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Ryan
The volume on Friday. The Carter 6. 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I'm not good with Roman numerals after 5. Like, I'm good with the 1, 2, 3, 4. Sometimes 4 gets tricky.
Maul
I only know 4 because Rocky 4 is one of my favorite movies. That's why I know 5 is just.
Ryan
The V. So, like that. I know. But after that, dude, I, I. Yeah, this could be 11 for all I know.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
Carter 6 dropped on Friday. I know. It's. It sounded like an excuse. In the media room, with the amount of people off mic, they were saying, what you think of? I was like, I really haven't had time to listen.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
And everyone thinks when you say that, you're trying to be polite and saying it's trash. I hadn't. But I did end up listening to the Carter 6. And while I may share some sentiments that the timeline did for the entire weekend, which was just trying to ruin a legend's legacy off a project, it's not as fucking bad as y' all made it seem to be. It is. The production is a little all over the place. And yes, we do know Wayne to experiment, but sometimes experiments go bad, and sometimes you. You should take that experiment and go, well, we tried it. Let's delete it.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
Yes. I had some moments on there for sure, but it was not as fucking bad as we made this out to be on the timeline. Like, I was going into that thinking this was horrendous.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
And the first two records, I was like, this is dope. And then started to take a few turns. But I don't with certain rappers. And maybe it's a little hypocritical because I am very critical of Eminem, and I think his first four, five albums are incredible. But after that, it just is a shit show. Wayne, shouldn't Wayne get a little bit more grace from us if he does drop a dud?
Maul
Like, I don't think.
Ryan
What do we expect outside of Nas and hov, how have we seen hip hop age? Well, as far as discography goes.
Maul
But that's the thing, Rory. When you're like, you said Nas and Hove, you put those names out there in regards to Lil Wayne. So you're putting Lil Wayne in a space where these are the best of the best. So when you're. And responsibility comes with that. When you're deemed one of the best of the best. Some people have him as being the greatest rapper ever. Some people have him being better than Jay Z better than Nas, better than whoever y' all have at the top. Some people have Wayne number one.
Ryan
And while I don't agree with that, I can see someone of a certain age and where they were in their life liking Wayne more than hov. And I think he's done enough to be in the goat conversations. I just don't think he's better than over Nas. But he's there. What?
Damaris
Nothing. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm listening.
Ryan
So, yeah, I think. I think em's last however many albums have kind of fucking sucked. I think you could maybe even make a case that may have more bad albums than good ones. But based on that run that he had, if somebody said Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time or should be in the go conversation, I'd be. I'd say, yes, you have every right to say that. So I think Wayne deserves that same grace, even though this may have not been up to par.
Maul
Well, that's why I'm always on the side of Tom, Will always tell. And I'm with people saying Wayne is their favorite rapper, but when you get into the field of saying Wayne is the greatest rapper, that's why I always give people pushback. Like, he can be your favorite rapper, fine. I'm totally fine with that. But when you start saying he's the greatest rapper, then now we can go to catalog, we can go to, you know, songs, we can go to things that can kind of like make this more realistic and more reality. And when you get to somebody like Wayne. I always felt like Wayne could rap. No argument there. I just never felt like Wayne was as great of an artist or rapper as some have. He's one of my favorites, personal favorites, for sure. When you start talking about the greatest of all time, the goat conversation, well, I mean, that's.
Ryan
That's all objective, but I think it is objective. I feel, even in a non objective way, I think Wayne should be in that conversation, which to me gives him the grace of not doing what the Internet did over the weekend based off.
Maul
Nah, nobody's. Nobody's exempt from. The greats are never exempt from that. Rory, you're never exempt from that.
Ryan
No, I'm saying, hear me out. Hear me out. I feel like Wayne also being from the era where you have to have so much output, whereas Nas and hov, in the beginning and middle of their career, they were in the regular album cycle shit, where it's like, I put album out, I go on tour, I disappear for a year, rinse and repeat. Wayne was at the time where you had to put out three mixtapes while you were rolling out your album. Like, his output was based off the era he was in. And when you have so much output, there's a high chance that. That some of it may suck. So I don't think it's an even comparison. And then I. I remember when I was a teenager, when Nas. When I was a teenager was the time when people started to question Nas a bit. I was. I was young for the golden era of Nas Stillmatic. I was young. I was like, the first Nas project. I, like, remember was there the entire thing. Godson was great. But One Street Disciple, which I think is a good album. Hip hop is dead. Untitled, that run. Even though I like those projects, people from your era were like, nah, that ain't it. But I never saw anyone.
Maul
Wayne.
Ryan
No, I'm saying Nas. I never saw anyone completely shit and discredit Nas's entire legacy the week that Untitled came out. And I just think it's unfair what people are doing. Wayne, if you dislike it, cool. I feel you. I get it. And it's okay to say that art is to be judged, but I saw, like, it was a next level of Wayne teardown. Yeah, but none of. None of Carter 2 doesn't exist.
Maul
Like, I think that that would happen from any of the greats. I think right now, if Nas put out a dud, the timeline will kill him. I think right now, if Jay Z dropped the dud, the timeline would kill him. I think right now, if Drake dropped the dud, the timeline would kill. I think that's reserved for the greats. Like, the greats are not supposed to drop duds. That's just. That's just what comes with being labeled as one of the Goats. You can drop a dud now. You don't gotta drop a classic every time out. We're not saying, give us a classic album every time you release, but I can't sit here and give Wayne any, you know, any rope and any slack. When we watched Nas put out six albums that were incredible.
Ryan
I agree.
Maul
So this is. But this is.
Ryan
But that's why I tried to bring up the time when we didn't know the run that he was gonna go on with King Disease and Magic. Like, before we got to Life Is Good, which I think is a cult classic. Those three albums before that, everyone's like, well, I mean, he's still Nas, but, like, this is just the latter half of his career. We thought at that time, yeah, why can't we just give that Same grace to Wayne. I don't like it either, but that doesn't mean I'm shitting on his entire existence. Like, everything he's ever done.
Maul
You can't shit on. You can't. Anybody trying to shit on Wayne's entire existence and career is just. You're just looking for attention on the timeline and trying to rile people up. But no, Wayne is still one of the goats. He's still one of the greatest. He's still Lil Wayne. Let's keep that very clear. I just think that, you know, the timeline heard the latest project and weren't happy with it. Didn't like it. You know, expected more, expected better from Wayne.
Ryan
Some production was just all over the place. That's mainly what.
Maul
But that. But those are things that, you know, again, when you. Once you create art and put it out, the consumers will, you know, they will judge it. They will give you their opinion on it. A lot of people didn't like the project. I've seen some people that did. But let's not make any mistake about it. It's still Lil Wayne.
Ryan
At least it wasn't AI.
Maul
That's a whole nother conversation.
Damaris
Very true.
Maul
Like, at least Wayne is actually still writing and still rapping. And it's still him. Like, I'm just great.
Ryan
He's picking the experiment.
Maul
Look at where we at. Well, we just grateful for that. We're grateful that the artist actually got in the booth and actually spit some bars into the microphone. Like, we're just grateful for that. But there's a couple jumps on there. I like the Flex Up. I believe it's called Flex up record. It was another one that I liked, but a lot, you know, a lot of it I probably won't go back to. But those. Those two. It Flex up and it was another one that I really like.
Ryan
Bells. Welcome to the Carter. First you joined welcome to the Carter. I think that one.
Maul
I like that band from.
Ryan
No, I. I didn't fully understand because he's already smoked the band from TVB on no Ceilings. Yeah, like, I just don't get it. But, I mean, I thought it was great that Nikki came right away when. When the Hate Train was happening and remixed it within 24 hours. Like, I think their relationship is cool to watch because in hip hop, usually this many years in between two artists and one signed you, that's usually a shit show. Yeah, like, there's beef at that point. Everyone hates each other. People doing Vlad interviews. Like, I love that Nicki still, you know, whatever Wayne needs. She's showing up because she understands what Wayne, you know, did for her, which she talks about constantly.
Maul
Oh, man, we talk about it. We talk about that constantly.
Ryan
I admire Nikki for always making sure everyone knows what Wayne did for everybody. I appreciate Nikki does that type of stuff.
Damaris
I had to stop dating. I went on a date one time and called my old shit crying. I said, I hate it out here. I'm coming back. These niggas tried to make me take a fucking train back home from a date. I hate it here. I can't live like this. Come stop being a hoe and just let me love you.
Maul
Stop being a hoe.
Damaris
It's hilarious playing, yo. I was like, I cannot get back out here. But it. I'm back on here now.
Ryan
What's up?
Maul
See, back outside.
Damaris
Let them find. I'm trying to find. I've been cuffed up too long. Let me remind.
Maul
Yeah, Cardi, that spoke to your soul, huh? It's gonna speak to your soul.
