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Lola Brooke
The volume. No worrying now.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
All right, so before we was. We thought we were rolling, but we weren't. So now that we are rolling cold opening, I want to know because we.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Were arguing out the gate.
Lola Brooke
What?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, we weren't arguing. But I mean it felt like a.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Bit of an argument.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, I made a statement. I was saying, you know something about I don't think Lola. I look at. Like she's not one of the ghetto female MCs.
Lola Brooke
No. Tell them how you came up with it.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, you're one of the Republicans that think she's one of the good ones.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No. So Karrueche, Karrueche said that she channeled you for her role on a, on a. On a life. So I was saying, okay, I gotta see it. Because if she's acting ghetto, then what is she trying to say about Lola?
Lola Brooke
And what I said.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You said, so you think do I think that you're ghetto? And I said, no, I don't. I said, I don't think you're ghetto.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But why did you think that that's what she would channel?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I didn't think it was. I said if. That's why I said if.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No, you turned to that channel.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So then Lola says, you say you're not ghetto, you're ratchet.
Lola Brooke
No, I said I'm not ratchet.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, you're not ratchet. Okay, so what's the difference between ratchet and ghetto?
Lola Brooke
Ratchet is just. It's over the top. It's just tasteless. Ratchet is tasteless.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay.
Lola Brooke
Ghetto is. I'm from the hood. You still drink Kool Aid, Outspoken? Yeah, it's like I'm very much outspoken and I might say something that translates into being aggressive, but I don't mean no harm. I'm just from the trenches, so my environment may make me come off a little bold.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
When you say you from the trenches, that's like when rappers say they from the bottom. I like to talk to your parents and see what they think.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, I'm from the trenches.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
What's the trench?
Lola Brooke
What you mean?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Cuz I. We could shoot.
Lola Brooke
I come from the shelter. I'm from the trenches.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, you lived in the shelter?
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay, so that's the trenches.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, I come from the trenches.
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Host 1 (possibly Rory)
When you got to share a shower with the whole floor. Yeah, that's. That's the tr.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I'm from the trenches, which I'm sure they turn into like a luxury condominium in bed style now.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Affordable housing.
Lola Brooke
To go to the. My mom's had us in the Showtime. We had to go to the Bronx too. Like my. Take the train from Brooklyn to the Bronx and come back almost every single day.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So you were born in Brooklyn?
Lola Brooke
Yeah, born and raised.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Okay. I've seen her a lot about a.
Lola Brooke
Lot of stuff, but for her to get an apartment, she was in the shelter. And you know, most of the shelters, it's a lot of them in the Bronx.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, for sure. I wanted to live as a shelter not too far from Yankee Stadium.
Lola Brooke
That's exact. Yeah, that's what it. I think it was something called. Yeah, what she told me it was. It's some stadium. It's something.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, it is. So it's funny because it was a family shelter, so years ago, they used to have like the big. Big baseball on the. On the front. So as a kid, I didn't know it was a shelter. So every time I used to drive past that building, I used to tell my mom, I want to live there.
Jonathan Goldstein
Oh, my God.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
They were playing catch.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You know, as a kid, you see a big baseball on a building, you like it looks like they're having fun in there. Like, you know, you see a baseball, like they're playing baseball in there. But because it's so close to Yankee Stadium.
Lola Brooke
See, I didn't know all I was a baby when I was in the show, so you know what I'm saying? But I guess that's why I jacked the Bronx, too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, so you with the Bronx. I know. I like Lola. See, with the Bronx. I do.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I do think it's funny. In, like, the next 15 years, the kids that are going to be screaming, they from Nostrom, though, like, it's a whole new wave. It's gonna be.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It's a whole new wave coming in. We are joined today by rapper Brooklyn night Lola Brook.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Lola walked in here with her leather on, channeling Aaliyah with the bandana. That's Jodeci Aaliyah right there.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But that's what the. You know, the Kardashians are gon jack as the ghetto, probably by next week. They're the same.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
They look at the bandana like, they call that ghetto. See, Lifetime would call that ghetto.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No, they would. They would jack that ghetto and try to ghetto fabulous.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Right?
Lola Brooke
You see the bedazzle?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. The bedazzle makes it fabulous. But if that was just like, no bedazzle. Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It would have been gang banging.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I don't know. Some of these young kids, I think they made, like, bedazzle their Crip bandanas at this point. It's a whole new scary generation. Yeah. I don't think that's taken away from anything gang related.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Now, Lola, you played your new song for us Pain album out this Friday.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
What's the name of the album?
Lola Brooke
I Bet.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I Bet.
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
What inspired that? Who was the person that said something to you that then you had to reply with? I bet. And you said, you know what? This sums everything up.
Lola Brooke
I say it so much.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay.
Lola Brooke
It's to the point where my team is calling me to get things done, and I be irritated because it's a lie, and I'm like, I bet. Like, I bet. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay.
Lola Brooke
I always be like, I got it. So they be like, you said that you got it. I bet. I bet means no.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I bet is like, your last. Is that the last level of, like, don't ask me again. Cause if it's like, I got it. And they keep asking you, it's like, I bet what's after. I bet. Is it a fight?
Lola Brooke
But it's not just that. I bet could mean a lot of things. Like, I. It's like, I bet I'm on that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's the tone. Because I feel like, you good.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
The tone can depend on what's gonna happen.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Dead ass. Dead ass is one of those.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Can you give us. I bet it's like. Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Can you Give us the. The five different tones of I bet, and we could guess what happens after that.
Lola Brooke
See, that's. Now that's channeling my New York lingo. And off the top of my dome, I don't know, I just be like.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
All right, so Mal called you ghetto.
Lola Brooke
I bet I rock with it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay, that one's not going away. Yeah, that's not a. That's not too aggressive.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I'm not a guess. That's like, you say one more thing, and then it's like, all right, bet.
Lola Brooke
Now, if you be like, it's on site when I see why bet that's different.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Different tone.
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm expecting physical confrontation.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So now if you say you see the guy you're dating and he's liking too many pictures of a girl that you kind of know he likes, like, what level I bet is that?
Lola Brooke
I bet don't come back. You want to play.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Finally, Damaris has some backup.
Lola Brooke
This is what we doing. I bet you better say that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's not the I bet that scares me. It's the, oh, this is what we doing.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Because to me, her get back is going to be way worse than anything that I just did.
Lola Brooke
I say, yes, we like in photos.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
All right, I'm gonna fuck somebody else.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, but I don't like that. Because, see, that I bet is like, now I'm about to do some bullshit that you thought I was doing before, but now I'm about to do.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, now the bullshit starts every accusation you put on me. I bet we about to do that now.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, see, I don't like that.
Jonathan Goldstein
I bet the I bet would have heard you.
Lola Brooke
It's heard you, heard you.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Heard you. Yeah, but heard you get you choked, though.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yo Ma.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm just saying. I've seen it. I'm not going.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Of course not. You.
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Lola Brooke
I bet it is what it is.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Nah, this what we doing.
Lola Brooke
This is what we doing.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
We can't have y' all two in here at the same time.
Lola Brooke
I jack it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That's the problem.
Lola Brooke
I can rock with it.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I bet from the liking pictures is how you get the record. Pain. In my opinion, that's how you get there.
Lola Brooke
It's like, yeah, I bet no more pain.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Did that. Did that bullet have a name or that was just overall experiences from I bet or pain. Pain.
Lola Brooke
Pain.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Because I think you said, I bet and then you wrote pain.
Lola Brooke
Pain is. It could mean multiple things. It could be relationships, or it could be you saying, no more drama moving forward. You know what I'M saying, so everybody got to go through it, get through it to understand it. And that's what pain is. It's like, I'm not. I'm not scared to go through a little. You could pinch me, and I'mma pinch you back.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, yeah, but your pinch is a little different, though.
Lola Brooke
I pinch a little different?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. Whenever women decide to pinch back, it's. It's just different.
Lola Brooke
But see, I'm not a spite.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's a haymaker.
Lola Brooke
I don't. I'm not spiteful. Like, I don't do spiteful things. Like, my pinch is different. I'm just going on. Like, I'm not going. I don't get back. My get back is moving on.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I feel like people say that. I don't know if I believe it, though.
Lola Brooke
No, I'm. I'm living proof that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That you.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Hey, Lola said I'm living proof. Like, I moved the on.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
There's nobody in your past that could say that they did something foul, and then you. You double down with that energy.
Lola Brooke
They. They'd be like, yo, and if. And if I don't, like, 100% move on, I'm not the same person. Like, you know, it's like, all right, cool. Cause I do forgive. I forgive.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But the relationship will never be the same.
