Episode 252 | Money, Powder, Respect

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 252 | Money, Powder, Respect

Release Date: March 22, 2024

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Introduction

In Episode 252 of New Rory & MAL, titled "Money, Powder, Respect," hosts Rory, Mal, Damaris, and Julian dive into a variety of topics ranging from travel destinations and personal anecdotes to discussions on the music industry and social issues. The episode is a blend of insightful conversations and lighthearted banter, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful commentary.

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1. Travel Hotspots: Turks vs. Tulum

The hosts kick off the episode by debating popular travel destinations, specifically comparing Turks and Caicos to Tulum.

• Damaris (00:37): "Never going to Turks. Why Turks is the New Orchard Beach."

• Mal (00:41): "That's crazy. Are we rolling?"

They discuss the rising popularity of Turks, likening it to established hotspots like Orchard Beach and South Beach, while also highlighting its high costs.

• Rory (01:18): "But just because everyone goes to Turks doesn't like. It's still a very expensive place."

• Damaris (01:21): "It's a beautiful place, but I'd rather go to somewhere where nobody's on to this spot yet. Cool."

The conversation underscores a preference for less crowded, more affordable destinations despite Turks' growing fame.

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2. Weekend Plans and Upcoming Performances

Transitioning from travel, the hosts share their excitement about upcoming events and personal plans.

• Damaris (05:14): "This Saturday, March 23rd, we will be in DC. Howard Theater tickets are still available."

• Mal (05:43): "Since we got that out the way, we can get to the weekend..."

They discuss attending events in Washington D.C., appreciating the local crowd and the opportunity to spend time with family from neighboring areas.

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3. St. Patrick's Day Reflections

The group humorously reflects on their lack of celebration for St. Patrick's Day, touching on cultural exploitation and personal traditions.

• Mal (05:43): "I have no text messages from any of you. I think it was out of respect that St. Patrick's Day does exploit my culture."

• Damaris (06:16): "March 26, 30 years old, baby D in the building."

The conversation reveals their conscious decision to abstain from typical festivities, blending humor with commentary on cultural appropriation.

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4. Taxidermy and Pet Memorials

A significant portion of the episode delves into the topic of taxidermy, sparked by a discussion about preserving beloved pets.

• Mal (10:03): "There's nothing we can't do to my niece. You aren't doing that."

• Damaris (10:27): "It looks like she's just standing there frozen."

They explore the emotional implications of taxidermy, debating its appropriateness and the personal discomfort it can cause, even among the hosts.

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5. Meek Mill and the Rise of Podcasting

The hosts engage in a critical analysis of Meek Mill's foray into podcasting, examining its impact on his music career and public perception.

• Mal (26:10): "I think he needs to get more creative with his roles... podcasts aren't translating to music."

• Damaris (26:34): "I think that he needs to spend more time focusing on the sound and the feel of your music."

They discuss how Meek Mill's increased presence on social media and podcasts may be detracting from his musical output, suggesting that his focus should remain on his artistry to maintain relevance.

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6. Sexyy Red and the Modern Music Industry

A lively debate ensues about Sexyy Red's position in the music industry, her upcoming releases, and the evolving nature of hip-hop.

• Damaris (40:24): "I think this is the new blueprint for artists..."

• Mal (43:31): "Her personality is going to carry everything. That's the business model."

The conversation highlights Sexyy Red's strategic use of personality and viral moments to sustain her career, reflecting broader trends in how artists navigate the modern music landscape.

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7. Violence in Hip-Hop and Its Societal Impact

The hosts tackle the contentious issue of violence in hip-hop, debating the genre's influence on societal behavior and individual actions.

• Mal (55:28): "I agree. That was a good, healthy conversation, guys."

• Damaris (56:45): "You should put integrity into anything that you're creating, into anything that you're doing."

They argue that while hip-hop depicts violent realities, attributing societal violence solely to the genre overlooks deeper systemic issues like poverty and lack of education. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the broader context behind the art.

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8. Voicemails: Personal Stories and Hypotheticals

Listeners contribute voicemails sharing personal anecdotes and posing hypothetical scenarios, which the hosts address with a mix of humor and sincerity.

• Voicemail from Michelle (108:28): "So bam, here we go... it was one of the greatest experiences of my life."

• Julian (129:16): "But homie should mind his business."

The segment offers relatable content as listeners share intimate experiences, prompting discussions on topics like threesomes, transgender relationships, and personal boundaries.

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9. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Content

In their closing remarks, the hosts recap essential information about upcoming events and encourage listeners to engage with their content.

• Damaris (126:55): "Yo, y'all are sick. Y'all are crazy."

• Rory (128:07): "We will see y'all this Saturday, March 23rd. Howard Theater..."

They wrap up the episode with invitations to subscribe to their Patreon, YouTube, and follow them on social media, ensuring listeners stay connected for future content.

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Notable Quotes

• Mal (10:03): "There's nothing we can't do to my niece. You aren't doing that."

• Damaris (26:34): "I think that he needs to spend more time focusing on the sound and the feel of your music."

• Julian (129:16): "But homie should mind his business."

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Conclusion

Episode 252 of New Rory & MAL offers a rich tapestry of discussions, blending personal stories with critical analyses of cultural and societal issues. From travel debates to in-depth conversations on the music industry and social influences, the hosts provide an engaging and multifaceted listening experience. Their candidness and ability to navigate diverse topics make this episode a compelling addition to their podcast series.

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Transcript

[Rory]

Backed out the hammer, and it's because.

[Mal]

One, I'd be conflicted. Like, what the seven soft. But seven soft is crazy.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Mal]

No warts, clean shaft.

[Rory]

What a waste of a piece. Seven soft.

[Damaris]

No worry.

[Rory]

Enough.

[Damaris]

Never going to Turks. Why Turks is the New Orchard Beach.

[Mal]

That's crazy. Are we rolling?

[Julian]

It costs too much to be that. I get what you're saying, but it costs nothing.

[Damaris]

Cost. Everybody's a scammer.

[Julian]

They did that in Tulum.

[Mal]

You.

[Julian]

That is too expensive.

[Mal]

Saying Turks is the New Orchard beach is absurd.

[Damaris]

It is.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

No disrespect to Turks, but everybody's gone or going to Turks.

[Mal]

I could like Tulum, maybe that comparison. But Turks is still Turks, even though Tulum is Tulum.

[Julian]

You go to Puerto Rico.

[Damaris]

Tulum is a new. But I'm not going.

[Mal]

Tum is Coney Beach. Coney Island.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Tulum is like the new. Like, South Beach.

[Mal]

It's Jones Beach.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And then once that airport is in Tulum, it's really over. It's a rap.

[Mal]

But just because everyone goes to Turks doesn't like. It's still a very expensive place.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No. And it's a. It's a beautiful place, but I'm just like. It's just like everybody's going, like. I just don't. Y'all know that about me. I don't like going where everybody's going. I'd rather go to somewhere where it's like, oh, nobody's on to this spot yet. Cool.

[Mal]

You don't want to go to that dock bar that. That Drake goes to.

[Julian]

He's my nose.

[Mal]

You don't want to run into the boy and Turks.

[Damaris]

No.

[Julian]

You know, you could just go to Turks and avoid the. The only thing. It's certain clubs and restaurants and Noah's Ark that people go to. But there's.

[Mal]

You can.

[Julian]

L really avoid.

[Damaris]

All I know, you can go anywhere and just be isolated and secluded from. You know, you don't have to be mixy besides going from a restaurant or something like that. But there's a lot of other islands that people are not on to yet for sure. You know what I'm saying? Chill. We ain't doing that.

[Mal]

Roosevelt.

[Damaris]

We ain't doing that, baby D. Nah, we ain't giving that away.

[Julian]

Can you text it to me?

[Damaris]

I got you.

[Rory]

All right.

[Mal]

I mean, bro.

[Damaris]

Hit the clock, bro. What we doing?

[Mal]

I mean, they could just, like, look at a map.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but still, they wouldn't know to.

[Mal]

Go there, like, within the West Indies or.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but they Wouldn't know to go there. And if they go there, they wouldn't know what to do.

[Mal]

I guess that's true.

[Damaris]

You know what I'm saying? Like, now people know what to do just by following people on social media. Okay, I gotta go there. I gotta go there. It's like they get their whole itinerary based off of the people they follow that have been to an island. Like, oh, yeah, mine's like Noah's Ark and Turks. Everybody wants to go there. Just because Drake obviously made it a hot spot and that's what a ballplayer is.

[Julian]

Be. Allegedly. I would know.

[Mal]

I don't think it's alleged. I think it's pretty. Say that they're there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I got.

[Mal]

There's a lot of women without jobs go there.

[Julian]

Off of the prices and everything. Off of TikTok. I went on TikTok and searched, like, everything I wanted to do and found where to do it, how much it was going to cost, how to contact every. I love TikTok. They can't ban TikTok. I'll die.

[Mal]

Can't ban the snowman.

[Damaris]

I do believe that. I do believe that they ban Tik Tok. In America. We will see a mass suicide.

[Mal]

A matt. Like a. I'm a. Like a cult suicide.

[Damaris]

Like, I'm. I'm Nike Cortez. How much does it take to, like. How many do it take to reach, like, a mass. Is it, like.

[Julian]

I think it's 8?

[Mal]

8 people.

[Damaris]

8 is not a mass.

[Mal]

It's a mass suicide. Every day, then probably on this block.

[Julian]

But if. If you guys all do it together, okay. You have to do it together.

[Mal]

Like, as a crew.

[Julian]

As a crew, yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, no. I think if they ban TikTok in America, we're gonna see way more than eight people commit suicide.

[Mal]

I just.

[Damaris]

Instagram be down for 30 minutes, and people be fudgeing, panicking, and losing their.

[Julian]

Mind, which I don't understand, because Instagram ain't even that girl.

[Mal]

People will find the new.

[Damaris]

What?

[Julian]

She ain't that girl.

[Damaris]

What is that?

[Mal]

I don't. I don't know.

[Julian]

Like, it. She's not it. Like, Instagram is not the girl. Like, Instagram is not the it girl anymore.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's like. Okay.

[Julian]

Not like.

[Damaris]

That's the new thing that y'all are saying now. Like, it's not. That's not the girl.

[Julian]

Yeah. Like, she's not that girl. Like, that. You know who that girl is? Like, the it girl. She's not the girl anymore, but she's still the Goat.

[Mal]

Like, even if she's not the.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Hottest chick that year, she is still. Yeah, she's still Bernice.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like there's always going to be another Fashion Nova partner. But we know Bernice.

[Damaris]

What is the. What is the. What is the correlation with this blue slide on the.

[Julian]

You guys.

[Mal]

Oh, well, we'll get into that. Well, welcome back, everyone. We'll get into our weekends in a second. Thank you for coming back. We have a new My Karma is Beautiful available right now with our friend Boss.

[Damaris]

Boss. Thank you for coming out, man. Appreciate that.

[Rory]

We love shout out to Queens fiends in the building.

[Mal]

Somebody replied back to us posting the Boss like trailer. Real thing. Boss. With the dexterity of an elite Tetris player on the mic.

[Damaris]

Yeah. If you really look at the video, like, you can tell he was great at Tetris.

[Mal]

I got this the same feeling for sure.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But how was your weekend?

[Damaris]

Weekend was cool, man. Weekend was cool.

[Mal]

Dreaming about D.C. this weekend.

[Damaris]

D.C. march 23rd, Saturday. Yeah, that came quick, right?

[Mal]

Very quick.

[Damaris]

This Saturday, March 23rd, we are in D.C. howard. Theater tickets are still available, but. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. We always have fun when we go down to dc. The crowd is great, people are great. I got some family coming up, some family coming out from Maryland, Virginia and shit like that.

[Mal]

So something tells me you have a lot of family off 95.

[Damaris]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

That's.

[Damaris]

Just leave it right there.

[Mal]

I don't even. They're just conveniently placed at exits. Right?

[Damaris]

You know what? This is a nice neighborhood right here. Yeah, I just. You know what I mean?

[Mal]

Dc, then Richmond. Like, why does it just keep going city? How does mom so much family in Greensville?

[Damaris]

It's just. It's just like, you know, the DMV area is a great area, man. Beautiful area, beautiful people. So March 23rd, this Saturday, we will be in DC tickets available now. New Rory Mall dot com.

[Mal]

Since we got that out the way we can get to the weekend, I got no text messages from any of you. I think it was out of respect that St. Patrick's Day does exploit my culture. So that's why nobody. Yo, it's funny, said Happy St. Pat's to me, right?

[Damaris]

Yo, it's funny because somebody mentioned to me that it was St. Patrick's Day. And I was like, oh, I thought about calling you, but I was like, Rory is probably gonna hang up on me if I him and wish him house. Happy St. Pat's Day.

[Mal]

Yeah, because if you called me, I think something would be wrong.

[Damaris]

And Then for me to just say, Happy St. Pat's Day, you'll probably be like, all right, I'm not doing this.

[Mal]

Call me on my birthday.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll save it for your birthday.

[Rory]

Because.

[Mal]

I would feel like you don't call me on my birthday, but St. Patrick's Day is when you do it.

[Damaris]

I called you on your birthday.

[Julian]

You text him, happy Birthday with the earth. It capitalized.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I called him, too.

[Mal]

Yeah, I called him probably.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Called him on his birthday. Yeah, absolutely.

[Julian]

You gonna call me on mine?

[Damaris]

March 26, 30 years old, baby D in the building.

[Rory]

She lose her phone out there. She doesn't have that.

[Julian]

He didn't have to say that.

[Damaris]

Why not? I think it's dope that you're turning 30. Like, I get to witness you, like, reach a milestone, like the 30th. So I get to witness.

[Rory]

Every dog year is seven years, right?

[Damaris]

Every dog year is seven years.

[Julian]

Julian, I promise you, I will slap the dog shit out of you today.

[Damaris]

So dimash is 210 in dog years.

[Rory]

I was gonna say. Let's follow this. Let's follow my logic here. Men, I feel like we age a year. A year is a set standard.

[Damaris]

I know some. I went to high school with age more than a year.

[Rory]

Oh, that's the crack.

[Damaris]

These look bad.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, well, things, you know, change your biological clock. But I'm saying a year, man, or year. If you say you're 30, you're 30 as a man, but 30 for a woman means it's a little different.

[Damaris]

In what way?

[Julian]

How so?

[Mal]

It's not like egg freezing difference.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, your clock. Like, people look at it. Like, someone says, if you're a man and you're 30, you're young. If you're a woman in your 30.

[Mal]

I don't think it's that way anymore.

[Rory]

So I want to ask you guys, what is the clock? Like, what is the number if. If the dog is seven years? If a man is just the one to one ratio. You know that clock, woman, you know.

[Damaris]

That clock we have at, like, Union Square?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, on the building of all the.

[Mal]

Debt that we've included?

[Damaris]

That's the woman.

[Rory]

That's the woman. 7. 74 trillion.

[Damaris]

Like, damn, 30. You getting up there, Baby D? No, but I'm happy that. To. To witness this, though. Like, I want to see. I'm. I'm excited to see Demari in her 30s and, you know, see how she changes, how she evolves. You told us you. You had. Can I say it on what you did this weekend. Okay, I'm sorry, but see, I asked, right? See what? You see, I'm still on my toes. I'm still on my toes. I asked, right? I wasn't gonna just throw your business out there. I just asked. You know what I'm saying? But you know, now watch Rory.

[Julian]

Let me ask again.

[Rory]

Watch. Rory wants to clarify.

[Damaris]

She had. She did something this weekend.

[Mal]

Okay. And, you know, didn't tell me.

[Damaris]

Yeah. It wasn't nothing crazy. It's just a damaris weekend, you know?

[Mal]

Got you.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Getting older.

[Damaris]

Shit.

[Julian]

Well, but I do plan on freezing my eggs, even though you were being on massage.

[Damaris]

Freezing your eggs.

[Julian]

You only 30.

[Rory]

See, that's. This proves my point. That's not. I'm not trying to be an. With this question. I'm saying their clock is different.

[Julian]

You kept bringing up dog ears. You were trying to be a dick.

[Rory]

Well, because. Because comparatively, we look at dogs.

[Mal]

We look at women like dogs.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Well, a. Is a female dog. See, and I do love my.

[Rory]

That's right.

[Damaris]

There you go.

[Rory]

Some. A lot of men treat their dogs better than their. Most men treat their dog better than.

[Damaris]

What part of America?

[Julian]

Oh, my God. A. With a. A thoroughbred pit bull, baby. He treat a female pit bull. He treat her. Amazing.

[Rory]

That dog eats steak.

[Julian]

He'll carry the dog and dog walk the woman.

[Damaris]

That dog eats steak. Your girl can't eat steak.

[Rory]

Nope.

[Damaris]

I mean, yo, your girl eating oatmeal for dinner while your female pit bulls eating like a. A ribeye. It's crazy. Like, imagine going in the kitchen and searing a ribeye in the. And your girl upstairs thinking you throwing down for her. And you put that in a dog.

[Rory]

Bowl like an 8 ounce filet.

[Mal]

How long have I been with the girl compared to how long I've had.

[Damaris]

The dog, man, it don't matter, man, you can't take no ribeye for your female pit board and take some fucking oatmeal upstairs to your girl.

[Mal]

I've definitely cooked a steak for baes before.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Julian]

And fed that girl chipotle.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And then fed your girl like Stove Top craft macaroni and cheese.

[Mal]

Yeah, why not?

[Rory]

That Mac and cheese, as in, damn.

[Damaris]

That'S a Republican right there. That's a real Republican right there. That's.

[Mal]

Americans are about the dog.

[Julian]

We're family, so stop.

[Damaris]

I love dogs too, but cooking. Cooking a steak for your dog and giving your girl some bullshit is wild.

[Mal]

A woman will break your heart. A dog won't. Unless they, like, die.

[Julian]

Well, I mean, they die every 10 years? Like, yeah.

[Mal]

That's why you have to make sure their time here is well spent. You have mad time to eat a steak. Baze only has 10 years.

[Damaris]

My homeboy. We only got short time with her. Gotta. Gotta make her happy.

[Mal]

Bas isn't gonna make it to 30.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Unless I. Maybe I should freeze her eggs.

[Rory]

Just freeze her, actually.

[Damaris]

Freeze her.

[Mal]

Freeze. They already. They already made me. Would you cut her up?

[Damaris]

Would you get. Would you do taxidermy on base? Like, what is.

[Julian]

Stuff her.

[Damaris]

You stuff her and put on a mantle.

[Mal]

You can do that.

[Rory]

Yeah, with everything.

[Julian]

Rory, I promise you, if you fucking stuff beyond. You're not going to do that.

[Mal]

Hell yeah.

[Julian]

No, you're not.

[Mal]

Like, with the same fur, it looks.

[Damaris]

Like she's just standing there frozen.

[Mal]

Yeah, that'd be amazing.

[Damaris]

That would be the sickest in the world. Yo, if I walk in your house, God forbid, it bases passed away and then you get taxidermy and Baze, like, on the mantle by the tv. I'm leaving. I'm walking out of your house.

[Mal]

I'm going to take it a step further and be truthful. This isn't for content. I would sleep, like, with.

[Julian]

With dead ass bays.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yo, I cuddle bays to.

[Julian]

He's white sleep.

[Mal]

So, like, I would. If I have bays in the afterlife, like.

[Rory]

Yeah, looks like you can do it from anywhere from like 500 to $1,000 to taxidermy a domestic dog.

[Mal]

That'd be awesome.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

I wouldn't want to see the process, though. That'd be. That would.

[Damaris]

No, you don't.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You got cotton in her. No, I would hope that you would want to see the process.

[Mal]

Whoever really does that is a sick, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

To cut up like dead dogs and make stuffed animals at him. That's some sick.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's a real thing, though.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's a real big business.

