Episode 263 | Roc Nation’s Black Magic

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 263 | Roc Nation’s Black Magic

Introduction In Episode 263 of "New Rory & MAL," released on April 26, 2024, hosts Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris tackle the controversial legal battle surrounding Roc Nation’s lawsuit against Meg Thee Stallion. The episode delves deep into the allegations, the surrounding drama, and broader implications within the entertainment industry. Alongside this central topic, the hosts engage in spirited discussions about rap beefs, celebrity antics, sports highlights, and personal anecdotes, weaving humor and insight throughout the conversation.

Main Topic: Roc Nation’s Black Magic – Meg Thee Stallion’s Lawsuit The episode opens with Rory introducing the contentious lawsuit involving Meg Thee Stallion and her former cameraman. The lawsuit centers on claims of unpaid wages and unprofessional conduct, specifically alleging that Meg coerced her cameraman into witnessing intimate acts in a moving car.

• Rory expresses confusion and concern: “This whole football competition thing we have. Maybe I'm rethinking it. I didn't know what crop he came from.” ([00:00])
• Mal clarifies the situation with sarcasm: “You didn't know what loins you came out of? Yeah, he came out of black.” ([00:04])

As the discussion unfolds, the hosts dissect the validity of the claims and Meg's public image management:

• Rory criticizes Meg’s PR strategies: “Been outed for being a shitty friend. Been outed for lying most of the timeline...” ([02:37])
• Mal questions the motivations behind the lawsuit, suggesting it might be a libelous cash grab: “He was forced to... if you want to go to a courtroom... you cannot start f***ing in front of someone you just hired.” ([07:03])

The hosts debate whether the lawsuit constitutes sexual harassment or is primarily about unpaid wages. They analyze the potential impact on Meg’s reputation and career, emphasizing the importance of honoring contractual obligations over personal misconduct.

Sexual Harassment and Workplace Conduct A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the fine line between personal relationships and professional responsibilities. The hosts underscore the unacceptability of engaging in intimate acts within a work environment, regardless of personal feelings.

• Rory emphasizes professionalism: “You should not hook up with your coworker or your boss or anyone. You should not f*** in a car around anyone you work with, Period.” ([05:10])
• Mal adds, “Going to a strip club with the woman that you're on tour with. And hey, you know, I felt like that was sexual harassment.” ([06:42])

Rap Beefs and Hip-Hop Culture Shifting gears, the hosts dive into the dynamics of rap beefs, comparing historical feuds to contemporary conflicts. They express skepticism about fake beefs orchestrated for publicity and discuss the potential for real-world violence stemming from these feuds.

• Rory laments the evolution of diss records: “This is how rap battle shit completely had a fork in the road and shifted.” ([55:28])
• Mal warns about escalating tensions: “Now we're talking about a different type of energy that we're introducing into this.” ([43:22])

The conversation highlights specific rivalries, such as Quavo vs. Chris Brown, examining the sincerity and possible outcomes of these conflicts.

Celebrity Personal Lives and Mental Health The hosts turn their attention to Kanye West, critiquing his public statements and personal struggles. They discuss his alleged porn addiction and its impact on his family, drawing parallels between his actions and their consequences.

• Rory addresses Kanye’s contradictions: “He screamed at all of us and denounced all his friends because we wouldn't join him in his custody battle...” ([65:30])
• Mal emphasizes the need for support: “He needs to get the proper help. Surround yourself with the right people and yeah, just take care of yourself, man.” ([66:36])

Sports Talk: New York Knicks Injecting some levity, the hosts discuss recent NBA games, focusing on the New York Knicks’ performance in the playoffs. They share personal stories and express enthusiasm for the team’s dynamics.

• Mal praises the teamwork: “It's a fun team to watch. I know we're like New York, biased as f***, but even if you're just a fan, it's fun.” ([89:17])
• Damaris highlights individual performances: “There were five guys in double figures... Everyone's touching the ball, everyone's getting buckets.” ([89:33])

Listener Mail: Friendship Advice A heartfelt voicemail from listener Duke seeks friendship advice regarding his two friends who are behaving like brothers. Duke is conflicted about whether to inform his friend about inappropriate advances from one of the group.

• Rory advises honesty: “You gotta tell him, right?” ([72:20])
• Mal shares a personal anecdote emphasizing loyalty and confrontation: “I walked up to her. So I was like, damn, should I just peep it and just tell my homeboy...” ([73:45])

The hosts concur that transparency is crucial in maintaining trust within friendships, especially when witnessing questionable behavior.

Final Discussions and Sign-Off As the episode concludes, the hosts offer condolences for the loss of Rico Wade, a pivotal figure in Atlanta hip-hop. They reflect on his contributions and the void his passing creates within the community.

• Mal: “Shout out to Rico Wade. He was one of the greatest producers, one of the greatest architects in hip hop...” ([69:38])

The hosts wrap up with lighthearted banter about personal experiences and upcoming basketball games, reinforcing their camaraderie and commitment to returning the following week.

• Mal signs off: “We'll be back Monday, everybody. Have a safe weekend.” ([90:45])

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: “You should not hook up with your coworker or your boss or anyone. You should not f*** in a car around anyone you work with, Period.” ([05:10])
• Mal: “He needs to get the proper help. Surround yourself with the right people and yeah, just take care of yourself, man.” ([66:36])
• Rory: “Tory Lanez should be studied on how he flipped that narrative.” ([02:21])

Conclusion Episode 263 of "New Rory & MAL" offers a multifaceted exploration of Meg Thee Stallion’s legal issues within the broader context of hip-hop culture, celebrity dynamics, and personal accountability. Through a blend of serious analysis and humorous dialogue, the hosts provide listeners with both insightful commentary and entertaining discourse, maintaining engagement from start to finish.

Transcript

[Rory]

This whole football competition thing we have. Maybe I'm rethinking it. I didn't know what crop he came from.

[Mal]

You didn't know what loins you came out of? Yeah, he came out of black.

[Rory]

I didn't know what was going on.

[Mal]

I mean, that's black magic. That's Black Magic's boy over there. You didn't know that?

[Rory]

Can't even walk around Albany without hearing it.

[Mal]

Nah. No, they know black magic up there. What's wrong with you? That's Black Magic's boy sitting right there, man. No warrior now.

[Rory]

Got a black magic woman Got a.

[Damaris]

Black magic woman.

[Mal]

I've got a black.

[Rory]

Magic woman Got me so blind I.

[Mal]

Can see.

[Rory]

That she's a black magic woman she's trying to make a double.

[Damaris]

Jason, you will crumble.

[Rory]

M. The day is coming. It's in the scripture.

[Damaris]

Brick by brick.

[Rory]

Is it P. Pastor Tory Lane Senior tried to tell us. He didn't say when it was going to happen, but it's in the cars.

[Mal]

Of what?

[Rory]

It's Passover now, too, right?

[Mal]

What's in the cars, though?

[Rory]

No, what do you mean, what's in the cars? He said it to the Worlds.

[Julian]

Okay, you think this is crumbling Rock Nation?

[Rory]

It's give me liberty or give me death. And then there's this. Looks like it's about to happen.

[Mal]

You must have some information that I don't.

[Rory]

I don't have any information. But what the headlines say.

[Mal]

What are the headlines saying?

[Rory]

The darling Meg the Stallion.

[Mal]

Huh?

[Rory]

The timeline's darling. Why do people get so excited whenever. Wait, wait.

[Mal]

When did she become the darling?

[Julian]

She's not the darling.

[Mal]

They just killed her for years. So after being a victim of gun.

[Rory]

Violence, the timeline insists that we always, like, speak up for Meg the Stallion. She's been outed for being a shitty friend. Been outed for lying most of the timeline, like I said, Tory Lanez should be studied. As far as pr. When he gets out of jail, I think he could run the best PR agency of all time. Like, generals should study him on how he flipped that narrative. Most of the Internet was on Tory's side. We were the very few people in the media that were like, nah, I feel like she got shot. So when this new headline came out, which we'll get to, the timeline was like, look, we told you she's an awful fucking person. Anytime she does something, all of the Tory Lanez fan base and just the men that hate women, which is a high percentage, comes to the timeline to.

[Mal]

And also black women that hate Black.

[Rory]

Women that as well come to the timeline to tell us how bad of a person Meg Thee stallion is. I don't know Meg Thee stallion. I've never met Meg Thee stallion. She could be a shitty person. I. I've never debated if she's a shitty person.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

I think fucking your friend's man's behind her back is some shady shitty behavior. But I wasn't here to talk about that. I think she got shot. Two totally different things. She's a bad friend that got shot.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

Now, yesterday came across every headline you could think of because Meg has been painted to be this liar that she is now being sued by her former cameraman for allegedly forcing him to watch her have sex in a moving car.

[Damaris]

Moving.

[Rory]

They were in. They were in Ibiza, Spain. It was in June of, what, 2023.

[Julian]

If I'm not mistaken. 2022.

[Rory]

It was around the time she was with Party. Party was out there. They had left a club. And allegedly this cameraman says that her and her friend started hooking up and had sex next to him in the car.

[Damaris]

Not in Ibiza.

[Rory]

The car was moving. He couldn't get out. He was super uncomfortable. Then the next day, Meg was like, yo, don't ever speak about any of the shit that you ever saw.

[Mal]

Do we have a picture of this dude?

[Damaris]

She said, oh, and by the way, you're fat.

[Julian]

So just.

[Rory]

That was also in the lawsuit. Would fat shame him all the time.

[Julian]

Just for some clarity on what the lawsuit's actually for, he is suing her for unpaid wages. He says that allegedly after that incident or some time after that incident, he went from being on payroll, like on a regular payroll, to having to be paid by job. Like, they would give him assignments, and they would pay him for each assignment. He had to send an invoice. So his pay structure changed, and then eventually they fired him, and now he is suing for unpaid wages because they fired him. And in the lawsuit, he also says, hey, this happened. Like, it was an unsafe or toxic work environment.

[Mal]

So he's. He's saying in the lawsuit he was subjected to sexual harassment.

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Because he was forced to. Well, that's what it says.

[Damaris]

That's what it says.

[Julian]

But it's not a sexual. I just want to make it clear that it's not a sexual harassment lawsuit.

[Mal]

No, I'm saying he's saying that he was subjected to sexual.

[Julian]

I'm sorry for interrupting you guys.

[Mal]

Okay. Clearly he's gay. I think only a gay man would feel.

[Rory]

But you're saying that because he is openly gay, right?

[Mal]

Well, yeah.

[Rory]

Not because. Not because of the situation.

[Mal]

No, no, no, clearly. I'm just looking at photos of him. He seems to be a gay man, which is fine, but I only think that only a gay man would feel like. Two women hooking up in a car is sexual harassment.

[Rory]

I was curious how we were going to go about this. This one.

[Mal]

It's only one way to go about it. Only a gay man would be offended at two.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Making out and eating each other out in a car.

[Rory]

I'm going to preface this. You should not. No matter gay, straight, whatever. You should not hook up with your co worker or your boss or anyone. You should not fuck in a car around anyone you work with, Period. You shouldn't.

[Julian]

You just said I could fuck Taylor in the backseat of your car.

[Damaris]

Yeah, in Newark.

[Rory]

That was for content that you consent.

[Damaris]

They're in Ibiza.

[Rory]

That was.

[Damaris]

This is like Ibiza 101.

[Rory]

Consensual content now. You should never do that.

[Damaris]

Consensual content.

[Rory]

But then there's like the Rory side of me that has to laugh that somebody could have anxiety and depression because Meg thee stallion got her pussy ate next to you. I should be so fucking lucky. I mean, that might cure my depression.

[Damaris]

That's the gay shit I've ever heard.

[Mal]

I mean, that sounds like a fucking.

[Rory]

Part, but I know what it's like to have anxiety. If Meg started getting her pussy eight right here, my hand would stop shaking.

[Damaris]

Yeah, the mic stand would work.

[Rory]

I wouldn't have a bit of anxiety in my fucking body. Now that's me saying that I want to give this gentleman grace because he could have felt uncomfortable no matter what. A straight man could too. Maybe he takes that job, extremely straight man, seriously.

[Mal]

Stop. Yo, I'm not letting you do that in 2020.

[Rory]

I have to be consistent because the Lizzo shit I thought was wrong too. Don't bring your co workers to a strip club when they don't want to.

[Mal]

No, you don't. That was stupid too.

[Rory]

So is. But you don't think it's dumb on Megan's part?

[Mal]

Going to a strip club to get.

[Rory]

Your pussy in a car next to your coworker?

[Mal]

Going to a strip club with the woman that you're on tour with. And hey, you know, I felt like that was sexual harassment. I didn't want. Are you fucking kidding me? We know a cash grab when we see one. It's okay to point it out.

[Rory]

I agree. This is a cash grab and that.

[Mal]

Was a cash 100% so too yeah.

[Damaris]

The more I think.

[Mal]

So what are we talking? Why are we protecting cash grabs?

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not protecting it. I'm just Sound like, you know, there's some merit to it.

[Mal]

What's the merit?

[Rory]

You cannot start fucking in a car when you're next to someone you're working with on the clock. He had a camera. He was there filming them at the club. I'm sure they were shooting content.

[Mal]

Okay, so let me.

[Rory]

So you can't start fucking unless that's part of the content.

[Mal]

Let me ask you something. Do you think he would have ever said this in a lawsuit if he was paid?

