Offseason Plans, Wildcard Preview & Matt Damon on Brady, Affleck Bromance & Career Odyssey | EP 174

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Episode 174 – “Offseason Plans, Wildcard Preview & Matt Damon on Brady, Affleck Bromance & Career Odyssey”

Release Date: January 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode packs the perfect New Heights punch: brotherly banter, raw NFL insight, post-season emotions, and a blockbuster Hollywood guest. Jason and Travis Kelce, fresh off their respective regular seasons, break down their teams’ finishes, preview the NFL’s Wildcard round, and reflect on career milestones. The show’s centerpiece is an extended, candid, and hilarious interview with actor, writer, and producer Matt Damon—covering everything from Boston sports and the “Affleck bromance” to the secrets behind multi-decade Hollywood success.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. NFL Season Wrap-Up & Wildcard Week Preview

[04:41–22:29]

Chiefs Season Reflection (Travis)

• Travis discusses how injury and tough finishes defined the end of the Chiefs’ regular season, expressing gratitude for his teammates and the “love of the game.”
  • Quote: “It's a tough way to go out, especially with the amount of success and the standard that you hold … you try to learn from it, figure out where it went wrong. It's just a shitty feeling.” (06:06–06:28)
• Travis ponders his NFL future, stating he needs to decompress and assess his body and mind before committing to 2026.
  • Quote: “Every season ends for me, I put my feet up and just be a human ... try and figure out what I'm going to do next in terms of my future in football.” (08:48–10:26)

Eagles' Approach & Backup Strategy (Jason)

• Jason explains why the Eagles rested key starters in Week 18 and accepts public criticism, citing the importance of health over uncertain playoff seeding.
  • Quote: “If we play our stars in a game like this, it ended up costing us ... I think, at this point in the season, when you have the ability to avoid someone getting hurt—you do it.” (12:46–14:23)

Wildcard Week Breakdown

• The brothers analyze NFC and AFC matchups, identifying potential upsets and “dark horse” contenders (Jacksonville gets repeated dark horse nods).
• Fun banter about playoff seeding, league parity, and which games they're most excited for:
  • Travis: Excited about “Buffalo at Jacksonville” and “Herbert vs. Drake May in New England” (19:02–18:53)
  • Jason: “The game I’m most excited about is Philly vs. San Fran. That’s one of the more exciting games in the first round.” (18:11)

2. Travis’ Milestones & Records

[07:21–08:43]

• Third tight end ever with 13,000 receiving yards (behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Whitten).
• Tied for longest streak of 75+ catch seasons (10, matching Tim Brown).
• 8th most receptions in NFL history for any position.
  • Quote: “Coach Reid dials me up ... in my 13th year, he’s still trusting me to try and win him some ball games.” (08:10)

3. Stamps of the Week

[22:29–24:23]

• Jason: Miles Garrett breaks single-season sack record (23 sacks).
  • Quote: “Anytime somebody breaks a freaking all-time season record…they’re going to get the stamp of the week.” (22:46)
• Travis: Cleveland Heights’ Layla Edwards becomes the first Black woman to play for the U.S. women’s national hockey team at the Olympics.
  • Quote: “Layla Edwards is heading to the Olympics…even cooler, our hometown, Cleveland Heights, Ohio!” (24:04)

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Main Interview: Matt Damon

[27:28–83:11]

Matt Damon Introduction

• Matt drops in, joking about how Instagram only recommends New Heights clips to him now.
  • Quote: “For some reason my Instagram thinks you’re the only thing I want to watch.” (27:32)
• The brothers run down Damon’s long list of career highlights, from Good Will Hunting to Jason Bourne, and hype up his new film The Rip.

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1. Behind the Scenes: "The Rip"

• Damon shares that The Rip, his new Netflix film, is inspired by real-life Money Seizure squads that use dogs trained to sniff out cash in Miami.
  • Damon: “There are these programs in Miami where they take tips to go get money got by ill-gotten gains …they have dogs that smell for money…” (29:15)
• On how the movie came together via his studio with Ben Affleck:
  • “Ben and I have a studio…people are starting to become aware of that…this came to us through Joe Carnahan.” (30:37–31:22)

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2. Affleck Bromance & Career Stories

• “What’s the dumbest thing you’ve convinced Ben to do?”
  • Matt traces their start to “taking the bus for seven hours to New York for auditions at age 14 and 16…Our whole life was a stupid week.”
  • Quote: “If you—the odds of it working out were so long against … our whole life has been, I mean… the whole idea was kind of dumb to begin with.” (31:46–32:35)
• On selling Good Will Hunting—the windfall wasn’t as life-changing as it seemed.
  • “We sold the screenplay for $600 grand. After taxes and agent…it was under $150k each. First thing we did was buy brand new Jeep Grand Cherokees.” (33:48–33:59)
• On Hollywood residuals and fair pay:
  • “If you do something like that as one of the real contributors…if there’s money in perpetuity, you should be a part of that.” (35:01)

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3. The Odyssey & Getting Ripped for Roles

• Damon plays Odysseus in The Odyssey (coming July 2026). He describes getting into peak shape and going gluten-free for the role.
  • “He wanted me lean but strong … I did that whole movie at 167 lbs, I haven’t been that light since high school.” (37:00–37:19)

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4. Working with Directors & Learning the Craft

• Compares filmmaking to NFL “preseason” and the value of great crews.
• Discusses how directors like Chris Nolan (who shot The Odyssey entirely on IMAX) and Clint Eastwood differ in their editing approach:
  • “It’s a director’s medium…your allegiance has to be to the best idea…if everyone does that, everything’s going to work out.” (58:15)

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5. Boston Sports Deep Dive

Patriots Hopes and QB Discussion

• Matt is unashamedly optimistic about New England’s future with Drake May:
  • “I can’t believe we got this lucky in New England…three-year playoff drought, and all of a sudden you got another franchise quarterback.” (43:32–43:46)
  • On expectations for the Patriots in the postseason:
    Quote: “This is like found money for us…if we get bounced in the first round, I still think this is a massive year.” (46:10–46:28)

Tom Brady Memories

• Matt tells a classic story of taking his nephew to meet Brady in Miami:
  • “Tom comes running over, gets in my nephew's face: 'You gonna root for me today, Troy?' ... Then he goes, 'We're gonna kill these guys.'” (51:57)
• On Boston’s championship years:
  • “Brady gave us … 20 years of him. We don’t deserve Drake May, but we’ll take him!” (49:40)

Red Sox & Fenway Nostalgia

• Matt’s best sports moment: hitting a ball off the Green Monster, pitched by his dad during a 1999 MLB All-Star game event. (49:35)
• Favorite seat in Fenway: On top of the Green Monster. (54:19)
• Idol: Carlton Fisk, referenced in Good Will Hunting. (53:29)

Super Bowl LII: Jason's Eagles vs. Patriots

• Matt's still disbelief over Malcolm Butler's controversial benching:
  • “I still don’t understand why he didn’t put Malcolm Butler in the game. Never answered it.” (55:38)
• Both Kelces and Damon agree it was one of the most exciting, high-scoring Super Bowls ever.

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6. Hollywood Wisdom and War Stories

On Collaborating & Avoiding Ego

• “Ego is the enemy of everything. Your allegiance has to be to the best idea. You’re all a lesser part of the thing you’re making.” (58:15)
• “With a director, it’s like a benevolent dictatorship … like Coach Andy Reid is the director: he’s getting 51%. Travis, shut up!" (59:37–59:46)

Retirement & Athlete Parallels

• Damon recounts Michael Strahan’s comparison of NFL life:
  • “He turns to me and goes, ‘Matt, I get in 35 car accidents a week.’” (61:09)
• The pain of aging in sports:
  • “You guys get better at your job, but your skills decline as you age. Mentally, you keep going up, physically—going down.” (62:47)

On Learning by Doing

• Advice for film writing or acting: “It’s a trade. Just do it. Be around other people doing it. Read scripts, apprentice yourself.” (80:28)

“Welcome to Hollywood” Moment

• Watching Robin Williams and Stellan Skarsgård reading lines from Good Will Hunting on the first day of filming brought him to tears (79:07).

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7. Quick Hits and Boston Banter

• First movie with Ben Affleck: extra work in The Good Mother before even Field of Dreams (35:30).
• Would Damon do another Oceans film?
  • “There’s always talk…you never know how things will coalesce, but I love that group of guys.” (73:08)
• Ran a play breakdown for School Ties (breakdown is full of laughter and self-deprecation; “Not only could I not do the cut block, Brendan Fraser had to throw me into the right position.” (74:28))
• On working with Michael Jordan for Air: No, but Ben went to see him; Jordan requested Viola Davis play his mother.
  • “Ben called me up … ‘Good news, bad news: We got Mike’s blessing. Bad news: We have to rewrite the script; it’s all about his mother now.’” (76:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Travis Kelce: “It’s a shitty feeling…and in a shitty way to try and navigate one of the things you love to do the most.” (06:06)
• Jason Kelce: “If they start the starters and one of the premier guys gets hurt…everybody’s gonna be on Nick Sirianni like, ‘What fucking idiot is playing his guys in a meaningless game?!’” (12:30)
• Matt Damon: “Our whole life has been [doing] stupid shit. If you—the odds of it working out…were so long.” (31:46)
• Matt Damon: “If you do something like that as one of the real contributors, then…if there’s money in perpetuity, you should be a part of that.” (35:01)
• Matt Damon on Red Sox moment: "I hit one off the Green Monster off my dad. We both looked at each other—I'll never need therapy in my life." (49:35)
• Matt Damon: “Ego is the enemy of everything. That’s my … It really is. Your allegiance has to be to the best idea.” (58:15)
• Travis Kelce: "With a director...Coach Andy Reid is the director. He's getting 51%." (59:46)
• Matt Damon on acting advice: “It’s a trade…just do it. Read scripts, apprentice yourself.” (80:28)
• Matt Damon: “Don’t blink…my daughter broke her collarbone and asked me to brush her hair. I hadn’t brushed her hair in nine years…it buckled me, man.” (69:02)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |--------------------------------------------|--------------------| | Chiefs’ & Eagles’ Season Recap | 04:41–14:23 | | NFL Playoff Picture & Predictions | 14:23–22:29 | | Stamps of the Week (NFL honors, Olympics) | 22:29–24:23 | | Matt Damon Interview Begins | 27:28 | | The Rip (New Movie) | 29:15–31:22 | | Early Career/Good Will Hunting | 31:46–35:01 | | On “Odyssey” and Training for Roles | 36:33–39:29 | | Boston Sports Discussion | 42:06–55:38 | | Super Bowl LII: Eagles vs. Patriots | 55:38–58:12 | | Hollywood Collaboration & Ego | 58:15–60:09 | | Athlete Retirement & Parallels | 61:09–64:18 | | Matt’s Advice/Q&A/Rapid Fire | 68:13–83:03 | | Outro/Thanks/Final Banter | 83:11–86:32 |

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Overall Tone & Style

• True-to-life New Heights energy: loose, irreverent, deeply knowledgeable, with plenty of ball-busting.
• Damon fits perfectly, vacillating between humility, nostalgia, insight, and riotous Boston sports fan.
• The episode consistently balances hard football talk, behind-the-curtain Hollywood tidbits, and a massive dose of heart.

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For Listeners Seeking Key Takeaways

• NFL fans will love the raw honesty from both Kelces about emotional season endings and the challenges of professional uncertainty.
• Movie buffs get a rare seat at the table to hear about the business of filmmaking, actor friendships, and how Damon remains grounded through fame.
• Boston sports diehards will especially appreciate Damon’s stories (from Fenway to Tom Brady) and his undying optimism for the Pats’ future with Drake May.
• Anyone facing career crossroads will find resonance in the conversations about mentorship, aging, growth, and balancing ego versus teamwork.

