Sandler Returns, Baker Mayfield's Unfinished Business, NFLPA Debacles & Pretty Woman Review | EP 149

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce | Episode 149

Episode Title: Sandler Returns, Baker Mayfield's Unfinished Business, NFLPA Debacles & Pretty Woman Review
Release Date: July 23, 2025

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1. NFL News

Training Camp Updates

The episode kicks off with updates from the NFL, focusing on the Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles as they enter their training camps.

Travis Kelce shares his excitement about the Chiefs' offseason improvements:

"[02:22] Jason Kelsey: How about that?"
"[24:17] Travis Kelce: I think we're all along those lines, man. Yeah..."

Both brothers discuss the depth of their teams, emphasizing the return of key players and the addition of new talent aimed at boosting team performance for the upcoming season.

NFLPA Executive Director Resignation

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the recent resignation of Lloyd Howell, the NFLPA's Executive Director, following reports of misuse of union funds.

Jason Kelce addresses the issue:

"[32:07] Jason Kelsey: The employees googled the Miami Gardens address and discovered it was Tootsie's Cabaret..."

Travis Kelce adds his perspective:

"[36:32] Travis Kelce: We pay our dues to the union. And this is what... It's being used for Wings. It's being used for wings in the VIP room."

The Kelce brothers critique the decision to hold union business meetings at a strip club, questioning the appropriateness and potential impact on upcoming contract negotiations with the league.

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2. Guest Appearance: Adam Sandler

Happy Gilmore 2 Discussion

A highlight of the episode is the return of Adam Sandler, fondly referred to as "The Sandman," who joins the Kelce brothers to discuss the much-anticipated sequel, Happy Gilmore 2.

Adam Sandler reminisces about his experiences filming the sequel:

"[06:27] Travis Kelce: All right, man."
"[07:07] Adam Sandler: Yeah, you were cool. As Travis was locked in, he had to kind of be a bad guy."

The conversation delves into behind-the-scenes anecdotes, including cameo appearances by Travis's father and interactions with other cast members. The guests express their enthusiasm for the film's release, set for July 25th, and reflect on the camaraderie during production.

Notable Quote:

"[07:25] Johnson Sandler: All right, that was just like the one recording Carly's not on and we fucking immediately go that direction."

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3. New Heights Film Club: Pretty Woman Review

The Kelce brothers host their segment, New Heights Film Club, where they review the classic 1990s film Pretty Woman.

Travis Kelce offers his insights:

"[47:49] Travis Kelce: It's a fun movie to follow along with."

Jason Kelce elaborates on the film's themes:

"[48:16] Jason Kelce: I really like how it shows the difference in classes... they just are different and people come from different ones..."

They discuss character development, the portrayal of class differences, and the movie's romantic elements, concluding that Pretty Woman effectively balances romance and humor while addressing deeper societal themes.

Notable Quote:

"[53:17] Jason Kelce: Like a little bit of jealousy. Good thing."

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4. Fan Mentions

Lawn Art and Jake's Tattoo

Fans contribute creative content, including impressive lawn art and plans for tattoos inspired by their favorite players.

Travis Kelce highlights a fan's unique lawn art:

"[39:26] Jason Kelsey: It's pretty sick."
"[40:06] Jason Kelce: I'm telling you. He, I, I have been in contact personally with the guy."

Regarding Jake's upcoming pinup tattoo, the hosts engage in a humorous discussion:

"[42:04] Travis Kelce: Got till Thursday."
"[43:00] Jason Kelsey: Well, that's a good fake stripper name."

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5. Heights Hotline: Listener Questions

Listeners call in with various questions, including one about proposing. The hosts provide playful and thoughtful advice, blending humor with genuine support.

Notable Interaction:

"[73:30] Baker Mayfield: I will say it's also like, it's a little flattering..."
"[73:40] Jason Kelsey: How do we resolve this? Please call us back..."

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6. Interview with Baker Mayfield

The interview segment features Baker Mayfield, the starting quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker discusses his transition to Tampa Bay, team dynamics, and his experiences during crucial moments of his career.

Season Outlook and Team Dynamics

Baker Mayfield expresses optimism about the Buccaneers' prospects:

"[80:00] Baker Mayfield: So, like, we have all of our starters back on offense..."
"[84:03] Baker Mayfield: Yeah, it was hard to see how many tackles he's going to miss or make miss."

He highlights the depth of the team, the return of key offensive players, and the energy brought by new additions, indicating a strong potential for the upcoming season.

Career Rewind: Texas Tech vs. OU

Baker recounts his college journey, including his decision to transfer from Texas Tech to Oklahoma:

"[102:14] Baker Mayfield: I used to keep a list. It's a lot, a lot of anger to pin to this..."
"[103:31] Jason Kelsey: How can we fix the quarterback situation in Cleveland?"

He reflects on overcoming challenges, maintaining his authentic self amidst changing coaching strategies, and the pivotal moments that led to his current success.

Notable Quote:

"[104:06] Jason Kelsey: You know, I'm a team guy..."
"[108:07] Baker Mayfield: I love him to death."

Special Moments and Anecdotes

Baker shares memorable incidents, such as his iconic plays and interactions with teammates:

"[125:14] Baker Mayfield: So, like, my first time back to LCK as a player was crazy..."
"[126:46] Baker Mayfield: I would have gotten a nice football house for the fellas."

His stories emphasize teamwork, resilience, and the importance of a supportive team environment.

Final Thoughts:

Travis Kelce wraps up the interview with lighthearted banter:

"[130:14] Jason Kelsey: What is a Baker Mayfield Taco? What's your favorite? Go to kind of taco?"
"[131:40] Travis Kelce: Yeah, and everybody's healthy down there in Tampa, man."

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Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with Jess and Travis Kelce thanking their guests, Adam Sandler and Baker Mayfield, and promoting upcoming episodes and the next NFL season kickoff on August 27th. They also encourage listeners to subscribe on various platforms to stay updated with future content.

Final Quote:

"[132:02] Jason Kelce: Quick shout out to Adam Sandler and Baker Mayfield for joining us on this episode. ... Can't wait to jump off another stage."

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Conclusion

Episode 149 of New Heights offers a blend of NFL updates, celebrity interviews, film reviews, and engaging listener interactions. The Kelce brothers provide a comprehensive and entertaining overview of the latest in football, coupled with humorous and heartfelt discussions that resonate with both fans and casual listeners alike.

Transcript

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Join Wondery in the Wondery app, Apple podcasts or Spotify today. Pretty woman walking down the street Pretty woman the one I like to meet.

[Travis Kelsey]

Pretty woman I wanna know you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I have no idea what those wor. It's a great tune though.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's a banger.

[Jason Kelsey]

Was that song made specifically for that movie?

[Travis Kelsey]

That movie was in the 90s. That song was from like the 60s, 70s or something.

[Jason Kelsey]

No chance that song is from the 60s. What? 64?

[Travis Kelsey]

Damn.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's not Roy Overson. Is that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Look at this. This dude's. He's got it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is that real?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes. I love when I show Jason the result of a search and he tells me, no, you're wrong.

[Jason Kelsey]

So they name the mov. Just knowing they were going to use.

[Travis Kelsey]

That song, knowing that that was going to be the song that they tied everything to. Transition. Yeah, when she transitioned from looking like a stripper into looking like a.

[Jason Kelsey]

That montage.

[Travis Kelsey]

Classy lady.

[Jason Kelsey]

I've seen a lot of great montages. Rocky, Balboa, Rambo. And as much as I like seeing guys shot up, seeing Julia Roberts get all done up and then go back to the woman that shoot her away the day before. So do you work on commission? Big mistake. That was a baller movie. That was a baller movie.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was a banger.

[Jason Kelsey]

Welcome back to new hide so wondery show produced by Wave sports and entertainment and brought to you by General Mills favorite cereal branch.

[Travis Kelsey]

I wanted that to land so bad.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought that was great. That didn't hit. I thought that was really good.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was terrible. Welcome back to new Heights, ladies and gentlemen. A wonder show produced by Wave Sports and entertainment and brought to you by General Mills favorite cereal brands.

[Jason Kelsey]

How about that?

[Travis Kelsey]

We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. My big brother Jason. Kelsey.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey.

[Travis Kelsey]

Out of Cleveland Heights.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, how.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's right. Cincinnati Bear cats taking on the Huskers at the nip.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, not the dip. Not the dip at Arrowhead.

[Travis Kelsey]

The other.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's a jiha.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, there is. Subscribe on YouTube Wonder plus wherever you get your podcast to follow the show at new heights show with one that's for fun clips throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up on this amazing episode.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, we got another good of a one for United Super Centers this season.

[Travis Kelsey]

Knew it is over.

[Jason Kelsey]

Season three is officially in the books. We are on the final episode, the finale if you will.

[Travis Kelsey]

Man, we had some bangers. We Had a. We had a bunch of fun guests, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's kind of unreal how many unbelievable guests we've had on the show.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude. And we got another one today. We're ending it with an amazing guest.

[Jason Kelsey]

We've been waiting to get him on. We've been hoping he would come onto the show for a long time. He's been ducking us.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's been ducking us.

[Jason Kelsey]

We finally caught him when he didn't have anything better to do. Baker Mayfield is on the show right after to the start of this thing. You're not going to want to miss it. One of the best personalities in professional sports, period. The quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is going to join us later on in this episode. Before we get to that, though, we are going to get to our review of Pretty Woman with the New Heights Film Club. And also we're going to start with, of course, some new news from across the world. All right now, New News is brought to you by American Express. We've got a special edition of New News. Take a look at this. It's pretty awesome.

[Adam Sandler]

What's up, the boys? I miss you.

[Travis Kelsey]

The Sandman.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yes.

[Adam Sandler]

You guys are doing all right, eh?

[Jason Kelsey]

We're doing good.

[Travis Kelsey]

We're enjoying the life, man. This is my last week of freedom, man, before I'm back in the. In the grind.

[Jason Kelsey]

You.

[Adam Sandler]

It's about time, buddy. I've been seeing little things of you both looking happy.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're.

[Adam Sandler]

You're.

[Baker Mayfield]

You.

[Adam Sandler]

You golfing? Jason's was in underwear that was filled. Filled to the brim with a beautiful hog. A beautiful.

[Travis Kelsey]

The old bald eagle, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Had to go with the extra small, but it got in there.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was.

[Adam Sandler]

It seemed like it was doing just fine, man. When I'm in a fucking. When I'm in a fucking wetsuit. Holy shit. It's humiliating, guys. Your dad. Your dad did good in the movie. He's all over it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I cannot wait, man. This is going to be so epic, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

When you told me that at the Super Bowl, I was so excited. I'm like, oh, yes, Big Ed, big edge.

[Adam Sandler]

And literally, I. I think 15, maybe, maybe 20 shots. Every time we cut to somebody, I see Big Ed real sipping coffee. I. Oh, he looking good.

[Travis Kelsey]

He was. He was in it, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Way to go, Pop.

[Travis Kelsey]

He was in it just over your shoulder at the dinner. That was epic, man. Appreciate you letting the big guy get in on that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is. Is Bagel still around? Where's Bagel?

[Adam Sandler]

Is. Bagel is comfortably laying in the house with the. With the humidity. We keep him. We keep him in the house.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ac. Nice. Enjoy some good ac. It's a luxury living right there for.

[Adam Sandler]

Yes, he's doing very well.

[Jason Kelsey]

Good.

[Adam Sandler]

You know, Bagel's name used to be Pablo. When we first bought him, I let him know that yester I said, we changed your name. And Bagel stared at me like I was Pablo. Are you kidding me? You took that from me, you motherfucker.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. Is Bagel in. Is Bagel in the new Happy Gilmore? Happy Gilmore, too? Did he make your appearance?

[Adam Sandler]

Is Bagel in Happy Gilmore too? I don't think so. I don't think he got in there, man. He tried, but he was asking crazy money. Crazy. He was asking for Travis money. I was like, calm the.

[Jason Kelsey]

That. All right, New News. New News is brought to you by American Express. We've got a special edition of New News.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Here to help us is the stars of Happy Gilmore 2. That's right. Well, he's the main star. He's the. He's the guy. He's happy. He is Adam Sandler. Whoa.

[Adam Sandler]

I think it's equal, man. Me and Travis are pretty equal, buddy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fair enough. Sorry. Travis Kelsey, also star of Happy Gilmore too.

[Adam Sandler]

Yes. A handsome star. A stud. You should have seen him.

[Travis Kelsey]

So much fun doing that, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

He did good, Jason.

[Adam Sandler]

He was so cool. He was just like you. Just like you, announcing. You guys just go, all right, if I'm doing this, I might as well be great at this.

[Jason Kelsey]

Anyways.

[Adam Sandler]

Yeah, you were cool. As Travis was locked in, he had to kind of be a bad guy. And he was just there.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was the perfect remedy, man. It was the perfect remedy. It was just so much fun hearing. Hearing the role and then Adam helping me, like, find the role on set. And then just like, it took me a second to actually. Because looking at Bad Bunny in a scene, it's hilarious. It's hilarious. Bad Bunny is just naturally funny as I don't know if people aren't around him enough, they're going to find out in Happy Gilmore, too, how funny this guy really is.

[Adam Sandler]

You two guys were amazing together. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Adam Sandler]

He was so sweet. And you were. You had to be a little bit of a house to him, man. And you, and you.

[Travis Kelsey]

You.

[Adam Sandler]

You didn't like doing it because you love the guy.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love to. You already know.

[Adam Sandler]

You had to be mean to Bonito. But we got it done and you look cool and. And I gotta tell you, Travis. How tall are you, Travis? Six. Five.

[Travis Kelsey]

Six. Five. Yeah.

[Adam Sandler]

The six five of you is Gonna. It's definitely gonna look. Make Benito nervous. It look cool.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, man, that was so much freaking fun, man. And we got Big Ed in there, man. You were kind enough to let my dad throw on a gold jacket and have some fun, man.

[Adam Sandler]

Yeah, your dad was smooth as hell. I was telling you guys. He's in loads of shots. Every. I think it's when you cut to either me or Lee Trevino, you see, and he's always right in the shot, looking cool as hell, looking like a. A proud member of the Gold Jacket club. He. I don't know what year your father in the movie won. Won the gold jacket, but he. He wore it proudly, and he was cool as hell.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh, it was so epic to be. Not only to be in the sequel, but to be in it with Lee Trevino, who was really the only golfer that was in the first one.

[Adam Sandler]

Yeah, that. That's so funny, fellas. When we did the first one, we were goofy. We were young and goofy, and I think we wanted. We talked about other golfers being in it, and we did the movie for Universal. We would mention it to them. Could you maybe get so and so. And they'd be like. He said, no. No. Everybody said no. We were like, oh, okay. And then Lee Trevino, out of nowhere, he said he'd be in our movie. And he. And he did it. And. And then 30 years later, he. All his buddies showed up, too. How about Jack Nicklaus? How cool he was?

[Travis Kelsey]

How about Jack, dude? The smoothest guy in the world, man.

[Adam Sandler]

Yeah, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just a buttery swing and just a. Just a kind cool cat when you meet.

[Adam Sandler]

I know, man. That was.

[Travis Kelsey]

My dad was in heaven meeting all, man.

[Adam Sandler]

No doubt about it. Your father. Now, what sports did your dad play growing up? Everything.

[Travis Kelsey]

He was a baseball guy. He was a baseball. He played some football as well, but, yeah, he was a baseball guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he played baseball, football, and then later on played rugby. Oh.

[Travis Kelsey]

What's funny, though, is that he actually handed us a set of what looked like Happy Gilmore clubs. It was the old skinny bag with the. The woods that actually had, like, the wood with, like. Just like, a metal face or something.

[Jason Kelsey]

Almost like a persimmon.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, exact. You. He handed us those when we were younger, and that's what we played with when we were young.