[Damaris]

Hell, no.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

All right, then. So again, stop protecting cash grabs, bro. It's okay to point people out like, yo, you just trying to get some money. It's okay.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

Smear her name in the process.

[Rory]

Okay. If you, in fact owe somebody money, you should keep in the back of your mind that you did some wild in a car and they saw it. Because now this person has. Now this person has leverage over you, so you should treat them accordingly and at least honor a fucking contract or whatever it is that you need.

[Mal]

Agreed. Honor the contract. I'm with you on that.

[Rory]

And I'm saying this isn't a sexual harassment lawsuit. As the mayor said, this is an unpaid wages thing. Now, if he has real evidence that Meg the Stallion did not pay him. Meg should not be playing with somebody that has a lot of fucking dirt on her. And if you want to go to a courtroom. If you want to go to a courtroom. Not this podcast. Not this podcast studio. You want to go to a courtroom. No. You cannot start fucking in front of someone you just hired.

[Mal]

Not dirt, bro. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

In a courtroom. You can't start fucking. You can't.

[Mal]

Man, cut it out. We not. We not.

[Julian]

That's not what she would be on trial for. She would be on trial for the unpaid wages.

[Rory]

Unless he's going to.

[Julian]

Unless he's going to.

[Rory]

That is just leverage, because legally you cannot do that. So you're now going to not pay someone that has some shit over your head that you did illegally in a workplace.

[Damaris]

I get what Rory's saying.

[Mal]

That wasn't a workplace. It was a car.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but it's still. That's the. The what?

[Mal]

What are y'all talking about?

[Damaris]

He was working. He was a work.

[Rory]

Hired to follow her around with his camera.

[Mal]

Yeah, hold that camera and document my life. It's lit. I get my. In the car, in the visa. It's lit, but with the quote of.

[Damaris]

Why aren't you filming?

[Mal]

Yeah, like, turn the camera on, you geek. Fuck we talking about here? Turn the camera on and mind your fucking business.

[Julian]

And get a good angle.

[Rory]

Yeah, someone to film something but mind their business is crazy.

[Mal]

Your business.

[Rory]

This is your business. No, it's your business.

[Mal]

Turn the camera on and document this shit. Because I might want to relive this moment 20 years from now.

[Damaris]

It seems like Meg was blackout because it doesn't seem like she remembered that. The quote says, plaintiff could not get out of the car as it was moving. He was in the middle of nowhere in a foreign country. It's a visa. Relax.

[Mal]

He's only. He doesn't like fish.

[Damaris]

He was mortified and offended. That's what it is. This is what.

[Mal]

He doesn't like fish. Okay? They were at the fish market tossing around trout. And, you know, I think whatever it.

[Rory]

Looks like, it smells good.

[Damaris]

Probably bluefin, tuna.

[Mal]

Bluefin, whatever it is.

[Damaris]

Beautiful fish.

[Mal]

You know, caviar. And he just doesn't like fish.

[Rory]

I know that's fine.

[Mal]

You. You don't have to like fish. But you're not gonna say, oh, I. I can't sleep. I'm distressed. My anxiety. Cut the.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, that's. That's what you cut. The lawyers say.

[Mal]

Yeah, but cut the lawyer jogging. Cut the shit. You want your money. How much? Mega. And the funny shit about shit like this is, Meg probably don't even remember that she owes this dude any money.

[Rory]

That's like this responsibility, like, that goes.

[Mal]

Under the table all the time. Like, oh, shit, how much we owe him? 10,000. I send the check. Send the fucking wire.

[Rory]

No, you're correct. I'm sure. That's probably.

[Mal]

All of a sudden, we know Meg was eating pussy in Ibiza.

[Damaris]

I like her more. What do you guys think?

[Mal]

Download Meg shit right now. Because I know one of them songs is talking about this shit.

[Damaris]

What do you guys feel about the fat shaming, though? Because that's another angle. She said, here's another quote. The suit adds, quote, stallion berated and directed her fat shaming comments towards the plaintiff. Such as, quote, fat bitch, spit your food out. And you don't be.

[Mal]

You.

[Damaris]

You don't need to be eating.

[Rory]

Ok.

[Mal]

Sounds like a good friend.

[Rory]

This is what's fucked up. And this is why I hate, like, court papers, like, when you read it back, love, because they could actually have some type of friendship. And you have seen gay men and women speak to each other.

[Damaris]

It's so fast.

[Rory]

Like, that could have been. He probably could have said, like, yo, I'm trying to lose weight. Like, two hours ago, they go to lunch, you fat bitch. Stop. Like, reading it in court. It sounds crazy, but we. We've heard women say that to their gay friend before.

[Mal]

Fuck gay friends. That's. My homeboy just called me a fat bitch last week. I've been doing 2A days since he called me a fat bitch. Word. I'm fat, right? All right, fuck that.

[Rory]

Okay?

[Mal]

He ain't gonna be able to call me a fat bitch in a month from now.

[Rory]

Okay, but was he getting head in the back seat with you?

[Mal]

He don't.

[Rory]

Who your homeboy.

[Mal]

That was another night. We was, you know, wild nights.

[Rory]

Hey, yo.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Getting head with me. What is that? And they say he was giving me head.

[Rory]

I think it's ao anytime that men have their dick out together.

[Mal]

But that's just girls around. I mean, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

So I'm. Listen, I'm a prude.

[Mal]

Yeah. But this dude Emilio cut the. You trying to get a cash grab. Sitting the 7500 like, whatever it is. Sitting the 75, like, you know, I.

[Julian]

Mean, and then he's complaining that he didn't have. He didn't have access to basic health care. You should have filed for private health care once you were a 1099 employee. That doesn't come with health care.

[Damaris]

Oh, he's pansexual.

[Mal]

He's what? I'm just reading up on this gentleman these terms, man. I'm sick of you. No, but I think.

[Damaris]

But I think pansexual.

[Mal]

What the is pansexual?

[Julian]

You're attracted to everything. Everything.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So how you not attracted? That's my point.

[Mal]

Attracted to Megan. Those long, thick legs being spread open in the back. See, it went a different way. It would have been a lawsuit on me if I was in that car.

[Rory]

Oh, come on, say that.

[Mal]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying this isn't going well. I'm just saying it would have possibly been because I would have had.

[Damaris]

I would have backed out, allegedly.

[Mal]

I would have backed the pistol out on.

[Damaris]

I'm saying again, she already had a shot.

[Mal]

It would have been a different shot this time.

[Damaris]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Rory]

I feel like, though, reading that situation, you wouldn't be too wrong. I don't want to put us in a worse place now, but if two girls. If it's the three of us and two girls start fucking and eating each other out, like, I feel like they would wait to the hotel room if I wasn't a part of it. I Think you could. You could.

[Mal]

Yeah. If you're doing it in front of.

[Rory]

Me, you could back out if they doing it in front of you. Right.

[Mal]

That means whoever. Whoever getting eaten out. I need to go eat her out because, like, she's not being tended to, like, properly. Sorry.

[Rory]

Not wrong.

[Damaris]

Oh, you're a team. This is a team player.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So I'm like, okay, if Meg is eating her out and she got her ass cocked up in the air, that means I should be eating Mega should be your turn.

[Rory]

I can't wait for. For the documentary of just the drivers that have driven Meg the Stallion. It's always a driver going through some. Anytime Mega's in the car.

[Damaris]

Diddy driver. Got some stories.

[Julian]

I'm about to learn how to drive.

[Rory]

Word.

[Mal]

I mean Meg, if that's what you doing. Your cause. Listen, man, I'm free on weekends anytime you in New York. Like, if you don't want to say a word. Yeah, like I'm. Listen, I don't got to sign shit. Like, we just. We good.

[Rory]

Yo, I got health insurance.

[Mal]

Yeah, you said that's what happens when you keep these fucking weirdos around. You see.

[Rory]

Don't. All right.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

No, I have to bring some order to this because this is not. Man, it doesn't matter what your preference is.

[Mal]

You. I'm not.

[Rory]

Somebody hires you.

[Mal]

You can't.

[Rory]

In front of him.

[Mal]

I'm not talking about his sexual preference. I don't give a fuck about.

[Rory]

If you were in the car with Peach. You think it'd be appropriate if you just started a girl in front of Peach in the back of an SUV while we were leaving a live show?

[Mal]

I bet. I bet you Peach wouldn't be in the courtroom 10 years him like. Yo, he made me watch.

[Damaris]

I. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. If Maul did that, I would understand.

[Mal]

Yeah, I wouldn't feel Julian put his AirPods feeling away. Are you kidding me?

[Damaris]

Turn the music off.

[Rory]

I would say hey, can you wait? We're on our. We're on our way to the mall.

[Mal]

We. I'm not going to finish right here, but we going to start it right here. But we on our way to the hotel.

[Damaris]

Some head on the way to the hotel. That's fine.

[Mal]

Yeah, a little head on the way to the hotel. What's wrong with who? Who. Is that a crime?

[Rory]

Leaving.

[Mal]

That's a crime.

[Rory]

Leaving a workplace with your co workers. Yes, it is.

[Mal]

But. But he's. Come on, man.

[Julian]

Talking from the eyes of the. Talking from the eyes of the law. The law Strictly not from.

[Mal]

I don't know what the laws are. Any bees is all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

There are none.

[Mal]

Well then, look, it sounds like Meg is innocent. Free three the guys, three her three her. Three backwards.

[Rory]

I need to stop using people on this staff because our staff is full of fucking degenerates. If we hired, say we were in LA and just hired a girl that we had not met, she was just taking photos of us and rode with us in the suv and we were leaving the live show, giving her a ride back to the hotel that we were all staying in.

[Mal]

This sounds like one of them nights, Julia.

[Rory]

And then you. You grab a girl from the crowd, she comes with us, you start getting head next to this girl that we just hired, don't even know. She's just there to shoot photos. Is that appropriate?

[Mal]

No, it's not appropriate.

[Rory]

Of course it's not.

[Damaris]

But that's not this case. They knew each other.

[Julian]

Now you're sad for three years.

[Damaris]

He was there with them for three years.

[Mal]

You like one of them Jewish lawyers like you try to spin the narrative.

[Rory]

No, it's not a narrative. It's not. I get appropriate.

[Julian]

I get what Rory's talking about.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but he was with them for three years. So in this. In this case, in our. Our system, it would be as if Peach was in the car. Because he's been with us for three years.

[Mal]

How many times I had to watch somebody shoot dope? You talking about getting eaten out? This is nothing.

[Rory]

I don't think, and I know you never do this. I don't think Damaris or Yomi would feel comfortable watching you get head leaving a show.

[Damaris]

I wouldn't watch, but I wouldn't be offended if he did happen in the car.

[Rory]

Are you Yomi or Damaris?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

I don't think Yomi or Damaris would be offended by that.

[Julian]

I would. I wouldn't be offended, but I. Ah.

[Mal]

You would not be offended. Would you be offended if we out on the road on tour and I meet a girl and then.

[Rory]

Why would you do that? It's like that would be the whole thing, but like, that would be.

[Mal]

You would be concerned.

[Julian]

That's sexual. That's concerned about.

[Rory]

Get your dick away from me. We work together.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's.

[Mal]

My dick is not next to her. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

We're in a car.

[Julian]

I can smell your dick. The windows are up.

[Mal]

This just smell like dove. It's all good. Like we ain't. Nobody ain't tripping.

[Rory]

You got that Dovey dick.

[Mal]

Yeah, I Got that Dove dick. That's a fact. Yeah.

[Rory]

Cleans oil off ducks.

[Mal]

And this is grade A government.

[Julian]

That's not. That's not the Dove soap. That's Dove dishwashing liquid. Not the soap.

[Rory]

Talk about, you know, maybe the dark idiot.

[Mal]

I'm just saying. Man three, the guys, man.

[Rory]

No one's in jail.

[Mal]

Yeah, they final send me to jail.

[Rory]

I feel like he's a cash grab. You are right. But I'm saying the scenario is still inappropriate. Even though that would be a dream for me, doesn't mean it's a dream for everybody else.

[Julian]

And he ain't give a rat's ass if he would have still been on staff. He would have been twerking, shaking right. He wouldn't have given a fuck.

[Mal]

He's still riding the boat.

[Damaris]

How many times he ride the fucking boat? Now he's getting mad.

[Mal]

If he would have been a heterosexual male, it wouldn't. We would never even heard about this. That's a fact.

[Rory]

Okay, new scenario. You are in that far. You are heterosexual because you are. Let's say you were on that vacation, but her. Her man was there. Party was there. You have somewhat of a relationship with him. That's not like your friend friend. But you work for Meg. She's cheating on her man. How would you feel in that car? Would you pull your dick out knowing that you're hanging out with her boyfriend too?

[Mal]

Wait, say that again.

[Rory]

She was on vacation with Party at the time.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Party was not in the car. They went out to the club.

[Damaris]

True.

[Rory]

I'm sure that gentleman was hanging out with Party as well.

[Julian]

Matter of fact, who said Party wasn't in the car?

[Rory]

It's not in the this lawsuit, so let's just go with that. He probably was in the car. He was probably coaching that shit because he's.

[Damaris]

He's real album inspo.

[Rory]

Would you back your shit out knowing you're working with Meg? And her man, who you hang out with and have to be on vacation with, is also at the hotel when you get back.

[Mal]

So same scenario. I'm in the car. Meg is with her homegirl. Party, that's Meg's boyfriend, is in another car on the way to the hotel. The two girls in the back start eating each other out. I'm texting that nigga like it's lit, nigga. The fuck you talking about? I'm a nigga. They eating each other out, nigga. I'm with this shit.

