Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 1/19

Summary

New Rory & MAL: Best of Rory & Mal – Week of 1/19

Release Date: January 25, 2026
Hosts: Rory, MAL, Damaris, Josh
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This week's "Best of" episode features a highlight reel of hilarious hot takes, candid conversations, and playful debates about everything from the cultural legacy of bowling to critiques of modern hip hop, double albums, and the enduring debate over the best Matt Damon and Ben Affleck movies. With sharp-witted banter and irreverent insights, Rory, MAL, and friends give listeners laughs and real opinions on relationships, music, pop culture, and life’s random hypotheticals.

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Bowling Nostalgia & Debate: Is Bowling Still Cool?

[02:33 - 06:13]

• Bowling’s Cultural Decline:
  Rory shouts out a friend’s new bowling alley and reminisces about when bowling used to be a central social activity. He wonders aloud why bowling has faded from mainstream fun and muses on how people now travel more for excitement.

  “Remember when bowling alleys were a thing? Like what happened?”
  — Rory [02:57]

• Global Bowling Show Idea:
  Offers a tongue-in-cheek pitch for a show about traveling the world introducing bowling to people who’ve never bowled.

  “I would go to a bowling alley in Sweden, see how the Swedes bowl.”
  — Rory [03:11]

• Are Pro Bowlers Real Athletes?
  Rory throws shade at professional bowlers, calling them the “most trash athletes on the planet,” arguing that bowling should result in perfect scores every time since it’s repetitive and relatively unchallenging.

  “There’s no way you don’t bowl a perfect score every time... It’s your life’s work!”
  — Rory [03:36, 04:18]

• Debate Ensues:
  Josh and Damaris push back, defending the mental aspect and challenge of competitive bowling and criticizing Rory’s take as unreasonable.

  “Nobody is perfect, so you can’t [expect that].”
  — Josh [04:54]

  “You ass at bowling. Why you over here jumping?”
  — Damaris [06:13]

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Dating, Bowling & First Date Etiquette

[06:16 - 10:27]

• Bowling as a Date Move:
  The group jokes about the old routine of taking someone bowling as a cheap early date, complete with innuendo and laughs about post-date hookups. Damaris lays out the female perspective, saying bowling signals “broke guy energy” unless in a relationship.

  “That child was broke. It's a cheap date.”
  — Damaris [08:00]

• Ideal Early Dates for Women:
  Damaris says she prefers gaming dates, sharing a personal anecdote about a first date at Dave & Buster’s. Rory and Josh acknowledge not all women love bowling, emphasizing the importance of doing what your date enjoys.

  “If that's the type of woman I'm dating, we're not going to Dave & Buster's. I'll just buy the bag and we'll... This would never happen.”
  — Rory [09:24]

• Connect 4 and Relationship Wagers:
  Jokes about betting on Connect 4—a playful thread about how relationship games turn competitive (including suggestive wagers), and who’s most likely to lose.

  “Losing in Connect 4 is only off neglect in, like, drunk game night...There's no way you focused and lose in Connect 4.”
  — Rory [10:34]

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Sexting, Boundaries, and "Nut Videos"

[10:42 - 13:30]

• Sexting Anecdotes:
  Josh shares a story about a “loss” in Connect 4 that resulted in a sexting dare. The cast launches a candid discussion on sharing explicit videos, "edging," and post-nut clarity.

  “Editing your nut video is...the sickest thing of all.”
  — Rory [12:35]

• Reactions and Petty Moves:
  Damaris admits she'll leave men's risky videos unread to be petty or get back at someone, with the group laughing at how this could backfire.

  “And I’m a terrible person because...I’m going to leave you on red for at least an hour.”
  — Damaris [12:51] "That's evil."
  — Rory [12:57]

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Kissing Styles, Passion & Public Displays

[13:53 - 17:39]

• Can You Tell If He Likes You By His Kiss?
  Josh retells feedback from a date who believed his kissing style lacked passion. This sparks a candid exchange about public tongue kissing and cultural differences, with Damaris noting, "White boys love mono."

• Passionate Kissing Mechanics:
  Rory distinguishes between early and deeply passionate kisses, describing the difference as "face touch, hand hold" and playful, intimate gestures.

  “It's a lot of testing the waters to see what she likes...Making out is not just to get to me eating your p***y. Like, we're gonna take our time here and make out.”
  — Rory [18:00]

• Public PDA:
  Damaris argues showing passion in public builds anticipation and attraction, causing more playful debate.

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Music Reviews: A$AP Rocky, Big Three, and Double Albums

[18:41 - 24:28]

• A$AP Rocky’s "Don’t Be Dumb" Album:
  Damaris, Josh, and Rory discuss the album, all agreeing it’s Rocky’s best work in years, particularly praising the production and experimentation.

  "Every beat on this is better than any beat I heard all of last year."
  — Rory [20:01] "The album sounds really good...some of the best music that I've heard from Rocky in a very long time."
  — Josh [23:27]

• Rocky’s Influence & "Big Three":
  There’s back-and-forth on whether Rocky belongs in the new rap “Big Three,” with Damaris proposing Tyler, Travis Scott, and Playboi Carti, noting Rocky’s influence but thinking his time has passed.

  “I always felt like the ASAP crew and Odd Future were perfect, like mirrors of the kids from those cities at that time.”
  — Rory [22:34]

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Hip-Hop Labels: TI, Grand Hustle, and Missed Opportunities

[25:05 - 29:33]

• TI’s Comeback and Grand Hustle’s Potential:
  Rory hears a snippet of TI’s new song and reflects on Grand Hustle’s almost legendary run—how it could have outshined others if TI's legal troubles hadn’t derailed it. They recount how stars like Meek Mill and Travis Scott started at Grand Hustle before leaving for MMG and GOOD Music.

  “If things panned out contractually...Grand Hustle could have been one of the biggest labels of the early 2010s.”
  — Rory [25:46] “When you're an artist and you're still in your prime, it's hard to have a label and really focus and get other talent off...which is why I always praise Wayne for that.”
  — Josh [27:11]

• Why Some Labels Fail:
  The hosts discuss why it’s tough for superstar artists to simultaneously cultivate new talent, using TI and Lil Wayne as contrasting examples.

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Stranded Island Hypotheticals: Would You Get Horny?

[33:39 - 39:57]

• Movie Talk Inspires Stranded Island Hypotheticals:
  After discussing Desert Island survival movies (including Rachel McAdams’ newest, "Castaway," and the classic "The Beach"), Rory asks if survival would make people more or less likely to hook up due to trauma bonding and biological drives.

  “I think I would 100% beat off...If two people of the same age...you probably end up f***ing.”
  — Rory [35:55, 38:20]

  “Once you get to the point where you know we're gonna survive...But the first initial plane goes down, second day on the island—no f***ing way. You're a maniac.”
  — Josh [38:28]

• Science Check:
  They read AI-generated answers about human sexual desire under deserted island conditions, agreeing that eventually, biology wins—but not before food and water!

