player. He can get going straight, but he's, he's just got to put in a lot of work. And it's a different type of skill set, man.
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Exactly. Well, here's the thing. He. The metrics are off the charts. So to get a guy with this much physical talent in the seventh round is incredible. But he's never played the game. There's a level of stiffness in the change of direction and the agility that he's going to have to develop. Right.
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And there's an understanding of the game to have the savviness to play the game within the game, that is. Yeah, exactly. It's definitely a developer developmental guy. But to get drafted in the seventh round is quite defeat for him. All that hard work that he's done to put into his body to get to where he is right now, man, hats off, brother.
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If he can learn to play with great pad level, work on changing direction more efficiently using his hands, if this all pans out, you are, you could have an incredibly high player with a high ceiling. Those are a lot of ifs. And it is rare for a guy that's never played the game to just come in and learn the sport. Even though football in the defensive line in particular, like, dude, you take big, fast, strong people, they usually pan out. But this is a very green player. It did work out with Jordan Malata. For every Jordan Mulatta it works out with, there are guys that it doesn't work out with. I remember Brock Lesnar got brought into a camp one year with the Minnesota Vikings and he was there for like maybe one or two preseason games. And I mean he is a physical specimen. You have to also have the knowledge of the game, the desire, the love of the game. Especially if you're going to be playing in the trenches. You got to want it.
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We're going to see how much he wants it, man. Because you're going to get, you're going to get double teamed, you're going to get blindsided, you're going to get try like trap blocked. Like it's, it's, it's as much of a mental game in that interior as it is physical. And it's, it can get pretty taxing on, on you, if you are, at least you can get pretty humbling in the beginning for him. So hopefully he sticks at it and hopefully the Eagles found someone that's, that's got that Jordan mulatto type spark to him.
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Well, in what Jordan had, obviously was great coaching too. You know, Jeff Stalin, it took him two years working with Jordan to try and get him on the field. Right. He almost got cut up until the moment he started producing. This guy's going to be working with Clint Hurt, you know, Jeremiah Washburn. There's really good coaches that Eagles have on that side of the ball. And if I'm a coach, I am so excited to work with this kid. Like, you see these metrics, you know, there's potential there. The explosion, the linear ability to move is astronomical. Like, you don't see these kind of numbers out of football players really ever at this size.
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Yeah.
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So if that type of linear explosion, if we can get the agility going, if we can get the body mechanics right and we can teach the technique and rushing the passer and, and defending the run and how to use your hands and how to sink your hips and understand formations, there's going to be a learning process. But I, I am very excited to see how, if this kid can get it done.
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You think he's an interior D liner or do you think he's an edge guy? They gave the comparison to myles Garrett, the 40 and the broad jump and the explosiveness, all that's all that sounds good on paper, but I think he's kind of more of a three technique just based off of how, how his hips are and just, you know, the techniques and everything like that.
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I think he'll be a 3, 4D end and he'll be a 3 technique when they reduce from a certain side. Right. Like, he's not going to be. He might be able to play a five technique with like an outside background, the ball outside of him. I doubt they have him on the edge. Right. I doubt he's going to be that player. Maybe, you know, some teams have done that with bigger guys, especially early downs to just man Mountain Dean tight ends. But I would expect this guy probably to get a lot of work at three technique, four I4 technique, five technique and base defense.
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I can't wait to see this guy put the pads on first day. I can't wait.
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I, I'm. I want to go down there just to watch myself. Yeah. Three picks in the seventh round. There's actually a pick right before that I missed. I glossed over at Cole Wisniewski, safety from Texas Tech played with the Wisniewski. He would not transition to a safety. We also got round seven pick 252 Keyshawn James Newby, outside linebacker, New Mexico. So Eagles opposite of the Chiefs, they go offense early with some of those higher picks and then once they got to the later rounds, really started addressing some of the defensive needs. Well, still was printed merrily offense. Actually they didn't draft the defensive guy until round seven, but then they went straight defense. Either way, I'm excited a lot about this class. The other part of the Eagles draft was Howie trading the two third round picks to the Vikings for Jonathan Grinard. This was a missing piece on that defense. Obviously Jalen Phillips signed a $120 million deal and free agency. They lost out on that edge defender who really brought a lot to the defense midway through the season. Now they get Jonathan Granarda, a very good player from Minnesota.
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More. Here's a hundred mil.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How much money does Philly have?
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Man, Howie is a wizard. I mean, he just finds a way to get it done. You know, I don't know that it's. I feel like they can finagle whatever they want because they just know how to structure it. I don't really understand how it works. Oh, also got to shout out Jeffrey Lurie for spending the money. But yeah, they. They find a way to. They find a way to get really good players and they do it very often by spending a fuck ton of money. So shout out to the Luries for investing in the team. Shout out to Howie for understanding the salary cap and how to finagle every dollar you can out of that thing to maximize the talent on the roster. So that is also a huge part of the Eagles draft, which ultimately, with that alone, it's a successful draft. Makai, Lemon, pan out some of these guys. I picked the tight end from Vanderbilt. I mean this guy in the seventh round. If we get another Jordan Mulatta. Although I don't want to start anointing him yet. Lot to like about this draft from the Eagles. All righty. Outside of Eagles and Chiefs, there were a bunch of other players selected in this year's draft.
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Yeah, roughly 290.
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We do not watch a lot of these guys, but we are excited to see someone play. Obviously everybody's talking about Fernando Mendoza, number one overall to the Raiders and people have known that for a long time. Only the fourth quarterback since 1967 to win the Heisman, the Natty and go number one overall in the same Season. That's an interesting stat.
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B
There you go. I'm interested to see, you know, exactly how they, how they go about playing them. Obviously, they have Kirk Cousins. I know, I know. Ty Simpson was picked by the Rams. Matthew Stafford, our guy. Matt Stafford is still obviously the. He's just one mvp. He'll be the starter there. So you get a guy that's, you know, looking to learn under him. I'm not, I'm interested to see if, you know, that's the approach the Raiders take.
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Yeah. Where do you stand on that? Like, I do.
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I mean, I'm for it, obviously, because I've, I've seen it work. I've seen it happen. I've, you know, I've seen Pat Mahomes learn under Alex Smith.
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You got Aaron Rodgers, Pat Mahomes. A lot of really big name guys sat for a second, but there's also a lot of big Tom Brady behind you. Bledsoe. There's a, there's a learning process, but at the same point to what Deion Sanders said, man, I, I never learned nothing sitting on the bench. Like, you need to go out there and play to do the best.
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B
Like Dion. That was a epic quote.
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A
That was a banger. Peyton Manning, I mean, led the league in interceptions, but he played his rookie year and learned a lot, I'm sure.
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B
Yeah. I mean, look what Caleb Williams was able to do last year.
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I do think, in general, more so than playing or not, I think it's really good for young quarterbacks in particular to learn how to prepare, to learn how to watch film, to learn all that stuff from veteran quarterbacks that have been doing it for a long time and know that side of it.
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So, like, yeah, one of the best at that. Yeah.
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Yeah. Mendoza is in a great situation just being in the same room with Kirk Cousins. Regardless of what the playing time situation ends up being, at the end of the day, he is going to learn a ton about what it takes to compete and, and prepare at the highest level. Same thing, obviously, for Ty Simpson.
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And I'm sure he's got old Tom Brady right there in his back pocket helping him if he ever needs. You know, it's a good point.
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A
There's another, Another guy there. Yeah, you're right. All right, well, outside of those quarterbacks, another big draft pick for this show was Jets. Jake not getting who he wanted the jets to take because he knows exactly who should have been taking it.
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B
Number two, dude, David Bailey is a fucking dog. No, but he cannot possibly be upset at them getting David Bailey. Oh, he is a game changer.
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Jake, before they picked, said, don't mess it up jets with a picture of a handwritten sticky note. ARVL Reese, no matter what, I mean, he put in the time to really study who they should pick.
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B
I mean, listen, Arvl Reese, Glenville High School up there in Northeast Ohio, up
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A
in Cleveland, the Glenville guy.
