Randy Moss on Cowboys Revenge Game, Edelnut Origins, Wideout Woes & an All Dog NFL Team | EP 181

Summary

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

Ep 181: Randy Moss on Cowboys Revenge Game, Edelnut Origins, Wideout Woes & an All Dog NFL Team

Aired: March 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode welcomes NFL Hall of Famer Randy Moss, widely considered one of the greatest wide receivers of all time, for an entertaining and insightful conversation. Jason and Travis Kelce dig into Moss’s journey from humble West Virginia roots to football legend, his stories from the league, legendary games—including his famous Cowboys revenge—teammate dynamics, the origin of Julian Edelman’s “Edelnut” nickname, and even create an “All Dog NFL Team” by matching football positions with dog breeds.

The show keeps its familiar, hilarious, sibling-banter tone while delivering inside-the-league perspective, nostalgia, motivation, and playful debates for football fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Introductions & Fan Mentions [01:03–10:00]

• Podcast “New Heights” Setup: Jason and Travis, with their classic back-and-forth, introduce the show and tease the arrival of Randy Moss.

• Fan Mentions & NFL Combine Talk:

  • The brothers joke about unflattering NFL Combine rookie photos, including their own before/after shots.
  • They poke fun at their younger appearances and the NFL's tendency toward awkward rookie pics.
  • "It's like the NFL purposely tries to get the most unflattering pictures of rookies." – Travis [04:30]

• Social Media & Jason’s Rise:

  • Travis praises Jason for his old-man-on-TikTok vibe:
    • "Everything he posts, it just kind of feels like either a grandpa decided to record a video and maybe did it on accident, or a toddler took his mom's phone…" — Randy Moss [06:57]
  • Jason admits feeling dumb on TikTok, but Travis notes, "Not feeling dumb is, like, one of your superpowers." [08:28]

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2. Randy Moss Joins: Crossover Sports & West Virginia Roots [11:21–18:13]

• Moss on Humble Beginnings & Staying Grounded:
  • Moss credits his authenticity and grounded outlook to his upbringing in unincorporated West Virginia.
• Sports Crossover:
  • He discusses the benefit of being a multi-sport athlete and how basketball skills—like using body positioning in the red zone—helped his football career.
  • "[In the red zone] it's all about boxing out, body placement, going up and get the rebound. So that's where I put the game of basketball into my game." — Randy Moss [13:13]
• Jason & Travis agree: Playing multiple sports as a kid is vital in developing overall athleticism.

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3. West Virginia Vibes & Giving Back [18:13–20:55]

• The “West Virginia Realness”:
  • "If you come from humble beginnings, I think that's what really keeps a person grounded." — Randy Moss [18:13]
  • Moss shares how he still gives back to kids in his hometown and brought his Hall of Fame jacket home for inspiration.

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4. The Edelnut Origins & Moss’s Rookie Mentoring [20:00–23:49]

• Naming Julian Edelman:
  • Moss explains how he coined the nickname "Edelnut" for Edelman, citing locker room antics and a moment where Edelman cursed loudly as Moss was on the phone with his religious mother.
  • "It was one of those crazy moments that I would hear later from my mom: 'Randy, who was that in the background swearing?'" — Randy Moss [21:40]
• Mentoring Younger Players:
  • Moss relished teaching young teammates, like Edelman, about the game, emphasizing the importance of vets passing knowledge down.
  • "I just saw, you know, his speed, his swiftness, but at the same time, ... his willingness to want to learn the game." — Moss [23:02]

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5. Choosing Football over Basketball & Confidence Building [24:08–32:53]

• Turning Point Story:
  • Moss shares a hilarious and humble tale of being dominated at Nike’s prestigious high school basketball camp by future NBA stars, including Kevin Garnett, leading to his decision: "Football is what I'm gonna play." [27:24]
• Florida State & Marshall Days:
  • Moss describes the setback of serving jail time and rebounding to dominate at Marshall University—emphasizing perseverance and using setbacks as fuel.
  • "I just took that as another opportunity to go reach my goal." — Moss [32:53]

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6. NFL Surfaces, Veterans Stadium Stories & Draft Day Drama [36:02–43:12]

• Playing on AstroTurf & Old Stadiums:
  • Moss reminisces about the brutal "carpet" surfaces of his era, complete with turf burns—"I've seen a man on game day ... have his whole arm stripped from here all the way down to his wrist, and it was like Velcro, man, and it was pure white." — Moss [37:00]
• Veterans Stadium Wall:
  • Moss shares Philly's locker-room wall traditions and wonders if the wall with all NFL legends' signatures survived demolition.
• Draft Day & Cowboys Pump-Fake:
  • Moss was convinced he'd be a Dallas Cowboy, primed by Jerry Jones and even a limo visit to Deion Sanders' house, only to be passed over and land with the Vikings.
  • "There was no way that I was leaving Dallas ... I was believing I was going to be a Dallas Cowboy. So that is crazy." — Moss [45:30]
• Broke His Ankle on Draft Night:
  • He broke his ankle playing basketball the night he was drafted, so rookie trading cards show him in an air cast. [42:30]

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7. Thanksgiving Cowboys Revenge Game [43:14–47:27]

• Legendary Game Motivation:
  • Moss talks about using the spotlight to simply say "Hi Mom" on Thanksgiving, then torching Dallas with 3 catches for 163 yards and 3 TDs.
  • "That game right there, I know it was just three balls thrown my way, but I was in the zone that day and I was going to not let anything stop me." — Moss [45:06]
• Would He Have Done It Against Deion Sanders?
  • Moss is unequivocal—he still would have balled out, saying the moment was bigger than any one matchup.

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8. Rival Corners, DBs & Athlete Study [47:27–50:20]

• Most Challenging DB:
  • "[Darrel] Revis was a gnat. ... The way he knew how you stepped, how he knew body language ... you talk about doing homework, that was him." — Moss [47:36]
• Other Legendary Matchups:
  • The group dives into how studying opponents, using basketball backgrounds, and body control separate greats from the good.

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9. Welcome to the NFL Moments—And Surrealism with NFL Legends [50:20–52:00]

• Surreal Experiences:
  • Moss recalls walking past Reggie White on a Monday Night in Lambeau, feeling the weight of sharing a field with legends he watched as a kid.
  • "I remember walking back to the huddle and I walk right past Reggie White and just … could feel the aura." — Moss [51:02]

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10. Patriots Years, Tom Brady, and Chemistry [52:00–60:23]

• How Moss Joined the Patriots:
  • He literally snuck into the team hotel to recruit Tom Brady:
    • "I walk in and was like, look dude, I'ma cut straight to it: I want to play with you. Whatever you can do to get me up here, do it." — Moss [53:04]
• Wiring with Brady:
  • Moss wanted to learn every check, every signal—“Everything that Brady knew, I wanted to know.”
• Travis Relates to Chemistry with Mahomes:
  • "That’s what happens when you golf together and ... play drinking games together, man." — Travis, on growing chemistry with Mahomes [58:05]

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11. QB-Receiver Dynamic & the Art of the Connection [55:18–60:23]

• Quarterback vs. Wideout Drama:
  • Moss says it’s always 50-50 blame—both positions screw up and succeed together.
• On Travis & Patrick Mahomes:
  • Moss genuinely lauds the chemistry: “That should be studied seriously. And I really mean that.” [57:40]

Notable Quote:
"He just knows ... If I break off my route different or even just run a completely different route than what's called ... that ball is going to be there on time." — Travis [57:54–59:48]

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12. Locker Room Brotherhood & What Legends Miss Most [63:27–64:37]

• Jason on Retirement:
  • "What I didn't know I was gonna miss was the locker room. Everybody tells you you're gonna miss it, but ... there ain’t anything else that replicates this." [63:53]
• Travis on Big Game Moments:
  • "Those moments of rising to the occasion in the heat of the battle ... that's a feeling that I know I'll never get again." [65:11]

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13. Defining Career Moments [66:07–69:37]

• Randy’s Best Memory:
  • "The 23 touchdowns [in a season] ... for me, of all the hard work that I put in." [66:07]
• Jason’s Turning Point:
  • "The response I had to almost getting cut ... I studied my technique, got better with my leverage, and came back ... we happened to win a Super Bowl on top of it." [68:16–68:28]
• Travis’s Pinnacle:
  • "The coolest moment was being on the mountaintop with Jason ... playing in the Super Bowl against the Eagles." [68:51]

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14. "All Dog NFL Team"—Football Positions as Dog Breeds [81:52–92:33]

Hilarious Segment Creating NFL Team Out of Dogs:

• On Jason:
  • Off-field: Bloodhound, "just not moving unless he smells something and then he's getting after it."
  • On-field: Tibetan Mastiff, "ancient guard dog."
• On Travis:
  • Off-field: Golden Retriever, "all-American...everybody loves them."
  • On-field: Great Pyrenees, "team guy...runs in packs."
• Positions as Breeds:
  • QB: German Shepherd ("leader")
  • TE: Great Pyrenees
  • RB: Husky (sled dog power)
  • WR: Border Collie & Greyhound
  • Defensive Tackle: St. Bernard (“big, slobber, slab of beef”)
  • DE: Doberman
  • LB: Belgian Malinois
  • CB: Vizsla
  • [Rapid-fire debate about dog personalities, athleticism, and "that dog in them."]

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15. Lightning Round and Show Wrap [92:33–end]

• Moss on Still Being Able to Play:
  • "I really believe ... I could really still go out there and give a team close to double digit touchdowns. ... If the right call and the right opportunity came ... I could put that 84 back on one more time." [73:03–73:47]
• Moss on the Greatest Play (Impromptu Lateral):
  • Moss describes the famous lateral against Denver: “Anytime I see that play, it’s kind of like 11 guys playing heads-up football.”
• Moss on Locker Room Culture:
  • "To let you guys know what being on this show really means to me ... when I look at you guys and see the things you guys love in your relationship ... I wish I would have had that type of relationship with my brother." [79:12–80:33]
• Emotional Moment: Moss shares his battle with cancer and deep admiration for Jason and Travis’s brotherhood, including seeing them embrace after games.

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Notable Quotes

• "If you're talking about my position, [no one has better highlights], but if you’re talking about players that ever played the game, I mean, I think Barry Sanders was a human highlight reel.” — Randy Moss [12:39]
• “It’s all the reps … but at the same time, there’s just a natural understanding of backyard football.” — Travis Kelce on Mahomes connection [58:43]
• “What I miss the most is just being in the locker room with the guys … I purposely go back still to try and get that.” — Jason Kelce [63:53]
• “The satisfaction you get … all the hard work that you put in, it’s finally paying off.” — Travis Kelce on big moments [65:11]
• “That should be studied seriously ... When it comes to quarterback receiver combination, what you guys created, man, I tip my hat to that.” — Randy Moss praising Travis & Mahomes [57:40]

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Memorable Moments & Timestamps

• [13:13] — Moss on basketball’s impact on red-zone receiving
• [27:24] — Decision to focus on football after Nike Camp embarrassment
• [42:30] — Broke his ankle playing basketball on draft night
• [45:06] — The emotional high of Moss’s 3-catch, 3-TD Thanksgiving revenge game
• [51:02] — Moss’s surreal “Welcome to the NFL” moment: walking past Reggie White
• [53:04] — Moss sneaking into Patriots’ hotel to recruit Tom Brady
• [66:07] — Each host’s and guest’s most defining NFL moment

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Tone & Banter

The episode ebbs and flows between poignant and uproarious, with authentic moments of vulnerability (discussing retirement, brotherhood, loss, and illness), pure football geekery, and locker room humor. Randy Moss fits seamlessly into the New Heights fabric, giving the episode a heartfelt and iconic feel for both NFL diehards and casual listeners.

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For those who missed it:
This jam-packed episode is a masterclass in NFL storytelling, behind-the-scenes chemistry, and playful debates—polished by the unfiltered, joyous heart of three generational athletes.

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Listen if you want:

• Relive Randy Moss’s greatest plays and mindset
• Hear rare, candid NFL brotherhood talk
• Laugh about building the most “dog” NFL team ever
• Get inspired by stories of perseverance and authenticity

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Transcript

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Randy Moss]

Jason, when it was time for you to call it quits, what's the number one thing in your mind you knew you were going to miss about the game?

[Jason Kelce]

I knew I was going to miss competing. You see is Ellie in the background?

[Travis Kelce]

This is so funny.

[Jason Kelce]

Do you go upstairs?

[Randy Moss]

Grim?

[Jason Kelce]

No. Why not?

[Randy Moss]

Is that the oldest one?