Lola Brooke
It won't be the same.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, men, our ego is so weird that, like, if I had a girl write a record, like, pain about me, I would be like, she still like me.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, yeah, of course.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's why I think things get fucked up with women writers that write amazing records about men. Because we take it as, oh, she's still thinking about me.
Lola Brooke
But see, that's the thing. Y' all feel like women are so emotional that everything is about y'. All.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, that's a fact.
Lola Brooke
Like, no, I just know how to go back into time and relive that emotion to make music. Because I'm an artist, but I'm not in that moment no more. Like, I'm cool.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
At what point did you realize that you wanted to, like, make music and start rapping? Like, how old were you?
Lola Brooke
Seven, eight.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Really? What's your first. Your earliest memories of hip hop?
Lola Brooke
50 Cent, Winkster music video.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Damn, I'm old.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, I was. I was 11, 10. When did that come out? 01. I was 11.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Now.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Wax was before that. I mean. Yeah, yeah, you're getting a little swollen.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
When they start saying wangster. That's like, I told y' all one time. I was listening to the radio. This, like, yo, we about to play a throwback, and then they played Biggie. I was like, well, yeah, this was a throwback.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I mean, yeah, it is 30 years ago. I was like, damn.
Lola Brooke
But what would that be for me, though?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Because your throwback.
Lola Brooke
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
You were seven years old. No, too then. Yeah, that's definitely.
Lola Brooke
No, but I'm saying, what would I call a Biggie record? It's not a. Like, what would that be for me?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, that's like. That's. That's like when they invented five.
Lola Brooke
That's, like, old.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's just old school.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, that's. That's when they invented the will for you, the 94. Yeah, that's like. Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, I know we keep going back to pain, but how did, like, the Mary influence? Because, yeah, if you were 7 years old in O2, like, Mary was something you had to go back to back.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
And shout out sample.
Lola Brooke
Not true. I was in elementary school. My mom's just playing new Mary. Mary been put. Yo, Mary been putting in no drama.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Was. Was probably when he was in middle school, Right.
Lola Brooke
I'm not too sure.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I would guess around that time.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yeah. How old are you, Lola?
Lola Brooke
31.
Jonathan Goldstein
Okay, so, yeah, middle school, probably around fifth grade.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Okay, so sixth grade. So with. With the Mary sample, was that something you had already set up and then reached out to Mary to get that cleared or.
Lola Brooke
Well, the sample. Was the sample in a production. The beat was already made. It was brought to me, like, do you rock with it?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Derek Milano brought it to me, and I was like, love, Derek. I could rock with it. And I did it. But it's like, Mary is a staple in a black household. So my mom's cooking to it, cleaning the Mary records, taking me school with Mary records, playing in the car. So Mary is part of our life, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's how my moms get through her pain. And it rubbed off on me.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
How's everything since. Don't play with it. Just navigating off the success of that. Because sometimes there's like a catch 22 when you. When you catch up, a big.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
When that came out 21.
Lola Brooke
It came out 2021.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
2021. And yeah, that's a blessing. And the. The record is timeless and incredible and a staple in New York. But did that kind of put an identity on you in some way to make it a little difficult to. To move outside of that record.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
As far as the sound?
Lola Brooke
Yeah, you. You compare.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Sometimes records are more successful than what your brand Was at the time. So it makes not be looked at as just that one song.
Lola Brooke
See what? Don't Play with it. Don't Play with it was me 100%. Like, I made that song off my energy. So Don't Play with it is my brand and to move on from it. I can't move on from Don't Play with it until I stamp it.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
And now I'm finally stamping that girl today. And it's been, what, the past two years?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah. So what happened in that two years that you feel like now you're finally stamping it?
Lola Brooke
Yo, being in this business, the music business, you will lose yourself. Like, real talk, you will lose. They don't talk about that. You lose yourself. You start overthinking. You don't know what to do when it's right in front of your face. It's you. It's who you are, and that's it. So I didn't channel it. I started overthinking. I started doubting myself because it took me so long to get here that I still was in disbelief that I. I made it.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
What was the. What was the moment, though, that changed that? No, what was the moment in that two years that you finally realized that, though? Because two years isn't that long, by the way. Some. It takes some artists 10 years to realize.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, I felt like two years was long. I was just thinking, God, that I'm still here today to catch up where I left off at, you know? But probably like the last eight, nine years. I mean. I mean, eight, eight to nine months. I really start living in my moment because I started to sit back, I put out a body of work. It was called Dennis Daughter. And I just sat back and looked on. What was the process? And I started being more grateful. Not saying that I wasn't, but I started celebrating myself more. I'm like, dang. Like, you was here, you was there, you put this out. You work with this person. Like, this is a great moment for you. You should live in it more.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
What was your biggest outside of, like, realizing that you can lose yourself in this industry? What was, like, the one thing that you learned and was like, oh, shit, okay. I had no idea that this was a part of it.
Lola Brooke
Having to mask it. Because nobody care. Like, nobody care.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
When you said. But when you say nobody cares, what do you mean?
Lola Brooke
Nobody cares about what?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
About you or.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, like the world in general. Like, of course you got people that love you. You know what I'm saying? Of course, of course. But in all Reality. No, nobody. Nobody really care because everybody got their own responsibilities. Everybody got their own problems. So it's not saying that they don't care because they don't care about you, right?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
But they don't have the time to care enough.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah. Everyone's dealing with their own. Nobody's here to save you.
Lola Brooke
Like, nobody's here to save you.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
They don't care when it matters to them, which they don't owe you anything to begin with.
Lola Brooke
They don't owe it to you, like, you know what I'm saying? They owe it to themselves as well as you owe it to yourself. So we gotta figure it out.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Did you have any. Cause me and Rory talk about it a lot. Personally. Do you have anybody that you couldn't wait to meet in the industry? And then you met them and it was just like. It just changed your perception about them. You don't have to name names, good or bad.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Doesn't have to be.
Lola Brooke
I'm somebody that bring energy. So I've been around people that don't really vibe out with a lot of people, and I make them laugh. Like. Like, for an example, Bryson. Bryson is very much to himself. But I. I done caught good conversations with him.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
You know what I'm saying? Like, he don't open up to a lot of people, and he gave me advice on things. So I feel like some people may have a bad experience with a certain artist, but you probably just wasn't their cup of tea.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
You know what I'm saying?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
A lot of people don't look at it like that, though. Like, maybe it was me. Like, maybe my personality.
Lola Brooke
Maybe it was too much, like, you know what I'm saying? Maybe you ain't do enough.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, we. I mean, we had Bryson up here a few weeks ago, and, you know, he was definitely talking about his experience in the music industry. What was that type of advice or conversation you had with him that was helpful?
Lola Brooke
He said to me, I'll never forget he brought me out at Rolling Loud in la, and he just was like, the moment you stop being yourself is over. And I was like, it just stuck with me. I was like, because right now I'm not feeling like myself. And that's when I was like, oh, it's 91 1.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Like, I gotta.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, I gotta.
Lola Brooke
I gotta knock out of it.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But what about it didn't feel like yourself? Did you feel like you were trying to play the role of whatever current female rapper?
Lola Brooke
Like, just people pleasing with any and everything. Just people pleasing. I've Never been that artist. Like, when people tell me, like, why are you so aggressive? I never kid why I kid now.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah. Are you saying behind the scenes or creatively as well?
Lola Brooke
In general. Life in general. Because for me, music is. I write music that relates to my lifestyle. So sometimes people be like, oh, some days you Shanice, and some days you Lola, Brooke. No, I'm legit. Both of those people. Every single day, I just turn it off and on throughout the day. You know what I'm saying?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So how has now being such a face that people know when they see you out, how has that affected your dating life? Whether it was for good or bad.
Lola Brooke
I was kind of cool with it, because it ain't. I mean, it's a little more hectic.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But your dating life is hectic.
Lola Brooke
Dating life?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Me for. Why would I have. Why would it be hectic for me?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, that's what I'm saying. Like, how has it affected.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Cause Mal thinks you're ghetto.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I don't think Lola's ghetto. I'm saying, how has. You know, being on TV and now everybody knows Lola. Brooke, when you're out moving around, how has that affected your dating life? If it has.
Lola Brooke
Oh, you say my dating. I thought you took them out in general.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, your dating life.
Lola Brooke
Oh, my dating life. Not. Don't change for me. I mean, of course you get. You be paranoid, like, yeah, who sent you? Like, yes. You know what I'm saying?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Meeting A is crazy.
Lola Brooke
For real, because people have bad intentions.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, yeah. No, for sure.
