Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 12/8

Summary

New Rory & Mal – "Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 12/8"

Release Date: December 14, 2025
Podcast: New Rory & Mal (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)

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Episode Overview

This "Best Of" episode compiles highlights from the week of December 8, as the hosts bring their signature humor, candid takes, and unfiltered debates on viral moments, celebrity misadventures, and the wild world of internet fame. The show pivots between dissecting trending pop culture, exploring the blurred lines of content creation, and sharing personal memories with a mix of nostalgia and irreverence.

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Major Discussion Points & Key Segments

1. Busta Rhymes vs. the TikTok Creator at Art Basel

(03:48–09:56)

• The Incident: A TikTok creator at Art Basel asked Busta Rhymes for a photo and called him "Tracy Morgan," clearly or perhaps playfully—leading to Busta's stern reaction.

  • Hosts debate whether it was a trolling attempt or an honest confusion.
  • Discussion on respect for legends and the challenges of viral content culture.

• Impersonation in Content: The hosts reflect on influencers who blur lines between jokes and disrespect:

  • Host 1: "I like what Busta did, cuz I do think these young kids can't just run around and get away with disrespecting people that have put in so much iconic work. You need to show them some form of respect." (04:22)
  • Quin: Busta and Tracy Morgan only resemble each other superficially; social media stunts often cross the line.

• Personal Analogies: The hosts swap stories about being called other celebrities (Paul Wall, J. Prince).

  • Mal: "If a white TikToker walks up to me like, 'Yo, J. Prince, you changed my life,' what you gonna say?" (07:26)

• Content Creation Annoyances: The exhaustion celebrities feel with always being on display for viral moments.

  • Host 2: "People don't ask for autographs no more. People want content with you. It's not—don't sign shit. I don't want Buster's autograph. Please, get this fucking 20 second clip, so I can go viral on TikTok real quick." (10:19)

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2. Streaming Culture, Kai Cenat, and the Streamy Awards

(16:19–24:56)

• Streamy Awards Recap: Shout outs to BlackBoy Max and Kai Cenat for their wins.

• The Marathon Stream Dilemma:

  • Praising the mental fortitude required for 24/7 streaming, especially at Kai Cenat’s level.
  • Host 2: "I always thought, like, when Kai was doing all that, I was like, how is this guy—how is he dealing with this mentally?... I just don't know how somebody is able to do that." (17:18)

• Fan Engagement: Viewers are just as wild for sticking through marathon streams.

  • Host 1: "Shout out to the fans. You guys are watching that the entire time, which is fucking crazy." (18:11)

• Jokes & Stand-up Flops at the Awards:

  • Mal gives props to Lil James for calling out a tasteless Diddy joke aimed at Kai Cenat during the awards.
    • Mal: "People gotta understand like jokes—stand up comedy ain’t for everybody. Off-the-cuff comedy ain’t for everybody." (20:57)
  • Funny on stream ≠ Funny on stage; the guys remember Twitter comedians who flopped on TV.
  • Discussion about racial dynamics and context in comedy, sparked by the joke about Kai and Diddy.

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3. Matt Barnes’ AI Catfishing Extortion Scandal

(30:56–41:35)

• The Story: Matt Barnes allegedly sent $5,000/month to someone running a fake AI model’s profile under threat of a public pregnancy claim, when in fact he never met them in person.

  • Host 1: "How do you get extorted by a robot?" (30:54)
  • The hosts question the plausibility—Barnes’ panic likely stemmed from prior public relationship issues.
  • Confusion as to why you’d pay up for a claim by someone you never met.
    • Host 1: "Wouldn't he know that this was fake because he never fucked the robot?" (33:08)

• Catfishing in the Modern Era:

  • Others share stories of Instagram models/accounts managed by partners siphoning money from thirsty fans.
  • Referencing Manti Te’o’s infamous fake girlfriend saga.

• Lawsuit Woes:

  • Matt Barnes is suing infamous blogger Tasha K for spreading the AI extortion story; debate over defamation.
    • Mal: "That's defamation. That wasn't true...as a journalist, you didn't do your research."
    • Tasha K’s bankruptcy means unlikely financial outcome for Barnes.
  • Tasha K’s long history with celebrity lawsuits (notably Cardi B).

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4. Diddy Documentary Fallout and 50 Cent’s Involvement

(43:27–51:02)

• More Damning Footage?: 50 Cent claims over 100 hours of unreleased, even more incriminating footage relating to Diddy exist, far beyond what appeared in the "Reckoning" docuseries.

  • Host 2: "For 50 to say the footage that's on there...it leaves no more room for people to say, this is false—if you see the rest of the footage, it's pretty clear cut." (44:14)
  • Speculation as to why 50 hasn't released it (rights, quality, more interviews needed, legalities).

• Snitching Debate:

  • The crew pushes back on critics calling the doc "snitching."
    • Host 1: "I also don't fully understand snitching rules. I just feel like telling about somebody abusing women isn't snitching." (49:27)
  • Everything in the doc is based on public depositions and court records.

• Diddy in Jail:

  • Talks of Diddy (Puff) being spotted in prison with Sebastian Telfair, and how celebrities leverage influence for more comfortable jail stints.
  • Effects of incarceration on artists rumored to struggle with substance abuse (reference to Young Thug).

• Documentary Bias:

  • Mal and Host 1 debate whether Puff or 50 could ever deliver a biopic or series that truly gives a fair account; both doubt it.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You need to show them some form of respect… but he kind of looks like Tracy Morgan."
  — Host 1, on the Busta Rhymes incident (04:22)

• "I liked how Buster reacted. I get it. I liked it."
  — Host 1, on defending Busta Rhymes for checking the TikTok troll (04:58)

• "Everybody wants content with you. It's not—don't sign shit. I don't want Buster's autograph. Please, get this fucking 20 second clip, so I can go viral on TikTok real quick."
  — Host 2, on the shift from autographs to viral moments (10:19)

• "Stand up comedy ain't for everybody. Off-the-cuff comedy ain't for everybody."
  — Mal, criticizing bad jokes at the Streamy Awards (20:57)

• "How do you get extorted by a robot?"
  — Host 1, baffled by Matt Barnes' ordeal (30:54)

• "That's defamation. That wasn't true...you didn't do your research and you're spreading misinformation."
  — Mal, on Tasha K’s reporting (42:00)

• "If you see the rest of the footage, there will be no more—there will be no more 'paint this narrative.' It's pretty clear cut."
  — Host 2, quoting 50 Cent on unreleased Diddy documentary footage (44:14)

• "I also don't fully understand snitching rules. I just feel like telling about somebody abusing women isn't snitching."
  — Host 1, (49:27)

• "I'm Diddied out right now."
  — Host 1, expressing fatigue over the endless Diddy discourse (47:22)

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Other Memorable Moments

• Autograph Nostalgia: The hosts reminisce about a time when getting an autograph was exciting, with Mal sharing stories about acquiring Styles P’s autograph growing up and regretting not asking Kobe Bryant for one. (13:01–14:18)
• Meta Commentary: Constant jabs at the cyclical nature of viral drama and content, with the hosts always bringing conversations back around to their own lives or generational differences.

