Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 6/23

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 6/23

Release Date: June 29, 2025
Hosts: Rory Farrell, Malcolm, and Parks
Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal

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1. Cardi B’s Upcoming Album Release

Announcement and Anticipation
Rory Farrell [02:52] kicks off the conversation with exciting news: Cardi B is set to release her new album, "Am I the Drama?" on September 19th. Parks confirms the date, while Malcolm emphasizes the long-awaited follow-up to her breakout success.

Rory Farrell [02:52]: "The great Cardi B is dropping her album September 19th. She made the announcement."

Marketing Strategy and Single Releases
The hosts delve into Cardi B's recent single releases, particularly "Bongos", questioning its impact and timing. There's speculation that the label may have rushed the rollout, possibly due to leaks or internal pressures.

Parks [04:19]: "Well, also on Friday she put out, which I assume would be the first single outside without a video, which made me feel like it was rushed..."

Concerns Over Album Performance
Malcolm expresses apprehension about whether the sophomore album can match the monumental success of "Invasion of Privacy." He notes the unique position Cardi holds in female rap and worries about labeling pressures and changing market dynamics.

Malcolm [09:14]: "There’s nothing worse... Because they have to rush the artist if the artist doesn't feel."

Track Listing and Collaborations
Discussion around the album's tracklist reveals that songs like "Up and Wap" are featured as the last two tracks. Malcolm and Rory are skeptical about their potential impact, fearing they might not contribute positively to the album's momentum.

Malcolm [13:42]: "To be fair, they are the last two tracks on the pre-order track list. So I don't know if you know as far as the listen of the album, if it matters, but I don't. I don't like that though."

Impact on Female Rap Dominance
Rory and Malcolm discuss the shifting landscape of female rap, noting that Cardi B's initial success was part of a larger wave that may no longer be as prevalent. They express hope that Cardi's creativity won't be stifled by current industry metrics.

Rory Farrell [09:07]: "What I don’t want for her is for her to not reach what she did previously because that’s just very unlikely for anybody to reach what she did previously..."

2. Jay Z’s Public Activities and Music Plans

Recent Public Appearances
The hosts transition to discussing Jay Z's recent appearance in Paris alongside Beyoncé. They debate whether Jay is hinting at new music or simply enjoying family time.

Malcolm [51:16]: "I think Jay is, to me, the greatest of all time... But as far as new music and recording and I don’t think Jay is doing any of that."

Speculations on New Music
There's a consensus that Jay Z is unlikely to release new music imminently. Malcolm underscores Jay's potential disengagement from the current rap scene, focusing instead on his business ventures.

Malcolm [52:08]: "I think he's too entrenched in other things outside of music."

3. Viral Moments and Public Perception

Jim Jones and Nas Discussion
A significant portion of the episode revolves around Jim Jones' comments comparing his Billboard entries to Nas. The hosts analyze the implications of Jim’s statements and how virality affects the legacies of established artists like Nas.

Malcolm [21:03]: "But at the same time, Jim is going viral for talking about Nas, who hasn’t said anything. That’s the crazy part about all of this."

Impact on Nas’s Legacy
Parks and Malcolm debate whether Nas cares about viral moments, contrasting his status as a legendary rapper with Jim's current focus on virality.

Malcolm [22:08]: "Nas is not trying to be viral much. If that..."

4. Financial Struggles and Friendship Dynamics

Shakina and B. Simone’s Viral Clip
The conversation shifts to a viral clip featuring Shakina discussing financial struggles despite having wealthy friends like B. Simone. The hosts explore themes of pride, the reluctance to seek help, and how financial transparency impacts friendships.

Malcolm [64:25]: "Yeah, but like Rory said, she didn’t land it, didn’t word it properly. But I understood what she was saying."

Personal Anecdotes on Seeking Help
Malcolm shares a personal story about his reluctance to ask friends for financial assistance after a friend declined his request. This leads to a broader discussion on the stigma associated with financial vulnerability.

Malcolm [65:36]: "So some people be struggling, fucked up, and you don't have no idea. Some people's front game is immaculate."

5. Humorous Banter on Aging and Relationships

Hypothetical Scenarios
In a light-hearted segment, the hosts engage in humorous hypotheticals about finding a second spouse in old age. They joke about the challenges and absurdities of such scenarios, blending humor with underlying social commentary.

Malcolm [40:38]: "I wouldn’t want somebody that’s got this stuff together that’s not just in it..."

Stereotypes and Appearance
The discussion includes playful takes on stereotypes related to aging, attractiveness, and the complexities of relationships involving older individuals.

Parks [35:05]: "She didn’t land her point is pretty."

6. Recurring Advertising Breaks

Throughout the episode, the hosts navigate through numerous advertising segments promoting products like Meta AI, Degree Cool Rush deodorant, Mint Mobile, Amazon Business, and Greenlight. These ads are seamlessly integrated but do not contribute to the main content discussions.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Cardi B’s Album Announcement
  Rory Farrell [02:52]: "The great Cardi B is dropping her album September 19th. She made the announcement."

• Concerns Over Album Rollout
  Malcolm [04:52]: "I think Cardi may have been ready. I think that they probably, you know, whatever."

• On Female Rap Dominance
  Rory Farrell [09:22]: "That's a completely different trajectory."

• Jim Jones on Nas
  Malcolm [21:13]: "What Jim is saying. Jim is wrong."

• Personal Finance Struggles
  Malcolm [65:36]: "But again, people had his pride and this ego."

• Humorous Aging Commentary
  Malcolm [40:38]: "Somebody that's got this stuff together that's not just in it."

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Conclusion

The episode of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of critical discussion on Cardi B's highly anticipated album release, insightful commentary on the dynamics of virality in the music industry, and relatable conversations on financial struggles and personal relationships. The hosts navigate these topics with a mix of humor, personal anecdotes, and thoughtful analysis, making the episode both engaging and informative for listeners.

Transcript

[Rory Farrell]

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[Parks]

The volume.

[Rory Farrell]

I just got. Me and P just got word. The great Cardi B is dropping her album September 19th. She made the announcement.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

Dropped the COVID and everything. We outside.

[Parks]

Can we pull up the COVID Yeah, yeah, no, no.

[Rory Farrell]

It's just called Am I the Drama? Cardi B. We outside. Just letting y' all know.

[Parks]

Okay. So also on Friday.

[Malcolm]

So we got a date.

[Rory Farrell]

September 19th.

[Malcolm]

September 19th. Cardi B, the album, long anticipated, long awaited follow up to the hip hop.

[Parks]

AI better not have done that cover. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Malcolm]

No, they really had a crow land on her.

[Parks]

You did without.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, yeah. No, definitely.

[Rory Farrell]

So you were saying she looks amazing.

[Malcolm]

She looks good. Yeah. All right. Cardi B. Am out of drama. September 19th. All right. All right, Baby D. What's up?

[Parks]

That's an interesting title.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, let's.

[Parks]

I like the title.

[Malcolm]

Y' all know how long I've been waiting for this. I needed follow up.

[Rory Farrell]

You've been waiting just to talk shit. But we ain't gonna get into that.

[Malcolm]

Waiting to talk shit. I want to. I want to hear what Cardi's doing. Absolutely. I want to hear full. Full album from Cardi. I'm not want to. I'm not waiting to talk. I'm going to talk my now. But I'm not waiting to talk like. But I do want to hear what Cardi does with her. With her sophomore project coming off of the success of the first one. I say it all the time. Like I don't know many artists, especially rap, that have had the success off of one album that Cardi has. So we definitely needed a follow up. So now. Okay. Cardi B, Am I the drama? September 19th.

[Parks]

Well, also on Friday she put out, which I assume would be the first single outside without a video, which made me feel like it was rushed because I think Cardi's rollouts are best when they're paired with a visual record.

[Rory Farrell]

Probably because it got leaked originally.

[Parks]

I mean, she had said that this wasn't planned and this and that, but I mean, we never know with that what artists are saying. We already know that there's some rumor of issues with Atlantic already. Like was this something you think they are forcing on her right now?

[Malcolm]

I think so.

[Parks]

Like, do we think Cardi feels like she's ready?

[Malcolm]

I think Cardi may have been ready. I think that they probably, you know, whatever. Because a lot of. A lot of people we know, Roy, because we just have These relationships. But I feel like a lot of people that were in that building when Cardi first arrived that are no longer there now, are no longer there because they couldn't get this album out. So I feel like this album may have been done. A lot of the songs may have been done. They may have been fishing for a single scene which what took off with what picked up steam. You know how they play that game, like, let's throw a couple records out and see what happens. Do some features, things like that. I think they was, you know, trying to figure it out with Carti. But I think most of this music has probably been. Because Cardi alluded to the music being done for a while a couple times.