[Rory]

Let me get the other one.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's lit, fam. It's lit. These bitches in here licking and sucking each other. I'm letting you know now, soon as we get to the hotel, it better not be no locked doors.

[Rory]

We are never gonna go to Visa.

[Damaris]

Can we go to Ibiza?

[Mal]

I'm just saying, what's the point if you eating the girl out in front of me? I'm gonna. As a heterosexual man and I'm attracted to her. I'm gonna let y'all know, like, listen, I'm getting turned on by this.

[Julian]

And also, if he was heterosexual, I doubt that she would have started doing that.

[Damaris]

That's true.

[Rory]

I agree.

[Damaris]

That's some you do in front of a gay friend.

[Mal]

Yeah, like in front of me. If girls do that in front of me, they. They already know. Like, listen, this. He. He trying to get join in. There's no way this was it ever.

[Julian]

Pointed, like painted out that they were performing oral sex. I think he just said that they were fooling around.

[Rory]

I think that's why I said that was.

[Mal]

Some titties play with the.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You know.

[Rory]

Yeah, they were making.

[Mal]

See, we've all been around that once or twice. Like, you know what it is. Like, but I don't know when he.

[Rory]

Said sex that they were like somebody.

[Mal]

Was somebody back the strap auto and like the strap on out the mini.

[Rory]

Dress just pulled up.

[Mal]

She had it on.

[Rory]

It was hanging out the dress.

[Damaris]

Yeah. That's what you thought was going hanging out seven hard.

[Julian]

So do you guys think that he is going anywhere with this lawsuit?

[Mal]

Probably not, man. No, he ain't going. No, they gonna tell that. Stop wasting the people.

[Damaris]

I think he up his career because now who wants to work, wants to.

[Julian]

Hire you, Big mouth.

[Mal]

No. You know how I go. He'll start a podcast.

[Rory]

He'll get interviewed once by one off brand Shade Room, and he'll go sit.

[Mal]

Down with Jason Lee. You know, you know, you know, we've.

[Rory]

Seen whoever is trying to be mad at Megan at the time.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's all.

[Rory]

But even then, you know, the funniest thing on Twitter to me was, yo, everyone, let's let the courts do what they need to do. We need to get all the footage and all the evidence to make sure we know what's happening.

[Mal]

What's the footage?

[Rory]

Yeah, we need to see the footage to see if Meg is in the wrong.

[Mal]

Matter of fact, send it to me and let me let y'all know if we need to go any further with this case, because I'll let y'all know.

[Rory]

I hope she doesn't settle. Even though I think she. She will settle.

[Mal]

Nah, Meg don't settle. Fuck that.

[Julian]

You already told my business what I'm settling for at this point.

[Damaris]

True. Yeah. What else can you. I mean, unless there's more.

[Rory]

I mean, the sake of time.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Pay him back what. What he claims is owed and keep it moving. Give him his 10k.

[Mal]

And man, keep some real niggas around you that would not mind you and your girlfriend, you know, being romantic with each other. Keep these widows out your circle.

[Damaris]

True.

[Mal]

That's all. That's what it comes down to.

[Rory]

Y'all eating each other out in front of the gay bestie.

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

You. I'm the. You're the only person I could be asked that to.

[Julian]

No, I don't have any gay besties other than Julian.

[Rory]

Okay. Yeah, because I know y'all be like butt ass around the gay bestie. And that. That is what it is. I know y'all freaking off in front of the gay bestie.

[Julian]

I can't speak for that. I've literally never had a gay bestie that was a man. So I. I have no clue.

[Damaris]

You have no gay friends?

[Julian]

Gay male friends, huh?

[Damaris]

Not like every group of women has one.

[Julian]

Nope.

[Rory]

Now I gotta look at the gay bestie a little different.

[Damaris]

Do you guys have any gay. I don't know if I have like a close gay friend.

[Rory]

Oh, shocker.

[Damaris]

I know like perimeter friends, like friends of friends, but none.

[Mal]

I got gay friends that I went to. Like, I wouldn't say like we're friend. We went to high school together. We haven't seen each other in years. Like some of them are like full blown women now.

[Julian]

Well, that's. I remember you told different.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, but we was cool in high school. But if I see that.

[Rory]

See now, now you're not.

[Mal]

Cause I don't know that. I don't know this, this, this woman. I don't know her. I know him.

[Rory]

I mean, but you. You rarely know people from high school. We all change.

[Mal]

Yeah, we all change, but not.

[Rory]

We're all different people now. You have to reintroduce yourself to everybody.

[Mal]

Yeah, all I did was grow a beard. He's got a pussy now.

[Julian]

You didn't.

[Rory]

I'm glad that you acknowledged that he has one.

[Mal]

Hell no. If I show you. I was. I didn't get a beard till I was probably like 26.

[Damaris]

Wow.

[Rory]

What a loser.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Mal]

I'm not a hairy guy. Like, it took a long time for me to like grow like real facial hair.

[Damaris]

If you shave, how long would it take to get back to this probably a year.

[Rory]

Damn.

[Julian]

Yeah, Julian cut that off.

[Damaris]

Next week.

[Julian]

Next week it'll be back.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah, but Julian got, like, hairy shoulders and.

[Damaris]

No, I don't.

[Julian]

You haven't put that on me.

[Damaris]

I have a hairy ass. That's a fact. But I don't have, like, a hairy back of shoulders. I'm not that guy.

[Rory]

Are you gonna sue this company 10 years down the line for his hairy ass?

[Mal]

Correct.

[Julian]

For his hairy ass.

[Rory]

He felt uncomfortable in this work environment.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

When they were rest.

[Rory]

When they got out of the suv, you could see his hair.

[Damaris]

When they were explaining the Abyss Visa thing, I was thinking back at London in the Box, I was like, well, Maul did make me watch a. A transgender man sit on a bottle of blue paint and then squirt it from his.

[Mal]

So I did. I made you do that?

[Damaris]

He made me watch and drink tequila.

[Mal]

Yeah, I got you full of tequila and made. Say, turn around and look at this.

[Rory]

Look at it. Look at this. It's on camera. The audio, it's crystal clear.

[Damaris]

Rosewood was in on it.

[Mal]

Turn around and look at Mrs. Rosewood. I made you watch.

[Rory]

Between. I am interested, though. Between this and the Lizzo thing, it could get real nasty for anyone that's been on tour. Just like when you're not doing anything nasty.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Some shit's just not supposed to be publicized. Just shut up, man. This is what comes with the industry.

[Mal]

And then people get mad when the artists don't even fucking, you know, like, entertain them or talk to them outside of getting ready to go on stage.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Then when it's like, you only see the artist when it's time to go on stage. The artist doesn't talk to you in the hotel. Y'all don't go to dinner. Lunch. Then that's a problem. But this is what you got to do. Like, keep. Keep that whole staff away from me. Let them just be at the venue and that's it. Like, that's the only time I want to see these people.

[Rory]

Yeah, you kind of can't win for losing in that situation.

[Mal]

No, you can't, man.

[Rory]

Especially because you're either the. The asshole that doesn't speak to anybody or you get too cool with everyone.

[Mal]

Exactly. Or you get your box ate in front of everybody.

[Rory]

I mean, listen, if it seems like there's an opening in Meg's staff, you.

[Julian]

Know how quick y'all would get my two hour notice if Meg started eating pussy in front of me? Not two weeks, not two days. Two hour notice if Meg started.

[Rory]

You just quit your job.

[Julian]

Just cause to go be. To follow Meg around to watch her eat pussy too.

[Rory]

I mean.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm out of here. I'm let you know now this podcast is no longer. If Meg hires me to just follow her around with a camcorder.

[Rory]

Just a little hiatus from the pod.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm gone. I'm gone. FaceTime me. I'm out of here. That's what Meg is doing in the car. I'm gone.

[Rory]

If you were to get that opportunity, I would make the sacrifice that we would just follow the Meg the Stallion tour in pod. Like when you were.

[Mal]

Oh, man, we now we doing something.

[Rory]

Just so I could like, you know.

[Mal]

Now we reporting to the culture.

[Rory]

Because I could be that washed homeboy. That's like, yo, just tell me what happened.

[Mal]

Let me tell you what happened last night.

[Damaris]

Because that wouldn't play my place.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, man. It's.

[Damaris]

That wouldn't embolden all the fans that think you guys are being paid by Roc Nation. If you're following that.

[Julian]

Yo, we should have a whole lot more money. Y'all getting paid by all them.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for real.

[Rory]

I saw the timeline.

[Damaris]

That'd be great.

[Rory]

Boy, those Roc Nation lawyers are fast. You mean they replied to a lawsuit in a day?

[Mal]

People are stupid.

[Rory]

So. So a lawyer.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rory]

Gotcha. Okay.

[Mal]

Fucking crazy, man.

[Rory]

They're gonna make this. He's gonna disappear.

[Mal]

No, this case. This case is gonna disappear. We're never gonna hear about this again. I promise you. Yeah, it's fucking open.

[Rory]

I think it's probably been settled. And.

[Mal]

Yeah, that shit. Yo, send this. Send the 7500, man.

[Julian]

It's something to me. It's something sinister about me treating you like a friend. Even if we. You are my employer or whatever, but me treating you like a friend because obviously I was comfortable enough to eat pussy in front of you. And you. My image that I already have in the media. You know how much I've been slut shamed. All these things. And you use that to garner. You know what I'm saying? Like to garner attention for yourself or sympathy for yourself. That's sick. Because you did. He chose that instance on purpose. There's a reason why he wrote that. And it's to damage my brand in the same way that other people have damaged it. It's just this mad sinister. Bro.

[Rory]

Do you think Meg doesn't pay her cameraman? That's a headline. No, he knew. He knew exactly what he was doing. Wasn't even a lawsuit. But added that into the lawsuit because that would be. That Long.

[Mal]

Yo, what is this dude doing?

[Rory]

Yeah, we're recording a podcast.

[Mal]

What are you doing? Are you okay? What?

[Damaris]

It was annoying me.

[Rory]

Sorry, we're annoying the podcast right now.

[Damaris]

Was that annoying?

[Julian]

Yes, yes.

[Rory]

In the middle.

[Damaris]

I got up to lint roll.

[Rory]

Are you okay?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm a little hungover. I'm like, in a weird ethereal space right now.

[Mal]

Okay. It's all right.

[Damaris]

Sorry.

[Rory]

I don't even know what that word means, so.

[Mal]

It means he's like.

[Julian]

Like, he's not, like, on Earth.

[Damaris]

I'm out.

[Julian]

Yeah, he's like, out of having.

[Mal]

Out of this world. You just. My bad guys know that. Yeah, that was kind of crazy. But anyway, with this case, it disappeared. We won't hear from this no more. And, Meg, if you are hiring a new camera guy, I am. Great. Alan. What are they called? What are these right here called? I could take one of these.

[Rory]

Already off to a bad start with your interview.

[Mal]

One of these.

[Damaris]

Magic.

[Rory]

Black Magic.

[Julian]

Black Magic.

[Mal]

Black Magic. Oh, that's right. I got three Black Magics, Meg. Let me know, like, if you need a camera guy. I'm there for you.

[Rory]

Streets say you're the fourth.

[Julian]

I was. Yo, you took it out my mouth. You took it. Pause.

[Rory]

But that's what they say.

[Mal]

I'm the fourth. Black Magic?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Who said that?

[Rory]

The streets. I didn't say who said that.

[Mal]

You've never been on the streets. You have a two. You have a year and a half old daughter. You have not been in the streets.

[Rory]

I had to walk to the street to get to my car.

[Mal]

But you didn't hear that. You didn't hear.

[Rory]

On my way to the car, I.

[Mal]

Heard somebody say your maul's Black Magic.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yo, you pod with the black magic.

[Julian]

The black magic.

[Rory]

I'm like, dan.

[Damaris]

How'd you know that was my dad's nickname?

[Rory]

He's the fourth, though.

[Mal]

Your dad's nickname was.

[Rory]

Wait, what did he do?

[Damaris]

My dad played professional basketball in Puerto Rico, in Fajardo. And his nickname was. They called him Negro Mahiko. Black Magic.

[Mal]

Negro Mao.

[Damaris]

Laugh, Rory, go ahead.

[Mal]

How much did he average? You'll pull your dad stat over 30.

[Damaris]

No threes. My dad was a freak.

[Mal]

He averaged 30.

[Damaris]

Yeah, my dad was. My dad was a baller.

[Mal]

You might call a Black Magic. He averaged.

[Damaris]

Yeah. A full ride to Villanova. He didn't go. He had ivory. Every school you could imagine. My dad should have gone to the League Classic. Knee injury, all that. Played professionally and played against Dr. J averaging 30.

[Mal]

You can call somebody.

[Damaris]

Yeah. In the 70s.

[Mal]

That's a fact. Yeah, that's some out in the 70s, like, averaging 50 right now.

[Rory]

Wait, so what is it with you and your pops of My dad is going to the by far the best.

[Damaris]

Athlete in our family. It's not even close. He was a national track athlete. The number two jumper in the nation.

[Mal]

He.

[Damaris]

He triple jumped 48ft, 11 inches in 1969.

[Rory]

All right.

[Damaris]

In a pair of Chuck Taylors, maybe.

[Rory]

I'm rethinking.

[Mal]

Feet ain't been the same.