[Jason Kelce]

This is my second. You say hi. You say hi to the greatest receiver ever to play football. Say hi to Randy Moss. Are you guys going to pick up Wyatt right now?

[Randy Moss]

All right.

[Jason Kelce]

Hi, Randy.

[Randy Moss]

Mom.

[Travis Kelce]

So epic.

[Randy Moss]

Hello, sweetheart. How are you?

[Travis Kelce]

Gold Man.

[Randy Moss]

Bye, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Love you, Uncle Kathy. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Randy Moss]

Okay.

[Travis Kelce]

Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

Okay, baby.

[Travis Kelce]

Nice. Welcome back to New High. It's a wonder show brought to you by Expedia. The one place you go to go places you can go anywhere. And it helps you figure out everything else to do while you're on the go. And it's where you go to do that. We are your host. I'm Travis Kelly and my big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, representing the US of A. Again, subscribe on YouTube 13 plus wherever you get your podcast, follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s. We got a bunch of fun clips throughout the week and that's where I like to watch the show is the fun clips. So make sure you follow us on all social media. And Jason is now going to tell the people that are listening to this show what we have coming up.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, 90% as we got another amazing episode for you guys. Responding to some of your fan mentions and we're also going to build an NFL roster entirely out of dogs.

[Travis Kelce]

Ooh.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, Randy Moss is here.

[Travis Kelce]

That's right, baby. Oh, you got Moss.

[Jason Kelce]

That's right. That's right.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Straight cash, homie.

[Jason Kelce]

Before we get into that, let's get into a little bit of that new news.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, new news.

[Jason Kelce]

New news. We are pre taping this one. I'm sorry, no, real new news. Currently we're on location, grabbing some incredible guest conversation, not saying who it is, but we might be one of the goats of a sport that you love.

[Travis Kelce]

Ooh.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. So I guess that's the new news.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. All right, Nice. Let's keep this thing moving into fan mentions. Fan mentions is brought to you by one of our favorite drinks of all time. I think Ed Kelce might be one of the top buyers of this drink. At least the diet version. It's brought to you by Pepsi. Shout out to Pepsi.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, here.

[Travis Kelce]

NFL put out the NFL combine then and now. How about that? Look at these pictures. Golly, I was so fat.

[Jason Kelce]

You were fat. You're not fat in this photo. It kind of. It's not a. Not the best photo, but yeah, the

[Travis Kelce]

old straight on where you could see the double chin.

[Jason Kelce]

How much did you weigh in that photo?

[Travis Kelce]

That was a good 268, I think. I'm not sure what was my combine height and weight? I was 6, 3, 7, 8, and I think I was like 2:58 or something like that.

[Jason Kelce]

You're 6, 4 and 7, 8?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. 6, 4, 7, 8.

[Randy Moss]

Yes.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Either way, just under 6, 5.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah. Oh, man.

[Jason Kelce]

Did you scroll down and look further?

[Travis Kelce]

Jesus, Jason, you forget the trimmer. Why do you look so different? Why is your nose so thin crooked?

[Jason Kelce]

Dude, I look horrendous.

[Travis Kelce]

Why do you look like this?

[Jason Kelce]

I don't know. I look like I'm gonna get.

[Travis Kelce]

Showed me that picture back in the day. Like, that's not my brother.

[Jason Kelce]

That guy's getting strip searched for sure.

[Travis Kelce]

It's like the NFL purposely tries to get the most unflattering pictures of rookies.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't know. It would have mattered what angle they got of me. I think I was just an ugly son of bitch.

[Travis Kelce]

He really grew into being a nice, handsome boy. So handsome. Look at you on the right there. You're all golden. Get some sun. You've been at the shore.

[Jason Kelce]

Yes, yes, yes. Those pictures are always taken in the heat of summer. That first one on the left is February.

[Travis Kelce]

February and Cincinnati. Training for the job of your life.

[Producer/Host]

Did you see the other guys? They put Out. No, I'll run through them real quick.

[Travis Kelce]

Hold on.

[Jason Kelce]

Who else we got? Ooh, Josh Allen.

[Travis Kelce]

Jay Allen. Don't look too bad. Smooth cat right there.

[Jason Kelce]

No. Looks more artistic now. Exactly the same. Don't see any difference at all.

[Travis Kelce]

Young King Henry. Young Jeddah.

[Jason Kelce]

A Raj. Not much difference. Kind of has a Lloyd Christmas. Go back. The Lloyd Christmas going on there.

[Travis Kelce]

The straight across.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, it kind of looks similar. All right, all right. What do we got next? What do we got next?

[Travis Kelce]

This guy will never age. He'll look like this until he's 90 years old.

[Jason Kelce]

I think you're right. I think you're right. Burrow.

[Travis Kelce]

Burrow. I mean, I feel like Joey Burrow. Yeah. Just again. Another guy who probably trained up north. Didn't get a lot of sun. Second one. A little bit more sun. CMC. Another guy's gonna look the exact same until he's 90 years old.

[Jason Kelce]

Kind of look like a military cadet.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, Patty Mahomes. Patty Mahomes. Still looks the same. Still looks the same.

[Jason Kelce]

Not a big difference.

[Travis Kelce]

Looks like he's got a billion dollar smile though. He's.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Much happier.

[Travis Kelce]

Much happier man in Adidas gear.

[Randy Moss]

No.

[Travis Kelce]

Than he was in Under Armour back then.

[Jason Kelce]

Baker Bake still. Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

Bake.

[Travis Kelce]

Looks pretty similar beard. Yeah. George has just been growing his hair ever since. He just hasn't stopped growing his ha G. Kiddo man, what do you do? Love that guy. Oh, nice, Nice. Glad we glad we look different.

[Jason Kelce]

There's one thing for sure is that at the combine they take the most unflattering angle and lighting picture they possibly can.

[Travis Kelce]

Especially boost that morale for us pale white in the winter kind of guys. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Yes. Let's move on to everyone loving Jason's content creators.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh yeah, you are. I'm telling you're fucking crushing it with the content right now.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Yep.

[Travis Kelce]

Click this link real quick.

[Randy Moss]

Brandon.

[Jason Kelce]

I think Jason Kelce is quickly becoming one of my favorite follows on TikTok. Because everything he posts, it just kind of feels like either a grandpa decided to record a video and maybe did it on accident and then posted it, or a toddler took his mom's phone and is running around filming everything and just posting it without editing it. Like is last video I saw was him just like taking the subway. That's it.

[Travis Kelce]

It's like those progressive commercials where it's like you're slowly turning into your parents and they're trying not to let you do it.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, I feel like a grandpa using TikTok. I really do not get it. One bit.

[Travis Kelce]

You got to be a special, like, to be really, like, good at it. You got to be a special version of person, I think. And you are. You're a very special version of somebody. You're authentic, and that's what people fucking love the most about in terms of the content you create. I'm not gonna lie. I'm right there with them, dude, I fucking die laughing at everything you do, whether it's riding the subway or creating a garage beer commercial about. About beer powder. It's fucking gold, man.

[Jason Kelce]

The subway was fun. It was a great subway. Thought it was a fun video. I don't know.

[Travis Kelce]

Then it was fun and you knew exactly what you were doing. You knew what the people wanted out of you.

[Jason Kelce]

Kylie was like, will you fucking stop? Like, do you have any idea how long it took me to make that dumbass video?

[Travis Kelce]

That's the one thing. I'll always feel so fucking dumb, man. There was a. There was a point early on in my career when, like, the reels and everything really started getting going. And I would make them and then I wouldn't make them, and then I would just do one because I felt like I had to keep it going. And then it was just. There was so many, like, stories that I just felt were so pointless, and some of the shit I was doing was so pointless, and I just felt dumb doing it. And you're clearly having a blast with it. It's the best. Dude, not feeling dumb is, like, one of your superpowers.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, no. I mean, I feel dumb all the time. I feel dumb wearing this hat right now.

[Travis Kelce]

It looks great. Just embraced it from our New Heights Reddit page. Our fantasy forfeit this year. All right. Recreating the GQ shoot for a calendar. This is fucking hilarious.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, that's fucking pretty damn good.

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, you just got a fucking down pat.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, man, that's. He's got the head tilt. All of it.

[Travis Kelce]

He's got the chest hair, he's got the gut. He's got the sloppy tits. He's fucking great, dude.

[Jason Kelce]

Very nice. Very nicely done. No, no allowed. Love that. We're based in Glasgow, Scotland.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, Scotland. Nice to try and find somewhere in Scotland that resembled that. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty good right there.

[Jason Kelce]

Well done. Very well done. Hardy enough.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

I got a shout out from the Simpsons. How about this?

[Travis Kelce]

Travis? No, I did not. Can you please?

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, I didn't get a shout out. They just, like, mentioned my existence, which.

[Travis Kelce]

That's a shout out. That's a shout out in my Book. We fucking grew up in the heart of the Simpsons, man. Not that it's not still the heart of the Simpsons because they're still rolling,

[Randy Moss]

but awesome things for me to do in Philadelphia.

[Jason Kelce]

Eat cheesesteaks, hoagies, pretzels, water, ice, rip

[Randy Moss]

off a piece of Jason Kelsey's beers.

[Travis Kelce]

Nice, dude. You're just gonna have random people coming up to you trying to your beard off.

[Jason Kelce]

If it's Marge or anybody with the symptoms or. Yeah, I'm in.

[Travis Kelce]

That's pretty good right there.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, that does it for fan mentions. Brought to you by Pepsi.

[Travis Kelce]

All right, let's get into this Randy Moss interview, baby. Straight cash, homie.

[Jason Kelce]

I've never been more excited. Here we go. Our guest today is 6 foot 4 wide receiver from Rand, West Virginia. He's a four time All Pro, six time Pro Bowler, the 1998 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and the 2007 Comeback Player of the year. He holds the record for the most receiving touchdowns in a single season. He's second all time in career touchdowns, fourth all time in career receiving yards, and he is a member of the 2018 class of the Pro Football hall of Fame.

[Travis Kelce]

Just a legend.

[Jason Kelce]

We didn't pay him to come on our show, but if we did, we'd be using straight cash, homie. That's right, cash, homie. Let's go, 92 percenters. Please welcome Randy Moss.

[Randy Moss]

Hey, what's up, fellas? Thanks for having me, man. You crazy, dude. You got me ready to play again.

[Jason Kelce]

Let's. Hey, that's all I'm trying to do. Get them juices ready.

[Travis Kelce]

You know, you go out there and break somebody off, man, you already know. Just throw it up, baby. Just throw it up.

[Randy Moss]

Thanks for having me on, guys, man. I know y' all got the number one podcast out there and you know, I really don't. I really. I really don't do many podcasts. Right? But when I. But. But y'. All, Y' all too, the brothers. The realness of what y' all done put on the field and off the field. Yeah. I gotta come and show y' all some love, man. So thanks for having me on.

[Travis Kelce]

That's why you're the realest, Big guy. We can't thank you enough. You already know you're an absolute legend in. In the NFL and even more so just being you. Everybody has seen the personality kind of come out since the NFL, and it's just. It's so cool to have you on this show with us, man, because you are. You guys, the. The legends that we Grew up watching and everything. Getting you guys on this show is, like, taking me back to my childhood and, like, I'm living out a dream I didn't even know was possible, man. So I appreciate you joining us today, brother.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

[Jason Kelce]

It's the personality off the field, like, the. The entire essence of Randy. I mean, you are the greatest highlight player in the history of the NFL. Like, is there anybody else that has better highlights? To Randy Moss, there's an entire catch. Anytime somebody goes up and gets it, you got malls.

[Randy Moss]

If you're talking about my position, no. But if you're talking about players that ever played the game, I mean, I. I think. I think Barry Sanders was a human highlight reel. But. But, you know, you're talking about my position. No, but. But at the same. But at the same time, guys, you know, just. Just being able to stay grounded, keep myself grounded, and it's. It's really about the work you put in, you know? And, you know, a lot of people, you know, don't really understand my background in the sport of basketball and.

[Jason Kelce]

Okay.

[Randy Moss]

And the thing that I've always tried to tell people, Jason, was that. And Trav, I've seen it in your game, in the field of play, you know, where you have 50, 60, 70 yards to go before you score. That's when I use my quickness, you know, my elusiveness and my speed. But once you get down to the red zone, it's all about boxing out, body placement, going up and get the rebound. So that's where I put the game of basketball into my game. And that's where. That's why I say, if you put in the hard work, then hard work pays off. So, like I said, the plays that I make, hey, I put the work in to be able to make those plays.

[Travis Kelce]

We can't talk hoops without talking about your West Virginia days in high school. Rocking with Jason Williams, man.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Legendary duo. Growing up, did you guys both know that you guys had, like, something special that both of you were gonna go pro and in your respective sports?

