Trey Smith on Chiefs New Faces, Being Pat Mahomes' Enforcer, and His Wild Path to the NFL | Ep 144

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce – Ep 144 Featuring Trey Smith

Episode Title: Trey Smith on Chiefs New Faces, Being Patrick Mahomes' Enforcer, and His Wild Path to the NFL
Release Date: June 25, 2025
Host: Wondery

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Introduction to Episode

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce welcomes listeners to another engaging episode featuring Trey Smith, the starting right guard for the Kansas City Chiefs. This episode delves into Trey’s inspiring journey to the NFL, his role as the Chiefs’ enforcer, and his experiences blocking for superstar quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

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Early Conversations: Mayonnaise Rivalries and Fast Food Faves [03:36 – 05:58]

Before transitioning to the main interview, Jason and Travis engage in their signature banter about mayonnaise, highlighting their playful sibling rivalry.

• Jason Kelsey [05:00]: “But you're acting like this is regular mayo. This is totally different. This is spicy mayo, right?”
• Travis Kelsey [05:18]: “Maybe I'll think about it. Only because it's spicy mayo and it takes away from the eggy thickness of this so-called Hellman's mayo.”

This segment sets a lighthearted tone, showcasing their chemistry and humor before diving into deeper discussions.

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No Dumb Questions: Fast Food Favorites and Struggle Meals [06:14 – 12:35]

In the "No Dumb Questions" segment, the hosts tackle questions about favorite struggle meals and the most expensive foods they've ever consumed.

• Travis Kelsey on Struggle Meals [06:51]: “One of my favorite things to do was in college, after I went through my entire FAFSA check and my scholarship check, would be to call dad to tell him to call Domino's and put in a large pizza for me.”
• Jason Kelsey on Expensive Meals [11:09]: “There's a hundred dollar cheesesteak at this restaurant, Barclay Prime, downtown Philadelphia.”

This portion highlights their relatable college experiences and preferences in dining, adding depth to their personalities.

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Main Interview: Trey Smith’s Journey to the NFL [14:10 – 31:05]

Personal Background and Nickname “Enforcer” [14:10 – 16:21]

Trey Smith shares insights into his offseason activities and the origin of his nickname.

• Jason Kelsey [15:09]: “One of my favorite offensive linemen to watch in the league, the way you play at, the way you finish it is just a joy to watch.”

Travis credits Trey’s impact on team culture, emphasizing his role in making the offense more aggressive.

• Travis Kelsey [16:02]: “That mentality of the offense starts to get a little meaner, a little more on the attack, and it's just contagious.”

Trey Smith’s Draft Story and Health Challenges [39:32 – 48:16]

Trey recounts his tumultuous path to the NFL, including serious health issues that nearly ended his career.

• Trey Smith [43:27]: “That's how close it was. I didn't almost didn't take that trip because I was pretty much done.”
• Jason Kelsey [43:52]: “And now no issues, like, you haven't had anything in the NFL?”

Trey details overcoming blood clots, receiving specialized medical treatment, and ultimately being drafted by the Chiefs as an undrafted free agent.

• Trey Smith [47:34]: “It's so surreal, where in 2019 I'm watching y'all win it, and then in 2021, here I am, walk through the doors.”

Blocking for Patrick Mahomes and Team Dynamics [52:10 – 31:05]

The conversation shifts to Trey’s role in blocking for Patrick Mahomes, highlighting the challenges and rewards of playing alongside one of the league’s elite quarterbacks.

• Trey Smith [54:32]: “For me, it's just understanding that as I go through the season, I'm not gonna play Chris Jones every single week. Like, there's only one Chris Jones.”
• Jason Kelsey [55:00]: “And did you see this kid yet? Josh? He's the closest thing I've seen to like a Trent Williams or like a Jason.”

Trey discusses the competitive environment within the offensive line, mentoring younger players, and adapting blocking techniques to counteract dynamic defensive strategies.

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Supporting Segments: Food, Fun, and Team Camaraderie [48:16 – 83:43]

Throughout the episode, the hosts intersperse discussions about favorite foods, humorous anecdotes about wing-eating contests, and playful wrestling-themed conversations.

• Travis Kelsey on Kindergarten Favorite [22:35]: “I love elephants. I'm like, yeah, that's a match, you know?”
• Jason & Trey on Wing-Eating Contest [70:08 – 73:03]: Trey humorously recounts winning the Kelsey Jam Wing Eating Contest, showcasing the lighthearted side of team camaraderie.

These segments provide a well-rounded view of the hosts and guest, blending serious athletic discussions with entertaining personal stories.

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Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up [83:16 – End]

As the episode concludes, Jason and Travis reflect on Trey’s impressive journey, his contributions to the Chiefs, and his enduring positive attitude.

• Jason Kelsey [83:07]: “I don't know what hits harder, the way he plays football or his personality.”
• Travis Kelsey [83:16]: “That's my guy right there.”

They encourage listeners to stay tuned for future episodes and express gratitude for Trey’s participation.

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Key Takeaways:

1. Resilience and Determination: Trey Smith's battle with health issues showcases his unwavering determination to achieve his NFL dreams.
2. Impact on Team Culture: As the Chiefs’ enforcer, Trey plays a pivotal role in fostering a more aggressive and winning mentality within the offense.
3. Mentorship and Team Dynamics: Trey emphasizes the importance of mentorship, both giving and receiving guidance within the team, especially with newer players.
4. Balancing Seriousness with Humor: The episode effectively balances deep, inspirational stories with lighthearted, humorous moments, embodying the essence of the Kelce brothers' dynamic.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Kelsey [05:00]: “But you're acting like this is regular mayo. This is totally different. This is spicy mayo, right?”
• Trey Smith [43:27]: “That's how close it was. I didn't almost didn't take that trip because I was pretty much done.”
• Trey Smith [54:32]: “For me, it's just understanding that as I go through the season, I'm not gonna play Chris Jones every single week.”
• Jason Kelsey [83:07]: “I don't know what hits harder, the way he plays football or his personality.”

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This episode of New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce offers an inspiring and entertaining glimpse into Trey Smith’s life, his professional journey, and his integral role within the Kansas City Chiefs. Whether you're a football enthusiast or enjoy behind-the-scenes athlete stories, this episode provides valuable insights and heartfelt moments.

Transcript

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

Let's talk about the holy grail of candy. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's right. You know them. You love them. And let's be real, you probably have a stash hidden somewhere right now.

[Jason Kelsey]

Tell me about it. Reese's cracked the code and literally created the perfect combo. We're talking about the Chocolate Shell Creamy Peanut Butter Center.

[Travis Kelsey]

There is something special about unwrapping that orange packaging and sinking your teeth into a Reese's Cup.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. That epic combo has been something that has been a go to snack for many, no matter what they're doing.

[Travis Kelsey]

And here's a pro tip from two Reese's pros here. Try keeping your Reese cups in the fridge. It keeps that chocolatey goodness nice and chilled for you. But be sure to hide it all the way in the back so nobody can take your. You know what I'm saying? Can't have Ed Kelsey sneaking in there at 3am stealing your stash.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right. So why wait? See why Reese's Peanut Butter Cups are our favorite.

[Travis Kelsey]

Buy Reese's Peanut Butter Cups now at a store near you found literally anywhere you can find candy. Who would be your tag team partner if you ever were to join the wwe?

[Trey Smith]

Without fault? Without question. Creed Humphrey.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's your tag team in the NFL. Why wouldn't he be the tag team in wrestling?

[Trey Smith]

Yes, sir.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go.

[Jason Kelsey]

What would your tag team name be?

[Trey Smith]

Ebony and ivory.

[Travis Kelsey]

Put it on a T shirt.

[Trey Smith]

Put it on a T shirt.

[Travis Kelsey]

Put it on a T shirt. Oh, that is funny.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's good.

[Travis Kelsey]

Welcome back to New Heights.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hey, how about that?

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

You love Hellmans.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, man. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the heights all the tigers around the world. Subscribe to YouTube Onery plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s for all fun clips throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we got coming up today, though.

[Jason Kelsey]

We got another great episode for you guys lined up today, starting off with Travis being called out by big Mayo. Oh, my gosh. You've been called out, Trav. That's right. It's official. We've also got some no dumb questions to answer. Plus, from the Kansas City Chiefs, Trey Smith is with us.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Let's start with some of the new news. All right, now, new news is brought to you by Mayonnaise.

[Travis Kelsey]

That is Hellman's mayonnaise.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right, baby. Who doesn't love mayonnaise? Travis doesn't love mayonnaise.

[Travis Kelsey]

That thick old egg batter.

[Jason Kelsey]

And now they're her sponsor.

[Travis Kelsey]

What?

[Jason Kelsey]

Travis, you're not going to believe this. Will Levis has called you out on Instagram.

[Trey Smith]

No.

[Travis Kelsey]

Why'd he call me out? What did I do?

[Jason Kelsey]

Well, Will is a known mayo advocate and your mayo hate. He is gonna challenge you to eat your words.

[Trey Smith]

Why?

[Travis Kelsey]

Why?

[Jason Kelsey]

Literally?

[Travis Kelsey]

I. I don't. I don't. Challenge not accepted. I don't even know the challenge, but it has. If it has anything to do with mayo, I'm out.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, well, this is why, Travis. This is why Will is challenging you to try Hellman's eat your words challenge. They're out here challenging mayo haters to give their flavored mayo a shot.

[Travis Kelsey]

I've never said a single bad thing about mayo, Travis.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you kidding me?

[Travis Kelsey]

This is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Dude, I love it. I love mayo.

[Jason Kelsey]

Listen.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's so good.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right? But you're acting like this is regular mayo. This is totally different. This is spicy mayo, right? There's flavor to it. It's got an amazing smoky kick to it. It's not. It's not. This isn't regular mayonnaise. You like spicy aioli? Think of it like that. It's just spicy aioli.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right. Maybe I'll. I'll think about it. Only because it's spicy mayo and it takes away from the eggy thickness of this so called Hellman's mayo.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hear that, Will? Will you hear that, Will? That sounds like a small win for the 92 percenters on a future episode. That's right. Travis might possibly, with a non zero chance, eat mayonnaise. So stay tuned for if he does or does not accept. But he kind of does half heartedly, you guys know what I'm saying? That does it. For new news brought to you by helmets. Yes, it does.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's terrifying. Before we get to this Trey Smith episode, time for some no dumb questions brought to you by Perplexity AI. Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity AI today.