[Rory Farrell]

I think they were banking on bongos being bigger than it was, I think.

[Parks]

I think so.

[Rory Farrell]

Budget?

[Parks]

Yeah, for sure.

[Malcolm]

I mean, anything Cardi does is gonna be a huge. Yeah.

[Parks]

Why do you think bongos didn't work?

[Rory Farrell]

I don't know why? Because I loved bongos.

[Parks]

I thought it was a cool record.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah. I don't know if it was because it was released at the wrong time. It gave summer record. If I'm not mistaken. Bongos was released maybe a little bit later in the year. I can't remember the date of when it was. I remember it being probably around. I was at the TZO show probably around September of 2023 or something around that time.

[Malcolm]

So.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I think it would have been better as a summer record. September.

[Malcolm]

September is the summer. It's the end of the summer.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes. I think if they would have put it out in May, June, I think it would have been a little bit different. But I don't know why I didn't. I don't know why I didn't want to.

[Malcolm]

Do y' all really. Do y' all really believe that, though?

[Parks]

Believe what?

[Malcolm]

That if a record is, quote unquote, a summer record and it doesn't drop like the beginning of the summer, like, so if it doesn't take off, you can kind of lean on that like it was a summer record. They put it out the end of the. I think that good music is. I don't give a what it's doing outside. Well, I mean, anything gonna party and shake their ass. We don't see shake ass365. If a record is big and it's dope, it don't matter what it's doing outside. Like it's. It's gonna be a hit.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, sometimes. But some records you need to hear in certain settings. That was a Caribbean based beat like, we needed to hear. We needed to see women outside in the summer shaking ass to that. And I feel like.

[Parks]

But even Wap, though, being in the middle of COVID still worked like.

[Rory Farrell]

But WAP worked for multiple reasons. Wap is. Was. Is huge. Outside of it being a good song, it has huge shock value, and the video was huge shock value. Like, it was just a lot.

[Parks]

I mean, that's part the reason why I think bongos. I'm sure by data, like, if Cardi pulled up bongos, I'm sure, yes, it worked, but we're talking about, like, the momentum of going into an album. I love Megan's part on bongos, but I think they were setting themselves up for fit. Like, how do you top Wap? Yeah, like, even though Megan did great on that, I think Cardi should have picked somebody else for it. Because now it's like, all right, we're. We have our expectations at this with. Are we getting WAP part two? Like, obstacle isn't Wapden. You're just setting unrealistic expectations when you have a single like that with the two of them together, I. I can.

[Rory Farrell]

Understand that it is very hard to top.

[Parks]

They smoked that video record School. Like, they did everything right, I feel like. But it just didn't connect.

[Malcolm]

I'm scared for Cardi.

[Parks]

I'm nervous, too, just because I personally feel I don't have any information. I feel like she's being rushed right now.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I'm kind of. I'm nervous for Cardi for a number of reasons.

[Parks]

Outside was I. They just threw it out. Like.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, Like, I. I don't just. It's just we. It just feels weird because, again, obviously that the entire label, as far as the. The people that have been there, that probably worked on her first project are no longer there.

[Parks]

Definitely all gone.

[Malcolm]

I just.

[Parks]

That might be the difference between Kaiser and Julie versus the Grange family. Because they were like, all right, when Cardi's ready, we'll put. Put this out. Grangers came in and said, yo, you put it out. Whatever's on your hard drive, get me 14, and we're good to go.

[Malcolm]

And that's where I'm nervous because, you know, you can't rush the artist if the artist doesn't feel. And there's nothing worse. And you can. You can attest this where you've put. Actually put music out in the marketplace. When you rush an artist and it doesn't work, that is the worst feeling for an artist because they're like, I. I didn't even want to put this.

[Parks]

Didn't want to do this. Let me fail on my own.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Like, I didn't even want to do this. So for that to happen, you know, for them to put Cardi's project out. But. But on the flip side, maybe she is ready. Maybe she's been ready and, yeah, she.

[Rory Farrell]

Finally getting her chances.

[Malcolm]

She's taking it and, you know, and now it's here. So now she's probably like, all right, cool. Like, let's. Let's get this shit out.

[Rory Farrell]

The only thing I'm nervous for when it comes to Cardi is female rap is not doing what female rap was doing when Cardi first dropped her album. No one is right. That wave has kind of. I don't want to say it's over, but the way things are marketing wise and the success that their singles are having and their albums are having like off first week, it's a completely different trajectory.

[Parks]

The dominance is gone.

[Rory Farrell]

Yes, it's. It's completely. The dominance is gone. Um, and what I don't want for her is for her to not reach what she did previously because that's just very unlikely for anybody to reach what she did previously as far as the success of that first album, because that was an anomaly. It's not like, oh, I can do this and let me get better. Like, it was like, no, you hit one hell of a lick. You had the perfect album at the perfect time and the perfect climate for female rappers. Like, it was literally the perfect storm for that album to do what it did. And there's a good chance that no matter how good this one is, it won't hit that. And I don't want the criticism that she's going to get from people who don't know anything about the music industry or the way that music is selling right now to get to her and it stifled her creativity or make her not even want to be an artist anymore. Because we do know how sensitive Cardi is. So that's what I'm scared for. Do I think the album will do well? Yes. Do I think it'll do well first week? Not if they don't fix this rollout. But I do think that Cardi is known for making good music. And I think over time the sales will grow the same way that Dochis did and that Lotto's did or whatever. But I just don't want her to pay attention to metrics that don't really matter, that the stands and the fans are pushing on her. And for her to feel like she.

[Malcolm]

Failed personally but no, but this is. And this goes back to. You know, a lot of people try to paint it like I was hating on Cardi. I love Cardi from the same town. I support her no matter what. But when you have the success that she had on her first one out the gate, it's hard to match that. You can grow towards that. But the success she had off the first album, like, what is. What is. What else is there to accomplished after that? You know? You get what I'm saying? It's like she got everything off the first album. The looks that she got, the. The awards that she got, the accolades. Everything is. She already has it. So now if this second album come out and she doesn't get those things, is that a failure? That's what I'm. I always. But that's why I always land on the side of just let the music be dope. Fuck the accolades, fuck the metrics. Let the music be dope. Gotta develop more as an artist. Like the Dochi. I didn't even know that was. Y' all know I'm terrible with titles. That anxiety record, I didn't even know that was Doechi. I had no clue that that was a Dochi song. I hear that when I go in any department store, that shit is playing and I'm like, wait, that's Dochi. I'm thinking just rap. When it come to Dochi, like, getting her bars off. So to hear that, this is where. Why you say female rap is not. Because now you have to do more than just rap as a female. Give us some melodies, give us some more pop. You know what I mean? Like, lean a little more pop. So now I don't know who she worked with on this project. I'm sure they had the best of the best in the room with her, though. So we just gotta wait to see what the. I don't. I'm not paying attention to the sales if she gets nominated, if I don't. Cause she has all of that in her belt already. You know what I'm saying?

[Rory Farrell]

I just don't want her to.

[Malcolm]

I want the music, though. I want the music to be great. As long as the music is great. Great job, Cardi.

[Parks]

All right, so we just pulled up the pre save link on Apple Music, and it appears that Track 22 and Track 23 are up and wap. Now that scare scares me a bit. Bodak Yellow was. Was how old by the time Invasion of Privacy came out, it was a couple years. But at that time, the streaming rules were different. And that was helpful. It went towards your total. They have now changed that rule. So had that rule still been here, I would totally get why Wap would be on this album. But the fact that that has shifted scares me. Because what benefit is up and Wap being on this album really going to do in the scope of things now.

[Malcolm]

To be fair, they are the last two tracks on the pre order track list. So I don't know if you know as far as the listen of the album, if it matters, but I don't. I don't like that though. I don't like up and Watt being on this album.

[Parks]

Can you think of a time when there was a regime change at a label and an A lister put out a project immediately following it? I cannot think of a time typically when they do their musical chairs and people become different presidents or whatever. Typically, if that president signed you, you're getting dropped because the new regime, it's like, yo, I didn't sign you. You're not my act.

[Malcolm]

I'm starting to take that on.

[Parks]

But Cardi, of course, is A list. So A listers are going to stay there. Like, it's not like they're going to drop Justin Bieber when L. A re left. Like, of course they're going to stay. But I've never heard of them putting music out right after there's a new president and a new system. This, I don't know. This is all odd. I hope it's great. But outside, I don't know if that's. That's the one. Maybe it'll grow, maybe with a visual. It's a cool record and I don't know if just a cool record is it right now. And which is fucked up to say because it's, you know, hard it is to make a hit fucking record. It's like one of the hardest things in the world. So to just say put one out, Carti is crazy to say, but. But I don't know if Outside is the one that like is going to lead the momentum that is. That is needed when you don't even know your new label president and you're just announcing shit.