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B
Oh yeah, went the, went to Glenville, Ohio State to the, to the NFL as we know it. For a lot of guys, it's almost a powerhouse up there in Cleveland in terms of pipeline for sure. Yeah. Getting guys to Ohio State or getting guys to the big Big Ten and into the NFL. So I'm excited for, you know, just to see Arvell Reese, you know, play some football in the league, man, fellow Cleveland guy. But I think David Bailey was a pretty goddamn pick. Pretty goddamn good pick.
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A
Nothing will bring me greater joy than when David Bailey turns into like a 10 year New York jet, like multiple pro Bowls and it's like, yeah, I just can't wait for Jake to have to eat that entire sticky note.
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B
Sorry.
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A
Love you, Jake. All right, last thing. Shout out the lineman. Caleb Lomu, drafted in flip flops and jorts. This is a big green flag for offensive linemen. Wearing jorts and flip flops tells me no. I mean, I'm fine with a quarter zip. Quarter zip's nice and comfy.
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B
I got a. Those nice jeans.
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A
So nice. Yeah, they're not cut off. Definitely better. It's bigger green flag if you cut off those jean shorts yourself. Those are bought shorts. Bought shorts, not made jorts.
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B
Well, maybe he's not as good with scissors.
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A
Either way, I did love the Internet. Falling in love with him, dancing. Did you see these dance moves from for my guy Caleb?
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B
I did. I did see them, but I'll see him again. Come on, put them up there.
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A
Very similar. Lane Johnson's got some similar moves I've seen him pull in the locker room. I think it's a. He's got good hips, fluidity, smooth. To be. To move like this, you know, you gotta be kind of athletic. You can't just be pulling that out if you're big Stiffy.
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B
No, listen, if you're.
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A
Hey, I think this is a major green flag. I really do. Good hips, rhythm, loose, confident. Come on now, show it all.
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B
Big dog. That's hilarious.
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Yeah, dad, you. I mean, he might have books. Yeah, mom. Yeah, mom did most of the heavy lifting. Here's the thing about planning a group trip. It gets messy fast. Everyone's got different schedules, different ideas.
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C
We'll just watch this.
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B
God damn.
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That alone will be the most electric episode.
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B
So what about this one? Do you remember this one?
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A
Holy. How did you learn to jump so high?
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C
What were you thinking? What were you thinking when you did that?
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B
When you jumped over Timothy Mozgov. Was that planned or how did you feel about that?
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A
Like I told you that I'm trying to dunk for the first time in my life, right? I told you this, right?
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C
Oh, yeah, that's right. How's it going?
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A
Well, I tore my quad.
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C
Oh, so not good?
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B
No, I was gonna say he's. Yeah, go ahead, Jason, tell him how you tore your quad.
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A
All right. So I've been doing this type of training where apparently you like, you lift heavy and then you do, like, explosive jumping afterwards. That's supposed to make you jump higher if you're not born naturally with it, right. So I was doing heavy quarter squats.
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B
You're not born.
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A
Supplemented with jumping on top of a box. So I had. Well, I did seven plates the week before, and I was doing quarter squats of that and then jumping up on the box. And it was working. My initial height of jumping, like running and jumping. My initial height of running and jumping was like 10, six. Like, it was embarrassing. Start. I was up over 10, 10. So I was, like, high enough to get there, I feel like. So I just wanted, like. No, see, I got a little. The chance I killed. So I try to get just one more inch, hopefully, and I go back in there and I'm squatting again in the sec. The week after that, I tore my quad doing the quarter squat and had to sit it down. But I'm getting ready to start it again. Do you have any, like, how did you learn to jump so high? What were the. What are the techniques that you implemented to jump over human beings?
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C
I gotta be honest, man, having a black dad helps. I don't know. I mean, my mom. My mom, you know, More of a. More of a Runner, you know, long distance. Yeah, that helps for sure. I. I gotta say, the quarter squat box jump combo wasn't really in my. Wasn't in my.
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A
You didn't have to resort to that. Yeah, I've been doing this thing called the penultimate step. Have you ever heard of the penultimate step? All right, I'm gonna stop talking. I'm just gonna do your intro. All right, here we go. No, man, I just jumped.
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C
That felt like. That was the intro right there.
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A
All right. All right. Our guest today is the 6 foot 9 forward from the University of Oklahoma. He was the number one pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the 2011 Rookie of the Year, 2011 Slam Dunk Contest champion, six time NBA All Star, five time All NBA. He made his broadcasting debut this NBA season as studio panelists on Amazon Prime 92%. Please welcome perhaps the greatest dunker of all time, Blake Griffin.
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C
Hyped up right now.
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B
Yeah, baby.
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A
I am sweating. I am sweating from that.
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B
He usually blows a gasket well.
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C
Yeah. Bust a blood vessel in your eye.
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B
Appreciate you jumping on the show, man. How's broadcasting going, dog? You guys are in the heat of the fucking playoffs right now. You get the full year under your belt. How you been enjoying Amazon?
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C
It's been awesome, man. I figured I was going to enjoy it just, I mean, obviously we love the sport we play, but I enjoy it so much more. And part of that is just like, dude, I get to sit in a room and watch the games with Dirk Nowinski, Steve Nashie, Donna Taslam. Taylor Brooks is our host, and she's awesome. So it's like we just sit there and we watch games and talk and like, that part's fun, but also trying to usher in this new era of sports media and how people view the game, especially in basketball. I think football, they do such a good job, but basketball, I think it needed sort of like an education and like an uplifting standpoint because obviously, like, you guys know, like, it's not easy. Like, we're all. We're all, you know, training extremely hard, trying to win, putting forth so much effort. And, you know, sometimes it comes down to these little things. So just trying to like, educate fans to. To sort of see the game, I guess through the way we see it has been a blast. But I've had. I've had so much fun.
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B
Well, Jason is very much one of those people that think everybody in the NBA is just out there running and jumping and chucking up threes.
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A
I never said that once. Not wrong, not wrong. Let me ask you this, how has the game changed? Because it does feel like the NBA has changed from, especially when we were kids. It's continuing to evolve. It's continuing to use more floor space. How have you seen it continue to change now as an analyst from when you played?
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C
Well, for one, the pace has changed. And there's all these advanced analytics that talk about pace. Right. But pace is sort of a deceiving stat because it's sort of just tracking, you know, how much you're going up and down. But now with every player being so skilled, like now centers shoot threes, power fours, everybody shoots threes. Everybody can handle the ball to a certain extent. Now, some guys don't, but most teams and most of the good teams, everybody is such a dynamic player that the court is even more spread out. So now you're seeing longer closeouts, you're seeing guys be able to drive and kick, and all that stuff in the half court is happening so much more. I also think that a side note, like, that's why we're seeing a few more injuries. Like, the pace is, sure, it's similar to like the 90s, but there is so much more movement and so much more dynamic.
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A
Interesting.
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C
You know, we've gotten to a place where the game, I think the game is in a good place. It's just different than it was. And a lot of that was, you know, Golden State coming in and, you know, Splash brothers and all these teams shooting threes. And I also had this thing where it's like, you know, that was great for them and they had two of the best years of all time.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And now you're sort of watching, you know, some of these. These other teams, like teams that are sort of tanking or rebuilding and young and they're playing the same way. And. And it's like, it's glaring when you're taking 53s and you're missing, you know, 42, 3, 53.
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A
Make some adjustments.
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B
Is insane.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Insane for an entire game.
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C
I mean, by the way, that's like, it's like normal now. Like teams that don't even shoot the three, well shoot high 40s. So, yeah, it's wild. But like, I, you know, I still, I can always find things that I really appreciate about the game. I mean, we have some of the best young players. We sort of have this like, weird moment right now, or it's a great moment of like, we still have the LeBron's, the Katie's, the Stephs, like, all these guys that we've Known for years. But we also have these young guys who are fucking incredible and they are like ushering in this new era of superstars. So I. To me, the game's in such a good place and I'm excited about it.
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B
Give me a quick three of these young guys. Who do you think is really going to be taking over this league? Or who are your three favorite? Or a couple of them right now?
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C
I mean, Wimby is like, like, if
- [56:09]
B
you insane, dude, he's an alien. Can't tell me he's not an alien.
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C
If you haven't had a chance to see him play in person, I got to see him in person for the first time. Like, his follow through on a free throw is like 9, 9, 10. You know, like jumps and when he fades away, you're not blocking it. And then defensively, it's fun to watch him play defense. And we don't really say that often about guys, so he's like the obvious, like outlier of just like a complete freak of nature, but also so dedicated to the game. Shay's obviously just on his care will win another MVP in my opinion. And they're the best team in basketball. Another guy that I love watching play is Cade Cunningham.