Damaris
Me and Ma gonna go speed dating and find some hoes. Me and you.
Maul
I'm down.
Damaris
You down? For real? Would you go speed dating?
Maul
Yeah.
Damaris
Okay. I'm gonna find the ones with bad bitches.
Maul
I'm not looking for nobody at the speed date.
Ryan
I'm just gonna have speed date that has the bad bitches.
Damaris
Speed dating. Have bad bitches?
Ryan
I don't know. I've never done speed dating.
Damaris
But bad regular women, though, like the. Like the J. Cole fans.
Maul
All right, hold on.
Ryan
Speed dating is like cuck dating to me. How are you just watching the girl you, like, talk to 50 men in one second?
Damaris
It's not 50. It'd be like 12, and it's for, like, 60 seconds.
Ryan
And like, imagine if you. Because the girls move or the guys move.
Damaris
The girls move. No, the guys move, the guys move.
Ryan
Okay, but you're still in the same rotation, right? Like, what if I don't even know more, but he's ahead of me? Like, the whole time I'm trying to date, all I can hear is him making every girl laugh after I didn't make her laugh. You know how weird that must feel? That's why speed dating would be rough.
Maul
Yeah, you can't. You gotta.
Ryan
It's just so much going on.
Maul
Yeah, it's a lot. That's a lot. I mean, I'm down to go just to have fun with you, but that'll be fun.
Ryan
And then the girl that doesn't like the girl doesn't move. She can hear the other guy. Use the same lines. One table over, like, there's no winning in that entire thing.
Maul
Yeah, see, I'm. I'm. But I'm. I would be a bad speed dater. Cause if I'm hitting up with my funnies and she ain't laughing, like, look, she laughed. I think she's the one. Like, yeah, she laughed. She thought I was. She thought I was great.
Damaris
Number three thought I was hilarious.
Maul
She thought I was great. Like, I don't know why you not laughing, but whatever.
Ryan
And so do you exchange numbers? How does it work?
Damaris
I think if you like them at the end, you like, exchange.
Maul
So you get 60 seconds to get your shit off.
Damaris
60 seconds to get your shit off.
Maul
That's how people get mad. I'm coming in hot.
Damaris
Coming. What you saying? Come on, on. Do it right now. 60 seconds. We starting now.
Maul
Favorite position. Have you on the first date before? How long did it last? Did you like it? Spit a swallow.
Ryan
Oh, my.
Maul
Yeah, you gotta. 60 seconds.
Ryan
We're only 10 seconds in. Yeah, I'm looking at the clock.
Maul
You gotta go to it.
Damaris
I'm not comfortable answering any of those questions, sir.
Maul
So why are you here?
Damaris
Cuz it's because I'm trying to get in a relationship. I'm not just trying to fuck.
Maul
Okay, so you're trying to get a relationship. What are you looking for?
Damaris
I'm looking for a guy that's like, nice, sweet, honest.
Maul
At a speed date?
Damaris
Yeah.
Maul
Nobody's honest at a speed date. We got 60 seconds to lie.
Damaris
Nobody's at a speed date.
Maul
I fucked at a speed date. I'm here every month. You gotta get your shit up. You gotta get your shit over.
Ryan
You guys have 10 more seconds.
Maul
You gotta get your shit off.
Damaris
I think you're a serial killer. And I think I'm okay. But I did enjoy this time with. With you. You were funny.
Ryan
So switch.
Maul
All right, bye.
Ryan
All right, here's the thing. Let's say there's 20 girls there. Maul is definitely just by sheer numbers, he's three girls from there. Based off that approach, for sure.
Damaris
God.
Ryan
I didn't say all, but there's definitely three girls that are definitely into that. Exact.
Maul
Knocking three. Three shots down.
Ryan
That you come with that energy.
Maul
I got three for 12. But I'm not leaving here with anything in my book bag.
Ryan
Three is crazy.
Maul
Yeah, three for 12. I went three for 12 tonight. Coach put me in.
Ryan
All right, but did that. That probably left more of an impression. Even if it was a creepy one or hypersexual one to.
Maul
Everybody will be talking about me.
Ryan
Let's let's start the clock now. What's your name?
Damaris
Damaris.
Ryan
Oh, like, what are you into? Like, what type of stuff do you like to do?
Damaris
I like to read. I like to dance, I like to cook. I like to entertain my friends. I'm a family oriented person. How about you?
Ryan
Okay. I like outdoor sports. And you know, like, I'm really into reading as well. Like, what is your last.
Maul
He's gay.
Ryan
Like, what. What is leaving a lasting impression? What my. Or what he did?
Maul
Yeah, because he's.
Ryan
You're gonna wonder about him after speed dating is over. There's a middle ground.
Damaris
There's a middle ground.
Ryan
Like, yeah, that dude, you're look him up online to like, really find that guy to figure out what was wrong.
Maul
You're gonna be mad you didn't take my number.
Damaris
No, I'm coming in hot. What time is it? We starting at 36. Hold on. So why are you here? Because you way too fine to be single.
Ryan
Talking to me or the guy next to me? There's too many people going, sir, can we start on the clock again? I don't know who he's talking to.
Maul
You talking to me or him.
Damaris
I'm talking to you. See, you got. You see how he got nervous?
Ryan
All right, so me. All right.
Damaris
Okay.
Ryan
Three, two, one, go.
Damaris
Okay, so you way too fine to be single. What you doing here?
Ryan
You. You probably said that to the last three guys.
Damaris
Does it matter?
Ryan
Yo, she said the same thing to you.
Damaris
Does it matter if I'm saying it to you right now? What's up?
Ryan
But you said it one minute ago to somebody else.
Damaris
It doesn't matter. Why do you keep worrying about him when I'm right here? How are you?
Ryan
Cause we sitting thigh to thigh.
Damaris
What's your name?
Ryan
My name is Rory.
Damaris
Do you have any kids?
Maul
Yes.
Damaris
Can you show me a picture of her?
Ryan
No.
Damaris
Do you want any more?
Ryan
Not with somebody that says the same thing the last three guys.
Damaris
Why did you come to Speed Day? And if you so worried about what the other men do, and I meet somebody here for him.
Ryan
No, I'm not. We're just having to be sitting next to each other saying the same thing.
Damaris
He's too nervous. He's shaking. I got him shaking. He blushing and shit. Like, come on now.
Ryan
Yes, I would like kids eventually.
Damaris
You would? Okay. So are you interested in, like, casual dating? Are you looking for something serious? Like, what prompted you to.
Ryan
I'm looking for casual into serious.
Damaris
Okay.
Ryan
Rent to buy.
Damaris
917392. Yeah.
Maul
Wait, that. Got the number.
Ryan
Yo, man, see, you didn't think my rent to buy line was that guy.
Maul
He's a serial killer. You can't get. Nah, see. Nah, see, that's why I can't go speed in because I. I'll yell at. But, yo, he got your number. Nah, come on.
Ryan
Yo, what's funny is I. I would. I'd probably call her.
Maul
No, you wouldn't. That's not the girl you want.
Damaris
Why is. Hey, what the. Why is that not the girl you want?
Maul
No, you don't want that girl.
Damaris
Why? What's wrong with me? Maul.
Maul
No, nothing. Not you. Nothing is wrong with you. I'm just saying you don't want the girl that a conversation like that. You don't want her number.
Ryan
Oh, I do because that's hilarious.
Maul
See? He's weird.
Damaris
Why you don't like smooth women more?
Ryan
That was nothing about that was funny. Yeah, it wasn't smooth.
Damaris
That was just because you made it awkward.
Ryan
I know.
Damaris
I was rizzing you up and you kept being weird. I was smooth.
Ryan
Saying you too fine to be here is not rising it up.
Maul
You too fine to be here. I ain't never seen you around here before.
Damaris
Yeah, where you come from?
Ryan
Because I really would have met that if we were being serious. I would have met that with. Well, why are you here? You don't think highly of yourself.
Maul
Nah, that's what you got to say. Because I knew you was here. See, I knew you was here.
Damaris
See, me, I don't even have Riz.
Maul
I don't even. I don't even really do this.
Ryan
I have reality.
Maul
I have reality. I like that.
Ryan
That rich is cute at the party and don't. I can do that for fun. For funsies at the party.
Damaris
I've never seen you give Riz. When you be talking to bitches, you be like you just like you. They love you because you're like, awkward, funny.
Ryan
Peach. You've seen me in action. Remarkable.
Maul
Pizza remark. Ah, remarkable P.E.
Damaris
Don'T piss me off.
Maul
P.E. back, like. He's so good, man. He's just so good.
Damaris
How does he do it?
Maul
Look at him, man. Look at him go, man.
Ryan
I was using that I feel like we've known each other line before. It was mainstream.
Maul
Yeah, you was on the ground.
Ryan
Feel like we've known each other forever.
Maul
You was ending with that.