[Malcolm]

But that's why I like what you just said about hit records. And that's why we have to start giving more, let's say, applause to the artists that consistently do that. It's not easy to make a hit record. No, consistently make hit records is not.

[Rory Farrell]

The hardest fucking thing, no matter how talented you are.

[Malcolm]

So we got into a space where it became everything else other than the music, you know, What? I mean, like, let's have a public relationship. Let's, you know, go viral on doing this and do these dances. And then it's everything dressed up around the record. The hit records.

[Parks]

Records can't stand by themselves.

[Malcolm]

The records can't stand by themselves. So now with this situation with Cardi, again, a list has all the accolades already off. The first album achieved things that most people in her genre will never achieve.

[Parks]

Every song was on Billboard.

[Malcolm]

Like, she has all of that.

[Parks]

She had, like, 10 hits on that, which is insane.

[Malcolm]

So. So now sophomore album, first album since all of these accolades. Had a lot of features in between it, good records in between it. But this is the first Cardi B album post the success of Invasion of Privacy. Now we got to get back to where are the hit records on this album? Looking at up and Watt being there. I don't like that. But, hey, it might. It's 23 tracks, so those might not even matter.

[Rory Farrell]

But, ma, that's the oxymoron for like, that's.

[Malcolm]

That's.

[Rory Farrell]

You just. What you just said was, let's pay attention to music and not really pay attention to hits. But then you saying, all right, well, where are the hits? Because the two songs that Cardi dropped in between that we thought when the album we thought was coming last year, those were really, really good songs. Like, objectively, those are really good songs, and they both came with a big visual.

[Malcolm]

Which songs are you talking about?

[Rory Farrell]

One of them was the freestyle, and the other one was the one that she kept teasing. I can't remember exact names of. Josh.

[Parks]

Freestyle was dope. That was one that Offset directed, right? I think he directed the video. Yeah, that was hard. But it was also a freestyle. I don't even think Cardi in the label was like, this is a hit. I think it was. Let's feed our fan base in the meantime. Yeah, I don't know if that was.

[Rory Farrell]

But they were.

[Parks]

I mean, the bongos, they were like this. We're gonna treat this like a hit. I think the freestyle joint that Cardi did was just to feed the fans at the time.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Which was hard. But, like, they didn't do much post promo after that.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay. So, yeah, one was called Enough Miami. And like, Enough. I like enough. I liked enough or not a lot. And I think it was a good record. But like I said, it's really tough with female rappers right now, and I think that they're trying to. When she's dropping these songs, they're trying to judge their immediate success off her past Immediate successes. You got to push a record. You got to let a record grow just because she's a superstar. Treat this like this is just her sophomore album. Like. Treat her like this is her sophomore album.

[Malcolm]

You.

[Rory Farrell]

They're like, trying to treat her like she's.

[Malcolm]

No, but. No, no, no. You can't do that, baby D. Because you can't just treat it like it's.

[Rory Farrell]

Just her sophomore album when it comes to pushing it. Yes, you can. When it comes to how you push it and how you grow it, why can't you?

[Malcolm]

Because the success she had on the 1st, she is priority. She's an a lister for sure. So that you can't treat it just like a regular sophomore.

[Rory Farrell]

What I'm saying is, if something is not working to what you think is working, immediately give it time, put more money behind it and watch it grow. Don't just throw things out and be like, oh, this didn't go number one. Onto the next. What are we doing? You can't do that. Because what we're seeing with the female rappers now is you have to give songs time to grow. You have to push them. You have to put money, more money behind them and give it time. You can't just say, throw this out and then hit number one next. And it hit number one next. You can't do that. It's not going to work. That formula is gone. When it comes to female rap dominance. We're out of that time.

[Malcolm]

But why do you. I don't even like saying female rap, Dom. I think rap, period.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. But I'm just talking about the years when the female. When the females were running rap, when you had the. The Cardi, the Megan, the Lotto, like, they were taking over everything. That was all you heard. All the number one songs were female songs. Like, so that's over with. That wave has, like, passed. So now it's like, you got to treat it like regular rap, where you gonna have to put some money behind it and some time behind it and some appearances behind it and grow organically. Not just. It didn't hit number one like everything else did the first time, but they gave.

[Malcolm]

They gave Cardi time to let. They put joints out. She had time for something to take. And that's what I think they were doing. I think they were throwing joints out trying to see what took off. Because I do feel like most of this music that we're gonna hear, Cardi, had been recorded as music. So I think they were just trying to see again because of the success of the first one, the labels had to wait until she put something out where it looked like it even had that type of heat.

[Rory Farrell]

And that's what I'm saying. That's not. I don't think that that's going to happen in this client. So they need to come up with another way.

[Malcolm]

But again, if the music is good, it don't even matter if it's not. If it's the numbers. If the numbers aren't as. I mean, it matters to the label. Some. Some we gonna keep it. It matters to the label if the numbers are not where they want them to be. But as far as me just listening to Cardi's album, I just want to hear good music. I don't. Don't even tell me what it did first week. Don't care. I want to hear good music. I'm just looking for good music coming from Cardi B. That's it.

[Parks]

Can. Can we stay uptown for a quick second?

[Malcolm]

Let's always stay uptown, but you want to chop cheese was good.

[Parks]

I do want to thank our brother in arms, Jim Jones, for making Nas relevant again.

[Malcolm]

Thank you.

[Parks]

Thank you to Jimmy. You know, Nas, a legend, and I appreciate that. That our guy Jimmy has made him relevant once again.

[Malcolm]

See you being funny, and I respect that. I respect you being funny. I respect you finding he's being funny. I respect you finding.

[Parks]

And you know, that's my guy.

[Malcolm]

No, listen, I respect you finding humor in this. Now, we spoke about this update, I thought.

[Parks]

And then he doubled down and went and did another interview.

[Malcolm]

I thought Jim was trolling, and to some extent, I feel like he may still be trolling.

[Parks]

He said on last Sunday on Instagram that he was trolling.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. But now this, this, this. This latest clip that came out, he sat down with Bag fuel. Yeah, I believe he sat down with.

[Parks]

Bag Flu was on there as well.

[Malcolm]

He sat down with them. And his quote was, what I did for Nas recently probably has never been done in his life. Last time he was in some viral shit like this was when he was getting that Jay Z. Now, he may have a point with the viral thing, right? He may have a cause. Nas is not somebody that goes viral much. If that.

[Parks]

If that there wasn't viral. Didn't exist when he was going, this is what I'm.

[Malcolm]

This is what I'm getting at. But at the. On the flip side of this, I don't think Nas cares about going. He owns ring cameras.

[Rory Farrell]

Like, really?

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

I didn't know that.

[Malcolm]

He's one of the first investors in ring Camera.

[Parks]

Like, I don't think NASA, Anthony, I.

[Malcolm]

Don'T think Nas cares about going viral. And that's the thing.

[Parks]

Like, you don't think Nas does not care about going viral.

[Malcolm]

And that's the thing. Like, not Jim. I understand what Jim is saying. So he may have a point. More people. No, no, he may. He may have a point in the whole Nas being viral thing.

[Parks]

What's the definition of viral?

[Malcolm]

But at the same time, Jim, you're going viral off of talking about Nas. The things that you're saying about Nas is why you're going viral, because people can't believe that you're actually saying these things about Nas. It's like, Jim, what you've done. And we talk about it all the time. What Jim has done to me, he has surpassed what anybody ever thought he was doing music. He has dope albums, dope songs. And if you've been around long enough to see Diplomats from the start to where it is now, you are looking at Jim like, damn, he really turned his music career into something really lucrative. Like, Jim wasn't even rapping at first. So for him to be doing what he's doing now, and then when you look at his catalog and the songs, it's like, oh, shit, he got some joints. Salute to that. But this is Nas we talking about. Like, this is one of the goats, one of the. And Jim has been on record praising Nas and saluting Nas. Like any. If you're from New York City and you grew up in New York City in hip hop, there's no way you didn't look to Nas at one point and be like, yo, that's that, dude. All of us have looked up to Nas, saluted Nas at one point or another. So now with this. This thing of going viral, yes, more people are talking about it, but they're talking about it in a way of. They can't believe that you actually said that you have more Billboard entries than Nas, which we know that's not true. We debunked that in about 17 seconds. But everybody had to check first because it was kind of like for somebody to even say that, it's like, word. Like, hold up. He might.

