Episode 256 | Reality TV Is A Lie

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 256 | Reality TV Is A Lie

Podcast Information:

• Title: New Rory & MAL
• Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
• Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal
• Episode: Episode 256 | Reality TV Is A Lie
• Release Date: April 2, 2024

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1. Love is Blind: Recap and Critical Analysis

The episode delves deeply into the latest season of the reality TV show "Love is Blind," with hosts Maul, Rory, Damaris, and Julian dissecting key moments and character developments.

• Clay and AD's Relationship:

  • Maul praises Clay as "by far the sickest dude in television history" (03:10).
  • The hosts discuss Clay's initial portrayal as a "fuck boy" and his strategic behavior during the show's progression.
  • Notable Quote:
    • Maul: "Clay, you are the sickest dude in TV history, bro." (03:34)
    • Rory: "He's a product of his environment." (07:13)

• Dramatic Wedding Turnaround:

  • The unexpected twist where Clay backs out of the wedding at the altar is scrutinized.
  • Rory highlights the emotional manipulation involved: "You have something to do" (07:19).
  • Maul expresses disbelief over the producers' decisions, labeling them as mentally harmful: "This is terrible for people’s mental health." (08:05)

• Impact on Participants:

  • The hosts express concern over how such reality shows affect participants' confidence and social lives post-show.
  • Maul criticizes the show's format, calling Nick Lachey "a terrorist" for the manipulative nature of the production (09:01).

2. Reality TV's Psychological and Social Implications

The conversation transitions to the broader effects of reality TV on individuals and society.

• Manipulation and Authenticity:

  • The hosts debate whether reality TV presents authentic relationships or orchestrated scenarios designed for viewer engagement.
  • Rory: "No, that's not right." (07:13) – emphasizing the disingenuous nature of participants' actions.

• Long-term Consequences:

  • Maul suggests that participants may suffer long-term mental health issues due to the show's manipulative environment (09:30).

3. Music Industry Insights: Beyoncé’s Evolving Artistry

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Beyoncé's recent album releases, including "Renaissance" and "Cowboy Carter."

• Album Reviews:

  • Julian praises Beyoncé’s versatility: "It's a sonically genius album." (82:12)
  • Maul commends Beyoncé as "one of the greatest artists that we've ever had, will ever have." (94:24)

• Genre Exploration:

  • Discussion revolves around Beyoncé’s foray into country music with "Cowboy Carter" and its reception.
  • Rory expresses excitement for Beyoncé exploring different genres: "I encourage people that may think that it's not really their type of thing to give it a chance." (87:18)

• Legacy and Impact:

  • The hosts debate Beyoncé’s lasting impact compared to other artists, with Maul asserting her unparalleled influence: "This is the closest we'll ever get to mic [artistry]." (83:30)

4. Eminem’s April Fools Prank: A Case Study in Celebrity Branding

The discussion shifts to Eminem's April Fools prank announcing "Infinite 2," analyzing its effectiveness and reception.

• Prank Breakdown:

  • Rory critiques the prank as misleading: "This was their April Fool's prank, though." (108:27)
  • Damaris finds humor in the prank, acknowledging it as "the best April Fool's prank ever." (109:55)

• Cultural Impact:

  • The hosts explore how such pranks influence public perception of artists and their work.
  • Maul: "Somebody had sent that to me. I was like, there's no way." (108:22)

5. Sports Predictions and Team Dynamics

The hosts engage in a lively discussion about recent and upcoming sports events, particularly focusing on women's basketball and NCAA performances.

• Women's Basketball:

  • Damaris expresses strong support for the UConn women's team, citing their dominance and individual talents like Paige Becker (100:44).
  • Maul and Rory debate team strengths, with Maul favoring LSU: "He's gonna have USC winning it all, no matter what." (101:57)

• Men's Basketball:

  • Conversations include Duke and NC State games, with a focus on player performances and team strategies.
  • Rory discusses the importance of paying athletes, highlighting DJ's success and commercial opportunities: "Players are going to get their value and their money." (102:02)

6. Navigating Personal Relationships and Friendships

A heartfelt segment where Rory shares a personal story about ending a friendship due to unreciprocated feelings, prompting advice from the hosts.

• Conflict Resolution:

  • Rory asks: "How do y'all like navigate maintaining mutual friendships with a group of people if they're still friends with somebody that you no longer with?" (120:28)
  • Maul advises setting clear boundaries: "Sometimes you got to slap the direction director, though." (123:00)

• Maintaining Friendships Post-Separation:

  • Damaris shares her experience of maintaining a friendship after a non-physical romantic encounter, emphasizing mutual respect and understanding (48:36).

7. Understanding STDs: Myths and Education

The hosts tackle misconceptions about sexually transmitted diseases, stressing the importance of awareness and safe practices.

• Myth-Busting:

  • Rory admits his ignorance: "I did not know that syphilis was an STD." (127:17)
  • Julian clarifies: "Syphilis is one of those that can kill you." (129:00)

• Promoting Safe Practices:

  • The conversation underscores the necessity of regular testing and protective measures: "Wear condoms. Don’t wear condoms. Syphilis is out there." (133:06)

8. Humor and Anecdotes

The episode concludes with the hosts sharing humorous stories and engaging in light-hearted banter.

• April Fools' Day Pranks:

  • Maul and Rory joke about listeners falling for Eminem’s prank, highlighting the blend of humor and misinformation in media (117:56).

• Celebrity Interactions:

  • The hosts joke about interactions with celebrities and public figures, intertwining humor with pop culture references.

Notable Quotes:

• Maul: "Clay, you are the sickest dude in television history, bro." (03:34)
• Rory: "You have something to do." (07:19)
• Julian: "It's a sonically genius album." (82:12)
• Damaris: "This is the best April Fool's prank ever." (109:55)
• Maul: "This is the sickest in TV history." (19:10)
• Rory: "Wear condoms. Don’t wear condoms. Syphilis is out there." (133:06)

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Conclusion

Episode 256 of "New Rory & MAL" offers an extensive exploration of reality TV's impact, in-depth music industry analysis, personal relationship advice, and engaging discussions on sports and health. The hosts blend critical insights with humor, providing a comprehensive and entertaining listen for those interested in the intersections of pop culture, personal experiences, and societal issues.

Transcript

[Rory]

And Jarrod has like. Like booty butter in his room. And his friend is like, what the fuck is this? And he's like, that's what I'm banging all these twinks with.

[Maul]

Booty butter.

[Rory]

I guess it's like, you know, for like, anal sex.

[Damaris]

Just, like, lube.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it's like a specific lube for gay anal sex.

[Damaris]

How is there any different than normal?

[Julian]

Maybe it's.

[Maul]

I mean, Exxon is different from Mobile if you. If you know, the gas, like, is different.

[Damaris]

Yeah, true.

[Rory]

Makes the car run into the Gulf.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

How did I get this?

[Damaris]

How is gay booty butter different than just anal? Just.

[Rory]

Well, there's other. There's other types of gay, so why can't there be a gay one?

[Damaris]

Like, when you open it, it's like, yeah, it's probably.

[Julian]

No warrior now.

[Rory]

Me and Flex looking in the index.

[Maul]

For buff net just for some hot butt sex. What.

[Rory]

What made you go with that verse?

[Maul]

I don't. What made you. Yeah, that dude was sick.

[Damaris]

Tell you what, Clay made me like Charlotte.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's. Who made you like Charlotte. You would like. Are we. Are we rolling?

[Julian]

We're rolling.

[Rory]

Yo, dog, out the gate, let's talk about.

[Maul]

No, because last week y'all came. What was it? Last week? Right? Y'all came here and y'all broke down to me. The whole love is blind thing. I didn't never watch it, never heard of it. I was like, okay. Once y'all told me what Nick Lachey had and his wife. Vanessa. Yeah, Vanessa Lachey. We don't talk about her enough.

[Rory]

Charged with crimes against humanity.

[Maul]

Yeah. Like, once y'all told me what they had going on and the new shit that Nick Lachey was out here doing, I said, oh, no, I gotta watch this. So this over this weekend, I watched the last season of Love is Blind, and I don't want to spoil Roy. You don't care. I'll spoil it.

[Rory]

No, please, please spoil it.

[Damaris]

Spoil this shit.

[Julian]

It's old by now.

[Maul]

So now. So now. Yeah, it is old right now. But this dude Clay, bro, to go. He is by far the sickest dude in television history.

[Rory]

That's saying something, by the way.

[Maul]

No, you don't.

[Rory]

Like, sicker than, like, Peak. Stevie J. Stevie J.

[Maul]

Can't hold the candidate.

[Damaris]

It's bad, bro.

[Maul]

Listen, he. So I was. I. So I'll be honest. When I first saw Clay, I said, oh, he's a fuck boy. Off bat. I just got on the radar.

[Rory]

What gave it away? I can tell by this pose he's doing right here with lips that it's giving fuck up.

[Maul]

You know what it was with him, like, when they were in the pod and he was talking to the girl, it just sound like Clay was using all of these, like, therapy words.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Maul]

Like, he was like a therapy robot. Like, whatever his therapist told him, like, he's going in there, you know, he has words of affirmation. He's one of those guys. He had the Bible verses on deck, ready to recite. I said, oh, nah. I'm looking at him. I'm like. Then I'm looking at his whole, like, his style.

[Damaris]

I'm like, the way he dressed, dresses.

[Maul]

I'm like, this is the dude at brunch that every girl stays away from because they already done heard about him. He says the same thing to every girl, but it works. No, Roy.

[Damaris]

But he says the right things.

[Rory]

Yeah. Oh, no, I know these guys.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And Ma, he was like, these are.

[Rory]

Type people that go to therapy just to learn how to manipulate more. No, they're not. They're not dealing with their trauma. They're learning how to manipulate.

[Maul]

Listen, I've been DMing this for the last 3 hours. Had no idea he was following. He told me he was a fan. He was a supporter for years. I said, word. I said, all right. All that. You the sickest dude in TV history, bro.

[Rory]

Thank you for the support.

[Maul]

Just for you. Thank you for the support. Yo, Clay, it's all love. Thank you for the support, but you the sickest dude in TV history. So I'm looking at them the whole time. The other couples was cool, but I was focused on, on, on, on, on. Clay and A.D. right?

[Damaris]

Yeah, this is them.

[Maul]

So once they get out of the pod and they decide that they can see each other, right? AD Comes out. She has this dress on, right? Showing the body. The frame is crazy. Her body. She looks great.

[Rory]

She looks. Yeah, she looks great here.

[Maul]

So, A.D. so Clay, I already know. I'm like, all right. He saw her. He was like, oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, oh, he all in.

[Maul]

He's all in. I'm like, yeah, he all in. He seen that chocolate. He's like, oh, I'm all in. As they started hanging out on, like, the vacation, right, I'm noticing shit. I'm like, this dude ain't gonna make it. Like, they not gonna make it to the wedding, right? I'm like, there's no way they gonna make it.

[Julian]

I'm like, what were the tell all signs?

[Maul]

I just felt like she was gonna start seeing through, like, oh, you're one of those guys?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Like, I just thought she was gonna start seeing through it. Like, yo, you're one of those guys, right?

[Damaris]

He tried.

[Maul]

No, he tried. He. He. He tried. But. But I was. Yo, I was. So when they actually made it to the wedding.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was.

[Maul]

I was like, oh, shit. Like, they surprised. Like, I. I did not think they were gonna make it that far. He. Yo, Clay got. His mom's there, his pops. You could tell he was. He was out in the streets. He giving this nigga all type of riddles.

[Damaris]

Do not fuck with each other.

[Rory]

Ironically, though, I feel like that is a fuckboy move. What, to just always have your parents around to make you look like you're this healthy?

[Maul]

No, no, no, no, no. His parents weren't always. His parents weren't always around. But his pops walked in. You know, his son is ready to get married, so then his pops comes in, and he's talking to him before the wedding. But his pops is one of those dads that talks in riddles.

[Rory]

Okay?

[Maul]

You know, one of those guys that just.

[Rory]

You could just tell him how to manipulate.

[Maul]

Yeah. He told him, my whole life is.

[Damaris]

Just one big mistake.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

Yeah, he's one of those guys.

[Rory]

Right? Gotcha.

[Maul]

But he's trying to make. Right, he's trying to. You know, he's trying to. Now he has a relationship. He's trying to build a relationship with his son. So they walk out.

[Rory]

Oh, wait. He does real estate and investment properties. Big fuck.

[Maul]

No, no, no, no. Listen. You don't even understand.

[Rory]

I'm just going through his ig.

[Maul]

When I saw. When they brought in his home, when Clay brought his homeboys in for, like, I guess, a little bachelor party, he had one homeboy that had the fuck boy couture on. You know fuck boy couture when you see it. Yeah.

[Julian]

Brunch boots.

[Maul]

No, he had. It was worse than the boots. He had the orange beanie with the white T shirt.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah, you know, that's.

[Rory]

That's Lower east side.

[Maul]

With the chokers on, with the chains on.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah.

[Maul]

I said, oh, bro, he brought. He brought the crew in.

[Rory]

Yeah, this is.

[Maul]

These. It sound like he looked like he got. They have a name for their crew. You know, those type of guys say.

[Rory]

They'Re in their little baby era.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah. They got. They got. They got a name for their crew. They look like some of those guys. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, he's not gonna make it to this wedding. Lo and behold, Clay surprises me. AD Got her family there. They picking out dresses. Everything going to moms is there. I'm like, oh, shit, they really lasted, bro. They get up there and start reading they vows. Amber AD Says, I do. I'm like, oh, this is fire. Like, they really gonna get married, man. They got the. Clay Rory, you don't understand.

[Rory]

At the wedding, he has on a hoop earring. At his wedding, of course this wasn't gonna happen, bro.

[Damaris]

At the altar at the. She already said.

[Maul]

She said yes.

[Damaris]

She said, I do, bro.

[Rory]

So they're half married, bro.

[Maul]

They're there like they're married. They can file each other on taxes. At this point, I'm like, this is beautiful, man. Black love. Clay got his mom's there. She crying. Amber's mom is crying. AD Pops is sitting there. He got the look on his face like, he ain't gonna do it. His pops was looking like, ain't no way he gonna do it.

[Rory]

His pops probably talked him out of it right before, bro.

[Maul]

When they got to him and Clay started giving the speech about, yo, Amber, you know, you've been this, you've been that. Yo, I put my bottle of water on the table. I said, this nigga ain't about to do this, yo. He not about to do this. Yep. He's not about to. Not at the fucking altar.

[Rory]

This is why Nick Lachey is the sickest human being, bro. Clay. Clay is a product of his environment.

[Maul]

Clay said, yo, I can't right now.

[Rory]

You have something to do.

[Maul]

I'm like, clay, what else you gonna do? Double book you at the altar? The. The pastor, the reverend is right here.

[Rory]

They were on vacation. Maybe he booked a.

[Maul]

That day, bro. He said he couldn't marry Amber in front of her family like that. Yo, I could not believe he did that, bro. That. That was the. That was the biggest curveball.

[Damaris]

But Maul, did he not after they left? Did he not give a great reason like he says all the right thing?

[Maul]

Listen, listen, we're DMing. And he said. He's like, yo, but I. He said, yo, bro, I thought I had the most logical. I made the most logical decision.

[Rory]

I said, on the altar, makes no log.

[Maul]

I said, you did, but you made a decision at the wedding, bro. When. When he made the decision.

[Damaris]

Awful. But how he justified it makes a lot of sense.

[Maul]

It made all the sense in the world. You can't say that at the altar, though. She has the dress on. Her family is here. Mom is here. Your parents are here. Cousins, home girl. Everybody's right here in front of you.

[Julian]

And that girl before she walked down.

[Damaris]

That he should have done it before the wedding. Yes, I agree.

[Rory]

He knew he wasn't marrying that girl in the pod on episode one. We know why he was here?

[Damaris]

No, but they said when they were living together. Because this is in Charlot. Charlotte. Shout out Charlotte. I love Charlotte. Now, when they were living great city.

[Maul]

When they tried to tell you. To tell you when we went out, great city.

[Damaris]

I felt Clay was there.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Clay went to East Carolina state or whatever it's called. Yeah.

[Damaris]

If I had known, like, because pretty much like, he in the pod and they said when they moved together into Charlotte, they were like, look, if this whole thing doesn't work out, if we don't say I do's, we can still rock together. Right? Mall you said that. He was like, even if we get to the altar and we're not sure, let's still rock this together. We're still a team. Yeah, it was all right.

[Maul]

Bet.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, yeah. Victim blaming. She should have known at that point he was telling her, yo, we're not gonna make it to that altar. And you know he's still cool, right?

[Maul]

Yo, you know what's funny? He tried to. He tried to get the. He tried to get the out when they were, like, out eating, when they were on vacation and they were sitting down, like, having, like, lunch or whatever, he. He was like, yo, I don't want to disappoint you. Yeah, that's his. That was his way of trying to, like. Yeah, that was his way of trying to be like, yo, like, I like you. We cool. But, like, marriage, though.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Maul]

That's heavy.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's the point of the show, Clay.

[Maul]

Nick Lachey is a. He's a terrorist.

[Rory]

Can I get.

[Maul]

We should exact. We should exile him from the United States.

[Julian]

I've been saying that on this show, he doesn't walk up to people with a gun to their head and say, come on my show, these people volunteer to do this.

[Maul]

The only dude sickening Clay was Jeremy.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Rory]

Before we get to Jeremy, can I get the logical reason of what Clay said?

[Maul]

He said that he liked her. He was like, yo, but just marriage. He was like, I'm just not.

[Rory]

And I'm not ready for marriage. Even though I went on a show and had countless times to say, I'm not ready for this marriage.

[Maul]

But he was. He was saying like, yo, you know, I just. I know you wouldn't want me to go. Go through with this if I wasn't.

[Rory]

100% so let's halfway go through with it and embarrass you in front of everybody.

[Maul]

Worst time in the world. His time. It was.

[Damaris]

Did you watch them all?

[Maul]

Hell, no, I'm watching it tonight.

[Damaris]

It's really.

[Maul]

I'm watching.

[Damaris]

He says all the right things.

[Maul]

No, I'm.

[Damaris]

He looks great after the reunion.

[Maul]

Listen, I'm. I'm DM and Clay, like, I'm like, nigga, you was the sickest nigga.

[Rory]

Hall.

[Maul]

Sickest hall of fame. You done the sickest hall of fame by far at the altar, bro. How do you do that, bro?

[Julian]

He did it on purpose. Y'all know what. What he went there for. He did that on purpose. He waited until she said, I do on purpose so that we can be on his. One of his favorite shows, shout out to him talking about it. That knew what the.

[Damaris]

He was thinking about us on the altar.

[Rory]

Yes, he was. He had an earpiece. Producers talking to him. All right, all right. Now, now. Go. Now go.

[Maul]

I believe Nick. I believe Nick told him to do that 100. I believe Nick was like, listen, we go even bigger for the next season.

[Julian]

No, that's.

[Rory]

Clay is a dirtbag, but either way, he was gonna have to do that alter move if he wanted to get out of it. There's no way. Nicholas Shane, his wife were not letting that happen.

[Maul]

Great decision. And then he hit her with some.

[Damaris]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Cause it's just. You guys got to get a taste of this shit. Pause.

[Julian]

Hey, yo, hold on.

[Damaris]

Because he says some shit.

[Rory]

Handsome guy.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

And it's time when I'm not ready to give you 100.

[Maul]

And you wouldn't want that.

[Rory]

You wouldn't want me saying yes and being half ass with marriage. You wouldn't want that. And opposite. I'm not ready for that.