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Final Thoughts

This episode shows Rory, Mal, and friends at their best—hopping between viral curiosities, pop culture analysis, and self-deprecating humor, all while keeping it real about celebrity, fan culture, new media, and social dynamics. The banter is sharp, relatable, and self-aware, mixing outrage, laughter, and critique in classic New Rory & Mal style.

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Note: Timestamps refer to segments as per the transcript for those who want to jump right to specific highlights!

Transcript

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[Host 2]

The volume.

[Mal]

Y' all been laughing at this, so just get into it.

[Host 1]

Because you couldn't even say it. Our brother in Christ, Mr. Busta Rhymes.

[Host 2]

Yo. All right, go ahead. Intro, intro, Intro to topic. Go ahead, man.

[Host 1]

It was a TikTok creator, I believe. This was at Art Basel. Yes.

[Host 2]

This was in front of Liv.

[Host 1]

I believe that wanted to take a photo with Busta Rhymes. Who wouldn't? Busta Rhymes is an absolute legend. And he went on to say, thank you, Tracy Morgan, for taking the photo in which Busta reacted to that off, off, off the color remark in a certain way.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Here. All right, I have two views on this. I like what Buster did, cuz I do think these young kids can't just run around and get away with disrespecting people that have put in so much iconic work. You need to show them some form of respect. With that said, he kind of looks like Tracy Morgan. Listen, man, maybe that kid made an honest mistake and was not trolling.

[Host 2]

Listen, man, listen, listen, listen, listen. And I get it. Listen.

[Host 1]

A lot of sweater.

[Host 2]

Listen. A lot of these influences when you walk up on certain people playing these games.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Of calling them, you know, somebody that they're not. I get it.

[Host 1]

I liked how Buster reacted. I get it. I liked it.

[Host 2]

I Get it?

[Mal]

But in this case, he probably honestly thought he was Tracy Morgan.

[Host 2]

Have you seen Tracy Morgan? Like, when he leaving, like, a Knicks game? Like, when he got his jewelry on. And, like, when Tracy's in that bag.

[Mal]

Tracy. Tracy in.

[Host 2]

Yeah. If you never met Busta Rhymes and you seen Tracy Morgan leaving the Knick game, you might think that that's Tracy Morgan standing in front of Liv. Like. But I do think that the dude was playing, you know, playing games. I do think he was doing that.

[Host 1]

And Busta, who we know that, you know, is in crazy shape. Sometimes his weight fluctuates like the rest of us. Some months we just chilling, and that belly comes back with that sweater and that specific belly. I want to shoot this TikTok creator, like, some type of belly.

[Host 2]

Listen, man, it's not that. Listen.

[Host 1]

Identical.

[Mal]

I'm just saying, a.

[Host 1]

You know, I'd love to kill a white TikTok creator.

[Host 2]

They could be brothers. That could be uncles. They could be a lot. They could be really.

[Host 1]

They are drastically different in height, though. Like.

[Host 2]

But that's what I mean. That's the craziest part. If you never met Busta, though, you don't know that. If you never met Tracy, you don't know how tall they are. People just. Baby D just told us they think she's six 1, 215 pounds. So, I mean, it's the same for Tracy Morgan and Busta Rhymes. Like, you don't know how tall these people are, but it's not too far off to say that they look alike. They do look alike, but I understand Buster's. Now, do we think Buster was. Do we think Buster was upset because it was disrespectful or because he heard that before?

[Host 1]

I think it was a mixture of both. Because I will say, sometimes when people make jokes contrary to people's belief, I actually do have pretty thick skin. And I don't care that much. Sometimes when you say a joke that is really true, I get a little upset.

[Host 2]

That's when it. Especially if it's a stranger.

[Host 1]

You don't have to say that out loud.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, if it's a stranger. Like, if it's the homies you like. All right, they called me that before.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But if it's some random little white kid with a fucking camera walking up, told my, yo, what's up, Tracy? It's like, all right, fam.

[Mal]

That I would have died laughing, I ain't gonna lie. Like, how can you not laugh? That's funny.

[Host 1]

If I was with Busta and I heard that I'd start laughing for sure.

[Host 2]

Yeah, 100%. You gotta laugh. It's funny. But I get. I understand Busta's frustration. Like, don't be trying to use me to make content things like that. I get that part of it.

[Host 1]

That's why I like it. He said, camera's down. Like, he.

[Host 2]

I totally get that part of it.

[Host 1]

He was stern and respectful in his response.

[Mal]

So if a white tiktoker walk up the mall and be like, yo, J. Prince, you changed my life, what you gonna say?

[Host 2]

I'm laughing.

[Host 1]

How does a white TikTok.

[Host 2]

No, I don't give a fuck about that type of shit. You know, I'm not laughing.

[Host 1]

He kept the tiktoker safe in Houston.

[Host 2]

Yeah, man. You know me. I laugh at shit like that. I don't. I don't care about shit like that.

[Host 1]

Well, you know, I watched that and of course, I had to make it about myself. I felt pussy. Should I have checked that girl on the Rock the Bells cruise that called you? Ma called me Paul Wall.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 2]

No, no. She gotta laugh at that.

[Host 1]

You gotta laugh. I laughed really hard. That was the funniest thing ever.

[Host 2]

But I understand Busta, like, because, you know that kid was trying to create content.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So I understand that. And I feel like Busta knew that that's what he was trying to do. It wasn't about what he said, it was why he said it. Like, you trying to create this content, this viral moment. So I'm gonna give you a viral moment. I'm gonna talk to you. I'm gonna check you. Still gonna go viral, you know what I'm saying? It probably went more viral than it would have if Busta would have just laughed at.

[Host 1]

Wouldn't have went viral at all.

[Host 2]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, I'm gonna give you a viral moment, but don't play with me like that. Like, stop. Don't. Don't play with me like that. I'm not one of those people to play with. Understand it. But it was funny bus. Like, we love you, but that was funny.

[Host 1]

Well, now I feel like this tiktoker is gonna make it his. His life's work to wait outside the Garden for Tracy Morgan.

[Host 2]

Bust.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you'll bust a bus.

[Host 2]

I'll bust him back. If he.

[Host 1]

If he wants to double down on his content creation, he gotta get a video.

[Host 2]

That's what he would have to do. He has to get a video with Tracy Morgan now. He has to. There's no, that has to be his next goal. Stand outside the Garden, wait for Tracy Morgan. Get a video with Tracy Morgan. Cause Tracy, he stopped and take pictures with everybody. So that's sure.

[Host 1]

Fucking mayor of New York.