  “Trauma makes you horny...Yes, I agree.”
  — Josh [37:13]

• TV References:
  Lost and Lord of the Flies come up as examples where, given time, intimacy would occur. Damaris points out that on "Lost" there was, predictably, sex among the castaways.

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Matt Damon vs. Ben Affleck—Who’s Better?

[41:32 - 49:45]

• The Great Debate:
  Sparked by the new Damon/Affleck film "Rip," the hosts debate which Boston actor has had the superior career—factoring in acting chops, filmography, and cultural impact.

  “Matt...But it’s closer than people give credit. I think Ben, in the second half of his career, has caught up.”
  — Rory [42:49] “‘The Town’ is better than every Jason Bourne movie...I could watch The Town any time.”
  — Rory [47:06] “Gone Girl—underrated movie.”
  — Josh [47:45] “Me, personally, I’m taking Ben Affleck. I think Ben Affleck is a better actor.”
  — Josh [48:02]

• Classic Film Comparisons:
  They weigh "Saving Private Ryan" vs "Armageddon" and "The Town" vs "The Departed," with nuanced takes and hotly contested choices, plus jokes about which movies they’ll actually rewatch (even with commercials).

  “If a movie is really good, I’ll watch it with commercials.”
  — Josh [47:32]

• Man Crush Monday:
  Rory admits to a “man crush” on both Affleck and Damon, singing the praises of their work ethic, their roots, and their new “profit-share with the film crew” business model.

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Memorable Quotes

• Rory:

  "Every beat on this [A$AP Rocky] is better than any beat I heard all of last year." [20:01] "I think professional bowlers are the most trash athletes on the planet." [03:29]

• Josh:

  "But even when it's your life's work...you're going to miss. Now, you might not miss again for another 90 shots, but you'll miss. Yeah, it happens." [05:49] “Gone Girl—underrated movie.” [47:45]

• Damaris:

  "That child was broke. It's a cheap date." [08:00] “I'm a terrible person because I get a nut video and I'm going to leave you on red for at least an hour.” [12:51]

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Notable Timestamps

• Bowling nostalgia/athlete debate: 02:33 – 06:13
• Early date do's & don’ts: 06:16 – 10:27
• Sexting, edging, & post-nut debates: 10:42 – 13:30
• Kissing, PDA, & passion: 13:53 – 17:39
• A$AP Rocky "Don’t Be Dumb" review: 18:41 – 24:28
• TI/Grand Hustle/label insights: 25:05 – 29:33
• Desert Island hypotheticals: 33:39 – 39:57
• Matt Damon vs Ben Affleck movies: 41:32 – 49:45

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Tone & Style

The conversation throughout is light-hearted, unfiltered, and irreverent, with plenty of jokes, partner-roasting, and cultural callouts. The hosts keep it real and relatable regardless of the topic.

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Key Takeaways

• Bowling has deeper cultural roots than we remember—and is great for a cheap date, even if not everyone loves it.
• Playful competitiveness, especially on date nights, is a recurring theme in millennial relationships.
• The group feels A$AP Rocky’s new album is one of his best and recognize his outsized influence, if not “Big Three” status.
• Hip-hop labels live or die by their founders’ focus; TI’s legal issues arguably cost Grand Hustle its legacy.
• Pop culture debates are at their best when rooted in personal re-watchability and mutual respect for icons like Affleck and Damon.
• No matter the context—be it stranded on an island or just playing Connect 4—the group's answers always balance jokes with the real.

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For fans new and old, this episode is packed with the trademark humor, insight, and cultural critique that defines "New Rory & MAL."

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[Rory]

Salute to America New and I saw Dusko bowling alley. He opened. I saw his. His wife working with kids there. It looks like cool setup that they got going on. Yeah, that. That would be a cool retirement plan.

[Josh]

Bowling alley.

[Rory]

I would, I would own a bowling alley.

[Josh]

Just open up, just bowl every day.

[Rory]

I don't know if anyone bowls anymore, but like that would be a fun thing to do. And I like what dame they have a stage over there. Like, like, remember when bowling alleys were a thing?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like what happened?

[Josh]

I mean, people's, people's idea of fun and what they wanted to do on their free time changed.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Really what people did and which is something that I like. I think people started traveling more because I've noticed that over the years, a.

[Rory]

Lot of people travel. I would go to a bowling alley in Sweden, see how the. See how the Swedes bowl.

[Josh]

That just sounds funny, but yeah, like.

[Rory]

In Australia, I'd like to see if the ball moved the other way the same way the toilet does.

[Josh]

It's a show. It's a show in there somewhere. Traveling the world and just bowling. Introducing bowling to people who've never seen it before.

[Rory]

I think, I think professional bowlers are the most trash athletes on the planet.

[Josh]

Why?

[Rory]

There's no reason why you don't bowl a perfect score every time. Well, that's. It's. If there was a professional free throw, shooters like you had nothing to do whatsoever but just shoot free throws. There's no parts of the game at all. You don't even have to go get fouled. The game is shooting free throws.

[Damaris]

People will still miss.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Rory]

98 out of 100. If your whole life's goal was just shooting free throws, there's no way you don't bowl a perfect score. I know people in Hudson Lanes right now bowling perfect scores off two shots of Hennessy.

[Josh]

Yeah, but it's, it's different when it's. It's. Competition evolved. Like, you know, it's. It's just different elements to it. It's mental because we talking about just. We talking about a fraction off and you can, you can, you can not.

[Rory]

It's your life's work.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but.

[Josh]

Yeah, but a lot of people have life's work that they're not.

[Rory]

Everyone's quiet at Duke at the free throws go like this. Yeah, but it's dead quiet. Golf Is very difficult. One of the harder games and it's quiet bowling. Everyone's dead quiet. It's the same. There's no regulation difference between the shit in my hood and professional bowling. It's the same thing.

[Josh]

Yeah, but it's still.

[Rory]

They at least move the three point line from college to NBA.

[Josh]

Yeah, but it's still.

[Rory]

You know, professional bowlers should be bowling from the rafters.

[Josh]

Yeah, but you're not perfect though. So while you think you're perfect and.

[Rory]

You think I don't think I'm per.

[Damaris]

You think.

[Rory]

You think my depressive mind thinks.

[Josh]

No, no, I'm saying any. Nobody is perfect, so you can't.

[Rory]

I can see every now and then you wouldn't bowl. A perfect game happens. Yeah, but the fact that a 710 split even exists in your world, when your life's work is taking this ball and throwing it 20ft down to some pins, you're the worst athlete on earth.

[Josh]

No, I can't.

[Rory]

And I watch professional.

