Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 5/19

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 5/19

Release Date: May 25, 2025
Hosts: Rory Farrell & Malcolm
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode kicks off with Rory Farrell and Malcolm diving straight into the core discussions, bypassing typical advertisements and introductory segments to offer listeners a comprehensive and engaging conversation.

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2. Battle Rap Showdown: Joey Badass vs. Daylight

Discussion on Recent Battles

Rory and Malcolm dissect the intense battle rap exchanges between Joey Badass and Daylight, highlighting the dynamics and outcomes of their confrontations.

• Rory Farrell initiates the discussion by questioning Malcolm about Malcolm's reaction to victory:
  “What do you do when you win? Like are you a fist pumper? A woohooer?” [00:38]

Analyzing Daylight's Performance

The hosts express their disappointment with Daylight's latest efforts against Joey Badass, emphasizing that despite Daylight’s strong reputation in battle rap, his recent attempts fell short.

• Rory states, “Daylight is one of the greatest battle rappers of all time... But Daylight's most recent performance was underwhelming by his standards.” [04:53]

• Malcolm concurs, adding, “I was very underwhelmed at this attempt.” [08:08]

Joey Badass Dominance

Both hosts agree that Joey Badass has effectively outperformed his West Coast counterparts, asserting his dominance in the battle rap scene.

• Rory remarks, “Joey Badass is smoking the entire West Coast right now.” [05:51]

• Malcolm reinforces this sentiment, stating, “Joey Badass is out rapping all of you.” [11:00]

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3. Homie Court: Addressing Internal Conflict

The conversation takes a dramatic turn as Rory, Malcolm, and their guest Damaris engage in a mock courtroom scenario, playfully addressing accusations and misunderstandings within their group.

Accusations and Apologies

• Damaris accuses Malcolm of "ratting" by mentioning his name in a statement:
  “You put my name and said he deserves to smoke. How is that the same?” [32:18]

• Malcolm defends himself, claiming his laughter was not meant to disrespect:
  “I was just laughing at the post. I wasn't laughing at her trying to make you look stupid.” [53:09]

• Rory intervenes, highlighting the miscommunication and minimizing the conflict:
  “She still protects a friend and a co-worker from Bardi Gang.” [27:14]

Resolution Attempts

The trio attempts to resolve their differences, though tensions remain high as they navigate through misunderstandings and humorous exchanges.

• Damaris offers an apology for any unintended offense:
  “I apologize. Sincerely. That's how an apology is handled.” [44:26]

• Rory emphasizes the importance of maturity and understanding in handling conflicts:
  “We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs for clicks.” [23:51]

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4. Reflections on Battle Rap Culture

Rory and Malcolm share their insights on the evolving nature of battle rap, discussing the balance between lyrical complexity and crowd-pleasing performances.

• Malcolm points out, “You can be a battle rapper, but when it comes time to battle rap on records with music, having flows and things like that, it's a different ball game.” [71:06]

• Rory agrees, suggesting that simplicity can often be more impactful in battles:
  “The hip hop purists are gonna just have to face the reality that in the history of battling, the simple wins.” [69:29]

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5. Engaging with the Audience: Twitter Spaces Recap

The hosts recap their recent Twitter Spaces event where they interacted with over 12,000 listeners, discussing the Joey Badass and Daylight battles in real-time.

• Rory shares his excitement:
  “Twitter Spaces was amazing. I had a great time... It's always fun to talk about shit in real time with listeners and fans.” [59:50]

• Malcolm acknowledges the participation:
  “Shout out to Mickey Fax. Lloyd Banks was in the spaces.” [59:56]

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6. Closing Remarks and Advertisements

The episode concludes with Rory and Malcolm returning to the topic of advertisements, promoting products like Degree Cool Rush deodorant, Mint Mobile, Amazon Business, Greenlight, Boost Mobile, Lenovo, Samsung Vision AI, and more. They humorously intersperse these promotions with light-hearted banter, maintaining the show’s entertaining tone.

• Rory humorously ties the universe’s balance to Joey Badass’s success:
  “But I found someone that doesn't do that. Boost mobile you pay $25 a month forever unlimited talk text data...” [58:57]

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Notable Quotes

• Rory Farrell:
  “Joey Badass is smoking the entire West Coast right now.” [05:51]

• Malcolm:
  “I was very underwhelmed at this attempt.” [08:08]

• Damaris:
  “I have been dealing with people calling me all types of sensitive asses because Rory went and stuck up for me.” [48:00]

• Rory Farrell:
  “We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs for clicks.” [23:51]

• Malcolm:
  “The game has started. This ain't the layup line.” [14:02]

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Conclusion

In this "Best of Rory & Mal" episode, listeners are treated to an unfiltered and dynamic conversation that navigates through the intricacies of battle rap, internal group dynamics, and engaging audience interactions. Rory and Malcolm balance their critiques with humor and camaraderie, providing both insightful analysis and entertaining banter for fans and newcomers alike.

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Note: Timestamps are indicative and correspond to the moments reflected in the transcript provided.

Transcript

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[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

What do you do when you win?

[Rory Farrell]

Like are you a fist pumper?

[Malcolm]

A woohooer?

[Rory Farrell]

A hand clapper? A high fiver?

[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Damaris]

Who Winning Man? Who winning the west or Joey Badass?

[Rory Farrell]

I know people are going to think.

[Malcolm]

All right, my bad.

[Damaris]

I'm asking you. The west or Joey Badass?

[Rory Farrell]

Same way the Knicks are the greatest dynasty in NBA history. That's over here. I'm. I'm taking my bias hat off now. Joey Badass is cleaning up the whole west coast right now by himself.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory Farrell]

Does Joey Badass even need to reply?

[Damaris]

Let me snitch.

[Rory Farrell]

This is kind like I'm being truthful here. And I know we already have that stigma on us that we dislike TDE in the west coast, which is completely false if you look in the fucking fact.

[Malcolm]

That's just so stupid.

[Rory Farrell]

My 10 favorite albums of last year, 4 out of the 5 were from the West Coast. 5 out of the 10 were in the West coast or TDE. So fuck all that and biases and comments under this. Let's go with facts. Rayvon had a great response. I liked it. Joey Badass barred him the fuck up. And then Daylight, who I came on this last episode, who I think is one of the greatest battle rappers that's ever existed. He's a different type of tier. Put out a fucking dud that I don't even know if Joey needs to reply. And I know Joey is mad at home because all he wanted to do was reply to Daylight. I'm sure he has records already recorded about. Daylight even said in his Ray Vaughan reply, I'm done with you, Ray. I only want to focus on Daylight. He's on my level. I know Joey and his team are sitting in the studio right now going, I mean, do we even put these out? Do we even engage in this? Joey cleaned all of you up. Reason I loved your reply. I was one that encouraged you on air, on Twitter. Love, I love your response, but yours is also kind of to the the side of the back and forth. He deserved to be entered into the chat with that and he smoked it. But I don't consider it the back and forth if we're going just based off everyone that's trying to jump Joey from the West Coast. You guys are losing.

[Malcolm]

Bad az.

[Rory Farrell]

You have my favorite. Not az, Brooklyn az, LA az. You had my favorite feature on gnx. I even did some weird and followed you on Instagram the day GNX game. I was like, this guy is fire. You make great music. Stick to that. I don't need to hear your battle raps. You didn't do a dent. Daylight, one of the greatest battle rappers of all time.

[Malcolm]

It was cool. It's not enough.

[Rory Farrell]

It was underwhelming by Daylight standards. There was. There was definitely some cool bars in there, don't get me wrong. But nah, Daylight is Daylight. I think Daylight second verse on backpack is 10 times better than his full dis that he just put out to to Joey. Joey Badass is smoking the entire west coast right now.

[Malcolm]

Well, don't say the entire West Coast. Talk about everybody.

[Rory Farrell]

Everyone's trying to jump him.

[Malcolm]

Everybody he's speaking to and about.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, you know, I'm talking about everyone.

[Malcolm]

That'S trying to get in the ring with him. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

And they. They posted the whole timeline of the amount of people that's replied. Joey is by himself. And this isn't going to be on the West Coast. This is also going to be a homie court moment for our city. Thank God Joey handled this by himself because this could have got bad. Nobody is with us. Joey is by him fucking self.

[Damaris]

And I don't blame him.

[Rory Farrell]

He's getting jumped and holding his own while the rest of us in New York City are just waiting on the Pacers. Yeah, we also have a fight going on over here in New York City.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no, no. Because I love Joey.

[Rory Farrell]

Action Bronson, somebody.

[Damaris]

No, you don't get to go. Go to these people party, stab three of they n and then be like, yo, out of nowhere, stab three of they n. Ain't nobody helping me. We came here to party. You over here fighting with these, and now they jumping on you. No, I'm not helping you. I'm not coming out of the. I'm not stopping talking to the bad. Because you wanted to start a fight in the party when nobody was with you.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but the thing. You're not talking to the Maris. Joey don't need no help.

[Damaris]

He don't need no help. But you can't be mad at rappers for not doing.

[Malcolm]

He ain't. Joey ain't mad, man. Listen, man, Joey is out rapping all of y' all. It just is what it is.

[Damaris]

Oh, show.

[Rory Farrell]

No, but. All right, I hear you. But I've had friends that I know can fight really well, and when they get in an issue, I know they don't need my help, but that's still my man's. So I'll hold your jacket. Don't ruin that jacket. I got you, bro. I'm still going to be right there with you. You don't need my help. I Will make sure that the car is ready to go because someone's going to call the cops. There's still ways to be a present friend when you know your man's can hold it down. Like, oh, and also, can we show some unity? Also, everybody, Jalen Brunson, talk to somebody in the rap community in New York City.

[Damaris]

Everybody talking about where Griselda. Where Stove got. No, we live in Canada, remember? We not New Yorkers.

[Malcolm]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know who asking for Griselda. But one thing y' all, whoever said that y' all do not want Conway and Benny to start rapping, but they're.

[Damaris]

Saying is they're like, come help.

[Rory Farrell]

Come help start rapping.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, y' all don't want.

[Damaris]

They're like, come. Come help us. Come help us. No, no, no, no, no. Y' all tell us we're not New Yorkers all the time.

[Malcolm]

Listen, Joey Badass is out rapping all y' all. Daylight, one of my favorite battle rappers. And I was anticipating hearing what he had to say in all of this and what he was gonna come out. I was very underwhelmed, Very underwhelmed by the video, the song he dropped.

[Rory Farrell]

I didn't even like the beat flip.

[Malcolm]

I don't like the way they chopped the sample. And it's crazy because in speaking to some rappers and some artists, you know, while this is going on, a few of them definitely was like, yo, Daylight is not built for this. And on that stage, on that battle rap stage with no beat. Oh, yeah. But now when you got to put a beat on and you got to have flow and you got to do, it's a little different.

[Rory Farrell]

But if you remember last episode when I was bigging up Daylight, I said him and Surf are the only two battle rappers that I also like their music, like, they make. That's why I was so terrified for Joey. I feel I don't even wanna listen back to our last episode of how much I was like, I'm really terrified for Joey Badass. I think Daylight is the worst opponent you could run into. Cause he can do both things. And now I feel stupid as a huge Daylight fan.

[Malcolm]

I feel dumb as a Daylight. As somebody that always wants to hear what Daylight has to say and appreciate his rhymes and his battles. I was very underwhelmed at this attempt.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. I mean, I know Peach is gonna clip this up and Daylit's probably gonna end up hating us, but let's still do it for the.

[Malcolm]

Daylit is crazy. That's.

[Rory Farrell]

Why did I say they like, listen, man, I'm dyslexic. Okay? We were having a conversation off mic because Daylight did say that this was kind of just warming up like the first round type. I don't like in this microwave era of people's attention spans being so short. Why are you wasting around like, now? Joey doesn't even need to reply. Why didn't you get all your out on the first. First one? To some degree. He's saying it's just a warm up. I don't even know if we're gonna get to the next round again.

[Malcolm]

Because you started. The game has started. This ain't the layup line. The game has started.

[Rory Farrell]

He was trying to elude in that reply, like, yo, we just getting started. It's a warm up. I'm not even going crazy.

[Malcolm]

Ain't no warm up. But the game is.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, like, I'm not saying use all your. Obviously Art of War, but out the gate now. Joey does not need to reply. I don't think anyone would be like, damn, Joey's scared of Daylight.

[Malcolm]

Joey, don't. Don't respond. Don't respond. Joey Badass does not need to respond. This is over. It was cool while it lasted. Got the Internet going. You know, rap people got in the booth. I respect it. But this is not. It's. It's. They. Y' all. Y' all can't rap with Joey Badass. Y' all can't. And I going into this, I expected this to be much more entertaining, much closer. But after listening to everything over the weekend and now hearing Daylight, you know, when he dropped today. He dropped it today. Right, Right.

[Rory Farrell]

Hour before we started recording.

[Malcolm]

It's just not.

[Rory Farrell]

If I missed a bunch of entendres. Cool. Because we just started recording. But also that, like, I'm still of the belief that diss records and battle rap records still need to have some level of surface. Like, it can be certain shit needs to hit.

[Malcolm]

It can be too cerebral. It has to be. Yeah, more cool, has to be more witty. It has to be more clever. It has to be, you know, those types of things. And I get it. With Daylight, he's. You know, he just thinks on a different level. But it has to connect, though. Like, it has to connect. Like, don't. Don't break it down for me on. On a. On a podcast and tell me bars that he said and why he said it. If I. If it don't hit when I'm listening to it and the song is on all this Other shit after, it's like, I get it, but it just don't land. It didn't land. That shit is not landing. Joey went in there and he had style, he had clever shit, he had cool shit. He had. He checked all the boxes. When you want to, you know, like, it's again, this is a friendly fade. This is just like going at some guys and testing the pen and seeing who got what, you know. But I mean, it's clear after this, you know, Joey Badass is out rapping all of y' all.

