Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 9/22

Summary

New Rory & MAL: "Best of Rory & Mal - Week of 9/22"

Date: September 28, 2025
Podcast: New Rory & Mal
Episode: Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 9/22
Hosts: Rory, Mal (Party), Grok

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Overview

This episode is a vibrant, discussion-heavy roundup of the week’s best, centered largely around Cardi B’s new album release and chart dominance. The crew dives deep with candid takes on the album’s highs and lows, debates about songwriting credits, and explores the competitive dynamics between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj. In classic New Rory & Mal fashion, there are tangents aplenty—touching on recent hip-hop beefs, the Gunna/Offset collab rumors, Kanye West’s new documentary, and even whether 21 Savage is truly a “British rapper.” Hilarity, hot takes, and authentic hip-hop analysis abound.

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Cardi B’s New Album: Rollout, Reception & The Bia Diss

Key Segment: [02:25–19:55]

Flawless Rollout & Initial Skepticism

• The hosts reflect on their initial doubts about Cardi’s album promo, only to admit they were proven wrong.
  • Grok (on rollout): “I was worried that the rollout felt a little rushed…But I do—what a flawless, fudgeing rollout that they did. I thought the rollout was incredible for the time that they had.” [03:02]
  • Party: “They smoked it…Atlantic, Cardi. This was an incredible rollout. You guys did a great, great job.” [03:20]

Tracks That Fit (Or Don’t)

• The crew debates whether monster singles “Up” and “WAP” belonged on the album.
  • Party: “Let’s just be real…The album is dope without those records.” [03:37]
  • Rory: “She’s already addressed that. Those are two of her biggest songs and they need somewhere to live.” [03:44]

Songwriting, Party’s Pen, & Disses

• Extended conversation about Party (Partisan Fontaine)’s songwriting fingerprints on the project—especially “Pretty and Petty” (widely read as a Bia diss).
  • Party: “I can hear the flow, I can hear it, like, I can almost hear him, his sample track…then her going in, laying.” [05:50]
  • Rory: “That chorus does give Party. I can’t even lie.” [07:13]
  • Grok: “He’s credited on every single song and I’m halfway through.” [07:18]

The Bia & JT Disses: Memorable Bars

• The hosts dissect wild, funny disses aimed at Bia and JT:
  • Rory: “I love a diss that’s like a roasting session…you dirty ass bitch, go and change your pillowcase. That’s Party. Didn’t write that. That’s girl shit. Cardi said that. Change your pillowcase…” [08:08]
  • Party: “She said her breath stink. Party said diarrhea, Bia. That’s Partisan Fontaine.” [08:32]
  • Rory (on JT diss): “My nigga might cheat, but I don’t fuck him in the ass with dildos.” [09:12]

Standout Tracks & Artistic Growth

• The group notes album highlights and Cardi’s maturity.
  • Rory: “What I like about ‘Man of Your Word’ is that Cardi took accountability…maybe I wasn’t the person you needed me to be…That was very mature of her. You can see her growth…” [10:58–11:24]
  • “If you want the essence of the album, I would listen to ‘Safe,’ ‘Man of Your Word,’ ‘Principal’ (Janet sample), ‘On My Back’…‘Pretty and Petty,’ which is the Bia diss, and ‘Er Time’…” [19:10]

Is It In Heavy Rotation?

• Would the crew “live with” Cardi’s album?
  • Party: “Yeah, I like that album. I’m not gonna live with it, though…But she definitely did a good job with the album.” [16:09]
  • Grok: “If I’m in a car with women, of course I would [play it]. Me just, like, chilling, on my way to the office in the Holland Tunnel, no, I’m probably not going to throw this on.” [17:05]

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Cardi vs. Nicki: Is It Petty, or Is It Strategy?

Key Segment: [21:05–27:31]

• Discussion of Nicki Minaj’s strategic announcement for her upcoming album, with a release date dropped in the middle of Cardi’s rollout.

  • Grok: “She couldn’t let Cardi have any type of time and announced a date in March…Now you’re making her your peer rather than someone that you have claimed is below you.” [21:07–21:55]
  • Party (defending Nicki): “It’s just a date with a CD emoji…we get the pettiness…but it’s just a date. She didn’t say anything.” [22:46]

• On Competition and Impact:

  • Grok: “I just think it certifies Cardi even more. You got Nicki reacting about an album she’s going to put out at the end of March in 2026. It’s September of 2025…just ‘cause.” [23:20]
  • The group riffs on fan rivalries and the power of small gestures (“She just posted a date and that was it.” [25:51])

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Tangents, Pull-Ups & Hip-Hop Hot Takes

Kanye Documentary Review

Key Segment: [30:19–42:34]

• The crew reviews the new Kanye West documentary, noting its chaotic, raw depiction of Kanye post-meltdown.
  • Grok: “It did show Kanye in his own element more than we’ve ever seen…It’s Kanye West in a very—pause—raw form. I really enjoyed the document.” [32:01]
  • Party: “There’s a difference between enjoying the doc and then enjoying the person that’s the lead of the doc, right?” [32:45]
  • The documentary’s ethical questions are debated—should you support it if Kanye isn’t a willing participant?
    • “If it’s entertaining to me, I’ll go see it…He doesn’t—I've seen him hop on the backs of other people’s tragedy…so I don’t care, honestly.” —Rory [41:51]

Gunna & Offset Collab Rumors

Key Segment: [42:39–48:17]

• Rumors about Gunna & Offset teaming up for a project spark speculation on Atlanta rap alliances.

  • Grok: “This felt like sides have been picked in Atlanta, and when they ended up on this side, they was like, alright, we might as well do an album together then.” [43:00]
  • Is the classic Migos lineup gone for good? “Are they never making music together again? Like, is it completely over for them?” —Party [44:15]
  • “I don’t exactly blame them…no matter what they make, all people are going to talk about is something’s going to be missing—Takeoff is missing…” —Rory [45:58]

• “Is Gunna the best artist out of Atlanta right now?”

  • Personal picks: “I would put JID in my personal opinion, but objective? Yes, Gunna would definitely [be at the top].” —Grok [48:22]
  • Rory: “21 Savage smoke all them.” [48:43]

Hilarious Debate: Is 21 Savage a British Rapper?

Key Segment: [49:16–52:54]

• The hosts spiral into a heated and comedic debate about whether 21 Savage is a “British rapper.”
  • Party: “He is not a British rapper, man. What are we talk—” [50:16]
  • Rory: “He’s British and he’s a rapper. He is. He’s not an American rapper. He’s British.” [50:20]
  • Grok: “His passport does say the UK, nigga.” [50:27]
  • They even compare it to J. Cole’s German birth: “He was born at a US army base…He’s American.” —Rory [51:15]
  • Party: “Y’all are fucking crazy…He moved to Atlanta at the age of seven. He’s not a British rapper. What are we talking about?” [52:10]

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Notable Quotes & Moments by Timestamp

• On Cardi’s rollouts: "What a flawless, fudgeing rollout that they did. I thought the rollout was incredible for the time that they had.” —Grok [03:02]
• On writing credits: “I can hear the flow…like, I know that's not Cardi, that’s Party.” —Party [06:40]
• On diss bars: “You dirty ass bitch, change your pillowcase…when she said diarrhea...that’s girl shit. Cardi said that.” —Rory [08:08]
• On Nicki’s date drop: “You got Nicki reacting about an album she’s going to put out at the end of March in 2026…just putting a date, just ’cause.” —Grok [23:26]
• On Kanye in the doc: “That's Kanye West in a very—pause—raw form. I really enjoyed the document.” —Grok [32:01]
• On Atlanta alliances: “This felt like sides have been picked in Atlanta…we might as well do an album together then.” —Grok [43:00]
• On the ‘British rapper’ debate: “He’s not a British rapper, man, what are we talking about?” —Party [50:16]

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Summary Takeaways

• The pod’s main event is Cardi B’s high-stakes return to album mode—her personal growth, Partisan Fontaine’s writing influence, and the bruising, hilarious disses riding viral momentum.
• The hosts authentically question what makes for great album construction, the nature of industry “petty,” and why threats (veiled or otherwise) matter in hip-hop rollouts.
• There’s a wry, knowing energy throughout discussions of Atlanta rap alliances, Kanye’s career, and even the bureaucratic absurdity of “British rapper” as an identity.
• The crew manages to simultaneously entertain, educate, and keep it real—with big laughs and sharp cultural commentary.