[Josh]

Rory is crazy. You just. Why are you.

[Rory]

Have you seen professional pool players and the. That they could do when it's their life's work? What's. What's. What's more difficult?

[Josh]

The playing pool is probably more difficult for sure.

[Rory]

They could shoot. If we had a pool table here and put another pool table outside on the street on top of my car. They could shoot that shit over through the window. Down, up, down, go right in, hit the eight ball.

[Josh]

But that.

[Rory]

These guys don't do a ball perfectly. But.

[Josh]

No but you messing. You thinking about. You're not factoring how much time it takes to get to be able to do that though. That takes a lot.

[Rory]

It's their life's work.

[Josh]

Yeah, but I'm saying even these guys.

[Rory]

Life's work is a free throw.

[Josh]

Yeah, but even when it's your life's work, you. You're gonna miss. You're not per. Nobody's perfect.

[Guest]

Rory.

[Josh]

You're gonna miss. Now, you might not miss again for another 90 shots, but you'll miss. Yeah, it happens.

[Rory]

So why aren't all professional bowling things like 95 perfect games every time? Why. Why is it not triple overtime every time they.

[Damaris]

They are for the most point they are scoring. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah, for the most point they are though.

[Damaris]

And you ass at bowling. Why you over here jumping.

[Rory]

I'm not a professional.

[Josh]

Bowling stream. Bowling stream.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, we should do that. Go bowling and streaming.

[Rory]

I love bowling. Not a professional. I make mistakes. But it's like the only sport that you could like eat nachos and do it. It's great. You can drink and do it and not be judged. Like, it's. It's. And I love bowling and I watch professional bowling. Damaris, have you ever. Have you ever given the draws up after a bowling date? That used to be one of my go to's.

[Josh]

Take a bowling and then treat her like a bowling ball. Love it.

[Damaris]

Put all three fingers in.

[Rory]

And I was about to say same.

[Josh]

It's the same. It's the same thing. This. This right here.

[Rory]

I throw my leg the same way.

[Josh]

Yeah, this is the same.

[Rory]

You kick your leg up. I'm swinging my leg right behind her.

[Damaris]

Slide down the lane, thinking you know more than you do.

[Rory]

What. What were. No worry.

[Josh]

And now mall.

[Rory]

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[Josh]

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[Rory]

Just plastered on your wall, it's happening. But I know in that vision board, you were very worried about the traffic or getting to the store to transfer all your data. That was just crazy on your vision board. Like, how will I transfer the data?

[Josh]

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[Rory]

What was in women's brains when we were trying to pull, like, the bowling date in our early 20s, there was not. I was.

[Damaris]

That child was broke. It's a cheap date.

[Josh]

Yeah. Y' all wasn't thinking we was broke back. Not, not, not like, not in high school.

[Damaris]

He said in our 20s.

[Josh]

Even in your 20s, you wasn't thinking he was broke.

[Damaris]

Bowling date was the broke was. Unless we were like, in a relationship, like, the first three dates should not be bowling.

[Josh]

Really? So this should be the first three dates.

[Rory]

I think that is in, like, the first three date mix.

[Josh]

Yeah, it definitely is.

[Damaris]

I'm down with it, but okay.

[Rory]

But it's a lot of downtime to talk and get to know each other. You have the. The subtle, fun, competition, flirty shit. You could look at her ass when she's bowling. Like, there's a lot of POs.

[Damaris]

But women don't be liking bowling like that. That's a y' all thing. That's What I'm saying, like, women don't really, like. Have you ever. I know some women go bowling and they really, really enjoy it. Me, I'm very competitive. I really, really like bowling dates because I'm super competitive. But a lot of girls don't like that shit.

[Rory]

So it's like, why are you taking.

[Damaris]

Me somewhere I don't like? Just for.

[Rory]

What is the ideal first date?

[Josh]

What is the ideal first three dates for a woman?

[Damaris]

I won't say four women. I'll say, for me, I like a gaming date. Maybe as the third one. Third or second one? My longest relationship was we went to Dave and Buster's on the first date. So I like a gaming date.

[Rory]

But Dave and Buster's date is still o women, right?

[Josh]

Not most women, unless they, you know.

[Rory]

How expensive David Busters is.

[Josh]

Now, it's okay with women as long as if they get a high score, you get them a Chanel bag. That's when it's okay.

[Damaris]

I'm not arguing with you.

[Josh]

Of course. Of course you're not. Like, you would love to see it happen. Like, you can't argue with that.

[Rory]

If that's the type of woman I'm dating, we're not going to Dave and Busters. I'll just buy the bag and we'll. This would never happen.

[Damaris]

I just. I'll be betting all types of crazy shit. I be like, oh, if I make this point, I'm one of them people we doing crazy Betsy, it's not worth it. Just don't.

[Josh]

But why? I can't.

[Damaris]

But why?

[Josh]

I can't ever say, all right, if I. If I beat you and Connect4, I get that tonight. Why I can't never be that. Because I'm not losing. I'm not losing Connect 4 if it's Connect 4 on some ass, you're losing. So why? Why I forgot to say that. Then it's like, girl this thirsty, but if you be like, yo, if I beat you right now, you got to take me to Chanel tomorrow. We supposed to be like, all right, bet.

[Rory]

Also losing. Losing.

[Guest]

What?

[Rory]

Losing in Connect 4 is funny.

[Josh]

Why is that funny?

[Rory]

Everyone of our age and intelligence, like, every game should end in a stalemate. Like, losing in Connect 4 at 35 is crazy.

[Josh]

It's not, though.

[Rory]

Kids need to lose and connect.

[Damaris]

Losing that tic tac toe wild as at this age.

[Rory]

Nah, you just gotta go top left, top right, and you win.

[Damaris]

Don't tell him, Rory.

[Rory]

Shut the up, Josh. Don't leak that strategy.

[Josh]

Who doesn't know that? Like, what grown person doesn't know that by now?

[Rory]

Like, losing a Connect 4 is only off neglect in, like, drunk game night or not. There's no way you focused and lose and connect 4.

[Josh]

I remember I was playing this girl because, you know, you got. You got connect four on your phone like the games. So this girl was like, oh, if you. If I beat you, you got to send me a dick pic. Got lost on purpose. That was happening anyway.

[Rory]

Like.

[Josh]

I was like, oh, damn, you got me here. I was like, oh, damn, you got me. I don't really do this, but attachment one.

[Damaris]

Then we go and save the photo and that from two years ago. This your best work?

[Josh]

No, I take fresh work. I take fresh shots work. Yeah, I don't do that. Every woman is not created equal. Okay, okay.

[Rory]

There's like tears of what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

You send nut videos.

[Josh]

Nah, I don't do that. I don't do that.

[Damaris]

I don't believe you.

[Josh]

I edge.

[Rory]

How you send an edge video. Like, n. N. Not yet in video cuts.