[Host 2]

Yeah. And I'm sure Tracy Morgan by now has seen that clip. So.

[Host 1]

But I felt bad for Buster after. Cause then they. Another video resurfaced where I actually felt bust was a little unfair to one gentleman that was asking him questions. He flipped out on someone else. Like, you could see it was in the same area, had the same fit on. And the kid was showing nothing but love but bust of like he was ready to fight.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Host 1]

I felt all right. I understand you're upset, but you've been linked. Like you've been drinking a little bit. It's been a long day. It's hot, you're in salmon. Like, I can see how you could be irritable. But that kid was showing love. He wasn't even. He wasn't being an asshole.

[Host 2]

Yeah. But you know what it is? A lot of the times people don't understand, man. Like celebrities and things like that. And they out in public spaces. There is a thing. I was just like, now everybody's trying to get these content moments, these viral moments. And it's like sometimes, you know, they just not, you know, they might be real shit going on in Buster's life right now. Where he ain't for the jokes.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And he's not for the games. And here you come with your Canon and you trying to create this fucking. This content. And I just don't feel like being a piece of. Not even that.

[Host 1]

You just putting fucking phone in my face, like.

[Host 2]

All right, well, the phone is cool. If you to actually take a picture.

[Host 1]

Ask. I'm saying some people take a picture. Especially buses a thousand times more famous. So I know he has phones put in his face. And I do. I know he does.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

That shit is kind of fucking annoying.

[Host 2]

Yeah. But I mean, you know, you gotta expect that. That's part of the gig, I guess. When you a celebrity and you're out in public, you gotta expect that some people are gonna see you, they're gonna want to talk to you, get a video with you. People don't ask for autographs no more. People want. They want content with you. They want a video with you. It's not. Don't sign shit. I don't want Buster's.

[Mal]

Don't sign shit.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I don't want Buster's autographing. Please get this fucking 20 second clip, so I can go viral on TikTok real quick. Like, I don't need your autograph. That's what the game is now.

[Host 1]

That's what's just so funny of, like, that was a thing for so long to prove that you were around somebody, a celebrity, a famous athlete, they had to put their signature on something so you could be like, yo, I really just met Roger Clemens.

[Host 2]

Prove it here.

[Host 1]

Like, the concept of autographs is fucking wild.

[Host 2]

It's crazy.

[Host 1]

But then if you think about it, I mean, that is the most authentic thing you can do. It's how we even like our government works. How I bought my house. I had to sign it. It wasn't just the money. I guess the autograph does mean more than anything.

[Host 2]

It depends, though. Like, if you just getting like. I remember my mom, years ago, she was at some dinner and I forgot who signed, like, the handkerchief that my mom had at her table. I think it was like, it was somebody played for the Knicks as a kid. I was like, oh, shit. Like, that's dope. But as I get older, I was looking at that shit. Like, how do I know that? That was really like, it's just a. Now, if it's a basketball, if it's a poster, it's like, it's a little different if I'm getting that signed by the player or, you know, the team. But if it's just like a random. If it's a paper towel with a signature, the waiter could have signed that. Yeah. How would I know? And then you have the authenticators that look at the signature like, yep, that's him. How did you get this job?

[Host 1]

First of all, this sounds like the.

[Host 2]

Plot to Sandlot, but at least it was a baseball. At least that's what I'm saying. When it's that, it's different. A paper towel. Come on, fam, get that out my face. As a kid.

[Host 1]

I don't want to see a paper towel. Was crazy.

[Host 2]

Yeah, you mom, you couldn't find anything else, like, handkerchief. Okay.

[Host 1]

That's why. And I'm not laughing at your man, but he even brought it up in his diss record. The fact that Drake bought a Pusha T mic off ebay that was signed, like, duh. Anybody could have signed that microphone.

[Host 2]

Yeah, but I think they have to go through again.

[Host 1]

They have to authenticate it at that time on ebay. I don't know.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

I think that at that time, you could just do whatever.

[Host 2]

That was your mic. That was your.

[Host 1]

Also. That's such a weird Thing to do, too. Like, imagine just having an ebay account. Like, what do I want to sell? You know what? Let me go buy a mic and put a right Pusha T. And you put Pusha T on while he wasn't solo. It was just the clips.

[Host 2]

Like, oh, my God. Do y' all have autographs? Like, y' all still have autographs?

[Mal]

Yeah, I got Stiles autograph.

[Host 2]

Stiles was just here.

[Mal]

I know, but my daddy got it for me out of a salmon manila envelope.

[Host 2]

A salmonella envelope, manila. Oh, I'm about to say you should throw that out. Like, you should probably talk.

[Mal]

He got me Styles autograph when I was really young.

[Host 1]

Where did he run him? Like, into him at Kinko.

[Mal]

He ran. He ran into him in New York somewhere, and just.

[Host 1]

That's what he had.

[Host 2]

He was a Locks fan, like, growing up. He was a Styles fan.

[Mal]

Word. Upstate. We grew up on, like, that type of music. Jadakiss is, like, our king. Like, how. How New York City feels about, like, Jay. That's how we feel about Jadakiss.

[Host 2]

That is so interesting. But why is that, though?

[Mal]

I don't know. But Jada always show love to the town, too. Like, he. He used to come and, like, perform, like, a lot. Like, Jada always was like, that. We. We fuck with Jada. He heavy.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

The. The Locks definitely hit the circuit of the northeast. Whereas, like, HOV may just do Boston, New York, Philly, D.C. i think the Locks was hitting every small city in New York. They was do. Come on. All of Connecticut is the same way. Connecticut. Jadicus is the God.

[Host 2]

There's only one autograph I regret not asking for.

[Host 1]

Like, Serena Williams.

[Host 2]

Yeah, well, that one, too. Not Kobe. I regret not asking for Kobe's.

[Mal]

I can understand.

[Host 1]

That'd be one of the few. Yeah. That I'd be like, damn, why didn't I do it?

[Host 2]

But it was like, it was too intimate of. Because y' all know Trevor. A reason. One of my best friends, we. When he. They was playing with the Knicks, they came. Well, no, he's playing with the Lakers, and they came to play the Knicks, and we all went out one night, and Cole was.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you can't.

[Host 2]

Cole was out with us, and it was like, I can't ask Cole. Like, it was too intimate, too personal. It's like, bro, like, you with Trev. That's my boy. Like, me asking for autograph in that moment would have been crazy.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But I do regret that I'm still want. Trev got, like, a jersey, some sneakers sign. I think I'm stealing one from Trev, though.

[Host 1]

Tell us about your night on the town with the goat. What's his outside swag? Life outside.

[Host 2]

We went to. I think it was Mansion or M2.

[Host 1]

Showing your age.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it was one of those clubs that's no longer there. And it was. The security was crazy. Like nobody could get in the Section.

[Host 1]

What year was this?

