Episode 257 | The Steel Rod Pod

Summary

Episode Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 257 | The Steel Rod Pod

Release Date: April 5, 2024
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Joe Budden, Damaris

1. Chance the Rapper: Album and Divorce Discussion

The episode kicks off with an in-depth conversation about Chance the Rapper’s latest album and his recent divorce announcement.

• Album Reception: Joe Budden expresses skepticism about the album's reception, stating, “[...] that album is not as bad as people make it out to be” ([00:54] Joe Budden). Rory counters by highlighting the album’s focus on personal themes: “The one about his wife named two songs” ([01:02] Rory).

• Divorce Announcement: The hosts dissect the timing and public nature of Chance’s divorce. Joe critiques the lack of privacy despite a public statement: “Don't ask for privacy after you put out a public statement” ([03:45] Joe Budden). Damaris emphasizes the inevitability of information becoming public: “Everyone would eventually know about it” ([04:04] Damaris).

• Future Prospects: The discussion shifts to Chance’s future endeavors post-divorce. Mal speculates, “I think he gets full gospel” ([13:26] Mal), while Joe believes Chance might lean into creative pursuits beyond music: “I think Chance is a creative, though” ([14:01] Joe Budden).

2. Relationship Dynamics and Sexual Orientation

The conversation transitions to personal stories and broader discussions about relationships and sexual orientation.

• Bisexuality and Relationships: Damaris shares a personal anecdote about a high school crush coming out as bisexual, leading to confusion: “I didn’t see that coming” ([42:05] Damaris). Mal discusses the emotional impact of discovering a partner's bisexuality: “If it was a horrible marriage... Yeah, should celebrate divorce” ([23:35] Mal).

• Perception and Insecurity: The hosts explore how discovering a partner's sexual orientation can affect self-perception and insecurity. Mal notes, “If it’s another man, your insecurities go a whole different way now” ([44:15] Mal), highlighting the deeper emotional challenges involved.

3. Women’s College Basketball: Performances and Future Prospects

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing women’s college basketball, focusing on standout players and game strategies.

• Star Players: The hosts commend players like Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Joe Budden predicts their successful transitions to the WNBA: “Caitlin Clark's game is going to translate to the next level” ([82:18] Joe Budden).

• Game Strategies: Rory suggests defensive tactics against top performers, stating, “You have to go at her on the other end” ([78:58] Rory). Mal adds, “You have to make her work defensively” ([79:33] Mal), emphasizing the need for strategic gameplay to counter dominant players.

4. Technology and Cyber Security Discussion

The hosts delve into technology-related topics, particularly focusing on phone security and cyber heists.

• Phone Hacking: Joe Budden discusses Metro Boomin’s claims of being hacked, questioning its plausibility: “It might be the first my phone was hacked that I actually kind of believe” ([61:59] Joe Budden). Mal expresses frustration with modern smartphone security: “I'm going to get a flip phone” ([68:01] Mal).

• Cyber Heists: The conversation touches on contemporary heists, referencing a $30 million theft in LA: “$30 million on Easter Sunday from a money storage facility” ([98:57] Joe Budden). The hosts speculate on the potential for related media content, like Netflix series or movies.

5. Personal Anecdotes and Listener Voicemails

The latter part of the episode features personal stories and listener voicemails, providing a more intimate glimpse into the hosts' lives.

• Family Secrets: A caller shares a troubling story about discovering his father was involved in transient relationships, leading to strained family dynamics: “My dad used to be a carney... he might not even remember hooking up with my mom” ([90:26] Rory). The hosts empathize and discuss the emotional toll of such revelations.

• Carnival Life: The discussion includes anecdotes about the unpredictable and often troubled lives of carnival workers, highlighting issues like substance abuse and instability: “These niggas break this down every night and like put it back together” ([93:56] Rory).

6. Current Events and Pop Culture

In the final segments, the hosts touch on various current events and pop culture topics.

• Bryson Tiller’s New Album: The group expresses excitement about Bryson Tiller’s latest release, with Joe Budden predicting it to be a strong contender for R&B Album of the Year: “I think this one's finally gonna get the attention it deserves” ([101:12] Joe Budden).

• Media and Entertainment: References to popular shows like "Scandal" and "Love is Blind" are discussed, with the hosts sharing their views on character portrayals and storylines.

7. Closing Remarks and Future Topics

As the episode wraps up, the hosts discuss plans for future events and upcoming topics.

• Upcoming Projects: Joe Budden mentions attending events in Montreal, and the hosts speculate about potential episodes, including interviews with artists like J. Cole and Drake: “I think it's a lot of the stuff that's happening in hip hop” ([84:53] Joe Budden).

• Final Thoughts: The group shares their enthusiasm for continuing the podcast and engaging with listeners, encouraging them to stay tuned for more episodes.

Notable Quotes

• Mal on Community and Uplifting Each Other:
  “We black people got to stick together in a room full of white hatred... it's important that we give each other compliments and uplift each other” ([01:35] Mal)

• Joe Budden on Celebrating Divorce:
  “I think you should celebrate divorce, to be quite honest... should celebrate divorce” ([23:35] Joe Budden)

• Rory on Chance’s Personal Growth:
  “What’s his move? He’s obviously doing well. He’s good” ([10:07] Rory)

Conclusion

Episode 257 of "New Rory & MAL" provides a dynamic mix of celebrity analysis, personal storytelling, and engaging discussions on relationships, technology, and sports. The hosts maintain a balance between humor and insightful commentary, offering listeners an entertaining and thought-provoking experience.

Transcript

[Rory]

It's weird. It's a bargain. Steel rod that I keep getting.

[Mal]

Steel rod, that's the name of the bar. This going to a spot named Yo Ro. He hanging out at a spot named Steel Rod, and he. He's wondering why is grabbing his ass. You had the steel rod.

[Joe Budden]

No worry enough.

[Rory]

I love my wife. I love my wife. Let's go ride a bike with my wife.

[Mal]

My wife's real young. My wife's real small.

[Joe Budden]

Let's go to the beach and play with a beach.

[Rory]

Oh, I love my wife. I love my wife.

[Joe Budden]

This is the first single, right?

[Rory]

With my wife.

[Joe Budden]

You and I should go ride a bike with my wife.

[Damaris]

Praise Jesus. God in my life. I like that.

[Rory]

Imagine throwing your whole career away over that.

[Mal]

Over what?

[Joe Budden]

I've never seen a meme.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Or a video really. Kill a whole album. I'm not playing it safe here. That album is not as bad as people make it out to be.

[Mal]

Which one?

[Joe Budden]

The one everyone killed.

[Rory]

The one about his wife named two songs.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I. I couldn't name any. I don't even know the name of the album. Yeah, I listened to it once, and I was like, this isn't as bad as people thought it was.

[Mal]

All right, but when the last time you played that album.

[Joe Budden]

I listened to it one time in my entire life.

[Mal]

So then that means it was bad.

[Rory]

Big day, right?

[Mal]

That means it was bad. If you listen to an album once in your life, that means that album is bad.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not the deciding factor of all music.

[Mal]

I didn't say you were. But if you and 800, 000 people say the same, those aren't even prescriptions.

[Joe Budden]

So I didn't want to hear from you today.

[Mal]

Yes, they are. Look. Hating white boys. Always hating white boys. Yeah.

[Rory]

Mall got a court date after this.

[Damaris]

You look really good in your glasses.

[Mal]

Thank you, Damaris. See, us black people got to stick together in a room full of white hatred. You understand what I'm saying? Like, it's important that we give each other compliments and uplift each other.

[Rory]

That's right.

[Mal]

During our most trying and troubling time.

[Joe Budden]

Well, with those glasses and my combo over, we look like we're in court right now. I look like your court lawyer that.

[Mal]

Is trying to prosecute me. You look like you're trying to send me under the jail. Like, that's what you look. You trying to bring me up with charges, and I wasn't even there.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna use your rap lyrics, too.

[Mal]

As you should. We don't talk about that. I'm down with using rap lyrics in the court.

[Damaris]

You be telling.

[Mal]

Yeah, everything's content. Remember? Content.

[Rory]

Well, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Well, there's some things I keep to myself. I've always agreed with what Mall said, but I never wanted to say it out loud.

[Mal]

What using.

[Joe Budden]

If using lyrics, I think there's a gray area. Like you shouldn't be able to just use any old rap lyric in the court system, but if they're vividly describing the thing they're arrested for, like, down to the detail.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And the video also matches the crime they committed. I feel like maybe that should be allowed in court.

[Mal]

Cause what's the difference between using that and using a wiretap?

[Joe Budden]

It just. It just opens up.

[Mal]

The one is just. One is just on the beat. One is just on a beat. That's all. That's all it is. One is just on the beat. If you tap my phone and I'm talking about this crime and you hear me saying the things that I was saying in a verse, you're gonna use that wiretap in a court of law, so why not use. Use a record?

[Joe Budden]

They're just treating every song like Nas. The message where he just, like, told this vivid story he made up. Now these kids are, like, actually rapping about the crime. Like, yeah, it's. It's evidence.

[Mal]

You get paid for murder now, do you?

[Joe Budden]

I mean, it's always right.

[Mal]

You know how much these little drip artists making videos and on YouTube.

[Rory]

Oh, I. I thought you meant once they get caught, it's kind of clear.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no. I'm talking.

[Joe Budden]

No, the labels get paid then.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's when the labels.

[Joe Budden]

That's when the back catalog streams start spiking after that.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Well, anyways, Chance. Yes.

[Mal]

Condolences.

[Joe Budden]

Is it condolences, though?

[Mal]

He might be happy.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. I've never met a divorce person that was, like, upset. Divorce is tough, but, like, they want to split, typically.

[Mal]

Well, do we know who. Who. Who asked for the divorce?

[Rory]

They're doing the mutual. They're saying it's mutual.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

This was their official statement from both of them, by the way.

[Joe Budden]

I like Chance a lot. I just don't. I have to be honest here. Don't ask for privacy after you put out a public statement. Well, please respect our privacy. No one would have known about this had you guys not told us.

[Damaris]

That's not. That's a lie. Everyone would have eventually known about it because they're going to be public record court documents that are going to come out about it.

[Rory]

Who's looking into that?

[Damaris]

People. People get found out all the time.

[Joe Budden]

1090. Jake is gonna go look into the Chance divorce.

[Damaris]

Like, if y'all think it wasn't gonna get leaked that Chance was divorced, or he could be seen with somebody, she could be seen with somebody. Like, eventually, it's gon. So, yes, we're putting it out on our own terms. We want our own privacy.

[Joe Budden]

I would kind of be on the side of if, when people find out, then I'd put this out. Until then, like, no one needs to know.

[Damaris]

I'm sure that you got to let.

[Mal]

People know you get a divorce, but.

[Joe Budden]

What are you getting ahead of? It's not like it seems like there wasn't some crazy fucking thing that we're going to learn.

[Mal]

No, it's just the fact of, again, they will be seen without each other. If Chance is out with another woman, you know, girlfriend. You know, just to avoid all of that going viral and the wife having to see it when they're already separated, it's like, listen, we're divorced. We're no longer together. So. Which means, in layman's terms, if you see any one of us out with somebody else, okay, there's nothing to report. There's nothing to report. There's no pictures to take. There's no fucking.

[Rory]

I don't know. I don't mention Floyd's projecting his approach because Amara was born before the album.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But no one knew until Amara is my three hat.

[Joe Budden]

More or less.

[Rory]

She. Yes.

[Joe Budden]

It's just something I exploit.

[Rory]

We knew Amar, and Amar was around us because we're close with Rory, and Rory brought her to shows and certain things like that, like. But it never became a thing until he. Until the album. Till was ready to become a thing.

[Damaris]

Amara been a thing.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I. I'm nowhere near as famous as Chance. It was funny, though. Like, when I was out with Amara and when brought into, like, fans or listeners or whatever, and they'd be like, that's clearly your kid, bro. You a kid. I was like, yeah, you never.

[Mal]

I can see how people thought that was a little strange, though, because we talk every other day, like, yeah. And you wouldn't talk about that. I understood how people was.

[Rory]

I hated not talking about it.

[Mal]

Like, what was that? But I understand. I understand what you were doing as well, too, though.

[Joe Budden]

I know. I totally get why people would find it weird without any context or anything.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But, yeah, it was something I was getting adjusted to, and because we talk every day, it was something I wanted to really get used to before I started talking about it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Like, just coming out the gate. Like, just had a kid yesterday and now we have to pod that way.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

That's weird.

[Joe Budden]

That's a lot.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Roy sign NDAs.

[Joe Budden]

What did the NDA say?

[Mal]

Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

Shade Room.

[Damaris]

But they ain't care.

[Mal]

I shay.

[Joe Budden]

That's your fault.

[Mal]

You follow Sh Red.

[Rory]

It said scene.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. How you devalue my brand off a DM I scene.

[Rory]

We good.

[Joe Budden]

There goes all my value for Shade Room. I see everyone talk about Chance. Ruined his career with that wife album just to be divorced. It's funny, but so do we think him.

[Mal]

Him dancing in. I don't know where this was at. Dancing at the Carnival.

[Joe Budden]

Trinidad, maybe. I don't know exactly where this was. Oh, no. Yomi said it was in Ghana, right?

[Damaris]

This was just Carnival.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you were out reaching out the Shade Room. You got the other videos. Okay.

[Mal]

But yeah, that probably was the beginning of the end right there.

[Rory]

You think him getting, like, dancing with a girl ended up getting talked about this?

[Mal]

Bro, you can't. If your girl. If you got a video and that was your girl and fucking, I don't know, some other artists and you. And you see that video and you're not. You're nowhere near, like, what's going on. You're not aware until you see that video.

[Joe Budden]

You would have, of course, but I believe in double standards, and I have a bit of misogyny in my DNA. This is supposed to be Carnival. This is part of it. He was just there enjoying the culture.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's.

[Joe Budden]

Have you guys. You've been. You've been on Eastern Parkway?

[Mal]

Yeah, I've been in Carnival. For real.

[Joe Budden]

So if you go to, like, for real go to Carnival, it's even crazier. Yeah, but Norm, even. Respectfully, Nikki was dancing with somebody when she went down to Trinidad for Carnival. Like, that's part of the culture and the celebration.

[Mal]

Yeah, but my girl. That part of the culture. My wife ain't doing. My wife can't be bent over and less than a bikini with beads all around her and some random dude just behind her gyrating. Like, we not doing. We not. I love the culture, but we don't love it that much. My wife can't do that. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

Well, it's also not your culture.

[Mal]

Whose culture?

[Damaris]

That's not your culture.

[Mal]

Oh, that's not my culture.

[Damaris]

You're Caribbean.

[Mal]

My father's born and raised in St. Thomas.

[Damaris]

Okay, dude, but do you, like, participate in that culture because you Can I.

[Mal]

Just said I've really been to Carnival. For real.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, Volume one. Ah, it makes sense now. Oh, so many things just connected in my head.

[Rory]

Go ahead, Rory.

[Joe Budden]

No, I just. Because you guys know I'm like a Rockefeller, like nerd. No, now I see why they chose St. Thomas. It never made sense that like, I like St. Thomas. Don't get me wrong. Great spot. I now it makes sense why that island was picked.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, so it's your family and Tim Duncan Wikipedia page.

[Mal]

Virgin Islands. Yeah, pretty much.

[Rory]

There was a guy, a statistician that put out numbers of how many times Chance referenced his wife on the big day. My point is, with the album and everything, like, how does he move forward? What do you guys think is next for him? What is he going to do? He's obviously doing well. He's good.

[Mal]

How much does his content change after this?

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying. Like, does he go back to smoking cigs and taking acid?

[Mal]

Oh, he's never stopped smoking.

[Rory]

Does he? Well, yeah. Does he go back to like publicly doing drugs and stop talking about God and Obama? Like, what's his move?

[Joe Budden]

Well, I don't think he was just liked God because he was with his wife.

[Mal]

I would hope not.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think.

[Mal]

I hope he had a relationship with.

[Joe Budden]

God before that and he was talking about God well before that relationship. And let's not act like Chance was doing like hardcore gangster. It's stripper records. His wife acid rap that.

[Mal]

Why do you want him to go back to drugs?

[Rory]

Because it makes good music.

