Episode 244 | Trump Is Back & So Are We

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 244 | Trump Is Back & So Are We

Release Date: February 20, 2024
Hosts: Rory & Mal
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Introduction and Event Promotion (00:00 - 00:51)

Rory kicks off the episode by clarifying that "DMV" refers to the DC, MD, VA area, announcing an upcoming live show in Washington, DC, at the Howard Theater on March 23rd. He also promotes merchandise from his album, including slide socks and half-zip fleece, urging listeners to purchase before they sell out.

Notable Quote:
Rory [00:00]: "We will be live in Washington, DC, March 23rd at the Howard Theater. We cannot wait to come back to one of our favorite cities."

2. Eminem and Benzino Beef Discussion (02:29 - 08:59)

The hosts delve into the infamous beef between Eminem and Benzino, discussing past misunderstandings about the NAACP acronym. Rory admits to confusing "NAACP" with "UNICEF," leading to a humorous yet insightful conversation about racial terminology and associations.

Notable Quotes:
Rory [04:12]: "I was confusing that with NAACP with my whiteness."
Julian [05:04]: "That's the type of time he was on when you were gone."

3. Ruffles' Decision and NBA All Star Weekend (10:00 - 19:11)

The conversation shifts to Ruffles sponsoring the NBA All Star Weekend and their decision to exclude Chris Brown from the celebrity game due to past controversies. The hosts critique this move, arguing that many other individuals with questionable histories are still involved in major events. They advocate for more authenticity and relevancy in event sponsorships.

Notable Quotes:
Mal [12:15]: "You gotta stand in and back up your words."
Rory [14:43]: "People are sitting there like, what the. No, we're on Chris's side with this."

4. Critique of NBA All Star Events (20:00 - 28:19)

Rory and Mal extensively critique the NBA All Star Weekend, particularly the dunk contest. They lament its decline in quality over the years and suggest alternatives like one-on-one competitions or integrating social media-driven challenges to boost viewership and engagement.

Notable Quotes:
Rory [25:09]: "You have to be in the three-point contest. There is no avoiding it."
Mal [25:30]: "The NBA needs to implement a one-on-one for All Star Weekend."

5. Jon Stewart's Return to The Daily Show (71:03 - 74:19)

The hosts briefly discuss Jon Stewart's return to The Daily Show, praising his impact and expressing excitement over his approach to current political climates, including his critiques of both Trump and Biden.

Notable Quotes:
Rory [71:05]: "I like the approach that they're taking. Let's be honest with each other."

6. Audience Interaction: Content Creation Advice (125:08 - 132:13)

A caller named Glitch from Connecticut seeks advice on content creation, juggling a full-time warehouse job, living with grandparents, and aspirations to expand his YouTube presence. Rory, Mal, and Damaris provide nuanced advice, emphasizing the importance of mastering current content before branching out and leveraging platforms like TikTok for greater reach.

Notable Quotes:
Damaris [128:22]: "I feel like... keep it on the same channel and turn it into playlists."
Julian [128:35]: "Just make sure the thing that got you there stays the same."

7. Discussion on Prince and Michael Jackson (48:05 - 51:18)

In a lighter segment, the hosts debate a caller's claim that Prince attempted to run over Michael Jackson during a concert. They express skepticism, citing inconsistent stories and recognizing Benzino's emotional breakdown during an interview about Eminem.

Notable Quotes:
Mal [50:29]: "They didn't know what to say about that."
Rory [51:48]: "It's part of what I'm saying."

8. Festive Conversations and Pop Culture (56:00 - 104:45)

The latter part of the episode is filled with casual banter about various pop culture topics, including sneaker releases by Donald Trump, the Roots Picnic lineup, and interactions with celebrities like Drake and Vince Staples. The hosts share anecdotes from their experiences at music festivals and discuss the evolving nature of entertainment events.

Notable Quotes:
Rory [95:30]: "It was 20 minutes. That was like exceptional writing throughout the entire."
Julian [104:18]: "Yeah, it's its own thing. I'm just saying that."

9. Closing Remarks and Event Reminders (133:00 - End)

As the episode winds down, the hosts reiterate their upcoming event in DC, remind listeners about available merchandise and Patreon subscriptions, and encourage engagement through likes, comments, and subscriptions. They share light-hearted moments about past events and tease future discussions.

Notable Quotes:
Rory [133:26]: "Tickets on sale March 23rd. We are in D.C. at the Howard Theater."
Mal [133:27]: "Tickets on sale now. Merch available now newroarimall.com."

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Key Takeaways:

• Event Promotion: Rory and Mal actively promote their live event in Washington, DC, along with their merchandise and Patreon.

• Eminem and Benzino: The hosts reflect on past beefs and misunderstandings, offering insights into racial terminology and media interpretations.

• Sponsorship Critiques: They challenge the authenticity of event sponsorships, particularly questioning Ruffles' exclusion of Chris Brown, advocating for more consistent ethical standards.

• NBA All Star Weekend: A critical analysis of the dunk contest's decline with creative suggestions for future enhancements to maintain audience interest.

• Content Creation Advice: Providing actionable strategies for budding content creators on managing multiple platforms and ensuring content quality.

• Pop Culture Engagement: Engaging discussions on current and past pop culture events, blending humor with critical observations.

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This detailed summary encapsulates the rich and engaging discussions from Episode 244 of "New Rory & MAL," offering listeners a comprehensive overview of the topics covered.

Transcript

[Rory]

Dmv. I'm not talking about Department of Motor Vehicles, I think is what DMV stands for. DC, MD, VA. We will be live in Washington, DC, March 23rd at the Howard Theater. We cannot wait to come back to one of our favorite cities. Well, one of our favorite districts.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you will. So tickets are available [e-mail] Also, I have merch from my album. I thought it'd be different. Available at different merch shop. Slide socks, half zip fleece. They're moving fast. I know that's something people usually say, but they actually are. So get them well while they're available. But yes, that's pretty much it. Should we do like one of those corny paid in full like, yo, DC's ready for us.

[Mal]

Mitch, you just did it.

[Rory]

Okay, I ruined the joke.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They ready?

[Mal]

March 23rd. Howard Theater. See you there.

[Damaris]

New warrior now.

[Mal]

Yeah. Glo stomp a little pussy hoe with some shell toes.

[Rory]

Yeah. Glow.

[Mal]

Slapping rap bitches and making two tone cardi. Yeah. Match the nails ho.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Glow. No competition this stale hoe.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I missed you guys.

[Mal]

Heart.

[Damaris]

Happy belated Valentine's Day chaos holiday. Why are you throwing up blood?

[Rory]

Like this is blood.

[Damaris]

No, bring your thumbs down. There you go. That's a heart.

[Julian]

They do it differently now, though.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, like that.

[Julian]

How you do that?

[Rory]

Which one is that? Like an inclusive heart for everyone.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's like this finger is an index finger.

[Damaris]

It's so stupid. I hate that.

[Julian]

They do it like a dead ass. I dead ass. Can't do it. I'm not. This makes me.

[Rory]

No, no. Put it together and make a heart fam.

[Julian]

How do you do it?

[Rory]

Like this.

[Julian]

Wait, Ral. Do it again.

[Rory]

We spent spend 12 days in LA and now at. Look at all these hand. Hand signals we're trying to do.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Julian]

I am my. I'm.

[Rory]

Anyways, great rolling start. We're back.

[Julian]

Arthidic. I got arthritic gang signs, blood.

[Rory]

Oh, come on. Just all the gang signs. We're not that podcast. I don't know if we can get away with.

[Damaris]

Who is that podcast?

[Rory]

No jumper. Am I wrong? Vlad? Those are the gang podcasts. Those are the guys that are really in the streets. Hey, everyone, we're back. Back in New York. We were hidden in the hills for a long time. Almost his hotel. I'm happy to see you're okay.

[Mal]

I'm good, man. I'm like 85%. I'm feeling much better, though.

[Rory]

I was getting a little worried.

[Mal]

LA tried to kill me. I Don't know what was in the air, but some. Something got me.

[Rory]

And I would really call you if that's how you went out in la. Like, not gang related. I would call myself some, you know, robbery gone wrong. The flu.

[Mal]

The flu. I'm back, though.

[Rory]

Are you.

[Mal]

I'm back. Let's go. What's up, Julian? Because you. You asked me earlier. You said earlier. I want you to react to something I said or something that was said.

[Julian]

All right? So I know you didn't watch or listen to the episode that Rory and I did together.

[Mal]

I was watching God.

[Julian]

Good.

[Rory]

But there was watching like his eyes were watching God.

[Julian]

There was one thing Rory said in particular that I wish you were there for this moment. We were talking about the naacp.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Rory thought the N in double ACP stood for something else.

[Rory]

No, he.

[Mal]

No, he didn't.

[Julian]

I swear to God.

[Mal]

What'd you think it stood for, nigga?

[Rory]

No, not that.

[Julian]

Ralph. Yes.

[Mal]

He did stuff for Negroes. He.

[Rory]

At one point, didn't it?

[Mal]

No, never.

[Rory]

It's never. Which was the college fund one?

[Mal]

I don't know what you're talking.

[Damaris]

I know what you're talking about.

[Rory]

There was a college fund one.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That the end did not stand for.

[Mal]

The N word, Negro. Yeah, well, you can say.

[Rory]

See, you guys aren't gonna get me.

[Mal]

What you mean, negro?

[Rory]

I'm not saying that. No.

[Mal]

What if you're talking about a company or an organization, you can say that, but no, naa. In an naac.

[Rory]

You thought the end stood for the United College Fund. That's the one.

[Mal]

Unicef. You talk about unicef.

[Rory]

I was confusing that with naacp.

[Damaris]

UNICEF is not.

[Mal]

No, yeah, that's what he. That's what he's looking.

[Rory]

Alice from right here. Yeah, you. Yeah, well, close. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I was like. I'm like, UNICEF has nothing to do with any of that.

[Rory]

Okay, Well, I thought at the time in my head, naacp. I confused the two with my whiteness. And yes, I thought the end. And it took me a second.

[Mal]

Oh.

[Rory]

To realize that, oh, the N stands for national.

[Julian]

That's the type of time he was on when you were gone. He was taking chances.

[Mal]

But, see, he was only comfortable saying that around you. Why? You got to ask yourself, why was he that comfortable Say, see, don't tell me what somebody said about me. Tell me why they was comfortable enough saying it to you.

[Rory]

Well, I wasn't calling you that word.

[Mal]

No, no.

[Rory]

And I. And I wasn't saying the word. I was alluding to it. And then it took me a second to realize they Were like, you're scared to say the word national.

[Julian]

And then he did. Rory did a modified version of the sign off where he was like. He took a beat and said, I'm going to say it. So we'll just pretend Mo says it. He says, and. And I'm just ginger. So he mentally said it.

[Rory]

No, I didn't. No, I just mentally. Yeah, no, I went just with the bpm. I just went off the beach. I didn't. I didn't have to save my head.

[Mal]

Okay, okay, I got. I got you.

[Rory]

Anyways. Yes, we did a. We did a sick game mall last minute, you know, was. I tried a temperature of. Of God knows what.

[Mal]

Oh, my goodness.

[Rory]

I tried and left a very tired Julian and I to. To try to knock out an episode.

[Mal]

And half a Patreon, but you guys made it through. Thank you.

[Rory]

Yeah, we did. We were doing a lot that week. I'm really excited for everyone to see what we were shooting over the course of the last however many days in Los Angeles.

[Mal]

We were in L. A for a week. Shot some cool stuff that we'll be giving to.

[Rory]

To the people soon since we're working so much. I didn't do much of anything. I don't really have any, like, cool L. A stories to report back with.

[Mal]

Yeah, this trip was 72 hours straight in the hotel room for me. Yeah.

[Rory]

I think for the most part, outside of one night, I think the whole crew kind of just chilled and didn't really do much.

[Mal]

Well, I cursed Julian out because out.

[Julian]

Three nights I stayed.

[Mal]

I stayed at.

[Rory]

I heard about one.

[Mal]

Yeah, I stayed at the dream where Sadiq was at the highlight room. So Wednesday, at the height of my death, Julia lets me know Thursday when I saw him, like, oh, man. Last night, man, we were at highlight. I said, oh. So while I was a few floors.

[Rory]

Down, dying right below, I was two steps.

[Mal]

I said, you was stomping them up. You were stomping above my head at highlight room, you and Sean Dickerson. I said, you didn't even come downstairs to check on me. Fuck you, Julian.

[Rory]

So I couldn't obviously go to highlight room because of prior family engagements, but I'm starting to think that might have just been my excuse. I think I'm pussy.

[Mal]

Why is that?

[Rory]

The last seven times that I've been to highlight room, I've seen Chris Brown, okay. And it's been a. It's been a very good exchange. Anytime I go to highlight room, I'm assuming that I'll probably see Chris Brown. It's not in the back of my head. Because that's kind of weird.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, oh, I get to see Breezy today.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But he's usually there.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Had I been free, I still think I may have skipped highlight room because I don't know if I'm ready to have that exchange in public.

[Mal]

But what exchange, though?

[Julian]

I. I had it. Not with Chris, with Sean.

[Rory]

Okay. But I'm talking about with Chris Brown in person, with cameras around. Because. No, because no matter what, especially in that setting, I'm going to backtrack a bit. I'd be like, yo, bro, you know we share the same birthday. Like, you should understand.

[Mal]

That's.

[Rory]

You should understand, like, how my brain works. And, like, I wasn't trying to disrespect you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No matter how that conversation goes, no matter what, Julian, as he should, and Sean, as he should, as friends and coworkers, are going to film it. And no matter what, I'm not going to look good in the video. Even if I was trying to look tough, it still wouldn't have worked out.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because I have the fear that he can do a backflip without a running start, and my jaw would get hit in the middle of it. So I would be on pins and needles the whole time. I would have saved myself the possible embarrassment and not went.

[Mal]

But why, though? What do you think Chris gonna do when he see you?

[Rory]

I don't think. Well, I mean, I don't.

[Mal]

He. I know what he's. He's gonna laugh.

[Rory]

He just said on Instagram story two days ago, he's. He's pyu.

[Mal]

So what does that mean?

[Rory]

I'm nervous.

[Mal]

I think that it'll be funny. Like, I think that he would probably just laugh at you, which is whatever.

[Rory]

I forgot what they were even trying to say. They were like, I'mma. Chris is a Pisces, like, non pyro. I don't want any static with someone that says that instead.

[Mal]

Why not, though?

[Rory]

Because I just don't. Because I'm. I'm a civilian.

[Mal]

I think.

[Rory]

I think it's not.

[Mal]

I think it'll be funny, though. Like, seeing Rory, like, just have that exchange. Because I'm not. I want to be there, but I'm not gonna say no. I'm just sit there and just laugh.

[Rory]

And I'm not trying to put this on Chris's.

[Mal]

If.

[Rory]

If he would have been like, some aggressor, done some dumb, he probably would.

[Mal]

Have laughed, of course.

[Rory]

But either way, I don't think it would have went in my favor. Perception Wise. So I probably would have. And call me pussy for it. I just would have kept myself out of a situation that wouldn't have went well.

[Mal]

So, Julian, you went to Hollate Room and you saw Sean and he had. Yes, he had a good conversation with you.

[Julian]

So. Because Rory wasn't there, I was the. The fall man.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And I let him know pretty early that I didn't say anything.

[Rory]

For those that don't know, Sean runs Sadiq Highlight Room on Wednesday nights. One of the best.

[Mal]

One of the best parties in LA by far.

[Rory]

That's our guy. Make your jokes. He's family, for real. He's very close with Chris Brown. Very, like, extremely close.

[Julian]

I've found that out to the point.

[Rory]

That I think he might take Chris aside if we were beef.

[Julian]

No, he would have. Nah, he would have taken Chris aside.

[Rory]

He's a way better customer at Sadiq than I am.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Probably way more spending way more money than you.

[Rory]

I drink Sean's bottles, Chris buys bottles.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

There's a difference.

[Rory]

Big difference.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Julian]

But he came up to me and we were chilling. We were just like, you know, catching up. And then the conversation turned. Cause maybe Night train, who was DJing, was playing maybe a Chr. And then the conversation just quickly became about that. And I was like, oh, shit.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And I was like, nah. But in the clip, I didn't even say no. He goes. I listened to the whole thing.

[Mal]

Yeah. Julian tried to clip him, like, you know, in the clip. No, no, fudge. That clip. I heard the whole episode shout out to shovel.

[Julian]

He just, like, went off about, like. He's like, I've been all over the world, Chris. Every room we go. He's like, doing the whole pitch from, like, a personal thing. He told me some pretty. Some things I can say on air, which I'll tell you guys off air about that situation. But he was very, like, open about his relationship with Chris and, like, how the whole situation went.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And I was like, bro, I just. I was trying to listen to this Chris record. Like, I got no skin in the game. I'm literally here because I like Chris's music.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like, that's why you're after Night Train. I'm like, play the next Chris record. Just keep them coming.

[Mal]

I don't want the next 20 minutes, nothing.

[Julian]

But they got to the point. We kept going. I was like, is this mother? Is he here?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

I was, like, nervous. I was like, am I about to get pressed? Because I was like, y'all being.

[Mal]

Y'all being Nervous of Chris Brown walking in the party is hilarious.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It would have been some more moment, like, well, guess who we have backstage? And then Chris walks out with a red rag. And Julian's like, yeah.

[Mal]

What did you say about Chris? He's right here.

[Julian]

I was just. I was nervous, but it was really fun. But it was. Yeah, that was a funny moment. And I told Rory the next day, and he was like, that's literally why I didn't go. He was like, I didn't want to.

[Mal]

He didn't want to have that conversation. No smoke.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

He didn't go because he ain't want to see Chris.

[Damaris]

It's just content.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, Sean.

[Damaris]

I mean, it's just content.

[Rory]

I talked to Sean on the phone the next day after we put that clip out. But then, for some reason, I feel like that day or the day before, somebody reposted the clip again and got another, like, resurgence, because people I've known for years, like, started commenting on it again, like, not in my favor.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I was like, damn, I thought. I thought we were friends.

[Damaris]

Like, not. And they always say, like, I with the boy Rory, but that is wrong. They always. They preface it with, you know, letting them know that you're. You're their friend, but you're wrong. Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. Well, I think we all know that by now.

[Rory]

Voc, who's my guy, commented and was like, it's cool. Rory thinks Prodigy is better than Jay Z. And I'm like, what? What are we putting these things in?

[Mal]

That is sick.

[Rory]

I don't think that test of sick.