[Rory Farrell]

And I mean, your point before, I think Daylight absolutely can rap with Joey Badass. So if he puts out another reply tomorrow and it's good, does Joey have to reply?

[Malcolm]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

Even if it's really good?

[Malcolm]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

Because I think Daylight can save this if he quickly comes back with more of a haymaker and kind of forces. Because Joey was the one saying, with Ray Von Shit, I only want to Daylight. That's who I want to battle.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but we got the record, so now you don't get to get the record. People respond to it. Don't like. Well, again, we responded to it. I don't know what other people feel about it. They may love it, they may think it's incredible. I'm just saying we responded to it. We don't think it's worth responding to. It's like. And you saying it was the warm up game one, whatever. So what is it? Daylight and Six? Are we going that route? Like, come on, fam.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, we this if he changes the energy by coming right back with something that absolutely hits, that forces Joey hit. And at that point, Joey listen is what Joey wanted to smoke.

[Malcolm]

Listen, I'm all for people putting out dope rhymes and dope records. Cool. Whenever you want to put it out, whether you battle or whatever, I'm going to listen to it. But I don't think that Joey has to sit back and be like, okay, I'll respond to that one. But then it's like, what are we doing at this point? Like, you just going to just drop a record until you get a reaction?

[Rory Farrell]

And I guess I don't know what I'm trying to figure out too outside looking in as someone that really, with Daylight, what was the strategy here? Because you came to New York and shot the video, you definitely put a lot into this. Why wouldn't that be the haymaker? If you're gonna do all of this with a video, fly to New York, do this entire thing. Why wouldn't that be the joint? Why not do a Temperature check. Throw it out real quick. And then the haymaker. Be the one that you come to New York and shoot everything. It kind of just felt like a waste of time.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

If you are gonna continue, why wouldn't. Like, you're. You shot a video and you're talking about, like, this is just the first round. Like, I'm just chilling. Then why are you on the A train right now? Yeah, like, do that for the one.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. This is. It's not. And it's no chilling. What is this chilling you keep talking about? Like, the fight is on. The fight has started.

[Rory Farrell]

And you know what? I also don't like in battle rap. And this is speaking as a fan, like, unfortunately, there is no real rules in battle rap. Rest in peace To Capital Steve's condolences to his entire family. I don't think it was crazy that Daylight brought him up. He posted a photo. We knew it was coming. Given this whole cryptic about why Steve's jumped off and knowing something about Joey. Like, if you don't really have information about that, don't set up that scheme because now you have to tell us. You have to finish that ball.

[Malcolm]

And don't give me a cliffhanger for song too. Like, no.

[Rory Farrell]

And if you don't really have something, that's going to be crazy. Now. I feel like, all right, now you're wasting even going over the line because that's what battle rap does. Now you're even wasting something on the capital C shit. And you don't really have any information. You're trying to make us think you have something. I don't. Personally, I just don't think I could be completely wrong. Play this clip. When I'm wrong. I don't think Daylight has some crazy info that capital Steez offed himself because of something that Joey did or knew about. Joey, like, I just don't believe that. Just my gut tells me that I think he was probably going through a lot of things that people go through. So if you're setting that up and Daylight being the master of this craft the way he is, if you don't have the info, don't set the scheme up that way.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause now you. Now you can't just leave that. Now you have to tell us what that is.

[Malcolm]

I think that what Daylight does best is perform battle rap. It's obviously different on a beat, a record. Now if Joey and Daylight are on stage, no beat, and just, you know, able to go at each other, I think that Daylight fares way different in that type of environment. I just think now you talking about making a song and beat and, you know, music, and I just think that's a little. It's more elements added to it. So Daylight is not gonna look as good as Joey does in that, because this is what Joey does. Joey makes songs, he makes music. He raps, you know, on beat and things like that now on stage. And you let Daylight just have his time and let him perform and let him get into his antics and, you know, get into his theatrics. I think that that's the better environment for Daylight. But this what Daylight did. As somebody that loves Daylight and with him, you know, love his. His rhymes and his battles, I was very disappointed and underwhelmed at. What is the name of this word to my mother. Something like that.

[Rory Farrell]

I think that's what it.

[Damaris]

Or something like. That's weird.

[Rory Farrell]

Whatever. Whatever the corny New York jokes they make on.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I don't know how you even say it, but I was disappointed. I'm not gonna lie. I was a very, very disappointed.

[Rory Farrell]

I do want to challenge west coast media, West Coast Twitter, west coast rappers, west coast execs. I came in here and ate humble pie multiple times to say that 2024 was the greatest year I've ever seen a coast have, down to the point that I came in here. Like, even their MLS team won the championship. Like, dog, what the fuck? We cannot beat la. They had a fucking year. I came in here and Dodgers, yes, they won everything.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Came in here and gave them their props. Objectively, I know you guys are still on your victory lap. I get it. West coast had a moment. I need you guys to be the objective people that you claim to be. Joey Badass by himself is cooking everybody.

[Malcolm]

That's a fact.

[Rory Farrell]

You guys are rap fans, ones I respect. I know deep down in your soul, you know, Joey Badass is cooking everybody. And I need you guys. I need you guys show how objective you guys claim to be.

[Malcolm]

Wilson, what you. What you think about? What you think about? Joey ready to start EVR all over again? Ready to go back to East Village radio?

[Rory Farrell]

I like East Village radio.

[Malcolm]

I love East Village radio.

[Rory Farrell]

Walk up in the street and watch it.

[Malcolm]

Joey might be in his. Yeah, he might be in the city.

[Rory Farrell]

No worry.

[Malcolm]

And now.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, so do we want to start with this or do we want to get to Homie Court?

[Malcolm]

Nah, let's start with this.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay, we'll go.

[Malcolm]

This is going to parlay us into Homie Court, though. This is going to parlay us.

[Damaris]

I'll read this. Do you want back? You want backstory?

[Rory Farrell]

Give some backstory.

[Damaris]

Okay, so I woke up first thing in the morning and I'm not going.

[Rory Farrell]

To say anything like I did in that clip.

[Damaris]

Okay. I woke up and there is a clip page that clips, you know, they wake up the moment we drop. They clip anything that they think can be inflammatory. So they made a clip of inflammatory story. They made a clip of me standing up for women. And a little bit of the Cardi conversation was in it and then it got cut out.

[Rory Farrell]

I love how you just worded that. They clipped me standing up for women. That wasn't the headline.

[Damaris]

They clipped me. Being an advocate and a little bit of when Rory said is Cardi gonna take accountability? They clipped and then like left like the rest of the context out. They didn't hear like mall really on Cardi. Like they didn't hear any of that, right?

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, we're getting to homie court early.

[Malcolm]

So I, I did not on get there.

[Damaris]

So that clip kind of went viral. Cardi's fans got a hold of it and Cardi obviously saw it and she felt some type of way because all she saw was Rory saying is Cardi gonna take accountability? Right? So she then drops in her broadcast on ig basically a paragraph saying no sympathy. Cuz I live and learn. I've been through worse in life but I went through so much and deceit and I don't tell my story and put these nasty on blast. Cuz I seen God handle every woman and the men that put tears in my eyes and pain in my heart in the worst way. When a white Rory talking about I need to be held accountable for he don't know one thing about it really makes me see red. This is not a competition. This is me taking baby steps to finally feeling happy. Seeing my sky blue with birds and trees again. Damn the dick good. Seeing my sky blue with birds and trees again of rainy instead of rainy days. I feel lightweight, motivated, in love with life, in love with love, in love with my career and most importantly, in love with my three kids no matter what. Shut the up you white before I light a match up your ass.

[Malcolm]

That's so like poetic.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, so I feel like my ass needs to be in the rafters at this point because Nikki put a broomstick up there and now Cardi B is putting a match.

[Malcolm]

Cardi's gonna like the, you know, the, the end of the broom that's hanging out your ass. Cardi's gonna like that.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, let's, let's Find the positives here. Can we be happy that I'll take the credit? You know what? Fuck it. I'm tired of being humble. I will take the credit in finding the one thing Cardi B and Nicki Minaj can agree on. And it's that I'm a white that deserves something in his ass.

[Malcolm]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

I ended the Nikki and Cardi beef based off their mutual hate. Hate for me. In agreement that I should not be speaking about anything cultural.

[Malcolm]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

So, yeah, I take pride in that. Okay. I think that's like something that I contributed to the culture. I brought Cardi and Nikki together. If you guys can never agree on anything else over here, at least we can find this place.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I never.

[Rory Farrell]

We come together here. We know.

[Malcolm]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

That we dislike this.

[Malcolm]

Share the same. Yes.

[Damaris]

You deserve to be sodomized. Yeah, I. I haven't seen.

[Rory Farrell]

Deserve to be sodomized is hilarious.

[Damaris]

I see Barbs and Bardi gang agree on anything ever in life. And they were. You had.

[Rory Farrell]

It takes a special type of complexion.

[Damaris]

To do that on your ass. I was like, I mean, in your ass, apparently. It was absolutely insane.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, what's funny is I'm still trying to get like some free data in my phone from the Swifties. What I also found funny is that the Swifties and what's. What's Cardi's Bar Gang, Barty Gang and the Swifties also agree with something. That I'm a white bitch. Yeah.

[Malcolm]

Yes.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, the Swifties are more racist than Barbara. I got called more racial things by the Swifties than anyone in Party Gang.

[Damaris]

Because they want to call you a. But they can't.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, exactly. So they call you white bitch instead.

[Rory Farrell]

And you know it's a white person behind the account.

[Malcolm]

100%.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Malcolm]

Self hate. Love it.

[Rory Farrell]

It's definitely self hate.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Damaris]

But I, I got. I got them up off your ass. I stood up for you.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes, Cardi did apologize. She said, oh, sorry, Rory, but it's. I understand. She. We all see clips and take things out of context and then she saw the real clip and you know, Smoke went to mall. But I'm here to disappoint like all of the Internet streets with like maturity. I know this was like a green light. I even saw the comments. For the first time ever, people were on my side like, damn, that was up. You didn't even say anything. Finally, this could be my moment to be like all the other media personalities and scream at the top of my fucking lungs. And I'd be right.

[Malcolm]

Right?

[Rory Farrell]

Women. Fucking women.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I could be that guy. I could threaten her, all that. But I did not go that route. Cardi B and I spoke, okay. For the whole afternoon. I won't reveal the entire conversation. It's a private conversation, but we had a great talk. And I think that can also happen in media. We don't all need to just scream at the camera because we get one little green light from one miscommunication. Now it's like, well, you can't dictate how someone replies, right? I can. Yeah. I can reach out. And I don't think it compromised anything. If Cardi B puts out a bad song that I don't like, I'll say I don't like it. It's not a great song.

[Damaris]

It's never happened, though.

[Rory Farrell]

That is. I mean, I agree, but I'm saying nothing was compromised because we had a great conversation and spoke.

[Malcolm]

I thought that was.

[Rory Farrell]

If there's going to be. If she puts out a great song, I say it's great. Bad song. Say it's bad. But I also think there's a world where people, especially if we are talking about Cardi B's personal life, has every right to have an opinion about how I speak about that. I'm talking about her life. So having a private convo with her that was calm and super positive and came to an understanding, that's fine, too.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs for clicks for one day, and then it's going to move on to the next person that's screaming at a woman.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, it's.

[Rory Farrell]

I just don't see anything in it. And I know all the Internet comments are going to be like, oh, it's compromised now. Trying to be cool, Cardi. Like, that's. That's so corny. I just think it was a cool human moment. She's going through something. We spoke about it. I talked to her about it, found understanding. We'll still always be objective. But it doesn't have to be a green light to start screaming at Cardi B now, because she said white bitch. And I also believe in double standards for everyone in that comments. What if Rory said black bitch? I'd say, get Rory the fuck out the paint. Like, double standards. I'm a big advocate of double standards. Double standards exist, absolutely. No, Cardi B calling me a white bitch is not the equivalent of Rory calling Cardi a black.

[Malcolm]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know where the y' all are getting that from.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, no, it's Definitely not.

[Rory Farrell]

But how would y' all feel if Rory said that they would feel upset, as they should.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I thought it was classy that she did say. She did apologize. Thought that was classy. But I did want to know if you were still a white, though.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I was actually, like, hoping, like, during our conversation on Saturday afternoon that, like, at the end she was going to double down. Like, but you still, like, are a white. Damn.

[Malcolm]

She didn't double down.

[Rory Farrell]

No.

[Malcolm]

Damn.

[Rory Farrell]

But shout out to Cardi. We had a great conversation. Maybe one day we can have her on the show.

[Malcolm]

Maybe one day. I would love to talk to Cardi. Big Bronx.

[Rory Farrell]

But that would be. She would come to see Damaris. Like, even though we had a good conversation, I'm well aware that. That my Cardi relationship is. I'm the plus one. Like, that's her homegirl. Yeah. Like, I'm just Damaris's friend.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't even think she said my name.

[Damaris]

That's why everybody was mad.

[Rory Farrell]

You Damaris, homie.

[Malcolm]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm like, Cardi, I've been on a podcast with you before in, like, 2015.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I think. I think Tax and Us was the first time he was ever on a podcast.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Shout out to cardiovascular.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. No, it was a great, mature. One of the more mature combos I've had in my podcasting career. Because we've talked about it. Plenty of artists have reached out and, like, had you had awkward moments? Despite that, the energy there was not that it was very much progressive. Like, oh, yeah, saw the wrong clip.

[Malcolm]

Mm.

[Rory Farrell]

But on my side, too, I was like, we was talking about your life. Like, you allowed to feel away. And especially my dumb ass white face.