[Damaris]

And, like, I'm feeling bad because I see you crying.

[Rory]

It's hurting me.

[Maul]

Oh, that's. That's out of the boy Bible right here. Seeing you hurt.

[Rory]

It's gonna hurt me more than it's gonna hurt you. Trust me.

[Maul]

Boy 101 make that decision to you today.

[Damaris]

Smoke that.

[Maul]

And it just breaks my heart seeing you like this. Because I love you. I really do.

[Rory]

It's like me saying no was not to you ad like, oh, God.

[Maul]

He.

[Rory]

Looked right in your eyes.

[Maul]

He's reading out of the boy Survivor scrolls.

[Rory]

You're the perfect girl. I've shown up with you.

[Damaris]

Like, I can't be right now.

[Rory]

I'm not a husband right now. I'm not.

[Maul]

I'm not Rejecting you.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Maul]

It's not me. It's not. It's not you, it's me like that.

[Damaris]

I am, you know, I'm not rejecting you. I'm not rejecting you. It just feels like I am while.

[Julian]

I'm in a wedding dress.

[Maul]

He Ice cold Clay. Everything he was missing there was. Oh, he's everything in North Carolina.

[Rory]

I'm still working on myself. I'm not a whole person. I want to be a whole person.

[Maul]

When I stepped to you, yeah, I gotta be whole. Cause you can't take half of a man. You don't deserve half of it.

[Rory]

What percentage do you think you would be, Clay? Are you 60%?

[Maul]

But why 67%? You didn't know that before? We put these suits before?

[Rory]

Before I went on a show based off marriage.

[Maul]

And I ain't gonna lie. I was waiting for his homeboys to be like, yo, fam, I got this suit on out here. Nobody stood up and said nothing. I'd be like, yo, fam, you made me put this shit on. Come over here. You ain't even gonna do this?

[Rory]

They knew they were doing that at the tailor, bro. They just got a free vacation.

[Maul]

Nick Lachey, the producers of Love is Blind. This is terrible. Terrible for people. Mental health. This is terrible for people's social. Like, this is. This is bad. This is going to people up in the long run. Anybody that goes on this show. Back to Jeremy. This. Yo, he. He dumped his fiance. He broke with his fiance. They was at a cookout, broke up with his fiance.

[Rory]

A chick out was in love and was playing.

[Maul]

Oh, no, cuz. Basically, this.

[Rory]

They were at a cookout, bro.

[Maul]

This is the six. This is the sick that they do. They put you in the pod first where you can't see nobody, right?

[Damaris]

So good.

[Maul]

Then they throw a barbecue for everybod. So now y'all all can see each other like bathing suits. Yeah, we all in dating suits. And Jessica walked in looking like a. Oh, my God. Yo, bro, this is the craziest show in TV history. Jeremy broke up with his fiance, saw the girl that he liked. She walks into the cookout, they go to the dock, have a conversation. Yo, they get on jet skis, bro, and start jet skiing around the whole lake after he just broke up with his fiance.

[Damaris]

And homegirls crying on the dock. And they'd see.

[Maul]

You can see them in the background. Jeremy and Sarah are terrorists, and they should be exiled from the state of North Carolina.

[Damaris]

They're still.

[Maul]

Those are terrorists.

[Rory]

Wait, so is Jessica with another dude?

[Maul]

No, Jessica's. Wait, she gonna be with what's the. What's homie's name? Because they huh him. And what's her name didn't last either. They broke up.

[Damaris]

Megan Fox.

[Maul]

Megan.

[Rory]

Megan Fox is in the show.

[Julian]

She was coming from.

[Maul]

Where'd she come from? Where's she from? Tell me where she from, because I know where Megan Fox is from. Where is that girl from? Where's her name? Elizabeth?

[Rory]

Charlotte.

[Maul]

What's her name? Chelsea. Chelsea Black. What's her name? Chelsea What?

[Rory]

Wait, that's. That's Natalie Nunn. That's not Megan Fox, bro.

[Maul]

That is everybody.

[Julian]

I see where she coming.

[Maul]

Where is she from? You haven't answered me yet.

[Rory]

Back.

[Maul]

I see what she's. Where is she coming from? What train did she get off of? How many stops? How long does it take for her to get to the city? Because you know. You know you can see where she coming from. Where is she coming from? Because what's homie's name?

[Rory]

Jimmy.

[Maul]

Jimmy knew from the first time he saw her. Megan. And that's the only reason he chose her. Because if you sit behind a wall and a girl be like, yo, everybody tells me I look like Megan Fox. You're gonna be like, what? Now all you thinking is Megan Fox is on the other side of this wall. Yeah, every guy know Megan Fox is.

[Rory]

She looks like she's smuggling acorns.

[Damaris]

Meanwhile, this was the girl he curved.

[Maul]

That was the girl he curved.

[Rory]

He saw everyone.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no.

[Maul]

After. Then they get the. Then they get. They.

[Rory]

Then he got the bar.

[Maul]

Like, bro. Literally, bro, you don't. This is the sickest social experiment in TV history. This is bad, bro.

[Rory]

Wait, so I just want to make sure Jessica already broke up with her dude and then went with the other breakup to Jet Ski. Or she was still in a committed relationship.

[Maul]

Jeremy. Jeremy and Jeremy. Jeremy and Laura.

[Damaris]

Laura.

[Maul]

And so Jeremy dumped Laura got.

[Rory]

I got that.

[Maul]

And then Sarah Ann was a girl that he had got a connection with in the pod.

[Rory]

Gotcha.

[Maul]

He never saw her. He actually did hook up with a. Hang out with her in person, but he just said he just had a conversation and dropped off.

[Damaris]

Sarah ends in the middle. Laura's on the right here. The up thing is. Yeah. Mall just said it alluded to it. They. When they got back to Charlotte all.

[Maul]

Live in North Carolina, bro. So after the show's over, you don't know what they look like.

[Rory]

You get your phone back four miles.

[Maul]

You go to your Instagram, you're like, wait, this is who she is. So he saw her one night out in the club.

[Damaris]

His, his shorty had Laura has his location.

[Maul]

No, not that. Now that wasn't that couple, was it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, this was them because he drove to her house, remember? And they like talked till 5am yes.

[Maul]

He was sharing his location with his girl. Where he was at. He came home at 5:30 in the.

[Rory]

Morning and everything in Charlotte closes at midnight.

[Maul]

Everything at midnight. 11:15.

[Damaris]

He said we just sat in the parking lot.

[Maul]

Just sat in the parking lot and talked till 5 in the morning. She went upstairs, she went home.

[Rory]

That counts as five bodies to me, bro.

[Maul]

If you didn't, you might as well have.

[Damaris]

For real.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

If you did, at that point you might. 5:30, you coming home, you're getting the.

[Rory]

Same results for me.

[Maul]

That's what I'm saying. It's the same thing.

[Damaris]

I think he forgot that he shared his location with her too because he tried to like get a lie off about that. He was like, he just dropped off.

[Maul]

She lived eight minutes from the party. You didn't drop her off.

[Damaris]

You were there for five hours.

[Maul]

Sick, bro. This show, Love is blind, the producers. Nick Lachey, you are a fucking terrorist, bro. How are you still getting off?

[Rory]

Glad. I've been trying to say this for years. Like, all right, now that you've seen this and we told you about the Ultimatum, the other Nick Lachey show you.

[Maul]

Gotta watch, what do you think?

[Julian]

The Ultimatum is thicker.

[Maul]

It's made him a sicker than this.

[Rory]

That's taking couples from the civilian world. Like they were really couples before.

[Maul]

There's no way there's a show. Sick. This is the sickest I've ever seen in my life.

[Julian]

Made sicker. I promise you the ultimate.

[Rory]

Imagine being in a full blown relationship, not that you met on a reality show. Like you're in a real, real relationship. You didn't do it for the show. Real relationship. Then you go into a warehouse with a bunch of different apartments and then just start switching.

[Damaris]

But how long are the couples together?

[Julian]

It doesn't matter. They could have been somewhere, somewhere together for years. Yeah, that's what I mean, together for years.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Julian]

It's the ultimatum is like we're ready to be married now if you don't propose to me. This is the ultimatum. That's how long these people have been together.

[Rory]

So the ultimatum is either let' swing or let's get married, bro. That's insane to me.

[Julian]

You got to watch the first season.

[Rory]

A bunch of people that aren't swingers are forced to swing to see if they really want to marry their partner. Tell me the good result in any of that.

[Maul]

Yo, who's coming up with these social experiments? This is all Nicholas from Nicholas's brain.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

Like, he. He's creating.

[Julian]

No. No Netflix. And they're, like, showrunners and stuff. Is.

[Rory]

I'm pretty sure him and his wife pitched a lot of this.

[Damaris]

Maybe the first one. And the storylines, I know we just focused on Clay and AD like, the first recap of this shit, but these other story. I'm so glad you know all these people, bro. This is.

[Maul]

No, you don't understand. Like, I was, like, I was invested. I was in same. I was in a lot. I was ignoring calls all kind of. I'm like, look, leave me alone. Like, what the Is going on right now? Jeremy want to date this one? He just broke up with Laura. He's jet skiing with Sarah Ann at this function at the cookout. They in the lake going crazy, but.

[Rory]

Maybe he's trying to respect her. Like, I just broke up with you. Let me just try to. Out of sight, out of mind. Like, let me just hear you.

[Maul]

I can hear the Jack.

[Rory]

I can see the smile on your face.

[Maul]

The.

[Damaris]

The.

[Maul]

The Rip ties are coming all the way over here to where we sitting at on the dock, chilling. Y'all over here doing a synchronized. Yeah, y'all making figure eights all over the place. Rest in peace, Kobe. I'm like, what the Is going on right here?

[Rory]

Making DJ Khaled Snapchat, and then Laura's.

[Maul]

Supposed to sit here at the cookout, act like she don't hear the Jet Skis.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Maul]

I'm like, yo, this is craziness, bro. This is the craziest I've ever. Hey, Clay, you are the sickest in TV history, bro. I cannot believe he did that to that girl at that Ulta.

[Rory]

Yo, shout out ad, too.

[Maul]

Shout out to Amber. You didn't deserve that. Like, yeah, to be standing.

[Julian]

She's still cool with him. They besties for the Resties.

[Maul]

Besties for the. Oh, that means. I mean, Clay put it down telling you that mean he tore that ass up. Yeah, that mean he put it down with Clay. Yeah.

[Rory]

No, she liked him more after he left that whole altar.

[Julian]

Sick.

[Damaris]

They were.

[Rory]

She was on a reality show about a. A pod where you can't see a person to get married. She's just as sick.

[Damaris]

I don't want to.

[Rory]

Let's not act like this is insane, woman.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

I'm sure she started liking Clay even more when he left that Altar.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Watch the reunion mall. You'll like Clay more. He cooks. It's just an hour.

[Maul]

I'm dming him, and I like him more.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He's just like, all right, let's have him on the show.

[Maul]

I'm down to have him on.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Maul]

I'm down. Hey, cut. Bring your ass. Hey, I'm down to have him on, bro. That's the sickest dude in TV history. I thought Flavor Flav was Flav. You ain't got nothing on clay, bro. 100%.

[Rory]

The way guys are describing Clay, I want him as a third mic. I don't even talk about Love is blind. I just want his opinions on everything.

[Maul]

He is the sickest nigga. I gotta know more about how his brain functions. That takes a different type of gall and, like, confidence to bring a woman, her family, everybody to the altar.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

And then be like, yo, nah, I can't. TV or not, I think it's worse when it's gonna be seen by fucking millions of people.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

If it's just the fam, it's like, all right, this is us here. The fact that it's gonna be millions of people watching this shit and you.

[Rory]

Did that, it's going viral.

[Maul]

Oh, God.

[Damaris]

Yeah. There's no.

[Maul]

I don't got that in me, bro. That. That's a different type of person, because I would. I'm the guy. I would have went through with it, and then we would have just had to, like, call it off after. Yeah, I'm not gonna embarrass a girl.

[Rory]

Like that at the reunion. We'd be like, hey, we went our separate ways.

[Maul]

Like, yeah, we didn't make it after the honeymoon. Like, we just decided it just wasn't it. But I can't. But that's the altar.

[Rory]

That's why we would not be on that show, because you have to be a type of person that would do that anyways to be on that show.

[Damaris]

No, we wouldn't make.

[Julian]

We wouldn't. Julia would make it if they were doing, like, auditions. Julian, woman.

[Rory]

If my goal was to be the most famous person on that show, and I knew going in, yeah, I could probably do this.

[Maul]

I can't do that.

[Rory]

That's my goal.

[Maul]

I don't got that gene in me, bro. And that's to a disadvantage. Sometimes I think people that have that gene in them get further in life.

[Julian]

They do.

[Damaris]

Oh, for sure.

[Maul]

I think Gene and not give a about somebody's feelings and act on them in front of me.

[Damaris]

No, that's crazy.

[Rory]

All right. If Your goal, that gene is.

[Maul]

That gene is valuable, but I don't have.

[Rory]

These days, it's probably the most valuable, 100%. I think a lot of the women are just like that, too. So if you find your match in the pod of, hey, let's just try to get as famous as we can to look like the craziest couple, I mean, you found your match, then it's not as fucked up, in my opinion.

[Maul]

But it's different for women, Rory. Women ain't gonna drag you all the way to the altar and do that. I don't think we've ever. Have we seen it. I don't think women. If women get to that altar, that's because they really want to get married. Yeah.

[Damaris]

And of the. It was like, eight couples that made it out, or like six or so. Only two of them made it to the altar. And the other two were, like, madly in love. Love.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

They were so in love, it wasn't fun to watch.

[Maul]

Yeah, that other two, I was like, oh, no. They really, like.

[Damaris]

They really love each other during, like, this wedding ceremony. I like fast forward. It was like, all right, congrats.

[Rory]

Well, again, I watched season one. There was that interracial couple.

[Maul]

I gotta go back and watch all other seasons.

[Rory]

Season one, from the way you guys are describing, this one somehow was a little more crazy. I think there's still that interracial couple.

[Maul]

That this has to be the best. Clay is on this season. He's the sickest in TV history.

[Rory]

What if they bring him back to the podcast? Nuts.

[Maul]

Oh, no, they can't do that.

[Rory]

Gotta give him part two.

[Maul]

They can't do that.

[Rory]

And imagine the girl that's like, yeah, Clay. No, I saw. I watched it last season. I'll date you.

[Maul]

Are you right dating Clay right now in Charlotte, North Carolina, or anywhere he's at North Carolina. Those are the sickest women.

[Rory]

He's. He's tearing up.

[Maul]

Oh, he's. He's cleaning up.

[Rory]

Damaris. Remember the LA Escort?

[Maul]

No, Love a good LA Escort.

[Rory]

Your birthday. Never met her, but she's the girl I'm talking about.

[Julian]

Love is Blind. No, the actual. The real one. Yeah, yeah, the real.

[Damaris]

The real one.

[Maul]

Yeah, the real escort.

[Rory]

So right before your birthday, she told me she was about to go audition for Love is Blind. And I was at the edge of my seat thinking that Love is Blind might have an escort on there. And when she has to tell the people about her past, how that would.

[Maul]

Shift up the vacation, she wouldn't be the first. She wouldn't Be the first escort on a reality TV dating show.

[Rory]

But she's very, like, comfortable with who she is and what she does. So she wouldn't go up there and lie and be like, yeah, I'm just a real estate agent, like, the way a lot of these escorts do. She would have went on that show and been like, yeah, I'm a stripper and an escort.

[Maul]

She would have gave it up from the gate.

[Rory]

Yeah. But I'm sick of this, and I want to get married.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Can you hire her again?

[Rory]

I'm.

[Maul]

I.

[Rory]

Don't get me in trouble.

[Julian]

Okay. Sorry.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Those were different times.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Maul]

Sorry.

[Julian]

My bad.

[Maul]

Family, man.

[Julian]

Yeah, this is all right.

[Rory]

This was, like, three years ago.

[Maul]

Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and Mall podcast. I am Maul.

[Rory]

I'm Rory.

[Maul]

And we are back, man. So, yeah, thank you guys for, you know, laying out the gist of what Love is Blind is. I watched it. I enjoyed it. Didn't see that curveball coming at the end, but great tv.

[Damaris]

Great tv, man.

[Rory]

Ultimatum next. I can't wait.

[Maul]

I'm gonna watch Ultimatum now. Y'all gotta watch Ultimate.

[Rory]

It's crazy how they had, like, to really shift reality shows. People just going to lunch and throwing drinks at each other was starting to get boring.

[Maul]

Yeah. Now, that's not it. There's no fun in that no more. We can see that coming a mile away. As soon as they bring the red drink, it's like, all right.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Why are all these colored juices on the table?

[Maul]

Yeah. Red drink in front of two people that hate each other. Like, all right, I see what's happening here.

[Rory]

I just can't wait till they do, like, the Love is Blind road rules challenge. You know, they always do the spin off.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Or maybe they'll take them to couples therapy for the ones that made it.

[Julian]

Oh, the Love is Blind. Couples therapy would hit.

[Rory]

That would be great.

[Maul]

Oh, they're gonna need it. People are going to need therapy after this because this is exact. This is a social experiment. I think we all know that. But, like, I don't think we're thinking about further down the line, like, what this is going to do to people's confidence.

[Damaris]

Like, and getting left on the altar on Netflix.

[Maul]

Like, how is Amber doing? Is she okay? I don't. I don't. I don't know anything about her. Like, ad. Is she, like, fine after this? Is she, like. I know I said her and Clay.

[Rory]

Are friends, but now she has more exposure to find someone. Not like Clay.

[Damaris]

Clay.

[Rory]

I'm sure her DMs are filled with other boys saying they're not like Clay.

[Maul]

Exactly.

[Rory]

I'm not like the other guys.

[Maul]

Yeah. I'm nothing like Clay.

[Rory]

I could see that you're a queen.

[Maul]

I would never do.

[Rory]

You watched a reality show, sir.

[Julian]

But I think. I think that Clay is probably getting the. You know, that there's some demons that are like, oh, he did that to her. I got some shit for him. Like, there's women.

[Rory]

I'm gonna really her over.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm gonna really get her to love me.

[Maul]

Yeah. That's what it is.

[Julian]

I'm gonna really get this.

[Maul]

Oh, he got that off. Oh, I know. I could get my off. That's all. It's a lot of those out there now. Now he got that off. Or I could definitely get mine off.

[Rory]

She's doing white Henning ads. Yeah, she's doing great.

[Maul]

She's doing inside.

[Rory]

Wait, how is that hating?

[Damaris]

No, it's all right.

[Maul]

How does she feel on the inside?

[Rory]

That's a bouncy.

[Maul]

Like, how do you know she's feeling like, you know, she knew Clay for three days. Well, yeah, but they fell in love.

[Julian]

Great skin.

[Rory]

Yeah, she's beautiful. When did they fall?

[Damaris]

Sweetheart, too.

[Maul]

They fell in love in the pot. Why you hating, man?

[Julian]

Such a hater.

[Rory]

I could tell by Clay's earring that he was hoping she was white, period.

[Julian]

I ain't gonna be the one to say it.

[Maul]

No, no. He saw that chocolate come out there. He was. He was.

[Rory]

He was. All right, good. All right, now.

[Maul]

He was happy to see her. Like, when he saw her, he was like, oh, yes. All right, cool.

[Rory]

Like, just someone with that haircut, that earring from Somerset, New Jersey.

[Maul]

I just.

[Rory]

I just feel like he loves White Ruckers, girl.

[Maul]

Nah, I didn't see that.

[Rory]

Okay. I could have Clay up. Sorry. Clay still want you on the show.