[Mal]

But like. Yeah, I see. I would want to do that. But then it would remind me of that process. Like, if I looked in the fake eyes they put in, I'd be like, well, where did they put base's eyes?

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, I'd feel away.

[Rory]

No, no, I take it back.

[Julian]

It would be nice closed. Rory.

[Damaris]

No, they don't close.

[Rory]

No, they don't close the eyes.

[Mal]

I would think they would put fake eyes.

[Rory]

It looks like the dog is just frozen.

[Damaris]

It looks like the dog is literally just frozen.

[Rory]

And you can get it, like, positioned.

[Damaris]

Like, you could have her sitting down.

[Julian]

Oh, like she walking, like midwalk. Like the Instagram photos when you walk in through New York City.

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Mal]

It'd be cool. Like, Baze does her hind leg dance.

[Damaris]

Like, they could do that.

[Mal]

Freezer that way.

[Damaris]

They could do that.

[Rory]

But then we get like, a.

[Mal]

Could do that.

[Damaris]

They could do that.

[Rory]

A fake piss stream coming out. She's peeing every time you go near her.

[Damaris]

They could do that. You can do all of that.

[Mal]

Listen, I'm kind of sold.

[Damaris]

It's 2024, man.

[Julian]

There's nothing we can't do to my niece. You're not doing that.

[Damaris]

That's some sick to cuddle with that, though. Cuddle with the taxidermies is like.

[Rory]

Cuddle with the taxidermies.

[Damaris]

That's equivalent to, like, going to somebody's house and, like, they're in the bedding, going to room, like, yo, what's up? And they got, like, the urn with ashes in the bed with them. It's like.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's like spooning.

[Mal]

No, but that's ashes. Like, I would. The fur would be there.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Mal]

Wouldn't the fur, like, start to die? How do they.

[Rory]

Nothing. It's. What's that called? What they. They coat it in. It's a preservative.

[Damaris]

Yeah. It's like. It's almost like a waxy type of thing.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Not against it.

[Damaris]

No. Getting it done is. Honestly, I know people that have gotten it done to their pets, but cuddling with it is a whole different level. I don't know what the that is.

[Mal]

Speaking of fatherhood, I sent you a taxidermy. I. I sent a video to Damaris and Julian this morning, so I didn't really celebrate St. Patrick's Day.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I don't want to contribute to the exploitation of my culture. It's been commercialized. So, you know, I'm protesting to some degree.

[Damaris]

Speaking of St. Patrick's Day. Not to cut you off. Did y'all see that? They're bringing back Ghost.

[Julian]

Like, I'm sorry.

[Mal]

Wait, wait. Like, Power Ghost?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I thought they canceled the whole show. No, like, all the power books got canceled. He's coming back from the dead. Are they taxiderming him?

[Damaris]

Apparently, he didn't die. He just got shot in the chest, fell off a balcony, and they spent.

[Mal]

An entire season talking about his death.

[Damaris]

Listen, man, I don't know what the writers are gonna do, but. Amari.

[Mal]

What is he coming back in?

[Damaris]

Amari Harwick posted something on his Instagram.

[Mal]

On St Patrick's Day?

[Damaris]

No, this was, like, last week. But I thought about it when St Patrick's Day, I'm like, I'm done, though. I'm done. DMF is. They had a Tupac on there that looked like. I don't know what I. I'm just done.

[Mal]

Is that episode out yet? I haven't gotten to that episode. If it did.

[Damaris]

No, I don't know if it's out. I just. I saw the.

[Rory]

Wasn't there an AirPod in the actor's ear or something like that?

[Damaris]

I believe Tupac.

[Rory]

Yeah, I saw that on my timeline.

[Damaris]

I don't believe that. You saw the picture of it.

[Rory]

Yeah, there was a screen grab. Someone said, there's an airpod in homie's ear in the middle of a scene.

[Damaris]

There was a zesty putting the AirPod in it, too.

[Mal]

See, this is just showing he's still alive. You guys are following the clue, okay? They got AirPods in Cuba.

[Damaris]

I know.

[Mal]

Some communism going on.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah. They got some AirPods down there for Pac for sure.

[Mal]

And you only get one because it has to be, you know, distributed equally forever.

[Damaris]

I get it. Yeah.

[Mal]

Someone posted a photo of the guy that's playing Tupac in bmf, and it admittedly looked like a zesty photo and someone tweeted it as hit them. They up said, hit him up.

[Damaris]

I got it. No, no, no, I got it. It's all good.

[Mal]

When was Tupac hanging out with bmf?

[Damaris]

I don't know, man. I have no idea. Not. Not saying it didn't happen, though, because it probably definitely did. I never heard that story, but it's not far fetched, though, Meeching them. They was when they was popping down in Atlanta. It was. They was hanging out with everybody.

[Mal]

So, I mean, all this means is we're going to get a 54 part Vlad interview about Tupac hanging out with BMF. So, you know, I'm excited. But back to my weekend. I didn't celebrate, but I took Amara to the park because it was really nice this weekend. Tell me if you think Child Protective Services will be at my door by tonight.

[Rory]

All right.

[Damaris]

Wait, is this you?

[Mal]

This is me.

[Damaris]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

Yo, what the. Yo, what the is wrong with you, bro?

[Mal]

I misjudged the slide.

[Damaris]

Yo, what the is wrong with.

[Rory]

Yeeted Amara out of that.

[Damaris]

Yo, what the.

[Julian]

Give my friend credit. He held on to Amar the whole time. He never let her.

[Mal]

I sacrificed myself to save him.

[Rory]

What the is wrong with, though? Look at that. That's really good ball. Security.

[Damaris]

Yo, what the is wrong with you, bro?

[Mal]

You can't tell in this video. I hit my Head really hard. I have a cut in the back.

[Rory]

Of my head turning Rory's face, but.

[Mal]

I tried to turn to cover. This was like me trying to protect where my father. My fatherly instincts kicked in.

[Julian]

Yeah, that boom head.

[Rory]

Oh, you hit your head on the slide.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, very, very hard.

[Rory]

Yeah, the, like, slight delay, and then Amari starting to cry. It's so funny.

[Damaris]

Yo, what is wrong with you, man? What the is wrong with you, man?

[Mal]

Did you hear that thud?

[Rory]

Yo, you know the funniest thing about being a parent? Like, one of the many funny things your kids are just subjected to, the dumb shit that you do. Like, Amara wouldn't have done this. Dolo. This is Rory's. Like, this will be fun.

[Mal]

She was. She was forced to do this. She just bullied.

[Rory]

She's got forced into.

[Damaris]

But why didn't you, like, put your. Your sneakers, like, put your heels on the slide and kind of slow yourself down?

[Mal]

So look how he came out.

[Damaris]

You just got your legs up. Like, put your fucking sneaker down.

[Rory]

Your leg is like.

[Damaris]

What are you doing?

[Rory]

Your knees poking off.

[Julian]

First of all, you're lucky you didn't fly. You see that angle? That you didn't fly off the slide at that angle.

[Mal]

I caught myself.

[Damaris]

That's all. I start. You'd be put on your trousers, man.

[Mal]

It's a good TRA right there.

[Damaris]

Stop putting all the starch on them. Question.

[Rory]

When you were in the two part of this, did you know it was about to go to. Or was it just coming out of this? The surprise.

[Mal]

So Amar and I do slides all the time. I thought she was ready for, like, the big kid slide because she likes slides so much.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

In the tube, I was like, oh, this is really. Because we were barely moving in the tube. And then right before the tube, you can't see it from this angle. It, like, drops aggressively. Okay, so we went from, like, I was almost scooting.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

In the tube, I was like, this is. This was whack.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And then that dropped like a water slide. And I saw my life flash before my eyes.

[Rory]

Look at the curve. The whole slide makes like, you.

[Mal]

You're very curious. You're barely moving. And then you come out this down, like, on a vertical angle.

[Damaris]

Yo, that is crazy.

[Mal]

That slide isn't even safe for teenagers. Well, I'm sure that Jersey City needs to check the codes of this. That slide is so dangerous.

[Julian]

No, Rory, your big, heavy ass is causing more velocity. So therefore your velocity. You're coming down the slide faster than a kid would. Because you have more weight.

[Mal]

Because I'm fat. I get it.

[Julian]

No, you're not a child.

[Rory]

The form you have with Amar is really impressive, though. Like, you. You got that.

[Damaris]

Well, thank you.

[Julian]

Thankfully, you didn't fumble the football.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You. You. You. Oh, I protected Amara. Yeah.

[Mal]

I was making sure she was okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she was good.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

I mean, it kind of like, oh, my God. In the background.

[Mal]

After she cut the video, I immediately. Like, once we made sure, obviously Amara was okay, I was like, can we leave, please?

[Damaris]

Yeah, you have to leave the park after that.

[Mal]

I just.

[Damaris]

Now we're going over here. It's like, yo, get out of the park, man.

[Mal]

There was a lot of people there. I know it looks like it's empty playground, but this is a beautiful Sunday. There was so many people there.

[Julian]

That's so embarrassing.

[Mal]

I was like, yo, let's. Can we. Can we leave right now? I just. I could feel the judging eyes of all parents going like, wow, that's a shitty parent.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like, they definitely was like, he's an alcoholic.

[Mal]

Like, idiot. Did you not see that, Right? That there's a drop in that slide.

[Rory]

Tumbler in the other hand.

[Damaris]

You definitely.

[Mal]

Know the mars sober you held tomorrow.

[Damaris]

Like, how them girls be fighting the club, and they hold. They drink up when they like to.

[Julian]

Fall, and they never. They. The drink.

[Damaris]

That drink ain't spill. You ain't spilling that drink. You. You didn't spill Amara.

[Rory]

Amara's legs kicking, too. Oh, my God. So funny.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm glad. I'm glad Amaris is okay.

[Mal]

I was trying to absorb the impact at this point and keep her away from the ground.

[Julian]

Can you play it from the beginning just so I'm full speed?

[Damaris]

I can't wait till Amara is, like, at the age where she can look at this video and look at Rory like, yo, you are just. What is wrong with you?

[Mal]

I wish I would have been.

[Julian]

Please listen to kids.

[Mal]

I did this sober. That's a problem.

[Damaris]

Yo, you fell out of that. It sound like somebody had some sneakers in the Dr. You know, when the sneakers in the drive machine, you like, like, what the Wait.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

Damn, man.

[Julian]

Rory, that hurt. I know your ass hurt. I know your head hurt.

[Mal]

My lower back hurt.

[Rory]

Yeah, man, it was.

[Damaris]

Rory definitely got up and looked at the. Looked at the slide with both his hands on his hips and, like, why would they put this.

[Rory]

I wish he kept rolling.

[Mal]

I definitely looked and blamed the slide. The slide slid. It did what it was supposed to do.

[Damaris]

You start.

[Julian]

You start cursing, like, sit up there, like, no, one.

[Mal]

Who designed this?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Who put this there?

[Mal]

I want to speak to the architect.

[Damaris]

That's hilarious. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad Amara's okay.

[Mal]

She was a faker, man. Within two seconds, she was laughing, ready.

[Damaris]

To go back home.

[Julian]

She was just kind of stunned, like, because she fell.

[Damaris]

You fell like, you know, just like. Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

I don't think she got hurt at all. I think it was just like, surprise.

[Mal]

Oh, she was fine.

[Rory]

You said and one.

[Mal]

I. I don't get the reference.

[Rory]

You fall and one.

[Mal]

No, I like.

[Rory]

That'S cool.

[Mal]

Is Amar the basketball?

[Damaris]

You heard Julian. No, it's cool.

[Mal]

That's what you.

[Damaris]

If you're a comedian on stage and one of your jokes are la. Like, n. It's cool. Like it. I got 10 more minutes. There's nothing y'all can do to get me off this stage. I'm here for 10 more minutes. It. The main act is not even ready yet.

[Rory]

I know someone listening right now. Just pause. That was like, man, that sucked. It's whatever. Still listening.

[Damaris]

Still here, man.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Do you feel like social media has helped or hurt me?

[Mal]

That's a good question. I think helped, to be quite honest.

[Damaris]

Really? Yeah.

[Mal]

In the beginning, if you remember, Meek on Instagram was, like, kind of a thing when he still had the pre. Drake, when he still had the mystique of. This is the Philly. I hit spitter. I'm gonna sound like a horrible. But yeah. Who we thought Meek was was great for him to be involved in social media. And Meek was posting memes like he would. He was damn near like a meme page at one point on Instagram, he was very funny. Like, Meek was great on the Internet with mystique. Now it's just free for all. And even though he looks nuts, I think it's helping him. I think it's keep. Because if he's selling 6k without the social media rant, like, yeah, you need this. You need some type of attention.

[Damaris]

So wait, you. So you agree that 6k for meek is a fail?

[Mal]

Imagine. But if you didn't have social media, we would have sold three.

[Damaris]

See, I'm on the opposite side of that. I think. I think social media. I think social media has kind of like, it cause people to kind of turn on Meek and laugh at him and kind of like, now he's like. It's not even. It's like. It's like he's a meme now. You understand what I'm saying? It's almost like people are waiting for Meek to Post something so they can make fun of him.

[Mal]

But I think he's like, I don't think.

[Damaris]

I don't think they're waiting at this point. You do you?

[Mal]

Yes. After the Puff situation a few weeks ago, I think meek has been 100 leaning into our perception of him on social media.

[Damaris]

But that's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Even he's giving us more stuff to purposely clown even. That's some real shit.

[Damaris]

Even that situation, he was number one trending, I think, that week, right. On social media. On Twitter, you drop a. A six pack and you do 6,000 units, like we said. I don't think that Meek even had any plans of dropping that before that that happened. I mean, it's. It's smart to try to capitalize off of being number one trending, you know, also on Twitter, it's. It's smart to capitalize off of that. But.

[Mal]

But not when that's your first impression of being independent.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Mal]

And now you put a value on who you are as an artist in the current market. Only as funky as your last cut. Right now, Meek Mill is valued at 6,000 units, which we know Meek, his entire career has been valued much higher than that.

[Damaris]

What was the most Meek Soul first week? Probably it would have to be the Championships album, right?

[Mal]

Or what was the one with the red covered?

[Julian]

Dreams worth more than money?

[Mal]

I would say either one of those. When he. When he was with Nikki, I know that first week was.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Champions did 229,000, which is great.

[Julian]

Dreams worth more than money was 245, if I'm not mistaken.

[Mal]

And of course, album sales have changed drastically for all artists.

[Rory]

You mean dreams and nightmare.

[Mal]

No, but I mean, even. Even then it's a. It's a wild jump.

[Rory]

Yeah. Two dreams was more than what it was. 246, which is fire. Yeah.

[Julian]

Is this pain didn't do bad.

[Rory]

95.

[Julian]

Yeah, it didn't do better.

[Mal]

95, first week. Expensive pain. What was that? 2022.

[Damaris]

21.

[Mal]

21.

[Rory]

21. October 1st.

[Mal]

That's. I mean, that's really good in 2021. And I. Did he have a single with that? He complained how that was.

[Rory]

That was all out too. Yeah, he was pretty mad at Atlantic. It was just a lot of snipe snipe campaigns like skinning buses and billboards and stuff. But there wasn't too much promotion outside of that.

[Mal]

I just think he needs to get more creative with his roles. You can't brag about the independent and your only rollout B crazy tweets. I think that's helpful for him and keeps him in the conversation, but it's not translating to music. Which is why I think we get tweets like, I need to start a podcast. Because he's seeing the only thing that's really getting traction right now is the shit he's saying for better or for worse.

[Rory]

Which I think that's a good amount of self awareness to be like, okay, like maybe my voice is still valuable in this space, but it might not be in the music per se. I go viral every time I tweet. I do some. Some shit I say always is on the timeline. My value has now transitioned to this part of the culture.

[Mal]

Do you think Meek owes us an apology?

[Damaris]

I don't. Nah, man. No, no, no, no. Like, I don't. I get it, but nah, man. Why Meeks didn't. He did so Meek is like no longer valuable in music. So now he's going to. Now he's valuable and just what he says on social media. But now let's do a pod.

[Rory]

He would do very well on a timeline, like socially on a podcast where ads are sold versus people having to go to Apple Music or Spotify and finding his music. I think it would, think it would bode better for him.

[Julian]

I think currently I don't. I don't know how long lasting it was, what it would be, but I think that he could break out and get a lot of listens. I also think if he had a really good production team that would know how to cut up the dumb shit that he's saying. I think that it would actually be. But a lot of people would listen.

[Mal]

Do we know if Meek can podcast? That's what I'm saying for the first few episodes for sure. Because it's Meek. No matter what. There's gonna be a lot of eyes, even people that want to go to hate.

[Damaris]

You're gonna get. You're gonna get guests, get other rappers to come sit down. You'll go that route.

[Rory]

You have to. You'd have to dress it up. I'm assuming he's taught. I'm under the impression that he's talking like he tweets. If he goes on there and starts talking about prison reform, throw the whole podcast out.

[Mal]

But that's what he wants to discuss.

[Damaris]

He would have to know that's what he's saying.

[Rory]

He wants to do that.

[Damaris]

But you think that Meek is going to have a podcast and think he.

[Rory]

Needs to do the formula that we see with like Cam and Mace, be the reactive guy. Talk about shit in the culture. Be funny.

[Damaris]

No, no, no. Meek is too. He's too current. And 2 and 2 and 2.

[Rory]

If he thinks he's like Martin Luther Meek. Keep it, bro. No one wants to hear you talk about prison reform. That. That's not going to bring eyeballs to your podcast.

[Mal]

Okay, also, back to my original point of someone going through the prison system doesn't mean that they should be the face or the leader of it because they may not know how to properly speak about it. And this is not me shitting on Meek as far as how articulate he is. But how do we know Meek can get on a microphone and properly discuss prison reform? Just because he's went through it doesn't mean that you know how to pot about it.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not saying. I'm not saying that he has to get on the mic and, you know, but bring people in. Like, I don't go the, you know, jump right into the bring rappers on rap. I think you go into bringing people that can speak more in depth about prison reform and things like that. Things that. He's really into businesses and, you know, go that route. I would like to see me go that route. I don't want to see him jump, you know, straight into just sitting down with other artists and rappers and. I don't know.

[Julian]

Well, then he shouldn't have a podcast like y'all are in. Y'all are in the podcast industry. Y'all see everybody else's podcast failing. Y'all know there is no money in podcasting. Y'all see all these celebrities come out with podcasts and they fucking fly all the time. You can't just go on there and just meet, talking about all that. No one cares. No one is going to listen to that.

[Mal]

Cam and Mace are in their own lane. They're an anomaly because both of them. We've known their entire careers outside of music have had hilarious personalities, and we know Cam can debate with the best of them. He can be funny. He can be witty. We know. I'm not saying Meek isn't that, but that's not what he's known for. What makes us think that he'll be able to just carry a podcast? I don't even think advertisers out the gate would even attach themselves to that in this pod market. Outside of two or three episodes. Is it going to last with views? I mean, is Meek going to ask the right questions about all of that?

[Damaris]

All of that remains prison reform. All of that remains to be seen. But I'm just saying that I think that Meek's value is still more in music.

[Mal]

Agreed.

[Damaris]

I just think that he needs a different level of focus when it comes to his music. I think that he needs a different level of creativity. Put himself in different rooms with different creators and things like that and just focus on that. Because he is first and will always be first. An artist, an emcee, a rapper. I just think that. That he's trying, maybe trying. Try some different sounds. A lot of Meek's sounds is kind of similar. It's like, I feel like I heard that record already. I think that's it. I don't think Meek should even focus on podcasting. I think if it's like a passion thing and he wants to do it, like, you know, every now and then, sure, go for it. But don't just abandon music and say, okay, your value is in talking.