[Randy Moss]

Me and Jason, like a quick short story. Jason, while we were in elementary school, we. We played, I think, two years of Pop Warner against one another. And Jason was a phenomenal football player, phenomenal athlete. And every sport that I played Jason played or every sport he played, I played. The only sport Jason really didn't play or. Or do was track. As far as baseball, bas and football, you know, he excelled at all three of the sports just like I did. You talking about honorable mentions all Conference and things like that. Jason was that type of athlete, but I think he got kind of discouraged my sophomore year, his junior year, where the quarterback was already sort of in place so he could really focus on basketball. So that was like Jason's last year of playing football was his 11th grade year or his 10th grade year. So we played AAU basketball. We, we, we traveled the country with one another. But I think the craziest moment for me was just playing against a lot of these former NBA players that we played against in middle school and in high school. And then of course that I branched off and made it to the NFL. But just seeing some of the guys that we played against in AAU excel on a professional level, so that was kind of like some crazy, surreal moments at the same time.

[Travis Kelce]

That's so dope, man. It's awesome. You were talking about the crossover guys like Devonte Adams talks about how in his routes he's, he's, he's thinking as if he's like on the court, a ball handler on the court, right? And his quickness and, and how he, how he switches up his tempo to make it seem more effective and more fluent. And it's awesome to hear you say that because I think a lot of guys get caught up in high school and, and even younger parents are trying to get them to just focus on one sport, but they specialize too early. Jason are huge on a big advocates on making sure you get out there, play all the sports, get, get an understanding of the hand eye and all, all these different sports and not focus on them until until after, I don't know, middle school or high school or whichever one you choose to prolong in college.

[Jason Kelce]

There's carryover for sure. You learn from one sport, you can take it and you can apply it to another one. Like I feel like I'm a better old lineman because I did two years of wrestling in middle school. Right now, I don't know if that's real or not, but you, you learn about leverage when you wrestle.

[Randy Moss]

No doubt. No doubt.

[Travis Kelce]

Randy, he was the one. He was the one you didn't want to fucking see out there, man.

[Randy Moss]

I can only imagine this guy had pimples.

[Travis Kelce]

All you. As soon as you start wrestling with, the pimples are popping and like the blood or pus is coming down his face.

[Jason Kelce]

Like you guy, oh, sweat, sweating his ass off.

[Travis Kelce]

He's the sweaty, like just mess and

[Jason Kelce]

he's just purposely not wearing deodorant. I'm going to make you feel me. I'm.

[Travis Kelce]

He's a nasty son of a buck, man.

[Randy Moss]

Athletes should leave their options open, you know, because like you said, you, you. And you know, Jason, that you say that your. Your position at center, where leverage is very important, is like. Like, you really can hang your hat on. Yay. Man. If I wouldn't have done wrestling, then my game would have been what is a professional. So, I mean, like you said, you've been able to take another sport and then put it into your professional sport. Hey, man, that says a lot.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's. And it works for all of them. Like, I mean, basketball definitely feels like the most applicable, especially if it's. If you got ball skills, complete athleticism, most of the best receivers, tight ends. I feel like a lot of those guys were Hoopers growing up. It just feels like there's a big carryover. But I do want to go back a little bit to those days with Jason Williams. What is it about guys from West Virginia? I golfed with this dude and had the most fun outing of my life at the Drone Bettis Golf out in this past year. Feels like you're the same way. It feels like Nick Saban, even hearing him talk, like there's a authenticity and a realness that there's. I don't even know how to describe it, but I just. It's. It feels like I love everybody that I meet from West Virginia, and I don't exactly know why. What is it about West Virginia that it feels like guys that come out of it like they're not trying to be anything. They're very grounded in who they are, they're proud of who they are, and they don't take shit from nobody. That's pretty much the vibe I get

[Randy Moss]

from everybody I've ever went, that is. That is us. But to answer your question, I just think that if you come from humble beginnings, I think that really what keeps a person grounded, and I think that everyone that I've seen from West Virginia, all the celebrities, you know, just being humbled and keep it grounded. Because one of the biggest things that I said in my hall of Fame speech back in 2018, just growing up and nobody caring about who I was or who we were. You know, I grew up in an unincorporated community, and still to this day, my community is still unincorporated. So I just think that, you know, being able to grow up in some. Some real, you know, type of surroundings and. And understanding what's real in life, you learn that at a very young age, coming out of the state of West Virginia, not just Where I'm from in the county, I just think as the whole state, as a whole, and what you see is what you get. So I know there's a lot of people, you know, struggling back at home, and, you know, that's one of the things that really kept me grounded. Guys, of course, you know, going back and doing charity events and going back home. I even took my hall of Fame jacket. I even took my hall of Fame jacket back home. And the reason why, because I wanted to give the kids something. Something real to see, something real to touch. And it's like back where you guys are from, it's like when you see the Kelsey brothers, you know, on television playing winter Super Bowls. Now you seeing them, you know, endorsing themselves, it's kind of like when you go back home and seeing people that you grew up with or their children and things like that. So I just want to be able to give hope to people, you know, that grew up like I did. So I just think that, you know, it just answers your question about people being from West Virginia. I know what it's like. I know what it's like, you know, when it comes to hard times, and that's something that I never forget. And I try to relay that message, you know, throughout my whole life.

[Jason Kelce]

I love that, Randy. That is so good.

[Travis Kelce]

We got to get into a little bit of story that Julian Edelman told us. Our guy. Our guy. Our guy friend of the show. You played with him as a rookie. I couldn't. I couldn't imagine having a better vet than the Randy Moss in the building. And he said he. You nicknamed him Edelnut.

[Randy Moss]

Edelnutt. Well, he came in.

[Travis Kelce]

Where'd that come from?

[Randy Moss]

I don't know where. Edelnut Edelman. I don't. I know it just sounds crazy, but, you know, you know, all the comedy and jokesters in the locker room, you just try to find humor day to day, just to get your day by. He tells a story about me being on the phone with. He calls it Mama Moss. And, you know, just briefly, you know, I grew up in, you know, in, you know, of course, in Ran, West Virginia. And, you know, my mom, we grew up in the church, and, you know, I grew up a drummer. And so. Okay, when it. When it. When it comes to, you know, profanity and things like that, you know, my mom, being the Christian she is, she doesn't want any swearing going on, nowhere around her. So at that time. At that time, I'm in the locker room and Julian's behind Me cussing. I forgot who he was talking to, but he was being loud. But he seen me on my phone and I was smiling and I was basically telling him to, you know, be quiet, to hold on and I'm on the phone. And then he was like, who, what? You know, so it was like one of those crazy moments that I would hear later from my mom, Randy, who was that in the background swearing? I was like, oh my God. So that was like one of those crazy moments that I had to hear from my mama later on in life who was in the background swearing. So that's, that's where, it's where, that's where that moment came from. But it was actually a crazy moment at that time.

[Jason Kelce]

That's awesome.

[Travis Kelce]

When you saw Julian come in because he was a quarterback in, at Kent State, man, did you see something in him immediately? Like did he have, did he have that it factor when he walked in the building?

[Randy Moss]

The thing about New England and how they were running their offense about. Before I became a Patriot, you look at all those small shifty receivers. You have the small shift. Yeah, you have the shawl. The small shifty versus running backs. You know, they had a guy like Kevin Faulkin and they brought in later Sweet Feet White and those other guys. But then, yeah, you know, just looking at the past, before I became a patriot, they had a guy like they had a guy by the name of Troy Brown. Went to Marshall. Yeah, yeah. I studied his game. I was a two way player. I was a big fan of, a big fan of his. And, and I was just looking at Troy was, I think Troy was coming off a knee surgery. So we bring in myself, we bring in Welker and Edelman at the same time. So they're trying to figure out, you know, where they can put Julian Edelman coming out of Kent State as a quarterback. So all the gadget plays they knew they had in Julian, but I just think being a Swiss army knife of getting in and out of clutch, he had to learn that. And I didn't have a problem throughout a 14 year career teaching the guy the game. I think it's the more, you know, the better it helps you as a team.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh yeah.

[Randy Moss]

And so I really didn't have a problem with Edelman or anybody teaching them the game. And I think that I just saw, you know, his speed, his swiftness, but at the same time, you guys know as a young rookie, his willingness to want to learn the game. So that's really what, what, what took me over the top with him. And then he tells a story about me giving him money to feed the guys. And I, you know, you're late draft pick. Some guys may be undrafted, you know, free agent, but they still got to chip in to, to feed the veterans. So I just thought at that time, and I don't know how much he was making, but that's always been my heart, just for the guys. And you know how the vets get, you know how we get.

[Jason Kelce]

The vet should be ruthless.

[Randy Moss]

Especially y', all, the old lineman, you know, the donuts, the food, whatever's not there, you guys will go crazy. So that's what I was thinking about.

[Jason Kelce]

That's right. Well, that's awesome, man. All right, let's flash it back a little bit to West Virginia again. All right, so you're 1994 West Virginia player of the year in football. Also won the West Virginia player of the year in basketball twice. You said you were more of a Hooper. At what point did it transition? Did you know football was the future?

[Randy Moss]

The summer of 94. Jason Nike used to run a. A camp where they invite the best players around the country to a remote location and just ball for the weekend. Yeah, well, Jason was, you know, he's a year on, older than me, and I always played a year up. Most guys do when it comes to like AU and things like that, so. So the following year I went to the Nike camp. I got the invite. Me and another guy by the name of Gene Neighbors ended up going to LSU playing point guard for them. And speaking of Gene, Gene was the only guy that I ever seen give Jason Fitz as a point guard. They used to go at it. And if you ever ask Jason, say, Jason, did you and Gene Neighbors used to go at it? Yeah, they used to go at it. So I go to Nike camp and you know, I'm sitting up there not really feeling good about it because I'm seeing, you know, Kevin. Darn that. I'm just seeing guys, you know, 6, 7, 6117 footers. And so I'm sitting up here asking myself, can I compete? Do I belong here? So at the time, you know, we were sitting here talking about, you know, keeping your options open of playing all the sports you can actually play. Well, I was a seasonal athlete just like maybe you guys were, you know, whatever season it was, that's what sport I played. Yes, those guys, like Kevin Garnett. There was a guy by the name of Ron Mercer out of Tennessee, ended up playing for the Chicago Bulls. All those guys were all year round gym rap. So that Year we ended up playing the team out of California that had the number one ranked underclassman by the name of Shea Cotton. You don't believe me, you can Google it. There's only been Shay Cotton, Shay Cotton. There's only been three phenom in the history that I've been living. Moses Malone, Shay Cotton, lebron James, Them. The only three phenoms that I've ever, you know, heard about. I've seen two of them. I didn't see Moses back when he was in high school, but I see Lebron and I seen Shay and he was a phenom. But anyways, we play them. He's a left hander. Well, he embarrasses me. I come back, yeah, I mean, he totally, totally, straight up, totally embarrassed me. This guy is an underclassman, but he's the number one rated player in the country. But like I say, Kevin Barvette was the number one rated player because he was a senior that year. Shay was, I think, I think Shay was maybe a sophomore that year, but he's the number one player. Anyways, I get embarrassed. So then I'm already feeling a certain type of way. Well, we, we get a rain delay. I'm on a. I'm on a court. Kevin Garnett's out there playing. So me and him somehow get into a one on one match. I asked Kevin, does he remember this? And he kind of looked at me. I was like, well, Kevin, I got great memory. I remember this.

[Travis Kelce]

I remember like it was yesterday.

[Randy Moss]

So using my. So using my speed with basketball guys, I try to get to the rim and try to lay it up as high as I possibly could over the white box. Okay, okay.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Okay, man, you gotta be up there.

[Randy Moss]

Kevin Garnett gets up on the basketball Jason and pins my ball with the palm of his hand. So I'm already feeling discouraged from Shay Cotton and what he did to me. And now Kevin Garnett did this to me. So then when I go back home, they say, hey, man, you went to Nike Camp Moss, how did it go? I said, football player. That's what I'm gonna mean.

[Travis Kelce]

I said, man, I'm ready for football.

[Randy Moss]

Yes, I am. And that is really a true story. I mean, I'm putting a little bit of humor into it, but at the same time, that was a true story. That what would happen to me that really changed my mind of playing basketball? And then it's like, dude, I don't even think I can compete with those guys. So let me stick to football.

[Jason Kelce]

That Is amazing.

[Travis Kelce]

That's such a good story. KG ended up going straight to the NBA from there.