Lola Brooke
You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to wait it out. But I find I found some success in. In that. In that space.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So I like that. I found some success in that space. That's what I'm gonna start.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Leaves it open ended. Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. I found some success in the dating space. You know what I'm saying? When women ask my status, I found some success.
Lola Brooke
I found some success.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I like that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, I want to stay on dating, too. Too long, but Damaris has always said that guys from Queens is the worst, which I resent. But then she has terrible, terrible experience in Brooklyn. As far as the boroughs go, how would we rank. Rank men. As far as the five boroughs go? Starting with Staten island at five.
Lola Brooke
Okay, Staten Island.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Nola ain't never dated a.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
She's never been on the ferry.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, never.
Lola Brooke
I've been on the ferry.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
You've been the Statue of Liberty.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
How many times have you been?
Lola Brooke
Because we don't go to State.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Well, I go to State. I like Staten is the one one New Yorker that does.
Lola Brooke
I have family that moved there, but I think he moved there because he is in a relationship with a girl. So I think that's how. I think that's that because I was confused. Like, how did this go down?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Don't.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Staten Island.
Lola Brooke
No.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He built the bridge.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
He lived in Brooklyn. Yeah, that don't.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, but no, it wasn't. I wasn't out there. Like, I probably been out there. I could count on one hand how many times I've been out to Staten Island. I ain't gonna front.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I've been to Staten island twice in my life. I've been to London. I've been to London more than I've been to Staten island, which is.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, Nah. Yeah, I've been. I've been to Staten Island. Pray like three to five.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, that's the max. I feel like that's right there. That's the max. Like for the New Yorkers, two to three is the max. If you don't live there.
Lola Brooke
But I've been on the ferry probably once or twice.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But you don't go to Staten Island. We don't go to Staten Island.
Lola Brooke
No. I was a kid. I'm not.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It was against your will.
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
As an adult, you make the choice. I'm not going.
Lola Brooke
No. As an adult, I've never. I haven't been to Staten Island.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
So we have Staten island at number five, unfortunately.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Pretty much.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No disrespect to Staten Island, Maris, I know you got Staten island at five because you've never been there once. Number four, though.
Jonathan Goldstein
Where.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Where are we landing? Damaris, I'm looking at you first.
Lola Brooke
I'm not going front. I don't. The. The Bronx is kind of crazy.
Jonathan Goldstein
Them is horrible. Are we doing it's horrible one or is it.
Lola Brooke
But you know what, Let me say this. I feel like it might be good men in Staten island, but New York be treating them so crazy. I don't know why they be treating them like that. It's probably good men in there.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And.
Lola Brooke
And the girls don't know.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No, there's. There's. There's great people in Staten island, period. Once, you know, like get past the red state part of it, like once you get past the Italian community, like, it' a really great place.
Lola Brooke
They probably don't know, man.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
We don't know about Staten Island. If you took my phone and put me in Staten Island, I would not know how to get back to Manhattan.
Lola Brooke
That's true.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
All the girls love Method Man. Staten Island.
Lola Brooke
They do but that's.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
There could be a bunch of meths out there. We don't know.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
A bunch of.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
A bunch of people on method. People on fentanyl.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, it's a bunch of meth in Staten Island. All right, so you got the Bronx. All right, whatever. Number four.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, that makes sense because you're from the there.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Where? The Bronx.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah. So like, four. I get that, but you.
Lola Brooke
Listen, I. I don't know the order, but what I do know is Brooklyn is number one, so.
Jonathan Goldstein
Lola.
Lola Brooke
I don't know.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Thank you, baby. Somebody stepping in.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Somebody fight back.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I can't overstep with a woman. Her dating Brooklyn. Hold on.
Jonathan Goldstein
I just want to clarify that you are saying that Brooklyn has the best men. You saying that?
Lola Brooke
Yeah, cuz. My daddy is from Brooklyn.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay, babe, see, we can't argue with that. You know what? Once you say that, like, how do we. Arg.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
My dad was a dog.
Jonathan Goldstein
I love him. I love him.
Lola Brooke
But he wasn't. I ain't go front, but I'm saying I got my uncle. My. My uncles are good men, and they from Brooklyn. My uncles are real good men, for sure. They take. They take care of their family. All my uncles, I don't have. I don't got not one uncle that don't take care of his kids.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That's honorable.
Jonathan Goldstein
How many?
Lola Brooke
And my grandfathers and my uncle's got a lot of kids.
Jonathan Goldstein
I know. How many different baby mamas.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Dang.
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Lola Brooke
Come on, don't do.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Brooklyn's small.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
What am I, uncle.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It takes a village. It takes the whole parkway.
Lola Brooke
It's only one of my uncles that got more than one baby mother, but all my other uncles, one.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay, where's your family from originally? Like, what's your ethnicity? Are y' all Caribbean?
Lola Brooke
I'm a Yankee, man.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay, but your family. Your family is from New York as well.
Lola Brooke
Mm.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You give me trendy. You look like you be trendy.
Lola Brooke
Cause I'm from Brooklyn. Like, I was eating salt fish and baked kalu and porridge and for breakfast on. It was. That's regular for me.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, I think it's the head. It's the bandana too, though.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's.
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Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That's. That's. That's definitely.
Lola Brooke
Stop playing, man. Stop playing.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Like, how's Brooklyn changed musically? Obviously, gentrification, we don't need to speak about.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But music wise, based off when you popped to. I don't know, you know, 2001 was. Was a crazy difference in how the music changed.
Lola Brooke
For me.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
I don't feel like it changed. I just feel like the. The. The. It's been. Let me make sure I say this right.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Make sure you say it right. Because they gonna kill you if you know.
Lola Brooke
Right. I don't feel like it changed, but I feel like we don't get as knowledge. We don't get as knowledge as we.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I don't get acknowledged.
Lola Brooke
Brooklyn, we used to.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, better when it comes to New York. As opposed to what? Because I feel like.
Lola Brooke
Because I don't feel like it's Bronx and Brooklyn, really.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Period. Right.
Lola Brooke
I don't feel like it changed. Like, I feel like the music is. I feel like music in general is changing. So New York sound is trying to manage what is the New York sound?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Drill, But. Which isn't our sound, which isn't awesome, but it. But that would be the New York sound. That's what brought New York back, was the drill sound. Specifically in Bronx and Brooklyn.
Lola Brooke
That's true. Damn. Hold on.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And you were part of that, too. I mean, not to say all your stuff is drill, per se, but.
Lola Brooke
But see, I don't make drill music, but my energy is real tempo.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And some of your stuff has that. That drill knock or some of that same bass cadence.
Lola Brooke
Yes, The. The pocket.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Jonathan Goldstein
I feel like one of the reasons why I'm. Me personally, I like Lola's music when it comes to comparing the rest of rap is that Lola allows herself to be energetic like Lola. Like, I can drink Hennessy and hang out the window and listen to Lola's music while the rest of this music is like, I got high on drugs.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You can do what? Listen.
Jonathan Goldstein
The rest of this music is like, I gotta be high on drugs. This mad slow. It's mad like there's no energy. Energy hasn't, like, been the thing. Like, everybody just wants to sound like they have asleep when it comes to rap. And I think that that's a. That's the South's influence being up here. I don't like that. I like sounding hype. I want to sound hype. I want to listen to Lola. I want to listen to Meek. I want to, like, yell at niggas, like. And niggas not making. Yell at niggas.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You do want to yell at me.
Jonathan Goldstein
I do, but I like that. And I like energy.
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Jonathan Goldstein
Like, I like energy in my rap. Like. And I feel like that used to be New York's thing, but because the sleepy shit became the thing now everybody's trying to imitate Kids are on drugs.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, but I mean, that's that's the beauty of New York, that they could still take perks and still yell. I understood that with.
Lola Brooke
With half the drill, New York could get some. Somebody from New York could wake up and be on hot or from a hot shower.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Word.
Jonathan Goldstein
Like, no coffee, no nothing.
Lola Brooke
Straight hot shower. They on hots. I'm up. Like, I had to wake up today and. And get busy.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
And I'm mad.
Lola Brooke
And I'm mad because you was on.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
A train to go to work. I understand where this comes from.
Lola Brooke
Get what I'm saying? So we just. The energy is just naturally in us because we have to fight with so many different energies when we get outside.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, do you think Brooklyn has been divided musically the past five years? Like, post Covid? Do you feel like Brooklyn has not been what it used to? Because I even feel like when New York was the golden era and all that, of course it was divided because the boroughs, but Brooklyn was kind of the most unified. If you got down to it with your peers, how do you feel?
Lola Brooke
I feel like my peers been, like, from COVID though.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Postcode. Yeah. Post Covert. I'm saying 2020 to 2025.