[Adam Sandler]

That's amazing. So you guys used to walk around the course together, all the Kelsey family?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, my dad didn't do any of the golf, and he. Basically, my dad was trying to figure out, how can I get these guys, like, out of the house during the summer. So he bought us some used clubs that played against sports for, like, as cheap as he could get them, right? And then he just sent us to the local public course, Highlands up in Cleveland, Ohio.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was, like, five hours of free getting these boys away from me.

[Adam Sandler]

That's so true.

[Travis Kelsey]

So true.

[Adam Sandler]

Makes total sense. Now I totally understand, as a parent, why my father would go, you look tired. Go to sleep. And I'd be like, I'm not tired.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's two in the afternoon. What are we talking about?

[Adam Sandler]

He'd be like, take a nap.

[Jason Kelsey]

You need a nap.

[Adam Sandler]

But, yeah, my father, too, fellas.

[Jason Kelsey]

He.

[Adam Sandler]

My father was a great golfer, and he would get me and my brother out there, and my father is one of those guys who knew what he was doing with his. With his hands, and. And he did. He was electrical engineer and contractor and kind of new, and he would take real clubs and shorten them for us. He'd be downstairs cutting up, making it work. And then we had little clubs at work for a while.

[Jason Kelsey]

Holy cow.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's a good dad right there.

[Adam Sandler]

It was cool, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Very cool.

[Adam Sandler]

Yeah, that was nice.

[Travis Kelsey]

You got to tell the. The artist. Where did that actual happy swing, like the. The. The crow hop into the. Into the ball? Where did that come from?

[Adam Sandler]

Me and Tim Hurley, he and Dennis Dugan, the director, we were like, shouldn't happy kind of have like a. Like a. Sort of a hockey swing? And I said, yeah, but I kind of run up there and give it, like, a slap shot, kind of little momentum. We just started doing that.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is epic. The fact that you could just do it on the fly like that. Had the hand eye coordination to get on, to hit the ball solid like that. That had to be.

[Adam Sandler]

Oh, man. I mean, look, I don't. I. When I get out there, like, I played with Bryson, like, two weeks ago, and he had me do this when he was filming and for his show, and he had me do the swing, and I think I did it twice, and I hit it twice decent, but it had, like, a little fade on it. I wish I. I wish I had a draw going, but I couldn't get it. I couldn't get that guy. I get that fade every time.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm.

[Adam Sandler]

I'm up here with it. Then I go, remember, swing out. Then I go, no, I'm gonna do it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Over the top, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

Over the top.

[Adam Sandler]

Like an idiot, I. I know it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I know it.

[Adam Sandler]

While I'm doing it, I'm going, why are this. You envisop.

[Travis Kelsey]

We love it, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Nothing wrong with a good power fade.

[Adam Sandler]

Exactly.

[Jason Kelsey]

Lee was the only guy that would do it last time. It feels like there can't be many people that you called up and said, hey, do you want to be in Happy Gilmore 2? And weren't interested in being. I mean, what was it like filming it this time around that was different from the first time around.

[Adam Sandler]

You know, I. I, like, we. We tried to make it a real athlete like you. You guys know the deal. And you know what, Jason? We were thinking, like, when an athlete retires, like, what goes on throughout the day and. And like, and how you miss it. And then you kind of say, if I got out there again, you know, like, that's kind of. Kind of like your whole life is one thing, and then all of a sudden, you're not doing that. And so we made. The story of Happy is that he's. He's been out for 10 years, and he decides he's kind of out of cash, and he's like, I got to get back on there. And we knew to make it real and have him be on a pro tour, put out a lot of calls to the real golfers just to make it look authentic. And the day that Travis was. There was nothing but superstars there in the golf world.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was filled with them, the new, the old. It was everybody.

[Adam Sandler]

Yeah, it was a day. A couple of days we'll never forget. And they love Travis, Mike, every one of them.

[Travis Kelsey]

We happen to have a bunch of them that I was already cool with and huge fans of, like, Spieth and Shafley and all them. And it's. It's the best.

[Adam Sandler]

Yes. You. You gave a nice chest bump to Xander, and it was a big time. It was a big. We were all loving that day. It was, I think, two days of fun. Yeah, it was. I think in the movie, that scene turned out great.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're.

[Adam Sandler]

You're all over Travis. Whatever you gave us was great. And whatever these. The. All the. The golfers gave us and lady golfers from the. Then the. From the female tour. They were awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

And the.

[Adam Sandler]

There's so many great athletes all over the movie.

[Jason Kelsey]

Man, I could not be more excited for Happy Gilmore 2 to come out. Like, is there anything else you want to, like, give us on it or put out there?

[Adam Sandler]

Like, I just want to say thank you to everybody. I mean, so many cameos. Everybody came and did. I know they were being nice to me. And do me a favor. It's a lot of time making a movie. You Sit, you hang.

[Baker Mayfield]

You.

[Adam Sandler]

You don't have that much to do. At times it can get frustrating. But nobody showed that. Everybody, it was like. It was like a clubhouse. Everybody, every day was a new bunch of people coming in for a day or two, and we all just sat and hung out.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was so cool, man.

[Adam Sandler]

Travis, man, you were so cool to all of every one of us. You bruises on your back, man. You just played in Pittsburgh. Is that right?

[Jason Kelsey]

That's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

I had a few. Few catches the week before, man. I was lucky for everyone that doesn't know I did it on the. The bye week last year. And it was so much fun getting. Getting away for three days and jumping on a set with Happy Madison. You guys run it like a family. It is so cool to see, man. You guys do it better than any other set that I've ever been on. Not that I've been on a lot, man, but thanks, man. It was so freaking cool. And you, you mentioned thank you to everybody that came in, man. Thank you for doing it the way you guys do it, because you made everybody feel at home, feel comfort, and I can't wait to see this masterpiece on July 25th, baby.

[Adam Sandler]

I love that you're in it, buddy. And we, we worked hard. We hope everybody has a good time with. I can't wait. I know it's coming out and then it's out. That's. That's life. You go. You just like you guys with a big game, you go. Been thinking about this my. For a long time, all season. And then all of a sudden you go, here it is, man. Let's go.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know, can't wait to see it.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's going to be. Yeah. I mean, this is one of the most iconic movies that came out in the 90s. I mean, it was like, I can't believe it's actually happening again. I can't believe happy Gilmore 2 is happening this far away from the first one. Could not be more excited.

[Adam Sandler]

Thank you, buddy. Thank you.

[Travis Kelsey]

I hope.

[Adam Sandler]

I hope you guys have a fun time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you for the time, big guy.

[Adam Sandler]

Love you, boys. And I'll see you real soon. And say hi to the families.

[Travis Kelsey]

The Sandman. Have fun at the premiere, man. Wish I could be there. I'll be in Old St. Joe, Missouri, catching, catching, catching the ball from old Patty Mahomes, man. But I wish I could be there. You're the best. Thank you again for letting me and my pops come in and have some fun with you.

[Adam Sandler]

Have a great season, fellas. I'm going on tour In September. If you guys are near any of the shows, come to the shows. September and October. Yeah, I think. I think I'm. I think I'm going to be near both of you guys. So you. You. You'll let me know?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'll just find it. We'll find it, big guy.

[Baker Mayfield]

Too much fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

Have fun, big guy. All right.

[Adam Sandler]

Love you guys.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thanks.

[Travis Kelsey]

The Sandman.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

How about a little throwback to cereal Training camp last year, still can't believe we developed our own cereal blend, the Kelsey mix. We whipped it up in pure breakfast. Genius. I still love mixing those cereals together.

[Jason Kelsey]

I really cannot wait to do the taste test between this and the new mixes they're coming up with this year. Speaking of which, those new mixes are a breakfast of champions with some of the most exciting NFL contenders. This time, they are partnering with Justin Jefferson, Monroe St. Brown, and Jamar Chase. And they are bringing the end zone energy straight to your breakfast table.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

And Justin's not messing around. He's getting his own mix. That's right. Jenna's mix that combines Frosted Lemon Cheerios and Cinnamon Toast Crunch Strawberry, available for a limited time only.

[Travis Kelsey]

That stuff sounds so good. Be sure to score them all at your local grocery store in August. They'll be everywhere. Can't miss them.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

I love trying food spots in different cities. Big fan of that. Ooh. I love going to different bars and different things that the cities are known for.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's what I thought you were gonna say. Like, the night we went to Upfront, and I was like, hey, you want to go check out this bar and play some darts? And you were like. You were about to go to sleep, and you were like, all right, I'll do it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm definitely in on that.

[Travis Kelsey]

No matter.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

It was great.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was such a good time. That was fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. So Baker Mayfield is not the only guest. The Sandman showed up. That was pretty awesome.

[Travis Kelsey]

The Sandman.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

I love that dude, man. And I was talking to Will Compton and Taylor Lawan about this. It's like, there's the heroes that they say, you mean don't meet your heroes. And then there's the heroes that you do meet because they exceed how cool and how amazing they are.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

And every single time I'm around a man, that guy just. He makes you feel at home, feel loved, and he just makes you feel like you've been homies since. Since the first time you saw him on the screen. It's so cool, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

He lives up to it. Yeah, for sure. Well, I am thoroughly excited for Happy Gilmore, too. Cannot wait for it to come out on Netflix.

[Travis Kelsey]

Coming up this week, the 25th.

[Jason Kelsey]

Gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see Travis's mustache. As well as big Ed Roman around there. And also freaking. Come on, the Sandman, Shooter McGavin.

[Travis Kelsey]

Happy Gilmore giving it another run.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's go, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Next bit of new news. By the time this airs, training camp has officially started for the Kansas City Chiefs. Trav, how we feeling, buddy? Going?

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm ready to rock and roll, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Thirteen. That's when I called it a rap.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thirteen.

[Jason Kelsey]

Lucky number was.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, maybe that was a good number for you, Jason. You wore 13. And on your hockey jerseys and baseball jerseys growing up.

[Jason Kelsey]

And you guys open up on Friday, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, We're a Friday. Friday night in Sao Paulo.

[Jason Kelsey]

Friday the. The. The 13th season. Friday the 13th for Travis Kelsey. Just.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't think it. All right, I'll go with it. It's not the 13th for those, but.

[Jason Kelsey]

It'S 13 for you. So it's kind of like Friday the 13th.

[Travis Kelsey]

No. Feeling good. I'm ready to rock and roll, man. I'm ready. I'm ready to get this ball rolling. I've been saying it. It's kind of ironic. I'm gonna be at beautiful St. Joe, Missouri, Missouri Western State University for the 13th year of my career, and I will. I will officially have been able to say that I've spent a year in. In the dorm rooms at. At Missouri Western for a year of my life. I've spent an entire 13 years and three weeks in every single year leading up to the season. So that basically is. Yeah, an entire year of my life in dorm rooms in a college that I've never even applied to. I think it's kind of. I mean, it's my sanctuary, really. It's my sanctuary. It's where I. It's where I, like, turn. Flip the switch and. And. And kind of turn it to the. The football mode, and I eat, breathe, and sleep football there, and it kind of gets me ready for the season, so I'm excited to get there. Everybody at St. Joe is always amazing. They really roll out the red carpet out there, and, yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Anything else you feel worth sharing of St. Joe?

[Travis Kelsey]

No, man. I just, like I said, I eat, breathe, and sleep football. I'm just. I put my phone down. I really don't answer any texts or any calls. And, yeah, I just think about, you know, my craft.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, perfect. Well, there's somebody that is excited about St. Joe's as well, and his name is Patrick Mahomes said about the upcoming season, you know, I'm honestly just ready to play football again. Whenever you lose, you kind of have this taste in your mouth, and you want to get back out there and avenge that or whatever you want to say. But at the same time, I feel like I've had to sit back and just listen to people talk and talk, and I'm just ready to play football and handle it all out there. Sounds like somebody's pretty fired up to get back out there. What about you, Trav? How do you feel?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think we're all along those lines, man. Yeah, I don't think we play that game 10 times. That's the outcome. I Will say the Eagles got the better of us, but at the same time, this year, we got a lot of really good players coming back. We got a lot of guys that we're looking to take that next step in terms of their accountability and being playmakers in the league. And sure enough, we kind of remolded the offense and defensive lines. And I'm just fired up to get this thing, you know, running. I think in training camp, it's such a beautiful thing because you start to. You start to see how guys react when they're tired. You start to see how guys grind, and you start to see how guys kind of mold themselves into their role on the team. And I'm excited to see, you know, who steps up and how we're. And the team that we can. We're able to shape going into the season. Man, it's. It's always a fun time in training camp, knowing that, you know, everyone's there to work their ass off and try and make this team for sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

And, I mean, especially, I love training camp, especially now that I don't have to practice in it. I just get to go and watch and work with the guys. Yeah, I don't got to put them pads on. Let's go out there. Hey, let's do a little mirror drill. Let's get warmed up. All right. Come on. I'm looking forward to getting out there. I'm. There's something about, like, the. The energy in the air for the start of training camp is, like, so infectious because everybody's been waiting to get back out there, especially the first day in pads. Right? You're. There's. You can, like, all of your senses are heightened. You can smell the grass. You can. You can feel the pads on your shoulder, the water and the sweat dripping down your back. There's, like, something about it. Like, the first time you put all that back on that, it just lets you know that football season is here. I can't wait to go to the Eagles training camp, work with some of these offensive linemen, see what the team's looking like, get back around the guys. There's a lot of energy for both teams. Right. Obviously, Kansas City and the Eagles coming off of the super bowl, expectations are high again. What else more would you want? And in Philly, we got some new pieces coming in. There's a position on the offensive line that's going to have some competition for it, so I look forward to watching that in particular, got some new pieces on defense. I always love training camp. I. I know that it's one of those things that's like love, hate, because you know it's difficult and you know how challenging it's going to be. But when you're a competitor and you love the sport, even though that's challenging, hopefully you have that on mute when you're in training camp. Travis. And if I don't, what's top velvet gonna do?

[Travis Kelsey]

Turn that off, dude. There was one time, and I think the story is already out there. There was one training camp where I. My phone went off like that. And it used to be a really, really obnoxious screaming sound of R2D2 in Star Wars. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if you remember my phone having this. This alarm or this phone call.

[Jason Kelsey]

I definitely remember it. What do you see from him?

[Travis Kelsey]

It was. It was literally the most annoying sound in the world. That thing went off in a team meeting and Coach Reed is the one talking.

[Jason Kelsey]

Talking. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's like. It's one thing if it's like an install or like somebody else is talking, but no, the big man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, everybody's doing the cough to try and hide.

[Travis Kelsey]

You can't hide.

[Jason Kelsey]

You can't hide. That one. Can't hide R2D2.

[Travis Kelsey]

But I used to do it because I was such a heavy sleeper and I would sleep through my alarm sometimes, so I would. Made it the most annoying loud sound. So I would just get up and like, I would be awake from that point on. And, man, I started fiddling with it too, too fast. And I'm like trying. I'm like terrified at this point. I'm like, don't look up. And I'm like trying to stop it and it won't stop. So I just get up in the middle of the TV room, go down the aisle, out the door, and just chuck it as far as I can. You just hear it bouncing off the floor of the wall. That. This, the. That finally stops. And then I walk back to the seat, just like, head down. Just like, don't even look at him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Don't even look at him.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don't even look at him, but just sit down. And I think I heard him chuckle. Like, that was the most ridiculous way to handle that.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, that's a funny ass thing to do. And if I was a coach, I'd be like, all right, he gets it. He gets it. Yeah, he made a mistake. He's good to go, though. Dude, that's amazing.

[Travis Kelsey]

I. I haven't had that rigor ever since, just in case that happened.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, that it would have then just reminded me of that moment of embarrassment.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is a. It's a tough one. How do you get guys off the phones? Because now everybody's on the phones, right? And the coaches have difficulty keeping guys off the phones and meetings.

[Travis Kelsey]

What? Nobody's in the phones?

