Episode 267 | The People V.S. Mal

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 267 | The People V.S. Mal

Release Date: May 10, 2024
Hosts: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Episode Title: The People V.S. Mal
Description: New stories, new laughs, new random hot takes that no one asked for... New Rory & Mal

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1. Introduction

In Episode 267 of New Rory & MAL, titled "The People V.S. Mal," hosts Rory and Mal delve into one of the most talked-about beefs in the hip-hop industry: the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. The conversation navigates through the complexities of rap rivalries, public perception, and the impact of social media on artist reputations.

2. Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar: The Battle Intensifies

The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about the Drake-Kendrick beef, focusing on Kendrick Lamar’s album Not Like Us and Drake’s Hard Part Six. The hosts analyze how both artists approach their diss tracks and the strategies they employ to outmaneuver each other.

Speaker B: “We definitely had that conversation. That push made out better beefing with Drake than if he just got his Drake feature.”
[03:50]

Speaker C: “This is a very passionate, very, like, you know, intense time in music. That's all.”
[03:07]

3. Allegations and Public Opinion

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around unsubstantiated allegations against Drake, including rumors labeling him a pedophile. The hosts express skepticism about the validity of these claims and explore how such rumors can damage an artist's reputation irrespective of the truth.

Speaker B: “He has been accused of grooming or being a pedo towards...”
[14:06]

Speaker C: “I'm not mad at Kendrick. I'm not mad at Drake.”
[12:16]

4. The Role of Social Media and Media Outlets

Rory and Mal examine the role of social media in amplifying the beef between Drake and Kendrick. They discuss how platforms like Twitter can distort conversations, turning specific moments into viral content that may not accurately represent the artists' intentions.

Speaker B: “The whole world was reacting to your reaction of a reaction of a reaction.”
[01:03]

Speaker C: “It's just what was said. It's not a real thing to begin with.”
[16:56]

5. Music Industry Dynamics: Spotify vs. Billboard

The conversation shifts to the significance of chart rankings, comparing Spotify's real-time streaming numbers to Billboard's more traditional metrics. The hosts debate the influence these charts have on an artist's brand and public image.

Speaker A: “Just want to clarify that. Taylor Swift is still sitting at the top.”
[09:41]

Speaker B: “I'm not... Spotify is the real number.”
[09:46]

6. Future Moves and Artist Strategies

Looking ahead, Rory and Mal speculate on the potential moves both Drake and Kendrick might make to maintain their dominance in the music industry. They discuss the possibility of Drake releasing multiple records simultaneously to overwhelm Kendrick's responses.

Speaker B: “I think Drake is gonna have two just on the side, just in case.”
[53:55]

Speaker C: “Kendrick's strategy of no matter what Drake says or does, I'm sticking to what I'm doing over here.”
[34:48]

7. Broader Discussions: Roasts, Sports, and Personal Stories

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts veer off into lighter topics, including reviews of the "Greatest Roast of All Time" featuring Tom Brady and other celebrities. They share personal anecdotes and humorous takes on various subjects, adding levity to the intense discussions earlier in the episode.

Speaker B: “Nikki Glaser was great shout out to women.”
[81:05]

Speaker C: “Jeff Gunn was hilarious.”
[81:20]

8. Listener Interaction: Voicemails and Advice

The episode concludes with a segment where listeners call in with personal dilemmas. In one notable voicemail, a listener seeks advice on navigating a delicate situation involving old friends and current relationships. Rory and Mal offer thoughtful and practical advice, emphasizing honesty and communication.

Listener Voicemail: “I'm in a weird predicament... How do I tell him that?”
[88:08]

Speaker B: “Do the date, period. And you just tell him.”
[91:41]

9. Conclusion

Episode 267 of New Rory & MAL offers a comprehensive and engaging exploration of the Drake-Kendrick feud, examining its roots, implications, and the broader impact on the music industry. Through insightful analysis and candid conversation, Rory and Mal provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of one of hip-hop's most compelling rivalries.

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Notable Quotes:

• Speaker B: “The whole world was reacting to your reaction of a reaction of a reaction.” [01:03]
• Speaker C: “It's not a real thing to begin with.” [16:56]
• Speaker A: “Just want to clarify that. Taylor Swift is still sitting at the top.” [09:41]
• Speaker B: “I think Drake is gonna have two just on the side, just in case.” [53:55]
• Speaker C: “Kendrick's strategy of no matter what Drake says or does, I'm sticking to what I'm doing over here.” [34:48]
• Listener Voicemail: “I'm in a weird predicament... How do I tell him that?” [88:08]

This structured and detailed summary captures the essence of the episode, providing an informative overview for those who haven't listened while maintaining engagement through notable quotes and clear sectioning.

Transcript

[A]

He's not my best friend. If I ain't seen him in two years or talk to him in two years and you don't know who the fuck he is, we're going off this.

[B]

Hypothetical that they are reconnecting back in town.

[A]

He said that was his little homie that he ain't seen in a while. He didn't say that was his best friend.

[B]

Little homie never came out of his mouth.

[A]

Swear to God. He said that was my little homie.

[B]

All right, well, I mean, sometimes you got to your little homies, girls, let.

[C]

Them know who the big homie. Let him know.

[B]

No warrior now. And we are back.

[C]

Feel like we never left. The quick few days my life has been. My life is like in a neutral bullet right now.

[B]

I'm curious what your phone has been like the last two days. Cuz mine was.

[C]

It's been a neutral bullet.

[B]

Mine was blowing up about you. So I could only imagine what your phone was.

[C]

Why your phone blowing up about me?

[B]

Because the whole world was reacting to your reaction of a reaction of a reaction.

[C]

We all do now. We react to a reaction of somebody reacting.

[B]

Yes. An action to Drake, reacting to Kendrick, who was reacting to Drake, who was reacting to Kendrick.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And now we're here reacting to people reacting to my phone about your reaction.

[C]

So your phone's going off for 48 hours?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I got some interesting text messages, I got some interesting phone calls, facetimes.

[B]

I got some, some great text messages from west coast people that. That can't wait to have a conversation. Not in that type of way, but would love to debate with you further.

[C]

Oh, I thought you about to say I can't go to LA no more.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Everything was love. And actually from the people you would. The people public would think would like hate you. That is super Team Kendrick and is publicly hating.

[C]

You can't hate me. I don't hate nobody. So you can't hate me if you hate me. That's just weird. I don't hate nobody. I've been very clear throughout this thing. It's not hate. It's just. I'm just kind of like befuddled at just the reactions. It's like y'all don't really like. I get it, you know what I mean? But it's just like, stop. Like we, we could stop at some point. I mean, but have fun though. Have fun now. But we're going to have to have a real conversation.

[B]

Of course that clip went viral the way it did because it's clipped to A specific time of you yelling loud. That'll always get people moving within context. Yeah. Actual conversation happened at one point, and everyone just thinks you screamed for two hours.

[C]

Yeah, And I don't want that. Like, that's just so nasty because I'm not. I'm not a screamer. But it's just like, you know, just in that moment, I just felt like, you know, when you get frustrated that people just can't, like, understand what you're saying.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

How do you not understand? Exactly. Yeah.

[B]

So that's all you guys understand why I'm always mad at Ken.

[C]

People like, oh, he's so mad at. I'm not mad at Kendrick. Why would I be mad at Kendrick? I'm not mad at Kendrick.

[B]

Punch said it sounded personal.

[C]

It's not.

[B]

I was like, personal.

[C]

It's not personal.

[B]

Punch, I don't even know if he's ever met Kendrick.

[C]

I met Kendrick years ago, though. Not. Not. I haven't, like, been around Kendrick in some years. But, you know, it's like I said, I. With Kendrick being very clear about that. These are two of my. My favorite rappers of their times. But by far, it's not even close. But, you know, just. Just getting frustrated with people's just lack of comprehending what's happening and what's going on and. But, you know, I gotta stop feeling like everybody just is supposed to understand what I'm saying. I get. I get in that zone sometimes and I'm, like, frustrated. But it wasn't yelling at Kendrick. I. I'm not upset at Kendrick. I'm not just explaining that. Yeah, like I said, I'm not upset. I'm not mad about anything. It's just like, this is a very passionate, very, like, you know, intense time in music. That's all.

[B]

Well, I was talking with Punch, and we were discussing how rap beef brings the worst out of everybody. At some point, when you're debating even, let's say, fuck rap beef, just debating rap, at some point, someone is going to scream and get out of their character. I don't know why hip hop does that to us. Maybe it's because we love it so much. At some point, we're all going to yell.

[C]

Mm.

[B]

So Terrace Martin tweeted that he loves you. Maybe you just ate something wrong that day.

[A]

Oh, my God. He did.

[B]

He said, I love more.

[C]

Maybe a fog with terrorists.

[B]

Terrorism, too. I forgot his tweet was something like that I love more. But he maybe, maybe ate something wrong that day. Maybe he had cheese or meat.

[C]

Listen, man, these guys know Me, man. I'm not. I'm not. You know, I just. Let me apologize to people that took what my passion was the wrong way. I'm not upset. I'm not angry. It's all music. It's all a good time. Even though I don't agree with what Kendrick is trying to paint, I understand it.

[B]

I mean, I just want to shoot you bail of everyone that was under those comments. Every last one of y'all has been melting down for an entire week on the timeline.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Just cause it's not audio. Your thumbs were louder than Maul for seven days straight.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they have.

[B]

Their thumbs are melted for the way they've been going off. And just Maul expresses how maybe one side felt and the other side felt just in a different way. You guys were yelling just like that on the mall.

[D]

Also has the platform to do so. There's a difference between tweeting at somebody and being in a studio and having the ability to push. Yeah, I mean, but visual aids, like, there's a lot more that goes into what mall does, I think.

[C]

But again, I think it's just the power of people just seeing a clip and just taking that and, you know, trying to spend whatever they trying to spend on it. But no, I'm not upset at Kendrick. I'm. Because when I read that, I was like, what? I saw some guy on TikTok saying that I was the guy that gave Kendrick, like, some info. I was like, like the stories that are coming from this, I'm like, wait, me?

[D]

Oh, yeah, you became the mall.

[C]

That shit is insane.

[B]

Actually, me and Kendrick have been planning this since the BET cipher in 2011.

[C]

Oh, yeah, we're.

[B]

That calculator.

[C]

I'm just. I'm just laughing at that type of shit. But, you know, it's. It's. It's all in good sport. Nobody's upset. Well, I'm not upset.

[D]

Well, now that you saw the fallout in the public, the matter of public opinion, not just on the beef, but more specifically directed at you, did that change your tone at all? Do you feel differently about this situation?

[C]

No.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Are you kidding me? Drake is still smashing.

[D]

I wasn't sure if there was millions of people that disagreed with you.

[C]

Maybe you think I give a. With millions of people say millions of people can have bad taste. You know that, right?

[B]

Of course.

[C]

Okay. As long as we know that part of it.

[B]

Like, I'm not one of those guys for centuries.

[C]

I'm not one of those guys that thinks that because a restaurant has a high rating that the food is great. I'm not one of those. Let me take. Let me go and see. Because a lot of people don't know what good food is.

[B]

Yeah. But then a lot.

[C]

Long enough to understand that part. Like, but you're not as. No, it's not. But all these restaurants y'all be going to is just for a picture and ambiance. The food is terrible.

[B]

But then you go to some of those really fancy world renowned restaurants and you get like this much food has no real flavor. Yeah, it just has the name.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

And that's not good food to me. I'd rather go to the Chinese spot that Drake and Kendrick go to.

[A]

Are you saying Kendrick is Philippe?

[C]

Did I say that? No, I'm not saying Kendrick is Philippe. I'm just saying that that's Philippe bad to me. Yeah, that shit is terrible. But just taste levels, that's all it is. No disrespect to Philippe, whoever made. You know what I mean? Like that shit is all. All that shit is trash to me. But it's just this. It's just taste level.

[B]

I'm not going to get you started, but a lot of people would think that Drake would be more on the side of the high name. Like a Philippe that everyone loves and goes to. That's the place they take pictures, that gets the most attention. But it doesn't have the best food when you get to the kitchen. Most people would say that in this food comparison.

[C]

I hear you.

[B]

I wasn't trying to get you started.

[C]

Listen, bro, I'm already started.

[D]

Is that the case anymore though, Rory? Because Not Like Us has been number one, which eclipsed Euphoria, which is now sitting at number two. So Kendrick now occupies the top two spots on the charts. And Not Like US in its fourth day, has over 12 million streams on Spotify alone, which is his first, not only his first solo number one, but also in its fourth day. This is the most streamed it's gotten. So it's still going up. Maybe he is the Philippe.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So anyone that his number one is Philippe.

[C]

Now we know why he's sitting at number one and number two first.

[B]

Because the biggest.

[C]

It's a common. It's a common. It's a common denominator in there somewhere.

[D]

This is a drink.

[C]

There's a common factor in there somewhere. These are Drake features.

[D]

It is a Drake features, I'll give you that.

[C]

These are Drake. And I said it before this beef started. I said getting a beef. Getting into a beef with an artist like that is way Is gonna do way more for you than you having a verse from an artist like that. Yeah, it's not even close.

[B]

We definitely had that conversation. That push made out better beefing with Drake than if he just got his Drake feature. For sure. I agree with you there. But I also want to say, so what? Like, okay.

[C]

No, I'm just saying, I guess on that side, that's cool, too.

[B]

That's a stat on that.

[C]

That's great he got there. Because as long as you don't lose sight of that part, you could say, so what? That. I'm cool with that. As long as we don't lose sight of that other piece.

[B]

And I think it. It deserves a number one off the difficulty it takes to beat Drake not only in charts but in public perception, I think it's warranted number one outside of the song. Just being good.

[C]

Y'all, y'all, y'all.

[B]

That's me giving credit to Drake. It takes a lot to beat that guy.

[C]

No, no, I mean, we know that, but I'm just, you know, story of.

[B]

Adidon didn't go number one.

[C]

As long as. As long. As long as we keep that. So what is valid, too.

[B]

I'm with you on the numbers. Always do. I think it's great. And congratulate Drake for being the highest streamed or second highest stream person of all time. Beat the Beatles. I think that's amazing, But I don't really care in this. I also don't care about Kendrick going number one on this.

[A]

And let's clarify that. These are Spotify charts. These are not.

[B]

Bill.

[A]

Just want to clarify that.

[B]

What'd you try?

[C]

All right.

[D]

No, don't.

[C]

Don't.