Lola Brooke
I mean, can you blame it? We have to be six. Told us to be six.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
We couldn't collab. We had to be.
Lola Brooke
We couldn't collab. We had to be six feet from everything.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. And your record popped in that. In that time, like, in that moment.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, it did.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So, like. So did you feel like that? Kind of.
Lola Brooke
But, see, they had me in the house for too long. So when 2021 came, you was ready? Because in the video, they came at the end saying, yo, y' all gotta wrap this up, because it was curfew. I think at the time when I did the video.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
So it was just a rush of feeling like, I gotta get back outside. I miss outside. So that's where that energy came from.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Do you think, like, Latto and Young Miami were the right. In retrospect, the right remix to that, based off it being such a New York record?
Lola Brooke
Well, let's just say this. I reached out to New York artists for that record. It just didn't happen.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
You don't have to name names, but.
Lola Brooke
And it was nothing like most of the stories is nothing bad or anything like that, but I want people to know that I've reached out for a New York artist to be on that record.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But why didn't it happen? Because the record was. The record was hot.
Lola Brooke
I mean, I feel like those artists, when they. When they feel like they want to tell their story on why they tell y', all. But I don't feel like that's my place to tell it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, but it's your record. Yeah, but I want to know who turned that down? Like, who turned down a chance to jump on that record?
Lola Brooke
Some people didn't turn it down. One of the people, they. I should have put him on blast, but I ain't gonna do that. I ain't messy. But one of the other artists, they didn't turn it down because they didn't want to. They just. It just didn't happen. It just didn't happen.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay.
Lola Brooke
Things get topped up. People, you know, people got other things they gotta do too, or whatever. Not saying that they don't wanna be a part of it, but sometimes it just don't happen.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Anybody that you wanted to really work with and it fell through. Like, it didn't happen.
Lola Brooke
I didn't. I wasn't really tripping about the remix anyways.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No remix in general. I'm saying, is there any artist in general.
Lola Brooke
Oh, besides that.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. That you ever wanted to work with was like, damn, I gotta get a record with this person. And it looked like it was gonna happen. And then for whatever reason, it just. It fell through. It didn't happen.
Lola Brooke
Nah, it went. It fell through. It was Meek.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, you wanted that Meek feature.
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Meek would have made a lot of sense on that. Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Oh, you talking about foot. You. Wait, you talking about. You talking about in general outside of music? Not directly.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Don't play with. I think Meek would have went crazy on that, but.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, Meek would have went crazy.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
You don't think that could still happen, though, with Meek for.
Lola Brooke
In general?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
In general.
Lola Brooke
Yeah. Okay. We got like three songs in right now.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Oh, I bet. Okay.
Lola Brooke
I mean, I feel like we gonna get back in or whatever, but we've worked.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
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Host 2 (possibly Mal)
To get off the. Don't play with this stuff. What is your relationship now with Billy B And everything that happened there? I don't even know the full backstory, but I know that was a thing when the remix happened and everything. Where is that relationship at now?
Lola Brooke
There's no relationship.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Okay, fair enough.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, it is what it is.
Lola Brooke
No relationship.
Jonathan Goldstein
You know what I'm saying?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Like, yeah, okay. Speaking of Philly on, I bet you have New York la, Gilly's daughter, who I think is going to be a superstar.
Lola Brooke
She is incredible. The people just don't know it yet.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But it's going to happen.
Lola Brooke
Out.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
How did that relationship start? Because she's the only feature on there, right?
Lola Brooke
Yep. Okay. So I was bumping into New York LA in the spots. Like, everybody's just outside vibing. I don't remember exactly what we was doing while we was outside, but the energy just kept. We kept connecting outside of music. So once one day she was in New York City and they asked like, yo, you want to get in with New York la? And I'm like, yeah, facts. And we made a record from scratch.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
She produced on it as well.
Lola Brooke
What you mean, like on a beat?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, I mean.
Lola Brooke
I mean we. Well, we did say what we like and what we dislike. When the producers was working, it was S Dot and Reefer. So we was saying like, we like this vibe. We don't like this. Or she freestyling, she trying to get a hook together and then I'm freestyling, trying to get a verse to see what would sound good. And what was the subject matter?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, how do you feel artists have to market these days? Because that used to fall on the label and I feel like that doesn't. The label has stepped out and they call themselves just distribution at this point.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Right.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
They're a bank. What's the type of pressure when you're putting out an album, ep, single, that. That's in the back of your mind now, where maybe that wasn't a thing artists had to think about in the beginning.
Lola Brooke
I don't know if this is something that artists didn't have to think about in the beginning, but for me, I can't make music that I can't sell. Like, if it don't fit for my brand, I'm not trying to fit in. If a song don't fit me. It's not for me. Like, I can't for producer in there, and he's saying, oh, I think you should talk about telling a nigga, take you shopping every day. I'm like, I don't. That's not my pop. Like, I like to shop, but I don't care.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's not a marketing plan.
Lola Brooke
Like, that's not marketing plan.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Lola go shopping all over New York City.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, the easiest one now, I guess would just be post Kendrick Drake Beef. Just find somebody to say something bad about.
Lola Brooke
But see, that's another thing too.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Like, and then start a Discord channel.
Lola Brooke
Is just not my bop. Like, you know what I'm saying? So when you ask me that question about if I still had a relationship with this person, it's like, nah, I don't feed into stuff like that like that. That don't feed me. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like my energy is very big and I have to protect it like that. Not come good with that. Of course, this is a competitive sport. You know what I'm saying? But social media makes things so small that I don't feel like it's a friendly competitive sport no more. It gets personal. So I stay away from me.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah. I mean, but at this point, outside of that situation, if somebody did put a record out, not. Not some social media back and forth, but actual record, do you feel like that would make you get in the booth or you still want to just chill?
Lola Brooke
It depends if it's. If I feel like it depends, sometimes I'll be like, why would I respond to that?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, I get that.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Have they thrown shots at you?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I don't.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I feel like I don't. I feel like I would have caught it if one of them had threw some shots at Lola.
Lola Brooke
That's what I'm saying. They probably did. But it ain't hit.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like that, baby.
Jonathan Goldstein
D. Yeah, you can shoot as much as you want. If I don't get grades, the I'm shooting back for.
Lola Brooke
Right. Like, I probably ain't even hear them shots.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I don't think I've heard of any. Any. Any girls throw shots at Lola, though.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, you do a good job at staying away from.
Lola Brooke
See, that's the thing. I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's been thrown. But I. Like I said, all jokes aside, I'm living proof. I do not pay attention to bullshit.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, I mean, I respect that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Do we think they'll ever be the male rapper versus female Rapper. And I'm not saying like the party and Meg situation because they dated. I'm talking about just a straight up man versus woman.
Lola Brooke
I ain't going front. Like, I'm not quick to. To go neck to neck with a female artist. Yeah, I feel like it's like, come on, Zombie.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's a little cliche.
Lola Brooke
We already outnumbered, bro. Like, it don't even make sense. But for a male artist. Oh, I might clip them.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Lola, if I hear you. Listen, I like you. If I hear you throwing shots at one of these, I'm not.
Lola Brooke
I ain't gonna. I'm just saying if I. If a shot thrown at me, I'm. I might. I'm. I might.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But why. Who. Who would even do that though? Like, what cow would be on the mic? So that's why.
Lola Brooke
It's like, that's why I would do it.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Dream Dog Smoke. Tory Lanez. But again, that came from like back dating history. I want to see the one outside of like URL.
Lola Brooke
Reason.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
So I'm saying outside of that, I would just like to see the. The non dating past male versus female rapper.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But like, what male MC is going to be like, you know what?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I don't like, low times have changed, man.
Lola Brooke
When you so confident, people will want to come at you because you just so confident and it might happen. I. I pray it don't. Because, you know, I love the Brooklyn way.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I. I really don't want to enjoy Badass.
Lola Brooke
Spread all. Any.
Jonathan Goldstein
All love.
Lola Brooke
I get tough love too. That's the Brooklyn way too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I guess when I was younger, maybe those dudes did love me. That chased me out of Brooklyn. Maybe they were just trying to catch me to tell me I had to.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Hide in a hardware store one time to not get jumped in Brooklyn. There was nothing lovely about Brooklyn.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, I got you.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
They showed no love.
Jonathan Goldstein
But y'.
Lola Brooke
All.
Jonathan Goldstein
Why were y' all there? They women.
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Yeah.
Lola Brooke
So then you. They got rights to.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
They don't. If I'm coming to see a girl, I don't know these.
Lola Brooke
They got rights, man.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Rights to what? Yeah, like her body hurts yours.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I was going to see a girl. I was going to see a girl. Dudes are standing outside now.