[Randy Moss]

Well, yeah, from high school. But see, the thing about it, it was kind of crazy because we had a couple nights out where we seen each other, and of course we supported one another. We ended up taking that, the iconic picture together. But like I said, I. I just told, you know, just Kevin, just more of the. Of the things that when you grow up playing against certain guys, you know, I get fueled. I was fueled in height, seeing other guys that I played and competed against to make it to the next level. And that's when I started, you know, when I got to college and seeing Kevin on that level, and I was like, hey, man, I could really compete. And I remember going to Florida State my freshman year, you know, coming out of West Virginia, where the talk is, you know, we don't. We don't breed athletes, and if you do there, they don't compete, you know, So I think that I had a lot of. A lot of questions about my game at Florida State. But then I left Florida State, went to Marshall, and I had a lot of confidence and. And the reason why I had a lot of confidence because a lot of the guys professionally came back to Florida State and trained. Trav, you'll love this one. So during the off season, everybody, they're beating on my door, beating on my door. Country boy, country boy. Come on outside. Come on outside.

[Travis Kelce]

Everybody wanted to smoke.

[Randy Moss]

So I'm sitting up here like, you know what's going to. Hey, man, the pros are out here training. Come and get some. Come and get some. So I mean, it was guys like Devin Bush's. Devin Bush senior, he was still in the National Football League. He went to Florida State. You know, just a lot of the past guys that made it because Florida State was putting athletes in the league like, like, right, left. So I get out there and those guys are talking, oh, you're the country boy I hear about. Well, anyways, I go out there, embarrass those guys. I handle my business. And then. And then right after that, the spring comes. The spring comes. I. I have a great spring. And then I go back to. To West Virginia, serve some jail time, and end up getting, you know, thrown out of Florida State. But anyways, getting back to the story of the confidence factor of being able to have the confidence coming from Florida State and then from the AU basketball court to Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played with at Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played AAU ball against, you talking about confidence and not looking back. And then also the. The. The trials and tribulations of. Of this. You know, coming from the state of West Virginia, dude, it was destined for me to really get out there and just grit my teeth and just go get it.

[Jason Kelce]

Heck yeah, man. Heck, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

That's such a good story. From one flip side to a. To a Nike invite, to realizing that, you know, this might not be the thing. And then on the other flip side, going down to Florida State and realizing, like, oh, yeah, I got something over here, right? That's a dope dynamic.

[Jason Kelce]

I feel the same way, because people. A lot of times people ask, like, when did you know you could go to the NFL? It's like, I kind of started knowing once I saw guys go and I was playing against them. It was the same way in college. Like, I'm like, man, am I good enough to play in college? And then I'm playing against Thaddeus Gibson over at Euclid, and I'm like, I can compete with Thaddeus, and he was committed to Ohio State, so I feel like I can.

[Randy Moss]

I'm.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm right there, and then all of a sudden, you're in college, and you see guys that your teammates with go and you're like, okay, I might get a shot at this thing. And what was it like? You just mentioned going from Florida State, going back to West Virginia, Marshall. What. What was that like?

[Randy Moss]

It was hard for me, guy. And the reason why is because what I struggled with, you know, as far as my, you know, my upbringing, then got into that high school, you know, fight, you know, getting sentenced to some jail time, and, you know, it's kind of like that. You know, throughout my whole life, I think a lot of the people around the state seen my talents and, you know, wanted me to be a Mountaineer. And, you know, I followed the Mountaineers. They, you know, competed against Notre Dame in the national championship in the late 80s. So, you know, I've always followed the Mountaineers. I follow Marshall, you know, and the divisions that they were in and the players that they even put in their program. But I just always wanted to get out, Jason, and. And just being able to get out and then coming back home, it was kind of crazy to me. And like I said, being able to see those guys pull up in the Lexus and, you know, the Mercedes and seeing a lot of things that I didn't see growing up. So when I came back home, it was kind of depressing for me because I kind of failed myself. And I think that Being able to get an opportunity to play football again, I got with Marshall, you know, I had a great group of guys as far as my. As far as my teammates, you know, just being able to uplift me in certain situations, in certain moments. We went undefeated my first year, so I think that, you know, a lot of the stuff that, you know, I took from Florida State, I took the Marshall, man, and like I say, the rest is history. You can look at the record books, you can look at the scoreboard. So like I said, man, so I took, I just took a lot, you know, from Florida State. But at the same time, like I told you, what fueled me to go out there and try to make it to the top, I didn't want to take. I didn't want to take that little bump in the road, you know, going back home to Marshall. I just took that as another opportunity to go reach my goal.

[Jason Kelce]

Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah. Well, it worked out.

[Travis Kelce]

Heck yeah, it did.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Randy Moss]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

Well, yes. Yes, I would.

[Travis Kelce]

How many times do we stick with something just because it's what we've always done?

[Jason Kelce]

That's pretty much my whole life. Yeah. You know, you're so used to one thing, but when you actually think about it, you realize you've been missing out on something better.

[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

Find the right [e-mail] science does more. Some of the most iconic college highlights of all time, man. I mean, you throw on that Randy Moss highlight tape over at Marshall, man, I love that. And that was back in the Astroturf days.

[Randy Moss]

Oh, my God.

[Travis Kelce]

What was, what was it like going playing on Astroturf every single home game or every single week?

[Randy Moss]

Well, the thing about it is I played on Astroto Astroturf a lot in high school, too. So it was kind of like I played an Astroturf in high school, played on Astro turf in college, and then when I got drafted to the Minnesota Vikings, they were on Astro turf. So it was kind of like you had to understand how to play on it. Because if you don't understand how to play on it, it could really, you know, as far as the cutting, you know, as far as the joints on your knees and then also the scrapes and cuts on your body. I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't really know my degrees as far as burns first, second or third degree. But I've seen a man. I've seen a man on game day to have his whole arm stripped from here all the way down to his wrist, and it was like Velcro, man, and it was pure white.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, my gosh.

[Randy Moss]

So like I said, I had to learn Like I said, I had to learn how to play on it, but at the same time, you know, just been able to, to make the transit transition to, to, you know, the grass or the field turf. I mean, I enjoyed every moment of it though, because I played on the

[Travis Kelce]

worst one stadium in that we played in high school, Lakewood High School. And that was, that was only really the, the, the only chance I ever had to play on Astro Turfer. When you came in the league, it was, you had all, all fields. It was AstroTurf, it was regular fields, and then it was baseball fields.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah, yeah, like you were playing on

[Travis Kelce]

the infield, you were playing on Astro. Like it's, that's dynamic.

[Jason Kelce]

We, we complain about field turf now and it's like, man, guys were playing on carpet and, and running on a mound. They were running the second base out there.

[Randy Moss]

I'm gonna tell you one of my, one of my craziest moments. Of course, I don't think I've ever won in Philly. I don't think I've ever won in Philly. But they used, but they used to have a wall. Visitors locker room. Did you ever hear about that wall?

[Jason Kelce]

I don't think I've heard about this.

[Randy Moss]

All the former players and I don't even know how, how far it goes back. I know it's back in the 70s. I mean, you got, from Walter Payton, you know, Refrigerator Perry, you got all the guy. Well, anyways, when they come into the visitors locker room at the old Vet, we sign this wall and you can sign it whatever you would want. You know, we're going to keep Yalls, whatever, Brandy Boss, you know, whatever it is. So Walter, Walter Payton being, you know, my favorite player growing up, I signed my name near his. I mean, I saw Jerry Rice's, I seen all these players that are in the visiting locker room. You, you can sign this wall, you can say what you want and then put your autograph on it. Then I said, well, what did they do with the wall when they built the new stadium? I don't know, but that was one of the craziest moments going into the Vet.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, we got to find that wall. There's no way they let that get, get out of there.

[Jason Kelce]

I can't believe this. This has got to be. This is in somebody's basement. They're doing a good job keeping a secret.

[Randy Moss]

They couldn't have demolished it with all the autographs and all the history just on. It was a brick. It was just a brick wall that was kind of like holding up the stadium. I say over 100, 150 athletes on

[Travis Kelce]

that wall, and that's crazy.

[Jason Kelce]

I can't believe they didn't incorporate in the new stadium. They should, like, it should be enshrined. I got to. I got to figure this out.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah, really.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, you mentioned playing with the Vikings, right? You get draft. First of all, what was draft day like? We ask everybody who got draft, like, what was that process like?

[Randy Moss]

My draft day was kind of crazy because of the expectations that I had that I was going to be a cowboy. And.

[Travis Kelce]

Wow. Okay.

[Randy Moss]

I just didn't know this. All right, now. Now, I told you about my background, about my mom being in church and Christian, and my mom was, you know, really into church. She really wasn't into sports. You know how you guys take that visit to a team and then they host you or whatnot, you know? Yeah. Dallas was a little different. They hosted a lot of players. They didn't host you, you know, individually. So I come back home, you know, thinking that I'm going to be a cowboy. So I come back telling everybody in my hometown and tell my mom. And then my mom's like, okay, son, if you say you're going to be a cowboy, then you're going to be a cowboy. So I remember on draft day, sitting there, you know, you got the ESPN camera there in the house that I was in, and I remember my mom sitting there with a Bible on her lap, and it was kind of crazy because I was like, okay, mom, you know, you here, I know you're over there praying, but it's kind of weird that my mom's here in this sport type of moment. And so when I tell her I'm going to be drafted and they, you know, the eighth overall pick, the Dallas Cowboys, select Greg ls. And that was my, you know, supposed to be selection. And so, like I said, I seen my mom's, you know, energy and facial expression, and then I was feeling a certain type of way. So I just think that, you know, I know there's more to this, and we don't have time for it, but you guys, you two, the Kelce brothers, you guys don't understand as far as. There's been a lot of. Lot of blood as far as the family blood that goes through the National Football League, but I think it's being successful as a pair of brothers, man. I think that's really what I tip my hat and commit you guys for, because that's really hard to do. You know, you got one brother over here having success you got another brother. You guys are really competing against each other, but at the same time, you still have the love. So anyways, my brother played for the Minnesota Vikings before I was drafted. He went to Ohio State. He backed up Corey Pace and, I mean Corey Stringer and Orlando Pace and, and so my brother called me first. He's like, hey man, Coach Green wants to, to talk to you. And I was like, ah, man, I'm not really into, oh, Randy, we're going to draft you. Okay, whatever. So, so, because I was like, I said, man, I was already depleted from, you know, not getting, you know, the eighth overall pick. So when it came to the Vikings pick, they picked me up and, and then all of a sudden, you know, I get the call and I'm like, you know, thanks, coach. You won't regret this. All I want to do is just play football. Manager, you've been a bumpy 24 hour road for me. I was an emotional wreck. I was like, coach, I just want to play football. That's all I want to do. So I go back that night, get ready to get on my plane, and I ended up breaking my ankle. So if you ever look at my rookie trading card, you'll look at me and Dennis Green on a practice field and I have an air cast on my foot because on draft night I had to get my mind away from not getting drafted. I went and played basketball and broke my ankle.

[Travis Kelce]

Broke the ankle and broke my ankle.

[Jason Kelce]

What?

[Randy Moss]

So I, you know, hobbled through an airport, went through Chicago o', Hare, hobble. They seen me jumping, they went and got a wheelchair for me, took me to my gate, and then all of a sudden I went to Minnesota. They got me the gate, brought me to the coaches, and first thing they done to me was took me straight to the doctors and put the boot on me.

[Jason Kelce]

What did they say?

[Randy Moss]

They can't say. They knew my history, they knew my background. So I mean, it's like, okay, things happen. So like I said, man, it was like, it was a crazy moment. But like I said, just being able to get drafted. My brother called me and. Which is like, like the Minnesota Vikings want to. So me being up there in Minnesota for my first couple of years, man, I had my brother with me.

[Travis Kelce]

Man, that's so cool, man.

[Jason Kelce]

You got your revenge on the Cowboys. Talk about, talk about Thanksgiving. What was that game like? Did you know coming into it you were going to go off for that much?

[Randy Moss]

No, I really didn't. I think that, you know how you sit at home as a kid and you see all the athletes, like, score touchdown, and all of a sudden the camera goes right to that athlete. And I know both of you guys have, because I've seen it. Hi, mom. Am I right?

[Jason Kelce]

Yes.

[Travis Kelce]

Every time. You know it.

[Randy Moss]

So my biggest thing was being on that stage Thanksgiving Day. I just wanted to say, hi, mom. That's all I wanted to do. So that game, we're in the cold tub because we just played on Sunday. Y' all guys know how important the cold tub is.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, yeah.