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Memorable "Wow" Moment:
Matt Damon hitting a ball off the Green Monster, pitched by his father during All-Star Game week—“I’ll never need therapy in my life, I’ll just go back to this moment.” (49:35)

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Highly Recommended Segments for Quick Listening

• Damon on Hollywood friendships and Good Will Hunting: 31:46–35:01
• Travis on football’s emotional toll and possible retirement: 08:48–10:26 & 60:09–64:18
• Jason and Matt dissecting Super Bowl LII and “what happened to Malcolm Butler”: 55:38–58:12
• Matt on raising daughters (“don’t blink”): 69:02–71:11

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This episode is a prime example of New Heights at full power—sincere, chaotic, and occasionally profound.

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Summary created by an expert summarizer. All timestamps and quotes preserved for reference and context. Original language and tone maintained.

Transcript

[Jason Kelce]

How do you think the Patriots will do in the playoffs? Are you guys so spoiled that it's like if they don't win the super bowl, you guys are going to be upset?

[Matt Damon]

No. Or is this like, not at all? I mean, this is a new. This is a new team, right? And I think. I think this is, like, found money for us, right? Like, I feel like it's.

[Jason Kelce]

It's from the rip. You guys busted up the wall. You found a quarterback, $20 million quarterback sitting in the wall.

[Matt Damon]

He broke in Sledgehammer. And there was Drake May.

[Travis Kelce]

Wel to new heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 92 percenters from all over a onery show brought to you by Intuit Turbo Tax. Oh, it's starting to get the tax season, baby. Don't forget to pay your taxes.

[Jason Kelce]

Unfortunately, they will knock on the door and you do need to pay them.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Tigers and shout out to those Bearcats, baby. Subscribe on YouTube 13 plus, wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. I am officially jobless, Jason. Actually, this is my only job.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, no, you're still employed unless you stop playing. Have you announced your stop playing?

[Travis Kelce]

This is the only company that employs me right now.

[Jason Kelce]

You got a great episode coming up. We're gonna recap everything that happened in the final week of the regular season as well as dive into these upcoming wild card weekend games. Excited for some playoffs. Playoffs. You know what I'm excited for? Tell us Damon. That's right. He's coming in the back.

[Travis Kelce]

That's right.

[Jason Kelce]

We got him. We got Will. We got Jason Bourne.

[Travis Kelce]

We got one of the most iconic.

[Jason Kelce]

Actors of this generation. He's going to come. We're going to make you wait for it. He'll be after we talked a little bit of football. But you're going to. You're going to get through it with us, all right?

[Travis Kelce]

We're.

[Jason Kelce]

We can. Just so you know, we can't wait for Matt either. All right.

[Travis Kelce]

All right, here we go.

[Jason Kelce]

Let's start off what we always start off with. Lublin.

[Travis Kelce]

New news. New news.

[Jason Kelce]

New news is brought to you by American Express. Okay. Update from the Amazon Holiday giving initiative. This holiday season, over thousand Operation Breakthrough families in KC were provided with gifts and essential needs. That's right. How about that? Well done. Thank you to all the 92 percenters and our friends, of course, at Amazon. Well, Done. Amazon.

[Travis Kelce]

It's awesome, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Well done, 92 percenters. Because of everyone involved with this entire initiative, 3,000 Operation Breakthrough families have had something around the holidays, which, I mean, if that's not the Christmas spirit, I don't know what is. And for the third time, Travis Kelce has won the Nationwide Walter Payton man of the Year Charity Challenge.

[Travis Kelce]

About it, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Every year, each team nominates one player to be their Walter Payton man of the Year. When you get nominated, there is a fan vote that happens on socials and on the Internet. And if you win that, you. You win the charity challenge. You're the only player to win the charity challenge each time they've been nominated.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, it's Chief's Kingdom, baby.

[Jason Kelce]

As the club's Walter Payton man of the Year. Shout out to Chief's Kingdom. Shout out to the 92 percenters. Operation Breakthrough also dropped some throwback pics here because you've been involved there for a while.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, we've been doing this since. Since.

[Jason Kelce]

Look at these, folks.

[Travis Kelce]

Beginning of my career. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

The young Travis Kelce right here.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go. Oh, yeah. In the muffler shop. And then. Ooh, the early days, man. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny seeing some of these pictures. The original robotics lab that. That 87 are running. My foundations help support that robot right there. You see that young girl?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Holding up. And now she is, like, one of the. The, like, high school kids that are now have been using Operation Breakthrough and all its resources for a while. So it's cool to see some of these familiar faces grow into high school kids. And kind of awesome. Yeah, it's awesome, man. And one of my first foundation events, I used to do a walk. The walk. It used to be a. A fashion show that I used to put on some of the boutiques. And. And the kids over at Operation Breakthrough got to walk in it. So shout out to everyone over at ob. You guys know how much I love you and how much you guys mean to me, and it just means everything that 92 percenters and Chief's Kingdom out there help support that. And. And. And it's all to make these kids right here happy and proud of where they come from, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, just so you guys know, everything from the nationwide Walter Payton man of the Year Charity Challenge goes to support Operation Breakthrough. So you guys are awesome. Thank you so much. And thank you to everybody who voted for Travis and who has helped Operation Breakthrough out. It's a fantastic organization in Kansas City. They do so many things for these kids. And Families. So well done everyone. And that wraps up new news, which is brought to you once again by American Express.

[Travis Kelce]

Let's move on to some bold topics to wrap up week 18 in the NFL. Wow. Week 18. I forgot we even had 18 weeks. It's a 17 game season. Bold topics are brought to you by KFC.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, we got some snackers from famous KFC bulls. All right, here we go. Chiefs 12, Raiders 14. What are your thoughts on the season, Trev? What are your closing sentiments from this chief season?

[Travis Kelce]

You know, it was, it was a tough season. Obviously ended even worse because my guy, 15 went down and you know, we finished the season with a lot of starters kind of being banged up. So we had a, had a mixture of guys that were getting their first taste of what the NFL has to offer, which is fun, but it definitely has its challenges and you know, it's, it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough way to go out, especially with the amount of success and the standard that you hold, you know, yourself and the team to going into the season and throughout the season. And you try and look back on it, you know, right away and you try and, you know, learn from it and, and, and maybe try, even try and figure out where it all went wrong and how you could have been better in certain situations. And it's just a shitty feeling and in a shitty way to try and navigate one of the things you do you love to do the most, and that's play football. And you know, I just, I appreciate everybody that was in that building and that was on the field the past like three, four weeks when we knew we really didn't have much to play for other than the love of the game and the, the pride and the honor that comes with playing in the NFL. But I just, I appreciate everybody that, that was out there giving it their all and putting their body on the line and made it as, as good as, as we could have going going into the last week and then the, and the end of the season.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, there's nothing worse than, you know, not making the playoffs. It is very frustrating. You guys have done it, especially when you guys have done it so much. Like it's absolutely crazy. And you guys obviously should be very proud of that. But that doesn't make any. It hurt. It actually probably hurts more, I would assume.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, this kind of an embarrassing feeling. But you know, you, you keep it moving, man. You keep it moving. And I'm still a fan of the game and I still love the game so I'll be tuned in throughout the playoffs, seeing how this thing shakes out over the next couple weeks. And yeah, get to be around some friends and family in January instead of, uh, trying to figure out how to win some playoff games.

[Jason Kelce]

The season did not come without you guys winning some things, especially you, Trav, with some records being broken. Let's have a little reminder, since you love talking about records so much and stats.

[Matt Damon]

All right?

[Jason Kelce]

You became the third tight end ever with 13,000 receiving yards, the fastest to ever accomplish that feat. Guys in front of you, of course, another Kansas City legend, Tony Gonzalez, who, I mean, absolutely insane. How many years Tony has.

[Travis Kelce]

No, it's absolutely insane, as you're right. He's fucking silly.

[Jason Kelce]

And then obviously Jason Whitten down in Dallas. Travis, the third one to get over the 13,000 yard marker, which is a very fitting number, I think. You also passed to. For 8th most receptions in NFL history. Did you know that?

[Travis Kelce]

Yes, I've known all. They asked me about all this stuff after the game, so that's how I. That's how I really know.

[Jason Kelce]

That's crazy. I didn't know you were 8th of receptions. Just period. That's awesome.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, Coach Reed dials me up. I don't know what else to tell you. I think when he puts together game plan, he features me, and I'm very fortunate of that. And I'm fortunate that in my 13th year, he was still trusting me to try and win him some ball games. So shout out to coach for, you know, helping me accumulate some of these yards and catches.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, another record is you are now tied with Tim Brown for the longest streak of seasons with 75 plus receptions at 10.

[Travis Kelce]

That's a LeBron step, 100%.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, that's the LeBron step.

[Travis Kelce]

Shout out to Tim Brown, though.

[Jason Kelce]

Now that the season is over, what is next for the Bigetti?

[Travis Kelce]

Every season ends for me, I put my feet up and I just be a human because, yeah, I've been putting my body through the ringer for. For the love of it. You know, I do, I do enjoy playing football and the. The physical aspect of it. I think there's something about, you know, feeling the. The wear and tear of the football season to just, you know, getting ready for a game, knowing that your body's beat down. Man, I just. I think there's. There's something to it makes you just feel like a. Like a mangy animal that just is out here just finding a way to survive. And I just love that. But, yeah, I think, yeah, just being a regular Human for, for a couple weeks, maybe a. A month or so, and try and figure out what I'm gonna do next in, in terms of my future in football. And I think, you know, I've talked to a few people in the facility already, you know, having the exit meetings and everything, and they, they know where I stand, at least right now. And I think there's, There's a lot of love for the game that's, that's still there, and I don't think I'll ever lose that. And I don't know, it's. It's a, It's a tough thing to navigate, but at the same time, you know, I think if. I think my, if my body can, can heal up and rest up and I can. I can feel confident that I can go out there and give it another 18, 20, 21 week run, I think I would do it in a heartbeat. So I think right now it's just finding that answer and, and seeing how the, the body feels after this game and kind of when it all settles down.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm confused. So you're not already coming back?

[Travis Kelce]

What?

[Jason Kelce]

Chris Jones has said that you're coming back? I thought this was already nice.

[Travis Kelce]

That's why we love Chris. He's very optimistic. He's very optimistic.

[Jason Kelce]

Chris Jones's code is. I'm not buying it. He'll be back next year. He also followed that up, though. He said, I can't promise you anything. Nice.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go. Yeah, let's keep this thing moving a little. Eagles 17, Commanders 24 Jason, you want some thoughts on the game? I mean, obviously the Eagles didn't play all their starters, but yeah, I mean.

[Jason Kelce]

That'S the big storyline is obviously the way it worked this past week for the Eagles was if, you know, Detroit beat Chicago, which did end up happening, and if the Eagles win, the Eagles could have jumped up to the two seed. The Eagles obviously elected to rest their starters because they prioritize the rest going into the playoffs, which I think is right. I mean, it's. If the Eagles could have guaranteed getting the 2 seed by playing their starters, I think they probably would have played. But because there was this other game that also had to take place, you have the risk of injury. It's kind of outside of your control. The one thing you can control in that situation is making sure your team is rearing and ready to go for week one. And I also, to be honest with you, I felt pretty confident the Eagles backups would beat the commanders, and I think that they should have. They didn't finish the game well, they started off pretty good. Tank Bigsby was running crazy. I was excited to see Tanner McKee. He's played well in most of his outings with the Eagles. So there was a portion of me they just wanted to see what some of these backups and young guys could do. But yeah, it looks bad in hindsight. This is one of those things where, you know, because Chicago loss, you know, we got the egg on our face because we didn't play our starters and we could have the 2 seed most likely if we would have played everybody. But I think of it like this.