[Josh]

Yeah, you don't get that. Yeah, you don't get that.

[Rory]

I was. I was about to. I was about to back it out, but I stopped.

[Josh]

I. I should have knew. And then I sent an ad at the end of it.

[Rory]

Like.

[Josh]

Like, you got to go ad free.

[Rory]

Like.

[Josh]

You got to go ad free. You got to up your subscription, baby. You got to go ad free. You know what I'm saying? I think.

[Rory]

Should we change our Jay Z tier on Patreon? More edging tier.

[Josh]

Go add free, baby.

[Rory]

You're not sending nut videos. Not horny and weird.

[Damaris]

I'm such a woman. Because I. Why am I mad at the answer to a question I asked?

[Rory]

Like, oh, you want. You wanted the answer to be yes. No, Not. Not.

[Damaris]

I wanted him to not answer. I'm mad. I'm mad. I know that about him now. Even though I asked n. You can't.

[Josh]

Finish, like, you know, can't finish myself. Not on camera.

[Rory]

The thing with nut videos is just the post nut clarity is 10 times worse because you have your phone in your hand, and with a good nut video, you can't, like, clean up it in real time. You kind of just got to let it flow.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, yeah, it's that post nut clarity is the most shameful you'll ever feel. Editing your. Your nut video is you. You probably have to get horny again to do that. And then post nut clarity. And then putting edits to something is the sickest thing of all.

[Damaris]

And I'm a terrible person because I get enough video and I'm going to leave you on red for at least an hour.

[Josh]

See, that's when I'm at.

[Rory]

That's evil.

[Josh]

That's when I'm at your door with the wild, greasy palm.

[Rory]

Did you see what I just said?

[Josh]

Touching all your doorknobs. Yeah.

[Rory]

IPhone screen all up. Yeah.

[Josh]

You're not going to do me like that. I'm not one of them.

[Rory]

You just leave the risky test, like, just on red. That's. That's really evil.

[Damaris]

It depends. I've done it to. I've done it to men when I was mad at them. Like, when I was mad at them. Oh, yes. I mean, that video. You do it now because they think, like, this is them making it up to me because I'm mad and I just leave my red for an hour.

[Rory]

If a girl is mad at me and says that, I'm going to immediately think I'm being set up for some.

[Damaris]

Not that. Not that type of mad. Not that type of mad. Where you would think I would leak it or something. Like.

[Rory]

No, not like. I'm just in general. I'll be like, down to, like, when I've been in relationships and she's mad at me and starts cooking and like, yo, you want something? I'm like, what you put in the food? Like, I don't. No. It's a whole different energy.

[Josh]

Right before I got you.

[Rory]

You eat first.

[Josh]

Hey, right before I got here, the marriage. Is it true that you can tell how much a guy likes you by the way he kiss you? Because this girl was telling me, yo, you don't really like me. I was like, why are you saying that? She was like, I could tell by the way you kiss me. And I was like, what?

[Rory]

You're not a passion. How were you.

[Damaris]

Well, how were you kissing her?

[Josh]

I thought I was giving her my best work. I thought I was giving her my best love Jones. You know what I'm saying? Apparently, she felt like I didn't like her at all. I was like, what? What did you mean?

[Rory]

That was the. Is it in? Version of kissing.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, were you, like, pecking? Was there a tongue?

[Josh]

Yeah, it was all of that face touching, peck in public talking, you know, behind closed doors, that type of thing. I think she wanted me to, like, tongue her down at Whole Foods. I mean, I'm not doing that.

[Rory]

You don't do that.

[Damaris]

You don't do the tongue in.

[Josh]

I don't. I don't tongue kiss in public. I'm not doing that.

[Rory]

Grow up.

[Josh]

I'm not doing that. It's just like. It's just too much.

[Damaris]

You ain't like her that much.

[Josh]

No, I like her. But that's just like I. I could. I could be madly in love with you. And I'm not tongue kissing you in public. Like that's just not doing that. Like while we outside standing on the corner waiting for the light to change. I'm tongue you down right here.

[Rory]

What else am I supposed to do?

[Josh]

No, I. I'm not telling you now. I'll kiss you. You know what I'm saying? Kiss you on your neck and on your cheek and you know, pet kiss you on the lips. I'll tongue you down.

[Damaris]

That's probably that.

[Josh]

Well, that's probably why you shouldn't grow down. I'm ready. I'm ready. Ready like the blood is flowing. I'm not going to do that. And then we got to walk to target.

[Damaris]

What we doing?

[Rory]

Like I'm ready to be brick and tar.

[Josh]

No. Hell no. Get me to the house.

[Damaris]

But it's like building that anticipation. Like. Cause you just like how we said the all day date. You have your tongue kissing throughout the all day date. You know when you get home, the panties just sliding off. Like a seal.

[Rory]

All that blue mist.

[Josh]

Thinking of like a seal. Darius, you are such a freak. Like a seal. What's wrong with you?

[Damaris]

I'm just.

[Josh]

Cause only you would only know how. You know Ever you seen the seal slide into the water before? Like you see exactly how they slide. Like Damaris had to study that. Like she knows she studied that.

[Rory]

You know what that reminds me of?

[Josh]

When I had them thongs on that night.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying it builds anticipation. So that's why you're supposed to do things like that in public. Like it's like a I can't wait to get you home type thing. A peck. I'm not thirsty to get home from the peck. Yeah, but like you gotta make me woozy. You gotta make me lightheaded to get you home. I'm just saying like it'll. That's when you're like ready.

[Josh]

That sounds like I might be on at the podium next month. I did not. Lightheaded. Whoa. Like I want you to be very clear headed that.

[Damaris]

No, I'm just saying. So I understand why she would think that. That you don't really like.

[Josh]

But I liked her though. Like I really like that.

[Damaris]

Well, did you explain to her that you're just not that guy?

[Rory]

Cuz my.

[Damaris]

My question before you answer was going to be all Men are different. Some men are not. Like a Rory and tongue kiss her in a party in front of all their friends.

[Josh]

That's what I said. I said, how could you say that? I know guys that don't like girls and they tongue them down and they. They don't like those girls. So that's just like a stupid analogy.

[Damaris]

Cuz if you tongue me down too quickly, I know you don't like me. You just do this way everybody see. Why is your tongue in my mouth like you just met me? Like, please don't. Get it away from me.

[Rory]

I feel like I known you my whole life.

[Josh]

You such a white boy. That's y' all tongue kissing. Mano is y'. All. Y' all love mano. White boys love mono.

[Damaris]

They do.

[Josh]

They catch mono at least every. Every quarter. Yeah.

[Rory]

And then blame it on the weather.

[Josh]

Yeah, Y' all catch mono.