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B
Nice.
- [56:49]
C
He's like, I think he's so good. I mean, he's so under control.
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B
He finally took off this year. Had Detroit number one in the East.
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C
Yeah. So like I said, games in a good place. And that's just, that's just three of the few young guys that are really good.
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B
Are there guys in the league that you. Would you watch play? You're just like, man, if I just had one dribble, I'd go up and put him in his place and stuff him in the rim.
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C
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like, I don't know, it's hard to. I'm sure, Jason, I'm sure you like, you know, it's hard to not to watch games and think like, oh man, like certain moments, especially end of games, big plays, like big moments, like, it's. That's the one thing that I feel like I do miss that you never really get back. But also like, man, I gave everything I had to my career and I'm happy with what I'm doing now. And it's, it's fun to. Fun to be on this side. But yeah, I'd for sure challenge. Challenge a lot of those guys. I try. It might not go well, but I'd try.
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A
Well, we got to ask you, as two Clevelanders, what do you Think of the Cavs. What are we going to do in the playoffs?
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B
Toronto. Toronto just tied it up.
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C
Yeah, I know. We'll see. So the biggest thing was like, man, like physicality in the playoffs over the last couple of years has sort of been the thing that they, they didn't, they didn't match well. And the first two games against Toronto, you're like, man, this team looks pretty good. You know, they're playing free. I think they're so talented. Donovan Mitchell is unbelievable. We know what James Harden is. I think they just need to get some of that. Like, you know what, like, let's go out and let's play defense aggressively as we possibly can. Take the Oklahoma City model of like, they just foul the shit out of people and they sort of look at the refs like, I dare you to call everyone.
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B
You can't. That was. That's kind of the Belichick way in the NFL. Make them call it in the playoffs.
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C
You know what I mean? And the game just changes in the playoffs. So I love their team. I think, like, especially with, if Orlando gets past Detroit, like, that's their matchup in the second round and Orlando's sort of up and down and they match up well lengthwise. So I think they've got a chance. I. You just need to see them play like a really, a much more physical brand of basketball, I think, in my opinion.
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B
Come on, Mobley.
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C
Come on, baby.
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B
Start throwing those bows in the paint, man.
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C
Mobley was the guy that, like, I realized, like, I should probably retire when I was like, lined up next to him. It's just a freak. Just 611, like, like, couldn't get around him. I was like, you know what,
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A
is there an art with like the fouls to like one not get called, but two just really get in the other person's head. Especially if they're like a shooter. Like, what do you do to like, take a team out of three point shooting by getting maybe their best players rattled?
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C
Yeah, I think it's like very player dependent. Like, some guys don't like contact. Some guys do like contact. The guys that don't like contact, it's about like from the tip, like making sure you get a hand on or they feel you at every moment, you know, like really like making them realize, hey, it's gonna. You're gonna be in for a long night. Like, physically, I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna rough you up a little bit. For team wise, taking away the three is so hard because, like, we Just talked about the court's so spread out. I think that's what Detroit's running into right now is, you know, they don't have a lot of great three point shooting. And on top of that, they're not shooting the ball well from three. And so that court just shrinks, you know, so they're packing the paint so now you're not getting inside as easily and the whole game changes. So defensively, like, to me, physicality in the playoffs is what really like, sets team apart. Like Oklahoma City, like I just mentioned, like, they are. They're on you at every moment of the game. And you know, I say they foul. I wouldn't say they just play so physical that they're sort of setting the team that hits first and sets the, you know, the physicality level. Like, that's the team that sort of dictates the game, in my opinion.
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B
Especially similar in the NFL. Man, if you come out and you fucking set the tone early, man, that'll. That'll put a team in a tough position.
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C
Yeah. Is that like a thing you guys would like to talk or think about is like, hey, like, you know, whether you. Even if you're starting offensively, like, you're like, hey, like, we just want to make our presence felt first.
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A
First drive, first play, we're going to come out in 13%. We're coming out with three tight ends and we're going to run dive right at him and we're going to set this tone. We're coming right down the middle. It would also be also telling what the coaches thought of the game because it'd be like, hey, second play, we're going to start with a trick play and say, okay, you don't think we can have you physically, we're going straight to the trick plays. Got it, coach. We're going fleet flicker. They'll never. We got to sneak one off the top of these boys.
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C
He didn't really believe in this like a. Okay, so like, let me ask you a question. Like, you'd come out like, say you get hit in the mouth first. How hard is it to change that through the course of the game?
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A
I mean, again, that probably it depends on who it is. Like some guys, the physicality affects them more. In some positions it affects them more. Right. Like quarterback, if you get rattled, some of those guys can respond from it. And some of those guys just the rest of the game are thinking about it and it makes them a tick off in their timing or gets them off their spot. They start setting up deeper which messes all sorts of other things up for me, personally. I don't know, like, if I got hit early, I would just be like, man, next time that happens, I'm gonna make sure I don't get molly whopped, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna learn my lesson there. I'm gonna go down with my head down and get a 15 yard penalty, but I'm not letting that happen again.
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B
No, I. I kind of. I kind of need that first hit. I like that first hit to happen early.
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A
For me, it does kind of snap you into it.
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B
It, like, kind of gets the juices flowing, activate some things, gets your. Get your mind into it. And then from there it's just kind of like, you know, the armor is set and you're ready to fucking roll. But I kind of like getting involved early so I get that catch and try and, you know, impose my will or. Or set the tone with the first down or something like that. Get up and start hooting and hollering and get guys pissed off on the other side of the ball. Yeah.
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C
Oh, that's the best. When you know you've got a team pissed off, it's the best, dude.
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A
So you used to play football.
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B
What position you got to? What. What age did you stop playing?
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C
I stopped my sophomore year. I was just, like, playing too much basketball, but I was like, I was a wide receiver and like a safety. I was like. I didn't really, like, fill out until like, after my sophomore year.
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A
You were a safety, were you?
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B
Six, nine? And as a sophomore, how tall were you?
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C
No, no, I was like sophomore year. I was probably only like six or freshman year, I was probably like six, five, six, four. But I was. Dude, I was so skinny, I could not put on weight, so it was like I couldn't play defensive end. I couldn't, you know. And Oklahoma football is like, they take it serious. They're like, just go out there and like, you know, just patrol around and any jump ball, just try to go get it.
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B
Right on, man. Did you ever do the Oklahoma drill?
- [63:47]
C
Oh, yeah, dude.
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B
Let's go.
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C
My eighth grade year is the first year I played tackle. We did the Oklahoma drill, and I made the mistake of like, all right, I'm really gonna kind of like you said, I'm gonna keep my head down and just got hit on the top of the head, like, stinger all down my.
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B
Oh, the old whack. A mole.
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A
Oh, man, that's turtles. Yeah.
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C
The last play of my high school career in the playoffs and caught A pass across the middle, maybe 10 yards. Same play, caught another pass across the middle, 10 yards. We go back to it and this linebacker who assigned to like Tulsa or something, you know, small school in Oklahoma, just absolutely levels me. And all I remember is just like staring up into the night sky, trying to catch my breath. And I see him over me and he just does the penalty. And I was like, you know what? I think we're good.
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A
Well, this is pertinent because we used to ask basketball guys, this wasn't in the rundown, but do you think you could have played in the NFL?
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C
I mean, I would have had to, like, really dedicate time to it. I mean, you never know. I mean, there's so many guys that are like later bloomers. Like, I think, like, when it comes to, like this, like, whole debate, I think it's very interesting because everybody thinks they can do everything else, but it's just like, like, I don't think people realize, like, I've learned this from like talking to like, you know, Whitworth or like Ryan Khalil, you guys know, and it's like listening to them talk about the game of football and like, all the nuances and all the things that they have to think about and do it really, like, lets you know that like, we are all, we all don't know what we're talking about because you watch these guys do it and you're like, wow. Not that it looks easy, but you do it so well that you think, like, oh, I could do that. But you also, you're not thinking about all the variables and all these other things that are going into it. And like, you just don't know until you've been put in that situation. Like, I've had teammates who can't remember the play out of the timeout.