[Mal]

Yeah, but he has a family now.

[Rory]

He has raised daughters.

[Joe Budden]

Even the content.

[Mal]

I don't recommend co parenting. You can hold them for the weekend on acid.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't think that's a really good parenting.

[Rory]

No, no, they'll be with her for the weekend.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, but that's just not a good idea.

[Rory]

You wrote 10 days in 10 days. 10. Yeah, that's the whole impetus of that mixtape. But he also 10 days do acid.

[Joe Budden]

Before his wife was saying he was in LA living an awful life and then moved back to Chicago. This was before the I love my wife God is God Rev Run time that he was putting out.

[Rory]

See that in that?

[Joe Budden]

So he changed before his wife. So I don't think we're going to get a bunch of new. We may get different content of being a single father and like learning how to again, which I think is great content in my opinion. So Chance is what, almost 30, right?

[Mal]

Chances older than 30.

[Joe Budden]

He's around me, I'm like 33.

[Rory]

No, he's not.

[Joe Budden]

Chances younger than me.

[Rory]

He's young.

[Damaris]

He's 30.

[Joe Budden]

30 years old.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he looks older.

[Rory]

His birthday is in a couple. Birthday coming up. Come on, Chance. Yeah, go. Go back to Jamaica, take some acid.

[Joe Budden]

I think a lot of his fan base could probably relate to that struggle of, like, being freshly single in your 30s. That'll be good content. Chance is a good rapper, and even though I didn't go back to the.

[Rory]

Big day, that should be his new name.

[Joe Budden]

Chance is a good rapper.

[Rory]

Chance is a good rapper.

[Mal]

Y'all don't listen to Chance.

[Rory]

I.

[Joe Budden]

Admittedly you don't.

[Mal]

You listen to his album one time.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But all his music before that still is on repeat.

[Rory]

No Coloring book is.

[Joe Budden]

Is one of my favorite albums, period.

[Rory]

It's a great album.

[Mal]

I'm not saying he don't make good music, but y'all are not Chance fans.

[Rory]

Like, I still am a fan. His last effort is garbage. I'm a fan of Chance, though. Like, I like his music. Big Day is awful.

[Joe Budden]

He would say it's didn't do that. Would you guys really think the big days is bad?

[Rory]

It's bad. I. I remember I'm not a Twitter guy. I listen to that. Like, in my room, I was like, this sucks. Hot Shower was the single. I was like, there's no way. This is a real.

[Joe Budden]

Should have taken a hot shower. You were in the house already.

[Rory]

There's no way. This is a real.

[Mal]

You missed it. You missed your opportunity.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Ever take a hot shower?

[Mal]

Ever take a hot shower again? This.

[Rory]

This album was so bad, it broke him and his manager up. They don't with you.

[Mal]

That's a bad out.

[Rory]

He got sued.

[Mal]

Yeah. When you look at your manager like, yo, why you let me put that.

[Damaris]

Out when you don't want 20?

[Mal]

Yeah, why you let me put that?

[Rory]

They had a lawsuit over how bad this album was. Like, this thing. It didn't ruin his career, but it's by far okay. This of his career.

[Joe Budden]

Nas survived Nostradamus. Like, it's still Chance. It's still Chance to rape.

[Mal]

That's. I don't know where you was trying to take us with that just now.

[Joe Budden]

That rappers have bad albums.

[Mal]

You said Chance, but using Nas.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying Chance is Nas.

[Mal]

No, rappers have Nas.

[Rory]

The rapper.

[Mal]

Nas Take a Chance, nasdaq, Escobar. No, listen, rappers do have albums that are like, ah, wasn't so good. But I just don't think that. I don't know where Chance goes from here as Far as musically, like, what his inspiration is, what his sound is. He can't change it too drastically, though.

[Joe Budden]

I think he's in a perfect position.

[Mal]

That looks fake.

[Joe Budden]

He's in a perfect position.

[Damaris]

He can't change too drastically.

[Joe Budden]

Either he took a lot of time off after the big day, or the worst day.

[Rory]

2016, by the way, was when. I'm sorry, that was coloring book.

[Joe Budden]

The next thing. And not to say it's all a rollout, but next thing we know, Chance is back in the news with a divorce. Everyone was upset about him just talking about his wife on the last project. I think the anticipation actually is forming now for Chance Small, but I think it's starting.

[Mal]

I think he gets full gospel.

[Joe Budden]

He did that already.

[Mal]

No, but I mean, like, he's gonna lean into gospel, though. Like, he's gonna go gospel gospel.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think so. I think that time came and went. I actually think ye may have killed that for him. Cause when he was working with Kanye, Heavy was when Kanye was going back into the Christian shit and Chance was writing a lot of that stuff. And I think the big day has a lot of that elements in it that you guys dislike because you guys hate Jesus. That's really the problem. He rose on Sunday. I don't know if you guys knew that. Don't even give. Don't make me give you the pulverized bar.

[Rory]

Wow. No one just heard what Damaris just said.

[Joe Budden]

I heard it.

[Rory]

I tried to ignore that was a bar.

[Joe Budden]

This could be the turn for Chance that's needed. That's all I'm saying. Well, the same reason we dislike the last one. He's divorced. New content. It's. He's. The stain is kind of wore off.

[Rory]

No, it's been five years.

[Joe Budden]

A long fucking time.

[Rory]

But this. But, Rory, it's not only has it been five years. It's been five years, and no one's checking on him. No one wants new music from Chance.

[Joe Budden]

We sat with him at bet. He's been directing a lot of stuff. He's been in a different world and being successful in it.

[Mal]

So my music.

[Rory]

Yes, thank you. Because he's a coach on the Voice. He's a mainstream.

[Mal]

I don't think. I don't think Chance. He's in that space where. And it's crazy because he's only 30, but he's in that space where I think people really don't even care if he puts out more music. I think Chance is a creative, though, so I think he will do other things creatively. But I don't think that people are like, damn, we need the new Chance album now. It'd be dope to see Chance, you know, directing, writing, doing other things. But I don't think people are waiting for the next Chance album. I don't. I don't believe. I mean, I'm sure some of his fan base is. He has made a new project, but even with the. I don't think people will be Twitter.

[Joe Budden]

Sigma, he has a huge fan base that is waiting a new project. And with the amount of time that's passed, plus this divorce announcement, if Chance comes out with a record, all will be forgiven. That stain will be gone instantly.

[Mal]

He's like a. He's sort of like a.

[Joe Budden]

That's. That's actually the beauty of this era, when you feel like things come and go so quick. Yeah, your bullshit can come and go very quick as well. You can get a new restart pretty.

[Mal]

Quickly because look at Childish Gambino.

[Rory]

Mm.

[Mal]

When is the last time he gave us an album?

[Rory]

Oh, when was that album?

[Joe Budden]

I thought it was the one that never ended up on streaming. A listener corrected me and said it did end up back on streaming, but.

[Mal]

But. But. But Childish is like.

[Joe Budden]

And it was a great project.

[Mal]

He gives us, like, dope records, but then he'll put out another season of ATL of Atlanta. I mean, yeah, it's like he's doing. Like, he's still. He'll drop some music, but you could tell that's not where he's.

[Joe Budden]

But that was. I mean, Donald Glover, that was always kind of his side thing, up until because of the Internet, was his music. That was a side gig. He was in what community. He was writing for 30 Rock. Like, he was doing standup. That was always a side gig for him.

[Rory]

2020 was that album, by the way.

[Joe Budden]

Whereas Chance has always been a rapper. No pun intended.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think he. I think he more so should. Should follow this. This Donald Glover blueprint, do other things creatively. Give us a record every now and then. That's dope. But I don't think that he'll. He. He should focus solely on just putting out an album anytime soon.

[Joe Budden]

Of course, 2016 was a very long time ago, but are we forgetting what coloring book did? Are we just gonna erase Chances?

[Mal]

No, but that's.

[Joe Budden]

We know we could give a record. No problem with Wayne and 2 Chainz. Played everywhere. You didn't need to be a nerd like me to enjoy Chance the Rapper. Like, he can make real singles too.

[Mal]

For sure.

[Rory]

They did that on Ellen, remember?

[Mal]

That performed it.

[Rory]

That was a good perform. They had the paper flying everywhere. Dancers. And it was. I was living in Chicago at that time. Chance was the biggest thing in that city. And he was outside. I saw him everywhere.

[Joe Budden]

He just for.

[Mal]

Well, when was that?

[Rory]

This was 2016. Like. I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Mal]

You know what I mean? So a lot has changed.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. He just did. I think it was the coloring book. Five year anniversary.

[Rory]

Yeah. He's doing shows.

[Joe Budden]

He did the Barclays center. Sold it up.

[Rory]

He did an acid rap tour, too.

[Mal]

Very weird. Chance has a huge following.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying acid rap rather.

[Mal]

He did acid rap at the Barclays. This is like.

[Joe Budden]

But if there's that big of a stain, I still don't even think you.

[Mal]

Can do that with not so much a stain. I just don't think. You know, I think sometimes people just like people for the creative that they are. If they get music, cool. But I don't think people are sitting around or at least I don't see it online. I don't see people calling for a new Chance album. So how.

[Joe Budden]

How would you do your divorce announcement?

[Rory]

Delete your money bag?

[Mal]

Comment change? Yeah, right.

[Joe Budden]

And do you think they went through. Do you think they went through edits for, like, the creative? Like, with sending something to Peach? Like, sometimes you have some notes or whatever. Like, how do you think they landed on that color scheme? Or little noisy background? Like, add some flares.

[Mal]

Papa Mache. It looks like mache. That's definitely paper mache.

[Rory]

Papyrus.

[Mal]

Is that recycled paper? Papyrus.

[Joe Budden]

They probably did that on an ad.

[Mal]

Announcing you announcing a divorce on a piece of papyrus.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe it has meaning.

[Mal]

And.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, is that on his story? Not even on his put it on a feed page.

[Mal]

If not, you don't know. I'm divorced in 24 hours. Hours. Then it. It is what it is.

[Joe Budden]

That's up.

[Mal]

It's crazy that this is that, like, celebrities have to do now, but this.

[Joe Budden]

Would never really have the legs it did if it wasn't for that album being about his wife.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I guarantee you people wouldn't even.

[Mal]

Of course, this. This. This adds to people that already think that.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's the album so bad.

[Mal]

Yeah. So they're like, look, the album's terrible and your divorce is over with. I mean, your marriage is over.

[Joe Budden]

I don't really know the statistics. And this was a real thought I had. I remember when Chance, like, got married. Not that like, we're friends or anything, but it was a thing that was online.

[Mal]

Let's Just be real.

[Joe Budden]

I remember going, damn. He.

[Mal]

Let's, let's.

[Joe Budden]

I get the God shit. But he's.

[Mal]

How long.

[Joe Budden]

He's fucking young and famous right now.

[Mal]

How long has he been married?

[Damaris]

Six years.

[Joe Budden]

Getting married 2015 or somewhere around there.

[Mal]

Getting married at 22, 23.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Like come on.

[Rory]

They started dating after reuniting a decade later in 2013. The couple began dating and they eventually tied the knot in 2019.

[Mal]

Oh, so. Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

But they were together for a while. I remember he was rapping over the Monica about her. Like they were a public item for quite some time.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Joe Budden]

Which is great. Let love win.

[Mal]

It's tough to stay together these days, man. It's tough. You got so many, so many things pulling at you and you know, your attention is pulled in so many different ways.

[Rory]

10 year relationship.

[Mal]

They would have got a 10 years.

[Rory]

Dating for five, married for five.

[Mal]

Dating for five, married for five.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's a good run.

[Mal]

They got married the first year they were dating.

[Joe Budden]

No, they dated for five years, then they got married.

[Mal]

Oh, I thought you meant like they. They dated and got married. They was dated and married five years. Like how is that?

[Damaris]

I don't think that that's a bad run. Especially when you meet somebody. So he met her at what, 20? Or like they started dating again at 20. I don't think that that's a bad run.

[Rory]

It's awful.

[Damaris]

That's awful.

[Mal]

I'm just getting married.

[Rory]

Give away your whole twenties like that. Especially when you're, when you're chance. You just put out like a number one out like you. He was on top of the world when you blowing trumpet and singing with the Obamas at the White House.

[Damaris]

Give away your twenties. What do you mean by that? What did he give away his ability to other women?

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rory]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's one part of it. But being able to experience the world sometimes is easier when you are single and are freer.

[Rory]

Yeah, daughters are a blessing. I get all that. That's awesome. Congrat. You have kids. That's beautiful. Just living a free life in the decade of your 20s. Can't trade that with for anything.

[Joe Budden]

I respect people that do that and make it work and if that's something they want to do, who am I to judge at all? But outside looking in, in this era. Yeah, I think it's a huge risk to take. I think it's a huge risk to get Married in your 30s in this.

[Mal]

Generation in this generation, because it was very common to be married in your 20s.

[Joe Budden]

Way different before, different mind state, different access.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was different. But again, what changed? Access. The access you have to people, the access you have to information, the access you have to all kind of shit. The access we have to spending our money as quickly as we do. Like access, change and then temptations. You see naked people all the time. You open your phone, even if you don't want to see it, it's in your phone.

[Joe Budden]

And just access to experiences. Like outside of the obvious, which is other women like that.

[Mal]

Well, just temptation even. Not the act of it, just the temptation of it, just seeing it, just having it so readily available.

[Joe Budden]

But the way we used to joke like, damn all, like, how are all these 20 year old girls affording to go to Turks and be like, oh, we know how more access. But even women that are not being flown out by athletes or whatever, I see young girls. Just because it's easier to travel and get around these days where you can experience. They can go live in fucking Europe. There's apps now that could budget exactly where to stay, what to do. Like it doesn't have to be ho shit. It's just so much easier to experience the world now than it ever was before settling down in a marriage.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I pray for anyone that tries to do it.

[Mal]

It's tough.

[Rory]

They got engaged on the 4th of July in 2018. You think they look at America the same now?

[Joe Budden]

How does your brain work?

[Rory]

Well, it's the fourth of July. Well, think about it. It's America's Independence Day. They have their independence back. Maybe they're taking back America.

[Mal]

I'm gonna pray for you.

[Rory]

Chance is big America Day.

[Damaris]

Why waste your prayers?

[Mal]

You gonna need it.

[Rory]

That's a waste of prayer.

[Joe Budden]

God's got return to center on that one.

[Damaris]

Y'all got better to do. I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Budden]

You wasted a stamp.

[Mal]

Yeah, you wasted a stamp to Jesus, man.

[Joe Budden]

Well, prayers for them. I don't want to joke on anyone's demise of a relationship, but as Louis CK says, I mean, there's never been a marriage that ended a divorce that wasn't supposed to. Yeah, like, don't treat it like a puppy. Die like, oh, oh my God. No, that was supposed to happen.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If a good marriage ends in divorce, then you should have some, some tears. But you know, prayers to them.

[Rory]

I think good marriages end in widows.

[Joe Budden]

That's true.

[Rory]

Like, that's when you should be like.

[Joe Budden]

Death, like, like their partner dying. Yeah. Soul mate just Just perishing.

[Rory]

Killed. That's usually just unexpectedly, like, murdered.

[Joe Budden]

Are you okay today?

[Rory]

I'm fine. I'm just saying, like, he's having really dark thoughts. Celebrate divorce, supposedly.

[Joe Budden]

I think you should celebrate divorce, to be quite honest.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, two people want to get away.

[Mal]

If it was a horrible marriage. Yeah. Should celebrate divorce. If it was a horrible.

[Damaris]

If it was a horrible marriage. I also think that people are getting divorced a little bit too easily now. It's kind of like, y'all. It's like the vows don't mean anymore.

[Mal]

That don't mean nothing.

[Rory]

Val. Vows.

[Damaris]

Vows. Your vows.

[Joe Budden]

You're not wrong. But that goes back to, I think, the pressure of the access of social media, too, that you feel like, all right, we're five years in. You have to get married. If we're in this long of a relationship, I can't be showing myself to the world, not as a married woman. So pressure gets put on at that point, rather than just seeing a relationship through to see what time actually makes sense for us. And I know family pressure is that way, too. It's not just social media where your. Your mother might be like, oh, wow, five years now, huh? Still no ring. That'll push you into divorce quicker.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If you do it prematurely. I don't know.

