Episode 237 | Taylor Swift Is The New Blu Cantrell

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL Episode: 237 | Taylor Swift Is The New Blu Cantrell
Release Date: January 26, 2024
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Moving to Puerto Rico to Avoid Taxes

[00:52 - 02:00]

The episode kicks off with a lively discussion about relocating to Puerto Rico as a tax haven. Rory passionately advocates for the move, citing its proximity to Miami and the allure of a "fucking paradise."

• Rory: "Puerto Rico is fucking paradise." [01:23]
• Julian: "You're really going to do Puerto Rico over Texas?" [01:18]

The hosts collectively agree on the benefits, emphasizing ease of access and minimal need for passports.

2. Naming Children After Cities

[05:19 - 11:17]

The conversation shifts to the trend of naming children after cities, debating names like Quebec, Denver, and Milan. Damaris shares her inclination towards the name Quebec for her son, highlighting its uniqueness and cultural flair.

• Damaris: "I felt very uncomfortable when I saw the pictures, and it wasn't me." [28:28]
• Rory: "I like Milan. Milan is a nice name." [05:37]

They explore potential nicknames and the social implications of such names, ultimately teasing the idea of naming a child "Q."

3. Leaked Video of Young Thug and Mariah the Scientist

[16:41 - 25:13]

A significant portion of the episode delves into the controversy surrounding a leaked jail visit video between Young Thug and Mariah the Scientist. The hosts express concerns about privacy invasion and the ethics of sharing intimate moments.

• Rory: "This is a direct invasion of privacy." [18:00]
• Julian: "It's an intimate moment." [18:31]

They critique the lack of repercussions for such leaks and discuss the broader implications of privacy in the digital age.

4. AI-Generated Deepfake Photos of Taylor Swift

[25:14 - 33:40]

The discussion intensifies as the hosts address the spread of AI-generated deepfake images of Taylor Swift in compromising situations. They highlight the discomfort and potential harm these images cause, especially to her young fanbase.

• Julian: "It feels like she's being sexually assaulted on the Internet." [27:16]
• Damaris: "This is a bit much for kids." [34:04]

The panel emphasizes the dangers of AI technology in creating realistic yet fake images, stressing the need for better digital safeguards.

5. Sports Talk: NFL and NBA Highlights

[35:55 - 73:43]

Transitioning to lighter topics, the hosts engage in spirited sports discussions, covering NFL championship games, player performances, and upcoming events like the "Lovers and Friends" festival in Las Vegas.

• Rory: "This is one of the best lineups I've ever seen for a festival." [71:23]
• Mal: "The lineup is insane. Like it was on April Fools." [59:56]

They analyze player stats, team strategies, and fan expectations, with particular focus on players like Jalen Brunson and Travis Kelsey.

6. Listener Voicemails: International Perspectives

[93:02 - 104:22]

The hosts receive and respond to voicemails from international listeners, including a 27-year-old doctor from Iraq seeking advice on balancing career aspirations with personal relationships.

• Rory: "At 27 years old, I would say choose your professional career over partner." [97:52]
• Mal: "If being a doctor in America is what you've always wanted to do, don't just settle because your partner wants to stay." [98:25]

They offer heartfelt advice, encouraging listeners to pursue their dreams while navigating personal challenges.

7. Social Issues and Critiques of Capitalism

[104:03 - 108:35]

A listener from South Africa, Malcolm, provides a critique of the hosts' discussion on capitalism versus socialism. The hosts engage in a reflective dialogue, acknowledging areas where they may have misunderstood or misrepresented economic systems.

• Mal: "Socialism has two forms, market and non-market socialism. And in market socialism, there can be a profit incentive, which is capitalism." [104:03]
• Rory: "I appreciate voicemails like that." [106:58]

The discussion underscores the importance of informed discourse and the value of listener feedback in shaping future conversations.

8. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

[112:51 - 118:43]

In the concluding segments, the hosts wrap up with more sports analysis, particularly focusing on basketball and the NBA playoffs. They share personal opinions on players, team performances, and upcoming matches.

• Rory: "Jalen Brunson deserves MVP. I'm not saying he deserves to win it, but he should be a top three MVP candidate if the Knicks finish top four." [115:17]
• Damaris: "I'm going to see Sierra." [62:38]

They also briefly touch upon Jon Stewart's return to "The Daily Show" and the dynamics of their own show hosting.

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Notable Quotes

• Rory on Privacy Invasion: "This is a direct invasion of privacy." [18:00]
• Julian on Intimacy: "It's an intimate moment." [18:31]
• Damaris on Naming Kids: "I felt very uncomfortable when I saw the pictures, and it wasn't me." [28:28]
• Mal on Capitalism and Socialism: "Socialism has two forms, market and non-market socialism. And in market socialism, there can be a profit incentive, which is capitalism." [104:03]

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Conclusion

Episode 237 of New Rory & MAL offers a blend of serious discussions on privacy, AI ethics, and personal aspirations, intertwined with lighthearted banter about sports and social issues. The hosts provide a platform for open dialogue, engaging with listener input and reflecting on contemporary societal challenges. Through candid conversations and diverse topics, the episode delivers both informative and entertaining content for its audience.

Transcript

[Rory]

What's wrong with y'all? Why you acting like such pansies? I'm so squirrel with Taylors. I'm a hurt. I couldn't sleep. I was kidney. Can you imagine?

[Mal]

I'm having a billion dollars and that happening to you.

[Rory]

I'm so sorry for anybody that's listening to this. We're talking about farts and you're eating and we shouldn't do that to you. Shut the up.

[Damaris]

No worry. While he was scheming, I was demon in the Beamer. Just demon.

[Mal]

Can't believe that I called my man cheating.

[Damaris]

So I found another way to make.

[Julian]

Him pay for it all.

[Damaris]

So I went.

[Rory]

You are ready to pause, are you?

[Mal]

Great intro.

[Rory]

Ready to pause.

[Mal]

I am. No, no, thank you. And we're back.

[Rory]

New York.

[Julian]

I love you. Good night.

[Mal]

Do you.

[Rory]

I love New York.

[Mal]

Okay, that's Cap.

[Rory]

I do love New York. I'm ready to move, but I love New York. New York is always home.

[Julian]

Where are we moving?

[Damaris]

That was gay.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you trying to live with me, bro.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, all of us.

[Julian]

But for the sake of the show, we can't live in different places.

[Rory]

Probably like two years.

[Mal]

No, he said where, though.

[Rory]

Oh, where?

[Julian]

Yes, man.

[Rory]

Puerto Rico, bro.

[Damaris]

You want to avoid them taxes so bad, Trump.

[Rory]

Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico.

[Julian]

You're really going to do Puerto Rico over Texas or Texas? I could see you hitting Texas, not Puerto Rico.

[Rory]

Fucking paradise. Every morning we talk about, I could.

[Damaris]

See mall in Puerto Rico. I moved to Puerto Rico. If we needed to move to Puerto Rico to record the pod, I'd move.

[Mal]

I would move to Puerto Rico.

[Rory]

Puerto Rico.

[Mal]

So without question, I would move to.

[Julian]

Restamp this right now.

[Rory]

Puerto rico is it what? 30. 30 minute flight Miami.

[Julian]

From Miami.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like sometimes you don't need a passport.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you don't need a passport.

[Julian]

You don't need a passport.

[Mal]

I just feel like you need to like, just in case have it.

[Julian]

Not just bring paper towel.

[Rory]

Puerto Rico is it? Yeah.

[Mal]

What. What are they exactly? They're like an affiliate. They're like a cousin of ours.

[Julian]

It's a territory terror.

[Mal]

What does that mean?

[Rory]

It means we own them.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we don't.

[Damaris]

We do.

[Julian]

We don't own them. They're a part of.

[Rory]

They're part of.

[Julian]

Not an ownership.

[Mal]

But they're not. Like, there's not a 51st state.

[Damaris]

No, no, because they're not a state.

[Julian]

So they're like D.C. it was under Spanish rule until 1987.

[Mal]

Yep, 1987.

[Rory]

That's what he said. It's 1890.

[Julian]

Third goal. Oh, sorry.

[Rory]

Hold on.

[Mal]

You know that 1987, 1897.

[Rory]

You know that glass eye he got? Get to jumping around. He can't see.

[Julian]

I'm just looking at numbers.

[Mal]

And he's got to adjust to the screen.

[Rory]

Me hit the side of your head. You know, that is like a pinball. Yeah.

[Julian]

All the history buffs in the car.

[Rory]

Julia's a idiot.

[Julian]

You got a computer in front of him.

[Rory]

1987 is the 1800s.

[Mal]

It was like, damn, 80s.

[Rory]

80S was crazy. I was six when we claimed Puerto.

[Julian]

Rico, who's a part of the Treaty of Paris?

[Mal]

We got Paris out the shit, too.

[Julian]

No, the Treaty of Paris, which ultimately ended the Spanish American War. I guess in that ruling, we were gifted. Not gift. We look.

[Rory]

Look at how the government just play, yo, give us that island. Stop playing.

[Julian]

I mean, we've been doing that.

[Mal]

We conquer land and then give it away as a gift. Like, didn't we try to give Canada to the French after they helped us out in war?

[Damaris]

Or did they give us Canada?

[Julian]

Well, I know I feel like they.

[Mal]

Showed up late to the war, but, like, helped us out and was like, yo, you could have that snowy up up there.

[Julian]

Take our hat. Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Call it Quebec.

[Julian]

There's a. There's a push.

[Damaris]

Oh, I just remembered something.

[Julian]

Montreal. For it to be more French.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Y'all know Rory looked me dead in my eyes last night and told me that Quebec will be a fire name for his son.

[Mal]

Yeah, well, first of all, add context, you said. Yeah, we were talking about Quebec. We're talking about cities that could be cool for the names of kids. And running through them.

[Rory]

You landed on Quebec.

[Mal]

I mean, it was that or Denver. Like, I didn't really know what else to do. Denver's better.

[Rory]

Actually, is a better name.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Really?

[Damaris]

There's a little boy's name.

[Mal]

I feel like my son would be destined to be white trash if his name was Denver.

[Damaris]

No, he'd probably be like, you think Quebec. Bougie.

[Julian]

Yeah, French.

[Rory]

Nice.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Getting canceled with me. Guess we're all going to Puerto Rico.

[Rory]

Puerto Rico. It is the annexation of Puerto Rico.

[Mal]

Great.

[Julian]

Play to eight. October 18, 1898. That's the official date. I just want to say the date so I don't get killed.

[Rory]

We got it, man.

[Julian]

That's it.

[Rory]

You fixed the pinball.

[Julian]

1987.

[Mal]

So you guys really don't think Quebec would be a cool name for itself?

[Rory]

Nah, fam, don't do it to your son.

[Mal]

Like, his nickname could be Beck.

[Rory]

No, that wouldn't be his Nickname.

[Julian]

It's not a bad nickname.

[Mal]

I think it's kind of like a tough name back like bacon egg, damn. Beck on his way Beck.

[Rory]

It'd probably be Q. Beck is the name of like, every, like, Bully in the 80s movie.

[Mal]

Yeah. You wouldn't be nervous if, like, you were talking to a girl. She's like, careful. My. My boyfriend Beck's on the way.

[Julian]

Their pronouns. Because it could be like, Becky.

[Rory]

I'm like. I'm like, yeah. Like, who's Beck?

[Mal]

Like, he could be Q definitely.

[Julian]

Q's cooler than back Q was, you know, that's.

[Rory]

That's given juice, you know, I mean, yeah, that was Omar Epps name.

[Mal]

But what other city names? Like, it doesn't necessarily have to be a son. Like, if, you know, Paris. Destined to be a. Can you think of cities that would ask in.

[Julian]

That just sounds Aspen.

[Mal]

Destined to be A.

[Julian]

That's pompous.

[Rory]

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's my knee. That's my niece.

[Mal]

I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

[Rory]

That's my niece's name.

[Julian]

Edit.

[Rory]

My niece's name is Aspen.

[Mal]

I didn't say that.

[Rory]

It's a S, P. See now.

[Mal]

All right, never mind.

[Julian]

So, yeah, Rel said his son's name is Milan.

[Rory]

Milan. I like.

[Mal]

I like Milan.

[Julian]

That's cool.

[Rory]

I like Milan. Milan is a nice name.

[Mal]

Trying to think if I've met him Milan before. Oh, yeah. What do you want to go with Berlin?

[Rory]

No. I mean, but why not, like, Phoenix?

[Julian]

Jay Z lied about naming his daughter Brooklyn.

[Mal]

Yeah. Beyonce. She clipped that immediately. There's too many Brooklyns now. That would have been cool at that time. Way too many kids whose parents.

[Rory]

Cody is a nice name. I'm sorry, Cody.

[Damaris]

It's not a nice name. Sorry to the.

[Mal]

Cody did what he did to you.

[Rory]

Cody's a nice you.

[Mal]

You jumped real quick and was like, nah, that name.

[Rory]

Cuz I'm thinking about if I see Cody on the application and I'm looking at it, I don't know what. What it is.

[Julian]

Rio is.

[Mal]

I didn't. I didn't even know Cody was a city. That's just a name to me.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Where's. Where's Cody at?

[Julian]

Wyoming.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Julian]

It's an Irish name.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

No, I know the name.

[Rory]

I just didn't know. You don't like it.

[Mal]

I do like it. Cody didn't hurt me the way.

[Rory]

Is this something you want to tell us? Why are you thinking about names of.

[Mal]

This wasn't Even a topic I brought up last night. I just participated in it and said Quebec.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

This all. You know, this all stemmed from a conversation we were having about Jadakiss and Styles pictures.

[Rory]

Yo.

[Mal]

My God, I forgot.

[Julian]

Were you. Yo, were you guys at the hookah spot?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

You know, only place you spoke about makes a thousand and.

[Mal]

All right. And no disrespect to Damaris's community and friends. Do you know how many people Damaris knows that named their son Jadicus?

[Damaris]

I had to call last night.

[Rory]

Didn't she tell us that on Mike?

[Mal]

Yeah, I didn't remember.

[Damaris]

Liar.

[Julian]

You know, like, four of them.

[Damaris]

I told y'all. Y'all told me I was a liar. So I started calling people last night.

[Rory]

You started calling a bunch of Jadakisses?

[Damaris]

I started calling my sister her and telling her to name these people, and she was like, oh, yeah, Jadakissa. He got a son named Jadicus. I don't lie about these things. And people be saying, wait, it's a.

[Rory]

Guy I know named Jadicus, and he named his son Jadicus?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

That's weird.

[Rory]

How old is he?

[Mal]

Jadicus isn't even named Jadicus.

[Rory]

Yeah, how old is he?

[Mal]

His name is Jason.

[Damaris]

Jadicus's name is Jason. I knew it wasn't Jada because I didn't know it was Jason.

[Mal]

I think it's Jason. I think so.

[Rory]

Yo, but wait, wait, let's get. Wait, let's get back to this, though.

[Julian]

It is Jason.

[Rory]

His name is Jadicus, and his son's name is Jadicus. His birth name is Jadicus.

[Mal]

Junior is hilarious.

[Damaris]

They're young. They're younger than me. They're young.

[Mal]

Wait, but wouldn't he be the third? Because Jadicus is the first Jadicus.

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

So your friend has to be Junior.

[Rory]

But how old is he to have a name Jadakis and then have a son named Jadis?

[Damaris]

I don't know. He has to be, like, 25, 26.

[Rory]

Oh, so his mother and father were Locks fans?

[Damaris]

Everybody's a Locks fan.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, I'm just saying that they're older.

[Mal]

There's no other way to name your kid Jadicus unless you're a Locks.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. Like that. But that's what I was getting. How old is this person? Because it would have to be the parent that named them after their favorite rapper or something like that.

[Mal]

But then if you look back, if 25, then they were, like, early on, the Locks I don't even know. Is that even Money, Power, Respect, time.

[Rory]

No, that's before money, power, respect. 95. That's before money, Power, respect.

[Mal]

They must have been there when Mary introduced them.

[Rory]

Are they from Mount Vernon? Are they from, like, where they from? Yonkers?

[Mal]

They gotta be from Yonkers.

[Damaris]

So funny. Anyway, the point. That's how we got.

[Mal]

Do they have a daughter named Mary J?

[Damaris]

That's how we got to this conversation. That's how we got to the conversation. We started talking about. Y'all are so annoying. We started talking about kids names, and I said, oh, but y'all made fun of me when I said I wanted to name my kid Nazir Carter. And that's where we. That's how we got into that whole conversation.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's a. That's a sickness name.

[Mal]

Yeah, but not like, what do you think the doctor. The doctor had to try to be nice.

[Julian]

Like, you sure?

[Mal]

What are you gonna name.

[Damaris]

Okay, that's not an ugly name. I actually like the name. I don't think that it's an ugly name if you remove it from the rapper. If you were to just hear that name. I don't mind that name.

[Julian]

That's the.

[Rory]

That if you walked in here with a little kid and was like, oh, this is Jada Kiss. I'm gonna be like, oh, okay. Like, why you didn't want to just stop at Jada?

[Mal]

Like you had kids, you know, anytime the kid walked into the room, you.

[Damaris]

Have to go, no, we actually didn't have to do that, actually.

[Mal]

Was that not a good impression of his?

[Rory]

Oh, man, it was bad. That was bad. That was J.

[Mal]

A double.

[Damaris]

That was bad.

[Rory]

But I'm just saying. No, his. No, I don't know about naming the kid Jada because that's a little weird. But I get it. If you were a lock fan.

[Julian]

I mean, do you have any names you like? Mall.

[Mal]

How do you think the rest of Wu Tang felt when Method man named his son Raekwon? Well, everybody's like, if I'm cappadon, I might feel away. Like, you have more kids.