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For new listeners:
Expect unscripted, insightful, and often hysterical debate on music and culture—with no allegiance but to what genuinely moves the needle. If you want a fast catch-up on hip-hop’s present, this episode delivers.

Transcript

[Rory]

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[Grok]

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[Rory]

I didn't think you would be happy to see me this week.

[Party]

Why? Why wouldn't I be happy to see you?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Party]

I'm always happy to see you.

[Rory]

I like when I gotta make a eat his words.

[Party]

What words would I be? Is.

[Grok]

Oh, I'm at the edge of my seat. Yeah, I'm starving.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Party]

All right, let's get right to it. What words do I gotta eat? I got it. But I need a napkin. What's up?

[Rory]

Yeah, was hating on the Bronx baddie. The bodake la bodega baddie was hating.

[Party]

Who, me? When I was hating last. Last week, I said, I got a feeling the album is gonna be dope. Did I not say that?

[Rory]

I don't. I don't remember them words, but I. Okay, maybe that's the problem.

[Party]

No, no, that's the problem. You never. You never remember that part. But you remember when somebody talking shit now remember me saying that. I said, y' all got a feeling that Cardi's album is going to be dope.

[Grok]

Well, I will start by eating some of my words. I was worried that the rollout felt a little rushed. Even by Cardi's words, the artwork outside, it was just like, all right, this feels a little weird, but I do. What a flawless, fudgeing rollout that they did. I thought the rollout was incredible for the time that they had.

[Party]

Oh, yeah, the rollout was.

[Grok]

They smoked it. I mean, so I eat my words. And saying this feels rushed. I don't really know. Like, is she on the same page as the label? They smoked this entire rollout. So I will start by saying I eat my words. This was Atlantic, Cardi. This was an incredible rollout. You guys did a great, great job.

[Party]

Can I. On what you saying, though?

[Grok]

Absolutely.

[Party]

It's songs in there that don't up and wop don't need to be on this album. Let's just be real. Like, the album is good. The album is dope without those records.

[Rory]

She's already. She's already addressed that. Those are two of her biggest songs and they need somewhere to live and.

[Party]

No, no, no, no, no. We. We know. Okay? We know what that's about. I'm just saying. And listening to the music. I don't care about numbers and the game. I don't care about that part of it. Just listening to the music. I feel like it was enough good songs on this project to where those two didn't even need to be there.

[Grok]

Okay, I know you don't care about the numbers, but it is a stat to go platinum within the first hour, which I need to know.

[Rory]

I don't even think.

[Grok]

Don't do what Jay Z did.

[Party]

That's like averaging the most triple doubles on Halloween. Who cares about that? Who cares about these? Is it an important game on Halloween nobody cares about? Is the music good? Yes. This Carti album is good. I agree.

[Rory]

Oh, so, you know, thank you. I do wanna address that because at 12:05, the group chat was going off and N was being funny in the group chat. I just left. I hid my notifications and I'm not.

[Grok]

I don't like you doing that. Cause people are actually gonna believe you.

[Party]

Who's being funny?

[Rory]

All right.

[Grok]

I didn't say a word in that. Cut it out.

[Rory]

Cut it out. Cut it out, cut it out. Nah, we cut.

[Party]

Oh, no, don't get it twisted. I started listening at when it came out, and then when I heard Cardi. A, B, C, D, E, F, G. These Bitches Can't Fuck With Me. I turned it off. I didn't go back to the album until Sunday. After I heard abcdefg. These Bitches Can't Fuck With Me. I was like, all right.

[Grok]

You know, well, that was an ode to Wayne.

[Party]

I was like, I'm cool. I'm gonna go back to J elect for a second. Let me get, you know, my. My bars. Then once I got my bars, I was like, Sunday cleaning. I was like, all right, let me. Let me hear what Cardi did. She got some joints in there. There's some joints on that album. I ain't gonna lie. Cardi got some joints in there. We didn't have to wait seven years. Like, Car didn't have to make me wait seven years for this. But the music is. The music is dope. I can hear Parties pin.

[Rory]

Yo, he can't. You gotta throw some. Hey, gotta sprinkle some hate on there. Like black people do. Party.

[Party]

No, it's not. It's not hate. I could Party ate me up. Let's be real right there.

[Rory]

I don't think. I don't think Party wrote. I don't think Party wrote that. I don't think Party wrote that. I can hear some songs, but I don't think Party wrote that.

[Party]

We not doing that. I guarantee you. Party robots. I can hear the flow. I can hear it, like, I can almost hear him. His sample track. I can almost hear him, like, laying it down. And then her going in, laying.

[Rory]

Cardi put out a video. She's since deleted it, but put out a video of her. I don't know whether it was that.

[Party]

What is it? Pretty and Petty Beer. Don't even be a. Just stay where you at.

[Rory]

So listen, yo. So I was in bed now, mind you, I came out at 12. I went to San Gennaro with Alex. I was drunk toe up. So I woke up around, like, 12:30 and was like, oh, shit, the album out. Put a headphone in, hungover in my bed, laying down. And I'm just, like, bumping. I'm listening. Whatever I'm listening. Marking off what songs I like. And then I just hear like, name five B of songs. I said, oh, shit. I like, sat up in bed and was like, not a hidden B of Diss. Like, we ain't rolled that out. We didn't tell nobody that was coming. She just started catching strays.

[Party]

Okay? Like I said, Party is credited for writing on Pretty and Petty. I can hear it and it's okay. I don't give up. I'm not even here for that. The music is good, but. But Party got somebody. He got at being kind of crazy, though. He talking about being kind of crazy. You can hear. I can hear the flow, the cadence. I know Party's cadence. I can hear it. Like, I know that's not Cardi, that's Party.

[Rory]

I'm sure that Cardi.

[Party]

I'm not saying she didn't write on it. I'm not saying she didn't write on.

[Rory]

I'm like, let's clarify.

[Party]

I'm just saying certain bars, I can hear Partisan's flow. Like, that shit is when, you know, listen to certain pens. You know what it is?

[Rory]

I hear his flow on the. On the chorus that. That chorus does give Party. I can't even lie.

[Grok]

I'm halfway through the album. Just quickly. He's credited on every single song, and I'm halfway through.

[Party]

I could hear the pen and it's funny.

[Grok]

It's fine. I want anyone to think the music is.