[Travis Kelce]

Too is like Monday morning quarterback.

[Jason Kelce]

If they start the starters and one of the premier guys gets hurt and the Lions don't win, then everybody's going to be on Nick Sirianni belly. What fucking idiot is playing his game Gu in a game that's meaningless, Damn.

[Travis Kelce]

If you do, damn if you don't.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, and we were in the same a similar situation in 2023 my last year and the offense was struggling. We really actually had less to gain. Like we weren't really playing for anything in that week, if I recall it correctly. And we go out there and we play and what happens? A.J. brown gets hurt and he couldn't play in the first playoff game. Jalen Hurts also got banged up in that game and I do think that that was also in the back of the Nick Sirianni and the Eagles head of like listen, the last time we played our guys in a game like this, it ended up costing us some meaningful people and we weren't at our best against Tampa Bay. I think at this point in the season when you get the rest and you have the opportunity to avoid somebody getting hurt and you don't know for certain that playing guys is going to help you. I don't know that it benefits you that much. And at the end of the day, you still got to go through good teams to win the Super Bowl. Like yeah, if we play, if we're the 2 seed and we can guarantee two home games, that is a big thing. That is a big deal. But at the same time, like we're going to have to play great teams regardless. And now we get a week of rest. All of our starters, Landon, our whole offensive line has been so banged up, a lot of those guys got the ability to get healthier and then we're going to get to place and now we get San Fran who just fought their tails off with a juggernaut of Seattle and they're going to be coming to The east coast, you know, I think if this team is good enough, they're still going to find a way to get it done. I don't think that decision in week 18 is going to determine the outcome of this team. I just think that when we play up to our potential with the defense we have and with the offensive firepower we have, I think we can beat anybody.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, you guys got the 49ers next week. And, I mean, they've been rolling, man. They've been rolling. They had a tough one last week.

[Jason Kelce]

But, dude, how good is Seattle?

[Travis Kelce]

That was a crazy game, dude. Seattle weather game, too.

[Jason Kelce]

Seattle's so long and fast, and those windows just. They're smaller and they close and they're active, man.

[Travis Kelce]

Active.

[Jason Kelce]

I came away from that game more impressed with Seattle than I was like, oh, San Fran ain't very good. San Fran's still legit. I just think the Seattle defense is freaking, man. Do they got some dudes over there?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. When. With everything that's happened with the 49ers, man, Kyle Shanahan, man, it's one of the best seasons. Tip of the cap. He just keeps finding ways to fucking win. And shout out to the guys that, you know, haven't got gotten injured, that are fighting through and finding ways.

[Jason Kelce]

Shout out to John lynch for building a deep roster, you know what I mean? Like to be able to weather all this stuff, you know, if they don't go out and get Mac Jones this offseason, they probably. They don't. What happens in those eight games that Brock pretty misses?

[Travis Kelce]

Who knows, man? All right, let's get into the rest of week 18. Good luck to those Birds playing the Niners next week. Man, I'm be glued to the TV on Sunday when they. When they play. But the rest of the Week 18 games. Seahawks got the number one seed by beating the Niners. We just talked about that. The NFC south had three teams finished 8 and 9. Panthers move on due to the tiebreakers with the 8, 9 Panthers hosting the 12 and 5 Rams is a crazy, insane thing to think about. I think I remember some. Some coaches coming out and saying, hey, if the record's better, we deserve the. The home game. But, yeah, I kind of think that that would.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm all in on the divisions.

[Travis Kelce]

You win the division, you get. You get the home game. I think you don't win your division.

[Jason Kelce]

You don't get a home game. I don't care what your record is.

[Travis Kelce]

And now the Rams have to go all the way to Carolina. Take that four hour Five. Yeah. Four and a half hour, five hour trip to play a football game.

[Jason Kelce]

Carolina kind of like smalls their way into the playoffs. Like, like Rodrigo just kind of like Rodriguez. Benny the jet just sent him out to center field and they just held up their glove like this. We're in the playoffs. Holy shit.

[Travis Kelce]

Okay, we're doing this. All right. That's hilarious.

[Jason Kelce]

Steelers pulled it off against the Ravens. Another fucking. Just. Dude, it was actually, it was an awesome end of the game.

[Travis Kelce]

Lamar versus Rogers was, was a hell of a fucking battle.

[Jason Kelce]

Lamar and Rodgers, especially in the fourth quarter, were freaking on fire. Like every time you thought one of them outdid the other one, the other one answered and it came down to the wire. Lamar got them in position, but yeah, you missed the kick. I mean, it's unfortunate, right?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, it's. It's very unfortunate. And actually Mike Tomlin had another Mike Tomlin quote about how unfortunate it is and just how, you know, sometimes the ball just doesn't go your way. You know, he says I in quote. You know how it is missing a field goat. If my aunt had male parts, she'd be my uncle.

[Jason Kelce]

I wish you would have just said. Just say the whole thing, Mike. I don't need you to sugarcoat it or censor it. Yeah, if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. That's what, that's what the saying is. It doesn't hit the saying with the mailbox, but it is a great one.

[Travis Kelce]

It's a banger. And we got the playoff picture. We were just talking about the Eagles playing in San Fran. Host in San Fran. That is being the number three seed. Rams going to Carolina. Green Bay at Chicago. The Bears hosting a playoff game at Soldier Field. That's epic. Steelers hosting the Texans with the 4 and 5 matchup. Buffalo has got to go down to Duvall. How about it, man? Those guys are rocking, but you can never count out Josh Allen and then you got a fun one. Man, two awesome quarterbacks. Love watching both these guys play with Justin Herbert versus Drake May and they'll be up there in, in New England playing. Man. Which one's your favorite game?

[Jason Kelce]

Well, the game I'm most excited about is Philly versus Sam Fran. I do think that's, that's one of the more exciting games in the first round.

[Travis Kelce]

There's a little bit of an NFC playoff like rivalry between you guys, for sure.

[Jason Kelce]

No doubt. We've had a lot of meaningful games, really, over the last five, six years.

[Travis Kelce]

Hell yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Because we've both been really Good. I'm looking forward to all though. That's why the playoffs are so good. I'll be honest, I still wish it was six teams. I don't like that there's seven teams. I don't like that there's only one buy. I think it should be the old structure but it's still the NFL playoffs. It's still the best thing around. I still love it. I'm looking forward to most of these games. I think the ones that I'm probably San Fran, Philadelphia, they're probably Jacksonville, Buffalo. The two, six, three games are probably the most exciting ones. What do you think? What are the games you're most excited about?

[Travis Kelce]

I mean the one I just talked about up in New England. I think that's going to be fun as hell to watch. Buffalo, Jacksonville game. I'm pretty jacked for. Yeah, I'm interested to see who comes out on top on that one.

[Jason Kelce]

Do we have a most likely upset? Who do you think is going to lose? That's favorite. I mean either of the four seeds which. That's not an upset though. Are we going upset by seed or upset by seed?

[Travis Kelce]

Seed.

[Jason Kelce]

Well then the obvious answer is like LA is going to beat the piss out of fucking Carolina right until that.

[Travis Kelce]

That ball just finds the man sometimes.

[Jason Kelce]

When you got that Angels in the outfield. Luck to you.

[Travis Kelce]

You know you got the juice. You got the juice, man. I don't know what to tell you.

[Jason Kelce]

I think the other one is obviously Houston versus Pittsburgh. Houston's defense is insane.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, that's that. That's the one. I was going to say Buffalo is Buffalo out. I could see him winning.

[Jason Kelce]

Jacksonville's really good, right?

[Travis Kelce]

They got a lot of fun. They're a lot of fun right now.

[Jason Kelce]

The one I feel the most confident about is definitely la. What team is the most hot going into playoffs?

[Travis Kelce]

It's got to be Jacksonville. They fucking won their last like seven games or something.

[Jason Kelce]

Jacksonville has finished the regular season hot. That's why that game right now I'm very much looking forward to watching which quarterback will get their first playoff win. I think May will.

[Travis Kelce]

I mean it's between him and Herbert Legacy.

[Jason Kelce]

I think Darnold. I mean dude, it's hard to bet against Seattle right now. They looked unbelievable against San Fran. That D and that. I mean Darnold looks great too. But that defense is really the one thing that's like whoa. Seattle's defense is kind of built like a modern day NBA team athletes. Their nickel is like 6:3, bro.

[Travis Kelce]

He is active too.

[Jason Kelce]

They were Plays kind of open for San Fran, but by the time the ball got there, that distance was just closed. They move so fast. They have range. That's right. They remind me of an NBA, modern NBA team because they're all long, they can cover ground. And I feel like right now everybody's playing this like, kind of conservative zone, like get back into your hooks. And the way teams are trying to combat that is the short stuff, but then they just break. They break on that stuff so quickly that even when you throw it short, they're on you right now and you don't get much out of it. So they tackle well. It's a very impressive defense. So I don't know if I'm rolling with one I'm going to make.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go.

[Jason Kelce]

Do you have a Super bowl dark horse?

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, it's got to be kind of Jacksonville, right? I just feel like that's. That's the one that's got the energy and has the. Has the momentum right now. And I mean, even though they're a three seed, which their record shows that they're one of the top teams in the league, it's. It's kind of like they. It's unproven yet. You know, you got to see Trevor go out there and really run the table, man. And I think that's probably my dark horse, if there is a dark horse.

[Jason Kelce]

It does feel like the Rams are getting a lot of attention. The Eagles are obviously the defending champions. Seattle, everyone is talking about now, but on the AFC side, everyone's talking about Josh Allen. It's his time. Like Drake May, mvp. Almost nobody really is talking that much about Jack. Like, they're the darkest one, but they've actually been playing the most consistent. Probably. I'm kind of with you on this. I don't think they're gonna win, but they are the dark horse.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, we've got a great slate of games this weekend and you can't forget that. That, that prime video game. That's right. Green Bay packers are playing the Chicago Bears over at Soldier Stadium.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

God, I remember a playoff game over at Soldier Stadium ended at double doink. It's always electric. And there's going to be electric game this Saturday, January 10th at 7:30pm Only on Prime Video.

[Jason Kelce]

Hey.

[Travis Kelce]

All right. Well, that wraps up bold topics brought to you by kfc. Hey, yo, let's wrap up some football talk with the Stamps of the week. Stamps of the week is brought to you by HBO Max. Check out The Pit Season 2 premiering tomorrow at 9 Eastern.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, this is the easiest pick for me. I'm going. Miles Garrett broke the sack record. I mean, anytime somebody breaks a freaking all time season record of sacks, rushing yards, anything like that, they're going to get the stamp of the week. I don't know how you don't give them the stamp of the week. And he did it. Second, Joe Burrow. Did Joe take a dive? Are we, do we have another. Do we have another gas to know? Let's take a look at this. Did Joe take it out? Joe doesn't strike me as a diving kind of guy.

[Travis Kelce]

No, he's a comparison.

[Jason Kelce]

That's a sack. That's a sack record. His NFL record, 23rd sack of the year. Yeah, he didn't fight it, but that's a sack. That's a sack. We'll count it, we'll count it, we'll count it.

[Travis Kelce]

Shout out to Miles Garrett, man. Absolute legend. Deserves all the praise he's getting. And congrats on getting 23 sacks. It's crazy, man. Strahan was commenting on it, says, you know, he's got the record in 17 games. I got the record in 16 games.