Ryan
It's like. It's definitely grassroots. I was fat beats at the. I was the raucous of that.
Maul
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ryan
Like not knowing. Only knowing each other. Tonight just feels like we've known each other forever. I'm so comfortable around you.
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Maul
I think that's what you do with AI.
Ryan
Y' all got no ego with top.
Maul
Yeah, yeah, she can do whatever. Just. Just upload the beat and let Tata do what she want to do. Like, you know, that caused.
Ryan
I had to play catch up over the weekend. Of course that caused a lot within not just hip hop, but the producer community. Timberland announced that he has his new AI artist partnered with, with Stage Zero, I believe it is. And he's introducing Tata. That is a living, learning music artist. They tried to flip it in the press release that it's not AI to the point that I started reading like, oh wait, is it artists that they're using AI with? And then I got to the end of the article, I was like, no, this is a made up person. They said she's. They said she's living and breathing. No, she's not.
Maul
She's not an avatar. She's not a character.
Ryan
Yes, she is.
Maul
Tata is a living, learning, autonomous music artists. Autonomous music artists.
Ryan
He wrote this for them too. Built with AI, wrote this.
Maul
Tata is the start of something bigger. You don't say. She's the first artist of a new generation. A pop is the next apop is the next cultural evolution and Tata is its first icon. Yeah, I saw as I knew I would. I saw Guru on IG Live.
Ryan
Shouts to Guru, respect. Also a great example if you can have just honest conversation with each other without disrespect.
Maul
Because you know there's no disrespect.
Ryan
No, no, of course. But I love that Guru, like even in the comment he left under this release of how this is problematic, like, Tim, I love you. I'm having this, I want to have this conversation with you because I love you. Yeah, this could harm all of us.
Maul
We all love and respect and appreciate.
Ryan
And Tim to take that information.
Maul
Yeah, it has given us that goes without saying. I gave Timbaland the thumbs down when we were sitting with JD and I asked him about this at BET week and I still give Tim a thumbs down. Timbla's not supposed to be attached or a part of any of this. This is not the way we want to go with music. We already with the music industry and the music business being the way it is and ran the way it is for us to now be implementing artists and songs and music to this type of technology. I just don't think Timbaland's brand should be a part of this.
Ryan
I mean, Swizz brought up an interesting point that I. I guess I agree because I do not agree. I'm on the side of Guru with everything that he said about how these AI artists are legitimately just digesting catalogs of music to create how good they are. And no artist or producer, we don't even know what they're using. Like you can legitimately upload an entire catalog to create this AI shit with no back end to the artist at all. Like how is that fair? If I give you Jay Z and Nas computer and they're like they have the ability to be just as good is fucking insane.
Maul
Right.
Ryan
And you don't give credit to any of the artists. Very detrimental to the community of creatives. But I do see what Swizz is saying on the tech side. This AI shit is happening regardless. And you even saw he didn't mention this part, but I knew what he was getting at. Black artists were late on the streaming side. We even saw what would hove had to do with Tidal to try to keep up with what was going on with Spotify and Apple and how everything was switching to streaming every Everybody was late. If the white artists are already going to use it and are ahead of it, why can't Tim get in there as well? Because it's going to happen.
Maul
Yeah, but that don't mean a lot of.
Ryan
And when the rules start to change the way streaming has where that is the only way the biggest community consumes music. Yeah. A lot of people thought streaming may be detrimental and we weren't getting paid enough. And there was different slides of who was getting paid this and paid that. If you don't set the rules now and make sure that all the communities are represented and everything is fair in this, it could get even crazier when AI becomes the standard. The way streaming became the standard yeah, but. And I'm not saying Tim is doing this because he definitely didn't mention that in the press release. Like, this is to make sure black creatives are taken care of. This bitch is a K Pop video game. And no disrespect to K pop, yet. I've been attacked by enough.
Damaris
I was gonna say.
Ryan
I was gonna say been attacked by enough groups over the past few months. I think it is safe to say that K pop is very much influenced by black culture. Is that a crazy statement?
Maul
No, it's not.
Ryan
You could make the statement a bit crazier than the word influenced. But with that said, I see what Swizz is saying. I don't think that's Tim's intentions at all.
Maul
But I don't. I don't think that Timbaland, Swiss, any of our greatest producers and musicians have to do anything with AI artists. I don't think. I don't think they have to at all. At all.
Ryan
I'm with you.
Maul
I get. I get AI as a technology that is here, that is happening and all of this. I get that. But when it comes to musicians and. And making music and things like that, God bless his soul, I find it very hard to even fathom or think that Quincy Jones would have ever been a part of anything like this.
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Maul
I don't think Stevie Wonders, Stevie Wonder, will ever lend his musical ability to anything, AI. I don't think so, but.
Ryan
Yeah, I agree. But you don't know the Stevie Wonder that is born in 2022. And this is already close to what a standard is with certain music business. 2025, when that kid grows up in this era, that's all they'll know. Like, it'll just be it. Like, if Stevie was born in 2025 and then in 15 years when he started to, like, want to become an artist, this is going to be a standard. So I don't. I don't know if Stevie would have.
Maul
Been like, nope, I don't. I don't believe in him. I think.
Ryan
I think for me, like, I, He.
Rory
He.
Ryan
He'd be coming up in a. In a society, in a music world where this wasn't taboo. This is just what's being taught to you.
Maul
I don't think so.
Ryan
I hope not. I hope I'm wrong about that. But.
Maul
Yeah, because I don't think that. I don't. Shit, I don't think you would ever do anything with AI.
Ryan
But I see, I don't know that. Because even before, like, I love the paywall shit. And I think streaming is detrimental. We talk. We've been talking for 10 years about how much it fucks over artists. I have to use it like it's. It's in is the era that I'm in. And a kid. Yeah, a kid that was born in the streaming.
Maul
That's different than having an artist that's not a real person. And you just implement your musicianship. And as Timberland goes and takes his production and puts it into a file and they take an artist, run it through a program. I can't even call it artist. I run it through a program and then now you have a record. I just don't. There's so many musicians that we taking a. We're taking the soul out of couldn't. We're taking the soul out of musicianship. We're taking the soul out of artistry. Like, if we're just going to use a program to create a song and to create. It's like, I just don't. There are a lot of musicians that I think young musicians that I don't think would ever be a part of anything like this. I don't. I just don't see it.
Ryan
Yeah. And I mean, I saw a lot of other people that are very much pro AI and it's here now. So I'm going to utilize it and I'm not going to be left behind. Say this is what people said about sampling is what people said about Auto Tune. Yeah, it was said. But this. This is apples and bowling balls. Like, I can see why some artists were mad about sampling outside of it, if you were actually stealing. But just how it took away from music. And even when Prince said, at what point are we going to get that? The sample is being sampled by the sample. The sample. But Prince sampled as well. But he was just saying it's getting a little too ridiculous now. Auto Tune as well, that was frowned upon, even though people were using autotune at a very light level and no one knew. When it went all the way up, it was killed. And now it's a standard. I still don't think it's the same as. As Tata.
Maul
Yeah, but it's a standard. It's a standard for people that can't really perform to a certain level. Auto Tune is a standard for somebody that can't sing in key, somebody that can't stay on tune, somebody that it's okay. You felt this is kind of out of key. This note was a little flat. Let me implement this technology to adjust it. And make it sound good. I. Whitney Houston didn't have that problem. No, Beyonce doesn't have that problem.
Damaris
Very true.
Maul
Like you, you have the greats. Jasmine Sullivan is not auto tuned.
Ryan
But there's also music.
Maul
Alex Osley is not auto tuned.
Ryan
Fair. And I think they're. That's a stat that they have and should be proud of and we should honor and make sure that people know.
Maul
That they're real musicians. They're real.
Ryan
But there's music that I love that uses some tune.
Maul
I'm not, I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this music. I'm not saying this music that doesn't use that isn't good. I'm just saying it's not the standard.
Ryan
I've heard Kendrick, Drake and Cole use a ton of tune on stuff that I've loved.
Maul
Absolutely. But it's not the standard.
Ryan
Yeah.
Damaris
Not the complete sound of auto tune. But auto tune being used originally, before people started turning it all the way up. What it was used for to clear up like a couple crackly vocals. People have been. I'm sure Beyonce has used it before. I'm sure Jasmine has used it.
Ryan
I'm sure in Beyonce settings right now there is some tune. But that's. That's.
Damaris
Yeah, like so it's just because people are using it more and more and.
Maul
Turn it up a little bit. I think it's disrespectful to Beyonce. I don't think she uses autotune at all on any of her vocals.
Ryan
I don't know.
Damaris
I can't say for sure, for sure, for certain.
Maul
But they're mixing vocals is something different. I don't think anybody has to pitch correct Beyonce's vocals. I just don't think so. I don't think so.