[Party]

I don't give a music like, I don't care about the pen. The delivery was dope. The music is good. It's a good album. That's it. It ain't nothing. I think platinum in the first day week. I don't give a about that. That's industry shit. I don't care about that.

[Grok]

Again, I. I think, yeah, Party would be good at structuring the song. But we've discussed before, like, when Cardi says shit like, I like Balenciagas, the ones that look like socks. That's definitely something Cardi said in the studio. And Party just found a way to put it into a cadence. I'm sure anything she said about Bia, that was straight from Cardi's brain and how she felt about Bia.

[Rory]

First of all, that shit had me crying, laughing like this. I love a diss. That's like a roasting session. Like. And I don't have anything against bia, but I love a disse. That's a roasting session. Like, you know, you 30. How you 32 with acne on your face, you dirty ass bitch, going change your pillowcase. That's Party. Didn't write that. That's girl shit. Cardi said that. Change a pillowcase when she said diarrhea. Bea breath so stink you could smell.

[Party]

It before you see her.

[Rory]

How was fun? That's so.

[Party]

I feel like that is funny as f Now. That's party. And that's why Bia got smoked with Party Again.

[Grok]

I think that's Cardi saying that shit in the studio.

[Party]

Cardi said her breath stink. Party said diarrhea be. That's Partisan Fontaine. It's okay. We not tripping about none of that. I know what I'm saying.

[Grok]

We don't know that to be a fact.

[Party]

Ah, y' all need to. Right, Man. We really don't know.

[Rory]

I really.

[Grok]

It's on every song, so I'm not about to take anything away from Party. Cool. Cool. But I just think that's how it goes with with Cardi. Good album, cuz she's hilarious. Not. Let's not act like outside of love and hip hop her on whatever Instagram or what vine, whatever the was going on at that time. It was her being hilarious. No, on social media.

[Party]

She's a Bronx.

[Grok]

You don't think that you got to be able to come up with diarrhea beer because I definitely think she can. Matter of fact, I can see Cardi doing that before party doing that.

[Rory]

She said, you a big lap dog. Be a. Be a Labrador. Shit was so funny, bro. I laugh. I was in bed in tears, like, randomly. And then the smoke for jt. The smoke for JT where she said, my nigga might cheat, but I don't fuck him in the ass with dildos. My nigga might cheat on me.

[Party]

We didn't need to know that.

[Rory]

But at least I don't fuck him in the ass.

[Party]

Cardi wrote that. Party didn't write that shit. I hope that's not Partisan. I hope he wouldn't have that information, bro. I hope wouldn't have that information on his.

[Grok]

It's a non fictional.

[Rory]

I was like, yo, what the. But long story short, I really, really enjoy this album. Like, I enjoy it. That Janet Jackson project, Principal Sample.

[Party]

That should have been a single.

[Rory]

I should not.

[Party]

You could have kept that imaginary player joint that the project principle should have been. That's the single.

[Grok]

I'm sure that's going to be the focus in those shooter videos that was in that song. That's crazy, bro.

[Rory]

That song is.

[Party]

We didn't need hov. The whole thing. We didn't need that. I didn't need Imaginary record.

[Grok]

It was a mix.

[Rory]

Crazy. I like And I didn't think I would. I liked Imaginary Players. I like it way more in the flow of the album and that really, I like, I like it in the album.

[Party]

No, I still don't like it.

[Rory]

That's fine.

[Party]

But, but I do like the album, though.

[Rory]

I haven't turned that off, like, when I heard it.

[Party]

What's the, what's the album? What's the song where she. Well, probably the whole album, but what's the song where she getting that? A man of your word.

[Rory]

Oh, she went crazy.

[Party]

He killed Offset on that, too. Like, why Cardi tell. Why Cardi tell Party all that about Offset.

[Rory]

Stop.

[Party]

You know, they had like a sit down. They probably had breakfast, lunch together and was like, yo, so what's going on? And Party. He just taking, he, the stenographer, he taking all of that, and then he going back to the lab and he went and laid some of those bars down.

[Rory]

What I like about man of youf Word is that Cardi took accountability for the part that she may have played.

[Grok]

Yeah, I thought that was nice.

[Rory]

The dissolution, the dissolution of her marriage. Like, maybe I wasn't the person you needed to be. Maybe I was too focused on my music. I was too focused on this. I'm sorry. I, I want the best for you. Like, I, I, I think that that was very mature of her. Like, you can see her growth in the way that she thinks about things. I love that.

[Grok]

At, at 23, I would love my work more than I did. She. I get it. I like the accountability on it. Now, if you're Offset. Are you mad at Party?

[Party]

Yeah, he gotta see me.

[Grok]

Nah, he's at work.

[Party]

He gotta see me.

[Grok]

That's not personal. That's my. He gotta see me. I saw you do this.

[Party]

Don't write, don't write, don't see. That would have been the only cause. If I'm Offset, I'm going to the credits on that record just to see if he's credited for writing on it. He's credited for writing on that. So now he gotta tell me which bars he wrote. Either way, I got an issue. If I'm Offset, I gotta issue a party. That's how the game go. You in the car when somebody's shooting at me. When I see you in Target going to get deodorant, you think it's not lit?

[Grok]

Yeah, but I was hired to be in that car.

[Party]

Nah, I don't give a fuck. It's lit. If I catch you outside of that car that was in when they shot at me, you Gotta be expecting you went along for the ride.

[Grok]

What if it's not a car? What if you were the bus driver?

[Rory]

I'm not seeing.

[Grok]

Like, what. What if you're just. They came on your car and you just driving.

[Rory]

I'm not seeing him being credited on.

[Party]

You don't know his real name.

[Rory]

That's why I do know his real name. He's not credited on.

[Party]

Here on. On. On.

[Rory]

I'm man of your word.

[Grok]

Okay.

[Party]

He's not.

[Rory]

No.

[Party]

Okay.

[Rory]

Just went to the Apple Music credits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Grok]

I do think as someone that has obviously talked about her having ghostwriters, I do think. Well, not ghostwriters. Credited writers. I do.

[Party]

Credited writers.

[Grok]

Not. Not ghostwriters. Cardi does. Like. I've talked to people that worked with her. She does write. Like.

[Party]

No, I know she does.

[Grok]

I don't want.

[Party]

She.

[Grok]

Absolutely. I don't want to do that. And this has nothing to do with the past of this podcast and her or cleaning anything up. I. She writes. So we need to give her that credit as well in that regard. She could have wrote this entire thing for the man of my word. But you would think that because what party did with the Meg the Stallion.

[Rory]

Oh, please.

[Grok]

That's his bag. Like, he went nuts on that. That. That would be the person I would call to be like, yo, you need to help me write this diss record to my significant other.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I call Bryson.

[Grok]

Bryson would be good, too.

[Rory]

I still call Bryson. But yeah.

[Grok]

Long.

[Rory]

Long story short, the album is good. The. If I was to y' all are. People say I'm biased, so I'll. I'll give a critique just so that people know I am not biased. I genuinely like the album. It could have been shorter for me. And if it was going to be.

[Party]

Yeah, wopping up shouldn't have been on it.

[Rory]

It's not even those two.

[Grok]

You mean it is. You didn't.

[Party]

They're the last two on the album for a reason.

[Grok]

You didn't need Imaginary Players. Album release, Live edition.

[Party]

No, I didn't.