[Rory]

But I mean, I. Yes. All right, I'll play into the joke a bit. Yes, I will tongue kiss early, but, like, my passionate kiss, that. That takes some time. I'm not a whore. What's the difference? What's the difference? Thank you, Baby D. It's a certain face. Face touch, hand hold. It's just, touch your face.

[Damaris]

Touch your face.

[Josh]

Touch your face.

[Rory]

Touch my face. Touching your own face when you making out is touch your face. Touching your face. Like Home Alone.

[Josh]

I've never caressed my own face in my entire life.

[Damaris]

Like, what is it? It's a.

[Josh]

Do it to the basketball is crazy. Do it to the basketball.

[Rory]

We have to draw a line of content. A line needs to be drawn when it comes to content. I'm here to push the boundaries with you guys.

[Damaris]

What do you do? Do you do the chin cup?

[Rory]

Oh, I definitely chimp. Definitely a gentle throat grabbing a C. If she receives that well. And I see if I'm dealing with a real freak.

[Josh]

I thought you.

[Rory]

It's a lot of testing the waters to see what she likes type of time, but it's a lot of hand holding, certain grip, not so much sexual, like, titties trying to go there. Like, we're focused just on making out. Making out is not just to get to me eating your pussy. Like, we're gonna take our time here and make out.

[Josh]

Yeah. I grabbed her throat to make sure her pronouns are.

[Rory]

Do you think?

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

What do you think they would be?

[Josh]

I don't know. We're just gonna check, though.

[Rory]

I think before that, you should maybe grab a handhold down there and see what's going on. Let's go right if that's your journey, I'm not here to judge you. I think.

[Damaris]

Have y'. All.

[Rory]

Oh, they're dead.

[Damaris]

Have y' all listened to don't be Dumb asap? Mm.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know if I liked that reply. Right. Yeah.

[Damaris]

The room got silent as well.

[Josh]

They asked if I listened to it.

[Damaris]

Okay. Did you like it?

[Josh]

I did. I thought the music was really good. I like the energy on there. The production was great. I mean, I'm never gonna really love Rocky's rapping. I don't think that's what you listen to Rocky for, but the music was good. I definitely got some joints on there.

[Damaris]

There's some stuff.

[Josh]

Sauce Walker, his verse on that. That Stop Snitching joint is hard. He went off. I love, like, Sauce Walk his style. Like, he went off. Yeah, like, the album was good, though. I was. I was actually, like, pleasantly surprised at how good I. How much I enjoyed listening to it.

[Damaris]

The music was really a hit.

[Rory]

I got a little bit small. Your flow will probably play outside because.

[Josh]

The music, like, the music is good.

[Rory]

I was quiet because I didn't want to come in here and, like, y' all clown me. I think it's great. Oh, you think it's great. I was so pleasantly surprised. Not that I went in thinking that it was gonna be trash, but I didn't go in with expectations. Maybe the way I'll go into the fall off.

[Josh]

Right.

[Rory]

The product. The first half of this album is incredible. He starts to experiment a little bit in the middle to end, but I'm not even mad at that. And then the end of it is incredible.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I need to go through at least, like, some of the credits who produce this album. Every beat on this is better than any beat I've heard all of last year. Oh, you know, the production on the album.

[Josh]

No, I'm fucking. That's the first thing. Like, I haven't really lived with it enough to really get into, you know, the lyrics and the words like that. But the music and the flows and things like that on the records is definitely, like, the music is, to me, stood out. Like, it sound to me. The album sounds good, and I'm with more.

[Rory]

I never, like, looked at Rocky as, like, some super lyricist. I don't even think he would say that he's. That he's more about making a great record. It's some of the best rapping he's ever done. I love all the raps on it too. This is the best Rocky album probably since the first one.

[Josh]

I feel like, that I'm not just listening to the music. I feel like that. Like, it's definitely the best sound, the best music he's had in a very long time. Without a doubt.

[Rory]

There's not a. Even the experimental shit is great. There's not a whack beat on this project. Everything is flawless production.

[Josh]

All right, idk. You might be tripping with this one, though.

[Rory]

First of all, IDK is my guy. He tweeted Rocky in the new Big Three. Hater. Love it. You my guy. But nah, we with you my guy, man.

[Josh]

Yeah, but nah, you know, you.

[Rory]

I just spoke to idk. I said next time he's in New York, he should come on the show. Nah, Rocky, if you want to get into, like, influence. We've talked about this before, though. Rocky has a lot of kids out here. If you're saying, like, Big Three are strictly influence, and where you see their DNA, you could put Rocky in that type of context.

[Josh]

Well, hold on, hold on.

[Rory]

But a Big Three. No, he's not.

[Josh]

Hold on. Okay, so that's what I say. So who's the new Big Three?

[Damaris]

Also, I think Rocky's been away for too long, and he's had a career for too long to be in the new Big Three. Who would the new Big Three be?

[Rory]

Right? Yeah. I don't know.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

Because I thought people considered the new Big Three to be like, Tyler. Oh, if that's the case, then Rocky and Tyler. Tyler, Travis and like, who? Like Playboy Cardi.

[Rory]

But Playboy Cardi is.

[Josh]

Those. Is all his sons.

[Damaris]

Not Tyler, but definitely the other two.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, Stole your flow is a. Is about Travis being my son.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean.

[Josh]

But I mean, hold on. Because I love Tyler, but I could see a little Rocky influence in Tyler, though.

[Rory]

I always felt like the ASAP crew and Odd Future were perfect, like mirrors of the kids from those cities at that time. Like, ASAP was a perfect. I don't say metaphor, but, like, if you just looked up what Harlem was at that time, those kids would be the picture in the dict. And if you're looking at more of the alternative underground, things are switching from just gangster rap in LA to other shit. That whole Odd Future collective was that they're mirrors of each other in different coasts. So, no, I wouldn't say that they're. Tyler is Rocky's son at all in that regard.

[Josh]

Not his son, but I'm just saying the influence. I could see some of Rocky's influence, I think.

[Rory]

Here's some of Tyler's Influence in the production on this project. I think they're friends that influence each other for sure.

[Josh]

But so what you're saying to me, again, I haven't lived with the album enough yet to really get into the raps like that as far as the lyrics. But music, the music. This is definitely some of the best music that I've heard from Rocky in a very long time. The album sounds really good.

[Rory]

It's. And again, I'm only like three listens in, but I can't think of a. Outside of the clips album, I haven't had like a good in the car album in a long time. This album is perfect for riding in the car. Like if you just need something to put on and it's going to sound good throughout the entire time, no matter what type of speakers you have while you're driving, traffic, highway, anywhere. This is the album for you. It's a perfect driving album. Okay, I know. I think. I think Rocky over delivered on this.

[Josh]

It's.

[Rory]

It's such a good album.

[Josh]

The music is good. I ain't gonna lie. Definitely listen to the music. It's definitely, you know, his best music in a very. In a very long time.