[Parks]

Because then you start thinking like, damn.

[Malcolm]

I don't know, Maybe I missed maybe. I don't know. I don't pay attention to Billboard like that. Jim being an artist, he would pay attention to his Billboard. We don't really look at that. So it's like, word, you got more. It's like, nah, we checked it. We were right, of course. He doesn't. Cool. But now the whole going viral thing, but at the same time, Jim is going viral for talking about Nas, who hasn't said anything. That's the crazy part about all of this. Like, Nas still hasn't responded to any of this and he probably won't, but that's how Nas.

[Parks]

What is viral?

[Malcolm]

Well, viral is just where, you know, you, you sit down on these platforms and you say something and they clip it and it goes everywhere. Blogs pick it up and, you know, that's the viral thing. Everybody picks up a sound bite of you saying some crazy shit.

[Parks]

Okay, Nas, when he named his album Hip Hop is Dead when I was in high school, was that not a version of viral? That was the biggest conversation ever.

[Malcolm]

Absolutely.

[Parks]

When Nas wore a shirt to the Grammys that had the hard er on it, was that not viral?

[Rory Farrell]

Very viral.

[Parks]

When Nas put Khalees's wedding dress on the album cover, y was that not viral?

[Rory Farrell]

Talk your Nas fan.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but. No, but, but Jim is talking about recently. Recent virality.

[Parks]

Nas is almost 50.

[Rory Farrell]

He shouldn't be going viral.

[Malcolm]

So is Jim.

[Parks]

And listen, different paths, and I'm not judging either of those paths. What works for people, works for people. Like we said, we love what Jim has been doing lately. But like, why all of a sudden now that's a stat? Because someone that doesn't want to go viral, you got them viral.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, like, it's not a stat now just 51. NAS is 51. How old is Jim?

[Rory Farrell]

Edible age. Jim. Jim Jones.

[Parks]

That's what you'd pick for your second husband?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, Jim will be 49 in July.

[Rory Farrell]

Jim don't go viral for his music.

[Malcolm]

Well, that's what people are saying. They're saying like, you're going viral because you're talking about one of the biggest rappers ever. You're going viral. You're a musician that's going viral for nothing that has to do with music. So that's what people are pointing to. So, you know, it's just they playing two different games. Like Jim is playing a game or cares about a game that Nas doesn't even care about. Like, that's the difference here.

[Parks]

Do you remember when Nas hopped on, let Nas down remix? Yeah, that's not viral.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I mean, no, people were talking about, but I'm just saying he's talking about as recently. Listen, let me be clear. What Jim is saying. Jim is wrong. Like, Jim is wrong in what he's saying. Like, I'm not trying to, you know, say Jim is right, but I again, I thought Jim was trolling, but this last clip.

[Parks]

What's the definition? Irrelevant. Because now it depends on who you ask with Mass Appeal. Seven albums that are coming out this year that he's.

[Malcolm]

That's why I said two different games they're playing. Two different. Two different focuses, two different goals.

[Parks]

He put out the Supreme Doc.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Put out movies.

[Malcolm]

It's two different goals, man. That's all it is. But I thought Jim was, like, really trolling when all of this started, when he said he has more Billboard entries than Nas. But now with this latest clip, like, his energy seems like. No, he's serious, though. Like, it seems like he's. I'm making Nas. I'm making Nas relevant. It's never been. What I'm doing for him has never been. And I'm just looking at him say that, and I'm like, yo, but Nas is not trying to be, like, in this viral thing. Like, he's not even playing that game. Like, Nas don't care about that shit. But, I mean, listen, man.

[Parks]

And if he's going off those conversations of talking on a podcast about Nas in a viral sense. Okay, yes, Jim, you are correct. But a few years ago, two years ago, Irv Gotti went on Drink Champs and told the story of. After Nas signed, he wanted to go to Baltimore with a bunch of Maybachs and stunt in the hood. And Nas was like, I think I'm cool, bro. Yeah, that went way more viral than this did.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And again, I like that Jim doubled down on it. Go ahead, keep talking.

[Malcolm]

I mean, listen, again, he. He's going viral. He's right.

[Parks]

Go for it, man.

[Malcolm]

You know what I'm saying? But it's just like it's going viral because people are kind of confused at the things that he's saying about Nas. It's kind of like, yo, but this is Nas you talking about. Like, he's not trying to be viral or trying to be relevant. Like, whatever we think is relevant. Like, Nas is. He's doing a whole bunch of other shit. And, you know, he's well off. He's great. Nas is in a very great space in his life.

[Parks]

And that's why I feel like with Chrisean Rock, when she was saying she made Blueface relevant again, I'm like, we talking about Blueface. Like, he's the Nas of his generation. You can't even, like, say that type of.

[Rory Farrell]

She's not wrong.

[Parks]

He's in jail.

[Rory Farrell]

I think she was talking about, can.

[Parks]

We have some grace for people?

[Rory Farrell]

I think she was talking If I'm not mistaken, I think she was talking about when they were dating. I don't think she was talking about currently. Was she talking about currently?

[Parks]

I don't know, and I actually don't really care. We don't. I was joking. We don't have to deep dive.

[Rory Farrell]

We don't have to deep dive into it, but I don't know.

[Parks]

I'm sure they helped each other with the viral when they. Oh, they did a show where their families are beating each other up, like, for viral moments. Yeah, they probably both helped each other.

[Malcolm]

She said, I'm the reason Blue's where he's at now. He's in jail.

[Parks]

Like, so you snitched.

[Malcolm]

So what is she saying right now?

[Parks]

So you were at.

[Malcolm]

I'm the reason Blue's where he's at now. Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

He was a flop. Y' all need to stop playing with me. Yeah, he was who he was, who he was. But everybody had the same opportunity I had when I came around him, and they ain't did nothing. I put him back on the map. What did anybody else do? I don't want to get into that because that's a. A ghetto part of the world that I'm not really a part of. But from what I. I saw, the only thing I saw, Blueface was bust down Tatiana.

[Parks]

Great record.

[Rory Farrell]

With Cardi's remix. That was my.

[Parks]

I'm just saying we'll move on to, like, music that we care about. But I will end this with. If you have my face tattooed on your whole neck, you can't call me a flop. Your neck floppy now. Floppy ass neck.

[Malcolm]

Clock it, clock it, clock it, baby.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not arguing with you, New word mouth.

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[Malcolm]

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[Malcolm]

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[Parks]

Would you? A old broad just. Just to get her inheritance like just one time you got to spend.

[Malcolm]

What's the inheritance? What are we talking castles in the uk? Let's say at beach home in the Hamptons.

[Parks]

Minimum liquid you're getting five mil.

[Malcolm]

Okay.

[Parks]

And you have to spend her dying days with her. Which that's a crapshoot. I don't want to put a number on it because that's really the risk here.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Like this could hang on for one month.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Or she could hang on for three years.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You only have to beat once.

[Malcolm]

Okay.

[Rory Farrell]

The silence is she.

[Malcolm]

Because I gotta. It's a negotiation.

[Parks]

My answer is yes by the way.

[Malcolm]

But like how does she look though? Is it like, oh, she looks like.

[Parks]

A old ass wrinkly woman that's dying.

[Malcolm]

I don't know if I can hit that. Like, I wouldn't get aroused. It'll be hard.

[Parks]

I didn't add.

[Rory Farrell]

Maybe if I start thinking about 5 million, I get really aroused. That's what you should try.

[Parks]

Josh is racist, by the way.

[Malcolm]

In a, in a, in a, in a, in a. A woman from Bali popped up. Josh is racist a Balinese woman in nature. And she's in nature like, she's in there.

[Parks]

That's. That's why Russell Simmons is there. He's stuck in Bali.

[Malcolm]

He's still stuck. Flight leave every hour, but he's still stuck.

[Rory Farrell]

She kind of all right.

[Malcolm]

I feel like she's not kind of all right, baby.

[Rory Farrell]

I feel like.

[Parks]

Give me a row and a honey pack, easy.

[Malcolm]

I just don't know, man.

[Parks]

Not only that, like, Rory gonna break her head. Yeah, Like, I. I'll knock it out the park.

[Malcolm]

Now you wild. See, I can nah back shots. You know, that's crazy. That thing smell like.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, okay. All old people do not stink.

[Malcolm]

Yo, they got a little tang to them.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Malcolm]

Old people got a little tank. They sit down. Okay? When they sit down on that couch. You don't been in the house when they say when, when, when big mom and them sit down on the couch and they.

[Parks]

And, and they all. Every old person smells the same dying skin cells.

[Malcolm]

That little tang, that little, little like, oh, where it's like it's not fresh. Like the big mama need to take another shower. Like it's not. You know how I go. It's not. It's not her fault. She's 83 years old.