[Julian]

Well, yeah, I don't. Julian said that, but I don't think Meek never said that. I don't think Meek would ever abandon music. He never said that. He just said that he has a lot to say and that he would like a podcast.

[Damaris]

Put it in the music.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Huh? Put it in the music.

[Rory]

It's not translating.

[Julian]

He says. He literally said, I want to be a part of black media. I'm never going to tell a man who still has life in him not to do what he wants to do. I will always give advice onto how he could possibly do it. And I think that, like I said, if he had an amazing production team and he ever released episodes, almost like how caresha did, not regularly, not twice a week, not even once a week. You did it maybe once a month or once every couple weeks. I think that there's value in it. I think he has an audience that would sit up there and listen to him. Even if it's not us. I think he has an audience.

[Damaris]

I think it's cool for him to do that. I mean, because, I mean, I think he does control his own narrative by doing that. But still, man, Meeks value is the.

[Mal]

The podcast. The podcast fan base is the smartest fan base out there.

[Damaris]

And they're depends on which podcast you're talking about.

[Mal]

Just the overall, the podcast fan bases. I think of higher intellect and can smell the quicker than most fan bases because they listen for longer, they pay attention. It's different than just listening to some quick radio shit or watching a movie, whatever. If Meek gets Michael Rubin on there to talk about owning your masters or some like cliche business plan just because he can get Get Michael Rubin. The podcast fan base he thinks he's gonna grab is gonna laugh at it. That's because the surface he thinks he can maybe get to is already in the podcast market now at a way higher level. I don't think the podcast fan base needs to hear about owning your masters or being independent or what Michael Rubin's business plan is. It just isn't gonna really connect, you see?

[Damaris]

And that's the problem right there. I think that he needs to spend less time. Nothing against Michael Rubin, but spend less time with Michael Rubin and start spending more time with Rick Rubin.

[Mal]

That's funny.

[Damaris]

You understand what I'm saying? Like, I think that's because Rick Rubin, he tells you, I don't know about, you know, technology and all this. I don't play instruments. I just know what feels good. Meek needs to be around people that are proven in the world of music that just know when the music feels good. Simple. Like, just focus on that. Change who's in the room when you're creating things like that. Sit down with different people. I mean, always handle your business and, you know, shout out to Michael Rubin. But I think spend less time there and more time focusing on the sound and the feel of your music.

[Mal]

Nah, he can't be near Rick Rubin.

[Damaris]

Why?

[Mal]

Cause Rick Rubin has this ability to make something you say that's not deep almost sound deep just because he has long hair. Like, he'll be like. So the Rollie is actually just for motivational. It's not. You didn't buy it for you, Meek. You bought it to motivate us. Oh, my Ramik. This is it. That's how I think Rick Rubin is gonna look at his music. He's gonna make something deep when it doesn't need to be deep.

[Damaris]

Nah, I don't think that's fun. I don't think it's that. But I think he just needs to spend more time focusing on. On. On just the music Man.

[Mal]

Before we close, though, does he owe us an apology if he wants to get in the media space?

[Damaris]

Why?

[Mal]

He's one of multiple rappers that clowned all of us for having podcasts. Well, I mean, early on, breakfast clubs have podcasts. You know, streets don't care about podcasts. Every. He's not one of maybe 10 rappers. I can think of that. Clown podcasting and then try to get into it.

[Damaris]

I mean, but that's. That's always part of it. Like people clown stuff. And then when they see it's lucrative and. And, you know, it's how much Money is in it. And then you can control your own narrative. You have your own voice. And, you know, then feelings and emotions and things change. I don't. I don't put much into that. That happened. That's part of everything in life. Like, it is what it is.

[Mal]

No, if I clown something publicly and I want to go do it, I'm going to start with, yo, I was wrong.

[Damaris]

I mean, I guess everybody's integrity.

[Rory]

I also don't think that many people know that me clown. Like, I don't think people retain that.

[Damaris]

No, no. Not only that, people don't care. No one gives a nobody.

[Mal]

I'm saying us as podcasts. I don't know that. Pay attention to it.

[Rory]

We did. I don't know that until you just said it.

[Mal]

Listen, I've been in this game for a long time.

[Julian]

You came in this game as a.

[Rory]

Hater, as a potter, as an overlord.

[Mal]

I've been over to this pod since 2015. All right.

[Julian]

So, Rory, I want to know if you still standing on business on your stupid ass take you made which one that the clock is on for Sexy Red when she's about to have Song of the Summer.

[Damaris]

Hey, we gotta stop doing that.

[Rory]

So many songs of the summer.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, we gotta stop.

[Julian]

I haven't named one song of the summer.

[Damaris]

I'm not talking about you. I'm just saying, like, in general, we gotta stop hearing the record before the summer and be like, song of the Summer.

[Mal]

Well, now is the time that starts the song of the Summer. We're in that.

[Damaris]

That.

[Mal]

That second quarter era where we start.

[Rory]

To decide what's the song.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't even know the song.

[Julian]

Get It Sex. You ever seen that?

[Mal]

The.

[Julian]

Get a sexy. Where do y'all be at?

[Mal]

I saw. I saw a rolling loud clip. Was that. Did she premiere it there?

[Julian]

Not even just her song. It's the. It's the song with all the dance videos. People have been connecting it to old.

[Damaris]

Like, not on Tik Tok.

[Julian]

It's not about Tik Tok. I haven't seen.

[Mal]

I don't support ch.

[Damaris]

Where dance videos at that Twitter.

[Julian]

They've been on Twitter. They've been on Instagram. Elliot won't stop posting them. Like, the young boys is in there.

[Rory]

Well, if Elliot's posting them.

[Mal]

The young. What are the young boys doing to it?

[Julian]

Their d. It's. She has a dance that goes to it. It's reminiscent of, like, the crank that yank or like, all of those type of old dances. She has a dance that goes with it not at her rolling out performance. I will pull up, like, I will go on her page.

[Rory]

No, wait. Just since we're on Sexy Red, her singing is sis's part is the funniest clip. I love see us over the weekend.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[Mal]

I thought it was hilarious. That's her personality.

[Rory]

She's hilarious.

[Mal]

That's perfect.

[Julian]

Because I don't, like, know what the.

[Rory]

That's so funny.

[Damaris]

All right, I'm with y'all. This is funny.

[Julian]

Funny.

[Mal]

I with personality is great.

[Damaris]

Great personality.

[Mal]

Please get that off.

[Damaris]

But no, this. Well, but how.

[Julian]

No, go ahead. Get your off.

[Mal]

Were you distracted by what. What looked like a vagina on the screen?

[Damaris]

No, that was my favorite Enderman's cake. I know what that is. Okay.

[Mal]

Vagina.

[Damaris]

I just. I think Sexyy Red is dope. I think she. She's. Her personality is great. I think she's gonna have a bigger career outside of music than she does with music just because of her personality. But can you understand how, like, some of the more talented female rappers would look at Sexyy Red and how many people champion and push her and support her and be like, what the fuck?

[Mal]

I mean, probably same goes for male rappers too, of the bullshit that they push as opposed to people that have talent. I. I still stand by. The clock is on. I don't think the clock is on for her as far as a human.

[Damaris]

Being, for all of us. But how much time? Every day it's how much time closer.

[Mal]

To being stuffed by.

[Damaris]

Right?

[Mal]

What are they called again? Taxes.

[Rory]

Yo.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Would you do that with a family member?

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Remember that trend that was going on for a while at funerals where they would dress them up and do like a club, right? Like, prop the dead body up and like, put it. Put a bottle of Casamigos in his hand?

[Mal]

I don't think it was a trend. I think it's still going on.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, that's still. That's still happening.

[Mal]

It slowed down because of COVID but after that I think it ramped back up. Back up.

[Damaris]

They had somebody during COVID because you couldn't have funerals. So they had like the body propped up, like at a drive through. And like, I'm. I think I'm joking. You can pull that up and look at it. It was a drive thru funeral and the body was like, propped up like.

[Rory]

One of my favorite covenant was what?

[Damaris]

A drive thru funeral.

[Rory]

Remember when. Remember when the pope was squirting holy water on the baby's foreheads with a squirt gun? Because he didn't want to touch anyone.

[Mal]

Could have been worse.

[Rory]

He had a squirt gun. He was shooting kids in the face with a squirt gun.

[Damaris]

He probably shoot.

[Rory]

I was gonna say better than what he used. The rest of his staff.

[Mal]

Yeah. I thought, finally we got this guy under control.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Rory]

At least it's water, right?

[Mal]

Damaris, My stupid ass take. I still am on my stupid ass take. I think that's song. If you say it's gonna be song in the summer, I believe you. I think she'll be around.

[Julian]

I think it's a. A very strong contender. I think that. And Gaglow. Very strong contender. Have y'all heard the song?

[Mal]

Which one?

[Damaris]

I heard Sexy Red.

[Julian]

Song did get a sexy.

[Rory]

I'm sure it sounds like the other ones.

[Mal]

Do you think she puts out an album and is successful?

[Damaris]

The album.

[Mal]

If they want to keep giving her great records that show her personality, she'll be around and then end up doing something outside of it.

[Damaris]

This is. I think this is the new blueprint for artists, though.

[Mal]

It's been that way, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

As far as just putting out singles.

[Damaris]

Just put out singles. Do features, like. Because now it's like, again, you drop an album, people listen to it for a couple weeks, maybe a month if it's really good. And then after that, you don't even hear nobody speaking on it.

[Mal]

How does this transition? Damaris, like, let's say my take is extremely stupid and she's gonna be here forever. How does it switch, like, once her fan base becomes 27, like, she's a Republican.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Oh, she's a big trumpy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Nobody ever said she was gonna be here forever, though. No. I don't think anybody in this climate, in this music climate is going to be here forever.

[Rory]

No. She's like Lauryn Hill, but I think.

[Julian]

She'S going to last longer than what people think, and she has lasted longer than.

[Mal]

She's lasted longer than I thought. So I. I stand corrected there. For sure.

[Damaris]

You didn't hear Julie.

[Julian]

Yeah, we did.

[Damaris]

He said she's like Lauryn Hill.

[Mal]

No, I heard. I just ignored it.

[Rory]

I think you guys are sleeping on Sexy, right? I think she's here to stay. I don't know.

[Damaris]

Her personality is before Sexy Red. Her personality is here.

[Julian]

Julian. Are you able to have a conversation without being an.

[Rory]

It's really difficult, but, like, it's just.

[Mal]

Do you ever fight that urge, though? I deal with it, but I fight the urge a lot.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's, like, part of being, like, human, Julian. Like, we all want to be assholes 24 7.

[Rory]

Nah, I mean, this is the future of hip hop. This is hip hop.

[Mal]

You're being sarcastic, but he said something.

[Rory]

No, I'm. I'm not.

[Mal]

Your condescending tone, unfortunately, is. Is correct.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

This is the future of hip hop.

[Mal]

So, yeah, I think she'll be around here for this business model. Sure. They do rolling loud every other week. I'm sure she'll headline all the time.

[Damaris]

Listen, man, there's a place.

[Mal]

But then what?

[Damaris]

Girls want to shake ass, they want to throw ass.

[Julian]

Like, it's not. Y'all keep saying girls want to shake ass. Girls want to throw ass. Like. Like, Sexyy Red doesn't even. I think Sexyy Red's fan base is more younger teens and young and a lot of young boys than it is girls.

[Damaris]

What do young.

[Julian]

She doesn't really make twerk music. She makes some twerk music, but the majority of her music is like hood gangsta shit.

[Rory]

She kind of reminds me of the Yin Yang twins.

[Damaris]

I could see that.

[Julian]

That's. That's the type.

[Mal]

I'm kind of following what you said.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's the type of music she makes. She doesn't just make, like, at least, like, girls don't hear Sexyy Red and be like, oh, I want to shake ass.

[Damaris]

The Sexy Red girls hear anything and shake ass.

[Julian]

True.

[Damaris]

But, like, they're not doing the fucking waltz.

[Julian]

That's not a Sexy Red song. It's a Drake song.

[Mal]

Yeah, but it's a Sexy Red song. They shake their ass at the hook that she does. That's what they play outside.

[Julian]

But there's a. Anyway, like I was saying, there's a dance to go with this song.

[Rory]

This is like a real long dance.

[Julian]

No, that's just her dancing. But the beginning part that she was doing with the football player boy, like, that's like a dance becoming, like a thing. Yeah.

[Mal]

Her personality is going to carry everything. That's. To me, that's the business model. So as far as they want to take her personality is as far as I think she'll go career wise. I don't think music is going to be the end all. Be all for her.

[Damaris]

How long before.

[Mal]

By the end of the year.

[Damaris]

How long before Sexy Reds reality show? Cuz it's coming.

[Mal]

I can see it.

[Damaris]

It's definitely coming.

[Julian]

They would have a big bag for her to do a reality show. They would have to pay her a pretty big bag.

[Mal]

I mean, listen, they got.

[Damaris]

They got these platforms. Got it.

[Mal]

To give her Adam 22 kicked down the door. As far as doing a reality show of who's gonna. His wife. I could see Sexy Red doing who's gonna be my baby daddy show and then actually have to get pregnant by the winner. We've reached that point in life.

[Damaris]

That could happen then that could happen. But I don't think that will. Yeah, I don't think it's Sexy Red though. But that you not. You're not wrong.

[Mal]

You don't think. You think that's out of Sexy Red's wheelhouse a little bit?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I mean, because she's in a relationship with her fake. But not only that, she's in a relationship with her. Her baby. Her current baby father. Right? Yes. I don't see her like doing that. No. But we've seen reality shows where people are looking for love and find love and have family. So it's not. It happened. But you're saying directly going to it, like, who wants to be my next?

[Mal]

I guess what I'm saying is it's getting. Whether people want to admit it or not, tough for Cardi to some degree right now. We think Sexyy Red is gonna be okay.

[Damaris]

Tough for Cardi.

[Mal]

What, to catch one?

[Damaris]

A record?

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm not here to shit on Cardi, but Cardi. Cardi.

[Rory]

No, I know, but he's saying.

[Julian]

But he's. It's getting tougher to catch one. I'm like, she caught one.

[Damaris]

Y.

[Julian]

Then the last one was a caught and then the last one was a caught. So like, it's not getting tough for her to catch one. It's tough for Cardi to catch one.

[Mal]

I thought the freestyle was a good promo.

[Julian]

You're talking about sexy.

[Mal]

I'm saying it's tough for Cardi right now. Cardi caught 15 ones and it's tough for her. Now look at the longevity. It's been what, five years? And it's tough for one of the biggest artists, period. Forget female or male. We think Sexy Red is going to be able to maintain it if Cardi B is having.

[Rory]

Cuz she currently just caught another one.

[Mal]

I know, but she's in the phase of her career that Cardi was with Bodak Yellow. Like she's in the beginning. Yeah, we think she'll be able to maintain when Cardi's having trouble.

[Julian]

No, I don't think that.

[Mal]

When every artist period is having trouble. I just don't think she's going to be the savior that's going to re redo the business model of staying relevant with your music.

[Julian]

No, of course.

[Damaris]

But at the same time, I, I, you know, like, Sexyy Red, she, right now in her career, I. She probably feel like, yo, I didn't think I would be this big or get this far. So this is a win. So anything after this for her is like, okay, that's just on top of like, you know, the cake. Like, all right, cool. But I don't think that Sexyy Red has any intent of, like, being the biggest artist ever or being the big biggest female artist ever. Like, well, maybe I think she's just enjoying the moment and just accepting everything that's coming to her right now. Having. She's having a lot of fucking fun. You know what I'm saying? Like, she has a family, obviously, so.

[Julian]

It'S just like, she's been making music for a long time too. Like, longer than what people think she's been making music music for. Cuz Sexy had a vi. A song go viral. I remember it used to be viral on Twitter. We didn't know who she was, but she did that flip, like, with the guns. That was like. When did that go viral? Like, 2014, 2015. It was a long time ago, but I mean.

[Rory]

Oh, the Vanessa Carlton flip. Yeah, with the guns. That's a great record.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's her.

[Mal]

I mean, when we played the Booty Hole Brown record for the first time.

[Damaris]

On the podcast, that was a masterpiece.

[Rory]

Pound Town.

[Mal]

Pound Town. I was like, guys, this is like the seventh video. Pound Town was like a year old when it popped. She did like seven videos of Pound Town before it really got crazy.

[Rory]

Gotta pound it up.

[Mal]

So, no, I, I respect and I'm not hating on her success. I. I do like her personality. I think she's made fun songs that have purpose in hip hop. For sure. I've had fun to her records with people. It's great. My thing was just the longevity of this strategy for all of music, not just Sexy Red. We're just using her as an example because she's one of the bigger artists that's focused just on the single thing and her personality. Imagine how long is this model gonna. The clock is on for this model is what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Why do we put so much weight in longevity with music?

[Julian]

Yeah, like, imagine if they had podcasts when Lean with a Rock would have came out. Or Crank that came out. There were a bunch of people saying that that wasn't like that. That was. They were destroying hip hop with. With, yeah, snap music too, which is.

[Mal]

What a lot of her stuff happened since the 80s. They were. That's happened in hip hop since its inception. The generation after every single time was killing hip hop.

[Julian]

Yeah, but what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Nelly was killing hip hop. And now we look at Nelly as like a real mc.

[Damaris]

But that's another thing, too. We got to. We. I'm with. I'm with. Not calling a lot of this. Not calling this hip hop.

[Julian]

It is.

[Mal]

It's hip hop, though.

[Julian]

I call a lot of rap and it's not hip hop. I'll say it's rap. It's not hip hop.

[Rory]

Is it hip hop, the derivative of hip hop? It is hip hop now.

[Damaris]

You just changed. See, but it's a derivative. It's. No, I. I don't think so. And I think that. I think that the people that were some of the creators of hip hop would agree that this is not hip hop.

[Rory]

No one wants to hear that early hip hop.

[Damaris]

That's nobody, nobody saying nobody say, you want to hear that. There was hip hop way after that. That was still hip hop.

[Rory]

Look, there can be a.

[Damaris]

There's still. There are still people that are currently still putting out hip hop.

[Rory]

There can be a golden era of something, but it doesn't negate the other forms of it that also exist.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying negate anything. I'm just saying, like this. We just need again, start identifying what things are and putting them in their proper perspective. That's all I'm saying.

[Mal]

But the way, like rock and roll.

[Damaris]

You can't give me Italian food and be like, yo, this is. This is Chinese.

[Mal]

Well, they both have noodles.

[Rory]

Neuters.

[Damaris]

Still. It's not Chinese food.

[Mal]

But the way rock and roll expanded where they had to make subcategories after it got so big. I think hip hop's in the same realm as that. Like, there's punk rock. There's all different types of rock and roll. I think hip hop is the same thing. That's trap, that's underground. That's real hip hop. I think it's all within the same.

[Rory]

Thing is why do we always play so much, so much like value in longevity? The world changes. Things are supposed to change. Things are supposed to evolve.

[Mal]

You're asking why I want to champion longevity in music?

[Rory]

I'm. It's just not. But that's not common place. Like, look at the history of hip hop. How many phases we've had. Like, we're looking for something that's never existed.

[Julian]

And some of our most classic, like, what's.

[Rory]

What's the longest era in hip hop.

[Julian]

Yeah, some of our most classic songs and Eras of hip hop, especially with.

[Mal]

Us n just put out three albums.

[Julian]

Not everybody is Nas.

[Rory]

What two people have been making good music for the. For the entirety of the genre. I'm saying hip hop has gone through so many phases and they. Some longer than others, they come and go. But that's. That's the nature of music. That's just how this works. Why do I put so much weight on?