[Damaris]

Everybody.

[Mal]

Rest of them are named after the clan.

[Damaris]

There's mad Raekwon. So that's a common name.

[Mal]

You think Method man, you don't really see.

[Rory]

You don't really meet, like new Raekwons.

[Damaris]

No, not new Raekwons, but Raekwon used.

[Rory]

To be like, every Raekwon is probably like close to being in their 30s.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But you ain't gonna meet an 18 year old ray.

[Mal]

You think Method man just stumbled upon that name. Like, that's like. If I name my son Mall and everyone's like, oh, that's really nice of you. Like, has nothing to do with Mall, then that's weird.

[Rory]

It's like.

[Damaris]

But if you named your method man.

[Mal]

Named his son after Raekwon the chef.

[Damaris]

Also, that would be weird because if you had a son named Jamal, that would just be off.

[Julian]

Yeah, that would be funny.

[Damaris]

You can't especially.

[Mal]

I mean, it got a little weird with Amara too, by the way.

[Julian]

Really? Amara tells them we didn't think she'd be that white. Yeah. Jamal is that.

[Damaris]

I mean, she didn't name her Keisha.

[Rory]

Like, so wait, you named your daughter before you saw her?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Is that weird?

[Damaris]

People come up with baby names before they.

[Mal]

I didn't like people. That's like a spot when people come.

[Rory]

Up with, like, a list of names they would choose from. But.

[Damaris]

And then when they come out, when.

[Rory]

They see them, they.

[Damaris]

They like, he should. When she came out, he should have said, ah, we're gonna go Sally.

[Rory]

Sally.

[Damaris]

We're gonna go Penelope and Sally.

[Rory]

That'll do it. She's a Sally.

[Julian]

Amara toes the line appropriately, though. I don't think it's too. You're good.

[Mal]

I. I agree. But it. For how white she looks. Sally may have been more appropriate. That's all I'm saying. Or chic.

[Rory]

Now it's gonna be funny when Amara goes to college and she's like, head of, like, the, like, diversity African American Diversity Coalition.

[Julian]

Diversity, inclusion.

[Rory]

Like, she's gonna be a redhead wearing a kufi.

[Mal]

It exists.

[Rory]

No, 100%. 100%. Because she's gonna. She's growing up in a household where it's hip hop culture, it's R B. So she's gonna be aware of all of these things. So I could definitely see her going to.

[Mal]

Uncle Jay is in the noi.

[Rory]

Like, you know what I'm saying? So she's gonna see, like, she's gonna be around a lot of this.

[Julian]

It's like when Elizabeth Warren claimed her indigenous roots and said she was a native.

[Mal]

Or. Or like when Nikki Haley just said that she was tease for. With racism when she was a kid.

[Julian]

That clip is crazy. You see that? Nikki Haley said she was bullied because she was dark. Dark skinned in school.

[Rory]

Yeah. Dark skinned.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't know if she said dark skinned per se, but she said she experienced a lot of racism growing up. Based off her skin color.

[Julian]

She said she's black.

[Rory]

She's the color of a.

[Mal]

Of Me? Yeah, like me and Sean King.

[Damaris]

But isn't she actually, she's not.

[Julian]

Well, she, she's, she's, she. She's Middle Eastern, but she intentionally tries.

[Damaris]

To look like a white man.

[Julian]

Changed her name. Her maiden name is not what she goes by. Her maiden name would actually make her sound and look more Arab.

[Mal]

Her name's not even Nikki, right?

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't even want to. It's Nim Namorada.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Nikki Haley. So she intentionally, like most journalists do, they want to be white facing so they are less threatening or most anyone in politics. So she dropped that part of her name. But now that it's convenient, she's like, yeah, no, I was teased. It's great how that works.

[Mal]

No, I'm glad she's making Americans feel seen.

[Rory]

I remember at one point I wanted to change my name.

[Mal]

To what?

[Rory]

I don't know, I just wanted to.

[Mal]

Change it like to like a God name or just. Just change your name.

[Rory]

Just wanted to change it. I didn't think of any other names. I was just like Jamal. I was like. Remember one day I was looking in the mirror, I was like, I don't look like a Jamal. Yeah, I was like, I look like a. I might have landed on like a Eric or something like that.

[Julian]

Nah, you as Eric is crazy.

[Damaris]

He's not an Eric.

[Mal]

He looks like an Eric from the night, like the 90s. Eric's look like more. Yeah, not these Erics.

[Julian]

I think mall fits Jamal not so much.

[Rory]

But that's my name.

[Julian]

Yeah, but no one calls you that.

[Mal]

Were you people call me those kids in school that like corrected the teacher with attendance when they called you Jamil?

[Rory]

No. After a while I didn't even give a fudge. I'm here.

[Damaris]

I'm here.

[Rory]

That's all. I mean, I'm just here so I don't get on.

[Julian]

People call you Mal because that happens.

[Damaris]

Oh, I hate that. And that's so.

[Mal]

It's like a pet peeve of mine. It annoys me.

[Damaris]

It annoys me really badly.

[Rory]

I mean, I don't even correct it. I just. I don't give a fuck.

[Julian]

That shit's annoying.

[Rory]

Just be like, yeah, whatever.

[Mal]

Yo, your rebrand to Eric would just be like one day you're just Eric.

[Julian]

Yeah, Rory and Eric. Yeah, New Rory and Rory and Eric.

[Rory]

New Rory and Eric. Who the fuck is Eric? Nah, that's me now, fam. Like address me as such.

[Mal]

But I mean, you never tried to do like a rebrand. You were like Jay one day.

[Rory]

No, it was always it Was always Mall J Rock. That's what it. No, I tried, like, I tried that when I was, like, 1112.

[Damaris]

What was your nickname when you were, like, 1112?

[Rory]

It was always Mall. But, like, I tried to go by, like, different variations of, like, putting a J something. It was just corny. I was Baby Rockefeller. It was just Mall. It was always Mall. That was, like. That was it. It was just always Mall.

[Mal]

Yeah. I was just never cool enough. Like, when H. The Izzo came out, I didn't become Rizzle. Like, nothing cool happened.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Rizzo is nothing.

[Mal]

No one, like, thought I was cool enough. Like, yo, you Rizzo now.

[Rory]

Yo, Rizzo. Like, running around calling yourself Rizzo. Crazy Rizzo. But I get it, though. R and O. I get it.

[Julian]

Rizo.

[Mal]

That's more of, like, an Italian.

[Julian]

His last name was Risudo. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, the National.

[Julian]

It's a very Rizo.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was. That's what he's supposed to call. Yeah.

[Mal]

And if I was younger, no one would call me Riz.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, it's.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Face.

[Rory]

What about Tiger Lily?

[Mal]

What? Face.

[Damaris]

I had a ho Ph.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. That was, like, your Twitter name.

[Damaris]

No, my. Yeah, my Twitter name and my Instagram used to be Trap Guy. Hov.

[Julian]

That's sad.

[Rory]

And then you started dating Stove God.

[Damaris]

Stop putting that up. Yo, I. I think I know that y'all make that joke, like, when you know people, like, that's not funny.

[Rory]

All right, my bad. Like, just, you know, shout out the stove. That's all God.

[Mal]

But, like, so you. You didn't trap. You're not religious. How did you land on.

[Damaris]

You didn't know what. You didn't know what I was doing?

[Mal]

Yeah, you were watching Harry Potter and rapping into your computer.

[Damaris]

When I was trapped at home. I was in my 20s. I was like. I was, like, 19. 1920.

[Rory]

When I was calling Trap God. Hov. Yeah, trap Was that MySpace?

[Damaris]

And I was on Instagram when I was 19. I'm not you.

[Mal]

Wait, wait, wait. Was that the time you were hanging out with the Crips in the Bronx? You went. All right. Yeah. You were allowed to be. You were allowed to be Trap God at that point, Mike.

[Rory]

Hanging out.

[Mal]

I'll take it back.

[Rory]

Hanging out with Crips in the Bronx is hilarious.

[Mal]

No. And she was hanging with, like, the Dirty Crips, too.

[Damaris]

Yo, are you good?

[Mal]

I'm fine. No, you not. I'm doing great.

[Rory]

I'm fine. How are you feeling today?

[Mal]

Yeah, we all had a Crip phase. It's okay.

[Damaris]

That shit crazy when they did the Mariah the sciences, though. That's wild.

[Mal]

That's how you want to change.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Fuck, yeah. Because, you know, you. You've been in that position. You know those jail calls.

[Rory]

Well, a very interesting video leaked last night. And I ain't gonna lie, when this shit hit the timeline, I was kind of like, this is nasty. But it was funny, too, at the same time. But a video leaked of Young Thug's jail visit with Mariah the Scientist, and the Internet was kind of like, mixed on their feelings about this video leaking. Some people were laughing. Some people were calling it cringe. Some people were saying it's an invasion of privacy. And I agree with that. I think this is a direct invasion of privacy.

[Mal]

This whole case has been a fucking circus.

[Rory]

Yeah, it is.

[Mal]

The entire thing is a circus.

[Rory]

Yeah, but how does this. How does this. How does this get out?

[Julian]

Someone sells it.

[Mal]

How did the Gunner video get out? And nothing has happened since.

[Rory]

Yeah, but these.

[Mal]

But no one was reprimanded. That was illegal.

[Rory]

Yeah, but these videos, if you are. If you have somebody that calls you from jail, you know, whether it's Jpay or Home Wave or whatever, one of these apps, it does tell you that this is being recorded. So you see that up front. They let you know that this is being monitored and recorded.

[Mal]

Yeah, but not for public consumption.

[Rory]

This. That doesn't mean it's supposed to get out. Now.

[Mal]

They could use my videos password.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, they may use videos to, you know, go through somebody's cases at trial, and they feel like there may be some incriminating evidence that they're communicating, which is stupid if people are doing that.

[Mal]

But someone should have told Tory Lanez.

[Rory]

Either way, this video recorded, this video released and. Or leaked, and it's just. I don't know. It's shit like this. We should just not. We should not be seeing shit like this. Like, it's so weird that we see this type of shit now and we talk about it and then it's like a forgotten thing. But this is a crazy, disrespectful thing to leak. And it's like, it's an invasion of privacy. Like, this is a man and his lady and he's locked up. Like, this should not be for us to view publicly.

[Julian]

It's an intimate moment.

[Damaris]

So some people are saying there's a chance that they might have leaked it.

[Rory]

How?

[Julian]

They can't. Who's they?

[Rory]

How can they leak it?

[Damaris]

The same way anybody else can leak it. I'm not saying that they did. I don't believe that they did.

[Rory]

Mariah and Young Thug leaked this.

[Julian]

How would they.

[Rory]

Can't even record that. Yeah, you can't record that.

[Damaris]

No, not that they're recording it. That they paid for the recording. Somebody paid for the recording. So y'all don't think that whoever paid.

[Rory]

For somebody in the corrections department.

[Julian]

That's what I. Whoever runs the security.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

Probably took it and sold it to a blog saying that if you.

[Mal]

People that bought it was Thug's team.

[Damaris]

Yes. If you can sell it to a blog, you can also sell it to their team. I'm not saying that that's what happened. That's what happened, but I'm saying that people are saying that that could be.

[Rory]

No, I'm not jacking it.

[Mal]

I. I could see a world where that exists. But why? Like, judging by the clip, what would. How would that help the case? I can see.

[Damaris]

Not for the case, but for, like.

[Mal]

Thug is literally just saying, yeah, yeah. Like, if. I can't see why they would buy it.

[Rory]

If he was rapping, if he was spitting some bars and she was singing the hook like they was working on a record. FaceTime together so much, then it's like, oh, let's release that. Because it's kind of like, okay.

[Mal]

Or if he was sitting there, like, damn near scripted. Like, I just want to be a positive member of society. Like, I could see them trying to pull a play like that.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But just to be like, oh, you like your Christmas gift? Yo, am I your baby?

[Rory]

Yeah. He looked like he was mad that the money he spent on that jewelry. It ain't looked like those Cubans look small. It wasn't as big as he. As much as he paid. He was like, yo, hold up. Like, she was trying to move past that heavy. I thought it was gonna be a little bigger than that. Yeah. Like, I paid a grip for that. Like, that ain't where the rest of that money went.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And she. She, as a great girlfriend, like, tried. She's like, I'm very appreciative. Like, what do you think my rap name should be? Nah, for real. Let me see that one more time. Like, hold that up in the light.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, you look like a rapper. I thought they was gonna be a little bigger than that. And I'm like, okay. Like, we. I shouldn't be seeing this. Like, I should not be viewing this. And then, you know, the whole, you.

[Julian]

Know, daddy and freaky at the end.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, but, you know, that's what.

[Mal]

He's in jail.

[Julian]

No, I'm not Saying what? The conversation's totally normal.

[Mal]

I feel like, kick it up a notch.

[Damaris]

That's what mall Rory.

[Mal]

I kick it up a notch. He's a little freakier.

[Julian]

Video did cut at a pretty convenient.

[Rory]

It looked like it was.

[Julian]

That's a good.

[Rory]

Like, it was edited. Yeah, it looked like it was, like, jumping to different parts of the conversation.

[Mal]

Tune into the next call.

[Damaris]

I feel like that's. People were on her ass, like, saying, that's cringe. And this is that. What's cringe is us getting a look into people's lives. When you listen to couples talk in private, it's cringe if you're not a part of the couple. It just is.

[Mal]

And y'all haven't seen each other. The holidays just passed. Like, it's talking about Christmas gifts.

[Damaris]

Please don't leak how I talk to my man, please.

[Rory]

Yeah, we don't want to hear that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Sound like kissing Styles going back and forth. Nobody wants to hear that.

[Mal]

It's with Jadicus.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Jadakiss Jr Jr Yo.

[Rory]

Jadakiss III. The third kiss.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

The last kiss.

[Rory]

The last kiss.

[Julian]

Well, there was support from Drake and Meek Mill. They both commented on this, saying, Drake, you know, saying, this is jail misconduct. You're dragging this talented man. Pretty much they're making cases to throw out the case. And the people that obviously leaked it should be reprimanded.

[Rory]

I mean, it's definitely an invasion of privacy. It's definitely something that we as the general public should not be privy to and should not see. But again, in 2024, does privacy still exist? I don't think so. I think more so now than ever. It's looked at as you being sneaky or weird when you're trying to be private and keep things, you know, intimate things to yourself and your partner. But what do I know? I'm just an old nigga on the Internet.

[Mal]

Go back to Drake's response real quick.

[Damaris]

Meek is an idiot. I just. I would like to. Meek sat up there and tweeted, oh, this is a top tier lawsuit. I shouldn't be privy to this. I shouldn't be able to see this. Why would you retweet it to your millions of followers? Somebody let me know.

[Rory]

Oh, he retweeted it and said that?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Motivational purposes only. It's the motivator.

[Damaris]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Mal]

Like, I think Drake's is worse. Free Young Thug. I think he's completely innocent. But continue to bring light to Atlanta. Did you guys read the charges?

[Julian]

A minute yeah, that last line was crazy.

[Rory]

That's why, like, one of my.

[Mal]

He's innocent and free him. I'm just talking about the court documents. There was no light in Atlanta at all.

[Rory]

One of my home was very dark. We always talk about like, that, though. Like, he's locked up. And I've never, like, say, yo, free you. Hey, you did that.

[Mal]

They got the right.

[Rory]

We have this understanding over us. He's like, I'm sit down for what I did. You know what I'm saying? But I'm. He, like, it's corny if y'all are yo, free you. Like, I did what I did. That's why I'm in here.

[Mal]

I need to suffer these consequences.

[Julian]

A lot of people get conflated with, like, the Drakes and the Migs. Like, well, he's nice to me, so therefore, he's positive to the city. Like, yes, someone can be great to you, but be a monster to a whole nother community.

[Rory]

Well, I think. I think more so. What it is is just the case has been such a circus, and, you know, it's like, at this point, they're just reaching and grabbing, grabbing at anything, hoping that something sticks. And then it's becoming. You know, things like this hit the Internet. So it's just like. I think somebody like Drake is just like, all right, fam. Like, how serious is this shit? All the shit that's going on in the courtroom that we're seeing now, this type of shit, you know, intimate videos with his call with his girlfriend is now being leaked to the public. It's like, obviously y'all trying to, you know, make a clown or a clown show or, you know, trying to make a circus or people laughing at him and this, that. And third, when it's like, okay, he's still. He's in jail facing some serious charges. But, like, everything we see coming out of the courtroom seems to be a joke.

[Mal]

So I'm just happy they leaked the call, like, with his actual girl. Because imagine have to deal with a leak and, like, it's not your girl.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, that's. That could have been bad.

[Mal]

I got to deal with that.

[Rory]

Because now you got to deal with that inside of jail. Like, yeah, no, that's bad.

[Mal]

Henry Hill, when his side chick came in.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

I can't stop people from visiting me. I mean, you kind of can.

[Rory]

You can put her name on the list, like, the block list. Like, yo, don't let her in here.

[Mal]

You go back to your cell. You don't have to sit here but, yeah, this. This was nasty. And I'm sure nothing's gonna happen. No one's gonna be reprimanded. Same thing with the Gunner thing. Like, I know we all ran and debated if he was a snitch, but no one brought up, like, hey, I think this is illegal and someone should be prosecuted for leaking this tape. Like, this is not allowed. Yeah, now you're actually putting someone at risk to be harmed because of this. Like, isn't that the whole point?

[Julian]

Never mind.

[Mal]

Forget it. Anyways, Taylor Swift was throwing it back at the Chiefs game.

[Rory]

Stop.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

What? No, Taylor Swift did what? She.

[Damaris]

She did not do that.

[Julian]

Nothing of the sort.