[Jason Kelsey]

Alrighty. First NOTAM question from @ Hummingbird Cake. Nola. And 1. What was your favorite struggle meal? Struggle meal. Okay. When you were struggle. And what's the fanciest or most expensive thing you've ever eaten? So I. I'm devising from context what struggle meal means. Is this just like the politically correct way to say broke ass meal or something like that? Like, we call it struggle meal. I've never heard.

[Travis Kelsey]

I've never heard struggle meal either, but I understand. What.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know why. I don't like it. I don't like it.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're struggling.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is your favorite? Like, cheap ass meal? Like something like. I don't.

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, I mean, you already know. We could round up. I got a few good ones. The old Wendy's dollar menu. Yeah, no. You know, one of my favorite things to do was in college, after I went through my entire FAFSA check and my, my scholarship check would be to call dad to tell him to call Domino's and put in a large pizza for me.

[Jason Kelsey]

So your struggle was calling your parents?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I mean, it's been. I mean, I've had a beautiful work.

[Jason Kelsey]

It works. I. I guess in college we've, you know, you go to, like, ramen noodles.

[Travis Kelsey]

I couldn't do ramen noodles, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, I love ramen noodles. When I think of food, like, things that are, you know, I just. We don't have any money or we're, like, getting the bare bottom of the pantry. I think of ramen noodles. I think, like, beans and weenies. Big beans and weenies fan. That's one of my favorites.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hated beans and weenies.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hamburger helper. Is that count? Is that kind of like, okay, TV dinners?

[Travis Kelsey]

TV dinner? Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, what are they just like, heat them up type deals?

[Travis Kelsey]

But that's the thing. Like if I'm struggling and I'm broke, I'm. I'm probably going to go to like McDonald's and just get a few like things off of the diet. Like, I don't know if you can even do that in my. I haven't, I haven't. Yeah, the value menu.

[Jason Kelsey]

I haven't like, I don't think they're a dollar anymore. I think they've upped them.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's fucked.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is your favorite value meal item at any fast food chain?

[Travis Kelsey]

Dude, Junior bacon cheeseburger.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, it's good. I feel like I had so many of them in college.

[Travis Kelsey]

Used to be able to get fucking nuggets for a dollar.

[Jason Kelsey]

I know. I think I used to like them so much in college, I just kind of got turned off of jbc. They're not. It's not as good to me anymore.

[Travis Kelsey]

You could always go and get guys pizza, a slice for a dollar.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, dude, if you're really cramped, you go in with a couple buddies for a crave case from White. White Castle.

[Travis Kelsey]

I mean, you're White Castle man, dude. You're a lot of stuff.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a lot of sliders.

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it's like 20.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I feel like Taco Bell didn't really have a great value menu. I think the whole menu is just kind of value, dude.

[Trey Smith]

What?

[Travis Kelsey]

You could order the entire menu twice with like $20. What?

[Jason Kelsey]

I think that's what I think the whole thing. I think the whole thing was just value.

[Travis Kelsey]

You walk into fucking taco bell with $5. You can, you can get fucking lunch, breakfast, lunch and dinner.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, before Subway started like price gouging those five dollar footlongs, that's a pretty damn good deal.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. As you can see, we've lived a life fully of privileged, I guess.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yes.

[Trey Smith]

Cereal.

[Travis Kelsey]

Cereal is another one of them. You get a box for fucking a dollar and some change. You get a ton of meals out of that box.

[Jason Kelsey]

Have you ever ate cereal with water? I've done it. I mean, it's not ideal.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm not upset with just the crunch and like not getting them soggy.

[Jason Kelsey]

I like the sogginess, especially specific types of cereal. Like, it's just better being a little soggy.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're like a soggy oatmeal guy too. I like mine a little bit more dry.

[Jason Kelsey]

You like dry oatmeal?

[Travis Kelsey]

I like drier than soggy.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't like soup oatmeal, but I don't. I like there to be a consistency.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. See, I can't do the soupy stuff. It's hard for me to do soupy stuff.

[Jason Kelsey]

Do you like soup in general? What's your favorite soup?

[Travis Kelsey]

Like chicken noodle.

[Jason Kelsey]

Soup is the original struggle meal. That's like soup kitchen.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

What's this? But I never been to a soup kitchen. I'm not going to lie.

[Travis Kelsey]

Chicken noodle only at Campbell's. Chicken noodle. What? What are we talking about?

[Jason Kelsey]

Really? Any of the Campbell's soups. They qualify, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

I've only enjoyed chicken noodle. I only like that brothy like soup. I don't like. I don't like the fucking, you know, like clam chowder. Yeah. The gloppy fucking thick shit. I'm out on that. The only thick type soup I could do is like. Like a bisque.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. I mean, this is the best we can do for you. I've heard of guys eating like ketchup sandwiches and like mayonnaise sandwiches and sugar sandwich.

[Travis Kelsey]

That was my dog Reggie's go to when he was struggling.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sugar sandwich. Is that what I think it is?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yep.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, it's exactly it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yep.

[Jason Kelsey]

That doesn't sound exciting one bit.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm not gonna lie. I kind of with it. I used to.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean it's essentially what I used to do with a bagel and cinnamon sugar. Like just throw that another one.

[Travis Kelsey]

Bagels. Another one. All right, so let's, let's transition this to most expensive thing you've ever eaten.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's a hundred dollar cheesesteak at this restaurant, Barclay prime, downtown Philadelphia.

[Travis Kelsey]

You pulled the trigger on it.

[Jason Kelsey]

I mean, we've been doing like a lot of o line dinners there and stuff like that where you're kind of just like splurging as a group.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And I have had that. I don't think it's the fanciest or most expensive thing, but there's something about it being a cheesesteak, being that ridiculously priced. That is. And it's very good. But I guess I'll vote that. I don't know. What do you got?

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice. I got nothing. I don't know. I like, I don't necessarily look at the most expensive thing. And yeah, and fancy foods are kind of just like. I love getting fucking big obnoxious steaks. So if I see like a porterhouse that's a 48 ounce, I'm like, yeah, give me that medium. You cut it off the bone a little bit too.

[Jason Kelsey]

Most of the higher priced items are usually like meat that has some like Type of alteration. Like a, hey, you want this dry aged 52 ounce like Tomahawk steak that's from Wagyu and it's like $300. And I'm like, no, I want the regular ribeye that tastes fucking delicious without putting all that fungus on it. I don't need the fucking aging process.

[Travis Kelsey]

Give me the aging.

[Jason Kelsey]

No, give me the regular steak, not Wagyu. And give me, give me the regular. I like a steak that tastes like a steak. I don't like a steak that tastes like it's been marinated in butter and then melts all over the place.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hasn't been marinated in butter.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, whatever. The fancy stuff, nine times out of ten tastes worse just being honest with you. Unless the one caveat to this fancy pasta, you go to a nice Italian restaurant that's like upscale. Those pasta, making that pasta back. My guy Vetri, I don't know how the he puts so much flavor into each one of these little pillows of gnocchi, but it is, it is crazy. It's so good. So if I'm going fancy, I feel like fancy Italian is like worth it. But fancy steakhouse, I've never been in on the fancy steakhouse. I'm just gonna be honest, dude. 1987 Prime. Can't wait for that fancy ass steakhouse.

[Travis Kelsey]

You already know, baby. Opening up soon. We're gonna get that thing up and running. And once it's up and running, it's gonna be a machine serving Kansas City and all the Chief's kingdom and whoever else wants to come and enjoy a meal that me and Patter given to the city.

[Jason Kelsey]

Alrighty, that's it for no dumb questions brought to you by perplexity. Now let's get to our convo with the one, the only, Trey Smith, the enforcer. Our guest today is six round draft pick from the University of Tennessee. He is a two time First Team All SEC selection, 2024 Pro bowl, two time Super bowl champion, winner of the 2024 Kelsey Jam Wing eating contest. Very, sir, very nice. And the starting right guard for the Kansas City Chiefs. That's right, it's the Enforcer, Mr. Trey Smith, baby.

[Trey Smith]

Yes, sir. Appreciate y' all having me, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Trey, how you doing? How's the off season been treating you, man?

[Trey Smith]

It's solid, man. It's been, it's been a good off season. Able to get back down to Tennessee, spend some time with the family, see a lot of friends, travel, bid and did all my training really in Texas, man. Just trying to get right that's awesome.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's awesome.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's get it, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Where did the nickname Enforcer? I know Travis calls you the Enforcer. I'm pretty sure I've heard balding or call you the Enforcer. Is there. Do you know who originated that? Or is that just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just turn on the.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just watching this. Trust me, I've been preaching this for a while.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, I gotta give credit to Trav, honestly. It was the first person I saw that really, like, used it in this podcast, bro. But, you know, Baldy does an amazing job breaking down film all the time, and he would just always talk about my style of play, so I think he just sort of stuffed from there.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, absolutely. I. I've been saying this for years. Travis knows this. I've told you easily. I mean, if not my favorite. One of my favorite offensive linemen to watch in the league, the way you play at, the way you finish it is just a. A joy to watch play the game the right way. So couldn't be more excited to have you on this podcast and talk about that journey and everything. So thanks for coming on, brother.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. Appreciate y' all having me on, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, baby. You already know. And the thing is, as the enforcer, when you get a guy that is the enforcer on a team, I'm telling you, when he first got here, you could see the. The mentality of the offense start to start to get a little meaner, start to get a little bit more on the attack, and it's just. It's. It's contagious, man. And Trey, I don't know what it was like at Tennessee, because I wasn't there, but something tells me that you were really the motor of that team as well, man, because, one. Every. Every time I feel like you go into a new building, man, all of a sudden, that culture changes a little bit to get a little bit more serious and a little bit more about the business, man. And that's a Hats off to your professionalism and just who you are and how you play this game, dog.

[Trey Smith]

Appreciate it, dog. Man, I just try to stuff when I feel it's attack mode, you know, Top of the Strat is attack mode, bro. Like, you see you kill it, bro.

