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Mal
If you're a man and a dude says, yo, give me some head.
Rory
Oh, even with the gun, I don't think you can get me to do it.
Mal
I'm dead, Roy.
Damaris
If you want to die, you gotta kill me. Take me out of misery.
Rory
Cuz the moment like I would put my mouth on the dick, I would look up and be like, just pull the trigger.
Mal
At this point, bro, you gotta kill me.
Julian
Getting shot with a dick in your mouth is crazy.
Mal
No worry.
Rory
Cuz it's all in my head.
Damaris
I think about it over and over again.
Rory
I can't keep it. True music and it hurts so bad.
Julian
Yeah, cuz it's all in my head.
Rory
Guys, I have something to tell you.
Mal
Great.
Rory
Maul and I hung out outside of the podcast.
Damaris
Really?
Rory
Yeah. So we're deading all the rumors that we don't hang out.
Mal
What?
Julian
You saw each other a block away from the studio and walked over together.
Rory
We went to Brooklyn together.
Mal
Something like that.
Rory
We're pretty much married at that.
Julian
When the Brooklyn Chop House.
Mal
No, I would never go to Brooklyn Shop house.
Julian
You split a porterhouse.
Rory
Oh, yeah, Because. Because of the vegan thing.
Mal
Exactly. Yeah.
Rory
But they'd be in. They'd be in there though.
Mal
I don't want to go with Ab at. Let me start. How's that? Cap, tell me why that's Cap, tell me why me saying that is Cap.
Damaris
Why would you not want to go where the bad.
Julian
Yeah, that's weird.
Rory
Bleep that.
Mal
First of all, where I be at, it be some pretty women there.
Julian
Not chop outs.
Mal
It just ain't the women. That's Instagram and shit. TikTok and shit. I don't want to go with none of them bitches. Is that taking pictures in front of neon lights and get. I don't want to know.
Rory
But the plate says the name of the restaurant.
Mal
I don't want to know. I don't want to be nowhere near that.
Rory
That was. Whoever came up with that idea first was a genius.
Julian
Oh, yeah.
Mal
Putting the name at a restaurant, they.
Rory
They understand IG chicks more than any human being ever.
Mal
No, it's been name of restaurants on plates since way before social media.
Rory
But like, recently, I feel like the ones that the girls go to all added the name to the plate.
Mal
Yeah, well, I mean, that helps the specific restaurant, but does it help that specific restaurant though?
Damaris
Yes, because I feel like.
Mal
I feel like it's certain people you don't want to your establishment. Like if you have a restaurant, when.
Julian
It gets to that point, that's when you know, you're successful though.
Mal
Yeah, but just. There is a such thing as having the wrong type of people in your establishment. This.
Rory
We'll go on cook a little bit more.
Mal
Yeah, like if you have.
Rory
Like when Tommy Hilfiger didn't want a certain group of people wearing clothes.
Mal
Tommy Hilfiger never said that. Oh, that's a rumor that they need to. To bury and never.
Rory
That wasn't true.
Mal
No, that wasn't true. Tommy Hilfiger never said that.
Rory
Look how easy we can put racism. Exactly.
Mal
Exactly.
Rory
What did Crystal really, like, love black people?
Mal
I mean, I didn't go down that, that, that, that hole.
Rory
But they're French though, right?
Mal
I believe so.
Rory
Oh, yeah. Then they said that.
Mal
Shit. Yeah, I believe, I believe they are 100%. But yeah, it's just certain.
Rory
100% said that when you have an.
Mal
Establishment, like you're open, say you're opening a restaurant and you have an idea of the type of restaurant, the type of decor, the ambiance that you're setting for your restaurant, there is a certain type of people that you hope to attract and a certain type of people that you hope will continue to visit your establishment.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Now if you know Instagram models or whoever frequent your spot and they ig it and TikTok it and the business is flooded, that's great. But if that attracts a certain aesthetic, like now the baddies from Bad Girls Club is in there and they start fighting in your establishment.
Rory
It's a good promo.
Mal
No, it's not. You don't want that in your establishment.
Damaris
If that's the, if that's who you're creating. I get what you're saying completely. But if that's who you're creating that establishment for Brooklyn Shop House is created for, for the Instagram models. Say less is created for the Instagram models and the rappers. That's the, that's who they want in there.
Mal
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But if going into it, if you building an establishment and that's not your business model.
Rory
Well, I think, yeah.
Julian
Cause that happens.
Mal
It could be packed and you know it. But if it's not the right people frequenting your spot and people are fighting and shit is popping off outside, you don't want that in your place of business.
Damaris
Yeah, no, for sure.
Mal
I don't give a fuck how much money they spending.
Rory
Not to make it too local, but like Julon, which is a restaurant in New York that became a very industry, music industry spot, plus Instagram model spot, same people that are now say less. I don't think they set out to have that esthetic, but just leaned into it once it became that.
Mal
But every.
Rory
Because every spot made them successful.
Mal
Every spot becomes an Instagram vixen spot. Once one goes there, all it takes is one to go and take a picture or video that she was there.
Rory
But say less. Like that was their goal.
Mal
Because people don't even know what they like. No more. People just following who they following. And if they see somebody go to a restaurant, I want to go there. I want to try to go chicken wings.
Julian
Well, then you're you talking about. You're also drawing from the. And especially in a city like New York that's heavily, like touristy. So when the people come and visit, they want to go to these spots and the three nights they're here. So you're drawing like from all over the place. Don't fuck with those places. I feel like it's all the people that see it and hear about it and like, I gotta go there.
Mal
People on social media that are following people that some of them don't live in these cities. And when they go, they're like, oh, I want to go there. But me, I talk to the people that's from the city that locals like, yo, where's the real good food at? Not the social media, good food.
Julian
Come cow.
Damaris
Because my little sisters told me they wanted to go to Brooklyn Chop House and I said I would rather cut my own foot off.
Mal
Why they want to go to Brooklyn Chop House?
Damaris
Because the baddies go there. That's why they want to go.
Julian
Because they ate boys.
Mal
They want to run in. They want to hopefully run in the Fab. They want to run in the Fab.
Damaris
We can go to Pergola. You want to run in the Fab? We can go to Pergola on a.
Rory
Wednesday at Go to Target in Jersey or into him.
Mal
Running. Running in the Fab at Target might be cool though. Beyonce, like running into a rapper at Target.
Julian
A well lit.
Rory
Just go on River Road in Edgewater. You'll run into your top five.
Damaris
Beyonce says that she loves going into Target in Jersey. Like in like masked up and like with a hat on. And I'm like, girl, you can hide. You. You can't. We all know who your security is. Like, you can't hide your security.
Julian
Yeah, I feel like comedy Julius is.
Rory
More famous than most entertainers, bro.
Damaris
If I see Julius, I will have a panic attack. I know Beyonce is somewhere in the vicinity.
Julian
Yeah, Back to the plate thing to the point of instagram models just wanting to take the photo of the plate with the name on it. I feel like if I owned a restaurant like that, I would just fuck with all these women and put like a clock that's permanently on 11 11. So every girl's like, oh my God, my angel number. And she's like, I would just like with them like that.
Rory
But that's it.
Mal
Just have a clock on 11.
Julian
You're just always on. Permanently on a left. But it's not like, for like a neon sign. Like it's a gimmick. It literally just looks like a clock. So when they look over to it, they're like, oh, my God, this is moment.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Or just get nine different versions of plates where you can have 1111, 222, 333.
Julian
Because it's so rare to see those. They don't happen twice a day.
Rory
No, not at all.
Julian
It's just extremely rare to catch an 1111 on your wrist.
Rory
If you want to make money though, why wouldn't you do that? Like, restaurants are taking advantage of the social media dating scene where you need to spend a whole bunch of money to go date a bad chick, so their restaurants can over charge for everything. It's a beautiful business model.
Damaris
Yeah. But the food is suffering now. It's like so many Instagramable restaurants. There's the neon cool sign and there's all these.
Mal
And the food is frozen and they throw that in the air fryer, put some peanut sauce on it, and you slop it up like a.
Damaris
What Philippe do to you?
Mal
Philippe is terrible.
Rory
I've always thought that.
Mal
I always thought that food was terrible. That food is terrible. I never liked Philippe. Never.
Rory
Philippe is Julong without a neon sign.
Mal
Without the wings on the wall. Take pictures in front of girls, see wings on the wall, and they got.
Julian
To take a picture like. Like the entrance with just fake plants. And you know, those things just collect dust.
Mal
Speaking of plants collecting dust, take that plant that's in the front and roll that down in front of you. Lon, get that out of here.
Rory
We do need to put that somewhere. It's taking up.
Mal
I know, we know. I know exactly where we could put.
Damaris
Insert photo.
Mal
I got. I got a. I got a great place where we could put it. We have to take that pot.
Julian
Yeah, that pot. That pot is nice.
Mal
What you gonna do with that pot?
Julian
But like, like a reasonable sized plant. You could probably fit two plants in there.
Mal
You can take that pot and put it in your living room. How about that?
Julian
I would, but I Think we could do it something nice with it here?
Mal
Looks terrible.
Rory
I saw moles like studio swag yesterday. That was cool.
Damaris
Oh, so that's where you guys were, was the studio.
Rory
We were in the stew, yeah.
Damaris
Oh, nothing.
Rory
I don't call the studios.
Damaris
I thought, like, it maybe was something, like, fun.
Julian
So what? Okay, so you coordinated a studio session and then you ordered Chop House to the studio?
Mal
God, no.
Rory
That should come with an A Boogie feature for sure.
Mal
Yeah. Hey, Boogie should bring the food. He should bring the chop House to you and be, like, with a hook. Yeah. Like, I got a hook for you. Like. Yeah.
Damaris
Who are y'all in the studio with? Like, y'all being real mysterious. The.
Rory
I'm not sure if I signed a moneybag Mall NDA. I'm not sure what I can talk about. It was mall sessions, so I.
Mal
People, they'll know about it sooner or later.
Rory
Well, yeah, it was some fun bucket list stuff that happened in the studio that, you know, Mall will be putting out soon. But, you know, it was nice to see your studio swag. How do you feel about my studio swag?
Mal
I don't. What was your. I don't. I was so, like, in my phone shit and going through emails and shit. What was your studio swag? You have your laptop. You have.
Rory
Well, I mean, you saw how I command a room, I believe.
Mal
Command a room?
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
I don't know if I saw how you command a room.
Rory
You saw my productions wag.
Julian
Well, you pulled out the sauvignon blanc.
Rory
No, rose. There was rose in the studio.
Mal
Rory does that, though. Rory hit me. It was like, yeah, I'll come be a fly on the wall. Right?
Julian
Then you just hear the.
Mal
He's not a fly on the wall. No. Yeah, definitely not a fly on the wall. He's a mosquito in your ear. There's a different. When I say I'm gonna come be a fly on the wall, you won't even know I'm in the room. Like, I'll be in the corner chilling in the cut on the couch. Roy's like, yeah, can you slide that over? I'm like, yo, fam, what happened to you being a fly on the wall? Yeah, slide that over right there. Then bring that. Then double act. She can lay. I'm like. I'm like, yo, what are you doing? I thought she was gonna be a fly on the wall. That's the same thing he did at his album thing. Like, nah, I don't wanna give a speech. I don't wanna talk about it. But this next Song. What we did was we flew out to Morocco and, you know, there was this old. There was this old ancient man in the town that played the Congo.
Rory
Ancient man is.
Mal
And we found him and we brought him in, and, you know, we flew him out for the day, and it was his first time on a plane. And we had him play the Congos right here just for these four bars, and then get out to his village. It's like, yo, what are you talking about?
Rory
I'm glad that the story was entertaining, so I let it rock. Now can we tell the truth?
Mal
That. That was. That was my truth.
Rory
You got there three hours later than me. Okay, I was a fly on the wall in the beginning, and then I was asked my opinion, and then from there continued to be asked my opinion. And the ideas I had, they wanted me to do, so I did them.
Mal
Okay, I'll double check on that theory.
Rory
Oh, ask both of them, because Rory has.
Mal
He has a habit of doing that. That's what happened. Is somebody like, well, no, that's not exactly what happened. Like, I asked him what he thought about the verse, and then he was like, well, I mean, I would take this and double lay it over here, and then, like, pan it out that way, and it.
Rory
Okay, so. But what if I'm right? And what if everyone loves it, loves my idea and goes, yeah, we should do that. Matter of fact, help me do that.
Mal
It's not. It's not about being right or wrong. It's just that you initially said you'll come be a fly on the wall, and I was.
Rory
And then people started asking me for shit.
Mal
No, you were not.
Rory
You were that. You came three hours late.
Mal
Rory, you're never a fly on the wall in the studio. It's okay. You're never a fly on the wall. Yeah, cool.
Rory
I agree with you.
Mal
So don't tell. Don't call me and tell me you'll come be a fly on the wall. That's all I'm saying. Whether you're right or you're wrong in your ideas, that's not questionable here. I'm never questioning that. I'm just saying don't be like, yeah, I'll come here to fly on the wall. It's like, bro, you ain't got to do that with me. You're never gonna be a fly on the wall in the studio. It's never gonna happen.
Rory
Okay, well, I tried, and then.
Mal
No, you didn't.
Rory
Yes, I. You weren't even there.
Mal
I don't have to be there. I know you. I Know you. I don't have to.
Rory
I don't have to. You know me as a phenomenal fucking producer. No matter what room I'm in. Legends asked me what to do.
Mal
I know, I. I know you as somebody that if you're in the studio, you're not going to be a fly on the wall. That's what I know.
Rory
In that setting, in any setting in.
Mal
The studio, you're not going to be a fly.
Rory
I definitely have before.
Mal
No, you have.
Damaris
Did he make the songs better?
Mal
This. I mean, the song was cool. It's not like it's not even done yet, though. It's just ideas. It's like it's not a. A complete song yet because you gotta finish it. It's just, you know, it's just. The shell is great, though. Like, the shell of it is there, but, you know, still gotta tweak some shit and change verses and add shit. Like, it's. But it's gonna be a good record, though, for sure.
Rory
Nas and Hit Boy, I was a fly on the wall. I didn't say a fucking word. I was terrified.
Damaris
You didn't tell Nas he changed your life?
Mal
No.
Rory
Remember? Cause I like, he knows that, but.
Mal
See, but that's different because you wouldn't do that with Nas, though. You wouldn't just start trying to, like, produce a Nas record.
Rory
Whoa. The people we were with yesterday are of the caliber they are. Nas in their.
Mal
Oh, the producers, for sure.
Rory
To me, that's even crazier to tell the legendary producers like that how to produce, let alone a rapper.
Mal
I'm just. I'm just.
Rory
Nas isn't a producer, so he could.
Mal
I'm just taking some production, calling me and saying he's gonna be a fly on the wall in the studio. That's never happened in the history of Rorydom. Has Rory ever been a fly on the wall in a studio? Never happened.
Rory
They laid the first NASA hit.
Mal
Boy, I could believe that, but I would have to. I would have to ask Hit. I would have to ask him. Boy.
Rory
No, he. I was dead quite.
Mal
I was.
Rory
I was terrified.
Damaris
He was starstruck.
Rory
Yeah, absolutely.
Damaris
So are you getting points on the record?
Rory
No.
Damaris
Like you.
Mal
I do.
Damaris
I do.
Rory
I do it for the love.
Mal
For the.
Julian
You said give me a smooth eight.
Mal
For the love is crazy. I do it for the love of the game.
Rory
I was a fly on the wall. When they laid the first verse, I was asked an opinion. I gave a suggestion of how to structure it going into the. To create a bridge and to create a hook. They Loved it.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
And then asked me to help out in creating it.
Mal
Okay.
Rory
And then. And then from there, it became my record. I'm joking.
Mal
I'm just laughing at the fly on the wall. Shit, he's the loudest fly on the wall you'll ever see in the history of flies on the wall. Let me just tell y'all that.
Rory
But this.
Julian
This is a horse fly.
Mal
Oh, no, he's a fucking. He's one of those hornets you notice in the cr. Hornet out the nest. That's what he is.
Rory
Okay, but this goes. This is a call back to a great conversation we had about opportunities and taking them rather than just being the quiet.
Mal
See, that's why. That's why they told him to stay away from D'Angelo's door. Remember? Remember when his ass was walking back and forth acting like he had to use the bathroom and kept playing instrumentals like this in his ear? They like your fam. Do me a favor, don't walk past this door again. Like. See, that's why.
Julian
Fly on the wall tapping, snapping and humming.
Mal
Yeah, Fly on the wall, like. What are you doing? Sit your ass down. Stop walking past this D'Angelo room.
Rory
Okay, but you remember the conversation that we were having in that regard, right? For those that don't know, we were discussing. If you have the opportunity to work with certain people or be in studio sessions, would you not respectfully shoot your shot when the time makes?
Mal
But that's not an opportunity to work with D'Angelo.
Rory
I know. I'm talking about last night.
Damaris
Last night we already know.
Rory
I would have fucked up that D'Angelo situation, but I still would have tried. Yesterday was a bucket list thing for me. I didn't overstep. I was asked and I thought it went great. And now I have a different relationship with those guys. Outside of just some media pod shit. Now there's a musical relationship.
Damaris
Ma, if he was a real friend, you would be happy for him.
Mal
I'm mad for him.
Julian
Yes.
Rory
Mad for him is crazy.
Damaris
I didn't say you were mad for him.
Mal
I'm just laughing at the fact he said he was gonna be a fl. Flying a wall to me. And I know he's never going to be a fly on the wall in the studio. That's all. That's all I'm talking about. But.
Damaris
Well, are you happy for him that you helped further his musical relationship?
Mal
Sure. I'm not. I'm not here to. I'm here to always further anybody's situation.
Rory
Wait, so white Poindexter me you Simba, ATL Jacob. Sorry, I dropped a lot of names in Atlanta. We were both slides in the wall. There's been JD there's been JD Sessions where I haven't been, and I haven't.
Mal
I don't know how much of a fly on the wall you were after I left. I left that session.