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B
Oh, no. Oh, no.
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C
What are we, like, like, how can we, how could we expect somebody to go out and like, be in a two minute drill and like, remember all this when, like, we can't remember one play?
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A
Just so you know, there's some guys that we've played with that aren't very good out the timeout either. Like, that's not exclusive. There was one player not too long ago.
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B
There was a player not too long ago who is in his later years. I'm not going to say who it was, but would literally leave the huddle on the biggest play of the game and ask me what he had. And I'm just like, what?
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A
God damn it.
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C
Oh, the amount of time. Yeah, it's tough. Like hey, hey, where am I supposed to be?
- [66:28]
B
And then I secretly tell them to do something so that I get open.
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A
It's the best.
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B
All right, here.
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A
Clear it out for me.
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B
Who do you have winning at all in the playoffs this year or the NBA championship?
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C
I just say, I mean, Oklahoma City is the best team, like, barring, like, an injury. I mean, there's a little bit banged up right now, but they look fantastic. The east is super interesting to me because Boston was supposed to be. This was supposed to be like a down, down year, you know, like, with all the injuries. They traded guys away. It was. Jason Tatum was out, and then Jaylen Brown just had a monster year. They had guys step up. Brad Stevens, literally a couple hours ago, one executive of the year. I mean, they just put this team together so well. Joe Missoula is a great coach. Jason Tatum is now back. And so to me now, after watching how, you know, Cleveland looks, Detroit looks, and the Knicks look like, I'm like, man, Boston. Boston, in my opinion right now is the team that's going to match up with. With Oklahoma City in the finals. But Oklahoma City, healthy, man, like, that's tough. They're. They're a good team.
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B
Being from Cleveland, I still hope that they find a way to get physical on the defensive side.
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A
Come on, Cavs. You heard it, boys. Just get physical.
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B
Just listen to Blake.
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A
Come on, listen. Here goes.
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B
Listen to Blake.
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A
Go watch Lance Stevenson clips from when he was with the. Was it Pacers? Do you remember that?
- [67:44]
B
When he was doing the bronze ear? That's not the physicality that we're talking about.
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A
Well, Blake, you and your brother got drafted in the same year.
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B
How about that?
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A
How often do you remind him that you were the first overall pick and he was 48?
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C
Oh, man, you know what? I. Pretty much every day now, that was like, dude, that was like, talk about like a dream come true. I mean, obviously you guys both got to play at the same time, but, like, man, like, draft night, like, it was, like, a little stressful because it was like, you know, I. I was fortunate enough to go on, and then we were kind of waiting around, and then when it happened, it was just like, this is the best night ever. You know, family, friends there and like, you know, to like, do that thing that you've been watching on TV for so long and being like, one day, hope to do it, to do it with your brother, same year was. Was pretty cool.
- [68:42]
B
And your. Your brother's do in the financial world now, right?
- [68:45]
C
Yeah, he's. He started when he Retired. Like my brother. My brother was always like straight A student for perfect. Great basketball player. Yeah, yeah.
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A
So annoying.
- [68:58]
C
I was always Taylor's brother growing up. It was like, oh, there's Taylor's brother. And I was just like. But yeah, so when he retired, like, I was like, man, nobody better to like sort of have in my corner to like help me out. And like, not even like as a man, but he started sort of managing my investment stuff. You know, I was kind of like spread out all over the place and he put his head down and went around and met with a bunch of people and, and really figured out that space really well. I went to work for a PE company and. And now we have a VC fund that we run and it's a blast. I mean it's still to this day being able to like, you know, like you guys being able to like still do stuff together is like just the best.
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B
That was always, I was always little Kels. It was like, yeah, there's little Kelse Willie. He's pretty good at sports, but he can't read or write, so who knows? Who knows? We still haven't seen him play it in game yet. Good kid. Good kid though. Good kid though.
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C
Yeah. Look at you now. You can read now.
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A
Yeah. Thank you.
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B
Audio.
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C
Yeah, that's why Jason does the intros.
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B
Hit that one on the head half the time. I can't even pronounce the name of the people we have on here.
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A
Your dad coached you guys in high school?
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C
Yeah.
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B
Man, you guys had to have won state.
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C
We did. I won four, my brother won two. And it was. We played in like a little bit lower division. But man, my dad was like a, like a legendary high school basketball coach. He's coached for 40 plus years and like, I don't know, 15 state championships, something like that.
- [70:27]
B
And just he must have played, right?
- [70:28]
C
Yeah, he played. He played like basketball and football in college, like, like a small college. And then when he coached football and basketball and then he only coached basketball I think like when I was young, I think maybe like eight or nine, he kind of stopped coaching football and just was like all basketball.
- [70:44]
B
These boys going to the NBA. Waste my time with that pig skin.
- [70:50]
C
He had a vision. Yeah, it was awesome though. It was really cool. And also like, dude, like, you know, like he pushed me harder than maybe another coach would have because he knew exactly how to make me, make me work, you know. And I was like, you know, sounds like I was a little bit more like Travis. Just a little bit scattered everywhere. Getting in Trouble a little bit too much.
- [71:12]
B
Get a good growth spurt. Everybody saw the potential.
- [71:15]
C
Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, okay, now. Okay, now we'll give this kid a chance.
- [71:19]
A
Wow, he's powerful. He. He just jumped the top of the back. That's amazing.
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C
All those quarter squats, man.
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A
That's right.
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B
Dude, when you came on the scene at ou. Holy. Did you know that you were just gonna take it over like that? Like, I. I don't. I don't know how to explain it. We were watching it from the mid, like. Like Cincinnati and Cleveland, and you were dunking on everybody going coast to coast. Just the most athletic, powerful. Did you know? Did you know you, like, we're gonna take over the college basketball world like that?
- [71:53]
C
No, dude. I mean, my freshman year, I had, like, a solid freshman year, and. And I, like, there was some moments my freshman year, I was like, okay, like, I can do this. Like, I feel like, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm getting a little bit of buzz here. But decided to come back. Didn't enter the draft after my freshman year, decided to come back, and, dude, I went away. My brother and I went and. And worked out with us. We found this trainer in San Francisco. Those guys nuts. And we went for two straight months, had no money, you know, in college. And we worked out for two straight months. It was like six days a week. We were, like, running sand hills. And he. It's like unconventional training. We do basketball in the morning, work out in the afternoon, go back and do basketball. And that's when I. When I came back to campus for, like, summer workouts. It was, like, a very clear difference. And, like, it was big for me because it was like, I realized, you know, the value of hard work. And I always felt like I worked hard, but, like, I really, like, put in. Put in a lot of time. And that's sort of when I made that, like, jump. And then my sophomore year was kind of when I sort of broke out, like, on a national scale. But, man, college was so fun. I loved every. Every minute of it.
- [73:01]
B
Was it always Oklahoma?
- [73:02]
C
It actually wasn't. So my brother committed and played there his freshman year. And then they got a new coach. Kelvin Sampson left. There was, like, some recruiting violations. They got in this new coach, and I honestly, like, dude, I loved Kansas. I loved Florida. Thought about going to play with our boy because I've known CP for years, you know, playing AU and stuff. And then I had, like, Duke in North Carolina on my list, but it was. That was kind of like, just Like a. It felt like it was like a. Just a lifelong dream of, like, Duke in North Carolina. But I wanted to go to a place where, like, a. My brother was there. You know, it was close to home, My parents come watch us play. And then also just like, wanted to go to a place where you felt like they really believed in you and you were going to be the guy and you were going to get the opportunity. And I'm so glad I did. Like, that's always kind of my advice to, like, younger guys is like, you can't fall for everything these coaches are telling you because, like, you know, their job's on the line every year just, you know, just like everybody else. So go to a place that you really, you know, appreciated, which is crazy because it's the complete opposite now with Nil.
- [74:07]
B
Dude, I was about to say, you can go. Yeah. And you can get to the league from just about anywhere. And that's any league that is. You know what I mean? That if the film is out there and sometimes all you need is that step in the door, man. But yeah, it's.
- [74:19]
C
It's.
- [74:20]
B
It's way different, especially over there in Oklahoma where you guys got actual, like, booster money.
- [74:25]
C
Yeah, they. Yeah, football players were eating good.