[Jason Kelsey]

Y. Damn.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go.

[Trey Smith]

So, man. Got that early in high school, but yeah, man, it's. I really appreciate the words and both of y' all, man, just understand how much I respect both y' all. I really appreciate it, bro. Hell, yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I feel like it's not even just an enforcer and how hard you hit people and how aggressive and how you finish. There's also like a swagger and like a boister. Like, what does Andy say? What does Andy called Bravado. Is anybody ever called it bravado? Yeah, there's like a. There's that part of it where I remember. I don't know if it was the Chiefs cut these clips up and hopefully Brandon can find it. There's a cut up of you going at it with Jeffrey Simmons. And it is just one of my all time favorite cut ups of any offensive line. Because he's a bad man. That dude is angry. He plays angry. And you matched every bit of it. You could tell it was starting to affect him. Like, it was a joy to watch.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's one of my favorite games, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Trey Smith]

That was cool. It was a physical one.

[Travis Kelsey]

That Tennessee is always a banger.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know, you see it after the runs when you're picking up Pacheco or whoever just got like a big carry. You're pointing to the first down.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

There's a level of excitement and tenacity that rubs off on those around you. And that's. That's the enforcer. It's not. It's. It's that plus the physical nature of how you play the game. You got it.

[Travis Kelsey]

He said that. Oh, the Denver club.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a good one, too.

[Trey Smith]

Here we go.

[Jason Kelsey]

I gotta say this, and I think there's another. First of all, great job. Great job of laying the blitzer, getting flat to put yourself in a good position on the player in open space. If you go downfield right away, you're going to be way out in front. This guy's going to cut you. You go flat and then, man, leaving your feet. I don't even know. I mean, this is like a. You can't even do this on defense anymore. You leave your feet as a defender, that's a. That's a personal foul. You can still do it as a guard.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. One of my favorite plays, bro.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Smith]

Coach Heck did a great job that week prepping us. And Creed and I identified, man, we saw it before it came up. We're just like, hey, it's coming up. Let's get it. I'm like, oh, it's game over. And I saw Justin Simmons sort of playing his feet.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm just thinking, like, coming from top.

[Trey Smith]

Down, why are you. Where are you sitting still? Yeah. He's like trying to only let you go underneath, but like he stood still like he was gonna take it on. So I was like, all right, thank you. But, man, that was fire, bro.

[Travis Kelsey]

I can only imagine as a defender, it's like once you get into striking range, you're just like, oh, I can't go anywhere where.

[Jason Kelsey]

And there's this point as an offensive lineman where you know where the ball's hitting and you know where the defender is, and you know the defender has no choice but to come back to where you're at and you identify. That's not just in that clip. I've seen you. I forget what it might have been. A Chargers game from back. There's another clip where you get out on this. It was. It was either a screen or some type of, like, gadget play. And it's again, you're, like, leaving your feet. In order to do that, you gotta know. You know what I mean? It's like this dude is throwing everything he can to this guy and blowing him up.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, for. For. For what? 320 for 350. What are you weighing in right now?

[Trey Smith]

320.

[Travis Kelsey]

For 300 plus. To be leaving their feet like that and putting all force, man. That is athletic. Son of a gun, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

No doubt.

[Travis Kelsey]

I don't know how much athleticism you can. You can teach in your football camp, but you can teach that me, that mentality, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Absolutely.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're hosting your second annual Trey Smith Football camp later this month. How. How excited are you for it?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it's going to be my second football camp. My hometown, Jackson, Tennessee. And, man, just fired up for it, bro. Like, I think giving back to Jackson, the community that poured so much into me, like, it was. It was about time to do something for him that was big for the city. So nice our first year, we learned a lot with the young kids. You know, it's hard to manage young kids. We had, like, yeah, come on, run around. So we want to make sure ages, like second grade and up, they just have a good fun time, have the love of the game. Then for our middle school and high school camp, we'll turn it up a notch. We're trying to get them ready for the next season, so. Really looking forward to it, bro. Get it back on.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is funny when you go to one of these camps, and for us, we are so used to going about the position a certain way in the game a certain way. And you try, like, teaching that to, like, a young kid who's, like, six years old, and they're like, I just want to run over these bags and put your face through his face. You're like, no, get in your stance like this and use your hands like this. And you're like, okay, this is all pointless. Yeah, just run over these bags. And then.

[Travis Kelsey]

The last cab I did. I thought it was a brilliant idea to try and have a water balloon fight at the end of the camp.

[Jason Kelsey]

Sounds great.

[Travis Kelsey]

Until you realize that it's not like two teams fighting against each other. We just had a bunch of coolers filled with water balloons.

[Jason Kelsey]

Just a battle royale.

[Travis Kelsey]

And everyone picked up a water balloon and then looked directly towards me and just started. So I had over like 100 to 200 kids, just. And eventually I just gave in and just got smoked by everyone.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's some good off season conditioning.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You know, instead of running striders, just give a bunch of kids water balloons and try and avoid them.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, my buddy last year, he set me up. He had all the kids come attacking me, so I had like 200. I was just trying to fall so I don't crush a little Timmy's leg.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right. Just don't fall on one of these kids because 320. Wink, wink. That's a lot coming down, you know, it's what is. So this isn't just offensive lineman. This is all across, like just football in general. You have multiple coaches there helping out with it. What's. And it's all ages.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it'll be all ages across the board, pretty much from second grade all the way up to senior high school. And we'll have coaches varying from a lot of former volunteer guys, some guys I went to high school with, even NFL players as well. Coaches that I've just sort of found along my way in my journey too. So have a large support and crew and coaching staff that's coming out. Help us out. So. It'll be awesome, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Heck yeah, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Did you attend any football camps growing up?

[Trey Smith]

Oh, dude, I went to a ton. A ton of them, man. That was like. That was a big part of me becoming a good player. I feel like. Like I would always go. I hate to say it, but, like, I would always go to University, Alabama's football camp with Nick Saban, big Bama fan growing up. So, like dad and I, we would drive down to Tuscaloosa and do the camp every year to mention my. My high school coaches. Like, hey, you guys realize there's more schools than just Alabama, right? So start going Ole Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas, across the country, bro. So that was huge. My debauch, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Heck yeah. Was it always Bama vs Tennessee? Was it all in Terms of going to. Going to college or. Or how the recruiting process. How did you end up back at Tennessee if. If Bamu was always a dream?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. So I did not.

[Travis Kelsey]

Because you were the number one recruit coming out of high school, right?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, yeah. Five star, all that. So.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Smith]

I got my first offer from Ole Miss, I think when I was 14, from euphrees and that just sort of like domino effect. I got offers from across the country, but for me, I always grew up a Bama fan because my kindergarten teacher at the time, her son was an equipment manager for them. So I went to the locker room, game day. Like, first time I've been to SEC football game or a college football game.

[Travis Kelsey]

State of the art facilities. You're just like.

[Trey Smith]

I was like, whoa, Favorite color is red. I love elephants. I'm like, yeah, that's a match, you know?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Smith]

So, yeah, you know, I'm sitting there like, bro, Bama become one of the top schools they say was. Won all these championships and stuff. Then obviously I started getting recruited and I started looking around a little bit, and ultimately, bro, it ended up being between Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Tennessee. And then the night of my decision, it was really Ohio State and Tennessee. And then I flipped to Tennessee in the middle of the night. So I was like, you know what? Tennessee makes more sense long term. It's my home. I want to live there one day. I think it was the best decision I ever made in my life. Going to Tennessee.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'll tell you what, man. Going back to. Going back to Tennessee. After we got smoked when I was in college playing Tennessee, Tyler Bray and Cornell Patterson got after us a little bit.

[Trey Smith]

See? Flash feet.

[Travis Kelsey]

But going back when Butch Jones was there and. And just being around because Eric Barry had a football camp up there, and I was up there trying to help him out and at least, you know, show my face. But obviously got some family around the Knoxville area. It was so wild to see that town. The entire city is orange.

[Trey Smith]

Yes, sir.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like, every. Like, everything in sight is orange. And it. It kind of gives a little bit of Ohio State, but Ohio State's surrounded by, like, Columbus and an actual big city. No, Knoxville is. Everything is balls all over the place. And I was just so. I was like, man, I. I just. I appreciated it from a completely different perspective. Going back once I was already through college and everything. That had to be a fucking hell of a goddamn time when you were there, bro.

[Trey Smith]

Unbelievable. I wish we were better at football. We had some seasons that weren't so great. But like, bro, I'm talking about the love you feel on campus from like day one is unbelievable. You know, there's such things as fandom. There's a lifestyle people in Knoxville, Tennessee, it's a volunteer lifestyle, man. They really bleed orange. I can go back on campus. Like I told my family, like we go back to football games usually on the bye week, right?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Trey Smith]

I started getting swarmed by people and it got so bad that like they gave me a golf carts right around on game day. But like the love, I mean, the last time I played a Stafford, Tennessee were going on over half a decade ago and people still know my name. I might go in a restaurant, people talk to you. It just shows how great all nation is. And if you're a great player, you treat the city right, man, they'll show love continuously, bro. So like I said, man, there's a difference between fandom and our lifestyle, man. They live that life down there in Tennessee.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hell yeah, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. What did you carry a sledgehammer around campus for? What was the signature behind that? What was that deal?

[Trey Smith]

Yo, that's crazy. So it was my freshman year. Yeah, we played Georgia Tech season opener in Atlanta, I guess the Mercedes Benz. I was like the second football game I ever played there. And I had a block. It was like a trap place. So basically one of our Sutter Place tribe. And I wallowed in the end. And then you went extra on top of it. So coach Jones, I guess he had the sledgehammer, like hit it could be a tackle hit, whatever it is of like the week. And I got it my first game at Tennessee and I don't know why, maybe I'm watching a movie or something. But here I am carrying this sledgehammer like on my back as a freshman, bro, like, first meeting class. I just got a hammer in the classroom. So it was crazy.

[Jason Kelsey]

That was one of the cooler things Butch Jones did with the sledgehammer. Paying homage to the blockers. That's amazing. That's a great way to represent it. Look at that. Check him out. That's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's iconic. Going to go into class. You see all that? You college athletes going to class.

[Jason Kelsey]

But he's there for work. He's got his lunch pail and his sledgehammer with him. He's ready to go. All right, going into your fifth season with the Chiefs. All right, we got 20, 25 Chiefs coming up.

[Trey Smith]

Yes, sir. Come on.

[Jason Kelsey]

Anything different going into this season for you guys up front or for a team? As a team?