[Rory]

And it's a double disc.

[Josh]

Yeah, it is.

[Damaris]

I love it.

[Josh]

But the second disc is only like. It's like two songs in a video, I think. I think on the second disc, like, so I don't know if it's double.

[Rory]

Disc, but yeah, I'm on Apple music, which it. Between Apple music and Spotify is the prime distribution of the music industry. I see disc one and I see disc two. So now we have to compare fall off versus yo, which dish you like better?

[Josh]

You don't have to do that.

[Rory]

Making double two songs is nuts.

[Josh]

Crazy. But yeah, he got his double. He got his double double cd.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's up there with the ghost.

[Josh]

He got his double. Rocky got his double.

[Damaris]

Now TI Is making a comeback too. How do you guys feel about that? Have you heard it?

[Rory]

I listened to the snippet. As of this recording, there's only been a snippet.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

The snippet sounds great. It sounds really good. I love that. That Ross record that Pharrell did, that kind of just went under the radar because the clips overtook everything. I like that Pharrell is going back and working with. With artists from that era. And I mean, TI Obviously didn't get a start with Pharrell, but Pharrell was. He has some good t. To the masses.

[Damaris]

That song is out, baby.

[Rory]

Oh, it did come out.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Well, I have not heard the full one, but I did love the snippet.

[Damaris]

Okay, we'll check it out. We'll come back and let you guys know how it is.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was thinking when I saw that snippet. It was while I was thinking about all the kids that Rocky had. T. I could have. Grand Hustle could have have been one of the biggest labels of the, like, early 2000 and tens. If things panned out contractually. He found Meek Mill, then Meek ends up going to mmg. He found Travis Scott. Travis Scott was on. Grand Hustle ends up going to good music. Iggy, I'm not trying to make a joke. Let's not act like she ain't have a time if that was played a little bit differently. And Q Tip didn't ruin her career on Twitter. And then she went on only fans. A lot of hypotheticals here. I'm just saying, of. Of the talent, I was ready.

[Josh]

You got at least three more you can name too.

[Rory]

But yeah, I always felt Bob didn't get a fair shake, but definitely had big records. Big, big records. Like Grand Hustle, when you. When you look at it with who they had signed, it's. It's a label that I don't think people bring up ever. And it's like, dude, look at the roster. They did have at one point, eight Ball, and.

[Damaris]

And a lot of them were signed at the same time. 8Ball, MJG, BG, Bob, Chip Diamond, DJ Drama Killer Mike, Meek Mill, OMG, Rich Kids, Travis Scott, Young LA. And the majority of them were signed all at the same time. That's not bad.

[Josh]

But see, that's why it goes back to what I always say about Wayne. When you're an artist and you're stealing, like. Cause at that time, TI Was still in his prime. It's hard to have a label and to really focus and get other talent off like that. So for Wayne to be able to do what he did with Nicki and Drake, which is why I always praise Wayne for that. He had to completely remove himself. If you heard of record. Cause Rory, you know how this shit go. You hear record from an artist you signed to. First thing. If I'm in my prom, first thing I'm saying, I need that. I gotta get on that. Putting that on my shit. Your artist still gets the look. Cause he's on the song. But it's like, I'm the main character here, and I'm still in my prime. So, you know, TI had all of these talents, but at the same time, TI Was Focused on TI as an artist. At that time, Wayne was at the height of his. Was in his prime. He signed Nikki and Drake and a whole bunch of other acts and he removed himself completely and was like, nah, let them get off. Like, I don't like. It's daytime. A lot of artists are not doing that. And that's why probably a lot of these acts that are could have been, I mean, aboard and jg, even when TI had them, they were already legendary.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was like when June had.

[Josh]

Signed, they were already legacies at that point. But you know, the other guys, the Meeks, and we don't know what happened with that. I'm sure he spoke on it. I just can't remember.

[Rory]

He has spoke. I forgot to.

[Josh]

Yeah, I just can't remember what happened.

[Rory]

With that Travis Scott. I even think, like, TI did the noble thing with Travis Scott. I think the Meek thing was he was like announced but not signed on paperwork, so it was a little easier. I'm pretty sure Travis Scott was signed, signed. And TI just did the honorable thing. Like, if you don't want to be here and Kanye is like, which is your idol too.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, go be great. Yeah. What you want to do here?

[Damaris]

Oh, a lot of it, they said, was due to TI's legal troubles and incarceration, he was unable to really do anything. And I'm sure he wasn't the only person on the label that had those issues.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm just go ahead and guess. Some other. Had some legal issues on the label.

[Damaris]

No, I mean, like I'm saying, during TI's legal issues, he couldn't. Yeah. During TI's legal issues, he couldn't help anybody on his label. Everything was trying to survive.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, I get that. But yeah, I mean, again, had that, you know, TI with all the legal stuff he was going through, had that not happen. I think Grand Hustle, the label looks a little. A little different. Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, come on. You think Travis Scott.

[Rory]

No, I'm saying it's managed differently. He focuses more on Meek and Travis.

[Josh]

Like, yeah, for sure. No worry about mall.

[Rory]

I saw your 2026 vision board and the number one thing on there was upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro. And just huge letters.

[Josh]

On your vision board, it's happening.

[Rory]

Just plastered on your wall. It's happening. But I know in that vision board, you were very worried about the traffic or getting to the store to transfer all your data. That was just crazy. On your vision board, like, how will I transfer the data?

[Josh]

I had data on my vision board Good news though.

[Rory]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

There's a new movie. I forgot the name of it. Josh, send help with Rachel McAdams. It feels like I didn't watch it yet, but it feels like this is along the lines of how castaway. She's on a flight with co workers flight goes down on a deserted island. You know the story of course. And now she has to kind of like, you know, they have to survive until help. Help arrives. I wanted to watch it cause the trailer was dope though. Her boss was a complete asshole to her and naturally they go down on a flight. Naturally they go down on a flight together. And now like it appears that her boss has to depend more on her saving their lives.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

You know what I mean? So I'm gonna watch that though. Cause I like the trailer. So what you were saying, like. Yeah, the wilderness. No, the hatchet. Flight goes down boy in the woods. Like yes, that story is always old. But it's always interesting to see people, how they would survive under those conditions.

[Rory]

Do you think if you were ever in that situation that y' all would end up fucking like, do you think you'd get horny in that.

[Josh]

In that.

[Rory]

That time?

[Josh]

No. Like, if it's our lives.

[Rory]

We're all human beings, man.

[Josh]

No, we are, but if. If we're like we're having to survive. We don't have any food, we don't have any drinking water, we don't have my. I'm not gonna get home.

[Rory]

I the most when I was broke, man.

[Josh]

Yeah, but no, that's. No, no, Rory, that's different. You being.

