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Jason Kelsey
First listen through. What was your favorite?
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Brandon
Opalite.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, Opalite.
Brandon
It just. It like makes my body, like, do this.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Brandon
Like, I kind of like bob to it. Like, this is just kind of the.
Jason Kelsey
Vibe of that song.
Brandon
It's fun.
Jason Kelsey
It's tremendous.
Brandon
It's tremendous.
Jason Kelsey
What? After listening to the album a few more times, is there a song that maybe the first time you listen to it.
Brandon
That's a great question.
Jason Kelsey
And then now you're like, yeah.
Brandon
I feel like wish list has grown.
Jason Kelsey
That's the one for me. That's the one for me. And really, I. I credit that with Kylie. She. That was her favorite, like right from the get go, pretty much.
Brandon
And she's smarter than all of us.
Jason Kelsey
Well, there's no question. I don't want to get it. I know. We're about to get into it.
Brandon
We're gonna not talk about football.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Nobody wants to hear about Eagles, the Chiefs losing. Nobody wants to hear about this.
Brandon
Nobody's here for that.
Jason Kelsey
Let's talk Taylor.
Travis Kelsey
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls to new heights. A wonry show produced by new heights.
Jason Kelsey
How about it, huh?
Travis Kelsey
Brought to you by peloton. We are your host. I'm Travis Kel is my big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to those CITs and the heady bear cats, baby.
Jason Kelsey
Yes, sir.
Travis Kelsey
Ranked Iowa State Cyclones. Cyclones. Yeah. No. That was a hell of a game by the boys over there in Nippert stadium, man. Way to defend the Crib. Subscribe on YouTube onesie plus wherever you get your podcast to follow the show on all social media at do hide show with 1s for funklifts throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up today.
Jason Kelsey
92 percenters got another amazing episode we're gonna recap right now. Chiefs and jags going down to the wire on Monday night. The rest of the week five in the NFL. We're also going to talk about what everybody has been waiting for. Our official reviews of the life of a showgirl.
Travis Kelsey
Nice.
Jason Kelsey
Well, I don't know why people give a what we think about it, but.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, I don't know why they would think.
Jason Kelsey
It's not like we're musical experts. We're a bunch of idiots. So let's get into it right now with some new news.
Travis Kelsey
I love it. First time with new news, though. We have incredible guest episode.
Jason Kelsey
That's right.
Travis Kelsey
Coming to you next Monday. We sat down with Dwayne the Rock Johnson. That's right. Talk to him about his new movie, the smashing machine, WWE's Attitude Era, his football career at the U, and how he became one of the most famous.
Jason Kelsey
People on the planet. That's right.
Travis Kelsey
Again, the episode will be dropping Monday, October 13th. Stay tuned at the end of this episode for a sneak peek of that conversation.
Jason Kelsey
And like we said last week, we've been rolling out our previously recorded Wondery plus bonus episodes to our main feeds. That's right. If you didn't pay for it, you're in luck. It's about to get to you right now. You might see some of our old film clubs, heights hotlines about relationships and the episode where we called Ed Kelsey for parenting advice, which I assure you, you're going to want to hear that and adhere to none of it. So if you're wondering why our haircuts or outfits look different, it's because those are previously recorded for Wondery plus subscribers only. Now we are pushing all this content to be available. We're. We're men of the people. We're men of the people who Wondery and us have colluded together to bring you some of the exclusives. I don't really know how this works. All I know is that it's going to be dropping. It's going to look like I have gray in my beard even more so than I do now. Don't be thrown off. All right? And maybe the most demanded piece of new news all time. I mean, there are so many people tweeting, asking my opinion and let's just.
Travis Kelsey
Give it up for Taylor. Let's just give it up for Taylor real quick.
Jason Kelsey
That's the appropriate.
Travis Kelsey
She's done it. She's done it again, no question. Just put the world on tilt. It's, it's been so fun to see everybody's reactions, and we've had an absolute blast watching her go through all of her press tour or radios and, and all these talk shows, and she still has a few more coming out this week that'll, that'll air after this, this recording right here. But she's looked amazing, sounded amazing, and this album is absolutely amazing. And if you haven't heard it yet, please go check out the Life of the Showgirl.
Jason Kelsey
No doubt, no doubt. It was, it was incredible. It was fun listening to an album start to finish in, really diving in.
Travis Kelsey
I haven't done it in a while. Huh.
Jason Kelsey
I don't know the last time I've like, anticipated anybody releasing an album and like, I looked at all the lyrics and like, and I will listen to every song. I just, I'm. I'm more old school music. There aren't a lot of current artists that I'm like, waiting for the album to come out. I'm going to be honest with you.
Travis Kelsey
I just, I got a, I got a handful. I got a handful of artists that I really, really look forward to.
Jason Kelsey
Okay.
Travis Kelsey
But I will say I had already heard every.
Jason Kelsey
You already knew.
Travis Kelsey
But I've been. I'm. I still.
Jason Kelsey
How many of them did you already heard? Have heard? All 12 before it came out.
Travis Kelsey
All 12.
Jason Kelsey
And I presume that you were listening to them while Taylor was in the room with you. Yeah. Does that feel weird when, like an artist is in the same room with you and you're listening to the lyrics?
Travis Kelsey
It's a different feel for sure, but I got used to it real quick.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Okay. What was the first song you.
Travis Kelsey
I, I just listened to it wholeheartedly and.
Jason Kelsey
Sure.
Travis Kelsey
Because it's her creation. Well, you just want to appreciate it for what it is, you know? Right. And, and I think that's the biggest thing is to make sure that the person that you're in the room with knows that, you know, you're, you're being open to what they're. They're creating, you know?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
But, yeah, it was, it was fun to hear all of these come together, knowing that a few of them, as she's mentioned, have been about our life together. And it's just been fun to see everybody kind of depict them and, and all the videos online and people dancing and, and smiling and having a blast with this, so.
Jason Kelsey
No doubt. Have you. So would you listen to any of the songs before they were like, fully put together? You know what I mean? Like, is there any of them where you're like, you hear like a more stripped down version before the final product.
Travis Kelsey
Is like, oh, yeah, yeah. 100.
Jason Kelsey
Okay. That's gotta be cool. I've, I, that's one of the things.
Travis Kelsey
When we really appreciate the whole, like.
Jason Kelsey
That's kind of what I was talking.
Travis Kelsey
Martin and production, like, all that stirring of the sounds and, like, hearing, like, the first version versus, like, the final version, like, I'm listening to the. To these songs still in my car. To work and back and forth from home every single day. Like, man, they. They crushed it, you know, because it didn't sound as, like. I don't know if profound's the word, but, like. Yeah, a lot of the. A lot of the sounds didn't. Didn't come through as much from the first times I heard them, but either way, I mean, they. Yeah, 10 out of 10, they. They all killed it.
Jason Kelsey
No, there's a reason those guys are highly regarded in the industry, for sure. All right, well, where do we start with this thing? I don't know how to do an album review. I've never done one I don't think I'm qualified to do one I don't.
Travis Kelsey
Think we should do.
Jason Kelsey
Okay, that's fair.
Travis Kelsey
All right, I'll ask you this, Jason. What's the. The question that everyone wants to know is, what's Jason's favorite songs on the album?
Jason Kelsey
Favorite songs? Well, as I texted you the day it came out, I would say the top two songs that I liked right away were Opalite and Eldest Daughter. Yeah, and Opalite. I mean, it's just like. I'm a sucker for any, like, type of, like, trying to think, like, the right way to describe it, but like this, like, you're down in the dump, everything is kind of, you know, not going right. You're uneasy in the world. Onyx skies turn into Opalite we're back in it, baby. And, like, I'm all about it. The vibe of the chorus is very Christmassy to me, which makes it feel even more joyous. Yeah, I just, like, love the. The chorus is just such a. A catchy, like, freaking groove.
Travis Kelsey
It's just a fun bop, man.
Jason Kelsey
Love that song. Love that song so much. Eldest Daughter, I'm a sucker for a ballad, and I just think the expression in that song and the sentiment behind it is beautiful.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Taylor, obviously, being an amazing, amazing writer, knocked out of the park with that one. I really love that song. Then my other top three on the first time listening through were probably Fade of Ophelia. Life of a showgirl and actually romantic. I like actually the romantic a lot. It's kind of almost like a.
Travis Kelsey
That's. That's become, like, my, like. I wouldn't say new favorite, but, like, yeah, that's the one I catch myself going to whenever I look at the.
Jason Kelsey
Look at the list, I really did.
Travis Kelsey
It'S got that, like, that alternative rock.
Jason Kelsey
Like, it feels 90s a little bit like if. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Travis Kelsey
I love that shit.