[Jason Kelce]

He was doing. He kind of was joking around a bit about it.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, you already know he's having fun with it. He shows, he shows Miles all the, all the respect as well, man. But for sure, I'm going to go. I'm going to go hit home with it, baby. Cleveland Heights own Layla Edwards is heading to the Olympics. That's right. Becomes the first black woman to play for the U.S. women's National Team.

[Jason Kelce]

Hell yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

At the Olympic Games. She's going to be out there, Milan, supporting or representing the US Of A. And even cooler, our hometown, Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

[Jason Kelce]

Congratulations to Layla Edwards. That wraps up Stamp of the Week brought to you by HBO Max and The Pit Season 2, premiering tomorrow night on HBO Max.

[Travis Kelce]

Now let's get to some Matt Damon. Jason, can you do the honors, please?

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

Both season is over for college football, but new bowl season is beginning. That's way better. Oh yeah, it's KFC five dollar bowl season.

[Jason Kelce]

That's right. They're serving up five different bowls for five bucks each. You get a famous bowl with those fluffy mashed potatoes and juicy chicken. Or you can try their spicy Mac and cheese bowl.

[Travis Kelce]

Creamy Mac and cheese with a kick.

[Jason Kelce]

Come on now, people think $5 means you're getting some tiny portion. Nuh. These bowls are loaded.

[Travis Kelce]

Right? Like we're talking zero leftovers. You're finishing this whole thing.

[Jason Kelce]

Five different ways to fill it up. All five bucks. It's math. That's how it works. That's the kind of value we need after the holidays, right? We just spent a bunch of money on presents and gifts that our kids have already forgotten about.

[Travis Kelce]

Five bowls, five dollars, zero leftovers.

[Jason Kelce]

Try KFC five dollar bowls today. Actually right now. Don't even wait till later today. Go to your KFC now.

[Travis Kelce]

We are so lucky, brother. We're gonna do our best with this one.

[Matt Damon]

I'm fired up to be here. I've been. I actually like for some reason that my Instagram thinks that you the only thing I ever want to watch. I've Seen so much of your stuff just recommended to me.

[Travis Kelce]

So this is cool.

[Jason Kelce]

Our guest today is an actor, writer and producer from Cambridge, Massachusetts. He is a two time Golden Globe winner, three times critic choice winner, and an Academy award winner. He is also the 2007 People's Sexiest man alive. You know, from Goodwill, Hunting, the Martian, the oceans franchises, the Talented Mr. Ripley, the Bourne franchises, Saving Private Ryan, the Departed, foreign and first for Yard Oppenheimer. Gosh dang, I was running out of movies. Here we go. And his new movie the Rip is on Netflix starting January 16th. 92 percenters, please welcome. Well, how about this? How about them apples? It's Matt Damon. Let's go. Thank you guys.

[Matt Damon]

That was awesome.

[Travis Kelce]

Jason.

[Matt Damon]

Thank you. I feel like I should run out of the locker room and go hit somebody.

[Jason Kelce]

Let's go. That's, that's all we're good at.

[Travis Kelce]

Either doing that ourselves or motivating people to do it. It's all we know. Dude. You're absolute iconic brother and, and we can't thank you enough for, for spending some time. The rip is unbelievable, man.

[Jason Kelce]

It is, it is.

[Matt Damon]

Thank you guys. I'm fired up. You guys are the first people to see it. So this is, that's great news. That's great for me to hear. Yeah, we've, we haven't shown many people at all. It hasn't come out yet. So. And this is the first interview I'm doing for, for it. So this is very, very cool.

[Travis Kelce]

I live a dumb life, man. Dude, this movie, this movie is ridiculous, man. It had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. And it's, it's based off of. A lot of the facts are based off a true story.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It starts with a true story and then we take dramatic license from there. But, but you know, there are these, this, this program in Miami where, where you know, they take tips to go get money that's kind of. They seize money that's got from by like ill gotten gains, you know, like drug money and stuff like that. And so they'll hit these houses. They have dogs that, that don't smell for drugs, they just smell for money. And they have these teams that go seize, seize this stuff. And, and one of the rules down there is you got to count it on site, you know, just to make sure that none of it ends up in anybody's pocket and that everybody's on the up and up. And so they count it and they're very, very serious about it. And, and, and there was one of These ones that they went on where they were expecting to find a couple hundred grand, and there was over $20 million in the walls of this house. So that's kind of where our movie is about that. Like, it's about this team of people, but you already know their rumblings that there might be some corruption or there might be some bad apples who are working with people outside. And then they go in, they find this $20 million, and they know it's cartel money, so they're like, oh, my God, they're going to come back for it. And so it turns into that kind of, you know, like a thriller where they're, where they're, where they're. They know they got to. They got to stay on site, but they know that the site is kind of compromised.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, absolutely. When do you first get pissed about this? Or is this. Are you at the point now that this is your baby? Like, how did you get involved with this?

[Matt Damon]

So Ben and I have a studio, like now, Artists Equity. And, and so we're small, but we. But we're kind of a full service studio. And so people are starting to become aware of that and coming to us with projects. And this came to us through Joe Conahan, who. He directed Narc a long time ago, a movie, the Gray. He direct. He's directed a bunch of movies. Yeah, Ben did Smoke and Aces with him, actually, about 15 or 20 years ago. So we've known Joe for a really long time, and he just sent this over to us and we read it and we were like, this is great. We'd love to make it. And then as we kind of were working on it with Joe, we were kind of like, well, why don't we just all do it together?

[Jason Kelce]

There we go.

[Matt Damon]

We're all old friends. And we were like, this would be really fun. And, and, and, and so that. That's kind of how. How this one came to pass.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, it's fantastic. And the way it all comes together at the end and the armored vehicle.

[Travis Kelce]

And like, you guys, that is like cinema, dude. It's so fucking cool, man.

[Jason Kelce]

You gotta say you. In the movie, you convince Ben to go after a large sum of money. Well, you guys think it's a smaller sum of money, it ends up being larger. What's the dumbest thing, as lifelong friends, you've convinced Ben to do in your friendship?

[Matt Damon]

Oh, my God. God, that's a great question. God, our whole life is a stupid week. We were like 14 and 16 years old, and we were going to New York auditioning Taking the bus and going down there. Literally the journey would take us seven hours to get there. We'd walk in and we called it getting. Okay, thanks. Because you'd do an audition, you do the best you could, and the person would just go, okay, thanks. And five minutes, you're out the door and you're back on the bus going. Like, I don't think that went too well, you know. So our whole life has been. I mean, if you. The odds of it working out were so long against and working out for both of us. Like, I. I don't. I mean, God, we've done so much stupid shit in our lives, but the whole idea was kind of dumb to begin with.

[Travis Kelce]

I think that's.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, I mean, it's amazing, really. At what point did you guys realize that, like, what was your first big break that you knew we were going to be able to do this?

[Matt Damon]

Well, it's tough to say big break because I think we thought every break, like the first, like, we got a TJ Max commercial and we were like, this is it, man. And then, you know, and then we started to get little parts. Then we started to get bigger parts. But we were getting told by casting directors and stuff, we'd go in and read and they'd go, you're not right for this, but you should keep going. So we were getting kind of signals that, that, that we were in the right, you know, area code. But then, like, when we sold Goodwill Hunting, when we sold the screenplay that we, we thought that was absolutely it and we were like broke a year later, you know.

[Jason Kelce]

Really? Yeah. After that.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, we, we. I mean, not broke broke. I mean, but like. Here, I'll put. I mean, I guess. So we sold the screenplay for 600 grand, right. Which was just so much more money than either of us had ever considered. It was like. Which we split, right? And then. But after taxes and agent lawyer and all that stuff.

[Jason Kelce]

I get it.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

So now, now we're down under 150 each. And the first thing we did was buy brand new Jeep Grand Cherokees.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Damon]

Now we had. And we were renting this place in la. You know, like, we, you know, it didn't take long for us to be like, dude, we, we got to get another job.

[Jason Kelce]

You know, we can't just survive on that. Let me ask, just for reference, do you know what Goodwill Hunting has grossed in its, like, time?

[Matt Damon]

When it came out, I think it was like 220something in the theater, but I have no idea what it did after that. Like, they because they relicense it and.

[Jason Kelce]

They, you know, that's one of them that's just continued. Because it's just such an amazing film, actually, with our.

[Matt Damon]

With our studio, you know, that's one of the things where we really fight for is reversion rights. Like, Ben called me a couple years ago and he goes, you know, the town just got relicensed for 35 million bucks because. Which just means that he made a great movie and people are still watching it. And he, you know, he, at the time, like, that movie made a fortune. It made. It did all this stuff, but he. He was on a flat salary and he didn't, you know, I don't even think he made a million bucks for that movie. And he wrote it, directed it start, you know, starred in it.

[Jason Kelce]

Crazy.

[Matt Damon]

One of those things. So. But it's like, you know, our view was like, look, if. If you do something like that as. As one of the real contributors to it, then like, if there's money kind of in perpetuity, then you should. You should be a part of that. So.

[Travis Kelce]

Hell yeah. I mean, it sounds. Right.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

Yes, sounds fair.

[Travis Kelce]

Seriously, though, speaking of movies you guys have been in, when was the first movie you guys worked on together? Was it. Was it Field of Dreams?

[Matt Damon]

We. There were. Yeah, we were extras in Field of Dreams. That was. That was one. But I think even before that, there was a movie that Diane Keaton and Liam Neeson starred in that. A little movie called the Good Mother. And that shot in Boston. And Ben and I and Casey, his little brother, we were all extras in that. And I think there's still a shot in that movie of Liam Neeson walking past us. Ben and I, I don't think, have hit puberty yet. We're like 5:1, and Liam's a big dude. He's like 6, 5, 6, 6. And then we walk past him on. On. On a street at one point. So that might have been the first moment we were. We were actually on screen together.

[Travis Kelce]

We gotta find that one.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where it is. I just remember going to the movie and Ben and I were like, we're in it.

[Jason Kelce]

We're in it.

[Matt Damon]

We made it.

[Travis Kelce]

That's so good.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, while we're talking movies, you're in something else that's coming up too. We got the rip coming up, but we also have the Odyssey.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Is that. Is that correct?

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. July.

[Jason Kelce]

Are you Odysseus? Who? Are you in the Odyssey?

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, I'M Odysseus. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

There we go. All right, all right.

[Matt Damon]

I had a beard like yours for.

[Jason Kelce]

For like, I think I've seen the pictures. You were getting pretty yoked up in some of the pictures I saw too, circulating the Internet.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, I was in really good shape. I lost a lot of weight. Like he said he, he wanted me like lean but strong. Lean but, yeah, lean but strong. And so I, like, it's a weird thing. I, I, I don't want to bore the out of you, but like I.

[Jason Kelce]

None of this is boring at all.

[Matt Damon]

Literally. Like stopped eating just because of this other thing I did with my doctor. Stopped eating gluten. I lost like I used to walk around it between 185 and 200.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

And, and, and I did that whole movie at 167.

[Jason Kelce]

Holy cow.

[Matt Damon]

And I haven't been that light since high school. Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a lot of training and really strict diet, I was gonna say.

[Travis Kelce]

So when you get, you get asked by the director or, or whoever asked you to, to be at that size and, and strength and that lean built, do you then like go out and source a trainer that, that gets you to that point or do you already have somebody in mind?

[Matt Damon]

No, I had somebody, but it's just, are like what are we doing? And they can kind of do anything, you know, and it's just knowing it's just having kind of a clear goal and, and, and setting it, it felt actually more, it's like when I do that or when I Did you do like the Jason Bourne movies or whatever, it feels almost like, like a season in a, in a. I would imagine what that feels like for you guys where you're preparing. You, you know, it's like just part of your day. It's part of your job. Right. And it's like. Yeah. And you get really routinized about it and really. And kind of build your day around all that stuff and, and yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's kind of the physical side of, of getting ready.