Lola Brooke
I'm probably was their little sister, man. They probably ain't tripping at you doing your big one.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It probably was.
Lola Brooke
But they like not over here. This little sis.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And don't do that because if one of Lola's homeboys came up to Grand Concourse to see your sister, I don't think you'd be Sitting there like, yeah, nah, come on in, sir.
Lola Brooke
That's what I'm saying.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That's a fact.
Lola Brooke
Gotta protect the foot.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, yeah, we don't look at it like that. We just going to see a girl. But, yeah, them niggas definitely chased me all the way back to the train. Good times, though. Good times. All right, so talk to us about the new album, Lola, I bet.
Lola Brooke
Whatever you need, I got it. It's one of those what you feel, how you feeling right now? How you want to feel?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I want to hear. I want to hear Lola rap about the guy that got away.
Lola Brooke
The guy that got away? Yeah, I get away.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
See, that's a problem. Why y' all acting like y' all don't never date guys that, like, were good guys. He was a great guy. You may have been.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Terrible judgment.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You was in Limb Bowl. You still was with this ain't that you was in love with.
Lola Brooke
That's why girls like me need to be in the forefront, too, because y' all really think women. The only women out here that exist is. Ain't women.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying ain't. I'm wrong.
Lola Brooke
Yeah. No, but that's what y' all saying.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But you can. You can let a. You can lose a guy. Like, from.
Lola Brooke
From. Yeah, from me being a ain't person. No, but, like, how else would he get away?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Because say you're in a situation, right? Like, you're dating somebody. It's not the best situation, but you are in a relationship. You just happen to meet a guy, he's great, he's cool, but you don't really. Can't give him the energy that, you know, because it's like, I got a situation, I got somebody. But, you know, this guy is good for you. Like, he's the type of the dude you with. He ain't shit. You know what I'm saying? Not saying he cheated, nothing like that, but it's just like, he got a lot of weird shit going on. Not shit that's progressive in your life. Could be kind of toxic. This guy is. You know, he's all of the things he's. But it's just that you're not single. That could be the guy that got away. Like, he got away from me.
Lola Brooke
Listen.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Or would you just straight up leave the other.
Lola Brooke
I'm not happy. I am leaving. I've been in. Hold on, let me. Let me finish.
Jonathan Goldstein
Say it again.
Lola Brooke
I've been in relationships where I wasn't happy, and I was still there because I felt that it had some. I had some fight in me. You know what I'm saying? I give it a chance. Things are not perfect. So just because you're not happy at that moment don't mean that you can't be happy in the future with this person. It's just y' all might not be seeing out of eye. So I give it a chance, you know what I'm saying? So, yes, a good guy might come around when I'm trying to fight for my relationship, but that don't mean that he got away. He probably was good, but not good for me. Because if something is for me, it's gonna be there for sure. So even if I leave this man the next year and the other that the last man was trying to get me last year or whatever, during, he gonna be there.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Shit, I don't.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
So he just gotta wait around, right? And if he just gotta wait to.
Lola Brooke
Hit the storm, then it's all right. I'm not folding. I'm good. God got me, man. God got me like, you attached to.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That baby, D. I sure do.
Lola Brooke
God got me like, what's for me.
Jonathan Goldstein
Will never miss me.
Lola Brooke
Yes. You gotta learn as a woman to learn how to be alone. That means I need time for myself.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I agree with that. That I agree with. I think women do need to learn how to be alone.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yes, people need to learn how to be alone.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But women, too, though.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Though.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Y' all can't be alone.
Lola Brooke
I know how to be alone.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Women, you know people. No, I'm saying. But women don't. Women don't know how to be alone.
Jonathan Goldstein
Women love being alone. It be that. Don't know how to. Y' all know how to not be in relationships, but y' all do not.
Lola Brooke
Know how to be alone. Thank you. There's two different things.
Jonathan Goldstein
It's always a. In that phone at all times. Women are ghost stints where there's, like. They really just, like, eat, pray, love. Like, women do. Like that.
Lola Brooke
Men do not do that. Not practice celibacy. Yes, we do not. No. Yeah. Not.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
What's. What's the exact date on celibacy?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
What's the number without sex?
Lola Brooke
You want to know how long I practice celibacy?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No, no, no, no, no. Not you. I'm just saying, what's the number?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, what's. If a guy be like, yo, I ain't had sex in.
Jonathan Goldstein
A choice.
Lola Brooke
It don't matter. The number. As long as you practicing it, it don't matter.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, but I'm gonna need. I need to know, like, a Good.
Lola Brooke
If you could go 30 days, it's like, that's you. You discipline yourself.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Proof. Oh, 30.
Jonathan Goldstein
But did you choose it? Celibacy means you chose that path. Not just, damn, I ain't ran ACROSS no in 30 days.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Jonathan Goldstein
It's like I am choosing to not. Not have sex for 30 days.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I think. I think it's all a choice. Because if I wanted to have sex, even if I don't have, I can go buy sex.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He's not wrong.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And even with a phone. Not that there's something I practice. You don't even need to buy sex. You could just find sex on your phone.
Lola Brooke
Okay, but whatever 30 days is, is.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I think in this era, five days.
Lola Brooke
That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, so 30 days is like, okay. I could applaud to it because a.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Lot of people don't know how to. That's easy.
Lola Brooke
It's not for me.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It's easy.
Lola Brooke
That's one day for me.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
The longest time. What was that? I think I went almost a year one time.
Jonathan Goldstein
You keep telling us that. And the numbers just keep growing. Six months. Now it's almost a year.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, it was almost a year.
Lola Brooke
I went too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I told you. You went two years, no sex for sure.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Fourteen for me.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Two years, no sex. In the free world. Damn.
Jonathan Goldstein
In the free world, you weren't locked up.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. If I ain't in jail, two years is. That's a long time.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, but you still don't feel like there's ever been a fumble. Not based off your personality, just based off, I don't know, maybe your work schedule, your world going on a 180 after everything popped. Like, I could see that being a difficult thing. No matter even if you was talking to somebody before.
Lola Brooke
For a person.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
In general, I've dealt with it. That's how I still got my person now. Okay, we work through it. That's what I'm saying. When it's for you, it's gonna be there. Like, you work through it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Do you think it's important to find somebody that kind of, like, understands your lifestyle because they're in the entertainment industry?
Lola Brooke
It helps. It helps. I'm not gonna lie with my situation. It is helping. Like, we understand. I get it. He get it, and we cool.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah. Yeah. I've had both sides of that, and I think they. They have the same challenges in different ways because I appreciate the person that is in the same space I'm in and understands that part, but that can get a little too fucking Messy and weird and yeah, it's a little overlap.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
On certain things, certain people.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And then I've had the relationship that she had no idea who the fuck I was or what I do. I thought that was great. But then you get to those points where it's like, I have to record for four episodes. We gotta go do this, this, this. Like they don't understand, have no idea what that means. Like, wait, this is work? I'm like, yeah, this is actual work.
Lola Brooke
It depends on the part.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I was in therapy once. She said, he was working. I was like, I was working.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, I was working.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I was really working.
Lola Brooke
See, when that's your person, they are willing to sit there and take the time to figure it out. I'm saying trust is a big thing too. No, trust is nothing.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
We don't have to get into two details of like who they are. But are they from like at least the tri state area?
Lola Brooke
Because mall out of town with it, baby.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
So that's, that's my thing. So.
Lola Brooke
Hey, boo.
Jonathan Goldstein
It'd be like that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Listen, every time.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
See, you're not on the inside of.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
The jungle going on right now.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
She over there popping it. Yeah, she over there popping it too much.
Lola Brooke
Sometimes you gotta go out of town.
Jonathan Goldstein
Sometimes you gotta go out.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Every time. Every time. Time I do that, I come right back home. Though. Like all my long term relationships is women from the five boroughs.
Jonathan Goldstein
That's because New York women are the best women.
Lola Brooke
Exactly.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That goes without saying.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I don't know about that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I. I've went, I've went OT for it and yeah, it's cool for a little while, but they just not from New York.
Lola Brooke
I think I went somewhere maybe kind of crazy. I'm in Cleveland with it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Cleveland.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Oh, d busy bone.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
LeBron left Cleveland.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Well, man, he took his talents.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
LeBron left, left Cleveland.
Lola Brooke
And my boo did too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like Cleveland.
Lola Brooke
He's still jacket. Of course.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Damn.
Lola Brooke
But I'm just saying, like I went out out of town with it, but I'm a female. Where. When I was growing up, I had a boyfriend in high school and we did not go to the same school.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Okay, but like he went to Boys and Girls High and you went to Brooklyn Tech.