[Jason Kelsey]

Come on, now. Don't give me this. This. You're not in the phones and meeting with some milk.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, I don't.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, good. No, that's good. That's good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Once every blue moon.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'll be honest. Yeah. All right.

[Travis Kelsey]

We always throw the phones out there. I'm talking, like, mid. Mid season. Meeting after the. After the practice. Like, I'll be in there while we're watching practice. That I already.

[Jason Kelsey]

You've seen the same thing, and I've seen it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I might have. I might just kind of peek at the phone and answer a text. Yeah, that's it. I'm not searching and, like, looking at. Scrolling through Instagram or anything.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, good for you. Good for you. I'm just saying, people do do that. I'm not. Accusations of anybody. People do that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nah, it's all good.

[Jason Kelsey]

The way Stout discourages people looking at the phone is. Calls it cold calling. It's one of his, like, signature things that he calls it. I think he learned it from, like, some teaching class or something. At any moment, if he suspects anybody's looking at their phone or they're not paying attention, they're starting to nod off, he'll hit him with a question and. But he'll ask the question first and then say the name. That's a very important distinction. He doesn't say, hey, Travis, what does the Y have on such and such and such? He'll be like, all right, what's the y got on 74% Travis? And there's like, oh, shit. Now, once, because if you hear your name first, then you're locked in. Boom. But if you hear your name after the question, it's like, oh, shit, I better have heard that. Whole thing catches guys all the time, and then you got to stay locked in.

[Travis Kelsey]

That wouldn't faze me. I'd own that all day, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

My favorite used to be landing over there in the corner.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don't do Landon like this.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, Landon smart as fuck. I'm not doing landed like this. Landon's smart as fuck. One of the smartest guys I replayed. He plays a dumbass on social media and whatnot. Like, he's a big, like, goofy son of a bitch. That dude is dialed in. He knows his Assignment. You ain't fucking catching him. Yeah, but every once in a while he's looking at lawnmowers in the middle of the meeting or get that zero turn. He's looking at Auto Trader or something like that or whatever the it is.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, that's a good magazine right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

And Stout will hit him with a cold call and he's like, ah, yeah, got. He's like, yeah, I got you.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's so good.

[Jason Kelsey]

The cold calling. Surefire way to keep guys locked in.

[Travis Kelsey]

Tommy. Tom's gonna be cold calling my sorry ass.

[Jason Kelsey]

Come on, Tom, hit him with the cold calls.

[Travis Kelsey]

Can't get me, Tom. You know you can't.

[Jason Kelsey]

All righty. That does it for training camp. New news brought to you by American Express. Will this season feel any different without the executive director of the NFL, Lloyd Howell? Is that who I thought it was? The pa?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, it's supposed to say pa. Sorry, I copied and pasted something weird. I'll find a picture of him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I know who this is.

[Travis Kelsey]

Do you want to talk about it or not?

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I do, I think. I mean, it's unfortunate for those of you that don't know. Lloyd Howe, the NFL PA's executive director was. Well, I guess he resigned technically, right? Is that right? Brandon? Brandon, Is he resigned or was.

[Travis Kelsey]

He resigned last night. Resigned last night.

[Jason Kelsey]

As of this recording, he resigned Thursday night. Was discovered that he and maybe other employees. I don't really know the full parameters of this. I don't want to. I also don't want to get a lot.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't think we should. I don't think we should do this, dude. Yeah, there was a report.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not saying it's true or not. I have no idea of whether it's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason, it's on espn.

[Jason Kelsey]

There was a report out there that they were spending. They were using the company card of the NFLPA on strip club visits and holding business meetings there. And apparently you can't do that. It's against company policy.

[Travis Kelsey]

How do you feel about that, Jason? Do you think you should be able to.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, here's the official thing. All right, this is from espn. A solid establishment, no few people there. Former NFLPA leader Lloyd Howell Jr. Resigned after an outside investigator hired by the union. So somebody with inside the union ratted him out. Man, that's fucked up. All right. Received documents this week showing he charged the union for two visits to strip clubs, including a 738.$82 car service that took him from the airport to one of the Clubs. That's an expensive car service, right? How much is a car service?

[Travis Kelsey]

He got. He was the guy. Limousine.

[Jason Kelsey]

The car's first stop was at a nearby Miami Gardens address. The receipt shows only one other stop, nearly eight hours later.

[Travis Kelsey]

Joe, why are you putting this on the company card? What are we doing?

[Jason Kelsey]

The employees googled the Miami Gardens address and discovered it was Tootsie's Cabaret, which I have not been. But I have heard great things of that establishment.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's a 76,000 square foot venue that bills itself as the world's largest trooper club. In quotes, full nude, number one rated.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, it sounds like a good establishment.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, to be fair, I, I've. I've heard the. I've heard the Wings are good there. Like everyone loves the Wings there.

[Jason Kelsey]

During this year's NFLP summit on February 21, Hal accompanied two union employees to the Magic City Strip Club for an outing that included $2,426 in charges, including cash withdrawals ranging from 200 to $525 from a club. ATM sources and documents show they used two VIP rooms. Well, I mean, the VIP rooms is where you get me because listen, this is the only thing I don't. Was it being used for business expense or not? If it was being used and business was happening, I don't see what the issue is. I mean, they're conducting business, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

What was the business?

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't. Nflpa business. I don't know what the business was.

[Travis Kelsey]

It says it right here. The strip club outing was used according.

[Jason Kelsey]

To the expense report. The purpose of the strip club outing. Player engagement event. To support and grow our union. I'm going to be honest, there's not a lot of engagement that happens with the players union. It's hard to get guys to go to meetings and get involved. Having a meeting at Tootsies might is not a bad idea to improve engagement. Yeah, you're probably going to get more.

[Travis Kelsey]

Players going to the VIP room.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, that's where you lose.

[Travis Kelsey]

You can get their attention.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, you can't have too much business if you're in a one on one VIP room. It's a bold idea to create more engagement by Mr. Howell and it backfired.

[Travis Kelsey]

You gotta use the reference, what you said earlier. Yeah. Is it Applebee's or the strip club? If they're. It doesn't matter which one.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, you go to Applebee's, it's a business expense. You go to a strip club and you get Wings, it's. I don't see why? It's much different. I mean, we're all 21 here. Right? But I. They don't have a VIP room at the Applebee's where you sit there for all by yourself. This can't bode well for our upcoming contract negotiations with the league.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's funny that this is what the. This is what the players pay for. This is like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, this.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's using the NFLPA's money. Correct. For these expenses. And it's just. It's hilarious that, you know, the Madden checks go there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

We pay our dues to the union. And this is what. It's being used for. Wings. It's being used for wings in the VIP room.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm just saying. Also, player engagement. You saw it right there on the report. There was. Company morale is a big thing. And improving them. The PA needs to improve their morale. There's not a lot of excitement when you talk about collective bargaining agreements. So you. I don't know. I mean, you have some wings. They might not have even known Tootsie's was a strip club. Maybe they thought they were going to a restaurant. I don't know. What. Who knows? What they knew.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, they probably knew when they walked in.

[Jason Kelsey]

They knew before they walked in. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. If they actually were. If they actually got work done.

[Travis Kelsey]

So bogus.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, what if they had, like, laptops out and like, we're like, crunching numbers at the fucking table.

[Travis Kelsey]

They were just saying numbers. They were crunching numbers. And in between the numbers, they were going over to the atm.

[Jason Kelsey]

Excuse me, could you put this up on the display? Bambi, if you could please move to the side. I just want to show that guaranteed contracts is a potential for the future of the NFL. Bambi, lower. Don't. Lower. Lower. Bambi, lower. Lower. All right, you can see right here from my graph that if we just hold out for two to three weeks, that's X amount of money that the NFL is going to incur in expense. Baby, move your tits. I'm trying to show my graph that word. Have I gone too far? Have I gone too far with this? Oh, gosh.

[Travis Kelsey]

Somebody please give Bambi $200 so I can get her off the stage. Show my grass.

[Jason Kelsey]

We don't know what was going on in that building. It's so ridiculous. It's pretty absurd. It's not good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't really know what else to say. We just. I guess now we got to figure out a new executive director.

[Travis Kelsey]

We gotta get out of this.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's the next thing we can spend on a corporate card as the NFLPA to be more ridiculous?

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, well, thank you for that, Jason. Let's get to some fan mentions. Jason, you are shirtless yet again. The irony is so good. Jason, shirtless is now a lawn art. Thank you to garage beer.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's pretty sick. Pretty.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's actually really sick.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

It kind of blows my mind that, like, how so?

[Jason Kelsey]

It's actually not even. He's not even mowing the lawn. Apparently he, like, blows it and it like turns in different directions or something like that. That I don't really fully understand it.

[Travis Kelsey]

What?

[Jason Kelsey]

He made it seem like there's like a specific machine that helps with this. I don't really fully understand any of it, to be honest with you.

[Travis Kelsey]

I've only seen like the outfield at Jacobs Field or like Progressive Field where it's like cut in like, angles and stuff like that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, this is crazy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

How does he do this?

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, he's mowing it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm telling you. He, I, I, I have been in contact personally with the guy.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's like he's on a mower right now mowing it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not a mower. It's like something that like, blows the grass in specific ways I don't fully understand.

[Travis Kelsey]

He's got a computer on this thing that is basically like blowing the grass a certain way as he goes over it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't even know. I have no idea what this technology is. For all I know, it could be the same technology that built the pyramids. I have no clue what this is or how he did it.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's an epic video that I just watched right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's pretty remarkable.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Do you understand how proud I am to be the reason that you did this? Ridiculous. I feel so seen. Well, because this is, this is what, this is what my dream was always to make human beings do like this. Yeah. Just get this fucking hype about my performance.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, you've been doing it for years. You've been doing it for years, Travis.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thank you.

[Jason Kelsey]

This combined with drinking for an entire six hours of Bill's Mafia before the game got me real excited.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was a fucking really fun day.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, that's awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

Also the first time I met your girlfriend. So that was, it was an all timer.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, nice. That was then.

[Jason Kelsey]

All righty. We got an update for Jets Jake tattoo. How about this? Oh, it's official. There's somebody that is going to Be getting a pinup tattoo of Jets Jake. It's been booked for next Thursday according to this. Hopefully no one else gets it before then. And shout out to the boys and Brandon for confirming they were serious. We'll post the pic as soon as it's done. I cannot wait. Next Thursday. This is posted not today, probably yesterday or a couple days ago. So it'll be done by next week.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Cannot wait to see what this looks like. Anyone else looking to get a Ditch Jake tattoo? You're officially on the clock.

[Travis Kelsey]

Got till Thursday.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jake, how are we feeling about this? What do you think your pinup tattoo is going to be?

[E]

First off? This is bizarre.

[Jason Kelsey]

I have some ideas.

[E]

You have ideas?

[Jason Kelsey]

I hope it includes something with the jets, of course, naturally. And a hobby horse. Those are my two components that I would love. This tattoo comprised of hobby horse would.

[E]

Be a nice little touch. I'm sure that would make my family a bit more comfortable with this idea. I do think, think it's. This is.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's weird.

[E]

It's weird. I'm sorry, I'm just gonna say it's gonna be weird.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jake. Don't. Don't think it's weird. You're the one that retweeted the first one. You retweeted the first one. Your hands were the ones that retweeted the first one. You did this. This is true. This is.

[E]

I will say it's also like, it's a. It's a little flattering. Like, I am kind of honored.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's.

[E]

It's. I'm not gonna let. I'm staying with some buddies this week because our friends just got engaged. Shout out to Frankie and Josh. But everyone is just making fun of me relentlessly for the fact that this is happening. So they're keeping me humble. But I'm gonna say it's very flattering.

[Jason Kelsey]

I feel like there's gotta be something with social media on it as well. Like maybe like Twitter birds.

[E]

Little Twitter bird.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah. Twitter bird tattoo. Do you have any tattoo? Instagram, do you have any tattoos?

[E]

I have no tattoos. I think I'm not going to get a tattoo of this person. That would be.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's.

[E]

This is not like a one to one trade off scenario. I would. If we can come up. I shouldn't say this on air.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you about to say you're willing to get a tattoo?

[Travis Kelsey]

I.

[E]

If we, if we come up with like the right type of bet down the line, years from that, like, this is a season four problem, you know. Well, when we come back Next season, and we could workshop some. Some tattoo ideas.

[Jason Kelsey]

But I might.

[E]

Adrian, edit this out of the podcast. I immediately regret saying that, but we'll. We'll see.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, no, it's on. It's on camera down the road. It's on camera now.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's on camera.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. So we. Now we know. Good to know.

[E]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

All righty.

[E]

Well, you know, we love the 92 percenters. It's very. That's the best fans in the world. So I'm on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do you think the person willing to get this tattoo is male or female?

[Travis Kelsey]

Male.

[E]

I. I believe it's a male, but I would be. I don't know what's worse.

[Travis Kelsey]

Musical airman.

[Jason Kelsey]

Musical airmen.

[E]

They get pinups. That's how pinups were started. It was like a military thing.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, listen, he's an airman. He probably likes jets. Maybe this might be the sickest one of all of us. Dude, Travis has an accelerator can. I don't even remember what mine is again. What was mine was the eagle.

[E]

You had the eagle, dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, you're bald eagle.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're bald eagle. For the jets fan to life. And for the Giants fan, do you want a small plane, or do you want, like, a B52 bomber? Like, what kind of plane is 757 down there?

[E]

I think a modestly sized plane is perfectly fine.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, all right, that's enough of this. Yeah, thanks, guys.

[E]

Guys, I hope multiple people don't do this. This is one person is. Is plenty. Shout out to him or her.

[Travis Kelsey]

We'll see if somebody tries to beat him to the punch.

[E]

Hey, Jesus, Kurt.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, thanks, guys. All right, now. And a bakery slid into our dms. How about that? Bakes Cakes in Iowa. Or, I'm sorry, Ottawa. Ottawa, Kansas.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's an Ottawa, Kansas.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Never heard. Okay, cool. Ottawa, Kansas, there's a bakery called Bakes Cakes. Super creative. Turn our favorite energy into a cupcake.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's right.

[Jason Kelsey]

You gotta try these out, Trav.

[Travis Kelsey]

Two of my favorite flares. I could use one right now as I'm yawning, man. I haven't. I don't got any down here in Florida. Since I'm down here right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not gonna lie, they look very good. Is it. It's in the icing too.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm not a big icing guy, but if it's got. If it's got caffeine in it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I kind of copy. Talked about this on Kylie's podcast. Instagram. I like cream cheese frosting. I'm not a huge fan of a Lot of frostings. I like cream cheese frosting and I like Chantilly. Have you ever had the Chantilly berry cake from Whole Foods? No. The frosting on that is. It's insane. It's so good. It's light, it's airy, it's not too much. Fantastic cake. It really is.

[Travis Kelsey]

The frosting can get a little thick, but I'm with you.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's easy to mess that stuff up. I really don't like a lot of times the cakes that are super artistic because many times I find that frosting to be similar to, like, wax. You know, it's like. I like, hold. It's like position. It's not the right texture or taste.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, well, this being said, I used to eat frosting out of the tube when mom had it in the. So.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, all right.

[Travis Kelsey]

I digress. Shout out to Bakes cakes over there in Kansas. Yeah, shout out to Accelerator. Oh, God, I could use one right now. Having withdrawals. Let's keep this thing moving to some New Heights Film Club.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's right. For the season finale of New Heights Film Club, we watched the 1990s classic Pretty Woman.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes, sir.

[Travis Kelsey]

Julia Roberts, Richard Gear.

[Jason Kelsey]

Gear, not Greer.

[Travis Kelsey]

The entire time. My entire life I've been thinking it was Greer, and it's not.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yep, no, same here.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's Gear, and they absolutely killed it. I thought it was a fantastic movie. I enjoyed every bit of it. I. I'm not gonna lie. When we first started, I really didn't know that it was about her being a hooker.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, no, that was a surprise. Right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Didn't know Julia Roberts signed up for that one. But, I mean, it is a very. It's a. It's a. It's a fun movie to follow along along with.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's the world's oldest profession, Travis. It's a tale as old as time. I thought this movie was fantastic. I really did. I loved it. It's got all the themes and things that I hold true and, like, all wrapped up into one.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, like what? Like what?