Jason Kelsey
And then to me, when I was listening to it the first time, and I don't know if this was the.
Travis Kelsey
Intention by Taylor, she makes talking sound so sweet.
Jason Kelsey
I thought that was a lot of fun. Wish List now is probably one. I put that up there with my top tracks on the album. And Kylie listened to that first and she was the one who kind of like told me to go back and listen to that one. And I listened to it while reading the lyrics because sometimes I need to do that. But I think the sentiment behind that song is fantastic. And I think, yeah, it's. It's very well done. It's. It's clever. Talks about, like, what life really is about and like what relationships are really about. And I think it's just very well done. But I like all the songs. I like. I like Honey. As you know, Kylie hates being called pet names. That songs fantastic to me because it flips, like, because pet names can be very condescending. Right. By nature, like, people can for sure take it that way.
Travis Kelsey
But when it's said by somebody the word buddy, like, some guys just hate me.
Jason Kelsey
Don't call me buddy. I'm not. I'm not your buddy guy. I'm not your guy pal. But the. No, Honey's fantastic. And I think she hits the nail on the head of, like, why in a relationship, it feels different when somebody calls you honey, when somebody that loves you. And I think it's. It's. That's well done. Wood. Great. Great soundtrack. How do you feel about wood? Let's ask this. How do you feel about wood?
Travis Kelsey
It's a great song.
Jason Kelsey
It's a great song. Do you feel like. Not. Do you feel. Trying to think of the word. Do you feel not confident? Do you feel cocky? Do you feel cocky about the songwood?
Travis Kelsey
No. Any song that, you know, she references me.
Jason Kelsey
It's not just any song.
Travis Kelsey
It's very, like, this is a very specific you. I love that girl. So what do you mean? Any song that she would reference me in any.
Jason Kelsey
Well, it's not just you, though. It's an appendage. It's not just you as a. It's a very specific thing.
Travis Kelsey
I think you're not understanding the song.
Jason Kelsey
Jesus Christ, Travis. Come on.
Travis Kelsey
No way.
Jason Kelsey
Redwood tree ain't hard to see. I thought redwood was a little bit. You know, that was. That's a generous word. I think I think if somebody wrote a song about me, it'd be like Japanese maple sometimes can see.
Travis Kelsey
Japanese make.
Jason Kelsey
That's hilarious. That song's great, though. The freaking. The beat to that song is fantastic. And that's right up my alley. So well done. I think it's a great song. What other ones really caught. Canceled. Canceled was one that initially, when I listened to it, I don't like a lot of, like, ominous sounds, typically.
Travis Kelsey
Mm.
Jason Kelsey
And that's kind of got like that kind of. That kind of tone to it. Right. It's like a. Almost like a reputation freaking. You know, we're in like the serpent era type deal going on.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
But I think it's awesome, like, pushing back on the concept of like, cancel culture.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
The way the Internet, like, hyper, like, analyzes people that they don't even know and all this other. And like, how you really find out who your true are. Cancel feels to me very similar to a football team in a lot of regards where, like, when. When you're winning, everybody's everybody's friend. It's the best thing in the world. But you really find out a lot and you find out more about teammates and people when the losing starts, when isn't going well, and then people's true intentions and nature really comes out. And I feel like there's a lot of carryover into that song and to what she's talking about specifically. So I really love that song as well. But, yeah, I still think my top two are Opalite and Eldest Daughter. I think Opalite might be one of the most. I mean, it's up there with my favorite to listen to songs certainly that I've ever heard recently. So it's. It's a fun one right now in the car, you just can't help but, like, jam out to it. Very good tune. Very good tune. What do Kylie and the girls like? Is a question. I said, Kylie, big fan of Wishlist. She was the one who really turned, like. She was like, no, you need to listen to that one again. That one's fucking really awesome. Completely agree. And that's Kylie's mentality too. She's not a materialistic person. She's never been all she cares. Like, whenever I ask her what she wants for Christmas or her birthday or whatever, she gives me fucking nothing. She's like, oh, no, I don't want anything. I just want to spend time with you. It's like, I know you want something and I don't know what to get you. So just help me out. Help me Out.
Travis Kelsey
Just gotta start throwing. You just gotta. You gotta plan ahead. Jason. Just gotta start throwing stuff out there.
Jason Kelsey
I know. So I have done it a couple times. Oh, my gosh.
Travis Kelsey
Look at this massager.
Jason Kelsey
I know. I don't listen. I've gotten better where I like buy things the moment.
Travis Kelsey
Like, I don't need a foot massager. That's not her vibes.
Jason Kelsey
There's definitely a lot for Jason to comment on and I'm here for it. Can't wait for the teasing to begin.
Travis Kelsey
Teasing.
Jason Kelsey
Kind of already got that out of the way. What I tease about his maple.
Travis Kelsey
His maple tree.
Jason Kelsey
The Japanese maple baby. I have more of an ornamental tree. My is more of an ornamental bush. Look at that beautiful tree. Look at that tree. Look at that. I got one right outside.
Travis Kelsey
There we go. Ah, that's too funny.
Jason Kelsey
They're highly sought after.
Travis Kelsey
92 percenters wanted to know our reactions on new Heights. Getting a shout out. Yeah. New heights. The man.
Jason Kelsey
That was pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
Travis Kelsey
Little shout out.
Jason Kelsey
Wood, right? Yep.
Travis Kelsey
Yep.
Jason Kelsey
I would have paid good money to watch Jason listen to the album for the first time. Specifically for wood. I don't know why everybody wants to see me responding to that song so much. That is like.
Travis Kelsey
Because they know you're in on. On.
Jason Kelsey
I'm a big. I'm a big. You know, I mean, I'm in on the wood. I am. I'm in on the wood. As a pun.
Travis Kelsey
As a banker.
Jason Kelsey
I think inserting wooden innuendos is always childish enough for me that I can get on board with that.
Travis Kelsey
She couldn't.
Brandon
She couldn't work intern into a lyric. Is that a. I don't ask for a lot. Yeah, maybe. I thought maybe rhymes a few things. But that's okay.
Jason Kelsey
I'm sure it's probably close.
Brandon
It's on the next. Taylor's on the next.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, I'll throw that in there. Just let her know.
Jason Kelsey
What would. What would a song with intern Brandon in it consist of, like, in what?
Brandon
I don't know.
Jason Kelsey
Trying to think of Canceled. I feel like it may be canceled. This is.
Brandon
This is Taylor's new song. Why the does it take so long to record a podcast?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, exactly.
Travis Kelsey
Who knows who it's about?
Brandon
Could be about anybody.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, it's a song about wanting to hang out with your. Your fiance. But yeah, he's too busy podcasting because this intern Brandon won't keep the thing on track.
Travis Kelsey
Oh, I love Taylor's new song.
Brandon
Can you wrap it up?
Jason Kelsey
But overall, really enjoyed the album. Love the album. Because I. I mean, she just does such an incredible job of talking about her life in ways and with lyrics that I think are relatable and people connect with. And I sure as hell did. I mean, even eldest daughter, I know it's about being an, you know, the oldest sibling of the female gender, but even as like an older sibling of. As a brother. And like the way she attacks that song, speaking about probably that and multiple other things. Yeah, I just think it's very related and I think.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
I mean, I'm an eldest.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, you are. You can relate because you have. Wyatt is your oldest.
Jason Kelsey
Well, that too. I'm more thinking of like, you're the oldest sibling, so, like, you're kind of entering everything for the first time. I really enjoyed it. Hell yeah, brother.
Travis Kelsey
Well, you're not the only one. It was the. It was the most streamed album after the first day. Fate of Ophelia was the number one stream song and the most streams single. I believe that after the first day of all time, maybe.
Jason Kelsey
I mean, it's true. I don't even need to look it up.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, well, we weren't the only ones that enjoyed it. Mama Kels and Don on Joan, they all went to the official release party of Life of a Showgirl at the AMC theaters. The theaters dropped, I believe, a little over an hour special on all the songs and Taylor's first music video from the album, which is, uh, the Fate of Ophelia. And yeah, absolute banger. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. I believe it's out on YouTube now. But over the weekend they had a. They had a bunch of release parties at the AMC theaters. And Mom, Uncle Don and. And on Joan all went, that's awesome. And then stop by the hotel to tell me happy birthday afterwards.
Jason Kelsey
I was about to say it was great seeing them down in Jacksonville. Have you talked to dad about the album? No, I haven't talked to him about the album either.
Travis Kelsey
No.