[Damaris]

Like, I think I always champion longevity. I'm not saying just music. Like I said, I think that Sexyy Red is gonna have. She's gonna be around for a while. Because even if it's not music, her personality is gonna keep her around for a very long time.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So whether she moves into tv, film, you know what I mean, talk show, whatever it is, I think that her personality is going to warrant her longevity. Now, she may not be putting out hit songs and going, you know, things like that, that too much longer, but I think that her Sexyy Red, she is going. Her personality is going to keep her around for a very long time.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So longevity, I also don't see what's.

[Damaris]

Wrong with a thing to champion.

[Mal]

I think that's the main problem with hip hop is not championing longevity. Like continue to contribute to the genre.

[Damaris]

Not hip hop music. Music has turned into a lick. It's a hustle, it's a. Let me get lit here so I can do this thing over here. Like, let me get a viral moment, let me get a viral record, let me, you know, get a bunch of streams here and then I can go and do this thing. Like, people started using the music as a vehicle to really get to where they. Which is. I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. You know what I'm saying? I think that still you need integrity in everything that you do. But I understand this era, in this generation of how quickly things could happen for you. Like, even we go back to. To Bryson Tiller, when his record took off, when his song took off, he was still, I think, working at a pizza spot when that record took off and he was like, yo, I didn't even have too much other songs done. Like when that song took off. And now people looking at me like, oh, we need an album. He's like, what the fuck? So he was doing something where it was like, he didn't know it was gonna pop for him. But now, obviously he's had longevity. He's been around for a while. He's been able to put out good songs, good albums. Like, you know, it could take off to you. But a lot of people now, they use it as just. I don't even care about this shit. Like I just want a quick lick and then let me go and do this other thing.

[Mal]

I just think it's the most important thing to hip hop culture is longevity. My crazy life by yg turned 10 longevity or integrity? Well, it's. I mean, is there integrity anywhere? I know longevity.

[Rory]

I just.

[Mal]

If you. If you want to put integrity into hip hop, that's a. A tough thing to put into. If you really want to get down.

[Rory]

To all your favorites killed each other, you should put in that. You should put integrity.

[Damaris]

You should put integrity into anything that you're creating, into anything that you're doing.

[Mal]

Well, that would depend on your definition of integrity.

[Damaris]

There's only one definition of integrity.

[Rory]

What? The one where you set up your mans and then, you know, like the. The hip hop, it's so. It's such a selfish sport. There's so little integrity in this. I think the place that above all is like, what are we talking about?

[Mal]

No, inte. Integrity can be a perception. Like let's use Sexy Red for example. I don't think it's bad, the stuff she talks about or you know, shakes her ass. All the. That people could say like, how could you do that as a woman, have some integrity. I think she has integrity. I don't think her doing that takes away from her integrity. But some people would think as a woman you should have some integrity and not. Not speak that way, move that way, dance that way. Like integrity is a perception. It really is.

[Julian]

But that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't know about that one.

[Julian]

So, Mark, would you like me to rapping about?

[Mal]

I mean, it's. It's definitely a way bigger systematic conversation. But you could say glorifying selling drugs to a community does not have much integrity in it.

[Julian]

Exactly. It does.

[Damaris]

You could sell drugs with integrity.

[Mal]

Senseless violence. People could say, of course it comes.

[Damaris]

From a place that sell drugs with integrity.

[Rory]

Yeah, just not to your family, everyone else's.

[Damaris]

No, but you can sell drugs with integrity is what I'm saying.

[Julian]

Explain that to me.

[Rory]

So you're talking about from the business side.

[Mal]

Yeah, from the business side.

[Rory]

Yeah, of course.

[Mal]

But at the end of the day, you're still poisoning people.

[Rory]

I think we're talking less about integrity and this is more into the morality side of things.

[Damaris]

There's poisoning shit that you eat every day that you support.

[Julian]

Okay. They don't have any integrity either. Either. I don't think Whole Foods has integrity with integrity.

[Rory]

At least those things are FDA approved.

[Damaris]

At least.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You put that little sticker on there.

[Mal]

The highest formula that you feel like.

[Damaris]

Let you feel like somebody.

[Rory]

Dog.

[Damaris]

Let you feel like somebody with a lab coat, like, looked over it before they sold it to you. Put that little FDA stick on there.

[Mal]

I mean, once you get into selling certain lifestyles, integrity is. You can move with integrity, but the overall thing you're doing is. Doesn't happen to integrity.

[Rory]

Integrity.

[Julian]

Integrity. The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles. Moral uprightness.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's more. It's very morality centered, I think.

[Mal]

I think there can be a big.

[Damaris]

You can absolutely sell drugs with integrity.

[Mal]

I think there can be a redemption quality in ending it and realizing what you did was wrong and you were put in a position that you kind of had no other choice. I understand it. But without the redemption part, is there any integrity? Integrity that's kind of like what people are giving Meek a lot of for. When he's talking about prison reform and squashing beefs, and then he goes on. On the radar and talks about just shooting ops, spinning the block. Like, there needs to be some consistency in this integrity.

[Damaris]

But this. But, yeah, but that's. Again, that's the art.

[Mal]

I understand.

[Damaris]

Like, you know, you can't. We're not sitting down talking about Denzel killing a bunch of people in Equalizer and saying he's a bad person. Like, that's art. It's a move. You can't hold rappers. You can't hold rappers to that and say, oh, he's talking about this in his music.

[Julian]

Like, yes, you can.

[Damaris]

Without holding. If Denzel walking here, you ain't like, yo, that's fucked up what you did in Equalizing.

[Julian]

Because it's. Because this is. It depends on who the audiences is. If this was 30, 40 years ago and we didn't know the repercussions and the effects that rap has, especially violent rap has on these young children's minds and how they look up to these celebrities and idolize these celebrities. If we didn't. If it was 40 years ago, 50 years ago, and we didn't know those ramifications, then we can say, okay, this is different, because we didn't expect that at this point. You know, I know both of them know how these little kids look up to these drill rappers and how they idolize them and how it affects the way that they move throughout this world. So you can sit up here and say, oh, it's just the art form, and use that as a cop out. If you're really good at your art. Use a different type of art form.

[Damaris]

What you're saying is that's killing, Shooting, homicides, murders. That's something that has been happening. Hip hop is only 50 or something old. Murders, killings, and all that has been happening way before hip hop even was thought of. Okay, so just because this genre is.

[Julian]

Time, that these younger boys are way worse than the.

[Damaris]

The.

[Julian]

The generations before them. You say that on time.

[Damaris]

Absolutely.

[Julian]

Why do you think that that is? You don't think that that has anything to do with the inception of drill music and how violent music has gotten and how accessible?

[Damaris]

I'm not. I'm not saying it doesn't. What I'm saying is I'm not going to sit here and say, oh, because an artist talks about this like he's doing something wrong, like that's adding poison to our community. I'm not gonna say that. Now. I do at the same time see the influence that music has. Music had an influence on me. I started experimenting with smoking weed and drinking 40s and shit like that just off of the shit I was listening to. That's how I was introduced to that shit. I didn't know anything about that, but at the same time, I still had my own. I wasn't a follower. You understand what I'm saying? So I think a lot of the times it's. Who is doing these things? These are kids that are lost. They're just looking for identity. They're trying to find themselves they don't have.

[Julian]

But those are. Those are damn near all. If once you get. Are under the age of, I want to say, like 16, that is damn near all kids. All kids are lost. And look.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but no, but all kids. All kids are not without foundation. A lot of these kids like, that are doing dumb, come from great homes, great families, like. Like, they're just following. So. But I'm not gonna blame that solely on music. That would be unfair to the artist. Like, because I said something, you mean to tell me I caused four homicides in the city because I said something in a song last week that's unfair to put that on the artist.

[Julian]

Oh, all the time. Not to interrupt you, but all the time you say on this podcast, I have to use my platform responsibly. I have to be careful what I say because I know that I have a reach. So if you're making millions and millions and millions of dollars off of these kids, no matter whether it's just you, whether it's a hundred rappers and it's like oh, well, they're all talking about the same things too. You are participating in a culture and you are contributing, and you got to eat that. It might not feel good and you might have to look and say, hey, I'm making millions. I'm feeding my family, I'm helping my family out the hood. But you are contributing to a problem. It's the same shit with recycling. I can sit up there and go throw a bottle on the ground and say, oh, but this, my one little bottle isn't going to cause real harm in the world. But I am still contributing to the problem.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but again, very true. But it's not fair to say because an artist is rapping about this type of music that, oh, you're the sole cause of this that's going on in our communities. I can never put that on just the artist. It's a bigger problem.

[Julian]

No, poverty is a problem.

[Damaris]

This is what I'm saying. It's a way bigger problem than just the music and hip hop. Now, again, I'm with you. I've seen it firsthand. I've been a victim of it to a certain degree, of how music can influence and affect your upbringing and you growing up in your environment. 100%. It's the energy that's put out. It's a fucking. It's words. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it gets you people listening to music to get in the zone with the athletes in the locker room. Well, not to kill people.

[Julian]

Niggas put on certain music to go kill people.

[Damaris]

Oh, no. I mean, we've seen even Marines say they was listening to certain songs and shit when they were going in Afghanistan, going, like, looking for Taliban, and they was listening to certain music, like, to get them in that mood. So. But that's what it is. It puts you in the mood. But you have to understand how to separate that like the same. If you go to see a movie. If I see somebody shooting up a whole fucking store in a movie, I'm not gonna be in a movie theater rocking back and forth like, yes, soon as I leave here, I'm going outside to fucking do this same shit that I just like, no, this is not. This is art. This is just creativity. This is how somebody painting a story, painting a picture. I'm not gonna go out here and do that because that's the words that I'm listening to. It's just a difference in being able to associate yourself with art and music and then say, okay, I wanna be like that. I wanna do that. That's the problem. Like, a lot of these kids are just lost souls. Like, they're lost on heavy drugs, fucked up family situation, fucked up living situation, poverty. Like you said, no education. It's a bigger problem than just saying, oh, this drill rapper is the reason, like. Cause a lot of these drill rappers are really just rapping about the shit that they seeing. Not that they're necessarily doing, but the shit that's going on in their environments. Their homeboy just got killed, you know what I'm saying? Or their cousin was killed and things like that growing up wherever. So it's not. You can't just put that on the artist. I think that's unfair. But there's a heavy influence on music in the culture and what goes on in our neighborhoods because it is divorced voice of the people from these communities.

[Julian]

Yeah. And I'm not just being. I'm not just being hard on. And we could get off this because it's depressing as. But I'm not just being hard on hip hop too. I give video games the same amount of smoke for a lot of the shit.

[Mal]

Yeah, we're gonna probably much more.

[Damaris]

We're gonna cancel gta, like, and be like, yo, like, they were.

[Julian]

Weren't they, like, trying to get GTA canceled.

[Damaris]

I can understand why.

[Julian]

I agree.

[Damaris]

You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, it's like we gotta look past just the video game, past just the artist and the rapper, and we gotta look past that and dig deeper, like, what's. What's the root of. Of these problems.

[Mal]

I agree. That was a good, healthy conversation, guys.

[Damaris]

It's always good to have healthy conversation.

[Mal]

Love a nice little After School special.

[Damaris]

I'm talking some jokes.

[Julian]

Yeah, funny.

[Mal]

No, I really enjoyed the conversation. I'm serious. Yeah, I thought that was great. But back to your point of saying, like, the female rappers that can actually rap. Looking at Sexyy Red. I do think there is a balance that we need to pay attention to. Flo, Millie, who we've loved for quite some time. I love. You could say that the machine pushed the button, but she's been putting in work for what, seven years now. I love that Cardi and SZA hopped on that remix. The song is incredible, and I think it's her time. She can really rap. She's one of those. So I. I think there is still a good balance. As much as I shit on current hip hop and what I think is more of a business model than it is a music model, you still get people like Flo Millie getting the looks they deserve to have. Sza and Cardi on a remix.

[Julian]

Shout out to Kellen, shout out to rca.

[Damaris]

But that's great. Look for Flo Milli. I mean, anytime you can get a record with Carti and Sza, I mean, that's, you know, that's the top of the top. But is that another way for. Like you said earlier, Cardi is having trouble catching one. Is this another way for her to stay relevant? Yeah, stay in the, in, in the ears.

[Rory]

100% for sure.

[Julian]

SZA's on it. SZA doesn't have a problem with any relevancy. So why.

[Damaris]

But I'm, I'm just. I'm just speaking about Cardi in particular. Like, because artists will do that even though they're big. This is also put out an album even though they.

[Rory]

Well, that part that's still charting.

[Damaris]

But even though they're big, it's like they'll hear. Because to me, this is again great for Flo Milli. Cause this is you talking about Carti and fucking Scissors, two of the biggest fucking artists. But this is to me another way of. If an artist is signed to how we had the conversation of one of the biggest artists, right? And that artist goes in the studio just to hear what you're working on. And here's like, oh, shit, like you got a record. This is really just a cool way of saying, yo, let me get that, Let me hop on. I need a verse on that.

[Mal]

But that's. It's been happening in hip hop forever.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.

[Mal]

I think it's a back to our longevity conversation. I think it's a beautiful way for young artists and legacy acts to use each other 100%.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying hove the did it. Drake does it, everybody does it. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it. I'm just saying that that is essentially what this is. Here's this artist that's on the rise on the come up Making some noise, Caught a Record, has a really dope record. Artists that are already established hear that record and like, nah, I need to eat on that. I need a verse on that. If Flo Millie was signed to Cardi or Sza, we may not have even heard this record. I'm just saying that that's how you're.

[Mal]

Saying it would have went to what.

[Damaris]

It would have went to. The bigger artist it would have went to. This would have just been a Cardi record. If she was signed to Cardi If Cardi had a label. If she was signed to Scissors.

[Julian]

No. Cause Billy is such a completely different artist than maybe.

[Damaris]

Actually, I tell you, that's how things happen. This is not like a guest. That's how things.

[Julian]

I understand that, but it also has to match the artist we were talking about literally on our last conversation about Drake and how he handles his art artist. The artists on his label usually make music like him. This Flo Millie song.

[Damaris]

This could be a Cardi record.

[Julian]

This could not be a Cardi record. It could be a Scissor record. This would not be no Cardi record.

[Damaris]

Of course this could be a Scissor record because she's basically singing. This could be a Cardi record. This could absolutely be a Cardi record.

[Julian]

Can you find me a Cardi record that sounds anything like this?

[Damaris]

Cardi has songs where she's singing on some of the song.

[Mal]

Song with sza.

[Damaris]

What are we talking about?

[Mal]

Envision. Envisioning prophecy.

[Julian]

It's not just about the singing. It's about the way that the song is like. This isn't a Cardi rapper record. It just isn't.

[Damaris]

So why is Cardi on the record?

[Julian]

It's a good feature. It's cute. It's a different. It's a remix. Like, it's not like it's just a regular song. It's a remix. So, yes, you switch the song up a little bit, but it does. It just doesn't sound like a Cardi record. I don't think that's a big crazy thing to say.

[Damaris]

If Flo Millie. If Cardi B had a record label and Flo Millie was an artist that she signed, I can guarantee you that if Cardi walked in this session and heard that record, this would be a Cardi B record.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Guarantee you that.

[Julian]

Disagree.

[Damaris]

That's how it happens. Like, it always happens.

[Mal]

Like, I could see it as Cardi featuring Flo Mill. I think they would.

[Damaris]

However you want to chop it, it would be on a Cardi B project or. Or it would be released as a Cardi B record is what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Well, I think it's great that Cardi is, I guess. I guess helping Fl Millie, but again, she's been working for so long.

[Damaris]

This is definitely Cardi and says a helping.

[Mal]

I mean, this is a RCA move. I think RCA wanted to remix a record that's already popping and got Sza, who's on rca. I'm sure she liked it and fucks with Flo Milli. I'm sure they have a relationship and Then got a Cardi after that. Because Cardi is, to your point, hopping on things to be next to what's hot at the time, which I don't think there's any fault in that.

[Damaris]

That's part of the game. That's part of the game. That's what I'm saying. If. If this. If this was an artist signed to one of these ladies, this could easily have been one of their records. 100 scissor. We don't. We know. This would have been a scissor song. This sounds like a scissor record.

[Mal]

Yeah, it does.

[Damaris]

You know what I'm saying? But Cardi, I could see Cardi taking this. And like you said, even if she kept flow on it, if that was her artist, this would be a Cardi song, is what I'm saying.

[Mal]

But even to that point, like, I'm sure an A R heard that record at rca. They didn't send it to Sza Flo. Millie kept it. They're on the same label. That is similar to what you're saying.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I'm talking about being signed directly to. To that artist, not being label mates. Being signed directly to that artist. Yeah, that's a total different thing. Totally different thing. But one of my candidates for a song of the summer, this Slow Millie record.

[Mal]

I like it.

[Damaris]

Definitely one of my candidates.

[Julian]

Do you like the remix?

[Damaris]

I like the remix. I like it.

[Mal]

Yeah, I like it too.

[Damaris]

I like the remix a lot. The video's dope. Like, I like it.

[Mal]

And staying in music, it was a. It was a cool new music for I Friday. I felt like we can stay in longevity and legacy. My. My partner in crime, man in the woods. Did he come out of the woods?

[Damaris]

Yeah, we might have to.

[Mal]

Justin Timberlake.

[Damaris]

We might have to forgive Justin for that man in the woods album.

[Julian]

And, oh, this album was that good.

[Damaris]

Act like it never. I mean, it's a lot better than man in the woods, so we might have to forgive Justin. Might be. He might be slowly working his way back into our good graces and a spot at the Thanksgiving dinner table, for sure.

[Mal]

Should I have some White Hate?

[Damaris]

White Hate? I love White Hate, so absolutely. I love when y'all hate on each other.

[Mal]

The album confused me. It was a roller coaster of me liking it and me also thinking it was the worst thing ever, really. The first record, Memphis, I was like, okay. This was like when Usher tried to make that future album, I was like, what the fuck?

[Damaris]

All right.

[Mal]

Justin was in the woods. Now he's just trying to find records. That should have went to Drake. I was very nervous. I hate the intro.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

It would be a great song for someone else. Justin trying to match what's going on right now was awful.

[Damaris]

Okay. It's always a little weird when the legacy artists try to catch the current sound.

[Mal]

And maybe that's short sighted and maybe, in my opinion, maybe they should try to do that for longevity, but I think it sucks.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It started out slow. Technicolor, I think, could be ranked in Justin's top 15 catalog. That's how good color that record is. Insane. Drown was like they were trying to recreate the old Justin. That's what a lot of this album feels like. The Justin that we loved with Timberland. They tried. They tried to recreate.

[Damaris]

They gave us glimpses of it.

[Mal]

They tried to recreate. It's like since they brought him out.

[Damaris]

The woods, it's like seeing Stockton and Malone pick and roll. It's like, okay, yeah. Still not as quick as it used to be, but it okay.

[Mal]

And some landed. Some landed really good and some didn't at all. There was like, there's really no gray area in this album. It's either they nailed it or they did or they didn't at all. Like the Usher album. There's stuff that, like, I'm like, ah, that's cool. That's really great. Not for me. This one is either nailed it.

[Damaris]

I hate that.

[Mal]

Or get the out of here.

[Damaris]

Is it big? Is that the. I hate that record.

[Julian]

Really?

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. I hate that record. I wish I never heard that record.

[Julian]

You hate it that much?

[Damaris]

He said, when I used to go to McDonald's, I would never order the small. I would always do it big. What is that?

[Mal]

I don't ever want to hear pen game crazy.

[Damaris]

All right, Damaris. Go back to what you were saying, Rory.

[Mal]

I mean, one of the best records on there. I think the writing is insane. I'm. We don't need to leave. I'm the party. I don't know why, girl, I'm the party. It's a good song.