[Mal]

Shit RP to P. Prodigy, though.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I think that's something that's going to follow us for quite some time. I don't know. Maybe I'll get. We're going to have to hit, like, foot. Someone is going to have to come with me. Two highlight room to make it look.

[Mal]

Nah. You gotta stand in and back up your words.

[Rory]

But, you know, I'm dumb, and I.

[Mal]

Wouldn'T just be like, yo. What you meant by that?

[Damaris]

Stand on big business.

[Mal]

You gotta be like, yo. Nah. Because right now, in the algorithms, Quavo is more popping.

[Rory]

You know how hard it would be to have that conversation in a packed club with the music that loud? And now I'm, like, whispering in his.

[Mal]

Ear, no, you ain't gotta whisper. Yo.

[Damaris]

Hey. Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, yo. Imagine. Imagine. You imagine at a club around a bunch of women at a party like, yo, Quavo. Like, who is this guy ruining the party?

[Mal]

Oh, man, I cannot wait for that day. To happen.

[Julian]

Well, Chris wasn't with us in la, but it seems like he had a rough time in Las Vegas this weekend.

[Rory]

Finally, I can be on his side in something.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

For those that don't know, Chris put up on his Instagram emails between him and NBA All Star Weekend about him. He was performing or playing in the celebrity game, I think, which later on they pulled out because advertisers said that they wouldn't put up ads if Chris was a part of the entire thing. Which then Ruffles put something up and said, we're not in it. And then Chris continued on to say Ruffles, like, I'll leak more shit, but this is corny at this point.

[Mal]

Well, I didn't know about any of this. I did. I remember Julian did send this to me the other day, and I read some of it just to keep tabs, you know, just to keep tabs on what was going on.

[Julian]

You know, who probably was eligible to play. But we're gonna ball too.

[Mal]

But wasn't invited, right? Yeah.

[Damaris]

Moving.

[Rory]

But who's not invited?

[Julian]

Oh, Cuevo Cabal.

[Rory]

He. He's already been an mvp.

[Mal]

I know he's already been an MVP of this.

[Rory]

This is.

[Mal]

Oh, this thing. Oh, that's.

[Rory]

That's the celebrity game.

[Mal]

But I don't understand. Why would they. Why would they. Ruffles. Well, Ruffles said that they didn't have nothing to do with it.

[Julian]

Well, he specifically called out Ruffles by name. I don't know why they were. I think they probably hosting.

[Mal]

They probably sponsored the. Yeah.

[Julian]

And. And they jumped to their own defense and said, nah, like, chill. We didn't make a decision.

[Rory]

Ruffles was suggesting that it was the NBA's decision, not ours. We never said we were going to pull out if you were playing, which could be true as well. But if they're the ones sponsoring the entire thing, I could see how Chris could put two and two together. Either way, I think when it comes to this stuff, stop asking Chris to do the Michael Jackson tribute, rehearse, do everything. Stop asking Chris to take NBA All Star Weekend to focus on this when he can get bags elsewhere. When you think he may be a liability already because this has happened to him a couple times.

[Damaris]

Yeah, just stop investing.

[Rory]

So stop, like, stop wasting this guy's time.

[Mal]

But okay, two things.

[Rory]

Either stop wasting his time or everyone not get over it. But time has passed, and you guys let a lot of other people with questionable history play all the time.

[Mal]

Questionable history is nothing to question. Like, we've. We Know that there's guys that have been honored and celebrated and things like that have awards named after them.

[Julian]

Karl Malone, last year.

[Rory]

Yeah. So like I'm saying, why are we now drawing the line at Chris Brown? I'm not saying Chris did not make a lot of mistakes in his past, but we're allowing so many other people with worst pass.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

To be involved in this shit and not pulling this sponsor pull out shit like either stop hitting them up or draw the line at everyone that has a questionable pass. Make a decision.

[Mal]

I mean, listen, me personally, shit like this, to me, depending on how you handle it, I think this is actually a win for you. I think this does more for your celebrity.

[Julian]

For who? For Chris?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

In what way?

[Mal]

Like if you, if you're, if this is, if this is the type of shit that's happening to you now, I think that there's even more of a demand to see you now publicly. So whenever you do pop out and do go somewhere, it's a bigger deal. It's like, oh, shit, like Chris is here or whoever is here because you know that a lot of events don't invite him or her. A lot of events don't want you a part of it and things like that. So when you are visible and you are at these public events now, it's a bigger deal.

[Rory]

And I think it also shows and I'm happy Chris, I hate the word exposed, but exposed this and put this on his story because it shows the support not only. Of course, we know the Chris Brown fan base is gonna ride with him.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But people that are not the Chris Brown hive were on his side. Which proves that this advertiser is.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

People are sitting there like, what the. No, we're on Chris's side with this. You invited him to play, let him play. Everyone's on this side. Clearly no one's going to turn off their TV because Ruffles doesn't want Chris Brown on the celebrity game.

[Julian]

Yeah, I've seen mixed. A lot of people are like, well, yeah, that's the consequences you get for your actions. That kind of thing. There was. I've seen both sides.

[Rory]

I saw, I saw much more in his favor that wasn't his fans. And on top of that, I never saw anyone suggest that had Chris Brown played, they would have not watched. Even the people that were like, yo, consequences. Still watching it, you know.

[Julian]

You know what sucks with this though?

[Rory]

They're still commenting on something regarding, regarding Chris Brown.

[Damaris]

But you can't, you can't blame. And I agree with You. But you can't blame an advertiser. If this is the advertiser that made that a decision. Not Ruffles, but another one of the advertisers. You can't blame advertisers for wanting to protect their brand and not wanting to have anything they're paying for be associated with someone who had domestic violence issues.

[Mal]

That's bullshit.

[Damaris]

No, it's not bullshit.

[Mal]

There's in the NBA right now that have domestic cases open right now. What's the difference?

[Damaris]

That's what the difference is.

[Julian]

That is.

[Mal]

All right, so now. So now you talking. So now you talk.

[Julian]

I don't deal with multiple conversations here.

[Mal]

Now you're talking about politics, though. I don't deal with politics.

[Damaris]

Okay. People who pay for advertising.

[Julian]

But mall.

[Rory]

So that's politics.

[Mal]

So cut the politics aside. This is what Chr. Just saying. This is all political.

[Julian]

No, but there's a lot to it because say. Say these brands. Say Ruffles. Sorry. Ruffle. It's a chip. Who gives a say? Ruffles ultimately works with Rihanna. And then Rihanna's like, well, this is the same brand that put on dust and like, they're. And now you're, like, sacrificing your relationship for potentially with other artists.

[Mal]

Is it Rihanna? Chris Kudo. Haven't they.

[Rory]

They've done music since they've been. They've been courtside together. They've actually been courtsided. An NBA game together.

[Julian]

They don't know. They don't follow that.

[Mal]

Oh, they don't follow that, though.

[Julian]

They don't.

[Mal]

They don't follow the fact that the two. You're so like.

[Rory]

They want Ruffles on the court, but they were courtside together.

[Mal]

They don't follow that. Like this. That's just. It's political.

[Rory]

All right, but let's go. Let's get out the hypothetical, because I actually believe Ruffles, when they came out after that and said it wasn't us, even though they were the ones sponsoring the celebrity game. So that means it was someone that was just doing overall sponsorship commercials throughout the entire All Star Weekend.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

At that point. How are you even attached to Chris Brown if you're just running ads throughout the entire weekend? Because you could say you're not attached to any specific NBA player. Ruffles would be the only one I could see that you guys could say. Could have a point. Because Ruffles is sponsoring the celebrity game.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

And Chris is part of the celebrity game.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

If you just running ads for All Star Weekend, you're not attached to Any player. Chris Brown is the one that's going to draw that line. I think this is absolute bullshit and he's being targeted in a space definitely other people should be.

[Julian]

I think your initial point is the point that makes the most sense in terms of if you know this is going to happen with him then don't invite him. Don't wait to your point. Don't waste his time. He can get money some doing something else. Let him spend his weekend somewhere useful. Just stop making him a part of shit where you ultimately pull the plug on.

[Mal]

Well listen.

[Rory]

And when you know how this shit works, when you send out decks to advertisers, it's going to have a list of either the potential or confirmed. Guess like Chris posted like a few days before the All Star game.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That they were pulling out. Ruffles was well aware of who was on that. That roster. That's why I actually believe Ruffles when they're like it wasn't us. He would have been known. Chris Brown was on this.

[Mal]

Yeah, it probably wasn't Ruffles but you.

[Julian]

Know, they're probably like sick. We got Chris word because he can ball.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He's actually going to watch. Yeah, he can dunk like well either way.

[Julian]

Flipping dunk.

[Mal]

Either way you look at it, the All Star weekend got a real problem. I agree from top to bottom. The All Star Weekend suffering these events. I don't even bother to watch the celebrity game. I'm just talking about the actual events with real NBA players. It's bad and I don't know if it's a competitive thing or just not the right players are agreeing to participate. But the NBA has to do something because I've been watching what seems like a decline for the past eight years maybe where it's just like it's progressively getting worse. Now the dunk contest, the last dunk contest I could remember that was really, really good was Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon.

[Julian]

That was great.

[Rory]

Which is what? 2014?

[Julian]

It was a while ago.

[Mal]

It was a while ago. But ever since then it's just to the point now with the finish the, the last. The two time defending champion is now a guy that's not even in the NBA. He's in the gym.

[Rory]

Not true.

[Julian]

He's a tick tocker.

[Rory]

He played for the Sixers for one weekend and he's playing for the Magic for one weekend. Oh well, whatever it was, don't they.

[Julian]

Have to like call him up?

[Mal]

Technically no.

[Julian]

He went on the roster 10 day contract.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So.

[Mal]

Well, let me know when he gets an NBA basket is all I'm saying.

[Rory]

Okay, but if you look at. I guess I don't have the answer to what the disconnect is. But outside of the dunk contest, you have the three point contest that Damian Lillard, Brunson, Steph Curry participated against.

[Julian]

That was cool.

[Rory]

I thought that all was really cool.

[Julian]

Stephen Sabrina was cool.

[Rory]

Outside of the dunk contest, you have everyone participating. I think the west, even though they lost, was probably the greatest all star team we've ever fucking seen.

[Julian]

Everyone on that team was a Hall of Famer.

[Rory]

Easy. I mean, Carl Anthony Towns I think is on his way. But yeah, everyone participated. So I guess not being a super sports person, I don't know. But there's a disconnect. Like it's not fun. But every all star you could think of is involved in it.

[Mal]

I mean, well, every.

[Rory]

All outside of the dunk contest.

[Mal]

The dunk contest is something that I think that they should and it's going to be hard to do that, but I think that they should just look to move away from the dunk contest for a few years.

[Julian]

They can't, bro.

[Mal]

You have to. I would. You know what I would like to see? I would like to see a one on one. And I know players are not gonna do it because it's ego and with social media last forever, but it's just like you have to bring something back or implement another event that's gonna get people to really tune in. And I think that they should do things like track little beefs on social media with players throughout the first half of the season when they play each other certain games and kind of gauge like who would be a great candidate for the one on one at NBA All Star Weekend. Like, you have to do something that's gonna get people to be like, oh shit, this is happening. Yeah, it has to be something like that.

[Rory]

Play 21.

[Mal]

Yeah, it has to be. It has to like play a one on one. Yeah. Like, you know what I. If you told me, yo, All Star Weekend, yo, Dame Lillard versus Fucking. I don't. Stephen or Kyrie. Everybody's watching that.

[Rory]

That would have worked. I think back in the day before there was so much commentary on TV and obviously on the Internet. Like I feel like in Jordan's era that they would have done that just because of scrutiny. They wouldn't have heard as much. Like if you lost, it wouldn't be the end of your career.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Now I feel like that's a social media nightmare. Like everyone's PR team would Be like, no, I don't care if you're Steph Curry.

[Mal]

If you lose.

[Rory]

Now you got, now you got an asterisk next to your name.

[Mal]

No, but that's the same reason why.

[Rory]

I think the dunk contest sucks. Because Braun never went in there because he never wanted an asterisk next to his name. And he could have carried that to make it more of a thing. Now it's just, you know, not bottom tier players by any means, but that.

[Mal]

Who cares if you don't win a dunk contest? Like that doesn't mean that you're not a great player. Everybody, it's only one winner every year. A lot of great players that were in dunk contests have lost. Nobody's like, oh, you lost that yinidunk. That shit doesn't. That's bullshit. A lot of these players are just avoiding this shit for whatever reason and they don't want to participate.

[Rory]

Ego.

[Mal]

And it's, it's all ego, ego, whatever it is. But it's like you just look at it now. A lot of these dudes are famous for shit that has nothing to do with basketball. A lot of these dudes are just fashionable. A lot of these dudes are just dating certain girls. And we know who they are. Get back to yo, you're at All Star Weekend because you're one of the best basketball players in the world. It has to get back to that all of this celebrity shit and see who's wearing what before the game and get fuck all. That's bullshit. I don't give a fuck what none of you niggas is wearing. Why are you at All Star Weekend? Are you one of the best in the league? Cool. You need to be doing something All Star weekend. Are you playing? No. You hurt. Okay, cool. In the three point like if you are, if you are in the league the first half of the season and you scored a certain amount of three point field goals, you should automatically have to enter the three point contest.

[Rory]

You have to the top.

[Julian]

Top five guys have cherry pick like yeah, that would you.

[Rory]

That would be fire.

[Mal]

You have to be in the three point contest. There is no avoiding it. Like that's what it has to be.

[Julian]

And like for the game itself, incentivizing players with a cash prize. Like what they did. When did they do that? For the in season tournament. Literally. Yeah, the in season tournament. Like that do a cash prize.

[Mal]

The NBA needs to implement a one on one for All Star Weekend. That's something that I think will definitely more viewership, more people will be Excited to see that. Like that's something that needs to happen. Bring into a one on one competition, into all star weekend. Get that skills challenge the out of here.

[Julian]

That shit is stupid.

[Mal]

That is terrible. These niggas is kicking the ball in standards now. Yeah, that's what they kicking the ball in the stand.

[Julian]

Kicking the ball.

[Mal]

Get that shit out of here, man.

[Rory]

You know, I think it was Droog who tweeted that the dunk contest now is like rap freestyles in 2024. It's cool, but we've seen it all.

[Julian]

It's not cool like it's cool to.

[Rory]

See someone freestyle now, but we've seen freestyles that are better since time. It was like really a thing that mattered. Now it's just a cool thing. Listen, would it be weird if they. If each NBA player did like a team situation with one of those IG TikTok dunkers, like the ones that are going crazy doing backflips at the ymca if you had to participate. But you also get somebody from social media that can do that way better than all of you. And it's two on two. Like one NBA player versus one NBA player versus one tick tock dunker and one tick tock.

[Mal]

Yeah, but she don't.

[Rory]

It's like the battle rap duo Tick.

[Julian]

Tock Dunkers was smoke.

[Rory]

But that's that you have to add in some flair to the.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's. But that's why I wouldn't be that interesting. Because the more interesting dunks would come from the tick tock or which.

[Rory]

Which is fine. But if you implement the better dunkers in the dunk contest into that stuff, you're still getting your NBA celebrity, but you're getting a more of an entertaining experience for the dunk.

[Mal]

Right. I know it's not a. It's not a terrible. At this point they need something.

[Rory]

They're literally bringing up old boy from the G League just to make it work the last two years. So why not get a tick tocker that can jump out?

[Julian]

The competition is to watch the best dunks that can be done executed. I don't care if it's an NBA guy dunking the ball put in the whiteboard.

[Mal]

No, but that's not what it's. No, no, no, no. That's not what this is.

[Rory]

I don't give a.

[Mal]

Who is the NBA.

[Julian]

Just show me cool dunks.

[Mal]

This is the NBA dunk contest.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

These are guys in the NBA.

[Julian]

Mac McClung is some. He's not an NBA player.

[Mal]

No, but I, I agree with you. But I'm just saying you can't bring in Tick Tockers now to start doing it because now you might as well do this All Star Friday night and let them have that Friday night. Let them do this Friday night.

[Julian]

They did. If they said, hey, we'll, we'll honor two separate dunk contests. One for the tick tock, like dunkers.

[Rory]

And you can't put them as opening card cuz.

[Julian]

Cuz it's better.

[Rory]

Cuz they would look nuts. The NBA players would look nuts.

[Mal]

Of course I agree with you. That's why you can't do it on the main night. You can't do that. Might as well just get rid of that, bro. I'm telling you, implement a one on one game.

[Rory]

It's probably still the number one rated thing. Outside of the actual game though, between three point skill challenge and celebrity. Remember when they used to do rookies versus Sophomores? It's still the dunk contest is the pull.

[Mal]

I guarantee you.

[Julian]

What's it called? Rising Stars versus They do, they did a variation of the rookie version.

[Mal]

That's what I'm telling you. I guarantee you if next year All Star weekend they implement the first one. Well, they used to have one on one challenges. I don't know if it was All Star Weekend, if it was like some charity game shit, I don't know. But I remember seeing Dr. J versus like Kareem Abdul Jabbar. So it might have been the All Star Weekend. One on one. Bring that back. Bring back the one on one. You're going to see a higher viewership than you've seen probably in the last 20 years. Without question, guaranteed. The NBA has to do something because that's.

[Rory]

Steph would be, that'd be higher ratings than the finals.

[Mal]

This is. Are you kidding me? Like that's what I'm saying. They have to bring something. They have to implement something because at this point this shit is approaching Pro bowl level. Nobody watches the Pro Bowl. Like who watches that shit? I don't know anybody that'd be like, yo, what you doing? Watching the Pro Bowl?

[Julian]

Yeah, flag football. I'm watching flag football.

[Mal]

Nobody watches that. So I don't know. But the All Star Game I guess was cool. Whatever. Shout out to the east, they won't most points scored in the All Star Game history. Shout out to Dame Lillard All Star Game mvp.

[Rory]

And I mean to close the Chris thing, I'm not comparing what happened, but you got Draymond shanking people Vigilantly from. From across the court. But Chris can't get in the Ruffles game.

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah, it's just. It's political bullshit.

[Rory]

Why was, like. Why was that okay? Am I the only one that found that. Fucking nuts. This is like, being threatened on the yard.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, you know.

[Damaris]

Yo, he's so sick, bro.

[Julian]

Yeah, that is sick.

[Rory]

He's not lying. I could see it in his eyes.

[Julian]

No, he's dead ass.

[Damaris]

That's my boy. I love him.

[Rory]

I love him, too. No, I don't, but I.

[Mal]

With Draymond scares me. He scares you?

[Damaris]

Of course he does.

[Mal]

You're such a pansy.