[Rory]

Not even. Not like, for example, so. And I know that it's not. I know that it's a me issue because the songs that I don't like, I've seen online people ranting and raving about them. I would have just rather had it replaced with the two singles or the two little teasers that she put out before the album came out. Like. Like the. Like what? Freestyle. But I know some of those samples might not have been able to get cleared, so that might not. That Might be why they're not on there. But there's a couple that I just don't need. But she has a wide array of fans that has to satisfy. I don't need the Lizzo record. I don't need the. The what's Spanish shorty? Selena Gomez record. I don't need those. But again, she has a fan base that those records are for you.

[Party]

Any Bodega Baddy.

[Rory]

I love Bodega Baddy.

[Party]

How you love bodega baddy but not pick it up?

[Rory]

I love bodega Baddy. You bugging.

[Party]

I'm bugging. I'm just saying. How do you love bodega Baddy but not pick it up?

[Rory]

Oh, my God. That going to go crazy uptown. I'm going knock all the hookah cos over with my ass. I'm gonna go crazy.

[Party]

Yeah, I just didn't.

[Grok]

I mean, that might be one of my. That might be my favorite on the back.

[Party]

That's your favorite song on the whole album.

[Grok]

I view this as what's going to make women have fun at parties. That's how I view cardi b music. That's gonna go nuts. That's how I view this. With that type of ear. I also kind of want, like, Tyler's rap album.

[Rory]

Yeah, Tyler was getting her off.

[Grok]

She's getting a little bars off on that.

[Rory]

Tyler got her bars off.

[Grok]

I was not expecting that. I was. I was hoping it wasn't going to be just the typical Afrobeats song so.

[Party]

You could live with this album, is what you're saying.

[Grok]

What do you mean, live?

[Party]

Like, are you gonna continue to play it and listen to it?

[Grok]

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

[Rory]

It's okay to say no. You don't listen to female rap. You don't. That's not what you listen to on your dating. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's okay to say no.

[Grok]

I'm going up so scared. Scared of what?

[Party]

Cardi Bel Khalise. That's what you scared of.

[Grok]

You have seen my. My conversations with her? No, direct. Direct. No, not scared at all.

[Party]

It's. This nigga's scared and that.

[Grok]

See, and when he said, this is why I don't like you guys misrepresenting things. Because now people are going to think that. And if you go through every message I've ever had, from voice note to message. No, I've never done.

[Party]

I don't want to go through that.

[Rory]

Well, yo, I'm cracking up.

[Grok]

I think he was there for one of them.

[Rory]

I think Rory does like the album, but he's not going to live with it. That's not. Y' all don't listen to female rap on a daily basis.

[Party]

Yeah, I like that album. I'm not. I'm not gonna live with it, though. Like, I'm not gonna play, but it's. I was. I. And then she did a good job. She definitely, like, did a good job with the album. I don't think we had to wait seven years for it, but then a lot has happened, and she addressed a lot of it.

[Rory]

I was gonna say this is not the album that she made seven years ago. There may be another.

[Party]

She definitely changed a bunch of joints on here, for sure. But again, you know, timing is everything, and she went through some things, and she made it made for, you know, good content. It made for good. Good lyrics and things like that. So she did what she had to do. I'm not mad at it. Good project. She didn't. She didn't disappoint me. I won't say I can't speak for anybody else, but she didn't disappoint me with this.

[Grok]

What do you mean by live? It doesn't necessarily have to be a party thing. I'm just. No, I'm just curious what that. What that means.

[Party]

You're not playing bodega baddie in the crib in the car by myself. Yeah.

[Grok]

No, I'm not.

[Party]

Okay.

[Grok]

Not. No way. But, like, I'm driving up to a. I'm going upstate to a wedding this weekend with people. There's going to be women in the. Like, I. I'll definitely put this on.

[Party]

Like, bodega baddie.

[Grok]

I'll put the whole album on. If I'm in a car with women. Of course I would. Me just, like, chilling, like, now, you know, on my way to this office in the Holland Tunnel. No, I'm not. I'm probably not gonna throw this off.

[Party]

Setting the vibes with the women, though.

[Grok]

So I'm not known for that. I'm known for ruining this.

[Rory]

Yeah. Literally. Literally. If I had to get.

[Grok]

For people.

[Party]

Because we need that principle. Yo, we need that. We need that video, though.

[Grok]

Yeah.

[Party]

Like, what's up? Like, why you give us Imaginary? That's the single.

[Rory]

But. But what they did.

[Party]

Why they. Why they gave us Imaginary? That's the single.

[Rory]

Well. Well, the. The single that led rollout. Well, led. The album release was Safe by Kaylani, which I do think should have been a single, right?

[Grok]

Yeah, it's a great.

[Rory]

It's one of the standouts for the album, the video. They were very cute in the video. On her acting bag, she got shot and killed. Like, it's a very interesting and it's a good video. So I would say that the standouts for the album, for people who are not crazy.

[Party]

What y' all think the video smell like, though?

[Grok]

Lavender.

[Party]

It's a lot of silk, right? Silk. Lavender. Got to be lavender when you see silk.

[Grok]

Absolutely.

[Party]

Right. Yes. I know that set smell great.

[Grok]

But I could also see, you know, with the post promotion being so important now that they may be trying to book Janet for the video. I'm not saying that could happen, but I could see, like, all right, let's go with the Kehlani one. We can shoot the video. It'll go out the week of. That buys us some time to try to lock down Janet to make this the following single.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Grok]

Cause either way, that joint is gonna be a focus track for the next few weeks.

[Rory]

I will hope so.

[Grok]

Like, that record is fire. If you could get Janet, like, even Janet as a cameo.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Grok]

That says no.

[Party]

You need more than the cameo that's gonna cost.

[Grok]

But if all you could get is.

[Party]

A cameo, cost too much to get Ms. Jackson to move around for a cameo, you might as well get a full. You might as well get a curse like that.

[Grok]

That's a lot to get somebody.

[Party]

Janet gotta rehearse. Ms. Jackson. You got Ms. Jackson twisted.

[Grok]

I think anybody would need to rehearse for a major video.

[Rory]

This. I think this Janet Jackson for the.

[Grok]

I think she just showed up to her videos.

[Party]

Well, it's not her video cameo. She knows the song.

[Grok]

She does. She's heard it before.

[Party]

Yeah, but she gotta rehearse. She ain't gotta rehearse nothing.

[Rory]

I think the standouts for the album, for people who are not Cardi fans and are not going to sit through an entire Cardi album. If you want the essence of the album, I would listen to Safe man of youf Word Principal. The Janet Sample. The other Janet sample on my back is good as fuck, too. That's a slower song.

[Party]

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[Grok]

All. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Than you. That right.

[Party]

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[Rory]

It's all good, pretty and petty, which is the Be a diss and er time. Er time should have come out in the summer. I'm so sad that we missed that. That was a summer record like that. That song goes crazy. But, yeah, Good job, Cardi. I'm so proud of you and so happy.

[Grok]

Congrats.

[Rory]

You did a great job, Cardi. You did a great job.

[Party]

Now, Cardi, do me a favor and curse Rory out some more in the DMs, please. Just because I love to see him panicking when he come in here. When you. When you think the brims is coming together.

[Grok]

I hate. I'm fine for the podcast to give this narrative. Yeah, that's. That's what happened.

[Party]

This. Scared of Belgalies.

[Rory]

I mean, there's. There's. There's.

[Grok]

Those could be some famous last words. That's all I'm saying.

[Party]

Why? All right, try me. What am I trying?

[Grok]

Okay.