[Mal]

I saw the photo.

[Damaris]

That's not. It was AI.

[Julian]

It's a deep fake.

[Mal]

Oh, she looked great. I. Oh, you thought she put on.

[Damaris]

Spraying her ass cheeks with me painted on it.

[Mal]

That.

[Damaris]

That was her.

[Mal]

Yeah. She's liberating. So sexually free.

[Rory]

All right. I don't know what y'all talking about.

[Julian]

So mall. Remember when Trump. These photos came out when Trump was getting originally charged. These were all debunked and they were, you know, it was deep fakes. Whatever. Photos of Taylor Swift are circulating after the Chiefs game made from the same company, and her team worked tirelessly because they are damn near impossible to find online. But it was very inappropriate. Photos of Taylor Swift, like, painted in red, getting, like, double teamed, whatever. It was like, very sexually explicit photos that were all deep fakes, I believe from the same company. So going into the invasion of privacy and overstepping. You know what? Kind of echoing what we were talking about with Doug and Mariah the scientist, this is another thing where Taylor Swift woke up and was thrown into, like, this shitstorm. And all of her fans, which are obviously younger women, we're seeing her in all these, like, disgusting compromising positions and getting. It was just weird.

[Mal]

I saw the photos. They looked fake. Like, yeah, I mean, I get it. And it's up. And people shouldn't be able to do that with AI. And it's just going to get worse. But, like, they clearly looked fake to me.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I feel like a young person. I know we have to protect the children because they are a future, but I feel like a young person knew that was fake, too.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, young people. I feel like young people knew that they were fake, but it's not even about that. It's. Somebody put, like, it feels like she's being, like, sexually assaulted on the Internet. Like, that's what it feels like.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Like, if you woke up, like, you're These are sexual pictures of me. Even if they aren't real pictures, these are pictures of somebody spreading my ass apart. Like, this is. That's crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if it's not you.

[Damaris]

But that's.

[Mal]

Whoa. First of all, where the were you guys when all the barbs Photoshopped me on a Harry Potter stick and the broom going up my ass? Where were you guys? Where were you guys for those photos?

[Julian]

Oh, that wasn't.

[Mal]

No one was there to. Where was my shoulder to cry?

[Julian]

I wasn't a fake. They just hacked your icloud.

[Rory]

I was pressing retweet. I was hitting retweet on every morning.

[Mal]

I was like, God, these barbs are so good at Photoshop.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, I understand, you know, Taylor feeling disrespected by it, but, I mean, it's not you. Like, who gives a fuck?

[Julian]

Yeah, but it's not. It's not.

[Damaris]

Because that's. Because it's not you. They didn't Photoshop a picture of you with your ass spread apart.

[Mal]

I'm telling you, it happened to me. Everyone's ignoring that. This is happening.

[Julian]

Like, Rory, that's one thing. This is. We're talking to. No, I just think it's not. Obviously, the images themselves weren't fake, and I. Yes, I'll. Obviously, we can assume most people that saw them knew they weren't real, but it's just seeing someone, especially her, and knowing the target audience she has in such, like, compromising positions and just such graphic detail.

[Mal]

What about my target audience?

[Julian]

You were good.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

I felt very uncomfortable when I. When I saw the pictures, and it wasn't me, so I could only imagine.

[Mal]

I don't need to. I don't need to imagine.

[Damaris]

Yes. Yes, I did.

[Rory]

Of these Taylor Swift photos, you felt uncomfortable.

[Damaris]

I did.

[Julian]

I did. Well, you know, it's a big deal if I felt.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it was weird. I don't give a weird.

[Rory]

I can understand you feeling away.

[Mal]

Okay. I just want to make sure everyone. Go ahead.

[Julian]

Rory, if this was you, Rory, put yourself in this position, well, how would you feel? Someone's making deep fake photos and putting you in with a broomstick. Say in your. How would you feel?

[Mal]

I didn't feel good, and no one was here to help me.

[Julian]

Even now, I feel bad for her because this is such an unwarranted. It's just unnecessary. And it was like, I would feel.

[Rory]

Bad for her if her real nudes were leaked. Oh, for sure. Then I would be like, dan, that's up. This is not her. Like, what the is there to feel bad about? It's not her.

[Julian]

Damn, she got a good team. I can't. Yeah, I can't find them anywhere.

[Damaris]

I just saw them earlier too.

[Julian]

They went viral immediately and they're already off the Internet.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Do we really need to feel bad for Taylor Swift right now?

[Rory]

No, that's what I'm saying. The Maris ain't feel feel bad.

[Damaris]

I did too. They made me uncomfortable. They. When I saw those pictures, they really made me uncomfortable. So I could only imagine if they.

[Rory]

Were me, but it wasn't Taylor Swift.

[Damaris]

But it's not. You're like. The point. Like, you're just. You don't. You don't. With the.

[Rory]

It's not her. They're fake photos.

[Julian]

Okay, but you guys are no friends to rumors.

[Rory]

If I get robbed and I'm wearing fake jewelry, I don't feel bad. That ain't real.

[Damaris]

What the.

[Rory]

Like, what the is gonna feel bad.

[Mal]

About until they come back and beat you up for having fake jewelry?

[Rory]

No, that ain't gonna happen. But I'm just saying, like, if I had on fake and somebody took it from me, I was like, oh, man, they took.

[Damaris]

Because I'm not in a. Because if putting myself out to the world sexually don't do it for me. Are you seeing what I'm saying?

[Rory]

Right. But the thing is, these are fake photos.

[Damaris]

It doesn't matter, because these were really.

[Rory]

Intimate photos that she was sending, like Travis or something, and they had that. Then that's something to be like, damn, that's fucked up.

[Damaris]

When people are seeing the photos, it is eliciting a sexual response from them, and I did not sign up for that. Are you seeing what I'm saying? I did not sign up for people to be jacking off. It doesn't matter.

[Rory]

It's fake.

[Damaris]

Sign up for people to be jacking off to the pictures that they're saying, is my ass spread open. I didn't sign up for that.

[Rory]

I understand that part, but what I'm saying is these pictures are not your real person, your real body. That's not you. These are fake images.

[Damaris]

You don't understand. And that's like.

[Rory]

I get it, but it's like, what is there to feel bad about? It's not you. These are fake.

[Damaris]

Well, do you think that this is a danger and do you think that this should be? Because Ice Cube. I don't think this is to Ice Cube. And he was really upset about it too.

[Rory]

I don't think this is a danger, but I do Think that AI, like when they start doing things like generating videos, fake videos of the president addressing, you know, the nation and shit like that. That's not a real. Then that's when shit is scary and dangerous. But a fucking fake news of a celebrity.

[Mal]

I feel like that porn sites forever.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like there's no danger in that. That shit is. I get. I was disrespectful. Like, yo, that's not me. What the fuck? But to say, oh, my God, I feel bad. Oh, my God, I'm hurt. Oh, I feel like I'm being sexually assaulted. What? It's not you. That's fake. That's fake. That's not who you are. That's not you. That somebody put that together. AI generated shit. Cool. We understand how technology. But that's not you. So it's nothing to feel bad. It's weird. But it's like, that ain't me.

[Mal]

As much as I like to argue, I agree with them. Like, you're the biggest star in the world and someone made a fake photo. For me, though, if people, like really generated what looked like actual nudes, like she was holding up the camera in her hotel bathroom naked, and it really looks like a nude, then I would be like, all right, that's kind of fucked up. Even if it's fake, people are really going to think this is real.

[Damaris]

But that's where.

[Mal]

Maybe I didn't see all the photos, but the two I saw were like, this is.

[Damaris]

But that's the photo. It's like moving on from those photos. That's where the conversation. When I say fans can even go on the. That this can become a danger because like you said, if you think that's not going to happen and very soon it is.

[Mal]

So I. Yes. That's why I think AI is dangerous in this case with this one. No, but I think they're capable of doing what I just explained, of making nudes that we'd really think were real or sex tapes that we really think are real. But this was like, like, have you ever gone on a porn site and got a pop up and it's like a celebrity's face on.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

A naked body and it's like, I don't know.

[Julian]

But this. This different. This went viral immediately because it was Taylor Swift. I refreshed Twitter. No, someone. There's someone was behind this that spread this, like wildfire. This wasn't just a. Because it happened. It came and went so fast. They were on the Internet for no longer than nine hours.

[Rory]

It was Jason Kelsey.

[Mal]

It's true.

[Damaris]

Why would you put that on his jacket?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Damaris]

That's fucked up.

[Mal]

Because he's the new. We said he's the new. Taylor Sweats. He's trying to get her out the paint.

[Julian]

I think, to Rory's point, Taylor Swift is so famous and she's been dragged through the mud for every day she can find something that someone's criticizing her for. I think this, and this is probably a. Not a angle people would expect from me. I feel bad for her fans because they're young, they're kids. More often than not, her fans are the little girls that really look up to her and they're going to see the. They follow everything. Taylor. They're going to see these photos. And they're probably at that age where they. They don't understand that these are fake. That's who I feel bad for. Taylor, obviously.

[Rory]

How old are Taylor Swift fans?

[Julian]

Little girls, like, she still.

[Damaris]

She's still. Her and Nikki have that in common. They collect younger fans every year.

[Rory]

Okay, so girls like my 10 year.

[Julian]

Old, I'm thinking about if my niece saw these, I don't think she'd be like, oh, yeah, those are fake. She's 10. Yeah, I would. You would have to, as a parent, sit her down and explain, hey, this. And that sucks, because why the should I have to do that? These are ridiculous.

[Mal]

All right? You have to do 10 minutes of parroting. Like, what about the whole Internet? It's. You have to explain. Of course you're gonna have to explain these things to your kids. They're gonna be on the Internet one day. Taylor Swift, fake nudes that don't even look like.

[Julian]

But now they're not gonna look at someone that they idolize and look up to in the same light again. It's always like, there's those kids. It's like, it's because they're kids.

[Damaris]

They don't have the brain of an adult where they can compartmentalize and say, oh, this.

[Mal]

No. And I agree. So what do you think you're going to look. They're not going to look up to where they're like, oh, look at this whore. Like, they're not going to understand what's going on, Swift.

[Julian]

They'll start thinking of these images in those photos, which sucks because now it's changing their perception.

[Rory]

I get, I get what you're saying. It changes the perception because they seen fake images of somebody that they look up to and it's like, but these are sexual. Even if, no matter if it's Tell us not. These are sexual images. So yeah, obviously for kids it's, it's a bit much but I mean at the end of the day your parents tell you like, yo, that was a fake. It's. You think these 11 year old, 10, 11, 12 year old kids don't know what AI is? They absolutely do know what AI is. They know what fake images are on the Internet. They know what all of this shit is like. So I don't, I mean it's sexually explicit, sexually suggestive, so that's a lot for kids. But you don't have to do much explaining to kids that these are fake and this is AI. Kids know what AI is.

[Julian]

I think you're giving kids a lot of slack.

[Rory]

11 year olds, they. My nephew was 2 and knew how to unlock a pat of iPhone before he could tie a shoe.

[Julian]

That's different. I mean people were kid.

[Rory]

These kids grew up with the Internet and technology.

[Julian]

Election was decided because of like fake news and misrepresentation of stories. Like we're, we act like all adults are like they're, they get it. We can decipher what's fake, what's real. The whole country, every day is split on this is real, this is fake. That's the base of our news cycle. People are, we're expecting kids to be like, oh yeah, now you got it. Did you know that's not her?

[Rory]

People said your parents can explain that to you.

[Damaris]

You think these.

[Rory]

I get how it fucks up a kid seeing sexually suggestive photos. I get that part of it.

[Damaris]

But you think they're running to their parents and saying, oh, hey guys, I saw these sexually explicit photos. They're not doing that. Kids are not doing that. When you see sexual stuff even like when you was a kid and you saw sexual stuff in movies, you didn't run to your parents to tell you to say that you saw it. You showed your friends and stupid shit.

[Julian]

Like, I ran upstairs.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

Developing, developing brain.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So you think today was the first day that a 10 year old saw an explicit image?

[Damaris]

No, it's not about.

[Mal]

See now, today's the day.

[Damaris]

No, you're being. It's not about.

[Mal]

They just watched the Lil Nas X video last week.

[Rory]

It's their hero. It's their hero. It's like when you see Superman get beat up.

[Mal]

I've never seen that.

[Damaris]

If they see, if they come across porn on their timeline, they might look at it, snigger and show their friends, whatever. Or they keep scrolling like. But if they see their hero ass naked on Their screen, they're going to stop and that's going to be burned in their brain a little bit longer than if it's a stranger.

[Mal]

That's not true. I was a Blue Cantrell fan before and after. At that age.

[Julian]

I don't even get the joke. What happened? Catch me up to speed.

[Rory]

Yo, let me. Hold on, let me. This is a one on one. Yo, how was that on your brain? Like, how did you think about Blue Can't?

[Damaris]

How was that?

[Rory]

How was that something?

[Mal]

I was trying to think when I was younger when someone's nudes leaked and that was the only person I could think of.

[Damaris]

What's wrong with him?

[Mal]

Yo, I think I was like 11.

[Damaris]

But how.

[Mal]

No way.

[Rory]

You was 11 when I was like, how. How old were you when Blue Cantrell did the. She did Playboy, right? I think she did Playboy.

[Mal]

I think so Something leaked. I just remember being young and my friend showing me Blue Cantrell naked and I was like, my hero. Also never listen.

[Rory]

Blue Cantrell is your hero? That's fucking insane.

[Julian]

She did Playboy. That's a job. Like she signed up for that.

[Mal]

But no, I think. Didn't her nudes leak before she did Playboy and like she just said fuck it. Like, I might as well. At this point.

[Rory]

I forgot how that happened.

[Mal]

I could be misremembering, but it's just.

[Rory]

Funny that you just had Blue Cantrell's name on your head like that. That's fucking hilarious.

[Mal]

I couldn't think of any.

[Rory]

Y'all don't even know who Blue Cantrell is.

[Damaris]

I know, exactly. There goes the things we used to say. Okay, there goes the time.

[Rory]

Beau.

[Mal]

My hero.

[Rory]

My hero. Oh, crushed. That's hilarious.

[Mal]

When I saw her.

[Damaris]

Now play with me. You don't know who blew it.

[Julian]

I saw her nipple.

[Mal]

But I guess I'm just saying I feel. What you guys. I get the point. But you guys are also treating 10 year olds like 10 year olds. Like, let's just like stuffy.

[Rory]

Let's just put it on the table.

[Mal]

Republicans. Like, yeah, it's 11. Oh, Taylor, I can never like your music.

[Damaris]

When he said 10, I. He was actually being generous. I was thinking about the fact the six year old.

[Julian]

There's younger ones. Five year olds, kids. Yeah, 10. I mean, 10's third grade.

[Mal]

This hit YouTube. Kids like, what? Where did you guys think this was?

[Julian]

Just online.

[Mal]

It was.

[Julian]

It was extremely viral. I don't follow anything Terror Swift related. I only see her when it's like.

[Rory]

Yeah, but a 6 year old kid 6 year olds and 7 year olds shouldn't be on Twitter or Instagram. But they are like where did you. So where would kids see this at?

[Julian]

It would just pop up. It was the only thing. I don't follow any of these.

[Mal]

If your 6 year old has a phone with wi fi and social media, they deserve to see the Taylor Swift naked photos. Yeah, you're a terrible parent. Your kid deserves it.

[Damaris]

That's okay. Hold on, let's. I want to circulate.

[Mal]

A six year old with a. Amara.

[Julian]

Literally has an iPad and the only.

[Mal]

Thing on there she doesn't have.

[Rory]

She doesn't have Instagram or Twitter.

[Damaris]

But that's not what he said. He said if you are a 6 year old. If your 6 year old has WI fi and a phone with Internet, you are a bad parent. That is what Rory just said.

[Mal]

With social media.

[Rory]

I'm thinking with social media though that.

[Mal]

Was a big thing I said with social media. But a six year old having their own phone to scroll through Instagram.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah, of course.

[Julian]

Yeah. But there's.

[Mal]

Now I'm crazy for saying that's bad.

[Julian]

Parents give a kid a device and they can in turn do. They can figure out the parental kids aren't. If you're going to die on this hill. Kids are much smarter than they are with technology for sure. So if you give a kid I Apple device with WI fi and you're like, no Instagram. They'll get Instagram somehow.

[Mal]

I agree. And now further proving my point from before that they've seen crazier than a fake photo of Taylor Swift naked.

[Rory]

It. Yeah.

[Mal]

If they can do that. They have seen some wild bonded shit happen.

[Rory]

If they seen. If they have access to Twitter at 6random. They've seen Ms. B. Nasty before.

[Julian]

They've seen Taylor Swift be nasty means nothing to them.

[Rory]

If I was six years old and I opened up Twitter and saw Ms. B. Nasty, my life, my life would change.

[Damaris]

No, you would just be like, why is this lady peeing on herself?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, my life would change.

[Mal]

They had.

[Rory]

I would have questions.

[Mal]

Ice Spice twerk in the bread aisle. She has put her cheeks all over the turkey and ham at the deli. So a Taylor Swift image is where they're gonna be like, whoa.

[Julian]

Yeah. Because that's the. That's the behavior that Ice Spice displays.

[Mal]

Go, go. Pull up, pull up the Ice Spice and Taylor Swift video. That one screen image of their bodies and shit. That's fucking AI. No difference between that and the photos that you're in.

[Damaris]

That's Rory, you being hot. Take Hannah right now.

[Mal]

I take hand is hilarious. And I'm really not trying to be.

[Julian]

I don't know, man.

[Mal]

No, the one when they're side by side.

[Julian]

I know. And they put the BBL on tape.

[Mal]

Then. Then go back to the Google image.