[Mal]

I owe Clay from Love is Blonde and apology because he pressed you. No. So it came out a lawyer. A lawyer had got. She had got some info on the contracts of Love is Blind, and contractually on Love is Blind, if you propose.

[Rory]

Oh, I saw this.

[Mal]

You almost have to go all the way to the altar, or else you owe the production company. Like, you're in. You're in, like, breach of a contract because they get paid $1,000 each episode with a maximum, I guess, of 8,000, because it's eight weeks or whatever. And I think once you. When she said once you get engaged, you almost have to go all the way to the altar. Like, once you get to the altar, you can fucking be like, nah, I'm not doing this. But they have to have that footage. They have to be able to film that moment of y'all going to the altar, or you're in breach of a contract and may owe the production company somebody.

[Joe Budden]

We. I mean, we briefly spoke about that. No, didn't we say, like, I feel like you have to do that regardless.

[Mal]

Like, we now it's like, contractually, like.

[Rory]

But even with that, you could have done better.

[Mal]

So Clay was just. He was just doing what he signed up for, so he's not that Bad of a guy.

[Joe Budden]

He's just a man of his word.

[Mal]

He's just a man of his word honoring his contract that he signed. You know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

Cause he technically didn't sign a contract with her yet. Had he went through with it, then they would have been in a contract.

[Damaris]

But he could have gave.

[Joe Budden]

So he just respects contracts.

[Damaris]

He could have gave her a heads up way before they got to that aisle.

[Rory]

There were so many outs before that moment.

[Mal]

No, you could listen.

[Rory]

That's the best moment.

[Mal]

There was definitely some outs before that moment. But I feel like he may have just been honoring the contract that he signed.

[Joe Budden]

They were doing a reality show. He's still sick, don't get me wrong.

[Mal]

Oh, no, for sure. Sick. Hall of fame, for sure. But we kind of killed him a little bit. And it's like he may have just been following his contract.

[Joe Budden]

Did he send you the contract or you just saw.

[Mal]

No, no, no. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a lawyer on. On Instagram. And she got hit. Like, I guess she got a copy of the contract from the participants, and after her reading through it, she's like, you almost have to go to the altar. You can be in breach of contract and owe them money.

[Joe Budden]

Now that you think about it, thousand dollars an episode and you have to have a Lawyer review it. 5%. Yeah.

[Rory]

Someone.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not owing anybody.

[Mal]

I'm going all the way.

[Joe Budden]

Because after taxes, what am I, three. Three grand. $1,500 if I make it eight episodes.

[Mal]

Now I'm going all the way.

[Rory]

Someone DM me and said if they do the alter scene, they get an extra $10,000 bonus.

[Mal]

See?

[Rory]

So that. That could be another incentive.

[Mal]

So Clay.

[Joe Budden]

So he was really looking out for her.

[Mal]

Then if he bust her, if he bust a half, then either way, he's breaking her heart.

[Rory]

They each get 10 either way.

[Joe Budden]

Breaking her heart. Either way, it's going to have to happen on camera. So whether they did it by the pool or at the altar, at least she's walking away with an extra ten grand.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mal]

Clay might be a hero. Now that I look at it, he might be a hero. He might be an American hero. Shout out to Clay, man.

[Joe Budden]

What? Did you watch the gauging off American Heroes? Like, where would. Where would you rank him in America?

[Mal]

Oh, it's. It's Mark.

[Joe Budden]

Like, I'm talking about like a World War II vet.

[Mal]

That was Martin, Malcolm and Clay.

[Joe Budden]

Gosh. That order right there, that's the order right There.

[Mal]

Wait, man. He's honored a contract? Like, now that we have information, like, we can't. Because I understand. When that first aired, like, the Internet killed him. But now, you know, it's like, yo, listen. Contractually, you almost.

[Rory]

You wouldn't honor your fiance. Just the contract.

[Mal]

Just the contract.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, contract.

[Rory]

I signed it.

[Joe Budden]

Fiance. You don't have the contract.

[Rory]

That was a verbal promise. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Out of heartbreak, Learning about Chance and his wife Clay at the altar or Gypsy Rose and her husband. Where did that rank as far as heartbreaks to you? Like, just finding out that love wasn't real when this.

[Mal]

That Gypsy Rose. When we talked about it, we thought these two were related. First of all.

[Joe Budden]

Wait. We still don't know if they.

[Mal]

Okay, well, I did.

[Joe Budden]

We don't know if they aren't.

[Mal]

They look just alike.

[Joe Budden]

This doesn't confirm yes or no.

[Mal]

Yeah, they look just alike. Somewhere down the line, these two are, like cousins. Gotta be.

[Joe Budden]

Gypsy Rose announces separation from husband Ryan Anderson. These crazy last, last headlines were that Ryan was blowing her back up. And then we get right to this.

[Mal]

Nothing about this.

[Joe Budden]

Love cannot win in this.

[Mal]

Start doing. What about this guy right here? Ryan Anderson says blow backs out.

[Damaris]

He look like he could suck a piercing through a hole.

[Mal]

Sucko. Excuse me.

[Rory]

Wow.

[Mal]

Suck a what through a hole piercing?

[Damaris]

He don't need it.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Budden]

That's what gives him that vibe, though. I'm not judging you. I just want to know why you need to know.

[Damaris]

I need to be able to recognize the eater. You don't.

[Rory]

Well, he clearly eats a lot.

[Mal]

No, he's clearly an eater. We got that part correct. He's clearly an eater.

[Rory]

It looks like Miss Doubtfire.

[Damaris]

This poor guy. He didn't sign up for this, y'all. He's not a celebrity.

[Rory]

He signed up for this. Look who you married.

[Mal]

Contractually, we don't know. We don't know what contract Ryan Anderson is in. We got to start looking at the contract.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, Gypsy came with a lot of baggage. If you think about it, though, like, the best I could do is blow your back out. I can't deal with that trauma. Yeah, look at your ex. Look who I got to compete with. I'm not murdering your family for you. Ryan set himself up for, like, a bad. She already got a new man.

[Mal]

Yeah, she reconnected with her ex.

[Damaris]

Y'all got Gypsy.

[Joe Budden]

She matching tattoo. It's been a week.

[Mal]

Reconnected with her ex and already has matching tattoos.

[Joe Budden]

You know, a. Yo, Gypsy is a big hoe.

[Rory]

She got a wolf tattoo.

[Mal]

See that just let you know that women never let go of they pass. Yo, they always got a on deck, like, he in the wings waiting for you. Waiting for some to go wrong with y'all. And he going to be right there to scoop it.

[Joe Budden]

Gypsy's the problem.

[Rory]

So you say no shit.

[Joe Budden]

Can we look at the common denominator here? We already know she's batshit crazy because she comes from. Her mother manipulated her mentally ill ex boyfriend to kill her mom, do her dirty work. She's not even 10 toes. Give someone else to do your dirt crazy, then snitches on him, gets out of jail, he's doing life true. Gets with this guy blowing her back out. We think she's loyal. Finally, because everyone's clowning on the Internet, she gets on whatever Shade Room podcast and is like, nah. He throws the dick down. Week later, divorced.

[Rory]

Can we get that as a sound bite?

[Mal]

That was crazy out of context.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's gonna sound nuts.

[Mal]

He throws the dick down. What?

[Joe Budden]

And now she's with an ex marine that probably wasn't in the Marines.

[Rory]

So they. They. They got on Tik Tok Live together.

[Joe Budden]

And said she's with Mr. Stolen Valard, man.

[Rory]

They got on Tik Tok live and said they're not hooking up.

[Joe Budden]

They just have matching tattoos.

[Rory]

They just hang out and got matching tattoos.

[Damaris]

Yeah, a little tuft of hair on top of his head is bothering me. But I think y'all should let Gypsy rock.

[Rory]

The real ill people are the people attracted to her.

[Joe Budden]

All right, so when there's a. When there's. When there's blood in the streets, let's come back here to just let Gypsy rock.

[Damaris]

When there's blood in the street.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, let's lock this menace up before someone else dies.

[Damaris]

To Gypsy, the person that killed her mother, who was abusing her.

[Mal]

Well, he actually.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry, she didn't kill her mother. That was abusing her. Her ex boyfriend did.

[Joe Budden]

She got. She manipulated her mentally ill boyfriend to do it. That's not an opinion. That's a fact.

[Damaris]

That's actually not a fact.

[Mal]

Yes, it is.

[Damaris]

Already had this conversation. She did not manipulate him. You don't manipulate a Who rapes your mother's corpse. He threatened to kill her.

[Joe Budden]

He didn't rape the mother's court.

[Damaris]

Yes, he did.

[Joe Budden]

He got a little handsy, but I don't think with the corpse.

[Mal]

That's sick.

[Damaris]

Yo. I can't. I forgot which pocket he was. He was.

[Rory]

Look, he was all in, but it Took her to be like, nah, you got like, she was his Phil Jackson. Like, he had it in him.

[Joe Budden]

She was the front office of the entire.

[Rory]

He had it in him. But she was like, go get run the offense.

[Joe Budden]

And I think she even pulled. Pulled up to the door with the knife and was like, nah, I can't do it. You got it.

[Damaris]

That's. None of that happened.

[Joe Budden]

I watched the series. They would never lie.

[Mal]

Yeah, they wouldn't. That's true.

[Damaris]

What? Like, I don't even know. I don't even know what to say to people. Why are y'all like this?

[Joe Budden]

Speaking of eaters, you all right? I texted Damaris and Julian a late night text, a risky text that never got a reply to it. And I felt like kind of away for the past like three days. It was like 1am and I was finally watching Impeachment. Remember the people that did the O.J. simpson show on FX? They did one about Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton. I'm late to the party. I know, but I feel like the Clintons suppressed the promotion of it because there's no way. I learned about the Versace one and the OJ One and was at the edge of my seat. And then they also did one about Monica Lewinsky and no one fucking told me. So. I was really young when that Monica Lewinsky shit happened. Of course I was aware of it, but I was young. I didn't really know all the details of it. Like, Bill really let his best eater go. Monica was ready to risk it all for Bill. Most 10 toes bitch I've ever seen in my life. She was ready to. And Bill just let that go. That's his biggest fault. I understand the Epstein island flight logs are a thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But the fact that you would just let a loyal eater like that go is crazy to me. Why do we not support Monica more? That's the type of women I think need to be around.

[Mal]

I see what you're saying.

[Joe Budden]

We gave Monica a lot of shit and I don't think we should have.

[Mal]

But not for the President.

[Joe Budden]

Especially for the. Are you not a patriot? That's.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's for real. Yeah, but fuck the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Joe Budden]

You know, Trump has a five. Lewinsky's on speed dial.

[Mal]

Oh, he grabs him by the pussy. You know, he got those. But I'm just saying, I. It's just. It's just that Monica Lewinsky thing was just a terrible. Well, I think if Bill would have kept it honest, it wouldn't have been as bad.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he wouldn't have Got impeached if that was the case. Yeah, he lied under oath, but.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

I now just keep it real. Like, yeah, generation was really up because I have a very bad view of Monica Lewinsky because I was so young and everyone was just shitting on her while I was growing up. She became a punchline. Like her name became a punchline. I'm looking back at this like, not Bill. If anything is the problem. Monica was just a 10 toes ride or die. Yeah, I would want any woman to be as loyal as Monica was.

[Mal]

Matter of fact.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, we gotta talk. We have to talk about Bill Clinton.

[Mal]

Do we? Julian's here. You know he ain't gonna like that.

[Rory]

I'm gonna go to the bathroom.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no. I'm actually about to compliment him.

[Mal]

He calls him the big guy.

[Rory]

Biggest.

[Joe Budden]

Despite what he did in Haiti, everywhere else.

[Mal]

Joe, just throw that away.

[Joe Budden]

Let's. Let's just put that to the side just for the sake of this conversation.

[Rory]

You didn't have to bring it up.

[Joe Budden]

We talking about. What was the name? Ryan Murphy? Whoever was Gypsy Rose Ryan.

[Mal]

Ryan Anderson.

[Joe Budden]

Bill Clinton must have been throwing it down. Look at the way Monica stayed ten toes for him. And look at the way Hillary's been staying ten toes for him. Any chick that Bill fucks becomes the most loyal woman we've ever seen in our lives.

[Rory]

He's an eight.

[Damaris]

Hillary's.

[Joe Budden]

He might be in a 12.

[Damaris]

Hillary's off herself. Think about that, nigga.

[Rory]

That's not true at all.

[Mal]

I think Hillary stepped out on bill.

[Joe Budden]

They had Mrs. Soprano playing Hillary Clinton in this series. Yo, Hillary held it down from Arkansas all the way to now. Bill was anything that was moving. And Hillary was just coming on 60 Minutes like, yeah, no, I know. That's my homegirl.

[Mal]

That's who your og like, you know, not to slip up on camera like, nah, we all know each other. Like, we're all friends.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we cool.

[Mal]

But then you go home and you gotta curse your husband out like, yo, who was that? Who you was with? I just told the world that's my best friend. Like, I have to meet her now. Like, now we have to develop a relationship. Like, we have to know each other.

[Rory]

Do we need a photo together?

[Mal]

Yeah, we have to. Like, she has to come over for dinner. Like, it's over.

[Joe Budden]

And after she does the 60 Minutes interview with Bill during the Monica thing, they talk about some other girl that came out like 10 years before when he was governor that he was. And mind you, before they walk out there, she's telling, like, the Clinton AIDS. Like, oh, Shorty. She's been in our lives for 10 years. Bill's been that girl forever. Of course I know who it is.

[Rory]

Swag.

[Joe Budden]

They sit down, do 60 minutes. She's like, I mean, I'm not here to talk about my marriage. I'm with Bill on whatever Bill wants to do. There's no arrangement here. We love each other. You don't believe in marriage. Like, he tore apart 60 minutes. I'm like, now I understand why Hillary was actually a presidential candidate. Anytime someone throws something to Hillary, she knows exactly what to say.

[Mal]

She's a vet seasoned.

[Joe Budden]

Next day, one of her aides comes up and is like, hey, like, a whole phone call leaked. Like, yeah, they were fucking for real. And now the whole world knows it. And Hillary's like, that's the problem with politics. No pain threshold. And then turns around with. Walks out the door to, like, a million cameras and is like, I love Bill Clinton, y'all.

[Mal]

It's like, gangster.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Bill has the best dick of all time.

[Mal]

Yo, is that a sound bite, too?

[Rory]

We can clip that, too. Yeah, I'll send it to him.

[Joe Budden]

Bill is not that interesting.

[Rory]

What do you mean he's not that interesting?

[Mal]

Bill Clinton is not.

[Joe Budden]

He plays saxophone, don't get me wrong.

[Mal]

That's cool. Yeah, he's a genius.

[Rory]

No, like, his memory is actually insane. Like, he can recite pages. Page, like, multiple.

[Joe Budden]

But does that get the panties wet, is what I'm saying.

[Rory]

I think Oppenheimer, right?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So remember when he. When he. That girl's riding him and she pulls the book, and it happens to be, like, the rare language and no one knows, and he, like, reads it, and he's like, it's like that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but he's creating a nuke. Bill was just using the nukes.

[Rory]

He was the president. That's way cooler.

[Mal]

Yeah. That is the President.

[Joe Budden]

He said all but two words to Monica Lewinsky in the entire series, and that was kiss my dick.

[Mal]

That's how you supposed to do it, though. We asked what to talk. You know what it is when you come to the Oval.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm saying when you come to.

[Mal]

The Oval, you know what it is like, Come on, Mimi. And Oval. You know what's going down.

[Damaris]

That's not how it happened on Scandal, though.

[Mal]

Well, scandal skin. We know that's not how it happened. No, Scandal. Loosely based on the lives of the President.

[Joe Budden]

Remember those Scandal days? You went to a few Scandal watch parties. Don't lie.

[Mal]

1.

[Joe Budden]

They were in there.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Scandal Watch Parties. Always had them.

[Rory]

I Don't know Scandal.

[Mal]

You didn't watch Scandal?

[Rory]

No, I've heard of it. I never watched it.

[Damaris]

He didn't watch Scandal or House of Cards, but hangs a bill all the time.