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A
Line was heavy. Very relatable, obviously, with Travis and I go into Cincinnati. But. And that was similar to us is like, I played for three different head coaches. So that was the model back then was like, you got to fall in love with the university and, like, where you're at as opposed to that. Because I could change. I mean, on average, coaches were getting fired or taking promotions within three years, especially at the smaller schools. Like, it was going to be quick turnover, but. Yeah, and I changed all of it. Where do you. Where do you stand on nil? Are you pro nil?
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C
I'm somewhere in between. Because what we've done is effectively created a pro sports model without the things that keep professional sports on the rails, you know, like, and, you know, I'm sure it's hard to, like, unionize, like, all those college athletes. And so to me, what it should be is, like, football, basketball, men's and women's basketball and football are usually the money earners at schools. And, like, so those. Those sports, like, there should be a union. There should be a collective bargaining agreement, There should be a salary cap that we have to sort of reign in. The transfer thing. I get it. Like, you shouldn't be stuck at a school, but you can't. I mean, some guys are on their fifth school.
- [75:38]
A
Yeah. There should be a commitment, like a con, like a one, two, three year deal. Like there should be something from the player that's like, hey, I'm bought into
- [75:44]
C
this relationship as, I mean you said it. Like you have to fall in love with the university. Like I loved going to University of Oklahoma. And I'm not saying like it's wrong now because kids are doing what they should be doing. They go get as much money as possible and you know, for sure not the starter here.
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B
Go to a school that'll pay you to be the starter.
- [76:03]
C
Yeah, there's no, no blame for me on the, on the, on the, the athlete side. I just think there needs to be parameters just because, you know, and also something that's not talked about really is like all the, some of the other sports are being affected by this as well because they're like some, some schools are cutting some of these non revenue.
- [76:22]
A
Oh.
- [76:23]
C
You know, and it's messing up the whole ecosystem. And like, dude, I mean you look at like we're always so good at the Olympics because every college, you have so many different avenues to go wrestle, to go, to go do whatever sport it is you do. And, and if, if, if other sports are affected by this nil and the big money making sports, then I don't think that's okay too. I think everybody, if we're going to pay student athletes, everybody should get some. I'm not saying everybody should get the exact same amount, but everybody should get some. And then there should also be all the other sports should be taken care of as well.
- [76:55]
B
So how much did you get under the table at Oklahoma?
- [77:01]
C
Dude, I was getting gift cards.
- [77:05]
B
Oh, sweet Applebee's.
- [77:07]
A
Hell yeah. Those appetizers at Applebee's are going down easy, boys.
- [77:11]
C
Real Midwestern deep cut.
- [77:13]
A
Yeah, no doubt.
- [77:15]
B
This is luxury Longhorn Steakhouse.
- [77:17]
C
No way, dude. The bread rolls at Longhorn Steakhouse.
- [77:21]
B
We go to St. Joe, Missouri every year, dude. And it is like the classiest establishment in St. Joe. They're gonna kill me for saying that, but it is, it is literally one of the big, I'm only there for the three weeks and it's right next to campus. So we go there whenever we want to like get the team together. I pig out. I, I, we, they just bring the roles out the entire time. Like it doesn't just start in the beginning. It's just like as they, as they come out of the oven, just like, yeah, just bring those things on over here.
- [77:48]
C
It's the best. Especially dude, Especially like these college towns too. Like, you go. You go. Eat like a king, dude.
- [77:53]
A
We had Lane Johnson early. When he got there, he was. I forget if it's Longhorn or Outback, because I always just associate them as, like, pretty much the same restaurant in my head.
- [78:03]
B
Yeah, but one's got rolls, and now there's got blooming onions.
- [78:06]
A
Either way. He's like, dude, you gotta get. Get the chicken fingers. And I'm like, bro, you want me to go get the chicken fingers? He's like, just trust me. I was like, how much have you eaten of, like, Longhorn? To know that the chicken. Chicken fingers is, like, where you've gotten to that part of the menu that you're just getting chicken fingers? So we went and I got the chicken fingers. And he was right. The chicken fingers were absolutely fantastic. Blake, you're drafted number one overall to the Clippers. What was it like going to the NBA being the number one overall draft pick?
- [78:37]
C
I mean, truly, like, you know, obviously, like, a dream come true, but also, like, I don't know if people remember, but, like, the Clippers was like, you put the clip.
- [78:45]
B
Yeah, you took the Clippers up there.
- [78:47]
A
They had the number one pick for a reason.
- [78:48]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
- [78:50]
C
And, like, dude, I remember, like, I think it was. Bill Simmons wrote, like, an article, like, saying, like, it was like an open letter to Tommy Griffin. My dad was like, don't let the Clippers draft your son. Like, you know, like, you know what I mean? Like, because they had. Had. They were famously. Had. Had like, three number one picks that none of them panned out. And so there was, like, a lot of unknown, and it was, like, a little. A little bit daunting, but I kind of, like, it was sort of. You know, it helped, like, the fact that I went to Oklahoma, because it wasn't, like, at the time, it wasn't really a program that, like, you know, it wasn't, like, a top 25 consistently year after year. And the whole conversation I had with my coach, Jeff Cable, there was like, you want to be a part of building something? You know what I mean? It means a lot to do that. And so I sort of had that experience in college, and I kind of went in the NBA sort of with the same mindset of, like, hey, like, you know, let's try to turn this around. And, like, I don't think I realized the history of the Clippers at the time, but, you know, we got. We got lucky. You know, we had some great young players, and Chris Paul came, and that team, you know, started running, and I Think that's one of the things that we're, like, very proud of to this day is like, you know, the Clippers still have their faults, but, like, they're not looked at in the same light, you know, and we felt like we were sort of like, part of that team that sort of tried to change that, that. That, you know, that mindset of the
- [80:14]
B
Clippers when It was you, CP DeAndre Jordan dunking on everybody, every game was a highlight reel. Like that. That shit made everybody Clipper fans, man, and it definitely boosted the stuff. Stock and I. And then you get Steve Ballmer creating a new stadium for him. Like, you could definitely tell that it started when you guys were. Were rocking and rolling and. And in the hunt for it, man,
- [80:39]
A
do you think you got treated differently by guys playing against you because you're number one pick? Like, do you think I had a. Like, a mark on you to be like, yeah, I'm going to show what this guy, what the NBA is like,
- [80:49]
C
or I think a little bit. But, you know, like, it is like, you know, the term, like, brotherhood gets thrown around a lot. And, like, I think when we came in, it was like, a little bit different. Like, guys were. Especially on the Clippers. Like, the Clippers was kind of a place that, like, guys went to at the end of their careers. It couldn't get a contract somewhere else, and, like, they were just trying to make it. And so I didn't feel like it was like an environment where I was really, like, you know, being like, guys taking you under their wing and showing you the way it was. Guys just trying to extend their careers and keep playing. And. And then that changed, you know, when Chris Paul came. And then we had some great vets, you know, Chauncey Billups, Grant Hill. Like, we had Lamar Odom, who was like, just this. One of my favorite teammates, Jamal Crow. So we. We sort of had that later on. But, yeah, I mean, you definitely. I think you have a target on your back as, like, the number one pick. But, like, I also had, like, a chip on my shoulder because I had to sit out my whole first year. You know, my. My first year, I was hurt. And, like, I. Dude, I had to hear for an entire year, I had to hear about how the Clippers messed up another draft, and, like, this guy was going to be a bust. And, like, you know, I'm just sitting there, like, just steaming, just ready to, you know, so ready to, like, play that, like, when I finally did, you know, that next year, I was just like. Was like, you Know, no mercy. Just try to go dunk everything and try to just, like, play as hard as you can.
- [82:06]
B
Then you came in and you went straight to the All Star game, which is. That's the Blake Griffin we all know. Was that the year that you jumped into the dunk contest, too?
- [82:18]
C
Yeah, yeah, that was my rookie year, so, I mean, I set out my whole first year, so that wasn't my rookie year. So the next one I came back. That was my rookie year. And then, yeah, I was like, got lucky, man. Made the all star game and got to do the dunk contest and checked off some boxes.