[Randy Moss]

So I didn't want to get in the cold tub, but the. The veterans forced me in there and I went up and having those three catches, that iconic game. But I think for me, just going up there, just being able to ignore the noise, seeing familiar faces, because I remember when I took that trip before the draft, I seen, you know, some faces, you know, as far as the recruiting and the scouts and things like that. So me going out there, just seeing some familiar faces, I had to be able to ignore that. But at the same time, put my focus on going out here and having a great game. But then out of all the things that I'll say this with that game, with my mind being everywhere, you know, my wide receiver coach, you know, dot rest is so. Hubbard, Alexander and Chris Carter, Jake Reed, our ride receiver, core 3D. We all stayed together that game. And it was my rookie year. I mean, I know my coming out party was the Green Bay Monday night, but that game against Dallas, guys, it was kind of like, it was so emotional and it was kind of. We've all been in a zone before, you know, where you think, like, every block I'm going to get and there's no ball that I'm going to drop. You know what I'm saying?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, for sure.

[Randy Moss]

That game right there, I know it was just three, three, three balls thrown my way, but I was like, dude, I was in the zone that day and I was going to not let anything stop me.

[Jason Kelce]

Three balls for 163 yards and three touchdowns. That's a heck of a day.

[Randy Moss]

Hang my hat on that one.

[Jason Kelce]

One of the producers is a Cowboy fan. Grew up in Texas. He has this in there. I got to ask, and we know you're involved to Boulder. Do you still have that same game if Deion's playing?

[Randy Moss]

Probably. The thing about it. Quick, crazy story. I gotta tell you this, guys, and the guy that the Cowboy fan. You're gonna be sick at this store real quick. When I get to Dallas, I'm already sitting up here wondering about what is My day going to be like, okay. So I come down to the lobby and one of the security guys tells me, he said, hey, Randy, you're not going to come to dinner tonight. We're going to. There's Mr. Jones sent the limousine to get you. And the limousine is going to take you over to Prime Times house. And I'm like, I've never met Deion Sanders. I'm like, oh, my God, I don't know. Crazy. So that night I go to Deion Sanders house. He tells me, you know, the story of, hey, man, I'd love to play with you. Jerry Jones wants you. He wants me to talk to you. So, guys, there was no way that I was going, leaving Dallas that, you know, in my mind I. I was believing that I was going to be a Dallas Cowboy. So that is crazy.

[Travis Kelce]

What a pump fake, man.

[Randy Moss]

Right? Yeah, for the pump fake. So back to what you were saying. It wasn't. It. It had nothing to do with if Dion was playing or not. One thing that I'll tell you, that Chris Carter was always up for the big games that we played the big guys. Like, we had a Williams hall of Fame brother out of Arizona Cardinals. Yep, played him. We played James Hasty and Dale Carter, cornerback side of Kansas City. At the time, they were both pro Bowlers. So being a veteran player, you know, he always used to tell me about, hey, man, you got to be worried about this when you got to worry about this. When I remember talking about Dion and he was like, I don't know if he's going to play, but if. If he does, you got to watch out for this. You got to watch out for that. So I was just up to the moment of my rookie year, knowing it was Thanksgiving, everybody talking about me and Deion Sanders, and I was like, man, I can't not wor about Dion. That's like. That's how focused I really was, guys. I really was really focused that game.

[Travis Kelce]

Was there a DB throughout your entire career that you kind of like give the tip of the cap to that, that you just. He always made your job just that. That much harder.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah. And I'm not ashamed to say his name. Darrell Reavis was a gnat. Yeah, he was just a nat. I mean, and the thing about it. What was you going to ask me, Jason? What made him. What made him good?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, because it wasn't like he was like this crazy, like, fat. Like. I mean, he was. But what made him so good at corner?

[Randy Moss]

I mean, without stating the obvious, you know, guys, study. You know, they study techniques, they study, you know, formation, things like that. But by him being not as fast as, you know, a Champ Bailey or Deion Sanders, the man was athletic beyond. You know, when I say athletic, if you study a guy like Darrell Reevas, go back to his highlights back when he played basketball in the state of Pennsylv.

[Travis Kelce]

Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

Okay.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah, okay. So when I go back to, to do my study, and I already went back to his high school, looking at his skill set, because I remember the release. I, I did a release his rookie year, and then the second year I came back, I tried to do the same release, and I'm like, oh my God, he got it. So it was kind of more like he did his homework on me. Now it's time for me to do mine, which I thought I did. But I had to really go into my study mode with a guy like him because he was so good. And I just think that the way he knew how you stepped, how he knew body language, along with having a, you know, a great defensive coordinator on a guy like Rex Ryan and then later on going to, you know, Bill Belichick's defense. So like I said, Darrell Reavis was a natty studied, but I think one of the things that he really didn't get for credit, get credit for was how good of an athlete he was. Just not as a cornerback. But the man was a hell of a guard too.

[Jason Kelce]

Heck yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

When I got to go up against him, he was stout and strong.

[Randy Moss]

He had great patience.

[Travis Kelce]

He never opened his hip. It was crazy.

[Randy Moss]

Do you remember the time when they took you out of the three point stance and they let you get out here and line up at that wide receiver? Oh, yeah. Well, because, but. Because the crazy thing about it was Travis kind of like we knew, you know, as football fans, like, hey, this man right here can play some football. So then all of a sudden now you, they, they detach you from the tackle and let you get out there to two point stands. And then you really get to see how shifty you were as a player. And now I went, Jason.

[Jason Kelce]

Yes. That was a perfect impersonation right there.

[Travis Kelce]

Don't look at the shoulders. You're gonna get lost, right? You're gonna get lost in the shoulders.

[Randy Moss]

Being able to go against certain guys like, you know, a Charles woods and a Champ Bailey, a Darrell Revis, a lot of that stuff was important because of if they do their study and, and learn how to be patient at the line, you'll definitely have success against most wide receivers in today.

[Jason Kelce]

I love it. I. I gotta. We usually ask what is your welcome to the NFL moment? But you made the Pro bowl your rookie year and we're second team all Pro. It doesn't sound like you had a welcome to the NFL moment. That was like. I mean, I guess it was the Cowboys game. I guess it was the Green Bay or Cowboys game. Like, there are positives. It was. My welcome was like facing off against Ray Lewis for the first time. I'm like, man, I can't believe I'm trying to block Ray Lewis. Do you have any moments like that?

[Randy Moss]

I think what was crazy for me, and it was Monday night. It was Monday night in Lambeau. And I remember. I don't remember the result of the play, but I remember walking back to the huddle and I walk right past Reggie White and just, just as you

[Jason Kelce]

know, just could feel the aura,

[Randy Moss]

the

[Jason Kelce]

minister of defense right there.

[Travis Kelce]

That guy doesn't get his hands on me. God damn.

[Randy Moss]

Now. Because, I mean, there's already a clip of him throwing Chris Carter out the way he's trying to chip the edge. But I think, you know, so imagine that, that, that throw. But I think that that was a moment for me. I think just not looking at the, the, actually the, the, the stats and the yards. I just think being able to look and seeing that I'm on the same football field as Reggie White. And then there was another clip of me talking about my coaches telling me, hey man, sit down, man, come and rest your legs. I was like, no, that's Bret. So, you know, so it's just crazy moments like that. I just remember Brett Favre being on the field, Barry Sanders being on the field, and then walking past Reggie Whites at the rookies. So it's kind of like the guys you grew up watching and now you're on the field playing against them or with them. That's, that's, that's probably my surreal moments.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh yeah, I had one of those surreal moments when we played the Patriots for the first time. I saw Tom Brady in person, man, live in an action in his super suit, wearing the 12, man. How was it when you went to the Patriots? Was it, was it, was it a night and day like difference from anywhere you had ever been? Or what was it like meeting time for the first time?

[Randy Moss]

Dude, we can have fun on this on Yalls podcast all day, but check this out. So y' all know, So y' all know. So you know, Saturday night before the game, we're in a hotel, we're the visitors, right? So you Know the what? We're on two floors and, you know, you got the security on both floors of all this crazy stuff. So we're the Raiders. We play on Sunday. I fly back to Minnesota. So one of my former teammates is at the hotel getting ready for the Monday night. Well, guys, I drive down to their hotel, sneak in the hotel and go up the, the exit, the exit stairs and get up on their floor. All right? Okay. Jason, you're looking at me like, Ray, like, what is this? Randy?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Right? Yeah, yeah.

[Randy Moss]

There are probably what, four or five hours before they go to the stadium on Monday night. I sneak in their hotel, meet Brady for the first time. Trav meeting for the first time. And I said, look, dude, I'mma cut straight to it. I said, dude, I want to play with you. Whatever you can do to get me up here, do it. So the next thing you know, I gave him, adapt him up, gave him some love, walked out. That night. I watched the game. Brady's first time ever in his career. He throws five touchdowns against the Minnesota Vikings. Like, so I'm sitting up here thinking, oh, I might have rubbed off on Brady a little bit.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, no.

[Randy Moss]

So being given the opportunity to get traded from Oakland to the Patriots, the number one thing that I wanted to do. Jason Travis, offensive players, I wanted to know everything that Brady knew. As far as Jason, the checks, you know, when I'm hot, when it's a sight, when you're changing the protections. Giving me everything that Brady knew, I wanted to know, because if it had something to do with me, I wanted to hit the ground running. Okay, sure.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

And so. And I had high expectations and end up getting a hamstring injury that, that forced me out of preseason. And so actually my first actual game going out here, really doing it was week one against the Jets. And so like I said, I was coming off a hamstring injury. But anyways, the rest is history. About the 23 touchdowns and the record breaking season. But like I said, I just wanted to know everything that Brady actually or possibly knew that could help my game out.

[Travis Kelce]

Not enough guys play this game through the eyes of the quarterback, man. It's. It's crazy how much you can, you can benefit off of understanding the whole grand scheme of things. And, you know, I think even at a young age, man, I like playing quarterback. I felt like, helped me out so much more because I understood the, the, the progressions. I understood, you know, where that, that that position's eyes were before every single snap, man. That's awesome to hear, brother.

[Randy Moss]

That.

[Travis Kelce]

That. Because it really did seem like you guys were in sync, especially if somebody was. Was playing too low or his safety came down or. You already know. It was. It was up top all. All. All season that year.

[Jason Kelce]

I gotta ask you, while we're on this quarterback receiver dynamic, quarterback receiver drama is like a tale as old as time. I remember playing freshman football, Trav hears me bring this up all the time. I'm wide open. I'm getting mad at, like, will you throw me the ball? Like, what is happening here? Why are you not so. I got it. When you're seeing quarterback receiver drama, are you always on the receiver side of things? Like, what. Whose fault is it usually in your mind?

[Randy Moss]

I think it's a 50 50. And I'm. The reason why I say it's a 5050 is because you take a guy like. I'm gonna give you just a prime example of what we're. We're looking at right now. You take a guy like Aaron Rodgers. Okay?

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

And it's like, Aaron Rodgers has some bathrobes where he looks. You know, where he might throw the ball to bathrobe. And then, like, it's nothing. No body. No body language, no emotion. Okay? Then all of a sudden, the very next play or a couple plays, the receiver drops the ball. Now Aaron is all like, yeah, yeah, so pissed. Yeah, he's pissed. So, like, I say, you know, not single and Aaron out, because, I mean, he's had a phenomenal career and doing some great things. But when you look at. You know, to answer your question, Jason, I think it's just a 50, 50 split because we have our times, Trav, where we're not in the right place or, you know, we might have went to too far that the quarterback wasn't expecting us to be. But at the same time, they could get rushed and try to get the ball out of their hands. But to that point in the history of the game, Trav, you and Pat, as far as the anticipation, he. Knowing where you're going to be before you even turn your head or get out of your break, that should be studied seriously. And I. And I really mean that. And I'm not saying it just because you're sitting here on this podcast, because I appreciate that you talk about the art and the science of sports, but at the same time that quarterbacks are really made, when you want to say, hey, I want to see my. I want to see my wide receiver create separation and get open. Though Patrick knows what the route is where you're going to stop Your body language. And like I say, one of the. That's one of the most beautiful things to see when it comes to quarterback receiver combination is that of what you guys created, man. I tip my hat to that, man.

[Travis Kelce]

That means the most comfort for you, big guy. And I'll tell you what, man, Sometimes he surprises the out of me. I don't. I don't know, because I'll turn my head around and. And. And maybe break off my route different or maybe even just run a completely different route than what's called.

[Randy Moss]

Right. Right.

[Travis Kelce]

That is just right on cue. Right on the money every single time, man. He just knows we've. That's what happens when you. When you golf together and you. You. You play drinking games together, man.

[Randy Moss]

You just.