[Julian]

The bbl.

[Mal]

They did put the bbl.

[Julian]

They put the BBL on Taylor. They swapped. What they did is they swapped it. They gave Ice Spice Taylor's ass, and they.

[Mal]

Okay, so we all know that image. We can't find it now, but I'm pretty sure everyone knows what we're talking about. Go back to that one screenshot that you have of the Taylor Swift AI shit.

[Julian]

Oh, I can't find it.

[Mal]

Oh, you had it before? Yeah, it's her laying down with her ass up. It's the same thing. They can handle the Ice Spice video, but they can't handle Taylor.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, I think y'all are putting too much on this.

[Mal]

All right, I guess it being a little Bill O'Reilly right now. That's all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

I just think that it's about the character and that I need some restrictions asap.

[Rory]

Oh, no, the Internet needs some restrictions. Not just AI, the Internet.

[Damaris]

I told y'all the other day, I'm tired of all the sexual on the Internet, of everything being so sexualized.

[Julian]

It's funny, when these photos came out, I was reminded of that. I thought of when Demera said that.

[Mal]

And by the way, Amara does not have an iPad. I have an iPad that I let Amara use. Oh, she doesn't have any money.

[Julian]

That's her iPad.

[Mal]

No, that's my pink case.

[Julian]

Yeah, your Styrofoam.

[Rory]

In case.

[Mal]

And first of all, the only thing on there is rain noises and YouTube kids.

[Damaris]

So when do you think you're gonna let.

[Mal]

And you have to tap it three times and put the. It's the worst. I can never even get into that thing.

[Damaris]

So when are you gonna get a Mara phone?

[Rory]

Yeah, a phone.

[Julian]

Yeah, my niece just got an apple watch. She's 10. No cellular capabilities, but it has WI fi.

[Damaris]

I got my first phone when I was a 10. 11.

[Julian]

I did not.

[Mal]

Amara can go in to the principal's office area, dial 9, and then my phone number, and I'll come pick her up.

[Damaris]

Cap, that's. Cap, you capping.

[Julian]

Wait till she goes to that rich ass.

[Rory]

I think. I think, like, six. Seven is.

[Julian]

Nah, wait till she goes to that rich school phone.

[Mal]

Like with this Rory.

[Damaris]

Cellular Rory, if you got a tablet, if you think that your child is gonna go to school and you're not gonna know exactly which not be able to get in touch with your child whenever the you want to. You're bugging out.

[Mal]

Oh no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna put a geotag like somewhere.

[Julian]

You put an air tag in her head or something.

[Mal]

I'm gonna clip an air tag.

[Julian]

Yeah. I think it's less.

[Mal]

That'll be your first piercing.

[Julian]

I think Amara is going to go to one of these very well off schools here in Manhattan.

[Mal]

I already looked at avenues. Can't afford it.

[Julian]

The next tier under that is just as nice and those kids are just as spoiled. And they will come into class first day with a iPhone, iPad, all that. And Amar's gonna be like, where's mine? And then you're gonna have to make that decision as a parent. Is it better for her to have these things and be like everybody else? Or do you do the ten toes thing, stand on business, but you don't need that. Dial 9 and then she'll be the kid that's aunt left out and looked at in a different light because she doesn't have the device.

[Rory]

I think it's almost impossible.

[Mal]

So my daughter won't be the one in the corner looking at the Taylor Swift nudes on her device. I thought that's. No, I. I thought that was the better thing.

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

So how am I a bad parent? I'm doing what you guys wanted.

[Julian]

Picking up the Maris's point. You're going to fold and get her these things. Because everyone should be around 6 years old.

[Damaris]

I don't even care about whatever everybody else is doing. If Amara is taking public transportation in New York City, she's not going to.

[Mal]

Do at six years old.

[Damaris]

We're not talking about six, five years old. That's not what I'm talking about. I said what age will you get her a phone?

[Mal]

And then immediately you guys went to six years old. I would say six.

[Rory]

Seven is a good year. Is a good age.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

I think that's insane.

[Rory]

You can restrict. You can restrict actions on the phone. It could just literally.

[Julian]

Does a six year old need a phone for.

[Rory]

What do you mean I'm with. To call your mom, to call your dad, to call 911 like 6 weeks. 6 and 7 is not 6 year.

[Julian]

Old doing without you at school.

[Rory]

On the school when every adult or.

[Julian]

Parent there has a phone.

[Rory]

But I'm just saying like you what's wrong with a kid having a phone to be able to call you or call.

[Damaris]

He didn't say iPhone. It doesn't have to be iPhone. You can get them just a phone. Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, so if I get Amara a flip phone, she's. The kids won't make fun of her. And this scenario you guys are talking about.

[Damaris]

I don't care about kids making better off not having her ass four tough so that she don't care who make fun of her. I'm talking about for her safety breakdown.

[Rory]

It's not as. It's not as crazy for kids, young kids to have these phones. They're learning. They're literally in school learning on iPad.

[Mal]

I got mine my freshman year of high school, I think. Or.

[Rory]

But it's a different time.

[Damaris]

Oh, wait.

[Mal]

I was about to say. I know things have changed drastically, but me getting a phone at 13, 14. I don't think it's changed so drastically that a five year old needs a cell phone phone.

[Julian]

I'm with. That's.

[Mal]

That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, but you could.

[Mal]

I got my first iPhone and I think 10 is. I'm the most liberal parent ever. I think I'm going crazy.

[Julian]

I got my first iPhone when I was in college. I had all the flip phone things. I never had a black.

[Rory]

If you think that you're not gonna get your daughter a phone until she's 10, you're crazy. You're not being religious.

[Damaris]

It's not. Yeah, you're not.

[Mal]

I could see a phone that like doesn't have cellular. This she would do on an iPad. You can smaller form.

[Rory]

You can restrict the phone to only do certain activities after certain times. You could cut it off, shut it down during school hours only, like right after school. Things like that. Like it's a bunch of restrictions you can put on the phone.

[Damaris]

She gonna jailbreak it when she's seven years old and on a school bus. You're gonna want to have your kid be able to call you, period. You're saying all the adults around her all this. I'm telling you, you are going to want to know whose daughter is in New York City.

[Rory]

Adults steal kids. They touch kids. Exactly.

[Damaris]

You're going to want your daughter to be able to contact you whenever she needs to contact you.

[Julian]

Right.

[Mal]

So I should add a phone is what you're saying.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Father O'Malley wouldn't have been able to.

[Mal]

Play hi if I would have texted my mom. Hey, everything would have changed.

[Rory]

While O'Malley's trying to play hide the marbles again.

[Mal]

What emojis would I have sent my mom during that experience?

[Rory]

You Know the Father, the. The. The. The praying hands, the priest and the marbles.

[Julian]

The big eyes with the praying hands and, like, the. The guy doing this, like, the. No symbol.

[Mal]

And then a sack of marbles, an eggplant emoji.

[Julian]

The squirt. The water.

[Damaris]

Are you okay?

[Rory]

Yeah, I see. I didn't go that far. I didn't go that far.

[Julian]

He said the eggplant.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you said the squirt emoji. Like, come on. I mean, that's sick.

[Damaris]

And it's also not the squirt.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm saying O'Malley, he's the one. Yeah, he's the one squirted. Well, he would do this. This emoji.

[Rory]

Holy water.

[Damaris]

It's just a drip.

[Mal]

No, we know what the emoji looks like. I don't need you to show.

[Julian]

Yeah, this. This is. Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

You're traumatizing him. Stop.

[Rory]

Trauma.

[Mal]

It wasn't a priest. I don't know why we always go down this.

[Rory]

You started funny, yo.

[Mal]

Somewhere there is a Father O'Malley that, of course, listens to this podcast, and it's like, why they keep.

[Rory]

Why they keep putting that on my jacket. On my robe. Don't put that on my robe.

[Julian]

On my robe is hilarious.

[Mal]

That's how you guys on Micart off when. This is how funny my dad is and how insensitive. Instead of asking me, like, what happened? Or is everything okay? Why would you put that on Father O'Neill?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you told us that. That's funny.

[Mal]

I think you don't want to ask me what happened.

[Julian]

You don't care about the actual.

[Rory]

That's such a dad. Like, that's like a dad question.

[Damaris]

Why would you.

[Mal]

Father O'Neill was a great guy. Anyways. Yeah, it's fine. I'll push his corpse through the airport.

[Damaris]

See?

[Julian]

All right, so. Okay, now go ahead, carry transition. Carry that transition, Rory, Go ahead.

[Mal]

I saw a clip on my timeline while I was browsing the Internet trying to escape Taylor's nudes for ruining my image of her. And I forgot the name of the podcast, but there was two women talking about a family had a grandparent with them traveling, and the grandparent died in the airport while they were in the wheelchair. And no one really checked on the grandparent. Thought they was taking a little, you know, cat Napoleon. Sometimes grandparents just be like this, dead. And pushed her through TSA to the terminal onto the plane, and she was dead the entire time, so.

[Rory]

But, I mean, they had to find out once they got on the plane because she has to get out of the wheelchair. Yeah, okay.

[Mal]

That's when they. They pushed a corpse through the food court.

[Rory]

I mean, I could see that. That's not. See, that could happen, though. I understand how that happens. Like you said, you pushing your grandmother, grandfather, and thinking that they just dozed off, went to sleep. Like, I could see that happening.

[Damaris]

Her head wasn't, like, loose, though, like, patting down.

[Rory]

They said the TSA agent patted the corpse down. Like, when they went through. Now, that's. Come on. Like, that's like, all right. I mean, somebody. Somebody don't wake you up. Like, you're touching somebody, and they don't move. Like, it's like, something may be wrong here. I get. Your grandparent may be tired, but, like, everybody's gonna wake up when they go through tsa. Like, nobody's that tired. I mean, so that should have been like. That's not the corpse. See?

[Julian]

See?

[Rory]

You see how people on the Internet play stupid? That's not. That wasn't the corpse.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

Come on, man.

[Julian]

I'm trying to find.

[Rory]

It was some. It was some corpse that looked like they got it out the Thriller video. We not.

[Damaris]

Wait, let me see. Let me see. Let me see.

[Rory]

Come on.

[Julian]

That's what they did. This is a older story. This is a prop from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie that they were. Had. I guess, had to transport. Yeah, obviously, it didn't look like.

[Rory]

That's stupid, that. No, that's ridiculous. Nobody thought that gentleman was alive.

[Mal]

Well, I guess I'll ask you this question, you guys. Do you guys go on the trip?

[Julian]

Where are they going?

[Mal]

Hard sometimes to get vacation time. Maybe they saved up. Everyone deserves a break.

[Julian]

Or she took a permanent break.

[Rory]

It depends on where we was headed.

[Damaris]

More Turks.

[Mal]

You're gone.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Would you just leave the body at the airport? We'll pick it up on the way home.

[Rory]

I would just, like, have. They would have the cold. Come get it.

[Mal]

And Lost and found. Put a tag on the airport, Put.

[Rory]

Them in the fridge.

[Julian]

And can I put them in the bag and. Yeah, and can I put them.

[Mal]

Put them with the lost luggage.

[Rory]

Put them in a bathroom. Put them in a bag.

[Julian]

Do I still get the corpses? Check luggage. Do I still get to check those two bags that came with that ticket? Out of further questions.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Do I get her meal? Since you can't eat.

[Damaris]

Y'all are so.

[Julian]

I get her seat. I would put my legs up now.

[Rory]

Yeah, you get the whole roll to yourself. Yeah, yeah. I'm going on a vacation.

[Julian]

I'd probably.

[Damaris]

If I Just found out I was pushing my decrepit grandmother through the airport, and she was dead as a.

[Rory]

You need a vacation after that.

[Mal]

But what happens if, like, after the flight, and she had a middle seat? Like, what if you were, like, on the flight. What if you were arm to arm with a corpse and had no idea.

[Julian]

How long the whole flight take before a corpse starts? The snow, not the smell, because that takes. That's more like atmosphere. When does it start to blue? And when does rigor mortis set in? Because if you, like, move an arm and it's like. You're like.

[Rory]

That's a few hours.

[Mal]

And a lot of people themselves when they die.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's true.

[Rory]

Well, a lot of people themselves when they're alive, too.

[Mal]

Like, what the is. Yeah, I guess that's true.

[Julian]

So rigor mortis appears approximately two hours after death. And for those who aren't familiar, it's just your body gets extremely stiff. Yes. And Kendrick Lamar speaks. Highly speaks about this in his song.

[Mal]

But I mean, airplanes, like, whatever they do with the air. I mean, who's farted on an airplane? You rarely smell it.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

So I think, like, a corpse would do. All right. I don't know if it's a. I've.

[Rory]

Smelled farts on the airplane.

[Damaris]

I have to.

[Rory]

You could tell when somebody.

[Damaris]

Rory's the one farting and not smelling his own fart. That's what it is.

[Mal]

I was gonna make a joke, but. Yeah, you could smell it all the way back there. Ooh, and you shot at me. I was minding my business.

[Julian]

Cropped us in the hole.

[Rory]

And white people have a distinct smell when they fart. Like, white farts is different. You can smell when a white person farted. It's like a different type of smell.

[Julian]

Like what?

[Mal]

Wait, hold on.

[Rory]

It's just. I can't really explain it, but I know when a white person just farted. Like, I could smell it. How?

[Julian]

Do you have a seasonless fart?

[Rory]

No, but it's like a. It's like a. It almost smells like cancer a little bit.

[Mal]

What does cancer smell like?

[Rory]

It's just like a smell.

[Julian]

What are you, like a trained dog?

[Rory]

Yeah, like, I could smell cancer. Like, oh, you might want to get your prostate check.

[Damaris]

Being able to spell prostate cancer is gay.

[Rory]

I'm not going to hold you if somebody farts. Not if I'm fudgeing, sniffing they ass. But they farted. How's that gay?

[Mal]

But how? Like, all right, how.

[Julian]

Damn, homie, get your asshole checked out.

[Mal]

Homeward bound. How good is the smell. Like, can you smell the stages? Like, that's just stage two.

[Rory]

Yeah. You don't have. You don't have nothing to worry about. But you want to get that check.

[Mal]

But you walked in a room and was like, it smells very stage four in here.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. But you know when somebody is sick, you can't smell somebody falling, like, yo, somebody here.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I don't know what I'm saying, though.

[Rory]

It's. But it's like. But white people have. Y'all have this, like, the smell where it's like, don't know what you ate, but it might not just be what you're eating. Might be something inside of you that's like, with your body.

[Mal]

I had no idea you guys are co signing this.

[Julian]

No, I don't buy a second of what.

[Rory]

Oh, this is also.

[Julian]

You know, this reminds me of. Remember when Malz said episodes ago when we were at your house, Mal said that we were talking about a story of someone that broke into someone's apartment. And Mal said, that would never happen to me. I can. I would know when. So he said he had, like, some spidey sense and he would know that someone would be approaching his door and he would be able to, like, meet them at the door before they even broke in. You said some shit like that.

[Mal]

You were like, you security.

[Julian]

He said if I was dead asleep. Because that's what it was. He said if I was dead asleep.

[Damaris]

In some hotel rooms.

[Julian]

Yes. Remember the story was the guy.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Julian]

A manager of a hotel broke into a guy's hotel room and started, like, coming on his feet and was like. Had a foot fetish. He was like, playing with his guy's feet. And you said that would never happen to me. I would wake up out of a dead sleep.

[Rory]

I could hear, bro, I'm trying to tell you. Well, if they farted, bro, I. I sleep like, I'm a heavy sleeper, but I can feel when somebody is in the room or moving around. I could feel that shit in my sleep. And I'll. I'll sit straight up like, who the fuck is that? I do it all the time.

[Mal]

What a black movie fart smell like?

[Rory]

It depends on the holiday.

[Mal]

So white people across the board, 365 days of the year, we have the same.

[Rory]

It's like, y'all smell like. It always smells like deviled eggs. Like white people's farts always smell like deviled eggs. Or like, it's like. It's like an eggy.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

You know, it's like Sulfur.

[Rory]

It's like a sulfur type of. Yeah, it's like.

[Mal]

Like New Jersey.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's one of those type of things. Yeah.

[Mal]

Black people have never had a fart that smells like an egg.

[Rory]

I'm not saying they haven't, but more times like, that's what I'm saying. It depends on the holiday. If black people have been eating a lot of potato salad around like Christmas, Thanksgiving, things like that, then you know, that would come back to them and kind of like their stomach up. But white people, y'all thought to be smelling like egg. Devil eggs in this Valentine's Day? Who the is eating deviled eggs on Valentine's Day? You know what I mean?

[Mal]

Like, it's a cute arrangement. Yeah, but it's just like it was in the heart.

[Julian]

The shape of a heart is crazy.

[Mal]

It was an edible arrangement.

[Rory]

Who's eating that?

[Julian]

I'm not gonna lie. When Damaris made those deviled eggs for the holiday part, I ate like 10 of them.

[Rory]

And you went home.

[Damaris]

I'm so happy I have to go.

[Rory]

Home with you home smelling like.

[Julian]

Yeah, they were. They were very good.

[Mal]

I can debunk this whole theory. I farted around mall a million times and he has no idea.

[Rory]

That's not true.

[Julian]

You just farted right now.

[Rory]

I smell when Rory's farted around me.

[Mal]

You too.

[Damaris]

You just don't say anything I say.

[Rory]

So far.

[Julian]

I'm sorry for anyone that's eating right now. It's a tough.

[Rory]

Oh, cuz they could smell it, right?

[Julian]

Nah, man.

[Rory]

What's wrong with y'all? Why are you acting like such pansies? I'm so squirrel Taylor's. I'm a hurt. I couldn't sleep. I was kidding.