Rory
Oh, we didn't. We didn't do.
Mal
I don't need that. I don't know.
Rory
I think we smoked hookah and drank Doucet.
Mal
All I'm saying is if a cop asked me what happened after I left, I. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Rory
You're still an accessory.
Mal
I would have to ask ATL Jacob, like, yo, how did the session go? If he'd be like, yo, nah. You know, Rory through some ideas, at them, like, okay, he wasn't a fly on the wall. Like, that's all I'm saying.
Rory
Actually, the only thing we did do was listen to ATL Jacobs, like, his personal music, and he was doing for other people, where my only response was, that's fire. I didn't make any suggestions. I didn't say, yo, you should get this person on the. I just enjoyed the music he was playing because it was great. Okay, JD sessions. I've been a fly. Sometimes I haven't, but we've been in with JD Division, chilling. I've been a fly on the wall.
Julian
Rory's just. Yeah, I was gonna say he's just combing through moments where he's been a fly on the wall.
Damaris
Every studio session he's been burning past 10 years.
Mal
You know how much his feet was like this the whole time in his sneakers when he was just trying to be a fly on the wall. Like, I just want them to stack that one part right there. But I don't want to say it. It's okay to say. It's okay to offer some outside air. Sometimes that's great for a studio that's part of a studio. That's why I love what Kanye does. Like, people that are in sessions with him. If he gets inspired by what you're wearing or something. You said, like. And he says it on. Like, he'll give you credit on the song. Like, sometimes you need that in the studio. You need other ears and other ideas and other, you know, points of views on a song. What does somebody hear? Cause it may be a great reference, a great recommendation.
Damaris
So when I was growing up, I always seen studio sessions, like, they always painted them like it was mad bitches in there. Like, just, like, bitches in the studio half naked. Is it still like that? Like, are bitches still giving each other head like, in that one Jay Z interview, or. No?
Mal
Well, that was Uncle Luke's interview with Jay Z, and if Uncle Luke was doing an interview, I'm sure there's gonna be naked women around.
Rory
That was in a studio. I thought that was, like, in a strip club.
Mal
Oh, it was somewhere.
Rory
Oh, it was in the booth.
Mal
Sofas. No, it was like, sofas. They was. I don't know where they was at. It probably was in a lounge area or something like that. I don't think it was a recording studio.
Rory
She ate pussy for a while.
Mal
Well, you know, when you want to be thorough in your investigation of the box.
Rory
Do you think she, like, tuned out the interview and was just tunnel vision, uneaten pussy? Or do you think she was, like, trying to hear what. What hove had to say?
Damaris
Like, yeah, you know, I just wrote that one take off the top. She's probably like, that's fire.
Mal
You know, that they didn't care nothing about what Jay Uncle Luke was talking about.
Rory
All right, this is, like, another $500,000 or lunch with Jay Z. Listen to a Jay Z interview in person. Or eat pussy.
Mal
Me?
Julian
Oh, I'm eating pussy.
Rory
One that you like.
Julian
I'll catch that on YouTube the next day.
Mal
But, like, in front of.
Rory
No, you don't have to eat pussy in front of Jay. You eating pussy in front of Jay?
Mal
Yeah, I'm about to say who's doing that?
Rory
And with y'all history, he would. He would steal the chick.
Mal
Yeah, yeah.
Julian
Probably during the interview.
Mal
At the same time, I'd just be.
Rory
A fly on the wall.
Mal
That's somebody's mom now.
Rory
And this is how I know that, like, I am kind of prude. I'd be very uncomfortable being thigh to thigh with that woman that's getting her pussy ate when I'm doing an interview.
Julian
That's pre Covid. Damn. This is pre 9 11. The world was so lit.
Mal
It's just fun, yo. You know what's funny about seeing Jay in a situation like this? This is so, like, not who he is today.
Julian
Well, yeah.
Rory
Was that even him then?
Julian
No.
Mal
Like, that's probably. That was the first and only time he's ever done an interview like that. But it's Uncle Luke.
Damaris
He is probably so uncomfortable.
Mal
That's Uncle Luke. So what you gonna do, man? That's part of his aesthetic. Have some. To have some women around that are, you know, enjoying each other's bodies.
Julian
So this was what the studio looked like last night.
Damaris
I'm sure life was. Yeah.
Mal
No, the studio last night looked nothing like that. I could promise you that. Looked nothing like that.
Rory
Yeah, there was one girl there and she was there to lay vocals.
Mal
It was nothing. There was nothing like this. This is a whole different type of session.
Rory
I live in the R B world where that, that doesn't happen. Like the rap world is where they just have. Because it takes them five minutes to lay a verse and then they have a six hour studio session. So it becomes a party. R B takes longer and it's less distracting. So I don't know.
Damaris
Yeah, that. I mean, I get it. It just seems like it would be fun to watch.
Mal
Women always think that men is somewhere and it's just like a Hype Williams video shoot. I promise you it's not.
Rory
I mean, I think it's important for artists to like dedicate a session to inviting a bunch of women and like casual fans to hear because you need the opinion of the cast.
Mal
Am I a listening session?
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
I feel like women should be in every studio session. Not like there to. But like women shot. You should always.
Mal
So what are you doing? I'm joking.
Rory
To cook.
Mal
Yes, I agree. You should have.
Damaris
You should always be making music to clean up.
Mal
We spilled Hennessy.
Rory
Yeah, yeah. Fold my hoodie.
Damaris
Roll my blunt for women's ear.
Julian
The lady referee.
Mal
Yeah. No, but I get it though. I agree with what you're saying. Like, you need a woman. Like, I would love to have women around when you're creating music because women tend to be honest with their reaction to music.
Rory
But then you. Sometimes you run into like the woman that's actually like a music fan for real, and she has no idea, like, how to actually contribute to the studio. But she's one of those that's like, you know, I listen to Wiz Khalifa before anyone. One of those.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
And she will just not shut the fuck up during the session with suggestions, but has no idea what she's talking about, has never seen Pro Tools and is just saying shit.
Mal
She's just a curator of vibes. Exactly.
Julian
Rory's describing the Rory of women.
Rory
It's not me at all. We can, we can try to make that. That, that narrative.
Julian
Would you not call her a fly on the wall?
Mal
That woman is definitely not a fly on the wall. But yeah, so she's a mosquito at night, buzzing around.
Rory
I'm talking about the girl that, when you're doing the verse is like, you guys should think about putting a hook on It. It's like, yeah, no, we were going to get that.
Damaris
That's fucking annoying.
Mal
No, that's the girl that can leave now.
Rory
Or, like, the most annoying girl that, like, shouts out features that are so astronomically impossible. Like, I think J. Cole would sound great on this. All right, fucking call him then. Yeah, I'd love to have him on this, too.
Mal
We all do. You don't say. You don't say. J. Cole would kill this.
Rory
Drake should do this hook. Cool.
Julian
She probably knows him. Those kind of sick Taylor Swift would.
Mal
Sound great on it. You don't say.
Damaris
I'm quiet in studio sessions because I'm so. Like, I'm so terrified. And I never want to be that girl. But sometimes I do think, like, oh, this would be. Like, this doesn't sound right. I can't say what's wrong with it, but something's wrong. Because I don't have the term in my brain of what's wrong, but something's wrong. Something's missing. And I just know that that's not helpful. Somebody probably look at me like they want to punch me in the face, so I just shut up.
Mal
But you know what? This. This. You shouldn't be afraid of that, though, because Shout out. My guy Mez. He. He directed J. Cole's video. I forgot the name of it, but it's probably still J. Cole's most viewed video on YouTube. That was his first time he did role models. Was that the video where they were driving, like, the Maybach truck through the mud and like that?
Julian
Oh, no, I don't think it's that one. He met, he. When we were in la, he told us this. This story, like.
Mal
And he, like, that story is phenomenal. He didn't know any terms. He didn't know equipment. He didn't know anything. He was just saying, like, yo, just pull a camera out. I want it to look like this. Like, what was it? Middle Child, which was huge. So Mez, shout out to my guy. Mez. Mez directed that. That was the first video he ever directed. He didn't know what equipment was, what. He didn't know how to, you know, certain terminology when it came to videography and things like that. He just had an idea. I think he had. I think he had the lighting, some of the lighting. Cause I think he was trying to shoot a video for himself. He's an artist as well, and I think that was it. And it just turned into him just shooting. And Cole and Cole was dope enough to give him a shot and be like, yo, Bro, direct my shit. Which I think is absolutely speaks to just the person that J. Cole is to just trust somebody that had never directed a video before, but just trust their creative mind and their creative genius and give him an opportunity to create. Which was what became J. Cole's. I don't know if it still is, but at the time it was his most. Most watched video on YouTube.
Rory
Yeah, that's. That song broke like a shit ton of records.
Julian
That's his biggest, his highest performing record.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
Crazy.
Damaris
I just listened to that song in the morning. It's an amazing song.
Mal
So, yeah, when you say. When you say stuff like that, like, you don't know how to. Don't be scared. Like, you still have creative energy and creative, you know, thought. Like, just because you don't know how to say it and verbalize what you're trying to say, that doesn't mean that what you have to offer is not something of substance and something that's dope.
Rory
I was. When I was watching the Murder Inc. Doc, I forgot the entire story, but Irv, like, got his first shot to produce. I forgot what artist it was, had no idea how to make beats, and was like, yeah, I'll meet you at the studio tomorrow. And then, like, called his friend and was like, yo, what's an mpc? Where do I get one? Can you show me how to work it in three hours?
Mal
Right.
Rory
And spent the whole night practicing and went the next day. Was like, I'm your producer. Yeah. Sometimes not fake it till you make it, but you have to see opportunities.
Mal
And just go after it sometimes, you know, know when to take your. Take your shot, you know what I'm saying? But also be prepared as well, you know, I mean, as best you can. Like, I think that Mez story is phenomenal and just, you know, speaks to somebody that's just a creative genius and just was like, fuck it. I'll try it.
Damaris
Has he gotten more work since then? Like, more big work since then?
Mal
I think Mez has directed some videos. I know. I think he directs most of his. His own shit because he's an artist as well. But I'm not sure how many other other artists he's directed for after that.
Rory
Yeah, Mez is super talented.
Mal
No, Mez is one of the, you know, if you don't. If you're not familiar with. With Mez, he's one of the most creative and, you know, talented people that I've ever had the opportunity to kick it with and get to know. Like, his. His creative mind is just amazing.
Julian
Like, I believe he did a. He did a Miri for Cole as well in 2021.
Mal
So he's Miri.
Julian
Yeah, he's got a couple records with Cole alone.
Rory
That was when they were, like, on the fdr and was that in New York? It's not that important. Or maybe Felton directed that one. I don't know. We're kind of going on. On tangents here.
Damaris
But that was. I think that was really good advice, Malt, for you to give just to the listeners, Amari, because there's a lot of people who. Who probably feel the same way that I feel when they. They feel like they will be good at something, but they might not have the technical background for it or things like that. And, you know, you freeze up, you get scared. You get imposter syndrome.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Because you don't. You think that. You know, a lot of times we put these obstacles in front of ourselves that are not even there. Like, we think things are a lot more difficult than they are and a lot tougher than they are. And then it's like, you gotta start sometime. You gotta start somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, just start. And a lot of the times, you'll figure it out on the way. Like, it's. A lot of our favorite executive producers and songwriters, they didn't know how to structure a hook and a bridge and things like that. They just know that they've had ideas and they've had lyrics and, you know, they just was like, I just want to put this out. And some of these people are now in the Songwriting hall of Fame, you know, musical geniuses that just didn't, you know, they didn't know at first what they wanted to do, but they know they had creative energy and they wanted to put it out into the world.
Rory
So that's what's so interesting, just about creative in general. Like, you could have someone that goes through all the steps of. And why you. Film school and like, all the technical, you know, they get the mentor and they do everything, and then just some kid that picks up a camera ends up having a better creative mind and goes much further. Same with trained musicians. Out the ass with every school you could think of. And then you get some kid that literally just has a vision and a MacBook, right. And outdoes that person, you know, which I think is great. Some people hate that.
Mal
But, yeah, as long as you have that creative passion, man, just create. Like, don't. The technical terms and all that other. In the. The legal jargon and all that, all that just Create and you'll figure that out along the way.
Rory
Music theory.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
What key we're in.
Mal
Yeah, who gives a. Let's just go. Just auto tune that. Don't worry about it. Just getting.
Rory
Put some verb on my.
Mal
Just shut up and say some and then hit the auto tune and we got a hit. And that's just how goes.
Rory
No, I don't know what I said. Yeah, Sounds good though.
Mal
Yeah, fuck that.
Rory
I like the strategy we did a few episodes ago of throwing a voicemail in early. Do we want to do that today?
Mal
You've got mail.
Julian
I was going to do a classic relationship one, but going off the current conversation we're having, I'm going to switch it. This one is directed at Damaris, but it applies to everybody here, so.
Michelle
Hey, everyone, my name is Michelle, I'm calling from Chicago.
Mal
Hey, Michelle from Chicago.
Michelle
I have a question for everybody, but more specifically Damaris. I know that she has a 30th birthday coming up and it had me reflecting on the big 30s experiences that I wanted to have before I turned 30 a couple years ago.
Mal
The big 3, 0 ones.
Michelle
The first one was to visit all seven continents. I ended up making it to five. So I'm pushing that goal now to before I turn 35 and the other to have a threesome. And I knocked that shit off my list two days before my birthday. It was incredible. Crazy ass story, but great experience.
Rory
Tell it.
Michelle
So my question is, before turning 30, Damaris, is there anything that you had wanted to accomplish for yourself? And check off your free 30 list or for anybody. Is there any silly little goals like that that you had before a big milestone birthday? Rory, I really hope to hear new music from you this year. Stays on repeat.
Rory
Wow, so you guys make it back.
Michelle
To Chicago this year.
Rory
It's never not playing in her house.
Mal
Stays on repeat. Michelle, stop lying. You listening to drill music and them Chicago all day in your house.
Rory
You think she played Chief Keef in her threesome?
Mal
100.
Damaris
Oh, wow.
Rory
Not my album.
Julian
Bang Bang.
Mal
Hell yeah.
Julian
Bang bang to a threesome is crazy.
Mal
Exactly.
Julian
Two people are coming.
Mal
So Damaris, you're halfway to 50. So what we're gonna do is we wanna know exactly what are your goals for turning 34?
Rory
Some.
Damaris
Oh, wow.
Rory
Six'em.
Damaris
I'm like, yeah, I'm over halfway. Thanks, Michelle, for calling in. Honestly, I gotta, I gotta. I have to. To be honest, I had a bunch of little goals, you know, in my 20s that I wanted to hit before 30. I wanted to definitely be married or.
Julian
At least think Next decade, we'll give another shot.
Mal
All right, Stay in the game, baby. Stay in the game. Keep your head up, keep your eye on the ball. All right?
Damaris
Yeah.
Julian
All right, what's next? Where else have you.
Damaris
I wanted to be married. I wanted to be on my way to having children. I wanted to own a business. There were so many things that in my 20s, I was just like, oh, like, these are things that I. I'm going to accomplish before I hit 30. And then my 20s came, and all the things that I thought I should be working towards were actually not the things I were working I was working towards, but before 30. Currently, I'm really close, but I just want to get my head right. I just want to be close to.
Mal
Getting your head right.
Julian
You want to get some head.
Rory
Can you guys take anything seriously?
Mal
No.
Rory
Good.
Damaris
No, I'm letting them get there.
Rory
Like they're on the same.
Damaris
Like, you know.
Julian
All right, but okay, but let's be serious. I just actually want good head before your 30s.
Damaris
I would. That would be night. If you haven't gotten good head before you're 30.
Rory
No, you shouldn't be focusing on all seven continents. Go get some head.
Julian
You.
Mal
Yeah, I would.
Damaris
I mean, going to see all seven continents would have been dope.
Mal
She's at five, so that's fine.
Julian
You think she had a threesome on. On one of those trips or a local.
Rory
The Antarctica trip.
Damaris
She was a little late on the threesome. My threesome was like my 21st birthday.
Mal
Well, I've never had a threesome, so.
Rory
I'm extremely late, so maybe for 50, that could be one of your goals.
Julian
Yeah, but you did the train.
Rory
You don't want to be having threesomes in your 50s or 40s.
Mal
Oh, this nigga's having threesomes and five Sims in their 50s.
Julian
Yeah, yeah, we just saw the Diddy stuff.
Rory
True.
Mal
I can't wait till you see Diddy outside. I hope I'm standing right. I hope I'm standing right there.
Julian
What?
Rory
It's going to be Russell. It's gonna be Russell Simmons, Diddy and Julian in Bali.
Mal
I'm standing right there.
Damaris
You ain't gonna help him?
Julian
No.
Damaris
Fuck you.
Rory
Me?
Julian
That's a Diddy side.
Mal
I'm not taking. No, it's a one on one.
Julian
No how? I don't know. You're there. You should be involved.
Mal
Out of here.
Rory
Hey, man, I'm just a fly on.
Mal
The wolf head up. I'm like, yo, listen, you gotta fight. What you gonna do? I'm not. I'm not in that.
Julian
I don't know.
Mal
Square up. Square up and fight like a man.
Julian
Just offer him some head. He'll feel like that's his bag.
Damaris
But when I said it, I just.
Mal
I just can't wait to be there. I just can't wait to be there. But, yes, Damaris, you want to get your head right before Michelle.
Damaris
Yes, I just want to. I want to get my head right. But to be fair, going into 30, I feel like I'm getting older, so there's a bunch of things I can't do. Like, I feel like I'm getting too old to wear crop tops. I feel like I'm getting too old to have certain piercings or, like, I'm getting too old to dye my hair certain colors. Like, I feel like I have to enter into, like, my grown woman business girl with a bob era.
Mal
So dress for the job.
Julian
Dress like a teacher.
Damaris
Well, to y'all see, I got this fucking pantsuit on. I don't want to have this shit on. I want to have a bathing suit top and some cargo pants on with some heels. But I feel like I'm getting going.
