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Rory
Does Meek Mill have a close connection to the. The Diddy family? And that's why he's, like, sticking up for them while 50 Cent is.
Mal
Does Meek have a close connection?
Rory
You know what?
Mal
They were connected to him.
Damaris
That's Uncle Meek.
Julian
Does he have a close connection? You let the Internet tell her, like, he got a really close connection with Diddy.
Rory
New warrior mouth. Hot box in a be like, give me a light.
Julian
That ass for the pants been tight.
Rory
Hot box in a be like, give me a ass so the pants fit tight.
Damaris
Look at me.
Rory
And I'm getting him right?
Damaris
Big knock like, why would I fight?
Rory
Big knock like, I'm not a fighter. Big. I don't need a writer.
Damaris
Come here. Call me baby.
Rory
I'm a poopy like I need a diaper.
Mal
I don't need a writer. She didn't even need a writer. Ma Peep. That's her pen.
Damaris
I don't think Ice Spice has a Ghost Rider. And if she does, I hope he's not a retainer.
Mal
I don't think anyone in her camp.
Damaris
I don't really think you could, like, brag about. Right. Writing that stuff. I just want to know why it took big 30 years in a Supreme collab to get a Metro card, and now Ice Spice is already on one. You guys are running to Broadway Junction?
Julian
No. Affordable.
Damaris
You haven't been on the train in 30 years either. And that Ice Spice has you going to mta?
Julian
Yeah, I want to go. That's a. That's a Bronx legend right there, man. I gotta support that.
Rory
Who are the Bronx legends like me.
Julian
Ice Spice, Cautious, Babe Ruth, Mellie Mel, Edgar Allan Poe, KRS1, Jennifer Lopez, Denzel Washington. Well, he claims Mount Vernon, but that's still, like, adjacent to the Bronx. It's like. It's not the Bronx Mount Vernon.
Damaris
I mean, it's a completely different county.
Julian
Five blocks over the Bronx. Dunhill's right there. I mean, is the clock back on five, Spice? No, I get my flowers. No, man, the clock is not back on. Listen, she's falling right in line with what's going on right now.
Damaris
What's falling is happening.
Julian
What type of music is she supposed to be making?
Damaris
I came in here and apologized, and I was singing is quick, but I'm quicker. I wasn't even mad at that awful record.
Rory
That record is good. Whatever.
Damaris
It's an awful good record. This Give Me the Light is one of the worst songs I've heard.
Rory
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Mal
This is the one that she.
Damaris
Does anyone not see what I was.
Mal
Talking about, remember at the festival, she premiered this and it was like, oh, shit, this is fire. Like, it's really tough to usually premiere a song at a festival. And it went really well. And then it came out, we were like, oh, that's terrible.
Damaris
You know, I usually hate, like, the obvious sample flips. At least use the sample flip. You just put some fucking sorry with the lighter verb on Sean Paul and just put it at the intro. And then just gave us one of the most unarranged beats I've ever heard. And then you yelled at me like Meek Mill, but with the same five words you always use.
Julian
Or you just don't understand a new way of making these records and creating these songs?
Damaris
No, I do. And I think everything she's done up until this point has actually been pretty good. I was in every group chat saying that I'm quicker than these.
Julian
I don't know why you were saying that's just nasty.
Damaris
Because this is quick. But I'm quicker.
Julian
Yeah, but that's just nasty.
Damaris
I actually thought, like, it was cool that she's giving, like, some credit. Like, y'all are not bums, per se. You guys are quick. I'm just saying I'm quicker.
Julian
Yeah, but that's giving. Like, that's not a camera.
Damaris
You're giving love before you love.
Julian
Computers, Putin, it's the same.
Damaris
So you're saying it's cam'ron junior Writer and then Ice Spike.
Julian
I mean, it just sounds like they're falling in line with the New York lineage, that's all. Sounds like she's falling right in line.
Damaris
That's not the New York lineage, by the way.
Julian
Cameron.
Damaris
Cameron is. But computers Putin was just, like, a week.
Julian
But that was.
Damaris
That's. No, we didn't add that to the link.
Julian
No, that's still a bar that y'all go crazy over if y'all hear that record. Don't do that.
Damaris
Don't do that. But it's more of a joke.