[Rory]

I'M trying to put it to a whole nother degree. Yeah.

[Josh]

Like with you being broke and then like starving deserted on an island. It's. It's completely different. Like. No, you're not.

[Rory]

All right. I mean, typically, how relationships form, like trauma bonding experiences. We're going through a similar thing. Like, I can see you starting to, you know, want to. Because I've even told you in office settings, office settings are like jail. A woman that you would not typically find attractive if you have a 9 to 5 job, she starts to become more attractive.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You see a woman now Heighten this times 10.

[Josh]

Yeah, but that's not survival though, in the office. This is life or death we talking about.

[Rory]

Okay. Do you think you'd ever beat off if you were on a dessert? Like, do you think Tom Hanks, if that was real, like, jerked off at all during.

[Josh]

Passed away?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I could see him looking at Wilson one night and getting freaky.

[Rory]

Anyone that thinks the immature conversation. I think you're immature because this is a humanly bodily function that keeps the population moving. It's. It's wired in our DNA. I think I would 100% beat off.

[Josh]

A few times on a deserted island.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Josh]

By yourself.

[Rory]

All right, I'll ask you this. How many days in do you think you. You'd beat off? Day four.

[Josh]

I don't think I would at all, bro.

[Rory]

Now you would.

[Josh]

Put some coconuts on the tree and just. That's. Now that's the new Wilson. That's Wilma.

[Rory]

I was about to say open Wilson's mouth. Throw a little coconut oil in there.

[Josh]

Yo, that is sick, man.

[Rory]

No, but, but really, I feel like if two people of the same age. Yeah. You probably end up fucking.

[Josh]

No way.

[Rory]

It would be very irresponsible though, because if you got pregnant, you're.

[Josh]

This is what I'm. I just don't think. I think y' all underestimating being like stuck on a deserted island.

[Rory]

I think you're underestimating once it becomes normalcy, that your body would kick into whatever it does usually. And at some point you're gonna have to nut.

[Josh]

Okay. Becomes more horny because it wants. If you're gonna die situation, you have to procreate. Well, well, I've. I said this the other day. I said trauma makes you horny. And y' all laughed at me.

[Rory]

So.

[Josh]

Yes, I agree. But life at you.

[Rory]

I got a kid out of it.

[Josh]

But like being on a deserted island, no food, no drinking water, like you're thinking of, like, you're scared. You're like, okay, in panic.

[Rory]

All right, so after Tom Hanks finds all the packages and they go through that whole thing, and then like, four years later, and he's got the beard, he throws the spear from across the island and it lands on the fish.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. At that point, he's.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's jerking it with two hands.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, at that point. Yeah, you figured it out. You obviously survived. You know how to feed yourself. You know how to. Like, at that point. Yes, you definitely can. So AI, even though you don't really.

[Rory]

Agree with AI, not with horny questions.

[Josh]

AI says yes, it is highly probable that you would naturally experience sexual desire, quote, get horny on a deserted island, as sexual drive is a fundamental human instinct. So, yeah, AI feels like you definitely, at some point will, you know, loneliness. If you are completely alone, your body may still experience hormonal urges, and the human need for touch or release may manifest.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I'm telling you, if you're on an island with a woman, I don't care what she looks like, y' all will probably end up fucking. Yeah, that's two straight people. That's happened.

[Josh]

Once you get to the point where, you know we're gonna survive, like, we can feed ourselves. We can. I think, after that point. But the first initial plane goes down, second day on the island. No fucking way, bro. There's no way way. You're. You're a maniac.

[Rory]

Imagine setting the tone that way.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Day one, hand on the knee.

[Josh]

It's just us. Like, I've been waiting to get you alone. Like, what? You know, that's.

[Rory]

We don't know. All right, but if you don't know if you're gonna survive, I might want to get, like, one last off. If I'm sitting there like, both of us are city kids. We're retarded. We have no idea what we're gonna do out here. We might as well fuck while we have something in our stomachs and then just go die in the woods.

[Josh]

Yeah, because that's what I'm saying. Well, after you have sex, as soon as you are done, every decent person wants a snack. You want something after sex, like, you don't have nothing. You just out here on the beach with salt water surrounding you, and just.

[Rory]

Like, you probably find there's probably tobacco on those type of islands. Nice little sig.

[Josh]

Yeah, but you gotta eat. You talking about you see you.

[Rory]

That kills appetite.

[Josh]

Yeah. Nah, you tripping, man. But I think once you figure out how to survive.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I feel like at Some point, probably during our lifetime, there will be a D day. I think we're just. We're just in that direction at this point. If you watch the news, you're the first thing you're probably gonna think when they tell us the date, be like, all right, who am I gonna. That's gonna cross your mind. So to think that wouldn't happen after your FedEx plane fall, like, yeah.

[Josh]

I don't know, man. One day to eat it. Josh is super horny.

[Rory]

Imagine. Imagine crashing with somebody and then right before you're about to be like, yo, when's the last time you got tested?

[Josh]

Nah, Come on. You're gonna take this no matter what.

[Rory]

As somebody that has had chlamydia. It would suck to be on a deserted island. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. I don't even want no penicillin. Oh, God. I don't even want to know what that's about.

[Rory]

Did any guys watch Lost? Lost, the show? I never came out.

[Josh]

A few years ago, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's, like, one of the most popular shows of all time. And I like not to spoil it. I never watched it. I think they all end up just, like, being ghosts. Like, when the plane crashed, they were actually all dead. Did anyone during Lost, like, can we look that up? There's no way they had, like, 12 seasons and nobody on that island.

[Josh]

Oh, definitely. I'm pretty sure there was, like, sex scenes on there.

[Rory]

Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Well, all right. That answers our question.

[Josh]

Yeah, well, but they're dead.

[Rory]

If. If Lord of the Flies. If they got older, there would have been a lot of gay sex for sure.

[Josh]

What was that. What was that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio? Was it the Beach?

[Rory]

The beach, yeah.

[Josh]

Love that movie.

[Rory]

Classic love. I say classic movie. Yeah, I'd say classic movie. Sick movie, but classic that. I don't want to, like, jump out there without looking at every Leo movie, but that might be a top five Leo movie.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And that's saying something. The beach is super underrated. That was his Britney Spears. Oops, I did it again. Like, to get him out of that kid role.

[Josh]

Teenager.

[Rory]

Yeah, that.

[Damaris]

This.

[Rory]

This was his rated R Rihanna album, for sure.

[Josh]

You remember that one, Josh.

[Rory]

Yo. The Beach.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Watch the Beach.

[Josh]

Great movie.

[Rory]

Have you watched the Matt Damon and Ben Affleck?

[Josh]

The Rip Rip? Yes, I watched the Rip on Netflix. Did watch it the other night. You didn't see it yet?

[Rory]

I have not seen it yet.

[Josh]

Good movie.