Julian
Weird in this current environment.
Mal
Yeah, where are you going with that on?
Rory
Like, that's how Glorilla dresses every day.
Mal
But that's why I want to go.
Damaris
Back to, like, how, like, loud. I used to dress on MTV in, like, 2000.
Mal
Yeah, but she was at the beach house.
Rory
Yeah, she was at.
Damaris
Okay.
Mal
Yeah, she was at work.
Julian
Not a soundproof room.
Mal
Yeah, she had the MTV beach with.
Julian
Controlled lighting and no windows.
Mal
Maris want to wear bikini top and cargo pants.
Julian
Here, there's no windows.
Rory
She wants to be a VJ in 2024. Remember, VJs a VJ.
Mal
Yeah, they're all podcasters now.
Rory
Yeah, pretty much that's all it is.
Damaris
See, I'm going backwards. All right, well, so anything y'all wanted to hit before y'all hit 30 or a major milestone age?
Mal
I just wanted to be alive. That was it.
Rory
That's deep.
Mal
Yeah, of course I. 30. Because you, you know, so when you think about 30, when you're, like, 15, growing up in a certain environment, seeing people, you know, die, go to jail for, it's like, damn, 30. Like, don't make it to 30.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
So I was just like, man, listen, I just want to be healthy. I don't want to be in jail. I want to be alive. And that was enough for me. I think sometimes it's great to have goals, but sometimes you just gotta just have some. Just bottom line, shit. Cause then if you don't hit those big goals, you start feeling depressed like my life is. And then somebody on your timeline will save your day and they'll say, well, Oprah didn't start her show until she was 42. You're like, all right, I got some time.
Rory
Then you'll scroll to the next page. It'll be someone your age that has hit every goal you were trying to do.
Mal
Exactly.
Rory
Or no, they just, they just bought a house. They just had their third kid.
Damaris
Yeah, you know, it's me now. The fudgeing. The 19, 20 year old girls on Twitter who fudgeing own hair salon. Multiple hair salons in multiple cities and drive around and fucking G wagons. And they're like 20 years old.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
I'm like, yeah, I always said my 20s fudgeing.
Mal
So those all the Trump supporters mall.
Julian
We're talking about 30. But when's your. Is your next milestone? Would you say it's 45 or 50? Like what, what do you look at now time wise?
Mal
I don't, I don't, I've, I've, I said like monthly. Like it's not like yearly or, or.
Rory
You'Re more of like a Tuesday guy.
Mal
No, I just said like monthly. I just want to have an hour done and knocked off. Like, I'm not, I don't, I don't that yearly, you know, that's all. Birthdays is cool, but I'm, I'm more like realistic. I'm like, all right, I need to get this done before March, April. Like, I'm doing like that now.
Rory
Tomorrow's earlier point. I would say my goals now is to actually put less pressure on myself about goals and enjoy the time I'm in.
Mal
Enjoy right now as much as I can enjoy right now.
Rory
That's a big thing in my 30s that I've been failing miserably at, by the way.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
But at least you know, I'm aware.
Mal
Yeah. Sometimes you got to just enjoy where you at, enjoy the moment, enjoy the process and just know that, you know, it was times where you didn't know think you will be where you are right now. Definitely was times where I didn't think I would be where I'm at right now.
Damaris
So if, if that, that would that be the advice you guys would give me going into 30 because I didn't want to ask you guys. It's funny that this voice more came up if you had any advice for me going into 30, I'll be 30.
Mal
And my advice for you going into 30 would be be open and willing to try and accept things that you never even thought about.
Julian
Anal.
Mal
I don't know where that falls on the list, but hey.
Julian
Well, based on that reaction, it sounds like it hasn't been done yet.
Rory
Mine's gonna be kind of, kind of corny. You have to get to know yourself again. Like, learn to get to know yourself in your 30s because it's not the same as your 20s. Yeah, re. Get to know yourself, find out things that you may have disliked at one point. May, like now, like, dude, do the.
Mal
Things that you like to do in your 30s. You know, not what you think you're supposed to be doing in your 30s. Do the things that you genuinely just like to do.
Damaris
But I never want to be like that. I never want somebody to be like, her old ass. She need to go sit down some. Like, I can't be the old bitch.
Rory
30 is not old.
Damaris
Trying to look young.
Mal
30 is not old, but to the.
Damaris
Young girls it's old. Because I remember looking at 30 year olds like, she didn't sit her ass the fuck down. She's old as Fuck.
Rory
As a 30 year old, you shouldn't feel old. Any pressure or judgment from people in their twenties that don't you measure yourself.
Julian
To someone that was born in 2002. Shut up.
Rory
Like, because you have to remember you. We were all that same ignorant 22 year old. Thinking we knew everything and looked at 30 year olds is like, oh my God. Now I know I was wrong. But that doesn't mean I'm Gonna Judge the 22 year olds acting the same way I did. As far as viewing people in their 30s, the only thing, same thing.
Mal
The only thing I would say for you is you still are young enough to still be in the clubs. Yeah, but it's, it's, it's how you acting in the club now though, that's, that's the only difference.
Rory
You could definitely be 30 in the club. These are old.
Mal
There's no. You can.
Rory
49 year olds in the club.
Julian
You can't throw ass like you're in your early 20s.
Damaris
See, I stopped. Excuse me, I stopped doing that a long time. I don't. Being in the club and throwing ass is just not. I'm a very like how Rihanna champagne in my hand.
Julian
Rihanna in India when she like half pump faked it. Like you gotta do it like that. You can't like huh.
Mal
At 30.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
No, at 30 you can still throw that ass.
Rory
You can throw ass at 30.
Mal
Yeah. Hell yeah.
Rory
You can throw assets. 60.
Mal
Well, where are you church. Okay, that's cool. That's cool. As long as you're in church, you're.
Rory
In the deacon's chamber.
Mal
That's cool. Throw that ass. Throw that ass, Ms. Mary. But no, you can't at 30. You could be in a club throwing ass for sure.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Okay, so what's the. What's the cutoff for that? 34?
Mal
No, I would say like 37.
Damaris
Okay.
Rory
There's never a cutoff. It's. The cutoff is to the consistency. If you're 37 and doing that every Saturday and Sunday, then we have an issue.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
But if you want to go to the club every now and then and throw some ass with your friends, I don't think there's an age limit.
Julian
Yeah, I agree.
Damaris
Okay.
Rory
For women, I think for men, it's a little creepier when you're the old guy in the club.
Julian
But if you're going with other old guy. Like if you're just going with your older friends to just have a fun.
Rory
That sounds like the police need to be called.
Julian
I'm not a whole group if you're not.
Rory
Yeah, but if you're intense, where is security?
Julian
If you're intense or 10, like, say you're going with your wives. My wife. And you bring your wife to the club and it's you, your two best friends, and their wives as well. There's six of you and you have a table. You're doing the night out. That's your night. Yes. It's creepy if it's like the single dude in his, like 50s that just has him at the table and then like every bitch half his age. Yeah, that's weird. That. Yes, that's a no go. No.
Mal
I can't wait to run into Leonardo.
Julian
See, now why are you trying to line me up against every A list celebrity?
Mal
I just can't wait. I can't wait till you see him.
Julian
He moves differently because I feel like that's someone I would have seen in those months. But he moves on a hole. He'll just bring him to the yacht.
Mal
I was in the club.
Julian
Give me your phone.
Mal
One night, though.
Damaris
Oh, did you take it?
Julian
I would love to go out with a patrol.
Rory
Was that wasn't their names, was it? Yeah, yeah, it was patrol.
Julian
Yeah, it was David Blaine, Leonardo, Tobey Maguire, E from E from Entourage.
Rory
I forgot his name.
Julian
That's a sick crew.
Damaris
Yeah, and none of them are hot, but Leonardo. So I know Leonardo was just pulling all the. And whoever he didn't want, he was passing back to the Other ones.
Rory
First of all, David Blaine.
Damaris
Okay.
Rory
David, I feel like could probably just off sheer creepiness and mystery could compete with Leo at that time in the club. Sure. I think was definitely trying to go over to David Blaine to see the posse. Pussy posse. See, that's what I thought they were.
Julian
Come on.
Rory
Matching robes is crazy.
Julian
Killing them.
Mal
You know what they was doing? Matching rose. That's the morning after the hang. Hangover night, everybody. Like, we gotta drink green tea. Drink a lot of green tea. I heard it helps. And wear this robe.
Julian
Kevin Connolly was in it as well.
Rory
Yeah, it's Eve from Entourage.
Julian
Oh, that's his name. I never knew his actual name.
Rory
It must have been really interesting when, like, one of them was method acting at the time. Like, really getting into a role when they were at the club. That would have been kind of creepy. But David Blaine, I feel like was doing that at all times.
Julian
So, you know, he went out with a deck of cards.
Mal
Oh, for sure.
Julian
He was making panties disappear in like 12 Rolexes.
Damaris
Making bitches panties disappear is. You're serious?
Rory
Probably. I was making. I was. I was 10 when they were doing.
Damaris
If a nigga make your panties disappear, you gotta fuck.
Julian
Do you?
Rory
I kind of feel like.
Mal
Or you've already been fucked and don't know.
Rory
It's crazy. It sounds like a Rick Ross line.
Mal
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, if you don't know.
Julian
Where your panties are, insert out of here.
Mal
What else don't you know?
Rory
And you know.
Mal
You know now word for my sponsor.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
And you know, at times he wasn't even. He wasn't even doing tricks or magic. He was just hiding behind his allure and just staring them in the eyes like. You're wet now.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Aren't you?
Mal
Aren't you?
Julian
They used to beat up people. They used to, like, get in like gang fights and shit, which is pretty funny.
Damaris
Gangs of white men. Do you leave them alone long enough?
Julian
Yeah, they were.
Mal
That's a sick crew, though.
Julian
They said they were highly offensive and misogynistic. No, they were a list actors in their early 20s in New York.
Rory
And if you like, look at that squad. I think Kevin is from Long Island. Terrible drinkers.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
David Blaine's from Brooklyn and Leo is like an actual LA kid. Right?
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
That's. Add in some Jaeger. That's a scary group.
Julian
Jaeger.
Rory
Add some cran teenies in there and they're punching somebody.
Mal
I think having a magician as part of your, like, crew is fire. Fire. That's fire.
Julian
Especially when you're not him. Like, to be the magician's whack, but to have him around is fire, I think.
Rory
I think the hating friend would be the funniest to observe. Like, let me show you how. That's not even a real magic trick.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
Whispering the chicks, like, giving them the secret. Like, yo, you know he's not even magic, right?
Julian
That was definitely.
Rory
Imagine going, yo, you know, magic doesn't exist.
Damaris
That's od.
Mal
Hate.
Damaris
That's od.
Rory
I would hate on David Blaine for fun.
Mal
Absolutely.
Rory
If there was a group of girls.
Mal
There, I would tell every girl like, yo, you know he has. It's three coins, it's in his back pocket. Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely doing it.
Damaris
Like, nah, but see, I wouldn't like that, dude. Like, why you being a fucking hater?
Rory
Like, nah, I would hate, like, yo, you brought a dove to the club. Like, did you have that in your. Yeah, your jacket the whole time?
Mal
How'd you get that in? Frogs coming.
Rory
No one patted him down. How did you get that in?
Julian
Just spit up an aquarium the fuck out of here.
Mal
You're having a friend that could just spit up frogs on demand.
Julian
You just like spit a koi fish.
Rory
That got to be fire financially. That's great though, because you don't have to buy bottles in the club. Yeah, just have him drink like three bottles of vodka and he can just spit it into everyone's drink.
Mal
You want a drink?
Julian
42.
Damaris
Is that 42? It's filtered.
Mal
Casamigo. Warm.
Rory
Call me nasty though, but when it comes to club bottle prices, I may. I may take.
Julian
You would drink the Blaine?
Rory
I would take the Blaine. 42. Instead of paying. Instead of taking a $1500 tab to get a 40 bottle. Yeah, I might do that.
Mal
Nah, give me a bottle of water. Fuck that. I'm on water on that.
Damaris
Being in the club on water is awful. That sounds like the seventh circle of hell.
Mal
That's when I found out that the clubs was really terrible.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
That's why when I stopped drinking, I said, oh, the clubs. Clubs are trash.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Like, this shit is just loud and they want you to just get drunk. But this shit is really tr. Everybody's on their phone. Everybody's just standing around. Chicks just making videos of themselves, acting like they like the chicks they sit next to. They don't even. They don't even know these girls. They don't like these girls.
Rory
Nah. It's their bestie they just met on ig.
Mal
Like get. Be sober and just sit back in the club and look at everything. Tell me if you'll ever go there.
Damaris
I can't. I can't. I die.
Mal
It's the worst. Yo. Whoever came up with the idea of club, they had to be like, out of their mind.
Damaris
Well, clubs didn't used to be like that, though.
Julian
Though.
Damaris
Clubs used to be fun places. Everyone was dancing.
Julian
Everybody was off that good coat.
Mal
Yes.
Rory
It was the coke.
Julian
Yeah. There was no sections. It was just cocaine and a dance floor.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Sounds like a simpler time.
Julian
Which is lit with the light up floor.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
There's a place in Chicago used to go that like, born to had that essence. It was a club with just open, all light up floor. And it was just that everyone was coked out.
Damaris
Yeah. I was in there square. I'm talking love. Y'all going crazy.
Julian
I loved it.
Rory
If they did like a Studio 54, like, anniversary, I would do coke.
Julian
Why do shrooms there?
Rory
Just. I don't know. I want to feel part of it, but it's not. That's the only. Only time I think I would do cocaine. But it's not outside of. If Rihanna wanted to do coke with me, then I would do coke.
Mal
Why Rihanna?
Rory
I'm just trying to think of someone that I would do anything for.
Damaris
Someone I would do anything for.
Mal
Rihanna could get you.
Rory
Respectfully, Rocky, I'm sorry.
Mal
Yeah. Rihanna could get you to do coke.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
I'm pretty easy.
Mal
That's what I was getting to next. Like, I think that any girl could get you to do coke. No.
Rory
What? You know me, girls. I've hung out with that do coke in front of me, and I'm like, no, I'm cool.
Mal
Okay. Why did you say you was cool?
Rory
Because I don't like cocaine.
Mal
Oh.
Julian
It wasn't trying to be.
Mal
It's not. Julian. Julian would have been like. Thought you'd never ask.
Julian
That is so not true. What used to be. Yeah, of course.
Mal
Oh, no.
Damaris
Julian really doesn't, like, he's like, really separated from coke.
Julian
I'm not separate. I hang out. Everyone I know does coke.
Damaris
I mean, like, you don't. Yeah. You really know anymore.
Rory
You know who would kind of be like a downer to club with?
Mal
Who's that?
Rory
Ryan Garcia.
Mal
A downer. Yeah.
Rory
I just feel like, you know, the vibe.
Mal
I think he would have had a club lit right now.
Rory
You.
Mal
You think put him in the DJ booth to host. Yeah.
Rory
And tell stories.
Mal
Exactly. Imagine story time at. At the club if somebody just gets on the mic and tells a story.
Julian
Imagine thinking you're going to the club with Him. But then he takes you to, like, one of these satanic rituals, and you just see little boys get stretched out.
Rory
I don't think he's gonna go back to those.
Julian
I don't think he's a choice.
Rory
Well, he's an adult now, and he can fight.
Julian
Didn't this just happen?
Damaris
Yeah, I think he was recently.
Rory
Oh, I thought this happened, like, when he was a kid.
Julian
No, he wasn't reminiscing.
Rory
Oh.
Mal
All right.
Rory
Well, please show me the clip for those that don't know.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
Hey, bro.
Julian
All right, talk to us, bro.
Mal
I don't give a bro. They held me down. They made me watch little kids get raped. I don't give a. Anymore.
Julian
Where.
Rory
Wild question valid, bro. They took me to the woods, bro.
Mal
And they type. I'm not joking, bro. I have proof, bro. I don't give a bro. I will show you every video you could ever believe. Bohemian Grove is real. They tied me down and they made me watch, dog. I absolutely don't give a.
Rory
Here's my thing. I mean, I'm Tinfoil Hat man and do believe that there is satanic rituals and, like, they are kids and trafficking them. Where I'm not following is that they brought him there against his will, tied him down. But he was still able to keep his phone to get video footage.
Julian
Yeah, yeah, that seems.
Rory
Yeah, like, I feel him. But I'd love to see the proof and how you were able to. To do that.
Mal
This is the wildest promo for any boxing fight I've ever seen in my life.
Rory
And also, like, why didn't you just close your eyes?
Julian
Well, I mean, if you're there, you gotta watch.
Mal
Do you.
Rory
I mean, at least to get your bearings of, like, what is about to happen. And then once you get some context clues and start adding things up, I'd probably start closing my eyes.
Mal
Listen, those places to me, definitely exist. I'm not saying they don't. It's just something about Ryan Garcia that I just can't. I Not saying I don't believe him, but I'm not saying that I do believe him. I'm kind of, like, indifferent about this. Here's a guy that's had 230amateur fights.
Julian
Yeah, his head is.
Mal
That's a lot of boxing. That's a lot of hits. That's a lot of, you know, possible, you know, brain damage and cte, things like that. But I don't want to. I don't want to step on, you know, Like I said, I'm not dismissing it and saying I Don't believe him. But I'm not saying that I fully believe everything that he's saying either. Now, I do love the fact that he spoke about, you know, Tank whooping Devin Haney's ass in a sparring match and they called him out about it and he said he had the footage and he put the footage on his YouTube, like to prove to people that he wasn't lying. So, you know, he has good. He has good credit with saying I have footage and actually providing the footage. Let's say that.
Rory
But why? Because I did watch the rest of the clip and I even was going through articles, I couldn't figure out why he was brought. Like, who was he hanging out with. You're like, why, like, was he kidnapped? Like, it just. There wasn't a lot of information that was given for me to be on board, even though I'm usually on board with these type of conspiracies.