[Julian]

Did you see it? Well, I'm joking, but did you see him with Taylor Rooks last night? They were. He was in his full, like, comedy bag. He was, like, the funniest, nicest guy with her. They were doing a little, like, live.

[Mal]

I mean, you know, when a pretty girl's in the room, you got. You got to dig into your best joke bag.

[Julian]

You know that he was smiling the whole time. It was hilarious.

[Rory]

Somebody compared to. They put a compilation of charlamagne anytime Cardi B is on the Breakfast Club with Charlemagne. Just. He does not stop laughing out of his chair, like, he's like, hey. That's what. They were comparing Draymond and Taylor, which, by the way, was the best part, I feel, of the All Star game, was the new crew.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Taylor, Chuck, and Draymond was. Was great.

[Julian]

Chuck was getting his shit off.

[Mal]

No, Charles Barkley is a character.

[Julian]

And Kenny was drunk.

[Mal]

Kenny was going crazy.

[Julian]

He went a little too crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah. Saturday. He went crazy. Yeah, he went crazy Saturday. I ain't gonna. Kenny was gonna get suspended for a few weeks off air.

[Julian]

What he said about Sabrina was so bad.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, Stephen, Sabrina thing. I get it. Sabrina called Steph out, and it was. It was great sportsmanship of Steph to accept that and show up. But I think I could tell when Steph took his foot off the gas a little bit. He ain't. He didn't want to totally embarrass Sabrina, but he went out there and showed everybody that. Listen.

[Julian]

Now, see, the way you're even putting that out there is disrespectful to Sabrina. Sabrina could shoot her ass off. And that's the one event where it's like, it doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl. Shoot or shoot.

[Rory]

First of all, they shoot from a different three point line with a different weight ball. Let's start there.

[Julian]

She shot. She shot from the men's line. And she went first.

[Rory]

I. And I'm saying that's not.

[Mal]

Well, it's not.

[Rory]

Shooter. Shooter. At that point, it is shooting from further away.

[Mal]

Okay. Yeah. Sabrina is a. She's a. She's a great shooter. I'm not arguing she's a lady, Nick. But I think that I. I do think that Steph went out there. He won. But I do think that. I don't think that he was out there giving it his all. Like you're tripping. I don't think it was. I don't think so.

[Julian]

He made 29. He only missed like two, three times. Sabrina missed one shot in her first five, six shots. Like it was a good. Sabrina's score tied. Dame score that won the actual competition.

[Mal]

I'm talking about Stephen Curry, though, who we know is the greatest shooter ever.

[Julian]

I know, but you can talk about him without belittling.

[Mal]

What has the highest score in three point shootout?

[Julian]

Sabrina has the highest score.

[Mal]

Sabrina has. Does not have a highest score than Stephen Curry. And she does.

[Julian]

She has the record for three point. Whatever it's called the competition.

[Rory]

But didn't she lose?

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Like, what's your mind in WNBA also No.

[Julian]

Like, in total.

[Rory]

How could she do that if she lost?

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Julian]

All right, well, in the NBA.

[Mal]

In the NBA three point shootout, Steph Curry has the record. That I do know.

[Rory]

But also that night. How?

[Mal]

Well, I don't care. That wasn't. That was just a. Yeah, she scored.

[Julian]

37, which is 40. That's the record. Either way, NBA or WNBA, she has the highest score.

[Rory]

I hope they continue doing destinous. I'd love to see Caitlin Clark do this.

[Julian]

Oh, this season.

[Mal]

Sorry, you're like, what are you talking about?

[Julian]

Sorry. Hold on. Because I know she has it. Shut up. I'm talking because I know she does.

[Damaris]

Spazzing up.

[Mal]

You don't know. You're wrong right now. Shut the up. Is he talking about you're wrong. Stephen Curry has the record. I know what I'm talking about. But anyway, that was a cool little thing for Sabrina to call Steph out and Steph to accept it and then go out there and, you know, be Stephen Curry next year.

[Rory]

I'd like to see Caitlin Clark vs. Dame or some shit like that.

[Julian]

That'd be fire.

[Rory]

Because I mean, obviously she has potential to be one of the greatest shooters ever. More importantly, mall. I didn't really care about your NBA All Star takes. I'm sorry, I just didn't thought it was underwhelming. I was more concerned on if you were going to come in here today and defend your father in law.

[Mal]

Who's my father in law? Benzino.

[Rory]

Big, big Zeno. Big Boston.

[Mal]

It's weird that you call him my.

[Rory]

Father in law, but coy Larae is. Is your. Your wife? No. You've come on here plenty of times and saying that's your queen. That's. That's the one you die for.

[Mal]

Never said that. Said she's beautiful, she's talented.

[Rory]

Okay, so in pod world, that makes Zeno your. Your father.

[Mal]

You go together because I say he's beautiful and talented.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

100.

[Mal]

Okay, well, I didn't know that.

[Rory]

Welcome. So that's your queen, Mike. That's. That's your rib coil.

[Mal]

Hooray. Is my ribs okay? I'm here to learn, man it.

[Rory]

So Benzino was on Drink Champs, which actually the full episode is great. But of course him having a meltdown is what went viral. Naturally. They asked him about Eminem like they do with every Benzino interview, which he should probably know by now. And I think he had had a little, little too much of the juice and was a little emotional and had a full fledged breakdown and started crying. I don't know if this is the first crier on Drink Champs, but it was bound to happen with the amount of alcohol that's there. Yeah, somebody had to cry.

[Mal]

Well, Benzino's a crier. He's. We've seen.

[Rory]

He's an emotional crime.

[Mal]

He's crying on TV a couple times. The, the last thing I can remember is I think his, his, his ex wife or one of his baby mothers. He was crying outside of her house because she's with a new guy and she had him arrested. She called the cops and he was crying in that clip. And I think we've seen him cry in loving hip hop a couple times for sure. So he's a crier. He doesn't mind letting. He's.

[Rory]

He's an emotional guy that I promise you still will knock you the fuck out.

[Mal]

Yeah, one of those guys. He's probably crying cause he doesn't want to knock you out. Cause I know a guy that used to do that. He used to get emotional like, yo, don't make me do this to you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I feel that.

[Mal]

Like, don't let me. Don't make me do this to you, man. Like. Cause I'm gonna really get up from here and put these hands on you. You don't want that.

[Rory]

It's going to Affect me more to kill you.

[Mal]

It's going to hurt me more than.

[Rory]

It'S going to hurt you, which I always like. I always.

[Mal]

I just got to be dead.

[Rory]

You're not.

[Mal]

It's going to hurt me to have to hurt you.

[Damaris]

When your mother used to whoop your ass and say that, that used to piss me off.

[Mal]

Yeah. I used to like my. That. There's no way that hurts you more than it just hurt me.

[Rory]

I'm hurt right now.

[Mal]

Yeah. My back is. I have welps all over my.

[Rory]

You had time to think about it and tell you're fine.

[Mal]

I was wet. I just got the shower.

[Rory]

This was premeditated.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Anyways, can we play some of this clip of Benzino's meltdown?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

And then again, some of them against.

[Julian]

Some of them, they can rap.

[Rory]

I think it's gonna be. I care about us more.

[Mal]

I don't want to go through. I want to talk about it no more. I want.

[Rory]

For 22 years, every time I do.

[Mal]

An interview, they asked me about Eminem.

[Rory]

The you want me to do stop doing interviews.

[Mal]

My daughter came into the industry figuring that, hey, I gotta be cool with Eminem because everybody's against my dad.

[Julian]

So. What's weird about this, though, is at the beginning of this interview, he was very much, like, popping, like, Eminem.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Straight up saying, eminem.

[Julian]

Eminem. I don't give a. About it.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julian]

And then like, an hour and a half later.

[Mal]

Well, that's.

[Rory]

That's how alcohol works.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's how. That's how, you know the liqueur, once it's in your blood, it starts to, you know.

[Rory]

The spirits.

[Mal]

Yeah, the spirits. It brings out the spirits.

[Julian]

And you should use this for an ad.

[Rory]

Should they?

[Julian]

The truth teller.

[Rory]

I don't know if the French are going to co. Sign.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't think they want to tell the truth, actually. I'm hoping that. They probably hope they don't pan to any alcohol on the table. That was theirs.

[Rory]

I'm surprised they didn't pan to Nori's face because I'm sure he was dying laughing.

[Mal]

Oh, 100%. 100%. I mean, I get it, though. Like, I. If I'm Benzino, I am tired of people asking me about Eminem. I understand that part. Like, yo, why y'all? I don't care. Like, Benzino is, what, 60 years old?

[Rory]

Probably somewhere close to it.

[Mal]

Like, at this age, why are we. We supposed to be chilling 58. 58. We supposed to be chilling My daughter's in the industry. She's successful. She's been on stage performing at a Beyonce show. Like, why am I still talking about a beef that we had when we were, like, in our 30s?

[Rory]

But if you want to continue to do interviews, which Benzino has the right to do, and quiet is kept one of the best interviewees. Like, if you go through his catalog of interviews, his story is incredible. I know we like to clown Benzino, but his story is great. He tells incredible stories, vivid stories. He's a part of hip hop. He should continue to do them. But you don't think people are going to ask after this many years. Kind of the only real asterisk next to Eminem's name, as far as his legacy goes, you don't think people are going to bring that up when Benzino was the one on the other side of that?

[Mal]

I'm not saying don't bring it up, but how. For how many more years do you have to bring that up?

[Damaris]

Well, I mean, it just resurfaced again because they were just. They just wrote diss tracks to each.

[Rory]

Other the other day.

[Mal]

But that's what. Again, that's part of. That's part of what I'm saying. Y'all are still at this shit after all of these years. Like, so I understand that part of Benzin. Like, I'm tired of this shit. Like, it's been 20 something years of this shit. Like. Like, we get it. It happened. It was a moment. We understand what it was about. But Benzino has other. Other shit that he could be talking about. He's done a lot in the music business and entertainment. Like, he's done a lot. But aside from the Eminem beef, So I understand him on that. It's just like, come on, man. I don't want to keep talking, but.

[Julian]

In this, at one point, he literally said, let's talk about. And that's why y'all are here, right?

[Rory]

Like, he went on a whole rant about it before we got to this.

[Mal]

Benzino said that? Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Well, because he understands that. Like, let me guess. Like, it's kind of like, all right, like Damaris said, we just had a little spat again, for however many of time. That's what y'all want to talk about.

[Julian]

If, you know, you're that sensitive about the topic and would prefer not to speak on it, why would you.

[Mal]

It's not about being sensitive to the topic. It's just that at 58 years old, right, and Benzino's lived a life. He's Seen a lot of shit, been through a lot of shit, accomplished a lot. He's going through a lot. You know, we know his daughter. His relationship is kind of strained there. So it's a lot going on with him. I can understand how he's at a point in his life now where he's just like. Like, bro, I'm tired of talking about this shit. Like, I don't want to talk about this Eminem beef no more.

[Rory]

Like, I mean, but I. I can relate to some degree of feeling away about certain questions or why we're talking about it. But when you've actively participated. Participated in it, even if you were the one just replying and not the one starting shit, yeah, no matter what, when you go out, people are gonna ask you about that. So if you're prepared to go do an interview or a press run or whatever it's gonna be, you need to be prepared for those questions. Cause they're gonna happen no matter what. Even if you think this shit has played out, even if you feel like you've been on the other side and haven't said shit, you've still participated 100%. And people are gonna ask about it 100%. So your feelings on it don't matter when it comes to this type?

[Mal]

No, your feelings can still. Just because you participated in it doesn't mean that you're not tired of people asking about it or talking about it or bringing it up. Like, Eminem came at him. Yeah, but he has a right to defend himself and get in the booth. And this is still hip hop, so. But I can still understand, even through all of that. Rory, your point is valid, but I can still understand on the other side of that, too, it Benzino like, yo, I'm tired of this shit, though.

[Rory]

But you don't get to decide. And I learned this the hard way, you don't get to decide when the rest of the world is over it or when people decide to reply. Because for years, Benzino, even after the whole source shit, even after the dust settled with the Eminem N Word tapes and everything, Benzino was still doing interviews and discussing that entire thing. Yeah, we know. M kind of disappears for a while, then comes back when you're on M time. He may reply to that shit three years later. And that's what happened. Benzino can't do years and years of interviews about M. And just because M doesn't respond in a timely matter, he can't get upset now because M decided to come out of his cave and say, yo, I can't go at Benzino's neck because he doesn't have one.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

Which was funny. Yeah.

[Mal]

No, I get it. I mean, listen, it's just. It's part of. It's part of the sport. But I'm just saying, like, I can understand at the same time, a guy just being like. Especially, like I said at 58.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's like, bro, like, come on, man. Like, this shit is like, let's move on from this shit. Like, you know, including Benzino. Like, you know, so whatever Em says, like, stop responding. You don't have to respond. Everything doesn't warrant a response. We know that. And if you. If you're tired of it, then be tired of responding to it as well. You know what I mean? Like, be tired of responding to it. We had to learn that as well. It's like, just move on, man. Just let people say what they gonna say. No matter what you say, people gonna have an opinion, people gonna have a response. And if you keep responding to a response, you'll be responding for the rest of your life.

[Julian]

But it's different. You brought in you guys as an example, but, like, in your case, your tonality and what you said never changed. You know, I mean, like, you guys. And then. So, like, the point being Benzino sounded like this at the beginning of the interview.

[Mal]

We here tonight, huh? Eminem and. Everybody down with Eminem and my thing is this, bro.

[Rory]

My thing is this.

[Mal]

This.

[Rory]

This is just an example of how.

[Julian]

Yeah, but the point is, like, you guys never.

[Mal]

It wasn't.

[Julian]

I don't know, sad energy, like, in. In one. Your response video, you were like, hey, his. It wasn't like, at the. At one point, you guys were, like, boisterous and, like, cut and doing all that we drink. You could compare.

[Rory]

You could compare some of this to. Even though I think it's much different when you add context to it. You can compare this to me and leave me alone. I don't think that there's a big difference, but I could see someone on the Internet that's viewing this from the outside looking in and only sees, like, the clips.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you put the right video together and put those side by side without any context, I would look like a hypocrite.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And we're on the Internet, so context is.

[Mal]

But that's what editing does. Editing. Editing has the ability to make you look like a hypocrite for sure, so.

[Rory]

And we all are to some degree. Yeah, but I don't. I mean, I guess Zeno just needs to pick A side of putting all his business out there and living on that hill. Or just don't do it at all, because you've done a lot of stuff with your daughter, which we've disagreed with on this podcast about just airing out family business, but that's what you've decided to do, and that's your family and your child. So you have every right to do what the fuck you want to do.

[Mal]

Mm.

[Rory]

Pick a side. Pick a side.

[Mal]

I agree. I. I just think that Benzino, honestly, bro, just, you know, enjoy life, man. You. You at that age where this type of shit is something that shouldn't even be on your radar. You should be, you know, playing golf, you know, on vacation. You know, just that type of, like, hip hop has to. Has to age gracefully, man. Like, we gotta. We shouldn't be in our 50s beefing. Like, what fucking. What other job are people beefing in their 50s? Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Is that a job you want to be in when you have to beef in your 50s?

[Julian]

Jobs?

[Mal]

Beefing? I mean, what's most jobs you beef at in 50 years old?

[Rory]

50?

[Mal]

I guess not. Send that text, man.

[Rory]

I know, but he. I mean, he replied in his 50s. No.

[Mal]

Yeah, but beefing. I mean, I'm talking about beefing.

[Julian]

Beef.

[Damaris]

They're not really.

[Mal]

Not disagreements. Everybody. You have disagreements the day you die. I'm talking about beefing.

[Damaris]

But are they genuinely beefing? Are Benzino and Eminem gonna run into each other and fight?

[Mal]

If I. If. I think if Benzino and Eminem walked off the elevator, saw each other, it would be some static. Yes.

[Rory]

I do think Benzino would swing and.

[Julian]

Would hit him in the head with a coffee pot.

[Mal]

Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. Beef and disagreements are two different things. You can have disagreements at work, and I'm talking about beefing where it's like, yo, when I see this, yo, we might tear this whole up if we bumped into each other. Only in hip hop does that happen. Only in this culture does that happen.

[Damaris]

So what's your age limit on beef?

[Mal]

Me, I don't have beef with nobody at my age.

[Damaris]

What I'm saying is, what's your age? Because there's some people that, if you saw, you would swing on them. So if you were in the same room with them, you might swing on them.

[Mal]

So me?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

No, it's not. I don't have nobody that I would swing on if I saw them right now in a room.

[Julian]

You just shoot them.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Who would I swing on? I don't have anybody in my Life that I would swing on right now if I saw them.

[Rory]

Well, that's evolved. Because I feel like a year ago that wasn't the case.

[Mal]

I just said today. Now I don't have nobody in my life.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. And I'm not. And I'm not 50. Like, so I could. Like at 58.

[Damaris]

But that's why I'm asking. What do you think that there's an age limit?

[Rory]

I don't think there's an age limit. Limit if it's warranted. I don't think there's ever an age limit.

[Mal]

Yeah, if it's on beef.

[Rory]

I think petty beef you should probably fix in your 30s.

[Mal]

What beef would you have at 58 years?

[Rory]

Beef.

[Mal]

I'm talking about beef from when they.

[Rory]

Were in their 20s and 30s.

[Mal]

Get the number 58.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm not beefing with nobody for 30 years.

[Mal]

Don't cook that beef. Go pull up on that 50. You think I'm a whole beef with somebody for 30 something? I'mma get the drop on that. With 30 something years. And you ain't shake nothing yet. That ain't beef.

[Damaris]

That ain't beef.

[Mal]

Yeah. Beef is two summers, and one of y'all niggas is dead on.

[Rory]

Where were you gonna get it? Where are you gonna get it shaken with Eminem at that point? From when that beef started to. Now Eminem has been a superstar. When were you ever gonna see em.

[Julian]

Get your lick at the Super Bowl?

[Rory]

Like, when?

[Mal]

Bro, I don't.

[Rory]

So you gotta just hold that animosity till you get on drink champs and start crying.

[Mal]

That's what. No, but that's why. But that's why you don't. That's why you let that shit go.

[Rory]

Cause, you know. Oh, no, you gotta let.

[Mal]

You know Eminem don't go nowhere. He never leaves his house. Like you gonna see him at a Lions game. Like, he don't go nowhere. So that's not even beef. You can't beef with somebody that don't leave. They compound. You know how crazy that is? You wait and I say, I'm gonna catch this. N. No, you're not. He don't go nowhere but.

[Rory]

Cause leave that man up.