[Jason Kelsey]

I really like how it shows the difference in classes. And like, what people.

[Travis Kelsey]

The stereotypes.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, not even stereotypes. Just, like, people from different worlds and what they know and understand and why, like, people aren't necessarily better in low, lower class societies or upper class societies. Like, right away you get to the thing where you have this billionaire businessman who has all the power in the world. He has everything you could ever want. He's led you to believe, like, he's very smart to get to this position that he can't even drive a car. He struggles to do the stick shift.

[Travis Kelsey]

He has no idea where he's going, where he's going.

[Jason Kelsey]

He has no idea how to get to where he wants to go. He pulls over the side of the road and he doesn't even know he's talking to a hooker on Hollywood Boulevard. Like, clearly there's an emphasis to show that this guy has zero street smarts whatsoever because he's never been on the streets. Right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And Julia Roberts, right away, throughout the film, you see her clever, cunning way of talking to people unfiltered, not protective of what she is. She says she was laughing so hard she almost pissed herself at the opera. Laughing like she's very unapologetically who she is. There's no barrier to try and hide that because she doesn't care what people think of her. And then at the same time, she struggles to know anything that's happening on the other side with the, the cutlery. And she's amazed at the hotels and.

[Travis Kelsey]

The hotels, yeah, the hotel room, jewelry.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like she's exposed to a whole nother world. And I think throughout the movie they do a good job of basically saying that like neither world is better than the other in a lot of ways. They just are different and people come from different ones and people are really all the same and they draw that comparison with them literally saying, like, I'm not any different than you, Edward. I people over for money and like, yada, yada, yada, whatever that line was.

[Travis Kelsey]

Right, right.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's also some really sneaky ways they did this too with like, I thought a very subtle one of like showing generational divides. Like when they're having dinner with the Morris dad and son, right. And she just learned what fork is what. And she finds out they're not having a salad, so she doesn't know what fork to use. The younger son, who probably is only known wealth because his father built this entire empire, is almost like laughing and surprised that she doesn't know what fork to use. But the father who built the entire empire, who probably came from nothing, admits himself that he forgets sometimes what fork to use. I think it's very true that people that grow up in their own worlds don't have frames of reference or know people from these other worlds. And it's easy to judge them. And I think they do a great job of showing people that have been a part of both of those worlds of like high class society and working class or low class society, they treat people differently. Right. And they treat those that are different than them. And you see it in the hotel management, right? Like my favorite character in the entire movie is Barney. He kills it. The hotel manager, right from the get go. That scene where you are Mr. Edwards.

[Travis Kelsey]

Niece, niece.

[Jason Kelsey]

That is just such a fantastic scene right there. But how he treats Julia Roberts, Vivian throughout the film up until the end, really. I mean, he's the only. He's the last person to kind of tell Edward, yo, you're this up, dude. Yeah, like, it's hard to let go of something so beautiful, isn't it?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yep. By the way, by the way, he knows where she is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Daryl sent her home yesterday, wink, wink. But yeah, I think there's some iconic lines throughout the movie, but I really loved how they did that. And it's really, you know, it's very Cinderella. Cinderella. E, you know, you have this, this prostitute that is in unfortunate circumstances due to partly because of who she is. And then also a lot of themes of raising kids to believe they can actually achieve in the world. A lot of that came in really at the end when she starts talking about how her mother used to tell her she is drawn to bums. And she's always going to be with bums to. All of a sudden she's telling Kit, you know, hey, hey, we think you got a lot of potential, kid. And don't let, don't let anyone tell you any different. Right? There's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And it really ends on the guy walking down the street saying, this is Hollywood where dreams come true, Baby, don't stop dreaming, or whatever that line is. And it's such a great way to end the film.

[Travis Kelsey]

And yeah, you'd be surprised on what you'd get out of some of those walking down the street.

[Jason Kelsey]

The line between her and Edward while they're lying there. It's earlier in the film she says, you know, people put you down enough, you start to believe it. He follows it up with a compliment, you know, reaffirming her how beautiful she is and how bright she is and that she can do anything she wants to do. And she follows it up. Well, the bad stuff is easier to believe. So it's just like there's constantly these themes of high class, low class and people dreaming to achieve and I don't know, it's all brought together really, really well all through the construct of love. And I thought it was just really well done. I loved it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Absolutely loved it. One of my favorite scenes was the polo scene. Yeah, the polo scene was dope. Where the younger Morris, he catches her talking to him over on the side and he's kind of like starting to feel like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's my lady.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's my woman. Why she had. Why she over there having. Seemingly to have a. Like, she's having a good time talking to this young handsome. All about. Yeah. What is this? And then. And then he. He let George Costanza get the better of him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, George Costanza, what a piece of.

[Travis Kelsey]

I. You can't be that fun to watch in Seinfeld. Be that shitty of a character in another movie. Movie like that was. I didn't see that one coming.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought he did a great job. He nailed the role.

[Travis Kelsey]

Absolutely nailed it. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jason Alexander killed that role. But.

[Travis Kelsey]

Sorry, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

George too. I mean, it's.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's hard.

[Jason Kelsey]

Too iconic. Yeah, he was a grade A piece of. In the best way possible. Yeah, I agree. That was a really fun. And then they come back and they have the argument and then he tells her why he's upset with her is because I saw you talking to this other guy and it's like, well, I mean, that's childish and jealousy. But that also is letting her know. That's like, oh, he. He wants me. You know what I mean? Like, he wants to be with me. So a little bit of jealousy. Good thing. I mean, you start being a little bit too jealous, then we got some issues. But you gotta have some face in.

[Travis Kelsey]

Your partner getting jealous and getting upset and being mad and telling your best friend that you're a hooker. Like, that's not. That's not how far you want to take it. We have to control these emotions. Mr. Greer.

[Jason Kelsey]

Gear.

[Travis Kelsey]

Mr. Gear.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mr. Gear. I love the ending of it. You know, she. She plays out like she's always had the dream of the night in shining armor, climbing the tower.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, San Francisco.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not being put up in a condo. And then all of a sudden, at the end of it, he's climbing the stairs of the Section 8 housing to save her from the circumstances that she's been dealt. Because he loves her.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. He's afraid of heights.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he braves up. Dude, I left Kylie in the ocean because of the sharks. I. I don't know if I'm as good as Edward is. Appare. I got a. I'll tell you what, though. If I actually thought she was in danger, I wouldn't. I promise.

[Travis Kelsey]

If I actually. I didn't think she was in danger. I thought I was in danger.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, I was just terrified. I didn't think I was in danger. That's the Difference?

[Travis Kelsey]

Well what's.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's hard to explain. There is a difference. I didn't think I was in danger. I just started getting worried about the sharks. I didn't think she was actually in danger otherwise I would have. If Kylie fell into shark infested water I would jump in.

[Travis Kelsey]

I guarantee she was 1000% in. Shark infested.

[Jason Kelsey]

She was away from the shark. The shark was way over here and it wasn't like in. It wasn't all the way. Yeah it wasn't even being.

[Travis Kelsey]

If you could see it you could see Kylie.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, if I saw the fin by Kai, if I would have saw the shark fin next to Kai I would have went towards.

[Travis Kelsey]

What do you mean? But there was towards around her.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was in a completely different vicinity of this water. I'm just letting you know the shark.

[Travis Kelsey]

Was already close enough to you to where you got out of the. If it got any closer to you.

[Jason Kelsey]

She was way behind me, I promise you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Only Kylie has to believe you. Just remember that. Only she has to believe you.

[Jason Kelsey]

A quarter million dollar necklace. Like what the. Where does you even get. Have you ever seen something like that?

[Travis Kelsey]

Never.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like what kind of. How many stones you got to pile on top of something?

[Travis Kelsey]

That'd be especially back then inflation. That's like a million dollar necklace nowadays.

[Jason Kelsey]

Jesus Christ. Yeah, a lot of great side care. The all these supporting actors and actresses did a great job. Kit was a. Kit was fun, a great role in what she was and even though she was holding Julia Roberts back a terrible friend really just in some ways you loved her and appreciated who she was. Jason Alexander, we already talked about him.

[Travis Kelsey]

Being a piece of shit great actor.

[Jason Kelsey]

Piece but piece of Barney, sorry Barney, don't know your actual name.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean he's great actor.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's been in a lot of ways like rom coms and 90s like like this role he really freaking just nails crushes it. The shopkeeper, the guy that they go to to treat yourself during right before the Pretty Woman montage. Yeah he's in a lot of those movies too. He does a great job. The bellhop operating the elevator kind of just you know all like I don't know that he has any spoken lines. A lot of it is just non verbal with eyes and stuff stuff does a great job.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think out of the other movies that we've. We've watched Julia Roberts actually earned a Golden Globe award for best actress in this movie. In addition to her first nominations for the Academy Award for best actress and BAFTA award for best actress in a Leading role. So she, I mean obviously she kills it. But this was like one of her like first like, like come out roles. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And she crushed it what she did before this. But I say this, being a very happily married man, that is. She is a pretty woman in this movie.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, and she kills it.

[Jason Kelsey]

She. The acting is great. She has like the accent. She. She does a great job during multiple of the scenes delivering the lines and I don't know, I just really enjoyed it. It's right up there with probably my favorite romance movie I probably have ever seen. Which is a low. Low is a short list.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like this isn't even a rom com. This is just straight romance from start to finish.

[Travis Kelsey]

Really? You didn't think it was that? I think there were funny parts of it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. But I wouldn't say it's like a rom. I don't know. It doesn't. It wasn't like supposed to be funny to the extent that I would call this a rom com. This is just pretty much a romance film to me.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's. I think it's a rom com, but I also don't think it's a rated R movie.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude. There's some scenes with where he's like going down the chest on the piano.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know what I mean? There's some, there's some lingerie scenes that are a little aggressive for the PG13. He Also, I think he swears in the movie. Maybe it would be PG13 if it was done today.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I guess you're right. I forgot some of those scenes in the room.

[Jason Kelsey]

The tie scene when he's been off to work, comes back, just has the tie on. Listen, that's a hell of a welcome home Pretty Woman fan mention. Whenever they review Pretty Woman, be sure to mention get their reaction to the fact that when Julie signed on for the role, the movie was originally a depressing drama where her character was a drug addict and gets left on the street. So it wasn't a romance movie at all. I want to know what the original script was.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't. I don't want to know. I liked it just the way it was.

[Jason Kelsey]

I like this where there's the happy ending because it all makes sense and is fits my themes of the way. I like hope and positivity to be the running theme of what people should aspire for. And keep thinking I'm. I'm an opt. I'm a glass half full guy. I'm a glass half full guy. That might be a little bit more realistic. Of an ending, to be honest with you, but I don't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're a curious guy. You want to see. You want to see what it was before? And Brandon has it right here for you. The original screenplay was titled 3000, and it was written by the then struggling screenwriter J.F. lawton. Originally intended to be a dark cautionary tale about class and prostitution in Los Angeles. Sounds terrible.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wow. They turned a complete 180 on that one.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, who knows if it would have been good, but it wasn't going to be this.

[Jason Kelsey]

Everything I like about the movie was the exact opposite.

[Travis Kelsey]

Somebody put that in. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You have no hope. You can't move up in class. You're not as good as the other ones you're gonna end up like if you end up doing the prostitution.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is reality. This isn't a fairy tale, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, well, I'm glad they didn't do that one, because I like. I'm. I'm a sucker for good endings. Film club. Pff. Grades. All right, plot.

[Baker Mayfield]

Plot.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's get into it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Plot. Very unrealistic. I'll be honest. Very unrealistic.

[Travis Kelsey]

Especially in today's age, for sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Billionaire CEO falls for the prostitute. I mean. I mean, I think it's unrealistic.

[Travis Kelsey]

Probably happened. Who knows?

[Jason Kelsey]

Probably happened.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who knows?

[Jason Kelsey]

Might have just happened with the former executive director of the nflpa. Who knows?

[Travis Kelsey]

It might have just happened. The CEO man. The CEO. Coldplay, you know, who knows?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, that was. That was the hr. That wasn't a prostitute. That was. That was. That was his work wife, which unfortunately wasn't good.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right. On people.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's kind of deserve it, right? But, yeah, yeah. Plot. I will say unrealistic plot, but I loved guiltily all the themes and everything had touched on it. I think they did a fantastic job. A lot of the lines delivered really hit me with, like, optimistic and hopeful values and fighting off people that tell you you're not good enough. Almost like this Rocky Balboa type, like, mindset.

[Travis Kelsey]

Vivian Balboa.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, Vivian Balboa. Listen, that Pretty Woman montage might be the only thing better than a Balboa montage. All right. Pff. Grade. Plaque. Not. I'm gonna go. It's a starting plot. It's a starting caliber plot. It's not an all pro plot. I'm gonna go 85. I'm gonna go 85.

[Travis Kelsey]

85. I'm right there with you. 85. Acting. I thought it was through the roof. I didn't see one bad. I didn't see one bad scene.

[Jason Kelsey]

No.

[Travis Kelsey]

I thought at first it was like. But a little horny.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like a little bit, like, too polished. Yeah. Yep.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know. To be honest. I think I just enjoyed the. The following along the movie.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think for what it is, it's really good. There's a lot of emotional scenes that the actors all nail. It's not the most realistic, so it's hard to view acting as premiere when the. It's a little kind of, like, Hollywoody. Right. Like, the movie's very Hollywoody in nature. I think Julia killed it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. She crushed.

[Jason Kelsey]

Killed it. All the supporting actors killed it. I don't think you could go with anything less like a 90. 95. Like, I'm in that range for this thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't think I'll go 95. I'll go 95.

[Jason Kelsey]

95.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

On screen chemistry. This is a new category that I have not seen.

[Travis Kelsey]

Although they were great together, it was good. I thought everybody. Everybody had good chemistry on there. I thought they gear did a good.

[Jason Kelsey]

Job of playing kind of like the heartless businessman that comes around and. And he was like the Grinch throughout the whole film. He finally grew hard, and he makes the soulless.

[Travis Kelsey]

And first, he was soulless for a lot of this thing.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sometimes it takes a good woman to bring that soul into you.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

So I'll go. I'll go.

[Travis Kelsey]

Soul woman is what it should have been called. All right. 90s fashion. I'm not gonna lie. Seeing the. The montage and seeing her put on all Those, like, fun 90s outfits, they were really, like, 80s. Like, 90s outfits.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's what I was about to say. That was my. That's exactly what I was gonna say. This movie took place in 1990, which I really liked, because there's actually themes from the 80s and 90s. Like, there's a lot of attire that was really. Wasn't 90s was more 80s. There's a lot of attire that was, like, forefront of where the 90s was going. It was a cool, like, in between of what the stereotypes for both of those genres ended up being. I do think it skews more 90s in aesthetic a little more 80s. Or when I think of 80s when it comes to the music.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, music.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. It had some, like, more like, 80s ballady vibes as opposed to, like, the 90s stuff.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Jason Kelsey]

So 90s fashion.

[Travis Kelsey]

If we want to, just do fashion. If we want to, we're just doing fashion.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'll say. I thought the street clothes were more 80s, like, the. The lower tier stuff was more 80s skewing to me. And the upscale stuff, everything that took place kind of at the hotel, that all felt more 90s to me. So I'll go. I'll go. 90s fashion. 75.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. Feminism. How much? What. What. What score do you think it gets on the feminism chart?