[Host 2]

2010, maybe 2011.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Something like that. It was right before they won. Which year did Trev win the ring? Was it 09? Trevor? Whatever year they won the ring. It was that the year before that, I think.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

So, yeah, we went to M2. But he was cool, man. Cole was cool. Cole was like one of the guys, bro. But you do recognize the difference, though. Like, the security measures and all of that shit. It's like nobody's getting in the Section. Like, it's just the fellas. Whoever's with him, that's it. You can't bring nobody in here but him. Like, on a personal level, was super cool, down to earth. And that's kind of why I didn't ask for an autograph. Cause it just felt, like, weird. It was like we just finished kicking it, talking shit all night, laughing. And I'm like, hey, can you sign this?

[Host 1]

Like, and it has to be a napkin the way your mom did.

[Host 2]

Like, it would have been a napkin. Or I could have pulled the jersey out. I could have folded a jersey and put it in my jean pocket.

[Host 1]

Yo, fold it.

[Host 2]

I definitely would have jersey swapped a Coleman and M2.

[Host 1]

Just wait for someone to say crew photos. You said you take a flick. Nobody said that. Nobody said that.

[Host 2]

Nobody said flick.

[Host 1]

Somebody just said flick.

[Host 2]

But that is the one. That's the one person that I regret not asking for autograph. New Warrior now, the Stream Awards. What are this? This weekend?

[Host 1]

Yes. Did they stream it or was it on cable?

[Host 2]

I'm not sure what it was on. I just saw some clips on, you know, social media. Shout out to Blackboy Max. He won best music Streamer.

[Host 1]

Well deserved. Well deserved. Shout out to Black Box.

[Host 2]

Shout out to the Bronx legend, Kad. He won three or four.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he was on his Lauren Hill. He. He had.

[Mal]

He.

[Host 2]

Has he pour champagne in him? I didn't know. I don't even know what the award looks like. But Shout out to Kasha not.

[Host 1]

He won marathon stream, right?

[Host 2]

I mean, he would have to. He was. He was streaming for half the year.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Imagine losing and you did that.

[Host 2]

He was streaming for seven months straight or some like that.

[Host 1]

I mean, how many people do the marathon street. Like, I'd like to know how many people were in that category. And is it the way marathons go? Like, I understand the Kenyans are going to win, but can I be, like, the person that just comes in last place, like, two days later?

[Host 2]

Probably.

[Host 1]

Like, can I just put my on and just go about my life or just, like, leave it in my kitchen streaming for.

[Host 2]

Like, we don't. I mean, listen, obviously what Kai did was incredible, but it takes a lot. And I think, you know, Kai, when his acceptance speech, he was speaking to mental health and things like that, and that's something I always thought about when, like, when Kai was doing all that, I was like, how is this guy. Like, how is he dealing with this mentally? Like, so much stress, pressure, knowing that you're on camera 24 hours a day for months. I mean, I just don't know how somebody is able to do that. I just don't. I just don't.

[Host 1]

Like, like, without cocaine, not, not.

[Host 2]

Not drugs, but, like, just being able to mentally disconnect for a second. Like, how do you do that? And then not only that, because if. If I start streaming tomorrow. Cool, right? It's not gonna be that many. We talking about millions of people watching this kid at one time for days, weeks, months.

[Host 1]

You're speaking about Kai, which I completely agree with. Shout out to the fans. Like, you guys are watching that the entire time, which is fucking crazy. Like, you're doing that marathon with him.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

That's nuts. That's a dedicated fan.

[Mal]

The fans get to. The fans get to turn it. They get to turn it off. Like, even when we did our stream and our. Our very first stream, and. And I wanted it to be very entertaining, there were times where I would step away and have to breathe and turn off. Off. Like, that's a. It's like you're putting on. Not pretending, per se, but you're putting so to. To do that for days and days and months and months on end. I could not. I would collapse.

[Host 1]

I would literally collapse.

[Mal]

I have no idea how he's able to do that.

[Host 1]

And I mean, granted, at points Kai will have other people be there so he can sleep, but he even records himself sleeping. Like, I. I wouldn't even be able to shut my brain off knowing there's a camera looking at me while I'm.

[Mal]

Because you can't even fart in your sleep. Does he turn the mute off? Like, he. He mutes.

[Host 2]

Yeah, you can fart in your sleep. That's the streamers. Love that.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Makes them Feel like they know you better.

[Host 1]

That's a thousand more subs.

[Host 2]

Thousand more subs per far.

[Host 1]

Sometimes I talk in my sleep. Like sometimes I have like weird jolt reactions in my sleep. Like what if I have a wild dream and the world gets to watch me experience that?

[Host 2]

Just make the clip in and you go viral, that's all.

[Host 1]

Can they find out I'm a serial killer?

[Host 2]

Yeah, it builds the show. Shout out to Speed. He won streamer of the year. A lot of the videos I've been seeing the speed. He might be one of the best athletes in the world. Like it's. I don't think it's anything Speed can't do. It's definitely nothing he won't try, but he's definitely one of the best athletes I've ever seen.

[Mal]

I want to shout out to Lil James who is one of Kai Sanat's friend who stuck up for him when another person in that life. Fan, fan was doing like a live interview segment like during the hosting of the awards and she called Kai Sanat Diddy. Like. Cause people have been making that joke about the way he looks and saying that he resembles Diddy, but he's like, yeah, congratulations. She was like, congratulations on like your doc that just came out comparing him to Diddy and it was just like the whole room kind of got silent cuz that's not even funny and it's just some shit you just don't joke about. And Ty called her out. I'm Mike, like, yo, if you gonna make jokes at least be funny. And I like when people stick up for their friends cuz I'm like that. So I just wanted to shout out to everybody's.

[Host 1]

Kai didn't even like do the like oh my God. He just was like, what the. What the is wrong with you? And listen, I'm the last person that should talk about tasteless jokes. But I was so happy that that gentleman did that for Kai. Like what? That's all right, cool. If you want to make the joke, make it funny.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Because that was just like odd. And I don't think he looks like Puff.

[Host 2]

He does. He looks like a young daddy.

[Mal]

He look like they could be distantly related, but not enough, you know, I'm saying like not enough for it to become a thing. Like he looks like they distantly related.

[Host 2]

But he cut his hair so he looks more like him now.

[Host 1]

Fair. Okay, fair enough.

[Mal]

But either way, that was just like such a. People gotta understand like jokes like stand up comedy ain't for everybody. Off the cuff comedy like, ain't for everybody.

[Host 1]

And a lot of streamers are. Are very funny, Podcasters included, radio personalities, everything. A lot of people are funny sitting down on a mic like this. But to do stand up, host something. Yeah, it's a way different monster. Like, just because you're funny in your computer chair does not mean. Remember when Charlemagne did that? What was that show on mtv? Two.

[Mal]

Impractical Jokers.