[Mal]

That's not beef. Beef is when this person is moving around and you moving around and it's like, all right, yo, where he at? We pulling up over there. That's beef. 30 years of, yo, I'm waiting to see somebody. You never gonna see that nigga. That's not beef at 50. This is the only culture where you could probably almost have beef with somebody at 58 years old. Ain't no rock and roll ain't doing it. Ain't nobody in NASCAR doing it.

[Julian]

Prince and Mike, they didn't have beef.

[Mal]

Prince was just the king of shade. He would just throw shade, that's all. That wasn't beef, though. They've been in the same room and ain't nothing happened.

[Julian]

Didn't Prince try to kill someone? Tried to kill one of them.

[Mal]

What are you talking about though? What's up with you? Take that.

[Rory]

Nick did not try to kill Michael Jackson.

[Mal]

No, it didn't happen at some point?

[Rory]

No. A big pharma killed both of them. That's it.

[Mal]

Yeah. If you want to get to the beat.

[Rory]

America had beef with them.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like Prince and Michael Jackson didn't have beef.

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Julian]

I thought there was something like.

[Rory]

No, they had. They had musical tension. Like who was better? There was never beef.

[Mal]

Mike. Mike. Yeah.

[Julian]

Prince, he drove his car aggressively in an attempt to run over Mike.

[Mal]

That happened according to Tyson's account. Which Tyson is this? Mike Tyson.

[Julian]

This happened? Yeah.

[Mal]

What do you mean it happened? What are you talking about?

[Rory]

That's not even.

[Julian]

This is. Yes, this is a story from Mike Tyson.

[Mal]

Oh, so. So we taking a story from Mike Tyson, who was probably respectfully drunk and high the entire age.

[Julian]

I remember this story becoming a thing.

[Damaris]

I don't feel like Tyson would lie about that.

[Julian]

One time Prince attempted to run over Michael Jackson.

[Mal]

Boom.

[Julian]

I'm right.

[Damaris]

And I'm not also. I'm also not surprised that. That if that happened. Happened. That doesn't sound far fetched to me.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Mal]

Tried to run over Michael. So Mike. What was Mike. Mike was like walking.

[Rory]

I think he was walking. He was walking to Dwayne Reed.

[Mal]

Jackson don't even walk outside. What the are you talking about?

[Julian]

I think it was the case.

[Rory]

And he walks backwards by himself.

[Mal]

Leaving the studio. Yeah, it was in the same studio. And then Prince tried to run over Michael Jackson.

[Damaris]

I guess they were at a James Brown show in Los Angeles.

[Julian]

There you go. Show in la.

[Mal]

You're talking about the one that's aired with James Brown. Called them both on stage.

[Damaris]

Yes, yes. So after that event is what they're.

[Julian]

Saying, because Mike went up there and fucking moonwalked and did some spins and shit. And. And Chris. Chris in Prince was jamming out against your whole point. Played the guitar, took his shirt off and as legend would have it, footage from that night would prove the superstar's face off or something or whatever. So it was a Face off moment. And then afterwards, they felt away, and Prince tried to chase him down his car.

[Damaris]

I'm not.

[Rory]

I'm calling Big Cap. That's what I'm saying.

[Julian]

This is a huge story. This broken, like, 2018. But I remember this.

[Mal]

I know how. I know how things happen. I've. I've been at events, and then I've heard people give accounts of what happened. I know what embellishing is. I know what adding flair to a story is. Prince did not try to run over no Michael Jackson on his car. Then I did Prince leave the parking lot aggressively.

[Rory]

Like, hold on. I want to know, was Prince driving the car?

[Mal]

That's something. Let's just stop, man. You've never seen Michael Jackson walk more than 10 with platform shoes on. The longest walk you've ever seen Michael Jackson take is walking to the stage to accept an award. Mike is not outside walking anywhere.

[Rory]

Like, I could. I could see Prince's SUV driving very fast past Mike, getting into his suv.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I'd be like, damn, you almost ran him over.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, what are you talking about? Like, Mike was trying to cross the street.

[Rory]

Like, come on.

[Mal]

Like, now, if you say Mike was crossing the street and Prince plowed over some shit. So then it's like, yo, Prince tried to run him over.

[Julian]

Mike confirmed it. Quincy Jones confirmed it.

[Rory]

When did Mike confirm that?

[Julian]

Quincy Jones producer Quincy Jones admitted that the singer Prince had tried to kill Michael Jackson during a concert in 1983. How much proof do you guys need?

[Rory]

Do you want to go through everything else Quincy Jones said in that last interview?

[Julian]

It's a great interview. We can ignore the rest of it. He was on a lot of coke. Probably he was fine. But anyway, he remembers this.

[Mal]

He remembers that.

[Julian]

So I'm saying multiple stories from multiple.

[Mal]

Reputable people from multiple people that were high out their fucking minds during that time.

[Julian]

So I remember mad.

[Rory]

I'm not discrediting that, that this was a story. I apologize in that regard, but I don't believe it is what I'm saying.

[Mal]

No, I think I'm rolling.

[Julian]

Thank you, Damaris.

[Mal]

Well, either way, Mike, I don't think Mike and Prince had beef. Was it like, static? It was static. Was it competitive? You know? Yeah, for sure. Did Prince probably throw shade if people kind of, like, compared him because of the whole, you know, they wanted him to do the Thriller video, Beat it video. And he was like, well, who's playing?

[Rory]

Yeah, who all there?

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, it was like that. Prince was like, well. And he was like, well, I'm not You know, I'm not playing that part. Like, no. So then that's just, you know, that that adds to the tension between Mike and Prince. But I don't think that they had. That's not beef.

[Rory]

So what you guys beef are suggesting is that Benzino should have tried to run over Eminem with his car if he could.

[Mal]

If he had a chance to see him, he probably would. Now that I would believe. But only in hip hop.

[Julian]

See, prison Mike are in hip hop.

[Damaris]

I'm not believing that Eminem and Benzino never been in the same room in the past 20 years. I'm not. I'm not Jack.

[Rory]

I'm. I'm guaranteeing they haven't.

[Mal]

What room would they have been in, Prince?

[Damaris]

I won't say room. Building. I'll say building. I won't say room. I'll say building.

[Mal]

What has. Where has Eminem been? Eminem don't go nowhere. He's not at where he. What award shows is he at now?

[Damaris]

But I'm talking about when that be first started happening. Eminem was everywhere. What do you.

[Rory]

Like, he was getting on arena tours, he was in his green room and hotel.

[Mal]

And then we at the VMAs, and.

[Rory]

Then 15 years later, he was in a parking lot with Griselda and Royce talking about Donald Trump. Between then he was at his house. Never been anywhere else.

[Mal]

Eminem doesn't see the way you just.

[Julian]

Describe that is like how people describe Jesus. Like he was born and then we don't know what happened in the middle. And then at 33, he got nailed to a cross. He was like, what happened in those dirty years? We don't. We're. No one talks about that gap. Eminem was probably outside in that gap.

[Rory]

No, it wasn't just one year.

[Mal]

If Eminem was anywhere, you would know about it.

[Julian]

Why would I. I would. I certainly wouldn't know about it.

[Mal]

I'm just saying, like you would. He's. He would. Eminem was a. Is a big enough starter. If he's just ride anywhere, it's. He's gonna cause Panama.

[Rory]

Like, do you think Eminem was at the same hookah lounge as Stevie J and Benzino in the last 10 years?

[Julian]

Now you're putting em in a hookah lounge.

[Rory]

But to my point, like, where would. They don't.

[Mal]

They don't. Yeah. Like we're. They've not. They don't. I don't know.

[Julian]

The pride parade, not pride.

[Mal]

Is this something you want to tell.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like why are you at the pride parade?

[Rory]

Well, I've Been there.

[Julian]

I was. I was trying to make a joke. The callback to the reason why they're.

[Rory]

Benzino and Elton John's performance.

[Julian]

No, when M. When M did the whole N word rant thing. I was saying at the White Pride parade, but I forgot the white. Wow, That's a real bad. It's too close to the sun. If you forget to say white, it's pretty gay.

[Mal]

Yeah. And you were there, so.

[Julian]

At the White Pride parade.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, you know, picking up women. Same reason you go to an abortion rally. Because you know they're fucking. What?

[Damaris]

Rory.

[Rory]

What?

[Mal]

That's true, though.

[Julian]

And it seems like they take care of it if there's a problem.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Anyways, everyone, check out that interview. I know, I know. Nori's dirty left rack endorphins started going crazy once Benzino started crying.

[Mal]

I know.

[Rory]

Nori was so excited.

[Mal]

I don't want to watch that, though.

[Rory]

It's a good interview. There's more to it than him just having an absolute meltdown.

[Mal]

I'm sure. Like I said, Benzino has been around for years. He's done a lot, accomplished a lot of things in this industry, so.

[Rory]

And now you just got, like, the ammo. You lost. Officially, the beef is over. You lost because you said, fuck him. And you were standing on, yo, he used the N word. He's racist. Fuck M, everyone. Then at the end, you're crying, saying, I would give him a hug. I love white people.

[Julian]

People.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's a dub.

[Mal]

Like, it's over then. The beef is over now.

[Rory]

It has to be.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's over. The beef is over.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's one of those where M is gonna reply because M's been annoying us lately. But this would be one prior to what I've been saying about the girls beefing this. Leave this one alone, Eminem. You won. It's over.

[Mal]

This is. I don't care about this type of. What I do care about is this Drake and Sexy Red video.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because I think it's Cat.

[Julian]

It is.

[Damaris]

What do you mean?

[Mal]

I don't think her water broke right then and there, you know?

[Damaris]

You okay?

[Julian]

You think this really happened?

[Mal]

Well. You think somebody can't stand it?

[Damaris]

I'm amazed that he has to come out here and say, it's Cat. It's a producer.

[Mal]

Have to come out here.

[Rory]

You'd be surprised.

[Mal]

Like, it's.

[Julian]

You'd be surprised.

[Mal]

Yeah. A lot of people think it's real. No.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Those people are idiots.

[Mal]

I'm just saying because we have a Podcast. We have cameras here. I'm just putting it out to the people that. That's Cap. Like, I don't. Great video. Thought it was a genius video, but people really thinking that her water broke right then and there. It's like, no, I don't think so.

[Damaris]

And. And Drake just had a camcorder.

[Rory]

You know what scissor was in? The scissor was just chilling in the kitchen.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And the Christmas tree was still up.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

What do they call that? The woman. The woman that helps the pregnant woman.

[Rory]

Doula.

[Julian]

Do. I was gonna say medulla, but that's.

[Rory]

Part of your brain.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's your brain.

[Rory]

Midwife, Doula. Same.

[Julian]

So sis is the medulla or of.

[Rory]

Ah, she's not. She's a friend.

[Mal]

Just stop.

[Rory]

She's a feature on the song.

[Mal]

Yeah, just stop. Whatever you're doing. You're hurting yourself.

[Rory]

But I thought it was cool. They tried to put it, like, with the old camera footage. They did a good job of putting the video together.

[Mal]

Great job.

[Rory]

Of course, it's. But I didn't think people would go in thinking it was real. Like, it's clearly set up to be a fun, cool video. My real question is, should Sexy Red's baby father get some advice from Safaree?

[Julian]

Elaborate?

[Rory]

Because Safaree had to sit side camera right next to the ad, right in Nikki's director chair and watch her make out with Nas for a video. But that's your girl. She's doing a whole video rollout. You signed up for this. Your girl's a star. Drake rubbing my. Basically my belly. I'm gonna feel away.

[Julian]

I think he put his head on it at one point, too.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was. He was feeling for kicks.

[Damaris]

I feel like that's good luck, though. That's like Jewish good luck.

[Mal]

No, explain.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You can't just throw that out there.

[Rory]

They're good at rubbing things out.

[Julian]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Rory]

Oh, that's old terms. Getting people out of certain areas.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know.

[Rory]

Showing age.

[Mal]

Sorry. I know what you mean.

[Julian]

That's an old term. They're doing that right now.

[Rory]

I know, but I was describing what they were doing right now. Forget it.

[Damaris]

It was a pause. We got what you were saying, but it's still. All right. Take it. All right, cool. I don't feel. I don't feel like he should be upset.

[Mal]

Nah, not for somebody just rubbing your girl. I mean, everybody does that when they see a pregnant girl that they cool with.

[Rory]

Like, I just feel like you took it a little too far because it's Drake No. Any man that would, like, do that.

[Mal]

Rub your girl.

[Rory]

They were, like, cuddling at one point. He was really the rich baby daddy.

[Mal]

Oh.

[Rory]

Like, he sold the video a little too well.

[Mal]

Yeah, I guess I could see what you're saying.

[Rory]

Like, and we know Drake's not sleeping in that bed.

[Julian]

No. That thread count.

[Rory]

Great. Airbnb.

[Damaris]

I was literally just about to say that's what Airbnb rooms look like.

[Rory]

But it added to the. To her whole allure. Like, it couldn't be a super crazy crib. Yeah, that's not her brand. But either way, I think it's a great video. I just might feel away of how Drake got a little handsy with. With a baby girl or baby boy. That's all.

[Damaris]

Baby ski.

[Julian]

You're telling me that's not the real baby she's holding in this video?

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Come on.

[Mal]

Come on.

[Damaris]

Yo, they were.

[Rory]

You know what's funny?

[Julian]

No, it's not bread.

[Rory]

Maybe it is.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Wow. See?

[Rory]

Maybe they really shot this. Her being in labor.

[Julian]

That doing this in the hospital is hilarious. Oh, did he get a McDonald's bag?

[Rory]

Okay, Drake, that was a crazy product placement.

[Julian]

Wow.

[Rory]

Is that the Kalida special?

[Mal]

No, that's the sweetie.

[Rory]

Oh, no, he's Wendy's. Oh, he's sending shots.

[Mal]

That's a sweetie meal. Yeah.

[Julian]

Shots of Cal.

[Rory]

No, shots. Oh, Cuevo. It's riding with Chris.

[Damaris]

Doing that while people are boycotting McDonald's is a bold move, but it's Drake, so he can do what he wants.

[Rory]

I didn't know people were, like, really boycotting.

[Mal]

Nobody's boycotting McDonald's. I don't know if we can get the number.

[Rory]

It's a billion sold every day.

[Mal]

Nobody.

[Rory]

It never dropped to 99. Yeah, nobody.

[Mal]

Like, we need to start just being real, like, with these boycotts. You is still going to Starbucks, you is still going to McDonald's and anywhere else that y'all was going to. Before anything online about boycotting began. Like, cut it the out, man.

[Julian]

Well, according to Fortune food giants are feeling the burn from the Middle East. Boycotts McDonald's, Starbucks, and yum Brands. I don't know what. Who they represent, but.

[Mal]

So, okay, so the fourth quarter, they didn't make 6 billion. They made 4.

[Julian]

Well, yeah, I mean, you're scaling, but. But to success in. In financial security to us is different. What it is to them, if they're used to making 12, but they made seven, that's.

[Rory]

That's because of shipping. That's not because of us. That's all that is.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because this is, you know, they get.

[Mal]

It overseas, but hey, listen, man, if you boycotting. Listen, man. Salute to you.

[Rory]

What did you think was better? The choreography in the hospital with Scissor Drake and the strippers or the NYPD dance team? Who do you think pulled it off Better?

[Mal]

I didn't see the dance team.

[Damaris]

Oh, my PD is the most tone deaf organization.

[Julian]

We got some volume, bro.

[Mal]

This is. Are these officers?

[Rory]

That's Mrs. Officer right there.

[Mal]

Those are not cops.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Mal]

No, it's not.

[Rory]

They have badge numbers. They could arrest you for a warrant right now.

[Mal]

Those are not police. Those are not police.

[Julian]

100 look like a roller derby team.

[Rory]

They're on 3rd Ave. Right now. You haven't seen me? No, I'm laughing just at your facial expression.

[Julian]

This is a mayor Eric Adams, you know, moving $100 million from education, naturally, and finding money in the budget for the most important piece. The dance team.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

They got knee pads.

[Mal]

Yo, listen, man, when they do. When they do the investigation into the.

[Julian]

Money laundering, they got bandanas on.

[Mal]

All they got to do is start right here with this video. To investigate money laundering and ypo.

[Rory]

Having knee pads to slowly put your knees on the floor for one second.

[Mal]

No, having the bandanas. The black bandanas.

[Julian]

Crazy.

[Mal]

Representing the NYPD dancing gang. Who?

[Rory]

I mean, how. Like, how do you argue, defund the police when you have money for this? How do you argue? You know, public libraries are about to be extinct, yo.

[Mal]

And what is this for?

[Rory]

Like, what do they do for morale?

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't know what the promotional.

[Mal]

Tool is, because those are not cops.

[Julian]

Is this like when they're.

[Rory]

You got to make it more relatable.

[Julian]

It's like when a white copy accidentally. Accidentally shoots an unarmed black guy. They pull up and they start hitting choreo as they wheel a body away.

[Rory]

Well, you know, usually like, when they.

[Mal]

Show up to, like, victims, like, funerals of, like, police brutality and like, you've.

[Rory]

Been to the church when. Yeah, they have the people dance, like the. What's that called at black churches?

[Mal]

Praise worship. Praise.

[Rory]

Yeah, the praise dance. Yeah. This is like praise dance for unarmed black youth being shot.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

This is praise dance for stop and frisk.

[Julian]

Yeah. It's not an insult, it's an honor.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But there.

[Rory]

And the knee pads are when you have to stop and frisk and just get lower to where, you know, they keep the money in because they keep the pistol shoes.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but more. Those are actual NYPD officers.

[Rory]

Those are for sure cops.

[Damaris]

They're actual officers.

[Mal]

They look. Well, they need to fuck dance. They need to get in the gym.

[Rory]

Have you not seen most of the NYPD officers lately? They're all out of shape.

[Julian]

Jim is dancing.

[Damaris]

Why don't they need to get in the gym?

[Rory]

You know what's crazy?

[Mal]

Why do they consider down on the floor in a dance choreography? You got to be in shape to be a police officer. You should.

[Damaris]

No, you don't.

[Rory]

No, you don't.

[Mal]

Well, you should be.

[Rory]

I agree with you, but you don't so far.

[Mal]

So if a run on you, you don't just shoot him in his back because your fat ass can't run.

[Rory]

That's my biggest problem with the right when they want to fat shame. Because I agree with them. We should fat shame. But they never fat shame the police. That's who we should be fat shaming the most. You got to be in shape.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Why is they got overtime for this? For sure. I'm positive they got over time.

[Julian]

Why is everyone on the dance troupe a woman? I think this is sexist and it's singling out men.