Mal
Yeah, like, Ryan Garcia to me, is not the A list boxer.
Rory
Like, the fact they didn't bring Floyd.
Mal
There, like, Tank never been there. It's like, it's so many boxes that's bigger than him. That's, you know, I would think that they would probably try to pull those guys into.
Rory
Maybe De La Hoya brought him. Ah, he's not a De La Hoya.
Mal
I mean, he looks like him.
Rory
Didn't De La Hoya get caught up in some.
Mal
He was found cross dressing in the hotel room. You know, getting, getting Hank. Little hanky panky. Yeah, man, get a little, little hanky panky.
Julian
The.
Rory
Just cross dressing in your hotel room is hilarious.
Julian
Dolo.
Mal
Okay, try them Cavalli's on kids.
Julian
The, the Bohemian Grove. The, the place he said he was taken TO is a 2700 private acre acre campground. It's a gentleman's club. And it's, you know, or the Reagan's, the Nixons, all the, you know, all those people that you would expect very.
Rory
Trust, trustworthy people the most.
Julian
I mean, trustworthy. They ran our country pretty trustworthy. And you know, it's. Of course, when you're looking at people of this stature, of this caliber, especially in a private land way off in Northern California, they just. There's always been allegations over time of nasty going on with, with children. So that's kind of the basis of the, the location that we're looking at.
Rory
Or did he just like, was he going to the gentleman's club just like on his own type of shit and like took a wrong left?
Julian
I don't think you can stumble your.
Rory
Way he missed the grown woman area.
Mal
I don't know, man. I don't. This type of shit, like I said, I believe it. I know it exists, but. Well, I don't know. Like, I've never been. But I'm just saying, I. I'm pretty sure places like this exist. But I just don't understand why Ryan Garcia is choosing now to disclose all of this and why he's doing it. He's saying that he doesn't have his credit cards, he doesn't have access to his Instagram account, but yet he keeps uploading and tweeting from his account. Like, I just don't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know. I think this is. It's great promotion for the fight.
Rory
CTE is also a real thing.
Mal
CTE's.
Julian
He's been boxing since he was seven years old.
Mal
Yeah, yeah.
Julian
And he looks. Look, I don't want to put drugs on his jacket, but in these, he's doing. It looks like he's got classic signs of someone that's, you know, sniffling, itching, like, twitchy, fidgety, all that shit could be the cte, but.
Damaris
But one could say that the CTE or the drugs is what's making him not be so afraid to. To tell the truth. Because you. If something like this happens to you on some elitist shit, usually you keep your mouth closed because you know the dangers that can come with you exposing things like that. But if your brain is fucked up or you're on drugs, then maybe you can forget to not tell the truth.
Rory
I mean, I'm going to give the elites more credit than trusting a possible boxer. With CTE and a drug problem into their inner circle. I just think they have better judgment. I don't know if they're picking Ryan Garcia.
Mal
And another reason I don't understand, Hunch.
Rory
I don't know.
Mal
Because now all of a sudden, he's saying he's only talking about boxing from now on. He's only talking about his upcoming fight.
Rory
It's a wild thing to say after you say a statement before it's like, bro.
Mal
Aight, man, like, so what was all of this shit for?
Julian
They were raping children in the ass. But this fight Sunday.
Mal
Yeah, but now I'm only talking about my fight. Fuck that fight, man. What is this rape you talking about? Like, talk about that like. I don't give a fuck about a fight. So this is why I can't really, you know, I'm trying to, you know, understand Ryan through this, but it's just like a lot of things is pointing to just 230amateur fights, you know?
Julian
Jesus.
Mal
I just. I'm just like, all right, maybe now, but now here's the interesting part. The fight with Devin Haney. If he goes on and performs well and wins this fight, then we gotta get back to the shits, Ryan.
Rory
But you have to.
Mal
You gotta get back to the Grove.
Julian
Celebrating the Grove.
Mal
Tell us what happened. Show us the. Show us the footage.
Julian
Pop bottles.
Mal
And don't just show me in, in, in, in, in. In capes and masks and shit. I want to see who's underneath the capes and masks.
Rory
I think the more pressure is on whoever is hired for that fight to do post game fight commentary and interviews with each of the fighters in the ring afterwards. Because I don't really particularly care about a right hook after Ryan Garcia said, if I'm in the ring with him and a mic, post game, who's it?
Mal
Jim Lampley? Is that his name?
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
He does the post game, post fight.
Mal
I think it's him, right?
Rory
He still does it?
Mal
I think so, yeah. Jim Lampley still does it, right?
Rory
Like, I'm not. I'm not asking about the third round. I'm asking about the children you saw raped. I don't care about this Takate ad below us. What. What about the kids, Ryan?
Mal
See, Max Kellerman is the guy for this.
Julian
The. God, I miss Max.
Rory
Max, yeah.
Mal
Max Kellerman is the guy for this.
Julian
Joe Rogan would be good at that, too.
Mal
Yeah, but Rogan. Rogan. But see you. But see. Cause Rogan is so smart and separate, educated. Like, as soon as Ryan starts talking and you can't. You can't whip Joe Rogan's ass. I see. That's the other part. A lot of these, A lot of these guys that are doing, like, commenting.
Rory
Well, the rest of us can't whoop Joe Rogan's ass.
Mal
Ryan Garcia cannot interviews. Ryan Garcia cannot whoop Joe Rogan's ass. Let's just put that out there. I'm just letting y'all know that right now, Ryan Garcia cannot whoop Joe Rogan's ass.
Rory
He can outbox him.
Mal
Whoop his ass. I'm saying. I'm being very specific with my words.
Rory
I'm with you. Okay.
Mal
Ryan Garcia. Now, Joe Rogan walked up to Ryan Garcia and starts talking to him and starts trying to figure out all of this shit that he's talking about. And then Joe Rogan starts to smell bullshit and he says, ah, I think you're lying. I think. And then Ryan starts talking spicy.
Julian
Yeah, he's gonna put the short temper, Ryan.
Mal
He could have as short as the tempers. He won. But Joe let me Joe Rogan to kick that nigga in the next Thursday. You ever see Joe Rogan kick?
Rory
Like, I've seen Joe Rogan do a comedy set, chug a Bud Light, and then do a crane kick.
Mal
So yeah, bro, have you seen Joe Rogan kick? Pull up Joe Rogan kicking a punching bag.
Rory
Oh, it's wild.
Julian
They said it sounds like gun.
Mal
That just sounds like bro.
Rory
Every rib is shattered.
Mal
Somebody kicking you like that. Like, look at Joe Rogan, bro. Are you kidding me? Somebody kick you like that, you're gonna be for three summers, man, straight.
Rory
I don't think you'll ever again.
Mal
Yeah, like blood. It's gonna be blood in the toilet bowl.
Julian
He and I think financially would probably be better. Not that Joe needs the money, but a better look for him to not have that moment ringside and just have the podcast. Just do that shit in your podcast. Like, yeah.
Mal
Oh, I think Rogan definitely already reached out and set it up. Whatever you do, Ryan, don't go to Club Shay.
Rory
Shay, with what I was about to say. I was about to say Shannon Sharp might be the best to put in that ring. What about them kids? What about the kids?
Mal
What do you mean?
Damaris
Shan Sharp is not that great of an interviewer.
Mal
I love sh.
Rory
Were they being raped in their booty?
Mal
Now, Skip, where's Bohemian Grove?
Damaris
That was anti black.
Julian
That's Shannon Sharp.
Mal
I love Shannon Sharp. But Ryan, stay. Don't go. Don't take your ass to Club Shay. Please don't.
Julian
Staying on the conspiracy train within the industry. Did you guys see this clip from this comedian, Nima Yamini? He was. He took this video pretty much saying that he was proposed Internet fame and it was. He was in a room with two Hollywood executives and the fellow comedian Matt Rife. And he said that they both had to suck off the executives in order to get the contract.
Mal
Nice.
Julian
And they had to suck them off simultaneously in that room. Yamini claims that he left the room and Matt stayed well in Matt state. And now you've seen where Matt's right career has gone. So now people are speculating that not only did Matt get his whole face redone, but he also de throated a couple executives in the process.
Rory
Again, I'm the conspiracy guy, but I don't believe this. I just.
Damaris
Well, why wouldn't you believe it?
Rory
It's Too trusting. Like, to just have two regular comics come into your office and you'd be like, yo, suck my dick to get this contract.
Julian
I just.
Rory
People that are.
Mal
Yeah, I don't go like that.
Rory
I'm not saying not that trusting.
Mal
Now, listen. I'm not saying that some executives don't.
Rory
Oh, it happens.
Mal
Hang that over people's heads.
Damaris
I heard of the whole me too move.
Mal
No, no, listen, listen. I get. I'm not saying. I'm just saying I don't think it happens like that.
Rory
Yes.
Mal
That's all I'm saying. I don't think it goes that way. The way he's saying it went. I don't think that's how it. That's how it goes. That's all I'm saying. It happens for sure. 100. I'm not that we. We don't have any room to. To debate that anymore. We know that it happens, but I just don't think it happens like that.
Damaris
So y'all think he a hater?
Mal
No, I just think that, you know, I think this is a moment and, you know, metaphor. People are. Metaphor is crazy. And people are just jumping in on for what Rory trying to.
Rory
It's the same way Cat Williams said him and Ludacris walked into the same office and. And Luda. Luda sucked the dick and Cat walked out.
Mal
Yeah, see that?
Rory
It was a metaphor to say that he was with going full industry.
Mal
So I saw fast. I saw fast seven. Luda ain't suck no dick to get that role.
Rory
Definitely didn't. And if he did, he did a bad, bad job.
Mal
We're not gonna put that on.
Rory
Head game is whack.
Mal
We're not putting that on.
Julian
They almost assume, like in. In if these are true.
Mal
True.
Julian
Let's carry this through. If it's true. Matt Rife went on to sell out an arena tour, which means he must give the firestop of all time. And then Luda Fast Furious series. You're making like 50 million a pop, Firehead. What if you're a guy and you got this proposal and you should. You just give trash head. Do you still get blessed with the career?
Rory
But that's another thing too. Like, look.
Mal
What Julian's mind.
Rory
No, I'm with him, though, because even as the exec, like, I'm pro. I'm asking two straight comedians to suck my dick. They're probably gonna be bad at it. Like, they don't suck dick. What? Like, what's. Where's the fun in that?
Damaris
Well, to be fair, they said that men Give the best head because y'all got stronger jaws than us.
Mal
Yeah, gay men.
Rory
Men that like sucking dick.
Damaris
No, all men have stronger jaws than women.
Mal
Okay. No, that statement is true.
Damaris
That's what I'm saying. They say that men are better at sucking dick whether they're gay or whatever. Whoever's sucking the dicks are better at sucking dick than women because of this jaw structure.
Julian
I mean, look at Matt's jaw.
Rory
He looks like he probably gets fired.
Julian
He probably took both execs at once. Left pocket, right pocket.
Mal
He looks like he said, that's it. More.
Rory
Give me more.
Mal
Who else has a dick in the.
Julian
Hallway sucking off the assistance.
Rory
I just don't know if an exec is going to put it all on the line to ask a kid that was like, just on Wild N Out to suck his dick to get a contract.
Mal
Yeah, that's like.
Rory
To what you were saying with the Me too shit. Of course. I think, like, execs sexually harass their secretaries. Like, that's just common, unfortunately, in the workplace. Drastically different. To ask a sort of known comedian to suck my dick to get a contract, like, that's crazy. Like, I just don't see that happening.
Mal
Yeah, I. This. This. I know we're in the Ex. What they calling us? The Expose Movement. Exposed Year. Year of Exposing. I don't know. Whatever they're calling it now.
Rory
Hell no.
Mal
I get it. But a lot of. Like I said, a lot of this that's gonna be coming out is like, y'all it up. Because there's real stories mixed in with a lot of this.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
And that's the up part.
Rory
Didn't we do our London show the same weekend as him?
Julian
No, wasn't it was Chappelle. I don't think Matt was out there with us.
Rory
His poster was, like, right next to ours in the.
Julian
Oh, yes, he was. Yes.
Rory
Ah, Accusations on us. How did we get that gig?
Mal
Ain't no accusations on us. We know how we got there.
Julian
They would have to bring in four execs.
Mal
We know how he got that. Now, y'all can go ask somebody. But uta, what they did for us.
Rory
To get that gig, I can guarantee you Rich Paul never asked Maul and I to do anything in a meeting or on a Zoom call.
Mal
Hell no, we don't. Ain't playing that game over here will die.
Rory
Except for when they were like, you guys should do three pods a week. And I said, you can suck my dick.
Julian
Reverse head.
Mal
Reverse head.
Rory
Suck my dick for that third episode.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Higher than a patreon tier. But yeah, I. I don't believe that. And also, like, if you left the room, how do you know what Matt did?
Mal
Just because he has a successful career now?
Rory
What if. What if he walked out of the room and then the execs were like, joking. You guys are comedians. Haha. Well, he left.
Damaris
Well, he left. He's not really down.
Rory
No, we don't want you to suck our dick. Here, here's some money. Like, let's.
Mal
Let's do the joking. Haha. Lol.
Julian
Here's three dates at msg, right?
Mal
Sold out already.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
And as someone that like, does believe that there are quote unquote machines that can push a button and get people to superstardom just for some head. And it's like, I'll get you the garden. Like, who is this guy? Yeah, I'd love to meet him.
Damaris
It's mad head around.
Julian
Honestly, I was gonna say like, his head worth the garden.
Rory
And like, is that guy gonna use his MSG favor just for, just for.
Julian
Like, for some guy head?
Rory
Yeah, guy head.
Julian
Not even just like a straight guy guy head.
Rory
And I feel like guy head. I feel like the exec that wants head from comedians to then push the button and get them sold out weeks in. MSG isn't like scouring through wild n out footage to find talent.
Mal
You know how trusting you got to be to put your dick in a mouth that doesn't really want to suck it?
Rory
You make a very fair point.
Mal
You know how crazy that is?
Rory
You make a fair point.
Mal
You want this role. Yo, give me head. And he's like, all right, you. And you actually back it out. I wish one of you would. I'll come out that office with two dicks in my hand. Wait, all you execs? Hell yeah.
Rory
So that means you'd put a dick in your mouth.
Julian
You're mad gay and you didn't get the role.
Mal
That. Imagine that though. But imagine, imagine when a be like, yo, he made me suck his dick. What? What you mean he made you suck?
Rory
It called raping.
Mal
That don't even sound without a gun. Nobody can't make you suck their dick without a gun, bro.
Damaris
Who can make you a man if you're a man? Please leave.
Mal
If you're a man. If you're a man. If you're a man and a dude says, yo, give me some head.
Rory
Oh, even with the gun, I don't think you can get me to do it.
Mal
I'm dead.
Damaris
If you want to die, you gotta kill me.
Rory
Because the moment, like, I would put My mouth on the dick. I would look up, be like, just pull the trigger.
Mal
At this point, bro, you gotta kill me.
Julian
Getting shot with a dick in your mouth is crazy.
Rory
Because what if the bullet goes through and I shoot my dickhead?
Mal
Hey, if I die with a dick in my mouth, y'all don't gotta cut in my feelings.
Damaris
No, I didn't plan on it.
Mal
Yeah. Y ain't got to come. Y'all could just stay home and just laugh like, yo, this mall went out crazy. He had a dick in his mouth. Like, what the.
Damaris
Cuz, you know they gotta leave you there until forensics come.
Mal
That's cra. And the niggas got the photos. You know for sure one of these podcast that don't like me gonna get a hand on them photos.
Rory
I'm gonna get a hand on them.
Mal
They can't wait.
Rory
That'll be a whole separate tier.
Mal
Patreon. My forensic crime scene.
Julian
Yeah. Dinner with Jay and then forensics with mall.
Mal
That's the. Look where his head is at. That's crazy. I wish somebody would try to force me to give them head, though.
Julian
Can we do that for a skit? That'd be fun.
Rory
I just.
Mal
That's why I don't believe I didn't.
Rory
See the blocking on that sketch.
Mal
Small hat.
Rory
How do you want to light that?
Mal
How do you want to light it? Where are we shooting at? Hey, Ral, where are we shooting that at? That.
Rory
And I already don't like my odds in this sketch because the. It's a duo, so there's only one roll left.
Mal
Yo, that's crazy.
Julian
Yeah, you got to be the.
Rory
Yeah, it would be my dick.
Mal
What?
Rory
Huh?
Damaris
Yo, gay.
Rory
You aren't gay.
Damaris
I've been letting y'all get y off, but y'all are gay. As against.
Mal
I'm against it. That make me gay.
Rory
And I'm the aggressor. I'm more of the masculine one.
Mal
But you're still gay, though. No.
Rory
You're good for sucking dick. I'm just getting my dick sucked.
Mal
How? I said I wouldn't do that. I would never do no like that. You crazy. Kill me. Give me death. I take death.
Julian
Grave heart over here.
Mal
Give me death. Kill me.
Julian
All right, mel Gibson.
Rory
Kill 100.
Mal
Give me death. Are you kidding me?
Rory
And that's not homophobic. Shouts everyone that can do it. It's just something that I'm just not a. I've never tried and failed. It's just something I know.
Mal
I.
Damaris
There's my real eaters out there who.
Julian
Well, could you imagine if you. If you were a guy, shout out to who?
Damaris
All my dick suckers. All the real eaters out there.
Mal
Why are you shouting out dick? Because he.
Damaris
He shouted them out first.
Mal
I don't think Rory did that.
Rory
I didn't, but shout out to.
Mal
We're not shouting out dick suckers.
Rory
You don't like to get your dick sucked by women?
Mal
Yes.
Damaris
I never said yes. Male and women.
Mal
Oh, I thought you. Oh, see, you didn't say that.
Damaris
Suckers. I just said all the people who suck dick.
Mal
No, you said.
Rory
I think it's funny that you keep doing this when you say that.
Mal
You said. Okay, well, you did say dick.