[D]

Now Like US is number one on Billboard.

[B]

My album went number 10 on Spotify amongst all genres. Now you're trying to discredit me because it wasn't on Billboard. Yeah, obviously, I don't even. You part of the machine. Spotify is the real number. You compromised.

[A]

No, I'm just saying, like, I just want to make that clear that Taylor Swift is still sitting at the top.

[B]

Of Billboard, but she doesn't count. She's like, yeah, she's at.

[C]

Yeah. Being number two behind Taylor right now. Being number one.

[A]

Well, Tommy Richmond is number two right now.

[B]

That's.

[A]

But that's fire.

[B]

Congrats.

[C]

Fire.

[A]

I love that for him. But that's Billboard. But he was talking about Spotify.

[D]

Yeah. And comparatively, Drake has had, if we're talking Billboard, 5, 13 total, but 5 solo number ones.

[B]

So, yeah, they're both pretty good at making Music. See that after, like the dust. I won't say the dust has settled, per se.

[A]

No, it's still floating around and I'm still.

[B]

Yeah, it's still very foggy indeed.

[D]

Rory.

[B]

It's, it's the only thing people are discussing. But now that we're getting into these other intricates of numbers and that whole thing, this is when it starts to get a little exhausting for me because it's like, yeah, who gives a fuck? We already know who Drake is, number wise. It's not what we're here to talk about. So once you get in that little back and forth, it's like, well, what.

[C]

Was the point, right?

[B]

If numbers were the point, then why even have the battle?

[C]

I mean, but, you know, again, back to the start of this, we knew that this was obviously going to be one of, if not the biggest moment that we've seen in hip hop music as far as battling goes. I mean, obviously the Jay and Nas battle is still probably right there as well. But this one, just because of everything that's added to it and attached to it now, with social media being such a thing now and people having so many different platforms, media outlets and things like that, like this just feels like a bigger, A bigger moment.

[B]

Do you think? Not like us being number one, though. Fuck numbers. Just it being number one and it.

[C]

Playing fuck numbers and then say, being.

[B]

Number one, let me land it. It being number one, it playing @ NBA games, it playing at tennis matches, it playing on the news, it's hurting Drake's brand. So I'm not saying numbers wise matter or a number one slot matters. I'm saying what that number one has represented and where it's spread. Is that affecting his brand that a pedo anthem is playing in the NBA playoffs? Tennis players are walking out to it.

[C]

I don't think it's. I don't think it's hurting Drake's brand. I think that it may feel like that and it may look like that, but I think ultimately once this settles, I think it's going to hurt Kendrick's brand more. Because if, if, if Drake is found and proven not to be a pedo, which I know he's not, once the public sees that, I mean, is this not one of the worst things you can call a person?

[B]

But agreed, yes.

[C]

I'm talking about when it's not. When it's not who they are.

[B]

It's up there. It's one of the worst things you could say about this.

[C]

No, to me, this is the worst. Yeah, I don't think there's any other thing you can label a person ever, like snitching and all that shit. I get that shit was street shit. I understand that part.

[A]

Rapists might be worse.

[B]

I mean. I mean, you are raping.

[C]

This is. This is the same thing. It's just with a certain.

[B]

Can't really.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[D]

So it's like, I'll throw anti Semitic in there, too.

[B]

Well, that's. That's Taylor Swift. And then we're going with that number two.

[D]

Oh, we're going at the two spot.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Taylor Swift and anti Semitism always number one, no matter what.

[C]

Exact.

[D]

Matter of fact, never forget.

[C]

So it's like, if you're not. If you're not that and somebody labels you, that. To me, that's some of the craziest ever. To me, I'm just speaking for me. I'm only ever speaking for me in my taste level. I think labeling somebody that. And they're not. That's not who they are, is some of the worst shit you could ever do. Whether we want to say it's entertainment or not, there's certain shit you just don't even. Even in entertainment, even behind the guise of entertainment and comedy and things like that, there's certain shit you just don't ever play with. And to me, that's at the top of the list.

[B]

I mean, let's go with history, though. With the court of public opinion. Is the damage already done? Let's say Drake comes out. And of course, I hope that on a moral level and outside of a rap beef, that he can prove to the world that, yo, I don't touch kids. This was fucking crazy. Is the damage.

[C]

He tried to do that.

[B]

And I said, yo, he's explaining, the public doesn't care. You'll see rapists go to jail, covered for a year, all the whole trial. They'll sit for 20 years, find out they're innocent, they'll come out of jail, won't cover it all. They'll be a rapist for the rest of their life. Is the damage done already, even if he proves otherwise?

[C]

I don't know. I don't think so. Cause I don't think that nobody truly believes that. I don't think nobody believes that.

[D]

I think there's plausible deniability, like, there's enough. Kendrick wouldn't have jumped out like that if there wasn't enough smut in, like, the public perception of him that it fit. So the fact that we're even speculating it is Enough. Kendrick won, I think, in that regard.

[C]

You know, who's speculating it? I don't think nobody's speculating that.

[B]

I mean, I think whatever side you're on, you've made up your mind.

[C]

I don't think nobody's speculating that.

[D]

But I was looking, I was wrapping my mind around, okay, who I know they're not. No one will compare to Drake, but who's someone that's in a very high position of power that got charged with this kind of level of thing. But then it would. It was all. And they were they welcome back to the community. James. James Gunn, the video, the director that did Guardians of the Galaxy, got they. He always had like, he was talking to young girl, but he never did anything. It was like weird. He was. He had a really dark, sick sense of humor. And he wasn't talking to young girls. He just made really up inappropriate jokes. And like, in the height of the MeToo movement, someone took all his old tweets, all his old posts and put it on like this 10 page documents, all of his like fucked up shit in like one doc. And they're like, well, this is. You got to get him out of here. But he didn't do anything. So then he got booted off that project. Got like ripped out of Marvel and then for years was like, ghost. And then DC signed him again because obviously all this shit was bullshit. Nothing. He didn't actually do anything. And now he's working on like the new Guardians of the Galaxy movie. So there is like a path to redemption. But I feel like you have to like, at least get off that public. You have to get through the public ridicule that comes with it. True or not.

[B]

Yeah. I just don't know how you go about that. I mean, I saw, and I'm not saying conveniently, but I would try to clean this up if I'm not a pedophile. All the girls that were in those videos that were all over the timeline that everyone was accusing Drake of either grooming or being a pedo towards, all conveniently came out on the same day and said, hey, that's not how it went. Even the girl that made the money in the grave beat was like, you guys misunderstood me. I don't understand how you guys didn't understand me when she flat out said, we were in high school when it happened. Cool. Everyone cleaned it up. And if I'm Drake, I do the same thing. I'm not accusing him of doing brand cleanup. If someone calls me a pedophile and I wasn't creeping on a chick. I'd say, yo, can you tell these people that we have no relationship? Like that. Even that kind of fell flat to me. They all came out in one day. They were on a bunch of podcasts I'd never heard of, making statements with a bunch of people I'd never seen before, and it still fell flat. So I guess that's my question of how can you even turn that around if that is not even the truth?

[C]

I mean, to me, it's nothing to turn around. I don't think that's a real thing. I think because somebody said it in a record, okay? Like, this is a battle. People are going to say things to try to assassinate somebody's character and demean somebody, but that's not a real thing. You know? I mean, it's just not a real thing. It's. And then when he did explain it in the Heart, part six, y'all said, oh, why is he always explaining himself? I felt like if somebody said that about me, I'm gonna explain that too. Like, whoa, hold up. Let's be clear here. That ain't. That's not true. I don't understand. This is a battle and all of it, but, like, fam, this. It's certain. You just not gonna just throw out there, like, that's. That's insane to throw that on somebody's jacket.

[B]

I agree.

[C]

You know what I mean? So it's just like, you know, I don't. It's not a real thing, but it's because of the moment, and that's what was said. I think that you have to address it. But you saying it fell flat. It fell flat because it wasn't a real thing to begin with.

[B]

How do you know? I'm just saying that turning. Turning around the public's opinion, bro.

[C]

You think that if. You think that if Drake was having sex with underage girls, we. Kendrick would have been the one to put that out there like that.

[D]

No, I'm not.

[C]

We would have been. Knew that.

[D]

I'm just saying, like, I just don't want to speak so definitively about things. Like, we don't. None of us know. We don't know what each other does behind closed.

[C]

Like.

[D]

We don't know in that sense.

[C]

Yeah, you're right. I don't.

[D]

That's all I'm saying.

[C]

I've never seen this man lay down in his bed with whomever he lays down with. No. Never seen that. I'm just gonna. But I. I can say the same thing about a lot of other people in my life that I know for sure. Yeah, so it's like the same thing. I would be completely and totally fucking floored if that were true. I would be like, this is fucking insane. And there's nothing I won't come on my platform and say about how I feel about that if it's found to be true. I don't fuck with shit like that. But because I feel so strongly that is not true. It's crazy to me that somebody is throwing that out there on somebody's jacket like that to me is something you don't play with.

[B]

Okay, well then what, what do you think about some of the. The videos? Even though. Let's go with the 17 year old that came on stage that said somebody else from OVO picked her out of the crowd, whatever she said her. Her age. Drake was like, whoa, you're going to get me in trouble. And seemed like he made the right move when he found out her age but then continued on and was like, yo, you really gonna get me in trouble. I felt your breasts. And all this was all. After she said she was 17. Is that just a mistake or is that a red flag?

[C]

I'm gonna go on the side of a mistake then a red flag because of. It was part of the. It was on stage at the show in that moment. So I can understand that now. If this was something where they just at dinner, chilling at a table and that happens, then it's like he got that. That's what you be doing at dinner. Like, but on stage, you know, that's part of the show. I kind of. Again, it's. I'm not saying it's right. So that's what I'm saying on the, on the side of mistake. I'm not going to say that's a red flag. And this is what he doing. This is his bag and it. No, like I'm not, I'm not going to go on that side of it.

[B]

I don't think it would warrant a full. This man's a pedophile and I'm going to rhyme it and make it a number one record. But it was a little weird after he found out in the beginning, I was like, oh, he. How would he know? At first I didn't know why people were outraged. In the beginning of the clip. I was like, well, if he didn't know, this is some Akon shit. When Akon got in trouble and he was like, this is a 21/club. The is security letting this girl in for it was the after effects where I was like, all right, I kind of see what people are saying. He knows the age. Why are you doubling down on the freakiness? So, yeah, that raises flags with people. And when someone has something that rhymes that well and you have at least one bit of video evidence, the court of public opinion is going to be very difficult to turn around, especially when the girl. And I'm not saying Drake put her up to it or UMG or her employer. I'm just saying she didn't really clean anything up. Her. Her just saying, yo, I didn't feel violated. Cool. We didn't say you did in the beginning. We just said he was a little freaky and weird after he found out your age. Yeah, that's all it was. So back to my original point of. I don't really know how this can be cleaned up for Drake. No matter how much controlled damage he does with it, he could break. Every girl could come out like, I.

[C]

Don'T know, damage, though.

[B]

Like, the only way in this world, unfortunately, is just go make good music and hopefully people will forget which is up. But that's the world we live in. Go make another good movie. We forget about the nasty actor.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, it's. I think Kendrick played it so well because it's. The court of public opinion, which we've learned doesn't abide by the due process.

[B]

There's no due process with the court of public opinion.

[D]

It's just whoever's. If there's enough speculative evidence and there's enough dots to connect this, that there could be somewhat of a truth a through line, hammer it. I think that's exactly what Kendrick did.

[C]

So Kendrick doesn't have anything.

[D]

I'm not saying Kendrick like. No, I mean, now to. Inversely, we can have the conversation about the video coming out of the. The employees, the security team at the Hard rock, the. In 2014, and the woman is saying, you know, I shouldn't be saying this. You know, Kendrick. There was a Kendrick beat up this woman. Her face is all bloody. All that look that seems like more hard evidence. Like, that seems pretty concrete. So, yeah, I don't. But again, just kind of respond to that on the record. I don't know how that plays out. Obviously, that. That at the time didn't take a legal route. So it seems like they internally figured it out.

[C]

Nothing. But Drake took a legal route.

[D]

No, no. So they're both. It's just kind of stuck in this space.

[C]

But Drake has to clean up and do damage control.

[B]

Want to make this just a Drake thing, I think since that video has resurfaced, what do we find more believable.

[C]

Out of these two? And it's nasty that we. That's a. Yeah, like, it's nasty.

[B]

I don't even want to, like, have that, but I.

[C]

It's out there. We just consumers of the. Of the music at this point. We just talking about what we heard.

[B]

I don't know either of these gentlemen. I really don't. I've had a few conversations with Drake.

[C]

I don't. I don't know. Say this was a guy named Dante and a guy named Aaron.

[B]

Who's Dante? And who's Aaron?

[C]

Dante. Dante. They're saying Dante.

[B]

Where's Dante from?

[C]

They're saying Dante is a pedophile.

[D]

Right.

[C]

He's a rap superstar. And like, oh, he's a pedophile, right. And then they're saying Aaron beat his fiance up.

[D]

Why do we need to speculate?

[C]

I'm just saying, like, let's just say we could just remove the names from it. Remove the names from it. What do you think is a more believable. Believable act?

[B]

Can I give you a very political answer that?

[C]

Why you want to go. This ain't cnn. This is rnm.

[B]

It's the truth.

[C]

What we doing?

[D]

Nice.

[C]

This ain't cnn. What are we doing? You ain't got to be political here.

[B]

Judging by. What do you think is a political. Judging by history and percentages, both of them are guilty.

[C]

Oh, see, when is. When is the last time? Okay, you told me you talking about just in the scope of the shit that happens in the world. That's what you're talking about. Yeah, I'm talking about by the numbers. I'm talking about a fucking pop superstar.

[B]

Listen, I don't want to put.

[C]

Being a pedophile.

[B]

I don't want to put.

[C]

Have we seen it before? They tried it with somebody else that was a pop superstar. Never found nothing fair.

[B]

You know, I'm just saying.

[C]

Where we going with this? Where we going?

[B]

I'm Mike Jack Prince. Yeah. No, it's a lot of comparisons happening in the history.

[C]

I'm just saying.

[B]

I'm not putting it on every rich, famous person that they are a pedophile. But we have seen in the last 10 years that there is a community amongst the elite that is a little petty. And I don't mean Miley. And I've ran into my fair share of pedophiles. As we've joked on this podcast, they were not rich and famous. Matter of fact, they was Broke, drunk, and nasty.