[Damaris]

You think back the blue is also going to support male dancers because Rafi.

[Rory]

Daluza from Staten island was not doing hip hop dance. That's why.

[Damaris]

That name. That name is sick.

[Rory]

Guarantee you that's the name of an NYPD officer.

[Damaris]

Look at Moss.

[Rory]

This is what's happening.

[Julian]

Mall is disgusting because I if you're on YouTube.

[Rory]

But thank God we're shutting down schools for the immigrants and giving them debit cards.

[Mal]

I cannot wait until they investigate nypd.

[Rory]

Eric Adams is already at this point. Now he's just making a show.

[Julian]

You think you took them to Little Sister afterwards and then they had a table in the Little Sister.

[Rory]

I mean, not judging their looks. They would. They would wait in line.

[Julian]

No, not with these moves. It looks like a high school musical.

[Mal]

This looks like a accident is what it looks like. This is terrible. Yeah.

[Rory]

This wouldn't even get sympathy claps at like a high school basketball.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Where it's like, oh, I mean, they tried.

[Damaris]

If they would have came on there and it. I would have like, I'm like, oh, okay. Like, y'all did that. Like, oh, sorry, I Syracuse language. But like, it up.

[Mal]

Oh, I'm about to play with. Wait, wait, they didn't start.

[Damaris]

It means.

[Mal]

If they came on there and started up like, nah, we don't want to see them.

[Rory]

You know, I think would have probably helped out the dance routine. It might have been the footwear. Had they had the Trump sneakers on. Yeah. And you know, Eric Adams is putting up the money to afford what? What'd they go for, 9k?

[Julian]

Yeah, auction.

[Mal]

Yo, I'm looking for those so bad.

[Julian]

The January sixes.

[Mal]

Oh, I need those. I need those January sixes.

[Damaris]

Man, those are some ugly.

[Julian]

These are some of the ugliest.

[Mal]

I need those, man.

[Rory]

No, you don't.

[Mal]

You don't need them. No, I need those. I'm telling you.

[Rory]

No, we all need health care.

[Mal]

No, those. I need those in my closet.

[Damaris]

You will wear them.

[Rory]

What, would you pair them?

[Mal]

Hell, no, I wouldn't wear those. I just need them.

[Rory]

You put them next to the Martin Flies, right?

[Mal]

I put them probably next to. Next to the mags. The maggots. Those are the maggots next to them.

[Rory]

Next.

[Julian]

I hate that. That actually makes sense.

[Mal]

I gotta put my maggots next to the mags.

[Julian]

Trump was selling these. Well, this auction happened in Philadelphia at a sneaker con, and he was obviously the. The feature of the. The weekend, but he Trump sneakers dot com. He had a website where he was pushing these dumb shoes, and obviously they sold out. But I guess as he took the stage, there was a mix of booze and obviously supporters. So this was his return to public facing.

[Rory]

And he came out to what? Carnival by Kanye Tai. Right? I believe.

[Mal]

No, he did.

[Julian]

No, he did not.

[Rory]

I swear to God. He came out to a Kanye West.

[Mal]

Somebody edited that, man. No, I'm not believing. Y'all gonna have to stop this.

[Rory]

No, he walked up on the stage with Kanye west song. Yes, he did.

[Mal]

No, he did.

[Rory]

It was not edited.

[Mal]

No, he did not.

[Damaris]

If he was asking, did they sound.

[Rory]

Designed so it sounded like it was really in the.

[Mal]

I believe that before. I believe that. That Trump walks out real. I know it's not real. Talking about.

[Rory]

Wait, he's. Kanye's a supporter of Trump, has met him a million times. Why would that be weird?

[Julian]

Here's the edited version.

[Mal]

Why would Trump walking out to a new Kanye.

[Rory]

Why would that be weird?

[Mal]

That would be very weird.

[Julian]

So Kanye actually posted it, but this was not what they were playing.

[Mal]

I knew that's not what they were playing. You ain't got to say that like, are you kidding me?

[Rory]

You don't think Trump playing Kanye west after he's been taken off Apple would be something Trump would do at a rally? No, I don't think that's far. He's selling gold sneakers, and you wouldn't play Kanye West.

[Mal]

No, he wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. I think what you're saying is way further than he would go he had.

[Rory]

Him in the Oval Office.

[Mal]

Yeah, but he's not playing standing on.

[Rory]

Top of his desk.

[Mal]

He's not playing his new record. Coming out to a rally for his sneakers, though.

[Julian]

Doesn't Louboutin own the patent on the red bottoms? Can he get sued for that?

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Having red at the bottom of a sneaker.

[Julian]

Pretty sure Louboutin owns that.

[Damaris]

Jordan has sneakers.

[Rory]

You go to Foot Locker right now and find a sneaker that has red at the bottom of it.

[Julian]

No, you can't.

[Mal]

Julian. What the are you talking about today? You just spewing out random in your brain.

[Julian]

That's. I. All right. They have a patent on it. It might be. Look, it might only apply to certain.

[Rory]

Brands, like on a heel maybe, but.

[Julian]

I know that they own some sort of patent to it.

[Rory]

I sent you another version, more of like the sporty workout version. You have those as well?

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. The. Were those real or. I thought. Or was this the only shoe that he was selling?

[Rory]

I don't know these.

[Julian]

Because these don't.

[Rory]

These were kind of hard. These remind me of those. Those step under armour ones that I played ball in that were actually pretty effective.

[Julian]

The gold T on the side is sick.

[Damaris]

Yeah, those are kind of fire. I don't know.

[Mal]

Those are fake, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they are.

[Rory]

He should produce them because those are good gym sneakers. And you know MAGA loves the gym.

[Mal]

Yeah. Come on, man. You never seen the MAGA supporter. Not in the gym. Kidding me.

[Rory]

Doing reps for tea.

[Mal]

I'm mad I couldn't get those, though.

[Rory]

Mall. If you would have spent 9K on some Trump sneakers.

[Mal]

No, that's just how much they went for at the auction. It wasn't going for 9k on the site.

[Julian]

I think they were retailing for 400, 399.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I could see as an investment, even paying 9k for him. You're probably going to get your money back and a profit. Trump might. He might buy him back.

[Mal]

I'm going to get those, man. I don't know how, but I'm going to get the Magus. Definitely getting the Magus. Terrible, terrible fucking shoe. But you just got to have it. That's Trump, man. You got to have a president sneak. Are you kidding?

[Rory]

Do you have Michael Johnson's spikes from 96? They're the same.

[Mal]

Michael Johnson wasn't a fucking president.

[Damaris]

Are there any other things that you have in your. That you have in your collection that you bought just to like have for the collection but you don't wear?

[Mal]

Not many. I wear my sneakers. I don't have many sneakers that I haven't worn. If I didn't wear sneakers that I have, it's just because I just haven't worn them yet. But it's not because I'm like, yo, I'm never wearing these. If I buy sneakers, I'm. I'm wearing them.

[Rory]

Can you think of an occasion you would wear the T45s?

[Mal]

Nah, I would never wear all gold shoe like that.

[Julian]

Maybe the. His inauguration.

[Rory]

No, you wouldn't want to scuff them. Oh, yeah, because when, when you guys storm again.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They could get up, you step on them.

[Mal]

I would just wear them like, and watch like his inauguration speech in the house or something like that. Put them on.

[Julian]

Take the photo. Just for the IG store.

[Mal]

Yeah. And as soon as the speech is over, take them off, put them back in the box. Yeah.

[Rory]

What fitted would you match with those?

[Mal]

That's a nasty. That's a nasty gold sneaker, man. They look like wrestling boots.

[Julian]

They do. They look like Ric Flair's. Yeah.

[Mal]

What, what made Donald Trump want to do this, though?

[Rory]

Why not?

[Julian]

Promotion.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, I'm not mad at that. He did it, but it's like, it's.

[Rory]

Better than Biden posting that fucking photo after the super bowl. Trying to be relatable.

[Mal]

Anything Trump does is better than Biden. But this sneaker, though, like, what, what the.

[Rory]

What?

[Mal]

Who on this team was like, yo, sneaker con, we need a, we need your own shoe. Because obviously Trump doesn't, he doesn't need the money. Like, but it's like, why would he, why would he create the shooter?

[Rory]

Attention. We're talking about it now. Is that sneaker con? It's for a younger demo.

[Julian]

Like, and who did he.

[Rory]

Sneaker culture. It's a, it's a good move. Like, even if I don't like the guy, this is a good move.

[Mal]

I've seen this patent this shoe. This is like a creative wreck sneaker or one of those type of designer sneakers that are kind of like that nobody wears anymore. And they just put the T on the side.

[Rory]

Yeah, I could see chanel making those 10 years.

[Mal]

But that's not a Jordan 1 silhouette, though. That's definitely not. No, I'm just saying that's not. Because it's supposed to mimic that. But it's not, it's not that. That's like a creative wreck or one of those weird off brand sneakers.

[Rory]

While we're in politics and media, has anyone been keeping up with Jon Stewart being back on the Daily Show?

[Julian]

I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen amazing reviews and I'm excited.

[Rory]

He's got some stuff under his belt so far. I like the approach that they're taking. You know, not to say that Jon Stewart was completely left when he was on the Daily show, but it leaned left. Let's be honest with each other. He's on both sides. I think it's great so far. I think he's been smoking everything he should be doing. He's killing Trump, he's killing Biden. It's funny, it's good writing, it's good delivery. So far, so good.

[Mal]

I haven't caught an episode yet. I watched episode with Bill Maher. He had a Van Jones on last week. I did see that episode, only because I was in the room. And it's only two. It was only two HBO channels. That was it.

[Rory]

Van Jones was on Bill Marshall.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, God.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was just a pretentious.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who could out pretentiously?

[Julian]

I smoke weed. It's all Bill. It's all Bill says.

[Mal]

I mean, it was cool, though.

[Rory]

It's good to see Muslims.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Religion is gay. That's all. It's all Bill.

[Rory]

Can we get. New rule. Can we get serious?

[Julian]

Yeah, New rule. If you don't smoke weed, you're gay. That's all he says.

[Mal]

How much money did Van Jones get from.

[Rory]

From. From Trump?

[Mal]

From Bezos.

[Rory]

Oh, from Bezos. Oh. The show never came out. Like 30 million or some shit.

[Mal]

He gave him a crazy right. And then Van just kind of like disappeared after that.

[Rory]

I remember you and I were at Made in America and we were doing all those interviews. I think was when it dropped. And we were like, all right, it's been a couple months. Like, when is he gonna put the show out that he got all this.

[Julian]

Money for Uncommon Ground was the name of the show.

[Mal]

No, but how much money did. Did he get? How much money did Bezos give him? It was like just a gift. Like he just gave it to him.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was a 513 seed charity right off.

[Julian]

That's sick.

[Rory]

I was exaggerating with 30 million, but it was something insane.

[Mal]

I. I want to say it was more than that.

[Rory]

And Jones, I want to say it.

[Mal]

Was like a hundred million.

[Julian]

I think it. I wanna. I wanna lean with what Ma said.

[Mal]

I'm saying 100 million.

[Rory]

Receiving a hundred million from Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

That's not crazy.

[Rory]

We can confirm he got 100 million. We ain't seen him since. He got 100 million to go on Bill Maher, five years later.

[Mal]

Yeah, gave him 100 million. He's him and the other guy, Jose Andreas.

[Julian]

The chef. World famous chef.

[Rory]

How do you get on those lists.

[Mal]

To just get 100 million?

[Damaris]

That's the PR list you want to be on?

[Rory]

No, just like, I have to funnel money somehow and let me put it into somebody that's forward facing. Like, how do you get. How do you get to that world? You have to be in the political space, obviously.

[Julian]

But, yeah, I know Jose in particular, at least from what I know of him, is very close with the. He's in the Clinton camp. Very.

[Mal]

Oh, shit, here we go. So all you got to do is start. Start digging just a little bit. Just a little dig. You'll find it.

[Rory]

And I mean, if the Pentagon will ever pass an audit, we can find out if they were really giving Jon Stewart all that money. They said they were. That's a big conspiracy.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you don't want to dig. See you now. You.

[Rory]

No, I would like the Pentagon to pass one audit in their existence.

[Mal]

Distance.

[Rory]

Just one. Quickly. I like that new Glorilla song. I know we've been on some of her music lately. When she was doing that, AI generated data spit out of whatever a record should be right now. When she had the Nas Uchiwali shit. That. Yeah, Glow record is really good.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Rory.

[Rory]

I mean, it's another. It's another obvious flip, but I like the way she did it. And don't say, yeah, Rory, because that's not. That's not how the lyrics go.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Mom, Every next time y'all start cooking in an episode, I'm gonna just scream that out.

[Mal]

Please don't.

[Rory]

But wanted to lead with love on that because we were talking off mic. I completely disagree with her post with Dame Lillard.

[Mal]

She posted a picture with Dame and she said the caption was, who nigga this is? Cause I want him.

[Julian]

Which is funny.

[Rory]

It's super funny. I mean, and on brand to her and funny. Like, I get it, I get it.

[Mal]

It's funny. But, you know, we could see how Dame's wife may have took some, you know, some kind of, like, disrespect to that, though, because she did delete the. Ended up deleting the picture.

[Julian]

Oh, did you see the second tweet? She said, no, whoever she is, can't whoop me, so I really don't give a.

[Damaris]

Okay, she dragged it. She dragged.

[Rory]

So did Dame's wife say something? Is that.

[Damaris]

Well, we'll never know.

[Mal]

People probably was like, yo, he's married. He's married and whatever.

[Rory]

And to me, knowing your platform, and even though she does do a lot of the. The silly social media stuff, which I think is good, we know Dame is Dame and you are Glow. Two big platforms. Dame is one of the biggest basketball players ever. You can't just say that and not double check to see if he's married. It's disrespectful. Because also, didn't Glorilla put up some tweet about dudes cheating and she was gonna snitch if dudes were cheating? Like, she was like, I'm leak your DMs.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Find that. Yeah.

[Mal]

Well, that's probably why nobody's DMs.

[Rory]

Of course, I know women are hypocrites, but I'm here to point it out. You can't put up those tweets of any dude that's in my DMs. I'm a. I'm gonna tell your girl, but then not double check to see that this guy who's been publicly married for quite some time to put that up. Yeah, well, she said now you're living, you know, in women reality, which is, you know, you can do whatever the you want, but, oh, no one else can't do anything else.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Julian]

He's been married since 2021, by the way.

[Rory]

What does that change? Yes, he tried to defend it.

[Damaris]

I'm not deciding. I'm. I'm not saying anything. I just feel like if an entertainer. But that's just me. If an entertainer says something like that about my husband, either I'm gonna respond like mine, sis, what's up? Like, on some funny. Or. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna make you take that down. I feel like making you take that down or saying anything about it makes you come off more insecure. And I don't know that she did that. So I'm not putting that on his wife because we don't know what happened.

[Rory]

But Glow knew she was wrong and took it down.

[Damaris]

But is that really. Is that wrong? I just feel like as an entertainer, is that really wrong? I don't know.

[Mal]

I think that it's. I get what you're saying. It could. Because it could be just a fun caption, like just Glow talking shit.

[Damaris]

It's just Glow being Glow. Yeah.

[Mal]

But at the same time, if, you know, if Dame hit you, like, yo, wifey kind of like, took some exception to that, can you.

[Damaris]

Oh, well, then, yeah, of course she should definitely take it down. But I'm saying that that shouldn't be a conversation, because what if I'm Dame.

[Rory]

And just took a picture at All Star Weekend like I did with a people and not knowing you're about to caption this, and now my household is in disarray when I was minding my business.

[Damaris]

Why is your household in disarray over that?

[Mal]

Because a female rapper, a female artist that you took a picture with captioned it. Who? Nigga, this is because I want him. Yeah, I like you, and I want you.

[Julian]

America's point. He probably spent that whole week.

[Mal]

That's what she said. Glorilla said, I like you and I want you.

[Julian]

He probably spent that whole weekend taking photos of artists you did. But your next conversation point isn't, okay, so what are you going to caption this? Like, he took the photo with probably 100 people?

[Rory]

No, I'm not saying he should have her. What the caption is? It's just like, what the fuck? We just took a photo, and now this is what you decide to caption it with. You would feel away, too.

[Damaris]

Hip hop going soft, man.

[Julian]

It's going soft.

[Damaris]

It's going soft.

[Mal]

Like, it's not. It's not hip hop going soft. It's not hip hop going. It's just Dame probably. You know, it just. The comments just the. Went just another way that glow probably didn't intend for it to go. Like, all right, y'all really think that I. I'm trying to take him?

[Damaris]

Like, unless I feel like my husband a cheater or I'm worried about not you.

[Mal]

It don't have to be the wife.

[Rory]

Ye.

[Mal]

Not. It doesn't have to be the wife feeling away. It's just.

[Damaris]

Well, y'all said the household was in disarray, so that's what I'm.

[Mal]

Who said that?

[Damaris]

No, what I'm saying is if in this hypothetical scenario, if the house.

[Mal]

Oh, if it caused turmoil in your house. Yeah. Then it's like, I'm saying what I'm saying because you don't want to. Cause that.

[Damaris]

You should never be in disarray. Unless you have doubts about your husband. Your household should never be in disarray.

[Mal]

Nah. But you know how this new shit is. You know how social media can influence real life and shit in the home. Like, you know that first of all.

[Rory]

I can trust my partner through and through, but still feel like somebody disrespected me based off an action they did that didn't have to do with my partner, but involved my partner. Like, if some dude puts their arm around my girl and Is like, yo, I'm a hurt. I don't think that my girl is gonna him. But he said that?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Now you just. Now you're disrespecting me. You can't see that even if you trust your partner, you can still feel disrespected by how the other person was moving.

[Damaris]

Yes, but not when it's an entertainer who is not really trying to fuck Dame Lillard.

[Rory]

How do you know that?

[Mal]

You don't know what Glow trying to do.

[Rory]

I believe Glows rhymes.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think she live her rap.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't think she. I think she telling the truth. She's signing Yo Gotti. I believe her.

[Mal]

I think she. I think she live her raps. I think she definitely live her rap.

[Damaris]

I can't blame anybody for being upset. I'm just saying I would. I would laugh at that. Like, I would giggle. Like, look at Glow being stupid. Show my man. And that would be it. Like, it wouldn't.

[Mal]

Nah. But seek. All right, so now if you was an entertainer and Dame Lillard took a picture with you, well, I want to.

[Julian]

Know who he was gonna say.

[Mal]

Like, just to say. Or any basketball player or.

[Damaris]

Dame's cute. He can say Dame.