Lola Brooke
I was going to boys. I was going to Boys and Girls.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That was a guess.
Lola Brooke
I went to the high.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Nailed that.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, I went to the high.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Okay.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
And he.
Lola Brooke
We ain't got to talk about, like.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I mean, I love the high school.
Lola Brooke
But like you're saying he's not that hot to be telling, so please O.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But like, how far was the distance.
Lola Brooke
It was in Brooklyn, though, because that's.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
The difference between New York and Cleveland.
Lola Brooke
Like, would you. Oh, I mean, I was. I'm a kid, man. That's all. Like, what, you thought I was a kid?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, that's a real thing, though, because I remember once I had a crush on a girl, and then she transferred schools and it broke my heart. And then when I got older, I realized she just moved to Queens. I could have still saw that girl.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Bronx, the Queen's the longest relationship in Brooklyn is not. Unless you're in, like, Sheepshead Bay. Like, you're not. That's not a long distance relationship.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Depending on where you are in Brooklyn.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Bed Stuy to Fort Green is not a long.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, that's not a long relationship. But. But the Bronx or Queens, that's long distance.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
How. How did you make.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
If I got to take three trains to see Shorty? Come on, fam. What we doing? And them niggas don't like us. So I'm going through mad. It's like a video game. I got to go through mad. I got to pick up food on the way. I got mad shit I got to do.
Lola Brooke
I feel. Feel you, man. Like, you and you a kid, man. You don't got. You know what I'm saying?
Jonathan Goldstein
You on feet.
Lola Brooke
You don't got money for the fair.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
For real.
Lola Brooke
You hopping out cabs like you. Like you. Sometimes you just want to walk across the street or go next door or something.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, no, I agree with you. It's definitely easier wearing Queens.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Was she. Was it then to Dollar Cab or Dollar Van?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
N I. I just took the. The F train to Parsons. I remember that was the stop. Parsons keep reminiscent. Yeah, she was.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
She was in Jamaica Estate. She had a little. Little money.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, no, she wasn't. She was on the block down the hill. She was on the block. It was going on outside her building for sure. Definitely.
Lola Brooke
But yeah, you don't.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Like.
Lola Brooke
It's like where you. You don't sleep at. Right? Like, that's.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that sounds good.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
In theory, but yeah, no, I definitely. A lot.
Lola Brooke
That's how I look at it. Like, listen, when I'm home, I'm focused. I'm trying to get to it. You know what I'm saying? I'm a hustler when I'm home, and then I need. When I want to step away. It's a whole new world for me. I want to step away.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
What's the biggest misconception about you? That you've heard, like, people say or think about you.
Lola Brooke
Like, people be thinking that I purposely want to be aggressive or I want to be gangster or something like that. Like, if that lifestyle for me is something that I crave. Like, I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. I had no.
Degree Cool Rush Announcer
This is what I saw.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
But to be tough like this, and I'm small with no siblings, without what you. What you.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, you. You're the only child.
Lola Brooke
Yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Oh, you had to fight. Fight.
Lola Brooke
You know what I'm saying? So I had to go out there and be like, yeah, this bro right here. This right here. And they got me good, you know? But me ma, I was straight. Like, I ain't really have no. No crazy problems, but I'm out there fighting.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I lost a lot as an only child. I'm glad that you prospered. I didn't.
Lola Brooke
You know what I'm saying?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I got beat up a lot.
Lola Brooke
If anything, people wanted to protect me because I was so small. I was down to earth. I ain't take no shit from nobody, but it was like, I have no choice but to be this person.
Jonathan Goldstein
Especially when. Especially when you small. Like, people play with you more.
Lola Brooke
They play with you from a young age.
Jonathan Goldstein
You learn that. Like, you have to project out a little bit. People call it Napoleon syndrome, but whatever. Like, no, Like, I'm gonna be heard. You're not gonna play with me. I don't care how small I am.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Don't play with me.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yeah, don't play with it like this short women.
Lola Brooke
That's why I'm like, don't play with it. Like, don't judge a book by its cover. I'm not saying that I'm trying to be on that, but if I gotta be on that, then it is what it is. You know what I'm saying?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Now, have you met. Cause obviously you get the comparisons a lot. And we've obviously talked about just the tone of Fox. Have you met Fox yet? Have you had a chance to meet him?
Lola Brooke
Not in person, but we done text and stuff like that. Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
How much of a. Cause, obviously, being from Brooklyn, how much of an influence was Foxy for you, though?
Lola Brooke
Fox and Kim is like, you gotta know those two women in rap. Like, you have to know I'm from the Star as well as them, too. So it was like, right in your face. And then I feel like those are two women in the game that are very much Brooklyn. They see when people used to be like, oh, why you so this and why you so that you aggressive? Or whatever the case may Be. I start looking at them and saying, well, I'm a Brooklyn girl, just like them, so why I'm getting punched on.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Kim had her aggressive moments in her music, too.
Lola Brooke
You know what I'm saying?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, a lot of people forget about little Kim, but she had. She had aggressive, aggressive energy in a lot of her music.
Lola Brooke
Yeah. So it's like, why. Why I'm getting punched on? Like, I thought women in Brooklyn was rawr. That's what I am.
Annabe Sofa Announcer
Rawr.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But when.
Jonathan Goldstein
When you go to. So other parts of the country aren't used to. To New York women. New York are used to New York women, but other people on the other side, like, they're not used to that. And they're like, why are you so aggressive? It's just like that. Well, you're not aggressive.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Is there a New York female rapper that's not.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yes, there's. There's a couple of them.
Lola Brooke
Yeah. Of course.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I'm talking about, like, more. On the legendary set. Nikki is aggressive. Remy is aggressive.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Well, Nikki, Nikki, Nikki. She had. She had songs.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Nikki has her pop. Don't.
Lola Brooke
The tone. Her tone is.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
But Nikki gets a. Like, Nikki started out aggressive. Yes. On the DVDs, Nikki was aggressive. That wasn't.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, no, definitely. That's why she has the moments. But then Nikki also ushered in the whole doll thing, which was very feminine.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, but I mean, even to your point, Kim had her aggressive time, but Kim was feminine, super feminine.
Lola Brooke
Fox was feminine, too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Fox's tone was just so different.
Lola Brooke
Her tone was aggressive, but what she.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Was saying was very feminine feminine, you.
Lola Brooke
Know what I'm saying? But see, me, I was a tomboy. So when I get aggressive, I'm like one of the bros. I ain't going front. I' like a loo of DMX inside of me or something, but. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, as I get older, I will become the woman that I need to be. This is the process. Like, y' all looking at an artist that's starting from the very beginning.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
I don't think, you know, social media, like today's world social media, you get to see everything in detail without going to look for it, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like people just didn't know that when a Brooklyn girl start off, this is her first stop.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You said something earlier about when don't play with it came out and then it taken off the success of it and that you kind of had to like, get in that mode of like, you know, Basically being able to handle the success of the record taking off. And you wasn't. You said you weren't ready for that. What is it? What do you mean by that? Like you weren't expecting it to be as big as it was. And then now obviously you're not home, you're on the road, you're doing shows, you're doing, you know, all of these things. Do you think that that was something that helped you now with this album, with this project coming out now, is that something that you're. In the back of my mind, like, okay, I gotta be ready for anything. Cause at any point in time, shit clicks and I gotta be on the road for however many days out of the year.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, but see, I'm a hard worker. That's the thing. Like, I come from a hard working mom too, so I'm not scared of the work. Shout out to my moms, I love you, mom. The work is not the part for me. I work hard. It's learning how to work smart. It's learning how to work and still be yourself. And when you got to tell somebody no, you know how to say it without just saying yes all the time because you gonna lose yourself. So now with the success going as it's going, I couldn't feel it because I was living in a moment for everybody else and not me. But now I look back and I could see it. Like, that's like my mom's. Like, if I'm having an interview, my moms could look and say, well, something was bothering you. You all right? Like, I could see it. So now I look back on the work that I put out and I could see it. I'm like, oh, I was lost. So I fixed up.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, I mean, that's good that you can recognize it though.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Because most people, it again, takes some years to even recognize that type of.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, you just go through some hard times, man. Like when you by yourself, dealing with problems by yourself.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Hey, only child vibes, I'm with you. You wouldn't even. Yeah, he has 17 siblings and they're all famous. 17.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It's not seven, it's 11. But still, who's counting after 10, right?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Joshua, voicemails. So on our show we have our fans call in, they tell us stories, they ask for advice. It's just. Just a voicemail segment which we want to include you in.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You've got mail. What's up, guys?