Jason Kelsey
Maybe that's who we should get a live listen to. Have. Have Papa Kelsey listen to Wood live and hear what his reaction is. Oh, my God. I would love. I'm going to do it regardless. Even if we don't put it on camera, I'm just going to do it. Big Ed fans are also going back through our episode with Taylor and finding all the Easter eggs. Jason, did you know you were an Easter egg? I did not know as an Easter egg. I was informed of no Easter egging as I was doing the episode. I guess one of the things I teed Up. I said that was a lie as the intro of our episode. And it was also obviously a big part of the song Eldest Daughter. So, yeah, I was set you up, man. Yep, yep.
Travis Kelsey
We set you up perfectly.
Jason Kelsey
What else was. I said, okay, so there's other Easter eggs. What are the other Easter eggs?
Travis Kelsey
I think the fun of the Easter eggs is to always keep it just a little. Like, was that intentional? You know what I mean? I think that's.
Jason Kelsey
There was one that was definitely intentional. That's somebody. Somebody tagged me on Twitter where. When Taylor was like, you don't always keep it 100 Jason. And I was like, I mean, I try. I don't. I'm trying to. And clearly now, yeah, I'm the last.
Travis Kelsey
Day in the sky.
Jason Kelsey
I had egg all over my face.
Travis Kelsey
Id straight somebody. We egged you. That's funny as hell.
Jason Kelsey
Do you have any final thoughts? I mean, mine, like, you're a main creative. Don't put the no news to this whole thing happening.
Travis Kelsey
Travis, just the lucky man that gets to be, you know, the support system for Taylor while she drops one of the coolest albums that I've ever listened to. So that the world scene. Oh, no, I'm excited for. I'm happy for. Everything seems to have gone perfectly. All this planning, and you see it from start to finish. Like, she started this thing in the middle of her tour or her tour in Europe, and it's like, yeah. To see it all unfold and come together and her connect the dots, from the planning to how the strategic planning to how the album was all gonna look, and then to, you know, listen to the music and everything come together. And her finally getting that 12th song and being like, I think it's done, you know, and then from that point on, it's like her and her label are just working their ass off to make this one of the biggest releases of all time. And I'm just happy as hell for it because it's. She's happy with it. You know, she's. She's proud of this. And obviously, I'm proud of her for. For going through the. The hoops to, you know, live out her dreams.
Jason Kelsey
Well, congratulations, Tay. Well done. Life of a showgirl. For those of you living under a rock who haven't streamed it yet, get on, you idiot. All right, that wraps up new news. Peloton is changing the game in fitness with the new Peloton Cross training Tread plus, powered by Peloton iq. And let me tell you, this thing is like having your own elite training camp at Home.
Travis Kelsey
Oh, okay. Jason, how have you liked working out with your Peloton?
Jason Kelsey
It's right there. It's always where I need it. Sitting in a corner, sitting back there. I got the bike. Do it on the tread. I'm a big tread guy. I like the tread. And then you can watch shows, you can watch instructors. It's just a great product.
Travis Kelsey
And something else that's really cool. This screen swivels now so you can easily go from running to strength training or stretching. There's so many classes that Peloton has you can click on and moving the screen around just makes it so you don't have to move that heavy old bike or tread. Like having a whole training facility right there. One place, one equipment.
Jason Kelsey
It is nice. And having the trainer access is good. Oh, and Peloton IQ actually counts your reps and corrects your form with intelligent strength coaching, which we definitely need when working out at home. And get this, it tracks your progress and can even suggest weights to help you level up your strength game. The rep counter is nice.
Travis Kelsey
I also heard the Peloton IQ creates personalized workout plans based on your goals. In each class, you're coached by instructors who bring that energy you need. And that's what Peloton is all about. Matching your energy and elevating your game to help you get to the next level. Whether you're just starting out or you're, I don't know, like a vet, like Jason is.
Jason Kelsey
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Travis Kelsey
Tell me about it. Don't even get me started, brother. I've. I've got so many unread text messages just for my birthday alone. But the group chats could get. Once they get going, it's hard to.
Jason Kelsey
Catch up for sure.
Travis Kelsey
You get it?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, I feel like it's impossible to keep up with text these days. Make plans, do all that stuff. It's, it's very difficult.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, well, I've got some news that's gonna change the game. You know WhatsApp, they've got this sick events feature, a group chats. It's, it's a game changer for planning if you're a planning kind of guy.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, well, you know, I am not a planning kind of guy, but I am a game changing kind ofGuy. With WhatsApp events, you can send detailed event invites right in the Group chat. That's right. It's got the date, time, venue, everything all in one spot. Everyone can RSVP directly and stay in the know. Details change so no one misses out. I mean, this is a great thing for me because I will not look up any of this information. To have it all laid out for me would be very efficient. Very efficient.
Travis Kelsey
And then you can tell them, no, I'm not going, oh, this is very nice. Or no, I'm going, thanks for making this easy on me.
Jason Kelsey
Out of the house. Let's go.
Travis Kelsey
That's clutch. No more scrolling through a million messages to find out when and where the meeting is or where we're going.
Jason Kelsey
Exactly. And get this. It doesn't matter what kind of phone everyone's using. Everyone in the group chat gets the invite. That's right. It doesn't matter. They can lose their phone. As long as they have the app, they can get the invite. Do I sense a Kelsey family reunion in the works?
Travis Kelsey
Reunion?
Jason Kelsey
We really don't have a big family.
Travis Kelsey
No, it's just.
Jason Kelsey
It might be nice to meet some of the Kelsey relatives that we don't know.
Travis Kelsey
I see it in our future for sure. It's time for WhatsApp. Download WhatsApp now.
Jason Kelsey
Once we get some kids that all look the same on the block.
Travis Kelsey
There you go.
Jason Kelsey
Family reunion going.
Travis Kelsey
There we go. I'll add it to my wish list.
Jason Kelsey
Thank you to our partner, Gillette.
Travis Kelsey
Well, Jason, I gotta say, man, you were looking fresh on Monday night for the cameras.
Jason Kelsey
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Travis Kelsey
Salmon. What was that? The Nice.
Jason Kelsey
It was pinkish anyways. Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing about you, especially in that Jeff camp. Was that all corduroy? The whole thing?
Travis Kelsey
No, no, no. Suede, suede jacket, corduroy hat.
Jason Kelsey
Got it. Okay, well, you know how to bring your best for the primetime events. Really? Any events. Well done, Trevor.
Travis Kelsey
Thank you, dude. Absolutely. Look good, feel good. That's how I roll. Prime time taught me that. And Gillette has just the thing to help NFL fans with looking good and feeling good.
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Jason Kelsey
To the no fun portion of this week's episode.
Travis Kelsey
No Fun, no Fun Zone.
Jason Kelsey
Bold topics to wrap up Week 5 in the NFL brought to you by Gillette. That's right. And we're going to start it off with Chiefs 28, Jags 31 on Monday night Football. Yeah, you want to get into your initial thoughts from the game. I mean it was kind of a wild freaking ride.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, we can't, I mean we go up 14 points, man, we can't, we can't let that get back into it. It just is what it is. 14 point lead. On top of that, 14 fucking penalties.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, it was a sloppy game. It was really sloppy by both sides, but uncharacteristically sloppy by the Chiefs who are usually one of the most buttoned up operations. I'll say this, I was impressed by the way the Jaguars played. I know they're a good team. I thought that they weathered a lot of stuff early. You got to give them credit. You got to give Trevor Lawrence credit from fumbling that first quarterback sneak to give you guys the opportunity to go up 14 points and then bouncing right back and putting together a drive where he scrambled and fought every step of the way. I think the Jaguars are a really good team this year. I really do. I think their defense played well for the most part. Your guys offense is back on track. It was a fun game to watch and I know it didn't turn out good for you guys. I know Spags is going to get the defense straight offensively. I feel like you guys are still, you know, it feels like the offense is clicking right now and rolling outside of the one interception in the red zone. It felt like you guys are moving the ball pretty consistently against really good defense in the NFL this year. Those are my initial takeaways from the game. I don't, without diving into anything too specific.
Travis Kelsey
I mean there's a stat out there. I guess we outgain the, the Jags by 157 yards and it's like it's frustrating to see that turnover battle, you know, and time of possession and it's just, it's so frustrating to lose a game after that.
Jason Kelsey
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like I, I really do think I, I, I like Listen you guys, you guys played very well, in a lot of regards. And you made too many mistakes that kept them in the game. And I really do think Trevor fought and there was a couple things that bounce away, like the fact that he fell over on his knees and gets up to get the go ahead touchdown was fucking wild. But I really, you know, listen, I think Trevor, that whole team was fighting every step of the way. They're rolling right now under Liam Cohen. This is a different Jaguars roster and feel than they've had. The way those guys have played before. ETN has really been a hell of a player for him this year.