[Joe Budden]

I watched, like, three seasons of it. Couldn't tell you one thing that happened or who anyone's name was.

[Rory]

I didn't watch the Watch. Party's a Monster.

[Joe Budden]

They were in there. What was that?

[Rory]

Nothing, I'm just explaining why I didn't watch House.

[Mal]

Spacey's a monster. How you know Kevin Spacey's a monster?

[Rory]

Ask everybody.

[Mal]

He was under your bed.

[Joe Budden]

He looks like it.

[Mal]

100%. That's the boogeyman. That's what the boogeyman look like.

[Joe Budden]

Kevin Spacey, he has one of those faces where anything he's accused of, you're.

[Mal]

Like, yeah, I could see it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, checks out.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, Scandal is good. And y'all should watch it, though, if you like presidential dick sucking, you would like that.

[Rory]

Speaking.

[Joe Budden]

That's what. Kerry Washington's in that.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I'm gonna start Ultimatum this weekend.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

And watch the Love Is Blind reunion. Because everybody keeps telling me I have to watch the reunion now.

[Damaris]

Okay, I'm gonna send you exactly which episode to watch of the Ultimatum, and I'm gonna put me, you, and Julian in a group chat.

[Mal]

So should I go back and watch all of the seasons of Love Is Blind?

[Rory]

I don't think.

[Damaris]

Not all of them, no.

[Joe Budden]

And I heard this was the best one, so.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, season one.

[Mal]

Because now. Now. What do they call the people that watch Lovers Blind? What is that?

[Damaris]

Fan Three Balling Mice Horse.

[Mal]

Damaris.

[Joe Budden]

Basic, basically.

[Mal]

No, no, hold on. I got this. I got this. See, Damaris, you can't. You can't just say anything, though. Like, you got it. You got to make sound somewhat, like, believable. Three Blind Mice. Like, who? Where? Where? Show me where there's. Yeah, they're saying that.

[Rory]

Last time I heard from them, they were in Shrek.

[Mal]

No, that's not what they call them.

[Joe Budden]

And the last. The last season I watched the Love is Blind, I already showed you. The only clip you needed to see was when that. That dude was gay and she found out, like, after they were engaged, and then he turned on that show.

[Rory]

And being in the closet is so.

[Damaris]

Funny, but, like, coming out the closet on the show.

[Rory]

What a dickhead.

[Mal]

I think that black dude that was on there is gay, though.

[Rory]

Which one?

[Mal]

The one with the braids? Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, same.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But.

[Mal]

And I think. And I think. And I think the girl that, like, his fiance. I forgot her name. I think she kind of sensed that. Cause I'm not gonna lie. Any dude that's willing to wait till marriage to have sex, any guy that's.

[Rory]

That religious, it's like, come on.

[Joe Budden]

Or his could just really love Jesus.

[Mal]

Brittany. Brittany was off him.

[Rory]

This was him.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

His penis might have been really little. He might have had a problem staying hard. Like, this Would have been multiple reasons. He wouldn't have wanted her to see that before marriage.

[Rory]

Nah, you got to see his mannerisms and how he conducts himself.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I can kind of tell by the smile and eyebrows from the dude. Oh, the fellas was. Once he got his phone back, the.

[Damaris]

Fellas was blowing it up.

[Rory]

He was on his line.

[Mal]

His boyfriend was like. His boyfriend was like, yo, where you at?

[Rory]

No, this is how sick Kenneth is.

[Joe Budden]

He.

[Rory]

They have a conversation, they end it.

[Mal]

Nah, you know what? I knew he was gay, she said, because he had came home, like, crazy late one night, and he was like. She was like, yeah. So, like, what was you doing, though? He said, oh, you know, I had to get my hair twisted. I was like, any that say they had to get their hair twisted is why they was out all night.

[Rory]

Got his guts twisted.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she gets your hair twisted at the crib.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

So he. When he. When he ended it with her, because his whole thing. As soon as they got the phones back, he lived on his phone. And then when he ended it with her in, like, the same motion, he's like, so that's it, right? And she's like, I guess. And he just grabs his phone and calls. His man's like, yo, are you here yet? He's like, yo. He's like, yo, I'm outside.

[Mal]

I'm about to come through.

[Joe Budden]

About to come through for friend support, right?

[Mal]

Well, I guess to help him move his stuff and, like, yeah, of course. But yeah, something about that relationship. I was like, I don't know. And then I heard his. His cousin came out on Facebook and said that he was gay.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Coming out the closet cousin was like, yo, he's definitely coming out on Facebook. Might be the gayest way to come out.

[Mal]

No, he didn't come out. His cousin that's even gay saying that. Yo, he's definitely gay. Like, I don't even know why he was on that show. Just to be on the show type of shit.

[Damaris]

I don't know if yomi ever experienced this, but, like, one of my high school crushes came out as gay.

[Rory]

Damn. Why you do that to him?

[Mal]

Oh, Just your crush.

[Damaris]

He's a crush.

[Mal]

So y'all never, like, hooked up?

[Damaris]

Oh, I had an ex that. Not an ex, but a ex. Fling that came out as bisexual, too.

[Joe Budden]

Swag.

[Mal]

How do you feel about that?

[Damaris]

I don't. It took me, you know, for a loop when I first found out.

[Joe Budden]

But you being bisexual and that taking you for a loop is crazy.

[Mal]

That's what I was gonna go to. Like, why?

[Damaris]

Because I didn't expect him to be bice. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't see that coming. I didn't.

[Rory]

Because the marriage is homophobic.

[Damaris]

I'm not homophobic.

[Rory]

Well, when it comes to men you're fucking.

[Joe Budden]

That would be like. If I found out somebody was straight, I'd be like, yeah, yeah. How are they doing that?

[Damaris]

No, I just didn't see him, you know, taking dick. I didn't.

[Mal]

Like.

[Damaris]

I didn't see that for him.

[Mal]

So he could have been giving it.

[Damaris]

No, he wasn't.

[Joe Budden]

What was the first picture you had in your head once you found out? Since you couldn't picture it before. I know you pictured it.

[Damaris]

I didn't. I didn't picture anything. I opened my eyes and looked directly into the sun. I didn't picture a ass thing.

[Mal]

I looked directly into the sun.

[Joe Budden]

I tried to blind myself.

[Rory]

But did you find out he was by. Because this could have been the thing where he was trying to convince himself he was straight. So maybe you didn't hook up with him while he was hooking up with guys?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't think. I. I don't. I. It was before. It was. He came out maybe five years after we had hooked up.

[Mal]

He came out five years after hooked up. But was he bisexual when y'all were together?

[Damaris]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I really don't. I try not to think about it. Honestly, I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Is that excuse cheating because he was trying to find himself?

[Damaris]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, Just asking.

[Damaris]

No, but nothing.

[Mal]

Like, that's why I see. That's the. The dynamics between men and women and, like, the diff. Like the. The stereo, like, the. The differences between us. Like, because if the marriage came home and found her ex boyfriend, or at the time when I was her boyfriend in bed with another man, you would probably lose your mind. But if you found him in bed with another woman, you would just be upset and it'd be over with. But if it was a man, you would start questioning everything about yourself.

[Damaris]

See, no, I. If I. If it was a girl, I would.

[Mal]

It's a different level of insecurity that it attacks. If it's another woman, it's like, damn, she look, she's cuter than me. She got a better body. If it's another man. Your insecurities goes a whole different way now.

[Damaris]

No, because I know that I didn't turn you gay. Like, you didn't hit this pussy and was like, oh, I'm good.

[Mal]

But what if he did, though?

[Damaris]

Nah, nah.

[Mal]

I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying what if that is what happened? How do you react to that?

[Damaris]

What if we went outside and the sky was purple? I don't know. I can't.

[Mal]

I'll wait for Prince to start doing his number one hit.

[Damaris]

Yeah, talk about shit that could never happen. I mean, we could do that.

[Mal]

I mean, you know, I just think that it's interesting that women, when they find out their boyfriend or ex boyfriend is bisexual or gay, that it does attack a different level of insecurity in a woman.

[Damaris]

Yeah, well, I mean, I can understand what women, they would be like, well, damn, what the fuck did you like about me? Like, what am I? Am I masculine?

[Rory]

Masculine features?

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, damn. Like, do I look like a man? Like, am I built like a man? Like, but if you got to know yourself to know, like, no, I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

I had an X fling that I think I told you guys that is now married to a woman.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was like, you were her beard.

[Rory]

I was a girl.

[Joe Budden]

That's all I said.

[Mal]

You said what?

[Rory]

I was a girl's last crack at a guy.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oh, if you were the last crack. We had no hope.

[Rory]

I turned her all types of gay.

[Mal]

Yeah. We're gonna lose her no matter what.

[Damaris]

I think men have definitely turned women gay before.

[Rory]

I don't think women have turned them gay. There's no turning. It's not like a potion.

[Damaris]

You could be bisexual and then deal with.

[Rory]

Could be a revelation of sorts.

[Damaris]

If I was bisexual and I was on my last straw and I you, I would be gay.

[Mal]

Same if you were bisexual. You are.

[Damaris]

If. Okay, yeah. And then I was like about to give up our men and then I ran into a Julian and was like, God, if men are for me, like, show me a sign. And then Julian was my sign. No, I'll be carpet munching to the end of my days.

[Mal]

Damn, that's hate. That's tough.

[Rory]

That's a lot of hate.

[Mal]

It's tough to hear. How do you feel?

[Rory]

I don't know, Julia, you're off. It's like 2:00 on a Thursday. Like, what are we doing now? What is this? Just trying to hang out. If I you, I'd be gay now. Wait, what? How was lunch?

[Mal]

How's lunch? Jesus.

[Joe Budden]

I had another ex in college that went to a girl after me. And that was like, before bisexual was, like, popping away. It wasn't trendy. That threw me for a little bit of a loop.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know how to feel. I still don't know how to feel about the girl that's now married to a woman. I didn't see the signs. And bisexual was kind of popping by then, and she never said anything, so. Yeah, it was a little. I was a little confused.

[Mal]

Getting hit on as a heterosexual man by another man is definitely one of the, like, most awkward things ever to happen.

[Damaris]

How do you handle that moment? I feel like you would be smooth, like, you still be charming.

[Mal]

I remember I would still be charming.

[Joe Budden]

I agree. I agree with her.

[Mal]

So you were her. All right, cool. It happened to me one time. I was walking. I was down. I was in the city somewhere, and I'm walking the street and, like, I'm going this way. And a group of people was coming this way, like, crossing the street. And some guy, like, basically, like, cat called me or some shit.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I turned, I looked at him. I was like. I stopped walking. I was like, you know that. That's why I laughed at that under live shit with the dude went on the. He didn't know he was going on a date with the dude that kept asking to go have some drinks with him.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

He's like, bro, I will unalive you. Like, when I stopped walking and I looked at homie, that was the look I gave him like. Like, fam, we not. We're not gonna do this in the middle of Manhattan. Like, don't do that. Don't. Don't notice. But in a weird way, it's like, all right, I guess a gay nigga thinks I'm attractive. Like, okay, you can't be mad at that.

[Damaris]

You was flowing, like.

[Mal]

But it's. I look good, but it's disrespectful because it's like, yo, like, but I'm not gay because I'm not gay.

[Damaris]

Well, how would he know that you're not gay?

[Mal]

That's why you don't cat call another man.

[Damaris]

Like, well, how then. How would they ever find anyone?

[Mal]

I don't know how. How they find other gay. Go to the same bars and clubs them Be at.

[Joe Budden]

Cat calling is okay if gay men do it, but straight men can. No, I don't think anyone should cat call.

[Damaris]

I mean, cat calling is. I actually am. I'm one of those people who don't think that cat calling is that bad, because it's up to me to respond or not. Don't harass me when I don't respond.

[Joe Budden]

See how it can make people feel scared, though, if you by yourself and there four dudes chilling. Cat calling.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, no, of course, of course, of course.

[Mal]

But what kind of cat calling, though?

[Damaris]

Yes, another thing.

[Mal]

Because I've seen some dudes OD before.

[Joe Budden]

I've. I've seen.

[Mal]

And it's like, your family, y'all can't think that that's gonna work.

[Damaris]

When I was living in Brooklyn, it was bad.

[Rory]

You guys never been, like, not. I don't just call, like. I guess it's assault, but, like, physically assaulted, like, in a flirtatious way. From a guy. From a gay guy.

[Mal]

Hell no.

[Rory]

Like, they grab your ass.

[Mal]

I would not be sitting here talking to you if a man grabbed my ass and grabbed.

[Joe Budden]

I don't like. I don't like when women do it.

[Rory]

I'm talking about, like, at, like, if you go out. I'm not talking about, like, I'm in the, like, walking around Manhattan and some guy across the street grabs my dick and scurries away. Like, I'm. I mean, like, at a. At a club or at a. A function, and it's, like, packed. Like, you're kind of, you know, face to face with people. You're with your friends, girls, whatever. Everyone's around, and you're going, like, say you're going from the dance floor to the bar, and you're shuffling, and you're, like, doing the, like, side scoot, and you just feel like your ass get palmed. You, like, turn around, and I'm like, well, that wasn't my home girl. And then you look up and there's some dude and was like. I'm like, f. Nah. Like, you. I do like that. Nah, we not doing that.

[Mal]

Oh, so you was.

[Rory]

That's happened to me a few times.

[Mal]

Somebody's grabbed your ass.

[Joe Budden]

Homeboy gave you a wedgie in the club, and you just.

[Rory]

Not a wedgie. See, why you got to say wedgie?

[Joe Budden]

No palm that ass.

[Rory]

No, he.

[Mal]

He palmed your ass and smelled his hand, probably.

[Damaris]

Sorry. Sorry, Julian.

[Rory]

No, but anyway, that's happened.

[Mal]

He said, oh, he's an old Spice guy.

[Joe Budden]

Grabbed you right at the cuff.

[Damaris]

He stiffed your seat.

[Mal]

I Would have aired that whole spot out.

[Rory]

That's never been happened. You've never been, like, touched or anything?

[Mal]

Hell, no.

[Joe Budden]

Just by women. And I. I found that uncomfortable.

[Rory]

I always just like, Chad. I'm just like, fan. I'm like, that's not just.

[Joe Budden]

I would hit a guy if he did that.

[Rory]

I'll give him the warning. I was like, no, there's no. Say no.

[Mal]

No, there's no way.

[Rory]

If you. If you just. Or do it again.

[Mal]

Julian said. I said, no.

[Joe Budden]

If a man pawned my ass.

[Damaris]

Well, Julian, I said, no.

[Rory]

No, because that would look bad. If I just turn around and snuff a guy. He's a gay guy. It's like, oh, because that's.

[Damaris]

No, because that's. That's a. So I'm a woman, and if a man grabs my ass or grabs a part of me.

[Mal]

Once somebody touches you, you have free range to do whatever you want.

[Rory]

I've like, done like a shot.

[Mal]

I don't.

[Rory]

I just never, like, got groped. And first of all, this isn't happening like, all the time.

[Mal]

I'm about to say you sound like you go there every Thursday.

[Joe Budden]

What bar you go to?

[Mal]

Yeah, they know you in?

[Joe Budden]

I think it's okay in there. It's like.

[Mal]

It's weird.

[Rory]

It's a bar, Steel Rod, that I keep getting.

[Mal]

Steel Rod. That's the name of the bar. This going to a spot named Yo Rel. He hanging out at a spot named Steel Rod, and he. He's wondering why is grabbing his ass. You had to steal Rod. Yeah, that's what they doing. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

They don't pat you down, they smack your ass.

[Mal]

The Steel Rod. And you wonder why they grabbing your buns. You in the Steel Rod. That's part of saying hello in there. The Steel Rod.

[Joe Budden]

You asked for a drink. What you. What you drinking?

[Mal]

He thought she was the bartender. Yo, another round. He grabbed your ass. Yo, the Steel Rod is a nasty place to be in. Are you kidding me? The Steel Rod.

[Joe Budden]

Every Thursday.

[Mal]

Yo, any of my homies about. Yo, we're going to the Steel Rod. Not me. We gotta go to a more feminine name place.

[Rory]

I didn't say for all you homophobe. That was a joke. That place doesn't exist. That was for laughs.