Voicemail Caller
I hope that you're all having a blessed winter, cold, wet, whatever, hopefully sunny day. But I have a predicament that I think you guys would be the best people to help me get through. I had my soul stolen by a woman from the Bronx. I need y' all to let me know how I'm supposed to get it back. And now I know when I say I had my soul stolen, it may paint an image that I'm talking to.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You know that.
Voicemail Caller
Gawk, gawk, whatever, Not. That's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is I fucked with Ashawnee from the Bronx, and she, like, ever since I fucked with her, and then, you know, it fell through. She curbed me, whatever. I just. I can't like no bitches no more. Like, I apologize. I ain't mean to call. I ain't mean to say bitches. They're not bitches. I ain't say that. I ain't calling bitches, but I just can't like bitches no more. And I don't. Like, how do you. How do you. How do you get your soul? Like.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, I feel.
Voicemail Caller
I feel like with her left a piece of myself, you know what I mean? Like, I just can't. Like, I need. I need. I need you guys assistance. How do I recover from this? How do I get back to the me that existed before I fucked with a woman for the box?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Just say you gay.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Well, wait, hold on. Did he. Did they hook up? Like, was they with each other?
Jonathan Goldstein
I think so.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It seems like he said she curved.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Him, and so I'm like, yeah, no, I think.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I think he got the top and. And she left. But it was the greatest that he ever had. Oh, and now he can't even see colors the same way.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah. Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He had a prom eater, and she.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Went crazy on him. She gave him that. You know when you go to the car wash and they actually ask you if you want your undercarriage?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, they paint the tire, too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Like, she gave him all of that and didn't curved them. Yeah, that'll you up. That'll throw you off because now you. Now you wondering each other, like, what happened?
Lola Brooke
Like, why he needs some closure.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, he want closure. He. Well, he want. He want.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He want her.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, he want.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But he. But he want to know why. Like, she curved him. I don't. He didn't say why she curved him, but that's probably what it was.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He doesn't care why it happened. He just wants that neck again.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You.
Jonathan Goldstein
It was never.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He just needs to move.
Lola Brooke
Nah, he wanna.
Jonathan Goldstein
He like her.
Lola Brooke
He don't want nobody else to have up about her.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yeah, he Up.
Lola Brooke
It be like that.
Jonathan Goldstein
It be like that.
Lola Brooke
He don't want nobody else to have her and he left.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, but why do you think that? Because she was a great listener or gotta have that.
Jonathan Goldstein
He could just like her personality. Rory.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
No, I'm on that type of side, but that's not what I. I heard in that voicemail.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, I don't get that from this.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's not the vibe I caught there. I don't know.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Was so in love with our person.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Maybe the windshield wipers you up gave it away.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, it's a rainy day.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
He going through it's rain to a podcast when it's raining with your windshield wipers on.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Double answering the phone. Yeah, he going through it.
Jonathan Goldstein
So what is you guys advice for him to get over her?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Oh, you got to block that number. Block the ig and just go find something else. You never going to get that back.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, you got to just get something better.
Jonathan Goldstein
But he said he don't.
Lola Brooke
He can't.
Jonathan Goldstein
He can't like other women. So that's the problem that you got to get over is that the homeless.
Lola Brooke
Feel like she bad. She the baddest.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yeah, and now he comparing everybody to her, so now he don't like nobody else.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I feel like he hasn't gone out there to see that, though. I think he has been holding back because he thinks she's. That he's putting her up on a pedestal that maybe she doesn't like, belong on. He should go out there and go find another woman.
Lola Brooke
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
We know you're from the Bronx.
Lola Brooke
That's cause he's sleeping on a woman in the Bronx. He's trying to like. He, he. He came through like, yeah, I'm him. And then she said, wang, bang, bang.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
He thought it was a cakewalk out of here. She threw it back. She threw it back and looked at him.
Lola Brooke
She threw it off.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
They do that. I'm sorry, baby D. My bad. I had a flat. I'm sorry.
Lola Brooke
Be respectful.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm so sorry.
Lola Brooke
Be respectful.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, I'm sorry. I'm just saying. I know.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I thought he was being really respectful.
Lola Brooke
That's.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's a really respectable move.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I know what he's going through. Like, she turned him out. She turned him out. Like, the sex was great.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Do we think that he was parked outside her apartment? Because when you got the windshield wipers going like that part of me fe like, he recorded that voicemail outside her crib.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, he. Outside the building for sure.
Lola Brooke
Standing here looking out my window, that's.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Definitely what he was doing. He was definitely right up the block, right by the train. He know what train she take. He was right by the steps. You know, you come down the steps.
Jonathan Goldstein
He was gonna ask her if he needed a ride.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Cause he was just raining, too. Like, raining. I didn't even know this was the time he was walking outside, but I'll drive you.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, you just gotta get back out there, man. You gonna meet somebody else, and then you know that girl's gonna be an afterthought.
Jonathan Goldstein
You always love the next person more than you love the last. That's all I. Men don't feel that way. Women do.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Y' all always love the next.
Jonathan Goldstein
We love the next more.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
We be, like, heartbroken.
Jonathan Goldstein
And then the next one, we be like, oh, my God, I love you way more than I loved him.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's cuz you don't know his yet. Three times, cuz y' all don't know anything about that.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Done with love.
Jonathan Goldstein
I'm like, oh, my God. I've never love. I love you way more than the last three. But y' all don't feel like that.
Lola Brooke
The.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And then you leave them and spin the block back the.
Jonathan Goldstein
That broke your heart at 28. Y' all be down bad about her for the rest of y' all lives.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Me, I don't even remember who I dated at 28.
Jonathan Goldstein
Well, you 48, so.
Lola Brooke
Well, I hope my man ain't talking about some.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Exactly.
Lola Brooke
See? So I hope that ain't true.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's definitely not true, cuz I'm gonna.
Lola Brooke
Make a call after this.
Jonathan Goldstein
Oh, let me see. Home. Happy I'm up. I'm this.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Why don't get a call. He don't even know what's going. Like, what I'm. What you talking about?
Jonathan Goldstein
About who you dating when you was 28. What?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I've never. I've never even been 28.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, it was 27 and 29.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And I went to 29 like I didn't even exist.
Lola Brooke
Oh, man.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
All right.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That's funny, though. If you was dating Lola and you pissed her off and she, like, literally put on. Don't play with it in the crib like you. You in the bathroom. You just hear that bass.
Lola Brooke
I should have knew that.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That yo date.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Cuz I'd be scared if my girl threw that record on. If I up. Imagine if you had the real artist to. To rap that to you.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yo, dating a rapper gotta be crazy. Like, for a guy, cuz if you, like, think about it. If we going. Me and my girl going through something. She's a. She's a rapper.
Jonathan Goldstein
She bar you up.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, like, how you even deal with that?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I've done it with R B. I made sure those records didn't make the album, though.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
R B is different. I'm talking about a woman that writes rhymes.
Jonathan Goldstein
Bar you up.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
That's your girl y' all going through.
Jonathan Goldstein
And you know it's about you, cuz. She mentioned your hairline.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
She put out a crazy record. And you gotta like, live in that record. Everywhere you go, they playing that. You go to the spot and then when they get to the part that everybody love, the whole. The DJ dropped the beat and you.
Jonathan Goldstein
Sitting with this yelling bum ass nigga in unison.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
But y' all good now, though. That was like six months ago. Y' all was going through that. Now y' all good. But you gotta keep living that moment because it made for great music.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Sick.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Damn, that's wild, man. I ain't gonna lie. That's crazy. Shout out to you.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Or if that just triggers everything when you guys are good and you sitting there like, yo, I'm sorry for playing.
Lola Brooke
So we just gonna be battle rapping, I guess.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Lola, we not doing that. If you and your start battle rapping.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Lola, I'm telling you, that's not couple skill building.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Nobody want to hear that.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
How they make brunch together.
Lola Brooke
No, but see, I'm not with that. Like we. I see when I argue, it sound like I'm rapping. So I already got it out. If we going back and forth, I already got it out. You ain't gonna hear it tonight on the record.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
See, that would be a problem for me if my girl could rap and we arguing and she say some shit and it sound like a bar.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yep.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
We got another problem now.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
We argue as well. He has the artist brain. I pull out the voice note recorder when we arguing just so we could use it later.
Lola Brooke
You do that?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I've done it before.
Lola Brooke
Wow.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
With an arm sign. Taurus.
Jonathan Goldstein
What's your sign, Lola?
Lola Brooke
Aquarius.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I don't know what any of that means.
Jonathan Goldstein
Because you're a Libra.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm a Libra?
Lola Brooke
Oh, I with Libras. My mom's a Libra. October 2nd.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Come on. What you September 26th.