Travis Kelsey
He's a dog, man. And the more they get that dude, Travis Hunter involved, man, they just, I mean, fuck, just send them deep and throw it up.
Jason Kelsey
Why are we over complicating this?
Travis Kelsey
Hats off to the Jags. They finished the game. They finished the game. We didn't, man. And. And they played a cleaner game towards the end of the game than we did. And their special teams, their offense and defense outperformed us, man. And we're moving on. We got the lines coming in. I don't even.
Jason Kelsey
They're rolling right now.
Travis Kelsey
Need to really talk anymore about the Jags loss. Everybody saw firsthand all the debauchery that happened that game and we just got to be, you know, we got to be better, man.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. Got to refocus and got a tough opponent coming in this week. Lions are freaking. They're rolling right now. They had a tough first week, but ever since then they have been clicking on all cylinders offensively. So it'll be a tough task again, as it always is when you go to a Super bowl as many times you do and you get the schedule that you. That you get. But yeah, Lions are rolling right now. This will be a fun one to watch. I got to give Tyquan Thornton, though, some love, man. I really do. I mean, this guy continues to show up. Pat continues to give him opportunities. You can tell that they are feeling more and more comfortable. He's getting pressured in his face and he just decides to throw up a prayer to Tyquan. Covered one on one and ends up coming down with it. Was a big player for the offense. I really like the way he's playing right now, you know, I know you guys get Rasheed back after this next one. It feels like offensively this thing is back to the brand of Chiefs football that we like to see and that bodes well for the future because obviously defensively they're going to get that thing back on track. The Spags and You know, Chris Jones and all those guys. So anyways, Trav, you did set a record. You're now the franchise's all time leader in all purpose yards. Obviously, I know that's hard to celebrate after the way the game went, but that's a pretty incredible milestone. You should be proud of that. Topping Dante Hall, 12,356, running back Jamal Charles and tight end Tony Gonzalez all rank third and fourth or they ranked third and fourth on the list. And you got in the end zone. There we go, baby. Little big yeti touchdown. A lot of people talking about the contact or whatever, they don't know the rule within a yard, yada, yada, yada. Listen, when you come up and press, you know you're freaking making yourself at risk of that happening. So to me, it was within the parameters of certainly being questionable. It's definitely not an egregious penalty.
Travis Kelsey
No.
Jason Kelsey
So I don't know what the the big deal is, but of course. Well, the big deal is that you're the Chiefs and everybody likes to hate, so canceled. Hey, yo, nice.
Travis Kelsey
Just want to give a big shout out to my guy, Kareem Hunt. Man, I love that guy. Pops getting that thing going. People may not think that the run game's what it is or it's not as consistent as it needs to be, man, but those guys are showing up when we need them. Especially the past two weeks, man, it's getting better.
Jason Kelsey
That's what my thing was.
Travis Kelsey
We're getting big pops, big runs when you need them. Big gainers. And that alone. Those big gainers alone will. Will make teams respect it. And I'm not. I'm not against getting those guys the ball even more. Yeah, letting the big guys up front eat a little bit more, man.
Jason Kelsey
It feels like, you know, Kingsley and Josh obviously being two new guys right in to each other. For the first couple weeks, it felt like the line was still finding their way through all that stuff. Now it feels like they're clicking and rolling in protection and in the run game and some of that probably has been freed up with the addition of Worthy and what he offers. Pat has been scrambling all over the place. So it keeps the backside honest on some of this stuff. All that can definitely help open up the run game even more. So last couple of weeks it's been coming, so hopefully we can continue to do that this week against the Lions. Looking forward to watching this one. Man, I always love watching Dan Campbell, man, is. He is just such a freaking awesome coach and person and it's. It's a fun team to watch play. So Chiefs Lions is going to be an exciting matchup.
Travis Kelsey
Moving on to the rest of week five. Get out of this this Chiefs Jags nonsense. Let's get on to some other football in the the world of the NFL. Some other big stories from around the league, starting with Eagles 17, Broncos 21.
Jason Kelsey
Another fun game to talk about.
Travis Kelsey
Broncos scored 18 unanswered in the fourth and it was a crazy game in the fourth.
Jason Kelsey
It was.
Travis Kelsey
I'll say that. There were a few penalties, there were a few, you know, questions, missed opportunities.
Jason Kelsey
There's some calls and things that like the Eagles had a big play down the field to Devonte Smith gets called back because two guys are in motion at once. Ms. On the A.J. brown connection. You know, they had a chance to hit Dotson down the field and they're not on the same page. Obviously everybody's talking about the end of the gameplay with Dallas Goddard towards the end zone, which I get. Like, is it passing fears? In my opinion, yes. With the game on the line, that's a hard call to see and make in real time. I usually side on officials. Yeah, that's right.
Travis Kelsey
Hey, they sure threw it against us.
Jason Kelsey
Now I'm usually more in favor of officials staying out of the way and end of game situations like that, but obviously because it happened to the Eagles, wish they would have called it, but can't be that guy, which I kind of am. Anyways, you got to give the Broncos credit. Like listen, they The Eagles up 17 3. There's no way they should have let the Broncos back in. The Broncos kept fighting. They bowed up defensively. Sean Payton's a hell of a coach.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
And they came back and won the game. And you know, I think it's. They're a great team this year. That's the one thing that I think is kind of being lost sight of in this. Their defense is very good. Vance Joseph is a great coordinator. They have great players on offense. Their offensive line is one of the best in the league. In my opinion. This is a very good football team this year. So like should the Eagles have won the game? Especially with the way it started in the first half? Absolutely.
Travis Kelsey
You're going into 4Q17 3. Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
You should win. Shouldn't happen. It was crazy. How many double digit leads were lost this past week of football between you guys? Between us. Carolina crawled back. Being down big. Who else? There's another double digit lead that was blown. Oh my gosh.
Travis Kelsey
Was it Tennessee?
Jason Kelsey
Tennessee. Yeah, that's exactly that's exactly who it was. So it's just like, dude, it was a wild week of football and like first and second half woes and successes for teams. But anyways, second week in a row, the Birds have struggled in the second half. Yeah, obviously we struggled. Almost lost the game to Tampa Bay late and this time we ended up losing to the Broncos and the Eagles right now. Got to get that fixed. Especially I mean the first half offense of what they're coming out prepared for in the game is working for them, which is great to see. And it felt like they, the Tampa Bay game, they came out and really tried to run the ball and do the clock management ground and pound, let the clock start ticking down as you had the lead and Tampa Bay almost crawled back and went one. And then this past week, through all of the banter about the passing game and AJ Brown combined with the way the run game went last week in the second half, I mean they only ran the ball like twice in the second half. So they went the opposite way where they just tried to throw it every single time. And I just, it's hard. You know, the coaches are obviously trying to adjust and you see that and I appreciate them trying to figure this out and make it better for everybody and win football games, but I just, you know, don't overcomplicate it in general. Keep being balanced, right? Like keep trying to keep the defense off guard. I know it's easier said than done. And in the coach's defense, a lot of those passing plays were there. Like I really think that they made some adjustments in the passing game. Everybody's really criticized Kevin Patullo for not being creative with AJ's routes and all this stuff. It felt like they made a concerted effort to do some different things and AJ was open on a few of those. Devonte had a big day. They had chances down the field to make big plays and they just didn't execute on them. They had AJ on like a 15 yard out coming out of a break and it was just like a tick tock. And that's what it is in the passing game, like sometimes like the timing and everything. Like I anticipate that. To me it was better in that game. Even though the result isn't was worse. It felt like they grew a little bit in that regard. Now we got to get the run game figured out. We have not run the ball well all year and when you're up points, you should be able to run the football, especially when you have Jalen hurts in the backfield.
Travis Kelsey
I was going to say, what do you think the biggest thing because last year was a 2000 yard rusher. Do you think everyone's just keyed in on. On stopping the run right now?