[Mal]

Oh, man.

[Rory]

Although. Although know, I seem to have fallen into this routine of hosting at the spot called the Dingling, which probably doesn't look much better on paper. No, but it's a little better hosted.

[Mal]

At a spot called the Dingling.

[Rory]

I had the marriage lit there. What was that two weekends.

[Mal]

That's worse than the steel rod dingling.

[Rory]

I'm hosting there tonight.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, at least it's a steel rod you are.

[Rory]

All right. See, don't do that today.

[Mal]

Ready to go. The Dingling is the pregame. Yeah, that's the pregame spot. The Dingling still rid when you ready to go home.

[Joe Budden]

You don't want to be caught on dingling when it's ready to go.

[Mal]

Yeah, Hosting at the Dingling.

[Rory]

Yo, that is crazy tonight.

[Joe Budden]

Anyways, with all that said, we can sh. How many bodies is it if your girl poses on Party Next Door's album cover?

[Mal]

I don't know, but I know that girl right there.

[Damaris]

I want to her.

[Joe Budden]

That's 10 bodies right there.

[Rory]

Do you think PE did that graphic on her back?

[Mal]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

Peach would do much better. My only issue would have inserted himself.

[Damaris]

Inside her on the COVID She's been open.

[Joe Budden]

Opening her walls like it's Peach.

[Rory]

Who's that mole?

[Joe Budden]

My only issue with this album cover that for some reason caused the timeline to go into disarray is that it's a bad photoshop job with the tattoo.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

[Joe Budden]

But other than that, why was everyone so upset about this cover? I think it's a great album cover.

[Damaris]

People were saying, oh, my God, you're so. They were calling him, like, super horny and this. And I'm like, it's really not that bad of an album cover.

[Joe Budden]

I love the stretch. I love everything about this.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's a woman right there.

[Rory]

Stretch marks are so underrated.

[Joe Budden]

I love stretch marks.

[Rory]

Why do women always try to get rid of them?

[Mal]

Same way to try to get rid of us.

[Rory]

They don't know what's good for him.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

God, steel rods.

[Joe Budden]

But yes, for some reason, Party Next Door for album cover had the timeline very upset at him. I don't really get it, but this girl's baby father clearly took to the Internet because you can't keep anything to your fucking self.

[Mal]

Her baby father took to the Internet.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. And went on a whole rant that he found out.

[Mal]

Is that really her baby father, though? Because sometimes dudes do that just to go viral and it's not even.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, and I went to double check. I think it is her baby father. It seemed pretty legit.

[Mal]

So he's upset about this.

[Joe Budden]

He's upset about it. They're not together, but he's upset about it. Also wasn't aware that she had, like, an only fans because, you know, the Internet found this girl immediately.

[Mal]

But what is he upset about you can't see her crack. You can't see like anything.

[Joe Budden]

I mean if you have kids, I feel like that might be a discussion you want to have with your partner.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we wouldn't even know who that is if he didn't say nothing. Yeah, he would have.

[Damaris]

Just shut the fuck up.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody's gonna it's nah these days you.

[Mal]

Think the kids are gonna see parties that party coming like that's mom.

[Joe Budden]

I think somebody 15 years from now when they're trying to make fun of one of their kids, this will be something that'll be easy to find.

[Mal]

Yeah, but nobody would know that that's whoever it is.

[Damaris]

And even if the Internet say that they found her unless she confirms you don.

[Joe Budden]

All right, you guys are making sense in that regard. I'm saying the Internet found her and he found out and didn't even know she had an only fans didn't know like all she's an ex stripper. He was like I knew that.

[Mal]

Who party or the baby?

[Joe Budden]

I don't think party's an extra.

[Mal]

Oh no, he's not going crazy. Who did you. Who you saying found out? The baby father found out that found.

[Joe Budden]

Out that his girl has an only fans. Like once the Internet found this girl, he was privy to a bunch of info about her he didn't even know.

[Damaris]

Are they together?

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Oh, so then ain't your business having only fans.

[Joe Budden]

I agree there, but I don't like you're not going to want your person you're co parenting with to let you know that she might be half ass naked on album cover.

[Damaris]

Well if you're the type of to get on the Internet and tweet about it, then no, I'm not going to tell you any of my business. Yeah, that's what you're that type of so you I can only imagine.

[Mal]

And they're not together.

[Joe Budden]

Never go to the Internet with this. But I would like to know if someone I was co parenting but they're not together. No.

[Mal]

So she didn't have to tell him.

[Joe Budden]

That they got they got kids.

[Mal]

So what that mean?

[Rory]

I don't know Ma. If someone you were serious with.

[Mal]

If my baby mother posed for a.

[Rory]

That would be with Yeah, I wouldn't give a fuck.

[Joe Budden]

But she wasn't. All right.

[Mal]

It's not my we're not together so I'm gonna be mad if she actually she gets in a relationship. I'm gonna be tight.

[Rory]

Well, it's not a relationship.

[Mal]

No.

[Joe Budden]

She's not in a relationship or party.

[Mal]

No. I'm just. Right. But what I'm saying, I mean, I'm.

[Joe Budden]

Sure he took that photo from his iPhone and was like, this would be a great album cover.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm sure he was there. But you know what he was doing in that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we've all taken very similar photos to that.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Damaris]

Touche.

[Mal]

But I don't care about, like, if that's not my. If we not together, we got a kid. As long like I said, nobody would know who that girl is. If he didn't jump out there and say anything, would nobody?

[Joe Budden]

We could all speculate. Found the girl. And then he reacted to the Internet finding out who it was.

[Mal]

Oh, the Internet. The Internet found the real girl first.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

And then he was like, oh, fuck, that's my baby mother, and decided to get in.

[Damaris]

Hey, guys. Everybody. Hey.

[Mal]

Agree.

[Damaris]

What are you doing?

[Joe Budden]

That was corny. He shouldn't have done any of that. But I can see him being upset. Like, damn, I wish I would have known Julia.

[Mal]

Find a real girl.

[Rory]

I'm trying to find her name. You guys could help.

[Joe Budden]

I don't forgot what it was. I don't even think it was anyone that was like, particularly.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Known or whatever.

[Damaris]

Regular, pretty Instagram girl.

[Mal]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe Budden]

The marriage. You knew. I thought it was when I first.

[Mal]

Saw it, but that was some of your work.

[Joe Budden]

I was a little nervous. Oh, she been in too many OVO videos lately. I got a little scared. I was party too. Keep bringing her up.

[Mal]

Why are you scared? Yo be a scared. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying be being scared. That a girl used to with us in like rappers videos is hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

She's already been in plenty.

[Mal]

That's hilarious. Great album cover. I just hope the music is. Is on par, which I think it will be. I mean, this.

[Joe Budden]

This is party looks like it's gonna be toxic based off the. Yeah, the COVID Yeah, I love the COVID Very excited.

[Damaris]

Do y'all think that party sound might have. And this isn't my opinion. This is a question. That party sound might have aged out if he like, if he comes out sounding like how he used to. Do you think that people might be not tired of that sound, but it might be over?

[Joe Budden]

No, no. What I think is up is so many people copied his sound. His sound now sounds tired. Like it's too many people that have done their best impression of party next door.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Sonically, voice wise, writing, content, everything. Like a lot of these kids now are party's kids for sure. So the only part to your question, I think that could backfire on him is people are sick of the sound that Party created because so many people copied it.

[Mal]

I don't think there's people.

[Joe Budden]

Like, Party's just gonna be himself, and that's his sound, so.

[Mal]

Right. But I don't think people are sick of the sound. I think people are sick of the sound not coming from Parties.

[Joe Budden]

That's fair.

[Mal]

I think that's what it is when it's coming from Party. I mean, if you. Any of The P&D's, that P&D 2 is probably.

[Rory]

The Party mobile is incredible.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, P and D2 to me, is probably the one that's like, the best out of all of them.

[Joe Budden]

It's just. I guess the bad part of being innovative. Like, when Party came out, he didn't sound like anybody else. That's why we love Party. Like, that was a whole new sound.

[Mal]

Oh, no. He birthed the whole world.

[Joe Budden]

And now so, like, damn near everybody that's trying to sing has some part of Party in their catalog. So I could be like, I'm so just so sick of hearing this sound now because everyone else ran it into the ground.

[Mal]

I just want to hear. I want to hear from the originator. Anytime Party is putting out a project, song, anything, I'm. I'm one of those guys that I just. His. His pen and his sound to me is just, like, always a vibe. So I'm with it.

[Rory]

Yeah, I found her Instagram page. Her page is Mammy next door, which.

[Damaris]

We'Re gonna say Mommy.

[Rory]

Oh, man. Oh, it's.

[Damaris]

Well, it's two A's, Ma, not ma'am. Will be two M's, baby.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, you're on my reasoning level now.

[Rory]

Damn, Rory got me wrong.

[Joe Budden]

Amy is crazy.

[Rory]

I don't know. Maybe she's grandma.

[Mal]

Maybe she looks like a grandma.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Now I see why her baby father really felt away. I didn't go to her actual page. I just saw.

[Rory]

Also making your handle next door.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Come on, now.

[Joe Budden]

I get it.

[Rory]

That's a lot.

[Joe Budden]

She must have changed that when the album cover.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she definitely did.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't no way. Her name was. Was Mammy Next Mommy. I don't like Mammy now.

[Damaris]

Calling her Mammy. That ain't no mommy.

[Mal]

Please.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, is there a bet? Is there a bad thing there?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Oh, her.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know my daughter thought Mammy.

[Rory]

Was like Grandma or some aunt Jimmy.

[Mal]

Yeah, there you go. Same thing.

[Rory]

Her kid is very cute.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, see, that's. See, that's where my. Come on, you Gotta consult with me if you're gonna put your ass.

[Mal]

Just be mad that a girl moved on, man. Just let that girl go live her.

[Joe Budden]

Life, man, if I'm already. And again, I don't know if she's a stripper. We're going off.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

Her baby father said she's a model.

[Mal]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

So she modeled without clothes on, and I met her that way. Relationship broke up, had kids, whatever. I'm already fine with her body being exposed to the world, but on an album cover, I think it's just a little different.

[Rory]

Wait, how did her baby father not know she had only fans when it's in her bio?

[Joe Budden]

I think, like her IG name. Things changed when that album cover came out.

[Rory]

True.

[Mal]

Oh, I think he's just stupid and that's why she's not with him no more.

[Joe Budden]

That could be it as well, sometimes, dudes, or. All right, what if he did just move on and wasn't privy to all this?

[Mal]

Yeah, but like I said, we wouldn't know who that girl was if he didn't jump out there and say something like, all right, that's your baby mother. We. We didn't know that.

[Joe Budden]

Staying on music. Metro Boomin came out and said that his phone was hacked. This might be the first my phone was hacked that I actually kind of believe.

[Rory]

Boo.

[Joe Budden]

Does that make me pussy?

[Mal]

When was the phone hacked, though?

[Rory]

That was the moment the album came.

[Joe Budden]

Out, according to Metro. He said, yeah, the day the album came out, there was a bunch of tweets. I didn't see these quote unquote, corny tweets. But Metro's like, not in my algorithms. I don't follow him, so I don't get all his tweets on Twitter. On Twitter?

[Mal]

Yeah, I follow him on Twitter. I didn't see. But then again, I don't really be.

[Joe Budden]

Reading much on Twitter, so I'm not sure what those. Those corny tweets were, quote, unquote. He said he went back and deleted them, but then went on to prove which. All right, even if his phone wasn't hacked, I appreciated that he at least tried to make us believe it was hacked instead of rappers that just tweet crazy things and then go, yo, my phone was hacked, and then move on with their lives. He showed us that a Toronto number had called him, like, a hundred times the day before the album or the day of the album. A bunch of different 416s. He had to put his phone on airplane mode. Then he started getting emails from, like, some of his like fashion reps, I guess. People from Balenciaga. I forgot. I think it was from Louis Vuitton. That was like, hey, just double checking on all this you ordered. He was like, what are you talking about? And then they sent him screenshots of his text messages where he was hitting up people at Balenciaga for Chanel bags, which is hilarious. And they were sending everything to Houston.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

He sent photos of like, some crazy ass boots. He was like, you think I'm buying these boots? I actually believe his phone was maybe hacked.

[Rory]

Okay, but what about this tweet? Because he said this was one of the tweets that was not his, that he's now claiming was not sent by him. And this was from December 2nd, when her loss was getting the all.

[Joe Budden]

I remember. I don't think he was referring to this tweet being, but this is one.

[Rory]

Of the ones he has since deleted and said this was caught up in that.

[Joe Budden]

He deleted this before this happened. This was last.

[Mal]

This wasn't. No, that wasn't.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, that's old. That's old again. Yeah, I don't know what those. Those tweets were that were so crazy.

[Mal]

But yeah, I didn't see them. I don't know exactly what tweets he's referring to, but, I mean, it's not impossible that he was hacked. I mean, people get accounts get hacked all the time.

[Joe Budden]

Are we not gonna pretend like Drake didn't have all those bots attacking you anytime you tweeted Pusha T's name? For a long time, Drake has gotten on his. His ip like gangster shit.

[Mal]

That's how the rappers beef now. Yeah, send a whole bunch of bots in your mentions.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, look, half of why Drake killed Meek was based off memes. Even at the OVO fest, his entire creative set was him just playing the memes.

[Mal]

I mean, I think that's part of it now, obviously, because we. Everybody's on social media, so there has to be a way where you can kind of like disrupt somebody that you're beefing with, disrupt their algorithm. And look at how we're being page.

[Joe Budden]

A little bit as a country. We're not like worried about nuclear war the same way we are as cyber war right now.

[Mal]

Right?

[Joe Budden]

Of course. This is happening within hip hop. So, yeah, I think there's a world the same way Drake did it with Push to some degree that if he has an issue with Metro. Someone is trying to hack your icloud. If someone keeps trying to hack my icloud, I'm sure Metro Boomin's icloud is being hacked.

[Mal]

But see, here's the whack part about this. Not saying it's not true. He wasn't hacked and he's old Toronto numbers, but there is a pretty good chance that Drake had nothing to do with that. These are just super fans doing shit.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, for sure.

[Mal]

And that's a lot of times where it's fucked up on the artist because it falls on the artist. Like, oh, you had somebody hack me or you sent a bunch of bots into my. Yeah, you know, and it's like, no, I just have fans that some of them are tech savvy and this is what they do for a living. And they decided to fucking run down on your page and disrupt your whole flow, like. But the artist gets blamed for that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's a fact.

[Mal]

When a lot of times it's just people in my fan base are tech savvy nerds that are capable of doing this type of shit.

[Rory]

Well, here's my pushback. I'll give say. Fine, he was hacked. Then he tweeted this. And he tweeted this.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Rory]

I look like subbing a savage? And we were on this phone for an hour two days ago. I'm assuming he's referring to Drake.

[Joe Budden]

No, he's talking about 21 Savage.

[Mal]

What? I look like subbing Savage?

[Rory]

I thought he meant a savage like, a savage like Drake.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Okay, but there's still. Aren't there some. Wait, never mind.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Rory]

I don't know. You saw a league.

[Mal]

Stay out of the steel ride.

[Joe Budden]

My friend wants Drake to palm that ass.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, you got to stay out of the still.

[Rory]

Right, but even. I mean, I guess I. I guess.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know about 21 Savage.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, no, this is. Yeah, I misread that. But were there subs on 21 on this album? No, no.

[Joe Budden]

But I guess maybe there was tweets.

[Damaris]

The tweets is what he's referring subs.

[Mal]

To 21 on him and 21. They with each other albums together.

[Joe Budden]

Shit, that's probably half the beef between Future and Everybody is Metro and 21 are the only ones that are like, in the middle on a lot of shit. Yeah, but yeah, this was funny.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's funny. Fuck it, man. People, your fan bases are fucking up your algorithms and your page. Listen, it's part of the game, man. It's part of the sport.

[Joe Budden]

I would just be tight that someone ordered those boots.

[Mal]

Yeah, just don't send a bunch of that bullshit to my House. That's where it'll be like, this is offline now. Now I got bullshit ass boots and Balenciaga hoodies showing up to my crib that I didn't order. Like, that's when.