[Malcolm]

I get it now. Damaris jumped in it.

[Rory Farrell]

This is the real shit.

[Malcolm]

This is. Yeah, yeah. This is where we scream, shout out to Cardi. What's Love to Cardi. We love Cardi. Now, here's where Damaris comes in at, and I.

[Rory Farrell]

And I quote, you've never said that in your life.

[Malcolm]

And I'm just saying, and I quote, oh, I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic. He wasn't being negative. Maul deserves this smoke. He was the one arguing with us. Now, what did I say that was negative or could be deemed negative about.

[Rory Farrell]

Cardi before we get there? Because, of course, we want to give the floor to Damaris to reply with this thought. Oh, I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic. He wasn't being negative, period. That's all the tweet Needed to be. It could have ended right there.

[Malcolm]

But we're gonna give the defendant.

[Rory Farrell]

I just want to show that the second sentence. Yeah, you still get the Cardi B apology. You still get the context.

[Malcolm]

You still lighten up a great thought.

[Rory Farrell]

She still protects a friend and a co worker from Bardi Gang. But it seemed a second sentence needed to be said as if the clip was not right below.

[Malcolm]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

The floor is yours, Senator.

[Damaris]

How is the floor mine?

[Malcolm]

What? What? Nigga you mean what? How you gonna say Maul deserves this?

[Damaris]

First of all, I also wanna let it be known that I was not the first person to say that. If you go to the response.

[Malcolm]

Nah, but you was the one that.

[Damaris]

Said everybody, every single person responded and said, wait, mall is the one going off. Everybody said that?

[Malcolm]

How did I. All right, so remind me, because y' all know I sit here and we talk about shit and kick it sometimes.

[Damaris]

Well, in comparison, you were the one saying Cardi's gonna look stupid when this man basically cheats on her and embarrasses her. This isn't the nigga she should pop out with. Yada yada. That's what you were saying?

[Malcolm]

That's talking about Cardi.

[Damaris]

No, it's not about talking, but you and her. You talking about her business when you don't exactly know what you're talking about, which was what she was saying in that paragraph. But to Rory, that's why I'm like, okay, but Rory isn't the one that said that. Maul is the one that did.

[Malcolm]

Rory said that Cardi needs to take accountability.

[Damaris]

Yes, but he. But he said, that's a question to Segue. He just said, that's a segue. And then he was like, nothing.

[Rory Farrell]

Cuz I said she.

[Malcolm]

But y' all saying I deserve to smoke. Like, I didn't say nothing negative about Cardi. I was just saying, like, yo, you know, Stefon Diggs has a. He has a reputation. He's a. He's a playboy.

[Damaris]

Okay, but you also said that she's going to look stupid. You listen, even if you truly believe that, you're right. Even if you are right, a person who you're sitting up there talking about their love life, their personal life, which is very personal, they have every right to respond to the way that you frame them looking stupid with dating who they're dating. When you're not in their bedroom, you're not in their phone, you don't know what's going on.

[Malcolm]

Okay, now let me say this. When you pop out and make the statement, that they did, that they're dating or they're together. Right now I have a podcast. I have a platform. It is directly my job to speak about that.

[Damaris]

I agree.

[Malcolm]

You made it a point to step out and make a statement. That was a statement. Going to a Nick playoff game, sitting courtside, two high profile people. That's a statement. We're together. So now I sat and I talked about it. All I was trying to say. Now I'm not saying maybe the words shouldn't have been, cardi's gonna look stupid. I want to say that I love Cardi. I don't want to say she's gonna look stupid, but meaning, like, okay, now if it pops up that Stephon is on a date with somebody else next week or caught creeping out of a hotel, another girl next week, you think people are not gonna flood Cardi's mentions and say, yo, like, ain't this your man? Is this your. The dude you was just dating? Is this.

[Damaris]

Of course. But I can't be.

[Malcolm]

That's all I'm speaking.

[Damaris]

I can't be mad at somebody. It is our job to have certain conversations about certain things, even things that we don't exactly care about. Right. But people have every right to respond. And I try to be more thoughtful.

[Malcolm]

Oh, yeah, people can respond. Like, it's never personal with me. Y' all know me. I don't know any of these people. Well, some of them I don't know personally. I don't know Cardi personally. I love and support Cardi. Cause she's from my city, she's from my town. So anything that she's doing, I'm supporting. But I don't know anybody personally most of the times when I'm talking about them. So it shouldn't be taken personal. Like, I'm not attacking anybody's personal. You know, things just saying, like, yo, you stepping out with a dude and you making this statement, this big statement, you know, coming off a divorce and this is the first guy that we see you with. You know, it's like, yo, I don't know. You know, homie, you know, Stephan is outside. He. He outside. Stephan Diggs is outside. That's not a secret. Like, he's moving around the city. He's shaking and baking. I don't know if this is the guy that maybe she should be seen with fresh off a divorce. That's all I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying.

[Rory Farrell]

All we were saying is we think that's the exact guy.

[Damaris]

Long story short, I ain't apologizing them all, man. You said. What the fuck you said. It's on tape.

[Malcolm]

Nah, you ratted.

[Damaris]

Nah, it's on tape.

[Malcolm]

Nah, you ratted.

[Damaris]

Boss Fear and loved our favorite rappers.

[Malcolm]

Nah, Rory got caught.

[Damaris]

Love the Internet and our favorite rappers.

[Malcolm]

Rory got caught.

[Rory Farrell]

It was on cctv, though. We got, like, the footage.

[Malcolm]

All right, cool. Rory got caught. Damaris told them where I was hiding at.

[Damaris]

That's fine.

[Malcolm]

That's ratting. And you right. Ratting is fine. Cause niggas get celebrated for being rats these days. So you absolutely right. Ratting is fine. You get. You snitch now. You get a podcast. You get a deal from all kind of sponsors. You get everything. Now when you snitch, I mean, I don't.

[Rory Farrell]

It's kind of like. It's like the gun of shit. I feel like what Damaris did. I mean, I understood the rat emoji that you would put up, but, like, she didn't go full like Sammy the bull. 6 9.

[Malcolm]

Did she drop my name?

[Rory Farrell]

It was.

[Malcolm]

Did she drop my name on the stand?

[Rory Farrell]

It was the gun.

[Malcolm]

Did she drop my name on the stand?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, she said names, but it was the plea. Like, it wasn't going to be used in the case. They had their evidence. She said it was a gunner situation.

[Malcolm]

She said, mal deserves this smoke.

[Rory Farrell]

YSL is a gang. Same thing.

[Malcolm]

No, it's not.

[Rory Farrell]

But it didn't affect the case.

[Malcolm]

She specifically named Mall. She didn't say, rory's not the one that deserves to smoke. Somebody else might deserve this.

[Damaris]

Oh, nigga, we know who somebody else is.

[Malcolm]

We know who Maul is, too. And that's exactly what you said. Mall deserves this smoke. That is rat 101. She bit the cheese. She took the cheese. Listen, she got her Pepsi, she got her chips, and she went in that interrogation room and she gave him everything.

[Rory Farrell]

It was like when 6ix9ine was on the stand. Like, you know, cardi Bs of blood, too. Like, sir, she has nothing to do with this case.

[Malcolm]

Nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with.

[Rory Farrell]

No, we don't need to know.

[Malcolm]

Had nothing to do with what Cardi was talking about?

[Rory Farrell]

No, he was shoddy in the case. What are you talking about?

[Malcolm]

He was the main person.

[Rory Farrell]

She.

[Malcolm]

She. She pointed out something you said. You said, she needs to take accountability. Cardi and her statement said. Talking about I need to be accountable. She's talking to something you said. Okay, about something Ma said and then. And. And. And. And. Or something you said and she said. I said it. No, I didn't say anything that Cardi felt was disrespectful.

[Rory Farrell]

Objectively, Maul is actually correct because Cardi did see the wrong clip. Not the one that too cool to blog posted. She saw the one you talking and then it ended with me saying, does Cardi need to take accountability? I don't even think Mall's in that clip period. So I don't even know if Cardi goes. I don't think Cardi goes to look at the other clip until Damaris puts that up because she replied directly to Damaris's tweet. So I don't. Mall may have a case right now in homie court.

[Malcolm]

That.

[Rory Farrell]

That may be ratting because it was a nuclear paperwork.

[Malcolm]

She put my name.

[Rory Farrell]

My name is my name.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, Mal deserves this smoke.

[Damaris]

See, I don't like the selective homie court.

[Malcolm]

How was the selective?

[Damaris]

Because I ain't bring you to homie court for shit that you did. I let you rock. I let you get away scot free me.

[Malcolm]

You what did I do?

[Damaris]

I ain't bring you to homie court. You came out here and started ratting on yourself and telling and apologizing and putting up statements. I never took you to homie core for what you deserve to go to homie core for what are you.

[Malcolm]

All right, so take me to homie court now. What are you talking about?

[Damaris]

No, it's not cool.

[Malcolm]

No, it ain't cool. No, no, no, no, no. So you can't bring. You can't bring that up? You can't bring that up. You can't bring that up.

[Damaris]

I already brought up a story.

[Malcolm]

If you don't bring something up and say I need to be a homie court. Say what? I need to be a homie.

[Damaris]

Everybody know what you went to, what you should have went to homie court for. But we already had a conversation for.

[Malcolm]

Laughing about a post.

[Damaris]

You went and doubled back and laughed again.

[Malcolm]

All I did was laugh again. I can't laugh. I laughed a laughed and I gotta go to homie court for laughing.

[Damaris]

No, I didn't bring you to homie court. I let it go.

[Malcolm]

Why you no. You saying I deserve to be a homie court though, for la charge.

[Damaris]

No, it was a charge.

[Malcolm]

We can't laugh.

[Damaris]

You can laugh about whatever you want.

[Malcolm]

Okay, so now go outside.

[Damaris]

For it.

[Malcolm]

Here's the difference. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. You said I deserve to go to homie core because I laughed, right? All I did was laugh an emoji. You put my name and said he Deserves smoke. Meaning not only did you put my name in the paperwork, but you was like, get this him.

[Damaris]

That's what that was.

[Malcolm]

You like, yo, nah, get him. He the one that deserve it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Malcolm]

Like, what was that about? Even me laughing and you said, mall deserves to smoke. Is not the even. That's not even at all. There's no. There's no even with that. Sorry.

[Damaris]

He bought you an actual hammer.

[Rory Farrell]

I asked Josh for the judge mallet, and he brought me this. Yeah, It's a lot going on right now.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. I think, Mal, there's a lot of strong points right now, but it did trigger something that has not been settled yet with the fake apologies that happened on this podcast months ago. I think we should finally clear the air, same way I did with Lex ten years later, and have that homie court of what, your LOLs.

[Malcolm]

Okay, so I can't laugh.

[Damaris]

You are free to do whatever.

[Malcolm]

No, no, no.

[Rory Farrell]

But you feel it's not gonna be a repeat of the other one.

[Malcolm]

See, see, I can't. Because obviously you felt the way about laughing emojis and cool. You entitled to feel the way about laughing emojis, but we not gonna say this is the same, though. We not gonna say this is the same. Mall deserves this smoke and me just laughing is not the same.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay?

[Malcolm]

No way in hell.

[Rory Farrell]

What do you think the difference is?

[Malcolm]

A laughing emoji was all I put. I just laughed.

[Damaris]

No, it ain't even about the original laughing emojis. It's about the fact that you went back and doubled back a week later and laughed again.

[Malcolm]

No, it was a whole different post.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I know, but it was a week later. A week after that post was posted.

[Malcolm]

But it was a funny post.

[Damaris]

Again, you wasn't still. You wasn't laughing for a week straight.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I was laughing. That was funny. That was funny.

[Rory Farrell]

See?

[Malcolm]

What? Somebody was just pointing out the hypocrisy, and I just laughed at it.

[Damaris]

And he knew it wasn't. That's. And that's my thing with Mall. That was my only issue with Ma is Ma knew that it wasn't hypocrisy because Ma was there for the conversation that we had, and he still went back.

[Malcolm]

It was a funny post. I just laughed.

[Damaris]

Ma, let's be real. You didn't even laugh at the second one because you hadn't even seen it when we.

[Malcolm]

I only can laugh at what I see.

[Damaris]

When we talked about the apology and Peach took it and clipped it up and made it seem like I was arguing, like, almost Like, I was arguing with my boyfriend and Peach made, like, a post for me to post about it. I posted it like, oh, this is what happens when you point a point of view. You already went through his phone, but he lying to you. You laughed at that. And then immediately after you laughed under my page, you went and commented on that.

[Malcolm]

Commented on what?

[Damaris]

On your man's post. You commented on my post, on my little meme that. That Peach made me. And then immediately after, you went and commented on Drake's thing.

[Malcolm]

I'm only commenting on what I see, though. I can't comment on things I don't see. Like, if I'm on my timeline and.

[Damaris]

I'm saying you thought I was being shady when I posted that. Real. That's why you was being shady. I wasn't being shady.

[Malcolm]

Get the out of here. Objection. He was being shady.

[Damaris]

Peach is right here. Peach is right here.

[Rory Farrell]

Stop leading the witness, Peach.

[Damaris]

I got an asset out of that apology. Peach created that asset. I didn't create the asset. Peach sent that to me and I said it looked like I'm arguing with my boyfriend. I then posted it and said, this is what happened. Like, he trying to. He trying to explain himself. But you already went through that phone. You're barely.

[Malcolm]

No, you said something about when you know he lying.

[Damaris]

That was the. That was underneath. That was the caption underneath. But on the actual post, I literally said, when you arguing with your boyfriend, but you already went through that phone. It had nothing to do with you. I wasn't being funny towards you. But when Peach clipped it up, that was. That was. But it's only your voice. Your face is not in it.