Jason Kelsey
No, I mean, listen, people were keyed in on stopping the run last year. Now I think that, as you know, when you go to a Super bowl, all off season, people have been like, these are. This is what the Eagles do. Well, how can we stop these plays? How can we stop Saquon Barkley? So you're seeing teams now have a full off season of scheming formations and plays that the Eagles had success with with Saquon Barkley last year. So you're going to get different schematic things and very curated things that people have been developing all off season in order to stop the best running back in the league last year. That's part of it. Another part of it is the offensive line has been banged up. Landon Dickerson, I mean, he was obviously. I mean, dude's a fucking warrior. He's been playing and getting out there. First couple of weeks, he's still obviously recovering from something from the knee injury. I thought last week he looked great and then all of a sudden he goes down with an ankle injury. Because the running game was really doing pretty good last week, especially the start. I think also they really, the first couple of weeks they were really isolating, especially first and second down on these 12 personnel runs. Condensed formations where it's like you're really, it's a, it's a run kill. Do a run where you're like, there's no threat of the quarterback. And it's when Jalen is a threat and he's keeping this stuff on the backside and it prevents the end or the backside backer from crashing down on it because he might keep it out and dish it. And this past week they got a lot more to the like, I don't even know if it's a, a read or if it's a predetermined. Keep with Dallas Goddard slipping the end on the backside and you have like your high low in the corner and the flat. Like they were doing that a lot and it was very successful. And then that controls the end and the backside backer for when you do hand this off. Right? So I think that getting more to. How can we control the backside? Because nine times out of 10, those are a lot of the guys that make the play on a lot of the other runs. So if you start controlling that, you start making the defense respect the full width of the field. Right. They can't cage down on this box. Whether it's to stop the run or to take away whatever you're trying to do, I think that that'll free up the running game even more. So it's a combination of a lot of that stuff. And they also, you know, they haven't executed well. Blocking some of that stuff in the 12 and 13 personnel just hasn't been executed at a high level.
Travis Kelsey
When you look at that roster on the offensive side, they have so much fucking talent, man. 18 points or 17 points even against.
Jason Kelsey
The Broncos, which are one of the best defenses in the NFL.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah. There's too many options, too much you got to think about, man. I'm sure they'll get that thing rolling.
Jason Kelsey
To me, I know the second half didn't go well. There were plays to be had. It wasn't like nobody was open, which is what they've been criticized for a lot. And the run game looked better. They were averaging more yards per carry, especially before Landon went down. It felt like they were generating some push and getting some open lanes. There was a big play that Jalen ended up throwing on, but they had a Saquon on this toss play that if that would have got actually ran, would have been a huge chunk play. I think it was wide open. But anyways, who they got coming up, they're going to New York Thursday night. MetLife. Short week on the worst turf in the NFL. Well, it's better than it used to be. You know, they got a rebound. Giants. Listen, I know their schedule or their record doesn't indicate that they're a great football team, but these guys are playing pretty good. Jackson Dart has re energized them.
Travis Kelsey
Get some energy, man.
Jason Kelsey
Cam, what's Scatterbow? Whatever. These guys, there's a lot of youthful.
Travis Kelsey
That boy's a dog now.
Jason Kelsey
I love it. Andy Reid used to say this all the time when I was a young player. He's like youthful enthusiasm. The young guys got to bring energy. That's your job. You should be excited to be in.
Travis Kelsey
This league and right now to play in the NFL.
Jason Kelsey
And right now, the Giants have that in spades. Man. This guy Jackson Dart. Scatterbo. I'm saying that right? They're playing with a lot of juice. This dude pancaked a as a lead blocker. Did you see that clip?
Travis Kelsey
The end?
Jason Kelsey
Yes.
Travis Kelsey
Drunken sailor does that, dog.
Jason Kelsey
Check this out. Boom, dog.
Travis Kelsey
Oh, my God, I love that.
Jason Kelsey
Get under his skin. Try and get a free 15. All on. All on board. It's A different team than they've been all year. And you can see the energy throughout on the. On their side. Even though they did lose to the Saints. Can't take them lightly defensively. They got a great D line, and right now, offensive line, we're banged up. Tackle positions are great. Landon, I don't know if he's going to be in or out. So it's. It'll be a fun one, man. Little NFC east rivalry. Always love to see that. Get to watch my guys on Thursday night do their thing. So it'll be fun.
Travis Kelsey
A little Thursday Night Football. We're playing a little Sunday Night Football, man. Prime time action, baby. Coming at you guys. Let's get to the rest of the league. No more unbeatens. That's right. We just talked about the Eagles loss of the Broncos, but the Bills got upset by the Patriots. Is the first season without a 50 football team since 2014. And crazy. It seems like everything's kind of wide open, baby. That's why it's sitting at 2 and 3 right now. Feels shitty, but it's still anybody's ballgame.
Jason Kelsey
It's a marathon, baby. It's not. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon.
Travis Kelsey
It's always through this thing. We've only played once, one divisional game so far. Yeah, we played the Chargers. That's it.
Jason Kelsey
We were talking about this on Monday night, and this was my kind of, like, highlight. I just think it's crazy that there's not really a team and you guys are probably facing the one that's looked the best since the first week. Like, Detroit has looked really good outside of the first week of the season when they struggled, but ever since then, they've been rolling. But you can make a case for, like 12 or 13 teams right now to be in the super bowl race. And normally by this point in the season, there's like two or three in the AFC and two or three in the nfc, and those are the teams that everybody knows are going to be the competitive ones towards the end of the year. So it's been a little crazy with how much parody the NFL has going on this year. I love it, man. It's first couple of weeks, everybody's like, hey, Green Bay's it. Green Bay's got it going. They're going to be the team. Now everybody's on the Lions, and it's like everybody's on the Eagles, and everybody's on. The Chiefs are back. Then everybody's been on the Bills, and all of a sudden they drop One. Speaking of Sunday football to the Patriots, like it's, it's been a while. First five weeks of the season and yeah, it was a. It was a wild Sunday Night Football with the Bills obviously losing to the Patriots. Shout out to Mike Vrabel. He's getting them boys right over there in New England. No doubt they were playing with some passion and some freaking Mike Vrabel esque energy. Especially freaking Drake May. Talk about competitor. All the off schedule stuff making things happen down the field. Stefan Diggs playing his former team going off. Like how the Bills. Like if there's one player I'm not letting ruin the game is Stefan Diggs coming back into his old home. I'm double teaming up. Like what are we doing?
Travis Kelsey
I think it's.
Jason Kelsey
I think it's harder than I'm making it seem.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, I think it's a little harder than what?
Jason Kelsey
You can't just double them every single time.
Travis Kelsey
Especially with all the plays they were making outside of the pocket. You know he made it. They. Drake May, he made a bunch of.
Jason Kelsey
Off schedule freaking adjustments. Yeah, that one where he's stiff arming the dude and gets it like that was.
Travis Kelsey
That's crazy. And then Stefan gets it and goes 15.
Jason Kelsey
That was a great game to watch. Even though the first half was fucking some of the worst football scene of a long time. Down to the only winless team. That's right. The Saints and Titans got their first wins of the week. Which means Jets. Jake and his jets are oh and five. The only 05 team. They almost stuck out the first week against the Steelers.
Travis Kelsey
That's what I'm thinking of.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, they. They had that. They also almost snuck out. Oh my God. Who was it against? When they blocked the field goal and took it back. They end up losing though. It was Tampa. It was Tampa. Tampa. Thank you.
Jake
Yeah, no problem. I appreciate this.
Jason Kelsey
Figured you'd chime in, Jake.
Travis Kelsey
Thanks, Jake.
Jason Kelsey
So yeah, but outside of that, it's.
Travis Kelsey
Been this tough sled. Zero takeaways through five games. And their defense is kind of their staple.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, I mean, you know they like to play a lot of man. It's hard to get takeaways and man coverage and interceptions and whatnot. That's more of his own thing. But they do their thing. They do their thing. Chad's playing in London next week. Rule change pitch from the New Heights production team. If a winless team plays overseas and loses, they have to stay there until they get a win. International games being loser stays is not the worst proposal. It's kind of funny.
Travis Kelsey
Now, I was about to say, yeah.
Jason Kelsey
If they could find a way to make that work from a scheduling standpoint, that'd be hilarious. But anyways, Titans and Cards gave us a no. Dumb question. Tell us about what game film meetings look like after a player does something so incredibly idiotic, like dropping the full football before the end zone.
Travis Kelsey
I mean, I've never been. Unfortunately, never been a part of that. I've been a part of some dumb football.
Jason Kelsey
I'll say this. Typically, when something so just, like is, like, flabbergasting, it's not even hyped up to the level that I think you would expect. Does that make sense? Like, if this happened and I feel like I was the coach or, like, some of the coaches I've had, it'd be like, guys, like, what are we doing?
Travis Kelsey
What the fuck are we doing? Yeah, what are we doing?
Jason Kelsey
Finish through the letters and logos. Like, because the real. The reality is this dude's been crushed enough. Like, he knows right away he up.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
So typically, the coach is more. He's like, we don't need to harp on it from, like, a crushing standpoint.
Travis Kelsey
No, we're not.
Jason Kelsey
It's more like a. Guys, we know we can't do this. You re. Emphasize the rule. Because, like, for, like, for the Eagles, the rule that Nick always used was finish through the letters and logos. Like, whatever you do after you get through the letters and logos with the ball is on you, but do not drop that ball until you get to the letters and logos.