[Trey Smith]

I Would say up front, you know, just have a couple of new pieces coming in and, you know, some guys are definitely excited about, excited to work with and you know, I think our mission and try to agree with this man, like, it's going to stay the same, man. We want another Lombardi won another trophy, man. We know we came up a little bit short last year, man. We're just motivated, you know what I'm saying? That feeling we have at least I know it's been driving me, but I want to get back there. I want to win it again, man. Yeah, we'll be absolutely fine, but a couple new faces to bring in the fold for offensive line. But Coach Heck and coach Mate, they do a great job making sure we're well coached, up and prepared. So like I said, I'm just looking forward to it, man. Like, hey, set the ball down. Let's play.

[Travis Kelsey]

Let's go.

[Trey Smith]

Let's play, man. Let's go.

[Travis Kelsey]

You fire me up right now, man.

[Trey Smith]

Let's get it.

[Travis Kelsey]

I. I do got to say this though. You mentioned a few new faces, man. Our guy. Our guy. Big toony, man. Joe. Joe isn't. He's not in the building anymore. But you got to show some love, man.

[Trey Smith]

Got to.

[Travis Kelsey]

He was there when you came in. Yeah, right. Like, he was in Casey when you came in. I can't. I couldn't remember when exactly is that his first year?

[Trey Smith]

Because it was when Orlando came in two at the same time. So it was like all four of us.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, that's. That's crazy. As a, as. As a young, like, offensive lineman in the league and your mentality and a guy like that who has been proven. Won Super Bowls and, and you know, been. Been a Pro Bowler. Tony, what was he in terms of your development and how he helped you out early on in your career?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I always start this. So I talk about Joe from here on out, but I think Joe's gonna be a future hall of Famer.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Trey Smith]

And just for me, man, as a young cat stepping into the league, you know, wide eyed, freaked out, like in terms of reassurance and your abilities, you know, helping you out, picking Joe's brain for different things. Like, Joe and I play the game way differently. Like, he's surgical. He's not the biggest guy, but he knows how to manipulate people's body. Like, he's, he's nice with bro, like on a different level. I didn't know it's possible. Like, and for me, man, just having to lean on him, especially when I was younger hey, Joe, what would you do in this situation? How would you attack this? Like, how would you sort of set this block up? And having that resource there was invaluable. And, you know, just having a genuine friend, too, you know, a guy you can depend on, a brother, like. Like, man, that's. It's priceless, bro. So for me, I have a ton of gratitude being able to work with Joe. Having Joe, you know, some guys like me and Creed, you know, being able to work at least to be as an interior unit as well. Like, I mean, I was special, bro. Like, it's heartbreaking, you know, but he's got a ball in Chicago. He knows I love him. Wishing nothing but success. But, man, having him around at the mentoring spot to just help me, help teach me the game and teach me the nuances, man, that was incredible.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, look, that interior 3 was my favorite to watch over the last four years, man. You. Between you, Creed, and Joe, and all three of you being different players and, like, having similarities, but then also in. Andy's a great coach, and he finds ways to utilize everything and maximize it. I love watching the way you guys work inside. It was heroic with Joe. Tried to do this year by sliding out to tackle. And, I mean, I don't know many guards that can even give that a go in the NFL. Like, that is a completely different position. So hats off to him. Very unselfish move to do that for the team. But with him gone, you're sliding in last year's rookie, Sue Matias. Is that. How am I saying that? Right?

[Trey Smith]

Kingsley.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, Kingsley.

[Jason Kelsey]

Kingsley sliding in to guard. And then who do we got to tackle now?

[Trey Smith]

My caliendo.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is he caliendo still there? Perfect.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yep.

[Jason Kelsey]

So there'll be some open competition, some back and forth a little bit for figuring out who's going in there with you guys.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, there definitely will be. And I mean, hell, man, you know, we all been part of the league. Like, it's competition between us all, so we all got to go always. You know, you're right.

[Jason Kelsey]

100.

[Trey Smith]

I know both of them will. Will work their tails off, and, you know, the best man's gonna win. Like, I have to earn my job against them as well, but, you know, I'm excited about both of them. I love Mike, man. Mike's a great dude. Mike is extremely intelligent as well and a great ball player. And then Kingsley, just a young cat, you know, he still got those young legs, a healthy body.

[Travis Kelsey]

Sure, man.

[Trey Smith]

You know, his ability is incredible in some of the things that he can do on the field as well. So like I said, the movie pieces are offline. Great. We're going to be in a good position, though, Matt.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, the one I'm looking forward to. I just got to be honest, that left tackle position was something that was somewhat of a revolving door all season long for you last year. Have you seen this, this kid yet? Josh? Like, I, I. Josh, to me, watching the tape in college, it was absurd. Like, the athletic ability and size. Trav knows because I've been watching this dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. I've been preaching my eyes on him, know. I. I've seen it. I've seen it. He was, he was playing defensive end as a. As just like a scout team defensive end. And he was just playing this gap, just being. But he was being a pro. He was being locked in and being a pro, and I felt that man's hands grabbed me and I was like, all right, all right. We're just. I got to come with it. Even when, Even when he's just giving the looks, I got to make sure I'm got my feet planted, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I've watched a lot of these linemen coming out the last few years. This kid, I mean, he is the closest thing I've seen to like a Trent Williams or like a Jason, like that next level, like strength and athleticism.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

The only reason he fell to you guys is because of that quad. Is it quad tender patella, tendon, Patella injury. Yeah. What's he look like so far?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, I haven't seen him in action, but I mean, I just heard that he is so strong. Like, unbelievably strong is one thing. So, like, Trav, you saying about his hands, like, like, that's perfectly spot on what I keep hearing, but. Oh, yeah, obviously, like, the talent is there, man. I've seen some of his film as well and, you know, obviously got a chance to win a natty last year shout out to him, but, you know, I think he's gonna be a great asset to the team, and I'm looking forward to it, bro.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, baby. Get him in there. Get him nice and ingrained in the culture we got over there, man. Have some fun while we. While we go and whip some ass.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, you know, we'll get them right.

[Jason Kelsey]

Would you rather play in Tampa Bay, Miami Heat early season, or like Green Bay in the middle of the playoffs? Like, would you rather play in cold weather or hot weather?

[Trey Smith]

I guess I'll play a frigid temperatures, negative degree weather. I love it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Once it gets below 50.

[Jason Kelsey]

What was that one game in Casey where Miami. Was that the one where you. I was like watching the field and it was like frozen.

[Travis Kelsey]

Coach Reed had icicles coming from his mustache. Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Smith]

It was like fourth coldest game in NFL history, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yes. How did you feel you'd rather play in that than Miami? 95.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. All day long. All day long. Because. Because one in the heat and humidity, like you're gonna tire out a little bit easier, man. Everything is a little bit tougher. It's a different mental space. Right. We're in the cold. As a big guy, like I said, I'm always sweating, bro.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Always.

[Jason Kelsey]

It's already there.

[Trey Smith]

Like, I'll be nice and cool. I can recover faster. You know, the winter coat, Jason, you know, you get a little bit heavier at the the year, so.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, yeah, baby.

[Trey Smith]

I'm good, man. I'm solid.

[Jason Kelsey]

How did those trap blocks feel though, when it's negative four? You.

[Trey Smith]

Oh, you felt. Oh, you felt it woke you up now. But like, the thing about it that's great is like the divas alignment don't necessarily want to rush past year as well too.

[Jason Kelsey]

For sure.

[Trey Smith]

Because you're talking about a team that came from Miami. They just left 80 degree weather. Now it's negative 11 degrees. You're like, what the hell's going on? Where are we? Where do they drop us off at? You know, so it makes our job easier.

[Travis Kelsey]

It is a little different, you know, being in 15 to 20 degree weather for a couple weeks. For a couple. For like a month. Staying in between that, that 20 to 40 degree weather in Kansas City when it's in the winter and then it dropping down.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

I feel like the initial, the first day in it is always the coldest. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if you're kind of acclimated to some of the cold, like that first day it drops below 50 in Kansas City, I'm like, oh, even I'm like, God damn, it's kind of cold outside. You know what I mean? But then once I get used to it, I'm outside in shorts and a T shirt coming from. Coming from Miami. And it being 75 to playing in negative 5 degrees is hell.

[Jason Kelsey]

I would probably.

[Trey Smith]

What.

[Travis Kelsey]

Is this?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, that's tough, bro. That's tough. What is that?

[Travis Kelsey]

Was that the coldest game you ever.

[Trey Smith]

Played in by far? Because like the coldest weather I would ever play out of Tennessee would be like Kentucky or Missouri. So that was the coldest. It gotten to probably be around like December, maybe. Late November.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, what's your grilling lineup this summer, Jason? What are you going with?

[Jason Kelsey]

Hamburgers? Cheeseburgers.

[Travis Kelsey]

You're burger guy. You look like burger.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

Let's get into some draft stories, man. Drafted by the Chiefs six overall. I mean, six rounds. Definitely. Definitely not six overall, but definitely worthy of six overall. Can you talk to everybody on the reasons why you kind of slid in the draft and what draft day was like for you?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. So those of y' all don't know, right after my freshman year, entering my sophomore season, not offseason, we had a coaching change. Entire coaching staff gets fired. He walks in, Jeremy Pruitt from University of Alabama, and that whole off season, they're just trying to break us. And as you guys know, if you get a new coaching staff to try to weed out the bad guys, figure out what the team's going to be built around. So that identified culture, man. Yeah, yeah, we're going to set the culture up around.

[Jason Kelsey]

Around.