[Malcolm]

But I'm in it. My. My likeness is in it.

[Damaris]

You felt away and felt like I was trying to be funny.

[Malcolm]

My likeness wasn't in this. This here. I had nothing to do with this.

[Damaris]

Immediately, five minutes after you went and commented on Drake's post to be funny, you were not laughing in the moment you went to be funny.

[Malcolm]

I was laughing.

[Damaris]

All I did was admit that you were being funny.

[Malcolm]

I was laughing. It was funny to me. I laughed. Still, I'm trying to figure out how does laughing and a laughing emoji equate to being the same with loyalty on.

[Damaris]

The left, ain't no loyalty on the right.

[Malcolm]

I can't laug laugh. We talking about laughing.

[Damaris]

Listen, all is fair and love in our favorite rappers.

[Malcolm]

Nah, man. This is rat. This is rotten. I don't care what. Nobody mall deserves this smoke. That is rat and that is biting the cheese. That is asking for Pepsi and Doritos. That is ratting.

[Rory Farrell]

She's a civilian.

[Damaris]

When I said that, I didn't think you was gonna go to jail. You ain't in jail.

[Rory Farrell]

You. I have not seen any 1090, Jake.

[Malcolm]

Paper maul deserves this smoke.

[Damaris]

I had to distract for. I had to get my homeboy free. I'm YSL Woody. I had to get my homeboy.

[Malcolm]

Oh, my God. She just said she's ysl.

[Damaris]

I threw the case. I had to get my homeboy free.

[Rory Farrell]

It means I'm Young Thug.

[Malcolm]

Yo, what is that? Yo, that is crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Thanks.

[Malcolm]

Yo. That is crazy. I got ratted on, and they tried to tell me I did not get right.

[Damaris]

I throw the case. I threw the case. Pointed suspicion elsewhere. I knew you weren't gonna get brought up on charges, as you have it. So I did what I had to do for the podcast. And we might actually.

[Malcolm]

I was never in it.

[Damaris]

We might actually get a party interview.

[Malcolm]

Rory's needs to shut his white ass off. She didn't say anything about Maul. Maul's name is in no way in Cardi's paperwork at all. Only time Maul's name is mentioned in any paperwork is when Damaris submits her statement and says, and we're. Maul deserves this.

[Rory Farrell]

All free.

[Damaris]

And we're getting the first Cardi B interview when she.

[Malcolm]

I don't know if I'm free. I gotta go to the Bronx tonight. Them brims might catch me outside, like, in the night. Like, I don't know if I'm free. Why she keeps saying I'm free? I gotta go to Fordham tonight. Like, I might not be free.

[Rory Farrell]

Listen, man, Ace had to set up Rico. It was for the. It was for the betterment of the rat cast.

[Malcolm]

I'm out of here, dog. I'm out of here. Everybody cool with biting the cheese up here, man?

[Damaris]

Act like we ain't got another job.

[Malcolm]

N. Man. Man, that. Man, y' all tripping, man.

[Rory Farrell]

So you don't see any equivalent in those two things?

[Malcolm]

Me laughing emoji? No, no.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that dry snitching?

[Malcolm]

Look, the same thing she did after mentioning my name. See that? That's the same thing I put over Shorty's post when she posted her about Damaris. Those same. That same emoji.

[Rory Farrell]

But you knew. See, you could have taken the Damaris route with that girl because you guys are all ovo. That's team. She's team Cardi. So Cardi listened to her and realized she was wrong. You could have Talked to your sis. I don't know her name. What's her name? We don't need to get. All right, talk to your sis in the OVO group chat and be like, hey, you have this wrong. Damaris was taken out of context here. Like, you could have taken this route and been like, hey, he didn't want to do that. Hey, your smoke. Why would he do that? Your smoke is for DJ Head. It's not for Damaris.

[Malcolm]

Regardless if she was right or wrong, I just laughed at just the whole. The clip. I was just laughing at it. I didn't feel like she disrespected Damaris in that.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, I don't even, like, remember.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, no, she didn't.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm just stirring up for the fun.

[Malcolm]

She was just trying to point out hypocrisy, but she didn't. She didn't call. Now, she would have been on there trying to kick the man like this whack, bitch. She didn't do none of that. She didn't curse. She didn't call Damaris on her name.

[Damaris]

I think I was told that I only come out here and say. I say whatever y' all tell me for a check. Whatever y' all tell me to say, I say for a check. That's what I was told.

[Malcolm]

Did she say that in that clip?

[Damaris]

Not in that one. In another one.

[Malcolm]

Oh, I see. I don't. I'm talking about that clip.

[Damaris]

No, she went out for days and days and days.

[Malcolm]

Oh, I don't see most of that shit. I don't even see that one that I laughed at.

[Damaris]

But that's why you should stand with your peoples, because you don't even really be knowing what's going on.

[Malcolm]

The clip I keep going back to. I laughed at that clip. Whatever my emojis on, I'm laughing at that. That's it. My name is in paperwork right there. Mal deserves this smoke. How is that the same? I count.

[Rory Farrell]

The government should have redacted your name. I'm sorry.

[Malcolm]

I asked for the defendant to be thrown in the darkest cel.

[Rory Farrell]

And no, she has immunity. She snitched. She's with us.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You talking about good luck?

[Rory Farrell]

What. What would your witness protection name be? I don't know.

[Damaris]

Something like Ashley or Brenda. Oh, Victoria.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, it's funny. She brought up Ashley because that's why she should be in Homie Corp. We'll save that for Patreon.

[Damaris]

Nah. Talk about it.

[Malcolm]

Get your off.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. You think. You think that you defending me here? That you got free range to do Whatever. No.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Take the gavel. Take the gavel.

[Damaris]

Damn. Whole cast mad at me.

[Malcolm]

Yo, this the rat cast. We'll be back. We go pay some bills, get a word from my sponsors. We'll talk to y' all in a second. The rat cast is crazy. Jesus Christ.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, well, to make sure this is real, I will reach out to Whack 110 90. Jake. They'll get the full, proper research of Damaris to make sure.

[Malcolm]

We just saw the paperwork we got.

[Rory Farrell]

We have to triple check, man.

[Malcolm]

Nah. No, we don't. That's the problem. Y' all like to triple check people. I know Photoshop. That's a certain. That's a. That's a. What they call it with the blue check on Twitter.

[Rory Farrell]

Verified.

[Malcolm]

That's a verified account. Verified. Rat. Look at that. That's not verified.

[Damaris]

Listen, how's this. Okay, you know what?

[Rory Farrell]

All right.

[Damaris]

As a woman, I'll take accountability. I could have handled that differently.

[Malcolm]

That's all Rory was trying to tell Cardi. Look how we get.

[Rory Farrell]

I said that. See, now you get me in trouble with Cardi again. I didn't tell her how to handle anything.

[Damaris]

It's really him. He really. It's really him. He really. The problem where the.

[Malcolm]

I've been telling y' all, I think Cardi needs to be held, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Check his chest. Wearing some.

[Malcolm]

He got wild.

[Rory Farrell]

Check his sneakers.

[Malcolm]

Ain't that what you just said? Cardi needs to be held. Take accountability.

[Rory Farrell]

No. I asked Damaris, does Cardi need accountability? And she said, do you think that. And I said, no.

[Malcolm]

Oh, you say she don't need accountability?

[Rory Farrell]

No.

[Malcolm]

Okay. You do anything wrong? Well, what did you say?

[Damaris]

Damaris, As I. I apologize. I mean mine, though. I'm not just saying it. I mean my apology. I apologize. I did not have to throw you to the wolves. I just thought that that was a tactic to get, you know, my boy free. But I could have handled that better. I could have left your name out of the paperwork. So I apologize. Sincerely. That's how an apology is handled.

[Malcolm]

The first time the Knicks go to the playoffs in 26 years, and the woman just took accountability for the first time.

[Rory Farrell]

No. What's the. All right. May 19, 2025, 3:36pm Cardi B. Apologized to me, and Damaris apologized to you. Two women. Back to bed. Wow. I'm a little, like, misty in my eyes right now.

[Malcolm]

Cardi for president now.

[Rory Farrell]

Do you have anything to say?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that's all I wanted from the first.

[Rory Farrell]

Hey, Damaris, maybe I could have Just laughed by myself in the living room and not posted it to co sign the war that was going on between you and that person to add fuel to the fire.

[Malcolm]

Hey, Damaris, maybe I shouldn't have laughed out loud. I should have laughed in the living room and not added fuel to the fire again.

[Damaris]

We'll try it again. When you mean it, we'll try it again.

[Rory Farrell]

Six months.

[Malcolm]

I do six months time, man.

[Damaris]

We'll try it again. Six months from now.

[Malcolm]

Y' all don't take my apology.

[Rory Farrell]

Baby steps. Baby steps.

[Malcolm]

Y' all don't take my apology seriously. On here, man. On the rat cast, man, this is crazy, man.

[Damaris]

Actually, hold on. Can somebody hear me to gavel? Actually, I. I'll come get it or.

[Malcolm]

Bring it to get off. Yeah, I got.

[Damaris]

Actually got somebody else to bring the homie core. In fact, since we're hashing out things on this hash brown.

[Malcolm]

God damn it, I love me a hash brown.

[Rory Farrell]

And while she gets that together, in the meantime, if somebody snitches and no one goes to jail.

[Malcolm]

Nah, nah, we not see, because nobody attacked you. The rats always try to find a loophole.

[Rory Farrell]

Because yeah, she did, but they didn't attack you. Like you didn't get the sentence for her rattin. This was the first time in Stan culture that I even saw this, which takes a special type of complexion. Even after Cardi apologized, the comments under. From her own stands that listened to every last word she said for the first time said, nah, it's still. Fuck that white bitch.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they said, nah, fuck him. Don't apologize.

[Rory Farrell]

They didn't even listen to their leader.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, nah, fuck that.

[Rory Farrell]

They read and saw the clip of Molly's like, nah, more cool. Fuck that white bitch.

[Malcolm]

The white bitch reparations. Rory.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, listen, I agree.

[Damaris]

Damaris now in session. The people versus Rory Farrow.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes.

[Malcolm]

Get his white ass. Damaris, please.

[Damaris]

Because the only reason why I had to sit and endure Mall's fake ass apology is because you went and had a conversation with him. That I was upset.

[Malcolm]

Well, he's supposed to.

[Rory Farrell]

So.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no, no, no. But this is. This is the. Let's listen to this. I have been dealing with people calling me all types of sensitive asses because Rory went and stuck up for me because that's how he felt. He felt I should be stuck up for. I didn't go to Rory and crying and screaming and all. Rory came to me and he felt that I should be stuck up for. So I'm over here getting an apology like I was crying. Cause I. Cause I need an apology. When I said I'm not getting no apology from Maul. Cause Mal ain' But what it made it seem like to me, I mean, to everybody else and to the public, is that I was crying for an apology from all.

[Rory Farrell]

So I'm on trial for the court of public opinion.

[Malcolm]

Yes. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I ain't got shit to do with that.

[Damaris]

Because during that apology, you should have said Damaris wasn't crying for an apology. I feel like you owe the Maris an apology. Motherfucker's over here. Like, Damaris is really mad at Maul about.

[Rory Farrell]

I didn't think I needed to say on the mic that Maris was not crying for an apology. Because you weren't. So I didn't think that needed to even be said.

[Damaris]

That was that this is what the court of public opinion.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not that. So, Raven. I didn't envision what the comments were going to be the next day. I thought there was some internal tension, and I wanted everyone to peace up. I feel like the air is already clear. That's all it was. I didn't predict what the comments would be, that Damaris came crying for an apology because that wasn't the case. Sometimes I, like, deal too much in truth and don't realize what the Internet's going to view it as.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm like, well, this is what happens. So that's how the world's gonna see it.

[Malcolm]

And it's like, no, it never happens that way. Never happens that way.

[Damaris]

And actually, Peach, homie Josh, well, he.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, it's really Peach.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because when I sat here and was sitting through that apology, nobody sat there and said, ma, you was wrong. Everybody was quiet. Oh, Josh standing up. Josh said he said something.

[Rory Farrell]

And I mentioned, see, don't even put. Put him on, homie. Court. Cause I did tell you that Josh was in your corner. I said that.

[Malcolm]

Y' all realize that all I did was laugh? Like, laugh.

[Rory Farrell]

That's all I practiced.

[Malcolm]

I didn't say nothing. I didn't say, get her. I didn't say kill her. I didn't say any of these things. I just laughed.

[Rory Farrell]

So you don't mean the apology?

[Malcolm]

I told the marriage that. I told the marriage that if she felt the way about that, I apologize for that because that wasn't my attention. I wasn't trying to make the marriage feel away. But I also. The girl wasn't, like, crazy disrespectful towards Damaris.

[Damaris]

She was also just wrong.

[Malcolm]

Even if she. But I Just laughed or whether she's right or wrong. I just laughed. That's all I did.

[Damaris]

But that's. But where's the joke?

[Malcolm]

The joke was just in her cutting the video up. Like, literally, you in the middle of your video. And she'd be like, nah, hold up. Go over there with wap, wap, wap. It was just funny. I just laughed at that. Now, if she would have been on there coming at you, like, disrespecting you. And I laughed then. I can understand you feeling because now that somebody just straight up disrespecting you. But she just spliced the video that you posted and then took it back to some things you said months ago and then tried to just point out hypocrisy. I just thought it was funny that she did that. Now, again, if she would have been on there kicking your back in on a personal level. And I laughed then. 100% you. Yo, Maul, that's fucked up. But if I'm just laughing at somebody comparing what you. What you're doing today versus what you said a year ago, I'm just laughing at it. Like, that wasn't. I didn't see the big crime in that. So I did out. And I wasn't.