Lola Brooke
I don't know about y'.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
All.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, I'm a Libra. No, I'm not still in the gang. I'm not ganging. Me and moms ain't gang gang. I don't September. But Yeah, we cool. All right, Lola.
Jonathan Goldstein
So.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
So I bet out.
Lola Brooke
I bet. Coming out Friday. Yes, Friday, November 14th.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Stream that. Support that.
Lola Brooke
Yes, yes.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
This is Brooklyn, New York City.
Lola Brooke
Oh, I like how you said Brooklyn, son.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
This is Brooklyn.
Lola Brooke
Nah, you said. You said it better last time.
Jonathan Goldstein
But we gonna catch it.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Okay. I mean, I love Brooklyn. Shout out to Brooklyn.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Are we gonna get a hometown show with this release?
Lola Brooke
Mm, he about to make me say something.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Hold on, hold on.
Lola Brooke
If you cut the cameras, I'll let you know what's going on. But I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make it happen, though. I gotta show love to the towns. You crazy.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
So.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, I've never seen you perform live. I gotta go.
Jonathan Goldstein
We gotta go. Yes.
Lola Brooke
You know what?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I gotta catch a show.
Lola Brooke
I bet we gonna.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I gotta see how. I think. No, actually, I think I was. No, you. I think you came out on somebody's set.
Jonathan Goldstein
Did you come out on one of Kim sets before?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, I saw you, right?
Lola Brooke
No, no.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Which time? You did Barclays.
Lola Brooke
That was. That was Future.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I was at the Barclays one and.
Lola Brooke
Boogie brought me out at the Barclays, and I've been brought out the Barclays.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
As you should.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
As you should. Yeah, exactly.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah, I think. No, I think it was the A Boogie one. I definitely saw you perform.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah, I saw you somewhere. It wasn't Barclays, though. I forgot whose show.
Lola Brooke
I've been to Madison Square too.
Jonathan Goldstein
Yo, one thing about boogie, when boogie come out, it's gonna be Boogie and friends. And if anybody come to New York, they bring boogie out every time.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
As they should.
Jonathan Goldstein
I've been at the Boogie More than Anybody stadium too.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
No, I've seen.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Wait for the Hip Hop 50.
Degree Cool Rush Announcer
Yeah.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
That was a great day. That was one of my favorite shows ever, period, was the Hip Hop 50 at Yankee Stadium. That was crazy. Yeah, it was a really, really fun time.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
It might have been la. Yeah, it might have been la. I saw you. I can't remember who it was.
Jonathan Goldstein
Well, we gonna check you out when the next time you perform here. You don't gotta say I'm Mike when it's gon be. But we'll be there.
Lola Brooke
Okay.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Yeah.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Lola, I'm pulling up. I need to see a full Lola Brook set. I need to see how you. I need to see what you do with the stage.
Lola Brooke
Yeah, I got y', all, man.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Even if it's Brooklyn Tabernacle on a Friday night, we out there.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Brooklyn Tab.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
You wasn't outside. You don't remember them nights.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I remember.
Lola Brooke
What's that?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's a church.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Oh. Oh.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
They turn church into a club on Friday night's Brooklyn Tabernacle, you know.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
You never heard Brooklyn Tabernacle?
Lola Brooke
No.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's a really good. When I was finding myself, I went there a lot on Friday nights.
Lola Brooke
Where is that, like, at? Where?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
It's like, sort of downtownish.
Lola Brooke
Wow. Did that.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yeah.
Lola Brooke
Brooklyn is.
Jonathan Goldstein
Wow.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Brooklyn bk.
Jonathan Goldstein
Ew.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I didn't like. I didn't like that.
Jonathan Goldstein
I didn't like.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
I'd redo that one.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm sorry. Well, shout out to you, Lola. We appreciate you for pulling up. I bet. Available November 14th. Stream that, support that. This is New York City. This is Brooklyn. Lola, we'll see you soon.
Lola Brooke
I see y' all soon.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. That's Lola Brooke.
Lola Brooke
Oh, he did. Oh, that. Now that was not nice. You said just I'm that nigga.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
He's meaning like.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Cause they say he's Cadence.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
I'm like, he's just ginger.
Lola Brooke
So what am I? Carmel?
Degree Cool Rush Announcer
You will be.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Yes.
Lola Brooke
Okay. No worries.
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
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Host 1 (possibly Rory)
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Lola Brooke
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Lola Brooke
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Host 2 (possibly Mal)
And on the new season of Heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old and a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.
Lola Brooke
How can a hundred and one year old woman fall in love again?
Host 2 (possibly Mal)
Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Lola Brooke
Jingle bells, jingle bells? Jingle all the way.
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
Can we get a Thanksgiving first? I'm hungry.
Lola Brooke
What's up, y'?
Annabe Sofa Announcer
All?
Host 1 (possibly Rory)
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Lola Brooke
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Host 1 (possibly Rory)
And tune in to Ellis Ever After.
Lola Brooke
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Host 1 (possibly Rory)
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Lola Brooke
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Annabe Sofa Announcer
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Lola Brooke
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Jonathan Goldstein
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Jonathan Goldstein
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Annabe Sofa Announcer
We'll share behind the scenes stories about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in some special guests to spill some tea. Listen to welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jonathan Goldstein
This is an iHeart podcast.
Date: November 13, 2025
Guest: Lola Brooke (Brooklyn rapper)
Hosts: Rory & Mal (with contributions from Jonathan Goldstein)
This episode is a lively, in-depth check-in with rapper Lola Brooke as she gears up for the release of her new album I Bet. The hosts dig into her Brooklyn roots, come-up story, signature energy, personal and musical evolution, and her perspective on relationships, the rap industry, and artistry. The conversation is light-hearted yet thoughtful, blending humor, nostalgia, and genuine insights—typical of the New Rory & Mal vibe.
Timestamps: 03:50–07:40
Timestamps: 07:49–10:46
Timestamps: 10:53–17:31
Timestamps: 21:23–26:13
Timestamps: 26:13–30:33
Timestamps: 30:33–32:26, 38:12–41:02
Timestamps: 20:43–54:55
Timestamps: 56:46–59:19
Timestamps: 39:51–41:02
Timestamps: 62:00–67:44
Timestamps: 68:00–69:45
Timestamps: 70:16–72:12
“The moment you stop being yourself, it’s over.”
—Bryson Tiller to Lola Brooke (19:35)
“Don’t Play With It was me 100%. That song is my brand.”
—Lola Brooke (15:41)
“I’m not spiteful. Like, I don't do spiteful things. My get-back is moving on.”
—Lola Brooke (11:28)
“I can’t make music that I can’t sell. If it don’t fit my brand, I’m not trying to fit in.”
—Lola Brooke (40:13)
“People be thinking that I purposely want to be aggressive or gangster…But I had no choice but to be this person.”
—Lola Brooke (55:17, 56:05)
On Brooklyn:
“My daddy is from Brooklyn…My uncles are good men…All my uncles…I don’t got not one uncle that don't take care of his kids.”
—Lola Brooke (24:57-25:09)
| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |---------|-------------|-----------| | Identity Debate | Ghetto vs. Ratchet | 03:50–07:40 | | Meaning of "I Bet" | New Album Themes & Lingo | 07:49–10:46 | | Success of "Don't Play With It" | Navigating Fame & Pressure | 10:53–17:31 | | Brooklyn Dating & Family | Ranking Boroughs, Family Pride | 21:23–26:13 | | Brooklyn Music Evolution | Gentrification, Drill | 26:13–30:33 | | Collaborations & Industry | Remix Choices, Industry | 30:33–32:26; 38:12–41:02 | | Relationships & Fame | Dating as a Celebrity | 20:43–54:55 | | Womanhood, Rappers, Identity | Aggression, Foxy, Kim | 56:46–59:19 | | Marketing & Authenticity | Artistic Integrity | 39:51–41:02 | | Listener Voicemail | Soul Stolen by Bronx Woman | 62:00–67:44 | | Rapping in Relationships | Dating Rappers | 68:00–69:45 | | Album & Upcoming Shows | What's Next | 70:16–72:12 |
The conversation is honest, funny, and deeply Brooklyn-centric. Lola is candid about her struggles and growth, proud of her roots, and unafraid to speak on industry realities or personal truths. The hosts’ banter, occasional teasing, and New York humor complement her stories, creating a space for both vulnerability and laughter.
This episode is a warm welcome into the world of Lola Brooke. Whether you’re a longtime fan or new to her music, she comes across as authentic, witty, and driven—committed to her craft and proudly representing Brooklyn, both in life and in her art. The hosts foster a fun, comfortable environment for real conversation and plenty of laughs, making this episode both insightful and highly entertaining.
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