[C]

Yeah. That was like the. The two bees of the.

[B]

I don't even know if I put. They didn't even have a channel. They have a YouTube account.

[D]

They're the streets.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

They had a flip cam. Maybe.

[C]

You'Re molesting somebody with a flip cam is wild. You'll turn around. Turn around. You see, you know, you had to flip the phone. I had to hold it up like.

[B]

That, and then how long it would take to upload that footage. You're dedicated.

[C]

That's not fun, but it's cool.

[B]

Listen, I liked the route Drake took.

[C]

When he said, I like.

[B]

That's because you hang with ovo, that's why.

[C]

No, I thought you was about to.

[B]

Say you thought it was going there.

[C]

No, I just. You said, I like, and I was like, wait, where's he going?

[B]

Where were you in 1996?

[C]

Somebody in Manhattan. I don't know.

[B]

Judging by the numbers. Yeah, it's not that crazy to think that someone rich and powerful could end up in a pedophile ring. That's Ryan Garcia.

[C]

I understand now. I understand that.

[B]

I don't think it's crazy to think.

[C]

I'm talking numbers wise, coming from.

[B]

Somebody would beat their wife, because that's very common. So, no, I don't think it's crazy to hear, unfortunately, anybody in the world, if you found out that they talk.

[C]

I'm talking about. I'm talking about artists, superstars, especially of this caliber. Of this caliber coming from rap. When is the. When. When have we. Have we ever seen that Dr. Dre.

[B]

Is on record of one of the biggest women abusers ever? I know no one will say it. I know it's. Everyone's scared to say that, but he's.

[C]

Not a rap superstar, bro.

[B]

Dr. Dre was not a superstar. He's a billionaire. He was the first billionaire in this space.

[C]

Rap. Rap. Rap.

[B]

Just because he had a ghostwriter.

[C]

Rap. Rap. Rap. Dr. Dre is not a rap superstar, bro.

[D]

What?

[C]

He's not. He's not a rap superstar. What are you talking about?

[B]

He did the Super Bowl.

[D]

Well, he's a hip hop superstar. Is that. Is that what you are? You're just saying as a lyricist.

[C]

I'm talking about as a rapper. As a rapper. I don't understand why I got to.

[A]

Come important to the conversation like the argument that you guys are having. Why is him rapping important to conversation? He's still a superstar.

[C]

Because I'm talking about a rapper. A rapper superstar, not somebody that's huge in Business. A business mogul. One of the greatest producers ever. I'm talking about somebody that is strictly an artist that has back. That has been from him. I'm not. No, I'm just saying when have we seen.

[B]

That's what I thought.

[C]

When have we seen any of those guys actually be found to be a pedophile?

[B]

Oh, I don't. None that I know of.

[C]

So.

[B]

Oh no. The, the, the creator, if you will, of this is a known pedophile.

[C]

Okay. That after that.

[A]

Isn't Diddy being charged right now with sex trafficking an underage girl?

[B]

I don't know if it's of underage girls. I really don't.

[C]

I don't think it's underage girls. I don't.

[A]

The one girl then she said she was 16.

[D]

If you have sex trafficking, do you really draw the line at age. That's kind of my. Where I'm at.

[C]

But do you know what sex trafficking is?

[D]

Yes, I get it that there's like.

[B]

I know the loophole. If you fly a girl in and have consensual sex, you're sexual. Yeah, I know the loophole, but I don't think that's what was going on over there in some cases.

[C]

I'm just saying we've never seen. We've never seen. If we have. It's very few and far in between. If it goes from being a pedophile or being an abusive spouse partner, you're seeing more of that.

[D]

Numbers wise, it's more likely.

[C]

I'm just saying we've seen more of that than we've seen that. Not saying we've never seen that. I'm just saying more commonly we get stories of physical abuse on their spouses.

[B]

And things because that's more common in the world. Like we're trying to put a mic a microscope on hip hop, which is unfair to hip hop.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Because the world is way crazier and.

[C]

Shittier things that we've been told in this moment and I'm saying breaking that.

[B]

Down by numbers, there's probably more wife beaters than there is. This is such a nasty conversation.

[C]

This is, this is, this is what we've been presenting with.

[B]

And this is what I told the Washington Post once the dust settled, we were about to have a conversation that was going to be so nasty.

[C]

This is what I didn't want to say. That's all I'm saying. That's why I said what I said in the beginning of this episode. That to me, putting that on somebody when you don't know if that's true. Or not is some of the craziest shit ever. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

But also, don't say in the same breath that I beat my wife if I did not beat my wife. True.

[C]

I'm with you on that. I'm definitely with you on that.

[B]

And I mean, you know, I thought.

[A]

It was all fairs and rap battles.

[B]

Oh, no, it is. I thought I'm still on that side. I'm on that side, by the way.

[C]

Not when it comes to shit like calling somebody. So there are rules in rap, bad battles in life. Just throwing that on somebody's. Yo, that's. He's a pedal. What?

[D]

No, but he didn't just not crazy. That is like, he said it because there was enough.

[C]

Is there enough?

[D]

There was enough. If there's enough that it's been the, the crux of this whole thing since it came out. Is he? Is he not? If there wasn't anything plausible that people could see in Drake that this might not be true, this would have gone away so fast. There's a reason why it's still hanging on.

[C]

I think the thing was, or what I thought in the beginning was because people were saying Drake likes young girls. I think people took that because a young girl could be a 21, 22, 23 year old, could still be a groomer.

[B]

It's not pedophile.

[C]

But I'm just, I'm just saying a young girl could be 22, 20, that's a young girl to somebody that's 35, 34, 36 years old.

[D]

I think he's 37, whatever he is.

[C]

I'm just saying that could be considered a young girl. So I think when people hear that, they automatically go to underage girl or a fucking minor. And it's like, no, if I'm 34 and I like a 22 year old, I'm not doing anything illegal.

[D]

Yeah, but the goalpost, like the shift happens. Like if you have an affinity for younger women. So then just do the math. So if Drake's 37 and likes women that are 20. Okay, well, when he was 25, he probably likes women that are.

[C]

I'm not giving you that. I'm not 17 now you sound crazy.

[D]

No, I'm just saying, like, if you, if you're thing is younger women crazy, it's just because he's getting older now he has the luxury of old for ex pedophiles.

[C]

Talking about, yo, you sound crazy. When he was 25, he was. He liked girls that. What are you talking.

[B]

I Don't even everything about pedophiles. I just don't think it like works in a stagger. That.

[C]

What is that? That's slam.

[B]

I think if you, if your thing.

[D]

Is younger women, when you're 23, you probably don't want to be with a 21 year old old girl. You probably want to be with a woman that's a girl that's 17, 16, because you like that dynamic of being that much older than your person that you're with. That's my point. So when you're 37. All right, she's 20, I'm 17 years older than her. Yeah, it's legal, it's cool. But like, yeah, she's still young as. But like there's a bigger gap then maybe you are. That's my point.

[B]

Maybe you're into grooming. I don't think that means.

[D]

Yeah, I think grooming is probably the more appropriate term to use, at least when it comes to this situation.

[B]

Like, I don't think if a 60 year old likes children, when that child becomes 30 and they're 90, they're like, oh, I like them now because they're 30. No, I think they liked the child.

[A]

By the way, they're calling Metro Boomin Metro Grooming. And I'm sorry, that's very funny, Larry.

[C]

Why are they calling him this old tweet?

[B]

So Metro's old tweets popped up and they're, they're, they're nasty even in the wild, wild west of Twitter.

[C]

But wasn't he young when he tweeted the whole.

[D]

These are albums from 2011.

[B]

Some of them he was underage, but.

[C]

Oh, I'm so. I just see 2011, 2012, 14.

[D]

Yeah, just a couple. She might be young, but she ready.

[B]

That's a good lyric.

[A]

No, though, what was in 2014?

[C]

He said she might be young. How was, how old was Metro booming in 2014?

[D]

But also, who's y'all like, who's also.

[B]

About in Alicia Keys song written by Drake.

[D]

Swag.

[B]

If we're being real, that might be young When I'm ready.

[D]

Out of context, he's all like, I mean, they don't look great at all, but like out of Cond. Who knows what the fuck he's referring to here? And there was also probably another lyric. Got your little sister on the Molly. She done ran through the whole squad. Like, I'm sure you just didn't randomly think that at 11am it's probably a lyric.

[A]

There was like a Miley Cyrus one that kept popping up like, he was.

[B]

Like, no, that was Mac Maine.

[A]

That was Mac Main.

[B]

That was Mac Main. That was his rollout.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

His rollout was MILEY Cyrus turning 18. That was nasty. Yeah. Anyways, though, like, aside from this conversation that, I mean, I'm glad we had, but was weird. I don't think anyone else is going to have that convo and I'm happy we did. But where does this go now? Now that we're talking about the rebrand and how he's going to come back? Pause. Is Drake putting out more music? I fully believe that he is not done here. I think he saw the reply to.

[C]

Do you think Drake is never going to put out music again?

[B]

No, I mean, in regards to this, like, direct, not just mentioning it on an album. I think he saw the reaction to Heart Part six. I don't think he feels the best about Hard Part six because I don't think he felt great making it. I can hear it knowing Drake and how he still holds on. He just pushed three years after he said he was done, like, unwarranted for no reason. Just because that's who Drake is. And I like my rappers, Petty and I like them to never forget shit.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I think we have a lot more Drake music on the way very soon.

[C]

I think that's a fair assumption. I mean, I think that in this moment, artists of these two, their caliber, I think this only gets them inspired creatively. And I think their minds are just on a wheel. They're thinking, they're writing, they're listening to a bunch of different music. They're creating, obviously, records. So, yeah, I think that this energy rolls over into album ep, something like that. Definitely with some of this energy still attached to it. I think that. I just think that. I think the sequence and the cadence of this thing changed, and I believe Drake is no longer, like, all right, I don't care what he's doing over there, I'm gonna make this. I'm gonna make what I'm making. I'm gonna create what I'm creating, and I'm going to drop that when I want to drop it, regardless of what he's doing. So he could put out 2, 3, 4, 5 records this week. This is. I'm. I'm over here creating this.

[B]

So, Connor, what Kendrick's strategy was?

[C]

Um, I don't know if that was Kendrick's strategy. I think Kendrick obviously prepped again, going back to the beginning of this thing. We knew that Kendrick hadn't. His tour was over in 2022. I believe he hasn't been really active since then. So he obviously had more time to prep for this thing. He had more time to think about it and to think about other different angles and how he was gonna come out of this, parlay that into his album and things like that. I think that Drake coming off of tour and jumping right into this, like I said, he would have to become a different person because this is a battle mode. This is not just Drake creating songs that he thinks the world is gonna love and accept. This is tailored for exactly specific individuals, a different energy that comes with this music. And I think that he's still in that mode of creating. I just think that he's not no longer releasing it as this is a shot. This is a missing. This is gonna be a. This is gonna be a complete thing. Cause even if you listen to Family Matters, Family Matters sounds like a record that would be on a Drake album or a Drake project.

[B]

Yeah, the beat for sure.

[C]

You know what I mean? Like the music changing up the way it did. That sounds very. That sounds very familiar coming from Drake.

[B]

I'm not even saying battle mode per se, or timing. I'm saying Kendrick's strategy of no matter what Drake says or does, I'm sticking to what I'm doing over here. After Family Matters came out. Meet the Grahams seven minutes later. No matter what he says after that, it was mad.

[C]

It mattered what he said. It definitely mattered what he said.

[B]

It goes back to our conversation.

[C]

Wasn't working. That's why Not Like Us came.

[B]

It did what it was supposed to do. It stepped on him and amazing.

[C]

But that's all it did.

[B]

Music but did you. To our conversation last episode. Drake over explaining gay validity. We have not even really addressed Kendrick's allegations. Because he won't. He's focused on what he's doing. No matter what Drake says, I'm putting out. Not like us. No matter what I'm putting out. Me, the Grams. I don't even need to hear what he's saying. I'm not going to talk about Dave Free. I'm not going to talk about my wife. I'm only focused on what I'm doing and my. About you.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think, yes, Drake should take that strategy. Don't be so reactive. Stick to your plan of what you want to do. Because clearly Kendrick's not addressing anything. And Kendrick. I'm sorry. And Drake is. Which has made him look more guilty, unfortunately.

[C]

I'm just.

[B]

I'm giving you perception.

[C]

Okay, that's fair.

[B]

So to what? So what you're saying with Drake going, taking a minute and maybe doing a EP or an album or whatever that's focused on. I don't give a fuck what Kendrick is saying or doing. I'm gonna do my shit. I'm gonna shoot at him and focus on my music. That's the strategy Kendrick had. That's where I think Drake should have stayed after Push Ups. I think he should have gotten in his mode of what he thought was he should have done. Even though I can feel feel for him. If somebody called me a pedo, I'd be sitting there like, well, new strategy, new strategy. But if he stayed focused, that's the. You keep asking why no one is looking for evidence or is pushing on Kendrick like, yo, how come he hasn't addressed any of this? If you've seen with every record he has not paid attention to one thing Drake has said and stayed with the records that he had recorded already. This is, this is my strategy going in horse blinders on. I'm just gonna post what I have. And it worked.

[D]

And last night Drake posted this to his story.

[B]

Shout out to Jeff Daniels.

[C]

A lot of members of me by a lot of people, many people a person needs to live with Beggar otherwise was born.

[D]

So it's it's an. It's a sequence from a show on Netflix that's basically it's about a real estate mogul that faces bankruptcy, political and business interests colliding and it's pretty much him defending his empire until the end. So with no caption Drake posts this and people are saying and this is what I not what I believe. I think he saw the public opinion saw that he's losing this here's don't and he notices how big don't like us has gotten. Not like us. Pardon me. And he's. He needs to he's not going to make the same mistake he made with Pusher. He has to double. You have to go at him. You can't disappear and let the if you let the public call it, you lost. And I don't think he wants to leave it up for people to make that decision. I think he wants to take matters into his own hands. Either win or go down with the ship with the whole home burning.

[B]

Yeah. And you and you can't say this is over the line now. That's why I'm not replying because you did that the last time and the line went no disrespect to 40. I hope your health is great. But dog, this is a way crazier line than mocking miss.

[C]

But did who. Oh, that was y'all. That said y'all felt like he was waving the white flag on the hard part six. Because I never felt like.

[D]

I didn't think that.

[C]

I feel like y'all said that Monday.

[B]

No, I felt like he said that in so many words.