[Travis Kelce]

Have you had gluten since?

[Matt Damon]

I haven't.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm staying strong.

[Matt Damon]

I'm done. I'm gluten free. Everything. I found a gluten free beer.

[Jason Kelce]

Nice.

[Travis Kelce]

There we go. How about it?

[Jason Kelce]

All right.

[Matt Damon]

It's been so long since I've had gluten. I can't tell if it's good or not. So that's, that's, that's a good sign.

[Jason Kelce]

It's working. It's working. Well, the trailer for the odyssey got over 121.4 million views in the first 24 hours, more than double Oppenheimer got, which was pretty successful. What. What do you think has so many people psyched up about this film?

[Travis Kelce]

Wow.

[Matt Damon]

Well, I think for. I mean, obviously Chris, you know. You know, Chris Nolan. You know, I think everybody feels. I mean, I. I'm a fan, too. I just love the movies that he makes. And. And. And also, you know, just the way, you know, the way he insists on shooting them, you know, and this one was 100 on IMAX. It was the first movie that was ever done all on imax.

[Jason Kelce]

Okay.

[Matt Damon]

Like, IMAX cameras are really loud. Like, it sounds like a blender. Like a Cuisinart in your face when this camera's close.

[Jason Kelce]

Really?

[Matt Damon]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Okay.

[Matt Damon]

And that's why. So there's never been these dialogues. Like, we couldn't have this conversation with a normal IMAX camera because you. You wouldn't be able to hear us. Yeah, but they built this giant thing around the IMAX for those dialogue scenes and. And, like, a system of mirrors so you could look at, you know, so your eyeline would be close to the camera and you could talk to the other actor. And, like. Like, the amount of work that went into figuring out how to do, because he wanted to do it 100% IMAX.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, this is.

[Matt Damon]

And he did it. So it's, like, really ambitious kind of ideas that he has. And, like, on the technical side, and then just there were locations that we went that we shot in where I. We would get there, and I just start laughing. I'd be like, nobody has any business shooting here. Like. But, like, of course he wants to shoot here. Yeah, that makes. That tracks, you know, but we do. He has such a great crew. Like, his crew is so badass. And. And everybody just maxed out on that movie. And. And, you know, and we made all of our days. We actually finished ahead of schedule. Like, we. It was just a. It was an awesome experience.

[Jason Kelce]

That's awesome. Hell, yeah.

[Matt Damon]

I haven't seen it yet. You know, I mean, I've seen the trailer like you have, but that's about it.

[Jason Kelce]

Is that the way. So how. How far before the theatrical release do you guys get to watch it? Like, is there. Or do you try and, like, wait until that moment?

[Matt Damon]

No, it depends. There are some. A lot of directors, you know, if I'm doing a movie with Ben, I'm in the editing room with him the whole time. And. And there are some directors who, you know, who. Who like, to work that way. Chris has a process that's very, you know, he's. He's. He's screening the movie all the time to. To people outside the business. He's trying. He's very. He's grinding away at it. And so I'll see it probably in. In a couple months, you know, before it's done. I mean, Clint Eastwood, like, I remember Clint Eastwood showed me. I did two movies with Clint, and that was just. He. He screened it for me like, a week before the premiere. But, like, it wasn't like he was going to take notes.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

He's like, I hope you like it. You know, and so people have all different ways of working, and. And it's a director's medium, really. Right. Like, they really are the boss and. And, you know, but it can feel. It's. It.

[Jason Kelce]

Or.

[Matt Damon]

I look at it like a partnership, but you're the. I'm the junior partner. Right. So I want to give every good idea that I want to. I want to be as helpful as possible, but at the end of the day, it's. It's their name on the movie. It really is there. You know, they're the ones who are really kind of ruthlessly judged. I mean, I know actors are, too, but. But in. In our world, it's really about the director.

[Travis Kelce]

That's awesome, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, man. All right, well, do you want to get into some Boston sports maybe?

[Travis Kelce]

Let's do it, baby.

[Jason Kelce]

All right.

[Matt Damon]

What do you think about that? I. I'm. I. I'm a little nervous about this. The Chargers, I mean, they're, you know.

[Travis Kelce]

I, you know, players over there, man.

[Jason Kelce]

They.

[Travis Kelce]

Ball players.

[Matt Damon]

They really do. They got some really great players, but so do we. And. And I love. I love Vrabel, man. Oh, my God, I love that.

[Jason Kelce]

Got a good one. You guys got a good one.

[Matt Damon]

Unbelievable. I can't.

[Travis Kelce]

This will be the battle of the minds between him and Harbaugh, man. Yeah, it really will, man. Both of those guys. I got so much respect for both of those guys. And obviously. Did you. Have you. You. You ran into Braves before?

[Matt Damon]

No, I've never met him. I've never met him.

[Jason Kelce]

I've.

[Matt Damon]

I've.

[Travis Kelce]

Legend, dude.

[Matt Damon]

I've blown my voice out cheering for him, like, over the years, but I've never met him. And, you know, he just seems awesome. Like, although. And the way he deals, it's like he took all of the best of Belichick and he's putting it through the filter of himself. And. And it's like, you know, Everybody love, everybody loves the guy. And, and Drake May is unbelievable. You know, he's just, he seems, he seems to have that Tom thing where he just doesn't get rattled.

[Travis Kelce]

He's got this ability to kind of feel comfor comfortable and almost Tom. Tom was unbelievable at dictating the tempo of a game. Like it. Every game that I felt like I, I played against him, it just felt like he always had like we were going at his pace.

[Jason Kelce]

Right.

[Travis Kelce]

And, and Drake kind of has that, that feel to him, especially when he's clicking, you know.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, yeah. And he's what, 23, you know, so he's just, just gonna get better. So. I mean, I can't believe we got this lucky in New England to have.

[Jason Kelce]

Three year playoff drought and all of a sudden you got another franchise quarterback.

[Matt Damon]

It's nuts. I feel terrible. It's like people in Green Bay where they go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and you're like, come on, when does that happen? But, but no, it's, it, it's, it's, it's unbelievable. And, and given that my whole childhood we sucked so bad. Like the Patriots were just.

[Jason Kelce]

Dude.

[Travis Kelce]

I mean that was our childhood. We grew up, we grew up in Cleveland. Cleveland. So.

[Matt Damon]

Oh, right. Yeah, right.

[Jason Kelce]

They still, they're still not doing very good.

[Matt Damon]

But they got some great players over there though.

[Jason Kelce]

They do.

[Matt Damon]

How about Miles Garrett? Man? Unbelievable.

[Jason Kelce]

Heck of a year. Heck of a year.

[Travis Kelce]

That's the last guy I'm trying to block.

[Jason Kelce]

I'll tell you what. He's the phys physically probably the most gifted football player I've ever played football against. He's really. Oh my gosh, Matt, when you line.

[Travis Kelce]

Up against him, it feels like you're going up against a Power Ranger. Like some like unearthly like yeah. Mighty morphin. Like dude, I'm just like, I get in front of him just like, man, this guy knows that the coach is not about to put me in a position to block this dude.

[Jason Kelce]

Please coach.

[Matt Damon]

That's amazing. How about Aaron Donald? He was the other one, right?

[Travis Kelce]

That, that's the one Jason got a.

[Jason Kelce]

Got a good taste of. Aaron was the hardest guy I had to block. I didn't really ever have to block Miles like that. And even Aaron, luckily we were double teamed him most of the time so I didn't have to block him one on one. But Aaron just didn't have. He had his own physical traits which were very good. Like he was incredibly strong and explosive. Miles has all that. But then he also has the length just Savvy, bigger size person. Yeah, it's.

[Matt Damon]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

It's kind of crazy when you think about both of those guys playing at the same time. They were the two most gifted defensive players I played against, for sure. And I think another thing that it feels like Miles has done better with this year, Aaron also had this mentality where he just was relentless. He. No matter what you did, he would not stop. He kept going.

[Travis Kelce]

He ever got tired, he was, he.

[Jason Kelce]

Was, like, mad at you the entire time. Like, what are you mad at me about?

[Matt Damon]

I didn't do anything.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm just trying to do my job, dude. But he was, like, pissed if you. And it feels like Miles feels like he was more of that this year. Like, there was a relentlessness to Miles that I think you felt all season long from him. And with those traits and that mentality, he saw an incredible season from him for sure. But I do want to ask you this. How do you think the Patriots will do in the playoffs? Is it like in New England? Is it. Are you guys so spoiled that it's like, if they don't win the super bowl, you guys are going to be upset?

[Matt Damon]

No.

[Jason Kelce]

Or is this like. Okay, all right, go ahead.

[Matt Damon]

Not at all. I mean, this is a new. This is a new team, right? And I think, I think this is, like, found money for us, right? Like, I feel like it's, it's like.

[Jason Kelce]

Quarterback. Yeah. $20 million quarterback sitting in the wall.

[Matt Damon]

He broke in, took the sledgehammer, and there was Drake May. Yeah. No. And I, I, I feel, I don't know, personal. I can't speak for everybody in New England, but look, if we get bounced in the first round, I still think this is a massive year for us, right? It's like. Okay, so, like, the future is really bright for us with the coach that we have with that, with the, with the organization, like, with, with, with Bob Crap, with the way that whole thing is set up and with that quarterback and those. I mean, I feel like we're in a really good spot. Obviously, we want to see him go as far as they can, but nobody's going to be like, you know, oh, this is. If they don't. If they don't. You know, I mean, it's like nobody was expecting them to be there. I mean, we were expecting to kind of run into this Buffalo wall for years, right? And that wall's still there, by the way. That team will be. That team's still very.

[Jason Kelce]

Josh isn't going anywhere.

[Matt Damon]

He's unbelievable. And so it's fun. It'll be competitive. I was talking to a buddy of mine who was like, like, this year has been so much fun because there are, like, 10 teams who could win the super bowl. And you'd be like, I'm not surprised.

[Travis Kelce]

You know, it really is, man.

[Matt Damon]

It's so fun, for sure.

[Travis Kelce]

You know, it's so wide open when.

[Matt Damon]

You had those, like, New England dynasties or Kansas City dynasties. It's not fun for anybody else. It's only fun for us.

[Jason Kelce]

Well done. Well done with that. I do. Every time I. I thought the whole year, like, the Patriots, it feels like they're a few pieces away. Like, I'm like, ah, they don't really have this the kind of level of talent you think they need, but they just. Every week, they find a way to win. And I'm with you. This. The more I watch Drake May, the more I'm just, like, so impressed with his tempo. He makes everything look easy. Like, when he's back there and he.

[Travis Kelce]

Throws the ball, it's the simplest decision he had to make.

[Jason Kelce]

Right.

[Travis Kelce]

It's like. It's like, why is this game so easy to.

[Matt Damon]

It feels. It's like, inevitable. It's like, oh, obviously that was going to happen, you know? Yeah, it's. It's. It shouldn't be that. It shouldn't look that easy.

[Jason Kelce]

No.

[Travis Kelce]

Well, speaking of Patriot quarterbacks, Ben, obviously friend of the show, he was on here talking about the greatest moment of his life, other than the birth of his children, was running routes with Breed.

[Matt Damon]

I can't believe you got to do that, dude. I can't believe he got to do that.

[Travis Kelce]

And the way he told the story was.