[Damaris]

Crazy, right?

[Mal]

He probably look like they got hit by 12 max.

[Damaris]

We got LeBron toes.

[Mal]

Yeah, you jump like that.

[Damaris]

Toe. His toes are gnarly.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's over.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

This whole football competition thing we have. Maybe I'm rethinking it. I didn't know what crop he came from.

[Mal]

You didn't know what Lawrence he came out of? Yeah, he came out of Black Magic. I mean, that's Black Magic's boy. That's Black Magic's boy over there. You didn't know that?

[Rory]

Can't even walk around Albany without hearing it.

[Mal]

N. No, they know Black Magic up there. What's wrong with you? That's Black Magic's boy sitting right there.

[Rory]

Why do you want to go to Villanova anyway? Anything.

[Damaris]

Just, you know, a single mom, stayed close to home. He ended up going to Siena where he could. He was more. He was better at track in terms of like. Like he was on the path to the Olympics for track, so gave up a track and. And did basketball in college. And then we're both.

[Rory]

We're both all Mac athletes. That's good to know. We share that.

[Damaris]

Yeah. He's still, like, in the. In the record books.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm so. Am I in the Mac, so. We have a lot in common. We used to smoke Sienna, though.

[Damaris]

Oh, they're not. They're not good.

[Rory]

They were like a cross country school. They never really.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they had a good distance team. He never should have. I mean, that. That being said, if you'd done that path, I wouldn't be here, so.

[Mal]

Well, shout out to Black Magic and his boy. But, yeah, Meg and his boy. Just let us. Let us know. Yeah.

[Damaris]

You his boy.

[Mal]

Yeah. Shout out his Black Magic and his boy. But, yeah, this case. Throw this out. Stop wasting people.

[Rory]

It's also hilarious that he was into magic as a kid.

[Mal]

Yeah. You still see how it follows you.

[Julian]

Damn, you Brown Magic.

[Rory]

Yeah, he misunderstood the nickname. It was like, oh, David Blaine.

[Mal]

No, no, not that type of man.

[Rory]

Card tricks. Yeah, no, I was. I was Slanging it in Puerto Rico, we let's get past these messy lawsuits so we can get to some actual fun. But we do have to talk about this.

[Mal]

That was fun. That was a lot of fun.

[Rory]

Well, there's a Neo one killing.

[Mal]

Emilio. Emilio, get the out of here, man.

[Rory]

And this is why people never come forward Mall.

[Mal]

Yeah, he should have stayed in the behind the curtains with that. But it's okay. We'll work with him. Just leave Meg alone.

[Rory]

If Meg came to me the next day and say, don't ever tell anyone about that, ever. I would say, yes. But I'll never forget it. I would look at right? I'd never say a word. But I'll never forget it.

[Damaris]

I would have said, can't erase my memory.

[Mal]

I'd have like, I'm telling everybody if you don't sit on my face right now.

[Rory]

Yo, Telling everybody, everybody in the workplace, blackmail. Blackmail from black magic.

[Mal]

I'm telling everybody if you don't sit on my face right now, this is gonna be a tick tock everywhere. That's illegal. Yes.

[Rory]

You can't blackmail someone you work with.

[Mal]

Come on, man. I'm black magic.

[Rory]

Blackmail anybody, especially for sexual favors.

[Mal]

If I'm black magic.

[Rory]

That's Harvey Weinstein.

[Mal]

I'm a black male. Do you guys know Harvey?

[Damaris]

Well, you know, he had, like, the whole mangled dick thing. I don't want to do all that again.

[Mal]

How do you know that about Harvey? How you just got that?

[Rory]

Like, it was in the court.

[Damaris]

It's like all. He has, like a up dick, but.

[Rory]

One girl said she thought he was transgender.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it looks like a piece of bubble gum.

[Mal]

That's sick.

[Damaris]

But that being said, I guess he wasn't really raped. Well, I'm not cutting him slack. He wasn't raping anyone. His fetish was just eating people out. He would eat a bunch of pussy.

[Rory]

You know, if you force.

[Damaris]

No, I know someone out.

[Rory]

That's rape. Right?

[Damaris]

No, I get it. You don't. I'm not. I get that. But that's his thing was just to eat people out.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. You know, whatever.

[Mal]

All right.

[Damaris]

That's an angle I'm taking. He was a munch.

[Mal]

It's okay.

[Rory]

I didn't really want to talk about the Harvey shit so we can get past it quick. They did overturn one of his rape charges in New York today.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah?

[Rory]

Yeah, because the judge fucked up and allowed evidence and witnesses that weren't part of the case. And he got off on a technicality like Cosby.

[Mal]

He's still Going to die in jail, so.

[Rory]

As he should. Yeah, I hope he's getting raped to jail.

[Mal]

Nobody want that ass. Who want that ass? Who want Harvey ass? Yeah, in jail they'd just be like, teach a lesson. What was gonna see Harvey walking down the table?

[Damaris]

Maybe just for the story. I don't know, man.

[Mal]

They don't want no Harvey ass, man. They use.

[Julian]

You know that they do use, like rape as like violence. Like they would rape him not for pleasure, but for violence and domination.

[Mal]

Something else to Harvey. They ain't raping Harvey, man. They're gonna make Harvey clean up everything.

[Rory]

Why help the people on PC even.

[Mal]

They can make Harvey clean every bathroom. Yo, clean up this. Clean this up, man, before we you up, man.

[Rory]

A nasty gangrene out the shower. We all get it.

[Mal]

Yeah, before we break your jaw here. Harvey clean all this up.

[Rory]

I was trying to get to this Neo shit.

[Mal]

Did you see what happened to Neo, man?

[Rory]

So his baby mother pulled up on him with the camera open once.

[Mal]

You say baby mother? All right, what happened?

[Rory]

We've already seen for I don't know how many years. Neo has always had issues with ex wives and baby mothers. And this is nothing new. But one of his BMs pulled up and said, you're Diddy Junior. You have him freak offs around my kids and you're endangering the kids and.

[Damaris]

You body slam me. Wow.

[Rory]

Oh, I didn't even see that part. Yeah, then she was body slams and said, tell them why you're really here today.

[Damaris]

You fucking like to have hoes, drugs, weed, alcohol, mushrooms, prostitutes in the house.

[Mal]

While your kids are here O'Neill Living.

[Damaris]

Everyone has asked him to stop, but he will not listen to nobody. This is what's going on. This is the tea. I came over here to help him get these fucking kids because he won't watch these kids.

[Rory]

Wait, so is he watching them or just watching them in the worst environment ever?

[Damaris]

Sounds like the latter. They're in the house, but so are the.

[Mal]

I think this is just a baby mother that's upset that her baby father is obviously. I think he's open with his relationship. I think he has like two girlfriends.

[Rory]

They were just on TMZ walking down the street.

[Mal]

Yeah, so she's probably just mad at that aesthetic around her kids. Two women in the house while my kids are here. You know, her saying freak off, like now again, I don't. I think I know Neo well enough to know that he will not be doing any sexual freak offs in front of his kids. I don't think that's what happened. I just think the fact that he's living with two women, just that aesthetic for a baby mother that's probably still bitter about things between them. She probably doesn't want her kids around.

[Rory]

That type of aesthetic, even if she's not bitter. I see it like that could be a very confusing and weird thing, especially how old are the kids?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I mean, either way, it's a weird situation of having your one and two year old around another woman, let alone two. And maybe you're not in agreeance with that type of lifestyle. So I could see that causing a lot of problems.

[Mal]

Yeah, I could see a baby mother not wanting that for sure. That's not, you know, hard to figure out. But, you know, saying that when you paint it a certain way, you have drugs and mushrooms and alcohol around prostitutes. It's like now you paint it like they're living somewhere where they can get into contact with some of these drugs and alcohol and, you know, possibly harm themselves. Like just painting a certain way makes it come across different. But I just think that it is the fact that he is living a lifestyle that's not your, you know, prototypical lifestyle. And a mother wouldn't want her kids around her ex. And he is living with two women he may deem to be sex workers or escorts.

[Rory]

Can't see this playing well in court. Regardless of what's true and what's not true, as far as alcohol, drugs and endangerment. Like, that's a tough pitch to the court. It's a tough pitch when you're just a single man trying to have some custody. Your kids. Now, you're not only an artist that probably travels. You got, what's it, polyamorous. You're in that type of relationship. Depending on what state you live in, that judge could look at you even crazier. So, yeah, this is just a bad situation.

[Damaris]

So she's saying he started running around with a new circle and it's changed the type of person he's become. She said, quote, they are encouraging his erratic and embarrassing behavior and sex addiction. This is like smoking around a junkie. They encourage the alcohol, the drugs, the outrageous, risky, promiscuous lifestyle that may ultimately expose him to diseases that he can never get rid of. Blah, blah, blah. So this seems like this is a new crop of people in his life that are kind of encouraging this behavior.

[Julian]

Because he just got a divorce from Crystal.

[Rory]

Yeah. So, I mean, he's. I'm sure his two new girlfriends is probably with the shits and probably have A lot of other girls coming through and it probably is freak offs. Some freak offs going in there. And if your kids are there, that's fucked up and you should not be doing that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

I mean it's.

[Rory]

Even if they're in the other room and with a nan. Nah, just.

[Mal]

Nah. It's always just wait.

[Rory]

Wait till the kids aren't there.

[Mal]

Yeah, when the kids aren't there. Like while I have my kids, you know, my girls gotta go shopping or go out of town, something. Go have some fun somewhere, like. But I got my kids this weekend, so.

[Rory]

Yeah, well, we'll see what happens with that entire thing because that just popped up today. Um, did you see this Baby interview he was talking about? There was a known lyricist rapper that called him and wanted to create a fake rap beef. Can we speculate?

[Mal]

Wait, Dababy said a lyricist?

[Rory]

Yes, rapper.

[Julian]

I think he meant lyrical, but yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, called him and wanted to create a fake rap beef with him.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Rory has a theory.

[Rory]

I think it's Joyner. Lucas. That's just my guess. I don't even mean to put that on Joyner's jacket. He may be at home minding his fucking business, sitting there like, what the F. I'm just gonna go with Joyner.

[Mal]

Cause Joyner could paint a crazy story.

[Rory]

Yeah, Joyner's strategic. He's in the know. Him and Baby would. Would be a good battle. Yeah, I. I think both of them are level headed that they could do a fake beef. I'm just gonna go with Joyner. I have no info.

[Mal]

Just join the Lugers.

[Rory]

He seems like the person that would do that. And I don't mean that as an insult because we've seen that in the past with plenty of artists. But if it was Eminem, didn't Jim Jones and Cameron try to fake a beef before they really tried to beef? I don't know if they or Jimmy had said we should do a beef before they actually did.

[Mal]

I'm not sure. I don't know. That sounds like it sounds familiar. Yeah, I think that was a thing, but I don't know. I would say if I had to guess who the lyricist rapper that called him was. Eminem.

[Damaris]

I. I just don't think I would.

[Julian]

And would just shoot. I don't think he would call. I think he would just shoot.

[Rory]

I'm doing that.

[Mal]

I could see him doing that.

[Rory]

Really?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But so many people shoot him all the time and he. Well, I guess he does have two albums dedicated to replying back to everyone. But I don't know, Eminem, the babies. Weird.

[Mal]

Eminem and Britney Spears is pretty weird too.

[Rory]

No, that was right on par for everything that was happening at the time.

[Julian]

Eminem and Mariah.

[Rory]

He went through the whole Grammy seating chart.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I feel like this happens more than we think.

[Mal]

Oh, it definitely does this in relationships.

[Rory]

Oh, for sure. I mean, even. What's crazy, Even though it turned into something else and unfortunately got physical, that Ross and 50 was fake. That was completely fake. Khaled said, ross, you should go diss50 and Ross did it.

[Damaris]

Does that make it fake or does that.

[Rory]

That is a fake beef. It didn't derive from anything that was Khaled going, ross, I think it makes sense for you to believe, but it's.

[Mal]

Fake if I'm in on it.

[Damaris]

Yeah, exactly. That was a one sided.

[Mal]

He wasn't in on that shit. He didn't know that Khaled said, yo, go diss50, and he did it to me.

[Rory]

That's still fake, though. If there's not a real issue or even like a competition shot.

[Mal]

That's corny.

[Rory]

Just. I agree. Out of nowhere, you just fake this.

[Mal]

They both know, like, yeah, now we gonna do this. And then you say that and then you drop your response.

[Rory]

Still think it's a degree of fake if someone tells me, yo, just go shoot at them to try to help your career. I mean, that says some to me.

[Mal]

Yeah, but again, yes, you're right. But to me, 50 would have to have been in on that on that call. He would have to be cc'd on that email to be like, all right, let's do this. You know what I'm saying? Cause if not. Cause then if I don't know if I'm 50 and I don't know that it's fake, it turns real.

[Rory]

It did.

[Mal]

This is what I'm saying. So I don't, you know, very real. I didn't know that y'all was having a fucking meeting. And this is something that y'all wanted to create and y'all gotta let me in on that so I could then beef for fake. You know what I'm saying? Like, but I'm beefing for real now.

[Rory]

Everyone forgets Khaled was not as positive as we all look at him now.

[Mal]

Oh, I mean, the rebrand is amazing.

[Rory]

He was. He was messy as.

[Mal]

Yeah, the rebrand is great.

[Damaris]

It slips out every once in a while. I'm gonna bring up that whole incident with him and Tyler, but it's slight. It cuts through.