[Mal]

Can you imagine I'm having a billion dollars in that happening to you.

[Rory]

I'm so sorry for anybody that's listening to this. We're talking about farts and you're eating and we shouldn't do that to you. Shut the up is wrong with you, man?

[Julian]

The are you talking children's image of.

[Mal]

Their hero is ruined.

[Damaris]

Y'all are awful people.

[Mal]

Y'all felt worse for Taylor than young thug.

[Rory]

We established facing. He's facing potential life behind bars.

[Julian]

Look what he did. He did something.

[Rory]

Oh, well, allegedly.

[Mal]

See, there you go.

[Rory]

This is what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Innocent until proven guilt.

[Rory]

Saying that he did these things like. Stop. Don't do that. You don't know.

[Julian]

He just said it. He said, look at Drake's comment. You said, why is he. This guy's a terror.

[Mal]

You just. I said he was innocent and free. Thug.

[Julian]

Rewind his 15.

[Damaris]

He did say that.

[Rory]

Three to guys.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Which I. Can someone tell me what that meant?

[Julian]

3.

[Mal]

Is that a typo that Drake put.

[Rory]

No, that wasn't a typo.

[Julian]

Three the guys.

[Mal]

What is that? He said Drake said three the guy. Instead of free the guy.

[Julian]

Three. I don't know.

[Mal]

Probably a gang.

[Rory]

Look at Julian.

[Julian]

I'm trying to. I'm trying to.

[Mal]

Three rhymes.

[Rory]

The gangs are using numbers now. I don't know.

[Julian]

Which means, like, truly humble. Under threes.

[Mal]

I'm doing it.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

In their language forever.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So everyone would go on the trip.

[Rory]

With the corpse going, I've seen Weekend at Bernie's, one of my favorite movies also.

[Mal]

And we can close this. What do you do in that sit? Do you wheel them out?

[Julian]

Yeah, well, yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Someone else needs to wheel them out.

[Mal]

And put like a hat over.

[Damaris]

Well, they probably caught. No, they probably called emergency services, who probably came with, like, a stretcher.

[Julian]

They had body bags at airports, but to me.

[Mal]

But I don't think they would be like, they're already.

[Rory]

They will put. They would. They would. They would act like they're tending to like a medical emergency and put them on a stretcher and put a. Put an oxygen mask on them.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they don't. They don't know she's really.

[Rory]

They're not going to pronounce her. Like, they're. I mean, if they. Checking for pulse and then like that, they're going to try to resuscitate the person.

[Julian]

I guess I was going to say, if they knew for a fact that she was dead, I wouldn't go into a panic. If I'm an airport attendant, I would just push her through the airport, get her out without making it a scene. Just like pretend like it's just an old woman sleeping in a chair.

[Rory]

I mean, but you've been on flights with dead bodies that was checked in. Like, I remember sitting on the flights a couple of times and look out the window when they're loading and seen them loading caskets all the time.

[Mal]

Like, yeah, it does happen.

[Rory]

It happens. You've traveled with body.

[Julian]

I have.

[Mal]

Just not sitting next.

[Julian]

Someone died on the flight. I was. I don't remember when it was.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I would go, especially if it was. Lovers and Friends. They finally announced the lineup for the Lovers and Friends show in Las Vegas, Saturday, May 4th. This is one of. This is one of the best lineups I've ever seen for a festival, for a show in my entire life, ever.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And what's Funny is the ones I'd put like second, third, and fourth were lovers and friends last year, the year before that.

[Rory]

Yeah. Well, it's true.

[Mal]

They may have the top five greatest lineups.

[Julian]

What is.

[Rory]

This is Usher's festival, right?

[Mal]

He's attached to it somehow. Yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean, that's just the star power of Usher.

[Julian]

He's doing confessions too.

[Mal]

This is so great. Like, if you use the bathroom, you're gonna miss.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't.

[Mal]

The greatest ever.

[Julian]

This is one day. How does this. When do they start?

[Damaris]

That's what I was wondering. Yeah.

[Rory]

Start at midnight.

[Julian]

No, I'm just saying, like, how do you fit in? Pause. All this is like 50 names. And not only that, realistically, how long are there sets and how many stages are there? This. This is crazy. There's gonna be so many people.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, it's a lot of people. That's only going to have maybe four or five songs.

[Julian]

Lil Wayne's doing, like, the Carter Three Dog.

[Mal]

Mims is only gonna get like a 15 minute set. Yeah, they're not going to give Mims 30 minutes.

[Julian]

I love men.

[Damaris]

They have to be tight in our schedule. Like, whoever is running this has to be. All right. This is why I'm hot just went off. Let's get Paula Dion down here to do walk away. Okay, next. Like, you gotta.

[Rory]

This lineup is incredible.

[Julian]

Look at the names.

[Rory]

98 degrees and Backstreet Boys.

[Damaris]

That is crazy.

[Mal]

Like, I want to go to this and it's on my birthday.

[Julian]

Cameron is in the.

[Mal]

But I feel like it would give me anxiety.

[Damaris]

Oh, we outside. We're going.

[Mal]

Because it's going to be multiple stages. You're going to have to make some very tough decisions.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

This would give me anxiety. Walking in, like, all right. I do want to see little flip perform sunshine, but am I going to miss Lumi D. Oh, jojo's on here. I need to sing. Leave. Get out.

[Julian]

Yeah. And then Lloyd, Luke Cantrell would be.

[Mal]

Great on this lineup total.

[Julian]

Lupe's on here.

[Rory]

702Ama re. Like, this is a. This is going to be a great show.

[Damaris]

Oh, you got to go see Lloyd perform. True.

[Mal]

He's not going to perform. True.

[Julian]

Jay Holiday, Lloyd, that love. You want to see bed?

[Mal]

Of course I do.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

I'm just saying, like, this. That's the first row. This is great. We should go.

[Damaris]

We definitely should go.

[Rory]

Julie. Jason Derulo is going to be there.

[Julian]

Well, I mean, that's why I'm going with him. So I'll see you guys there.

[Damaris]

I Definitely. For something like this. I feel like we gonna have to split up.

[Rory]

Jodeci. I gotta see that. Listen, man, Jodeci in 2024, I gotta see it. Well, let's.

[Mal]

Let's create some scenarios.

[Damaris]

Pretty Ricky on.

[Mal]

We splits with the ones on the bottom.

[Rory]

All right.

[Mal]

Maya or Kerry Hilson, which stage are you going to? I'm probably going to same time, opposite sides.

[Rory]

They both look good. So I don't know.

[Julian]

I'd probably go to Carrie.

[Damaris]

I'm probably gonna go to Maya. I need to hear that Fear of Flying album.

[Julian]

But how much of that are you gonna get?

[Damaris]

Yeah, you're right.

[Mal]

You gotta. Carrie Hilson has hits. I think I'm going Carrie.

[Julian]

Didn't that recent video come out?

[Rory]

Who? Carrie.

[Damaris]

Carrie has looked good since the moment she popped out the coochie. Like, Carrie looks so good, yo.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Damaris]

I'm not okay.

[Rory]

I mean, you know, my mom's like that. Like, you just.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

Pedophile.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, yo, literally.

[Damaris]

I didn't mean it literally. I meant it like figuratively, since I'm talking about. So she popped out the. Of her career. Of her career. Okay, but I understand how that sounded.

[Rory]

Creepy, right?

[Julian]

Jquan, I want to see Tipsy.

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure.

[Mal]

Mario or Pretty Ricky?

[Julian]

Pretty Mario.

[Rory]

Pretty Ricky.

[Damaris]

Because I'll be able to see Mario again. I probably will never see Pretty Ricky again.

[Rory]

One of them great. Go to jail again. You know that they always stay with us. Stay with a lawsuit. One of them get a lawsuit soon. You know that.

[Mal]

SWV or genuine? Same time.

[Damaris]

Swv.

[Julian]

That's tough.

[Rory]

I'm going genuine and he gonna do some. Wow.

[Julian]

That thing where he sits on the stage.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that's the thing. Genuine does festival. So I'll be able to see him again. I'm gonna go see swv.

[Rory]

SWV does festivals too, I believe.

[Damaris]

Really? I don't know. I've never heard of them being on a festival.

[Mal]

Tough one here. Keisha Cole or Jodeci?

[Rory]

That's not tough.

[Mal]

Really?

[Rory]

Jodeci, man, that's not. No, that's not tough. Keisha Cole and Jodeci.

[Damaris]

I'm going to see Keisha Cole.

[Mal]

You know, both of them don't perform at festivals very often. Like a Keisha Cole set live at a festival.

[Rory]

You're going to see KC on stage before you go see Keisha Cole just because you just don't know what that. Get ready to do.

[Damaris]

He's younger than. We're younger than you, baby.

[Rory]

I don't give a. Jodeci I'm going to. That's a bro. That's a. An iconic R B group.

[Julian]

I'd go with Mama. Jodeci.

[Rory]

Jodeci. Come on, fam. We not doing that.

[Damaris]

No, because you don't like black women. I'm going to see Case.

[Julian]

What I just said I would go to.

[Damaris]

It was a joke.

[Mal]

But yeah, 98 degrees. Or am I 98 degrees? 100.

[Julian]

Yeah, 98 degrees.

[Mal]

I'd probably go see 98 degrees. Over a lot of people on this list. I gotta see. One, I have to see Nick Lachey. And two, I have to ask him why him and his wife ruined reality tv.

[Julian]

Okay, Robin Thicke is on here. I haven't heard from him in a while.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm going. I. I will. I don't give a who is performing. I'm going to see Robin Thicke. I don't care if Janet's performing. I'm going to see Robin Thick.

[Rory]

That's Cat.

[Julian]

Wow.

[Damaris]

I'm going to see Robin thing.

[Rory]

That's. Nobody in this on this planet is going to see Robin Thicke before Janet.

[Damaris]

Well, that's because I just saw Janet a couple months ago.

[Rory]

Oh, okay. I understand that.

[Damaris]

And I love, love Robin Thicke.

[Mal]

Oh, this is a tough one.

[Damaris]

But also lied. I'm not going to see.

[Mal]

They probably will be on at different times, but Ludacris or Sierra.

[Julian]

Luda.

[Mal]

It's tough, man.

[Julian]

I'm going to see Luda.

[Damaris]

Sierra. I'm going to see Sierra.

[Mal]

I've seen ludicrous hits.

[Rory]

Somebody just. It's a. It's a meme going viral where they were saying, ciara should have did the halftime super bowl show over Rihanna.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

Like, she's a better performer?

[Julian]

Made that a thing.

[Rory]

I've seen, like, things going around. No disrespect, but people are saying, like. Like, look at. Stop going around where people were saying, like, but if, like, Sierra is a better performer, obviously plenty of people are.

[Damaris]

Better performers than Rihanna. They don't have the catalog or.

[Mal]

Kevin Federline was a great performer.

[Julian]

But, like, that's a fact.

[Rory]

Yeah, the names. What's up with you today, bro? Like, Blue catch.

[Mal]

He was a great dancer.

[Rory]

Kevin Federline, like, what Are you okay today? What's up with you, bro? Where are you going?

[Mal]

Are you a lot of sleep?

[Rory]

TRL today. Like, you want trl.

[Julian]

Rory stuck in the energy now.

[Damaris]

Like, ke still in his system. He was wilding last night.

[Julian]

Damn. It's crazy. You guys were like 10 minutes from me and you didn't even, like, That's.

[Rory]

They don't with you. You know that.

[Julian]

That's crazy. That's cool.

[Rory]

Whatever.

[Mal]

I didn't want to be shamed for naming my son Quebec.

[Julian]

Sean Paul's on here.

[Mal]

Juvenile. Rick Ross.

[Damaris]

Juvenile.

[Rory]

No way.

[Mal]

I've seen Ross perform so many times. I'd have to see. I'd have to see Juvenile.

[Rory]

I'm going to see Ross, man.

[Damaris]

Especially if he performed like he did.

[Julian]

Honestly, that tiny desk.

[Damaris]

That tin. I was going to say that tiny desk.

[Julian]

Yeah. I just saw Ross. I would probably do Juvenile.

[Damaris]

Juvenile with a live band is crazy. I hope he does that for this.

[Mal]

Casey and Mary J are gonna be in the same venue.

[Damaris]

Ooh.

[Julian]

Nelly Furtado. I would like to see live. She just did a. She just did a few nights at the Blue.

[Rory]

I don't care what she's doing. I just want to see her. She ain't gotta be singing. She ain't gotta be doing. She just gotta be hanging out.

[Damaris]

I'll pull up Neo or T Pain.

[Mal]

Oh, that's tough.

[Rory]

He was a better performer.

[Julian]

What? T Pain is a great performer.

[Rory]

He's not a better performer than Neil.

[Julian]

Yeah, Neil's great, too.

[Mal]

You guys know I'm a T Pain, Stan. I love T Pain, and I've seen him perform live a lot.

[Julian]

He does.

[Mal]

He does this edm.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

With his hits that I can't stand. Like, I would go to Neo. I would go to the bathroom.

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Mal]

I love T Pain is one of my favorites ever. I cannot say enough about Teddy Bender. Ass over. He does this EDM at his live shows. That is so bad. I want to hear Bartender, bro. I do not want to hear, like, I don't want to hear that play the song.

[Rory]

I saw him at.

[Mal]

He did that palooza. And I wanted to throw a bottle.

[Julian]

Remember that?

[Mal]

Not to name drop. I was standing next to Hov and we were looking at each other like, what the is he doing?

[Julian]

Damn, bro, you dropped that.

[Mal]

And I said now would be a good time to go do Death of Auto, too.

[Rory]

Yeah. I didn't like his performance. I didn't like his set at that. At that point, he laughed. And that was like, the first time I think I saw T Pain and.

[Mal]

Rest in peace to. To my brother Hovain. I text Hovain because at that point, I believe he was managing T Pain. That's how I booked T Pain was through Ovain. And I text over, like, Hovain. I was like, what do you. What is he doing? Should have told him not do the edm. I was like, I didn't think I.

[Rory]

Needed to do that.

[Damaris]

I didn't know that that was. I had to do that.

[Mal]

Everyone at Palooza was just like, yeah.

[Rory]

I didn't like that. That set. I remember saying that, like, and I was. I was excited to see because that was my first time seeing, I think, seeing T Pain live. So I was like, damn, you know, T. Pain got records. And I saw that, and I was kind of like. And then it was a thing where I think he was. He. He was. He didn't want to perform or he didn't want to. It was something that y'all were talking about. Like, I think he was. He didn't want to perform, or he was trying to back out of the performance. And then I was like, oh, that makes sense why he gave that set. He didn't even want to fucking be here.

[Mal]

There was something. It wasn't that, but you're right, there was something.

[Rory]

It was something to that effect that was going on where. I don't think he wanted to do that event. And you could just tell in his energy when he hit the stage. It was kind of like, yo, let's just hurry up and get this shit over with.

[Mal]

And I'm being selfish because I do understand that T. Pain gets booked. Like, white people love T. Pain. Yeah, he gets booked for a lot of shit. Where I'm sure the bartender EDM remix goes crazy in Vegas at the day parties. Like, I'm sure that's why it's in his set when he tours, because a lot of his audience is that and he's doing the right thing. But, like, when you come to Hammerstein Ballroom and, bro, we want to hear I'm sprung.

[Rory]

Yeah, we came to hear the. We came to hear the.

[Damaris]

Did he know that it was going to be an all black. Now, I don't want to say all black, but black.

[Julian]

It's a black crowd.

[Damaris]

A black crowd. Did he know that?

[Mal]

Probably it was.

[Rory]

Do you say palooza?

[Julian]

Yeah, you're right. It wasn't White Claw Palooza.

[Rory]

Yeah. Do say I go to my club Palooza. Like, let's just read the room. Do say palooza.

[Damaris]

White people, like, do say, so do Asian people.

[Rory]

Yeah, white people and Asian people like hip hop. But if this is a hip hop night, you're expecting to see some niggas in the room also.

[Mal]

You have to understand a lot of.

[Rory]

People, like, right, it was a hip hop night. I'm going to kill my people's at.

[Mal]

I mean, like, it's safe to assume That T. Pain is booked and busy. He probably looks at an offer or it. Knows his team is going to make sure he gets his rate. Just make sure I have a microphone that works. Like, yeah, I'm doing so much. I land. I don't know what the event is. So that it could have been that case where he literally just knew he had a New York date that night.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

He also does a lot of pop, locking, and beatboxing in his performance. I remember that too.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I'm not.

[Mal]

That's fine with me.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I can't see and I fuck with T. Pain, so I can't. I can't. I'm not gonna bell right there. Because if I hit the stage as T. Pain at Doucet Palooza, and I'm thinking it was another crowd in my mind. And once I hit that stage and see who's in the crowd, I'm like, yo, hold up. I had a whole different set. Give me two minutes, and I'm turning to the dj. Go to the shit. Yeah, he got the folder. Yeah, you know what? To go to the pack, my nigga. We in this room tonight. Go to the pack.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know what I'm saying? Like, so that's not an excuse to perform that at do circulars.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And you know who did that? Surprisingly, based off their versus effort, you would think otherwise. We had all of Dipset for Howard homecoming in D.C. and once they saw, like, who the crowd was, they got in their, like, B side bag once they realized who they were performing for. I appreciate when artists do that type of shit, when they really read a crowd and completely change their set.

[Rory]

Yeah, you see, but you have to. Sometimes you go whoever city you go into the room, and you'd be like, all right, I already know what they in here to hear. Like, that's why your DJ has different folders, like, different set lists. Like, so it was something that happened that night, though, because I remember, like, we was talking about it, and I was like, oh, when y'all told me what happened, I was like, oh, he didn't even want to fucking perform. Like, he's pissed off.