[Host 1]

Charlamagne, the God did not do impractical Joker.

[Mal]

I didn't know.

[Host 1]

I didn't know. Yeah, Uncommon sense. And I respected that Charlemagne was trying to take certain people that were funny on Twitter and put them on that show. But not everybody is tax who's funny in real life. Like, it was clear that a lot of people that have 140 characters to make you laugh when you put them in front of a mic, though, you're not like, you're not funny at all.

[Mal]

Most of the people on Twitter are.

[Host 1]

Like, you get to sit and think about that and reword it and like, n off the cuff on a TV show, you're trash. Which is fine, but it just doesn't translate all the time. And that was a clear indicator at the streamer awards that, yeah, some of y' all aren't funny that way, which is cool. I probably. I'd be trashing it too, but.

[Host 2]

I be wanting to say, shit, man, but I'll let y' all have it.

[Host 1]

Nah, go ahead, don't say it. Go ahead.

[Host 2]

Nobody would have felt the way if that was a black woman making that joke.

[Mal]

Yes, they would have.

[Host 2]

No, they wouldn't have.

[Mal]

Yes, they would.

[Host 2]

We do it all the time. Every award show is a comedian hosting, makes inappropriate jokes. Nobody's upset.

[Host 1]

It's not that we're not saying, diddy jokes can't be made. It's just like, make it funny.

[Mal]

It wasn't funny.

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[Host 1]

Yeah, that's the thing. If you have like a punchline, have.

[Host 2]

A more stuff that's not funny.

[Host 1]

Fair.

[Host 2]

There's a lot of hoes that have said, shit. We sat here was like, yo, they were not funny.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's fine. All I said was I'm not shout out to his friend for getting out of mic and saying, yo, if you're gonna make jokes, make it funny. Nobody's saying, cancel shorty end her career.

[Host 2]

Nobody's making a. I know nobody's saying.

[Mal]

That, but it's like, yo, shout out to joke.

[Host 2]

I just feel like nobody would have felt away if that was a black woman that made that joke.

[Mal]

I don't I think that.

[Host 2]

Cause we tend to take jokes from each other differently than we do from people that's not from our culture.

[Mal]

I feel like yes, we do joke on each other and we're a little bit. But that's obvious within every race. Right. People are a little bit more comfortable with their own race mates, whatever the fuck you want to call it. Right. But at the same time you also have to look at the age group that that's in. They're not the jokes that like we. That y' all used to get off in the 80s and shit like that. Like we live in a more sensitive time anyway.

[Host 1]

The 80s is crazy.

[Mal]

Mal wasn't joking in the 80s.

[Host 1]

Of course he was. The jokes we were in 2010 are different.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So like 10, 20, 19. 2020.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

To five years ago. Like inappropriate shit is funny sometimes. Now I get it.

[Host 1]

And also the streamers, I feel like. I know we say this, this generation is, is a little more soft and tiptoes around the PC type of thing, but let's not act like when it comes to streaming, those guys don't cross the line way more than we do.

[Mal]

They cross lines, yes, but they are more hyper aware and it's mainly because.

[Host 1]

Rumble exists for a reason.

[Mal]

They've lived. Yeah, that's fine, but that's not Kai's audience. And when you're on like, like the streamer awards, like those type of platforms that are supposed to be there, like those are their official platforms. Right. So to us we're looking at it like we don't know what the fuck that is. They're younger than us. But that's their official platforms. That's their Oscars.

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[Mal]

When it comes to racial, racial shit, sexual assault shit, they grew up in an era that that shit cannot be laughed off. So they do a lot of inappropriate shit, but that's all they do is.

[Host 2]

Laugh at that type of shit. Now young niggas don't give a fudge about none of that.

[Host 1]

She's speaking more to the Kai part of the genre. The rest of the streaming world.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Is far worse than any of us.

[Mal]

Yes. Aiden Ross and all of them. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the buttoned up, the official people of. Of this.

[Host 2]

All right, let me ask you a question.

[Host 1]

Are not like laughing at sexual assault.

[Host 2]

Let me ask you something, Baby D. If India Love made that joke, would Tyler had said something?

[Mal]

I'm sure he would have.

[Host 2]

Get the tight, man. That's what we doing today. If India Love made that Joke. Nobody says nothing.

[Mal]

That's your opinion.

[Host 1]

I can disagree with you because they. Because they were trying to like beat or because.

[Host 2]

No, it's just different coming from. Depending on who it's coming from. That's what I'm saying. If it was somebody that's from our culture that said that. Somebody that we cool with that said that.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Host 1]

By the way, I think that makes sense though, ironically. Like, yeah, yeah. Certain people can't make certain jokes. People get too comfortable.

[Host 2]

No, I'm. I'm with that. But that's what. That was my first statement.

[Host 1]

They should learn that. They shouldn't be so fucking.

[Host 2]

If it wasn't an Asian girl that said that, if this was a black girl that said that, nobody would have said nothing. Tyler wouldn't have asked for that mic and said one word.

[Mal]

I still think he would have. I still think he would have said something. Because I think as his. I think because it's his friend, it's like, don't compare me to somebody who's sexual. Like, that's not. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not funny. Like, that's a big deal in our culture. It's like a big nasty thing. This is a terrible person. Like, you're making a joke about me looking like a literal monster. Like, that's not because. And yes, the added fact nine, that saying that I look like that is always when it comes from somebody non black. So I get your point. When it comes from somebody non black, you're basically saying all black people look alike. Because I'm sure Kai don't think he look like Diddy. Right. So you're basically saying all black people look alike. So there is a little added sauce to it. So would it have been less disrespectful coming from a black woman? Yes, it wouldn't have been funny coming from any race because it just wasn't funny. But again, we could agree. Disagree.

[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 2]

Well, no, he got, it was a, it was a fake page. It was an AI page or AI model.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

Somebody was running a page with pictures of an AI model and basically you know, kind of like swindle Matt Barnes into sending 5,000amonth for like a year. So like $60,000.

[Host 1]

But it was a woman. Well obviously if it was AI but like he never spoke to this person. Was she sending AI nudes? Like what, what was he just sending 5k for? That's where I'm really lost.

[Host 2]

I don't know, we can look, we can look at it. Josh. I don't know what the, the real story is, but I do believe it was somebody saying that they were like gonna come. Go public and say that it was a pregnancy or something like that, or pregnancy scarecrow. So it's fake text messages, Fake audio messages from somebody saying that they were gonna go public and leak a story being pregnant by Matt and things like that. And Matt's. Is Matt Barnes married? He was, but his partner was pregnant during the time and he was saying that he didn't want it to go public because I think he was saying that she was a high risk pregnancy, didn't want to stress her out, didn't want her lose the baby, lose the pregnancy. So he tr, you know, whatever he had to do to make it go away. So if it was 5,000amonth, he was just sending that wire every month.