[Jason Kelsey]

This is what there. So there were a lot of people saying this movie is very misogynistic. I'll be honest, I am not good at this topic. I don't know.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think the only way to gauge it is to flip the script. I think we need to make Pretty Man Pretty man, and we need to have a CEO billionaire woman. So be so high class that she doesn't know where she's going. Travis, she doesn't know how to drive a car.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're. You're living. Right now. You are pretty mad. You're living your own Julia Roberts, straight down.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm wearing nothing but a tie when Taylor comes home.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. That's funny.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, man. You can't beat it, man. That's why me and Julia Roberts. When I met Julia, we. That's. It felt like we were. We were the same person. She's so cool. She spoke to me in this movie.

[Jason Kelsey]

Holy.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, now, that's all. I'm. I'm just the NFL stripper.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm just an NFL hooker, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, I'm the one who's stripping over at the Ocean Drive. I guess feminism. I guess there is definitely. There's definitely a healthy dose of rich, successful businessmen lifting the woman out of poverty and helping her achieve her dreams. There's some really bad parts, but I feel like it comes back to the. I actually think it does a great job of correlating how similar the two people are in the movie. Like, in all. In actuality of how they operate. Like the role of prostitution, the role of what he does from a business standpoint. I'm dead serious.

[Travis Kelsey]

You gave all the grades. You got to give a feminism grade.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not giving a feminism grade. This is a trap for all these feminists to get all pissed off at me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Brandon, you're a piece of shit.

[Jason Kelsey]

Enough. I'm not knowledgeable enough for feminism. Brandon, you can give the feminism score. You can get the.

[Travis Kelsey]

Now you have to give it to him because we need a fist.

[E]

Don't put me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nobody wants to hear my opinion.

[Jason Kelsey]

Everybody wants to hear Brandon's opinion.

[Travis Kelsey]

I give it a hundred. 100, 100. On the feminism.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know, What?

[E]

I think the score is whatever.

[Travis Kelsey]

Whatever.

[E]

The wonderful lady is listening to this.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's exactly what you're thinking. Oh, nice. Flip it.

[Baker Mayfield]

Flip it.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, well, now we need to figure out the pff grade, which we usually just add them and divide. We won't divide by five because we're not doing a feminism score. PFF grade of 86 point. I feel like that's low. Let's take out the fashion. The fashion grade two. You. It can't be under a 90. This movie's fantastic to me.

[Travis Kelsey]

Don't do 90s fashion. Just do fashion. The fashion in this movie was the fashion.

[Jason Kelsey]

If we're just going fashion, don't just do strictly 90s, because there's 80s elements to it too. Yeah, I'll do 90. I'll go a 90 score.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'll go 90 score. Yeah, that brings us up to about a 90.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's like a 90. Exactly, exactly. It's a little bit higher. It's like a 90. Yes, that's exactly. You're right. That's exactly. That's it for New Heights Film Club. I wanted to, like, recite lines from it. I had them written down. I just write when there's like, really good.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think you got all of them. All right, now that does it for New Heights Film Club. Thank you guys for listening to another year. New Heights Film Club. Can't wait for next year. Hey, yo, before we get to Baker, let's hit this heights hotline, though. The heights hotline is brought to you by audible. Let's go ahead. Jason. I picked the last one. You pick. You can pick one.

[Jason Kelsey]

Can girls propose? Dating apps, first date idea. Let's put some feminists off. Can girls propose?

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's hear it. We're on a roll today.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Hi, guys. So my boyfriend and I of three years just decided to get married and.

[Baker Mayfield]

We'Re planning it right now, but neither.

[Jason Kelsey]

Of us close to each other.

[Baker Mayfield]

So I was wondering if I were.

[Jason Kelsey]

To propose to him just like, as a funny bit, how should I do it? And if guys like we proposed to. All right, can you. Can you go back to the start of that? Did she say they're already planning the wedding? Is that what she started?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, my boyfriend and I of three years just decided to get married and we're planning it right now, but neither of us proposed to each other. So I was wondering.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know how this happened. They just decided to.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, just like.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay, Sounds like a one off situation. So you Their rules are different than everyone else's. So.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I don't think it's.

[Travis Kelsey]

Go ahead.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think it's uncommon for, like, a couple to talk about, like, hey, if we ever got married, like, would you want to do this or this? Like, I think that's normal. But it sounds like they're full on already agreeing to be married and planning, which does seem a little bit out of order to what, the typical structure?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, the traditional. The traditional is the man proposes and then you start to make those kind of decisions. I think, I think you're too far past this, the proposal step at this point. You just gotta. You just gotta leave it there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, there's. I'll. I'll start with this. Can a woman propose? I think a woman could do whatever she wants. I'm not in here to say, like, you know, it has to be a certain way. There's all sorts of different relationship things that work for everybody. I. I do think, though, that all.

[Travis Kelsey]

Four of your girls are going to be going up to random guys. Just.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, I do. I do think that there are some. I do think, by and large there are some things that are very traditional, and they're traditional for reasons. And, like, it happens in a certain way because of, like, commitments. And I. I think that some of those roles have been in place for such a long time and they changed a lot.

[Travis Kelsey]

And they changed over time, for sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, there's nothing wrong with. A lot of them have changed, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the man proposing and that being the standard of two people agreeing to spend the rest of your lives together. And I also don't think it's wrong to ask the parents. Hand. I know that that's out of, like, what's considered the norm now, maybe. And it used to be, just ask the father. I do it. I mean, just ask both parents. But I think there's nothing wrong that if that's what you want to do. It sounds like to me, though, this guy might think that they've kind of already done that maybe. Like, you know what I mean?

[Travis Kelsey]

She's asking because she knows he's not going to.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think she's asked. She's like, I think he forgot to do this one step. Like, maybe he thinks he kind of did it, but he didn't. I would just drop hints like, oh, man, it's. I can't. Like, it'll be really interesting to see how you're going to propose whenever that, like, just do something like that and kind of see what happens. Like start responses.

[Travis Kelsey]

Instigate it.

[Jason Kelsey]

It sounds like she feels like she should be proposed to.

[Travis Kelsey]

If this sounds like your wife, go.

[Jason Kelsey]

And propose to her.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think that does it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. We would love to know how this resolves itself. So please call her. Please call us back when you get a final update on said proposal. Whether you do it, whether he does it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sorry we couldn't offer more help.

[Adam Sandler]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, we gotta, we gotta. We might have helped. This might get the train rolling.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's certain things I think are just like so traditional and done a certain way that, like, if they don't happen that way, a lot of the times I feel like it's a little cause for, like, concern in my end. But I realize everybody's different. Everybody has their own things, each his own. I got a sweaty ass right armpit. Everybody's kind of got their own stuff that they're dealing with. So.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, Audible's got. I mean the past couple weeks we've been doing some self awareness. First of all, Audible's got what you need in any category. They got a bunch of books on there that you can listen to. But yeah, we're, we're talking a little romance. What's your favorite romance novel, Jason?

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm not gonna lie, I've never read a romance novel.

[Travis Kelsey]

Harry Potter is very romantic.

[Jason Kelsey]

I guess everything kind of has a little bit of romance in it. But I ran that. I'm not against it. I've just never done it. There's a lot of unmatched romance novels out there in Audible. You want hysterical of stuff with dukes and carriages. Boom. Got it. Need a billionaire CEO who's absolutely crushing it in a boardroom. They got that too. What about a hockey goalie who scores your heart? That is something I could get behind. Once they said hockey. I'm in now.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

A 6 foot 1 quarterback out of Austin, Texas. He's the first ever walk on to win a Heisman trophy, the number one overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, two time Pro Bowler and the starting quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 92 percenters. Please welcome Mr. Baker Mayfield. Shake and bake. He's here. We got him.

[Travis Kelsey]

Finally got him.

[Baker Mayfield]

Watch out, Bruce Buffer. That was quite the intro there.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm coming for you.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, thanks. Thanks for joining us, dude. Taking some time off in the off season, brother.

[Baker Mayfield]

Absolutely.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's talk a little 20, 25 bucks. You're already probably in training camp, you know, what are you looking forward to this year with Tampa Bay?

[Baker Mayfield]

You know, I mean, we have all of our starters back on offense and we added some depth and a lot of the guys just because of last year had a lot of injuries on offense. Mike and Chris both went down, so just all the guys that had to play stepping up for us there's a, we have a lot of depth, so we have everybody back that started and then we have everybody back that was playing a lot for us. So I'm excited about that. And then just the, the new guys we added, we needed some help on defense, some new faces, some young guys. So there's, there's a lot new energy. Guys talking shit at practice, which is fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Always good.

[Baker Mayfield]

And Emeka Abuca is an absolute stud.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Baker Mayfield]

He's a real deal.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. What do you, what makes you say the.

[Travis Kelsey]

That.

[Baker Mayfield]

Okay. You know how you just can't teach guys leaving the ground to catch the ball. He's always grounded when he catches it, keeps moving. There's yak potential out the wazoo there. But he's just so damn smart. I mean he's willing to block, willing to do everything we asked him to do. But then, I mean we can plug and play him at any, any of the three receiver spots right now. Yeah, it's, it's pretty exciting.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean if he can go up and get a ball, Andy smart that I don't know what else you want in the receiver. I mean, God damn. That's two good traits right there. There.

[Baker Mayfield]

Exactly.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was one of coach Reed's biggest things as I, as I've been like through throughout my career as we were like acquiring like skill position guys or just like number one, number two, number three options. He was like, you get that three, three headed monster, three guys you can go to in man to man specifically like be able to kind of pick and choose whichever matchup you like the most. That's where the offense really takes off and it's just, it puts the defense in such a bind and then you add the two running backs you guys got.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay. In there. You kidding me?

[Baker Mayfield]

Come on.

[Travis Kelsey]

No gloves. Wonder dude. Dude. But, but seriously though, that's, that's one of the biggest things is keeping everybody healthy. Obviously. But you get three, three headed monster like that, you guys are going to put up some big numbers.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah. And by the way, it helps when you get your all five of your starting linemen back too. My goodness.

[Jason Kelsey]

I, I wanted to talk about this a little bit bit, you guys. Last year, I think if Chris Godwin doesn't get hurt and if Mike doesn't deal with the injuries he had, you guys were so well positioned, like you were peaking at the right moment. I think early on you guys were one of the best teams, but you just had the injuries. Like what is.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

What did you Feel about you guys last year? Do you feel the same way? Are you guys almost hungry to finish unfinished business? Does that make sense?

[Baker Mayfield]

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, obviously you mentioned that the injuries definitely didn't help us, but I feel like we're, we're built and we knew we were. When we're healthy, we're built to compete against the Eagles, the Lions, what we thought were the top contenders of the nfc. And then obviously Washington kind of came out of nowhere, but we felt really, really good about our matchups. And so, yeah, and when you, when you bring all those pieces back, you bring the vets in the locker room, Vita Antoine Levante, some of these guys we have on defense that have been staple points for these guys for the last however many years. Like, it's exciting. So, yeah, there's. There's unfinished business. And then, then you add in Hassan Redick and he showed up. Everybody made a big deal, but he showed up.

[Jason Kelsey]

He showed up.

[Baker Mayfield]

He's a great guy, too.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did he have the Samurai? I love Dude. Hos was a. I love him. I was a big fan of him in Philly. I know it kind of ended sour and the last year is what it is, but he's a great personality. He's good to have in the room. And I know freaking Bulls is going to be figuring out different ways to utilize a guy with that kind of skill set. So the offensive line was great last year. The running game was great. I loved what you guys were doing offensive, offensively and even just in the Eagles game, watching the different motions, how you guys attacked the flat, how you flooded different zones. I thought what you guys did offensively, what Cohen was doing, was some of the most exciting things in the NFL last year. How are you going to take this now with him leaving? You know, you got new oc Josh. What is it? Grizzard? Yeah, Grizzard in. How are you going to take this next year? Like, what's going to change?

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, I mean, there's, there's been very minor changes in terminology. Mostly just formation stuff. But I mean, he was in. He was in Miami for seven years, I think. And so his whole background is motioning to get Tyreek and some of these other guys open, how to beat cover two, how to get Mike open. Really, it's like his. It translates to that. Then you add in some of the gap schemes that we've been really good at and what they do did in Miami, I mean, we kept our offensive line coaches, so they're doing the run game stuff as well. So it's I mean, it's. It's still the motion base. Like make the defense communicate, really see if we can make them one dimensional. If we get a beat on that, can we keep doing it over and over again to fix it?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, man, it was, it was fun to watch. It really was. All year long. Except for when you were playing the Eagles. That was not fun to watch. That was a frustrating game offensively for us to watch. But what has it been about you in Tampa? I mean, you've. You've played well at times everywhere you've been, but in Tampa, it's really gone to that next level. What do you think has led to that?

[Baker Mayfield]

That, you know, I. This isn't to. On the other team franchises.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, man, you already know. You already know, man, you got to do.

[Baker Mayfield]

But like, when you step in and your GM and your head coach say, hey, just be you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

After I've been told at every stop and everywhere I go, hey, you need to tone it down a little bit. You need to be a franchise quarterback. It's just not who I am. Like, I wear my emotions on my sleeves. We've hung out. You guys know me. I'm going to talk, I'm going to do whatever, but when it's time to turn the lights on and go do something, I'm gonna do it. So when I stepped into the building, they all told me to just be myself. And so it's been. Not to say like comfortable, but it's felt like home since the beginning. And as a quarterback that's been through a little bit of a journey, you can't ask for anything else.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hell yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, dude. Well, talk about a guy that's being himself, man. Liam Cohen, he took a little bit of heat over there at the. Took a chance, turned through a lot of guys. He's a great dude, man. What did, what was he for your career last year in Tampa?

[Baker Mayfield]

Unbelievable. And yeah, I love the end of death. I still talk to him probably once every week, but we stay in touch. He's just. He was so instrumental. I mean, when I got to la, really the next level for me, learning the game of football, whether it was him, McVeigh and Zach Robinson all in that room together and then, then obviously getting to spend more time with Liam last year, just the expectations of what the quarterback position demands of you and making sure we're all on the same page and doing all that. So he was unbelievable for me and, you know, the trajectory of my career. But, yeah, I just keep losing these offensive coordinators I keep taking these head coaching jobs.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey, that's what happens when you're a really good quarterback that keeps stealing those. They think they're the reason. We all know Baker.

[Travis Kelsey]

Baker's out here dicing it up out there. I'm the problem.

[Baker Mayfield]

They might be the reason. I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

You've been through a lot of different coaches, a lot of different ocs. What, in your opinion is the most important thing when you have a new OC coming in to establish the offense?

[Baker Mayfield]

You know, obviously you guys have been in this for a while. The egos, putting your ego to the side. How do I, how do I drop that? What does he really want to get done and what do I feel comfortable with, you know, schematically wise? What do, what do I know I want to have in that there, but then also can I learn and get really good at what he wants to do? And so there's, there's always meeting in the middle and it's, you know, there's, there's old school coaching and then there's, there's new guys that might be pushovers. There's somewhere in the middle there that, you know, transition for me, the last couple years has been great, whether it was Dave Canales, Liam, and now Grizz. So it's, there's somewhere in the middle where they, they get to know me. They understand that at a certain point I'm not going to be like, I need this place play, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and find a way to make it work. And so, yeah, it's, it's meeting in the middle. Dropping the ego.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it feels like there's always that in between. It feels like with the play caller trying to do what he thinks is open or what he likes. And then at the same time of like, at the end of the day, the players have to execute it and they're the ones that have to feel comfortable. And that's definitely a two way street to navigate. And the best ones figure it out. They know how to get the best out of the quarterback and how to get, get and attack the areas that they see for sure.