Julian
I feel like their hand sign should be different for who go to Rory.
Mal
That's sick.
Rory
No, I'm just doing a dance. That's.
Julian
That's good.
Mal
What was that dance? What was that dance called? You know what that's called?
Rory
Dick sucking dance.
Mal
The dick sucking dance.
Julian
It's a TikTok challenge.
Rory
I love immaturity.
Mal
Do we have another voicemail?
Rory
Oh, do we want to get into this Nelly topic or do that on Patreon?
Mal
Nelly ain't writing none of his raps. I don't want to get into nothing.
Rory
Nelly, I'm with you broke my heart once.
Mal
You ain't write your raps. What are we talking about?
Rory
That came and went. We owe Drake an apology because there was proof that Nelly didn't write anything, and we just moved on to the next day.
Mal
Well, because Nelly isn't currently active in putting out music, so that's why people didn't really.
Damaris
Was it proof that he didn't write anything or that he didn't write some of his hit songs?
Rory
Good majority. A great.
Julian
It was like most of country grammar, right?
Rory
Pretty much, yeah.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
Great album and a lot of Nellyville as well.
Mal
That kind of broke my heart. I'm gonna keep it a hundred. Oh, for me, it definitely did because Nelly was. He was like the. He was a. He was a star. So for to hear that he didn't write a lot of those. And then on. And then on the crew the. That was writing it. At least take care of the bros that wrote the yes. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, at least let them be well off and they. Anybody living life comfortable. Like, then it's like, okay, it. It was a collab because then we can call it a collaborative effort, but when you the only still lit and the homies are sitting down with Vlad telling their stories. And I feel.
Rory
I mean, he sort of tried because He. He put the Saint lunatics on like kind of immediately. Just the specific guy that was really writing most of it. I don't think he looked out for it the best. Like Murphy Lee was hot for a minute.
Mal
Yeah, he was.
Rory
He tried.
Mal
Yeah, I guess.
Rory
But just not giving you a man publishing that wrote everything is fucking nuts.
Mal
So that's what I'm speaking to. I'm like in that part of it. That's the wild part. But fuck it. Yes. Let's listen to what Nelly had to say. He was on the episode of the Shop. So let's hear what he was talking about. When I put out songs, I had to go against DMX. True.
Rory
Jay Z.
Mal
True.
Rory
Eminem, Lil Wayne.
Mal
True.
Rory
50 Cent.
Mal
True.
Rory
Loda.
Mal
True. Nah.
Rory
All of us are fighting.
Mal
Yeah. For one spot. So in from two, from 99 to like 2008, 10. It's the hardest era ever to give juicing up.
Rory
I mean, he didn't have to deal with Taylor Swift though.
Damaris
I mean, honestly, that's a fact.
Rory
No, he has a. He has a point though. I fully agree with Nelly here. That era, when it came to mainstream rap was the most difficult to compete.
Mal
No, Nelly was a bonafide star, a pop star for sure.
Rory
He left out Kanye. That was towards the end, but he still had to compete with Kanye.
Mal
Yeah, very true. But Nelly, without a doubt, his run, what he was able to do with his first few albums, legendary. We haven't seen many people come from rap and do what Nelly was able to do. Sell amount of records he was able to sell, have the. The hit records that he had. He even had a cool little country.
Rory
Record at one point with Tim McGraw.
Mal
Yeah, that was a beautiful song. Yeah.
Rory
And what's It Ride with Me? What was on Country Grammar. There's another country song in there. That's great.
Julian
The over and over was the Tim McGraw record.
Rory
That record.
Julian
That was a good song.
Rory
It's a great song.
Julian
I'm thinking about it over and over. That was a suit album.
Rory
Pull up rap albums in 1998. I think that was the year of which one? That was just crazy.
Julian
I mean. Here you go. Black Star Equamini 400° Volume 2, Capital.
Mal
Punishment, Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood and It's Dark and Hell is Hot.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
Yeah, this was a tough year.
Mal
Capital punishment, miseducation.
Rory
Yeah, 98 was a tough year, but obviously doesn't count as like an era. Whereas Nelly had to do that for like seven years. He had to compete with all those guys.
Mal
The locks.
Julian
Yeah, that that run, that early 2000s run was very difficult for hip hop.
Rory
I mean, I, I even like the.
Mal
How, you know, outside.
Julian
I was a consumer.
Mal
It was six.
Julian
No.
Mal
How were you in 98?
Rory
Six and a half.
Julian
98. I was. Yes. Six and a half, six and three quarters.
Mal
You were not a consumer in 98. Shut the up. See, that's what's wrong with this new generation.
Rory
He did his chores and I was a consumer.
Mal
No, you were not.
Julian
Okay, mall, but I still listen to music.
Mal
You were not listening to Capital Punishment.
Julian
I was outside.
Mal
You was not outside. What the are you talking about?
Julian
I'm gonna say that you won.
Damaris
Okay, I also was not. I was 4, but I also was not. Yeah, but also I was because my dad was a dj, but I know you weren't listening to that.
Mal
I was in high school, trying to avoid the bloods cutting my face every Friday.
Rory
I. I stole that. Pain is like my cousin's Volume 2, and he purchased it in like 99.
Mal
How old was you?
Rory
I was 8.
Julian
Where was 8?
Rory
I was listening to Volume 2 at 9 years old. I'm positive.
Mal
No.
Rory
Swear to God.
Mal
Hell no.
Rory
The first album, I. I didn't buy it. Obviously.
Mal
You didn't listen to volume 2 in 98. Maybe I wasn't listening to the 1.
Rory
To the B sides, but. But yeah, I was listening to volume two in 99. I'm. I'm positive because I've went through this with my older cousins.
Mal
Was I listening to rap at 9 years old?
Rory
Rap wasn't as mainstream when you were 9 as it was for me. Yeah, I was listening to more money, more problems on the radio when I was 7. It wasn't by choice, but it was mainstream music.
Mal
That's crazy.
Julian
The radio we had, I wasn't like.
Rory
Dissecting it, like, you know, oh, I really feel what he's saying. The more money you get.
Mal
Yeah, you couldn't relate to it.
Rory
No, but it was. It was part of my childhood.
Mal
I mean, I guess I was. I was listening to. I guess I was listening to rap at 7, 8, 9 years old. For sure. I was. I was listening to Ice Cube, NWA.
Rory
Like, you don't think a nine year old was listening to an Annie Sample.
Mal
Yeah, I get it. I just had to think about what was I doing at a nine. And I definitely was.
Rory
I wasn't like listening to a week ago and was like, damn, he snitched.
Damaris
Damn, snitched.
Rory
Like, no, I was listening to Hard Knock Life.
Mal
It's crazy to think that I've been listening to, like, a part of the culture this long.
Rory
Oh, and Money Cash Hoes we loved because it had so much cursing.
Damaris
Money Cash Hoes is still one of my favorite Jayz to this day.
Mal
Damn, y'all was so young, man.
Rory
Oh, money ain't a thing. I was definitely listening to at 9, for sure.
Julian
More money volume 3. I went amongst the kids with my mom.
Mal
That was everywhere.
Rory
That was my birthday presentation present. Like, I went. It was to get Volume three, and then I convinced my dad to get me. And there was.
Mal
For your birthday present, you got Volume three.
Rory
Yeah, but, like, I asked my mom to go get it.
Mal
That's sick.
Rory
And convinced my dad to get me. And there was X. Got two CDs.
Julian
Damn.
Mal
Your parents actually bought that music for you?
Julian
White Privilege.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Y'all had to sneak. I keep telling you, I had to sneak. Oh, they were the editor to listen to Doggy Style. The Doggy Style Snoop Source album. I had to sneak. I had to listen to that in my room on my Walkman with the volume on low so I could hear my mom if she was coming to my door. So my mind, this is Snoop I'm talking about.
Rory
I still, like, you know, you took your CDs and put them onto your itunes. Like, I still have in my itunes the edited version of Volume three. And there was X. They bought me the edited version. Now, speaking of Nelly, I had my cousin buy me the Country Grammar album Explicit, and my mom caught me listening to the second song. Like, you can find me. I've got jobs, some say. Others just smoke all day. My mom snapped the CD in half in two seconds. Snapped it in half. I was like, I have, like, trauma.
Mal
That was banging. Why you do that? That was thumping like he was getting it.
Rory
Oh, I was so disappointed.
Mal
That's crazy to think that our parents didn't want us to listen to this music. And now Snoop is, like, one of my mom's favorite people in the world.
Julian
But it's crazy because, like, if you listen to R and B, like, when I was young, my dad was always, like, playing, like, you know, the Isley Brothers and that kind of, like, the lyrics and that records are just as vulgar. They're just over. Like, they're just over. More peaceful.
Rory
Listen, I can totally understand it when you're a kid.
Mal
I could play Snoop's whole Doggy Style album right now and play one of these new little Young Drill album right now, and that will make the Doggy Style album sound like it's a peace treat.
Julian
Like a.
Rory
A peace treat.
Julian
Yeah. Sounds like a. I don't know, preschool.
Mal
It sounds like a. It would make it sound like a. A. A UN meeting.
Rory
Ain't no fun unless the homies have. Something's essentially about gang rape.
Mal
Yeah, I get it. But in the way he said it.
Rory
He was only 19.
Mal
Now these young will say, yo, let my man.
Rory
And these girls are like, bet that.
Mal
Well, that part too. But it's just a. It's just crazy to think that YouTube.
Rory
Had to earn it.
Mal
The. The music that had to put parental advisory on. On the. On the cd. Now the content of some of these new artists in their albums is like. Is way worse than that was like. I'm talking about. It's not even close.
Rory
I don't know Eminem. I shouldn't have been listening to Slim or Marshall Mathers LP when I was 11. I knew every. Every word.
Mal
Well, yeah, that was a different type of content for you young white kids. That was like.
Rory
We felt seen.
Mal
Yeah, that was y'all leader.
Rory
My mom.
Mal
Yeah, my mom.
Rory
Fucking make me clean my fucking room. It's my room.
Mal
Julian, just shut up. Just don't. Just shut up.
Julian
I'm not gonna go down that road. Yeah, just shut up. Just empowered. Every white kid that hated their mother.
Mal
He went just like this. As soon as I say Eminem is.
Damaris
Fist balled up like Arthur.
Mal
Like, yo, chill, bro. I understand you don't like Eminem, but.
Rory
Julian Kim is a beautiful R B love song, though.
Damaris
Yeah, Julian's Julian's point about R and B being, like, worse. Because I remember my dad was a dj. He was obsessed with rap. He played a lot of rap in the house. So I never. I never had to go buy the CDs. I always had them in my house. Like DMX growing up. DMX, Jay Z, they were my favorite artists because they were my dad's favorite artist. He played them so much, but he put me. I remember being obsessed with Britney Spears and he said, oh, no, you're not gonna worship, like, mid white woman. Like, here, here's Janet Jackson. You can go become obsessed with Janet Jackson. But at 7 years old, the shit that I was listening to, listening to Janet talk about, affected me way more than. And then there was X or fucking.
Rory
That's why you had a three album, 21.
Damaris
Probably like real shit. I had no business listening to that. And I don't think he. You know how when you hear singles from artists, you don't really pay attention to, like, the lyrics like that. He wasn't. I was listening to the B sides and the deep cuts. And I don't think he knew just how vulgar that fucking music was when.
Rory
It came to like sexually explicit lyrics. Puberty was way bigger of a factor when it came to me than listening to music about now. Misogyny, yeah, definitely was taught to me through music for sure. Like I was just trying to. Why was I thinking get money at 14? Like, she's just a hoe. She's 14. It's like, why am I viewing a woman that way at 14 years old?
Julian
I feel like music for me did last.
Rory
I have a minimum wage job and that woman is just discovering her body. Body.
Julian
South park was way more of an influence on me in a negative way in terms of like, you know, racial jokes and all that. South park was so much more influential.
Damaris
You are a walking south park extra.
Mal
Yeah, now that you say that, I can. I could see it.
Julian
I still love South Park. Like the new they've been putting. They signed like a billion dollar contract. They're still pumping out content, but it's. It's still great. But yeah, south park was big for me when I was a kid and I couldn't watch it at home for a while. But my older cousin, when we would go to their house, he was allowed to watch it. He's like eight years older than I was and I would just watch it with him and then just repeat every joke and it was just the most fucked up shit.
Mal
You are south park, baby.
Julian
It's great.
Mal
I see it.
Julian
Shitty walk.
Rory
Like you dressed as Mr. Hankey for Halloween.
Julian
That's crazy.
Mal
Because you do.
Julian
That's racist.
Rory
Why I didn't see you dressed as Chef is.
Julian
This is Mr. Hanky was a Christmas. Mr. Hanke was a piece of that lived.
Damaris
That lived in anti black world.
Julian
He lived in a Jewish kid's toilet.
Rory
Only black people. Why is this racist?
Julian
Rory said I look like a piece of in a racist way. Not like in a dress way.
Damaris
Oh.
Rory
I mean, if my racism directed just at Julian and him only not to a whole race of people, right?
Damaris
Oh, okay.
Mal
All right, cool. I mean, I didn't feel like you were talking about my people.
Rory
No.
Julian
Oh, okay, well, in that case that's fine.
Rory
Actually, people in general, I'm not talking about just one person. Mr. Hank, that piece of over there.
Damaris
Do you south park or Family Guy?
Julian
That's not even close.
Rory
South park, seriously?
Mal
I don't know, man. Yeah, they.
Damaris
They bugging.
Rory
I love Family Guy, but.
Mal
Yeah, but you answered that too quick. That's like with the marriage. When I said Brent when I Said Brent or. Or Bryson.
Julian
Bryson.
Mal
Yeah, the marriage answered that way too.
Damaris
You know what? I think I honestly was thinking about which one I would honestly. But music wise.
Rory
Yeah, it is like you honestly.
Mal
I respect that. But why we just can't be just. Just music.
Damaris
Oh, okay. I just thought if I go to ask you about two bad bitches. Your first mind. You ain't going to. Oh, who does the better hook?
Mal
Do they sing?
Rory
Yeah. What are we talking about?
Mal
Who wears a better bikini? Dreya. Like, what the fuck you want me to say? Like. But I was talking about Brent or Bryson as far as, like, their music, and you answered that too fast.
Damaris
If I say Rihanna or Beyonce, the first thing you gonna think is, damn. Like, who really gets me up and moving? Like, no, that wasn't what the. He was gonna.
Rory
If you said Rihanna or Beyonce. Their looks or who. I would honestly is not the first thing I'm thinking of. I'm thinking you're at all music.
Julian
Well, because they're also extremely talented.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
I feel like they've.
Damaris
Bryson ain't released the album in years.
Julian
Yeah. See Bryce still on tour. Oh, she's been disrespecting this. He's still on tour.
Damaris
I love. I picked Bryson and I love his new song. That Whatever She Wants song is literally engraved in my.
Mal
Oh, my. Every time I open my Instagram, one of you chicks got that song.
Rory
I'm excited for. For Bryson's come back.
Mal
Damn, I'm exc.
Damaris
Piss me off somehow she still get whatever she want. That was a soliloquy.
Mal
That wasn't a soliloquy. That was a trick trying to cover his PTSD of him losing a girl to a. That got more money than him. That's all.
Rory
Isn't he going through, like, a divorce? I don't think it's because I think.
Damaris
They might still be together. She posted on Tick Tock, dancing to the song and mouthing it.
Mal
The other day, he tore her ass.
Rory
Apart on that Keanu Laday album.
Mal
Oh, I thought she was about to go somewhere else. I was say, how do you know that?
Rory
That I'm sure he his wife, but that's not what I said.
Mal
I was like, well, how do you have that.
Rory
I think they have a child.
Mal
How do you have that information? Like, whoa.
Rory
No, his verse on Keanu the Days Quietly was one of my favorite verses last year. And he tore his wife apart on that.
Mal
That record.
Rory
That must have been an awkward, like, mixing session if she was there.
Damaris
I doubt it.
Mal
I doubt his new record is. Dope though.
Damaris
I love that.
Rory
Yeah, I'm excited, but I just.
Damaris
I'm excited for him. Everybody was talking about him because in the video, you know, when I first heard the song and then saw the video, he had, like, a ski mask on the entire video. There's strippers all over, and everybody just kind of had the same. Everybody was just like, this isn't you. Like, why are you doing this? Why are you acting like a drill rapper? And then. But the song, though, like, come on now. You never gonna go wrong on Instagram telling bitches they could get whatever they want. That's just the hook. Whatever she want.
Julian
That's fucking classic.
Damaris
Automatic. Classic.
Mal
Whatever she want. Women don't want to do shit. What y'all want to do? Like, what? As women, what do y'all want to do? Like, what is your. What is your goal every day? If you could do something every day of your life, what would it be?
Rory
They want children.
Julian
Sleep.
Damaris
It would literally sleep. Wake up, cook. Have sex with my husband. Sleep. Go out with my friends. Have lemon drop martinis. Sleep. Read a book.
Julian
Sounds awful.
Rory
Could you do that for more than a month?
Mal
No.
Julian
No.
Damaris
I could do that every day of my life.
Mal
No, you cannot.
Rory
You'd get bored.
Mal
You would fucking kill yourself in two months doing that every day.
Damaris
Let's do an experiment.
Rory
I can't. I can't go on a vacation for more than four days because I'm like, I want to go home.
Damaris
Let's try it out. No, literally.
Mal
Well, it depends on where you at. If I'm on a beach, I can stay.
Damaris
I'll go away, and I'll go do all of that for three months. Let's see if I can.
Mal
You'll get married in three months?
Julian
Yes.
Damaris
I figure it out now.
Julian
Go ahead. What you figure out? What's the sign?
Mal
What you need to get paid for. You don't know how to spend no money.
Damaris
No.
Rory
You have you married now. That's your responsibility, not us.
Damaris
See, that's not the experiment. Y'all don't want to put in on the experiment.
Mal
So you want to get paid to get fucked? To get fucked and sleep and cook.