[Mal]

No, that wasn't. That wasn't that was. That was something.

[Damaris]

Some hater.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was some hate. That was like, hate at the highest form. We kind of just like, forgot about that, too.

[Rory]

We did, because he kept up with the positive.

[Mal]

God did once a say that. You like true?

[Rory]

Yeah. Well, no, you know what? It was Roc Nation lawyers.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Brainwashed us all.

[Damaris]

You mean your lawyer.

[Rory]

No. Yeah, my Schaefer. Schaefer's behind all this. Yo, everyone point at Schaefer when you say these. These diabolical Roc Nation lawyers. It's all Schaefer behind all this.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Just go to last lap. He's sitting in the corner.

[Mal]

And I've never seen you and Shaffer in the same room, so.

[Rory]

I've been in the same room with Schaefer a million. I've only seen you and Schaefer sitting at the same table.

[Mal]

I've never seen it, is what I'm saying. I just didn't see it. I'm like Emilio Garcia now. I didn't.

[Rory]

I wasn't even at the fight.

[Mal]

He ain't see shit. He heard it. Hey, you heard that Mac and cheese in the back seat? Who's cooking back there?

[Rory]

Thought he was on our way to get food.

[Mal]

We ate already. I thought we just left the restaurant.

[Damaris]

Hibashi.

[Rory]

Anyways, more rap. Beef Quavo, Chris Brown, Guavo.

[Julian]

Sorry. That will always be funny.

[Rory]

Where do we stand with this? I give.

[Mal]

I started this.

[Rory]

You started this.

[Mal]

No, you started this.

[Damaris]

That was your clip mall.

[Julian]

They were already beefing.

[Mal]

You started this, bro.

[Rory]

Okay? They were already beef. Beefing about woman shit.

[Mal]

And Chris ain't like that shit.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Mal]

You started this shit.

[Rory]

All right. I hated the first Quavo response. I liked the Chris reply. I give both these gentlemen credit because they are replying quicker than two Elite.

[Damaris]

They're on, like, round five.

[Rory]

Yeah. I have to give them credit. The Quavo reply, it's cool. It was better than the other one. He got takeoff vocals, which I thought was creative, but, I mean, it's still. It's weird because he's not like that lyrical of a guy. It's an odd beef. It's the same way I asked, yo, how is the Weeknd future and all these other guys gonna reply to Drake? Cause I don't really know if I want to hear that shit. That's how I feel on the Quavo side. I can't wait for Chris to rap again. Even though he said that shit doesn't warrant a reply, I still feel like it does. It was Better than the other one. You replied to. The worst diss record I'd ever heard in my life. Yeah, you gotta reply to this one.

[Mal]

I'm just. Because, you know, the things that are being said now at this point, this is going somewhere else.

[Rory]

Oh, it was already going somewhere else.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But no, now it's like you start saying, I got a bullet with your name. Once you say things like that. Now you're. You know, those are certain words that you gotta stand behind if you say that. You gotta expect that when this person sees you, they're thinking that you have a bullet with their name on it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So now we're talking about a different type of energy that we're introducing into this. Into this thing, which, you know, I don't want to see it. Like, I don't want to see Quavo. Anything happen to Quavo or Chris Brown. Like, I don't. I don't want to wake up and. And read that type of news. So it's like, you know, let's stop here, because I see where it's going, like, so let's stop. No more records, please. Um. Because I don't want anything to happen to either one of these gentlemen. But it's hard not to think, you know, that something is not going to happen. I feel like something is definitely going to happen when these two cross paths. Hopefully they just don't run into each other.

[Rory]

I feel like it's inevitable for them to run into each other. And, of course, you guys are right that I'm not meaning the streets. I don't think they're going to Treetop Block to run into each other. They're going to run into each other at Highlight Room or some club or some. Somewhere on Sunset. And of course, shootings happen there all the time, but I don't think that's fucking necessary.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

For Quavo and Chris Brown to be shooting at each other on Sunset, like, at all.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't. I don't care what was said. Like, those two. That's why I said, if everyone has security, like, we're not doing that tonight. Yeah, nobody's shooting each other. That's fucking crazy. Nobody in anyone's crew should shoot each other.

[Mal]

Like. Well, no, they shouldn't, but we know how that goes. There's somebody that's always waiting to get a rep. Somebody that's waiting to show. Yo, I'm down. I'm really. I'm ready to. I'm. I'm ready to take it there whenever it got to go. There. You always have those, unfortunately, around in the environment, and that's how things quickly turn into something else.

[Rory]

So, man, we are. We already, unfortunately saw what Quavo just went through. Chris Brown is a fucking superstar. Nobody needs to do any of that. If y'all. If y'all really feel away, two of y'all fight, and I commend both y'all. Winner or loser, y'all squared up.

[Mal]

I respect it. There's nothing wrong with a good basketball. A good fit, a good, good fade.

[Rory]

Anybody that squares up with Chris Brown, I give him respect.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm not mad at that. I hope it just stays that, though, is what I'm saying. I just hope it stays there. But, yeah, I don't want to hear no more records from these two. About these two.

[Rory]

Yeah, I do want to hear Chris Brown rap more. That's all. I would like more.

[Mal]

Yes, but not these type of. Not Quavo disregards.

[Rory]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying just. Just rap.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I would like an alchemist and Chris Brown tape.

[Mal]

Alchemist.

[Rory]

Like, I would like a premiered Chris Brown tape.

[Mal]

No, you wouldn't.

[Rory]

Why?

[Mal]

No, you wouldn't.

[Rory]

Him rapping and singing all that type of.

[Mal]

Chris Brown rapping on a premiere beat.

[Rory]

Yeah. What would be wrong with that? And singing. I don't think you've heard D'Angelo sing on Premiere Beats and you've like.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I don't think you would. D'Angelo was not rapping, though.

[Rory]

We've heard people rap and sing on preem beats.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I don't.

[Rory]

Chris can do both really well.

[Mal]

You want to hear that?

[Rory]

Yeah, I definitely do.

[Mal]

All right.

[Rory]

What? All right. I'd rather that than the same mustard beat or the same shit that I've heard a million times that Chris.

[Mal]

So, yeah, I'm just saying Prem's beats are very specific and very. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if I want to hear Chris on a premiere beat, is what I'm saying.

[Rory]

I just think this is a good time for Chris to widen his horizons since everyone has liked his raps.

[Mal]

Oh, no, for sure. I get it. But I agree with that. He should rap more because he's. He's really good at it. Surprisingly, he's really good at it.

[Rory]

Yeah, just. I don't know. Same shit over and over. Moving on, though, back to this AI shit. Tupac's estate threatens Drake with illegal action over the Tailor Made freestyle. Would you have to be called to court as a character witness? Are you a little concerned about this entire thing. They may pull up the me clip of you giving a snippet saying something Tailor made is on its way. You could have worn the estate. I feel like. Isn't that a crime if you know a crime happened but didn't go to the authorities?

[Mal]

Well, first of all, I said something that's more terrible.

[Rory]

You're an accessory before the fact.

[Damaris]

Mal tweeted Hail Mary. That's true right before.

[Mal]

I never tweeted that in my life.

[Rory]

But you drink in Hennessy and have enemies, though.

[Mal]

This don't seem. This doesn't seem odd to you though.

[Rory]

How so? Doesn't seem hot at all.

[Mal]

Is this is the Tailor Made Freestyle on dsps?

[Damaris]

No, but it's still using someone's likeness.

[Mal]

Is Drake making any money from this?

[Damaris]

It's not about. It's about someone's likeness.

[Mal]

But what is the legal action?

[Rory]

Well, it's just a cease and desist. You can ask someone to take something down. Is it still on his Instagram?

[Damaris]

I'm. That's. That's the words. Because to Mall's point, like, it's out there. It's on the Internet. It's in the ether. What? You can't. What the cnd. It would. I guess what it could do is force Drake and his team to strip it. Like, they would have to scrub it. Like when real leaks happen and artists want to protect their music, they scrub every, like link, every YouTube link, SoundCloud link or anything. I guess that's what would happen. But it's. I mean, it's out there. They would always exist.

[Rory]

Is this shit still. Pardon my broken phone.

[Mal]

See, this is turning into. This is turn now. This whole thing is turning into something else. Now. I don't know if you notice it or not, but this whole battle. Not battle thing is turning into something else.

[Rory]

This shit is still on his Instagram. You can send a cease and desist for someone to take something down off their Instagram for using your likeness. That's. It's not a lawsuit the way y'all are saying, like, he's gonna owe money there. It appears they just want him to take it down.

[Mal]

If I dress up like Tupac on my Instagram and start rapping like Pac, but it's my lyrics. I gotta take that down.

[Rory]

I don't know if they own the, like. What do you mean by dress? They don't. I doubt they like this.

[Mal]

If I have my bandana on and I have my leather vest on.

[Rory]

No, then Tupac. I mean, then Ja Rule for three albums Wouldn't be able to put them out. But he's so stupid. I don't know if the likeness is a bandana. Like, I'm not a lawyer, but I feel like that would be way harder to.

[Mal]

No, I'm talking about if I started rapping. Like, I can. I can imitate PAC really well.

[Rory]

I don't know that that would be a good question. I'm not sure what that would do, but I can totally see someone sending a cease and desist. It's just sending a cease and desist right now. I could send a cease and desist to someone reposting my photo with a headline. Doesn't mean it's gonna go through.

[Julian]

So you think that they're weird for not wanting.

[Rory]

Anyone can send a cease and desist.

[Julian]

You think they're weird for not wanting their loved one's voice to be used without their permission? You think that that's weird?

[Mal]

I'm not saying it's weird. I'm just saying that this whole thing. Because what if in the world the cease and desist was sent publicly before it was sent to the actual artist? Like, what if the artist didn't know about the cease and desist until it was, like, on the Internet?

[Julian]

No, a cease and desist is, hey, you did something with our likeness. Take it down.

[Mal]

I know what a cease and desist is. I'm saying what if the cease and desist was made public before me as the artist even knew about it?

[Rory]

I think you're alluding.

[Mal]

Is that not saying anything? Does that not like painting a narrative?

[Damaris]

Oh, you're saying Drake was unaware and it became.

[Mal]

I'm saying what if he was.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Rory]

I'm fully under the impression that Kendrick's team was behind sending the C and D. If no one will say it, I think it was a good move.

[Mal]

To send a cease and desist.

[Rory]

I don't care if a cease and desist was never sent. If we're playing trolling games and I'm Kendrick Lamar and I have the connections that I have as well. Yeah, I could totally see Kendrick, Especially when an Interscope ex. Interscope employee. That was huge. Owns pac's likeness. And I'm sure Kendrick has somewhat of a relationship with him. I'm speculating. I don't want to put this on his jacket. Yeah, I could see him doing that shit. Putting this in the headlines to try to try to kill some of the momentum. I haven't replied yet. Drake looks a little weird because there's so many Tupac Fans out there, we all know the original Tupac stands are the craziest. Yeah, it. It makes Drake look a little weird in the headlines.

[Mal]

And.

[Damaris]

And Rory mentioned it's a good move. Rory mentioned it. But just for some clarity, Tupac's mother was the sole proprietor of his estate until she passed in. And then she then, in her will gave it to Tom Wally, who is a. Wasn't an exec at Interscope and he's the current sole proprietor of the estate.

[Rory]

He signed Pac. His daughter was a huge fan and said, you need to sign Tupac.

[Damaris]

But there I found an article from 2022 that Tupac's sister is not pleased with how he's handling the estate. She's claimed that he's embezzling millions and is refusing to show key financial documents to her and the rest of the family, of course.

[Rory]

Guys, we know for a fact Kendrick Lamar had an unreleased Tupac interview on top of Butterfly and pretended like he was talking to Tupac throughout the entire album. It was the whole interlude. It was the point of. To pimp a butterfly to some degree in the story. To say Kendrick Lamar does not have a relationship with the Tupac estate is insane.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I don't think it's far fetched to say even if Kendrick did not reach out to them, there is a relationship there and they are on a side. To put this in the headlines is a great fucking move. The same way I'm being consistent. I thought Drake doing that as a troll was a great fucking move. I can't be mad at Kendrick doing that. I'd love for him to fucking rap. I think Drake gets more grace with these trolls because he rapped first. He did push ups. But if Kendrick's trying to buy himself some time. Yeah, this, this makes that troll look a little goofy. If it appears like Tupac's family is upset because the average fan doesn't know who has Tupac's estate.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

All this reads, if you're just a fan, is, yo, Drake went behind Tupac's family's back and they're upset about it. That's not cool. That's more. That's how it reads.

[Damaris]

That's not.

[Rory]

Am I wrong?

[Mal]

Yeah, that's how it reads. But that's how they wanted to read too.

[Rory]

I know. So you don't. You don't think that that would be a good move.

[Mal]

Drake disrespected the Tupac estate.

[Rory]

Of course, the west coast versus the.

[Mal]

Light skin from Canada is crazy.

[Rory]

As an American, I was offended.

[Mal]

This shit is crazy, man. All this because Kendrick won't rap.

[Rory]

But we know Drake has done strategic moves. People with this type of power. I'm not saying he invented these type of moves.

[Mal]

Listen, I'm not saying. I'm not saying he. Who made moves? Who didn't? I'm just saying we don't know. If Kendrick had dropped the record, this wouldn't even have happened.

[Rory]

True.