[Maul]

No. When she walked out, he was. You saw his face. He was. He was. He was. He was satisfied.

[Damaris]

He was happy. Oh, wait. This was. This was the day of all the drama. This was the late.

[Rory]

Oh, wait, you could pull the jet skis right up to the.

[Damaris]

Yes, bro.

[Rory]

Right up to the fire pit, bro.

[Maul]

You don't even understand. They was out there. Jeremy and Sarah. That's.

[Damaris]

That's Laura. That's Megan Fox. That's the.

[Rory]

It's not Megan Fox. That's Natalie Nunn.

[Damaris]

That's the girl that got actually in love.

[Maul]

She's in love.

[Damaris]

She was just like.

[Rory]

It was a great body language. She was not with the rest of those Hoes.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

She's in for the long.

[Damaris]

For real. They're all like, stress and invented. She's like, huh? She's like, can't relate. Like, now and then.

[Maul]

Any girl that wears heels in the sand is a different type of woman.

[Rory]

Yeah. They were already married at that point.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah, her man. She wasn't trying to impress nobody.

[Julian]

So y'all think Gerard and Tyler should.

[Maul]

Go on here now? I saw that on the timeline. Right.

[Rory]

I watched the whole episode.

[Maul]

I saw that on the timeline. I didn't watch the episode.

[Damaris]

What's it on?

[Rory]

Hbo, Max.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

It's a reality.

[Maul]

Was it real? Was that real?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

100 real. For those that don't know, Gerard Carmichael has a. A reality show, but they shoot it in a cool way. You don't get, like, full reality show vibes from it. I like the first episode. Obviously, the biggest factor of the first episode was the Tyler and Drod Carmichael conversation. But before that, at the beginning of this episode, Drug is about to get nominated for an Emmy. So he texts Tyler, yo, sup, fam? Sup, bro? Would you like to come to the Emmys with me? And then for. We follow Jerrod for an entire week while he constantly checks his phone for Tyler to reply, which he doesn't. He does stand up every night and just talks to the crowd about Tyler, the creator, not replying to his text message about the Emmys.

[Maul]

Oh, so Jarrod really likes Tyler. He has a crush on him.

[Rory]

We'll get there.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So in between all of that, I find out that Gerard Carmichael might be the biggest hoe I've ever met in my life.

[Maul]

Well, we already had.

[Rory]

While he's waiting for the love of his life to reply, he is fucking guy after guy. He's on Grindr the whole time. You see about 17 different guys come in and out of his hotel room and they fuck.

[Damaris]

You still gotta get his nut off.

[Rory]

I mean, I feel him. Especially when you're hurt and can't be with the person you really love. You just kind of have to fuck through it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I respect it, but I did not know that Grindr was just a fuck fest. I apologize for all the dating app jokes I've made. The gays are giving it up. I don't know. Just because Gerard is an attractive guy.

[Maul]

So maybe it's not only that. It's just the fact that he's a God. There's nothing horny. There's nobody horny. They're two guys.

[Rory]

That is true.

[Maul]

A gay man, a Gay single man is the horniest species on the planet.

[Rory]

While nominated for an Emmy.

[Maul]

Oh, the gay hurt. Oh, the horniest. The horniest species on the planet by far.

[Rory]

But how quick it happens. Like, it's like 5am in his hotel room, and by 6am just some dude from Grindr comes in. Mind you draw. Doesn't even have his own photo on his grinder. He just has his, like, six pack.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

And the producers are like, so you didn't even, like, like, want to know, like, what he looked like? And the dude, like, pulls up his grinders like, no, I just saw his stomach and I was. I was ready to go. I was like, this. That happens.

[Damaris]

That's sick.

[Julian]

So y'all are telling me this isn't.

[Rory]

Please get tested. And that's not a game. That's just a casual look at.

[Damaris]

Just like a photo of tits and been like, oh, bet. Let's run it. Like, I wouldn't even. Yeah, do that. That's not enough.

[Maul]

But I keep telling you, a horn. A gay single man just looking at the man. They don't give a.

[Damaris]

Looking at a belly button.

[Maul]

Yeah, they don't give a.

[Rory]

But I will say, post casual sex in the gay world is really cool. Like, they had a really nutritious breakfast. Like, they giggled. They were kissing each other in front of the producers. They just met. Like the gays are. They have it figured out. That seemed like the healthiest random hookup I had ever seen in my life.

[Maul]

All right, so he.

[Rory]

They respected each other. They cared for each other's feelings. And then when it was time to work, the gentleman left.

[Maul]

So he has a. He has a real crush on Tyler.

[Rory]

Yes. So after his fest for five days, Tyler then finally replies, I think the day before the Emmys, and goes, gotta shoot. That's lit. That's his reply to fucking.

[Maul]

I have a shoot. I have a shoot. But that's lit. That you have.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it was, like, kind of cryptic. What you said is what I think he meant. I'm not available. I have a shoot, so I can't come. It's great that you're nominated for an Emmy.

[Maul]

So Tyler curved the Emmy. Yes. For his. Whatever his shoot is. Is.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Maul]

So then we can assume that his shoot wasn't as big as the Emmys. Right.

[Damaris]

What if it was that recent Louis Vuitton campaign they just put out?

[Maul]

Yeah, that's different.

[Rory]

You never know.

[Damaris]

Pretty big.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And like, I don't know, just to go to the Emmys as Tyler feel like that's a Whole thing.

[Maul]

And I was like, I ain't gay.

[Rory]

He did. First of all, he didn't present it.

[Maul]

As, like, I will unalive.

[Rory]

Be my date. He was really.

[Julian]

Isn't he.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he's gay.

[Julian]

Tyler's bisexual.

[Maul]

Is he?

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's.

[Damaris]

He came out on the Fly Boy album.

[Maul]

I don't see. Because Tyler, he's. That's. I with Tyler, great. I think he's dope. But that's.

[Rory]

But he'd be putting the gayness now.

[Maul]

No, he just. It's just that. I don't know. I don't know if he's using that as if he's joking. If he's serious. He drops little bars here and there. You like. Like, what is that? Like, why would you throw that bar?

[Rory]

I think a couple things can be true. I think he trolls our generation because we come across so homophobic. And he thinks it's hilarious, as he should. The way he did like to flex, where flex is like, what the fuck? Like, clearly.

[Maul]

Why would you.

[Rory]

Why did you. Why did you choose that book? But listen to what Tyler was saying. Let's.

[Damaris]

He's, like, looking for rough necks.

[Rory]

We know that was just a troll. See?

[Maul]

And it is funny because Flex is older, so that's like. He's a different generation. He don't know that part of hip hop. He like, yo, wait, what makes you sure? I'm sure you had other bars that you could have gave us right there. Why would you land on that?

[Rory]

But from what I've gathered, I do think Tyler is bisexual. I think.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I think it's safe.

[Rory]

I've been giving it, like, a lot.

[Maul]

Of thought, but that's what I'm saying. The fact that you have to think and you don't know, it's just like. That's why I can't. It's like. Like, bro, what's up, man? Like, cut the shit.

[Rory]

Are you also not really our business?

[Maul]

No, it's not our business, but if you gonna throw bars in there and do that, it's like, okay. Like, yo, you. If. If you was to start singing like that with those lyrics, I would be.

[Rory]

Like, you have some questions?

[Maul]

Yeah, I'd be like, yo, Rory, you gay?

[Rory]

I like forest guns.

[Maul]

Okay, that's fine. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just like. I don't know what Tyler like. Is he. That's why with this. I thought this was all a stunt. I didn't know if this was.

[Rory]

He even said it, which was great.

[Damaris]

Hold on.

[Rory]

Me and flex looking in the index.

[Maul]

For buff net just for some hot butt sex.

[Rory]

He said.

[Maul]

He said like.

[Rory]

He said just it.

[Damaris]

Reaction.

[Maul]

Oh, that's the sickest. Yo, and Tyler stopped doing like, can you.

[Rory]

Can you pull up? Can you pull up? Tyler? Vince Staples, freestyle.

[Damaris]

Oh, I love that. Well, yes. Hold up.

[Rory]

He starts saying, me and Vincent having threesomes. Vincent's like, no, no, we're not having threesome. Tyler.

[Maul]

That's what I'm saying. With Tyler, I feel like he's trolling, man. I feel like this is just all jokes, man. I don't think he's gay. I don't think he's bisexual.

[Rory]

No. But if you listen to some of his act songs where he's not like making jokes, the I'm sorry record, how.

[Maul]

You know he's not making a joke then?

[Rory]

I don't think he was joking on the I'm sorry record where he's talking about his relationship with his mom and then apologizing to women that he let on and didn't know he was switching by coasts. And like, he does some wordplay to say sorry to all the women that thought I was straight. Yeah, I dudes too.

[Damaris]

And on Garden Shed, on Flower Boy, that was like the song that he really opened up. That was like his coming out out publicly, which was in like, what, when was flower boy? 20, 19, 2017. Pre pandemic. So he's been like, open for a.

[Rory]

Bit and I think it's great that he hasn't done some whole, like, let's stop everything we're doing and I'm gonna make a video about how I'm gay. Like, he puts it in his music and like Gerard and just like, well, Gerard is also stand up. Like he can do that in his stand up and it's a thing. That's fine. That's his version of music I'm talking about. Like, they don't have to do a tick tock video to announce they're gay. Like, they just put it in their. Their music and go about with the jokes. So after he gets turned down from Tyler to go to the Emmys, he talks with like, his friends and everything of, like, I like Tyler a lot. I told him that I had feelings for him. He replied with lol, you stupid. In a voice note. Gerard texted him, like, months and months ago. This was before the Emmy thing. He was just explaining to his friends how long this has been going on.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yo, Roll, I've like, I think I have feelings for you. Would love to talk about whatever. Tyler sends a voice note back.

[Maul]

Wait.

[Rory]

Hahaha, you stupid bitch.

[Maul]

Wait. He texts Gerard Carmichael, I have feelings. Well, Gerard text Tyler, Hey, I have feelings for you.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

That he sees him more than just a friend. And then Tyler sent a voice note back saying, hahaha, you stupid bitch.

[Maul]

So here we are. So then Tyler thinks the same with Gerard. That I think of Tyler. I think he's trolling. I think he's joke. He's joking.

[Rory]

Like I think. I think this was actually a big confirmation that Tyler is bi. Gerard is this very close friend. They've been friends for a very long time. I don't think he'd be shooting at his friend if he didn't think his friend was interested in men. Like, that'd be crazy. Like that's like shooting at your. Your lesbian friend. Like, what are you doing? If she was bisexual, you may think you may have a shot. But if Tyler was just straight and was girls, I don't think Jarrod, his very close friend, would have been comfortable saying, I, yeah, I have feelings for you. So he then takes like another three days to try to put together this voice note to ask Tyler to come on the reality show to have that conversation. They then have it. And that's with the clip that went viral where Jarrod is trying to have a serious moment and Tyler is just laughing through the entire thing. He's ordering food.

[Damaris]

He farts.

[Rory]

He. He farts on the producer and then closes the door. Let's watch a little bit because I want you to see that.

[Maul]

But then I understand why he curved it then if we. If we good friends, it's like, bro, I'm not, I'm not with you.

[Rory]

I don't want to misrepresent Tyler because he was joking and everything, but I could see how uncomfortable he was and rightfully so. Yeah, he's trying to just avoid the whole thing.

[Maul]

Yeah. Because they're friends.

[Rory]

Yeah. You're my friend even says like, you're like my brother. Like, I consider you family.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Is that. I kind of felt like just look.

[Maul]

At how it's face between us. I have an idea of what it is, but what I think is because I told you I have feelings for you and you. We didn't talk about it ever. That was like weird.

[Damaris]

I don't know if it was just too awkward to talk about or too. I don't know.

[Maul]

I don't know. It's just like I feel like you left me hanging out there a little bit. Like, like when you said that I think I replied with, like, something.

[Rory]

They chopped this up to make Tyler look actually better regular.

[Maul]

Like, you laughed and called me stupid.

[Damaris]

He goes, I did.

[Rory]

Up. Yo, is this sicker than Love is Blind?

[Maul]

Yeah, this might be sicker, bro. Getting curved.

[Rory]

And then while he's doing that, he puts his hands in his face. And then Tyler starts laughing at the whole room and then asks the people to bring the food in and then starts eating salmon with his hands. Well. Well, it's just awkward silence.

[Maul]

He's eating salmon with his hands.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Paint your nails to go turn your gay friend down is kind of crazy, though.

[Damaris]

Look at him offering his.

[Julian]

This is so awkward.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's pretty gay.

[Damaris]

But wait, this gets even.

[Rory]

I don't want any of that. I'm cool. I feel like the comedian and Gerard would love this, though.

[Maul]

Thank you.

[Damaris]

Because I'm done with that.

[Rory]

I gonna finish that.

[Maul]

Oh, I wasn't implying I wanted it. No, I don't want any of that. I'm big straight. I'm big straight on that.

[Julian]

Like, straight on that.

[Maul]

What are you seeking? No, I think he's saying I'm big straight. Like.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no. Way more.

[Maul]

That's.

[Rory]

That's Poor's Alert.

[Maul]

Big string on that.

[Damaris]

What are you seeking in life or on this plate?

[Julian]

There's no way.

[Maul]

This.

[Julian]

This has to be satire.

[Maul]

This has to be satire in life on this plate. Yeah. Cuz I need to know what you asking me right now, homie.

[Damaris]

The natural.

[Maul]

What are you seeking in life on this plate? Because I'm done with this plate.

[Rory]

And I didn't want your dessert either. Seeking the bathroom, maybe.

[Maul]

Big street.

[Damaris]

Big street. I'm big straight wave already. Ready? It gets better.

[Maul]

Go get some more of that butter. Okay. It's gonna be a fart, like 30 seconds. I just don't want to kill us.

[Rory]

This is sicker than clay.

[Damaris]

We blacked it out.

[Maul]

Didn't want the light to shift. Oh, sorry, dog. He just leaves him in there with the fart. It was a baby one anyway. He did.

[Julian]

This is sad time. This is not a reality, Yo.

[Maul]

It's crazy. Why? It's crazy how much Gerard looks like young dolphins, man.

[Rory]

I've never thought of it. Yeah, he does.

[Maul]

Yeah, they look just alike. Thanks for dinner. I'mma hate you next week. That's how it ends.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's how episode one ends, so.

[Maul]

Oh, this might be the greatest show on tv.

[Julian]

Like, people are like, this is real. This can. No way. This is reality tv.

[Damaris]

It's. I have to see comedy.

[Rory]

It's not like a binge show. Only episode one is out right now. Which I watched. Okay, I have to see episode two before I agree with Damaris. Are they trying to, like, do a spoof on reality TV or his, like, maybe they're just going in and out of it. Like where Lana was like, like real. And then it would do like magic and like. Are they trying to do a reality show that also has fake scenes that are satire and sketches after looking at that? Because the rest of the show was very much reality tv. I mean.

[Maul]

Nah, I know that.

[Rory]

Unless he wasn't really banging those guys.

[Maul]

No, I know that energy that Gerard was sitting there with. I had a girl sit across from me just like that, with her legs crossed like that. Like hunched over face and palm sit.

[Julian]

Been there.

[Maul]

Yeah, he's. No, Gerard was dead serious.

[Damaris]

He was mad.

[Maul]

Like he was trying.

[Julian]

Also an actor and a comedian.

[Maul]

Yeah, but he wasn't acting right there. He really liked Tyler. Like, if Tyler been like, yeah, like, nah, let's see where this goes. He would have been all the way.

[Damaris]

But if he knows Tyler, he knows Tyler's. That's not his type. Tyler likes white guys. Yeah, he likes like 95 Leo. That's like his whole thing.

[Rory]

He seven white guys before Tyler sat down in that same seat Tyler was in.

[Damaris]

That doesn't disprove my point.

[Rory]

They could do a thruffle with. With a white guy.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

Twink's dream.

[Maul]

A what?

[Rory]

I learned that. That word on this show.

[Maul]

What's a twinks?

[Rory]

It's what gays are.

[Damaris]

No, what do you think a twink is? I would like your definition before we tell you.

[Maul]

Yes. A Twinkie.

[Damaris]

Twix. Oh, a Twinkie.

[Maul]

A Twinkie is a all time classic.

[Damaris]

A twink is like a young, hot.

[Rory]

Gay guy and Jarrod has like, like booty butter in his room and his friend is like, what the is this? And he's like, that's what I'm banging all these twinks with.

[Maul]

Booty butter.

[Rory]

I guess it's like, you know, for like anal sex.

[Damaris]

Just like lube.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it's like a specific lube for gay anal sex.

[Damaris]

How is there any different than normal?

[Julian]

Maybe it's.

[Maul]

I mean, Exxon is different from mobile if you. If you know the gas. Like, it's different.

[Damaris]

Yeah, true.

[Rory]

Makes the car run into the gulf.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julian]

How did I get this?

[Damaris]

How is gay booty butter different than just anal?

[Rory]

Well, there's other. There's other types of. So why can't there be a gay.

[Damaris]

One, like, when you open it, it's like. Yeah, it's probably.

[Maul]

Probably.

[Julian]

I'm sorry.

[Rory]

It's. It's rainbow color. Comes in different flavors.

[Julian]

Julia, stop speaking. Please stop speaking.

[Maul]

What makes it gay? You open it, it goes.

[Rory]

Yeah, can open it like this.

[Damaris]

It can only be unlocked.

[Rory]

It's got a sensor. And you just do this over it.

[Maul]

Yo, y'all don't feel like. Seriously.

[Rory]

But it could be safer for the. For the anus. I don't know.

[Maul]

Listen, between us, in here, people can hear and see this. Y'all don't think. Y'all don't think 2024 is starting off as the wildest year ever?

[Rory]

It's up there.

[Maul]

Y'all don't think so?

[Rory]

And with an election at the end of it, this is the craziest year. We're just filling up the time when the craziest is.

[Julian]

It's a leap year.

[Maul]

This is April. We're in April, bro. First, this is the craziest ever, man.

[Damaris]

It is April Fool's Day, guys. Happy April Fool.

[Rory]

Well, all right. Before we move on, have you guys ever been in that position? Not, like where your gay friend tried to see if you were gay or not, but a friend said they had more feelings for you?

[Maul]

Yeah, I've been in that position.

[Rory]

Does that ruin the friendship? Because how can Jarrod even go to a Igor show now?

[Maul]

No, he doesn't.

[Rory]

He may ask for his publishing.

[Maul]

I think it defers for me when.

[Damaris]

He'S all over that album.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

When one of my homegirls came at me like that, like, let me, like, she wanted to, like, change the dynamic of our friendship, and I declined. It made it weird for, like, the first couple months, but now it's like, it's all good. Like, now we laugh about that shit.

[Julian]

Now she looking back like, God damn, I dodged a bullet.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But you never got physical with her ever, right?

[Maul]

No.

[Damaris]

Okay. Cause I feel like once that barrier is crossed, then. Yeah, it's hard to.

[Maul]

Once you cross that. That barrier with a friend, like a girl that you were just cool with, and y'all crossed that barrier. It depends, bro. Like, it can go either way. It can be, like, really cool after. Same shit, nothing. Or it can be, like, so awkward. You don't have the same friend that you once had. It wasn't worth it because it's like, now I don't even have, you know, my homegirl anymore. Yeah. So it just depends. It depends on your relationship, if your relationship is strong enough to handle that.

[Rory]

Not every movie is Brown sugar.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, it doesn't always end.

[Maul]

Does not end like that.