Damaris
I feel like every artist has a bad day sometimes.
Maul
Yeah. But I'm saying Beyonce's bad day. She'll just come back on a good day.
Damaris
Okay, that's. That's. Listen, I don't know. That's.
Ryan
And I mean even with. I'll never sit here to pretend to know every last thing about mixing and mastering. But no matter what, in this era, if you are cutting through pro tools at it's like almost automatic is going to smooth out some stuff no matter who you are.
Maul
Listen, I get.
Ryan
I get there's gonna be a touch somewhere.
Maul
I get that. I get that part of it. But you know the auto tune I'm talking.
Ryan
Oh yeah, for sure.
Maul
Like, I don't mean under the artist, but you know the tune. I'm talking about.
Ryan
I think it works where it works. Like, I don't know what did anyone think Zap and Rogers, like, that was. Talk box was used in a creative way, in that even though it's not straight auto tune and you know it takes.
Maul
But that's because that was the sound. Yeah, exact sound.
Ryan
Yeah. You're playing it through the keyboard. Like there's. It takes talent.
F
Right?
Ryan
And what I think T. Pain can really sing. For real.
Maul
All right. Do we have voicemails?
Ryan
Yes. You've got mail sponsored by Roe.
Maul
Ro will help you grow. Rory.
Ryan
You cannot spell Rory without row. That is a fact.
Maul
Here you go.
H
Yo, what it is, man? It's your boy Cliff calling in from East Texas, man. Shout out to the pod. Love what y' all do, bro. Keep doing what y' all doing, but I need some homie advice. So the homie just separated from his wife, for preference. We probably met our wives around the same time. We was young, probably like 24, 25, something like that. We're 30 now. Turning 31 this year. So when I was back out on the streets, you know what I'm saying, she took his 20s, now he has his 30s type shit. But anyway, bro, it's like, I'm trying to. I'm trying to figure out what to tell my bro, man. I'm trying to. I'm trying to, like, I'm giving them all the, like, you know what I'm saying? The regular God vice type shit. Like, bro, get credit later, bro. Keep your head up, you know what I'm saying? Keep. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't that up. But, you know, it's a whole lifestyle change or whatever. And if I'm being for real, bro, this was a situation we kind of knew was coming. Like, he the last to know type. But like, he's straight, bro. He my gonna bounce back. He'll be all right in time type. But what advice should I give the homie, man? Should I just be like, you know, knock down the first thing you see walking, bro, you know what I'm saying? Just to get the wind underneath his wings type. But I don't know it also, though, he the homie that's kind of like the serial monogamous. Like, my loves a relationship. I'm like, bro, just chill, homie. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I don't know. So I kind of trying to like, my, like, yo, bro, you know, focus on you type or what, man? What should I be telling the homie at this Time, bro. Love.
Ryan
I. I mean, should we gear the advice more towards the gentleman that left the voicemail? Because he's going to be the one that's going to end up in some hot water if his man's goes out. You have to understand, his girl looked at his friend as. This was the couple that we hung out with. That's a safe guy. We're both engaged. I'm sure the girls probably relatively got along. Like, that's. I know if he going out with him, everything's cool because that's also an engaged guy. Then I'll be doing bullshit. That friend. Now if he hits the streets heavy, his fiance is going to look at him weird like, what y' all doing out there? That's not to say friend anymore. He should be very careful on how he moves with his friend because that's gonna cause arguments in the house for sure.
Maul
The idea of hitting the streets just sound crazy to me. Like, it's just so nasty out there right now. Hitting the streets for what, nigga? If you could get your girl, go get her back.
Ryan
I mean, I don't know. In 2025, it's 31. Like, that crazy to be newly single back in the day, it probably was, but, like, I don't. People are getting married at least up here. I know the south is probably a little different, but people aren't getting married that early anymore. Like, it's not that. It's not that crazy at all to get back out there at 31. I feel like, especially as a man.
Maul
You should get back out there. Like, where are we getting to? Like, what are we doing? Are we. Are we? Are we? Are we in the club scene? Are we?
Ryan
Like, you could be in the club at 31.
Maul
You can be, but I don't know if you want to be, though.
Damaris
Depends on the type of club.
Maul
Like, where do people go? Like, what's a good club to go to?
Damaris
Well, New York has no clubs, right? So, like, if you're down south, you.
Maul
Said that shit and tried to move on. Like, New York has no clubs. That is crazy to say that. This is New York City we talking about.
Ryan
I mean, the fact that little sisters had this run tells me that. Because before a club would have two years, they change the name and be like, yo, that used to be Canal Room. Now it's this. It's just. Little sister just got like a decade run right now.
Maul
Yeah, that's. It's. I don't know, man. I mean, you know, being 31 and being single is not a bad Thing, I guess. Just be careful of where you place your energy though. Don't go out there and just try to jump into the mix of the.
Ryan
Fuck the first thing that you see.
Maul
Yeah, don't do that. Cause that's how you gonna bump your head. Don't do that. Slow down. Go put it in neutral. You know, just take things easy. Go out there, you know, observe the landscape, you know, for. Learn the lingo. You know what I'm saying? Like you gotta.
Ryan
Yeah, learn the lingo is funny.
Maul
Yeah. Cause you, you, you in a new. This is new territory for you. You've been your whole twenties, you was in a committed relationship. Now you're in your 30s, you don't want to just be out there just doing anything. Like you still got to kind of, you know, saying, preserve your legacy a little bit.
Ryan
Yeah. And if he's on the serial monogamous shit, like, don't go out there and not fuck the first thing the wife. The first thing that you see.
Maul
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Ryan
I'm lonely. So just be here.
Maul
Go out there, observe. Make sure you know who you around, who you talking to. Don't get caught up with the wrong type of women. Like, it's tough, man.
Ryan
Maybe even to get your feet wet. Spin the block with a girl you can trust. That's just gonna clown you for the first night of saying, I told you it wouldn't work out with that bitch. Welcome home.
Maul
But who you spend a block with, he was in a relationship his whole 20s. You spend a block with somebody from high school.
Ryan
25, they met their fiance, I think you said. Okay, they're 31 now, so five, six years. Okay, I'm sure in his early 20s there was one girl that, that he was like somebody you could trust.
Damaris
Don't spend a block. Learn from me and Rory. Don't spend a block.
Ryan
But it makes you comfortable coming out of something that, like.
Maul
Don't try to talk over that. Rory. Let, let, let demar. What she said let that breathe.
Ryan
I was trying to get past it.
Maul
No, no, no, no, no. We not getting past it.
Ryan
Change the subject.
Maul
Let that breathe. That's. She just opened a bottle of red wine. Let that breathe for a second. Thess. What you mean learn from you and Rory?
Damaris
Learn from me and Rory.
Maul
You're still spinning now.
Damaris
I promise you. I promise you. We avenue now. I promise you.
Maul
One burgers and bottles. This is why I hate Baby D. Cuz she take her ass to one.
Ryan
Burger, one cartwheel in Denzel's Hill Yeah.
Maul
Now all of a sudden, nobody better not dap her dime. What's up with you? Yo, what's up?
Damaris
We ain't our new blocks. I ain't been to Mount Vernon before. It's whole new there. I ain't never seen them before.
Maul
Yeah, the block, baby. I'm gonna tell you right now, if I see you hanging out in Mount Vernon, I'm whoop, I'm like, you know, right? Get your ass out of here. Get out of Mount Vernon.
Ryan
She talking like this is some other land that is up the sawmill.
Maul
Them ain't just like us.
Damaris
That's fine. Ain't they got new smell. It got a new smell. Tired of the same old.
Maul
Them got front yards and backyards. I will say that them in Mount Vernon got a front.
Ryan
And they take the metro North. We take the subway. Like, yeah, this is. I get why they would want to.
Maul
Feel a little different. It's a little. But they still ain't though. I know a bunch of. In my ver ain't.
Damaris
That's fine. But to Rory's point, just Rory telling you to spend a block because that's what he would do. And me and him have both learned not to do that anymore. Because you're a new person. Go be a new person. Go meet new people. Go enjoy your life. Stop trying to go backwards and relive the glory days and live in your comfort ways. Don't spin the block. I'm telling you.
Ryan
I'm not saying spin the block the way you and I may have where that then becomes the other relationship.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
Like you spin the block. It's like, all right, well, that didn't work out. So now I'm in a relationship with the girl I was with before. I'm not saying that. Saying to get your feet wet because you haven't, you know, been outside. A stranger can be a little weird. Someone you can trust. That type of spinning the block. I'm making it a thing, man.
Damaris
That's scary either way.
Maul
31.
Ryan
I'm not saying a 10 year toxic relationship.
Maul
No, no, no. I get what you should say.
Ryan
Should follow this because you spun the block. But you know somebody that, you know what their pussy sounds like.