[Parks]

Oh, my God.

[Malcolm]

We talking like that there some 83 year olds that's like, really in great shape and like great health, though.

[Parks]

Okay, I'm not talking about them, though.

[Malcolm]

I know, I know which ones you talking about. You talking about the ones that.

[Parks]

I'm not talking about this racist that Josh pulled up. But I'm saying, yeah, picture in your own brain, everyone. Picture in your own brain. But we know. Old woman. Why do you keep bringing up.

[Malcolm]

Why are they all Asian?

[Parks]

Please, I just type old wrinkly woman.

[Malcolm]

That's all. I type. Yeah, no, I can't do it. All right, you gotta have some pride, man.

[Parks]

All right, how does that, like, ruin your pride?

[Malcolm]

Come on. You ain't supposed to be doing nothing with this old lady. She.

[Parks]

It's consensual.

[Malcolm]

She wants, of course.

[Parks]

And she's gonna give you her Husband's inheritance because of it.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

They don't have kids.

[Malcolm]

I don't. I couldn't do it, man. I couldn't do it. I would not get aroused. I'm telling you right now, I couldn't do it. The thought of it is just like making me want to like throw up in my mouth. I can't do it.

[Rory Farrell]

Oh, damn, you ain't poor enough.

[Parks]

I would knock the dust off that.

[Malcolm]

Nah, I'm cool raw.

[Parks]

And I pay for her wax and go in the room.

[Rory Farrell]

They gonna wax her. The skin is going to come off.

[Parks]

You wanna see white meat?

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah.

[Malcolm]

Like, please. You can't wax that old lady, man. You can't do that.

[Rory Farrell]

You better send her home early. You send her up yonder.

[Parks]

Have you guys ever given thought, second wife or second husband? This is the scenario. Your wife or husband, second husband. That passes away before you and you have a bunch of money. Have you thought about, like, what you want that person to be?

[Malcolm]

Say that again.

[Parks]

Let's say you've been married forever. Your wife dies, you only have so much time left. She even gave you the blessing. Like, don't be alone, go out. What do you think your second wife would be?

[Malcolm]

I would, I. I'm an older man. I don't even think I would get married again at that point. If I'm like 70, why would I even get married again?

[Rory Farrell]

Who gonna take care of you?

[Malcolm]

Pooh. What?

[Rory Farrell]

Who gonna take care of you?

[Malcolm]

I don't know. Hopefully I can stay take at 70. Hopefully I can still take care of myself.

[Rory Farrell]

Hopefully.

[Parks]

But eventually I would think like the salsa instructor at the old folks home, like that woman, she could just blow me and get all the rest of my money when I die.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay.

[Parks]

Blow me to the grave.

[Rory Farrell]

Salsa instructor. That is very specific.

[Malcolm]

How old is.

[Parks]

I'm just trying to think of the activities they do at.

[Malcolm]

How old is Robert Kraft? He got to be 70 something, right?

[Parks]

Yo, why Robert Kraft is sick is he's a billionaire and went to a rubber.

[Malcolm]

He's 84. 70. I'm still in the game. Robert Craft, 84, he's still getting pussy.

[Rory Farrell]

And you age way better than him.

[Malcolm]

That's a fact. Yeah, 84.

[Parks]

Is he still getting. Because he went to Absolutely. A rubbing tug in.

[Malcolm]

Yes.

[Parks]

Fort Myers, wherever the it was. That was like a ten dollar type joint.

[Malcolm]

He was just like, you need to.

[Parks]

Have a hooker come to your house, sir.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, he just wanted a little quick, you know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

It's the experience, the ambiance, his net.

[Malcolm]

Worth 11 billion I can promise you he's getting.

[Parks]

Okay, so if you still in the game with who you going after?

[Malcolm]

I don't know if I'll get married though, at that age. All right, cool.

[Parks]

Second girlfriend.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I would probably get, you know, whoever was like Ms. Turks and Keiko's. She's probably like 50 something years old now. I probably left her something like that. Okay, so somebody still look good, but like younger than me, but like, still, like, you know, not. No, I wouldn't go after no 20 something. That's just ridiculous. But like 50, 55 still look good, still, you know, works out, still does Pilates, but just an older woman.

[Rory Farrell]

So, like out there like Jada Pinkett Smith like that?

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Okay, I got 11 billion.

[Parks]

I'll just take.

[Rory Farrell]

No, not. I'm talking about a woman like her. A woman like her.

[Parks]

Yeah, got you. A woman like Jada somebody woman.

[Malcolm]

He's in 60s that still, like, you know, gets up, be juice every morning, Pilates, you know, yoga.

[Parks]

Okay. In my 70s. I'm with you there. Once I hit 80, though. Anna Nicole Smith, me.

[Malcolm]

Nah, but you don't need to, though.

[Parks]

Can we pull up that photo of Anna Cole Smith and her husband?

[Malcolm]

But that was crazy.

[Parks]

That was the sickest photo. I think in.

[Rory Farrell]

I think she loved him.

[Malcolm]

I think so too. Baby D. I think couldn't even speak. You know what else? I think she loved that. That inheritance that she. That she thought was. She's kissing a corpse because she never got that money.

[Parks]

She's kissing Jimmy Carter.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, she thought. She thought that money was coming.

[Rory Farrell]

Hey.

[Malcolm]

What?

[Parks]

I didn't wheel Jimmy Carter out to the White House lawn last month. Don't look at me. Yeah, this is all right.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that's crazy, yo.

[Parks]

Having that many chairs for no one to show.

[Malcolm]

Look at the. But look at the Halloween photo right there on. I guess somebody played Animal Cole underneath. On the. On the left. Right there, right there.

[Parks]

That's sick. That's a great Halloween costume.

[Rory Farrell]

That is a dope Halloween costume.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that was bad.

[Parks]

But yeah, once I hit 80, I. I need that. But 70, yeah, I. I'll find someone that's 50, 60 for sure.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, in my 80s, I'll still get somebody in the 50s, 60s, still in shape, take care of herself. Yeah, they. They listen. Sometimes I run across, like, the older women on IG that still work out, and when they say how old they are, I'm like, what, maybe 65 years old? Look great in shape. Like, you would never be able. It's like, wow, like she looks amazing. So it's women out there that take care of themselves and as the older they get, they still look great. Like, you just gotta. Gotta find them.

[Parks]

Okay, before we get to topics of the day, I want to reverse this. I know your answer. So we're gonna do a hypothetical. Now you are dying and you have to give your wife the blessing of who she can be with after you die. I know you would say never, that I'll haunt you for the rest of your life. Hypothetical. You are giving her the blessing. What type of guy do you want your wife to be with at 70?

[Malcolm]

She's 70.

[Parks]

She's 70. You died. You have to give the blessing. Don't be alone, babe. Just do what you gotta do.

[Malcolm]

I mean, as long as it's another black guy, I wouldn't want her to like, remarry a white guy or be with.

[Parks]

Remarry a white guy or be with a white guy. Yeah, and I hear that.

[Malcolm]

I wouldn't want that.

[Parks]

I get it.

[Malcolm]

Somebody that's, you know, got this stuff together that's not just in it, you.

[Parks]

Know, just for, you know, I would take care of her though, right?

[Malcolm]

Yeah. No, I don't want, I don't. I wouldn't want my wife to get.

[Rory Farrell]

With a white favor.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, you can't. I can't die and then now you marry a white guy. Like, no, you can't do that.

[Parks]

Okay, yeah, keep it June. It's some bitches come July though, right? Because it's America.

[Malcolm]

No, no, no, no, no, we don't keep it black all the way through to your dying day. You did another black guy though, so.

[Parks]

Just any, any black guy, well, he.

[Malcolm]

Got to see, got his things, you know, his shit together. He's doing well for himself. He doesn't have to be like super wealthy and I like that. But if he, if he's going to.

[Parks]

Be spending your money, I just want to make.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But somebody, somebody that still has, you know, something going on for themselves, not just no, you know, 50 year old man or, you know, somebody that's just not doing nothing and they, hey, this old lady I met, she got a bunch of money coming away. Yeah, I just got to hit it. Like, don't do that to you. Don't play yourself like that.

[Rory Farrell]

You gonna haunt him.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. If she end up with somebody like that. Yeah, I'm haunting the out of him for sure. Mirrors breaking every night.

[Parks]

He's a good guy.

[Malcolm]

Nah, he ain't no good guy. 50 and he ain't got going on. What if he could be a good guy?

[Parks]

What if he looks black, but his grandfather on his mother's side is white?

[Malcolm]

Josh.