[Mal]

So let's blame Kendrick Lamar for this.

[Rory]

You're victim blaming.

[Mal]

No, I'm just pointing out. I'm just looking at the scoreboard. I'm just pointing out the obvious. But I mean, it's just weird that.

[Damaris]

They'Re going to call you Dick Riding again, by the way, just for the.

[Mal]

I don't care about that shit. I'll smack a nigga in their face. But yeah, I just think that it's to a point now where it's just like this whole battle shit is like, you know, who cares? I don't even care if Kendrick responds anymore. It's like at this point, it's like, whatever, man.

[Rory]

I still. I still care.

[Damaris]

I care.

[Mal]

I don't give a. Yeah, but a.

[Rory]

Lot of the allures has passed a bit. But at the same time, if Kendrick does reply in 6 months with an album and it's on there, I'm gonna.

[Mal]

Listen, man, that I'm mad we never get in the Ross and Drake record again. That's what I'm mad at.

[Julian]

I'm sure. I'm sure we'll get one eventually.

[Mal]

It's not happening.

[Damaris]

I just want to hear. I want to hear Drake's next diss. I'm not. I'm not really. Kendrick's is. Whatever. I want to hear the next one Drake has.

[Mal]

Why?

[Damaris]

Because I know it's the one and I want to hear the one he Messy messy boo. I want to hear the messiest record he has. I know you know it, so I want to hear it.

[Mal]

I don't know shit. I'm just. I'm just looking at the scoreboard, laughing. Like the narratives that are being painted now that this whole thing is just like. I thought this was a rap battle. Like, how did it turn into all of this shit? But whatever.

[Rory]

I mean, that's what comes with it, though.

[Mal]

No, it's not. We've seen rap battles, and this did not come with it.

[Rory]

I know times have changed. That's why I thought it was cool that Drake adapted to the times with the AI shit. And unfortunately, this messy shit is part of rap battles now.

[Julian]

But there's no way it Changed.

[Rory]

It changed when the Internet started making all those memes about Meek Mill. That is when the rap battle shit completely had a fork in the road and shifted.

[Mal]

I mean, but to me, it's everything.

[Rory]

Plus the diss record now. And this is a part of that.

[Mal]

Yeah, but to me, in this scenario, Drake was the only one that was keeping hip hop. He's actually rapping. He only started the troll meme and shit. Once the raw shit happened, that's when he start posting memes and shit like that. Like, that's when that happened. Before that he was rapping, he put a record out. Okay, so this trolling meme shit came into play after he was trolling me and. Because that's what we doing. Okay.

[Rory]

The only thing Drake has made moves behind the scenes or done headline shit in rap beef as well.

[Mal]

I'm not saying he hasn't, but I'm just saying in this situation with Kendrick Lamar, Drake was rapping. He put out a record. Everybody said he was on the clock. Once the. Like, that dropped. Couple weeks later, he dropped the record. Then in waiting for Kendrick's response. Cause he knew Kendrick has a record, has records. He was like, okay, I'm gonna antagonize and poke the bear a little more. Yo, the west coast, is they looking at you funny? The ones that crowned you the new king? Like, this is how they feeling about you?

[Rory]

No, I get it. I guess I'm trying to figure out what you mean by Drake is the only one keeping it hip hop. Like, I'm not mad. I'm fair. But the moves, Kendrick. We don't even know if Kendrick's behind this. But I'm gonna speculate and say he is because of his relationship with that family.

[Mal]

But we know that Kendrick is not related and Interscope. Yeah, there you go.

[Rory]

But even then, you could say the same about Drake. After Push put out that record. Not even the barber chair shit that we bring up all the time. When he was on Instagram cleaning up that photo of him giving context and like all the other shit he was doing behind the scenes, he was doing a lot of the same shit Kendrick is doing right now and had not replied back to Push. I think it's all part of it, and I don't condemn Drake for doing that part. It's all part of it. He was buying himself some time after that. Push it. Yes, he replied about the photo. We know he was doing shit behind the scenes that J. Prince had to stop. Like, we know Drake has had similar behavior, which is okay.

[Mal]

Drake was doing Shit behind the scenes that J. Prince had to stop or. Yeah, Prince stop a record because he felt like it was things set in.

[Rory]

That record that everything that had to do with that record had to do with shit behind the scenes.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's still rapping, though. He was still. Drake was still ready to rap. I'm saying like before.

[Rory]

Before he rapped, he bought Tom and was replying on Instagram about a photo. Like he didn't. He didn't rap. He replied with a photo before he rapped.

[Julian]

Well, Drake. Drake is rapping this round. Not talking about pushes around this round. Drake is rapping. The only thing I'll say is that you can't. Drake can't complain about the way that this is going with. Even if Kendrick is involved in this cnd, you can't. You bought the Internet into this doing Internet, so you can't complain that.

[Mal]

But Drake hasn't said anything.

[Rory]

I don't think Drake is upset about it.

[Mal]

I'm laughing at the way the narrative has changed now. Cause now it went from a battle to, you know, the West Coast. Like, Drake disrespected the West Coast. That's the narrative that's now being pushed.

[Julian]

But okay. And I get that Drake, to me is crazy. He introduced that narrative, though, how you bought the. You bought other people into this battle.

[Rory]

That was.

[Julian]

He bought other people. I get what you're saying. I'm not saying that I disagree, but I'm saying when you bring other people into it, you can't bring mad that people have an opinion. You bought the west coast into this. You made it a West coast theme. The west coast wasn't fucking with you. You made it a West Coast.

[Mal]

Kendrick is Kendrick not the crowned king of the West Coast?

[Rory]

I would say so, sure.

[Mal]

So why so as a creative. Because now my creative flow is there.

[Julian]

No, you can do that.

[Mal]

I'm thinking of clever ways to kind of get this dude. Like, yo, what's up? What we doing? Yo, the west coast is looking at you funny. Like you disappointing the ones before you. Pac had battles that unfortunately turned into something else. Snoop crowned you the King of the west at the House of Blues. Like that's part of Kendrick's story.

[Julian]

Yeah, nobody. Nobody ever said the west coast was in it.

[Mal]

Once Kendrick went at Drake, the West coast was in it.

[Julian]

Agreed.

[Mal]

Agree. So how was Drake bringing the west coast into this?

[Rory]

Keep. Keep that up. This is why I'm saying Kendrick is doing something very similar to Drake. And I think it's also fine. He didn't reply to push, push, put that shit out. And like, the next day, Drake put this up on his Instagram. I'm not gonna read the entire thing. But instead of rapping back, he said, I know everyone is enjoying the circus, but I want to clarify this image in question. This was not from a clothing brand shoot or my music career. This is a picture from 2007, time in my life when I was an actor and I was working on a project that was about young black actors struggling to get roles, being stereotyped and typecast. I won't continue on.

[Mal]

So he was supposed to put that in bars.

[Rory]

To me, it's very similar the way. No, no, let me finish the way. Now the narrative has shifted where Drake has looked at a little weird and that is more of a circus. And downplaying something more serious being Tupac's legacy and Tupac's estate is the same move. How do you not see the comparables there? Not the same somebody, somebody wrapped. And then you replied with saying, well, this is a little up and you're taking it a little further and misrepresenting what's happening now, like you should. It wasn't that funny. This is a circus now you took Tupac is not funny anymore.

[Mal]

No, it's not the same thing. If the company that took this photo and whatever show this was for reached out to Pusha and said, yo, we send the cease assist. Take this image off your. That's different.

[Rory]

The same people.

[Mal]

Drake is explaining why he was in this fucking blackface picture as a kid. If he decides to go on social media and explain what this is, how is that the same as getting a Tupac estate to send a cease and desist for a fucking freestyle?

[Rory]

I'm saying the response to both has been similar because now all the fans are saying Drake has made a mockery, a circus out of this entire thing using Tupac's legacy. And Drake in that reply was saying, push a T. You are making a circus out of a very serious issue that I was trying to portray here. It's very similar, in my opinion.

[Mal]

Okay, that's all.

[Rory]

And I think both are fine in their strategy. This is how you got to do rap beef now. I just wish Kendrick could rap, that's all. To me, to me, Drake is clearly winning.

[Mal]

We, we on the same page there. We. I wish Kendrick would rap too, but.

[Rory]

Anyways, I'm just glad Billie Eilish is touching herself.

[Damaris]

Should we lighten the mood, self love?

[Rory]

Oh, the mood is light. I thought the CND was hilarious.

[Damaris]

It's smart.

[Rory]

It wasn't. It was a good move.

[Damaris]

A smart move.

[Mal]

You know what else is a smart move?

[Rory]

Rapping.

[Damaris]

We agree we want this every time. Continue.

[Rory]

But anyways.

[Julian]

Billie Eilish Glock took big T shirt.

[Rory]

Why. Why does she have to tell us she's masturbating?

[Damaris]

I think she's really trying her best to drop that whole like I'm a tomboy dude image. So she's like, I'm a woman. I touch myself.

[Rory]

But I feel like the tomboy. They probably touch themselves too. I really just don't need an adult to tell me that they touch themselves.

[Mal]

Yeah. I could have did without that.

[Damaris]

It's empowering.

[Julian]

You would have never known about it if it didn't become like a blog bit. It's a Rolling Stone interview. Unless she.

[Mal]

Yeah, but she's. Something she said in an interview.

[Julian]

Yeah. Do you read Billie Eilish interviews?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Because you don't care about Billie Eilish. Exactly.

[Rory]

But the people being of other people.

[Mal]

I don't care about her touching herself.

[Julian]

But the people who do care about her and who are a fan of her. Of her. I'm sure that information. I'm sure they do. Fans care about a bunch of dumb.

[Mal]

A little weird.

[Rory]

I think they're just trying to push the sexual agenda and the porn agenda. That's what I think's happening. Well, it's Rolling Stone. You talk about music.

[Julian]

It's. We just have the. The clip.

[Mal]

Remember that thing called music?

[Julian]

We just have the. The clip of it. But I think the conversation was about self love or how do you. And building your self confidence. And I think she said that this was an example.

[Rory]

I'm glad that she's doing that. I honestly don't care too much.

[Mal]

She couldn't say she hit the gym like.

[Rory]

Like every day.

[Julian]

Why would she do that? That's not what she do.

[Rory]

Yeah. If she just be flicking the bean and getting her DJ on then she's good.

[Damaris]

Did she get in the car with Meg?

[Rory]

That as well.

[Mal]

That's a great song waiting to happen.

[Rory]

Billy. Aisha.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's a great record.

[Rory]

I really only wanted to talk about that to get to the Yeezy porn announcement to feel that's.

[Damaris]

I can't.

[Julian]

I can't.

[Rory]

I can't defend him.

[Mal]

That's your savior.

[Damaris]

I think he'd smoke that pause. Like not as a porn star. But Kanye has like admitted. Has a crippling porn addiction.

[Rory]

Yes. He. He definitely is one of the horniest rappers since Kanye inception of rapid and.

[Mal]

I think he could get some help.

[Damaris]

I think if he con. If he could convince. I think he could convince some really good looking women to join his porn like thing. Yeah, it's like whatever he's creating gives him some socks and shoes and on camera, I bet you he'll get some of the most fired women on Instagram to start eating each other out.

[Mal]

All this Sunday service that he was doing porn.

[Rory]

I don't need to tell you guys that Kanye west is a hypocrite. I mean, I know you guys excuse that is. He's a genius. And listen, we've gotten great music out of his hypocrisy, but he screamed at all of us and denounced all his friends because we wouldn't join him in his custody battle that we knew nothing about. We couldn't go get his kids and he's mad at us for that. This was him 15 months ago. The use of porn destroyed my family. But Jesus will heal everything. Remove any and all forms of pornography from Twitter and every platform. Pornography is the product of pedophilia. When grown men look at porn, they're watching someone's daughter relive trauma for money. Now, what? You could disagree with that, but that's cool. You have yelled at us about not getting your kids and it was our fault for not speaking up. Your family was destroyed. It was us and porn that ruined your family. And now you want us to buy your porn. Yeah, Kanye is full of.

[Damaris]

Can't beat him. Join him.

[Mal]

Yeah, once you put YZY on it, it makes everything okay.

[Rory]

You know, it's like, what, he changed the. The style of the Trump hat. It's like, it's different now.

[Mal]

It's different now.

[Rory]

It means something.

[Mal]

Yeah, easy porn is, is, is.

[Rory]

Is approved by somebody wants to start a porn company. Have a blast. I Snoop and Lloyd Banks, who kid all them had crazy DVDs where you could watch a chick get fucked to a Lloyd Banks record. More power to you. Yeah, Ty lost my virginity. But don't scream and denounce your close friends to this day. Like literally in that, that awful interview with Justin Leboy, he's talking about people that did not stick up for him when he was saying, yo, I talked to Push Push, did not use his platform to get my kids back. You're also saying porn ruin your family. And now you're using your platform for the very thing that you said ruined your family.

[Julian]

It's about. It's gonna ruin more. He has a porn addict.

[Mal]

He also was mad at the way Kim was dressing and now look at the way his wife is dressing.

[Rory]

Dressing has been a hypocrite forever. But I'm just.

[Damaris]

He. He said he. He's been there has. There's not much information on this, rather beyond the headline, but I guess he's been talking to Stormy, Daniel's ex husband, Mike Moss, discussing leading the new venture. So he already found his right hand guy. I'm excited.

[Julian]

He love a freaky white. No, that's Y.

[Mal]

King.