[Mal]

It was just hilarious that, like, everyone in the Hammerstein crowd was. It went from a party party to everyone stop and stop. Half the crowd was just staring at T. Pain, wondering what the was happening, and the other half was just staring, looking up at Beyonce. Everyone was just dead still while T. Pain was playing EDM music. It was like a curb your enthusiasm.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It was the weirdest thing I'd ever Seen in my life. But to answer your question, Neo.

[Julian]

Yeah, okay.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm seeing Neo.

[Rory]

Neil's a great performer.

[Julian]

I go with Neo.

[Mal]

This is in Vegas, right?

[Rory]

Vegas. Saturday, May 4th. Lovers and friends. I'm not gonna lie. I'm definitely trying to make that. That lineup is incredible. Usher, Mary J. Blige, Nelly, Nelly furtado, Backstreet Boys, 98 Degrees. Ashanti, Ja Rule, Alicia Keys, Lil Wayne, Janet, Snoop Dogg, TLC, Brandy, Monica. Yeah. This book's.

[Julian]

This.

[Rory]

This is. This is the show that you want to be at.

[Julian]

This is insane. Like, just the overhead on this is crazy.

[Mal]

How much are the tickets available? Can we Google just to see what, like a GA ticket cost?

[Julian]

I don't know if they're available yet.

[Mal]

Because I was going to do something for my birthday. Vegas wasn't really in my plans, but.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God, we going to go fucking crazy.

[Mal]

I'm down.

[Julian]

What? All tickets start in 1999. All right, $20 ticket.

[Mal]

This is a scam. This isn't happening.

[Julian]

That's not.

[Mal]

I'm going to see Janet Jackson for 20 bucks.

[Julian]

Oh, here we go. Tickets. GA starting at 325. GA. Plus starting at 595. VIP. 695. VIP. Cabana is not listed, but that seems to be the highest rate.

[Damaris]

Who the gonna be in the cabana?

[Julian]

You just get a complimentary. You know, it's like a little space, some bottles, little champagne.

[Rory]

That's how you want to experience that, though. You want to have your own space.

[Julian]

Up to 10 VIP tickets. That's not bad if you split it 10 ways.

[Damaris]

See that lineup? I'm gonna be running around like a chicken with my head cut off, trying to see everybody.

[Rory]

This is over for me.

[Mal]

But a lot of times, like, each stage will have its own VIP area.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Maybe that's how it works. I don't know, man. I understand this. 600 is a lot of money. That's kind of worth it.

[Rory]

This Lineup is worth 600 after taxes.

[Mal]

Probably 800 something.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. At least.

[Rory]

Yeah, that lineup is worth it.

[Damaris]

So we going.

[Mal]

That's something to save up for to, like, do. I'm down. I mean, should we. Should we start being those losers that hit up all the booking agents?

[Julian]

I'll hit up Jason.

[Damaris]

Jadicus. Oh, you meant Jake.

[Rory]

I'll hit up Damaris Jadicus.

[Julian]

Where'd you get. Oh, because his name is Jason.

[Mal]

Everybody knows Jadakiss is short for Jason.

[Rory]

Yeah. Now we're gonna hit Jadakiss and tell him, like, yo, we trying to Go to Lovers and Friends. What's up?

[Mal]

And he's not on the.

[Rory]

No, no.

[Mal]

We on the bill asking Jadakiss can we get tickets to a festival. You're not. Not on.

[Rory]

What are we talking about?

[Damaris]

He can't even get.

[Julian]

Never mind.

[Damaris]

Okay, go.

[Julian]

Wow.

[Damaris]

I didn't.

[Julian]

Ah, that's a shot. That's cool.

[Mal]

No, finish your shot.

[Damaris]

No, it wasn't a shot. I'm just saying. He wasn't on the Light up, so that was, like, kind of the joke. Why are you asking me to get you tickets? I didn't even get tickets because I.

[Mal]

Might have been booked. He would have been great on.

[Rory]

He might be.

[Damaris]

He would have been amazing on that lineup.

[Rory]

I could see them performing with Mary. I can see that. They actually. They got records with a few people on that lineup.

[Damaris]

The only person missing on that lineup is Mariah, But Mariah don't sing live like that anymore.

[Mal]

And if you have this lineup, like, Mariah don't do.

[Rory]

She's Santa Claus. She don't come outside before Christmas. Yeah, you see Mariah outside in the summer. Spring. You ain't never see Mariah Carey outside.

[Julian]

Even right in May is crazy.

[Rory]

You've never seen Mariah Carey in May, June, July. You don't see Mariah Carey until Broadway start putting up holiday lights. That's when you see Mariah Carey. You ain't see Mariah Carey all the time of year.

[Mal]

How do you think Mariah gets along with the rest of Nick's baby mothers?

[Damaris]

You think Mariah gets in the group?

[Mal]

You think she's in the group chat?

[Rory]

In the group chat? No, she's in the North Pole. Not fucking with nobody until Christmas. Like, that's it.

[Mal]

Holidays must be interesting. She got to work her ass off to. To help Nick and his kids.

[Rory]

She got her kids. She ain't got to help his kids.

[Mal]

But those are her kids. Siblings.

[Rory]

She ain't got to help them. You mean she ain't got to help take care of them kids.

[Mal]

So when they go to McDonald's, only orders for her kids?

[Damaris]

You know what?

[Rory]

If you think Mariah Carey's kids.

[Mal]

Wasn't that like a Twitter debate one day?

[Damaris]

Yes, I remember that.

[Rory]

Yes. One of the dumbest debates ever. That was so stupid. We get into these dumbass debates online.

[Damaris]

Oh, God, I hate it. They argue about the stupidest shit.

[Rory]

I tried to start a debate last night with that tweet.

[Damaris]

Which one?

[Rory]

Just to see the serial killers. Like, do you put your socks on before or after you get dressed? After you put your Socks on after you put your pants on?

[Mal]

Yeah, socks are the last.

[Rory]

You put your socks on after you put your pants on?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Unless. Hear me out. Unless I just did a full lotion. Because when I do the full lotion, then I put the socks on first.

[Rory]

But other than you don't do a full lotion every time you shower.

[Damaris]

No, of course. But if I'm just getting dressed and like, I didn't just recently shower. Like, not like, okay, so when I go to work, I shower, I come into work. But I'm talking about, like, if I'm getting dressed to run to the grocery store or something like that, and I just throw clothes on. No, I don't put the socks on first.

[Rory]

That is insane.

[Julian]

You have a different routine based on the activity that you're doing.

[Damaris]

When you're getting ready for work, you're getting out. Going out, ready for the day. If I've been in the house, if I showered earlier in the day.

[Rory]

Dressed the same way.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's. No, I get dressed the same way.

[Damaris]

No, I put my socks on after.

[Rory]

Like, to me, I would think you shower you lotion. If you. If you. If you are somebody that lotions.

[Julian]

I pull up. Yeah.

[Rory]

Then you put your underwear on.

[Julian]

Yep.

[Rory]

Then you put your socks on.

[Damaris]

Nah. Clothes fully clothed.

[Rory]

Who the puts on jeans and they say, man, let me throw these socks on. That's ins. That's psycho killer to me.

[Julian]

The only time I do that, the only time is if I'm kicking it at the house and, like, I'm barefoot for a minute.

[Damaris]

So what? I just said, no, no, but if.

[Julian]

I'm going out, if I'm actively going, I do what mall saying I'm putting my socks on after.

[Rory]

Even if you're barefoot in the house, you would put your socks on before your jeans.

[Julian]

Yeah, Well, I mean, if I'm in the crib, I'm wearing like sweatshirts or short sweats or something.

[Rory]

So you would still have your socks.

[Julian]

On before I just go into slippers. No socks.

[Rory]

I'm not. I'm confused now.

[Julian]

There's no sock. That's why I'm saying I wouldn't put a sock.

[Rory]

There's no socks when you're just chilling.

[Julian]

I have just. I've my slippers.

[Rory]

Okay. I mean, listen, some people do that. I don't.

[Mal]

What if your socks are to go with what you're wearing and you're looking for what you're wearing?

[Damaris]

Yeah, socks will go last, which is probably.

[Mal]

I always put socks on last, but.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

[Mal]

But I am a serial killer.

[Damaris]

Yes, it does matter.

[Rory]

It doesn't matter when you know what the you're wearing. I'm just saying you once you know what you're wearing, so you put your clothes on and be like, what socks shall I wear? And you're barefoot with jeans and a hoodie on, looking for socks. Do you Fucking insane.

[Mal]

I think it's weird when like I like wool socks. Like just standing in my drawers and wool socks is weird to me.

[Rory]

I think stay. I think standing in jeans and no socks and looking for socks is weird.

[Julian]

Because then you gotta like lift your pants up to put the sock.

[Damaris]

It's like what the are you effort the.

[Julian]

I mean, it's just an unnecessary step.

[Rory]

It's like you put your socks on and then you put your pants on and then put your sneakers.

[Mal]

That's not a serial killer. Is if you put your shirt on before you draw. I was gonna say that's a serial killer.

[Julian]

You Winnie the Pooh and just go shirt first.

[Rory]

No, I don't.

[Mal]

I don't disrespect my family's namesake.

[Julian]

You never pooed out?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Now my grandfather would roll in his grave. So I put a shirt on or something.

[Rory]

That's why I don't do it. Oh, so if you gotta adds up, see how that. Yeah. Putting your socks on before your pants is the way to go. You gotta put your socks on first and then your pants.

[Mal]

Will you guys judge me if I sing every word to Craig David Seven days in front of you.

[Rory]

You wouldn't be in front of me. I'd walk away from you.

[Mal]

What if I follow you in front of me?

[Damaris]

It's so funny.

[Mal]

What if I followed you rapping?

[Julian]

We'll call security following you.

[Mal]

And then what if I did the most def remix verse and most wasn't there? Like once Craig stopped, I just kept going.

[Rory]

I would think that there's something wrong with you.

[Damaris]

Well, you said something else. Mouthwash. Before. After you brush your teeth. Was that another thing you were trying to figure out if people were serial killers?

[Rory]

Well, that was something. Just because everybody has different routines. That's after I was just thinking, no mouth.

[Damaris]

You floss, mouthwash, brush.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah.

[Damaris]

That's the way you're supposed to do it.

[Julian]

No, you brush first and then the mouthwash is like whatever's loose and left over. That's what you get all this out and spit it out.

[Mal]

Yep. I brush mouthwash. And if I'm flossing. Brush, floss, Mouthwash.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Damaris]

That's What I used to do too, until I found out that I guess the mouthwash is rinsing away whatever's. Whatever. The toothpaste is supposed to keep your teeth white and keep stuff from sticking on your teeth. You rinse it off when you do mouthwash. So you're supposed to brush last.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, fluoride is killing our brain and our teeth anyway, so.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, me, I'm a. I'm a mouthwash before and after type of person version. I'll do like peroxide first in the mouth.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, I mix. I mix my mouthwash with hydrogen peroxide.

[Mal]

Do you guys brush your teeth before or after breakfast?

[Julian]

Well, that's actually not a bad.

[Mal]

Get the transition.

[Julian]

Jeez, you gotta do it.

[Mal]

Are you mad before?

[Damaris]

This is the episode of Shitty transition.

[Mal]

I'm just hilarious in the Breakfast Club. Back at it. That was a good radio transition.

[Julian]

Actually wasn't bad.

[Rory]

That was terrible.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, it was. It was really bad.

[Rory]

It was. It wasn't bad. It was terrible.

[Mal]

I hope everyone listening is cringing in their car.

[Rory]

They are.

[Mal]

Anyways, with that said, I brushed my teeth after breakfast. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne. DJ Envy, I think, was what last episode. Two episodes ago we had announced that she was going to be the new co host. That clearly.

[Rory]

Or so we thought.

[Mal]

That's what we thought. Envy and Charlamagne have been going back and forth about how I heart won't hire someone, but we didn't think that there was beef between Jess, Envy and Charlemagne. Clearly there is. Envy and Charlemagne were talking about Mary J versus sza, which I don't even particularly care to talk about.

[Julian]

Jess.

[Mal]

Hilarious. Then reposted it and called them trash.

[Rory]

What do you mean?

[Mal]

Mary Jimmy?

[Rory]

Mary J versus Scissor.

[Mal]

They were comparing the two in regards to what?

[Julian]

It.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

Just.

[Mal]

They were like, she's the new Mary.

[Rory]

Oh, so that's not.

[Mal]

I could be misquoting them. Sorry for doing that. I just don't particularly care to have a Mary and Sizzle debate. But I get it. They're on the radio and have to talk about.

[Rory]

I mean. Well, I don't think that's what they said because I don't see what. What Jess would have. What would be upsetting just to jump in at and say that they said.

[Julian]

SZA is this generation's Mary and then she said they're trash for that opinion.

[Rory]

What? That's not a. That's not disrespectful.

[Mal]

So why they chase has nothing to do with SZA and Mary Jay Jess just found one reason to call them trash.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's.

[Mal]

There's something that's going on behind the scenes.

[Rory]

Right. So we could get that out of the way. It wasn't the fact that she didn't like them comparing SZA to Mary and calling SZA the new Mary J. Blige. Cause there's nothing that anyone would be upset about that's a compliment.

[Mal]

No matter what topic I think they were discussing that day, Jess was going to call them trash.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Nothing to do with Sizzo or Mary J. But I didn't think there was real beef. I could see there being a beef with Jess and I hard or something like that. But I haven't publicly seen Charlemagne or Envy say anything negative about Jess. So there had to have been some wild behind the scenes that happened.

[Rory]

Well, Cam Newton and Brandon Marshall were on the Breakfast Club. And before they finished the interview, Cam asked what happened with Just Larry's in Charlamagne. And Envy did their best rendition of sidestepping that question, avoiding answering it. So, obviously there's something. Whether it's legally they can't speak on certain things, whether, you know, I don't know, just personal issues and feelings that they just don't want to talk about. Obviously, there's something to this story, or.

[Mal]

We'Re completely overthinking this and knowing how Jess speaks. She would have said this on air to their faces. And it's not that big a deal. She's just in on the conversation, and she's not actually calling them trash. She would say y'all trash in person. And we're not getting or reading the tone that is in this post.

[Julian]

Mal, can you read what she said?

[Rory]

She said these niggas trash. Envy, shut up. I know artists be pissed when old heads do this, because now everybody negatively comparing SZA to mjb, and it ain't even her fault. What is the negatively comparing? See, that's what.

[Mal]

But, you know the Internet, so.

[Damaris]

Yeah, so, like, once they brought up the conversation, the Internet is now probably killing Sizzle. Like, she ain't no Mary J. Blige.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And SZA didn't even volunteer for this to happen.

[Mal]

She's at home, mind her business. Now her mentions are full of why she's not Mary J. And it's like, I never said I was.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What the.

[Rory]

Yeah, but I mean, this is what we do in our culture. We compare artists from other generations to current artists. I don't think that Envy and Charlemagne were trying to slight or disrespect SZA by comparing her to Mary J. Blige. So if the Internet took it and tried to turn it into SZA could never be married. SZA's not on Mary's level. SZA's trash. Whatever they was saying, that's the Internet. That's not Charlamagne and Envy's fault. I think they were paying homage and paying respect to Sza and what she's done so far in her career. And she is the new queen of hip hop soul.

[Mal]

I mean, to be honest, I don't think anyone would have even noticed that Charlamagne and DJ Emmy were talking about Sza and Mary Jay. Unless Jess did this.

[Julian]

Yeah, that.

[Mal]

It wasn't like this because they're trying to clip. This clip went viral. Like, whoa, Charlemagne talks about sizzle and Mary J. Like, yeah, well, this was probably in between music almost damn near to a commercial break that they were shooting. The. This clip would nep. Would have never went anywhere. Had just not done.

[Damaris]

Well, it's. She. She reposted a Shade Room.

[Rory]

Why?

[Mal]

All right, then. I take everything I. I said back. Why did Shade Room post this?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was about to say I.

[Mal]

Take everything I said.

[Rory]

Well, they said they. Charlemagne the God, and DJ Envy gives scissor her flowers. So this is not disrespect. None of this was rooted in disrespect everyone's arguing about.

[Mal]

It's way more about Jess commenting on Charlemagne.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's just. That's just so. Yeah, it's something deeper to this. She just don't like these dudes or she don't with them. Something happened. They're not cool. They obviously aren't working together anymore. So, I mean, that is what it is. I could kill.

[Mal]

Like, what could have happened? Charlamagne was pushing for her to have the job.

[Rory]

I mean, you know as well the contracts with that money, like, that maybe she felt like she wasn't being.

[Mal]

You don't need Dame Dash to tell you that they don't own the Breakfast Club. Like, that is nice.

[Rory]

Yeah. But they probably just did not speak.

[Mal]

To Charlemagne Envy about negotiating a contract.

[Rory]

Yeah. Or. Or he may have did what he did to us. See? Oh, you know, he may have went back there and did that. Yo, I don't think she worth what y'all trying to pick.

[Mal]

Charlamagne really said that about us?

[Julian]

Wait, what?

[Mal]

That was some. That. And I have no issues with Charlie. We're all past everything. Even if he was here, I'd laugh about it, too. That was some real. That was some real Female.

[Rory]

That was crazy.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Wait, that was. Wow.

[Mal]

We were at home minding our business. Like, what the.

[Rory]

I, you know, I mean, you know, get. You give people a mic, let them talk long enough, they gonna say some. That's, you know, like, whoa.

[Mal]

And I. I could be wrong. I think Charlamagne did apologize to us and was like, I probably shouldn't have said that.