[Damaris]

I don't give a. What y'all talking about sucks. Y'all crazy. That song. That's a dope record.

[Mal]

I don't ever want to hear a 46 year old tell a girl to stay in because I am the party. That sounds like something Will Ferrell would say when he walked into, like a stepbrother scene. First of all, that's what that sounds like.

[Damaris]

First of all, Usher's not 46. Number one.

[Mal]

47.

[Damaris]

No, he's what is wrong with you?

[Rory]

45.

[Mal]

That's all right.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

He said 46. You tried to. Come on. That's not. It's not a year.

[Mal]

I was a year off.

[Damaris]

Usher's 45.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I thought he was, like, 43. 44.

[Rory]

He's the party.

[Damaris]

Oh, I didn't know she was 45.

[Julian]

He looks good for his age.

[Damaris]

Look. Kidding me.

[Mal]

I'd be too far.

[Rory]

Can I say I'm gay?

[Damaris]

Whoa. Yeah. That was.

[Mal]

No, like, the beats on the album. The beats on the album were really good.

[Damaris]

Okay, okay. All right.

[Mal]

Like, I'd like to play a beat.

[Rory]

No, but you like to get. Yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, my God. You would never be a fly.

[Mal]

I'd love to be a fly on the session. Yes, I would. I'd be so scared.

[Damaris]

Let's get back to it.

[Mal]

Especially if. How. How amazing.

[Rory]

Fly in the wall. I'd be a man on his knees.

[Mal]

I'd be Kiki Palmer.

[Julian]

We almost made it through this episode with y without y'all being AGs.

[Damaris]

Like, y'all keep telling y'all, it's 23. I'm being progressive.

[Rory]

Said AGs.

[Damaris]

I like that. Like, Uggs, it's pretty good.

[Mal]

I don't want to sit here and. On everything. I thought it was. I think it is great. But, like, when you get stuff like this, dude, like, I don't need the world does not need Justin Timberlake's Afrobeat record.

[Damaris]

Nah. Black women love when.

[Rory]

Simba Brand's African Child.

[Mal]

Classic record, by the way.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He was a African space Christ.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's a great record.

[Mal]

Yo, that movie is really underrated. And I know we're. We're not Team Puff, but he killed that role. Yeah. There's just moments in there that I just think RCA was like, well, he's back. Let's get him on some. Let's get him on some Afro beats.

[Rory]

They should just put him in blackface.

[Mal]

The record with NSYNC is incredible. Paradise is so good. I love that. That's, like, the way NSYNC came back. What?

[Damaris]

You should have put him in blackface. What is he.

[Mal]

I. I don't. Listen.

[Damaris]

Okay, sorry.

[Mal]

You caught the Lauren Hills. I don't.

[Damaris]

All right, I gotta. I gotta pick that up from you.

[Mal]

I didn't even hear him say that.

[Damaris]

All right, there you go. Right? Cool.

[Mal]

No, they. I mean, once he went in the woods, it was like invisible Blackface.

[Damaris]

Got you.

[Mal]

It's cool.

[Damaris]

The album, it's just cool. Is it better than man in the Woods?

[Mal]

I Don't know.

[Damaris]

N. It's better than man in the Woods. Don't do that.

[Mal]

Man in the Wood.

[Damaris]

All right.

[Mal]

At least they committed. I'll put it this way. I don't like man in the Woods.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

At least they committed.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

They committed in man in the Woods. They went full fledged. And that's what the we're going to do this one felt like. We're committing to trying to make Justin what he was before when he was a pop star that the whites and blacks loved. And I think they missed more than they hit. But when they hit, hands down, some of the best music.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Even in the video, Technicolor is so good.

[Damaris]

That's a great record.

[Rory]

It looks like they're reminding Justin Timberlake he's Justin Timberlake.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, even this. Even watching this video, currently without sound, it's like he's acting to be himself.

[Mal]

Probably 46, too.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You around the same age as Usher.

[Mal]

Yeah, I would say there.

[Damaris]

Justin. You know what it is with Justin, man? He's. He's always like. He's always trying to.

[Rory]

43.

[Damaris]

He's 43. Oh, wow.

[Rory]

You recently turned 43.

[Damaris]

He's. He's always like the cool spy in all of his views. Like, they try to make him the cool spy. Like, it's like. Like, who is this. Who is this handsome guy walking, like, in a different tempo than everybody else in the room?

[Mal]

And it's always funny that the camera's specifically on him, but no one recognizes him. He always walks through the club undetected.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And then has a.

[Mal]

Even though spotlight is on him.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Then has a one on one with a beautiful woman on the dance floor and then disappears in his Lamborghini.

[Mal]

And I don't care who you are. Like a James Bond movie. It's like Batman, even if you're not famous. If this scenario happened in the club, everyone's gonna stop and look at what they're doing.

[Damaris]

Have you ever been in the club and seen a scenario like this happen where you ever see, like, a guy that doesn't know a girl he just walks up to and starts dancing? That never happens.

[Julian]

It happens.

[Rory]

That was freaky.

[Julian]

I've been that. I've been that girl.

[Rory]

This you, Damaris. Wait, look at.

[Julian]

I've been that girl.

[Damaris]

When have you been that girl, Damaris? I've been that girl. When have you been.

[Julian]

You got a different. You got to go to different type of clubs. Well, you got to go to the clubs when they actually.

[Damaris]

I got to go to a Different type of club.

[Julian]

You got to go to clubs. Dance clubs. Like, where they actually dance.

[Damaris]

They don't dance in clubs no more.

[Julian]

Yes, they do. They have plenty dance clubs.

[Damaris]

Where? Name one in New York.

[Julian]

Well, I don't. I'm older now. I don't really go to clubs.

[Damaris]

I'm older. You're 29. I'm this doing.

[Julian]

When I was 21 years old, licking faces in the.

[Damaris]

You was licking somebody's mouth.

[Julian]

She was tripping.

[Mal]

She was.

[Julian]

See all that.

[Mal]

I love that.

[Julian]

Dancing with the random. Dancing with the random and all that. Like. Yeah, that people really. That's. That actually happens. We don't do that in African American hip hop culture clubs.

[Mal]

No, with the white African American culture clubs. What club sounds like Russell Brand said that?

[Damaris]

What club is African American culture club?

[Rory]

I never can American hip hop.

[Damaris]

Yeah. What the is that? That sounds like a. AAA meeting. Like the African American culture club of society of America.

[Mal]

I think that's the definition of urban.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, what the is that?

[Julian]

They don't. They don't do that at urban club clubs.

[Rory]

Urban. Would they?

[Damaris]

Definitely. All right, so if they not doing that at urban clubs, what club they doing that at?

[Julian]

They do that at the white club. The white people be in there together, dancing with each other, kissing each other randomly on a dance floor. That happens.

[Damaris]

That's because everybody's high on coke.

[Mal]

So as a white, even though we're offbeat, we do enjoy dancing together. We do a lot. We do a lot of dancing.

[Damaris]

I mean, black people, we enjoy dancing together, too.

[Mal]

What? I mean, you guys are great at it. I'm saying we're trash, but we still like it. I didn't think I needed to explain that black people dance. I was trying to explain that white people dance.

[Damaris]

Y'all don't even know Justin called mono. Right there with that girl licking it. See, that's. That's. That's how you catch that mono that you had.

[Rory]

Why are you pointing to me? That mono when I was 17.

[Damaris]

How did you catch it? Girl licked your mouth on the dance floor, right?

[Rory]

Probably something similar.

[Damaris]

Exactly, exactly.

[Mal]

My point is, too, an underrated feeling as. As a youngster, when you were at. At the parties or the clubs, when she dances with you for two and a half songs and then she turns around and keeps dancing with you, you've been chosen for the night.

[Rory]

Oh, once you get that face to.

[Mal]

Face time, like, if she dances two songs, you're like, all right, this could be something. That third song, when she turns around to dance with you. Face to face. You've been like, you're getting pussy.

[Rory]

You get a little OTP agent.

[Damaris]

Yeah. But then you start.

[Mal]

You know that. That feeling of like, oh, I'm gonna get pussy tonight.

[Damaris]

But then you start hating when she start dancing with somebody else. And then you standing there trying to look cool and not dance by yourself. But now you don't want to face phase.

[Rory]

She's not dancing to somebody else.

[Mal]

There was a lot of girls that used to face to face. Every guy in the party.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like, that'll mean that she's with you for the night because she. Face to face.

[Rory]

Then she gives you, like, that over the pants tug, like, in the middle of the club.

[Mal]

The bad thing was the guys that didn't understand that that was just a dub. And, like, awkwardly followed the girl for the rest of the party. Just because y'all dance for that long, she was really just. Just dancing.

[Damaris]

That's it. But that's what I'm saying. Some guys, they see her dance with another guy, and now they, like, mad. Like, you thought that was, like, just your dance partner for the night. She's in a party. Like, she's.

[Mal]

But I'm saying, you know that feeling on the third song Turnaround, and she looks at you and like, you're trouble.

[Julian]

I'm getting not your trouble. You've been outside a little bit too long.

[Damaris]

You're trouble.

[Julian]

You're trouble.

[Damaris]

Your trouble just means she feel you getting hard on her butt. That's all.

[Julian]

And if a.

[Damaris]

If A tell you, no, I'm hard, I'm horny. I'm not trouble.

[Julian]

If a nigga tell you he's trouble, you're trouble. He's married. Married.

[Rory]

I haven't been hard on a butt in a minute, man. I miss those days.

[Damaris]

Because you haven't probably danced. And that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

I miss, like, the dancing days. No one dances like that.

[Damaris]

Now. When we was at the box, you was trying to find one to dance with.

[Rory]

There was none in there.

[Damaris]

Yo, you had to see Julian. Look. Anytime a girl walk past, he started trying to catch the beat a little bit. I'm like, yo, it's not in here tonight.

[Rory]

Next to me licking toes on a perch.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Why are you telling lawyer business?

[Rory]

He's been told this story.

[Damaris]

I don't give a. Fingering a girl.

[Mal]

While dancing at a high school party was like, the purest form of human I think I ever was. That's when I think I was my happiest.

[Rory]

You went home and slept with your finger in your mouth.

[Damaris]

That's sick.

[Mal]

I definitely smelled it.

[Damaris]

You can't make it.

[Mal]

Smelled it and taste it.

[Julian]

Imagination.

[Damaris]

You can't make that up. You can't just create that off the freestyle. A petri dish.

[Mal]

Listen, man, that. That feeling of when she, you know, your hand was close, close. And she gave you that little nudge to push it down.

[Damaris]

You felt that lip that. I don't.

[Rory]

Let me. It just gets warm.

[Mal]

I don't think there's a better feeling.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That warm lip hanging outside of the thong.

[Rory]

A warm lip still heads.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We gotta bring back dancing.

[Damaris]

We gotta bring back warm lips.

[Rory]

Back fingering in club.

[Damaris]

We gotta bring back warm lips. Lips don't be warm no more. That's the problem. See, everybody walking around with these cold coochies. Y'all niggas out here, y'all not getting these coochies warm. Like, it's a lot of cold coochies in the club right now.

[Mal]

When was the last time you ran into a cold. A cold one?

[Damaris]

A cold coochie.

[Mal]

About like, it felt like you reached at the bottom of the cooler.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's like, yo, like, yo, you all right?

[Picasso]

You gotta.

[Rory]

Your women took, like, those hand warmer things that you like, slap to activate and just put them in there.

[Julian]

I had a conversation with a man who complained one time about warm coochie. He said he liked for the. Like the. The snail mucin that comes out to be.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's what. She's ovulating.

[Rory]

Like a necrophiliac. You want to, like.

[Julian]

No, he like. I don't know. He said it was like a. He liked it almost like when somebody.

[Damaris]

Tell that to go buy aloe plant, put it in the fridge, then.

[Rory]

Facts, facts.

[Damaris]

That's what he want. He want a cold piece of aloe plant. Yeah, he want a cold piece of aloe. That's what he don't want. A woman that want a cold aloe. Yeah, he don't want a woman. He want a cold piece of aloe. That's what he want.

[Julian]

He said it's a nice feel every once in a while. Like, not regularly, but the coldness.

[Rory]

Cold pussy is crazy. That means something's wrong. Like, it's supposed to be one of the warmest parts of your body.

[Damaris]

It's literally coming out of your body.

[Mal]

People become. Become such foreplay is done. People are just.

[Damaris]

That's why it's cold.

[Mal]

No one's warming the.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's what it's. Yeah, y'all gotta warm. I gotta warm these coochies. Up get back to foreplay for like 40 minutes.

[Mal]

Is fingering even a thing to this generation?

[Damaris]

Hell. Fingering Hell.

[Julian]

I mean I'm good with fingering. Like leave taking a backseat.

[Damaris]

Why?

[Julian]

It's just. It's not. It's unsanitary. No matter how much you wash your hands. It's just your hands carry a lot of bacteria. Sanitary.

[Damaris]

Your hands carry bacteria.

[Mal]

But if I put my tongue there.

[Damaris]

You think a mouth and a dick don't carry bacteria? Yeah carry more than that.

[Julian]

Your hands. Your hands are probably the dirtiest part of your body.

[Damaris]

I'm not in hell no.

[Julian]

You dick dirtier to your hands.

[Damaris]

Don't play with me like.

[Julian]

Well you said hell no.

[Damaris]

So I'm talking about in general like ain't no dirt star dirty out you. You know with some dirt balls walking.

[Julian]

Around you telling me I know it's like I with dirty.

[Damaris]

I'm not saying you with them but you say them.

[Julian]

They exist for sure.

[Damaris]

Oh they do. They them is everywhere. A dirt B and those are. And A dirty is the most social. He want to be in every girl. It's like you don't see that plaque in your mouth like get out her face.

[Mal]

And if you think about if I wash my hands, what's worse? That or me busting down a chopped cheese in Hennessy and then go to eat your at 2am that's the other thing. My mouth is probably disgusting.

[Rory]

That post club mouth when you've probably just. Well h. Alcohol is a disinfectant. You might have had like.

[Mal]

Yeah but Henny I think has more like. It doesn't disinfect. It can't disinfect itself.

[Rory]

Eating off the satay. You didn't brush your teeth getting your.

[Julian]

Ate by that drink. Regular Hennessy is crazy at this old age.

[Rory]

They out here regular just Hennessy in general.

[Julian]

They have really high like price points for other hennessies that are really good quality. But regular Hennessy.

[Rory]

No, I've been.

[Mal]

I've ate a chick's after sipping E and J and you telling me me washing my hands and fingering be worse N. Straight evil Jesus.

[Julian]

I'm. I'm thinking Paul Mason. Peach. I'm sorry but who that's nasty.

[Rory]

Jesus Disciples.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like that. Is that one of Jesus's disciples? Paul Massad? Who the is Paul Masson?

[Mal]

It was at the end of the last summer.

[Rory]

It's a brandy.

[Mal]

Yeah. You've never had palm before?

[Rory]

Never heard of Paul Mason.

[Damaris]

Oh oh, that's that real. That's that real alky like Only a.

[Julian]

Real al drink that. My uncle and my aunt used to drink it. And one day they spilled it. I remember. I'll never forget this as a kid. They spilled it on her wooden floor, and it took the color out the wood. They never drank it again.

[Rory]

Yeah, just.

[Mal]

That's really what K. Michelle was.

[Damaris]

The wood floor, through the wood.

[Mal]

They were like, oh, no, that's the vsop. K. Michelle was.

[Damaris]

Was really singing about Paul Masson. Nah.

[Mal]

My track coach at St. Peter's name was coach Massone. So we used to. When we were drinking that in college, we used to say we was drinking. Drinking the Coach Mason.

[Damaris]

That's.

[Mal]

We drank in a lot. It was cheap. Yeah, it's nasty.

[Julian]

It's dangerous.

[Damaris]

My cheap alcohol was 99 bananas. I can't even smell that. I will throw up smelling that.

[Rory]

You know what? I've been drinking a lot lately. I had one last night. I've been drinking a lot of mezcal Negronis lately. Immediately.

[Damaris]

Mezcal Negronis.

[Mal]

I can tell by your hat Olympics.

[Damaris]

You look like a mezcal. How's that?

[Rory]

Pretentious.

[Damaris]

It's not Mezcal Negroni.

[Mal]

Yeah, just the word Negroni feels pretentious.

[Rory]

I feel like you shouldn't say Negroni.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's a little.

[Julian]

I said it's like macaroni. I don't like it.

[Damaris]

Well, he said. He did say.

[Rory]

But think about a Mezcal Negroni, Roy. It does. It is your color, so at least you can, like, coordinate eight.

[Damaris]

Oh, it's a little gingerbread.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Little.

[Rory]

That's the Campari.

[Julian]

He could just do an old Fashioned. Old Fashioned tastes better.

[Rory]

I love them as cal. They're great. It's super simple, too, to make. If anyone out there is experimenting with cocktails.

[Julian]

Catch. Catch gave me a free espresso martini shot. And.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Why do y'all drink that?

[Rory]

Well, it's not a shot.

[Julian]

Well, they gave.

[Damaris]

It's a start there. Like, it's.

[Julian]

Well, they bust it. They bust it down like it's basically espresso martini. And they bust it down in the shots for my table. And I was just like, oh, this is.

[Damaris]

Oh, so he just gave you an espresso martini, but he only wanted to give you one.

[Julian]

Yeah. So he free. It was like free, but it was just. It's nasty.

[Mal]

You know, when Damaris was a bartender, she used to charge me full price.

[Julian]

Sure did.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But that was kind of like an even exchange because you would charge her full price to go to Lucy Palooza.

[Julian]

Mind you, that's 80. His drink was 10.

[Mal]

There's only so many comps.

[Rory]

Thank you. I got him.

[Damaris]

My guest list is jammed.

[Julian]

It was jammed.

[Damaris]

It's slammed. My list is slammed. I. I can't. Can't do that.

[Julian]

Especially if you try to get Roy. Be like, just buy the ticket, and I'll get you backstage. You go to, like, get backstage. He's run. He's fake runner. I'm just so busy fake running around.

[Mal]

I was not fake running around. I was really running around.

[Damaris]

No, no. I've seen Rory really running around Barclays Center. I was like, oh, no.

[Rory]

That night.

[Julian]

Oh, that night you were there.

[Rory]

I was working. I did the pyro. Coked out of my mind.

[Damaris]

This is who y'all let control of Pyro.

[Mal]

I didn't know he did coke.

[Damaris]

This is who y'all.

[Mal]

This is at that. When would I have known you. You would dun coke.

[Rory]

This is the whole tour.

[Mal]

I didn't see one person do cocaine on the Paloa tour.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm nice with, like. I'm not like a fool, but. Yeah, we were all jacked up.

[Damaris]

So you was jacked up pressing the button?

[Rory]

No. You don't even know I'm a dare officer.

[Mal]

I had work to do. I wasn't, like, looking at who. We didn't piss test y'all. I didn't know you were on.

[Rory]

So this is years ago at this point. And I down, throw. I'm throwing everybody under the bus.

[Mal]

These guys. Yeah, we. We don't. We don't know if wants that out there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, we know if somebody get locked up here and we. And they all come looking for us. Yeah, they know we were.

[Rory]

We were doing a. You know, and most times you're sharing bags, so we're doing a lot of bag passes and we're doing in the tunnels, like, at the Barclays backstage. But there's always just, like, police posted up because it was one of those nights, and we were doing a pass. This guy, man in front, like, in the wall of police are 3ft in front of us, not even. And he just takes the bag out and does, like, the most botched, horrible backwards handoff in front of the police wall. And I just go and just, like, grab it. We just, like, walk by. I was like, dude, what the was that? We were both, like, strung out.

