New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce | Ep 157

"Travis is Feeling 2-2, Eagles 4-0 Frustrations, Coach Fights and Jason's Ireland Adventure"
October 1, 2025 | Wondery

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, brothers and NFL stars Jason and Travis Kelce dive into an eventful Week 4 in the NFL. They break down the Chiefs' rebound to a 2-2 record, the undefeated (yet scrutinized) Eagles at 4-0, memorable moments across the league, player frustrations, and locker room dynamics. Plus, Jason details his much-anticipated trip to Ireland for the Steelers-Vikings game, sharing golf stories and local color. The episode is filled with classic Kelce humor, brotherly roastings, and candid insights about football, life, and family.

Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Show & Guest Updates (02:20–04:00)

• New Programming Announcement:
  Jason announces that with the podcast’s growing popularity (now #1 in football and movies!), new episodes, including bonus ones with celebrity guests, will drop on different days.

  • Notable past guests: Deion Sanders, Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio del Toro.
  • Quote — Jason: "This podcast is so beneath Leonardo DiCaprio's talent. And I'm like, I mean, I don't disagree with you one, period." (03:00)

• Travis’ Birthday Approaches (04:00–05:00)
  The brothers joke about Travis’s lackluster "birthday games" and their shared indifference toward birthdays.

  • Fun detour into Libra astrology and numerology (with Travis learning his "celestial authority" at 36 might signal a big game).

2. Chiefs' 37–20 Win Over Ravens: Analysis (07:43–13:00)

• Travis’ Perspective:
  Energized sideline atmosphere, special teams, and spreading the ball—"God damn, that shit’s fun, man." (08:44)
• Game Breakdown:
  • Chiefs Offense: Xavier Worthy's return provided explosive plays and versatility: "It is crazy how much that threat of speed... affects the entire offense." — Jason (09:22)
  • Balanced Weapons: Hollywood Brown, JuJu, and Taekwon Thornton’s development.
  • Chiefs Defense: Praises Spagnuolo’s unit for handling the Ravens dynamic offense and overcoming adversity, particularly recognizing Chris Jones’s performance after a family loss.
    • Quote — Travis: "It’s an escape from reality and... Sundays, man—sometimes it’s just something you need." (14:52)
• Notable Moment:
  Chris Jones’s arrival and play after a funeral, and Leo Chenal’s impressive one-handed interception: "He's just a baller, man." — Travis (17:51)

3. Deep Dive: The Chiefs’ Offensive Identity (19:35–23:58)

• Mahomes Milestones: Becomes youngest and fastest (at 116 games) to reach 250 TD passes. (20:00)
• Offensive Evolution: Jason expects the return of more explosive plays, reinforced by Worthy’s and Rashee Rice’s impact: "This offense, I really feel like, is about to take off." — Jason (20:04)
• RPO (Run-Pass Option) Debate: Jason argues against "blanket statements" dismissing RPOs, emphasizing strategic diversity and unpredictability:
  • Quote — "It all fucking works. You just got to protect it." (22:04)

4. Eagles Stay Undefeated: 4–0…But Under Fire (28:02–38:26)

• Game Recap vs Tampa Bay: Early dominance with special teams and turnovers; inconsistency in the second half.
• Public Scrutiny: Despite 4-0, the offense and stars like A.J. Brown and Saquon Barkley criticized for lackluster stats.
• A.J. Brown Social Media Frustration:
  • Quote — Jason: "I don't think it’s unfathomable that a player of A.J. Brown’s caliber... should be upset... he is not being utilized." (31:00)
  • Both discuss the fine line between being a "good teammate" and voicing the need for targets.
• Communication is Key:
  Travis: "Whenever I was searching for more opportunities in a game... I would go up to Pat or the coaches and make sure they know that I'm on the same page." (34:03)
• Team Outlook: Jason is optimistic, drawing parallels with the Chiefs' early struggles: "To me, I'm optimistic as a motherfucker right now. But we do got to get it fixed." (36:39)
• Defense & Role Players: Praise for Jalen Carter’s team-first mentality and defensive play.

5. League-wide Highlights, Controversies, and Lowlights

— Broncos Preview (38:43–39:53)

• Eagles’ upcoming matchup discussed, focusing on Pat Surtain and Denver’s secondary: "It's a big test for the Philadelphia Eagles, a really good test against a really good defensive personnel team." (39:39)

— Coach Fights and Signal-Stealing Drama (40:18–43:34)

• Discussion of the public “coach fight” between Robert Saleh and Liam Cohen over alleged sign-stealing.
  • Jason: "Everybody in the NFL steals signals to a certain extent. I'm not buying this." (41:09)
  • Both argue that signal-stealing is part of the game, and blame falls on poor signaling.