[Party]

I don't got beef.

[Grok]

Her reach is. Is far.

[Party]

Mine's. This, too. You want to see? Look. Look where I'm sitting at. Look where my arm is at. See? More reach.

[Rory]

Rory, you got a ass. Arm spin.

[Grok]

Jesus Christ. What the did I do today?

[Party]

It's on Rory Day.

[Grok]

You. That's fine. Everybody telling right now.

[Rory]

Did M lift his leg? Y' all are so annoying.

[Grok]

No, Cardi wouldn't. Would like it better that way.

[Party]

What?

[Grok]

Yeah, her album review would just be on Roy Day.

[Party]

Yeah.

[Grok]

So, you know. Yeah, I'm here for it. Of course. Nikki stepped right in.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Grok]

She couldn't let Cardi have any type of time and announced a date in March, which is cool. I'm fine. I like when people don't. When people don't do the week of rollouts, especially superstars. I think it's cool to announce your album. 3, 27, 26. It's just like a. A convenient week. That's all I'm saying.

[Party]

Okay.

[Grok]

That's a. That's a wild time doing that.

[Party]

That's so wild.

[Rory]

That's a hell of a lead time.

[Party]

We talking about six months out.

[Grok]

I'm here to get killed by the bar.

[Party]

Yo, Mickey is crazy. Yo, Nikki is crazy here to get.

[Grok]

Killed by the barbs today. Back to sometimes I wish Nikki moved like the superstar that she was repeating myself once again.

[Party]

So you don't.

[Grok]

You don't need to do this. Even though Cardi is having a great week, Cardi has delivered. She's doing great. Why do you. Now you're making her your peer rather than someone that you have claimed is below you. Which I can say because I think Nicki Minaj is the greatest female rapper of all time. Accolades, skill, everything. Why do you need to announce this, the week of Cardi shit? Because now. Now you're putting her at an equal playing field, that you're trying to step on something when you don't need to do that.

[Party]

Yeah.

[Grok]

You're Nikki.

[Party]

Yeah.

[Grok]

Announce this in three weeks, four weeks. Announce this in January. Now, Cardi is right. If she would have tanked and you would have done this, I would have been like, all right, that's petty. I'd laugh. But now that Cardi's actually having a. A good weekend delivered, you look even crazier doing this to me.

[Party]

I mean, petty is petty.

[Grok]

Whatever.

[Party]

Listen, I understand what you're saying and I get it. And we understand the whole thing between Nikki and Cardi. Like, we know this, it's a thing, but it's not like, it's not that bad of a thing to do, though. Like, I get it. We understand the pettiness behind it, but it's like, it's just a date with a CD emoji like this. It's just.

[Grok]

Who knows?

[Party]

Yeah, she didn't say anything. She just put a date, like, you know what I'm saying? That's all. Yeah, but we get the pettiness because the UFOs come. We know the history behind it, but it's just like, it's petty. It's, it's, it's definitely a. It's definitely a little.

[Grok]

I just think it, it certifies Cardi even more.

[Party]

What do you mean?

[Grok]

You got Nikki reacting about an album she's going to put out at the end of March in 2026. It's September of 2025. And just putting a date, just. Cause.

[Party]

Yeah, it's just a date.

[Grok]

And I know again, this is why she told me to stick a broomstick up my ass. It's cool. I'm still sitting. I'm still sitting on business.

[Party]

Did you ever stick the broomstick?

[Grok]

I did not.

[Party]

Okay.

[Grok]

But I just. I don't know. I just think Nikki is. Is God tier and sometimes Cardi a list. Incredible. But still proving herself. She's on her second album. She's still proving herself. Why are you even. Why are you even addressing this?

[Party]

But she. But nah, she don't do that. She's not addressing anything.

[Grok]

Yes, she is.

[Party]

She literally just posted a date that's not addressing anything.

[Grok]

Okay. She was going to tweet that no matter what. Right?

[Party]

What I'm saying. I'm just saying she's not addressing anything. All she did was post a date.

[Grok]

If they want to rap back and forth, I don't think it matters. The tier of rappers when it comes to battling. That's cool. Whatever. But when it comes to, to this type of thing. Yes. Save it for your raps. Like, why are you even.

[Party]

She didn't say. She didn't say anything though. It's just a date. Okay, you making it seem like she said something and she, she posted a date and probably logged off after that.

[Grok]

Let's all, let's all just play dumb.

[Party]

No, I'm just saying I get. No, I'm recognizing the pettiness behind it.

[Grok]

Even Grok didn't agree.

[Party]

No, listen, I'm. I'm recognizing the petty. The petty energy behind it.

[Grok]

Like, can we scroll down what Grock thought it meant? Based on fan reactions and media reports think Minaj Post 32726 appears to tease a new album released. It sparked excitement with many speculating our next project after Pink Friday too. So cool. We can agree that this is an album probably. So why. Why this week?

[Party]

No, listen, I'm. I'm giving you that it's a. It's petty energy behind the vision board all year. You're saying she's feeding into this and all of this things. I am saying that she's no.

[Grok]

Confidently behind him.

[Party]

Petty energy 100%. But I'm not mad at that though. That's. That's. It's supposed to like, this is what we. That's like now if she went on there and she was on Cardi's album and all these other. Then it's like, damn, you ain't got to do all of that. But like just release another. A date for her on her next album. You know, it's like, okay, that's it. We understand the pettiness behind it, but it's like she's not saying anything else. She just posted a date and that was it.

[Grok]

But Nikki's career doesn't tick because of Cardi B.

[Party]

Of course it doesn't.

[Grok]

So why even. Nor does Mark.

[Party]

Because we know the nature of, you know, these two artists. Well, that too, but we know the nature of these two artists and you know, we understand the optics and things like that. But I'm not mad at this type of shit though. This is like, this can be good. This can be a good like thing. It's not negative. It's not like, you know, Nikki is not going off on. On a rant and shitting on anybody. It's just a date for an album release and that's it. Like, that's good. I think that type of energy is okay because we all know what it is. Like, oh shit. Cardi's album just dropped. Now she's letting us know when her next album dropping. We understand that optic of it, but it's not a negative thing. It doesn't have to be a negative thing.

[Grok]

To me, it's similar competitive thing to when your man's told the proud boys, stand down, but stand by. She just wanted to get all the barbs on the Internet to just get in a fucking frenzy while all this Cardi love was happening. She wanted to turn the algorithms just by simply tweeting that date. Maybe she wanted to get all the bars with all their pitchforks ready to go. Yo, Cardi's getting some love. I'm gonna tweet this just to activate y'.

[Rory]

All.

[Grok]

That's. That's all.

[Party]

But I think they was activated without that though.

[Grok]

I think she probably just threw a dart at a calendar and we was like, that's the date. I think it was 3.

[Party]

27, 26. We're dropping.

[Grok]

It went like that and was like, tweet that. Is that even a Friday?

[Party]

Yeah, it's Pink Friday fair. There you go. See, you didn't even know it was Pink Friday.

[Rory]

No worries now.

[Grok]

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[Grok]

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[Rory]

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[Grok]

Learn more@meaningful beauty.com outside of abandoning Amara, I did actually find some time to watch the bootleg version of the Kanye documentary somebody put up on YouTube. They filmed it, like, in the theater, and the quality was good enough to watch.

[Party]

Wait, this was released in theaters?

[Rory]

Yeah, I didn't know that.

[Grok]

That's the headline I saw and with the bootleg I saw. Yeah. Can you look that up?