[Damaris]

It was just.

[Mal]

There was a lot in his. In his defense, I'm sure the cops were preoccupied with the 60 Crips that were backstage.

[Rory]

Yeah. But, like, if just, like, you know, because that's like the fluorescent highlight. The wall, that seat, that hallway is just so well lit. They would have seen the bag. If the bag hit the floor, they wouldn't have cared. It was just a. I mean, I would have felt awful. But after that, I got a text about doing the pyro, and I ended up doing the pyro for the. The Locks reunion and just, like, smashing buttons and hitting on the sliders.

[Damaris]

So you almost killed Styles.

[Rory]

And I was doing.

[Damaris]

I was doing Jada and Chic.

[Rory]

I was doing bumps while we were doing the. It was great.

[Damaris]

While they was doing Money, Power, Respect. You was doing Money Powder.

[Mal]

Yeah. While they were saying they had enough weight to scale that. The way the whales with Julian was like, ye. Thanks.

[Rory]

On tour, when we would do, like, when we would do drug, like, when we do bumps, whatever. Outside, like, in the. In the production pit, like, in the tech room, all the tech guys.

[Damaris]

Yeah, this is.

[Mal]

This is seriously, like, when mothers find out, like, their kids drank at 16. I swear on my whole life, I had no idea y'all were doing coke. Yeah, what the fuck?

[Rory]

It's easy.

[Mal]

I would have told y'all not to do cocaine.

[Damaris]

Like, especially because the.

[Mal]

I don't think our insurance covered that.

[Damaris]

Because the locks is coming on stage. You don't need to be in charge of blowing up Jadakiss's face.

[Rory]

I did a good job. No one got near the pyro.

[Mal]

That was.

[Rory]

That was me.

[Mal]

No, they did a great job.

[Rory]

No, that was me. I guided that.

[Damaris]

You guided them. You said, yo, don't step there.

[Rory]

I was like, yeah, go. Go that way. But if you ever get into the tech, like, booth, like, with the light guys, with the sound guys, they all do co. So we would spend. Me and redacted name from earlier would just spend, like, time in there, just, like, openly just doing bumps with the tech team. The venue team.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Okay.

[Rory]

So, you know, it's camaraderie.

[Damaris]

You were running a crazy organization.

[Mal]

No, I had no idea.

[Rory]

Rory was just running around slapping wristbands on people's wrists.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All his for taking them off. Ma actually did. Ma was a good help at the Barclays Center.

[Damaris]

Was I. You made.

[Mal]

You made a decision that was really actually helpful in the moment.

[Damaris]

Oh, yes.

[Mal]

I was in the middle of losing my mind. That was.

[Damaris]

It was Benner. I told Benner, right? Yeah, it was Benner. I told Benner. They were trying to stop all of Fabio's, like, his whole crew from going on stage, and I'm like, dog, we're In Brooklyn, Barclays Center. He has one of the biggest records in the fucking city, in the fucking country right now. Let all of these motherfuckers on stage. Like, why are y'all trying to stop the whole block from going on? This is a moment. Some of them started climbing and sneaking in. They were trying to stop him. I'm like, dog, just let them go. Soon as they got on stage, that turned into a moment.

[Mal]

It was the perfect advice.

[Damaris]

You can't stop that from.

[Mal]

No matter what, you're not going to stop it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So you might as well let the moment happen.

[Damaris]

They just want to go in there.

[Mal]

They were great.

[Damaris]

Yeah. They grew up 10 blocks from here. This is like them being in the Garden. Let them have their moment. Let them go up there, do their dances, you know, like, just let them go crazy.

[Rory]

That stage was packed.

[Julian]

I was crazy when I came on.

[Mal]

I will speak for Fabio and his crew for. For that night specifically. Specifically, they were some of the best. I don't want to use the word entourage, but best crew that we've had. Usually, the crews are always a nightmare. They were some of the nicest, most polite people ever. Once Fabio was done, they got off stage and went and party. They were fucking great. The cops were on crazy alert. I understand they had just had. A lot of shit had happened. Six, nine, Casanova, Rowdy. It was a lot of shit that was going on with the bar, so they were on edge with those guys. Those guys were amazing.

[Damaris]

Yeah. It was not. It was. It was a moment. It was definitely a moment. And I'm glad that they let them have that moment, because that shit turned up a whole. The show. The whole show was. That night was dope. When Fabio hit the stage and did that record, that took that shit to a whole nother level.

[Julian]

Raven took a picture of me when I was dancing to it. There's a picture of me.

[Damaris]

Oh, I know you was somewhere out there shaking.

[Julian]

No, I literally was doing the big drip dance. Like, just, like, they got a video of me. Me.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Great moment, great time.

[Mal]

Before we get away from music, I do want to note that Tierra Whack put out an incredible album on Friday.

[Damaris]

Hip hop.

[Mal]

It's hip hop. It's R and B. It's pop. There's everything on that album. I'm only like two or three listens into it, but you know when you can tell that you're going to like an album for quite some time. Yeah, this was one of those.

[Damaris]

Tierra is. She's. She's. She's. Like, quietly one of my favorite, favorite artist.

[Mal]

She. She delivered on this.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's incredible. I'm really happy that she took her time with it. I'm happy that she's getting the shine she deserves for it. You know, as we know for the past however many years, Tierra's always been, I think, ahead of the curve as far as creative goes with everything that she does. But I can't recommend this album more. It's so good.

[Damaris]

I mean, she went for Tierra, man. She's. She's like. I think that she's just such a unique artist again. Hip hop, mc, rapper. She's dope, man. She's dope. She gives me a lot of, like, the old Missy vibes.

[Mal]

You know, just compare women to other women.

[Damaris]

It's cool. No, but I'm just saying, like, as far as, like, just her artist, like, she. She pays attention. She's like. She's creating her own. Own, like, her tiara world, and she's.

[Mal]

She's one of the artists that could actually really rap and singing.

[Damaris]

Well, Tierra can rap and, like, not.

[Mal]

It's a lot of great singing on this project.

[Damaris]

Really.

[Mal]

It's. It's great. But before we get to voicemails, I know we. We weren't really gonna get into it, but I do want to bring up more Kanye west text messages.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

The copy one that we talked about last episode was one of my favorite.

[Damaris]

Mh.

[Mal]

I fully identified with his text message to Kai, even though I disagreed with him being mad at Kai. So you ain't do nothing wrong. So I felt this way for no reason.

[Julian]

Ooh, sound like something you got off before.

[Mal]

He said yes. And then he said, you k. You said you. Yes.

[Julian]

Yo, poor Kai. That's how you know he's doing well. He getting hate from everywhere.

[Damaris]

Texting, texting. Kanye gotta be like, opening fortune cookies.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

You can't predict what he gonna say next at all. There's no fucking predict way.

[Mal]

And it's probably going to be bad advice to you.

[Damaris]

You can't. You cannot predict what Kanye is going to say next to you in a text message.

[Mal]

He might give you some lucky numbers.

[Damaris]

I wouldn't. I would. He might.

[Mal]

350, 450.

[Damaris]

He might send you a picture of a fortune from a fortune cookie. Like, imagine if somebody who was texting somebody and their responses was only, like, pictures of fortunes from fortune cookies.

[Julian]

That'd be fire. I think it was like, you'd be.

[Damaris]

Like, yo, so what you doing tonight? And a. Send you a message like, yo, your lucky numbers are. What am I supposed to do with this? Like, that's what texting Kanye has to be like.

[Mal]

I just love the simplicity of so you ain't doing nothing wrong. So I felt this way for no reason, because, you know the answer is rhetorical, right? I feel away.

[Damaris]

I.

[Mal]

What a beautiful way to. To just put something. And then especially when you're wrong.

[Damaris]

Followed by the you then.

[Rory]

It's for those that aren't aware of what happened. Kanye sent Kai a pair of his new sweatpants. And apparently there are four sizes too long. Charge. So Kai said this on a stream?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Bro.

[Damaris]

This is not fitting me, bro.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

This fitting phantom, bro.

[Julian]

Yo, supposed to send a small dango.

[Rory]

Not an extra, extra long.

[Damaris]

Yep. The yo is crazy funny, cuz. You know, you probably was waiting on those, and then you get them in and they that big. You like. Oh, come on, man.

[Mal]

Have you ever been in that position where you get seated, something you couldn't wait for?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

And then they send you the wrong size?

[Damaris]

It's like, absolutely, man.

[Mal]

What the.

[Rory]

The initial message Kanye sent out was, don't make no jokes about my clothes when you ain't saying nothing about what Adidas is doing. When Vulture Song came out, you ain't playing my verse. You controlled. Don't play with me me.

[Damaris]

That's Fortune Cookie.

[Rory]

That was at 10:16pm Imagine opening your.

[Damaris]

DMs and seeing a message like that from Kanye. Don't play with me. You control.

[Rory]

You controlled.

[Damaris]

What? What are you talking about, man?

[Mal]

And do you watch Kai's content? What did you think he was going to say during your Adidas back and forth?

[Damaris]

No, that. The funny part is Kai didn't say nothing wrong.

[Mal]

Like, look how big.

[Damaris]

Look how big these pants are. Like, yo, what am. Come on bad. Like, these just don't fit me. That ain't like, what's wrong with that?

[Mal]

I think it was great promo for the line.

[Damaris]

100%. 100%.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was. That made me want to go look at what the sweats look like.

[Damaris]

Do we think that. Do we think that Yay makes an appearance in Kai's basement?

[Rory]

That'd be so awesome.

[Damaris]

Kai will probably, like, bring it, bringing the right size sweats, I think so I could see it happen.

[Julian]

Yo, seeing Yay yell at Kai while Kai just sitting there like, bro, like, it will be her. Like, serious.

[Damaris]

Like, I could see Yay definitely going to kicking it with Kai on the stream for sure.

[Mal]

I feel like he'd ask Kai to go to wherever he was like, whatever pyramid Kanye was in.

[Damaris]

Nah, see, no, man, that's just something. Yeah, you gotta go.

[Mal]

Oh, I agree with you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, man, go to. Go to Kai's basement, man, and kick it with him there, man. Don't. Don't send Kai to come to some empty warehouse. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know. Yeah, it's an empty warehouse. Nothing in there. Just him and Kai. Kai, like, no, man, nobody. Don't do that, man. No.

[Mal]

I tried to look up this John Monopoly threat because apparently John Monopoly, who's Kanye West's manager currently and has been his manager for a long time. I saw the headline that he threatened Kai to like fight him. I couldn't find that clip of John Monopoly saying that. Is that actually true?

[Rory]

But there's a. Kai did respond.

[Mal]

I know. I just couldn't find the original clip.

[Damaris]

Oh, a stuff would lie, bro. How is you dying to me?

[Mal]

Kai is really good at what he does, man.

[Rory]

So good. He's so good at this.

[Mal]

Making suspense for a Google search is a talent.

[Rory]

He scores his.

[Mal]

He's like, that's a pure talent.

[Damaris]

Clint, what's his age?

[Mal]

How old is this?

[Damaris]

How old is this?

[Julian]

I love him. Yo.

[Damaris]

How old is. This is funny.

[Mal]

Can you read whatever is below? Because I have to hear the threat. How did John Monopoly say he was going to fight Kai? I just don't believe that.

[Rory]

He said. He posted a photo with ye. He said, we good, but if we ever need to link up for a face to face, I'll meet him in his hood on the street. The streets. Just me plus one. He can bring his whole team. Just so y'all understand the type of time I'm on. May Allah bless you all.

[Mal]

Wait, what?

[Julian]

That's so weird when you bring Allah into that.

[Mal]

During Ramadan.

[Damaris]

He said he. That was his message to Kai.

[Julian]

No, that was a tweet. But why a child for.

[Mal]

For pants.

[Rory]

Yeah, just send him a better size or don't send him at all.

[Damaris]

No, bring the. The correct size to his. To his basement. Give it to him on his stream. Make it a moment, man.

[Mal]

Yeah, I can speak, I can talk.

[Picasso]

So, you know, I know that you guys were kind of bumping ass.

[Damaris]

And I wanted to reach out and see if there's a way that we could find a P resolution. Just get up the same page.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm, I'm. I'm. I'm.

[Julian]

I'm basically just.

[Damaris]

Hold on, hold on. Listen.

[Picasso]

Because as a people, I believe.

[Damaris]

I think. I think if we respect one another.

[Picasso]

And Take the time to communicate from.

[Damaris]

A mature perspective, bro.

[Rory]

This is all. They're arguing over. A pair of sweatpants.

[Damaris]

That's when things can go left. And I want to keep things simple. Chair. And I appreciate you for taking the.

[Picasso]

Time and considering these words.

[Mal]

All right.

[Damaris]

I understand that.

[Mal]

Right.

[Damaris]

Understand that.

[Mal]

My understand that. But you have to understand why the mother come so crazy to me in the first place. They said the pants don't fit.

[Damaris]

The pants don't fit. You said what?

[Mal]

I'm just saying, like, you feel I. I could.

[Damaris]

Whatever he want to do, he can resolve it. I don't care.

[Mal]

What is there to resolve? Due to the fact that, like, I was. I had no disrespect. You feel me?

[Damaris]

And I just feel like what we.

[Mal]

Was going back and forth on was a little. Was a little crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Yeah. So. So. So you.

[Mal]

How can I. How. How can we go about moving forward with this?

[Picasso]

I think we just need to develop a relationship.

[Damaris]

Relationship. You know what I'm saying? Just to get some correct sizes.

[Rory]

Just send him the right pair. Why are they on the phone right now?

[Mal]

It sounds like John Monopoly has a gun to his head, like on some hostage.

[Damaris]

241St. That's down the block from my block. Oh, John used to live on 241st. Oh, no. You said what?

[Mal]

So you should know that we shouldn't go for.

[Damaris]

No. No disrespect. Yeah. Oh, so John. He's from 241st. Oh, okay.

[Mal]

John Monopoly is from Chicago.

[Damaris]

He.

[Julian]

He must have live over. He must.

[Mal]

He.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He goes on to say he's lived there for 10 years or whatever.

[Damaris]

Oh, so he. Yeah. So he know the neighborhood then.

[Mal]

But why, like, why that lame? Is this, like.

[Rory]

It's weird.

[Mal]

Is this planned? There's no way. That's.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm telling you. This has to be a rollout. Yay. Is going on his stream. Has to be. There's no way all of this is over. Just him saying, like, yo, like, these shits don't fit. Like, that's. That's all he said.

[Rory]

I think that moment could have been sincere. But their reaction. Connie's reaction is just a very Kanye reaction.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's just like. But I think because of how he reacted. Yeah, go to the house. It could lead to a stream. It should. Why wouldn't Kanye do that?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think. I think it'd be dope. I think it'd be dope. Kai is great at what he does, man.

[Julian]

He's. I. I want. I want a Son like him. He's so perfect.

[Damaris]

You want a son, like, high? Yeah.

[Julian]

He's so funny and cute. Like, he's. He's a. He's been streaming for years. I want, like, a son that's, like, inter. That's funny and, like, entertaining.

[Damaris]

Like that Kyle would try to bust your ass if he saw you in the club somewhere. You talking about you want a son like him?

[Mal]

You would let Kabi.

[Rory]

Well, after those Snapchats, I mean, who knows?

[Damaris]

Yeah, who. Who knows? It's funny.

[Rory]

I don't want to put anything on his jacket.

[Damaris]

Who knows? Who knows?

[Mal]

Do we have voicemails?

[Damaris]

You've got mail.

[Rory]

Yeah. Oh, this is actually a fun one. Remember the threesome story that we wanted?

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Oh, God.

[Rory]

So since. Yeah, it's.

[Mal]

Well, give. Give some quick backstory. She called in, was talking about she was living her life. Finally she had her first threesome, and then didn't she get on to some crazy question, and we were way more concerned.

[Rory]

She was saying, I'm turning. She said, when I turned 30, I had all these things in my life. What did you. You guys. She was specifically asking Damaris, but then the question opened up to all of us. What did you want to do or accomplish at a certain point or time in your life? One of her is being a threesome, which she said she easily knocked off her list.

[Julian]

And seven consent. She said she wanted to do seven continents. She made it to five.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And instead of caring about her amazing question and her quest, we were more concerned of how that first three somewhat.

[Rory]

It was. Run the tape.

[Mal]

No, we were a crew. We're a team. We're not gang. Gang.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Not until it's time, like, you know.

[Rory]

Roy saying the white man speaks for all of us.

[Damaris]

That's American.

[Mal]

That's American.

[Julian]

Can we get rid of that flag, by the way?

[Mal]

Now more. Put that there.

[Damaris]

This is the country you live in, right? You're American.

[Julian]

I am.

[Damaris]

I think the flag stays.

[Mal]

Speaking of. Speaking of America, I did just watch that. Flowers of the Moonshine.

[Rory]

Killers of the Flower.

[Julian]

Flowers of the Moonshine.

[Damaris]

It's not the name of the movie.

[Julian]

Killers of Flower Moon.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

Say it. Say something racist.

[Mal]

Worst acting Leo's ever done in his entire life.

[Rory]

He's supposed to be bad.

[Mal]

I understand. He's supposed to be, like, the stupid guy that gets taken advantage of, but it was the most diet Shutter island acting ever. It felt like outtakes from Shutter island when he would, like, make the face in the same suit.

[Damaris]

It was.

[Mal]

It was awful. It was the worst De Niro's ever acted too. He was a better actor in Meet the Parents than he was in that. That would. I. I appreciate the attempt of what they tried to do in Scorsese doing something like that. It was a good story, but man, did the two legends not deliver.

[Rory]

What's your name?

[Mal]

Leo stunk in that movie. He was like bad, bad Rory.

[Julian]

You tend to over exaggerate and be a hater, though. So is it really that I love?

[Mal]

Leo's one of my favorite actors. Actors.

[Rory]

It's not that bad.

[Damaris]

It's not that bad of a movie. I'm sure a good movie.

[Mal]

Oh, no, I'm gonna re watch it because it was three hours long and there was a lot of to cover.

[Damaris]

It's a good movie.

[Mal]

I just. Leo was awful.

[Damaris]

I mean, I don't think I'm out acted by everybody. I don't feel like it was some of Leo's best acting, but I don't think it was bad acting. Like.

[Mal]

No, I think there's better Growing Pains scenes with Leo than there were in that movie.

[Damaris]

He going crazy now.

[Rory]

Go ahead, Rory.

[Damaris]

He go crazy all the time.

[Mal]

Leo wasn't good and Growing Pains.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but I. I think Leo good in everything he's done.

[Mal]

He's one of my favorite actors by far. This was just awful.

[Damaris]

Okay, I mean, that's fair. I mean, it ain't got to be your favorite. But you enjoyed the movie, though, the story, the way it was shot.

[Mal]

It's just tough to do three and a half hours when Dairo and Leo stink.

[Damaris]

Okay. Not mad at that.

[Mal]

Everybody else carried it well. She and Leo just the whole time.

[Damaris]

What is the lead actress's name? I forgot her name, but I think she just won. Didn't she win a. Was it a Emmy or Golden?

[Rory]

No, the Oscar.

[Damaris]

She won an Oscar.

[Rory]

Wait, no, I don't think she won. She was nominated. What's the woman's name?

[Mal]

As someone.

[Rory]

Gladstone. She smoked it. Yeah.

[Mal]

No, she was great. She was great as someone that prefers Scorsese over Tarantino. This felt like a movie that Tarantino should have done. There was so much build up to crazy and I kind of needed the. The wild ending.

[Damaris]

It wasn't enough. Too much building a Tarantino movie, though. Tarantino movies are always more violent.

[Mal]

He was smoking mad people.

[Rory]

They were smoking people racist. Oh, then definitely Tarantino's echoed Tarantino's.