[Rory]

Yeah, I wouldn't even. I've never been in that position. I also wouldn't know what to do. And then I'd feel even, like, creepier if I was into it, because then that was never like. Like my friend.

[Damaris]

No, that doesn't discredit.

[Maul]

That doesn't mean that. That doesn't mean that. I think that if it is good, it's because y'all have such a chemistry as friends, which is what you and your. Your partner should have.

[Rory]

But not just my friend. Like. Like, I've always had women friends, and they've just been their friends.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

What it is. Yeah. If I'd, like, just start them, then I'd start questioning, were we friends like that? Because now that there's a whole nother aspect to it.

[Maul]

Yeah, but that doesn't.

[Rory]

I mean, there's nothing wrong with that if it works. I just.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I've never viewed my female friends that way. So now it's like they're telling me they want to or try, you know, try to talk a little bit past being friends. It'd be weird.

[Maul]

To me, it's only weird I would.

[Rory]

React like Tyler did.

[Maul]

Yeah. But it's only weird if it's like. If it's that friend where you're like. Like, I'm just not attracted to you like that. But if you have a female friend that you are attracted to, like, we all have. We can. We know when we're attracted to somebody, whether it's a friend or not. It's like, yo, I'm attracted to this person.

[Rory]

Okay. But there's. I have female friends that I find attractive, but not in a way to act. Yeah. Like, not. I know. That's a pretty girl. Yeah, I'm aware of that. But that's not something I'm pursuing or want. And that's.

[Maul]

So you've never had a female friend that was. Was one physically attractive and two personality? Everything was dope and.

[Rory]

Yeah, but just not for me.

[Damaris]

I had a situation where I met.

[Rory]

A girl, and also, I don't think every woman wants to sleep with me.

[Maul]

No, I'm saying if she. If it got to that point where she said she wanted to.

[Rory]

I see.

[Maul]

Like, she said it.

[Rory]

I guess I'm questioning myself because I've never been in that position, and I don't know. And I've only viewed friends that way. But I do have female friends that I do think are attractive, but I've never. It's Never crossed my mind to do that because we've never even had those conversations. Or the energy has never been that. If it shifted. I don't. I don't know. Yeah, I might be. And then I'd start questioning myself, like, what the am I doing? I might be like, this is supposed to be my friend. I wasn't supposed to view you this way.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then I'd start feeling sick. Like any attractive friend, like, why am I her friend? I just start questioning myself. It'd be two weeks of therapy for sure. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I had one close situation. The girl I met through a group of friends was in a relationship, but they were at the end of the relationship. She was very vocal about breaking up with him. And we were friends. Started off as friends, and then when they ended, we were like. We didn't go on an official date, but we would all go out as a group. And one night she slept over at mine. I think we made out. We didn't have sex. And then like a week tattoo best. Yeah, it was great.

[Maul]

You make out and y'all. Y'all take it all the way there.

[Damaris]

Made her coffee in the morning.

[Maul]

Oh, man, that's the best.

[Damaris]

It's beautiful.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So I woke up in the morning, I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, I like where this is going. And then like a week or two later, she got in a whole ass relationship and I was like, well, so I never beat. But it also didn't ruin our friendship. Like, nothing really happened. We just like kissed, made up. We're still cool.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So. Yeah.

[Rory]

And that's forgivable for the new boyfriend.

[Maul]

Yeah, he got it.

[Rory]

Yeah. Well, even if he did, he can't.

[Maul]

Get mad at that. Yeah. What is he going to do? We jumped that.

[Rory]

I don't know. Your man's with the Lululemon is untouched, man.

[Maul]

We'll break what's his name?

[Damaris]

How. What do we call him?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Maul]

Fabio. Will.

[Damaris]

Lance.

[Rory]

I just remember him as a Lance.

[Maul]

We'll beat the brakes off of Fabio.

[Rory]

Well, either way, I say don't your friends. But if you find them attractive, maybe it could work.

[Maul]

It depends.

[Rory]

I do love that scenario when like, like you have a girl that is a friend, but you've never really established if we're gonna fuck or not. Like, it is still that gray area. Like we're not friend zoning each other, but no one's ever spoken about anything sexual. Like, it's still open. If we fucked, it wouldn't be weird. Yeah, I enjoy that type of friendship.

[Maul]

I enjoy that type of friendship. But it's just funny because I've been on both sides of it. Like, I've been on the side where we were friends. We started as friends, it got physical, and now we're friends again. It's all, everything's good. And I've been on the side where it was like, we're friends. She let me know that she wanted to take things further, and I'm like, nah, I can't do that. And then it got awkward after that because now she knows, oh, he knows that I would. I would fuck him. So I'm just like, but why does it have to be weird? Like, it's all we adults.

[Julian]

Like, well, women don't handle. People don't handle rejection well.

[Rory]

Yeah. About to say men don't handle.

[Maul]

But it's not really. But is it like with this Tyler and Gerard shit? Yes, it's rejection. But if we're friends, we're supposed to laugh at that rejection because it's like, bro, the rejection is because, like, yo, we. We too cool for like, well, nah, we not. I would never do that. We not taking it there.

[Rory]

So it's a different.

[Maul]

It's not a rejection like, yo, ill like you. I'm not attracted to you. Get out of here. It's a rejection like, yo, nah, we come on, we like family. We not doing that.

[Rory]

He has every right to feel hurt because he, you know, he has feelings for Tyler. Over the years, they became close. But you can't get mad at your friend for reacting that type of way.

[Maul]

No, no, no.

[Rory]

It's also your show. It's not like Tyler brought you on his show and that conversation ensued and he put it out. You asked him. I'm glad he was honest. But you can't be mad at your friend like, bro, I look at you like, legitimately, like my brother and family for the years we've known each other. I thought it was clear when I said lol, stupid the first time.

[Damaris]

It's an amazing response.

[Rory]

And then I'm sure Tyler, he was calling him his brother and his family. I'm sure he feels weird because now it's like, damn, I think I just lost my friend because he wanted to be more than that. And now, now I don't even know how to act around him. Gerard was my guys around him. Like, now what?

[Damaris]

I don't think Tyler will feel away moving forward. It's all about how Gerard responds to him.

[Maul]

Like, Gerard was sitting there. Gerard was sitting there like. Like they already did something. Now he's trying to figure out, what are we like? Gerard had the what are we like? I don't think body language.

[Damaris]

Tyler's really not a tr.

[Maul]

I'm not saying they did, but that was the energy Gerard had. Like, he was trying to figure, like, all right, so where do we go from here?

[Rory]

I'm not putting any freak offs on any of their jackets. I'm talking about all consensual orgy. I think there could have been a night where they had some of the fellas and some of the. Some of the girls at a house. And yeah, maybe they, as friends, participated. And then draw was like, oh, okay, so he does kind of see me physical, and I really like him as a person. I'm with Maul. I think they maybe had one little interaction one time. Maybe it gave him the confidence to be like, maybe I could be with Tyler.

[Maul]

Or maybe they did with Julian do it together. Maybe they made up.

[Damaris]

Sorry, what?

[Maul]

Maybe they made up.

[Damaris]

Oh, I was.

[Rory]

Has Julian made out with his male friend?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I'm saying, like, no, I get the.

[Maul]

I get Julian situation. Yeah. Maybe they had a make out sesh.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Did gay friend just make out the way, like, girls pretend they're gay? Like, that's a good question.

[Maul]

Men make out with. And you know how you do? No, you go in the spot. I'm saying you'll make out with 10 girls in a row without.

[Damaris]

Without.

[Maul]

So imagine a man that likes other men. Imagine two. Two minds that are like that, but they're attracted to each other.

[Rory]

When I was outside. Don't feel ashamed. I was. I love to make out.

[Damaris]

I'm not a makeout guy.

[Rory]

Oh, I am. Really?

[Maul]

Yeah. We go out.

[Damaris]

Well, on the road. We've gone out a bunch. Have you ever seen me kiss a girl in public?

[Maul]

No, but I've never. I've never seen you, like. Like, when we were out. I've never even seen you trying to really get at a girl, though. Well, that's because, like, I've never seen.

[Rory]

You in black rooms.

[Maul]

Yeah, we're in black clubs. I've never seen you in that bag. But I think that if you was. If we were out and, like, you. You kind of was, like, getting some chemistry with a girl in the spot. I think you. If me and you was, like, standing by the bar and you're talking to a girl and y'all was, like, hitting it off, I think you would make out with her right there.

[Damaris]

It's situational, but, like, that's not my move. I wouldn't like, look for the makeout.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I would try to push that all off until we leave the venue.

[Maul]

Okay. Why?

[Damaris]

I don't like doing like that in public. It's weird.

[Maul]

You don't, like, I'll calm your ass.

[Damaris]

I'm not gonna, like, stick my tongue down your throat.

[Maul]

Is it because you don't want to, like, ruin your shot with somebody else that might be in the room?

[Damaris]

It's an optic thing for sure. Yeah. I'm not gonna put all my eggs in this basket.

[Maul]

Okay. List. I go to. I go to Whole Foods.

[Rory]

Speaking of, in my. My early 20s, my go to move was asking a strange girl like, so what are we? And that was when you just met her? Yeah.

[Julian]

You thought that was so serial killer.

[Maul]

What are we.

[Rory]

We're Every time.

[Damaris]

So what are we?

[Maul]

We're drunk.

[Rory]

No, I'd say it's sober breath.

[Maul]

You're getting to sober. What are we off is. Wow.

[Rory]

Like, we just met right up to campus. What are we like, I need to get like. I'm tired of not having a title anymore.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Stop stringing me long.

[Maul]

Yeah. I can't keep going to class.

[Rory]

When I was in my early 20s that worked with chicks that were in their early 20s, they found it funny.

[Maul]

And cute, and now they're all married.

[Damaris]

When's the last time a guy, a girl or a guy said to you, I had a dream about you last night?

[Maul]

I just got that off.

[Rory]

You just got that off Off? You too old for that.

[Julian]

You too old.

[Maul]

But I did, though. It was. I really did, though.

[Damaris]

Genuine dream.

[Maul]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm not. Wasn't lying. I was. I really.

[Rory]

She.

[Maul]

I saw her in my dream. I don't know if it's because we was just, like, texting, like, a couple days ago, but I saw in my dream.

[Rory]

What was she doing in the dream?

[Maul]

It was weird because she had. She had ran past me, and I was like, yo, where you going? Like, she just ran. And I was like, you going like, why are you running? It was. And it wasn't even a place to be running at.

[Rory]

Did you check your dream book to see what it meant?

[Maul]

Which a dream. You think I have a dream book?

[Rory]

Next on the nightstand, next to your poop. Next year. Jesus feast and hand sanitizer.

[Maul]

I think that's what you think I'm big, Gerard. That's what you think. You think I'm big.

[Rory]

Next to your booty cream.

[Maul]

What is it? Booty butter.

[Rory]

Booty butter.

[Damaris]

Jesus. Next to the booty butter.

[Rory]

That's wild out on Easter.

[Maul]

Do y'all know that Biden signed a bill?

[Julian]

You're wrong.

[Damaris]

Here we go.

[Julian]

Just be wrong.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, go ahead. Let him.

[Maul]

Did he.

[Damaris]

What. What's the bill about?

[Maul]

What didn't he sign a bill for, like, trans rights or something on. On Easter?

[Rory]

Easter's not on the same day.

[Damaris]

Oh, here we go.

[Rory]

No, he did it from March 31, like, period.

[Maul]

Oh, I thought he signed.

[Rory]

This is.

[Damaris]

No, it's always been Fourth Sunday or whatever.

[Rory]

The.

[Damaris]

That bill was passed in, like, 2018 or 19.

[Maul]

So what did he just sign?

[Rory]

He can't hold a pen. He didn't sign.

[Maul]

That's valid.

[Rory]

He did the PDF. Fake stuff.

[Maul]

That's valid. It was electronic.

[Damaris]

He checked the box.

[Rory]

What's that doc? The doc where you just click sign.

[Maul]

Electronic signature on a law by a decade.

[Damaris]

The transgender day of visibility started in 2009. So this has been around for a very long time.

[Julian]

It's on March 31st every year. But the thing is, this March 31st happened to be Easter. Easter.

[Rory]

And this is why I never want to hear the right. Say fake news to me again. Because you guys do the exact same thing.

[Maul]

I just. Somebody had sent that to me. I was like, there's no way. That's why I was asking. How did y'all know about that? Because that's. If that was real. That's insane.

[Rory]

Finding a way to be outraged on Easter is crazy.

[Maul]

Finding a way to be outraged is crazy.

[Damaris]

When I heard trans visibility day, I thought it meant everyone would flash their piece.

[Maul]

I could see why you. I can see now. I can see why your brain went there.

[Damaris]

Could you Visible, right? Just so you could see.

[Maul]

If it's there, let us know.

[Damaris]

Now we know. Going into the next far.

[Maul]

Yeah, I get it.

[Damaris]

Whether you know. Yeah, you fillet it.

[Rory]

How was everyone's Easter?

[Julian]

Did you dress amara up?

[Rory]

She had her Egg Egg hunter shirt on.

[Maul]

Is she a little Easter bunny?

[Rory]

Yeah, we put some.

[Maul]

Some ears on her.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

She did an Easter egg hunt. It was fun, but, I mean, I don't know. And she's not gonna remember. It was for us.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Everything now is just for us outfits.

[Maul]

I spent half my Easter watches watching Lovers Blonde blind. It's okay. Easter is blind. The Easter bunny is blind.

[Julian]

That makes sense, though, right? That's why we gotta find his eggs.

[Maul]

Exactly. And the fact that bunnies don't.

[Rory]

Jesus healed the blind man lay eggs.

[Maul]

Is even funnier, but okay.

[Rory]

I actually have no idea what the bunny and egg connection To Easter is.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, the origins aren't as exciting as you would think.

[Maul]

We talk about this every year.

[Rory]

Do we?

[Maul]

Yeah, we definitely talk about this.

[Damaris]

Well, it's a symbol of new life, I guess. A bunny.

[Rory]

But it's just weird that. I mean, I don't know. I guess Christmas is the same way where it's a legitimate religious holiday about something specific in a religion, and then we throw a Christmas tree, Santa Claus, and then Easter Bunny.

[Maul]

Add some characters to the story.

[Julian]

Capitalism.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Symbols are important because, like. Yeah, What?

[Maul]

I mean, you need it. You need something to attach to the story.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Didn't, like, the coke come up with Santa or whatever?

[Julian]

I'm sorry, the coke, like the.

[Damaris]

The painting of, like, the. The cartoon figure that we know of Santa. I know St. Nicholas was a thing, but I think the vers celebrate was developed by an ad agency.

[Maul]

Makes sense.

[Julian]

Oh, wrong coke.

[Damaris]

Oh, not that. No.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Maul]

No, that's the old jewel.

[Damaris]

That's the snow.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That powers the sleigh.

[Julian]

That nigga's spitting.

[Maul]

No, he's not.

[Rory]

All right. Before we get off Easter, my dad sent me this photo yesterday. This is what was happening in the 70s, what they were doing to children.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, they all look like.

[Rory]

That's not terrifying to you.

[Julian]

That's awful. Yes, Pretty awful.

[Maul]

Yeah. That bunny looks like a.

[Rory]

This looks like therapy for years.

[Damaris]

They all look like victims.

[Maul]

This is like Scared straight in the 70s. This is scared straight in the 70s.

[Damaris]

Is that head paper mache? What is that?

[Maul]

This is the 70s.

[Rory]

No. Or maybe late 60s.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

This got late 60s.

[Maul]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rory]

This dip. This would terrify me. I could not believe, like, people waited in line in New Jersey to do this.

[Maul]

Well, that's your dad.

[Rory]

My dad, that's my Uncle Paul and my Aunt Mo.

[Maul]

Well, they don't look like they're scared at all.

[Rory]

Kids are different, man. Now I understand why he calls my generation. If I saw this thing I'm running out of the mall.

[Maul]

Yeah, yeah. If I'm a kid. I'm not. I'm not sitting next to that if I'm a kid. No way.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's sick.

[Maul]

That's hilarious.

[Rory]

And you. You have to think that the guy under that. That is a serial killer for sure, right?

[Damaris]

Oh, pedo breath wreaking like Jack Daniels. Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

He actually didn't even know it was Easter. He just happened to be in the mall.

[Maul]

He's on work release. That's his work release job.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's his community service hours in the late 60s.

[Rory]

You know what you had to do to get locked up and then at work release, you had to actually kill a bunch of people.

[Maul]

That's a fact.

[Rory]

But I'm glad everyone's Easter was great. Shout out to to Jesus for, you know, rising and then leaving again.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, we don't really talk about abandonment issues. Yeah, no. Really talks about the. The double dip.

[Rory]

He just said like hi to his mom and then when back, so I bet to be with his pops went.

[Julian]

On a land like that one.

[Rory]

Do you think maybe it was like a custody battle?

[Maul]

And who won?

[Rory]

I mean, God finally won. He went to his mom for the weekend three days later. Yeah, and then he's been with dad ever since.

[Damaris]

Nah, he'll be back though.

[Maul]

One day.

[Damaris]

Totally.

[Julian]

He on his way.

[Damaris]

There's no way he's not coming back.

[Rory]

Well, according to one religion, we're still waiting for it. What? Ben Shapiro said it, not me.

[Maul]

Oh, man, y'all are sick.

[Rory]

Anyways, what else do we have so I don't have to get into Gunna and Chloe Damaris?

[Damaris]

Well, we were talking about it before we started recording, but we briefly mentioned how Ma was getting killed all weekend.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was great. I love whenever they I'm all ass. And then Mall goes in the comments to try to double down on, like, what he was saying, and they just get on his ass more.

[Maul]

It's like all I said was it was a better record.

[Damaris]

No, and then you said, these are the same people that said Quavo's bigger than Chris Brown.

[Maul]

Oh, y'all, I'm talking about.

[Damaris]

No, see that.

[Rory]

All right. What I didn't understand.

[Maul]

Y'all said Quavo was hot. Y'all really said that?

[Julian]

Let's not get off of that. Let's stay on.

[Rory]

No, no, no, no.

[Maul]

Nothing you say is valid after that. Nothing you say is valid after that. Nothing this.

[Julian]

Nothing you say ass about.

[Maul]

Nothing you say is valid after that. You lost your validation. You said Quo's hotter than Chris Brown.

[Julian]

At the end of the day, he's not. Okay, that's cool.

[Maul]

He's not.

[Julian]

And Drake lost that battle.

[Rory]

Now you're being real clayish right now. You're manipulating the conversation. You do that, but I think for the first time ever. And Maul's going to deny it. I think the comments may have started to get to him for the first time ever.

[Maul]

How, Cuz?

[Rory]

Why did we catch a fucking stray in that? We weren't coming at you, right? All of a sudden you pointing at us like, well, what about them and Quavo Quavo. I was like, damn.

[Maul]

Yeah, because you said.

[Rory]

You said I didn't shoot at you.

[Maul]

You said it was an L. Yes, I was. We were having a healthy conversation, all in harmony. Like, y'all was harmonizing that Quavo's hotter than Chris Brown. Y'all harmonized that. Y'all harmonized that. That Drake took an L in the Pusha Beef.

[Damaris]

Okay, Drake also said he took an.

[Rory]

L, but we had that conversation in that video you shooting at the comments. What about Julian, Rory and Jamari?

[Maul]

Hold on. But why y'all don't talk about. When I said like this, though, it's debatable. That meant it was debatable.

[Rory]

You're on the Internet.

[Julian]

We asked you to explain the debatable. And then you and I said D.

[Maul]

Was a better rapper record. Is it not? Oh, now you're quiet. Now you're not harmonizing. You. Boy, y'all kill me, man. It's just a generation gap.