[Travis Kelce]

You get a. You sit down and have a beer with a guy, you start to get in his head.

[Randy Moss]

Well, let me. Let me ask you just, you know, football talk, you know, like, I. This all day, baby. Just our position. When it comes to the chemistry that you guys, between you and Patrick, that you guys created, how did y' all create that chemistry, bro? I mean, like, I. I know you're gonna say practice. I. I know. No, it's not just practice. Like, what type of belief did, like, yalls conversation? Like, how did y' all make that. Talk to me, man. Tell me.

[Jason Kelce]

You already know. I think it's.

[Travis Kelce]

You already know. It's over.

[Randy Moss]

It's.

[Travis Kelce]

It's all the reps. It's all the reps. But at the same time, I think there is just a natural understanding of backyard football. Like. Like paddle. Pat will tell you from the. From the get go. I. I used to come into. I came into this thing with Alex Smith. He's. He's more seven step. That ball's coming out. You know what I mean? And you got to be there. Pat's kind of like, yeah, I'm around my seventh step, but I could. I could, you know, airtime on it, do something with my feet. My seventh step might not be. I might stretch my drop this time.

[Randy Moss]

Time.

[Travis Kelce]

So his timing is. Is more just feel out the game. And I kind of have that similar timing as well. And I remember I went up to Pat one time and was like, all right, man, if they go this coverage, I'm gonna run it like this. I'm gonna run it like that. Hey, what do you think if I give him a nod here and take an extra, like, tick to get out of my break? He's just like, nah, man, just get open. Just get open.

[Jason Kelce]

I'll throw it when you get open, he's just that.

[Randy Moss]

That's crazy.

[Travis Kelce]

Like, bro, the guys. He's trusting me to get open. He said, I don't care how you run this route, you just get open and that ball is going to be there on time.

[Randy Moss]

And it really shows that, you know, not trying to throw it. And Jason, I'm not going to leave you out, my brother. When I look at your game, I looked at more of your game toward the end of your career. And the reason why is because both of you guys, toward the end of your or at the end of your careers, you were playing at a high level. So po. They both. Both basically put the Kelsey brothers together. And I would have to ask Jason, when we talk about gel and when we talk about chemistry throughout your whole career, who is that player? And it probably is going to have to be a guard that.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

That you would say, hey, dude, I would just have to give him this look. And he already know we're going to maul whoever's in front of. Who is that player in your career that you just. It's. It's not even word. It's a look. Who is that player?

[Jason Kelce]

That's tough. I had so many of them. I would say the guy that I knew, like, we didn't even need to communicate. We were just always on the same page is probably Brandon Brooks. Like Brandon Brooks, who he. He only. He won a Super bowl with us, but. And he had a shorter career. He was incredible. He was big, strong, and he had a good feel for the game. He was an athlete playing offensive line.

[Randy Moss]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Kelce]

The best lineman I played with, like Howard Mudd used to teach the game, like, what's pass blocking? He'd be like, how do you play basketball? Just the quarterbacks, the hoop. Just keep him in front of him. Like, coach, I need some more technique. I need you to give me something more than that. Guys that conceptualize the game like that were the most fun to play with. When you play with guys that were too robotic and too much like an offensive lineman and it was harder to adjust to the in game stuff happening, if you know what I mean. Like, I didn't even need to say something to Brandon. He. We just both knew with this guy in this position, the linebacker right there.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

That we were going to hit the block this way.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

Like, why. Why else wouldn't we hit it that way? But another guy you might have to communicate with throughout the week, like, hey, we really need to take this one more vertical. Or hey, you take more of Them. I'm going to push them on top of you because of this backer is going to fall off, off if he's in a stack position on this play.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

But Brandon knew it. Isaac say Molly was another guy that knew that the best field player I ever played with was Jason Peters.

[Randy Moss]

Okay, J.P. okay.

[Jason Kelce]

Okay, J.P. we. We have an alert call. I'm not going to say it because they still use it, but he would alert me that there was edge pressure.

[Randy Moss]

Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

And I'd be looking out there. There's no safety cap. I'm like, man, how does this dude know that this pressure is coming? I'm like, whatever, I'm going out there.

[Randy Moss]

There.

[Jason Kelce]

Sure enough, they bring the nickel, right? There are certain guys that just understand spacing and alignment.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

And those guys were so valuable on game day because they didn't. You didn't need the coaching on the field. They just could go out there and play. And those are the guys that I always gelled with the best for sure. The Lane Johnson. I gotta throw him up there, too. That was like my second brother for a long time in Philadelphia. Like, we got drafted two years after me. We did our whole career together. Still doing his thing out there.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

I just didn't do a lot of communicating with Lane. Lane was more all the way out there on the edge. It was more like you said, guards.

[Randy Moss]

Well, I gotta ask you guys, I know this is Yalls interview, but, you know, I've asked it. I know, Trav. I know everybody's speculating. Jason, you first. I know what I missed when I told. When. When I told the people that, you know, I was going to hang it up and I remember crying and my. My wife. I remember hearing the car door slammed and my daughter and my wife came in and I had to, you know, wipe my face and do all that crazy stuff because I didn't even want to see. I didn't want it. I did not want my wife to see. Like, baby, what's wrong with you? Nothing.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

So I think to my point, to my question, you know, Jason, when it was time for you to call it quits, what's the number one thing in your mind you knew you were going to miss about the game?

[Jason Kelce]

I knew I was going to miss competing and playing and game day. What I didn't know I was gonna miss was the locker room. And everybody tells you you're gonna miss it.

[Randy Moss]

Oh, man.

[Jason Kelce]

But it's hard until you remove from it.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

That you really understand that there ain't anything else that's replicates this. Like, guys from all over the country, you're coming together for a specific task. And yeah, it's just it that ends up being for sure. What I miss the most is just being in the locker room with the guys. And I purposely go back still to try and get that. But, yeah, I think that's the. And then I also miss the regimentedness of it.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

Does that make sense? Like, yeah, I, I mean, I'm happy I don't have it, but I also. There was a. A self. Like, there was a productivity in my own head that I knew every day, I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna lift and I'm gonna watch tape.

[Travis Kelce]

Great.

[Jason Kelce]

And then I'm going to go out and dominate on game day, and I'm going to do it with my boys.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

That's the way I would answer it.

[Randy Moss]

No, that was mine. Because I, I'd say there's all types of things that you could actually say, but I think for mine was the locker room itself. Seeing your brothers, you know, men from different walks of life, that you're coming together for one call. So like I said, for me, Trav, I. You know, the reason why I asked that, because I. Like I said, I know the time is coming. I don't know when, but I know, you know, the time is coming. I don't know if this was the last or if it wasn't, but if there is, if was the last, what do you think that you'll miss most about, you know, the game?

[Travis Kelce]

Man? I think it's just those, Those moments in, In. In the big games, man, the, the feeling of. Of having to. To rise to the occasion, be there for, you know, 70,000 that are all counting on you out there. Outside of just the, the guys that you go to war with, you guys you go to battle with, man, those moments of, Of. Of rising to the occasion in, in the heat of the battle, you know, in the playoffs and, And. And all the big games out there, man, those. That's a feeling that I know I'll never get again. And I think that's. That's. That's something that, you know, those are, Those are the things that you cherish the most. And especially, you know, if. If you're fortunate enough to. To be in the playoffs and. And. And make runs at it, man, the satisfaction that you get and the, the successful feeling you get of all the hard work that you put in, it's finally Paying off. And, and I think that'll, that'll be one of the things I miss the most, man, for sure.

[Randy Moss]

Well, look, I, I, I know we don't, I don't know how much time we got, but mine, you know, from a football standpoint, when we talk about a moment, you know, Jason, you talked about the, you know, the competing part. I had a 14 year career and, you know, I've had a lot of moments, but I think really the 23 touchdowns is I think, the moment. I think the moment for me, because being a kid, Trav, is more like seeing Jerry Rice, I mean, Herman Moore was a big tall receiver that Barry Sanders had in Detroit. Seeing guys like that, that I grew up and then coming into. That's why I was just telling you guys of what it felt to me just seeing Miles Garrett break that single season sack record. Because like I said, it's not an individual thing, but when you have an opportunity to go breaking record, you know, as an individual, that was my, you know, moment, you know, surreal moment for me. Of all the hard work that I put in. Jason, out of your whole career, there's one defining moment for you. Not, not the Eagles, not the media, for you as a ball player. What's your defining moment throughout your professional career that you put your, that you can hang your hat on.

[Jason Kelce]

We had a lot of successful years where running backs had a lot of yards and you kind of take that a little bit bit. Like I'm, I'm, I had something to do with that, right? Like you bring up the, the touchdown record that you hold or, or that you broke. Like there are the great. It is an individual record, but it is kind of a team record too, Right?

[Randy Moss]

No doubt.

[Jason Kelce]

There are other people, and that's the greatest thing about this game.

[Randy Moss]

Right?

[Jason Kelce]

But I would say honestly, for me, I had awful season in 2016. Played like trash, right? Like, almost got cut from Philadelphia. A lot of people don't even remember it. Philadelphians do, probably. But the next year, year, I put a lot of work in. In the off season, I started getting better with my technique, and it was like everything clicked so much better. That year I made my first all Pro.

[Randy Moss]

Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

That, that season following me having just an awful year really catapulted me into what ended up being my career.

[Randy Moss]

Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

This was really the defining moment, was the response I had to almost getting cut. Almost like everybody thinking, I'm on my way out of the league, that I'm gonna go in here, I'm work my Ass off.

[Randy Moss]

Right.

[Jason Kelce]

I studied my technique, got better with my leverage, and I came back, and it was the best year of my career. And we happened to win a shoot bowl on top of it.

[Randy Moss]

Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

So 2017, I was on cloud nine. So I didn't have. I didn't break a touchdown record, but I broke the Jason Kelsey record for office. That's kind of. That's it for me. Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

Okay.

[Travis Kelce]

For me. Oh, man. I'd say the coolest moment was being on the mountaintop with Jason, man. Playing in the super bowl against the. The Eagles the first time and. And being at the super bowl with Jason, having our family kind of get put on a pedestal. Our mom was the NFL mom of the. You know, she was on every TV screen left and right.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

Because her two boys were playing each other in the super bowl, man, that was. When I look back on some of my favorite memories, man, being on the field, both being captains there for the coin toss, looking at each other from across the. The field, man, it's just. It's a memory I'll never forget. And that was definitely the pinnacle, man, the guy that I started doing this thing with when I was 5 years old in the backyard, just throwing the ball around.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't know if I've ever actually. The first touchdown you scored against the Philadelphia Eagles. I know you remember it, Travis.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Was that, like, you taking out an entire frustration of being a younger brother in one moment? We gotta pull up the highlight. This dude caught a shovel pass at, like, the 20.

[Randy Moss]

Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

Went all the way down and jumped like. He lost into the end zone from the five. Jumped into the end zone. I had never seen this, like, 15ft.

[Travis Kelce]

Ready? You know, when you. You get the ball on a fast break and you just see the lane.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

And you're just like, I'm going up. I'm telling you.

[Randy Moss]

Just.

[Jason Kelce]

It was like Jordan, man. Oh, gosh.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. No, 100%. Yeah. That was for getting my ass beat all. All those years when I was younger. I finally had a chance to make it even.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

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[Randy Moss]

I joked with our ESPN Countdown crew, wrecked Alex, Teddy and Granny Chef every week and you know, they sit up here and say, hey man, you look like you can still play. I really believe the way that they change the rules of the game, that I could really still go out there and give a team close to double digit touchdowns. I really still believe I can still, I can still get up on the rim, I can still dunk a basketball. All okay, okay. And so me just being able to go up and, and just use my hand eye coordination and body control, and I think that's one of the biggest things because I sit up here and talk about you got lost every week. And I talk about the DB getting, not getting his hands around and talk about the hand eye coordination that the wide receiver needs. I think that's very important, you know, as you get older, no matter, you know, you know, how old you get. Like, Mike Evans is still, you know, still out here making plays. And you think about it, Mike Evans was not always the fastest wide receiver, but as far as his athletic ability, his hand eye coordination, just put it in, Jason just put it in his vicinity. So to answer your question, I still think I can still go out here and maybe get close to, you know, 10, 11 touchdowns a season.

[Jason Kelce]

Would you be open to it if a team called? Is.

[Randy Moss]

Is Randy answering the phone where I'm at right now? As far as, you know, my, you know, happy Happily married, my kids are thriving and you know, doing our things. I think for me it'll have to be the right call, the right team, because the only thing I'm really missing right now is a Super bowl ring. So if the right call and the right opportunity came and the team gave me an opportunity to come out there, just be a red zone threat, I, I, I could put that 80 fold back on once more time. Let's go, man.