[A]

Yeah, a few people. That was the theory. Because he said, you can go ahead drop autumn songs. You want to drop, like, basically like, you burnt out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, do what you gotta do.

[B]

Okay. I'm on vacation.

[A]

Like, yeah, I'm done with getting burnt out. It's burnt out.

[B]

You tell by his tone that.

[D]

And there were like, three separate lines on that song in itself where he was like, yeah.

[B]

And I mean, I think that could also be a strategy. When I heard it the first time, I was like, oh, is this his way of kind of doing a psych type of thing to make it look like this is done? Kendrick can relax. Go shoot your Not Like Us video. Go focus on that while I plot over here to make it look like I'm done. I could see that being a strategy. I thought he outright made it seem like, yo, I'm done with this. This was some fun exercise. Which was a crazy line to me.

[C]

Like, getting the pin working. It was a crazy line.

[B]

Yeah. It. All of it felt nasty. This is what you asked for. Now you're like, oh, yeah, I guess. Thanks for coming to the court. Like, I don't want to play.

[C]

Like I said, I think the cadence of it is what was like, we're waiting for you. You drop, I drop. I drop, you drop, then you drop again. And it's like. Because at some point you gotta ask yourself, all right, are we supposed to just keep. How long is this supposed to keep? Like, you drop a record, I drop a record. You drop a record, you drop two records, I dropped two records. How long we supposed to do that?

[B]

Would you feel that way if it was flipped? Let's say Drake looked like the victor. Would you be like, well, yeah, I mean, it's over now.

[C]

No, I still would feel. Because again, if we talking about a rap battle, this has been the most. Like, we haven't seen records, I think.

[B]

Come like Paul's, come like this mainstream, wise, underground rap.

[C]

So it was kind of that's. They do whatever the fuck they want.

[B]

Yeah. But it's kind of like every other fucking hour. It's like, God damn.

[C]

Yeah. So it's like this started to feel like that. And, you know, artists of Drake's. Max was like, all right, I'M not gonna entertain this book for so long. Like, what are we doing here? Like, so I think that was more. So the feeling on Hard Part six was like, all right, man. Like, I'm not gonna keep. This isn't gonna go on for another month and a half. Like, we're not gonna do this for another month. Like, that's the feeling I got. Not. I'm waving a white flag. I give up. Like, I didn't. I never got that tone from. From that record.

[B]

Let's go back to, I don't know, two months ago when it was the Cole, Kendrick, Drake possibility. And we all agreed that this was great because finally, in rap, this'll be a rap beef that won't go too far. Yeah, nobody's gonna get hurt. It'll stay on wax. Like, what a perfect time in Hip Hop 3 elites. No one's gonna hurt anyone. Everybody knows what time it is. And then two days ago, Drake's house gets shot up. Do we think this has anything to do with the Kendrick and Drake beef, or is this something else that was mentioned on Push Ups and Family Matters?

[C]

I think this was. I don't. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna dismiss it totally not having anything to do with the beef that's currently going on because the timing of it is just too. You know, it's like, you got to kind of think that. Think about that.

[B]

The Kendrick theory sounds very far fetched.

[C]

Yeah, but I'm not very far fetched. But I can understand in the height of all of this, how somebody would think that and throw that into the mix. Like, yo, could this be a part of this whole Kendrick Drake shit? I understand that, but those are the.

[B]

Things I don't believe that think Biggie shot Tupac, right?

[C]

Like, I'm not. I'm not one of those people, but I can understand how easy it is for people to feel that way. I think that this was, you know, just happened to be just a random somebody or some. Some people. It's not hard to figure out where Drake lives if you're from Toronto. And I think they just drove by his crib and just shot at it.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't think this was anything deeper than that.

[B]

I feel like if, like a Stan or quote unquote, clout chaser or someone along those lines would have made sure they filmed it so we knew they did it. I think only the crazy fan in this scenario would make sure that they could go to their Stan account and that Stan community and be like, yo, look. What?

[C]

I'm the one that did that.

[B]

So that's where I think this has nothing to do with Kendrick or some crazed fan, not some John Lennon, not trying to save Drake from his innocence.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I think it has a lot to do with an ongoing internal Toronto thing. I mean, we saw, and this is headline news. We're not breaking anything. Cash from Exo's house was shot, what.

[D]

Last week in LA on the 29th of April.

[B]

Who the knows? Because in the hills. That is crazy. It's happening all the time, so we don't know if that has to do with anything. But I can see this being more of a Toronto thing than it could ever be. Like, yeah, I don't think Kendrick, even though he said to Drake's mom, I hope he fucking dies, I don't really think Kendrick wants to harm him.

[C]

Yeah, no, I don't get that. But I'm not, I'm not. I'm not one of those people that's putting this on, this, this beef thing. This is definitely something totally separate from that.

[B]

But let's. All right, let's speculate that it's an internal Toronto thing. We don't have to put names to anything at all. I'm asking you as a civilian, what stat is that? That you shot a security guard outside of a mega mansion? Like what. What type of stat are you getting?

[C]

Yeah, but you can't even talk about that stat. Who can you even tell that statue?

[B]

And for what?

[C]

Like you did?

[B]

You did nothing. Yeah, yeah, and prayers to that security guard. I heard he is doing much better. Yeah, but he probably has a family. He's not sitting there trying to get shot.

[C]

Right? I don't, I don't think any of these gentlemen are trying to get shot.

[B]

Or even involved in this. I'm guarding Drake's house. It's my job.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Some petty back and forth at a crib. Yeah, I don't know, I found it a little weird. And granted, I don't know what happens behind the scenes. I know Toronto can get very dicey in certain places and certain people.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

But come on, what are we doing? Just shooting people's security guards outside their mega mansion?

[C]

Yeah, this is.

[B]

This is because of rap, right?

[C]

Yeah, this is, this is where, you know, again, even though I don't think this has anything to do with the, the rap, the beef or the battle, but this is where things can quickly, the energy can change quickly and be like, oh, shit, now this is something that we thought it wasn't going to be you know what I mean? Like, you talking about somebody shooting up one of the biggest stars or shooting at one of the biggest stars in the world's house, like, that's fucking insane in itself.

[B]

Can I give you my theory? And I don't want to put this on anyone at exo's jacket or anything like that, but we saw the theories online. Drake said you have no shooters, and then all of a sudden, someone shot. Cool. Not anything that I'm bringing to the table. If this does disappear, I think that does give that theory a little bit more credence. That is a very wealthy neighborhood. There's a fucking ring camera on every last block. I don't care if they got a stolen car, different plates. They're gonna figure out who the fuck did that.

[C]

Oh, yeah, without a doubt.

[B]

And if it ties back to somebody specifically and it disappears, I think that's saying a lot if we don't really hear from this and it doesn't end up being just some crazy kid that was just like, yo, let me go do this. So everyone knows my name.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And there's some type of tie back to somebody else. To somebody else. Somebody else is somebody else. I think we know who came from, and I see it disappearing. I don't know if we're gonna get a whole check. I don't think we're gonna get a bunch to go.

[C]

Yeah, I don't want to go that route. Like, I hope. I hope it's not. I hope it's not, because that's. Now we just, like, all right. Like, we back to this type of shit, you know? I mean, like, I don't. I hope so. I hope it's not that.

[B]

Do you think it was Lucian Grange.

[C]

By himself shot Drake's.

[B]

Chris, listen, man, we found out in paperwork that Jimmy Henchman went by himself during a banquet to shoot up Tony Ayo's mom's house. Anything is possible.

[C]

Revolution.

[B]

Like, no, some of these execs do they own dirt.

[C]

Yeah, but Jimmy is a different. He was doing that before. Before way before the music shit. Like, we ain't gotta. We ain't gotta talk about that.

[B]

Reading that paperwork was some of the craziest. Like, everyone knew there was a back and forth. Yeah, but when you read that paperwork from that snitch, they say, yeah, no, Jimmy left the banquet, say, yo, tell him I'm in the bathroom.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then came back to the banquet.

[C]

Different type of guy, man.

[B]

But did you see the other theory? Speaking of Lucian of UMG trying to shut this down for Drake's sake, which I think this was debunked, but, yeah, it was. We definitely can speculate that UMG is having a lot of conversations of where they want to go with.

[C]

They're both umg, right?

[B]

Yeah. Well, Kendrick is licensing, but still umg.

[C]

Yeah, I think I believe it. I could see why UMG would want to put an end to this. Definitely.

[B]

I think they wanted to drag a little bit more because clearly it's profitable, but at what cost?

[C]

That's why I'm saying I. I definitely believe that UMG reached out to both parties and had a conversation. What that conversation was about, what it entailed, I don't know, but I think that UMG definitely. Like, why wouldn't they. This is their. This is their. Their business partners. Like, they. Why wouldn't they want to intervene at some course, whether it's just to kind of gauge what's happening, what's going on. Like, how long is this thing supposed to go? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what's the energy? Is it turning into something different, else, personal? Obviously, things are being said that can then turn into something else that UMG will probably have to get behind and try to, like, fix. So I think that some. Somebody from UMG definitely reached out and had conversations. Um, now, whether or not they said, oh, stop or, yo, chill, or I'm. I don't think any of that. I think that UMG definitely reached out and had conversations with both parties to kind of just gauge this thing and understand exactly what's happening. How much longer is this supposed to go on?

[B]

I'm not even curious of what, like, the high execs are talking about, more so that for those that don't know, all the divisions of UMG ended up in one building because the music industry is minimizing as far as employees go. So I would just love to see the person that is working the Not Like Us record. We're, like, we're about to bring it to radio, and then someone from the PR team at Republic is like, you're gonna do what? Right, yeah, we want to work a record that's gonna get killed. Kill another one.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I want to know what that chaos looks like. But then again, UMG has had so many things on their jacket that they have not given a single about.

[C]

Exactly. But this is. This is. We know.

[B]

This is like, Lucian might have walked in.

[C]

They.

[B]

Oh, they called him a. What? A pedophile? They called me that. I don't care. I mean, they. They've been caught up in that whole. Before the Statue of Limitations, Diddy was in it. Cosby was in it again, UMG execs were in it too. This is nothing new. They've never really given a fuck about a moral standard. So I don't know if they care at all to end it.

[C]

Nah, they definitely care to end it. I don't think that that's what that call was about. I think that that call was probably just a temperature check.

[B]

Where you gonna take it?

[C]

Yeah, like, where's this going? What's happening? But I don't think that they're trying to intervene and stop because they feel like Drake is losing whatever they were saying Drake is losing. So UMG jumped in to stop it. Like, I don that that's what happened. I think that these are both vested interests of UMG and they're just checking in on these artists.

[B]

Is Drake compromised because he has even more invested interest with umg? Let's say hypothetically, he finds real evidence, not just a chick from Hard Rock Cafe talking about some Kendrick. He finds real evidence or real statements. Does he consult with UMG or just put it out?

[C]

No, he pushed that out.

[D]

You got to put that out.

[B]

Is that relationship. Because I'm sure Lucian and Drake are much closer than Kendrick and Lucian. We know it's a way different relationship there. Top probably has a better relationship with Lucian than Kendrick does. I don't know if Drake does that right away. I really think he has to have some type of conversation with his partner.

[C]

I think it's the opposite where it's. I think he does it and Lucia hits him with it. Lucian hits him with the Julian line. Come on. He calls traits like, come on.

[B]

It's just a distribution deal. But come on.

[C]

Why would you put that out? Like, that's. I don't think Drake is talking about, yo, I'm about to put this out, and you guys are. He's going to drop that, and then the text messages and the emails will come in after that.

[B]

Yeah, Lucian. We'll get him some more therapy. We'll figure it out.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Where it stands. I do. I think Drake's dropping next. Do you guys have any thoughts on, like, what's to come in terms of, like, releases?

[B]

I. I think similar to what?

[C]

Well, I think. Well, not to cut you over. To cut you off. I think that. I don't think Kendrick is dropping anything because not like us is what they're working right now. Yeah.

[B]

I think he's shooting the video. I think he has clips ready in case Drake drops But.

[C]

But he's not. He's not releasing anything until I think he's ready.

[D]

He doesn't need to drop because he's clearly up. So I think it's in Drake's court still.

[B]

I don't think Drake is dumb enough to think one record could change this. I think he's recording multiple and he's going to drop all those at the same time. I don't think Drake handles criticism well, which I think is why he's such a great artist. After. For all the Dogs, he got a lot of flack. Said I was done. Walked back in, said, noel, I'm not retired anymore. Here's seven more conductor records. And guess what won me the over immediately. I did not like for the dog. For all the dogs that scary our is incredible to me. Won me over. Like, all right, I was wrong. I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that's probably the only way. When I've been thinking about this the past few days, when people weren't dropping, I was like, all right, Drake's probably recording three songs a day, and he's gonna pick the best, however many of that, and we are gonna get a whole package of records, and then Kendrick's gonna have to deal with that. And I think Drake is gonna have two just on the side, just in case.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Again, one's gonna have a hit.

[C]

Changing the cadence of the thing, of this whole thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think is what Drake is gonna do next. Just change it. Like you said, Focus on what he's doing, what he's working. Fuck. If Kendrick is putting out records, and when he's putting them out, you go in your Batcave, create your piece of art and give it to the people. When you feel like it's done and you're ready to give it to people.

[B]

Before we move on. Because I know it's been almost an hour, but this is what the fuck is happening.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think anyone's complaining.

[B]

I wanted to bring up a theory last episode. I forgot, but I did tweet it. Do you think there is a world where the mole is actually the opposite and Drake was fed misinformation about the Dave Free and Whitney kid situation?

[C]

No. I think you got your aluminum foil.

[B]

On, but no, because where does one find out that information? I'm speculating because I could see a world where somebody could feed that to Drake because it sounds, like, ridiculous.

[C]

Yeah. But what if this is something that he's known or heard for a few years?

[D]

True.

[B]

I mean, I know everyone speaks with.

[C]

Him Somebody sent the mole three years ago.

[B]

But I, I, I do think Drake, even though I've been giving him shit, is calculated and doesn't really move on shit unless he knows it to be a fact. I think he's proven that in his career and done very well at it. I think he, he would need more than just industry gossip to be like.

[C]

Yo, that's not, he's not.

[B]

And the fact that he was sitting on that and that was his nuke and he thought it was going to go better than what it did. I feel like maybe a mutual friend could have confirmed that to Drake with the purpose to mislead him.

[C]

I think that's part of why this whole the perception of who's up, who's winning or not right now is because I think Drake is operating off of that. Like, I'm not saying shit unless I know it's a fact.