Travis Kelsey
So tough, man.
Jason Kelsey
So usually the coach just reemphasizes that specific rule in whatever. Like, there's like, a bonehead playbait. It's like, okay, guys, listen, we know we can't do this. It's been harped on enough, yada, yada, yada, and you move on. That's typically the way it happens when it's like. Like some. A type of mistake like that. By the way, I was talking with SVP before Monday Night Football. I kind of like the rule. We should. We should convert the. As a rule. We should say you got to finish like a rugby. You got to touch it down. Touch it down in the end zone and then do whatever the you want. But you got to have control and put it in the end zone before you can do anything else. What do you think? No, not on board.
Travis Kelsey
Because what happens?
Jason Kelsey
Let's just not drop the ball before the end. Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
What happens if you get a toe?
Jason Kelsey
We don't need to overdo this. Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah. I like a Little toe tap in the back of the end zone for the game. You know what I mean?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. But then you get up right away and you put it down the end zone. Maybe it's just your thing. Like every single time you do it. Bam. Yeah, that was a pretty egregious one. It was a. I mean, one of the most wild losses I've ever seen in my life. Shout out to Cam Ward. Not even that. Like the, the. The ball that's like bouncing all over the place and ends up getting completed.
Travis Kelsey
Like that is what football like in my mind, that's what I see. I see the fucking awkward shaped ball just getting kicked around like a fucking. I don't even know, man. It's like. It's like somebody just greased that thing up and just said, go and jump on it. And whoever jumps on it, somebody jumps on there, Whoop. Just flops out the other side. Like another guy kicks it, another guy kicks it. And the team that threw the pick finds a way to get it in the end zone. Dude, I fell on. I fell on.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, here we go.
Travis Kelsey
It's so insane. Hit, pass, boom. Into the other team's hand. Great catch. Hits the ground. Fumble kick, slap kick.
Jason Kelsey
You couldn't even like script this. I feel like it would be unrealistic to script this in a movie.
Travis Kelsey
If you try to do this in a movie, it would have to be like cgi. It would have to be. It'd have to be like some like AI, like kick, kick, hit, kick, jumps on it. It's on his neck, dude. Insane.
Jason Kelsey
One of the crazy ending, craziest endings.
Travis Kelsey
I had a. It wasn't a crazy ending like that, but it was kind of like what the. At the end of the play was my, My first year playing, not my rookie year. My first year actually like getting on the field. 2014, we didn't have a wide receiver score a touchdown and we had a play going into the last game. We. We were out of the playoffs. And my guy, Chase Daniels, and we ran just like this little like Tampa concept to get Dwayne bow the ball around the five yard line, opened up wide open. Dwayne doesn't even know he's that open and just kind of catches it and starts to like backpedal thinking he's just going to fall into the end zone. Gets hit by like three people. Ball pops out on like the one right into my hand. I'm sitting in the ends and I'm just looking at Dwayne like this Is silly. The whole year we went 16 games without a wide receiver getting in the end zone. And then the last game, we get all the way down to the one and it pops out just to get into a fucking different position's hands.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, there's a question on here. When teams do dumb, does it get brought up on film for other teams? Actually, this is one of my favorite films that we do each week or did with Nick Sirianni every Saturday morning, I think it was. We would do, like, the things not to do tape. I don't know if that's what it was called, but that's what I felt like it was. And it was just stuff around the league that guys messed up, whether it was situational ball, bad ball, security, like things that you're constantly preaching on where, like, it didn't go in the favor of a player or a team, and it was like, just very much reassuring, like, these are the things that will lose you games. And this fumble for sure is on that tape from this basketball week, right? It just is. There's a handful of them every single week.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah. No, I mean, Coach Nags Nagy made the. The comment the morning of. Of our game yesterday. Yeah, don't be that guy. Don't be that.
Jason Kelsey
You don't want to be known for that.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, you don't want to be known for that. And on top of that, you don't want the team to look at you like that, you know?
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, you don't want to be that guy. We don't need to keep harping on. I mean, that kid's been crushed enough. No, Sean Jackson did the same thing. I mean, it's been done. It's been done a surprising amount of times. It's actually crazy.
Travis Kelsey
Every year at least once or twice.
Jason Kelsey
Like, I'm just saying what. What motivates? I don't know. I never had the opportunity to drop.
Travis Kelsey
The ball.
Jason Kelsey
So I guess I have no fucking idea.
Travis Kelsey
Fast enough to just be running into the. I've never been on that side of the defense. I've always had the defenders in front of me for some reason.
Jason Kelsey
So true. Oh, God.
Travis Kelsey
I've had maybe a handful where it's been like that, but.
Jason Kelsey
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You know what's not smart?
Jason Kelsey
Not checking Allstate first. They can save you hundreds on car insurance.
Travis Kelsey
No. Not checking your stadium's bag policy before.
Jason Kelsey
Ah, yeah. Not smart. Not smart.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah.
Jason Kelsey
Having to trek back to your car in the parking lot and missing kickoff isn't how anyone wants to start game day. No.
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Travis Kelsey
How about it?
Jason Kelsey
Great app to use when you're out of the house.
Travis Kelsey
Jason, you're the only one. How about that? The. The out of the house segment started with me never being in the house.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
And you always being in the house to now me always being in the house.
Jason Kelsey
First of all, you're not.
Travis Kelsey
I still always get out of the house.
Jason Kelsey
And I'm out of the house because it's my job. I have to travel every single week. It's not like I'm super thrilled. Although it is. It has been fun. I'm not gonna lie. I do like getting out of the house. Did go over to Ireland recently and that was not part of my job. That was solely to play golf and have fun. So I guess I'm lying a little bit. This week I was out of the house in Jacksonville.
Travis Kelsey
Jason, you dropped a video on Instagram about your trip to Peter May's house of Kielbasa in Kansas City. When did you. When did you come to Kansas City and do that?
Jason Kelsey
This was earlier. This is a. We've. We filmed this with out an idea of when we were going to release it or what we were going to do with the content. But we. One of the things that we're trying to do is highlight cool establishments and cities and areas that we go that are like one of ones mom and pop shops that have been open for a long time or are like landmarks of specific communities that people just love. And we kind of heard through the grapevine that Peter Maze House of Cabassa was a one of one, like interesting spot. It looks cool. It's in a neighborhood that used to be very industrial within the city of Kansas City. I don't even think you would have been to this place.
Travis Kelsey
I mean, I've been over there. I've been over there. I know it's. I know what's Going on over there. I know what's going on everywhere in Kansas City, man.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
Either way, a lot of establishments. Not the sausage factory, though.
Jason Kelsey
Well, this was legitimately a sausage factory. Yeah, it was. It was. It was awesome. I think, you know, for. For me, I love going to spots like this. I love going to unique, unique areas.
Travis Kelsey
It's pretty cool because there's so many unique spots like that just in Kansas City, from what I'm thinking of and let alone nationwide is probably some of the most like unique things about the cities is that it's. The people from there all know about it, but it's not on like a national stage.
Jason Kelsey
It's kind of like diners drive ins and dives. Obviously Guy Fieri very successful with a very similar.
Travis Kelsey
Are you trying to take his job?
Jason Kelsey
No, definitely not.
Travis Kelsey
White hair. White hair.
Jason Kelsey
Well, he's got some good hair. I'll get. I'll give Guy that. And he's got good taste.
Travis Kelsey
But I feel like guys good.
Jason Kelsey
To me, it's not even as much about the food. Like, I still love highlighting the food because obviously that's the main reason people are going. A lot of the reasons I like places like this, it's more about who's working behind the counter, the waitresses, keeping.
Travis Kelsey
This thing above float. Who got this thing through Covet who's.
Jason Kelsey
People that are there.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, people coming through that. Those swinging doors, man.
Jason Kelsey
Well, it's the. It's usually the community that supports it and like, it's that the patrons that end up coming. Like you're shooting the shit with people that are there. And I don't know, man, it's just. It feels awesome. It feels like there's a spirit to establishments like this. It feels like there's a soul to them. Like, I just very much vibe with the overall ethos of a lot of these establishments. And Peter Mae's house of Good Boss is tremendous in Kansas City, if you get a chance, highly recommend it. Kielbasa is fantastic. Mike Mama, who's been working there, mama May for 76 years. At least that's what I'm calling her. You know, it was just. It was a very special place. This happened when I was out in Cincinnati or about out when I was in Kansas City. We were going to the Cincinnati Bearcats game, so hit up. Peter Mays then met an awesome woman named Karen who was from Belton, had driven all the way up there just to get some kielbasa and she was not disappointed. So, yeah, I think we're still trying to figure out what these are, if we're just like releasing them on social media, We've already filmed some other ones in Chicago. Just went to Jacksonville this week. Do I play? I went to Jacksonville. Check this out.