[Damaris]

The second one. The second one you went and laughed at, which was also a clip taken out of context because I was the first person on this episode, on this podcast to say that I liked sexy songs for you. I said that. They just clipped that out of the clip. You went and laughed at that, too. That wasn't even funny.

[Malcolm]

Damaris, you spent a year and a half laughing at any video calling me Dick Rider. This. That third dot, bop the dot. What I sat here and did, I would never. I took it all.

[Damaris]

I would never.

[Malcolm]

I accepted it all from the mountaintops.

[Damaris]

Of victory, like I said.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that a fact? Because I didn't see that.

[Malcolm]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

I never saw Daenerys laughing at anyone calling you a Dick Rider.

[Damaris]

Damaris.

[Malcolm]

Can't wait to laugh. Everybody was laughing at that. I didn't give a.

[Rory Farrell]

It's not like in here if we laugh with each other.

[Damaris]

With each other is complete. I would never laugh.

[Malcolm]

Laugh at you on the episode you laughed.

[Damaris]

I would never laugh at you on the Internet for.

[Malcolm]

On the episode. On the episode we laugh at each other.

[Rory Farrell]

What she's trying to say. If there was a post that. Yo, Mall, whatever.

[Damaris]

Like the miss was turning you into sexy red. I wasn't sitting up there. They was superimposing your head on sexy Red, bro. I wasn't sitting up there commenting underneath that, giggling and laughing and like that. I would never do anything like that because I'm never going to give somebody ammunition to be like, yo, even. Even as co host.

[Malcolm]

But that's my point. But that's my point. That would be them trying to disrespect me. Shorty wasn't trying to disrespect you, okay? In her post, she didn't say anything disrespectful at all. She didn't call you out your name.

[Damaris]

And you don't think that the biggest rapper in the world reposting that is grounds for that, especially back to back. You don't think that at all. You don't think that.

[Rory Farrell]

Which. Which greenlit a bunch of people to say extremely sexy.

[Damaris]

To this day, anytime I upload anything, I am harassed by Drake fans. Do I care? But you know that that opens up the floodgates for a whole bunch of things. There are also a whole bunch of people, my colleagues in this business, underneath your post, like, oh, damn. Even her boss laughing at her.

[Malcolm]

I'm laughing at the post. I wasn't laughing at you, Ma.

[Damaris]

Your intention is not always the point.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but I need you.

[Damaris]

But that's my.

[Malcolm]

But that's. That's what I'm trying to tell you, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. If I laugh at something, I'm just laughing. Now what you think I'm laughing at? Let's talk about that. I was just laughing at her, trying to point out a hypocrisy and taking something you just did and posting on TikTok versus something said on the show almost a year ago. I was just laughing at that. I wasn't laughing at her trying to make you look stupid or if she called you out your name like, no, that would be something. That's like, damn, that's fucked up. But she didn't disrespect you.

[Damaris]

But you didn't laugh under her post. You laughed under Sensitive Sally. No, you laugh under Sensitive Sally's repost. And you know that he was not reposting. You knew why he.

[Malcolm]

No, that was on the. That I laughed on the. What was that? The plot twist page.

[Damaris]

We know who plot twist is. We all know who plot twist is.

[Malcolm]

I don't know. It is what it is, but that's why. That's where I saw it at.

[Damaris]

See, this is why I can't have fake court.

[Rory Farrell]

What you mean? Let's do real court.

[Malcolm]

I'm telling you where I saw the Post at. I saw the post. I laughed at it. I'm not paying attention to. I don't want to.

[Damaris]

I don't want to draw this out. This was. This was Rory's homie Court.

[Malcolm]

But somehow I'm on the stand.

[Damaris]

Well, you got up there. You got on there and started.

[Malcolm]

Cause I got ratted on. My name is in paperwork. I was home chilling, and I see mall deserves smoke. I'm like, whoa, I didn't even tweet nothing all weekend.

[Rory Farrell]

Should have went to Bali.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, like Jesus Louise.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, court.

[Damaris]

Court is adjourned.

[Malcolm]

No, it's not. Get his ass some more.

[Damaris]

Court is adjourned. Nah, because. Because he's proven his loyalty. Word up. He's proven his loyalty. That's why I got him out.

[Malcolm]

I have. I haven't proven my loyalty.

[Damaris]

That's why I went and got him.

[Malcolm]

Hold on. I haven't proven my loyalty.

[Damaris]

Listen, Double listening. Double back on a laugh. Shit must have been really, really funny.

[Malcolm]

It was funny.

[Rory Farrell]

It must really funny.

[Malcolm]

Really should be funny sometimes.

[Damaris]

All right, so you know what was funny? Them barbs on your ass. I mean, them Cardi gang on your ass. That. That's what's funny. I laugh.

[Malcolm]

Cardig was on my ass.

[Damaris]

I laughed. That's why I was laughing. Emojis. That's what the fans was on your ass. I laughed.

[Malcolm]

When.

[Damaris]

Now we laughing.

[Malcolm]

Cardi Gang is on my ass right now.

[Damaris]

Bar Gang.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

For what you were saying? Hell yeah.

[Malcolm]

Oh, I didn't see none of it.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know about Jacky. Request dms. I'm sure they're threatening to kill you.

[Malcolm]

Smoke. I love cardi, man. Big Bronx. I always support to. I don't want no smoke.

[Damaris]

Well, now that we've saw, somebody from.

[Rory Farrell]

Bar Gang hit my request DM and said they was going to kill Amara. And I replied, oh, you must be a fan, cuz you know her name. I appreciate the support.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Keep listening every week.

[Malcolm]

Idiot.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you stupid.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. No warrior now.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Damaris]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

Yeah, it's just. It's a lot, but at least the.

[Rory Farrell]

Universe can balance itself out. But, yeah, I mean, that's just how. How the world works and how the universe works. Yin and yang. Joey Badass cleaned up the entire world, so the universe had to come back to us and humble us and balance everything out. That's cool.

[Malcolm]

I was chilling. What was that? Tuesday. And Josh text me. Hey, whenever Josh text me.

[Rory Farrell]

That was the tone of.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, whenever Josh, he said, hey, are you jumping on the Twitter Spaces tonight? And I had forgot that we had talked about doing the Twitter Spaces, just kind of talking about the whole Joey, Joey Halliburton, Joey Badass diss between Haliburton. I mean, it's just. He's kicking everybody's ass. But we had a Twitter Spaces out to everybody that joined the spaces and spoke. Shout out to Mickey Fax. Lloyd Banks was in the spaces. Reason, shout out to Gina Views. Who else am I missing? It was other people because I got there kind of late. I got there like, 45 minutes after y' all started.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I think you named. I mean, there was a bunch of people in there. It was. It was a great time.

[Damaris]

Over 12,000 people joined. So thank you to everybody. Joined.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, for sure. And again, apologies for my outburst. I'm. I'm resetting. I'm good now. All right. Twitter Spaces was amazing. I had a great time. It's always fun to talk about shit in. In real time with all, like, listeners and fans and everything. Like, it's fun on the podcast, but in real time, talking to the timeline, I find it extremely great to just talk with them. And we jumped the West Coast. We jumped Reason, and I felt like it was karma. West coast tried to jump Joey Badass. So Reason had to get jumped in Twitter Spaces. Then he tried to run and get Gina, but Gina's service didn't work. So Reason was sitting there getting his ass whooped, screaming for G and she's just. She has one bar.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

He can't even find the WI fi.

[Damaris]

He kept saying, like, put Gina on stage, Yo. Now she up there. She ain't talking. That ain't on me.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, let's. All right, we can tie this in with some of the recap. Reason was trying to suggest that everyone won in this and even Gina, who is very direct in how she feels, especially after the victory lap that the west coast had. And there is no middle ground. Gray area. It's either somebody won or lost. Said the fans won. The west coast look way different than it did in 2024. Now there's a gray area for everything. Now the fans won.

[Damaris]

I agree with them, though, but.

[Malcolm]

No, you don't.

[Damaris]

But I know I agreed on the spaces. I agree. When Gina was saying that Rayvon does not walk away with the L on this. He walks away with a W. I agree with them when they said that.

[Malcolm]

He walks away with a W because he's getting interviews.

[Damaris]

No, it's not. He lost the battle, and that's what we were trying to get across to you.

[Malcolm]

When did he win?

[Damaris]

He lost a battle. He won a whole bunch of publicity and attention that he didn't have before.

[Malcolm]

Going with that clout chasing.

[Damaris]

When you're a. But you bring up all the time that when you're a rapper, you need that, like, for your career. More people are now listening to Rayvon, which is well deserved because he is very talented. More people are now listening to him than ever before.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but don't mention that in a battle. We know you're right and Gina is right in saying that. But don't mention that in a battle.

[Rory Farrell]

Battle.

[Malcolm]

Don't tell me that he's getting interviews and his streams is going up. And I. Don't tell me that during the battle. We know that. We know that's gonna happen.

[Damaris]

It wasn't during the battle. The battle was over. He lost. That's the general.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. But as a result. As a result of the battle, he's getting interviews, his streams are going up, and I'm cool. Great. I'm not, you know, I don't. Regardless of what Rayvon thinks about me, like, I'm not mad at his. Like, I want to see him be successful. He's another black.

[Rory Farrell]

Doesn't affect your life.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. At all. Either way, he's another black dude. Like, I support that.

[Damaris]

Sorry. He's another black dude.

[Malcolm]

As funny as. Yeah, like, I got. I support my black. I support my black people. Like, I support him. I don't I may not like him, but I support him. Right.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. I don't think you dislike him. I don't think you have any feelings.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I don't have any feelings about Rayvon. I could care less. But what I'm saying is. Don't tell me during a battle or after battle. It's okay, it's okay. That's just.

[Damaris]

Today is just not his day.

[Malcolm]

That's just. See, don't let it. Don't let it take you there. Don't let it take you to that space.

[Rory Farrell]

I always felt that Reggie's sister was way than he was. I just want to put that out there.

[Malcolm]

I know the greatest Miller of all time. But yes, Rayvon stream numbers go up, things like that. We know that. But to mention that during a battle, when we're. And when we're talking about Joey Badass winning and defeating everybody that stood in front of him or threw shots at him, it's like, come. Don't do that right here. Don't tell me what the numbers are. Don't tell me what the streams are right now. Don't. I don't care about that. That. I'm talking about the records and the bars that were put forth in a battle. That's all I'm talking about. Don't tell me that. Y n. But, you know, he getting three interviews tomorrow and he going in the street. I don't.

[Damaris]

But they also said that it's closer than the New Yorkers are making it. No, it's like he didn't get his ass.

[Malcolm]

It's worse. It's worser. It's worse than the LA LA aliens are making it appear to be.

[Rory Farrell]

And that's where I know, like, like I'm so sick of people saying New York bias, because that is not the case here. The west coast bias was showing so much because we respected Rayon.

[Damaris]

A little crazy. Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

First. First diss. I thought it was great. I thought it was really close. After Joey did the finals, I still felt like Joey edged him out in that first round. But then when you get to the town, my town, and then the follow up is the Golden Eye record and the west coast is trying to tell me it's still close.

[Damaris]

The west coast was saying the Golden Eye record was like. They were like, oh, yo, that's the one. I'm like, like it's saying, no, it's.

[Rory Farrell]

Not saying he's gay in 20 different ways. Over a bad flip of the back down beat is not close in the battle. It's just not. After Joey and loaded Lux. Clean everybody up.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. No, it's. It's not close.

[Rory Farrell]

Even Daylight's AO that came out after, which was way better than his first one, probably my favorite one that that light put out. It may be in the top three of this battle. Still didn't hit. It was over after My Town came out. I don't care what you put out after. Put out a whole mixtape. It's done.

[Malcolm]

Listen. It's over. I don't care to hear any more records about this or coming out of this. It's just one of those things that was a moment. It was cool. All of the rappers, all of the MCs put their best work forward. Let the people decide. It's decided. It's not closed. Joey cleaned everybody up. Everybody go back to their respective corners. Work on your music. Put out your music. Do whatever it is you was doing before. But I don't wanna talk about this battle no more. It's not even a battle.

[Rory Farrell]

I like to. I. I did kind of sigh when I saw that Daylight put out another record either this morning or last night. The end credits joint. But I actually thought it was a cool way to end the entire battle. He just recapped everything that happened. Like I thought that was cool to really end everything because even I was starting to get drained as somebody that was trying to instigate every rapper to get in to this battle. I started to get exhausted. I was like, all right, man. I can't. I can't listen to another one. This is. This has gone way too far. And even to.

[Malcolm]

To.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm happy that Rayvon definitely stopped and I saw that he posted like a live performance. I'm with Gina in Reason on. Okay. It's kind of a win for him for the eyes. But if he doesn't do anything with the eyes because I feel like attention these days is cheap. They just move on to the next thing. So, yeah, he could have 500,000 impressions, but they're just going to move on to the next thing. He doesn't capitalize. So I can't say. I can say for sure. Rayvon lost this battle. But on the other side, I can't say it was a win for him. Him. Unless he capitalizes off the eyes that are on him.

[Malcolm]

Because it's not a win for him even if you do that. He lost the battle, period. That's it.

[Rory Farrell]

But we're talking about the separate who takes away from. But he has to capitalize. All those eyes that were looking at him now need to continue with or at least, you know, a percentage of them need to move on with Rayvon, with his career, and keep following him. Then I'll be like, all right, cool. That was a way to get more fans and more attention on you. But if you just do a battle and then everyone moves on to the next thing. You took two Ls, in my opinion, you didn't even use the marketing that was set up for you by Top. If you don't capitalize off that, that's two L's to me. Yeah, I hope that doesn't happen, because like Demer said, I think he's talented and deserves eyes on him. I hope he uses it to, you know, better his career, because he's a good rapper. But if he doesn't, that's two Ls.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but just stop saying it's a W for him. If he puts. If he capitalizes, it's not. Yeah, you always capitalize as an artist. Put out good music, capitalize off the moment, capitalize off the opportunity to release music. Music. But the battle is the battle. All of y' all lost. Joey cleaned everybody up. I hope everybody comes out of this and does everything that they want to do in music. I hope everybody's successful. But I ain't gonna be like, yo, Nah. But he ain't. He ain't really lose the battle. Cause, you know, he. He put out a classic joint after the. Nah, he lost. He lost.