[Rory]

And I don't. Ain't no. Probably you shouldn't. You should never say that. But I mean, listen, it's no beef. It's all love Charlamagne, but nah, he probably, you know, it's probably some shit like that where they probably went to Envy and Charlamagne was like, yo, you know, like, we might have to take, you know, cut back here somewhere if we're gonna bring Jess in full time. And they probably was like, you know, once a nigga do that, that means. Nah, we ain't rolling with that plan. Like, we cool on Jess. Hilarious. Like, she's funny, but we cool. We ain't taking no picture.

[Mal]

I think Jess is perfect for that lot. And she is, though.

[Rory]

But I think she's dope.

[Mal]

You know how they were doing the, like, guest fill in thing for a while. If they would have reached out to you, let's say they continued to do it and reached out to you to do the Breakfast Club for a week, Would you do it?

[Rory]

Breakfast Club for a week?

[Mal]

Yeah, they had Loom was up there. Of course Jess was there. A bunch of different people rotating when they were looking for new hosts.

[Rory]

Oh, I would have. It would have to be a conversation off air first between me, Charlamagne and Envy, though, just to make sure they know, like, I don't got. I just feel like it might still be a little funny energy there. And not for me. Cause I don't know them personally to have any funny. I didn't like what Charlamagne said, but even that's like water under the bridge. I don't give a fuck about that. But just I would have that conversation. Like, I wouldn't just show up and cameras and mic be rolling and just. I'm like, nah. Cause I don't want to talk about that on air before having a personal conversation about that. We could address that type of shit on air. Cause, you know, fuck it, we men. But. But yeah, I would do it. I mean, the Breakfast Club is an important part of our culture. It's not what it once was, but it's still an important brand in our culture. And if they wanted to have me on for a Week to sit down and kick it with them and address the culture. I would do it.

[Julian]

You know, they start recording at, like, 7:00am okay.

[Rory]

All right. What does that mean?

[Julian]

Nothing. It's a long day.

[Rory]

Say what you want to say.

[Mal]

It's a long day.

[Julian]

It's a long day.

[Mal]

They're from 7 to 10.

[Julian]

All right.

[Rory]

No. What are you trying to say? Like, I'm not. I wouldn't be there at 7am it's early.

[Julian]

It's early. It's a radio start. Like, I know. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

Say what you're saying. Be a man. Stand on your business. What you saying?

[Julian]

You have to get there on time and be there at. Or ask crack at dawn before the sun rises and record.

[Rory]

I'll be there.

[Julian]

All right.

[Mal]

Can I ask you for a drop outside after you park? That'd be a fun sketch to do if you did the Breakfast Club.

[Damaris]

No, that would be hilarious.

[Rory]

And then chase me.

[Mal]

What was Charlamagne supposed to do? Stand there and get beat up?

[Rory]

I always said he did the right thing.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm running.

[Rory]

He always did.

[Mal]

What the he want me to do?

[Rory]

Yeah, y'all trying to jump me out.

[Mal]

Two guys trying to beat me up. Yeah, I'm gonna run away.

[Rory]

I'm not standing here playing like I'm Steve Seagal with y'all. Like, I'm not. Yeah, like, we not doing that. Like, I'm going back in the building where security is at, like niggas trying to beat me up outside my job.

[Mal]

I'm so glad this didn't happen. But that would have been probably the most viral clip of all time had he ran into traffic and got hit by a car.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Damaris]

What the. Rory.

[Julian]

Rory.

[Rory]

Jesus. That happened, though. Did you see that video where they was pressing some dude in Times Square? I guess he was trying to play like he was a Crip or a Blood or something.

[Mal]

Yes, I did see that.

[Rory]

And they was pressing him right in Times Square. And then, like, he got so scared, they act like he was chasing him. He ran into the street and got hit by a car. It's fucked up, though, because if he would have got. Got killed, that's like. You could face charges for that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know what I'm saying? Because you chasing somebody and they run into the street, like, that falls on you.

[Mal]

I want to make it clear, I never want Charlemagne to get hit by a car. It was just when I watched that video for the first time, I was like, wow, he's lucky he didn't get hit by a fucking Car.

[Rory]

No, but it's early, though. In the morning down there.

[Mal]

Still in New York City downtown in the morning.

[Rory]

That block is not. It's not like that car. Traffic is not crazy like that. Six, seven in the morning. That's a very, like, off. That's, like, in the cut in the city.

[Julian]

That would suck.

[Damaris]

It's mad places for you to hide.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's actually probably a good place to get chased.

[Rory]

Yeah, but what time is it? Like, if it's high noon, I'm not running. You ain't chasing me down.

[Mal]

How old are you?

[Rory]

Down, down Houston. Like, I'm not running down High Noon.

[Mal]

Palooza can go.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not running down Houston at noon. Like, I'm not doing that. Then see it like, this mall getting chased by on house. That's not happening.

[Mal]

But then also getting beat up at high noon, like. And sweating on the walk home.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if it's more people outside and you get beat, as long as you, like you fighting back, you could get jumped. That's all right. Niggas gonna be like, yo, I ain't gonna. He was swinging, though. But if you run it, imagine don't.

[Mal]

Swing when you're getting jumped. Like, you got.

[Rory]

See you running down housing and you knocking people over trying to get out the way. And n. Just chase. That's bad. That look bad.

[Damaris]

Say, yo, niggas had a gun on him.

[Julian]

You'd rather just get jumped than try to run away, then try to evade it.

[Rory]

If it's enough people. If it's. If it's. I'm talking about, like. Like, lunch hours in Midtown. Everybody's outside walking around.

[Damaris]

How many people trying to jump me? Because if it's more than three, I'm.

[Rory]

Running at, like, 1 o'clock.

[Damaris]

If it's more than three, I'm Running.

[Rory]

I ain't running, to be honest.

[Mal]

Two to three is where I'm definitely running. If it's just six of y'all, this will be. This will be easy. No.

[Damaris]

1, six people, they fighting each other.

[Mal]

They don't know how to fucking. It's so hard to jump somebody with six people.

[Rory]

Make that make sense. Six people right now try to press you and jump you. You're gonna stand there and fight three people you running.

[Mal]

They'll actually beat my ass. The three of them. Six of them are. They're gonna hit each other. Like, they're gonna be trying to push to get kicks in. There's not a lot of space for their arms to go.

[Rory]

I know, I know. That's in that theory. In your mind. Seems correct.

[Mal]

Wait, I wanna make it clear. I'm running regardless. I'm about to say, I'm saying I.

[Rory]

Would hope six people swinging and kicking. Nah, I'm.

[Mal]

I will take a large group of people jumping me over three people any day though.

[Rory]

I'll take six arms and legs before 12.

[Julian]

Both.

[Rory]

That's all I'm saying.

[Julian]

Yeah, I mean, to Roy's point though, they're fighting for space. Everyone wants to get their lick. Like there's a lot.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it's a lot more.

[Julian]

They start. They start getting mad at each other.

[Damaris]

But this is the. No, but this is the thing, because when you fight in two, at one point them two gonna get tired. You fighting six, they tapping each other in and out, tag teaming your ass. Nobody's getting tired of whooping your ass.

[Julian]

If they're smart, they would do that. But I. To Rory's point, I think all six would try to go in at the same time.

[Mal]

Them, when jumpings happen, they're not always. They're not always like Navy SEALs. Like, sometimes they're just dumb asses. They're just like, yo, move, let me kick them.

[Rory]

When them. When them 15 blood was in that hallway. Oh, I mean, not once did I be like, no, I could stand here, fight, it's 15, they're gonna be hitting each other trying to hit me. That theory never crossed my.

[Mal]

I'm running regardless.

[Rory]

I was like, I'm calling. I wanted to call the police. See, this is the time where I wish I had a cell phone. I'd have been right in Shorty's room. Like, I'd have called the what? Nah, and they was older. You know, when you young and you see older dudes, you like, I'm about to call the cops on them. Like, I'm not about to fight these old ass men out here. And it wasn't even men, but they were just older than me.

[Damaris]

Have you ever called the cops on somebody more?

[Rory]

Called the cops on somebody?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, never called the cops on nobody. I've called the cops because something happened, like, And I was like, like, either in front of the building, somebody got like cut, beat up, hit by a car. Like, shit like that. Like, it's like, oh, shit, call the cops. Somebody's laid out right here.

[Julian]

Like, I called the cops last summer, saw a guy overdosing on a bench.

[Rory]

Well, then that's when you.

[Julian]

Oh, God.

[Damaris]

No, I meant like, call the cops on somebody.

[Julian]

No, no, it sucks. And I had to wait, like, what.

[Rory]

Would I be calling the cops on somebody? I don't even know what I would call the cops. Like, unless they break into my house or something like that. Then that's. That's different.

[Damaris]

I've called the cops. This year is the full time. My neighbors.

[Rory]

You call the cops and your neighbors for what?

[Damaris]

Because I told them multiple times. My dog gets really nervous around fire every fourth of July. Listen, y'all can do this, do this.

[Rory]

Check out she wanted. That's crazy.

[Damaris]

Why the are you popping from July 4th?

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

I thought she called on July 4th.

[Damaris]

Take them big ass state fair fireworks from in front of my house.

[Rory]

She's a cop.

[Damaris]

Yep. And calling the cops.

[Rory]

Oh, well, yo, that's not crazy to nobody else but me. You calling the cops so niggas bust a fireworks.

[Damaris]

Yeah, because my dog for a whole entire summer is about to herself running around the house scared. Cause y'all been popping fireworks for three months straight. And they're not just cute little fireworks, pe. Pe. They're them big ass boom. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. No, no, bro.

[Mal]

I never thought a dog would live with a rat.

[Julian]

Rory was sitting on that.

[Damaris]

He was. It was bubbling like a fire. He couldn't wait to let that out.

[Mal]

That was a white people fart. That smelled like eggs.

[Julian]

Smell like eggs. That was great.

[Rory]

Yo, I never thought I'd see a dog live with a rat. Yo, that sound like the title of a.

[Julian]

How many times have you called?

[Mal]

That would be in Jadicus verse.

[Rory]

Yeah, for sure. Never thought I'd see a dog live with a rat.

[Julian]

Feel me?

[Rory]

That's. That's a kiss ball right there.

[Mal]

100%.

[Julian]

Did they learn? Have they not done it since?

[Damaris]

Oh, no, they learned.

[Mal]

This year was the first year. I think I called the cops on someone. Someone's parked in front of my driveway and I need to leave.

[Julian]

Leave.

[Damaris]

Right. But I'm. But I'm a rat.

[Julian]

What happened? What you did? They moved their car?

[Mal]

No, I. I went to my neighbor's house. Like within the race. Y'all know about the end of my street?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I asked like I wasn't gonna call the cops.

[Rory]

But nobody's your neighbor's car either. No.

[Mal]

Nobody knew whose car it was.

[Rory]

No then.

[Mal]

And I could not get out of my driveway. I needed to leave.

[Julian]

So.

[Rory]

That's different. That's different. I understand that. I'm thinking like you just saw the car.

[Mal]

I didn't really call the cops. I called the tow number. That's like on the the. For the city. It's I was still ratted.

[Rory]

You got their card like, no, but that's different though. First of all, they're not supposed to be in parked in front of your driveway. That's number one. Everybody knows you don't park in front of somebody's driveway. That's stupid. So I understand that. I thought you meant like you just saw it out your window. It was somebody's leave. Oh, yeah. But if you're trying to leave and you ask the neighbors like whose car is this? And nobody knows, then that's you're supposed to do it. At that point, I didn't want to.

[Mal]

Call the cops because that takes a long time. But I hoping it was the neighborhood.

[Julian]

That's what I was into. I learned that when I called the guy that was overdose and they were asking me a thousand questions. I was like, dude, I'm. I was walking to the gym, I was like, I don't know this guy. I'm just trying to be a good Samaritan. And then they asked me 100 questions like, can you wait? I was like, ah, fine. Like it just got, it got annoying. It was like 20 minutes.

[Mal]

I mean, I'm not here to on cops. I know blue lives like matter the most, but cops are when you're trying to help somebody. Because I had a similar situation in Kia's building where there was somebody that was clearly having a reaction to drugs. And then when the cops did show up, they were so rude to me. I was like, bro, I can leave. Yeah, Like I got nothing to do a favor. Like what the are you mad at me for?

[Damaris]

Because they're mad that you called them and now they got to come help a drug addict.

[Mal]

Oh, damn.

[Damaris]

I know.

[Julian]

Did I do my job?

[Mal]

Yeah. Anyways. Do we have voicemails?

[Julian]

Yeah, you've got mail. This is fun. We guys, did you know we there's listeners in Iraq?

[Mal]

Yes. We have like two.

[Julian]

This is one of them.

[Mal]

One of two.

[Julian]

Yeah. So.

[Baz]

Hey everyone. How are you going guys doing? Rory, Mall Julian and the Mares, I hope you're all doing fine. My name is Baz, I'm from Iraq. A 27 year old doctor who had a question about relationships and career. Careers. So basically I'm in a situation when unless shit really goes bad, I have a chance to come and do my residency, my medical residency in the U.S. however, my current partner does not like the amount of work it takes to be able to even apply for a residency in the US and she wants us to stay here or to just go to a Country with a less strict set of rules for being able to practice medicine. And so, as you might imagine, I cannot decide which one to do. So do I chase my dream, the thing that I've always wanted, my dream job, or do I stay here and be with my partner? I would appreciate an info. And if any of you guys have had a similar situation in your lives, we had to treat between your professional life and your personal lives. Thanks so much. Huge fan.

[Rory]

Well, thank you, Boz. All the way from Iraq, I would say, at 27 years old, I would say choose your professional career over partner. Right now. 27, still fairly young, but chase your dreams while you can. Yeah, I would say chase your dreams.

[Mal]

Let the partner go have that conversation with her. You guys have, obviously, two separate ideas of where you see your life going. And if being a doctor in America is what you've always wanted to do, don't just settle on your life because your partner wants to stay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

In the area that they're in, you can do that in a respectful way. Have that conversation with them and. And move on.

[Rory]

Definitely chase your dreams.

[Mal]

She wants to stay there.

[Julian]

There.

[Mal]

I mean, I will say it is funny, though, to hear that because, like, you ever, like, get in a cab and, like, the cab drivers, like, I was a doctor in my country.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

It's.

[Mal]

It's difficult.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, but if that's his dream, I mean, you already made it to become a doctor, which is extremely hard. No matter where you are, keep going. So clearly he's ambitious. So I think you obviously have the skill set to become one here.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Go.

[Mal]

Go for it.

[Rory]

Go for your dreams. Always go for your dreams when you can, while you can.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And thank you, America, anymore, for coming to our country, a country that's not yours, and volunteer well, dedicating your life to helping people. That's appreciated.

[Rory]

You said thank you for your service.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

He's not here yet.

[Damaris]

Okay. Well, he's doing what it has to do to. To get here. He's going through the steps that you have to do to become a doctor in America. He said that at the beginning of the voicemail.

[Mal]

We have to thank him for his service because as Americans, you know, traditionally, we've always loved the Iraqi people so much. Like. Like, that's why we went over there, because we wanted to help them so much.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So they. They're like. They're like Americans. So we have to thank.

[Julian]

We made them like us, so they're better now.

[Rory]

Thank you. Thank you. And everybody, all the boss you're welcome.

[Julian]

Honestly.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

If you think about it, you're welcome that we exist. And you're lucky.

[Rory]

It's a pleasure for you to know us.

[Julian]

Yeah. You're lucky to even have the option to come.

[Mal]

You're so lucky that you and your country had absolutely nothing to do with 9 11. Then we invaded you guys.

[Julian]

You're lucky we chose you. But you were the chosen one.

[Rory]

But, Boz, actually, you don't know how lucky you are.

[Mal]

You should listen to your partner.

[Rory]

Boss, let me. Let me help you out. Boss. You have no idea how lucky you are. Actually.

[Damaris]

Y'All are. Like.

[Rory]

I was hoping you go there. My bad. I'm sorry. Hey, Boz, we love you. Thank you. From all the way from Iraq. We appreciate you, bro.

[Mal]

But all jokes aside, though, if coming to America to be a doctor is your dream, follow that. But also maybe look into some other countries. Sometimes our dream is wrong. Like, Canada is pretty cool. You don't have to. You don't have to do America. Yeah, but if that's what.

[Rory]

But I get it.

[Mal]

If you always want to do it, go.

[Damaris]

Process is similar to it.

[Rory]

I get it, though, man. Because some of these people, they come from places where it's like, God, God damn. Like, I thought the projects here was bad. You go to some projects in some other countries, in some other parts of the world, you like, yo, like, this is crazy.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That people live like this. And that's a real thing. So, I mean, I understand why people look at America as a place because you. It's opportunity, it's education. It's, you know, also the best. It's some up things about America. But listen, it's. We can. We can be realistic. It's some great things about America as well.

[Mal]

Of course, that's where I think people get it fucked up when we critique America. Like, we're not appreciative of how great it is, but now we're just supposed to shut up. And not critiquing is what got us to a good place.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That's what created America. Let's keep critiquing and try to be the best that we possibly can be.

[Damaris]

It's like when you say you're having a bad day and people are like, what are you having a bad day for? Like, you have this, this, this, this and that. Yes, I do. And I'm very grateful. I'm still having a bad day.

[Mal]

Like, you know, some people died today. It's like, yeah, all right. Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Some people that. My parents were super, like, you know, there's kids that are growing up with no food and running water, and you're complaining. It's like. I'm sorry. You're literally emotionally abusing me right now. But I have food and water, so. Thank you so much.

[Rory]

This rich world.

[Mal]

Yeah. All that's your fault for raising me in this great place I. That I take for granted.

[Julian]

Yeah. All that stuff's real.

[Mal]

I'm a sad.