Rory
It's called an escort.
Damaris
Escorts don't cook.
Julian
If you pay enough, you pay them to leave.
Mal
I'm like, here's 1500. Make me some chicken wings, fried rice. They'd be like, okay, I'll go get it.
Damaris
I was like, what escort service you using?
Julian
Atlanta.
Mal
Instagram. Fuck it.
Rory
That's a good one.
Mal
That's the best one. Instagram?
Rory
Yeah. Link in Bio.
Damaris
I think that that's so unfair, because if you guys had the opportunity to. Not. If you didn't have to work, what would you. If you didn't have to work, if money was not an option, what would you do?
Mal
Probably find something to work at.
Rory
Go be a fly on the wall studio.
Mal
You got to find something to do. You can't just spend your every day sleeping, eating. Sleeping, eating.
Damaris
I said reading. I said hanging out with my.
Mal
Whoa. Okay. Reading. Throw reading in there.
Damaris
Yes, Reading, cooking.
Rory
I would say do a lot of family.
Damaris
Hanging with my friends.
Rory
I would still. If I hit the lotto for a billion dollars, I would still podcast.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Probably not the same clip that we do, but I would definitely still podcast.
Damaris
You would still podcast if you hit the lotto for a billion dollars.
Rory
100.
Julian
I would.
Mal
I would.
Julian
That.
Rory
That's when that's, like, voicing my opinion on and talking to people.
Mal
That's when podcasting becomes really rid of the edit buttons.
Rory
Oh, no. We would. It'd be four red cameras right here. We'd look amazing.
Mal
This would be. This would look like the Wire. You kidding me?
Rory
I'm, like, even higher.
Mal
We'll get six red cameras and two drones in this.
Rory
Having a drone above you for a whole pod would be hilarious.
Mal
We gonna make. We gonna turn this into a motion.
Julian
An aerial angle is.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I would get James Cameron to direct with Rel.
Mal
Man. We'll be shooting at the. At the Taj Mahal, all kind of.
Damaris
Y'all wouldn't want to, like, go to Africa, maybe, like, help all of that schools. Go to Cuba, help build hospitals. Like, you wouldn't.
Mal
Let's do all of that. Let's sit down and talk about it.
Rory
I like the sentiment. I just don't know if I'm the person that should build the hospital hospitals.
Mal
Well, I wouldn't be.
Rory
I don't have much experience.
Mal
Yeah, I would. I would get with a company and try to facilitate that.
Rory
Well, yeah, I donate crossing.
Damaris
No, I don't need you laying cement.
Rory
My judgment is clearly not that good.
Damaris
But you would go there and you.
Rory
Would, you know, help put my faith in Wyclef.
Mal
Oh, yeah. Wycliffe got your money. He bought a new motorcycle with your.
Rory
Money and didn't buy pants.
Mal
No. Baby oil Speedos, yo.
Julian
Find out your money went to baby oil. And speed up. That would be so tight.
Mal
That's where it's going.
Rory
I'm gonna audit TLC.
Mal
The group.
Rory
I want my $10 back.
Mal
What?
Rory
10?
Mal
Like, the group Army?
Julian
That's a 3% of you talking.
Mal
Why?
Rory
Because they did a. A GoFundMe for their album and reached like a million dollars and never put it out.
Mal
Oh, okay. Yeah, I do remember that.
Damaris
No, maybe that. Maybe that wasn't enough.
Julian
Why don't we do that strategy for your next project? Start a GoFundMe.
Mal
Me, I don't know, because you would.
Julian
Put out an album, but you can't do.
Rory
Ask listeners for enough. As far as Patreon and merch. I want you to fun. So I'm gonna go take. I'm gonna go take a check from STEM for a recording budget, but ask money from the fans.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Have them match it.
Mal
Government does it all the time.
Rory
I wish I was a scumbag. I wish I had an scumbag because that is really a viable option. Like, I could go. Nobody would know if I really took a full recording budget of a quarter million dollars. And then people would have faith in me to do some type of crowdfunded thing for my album. I feel you not knowing that I just went and grabbed a quarter million for it. Yeah, I wish I was a scumbag. Meanwhile, I'm putting out affordable slides.
Mal
That's just not. I can't do shit.
Rory
My fleece is $80.
Mal
I can't take advantage of people. I just can't. I feel whack.
Julian
Like, it's only 3%.
Mal
I feel whack. It's just something internal. I'm just like that. That's corny. Yeah, like, taking advantage. It's just. It's. It's corny. That's why when I see people do it, I'm just like. And sometimes I'm like, damn, I wish I had some of that in me, like, to be like that. Because I do think you need a certain level of scumbagism to get to certain levels.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
But I. I just can't. Like, it's certain shit. I'm just like, nah, I can't do that, bro.
Julian
Bro.
Mal
Like, I've been offered to do some. Not suck no dick, but to do some crazy to come up on some money. And I'm just like, ah, that's corny. That's. First of all, it catches up to you.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Number one, you might get it off now, two, three years. Like, all right, it's cool. You gonna get an email?
Rory
It only. It only catches up to mid level scumbags. Elite scumbags are doing fine. It'll never catch up to them.
Mal
Yeah, but I'm not one of the elitists.
Rory
I. Well, I think, yeah, like maybe in when they die and go to hell with me. Whatever you think hell is, then it'll catch up with them. But it's only mid level scumbags where that karma really catches you in real time.
Mal
I was watching something the scientist was saying that life. Y'all know I always say this is a simulation. And he basically said this is pretty much he's on the side of this life experience being assimilation. Like somebody is controlling all of this.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
We're in somebody else's video game world. Yeah, Bill Gates maybe.
Rory
I wish I would scumbag enough to like create a disease because I have stock in a company that's going to create the vaccine.
Mal
Oh yeah, that's big scumbag.
Rory
Like I wish, I wish that's when.
Mal
Others come back look at you. Like, oh, he's on a roll. How he came up with that one.
Rory
Like I'm just spitballing here. Like I wish I could fly a plan into a building because I own half of Halliburton. Just a random just throwing out.
Julian
It's like what Pelosi did with her. Her husband who's a. He's in construction and he was getting all these covered contracts for these properties because she was feeding them the.
Rory
So like government.
Julian
Yeah, no, I was just like a. That's like a list.
Damaris
Like I don't think that's scumbag.
Julian
Yeah, it's illegal. Okay.
Damaris
Just because something is illegal doesn't make it. I don't think that scumbag is holding.
Julian
A very high office in the government and that's an illegal activity. Like that's illegal.
Rory
She put.
Julian
And then she got all good high.
Rory
Ground because like if I'm Hunter Biden, I'm doing everything under bodies. My dad is Joe Biden. Yeah. I'm gonna go to China and use his name.
Mal
Well, they.
Julian
They send him there to get him the out of the country because they knew how much of a danger he was here. That's how you know you're that big of a scumbag. If you look what their activity is here is children and like doing all these sacrifice ceremony. You're not even welcome there because that's how crazy you are. Yeah, you can't just chill and kids, bro, you gotta do heroin and like do all this other weird.
Rory
Yeah, the crackhead up the vibe at the child. Come on.
Julian
The kid. Why are you doing all the crack, yo?
Mal
No, how about just do the crack and not the kid?
Rory
Yeah, I'm with that.
Julian
No, because he's in the circle, dude. You're born into that.
Mal
I grew up a lot around a lot of crackheads and Biden access.
Rory
It was throwing an intervention for somebody when you children crazy.
Julian
But the intervention is. Put the pipe down only fuck kids. Change your ways.
Rory
This is getting out of hand, sir. Your behavior is affecting all of us.
Julian
Just the kids. Stop doing crap.
Rory
The rules that you have to be sober to walk into the kid party is to event stubber.
Mal
And if you try not to look, they force you to look.
Rory
And you can fight.
Mal
And I'm a boxer.
Rory
Who held down ryan Garcia?
Julian
Mitch McConnell.
Rory
Who was. Because I don't think the elites are in shape.
Mal
No, it was Rogan. Rogan held him down with one leg.
Rory
How did he get that Spotify contrast?
Mal
He stood on his back to stay there and look and enjoy.
Rory
Take this dmt.
Mal
Give it.
Julian
Give it.
Mal
Ryan Garcia better win this fight. I know that. All this shit he stirred up. If he go in there, Devin Haney, knock his ass out, man. Pack Ryan Garcia up, man. So he gotta win this fight.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
How did he leave the compound?
Mal
The Bahamian Grove?
Julian
Yeah, like, how did.
Rory
How did he leave?
Julian
How do you leave?
Mal
Grace called Uber Black.
Rory
Like, did he actually check out? Where'd he put his room key?
Mal
No, he just left. You never check out.
Julian
He nutted.
Mal
But.
Rory
When did they stop restraining you?
Mal
When it was over.
Rory
Okay, Go about your day.
Mal
Yeah, tell them. They won't believe you. You know that type of. Who's gonna believe you now?
Rory
We're in.
Damaris
Ma from the New Roma podcast.
Mal
I didn't say. See? No, I didn't say I don't believe him. I said I'm not sure if I believe him, but I'm not. I'm also not sure if I don't believe.
Rory
Like, they just let him go. Like, hey, there's a ride share on the other side of the compound.
Mal
Yeah, you got to call it. Uber there and meet them over there and they'll come pick you up.
Damaris
Not.
Mal
Not like the shuttle that leaves every three minutes. Imagine the shuttle leaving the Bahamian Grove. Everybody on the shuttle, quiet. After seeing what they just saw, it's like leaving Vegas. And you didn't hit.
Julian
No, you hit, but then you still get like that post nut clarity of like. That's. Damn. That was kind of fucked up.
Mal
It's terrible. Vegas is. Yo. Vegas is so somebody designed Vegas with the intent to destroy anybody that came to that city.
Damaris
I want to go to Vegas before I turn 30.
Mal
No, you don't. Trust me.
Julian
You want to go this month?
Rory
Yeah. It was like Tomorrow.
Mal
Trust me.
Damaris
Well, that was something I wanted to do. Obviously it's too late, but I do.
Mal
Want to go to Vegas. Listen to me.
Rory
You're not a Vegas person.
Mal
Listen to me. You're not. You do.
Damaris
You don't sleep. That's not for me.
Rory
I slept great.
Mal
Why are you not listening to me?
Damaris
Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Mal
You do not want to go to Las Vegas.
Damaris
Why not? I want to have a hangover night.
Mal
You do not. You can have a hangover in Manhattan.
Damaris
No, I mean like a hang. Like I want to, like, have a tiger in the bathroom.
Mal
No, you don't.
Julian
You get that in Manhattan.
Rory
Bronx Zoo, Harlem.
Mal
Ming. Ming. The tiger they took out of the project.
Rory
That's true. Yeah.
Mal
You know, I mean, people thought I was lying about that.
Julian
They took the tiger out of the projects.
Mal
Yeah. Ming.
Julian
Ming.
Rory
Racism.
Mal
Yeah. Somebody had had it since she was young, and then she obviously started feeding and got too big.
Rory
Always taking resources out the hood.
Damaris
Yeah, a tiger being the resource in the hood. I mean, they need books and computers for sure.
Rory
If you find another tiger and they have tiger babies, like, that's generational wealth.
Damaris
Who's setting up the type? Where are the tigers? Not in my apartment. Where are the tigers?
Mal
Him.
Rory
You. There's crazier things happening in the projects than two tigers. Just.
Julian
Yo, Rip. To Ming.
Damaris
Oh, he died?
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Damn, that's sad.
Mal
Had to. Had to kill Ming.
Julian
A part time taxi cab owner owned him.
Rory
Wait, they have like, memorial in, in St. Nick. Like, where is that? Is that in Hamilton Park?
Mal
It's in Ohio, right? No, Minnesota.
Rory
Nah, he from Harlem. That's crazy.
Damaris
So football back.
Rory
He was getting it in Ohio.
Mal
Well, you ain't bury him in the Bronx, man.
Damaris
But ma, as far as Vegas, like, so you say, I mean, you would never go because you don't drink, but I hear that, like, 48 hours in Vegas is enough.
Julian
Way too much.
Mal
48. That's saying that says something. That's saying something.
Julian
That's more than enough.
Mal
If 48 hours in the city, if they say your 48 hours in Vegas is enough, that means that 48 hours is going to feel like a week and a half.
Julian
Yeah, it does that.
Mal
Vegas is terrible. I'm telling you. Yo, you know what it is to walk to your room and you walk past people at like slot machines and, and, and poker tables and shit like that? You go upstairs, you get eight, nine hours of sleep, get dressed, go back down, and you still see them same niggas sitting there.
Julian
Yeah, it's not like the Casino Royale crowd. It's not like a James Bond movie. It's just sad. People that have like piss buckets.
Mal
Yeah. You feel like, yo, did I go to sleep? You don't even know what life like, yo, what the. You like. It's like everything is just on. Like a revolving door.
Julian
It's like windows. No.
Mal
Slots. All of this, like, what the. None of this shuts off. Like, it's these sounds, these lights. Everything is 24. 7 non stop. Like you don't. That's nowhere for you to want. You don't want to be there. Like, I'm from New York City. Being here, as soon as you land in New York, you feel the difference in the energy. Like you feel. You hear the cars, the buses, the trains, the. Like when you go on vacation and come back to New York. Like if you go some. If you go like to an island for like a week and then land in jfk, it's like, why. Why do I live in this?
Damaris
This is awful.
Rory
I'm a basic. I'm like, finally a deli.
Mal
Nah, hell no.
Rory
I can walk. I can walk to something.
Mal
I can make my own sandwich. When you leave, when you go somewhere where it's just quiet, serene, peaceful, you know, does it stink? It's like, oh man. And then you come back and you like, move out of the way. You fucking. I'm like, yo, dawg, why am I here?
Rory
I'm home.
Julian
Leave it in.
Mal
Why am I here?
Julian
It was an impression.
Mal
What is this?
Damaris
It's awful.
Rory
Finally a city with high values.
Mal
That's what Vegas feels like, really. And then you leave. If you a gambling person, you know the house always wins.
Julian
So nothing more sad.
Damaris
My own money in Vegas is insane.
Mal
Whoever's money you gambling, I'm gonna learn.
Rory
How to count cards.
Damaris
Okay, Ray man.
Mal
Must ain't seen casino.
Rory
I've seen Oceans 11. That was very accurate.
Mal
Very true.
Rory
Can just. I can just get a machine that takes all the power out.
Mal
I'm sure they have that on ebay somewhere. You can.
Rory
The house is 75 year old in.
Damaris
A swat, but I feel like if you are. I feel like gambling is kind of like taking a multiple choice test. You gotta just use common sense. Like don't use your brain so much. Use common sense.
Mal
I see the type of woman Damaris is going to be because when you.
Damaris
Break it down, just know when to get the people.
Rory
You are selling some right now to.
Mal
Be a pit boss.
Rory
What you're saying is.
Damaris
No, but you should know when to get the up because they're gonna let you win a little bit so that they.
Mal
No, they're not.
Julian
You win, then he'll knock it or let you win. There's no grace.
Mal
Put it like this. If you go sit down right now at a poker table, first time ever playing poker, and you hit for 20 grand, right? Firsthand hit. 20 grand, the house. Don't kick the nigga two tables from you just lost a hundred grand and he still did.
Rory
They give a.
Mal
About that punk ass 20 grand they just gave you. They don't give a fuck about that shit. But the odds of that happening are.
Rory
Not a multiple choice test.
Mal
37 million to one. Like, that's not gonna happen. You're not gonna win.
Rory
Yeah. On a Scantron, I have a in four.
Damaris
Like, I could hit. I could hit Vegas on blackjack for a quick little 5k and end it.
Mal
But how much are you spending, though, to get hit that five?
Julian
No, in Damaris's scenario, it's the one hand. She's.
Damaris
No, not the one hand.
Mal
No.
Damaris
I play blackjack, so probably. I'll probably spend like a thousand, leave with 5,000. I made a 4k, come up, had a fun weekend.
Rory
We landed in Vegas and I was like, I have to go to Caesars and play blackjack. Put 200 worth of chips. Within five minutes, it was gone. I was like, that was the dumbest thing I've ever done.
Damaris
Yeah, that was stupid.
Mal
It's. Yo, I'm telling you that.
Rory
To say that I played blackjack and Caesars was not worth that 200.
Damaris
I wouldn't go to Caesars. I'd go to one of the little ones in a cut.
Mal
You know, those are the worst ones.
Julian
Yeah, yeah.
Mal
Those are the ones with the. The dice is fake. Them ain't even sanctioned.
Rory
And that's where. And that's where 20k will really affect them. So they're not letting you win.
Mal
Like, yeah, you not walking out. You like, y'all just hit for 20K. They're like, no, we hit for 20K and they got.
Rory
They got people outside if you do win to rob, you just.
Mal
Are you kidding me? The off the.
Rory
Off the pit boss, like, yo, he walking out now with 20k off brand.
Mal
Casinos off the Strip, if you want to, and see what happens. Man, hell no. But I do like driving into Vegas from la, though. That is a nice drive.
Rory
It's a fun drive. Yeah.
Mal
At night. Got to do that night.
Damaris
How long is it? Like two hours?
Rory
Three?
Mal
A little almost. Closer to three. Closer to three. But I like it because it's like, it reminds you those movies where you see people like in the desert and they're driving and they see like a broke down gas station and like it's really that type of shit on the side of the road.
Damaris
You think that that's like cool and.
Mal
Like if you to actually see it, I think it's, it's like, oh shit. Like these are real. Like this is really broken down gas stations on the side of it. We don't see that going down the turnpike to fucking Philly. And when there's no broken down gas stations on the turnpike, they all work.
Rory
Yeah, when we drove, we stopped in like Barstow, whatever it's called. And it's 115 degrees and you're at a awful gas station. Yeah, that's a fun experience. That's better than 200 at Caesars.
Mal
Now I'm not gonna lie, if you start seeing that gas tank, you like, nigga, hold on. Cause the next gas, the next, the next gas station ain't for another 60 something miles. So you better make sure that gas tank before you leave LA is to the brim full. Because it gets scary. Because you want to just a straight road and it's like, bro, it's nothing out here.