- [82:32]
B
Everybody looks at the dunk contest like it just isn't what it was because it's. You don't have the huge names that you typically saw. At least we saw growing up the. The superstars of the league. So did you feel that, like, had that always been a dream of yours, or did you feel like you kind of owed that to the. To the game or.
- [82:50]
C
Yeah, I mean, both. I definitely, like. I mean, I. Dude, I would, like, I would record Vince Carter's Come on Now. I recorded him, dude. I mean, that was, like, my childhood, and that was, like, peak, you know, like, watching, like, tapes of, like, Michael Jordan doing the dunk contest and all these big names. Like, it was like, yeah, I want to do that. But also, like, yeah, I do think that, like, there's the reason why the dunk contest kind of is what it is, is, like, guys just don't want to do it anymore. And which is kind of a shame because it's like, I don't know. It's like, have we built it up too much where guys don't want to go do it and fail or, like, you know, for me, like, dude, being the 610, like, 260, like, dunk contests really aren't, like, my specialty. Like, just dunking in game is more, like, my thing. Big guys, like, Dwight. Dwight did it three years, I think, and, like, that was awesome. I thought that was great because, like, it's a big guy who, again, like, not really his specialty, but, like, we just need guys to do it. Like, we need the young guys to do it. We need the Anthony Edwards, the Zions. We need all those guys.
- [83:50]
B
Come on and. Come on, Ant. Just go up there and just.
- [83:54]
A
You don't got to do a whole
- [83:55]
B
360 windmill between the legs.
- [83:57]
A
Like, just go in there and just.
- [83:59]
C
Just do something. You know what I mean? Like, the Aaron Gordon, Zach Levine dunk contest was incredible. It was one of the best Dunk contests ever. And since then, it just. We haven't really had, like, the, you know, the names or, like, the. But I think that's what it is. Like, I think, you know, I. I say this as like, somebody who brought in a car, So I don't know. I. I hope it gets back.
- [84:31]
A
Let's give a fan out of the stands the ability to try and block the dunk so that we can just get posterized, like, images. I don't know.
- [84:42]
B
Yeah.
- [84:42]
C
Is this year. Is this your, like. Is this you trying to, like, get on the court?
- [84:45]
A
I want to be able to block. I want to see if we can block a dog.
- [84:48]
B
Yeah, just slam ball style.
- [84:50]
C
Like, I've been training guys.
- [84:53]
A
I've been doing my quarter squats. I feel like it might happen. Put a force, like, scale. So, like, see who can dunk the hardest. Like, who can apply the most pounds per force to the room. Yes. Who can shatter their skin on their fingers.
- [85:11]
B
The hardest.
- [85:13]
C
Yeah. We got to do something. So I don't know. I appreciate. I appreciate you throwing out these options, Jason.
- [85:18]
A
We want to educate our fans on basketball history. Big moments in the NBA. Can you explain the significance of this photo of a chair?
- [85:28]
C
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, it was yesterday. High level, real quick. DeAndre Jordan is with us for years. Dallas tries to sign him away. Our boy C.P. was on. Dallas at the time was part of the recruiting process. They got DJ to. To commit. And then so DeAndre was like. He had texted me. So he commits to them on, like, a Saturday call. He texts me on Sunday, and he's like, what you think? And I'm like, what do you mean, what do I think? Like, I'd already told him, like, you know, happy for you. You know, you got to do what you got to do. And he's. I can tell he's having second thoughts. And so I get a phone call from Doc Rivers, our coach of, like, hey, I think we can get DJ back, but I need you to get on a plane and go to Houston, where DeAndre's off season house was. And so I'm like, all right. So I'm texting DeAndre, like, hey, I'm coming in. Go to his house, Spend, like, that night, you know, staying with him, making sure that, like, Mark Cuban can't come back in and convince him to sign. And everybody comes in the next day. Doc Rivers, jj, Chris Paul, JJ Reddick, Chris Paul, and myself. And we're all in his house, and we're like, you know, convincing, like, hey, like, this is the place. We want you here. Like, we can do it. And he's like, all right, I'm in. And you can't sign the contract to make it official until, like, midnight that night.
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A
Okay.
- [86:47]
C
Or 11pm because we were Central time. So we're just sitting in his house, and NBA Twitter is going nuts. Just nuts. They're like. There's all the rumors flying around, like, what. What's happening? What's going on? People were saying we held him hostage. So I'm like, all right, well, if we're gonna be stuck here, I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna start with people. So, you know, he'll put the chair under the door, take a picture, send it out, and, like, it was the most nuts day on NBA Twitter.
- [87:14]
B
That's amazing, dude. I mean, nobody. Nobody wanted Lob City to break up. And you guys were so fucking electric. And I've heard through. Through multiple sources. I mean, Joe Dumars was just hyping DeAndre up not too long ago, talking about the type of teammate he is and how he's. He's one of the most veteran, like, leaders. And it's not just in front of the cameras. It's like, he's just. He's just one of the best guys to have on. On your ro because of who he is. And I already know you guys had fucking unbelievable time, but can you speak a little bit upon, like, what. What is it that DeAndre really brought to the team in terms of that energy?
- [87:49]
C
Dude, he's like. I mean, you know, you see him now as, like, a vet, and, like, it's easier for vets to do that, but he was that for us when he was, you know, second, third, fourth year in the league. Like, he's like a connector of people. Not to mention he was just an absolute freak athlete. Like, he. I watch him, like, physically punk a lot of sinners and just, like, also never gets hurt. Like, just, like, he. He's a. He's a monster. But, like, off the court, he's just one of those people that brings people together. You know what I mean? He keeps everything light. He knows he has incredible, like, empathy and eq. Like, his emotional awareness is, like, off the charts where, like, he sees somebody, like, you know, not. Not maybe having their best day or best game, and he'll go put his arm around him because he's built that relationship with each guy on the team. So I definitely. I saw the Joe Dumars quote, and it's so true. I mean, he's like. And now at this point of his career, he's just pouring back into other guys and being a mentor. But he was, like. He was such an important piece for us even when he was younger, you know, in the prime of his career. Just the type of person he is.
- [88:56]
A
Love hearing that.
- [88:57]
B
You guys were unstoppable on the court, but I definitely was throwing lobs left and right on 2K. Dagon.
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A
There you go.
- [89:06]
C
Yeah, it was. It was good. We had a good run. Didn't. Didn't quite reach the mountaintop. But, yeah, it'll. That'll. It'll always haunt me, so. Thanks for bringing that up, guys.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
It's all positive here, man. It's all positive.
- [89:18]
C
Wait, but hold on. What is, like. What is the football equivalent of. Is it just, like, trucking somebody, like, for a touchdown?
- [89:24]
A
There's a few. So getting lost is probably the closest equ, which is like, the receiver jumping up over a DB to catch it. Right.
- [89:33]
B
Another version on the defensive side is just absolutely lighting a motherfucker up. I think that's just. You can't. You don't want to get caught, especially if you see him coming.
- [89:43]
A
That's post.
- [89:44]
B
Yeah. It's one thing if you don't see it coming.
- [89:48]
C
How tough is that in film? Like, the next?
- [89:52]
B
I mean, for me, if I get lit up, it's like, you know, it's part of the gig, you know, Especially if it happens to where I get. I don't see it.
- [89:58]
C
Right.
- [89:59]
B
It happened in my first game. Honestly, I talk about it all the time. Bernard Pollard was, like, fucking back there, like, trying to. He was a veteran at that point, so he was playing for Tennessee, and he was, like, trying to, like, fake whether he was in cover four, cover three, playing the middle field. And he kind of just, like, at the last second, came, like, snuck down into the box. And the last time I looked at him, I was like, all right, cool, he's back. And when I caught the ball, I tried to catch it and, like, use my momentum to, like, get up field, and he fucking rocked me to the point where, like, it's like, what the is going on? What the is going on? Oh, I don't have the ball anymore. And, like, I just grab on to, like, the closest person to me to try and save them from getting to the ball.
- [90:40]
C
Yeah. Yeah.
- [90:41]
B
And I watched that over, like, 10 times, crying, laughing, like, God damn. That's a welcome to the NFL moment if I've ever.
- [90:49]
C
Yeah, for sure. You got. You definitely have to, like, you can't. You can't get salty about, like, getting dunked on or get. You gotta, like, embrace it.