[Party]

I don't like theaters only.

[Grok]

I don't think it's like, at the AMC in Times Square, but select theaters. Yeah. And the. The version I saw was somebody in the theater filming it. Like the old, like, Canal, Canal Street DVD tape type of thing.

[Party]

I didn't know that was just in there. That's. Actually, I might go see it now, now that I know, since theaters, that might give me an excuse to go to the movies.

[Grok]

It's. I mean, I guess it's what you think it is. I don't think there was anything on there that gave me a surprise to Kanye because, you know, we've seen so many clips and different sides of his personality, and I don't really know if it gave too much context to it, but it did show Kanye in his own element more than we've Ever seen.

[Party]

Even more than the genius documentary.

[Grok]

The genius documentary showed us Kanye west in the beginning of his career, his own environment.

[Party]

This is post meltdown, quote unquote.

[Grok]

Yeah. This is Kardashian era type.

[Rory]

This.

[Grok]

This is Calabasas. Yay. Into Wyoming. Yay.

[Party]

Okay.

[Grok]

In the same type of context, you're seeing him in his own environment in a very, very genuine way. Because sometimes you'd be like, yo, is Kanye doing this for paparazzi? Like, even I love when Cameron was like, kanye's not crazy. I just saw him. He's fine. I walked in there at the most sane human being, like, he's with y'. All. This showed it in a different light. I'm not saying it gave context. I don't even know if Kanye is fully behind this entire thing, but I guess I will applaud him by saying he didn't shy away or try to make himself look any better or add context to things, but it's Kanye west in a very. Pause. Raw form. I really enjoyed the document.

[Party]

It.

[Grok]

There's a difference between enjoying the doc and then enjoying the person. That's the lead of the doc, right? Because there's a lot of moments where, you know, he is a very destructive, not only to himself, but to the people around him. And I. I know we. We joke about what I had said about game and this and that, but Kanye has been diagnosed before, but we don't know what's accurate and what's not. You. You see that side of him for sure.

[Party]

So wait, he's not a part of this documentary at all.

[Rory]

He has to.

[Party]

Should we even be supporting this?

[Grok]

Like.

[Party]

Cause I'm ready to go to the theater and watch it. Like.

[Grok]

But I mean, if he was. Was. I mean, was he fully behind that as well? Because I remember. And, you know, Kanye would never go back on his word. I remember him saying something like bad about Cootie and them about that, even though he's in the doc, saying, yo, I got my man here that's been with me for 20 years, and we want to sell this doc. But I remember Kanye being upset when that came out. So I. I don't know, okay. Judging off what happened with Genius, but that's. I don't know if Kanye pulled out. Paul's pulled out of this entire thing, because the. The director. I think it was. Yes, Jules, that was saying that he has been around following Kanye forever. I don't know if this was something he took upon himself after he stopped working with Kanye the same way, you know, creative Control did. But I don't know. It's. It's. It's a lot where the. The. The genius one has redemption and, like, a real human aspect of it. This one has chaos. It makes you uncomfortable. It's a little bit scary. It gives you a lot of empathy for people that are around him and in some degrees, empathy for him as well. I'm not saying he's a terrible person, but he is very much destructive on purpose. It feels like. Like he's very lucid in what he's doing. I don't think he's having complete freakouts and meltdowns where he doesn't know what he's doing. I think he organized. Very, very lucid in what he's doing.

[Party]

Yeah, yeah.

[Grok]

But, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a lot. But then again, I mean, yeah, Kanye screaming at Kris Jenner. I don't, like, cosign how he did all that, but if you have a real American family, if they put a camera in your house, would it be much different?

[Party]

Yeah, I saw that clip of him. It's wrong. It's just a clip. So you kind of look at it like, all right, well, I looked at it like, I need more context. Like, what was this conversation? Why is Kanye screaming at Kris Jenner like this? But, yeah, that's the end. I saw, obviously, the Michael Che clip at snl when Kanye. Kanye had hosted SNL at that time, right?

[Grok]

Yeah, that was the time when he said, they bullied me for the red hat in that entire thing.

[Party]

Yeah.

[Grok]

But I mean, I respected what Michael Che was saying at that time, because there's only one black comedian when you're going on your rant. He was like, you wasn't talking about Leslie. Like. Like who? You was talking about me? Like, I think he had every right to do what he did.

[Party]

No, absolutely. Absolutely. And if you feel like somebody disrespected you and obviously you didn't have the opportunity to defend yourself or something like that, then especially if you feel like you had a com. Like a relationship with the person.

[Grok]

Yeah.

[Party]

You'd be like, yo, like, you know, I didn't see anything wrong with Michael Che. I'm not gonna say I don't like the word press, because press makes seem like.

[Grok]

I hate that too.

[Party]

Yeah. Like, don't.

[Grok]

We had a conversation. There was.

[Party]

Yeah, it's a conversation. Michael Che didn't press Kanye West. He had a conversation. He approached him about something. He said that he didn't like. It's not a. We don't have to say press. You know, it's not like he threatened to put hands on Kanye if he said it again. Like, that's a press. Like, yo, say, keep my name out your fucking mouth. That's a press. But Michael Che was just like, yo, that's fucked up, man. Like, I love you. Like, why would you, you know, put me out there like that or say that about, you know, me and, you know, it's like, I can't even do nothing about it. I gotta kinda just eat that. Like, that's fucked up. So I understood as a man. That's just. Man. Shit. As a man, you know, he's approached somebody that he knows he has a relationship with that he thought was cool with him, and, you know, just expressed that he didn't like something he said. But I didn't see anything wrong with that.

[Grok]

This was the. The very frustrating. Well, actually, I'm gonna say that because there's been a lot of frustrating Kanye west eras. This one was especially frustrating because this was around the time when he started with the MAGA stuff, and he was all about having dialogue. And then when someone like Van Lathan would try to have dialogue with him or somebody like Michael Che would try to have dialogue with him, everything he said before that, he would just go, but I love you. No, no, I'm. I'm replying to everything you just said. Yeah, in a very cold.

[Party]

I love you too. This doesn't take the level. Yeah, but what you just said was crazy.

[Grok]

I'm replying to it. Yeah, you keep saying you want to have dialogue. That's our problem. And then anytime I retort any point you have to say, like, but I love you. It's like, all right, so you're just being a hypocrite on this dialogue thing that you want to keep having. No, you want to spew out insane headlines that you've read from some of your Republican friends. And then when somebody is just like, what would you mean by that? I don't think it works that way. You go, wait, but I love you. Yeah, yeah, fair. What are we doing here? Like, you can't even have a conversation with somebody like that.

[Rory]

And some people are also very bad at having conversation that they deem confrontational. Like, you ever had a conversation with somebody who you could only have a deep conversation with through text? Because if you're talking to them, their response time, like, in text, it's almost like they're either nervous or they're not quick enough on their feet. Like, it gives you don't know how to defend your points without time.

[Party]

I think people have. People that have a hard time having conversations that can be deemed confrontational. I think it's most times because they know either they're wrong or they're lying.

[Grok]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Party]

Like, if you have a problem with having a conversation about something that, you know may come across as kind of like you're confronting an issue. Cause that's all it is. When they say confrontational.

[Rory]

Confrontational.

[Party]

It's just. I'm just confronting the issue at hand. People that have a hard time with that is they either lying or, you know, they know they were wrong and can't admit that they're wrong.