Rory
What's also funny is like they have a bunch of billboards and the closer you get to Vegas, they have like random hotels that are also casinos. You have a actual problem if you're driving to Vegas but have such an impulse to gamble. You stop at one of the hotels.
Julian
No catch a quick lick. Yeah, quick lick, quick leg, get back.
Rory
On the road, you have an issue.
Mal
It was a, it was a, it was, it's a little motel in Vegas. Like they got actual slot machines in the room.
Julian
Room that's sick. In the room is sick.
Rory
And probably no condoms.
Mal
Nah, no condoms in your room. A slot machine. You know how crazy that is?
Rory
They have slot machines in the airport.
Damaris
Okay, now, now here is where we say they. Yeah, people are mentally ill. They are taking advantage of people's mental illness in Mall's voice.
Mal
But they turn people mentally ill because if you. It's a lot of documentaries and stories about people that like a lot of the homeless population in Vegas are people that went there on vacation and just lost everything.
Rory
Sounds about right.
Mal
Like literally gambled their life savings, had to call their wife, tell their wife. Wife, you know, obviously hung up, don't want to hear him divorce, whatever. The kids, don't fuck with them and they have no money to leave. They just end up living on the Streets of Las Vegas. But they went there on vacation like they had money. They just sat at the table and just decided, like, it, man, I'm just tap into this life savings and try to hit. To get this money back, I need to get this 50 grand back. When you lose that, that last 50 grand and you got to call wifey, I don't think you should go home.
Rory
It's such an interesting concept I have, like, if I've saved 50k in a savings to be like, I'm gonna go gamble this.
Mal
But it happened. You know, that happens.
Rory
It's happening right now as we're saying.
Mal
100.
Rory
Yeah, it's just a.
Mal
But that's why I say that's the Vegas is just the idea. The concept of that city is insane to me. It's insane. That was designed to suck you dry in other ways. No pun intended, firehead.
Damaris
Well, I want to go. So one of y'all got all of that.
Mal
This. See you one of them. I know the type of kid you was, Damaris. You got to touch the stove. You got to touch the stove and see that blister on your palm to know never to do that again.
Rory
That's the type of kid they said crack is whack. And Damaris was like, is it?
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Is it?
Rory
Let me find out for myself.
Mal
Look, what's whack about it? That's who. Damaris. What's whack about it? Go ahead and smoke it. Fire it up.
Rory
Nancy Reagan. Nancy Reagan. You whack?
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Go ahead and so it must be cool.
Mal
Damaris saw the brains on the brains on drug commercial with the egg in the pan. She was like, that's how I cook mine. Over easy.
Rory
Yeah. I consider myself Sunnyside.
Damaris
I just think it's something that everybody should do. So I'm gonna do it.
Mal
Is it life saving? Smoke crack? No, I would go to Vegas.
Julian
Go to Vegas and smoke crack.
Mal
I just stay out of the pools.
Damaris
Oh, God, no. I don't do. And I. I hear they're like, heated.
Julian
You want to do Drez?
Rory
No, we watch.
Mal
Stay out of the pools.
Rory
We watch them put on full scuba gear after one of the day parties to go clean the pool. Like. No, full head to toe, like scuba stinky.
Julian
Scrape the come off the bottom of the pool.
Mal
Because people just putting on bikinis going down, ain't washing their ass.
Rory
We watched someone try to eat pussy.
Mal
Took his shit and then went right back to the pool. And you in there talking about, I fucking love Vegas. You got all that shit in your Mouth now. Go ahead. Go upstairs, shitty mouth.
Rory
And they let us chill for a while instead of kicking us out to watch, like, the whole pool cleaning thing. I thought they put sand at the bottom of the pool. Like, I thought it was an aesthetic. They started to clean. I was like, oh, that's dirt. That's a regular pool bottom. Yeah, I thought it was real sand.
Mal
No, it's.
Rory
It was dirt.
Mal
When you see those day parties, like, empty out and you see the pool, it's insane, the shit that's in there.
Damaris
Like, I'm never getting in a pool for a day party, though. I'll sit on the side in a little cabana with, like, my little champagne or whatever. I'm not getting in the pool in a pool party. That shit is gross.
Rory
He was doing laughs at the Clevelander in Miami. Don't say that.
Damaris
Never in my life.
Mal
Doing laps.
Damaris
Doing laps.
Julian
Laps.
Mal
Sick at the Clevelander.
Rory
I'm a hoe. I put my feet in the water at the Clevelander.
Mal
You definitely had your T shirt on in the pool.
Julian
Yeah, Roy left his socks on and shirt.
Damaris
I think I put my feet in at the merch. Laundry on.
Mal
He had his merch on.
Rory
Any moments of the Clevelander? Just a fly on the wall.
Damaris
Just merch rolled. And the T shirts.
Rory
Was sleeves rolled up with a pack of Marlboros.
Mal
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's his west side Story swagger.
Julian
Public pools are gross. Just capacity. Not just the. The club pools. I just never got behind the shared communal water thing.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Chlorine.
Mal
Nah.
Damaris
But you shower at the gym.
Mal
Nah.
Julian
What is it? Yeah, it's a shower.
Mal
As long as you got flip flops on.
Julian
Yes, I do. People. People are so stupid. And they also just, like, project this, like, version of themselves. Like, who's like, oh, his towels. He brings them on the train. They get dusty and dirty on the train. No, idiot. I walk to and from the gym. It's 10 minutes from my apartment. They never go underground, if that's your rule of cleanliness.
Rory
You do know that, Jim.
Damaris
Jim. Yes, they wash them, but they still hold the bacteria from everybody else using them in the gym.
Julian
No, they don't.
Mal
I wouldn't know.
Rory
I'm convinced.
Julian
Well, I haven't had a bacterial infection of any sign of any kind.
Rory
Before we get to the next voicemail, what was the woman's name from the original voicemail?
Mal
Michelle.
Rory
I want Michelle to call back to tell us about that wild threesome because she said it was a crazy story.
Mal
Yeah, Michelle, you gotta call back and give us that threesome, man. Give us that threesome.
Julian
I hope it happened not in Chicago, unlike somewhere else.
Rory
We should title this episode. Michelle, tell us about your three something.
Julian
I live there. I'm just saying I hope it happened on her travels.
Rory
I mean, a threesome in Chicago is probably fun.
Damaris
I'd have a threesome in Chicago.
Mal
I never listen, man. Schoolboy Q album is still really good. Good.
Rory
I'd have a threesome in any.
Damaris
A week later. It's still really good. Like it's aging well.
Mal
Well, you know, a lot of this is the shelf life on a lot of these is two days, which is.
Rory
Crazy that we have to say that. I'm still listening a week later.
Mal
Yeah, still listening.
Rory
Same.
Mal
Still sounds good.
Rory
Yeah, like a lot. I hope he stops by.
Damaris
What's your guys favorite song?
Mal
I mean, with Jazzy is dope.
Damaris
You love Jazzy.
Mal
I love Jazzy.
Rory
It was one of the first records he put out. But Blue Slides is still one of my favorite joints that. That was on repeat the most. I feel like the. Thank you joint is fire. I love that beat switch. But no, it's still in rotation at my house.
Mal
Shout out to Q, man. Q. Really, it's. It's dope to see, like, dudes that you didn't think would have like a long recording career or like a successful recording career, like, stand the test of time and continue to put out dope shit. And Q is one of those artists for me. Like, I don't think Schoolboy has a whack album. He's like, his projects are really good projects. This one is really good still. Like I said, I'm listening. I like it more and more the more I hear it. I think this is some of his best rapping by far. I think he's. This is his. This is his best rapping. Best rapping. I haven't heard Q rap better than this.
Rory
Agreed. We have one more voicemail or.
Julian
Yeah, this is the one I was gonna play at the beginning of the episode.
Michelle
Hey, y'all, let a pod. My name is Queenie. I'm from California. I just need a little bit of advice. So recently me and my best friend have gotten into it because I told her that I'm tired of hearing about her relationship problems. Now, mind you, she's been on and off with the same guy for, I want to say, like four or five years, but he's never put a title on their relationship. So he's had whole relationships on her and fucked other people. She's caught him fucking other people and she Continues to go back. So recently she was trying to tell me about a problem that they were having, and she was crying about it. And I was like, like, I'm kind of tired of hearing about it because you gonna be crying on the phone to me. And then next week when he call you so he can, you know, I'm saying fuck again. You gonna be right back over there. So am I being a bad friend for telling her I'm done hearing about it, or should I, like, give her some grace? Because, you know, we've all been a sucker for somebody. Just let me know. Because some of my friends are saying that I'm being a bad friend, while others are saying basically like, that it's key for me to also protect my pe. So just let me know what y'all think again. Love the pod. Hey, Damaris, with your beautiful ass.
Damaris
Hi, boo.
Michelle
I'll see y'all later.
Rory
No, I think setting boundaries after a pattern like that is. Is fine. I would do the same thing. Yeah.
Mal
As friends, I think it's important to have that.
Rory
She gave a lot of chances.
Mal
Have that moment. Like, I want my homeboys to tell me, like, yo, bro, you tripping. Like, leave that girl alone. Like, stop calling her. It's over. Move on. You need your homies to say that sometimes.
Rory
And you're an adult, so you can make whatever decision you want to, but I have the right to say, don't talk to me about it because this is getting old. And I've already told you it's not good for you. So don't come to me. Don't ask for my advice, and continue not to take it.
Mal
Right?
Rory
Yeah. I don't think that's wrong at all.
Damaris
I've definitely been there where I had a friend, multiple friends who just, like, been with the wrong. And it's just like, all right, girl. Like, this is getting old. What I will say is, as I've gotten older.
Mal
You're 29.
Damaris
No, but as I've got this, I don't know if you know, but we've been getting played by since we were, like, 12. So, like, it's been a while.
Mal
Yo, getting played by since she was 12 is crazy.
Julian
Sounds statutory.
Mal
You know how crazy that is?
Damaris
It's been dirt since, like, dirt.
Mal
Like, so supposed to be a stand up at 12 years old. He's supposed to have it all figured out. Like, you don't respect.
Julian
What are you expecting to be?
Rory
Yeah, like, what did he do?
Mal
You know, he didn't bring.
Julian
Didn't bring her a juice box.
Mal
Yeah, he didn't bring in no cheese puffs that day.
Damaris
Yo bought another girl a carnation on Valentine's Day.
Julian
Like, swag.
Mal
You still ain't recovered from that heartbreak.
Julian
A carnation.
Damaris
It's just we've been dealing with men for a long time, so you be. You know, shit gets old after a while. But to my point, if you're not comfortable giving her advice anymore because she doesn't listen to the advice, I get that. But if you've already told her how you feel, you've told her you've had that conversation. Like, yo, you being an idiot. He's never gonna love you. He's never gonna do this. He's never gonna act right. If you've had that conversation already and she still wants to, like, keep touching the stove like Mal said, then at this point, just be there just to listen to her vent. That's what I would do. Like, listen to her vent. Be there for your friend and her mental health, because you're not gonna change her mind. She's not. Like, when she.
Mal
Let me ask you something. Who have you had better relationships with, men or women?
Damaris
What do you mean?
Mal
Like, sexual relationship.
Damaris
The girl asked for advice.
Mal
No, but I'm just. I'm trying to. I'm trying to see something here. What do you mean? Like, who have you had. When you were dating, like, women versus dating men? Like, who did you have better experiences with, men or women?
Damaris
I don't. That's not a fair comparison because I don't date women in the same capacity I date men. I don't give women the full Damaris experience to. Let me get it.
Mal
Okay, that's fair.
Damaris
But, yeah, don't. Don't skip out on your friends. Honestly, just. I know it can get old. I know it can get annoying as fuck. But, like, just.
Mal
Man, fuck that. Tell your friend. Listen, you gonna keep hitting your head, bumping your head with this dumb ass, dude, you gonna run yourself into a fucking situation you can't get yourself out of. Just cut your losses short now and move on.
Damaris
Yes, you can tell her that. She's not gonna do that.
Rory
You're being an enable.
Julian
No.
Damaris
You're not being an assemblage.
Mal
No. But as a friend, let me tell you firsthand, as a friend, would you. As long as you get it off and say that you said it. Whether they take that advice and take heed to it or not, that ain't on.
Damaris
But y'all aren't. Listen, she said she did that already.
Mal
Okay? So then shut the fuck up. What's her name?
Julian
Queenie.
Mal
Queenie. That's it.
Rory
To that point is why I think she should leave it alone. She was there multiple times for her. It's getting old at this point. Back to the gambling shit. If somebody. If my friend loses 50 grand of his life savings, I'll be there for him and he gets his money back up, up and goes back to the casino, I'll still be there for him. And really tell him, yo, you are up. The third time he goes once he has his money again, I'm not. Don't talk to me.
Damaris
Yeah, I can say don't.
Mal
Just.
Damaris
I would say don't talk to me.
Rory
No, I'm not here to support you because you continue to go blow your life savings, Rory.
Damaris
That's not fair. Because you have female friends who have gone back to over and over and over and over and over again. And every time I want to vent to you about it, you'll listen, you'll tell me the truth, you'll tell me about myself, but you listen.
Mal
Yeah, but it's not how the marriage said. You have female friends that go back to. She raised her head and then say, but then I'll listen. I'll come back to you.
Damaris
I'm not the only one.
Rory
But, but like when you. When you'll vent and I'm. I'm not telling you business. Like y'all will be separated and he might someone else. This guy is just constantly cheating on this girl non stop. That's not anything you vented to me about. You've been on breaks, ups and downs, and like somebody you're trying to see a whole long term relationship with. This guy's just other every day way different. You've never vented to me in that way.
Damaris
No, because it never would.
Rory
If the guy he was talking about was just. While y'all were in a committed relationship. Damaris, I would tell you, leave that and stop talking to me about this. Leave like it's done.
Damaris
I mean, I don't. I get to a point, I've gotten to a point where it's just like, yo, shorty, if that's what you want to deal with, you must like that. Then that's the. And I'll say that like when you're venting like, well, you must like it because you won't leave one day you'll get tired of it. Like, like. And that's that. And then eventually the friend will probably stop talking to you about it because you're making her feel stupid. But I never want a Man, to be able to isolate my friends away from me. Because once he has you like that, then you're. You're cooked. Once you can't vent to your friends or your family and everybody's tired of you. Now you alone and this nigga is all that you have. I never want to put my friends in that predicament. So it might be tough for me, like, watching her be a dumb bitch over and over and over again and telling her she's being a dumb bitch over and over and over again.
Rory
But, but, but I mean, if she want to go vent about work, to her, great. I was going to say don't vent about this guy.
Julian
Compartmentalize it.
Rory
Come about anything else in your life.
Julian
I gave you my piece on that. Don't come to me with that topic. I'll talk to you about the rest of your life because we're still friends. Leave all that to someone else that wants to listen.
Mal
And if your friend keep asking you for advice on relationships and you keep giving them advice and they're not listening, they don't want your advice.
Rory
Some people just want to vent. Yeah.
Damaris
Some people just want to.
Julian
Well, they just want to hear what they should do and then know that it's just like actively. Still not. They're like, oh, I should.
Mal
Yeah, but I can't deal with that.
Julian
I have friends cut a couple people out.
Damaris
That's not really. But people are never really asking for advice when it comes to love. They're. They're looking for you to give them permission to do what they want to do.
Rory
Anyway, after the third venting to. To Queenie, at that point, she just want to hear herself talk. Like, there's not much advice that you could even offer if somebody is continually cheating on you. Like, we. This isn't going to be some long, deep conversation after the third time you called him cheating.
Mal
All right?
Rory
This is a five minute conversation. Like, hey, it's time to move on.
Mal
Well, Queenie, hopefully we gave you some. Some solid advice. Not like you going take it. But.
Damaris
I mean, no, but Queenie isn't the one.
Mal
No, I'm saying she's probably, you know, she just wants to hear our thoughts on it.
Rory
But yeah, and if you care about your friend, that is. That could be a kick in the ass to her. Like, all right, my friend won't even talk to me about this whole shit. Like, it must be bad now.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
So. Yeah.
Mal
Well, Queenie, if y'all not doing anything, March 23rd, come on down to Washington D.C. we'll be at The Howard Theater. We got plenty more advice for you. It'll be a good time. Tickets available now newroarimal.com and we'll see everybody down there soon.
Rory
Yep.
Mal
What you got going on this weekend? Fly on the Wall?
Rory
I don't know. Yeah, I don't think I have anything.
Mal
I think I'm gonna go see the One Love Movie. Still haven't seen it yet.
Damaris
You always say you can go see a movie and never go see it.
Mal
But I know I've been doing pretty good, though. Like, I've. I've gone to see most of the movies that I wanted to see, but I haven't gone to see the Bob Marley movie. I think I'm gonna go see it this weekend. Know, maybe.
Rory
Maybe we all go together and, like, do it at a theater that's by your new crib. And then after we just like, oh, horrible idea. We all chill.
Mal
Actually, there's no theater. There's no theaters.
Damaris
You already.
Julian
Oh, no, it's in the building.
Damaris
I was about to say the other one was across the street.
Mal
Building.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
Do I live at. In the Time Warner building?
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
No, I do not. Yeah, I'm go see that this weekend.
Rory
Or I could bring my projector to your new crib and we could just. Just find, like, an illegal download and watch it all together or.
Damaris
This is sad.
Mal
A terrible idea.
Julian
I watched American Fiction and Past Lives earlier this week, and they are both fantastic films. Both American Fiction.
Mal
What's that about?
Julian
It's the. It's. You guys would love it. It's with. Damn, what's his name? It's actually gonna bother me. Jesse Jeffrey Wright. Jeffrey Wright.
Mal
Oh, that's one of my favorite actors.
Julian
He's incredible. The. The whole.
Mal
Oh, is this the one where he wrote the movie?