[Baker Mayfield]

And I think just having, having answers at the line of scrimmage and I think that's something, you know, Tom Moore, bless his soul, he's. He's still coaching with us. I mean, he's going on year 47, I think 46 or 47, coaching in the NFL. He tells stories about Peyton Manning always being like, okay, well, what if they do this?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

And he Would always quiz him about having answers. And so that's. I think that's another thing. The coordinator trusting the quarterback enough to give them answers and allow them at the line of scrimmage to make adjustments and that, that's a big deal. But then talking through it with the rest of the group so they're not completely caugh off guard. Like hey guys, if we get this, I'm going to check to this.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. I had an offensive coordinator once describe play calling should be like if then statements where it's like if the defense does this, then we do this. And when you have a quarter, the trick is having a quarterback that can read and identify and know what they want to get into that are familiar. Especially in the run game. Like those decisions that have to be made. Not all the time. The quarterbacks are in tune with that. How much, much freedom do you get in Tampa? Like what is. Are you changing route concepts, protections, run, are you doing all of it? Or is there like kind of like a. A system within you and what is it? Barton, the center or the other coaches on game day? How does that work?

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, so I mean the system we're in normally always comes in with the two calls and so obviously taking, taking the best look, best advantage. Whether it's. It's run to run, run to pass, pass to run. So whatever it is, making sure we have that. But then Grizz will give me command to be able to check to a screen.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Or just get out of it. We always have cover zero answers. All that stuff built into the plan. But a big part of that when you asked about it, Graham Barton and I just watching film all the blitz pickup meetings that QBs and centers, the O line has to do throughout the week. But just making sure that we're on the same page. And that's like you said, it's the players have to make it work. And so if he sees something before me, he'll turn around and say hey, do you want to get to this? And then if not then I'll to to move it around. But yeah, it's. It's making sure we're on the same page.

[Jason Kelsey]

Love it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah. Going up against a guy like Todd Bowles and Levante David, man, the guy just understands offensive schemes. They're always well planned. Well they always have like that extra you know, tick of like what we're trying to do. How crazy is it going up against those two? And in like a practice or a training camp, the competition has to be through the roof. Are you And Levante, are you guys talking shit to each other the whole time or what? What?

[Baker Mayfield]

I mean, Tay doesn't say anything, so I would love to, but. But it's. When we practice against our defense, like, this is absolute. They're showing a single high look with the safety in between the hashes. They're bringing double cat and rolling that safety three yards into that. I'm like, you guys will never do that in a game. What are you doing?

[Jason Kelsey]

I tell you, they do do that.

[Travis Kelsey]

They do do that.

[Baker Mayfield]

I must be mfing my. My iPad or surface on the sideline when I. When they're doing it.

[Jason Kelsey]

We played an entire playoff game, maybe two of them, where it was like, it felt like goal line defense just the entire second. Like, how the hell are we defending the pass and the run right now? Todd? I don't know what you're doing to get both of these accomplished.

[Baker Mayfield]

He's pretty hard with Vita in the middle, too.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, Vita's easy. You know, he's just, what, 400 pounds and moves like a linebacker? No, it's great. But how much more comfortable on you on. On game day having seen all that? Like, and I feel the same way with Vic to a certain extent in Philly, like, when you play a team that you never see that, like a six man free front on first down on. And it messes with so many of your concepts. Like, you guys get to see it every day. You're gonna see the. The diamond mugs. You're going to see the five man fronts, the six man fronts. You're going to see nickel with, like, five big guys. You're going to see all of it. So on game day, how does that feel knowing you've already had reps against all of it?

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, it's good when. When it comes to preparation, seeing like, okay, I've seen this look before, this front where everybody's lined up. But what I have to revert back to is like, okay, in practice, they'll completely show it one way, and then roll the safety down Troy Palomalu style, roll him back to the middle of the field. So sometimes on game day, I have to dumb it down a little bit is what I get. I'm not trying to play the chess game. I'm just, okay, I see this. All right, let's make this move.

[Jason Kelsey]

I used to do the same. So Jim Schwartz used to do this all the time in training camp. I don't even know if he ever did it in a game. There'd be like six guys into the Boundary, that would tell you, like, it has to be four to a side. And then he blitzed the nickel. Like, nobody him. So, like, it took me, like, two training camps to figure out that every time they did this, it was a nickel blitz. So then I started picking it up, and Jim's like, there's no way you see that in a game. Like, there's no way you're calling that in the game. Like, what are you talking.

[Travis Kelsey]

Leave the slot, wide ass.

[Jason Kelsey]

What are we talking about, man? We're taking chances, you know, but it's the same thing. You get into a game, it's like, oh, wait, no, now this actually is.

[Travis Kelsey]

Coming from the boundary, but you already know Sp Spags is another one where he'll throw something wild at you and he'll disguise it really well. And, yeah, what it really trains is those instinctual. The. The quick wit and instinctual decisions to not panic, not be like, oh, that's not it. What is it? And, like, now you're like two steps behind in terms of your rhythm and. And the concept of the play, but it trains those, like, those instincts to be able to just always have that plan in place. And, man, it's a. It's a luxury going up against good DCs and cancer bags does.

[Baker Mayfield]

His timing is unreal.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is.

[Baker Mayfield]

When he brings the pressure. That's the difference. He knows exactly when to bring it.

[Travis Kelsey]

He keeps that joker in the back pocket. Sets it up.

[Baker Mayfield]

Sets it up. He keeps on the holster. Damn it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Love that guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

So Tush push is still in effect. Have you guys been working on quarterback sneaks? And Tush pushes this season more.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. Tell us your playbook.

[Baker Mayfield]

No, we haven't been practicing the touch push, but daddy can squat the house.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go.

[Jason Kelsey]

He said he doesn't need the push this week, boys. Doesn't need to push too far.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go. You guys are pretty good just handing that thing off. All right, now. There you go.

[Baker Mayfield]

Just. Yeah, go ahead, Buck you, Rashad, just go get one.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude. The season that guy had, did you see it coming? You know, there's certain guys in camp and certain guys in the offseason where you're just like, we need to start dialing some up for that guy right there. Was he one of them, or did it kind of like grow as he got comfortable?

[Baker Mayfield]

It definitely grew. Obviously, when you're not. When you're in practice, not in a game, you're not getting tackled to the ground. So it was hard to see how many tackles he's going to miss or make miss. He's just so elusive. He's a. He's a phone booth guy. You can be right in front of him and he's slippery as hell, and he just keeps fighting at low center of gravity. Good balance. And so, yeah, just having him and Rashad just like, obviously I thought Rashad was looking really, really good before the season last year. And I was like, oh, Rashad saw our workhorse. Bucky's going to be great. Get him in there for some screen game and whatnot. Well, then all of a sudden, Bucky was our run guy and Rashad was great in pass pro and in the screen game, too. It's just like they. They play off of each other and they're in their good buddies. So that works.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, man. There's some guys like. I remember when. When Tyreek Hill came in and you saw that speed, it was like the first seven on seven that we had, he caught the ball and just. It just hit the highway. And I was like, what the was that? And. And then there's guys like, like a. Like a Kareem Hunt where he. He would get the ball in like a. An off season, like run or in like the flat or something. And you see him running be like, all right, man. All right, we'll see. We'll see. And then the game happens and he is just like, no, no, keep feeding them. Keep feeding them. Keep giving that dude the ball.

[Baker Mayfield]

He's a sicko.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's so crazy how in the off season you just never know until that game starts or. Or when you. Until like you like, put those pads on. Like, is there any. Is there anybody you ever played with in the off season where you immediately were like, yep, that's the guy.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah. I mean, there's. There's been a few. I mean, Jarvis Landry was one of them. That some of the catches he would make with his Grinch hands that are unbelievable, man. Some of the catches he could do. I'm like, what is that? Josh Gordon was. Dude, an absolute.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is such a.

[Baker Mayfield]

Sure.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's such a shame that his career. Career got derailed the way it did. None of that would have happened in today's NFL, right? Like, no, no, it's. I don't know, man. It sucks. He was such an electric player for Cleveland, too. Great.

[Travis Kelsey]

We had him in Casey for a while. He's a great dude.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let me ask you this before we get to the career rewind. How can we fix the quarterback situation in Cleveland? What is going on, Baker? There's evidence. I mean, the jersey is now a list of 25 people. Is it a curse? What? Like, why can we not get this right? Who draft you? The best quarterback in college history overall. What's going on? What's happening?

[Baker Mayfield]

Listen, I plead the fifth, but I don't know when. When I was healthy, yeah, I was starting to get pretty damn good there.

[Travis Kelsey]

But there you go.

[Baker Mayfield]

Not my problem anymore.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right now. All right now. Well, let's. Let's take a little career rewind and take it back to college, man. You. You walked on at Texas Tech and were. Everybody knows this now was. You hosted Pat Mahomes on his official visit out there.

[Baker Mayfield]

He had a good time.

[Travis Kelsey]

You had a good time out there in Lubbock, Texas. What, what, what made you want to go to Texas Tech?

[Baker Mayfield]

Well, I was honestly in state tuition.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, there you go.

[Baker Mayfield]

I had a couple. I had a couple scholarships, but I wanted to play Big D, one ball. Cliff Kingsbury had recruited me when he was at Houston. And then Eric Morris, who was the offensive coordinator when I got to Tech, was with Mike Leach at Washington State. And they had offered me. So there was a couple familiar faces. The quarterback that was before me in high school was also at Tech. So I was like, okay, familiar people. System's going to be easy to pick up. I'll be right. I just took a chance and I was going to go play baseball, too.

[Travis Kelsey]

How about it, man? What can't he do?

[Baker Mayfield]

I can't play basketball. Basketball is not good. Not good.

[Travis Kelsey]

What. What position were you on the diamond?

[Baker Mayfield]

I played anywhere, honestly, in the infield, but I just like to hit. Swing lefty. Quick, quick first step to first base on base guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

You. You swing at the first pitch guy. Or you kind of like take the first pitch. Kind of wait to see what you're looking at.

[Baker Mayfield]

Come on now. You don't take the first pitch.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's an old school mentality.

[Baker Mayfield]

Come out, swing it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm hammering the first pitch. Fastball. No, it's coming, coming.

[Baker Mayfield]

I love it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Especially when we were younger.

[Jason Kelsey]

So you walked, you walked on at Texas Tech.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yep. Walked on a Tech.

[Jason Kelsey]

When you said you had other offers, were they division like one, Double A, Division two or. These are other ones. Washington State.

[Baker Mayfield]

Washington State. My first one was Rice to play baseball and football.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Baker Mayfield]

And I think Army, New Mexico, shout out, Lobos.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay.

[Baker Mayfield]

Washington State and Florida Atlantic.

[Jason Kelsey]

So, yeah, you were similar to me except for all of my division offers were Division 2. But anyways, so you.

[Baker Mayfield]

I think you're doing all Right.

[Jason Kelsey]

If the nil thing would have been different when you were coming out, would you have changed anything? Would you have maybe gone with, like. Because now you can transfer if you play well, like one of these lower tiered, like, schools that aren't in one of the bigger conferences. You can.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason, he did transfer well.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, but, I mean, that wasn't. It was a different.

[Baker Mayfield]

It was a different Sit out of here, though.

[Jason Kelsey]

Exactly. It was different rules.

[Travis Kelsey]

Good point. Good point.

[Baker Mayfield]

Different rules. I don't think it would have changed my mentality. I still wanted to play big time ball, and I'm pretty damn happy I don't have the nil thing. I might be dead if that money was coming in when I was in college.

[Travis Kelsey]

Are you kidding me? If I would have got anywhere. Some of these dudes. We're talking to some of these guys at tight end.

[Jason Kelsey]

You.

[Travis Kelsey]

Some of these guys are getting 100 grand, 200 grand worth of nil. Dude, if I was getting that much.

[Jason Kelsey]

Money, Travis, that's nothing compared to what I'm getting. What are you talking about? Millions of dollars.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm talking about in the tight end world. That alone. Six figures at that age.

[Baker Mayfield]

It's wild. Wild.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Kelsey]

What do you think a young Baker Mayfield would have got at Oklahoma?

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not money wise. Like, what would you be. What would you have bought? What would you have done with that money?

[Baker Mayfield]

I would have gotten a nice football house for the fellows.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. This is why. Why has anybody tried to change you? Why has anybody tried to change Baker Mayfield?

[Baker Mayfield]

Not necessarily as far into the Blue Mountain State spectrum, but like a football.

[Travis Kelsey]

House classic for the boys. You got to go full Blue Mountain.

[Jason Kelsey]

State that we got a football house. In Cincinnati, it was Blue Mountain State. Well, the first one I got, we. We found like, this huge house on the wrong side of Clif Clifton's campus, which has since been. It's. It's a much nicer side. The rent was dirt cheap. We're like, oh, man, this is a steal. We're getting this ginormous house for dirt cheap. And we beat the crap out of it. I mean, we had six guys in there, bunch of parties, and then we did the same thing over at our offensive lineman, our teammate, his parents built a house. Shout out to the Davises. The Davises. But, yeah, big fan of the football houses. I mean, you're not. I feel like in recruiting, if you see a great player who also lived at a football house, I'm getting that guy every day of the week. I want that guy on My team.

[Travis Kelsey]

Day and always wants to be around the team.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't want the valedictorian that with the class over again, like 15 different classes. I want the guy that did the minimum work and freaking was. Yeah. What are we talking about?

[Baker Mayfield]

I want the guy that I know he threw in for beer money.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Did a beer run every now and then.

[Baker Mayfield]

Put one on for the fellas.

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Do you still hold grudges from being a walk on? Like, do you think about the quarterbacks that did get these big school offers that you felt like you were better than? Do you keep names? Is there a list somewhere?

[Baker Mayfield]

I used to keep a list. It's a lot, A lot of anger to pin to this. You said 6:1 when you gave me the intro. I'm just trying to. I'm trying to get the 6 one. If I stretch, there's a lot of anger to keep in this Napoleon complex body. You know what I mean? Can't do that. But yeah, I know exactly who was ranked ahead of me. A lot of them aren't.

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, they're not playing anymore.

[Baker Mayfield]

Pretty much all of them aren't playing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, there you go. There you go.

[Baker Mayfield]

It's all right.

[Travis Kelsey]

We got to talk about. We got to talk about 2016, Texas Tech versus OU. So when you, when you transferred, was it like you just wanted to go to a different situation or you got out of there for, you know, a coaching reason or what? What made you transfer to OU?

[Baker Mayfield]

The first five games I started at Texas Tech, we were 5 1/2, 5th game or 6 game, I can't remember at this point, we were playing Kansas. I sprained my mcl. Minor sprain, though. I was going to be back in three weeks and one of them was a bye week. So I was like, okay, I'm going to miss two games, come back, get my job back. And when I came back, they had other plans. Davis Webb was playing, starting, and they just said they were going to roll with him. And I was like, okay, well, I'll just sit here and wait it out. We started out seven and oh. So Davis won two games, bye week. And I was healthy to come back the next one one. And then we lost, I think four or five in a row. And I was like. At that point I went in and talked to Cliff and it's like, hey, like, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Regardless, do you think there's a plan to have me on scholarship next off season or like in the spring? He's like, no, we don't have one then. And I don't like bringing up stories like that because Cliff and I are good now. We've talked about it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, sure.

[Baker Mayfield]

And he was like, no, we don't have one in the spring, and we're still working on one for the fall. I was like, what? I thought I was your starting quarterback. You don't have a scholarship.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, five and. Oh, what are we talking to? Are you talking 5 and O in the Big 12? What are we doing?

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah. At that point I was like, you know, my heart was never ended at Texas Tech. I just went there because it was convenient. And I grew up an OU fan, so I was like, okay, at this point, I know I can play with the big dogs in D1.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, you should proved it.

[Baker Mayfield]

I'm gonna take my chance and go transfer to ou. And then my transfer got blocked by Tech, and so I had to sit out a year, which honestly was probably the best thing for me. Got to go through a season of, you know, just doing scout team workouts and enjoying that. And so I. I had a blast. And it wound up working out exactly how it should have.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, man.

[Baker Mayfield]

Ended up where I wanted to be.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's crazy how sometimes the things that you feel like, it's. It's. It's things that are ruining your career end up being like the best things that have ever happened. Right. Like, it's just. Yeah. So, yeah, I can assimilate very much.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah. You know, I'm. You're preaching to the choir over here, brother. I still. I still think I could be an NFL quarter quarterback.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, man, I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

You're over two, right?