[Mal]

Okay, so Dame Lillard, right? Respectfully, to wifey, he say, yo, listen, who girl this is. Cause I wanna. You don't think that if you go home and your man sees that. First of all, he just watched the game. He just watched this n win.

[Damaris]

Entertainer.

[Mal]

Are you listening? I said if you are an entertainer.

[Julian]

You'Re in the middle.

[Mal]

If you are an entertainer.

[Damaris]

Okay, if I am an entertainer, then my man should not be coming to me about what another entertainer said in a picture.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

Like, come on. No, bro.

[Damaris]

If we're entertaining everything. Because she posted it. The caption, all of that is for entertainment. She didn't send it to a group chat.

[Mal]

Yeah, but sometimes. Nah, but we've seen. Nah, we've seen. But we've seen where people have put tweets out like, yo, who's this? I want them. And then two weeks later, guess who they with? Well, shit.

[Rory]

Matter of fact, matter of fact, somebody from her label made a whole song called down in the DMs and is now with the girl he was talking about 10 years ago, though.

[Julian]

Smart.

[Damaris]

If you could take them, take them.

[Rory]

Have them shout out to Gotti work.

[Mal]

I mean, I'm with you on that. If you could take him, you can have them. But you're not gonna act like. You're not gonna act like. You would just be like, going to house. And your man's like, yo, what's up with Dame? Why he posting you and him in that picture? And he captioned that in early last year. And you gonna tell him, like, oh, well, listen, if you don't like it, you can leave. Like, you're not gonna tell your man.

[Damaris]

I feel like it's a little. Y'all gonna kill me, but I feel like it would be a little. It's a little different with.

[Mal]

See, okay, there we go.

[Damaris]

It's a little. It is a little.

[Mal]

It's always a little different until it's time to pay the bills around here, though. But also then it ain't a little different. Respectfully as then that's just the man's job, right?

[Damaris]

You right.

[Mal]

I'm great. I'm just saying. But it's always a little different when it's come to, like, this clear as day.

[Damaris]

I just feel like no really wanted. I feel like with women, period. And usually, like, that's just the way they are because women are a little bit more sneaky. If GLOW really wanted that, she would have never posted it. You not you not posting.

[Rory]

Now you told myself we talking about respect level now.

[Mal]

Yeah, now you talking about something else.

[Rory]

It's Dame Lillard. We're not talking about some random guy from the bench that she actually thought was cute and spotted out. It's Dame Lillard. You have to respect his celebrity and his platform.

[Mal]

She just took a picture with the All Star Game MVP holding the trophy.

[Rory]

He's one of the greatest of this era. Like, period.

[Julian]

You hit two 50 footers in this 10 minutes ago.

[Mal]

Are you kidding me? Like, she knew what she was doing with this. This fiction and that post.

[Damaris]

Okay, I can understand why somebody would decipher it as disrespectful.

[Rory]

This is the one time that I fully believe women when they say that knew what she was doing. And that's what Dame's wife, I'm sure, said.

[Mal]

She knew why.

[Rory]

She knew what she was doing.

[Mal]

She knew exactly why she took the picture. She knew exactly who he was.

[Julian]

I think Game's facial expression. This says a lot Dame raps.

[Mal]

So she probably.

[Julian]

I'm saying, like, you knew.

[Rory]

I think Dame just took a photo on the right and then moved to the left and was like, he knew how to.

[Damaris]

Maybe they have a song coming out.

[Julian]

Well, she. I was going to say earlier, he freestyled over tomorrow too, at the beginning of last year, and it was one of his, like, most successful freestyles. So he's tapped in back.

[Rory]

So you don't think callback you don't.

[Julian]

Think that tomorrow three coming up you.

[Rory]

Don'T think that glow knew that after next yeah the day and now all of a sudden it's like is he married? Come on you're proven our point more they do have some type of history.

[Damaris]

Like I said I can understand why somebody would decipher as being disrespectful and I don't blame anybody for wanted out I'm just saying me personally I would have thought it was cute and I would I wouldn't have care but that's if I'm securing in my marriage I wouldn't have given a do you think Dane the follow up tweet is crazy though I don't give a who she is because she can't whoop me because now that is where I that's why that's disrespectful as but what if you.

[Mal]

Can'T beat glorilittle though you you don't.

[Damaris]

Have to say that if you if globally think somebody can't beat her she.

[Mal]

Have to say she want that either.

[Rory]

Points were made sure so she already.

[Mal]

Saying me and wife she already saying she shouldn't be saying so it go all away with it now that's an.

[Damaris]

Ongoing joke like on socials about Method Man's wife wife they'd be like yo every time like he comes up on the screen or he has he's at an award show people always like yo can his wife like fight all the time they don't as disrespectful not mess.

[Rory]

Wife definitely had Wendy Williams shook at one point so if you like you know the history. Yeah and I'm not going to get into it because it's you know a little foul but yeah Wendy was shaking in in her boots she was Statue of Liberty for a while that you.

[Damaris]

Know what that was up okay.

[Rory]

She also exposed that Method Man's wife had cancer so Wendy Williams can get whatever smoke she wants. Yes. She was Statue of liberty the whole time around Method Man's wife she wasn't going anywhere near a fairy anyways.

[Julian]

Get your off damn Roy.

[Rory]

I was joking y'all. Like not as though like now all of a sudden Wendy Williams passing out is off limits when she's exposed everyone's secrets that isn't even in the industry like like Method Man's wife is minding her business didn't want the world to know she had cancer and here comes Wendy Williams like she has cancer like that's foul shit but Anyways, do you think dame brought up KD's last verse that he put out over All Star Weekend? Because Dame can rap. Rap Do.

[Mal]

I think Dame brought it up to who?

[Rory]

To kd. Like, at practice.

[Mal]

Oh, I'm sure they talked about practice. About the Katie with Stalli. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Which is good. Yeah, I was actually wasn't mad at Katie's verse, but. But Dame raps.

[Mal]

They was calling Katie K.D. electronica.

[Rory]

Yeah, he definitely had that feeling.

[Mal]

He took Jay Elect flowing.

[Julian]

Kevin electronica.

[Mal]

He did.

[Rory]

But it wasn't too bad.

[Mal]

No, it wasn't bad. It was good.

[Rory]

I actually was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't as awful as I thought it was going to be.

[Damaris]

So it was awful. Just not as awful as you thought it was going to be.

[Mal]

Well, whenever you hear, like, real rappers, like, real NBA players, like, KD is like, one of the best players ever. So whenever somebody, like, if you like the 12th nigga on the bench and they be like, yo, so you know, son rap, you probably like, all right. Like. Cause you ain't really playing much, so it's like you gotta have another hobby. KD is like. Yeah, KD is like one of the greatest players to ever pick up a basketball.

[Rory]

You can have a setup in the hotel at weight games you're not playing at.

[Mal]

Yeah. KD's one of the best basketball players ever. Now, if he's rapping, you like. All right, but how it sound, though? Cause, like, this nigga ain't got too much time to be writing rhymes. Like, this nigga, really.

[Damaris]

You can't be that good at that many things.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, come on. Like, we've heard the best basketball. Like, Shaq is probably the best rapper, basketball player ever.

[Rory]

I think I would say Dame.

[Julian]

Dame is. Dame can rap.

[Mal]

I mean, no.

[Rory]

Well, Dame has.

[Julian]

You're talking about.

[Mal]

Shaq has had more success. He's the most successful.

[Rory]

Sure. Okay.

[Mal]

Basketball player, rapper. He had multiple champions.

[Damaris]

Literally just about to say Fresh Prince.

[Julian]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

Like, Shaq is the guy. Shaq won championships. He has like. Like platinum plaques. Like, yeah, he's the guy.

[Rory]

Now, skill level basketball with tallums, right?

[Mal]

Yeah, skill level. Dame is probably better than Shaq, but I didn't expect Katie to sound. He really sounded. He got off on this, though. He didn't sound bad at all.

[Rory]

The lyrics are great. And I'm not mad at the flow at all. I think it's because his voice is so recognizable that that's what fucked me up.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If I, like. If someone Else that I hadn't known was one of the greatest basketball players of all time, I would have given it more props. Sometimes if you recognize someone's voice too much, it takes away from their. Their raps and their delivery. I know your voice is something else. And now you just started rapping. And I know he's been rapping since high school.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I wasn't, like, keeping up with his mixtapes when he was in D.C. and 16 Dame's the only one that I think is surpassed where I could just throw on a Dame album and not connect the two. Dame is just a good rapper that makes good music.

[Mal]

I just can't even as good as Dame is. I just can't. Like, it's like, n you nigga, you nice though. Like, you play ball. N, like, put this mic down. What are you doing? It's still gonna always be that, like, this could always be a passion. And Dame has made some dope records, put out dope projects. But I really wasn't expecting KD to sound this cool.

[Damaris]

That's not his name.

[Mal]

Dame dollar.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's his rap name.

[Mal]

Yeah. Why you hating on dollar? Don't do that. Don't do that. You hating on dan.

[Julian]

That's his MF doom, you know, to don$life lately edition. That was his release last year, which isn't bad.

[Mal]

Got a little Wayne Dane put out some good projects.

[Julian]

Wayne's on it.

[Rory]

I'd like to hear more from Katie.

[Julian]

Dollar Sign.

[Mal]

Yeah, I want to hear more from Katie now. Like, now. I want to hear KD put together, like, some songs, like, by himself.

[Damaris]

Send him some beats.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

I. I feel like Katie's. Because I know he's such a, like, real hip hop Griselda type fan. He's gonna want with no drums, fallen pianos, for sure. Katie is gonna want no drums throughout the entire thing.

[Mal]

No drums. Why do y'all say that? They. That's the Griselda sound. No drums.

[Rory]

It was for a long time. Don't deny it.

[Mal]

No drums.

[Rory]

They have drums now.

[Julian]

But that. You can't say that piano loop.

[Rory]

You can't just have a piano loop and a great sample and one kick and say that they have drums. It was great music.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They just had to evolve back into drums.

[Mal]

Yo, I like that new Flo Milli record. Is it. I don't know if it's new or not, but I heard a Flow Millie song race by.

[Damaris]

His hand on my coochie he touching Emilio.

[Mal]

Yeah. That song is. I. I like that record right there.

[Rory]

Where was you Getting off to that.

[Mal]

I saw it on somebody's. Somebody's Instagram if I didn't know who. Whose song it was. And then I looked at the video and I was like, oh, no, the song's I.

[Rory]

That okay.

[Mal]

I mean, Lose me. Yeah. Flo Millie. That is. I like that record.

[Rory]

Yeah, I like Flaming a lot. Did you see the Roots Picnic lineup? I did, and I didn't really want to talk about festival because I always come in here and on festivals now I have to give positive vibes where positive vibes are due. This is a great lineup.

[Julian]

They're really.

[Rory]

This is an incredible lineup.

[Damaris]

I said that Devora like, oh, lovers.

[Rory]

And Friends, of course, is amazing. Other than that, it's been fucking awful for the past year and a half. Roots continues to deliver every single year. The lineups are insane. Jill Scott, Lil Wayne in the Roots with PJ Morton. That's gonna be crazy. Nas Gunna, Victoria Monet. Black Thought with Method man and Redman. For those that don't know, Black Thought they're gonna create a mixtape live where he's just gonna rap on all the Method man and Redman shit. Just put new verses on it. Fantasia and money long together for the the legacy. Scarface. Like, this is just Scarface.

[Mal]

Amy Reed Backyard.

[Rory]

I can't see the camera.

[Mal]

Well, that's. That's the ball alert back. The Go Go Backyard Band. So you know what that Amy Reed record is going to do with that band?

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a Go Go, right?

[Mal]

Exactly. That shit's gonna be crazy Sexy Red Babyface, Gilly Wallow.

[Julian]

You can see three stacks play the.

[Rory]

Flute, which is crazy.

[Mal]

Thousand New Blue Sun Live.

[Rory]

Robert Glassford.

[Damaris]

Robert. Yeah, but that's what made me Senator Rory like it.

[Julian]

This is Kyle.

[Rory]

This is great.

[Damaris]

Cameron is great.

[Rory]

Juan Epstein. Oh, geez. Of podcasting. That'll be a great stage. Yeah. They continue to deliver every single year. So I'll be there like I am every year.

[Julian]

We had a good time last year.

[Rory]

Yeah, we had a really good time.

[Julian]

That was fun.

[Rory]

I mean, we were pretty arrogant and how we just pulled up straight to a stage when we weren't performing. But you know, we'll figure it out.

[Julian]

This year we're just drove. That was. We pulled up to the Gator like, yeah, like, where's your passive park? Where he's like, no, no, I'm good. He got on like his tsa. He was like, I'm good.

[Mal]

Oh, he does that. He does that everywhere.

[Julian]

Veered around the barricade and Then just pulled up and.

[Rory]

Yeah, because my Mazda can outrun your little golf cart. You can't take those hills in Philly the way my. My Mazda can.

[Mal]

Yo, Rory, when he get on his. At festivals where you don't let him through a gate, you got to see Rory. When they don't let him through a gate, he get on that phone.

[Julian]

I'm. I'm just. I'm like that, too, though. Yeah.

[Mal]

Cause y'all both Karens. That's why. So Rory be like Katie. When Rory get like this. Both hands on the phone with the cross shoulder. I don't know who he texted, but somebody going to show up with a.

[Rory]

Laminate because it doesn't happen.

[Mal]

That's why. I don't know who he text.

[Rory]

My dad. The judge is going to show up.

[Mal]

Somebody.

[Rory]

You know, I own this.

[Mal]

Somebody's on the way with a laminate immediately.

[Julian]

Lanyard and a wristband.

[Rory]

But that didn't happen to us at all. At Roots. We were fine for the most part.

[Julian]

Well, they questioned you about where you decided to park, because that wasn't a parking spot.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then we pulled into the real life, and then.

[Julian]

Well, they said they're like, this is for a certain level of. And you were like, I'm here because I am that person. And they were like, no, you're not. And then. Yeah, we were.

[Rory]

And then who came?

[Mal]

And I'm here because I am that person. No, you're not. Get you and your car the out of here. You're not that person. Get the out.

[Rory]

But that lasted all five minutes. And then somebody came and was like, yo, you can park in this lot.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which was even closer to the stage.

[Julian]

But we did pull up with no. No nothing. And just. It worked.

[Mal]

Yo, that is hilarious, man. Yeah, I love seeing, like, that with Rory, though, because I really don't give a. Like, I'm just like, man, wherever the. We need to stand. Cool. I just want to hear the show. Rory, though, you can't tell him he can't stand somewhere. He's getting on the phone. Two hands and a land, a lanyard, a credential. Something Is on the Way.

[Julian]

Ended up. We did Something Is on the Way. We did end up on stage for Usher's performance, which was insane. And they were really on, like, keeping that space limited with very few people, and somehow we both, like, kind of hovered and kicked it.

[Rory]

Am I not allowed to enjoy the fruits of my labor at a festival.

[Mal]

That you weren't invited to?

[Rory]

No, I wasn't. First of all, we had legit. I didn't just pull a car up and told a cop. Yo, was good. And I legitimately had passes for us.

[Julian]

We didn't have them on us.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, we had to go. No, no, no. The finesse. The finesse came because I didn't want to park. We didn't have parking passes. The fin. We could have parked, like, where everyone parked and then walked super far to go get our legit passes. I was trying to park in the backstage parking lot so we could just pull out at the end of the night.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, that's just.

[Rory]

That's what my pops taught me about finessing. Yeah, we had Real passive.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I thought you didn't have.

[Rory]

No, I didn't just show up to the Roots Picnic. Like, yo, it's me.

[Mal]

I see that. So that's what I'm saying. That's where this is.

[Damaris]

Ho.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, that's where I'm thinking. You. I'm sorry.

[Rory]

I'm arrogant. I'm not that fucking.

[Mal]

Okay, so then. No, then that makes. Okay, that makes all the difference. Then. Then, no, you. You pulled the move that you were supposed to.

[Julian]

Yo, it's me.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Then you. You all good.

[Rory]

That was just my dad teaching me. We buy bleacher tickets, but we're gonna be in the front row.

[Mal]

Absolutely. Oh, we're allowed in the third base. We'll be on a third baseline. Don't you worry about it. We just in the building. We're gonna get down there.

[Rory]

Yeah. And you know, Roots picnic, that's a far walk.

[Mal]

Yeah. And when you park, that's a hell of a walk.

[Rory]

The regular.

[Mal]

It does look like a great lineup, though. I'm not sure if I'll go, but it does look like a really good lineup. I might want to see come down this year. I might want to see 150,000 live, though. Just because it's 3,000.

[Rory]

Are they doing it?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Are they doing it at the actual festival? Because last year, Chappelle was, like, in the arena at night or some shit.

[Mal]

Nah, he'll probably be there. He'll probably be at the. At the park.

[Julian]

And it's still at Fairmont park, though. Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't.

[Julian]

It doesn't specify if Andre will be on those grounds or at a different venue.

[Rory]

I mean, you. You'd imagine he'd be main stage, but that's a very big stage. Like, I just want to watch people watch Andre 3000 play a flute on.

[Julian]

A festival size after Nas.

[Rory]

Like, just. Like, just watching a Flute.

[Julian]

Pretend like they care.

[Rory]

And you know, the Roots crowd, they think they're pretentious and understand every type of music. They're going to sit there like, this is the greatest.

[Julian]

They got to let Quest go up there and, like, drop a drum rhythm or something. Just do something in the back.

[Mal]

You got Andre 3000 fucked up. If you're not supposed to be on this stage, you ain't going to be on this stage.

[Rory]

I. I'll be honest with you. I'm not as much as I am a hipster. Pretentious. I think it's cool he's on the lineup. I don't Want to see Andre 3000 play a flute on a festival stage.

[Julian]

I'll catch him backstage.

[Damaris]

You want to run into him in Soho, which you've been begging for for the past 10 years, but you don't want to play a flute.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Rory]

I would watch him play a flute at, like, the Blue Note or even one of the smaller stages. Roots. Like, I'd sit on a blanket and watch that at a. You've been to Roots picnic.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know how big that stage is?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

With a bunch of people just standing there staring at someone play the flute. No, I'm cool.

[Mal]

I mean, it's music. It's gonna be a band.

[Damaris]

I think there's gonna be a band.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, there's some, but. Have you listened to the album? It's not much. Yeah, you'll have some strings and some keys. It doesn't really get in its bag.

[Mal]

I want to see it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I want to.

[Rory]

How long was that one song?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

You wanna. You want a 45 minute?