[Julian]

Yeah. I agree with what you guys said. It's your career. You get one shot at it. If you're hyper fixed on. On living and go for it. Life. Here. Come. Come here. And if. And if she's meant to be, and if she really wants to be with you, she won't. I. There's. It's not a dis to say take the easy way out and get.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Julian]

But, like, if she really wants to make this work, she'll do it with you. So.

[Damaris]

Yeah. It's not like you're asking her to do something that's, like, making her worse off. You're asking. It's something that is challenging to her. And yes, it's some extra work, but in the end, she'll probably end up a better doctor for it, so. And probably end up making a lot more money, so.

[Julian]

Yeah. And we really need your tax dollars to fund Israel, so. Please.

[Damaris]

And I ain't gonna lie to you, it's bad here. It's a lot of bad in America. I'm just letting you know, there's a.

[Rory]

Lot of bad in Iraq, too.

[Damaris]

Yeah, very true.

[Rory]

That is actually underneath all of the.

[Mal]

You know. Don't say it.

[Julian]

Underneath what mall?

[Mal]

Under what?

[Rory]

Let me follow the Garbs and what's it called?

[Damaris]

I thought he was gonna say rubble.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Is that what you thought I was gonna say?

[Julian]

You stole? That's.

[Rory]

I would never. I would never. Don't even. I'm not even. Do we have any more voicemails?

[Mal]

Wait, what?

[Rory]

No, just leave it. Just leave it. I'm trying to get us out of.

[Mal]

This, but I want to know now.

[Rory]

I know, but just leave it.

[Julian]

You know, just Barney's last name.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah. I mean, that was in the mid-2000s.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. They definitely rebuilt their society from the.

[Rory]

Do we have any more voicemail, please?

[Julian]

Yeah, actually, it's funny. We did this one because the next one has to do with. With the ability to improve your life economically in this country. We talked about capitalism. So a caller from South Africa. We're going international today. A caller from South Africa called in to critique Rory in Particular.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

On certain things that you said about socialism versus capitalism, I'm here to learn.

[Mal]

And I am admittedly stupid, so.

[Julian]

All right.

[Mal]

I would love. I would love a critique.

[Julian]

Here you go.

[Rory]

Hey, what's up, guys?

[Malcolm]

My name is Malcolm. I am from Johannesburg, South Africa. Shout out to my joburg people. And before I get into my voice recording, I. I just want to point out you gu. Have a lot of fans in South Africa. You know, just keep that in mind for when you're next planning your. Your, your trips, your international trips. But yeah, so I really appreciate the Patreon episode you guys had and the, the discourse surrounding the different economic and social systems and where you guys kind of stand on them. I've been in the US for seven years, and I found that because the US Is so imbued with capitalism, a lot of people don't know where they stand on things. So I think that conversation serves a greater purpose in kind of just informing people or even just getting people to think about things, you know, to kind of see where they. Where they stand on. On different topics. I do just want to make one correction to the conversation, and that's to Rory in, you know, expressing your. Your love for capitalism and, and the.

[Rory]

Red, white, and blue.

[Julian]

All right, go ahead.

[Mal]

My love for capital.

[Julian]

No, that's you. That's your show.

[Mal]

Let him keep going.

[Damaris]

No, Mr. Millionaire, you said you're happy that you were able to do what you did. No, you love capital.

[Mal]

Continue.

[Malcolm]

You are pointing out capitalism. You feel capitalism allows for some socialist components. That's actually not true. It's the other way around. Socialism has two forms, market and non market socialism. And in market socialism, there can be a profit incentive, which is capitalism. It's just in socialism that the means of production are controlled by the workers. So like a union. I think what Rory was speaking to was communism more so than it was socialism. I. I can't really get into it because it's a 90 second voice note, but. Shout out, baby D. I am a democratic socialist too. Love the podcast. You guys are incredible.

[Mal]

Shout out to Malcolm. And shout out to all our listeners in South Africa. We are fully aware of the fan base we have out there. Even we looked into trying to do a show there last year. Financially, it didn't make much sense, but it is like a huge priority for us to get out there. We are well aware of how many South African listeners we have, and we thank you so, so much. And thank you, Malcolm, for telling me I'm stupid, because you are correct. I don't love capitalism. The only thing I'm going to give some pushback to him on is when he says capitalism does not allow for any socialism. We have some socialism. There's redistribution of our taxes. When we were talking about calling the police, the police show up. That is a form of socialism to some degree. Our wealth is being distributed out. No. Is. Is Social Security not a form of socialism?

[Rory]

Well, I don't know if that's a. Well, yeah, I guess that's you in. In the context of what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I get it.

[Mal]

But he sounds obviously way more informed than I am. And on Patreon, I admittedly so did spew out a lot of. Of yelling. I was wrong and strong on a lot of stuff. And I. I like the approach.

[Rory]

I appreciate voicemails like that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like somebody that's obviously listening and, and has some critique or things they want to say in response to something that we said and informing us on where we were wrong. And I like that. I appreciate that. Voicemail shout out to Malcolm from South. South Africa.

[Mal]

Yeah. And I obviously need to do more research on stuff. Yeah, I can admit when I'm wrong about stuff. And I'm well aware that I sounded much more on the communism side, but I also feel that communism has a lot of socialism in it. So my point doesn't stand. But that was the approach I was taking. I'm always here to learn, always here to be wrong, especially when it comes to this type of. Because I. I would like to learn from people that understand it. So I'm not screaming and scaring Rel. Patreon.

[Julian]

That was a. Not to shamelessly plug Patreon, but that was a very good episode. That was a great conversation. So, yeah, I like when people, like, leave notes and actually to add more to the conversation. So.

[Mal]

And even, like, I know you. You always sift through the hate of comments and like, whether it be Reddit or somewhere else of like, Roy's idiot shovel politics. I hear y'all. But there are also like this, whether it be comments or voicemails, where people. Which we need more of, especially with this upcoming election of not attacking people when they're wrong, of like, just trying to inform them, like, hey, I hear you, but this is where you are incorrect. I'm much more.

[Rory]

I definitely appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[Mal]

Also, people that are wrong and strong, like me on topics need to humble ourselves and be like, all right, please, please correct me. No, Malcolm, I don't know what the fuck I'M talking about.

[Rory]

That's what Malcolm just did. He basically just told you to shut the fuck up.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Mal]

Super respectful way.

[Rory]

And let me. Let me help you out.

[Mal]

This is what I think America needs.

[Rory]

We need that. We need more Malcolm idiots like me.

[Mal]

Screaming, people like Malcolm approaching it that way, and then me being the idiot going, okay, you're more. Well, you're more well versed on this topic.

[Rory]

Progressive. Very progressive.

[Mal]

Let me. Let me look more into this.

[Rory]

I appreciate that, Malcolm. I saw. Well. Cause we're closing now, so I guess we can have our little sports talk. The AFC and NFC championship games are this Sunday. I had the Ravens winning man. But I saw Lamar Jackson interview, and I'm ready to take that back.

[Mal]

Why? What was in the interview?

[Julian]

What led you to believe that?

[Rory]

He said he hates competing against Pat Mahomes. Now, you can't say that going into the biggest game of your career.

[Julian]

That's an odd thing to say.

[Rory]

And it's like, lamar, we love you. We rooting for you. I want to see you get a ring. But I just don't. I can't. You can't say I hate competing against Pat Mahomes. You can't say that going into the game this weekend, like, it's just.

[Mal]

All right, well, let me. Let me shoot him a little bit of bail on that. But I do agree with you. If he said something about a player on the Chiefs defense or the defense as a whole, I'd be really worried. He doesn't really compete against Pat Mahomes. Well, like, Pat can't do something to have him shook on the field.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, well, he can.

[Mal]

If you talked about a linebacker, I'd be like, all right, this is. This is bad.

[Rory]

No, but I mean, in just the essence of competing, I have to. If Pat Mahomes goes out there and he starts throwing for over 500 yards, I have to match that or we're gonna lose. So it's a competitive thing there. Right. So I get it. We all know Pat Mahomes is great. He's a Hall of Famer. I believe Lamar Jackson is on his way to that as well. But you just can't express that before going into the biggest game of your career.

[Julian]

Yeah. Something that's left unsaid, I just feel.

[Rory]

Like just your psyche and your mentality and just your. You know, it has to be at a different place. Like, you can have respect for Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs, obviously, you know, one of the Greatest quarterbacks we've seen. We know that, but you can't verbalize it at the podium. In talking about the game. Looking forward to the game this weekend, that kind of worried me a little bit. That kind of just like, you know, like if I was putting money on this game, that would have scared me. So. I don't know, man. I'm rooting for the Ravens though. I want to see the Ravens get to the Super Bowl. I want to see the Ravens win it big. Lamar Jackson, fan.

[Mal]

Is Travis Kelsey the greatest tight end of all time?

[Rory]

Of all time. It's tough, man. You got. I mean, Tony Gonzalez was really good.

[Julian]

Yeah, Antonio Gates was great.

[Mal]

Antonio Gates.

[Rory]

Antonio Gates, one of the best fantasy.

[Mal]

Players of all time.

[Julian]

Ronowski, when I played Madden, he was a LT on the run and him in the, in the slot. I love that team.

[Rory]

Shannon Sharp. I mean, it's, I mean, to me.

[Mal]

Personally, I think it would have to be between.

[Julian]

Jimmy Graham was great too.

[Mal]

Tony Gonzalez, Gronk and Travis. Right?

[Rory]

Well, yeah, I'm not, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at it. Gronk, obviously is the name that's probably at the top of most people list right now. But I'm not mad if you feel like he's the greatest tight end.

[Julian]

I feel like that.

[Mal]

And it's kind of crazy that the era that we have between Brady and Gronk and Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey like to have that in one era more or less of like probably the greatest QB to tight end ratio we've ever seen is back to back. Yeah, like they played each other. That's, that's wild to me.

[Rory]

But either way, I think it's gonna be a great game. Shout out to the Detroit Lions as well. Detroit Lions 49 is in the NFC game. Championship game. That's gonna be fun to watch. And again, I would like to see the Lions just get to the Super Bowl. I think that would be great for Detroit, but I do, I do have the Ravens winning it all just for Ravens and Lions.

[Mal]

If neither of them make it, then I just want to see a good game.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

The Ravens make it. I'm going for the Ravens. The Lions make it. I'm going for them. If they go against each other, it's for the culture. It is for the culture. I just, I don't know. I feel like Detroit, Detroit is old one, man. Man, I think I, I'd go. Go Detroit. Sorry for not fact checking this. Did I say this correctly yesterday? That Jon Stewart is going back to the Daily Show.

[Julian]

They posted a photo on the Daily Show Instagram with him in the chair, and that's all I saw. I don't know if he's actually. It looks like he's hosting the. Oh, wow. That's awesome. He's hosting the election cycle. Oh.

[Mal]

So the year.

[Julian]

Yeah. Which. I don't know yet. What that. What that starts, he says, beginning Monday, February 12th. 12th, through the Monday after the Super Bowl.

[Rory]

What is that?

[Julian]

Duties on Monday.

[Rory]

Hosting dudes on Monday nights beginning February.

[Julian]

Oh, beginning. Okay, so that's. Yeah, he's starting the Monday after the super bowl, and we'll go through the election. So the year. That's incredible.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, people like him need to be on network television and things that are able to go on YouTube. Like, his Apple show is great, but it. Nobody sees it, like. Yeah, no one sees it, but it's great.

[Julian]

I love every clip from it, but I. I'm not.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, it's just inconvenient. It's just not something that people go to watch that type of content for. So, I mean, just to have Jon Stewart back on the Daily Show, I think that's incredible. What. Why am I blanking on the comedian that got caught lying about his prom, but then wasn't lying about his promise.

[Julian]

I just saw him outside of.

[Damaris]

Oh, sorry.

[Mal]

He. He would have been, in my opinion, the best replacement.

[Julian]

Well, when he did the prime to be. And then that whole thing came out.

[Mal]

He did the weak guest spot the way a bunch of other people did. I thought he by far did the best. Yeah, he. He was great on the Daily show, but I mean, yeah, we. We need Jon Stewart.

[Julian]

Yeah. I love Johnson.

[Rory]

No, we don't need Johnston. We need Jalen Brunson. He need to get some more MVP votes for Jalen Brunson. I think that if the Knicks finish top four, Jalen Brunson should be league mvp.

[Julian]

It's going to be tough. Joel just put up a 70 piece.

[Rory]

I don't give a fuck about that 70.

[Julian]

All right.

[Rory]

That seven. That's one game with Jalen Brunson. Yeah, but what Jalen Brunson has done for the Knicks in the city and just having the Knicks in the position that they're in, if they finish top four in the East, Jalen Brunson got to get some MVP nods.

[Julian]

I see us getting the five. That. Knocking off the.

[Rory]

That.

[Julian]

Actually, we could do the 41 game behind Cleveland. Yeah. Cause we can. We can leapfrog Cleveland's. That's Us. That's our spot to lose. Honestly, I don't see us. Philly, Bucks and Celtics are in another lane, but we can bump Cleveland for sure.

[Rory]

Jalen Brunson deserves mvp. I'm not saying he deserves to win it, but he should be a top three MVP candidate if the Knicks finish top four.

[Mal]

Remember last season on this podcast, I was telling you guys, I was debating if he is my favorite Nick ever. I, I think I've come to the conclusion he's my favorite Nick ever, all time. I.

[Rory]

That's tough.

[Julian]

I mean, that's tough.

[Rory]

How.

[Mal]

How is, how, how are you 32, 33.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Had a lot of favorite Knicks, but I. He brings better energy than Melo did the first season.

[Julian]

He's doing way more.

[Mal]

Like, this is a better. This is a better team to watch the past, past two to three years than it was when Stack and Mellow had that one great year.

[Julian]

I watch every Knicks game, like, religiously.

[Mal]

This is, this is my favorite Knick squad the past few years.

[Rory]

He's. He's your better all time Nick than Patrick Ewing.

[Mal]

I, I didn't, like, I sort of saw Patrick Ewing. Listen, this is how young I am. Well, I remember Patrick Ewing on the Magic.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, but, but, like, that's when.

[Mal]

I was, that's when I was watching basketball.

[Rory]

But Jalen Brunson didn't do nothing in the playoff. Like, I just. I, I.

[Julian]

What? He averaged 20.

[Mal]

Crazy.

[Julian]

Yeah, he averaged.

[Rory]

And when did they lose? Second round.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

As opposed to.

[Julian]

He did his.

[Mal]

As opposed to Mellow doing one round.

[Rory]

Saying, Pat went to the finals, though. Like, I, I was.

[Julian]

Honestly, admittedly, I don't remember. I was too young. I don't know.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's kind of crazy to say that. You old enough to remember the Knicks going to the, to the finals?

[Mal]

Vaguely. Because that was what, 94, 90.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, very vague.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Big matchup tonight. We play the Nuggets. So here you go.

[Rory]

Big game tonight. Hopefully the, the Knicks get this win. I think they, I think they could beat Denver and at home, I think they got a good shot. Denver's a tough team, but I think the Knicks got a good shot.

[Mal]

I can't.

[Julian]

I think if we had Mitchell Robinson, we would beat a lot of these teams we've been slipping to because where we're lacking.

[Rory]

And Isaiah Hartenstein is hurt now.

[Julian]

Yeah. We're lacking the big, like a comparable big. And we're still the number one rebounding team in the league, which is crazy.

[Rory]

Well, thank you for another well, no. Thank us for giving you another great audio journey.

[Mal]

Especially if you're in Iraq.

[Rory]

Especially if you're in Iraq. You have no idea how lucky you are, buddy.

[Mal]

Are there still Nets fans?

[Julian]

The nuts.

[Rory]

There's some Nets.

[Mal]

I'm glad I stayed 10 toes.

[Rory]

My dad's in that, man, but he's been a Nets fan since they were.

[Mal]

I'm glad when that whole Brooklyn Nets hype happened.

[Rory]

I'm.

[Mal]

I'm glad I stayed.

[Julian]

Oh, we got black jerseys.

[Mal]

The nest there was a damn in those early days, bro.

[Julian]

Cause that was whack. They tried to really take New York from the Knicks.

[Rory]

They. No, they didn't.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Rory]

They knew that they could never take. The Knicks is always going to be. New York is always going to be a Knicks town.

[Mal]

That's where I know my loyalty. Because the Knicks were making so many moves, they didn't give a about their fans. And then this flashy new team with cool jerseys and Jay Z was just a bridge, bridge over. And everyone jumped ship. And I sat there like, I'm being abused over here.

[Rory]

There's no. There's no hardcore Knicks fans that jump ship to the Nets.

[Mal]

No, I don't.

[Rory]

Does not happen. No, that does not happen.

[Mal]

But there were. There were times where I was like, I. If I'm out at, like, the bar watching the game, like, it seems fun to root for the Nets right now. I still was like, yo, them.

[Julian]

I don't root for the Nets.

[Mal]

Even when. Even when HOV tweeted the city's management.

[Rory]

It was tough to not root for the Nets when they had kd, James and Kyle. Yeah, like, that was tough.

[Julian]

Nope, Fuck him.

[Mal]

I still said fuck them.

[Rory]

Like, it was like, yo, they. They might. They might could win it all.

[Julian]

Them.

[Mal]

They a win, and they didn't.

[Julian]

Yeah. I mean, know that Jalen Brunson's going farther along.

[Rory]

Jalen Brunson is hooping, man. Shout out to Jaylen. Shout out to Julius.

[Mal]

Clean that up pretty quick. Yeah, sorry, I'm not allowed to say that.

[Rory]

We'll be back next week to talk to you. Kick it with y'all. Be safe. Have fun this weekend. We love y'all. I'm that he's a ginger. Peace.

[Damaris]

No worrying now.