[Rory]

I. I will see it by the time we record again. I did watch the Joe Rogan interview with the both of Them, bro. I have a man crush on both these guys.

[Josh]

You want to hang out with them?

[Rory]

Absolutely. I have a huge man crush on. On Ben and Matt. They're. They got a lot of. Of like trying to pretend to be the blue collar. I really think they're those down to earth guys. Like, I really do think they're as cool as they. They. They come across.

[Josh]

Are they related or just like close friends from.

[Rory]

They grew up together in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Went to high school together. Like, okay, but this is also one of those things, like, we talk about what's in the water with. With certain people. The fact that these two childhood friends both became a listers. Like, started out together, writing together, goodwill hunting. This is an insane story of what both of them have accomplished together and separately.

[Josh]

Better actor Benomat better act.

[Rory]

I. Matt, Matt, Matt. But.

[Damaris]

But I.

[Rory]

It's closer than I think people give credit. I think the easy answer would be Matt. But I think Ben in the second half of both their careers has caught up. In the beginning, it was definitely Matt and it was. That's even why Matt played the genius in Good Will Hunting and he played the meathead guy. But it's. It's close, man. Ben is underrated as an actor. Better filmography now, that one is.

[Josh]

Ben is Batman, bro.

[Rory]

He's Jason Bourne.

[Josh]

Batman or Jason Bourne.

[Rory]

There's other Batmans. There's only one Jason Bourne.

[Josh]

The Departed. Yeah. The town.

[Rory]

All right. Yeah. Well, Josh pulls that up. I do recommend everyone watch the Joe Rogan interview with both of them. Like, like, it's just a really cool interview watching two people that have been in this industry since the 80s of how they've adapted to streaming and, you know, they're also writers, directors, producers. Like, these aren't just pretty faces with a good filmography. Like, these guys have been in every single aspect of the business. I love that they also are the first movie with. With rip. If the movie is successful, everyone that was on the staff gets paid more. It's the first time they're trying this out. Like, if you held a boom mic and this shit is successful, you get more money, which I think is perfect because a lot of these guys will work with the same DP their whole career and that guy will get his fee and there's no back end on anything. And they were also saying it just makes the crew want to work harder for what they're doing at the time. Everyone is way more focused because if we make this better, we all get to profit from it, which I think should be in the music business, that's.

[Josh]

Such a great blueprint.

[Rory]

Like, you know, again, as much as these guys get shit of, like, trying to pretend to be the blue, I really do think that they mean the things that they say. I really think these are good guys that are super creative. Now, the Matt versus Ben shit, this is what Swizz and Tim need to do. We'll get into Hit Boy and Mike Will made it on our next episode. Yeah, but Matt versus Ben, this is Ray versus Ghost. Yeah. Like, yeah, this one is tough.

[Josh]

Starting out with Good Will Hunting is just unfair, though, because that's just, like, such a classic movie, you know? Saving Private Ryan. I forgot he was in that.

[Rory]

Well, I just want to start with. With what's funny in Matt Damon's filmography. Being an extra in Field of Dreams is hilarious. Just out the gate, you are extra dreams. Saving Private Ryan. Does Ben have a better movie than Saving Private Ryan? Does anyone have a movie better than Saving Private Ryan? And Matt, again, is. Is really the second half of it's un. Armageddon is a classic, and Ben was the star with Bruce Willis and a. A crew of actors that are all a listers. Was. That was Michael Bay, right? One of the biggest movies ever. Yeah. Who. Who did the soundtrack? Aerosmith did the soundtrack. Like, we're talking about, like, one of the biggest movies that's ever existed. Is it better than Armageddon?

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[Rory]

It'S like Saving Private Ryan is one of the greatest movies ever.

[Josh]

No, you're right. I'm not arguing that, but I'm saying so is Armageddon. So I'm saying Armageddon is a bigger movie.

[Rory]

All right, Pearl harbor verse. Saving Private Ryan I think, would be a more fair versus. And while Saving Private Ryan is better, I do think Pearl harbor, despite trying to do too much with the love story, is an underrated movie. Yeah, Pearl harbor is a fucking classic. They went nuts in that. Where do you put it?

[Josh]

I don't know. I think I'm going Saving Private Ryan over Pearl harbor, though.

[Rory]

Same.

[Josh]

Yeah, I like Pearl harbor, and I probably would actually watch Pearl harbor before watching Saber Pryor Ryan if it was on. But when you look at Saving Private, it's a better movie than Pearl Harbor.

[Rory]

Hot take. And I'm fine with the flak. I'll give for it. I think the Town is better than every Jason Bourne movie. I like Jason. Don't get me wrong. I. I just. I. They're great. They're. They're classics. I. I just prefer I could watch the Town any I'll watch the Town on TV with commercials. Yeah. Jason Bourne. I had. There can't be ads on a Jason Bourne movie. Or. I'm not. I'm not watching that. Yeah, I'll watch the Town with commercials. Yeah.

[Josh]

That's how you know if a movie is really good. If I watch it with commercials.

[Rory]

I watch Shawshank Redemption, which takes six hours with commercials.

[Josh]

You going to be there for two days watching that?

[Rory]

Which I. I know is. Is a hot take, but that's actually how I feel also.

[Josh]

Gone Girl, underrated movie.

[Rory]

If we're getting into the range of Ben, I don't know where does that. That put him over. Over our guy Matt. Yeah.

[Josh]

Me personally, I'm taking Ben Affleck. I think Ben Affleck is a better actor.

[Rory]

But then you get into the Departed. Departed. Trump's Gone Girl.

[Josh]

The Departed or the Town.

[Rory]

Departed.

[Josh]

Really? No way. The Departed over the Town.

[Rory]

They're both Boston, they're both crime. But they are different movies.

[Josh]

They're different. Yeah. No, I'm going to town. I'm sorry. I'm the town over the Departed.

[Rory]

Leo. Jack Nicholson.

[Josh]

No, no, no, don't start.

[Rory]

Jamal Anderson.

[Josh]

Great, great lineup, great cast, but we just talking about the movie.

[Rory]

Mark Wahlberg.

[Josh]

The Town is.

[Rory]

The Town just has so much great. Like it's the perfect sequence of action where it doesn't go too over the top, where this just feels like. Like an unrealistic complete mess. They picked the perfect moments for the action and dialogue balance. The Departed, though, like, the part is up there with the score in a Scorsese list. At the end of the day.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm still going to town. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

I would see, I would put the Departed more so with something like the Ocean series because it has a cast of seven A listers that you're dealing with. Like Ocean's Eleven. Everybody's a superstar. That to me is more a comparison than the Town is just a underrated, amazing crime movie.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Rory]

At the end of the day, they.

[Josh]

Don'T have the Departed as a classic. It says other notables. For me, I did. Depart is a classic movie.

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