[Joe Budden]

Look at those boots, man.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, nah, not wearing those.

[Joe Budden]

But also, can you think of like the. The guy that's tech savvy that would be ordering those boots? Like the hacker. That's what the hacker's wearing in Houston.

[Mal]

It probably just went on the website. It was like, order everything, one of everything, send it to his house.

[Joe Budden]

That, I mean. Yeah, that's how you know it's definitely a hacker. No taste, they're just there to.

[Rory]

Have you guys been.

[Joe Budden]

What's the most expensive thing I can find on your bed?

[Mal]

Hacked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been act before.

[Joe Budden]

I've definitely been hacked, but not really hacked.

[Mal]

Like it's what we used to call hack. You put your phone down, your phone isn't locked.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I've been like legit. Had my icloud hacked before.

[Mal]

Oh, no, you know, see, I don't have icloud.

[Joe Budden]

You don't have icloud. You have an iPhone.

[Rory]

I never understood you have to have an icloud.

[Mal]

No, you don't.

[Joe Budden]

So you saved everything's to your actual.

[Mal]

I have a laptop hard drive of the phone.

[Damaris]

So when you download apps, they just. They don't ask you for your icloud information to download that you have to be on.

[Joe Budden]

Like your Apple id, I think is just connected to an icloud no matter what.

[Rory]

Like they force you to the icloud.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm going to get a flip phone.

[Joe Budden]

I'm with you.

[Mal]

That's where I'm at.

[Joe Budden]

Except when you really need to text someone. I don't know how good a T9 I really would be.

[Mal]

No, I mean, it's different now because it's still touch screen on the flip phones.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I guess that's true. You're saying the new flip. I thought it's about like just the old.

[Mal]

Oh, those don't joint. You can't get that. Those don't.

[Joe Budden]

Those don't connect to the. The world.

[Mal]

No, man.

[Joe Budden]

They probably come on every. Every spot.

[Mal]

Let me let you know, tell me when you connect to somebody's phone.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

That don't work.

[Joe Budden]

Every war movie I see, whenever they're like in the Iraqi town, all the Iraqi guys have old jeeps in the flip phones. It's got to connect to some satellite.

[Mal]

Well, that's a satellite.

[Joe Budden]

Saddam's satellite. Yeah, that he still has.

[Mal]

I'm just talking about a regular, like, boost mobile that ain't connecting to. It's over.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, but then I guess what's the point of a flip phone if they do have the touchscreen? Might as well just get an iPhone. Then I would like the flip phone because you can't text me. Like, you just have to call and I can just leave it.

[Mal]

What are the new blackberries looking like? What's the latest BlackBerry? Because I've been saying I want a BlackBerry for a while and I don't know what the latest look like.

[Rory]

IPhones.

[Damaris]

If you find my BlackBerry with the side scroll, sodom up, that's it.

[Mal]

I know you don't. You know I'm cool. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It's just the iPhone.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm cool.

[Joe Budden]

IPhone with green text messages with a keypad every year.

[Damaris]

Like, there's really a Samsung community, like, real ass. But their phones take such beautiful pictures. But it doesn't matter because when we look at them on our iPhone, they look like shit.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, so the resolution doesn't even convert no iPhone?

[Damaris]

No, they take beautiful, beautiful pictures, but it just doesn't.

[Mal]

That's because Samsung, they started with cameras before they had phones. So, I mean, of course their camera's gonna be amazing video, too.

[Joe Budden]

IPhones are stuck. That's such a petty thing and such a genius thing. It's great marketing to make the bubbles go green and not like a cool green. A green that looks disgusting to our eyes. Like, we don't want to text this person. And then we can't even convert the Samsung galaxy images to our phones. That's fucking hilarious.

[Mal]

Yeah, we don't want that shit over here.

[Damaris]

We can look at them. It just doesn't look like. It looks like the resolution is shitty. Yeah, it's so bad.

[Joe Budden]

That's hilarious. Well, a few more topics before we get to voicemails. GDEP free. Welcome home, G D. Why they let him go?

[Mal]

Why they let him go? Yeah, why they let him out of jail? Yeah, his prison time was over.

[Joe Budden]

He had 15 to life.

[Damaris]

He had, like, one of those compassionate presidents.

[Mal]

You know what to life means.

[Joe Budden]

To life.

[Mal]

It's the max.

[Joe Budden]

All right, So, I mean, 13.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So they gave him the minimum. I mean, I guess I think it was noble what he did. Noble, but, like, I don't. I don't know. I mean, you still murdered somebody. It wasn't like premeditated murder. I'm not saying he should have gotten life, but 13 years. Yeah, I mean, his conscience Is clear he made the right decision.

[Damaris]

He was released under the prison's limited credit time allowance program, which allows eligible inmates a six month credit on their existing sentences.

[Rory]

I mean, six months isn't.

[Damaris]

I mean.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

So he still did it. Yeah, I guess he still did his time.

[Mal]

Yeah, his time served. I mean, he'd probably be on probation for a few months.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, man, if I find out years, years down the line that a robbery I did ended up with somebody dead, I don't know if I would have turned myself in. I commend him for that.

[Mal]

I don't know if I commend him for that, but I mean, I kill.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody and nobody for turning himself in. I don't know if I accidentally murdered somebody and didn't even realize it for years and then found out later like, damn, that dude died like 15 years later. I don't know if I'm running to the. The precinct to turn myself.

[Mal]

I'm definitely not running to the precinct, turn myself. I'm not gonna help y'all do your job because essentially the detectives didn't do their job. They didn't solve at all. I'm not gonna solve it for you.

[Joe Budden]

But, I mean, I guess it's up because it was like a civilian and.

[Mal]

Like, I get it, man. But I think.

[Joe Budden]

I think that that guy had kids, too. Like, I could see why, Especially since gdep changed his life. It was eating him. It was eating away at him.

[Mal]

But, yeah, his moral compass was, you know, with him. And I understand that. But it's gonna be hard for me to be like, hey, you know that thing that y'all can't solve? It was me.

[Damaris]

Well, TMZ is saying that 15, 13 years.

[Joe Budden]

Do you think his family found peace because GDEP did 13 years?

[Mal]

No.

[Joe Budden]

@ all.

[Mal]

That doesn't help.

[Damaris]

They're saying his rap career stalled. And after his wife claimed he fell into a drug induced stupor, and that led to him walking into a police precinct in 2010 and confirmed confessing.

[Joe Budden]

That was the defense. I remember that was what they were trying to say, that he was high when he. When he walked in and he had nothing to do with it or whatever. But, I mean, have you guys listened to G Depp's music?

[Mal]

Oh, outside of the hits, he has one of the best albums on Bad Boy.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, first, that first album is crazy.

[Mal]

Without a doubt, one of the most.

[Joe Budden]

Depressing records I've ever heard in my life. What was it? Every day I'm terrible. He's been talking about his drug addiction for Years. It wasn't. It wasn't just Harlem shaking is what I'm saying. GF has a lot of layers to.

[Mal]

His career and has. To me. That album was a classic.

[Joe Budden]

It's a really, really good album.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's like Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment. There's some nerds out there that'll get that reference.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't get it at all.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What do you say?

[Joe Budden]

I have Dos Equis. The most interesting man in the world. G. Depp is what he was trying to say.

[Rory]

It's a. It's a Russian. It's a long. It's a novel. It's a Russian book about the gentleman kill. It's Crime and Punishment. The man kills someone in, like, the first four pages of the book. And the whole book is him living with that guilt, and it eats him up, and you're just. It's the psycho. It's the psyche and unraveling of someone that can't live with their, you know, mistake and guilt.

[Mal]

I like that way of explaining it better than just drop the title.

[Rory]

Just name it, you know.

[Damaris]

Well, it's a. It's a very well known book.

[Joe Budden]

Obviously not no Harry Potter.

[Damaris]

My bad.

[Mal]

There's no Harry Potter.

[Joe Budden]

Most famous book.

[Rory]

There's literally no Harry. There's no other.

[Mal]

No Harry Potter.

[Joe Budden]

Angel Reese. Press conference. We watched the game as a family in the group chat. Well, shout out to Iowa.

[Mal]

Congrats to Iowa. Congrats to UConn advancing to the Final Four. LSU had a great year. Shout out to Angel Reese. She had a great year. I don't think she'll be. I don't think she'll come back for a senior year. I think she's done.

[Joe Budden]

She announced.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she announced.

[Mal]

She announced she's going to league. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, she's great. College career, already making a. A lot of money.

[Joe Budden]

Was it a charge?

[Mal]

No. Bad call. That was a bad call.

[Joe Budden]

I thought it was a bad call, too. And there was some momentum. I'm not saying Iowa was kicking their ass for, like, second half of that game.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but there was some momentum.

[Joe Budden]

There was some. There was, like, a bit of a momentum shift.

[Mal]

Even if it wasn't. That's just the. It was the wrong call. I don't care if it was momentum or not. That was the wrong call. That wasn't. That wasn't an offensive foul. It was a bad call. But shout out to lsu. Shout out to Angel Reese. I think she's gonna go on to be a star in the wnba. Has A bright, bright future ahead of her. And a press conference was a lot of people talking about it because she, you know, she started talking about things and things she was. Has been dealing with since winning the national championship. She said she hasn't been happy, which is crazy to hear athletes say that. But a lot of things have changed. People have, you know, challenged her on a lot of things and have, you know, kind of written her as this, you know, girl that has this bad attitude and, you know, all of these other things that they like to place on black women. Any confident woman, any woman that has confidence in what she's doing or has a, you know, kind of an edge to what she's doing, but at the end of the day, just as an athlete, as a somebody that has elevated women's college basketball, I think she did a great job at lsu. And, you know, she's going. She's going to be one of those pros that we hear about for a while. So. Shout out to Angel Reese.

[Joe Budden]

I saw everyone saying, how could you be upset saying you're the villain when you made yourself the villain? I don't really remember when Angel Reese made herself the villain. That was the biggest reply to that entire thing. Don't cry now. You made yourself the villain. Don't be mad when people make you out to be what you were trying to be.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's. Again, that's people just getting it wrong anytime, male or female, because we've seen it happen to men, too. But more so when a woman plays a sport and she has an edge and some type of attitude to her and put that on top of the fact that she's a black woman. You know, people find a way to kind of villainize this. This person and know she's a bad person. She has a bad attitude. She has to work on her attitude. She has to. No, she doesn't. She has to go out there and keep playing and doing exactly what she's been doing. Dominate whenever she steps on the floor and put her team in the best position to win. And she's done that in her career at lsu. So, you know, all of that other shit is just noise. It's a distraction. It's something to take away from the fact that she dominated even that game. I think she finished with 17 points, 20 rebounds. Something crazy like she had a great game. And I think that's what matters most. All of the other shit that blogs and news media outlets are gonna write, that's just distractions. Angel Reese has had an amazing, amazing college career. And again, she lifted the platform of women's college basketball to a new level. So shout out to her, how do.

[Joe Budden]

You defend Caitlin Clark?

[Mal]

How do you defend her?

[Rory]

My girl Paige. Got it.

[Mal]

I think the best way. I think the best way to defend a player like Caitlin Clark is Fowler shooter. Try to interfere. You have to be suplex her at half. You have to go at her on the other end. You have to make her work defensively. I think that's the only way. Yeah, that's the only way. You just, like, with a Steph Curry, like, you're not gonna stop them from shooting and getting open shots and scoring the ball, but when you make them work on the defensive end, it kind of wears their legs down a little bit. They may pick up some fouls and have to get pulled out of the game.

[Rory]

Kaylin's good at defense.

[Mal]

No, she is, but that's what I'm saying. You have to go at her, though. That's. You're not gonna stop her.

[Joe Budden]

Haley was Gardner, but at one point she was just like, what do you.

[Mal]

Want me to do?

[Rory]

She's undersized.

[Mal]

Yeah, she's undersized. She's not big enough again. But if you go at Caitlyn on the other end and make her work and if she pick up a file, two quick fouls and she has to go sit, that kind of changes the trajectory of the game a lot. But that's the only way. Kaylin Clark is a once in a generation type of athlete. You're not going to stop her. She's going to get her shot, she's going to score. But I think the way that UConn can kind of like offset that is Paige is going to have to go right at it.

[Rory]

I'm taking UConn. I need UConn again.

[Mal]

I don't know, man. I think Iowa wins it all. I had USC winning. Shout out to juju. Really?

[Rory]

Iowa over South Carolina.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. I'm going Iowa.

[Rory]

All right.

[Mal]

I'm going Iowa. Shout out to usc, though. Shout out to juju. Had a great year as a freshman. Again, another athlete that has lifted women's college basketball.

[Damaris]

She's only a freshman. I didn't know that.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, she's a freshman. They got to get her to ball more, though, man. I know it sounds crazy because she gets the ball and she scores a lot, but like, that game I was looking at, like, down the stretch, she was supposed to get the ball every single time.

[Rory]

Yeah. And I think she maybe not a nerves thing by any means, because she doesn't show any signs of that, but I think she's still, like. She's. Maybe it's like that level of, like, okay, I'm still in lamest terms, like, I'm a freshman. Let me facilitate. Even though it's like, the biggest stage, and at that point, it doesn't matter. I think sophomore year, going into it, like, it's her. Like, she proved it. This was her. Like, here's my claim year. Yeah, get the fuck out my way.

[Mal]

She's gonna. She's. I mean, to do what she did as a freshman is crazy.

[Rory]

She averaged second most points a game to Caitlin as a freshman.

[Mal]

She's. She's. She's an amazing, amazing player. I think. I think just the fact that the team was, you know, a little young, their stars, a freshman, I just think the inexperience on that, you know, I think a lot of those things played into it, but they played a good game. But they just, you know, UConn, they got. They got that. That sixth player on the sideline. Geno, man, it's hard to beat him. He's going to make adjustments. He's going to, you know, figure it out. And I think that's ultimately what it came down to, was that UConn was just better prepared, better coached. But, yeah, shout out to all these girls, man. I think. I think what they doing is dope, bro. Like, I haven't paid attention to women's college basketball this much in a long time.

[Joe Budden]

It's been a minute.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, in a very long time. So the fact that these players are, you know, having these exciting games and doing the things that they're doing, it's been fun to watch. So shout out to all of these. All of these women.

[Rory]

This UConn Iowa game is going to be tonight, right? No, Friday. Well, tonight. Yeah. If you're listening.

[Joe Budden]

But as a connoisseur of the whites, how do you feel about Haley?

[Rory]

Haley's pretty.

[Joe Budden]

Little too spicy for you or.

[Rory]

Nah, nah. She's like the you of white women.

[Joe Budden]

Because she got her hair braided and.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Hung out with angels.

[Rory]

She hangs out with only blacks. You know, twerking in the locker room. Haley's dope. She's gonna have a great career, too.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The cool. You're seeing all this new stuff that's coming out now about, like, Caitlyn will always, of course, like, most women did at that point, wanted to go to UConn, but she never got recruited.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So this is like, you know, this was a big. This this game has, like, so much. The storyline. This is so much better than the men's tournament. I'm very excited for tomorrow.

[Mal]

There's a real chance that the UConn Women and Men's team can win it this year.

[Rory]

The men are definitely a favorite.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I think UConn is. Now that they made it to the. Because I thought USC was going to beat them, but now that they've made it to the Final Four, I mean, I could see them. They have a shot again. Geno on the sideline, bro. UConn women's team is going to always have a shot. As long as he's coaching.

[Joe Budden]

As long as a man is in charge. Right.

[Mal]

Well, I mean, I didn't want to say it like that, but, you know, as long as the man is at the.

[Rory]

At the helm, as long as he's.

[Mal]

Controlling that ship, man, you know, they. They gonna be all right.

[Damaris]

Are you guys gonna follow players like Caitlin and Angel into the wnba?

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

Yeah. I want to see what they do at that next level, for sure. Definitely. I mean, Caitlin, you know, I think what she's gonna be able to go and do in the WNBA is, again, the way she's elevated women's college basketball, I think she's gonna elevate the WNBA to another level as well. You have those players that, you know, they just have that. That following, and they have that. They have the game to match it, though. Like, a lot of women, you know, a lot of players have a following, but sometimes it's like, yeah, it didn't translate. Caitlin Clark's game is going to translate to the next level, like, almost right away.