[Matt Damon]

I mean, I got mad. I was like, you're going to up his timing. You're so slow. Like, don't play catch with Brady unless you're just standing still. Like, don't do that. But, yeah, no, I can't. I'm jealous he got to do that.

[Travis Kelce]

I was gonna say, what's your. What's your best or your favorite Boston sports moment?

[Matt Damon]

Well, mine's super personal because I. Because I. The. My best Boston sports moment actually was. Was in 1999 at the Celebrity. At the All Star Game. I did the hitting challenge thing. But then that night, they let us onto the field to take batting practice at midnight. And I. And my dad was a pitcher. He was a left pitcher. And. And he. And we were taking batting practice. He was trying to get. He wanted me to hit the ball. He wasn't trying to strike me out, but I hit one off the green monster off my dad, which was like, literally, it happened. And we both looked at each other, and I was like, I'll never need therapy in my life.

[Travis Kelce]

I'll just go back to this moment.

[Jason Kelce]

That's it.

[Matt Damon]

We're good.

[Travis Kelce]

That's so cool.

[Matt Damon]

But in terms of the great teams, like, I, like, there are so many, you know, so many unbelievable moments. And. Yeah, and Brady gave us. Oh, my God. Him alone. That guy just gave us 20 years of him. So we, we're, we're, you know, we don't deserve Drake May. We'll take them.

[Travis Kelce]

That's so iconic, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Have you ever gotten any working with Brady? Have you met Tom?

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know him. I, I, I've, I met him a bunch over the years, and like, yeah, he's, he, he just. I don't know. To me, for you guys, because you, you guys excel at that championship level. And to me, it always strikes me across anything that you do, it's always the people who do the extra work, the extra thing. Like, I remember the year after we went, New England went 18 and 1, and we lost to the Giants in the super bowl. And I had dinner with Tom and a bunch of guys, and, you know, they, they brought a bottle of red wine around, and everyone's getting a glass of red wine. And Tom's like, no. And I looked at him, I was like, really? I'm like, it's May. Like, your camp starts in, like, two months. And he was like, no. Like, he was just, like, he was in that, like, I'm, I'm. My life. I'm gonna live my commitment to this thing. You know what I mean? And he just had that insane discipline. And, And I took my nephew to a game once down in Miami. We were living down there, and my nephew played football. It was played, you know, in the, in the Little Pembroke Pines League down in Miami. And I was like, tom, I'm bringing my nephew. And he was nine at the time, and, and we get to the, you know, we're, we're down on the field, everybody's warming up, and he's like, am I gonna get to meet Tom? And I'm like, probably not now. Maybe after the game. Like, look, he's. He's about to go to work. You know, Troy, this is a real, you know, he's working right now. This is serious. Sure enough, Tom comes running over. He's, like, already sweating. He's just warmed up. My nephew's sitting on the, on the bench, and he's, He's Sitting at the end of the bench. And Tom runs up to him and gets in his face and he's like, you gonna root for me today, Troy? Looking up at him and he just can't talk. And he just nods, he just nods. And Tom goes, Tom goes. Gets in his face. They're both nine years old. And goes, we're gonna kill these guys.

[Jason Kelce]

Dude. He's iconic, dude.

[Matt Damon]

He couldn't have meant it more either. It was unbelievable. And then he runs off to locker. I was like, that was the greatest thing I've ever seen. But it was like 29 year olds talking to each other.

[Travis Kelce]

Hell yeah, we're gonna smoke.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah. Literally. I mean, there might have been an F bomb in there for sure.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Gotta make sure he feels it. You gotta make sure.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

He's gotta know.

[Travis Kelce]

How do you rank your Boston sports fandoms? The by the sport. Sox, pats, Celtics, Bruins.

[Matt Damon]

That's tough. I would definitely say Red Sox kind of for. For me growing up, that was the thing. Like that was the. Definitely the top and the sport I played the most. And then basketball, I played a lot too, so. So if you, you know, if you had asked me when I was growing up, I would have said baseball, basketball, football, hockey. But when I look at I just. Because I guess braid everybody. We just bought into that. Like, everybody got so caught up in like.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, you get wrapped in it.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, we got said. If I actually think of what I spent more time watching like the last 20 years, probably football. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Not including football. Who's your favorite Boston sports athlete? Like, who. Who's your guy from growing up that you're like, that's my, like Travis's is Carlos Byerga from the Cleveland Indians.

[Travis Kelce]

Shout out to Carlos, man.

[Matt Damon]

I got Carlton Fisk. He was, he was.

[Travis Kelce]

Let's go.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah. Yeah. It was a big part of like we wrote the whole scene in Goodwill hunting about him and, and there's a whole kind of reference to him in that movie. And there was a whole team, you know, in 77, 78. Those guys, like, I, you know, I used to go through, you know, we have batting practice and I go through all their stances from each side of the. Like, I just knew, you know, that those are my guys.

[Travis Kelce]

All of it, man. Go to the game. Get the, get the program. Start to keep score in the back, man.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, it's just the best.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, let me ask you this. Where's. You mentioned the Green Monster? I. I was fortunate to like go get a tour at that ballpark when I was Visiting Boston in high school for some reason. What. Where's the best place to sit in that stadium? Like, it's such an. It's like that and Wrigley Field are like the two baseball stadiums are the most iconic. What's the best seat in the stadium? You think?

[Matt Damon]

There are a lot of them actually depending on. I mean, now, like what the. What they've done now by putting seats up on the Green Monster. Like. Yeah, that's insane up there. I went to. I sat in the kind of the last box next to those seats a couple years ago when I went up and. And, and that was. That was absolutely crazy.

[Travis Kelce]

I was fortunate enough. I went to. When they were doing the. The one game wild card playoff scenarios. Boston actually played the Yankees in. At. At Fenway. I was there and they. They won one nothing. I was actually sitting up on the Green Monster. No way. I sat on the Green Monster and literally saw a line drive come probably 10ft from or 10 yards from me. It's it. And when it hit that Monster, dude.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, yeah. Boom.

[Travis Kelce]

And everybody's going nuts, dude. It was that. Boston's unbelievable sports town, man.

[Matt Damon]

Did they leave you alone up there on the Monster?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, it wasn't too bad. Some of. Some of the Air Force had some fun with me, but yeah, it was.

[Jason Kelce]

It was all that, dude.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm here for it, man. I'm here for it.

[Matt Damon]

I'm going here, bro.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, exactly. There we go.

[Travis Kelce]

You already know it was epic, dude. I'm here for the chatter anyway. All day, baby. How much do you hate Jason and the Eagles for beating the path in Super Bowl 52?

[Jason Kelce]

Come on.

[Matt Damon]

Well, I. Well, congratulations, Jay. I. I still don't understand why he didn't put Malcolm Butler in the game. I will never understand that.

[Jason Kelce]

It's a fair question.

[Matt Damon]

Like I. Because I think punt that game. I don't know if we. We might have pun.

[Travis Kelce]

It was a high scoring game, Tom.

[Matt Damon]

Tommy threw for like 500,000,000 yards.

[Jason Kelce]

Nobody ever. It was his best performance. Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

It was just unreal and like we just needed to stop you guys. Like. We never stopped you, Jason.

[Travis Kelce]

One of the best Super Bowls ever, man.

[Jason Kelce]

I think we punted once and I think that was the only punt, if I remember correctly.

[Matt Damon]

I wonder. Actually, I'll bet you. I'll tell you what, man. We might have punted if we punted at all. We punted once. Probably that there's. That's probably got to be the record for the least punts in a Super Bowl.

[Jason Kelce]

Well, it was. It was the highest scoring game. And then I think we broke the game that record again when we played Travis in the Super Bowl. I think that was the only other one that got higher scoring or something like that. But Tom's Day, that was his best super bowl of his career.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, the Patriots did that punt. Patriots didn't. Yeah, the punters were. Both punters were having. Having a Coke and some popcorn on the sideline that game.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

It's a fair question.

[Matt Damon]

He never answered it, though, like, so I always wondered about that. Like, what? There was something personal. There was something weird because it's like, why does guy playing 99 of the snaps and then you tell him while the national anthem's playing Caliber man. And then you got to switch everybody around to different positions like that. They haven't played. It's like they're suddenly playing a preseason.

[Travis Kelce]

For the past two weeks.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, just some. It's something weird about it, man. I. I could never figure that out.

[Jason Kelce]

Didn't he. I think he got in trouble for like missing a meeting or something like that, didn't he? There something leading up to it.

[Matt Damon]

But there was. I know.

[Jason Kelce]

I agree. I agree. This is. It's kind of like, tell me, tell.

[Travis Kelce]

Me what I miss.

[Matt Damon]

It's also the things like for me.

[Jason Kelce]

Your way, though, you can't be missing me. Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

But. But then maybe after the first quarter when. When you can't stop their offense, maybe you're like, okay, you learned your lesson. Get in there. Or maybe after the first half. Okay, now I've really, you know, I've proved my point. But like, will you never put the dude in?

[Jason Kelce]

It really is actually, I think, more selfish not to play the best guy because, like, everybody else wants to win.

[Matt Damon]

By the way, the Patriot. The Patriots way is do your job right. The Patriots way is you got 53 guys who gave up absolutely everything. They gave. They sacrificed everything. And you're. And that's your whole thing. And so, like, what does it say if, like, you have an ax to grind with somebody that you're not going to play them? Like, it's just.

[Jason Kelce]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

It's kind of selfish.

[Travis Kelce]

It feels weird. Yeah. It definitely feels like ego.

[Matt Damon]

Ego is the enemy of everything. That's my. That's my. It really is. Like, it's certainly in my line of work, like, if. If you can't just like your allegiance has to be to the best idea. Like, you're all. You're all a lesser part of the thing you're making and you got to put that first and If. If you do that, if everyone does that, it's going to be. Everything's going to work out.

[Jason Kelce]

Have you felt like you've been able to do that your whole career? Or do you get to a point where you've been through that enough where it's like, all right, selfishly, I want to go. And I feel like this is the best thing, but. But in order to. For this to work out the best, we really need to operate together in a different.

[Matt Damon]

No, I never feel like those things are, like, mutually exclusive. I never feel. I always feel like my best interest is aligned with making the thing that we're making as. As good as we can make it. And. And that it requires everybody to have that attitude. And so, like, when I. When I hear stories, I've never. I don't think I've ever been on a set where somebody was really misbehaving or anything like, that was happening. I hear those. So I'm like, missed out justified by those stories.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm like, man, the.

[Matt Damon]

Was that person doing, like. Like, you know what I mean?

[Jason Kelce]

Like, sure.

[Matt Damon]

It's all about, like, just trying to make the thing as good as you can make it. And it's a collaborative project.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, yeah. Be a good teammate, man.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. With a director. Who is the director? It's like a benevolent dictatorship. Like the director, basically.

[Travis Kelce]

51.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Coach Andy. Andy reads the Director. He's getting 51%. This is Travis, Shut up.

[Jason Kelce]

Got it.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, exactly. There you go. But if you really like that guy, right, you know, or woman, if you really like that. That you have, right. Then that's. That's a perfect deal because. Because you're. Because you're never going to be misaligned with them because you kind of see things the same way.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Travis Kelce]

That's cool to hear. It kind of translates into. Into your line of work in your world, too, man.

[Matt Damon]

I think, like, the. The older I get, the more crossover there is kind of in all this stuff about, like, how you approach Stu. Me think about how to talk to my kids about that and, like, whatever they want to do, you know, these. These things will. Will kind of bear bearing across all, you know, all of these different kind of disciplines because. Because they kind of work for everything.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

Hey, is it too. Are you. Are you. Have you announced Trav, if you're going to keep playing? Is there a still. Are you. Is that a big secret at this point? Do you take time at this point, like the.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, I think I'm just going to Take some time. Let it. Let it kind of fizzle out. Let's let everything happen. Get away from the game. First time I've not had a job in January in a long time, so I'm gonna go ahead and enjoy, you know, hanging out with some family and. Yeah. Putting my feet up, watching some football, seeing how this. This crazy, anybody can win it type of season plays out. But, yeah, I'm just trying to figure it all out myself, and I'll do that with the. With the. The family and friends and, you know.