[Rory Farrell]

Sorry.

[Parks]

Is that true?

[Malcolm]

No, Josh don't look black.

[Parks]

He was just Puerto Rican.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but you don't look black. Yeah.

[Parks]

No, I voted for Obama, too.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, twice.

[Parks]

Two times.

[Malcolm]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Rory Farrell]

Pull that out, bro. Okay, but speaking of moving on to. To the Whites Mall.

[Malcolm]

Mall.

[Rory Farrell]

The profit.

[Malcolm]

Nah, don't even. Cause, see, y' all be trying to. When I say things in the moment, y' all be laughing at me like, nah, you. You always take it, too. I tried to tell y' all, nothing hurts a woman more than if her man moves on and gets with a white woman.

[Parks]

So that's the responsibility.

[Malcolm]

The only thing that hurts more than that. The only thing that hurts more than that is if he moves on and he's with a man. That's the only thing that will hurt a woman more. But right underneath that, that next level of pain is white woman. Yeah, your man leave you.

[Parks]

Well, so getting a white woman are pretty much the same, is what you're saying?

[Malcolm]

No, if you. If you're in a relationship with a guy and he leaves, like, y' all break up, y' all split end. You were married because they were married, right? Yes, married. So now you're divorced, and now he gets with. Oh, white woman. Oh. As a Caribbean woman, that will absolutely crush you. And that's what I was trying to say. I was like, yo, go get. And then I just know Sabrina Carpenter. I'm like, listen, I know what the type niggas, like. I know what niggas be looking at sometimes when they see them girls at these shows, like new artists. She lit, cute, nice little shape. I know what niggas be looking at. So that's why I said. I said, you be looking, too. Yeah, I'm a man. So I know. It's like, oh, she's the lit. She's the new lit girl. You know what I'm saying? It's like, all right, he gonna Offset. Gonna go get with Sabrina. Now, I'm not saying he gonna get with her for real, but he revealed that that's his crush. He has a crush on her. Yeah, I know. I know you do. I bet you do. Cause you looking at the same shit I'm looking at. Young, attractive, lit, talented, got money, got a bunch of fame. All right, I like her. Cool. Now, what? Sabrina hears that. Does she want to entertain it? I don't think So I think she'll stay away from it.

[Parks]

She.

[Malcolm]

I don't think she. She don't look like the type that entertained just because of what comes with it. Because then now you get the energy from Cardi's fan base, things like that. I think she's going to stay away from that. But yeah, that's. This is exactly what, you know, somebody like Offset should move on and date. Go ahead, go get Sabrina. Why not? Have fun.

[Parks]

If I said I had a crush, everyone just said the rented out the.

[Malcolm]

Castle, put her through the mattress, all that cool. If Offset get with Sabrina Carpenter, if he pop out at the next Yankee game with Sabrina Carpenter, Cardi gonna be.

[Parks]

Sick and then takes it to a bashment after.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, Cardi gonna be sick. I don't care what Stefan over there doing. Cardi gonna be over there sick.

[Rory Farrell]

I feel like, you know, once she.

[Malcolm]

Gonna be slamming plates in the dishwasher.

[Rory Farrell]

You in love with the new?

[Malcolm]

Nah. Cause you still want to. You don't want. You don't want your ex husband to. To get with another Lit. A lit. You don't want that. You don't wish that for him. You don't pray for that for him. When y' all say y' all wish you the best. No, you don't. A woman ain't never wished her ex husband the best.

[Rory Farrell]

I feel like when you're really over them, you. You wish them the best.

[Malcolm]

Listen, let me explain something to you. I hear you. If Offset pops out with Sabrina Carpenter, you gonna see exactly how much Cardi is bothered by that. I'm telling you, that's a fact.

[Rory Farrell]

I. I just also don't.

[Malcolm]

If it was another. If it was another Caribbean woman, I don't think Cardi would care as much. I don't think she'd be bothered by that. A white woman, she's gonna be bothered by that.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay?

[Malcolm]

I promise you she'll be bothered. You gonna see all the. I don't want my kids around her. You gonna. All of this is gonna come out. All of this is coming out.

[Parks]

Beat me to my point.

[Malcolm]

I'm telling you right now, if he get with Sabrina Carpenter, all of this is coming. Cardi is coming out with all of this.

[Rory Farrell]

What else have you been right about?

[Malcolm]

A lot. Go, go down the list, baby. D, you don't want to give me my flowers about a lot of shit.

[Rory Farrell]

But you be right sometimes. I like you be right.

[Malcolm]

I be right a lot. I mean, sometimes I'm wrong. It's okay. Well, nobody's perfect but God. But Yeah, I'd be right about a lot.

[Parks]

I'm. I'm here to hate.

[Rory Farrell]

What.

[Parks]

What is more right about a lot? No, no, no, hear me out. You have been right about a lot of stuff. I'm saying, in this instance, is it news that Offset finds a white woman attractive?

[Malcolm]

No, no, but I named the white woman.

[Parks]

You said Sabrina.

[Malcolm]

Yes.

[Parks]

Okay, but I'm so sorry.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, I said Sabrina Culpant.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, my bad.

[Malcolm]

Come on, man.

[Parks]

No, no, no.

[Malcolm]

This is no Live Fridays. We here now.

[Parks]

Yeah, this is fate. I apologize. You know, she's Amish. She's from Quakertown.

[Malcolm]

Is she?

[Parks]

Yo, when you see Offset churning butter in Pennsylvania. Yeah, you're right. Cardia is going to lose her mom.

[Malcolm]

That's where Sabrina's from. Pennsylvania.

[Parks]

Quakertown. That's where the Amish at, right?

[Malcolm]

I always thought that's just what oatmeal grew. I don't know.

[Parks]

Well, there's an Amish person on the front, right?

[Malcolm]

Quaker. Quakertown, Pennsylvania.

[Parks]

Yeah, man.

[Rory Farrell]

1999. Jesus Christ.

[Parks]

She was born in 1999. Offset can't do that. How old is Officer's? Like, my age, right?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, he can't do that. What you mean?

[Parks]

See, again. Once again, I'm wrong. I cannot believe people born in 1999 are 26 years old.

[Rory Farrell]

No, time is flying, baby.

[Parks]

If you were born in 1999, you're 26 right now.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, Stefan was born in 1993.

[Parks]

Well, not. All right, that's a little bit of a difference.

[Malcolm]

Six years. Come on, man.

[Rory Farrell]

I love a ym.

[Malcolm]

Come on, man. Yeah, go ahead. Offset, man. Listen, man. Hey, all set. I'm here to let you know, bro. Don't do what you got to do to be happy, man.

[Rory Farrell]

Did you like his new song?

[Malcolm]

The song with Jid? Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I. I like it.

[Parks]

I think it's really good.

[Malcolm]

I like it. Offset, to me, has always been talented. Like, I always, like, you know, I'm saying Offset, I always felt like if the Migos did separate, he would be. You know, he'd be. He'll be okay because he was. He's talented. So, yeah, I like to join with him. And J. I like that.

[Parks]

I think it's good, too. Do we think Island Records would ever even allow Sabrina to be with Offset?

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[Parks]

See, now I see why you didn't go to Paris because Cardi was out there.

[Malcolm]

I didn't go to Paris because Cardi was there.

[Parks]

That's why you didn't hop on the jet with Jay. He Was like, I heard Cardi out there.

[Rory Farrell]

So, yo, who all gonna be there?

[Parks]

He was nervous.

[Malcolm]

I'm not even paying y' all no mind. I'm not paying y' all no more.

[Parks]

Well, I mean, I know we talked about hov a lot already, but that clip of him coming out at the Beyonce show was great. Yeah, I enjoyed.

[Malcolm]

So it was good to see the Carters together on stage in Paris. While in Paris. I see what you did there, Jay.

[Parks]

Do we think Jay is such a genius?

[Rory Farrell]

Do we think Jay is about to potentially be in the studio or release something?

[Malcolm]

No, he don't got. His chain ain't big enough. That was just wifey. That was a wifey. Let me get. Let me get my shit off in Paris with wifey real quick. He was at Fanatics the day before. Flew out that probably that night, went to Paris.

[Rory Farrell]

That's what I'm saying. Like, that's. It ain't just. Let me just hop off stage with wifey like that. There was a lot of thought and thought.

[Malcolm]

I don't think Jay wants to be affiliated with none of this rap shit that's going on right now. I don't think he wants his music in the market space next to any of this shit. I truly don't believe that he's recording anything. I don't think he's recording any music at all.

[Parks]

I think he always records, but it's about just catching. Like, he puts together albums pretty quickly. I feel like he records all the time, and if he catches a wave for two weeks, it's like, all right, maybe I am ready to go now.