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A
You can't be deleting your Twitter. You just gotta run with it. Right? You just gotta go embrace it. We had a shout out to perk. The worst is when you have just an awful play, but it's like a huge play that you know they're just gonna replay forever. Like, Landon Dickerson's first ever play in the NFL. Landon's an unbelievable guard. He comes in at right guard. He hadn't played. It was his first play in the NFL halfway through the year because his knee was all up from college. Eric Armstead just. Man Mountain Dean, like, Bull rushes him and throws him on his back. And it was, like, one of the biggest plays of the year. And so now, like, for the last four years, you're just. Every time they install that concept of that play and land is just like,
- [91:38]
C
yeah, that's so tough. Like, it's an iconic play that just won't go away. Your whole career.
- [91:44]
A
Yeah. This one again.
- [91:46]
B
Mine is every single time we play the Chargers, I get everybody hitting me up on social media about when Derwin James suplex me at the goal line, man. Literally. It was like. It was like a dead.
- [91:58]
A
It was a posterization.
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B
It was a dead play. It was like Pat's, like, scrambling back and forth. Did he have this dialed up? Brandon, you sick son of a. Very quickly, I had already ran, like, three different routes. Oh, no.
- [92:13]
A
Oh,
- [92:17]
B
worse. The ball, as soon as I hit the ground, shoots up like a goddamn firecracker. And I'm just like. I'm just like, God damn it. Nobody likes to talk about how I made two guys miss on that play.
- [92:29]
C
Yeah. Let alone.
- [92:30]
B
Derwin's just. Strong guy, man. Strong guy.
- [92:36]
C
Strong. He's strong guy.
- [92:38]
B
There's a moment where you're just. You're on top of his shoulders, and I'm just like, oh, no.
- [92:44]
A
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
- [92:46]
B
Looking down, I'm just like. Just hold on to it.
- [92:48]
C
Yeah. Just trying to. Trying to survey your options, and you have none.
- [92:53]
A
Can I put my. Can I lean on somebody else?
- [92:56]
B
Can I throw? Who's open? Is anybody open?
- [92:58]
C
Yeah. But, like, those plays, Those type of plays always happen in such slow.
- [93:03]
B
You already know in real life, 100.
- [93:05]
C
And you're just like. It just replays in your mind over and over and over again. The worst.
- [93:11]
A
All right, we're here, though. We gotta ask. You do not have to answer. We are going to ask who has the better squirrel tweet. Blake or Travis? Blake, you got a squirrel tweet. Oh, yeah, I didn't know this either, but I'm looking forward to. So obviously everyone knows on our show. Blake, I'm not sure if you're aware. This is Travis's squirrel tweet. I just gave us squirrel a piece of bread, and it straight smashed all of it. I had no idea they ate bread like that.
- [93:38]
C
The best part is the ha ha hashtag crazy. That's so good, by the way. That, like, that's like old Twitter was like, that's what it was. It was just people just saying,
- [93:52]
B
guys, you won't believe. You won't believe what just happened.
- [93:55]
A
This was when Twitter was better. Let's just all agree on that. We need to get back to this.
- [94:01]
B
Just so everyone knows, the 12,000 retweets and 300 comments were like 30 years after this. Like, that got absolutely no traction. When I posted said that I was like. I was like, going back to my phone, like, looking at it, like, still nobody.
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A
All right.
- [94:20]
C
Nobody wanted.
- [94:22]
B
Nobody wanted to hit me back. Like, that's crazy, dude. No, no.
- [94:27]
A
All right, here's Blake Street. Accidentally hit a squirrel yesterday in my car. Feel so guilty I could barely sleep.
- [94:40]
C
Yeah, I'll never forget, I was driving home from practice and I just. I like, clipped its leg. And I looked back in the rearview mirror and I see it just, like, struggling. And I was just like, no, Like, I felt so bad. And then, yeah, I don't know. For some reason, by the way, that was Twitter at the time. I was like, yeah, I guess I'll tweet about this.
- [95:01]
B
It's the best, man.
- [95:02]
C
I wish I'd put haha. Crazy though.
- [95:04]
B
I always got to end it with a little hashtag. Man, what's a good hashtag for this crazy?
- [95:12]
C
I would have loved to see, like, your workshop, like, you work shopping. Which other ones you didn't use.
- [95:17]
B
Not a big vocabulary.
- [95:19]
C
That's nuts. Lol.
- [95:20]
B
That's nuts.
- [95:24]
C
That's amazing.
- [95:25]
B
We gotta ask you some rapid fire standard NBA podcast questions. What's your favorite Kobe story?
- [95:31]
C
Oh, man, that I like. That I, like, witnessed myself.
- [95:37]
B
Sure, yeah, sure, yeah. Or one that you heard of. Either one's fine.
- [95:41]
C
Well, I'll give you, like, one that I like. Like, really shows you how much of, like, a just a competitor he is. We're training camp for 2012 Olympics. We're in Vegas doing workouts, and at the time, like, I. I'd been fortunate enough to make the team, and I was kind of like one of the younger guys. And so they would always have other younger guys come in and scrimmage us. And so like Paul George was on the younger team and Aaron Gordon and Kyrie. And so we're. We're scrimmaging like day one, and I'm like, man, like, these guys are like, kind of like they're kind of frying Kobe. And I didn't, like, course I didn't say anything. I was just kind of like taking note of it. And then day two, kind of same thing. I'm like, he does not look good. I'm like, is this in my mind? I'm like, am I seeing the end of like Kobe Bryant? Like, can he not do it anymore? So day three, I'm down in the weight room at the hotel before we go over on the buses for practice. I'm working out, and I see Kobe and his trainer and or two of his trainers and his security guard walking like, kind of through like the. The gym, you know, like going. And they're covered in sweat. I'm like, man, he must have just got it. And I asked one of his trainers, I'm like, you guys, what'd you guys do? You just work out? And he goes, I'm like, what's up? And he goes, kobe's got us doing these like 60 mile bike rides at like 2am and so I realized that he, like, he didn't care about the practice at all. I mean, he practiced hard, but he was going. He was waking his trainers up and they would go for a 60 mile bike ride at 2am in Vegas. This is the only time he could do it because it's Vegas in the summer. And then he would come in, he would go to the weight room and he would work out. He would go eat breakfast and then he would come to practice. And I was like, oh, that's why
- [97:21]
A
he doesn't look okay.
- [97:23]
B
That's why he looks a little slower today.
- [97:25]
C
Everybody else is like in the club and Kobe's like, working out, but like that. That to me is like just like the cigar says. It's an absolute basketball sicko in the best way. You know what I mean? Like, did things to like. Like he. He would do workouts to just gain like a mental edge, feel more confident
- [97:44]
B
about what he's doing. Yeah, that's crazy.
- [97:47]
C
I don't know. I just love that because, like, man, he was like, he was awesome.
- [97:51]
A
He was RIP man now that he's won a playoff game with his son. And we do hate asking this question because it's stupid. Who. But we have to ask it. That's. So I gotta ask. Who's the goat, LeBron or MJ?
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C
Oh, man. I mean, that was a pretty cool moment. I'm such a. Like, such an MJ guy. Like, we all get judged as athletes. We get judged on winning. And I. To me, like, there's. There's no basketball player that has won in a better fashion, in a more dominant fashion than Michael Jordan, like, six times to the finals. Six, zero. Never went to a game seven Finals MVP every year. Like, highest points per game average in the playoffs. Like, he has all these things that, like, I'm just, like. In terms of, like, a career, like, he won the best, and that's how we get judged. LeBron has had, like, the best career from top to bottom. He's still doing it, but, like, you know, I think. I think you go with the way guys win. So I. I have Jordan one. I have LeBron, too, but it. Like, I think the problem with this debate is, like, people think that you're saying that one guy sucks because they're both the best of all time, but, you know, that's. That's. If I have to rank it, that's why. That's what I. That's how I rank those things.
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Who's your all time starting five?
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Ooh, I can't wait to hear this one.
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C
Oh, man. Okay. Okay, let's go. Dude, I'm gonna put. I'm gonna put Steph at one. The one. The point guard.
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A
Yeah, that makes sense. Get him out on the court. He needs to be out there.
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Yeah. Put that ball in his hands. Let him do what he does. So I'm gonna go MJ 2, LeBron at the 3. Tim Duncan at the 4.