[Damaris]

Who's y'all?

[Mal]

That's Yalls King. I love Kanye.

[Damaris]

It's a different meaning a bear, which.

[Rory]

Is kind of a little bit of a pedophile move.

[Mal]

But how's that.

[Rory]

I mean, now in context, the. The Kanye west bear is a little weird.

[Mal]

It's a little gay.

[Damaris]

How's that gay?

[Rory]

I was gonna go gay. I was gonna go more a little pedo.

[Mal]

But you go pedal. I'm going gay.

[Damaris]

All right.

[Rory]

Hand in hand.

[Mal]

Sometimes you go the strong side. I go to the weak side.

[Rory]

Talk about strong side.

[Damaris]

Well, that's exciting.

[Rory]

Oh, it's so great that they ended racism. Pray for Kanye football.

[Mal]

He needs. He needs help. He needs.

[Rory]

He does.

[Mal]

He needs. You know, he needs to just sit and talk through his traumas and because, you know, somebody as popular, as famous, as creative as he is with the mental issues that he obviously has is a recipe for something eventually bad to happen. So, you know, I just think that he needs to get the proper help. Surround yourself with the right people and yeah, just take care of yourself, man. Like, just go disappear for a while and just get your. Get your mental together, man. It's all right. We still love you. You know, you've created some great things in this. In this. In the world. You've given us great things, but, you know, those things can be diminished and start to look a little tarnished by future moves. They just start to look a little funny. I. E. The porn thing. Now after you said porn destroys families and all of this, it's like now people just don't know what. What is what. So.

[Rory]

And we'll. We'll get to the. The whole Tick Tock thing and everything on Patreon later. But he rightfully so is saying Tick Tock was awful for. For kids. And you know how easy it is to access porn already. And you got five kids. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't know. I.

[Rory]

Is what it is. But isn't Justin La Boyd. Isn't that your man's?

[Damaris]

That is your man.

[Mal]

I've never met him a day in my life.

[Rory]

Oh, okay.

[Mal]

I Don't know why I thought man's on me.

[Rory]

I thought somebody I know, that's their man, never me.

[Julian]

You know how dangerous it could be just to throw mans on somebody? Like, don't throw mans on me.

[Rory]

That's happened.

[Mal]

You thought that was my man's?

[Rory]

I thought it was somebody we knew that was, like, cool with him. Not to say that's bad. I don't know if he's a bad person. I just think he's a bad interview.

[Mal]

I'm not saying. I just never met him, so that can't be my man.

[Rory]

Wow.

[Mal]

So take this time to send prayers and condolences to Boss and his family.

[Rory]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

On the loss of his mom. So prayers to Boss. Strength to you and the family. Condolences on losing your mom.

[Rory]

Love to EB as well.

[Mal]

Shout out to E. Prayers to Eve as well. And everybody over there at Dreamville right now, just, you know, on the loss of Boss's mom. Sending love and light to them also. Rest in peace to Atlanta legend Rico Wade.

[Rory]

Yeah, we didn't get into that last Saturday.

[Mal]

One of the pioneers of Atlanta, hip hop, organized noised. If you don't know who Rico Wade is, I don't know what you've been doing with your ears and your brain these last 30 years.

[Rory]

But one of the greatest producers of.

[Mal]

All time, one of the greatest producers, one of the greatest architects in hip hop, gave us, you know, incredible music, incredible artists like Outkast, Goody Mob, you know, tlc, Shout out to the Dungeon, you know, and prayers to the Wade family on the death of. And the loss of Rico Wade.

[Rory]

Yeah, Future as well. That's his cousin.

[Mal]

Yeah. Had a. Had a. Had a lot. Lot to do with the early, early future stuff, you know, the whole dungeon team. Organized noise, man. Rico Wade is somebody that's given us a. A lifetime of just great music and great talent. So definitely one of the architects that we lost. And anytime we lose people like that, it does something to the fabric of. Of the culture and the music. So prayers to Rico Wade and his family.

[Rory]

Absolutely. Guess we get the voicemails.

[Damaris]

Let's do it.

[Mal]

You've got mail.

[Damaris]

Let's do it.

[Mal]

What's up?

[E]

Rory Maul? Damaris. Julian. I'm Duke. I'm from Baton Rouge. I just need some friendship advice. So quick backstory. I got two friends that are. They're like brothers to me, where, you know, we all hang out all the time. And we grew up together and shit. And one of my buddies, he was dating this girl for about three Years. And they broke up. They broke up a year ago. But come to find out, I went to a wedding this weekend and his ex girlfriend was telling me that our other friend was hitting her up at like midnight. Shit, after they broke up. And I'm like, God damn. I don't know what to fucking do. I don't know if I should tell my friend, you know, hey, look, he's kind of being slimy, like, what the fuck? And so I don't know if I should just stay out of it. It happened a year ago, but I mean, it's just not coming to light, you know? And I would. I feel like I would want somebody to tell me that because I wouldn't want somebody like that around me. And I. I look at my. My friend completely different after, you know, doing some like that. So I. I don't know what I should do. If I should just mind my business, which I'm cool with doing usually, you know, this type of doesn't bother me. But since being that it's a close friend and I don't really know what to do, so. So any insight would be helpful, love.

[Rory]

You gotta tell him, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah, I would.

[Rory]

I think that's pretty simple. That's not just minding your business. You gotta tell him that type of thing.

[Julian]

But they're both his friend, though. That's the thing. It ain't like just one of them is his. They are both his friends.

[Rory]

Yeah, but if. If I know my friend could do that to like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you gotta talk first to the friend that did it. I would at least like, not press him about it. Be like, man, what the. Like, what are you doing? And then, yeah, tell the. The victim, I guess you would call.

[Rory]

Because then you're just gonna get caught up in the. If you don't tell anyone because it'll come to light at some point and.

[Mal]

Gotta cover your ass at all times. So.

[Rory]

Yes, that one's kind of easy. I don't know if I have like a deep dive on that one.

[Damaris]

Would you have them come together, do the same time, or would you do this one on one?

[Rory]

One on one, for sure. That'd be a weird pow wow that. Because at that point now you're really not minding your business. And now you're like, but that's really making it yours.

[Mal]

That's a tricky. Such a. Like a. Cause I don't know if I told y'all the story about friend of mine growing up, like, grew up together. I saw his girlfriend in the club one night making out with another guy. I let her know that I saw her. Like, I walked up to her. So I. Cause I was like, damn, should I just peep it and just tell my homeboy? But then I'm like, if she don't see me, she could always be like, yo, that wasn't me. So I was like, okay. Walked up to her, let her know I see I saw her. I was like, yo, you know, I'm telling homie, like, that's it's my man. Like, we grew up together since we was 10.

[Julian]

I might have popped on you. If I'm over here cheating, minding my business, you coming to me like, yo, you know I'm telling on you.

[Mal]

You for my man that's 16 years old.

[Rory]

What does mall owe her?

[Julian]

No, I didn't say you wrong for telling. I'm saying, don't come up to me while I'm getting my groove. I'm ruined my groove.

[Mal]

I'm letting you know. So you can't be like, nah, that wasn't me. No, I saw you, you. I approached you and I'll let you know. I'm telling homie. That's my man. Since I was 10 years old. Told him, long story short, they both stopped talking to me. Married with kids now.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Julian]

That's why you should mind your business.

[Mal]

Oh, no, now I mind my business. You know how many of my homeboys girlfriends I've seen cheating since then?

[Julian]

Cause, you know, I mean, you know.

[Mal]

And I've never said shit.

[Julian]

And a lot of people be in open relationships. You don't know a lot of.

[Mal]

No, they were not in an open relationship.

[Julian]

She could have been getting her get back.

[Mal]

It could have been. They were not an open relationship. But they both stopped talking to me. And they're both married with kids.

[Rory]

How did this then stop talking process happen? Like, did you ever get a real reason why they both.

[Mal]

We had a talk. I told him and he called her in front of me. They was talking, yelling back and forth, whatever, whatever. And then obviously, you know, he went to her house, whatever they did whatever they did. And they both stopped talking to me and got married and got kids now.

[Julian]

Coochie fire.

[Mal]

He's a sucker. The nigga's a clown.

[Damaris]

Are you cool with him.

[Mal]

Smack that so hard if I see him like, no.

[Julian]

Why are you gonna smack him? Because he's not talking to you.

[Mal]

How you cut off since you was 10 years old? This go suck another dick and line you up. Who gonna be one of the first you call? Yo, we gotta go see this it would have been me. Now all of a sudden, you cut me off. Because this could suck and lick your ass and turn you out. And now you. You don't. Now you don't know me. You a clown. A clown like that, they need to clip their nuts and throw them on the island somewhere.

[Rory]

You want to go back with this girl and work that out, that's. That's his business.

[Mal]

But to cut me off?

[Julian]

Yeah, to cut you off is what the I do.

[Damaris]

I feel like when people do that.

[Rory]

What do they say me for?

[Mal]

What they say me for?

[Rory]

What? Murder.

[Mal]

Like, what do you say me for? I'm just telling you. Your girl tongue is some nigga down in the club.

[Julian]

It's embarrassed. It's not really fuck you, it's embarrassment.

[Mal]

It's embarrassed about what?

[Julian]

Women do the same thing, though. When women know, like they going back to a. That's doing they. Friends know that that is doing them wrong and they just want to be happy and bliss with that. All right, I'm just gonna pretend you don't exist because you know too much.

[Rory]

Corny as fuck.

[Julian]

It is corny.

[Rory]

You cut me off explaining your friend like, yo, I'm working it out. This is what it is. Like, no, that's that.

[Julian]

No, people like living in non reality.

[Mal]

People like being clowns. They like living in the circus. He's like, that nigga's a clown. I told you your girl was cheating on you.

[Julian]

You ain't know he was a clown before that instance.

[Mal]

Not like that. No, I never saw that on his jacket. Cut me off me. The fuck you. You cut me off because I saw your girl cheating on you and I told you.

[Rory]

Would you speculate that it was his girl that said that? Like, don't speak to him. Cause obviously she was upset at you.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't care about her.

[Rory]

I know, but do you think that she told him. I know. Do you think that she told him, don't fuck them all no more?

[Mal]

Yeah, if she. If she did and he like still cl.

[Rory]

And actually worse.

[Mal]

Yeah, if she did, that makes it worse. If she's the one that orchestrated that and he like, I bet what?

[Rory]

I think that's how it went. Honestly, she probably.

[Julian]

Wait, let me get in my manipulation bag. You letting these single ass hating ass. You happy?

[Mal]

You go, I ain't never had a day in my life.

[Julian]

Listen, she's lying. Listen, she's lying about everything. That's not the point. Point.

[Rory]

We're talking about a woman that's a.

[Julian]

Liar, that's manipulating her man, no, that's.

[Mal]

I get it. But me and you.

[Rory]

Happy.

[Julian]

You let other people get in our. We should be working. That nigga's a hater. He's single. He ain't got no.

[Mal]

Yeah, you can. I got plenty of. But he can only manipulate a sucker. That's the thing. Only sucks. Only suckers could be manipulated to that degree. He's a clown. That's a clown. That's how.

[Rory]

That's clown.

[Mal]

That for sure. He's a. He's a clown, I think. Is a sucker. Anytime your girl could cheat on you and like, yeah, be with another dude, and then you cut your friend off for telling you your friend of 20.

[Damaris]

Years, immediately after that, he cut you off. Or was it like a slow, gradual.

[Mal]

Like, that was the last conversation we had. It's the last conversation.

[Julian]

She definitely told him you slapped her ass in the club. And he was trying to slap my ass.

[Mal]

Not even like that. I would never slap her ass. She's not like that. She's not an ass. I would slap a girl.

[Damaris]

Try to do that to me.

[Rory]

And I also don't think you would slap your friend's ass.

[Julian]

No, I mean, your friends.

[Mal]

She ain't. I'm not attracted to her. And he knows that. He knows my type. And he has his type, which is all love, but that ain't.

[Julian]

Wait, you said he let a. He let a3 manipulate him.

[Mal]

I mean, in his eyes. I don't know what she is. I don't. I'm not gonna get to throwing numbers.

[Rory]

Around, but strokes for different folks.

[Mal]

I caught him. I caught his girl cheating on him. I told him, because that's my man. At that time of 20 years, almost.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Mal]

So I'm like, yo, like, what's up? She in the. You know. I mean, like, she kissed up on another dude called her. They arguing. He's like, yo, I'm about to go to her crib. I'll call you later. I'll call you later. I was like, all right, man, do what you gotta do. Just don't do nothing stupid. That's the last time I said, yo, just don't go over there and do nothing stupid.

[Damaris]

And he did something.

[Julian]

What if that was okay? So hear me out.

[Mal]

He went right off script.

[Julian]

Let's just. Let's just go completely. Let's go all the way there. Full tinfoil hat. What if that was their boyfriend?

[Mal]

See, you just know it too much. And this is my homeboy. I know him. He don't know that nigga. He didn't know who that nigga was.

[Rory]

I could see if Maul found that part out. Cutting Maul off because, like, he found.

[Mal]

The deepest, darkest secret.

[Rory]

So why cut Maul off? Even if they did, even if that was their boyfriend.

[Mal]

What do you say? Fuck me for?

[Rory]

I look at the computer and the computer say, that's my favorite part of that whole thing. That showed how old 50 was. I looked at the computer and the.

[Mal]

Computer said, yeah, like, fuck me. Like, fuck me.