Maul
Yeah. You have some type of rapport with them. You can, you know, it's just. It's a little comfort zone there. Yeah. Not going in cold and just.
Ryan
She going to tease you for a little bit, but that's. That comes with it.
Maul
Yeah. Nothing wrong with a little tease when you newly single. But get the blood going or I.
Ryan
Mean, I don't know, man. I don't know. Your personality. Maybe the best way to get out of your serial monogamous shit and this breakup is to just go a bunch of random civilians.
Maul
Or listen to some sugar free.
Ryan
Take that work.
Maul
You got to just play sugar free. He'll tell you exactly how to move.
Ryan
But, I mean, again, I'm. I'm nervous for his friend because if. If his decision is to go out and, you know, find some random new pussy and really get out there, he's gonna. He's gonna need his man's with him, and that puts you in a compromising situation.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
And, you know, like, what if. If your girl still talks to his ex? Like, that's rough. I don't want to be involved in that.
Maul
Yeah, man, I don't know who got.
Ryan
Who in the divorce. That's always rough, too.
Maul
You gotta ride with your man no matter what.
Ryan
No, of course. But we've even had voicemails about that type of situation where he had to, like, quietly talk to his mans. Cause his wife was like, no, we got the girl in the divorce. You don't fuck with him no more.
Maul
I wish my girl would tell me, you don't fuck with him no more. It's my man.
Ryan
I've never dated a girl that I think would do that. With your homegirl, it's pretty common.
Maul
If my girl was to be like, yo, nah, we ain't. What.
Damaris
We off that. What if he. All right. What if he violated her? Gave her something she can't get rid of.
Maul
Oh, no, that's.
Ryan
Well, that's crazy. It's out of your hands at that point.
Maul
At that point, it's like, yo, your son, you wild. Like, yeah. And, no, you can't come back in my house. Like.
Ryan
And the fact that you thought you could is crazy.
Maul
You can't do that.
Damaris
Or he had a baby on her. Like, that's wild. You can't do that.
Maul
Nah. Now, baby is different. A baby versus a std.
Ryan
They're both things that stay with you.
Maul
Yeah, but a baby's not a transmitted disease, bro. Like, that's not like, if.
Ryan
I've met some kids that I feel like are std.
Maul
Nah, man, y' all look crazy.
Damaris
He just told you Amara was throwing on his walls the other day, so relax.
Maul
Yeah, it's home. She's giving us some colors.
Ryan
I was talking about other people's kids.
Maul
Nah, but I. I mean, if. If my homeboy was dating my girl's best friend and kind of was like, you Know that type of situation. And he had a baby on her.
Ryan
That's. Yeah, you probably have to stay out of that one. That's kind of nuts.
Maul
But I'm not going to stop talking to my homeboy forever, though. I'm not.
Ryan
They're in a. They're engaged and he has a. Cheats as a child while they're engaged. That's. Yes, that's. That's. That's past gonorrhea. I'm sorry.
Maul
So you wouldn't. You would never talk to him again.
Ryan
That would be a weird relationship if my wife is friends with. Like, that was. That was our crew, the four of us, for five years. Yeah. That's a very awkward situation.
Maul
I'm not saying he could come to the crib and still kick it with you while you're girl. I'm not saying that.
Ryan
Like, imagine.
Maul
But you would never talk to him.
Ryan
No, no, I'm not saying that.
Maul
Okay.
Ryan
But I'm saying it'd be a tough situation to navigate. Like, imagine you come home from work and your wife and his ex are chilling because everyone was friends and it's like, yo, what you doing tomorrow? Oh, I'm going to his baby shower. Like, it's weird. Yeah. I'm not saying it'd be a weird situation.
Maul
He probably couldn't come back in my house because obviously my girl wouldn't want to fucking see him in our house.
Damaris
You know, and she can't bring the new bitch around neither. Don't bring your new bitch round around who? Around me. You can't have your one. If he goes, oh, no, my girl.
Maul
My girl would never probably hang out.
Ryan
Yeah.
Maul
Now if he. If. If the game is on and he having something at the crib, he let your mom pull up. I'm not gonna not go to my man crib. Oh, you definitely could go, but he can't come to. He can't be around my girl like me, you know, he can't hang out with me and my girl no more.
Ryan
And again, this went back to one of the voicemails. But then, like, when life situations happen, let's say he's married to his wife. They have a kid now. I can't, like, can I invite my man to our baby shower? Because that's going to be awkward having both of them there.
Damaris
I feel like that happens so often.
Ryan
Though, in that scenario.
Damaris
Well, not that exact scenario, but like, when the exes.
Ryan
I've been in that situation for sure, where, you know, there's mutual friends with exes and you guys end up at the same life events like birthday parties, baby showers, funerals. Funerals are always the awkward one because, like. Like, you're trying to mourn, but then it's always in the black. She's here, too.
Damaris
I gotta put that on and come to the funeral because I know my ex gonna be there.
Ryan
Yeah. I'm warning two things here.
Maul
I told y' all about the time my childhood friend, like, didn't invite me to their wedding.
Damaris
Yeah.
Maul
Because I. That. That's not crazy, y' all.
Damaris
It is. It is.
Ryan
Like, how close were y' all? Like, at the time?
Maul
We were close. We grew up together. We all grew up together. But me and her had dated at one point, you know, a little bit, and then they got together, like, just.
Ryan
Left out, like, one of the biggest elements of that entire thing. At first, I was like, this guy sounds like a real asshole. Now this guy sounds like someone that's trying to have a peaceful wedding.
Maul
But why would it not be peaceful, though? Like, I'm not going.
Damaris
It was beat.
Maul
Yeah, but this was before they got together, though. This was years before they got together.
Ryan
I can see it being awkward.
Damaris
Even if he was gonna be awkward. If it was that awkward, you shouldn't have got with her. If it was that awkward, you should.
Maul
Have gotten with her. Yeah. Like, if it's to the point where you feel like. Because it ain't awkward for me. Like, it's all. We fam. We was kid. We was teenagers, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck are we talking about?
Ryan
I mean, what if they're. What if both of them were fine with it? And maybe he actually had slept with one of her friends before, but they. They cool with the past of the past type shit. But then the rule is nobody at the wedding that you fucked and you just. You folded into the mix.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
Maybe you were one of a couple on a list.
Damaris
I'm sure that's a lot of people's wedding rule. Nobody.
Ryan
Yeah. Like, even if that's your friend, like, I. But still, I just. Not that at the wedding. I don't know. Did you ever talk to him about it?
Maul
No.
Ryan
Okay. Find out. I mean, it could have been a. A plate thing. I don't know, because it costs extra. You're the only vegan, and now the chef has to make one.
Maul
I wasn't vegan at the time.
Ryan
For someone else.
Maul
You.
Ryan
Like, they got. They got a deal from the place, and there was no vegan option.
Maul
I wasn't vegan at the time. For the Second time, Rory. The time they got married, I was not vegan.
Ryan
Pescatarian, Whatever.
Maul
The. I wasn't pescatarian either. No problem. No, I wasn't. I wasn't pescatarian. I was still eating chicken. And this was some years ago. Well, they didn't invite me to the wedding.
Damaris
I mean, weddings are expensive. Like, if you got to leave somebody off, it's like, I'm not gonna take my Aunt Mary off so that the. You could be there. Like, no, like somebody. Some people, everybody can't come. Yeah, but open bar limit, 400 people, everybody can't come.
Maul
I mean, I'm not mad, but it is. It was kind of like, like, word. Like. Okay.
Ryan
Have you ever had the opposite of why am I invited to this wedding?
Maul
Absolutely.
Ryan
And then it's happened to me twice.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
And I felt weird, like if I don't go, that's like rude. If someone invites you to their wedding, they're paying. Like, that's rude as.
Damaris
Don't rsvp.
Ryan
And then I got. And I got there and doubled down on my feeling. Why am I here? Yeah, why would you invite me here? We are not close at all.
Damaris
Well, some people don't have anybody to invite.
Ryan
There was like 500 people at that wedding.
Maul
If you ain't got nobody invite to your wedding, you shouldn't be having a wedding. Just go to the justice of Peace City hall and do that. And getting over with.
Damaris
If y' all was beefing at that wedding, y' all should have been fighting at that wedding.
Ryan
Why you.
Damaris
Why would you bring that to somebody else club?
Ryan
That's a spot on impression.
Maul
Yo, wait. Baddies. Africa.
Ryan
Hold on.
Maul
Caught up.
Ryan
How the do we forget to add this to the BET story? I don't know who we were interviewing.
Maul
BTB man. Diamond the body. Shout out to diamond, man, it was such a pleasure meeting her. She's super cool. I feel like she would be there watching. Watching the show. I felt like she would be really cool.
Ryan
Me and Peach were trying to see if the footage would work. We was mid interview. Who are we talking to? We saw the Russell. And then you just in the middle just started screaming, Diamond, I think you might have stood up. You may have went out of frame.