[Rory]

I just didn't even understand why we were attacked in the comments when you were being attacked by other.

[Maul]

I told you because y'all was harmonizing that Drake took a L. Your harmonized.

[Julian]

L, but you a random take that Drake took a L. Everybody, I'm responding.

[Maul]

To the people in the room. I just said it's debatable when I went like this. Right, Damaris? That means that's debatable. That's what this means. I doubled down that it's debatable. I think, in my personal opinion, I think Duppy was a better record than anything Pusha designed and tailored towards. Great.

[Julian]

So let me ask you a direct question. Cause you like to hop, skip and jump around.

[Maul]

I don't hop and skip nowhere.

[Rory]

Do you think I like Toppins?

[Julian]

Do you think that Pusha won the battle? Yes or no?

[Maul]

No, I don't.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Damaris]

And that's where we disagree.

[Rory]

And I don't think this is a generation.

[Julian]

Nobody's arguing that Duppy isn't a better record than Story added on. Nobody's arguing.

[Maul]

Why do y'all think Pusha won the beef? Because he dropped the Drake didn't respond.

[Rory]

To the last record and went on the shop and replied that way. Yeah, I said it pretty.

[Maul]

So that means he lost because he didn't.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

So. So let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. So if I'm the top dog, right?

[Julian]

And this was more disrespectful than the last.

[Rory]

And you said you. You had a record recorded, but it was. It went too far. So you decided not to put it.

[Maul]

Okay, so, so. So let me ask you a question. So if you drop a record, right, and I don't respond to that after I responded to whatever you dropped before that, that means I automatically lose rules.

[Rory]

No.

[Maul]

Is that the rules over there?

[Rory]

No, it's not. But we're saying it's a different circumstance where Push did reply to the Duppy freestyle, and Drake said he recorded a verse, said it was too far, so he didn't put it out, and that J. Prince told him not to play in the mud with the pigs or whatever Houston proverb he said. And then he went and sat in a barber chair and replied there. He did not reply in rap caps. If he would have shut the fuck up, period, I think you would have had a better case here.

[Maul]

But why you got to shut the fuck up? He could talk about the. The moment. Just because he didn't put out a record that he has, like, that means they don't never talk about it again.

[Rory]

Don't talk about the record you recorded and didn't put up. To me, that's a L. Okay?

[Maul]

And I respect that, too. If that's an L, that's a L. I'm not. I'm not arguing that.

[Damaris]

I think so.

[Maul]

I'm just talking about the music that was released.

[Rory]

He summed it up very well. I forgot what pod he was on, but he summed it up well of why Drake took an L. When he went on the shop, he was arguing with LeBron and them about the rules of battling, that you can't go and talk about my friend's sickness now. It's too far. It's not a rap battle anymore. And Styles was saying, yo, you're a pop artist. Even though you are from hip hop, you're still a pop artist. You can't come down here to what where we play and then try to change the rules. That's a L. And I think Styles summed that up very well.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

And I don't think it's a generational thing. Rell agrees with you all the time when it comes to old Rel. Did Drake lose that battle? It was close.

[Maul]

Answer the question.

[Julian]

That pissed me off.

[Damaris]

That's crazy.

[Julian]

Question. Answer y.

[Rory]

Who was closer? I like whoever has the biggest song.

[Maul]

Who?

[Julian]

Who won the battle? I don't care what you like.

[Rory]

I'm going to say I'm going more with Maul. I don't think.

[Damaris]

Oh, see? Hi, fam.

[Julian]

Why you asked a lightskin ng opinion. That's why we don't listen to them to begin with.

[Rory]

And Takeover is a better song. Ether was a better battle record. It's a difference.

[Maul]

But because. But it was a battle. Better battle record to you because Ether was directed solely towards Jay. Takeover was multiple people that he tailored.

[Julian]

That for, just like Duppy Freestyle.

[Maul]

You.

[Julian]

You're saying that Pusha lost in that battle, but Drake barely addressed Pusha. This is a Kanye diss.

[Rory]

Yeah. And.

[Julian]

And Pusha got a couple shots in, like, this is a Kanye diss. This is not a oh, I demolished Pusha Diss. No, he demolished Kanye. But he didn't demolish Pusha.

[Maul]

Pusha.

[Julian]

He barely addressed Pusha.

[Rory]

Yeah, there's only a few shots there.

[Maul]

Do y'all see why he barely addressed Push It Up? Can y'all see that? No, I can't.

[Julian]

Of course I'm done.

[Rory]

I get it.

[Julian]

I am.

[Maul]

What are you doing? Why are you so hyped?

[Julian]

Success now. And you see the.

[Maul]

The.

[Julian]

The gaslighting that he does because Maul literally gets hype and yells at us all the time.

[Maul]

When y'all were saying, like, Quavo is hotter than Chris Brown. Dumb.

[Julian]

You yelled when we were having.

[Maul]

That was the craziest I've ever.

[Rory]

He wasn't hot enough to stay on Dreamville Fest.

[Damaris]

I was gonna say they had to drop him because the tickets stop.

[Rory]

Not Chris Brown. No one's going to see Chris Brown. They should replace him.

[Maul]

Quo.

[Rory]

Instead of 50.

[Damaris]

They put 50 on there.

[Maul]

Instead of Chris.

[Damaris]

Well, that. They replaced 50. Yeah.

[Rory]

Something happened. They didn't say why, but unforeseen circumstances. Chris can't make Dreamo Fest, so they put.

[Maul]

Okay, so say that 50.

[Damaris]

And honcho huncho, which I thought was Quavo for a minute, but I guess there's an artist that's Sexy Red's baby father.

[Maul]

Right? Huncho, I think.

[Damaris]

No idea.

[Rory]

No. No idea.

[Damaris]

This is the new lineup. It's really just the two of them. Gotta Money Long.

[Julian]

Money Long got taken off, which makes me sad, but yeah.

[Rory]

Sizzling 50 Cent one day for headliners is crazy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Sexy. Yeah. It's gonna be a great day.

[Maul]

So the Huncho guy that's not Sexy Red's baby father?

[Damaris]

I have no idea.

[Julian]

Huncho is not Sexy Red's baby father.

[Maul]

Are you sure about that, or you.

[Julian]

Just saying no, I'm positive.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Maybe they dated.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I'm going to Dreamville Fest.

[Rory]

You excited?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Surprisingly, first time I. I still haven't made it down there.

[Rory]

It's a found time.

[Damaris]

I hope Clay goes in North Carolina that is.

[Rory]

That is true. You could. Clay is clearly a music fan.

[Maul]

Invite Clay to Dreamville fan.

[Damaris]

I will.

[Maul]

And see how that go.

[Rory]

Why?

[Damaris]

What do you mean?

[Rory]

That's a good two man weave right there.

[Maul]

Bottles at that. He ain't hit them text messages they love.

[Damaris]

He's. No, I think you got him up. I think he's cleaning up in North Carolina. Carolina.

[Rory]

I think he is too.

[Maul]

You think so?

[Julian]

I think from North Carolina. That's gonna swing on him.

[Rory]

Anyways. Drake lost.

[Maul]

And if you're going.

[Rory]

And if you're crazy and if you're gonna go with the push.

[Maul]

On the level.

[Rory]

He went after Kanye. Why is he not going after Kendrick? They're on the same level.

[Maul]

Well, he. Damn the battles. The battle that people want is not going to happen, though. It's not gonna happen.

[Damaris]

Insider trading?

[Maul]

No, it's just. It's not gonna happen. It's just not. I don't think it's gonna happen for just many reasons, but it's stupid. It should happen. I think we did. We. We need to see. For this generation, we need to see the best go at it like that.

[Julian]

Okay, so.

[Maul]

But I think it's just too much business.

[Rory]

And can we like have a rap battle that. That doesn't like, that isn't based off real gang violence?

[Maul]

That's why I would want this one.

[Rory]

Like, can we just like rap?

[Maul]

That's why I would want this one. One.

[Julian]

So you're saying this.

[Maul]

How they gonna come at you with silly rap feuds trying to distract you, bro. In disguise. Hold on. And disguise in the form of a favor.

[Rory]

You know why Jay is a snake?

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

Cuz Jay did that to Drake. After he wrapped that to Drake.

[Julian]

He was the first one.

[Rory]

I think he lived his. He did that exact thing. He told Drake that would happen and sent Meek Mill on a dummy mission to go do that.

[Maul]

Oh, y'all are talk. See, this is you. You gotta. You gotta stay off that part of YouTube, bro.

[Rory]

In my head first.

[Maul]

Well, keep that theory in. You think that Jay Z. That Jay Z sent Meek Mill.

[Rory]

Yes, I do.

[Maul]

To go at Drake. You're crazy. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Rory]

Yeah, Rory.

[Damaris]

Rory said 30 for 30 is.

[Julian]

Rory jumped out the window a little bit with that one. I was with him.

[Maul]

But stay off that part of YouTube, bro.

[Rory]

I'm not saying Jay sent him to put those tweets out.

[Maul]

That's exactly what you said.

[Rory]

But I know Jay was on his line immediately saying, finally, someone can go after. After Drake. And was fully behind me. Behind the scenes. All right, so you think Drake is lying in this verse.

[Maul]

So let me ask you.

[Rory]

So you think Drake is a liar?

[Maul]

Let me ask you something. Let me ask you.

[Rory]

Drake is a liar.

[Maul]

I'm trying to ask you something. I'm just trying to ask you.

[Rory]

I'm making sure you can't ask it.

[Maul]

No, I'm just trying to ask you.

[Rory]

This is how you argue.

[Maul]

You think that the. The rapper mind of Jay Z. You think the guy that knows rap and knows lyrics and. And all of that, like Jay does, you think that the opponent that he picked is sought out. That said, yo, this is the guy that could take down Jay.

[Rory]

I'm tired of making this point. Why are we rewriting history? History. He's not sending 2024 meek at Drake any. Meek at that. We didn't know who was at the time mystique of him. And then we found out who he was.

[Maul]

I just said the guy that knows rap, that knows rappers, that can hear, that can hear a rapper and know what his ability is.

[Rory]

If. If we're looking at Jay's older lens, and I'm not saying that in a bad way, if you don't write your rhymes, that's an L. Immediately, Meek had the streets. We looked at Meek as a good rapper at that time. We thought he was battle testing. Meek had all the energy around him. Jay in his brain. Of course we think he's smart. He's not right about everything. I think he thought, yeah, Drake has a stain that he didn't write.

[Maul]

I like that.

[Rory]

I think, yeah, of course.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

He thought, yeah, that this would be a way to diminish and put a stain on.

[Maul]

You can say anything after you say that. I think he thought.

[Damaris]

Because, like, we can be honest. I think everyone I know, I certainly did. When this whole beef started, I was one of the people that was like, oh, Drake is going to get washed. This is. This is Meek's world. I think a lot of people had that same opinion.

[Rory]

Clearly they were wrong. But I'm saying at that time, people.

[Damaris]

Thought that at that time, 100. I thought Meek was going to piece him up.

[Rory]

And I think Jay for this. Jay, being the petty individual that he is, had love for Drake. But rap is still a sport that he was involved in. He was the goat at that time. Still is. Yeah. These young kids that may have a chance at coming up to my legacy and they're not writing their rhymes. Yeah. I'm gonna send my soldiers at him to try to get them.

[Julian]

I'm sending my soldiers what's the point.

[Rory]

Of having soldiers if you don't use them?

[Julian]

I don't think he was a soldier.

[Maul]

But I didn't the time that he sent his soldiers. Wasn't J. Cole signed to Jay?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

Why wouldn't he send J. Cole?

[Rory]

Cause J. Cole didn't jump out the window and tweet Quentin Miller's name.

[Maul]

So you think that because. So you think so in your brain you think that when Meek did that, Jay was on Meek.

[Rory]

No, I said after Meek did that.

[Maul]

I think you think Jay was on his line like, yo, go get him.

[Rory]

Yes, probably I do.

[Maul]

Y'all is crazy.

[Rory]

So do you think Drake is a liar? I think Everybody top of 30 for 30 freestyle. You think it's about Meek Mill?

[Maul]

I don't know who this is about. Don't care who this is about. You just told me that J read it.

[Rory]

You're better at reading.

[Maul]

Never thought I'd be talking from this perspective, but I'm not really sure what else you expected when the higher ups have all come together as a collective with conspiracies to end my run and send me a message. 40. Did you get the message? Because I just checked my phone and I didn't get it.

[Rory]

You thought 40 was in the group chat.

[Maul]

I mean, I say hats off for a solid effort, but we didn't flinch for a second. We got our shit together.

[Rory]

This is a great verse.

[Damaris]

I mean, he's not talking about Meek.

[Rory]

And then he continues on to talk about, we haven't seen you since January, we're going to retire your jersey, you're in the raft. Like, this is about Jay Z being behind Meek and doing some shit behind the scenes to try to get. Get Drake the out of here. When that Quentin Miller.

[Maul]

Can I ask you something? What would. What would Jay get out of getting Drake out of here?

[Rory]

Being the goat.

[Maul]

He's still the goat.

[Rory]

Okay, but at that time.

[Julian]

At that time, what?

[Rory]

Drake looked like a very formal opponent the way his career was going.

[Maul]

So send Meek. Why not? I go right at him?

[Rory]

Cuz he would look crazy.

[Damaris]

No, but also if you talk about.

[Rory]

Same way we talked about. Everyone has been waiting for excuse to go at Drake in this whole future metro shit. Now people are unfollowing him that didn't like him before. Now everyone feels comfortable saying something. Meek jumped out the fucking window with that dumbass tweet. And now Jay was like, well, now we have a reason to try to go at him and put some stain on a career that has been unfucking touched. Since so far gone the Barzini meeting.

[Maul]

Watch for the traders. Jay told you all he gave you this on the first album.

[Rory]

He told Drake what he was going to do to him.

[Maul]

I just. I don't know, man. I. I want the battle to happen because this will be one of the best that we probably ever will get with Kendrick and, you know, Drake and Cole. I think that Cole is still gonna drop his. His album, though.

[Rory]

You Never flew over Chattanooga trying to spread the movement.

[Damaris]

I love. That's what I love about Drake because he'll. He'll lace like eight bars of just piecing someone up and then just throw in a line about eating well done seared scallops that were to die for.

[Rory]

I love 30 for 30, but I.

[Damaris]

Got bigger fish to fry. Try.

[Maul]

You see? You see where the scallops and the fish go hand in hand, talking bigger.

[Damaris]

Than you and I. Back to Jay. See, we had the scallops. Now we're back to Jay.

[Maul]

Oh, the bigger fish. Yeah, the big fish.

[Damaris]

Biggest fish.

[Rory]

Kids are losing lives. I'm scared of losing mine.

[Maul]

I do want. I do want this to happen. I want these records.

[Damaris]

Can we just do an episode? We just read Drakeley.

[Julian]

So. So just to clear. I just want to keep clarifying this for the listeners. So you're saying if he does not respond to Kendrick and everybody's like, oh, you lost, you know, that's the asterisk. Whatever. Do you agree that that's a mark? Kind of like the ghost writing? Do you agree that that's just a little. A little mark next to his name when we're talking about greatest of all times?

[Rory]

Yeah. Drake is still. If he doesn't respond, still a living legend. But yeah, if he doesn't respond, there's a mark.

[Maul]

Future verse.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, yeah. And you're shooting Travis's head at the concert.

[Damaris]

IG captions, well, that's been debunked. I guess that's a motion that he does at every show.

[Rory]

Damn it, bro.

[Maul]

This is. And this is what I'm saying about that.

[Damaris]

It's the captions that are getting the picture.

[Julian]

Caption, get over it. If you got to stand all your shit, then just ignore.

[Rory]

If Drake's going to reply, get your IG captions, bro.

[Maul]

If anything Drake does now, it's because Kendrick has him rattled. If he. If he walks out of his hotel tomorrow and drops a bottle of water in his hand. Yo, look, Kendrick is all in his brain, living rent free. Free. It's like everything this nigga does, y'all think he's thinking about now he has a record ready to go it. That's a fact. He, Drake has a record done.

[Rory]

You can't be. You can't be doing cryptic IG captions after Kendrick goes at you. And Puffy is doing the Diddy walk on his doc after Homeland Security like he doesn't have a care in the world. Diddy's dancing. You can't look perplexed off a verse.

[Damaris]

His last caption since the release was, you boys ain't. And these are all just photo dumps from the tour. You boys ain't no businessman. And then he says, I could never see y'all out outsell my latest work. Never do you bad out the blue. But I'm down to make it worse with a little party emoji.

[Rory]

You know, I took that as well.

[Maul]

Took that as what?

[Rory]

He's going to reply.

[Damaris]

They'd rather go to war with me than admit that they are their own worst enemy. Hey, Kendrick laughing emoji.

[Maul]

If by any chance you happen to.

[Rory]

Hear this podcast, drop the recommend while doing burpees piece.

[Maul]

Yeah, drop the record. Let's just have this. Let's have this moment for just hip hop culture.

[Damaris]

And just so you're saying, Kendrick goes another one before Drake gives us one.

[Rory]

I feel like that window is kind of closed.

[Maul]

What window's closed?

[Julian]

The back to back.

[Rory]

The back to back window. I don't know. Beyonce dropped. It was Easter, maybe this week.

[Maul]

I ain't never seen back to back. I ain't never see a fight where a smack a game be like, come on, hit me back and then I'll hit you again. What type of is that swing again then? Cause that little you put out wasn't. That wasn't enough to get two of the best to come jump out the tree.

[Damaris]

You keep saying he never said his name. Drake never mentioned Meek's name or Push's name in either of his disses either.

[Julian]

But he won.

[Maul]

But you. Come on, fam.

[Damaris]

What?

[Maul]

Come on, fam.

[Damaris]

This was a shot.

[Rory]

So, no, I'm still dissing me. He's dressing like a dirt biker every show. He still won't let that beef go. Yeah, what's he need that vest for? For?

[Maul]

I just want to hear these records, man. Cuz the that everybody else is putting out is irrelevant right now.

[Damaris]

It is.

[Julian]

Calling Beyonce irrelevant. Crazy.

[Maul]

No, I'm talking about rap. Let's not be crazy. Let's not be crazy. We talking about rap. Talking about rap.

[Julian]

Talking about hip hop in this.

[Maul]

Talking about Hip hop.

[Julian]

Yee haw.

[Maul]

Speaking of Beyonce record, I didn't listen to it.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

Damn. Love is blind had you in a choko.

[Maul]

No, but I told y'all. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't really run to, like, the female R B.

[Damaris]

Just women.

[Julian]

Too bad album. It's not R and B album.

[Maul]

Well. Well, she's an R B artist. Well, is Beyonce.

[Rory]

Do we have no pop artist? She just.

[Maul]

She's just an artist now. Yeah, she's.

[Rory]

Dolly Parton addresses that on the album, actually.

[Damaris]

She said she doesn't like genres.

[Maul]

Yeah, Beyonce. Beyonce is bigger than just at this point.

[Rory]

Damn it.

[Maul]

But I did see everybody. All the ladies on the timeline going crazy over this album as soon as it dropped, but I just haven't. I just didn't give it a listen yet. But everybody seems to love it. Everybody seems to think that Beyonce did a great job. I don't know how y'all feel about it, Emeris.

[Julian]

So I. It is not one of my favorite Beyonce albums, but I think it is one of Beyonce's best albums, if that makes sense. Sense. So it won't get as much replay value from me as some of my favorite Beyonce albums. Lemonade being my favorite Beyonce album. But I think it is her best written album. I think it is one of her best produced albums, and I definitely think that it's the album of the year contender. I. I know enough music where I can listen and be like, oh, this is a sonically genius album. It's so. Like, she's on there doing opera in Italian.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

She got the classical singer's gag, like, cultural culture.