[Matt Damon]

No, yeah, yeah. No, I. It's a big decision. I remember Michael Strahan, years ago, came. Came over and he was thinking about retiring and. And. And we're the same age, and I was like, come on, man, you're. We're in our prime.

[Jason Kelce]

You're.

[Matt Damon]

You know, and, yeah. He was like, look, it. It takes a lot to get ready. You know, there's a lot of work that goes into it. And, you know, he was telling me on that, kept pushing him, kept pushing. Finally he turns to me, he goes, matt, I get in 35 car accidents a week.

[Travis Kelce]

And he's the one doing the.

[Matt Damon]

Well, yeah, so, yeah, he's.

[Travis Kelce]

He's the one.

[Matt Damon]

He's initiating him.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that.

[Matt Damon]

That's a real consideration, like, you know, and. And it's easy to sit at home, enjoy watching you guys play, and be like, why don't they play another season?

[Jason Kelce]

Yes.

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, when. When you get the call, when you're 45, like Philip Rivers, baby.

[Matt Damon]

God, how good was that? You're never out of it for him.

[Travis Kelce]

Everyone loved it, dude. We all wanted him to go and get him into the playoffs or at least put up some dubs. And. Yeah, man, that was epic.

[Jason Kelce]

He did a good job as a great.

[Matt Damon]

I thought he did do a really good job. And as a granddad, man, I was like, unbelievable. Yeah. With his high school team, watching.

[Jason Kelce]

Playing the game was awesome to watch. But then even his comments after the game about just, like, not being afraid and, like, facing, like. I just think it was.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Having that courage. Yeah, man.

[Jason Kelce]

He's such a. Just a. The pinnacle of what a quarterback and, like, a football player is. So it was awesome to see him back out there.

[Matt Damon]

It is also cool to see guys like. Like, you guys get so much better at your job. It's such a weird thing because you guys get better at your job, but your skills, you know, decline as you age. And so mentally.

[Jason Kelce]

Mentally, you keep going this way.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Fortunately, the physical aspects start going down.

[Matt Damon]

But he got out there, he looked like he hadn't missed a beat. Like he, the game was slow for him. He was like, no, I know what this app, I've seen that before. I know what they're gonna do.

[Travis Kelce]

Like he was in control. Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, totally. So that was really, that was really cool. I've always thought that's a tough part of the, of, of, you know, the, the athlete's life is, is. I talked to a baseball player once who was kind of a journeyman second baseman and he was retired. He was like 37 and he was, he was retiring and, and I said what happened? And he was like, well, he's like, look, my bread and butter was a 95 mile an hour fastball. And, and he goes, someone threw me a 95 mile an hour fastball. My eyes got big and I swung and I was late.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

And I looked at the catcher and the catcher looked at me and then I looked at the picture and he goes, and he, and I was late again. Struck me out on three pitches. He goes, and then, you know, they're, with all the analytics, they're all looking at, he goes, within two weeks I was out of the league. Like everybody was throwing this fastball and, and he goes, the sad thing for me is that I, I, he goes, I know more about hitting now. He goes, if you, if you put my 37 year old brain in my 21 year old body, I'd be in the hall of Fame.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, it's crazy. Imagine like that.

[Matt Damon]

But you're, yeah, that's a crazy thing because I was, I was about his age and I was like, I'm just getting into the meat of my career now. Like this is, this is getting more and more fun and that's, that's, it's a tough decision, man. It's a tough decision. So I feel for you, whatever you make is going to be the right decision though.

[Travis Kelce]

Like we said earlier, man, this is a silly life I get to live, brother. So whether, whether, whether I'm coming back on the field or not, man, I'm, I'm, I'm still living it to the fullest, man.

[Matt Damon]

Well, and you guys, this is great too. This whole forum and everything that you guys made here is like, it's like, see, there's a lot, you know, know it was like, like Stray and said to me years ago, you know, like he, he had, he, There was another life after that he, that he was excited about too.

[Travis Kelce]

So. Yeah, and Stray, man, he's been a awesome dude to me since I've been in the league and helped me numerous off seasons trying to figure things out. So shout out to stray.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Always looking out, man.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Matt Damon]

Jason, you know that morning chaos? You got your protein shake in one hand, you got your coffee in the other.

[Travis Kelce]

You're trying not to spill everything before your workout.

[Matt Damon]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Matt Damon]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Matt Damon]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Matt Damon]

What?

[Travis Kelce]

That's crazy.

[Matt Damon]

That's crazy.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

Don't lie.

[Jason Kelce]

Jason, this is actually very good. I. I'm not a big fan of mixing protein with everyday items usually, but this is. I could get on board with this. This is really tasty. You don't really notice the protein additive.

[Matt Damon]

That's what's so.

[Jason Kelce]

Tastes like a. Yeah, everything that's protein.

[Matt Damon]

Enhanced either has that grit or it's got that weird little artificial sweetness that you always like. You're like, oh, this is not a real thing. This is off. But it doesn't matter. However you want to level up your protein game, Starbucks is coming through to help you out.

[Jason Kelce]

Try the lineup of high protein beverages at Starbucks. Or add protein boosted milk to your favorite drink to customize and create your own swole. Yeah, I mean, listen, I, I can get on board with this morning routine very easily.

[Travis Kelce]

Let's go ahead and get into this last segment. It's called we gotta ask, but you don't have to answer. You can tell us to off. You were talking about your kids earlier. As a fellow father of four girls, what is your piece? What is your best piece of girl dad advice for Jason over here, man.

[Matt Damon]

I got nothing. I got nothing for you. You're into it, you're in it. I heard before we started, I heard the kids in the back. I was like, oh, my God. You know, I do, I do have to say that, you know, there was a, you guys went to eat, or at least your, your wife did at a restaurant in Montana. Ming, Ming Sai is the chef there. And Ming's a friend of mine. And he told me this was the greatest thing. He goes, jason Kelce's wife is a rock star. Yeah, Kai. He literally was like, like she came in, he goes, she's got like an 8th 8 month old on one arm. She's got a toddler here. She got, she had four kids hanging off her. He was like, she is a boss.

[Travis Kelce]

It was like, it was very, very cool.

[Matt Damon]

So I don't think I need to give you any advice because it sounds like you married the right woman. And she's a boss, you know, she is a boss.

[Jason Kelce]

And she's got to deal with me too. A fifth kid, she doesn't even. Yeah, I unfortunately missed that because I do Monday Night Football. But I heard she's phenomenal. She's incredible with the kids. The only bit of advice whenever I get, I get asked that question too. And my first thing I tell people with advice with kids is don't listen to any advice anybody else gives you. They're all so different. I don't know how you feel about yours, but the moment one comes out there, like more sensitive, this one's a little bit more like rambunctious. Like every single one of them is like their own person. And it's like right away. Yeah. The moment they start talking, it feels.

[Matt Damon]

Like they're different, man. I, I used to have the, I used to be a real, you know, in that nature nurture argument. I, I, but I'm now on this like, nature, like that's a thing, you know, like your kids show up like that spirit, that soul is there and it's gonna do what it's gonna do. And, and, and the nurture part is very important. You're going to be a part, no doubt helping with that. But, but they really are who they are, like right away. And, and, and it's, that's like I've been a profound. And they, and as they grow older, you still see in their infant face, you still see them as their, you know, it's the only thing I'd say. An old friend of mine said when my, when my 19 year old was probably 18 months said, don't blink, don't blink. And then that, and that is, that is real. My daughter broke her collarbone and, and this morning she was getting ready for school, she's 17. And she asked me to brush her hair. And so I, I brushed her hair. And I mean it was a mo, Like I hadn't brushed her hair. I don't know, eight, nine years, you know what I mean? But, but you're at that stage now where it's like you get them ready. It's like you're brushing lined up and you're right, right. And, and those. And it's the great. And I don't remember the last time that I don't remember when I brushed her hair for the last time. It just kind of happened. And then life kind of kept going and the changes are so incre. You don't realize until, until I, I ran the hairbrush through her hair and it's the same like all of it. It's. You know what I mean?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

And it, it buckled me, man. It's like so, so don't blink.

[Travis Kelce]

That's awesome.

[Jason Kelce]

Okay. I like that. I like that a lot. All right. You mentioned just a second ago about how, you know, an athlete learns more and they actually know more. They wish they knew more when they were younger. As an actor, writer, producer. Is there something, you know now that you really wish you knew when you were.

[Matt Damon]

Oh my God. Yeah. I mean it, like it's. For me, how would. I would love to go back and remake all the movies again, you know what I mean? And, and like I Remember, you know, working with Steven Spielberg early on in my career and going like, I don't know enough about filmmaking to be next to this man right now. Like, I have so many questions and I don't know what the right questions are yet. And so I remember just following him around and just, I remember everything that guy ever said to me because I was trying to bank it because I knew it was going to come in handy. And then as you know, in the interven 30 years or whatever, I've, I, I things that he said have come back as I've kind of learned them. Oh, man. That's what he was talking about, you know, so those kind of things, I, I really got lucky and that I got to work with some amazing people. And I'd love to be able to go back through that process and work with. Even if I could just work with the people that I've already worked with. Again, there's so much I didn't know. And, and, and that's kind of the fun thing about making movies. It's like, it's, it's, it's always a different job. The challenges of a day are always different. And, and it's always fun.

[Travis Kelce]

Battle of the. You're talking about some of your previous movies. Friend of the show, George Clooney told us that.

[Matt Damon]

Don't listen to anything that guy says.

[Travis Kelce]

Everyone you guys are in talks with. Another Oceans movie.

[Matt Damon]

Oh, dear. Okay. I thought he was gonna play some practical joke on.

[Jason Kelce]

I love that. That's immediately where it goes.

[Matt Damon]

He's just, and he'll do the long ones that just go for, you know, it's, it set it up nine years ago. No.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

Well, they're, yeah, they're talking about it, you know, I don't know. We'll see. You know, these, there's always, they're always talking about. It's a, it's a, it's a weird business. You never know how things will coalesce. And I mean, I'd love, I love that group of guys. And obviously we're, we're down a few now. You know, we've lost a couple over the years, but like the, there's a lot of love in that group for sure. So if we can get our shit together, that'd be a lot of fun.

[Jason Kelce]

We have a clip here from School Ties where you play a football player.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Would, would you mind breaking this play down for us? Sure, sure.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Damon]

Oh, let's go. Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

No bar, baby. Let's go.

[Jason Kelce]

Run your ass off for me.

[Matt Damon]

It said block your ass off. Yeah, Watch. Watch what Brendan Fraser does to me.

[Jason Kelce]

Dude, look at Brendan Fraser.

[Matt Damon]

I really want to. I really wanted to score the touchdown. That's good that he's the good player. So guess what, Matt?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, that's a textbook cut, baby. This is.

[Travis Kelce]

I. This is legendary, dude.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah. Not only could I not do the cut block, he actually had to throw me in to the right position. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

That's crazy.

[Matt Damon]

That was the first. First feature film that I had a big role in. And Ben's in that movie, too. That was a good. It was Ben. Ben. Ben Affleck's in that. Cole Hauser's in that.

[Jason Kelce]

That.