Travis Kelsey
I'm checking it out.
Jason Kelsey
So after the recording with you, we.
Travis Kelsey
Were you Andy, brother man, thank you.
Jason Kelsey
So much for sitting down and doing that. We needed to watch the games because I got to comment on all this stuff on Monday night. So we just look up a sports bar and there's a sports bar close by. We pull up to the sports bar. It's a ice rink. Like I pull up like, brother, this is the community. Igloo on the building. The sports bar is in the ice rink. There's two ice rinks on either side. Right in the middle is a full on Big Ass TV's sports bar, restaurant. And the whole time there's in Jacksonville and there's beer leagues happening and guys are coming in, they're playing. So we're just watching football. There's hockey games happening around us with beer leagues. Dudes, you get on the ice. This place is incredible. I got on the ice. One of the guys came up.
Travis Kelsey
What?
Jason Kelsey
I'm just watching. I'm probably like eight beers deep too at this point. Been watching football for the last freaking four hours, dude.
Travis Kelsey
No way.
Jason Kelsey
The guy comes up and say, hey, do you want to play? I'm like, actually, I kind of do, but I don't have any equipment. I go to the freaking local shop, buy gloves, pants, shin guards.
Travis Kelsey
Played against sports?
Jason Kelsey
No, it was just. It was the in house, like little in the restaurant. Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
Nice.
Jason Kelsey
So I got everything. Got some rental skates. Big mistake. The left skate was really dull. I could not skate very well on it, but you know, I didn't want to. I rather play in rental skates than to break in a brand new pair on the spot. Because at least the rental skates have been broken into somewhat. But it was not good. It was very dull, but had a blast, man. It was. It was fun playing with those guys. Very nice of them. I think it was. I'm trying to remember the name of the team. They're sponsored by an Indian. Oh, dude, I got to get this. Hold on. This is a fucking good bit. I was sponsored. They were sponsored by an Indian food restaurant and they gave me the player of the game even though they lost. They usually only do it when they win and they lost. One of the big reasons, because I couldn't skate backwards and gave up a really bad goal.
Travis Kelsey
God damn it, Jason.
Jason Kelsey
I tried. I Was, like, fumbling around. I was falling on the ice. It was pretty shitty. Again. It was always my left foot.
Travis Kelsey
Everyone knows you got to bring your skates everywhere.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. All the time. When you don't know that you're going.
Travis Kelsey
To an ice rink, you're going to Place Florida, dude.
Jason Kelsey
It was. It was awesome. It was cool. Yeah. Let me get this. This is what I won as player of the game.
Travis Kelsey
Player of the game that couldn't escape backwards. This is like getting a certificate for participation. Oh, maybe if we give Jason the player of the game, he'll talk about us on his podcast. That's what happened, Jason. You weren't the player of the game. I would never tell him that to his face. Yeah, baby.
Jason Kelsey
Little turbine action, which I'll probably get canceled for this, but whatever. Also, with the tpc, it's so perfect. These guys are great. I can't wait to get back out on the ice. I'm. I'm joining a beer league this year. I'm doing it.
Travis Kelsey
Do it. There's got to be a bunch of good ones, Philly, dude. It's got to be a bunch of good ones. Don't get into one where we're gonna catch a headline of Jason knocking somebody out on the ice, though. Just get into a nice, playful one. Don't get into a serious one.
Jason Kelsey
I also guess fortunate to go to TPC Sawgrass right before the interview we did with you. And I know I told you this, but bird eat hole 17, which they give you this bag tag when you go play there.
Travis Kelsey
Dude, bad tags are my favorite, man.
Jason Kelsey
And if you get whatever score you get on that hole, you get to have it engraved.
Travis Kelsey
Nice. Yeah, baby. Nice. Can't see it.
Jason Kelsey
Can't even see it.
Travis Kelsey
It's beautiful, though. It does. It looks like a dope bag tag.
Jason Kelsey
I was so happy. I had an eight on the hole before that. So happy I got four putted. I don't even want to talk about it. Four putted, Travis. I don't even want to talk about it. It was abysmal day putting for me.
Travis Kelsey
I can't wait to see you dressed up as the blue man crew. The fact that you think you can go three days in the.
Jason Kelsey
I have never been more positive. I am striking the ball very well right now.
Travis Kelsey
Just letting you know it's taking you forward strokes just to get to the green, and then you're four putting.
Jason Kelsey
All right, baby. It was a. It was a part five. It was part five.
Travis Kelsey
And you're good thing for you.
Jason Kelsey
I went in the water. I hit a great four.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, that eight.
Jason Kelsey
It sounds horrendous. I hit a drive. I tried to clear the water with a fire and hit it so damn good. Just wasn't quite long enough. Yeah, I mean, it was. It wasn't the right club. I. I would have had to hit three. I was trying to carry it 220.
Travis Kelsey
And I just didn't get three iron.
Jason Kelsey
I do. And I should have hit it because I caught it clean. I was hitting my irons really well.
Travis Kelsey
You strike your irons. You are fucking steep with that fucking club. So you're good with your irons.
Jason Kelsey
Well, not the longer irons. I got to go a little more shallow in the longer irons. I can't go that steep. Otherwise I come out too. I don't know. Whatever. I've been doing better with the golf game, though, and I am going to be positive this year. I can't wait. It's going to be electric. I might even compete for that thing. I'm telling you, dude, I'm. I've never been more positive. I'm turning this thing around.
Travis Kelsey
You got to get Brandon back on the bag, man.
Jason Kelsey
There's no chance we. At this point, if I want to be positive, I'm gonna need a real caddy. I cannot have the train. But the caddy I had last year, Joe was a trainer for like you.
Travis Kelsey
Did, you did worse.
Jason Kelsey
That was not Joe's fault. It was not Joe's fault. But.
Travis Kelsey
You need Joe.
Jason Kelsey
But the. But the year before with Brandon. First of all. First of all, I did not do worse. I had the exact same score and I finished better. So you're wrong.
Brandon
I did because there was more people.
Jason Kelsey
So either way, I had the same score. If no matter which way you strike it, I did not do worse.
Brandon
So I didn't.
Travis Kelsey
So it's not on me.
Brandon
So I lost one glove, Jason. It's not on me. You threw it in a place I wasn't looking.
Jason Kelsey
I also didn't have a greens book this year. I had to actually put the ball.
Brandon
Who got you that greens book? Who got you that greens book? Who carried it around? And you said, what a hole were you on? I said, I don't know.
Jason Kelsey
Who did that for you?
Brandon
That was me.
Jason Kelsey
Brandon, I want you to be there. You're just not the caddy. I don't know why you need to be the caddy. Just come and be a fives guy.
Travis Kelsey
Fives guy?
Brandon
Yeah, guy.
Jason Kelsey
That's what you're better at.
Travis Kelsey
The best caddy there.
Brandon
Brandon, I'D bring you, dude, I can't hold a candle to that, man.
Jason Kelsey
Nobody. Nobody's taking bacon.
Brandon
Every time I see bacon, I get so I will.
Travis Kelsey
I will. Bacon is my C opalite in Tahoe until bacon is my humid opalite.
Brandon
I see bacon and I start just vibing the bacon.
Jason Kelsey
We've been recording a lot of this stuff out of the house because we know that it's fun and it highlights these communities. We're still trying to figure out what's we've thought about is it out of the house and we put it up on YouTube within new heights. Do we put it out on social? Obviously we did the Peter Maze one out on social. But either way, look forward to bringing a lot of this content that we're filming while we're out and about to you guys. I think you'll appreciate it. Some really awesome people that deserve to have their establishments highlighted or hilarious individuals to. To see. So, yeah, excited to bring all that stuff to you guys.
Travis Kelsey
Oh, yeah. Well, once again, out of house brought to you by WhatsApp.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah, baby.
Travis Kelsey
Talk to everyone worldwide. All under one app.
Jason Kelsey
Thank you to our partner, DraftKings Pick Six. We're knee deep in the season at this point and we've got some great matchups heading into week six slate of games. So let's have the New Heights team construct a pick set on DraftKings pick six with our favorite picks for the weekend. What do you think, Brandon? That's.
Brandon
I don't know why the tone of that wasn't appreciated. That's fine. I'll leave that in the edit for those who are unfamiliar. All you need to do to create a pick set is choose two or more players and select whether they'll have more or less than a certain stat and play for cash prizes. Jake, you are locked in. Smartest in.