— Notable Quotes of the Week (43:34–47:46)

• Titans QB Cam Ward’s brutal honesty: "If we're keeping it a buck, we're ass." (44:24)
• Jets’ Breece Hall: "We shoot ourselves in the foot, then come back and shoot ourselves in the head." (45:33)

— Ties and NFL Overtime (46:08–47:46)

• Jason and Travis despise NFL ties, pitch creative fixes (e.g., sumo-wrestle or Nutcracker drill for the win):
  • Quote — Jason: "I don't want tie. I just want this game over and I want to have a team that wins it." (47:12)
• Jerry Jones' famous quip about ties: "I've never kissed my sister, so how's it taste?" (49:42)

— Week 4 Quick Hits (48:34–49:25)

• Cowboys’ offensive surge, defensive struggles.
• Packers faltering.
• Lessons about overreacting early in the season.

6. Jason’s Ireland Adventure: Out of the House (55:15–64:52)

• Trip Recap: Jason shares tales from Ireland attending the Steelers-Vikings game at Croke Park.
  • Played iconic local golf courses; highlights include meeting Irish storyteller Eddie Lenihan and "bucket ride" at the Dublin fire brigade (intense fear of heights).
  • Social commentary on beer’s historic cultural role and Irish mythologies.
  • Afternoon with Bill Murray, Tom Coyne, and a meaningful reflection on the cross-cultural love of sport.
    • Quote — Jason: "It was just like a—there's close to like a golf religious experience that I've ever really had." (61:06)
  • NFL’s first-ever game in Dublin – huge, passionate crowd, unlike London’s “all-star game” feel.
  • Praise for Irish hospitality, stadium energy, and the anthem performance.

7. No Dumb Questions, Fan Mail & Fun (66:02–72:34)

• Jersey Etiquette at International Games:
  Jason wore an Ireland rugby jersey to an NFL game—"Be a 'wrong game dickhead,' just own it." (66:34)
• Listener Q: Human Body Redesign
  Travis would give humans monkey-like, grasping feet.
  Jason would remove consequences for unhealthy eating or give humans a dog’s sense of smell.
• Stamp of the Week:
  • Alabama’s 6’7”, 366-lb lineman Kaden Proctor gets a bubble-screen; fan wedding does “tush push” at the reception (70:12).
• Swear Jar for Charity:
  Jason and Travis brainstorm how to channel their legendary cussing toward a charitable “New Heights” reading drive, etiquette school, or donated dictionaries.
  • "It's fucking over for us. You kids—save yourselves and learn other words." — Travis (71:52)

Notable Quotes

• Jason on balancing ego and team:
  "If you're a beast and you're a competitor, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. That is the mentality you go out there with." (37:31)
• Travis on escapes in life and football:
  "It’s an escape from reality and... Sundays, man—sometimes it’s just something you need to get your mind off of the reality of things, man." (14:52)
• On NFL unpredictability:
  "That's the beauty of the NFL, man. Anybody can go down and anybody can find a way, man. You get schemed up in a heartbeat in this goddamn league." — Travis (49:25)

Memorable Moments

• Travis’ revelation that he just isn’t into celebrating birthdays—and their astrological deep-dive and numerology detour (05:09).
• Jason’s hilarious terror on a 140-ft fire engine bucket lift in Dublin (59:24).
• The brothers’ passionate, uncensored takes on NFL ties and press-conference clichés.
• Cam Ward’s “if we’re keeping it a buck, we’re ass” quote, played live and celebrated by both hosts.
• Swear-jar musings: “You kids—save yourselves and learn other words. It’s fucking over for us.” (71:52)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:20 – New programming and celebrity guest updates
• 04:00 – Travis’ birthday talk and astrology
• 07:43 – Chiefs-Ravens deep dive
• 14:52 – Chris Jones' emotional game
• 19:35 – Mahomes, RPO debate, offense outlook
• 28:02 – Eagles-Bucs recap and A.J. Brown drama
• 38:43 – Looking ahead: Eagles vs. Broncos
• 40:18 – Coach fight: Salah vs. Cohen (signal-stealing debate)
• 43:34 – Down-bad quotes of the week
• 46:08 – NFL ties and overtime gripes
• 55:15 – Jason’s Ireland adventure
• 66:02 – Jersey etiquette and “no dumb questions”
• 69:37 – Stamp of the Week & fan highlights
• 71:28 – Swear jar charity brainstorm

Tone & Style:
Classic Kelce: hilarious, honest, irreverent, and insightful—packed with personal stories, inside-football analysis, and unfiltered brotherly banter.