[Jason Kelce]

FBI, are you kidding me, man? You getting me hyped just thinking about

[Travis Kelce]

you doing this, man. This shit's epic, man. Look what Philip Rivers got everybody thinking. We just, just one more. Just one more, baby.

[Randy Moss]

Just one more. Philip Rivers. Everybody around here, he had people like, had Cam Newton cutting up on his podcast. He had everybody around that played the game of football really thinking they could put some WD40 on them joints and still come out here and make something happen.

[Travis Kelce]

So I love it, man. Are there any like, quarterbacks right now that you're like? Man, I, I would, I would go crazy playing with that guy.

[Randy Moss]

Quarterback wise. There's a lot of quarterbacks that I like and the reason why, Pat Travis, just because the game has changed.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh yeah.

[Randy Moss]

You know, so much of, of guys has been in the pocket, but you know, Pat is phenomenal and not just being, just going back there, just slinging the ball. One of the things that you said about your quarterback, and I'm not just saying it because you're, you know, we're sitting on this podcast, I just think that a quarterback being able to buy time for his pass catcher is very important. You, you know, you have guys coming through here like, like Jason, I remember you telling the stories about you going, going against Aaron Donald, you know, all of them all, I mean, guys are so bigger, faster, stronger now in this, in this day and age, in this game and you know, having a quarterback to be able to give you a little bit more time to work your craft is what I look at right now. And I think that if you're just talking about three quarterback, that comes to mind, I love Joe Burrow's game. Game. I love Patrick Mahomes game. And then of course, you know, I think it'll be, you know, a guy like Josh Allen, I love his game. Yeah, but, but like I say, I just think just more of the, of the quarterbacks being able to buy some time because I like to say, you know, you're getting double, you're getting triple. Well, let me work through this double in this triple coverage. And like I say, Trav You've done it plenty of times. So answer your question. I think those three guys really stand off the charts right now.

[Jason Kelce]

That'd be a good one right there.

[Travis Kelce]

Is it true you never stressed on game day?

[Randy Moss]

The thing about stretching on game day was this. And hopefully, you guys can definitely attest to this. It's kind of more like getting down and touching your ankles or, you know, loosen your hamstrings up. That's not the stretch that I meant. Meaning that if I see you across the room from me, Trav, and you're sitting over there bumping in your headphones, well, I'm a bump with you. Then all of a sudden, we gonna start jumping around before we know we're both sweating that. So. So basically, that's what I meant, that I don't stretch on game day. I rely on my brothers to help me stretch. So it's just more, you know, the jumping around that we do all the. You know. Well, I mean, some guys have a little false enthusiasm in there, but like I say, it's just more of getting around your brothers and, you know, us, you know, bringing. Bringing the energy out of one another.

[Travis Kelce]

Energy, baby.

[Randy Moss]

That's my.

[Travis Kelce]

You got to do it together, too, man. Man, it's. It's.

[Randy Moss]

Can't.

[Travis Kelce]

You can't just let one guy try and be it, man. Everybody's got to bring it. We got one more for you, though, big dog, and then we'll let you get out of here. As someone who's perfected the lateral, I've taken notes from. From the legends of this game. You have one of the most iconic football plays of all time. Can you walk us through that whole play? Was that, like, a designed situation or.

[Randy Moss]

No, it was really. We. We. We actually. We were playing the Broncos at home. And I remember, you know, of course, the last play, and I think that at the time, my quarterback, Dante. Dante always had a strong arm, but I think in that case, I don't think that Dante could have got it to the end zone from where we were. So he rode out to the right, and I remember that it was more like just. Just a hail Mary.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah.

[Randy Moss]

And so he throws the ball, and I get up and catch it. And the one thing about it, you know, being a pass catcher. Travis, like, we have to decide kind of like at the last minute, do we want to hands it or do we want to body it. So it was more like in the situation, the ball was hanging in the air a little too long, and I said, what do I do here? So, basically, I bodied the ball, I got up, I bodied it. So when I came down, out the side of my peripheral, I see a purple jersey. So.

[Travis Kelce]

And now we're on the court and now I see that's the, you know,

[Randy Moss]

the, you know, the. So like I said, man, anytime I see that play, it's. It's kind of like 11 guys, you know, playing heads of football. Because like Jason, you said it's not the moment, it's everybody doing their job. So yes, I know that I got the, you know, recognition from throwing it on my head. But Jason, where would I be if you got guys. My offensive line at the time would not have held it up for Dante. The, the offensive line, the running backs protected. Like I say, a lot of the things that we accomplish, you know, on the football field has to do with 10 other guys. That's why I've never, you know, I've never ever singled myself out as an individual. No matter what the play looks like. I know that 10 other guys have to do their job for me to accomplish mine.

[Travis Kelce]

Iconic dog.

[Jason Kelce]

There's been a lot of 10 other guys accomplishing jobs in the NFL. Nobody has ever lateraled a ball like that

[Travis Kelce]

and nobody ever played the game like Randy Moss, baby. Randy, thank you so much for joining us, dog.

[Randy Moss]

I do not want to get crazy on this, the ending of this show, but to let you guys know what being on this show really means to me, you already know what I was battling, you know, throughout, you know, my cancer and, and just coming up on my one year anniversary, Ricky, I told you guys about my brother and what, you know, my brother went to Ohio State. My brother ended up dying. I went to the hall of fame in 2018. All right? My brother passed away in 2019. And you know, things wasn't, you know, great as the relationship. When I tell you guys, when I look at you guys and, and see the things you guys love in your relationship, it's a. When I say that I get jealous about it. It's not a jealousy, jealousy, it's more on that I wish I would have had that type of relationship with my brother. And, and the reason why I'm telling you this because I, I remember after one of, after Yalls game, Trav, you came up and kissed your big brother on the cheek. You remember that?

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, yeah, I remember.

[Randy Moss]

There's anybody in all of sports history, football, basketball, anything that really felt that brotherly love. Hey, hey, you guys. Where is it at, y'? All? Give me something, man.

[Travis Kelce]

I love you, dog.

[Randy Moss]

Hey, congratulations on your Success, man. This podcast in your career, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Much love to you.

[Travis Kelce]

God damn, man. What a just a special dude, man.

[Jason Kelce]

The best. The absolute best.

[Travis Kelce]

He's so down to earth and so just himself, man. And he's always just being the most giving person, you know, I mean if I. He's. He's the most a shirt off your back kind of guy, man. And we gotta get you. We gotta catch some fish with the big guy. I just started getting into the old wildlife man, and fishing is one of those things. Bass fishing specifically, I haven't really done.

[Jason Kelce]

I've done a bunch of fly fishing. As you know, Travis, bass fishing is one thing that I've never done. Everybody raves about it. Even fly fisher fishermen, they'll talk about taking poppers down and hitting the bass. Especially like in June, July, once they start coming up, water gets getting warmer. You do some top water fishing and they really attack it. Apparently it's a lot of fun. So would love. I mean I jump at the chance to bring catch some fish with Randy Moss. You think Randy's ever mossed a fish?

[Travis Kelce]

Straight cash, homie.

[Jason Kelce]

Come on now.

[Travis Kelce]

I don't even got a stretch on game day. All right, well, appreciate Randy Moss for jumping in. Now we got to get to some no Dumb questions for you 9092 percenters and all right now before we get out of here, it's time for a special edition of no Dumb Questions, brought to you by Hill's Pet Nutrition.

[Jason Kelce]

We've received a 92 percenter submission asking us how we would field a football team with dog breeds. And we partnered with Hills to make our picks from Ryan Lutch,949. Okay, anyways, episode two of asking no Dumb Questions from Northeast Ohio. Hey, shout out to Northeast Ohio.

[Randy Moss]

Wow.

[Jason Kelce]

Which dog breed best describes you guys? One for on field and one for off field. And the follow up with all of these players as dogs or cats because, well, players as dogs, players as dogs, players as breeds of dogs. All right, where are we starting with this?

[Producer/Host]

Since Hills knows there's no such things as I'm questioned, especially about pets. Let's start with the first question. What is your on field dog breed?

[Jason Kelce]

Are we repeating this or are you just asking?

[Producer/Host]

I'm asking you. This is going to go in.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm just going to help.

[Producer/Host]

I'm going to walk us through this one.

[Jason Kelce]

What dog breed is me on the field and what dog is.

[Producer/Host]

Who is Jason Kelce on the field

[Jason Kelce]

as a dog off field, I feel like I'm a Bloodhound. Just like that bloodhound on the porch with his lips sagging over the sides of his teeth, like, just not moving. Unless he smells something and then he's getting after it and it's time to work.

[Travis Kelce]

No chance.

[Producer/Host]

You're so active.

[Travis Kelce]

That's what I'm saying. You have way too much all over Italy. There's no way.

[Jason Kelce]

Look at what you're wearing. That's when I smell. That's when I smell something. I'm in. When I get a scent, I'm active.

[Producer/Host]

You're getting a lot of sense. You are getting a lot of sense.

[Jason Kelce]

I got a good sense of smell.

[Producer/Host]

Okay, okay, I'll buy it.

[Randy Moss]

All right.

[Producer/Host]

You talk. You've kind of talked to me like half into it. It's fine. Still, you are not. You present so much lazier than you actually are.

[Travis Kelce]

You are so busy.

[Jason Kelce]

You can ask Kylie. Ky. Kylie, Kylie. Am I lazy? Am I lazy? Am I lazy?

[Travis Kelce]

See, she said no. She said no.

[Randy Moss]

No.

[Travis Kelce]

She said no. You're a hard working man.

[Randy Moss]

You are.

[Producer/Host]

You are not a.

[Travis Kelce]

You're not sitting on the porch waiting for a scent. No, you're a go getter. You're out there hunting. You're out there hunting.

[Producer/Host]

All right, who's. Who's Travis Kelce?

[Jason Kelce]

Travis Kelsey Seat. Off the field, I mean, it's got to be like a golden retriever, right? It's like, just like.

[Producer/Host]

I buy that.

[Jason Kelce]

All American freaking great personality. Everybody loves them.

[Producer/Host]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

Like to be active. They'll play fetch.

[Travis Kelce]

They'll play some fetch.

[Producer/Host]

You throw a ball. Travis going to go get it.

[Travis Kelce]

Hairy as. Yeah, I can see that shedding.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

On the field. Which one are we going first? Travis.

[Producer/Host]

Yeah, on the field, Travis.

[Randy Moss]

Who is he?

[Travis Kelce]

I don't. Damn it. Does it change breeds, man? It definitely changes. Nice. On the field, I feel like I'm still pretty friendly, but I'm a competitive.

[Jason Kelce]

Good ball skills.

[Producer/Host]

You're still kind of like. Yeah, you're an active, active one.

[Jason Kelce]

So we in the retrievers category or

[Producer/Host]

like a short haired pointer?

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, you kind of. You kind of threw out the Irish wolfhound out there. And I, at first I said no because I didn't think they had good hips because I got really good hips.

[Jason Kelce]

Dude, they can run.

[Travis Kelce]

They can run. They got some viciousness to them.

[Jason Kelce]

They're not big ball skills. They're really not vicious at all. Unless you're a groundhog.

[Travis Kelce]

Okay, well, that's the only time I've. I've only seen them out there. Were playing.

[Jason Kelce]

No, they. They're not interested in chasing balls.

[Travis Kelce]

You gotta love that as a tight end. You have to love. You gotta love the chasing, the balls.

[Jason Kelce]

You gotta be willing to do the dirty work.

[Producer/Host]

What about, like, a German shepherd?

[Travis Kelce]

I mean, Sherman shepherds could get huge,

[Jason Kelce]

but they're not that big.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. I'm not. I'm not like the Gronks and the Jimmy Grahams of the world. You know what I mean? Like, those guys are, like, three inches taller than me.

[Producer/Host]

You're six' four and seven eights.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

I feel like you're a Great Pyrenees on the field. Oh, they're like herd protection. Dog dogs. Right. So I'll put them out with the flock in case any wolves get nearby. So get physical.

[Producer/Host]

I'll give you Great Pyrenees.

[Travis Kelce]

I like Great Pyrenees, and I'm a team guy. And they run in packs.

[Jason Kelce]

That's right.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean.

[Travis Kelce]

All right, I'll take a Great Pyrenees.

[Producer/Host]

Great Pyrenees. Because they also, like, from a distance, can kind of give you a lab look. They're just much bigger. I like that.

[Jason Kelce]

Yes, yes.

[Producer/Host]

They're friendly as, too, everybody. Well, no, they can.