[Mal]

Tarantino would have found a way to use the N word in a Native American white movie.

[Rory]

I was gonna say. What were they known as? Because it Wouldn't hit as hard as the N word. So I feel like that's why Tarantino would bow out of a film like this. This.

[Mal]

The. There's no former. The former name of the Washington Commanders, I think would have been thrown around a lot. Well, Tarantino would have Find some way to.

[Rory]

You could say Redskins.

[Mal]

I don't know anyone.

[Damaris]

It was. It was thrown around in there a little bit.

[Rory]

Yeah, but like that. It's just like. It's. Those are weak.

[Mal]

When they were bringing up the. The Tulsa. Yeah. They. They throwed him.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Tarantino would have made that scene longer.

[Damaris]

Like, he would have harped.

[Rory]

He would have rebound. Tulsa.

[Mal]

The movie just would have been Tulsa.

[Damaris]

The current Tulsa, though.

[Rory]

Yeah. Just light it up again. Is that 2024.

[Mal]

He would have changed the actual name from Black Wall street to something else.

[Damaris]

Tarantino would have blew up an Escalade.

[Mal]

In Tulsa right now in the 1920s and put Jamie Foxx in it for no reason.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah. Tarantino go a little crazy.

[Mal]

Oh, but what's. What's the name of that actress that was in Handmaid's Tale?

[Rory]

Oh, the. The white bitch.

[Mal]

Yeah, that face she made. It was an actress. Accurate description.

[Rory]

I knew he was talking about Elizabeth Moss.

[Mal]

The face she makes through the entire series is the face Leo was making through the whole movie.

[Julian]

Really?

[Mal]

Oh, just the whole time.

[Damaris]

This.

[Julian]

I. This is the character, like, the whole time.

[Rory]

I can't stand Elizabeth.

[Julian]

I hate her more than anyone I've ever hated in any show of all time.

[Rory]

This dumbass.

[Julian]

She's the worst character ever lived.

[Mal]

This was le. That was Leo the entire movie.

[Rory]

She plays very unlikable characters and does a great job.

[Damaris]

She's probably a sweetheart in real life.

[Rory]

I'm sure, but she's very good.

[Damaris]

That's the ones that plays like Chris.

[Rory]

I mean, in a good way.

[Mal]

She's been in other stuff that she was good in.

[Damaris]

She.

[Mal]

Handmaid's Tale. She literally.

[Julian]

She's just an awful character.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Also where. You really, like, watched Handmaid's, so.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And you're still.

[Mal]

It's a great series. I just can't get past her facial. Facial reactions throughout the entire thing. They. Yeah, they were off putting.

[Julian]

Julian, you want to go to voicemails.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Anyway, so after that sidestep. So we have this. Read some story.

[Mal]

See why it never got any awards. Didn't it? Not.

[Michelle]

Hey, everyone, it's Michelle from Chicago calling back with the Rory requested threesome story. So bam, here we go.

[Mal]

She's taking you out the whole Team.

[Rory]

Only you asking for the damn thing.

[Mal]

The team, all right? We're a unit.

[Michelle]

So I totally wish that it was. I think maybe Julian said it, see at the. That the threesome happened during my quest to hit all seven continents. And unfortunately, no, it didn't. It happened here in Chicago. But I guess some backstory is. Leading up to turning 30, I was in a really, really awful relationship. Incredibly controlling, very abusive. One of those relationships, like, you can't even believe you are in it. You can't even believe you find yourself in this. And anyway, that's not important. What's important is that after I got out of that relationship, I took control back of my life, my sensuality, myself, everything. And was bound and determined to. To have a threesome. Because he never, quote, unquote, let me, which is so fucking nauseating to even say because I'm not the type of person to let anybody tell me what the fuck to do. But anyway, shit, I'm running out of time. So basically, I meet this married couple. They invite me into their relationship as kind of their girlfriend.

[Mal]

Love it.

[Michelle]

And things just take off from there. He was a filmmaker, and I was basically the creative director of my own threesome. He shot it in the most beautiful, like, film noir, sexy as hell type of way. And it was one of the greatest experiences of my life.

[Mal]

Oh, she had the jackpot for a.

[Rory]

First three story with five seconds left on the clock.

[Julian]

That's fire.

[Damaris]

My nipples are hard, yo.

[Julian]

Unhearden them.

[Mal]

The like, yo, yo, Ro, can you teach me how to film make?

[Rory]

Filmmaker.

[Julian]

That was gay.

[Damaris]

I feel like that was gay. It's a woman talking.

[Mal]

No, I don't want to make a big mall guy. I don't have a threesome with Ralph. I just want to film make. Because clearly, filmmakers are going crazy. What a beautiful threesome.

[Damaris]

She said that he wouldn't let her have a threesome.

[Rory]

Go ahead, Mom.

[Julian]

I would assume that he probably liked. Like, he didn't want her. He didn't want to have one with her.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

You know how easy it is for women to have a threesome?

[Damaris]

It's easy for women to ask anything.

[Rory]

No, I know. Well, yes. I mean, that's why they deserve less financially. Yeah, but I'm. I'm just saying, like, specifically, when it comes to threesomes, every man has that, like, oh, my God, I wanna. If a woman just goes up to a couple is like, I want to you both. They're gonna be like, yeah, sure.

[Julian]

Well, harassed.

[Rory]

Yeah. You could just say no.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I mean, if the couple was into it, though, like. Yeah, and even if they're not, I could still see it turning into, like, a flirtatious type of, like. No, but you're cute. And, you know, if we were into that, we would. And. But you could sit with us and, like, drink and, you know, whatever. Like, I could see it being that. But, like, men, we can't get that off.

[Rory]

Hell no. But. Well, in our case, you'd have to approach two women.

[Damaris]

We can't go up to two lesbians and be like, yo, I would love.

[Julian]

No, it's actually very disrespectful to do that.

[Damaris]

See. See how fast we. Disrespectful.

[Mal]

It should be disrespectful to say that to any couple.

[Damaris]

Like, yo, let me know. But they meant, like, see?

[Julian]

Yeah, like that. Well, usually the couple comes up to you. That's what's supposed to happen. The couple is supposed to approach you, I guess.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's what happened here. The couple approached her.

[Mal]

This did sound like the beginning of an amazing horror movie, though, no? Well, like, this really nice couple that does video, and he's a director, and they shoot this amazing scene, and they treat her so well, and then comes back.

[Julian]

They want to film her, but, like, they want to tie her up, and then they, like, abuse her.

[Mal]

Or, like, she goes back for the second time.

[Rory]

That's a good movie.

[Mal]

They're out running errands, and they have such a beautiful place that she just starts walking around. She goes into his office, then finds, like, all the tapes. Tapes of the other threesomes, of them just killing the girl afterwards. Like, that's. That's what it sounded like to me.

[Julian]

Writer Rory.

[Rory]

That's a Hulu movie.

[Damaris]

Screenwriter.

[Mal]

There's like, 10 to be movies that probably are that exact plot.

[Rory]

Sydney Sweeney did a film like that on Hulu. She got fully naked, and it was a big moment.

[Mal]

Euphoria.

[Rory]

No, no, it's a film on Hulu. There's just. It's very voyeuristic. She lives in the building across these people. People. She goes across the guy as a photographer. He's a creep, of course. And then they, like, have all these tapes and photos and images of every other girl. It's. It's literally what you just said is the movie.

[Mal]

How, like, as a couple with Sydney Sweeney's tits, all of my, like, threesome requests has been somebody like, I knew and thought they would pair well.

[Damaris]

What do you mean?

[Mal]

If I was having a conversation with a girl I was talking to her dating and we were talking about threesome comes. I mean, it's best if she picks, but I've offered up options of, like, women that I think she'd find attractive. Whatever. You know, you go through the whole checklist. What do you do as, like, a couple? Just on, like, a Sandals resort and just fought. Like, how do you find that girl? To me, that's like, just porno. And maybe I'm naive.

[Julian]

They approach all the girls.

[Mal]

Couples just run into women by themselves, just ready to have threesomes.

[Julian]

Yeah, it actually happens a lot.

[Damaris]

I guess I'm not living, especially on vacations. Like, a lot of the women that, like, work at resorts and stuff like that.

[Mal]

Okay. I guess I could see.

[Rory]

I always wanted to do that.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

I didn't know that people really did that until I saw somebody do it. And I was like, y'all really strangers on vacation? I just will never get over that.

[Mal]

Oh, straight about couples or just people in general?

[Rory]

I'm not worried about strangers.

[Mal]

I'm saying, isn't that the point of a vacation?

[Rory]

Is a stranger a hotel employee? No, no, that sounds great.

[Damaris]

Like, if you're on vacation by yourself or whatever.

[Rory]

Like, if we go to LA and shoot some.

[Mal]

I'm just not that boat. Like, Like, I respect people's workplace. If I'm with my girl and we're, like, trying to have a threesome, the maid would be the last person I would ask, like, why. Why would I. Like, this woman's at work. Like, why would I up her?

[Rory]

Yeah, but you get paid still.

[Damaris]

Remember we was in high school. We went to I Don't Want to.

[Mal]

Pay for a Threesome.

[Damaris]

We had a show. I think I want to say it was, like, in Random. Iowa.

[Rory]

Nice shout out, Iowa.

[Mal]

And.

[Damaris]

And my homeboy that I was in school with at the time, he fucked the girl that worked at the front desk. We was high school. He was, like, 16. This was clearly a grown woman.

[Mal]

So this is a crime.

[Damaris]

No, this is what I'm getting to. But I remember seeing. I was like. I was like, yo, that's Shorty from the front desk in your room.

[Mal]

He was like, yeah, women are predators, man.

[Damaris]

I'm like, yo, what the. Now? She wasn't. She was definitely in her 20s. 100%. Like, she wasn't. I don't think she was 30, but she was in her 20s. But I just remember seeing her in the room, and I was just like, yo, that's. And I remember him saying. He was like, I'm a fuck Shorty at the front Desk. I'm like, that's a grown ass woman. Like, shut up. Four hours later, she was in his room.

[Rory]

What is it about that? Especially in schools where, like, teachers, it's usually women that are fucking the students.

[Julian]

It is not usually woman. No, it's not.

[Rory]

Yeah, it is.

[Julian]

It is not usually. Pull up the statistics that show me that it's usually women.

[Damaris]

And then who took those statistics?

[Mal]

It's a weird poll.

[Damaris]

That's a weird year. Like, who did that? That. Who went around the nation, like, hey, how many male teachers versus female teachers?

[Julian]

I don't know the stats, but who get caught.

[Mal]

From what I've seen recently, it does seem like it's only the women teachers being caught fucking their students.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

It's been a long time since I've seen.

[Julian]

But coming up. But that's because little boys don't know how to keep their mouth shut. Because coming up in high school, the male teachers were always creepiest. We all. Yeah, that was, like, in the news that.

[Damaris]

Well, the male teachers are creepy, but. And then, like, women are more. More like covert approaches about their intentions. As you know, you're a woman, so we can speak to your intentions.

[Julian]

Covert intentions, my love.

[Mal]

All right, well, give me the scenario if I'm on vacation to, like, how. How to lure in the. The threesome as a couple.

[Julian]

Sounds creepy. Just you. Well, you got to see who's giving you. Well, first of all, you and Kia are a very attractive couple, so people will.

[Mal]

Well, not with the hair now.

[Rory]

She has a lot of the lift.

[Mal]

If I get a haircut, maybe I'll be more attractive.

[Julian]

No, you'll attract more white women like this, so.

[Mal]

I'm joking.

[Damaris]

I love that. No, no, no. Stand on it. Stand on it. That's not very Republican of you. Like, stand on that, man.

[Julian]

So y'all will naturally get, you know, looks from women and stuff like that. You go to the bar, you kind of like, you know, you talk to people. And as you talk to people, you can tell when someone's giving you, like, the energy.

[Damaris]

Look how fast she's showing us her covert intentions. Right?

[Julian]

My covert intention.

[Damaris]

You giving them the playbook. Who drew that playbook?

[Julian]

Coaches don't play.

[Damaris]

They. Some of them used to.

[Rory]

Some of the best coaches.

[Damaris]

Some of the best coaches. Absolutely.

[Rory]

Play experience is everything. That's what they say.

[Mal]

So going on vacation next week?

[Julian]

Miami.

[Mal]

I need this. Well, you guys, just stop. Just tell me exactly where the. I'm going.

[Julian]

I'm sorry.

[Rory]

Staying at the Jesus Christ.

[Damaris]

Covert intentions. Go ahead.

[Julian]

I'm Sorry. We could. We could bleep that out. Vacation.

[Mal]

So like, do I just walk to the strip and just also like. I feel like that takes a bit of finessing. Do I tell the nanny to leave?

[Rory]

Just buy a some mahi mahi.

[Mal]

I'm not. I'm not paying for a threesome. To me, that's.

[Rory]

No, I'm saying pay for sex. I'm saying just get her like a Mai Tai and like a piece of lobster and she'll do it.

[Julian]

Yeah, well, you're gonna. If you're gonna do the three piece of lobster.

[Mal]

I don't know if I want that.

[Julian]

You go to a place like allow lounge or like a hotel bar or like a regular just bar the Clevelander and you just talk to women.

[Damaris]

That's a sick place.

[Julian]

If you feel like you're getting play from.

[Mal]

That'd be my first place to go.

[Julian]

You feel like you're getting played from a woman. I literally hate you guys so much.

[Mal]

He's. I mean, that's how out of touch I am. That'd be the first place. Wet willys.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry. No, you don't want to go to wet. No. You want a wet willy?

[Mal]

God, no.

[Julian]

No, don't go on the strip.

[Mal]

Is there like a. A specific colored T shirt I should wear? Like the way you guys have talked.

[Rory]

About these bad boy hat.

[Julian]

You want to.

[Mal]

Yes, like these messaging things that are out there. When you were talking about being in the sauna and you knew how to attract the gay guys, cuz you knew the signs.

[Rory]

That's not how I like.

[Mal]

What is the. The. Hey, we're a couple looking for a third. He knew a shirt.

[Damaris]

He knew what side to tie his towel on.

[Julian]

The man is flirting with a woman in front of his woman. If you are flirting with me in front of your girl, I know what you're trying to do. I know what y'all are trying to.

[Rory]

Oh, so he'd have to be.

[Mal]

But I feel like she should be.

[Julian]

She should chalk can also happen as well. But you also have to give energy. You have. You both have to be giving energy. So you both should be flirting with.

[Mal]

What if I play like the mysterious role in the corner?

[Julian]

I mean, just do that.

[Mal]

Like.

[Damaris]

No, all you gotta do is act.

[Julian]

Like you gotta have the girl. You gotta have the girl.

[Mal]

How quickly would this dry up? The.

[Damaris]

Yeah, no, that's dry. All you gotta do is act like. Act like Justin Timberlake and his latest.

[Rory]

I was gonna say. Yeah, get on your JT back.

[Damaris]

That's all you Gotta do.

[Mal]

I'm not that smooth. I would. I would fall.

[Damaris]

You gotta. No, the thing is, you have to order a drink and then turn your back to the bartender, lean against the bar, and then she just puts the drink right here.

[Mal]

I think, like, I'm near silent. I have to focus on what's in front of me and see her all the way at the end of the club.

[Damaris]

Listen, order the drink, right? And then you turn around and you put your back to the bar like this.

[Julian]

Lean on the bar.

[Damaris]

Lean on the bar. Bartender puts the drink right by your arm, and you look directly at the woman that you and your lady want.

[Julian]

Pick up the drink and sip it.

[Damaris]

And then what you do is you order another drink.

[Mal]

It's not that cool, guys.

[Damaris]

No, listen, you order another drink, whatever you're drinking.

[Mal]

So give me another strategy. No, listen, you order, tell her I'm a good listener.

[Damaris]

Another drink. Drink that you're drinking, and then you, listener, take the drink to the girl.

[Mal]

What'd you say?

[Julian]

That was a good one. That was a good bar. You. Sorry. I told him he wasn't a good listener. He said, what you say? It was a.

[Mal]

You guys are giving me a scenario that I can't pull off. There's no way that the girl that's by herself that would. The both of us would fall for me. Or like, what am I, the most interesting man in the world? Well, like, what is this case?

[Rory]

Commercial or whatever, maybe. Son, here's the thing.

[Damaris]

Nine times out of ten. Okay, well, let's say easy more times than none. If a woman is alone in a certain spot, like a vacation spot, like whether it's a restaurant, bar, she's alone, she's probably working. So it's probably going to be really easy.

[Mal]

Fair.

[Damaris]

It's probably going to be really easy.

[Mal]

I don't want to do that.

[Julian]

He wants the natural. He wants the girl that's just like, there with her friends for the weekend.

[Damaris]

Like, and you grabbed a cute one.

[Mal]

I don't want a professional.

[Damaris]

Oh, you don't want a girl?

[Mal]

I want a girl that's trying to fulfill her threesome checklist.

[Damaris]

Oh, and she goes back.

[Mal]

That'll give the better energy than the girl that's about to leave my threesome to go have another threesome.

[Damaris]

Got it.

[Rory]

Yeah, true.

[Mal]

It's not. It's not really my, my. And no disrespect to people that pay for sex. It's just not my thing.

[Julian]

So have s. Kia hunting. Kia will have to catch the vibe from the girl and see if she can get the girl to eat her in the bathroom. If she can do that, Kia has to halt it before they get too turned on. And then take her with.

[Mal]

I have a hotel.

[Julian]

No, that's what I'm supposed to push your bathroom.

[Rory]

They got to hit the bathroom lick.

[Julian]

They got to hit the bathroom lick first to see if she.

[Mal]

I don't even know there's a bathroom at Wet Willies.

[Damaris]

Why are you there? I told you. I told you in the first. Don't go to Wet Willies.

[Mal]

I think they just at the bar stools in.

[Rory]

That's the check in.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's like eating in the bathroom is crazy.

[Julian]

Girls do that all the time. But she's not supposed to.

[Damaris]

Yeah. When girls go to the bathroom together.

[Julian]

To go all the way with it. I thought that was, like, supposed to warm it up. Like, maybe, like, finger her or like, kiss her or something like that and.

[Damaris]

Warm somebody up by just fingering them is crazy. Like. Like, how you doing, huh? Everything cool down there?

[Rory]

You want happy? We got 10 more minutes. You want to get another drink?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Where you from? Are you. You word. Me too. I've been there. Mad times. Like, we can't see men can't do starting a lawnmower. We can't do that. We can't do that. Men cannot do that.

[Julian]

No one should be doing that. That's something that women could do that. Rory has sent her a drink in the bathroom.

[Rory]

It's. I kind of. It's kind of lit like a club or a bar.

[Mal]

Oh, it's great.

[Rory]

Done that a long time. That's the time I did.

[Mal]

It was during COVID That's a fun thing. Eating in the bathroom is crazy.

[Julian]

All you got to do is put a leg up on the toilet.

[Damaris]

So you got to do do right.

[Julian]

What I hear.

[Damaris]

All you gotta do. Yo. You don't hit the marriage. All you gotta do whenever, say all you gotta do, you either go into jail or they did it already. Like, all you gotta do is how many times you did that. Or you gotta do put a leg.

[Rory]

Up on the sink. It seems a little more sanitized.

[Julian]

Yeah, but sinks are higher if you're short. Hypothetically. Like, it's a lot to hold that leg up there. Toilet is shorter.

[Damaris]

You know what I'm saying? Saying?

[Mal]

I. I mean, I just feel like we would ruin the moment in the Uber back to the hotel. No, we'd start talking about a mark.

[Rory]

You. You should just get a different car. No, send them home together. You get a separate car. And meet them there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Cuz you just.

[Rory]

You literally get into the room when they. When they're ready. Like you don't come along and it up along the way.