[Trey Smith]

They looked at me. I had a lot of success in my first year as a freshman. They're like, all right, we can build around this young player. So they just started pushing us every single day during mad drills. And I was eating it, bro, like it was nothing to me. I'm laughing at them talking back to look like it's all y' all died in, like, one week, man. In condition or do I have gasses and I passed out? And I never passed out. I couldn't breathe well. I lost 13 pounds in a day. I remember talking to our team doctor, like, hey, you guys got to run more tests on me. Like, I feel terrible. And he's like, we're gonna do a blood draw. Just go ahead and go to class. I remember leaving my dorm room, having to walk, like, 400 yards. To the library to write a paper and having to stop, like, seven times, just catch my breath. And as soon as I got out, doctors calling me, frantic, like, hey, Trey, where you at? Where you at? I'm like, I just got finished my paper. Doc is every day okay. He's like, don't worry about it. We're sending someone over the car that can scoop you up. They rush me to the hospital and figure out that I have blood clots in both sides of my lungs. So that was sort of one of those moments where it's like, man, can I still play football? Like, what does this mean? And pretty much working with the doctors, like, for five months, you're ready. Going blood thinners. I think it's. Blood thinners is if you take a shot to the head or if you get cut, you run the risk of internal bleeding or just bleeding out in general. So it's really dangerous for a contact sport, which was tough. What they end up doing is blood thinners for about five to six months. Was able to play in my sophomore year. Got about the halfway point of my season. Had the same sort of things going. Can't breathe well, coughing mucus, etc. And they rushed into the hospital again just to be safe. They're like, hey, you have blood clots again. And at that point, my career was completely over in my mind. Like, the doctors told me, if you have blood clots two times, you'll never play football again. It's not safe. Like, we won't allow it. And, you know, through the grace of God. I had some people in my corner, University of Tennessee, that just flew me across the country. And we went to the Cleveland Clinic, where met with some doctors. I looked at my scans, looked at all my tests. It was just like, you don't have blood clots again, man. It looks like you have residual scar tissue in your lungs from the first case. So that was like a breakthrough, right? Yeah. So that's how close it was. Like, I didn't. I almost didn't take that trip because I was pretty much done. I was like, I'll get the coaching player engagement. But when I got that news, it sort of opened everything up to where I end up. Going to a blood clotting specialist in North Carolina, where he created a health plan that had never done this work, football before, where I took blood thinner every single day of the week, except for Friday morning, and I would just wake up and play on Saturdays. So that means no practice, no contact, no training camp. I would literally just be vibing out doing cardio, watching film as much as I can. We just go playing on Saturdays, so it was a crazy experience. But, you know, my junior year, was able to play the entire season. Decided to stay at Tennessee because I made a promise to my deceased mom, Rosetta Smith, that I would get my degree and I play in the NFL one day. So I kept my promise to mom.

[Travis Kelsey]

Nice.

[Trey Smith]

My senior season and finished it out. And then the draft is here. I'm like, hell yeah, let's get paid, you know?

[Travis Kelsey]

Man, what a roller coaster that had to be, bro.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yo, that is wild. So was there. Is there like a condition that causes your blood to clot in certain ways or is this just like a unfortunate, like, unlucky one off thing?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. So you got either provoked or unprovoked blood clots? Mine was unprovoked. They tried looking all parts of my body to figure out, like, where it's originating. A lot of times you have a surgery, you get hit a certain way, etc, like, yeah, nothing happened to me that would have cost it. And genetic testing didn't show up anything definitively as well.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wow, man.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Because I remember hearing about this when you were coming out, like, even in the Eagles building. I remember guys talking about, Leia. He's got this thing with like. Like, I thought it was your heart. I didn't know it was blood clots. I knew there was something going on, but I remember that was something that all the teams were thinking about, how if you didn't have that, where do you think you would have been drafted?

[Travis Kelsey]

Six overall.

[Trey Smith]

I would think, like, I'd like to think first round, but second round, the third, probably worst case scenario. Sorry, that is wild.

[Jason Kelsey]

And now no issues, like, you haven't had anything in the NFL?

[Trey Smith]

Nothing at all, brother, you know?

[Jason Kelsey]

Gosh, that is amazing. Yeah, that is a as outstanding.

[Travis Kelsey]

Back to draft day, though. When did. So still you went back, had had your junior year at Tennessee. Where were you on draft day? And. And who was it that gave you the call?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. So I was in Jackson and I talked to my agents and they're pretty much saying, you know, we don't think you'll be a first round with the medical history, but you're gonna go second round and like third rounds, like, worst case scenario, but you'll get drafted. So day one, pretty good amount of families there. I'm like, I appreciate y' all. I'm playing the game tonight. Like, I'm not drafted. So, yeah, I'm playing. What's the Rocket League? The Car.

[Jason Kelsey]

That game is.

[Trey Smith]

Boys.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't want to sidestep it, but this is what I love about Rocket League. It's only like four buttons. I can't do all these games with all these buttons. Now just give me, like, two buttons to screw around and try and score. Go. All right, go ahead. Sorry.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. No, you're right. So I want Roc with the homies, man. We're chilling, just doing our thing. And pretty much first round goal was. All right, cool. Day two, I'm sitting in the bedroom, like, all right, this is the day I'm about to get drafted. And, you know, I was like, I'll pay attention to it. And this year was Covid year, so they had like a little. If you're considered like a top guy, they sent you a whole camera equipment and, like, thing for your house. So I had mine set up in my living room. I'm sitting on the couch with my family and pick after pick after pick after pick after pick. Second round goes, third round. It's like, okay, I'm gonna go back to the Rocket League.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I'm just gonna.

[Trey Smith]

I'm gonna play the game. I'm just gonna take my mind off of it, you know, that third round came and it went. And I remember just being like, damn, like, you know, what happened? You know, and being a little upset and talking to my dad, and he just sort of reassures me and calls me down a little bit. So day three goes. I wake up a little bit late. No. No phone call or anything. I get a call from a former head coach that I knew from recruiting, and he's pretty much saying, hey, I can't believe you're here, man. I remember you in high school. You were number one, blah, blah. He's like, hey, we're going to take you in this next draft pick. It's like in the fifth round. So I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna watch this one. I'm about to get picked, and he picks somebody else. And he calls me right back, like a minute after. It's just like, hey, sorry I had to do this political blah, blah. Look, what we're gonna do is we're gonna fly you in as undrafted free agent. We'll get a sign, we'll get you signed, we'll get all this stuff taken care of you and pots, like, don't worry about it. And so I'm not. I'm not really. I'm not pissed. I'm just like, hey, man, like, it didn't go the way I thought. Like, I saved another year for this. And, you know, all the stuff I went through, Like, I thought I was gonna get drafted, but, yeah, I got an opportunity. I just wanted an opportunity, man. You just give me a shot, man. Give me. Give me a foot in the door, basically. So it was funny enough, like, five minutes later, I learned it was on the game again. So Rocket League is, like, the theme of the story. I'm back on Rocket League.

[Jason Kelsey]

We should really be thanking all the coaches. Cause you got to play more Rocket League. Like, if you've been drafted in the first round, you're missing out two days playing Rocket League, right?

[Trey Smith]

So basically, five minutes later, I get a call. The ID says Kansas City. I feel like, you know, it's a doctor on the phone. I believe it was Dr. Mike Monoclo. I believe it was. And he had. He had interviewed me prior about the medical info. And Doc is on the phone just like, hey, man, I told you, I call you, like, all happy. I was like, the hell do you want? In my mind.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, yeah. Like, what's this about?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I'm like, another. So I just answered. It's like, yo, what up? He's just like, oh, well, we're gonna make you the newest member of the Kansas City Chiefs. And I was just like, what's this dude talking about? And so then when Mr. Hunt answered the phone, it's like, hey, Trey, this is Clark Hunt. How are you doing? I'm like, oh, this is real. I was like, oh, let me sign.

[Travis Kelsey]

Up you guys with the team, Doc.

[Trey Smith]

I can't wait to be down there. And then, you know, Brett Beach, Coach Reed, Andy Heck, you know, talk to all of them. And then it was just like, whoa, whoa. I just got drafted, man. And my sister was in the living room. She's only one left in the house. So I'm running, hugging her in the living room. We're both freaking out together, like, crying. And then I called my dad. I'm like, dad, you won't believe this. Kansas City just drafted me. He's like, son, I love you. I'm so proud of you. And I'll be home in 10 minutes. I'm bringing chicken tenders for lunch.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, that's a hell of a celebration.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man. So my drive story was a perfect profession, but I love it, man. Like, I have so much gratitude the way it went down, man. To help moment who I am today.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Shout out to Ashley for being in the room still there with. I was about to say, a lot of people don't know this Ashley welcomed me to the, to broadcasting in the NFL. I met, I met your sis out there. She was awesome at the broadcast boot camp. Yeah, I mean, just eat some chicken tenders, go back to playing Rocket League, right? You just got drafted in the NFL.

[Travis Kelsey]

I remember because we had, that was, I mean, you look back on it, that was a great draft for us. I mean, obviously we got Big Creed, who you learned to, you know, create the beast with in the interior with and everything, but that was a hell of a draft. And I remember everyone kept mentioning, hey, man, we gotta steal, we gotta steal. They got the guy we. I don't know how he dropped the six. I don't know how he dropped, but we got him. And everyone's saying he's, I mean, the docs are giving him the thumbs up. Everybody said, and, bro, when you walked in the building and I saw how big of a human being you are, bro, I was like, what this?

[Jason Kelsey]

Good job?

[D]

No way.

[Travis Kelsey]

Little did I know how, how much you would grow as a, as a player your first year and just be, be the enforcer that you are. But, man, I, I, when I heard everybody talking about, we gotta steal, we gotta steal. And Veech was over here, like, I think, I think we got a guy. I think we got, he was just over there getting, being bread, having a blast, talking about. Yeah, exactly. Everybody worked. Our plan worked. We found a way to get you in the building, man, that was fun.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, no, I was fired up, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

What was your first impression of big Andy Reid, man?

[Trey Smith]

Oh, dude, it was. So I played the mad. It was a Madden 06 where, like, he's in the front and. Yeah, it's like that one as a kid. That was the very first Madden game I ever had.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wow.

[Trey Smith]

First football game ever.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's crazy.

[Trey Smith]

Huge. Like, into the game, super bowl situation, whatever it is, and, like, coach on the sideline, like, pissed off, like, reading this call sheet, like, so that was my first taste of Andrew in my life, so getting to the Chiefs. And I remember, you know, it's Covid once again. So everything is sort of different setup. We were in the indoor facility, and he was on, I guess, Zoom or Microsoft Teams, whatever we use. And he's just breaking down a play and was like, damn, that's Andy Reid, bro.

[Travis Kelsey]

Really is.

[Trey Smith]

And, like, talking to him, you know, Coach Reed has, like, a way of making you comfortable, like, messing with you, bro. It was dope, dude. Like, I was sitting there in disbelief. Really? Like, man, I'm really, I'm here because, like, part of it is, I watched you guys win a Super bowl in Miami. I was with Dustin Colquitt and his buddies in Miami.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

You were in Miami?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, through the University of Tennessee. They sent me down there, so I worked. The event was, like, ushering people around. Coco and his buddies, like, found me. They're like, ah, come with us. I watched again. So for me, it was surreal, where it's like, like, what, 2019, I'm watching y' all win it, and then in 2021, here I am, walk through the doors. I remember being at that game saying, man, how cool would it be to go play for them one day? Oh, yeah, that's like, the funny thing, how God worked, like, here I am.