[Host 1]

Okay, but understand, I mean, don't cheat on your pregnant girlfriend. But wouldn't he know that this was fake because he never fucked the robot?

[Host 2]

Well, yes, so you would assume so. Yes. But I think he was just scared and panicking. He had went through something, I think last year where his, his girlfriend had released some text messages and caught him talking to some girls and, you know, things like that. So I think he was kind of like, oh, shit, not again. And he just. Whatever he needed to do to make it go away.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but you can read a text and be like, this is not me.

[Host 2]

Yes, you. And I can. Yes.

[Host 1]

And like, I know, but Matt, I know this, this woman who I think is a woman, not AI. I've never fucked or met this person. So how could you extort. Something's not adding up in the story, man. No, listen, I wish when it's not 5k. Like what month did he say? 6k 61k. Does not add up to.

[Host 2]

Well, total.

[Host 1]

Did she show? Fucking AI butthole. And he sent 6K one month?

[Host 2]

Well, no, I mean, it was $5,000 a month. The wire transfers for like a year to somebody. And then he found out that it wasn't real. There was an AI model. So now he's suing Tasha K. He's filing a lawsuit against Tasha K. Oh.

[Host 1]

Then never mind Matt Barnes. I didn't say anything. What you mean I didn't say anything.

[Host 2]

You didn't pump the story. You're not pumping the story out there.

[Mal]

You just.

[Host 1]

I'm just confused by it.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I was too. I just don't know how you get caught up in something like this. I get It. If it's a real woman that you know, you had some dealing with, you.

[Host 1]

May have gotten pregnant.

[Host 2]

I totally understand that. But this AI model shit, like, I just don't know. Like, Matt must have just been so scared and so paranoid and didn't want to lose his girl that he was just like, man, whatever I gotta do to make this shit disappear, fuck it. It is what it is.

[Host 1]

What's your extortion number?

[Host 2]

My extortion number?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

You can't extort me.

[Host 1]

No, I understand.

[Host 2]

You're cool, but no, I'm just not getting extorted. What would I be extorted for?

[Host 1]

This is hypothetical, of course. I'm trying to think what information. All right, let's say. Let's put this same situation, you're with your wife, high risk pregnancy, you are certain that, hey, maybe I got this girl pregnant because I have slept with her. What is your extortion number there.

[Host 2]

There's no extortion because to me that makes it worse. Like, getting a girl, getting a side chicken pregnant is bad.

[Host 1]

I'm not here to talk about.

[Host 2]

The more I think your girl goes crazier. If knowing that you were sending her money every month.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

I think that would just add fuel to it. Like, not only did you get a girl pregnant while I'm pregnant, you were sending her money every month. Like that. That's just added insult to the injury.

[Host 1]

Like, I know you're. I know you're right wing and pro life, which I respect. So again, this is hypothetical. What's your extortion number for the abortion?

[Host 2]

I don't know. It depends on who the girl is. If it's a girl that I have.

[Host 1]

No, same situation. You have a wife that's pregnant, that's pregnant. Now all of a sudden, it's more.

[Host 2]

If it's a girl that I had, like a real relationship. If it was just like a fling, one night stand, and she happened to get pregnant, yeah, we might have to talk about sending some money. But if it's like, a girl. If it's a girl I had a real relationship with, it's like, yo, we a family now. You know, like, fuck it.

[Host 1]

No, you have a family. You have a wife.

[Host 2]

I love y' all both and I love the kids.

[Host 1]

So what happened to the nuclear family? Wal. 30 seconds ago, we were a nuclear family.

[Host 2]

I fucked up. I made a mistake, but I'm not going. You know, if it's somebody I have a real relationship with, then, you know, we gotta do it. You ain't extort me. But if it's somebody I just met on the road, had a fun night with, I slipped up, she got pregnant. Then it's like, yeah, I'm not having a fight.

[Host 1]

So what's the number? Not your NBA salary. Your salary here.

[Host 2]

I don't know. 10K. She might give. She might have that. Take this 10K right off into the sunset.

[Host 1]

I better hope that baby shower brings us a lot of stuff because 10k is hurting me within a child is 100k. So it's like. I mean, exactly. What's the P. L on that?

[Host 2]

Exactly. Send the 10k, man.

[Host 1]

Is it 10k all in or do you also have to pay for the abortion? That's where I think that the 1k came from in the 60 notice.

[Host 2]

All in.

[Host 1]

It's an all in fee.

[Host 2]

10K all in. Get rid of it. Go shopping, Take a vacation. Do what you got to do. 10k all in.

[Host 1]

Tamaris is pissed at us right now.

[Mal]

About what?

[Host 1]

Because we're joking about abortions, and I think that's mean to women.

[Mal]

I don't care about that.

[Host 1]

Okay?

[Mal]

He. From the reports that I'm seeing, though, the AI Never claimed to be pregnant. She just claimed to be sleeping with him or with him. She never.

[Host 1]

Okay, but how many do you have?

[Host 2]

So it wasn't pregnancy that you can't remember. It was just sex?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Host 2]

Oh, now Matt tripping, not sending you no money, and we just had sex. I thought she was saying she was pregnant.

[Mal]

Well, he didn't her because she's a. She a robot.

[Host 1]

But I'm saying how many women do you. I'm sleeping with that you forget.

[Host 2]

But that's why I said Matt was out here. He listen. Matt got bitches.

[Mal]

It's funny because he's suing Tasha K. For not like, he's like, Tasha K. Didn't confirm whether the material she was spreading was real or not. Nigga, neither did you. Like, right?

[Host 2]

Like, you had. You was in a whole sue yourself back and forth with AI model. Like, you didn't even know what was going on. Like, so I could. How could Tasha Kay know what's going on? You don't even know what's going on.

[Host 1]

And, like, did Tasha K. Post the actual messages?

[Mal]

Tasha K. Posted all that stuff and claimed that Matt Barnes was being unfaithful.

[Host 1]

Can we please see these text messages? That was from AI Because I feel like. And again, I don't get. So this is a world I may not understand at the Matt Barnes level. When do you not remember text conversations with women? You're sleeping with.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, even if it's a one night stand, you would remember the address. Like. Nah, I never stayed there.

[Host 2]

Yeah, Matt. Matt was. You know what Matt was.

[Host 1]

I am confused.

[Host 2]

Matt was out here wiling.

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[Host 2]

That wire was going out every month.

[Host 1]

Or. Or is. God damn. Or is. That's what's a. He didn't send the money.

[Host 2]

No, he sent the money. Money gone.

[Mal]

Money gone. It's crazy. Well, who has the money?