[B]

Yeah. Where in a rap battle, in a.

[C]

Rap battle, people don't even care about what the facts are.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's just whatever they think sounds good or whatever sticks. Whatever sticks. You know, people looking for a reason to, like, yeah, fuck him, we never liked him anyway. Whatever it is. I think that that's what matters more than beef, where I think that in a honorable, but, like, maybe not so beneficial way, I think Drake still was approaching this with integrity.

[B]

Like, I'm not gonna integrity within a rap battle. I'm gonna say some wild shit about you, but at least it's true.

[C]

But it's gonna be true. You gonna say wild shit about me? That's not true. But people are gonna, you know, sing to it and jump up and down to it. Okay, cool, whatever. That's where I think this is. I think that he had a little integrity, a little bit of more morals and saying, I'm not gonna put something on somebody if I don't have enough to believe that this is 100% true.

[B]

And I'm in the middle of that where I don't know who's telling the truth. I think both people need to prove it or both people don't. Like, I don't know these people. I'm not going to say one side is saying facts and one isn't, because I really have no idea. I'm on. All right, this is sticking. And this is not sticking because I really don't know y'all.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And on the other end of that, one of Kendrick's friends from Compton, who's featured on To Pimp A Butterfly album cover, did respond to your clip mall and say that not only confirmed that there's a daughter, but she just celebrated her birthday. They have photos of her, but they're worried for her safety to put any information about. About her.

[C]

Wait, what? Yeah, yeah, somebody. That was on Kendrick's album cover.

[A]

I think it's T Row.

[B]

No, they were talking to T Row.

[A]

They were talking to.

[C]

He said Drake has a daughter. They.

[D]

They. They're still. They're tripling down. They're confirming that it's true, but it's more of like. We don't want to put it out for a safety issue.

[B]

Do you want to play the clip or no?

[D]

Yeah, we could play it. There you go. Because they play Moss clip in it. So I'll skip Mall one and he's.

[C]

Going for it in my run is me being any dirty girl. She's been engaged for years. You're not Marri. You living in New York. She's not. Let's talk real. All this 11 year old daughter y'all talking about.

[B]

I really don't think this is crazy as people made it out to be family matters.

[C]

It's a better. Get the out of here.

[B]

Is probably the best song in this whole.

[C]

It ain't no probably that's released in this entire. See, that's when we gotta get in.

[A]

Oh, they said you gotta get down.

[B]

I don't think they was really being.

[C]

Serious to the world. That girl just had a birthday. That's all I'm gonna say. And that ain't her in the video. We know that already. He didn't break nothing with that.

[B]

With what?

[C]

That's not her in the video.

[A]

Oh, yeah, no, I think he's addressing like when you said that he had pictures of the little girl like trolling you in the video when it was like, those pictures have been there for years.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't want to cut you off because you was cooking, but that was debunked. Those. Those photos had been at that spot since 2021.

[A]

That wasn't.

[B]

So that wasn't like an Easter egg of like, that's the girl. Okay, but they're.

[C]

I stand corrected.

[B]

But they're suggesting that the girl does exist and she just had her 11th birthday.

[D]

Let's finish real quick.

[C]

Do y'all realize that these is all California niggas?

[B]

Of course it's back on Fig.

[C]

They supposed to look like they don't.

[B]

Back on fig.

[C]

Yeah, they supposed to like the record. Shout out to T Row.

[B]

Yeah, of course. But I mean, they're. They're close to TDE and are suggesting that that's not cap. Like no matter what Drake says everybody is aware within that circle. And I'm not saying Kendrick couldn't be feeding people the same shit the same way we've accused Drake of feeding the media with certain narratives. I think Kendrick's been doing it too. I think they've all been using bots. They could be feeding fig that information. I don't know. But they are suggesting that that is 100 true.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I also just don't think it's as crazy as everyone else because I think a superstar could have an 11 year old kid he doesn't know about.

[C]

I don't think so.

[D]

Especially when he already like it's not just the. It's not just the. The bomb. It's like it comes with weight to it. Like he already did the route of hiding a kid. Like there's plausible. It makes sense. He did it once. Why wouldn't he do it again? He did maul.

[C]

He did not know if that kid was his during that battle. Like I don't understand how y'all not comprehending. I think he was in the middle of a paternity.

[D]

He had to have known.

[B]

Bro.

[D]

What do you but point by the time we learned who Adonis was he was how like why wouldn't this have all been figured out long before then? Why did it all spark? Because Pusha T named like got some info.

[C]

It didn't spark. It was going on. It was. It was a paternity suit going on. He was trying to figure out if that was his kid or not. That was information that was given to a woman that had a relationship with Pusha as well. But he did not know definitively if that was his kid or not yet. Like I just don't understand how people don't know that part of it.

[B]

Like I don't know the timing of that. I thought he knew at that point but was just not ready to tell everyone. Which would be. Which would have been fine.

[C]

Which would have been fine.

[B]

I said last episode. He may know about this 11 year old. It could be true. And had an agreement with that child's mother that this one is going to be hidden. I don't want anything to do with what the fuck is going on with your life right now.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I just. I don't. I don't see that. If you have a kid at this point. What does it matter if you have another kid?

[B]

Because that mother or that side of the family could be like nah. Be part of her life. But we don't Want to be in the mix of this entire thing. We don't want to get caught up in this. Be in her life, but don't promote it.

[C]

I just feel like this dude is too big of a star for people not to know if he really has a kid or not. I just don't see. I don't see you being able to, to, to hide that for 11 years, 12 years. I just don't see that.

[B]

Bruce Jenner did it. For as long as I can remember, I didn't even know he had a whole other family.

[C]

Yeah, but you also not. Bruce Jenner is not a. The star the size of.

[B]

He ran away from that family immediately.

[C]

I see what you think. I get it.

[B]

I was probably like 28, I think. I think Bruce had became Caitlyn. When I found out, I was like, oh, he has like seven other kids.

[C]

Yeah, but that's been.

[D]

I only know about Brody.

[A]

Shout out to Brody.

[D]

And that's because like Eve put a camera in there. You're part of this too, putting together here.

[C]

No, we're not putting it together.

[B]

No. You're not seeing the.

[C]

No. Okay, but I just think that 21.

[B]

Right down the street from Kylie, Rick.

[C]

Has a 12 year old daughter. I just don't know. I don't see that. I don't see that being real. No star that big being able to hide a kid for 12 years. I don't see that.

[D]

What?

[C]

I mean, I just don't see it. Especially when you already have one that people thought you was hiding. You think they wouldn't have been found that other one by now?

[B]

Okay, let's. Let's go off the rumors of hov paying certain people to just keep it under wraps.

[C]

My rumors and shit.

[B]

I just, it's, it's a.

[C]

This is not the National Enquirer, bro. I'm not going entertain gossip and shit on fucking random blogs, bro. That's not real.

[B]

But what if the kid looks just like and it's from like the same neighborhood?

[C]

I can't entertain like that, bro. I don't read the National Enquirer. I don't.

[B]

I don't know if that was in the Inquirer per se, but.

[C]

What?

[B]

Maybe Page Six.

[C]

Definitely an inquiry.

[D]

Page Six.

[B]

All right, well, the future remains to be seen. Bad segue.

[C]

Terrible.

[B]

But I mean we're looking forward to see what happens with the Drake and Kendrick thing. But then we're moving on to future and gunna. Right, So I was doing a news segue.

[C]

I got it.

[B]

The future.

[C]

I got it.

[B]

Wasn't sure. Everyone over your head.

[C]

No, no, wait.

[B]

Everyone's been breaking down lyrics. I wasn't sure.

[C]

I don't need it.

[B]

You don't need Rob Markman for this one.

[D]

There was a gun at Drake's house.

[C]

Got you.

[B]

See?

[D]

Come on.

[C]

But you said not see. I thought that's what he just said. All right.

[B]

Anyways, Future and Gun are going back and forth.

[C]

Oh, God.

[B]

How did this start? This is not my expertise, so I'm fine coming in here without information.

[C]

This is what happens when, you know, beef is going on or. Or like, you know, a battle is happening. Then you get people in the crowd that's be like, yo, but what he laughing at? He laughing too hard. Yeah. It's that type of.

[B]

This is that I don't insert myself into this.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Which, by the way, side note, we don't have to talk about it. I do want to see Game and Ross go back and forth, but neither here nor there.

[D]

I do too.

[C]

On records.

[B]

We predicted that years and years and years ago.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

And we could finally settle our dispute.

[C]

I don't know if we Game gonna. Yeah.

[D]

Game watch.

[B]

Game is gonna tear him up. And I love Ross, but. Nah. I would Game different bro in the. Ross can make better music. I'm not arguing that. Yeah, but that's a different arena. Game is going to tear Ross apart. You see, Ross has been quiet. He'll be loud with Drake. But with Game now, Ross is. Ross is old enough.

[C]

I want to see that. You guys think so? Just so we could get some. Some. Some Game records with that energy on it.

[B]

You guys think Kendrick dropping four songs in two days was crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Game is gonna drop 50 records in one day.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He's been writing about Ross his whole career, his whole life. So I actually hope to see that one manifest itself on record.

[C]

It'll be good to get some games. Some Game records and listen.

[B]

Game disses people for no reason. If he has a reason, it's gonna go left.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyways, though, can someone inform me about this Gun and Future thing? This is not my wheelhouse. Well, I thought they were friends. I thought Atlanta was. Kendrick said Atlanta's all together. He said that they're all there for to just take the sauce.

[C]

Yeah. I didn't. I didn't know what this. I didn't know about this until Julian walked in.

[D]

This is like residual falling out from the thug trial. And I think futures caught up and feels a way about Ghana being out while Doug remains in this situation. I Think there's still some division amongst that whole crew.

[B]

Why didn't he just say that before then? Because he has a mixtape coming out and Gonna has an album. He's gonna say it. Why didn't you say it before?

[C]

And they're both dropping tonight.

[A]

It's giving pr.

[D]

Yeah, to me.

[C]

They're both dropping tonight.

[B]

They probably friends. This is probably nothing. So I'm sure Gunn is fine with all the thug is inside jokes and was like, future, just say something. I'll say something back. I think this is behind the scenes bullshit.

[C]

I mean, I wouldn't say bullshit, but it's not gonna hurt the situation.

[B]

Yeah, I think they are in cahoots, as the whites would say.

[C]

I don't know about cahoots because I don't think Future. Future doesn't need that. Not right now.

[B]

Nor does Gonna. But I think they're both a little worried if these were the release dates. What they have to have to deal with. The fact that they're dropping music right now is brave of them. We're not knowing what's about to happen between Drake and Kendrick. I wouldn't drop an R B song right now. I wouldn't drop. Taylor is is shook right now.

[D]

Yeah, she's the number one.

[C]

Yeah, she's not losing no sleep over this.

[B]

Taylor Swift would have definitely moved her album release if it was happening this Friday.

[D]

Nah, nah.

[C]

Why? She would have moved it.

[B]

I think this is pretty big with Kendrick and Drake going back and forth. I think this is the only thing.

[C]

That could ever get coming out tonight. You think she would move it?

[B]

I think she would have been moved it if they had that on the calendar before we knew.

[D]

Didn't her album come out the same day as Futures and Metros? That. That started this whole thing?

[B]

Pretty sure. What point would that be?

[D]

No, I'm just saying I don't think.

[C]

It was the same day.

[B]

No, I don't think even if it was, who cares?

[C]

I'm saying two different audiences.

[B]

If Taylor had this date and had not announced it, I think she would step back for a second. It's a lot going on.

[C]

I don't think so. I don't think her audience is at all impacted by what's going on.

[D]

Well, looking at Gunna's track list, we have. What do we have here? 20 records, a couple features, few features. One from Offset and then Leon Bridges in a Roddy Ricch feature.

[C]

Roddy Rich feature.

[D]

Oh, Normani as well.

[C]

What is Roddy Richmond up to?

[A]

I miss him.

[B]

Me too. I like Roddy but he just had a few duds. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. He said they were duds. I've been waiting for some new Roddy music. I think it's possible to put out Dud and still be great. So I'm excited to hear the Roddy joint.

[A]

It's also hard. So when your debut album is that good with that many hits, it's hard to top it.

[B]

I mean, the second one just fell flat like, it just wasn't good, which he said in an interview. I'm glad he took this time to just step aside and make people miss him. But Gunner coming back this quick is. It's kind of crazy.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah. To say the least. I mean, I'm sure he was just.

[C]

But this is the mixtape, though, right?

[D]

No, no, his is an album.

[B]

Futures Future has put out three. Three albums in two months. Yeah, he's cooking, but he's one of those that I think has a thousand records on his hard drive that he forgot about. And then one night they plug it in like, oh, we should put this out.

[C]

Yeah, let's just. Let's just empty this out. Yeah.

[B]

So I think a mixtape makes sense. I think doing the second joint with Metro was also clearing out what they had. Let's just get the rest of the shit out the way.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know. I mean, not really my. My thing, but I'm gonna listen.

[D]

I do think it's safe to say at some point there will be some shots directed Drake's way from the Future mixtape.

[B]

I don't know, because I feel like what Drake said on Family Matters debted their beef, I don't think. I think we're gonna get Future in Drake music soon. He said on the show, we've never had a real issue. It was someone else in his ear. And we know Drake to be very petty. So I feel like they had a full conversation on the phone already, and him and Future are in a great place.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, that was the one person through this all that I always said it seems like the door and opportunity is still open for them to still work together. His Future.

[B]

Sorry for going back to Kendrick, but since we're on Atlanta artists. And speaking of not like us, do you think any Atlanta artists took that offensively?

[C]

Took what offensively?

[B]

When he was trying to break down that Drake goes to Atlanta to just grab from the culture and take it back. Do you think anyone from Atlanta would take that offensively? Like, you think we just let Drake come down here and steal our sauce and then leave. He even was like, Yo, 2 Chainz knows it, but he won't say it. Like, if I'm an Atlanta artist, I could see how someone could get offended at that. You saying Drake just came down here and robbed us and then left? And we just sitting here like, no, we like Drake.

[C]

It's because it wasn't true. It's not what he did.

[B]

But I'm saying as an Atlanta artist, I could see someone shooting back at Kendrick. The fuck are you talking about? We didn't let him do anything.