[Mal]

I don't. I'm not saying I don't know. Yeah, why not? 45 minutes of Andre just playing whatever music he just put out. Yeah, I watch that.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna go get it.

[Mal]

Why not?

[Rory]

Roles have reversed it. I thought I would be the one trying to.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Defend that. I don't really care to see that.

[Mal]

No, I definitely want to see Andre 2000 perform.

[Damaris]

I think it's going to be special. I think he's not. I think he'll add some different elements into it. He is on a. Yeah, I think so.

[Mal]

I think so. I think it'll be worth it.

[Damaris]

Money Long might have a classic on her hands, by the way, with that damn song. I haven't had a song stuck in my head like that for a long time.

[Mal]

What is that? Nobody.

[Damaris]

Nobody.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. It's a good record. It's a really good song.

[Damaris]

Stuck. Shout out to B. Cox. And Jermaine Dupree Stuck in my.

[Rory]

Yeah, that is a really good song. I don't know about classic yet, but.

[Damaris]

I think it's on this way. Oh, speaking of which, I have a contender for songs that might get played in the club. That came out after 2020.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

In 20 years, that might get played in the club. I'm not saying it's a classic, but I think it will still get played Back in Blood by Pooh Shiesty.

[Julian]

Well, that's a good club record.

[Rory]

That was after 2020.

[Damaris]

I'm pretty sure it might have been 2020 on the dot.

[Rory]

Feel like he was 21.

[Damaris]

21.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

I was gonna say I was at Atlantic at this time. I remember that was big release.

[Damaris]

I can hear that still being played in the club and it's still going on.

[Mal]

So you can see that.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at that take.

[Mal]

You can still see that being played, but not first person shooters.

[Damaris]

Yes. Because that's still being played in the club and they don't play first person shooters.

[Julian]

Yeah, I was gonna say Maul. You were getting killed for that take.

[Damaris]

Don't play that in the club.

[Rory]

They played at highlight room. Julian.

[Damaris]

No, it was R B night.

[Rory]

Cole's own DJ was there, and they didn't play. Was Cole's DJ that was doing the.

[Julian]

Music he played in the morning.

[Rory]

That's wild. Love that song.

[Julian]

Drake.

[Rory]

Cole, like, on the walkout now because.

[Julian]

He has, like, he. You know how train. He. Sure, yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, he's an amazing dj.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

He knows what he's doing.

[Rory]

I missed the era when the last song they played at the club was Marvin's Room.

[Damaris]

It's great time, good time.

[Julian]

Don't want, you don't want to leave.

[Rory]

It was the perfect, like, walkout record. Lights come on.

[Mal]

Closing a club is sick. Like, think about that. Think about that.

[Rory]

Oh, it's sick. Especially in New York.

[Mal]

But, yeah, closing the party, like, being there when like.

[Damaris]

But that was back when we were young. Young, though.

[Mal]

No, no, that's what I'm saying. But just think about it now.

[Julian]

When I was out in LA with Yomi, we were at apartment 200. And it was at getting close to that part, I was like. Like, I'm not staying here when the lights cut on because this crowd, it's a nasty bunch in here. I'm not trying to be hovering outside. So I. I dipped. I got the out of there.

[Mal]

Closing a party now.

[Julian]

I'm not doing the clothes here.

[Rory]

I mean, you did fall asleep at the Halfies. Though.

[Julian]

Oh, that was a different night. I did. There's some embarrassing photos of me. I'll share with them. Patreon. I was passed out on the couch with a dog for like an hour.

[Mal]

And a half at an afternoon.

[Rory]

My friend.

[Mal]

Whose dog was he?

[Julian]

My friend. It wasn't even my friend's dog. He was dog sitting. But it was like LA crew of homies. And they were okay, so you knew.

[Mal]

You knew these people?

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. It wasn't a random.

[Mal]

Oh, that's what I'm like.

[Damaris]

I'm looking like you didn't know the dog, though.

[Julian]

No, it was very cute dog.

[Mal]

But it was your friend's dog friend.

[Julian]

He was dog sitting. It wasn't even his dog.

[Mal]

Okay, but it was his dog for the night.

[Julian]

For the night.

[Damaris]

So Julian and yomi and Ro were out here getting young, wild and reckless in la, bro.

[Mal]

Like, don't put that out there. Don't put me out there like that relig. I was editing. Like, I was editing. I don't know what you talking about. I was editing me.

[Rory]

And the last night, me, rel, Yomi, Kyle, Dion, Kia and Amara all went out and got some food. That was a nice, nice calm setting.

[Mal]

We all went.

[Rory]

Kyle swore me to not give the spot up and I agree with him. It's a secret spot in LA that has probably the best fried chicken taco I've ever tasted in my life. It's like a soul house vibe, but it's not.

[Damaris]

Not so as pretentious.

[Rory]

Yeah, like you don't need a membership, but it's like first come, first serve on the tables. It's like if you know, you know, it's what. So I started at Got you and yeah, that place was great.

[Mal]

Cool.

[Rory]

But yeah, we were on our low calm, but I mean, we left. But yeah. Yeah. Where'd you guys go after apartment 200?

[Mal]

You kept talking about that spot, telling you it's great.

[Julian]

Well, it's. It's a Canadian thing. They're expanding. So the. The first official one in the States is la.

[Damaris]

I heard you and Rory's gay asses were cuddling watching the Vince Staples show. Like binge watching.

[Julian]

Cuddling is a stretch.

[Damaris]

They were binge watching the Vince Staples show together, apparently in between shooting.

[Julian]

Yeah, episodes are like 20 minutes.

[Mal]

I want to say the episodes is 20. The whole season is probably like an hour and 10 in total.

[Julian]

We were sitting down for an hour.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, we were within cuddle range. We were close.

[Julian]

No, we weren't. No, it was like Where I am in that cow. It was far.

[Mal]

Julian's like. No, you were way over there. I was way over here.

[Rory]

I was in.

[Mal]

In.

[Rory]

I passed you the phone for a food order. So we were in arms length.

[Julian]

You got up. You stood up to pass the phone.

[Damaris]

No, that's.

[Julian]

You didn't lay over on the.

[Damaris]

Was it Wednesday? Was it Wednesday? Was it not Valentine's Day?

[Rory]

No.

[Julian]

Oh, no, it was thankfully. No, it was all right.

[Rory]

Thursday, I think it was the day it came out.

[Julian]

It was either Thursday or Tuesday.

[Damaris]

National side Chicks day.

[Rory]

Sure.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

With that said, did you guys watch?

[Mal]

I did. I watched the entire. I watched the entire hour and 10 minutes. Finished it as well last night. Pretty good. I think that this. This is probably like his trailer of what like a real season of the Vince Staples show could be.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's. It. It was incredibly funny. The perspectives were.

[Mal]

I mean it shows personality is. You know, we. That was never in question.

[Rory]

I think the. The bigger win of the entire thing is kind of what you're saying. Like. Like Netflix only wanted to take so much of a risk.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And Vince took such a good opportunity and over delivered on the small bit that they gave him.

[Mal]

They gave him a small window.

[Rory]

He proved himself times 10.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

With these five episodes at, you know, 20 minutes a clip. If they don't give him a bigger budget and actually do season two as a real series, I think Netflix is dropping the ball. Like, he would not believe Vince over delivered. They gave him an inch and I think he took a foot pause. It was incredible. Everything about that show was great.

[Mal]

He did a good job. It felt like a lot of different series to me. It felt like a little bit like.

[Rory]

Issa Rae show Insecure.

[Mal]

Insecure with a little bit of atl. I mean, Atlanta with a little bit of Lil Dicky pause. It felt like a little mix of all of that. But just with Vince's personality, his sense of humor, obviously playing on a lot of things. Growing up in his neighborhood, his childhood, things like that. I thought it was dope. I really enjoyed it.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, what I like that was different about all of those. Despite Atlanta, Dave and everything. It was Vince's point of view through the entire thing, whereas Dave's. Yeah, it's his point of view, but it is very much industry. It's hilarious in that regard. Atlanta was all over the place in a great way. You didn't even really find out until the end. Spoiler alert. That it was all through Darius's point of view. Like this is Vince's Point of view. And I don't know very many shows, especially in our genre, that are direct points of view from one person. And Vince, I think, knocked it out of the park with how he did that. Other shows rely on so many other perspectives. That was just Vince's point of view through and through the entire thing. Yeah, he's the main character the entire time. It's Vince's POV where other shows have to rely on a bunch of different characters. And again, that comes with bigger budgets. But with one. What Vince did with his opportunity and budget was perfect.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, I don't even want to compare it to Atlanta or Dave or any of those because it's. It's its own thing.

[Mal]

No, it's just definitely its own thing. I'm just saying that. That it felt like one of those. Like that's how it was. Because all of those, to me, are great shows.

[Julian]

It's like hyper realism.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

It's like they're playing themselves.

[Mal]

They're playing themselves a little bit.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

The situations, location. That's why I kind of felt like insecure a lot of things. La. Yeah. Or Cali. And then, you know, again, just Vince's sense of humor and who he is, it just felt dope. I wished it was a little longer, but I do understand that this is probably the window that Netflix gave him. But again, what he did with it was incredible. And I definitely see them giving them a budget for season two for sure.

[Julian]

They definitely should.

[Rory]

What. What was your favorite episode or scene throughout the entire thing?

[Mal]

My favorite scene probably was when the dude was chasing him, shooting him with white boy. That was when Vince changed and then he went through the drive through with his son to get the food. And then Vince had them little shorts on with the shirt. Just popped up in front of the car. I was like, vince, how do you keep bumping into this? Like, how many blocks are y'all running around?

[Rory]

Three blocks, which was a callback is fit.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was from a reference to. What movie was. It was a Pulp Fiction, something like that.

[Rory]

Something.

[Julian]

The Santa Cruz bananas. The shirt that.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

Exact outfit. Was a callback to another film.

[Mal]

Yep.

[Julian]

The bank scene is hilarious.

[Rory]

I mean, the. The black business bank episode. Episode two, where he's just going to bank to try to get a loan and then it gets robbed by his friends.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Is it? I mean, to me, that's just a classic. 20 minutes.

[Mal]

That was dope.

[Rory]

There's not a missed moment in that entire thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was like exceptional writing through the entire.

[Julian]

The ending. To that episode too. The guy just.

[Rory]

Genius.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Relatable. Now the family reunion where the mom is dragging his girlfriend throughout the entire thing was, like, so relatable.

[Mal]

Who made the Mac and cheese?

[Rory]

Few holidays that I've had of just your girl having to deal with your mom and like, she's like, no, you're. You're with me now.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

That was great.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was great, man. I enjoyed it.

[Julian]

Did you guys finish Mr. Mrs. Smith?

[Rory]

No, I haven't. I tried to get into the first episode. I have to sit with it.

[Julian]

I finished it last night. It's really good.

[Mal]

How many episodes is it?

[Julian]

It's only eight.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Yeah. Longer, though. I paused then Vince's show. But it's. It's well done. And it leaves the ending, leaves room for them to rinse and repeat this cycle however many times with different people. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's good, though. I really like that I'm gonna start.

[Mal]

That because you keep talking about that. I gotta. I gotta check that out.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, highly suggest the Vince Staples show.

[Mal]

Shout out to Vince. Great job, man.

[Rory]

Did not disappoint. Well worth the wait. Yeah, I can't say enough about it, but. Voicemails. You've got mail.

[Julian]

Yay. Okay, so this isn't a question. It's more of a comment on a conversation we had. Remember we were talking about the difference between policemen and firefighters?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Julian]

People prefer policemen. Sorry, firefighters to policemen. Well, someone called and provided some historical context about why they both suck. And I just wanted to play this with you guys.

[Caller]

Hey, fellas, it's your boy Glitch from Connecticut.

[Julian]

I was just listening to episode 242.

[Mal]

The Super bowl episode, and you guys.

[Julian]

Had some quick banter about how firefighters are less racist, or, you know how.

[Rory]

Julian said they just have.

[Julian]

They don't shoot people, they have less.

[Rory]

Responsibility, and they don't, like, kind of.

[Julian]

Throw their authority around. But I did want you to understand that white cops in the 40s, 50s, 60s, anytime in American history, if there are black people in a burning building, would leave those bodies there, hearing the screams.

[Rory]

It's just a different kind of shifted.

[Julian]

Racism where it's like, you don't have to act, act. It's like if a cop saw two people getting down, they didn't do anything. It's the same thing. It's like, oh, those are black people. I don't do anything when it comes to that. So the firefighters, and you can read tons of stories about it happening in Alabama. They would hear black children screaming in these Houses and just say, okay, yeah, I want to go to lunch, or like, what's going on? So racism exists everywhere. Once you really think about it like that, you're like, oh, this is like.

[Rory]

Like, of course, of course.

[Julian]

Why not? But I just wanted to just, you know, reach out to you guys and say that. Love the show, love the pod.

[Rory]

Keep it up. Take care, guys. Thank you for reaching out. I fully understand that white people allowed black people to burn back in the day.

[Damaris]

Happy Black History Month back in the day. I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening today, too.

[Rory]

Well, he was suggesting at the beginning of the voicemail that historically. Yeah, he was putting dates to it in decades. What? I guess I'm more. I'm more curious.

[Mal]

That's not happening now. No.

[Julian]

What.

[Mal]

You think that five firemen are letting Black people burn in buildings in.

[Rory]

2024, maybe in certain parts of the country?

[Julian]

Yeah, I would say. I think they're. I think it's been proven they've been slower to respond to react to calls or like, you know, radio responses because of the neighborhood or the kind of people that they're reporting to. I think the. The argument I would have made is, hey, look like police, when they kill people, it's more public facing because it's on camera. We can see them shoot the black person that was holding a book or whatever, a toy car, and we can see it. With firefighters, it's like, okay, those calls are made. They're supposed to go to the scene, but they choose not to. So it's like they're. They're. But you're not seeing them do the thing. They're choosing to just ignore.

[Damaris]

I don't even think it's ignore, because if you ignore, that's accounted for.

[Rory]

Right.

[Damaris]

I'm sure they have systems to account for that. More just like slower to action. It's like kind of the same thing where it's like, if you call the cops in this neighborhood, you know, the cops are coming in 9.5 seconds. If you call the cops in another neighborhood, they're slower to get there. I'm sure. I would not be surprised if that applied to that public figure that's based off.

[Rory]

Off zip code. Because I. I would say when we were initially making that point and joking around saying that, yeah, firefighters get a better rap. But I was suggesting with Irish being the majority are just as racist as police officers. They just have less power to harm people.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And we're talking about the fdny. The ladders are pretty based off the Neighborhood. It's not like you're gonna get a ladder from an affluent neighborhood in New York City that's going to be late to a call in a poor neighborhood. The ladders are specifically right there in the neighborhood. Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

Late to a call. It's their neighborhood.

[Mal]

Like, we know the firemen on, like, the. One of the blocks I used to be on with my cousins, the fire. The firehouse was right next to my cousin's building. Literally right next door.

[Rory]

They only have so many blocks to. If. If the ladder is in a poor neighborhood, they don't also have a rich neighborhood for the most part. So they're not going to be slower to one block in the South. I'm not saying that can't happen or in certain suburbs, but. Yeah, I guess I don't fully understand. I agree with what he was saying.

[Mal]

It's homes. It's not even a lot of, like, you know, I mean, it's not like the same. Like, if you've grown up in the.

[Rory]

City, I feel like in North Carolina or something, one firehouse could also do a rich suburb in a poor area. And if they get a call to a certain area, maybe they. Slower. Yeah, I just. I don't know. I'm sure that. I think, of course, that was a thing for a long time, but I don't know now.

[Mal]

I just can't see that happening now.

[Rory]

Did I miss his point?

[Julian]

No. I mean, I think he was just providing more of, like, in. In the terms of history, they've done things that are equally as, you know, harmful towards poor communities, black people, than like, that. That then we thought was actually happening.

[Rory]

Like, I guess. I guess if we go into history. And again, we were speaking about fdny, so that's what I'm going to speak to. Bensonhurst is a historically racist neighborhood. You could even say to this day, to some degree, the few firehouses in Bensonhurst are only serving Bensonhurst. They're not serving Flatbush. Like, they're. That's how they work out here. So they. I'm sure the Bensonhurst firefighters are racist, but it doesn't really affect anything because they're serving the Italian community that's there. Or now the Asians that moved in over there. Yeah, yeah, they got to keep a job.

[Damaris]

I think the guy that called. Why did it widened it a little bit to maybe now.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's why. Like, I agree with what he's saying, but that's not what we were Talking about. Oh, we were talking about out here, that all firehouses are a lot of white racist people, but they work in the hood and they go there and put fires out. They do. What do you want from me? Am I wrong?

[Mal]

Anytime, Anytime in the hood, you call them. The fire department, whether it was a fire or not. They pulled up.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, I don't know exactly. Was it seven minutes after you called? Eight minutes. I don't, I don't know. They pulled up.

[Rory]

Because if firehouses are going to be late here, they're going to be late to every call then.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Because they go to the same neighborhood the entire time.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Damaris]

Speaking of cops and response calls, I found out today on the news that 8.5, I want to say, percent of policemen deaths are from domestic violence calls. They say that's the most dangerous call you can get as a police officer is a domestic violence call.

[Mal]

Yeah. Especially when the girl come out to my. No, don't arrest him. And her eyes hanging out here, it's like, get the. Out the way.

[Julian]

Like, that's her fault.

[Mal]

Like that dude, that, that family that.

[Rory]

Got killed, what Mall was saying, don't put that. That's not what he was saying.

[Mal]

The family that got killed in Brooklyn, the father and the son. See, when the wife was in the hallway, she was pulling him. It's like you pulling him and then you pulling him, trying to get him to come back in the house. He turns his back, this dude pulls a gun out. That's domestic. That's how it goes. It's like, yo, like, so I could definitely see cops going through that type of shit, for sure.

[Damaris]

Like, and also people who are domestically violent. If you'll hurt the person closest to you, you definitely shooting at a cop.

[Mal]

You don't 100%. Yeah. So give a fuck about that cop.

[Rory]

But then that's where I'm conflicted. In the defund the police category of all right, Domestic violence calls, we should send a specialist. Like, I don't think we should send an aggressive, scared cop to a man that's clearly angry and just hit a woman. But I was like, what is a specialist gonna like, yeah, these guys are crazy.

[Mal]

Want to come sit and talk?

[Rory]

No, he doesn't.

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's why I don't have a solution to that entire thing. Thing. Because I, I, that probably makes sense that that's a dangerous call for, for cops. Yeah. Somebody's losing their mind. Just hit a woman and the cops show up. Yeah, he's probably going to go nuts.