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Tim Duncan.
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Tim Duncan is my favorite power forward of. I mean, he's the best power forward of all time.
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The technician.
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God damn it. The bank is always open. Did you ever fucking hit a bank shot from, like, 20ft out? Because that was, like, his patent move.
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I'll tell you what I tried.
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B
He made it look like it was easier. Like, you had a better percentage if you went bank from anywhere on that angle.
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Yeah.
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Big fundamental. That's my. That's my Going to be my four, and then I'm going to go. I'm going to go, Shaq. Just the most dominant player of all time at the
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o'.
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C
Neill.
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B
I mean, yeah, that's. You can't argue with that.
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C
What's crazy is, like, I just had to, like, leave Kobe off the list.
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B
That is Crazy.
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C
If you're not doing it by like, okay, I need a point guard and all this. Like, I would just go Kobe, MJ, LeBron, and then I would go Tim Duncan, you know, so. But I'm just, you know, I like to mix it up.
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B
Yeah, all right, I hear you.
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C
Sorry. These, I'm not really rapid firing these. I'm giving a long, drawn out explanation of everything.
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A
We'll cut it up. We'll cut it up. It'll seem real fast. They'll be like, man, he was quick with that starting five. You've done stand up before. Is comedy something that you want to pursue more of? Do you want a full time be in the club? Like, where are you at in your
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B
stand up career in the club?
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C
I want to be in the club every day. Yeah. I don't know. I love stand up, man. It's. It's like fascinating to me. It's like a really fun challenge. I. I just love comedy, man. I, I love it so much. And, and I'm working on a couple of things. Nothing I'm not really working on stand up right now, but I kind of always have. I keep like a notes folder of jokes, so I'm like, kind of always like writing jokes. If, like, I think of something, I don't know what I'm gonna do with it, but maybe someday it'd be pretty cool to have like a special at one point.
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A
Yes.
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C
I don't know. I don't know. We'll see.
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B
Is that. Have you. All right, so you've just kind of like tested the waters in the standup world.
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C
Yeah, I've done like, I wouldn't hosted this show at this big comedy festival, I think, for the first time. And then I've done stuff here and there. I did like a roast, a Comedy Central roast, which is all like, really fun. But my thing about stand up too is, like, I don't want to go to like the Comedy Store and like, ask for time and then somebody gets bumped, like some guy who's like grinding, trying to make it, like, sure, you know?
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A
Sure.
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But I do love it. So I'm working on some, some projects right now that are like comedy based and, you know, we'll see. See how those go.
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Give me, give me your top three comics of all time.
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C
For me, Chappelle is like, like, it was just like my era, you know, like, dude, we were like, we were in high school, like when Chappelle was
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A
like that first episode. I will never forget going into the school the next day after Clayton Bigsby made television debut.
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C
Oh, my gosh, dude. If you, like, didn't watch the show like, that Wednesday night on Thursday, like, you weren't involved in conversations.
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A
So true.
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C
I'm Rick James Chappelle is like, definitely my. Definitely my top three. I gotta. I got to go. Like Eddie Murphy.
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B
Okay.
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A
Taking it back. Nice Leather. The leather tracksuit or jumpsuit or whatever.
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C
Yeah. Delirious. Eddie Murphy, delirious. I can't say that guy's canceled.
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A
Comedians are. They're walking a fine line usually.
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C
Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know. You know, I love now like. Like, probably you can't really put him in a top three, but right now, like, dude, Shane Gillis is just everything he touches, man.
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B
He's probably one of my favorites, if not all time, dog. Every single time I see that dude on screen, I am dying laughing. Yeah, dude.
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C
And it does, like, it could be like, just him. A podcast clip of him just talking.
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B
Like, he's just.
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C
And it's just he always has something. Yeah, it's. It's really incredible. So I hope he keeps going on that trajectory. So I'll go with those three. I'll probably get some flack for Shane being in the top three at this point of his career, but he's on
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B
his way 100, especially with Tyrus. All right, let's get into our last question. We always ask everybody, what was their welcome to their profession moment? So what was your welcome to NBA moment for you?
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C
Oh, man, I'd say my. The first time I played against Kobe, you know, I'm like, so hyped up and jump before the jump ball. He's like, hey, what's up, young fellow? Like, congratulations. I'm like, man, are me and Kobe boys?
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I think we're going to be best friends.
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I knew he knew who I was.
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C
We might. There's a chance we hang out after this. So I'm sitting like, you know, this is like maybe second quarter. I'm sitting like this pin down screen. And so from. From my teammate, and he's guarding him. Kobe's guarding him, and he's coming off and like, Kobe's just like, we talked. He's a. Just a competitor. And he comes off that screen so hard and just catches me in the stomach harder than I've ever been hit in the stomach in my life. I'm just like, doubled over and just like, rethink. I'm like, you know what? Maybe we're not friends.
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B
He was a lot nicer before than
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C
he is now, but it was like a Good reminder of like, it was like kind of like that welcome to the NBA was like, no, you can say hello before the game, but you know that. That jumball happens. Like it's. It's war.
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B
Hell yeah.
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C
And he was like the. You know, he was like maybe one of the last great guys who like, it was like cool before the game, cool after the game, during the game, you. You're the enemy. You know what I mean? I love that. I just think it's great because it's no hard feelings. It's like we're.
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B
We're competing ultimate competitive, man. And you definitely had that too, brother. Blake, thank you so much for the story, dog. Thank you for the time. One of my all time favorites on the court, dog. And I honestly, ever since we got the hang, dog, just the fucking best, man. It's always fucking laughs through the fucking roof. And can't wait to see how the. The rest of the Amazon stuff goes for you these playoffs. We'll be watching, brother.
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C
I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me, man.
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A
Thank you to Blake Griffin. That conversation was once again brought to you by Reese's. Or as Travis and I call it, Reese's. He is the best. I mean, hilarious. I.
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B
It's fun going down memory lane with the big guy, man.
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A
Smart as hell. Also funny as can chop it up. Can goof be a goo ball.
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B
He is jack of all trades, man.
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A
Was an incredible player, but he is made for doing TV and entertainment.
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B
I forgot to ask him about how why is he so good at commercials? I forgot to ask him, man. He is literally one of the best. The best commercial like athletes into endorsements. Commercials wise, bro. God damn it. Oh, well, I have to ask him in person next time I see him.
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A
He's got the it factor. He's. Nobody's saying he's overexposed. Nobody was yelling at him for going.
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B
Nobody's yelling.
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A
He just got it.
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B
He's just got these Kelsey's off my screen. God damn it.
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A
All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Blake Griffin. Also, there are still tickets available for our New Heights live show in LA on June 15th. Let's go link in the description.
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C
Let's go.
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A
Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast.
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B
Once again, New Heights of Wonder show brought to you by Xfinity. Follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. We're gonna have a bunch with our guy, Blake. Thank you to New Heights production team. Thank you to the 92 percenters for tuning in. We'll see you guys next week, baby.
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C
Peace.
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A
This is. This is the first day. Just want to preface. This is the first I've tried a dungo basketball in 20 years. Oh, I'm gonna turn my ACL trying
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B
to do this anymore.
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A
All right, that's good enough attempt for today.
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B
That's it for today.
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A
Full disclosure. That's a nine foot rim. That's enough. Okay, this was pre quarter squad. I'm telling you, if I show you some later clips. I think it did.
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B
I'll vouch. I'll vouch. It did get better after this. Yes. He. I told him. I was like, bro, you're like gathering steps. You look like a idiot.
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C
You look like an offensive lineman.
- [108:16]
A
Exactly.
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B
We got to get your technique down. Go watch some Blake Griffin highlights. Watch how he gathers.
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C
We got. It's all about the approach in the last two steps.
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B
And then there we go.
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C
Gotta work on those hands, too.
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B
Maybe we gotta. Maybe we could space them out. You got spacers, Jason.
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A
I was spraying tough skin. The stuff they put on your ankles before they tape them up.
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B
I will say this. Jason's only working with four fingers. He snapped attended.
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A
One of them's not great.
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C
Yeah, that's not. Yeah, that doesn't help.
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B
God, that was hilarious, dude. I hadn't seen that first clip in a minute.
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C
We got some work to do, but we'll get you there.