[C]

Nah, not shooting back because of that. I don't think that warrants you to shoot back because you didn't like that line. Like, I mean, you could say something about it, but to get in the booth and make a record based around that, that's just like, all right, now somebody else wants to jump in on this shit. And it's just. That's when I'm off it. At that point, I'm just like, once that starts happening, I'm cool.

[B]

I think Kendrick got lucky on how that was perceived because he had the momentum and because it was Drake and everyone couldn't wait to call him a culture vulture. That could have went another way. Knowing Atlanta and the pride that they have that they is well fucking deserved, the Atlanta pride, to say some Canadian came down here, stole our sauce and left it. Like, what you trying to say about us? Yeah, that scheme could have went like another way.

[C]

To sit back and watch that.

[B]

Yeah, like, what the fuck? Atlanta would never let that happen.

[C]

Yeah. No.

[B]

So I don't know, which is why.

[C]

That was just crazy to begin with. But I get this about them. Say whatever it.

[B]

Well, either way, the Gun of Future Beef is not one I'm really looking towards.

[C]

Now, hold on now, because when it was Gun and Thugs album coming out around the same time, we see where everybody stood on. On which side was the better project. Who do you think we had a better project? Future or gonna.

[B]

Gonna I again? Because I think it's clearing the hard drive out. After the last two Metro albums, I don't think it's a fair comparison. I think it's gonna be a lot of throwaway joints on this Future mixtape. And Gunna, I think, put together an album. So I'm gonna go with Gun. I just don't think it's a fair fight.

[C]

I don't know, man.

[D]

Future, I like Future more.

[B]

Gunna's last album was Fire.

[C]

Oh, no, it was.

[B]

But I mean, you think he's coming back this quick? With some.

[C]

I think when Future has the opportunity to just make a mixtape and, like, just let records go and there's no, like. I mean, there's still a direction. It's still like, you know, but it's not so overthought. It's just like joints here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that's tough to. That's tough to beat when you talking about just a mixtape of Futures records that he just put together. Nah.

[B]

Does one of one have the producers yet on Wikipedia? Because Maul had a very interesting point at the beginning of this entire thing. When Gunna came out, we saw that that clip and Maul had said, yo, I don't know who in Atlanta is going to work with him? Like, fuck what the public thinks. Is he going to get features from people in Atlanta? Is he going to work with Atlanta producers?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now that A gift and a curse went crazy. He had a number one record. Seems like people are starting to like Gunna more.

[C]

You just want to eat, man. I get that beef. But it's like, yo, fam, we could bust a bag together. I don't care about none of that.

[B]

I see Normani, I see Leon Bridges. I see where he's trying to go with different sounds. But who's the producers on? Yeah, on the next one.

[D]

Well, we only. It doesn't say on the next one, but on his return, Turbo was definitely. It seemed to be the most involved with these record, so. And he looks like he's on at least the single, one of the singles that came out for this upcoming one. But to your point, with a quick turnaround, this album, A Gift and a curse, came out June 16 last year. So not even a year.

[B]

We're getting another album and one that connected. Usually people do that when shit doesn't connect, right? So I'm looking forward to it.

[C]

I like under. I mean, you know, it remains to be seen if we got to completely do away with them.

[B]

He made Damaris cry at the Barclays Center.

[D]

That was cry.

[C]

What happened?

[B]

Oh, no. You said someone was crying.

[A]

Well, like, what's like, look at your narratives, bro.

[B]

We record this. Didn't you say you were crying or someone was crying?

[D]

Said you said it shed a tear.

[A]

Oh, I think I did, yeah.

[B]

I'm not making up.

[A]

I think I might have said I was emotional, like, seeing his return and everybody like, except him got you like that. Possibly. I don't know. I'm open to being wrong, but it was a good show.

[D]

Crying to you mean, is crazy.

[C]

That's like this. This person needs Some therapy. You're crying the. You mean it's like, all right, what's going on?

[B]

I mean, but. What do you mean?

[C]

Yeah, but, like, what's going on?

[A]

No, but that ass.

[C]

What's going on in the house?

[D]

I was gonna say sb.

[B]

I mean, that is the. The entire point of therapy. What do you mean? And sometimes it's me.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Therapist.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.

[C]

Crying show is crazy. Like, yo, what? You could have stayed home.

[B]

Like, no, that's the people that need to be there.

[C]

Like, cry this out in the crib, in the shower somewhere. But, like, don't come to the Barclays with the cries.

[B]

Oh, please.

[C]

For Gunner. Come on, man.

[B]

You've definitely cried when Oskino came out one time.

[D]

One time.

[C]

Wow. To think that. To think one time. What song would it be?

[B]

I don't know. My tears.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

You tell me.

[C]

Yeah, I'm probably crying crazy.

[B]

Did you guys watch the greatest roast of all time? Tom Brady.

[D]

I watch it live.

[A]

I watched the highlights.

[B]

As someone that has watched pretty much every roast that was on Comedy Central, I was nervous when they titled it this way. I agree with them. This was the greatest roast that ever happened.

[D]

Yeah. This is amazing.

[B]

Three hours long.

[C]

The greatest, though. You haven't seen all the roast. To say this is the greatest.

[B]

I've seen sets that are, like, the greatest. I mean, you could get down to Jamie Foxx on Roast, but which hole.

[C]

Is Patrice O'Neill on?

[B]

Patrice was on. Oh, God.

[C]

Whose roast was that?

[B]

William Shatner. No. William Shatner might have just been there. It might.

[D]

Charlie.

[C]

Charlie Sheen.

[A]

Oh, now, that was the greatest roast of all time.

[B]

Charlie Sheen, one was crazy. Pam Anderson, one was crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Rob Lowe was hilarious. Rob Lowe's the Trump one was there. That could have been funnier.

[D]

Bieber's was very good.

[B]

Bieber's was good. But I don't know. When you get into, like, the Greg, Geraldo, Patrice O'Neill phase, that's different. Franco's was pretty funny.

[D]

Yeah. I love this one, but I think.

[C]

This one was crazy.

[D]

Yeah, that was nice.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, at the height of Tiger.

[D]

Blood, couldn't have picked a better time to put him into the fire.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And no one laughed at my Two and a Half Men joke I made on the last podcast.

[A]

We probably didn't catch it. It was a lot of screaming.

[B]

Dave Free and Kendrick with the kid. Two and a Half Men.

[A]

Oh, I caught that. I giggled.

[C]

Got it.

[D]

I giggled.

[B]

I mean, it's not funny if you have to repeat It.

[C]

Yeah, but that is law.

[B]

I lost. I lost sleep about it. Me and Cole.

[A]

All right, all right.

[D]

We almost made. No, we all.

[C]

Dreamville festival over here.

[B]

I saw him at the beach, too.

[D]

I was going to say you look at my king while you guys.

[B]

I saw him at the beach while.

[D]

You guys are slinging.

[B]

I liked. I liked his briefcase with the laptop.

[D]

Yeah, beating your wives and beating pedos. Look at our king.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Beach life.

[A]

Best life.

[B]

Who took the photo? Who's. Who's that with him?

[D]

Whitney.

[A]

I think the girl was with somebody. Stop. I think the girl was with somebody. I think he was by himself.

[B]

Or was that one of those time cameras with the tripod? I'm just trying to throw smut on his jacket, get him into the beat.

[D]

Someone said this is. Someone said this why I love, like, colit. They're so obnoxious. Someone said. Now, Drake, this is how you take photos with an underage girl.

[C]

What?

[D]

Exactly. Like, why bring that up?

[C]

It's fucking insane.

[B]

I hate the Internet so much. I love it.

[C]

Anyways, Cole would be on a beach with a fucking laptop in a briefcase.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Maybe he's betrayed.

[C]

Exactly what J. Cole would be doing.

[B]

You don't think that'd be a great place to write?

[C]

No, that's a. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what he would be doing.

[B]

I'm sure he. Great. 32 came out. Came out of that entire.

[C]

Oh, no. For sure. Whatever that shit is plugged into. I know it's some shit. For sure.

[B]

Cool. Writing without WI Fi. You know, it's crazy, but it's crazy because.

[C]

I don't want to hear that.

[D]

Stop.

[C]

I don't want to hear.

[B]

What if he talks about just reflecting on a beach.

[C]

It doesn't say that, man. I don't want to hear that. I just can't. Bro. That's cold, man. That was. We thought he was one of them, man. It's just.

[D]

Well, he picked a beautiful spot. This looks incredible.

[C]

Oh, no, it's amazing. Listen, that's some super cool that he doing. Let me be very clear. That is some. Some. Some peaceful. I'm chilling. I'm not with a bunch of. I'm chilling. I'm not mad at that. But whatever he cooking up in that brief, I don't want to hear it.

[A]

Whatever he cooking up in that brief.

[C]

In that brief, I don't want to hear what he. What he cooking up in that briefcase.

[B]

See, that's not.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know, they try to find what beach that Is and shoot it up, you know, Shooting up the beach. No, after you left, you know how.

[C]

Upset you got to be to shoot up, you know?

[B]

You know somebody sprayed up those rocks for tick tock.

[C]

Crazy, man.

[B]

No, the fans are crazy. You know, you haven't noticed that in the last.

[C]

No. 1. Trust me, I've noticed that the last 48 hours. I've noticed it extremely. How crazy?

[B]

Yo, I think.

[C]

I think crazy insane.

[B]

We do we owe an apology to the Barbs?

[C]

Why?

[D]

No, no.

[C]

Hell no.

[A]

The Llamas.

[B]

I don't know, man. We. No, I'm just saying all of us. I think we only look in the mirror, though.

[C]

Those is all new recruits. These niggas ain't real.

[A]

From the moment before.

[C]

They just don't like Drake.

[A]

No before.

[C]

That's all it is. They just don't like Drake.

[D]

These niggas ain't.

[C]

Ain't real.

[A]

Kendrick fans, before the beef even started happening, when like, that dropped, the Llama fans came out, like, immediately. No, that they. He has a gang of them, and they're the worst.

[B]

I mean, he sells 400, 000 anytime.

[C]

But they're not how many arenas.

[B]

He has the highest.

[C]

They're not like how they are right now. These people that are on the. That they're on. On the Internet right now. These are just people that just don't like Drake.

[B]

They're. They don't like Drake and they're fans of the Internet. Yeah, they're fans of, like, just doing what the Internet is doing at the time.

[A]

But I'm not talking about them.

[B]

I'm the actual thing should apologize to the Barbs because we all became Bar. Not for the right reasons. Barbs are true and loyal to the soil. No matter what happens, they're going to act this way no matter what. We've all been acting like barbs the last week for no real reason. These aren't our guys.

[C]

Who's been acting like a bar?

[B]

The whole genuine population.

[C]

I've been acting like a Barb.

[B]

I mean, you screamed. Barb screamed online.

[D]

Like in this room.

[C]

I screamed at y'all no matter what we talking about. Cause y'all just piss me off sometimes with the dumb. Y'all say I'm a barb for Chris Brown, too.

[B]

Like I'm saying we're screamed at y'all about that. We. We owe them an apology. We became them and not. Not for anything we're really loyal to.

[C]

No, I'm not online DMing people cursing them out. So I'm not a part of that Barb at all. Not my. Not my. Not my. Not my thing. I don't do that. But I'll talk here with y'all, though, all day.

[D]

Okay, well, back to talking and focused on Tom Brady. Favorite sets from the Rose. You guys have any?

[C]

Nikki?

[B]

Yeah, Nikki Glaser was great shout out to women.

[C]

She was funny.

[B]

I mean, out of three hours, it is tough to say that the standouts were obviously Nikki Glazer.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Tony and Tony Hinchcliffe were incredible. But I think even, like, the athletes did okay.

[D]

Julian Edelman was amazing.

[B]

He was hilarious. Bill Belichick, even though you could tell he was nervous as. And he was out of his element, killed.

[C]

Well, who wrote it for him?

[B]

Well, they have a. Anyone.

[C]

No matter what they said, they sent them these jokes.

[D]

Oh, yeah. There's, like. Even with that, though, you still have to be able to perform and deliver. Like, I. I was listening to flagrant because Schultz was telling. Recapping this whole moment.

[B]

Schultz the Great, by the way.

[D]

And he.

[B]

Yeah, Schultz, good.

[D]

He had the worst set. He closed it. Like, by that time, you're crossing off all your jokes. Like, how many things can you really say about Giselle at that point?

[B]

So, like, I know he. He smoked it with Gronkowski, Edelman, and one other name, and he said, that sounds like a law firm, not a receiving core, and, oh, you're going to need one with your divorce. I. Schultz smoked it.

[D]

Yeah. But he said Edelman and Bledsoe were going to. They were doing spots at the Cellar. Like, they were. They were practicing their set. So he said it was cool working with athletes of that caliber. They kind of had the mindset where to become a great athlete. You watch game tape, you do the thing, you see great people, and then you go out there and try it yourself. So they kind of treated this whole experience like that. And he said that's. That's why he thinks they did so well.

[C]

That's dope. I mean, because, you know, you can write jokes, but if you don't have that timing.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That comedic timing. So you need to. You need to be on stage a couple times and get those jokes off and understand when the audience is laughing, when to come back in with the next joke. Like, it's just. So that's dope to know that. They actually took time to hit some comedy clubs and. And work on the material.

[B]

And this one being live, I'm not sure because I've never been to a roast live, but some of, like, the podcast and interviews I've seen sometimes they'll redo jokes or redo a set. These athletes had to do that live.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's tough. They couldn't take a break to be like, all right, let me reset and do something. So Randy Moss was hilarious. Everyone was great in this entire thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is rare with Roast, because sometimes the celebrities really suck, even with the writers that they have.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, Tony Hitchcliffe used to write for the older roasts, and I think he was on Rogan talking about him writing for Ann Coulter and, like, how much she would refuse to take any joke that he would write her and then went up there and bombed like you could not believe. Not one fucking laugh.

[C]

Is this the first. Is this the first roast that was on Netflix?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah. And Live. Yeah.

[B]

Which I hope they keep, because, I mean, on Comedy Central, you could only take it so far.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The Justin Bieber one. They tried to push a little bit for cable, but if it stays on Netflix, I think we have a whole new world of Roast Battle.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, they. They let the two of our favorite words because they said they went for it. So it was great news, jokes, everything.

[B]

I commend. I commend Kim Kardashian for going, because, you know, if I'm Kim Kardashian and I'm going, I'm going to be the butt of a lot of jokes.

[D]

No pun.

[A]

That was good.

[D]

Nice.

[B]

I actually didn't even see. I didn't put that. Such a genius. I don't even know my own powers.