Julian
The book he wrote? Like, he's a. He's a scholar, writer, author. But none of his was selling. And the that was selling is like the black experience through, you know, the. That white people want to see. Like, oh, I made it out the ghetto. It's like that kind of.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
So Issa Rae plays this other author who wrote one of those kind of books.
Mal
It's like, of course you do.
Julian
You know, Tyrone made it out the trap, and now he's, you know, he's freedom writers. It's like one of those. So then. So that he, as a joke, like, like, comes up with a pseudonym and writes one of those books, and it immediately becomes, like, a prized piece. And it's. It's a really, really well done film. But you Guys should watch it. It's my favorite of the year, to be honest. It's really great. And check that out. Covers on a lot of cool. And then Past Lives is a beautiful love story. I cried before going to bed last night, so that was fun.
Mal
Wait. What? Did you call your mom?
Rory
No, she's asleep in the morning. He did, though.
Mal
Definitely the mom. I cried last night.
Julian
You guys should see it takes place in New York. It's a lot. A lot of good shots.
Mal
Oh, Jules, why did you cry?
Rory
There we go.
Mal
What happened? Do you need your blankie?
Rory
You know he has his blankie.
Mal
Oh, he has his blankie.
Rory
Yeah. Mom doesn't have.
Mal
Oh, man. Yeah, Mom. Mom doesn't have a blankie, but Jules does.
Julian
D. Yes.
Mal
I'm sorry.
Julian
All right, today, 24 films. Really well done. Great love story. It's about this, like, Korean.
Mal
All right. Can you tell me why you cried, though? You don't tell me the movie.
Julian
See the ending.
Mal
Okay. All right, cool.
Julian
I don't want to spoil it, because.
Mal
No, yeah. Did you see this? You went to the theater to see this?
Julian
No. This is on Amazon Prime.
Mal
Okay, got you copy. All right.
Julian
Yeah. I was at the crib.
Mal
I watched that. I might watch that and then not cry.
Rory
I'm starting to notice the pattern with you. All Asian casts make you cry.
Damaris
Yeah, he loves that.
Julian
They write good stuff. What do you mean, all Asian? Oh, everything. Everywhere.
Rory
Yeah. Anytime. There's just a lot of. They're good writers on the cast. Julian's gonna cry.
Julian
That's a weird.
Rory
Like, is it a fact, though? Point out the lie.
Mal
All Asian movies make Julia cry.
Julian
Makes no sense.
Mal
That's insane. That would be insane. If you put on a movie and it's just age people, your man just start crying. You're like, yo, why you cry?
Damaris
I already know this one's gonna.
Julian
It's like Red Dragon.
Mal
What? You crying?
Julian
Jet Li film.
Rory
I was gonna go. I was gonna go with Last Samurai with Asian comic Rush Hour.
Mal
What's the one where he was a dog and they had, like, a collar on Jet Li?
Julian
What.
Mal
What movie was that? Was DMX in that one with him?
Rory
Oh, Cradle to the Grave.
Julian
Unleashed.
Mal
Unleashed the Grave is a really good movie, though.
Rory
It is a great movie. First of all, Jet Li having a collar on. Movie called Unleashed is hilarious.
Mal
Julian definitely cried watching Unleashed.
Damaris
Did you cry on Crazy Witch Asians?
Julian
No, no.
Mal
Karate Kid. He definitely cried. It was only one Asian. The Karate Kid, Mr. Mc Yagi. That was it.
Damaris
Yo.
Rory
Wax on scene. So powerful.
Mal
Yo, yo. He was on the beach practicing his crane kick. Get the out of here. That crane kick could get you knocked the out in 20, 24. You try that right now, Rory. See what happened.
Julian
A slow wind kick.
Mal
Imagine. Imagine a do this now. He going to fight you. I'm like, man, I see. I saw the movie. I know what's going to happen. I'mma you up soon as you throw that slow ass.
Rory
Crackheads love that move. And it's effective for them.
Mal
Them crackheads?
Rory
Crackheads definitely do this before they're gonna fight.
Julian
Wouldn't you just sweep the leg? Also, look at his arms aren't in a defensive stance. Like, he's so exposed.
Rory
So exposed.
Mal
He's so. This was.
Rory
His chin is so available.
Mal
Yo. This movie is proof that back in the 80s you could have wrote anything and it was a hit. Like, who thought like, we're gonna do the crane kick and that's gonna be like the way he wins the tournament. And that crane kick could get your jaw broke.
Damaris
Mal, did you cry on the Pursuit of Happiness movie?
Mal
All right, let me be honest.
Julian
All right, here we go.
Mal
Let me be honest.
Julian
Takes Will Smith for you to cry.
Mal
I didn't cry. I didn't cry. But I felt something in my nose and eye area right here.
Damaris
Okay.
Mal
I felt something.
Rory
It made me resent women more.
Julian
Yeah, fuck bitches.
Mal
How did you get that from that movie?
Rory
That mom was a piece of shit?
Damaris
Or was she a stressed out woman.
Rory
Overworked and her husband so she should abandon her family?
Mal
She didn't have a soft life wife, you know, she shouldn't have been. Her family only.
Rory
Only women bodies.
Mal
Drink a latte.
Rory
Only women will be forgiven for abandoning their family and forcing them to live in a public bathroom. Only women could get away.
Damaris
Did not forgive her.
Mal
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Rory
Get understanding.
Damaris
She was a shitty.
Rory
She was a shitty person. Yes.
Damaris
She will give men understanding all the time.
Rory
Abandoning your children. You're a shitty person. First ballot hall of Famer. Yeah, there's no debate here, of course.
Damaris
But what I'm saying is you can't.
Mal
Be that girl if you're not that mom.
Damaris
I can't.
Rory
I hate you so much.
Julian
That's a thing people say.
Damaris
No, it's not real.
Mal
It sounds like something girls would say. You can't be that girl if you're not that mom.
Julian
Some single mother would have is like a bumper sticker.
Mal
Yeah, like get the.
Damaris
I was just saying that extremely poor people have different ways of surviving and trying to stay afloat. So that's all I'm saying, I'm not sticking up for her or anybody. Yeah, the dad had it, but they were extremely.
Mal
Dad had a very, very different way of dealing with that.
Rory
Yeah, it's not like she. She left home to go get some money to then come back. She just left.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
You know, Rory, out of this whole entire beautiful movie and all the things that happen, you hating the mom is just like, that's being the one thing that you remember out of the whole movie.
Rory
Is it not a significant part of the.
Damaris
No, it's not. It's literally not a significant part of the movie. I think she left within the first 20 minutes.
Mal
Minutes.
Rory
He.
Mal
Yeah, I mean, it's still a significant problem.
Rory
He stops selling computers.
Mal
And it was the dad and the son together because the mom left him.
Julian
He didn't have a pen or paper.
Rory
It actually sets up the entire movie because now he's trying to run around and do daycare because she's like. She left.
Mal
He got to go sleep in the, you know, shelter and bathroom, wash clothes in the sink.
Damaris
You know, they would have still been doing all that had she stayed. They just would have been doing it together.
Mal
And she was like a housekeeper, wasn't she? Like a hotel.
Damaris
Hotel, yeah, I think she was like a housekeeper.
Mal
She couldn't get us a discount at the hotel so we could go.
Damaris
They were poor.
Mal
Poor.
Damaris
They still would have been able to afford that hotel.
Mal
If you work there, I'm guessing you.
Rory
Can get a room and, you know, when.
Mal
If she was housekeepers, yeah, you get a discount.
Damaris
If you work, you get a discount. But they still probably wouldn't have been able to afford it with the discount.
Rory
Is what I'm saying.
Mal
I see what you're saying.
Rory
If she stayed, she still would have given them shit. Like, you weren't working. You were at a baseball game. You was at the Giants game. I could see it.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
It was a beautiful movie.
Mal
Great movie. I didn't cry, but I definitely. I definitely felt something right here.
Rory
I was more of a £7 crier when it came to Will Smith movies. £7 got me.
Damaris
I think I cried or. So I'm gonna go home and watch it. I haven't watched it in, like, 10 years.
Rory
I am legend. When he strangles the dog. Choked up a bit.
Mal
Bad Boys 40 just rapped.
Damaris
Yes. I'm excited.
Mal
I'm not.
Damaris
But, you know, y'all didn't like Bad Boys 3.
Rory
Still.
Mal
I just don't want to see Martin. I don't want to see Martin trying to do his own running scenes. No more.
Rory
Why?
Mal
Because Martin can't run.
Rory
He could barely run in Bad Boys, too.
Mal
Yeah, I was like, yeah, like, exactly. So imagine three is how many years after Bad Boy.
Damaris
Well, he was. He was hurt the majority of Bad Boys 3, but Bad Boys 3 was still. Obviously, it's not as good as 2 and 1, but Bad Boys 3 was not a bad movie.
Mal
It wasn't a bad movie, but I just. I don't want to see Will and. Well, Will's kind of still sort of in shape, but I don't want to.
Damaris
See very much in shape.
Mal
I don't want to see Martin trying to, like, fall out of windows and get up and run. Just, like, let Martin just be, like, the dude, the dispatch guy now. Let him be funny, like, as a dispatcher, like, Mike, get your ass over there. Mike. You know, let him do that shit from. Don't show Martin out there running around, jumping through shit. Don't do that. It. I.
Damaris
Well, give it a try. I say you haven't seen three, Rory.
Rory
No, see, I thought about it on a plane. I'm clicking it, but I was like.
Damaris
I'm forcing you to watch it. I'm coming over this week.
Mal
Mar need glasses now. He can't shoot without his glasses. It's like, what are we doing?
Rory
At least it's accurate.
Mal
Yeah, but come on, man. It's time to go. Sit down. It's time. Not for life. For real. One of you is going to die trying to do the next five. For now, he had never seen Bad Boys.
Julian
Bad Boys for now.
Rory
Wait, Wasn't Bad Boys 3 called for life? They're still lifing. Wasn't it Bad Boys 3?
Mal
Well, that's.
Julian
I feel like that's been the catchphrase.
Mal
This whole life before.
Rory
I get.
Mal
But see, you know why I'm scared for this one. And be honest.
Rory
No, ludicrous.
Mal
No. The total opposite.
Damaris
He got the mumps.
Mal
I feel like this is that. Don't do that. I feel like this is Scout, yo. Yeah, That's a legend. Don't do that.
Rory
I agree.
Mal
I feel like Bad Boys is headed to the Fast and furious route.
Damaris
I don't think they're gonna make it to 10. Them two are not gonna survive the 10.
Mal
Like, no way. Because the stunts that they was trying to do in three, I was like, all right, all right. I seen where this turned to fast and furious.
Rory
I see where it went with the Irishman.
Mal
Yeah. Chill out. You know what I'm saying? Let's keep it more like, you know, it don't Gotta be so much action. I understand you're trying to keep it. It an action film, but let's. Let's keep it more comedy now.
Damaris
The best thing about those movies, I mean it. The action has always been good, especially, like, the driving scenes in Miami and all of that. But the comedy, the banter is what makes those movies.
Mal
We need more of that as these get older, is what I'm saying.
Rory
Just.
Damaris
They can start a podcast.
Julian
Yeah, yeah.
Mal
These.
Julian
The podcast.
Mal
Yeah, These just like. All right, fam.
Julian
They can podcast with guns.
Mal
Yeah. Bad Boys 3. They Shot Homie and he survived it miraculously and all. Kind of don't tell. He ain't gonna watch this movie.
Rory
You know, somebody already spoiled it for him. Isn't, like, his son in it or something?
Damaris
We'll watch it.
Rory
Somebody spoiled it for me already.
Julian
Jaden's in it.
Mal
Yeah. Yes, he's in it.
Damaris
Shout out to the Karate Kid.
Rory
Kia had never seen the Patriot before, so we watched it yesterday. And I love Gibson.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I love that movie. And I hadn't seen in a long time, but I started to get judgy in the beginning of, like, Mel Gibson. Trying to be. Get sympathy for being this widower was some of the most selfish I've ever seen in my life. Of course your wife is gonna die when you make her have seven kids in the 1700s. What the is wrong with you? Seven? It's. Having seven kids in 2024 might kill a woman. You made your wife have seven kids in the 1700s, and now is like, how'd she die?
Mal
And all she had was a. A bowl of hot water by the bed and some towels.
Rory
Can you imagine the 1700s making your. That's all they do have, seven kids.
Mal
They just rinse out the. The towel and a bowl of hot water and just put it on. It's like, she's hemorrhaging. She's gonna need more.
Julian
That must have looked crazy.
Rory
And what's funny is Kia asked like, well, how'd the wife die? I was like, they never address it. And I finally realized, because it's obvious she had seven kids, she definitely died on the last one.
Mal
Yeah, she died trying to. Trying to give birth.
Rory
Like, if she made it to five, you have to feel like, wow, I can't believe we did that. We should chill.
Mal
And, you know, she was only 24.
Rory
Oh, I was gonna go with, like, 14.
Mal
That's crazy. That's sick.
Rory
They started having kids at, like, 14 back then, right? Yeah, right after the period.
Julian
They try it now?
Mal
Yeah, they do it now. Yeah, sick times. All right, well, enjoy your weekend. Be safe. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger. Peace. No worrying now.
Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 249 | Fly On The Wall
Release Date: March 8, 2024
Introduction
In Episode 249 of New Rory & MAL, hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, Rory and MAL delve into a variety of engaging topics, blending humor with insightful discussions. The episode, titled "Fly On The Wall," navigates through the realms of music production, social media's influence on businesses, celebrity conspiracies, and personal relationship advice, all while maintaining their signature candid and comedic style.
1. "Fly On The Wall" in Studio Sessions
The episode kicks off with Rory attempting to position himself as a "fly on the wall" during music studio sessions. He shares his experiences of hanging out in studios with renowned artists, aiming to debunk rumors that he and MAL don't socialize outside the podcast.
MAL humorously contrasts Rory's intentions by describing him as a "mosquito" rather than a discreet observer, highlighting the challenges Rory faces in maintaining the subtlety expected of a fly on the wall.
The hosts discuss the dynamics of studio collaborations, emphasizing that while Rory's ideas are valuable, his presence tends to be more intrusive than subtle.
2. Social Media's Impact on Restaurants: The Brooklyn Chop House Example
Transitioning from studio talk, Rory and MAL explore how Instagram and TikTok influence the clientele and ambiance of restaurants, using Brooklyn Chop House as a case study.
They debate the balance between attracting a trendy crowd for social media buzz and maintaining a loyal customer base that aligns with the restaurant's original vision. MAL expresses concerns about the potential for disruptive behavior, such as fights, that may arise from an influx of social media-driven patrons.
The conversation underscores the tension between leveraging social media for business success and preserving the core identity of a brand.
3. Music Production and Studio Dynamics
Further delving into music production, Rory recounts his interaction with legendary producers like Nas and Hit Boy, attempting to contribute his ideas to their projects. MAL and the team express skepticism about Rory's role, emphasizing that his contributions are more about enhancing existing work rather than being a passive observer.
They highlight the importance of clarity in roles within the studio, with MAL advocating for Rory to embrace his active role rather than striving for passivity.
4. Ryan Garcia Conspiracy Theories and Fight with Devin Haney
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing boxer Ryan Garcia's controversial claims about his experiences at Bohemian Grove, suggesting involvement in illicit activities. The hosts express mixed sentiments, balancing skepticism with curiosity.
MAL references Ryan Garcia’s background, including his extensive amateur fights and potential brain injuries, to contextualize his behavior and credibility. The conversation reflects a broader skepticism towards celebrity conspiracy theories, emphasizing the need for credible evidence.
The hosts debate the plausibility of Garcia's claims, considering his public persona and the logistics of his alleged experiences.
5. Nelly's Songwriting Credits Issues
Rory brings up the topic of Nelly not writing his own songs, leading to a discussion about authenticity and industry practices in music production.
The hosts express disappointment over the realization that certain artists may rely heavily on behind-the-scenes talent, questioning the transparency within the music industry.
6. Listener Voicemail: Relationship Advice
Listener Michelle from Chicago calls in seeking advice on dealing with a friend embroiled in a toxic relationship. She grapples with whether to continue offering support or to set boundaries to protect her own well-being.
The hosts provide thoughtful advice, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing when continued support may be enabling harmful behavior.
They stress the importance of prioritizing one's mental health while supporting friends in making healthier choices.
7. Clubbing and Las Vegas Discussion
Rory, MAL, and Julian engage in a lively debate about the merits and drawbacks of clubbing in Las Vegas versus New York City. They discuss the relentless pace of Vegas, its impact on individuals, and the overall casino culture.
The conversation highlights the addictive nature of gambling and the potential for financial and personal decline, painting Las Vegas as a city designed to deplete rather than enrich its visitors.
They caution against the allure of gambling and the superficial attractions of Vegas clubs, advocating for more meaningful and balanced pursuits elsewhere.
8. Film and Music Discussions
The hosts share their opinions on various films and albums, reflecting on how media influences their perspectives. From discussing the emotional impact of movies like "Past Lives" to reminiscing about classic albums, the conversation underscores the interplay between personal experiences and artistic expression.
They explore how certain films and music resonate with them, fueling both nostalgia and critical analysis of cultural narratives.
Conclusion and Upcoming Plans
As the episode wraps up, the hosts talk about their weekend plans, including watching movies and attending events. They maintain their humorous banter, reinforcing the camaraderie that defines their podcast dynamic.
The closing segments highlight their continuous commitment to engaging discussions, promising more entertaining content in future episodes.
Notable Quotes
Final Thoughts
Episode 249 of New Rory & MAL offers a multifaceted exploration of contemporary issues through the lens of two charismatic hosts. From the intricacies of music production and the pitfalls of social media influence to navigating toxic relationships and scrutinizing celebrity narratives, Rory and MAL provide listeners with a blend of humor, honesty, and relatable commentary. Whether tackling serious topics or indulging in lighthearted banter, the episode exemplifies the engaging and unpredictable nature of the podcast.