[Damaris]

What you doing?

[Rory]

I love this album. I'm just talking.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's insane. Her. Her talent is insane. And I think Beyonce has reached. She's been there for a while, but, like, this really just solidifies it. She's reached that point that Jay hit where his fans can't relate anymore because he's too talented and too cultured. And I think it's like. Like, if you don't want to understand.

[Maul]

This album, they'll get it in a couple years. They'll.

[Julian]

Yeah, they'll get it in a couple years. Exactly. Like, she's way above anything that the. The average ear, the casual fan can even understand.

[Damaris]

You're not like that.

[Julian]

She's the artist. She's the musician for the artist. Like, I've been. I've had this album on repeat. Shut up.

[Damaris]

We got a higher trained year over Here.

[Julian]

No, I'm not. I'm an average person. But I've had the album on repeat because every single listen, I'm catching different things. It's going to take me longer because I am a casual listener to catch things that a classically trained ear would catch on the first listen. I've had it on repeat. Just trying to understand it. And this is not me dick sucking. This is like just the girl deserves her flowers. Like, she's amazing.

[Rory]

Interesting point of saying she's got to the point where Jay was. Where it was just unrelatable. The Magna Carta era of Jay, where it's like, we understand that you are rich and can afford paintings that we can. The Basquiat show, where I think Beyonce has probably looked at Jay's career and made the right moves was with these acts.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Cuz what album is Beyonce going to make at this point? Another four. Like, we know she makes incredible pop music and R and B music. What would be a reason for Beyonce to get back in the booth? All right. Lion King soundtrack. Cool. She's never done a soundtrack. That's a checkoff. I can now get into my afrobeats bag. Like, I can experiment here. Let's do three acts. First one's going to be dance. I've never done that. I have a lot of gay fans. It's giving her a reason to get in and actually be relatable and push her career forward.

[Maul]

Because after you do like four and all different parts of her fan bases.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, if you went, all right, four would be the peak, I think, of the Beyonce pop time. Then she got into the Beyonce self titled album, which to me was like her grown woman. Don't look at me like I'm old. I can still do sexy shit even when you're married. Like, it was a good album for. For that type of work woman. Lemonade obviously gave her a reason. Yeah. You know the elevator.

[Maul]

When life hands you lemons.

[Rory]

Yeah. She's continuing to find ways as a legacy act to make albums for her fans that push her career forward, which I think so many people struggle with, especially older rappers, because again, I don't want to hear people talk about how much richer they are than us.

[Maul]

Right.

[Rory]

Like, that's not a thing. Thing. So I think she's handled her second half of her career better than any artist I can think of. Period. That's including the mics. It's including everybody. She's handled it the best. I do like this. I'm with Damaris. It's definitely gonna Take a while. If you don't have a trained music ear, myself included, to really get everything. But they do dumb down country music in a good way. For the casual fan that doesn't like.

[Maul]

Country, you make it palatable.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, it is very much, much current pop just with country elements in it. You're not like, just thrown into a country album and you're forced to like it because it's Beyonce's voice. It feels like a Beyonce album, and I enjoy it. I think I'll probably listen to this one more than I will to renaissance, but that's just based off what I do in my day to day life.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, only complaint with the ax. And I don't know if it's a complaint necessarily. Every Beyonce album, I can listen to top to bottom. Bottom, but I can pick songs that I love. Like, y'all just want to go listen to this Beyonce song real quick. Act one, Renaissance and act two, Cowboy Carter. I have to listen from the top to the bottom. There's not like songs that I am like, yo, I have to go listen to this. Or I can start the project here. Yeah, you kind of. You have to listen to it from top to bottom.

[Maul]

So she's. I think. I think it's safe to say that this is the closest we'll ever get to mic.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

As far as artistry, as far as talent, as far as star power, as far as presence, as far as impact, I don't think that we'll see anybody. And I know, you know, know the Swifties want to throw the hat in the conversation, but what Beyonce is doing and. And her talent level is just on a different level, I think artist, artistry, wise.

[Rory]

Well, with the mic thing, choreography is super important. And Beyonce's.

[Maul]

Well, that's part of being.

[Rory]

That's part of kind of have to.

[Maul]

Part of being an artist is your performance.

[Rory]

I respect Taylor Swift's musical ability. I respect her star power. I respect her sales. I respect her music. But she doesn't have that last one that Mike and Beyonce have. As far as choreography in a show.

[Julian]

Like show performance, the ability to sing, we. Okay, sorry.

[Rory]

Not. Not my cup of tea, but I know plenty of people that think Taylor Swift can sing.

[Julian]

No, she can't sing. She can't sing.

[Maul]

There is a sing and sing.

[Rory]

Beyonce can't sing.

[Julian]

Come on now.

[Maul]

Beyonce can sing.

[Julian]

And that's not a knock to. To Taylor.

[Rory]

Miley went crazy on this. Yep. What did I tell you, Damaris?

[Julian]

You liked it. I. I was thinking about you when I listened to it. Levi.

[Rory]

When I saw Post Malone on the feature list, I was like, what's good? Like, do I really want to hear this? But I know I'm going to end up liking it. That was on repeat. That Post Malone record is so good.

[Julian]

Somebody said it sound like she made Post Malone shower before he. She got the poof with him sometime in the car.

[Rory]

I was like, okay, Post, so what.

[Julian]

One do you think? Which one do you think is going to the song that cleans up for awards? I think it's going to be between YAYA and the Miley Collab.

[Rory]

I was going to go with the Miley Collab just because of the names, but you're saying cleans up in the Country Music Awards or cleans up like Grammys?

[Julian]

Just period cleans up. Period. Fuck the Country Music Awards. Just period cleans up. I'm going to go with. With Yaya and that Two Hands to Heaven is one of the greatest songs I've heard in a very long time.

[Rory]

That's probably my favorite record record on here. Yaya to me. Remember we came in here and I was like, Texas hold him to me was a little too cheesy country. I would have preferred her put yaya in that two pack with 16 carriages. I get what you're saying, like Texas hold'em. It's cool in the sequence, but it is still like. I like it more to like. I feel like I'm at like a. A resort that does like the country theme. Like it comes across like fake.

[Damaris]

Like Saddle Ranch.

[Rory]

Yes, like, pretty much.

[Julian]

They gotta play that at Saddle Ranch.

[Damaris]

Gimmicky country.

[Rory]

Yeah. I think I'm with you on YAYA and the. What's the name of the Miley record?

[Julian]

Two Most Wanted.

[Rory]

Yeah, that record is hard.

[Julian]

That, that, that record draws some emotion. Like a lot of these songs on here drew some emotion out of me. Daughter did. Obviously. 16 carriages is still one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. Two Hands to Heaven.

[Maul]

Two Hands to Heaven. I like that name.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's. It's a beautiful song.

[Rory]

Do you think they maybe lean into like Tyrant or some of the covers just to have that moment at the award show?

[Damaris]

Jolene.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like, I'm not a fan of the Jolene cover.

[Rory]

I love what Glorilla said.

[Julian]

Jolene should have got shot.

[Rory]

I would have shot. I would have shot Jolene.

[Damaris]

Shout out.

[Maul]

Jolene's have been shot. How did.

[Rory]

How did you feel on some messy moment in the beginning of Jolene when she was like, I heard you talk about the girl with the. What you saying, Lemonade?

[Julian]

Becky with the good.

[Rory]

Becky with the good hair. Let me tell you about one of my hoes. And then they get into Jolene, because Jolene is Becky.

[Julian]

Jolene sound like that. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Rory]

Jolene did sound like that.

[Julian]

Jolene sound like you just lost.

[Rory]

You just lost your man.

[Julian]

Snatching up what's happening. Dolly said Jolene beat her ass. She said Jolene beat her out her wig.

[Maul]

I like that. I like when you could tell that story. A lot of people bury that like.

[Damaris]

A real person, apparently, based on a. Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Something that happened to Dolly Parton.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Rory]

But no, I think it's a good album that people should give a bunch of listens because there's a lot of in there.

[Damaris]

I like a lot.

[Rory]

It's a lot.

[Maul]

I'm listening to it.

[Damaris]

I'm not a Beyonce guy traditionally, but for this, I was curious to see how she would, like, bend this genre. And it sounded good. I liked it. I was cleaning the crib Saturday morning, played it straight through. It's long. It's a lot of music. But there. I liked it a lot.

[Maul]

So. So play it while you clean.

[Damaris]

It's just. It's just I knew if I didn't do it, then I wouldn't listen to it at another time. So I was just, like, watering my plants, sweeping up like, you know, on my. What's that guy's name on Tick tock. All karma.

[Julian]

You're a dick. Yeah, I listen to it. I had a long road trip. I put it in headphones and, like, looked out the window at.

[Damaris]

Lathered my anal butter. And then. And then. Yeah. And then hit the streets.

[Maul]

Yeah. With the booty butter still. Because you never know. You never know.

[Rory]

You might just run into Tyler Gerard's Jolene.

[Julian]

No, no, no. Jolene is the. That takes your man.

[Rory]

Tylene.

[Maul]

Tylene Tyne.

[Julian]

That's my little sister name. Hi. Shout out on her.

[Rory]

So act three predictions. I know the rumors already are that it's a R B album, like, traditional.

[Julian]

Actually, the predictions are that's a rock and roll album. But I think she covered more of that. You're saying you're cool, but I would. I would like Beyonce rock and roll more than Beyonce country. Surprise you.

[Maul]

Do y'all see what Beyonce is doing with all of these? All of these genres is originally black music. Yeah.

[Rory]

House country music. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Music is just black.

[Julian]

And she's also, you know, she really got into her ancestral. And don't Doing her research on her Own family and dedicating it to it. Dedicating her music to that. And I think that is beautiful. They have the Blackbird cover on there, which was originally a Beatles song about the little Rock nine, if I'm not mistaken. So.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was. It was well put together.

[Damaris]

If this was a. I'm looking at the rumors for Act 3. If it were a jazz album, I'd be very interested in that. Know, her vocals over jazz would be great.

[Rory]

This isn't a, like, rumor, but everyone on Twitter was like, I don't know. She's been kind of getting some rap verses off in the last five to seven years. What if B gives us just like a boom bap, straight boom bap album.

[Maul]

Boom.

[Rory]

Jay writes all the verses.

[Maul]

Listen, I'm.

[Rory]

It sounds.

[Maul]

It does. But I mean, does it. It's. It's. If anybody could execute it, it's beyond Jay.

[Damaris]

And Meek would run it.

[Maul]

Who?

[Damaris]

Meek?

[Rory]

She has enough Ries.

[Maul]

Yeah. Like, I don't think she's been in Miami.

[Julian]

I got his joke. It didn't land, but I got his joke callback. But I. I'm thinking alternative.

[Rory]

I was gonna. My guess is more neoso. I can see her doing a neoso album. She smoked traditional R and B already, so she's never given us a full R. Dance, dance, country, country.

[Damaris]

I think the theme of the first two acts. And correct me if I'm wrong, like, they're.

[Maul]

So this is act three.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but like, dance and country is so polarizing and they're so we know what those sound like. If it was like neo soul. I think that's too ambiguous. Like, I think it has to be a bigger.

[Rory]

So left with what we expect from her that I think doing something she hasn't done, but still from the roots of. Of her music before, like, I think she gives us similar to a seat at the table. Like that type of R and B.

[Maul]

I think it's jazz R and B. I would love to think about country dance. Country dance.

[Rory]

I don't know if I want to. I mean, I'll take a Beyonce rock and roll album, but if I have to pick between R and B or neoso album, I'd rather that.

[Julian]

I mean, of course. But also you would do that over the dance and you would have did that over the country.

[Rory]

No, I was really excited to hear what a country, country Beyonce album sounded like. I love Daddy's Lessons. I. I was excited for this. But now that you've gotten both those out the way, I would like another album that's more traditional in your roots to experiment. Because before she was similar to like, where we give Drake flack of like, damn, I wish I could just get an R B Beyonce album. But she has to feed so many fan bases. We have to get pop. We have to get like, we have to get all that in four in the self titled album. If you could give me 10, me, myself and eyes, I would be ecstatic. I know she's not going to do that, but yeah, she hasn't given us a. A real straight R and B. But if she goes rock, you know, we're going to get a bunch of Prince type records, which I'm cool with. I'd like Beyonce to get in a Prince bag. That's the only rock and roll I'd like to see from B.

[Julian]

You don't want Willow. Rock and roll.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at Willow's rock and roll role. I just wouldn't want that from Beyonce. I want that from Willow. But yeah, like, I don't. Don't give me a kiss cover from Beyonce.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

No, I don't think she would eat it though.

[Rory]

Of course she would.

[Maul]

Oh, she's gonna. She gonna make it her own for sure. But I don't know.

[Rory]

I don't think that it would be nice for her to steal the Led Zeppelin songs that they stole from black artists. She should just do a cover of all Led Zeppelin songs for the rock Beyonce.

[Maul]

That's interesting.

[Rory]

Interesting because, I mean, they stole all those records.

[Julian]

Do you guys believe the rumors that the three. The acts are kind of like a show? Like act three is the end. Like this is the end of Beyonce as an artist, as a recording artist?

[Rory]

I think for a long time. Yeah.

[Maul]

She just put out act three, right?

[Julian]

No, she's put out act two. Act three is coming.

[Maul]

Act three is supposed to be the last one. Yes.

[Damaris]

What was the gap between Act 1 and 2?

[Julian]

A year, maybe two years.

[Maul]

Yeah. Because it was renaissance. And then our cowboy Carter, when the renaissance shots.

[Damaris]

It's kind of what I'm asking.

[Maul]

A year. Last year. Right.

[Julian]

Two years. It feels like last year because of the tour, which.

[Maul]

Oh, yes, the world.

[Julian]

But I think it was two years or at least a year and a half.

[Maul]

Well, Julian has a laptop. He could actually look it up right now.

[Rory]

That's true. He could do that.

[Damaris]

I won't. It's cool not to do a callback.

[Rory]

To like, further prove my point though. But it is crazy that Beyonce finished a country album while she was on her dance album tour, which I think took A lot out of. Of her every single night. But still finish that. And Drake can't do a disc record.

[Julian]

Well, I mean, I get what you're saying, but to be fair, Cowboy. Cowboy Carter was recorded before Renaissance, and.

[Rory]

She said it took five years to make, but there's no way she wasn't cleaning that up.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm sure she cleaned up a little bit. She said it was done before Renaissance, but she dropped Renaissance first because of the pandemic, and people wanted to dance. And this album is more. It gets you in your feels.

[Rory]

Oh, it definitely gets you in your feels.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was a very emotional album. Country is like that anyway, though, as a genre.

[Rory]

Yeah. Listen, the whites can get emotional, too. We love our pickup trucks and our golden retrievers.

[Julian]

And shout out to Tanner, Adele, and the other black artists who are credited on this album. The other black country artists, Shaboozi, all of them who are credited on this.

[Maul]

What is the. The girl's name? What's her name? Ty. Ty. Oh, what's the girl?

[Rory]

I don't want to mess it up.

[Damaris]

From Beyonce's album.

[Maul]

Yeah, well, she's an artist herself, but I follow her on gram, and I follow her.

[Rory]

Tierra Kennedy.

[Maul]

Tierra Kennedy. Yeah, I follow her, but I was like, damn. Like, she's dope. Like, she's country. And to find out that she was actually on Beyonce's album was dope. I was like, that's a. That's an amazing look for her. So shout out to her, and I.

[Rory]

Think it's cool that she still had people like the dream.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

On here. For Real, Dixon had credits. Shout out to Dixon. No, idiot.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Swizz beats Rafael Sadiq. Like, I think that's cool, too.

[Julian]

Hit Boy da got that dope.

[Rory]

Yes. This was cool. I. I encourage people that may think that it's not really their type of thing to give it a chance, because I. I'm not a country fan, and I loved it.

[Maul]

So I'm gonna definitely check it out. This is Beyonce. This is one of the greatest artists that we've ever had, will ever have. So anytime an artist like this puts something out, I think as the culture, we all have to take it in. And if we like it, cool. If not, cool. But I think we do have to listen to it, though. This is the best of the best.

[Rory]

I'm telling everyone. I mean, I know the bootleggers don't really listen to our podcast, but every guy that sells umbrellas, the moment it starts raining, they just pop it of nowhere. You're like, how'd you have umbrellas ready in Times Square? Get your fucking cowboy hats, assless chaps. Get it ready for when this tour's announced. What? They said Friday. She's supposed to announce it.

[Julian]

Don't know.

[Rory]

The women are. I'm. I can't wait for that.

[Maul]

See Beyonce.

[Rory]

I want to see all the girls dressed up as cowgirls.

[Maul]

She would have really took it there. She had a video with Naked Cowboy from Times Square. She throw him in the video.

[Rory]

I don't want to. Is that guy alive still?

[Damaris]

Probably not.

[Maul]

I think so. I think naked Cowboys. Well, he's not.

[Rory]

He spent like 20 years.

[Julian]

I don't know if he's active still.

[Rory]

20 degree weather, ass naked.

[Damaris]

I feel.

[Rory]

Feel like that takes a toll on the body.

[Damaris]

He's a lot. He's 53.

[Maul]

Shout out to Nick.

[Rory]

Oh, wow. All right. Shout out to Naked Cowboy.

[Damaris]

You a hater, Rory.

[Rory]

I'm not a hater. I've seen him.

[Maul]

If you've been in, you've seen him. Like, you have no choice.

[Rory]

But I've been to his shows.

[Damaris]

He's from Cincinnati.

[Rory]

He probably makes a ton of money for sure. Tax free, too. Where does he keep the cash, though? He's got to have, like, a manager, like, next to him to collect the money, right?

[Maul]

Oh, he probably, you know, cash app. Zel now.

[Rory]

True. Where does he keep the phone?

[Maul]

Oh, you know where he keeps the phone.

[Damaris]

You know what he has the Booty Butter.

[Maul]

Shout out to Booty Use. Use promo code. Rory. R O, R, Y.

[Rory]

You've never spelled my name before. Don't do that.

[Julian]

You've never spelled my name.

[Maul]

Get 30% off your next bottle of Booty Butter.

[Rory]

That's hilarious.

[Maul]

I know.

[Julian]

We track a lot of trends on this podcast. Cause that's kind of like our job. Why don't we invest in the trends that we see coming? Like, I thought about that. I like, like Booty Butter. No, not.

[Maul]

What trend did you see?

[Julian]

Like how you said you told all the guys on the corners who sell the umbrellas to get your cowboy hats ready. We knew Beyonce was dropping a country album the moment even before she announced it. When we started guesstimating about that. Why didn't we put our money into shit like that?

[Damaris]

I put all my money into leather goods.

[Rory]

Yeah. You're not wrong.

[Julian]

I don't know. And just so many other trends that we see. Like, we. We are have our. Our neck on the culture. Our foot on the culture, whatever. However that saying goes.

[Rory]

Why don't we now, I think about that mall. We found out it was a country album when we were in Mexico in 2021 or some like, why don't.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but okay.

[Rory]

We could have manufactured an entire merch department bootleg fur sat outside every arena. Yeah, easy money.

[Julian]

I know we're joking and we're laughing about it, but like that happens with so many things in hip hop and pop because hip hop sets the tone for everything. And we just like, oh yeah, this is coming. This is about to be new trend. Oh, by the way, this is going to be song of the summer and we don't do about it.