[Baker Mayfield]

You and your laterals.

[Jason Kelsey]

The lateral king is Travis frozen. What's going on?

[Baker Mayfield]

He's frozen on mine. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, no. Brandon, you want to run a technical support system right here?

[Baker Mayfield]

Everything I got was like, charge it. Make sure it's fully charged. If not, have it plugged in.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't think Travis has read an email in a very long time.

[Baker Mayfield]

You might be a West coast, but the problem is you're fucking shooting shirt. What are you wearing?

[Travis Kelsey]

What do you mean? What do you mean?

[Jason Kelsey]

What do you mean? So he lives on the west coast. This is. Brandon is intern. Brandon is from Texas, so it's not a right.

[Baker Mayfield]

Where are you from?

[Travis Kelsey]

That's just outside of Dallas. Frisco.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, Scotty Scheffler guy. Dallas.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, whatever.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know, you're not my problem. Till October.

[Baker Mayfield]

All right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Well, Travis, welcome back. Oh, sorry, boys. Got that laptop plugged in.

[Jason Kelsey]

I love you. He's already. He went out.

[Baker Mayfield]

He's frozen again.

[Jason Kelsey]

God damn it.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, God.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you serious?

[Travis Kelsey]

We had a good run there.

[Baker Mayfield]

Can we get him some new WI fi?

[Travis Kelsey]

Every season of the show. It's just a limp to the end.

[Jason Kelsey]

We're getting there. We're gonna make it.

[Travis Kelsey]

We're gonna make it fast.

[Jason Kelsey]

This episode's electric so far, so it's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, keep going. 2016 Texas Tech OU. The most legendary offensive football game known to man. Patty Mahomes versus Baker Mayfield. You got to tell us, what was that game like while you were in. While you were actually in it.

[Baker Mayfield]

So, like, my first time back to LCK as a player was crazy. And, you know, like, the fans were chanting Fu Baker. And, like, there's probably. At the Jones. You can probably hold 68. 70,000.

[Travis Kelsey]

Okay, I bet.

[Baker Mayfield]

I bet 45,000 of them were chanting Fu Baker. You can hear it on, like, the TV copy. It's. It was good. It was electric.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's got to get you fired up, though.

[Baker Mayfield]

Nipples could cut, like, cut glass on those. No, I loved it, but, I mean, the. The fact that I feel like it was Oklahoma versus Pat. We had to score a touchdown every single drive in the second half just to win the game. I'm like, what the hell is this? He had over, I think, like, 813 or 819 yards total.

[Travis Kelsey]

819.

[Jason Kelsey]

The official stat line. The official stat lines for both of these freaking unbelievable legends. Mahomes, 52 of 88. That's a lot of pass attempts. 88 pass attempts.

[Travis Kelsey]

Are you 88?

[Jason Kelsey]

How does arm not fall off? 734 yards. Yards. 819 total yards, five touchdowns. Shaken Bake Baker, 27 to 36. Much more normal, proficient line. I mean, Jesus Christ. 545 yards.

[Travis Kelsey]

Not so normal.

[Jason Kelsey]

564 total. Seven touchdowns. Dude, what the. This is like a basketball score. That's 66 to 59.

[Baker Mayfield]

That was wild.

[Jason Kelsey]

What did you say to the. What was. What was being said to your guys defense at the start? Sideline like that? Can we get.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just give us one. One?

[Baker Mayfield]

Just one. Just one, please. No, it honestly was a matter of who had the ball last. I mean, that's. That's the type of game it was. I mean, it was crazy. Atmosphere was unbelievable. There was a couple easy completions there that Joe Mixon took to the house. Some things.

[Travis Kelsey]

Team game.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, team game. I'm a team guy. Football House kind of guy. Guy. No, we had. We had a beat on beer run kind of guy. Yeah. Paint your back porch. Anything you want. No, but it was. It was unreal, but yeah, it was just like, hey, guys, just give us one. Give us one and we're good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Crazy, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

This has got to be the greatest quarterback due of all time in college football.

[Travis Kelsey]

All time.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, and they. The Texas Tech, they throw the tortillas down on the field.

[Jason Kelsey]

What kind of tortillas?

[Travis Kelsey]

You got to tell us. I don't know about this.

[Baker Mayfield]

Pat hasn't told you guys about this?

[Travis Kelsey]

This I feel like I heard it from. From one of my guys.

[Baker Mayfield]

An old tradition they like. It's like an old tradition. They'll. They'll bring tortillas in, like on the kickoff, they'll throw them in on the field.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, we're talking soft shell or hard? Soft shell.

[Baker Mayfield]

Soft shell. Soft shell. Flour? No, Corn too flimsy. Wind will get it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

So flowers are getting thrown and they're. They're pretty damn stale. And there's also no telling how because they tried to ban it, but the kids will sneak them in anyway. There's no telling where they hide these things. They threw one down there on the field. I looked up, saw the guy who threw it, took a bite out of it.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a baller move.

[Baker Mayfield]

Didn't get sick.

[Jason Kelsey]

No. But you sent a message. Yeah. Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

I will eat you for lunch.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Travis Kelsey]

You think of them. You think I'm scared of a tatilla? You think I'm scared of a tatilla? Out of here. Yeah. Let's ask some about some of your OU teammates, though, man. I'm big fans of. Of one of my guys that I'm still playing with today, Creed Humphrey. You got to give me. What was Creed like in college?

[Jason Kelsey]

He was a football house guy, right?

[Baker Mayfield]

Football house guy.

[Travis Kelsey]

Football house guy. Nice. Beer run kind of guy. Nice.

[Baker Mayfield]

You have to make two with. The first one is for himself because he could drink a case of beer by himself. And then the second one was for the fellas. Absolute monster, all state wrestler. Absolute stud coming in. I didn't know sinners could be left handed. I thought that was. Was just completely banned. I mean, we didn't have anything under center at Oklahoma, but we had, you know, like taking a knee or like a goal line play. And so when Creed would have to go in, we'd be like, hey, Creed, you have to snap with your right hand. So we tried to teach him under center how to snap with his right hand. I couldn't do it. I can't go both ways, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

No chance.

[Jason Kelsey]

I can. In no capacity, in no capacity could.

[Travis Kelsey]

You snap left handed. Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's no. There's no chance. I can't do the simplest of tasks that I do every night. Night. I couldn't do it at all. Left handed. I'm not great at it, dude. I. It is honestly comical the level of uncoordination I have with my left hand. Like, I. There's guys that'll go in there, like shoot basketballs left handed or throw left handed. I. I don't know what it is. I can't. The only thing I could do is I could. When I played lacrosse, I got to the point that I could shoot a lacrosse ball left handed and like stick in a left handed. But outside of that, that, no chance. And we did the same thing. We had a left handed center in Philly that we tried to teach right handed and he somehow got it down. But it is something that. It's a great point. Like how much of a difference is it to the point that they teach guys literally to do it with their offhand? Because why would you ever do that unless it actually made that big of a difference?

[Baker Mayfield]

I don't. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the angle of what it comes up, but yeah, it just. It felt weird.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Does it feel weird in shotgun two or only underneath?

[Baker Mayfield]

Well, I mean, Creed snaps it like you hard as so nice. I mean, the sp. It's honestly respect when you're looking at it. When you're looking at it, it looks weird, but it's fine.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Baker Mayfield]

It's just with like. You're so used to the spin coming a certain way and then all of a sudden it's coming a different way. It's like, wait.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go.

[Travis Kelsey]

Cuts the wind a little different.

[Jason Kelsey]

What was it like playing with Mark Andrew?

[Travis Kelsey]

Marky Andrews, baby.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, Mark, that.

[Travis Kelsey]

What a guy.

[Baker Mayfield]

You want to talk about anger problems? Mark's got some anger problems, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

Even when I've only talked to him a couple times and I feel like he's mad at me about something I don't even know. I feel like I didn't do anything wrong to him. What did I do?

[Baker Mayfield]

I mean. I mean, one of my. One of my best friends, but he will not talk to me during football season. Will not. He was in our wedding and won't talk to me during football season. We used to play him twice a year. I'd say after the game be like, hey, how you doing? Doing like, don't, don't, don't come up to me. Like, we've never talked before. Yeah, I've drank way too many Red Bull vodkas with you at Log's and Norman for you to act like that in front of me.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. What is.

[Baker Mayfield]

I love him to death.

[Travis Kelsey]

My God's all about bald dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, is this like a. You'll text him and he just doesn't respond? Or is this just. Oh my gosh, come on.

[Baker Mayfield]

I'll reach out. I'll reach out to his brother. Just locked in.

[Travis Kelsey]

My guy's locked in.

[Baker Mayfield]

I mean, there's locked in. There's been a psycho. My goodness.

[Travis Kelsey]

Sometimes there's only one way to do.

[Baker Mayfield]

All ball for sure.

[Travis Kelsey]

Talk about a guy. Had to persevere through some things last year with the injuries and everything, man. Still comes up huge late in the, late in the season for. For Baltimore men, the two headed monster, they got in. In the tight end room. Really Three headed monster. And then you add the, the rhinoceros they have at fullback. That. That offense is insane, man.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, it's unbelievable.

[Travis Kelsey]

Cleveland.

[Baker Mayfield]

When I was in Cleveland, just watching them, I'm like, oh, man, we're not getting the ball back. They're just gonna run.

[Travis Kelsey]

They're about to milk.

[Baker Mayfield]

They're in 15 personnel. It's not even possible.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

What do we do?

[Baker Mayfield]

It's not easy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's work it back to the 2018 draft. As we said earlier in this episode, number one overall pick to our beloved Cleveland Browns. When did you know you were going to go 1 overall?

[Baker Mayfield]

Not till that phone call.

[Jason Kelsey]

Really?

[Travis Kelsey]

So cool.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wow. Because I feel like a lot of the times hardly hear that.

[Travis Kelsey]

I feel like you hardly hear that.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, no, I. And like now knowing John Dorsey.

[Jason Kelsey]

John Dorsey, baby.

[Baker Mayfield]

The legend himself. He's the best. Now knowing him, I could probably have said, okay, I'm gonna. I'm going to Cleveland. But before that, I wouldn't have known. I mean, just. It was a standard, standard meeting meeting. And I say that because Dorsey at the combine. So when I got. I got arrested before my senior year in 2017. No, it was Fayetteville, Arkansas. A little, little dose of public intoxication.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's not him.

[Baker Mayfield]

Restaurants were in public. You should be able to drink. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Would you have a few too many at Arby's? I'd be Applebee's.

[Baker Mayfield]

I don't know where I was man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen, if you have. If you have a few too many at Arby's, that is a red flag. If you're drinking at Arby's.

[Baker Mayfield]

Can you drink at Arby's?

[Jason Kelsey]

No, you can't. That's why it's red flag.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm at Applebee's.

[Jason Kelsey]

My bad.

[Baker Mayfield]

But when I walked in at the combine train station interview, and I mean, everybody's in that tiny little room, jam packed. I walk in, first thing I hear is, you like food trucks. Because I got arrested right after going to a food truck in Arkansas, and it was Dorsey. And so now knowing that he was probably just seeing how I would react.

[Jason Kelsey]

Act.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah, whatever.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, of course.

[Baker Mayfield]

I love food trucks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Love them. What are you talking about?

[Travis Kelsey]

Street meat. Street meat can get a little dicey.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't. Come on, Travis, you don't need food.

[Travis Kelsey]

Get a little dicey, you know, depends on if I'm publicly intoxicated or not.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I'm not gonna lie. I would go up to damn near any food vendor. All right. Other first round quarterbacks drafted in that draft, dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell of a draft. Are you kidding me?

[Jason Kelsey]

Sam Darnold, number three, Josh Allen, number seven, Josh Rosen, number 10. Then Lamar Jackson, number 32. That's a hell of a draft class.

[Baker Mayfield]

For QBs, the squad.

[Travis Kelsey]

Isn't it funny to think about they were gonna try. Everybody was trying to convince Lamar to not play quarterback. Isn't that hilarious?

[Baker Mayfield]

Wild.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, holy. I can't. I can't imagine, like, what. I mean, he keeps getting better every single year. I can understand if they were trying to make an excuse just because of how athletic he was. Was. But his arm talent is arguably just as good as his ability to move around. It's insane.

[Jason Kelsey]

You can sling it.

[Baker Mayfield]

He does get better every year. And like, he's always had the arm strength. And also when you can't tackle him, you throw it wherever you want. It's just gotten better.

[Jason Kelsey]

He has made people look straight stupid.

[Baker Mayfield]

Rip to Josh Rosen. Just telling everybody there's nine, nine, nine mistakes ahead of him.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ah, dude, I feel like one of the last times I saw Johnny D, he was. He was working Josh Rosen out at ucla. And guess who was running routes for him. Terrell Owens. To was out there running routes frozen during his, like, pro day.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Which Tio could still run some routes.

[Jason Kelsey]

He could still.

[Travis Kelsey]

Listen, the go ball. How? Give that. Give him the go ball. Ball all day. He can still hawk down a go ball. I promise you, man, I'll see him in passing. Here and there. Because we got the same trainer out in la and he'll. He'll let me know, like, hey, man, make sure you let. Let Big Red. No, I can still run routes. I'm just like, I will, dude. I've seen it, dude. It's like a lot of these old guys will say that, like, I'm good for one game and then to is like full on. Like, no, I could play a whole season guaranteed.

[Jason Kelsey]

You were claimed off of waivers by the Carolina Panthers, then played a game in 48 hours for the Los Angeles Rams.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, that game was so electric.

[Jason Kelsey]

Not only played one.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, not just one. I was about to say, yeah, leading a fourth quarter cup. Dude, that was so epic. I was at. I was at the house jumping through the roof like, get a bake.

[Jason Kelsey]

Get a B.

[Travis Kelsey]

Throwing dimes all over the field. Field, I think. What was it? Jefferson, I think was your van.

[Baker Mayfield]

Jefferson.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, dude. Dude had a great game. You guys were connecting all the time. How crazy was that, though, to come in midweek? Like.

[Baker Mayfield]

Like wild.

[Jason Kelsey]

What are you even doing in two minute drill? Because two minute is all, like, signals. How does that even happen? How did you communicate the play? Did you remember the play where they were like, giving and he's a professional.

[Travis Kelsey]

Of course he remembered.

[Jason Kelsey]

48 hours, though.

[Travis Kelsey]

Travis.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, I don't understand. All right, good. Sorry.

[Baker Mayfield]

You're good. But it's wild having to rush to the airport because I got a call from lesson less. Need Sean McVeigh. Like, hey, we'd love to get you out here earlier to see if you can possibly play Thursday. And I was like, fuck. So I rushed to the airport, catch the last flight I possibly can. I mean, I just cleared waivers and got picked up. Get on the flight, get out there. I'm on. Get the west coast. I get to the facility at 10pm so it's me, Liam Cohen and Zach Robinson and Sean McVeigh going through. Through what they have offensively. Luckily, protection wise, I was good Bill Callahan system. Like, I was. I was good on protection wise. Terminology, all that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Perfect.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Baker Mayfield]

If you can eliminate that eliminates a big part of it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, did that.

[Baker Mayfield]

After that, I was cramming for a SAT or act. Just a lot of memorization. Just. Just know that these are two by two formations. These are three by one. These are one by three.

[Jason Kelsey]

I was like, okay, cool.

[Baker Mayfield]

Like, other than that, like, those guys will get lined up. So other than, like, I'm having to memorize concepts and whatnot and I mean, they were like, okay, what you really need to memorize is our, like, no huddle stuff, because we think you can do that. You need to memorize that. And then I'll be damned. Had to. Had to learn it for the last.