[Host 2]

Whoever was running that account. Yeah, whoever was running the account. Yeah, that's how that goes. But this is the. But you know, this is a thing though. Like there's like, there's accounts that I was put onto that like people saw that I was following. It was like, yo, you know that girl, like her boyfriend runs that account. Like she be getting dudes to send her money. So like it's a real girl, but it's not actually her account. Like her boyfriend's running an account. Dming guys talking. Guys start sending, you know, cash app this, that and the third. Like. But it's not her at all. It's just her pictures.

[Host 1]

I mean, mo. This did happen to one of the greatest linebackers in Notre Dame history. First round draft pick.

[Host 2]

He.

[Host 1]

He dedicated which bowl was that? To his dead girlfriend who was just some dude.

[Host 2]

Crazy.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I think I was in high school, like tearing up watching what Monteo was his name fed. And that was like the peak of college football in my opinion at that time. Like I was crying hearing his speeches. I think I became a better catholic because of it. And it was just some other. Now, now it's a. Because the gentleman transitioned into a woman. So let me be respectful. It was just a they on the other side instead of a blonde white girl who died.

[Host 2]

I just don't know how you feel like that. How do you fall for that? Like, I don't trust. Listen, you gotta go through. You know how you gotta go through the two step verification on like X and all of that. Now it's like seven step verification with me. You start talking about sister, who are you? Call me right now. FaceTime. I need to see all of it.

[Host 1]

And if you FaceTime me, I'm still not seeing you.

[Host 2]

All of it is. Yeah, I need to see all of it. You gotta show me whole all of that. Like I'm like, who are you? When do we hook up? Like. Cause I don't remember you. You not. I can't. I don't know. Just getting caught up in something like this is just like there has to.

[Host 1]

Be more to the story.

[Host 2]

Maybe Matt feel like he did owe some girl some money in, like, somewhere, and she was coming to collect. So he was like, all right, let me just pay this girl. There has to be something connected to this on Matt's side that he's not telling. Like, this is not just an AI model trick Matt Barnes into sending $60,000.

[Host 1]

Like, I hope they kill us in the comments, and we have this entire story wrong. This makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I'm with it.

[Host 1]

And I mean, at this point, you have to have some audacity to sue because everything's going to be put on the table with the case.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So, I mean, Matt feels like he. He must be right in this situation.

[Host 2]

So is Matt. Matt is filing a lawsuit against Tasha K. For defamation. I don't know if how far that will go and if Matt will win that, because, again, you know, Tasha's only spreading information that we have. I don't know how that can be defamation.

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[Mal]

Well, so Tasha K. Is not reporting on this. Like, how we're reporting on this. Tasha K. Was reporting that Matt Barnes is cheating on his girlfriend. And I have proof. That's defamation. That wasn't true.

[Host 2]

And the proof is this.

[Mal]

The proof was the fake text messages, the fake audio, and all of that stuff. That's not proof. You didn't verify. You're basically. That's like, if somebody says, yo ma got a secret family, and somebody goes and spreads on the shade room, fake messages, fake AI Pictures of you and your family, you can be like, bitch, I'm suing you. That's not true. So. And you didn't do your research as a journalist, you didn't do your research, and you're spreading misinformation. My thing about Matt is Tasha K. Filed bankruptcy because she owed cardi B. Like, $10 million. You not getting no money from her.

[Host 1]

She has more debt than somebody.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, she has nothing to lose. So you're now making this even more embarrassing because we. I didn't hear about this from Tasha K. We didn't know about this. You've made it a bigger thing, and you're not going to get any money from her.

[Host 1]

Yeah. To me, Tasha K. Is someone that has five life sentences. So she's just gonna keep murdering everyone in the jail. Like, there's not. You can't give me any more time, so I might as well just do this. Unless she's doing the Dame Dash family office and is just moving assets left and right.

[Host 2]

Of course, Mama's name not under my name. Send them my mama's.

[Host 1]

No, didn't. Didn't Cardi B figure that out? She was putting under her husband's name or something. Probably that happened. And Cardi B found, I think whack. And Cardi B found that in about two minutes.

[Mal]

Yeah, because she owes Cardi over 3.9 million. She's paying 1.2 million over five years because she claimed bankruptcy.

[Host 2]

So sorry. She could spread it out. Cardi need that money, though. She want that cash. Give me that. No Warrior.

[Host 1]

Now Malk is telling me on his way here, I didn't see this, but apparently there's what, another hundred hours of Diddy footage on the cutting room floor?

[Host 2]

So Diddy is still doing press. I mean, diddy50 diddy is not doing press.

[Host 1]

No, he's doing press on the yard.

[Host 2]

He's doing press like he's doing push ups. No, 50 is still doing press. And you know, obviously with the success of the Reckoning documentary, you know, he's talking about there's more footage. There's 140 hours that he has. And each episode was only maybe an hour. I think there was four episodes. So there's at least 130 something more hours that he hasn't edited or, you know, produced. And he's saying that he may put it out on YouTube just to put.

[Host 1]

It out there, like on his 50 Cent Devo page.

[Host 2]

I don't know if it'll be on his page, but he just said, you know, he doesn't know if he's gonna release it with Netflix or through Netflix. He might just put it out on YouTube or wherever, some other platform. But the one thing that he said that was interesting is he said, cause you see people out here trying to say, oh, the documentary can paint a narrative. This, that and the third. And his words were, if you see the rest of this footage, there will be no more. Kind of like, oh, you can paint this narrative. It's pretty clear cut. You know, the things that are being said in the documentary, the things that he still can't believe Puff. Cause he says that a lot like he can't believe Puff actually recorded all of this.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but I mean, so why does 50 not put that. If it's that damning and that crazy, why not put it in the doc?

[Host 2]

I was just, oh, I don't know why. I don't know why he didn't put it in the doc. Maybe, you know, the stories. Maybe he has more people that he would need to interview and have sit down for the Documentary to kind of go through those stories that are in there. It could be a number of reasons, but the fact that he has over 100 hours of footage of personal footage and things like that leading up to the case, because the story is Puff felt like he was going to win the case and that this was gonna be footage for his documentary that he would have released the Redemption after the trial was done and things like that. So, you know, the amount of things that he probably was recording, you know, just going off of the fact that he felt like they were going to win the case.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And this is my footage, and these guys aren't going to put it out. Yeah, like all the crazy shit we're going to take out.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Host 1]

But I mean, even I did see who I think was the director of what Diddy was trying to do had mentioned that he was on vacation or was out of town and had someone fill in for him. And that's the only footage that made it to the doc because that guy sold it. So maybe that director didn't pay the person to fill in, so he owned the footage and was able to give it away. But maybe all this other footage 50 doesn't have permission to put out, like.

[Host 2]

Okay, he could have it.

[Host 1]

But the director's like, no, this is my footage. Like, yeah, you got the other shit. Because I had my man's fill in for me for three days and.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Host 1]

He has that footage now.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Host 1]

So maybe that could be it. But, I mean, I don't know. I feel like 50 is so petty that if it was that crazy, he would have just put the shit in the dock. But who knows? I don't even want to speculate what is on the hundred hours.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

After Lil Rod telling me what was going on, I don't know if I want to see it visually.