[Malcolm]

I don't. I don't think so. I don't think so, because I.

[Parks]

You know, he could have also just been like, he had an obligation with fanatics and then just went to go meet his family.

[Malcolm]

That's it. That's what it was. I went to go see my wife.

[Parks]

And I had to do this, and then I went back to the door.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but as far as him recording music and. No, because. And I. And. And then to be honest, if we being honest, we always are. Jay is. Jay is, to me, the greatest of all time. When you talk about rap, the things that he's accomplished strictly off of rapping. He doesn't sing, he doesn't dance, he doesn't tune. Like he. This is rap. And the. The heights and the accolades that he's achieved as just a pure rapper, unmatched. I think that he's looking at the landscape of music and rap. I don't think he what? What would a Jay Z album do right now? Like, what would be the point of Jay Z putting out an album right now? Like, we gonna listen to it. The newer generation are gonna kill it online. Get this old nigga outta here. Nobody wanna hear these old raps. Nobody wanna hear you talk about art that we'll never own.

[Rory Farrell]

I mean, they did that with four four, four, though. Who gives a fuck?

[Malcolm]

But this is what I'm saying. And then a week later, people not even talking about or care.

[Parks]

But I think Jay would put an album out if he wanted to. That's what I was getting at. Like. Like, yeah, of course. There's no.

[Malcolm]

It's always if he wants. You don't need to.

[Parks]

Anything out of like 444 off the self reflection therapy relationship.

[Malcolm]

That's what that was about.

[Parks]

That was. You know, of course it was marketed because it's the two biggest artists ever that happened to be married and talked about their relationship after lemonade with that put it out because that was for him too. I just.

[Malcolm]

For him.

[Parks]

Yeah. He would have to find that reason. I don't know what that reason could be because I'm not Jay Z.

[Malcolm]

But rap in the market back then was in a way better place than it is now.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Malcolm]

So what I'm saying is we know he doesn't need to do anything. He doesn't need to put no music out. He doesn't have. He doesn't owe anybody anything. He doesn't have any dates to hit. Like, when it comes to that, everything has to be whether he's motivated, whether he's inspired, whether he's, you know, he's looking at where things are and it's like, okay, cool. I like the energy in rap and hip hop right now. I like, you know, just the tone of it, what's going on. Let me add to that. I don't think he's looking at any of this and is motivated and wants to add what he does to any of this. I think obviously this is in Paris. His song N in Paris. His wife sold out fucking stadium in Paris. It's a moment. This is like just the family having a day in the backyard. Like, he was just hanging out in the backyard with his wife and his kids. Like, that's what that was. But as far as new music and recording and I don't think Jay is doing any of that. I think he's his. He's too entrenched in other. Outside of music.

[Parks]

I mean, if he's motivated and inspired, I hope we get One, But I'm not banking on it.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm not banking, but I'm begging. I'm praying. And I prayed on Halliburton Downfall, and that happened.

[Malcolm]

So you said there's super bowl rumors of Jay performing at Super Bowl.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Parks]

Well, we talked about that when he first took over. How many years? Would it not look weird to pick yourself?

[Malcolm]

Oh, yeah, he's performing.

[Parks]

Oh, and they're trying to get this. It's Vegas. He's trying to get the Caesar's Palace.

[Malcolm]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He's performing.

[Parks]

And Beyonce's popping up.

[Rory Farrell]

Yeah, man, I need tickets.

[Malcolm]

He's performing San Francisco.

[Rory Farrell]

San Francisco this year.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, he's not performing.

[Rory Farrell]

Yo, y' all are so fucking funny.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, San Francisco. Not.

[Parks]

I think the NFL is gonna put pressure to have a non urban act for this year. But if it was Vegas, Yeah. I'd be like, nah, Jay's heavy into the gambling world now. He'd definitely perform Vegas.

[Malcolm]

Oh, yeah, It's Vegas. He's definitely.

[Parks]

But no, I think we're gonna get Morgan.

[Malcolm]

Halftime show.

[Rory Farrell]

Morgan Wallen, Morgan and Drake.

[Malcolm]

No, I think. I think it'll be.

[Parks]

Well, I mean, Jay got there to make sure there was representation at halftime. Now there's another side of the country that may need some representation, and they see themselves in Morgan.

[Malcolm]

Listen, man, we could talk about it.

[Rory Farrell]

Can we?

[Malcolm]

About the Super Bowl? No, I think we may be at that point where Chris could get it brown.

[Parks]

Yeah. He couldn't even get the Michael Jackson tribute.

[Malcolm]

Why wouldn't. Why wouldn't Chris get it?

[Rory Farrell]

We already had this conversation, like, four times.

[Parks]

Hey, listen, I'm with you. Chris deserves it.

[Malcolm]

But we. I think everybody's passed. If.

[Parks]

If Quavo doesn't have anything to do that day.

[Malcolm]

I'm sure Quavo has something.

[Parks]

I met Quavo before you came.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah. But I was like, n. Chill. I'm with Chris. You said that. No, I didn't say.

[Rory Farrell]

I know you didn't. I know you didn't say it.

[Parks]

Shay s just like. I was like, he has no idea. The. Out. What's up, man? Yeah, one of those. All right, the. What we really need to get down to is not the Super Bowl. Can you just take B. Simone to Bloomingdale's?

[Rory Farrell]

You have Bloomingdale's money. I know you do. I've seen your wallet.

[Parks]

Was that the store that you went to go see on Sunday to support a friend?

[Malcolm]

Yeah. When you Opened Bloomingdale.

[Parks]

You gifted B. Simone in Bloomingdale.

[Malcolm]

A little small shopping open called Bloomingdale's. Nothing crazy.

[Parks]

I mean, I don't want to laugh at someone crying about not having money because I know what the fuck that feels like, and it sucks. But I'm still confused by this entire thing that I. I'm not going to go listen to the whole episode. I want to make that very clear. There's no research here except for the clip that everyone just saw. What is going on?

[Malcolm]

Yeah, so I saw the clip of B. Simone and Shakina talking. Now, a clip of. I think Shakina went viral the week before when Shakina was saying, you know, people think when you have rich friends, that that means that you got money and that you. You're well off or whatever, whatever. And people were killing that clip, like, saying, if I had a rich friend and they knew I was struggling and watched me struggle, like, that ain't a friend. And you know, that whole. People think that because your friend got, let's say, 100 million, that means you got 100 million. No, it doesn't go like that. And as a friend, you're not going to keep. You're not going to ask your friend for help if you fucked up. Like, you just don't do that. Now, if your friend got 100 million and they see you struggling, then, yeah, they should absolutely help if that's your friend. That's what friends are for. So I saw that clip go viral.

[Rory Farrell]

Okay, well, how do you. How do you feel about that? Because I think that that was. I thought that that was an interesting clip because when I originally watched the clip, I didn't know the background that the friend she was talking about was sitting next. Like, I didn't know that she was talking about B. Simone. I just seen her saying, you know, I was on food stamps and my car was about to get repossessed or whatever, and, like, I have no help. And people.

[Malcolm]

Or maybe she knows you talking about Baby.

[Rory Farrell]

No, she was, but I didn't know that she was at the time. How do you. How do you feel about that?

[Parks]

Wait, so B. Simone was the rich friend and she was the struggling friend? Yes, I'm just trying to keep up.

[Rory Farrell]

And they were doing an episode together where she was talking about, yeah, people like, you know, I saw you give a check to somebody else, and it's like, damn, like, what about me? And I was sitting there watching this shit, like, oh, this is.

[Malcolm]

Now, listen, I have friends from all walks of life. Rich, poor, it doesn't matter. Right. But there's a thing when. Because as friends, you don't. You don't necessarily want to ask your friends for help. Right. If you in a tough situation, financially, whatever it may be, you need some help, you don't want to ask your friends for help. Now, should your friends know that you're struggling to know that you're kind of like, in need of help? Yeah. You know, that's what friends for. You have those conversations. But I've been in situations where I needed help from friends that were well off. And I asked a friend one time, small loan. I was like, yo, listen, money tied up right now. I got a lot of bills that I just want to catch up on. Loan me 5,000. I'll pay you back next month. All good. He said, no, see, I can't do it right now. Cool. From that day, that put a fire up under me that said, I will never ask another friend or anybody for help ever again in my life. And I never have by the grace of God. Never had to. God bless the child that has his own. So maybe I needed to hear that. No, maybe I needed that moment. Like, damn, maybe help ain't coming. Got to do what you got. We all got 24 hours in a day. It's how you use it, how you grind, how you hustle. Cool. So I can understand the mentality of not wanting to ask a friend for help. Especially as men. You know how we are. Prideful, ego. You don't want another man to know that you struggling. You fucked up. Which is dumb when you think about it. Especially if you're my friend, you should know I'm struggling because then if I go out here and knock some niggas over and put them on their ass and try to get some money. Yo, why you ain't call me? I did, nigga. And you said you ain't have it like it. So I had to go put this four five in the nigga face and get it, like, you know what I'm saying? I had to do what I had to do.