[Rory Farrell]

Which is fine.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, no, it's. Of course it's fine. You win or you lose. They lost.

[Rory Farrell]

Cause even if, like Damaris, back to your point that you were saying to Mal of, all right, if his streams go up, more attention goes up then. And that's a win. That's kind of like saying, okay, Drake didn't lose because he was still the most streamed artist at the end of the year. It's like, nah, he still took an L. By the court of public opinion, I was.

[Malcolm]

I didn't want to bring that up, but I was looking at you, waiting for you to be like, but you. You being by the court of public.

[Rory Farrell]

Opinion, Drake took an L. But at the end of the year, he was the highest streamed artist of the year. And no one went, oh, never mind. Drake didn't take enough. But that's so.

[Damaris]

That's completely different because that's completely, completely different. Because Drake had. And we said this before the battle, Drake had nowhere to go but down. There was nothing he could have gained from this battle other than when we mentioned during the DJ Head interview, the. He could completely Kill that boogeyman. Like, I'm the real boogeyman. That was the only thing that he had to gain from this to gather.

[Rory Farrell]

If he beat Kendrick, I had said he, he, he would be in the absolute conversation of one of the greatest.

[Damaris]

Rappers of all time.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, if he cleans. If he cleaned up, like, yeah, that would have been like, yeah.

[Damaris]

But that was the only accolade already here.

[Rory Farrell]

But now he's got.

[Damaris]

That was the only accolade he had to gain. Right. Which is a big accolade. But he's already at the top with Rayon. Rayvon had nowhere to go but up. So that's why I think that that's streaming numbers.

[Rory Farrell]

You can't say someone didn't take a L just because they got more streaming.

[Damaris]

But nobody said that he didn't take a L. Hell, okay, nobody. Yeah, nobody.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, I mean, literally the entire west coast thinks that shit was better than Ether and Takeover.

[Malcolm]

He's stupid.

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, I, I, I can really appreciate, as New York crab in the barrel, like, we don't stick together. I do admire how much the west coast will defend blindly knowing they sound insane and still be like, nah, Ray cleaned everybody up.

[Damaris]

So what?

[Rory Farrell]

I, I can appreciate that type of support.

[Damaris]

I don't think that it's blindly. I do think that we have different opinions on what music sounds better because we do have different sounds. So I do think that they truly believe that it was closer than it was because they might value Ray's swag more than they value Joey Badass.

[Rory Farrell]

What was the name of the Daylight record that he had the chopped cheese as the artwork that Daylight even took off his own YouTube page. I want to lend some west coast ears so they can tell me if that sounds good. I'm cool with having different ears if that. If that sounds good to y' all.

[Damaris]

Listen.

[Malcolm]

N. That wasn't.

[Damaris]

I didn't even really see them standing up for Daylight. I saw them really standing up for Ray.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, that's. And, and that's actually what I want to talk about. I'm glad you brought that up. The only person I felt actually had something to lose in this battle for real, was Daylight. Cuz us even came in here, we were shaking for Joey, cuz he has rightfully so. He's proven the status of being an alien. He's one of those. We look. We revered Daylight's penalty probably more than most rappers, period.

[Malcolm]

Well, because he's a battle rapper and.

[Rory Farrell]

The expectations were so high for him. How he delivered was so underwhelming. I Felt like that was kind of the only real L that somebody could have taken in this. Because like the mayor said, the only place you can go is up. Joey's still gonna be. Joey's still gonna act no matter what. Daylight's brand, I think, was the only one that was kind of like, damn, that was underwhelming. We had no expectations for Ray.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Even with Joey Badass. We, like, we know Joey could rap. He's great mc, but we. He's not super battle tested. We didn't even have the highest, highest expectations for. For Joey Daylight, though. Yeah, he's the only one, I think really took like a brand loss. Like, damn. I'm never gonna forget this part about Daylight. But I only had nothing but amazing things with Daylight. And, like, everyone should be terrified of Daylight. When Daylight shows up, everyone should leave the park. He's that good of a rapper. Now. I still think that about Daylight, but this was like.

[Malcolm]

I think what we learned in it is you can be a battle rapper, but when it comes time to battle rap on records with music, you know, having flows and things like that, it's a different ball game. I think that Daylight is just the cerebral thing works on a battle rap stage. Cause you get to kind of be performative and you get the, you know, the theatrics of battle rap. So that whole cerebral angle is. It lands better on stage. The cerebral, you know, I am a God. All of that on wax in a battle is not, I think, battle rap, you have to be a little more cool. I think you have to be a little cooler in battle rap. I think you have to be a little more charismatic. I think you gotta be a little more witty.

[Rory Farrell]

You can still be putting on a performance for real. It's a performance.

[Malcolm]

But you can't be like, Daylight's thing is too. You know, it's too much of his own world that he creates in his music. And on wax, it doesn't land the same as on stage. I can kind of perform and create this whole thing where you kind of. I'm bringing you into my world, you know, with the music and on a diss record, it's just. It doesn't land the same. And that was the disappointing part for me. Listening to Light, I was like, it's not landing the same. If I take the music away and put Light on stage with Joey Badass and let Light perform this, then it might look a little. And look and feel a little differently. But on just listening to the music, it didn't land. Again, his battle Rap career, I think, takes a hit now because all the battle rappers have incredible ammunition now to kind of like go at Light if they battle. Now. I still think Light is a dangerous opponent for anybody, of course, because he's obviously talented. But I do think that coming out of this moment now, other battle rappers have ammunition, which is why it was so clever for Joey Badass to put Lux on the record.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Malcolm]

To kind of like, you know, allude to that.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, Lux floated on that shit, you understand?

[Malcolm]

Like Lux can on music. But you see, because Lux is a little more charismatic. He's a little cool in the things that he's saying and how he frames his bars and things like that. It's not as Lux can get into that cerebral zone too, but I think he knows how to turn it off a little bit when it's like on in the music.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, Lux even knows how to dumb it down at the right times because we know Lux can leave Earth the way Daylight. They're actually very similar in that way of leaving Earth. But Lux some is. I mean, his most famous round ever was Dumbed Down. He repeated that. He made a hook at it. She repeated the same thing 15 times. And that's one of his best shits ever, because he knows when to dumb it down. And we were talking on Twitter, spaces. The hip hop purists are gonna just have to have to face the reality that in the history of battling the simple wins. Yeah, it's not who's the best rapper. You have to simp. The most famous battle lines that we all go back to are very, very simple. Even from the most lyrical rappers like Beans and Kiss, dumb down their own. And that's one of my favorite battles ever. Even Hoven Nas, they were. They weren't going lyrical miracle. 10,000 different metaphors. And we were like, oh, he's the winner. Because he had more metaphors here. Now you got to dumb that down. What's going to hit, what's going to land, what punch is going to matter?

[Malcolm]

I mean, I think that's your girl.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that your toy? Your girl's toy? Like, that was a finisher. And then Meat got came back and barred it the fuck up. And it was like, nah, I'm cool.

[Malcolm]

I think that was nothing that like.

[Rory Farrell]

That we can repeat.

[Malcolm]

I think a lot of that relates to the Drake Kendrick thing. I think not like us is a dumb down. Just this record, like, it's nothing to think about. You get it as soon as you hear it. It's a hook. Look, it's you know, I mean like so I think.

[Rory Farrell]

But so the bridge is over.

[Malcolm]

Right? Right.

[Rory Farrell]

Is that KRS's most lyrical performance?

[Malcolm]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

Purposely.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

He made a fucking hit and that was the bar. The bridge is over. Sorry. Queensbridge.

[Malcolm]

Right.

[Rory Farrell]

Fucking buried a whole borough for 10 years because he just said the bridge is over. That's where I think because you know, I'm the on the side of the nerds. But I don't want to go through every single daylight metaphor when I can just listen to my town and clearly see who's winning right now. Right? Beats do matter.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Music, like music matters in the battle.

[Rory Farrell]

Like what are we talking about? Cuz someone even said that on Spaces. She was of course from the west coast, was bringing up daylight bars and like oh, Joey just picked a better beat. Okay. Why is that not a stat?

[Malcolm]

Right?

[Rory Farrell]

It's a music battle. Like music's now not important.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, they're musicians. New warrior now. So we all made mistakes, right? But owning up to them, it's the right thing to do do. But we all know Degree Cool Rush deodorant well last year they changed the formula and it did not go over well with the fans, the grease, whole thing. It turns up sweat and other protection when you turn up the effort. And good thing it does because Cool Rush fans really turned up the effort to bring back the OG formula. One guy even started online petition and degree listen, they admitted they effed up and are bringing back that OG Cool Rush sent back and it's exactly how you remember it.

[Rory Farrell]

Cool, crisp and fresh.

[Malcolm]

It's back at Walmart, Target and other stores for under $4. There's a reason why it's been the.

[Rory Farrell]

Number one men's antiperspirant for the last decade.

[Malcolm]

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[Malcolm]

Do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

[Damaris]

I have a question and a quick story about a man, but he's based in New York, so I'm not giving a ton of context here.

[Rory Farrell]

I apologize.

[Damaris]

So you guys have been around men.

[Rory Farrell]

With different degrees of access.

[Damaris]

My theory, and I could be wrong. I'm asking, is that if a man when he was younger was in a position to exchange his money for women's convenience and time. No, they were just there. The money was there. I get it.

[Rory Farrell]

Whatever.

[Damaris]

Do you think that man would be very good at dealing with a quote unquote normal girl as I've been described? I'm cool with that in the future. Or would it just be too hard.

[Rory Farrell]

Once you've had that convenience?

[Damaris]

And for the funny part, I was out last night with this individual. He's telling me he does all this reading now. It's really important to him.

[Rory Farrell]

Time away from the phone.

[Damaris]

I'm like, oh cool, what are you reading?

[Rory Farrell]

The man says, mein Kampf.

[Damaris]

I said, oh my God, I heard you wrong. I thought you said that Hitler book. He said, no, yeah, that one. Like, it's really interesting to see where people started out. And I'm not Offended by it.

[Rory Farrell]

But of all the books, I wish.

[Damaris]

You had seen my damn face. Just send you guys lots of love. This isn't even that serious.

[Malcolm]

I'm already over this guy.

[Damaris]

So thoughts, theories, concerns, I have them.

[Rory Farrell]

Maybe he's a history buff.

[Damaris]

I don't like my red flags to scissor.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, don't like crazy left.

[Damaris]

No, but I don't like my red flags to bump coochies. Like, why do you have more than one huge red flag? Like, just have one huge red flag. Maybe I could drive past it. But you got two big ass.

[Rory Farrell]

I fully understand reading my cough would be a red flag for somebody. What's the second one that he.

[Damaris]

The majority of the relationships in his life he's paid for. They have been like, prostitutes. Like, he pays for women, but he.

[Rory Farrell]

Wasn'T in relationships with that. He was just buying pussy.

[Damaris]

Yes, but that's. He's never had. Like, he's not known for having regular women. He just buys. That is a red flag when you're trying to get into a relationship with somebody.

[Rory Farrell]

But when she was saying, what would it be like to date a normal woman? I'll give the other side of this coin. Coin. The main real reason for prostitutes is for men in normal relationships to cheat without any problems.

[Damaris]

But that's not his.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, it's four people in normal relationships.

[Damaris]

Yes, that's what.

[Rory Farrell]

That's what people. Men do that.

[Malcolm]

Why do people say that?

[Rory Farrell]

Who do you think prostitutes the most? Married men or single men?

[Malcolm]

I think both.

[Damaris]

I think both. I don't think that's a specialty.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that's why I don't understand. People say, oh, you know, guys that are in relationships, are married, they have sex with prostitutes because they don't want no problems. We see mad prostitutes cause problems every day on the top one. We see mad prostitutes do ig. IG lives and tell everything that happened and expose text messages. We see that all the time.

[Rory Farrell]

Remember the golden era when people were paying for pussy in return for silence? Now you're paying for a problem.

[Malcolm]

You're paying for a problem. You're paying. She want to roll out. She want to Rolex. She want like, she want roll. She want all kind of rolls.

[Rory Farrell]

How I paid for stress cinnamon rolls.

[Malcolm]

She want everything. Everything.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay, but I mean, she did mention he was a man of access, but usually that only happens with men that have a high status and they're trying to get some attention based off saying, hey, I was this guy, he was flying me paying for this and that. You know, that's Usually when we see. When prostitutes or escorts do that, it's for an NBA player. But if it's just a guy that may have a few dollars and some access, I don't know if prostitutes doing that. But I mean, this POD is not the one to be well versed in buying. But I've always felt that prostitutes were there more for married men than anyone else. Like, they're dating norm. Like they're in a normal relationship and it's not working. So they, instead of confined into a regular woman, they just go buy some.

[Malcolm]

I like.

[Rory Farrell]

I like, get it out their system.

[Malcolm]

I like that you feel like you said that. I feel like prostitutes are there for married men because I could promise you a prostitute is not going to be like, you married, right?

[Rory Farrell]

No, no, they're not.

[Malcolm]

If you ain't, that's the thing. If you ain't, I ain't giving you no pussy.