[Jason Kelce]

I think they can be.

[Producer/Host]

They can.

[Jason Kelce]

They can. They can be, but they're also, like, they were bred to protect.

[Travis Kelce]

Where? The Pyrenees mountains.

[Producer/Host]

Now we're way sidetracked.

[Jason Kelce]

Are there Pyrenees mountains?

[Travis Kelce]

That's why they're the Pyrenees.

[Jason Kelce]

Oh, didn't know that.

[Producer/Host]

Southwest Europe between France and Spain.

[Travis Kelce]

There you go.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah. All right.

[Producer/Host]

Who's Jason on the field?

[Travis Kelce]

Jason on the field.

[Producer/Host]

What dog is Jason on the field?

[Travis Kelce]

Dude, he's a special breed o line. So it's like you got to have. I don't know what dog. See, I don't know dog breeds like this. I need help.

[Producer/Host]

I'll do a mastiff. I like a mastiff.

[Jason Kelce]

Feel like a commodore protector. It's got to be another herding dog

[Producer/Host]

trying to look at the herd. I'm looking at the herding group here. What about a Belgian Malinois?

[Jason Kelce]

Not bad.

[Randy Moss]

Herding.

[Travis Kelce]

Why do we want a herding?

[Jason Kelce]

Like, you're an offensive lineman. You're kind of like you're in the protection realm.

[Producer/Host]

Yeah, I buy that.

[Jason Kelce]

But there's, like, herding dogs, like, you can't be as. As athletic as the Great Pyrenees. Oh, have you ever heard of. Oh, my gosh. It looks like a. It looks like a lion. It might be called something. A lion? African Chow.

[Travis Kelce]

Chow.

[Jason Kelce]

No, it's like an African.

[Travis Kelce]

It looks like a lion.

[Jason Kelce]

I think it's called something African. Maybe it was Alaskan.

[Travis Kelce]

Something with an A. I'm thinking, like, something that isn't, like, overly, like, athletic, just, like, is gonna stand its ground.

[Producer/Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Travis Kelce]

I'm gonna protect the house. You know what I mean?

[Jason Kelce]

Tibetan mastiff.

[Producer/Host]

Tibetan mastiff.

[Jason Kelce]

You ever seen them suckers?

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah, that's a big boy. Yeah, I can see it. Oh, man.

[Producer/Host]

That's a Jason Dub dog. Look at that guy.

[Jason Kelce]

Trying to figure out the hairy one.

[Producer/Host]

Look at that guy. That's a Jason.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Ancient guard dog. Hell, yeah. That's that guy right there.

[Producer/Host]

That's Jason Kelsey pulling around the edge. That's Jason Kelsey. Tibetan master. Let's go.

[Travis Kelce]

I knew it was some sort of mastiff. I knew I was on the right track.

[Jason Kelce]

All right, where are we at?

[Randy Moss]

We can.

[Producer/Host]

We can click.

[Randy Moss]

What's.

[Producer/Host]

What's the rest of a football team? What are we looking for in a quarterback?

[Jason Kelce]

Quarterback back. You want a good leader.

[Travis Kelce]

See, that's the. That's that German shepherd.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, I was about to say German shepherd. I would say border collie, but I don't know that has the size. Border collar would be a good safety.

[Producer/Host]

I think border collie is safety or defensive back.

[Jason Kelce]

You see him go after the freaking Frisbees. Like, they're very good in space.

[Producer/Host]

Because I was also thinking Jack Russell on defense, too.

[Jason Kelce]

Jack Russell.

[Randy Moss]

Yeah.

[Producer/Host]

No, they're scrappy. No, they're scrappy little guys. Put him at.

[Jason Kelce]

Where else are they going?

[Producer/Host]

What do you mean?

[Jason Kelce]

Where else would you put them?

[Producer/Host]

Oh, I'm not putting them on offense.

[Jason Kelce]

Defense. No, on defense

[Producer/Host]

or like in your nickel?

[Jason Kelce]

I would say maybe a nickel. Maybe play outside. Jack Russell. Terry, it's like a little small dog.

[Producer/Host]

The dog from the mask.

[Jason Kelce]

I think they were bred to like, hunt mice.

[Producer/Host]

Maybe they will wreck some mice.

[Travis Kelce]

I don't know. I love those dogs. Those dogs don't. They don't need to be on the football field.

[Producer/Host]

Oh, wow. No, I'm telling you, they play. They play bigger than theirselves.

[Travis Kelce]

Who are they guarding?

[Producer/Host]

Who's. Our wide receivers. What recipe? Okay, so if we're going German shepherd. German shepherd, quarterback. What are you putting out there, white out greyhounds.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah. Only thing with greyhounds is they don't have great ball skills.

[Travis Kelce]

Dobermans.

[Jason Kelce]

I was going to say Dobermans are DNS. Right.

[Producer/Host]

They got that big chest on them, too.

[Jason Kelce]

It could be linebackers maybe.

[Producer/Host]

Could be linebackers.

[Travis Kelce]

It feels like more of a defensive position. I kind of like Doberman feels like a defensive dog.

[Jason Kelce]

Right.

[Producer/Host]

So who's your Wide outs.

[Jason Kelce]

I want a Belgian Malinois as all my linebackers.

[Producer/Host]

They're very good dogs.

[Travis Kelce]

I like border collies at corner.

[Producer/Host]

Border collies at corner. That's good.

[Jason Kelce]

I don't think they got speed.

[Travis Kelce]

Border collies, bro, they fucking fly.

[Jason Kelce]

Not compared to like a taller dog to.

[Travis Kelce]

They fucking fly.

[Producer/Host]

They can move. Border collies can move.

[Jason Kelce]

They can move, but I think they're more safety, movement. I don't think the corners got to be like the fastest dog breed.

[Travis Kelce]

So what are you putting there?

[Jason Kelce]

That's where your greyhounds come in. Or greyhounds might be too. They might not be agile enough.

[Travis Kelce]

That's what I'm saying, that thing.

[Producer/Host]

Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Okay. Have you met a greyhound?

[Randy Moss]

No.

[Producer/Host]

Greyhounds don't have that dog in them. They're very skittish.

[Travis Kelce]

Never met a greyhound. I've been on the greyhound owned so many times, though.

[Producer/Host]

Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Travis Kelce]

Love the bus.

[Producer/Host]

Okay, where are we at? What about running back? What do you want at running back?

[Jason Kelce]

Linebacker's gotta be Belgium.

[Travis Kelce]

What's the one? Not the German shepherd, but there's another dog breed that is unbelievable. More athletic than a shepherd, but a little bit vizsla.

[Jason Kelce]

Vizslas are my corners. Those things can haul ass. They're agile, as am I. Even putting wide out.

[Producer/Host]

Ooh, that's a good choice.

[Travis Kelce]

Vizla with the it at wide out.

[Randy Moss]

Whip.

[Producer/Host]

It's like your Darren Sprouls kind of line up with a lot of places. Little kind of sneak in. I want to throw.

[Jason Kelce]

What kind of offense are we running if we're on a Shanahan style offense? I'll put a whip at a running back and it'll get yards.

[Producer/Host]

Okay, so we've got quarterback, we got running. Wait, did you sign on running backs?

[Jason Kelce]

We did not say running back.

[Producer/Host]

Running backs. Okay.

[Jason Kelce]

I'm trying to think of a dog that has that mentality. I mean, maybe we're putting Doberman on defense, right?

[Producer/Host]

Yeah, Doberman's on defense.

[Jason Kelce]

Border collie wouldn't be a bad running back.

[Producer/Host]

Border collie is not a bad. But I feel like I want border collie going out.

[Jason Kelce]

I can see border collie ever so receiver. They're like the number one Frisbee dogs on the planet. Yeah, Gotta be receiver.

[Producer/Host]

What about Rhodesian ridgeback? Is that too big? Throwing power with him? Weimeriner's not a bad one either. You also have the Australian shepherd. You could run the Australian shepherd out of your backfield. Keep the border collie on defense. Australian shepherd's what you want out of the backfield.

[Jason Kelce]

It's too pretty.

[Producer/Host]

Running backs can be pretty. Oh, Jake just said Dalmatian for running back. I don't love that.

[Travis Kelce]

Ew.

[Producer/Host]

Yeah. That's why Jake's not invited to this Australian cattle dog.

[Jason Kelce]

Dog.

[Producer/Host]

Kind of another, like, herding breed low to the ground.

[Jason Kelce]

I just. I feel he's got to be a little bit bigger.

[Producer/Host]

You're on one power out of this thing.

[Jason Kelce]

What's the blue healer?

[Producer/Host]

Ooh, I'll do a blue heel.

[Jason Kelce]

It's not a bad.

[Producer/Host]

I'll do a blue healer.

[Randy Moss]

No.

[Producer/Host]

What about, like, dogs that are sled pullers? What, like a husky or a Malamute?

[Jason Kelce]

Husky's not a bad choice.

[Producer/Host]

I don't hate husky. I mean, I think that's the team. Boys, I think we got it.

[Jason Kelce]

Do we sit one of our D tackles? We didn't do detail.

[Producer/Host]

Ooh, D tackles. Yeah. Maybe that's your chow.

[Jason Kelce]

I mean, that's got to be your big. Just fat freaking.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah. Saint Bernard.

[Jason Kelce]

Saint Bernard was the thing. I was thinking, too. Beethoven just drooling and getting freaking slobber all over the place.

[Producer/Host]

St. Bernard.

[Travis Kelce]

Yeah.

[Producer/Host]

Defensive tackle. I think we're good. That's our team.

[Jason Kelce]

It's not a bad team.

[Producer/Host]

Okay, I'm being asked to recap the team real quick. Sorry. At quarterback, we had German Shepherd. Running back. We did husky. Let's do a sledding dog. Our wide receivers, what we throw out there, that was our border collie. Border collie.

[Travis Kelce]

Didn't we say the greyhounds?

[Jason Kelce]

I thought we said greyhounds. Don't it have good ball skills? We could do both greyhounds. And we have one greyhound, one border collie.

[Producer/Host]

There you go.

[Travis Kelce]

Border collie for sure, though.

[Jason Kelce]

Got a greyhound to take the roof off the thing. But then border collie can freaking run all the routes.

[Travis Kelce]

Good call.

[Randy Moss]

Good call.

[Producer/Host]

Running the crossing routes. Crossing routes with the border collie.

[Jason Kelce]

We can all look the same.

[Producer/Host]

Yeah. Tight ends. What we have.

[Jason Kelce]

Great Pyrenees.

[Producer/Host]

Great Pyrenees. All right, one minute in here. Defensive tackle, St. Bernard. Defensive ends, we had our Dobermans. Linebackers were Malinois. Safety, Border collie.

[Jason Kelce]

V's at corner.

[Producer/Host]

V at corner. Okay, that's team.

[Travis Kelce]

Up there singing the National.

[Jason Kelce]

Yeah, you tell me. Watching the Olympics.

[Producer/Host]

And that is our time to wrap the segment.

[Travis Kelce]

Oh, we're just getting started.

[Jason Kelce]

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[Travis Kelce]

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[Jason Kelce]

All right, and that's it for this episode of New Heights. Thank you to Randy Moss. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights on the Wondery app wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining Wondering plus in the wonder re app or on Apple podcasts.

[Travis Kelce]

All right, now, once again, New Heights is a wondry show brought to you by Expedia. The place you go to go places. That's right, the place you go to lock in all the places that you want to go. Follow the show on all social media, add new height show with 1s for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to our New Heights production team. We appreciate you guys more than we could ever say. And to the 92 percenters, we sure love you guys for listening to us, laughing at us. Thank you.

[Jason Kelce]

Randy came on and we talked to him about the Internet story, the infamous giving you the nickname Edelnut. And he gave us a little more information. He said he was actually on the phone with his mother and you were swearing and that's why he called you because you were being a little. Were you swearing in front of Mrs. Moss?

[Randy Moss]

Let me clarify this story. This is on Christmas. Christmas day.

[Jason Kelce]

Yes, yes.

[Randy Moss]

We're in a locker room. It's Christmas, you know, early day, no post meetings. We get to go have a good dinner with the boys. Everyone's jolly in the locker room. I go to Randy, I go, hey, Randy. And I can hear he's talking to his mom. I said, tell mama Ma I said, merry Christmas. Randy goes to me and he goes, edelna, if you ever talk to me while I'm talking to my mom, I will slap the out of you or something. And I'm a rookie. I was so scared. I was like, oh, man, I just disappointed him on Christmas. I probably was cussing. I'm sorry, Mrs. Moss, if you heard any cuss words.