[Travis Kelsey]

So awesome, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Absolutely.

[Travis Kelsey]

That is awesome, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

What were your first impressions of travel like? Oh, everybody remembers the first time they meet Trav. That's a. That's a. That's a hard one to forget. Usually.

[Trey Smith]

Just crazy energy, bro. I was like, oh, he's off. I love this guy. Just saying stuff, but, like, bro, I was like, the one thing that I love. It was, like, early. It might have been against the Browns, bro. Like, it might be my first game. You scored a touchdown. I, like, tackled you, might slap in your helmet in the end zone because you're just psycho, bro.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, I remember that.

[Travis Kelsey]

Going fucking nuts.

[Trey Smith]

You know what I mean? I love it. So. So anytime Trav's getting the guys going, I'm just saying, I'm feeling it, bro. Let's get this thing rolling. So, yeah, for me, my dog Trav, I mean, I think the one thing that I can speak about, especially as like a six round traffic young guy, was just how kind you were, bro. And you don't have to be that way, and how you really care for people. You're not afraid to give out your heart, right? So I think that's the part that stood out to me where it's like, man, that you look at your career trajectory you're on and who you are as a human being, but, like, you still make the time for people. You still care for people. To me, that. That's response to the person. And that to me, that was really the biggest thing. Like, man, you never. You never mistreated me or just sort of wrote me off or anything. It was always just like. I know. For years, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

I appreciate it, dog. It means the most coming from me, brother. Yeah, the best yet to come, though, baby. Let's go. You know what?

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, let's. Let's talk Patty Mahomes. Let's go into that.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, bro.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, let's talk some Patty Mahomes, man. What is it like blocking for old Patrick Levon Mahomes ii?

[Trey Smith]

Man, it was a tough transition out of college, boy. Like, I wasn't used to somewhat extending the plays like that, making somehow nothing. Like, for me, I struggled so much with just sustaining the block, man. Full check. You said get on me every day about not letting the egg timer in your head go off. Like, he's. He's one of the best extended plays ever. Do it. Like, you have to just drive and drive. So for me, man, it was difficult at the beginning, but then, like, I think the best part about it is just watching his greatness. And it's not like the big moments, per se. It's like little stuff he does in practice, like, how the hell he throw that ball? How do you throw that in a preseason? What play was it where he did around the behind?

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trey Smith]

Like, that's the greatness where it's like.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who the hell is going to be.

[Trey Smith]

Able to do this other than him?

[Travis Kelsey]

He made me look so good on that play, knowing damn well that I was the one that up the play to where he had to do something spectacular to make it look good and. Yeah, no, you already know. Yeah, that's one of a kind in that regard, man. It's. Do you just. Do you just. In your mind, you have this, like. I don't know. I. I feel like I have like a time, like a. Like a timing mechanism of, like, the first play. Like, all right, the ball should be out by now. It's almost like, all right, there's. There could be two forms of this play. So it's like the initial play, and then. All right, I gotta. As soon as those, like, three to four seconds are up now I need to refocus re gear. Do something else.

[Trey Smith]

Do it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like. Do you have the, like, secondary, like, play, like, the. The possibilities of it? Is it always in your mind during, like, pass plays?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I definitely think so. It depends. A lot of times I play action games especially, so, like a gap scheme type pass or anything like that. Like, for me, it's just like, I know I'm gonna have a double team. I'm looking to help.

[Jason Kelsey]

Right.

[Trey Smith]

A lot of times with Patman, he's just gonna keep extending and extending and extending, and a lot of times, if you really just hold on, bro, he's gonna make something huge happen. So for me, I agree what you're saying. Where it's like, on Paper. It might be like it's be doom. Boom. But sometimes might be, yeah, that's the greatness. That's my magic stuff. Like, you just got to adjust with it, bro. You just got to adjust.

[Jason Kelsey]

And Pat's even more like. There's all sorts of quarterbacks that are mobile that will extend plays. Pat does it up the middle more than any quarterback I've ever seen. Like, most quarterbacks will either go if they're right handed to the right. If they're left handed, they'll have a tendency to go to the left. Pat will see like a split front, like a two, three technique front. And if it's third and medium, he almost is like predetermined in his head that he's going to take off and go get the first down right up the gut. I've seen him do it multiple times.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Are you at the point now where you kind of anticipate stuff like that or is it still, like, who knows what's about to happen?

[Trey Smith]

I think I'm still at that point sometimes where it's hard to feel it. I think like during the season, especially when he gets to this tendency box a little bit. Like, I'm like, okay, I know last week he did this way. I got a hold a little bit stronger to the inside because, like, I know he's going to be right here. If so, and so happens, you know, if he gets flushed a certain way based on their rush games too, sometimes we know like they're trying to flush in a certain direction. So I gotta be a little bit firmer for sure. I would say it's just adapting to him, but I think the main thing is always knowing that, like, Patch is going to do something crazy back there. You know what I mean? Like, you just got to figure it out on the fly, bro. But I will say, last year I really tried adjusting a little bit more, get a little bit stronger inside.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's cool.

[Jason Kelsey]

And I feel like sometimes it's even just like a feel like you don't know why you let go at a specific time.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

As an offensive lineman, my biggest concern is getting a holding call. You're blocking a dude, you got a great block on him, and all of a sudden the quarterback scoots out. He reaches though, grab him and you're. You think you're doing your job great and all of a sudden there's a yellow flag by your feet.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. Or smell out Edward.

[Jason Kelsey]

But then you play with guys like that for a while and then you like almost like feel the D Lineman doing that and you like, learn to kind of just like, let go. Not that it works every time like that, but it's. There's a feel for it, for sure. I don't know.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it's an art, bro. It's tough. Like you said there. There is like a little feel to that, a little nuance to it where you just, you know, it's not.

[Travis Kelsey]

Has Pat ever made a play to where you got so excited you wanted to like, just like, trap block and just like, just got you so excited? Or like, you wanted to, like. You remember the replacements, how the. How like the linebacker would always do just, like, too much. He would always, like, want to headbutt the. Out of somebody. Has that ever made you, like, go into that excitement and just like, ye.

[Trey Smith]

I got a couple plays in my. One of them, bro, was when we played Tampa Bay and Tampa, when he spun off about. I think Devin White for that, bro. Yeah. I'm like, this guy's an animal.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's an animal.

[Travis Kelsey]

Like tiptoeing on the sideline and then just threw it to Clyde in the.

[Trey Smith]

Back of the span of Untarget, bro. That was one. Yeah, Like a flip past. I've been like year two or something against Denver. I want to say it was the Jet or something. Jet might take it for to the house, but it was like just a little flick. Like, I remember Wiley. Wiley used to get JT&W. Because JT gets fired up too. One is like the most chill cat I've ever met in my life.

[Travis Kelsey]

Until once we get rolling.

[Trey Smith]

Oh, yeah, he's the next wy. He. They're a couple. Like, we score or anything like that. Like, Pat doesn't. Wiley would just attack me and just beat the hell out of me. I'm just like, let's go wild. But yeah, there have been a couple times where I'm like, Patton, you're that dude. Like, you're that. But it's hard to even grab him because he takes off yourself. It's like, slow down.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, it's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

No, they don't. Like, you know, to check you have your headphones before you get on a plane at the airport.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

You want to talk some wrestling?

[Trey Smith]

Let's talk a little wrestling brother.

[Travis Kelsey]

Little wrestling brother. Big WWE fan. You had WrestleMania last year in Philly when Jason got in the ring.

[Jason Kelsey]

Really?

[Trey Smith]

No.

[Travis Kelsey]

Did you were at okay with the Jason coming out in the Tim's and the luchador, the Rey Mysterio. Dude, who were your. Who were your guys growing up up in wwe?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I love Randy Orton. John Cena was like. Was a big one. Triple H. Yeah. Weird one. But Kofi Kingston. I used to love Coco.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, okay.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, probably like the Undertaker. So a little generic, but like, man, all those are my guys. But you know, I love John Cena. I had the little. The wristband.

[Travis Kelsey]

Legend.

[Jason Kelsey]

Man, you were that era right after like us. Like I remember when we were growing up, it was the Attitude era. Is that still the Attitude era with John Cena or is that a different era? I always get them errors.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's like the tail end of it, I think.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, like for us it was like.

[Travis Kelsey]

Stone cold because he still had that personality.

[Jason Kelsey]

Mankind, it was still called the WWF when we were like really growing up. And then it just transitioned to wwe. If you were going to build an NFL roster out of wwe, let's just say wrestling superstars, anybody from any era, what is your ultimate NFL roster looking like? Let's start with the. Let's start with the quarterback. Who we going with?

[Travis Kelsey]

Damn, this is tough. Go ahead.

[Trey Smith]

Let's hear it for qb. Go ahead and give me a surprise. Give me CM Punk.

[Jason Kelsey]

So you. You want somebody good at promos? You want somebody to get it delivering promos. Okay, there we go. See him?

[Trey Smith]

He's not gonna dime. All right, let's start out with lineman bro Mark Henry.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, give me the big show.

[Trey Smith]

Either tackle. Give me the great Khali at either tackle. Yeah, we're gonna program a little bit of power in Legowski. All right.

[Jason Kelsey]

What about. What about Andre the Giant? Where's he fitting in.

[Travis Kelsey]

All time?

[Trey Smith]

Andre the Giant and won the tackles. We're talking this big six, seven footers all around.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, exactly.

[Trey Smith]

We got the reach and the world's strongest man. Etc. Now there you go, running back. Oh, my goodness. Give me Rey Mysterio, running back. That's what I'm talking about. We're not going for a lot of crazy, so we just need them to get in the gaps. Just there's gonna be a lot of big guys up front. Just squeeze in and Just.

[Travis Kelsey]

Just find. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's gonna be like Darren Sprouls. He's gonna be like Darren Sprouls. He's gonna hide behind the line and then just peek on.

[Trey Smith]

Exactly. We're getting mauled by the great Khali. There you go, spinning it up wide receiver wise. That's where I'm gonna struggle.

[Jason Kelsey]

What about tight end? Where do you think? Tight end? Because that's a definite, like WWE position. I think every tight end is a wrestling fan.

[Trey Smith]

It feels like I'm just trying to think of somebody. Man, I'm blanking right now. Do you think. You think John Cena's fast?

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I don't think he's good.