[Rory Farrell]

No, I'm just saying the highest clip of, like, why they're so in demand is more for men that are trying to escape for a second within their relationship where, you know, cheating is messy. If. Especially if you're, like, really talking to somebody else, that's where things get crazy. But if you just say, yo, here's a hundred dollars, because I. I mean, can't be that expensive these days. This is plummeting. I feel like on the n. No.

[Damaris]

Has actually gotten more expensive.

[Rory Farrell]

Good for. All right, Great for inflation.

[Malcolm]

That's America.

[Rory Farrell]

You're filling up your tank with these prices to just go buy. Inflated.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. I don't know how these guys burger.

[Rory Farrell]

But that's usually what men would do. Like, I know in this situation, I'm paying for something. It's a transaction. This girl won't text me. She won't show up my house. Like, that's what I always felt that was for. Because we've been in strip clubs that aren't like, say, starlets or like, you know, real strip clubs. It's usually like older businessmen that are probably truck drivers that are probably married. So I think there's a world where a man that did prostitutes, like, could just date a normal girl. He may. He may still those prostitutes, but I don't know if it's red flag that.

[Malcolm]

He'S dated them or if you love, you know. Great story. One of my favorite movies of all time, Pretty Woman. He got tired of dating normal women and married. Wanted to marry a prostitute.

[Rory Farrell]

We had Clay up here said he prefers promiscuous women. I think in this day and age, that's probably more normal than it's ever been. That men are just like. At this point, I don't even care. Matter of fact, let me go with the horror, because there's no surprises. I already know she's one.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. But I feel like men that only date promiscuous women, My ego's not built for that.

[Damaris]

I don't know how to say it.

[Malcolm]

Mom said something there, man. Something a little funny about that. Like, why you only like promiscuous women?

[Rory Farrell]

Because they.

[Damaris]

Well, in their minds, they're more fun, they're more open, they're more freaky, they're more experienced. And by promiscuous women, we're not just saying prostitutes. There's women that are promiscuous who don't sell it. Sometimes it's free, but they feel like they're more fun. But y' all have always said that hoes were fun.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but I know regular girls that ain't hoes that are fun too.

[Rory Farrell]

And I know non promiscuous women that once you have an actual interaction with them and start dating for real, they're freakier than the oars. It's like, to me, it's more. I know where Maul is taking it, and I actually hope he lands that plane because I want. I know what he's trying to say. I know he's not saying it.

[Damaris]

That's why I said.

[Rory Farrell]

But I also think those men are also sort of like lazy because it's easy. Like, they're treating it more like a high and a dopamine shit.

[Damaris]

Like, they don't want to put work.

[Rory Farrell]

The work. There's no work or effort involved. Like, I'll go with promiscuous women because I know I could just be in like.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I've had that. I had that phase where it was just like, promiscuous women because, you know, they're not looking for nothing serious. They're not looking to be tied down in a relationship, which is fine.

[Rory Farrell]

This isn't a slut shaming thing. I think people should do whatever the fuck they want.

[Malcolm]

But I mean, when you just like. Like that's all you want, it's just like, yo, you all right? What you going through, man? What's up? Like, that's all you want to date is promiscuous woman. Cuz I. I had a stage where I would date a lot of promiscuous women. But if I, in that moment, in that time, met a girl that was like a really good girl and was like, I would absolutely date her and be like, yo, I like her. Like she's cool.

[Damaris]

Like, yeah, you would date her but you wouldn't stop. You would. Would you have been faithful to her or you would have just dated her and walked her? Like was.

[Malcolm]

No, no, I was. It was, it was a time I was dating somebody seriously in my, in my whole face, if you want to call it that. Absolutely.

[Rory Farrell]

Why you do that, girl like that?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Malcolm]

No, I didn't. No. I mean I should have told her.

[Rory Farrell]

The, the filthy ran through man that you were.

[Malcolm]

Oh no, she knew that. She knew. She. She knows she saved me.

[Rory Farrell]

She didn't even know she had community dick. That's crazy.

[Malcolm]

No, she knew.

[Rory Farrell]

Beside though, every mall, everybody had that.

[Malcolm]

Nah, nah, that See, nah, don't do that. We're not gonna say everybody. Not everybody.

[Rory Farrell]

That's how you was raised.

[Malcolm]

Not everybody. But some women that shouldn't have. Absolutely, absolutely.

[Damaris]

Knowing you got community dick is like just why you signing up for? That's self hate. Why are you.

[Malcolm]

Y' all want community dick though?

[Rory Farrell]

I was about to. Let's not make this.

[Malcolm]

How much time we got, Josh? Y' all women like community dick.

[Damaris]

They do like it.

[Malcolm]

They do like it.

[Damaris]

But it's because I feel like women like it until you locked in like.

[Malcolm]

You, you'll get it. Until you get it and feel like you could stop it from being community dick and lock him down and have a family and have a house and home with him and then you realize like girl, ain't no changing.

[Damaris]

You see just how bad it is. Like until you see just how much how involved the is in the community. Like what the ties to the community are.

[Malcolm]

President of Neighborhood Watch.

[Damaris]

That should have you crying, throwing up and at the same time.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, no, he's. He's ghost in the last season.

[Malcolm]

He's.

[Rory Farrell]

He's going for political daughter got killed, didn't cry.

[Malcolm]

Savage got killed, went crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

Like he's. He's cutting ribbons in front of salons. Like he's that involved.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

He's trying to clean up the community.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Rory Farrell]

But don't do that cuz the same way we're on men for going after the promiscuous women because sometimes they can be more fun or easy. Don't act like women that are not even hoes have a phase where they go after community dick because community dick's fun. You're going to go on a date at 6 o' clock and not get home till 4am you're going to go to three, four different spots. Community Dick is fun.

[Malcolm]

Peach cut the baby, dude. There you go. Look at her face, right? So you gonna have some of the.

[Rory Farrell]

Best dates of your life with Community Dick. He know all the spots. He know the waitresses.

[Damaris]

It's not worth it. It's not worth it, though.

[Rory Farrell]

He got the spot.

[Malcolm]

I mean, it's a fun moment, fun time, but y' all just getting y' all feelings, and y' all be like, yo, I just want him for myself, and he ain't. You know what I'm saying? He not ready to retire.

[Rory Farrell]

You've definitely went out with the guy that called the promoter twin, but you got a section in the bottle, and it was four fun.

[Damaris]

I've never in my life went out with a man that called the promoter twin.

[Malcolm]

Him and the promote. Him and the promoter got their own secret handshake.

[Rory Farrell]

You.

[Malcolm]

You walked in with.

[Damaris]

See, I think y' all make me look nasty. Make me look nasty. That's. That's gross.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't do that. Yeah, he community dick, but. But you on the riser at the Drake show, so.

[Damaris]

Y' all.

[Rory Farrell]

I. God is still, you know, God is still working on me.

[Malcolm]

God is watching us. I'm just from a distance. Remember that? That was my. In church.

[Rory Farrell]

That was a lifetime ago. I don't even remember that person. Yeah, I'm sure that was a whole entire. I don't even like that. That didn't even happen.

[Malcolm]

Did we help this young lady out at all?

[Rory Farrell]

She left him.

[Damaris]

She said she left him. But no, baby, them was two red flags. It's two. Two big red flags. Stay away from.

[Malcolm]

Stay away from.

[Rory Farrell]

I've never read that book. Like, what is it. It really about?

[Damaris]

Don't look at me.

[Rory Farrell]

I know, like, the history that, like, Hitler. He didn't write it right. He was just, like, into it. That's, like, what sparked the idea. Oh, he just straight up wrote it. Wow. Yeah. Maybe he's a history buff. I've watched some Hitler's documentary. I watched Hunters.

[Damaris]

I wouldn't be mad. I would.

[Malcolm]

Why is that a red flag?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I would read that.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Not to, like, be like, oh, this guy's making great points, but it's a very historical thing.

[Malcolm]

Now, if I told you I'm reading that book and you come over and the documentary is on, then it's like, I fam.

[Damaris]

Are you taking notes?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, you all the way.

[Rory Farrell]

But, yeah, I see it as a red flag where you'd have to ask a few questions, like, damaris, you have the garage code of miles. Let's Say you just came in, didn't tell me, and I was upstairs, like, just watching Roots by myself. You'd have some questions.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that's a long ass, that movie. Three weeks long. Yeah, that movie with commercials. He watching it with commercial.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Malcolm]

Yo. Watching commercials.

[Damaris]

That is law and Order at that point.

[Rory Farrell]

And, like, historical. Don't get me wrong. Classic. But, like, why are you watching this by yourself? Yeah, like, I gotta know why.

[Malcolm]

What's going on? Yeah, what's happening?

[Rory Farrell]

It could be innocent.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

But nah, What's. What's going on here?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I need this. Questions. Definitely. Definitely some questions.

[Rory Farrell]

Or if, like, every time teaching you come over. I'm watching.

[Malcolm]

Yo, look at the book. The overview on the. On the minecamp F book 81. Like this book. See?

[Rory Farrell]

And this is why Kanye said he's no longer anti Semitic.

[Malcolm]

Exactly.

[Rory Farrell]

He's such a hipster.

[Malcolm]

He's sort of 81.

[Rory Farrell]

People like, nah, too much into this. Anti Semitism.

[Malcolm]

I don't like it.

[Rory Farrell]

He. He always goes against the grain. Now that it's being popular, he's like, no, I want.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, now that. Y' all like the Hell Hitler song. He like, man, nah, nah, I'm cool. I'm off that. Yeah. We ain't doing.

[Damaris]

I'm off that. But, yeah, I don't think we helped this young lady at all. But what the.

[Malcolm]

She helped herself. She left him, right?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. She stopped dealing with the time. It was.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, she knew what it was.

[Damaris]

Us.

[Malcolm]

It's all good. Shout out to that young lady.

[Rory Farrell]

But also, I believe in transparency in.

[Malcolm]

Relationships, but I thought she was about to say something else, but go ahead.

[Rory Farrell]

No, land your point from before.

[Malcolm]

No, no, no. Land your point from. I'm a change, man. Look at the range, man.

[Damaris]

I got a whole new game.

[Malcolm]

Got a whole new game plan.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm leaving out that. Like, I purchased a. If you get into. Know a girl and you were, like, a serious serial purchaser, is that, like, something you bringing up?

[Malcolm]

No, absolutely not.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, we all leave something off the table because one is from the past, and it's not coming back. And we don't even with that type of. No more.

[Damaris]

It's coming back. That's why you brought it up.

[Malcolm]

How?

[Damaris]

That's why he bought it up. It's coming back. He know that that's something she probably would have had to encounter in their relationship. That's why he.

[Rory Farrell]

How do you encounter addiction to prostitutes?

[Malcolm]

You bump into her at Starbucks. One of the girls you pay for.

[Damaris]

No, he was dating a girl and I think he wanted. Wanted to test her waters. Like, test her temp to see if she was okay with him purchasing. Because if she would have continued to date him, he probably would have continued to still purchase.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, no, that's different. I'm saying if being a monogamous relationship and like, with her, but in his past, he's purchased.

[Malcolm]

Like, why would you even bring that up? Yeah, like, that's not a conversation piece. Like, she asked you, yo, so what's for dinner tonight? But yeah, you know, I used to pay for. Right, right.

[Damaris]

But if you haven't. I mean, sometimes you having, like, drunk strip Uno nights with your. The person you're.

[Malcolm]

Excuse me, you're having what?

[Damaris]

Drunk strip Uno nights with the person you're dating.

[Rory Farrell]

First of all, one on one Uno is funny as is. I'm just taking my clothes off. We can at this point, like, Maris.

[Malcolm]

Stop bringing your personal to work.

[Rory Farrell]

One on one Uno is crazy with.

[Malcolm]

Bringing your personal to work. Garus, nobody plays drunk strip Uno.

[Rory Farrell]

You just. That's her lucky day.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, like, what. What is that? Stop bringing your personal new life to work. Please leave it off camera and off my same way.

[Rory Farrell]

This gentleman shouldn't have brought up that.

[Malcolm]

He purchased play drunk strip Uno. Like, what are you talking. That's not even a real game. Yo, if you. You playing drunk strip uno, the matter. Slow down. Nobody's playing drunk strip Uno.

[Rory Farrell]

No, now I have question. What are the rules? Okay, first, like, it's draw two. Two items of clothes.

[Damaris]

That's not even a real.

[Rory Farrell]

Once you a draw 4. How many. How much clothes you even got on in the.

[Malcolm]

What's the reverse? I got to put on your panties by the first. My drawers. Like, yeah, reverses. I put on your thong. Like, what are we talking about? What is a reverse? Like, teach us. Teach us your moves.

[Rory Farrell]

A red flag if reversing. She's like, nah, but you got to.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, you got to put my thong on. You got me. This game is over.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm pulling the.

[Damaris]

I never want nobody's on my thong.

[Malcolm]

That pissed me off, man. Ass on your thong was great.

[Damaris]

That pissed me off.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, but back drunk.

[Damaris]

Okay, so that's not a real thing. I was just putting. Stringing words together. I was podcasting, like, what the bad. I'm sorry. I'm good at my job.

[Malcolm]

I thought you had a fl.

[Damaris]

My point was sometimes you get drunk with your partner in the house, and y' all are just bonding and having conversations, and I feel like that's when situations like that might get brought Up. I don't think he just pulled it out, like, over the scrambled eggs in the brunch in the lucky day album playing at dinner. Like, I don't think that that happened.

[Malcolm]

I done drink some of the best champagne in the world, and I ain't never drank enough to where I was. Like, I'm gonna tell her tonight. I pay for pussy.

[Rory Farrell]

And, like, go through the timeline that don't come up. My guess is she found something in, like, saw in his phone or some. Or, like, maybe there was a bunch of unsaved numbers that you could clearly see. This was a transaction. Because there's no way a man is just even in the midst of drunk. Uno. We've all been there.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Strip. Uno.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Was just like, hey, just let you know, like, through my 20s, I purchased, like, 15 to 20 prostitutes. That's, like, really what I was doing.