Jake
All right, gotta back one of our friends of the show, Baker Mayfield. He's been electric MVP candidate this season. I'm going with Baker Mayfield more than one and a half touchdown passes playing. Who did I say? Oh, he's playing. He's playing the Niners. So Niners riding high off of beating a divisional opponent. I think they get blown out by the Bucks. I'm going with Baker and then blown out.
Brandon
And prediction, that is not on the app. But Jacob, Jacky Bull.
Jake
Listen. Or at least you know. Yeah, I'll stand by it.
Jason Kelsey
I got Baker more than four touchdowns going up.
Jake
Baker more than everything.
Jason Kelsey
Yeah. You could let him talk to you like that, Niners fans. Yeah, right.
Jake
He's our guy. We love Baker. I will support him till the end of the earth.
Jason Kelsey
Second pick.
Jake
I'm going Puka Nakua and the Rams, they're playing against the Ravens who have been banged up on the defense.
Brandon
Say no more.
Jake
Puka Nuku up for everything but I'm specifically for our pick set going more receptions. I think Stafford is just going to feed him the ball with him getting open all game.
Travis Kelsey
All right.
Brandon
I'm gonna throw two picks in there. I'm gonna stick with Jake on this one. I'm gonna go Stafford more yards against the Ravens. I feel like pick another.
Jason Kelsey
I mean we're not picking.
Jake
You're sensing the theme here.
Jason Kelsey
We're just going where the where the.
Brandon
Yards have been and I've seen the yards against the Ravens. I think Stafford put up what, almost 400 last week. So I I feel good about our guy.
Jason Kelsey
All right.
Brandon
I'm also going to go Dak Prescott more yards against the Panthers. I feel like Dak has been underratedly hot balling out. He is throwing that rock around even without CD Lamb. I think George Pickens is his guy. So I'm gonna go Dak Prescott more yards against the Panthers.
Jason Kelsey
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See terms@pick6.draftkings.com promos let's keep this thing moving to stamp of the week. We got a bunch of nominees, but I gotta go with one that's near and dear to my heart. Tay Tay, congratulations. You get my stamp of the week.
Jason Kelsey
You're giving Taylor the stamp?
Travis Kelsey
That's right, honey. You get it.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, my gosh.
Travis Kelsey
She's.
Jason Kelsey
I mean, yeah, it's pretty good.
Travis Kelsey
Yeah, she's having a world record release of the life of a showgirl. Couldn't be more proud of her. Most vinyl copies sold in one week in the US with 1.2 million. And then on top of that, it sold 2.7 million copies in just 24 hours. The fate of Ophelia was the most streamed song in a single day in Spotify history just on Friday. So stamp of the week goes to. Tay Tay. So proud of you, girl. And yeah, who do you got, Jason?
Jason Kelsey
Oh, man. I'm gonna give my stamp of the week to the 92 percenters in Minneapolis with the New Heights Halloween decoration. Check this out from Axiest Wind Cities shout out to you guys. I've never been a part of a. A Halloween kind of setup. We need to get a beard on one of these skeletons.
Travis Kelsey
Maybe both of them. New frights. Nice.
Jason Kelsey
Who do you think? Who do you think is the hard eyes?
Travis Kelsey
Gotta be you, right? Yeah, that skeleton's way fatter on the list.
Jason Kelsey
Hey, Big boned. We prefer Big Bone.
Travis Kelsey
Big Bone.
Jason Kelsey
My bad. Also special shout out to Scott Free27 on Twitter. Getting it started right away. As a football dad. This is the way you do it. Right up on the screen. Probably terrible for their eyes, but she's gonna. You gotta burn Patrick Mahomes style into the retina early, brother.
Travis Kelsey
I love it.
Jason Kelsey
Way to go. Love it, love it.
Travis Kelsey
It's definitely not good for the retina.
Jason Kelsey
No, it's terrible. All right, that about wraps up this episode. New Heights. Thank you for tuning in. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights in the Woody. Reappear over. Get your podcast. Podcast reminder. We are dropping our episode with Dwayne the Rock Johnson on Monday. Be sure to tune in. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wonder Re app or on Apple podcasts.
Travis Kelsey
Once again, New Heights of Wondery show brought to you by Peloton. Follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s. And thank you to our New Heights production for always making us look way better than we are. And again, thank you to the nice 92 percenters for always tuning in. We love you guys. We'll get this thing back on track. Juice, let's go. We almost used Jabroni As a nickname for fans of this show, do you own the word jabroni?
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
I do not own the word jabroni. I think it's just out there. I own the name the Rock, not jabroni.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, no, but wait, I might own.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
That because I own everything associated with the Rock. Like, it doesn't matter if you smell. So I might. I know that. Let me give him props. The iron chic was. He made that word.
Jason Kelsey
He made it.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
He made that word famous. So he used to. Especially in the locker room, oh, this jabroni is to just jabroni. Is that so he would call people jabroni. So that's where I got it from. I always got to give him flowers. But it's really cool. It's actually in the Webster's dictionary, and I get the credit for it. But it's. It's really the iron sheet.
Jason Kelsey
It's really the iron sheet. Yeah.
Travis Kelsey
A lot of people are asking me because I. I said it on. After we won one of the AFC championships, I got on the mic and called the Cincinnati Mariners, Brody, for calling us out.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
Oh, I know you did. I know you did.
Jason Kelsey
I was like, yeah, let's go.
Travis Kelsey
Wait my whole life to get this mic. You jump Ronnie.
Jason Kelsey
A lot of. A lot of the.
Travis Kelsey
Like, by, like, mom's friends or dad's friends or the just, like, people in the building. Western, like, what's. What's a jabroni? Exactly. If you don't know, you're probably a jabroni.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
You don't want to be called a jabroni.
Jason Kelsey
Oh, my gosh.
Travis Kelsey
That's the best.
Jason Kelsey
What is the greatest rock insult of all time?
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
The greatest rock insult of all time is. Okay, what's your opinion? Who's going to win the super bowl this year?
Jason Kelsey
Who's going to win the super bowl this year?
Travis Kelsey
It's got to be this. It's got to be the Kansas City Chiefs, right?
Jason Kelsey
All right.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
Got to be the Kansas City Chiefs. Well, the Rock, now, I'm speaking as a rock. Well, the Rock says, you take your opinion that it's got to be the Kansas City Chiefs. You take your opinion, you roll it up. Anybody. That's right. You know what's coming.
Jason Kelsey
You roll that something.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
You turn it sideways and stick it straight up.
Jason Kelsey
Your candy.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
That was a crazy insult. I. I remember those guys at WWE.
Travis Kelsey
At that time, it was like, your candy.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
They were like, where did this come from? And I remember saying, well, you know, telling somebody to stick something up their asses, you know, that's an insult. But when you turn it sideways.
Travis Kelsey
When.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
You turn your opinion sideways, it's a whole different thing.
Jason Kelsey
So good. God dang, that's good. That's gold.
Release Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Jason Kelce & Travis Kelce
Special Segment: The Life of a Showgirl Album Review
In this episode, Jason and Travis Kelce serve up a hearty blend of football analysis, brotherly banter, and a deep-dive album review of Taylor Swift’s new release, "The Life of a Showgirl." The show oscillates between hilarious, honest sports takes and pop culture commentary with the pair recapping Week 5 in the NFL—especially the dramatic Chiefs/Jaguars showdown—Jason’s “cancellation,” and exploring what it’s like to be in the orbit of one of the world’s biggest pop stars.
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First Impressions & Favorites:
Inside Perspective:
On Specific Tracks:
Notable Quote:
Family Reactions:
Success Stats:
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Chiefs vs. Jaguars Recap:
Travis’s Franchise Record:
Eagles-Broncos Recap:
Around the NFL:
Film Session & Dumb Plays:
(Starts 56:34 and again at 53:24 for segment set-up)
Out of the House:
Golf Outings:
Fan Shout-Outs:
Easter Eggs & Internet Moments:
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This episode channels the brotherly chemistry, sarcasm, and insight that have made "New Heights" must-listen sports entertainment. The discussion oscillates between deeply personal pop culture reviews, self-deprecating humor, and high-level football breakdowns. The genuine pride Travis shares in Taylor’s transcendent music release, met by Jason’s analytical and emotional commentary, humanizes both superstars. As always, the NFL talk is unapologetically honest—no sugarcoating for their own teams—and the tangents (from sausage shops to spontaneous hockey games) offer plenty for diehard and casual fans alike.
For newcomers and regular listeners alike, this episode is a snapshot of Kelce family culture: competitive, supportive, and always ready with a punchline.