[Rory]

We should do more insider trading with merch.

[Damaris]

That's what Dave Portnoy does so well.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Maul]

Damn.

[Julian]

Why you put that on Dave?

[Damaris]

No, it's not legal.

[Julian]

Oh, legally. Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, very legal.

[Maul]

Legal.

[Rory]

I don't think he has any grounds to do anything illegal the way the spotlight is on him. Speaking of sports though, tonight.

[Maul]

Woo.

[Julian]

Big game.

[Damaris]

I'm hyped.

[Rory]

Battle of the races. If. If you're listening to this now, Caitlyn Clark, round two. The game is. The game is already over.

[Damaris]

So sorry.

[Rory]

Who, who do you guys have winning predictions?

[Maul]

I have.

[Damaris]

I have LSU there. I was arguing with my friend over this over the weekend. Iowa has Caitlin Clark. That's it. The team sucks.

[Rory]

LSU is a better team.

[Maul]

Lsu, they're the number one team in the country.

[Damaris]

Is not good. Those. The other girls on team.

[Maul]

I can't say the team that's the number one team in the country sucks.

[Damaris]

Caitlin is so good.

[Maul]

All right, so shop right there. You can't say team sucks.

[Damaris]

So this is. Let me finish the point. The, the, the point is like when you match, when you start looking man to man, like matchup down the, down the rosters. LSU outmans Iowa. It's not even close outside of the Caitlin Clark mismatch. Their big is better than I was. Their guards better than I was. The bench players are better than I was.

[Rory]

Did you watch the playoffs? NBA playoffs in 2001 with the 76ers when Allen Iverson and Aaron McKe and Eric Snow beat Vince Carson, Carter, Ray Allen, who else?

[Damaris]

I know. I know it can happen.

[Rory]

If you have one superstar and a like good role players around you, you can.

[Damaris]

Iowa can win this game if those role players play their very good game.

[Rory]

I think LSU is a better team. I still think Iowa is going to win.

[Maul]

I think that Kaitlin Clark had this potential matchup circled on her calendar since last year.

[Rory]

Couldn't wait.

[Maul]

I love LSU.

[Rory]

I'm rooting for LSU.

[Maul]

Andrew Reese. I'm rooting for LSU. I'm not going to put my money on LSU, though.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

What about UConn? USC?

[Rory]

I think they. They split it. LSU got the first one. I think I would.

[Maul]

I think. I think all of these. I think all of these teams are. I don't think that any of them are going to be able to beat juju and usc. I think USC is going to win it all.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I love that she's doing commercials too, now.

[Maul]

Yeah, I think. I think juju is. This is the stage she was made for, and I think that she's enjoying everybody paying attention to Iowa and USC. Obviously. I think they handle business with UConn. Juju gets the national championship stage, and I think she shows why. I don't know the new generation.

[Damaris]

I'm a lifelong UConn fan. I know this sounds like, wild, corny, but like, my. My dad and my brother and I, we obsess over UConn women's basketball because they're the only good program. Like in the early 2000s, like the Diana Taurasi Suit Bird days.

[Rory]

What'd you think about the Rutgers team back in the day?

[Damaris]

Didn't care at all. We would just watch UConn beat.

[Rory]

What did you guys refer to them?

[Damaris]

Sluts. No, that's worse than I. Yeah, that's.

[Rory]

Worse than what I missed.

[Maul]

Yeah, Don, I missed crazy.

[Rory]

Well, no, he said hoes. And then another derogatory.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. But. But UConn, they have. I. Paige Beckers. I know everyone's liking this Caitlyn Carg frenzy. Paige Becker.

[Rory]

By the way, there's also been other good women's program. Yukon dominated for our whole life. But, yeah, this is the.

[Damaris]

But this is the first year where it's like, across the board. Like, this tournament is so exciting. These matches have been great. Great. But Paige Becker is like, had a career. Not career, season ending injury last year, missed the whole show, the dance, the playoffs, everything. And she's back this year. She's kicking ass in tournament. Like, I love Paige and knowing juju's a freshman, I want Paige to have this moment. I want UConn to win because I think Juju will take care of business the rest of her career at her time at USC. But I'm rooting for UConn in that game. Okay, Paige is incredible.

[Maul]

I got. I have USC winning it all, no matter what. But I do think Iowa beats lsu. But I. I want LSU to win. I want to see Angel Reese at the championship level again, but we'll see.

[Rory]

Did you guys watch any men's basketball yesterday? North Carolina State, Duke.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was a. That big guy on dj.

[Rory]

See, this is why. This is why I love that they are now paying the athletes. Athletes because D.J. is going to get his value and his money. I'm not saying this in a hating way. How he plays. I don't know if he's built for the NBA. Yeah, he's a. He's a big dude. Like, he's got great footwork. He's dominant and great for NCAA basketball.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he kind of plays like Glenn Davis.

[Maul]

He's.

[Rory]

Yeah, he's big, baby. He's. He's a little more agile than Glenn Davis. But I'm happy now. He's getting his moment. And after last night's game, he is going to be in commercials all this week. He's going to get his bags. I've loved watching these guys that hit big shots in the Sweet 16 doing TurboTax ads on their Twitter. Like, I like that people that may not go to the league are having their stardom get its value for what it is right now. He's going to get paid. And as he fucking instead of having some huge college career. And then maybe not the body pause.

[Damaris]

That move was crazy to go to the league.

[Rory]

Like, the moves he makes. It'll be a little different in the NBA of how he plays ball, but.

[Damaris]

And the whole country's rooting for him.

[Rory]

I think he's great.

[Maul]

Yeah, he. He reminds me.

[Rory]

It's always great to see Duke lose.

[Maul]

He reminds me of Zach Randolph a little bit. Got a little Zach. You can tell. He.

[Rory]

Because he just looks like him.

[Maul]

No, he play. He's lefty. He can shoot it. He can put it on the floor. He can post up. Like, he can play. He has a skill set.

[Rory]

Ball.

[Maul]

Yeah. He's not just a big boy. He has a skill set.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. He's agile. His footwork is crazy. I just don't know if that's going to work in the NBA the same. The same way.

[Maul]

I mean, we'll see.

[Rory]

He's gonna get his value and money from this.

[Maul]

Oh, no, that's what.

[Rory]

That's what I'm happy.

[Maul]

He's big man on campus now. This is like, he's.

[Rory]

It's nice to see that he's gonna get more than just some. From some college girls out of this run. Like, he's gonna get some money that he deserves.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So. But that game that game was great.

[Damaris]

I got you.

[Rory]

I don't even hate Duke. I think I hate Duke fans.

[Maul]

What you got? You commented on both brackets, right?

[Damaris]

Well, I don't think they'll win the women's. I'd like them to. I think they're. They're by far the best team in the men's. I don't think it's close.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I'm going for it.

[Damaris]

Don't put that on me. Like, I'm a fan of Connect. I don't give a. About Connecticut. I just. This team is by far the best.

[Maul]

You said you was all in on the Huskies. I thought that's what he just.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not a fan of these guys. They're just a good team.

[Rory]

I also love that Julian, his brother and his dad have been obsessed with the UConn Women's Husky.

[Damaris]

I'll call my dad. You guys.

[Maul]

Not the men's team. You know, the men's is pretty good, too, Too. Like, they won some national championship.

[Damaris]

The women's team has always been the more impressive team.

[Rory]

What was the coach's name?

[Damaris]

She was a goat. Gino. Ariama. Ariama. Yeah.

[Rory]

He. She'd go to league. Who the UConn's women coach?

[Maul]

He. He. Gino's a he.

[Rory]

Who was the girl woman coach?

[Damaris]

Oh, Pat Summit.

[Rory]

Thank you.

[Damaris]

You're talking to Tennessee.

[Maul]

Passed away about 15.

[Damaris]

She passed away? Yeah.

[Rory]

I was asking, like, back in the day.

[Damaris]

2016. She always had the.

[Rory]

Currently.

[Damaris]

Her suit. She always had the cleanest suits. I love.

[Maul]

This was.

[Rory]

She was an era.

[Maul]

Oh, yeah. That was.

[Damaris]

I love this era of women's basketball. It was great. She coached Candace Parker.

[Maul]

That was Cheryl Swoop's time.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Showing your age.

[Maul]

Cheryl Soups. Yeah. Candace Parker.

[Damaris]

Look at her.

[Rory]

She cleaned up before we get to voicemails. Final men's predictions.

[Maul]

Win it all. I got. I got UConn winning it all.

[Damaris]

Mr. Husky.

[Rory]

Yeah. I can't even see they're the best team. I'm going Frenzy State. I know it's a shot in the dark, but they're just a fun team to watch.

[Maul]

I think they're gonna be Purdue, but I don't think they beat, I don't know, Yukon.

[Damaris]

Oh, that big. That big dude on Purdue, he had 40 last game, man.

[Maul]

DJ going, listen, come out here to this perimeter.

[Damaris]

That's a good matchup.

[Maul]

Let me jab. Step your big seven foot ass to death and watch you blow it. Blow a tire trying to get back on defense.

[Rory]

I love DJs pops too. And of course they said like halfway through the game because they kept showing his dad celebrating. It's like his dad is a correctional officers. I was like, of course he is.

[Maul]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Rory]

That's just like a correctional officer.

[Maul]

Voicemails.

[Damaris]

Before we get to voicemail, Dimaris just pulled something up real quick.

[Julian]

Oh, like that is the number one song on Billboard, baby.

[Rory]

But we knew that was gonna happen.

[Maul]

No, it was number one last week.

[Rory]

That is crazy. Two weeks in a row.

[Julian]

But yeah. No, you could debut at number one and then fall. Like, that happens a lot with songs that are hyped for a second.

[Maul]

What I'm saying. It was number one last week.

[Damaris]

Staying power. Gotta respond.

[Maul]

Thanks. Drake can actually voicemail.

[Rory]

Can I actually do some hater real quick before voicemails. I don't like to see Chloe and Gunner together. She didn't hold him down when he was locked up. Now she wants to spin the block that he's out and he's in shape. Tape. He's taking that diabetes medication. He's making great music on him.

[Damaris]

He's working out.

[Maul]

Are they back together?

[Julian]

They were never together.

[Rory]

They went to a basketball game together. That means they're together.

[Damaris]

They go together.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was. They were advertising their song.

[Rory]

She didn't wear one free gun. A T shirt. Not one. She ain't say even Eminem wore a free yay shirt.

[Maul]

She ain't never tweet three to God.

[Rory]

Not once.

[Maul]

Three.

[Damaris]

Three him till it's backwards.

[Maul]

Three until it's backwards. She ain't never tweeted that. Never.

[Rory]

I think she unfollowed when Lil Baby did because she. She thought she was 10 toes. She thought he snitched.

[Julian]

Just so annoying.

[Rory]

Yo, I just don't like it. She didn't support him.

[Julian]

By the way, that Cardi B song hits different in the club. I was in the club, heard it.

[Rory]

Every song. I like the song.

[Maul]

So we gotta stop doing that. Every song hits different.

[Julian]

Every song don't hit different when you.

[Damaris]

Had off a half a clip.

[Rory]

That's the point of those songs. They should hit when you're. They're for drunk.

[Damaris]

People like that song.

[Rory]

Big party records are like, that's going to hit crazy when you're drunk at the club.

[Damaris]

No, but it hits without the club.

[Rory]

So what I'm saying, you're going to start saying ah, like in the club or you want to do that? What does he say? Bum.

[Julian]

How'd you make it Irish?

[Maul]

Like how you make it Irish. How'd you take a beautiful hip Hop song and make it your own.

[Rory]

I just think it's funny.

[Maul]

He.

[Rory]

He said that in a disrespectful record.

[Damaris]

Bum.

[Rory]

No, no. Well, bum. And that ad lib.

[Julian]

His all ad lib that said, dis Melly Mel. If I have to.

[Rory]

Aw. I'm actually shocked. Out of all the people to reply, Drake, Melly Mel replies to anything. You could sneeze wrong. And Melly Mel is going to do a full YouTube video about you. Where does Melly Mel not replied yet?

[Maul]

Melly Mel hate all of these new rappers.

[Rory]

He hates everyone. That's not him.

[Maul]

Yeah, 100%.

[Rory]

What was the record? He just. He just dissed the rapper, like, last year. And I remember wanting to go laugh at his diss record. But it wasn't too bad. I think it was Eminem.

[Maul]

Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, it was Eminem.

[Rory]

Emma will tear apart Melly Mel. I'm sorry.

[Maul]

Come on, fam. We have to have that conversation.

[Rory]

Melly Mel has it every year.

[Maul]

Yeah, I'm cool. I'm not.

[Rory]

Vlad and Mel talk about it every year. They talk about it.

[Maul]

All right. Y'all got y'all the best, man.

[Rory]

Did you guys fall for Eminem's April Fool's preference prank?

[Maul]

I didn't even see it. How about that?

[Julian]

Same.

[Maul]

Do you want better? I didn't.

[Damaris]

What he do?

[Julian]

What he said White ass algorithm.

[Rory]

Some. I'm sure Eminem. I'm sure Eminem doesn't even know. Logically, whoever runs his Twitter put together like this, this parody video that he was announcing, Infinite, which was his first album, Infinite 2, out everywhere now. And they, like, did this big, epic trailer, and then they were like, April Fools. And we were like, damn.

[Damaris]

To go from a prank to a. Thank God he's not dropping more music.

[Rory]

I don't know. Infinite2 I might want to hear from. Remember them?

[Damaris]

No, you don't.

[Rory]

If he's rapping like that.

[Damaris]

Oh, this is so stupid.

[Rory]

And he's. And it has the song Infinite playing in the background, which is a great record.

[Maul]

I didn't even know this happened.

[Damaris]

But.

[Maul]

Now it's even more.

[Damaris]

Okay, this is funny.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's hilarious. Infinite level times two.

[Maul]

Who thought this was real?

[Rory]

Nobody.

[Maul]

Oh.

[Rory]

This was their April Fool's prank, though.

[Damaris]

This is the best April Fool's prank ever. That's why he's a goat.

[Maul]

There you go.

[Rory]

That's true. You know Eminem's silly.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Is he not silly?

[Maul]

I don't know.

[Rory]

Come on. He put his, like, butt cheeks on Tom Green's Face in a video. He's silly.

[Maul]

Oh, that was. That was silly.

[Rory]

Yeah. My bum is on your lips. My bum is on your lips.

[Maul]

White humor.

[Rory]

That was very much white humor.

[Maul]

Do we have voicemails?

[Damaris]

We do.

[Maul]

You've got mail. Is it a right. What kind of voicemail?

[Damaris]

My. My note here for this one says how to navigate friends when someone in the crew doesn't with you. Okay, that's good. It's not a relationship.

[Rory]

One kind of is.

[Maul]

It definitely is.

[Rory]

Where the. Are you?

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's funny, cuz.

[Rory]

Are you the friend that's trying to escape? I have a former friend that I cut off for a couple reasons. I don't really to get into specifics of why might kind of give away who it is, because randomly I actually met Rory one time at this person's birthday dinner years ago. But anyway, I'm no longer friends with this person. We originally met through a group of people. And some of those people from our mutual circle are still friends with the person. And sometimes they invite me to events, whether it be like random party, birthday event, whatever. And I kind of just been curving them because, to be honest, I just have no desire to be around him. You know what I'm saying? So my question is, how do y'all like navigate maintaining mutual friendships with a group of people if they're still friends with somebody that you no longer with? And. And I guess I can go for former friends or even a former partner or spouse where you guys have mutual friends. How do you navigate that after the breakup or separation?

[Damaris]

I like that.

[Rory]

Ask, ask who all going to be.

[Julian]

There, who all gonna be there for show.

[Rory]

And if that person's there, then you do something separate with them. If it's their birthday or something, like do your own birthday dinner, dinner, I'll take you out the next day. That would be the only way I could think. Now I'm just has my brain running of who this is.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I forgot.

[Rory]

I can't really give advice because now I'm trying to just run through the Rolodex of birthday dinners. I've met a lot of people at birthday dinners though, so I don't know.

[Maul]

His voice sounds familiar too.

[Rory]

He said it was a guy when he initially said that. I thought it was a girl. But now we all have a.

[Damaris]

Who all gonna be their friend, though.

[Maul]

Yeah, I got a friend that we don't see each other as much as we used to because he's cool with somebody that I don't fuck with. But we understand that though. Like it's not. It's not. It's not. No. It didn't put a strain on our relationship. He just know like why I don't come around.

[Julian]

I feel like what's important is the reason why I fell out with this friend. Friend.

[Damaris]

True.

[Julian]

Because if this like I have a friend or a former friend who we had a falling out and it eventually got physical. This person disrespected me and put their hands on me. So now anybody who with them still with them. I can't with you because there's no way you love me and you're running around the town with somebody who disrespected me. You, you can't possibly love me because the people that I love, I can't even look at that disrespect them the same. And on top of that, once you show your character of how you act with one person, best believe they will eventually act that way with you. Like their character is their character. So once I see somebody's character is up, whether they did some up to me, I personally can't be around it. So I don't, I probably wouldn't even be able to be in the friend group like that. But if it was over something petty, I mean, we could be in the same room together. It is what it is. Just don't, you know?

[Maul]

No, I hit the, I hit the kill switch on everybody if it's like that level of disrespect. Yeah, I don't, with you, I don't with nobody. You cool with like, oh, you're very good at that. Me?

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm just observationally.

[Maul]

Oh my God. I, I, I, I can go from being your best friend and if, if something crazy happens, it'll be like I never even met you in my life. I have that in me. Like that's, that's, that's without a doubt.

[Damaris]

I've adopted some of that. But I feel like you are very.

[Maul]

Like rigid and just because of certain lines. Again, as a, as, as men, once you cross certain lines, you know that it has the potential to go somewhere where it's like, this is not going to be good. So I'd rather just completely cut all ties. We don't even go to the same places. In fact, my barber lets me know what time you coming if we going to say date. I don't even go to like, it's like that. Because as men sometimes it can go.

[Rory]

To that level with violence. Yeah. Should move that way. But I don't know groups of friends that are still friends with someone I don't fuck with. With. I don't go out of my way to hang out with them. But, like, if I ran into somebody, I wouldn't particularly care. Like, I wouldn't go avoid somebody.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just.

[Maul]

I don't.

[Rory]

My caring level has just kind of, like, dissolved over the past few years. Like, everyone's going to do whatever the they want to do. That's what I've just.

[Maul]

You got to avoid.

[Rory]

That's what I've grown to learn, that no matter what, everybody's going to do whatever the they want to do. My expectations of people are extremely low now. And I don't mean that in, like, a depressing way. I actually mean that in a good way. I just don't have high expectations. Expectations for everybody.

[Maul]

But you have to develop that.

[Rory]

I don't put that on people anymore because it's like, for what.

[Maul]

But you have to have that ability to avoid, though.

[Rory]

Oh, no.

[Maul]

You have to have that.

[Rory]

I'm saying, like, in situations, if we're in a spot and it's small, like, I'm not now gonna change my whole night to figure out how not to, like, run into you.

[Julian]

Yeah, I know.

[Rory]

Like, I. To me, that's like, not cared too much about.

[Maul]

It depends.

[Julian]

Unless it's. If it's violence, then it's way different on site.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's weight I'm talking about.

[Julian]

I'm saying. But if I just don't like you, it ain't.

[Rory]

If somebody don't. With friend is there, and I know that friend, and, like, we never had an issue. I'll say. I'll say, what's up? Like, I'm not going out my way to text you to go hang out, but if I run into you, it's love. I don't care. We're not going to talk about that person. What's up? How you been?

[Maul]

Cool. All right.