[C]

Getting frustrated at God, like, oh, why do you keep doing.

[B]

You don't even know how to use your own powers. I. I respect her for going. Even though she bombed and they booed, she held it down and laughed through all the jokes about her. That's commendable.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But they tore Tom Brady the up.

[C]

Yeah. And getting. And getting like. Like, defensive at a gross. Like, and start. That's. That's. That's worse.

[B]

The only person I've seen do that was Ludacris at Justin Bieber's roast.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Ludacris was, at the end of that day, is going, oh, I didn't know they were making jokes about me. I thought this was about Justin. Ludacris looked like he had never even heard of a roast in his life. He was only there because he was on Justin's first record ever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And he did okay. When he went up. I think he might have went first. And after that, was sitting there like, yo, what the. You want to fight? Like, I didn't know this was a joke.

[C]

I say me.

[B]

I thought it was a Justin Bieber.

[A]

I say, fuck me.

[C]

I say, fuck me.

[D]

Brady did say. And I learned this again from listening. Brady said there were two things that were off limits. It was his kids and talking about the Belichick massage thing.

[B]

Well, he did go up to Jeff Ross and, yeah. Said, don't say that again. Like, in the middle of it when it was live, which I don't think they cut out because I watched.

[D]

No, that was live. They didn't count that.

[C]

What did Jeff say?

[D]

Jeff made a tag. Like, a tag joke about the massages.

[B]

So. Which is true. Tom Brady, when he went to the Patriots, went up to Robert Kraft, and this is a true quote. Said, I'm the best decision that this organization has ever made. Which is a true quote. Jeff Ross was quoting that. And then at the end said, but would you like a massage? Because Robert Kraft got caught at, like, a nasty massage parlor in Fort Lauderdale, wherever the fuck it was. Like, what. What are you doing here?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I wouldn't even go there.

[C]

That's still insane when you think about it. Like, as much money as Robert Kraft has.

[B]

He was at the.

[C]

You left your house and your crib to drive. Drive to this massage.

[B]

The thrill, I guess I think at that point, like, you're so rich. There's no thrill of a coming to your house. No, you got to go to her element.

[C]

Nah, man. That's going to the trap. Going to the massage trap is crazy when you work for Billy.

[D]

But that happened so early in.

[B]

That was owned by the zoes, for sure.

[C]

100.

[D]

That moment happened so early in the roast that people thought, like, Tom was kind of threatening to shut down the whole thing after that, because that was a very hard line. Do not mention that or his kids.

[B]

Speaking of Edelman, I was watching a clip of his podcast on the way here. He had Drew Bledso on. Everyone knows that there was obviously tension with Brady and Belichick, but it's not as serious as people think. The real tension is Belichick and Robert Kraft.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's past Kendrick and Drake. Yeah, that's on site. So they were in the green room, like, the whole Patriots team having a good time. Brady and Belichick were having a good time. Everyone's drinking. Robert Kraft walked in, and they say, yo, you could. The energy in there was. You could rip a piece of paper with that energy. Everyone walked over to Kraft, and Bledsoe was like, well, I was just sitting there because Belichick was telling a story. And if I kept walking, he would have been telling the story to nobody. I don't even know what Bill was saying. I just wanted to stand next to him because everyone was like, Mr. Kraft, Mr. Craft.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And Bill was. He's 10 toes.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

He's not walking across that green room.

[C]

No.

[B]

And he's Bill Head. So it was just like. What were you saying, Bill?

[C]

Yeah. I'm stuck here now.

[D]

I'm listening.

[C]

That's funny.

[B]

Edelman has a great podcast, by the way. Yeah. If anyone is into football specifically, or sports in general. Julian Edelman's podcast, Gronk, is on there a lot, but it is mostly Edelman's. You were the first. Really?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Alumni. Where do they shoot that at? Wtf?

[A]

They started the whole new set and now they shoot out of.

[B]

Okay, I was about to say it definitely looks like a different set now. Interesting. Well, do we have voicemails?

[D]

We do.

[C]

You've got mail.

[D]

In the spirit of rap beef. And everybody the same women. This one falls right into rap beef.

[B]

That's the industry.

[D]

True.

[C]

That's called living.

[B]

Yeah. That's exist. That's existing in this world with the pod heavy.

[C]

But I need some advice. So I'm in a weird predicament. My little homie, I haven't seen him in two, three years. Asked me to kick it. We both played ball together. I moved, I came back home, you know, haven't seen him in a while, but I'm in a strange predicament. His girl right now used to be, you know, one of my eaters back in the day. We broke it off, everyone's moved on. How do I tell him that? He's been with her for a while. I have a girl now, too. He's talking about maybe having a double date. I don't know what to tell him because I don't want to be corny saying, hey, don't talk to her, because you know how we were moving back then. But I also don't want him just finding out on his own. So what should I do?

[B]

This is another easy one to me.

[C]

So wait, his friend is now dating one of his old eaters?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And if for those of you listening that don't know what an eater is, that's one of his former head nurses.

[B]

And I could tell by his side it was one of his favorite eaters.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Once he said we, we parted ways and went on different paths.

[C]

Yeah. That means you had to heal. Yeah. You had to heal.

[B]

He might be mad at his friend. That's what's really happening here.

[C]

That's why he don't know if he want to go or not.

[B]

Damn. He's about to figure out what she like.

[C]

Yeah. He don't want his friend to know that he know her. That's what it is.

[A]

And a lot of times. Never mind, go ahead, be like, oh, that was my eater. Who's not your eater? Y'all were both having regular consensual sex. Y'all just were in a relationship. That was not eater. Eater is very specific. And you do not be having eaters. Stop, but continue be having eaters. But not all. Not all.

[C]

I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

[A]

You were her eater, too. Y'all were having sex.

[C]

Y'all was eating each other 100.

[A]

Yes. Y'all were having sex. That was not your eater. It was not. You pull up and she just mop you off and you leave.

[B]

Not everyone experienced her. Her real appetite.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Is what it is.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't know. He sounds defeated. He sounds like Drake on the Heart Part six.

[B]

I mean, that's because I think he really like, like that girl a little bit. Obviously, he needs to tell his friend.

[D]

Does he?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

He said he hasn't spoken to his friend in years. They just linked up again.

[D]

Yeah. How's it going?

[A]

Him and the girl are serious.

[B]

Okay, so we should go on a double date and sit there for that?

[A]

Yeah, he said double date. Then it's like, yeah, you. You gotta tell them. But it's like.

[D]

Or just dub the double date.

[B]

That could be the other.

[C]

Well, tell him before the date, obviously. Right. You don't tell him what, you.

[B]

You don't do the date, period. And you just tell him.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If that's your actual friend. If y'all are not really friends and just ran into each other and was like, yo, we should get up and let's bring the girls or whatever.

[C]

That's just talk. You don't have to do that. You don't have to honor that.

[B]

I might just be like, yo, I'm busy.

[C]

Like, me and you could do something on the solo. And then I'll tell you like, yo, fam, you know, shorty, you with me and her. You ain't gotta. Don't say, she's your old eater. Don't do that. That. But you could definitely be like, yo, we have, you know, we. We know each other. We dated. Or we, you know, we messed around before. Like. But don't. Don't just go out there like, yo, your girl that you in Love with. Yo, that was my old eater.

[B]

No, don't word it that way.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's a fight. So now you want to fight. Like, I get it.

[B]

No, then you're corny. You're corny. If you go to your friend to give him that information, like, yo, that's my old eater. No, do you just let you know, like, I used to talk to her.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The shit wasn't nothing. I don't know what's going on with y'all, but I didn't want you to find out later.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially if you're doing double dates. He's still going to be crushed if he likes that girl. Yeah, but what's the other alternative? He finds out, so what do you.

[C]

Do in that situation?

[B]

And we're going off the hype.

[C]

You with your friend?

[B]

I haven't seen my friend in a long time.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And you do I plan on, like, still hanging out with him. Is there a reason Spaces.

[C]

I mean, even if you don't hang out, let's say you bump into an old friend and you like, yo, listen, let's hang out. Then. Whatever, whatever. And he's like, yo, you know, before we do that, the girl that you with, now, me and her have a little history. Like, do you still want to go on the date?

[B]

I'm not going on the date, period. I'm debting that regardless of if I'm going to tell him or not, if we continue to hang out.

[C]

No, no, I'm saying you're with the eater.

[A]

You're with him. You're the.

[B]

Oh, wait, wait. Okay, no, I want you to tell me.

[C]

Yeah, you want your friend to tell you, but are you still gonna do the double date?

[A]

But why would you want your friend. But even if. Okay, taking out the double date part. Why would you want your friend?

[B]

I'm not doing that.

[A]

Taking.

[B]

Oh, no, I'm not taking out the double date. I had to think about you asking me that question. Of course I'm not doing that. I was like, wait, he really asking me if I'm doing that?

[C]

Yeah, I was trying to line you.

[B]

Up because then I was like, wait, which person am I here? I'm not doing the double date, no matter what character I am.

[C]

No, but I'm just saying, if you with the eater, though. Though.

[B]

No, I'm not doing that double date. You crazy.

[D]

Yeah, but if you're the guy with the eater, you don't know that your homies.

[B]

And he tells me.

[D]

Yeah, no. What? That's crazy.

[B]

No way.

[C]

Break up with the girl.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

They still be wanting to leave. Don't be wanting.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

That's the stupidest reason to leave. Somebody I don't know. Complaining. Y'all can't find love, but some you ain't seen in three years. Had some history with your girl. And I was like, you know what? Hey, you were perfect for me now. But you suck the dick that I've. That I know. Before that, I was in a locker room.

[C]

I'mma keep it tall. If a chick I'm liking, she. I find out she one of my homies is clipped, it's no way.

[B]

But what's. What's. What's a homie is what I'm really asking.

[C]

Yeah, I was.

[B]

That's why I didn't give a no.

[C]

Yeah, I was really close at one point. But then, you know, we adults, we grown. Happens. I may have moved out of town for a couple years for a job, whatever. I come back to the city and we bump into each other like, yo, what's good? I ain't see you in a minute. Yo, what's up? Let's get out. Let's go. Like you. Y'all was hanging out tough at one point. It's your boy. Like, yo, this is my man right here.

[A]

And this be your for two years. And you getting rid of her.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie. It's tough, man. Certain dudes, certain dudes, certain dudes. I don't want this. Nah, nah, it's certain dudes. If I find out. Yo, that what.

[A]

I'm not talking about certain dudes. I'm talking about a regular stand up. Regular stand up.

[C]

Even some of my friends. Nah, I can't do it.

[B]

If somebody's gonna be a part of my life during our relationship. Nah, I can't.

[C]

That you can't do.

[B]

I can't do that.

[C]

There's no way.

[B]

If you would. If you. Somebody I know and I see, if I dap somebody, like, I don't know.

[C]

It'S like your real friend, bro.

[D]

You don't see each other, but y'all.

[C]

Don'T see each other. Not because y'all not cool. It's like, you know, we adults, we grown, we have.

[D]

I mean, I'm. I'm saying this. I'm on your side. I wouldn't get out of here, Chase.

[A]

The way y'all care.

[C]

Respectful.

[A]

But to come on my mouth, Y'all gotta get that together. That is not okay.

[D]

But they've been in it for two years.

[A]

Is They've been together for two. You've been with somebody for two years, and that's tough. That's weird.

[C]

Even if it ain't my friend. Even if it's somebody I just know and I know he's like, him. I'm not. You used to with him? Nah. Because girls do it, too.

[A]

Specific people. There's specific people. I don't want. No. That they even breathe.

[C]

This is what I'm saying, but I'm.

[A]

Just talking about in general, not. They don't have to be a nasty person. It's just.

[C]

Oh, no, no. I'm saying it depends on who the person. If it's my friend. Come on, that's my boy. I can't do that. We can't do that. That's just. We would. That's just asking for shit to be awkward now. Like, no matter how much how grown, if we all in the same space, it's just naturally gonna be awkward.

[B]

I'm fine with, like, associate shit, whatever. But, like, let's put it to birthday dinner status. If there's 10 seats at the birthday dinner and he's gonna be there.

[A]

No, that's too close.

[B]

Nah. No. Fuck, like, no, there's no way that's happening.

[A]

That's too close.

[C]

Yeah. Nah, I ain't doing it.

[B]

But associate shit. Like, come on. If you in your 30s and living in the same city your whole life, it's bound to happen. And you may end up liking that girl and you just may know somebody that she dealt with. And you might be cool if I see you. What's up? Yeah, but when it comes to, like.

[C]

No, I've dated our lives. Yeah.

[B]

Nah.

[C]

Yeah, but if it's a specific type of somebody, we can't be. Nah, we can't have that in common.

[B]

What's that Special type of something.

[A]

So y'all kicking her out the crib? Y'all kicking your girlfriend out the crib like y'all live together. She gotta go because you found out she.

[B]

Oh, that's crazy.

[C]

Yes. Hell yeah.

[D]

Meanwhile, Ma.

[C]

Hell yeah. Get out.

[B]

All right. You wouldn't ask her. Yo, did you know if we were friends? Because if this guy's even mad at.

[C]

Him, together with my friend, we can't be together.

[B]

But what if she had no idea?

[C]

That's cool. I'm not saying.

[B]

Are you kicking her out the crib that night? Like, let her gather her things?

[C]

No, not that night.

[B]

She didn't fucking know.

[C]

I'm not gonna put her out in the street. But I'm just saying, like, we can't. We not together. We can't be together. Like, this is not. That's my boy. Like, we can't do it. That's all. It happens.

[B]

I mean, what if she's been your confidant for three years and you even spoken to him?

[C]

We can still be cool.

[B]

Who's the best friend now?

[A]

We can still be cool, man. Suck my dick.

[C]

We can still be cool.

[D]

Yo.

[A]

We cannot still be cool.

[C]

We can still be cool.

[D]

We can still be cool. As the crib is crazy.

[C]

But yeah. It's not like I'm not gonna see you and not say hello or, you know, like that. I'm not going to act like we complete strangers, but, like, we can't be together living together, but the last two.

[D]

Years, forget about it.

[C]

Yeah. Like, you know, I'm not doing.

[A]

I was. I was ring shopping, but not that ring shopping.

[B]

Forget when I called her my best friend, my sort of best friend came back in town.

[C]

No, it's not even that. It's just that that's somebody you cool with and you close with. That's your boy. Like, it's just. It's going to be awkward.

[B]

It's definitely going to be awkward.

[C]

That's going to be some awkward forever. I don't give a How mature you think you are advice.