[Host 2]

I mean, you know, and for 50 to say the footage that's on there is. It leaves no more room for people to kind of say, oh, the narratives are being created. It's false for 50 to say that. I mean, you know, we can only imagine the footage that he's seen and that he has. So we'll have to see if any of that ever sees the light of day. I'm sure that, you know, Diddy's team is gonna do everything they can to make sure that that doesn't happen. But, you know, I don't know. I don't. Honestly, I don't even know if I want to need to see anything else.

[Host 1]

I'm kind of cool.

[Host 2]

I'm kind of cool. Like, I don't think I need to.

[Host 1]

See if it helps someone get justice on something. Sure. But, I mean, I'm kind of.

[Host 2]

I'm diddied out right now, and everybody getting mad. Yo, what do you say?

[Mal]

I'm diddied out. That sounds crazy. That's a pause.

[Host 2]

Sorry, sorry. You got new teeth.

[Host 1]

It's okay if you're not diddied out. I think that's a pause. I think what I said was quite the opposite of a pause if I. If I wanted some more diddy then.

[Host 2]

But, yeah, I don't. You know, people were mad at 50 because he, you know, he executive produced this documentary and things like that. But, you know, there's so many other documentaries that already exist. Like, there's probably seven documentaries that are out. I see one called the Fall. Did He Fall? Or something like that. And it was all kind of shit. I'm just like, bro, it's like seven documentaries available on streaming DSPs right now. And nobody was upset or mad about that. But because it's 50, and I think people hold 50 to this street code, and this is snitching or this is whatever I'm seeing people say about it. 50 is a TV and film executive. Let's just leave it right there. Hello. It's his job to get footage, film, edit, produce, release. Like, this is what he's been doing for years. So we trying to hold 50 to the same standard we was holding him to if he was selling crack and queen. Still, I don't even understand what people are even talking about.

[Host 1]

Everybody in that doc did a deposition, talked with the government already. They were just telling it on camera.

[Host 2]

Exactly.

[Host 1]

It's already in the paperwork.

[Host 2]

It's in the paperwork. It was already.

[Host 1]

We saw all 80 pages of lil Rod's shit already.

[Host 2]

Yeah. So I don't. I don't understand this whole thing with people being mad at 50 or upset at 50. Listen, he's a. He's a. He's a TV and film executive, man. This is his job. This is what he's been doing for years. And, you know, because it's footage or stories about somebody that we also have, you know, seen and grown up and listened to and supported and things like that. It doesn't make it, you know, inexcusable. It's like, yo, listen, it is what it is. This is the footage. I'm gonna executive produce it and I'm gonna put it out.

[Host 1]

I also don't fully understand snitching rules. I just feel like telling about Somebody abusing women isn't snitching. And then there's that part I just don't like. I personally, which I don't matter in that world, but I don't view that as snitching.

[Host 2]

If it's already public information, how is.

[Host 1]

It snitching even if it wasn't?

[Host 2]

Yeah, no, I'm with you. You know, I'm with you on that. Absolutely. That's.

[Host 1]

That's not really my definition of it. But, you know, it is what it is. I'm curious how long 50 is going to drag this, though. I feel like he'll. He'll be quiet for a little bit and then when Puff gets out, he'll get back on. On his.

[Host 2]

Oh, well, we have to wait and see.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I could say when. When do we think we'll get the. The 50 executive produced series where Joey Badass plays Puff?

[Host 2]

No, I don't think. I don't think 50 going to do that.

[Host 1]

I can see it.

[Host 2]

Nah, he ain't gonna do that.

[Host 1]

Would be a series outside of the nasty shit Puff did. That would still also be a series that I would like to see.

[Host 2]

Just Puff Story.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Because even like, I mean, I thought Notorious was. Wasn't a bad movie by any means. I felt like it was a little too soon. Like having DJ Enough play himself and still look the same was just like.

[Mal]

Notorious was a good movie.

[Host 1]

No, no, it was. I think Rabie did a great job. But I would. A series from Puff's lens and his story, I think would just be an interesting series. No, it definitely like the whole thing not glorifying the good he did. Also the bad he did too. All in one series. Yeah, that would be just as compelling as bmf.

[Mal]

No one would. That would have to be an outside thing. Puff wouldn't be able to do that because he wouldn't be able to do the bad he did.

[Host 1]

Oh, no. I wouldn't want Puff to.

[Mal]

Yeah, but 50 wouldn't be able to do the good he did. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Like, there's a bias either way.

[Host 1]

Puff. Puff. I don't want to see anything from Puff about himself. Even the Notorious shit that he had somewhat of a hand and he made himself look like fucking Morpheus in a Versace shirt. Like he was the knower of all things.

[Halion/Ad Read]

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[Host 1]

Yes. I don't ever want to see something from Puff's lens executive produced by him, though it would be funny to see how Puff sees himself when we have the facts.

[Host 2]

Oh, right.

[Mal]

A Therapist would watch that and go to town.

[Host 1]

What do we think Puff does in jail?

[Host 2]

He living.

[Mal]

He talked to people. I think he talks a lot. I think they're probably tired of Puff talking.

[Host 2]

They have footage of him. I think he was in the classroom. I think he was taking some classes or something like that.

[Host 1]

There was a photo, him in the yard with somebody. Was it Fetty he was with? He was with somebody like that. We know. Don't quote me. Oh, he's. Yeah, he's with Sebastian Telfair.

[Host 2]

Was that confirmed that that was Sebastian? I know Sebastian is locked up right now.

[Host 1]

It looked just. If. If not, it looked just like Sebastian Tilbury.

[Host 2]

Okay. I mean, people don't understand jail, especially when you have money and influence. Jail is not as. I mean, it's jail, so it's jail. It's prison. Compared to the life that Puff is used to living, it's hell. But you can be comfortable as best as possible. You can get a phone, you can get food. You can get the things that can kind of make life a little easier while you're incarcerated. But, I mean, either way, Puff is trying to do everything he can to get the fuck out of there. Yeah, it ain't. Even though it's easy and, well, not easy, but it's comfortable as best it can be, it's still not a place that anybody want to be.

[Host 1]

When I was thinking of people like Puff and Thug, not comparing them as people, but when they were in jail, it was less about them having money or influence, more of them both being alleged drug addicts for so long. That's why I feel like both of them would be losing their fucking mind. Not that you can't get drugs into jail, of course, but not as easy if you're going from doing that amount of drugs every single day to going cold turkey. I mean, we even saw thugs weight, like, yeah, of course you gain weight in jail. But he. That was a whole thing. All right, you're not taking drugs anymore.

[Host 2]

Yeah, you getting some sleep? You eating? You're not. You know what I mean? That type of thing.

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[Mal]

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