[Jason Kelsey]

To be fair though, I don't. I don't think many wrestlers are fans. I don't think that's what they go to wrestling for. But they. The. The ring is only so big.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I think John Cena will figure it out. A tight end.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think that's a good one. If. If that's your lineman size, it would be proportionate for John to be.

[Trey Smith]

Give me John.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who we going for?

[Trey Smith]

Roberta Cena, wide receiver. Give me a Kofi Casea.

[Jason Kelsey]

Okay, okay.

[Trey Smith]

Give you Archer. Give me Archief.

[Jason Kelsey]

Truth.

[Travis Kelsey]

Our truth, man. You're taking it. I don't even know these guys. I was thinking like a Jeff Hardy or like one of the Hardy brothers flying off the top ropes with the.

[Jason Kelsey]

Hair like a triple H or.

[Travis Kelsey]

This team is running the. Out of the ball. Triple H is the wide receiver.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. I was just saying we're gonna run this block.

[Jason Kelsey]

What about the Rock? Who's the Rock? The Rock could play tight end, a receiver or.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I mean, you put the rocket side in. I mean, honestly, bro, this would be. Be crazy. Put more swabble wide receiver. Put in that slide.

[Travis Kelsey]

There we go. Yeah, we'll figure it out.

[Jason Kelsey]

There we go.

[Trey Smith]

What about that?

[Travis Kelsey]

That's.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think that's a pretty good roster. I would be interested. That's what the XFL should have just done. They should have tried to get football players. I should have just done this.

[Travis Kelsey]

And these guys out there, see how they go.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's right.

[Travis Kelsey]

Who would be your tag team partner if you ever were to join the wwe?

[Trey Smith]

Ooh, without a doubt, without fault, without question. Creed Humphrey.

[Jason Kelsey]

He's your tag team in the NFL. Why wouldn't he be?

[Travis Kelsey]

The tag team you guys got.

[Jason Kelsey]

What would your tag team name be?

[Travis Kelsey]

You guys got a team name?

[Trey Smith]

Ebony and Ivory.

[Travis Kelsey]

Put it on a T shirt. Put it on a T shirt. Put it on a T shirt.

[Trey Smith]

Oh, that is.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, my gosh. That's good. That's great.

[Travis Kelsey]

How did it come to you so quick, man? That was gold.

[Trey Smith]

So lucky, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

God damn. Ebony and ivory, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That is electric.

[Trey Smith]

Telling you. Woo.

[Travis Kelsey]

All right, big dog, let's get to this last segment, man. I don't even know how to transition.

[Jason Kelsey]

No topping. That. That's gonna be the best thing.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, man. Ebony and ivory forever, man. This is our last segment. We always close out the. The interviews with. We gotta ask, but you don't have to answer. You could tell us to off on any of these questions or you can just give us a quick answer, man. Let's start it off with what is your ideal Casey Barbecue plate?

[Trey Smith]

Okay, ideal plate's gonna come from Jack Stack. I'm not getting lamb ribs, man. I don't know why, but they have the best.

[Travis Kelsey]

You say lamb ribs about to get in on these.

[Jason Kelsey]

Is that different than like lamb chops? Like what is the. They just don't cut them up, up or.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it's just the red part of the lamp. So, like they do a dry rub season on it. But like super tender, mad decent mommy of the balls. Like tell you right now, I do like lamb.

[Jason Kelsey]

Lamb is great. Okay, all right, all right. I did not expect that from a Tennessee guy. I did not expect lamb ribs. I did not.

[Trey Smith]

Let me do the full regional. So I'm gonna do lamb, lamb from KC and burn in SO2 from there. Right. I'm also gonna show a ton of love to Texas. I want half a pound of brisket.

[Travis Kelsey]

It at least.

[Trey Smith]

At least. I want a beef rib. A little piece of beef.

[Jason Kelsey]

River beef rib is the best. That's my favorite. Oh, I love beef rib.

[Trey Smith]

And then finally closing it out for Memphis, that's where I'm going to do my pork. So pork ribs, pulled pork, even like a barbecue chicken like that. That's my. That's my seeds down there.

[Jason Kelsey]

So. So everything.

[Trey Smith]

I can't pick one.

[Jason Kelsey]

What about sides? Where we go insides?

[Trey Smith]

Oh, I gotta have Mac and cheese, baked beans. Give me slaw sloth.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think I know where you're going.

[Travis Kelsey]

With dessert for sure.

[Trey Smith]

I think the. The proper dessert is always like a peach cobbler or banana pudding.

[Jason Kelsey]

I thought you were going banana pudding. That's my go all day.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

I got to ask you this because we talked about this last week. When you think of barbecue, do you think of the Midwest or do you think of down South?

[Trey Smith]

I think down south.

[Jason Kelsey]

Bam. Bam.

[Travis Kelsey]

But to be fair, Tennessee. Tennessee is the Midwest to Be fair.

[Trey Smith]

Oh, it's not.

[Travis Kelsey]

Tennessee is the Midwest.

[Trey Smith]

No, that's you. No, it's just. Sounds soft, brother. It's still down south to the original.

[Travis Kelsey]

13 colonies, I'll give you that.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Today's day and age. I mean, it's right next to us.

[Trey Smith]

It is.

[Jason Kelsey]

It is close.

[Travis Kelsey]

If Ohio is the Midwest, it really.

[Jason Kelsey]

Makes no sense that Ohio is in the Midwest. Right? Like, I don't. It's on the eastern side of the country. It's. I. It's never made sense to me either way. And then Tennessee is in the middle of the country. It's not down south. It's like, smack dab in the middle. Yeah, we gotta.

[Trey Smith]

It doesn't make sense.

[Travis Kelsey]

Talking more about food. You won the Kelsey Jam wing eating contest by a landslide. It wasn't even fucking close, so time out.

[Jason Kelsey]

What is this? Because I've. I've dabbled in a wing eating contest. What was this? How many wings? What was the time?

[Travis Kelsey]

I think it was like a minute. I don't even remember. It wasn't that long.

[Trey Smith]

It wasn't long. The dude you guys put me up against was a scrub, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah. I don't know how. I think he won a contest to get into it. I don't even think he just won, like, a raffle. Like, he got pulled out of the. I don't even know if he, like, eight wings like that.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

But it was still funny as hell.

[Jason Kelsey]

What was the competition? How. What was the. Do you remember? Yeah, Competition. Travis, Trey. What was the. What was the. What was the deal?

[Trey Smith]

It was a wing stop deal. They had probably like 20 wings in a container and just as many as you could eat and then like, fill it up in the same. So I think the time there was a minute, though. It wasn't very long.

[Jason Kelsey]

How many did you get down in a minute?

[Trey Smith]

Well, I could have gotten more, but based on his tempo, I was just like.

[Travis Kelsey]

He was just looking over like, you and Cruisers. This is getting.

[Trey Smith]

This is getting crazy how many things I put down. Try like seven. Easy. It was easy.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was. Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

So have you ever heard of wing bull? Trey? So Wing bowl was. Is a Philadelphia. Was a Philadelphia contest they used to have. And the local radio station put it on because the Eagles were never in the Super Bowl. So the Wing bowl was always the same time as the Super Bowl. They did it at Wells Fargo. It was shenanigans. Go.

[Travis Kelsey]

It was at 7 in the morning.

[Jason Kelsey]

People would be drinking. The night before.

[Travis Kelsey]

Friday, they would tailgate all.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was legendary. There was all sorts. You wouldn't be able to do it again because there was like all sorts of strip clubs and other things involved in it. But there was. There were like local, like there were local superstars that developed into these large and left characters. Anyways, I competed one year in it and the way the contest worked, it was 14 minutes. 14. One round of 14 minutes. Then there was elimination. A second round of 14 minutes in elimination and then a speed round of two minutes. So 30 minutes overall. You have to eat wings.

[Trey Smith]

Whoa.

[Jason Kelsey]

What? I ate 65 wings in the first 14 minutes. I'm thinking I'm killing it.

[Travis Kelsey]

65.

[Jason Kelsey]

I think he got fucking smoked. I was out in the first round. Not even close. The woman who holds the record at Wing bowl, take a guess at how many wings the winner of Wing bowl won with.

[Travis Kelsey]

This is insane.

[Jason Kelsey]

This is a 30 minute timeframe. Keep in mind 30 minutes. How many wings do you think she got down in 30 minutes?

[Trey Smith]

If you ate 65 and got Elo. I mean it's got to be like touching like 100, right, bro?

[Jason Kelsey]

Keep going. Well, I'm not talking about the first round. This is all three rounds. Like she had over 200 in the first round, I'll give you that.

[Travis Kelsey]

In the first round. He got smoked by Brandon.

[Jason Kelsey]

Look up the record for Wing Bowl. Look up Wing bowl record. Molly Skyler.

[Trey Smith]

Picture of this legend too, too.

[Jason Kelsey]

Like, dude, she's a beast. She's a beast. She's a. She's. I think she's from Omaha or something like that. She's just this tiny woman.

[Travis Kelsey]

Oh, they.

[Jason Kelsey]

Molly Sky.

[Travis Kelsey]

When the ringer.

[Jason Kelsey]

They flew in a ringer. She qualified. She ate like 10 pounds to qualify to get into the deal. No, this is like a big prize. It was a big, big event. Brandon, what was the. Can you look this up? Brandon?

[Travis Kelsey]

They deleted all information from the wing pole because of what they were doing inside that stage.

[Jason Kelsey]

To you. She ate 455 in the first 28 minutes.

[Trey Smith]

That's unbelievable. I can't be real.

[Jason Kelsey]

501. 30 minutes. It's 501 set by Miley Schuyler. Wing bull 26. That was. How. How crazy is that though? 501 wings.

[Trey Smith]

I mean that's unblue. That's. It doesn't seem humanly possible.

[Travis Kelsey]

Listen, I've seen. I've seen Trey Smith fill up a few to go boxes every Thursday night. Dude, Thursday nights. This is what the pro city.

[Jason Kelsey]

The Pro bowl shouldn't be playing flag. It should have an offensive lineman winning compet. I want to see which offensive line in the NFL can eat the most wings.

[Trey Smith]

I'm with it.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah, I'd buy that ticket. Yeah, I'd buy that ticket.

[Trey Smith]

Kingsley and I have a challenge because Kingsley said he's eating 80 in one sitting. So what?

[Travis Kelsey]

Kingsley's doing what I like. I like.