[Joe Budden]

And that's what's so great about how much attention has been on this tournament and last year's tournament. People are going to continue to follow them into the league, and it'll be better for the wnba.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Because I. I'm definitely not missing Angel, Reese or Caitlin Clark game in the league. Like, wouldn't you want to watch that?

[Mal]

And I was wrong about the. The big three. It does. The big three is during WNBA season.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So that's why I was like, take that five mil. Some conflict. Like. Yeah, like, if you're gonna take it or not.

[Joe Budden]

Eight games.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's only, like, a few games. I think it's like a month or something like that, maybe.

[Joe Budden]

What are the rules with games with wnba? If, like, I don't get drafted, could I not sign with the team halfway through the season?

[Mal]

Nah, you gotta. You gotta fulfill all of your WNBA duties and then you can go. You're free to go. Sign with another team for the off season.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

So they can't have a free agent just come in halfway through. Damn.

[Rory]

Kaylin can't, like, defer the draft, do the big three, and then come in.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think I'm taking that five million.

[Rory]

Yeah. For real.

[Joe Budden]

Eight games with Ice Cube taking that five.

[Mal]

I'll see y'all in a month.

[Damaris]

But, I mean, if you're passionate about women's basketball, why not go into the wnba, get your endorsements? She can make that money off endorsements.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, she definitely.

[Mal]

Definitely.

[Joe Budden]

We are joking around. The better move is to be drafted number one. Wnba, get your endorsements first game. Whoever you get drafted to, for sure she's gonna make. She's the number more than $5 million. But, yeah, that just. It just says something about her talent. That Ice Cube was like, yo, I'll give you five mil for eight games.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Rory]

Indiana holds that number one pick, by the way. So she looks like she's staying in the Midwest.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she gives Indiana vibes.

[Mal]

She's a. But that's who she is. Like, she doesn't need to be in a. Like a.

[Rory]

Well, she's from Iowa. Like, this is her. The story.

[Mal]

She doesn't need to be, like, in a big market like New York or LA or, you know, she definitely don't need to be in Vegas. So it's like, you know, just. That's. That fits her. It'd be great.

[Joe Budden]

But do you think that, like, do the markets. Of course the markets matter with the wnba, but have we seen them really shift anything?

[Mal]

The markets?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Like, I. I don't know. The Sparks in the Liberty, are they that much better when it comes to income? Like, I went to. I went to the Staples center to watch the Sparks. Like, it wasn't. Like, it was. The way the Staples center and Garden are sold out. No matter who's playing, how bad the team is, no matter what is going on, that shit is sold out because of the market and the stadium. Is it the same way with the wnba?

[Mal]

I don't think it's. It's the same, but I do think that it's on their level. I think that is because I'm not comparing a New York Knick to the. Being sold out to the New York Liberty. Like, it's not all the Sparks to the Lakers. You might have a fight for the wnba. Yeah, they. They. They definitely profit. Probably have more attendance than any other city.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you might be better In a smaller market.

[Mal]

Oh, I think it's perfect for. Yeah, I think it's perfect for.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, because.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, there's less to do. Like, you could be the star and.

[Mal]

If you didn't go, it is like, right away and win. It's like, it's not as magnified because you're in a smaller market.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You have a couple bad games. You have a couple bad games with the Liberty. Oh, she's a bust. She shouldn't have been in that one picture. She just had three bad games. That's it. Like, there's a whole season left. But, you know, though, I will say.

[Joe Budden]

Seeing her go to, like, a Liberty or something would be kind of crazy.

[Rory]

Because she'd be playing with Sabrina and Brianna Stewart. If.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying, having Caitlin Clark in New York City playing at the Garden, like, those tickets are going to go.

[Mal]

It'll make up for when the Knicks didn't draft Steph.

[Joe Budden]

If Brunson has one bad game, they'll probably say, we should put Caitlin Clark in there. Yeah, that's how those markets work.

[Mal]

Shout out to the Knicks man, Prince Julius Randle. He announced that he has season endurance. Show the surgery. Shout out to my guy, Julius. I knew for a couple weeks, he told me, but I obviously couldn't say that. But.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but I saw it was officially.

[Mal]

Yeah. So now it's official.

[Joe Budden]

Nick, he has probably bad timing. He has a crazy sketchers. Com ad in the train right now.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Mal]

On the subway?

[Joe Budden]

Yes. I saw it on the way here. I was like, who?

[Mal]

All right, man. You doing a jab step?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's bad. I was like, who approved this?

[Mal]

Yeah, but. Yeah, the Knicks. Knicks fans just.

[Joe Budden]

It was definitely from this shoot. That wasn't the photo. But it was from this shoot for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah. Knicks fans just kind of.

[Rory]

He does not play in Skechers, does he?

[Mal]

Yeah. Well, this year. This was his first year.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, they don't make bad quality shoes.

[Mal]

I mean, when they give you the bag that they gave them.

[Rory]

No. Yeah, I throw them on.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no. If he.

[Mal]

I go hooping, these don't trip how much I pay.

[Joe Budden]

He covered the entire A Train ads today.

[Mal]

Yeah. Definitely going. Definitely putting those on. If they giving you that bag. I think Joel Embiid with sketches, too.

[Joe Budden]

I believe it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, Steph did it with Under Armour and they were extremely profitable.

[Mal]

That's tough for the Knicks, man. Cause this definitely looked like a year that the Knicks was going to probably get to, like, the conference finals. No, but this year like, yeah, we're.

[Rory]

Not playing well right now, to be honest. We lost three in a row. Two very close games in our last two. That have been embarrassing. I've been annoyed as I think that if they get.

[Mal]

Mitchell Robinson is back.

[Rory]

Yep. He's playing well.

[Mal]

Is OG back? OG's back, right.

[Rory]

He missed last game. Jalen played awful last game. Like, the last game is. If that's where we're going into the playoffs, if that's indicative of what we got.

[Joe Budden]

It's just resting. Just get some rest.

[Rory]

So they don't rest. Tibbs is like, bro, play to the hundredth minute. Yeah, sit these guys. Yeah.

[Mal]

I see some people on once. Julius and that announced them that he was out. I see some people saying, you should. Tibbs shouldn't even had you in the fucking game at that point. The team was up. I'm just like, listen, man, shit happens. But, you know, next year, the Knicks look good, man.

[Rory]

You know, like, every year, Tibbs get voted by the players, the least. The coach they like to play for, at least, probably.

[Joe Budden]

But he's had the best results that I've.

[Mal]

That's what I'm about to say. It's hard to say that when his team is winning and he has them in the position that he has them in. Like, it's hard to say, you know, he's not like. But it's like, he's getting results, so you can't argue with the results.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But either way, Knicks will be back next year. Julius will be back. Hopefully a healthy season and, I don't know, Knicks fans, Knicks Nation, y'all look like y'all about a year or two away from conference finals, y'all.

[Rory]

You're not including yourself in that.

[Mal]

I want to see the Knicks go to the conference finals. I do.

[Damaris]

I'm not a Knicks fan.

[Mal]

I'm not a Knicks fan.

[Damaris]

But you're a Lakers fan.

[Mal]

I'm a Lakers fan. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You guys look great.

[Mal]

We suck. Okay, okay.

[Rory]

We got this guy.

[Mal]

Listen, man, we hung. We hung a lot of them up already. It's all right, man. Yeah, I gotta hang my hat on that. We got a lot of them hanging in the rafters. It's okay.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Voicemails.

[Mal]

You've got mail.

[Rory]

Yeah, so we. Remember we asked for a few callbacks, and we have a couple that I'm excited to play. Remember the one guy, that one gentleman that called in and said his mom had him when she was, like, 13 or 12, and the dad was just skipping town, whatever the hell he was up To.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, because he was also a child.

[Rory]

No, he wasn't. He was like.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's right.

[Rory]

He was in his 30s.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Rory]

Yeah. So we got the. The call back, and it's. It's kind of even sicker.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, this one was sick.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Hey, what's good? This is bro calling back. I called a couple months ago to give you that story about, you know, my mom was super young when she had me, and my dad was older than 18 where he had me and that whole dilemma. And so I was calling back to a little more. So from what I know, my dad used to be a carney. So he used to work for, like, the local fair. And so if you know how they get down, it's like they're like, almost on tour. You know what I mean? Every two, three days, they're going to a different. Different city. You know, they're probably girls in different cities and like that. So my dad probably don't even remember getting with my mom. And like, on the flip side, you know.

[Mal]

Wait, your dad doesn't remember?

[Rory]

No. No one gets, like, a carney.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, everyone knows.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Guys to watch out for.

[Rory]

They pull up to Tulsa. What? Like, he made carney sound ill. As.

[Damaris]

I didn't even know my dad played.

[Joe Budden]

Harmonica in the jazz band.

[Rory]

So, yeah, him and the bearded lady.

[Mal]

Had to keep going to keep the. Off of him. Yeah.

[Rory]

All right.

[Caller]

My mom, she was probably just getting into her promiscuity, you know what I mean, and messing around. So she might not even remember who my dad was because she didn't even bring him up until I was 30 years old. Like, I tried to bring him up before, ask questions, and she would just immediately shut it down. So I really don't know. But what I was thinking about doing is I also have, you know, brothers and sisters that I found out about on my dad's side, and so I wanted to reach out to them and talk to them about the situation before I bring it up to him. But I also kind of don't want to rock the boat, you know what I mean? Come into the, you know, his life late, him coming to mind late. They already have a relationship. I don't want to bring it up that my dad did this bad thing and kind of ruined their relationship. So I appreciate the feedback.

[Rory]

It gets cut off there, but.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

That's where it's at.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Well, good to know that you know who his dad was.

[Mal]

That's crazy when you like, yo, my dad might not even remember hooking up with my mom. She.

[Damaris]

He said his mom don't remember hooking.

[Mal]

Up with his dad.

[Joe Budden]

That's probably a little more common than you think it is.

[Mal]

That's sick.

[Joe Budden]

If somebody's on the road all the time. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Collecting bodies, accepting nut in your vagina from a. You don't know a carnage is insane.

[Joe Budden]

Well, she may not know she was collecting the nut. Like they may just have been having sex and.

[Rory]

No, I mean Carney, you're there for like a week. Most.

[Joe Budden]

Like how you know this much about.

[Mal]

They do know their schedule. You know they're rowdy.

[Rory]

The Altamont fair near where I grew up. That's like a thing.

[Mal]

Is it?

[Damaris]

The great New York State fair is in Syracuse.

[Joe Budden]

But those are there for like a month.

[Damaris]

Yeah, there's a while.

[Mal]

Oh, so he was back in the day.

[Joe Budden]

Wasn't there the carnivals that like were there for the. For the night and then they moved on to the next town.

[Mal]

I don't know about. That's what I'm. Some of those moving carnival.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like the carnival moves every like two days.

[Joe Budden]

That'd be a fun life.

[Mal]

No, getting on a roller coaster at a carnival is like sick. That's the wildest shit. These niggas break this down every night and like put it back together and.

[Joe Budden]

Look who puts it together and y'all.

[Mal]

Getting on this shit.

[Damaris]

But look, that's how you know it's well put together. It be the ones that like be up all year round. That's like checking on it like that.

[Joe Budden]

They weld that there to stay there for.

[Mal]

That's not moving like Six Flags. Those are not moving the carnival that this drunk dude in the back at the Wrench and he's just breaking down every night. I'm not trusting that he's gonna be not hungover tomorrow and be able to put this together.

[Rory]

16 year old kid with pimples all over the place is the operator.

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah.

[Joe Budden]

And like the only safety thing you do is this.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Seems good.

[Mal]

Shake it, shake it.

[Joe Budden]

Little shake test.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That is sick. But even the Ferris wheels are crazy. I've been on Ferris wheels of carnivals that are there for like a few weeks. I shouldn't have done that.

[Mal]

I don't around with that. I don't get on. I play the games at carnivals. You know, some of the food like that.

[Damaris]

You win stuff. Mom, what's your favorite game at the carnival?

[Rory]

You win stuff.

[Mal]

What's my favorite game? I don't know. The.

[Damaris]

The water shooting game is my. I'm I'm undefeated.

[Rory]

The bottle toss, that's like.

[Mal]

That's rigged. Like the oval softball and the milk. What is that the softball in the milk or the. The can?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

That's rigged.

[Joe Budden]

Well, darts in the balloons, I think, is the easiest thing to try to win a prize.

[Rory]

The water one's good. The one that Demera said earlier.

[Damaris]

The water with the gun, and you got to shoot in whoever's fills up first.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. My family, it's always like, who's the newest into the family? Everyone. You put them at the end, and then all of us turn the guns and spray that. It's like a rite of passage for our family.

[Mal]

They could ask for someone's hand in marriage and family.

[Joe Budden]

That's just like a new girlfriend gets that.

[Mal]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

That's definitely not a.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. If you're just new and don't know about the whole gag at the Jersey Shore, everyone's getting sprayed revolver and just.

[Rory]

It's not water.

[Damaris]

I'm kind of nice.

[Joe Budden]

Last time you saw whack a mole just around.

[Damaris]

It's not like when you go to, like, Dave and Buster's.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Rory]

And then. Remember that big one? The. You hit it and it goes.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The bell. That's always.

[Mal]

That's rigged, too.

[Rory]

That thing is rigged.

[Damaris]

How is it rigged? Y'all weak. It ain't rigged.

[Mal]

It's rigged.

[Rory]

Hard as.

[Mal]

You can jump on top of that, and it's not gonna. It's rigged.

[Joe Budden]

I kind of want to do, like, a Dave and Buster's pizza party for my birthday.

[Damaris]

Oh, I won't be here, but that would be so fun.

[Mal]

Wow.

[Joe Budden]

Where are you gonna be?

[Damaris]

Places to go. But that would be so fun.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I just want to do, like, something.

[Mal]

Like that Dave and Busters or, like.

[Joe Budden]

Some type of game thing. I don't have, like, much time to, like, go do. I can't do, like, a trip.

[Mal]

They have a. Well, I guess Dave and Busters is not bad.

[Joe Budden]

I'm trying to think of something local that doesn't take up a lot of time and that you could actually have some fun at.

[Rory]

I like that because, honestly, one of the most fun nights we had on tour was that games. That Game Bar in Houston.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. Places great.

[Rory]

We were playing games the whole night.

[Mal]

Did I go to.

[Rory]

You mom was there for a bit, right?

[Joe Budden]

I think so. I think we went two nights in a row.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think we think we spawned the.

[Joe Budden]

Block because we went to the club that was awful. And then walked across the street. I think then I Think we went back the next day.

[Mal]

Was it the one that was like free? Yes.

[Rory]

Yeah. All the games were free.

[Mal]

All the games for you.

[Rory]

It was. And it was like arcade games too.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But they had the basketball shoe, ping pong.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And a couple other like carnival ish games.

[Joe Budden]

Barcade is fun. They won in the city. There's a couple in Jersey.

[Rory]

Williamsburg has a barcade.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Barcades are cool.

[Damaris]

You might want to try area. I think it's called Area 51 too. It's like an adult.

[Joe Budden]

Like in Nevada.

[Rory]

Nevada.

[Mal]

That's what aliens play.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Or area 31 something. Area 53.

[Rory]

50. Oh, laser tag.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's like laser tag is fun.

[Joe Budden]

Laser tag is really fun.

[Rory]

Mini bowling or paintballing.

[Damaris]

I feel like paintballing will be fun for.

[Joe Budden]

I did paintball in one time for my birthday. Hurt years ago. Not really.

[Rory]

What we should do a bowling outing.

[Mal]

I'm kind of cool on bowling.

[Joe Budden]

I enjoy bowling a lot. I'm always down.

[Mal]

Is one of those things where it's just like I'm cool. Like how many games we about to see him play?

[Damaris]

I feel like two.

[Joe Budden]

Two.

[Mal]

And then when somebody gotta go to the bathroom, you gotta wait for their turn. Everybody on their phone. By the time they come back, you order some food, drinks. Ain't nobody.

[Joe Budden]

You can't bowl with people that stay on their phone though.

[Mal]

Yeah, everybody stays on there.