[Grok]

Yeah. And specifically.

[Party]

And I can see that being Kanye a lot. Like, you know, he knows he was in the moment. He probably doesn't mean any harm. But then as Michael Che is saying it, he's hearing it back. Like, yeah, that might have been unnecessary. Like, I didn't have to put that out there like that. But I do love you. And it's like, I get that part, but you still. This was live television.

[Grok]

Like, who's like, I work here.

[Party]

Yeah, Like. Like, you said some crazy shit. And it's just now I gotta deal with that. You leave this studio and don't have to ever come back. I have to be back here, like, just in a few days. Like, these people have to see me again.

[Grok]

But that was the first Kanye era where I felt like he jumped out the window without fully understanding or believing what he said. Like, if you go to any interviews, whether it be with Zane Lowe and he's talking about Polaroids and cameras and Lady Gaga and his music and the industry. Kanye will have crazy dialogue arguments with anyone. His Breakfast Club interview, everything he said at that point is really what happened for the next 10 years when they were trying to debate him on it. When he knows what he's talking about, Kanye is great. This was the first time when he linked up with, like, Candace and Nick Fuentes. I'm not saying he didn't believe what Candace was saying. He was just not well researched on anything. So the only thing he had was what Candace said as a talking head at one point. So when he would get someone to say something back, he wouldn't have a retort, because he did. He didn't research it. That's why you get that TMZ shit when Van says that. And he's just like, yo, I love you, bro. Let me give you a hug. And Candace keeps stepping in to answer the Questions. Because Kanye was not well read or well versed on any of those points.

[Party]

Right.

[Grok]

They were just controversial. So he said that. That's, to me, is where the Kanye really went left. And it wasn't because it was a Republican thing. It was because he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. Every time before that, whether you agreed with him or not, he knew what he was talking about. He was passionate. He actually believed that shit. This time, he's saying shit on SNL and has no idea what he's talking about. And Michael Che is like, I'm trying to have a conversation. Kanye can't have a conversation on that because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

[Party]

Yeah.

[Grok]

Later on, he did start to research that shit more and, like, form a real opinion. But at this time, he was hoping Candace would step in and just. Yeah. What she said.

[Party]

Yeah, yeah.

[Grok]

You just are doing this because it's controversial.

[Party]

Well, I don't know how I feel about supporting this now, going to the movies and paying to see it if.

[Rory]

You don't know he's involved. I thought niggas weren't supporting Kanye west anymore. I thought that that was like, the.

[Party]

Thing, like, nah, you bugging. I'm still waiting for my Hitler one.

[Grok]

Dude.

[Party]

I paid $25 for him. Joints fall is here. It's the first day of fall. What's up? I need my boots. Yeah. What you doing?

[Grok]

You want to go to the theaters in the booth?

[Party]

Yeah, I want to go to my. Go to see the doc with the Hitler ones on, man. What's up with you? Send me my shit. Yeah, but I'm not gonna say I don't support Kanye. Cause he's an artist, and obviously he releases things. We're gonna check it out. We're gonna see what he. He has to, you know, say or what he's giving us. So I guess that's supporting him. I'm just saying if this is a doc that he didn't want, say he didn't want this to come out. He didn't. He doesn't. I don't know how I feel about paying to go to the theater to see it.

[Rory]

See, I. I feel like that would be.

[Grok]

In that.

[Rory]

That's. You, like, being supportive of Kanye. Like, if Kanye was a good person, then I would maybe consider not spending my money for someone else to, you know, get money off his back. Like, not. And not supporting. Kanye's a good person, but now I don't know him personally, so let me say that from what I've seen, what I've been presented, the information that I have. No. And I. So I don't care about somebody like exploiting him. And I'm. If it's entertaining to me, I'll go see it. Like, that's just me being honest. He doesn't. I've seen him hop on the backs of other people's tragedy just because he knew that people were going to disagree about certain things and try to make money off it and be exploitive of it. So I don't care, honestly.

[Party]

Okay, I respect that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Party]

So Gun and Offset have a collab album.

[Rory]

Allegedly.

[Grok]

They announced it.

[Party]

Do we want that?

[Grok]

I don't know. Maybe.

[Party]

They make good music. They make good music.

[Grok]

Do you think this has to do with our theory before of everyone picking sides from down to the Thug to the QC to? I found that very specific of those two.

[Party]

Yes.

[Grok]

Also based off with Offset and Quavo and everything. Yeah, this. This felt like Sides have been picked in Atlanta and when they ended up on this side, they was like, all right, we might as well. Might as well do an album together then.

[Party]

My thing is.

[Grok]

But listen, after Gunna's last two albums, Offset had a crazy single this year. Project did.

[Party]

Okay, let's ask the. Let's ask the question.

[Grok]

This looks better than I think for most of Atlanta. If anyone's clowning this. These two have had a very good year as compared to the other side that's standing on quote unquote business.

[Party]

All right, but why not? Let's just ask the question that's in our face. What's up with Offsetting Quavo?

[Grok]

What about it?

[Party]

Like, what's up with them? Clearly they not with each other.

[Grok]

Yeah, that been.

[Rory]

But that was there. I think they're like kind of. They deaded the beef now, but they're not.

[Grok]

Then I think they were arguing backstage even after they deaded it for takeoffs.

[Party]

Yeah, but like, so, like, because this. Okay, I'm not mad. Listen. Gunna's been putting out dope music. Offset has been putting out good music. Like, I mean, Quavo, like, what's going on? Like, they. They. Are they never making music together again? Like, is it completely over for them?

[Grok]

I think that's definitely over. I think they came together even with the.

[Party]

So what does that mean?

[Grok]

Arguments backstage for the Takeoff Memorial Show? I just.

[Party]

Yeah, I think it's because now Cuevo can't do an album with Gunner. He can't do like a collab album.

[Grok]

But again, I think Sides have been Picked through other Atlanta politics behind the scenes, and they landed on. Oh, this person doesn't with you. This person. Oh, all the people we don't with are the same. I don't think they're like friends. Friends like that. I think they just all have common. I don't want to use the word enemies, but common friends that used to be friends, I guess.

[Party]

Music is in a weird place, man.

[Grok]

What a gift to Offset. And I'm not trying to take anything away from Offset. I want to make that very clear. But what a gift. Sometimes politics will put you in the right place, because I don't think this is ever happening unless the politics happen. I don't think Gun is sitting there going, can't wait to do an Offset album at the. In the place that Gunner is in right now. And again, Offset had an amazing single this year with jid. I think the project is cool. It did okay. But where Gunna is at right now, this would be a gift, and I think he's doing it out of spite to what happened behind the scenes with Politics and where Offset landed and where he landed.

[Party]

Now, I understand we could never replace Takeoff, right? But if Quavon, Offset was in a better place for them to have an album with Gunnar, we might get some crazy music out of that trio.

[Grok]

But, I mean, it was Takeoff and Quavo that went the other way and did two projects together and left Offset over here. That wouldn't even happen.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Grok]

God rest the dead if he was still alive.

[Rory]

Yeah, but Offset said he confirms that he speaks to Quavo.

[Party]

So Offsetting Quavo speaks to him, but not making no music with him.

[Rory]

Probably not.

[Grok]

No.

[Party]

That is.

[Rory]

But also. But that is fucking crazy. I don't exactly blame them, because no matter what they make, all people are going to talk about is something's going to be missing. Takeoff is missing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Even when Takeoff and Quavo did their shit, people would say that Offset is missing. You can't be a group of three and then now it's just two of y' all and people don't hear the difference. Like people hear the difference.