[Matt Damon]

Oh, wow. Brendan. Chris o' Donnell's in there. Like, there's a really. There's a. There's a hell of a group of guys, but we were all 20 years old.

[Travis Kelce]

That's crazy.

[Jason Kelce]

That was awesome.

[Travis Kelce]

When you made the movie Air.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Did you. Did you get a chance to. To meet Mike?

[Matt Damon]

No, Ben. Ben went down and talked to Mike, and I was supposed to go, but my kids had something that day, so I stayed here and. And Ben went down to meet Mike.

[Jason Kelce]

Mike.

[Matt Damon]

And. Because this was before we made the deal to do it, because we knew that if. If Mike didn't. Wasn't down with it, then, you know.

[Travis Kelce]

You guys wanted to respect that.

[Matt Damon]

A respected and V. Like, there, There would be no. Like, we'd put all this work into a movie. And then if. If Jordan came out and was like, that's like, the movie's just dead.

[Travis Kelce]

No, I hear you. So. But we want.

[Jason Kelce]

We.

[Matt Damon]

We wanted his. His blessing. Even though, you know, he wasn't going to be a part of it. It wasn't hit. You know, we. But Ben went down and talked to him and, and, And a lot came out of that meeting. In fact, he gave us kind of people who were more instrumental than we understood from the. The original script we read. So we rewrote it. The biggest thing he said was because Ben asked him about his.

[Travis Kelce]

His.

[Matt Damon]

His parents and he was like, you know what? You know what, what role did your dad play? What do you need? And, And. And Mike said he got. He was like, like, my dad was a great guy. And he goes, my mom runs.

[Travis Kelce]

Really?

[Matt Damon]

Yeah. And Ben was like, really? He. And he was like, yeah, my mom runs. And Ben portrayed.

[Travis Kelce]

For sure.

[Matt Damon]

He's like, you. He's like, you want to try to call my mother? He's like, no, like.

[Travis Kelce]

And, and.

[Matt Damon]

And Ben was like, okay, well, who should play your mother? And before he Got mother out. Mike was like, viola Davis.

[Jason Kelce]

Wow. So just knew it right away.

[Matt Damon]

Ben called me up from Florida, where he was meeting with them, and he was like, d. Good news, bad news. I'm like, what? He's like, but we got Mike's blessing. He's like. He's like, we got to rewrite the entire script because it's all about. It's. It's all about his mother. And I go, okay, you know, great. And he. And he goes, oh. I go, what's the bad news? And he goes, there's only one actor who. And I was like, who? And he's like, viola Davis. And I'm like, all right, you want me to call. We got to call American Treasure. Viola Davis. Listen, we can't make this movie unless you make it with us. So that was. There was a great young writer on that. On that project, and. And he. We kind of rebuilt the whole thing around her character and try to make a role that was worthy of, you know, Viola.

[Jason Kelce]

That's awesome. Very cool. Very cool. Is there anybody that you've worked with. You worked with a lot of acting legends, but is there anyone that you were starstruck with on set?

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, I mean, I think that's happened a lot of times to me. But. But I went on. On Saving Private Ryan, Tom Hanks said something to all of us, actually. I. I asked him about a. He did this movie a long time ago called Nothing in Common, and Jackie Gleason played his father. And Jackie Gleason was like this, you know, bigger than life, you know, star of the Honeymooners and all this. And. And I asked him. Tom about it. And. And Tom said. I asked him if he was nervous. And Tom goes, you know what? He stopped. And he goes, I made the decision not to be nervous. I made the decision not to be intimidated by. And it was. It was really good advice. I was like 25 or 26, and it was. And it was like, don't. You know, you gotta just approach the work, you know, and you got to approach people kind of as they are, you know, I mean, it was just like a very. It was very helpful in the sense that, you know, I. I think I. I could have been intimidated by a lot of the people that I am because I. Because I'm a fan of theirs. You know, I'm a fan. And I. And I. And I still feel that way about a lot of people I work with.

[Jason Kelce]

I did.

[Matt Damon]

But it's more. More like it's. It's. It's better to appreciate Them for the work that they do, but leave the rest of the at. At the door so that you can actually get some work done.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, yeah, that's awesome advice, man. Shout out to Tom Hanks, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Man, I'm gonna start using that advice.

[Travis Kelce]

The man with one red shoe, baby.

[Matt Damon]

Let's go the Money Pit.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

We always end the segment by asking everyone what was their welcome to Hollywood moment. The story you just told us was pretty iconic early in your career, but was there ever a moment that was just like, holy, I'm doing this, or could be good, could be bad, could be just, you know.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, I think the. The. The biggest, like the. The one I think about all the time was when goodwill hunting, when we, you know, it was such a. Like a roller coaster from. From writing it to selling it to, you know, developing it, to going. The turnaround to getting picked up at another studio. There's all this stuff that the first day we were shooting and the. We were actually rolling film and the movie was getting made and. And it was a scene between Stellan Skarsgard and Robin Williams. Ben and I weren't even in the scene, but we went to watch and when they called action and those two, like, heavyweight actors, amazing actors started talking, started saying the. That we wrote, like, we just. Just tears coming down. And I think that was like.

[Travis Kelce]

That was.

[Matt Damon]

That was definitely a. Kind of an amazing moment because it was like, this is real. Like, even if nothing happens with this movie, like, we got it made, we're doing it. We were like. We were like Rocky in the first one, where it's like, we didn't even want the belt.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Matt Damon]

We just wanted to go 15 rounds and be. And still be there. And so that was kind of the moment where we were like, this movie is actually going to happen.

[Jason Kelce]

That's awesome.

[Travis Kelce]

Iconic.

[Jason Kelce]

If you had any advice for somebody that was looking into getting into writing or acting or what would your advice be? Like, what's. What's the best way to get started or learn or. Yeah, I don't know.

[Matt Damon]

Well, it's like a trade. So it's. It's to do it.

[Jason Kelce]

It.

[Matt Damon]

You know, and so find really good people to start to. To study under and try to apprentice yourself, too. And, you know, if you're. If you want to write screenplays, I'd go probably online now. You can probably get every screenplay just read. Just read, you know, read 10 of them a week and just start by osmosis. You'll start to understand kind of the form. You read the movies that you like and see what they look like in script form and, and then, and then read movies even that you don't like very much and see what they look like. And, and, and that's kind of how I, that's kind of how we did it. We, we kind of backed into writing because, because we were unemployed, nobody wanted us and so we were like, we better write our own thing. And we were kind of able to do that because we'd read so many hundreds of scripts and, and then seen those movies get made and seen what became of them and see, we had seen what got cut out and, and, and what survived and what worked on the page and what worked on the screen and all that stuff. So yeah, the more you can expose yourself to it and be around other people who are interested in it and, and you know, make it, make it a focus for, for your time and energy, then, you know, the better, the better shot you have. It's a brutal business though. You know, I wouldn't, you know, my old answer to that was always like, I would just, I just tell people, don't do it, don't do it. No, honestly, because every single person told us not to do, do it. Like everybody. There was nobody in my life who said, yep, this is good, you should do this. Like it, it's, it was a suicide mission basically. You know, like, you're not going to make any money. You're not gonna, you know, you're just gonna go out and get beaten down by the world. It's like a, you know, in the first hundred times you go audition, you usually just get rejected and it's humiliating and it's like, you know, you gotta have, you gotta really, really, really want.

[Jason Kelce]

Do you think the landscape has changed at all from when you were trying.

[Matt Damon]

To, to come up totally, totally, totally different business? Like, I don't, I don't know what to. I, I have trouble because I don't know where the business is going. And so I don't know what to tell. But, but the things that matter still matter. Like if you love acting, if you love writing, then, then it's, it doesn't matter where the business is going. You're going to find your place in the business. But, but, but yeah, just, just doing it as much as you can. Like, it really is, it, it's, it's a trade. Like people try to put all this hocus pocus around it, but it's like, you know, being a carpenter, like, you know, can you build a house? Right? So just start, start working on that and, and. And eventually you'll be able to get.

[Travis Kelce]

Out put in, man.

[Matt Damon]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Travis Kelce]

Absolutely, brother. Thank you for the wisdom. Thank you for the stories.

[Jason Kelce]

There we go.

[Travis Kelce]

Appreciate the time, man.

[Matt Damon]

Thank you guys, man.

[Travis Kelce]

And thank you. Thank you for the rip man on Netflix January 16th. Everybody go check it out.

[Matt Damon]

Matt David, Gentlemen, I really appreciate it. You guys are awesome.

[Jason Kelce]

Thank you for coming on, brother.

[Matt Damon]

Thank you for having me, man. This is awesome. I. I really do watch you guys a lot. Like for a dude who's supposed to have a job.

[Travis Kelce]

We appreciate it, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Sorry for taking up your real space. No, not yet.

[Matt Damon]

I am going to get recommended this on my phone. It's going to be great.

[Jason Kelce]

All righty, everybody. That wraps up this episode of New Hyde. Thank you so much to my Matt Damon. Y this is absurd that we get to talk to an individual of his stature and we will take full advantage of it. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts.

[Travis Kelce]

Once again, New Heights of Wonder show brought to you by Intuit Turbo Tax. Don't forget to do your taxes, ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen, you can make it a whole lot easier by doing it with Intuit TurboTax. Follow the show on all social media at New Height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. We got a bunch of them for you, man. Matt Damon, thank you so much. Thank you to the New Heights production, the team for making this thing a fun ride for all of us. And thank you to the 92 percenters for tuning in. Hope you guys enjoyed it. We'll see you next.

[Jason Kelce]

Alrighty. I'm now brown cow.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm now brown Unique New York. Unique New York.

[Jason Kelce]

Did you hear that?

[Travis Kelce]

Did you just rip it?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, I thought it was.

[Travis Kelce]

I thought that was you. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. But I was holding it in the entire Matt Damon interview. Not gonna lie.

[Travis Kelce]

You're respectable, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Talking to a.

[Travis Kelce]

You should have tried it. You should have saw your broke.

[Jason Kelce]

Do I smell something through my. Do you guys smell that? Why do I taste that?

[Travis Kelce]

To hear how.

[Jason Kelce]

What is it about good.

[Travis Kelce]

And how it's like foggy.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm going to ask you a question.

[Travis Kelce]

Foggy, huh?

[Jason Kelce]

Ask you a question, Matt. Have you ever Dutch oven your. Is that.

[Travis Kelce]

That's the thing for sure.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean a thing. I've done it multiple times just to see where I'm at.

[Travis Kelce]

You do it as an experiment? Yeah, you do. Just try. Here, let me check.

[Jason Kelce]

Wow. That's. I mean, it's my brand.

[Travis Kelce]

Let me check the old exit. See. See how we're doing here.

[Jason Kelce]

I got no problem with my brand. Wow, that is pungent.

[Travis Kelce]

So does it mean anything if it's, like, different?

[Jason Kelce]

I feel like I can tell if my protein intake based on how my farts smell.

[Travis Kelce]

Ooh, does it get more sour the more protein?

[Jason Kelce]

It gets more, like, dense. Like, if you're eating too much protein like that, your body isn't properly, like, harnessing and utilizing to build muscle. If you start eating too much protein, then it almost feels like there's, like, a change in the atmospheric pressure with your fart. Like, it's like there's more molecules in the area you said. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a pressure that is in there. Like, you are like, wow, that is thick. That's when you know you're eating too much protein.

[Travis Kelce]

All right.

[Jason Kelce]

So I sometimes gauge it if I'm trying to see, like, oh, did I eat the right amount of protein? Then you fart, and then you're like, oh, yeah, I'm definitely eating way too much protein. That thing that's basically water, that's steam. I got steam coming on my ass right now. Yeah.