[Joe Budden]

The only thing nasty about bowling is when you're eating and drinking while also.

[Rory]

Touching the balls, digging your fingers into the balls.

[Joe Budden]

Like eating. Eating nachos and then grabbing and then just chicken finger after you just bowl. And then bowling is crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I love how this guy just called us to tell us about how his creepy dad just nutted in a middle schooler's vag. And then we're like carnival games.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Well, he bought.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Why do you think she's there?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And he said he has a bunch of other siblings. I'm assuming it's just from small town carnival places. Places.

[Mal]

Yeah. He's running around the same age.

[Damaris]

That's a documentary waiting to happen of.

[Joe Budden]

Just all the carnival people that all the carnival minors. Yeah, I can see it. Quick update. This is nice to know. This happens still in 2024 in one of LA's largest cash heists ever. They stole $30 million out of. Yeah, these made off with as much as $30 million on Easter Sunday. Bulgari. Oh, God, I can't breathe.

[Rory]

There you go.

[Mal]

Breathe, breathe.

[Joe Budden]

Count to 10. One, two.

[Mal]

Gotta breathe.

[Joe Budden]

Three, four.

[Mal]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

They stole $30 million on Easter Sunday from a money storage facility. The LA Police say. Isn't that nice to know that like heists still happen.

[Mal]

I thought we like, like, like, like a real tangible money, like cash heist.

[Joe Budden]

I thought heists were left not in like the 90s. Yeah. Cyber heist is like, like legitimately breaking into a place.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

On some George clooney and taking $30 million in 2024.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That makes me feel good.

[Mal]

Three to guys.

[Joe Budden]

Because either way. For sure. Either way, we're gonna get a great Netflix series from this. We'll get a spin off movie. Like this is just going to keep.

[Mal]

The world, you know, Colin Farrell is going to be the detective in this movie.

[Rory]

They said the previous largest heist was 9-12-97, when 18.9 million was stolen from it.

[Joe Budden]

You don't get a Latanza heist anymore.

[Mal]

Yes. 30 million.

[Joe Budden]

It's a lot of.

[Rory]

A lot of damn money.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

A lot of good for them. Yeah.

[Mal]

So I said three to kind of.

[Rory]

Where I'm at with these kind of crimes.

[Joe Budden]

Speaking of heist, I watched it was trending on Netflix. What's Mel Gibson? He plays like a Howard Stern type of guy where he does like a late night show that's very, you know, provocative and pisses off like one of his listeners because he was like pranking everyone on his staff. And then one of the people that used to work there didn't like it, so kidnaps his family, threatens to kill him. And then it's Mel Gibson and this guy just in the radio studio. Mano e mano.

[Rory]

It was pretty funny on the line.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know Mel Gibson was still doing movies, let alone movies like this. But it was trending on Netflix.

[Rory]

This is from. Looks like 2022.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but they just added it to Netflix, so, you know, they get a whole revamp. This, this has heist vibes.

[Mal]

I gotta watch this. I never heard of it.

[Joe Budden]

Watch it and let me, let me know if you predict the.

[Mal]

The ending.

[Joe Budden]

The ending. Because halfway through I was like, nah, I'm not buying this.

[Mal]

All right, I'll check it out this weekend. All right. Bryson Tiller album out now.

[Joe Budden]

Predictions for this Bryson album. I think it's a candidate for R B album of the year. I know there hasn't been much, but.

[Mal]

It'S bright and he puts out good albums, so.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But I think this one's finally gonna get the attention it deserves, the way the last two did not. I don't know, I have a weird feeling about this Bryson album, I think it's going to be really good, and I think Bryson is quote, unquote back.

[Mal]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

That's how I feel. I could be completely wrong, though.

[Mal]

You got Victoria Monet on there. He doesn't have a lot of features. I like.

[Joe Budden]

Child produced that with dma.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Wow.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Shout out to him.

[Joe Budden]

I haven't heard it, but I'm sure it's great.

[Mal]

Not a lot of features. Look like Bryson was like, all right, I got. I can carry the load on this one myself.

[Joe Budden]

19 Records is a lot, though. That scares me.

[Mal]

That is a lot.

[Damaris]

You know what I'm liking about, like, this streaming era where people are trying to put as much as many tracks as possible. They're bringing, like, interludes back because of the streaming cheat code, I guess. I like interludes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. But I just hate when the interlude is so fire and then it just cuts off. It's like, fam. All right, we could have did another minute and a half of that.

[Joe Budden]

Like, my album.

[Rory]

What was the interlude division?

[Joe Budden]

Interlude. That should have been 10 minutes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If we had the time to do it.

[Mal]

Yeah, that. That. That pisses me off sometimes. I'm like, fan. That was a vibe. You only get a minute of that.

[Damaris]

But I want the interludes where, like, the girlfriend is leaving a voicemail. Like, bring those interludes back.

[Joe Budden]

You're saying, like, no music, just, like, actual, like, to continue on with the story. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

[Mal]

I just found out that you have voicemail on your phone now, whether you want it or not.

[Joe Budden]

Really?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think you can leave a voicemail on my. On. You don't even think you have icloud.

[Mal]

Yeah, I got voicemail now. I know that. And I never said voicemail.

[Joe Budden]

It saves your icloud.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You guys ever sent a video voicemail.

[Mal]

If I FaceTime somebody and they didn't answer? Yeah.

[Rory]

You've done that. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know you could do that.

[Damaris]

I haven't gotten the update yet.

[Mal]

I did that with my nephew. He didn't answer one time, and I was just like. Because he's going through this thing now where he just doesn't, like, answer or call me back until, like, he's ready to. You know, they find their own personality. Yeah, yeah, he's busy. Yeah, I just left like, hey, it's your uncle. Just calling to say what's up?

[Damaris]

See, not you turning into the. Because we talk about the old folks when they call up, like, hey, it's Mom. I Know it's you. I know your voice and it's doing.

[Joe Budden]

It on video funnier.

[Mal]

No, that's what.

[Joe Budden]

No, I could see your face.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. That's why I left it like that. I was like, yo, remember me? Like, you know, answer your phone for me. No more. It's okay. Call me back.

[Joe Budden]

That's funny.

[Mal]

But yeah, you have voicemail now on your iPhone. Whether you set up a voicemail or not. No, like people just have the option to leave it and it reads it to you. Like it. You can read.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah, yeah. I haven't listened to a voicemail in a long time. It's always been transcribed.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What are some of your favorite interlude albums? Like interlude albums recently though we don't have to go back to like this. The super classics.

[Rory]

Well, College Drive Out.

[Joe Budden]

Tory Lanez first official album only because they were the funniest thing I'd ever heard. Like when Tory was trying to be a criminal mastermind and it was like, clearly you've never done any, any crime in your life.

[Mal]

But that, that, that thing that was unanimous that that kind of ruined that album for everybody.

[Joe Budden]

It did. It was awful. But I thought they were hilarious. On a good side seat at the table. I love the Master P interludes that she did. I think she set those up really, really good. Trying to think who else does good kid Mad City count?

[Rory]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

But they were like at the in between. They weren't like official interludes. They just told the story in the beginning of end of every song that still can't.

[Rory]

You know which one I hate? Back to the hating one. That one on on Blonded.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, about drugs are bad.

[Rory]

You do drugs, you smoke weed, you end up doing crack.

[Joe Budden]

It Is that really weird? I wasn't sure. He was like trying to be funny.

[Rory]

Oh, it's so annoying. It's. And it's his mom, right? Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Still, it's awful that that's not Frank's mom.

[Rory]

It's supposed to be his mother.

[Joe Budden]

That sounded like a. A 75 year old white lady.

[Rory]

Yeah. His mom, Frank.

[Joe Budden]

Frank has like a 40 year old black mother.

[Damaris]

Well, for this.

[Joe Budden]

I saw her at the Grammy. She's gorgeous.

[Damaris]

For the storyline. It was supposed to be a mother figure. SZA's grandmother has some of my favorite ones on Control.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that one's good.

[Damaris]

Except for that. That damn after weekend that bright ideas. It's just ruins the whole song.

[Rory]

Oh, I like that one.

[Damaris]

I hate it.

[Joe Budden]

It's a lot.

[Mal]

It's the one on Scissors albums. Like she right about it. Is that that one?

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Damaris]

No, that's Jasmine Sullivan did a great job with her interlude.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was a great job.

[Joe Budden]

The hotels. Yeah, that was fire.

[Damaris]

She right about you Right about it.

[Rory]

Ari's. Ari's interludes. I feel like that album brought back a lot of interludes.

[Joe Budden]

Back to Blonde. The other interlude on that with a guy, the French guy, explaining Facebook is like, I just wanted to my girlfriend, and she wanted Facebook. I said, why Rory?

[Rory]

Yeah, why? The two interludes I would love called Facebook story.

[Joe Budden]

I think he was bringing up a lot of good points, though. It was just super unnecessary to have on that album.

[Rory]

I know Frank doesn't speak much, if ever, but I would like to understand.

[Joe Budden]

The reasoning behind these with the croissants and as this. No.

[Rory]

Yeah. Facebook story.

[Joe Budden]

It's weird.

[Mal]

What was those interludes on that Drake album when the dude was like, I turned on the lights for the Eiffel Tower. It is me.

[Rory]

Oh, that's on. Her loss.

[Mal]

That was why?

[Joe Budden]

Hilarious.

[Rory]

You think you'd run Paris?

[Mal]

We don't even do Fashion Week. You see the Eiffel Towers? I am turning on the lights. That is me. You can never match my drive. I'm like, whoever that is, they talking cash. If I'm the one that turned on the lights for the Eiffel Tower, the niggas in Paris can't tell me that.

[Joe Budden]

Was that fake. That hotel at the top of the Eiffel Tower.

[Rory]

When did you see that?

[Joe Budden]

Yesterday. Kia showed it to me, and I wasn't sure if she was showing me something that was fake or real because I was in the middle of something. It looked like a concept that they were trying to do of an actual hotel room at the top of the Eiffel Tower.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

No.

[Joe Budden]

It was in passing, so I wasn't quite sure.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't think they even have.

[Joe Budden]

Great interludes on her loss. And then give us Snoop all of a sudden, making for all the Dogs a radio station out of nowhere. Why did he 75 through that album? Now it's a radio.

[Rory]

Well, welcome to the dog radio. Wait, what?

[Mal]

Well, I mean, did we get here? I mean, I think that because of Snoop's first album, his interludes were a radio.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, like, no.

[Joe Budden]

The Jack Off Hour.

[Mal]

I remember wzup.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Was. No, it was. Wow.

[Joe Budden]

Something with DJ Easy Dick.

[Mal]

W balls.

[Joe Budden]

Rel's gonna remember.

[Mal]

Yeah. W Balls. DJ Easy Dick. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I think Rory's complaint was just that he didn't start that concept. Yes.

[Joe Budden]

So random. This was one of the other Sicker side of interludes that were great. Big Sean, Detroit mixtape, which is one of my favorites. Right. For me, he reached out to Snoop, Jeezy, bunch of other people that were not from Detroit, but were just giving their experiences of Detroit, which I thought was really dope.

[Mal]

All right, well, we'll be back next week to talk to y'all, to kick it with y'all some more. In closing, I will say this. I think we might get that. That Drake record over the weekend.

[Rory]

Dreamville. Weekend. Dreamville. Fast. Holler at us, yomi. And I'll be out there. We'll be in the field.

[Damaris]

Do you think J. Cole is gonna do something this weekend? No insider trading, but just. Do you think.

[Rory]

Find out when I get there.

[Mal]

Found out when I. That sound like the name of a song?

[Rory]

Taking the bus back from Raleigh to here.

[Mal]

That's a sick ride.

[Rory]

You know how far with boss?

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Rory]

I think I'm taking a mega bus.

[Mal]

That's a ride even on a tour bus. That's right. But at least it's like a tour box. It's like homies are. Yeah, it's different.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that sounds like fun. Yeah, that'd be a Megabus from Raleigh.

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

I don't even know how long the ride is. Pause. I don't know what the.

[Damaris]

What is it, like, 16 hours?

[Mal]

Yeah, something like. Really? Yeah.

[Rory]

Why would I say yeah?

[Damaris]

Or 12?

[Joe Budden]

Nah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Because from Raleigh to here, I've driven from New York to Atlanta, 17 hours.

[Mal]

To Virginia, six hours.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. North Carolina's right after Virginia.

[Rory]

Oh, it's eight hours.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Joe Budden]

That's not bad.

[Mal]

To Raleigh.

[Rory]

Oh, I could do that.

[Joe Budden]

Eight hours on a Megabus is not fun, I'll tell you that.

[Mal]

No, that's really sick. I thought it was. I thought it was longer than that. That's not that bad. That's not bad.

[Damaris]

Ain't that.

[Joe Budden]

No. When I was running track, we used to do that to Greensboro. We'd run out a lot. Like, it's.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It's not that bad of a trip on a mega bus, though. Hell, no.

[Rory]

Never been around.

[Mal]

But it's certain parts of North Carolina where It is, like, 10 hours, though.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, if you go further west, I would assume. All right.

[Mal]

All right. Well, have fun. Be safe down there. You guys let us know how it was. But, yeah, hopefully, I think we get this. This response record. This weekend.

[Joe Budden]

I'll be in Montreal. Any.

[Mal]

That's this weekend, too.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going to Montreal this weekend.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

So what if Cole and Drake both.

[Rory]

Respond this Weekend emergency Twitter spaces again.

[Mal]

No, thank you.

[Rory]

I'll do it with Cole.

[Joe Budden]

He's not gonna be.

[Rory]

I'll ask him and he'll say no. Okay, that's fair.

[Mal]

Yeah. Which is fine. I don't know if I want. I don't know if I want it to happen like that, though.

[Damaris]

Well, how would you prefer it to happen?

[Mal]

I would prefer them to just drop the records at different times. Cause doing the show together, doing the records there, debuting it there, it kind of feel like y'all jumping Kendrick, and.

[Joe Budden]

You'Ve proven Kendrick right.

[Mal]

Yeah, Like, I don't. That is.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it just.

[Mal]

It just. It just will feel. It'll.

[Rory]

They can't do it the same day.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, they can't do that. It has to be. This has to be a separate thing. But I do. I don't know. I just got a feeling we gonna get one of those records.

[Rory]

Rumor is Kendrick's got two in the tuck.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think it's probably more than that at this point. I.

[Damaris]

What I hope Cole does is, like, Drake drop. And then if Kendrick, like. You know how when your homie, like, swing and then, like, the other swing back, but he kind of stumble, and you got to, like, kind of step in for your man, like.

[Mal]

So you want them to jump him explaining jumping. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you. I don't want them to do.

[Damaris]

You only jump over if your homegirl is winning, you don't jump in. But if she losing, then you got nothing.

[Mal]

The only time. Only time you jumping in, if my homeboy is square, if he catching the fade with somebody and he's losing, the only way I jump in is if it look like he's down and homie starts slamming his head into the ground or something, like, where it's like, all right, now you about to kill my man. But if you break even, then I'm not swinging. Even if I swing. But even then, I don't know if I swing on him. Like, I would grab him and be like, all right, like, that's enough. But I wouldn't start hitting a dude. That's. Nah.

[Damaris]

Either he won or we won.

[Mal]

You can't do that. See, that's cool. That's why niggas start shooting, because that's the.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm a woman, so.

[Mal]

I just seen a video of a girl chasing some girl down, busting at her. I saw that in front of the police. I thought that was a movie. I said, there's no way this is real. Like, there's no way this cop didn't kill that girl. Like, she's shooting at another person, chasing the girl. And you, a cop, running behind her. You don't shoot the girl. I'm trying. These women doing this shit, so I don't know.

[Rory]

You guys think 50 will troll diddy anymore? He's on the lineup now.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. I think he'll dedicate most of the show to that.

[Rory]

I'm so excited for that.

[Mal]

Are you kidding me?

[Joe Budden]

Most of the.

[Rory]

I was 50.

[Mal]

You can't get 50 just typing in that.

[Joe Budden]

He might wrap all his album over Puff Beats Pizza.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I'm so happy to be there.

[Mal]

Yeah. Ah. All right, well, have fun. Be safe. We'll talk to y'all next week. I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace.

[Joe Budden]

No worrying now.