[Julian]

So yeah. Here's the. Damaris is right. Eight and a half percent is that the 43 officers who were killed while responding to domestic violence disturbance or domestic violence calls account for roughly 8 1/2% of the total number of officers killed between 2011 and 2020.

[Damaris]

That's like insane. Out of all the things police, people they can die over, I didn't even. I. I didn't even consider that. I guess I never really thought about which would be the most dangerous call. But. Yeah, that's.

[Mal]

Is that the most dangerous call?

[Damaris]

That's what they said.

[Julian]

Yeah. One of.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I could see that across the country.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That being because unfortunately, domestic violence is running rampant in all of America. I'm sure in New York City there may be a specific thing. Or in Chicago, it varies. But domestic violence, if you're going through the whole country, I could see that being the most dangerous call, for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Because inherently, in towns that have no crime, unfortunately, guys are still beating their wives and there's nothing else to do. Yeah. So the only thing that could be dangerous going to.

[Mal]

They're bored.

[Rory]

Their team lost.

[Julian]

Rory.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Build them a aquarium.

[Julian]

The Bills lost on a field goal.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julian]

And I have to shovel.

[Mal]

And Beth is in there burning the bread again.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You want me to do. Life's. Life's tough.

[Julian]

It's too cold outside to plow snow. But I still want to get out my physical aggression.

[Rory]

I watched the beginning of that. That Buffalo Bills doc on Netflix that's out right now. I did not know that Jim Kelly decided not to go to the NFL for two years because he wanted to stay in Houston and didn't want to go to Buffalo.

[Mal]

When in his career did he do that?

[Rory]

Coming out of college instead of being drafted to the Bills, he's like, fuck Buffalo. And played in some off brand league. League. And in the interview, like, the first 10 minutes, he's like, everyone's like, trying to figure out why I don't want to go to the NFL or play for Buffalo. It's like, would you want to stay in Houston for two years or go to Buffalo? There's your answer. Next question.

[Mal]

And then became.

[Rory]

And then became, no, but to not play in the National Football League, you just want to play. Like, they were at his field in Houston. It looked like some Pop Warner field where he was playing. It was like, bro, like, the weather here, like. And the.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm chilling. Like, I'm chilling.

[Damaris]

But that's his quality of life. I respect it.

[Rory]

No, he eventually went to Buffalo.

[Mal]

No but not only did he eventually go to Buffalo, he's a Buffalo legend now.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

That's the funny part about that.

[Rory]

I. Yeah, I wasn't even, like, born yet, but that blew my mind, that that was a thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I did not know that one of the most historic quarterbacks in Buffalo Bills history was like, nah, fuck that. I'm gonna play Pop Warner in Houston.

[Damaris]

I'm sure Buffalo was awful back in the day. It's better. It's gotten better now. But I'm sure.

[Rory]

They had O.J. simpson, like, two years before that. Like, they weren't a terrible franchise.

[Julian]

He was two seasons with the Houston Gamblers, who are part of the. The usfl, the United States Football League. The Gamblers took a gamble.

[Damaris]

All right.

[Rory]

No, but you got to understand, he went. Went to Miami University, like, to go from the Hurricanes, which is a damn near NFL program. Yeah, like, nah, I'll just go. I'll go throw the Nerf ball around, because I don't want to go to the NFL in Buffalo.

[Mal]

Well, in 83, that's when he got draft, so you can imagine Buffalo in 83 was not a very enticing destination.

[Rory]

Wasn't OJ Simpson just there?

[Damaris]

I mean, we're. We're not talking about the. I don't think. Are you guys talking about the franchise? I'm talking about the place.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Buffalo hasn't changed. It's still the same place.

[Damaris]

No, Buffalo's changed.

[Rory]

How, Benny, in West side, do you be in Buffalo?

[Damaris]

Are you saying how. Okay, what has changed?

[Mal]

What has changed in rough Buff since 83?

[Rory]

I don't. I don't think much.

[Julian]

More parking garages.

[Damaris]

No, things have changed. First of all, the snow isn't as bad. I don't think the snow is not as bad. No. Because everybody knows that. That it's near the Great Lakes.

[Rory]

It's like, he's from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

[Damaris]

It's Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Is not with Buffalo.

[Rory]

He didn't come from Fort Myers.

[Damaris]

Not many places are with Buffalo and snow. I'm just letting y'all know, like, if there's a big difference.

[Rory]

Okay, but can you imagine they have.

[Damaris]

More nightlife and stuff now? Like, it's built up more. They've built Buffalo up more.

[Rory]

But. All right. To come from Pittsburgh, to then go to Miami University means your dream is to play in the NFL One day when you're about to be, like, a number one pick. Pick, you say, nah, because of the snow.

[Mal]

That's. That's.

[Julian]

And the Houston Gamblers only existed for two years. It was the two years he played.

[Rory]

There, he funded the league.

[Mal]

The league folded. When he left, it was like, well, there goes.

[Rory]

After he signed to Buffalo franchise, which they didn't mention that in the doc. But Julian, I think they said in the DOC he played in the USFL for the Houston Gamblers where he was a two time mvp. And we're like. Like we figured that he stepped in and smoked it.

[Mal]

Two time MVP in existence.

[Rory]

It was like when they kicked Ricky Williams out and he went to the Canadian Football League. Yo, Ricky's killing up there. Like. Yeah, we know.

[Mal]

We figured he would.

[Julian]

He was selected 14th overall in the draft by the Bills.

[Rory]

So crazy. But that doc is wild. Also. I suggest. I think it was lover. Stalker. Stalker Lover or something.

[Mal]

I was. I was gonna watch that last night.

[Rory]

I watched it last night instead of watching The E score 205 points because I got sick of it. Great duck. So many twists and turns. It makes you scared of like just dating, period.

[Mal]

I thought. I must say, I thought about Julian when that. When I was gonna watch.

[Julian]

Wait, what Doc, sorry, what's one more. One more thing to close this because I'm just. Still now I'm looking at his.

[Rory]

Oh no, watch the doc.

[Julian]

It's looking at his career accolades, guys at the bottom, first team, you know, five time Pro bowl, all the NFL. But then if you go to the bottom, his USFL accolades, two time all league team, two time most valuable player, rookie of the year, USFL all time team.

[Rory]

Yeah, he was playing against me.

[Mal]

Yeah, he was a fucking man. He was the leader. Obviously his fold. As soon as he left.

[Rory]

You have to see the confidence in that interview of him saying like, why would anyone want to go to the league when I could just be in Houston chilling.

[Julian]

That's hard. Good for him. Wait, sorry. So what were you saying? What's this date?

[Rory]

It's like lovers, stalkers, whatever the name.

[Mal]

Of the is, you meet people online, right?

[Rory]

It's from More Fish in the sea. Sea fish. Get some fish. Like one of the.

[Damaris]

I know what you're talking about.

[Julian]

Lover, stalker, killer.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's it.

[Rory]

Oh, that is it. Okay, maybe.

[Mal]

Yes, that's it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Plenty of fish.

[Rory]

It's just like plenty of fish. This is the worst.

[Mal]

Where we just watched it, doesn't know the name. Yeah, like that's what he's like. Is it it. That's like when his. When his. When his luggage kept going around on the belt and he was like, that's not my bag. I'm like, dog, like pick up the Faucet. Julian, pick up the bag and look.

[Julian]

A little embarrassed over there.

[Rory]

But if you think about it, like, do we own anything in the matrix that we're in?

[Mal]

No, you own that bag that we watched go around on that carousel for 15 minutes.

[Rory]

Matter. How could I put any ownership to matter?

[Julian]

Matters.

[Rory]

Matter.

[Julian]

All right, man, Give me the bag.

[Mal]

Yeah, let's get the out the. Are you talking about? Pick up the bag and let's go, man.

[Rory]

I'd rather have that bag in Houston instead of Newark. You can keep it in Newark. I'd rather have no bag in Houston.

[Mal]

Yeah, Houston. Don't need it.

[Rory]

This was the worst Plenty of Fish ad of all time. I don't want to do spoiler alert, but Jesus Christ.

[Julian]

Oh, so you didn't like it?

[Rory]

No, I loved it. But Plenty of Fish is the app that he was using, and it goes off the phone.

[Julian]

I heard about that app.

[Rory]

It was like one of the first.

[Damaris]

That's like one of the first apps like that and eharmony.

[Rory]

All I know is this dude was running through Nebraska like, he was. He was the Drake in the brow. He was throwing dick left and right.

[Mal]

He was the Jim Kelly of Nebraska.

[Julian]

Throwing dick in Nebraska is sick.

[Rory]

Whatever. I forgot what city he was in originally. And they got divorced and followed his kids. It was like, yo, I'm not. Not going to take care of my kids. So. So I was like, it. I moved to Omaha just so I could be close to him. But, you know, naturally I went on a dating app because I was single and 30.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

And this started everything.

[Damaris]

Oh, was he killing them, though?

[Rory]

No. Oh, quite the opposite. His dick was that good that the. They was killing over him.

[Julian]

No way.

[Rory]

He was the illest in Nebraska.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Rory]

He took it away from Nebraska.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

These were killing each other over him.

[Rory]

Watch the dog.

[Julian]

I gotta watch this.

[Damaris]

That's fire.

[Mal]

That's fine. Yeah. How toxic is the matter? That's fire. What you talking.

[Julian]

I mean, if you're him, you got to be feeling good about yourself.

[Mal]

No, you don't. He probably feel like.

[Rory]

Throughout the entire. To every twist and turn, that game key and I were looking at each other like, yo, how ill is this dude? They're doing this over him.

[Mal]

Yeah, they was born in Nebraska.

[Rory]

I mean, he was a handsome guy. Work as a mechanic. I feel like that would be.

[Mal]

I feel like that's most guys.

[Rory]

That would be like. But that would be the Drake of Oma.

[Damaris]

The mechanic.

[Rory]

Like, you have a full head of hair. You're handsome. You work as A mechanic like him, he had a one bedroom apartment.

[Mal]

In Nebraska. That's him.

[Julian]

His Eric drake is a 96 Oldsmobile.

[Rory]

And even like his. His first apartment kind of had a modern look that I don't think anyone had seen. Like, he was. He was slaying pussy.

[Mal]

He was the first one in Nebraska with blackout curtains.

[Rory]

He was the first.

[Julian]

His bed's on the floor.

[Rory]

He was the first one in Nebraska. Go to H and M and then bring it back.

[Mal]

Okay, yeah, yeah, I got you. He was the first one in Nebraska with a neutral bullet.

[Julian]

Yeah, I gotta check this out.

[Rory]

Plenty of fish dot com.

[Damaris]

I'm interested.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm gonna watch that tonight because I definitely saw it on. On Netflix and was like, this looks interesting. I'll watch it.

[Rory]

Do we have one more? Or we can play one more if you guys want.

[Julian]

Yeah, let's give someone some actual career advice. How about that?

[Mal]

What's going on?

[Caller]

New Roaring Mall Pie it is.

[Mal]

Mike.

[Caller]

I am 24, currently living in Delaware, Born and raised here, unfortunately. And my question, maybe not maybe a question, but more so just trying to see what you guys think about my current situation and where I should go from here. To give a bit of backstory, I live with my grandparents. They're in their late 60s, early 70s. They're traditional older black grandparents, so they prefer to me to have a job to continue staying with them. So I do work full time at a warehouse and they don't really charge me for rent. They, you know, prefer me to stack my money up. They hate when I try to give them more money because they want me to save that money to get my own place. So they're, you know, they're pretty cool. Now as far as where I'm at right now, I do content creation. I only have a YouTube channel right now where I review movies and shows. I know that sounds corny to review movies and shows, but I like it. I like going to the theaters. I like watching movies and shows. I like talking about them, giving my thoughts on them and stuff. And just like, a month ago, I finally was able to join a YouTube partner program and able to start making money from it. But I also kind of want to start another YouTube channel where I'd, like, talk about, like, true crime stuff, because I'm also interested in that field as well. I also kind of wanted to start writing, like, shorter stories and stuff. And the reason why I'm asking you guys is because y'all are people that have seemed to dip in, you know, dabbling in different, you know, Entities, not just the podcast and stuff. So I just wonder if it's better for me to just kind of stick with the whole movie and review channel or should I branch out now just in case those other things might catch a little bit quicker?

[Rory]

Well, first of all, congrats for getting into YouTube partner program for getting the views enough to monetize. That's great. First things first, I wish you would have plugged the channel and said it True voicemail. So I don't know if you can reach out. Like maybe we could plug it somewhere. But you. Is that an ao? Okay. Yeah, I think it's fine to. To branch out now. But just make sure you have the movie review down to a science. So that just becomes like muscle memory. And you can just do that quickly if you're going to start branching out to other stuff, because that's going to become tedious. Starting a YouTube channel from zero is very tough. So. So, yeah, as long as you feel like you have that movie under control and it's at the best possible place as far as content goes, do that and then grow the page. I would just. Sometimes people get ahead of themselves and. And don't master what they're doing with one thing and move on to a bunch of. And the main thing can suffer. I've been. I've been victim of that before too.

[Damaris]

So make sure you is a master of none.

[Rory]

True. I mean, that's. Yes. Really my only advice, make sure that the movie review that's working right now is in its best place and then. Then branch out.

[Damaris]

I feel like.

[Rory]

And don't confuse your consumers too. Like, if you're doing movie reviews and then all of a sudden now you're reviewing Tupperware, it's like, all right, this isn't the same audience that I'm trying to bring over to my other page. And you could confuse your core fan base if you start doing that stuff too early. So.

[Damaris]

Well, I mean, he said true crime. I. My advice, I don't know. The Julia might disagree with me. I wouldn't split your views. I would keep it on the same channel and turn it into playlists, especially if. Okay, so what I would need to know is, is your face in these movie reviews? If your face is in these movie reviews, I would keep it all on one page. If your face is not in these movie reviews, I would split it. But if you have. If you're become. People care about people, so when they're going. They want to. You want to be the person that these people come to for these reviews because they like who you are and they like the way that you do reviews. So you can cross pollinate your audience for the true crime and for the movie reviews if you stick to one channel. So I would do that. I also like, I advise all content creators get on TikTok because it's so easy to get views and virality and followers on TikTok. It's so much more friendlier, algorithm friendly. Excuse me. So I would definitely get on Tick Tock. You can take some of your clips from your YouTube and throw them on Tick Tock. It doesn't have to be separate recording. So that would be my advice to the marriage.

[Julian]

I'm not mad at. Yeah, if you have a channel and I agree with kind of both of what you're saying, to Rory's point, if you're monetizing on YouTube, don't sink the ship that got you to this point. Keep, keep the monetization growing because that's gonna to ultimately probably fund your other endeavors. Regarding Damaris's point, I think for the time being, keep it on the same channel. And just like what we do. If you look at what with My Karma Is Beautiful or the skits, it's all lives on the same channel. It's just, you know, thumbnails are very important and we organize it with playlists and you can kind of, if you want to find it, you know where to go. Utilize the Shorts tab as well. Damaris mentioned TikTok and just kind of blast content everywhere that you can on all the properties. Don't isolate a. A social media platform, but it sounds like you're doing the right thing. Just keep doing it. And if you get to the point where, again, you're comfortable and you're making enough money with the main one, then maybe, you know, slow grow the other ones, but focus on the one that's getting you the. The bread for now. At one point, it was the same approach you probably have with these other ones. I want to do this. You did it. You know, you're capable of doing it. Just keep doing that and then, you know, the other ones will fall into place when it's time.

[Rory]

But do you guys think that's a risk early on? So, for example, My Karma's Beautiful, we launched that after it was well established within our algorithms with the podcast. So our podcast didn't suffer because maybe My Karma's Beautiful had less views. Like, we can take those risks because we have an established channel. He just got into the YouTube partner chip team, which means he's just starting to get the right amount of views to monetize.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If you launch something completely different outside of movie reviews, that could start to. With your actual algorithms because the channel's not as established. But I don't have. Again, I don't have the answer to that. I'm asking if the output.

[Julian]

Well, I think to the point, like if your output of the new movie reviews, the thing that's you're known for doesn't. If that's not taking a hit based on this new content. If it's just like subsidizing it. Like if the movie review comes every. Every Monday.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Maybe on a Thursday. Here comes this new piece of content. I think if you do it like that, there's a way in which it makes sense. But I think, yeah, I don't think it's like, okay, well, now that I'm doing these other two things that I'm passionate about, I'm gonna actually do one less movie thing this week. Do not do less of what you've been doing. Either keep that the same or increase the output of that. What? You're also just increasing the work because you're going to be doing other things as well. But just make sure the thing that got you there stays the same. If not grows more.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And in conclusion, I don't think true crime is far off of movie reviews.

[Damaris]

That's why I said I think.

[Rory]

Yeah, I think it's a good conversation we're having just in YouTube overall. But yeah, if you're doing movie review channels, true crime can stay on the same channel.

[Julian]

And I'm sure he has an affinity for like thriller and horror film. I'm sure that there's a lot of crossover there.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Good luck. I wish you all the best. This content creating game, especially when you're just creating from scratch and ideas that are in your brain, it's not. As somebody who's trying to do it, it's not easy and it's tough to be consist especially. And that's the key to being successful in this. So all the best to you. So, yeah, please reach out to us so we can check your stuff out.

[Julian]

Tell us your channel too. Call back.

[Mal]

Yeah, tell us your channel.

[Julian]

Yep.

[Rory]

Big facts. Tell us your channel. That almost sounded like sexual. Tell us your channel.

[Mal]

See how weird he turned.

[Damaris]

That is gay, bro. I keep.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, what's up with y'all?

[Julian]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's wild.

[Julian]

I was like, you guys, you guys are nuts. Nuts. Because like I was coming up on the elevator, and when I got. I saw Rory and he. His phone, he was looking at the Drake videos. It was nuts.

[Rory]

Which Drake video?

[Mal]

Yo, so we're gonna rap, and you.

[Rory]

Can look at my history. What outrage videos.

[Mal]

Don't worry about the Drake video.

[Julian]

I heard the hum of the jet.

[Mal]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Well, anyway. Tickets on sale March 23rd. We are in D.C. at the Howard Theater.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

Tickets on sale now. Merch available now newroarimall.com subscribe to the Patreon. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. Hit the like button. Comment on the videos. Let us know how you're enjoying it, how much you hate it. How much you hate us. How much you love us, how much you're tired of us. Let us know something. We're here. And yeah, we'll talk to y'all soon. Enjoy the rest of the week. We'll be back in a few days to kick it. I'm that nigga, he's just ginger. We're back home in New York City.

[Julian]

Peace, new warrior now.