[Julian]

Okay, Nelly fucked your first baby.

[Mal]

Ti.

[Rory]

Fuck Nelly. Fuck 50. I'm like, what do you fuck me for?

[Mal]

Yeah, you fucked your first baby Melissa, then took your fiance. Say that.

[Rory]

I love 50 so much that. See, this is where you and I differ a lot. I need to know why.

[Mal]

I don't.

[Rory]

I'm one of those people. It's a. It's a good trait and bad trait.

[Mal]

Anybody that cut me off, I don't need to know why I was cut off.

[Julian]

Okay, so why do you assume a.

[Rory]

Friend of a long time, I need.

[Julian]

To call him and he ain't answer or something.

[Mal]

How did I. The marriage. You think that was an assumption? I'm assuming that I was cut off.

[Julian]

You said that was the last conversation. There was no. There was no closure. That's why women like closure. You don't know. Maybe he died. You don't know.

[Mal]

You think. See the marriage, but for real.

[Rory]

It is a small city, though.

[Julian]

What made you think the marriage.

[Mal]

I have not spoken to him or her since that happened.

[Julian]

Well, you was never gonna speak to her again.

[Mal]

That was almost 12 years ago.

[Damaris]

Damn. Damn, son.

[Mal]

How else do I need to paint this for you? They cut me off. They moved out of New York. They married, got kids. Like, started a new life. Like. Like, great. I'm happy for them.

[Rory]

But I'm sure you have mutual friends. Does it ever get brought up?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Nah, niggas don't have to bring that to me. I'm like, I will never speak to.

[Damaris]

Is he cool with other friends or is he just not at all?

[Mal]

Yeah, he still speak to other people that we know for sure. But he know. He know. See, people know me. They know how I'm designed like that. It's going to take a. Like, you're going to have to endure a lot for me to come back into my life after doing some like that to me. I'mma clown you every second we get.

[Julian]

Do you think he made the right decision? Hear me out. Hear me out.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm not sucking his dick. I'm not licking his ass. Go with the girl.

[Julian]

Do you Know that she was licking his ass.

[Mal]

She's ass licker. She's definitely ass liquor.

[Rory]

How do you know?

[Mal]

I know.

[Rory]

Maybe. Maybe there's more to this story.

[Julian]

Is there an ass licking face?

[Mal]

It's a certain jaw. It's a certain walk.

[Damaris]

A walk, a walk. Whoa.

[Mal]

Certain girls that look ass have a certain walk to them. They walk like they walk at a certain pace, like they got somewhere to be.

[Rory]

Efficient.

[Damaris]

A gooch.

[Mal]

You know, Mario, how when you push the button, like, forward, you got that little fast trot. Yeah, that's how little ass look as well.

[Rory]

Just give her some mushrooms.

[Mal]

Ass liquors walk like that.

[Damaris]

It's like how Edna and the Incredibles walks.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. And if she get out the car, like, both feet hit the ground first. Oh, she looking ass.

[Damaris]

What else would he.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Who the. Well, who gets out the car like that?

[Mal]

Ass licking. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Are you following me? Domestic? If a girl get out the car and both feet hit the ground at the same time. Time she's ready to lick ass.

[Rory]

You know Meg's friend, two feet right out of that suv.

[Mal]

If a girl get out one foot, then another foot, and it's like, all right, she ain't licking no ass tonight. But if a girl get out both feet. Oh, yeah, you guys are crazy.

[Rory]

She's tall enough and gotta hop down.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oh, she's. She's just trying under the gooch. She's going. Go get it.

[Damaris]

Jump into a puddle.

[Mal]

Yeah, absolutely. But I don't care about that, though. You know, whatever. Like, as long as they happy, kids are healthy. I don't care if you talk.

[Julian]

I will sacrifice one of my friends to have a healthy marriage.

[Damaris]

Oh, I don't know.

[Julian]

I will have to think about it. I gotta. I got at least 12 friends. Like, one.

[Mal]

One of y'all could go, that's sick.

[Rory]

Would you be the sacrificial lamb.

[Julian]

If. If a genie came up to my friend and was like, hey, if you get rid of the marriage, you will have a flourishing, happy marriage in life and kids. I would not be upset about that. I'd be like, if that's what you have to do.

[Rory]

That's selfless of you.

[Julian]

Yeah. That's what you have.

[Mal]

That ain't happy. You're a clown.

[Julian]

You could be a happy. Clowns are happy.

[Mal]

No, they're not. Clowns are the most. Have you seen the Joker?

[Julian]

What's wrong with this clown?

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

He's not a.

[Mal]

Yes, he was a clown. That's what his first job.

[Julian]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Rory]

You got to see the. You got to see the beginning one. The most recent one. That is the beginning of the joke.

[Julian]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

The Joaquin Phoenix one.

[Mal]

Yeah, he was a clown.

[Damaris]

Joker 2.

[Mal]

Depressed, ready to kill everybody.

[Rory]

Like, you do know that smile is actually scars from a knife. Like, it's. It wasn't a happy.

[Damaris]

It's not actually happening.

[Julian]

Well, I was thinking about, like, birthday clown.

[Mal]

No, he's like a clown clown. Super clown. Yeah. When you do shit like that and move out of. Like, move to a whole nother state with a girl that cheated on you just cause you don't want to bear the. The conversations of your friends. Like how you still with this girl?

[Rory]

Did you know the guy that she was hugged up under?

[Mal]

I don't know him, but I.

[Rory]

You know of him.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Got you.

[Mal]

He ain't one of my peoples, but I know.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

The only other clown I know is John Wayne Gacy. And we all know he's a freaky little clown.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Misunderstood.

[Mal]

Nothing's miss. What murder? He was a clown. What murder?

[Rory]

Mr. Gotti has been accused of heinous acts.

[Mal]

What murder?

[Rory]

You know, that was on this block?

[Mal]

Yeah, no, they. They. They stood 10 toes. 10 toes. They wasn't folded.

[Rory]

And that was just two guys. They weren't even affiliated. They was just like, What.

[Mal]

Like, what are you.

[Rory]

Go.

[Mal]

Go in the house, man. Where did they find this guy?

[Damaris]

Gacy killed 33 people over the course of four years. That is.

[Rory]

What were they with?

[Julian]

You also didn't give that guy advice, by the way. Just want to let you know.

[Rory]

Yes, we did.

[Mal]

We did. We said, tell him we didn't have.

[Rory]

Much to talk about.

[Julian]

No. Then Ma was like, well, I don't know about that, because this happened.

[Mal]

Well, I'm just giving you another side of how things may go depending on if your friend is a clown or not.

[Rory]

First of all, Mal, they're broken up, though.

[Julian]

Him and the. Him and. Him and homegirl are broken up. He just want to let him know, yo, your homeboy is in your ex dn.

[Damaris]

If anything, it would affect the relationship. The relationship between. It's like, is it worth keeping the three of them together, or are you cool with homeboy eventually being like, well.

[Julian]

Fuck him, both of y'all, actually.

[Mal]

It can go anyway, bro.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

I was just hoping that my friend would be happy and not be with a cheater, but.

[Rory]

Okay. So what happens. What happens if Maul doesn't tell his friend and then his friend happens to find out from Someone else that was at that club and then goes, maul, was you at that club that night?

[Mal]

I don't know how you know?

[Rory]

You was standing right next to me. Why you ain't tell me then? What now? That now his friend has a real reason to cut Maul off. Like, why you ain't tell me that you saw that shit? Mal made the right choice. It's a shitty outrage. But Maul did what he was supposed to do.

[Julian]

Yeah, he definitely did the right thing.

[Mal]

I've seen, like, one of my homeboys, his wife, in the club one night. I didn't tell him I saw his wife, but my homeboy that was with me, my homeboy that was with me told him that we saw her. You know what happened? Yo, why you ain't tell me? It's none of my business.

[Julian]

The only way. The only thing I don't say something is if we have already discussed, like, this is a known cheater. Like, if he's a known cheater and you keep taking him back and I see him out with another, I'm not telling you. Why would I do that? You keep accepting the back. You know he's a cheater, so I'm gonna tell you. You gonna get upset, cry, take him back. What, now he hate me. You hate me. No, I'm good. No, if he's a known cheater, I'm not telling you. And my friends don't like that. I tell them that all the time, but if you guys. What, you gonna cry instead?

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah, fuck that. All right, homie. Well, tell him.

[Damaris]

Yeah, tell him.

[Mal]

That's what I say. I say tell him. Yeah, tell him two and. Oh, Julian.

[Damaris]

Big game tonight, ma.

[Mal]

Game three tonight for the Knicks. If you're listening to this, the Knicks either won or lost.

[Damaris]

We're up three, zero.

[Mal]

I like that. Put that out there. Manifest that. Shout out to the Lakers, down 02 that last loss. Don't worry about it. Vacation soon, baby.

[Damaris]

No, we haven't discussed.

[Mal]

Don't trip, baby. Vacation soon.

[Rory]

Come tanking in the playoffs for Bronnie is hilarious.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's all good.

[Damaris]

It's been a couple of days, but we never did discuss the ending to that Knicks game. And that Lakers game. That was the craziest day in basketball.

[Mal]

That was some of the best basketball I've seen in a while. I like it sometimes. Let them play. Fuck it. Don't. Don't hide the whistles. Go get the fucking ball if you want to win.

[Rory]

There was fouls on both sides.

[Damaris]

There were.

[Rory]

I accidentally kicked Amara on that last shot. I can admit it.

[Mal]

Nice.

[Rory]

I was sitting back on the couch and felt like it was kind of over. And Kia started talking to me because I was like, yo, give me a second. I'm trying to watch this. Fourth quarter looked like it was over. Brunson hit that three, and I was like, whoa, relax. She kept talking to me. Chaos ensued. Final shot. I got up. I didn't see that Amara was between the ottoman and the couch and kicked up. Definitely kicked my daughter in the side of the head when that shot went in.

[Mal]

Nice.

[Julian]

I know. I can hear Kia's.

[Rory]

Rory screamed.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Amari didn't cry at all. It wasn't a hard kick, but I definitely kicked her in the head and she fell.

[Mal]

Well, she's a Nick fan. She has no choice. She's a Nick fan. She took a kick to the head for it.

[Rory]

One of the greatest Nick moments in history. She now has a story.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That she was kicked in the head.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

During game two of the first round. 2024 in Knicks history.

[Rory]

That is a big moment.

[Mal]

That's a big moment for us. Amar is now a Knick fan, whether she likes it or not. But shout out to the Knicks. They playing. They're playing. Good. But I'm not counting Philly out yet, though.

[Rory]

No, of course not. Brunson needs to wake up, though.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Brunson. That's really been the storyline. Brunson's been playing pretty mid, and we've still taken both games.

[Mal]

He'll take it. You think Brunson, he'll take it. I'll take it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Hey.

[Mal]

He'll take it. I think he about to go down there and Philly and show his ass.

[Damaris]

I hope he needs to. He needs one of those games in this series.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Any restaurant that has ever charged Mitch or is about to charge Mitch. Blasphemy. Get you out the city. Mitch eats for free in New York City.

[Mal]

Mitch who?

[Damaris]

Robinson.

[Mal]

Yeah. Oh, Mitchell Robinson.

[Rory]

He been going crazy. I don't care what his stats are.

[Damaris]

He came back that blocked by Hartenstein. Man, what a fun game. I was, like, so amped up, and it was right before the game.

[Mal]

They play together, man. They play together. So it's good to see when teammates like each other. One, nobody really has an ego like Jalen. Brunson is not the ego guy. And it's just good to see those guys play together. Like, that's when basketball is fun. When you see guys that fuck with each other and they not, you know, who's the star. So. Well, let's just go get a win. That's New York. Knick back.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I mean, you're looking at. I mean, this is again, the playoffs. You had five guys in double figures, McBride on the fringe with nine points. Like this just. It's. Everyone's touching the ball, everyone's getting buckets. Like, it's just. It's a fun team to watch. I know we're like New York, biased as fuck, but even if you're just.

[Mal]

A fan, but we always talk about it. It's fun. It's just fun when the Knicks are in the playoffs. Yeah, it's fun to talk about them. It's fun to watch them. And I think this Knicks team is, you know, they're just one of those teams that we're going to look back on and be like, yo, they really, really played together and. And got the job, you know, whatever their goal is. I know it's, you like to say, win a championship. That's just not realistic. But I do think them getting to at least the second, third round is, like, solid, excellent year for us.

[Rory]

So can we end out on that? Those final moments commentated by friend of the show Simba.

[Mal]

Oh, good.

[Rory]

Way to end before we get right to Patreon. We can end it right after this. You do your sign off. Oh.

[Mal]

Oh, Rory.

[Rory]

Rory, Rory, Rory.

[Julian]

It's the dog barking for me.

[Damaris]

Just shouting.

[Mal]

Maud had nothing to do with that game, sir. I was home chilling. Shout out to Simba. All right, well, we can be back. It's the weekend. Yeah, it's the freaking weekend.

[Rory]

Yes. We're back Monday.

[Mal]

We'll be back Monday, everybody. Have a safe weekend.

[Rory]

Well, yeah, Tuesday.

[Mal]

Well, yeah, we'll be back. Well, y'all hear from us on Tuesday.

[Rory]

Can't escape us.

[Mal]

We'll see each other again on Monday. But be safe, be blessed, have a fun weekend. I'm that. He's just ginger. Peace. New warrior now.