[Rory]

Peace.

[Maul]

Yeah. It gets tricky, though. It does get tricky, especially the older you get. It's tougher, but very necessary to avoid. When you can avoid any type of situation, if you know somebody's gonna be there that you don't fuck with and you have the option to not be there, you have to learn how to not be there.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I. Yeah, I mean, I get that. But also some stuff that I'm going to. No one else is gonna dictate me going to a place I was already gonna go to.

[Maul]

Now if I'm somewhere and you walk in and I don't fuck with you, I mean, I'm not Leaving. That ain't. Because that just looks. Oh, yeah, that nigga left. Nah, that ain't what happened in your movie and your movie that you're living. That's what what happened.

[Rory]

Yeah. Oh, no, my movie.

[Maul]

In my movie, I avoided prison time.

[Julian]

But see, that's in.

[Maul]

Which is always. Which is always. Always. Yeah, that's always a priority.

[Julian]

But I feel like learning what I've getting older. My most important lesson is that everybody is literally living their own movie and, like, trying to dictate a reality out of everybody else's movie will have you all up. Like, just live your movie and in your head and let your perspective be your perspective and move how you want to move.

[Maul]

Sometimes you got to slap the direction director, though. Sometimes you gotta slap the out the director.

[Julian]

Do you?

[Damaris]

No. Like, I thought so.

[Rory]

Jesus. Well, depends on the government.

[Damaris]

Gotta go to church.

[Maul]

Depends on who you talk to.

[Damaris]

Put hands on the priest. Yeah, before he puts hands on you.

[Maul]

Thy rod and thy staff.

[Rory]

You didn't have to point at me. I got the joke, sir.

[Damaris]

Thy booty butter.

[Julian]

If you are triggered by this person.

[Rory]

Making that joke and then pointing at me was the sickest thing I've ever like. No, we. I got it. You didn't have to go like, yo, you know, I was like, talking about you getting molested.

[Damaris]

That was really unnecessary.

[Maul]

The joke.

[Rory]

No, the joke was unnecessary. The point. Took it to a whole another level.

[Damaris]

Good. We can all agree in the room, the joke was fantastic. I just. I gestured at Rory.

[Rory]

That was. By the way, that was such a Trump movie. We can all agree that the joke was fantastic. All of us. Everyone knows that the joke.

[Maul]

A comment. If you think the joke of all time.

[Rory]

Everyone is saying that that was the greatest joke.

[Damaris]

It didn't even come out yet. But we know that was a hit.

[Rory]

But people are telling me more people have laughed at that joke than they've ever laughed at any other joke clip. This is in the entire world.

[Damaris]

Tell me how hard you laugh.

[Rory]

No one is making fun of Rory's molestation for a minute funnier than I have.

[Maul]

Holy.

[Damaris]

Oh, I'm sorry. That's.

[Julian]

Yeah, but yeah, homie, just do your big one. And if you don't want to be somewhere. If you don't want to be somewhere, the marriage don't be there.

[Maul]

Shut the up.

[Julian]

No, I'm giving him good.

[Maul]

Do your big one.

[Julian]

Do your big one. Do the you want to do. Be wherever you want to be. If they there, spit on them.

[Rory]

Can I? Can I?

[Damaris]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Rory]

Can I Ask him to reply back with who the person is. We will not put that part out at all. But we could revisit his question because I could have better advice. If I know who it is and what that scenario is, we could actually have a full conversation about his real question. So call back with who it is. What birthday dinner it was.

[Maul]

Rory just ner.

[Damaris]

Just wants to know which friend it is.

[Maul]

Just nosy.

[Rory]

Yeah, Well, I mean, we could actually have a combo.

[Maul]

We had a combo about it. Yeah.

[Rory]

But a follow up.

[Maul]

Okay.

[Rory]

I love our follow up combos. I want people to always call back.

[Maul]

We got another one.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we could do another one. This one's fun. This is more relationship.

[Rory]

I'm also nosy. Hey, what's going on?

[Damaris]

Podcast? Hope everybody's doing well today.

[Maul]

I have a quick story followed up.

[Rory]

By a question, so.

[Maul]

So to start it out, I was.

[Rory]

A side for the first time not too long ago. Congrats. And, you know, I kind of just. I'm not typically that kind of person. I just. Honestly, I was going through some shit.

[Damaris]

And, you know, whatever.

[Rory]

I ended up hooking up with this chick.

[Damaris]

And.

[Rory]

So the very next day, she, you know, she calls me up. It was our first time hooking up. She calls me, up, up. We're talking, and then she's like, you know, hey, you know, I feel so bad.

[Damaris]

And I'm like, why?

[Rory]

And she's like, you know, after you left, my boyfriend came over and ate me out, like, all night.

[Damaris]

And.

[Rory]

And so, like, my mouth, like, yeah.

[Damaris]

I. I think we should be done here.

[Rory]

And, you know, I was already, like, pretty hesitant about being in the situation in the first place, but that was just kind of the icing on the cake, so, you know, I cut it off.

[Damaris]

But.

[Rory]

But I guess my. What my question is is has anybody ever done something to somebody else that made you question your relationship with them.

[Damaris]

Or cut them off because it was just so foul?

[Rory]

So, yeah, that's. That's my question. Thanks for listening.

[Maul]

See, that's how niggas end up on the 10 o'clock news.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Maul]

See what I'm saying?

[Rory]

That's demon. Demon shit.

[Maul]

Like when y'all see them carrying him out the building in handcuffs and she's in four different suitcases. Okay, we gotta. What happened? What did she do? Do you think she showered him and then he came home and ate out right after she. Mother.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna. I. Doesn't sound like she showered. If you're doing that kind of move, I'm gonna.

[Rory]

I'm gonna go Ahead and think he wore a condom. So I think that. How did you not like, maybe taste the latex?

[Damaris]

Taste latex? Yeah.

[Maul]

Yo, tasting this sounds like.

[Rory]

He sounds like a condom wearer to me.

[Maul]

Crazy.

[Damaris]

Damn. Imagine eating out your girl. Dude started tasting some latex. That's. Get the suitcases.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Out of all the excuses a girl could say, though, to like, tell her man, I'm not condoning her cheating, but you're taking it to another level when you just don't stop your man from eating you out after another man was just pile driving you in that same place.

[Maul]

Yeah, man, it's tough, you know, just.

[Damaris]

Striking oil and striking oil you.

[Rory]

He strikes me as a condom user because he doesn't want to be a side dude. You know, guys that are fine with being side dudes, like myself back in the day, you know, we're no. No condom people. She sounds like the. That's definitely sucked him off too.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, obviously.

[Rory]

So she definitely made out with her boyfriend.

[Maul]

If she's. If her boyfriend is eating out after she has sex with another dude, you think her moral compass is. But I didn't suck though.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And he might have said like some sick. After he was. Ate her out. Like, y. I want you to taste yourself and kissed her. Meanwhile. It's a. It's a.

[Damaris]

That's a three.

[Rory]

It's a thruffle.

[Damaris]

That's a ghost.

[Maul]

That sounds like a double entendre.

[Rory]

Double dick on.

[Maul]

Yeah. How does she.

[Damaris]

We should ask her Mad dick in that room. He didn't even know.

[Maul]

I want to ask her. Why not? How.

[Julian]

Why would she do that?

[Rory]

Sorry.

[Damaris]

You didn't even know it.

[Maul]

That's fucked up. Y'all laughing.

[Rory]

Cheating is not moral. But I do feel like there is, like, honor amongst Steve.

[Maul]

Yeah, but I ain't no thief.

[Rory]

I'm saying her. Like, she should have had some.

[Julian]

There's honor among.

[Maul]

And she's not honor amongst.

[Damaris]

There's probably a code. There's probably like a nice core code.

[Rory]

I think people can cheat. Not cheating correctly sounds up because it sounds like cheating is okay, but you can at least cheat.

[Damaris]

Not cheating ethically means just using a condom. Among other things. Most importantly, using a condom.

[Julian]

Not embarrassing.

[Rory]

And like, go shower, like, clean yourself.

[Maul]

You can't sell drugs with ethics. Ethics. And y'all gonna tell me that you.

[Damaris]

Oh, here we go. Two very different.

[Rory]

I just said that you shouldn't put the word ethics with you.

[Maul]

No, I'm talking about him. His little soliloquy. He just gets.

[Damaris]

First of all. No, I'M I'm just. I'm here for sex. I'm here to. And then leave. That's it. I'm not. I don't care.

[Maul]

Somebody. Somebody's here to sell drugs and go home.

[Damaris]

Drugs are so much more demonstrated like they do so much worse for the community.

[Rory]

He might kill this girl.

[Damaris]

Drugs will kill killer.

[Maul]

Yeah. If you don't have and you putting into drugs. Yeah. See, sell drugs.

[Damaris]

I feel so bad for that boyfriend.

[Maul]

Why? You don't know him.

[Julian]

You don't know that. He could be worse.

[Rory]

He could have been out.

[Julian]

That deserves that.

[Rory]

He could be out cheating. So now we have another set of DNA in this.

[Maul]

Yeah. If I hope he was out at this point.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I hope he was out cheating.

[Maul]

Yeah, I hope so.

[Rory]

Honestly, at that point. Then did he say his name? I don't want to say his name.

[Damaris]

If not, I don't think he said it.

[Rory]

Then this gentleman is the victim out of the entire thing. Imagine. Imagine if that dude was cheating his girl raw and then he's that dude's girl with whoever the. He's too. It's a whole pyramid scheme of std. Oh, here is the only single person just trying to get a nut off. I said his name.

[Damaris]

Believe his name.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Julian]

That's why I can't get with casual sex. You don't know who you.

[Maul]

You don't know who you're. But that's kind of like the rush. Yeah, that's what gets.

[Rory]

That's not the rush.

[Maul]

Like, I don't know who are you.

[Damaris]

You wake up and find out if it burns or not.

[Maul]

Yeah, I want to go that far. But okay.

[Rory]

I hate to sound like the corny like as I got older person because I was definitely running around nasty for a while. Yeah. It's kind of gross. Casual sex. You really. You have no idea who you're dealing with.

[Maul]

It depends. It depends because if you're. If you go. If you're somewhere you're not even say you're not even out on that. With that energy of trying to meet somebody. But then you just happen to meet somebody.

[Damaris]

True.

[Maul]

And y'all hit it off and person is great, you know, good person level headache, you know, got a lot going for themselves. That's just a person. That's a you. You deem to be like this person. Seems like somebody has their shit together. If y'all hit it off and you know, at the end of that night of hanging out end up. Yo, you want to come upstairs. Whatever, whatever. And have sex? I don't know. If that's that crazy. If that. Because people have done that with people that they've met casually and that.

[Julian]

What we mean by casual sex. What we mean by casual sexual is you are routinely having sex with someone who has not committed sexually to you. So y'all are routinely having sex with each other and other people.

[Rory]

Y'all just running through a bunch of people.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Maul]

But I mean, as long as the person is not if the person's responsible.

[Rory]

No, no, I'm not on cat. You know, I'm saying in retrospect, it sounds kind of.

[Julian]

You know who gets burned the most? Girls. You. You sit up here and you think, oh, this girl has her together. She has all this, this, this and and that, and she the wrong. Who is everybody else. And she's an idiot. Happens all the time. It has. You can be the greatest person in the world.

[Maul]

Well, yeah. Don't Idiots.

[Julian]

It don't work like. It doesn't work like that, Mom. It don't work.

[Rory]

Sometimes you hit it off with idiots the first night and you have sex and then you realize they're an idiot a few days later.

[Julian]

You could be smart and still be.

[Damaris]

I don't think intelligent.

[Julian]

It just happened. Yeah, like it just happens.

[Maul]

Rub on it happens it bypass all that.

[Rory]

Oh yeah.

[Julian]

But you letting the people know you can still get herpes through not picking.

[Damaris]

Up this bar tab to throw a trash.

[Rory]

They put herpes on Doja Cat today. I feel. I feel bad for celebrity. Oh, like, I wouldn't say a reputable Twitter source, but like a daily loud. I'm not saying that they are by any means reputable at all. They've actually been doing a lot of bullshit lately. But they just put herpes on Doja Cat. Cat based off a fake meme that was being used for like April Fool's Day. And then just like you can't April Fools a celebrity with herpes because it's April 1st.

[Julian]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

Like that what? That's April Fools doesn't blur those lines. If you yourself want to put this out and say you have herpes and then go April Fools, that's your prerogative. Go ahead. But don't put that on someone else.

[Maul]

So DOA tweeted those results.

[Rory]

I forgot it was April 1st.

[Maul]

Oh yeah. Cuz DOA no, you know, she's a queen troll.

[Rory]

Someone else blog platform that has a lot of followers put it was the.

[Damaris]

This was the original tweet and this was. This was a lie.

[Rory]

And daily lives they're full of.

[Julian]

But still like, yeah, honor amongst thieves.

[Rory]

Is that the herpes emoji?

[Damaris]

That's kind of cool. You put German.

[Julian]

Which we know, STD.

[Damaris]

Shame here, but we don't.

[Rory]

No, actually, no.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying all of them were positive because that's how progressive I am.

[Maul]

You are progressive.

[Rory]

What is the last one? My eyes are bad.

[Damaris]

Syphilis.

[Rory]

Syphilis. Okay. What is syphilis exactly?

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Julian]

Do you want to know, like, the.

[Rory]

Symptoms, what it is?

[Julian]

Like, I think you get, like.

[Rory]

I didn't even know that was an std.

[Julian]

I thought that was, like, a bump or something, and then that goes away, and then, like, your feet fall. Fall off.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

I thought that's, like. What is that?

[Damaris]

Isn't that like kidney failure or, like, diabetes?

[Maul]

Yeah, that's called gout.

[Rory]

I thought syphilis was like, rickets. I didn't know it was an std.

[Maul]

Fall off. Yo, you know how crate, I would never nothing else if you told me. Yo, it's some going around. If you catch it, your feet gonna fall off.

[Julian]

See, that's how I feel about monkey pox. Monkey. I didn't want. No.

[Damaris]

Oh, syphilis is gross. Gross.

[Rory]

Oh, wow.

[Damaris]

Oh, it's very physical.

[Rory]

Again, we're not STD shaming. I just really didn't know I'm shaming.

[Damaris]

That's gross.

[Rory]

You can't shame someone if.

[Damaris]

Well, it just looks gross. I'm not shaming the person. That sword looks gross.

[Rory]

How people get. I'm sure people, when they get these crazy STDs, don't look at the person. They're. And can clearly see they have that std.

[Maul]

Yeah, I mean, some of these is nasty.

[Rory]

There's definitely some girls that be like, she probably has something, and I'm not gonna do that.

[Damaris]

But, yeah, I don't like. All right, fine. I take it back.

[Rory]

Plenty of clean people look good these type of STDs.

[Maul]

Hmm.

[Rory]

So you just get it from. Why did I think syphilis was, like, something from the Great Depression?

[Julian]

No. And one of those. Syphilis is one of those that can kill you. And most people don't know that they have it for, like. They don't. When you go to, like, the average clinic or doctor or whatever, they don't automatically test you for syphilis.

[Damaris]

Well, it's rare. That's good.

[Rory]

You guys are lucky.

[Julian]

You have to ask to be tested for hiv, syphilis, herpes. They don't automatically test for those. Those things.

[Rory]

You guys are going there.

[Maul]

You said, give me the works?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Never done that.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, what I going to make sure. I. I've gone in plenty of times and asked. Asked for all the blood work without health insurance.

[Maul]

Yeah, I paid.

[Rory]

I paid that 250.

[Julian]

You somebody questionable and you go into there and ask and ask your doctor for the works. Heartbeat like this.

[Damaris]

I just had to pay.

[Rory]

Yo, I had somebody when people were playing on my phone, and, like, so my number was out there. Whatever. Some, like, two girls from, like, a block number kept calling me, and I answered finally, and they were like, you have chlamydia. And I was like, mom, stop playing with my phone. That's funny. Not you, though.

[Maul]

Mom. That you. No, I definitely.

[Rory]

Even though I wasn't like a bunch of people at the time, I definitely went to the clinic that day. So if you're listening, whoever was playing on my phone, you scared me enough. And I went and got the works. Everything came back negative.

[Maul]

He was scared as a. You were scared.

[Rory]

But. All right. There's been times where I was a lot of people. I'm not saying that hasn't been a time. At that time when I got that call, I wasn't. So I was like.

[Maul]

He was really confused.

[Rory]

I was like, man, girls playing my. My number on Lipstick Alley or something. This.

[Maul]

Yeah.

[Rory]

All right, man. Let me just go double check.

[Maul]

Let me go, let me go. Make sure. That is a scary time, though. You. You something questionable. You like. Oh, man, I'm never doing this again.

[Julian]

Heart beating out your chest, you tell.

[Maul]

Yourself, I'm getting married, I'm settling down.

[Rory]

This or anytime. Like, one of your friends, like, oh, her.

[Maul]

Yeah, go get checked.

[Julian]

Especially a nasty friend.

[Rory]

O, you too. Wait, you all right?

[Julian]

Nah, terrified, bro. Terrified.

[Rory]

If she. You. I'm definitely getting tested, so. Yeah, well, wear condoms. Don't wear condoms. Syphilis is out there.

[Maul]

Whoa.

[Rory]

And I'm gonna put my tinfoil hat on this weekend and do a deep dive into conspiracies on how STD started.

[Maul]

Keep that to yourself. We don't want to hear that.

[Rory]

How did, like, out of nowhere watch Love is Blind? Like herpes just came out of nowhere, cuz. STDs didn't start till, what, the 80s?

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

That's like, the newest disease ever talking about, bro.

[Damaris]

The newest disease.

[Julian]

People bought them shits from across.

[Rory]

That was COVID 19. There was 18 before that, it was.

[Damaris]

18. Who said that? Who was that? It was a Fox journalist that said.

[Rory]

Did they really say that?

[Damaris]

I was like, Fox, like, news reporter.

[Rory]

Not knowing. It started in 2019. That's why? It was COVID 19.

[Damaris]

Let's see. Rory, wow, you are grossly wrong. The first. The first mentions of STDs were around 400 BC in.

[Maul]

Yeah, that's. That's the 80s.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's close to the 80s.

[Rory]

What? There's no way exchanging body fluids like that would ever cause a bacteria to form. Yeah, definitely happened in the 80s. Yeah, because that was new, though. I was really joking around, I promise. But AIDS is new.

[Damaris]

Relatively new. Yeah.

[Rory]

1980 in the world's history is extremely new. How did that start?

[Julian]

The government.

[Maul]

No, we know how that starts started.

[Rory]

Yeah. Same way crack did.

[Maul]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Baking soda.

[Maul]

Exactly. All right, well, it's been another episode, another audio journey, another visual presentation for our. Our viewing audience out there. Newroarimal.com merch is available. We will be announcing more shows in the coming weeks.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Maul]

Hopefully coming to a city near some of y'all soon. And we'll talk to you on a couple days. Enjoy the rest of the week.

[Rory]

HPV negative. You can't trust a girl that doesn't have hpv.

[Julian]

They don't even test for.

[Rory]

It's. That's like a virgin. I. I would never. A virgin, so I'd never. A girl that doesn't have hpv.

[Maul]

And that is the closing words from the Red Rocket, because I know it.

[Rory]

Can cause cancer amongst women and it doesn't harm men. So it is. It is an epidemic. I just feel like we all have.

[Maul]

I'm. That he's just J. And he's burning. Peace.

[Rory]

You have hpv.

[Damaris]

The gingers are burning.

[Rory]

Keep this part. Mall has hpv.

[Maul]

No worry about.