[Parks]

The reason I was out of town the last month.

[Malcolm]

Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, so I can understand how people don't want to ask friends for help because you. You just don't want to, you know, be put in that position, have to ask anybody for anything but.

[Parks]

Or make the friendship awkward.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, because it's not.

[Parks]

So many times it doesn't happen. When you ask a friend for money and they say no, and then now.

[Malcolm]

The Friendship is weird now for me personally, yes, our friendship changed. I got to be honest, our friendship changed after that, but not in a way where I despise the person and we not cool. It changed in a way of never asking for nothing after that. Never asked him for nothing before that, which was crazy. And that's why that shit bothered me, I think, because I never asked nobody for nothing. But in that moment, I was like, this is a small thing to a giant. This ain't. And that. No. I remember hanging up that phone. I said, I will never ask nobody for nothing again.

[Rory Farrell]

That should have hurt your soul.

[Malcolm]

And I never, and to this day never ask. Which is why when Roy be like, yo, even tickets, I don't ask niggas for nothing. Like, I don't. When people call me yo Hit so and so, I'm like, I don't like asking nobody for nothing. I just. Is just something in me. And not as a result of that. Before that, I didn't like asking people for. I just. That's just how I am. I don't ask nobody because I. I'm always on the side of you got. If I'm calling you asking for something, you got 30 ahead of me. Because I'm the last to ask anybody for anything. So that's just my mindset. But as friends, you do need help sometimes. So I understood that clip with Shakina and B talking. People killed him about that clip. Cool. So now B and Shakina again. Another clip goes viral where B is saying, you know, she's so broke now that she has to shop at H and M instead of Bloomingdale's.

[Rory Farrell]

Well, and she's saying she's not broke from lack of money. What she's saying is she has lack of liquid. She has her.

[Malcolm]

Yeah.

[Rory Farrell]

Money tied up in assets and investments.

[Malcolm]

Cool. Which is, you know, we understand that. So now your lifestyle has to change. You can't spend as much as you were at one point because you're not getting as much money in as you were at one point. Your money is tied up. So now you have to kind of budget and, you know, but you should always be doing anyway. But you have to budget and spend your money wisely and be, you know, more financially responsible. So I understand that. My only thing would be saying that is rich people shop at hm. People that are financially great.

[Parks]

She didn't land her point is pretty.

[Malcolm]

Much, yeah, like people that are financially great and well off.

[Parks]

Bad version of struggling.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. So it's like, yo, you can be great financially and Shop at H and M. But I understood what she was saying. Meaning I had to change my lifestyle. I had to change the way I was spending money. I had to budget. I had to, you know, the money that I was spending so freely before, I cannot do that anymore. Which is what she was trying to say. But like Rory said, she didn't land it, didn't word it properly. But I understood what she was saying. Like, yo, I can't spend blindly the way I used to at one point. Like, I have to be more, you know, mindful of the way I'm spending money. So I understood what she was saying, but doesn't matter. On the Internet, you said what you said. They're gonna kill you for exactly what you said, not what you meant. You're gonna kill you for what you said. So I understand would be meant by that. And shout out to her, Shakina on going viral once again, how much money.

[Parks]

Do you think she asked me, Simone.

[Malcolm]

For how much money do I think she asked? Yeah, she didn't ask.

[Rory Farrell]

I was about to say. I don't know if she asked her.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Malcolm]

Yeah. You know, she didn't.

[Rory Farrell]

She was initially saying, I'm of the mind of. I couldn't. I would. Me personally, I don't know their relationship. If my best friend was staring me in my face, sitting up there talking to me about, I watched you give a check to somebody else, but I ain't have no food in my fridge. I ain't have this, I ain't have that. I would feel like a piece of shit.

[Malcolm]

Oh, now, wait, hold on. If I'm starving and can't even feed.

[Rory Farrell]

Myself, she said she had to get on food stamps.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, yeah. Then at that point, if you have a friend that's well off, like, now, again, again. Because I've seen this, too, Baby D, people be struggling, fucked up, and you don't have no idea. Some people's front game is immaculate. I got personal friends that I'm like, yo, bro, I. Why you ain't just say something? We could have went to Whole Foods and filled this whole shit up. Like, you know what I'm saying? But again, people had his pride and this ego. Yeah, they front game be strong. They don't want people to see them struggling. It's a real thing. And I understand it because I've done it. Now, I ain't never opened my fridge and seen baking soda in that motherfucker. Like, nigga going to eat. But I've done that. It's.

[Rory Farrell]

It's like, listen, and you don't want nobody to know.

[Malcolm]

You don't want nobody to know.

[Rory Farrell]

Nobody know.

[Malcolm]

I mean, it's. It's whack, though, because the baking soda is funny.

[Rory Farrell]

I'm so sorry. That's just so accur.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, but it's real. Some people open their fridge, bacon soda, celery. You're not even doing nothing with celery.

[Rory Farrell]

You better dip that in some peanut butter. Y' all ain't see that came with.

[Parks]

The side of wings that you stretched out for two days.

[Malcolm]

Why you got celery in the drawer? You trying to keep the celery fresh, too.

[Parks]

Throw that out on the right climate.

[Malcolm]

Throw that. You're not eating celery.

[Rory Farrell]

I know this pineapple or some. I mean, not some pineapple. Some peanut butter or some ranch to that. It'll get you through a night.

[Malcolm]

And that's all we trying to do is get through the night.

[Rory Farrell]

Get through the fucking night, yo.

[Malcolm]

Get through the night. That's the motto a lot of live by Get. See, I don't want to be around them type no more. That's just trying to make it to tomorrow. They focus and energy is different than that.

[Parks]

It's going to be your B. Simone clip.

[Malcolm]

No, no. I'm just not saying I don't love it, but I can't be. It's just because they willing to do anything for sure. You get what I'm saying? It's like. And you don't want to be around when they get that moment of it. Like, this is the moment. Like, y' all gotta do it now. You don't want to be around when the person that is on a last feels like, yo, it's now or never. Yeah. Cause you might be the Now.

[Parks]

I was gonna say, once you turn them down for money, they also know your patterns because they're. They're your friend.

[Malcolm]

You start looking like a plate. You looking like a plate. You looking good. Skin looking good. Nigga, you gaining weight. I just saw your ig. You was just in Turks. Niggas throwing shrimp at you. All kind of shit going on. I'm in here. Celery. Nah, I'm going to get this nigga.

[Rory Farrell]

You real shit, though.

[Malcolm]

That's how. What you mean? Yes, I'm talking real shit.

[Rory Farrell]

Even if they don't go as far as robbing you. I've seen friends see your. Your friends see your blessings up close. So I've seen shit turn weird. Motherfuckers turn weird motherfuckers. Energy turn weird.

[Malcolm]

Niggas send niggas in a nigga house to rob. They man, I haven't seen it all like, so that's why when anybody get the top, I done seen it. This is like, you gotta understand patterns. Some people be out here really twisted and you out here looking like you just doing good. Listen, it's not the time to be around people that's messed up. If you're not trying to help, if you're not trying to, you know, uplift and help them get out of their situation, sooner or later, listen, they gon. It's survival. You don't wanna be around people that's in survival mode all the time. And unfortunately, that's the environment. That's the neighborhood that a lot of us grew up in. We all grow up trying to survive. Like Baby D said, make it through the night. That's it.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Malcolm]

Have you heard about this? Last year, degree changed the formula for their Cool Rush deodorant. The fans rebel and wanted the old scent back.

[Parks]

And degree listen, and that doesn't happen often.

[Malcolm]

They admitted they effed up out of bringing the original Cool Rush scent back. And it's exactly how you remember it.

[Rory Farrell]

Cool, crisp and fresh.

[Malcolm]

There's a reason why it's the number one man's antiperspirant. And it's back in Walmart, Target and other stores now for under $4. So try it and see what the fuss is about. Head to your local Walmart, Target and try the OG Cool Rush for yourself.

[Parks]

Hey, it's me, Earhart.

[Malcolm]

Mind if I pick the next song?

[Parks]

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[Malcolm]

Higher risk of another.

[Parks]

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[Malcolm]

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[Parks]

Hear ye, hear ye.

[Malcolm]

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[Parks]

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