[B]

Either way. They cancel the double date, but do it in, like, a nice way. Like, ah, nah, let's. Let's do something else. Let's just catch up. Feel out the situation, ask certain questions. And then you have to let him know that y'all dealt with each other at one point.

[C]

Back to the.

[A]

Don't let him know.

[C]

Of course you are.

[A]

If he. If he's happy. If he's ha. If he's happy, he's happy.

[C]

For now. Until that secret comes out the closet. Whenever it comes out the closet.

[A]

Why we ain't see this? We. Me and him have been together in peace for two years. I didn't even know you knew. This first of all did go back to whatever hole you know.

[B]

You know Best Man Holiday is a movie, right? That doesn't happen in real life. In the Best man roll credits no more sequel.

[A]

That was completely different. That was no.

[B]

How the. They held down a secret the entire time until wedding day.

[A]

They were best friends. Like best friends. Best best friends.

[B]

They only say friends because he got drafted to the Giants and Harper was trying to write a book. They would have went other ways. They stayed in New York.

[A]

They wouldn't have. They were best friends. They had a whole friend Group that's completely different. That was completely fucking different. I'm talking about somebody that like, oh, I didn't even know this person. If we've been together for two years and I didn't even know that you knew this person. They might be important to you. That ain't. That they ain't that fucking important enough to interrupt our day to day life. We might see them at the wedding and we might see them like at a family reunion or some shit that we both know people at. This is not a part of our regular day to day life.

[B]

Let's say they get married. Put yourself in this situation 20 years down the line, you find that out your best friend and your man.

[A]

He's not my best friend. If I ain't seen him in two years or talk to him in two years and you don't know who the fuck he is, we're going off this.

[B]

Hypothetical that they are reconnecting back in town.

[A]

He said that was his little homie that he ain't seen in a while. He didn't say that was his best little homie.

[B]

Never came out of his mouth.

[A]

Swear to God. He said that was my little homie.

[B]

All right, well, I mean, sometimes you gotta your little homies.

[C]

Girls, let them know who the big homie. Let him know. I'm the big homie. Yeah.

[D]

Drake tactic.

[C]

I'm the big homie. You little homie. Nigga, she told me.

[A]

Yeah. Nah, as a man, like if that's. If that's your big homie. Nah, you can't. If that's your big homie now you.

[B]

Can'T either way, though. You can't go on with life and then find out later. He's gonna be more crushed now two people he cares about held a secret against him. That's fuck now it's fuck both y'all.

[A]

Yeah, I think people need to understand. This just goes.

[B]

Always give me the choice.

[A]

Sometimes. Sometimes there's so much miserable, like just. Just misery in life. Enjoy your happiness. Sometimes you don't need to know everything. I've learned that the hard way. Some that I went searching hard for the guest. 700 passwords. Phones was locked for 24 hours. Some I didn't need to see and some I didn't need to know. And I wish that I didn't.

[D]

And that's what I've been saying about this whole beef too. Live in the lie. Sometimes it's better to live in the lie than to go investigate. And you learn the more you learn, the less you're gonna probably like that.

[B]

Person, yo, which is cool. I don't need to know every last nasty thing my girl has ever done. Please don't tell me right? But if it's my friend, that's all. Jesus Christ. Give me at least the choice. Maybe I am happy enough to be like, yo, it. Maybe I can live. But I need, like, with Kendrick and Dave, like, it's. It seems to be working fine. Yeah, give me the choice.

[C]

That's sick. But, yeah, I get it. Never, never work saying that.

[D]

Dynamics fine.

[B]

Poly Lange.

[C]

No.

[D]

That playing gang.

[C]

Nah, get out.

[B]

But do you see the difference, though? I don't need to. I don't need to know everything, but I would like to know everything.

[C]

But if it's my friend or my little homie or you know, somebody that I'm cool with. We haven't seen each other in a couple years because. Whatever. But you know that me and this dude is cool. Like, it's my. Obviously I bump into him, and I'm like, yo, let's like, bring your. Bring wifey. I bring wifey. We go out there. Obviously we. That cool. So it's like. That would be the time to be like, yes. So about that. I have a history with your friend.

[B]

Because imagine if your girl don't even hold it down and she. She hug your friend before you introduce and, like, know his name.

[A]

That's wild. That's wild. That's wild.

[C]

It happens.

[B]

Now you sitting at Applebee's, like, no, we're not doing this. Two for 20.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I'm leaving.

[D]

Do one for 10.

[C]

She'll take hers to go. Actually, she has to go and pack.

[B]

That sample platter. Perfect for her.

[C]

Yeah, perfect for her. She's taking that to go.

[B]

Everybody's sampled here except for me, apparently.

[C]

Yeah. What was his question? Does he tell?

[B]

Tell? And I said yes.

[C]

Yes. He has to tell him. He has to.

[B]

We wrapped.

[A]

You know, she would. She would. I wish she would tell him. I wish the girl would tell. I feel like it will be better coming from her than coming from the home.

[C]

He might put extras on it.

[A]

Yeah. Put sauce on, like.

[B]

See, I'd rather hear it from the friend.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Hurt coming from your girl because.

[B]

Yes. And I think women will definitely come.

[A]

In from the home.

[B]

Women will downplay it even more. I think there's corny guys out there that would throw sauce on it. But that's not really your friend. If I'm talking to one of my friends, I think they will gently tell me that information and be accurate with it.

[C]

Gently. You want your homie to tell you gently.

[B]

I want him to rub my back.

[C]

While he tells me that he had your queen. Just.

[B]

Just rub my hair while you're doing it. Your girl photo touch my beard. Because a girl will say some bullshit like, yeah, no, like, we just ran into each other one night. They'll say some bullshit like that.

[C]

She don't play with me.

[D]

He ran through me one night.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

At least your homie. Your homie will say, yo used to talk to her. We used to. Wasn't really like that. Every now and then, we talk like it really wasn't a thing. They'll give you the real. It's not. You're not gonna like it. Yeah, I'm not gonna ask details.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't think my friend would tell me details.

[C]

He was like, yeah, we.

[B]

We around. But anything crazy at all, like, it did. We haven't spoken a really long time. She's cool. Like, just wanted to give you a heads up.

[A]

I know she's.

[B]

A woman will lie. A woman will lie straight up. Be like. Like. Like, I don't even, like, count that. Like, I don't even remember it. Like that.

[D]

That's what Demer tries. As I shed my new. Whatever the shed shed my new. Said, like, it was like. It was like cicadas. You said we shed, like, every seven months.

[A]

Yeah, we shed skin cells every seven. Every seven years, you're a completely different person.

[D]

Yeah, she's a different.

[C]

Every seven years. N. I remember what happened in 2017. I ain't going to lie. It was some going on that summer.

[B]

You can't shed that.

[C]

Yeah, you can't shed that.

[B]

That stays on the wall.

[C]

That stays. That stays.

[B]

That's in a different type of paint.

[C]

That is cemented in history.

[B]

2016.

[A]

You ain't me in 2016.

[C]

We ain't if you didn't in 2016.

[A]

In 26. Summer. Summer of 2016, the only summer everybody remember. If it didn't happen, then it never happened.

[C]

Oh, there's some that happened after 2016 for sure. And before it and for sure.

[B]

No, it's life.

[C]

The. I remember that. That what.

[B]

What year your ID say you were born.

[A]

Born what?

[B]

That's the. That's how long you've been on this earth. When'd you lose your virginity?

[D]

You weren't born in 97 anyway.

[C]

You got to get that off.

[B]

Hey, me too. Women will say some like, yeah, but it was nothing. Like, what we have is more special. Like, that doesn't make me feel better.

[A]

Was not really saying that to you.

[C]

If she fucked your friend, what are you saying?

[A]

When you say his name, you definitely got him with the whole. What's his last name?

[C]

Nah, see, once. Nah, nah, nah, nah. There's no way last name. Now, see, I'm about to be brought.

[B]

Up playing with, then my mind is racing even more. Like, how you. You don't remember him?

[A]

Like, oh, no, he was the homie. He was.

[B]

Who else you don't remember?

[C]

He was the homie.

[A]

Like, now, real, though, there's really no way to say that.

[C]

Like, you've been in that situation before.

[A]

I've been in that situation.

[C]

All right, so the guy that you were with, that you. Y'all were just eaters, and then y'all end up liking each other. He obviously was like. He didn't give a like. But was that his man? Like, his homie? Word. Okay, there's some mutants out here. That nigga's an X men that shed skin every seven hours. A. Like that. You said seven years. Now that shed skin every seven hours. Every seven commercials. He a new.

[B]

He heals every wound in seconds.

[C]

That nigga's an expert for sure.

[A]

What?

[C]

I mean, I get it. I know how you could develop feelings for somebody you shouldn't be developing feelings for. I get that. But to then be like, you're not it. Like, we together. That's a different type of thing.

[B]

You don't have to get into too much detail. Have y'all, like, hung out, and it's cool.

[D]

Like, damn. Collectively, I love it.

[C]

Damaris might have that snapback because only. Only that snapback could have a nigga be like, yo, son, it yo. Like, only the snapback.

[B]

She shed her skin every seven days.

[C]

Nah, it might be. Yeah, it might be seven commercials for Demaris to yo.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause that's the only thing where a nigga could be like, damn, me and homie cool. They got history, yo. I don't even give a fuck. It's gotta be for that snapback. It's only the Snapback have doing like that.

[B]

Together, right?

[A]

Don't piss me.

[C]

I was in the group chat. That's confirmed. We all communicate together. Oh, nah, she's gangster. That's craziness.

[A]

The Knicks are doing well.

[C]

The Knicks are doing well. Thank you for that. Thank you for that segue. The next snap back after Brunson almost looked like he was hurt at halftime.

[B]

You know, every time we talk about this Knicks, Damaris goes like this. Yeah, she brought the topic up this time.

[A]

Yeah, man, them is wild.

[C]

The Knicks is wilding. Yo. The Knicks is yo, Baby D say yo, I don't even know. But the Knicks is wild and they up too old. I don't know what that mean, but.

[B]

Is Brunson the greatest in playoff history or what?

[C]

Yo, but shout out to the Knicks. Man up two zero on the paces.

[B]

Josh Hart, rebound machine.

[C]

The conference semifinal finals. The Knicks look great, man. The Knicks are playing together. It was shaky when Brunson looked like he may have hurt his groin. That was kind of shaky, like New York almost motherfucking erupted last night. But he came back after halftime and the Knicks were able to win. Shout out to the Knicks playing great. Hopefully they could continue and get this shit done and get to the Prayers to OG Conference finals.

[D]

He had a bad. He pulled his hand. I believe it pulled.

[C]

You look like a hammy.

[D]

I don't think that that's going to be a tight turnaround. That would at least be like two to three weeks. So if we're down him, that's. That means that Chew is going to have to do a lot of minutes.

[B]

Mitch is done. Done.

[D]

Mitch is cooked. Yeah, that like we're. I mean, this is just the residual of playing for a Tibs coach team. Hart has played every minute. The last two games straight he's played 48 minutes.

[C]

I'm not gonna lie. If, and if, if OG I mean, OG is a. That's a loss. That's a big loss for the Knicks. 28.

[D]

And he only played. He put up 28 in 28 minutes.

[C]

No, 100%. But I'm not mad at the idea of Precious getting those minutes. I'm not mad at that.

[D]

I mean, there's no better time to prove yourself.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not mad at. I'm not, I'm mad. I'm not mad at Precious coming off the bench for OG Even though OG is a big piece of what the Knicks are doing. But Precious is. He had some really, really good, good games for the Knicks this season. So either way, I hope OG Is good. I want to see the Knicks as healthy as they can be. Mitchell Robinson, obviously he' out. Julius is obviously out, so that's too big. Two of their starters are already out. So, you know, we don't want to see the Knicks hurt anymore. But if OG can't go, I'm. I'm. I'm not mad at Precious getting those minutes.

[B]

I'm not mad. What do you think about Julius just, just like stand him at the top of the key as a diversion?

[C]

One leg, that shoulder that shoulder ain't gonna get it done. That's that shoulder. You can't. You can't do much. Can't do much, man. But the Knicks look good, though. They playing together, obviously. I think the fact that those guys know each other since college is obviously the chemistry that is carrying this thing right now. And Brunson obviously is playing at an MVP level. It's just been fun to watch him. And I just can't wait till that ticket comes across and they tell us how much they paid Jalen, because he gonna break the fucking bank and he fucking deserves it. He gonna overcharge with what they did to the code Crusher.

[D]

He finished fourth in MVP voting. Jokic won again. I believe Gilchrist finished fifth. It was kind of dicey. The Gilchrist is shy. Gilchrist.

[C]

Sga Gilgis, not Gilgamesh.

[D]

I thought you talking about where you say his name.

[C]

Michael. Kid Grill. Because I'm gonna say he finished fifth. Michael Kidd. Gilchrist. I was like, what the did I miss?

[B]

Had a solid year.

[C]

I didn't see any of that. No. But Shay Gillis, he finished fifth. I believe it was Brunson finished fourth.

[D]

Fourth. Yeah.

[C]

I don't like that. Brunches should have been top three at least.

[B]

At least.

[D]

Oh, I lied. SGA finished second, and then it was. It was Joker, sga, Doncic, Giannis. Brunson. Brunson was fifth. Tatum, Anthony, Edwards, Sabonis, and kd.

[C]

Brunson was fifth.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Crazy.

[C]

Giannis over Brunson this year because Giannis.

[D]

Received one first place vote while Brunson received none, but had three seconds.

[B]

Who is the one person that voted for Giannis as the asshole in Milwaukee?

[C]

Yo, bro, I'm not gonna lie. Brunson. Brunson deserved. He deserved more votes than to finish fifth.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This season he had. Was fucking incredible.

[B]

Do we put Josh Hart's jersey at least up in the rafters? Cause he told Reggie Miller, yo, they saying, fuck you. You know that, right?

[D]

That was incredible.

[C]

That's gangster. I fuck with Josh Hart.

[B]

We have to put the Josh Hart jersey up there just for that shout.

[C]

Out to the Knicks, hopefully again, man, I wanna see them, you know, keep this thing going. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be fun to watch them close this out if they can get it done.

[B]

Agree on the Patreon.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Because I have more speculation on this rap. I want to save it for Patreon.

[C]

Oh, do you? Okay, well, let's do it. We'll talk to y'all soon. Headed to Patreon I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace.

[B]

No worrying. Loud.