[Mal]

I know I've had my fair share of threesomes. I know how to operate once it's.

[Rory]

Going down under these circumstances.

[Mal]

A cold call threesome. I've never. I've never done before.

[Rory]

She could FaceTime you.

[Mal]

I don't know how to operate that entire cold call.

[Damaris]

Three soon. Just walking right into it.

[Rory]

Get FaceTimed in.

[Mal]

Hey, new parents haven't been outside. Very. Trying to get crazy. I'm trying to say that's how weird we are now.

[Damaris]

Love of his life.

[Rory]

Look at here. Look at this. Me on the slide. Notice how I secured my.

[Julian]

My baby ashes.

[Damaris]

Rory would walk into the threesome and start showing videos of Amara. Like, yeah, this was her. Her first walk right here. This is when she started walking.

[Mal]

Once the threesome was done, though, that'd be a good thing to do, right?

[Damaris]

A terrible thing to do.

[Mal]

Why?

[Damaris]

Just don't leave the kid out.

[Rory]

Kick her out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, there you go.

[Rory]

The woman who wants to think about.

[Julian]

Kids with dried nut on the side of their face. Nobody wants to think about.

[Mal]

That would be after I, like, wiped her face.

[Damaris]

But see, this could have been one of those. Yes.

[Mal]

Look what I create if I leave it in. We could all be co parents.

[Julian]

Okay, do we have another voicemail?

[Damaris]

We could be co parent. That's sick.

[Julian]

That's sick. Getting pregnant in a threesome.

[Mal]

You want to kick the girl out after the threesome.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

To me, that's like kind of the allure of the threesome afterwards.

[Damaris]

Like, let her stay if she's cool. If she's cool. If she's cool, then it's like she can stay.

[Mal]

Like, the community of it afterwards to me is like a real big thing.

[Damaris]

Bring people.

[Julian]

That's the only. But that's because you've only had threesomes with people that you weren't in serious relationships with. You now that you're in a serious relationship, you don't want that girl staying there. Go home so I can lay down with.

[Mal]

It's a community.

[Rory]

This Kia wouldn't want this chick just hanging out.

[Mal]

What if she. If she's cool? What if she has, like, a really cool perspective?

[Damaris]

What if she's dope perspective.

[Rory]

I want Rory Gaza.

[Julian]

I need y'all to stop using that classic just.

[Damaris]

That's a classic. Yo, he said, I don't want to.

[Mal]

Say I'm the sickest human being on earth. Let's just put it that way. No one has any idea what we're talking about. I'm the sickest human being that's ever existed. I'm aware. I'm aware. I'm the sickest human being.

[Rory]

I was hoping you'd say it.

[Damaris]

Is it the Jews?

[Rory]

There's no way he's talking.

[Damaris]

Oh, yo, is it the Jews through the hotel room, going crazy?

[Mal]

Am I the sickest human being, or am I the most profound human being that you've ever come across?

[Damaris]

You're the. You're the sickest I've ever met in my life. Life by far. That Miami. Yo, dog, that was the craziest.

[Rory]

I think about that often.

[Damaris]

Yo, me and Julian was laughing so hard. Security came upstairs.

[Rory]

The guy tried to kick us out of the hotel. He goes, where are you for London?

[Damaris]

I'm like, my room is right.

[Rory]

Where are your room? So we just point to our doors. We're standing outside. He goes, can you go in here? Either one of those? We were just laughing so hard. Oh, my.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Julian]

Oh, how bad we wish we could tell you guys what we're talking about.

[Damaris]

Holy. Is it the. Is it the Jews? Is the craziest.

[Mal]

Am I the goat?

[Rory]

No, no.

[Mal]

You had to lose the halal version of goat.

[Rory]

Yo, Mall and I went out. We laughed for, like, two hours after for that.

[Damaris]

Holy.

[Rory]

Oh, that was so funny.

[Damaris]

Yo, y'all are sick. Y'all are crazy.

[Rory]

This next voicemail could go either one of two ways. We either keep it or cut it, depending on how we talk about it.

[Damaris]

All right, well, let's see.

[Rory]

Here we go.

[Damaris]

Y. What's good, baby?

[Picasso]

It's Picasso from Virginia. I got a question for y'all. Hypothetical question. Even though this realism. So I got a girl, and in my girl's close group of friends, one of them is transgender. Like, he used to be a. But now he's a. Or she's a girl. She's a girl now. Used to be a dick and all that. And she has a man now who she's starting to bring around the group every time we hang out. And like that. I don't really know him like that, and I don't really know her like that. But he has no idea as a now that she used to be a. Because she looks convincing. She looks convincing. I'm not gonna lie. She looks convincing. And my girl told me that she's made it clear that she has no real intentions of letting him know about her past. Hey, should I tell this? Like, where should my Loyalty lie on this. Am I wrong for outing her, or am I wrong for letting this, I don't know, be tricked? I guess, because just like, she's not gonna tell them. I lowkey you think it's up, but she's not gonna tell him if you're gonna take this man seriously. But I don't really know her like that. I don't know him like that. I don't know if I should do anything at all or just watch this explode, I guess. What should I do? Let me know.

[Julian]

Mind your business.

[Damaris]

I was just in a situation like that.

[Mal]

Oh, please, do tell.

[Rory]

Whoa. Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, not like I figured that.

[Mal]

Trump's my Gaza story immediately.

[Damaris]

No, no, no. I, I, I, I saw somebody that I've had, you know, interactions with here and there. Like a picture of someone that I know is trans. I don't know the trans person, but I know that they're trans because I know somebody that knows that per. The trans, the trans girl. So I seen. He was like, on a bunch of pics, liking a bunch of pics. So I'm like, all right. And I know he's a sniper, full fledged sniper. So I'm like, let me. In case he didn't already snipe, let me let him know. Like, yo, fam, I see you in the likes a lot. Like, this is a trans woman.

[Mal]

Might be changing the caliber of the bullet. No, he might be sniping the way.

[Damaris]

I DM'd him and told him, I was like, bro, this is a trans woman. Like, in case you didn't know, he was like, oh, shit, good looking. Like, I had no idea.

[Julian]

I don't, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. This person should mind their fucking business. They should mind. Mind their business.

[Damaris]

Nah, but that, but why?

[Julian]

What do you mean, but why? Because if he tells that man that that woman is trans and that man kills that woman, guess who that's on? It's on her, but it's also on him. And you, now you got to carry that with you because you could have just shut your mouth. It don't have.

[Damaris]

Did he, did he engage in sexual activity with the tr.

[Rory]

It doesn't seem like he's trying to.

[Damaris]

He's trying to prevent it from. It sounds like he's trying to prevent it.

[Julian]

No, he said they've been dating. They've probably slept together, I would imagine.

[Mal]

No, play that, Play that one more time because I do want to get that. That exact detail because that's important because I think that prevents what Damaris is talking about if he lets him know.

[Julian]

Ahead of time instead of no, not exactly.

[Mal]

Which is. Which is up and wrong.

[Julian]

But it doesn't. It doesn't prevent it, actually.

[Mal]

Which is why not prevent it? I'm sorry for saying that, but a heads up could maybe alleviate a situation that could go very bad.

[Julian]

It's not even your friend. That's not even his friend. It's his girls, homies. It's weird, man.

[Mal]

Like, you should mind your. I get it. I get it.

[Rory]

But gospel here.

[Damaris]

It's his girls, homies.

[Julian]

It's his girls, homie that used to be a girl that's now trans man. That he's trying to warn. It's like five degrees of separation that'll have to do with you. That's not your home.

[Rory]

Picasso shouldn't say anything, but I think the real question is, should the person who did transition, should they tell someone, hey, yo, for. But by the way, I know we're seeing each other and getting serious, whatever, hanging out more. I used to be be a man, and now I'm a woman.

[Julian]

That's a conversation.

[Rory]

I feel like that is the baseline.

[Julian]

Save your life. That's a conversation you should have on the first or second date.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

To save your own life.

[Rory]

Because that's. To Damaris's point, a lot of people lose their lives because they withhold that information, get sexual with someone, and then it becomes revealed, and then that person can't live with that thought, so they kill them.

[Mal]

Yeah, it should be.

[Rory]

So to save. Be like, yo.

[Damaris]

So just tell people. Just be honest up front.

[Julian]

But homie should mind his business.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't. Unless they're, like, friends or has, like, a bro code thing. They don't know each other. He shouldn't say. He should. He shouldn't be the one to say it.

[Julian]

And you don't know if he really knows or not. They could be telling you he don't know. He might know.

[Rory]

They just said, I'll play this part again. Because he does say that girl.

[Picasso]

And then my girl's close group of friends. One of them is transgender gender. Like, he used to be a. But now he's a. Or she's a girl. She's a girl now. Used to be a dick and all that. And she has a man around the group every time we hang out and like that. How do they know him like that? And I don't really know her like that. But he has no idea as of now that she used to be a. Because she looks Convincing. She looks convincing. I'm not gonna lie. She looks commission. And my girl told me that she's made it clear that she has no real intentions of letting him know about her past.

[Rory]

So that's the part that's troubling. Because if she knows and plans on keeping that a secret, then gets dangerous.

[Mal]

I wouldn't tell him, but I would have a conversation with your girl. That she should have a conversation with.

[Rory]

Her friend for, like, for the safety of your friend.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, just in case. Case. Make that be known. Because it's crazy out here, and it's not right that transgender people have to say that from the beginning. But let's deal with reality and the world we live in. It's something that you should say from the beginning because people are crazy. The same way no matter what your gender is dating, you have to take certain precautions.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No matter what. For health reasons. And it's just always same with the transgender community. You need to make that clear because people are fucking nuts.

[Damaris]

And it's just not right. Like, that's. Start there. It's just not right for you to play on somebody's reality like that. Like, if this is a heterosexual man and you're trans, you should definitely let that man know.

[Mal]

Like, well, the thinking is that they are 100% a woman.

[Damaris]

I know what their thinking is. Let's talk about what my thinking is as a heterosexual man. Because people like to just go with their thinking. Yeah, but it's two people. So don't just tell me what their thinking is. Let's talk about what my thinking is. My thinking is I like a full fledged woman, natural born woman. Whatever you decide to do as an adult, great. That's your life. But don't play with my reality and think that I'm looking at a woman. When you were born as male. Like, no, now you're playing on my reality and it doesn't matter.

[Julian]

And that's where it comes in, where it doesn't matter. What is is, you know, PC or what is actually right. Right. It's not about that. It's about the person that you're dating and what they believe. That's why I said some things. It doesn't matter what's right or wrong. It matters about other people's perception. And if their perception is that you're not. That trans women are not full women. Whether I agree with that, you agree with that. Whoever agrees with that, that's their thinking and they're in this relationship. And you need to consider that when you. Before you start dating someone?

[Damaris]

Yeah. What are you right now? A woman? Cool. Were you born? Born?

[Julian]

Is that something you guys are going to start asking when you're dating if.

[Damaris]

Somebody was born a woman?

[Julian]

Because I. I asked now, if you're married, if you have a girlfriend, if you have kids, if you have anybody that thinks she's your girlfriend, you have to ask certain things. Are you gonna ask, like, do you.

[Mal]

Think that's a good question to ask in my cold call threesome in Miami? Yeah, if you care out the gate, yes.

[Damaris]

If it's a strange, random woman that you think is attractive? Yes.

[Mal]

Do you think that'll set the mood? If I'm like, like, yo, you, like, let me see your birth certificate.

[Damaris]

I was about to say something else. Let me see your crotch.

[Rory]

Like, it's got a piece tucked in.

[Julian]

That bikini they have. They. Their surgeries that people get to have.

[Damaris]

I feel like I could tell if you show me a. That used to be a dick. I feel like I should be able to tell.

[Rory]

I don't know, man.

[Damaris]

I've seen enough, bro. Like, I've seen enough. It's like, all right, fam. I. I could spot an eight ball. Like, I know what that is right there. Like, that ain't. That ain't right. Real. It's not real.

[Rory]

It's vegan.

[Damaris]

It's just not real.

[Julian]

But not all vaginas don't look the same, though. Some vaginas look completely different from others.

[Damaris]

So you're right. So I feel like I should be able to tell when something that completely was never a vagina that is now vagina. I should be able to tell.

[Rory]

It's like turkey bacon. You don't know until you try it. Turkey bacon looks like bacon.

[Julian]

No, it doesn't.

[Mal]

The amount, like, we live in New York, which is a community full of every everything. New York is probably one of the biggest cities that's like that. We also frequent LA a lot. We go in major cities that have a lot of the transgender community. It's weird that I don't really run in to a lot of friends that have, like, stories that are actively dating that that happens, that they just run into a transgender woman or vice versa. Run into a transgender man. It doesn't happen as often.

[Rory]

I had one friend take one transgender woman on a date. Unknowingly simple situation. Like, didn't know. Met on a dating app. All the. All the. That you see the photos, whatever. Met in person. And I don't remember how he found out, but he was like, then the Transgender woman was calling him transphobic because he wouldn't go on another date with her. And he's like, well, yeah, like, this, obviously, circumstantially, this is different than what I thought initially. He's like a good looking dude. He's like a model. This woman, I think, also modeled. So it was like, it's like one of those kind of couple roles. And he was just like, yeah, but like, this isn't. And she, like, tried to get him canceled and, like, publicly smear his name. He's like, that's not. This isn't gonna work. Like, what?

[Mal]

I mean, that's the contradicting thing that is from that community. Like, if there's such a spectrum and we all have our preferences and there's so many different ideas of what we like in this spectrum, why can't I just like a natural born born woman?

[Damaris]

Right.

[Mal]

If we're all. If there's so many different parts of the spectrum, why am I transphobic? Because I just like a natural born woman.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

How is that transphobic? I, I, I'm not trying to take away your right to vote.

[Damaris]

Right.

[Mal]

I'm with you guys.

[Damaris]

Like, I'm claustrophobic if you think.

[Mal]

Actually, that's, yeah, that's a perfect point.

[Damaris]

Right. Like, I just can't. Like, I hate tight quarters. Tight.

[Mal]

You hate tight.

[Damaris]

But I'm transphobic. I don't care about. I don't do what you want to do. But tell me what you are. If I'm trying to actively date you, like, give me, you have to give me that.

[Rory]

Trying to still see the parallel between claustrophobia and.

[Damaris]

Because I don't care about, like, a trans, Like, I'm not transphobic. I just don't want elevators. I don't want to have sex with a trans woman. Like, that doesn't make me transphobic.

[Rory]

Like, that's what always.

[Mal]

It does.

[Rory]

Like, when people Twitter. Yeah. When people do that, it's like, well, if, if you're not into it, therefore you are, are the fo. Like, no, that's just such, like, a crazy leap of, like, judgment.

[Damaris]

No, it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. But, hey, like, what you, like, love what you love.

[Rory]

He shouldn't say anything, but I think Damaris is right. You should tell your home, your girl to tell her homegirl to be honest.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Did we say we're in D.C. saturday? We did. D.C. saturday, March 23rd. Howard Theater. We're back.

[Julian]

Y'all gonna take a shot for me?

[Mal]

Just thinking about the idea of me Taking a girl back to our hotel and she's transgender.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. Just put some money in my.

[Mal]

Because I'm very polite and progressive.

[Rory]

Your.

[Damaris]

No, you're not. Not a necessary.

[Rory]

You would not in that. You wouldn't be like, oh, no, we screwed.

[Mal]

Cool.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he back.

[Mal]

I would.

[Damaris]

Swam me out on you.

[Julian]

So what if your girl still wanted to sleep with her?

[Mal]

Me. Me and Kia would have to have some serious conversations.

[Rory]

Would you back it out? It's bigger than you.

[Julian]

How though, if you're not. If. If it's your preference not to have sex with somebody. You say you're not transphobic, but that's not your preference. If she's willing to have sex with that person that like just her, that will bother you.

[Mal]

Wait, say that scenario again.

[Rory]

Yo, this is sick.

[Julian]

If she wanted to still have sex with that person, the same way if she bought a girl to the hotel and you had drank too much and your dick couldn't get. You would still let her. The girl. You wouldn't let her a transgender person if that's what she wanted to do.

[Damaris]

All does. Does the trans still have their pe.

[Mal]

Yeah. Is. Is another dick going in my girl's vagina?

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Sure. Go. Go bump thighs.

[Damaris]

N. Man, don't do that. Rory stand no business. No, you wouldn't. No, you. Not you.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

The same way that he's just going to walk out the key again her 8 and just make a sandwich. We'll talk about this later.

[Rory]

He said, I'll get back to you later.

[Damaris]

Ain't no ever do no like that in the gym. The other walk out the room and be like, we'll talk later.

[Rory]

So hard.

[Mal]

I'm here to double down on. I thought about it later after the episode and was like, yeah, that's if it. It was a girl I knew.

[Damaris]

Huh.

[Mal]

I would let it happen. Once I realized that I was not invited. I'm not gonna up that situation because I have hope that maybe I'll be let into this at some point.

[Damaris]

All right.

[Mal]

That's why I said that.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I was very clear in that regard. Are you like, some strange eating Kia's when I walk in my house? No. I'm shutting everything down.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

Who is this person in my house?

[Damaris]

A woman, you know?

[Mal]

Yeah. And I'm going to walk in, like, what's up?

[Rory]

If they were.

[Mal]

If they were clear that I wasn't part of it, I would leave. I wouldn't end it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you don't know this trans woman.

[Rory]

So, like, she doesn't have A piece, though, right?

[Damaris]

No, fresh.

[Julian]

Straight off the assembly line.

[Mal]

I would have some questions.

[Damaris]

Nah, bro.

[Mal]

If that situation happened where they still had the peace. Julian asked, like, what if it was bigger than yours? What a conflicting moment that would be. Like, if he was ready to get busy and then son just pulled it out. Not only would you be like, what the. Yeah, yo, daughter's not. See, son is a phrase we use for everybody that's universal because we're all.

[Damaris]

Children under the sun.

[Mal]

I call they sun cuz they shine.

[Rory]

Like, what Backed out the hammer.

[Mal]

And it's cuz one, I'd be conflicted, like, what the seven soft, but. But two. Seven soft is crazy.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Mal]

No warts, clean shaft.

[Rory]

What a waste of a piece. Seven soft.

[Mal]

Like, you sure you want to. Goddamn Johnny S. You be going nuts.

[Damaris]

Yo, backing out the.

[Rory]

Waxed, like, what a conflicting moment.

[Mal]

Yo, yo, that's crazy, because I'd be thrown off just like, of a dick coming out, period. Yeah, but then, like, the ego part of I'm there with my girl, and he's seven soft, clean shacks. Now I'm like, yo, yo, yo.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

I don't know how Rell is gonna chop this up.

[Damaris]

Life, you can leave this. Yeah, why not?

[Mal]

Just put a bunch of cuts to make it off this.

[Damaris]

On the vacay, though, like, on the vacation.

[Mal]

The Mar is quitting Miami, and y'all.

[Damaris]

Staying in the same hotel, so you got to keep seeing that person the whole time you on vacation.

[Rory]

How you tuck a seven soft into a bikini?

[Damaris]

Yo, man, that's crazy. You gotta take that to the shop.

[Mal]

How did I not see it through those leather pants?

[Rory]

Holy God damn.

[Damaris]

All right, man. D.C. we will see y'all this Saturday, March 23rd. Howard Theater, new roaring mall.com tickets are still available. Let's get out of here, man. I'm tired. I'm laughing. Y'all are crazy. Have a safe week. We'll be back in a couple days. Kick it with y'all. Subscribe to the Patreon. Subscribe to the YouTube. Follow us on Tick Tock, Instagram, Instagram, Twitter, New Rory and mall. Talk to you soon. I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger. Peace. New warrior.