[Travis Kelsey]

Under two minutes right into it, dude. For a game winner, Sean McVeigh, though I'd say it all the time, man, I was. He was one of my favorite coaches I had. I got a pleasure to meet with coming out when he was over at It's. As a tight end coach at D.C. how fucking crazy was. Was it jumping into, like, a short week like that? Like, he already talks fast. How. I can only imagine when the time is crunched, how fast he's ripping those, like, concepts and. And. And reads and all that.

[Baker Mayfield]

And I still give him because he talks fast. And they were like, sean, we're gonna have to make Baker a wristband for the game. So they had, like. They had, like, 76 plays on there, which was a lot for me to learn. 24 hours.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

He didn't call a single playoff. That wristband, and I'll still give him hell about it, but, I mean, just an unbelievable guy. What you see is what you get. He's always that energy, always. And it's just. He's a great dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

Great dude, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a completely different system. Like, was. I know that you said the office line terminology was the same. Were. Were the concepts were. Like, everything that they were doing, was it completely foreign or was there at least somewhat of a crossover? Where was it at?

[Baker Mayfield]

It was like it was memorizing the past concepts because you can't exactly reinvent the wheel on it. But I had a good idea for it. But, I mean, some of these play calls, I was like, I've never said that many words in my life, dude. Not even in a speech. How many words can you possibly put before you say can?

[Jason Kelsey]

How do you feel about the long verbiage? I couldn't stand it. When I was in the huddle, whenever the quarterback sounded like he was saying a short story, I'd be like, dude, we got. Can we shorten this down to, like, a one word? Like, we know. If it's got that many motions, just call it fucking shenanigans.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't. We would.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, you can. You can. I don't want to hear this. It would drive me crazy.

[Baker Mayfield]

Like, the first play they taught me was like, Z. Moto south right? Close. F Short. We got. All right, we got 16 Waffle Ski Canada with 17 TIFF. I was like, what the.

[Travis Kelsey]

Is that what?

[Jason Kelsey]

Perfect. It's perfect. All right, jot that one down. What's the next one? All right, we got 72 more to go.

[Baker Mayfield]

Got it all up here in the noggin.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice safety rotation. Understood. Oh man. We got one more. One more segment. We call it. We gotta ask but you don't have to answer. You can just tell off, dude. So we'll just be rapid firing them at you, dude. First one I got for you after you got signed by the bucks to follow the. The goat, Tom Brady. Did you get any advice from Tom?

[Baker Mayfield]

No.

[Jason Kelsey]

Solid.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're a savvy vet. You don't need it, you know. Hey Tom, where's the best spot to eat in town?

[Baker Mayfield]

I don't think we eat the same things.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, there we go. You know him for talking on the field. What did you say to Nick Bosa when you stiff armed him while throwing the the 4 1? Throwing for a 4th down conversion. Let's throw this clip up there. They feel the vades in trouble. Stiff arm throws.

[Travis Kelsey]

Stop it. That was epic.

[Baker Mayfield]

Best part is I wouldn't even throwing it to Rashad.

[Travis Kelsey]

Ah.

[Baker Mayfield]

I was throwing at the Sterling shepherd.

[Travis Kelsey]

Right, right behind him.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's one of the best plays I've seen all year.

[Baker Mayfield]

That's one of the best plays I've ever seen a quarterback make.

[Jason Kelsey]

Exactly what he was trying to do. You got it.

[Baker Mayfield]

Just how I drew it up, man. On fourth I got to have it just how I drew it up.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just, just. Sometimes you just got to give it a chance.

[Baker Mayfield]

We're in two minute mode so I didn't say anything or else I would have, I would have tried to talk some to Nick.

[Travis Kelsey]

There you go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do you have a go to like like talking phrases like what is your. Are you cursor?

[Travis Kelsey]

Are you, are you a big you guy?

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you, do you, do you attack them as people see me on the.

[Travis Kelsey]

See me on the next play. See me on the next play?

[Baker Mayfield]

No, I, I took this one from Aaron Foster a long time ago. I watched a mic depth clip of him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay.

[Baker Mayfield]

He told somebody to turn around like what's the name on the back of that jersey? I don't know who you are off.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, that one could stink. That one could stay.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hurt. That would hurt.

[Baker Mayfield]

I can't take credit for it but yeah, that's a good one.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm Jason. I'm Jason. Jason.

[Travis Kelsey]

Last season you doubt up a play to get Mike Evans his 11th consecutive thousand yard season.

[Jason Kelsey]

God, this was an awesome moment.

[Travis Kelsey]

If that play didn't work, I mean you got to keep Coming back to him though, right?

[Jason Kelsey]

For sure. Right.

[Baker Mayfield]

Well, here's the thing. We had the game sealed. We should have been taking a knee.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Threw the ball in a must knee situation with the playoffs on the line.

[Travis Kelsey]

That makes it dicey.

[Baker Mayfield]

Say this gets tipped. Pick six. Oh, gosh.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm seeing this now. I'm seeing this now. That's. That's an aggressive move.

[Baker Mayfield]

I wish you like it doesn't do it justice with the fan reaction, the sideline reaction. That video, unbelievable. But how much it meant for Mike, how much Mike means the community, the coaching staff, the organization like that, that says it all. To throw the ball when you're going to the playoffs already, to throw the ball and risk something, to get somebody an achievement, a tie. Jerry Rice, I mean, that guy is an absolute stud.

[Travis Kelsey]

Absolute stud, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mike, I've only had the fortune of playing with him in Pro Bowls, but you can even tell just in those settings. Freaking great teammate, man. That guy has great energy, awesome personality. A guy that you would love playing with. And you could see it in those reactions. Like everybody was so juiced about it. So that's awesome, man. Hell yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yep.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, who's the better dancer, you or Travis?

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on, man. What?

[Baker Mayfield]

I mean, Travis has more practice now with choreographers. Yeah, we're talking natural abilities. I got him.

[Travis Kelsey]

You do.

[Baker Mayfield]

You do now rehearsals and stuff. He might have the upper hand, I don't know.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he's had professional practice.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's what you're talking about.

[Baker Mayfield]

You're talking about practice.

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on now, babe. I'll just go out there and wing it.

[Baker Mayfield]

You want to have a little rhythm.

[Travis Kelsey]

Come on now. The best one is. Is the. The. The on the. Like the one that showed everybody you could dance back at Oklahoma. How often had you guys done that? Like at Oklahoma? Just fucking around with the boys.

[Baker Mayfield]

They knew I could dance a little bit, but then that was like. We went to Disney. We're in the. It's the year I sat out, so we're playing Clemson. I'm doing nothing. I'm just on a free trip to Disney. Not legally at that time, but the kids were doing a little dance circle and both teams were around. And then all of a sudden it escalated pretty quickly. They threw the little white guy in there and you know what?

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey, hey. That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

What's tougher though? Being an NFL quarterback or being the father of a 1 year old father.

[Baker Mayfield]

1 year olds easier than being an NFL quarterback. Now, when she gets to a certain age, that answer is Going to quickly change.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not looking forward to that. I got four girls and they're going to be in high school pretty much at the same time. I might just.

[Baker Mayfield]

Good luck, buddy.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm going to un. Retire. I'm going to un. Retire. 60, 50, 50 something years old. Jason Kelsey's trying to make an NFL comeback.

[Travis Kelsey]

We'll get. You're about 250 now, so you can't go back to Santa Rosa. Gonna get you over here playing some tight end, bud. Come on over to tight end.

[Baker Mayfield]

You tight end.

[Travis Kelsey]

Exactly.

[Jason Kelsey]

Wait till they start turning two and then they don't listen and freaking. It's. Yeah, yeah. It'll be fun. No, it's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

And then they don't listen. You got disobedient kids, Jason.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, they don't have. They're not disobedient.

[Baker Mayfield]

I know. It's not Kylie's fault.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, well, it's definitely not Kylie's fault. All right. You started the Baker and Emily Mayfield foundation where one of the things you do is give out walk ons scholarships, which. Fuck yes.

[Travis Kelsey]

Awesome, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

What makes a Baker Mayfield walk on?

[Baker Mayfield]

You know, we obviously, when we send the thing out for applicants, read through all the letters and seeing the stories of resilience, what people had to go through, whether it was upbringing or in a tragic event they had to go through to get to where they're at and just following their dream. And that's. That's the biggest thing. So our motto is to try and level the playing field. Obviously, college landscape nowadays is different within il. But for some of these walk ons that are true walk ons and sports and everything to just to try and find the person that deserves it the most. And then also when we get the finalists, trying to reach out to people and see if is their story true just to make sure. Verify it.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's probably smart. Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Yeah. And just to just to be sure of that. And so trying to level playing field for people that really deserve it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I think.

[Travis Kelsey]

Awesome, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't. My favorite videos every year in college and we were fortunate to be a part of one with Drew Brees of Cincinnati, where we awarded one of the Bearcats a scholarship. But dude, seeing those videos of a guy that's been busting his tail, especially like an older guy that's kind of put in a few years or I mean anybody's getting a scholarship. The. You could see the whole team erupt because of how much everybody's behind it. It's not unsimilar. To what happens with Mike Evans when you get these kids. And those are my favorite videos every year. So great. Great job to you. Great job to your wife. That's. That's tremendous, man. Good.

[Baker Mayfield]

Appreciate it. Yeah, Love it.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is your welcome to the NFL.

[Baker Mayfield]

Moment, actually, against you boys in the preseason? Yeah. Fletcher Cox threw me like an absolute rag doll. I mean, welcome to the league. I was like, oh, my.

[Jason Kelsey]

In the preseason.

[Travis Kelsey]

In the preseason, Fletcher. Damn, that ain't right.

[Jason Kelsey]

Fletch, for some reason, would do that with young guys.

[Baker Mayfield]

Why was he playing in the preseason? That's my biggest question.

[Jason Kelsey]

You got to ask Jim. I don't know what Schwarz he was doing with that one, but I. You know what, dude? He. So I. I tell people this a lot. I've noticed two people's grip strengths, like, when they've grabbed me in my entire career. One of them was Clay Matthews. For some reason, he grabbed me. He was like, head up in, like, a goal line play, and he grabbed my shoulder. But, like, why the are this guy's hands so strong? Because he wasn't even that big of a guy. And then all of a sudden, Fletcher Cox, he. We draft him. He comes in, and he would grab me with his hands, and it felt like the most emasculated I've ever felt. Like this guy could be whatever he wants with me right now.

[Baker Mayfield]

So you can have your way.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Baker Mayfield]

Clay was just used to putting that thing in a ponytail. He had the grip, put the band up.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's where he worked it on. Oh, my God. Gosh, Dude, I. I got another one.

[Baker Mayfield]

Hold.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hold on real quick. Baker. Baker's frozen. Oh, he's back.

[Jason Kelsey]

Was he frozen?

[Baker Mayfield]

No. You're frozen, Brandon.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're frozen, Brandon.

[Baker Mayfield]

You got West Coast.

[Jason Kelsey]

God damn it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Your ass.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is a Baker Mayfield Taco? What's your. What's your favorite? Go to kind of taco? Because I know you're a taco guy.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, I am.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you Food truck? Are you. Are you kind of like the upscale, like, kind of trendy taco spot? Are you, like, they. They better not even be speaking English in there. What kind of tacos are you getting?

[Baker Mayfield]

I hope they don't speak English right. I want the greasiest of greasy. I want to taste all the flavors they've had on this cast iron they got going back there. The flat top. I want to see all of it. Yeah, you better not have any food allergies to the food trucks. I'm going to cross contamination out the ass. I want all of it.

[Jason Kelsey]

You, you. Corn tortilla, flour tortilla. It doesn't matter. Will you eat all of it?

[Baker Mayfield]

Well, my body's a temple, so I'm corn tortillas right now, but flour's preference.

[Travis Kelsey]

The older we get.

[Baker Mayfield]

Oh, my gosh. I used to be able to eat anything.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's 92 percenters. Baker Mayfield, appreciate you. Appreciate you coming on, man, and giving us some time. The stories, brother. And can't wait to see you guys out of Tahoe, man. It's gonna be a blast. Over, under, over, under 30 beers a day, dude.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's gonna be over 30 at the Lucky Beaver alone. What are you talking about?

[Travis Kelsey]

There we go. All right, brother. We'll let you get out of here.

[Baker Mayfield]

Appreciate it, guys.

[Jason Kelsey]

And that does it for our interview with Baker Mayfield. You shake it, Bay. Can't wait to see what he does this year in Tampa. Bay. It's been awesome seeing his career get rejuvenated down there in Florida.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, and everybody's healthy down there in Tampa, man. Everybody's healthy start of the year.

[Jason Kelsey]

They had a very good team before guys started going down last year. They can stay healthy. They can cause a lot of of problems in the nfc. That also wraps up this season of New Heights. How about that?

[Travis Kelsey]

Year three, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's insane to think we've done this for three years now.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Quick shout out to Adam Sandler and Baker Mayfield for joining us on this episode. New Heights will be back to kick off the NFL season Aug. 27. In the meantime, we will be releasing Best of weekly, so check those out. Also, make sure sure you're subscribed on YouTube, the new heights channel. Follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights early and and free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts.

[Travis Kelsey]

Once again, New Heights, a wonder show produced by Way Sports & Entertainment and brought to you by the General Mills's Favorite Cereal brands. That's right. Follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for fun clips throughout the the week and all those best of clips that Jason was just mentioning thanks to our production and crew. Could not do this without you guys. We love you guys. Year three in the books. Shout out to you guys for helping this show get to where it is today. We love you guys. All the guests that hopped on with us this season. Thank you so much. Thank you for the time, the stories and thanks again to all you 92 percenters we love you guys for tuning in and can't wait to jump off another stage. Season of new heights.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, baby.

[Travis Kelsey]

See you guys next year or in like a couple weeks.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's not going to be that long. Don't forget about us. Please, please, please. What's the next thing we can spend on a corporate card as the NFL PA to be more ridiculous?

[Travis Kelsey]

That's one of my favorite segments. Now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Can we use any of that?

[Travis Kelsey]

We need a woman's voice. What? Can we. Can we use any of that?

[E]

Dude, this is like the one recording Carly's not on and we fucking immediately go that direction.

[Travis Kelsey]

Honestly, she would be worse about it. She's a degenerate. She would be way worse about it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Carly would be pro. This conversation from.

[E]

Carly's not the voice of reason you think she is.

[Jason Kelsey]

From what I understand about Carly.

[Travis Kelsey]

No, she would not be helpful in the situation. Situation. Okay, Maggie said it's not that bad for one's pov. Okay, Maggie said not that bad. We'll take it. Please send. I think we'll take it. If you do think it's bad, please send tweets to Jay Chatsky on Twitter, not me. I don't want to hear about this one.

[Jason Kelsey]

What does McKenna say?

[Travis Kelsey]

McKenna, what's the ruling? There we go.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, all right. I think that's a thumbs up.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go. Is Bambi even a good name for a stripper? I don't even know if that's good or not, dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was.

[Jason Kelsey]

Was.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was perfect. Also, it's a good fake stripper name. It's like, right what people like. It's imaginary. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it plays as that. You think that's what their names are? Yeah, it plays innocent enough if you named, like a real one. I went, oh, damn it, Jason. That was gold, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Move your tits. I'm trying to show graph.

[Travis Kelsey]

What if they have their laptops out? Follow New heights on the Wonder app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to New Heights early and ad free. Plus enjoy exclusive episodes of the show by joining Wonder plus in the Wonder app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify today.

[Jason Kelsey]

Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short [e-mail] survey. Yo, it's your man, Nick Cannon. And we are back with a brand new season of we playing spades. And to the left of me is the best of me. The one and only, my bestie, Courtney B. And you know what the B stands for?

[Travis Kelsey]

Beat your ass.

[Jason Kelsey]

And that's exactly what we doing right here this season? Because we playing spades is back and better than ever. That's right. So make sure you hit the subscribe button on YouTube. They gave us our own YouTube channel.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's we playing spades. Bo bo, bo, bo, bo.