[Jason Kelsey]

I like him sliding in the guard then.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Thursday nights are always my favorite after meetings because it's wing night in. In the facility. You can go in there and everybody, they listen. The Kansas City chefs, they put together a spread of, like, five to six different flavors, and they just keep bringing them out. They just keep bringing out. And when I tell you, everybody's just in there cracking jokes, having a good old time, just smashing them. And then you see Trey walking out with three boxes.

[Trey Smith]

Boxes, dude.

[Travis Kelsey]

Good times, baby. Good times, man.

[Trey Smith]

The worst part is getting the peanut on the way back home.

[Travis Kelsey]

Jason, I'm telling you, gotta stop through the peanut at least one time before. Like, next time you're in K.C.

[Trey Smith]

Man, mine's like, 30 minutes from the crib, man. I'll walk to.

[Jason Kelsey]

I'm in.

[Travis Kelsey]

You go to the one downtown or you go to the One Round Plaza downtown location? Oh, yeah, it's classy mess.

[Trey Smith]

It got so bad that every time I stop in there on Thursday, like the usual or I'll call, they're like, hey, is this Trey? I'm like, yeah, I will see you about 10 minutes.

[Travis Kelsey]

We got you, dog.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, we got you.

[Travis Kelsey]

We'll make them fresh for you, big guy.

[Jason Kelsey]

Next question. O line, Mount Rushmore. Who you putting on it?

[Trey Smith]

Oh, whoa.

[Jason Kelsey]

Top four O linemen in NFL history.

[Trey Smith]

Golly, we're putting me on the spot, dude. I gotta put Larry Allen in there. Rest in peace, Larry Allen. For me, like, everyone wants to be as strong as Larry, but no one's as strong as Larry. No one has the same.

[Jason Kelsey]

It was hilarious and deceptively athletic, that one play of him hawking down the interception. Oh, my gosh.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. I thought I was moving.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Oh, no, I'm not there yet. Okay.

[Trey Smith]

Dude, I want to put in Jackie Slater.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. Okay.

[Trey Smith]

Nice. Man, he's so bad. For, like, 20 plus years, Coach has always talked about him. And just look at his story. He's awesome. This is a personal one of mine. I. I want to put. I want to put Joe Thomas in there.

[Travis Kelsey]

Joe.

[Jason Kelsey]

Say personal. Why is that a personal one for you?

[Trey Smith]

Like, what is Just like, that was a dude. I used to watch a ton in high school, and I didn't have a guy, like, with Charles Bentley at the time, tell me. Hey, you're not Charles. You're not Joe Thomas. What a. Are you watching Joe Thomas?

[Jason Kelsey]

So good early end.

[Trey Smith]

So he set me straight pretty fast. I put Will Shields in there.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's a great. That's a damn good Mount Rushmore right there. That is. Damn.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's it right there, baby.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, Joe. Dude, I love that you put Joe in there. I mean, one of the most underrated, if that's possible. Like, the guy didn't miss a snap for, like, 10 years. Can you think about. I mean, how outrageous that is on.

[Travis Kelsey]

Top of him, just not miss a snap. He was out there balling and.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

And didn't miss a snap when they were like, Owen, 15 in one year, and he's like, yeah, I'm still gonna go out here and do my job, because that's what I get paid to do.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah. That's what makes him so legend, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

Hall of Fame beef. He's got a farm.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude. Think about how crazy it is. He didn't miss a snap, and not one of those snaps was a playoff snap. Could you imagine? I don't even know why I'm making that connection, but it's just how. It's just outlandish to me. All right, whatever.

[Travis Kelsey]

I'm sure he loves hearing that.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, I know. I'm an idiot. I should have said that or whatever.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yeah.

[Jason Kelsey]

Who's the toughest guy you've ever had to block one on one?

[Trey Smith]

Aaron Donald.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah. AD what about somebody unheralded, maybe somebody the media wouldn't expect?

[Trey Smith]

I would say Malik Collins, who was just recently with the 49ers.

[Jason Kelsey]

Dude, I. I played him when he was young in Dallas and got to watch him get a lot better over his tenure there. And I agree. There's something about the. Like, you could tell he's smart, and he's like. He's ahead of. Of, like, what he wants to do. And I love that answer. Malik is a great player. Where's he at now?

[Trey Smith]

You said where it was 49ers, but I don't know if he's there again this upcoming year.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, he. He started in Dallas. I think he's with the Texas.

[Trey Smith]

The first time I played him.

[Jason Kelsey]

Then he went to. Yep. Then he went to Houston, and then the 49ers. Probably. Great answer. Love that answer. Why do you. Is there a reason?

[Trey Smith]

I just think for his size, his ability to move the way he does, and like you said, you can tell that he's anticipating, like, what he's going to do for his moves, you know, I mean he's sort of setting something up every time and like generally guys that size are going to have the ability to move the way he does and just like he's very proficient with his hands as well. So I always felt like he was a guy that he doesn't have the quote unquote like namesake and the accolades, but he's one of those dudes where if you go to sleep on a man, you're gonna have a long ass day. Like you really embarrass you fast. Yeah man, I just respected him, man. I really respect.

[Jason Kelsey]

Awesome. Love that answer, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

I gotta ask you. This just made me think of our guy. Friend of the. Friend of the family, friend of the show. We gotta actually get him on the show soon but. Colin Saunders, how was it going up against sir bank on Monday night this past year, man?

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it was cool playing.

[Jason Kelsey]

He probably wasn't talking, right? He didn't talk.

[Travis Kelsey]

He was, he was locked in.

[Trey Smith]

He was locked in. No, it was, was cold St. Vince, man. Colin was probably one. He's going to go down as one of my favorite teammates I've ever had of all time. Just great dude, man. But funny, unbelievably funny, man.

[Travis Kelsey]

It's always going to be a good time around bank, man. But that shit's funny as hell.

[Trey Smith]

Was it?

[Travis Kelsey]

I was going to say I can see him being locked in when, whenever I came across him on the field. But you already know he is such a funny guy and such like, I want to say a class clown. But he's here to have a good time while we get business done done. You know what I mean? And he's got that championship work ethic and everything but it, it's, it's just it. I don't know why it's hard for me to see some guys take it that serious. And for whatever reason, I mean I saw it, but it, I. It just had to feel different for you going up against him as a saint instead of just in practice and stuff.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, it definitely was a weird feeling those first couple plays. But I think the biggest thing is just like for me learning that like man, if your buddy makes a play on you, it makes you look bad, it's going to be even worse. So like you can never.

[Travis Kelsey]

You already.

[Trey Smith]

Maybe a little middle play, you know, you gotta, you gotta be on your P's and Q's, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

Speaking of going against guys in practice, what's it like to go up against Chris Jones? What was that first one on One.

[Trey Smith]

Like, yeah, he gave me my welcome to the NFL moment. Like that. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Next question. You gotta tell me about it.

[Jason Kelsey]

Oh, gosh, yeah, man.

[Trey Smith]

Going against Chris, like, obviously, you know the caliber of player he is, you know, as a rookie, coming into it, and I just remember, like, just being overwhelmed. Little bit like St. Joe's this year. Volume of plays. You gotta learn. It's hot as hell. Like, they're riding you every day. And then here you are blocking this All Pro to, like, best use of tackle in NFL. Like, good luck, rook. Like, figuring all this out, you know? And, you know, for me, it was just getting whooped repetitively towards, like, okay, I'm learning. Okay, this works against him, or I can't. I can't play him like this. But, like, I feel like the. The sort of mind to it all was understand that as I go through the season, I'm not gonna play Chris Jones. Yeah.

[Travis Kelsey]

Every single week.

[Trey Smith]

Every single week. Like, I might face, like, maybe one, but there's only one Chris Jones. You know what I mean?

[Travis Kelsey]

Exactly.

[Trey Smith]

So, like, for me, it's like, understanding how to block them, but then also the lessons, like, I'm over here, you know, grinding. It's like a long drive drill. We're in, like, play 13. He got subbed out. He's back in. And I throw a right hand. He slaps it down. Beats me. He's like, pat's hips. And he just comes back like, hey, look here, rook. You gotta get that hand to the outside.

[Travis Kelsey]

You know that he gonna come over and sweet talk you.

[Jason Kelsey]

Can't throw that outside hand. Too shallow.

[Trey Smith]

He just gonna laugh. I'm just like, what?

[Travis Kelsey]

Trey, I've been trying to tell you. He can't be doing that. That Mississippi accent, man.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, I. I love him, though, man. Like, I really. I. I'm so happy I get to go against that type of player every time, because I know, once again, it just. Just prepares me, bro. I'm not gonna see that all the time. And, you know, just like that. Iron sharpens iron, right? I want to be able to go against the best. So, like, oh, yeah. Go time. And the bullets start flying. I already seen something like that. But actually, you're not as good as him, so let me show what I got.

[Jason Kelsey]

Yeah, there ain't. You ain't gonna find too many people as good as him in the actual game. It's a good thing he's in practice. You like that? We saw him before. He really started to develop a name. The year we actually won the Super Bowl. I Think it was one of his first games, like start and start Harden.

[Travis Kelsey]

Yep.

[Jason Kelsey]

Bro. We didn't really prepare for it. We just like, we're like, oh, like we're just playing like a three technique and like halfway through again, like, who in the is this guy? This is so like, I was like, God dang, this guy. And then we watch the rest of the season. He's killing everybody's like, thank God it's not just us. Let's do this.

[Trey Smith]

Really good.

[Travis Kelsey]

9 5, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

That's fun.

[Travis Kelsey]

Trey. I think we're good, dog. I appreciate you coming on, giving us your time, your stories, man.

[Trey Smith]

Sir.

[Travis Kelsey]

Wish you the best when you already know going into a mini camp, man. We're gonna turn this thing up. Get right back after it, baby. I'll see you next week, man. But appreciate you taking the time and jumping on and telling us all these fun ass stories, man.

[Trey Smith]

Yeah, man, I appreciate y' all.

[Travis Kelsey]

Monday, you already know, back at it, she's saying.

[Jason Kelsey]

All right, that wraps up another episode. New Heights. Thank you to True Smith.

[Travis Kelsey]

Man, my dog.

[Jason Kelsey]

What a legend.

[Travis Kelsey]

Such a cool story too, man. And he's only adding on to it, man.

[Jason Kelsey]

I don't know what hits harder, the way he plays football or his personality.

[Travis Kelsey]

That's my guy right there.

[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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[Jason Kelsey]

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[Travis Kelsey]

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