Maul
No, we were in the middle of an interview. We had just wrapped in.
Ryan
He was like, you gotta come now.
Maul
Yeah. She had walked over. Shout out to my girl, Dominic the body man. She was really cool talking to her, man. She got a. She got a new song coming out and she. When she. Next time she's in New York she's talking about. She wants. Says she want to stop by and come. Come see us. Come kick it with us. So I'm looking forward to that.
Ryan
Okay. So I started Baddies Africa last night.
Maul
Yes, you did.
Ryan
Which. Which I texted you.
Maul
Yes, it's the crazy.
Ryan
And. And because, you know, it's similar to like Curb, you can start it at any episode.
Maul
Yeah, yeah.
Ryan
I started at three because I did want to watch the episode of them fighting for the beds.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
It might be the most offensive show I have ever seen. Damaris in Africa in the backyard. Right? At the baddies house.
Damaris
Yes.
Ryan
Yeah, they have a bunch of Africans standing there in the whole get up with the face paint. They might as well had a spear. There's a whole crew of them as the circus.
Maul
I don't know if I like that. Right. J.
Ryan
Just to watch them fight, they might.
Maul
As well had a spear. I don't know if I like that.
Ryan
I'm saying it was the stereotypical.
Damaris
I get what stereotypical?
Maul
That was the White Olive. And let me break it down to Damaris. Damaris. What it was was it was a bunch of kids from a program that are dancers and singers, and they were welcoming the baddies to the batty house and they were standing in the backyard and they had on their costumes that they perform in. Rory is making it sound like these people were in the middle of the fucking jungle hunting for their food.
Ryan
No, they were at a very nice house. I'm saying they then took after their dance and made it the circle at recess to fight in while all of these kids look petrified but did not break character.
Maul
That was awkward, that episode. Yeah, they fighting in front of those kids like that. Like. Yeah, that was crazy.
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Ryan
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Damaris
Granny could have had Chlamy or grandpa could have had Chlamydia. Cuz, you know, old do not go to the doctor. Grandpa could have had chlamydia for 30 years and he was only his wife, so they both just had it and then she died and now he don't.
Ryan
Clap is like the common cold that it just goes away without burning for 30 years.
Damaris
If you thinking, don't be having STDs for 20 some years. These older people. These older people ain't going to the doctors to get their dick swabbed, bro. If. Especially if they're unsymptomatic or asymptomatic. They're not going to do that. They just got that HPV syphilis a lot of times. Syphilis before they know they even got syphilis. Yeah, yeah.
Maul
I guess at that age you just happy your still work.
Damaris
Yeah, they don't give a. Yeah.
Ryan
If my work at that age. Chlamydia is the last thing on my mind. But yeah, it works.
Damaris
Just because you older don't mean you stop missing companionship and love.
Maul
Yeah, companionship and love is different. Chlamydia is another thing I would.
Damaris
Well, I didn't say. I'm just saying that older people be fucking.
Maul
Okay. So Granny got back out there.
Damaris
She. Yeah, she had a little boyfriend.
Maul
Okay. She needs somebody around the house. You need that companionship, that company.
Damaris
Yeah. She had a little boy.
Maul
I ain't mad at that. Go ahead, Granny.
Ryan
What, what you gonna call him? Grandpa?
Maul
Me? Yeah. I don't know that. My grandfather like, granny, get all my love and respect that. Who is that? I don't know that.
Ryan
Tell us about the war.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
So now Granny bringing somebody to like to a holiday would be kind of crazy though.
Maul
Yeah. Your grandmother walking with a new boyfriend on the holiday after your grandfather died. It's like, what are we gonna do? We can't beat, we can't jump them.
Ryan
And that has to be intimidating on the other side too because like just dating somebody with a kid is a thing in itself. You got five kids, 10 grandchildren. Like I'm just walking into that shit.
Maul
And they always front and older dudes always front. Like they just take your grandmother to run errands, you know, I just take her to go get her groceries and. Yeah, you in there. My grandmother. Shut up. Stop making it seem like you just pick my grandmother up, like you accessorize or something. You take my grandmother to get her groceries and you go back and eat her groceries.
Ryan
It's not just bingo on Tuesdays.
Maul
Yeah, she got new. She got new house dresses. She walking around in now all of.
Ryan
A sudden, smelling different.
Maul
Yeah, them slippers. Them ain't the same slippers you had on. 2. 2 for the last three years, man. New slippers. She getting her hair done now. Got them little pin curls in there. Granny, what you doing? You in there. You in there. She.
Ryan
She got Hulu at the crib now. How your grandmother got a streaming service now?
Maul
Yeah, Granny in there humping, humping Mr. Fred. It's always a Mr. Fred, too. He want you to call him Mister. I'm not calling you Mr. Fred.
Ryan
My 30s, I'm a grown Mr. Fred.
Maul
Get the out of here.
Damaris
I think that was his name, too.
Maul
It's always a Mr. Freddie.
Ryan
His name was Michael, but you called him Mr. Fred.
Maul
Mr. Fred.
Ryan
I would want Granny to get into her grave, though, for sure.
Maul
I mean, that's what she want. I don't want to see it, though.
Ryan
I'm not suggesting see it.
Maul
Yeah, I don't want it. I don't want to see it. I don't even want to know about it. But have fun, Granny.
Ryan
Do what you do, but don't. Like once she passed, like. You're not a part of this.
Maul
No, don't do that.
Ryan
You're not front row. You're not in the front pew.
Maul
He has to be. That's family. Don't do that.
Ryan
You're not entitled.
Maul
If your grandmother has a boyfriend and your grandmother passes away, he's allowed to come to the funeral.
Ryan
No, no, he can go to the funeral. I never said that. You're not in the first family pew.
Damaris
Why not?
Ryan
It's gonna be pew, pew. What the Are you talking about? In the first pew?
Maul
Yes, that's your grandmother.
Ryan
There's certain cousins that don't even make the first pew.
Maul
But that's your grandmother's. That's her boyfriend.
Damaris
That's her boyfriend. That was her man. He knew her intimately.
Maul
Yeah, he was taking care of her. The days you didn't want to go to Granny's house, Mr. Fred was there breakfast. Mr. Fred.
Ryan
How long were they dating?
Damaris
Ten years.
Ryan
Oh, all right. Never mind. That's way hard.
I
All right.
Ryan
No, no. Ten years.
Damaris
Of course, because I even think five years. I think five years.
Ryan
He deserves five years. No, no, you. You third. You third view.
Maul
Five years.
Ryan
That's five Christmases.
Maul
Five years.
Ryan
She's 75.
Maul
She only got five left. No, she's dead.
Ryan
She's in the cat.
Maul
She only had five left. It ain't my fault.
Ryan
Last five years, you're Pew3. And if my grandfather's still alive. He's P1.
Damaris
You're disrespectful.
Ryan
Is he a Palmer? Five years in, he can't carry no goddamn casket.
Maul
He. His funeral next week. Can he be a problem?
Ryan
And he gonna do that now that she died? I'm dying. Yeah, you just.
Maul
Oh, yeah, I had to go with it. I had to go. Yeah, I had to go with it. I had to go with my.
Ryan
Okay. But you know, there's part the back of the Paul bear. You don't really have to carry anything. You could just be there for show. I've been a polar bear enough times. I know what I know. The weight distribution.
Maul
Yeah. He walks behind a casket. He walks right.
Ryan
Five years. Yeah. No.
Damaris
You a hater.
Ryan
With the amount of cousins, uncles.
Damaris
I'm gonna keep it real. True. I'm keep it real true. Your grandmother didn't. Your grandmother died, God bless her. So I guarantee you she ain't with 75% of your cousins. And you know that.
Ryan
True.
Damaris
I guarantee you she loved her mother.
Ryan
My grandmother and my grandfather pulled me aside when I was. Was like 20. When I was at St. Peter's no, it was right before I got kicked out of 19 and said, it's really just up to you.
Damaris
The way to.
Ryan
I swear to God, both my grandparents are dead. And thank God, they pause died. Like, pause died together. I don't know where there was a pause there and there was not a Mr. Fred anywhere around, but they really pulled me aside and said, it's really up to you.
Maul
Your grandparents died together?
Damaris
No, like a week or two.
Ryan
So a month. My grandfather died during COVID He fell down the steps and then covet happened. He wasn't able to see anybody. So, like, his health deteriorated right away. And he passed. And then my only Republican uncle was like, they're just folding him into the COVID numbers. I was like, uncle Paul now is like. Of all the times that you want to talk about your Republican, like, can we just not do this right now?