[Party]

Yeah, No, I understand what you're saying, but that's all I'm saying. If Quavo and Offset was in a better place.

[Rory]

Even if they were, it would be.

[Party]

I'm just saying them too. With an album with Gunna, it's still.

[Grok]

Yeah, I see. What demerit.

[Party]

We never ever trying to replace Take Off. Rest in peace.

[Rory]

We understand that that's What? It would.

[Grok]

It would feel.

[Rory]

It would feel weird. It would feel like Amigos album that they replaced, like, Takeoff with.

[Grok]

It would feel weird. Let's say Takeoff was still alive and Quavo and Takeoff continued their duo series and added Gunna. It would be weird because, like, well, Takeoff's right over here, so I get why that wouldn't happen. And also, they had a fallen out. And I'm sure. I'm speculating, but I'm sure that they probably came back together based off the murder of their family member. I think they're still building their relationship back because they even had to speak again because of a tragedy. Yeah, I don't know if they're just running to go make music again together. Like, no, we. We got cool because of this. We had to speak because of this. We weren't probably going to speak unless this happened. And God rest our family member, we're speaking now. You got to ease into that. That doesn't mean you can just out the gate start making music. And Quavo's been doing his shit. Offset obviously just put a project out. I think this is an Atlanta politic thing more than anything.

[Party]

Well, I mean.

[Rory]

I'm sorry. Gunna and Offset have made music together before, too.

[Grok]

No, I know that.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't. I don't think. I think.

[Grok]

I just don't know if he was running to, like, do an Offset album.

[Rory]

He might not run to. I don't. I get what you're saying, but I can see this happening. Even if the Atlanta politics shit had never happened, like, yes. Just because Gunna doesn't need it. I think he might want to do it just because he wants to do it. Him and Offset make good music together and they're friends. Like.

[Grok]

No. No, for sure. So I just think after the last two albums of Gunna's success, that the first thing in his mind, unless it was to prove a point to people behind the scenes, he wouldn't be doing this.

[Party]

Is Gunna the best artist out of Atlanta right now?

[Grok]

Are you talking about, like, my personal opinion or, like, checking boxes? I mean, I. I would put JIT in my personal opinion, but if you were to take being objective, yes. Gunna would definitely.

[Party]

You think JID makes better music than Gunner?

[Grok]

Me personally. But being objective, yes. Gunna is the best artist out of Atlanta.

[Rory]

I ain't gonna lie. 21 savage smoke, Autumn.

[Grok]

Well, 21 has been.

[Rory]

I'm not.

[Grok]

When was the last 21?

[Rory]

21 is so crazy.

[Grok]

You know, I actually, like, really with.

[Rory]

21, he's just not like I listen to 21 Saturdays about to start being active again because he just released a song.

[Grok]

21 is someone that. I'll stop what I'm doing to go listen to. Gonna. Admittedly is not. I'll listen to it because it's. We have a podcast, and it's what everyone is talking about. 21. I'll stop what I'm doing to go listen to 21 Savage.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Party]

Do they have British rapper? That's what they identify. 21 Savage.

[Grok]

He is, though.

[Party]

He's not a British rapper, bro. Like, what are we talking about?

[Rory]

He's British and he's a rapper.

[Party]

You just found out 21 Savage was British three. Three months ago.

[Rory]

No, not three months ago. Three years ago when we all found.

[Party]

Out together he's not a British rapper.

[Grok]

I mean, but he sort of is.

[Party]

No, he's not.

[Rory]

I don't mean.

[Grok]

They're shot in the UK Too. Like, my favorite song of last year.

[Party]

Skepta, is a British rapper.

[Grok]

Rapper. They from the same.

[Party]

They say just because a British rapper.

[Grok]

See, that's not fair.

[Rory]

That's not fair.

[Party]

Jay Huss is a British rapper.

[Rory]

That's not fair. Just because they rap with their. They rap with an accent. Doesn't make them more British than 21 Savage.

[Grok]

No, I was joking around. 21 Savage. Atlanta rapper.

[Rory]

Of course he's an Atlanta rapper, but he is British.

[Party]

I can't believe that's even on that. That's hilarious on that Wikipedia. British.

[Grok]

Born there and spent a lot of time there.

[Rory]

He's. Yeah, he is British. Like, you can't, like, take that from. He is.

[Party]

He is not a British rapper, man. What are we talk.

[Grok]

Welcome to Atlanta rappers.

[Rory]

I don't think they mean he's a British. They mean he's British and he's a rapper. He is. He's not an American rapper. He's British.

[Grok]

His passport does say the uk Nigga.

[Rory]

British. Like, ain't nothing.

[Party]

Like, y' all are fucking crazy. He moved to Atlanta at the age of seven. He's not a British rapper. What are we talking about?

[Rory]

You were born in Mexico.

[Party]

He's not a British rapper.

[Rory]

You were born in Mexico and you leave at 6. You're still Mexican. Like, it doesn't take away from you being Mexican.

[Grok]

Okay, okay. What do you consider jcole?

[Rory]

What? That's. We're talking about countries, not cities. That's.

[Grok]

What do you consider jcole?

[Rory]

He's a North Carolina rapper.

[Grok]

Can we pull up where jcole was born?

[Party]

Germany or some, right?

[Grok]

Nah, put the camera. Put the camera on her face.

[Rory]

I didn't know he was born. He was born out of U.S. frankfurt rapper. He was born at a U.S. army base. He's American.

[Party]

He was born at a US army base.

[Rory]

Frankfurt doesn't matter. Germany on the army base. That.

[Party]

What are you talking about, man?

[Rory]

He was born.

[Party]

No, that does nothing. It does mean that a US army base in Germany doesn't matter. He's not a US army base in California. A US army base in Germany.

[Rory]

He's not German.

[Grok]

He's a Frankfurt rapper. That's a Frank rapper right there.

[Party]

Yeah, go ahead, babe. Defend that baby.

[Rory]

Die, baby.

[Party]

Wait, so J. Cole is a German rapper?

[Grok]

No, 100% a German.

[Party]

So how he not a German rapper, but 21 Savage is a British rapper.

[Rory]

Anyway, I already explained to y'. All, he was born on an army base. He's American.

[Party]

An army base in Germany, though, doesn't matter.

[Rory]

If you're born on an army base. American army base, you're American. To two American parents, you're American. Meanwhile, that nigga had two British parents. His parents weren't American. They were British. And he was born.

[Grok]

I think his mom is from the U.S. his dad is from the U.S.

[Rory]

Well, she moved there.

[Grok]

So did all of us whites from Britain. We all British citizens.

[Party]

Yo, saying that 21 is a British rapper is hilarious, bro. That is crazy. But, yeah, probably 21 is a. He's. He's probably a better artist or. Damn gun have been putting out some good music, man.

[Grok]

My personal preference is 21, and it's not even close.

[Rory]

But yeah, 21 is my.

[Grok]

Would be my favorite as far as that era of Atlanta rappers. 21 is. Is. Is by far my favorite rapper or artist. Artist by far. Okay, but I mean, Gunner, the last two albums superseded my expectations.

[Party]

Like, he's been putting out a lot of good music, man.

[Grok]

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[Party]

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[Grok]

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[Party]

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[Rory]

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[Grok]

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[Party]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

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[Rory]

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