[Damaris]

Y' all never played let's get deep or, like, one of those, like, car.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. Played them all.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I'll play this.

[Rory Farrell]

They're sing. They're. There's every card in that deck. There's certain things that's never coming out of my mouth.

[Damaris]

Really.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't care if it's a specific card of run through everything you've ever done. I'm still holding something down, and I want her to do the same. I don't need to know everything about everybody. Play partner. I don't. She.

[Malcolm]

You think we play those games and really, like, tell, like, the real. The marriage thing we get. We draw the card and be like, tell your darkest secret.

[Rory Farrell]

Doing, like, the beginning talking phases where you're still trying to give the better replacement. Represent your partner for real. They already know everything about you. You're not gonna play that game with somebody.

[Damaris]

I've played that game with somebody I was with for four years and learned more about them, and they learned more about me. It wasn't like, how many prostitutes we said, what?

[Rory Farrell]

How many prostitutes?

[Damaris]

He. I don't think he's ever bought prostitutes. I don't think we got that. We didn't. We didn't draw that card.

[Malcolm]

A girl bought that game to. To. We went out to dinner one night, and she bought a car game.

[Damaris]

That's cool, though.

[Malcolm]

I thought that was stupid. I don't think I ever spoke that after that. Why the. Are you bringing cars if we in the crib? If it's like, we chilling at the crib tonight, the game is on. We ordering some takeout. Whatever. We in a real restaurant.

[Damaris]

The restaurant is crazy. I went to. I Me and somebody I was dating at the time, we got drunk at dinner, and then we went to. I got drunk and wanted to go in Target. And he just was like, okay, buy whatever you want at Target.

[Rory Farrell]

The most richest woman on earth.

[Damaris]

I was just buying shit drunk in Target. And I bought that game at Target.

[Malcolm]

Damaris bought a beast chip.

[Rory Farrell]

And no, that was no.

[Damaris]

You know what's crazy? I tried to buy an Ottoman drunk. I tried to buy ottoman. He said, damaris, we're going to an Ottoman. He said, we're going bar after this. Where are you putting the ottoman?

[Malcolm]

You go sit on it at the bar.

[Damaris]

I was up.

[Rory Farrell]

Ottomans usually match the. What you have. So you just bought, like, a stray.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, it was a oneo.

[Rory Farrell]

That's like buying one Air Force One.

[Damaris]

Stupid. So. But we went. We ended up going to the Moxy Hotel Rooftop, and we were just chilling, having drinks.

[Malcolm]

You could have bought the ottoman there and.

[Damaris]

No, they would have. I bought that game and we. I had bought it in my Target bag, and we were playing it at the spot, like, so I feel like dinner is extra, but at the bar, like, at the lounge. I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. And we had bought the sexual one. So it was.

[Rory Farrell]

Go home.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you was at.

[Rory Farrell]

You was at the Moxie stripping.

[Damaris]

No, you don't. It's not. It's not a game where you do action. It's a game where you ask questions.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Damaris]

It's like a get to know you type thing.

[Rory Farrell]

So, yeah, imagine somebody's trying to enjoy their afterwork drink at the Moxie bar, and Tamar's telling him their sexual fantasies, like, can y' all go back to your room, please?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I just thought.

[Damaris]

You're boring.

[Malcolm]

And the thing about that, the. The car game on a date is like, that's almost like having somebody in your earpiece and have somebody feeding you the questions almost to ask.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not mad at it. I mean, a first date, I think that would be odd.

[Damaris]

First, but date, that's crazy.

[Malcolm]

First date, that's a red flag. Like, I'm leaving.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. First day. I would be creeped out.

[Malcolm]

That's.

[Rory Farrell]

That's the woman that comes in not dating for you. Dating for marriage.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, she don't care who it is, but I'm getting married.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that.

[Rory Farrell]

I feel like that girl does that on the first date.

[Malcolm]

Absolutely.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, get to know me before. You want to know how many kids I'd like to have. Clearly, you're just here because you want that Eggs crack. Yeah, but I mean, I don't know. I'm with the. The card game shit.

[Malcolm]

No, not me.

[Damaris]

So what's your. Like what. What do you do on dates? Like, what's your fucking date?

[Malcolm]

Swag, eat, drink.

[Damaris]

You talk for a living.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I talk on dates, too, okay? Have conversation, you know, have fun. Find to get into things like that.

[Damaris]

Okay, so if a girl told you.

[Malcolm]

Not. Nothing scripted.

[Damaris]

If a girl told you that she wanted to have a. Like, I want a fun date. I don't want to do dinner and drinks. Like, I want to have fun. Where would you take her if she.

[Malcolm]

Wants to have a fun date?

[Rory Farrell]

Strip club? Prostitutes.

[Malcolm]

I would probably take her to the projects.

[Rory Farrell]

Facts. Never know what's gonna happen happen there.

[Malcolm]

Take the elevator to the roof and. And tell her to get out. And I'm gonna. We're gonna race down. I'm gonna take the elevator to the lobby. She take the staircase and run down to the lobby and see who makes it for ma.

[Damaris]

I was being serious.

[Malcolm]

Me too.

[Rory Farrell]

You learn a lot about a girl with that.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. You ever ran down. You ever ran down a project staircase?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Malcolm]

You raced the elevator.

[Damaris]

No, I didn't. I didn't race the elevator.

[Malcolm]

Ah. Do you? Go, go.

[Damaris]

Rory.

[Rory Farrell]

All right, I went up for the second date. Take her back to that same project. We both get in the elevator, and I scream, corners. And I just see what she does.

[Malcolm]

He w. Don't pay him no mind to Mary.

[Damaris]

I don't pay neither one of y mind. Like, what?

[Rory Farrell]

You don't think jumping somebody together would be a romantic second date? Like, me and her just beat up another couple?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, because you learned if she could fight, if she could hold her own, like, you got to see her. Her fight movement, her fight game, what her fight game looked like. I could see that being fun, and.

[Rory Farrell]

Maybe it's a little too forward. All right, date three. I think we could. We could fight another couple. Date three.

[Malcolm]

Start a fight.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, like that. Start a fight on day three, but.

[Rory Farrell]

Then it can get awkward.

[Malcolm]

That could lead to us going home and having sex. Yeah, like, if you could fight, Right?

[Rory Farrell]

It's a risk, though. Like, what if you win?

[Damaris]

By a girl. I could fight.

[Malcolm]

What?

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, I'm 35 now.

[Damaris]

Watch his baddies.

[Malcolm]

I'm watching baddies every week. I can't wait.

[Rory Farrell]

Watching it.

[Malcolm]

Oh, next Sunday.

[Rory Farrell]

The road goes crazy when he watches baddies.

[Malcolm]

Baby D, you got us. I'mma call you Sunday.

[Damaris]

Don't call me.

[Malcolm]

I'm calling you Sunday to make sure you Watching baddies. I'm calling you Sunday, baby D. No.

[Rory Farrell]

We should all get on Zoom and watch it together.

[Damaris]

Last of us comes on Sunday. Sunday.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but I'm right. After that, it Paul lays in the baddies.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm also willing to record it, and then we could watch it together on a Monday morning.

[Malcolm]

Baddies.

[Rory Farrell]

Starting your Monday.

[Malcolm]

Nah, you can't start Mondays with baddies. Baddies is the end.

[Rory Farrell]

You want to end your week with.

[Malcolm]

It, you gotta end the week with baddies. Perfect. Perfect. Sunday night, go to bed and just play. You know, maybe life isn't that bad. Like, that's what baddies makes you feel like after you watch it.

[Damaris]

Like, if he lose, I can't him.

[Malcolm]

But see, that's.

[Rory Farrell]

But that's the risk. I like, see, I like that there's a risk.

[Damaris]

If he lose, I can't do that.

[Rory Farrell]

That there's a risk to it.

[Malcolm]

But lose how, though?

[Damaris]

Like, if you get put to sleep, hit back pockets. I can't. If you hit ground, I can't. If you hit ground, I can't. And if your face is up, I can't.

[Rory Farrell]

There's only two scenarios that would work. You both win or you both lose. Because you both lose. Yeah, it's embarrassing, but it's a. A bonding experience. We're going through some tumultuous together, but at least we did it together.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, cuz, like, if y' all both lose, y' all could go back to the. Like, yo, they packed us out.

[Rory Farrell]

That could be a fun bonding experience.

[Malcolm]

You can give back to kill. Like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. They packed us out.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, you could respect it. We fought a good fight, but maybe sipping paint is more our thing. Maybe couples fight club is not for us, but we understand who we are.

[Malcolm]

If they knock both of us out and we get back to the crib and we lumped, that's kind of fire. Like, yo, they could fight. We should. We should. Where you think they from now? They definitely from Brooklyn.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, and it's cute. Like, remember in loving basketball when there was, like, icing each other's knees and, like, that would be fun in bed.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Pass me the wood, Chase.

[Rory Farrell]

But if one of you. Y' all lose and one of y' all win.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. That's a long ride home.

[Rory Farrell]

I don't even. Did we get a ride home?

[Malcolm]

We got how. How we got here? We got to get home.

[Damaris]

I feel like it's okay if she lose. Not me. Y' all speak for me. It's okay if she lose, but like.

[Malcolm]

If the man lose, it's n. But lose how? Like how did she lose? Like if she pulled your braids out like, like, like what you expect me to do in the house? Like I supposed to sit here, act like I don't see that patch? Like, like what we doing here? It's like, yo, like, you called your girl yet? The shop open at what time? Cuz you. She need to go. She need to fix that. Like, like lose how? Like if a girl just catch you and it's like, okay, she caught you, but she can't wrench you though.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, if she wrench you to the point that we. We're sitting in the back of the Uber and your titties is out. Cuz she ripped your whole shirt off.

[Malcolm]

Your titties is out in the back.

[Rory Farrell]

Of the Uber and you just sitting in the Uber like this and I.

[Malcolm]

Got to stop and get you a NYPD T shirt from the. From the tourist shop. And now they think I'm on a date with the feds.

[Rory Farrell]

This undercover cop. I. I do not have a driver's license. Get this cop out of my car. Yeah, you got to lose country today.

[Malcolm]

You can lose, baby D. But you can't get wrench, though. You can lose crazy. You can lose, but don't if shorty straight like wrench you and dragging you and they world stars. Nah, we can't do that. I gotta let her go. You gotta get your fight game up. I gotta.

[Damaris]

That's. That's crazy.

[Malcolm]

That's a fact though. Oh my God, that.

[Rory Farrell]

But then I feel like the woman should judge you based off the couple that you pick. Like if you, if you pick some squeak. Like, I feel like your girl's going.

[Damaris]

To look at you like, all right, yeah, I'm. That's lame.

[Rory Farrell]

That's.

[Malcolm]

And you got to let your girl start the fight.

[Rory Farrell]

You know what? It should be like a, A, A threesome to some degree. Let the girl pick.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, pick.

[Rory Farrell]

Let her lead. Cuz it could get weird if you pick and then jealous. Let. Let this be her thing.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. And she just so happens to go pick a fight with the guy with the cauliflower ears. She don't know what that is.

[Rory Farrell]

Babe, babe, I have to, I have to explain boxing and UFC to you. This is a disease that forms from somebody that has been in countless fights in their life. They're shaking like Ali. Like, nah, I'm not even see that.

[Malcolm]

She don't even see his ears. Like you across the diner like, yo, wait, I think that's Jon Jones.

[Rory Farrell]

And she don't understand sports brand. He at the club with a sleeveless Everlast shirt on. Like. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not him, not him, not him.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, you can't start fight with somebody wearing an Under Armour T shirt. Nah, any. Any outside on a date with a Under Armour, drop it on. Nah, we can't fight him. You can't fight somebody wearing the Under Armour. Drive it to the movies. Can't do it.

[Rory Farrell]

He got on, you know, the Under Armour polo.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, the coaching.

[Rory Farrell]

That's the OG that could fight.

[Malcolm]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

One day I'm going tell y' all how a man tried to wear a Nike polo on a date with me.

[Malcolm]

Who you was dating Rory M. McElroy.

[Rory Farrell]

Who she went on cuz contractually he has to wear that on every day.

[Malcolm]

What was that? Phil Mickelson? Like a Nike traffic polo? Yo, she.

[Rory Farrell]

She was the first 20 year old to go after Bellich.

[Malcolm]

That was his casual. That was the Marisol dress. Casual. He put on a.

[Rory Farrell]

No, that wasn't his casual. That was his dress up. You gotta understand.

[Damaris]

Yeah, man.

[Rory Farrell]

That was his. We going somewhere nice?

[Damaris]

We were going to dinner, bro.

[Malcolm]

Oh my God. Crazy.

[Rory Farrell]

And I'm not materialistic or judging that way, but no, I fully understand a woman going like, I think I'm cool if homie shows up.

[Damaris]

In that.

[Malcolm]

Only person wearing a Nike polo shirt is a. That just came over doing 16 years and.

[Rory Farrell]

And that was. That was the only shirt at his mom's house.

[Malcolm]

He went in. Yo, that was dead when he went in. He came home and still in the closet. Oh my God, Josh. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Went off the rails a little bit. Oh, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

And degree listen, and that doesn't happen often.

[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Damaris]

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[Malcolm]

Ah, but do you know what our.

[Rory Farrell]

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[Malcolm]

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[Rory Farrell]

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[Damaris]

A cabana? That's a no.

[Malcolm]

But a banana?

[Rory Farrell]

That's a yes. A nice tan?

[Malcolm]

Sorry, nope.

[Rory Farrell]

But a box fan? Happily, yes. A day of sunshine?

[Malcolm]

No.

[Rory Farrell]

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