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
So my grandmother had Alzheimer's and my grandfather refused to ever go to a. That's why he fell down the steps. Prideful Irish guy. Grandma had Alzheimer's, was taking care of her. She went from uncle, aunt, house to house, and it got too crazy. So she went to a home. And the doctor said the only reason she stayed alive was because of her Alzheimer's, because every day she forgot that he died. And then we were talking to the doctor when she passed, and he was like, it takes a while with patients from Alzheimer's for their body to set in that the person was gone. I was like, oh, wow. That was, like, deeply fucking romantic, Doc.
Maul
Wow.
Ryan
But, yeah, Alzheimer's can keep because they were together since they were 19. My grandfather died when he was 93. My grandmother died when she was 91. 92.
Damaris
Crazy.
Ryan
And he was like, yeah, Alzheimer's makes them forget that. And it took her body more time to figure that shit out. And then I was like, yeah, my grandfather was wearing that out. If it took her body some time.
Maul
We never needed, Mr. Fred knocked the memory out of us.
Damaris
All right, okay, My bad.
Maul
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man.
Ryan
But with that said, if my grandmother dated somebody else five years. No. Even if she didn't. With my cousins that don't even come around and check on anybody, They're a pallbearer before Mr. Fred for sure.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
You don't get to be a Paul Bear.
Maul
You could walk behind the casket. They're right behind the casket.
Ryan
Q3.
Maul
That was my girlfriend. That was my lady. My Mrs.
Damaris
He loved her.
Ryan
Yeah, but we don't even know, like, did you claim her like that? Like, I don't even know what you else. You better than nursing home.
Damaris
How you cl. How you claim people when you old? Like, how you. Like, y' all go to church together?
Maul
No, you do a cardi and stuff on there. You post each other on ig.
Ryan
There's a lot of women that'll show up to a theater on the plane. They was a girlfriend, too, and they wasn't. You're not even Pew3.
Maul
That. That happens. That that happens.
Ryan
And they've been dating for 15 years.
Maul
Yeah, that happens. You find out somebody got a kids, you ain't even know you was in 15 years. Like, you got kids. He was with her for 15 years. She ain't know you got kids. I seen some crazy shit at funerals, man. Funerals. It's gonna come out. I'm dead and gone. Fuck it. Y' all do what y' all want, man. I ain't.
Damaris
I have anxiety from the grave. Please, Lord, please, please. Don't let nobody sit next to each other. Don't let nobody talk. You know, niggas be at the repass talking about good times. Times start overlapping.
Maul
Time start up. Seven years.
Damaris
Seven.
Maul
Seven years more. It's always seven. It's always seven.
Ryan
Five or seven, depending on what it is. It's five or seven.
Maul
Five or seven, always.
Damaris
It's always funny.
Maul
Seven years ago. Seven. Which years ago.
Ryan
Which side of y' all family are you more worried about with funerals as far as what being exposed or how it's gonna go.
Maul
My mom's side, my dad's side, my mom's side of the family is certified crazy. Certified. Some gonna happen at a funeral in.
Ryan
My mom's side, my dad's side is going to be louder and more obnoxious, maybe more physical, but everything's going to be fine. My mother's side scares me more because it'll be like, yo, you know you touch kids, right? Like it'll be the very subtle weird that they'll hold. I'm more terrified of my mother's side when it comes to funerals. More insane is going to come out. 100 on her side.
Maul
100.
Ryan
My dad's side is going to be loud, angry, drunk, drunk people.
Maul
Yeah.
Ryan
And everyone will be fine. After you're gonna hear some dark like, well, nobody brought this up when he was alive.
Maul
I don't know why I hear crying about Uncle Teddy.
Ryan
You know what he used to do?
Maul
You know what he used to stop.
Ryan
That's my mom's side.
Maul
Yeah, no, I can see that.
Ryan
I thought we're here to honor him, not bring out his deepest dark. Yo. He's been at every Thanksgiving. What the.
Maul
Right?
Ryan
So either way, stay away from Mr. Fred.
Maul
Nah. Shout out to Mr. Fred's around the world.
Damaris
Yeah, shout out to them.
Maul
Taking care of grandmothers. Taking care of grandmothers and their LA years after their spouse passed away.
Ryan
You've got mail. All right. Yeah, that got dark. Let's. Let's get to voicemails.
Maul
Let's do it.
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Hey, what's going on? I enjoy the show. I'm gonna keep this anonymous. Two part question one. What is the dumbest argument you've had in a relationship? And while I express my dumbest part of, you know, argument a relationship, let me know if I'm in the right or wrong. So my job got rid of the telework, so I go in five days a week now, and it just makes sense to join the gym at my job. And ever since I've joined, I go to the gym at least four times a week now. My wife hit me up the other day and we're just like, you know, I think you need to either slow down or just stop so you can allow me sometime just to catch up. But my problem is she has been motivated to. To work out. Granted, I haven't stopped working out myself, but, you know, it was just like, you know, I don't know if there's any type of insecurities for why she would want me to stop or slow down. And yet she's not doing anything or so I understand that women. I would love Damaris's perspective on this as well, but I understand, you know, women can have some insecurities. I still find my wife attractive, beautiful, all that. But, you know, we definitely bump heads with it because I haven't stopped, but yet she hasn't started. And I just want to know who was in the right or wrong. And I have all, you know, we do go walking together as a couple. That's good, you know, a couple times a week when I come home from work. But that's where it stops. So am I right? Wrong.
Maul
Let me know.
Ryan
Yeah, women are the worst.
Damaris
Yeah, you're not. You're not wrong at all. I know they say I know I am. Demir says women are always right, which is not true. But you're not wrong at all. You're doing what's best for you and what's best for your body. If she's feeling insecure because you getting finer and she doesn't like the way that she looked, then that's a her problem and she needs to work on that. You can. As long as you're being encouraging to her and loving her like you said that you are, which you probably don't even care if she lose weight. That's a her thing. Then you're doing everything right that you can. You should not stop working out because she hasn't gotten her ass up to do it. Now, if you want to go be super, super boyfriend, you can come up with some creative way to motivate her. But that's not your job and that's not on your plate. Nobody is going to make her lose weight but her. So she needs to get in the gym and do what she has to do or risk getting her snatched by one of them. Fine. At the gym. I don't know. I'm just saying if you're making it.
Ryan
Worse by that, sorry, but if you.
Damaris
That worried about him and him looking fine, that's motivation. My motivation is oh my God, my look mad good. Somebody might snatch him from me. Now I'm getting my ass up and hitting that treadmill, but that's just me. She ain't. She. She don't want it bad badly enough.
Ryan
And I feel like if roles were reversed, she would bring that up in an argument that she be at the gym looking great, and you just don't be doing women suck.
Maul
I mean, he. I mean, also, maybe he just need to find a way to kind of start. Maybe instead of going to the gym, start right there in the house or.
Ryan
Yeah. The time that they do their walks, maybe do something a bit more than walk, dude.
Maul
Bring the. Bring the work out to the crib. Do something in the crib.
Damaris
Shouldn't be on him.
Maul
No, I mean, but again, when you're married and this is your partner, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you recognize your partner's a little bit of a rut, maybe a little bit of a depression. It's your job to kind of, like, you know, ease them out of that, help them out of that, find their way again. Find their. Get their foot up, their foot underneath them again. Maybe she don't want to go to the gym. Maybe that's a stretch. So bring the gym to her. Work out in the house, do some things around the house. Then that'll go into, you know, let's go for a walk. What are they doing? Walking. Let's go for a run now. Maybe get the Apple watches and kind of, like, challenge each other weekly.
Ryan
That's good.
Maul
You know, things like that. Kind of, you know, just to let her know, like, yo, listen, like, you know, you're my wife. I love you. You look great. I'm still attracted to you. But, like, let's challenge ourselves to, like, you know, transition and transform into, you know, get into the best shape that we've probably ever been in our lives. Like, I think that's, you know, it's ways to do it. Maybe it's getting her to actually go to the gym is too much of a jump right now, so. So reel it in a little bit. Start working out at home.
Ryan
Yeah, there's a bunch of apps and shit on YouTube. Like, you just pull that shit up on the TV and start there. Like, just got back from work. Let's take 15, 20 minutes at most and do this because the gym can.
Maul
Be intimidating to some people. Like, they go, yeah, for sure. And, you know, it's just like, everybody else is in shape, and people, you know, are lifting heavier weights and doing more reps and not breathing as heavy as you are and things like that. So, yeah, so, you know, you starting a house where nobody can see you, nobody can see you struggling. Nobody can see how you look right now. Nobody. And then, you know, you open it up to getting into the gym and changing it. Then do maybe do some fun workouts with her. Like, maybe go to, like, you know, a cool, you know, hot yoga class. Go to some, you know, cycling classes. You know, they. They try to make the workout experience fun. Go to some cool Pilates with her or something like that. Just make it something that, you know, you think your woman would be interested in as well and not just feel like she's going to the gym to work out because she's out of shape. Make it feel like a fun activity, but it's also, you know, strenuous on the body.
Damaris
If you have the extra funds. If you have it. I know most people just don't. But if you have the extra funds, get her a personal trainer as a gift.
Maul
See? Hold on, Tomo.
Ryan
What?
Maul
A woman personal trainer?
Damaris
Ma, come on, bro. It doesn't matter. A good.
Maul
It does matter.
Ryan
Why does it matter?
Maul
Because these personal trainers are nasty.
Ryan
I'm not against you. There. Yes, there are a lot of weird, pervy personal trainers.
Maul
Yeah. Woman.
Damaris
Oh, nobody.
Ryan
But not every male personal trainer is a pervert.
Maul
I'm not saying every. I'm saying there's.
Ryan
There's definitely.
Damaris
I don't even want to say there's.
Ryan
There's the photographers and the. The personal trainers. Yes. There's a lot of pervs in that business.
Maul
Get a female trainer. Women know women. They know each other's bodies. They know what they're feeling. They know.
Damaris
Yes, but women don't. From my experience, I've had both. The man was better for me because he was stricter. He was just stricter. And probably because of my relationship with my father, I probably respected his dynamic a little bit more when he would tell me to do stuff like, a girl ain't about to yell at me. I just can't. You ain't about to yell at me. Are you talking to. But, like, when men yell at me, it's like, all right, I hear you. I'll do whatever you're saying.
Ryan
That's dark. That's from Mr. Fred.
Damaris
I feel like that's dark. I just wasn't. I was taught to respect male authority.
Maul
Were you?
Damaris
I was not yours. But like, I'm paying you.
Ryan
I'm actually.
Maul
I'm actually putting money in your.
Ryan
You're paying the trainer?
Maul
Like, what the fuck? All right. It is what it is.
Damaris
No, but I'm just. I feel like women will sometimes having a male and also with some women that I've seen, I had a friend that had a personal trainer. It can be, you are looking at her body and wondering why her body isn't doing why your body isn't doing what her body is doing. And it can be a distraction. You can feel, you know, you sitting next to some fine ass woman.
Maul
But that's insecurity. Ain't no training gonna help that.
Damaris
But she's insecure.
Ryan
Yeah.
Maul
So that's why you get a woman training. You're like, girl, I want my body. All right, so then put the potato salad down.
Damaris
Damn, I love potatoes.
Maul
See, that's what I'm saying. But that's why your striations ain't showing. Put the potato salad.
Damaris
The muscles right here, like striations is.
Maul
You know, when it's cut, when it's, oh, definition. I'm saying get your striations right.
Damaris
Okay.
Ryan
You just give her pecs when you went like that.
Damaris
Get her a good personal trainer. If she's more comfortable with a woman, that's fine. Get her a good personal trainer if you have the extra funds for it. I think that that's a good, like, you know, because sometimes when your partner is motivating you, like, it's tougher because you don't feel like you. Like, if I'm supposed to meet my partner at the gym, I don't feel bad about canceling on them because it's my partner, we live together. It's like, I don't want to go. I don't want to go. If my partner is paying somebody to be at the gym and they're waiting for me to be there at 8am it's more motivation to be like, I don't want to go. I don't want to go, but I have to go.
Ryan
I find that, well, not the opposite per se, but if I'm working out with a partner that keeps me more honest with everything, like, I can cancel myself. I just feel like I'm tired. But if my partner's like, we're going at this time, I would feel obligated to do it.
Damaris
Well, yeah, no, for sure. But I'm just talking about in comparison to the personal trainer, like a person, like, I can, I can guilt my. Like, I can be like, baby, I'm really sleepy. Have sex with him and go to sleep. And neither one of us will feel any guilt. If he's paying a personal trainer. It's like, I have to go.
Maul
Yeah, no, that's. And that's what he needs.
Ryan
You don't want to sleep with him.
Maul
Because you want to have sex tonight. We got to go to the gym.
Ryan
That's a form of manipulation and it's a great man.
Damaris
It will work on me.
Maul
Me.
Damaris
Yeah, but that's not how I will come in this looking like Tyra Banks.
Maul
Exactly. You want me to knock that? Let's get let's knock this workout out and come back in the house and knock headboard. You know what?
Ryan
Okay. What happens when you have sex with him and he still goes to the gym And I just saw a viral video of a girl with her whole ass cheeks out at the gym.
Damaris
If I'm worried about you cheating.
Ryan
Not with tights on like she had her ass out. It was damn near a thong and doing that that people trying to go viral on the Internet.
Damaris
Yeah.
Ryan
Which I think and mind you, she looked good. But that like what the are you doing? Nobody wants to see that in the gym.
Damaris
I mean people want to see it.
Ryan
No, I don't. I don't.
Damaris
I never.
Ryan
I do know I do.
Damaris
Oh no.
Ryan
Same same with the Lizzo convo at the Lakers game. Keep your ass cheeks out of public.
Maul
Well, yes, at the Lakers game.
Ryan
Yes, at the gym too. I don't care what you your cheeks look good. Get all the way at the gym like but put something on.
Maul
Yeah but what if she's a physique.
Damaris
Be out there like oh, ass.
Maul
Yeah. What if she's a physique model and she has to see make sure everything is looking she about to go.
Ryan
No, she was on live like doing squats with her whole ass out. This is a you have Planet Fitness.
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Podcast Summary: Best of Rory & MAL: Week of 6/9
Podcast Information:
In this episode of New Rory & MAL, hosts Rory and Mal dive into a variety of topics ranging from the latest in hip-hop to the evolving role of artificial intelligence in the music industry. The conversation is lively, insightful, and peppered with humor, making it both engaging and informative for listeners.
The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about Lil Wayne's highly anticipated 'Carter 6' album. Ryan expresses initial skepticism about the project's quality, reflecting the widespread criticism on social media.
Mal counters by defending Lil Wayne's legacy, emphasizing that even great artists have off moments.
The hosts delve deeper into Lil Wayne's standing in the hip-hop community, comparing him to legends like Nas and Jay-Z. While Rory questions whether Lil Wayne deserves to be in the "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) conversation, Mal supports the notion, highlighting Wayne's prolific output and influence.
Ryan:
"But I don't think he's better than over Nas. But he's there. What?"
(05:26)
Mal:
"He's one of my favorites, personal favorites, for sure. When you start talking about the greatest of all time, the goat conversation, well, I mean, that's."
(05:10)
They also discuss the pressures of maintaining artistic excellence and how Lil Wayne's frequent releases might impact perceptions of his work.
Transitioning from music, the hosts engage in a playful speed dating skit, showcasing their chemistry and comedic timing. Damaris initiates the mock speed dating, leading to humorous interactions and exaggerated dating scenarios.
Damaris:
"I'm gonna find the ones with bad bitches."
(12:31)
Ryan:
"You too fine to be here. I ain't never seen you around here before."
(18:44)
This segment provides a lighthearted break from the more intense discussions, highlighting the hosts' ability to entertain while discussing serious topics.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the controversial introduction of Tata, an AI-powered music artist developed in partnership with Timbaland. Rory and Mal express concerns about the implications of AI in creativity and the music industry.
Ryan:
"Timberland announced that he has his new AI artist partnered with Stage Zero, [...] and he's introducing Tata. That is a living, learning music artist."
(23:20)
Mal:
"We're taking the soul out of musicianship. We're taking the soul out of artistry. Like, if we're just going to use a program to create a song, it's like, I just don't."
(28:29)
They debate the ethical considerations, including the potential loss of human touch in music production and the fairness towards original artists whose work might be used to train AI models.
Towards the latter part of the episode, the hosts address listener voicemails offering relationship advice. A particular voicemail discusses the tension arising when one partner focuses intensely on personal fitness while the other feels neglected.
Damaris provides thoughtful advice, encouraging the listener to continue personal growth while supporting their partner's feelings.
Mal adds strategies for couples to motivate each other positively without creating resentment.
The discussion emphasizes the balance between personal development and relationship harmony.
The episode wraps up with the hosts reflecting on the topics discussed, reinforcing their perspectives on maintaining artistic integrity in the age of AI and fostering healthy relationships amidst personal growth challenges. Their dynamic interaction ensures that listeners are left both entertained and enlightened.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Ryan on Carter 6:
"It's not as fucking bad as y' all made this out to be on the timeline."
(04:00)
Mal on Lil Wayne's Legacy:
"Shit is not a fair what people are doing. Wayne is still one of the goats."
(09:05)
Damaris on Speed Dating:
"Me and Ma gonna go speed dating and find some hoes."
(12:25)
Ryan on AI Artist Tata:
"This is a made up person. They said she's living and breathing. No, she's not."
(24:07)
Damaris on Relationship Advice:
"Nobody is going to make her lose weight but her."
(65:35)
Key Takeaways:
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing listeners with a clear overview of the key discussions and insights shared by Rory and Mal.