Julian
Yeah, but I'm saying it's still. Everybody knows that bar is what I'm saying. So this is her way of kind of playing off of that.
Damaris
No, it's not.
Julian
You don't know that.
Damaris
You think her inspirations are junior writer.
Julian
And Cameron, I think if you're from New York City, you as. As Ice Spice is. I think she definitely grew up, like, in Dipset and Cameron.
Mal
No, she didn't. She was too young.
Julian
How old is she?
Mal
She's only, like, 22, 23.
Julian
She's older than that.
Mal
I listen to dipset she's been 22.
Damaris
For, like, four years now.
Rory
She might be 24.
Mal
I don't think so.
Julian
I think she's like, 26, 27.
Mal
What, you think she just jumped? She's 24.
Julian
24, that's right.
Mal
Her birthday is New Year's.
Damaris
Oh, that's right.
Mal
So she was born in Aleppia 2000. So you can just.
Julian
Was that Alipia?
Mal
No, she's not 40.
Julian
I'm just saying.
Damaris
So she was five, like Olipia.
Julian
She might be 30.
Mal
Well, right before we recorded, Damaris had an interesting take that she read about Ice Spice. And I just wanted to read this lyric before she gets into that. I miss poopy. Like, I need a diaper gra.
Julian
Mm.
Mal
Damara's.
Rory
No, they were saying that they think that he's so fucking annoying. They were saying that they think Ice Spice has a scat kink. Every song she's talking about farting and pooping.
Damaris
I mean, it is true.
Mal
Talking to the kids.
Damaris
Why do we think that is, though? Every single song is pretty.
Julian
Oh, maybe she's saying she's on.
Damaris
Yeah, yeah, but she says that every.
Rory
Yeah, every single single record I'm on, y'all.
Julian
Every record.
Rory
Then like, you ate Mexican food. I don't know.
Julian
Like, maybe.
Damaris
Then what's Curry? Nikki's fetish of all the bitches being her son. Because that's like, breeding kink. She has a breeding kink.
Julian
So Nikki has a breeding kink?
Damaris
No, Nick Cannon has a breeding.
Julian
Yeah, the wrong Nick.
Damaris
Nick Cannon has a breeding kink. A real thing.
Rory
Yeah, a breeding kink. Yes.
Damaris
You how you get kinky about a child being born?
Mal
It's like Genghis Khan shit.
Damaris
That's weird.
Rory
Explain it to you. A breeding kink is like, every. Like, you get off on, like, have my baby type shit or I'm going to have your baby. Like, you get off on that. That's not saying it while you're having sex regularly. Not just while you're having sex, period, just, like, regularly. The thought of getting someone pregnant, just.
Julian
Be like, yo, just get me pregnant. Like, if we in Whole Foods. She just says it. Yeah, yeah. That's not the type of people I want to be around.
Mal
No, that's scary. On deli, she said, I'm the shit. I'm that bitch. I'm Ms. Poopy. So I think Ms. Poopy should be her new nickname.
Damaris
She's her alias.
Julian
She's staying consistent.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
She let y'all know I'm still shitting everywhere I Go. I'm shitting on y'all.
Damaris
Nas is Escobar, Beyonce, Sasha Fierce. I Spice, Miss Poopy.
Rory
Do you still think. Do you still think the clock is on?
Mal
Like Ms. Rachel?
Damaris
Just letting you know it. Everyone needs the alias. What was Mariah Carey's Mimi? Me? No. Didn't she fight on? I went to the tour. It was my first concert.
Rory
Oh, that's what you're talking about?
Mal
Oh, we did.
Damaris
She was boxing somebody.
Julian
Mariah Carey was your first concert?
Damaris
My mom.
Rory
He took his view with his mom. Remember he told us.
Julian
Your first show was Mariah Carey?
Damaris
Yeah, at the Garden.
Julian
You're so lucky you're not gay. You're so lucky you didn't come out.
Rory
Was it your first show?
Damaris
Wait, you didn't like the Heartbreaker album?
Julian
My first show wasn't Janet. No, not my favorite. Not my first. Maybe my first big concert. Yeah. Was probably Janet at the Garden.
Rory
Okay. If you see somebody singing in the Rutgers. That don't count.
Julian
No, but, like, going to, like, the Beacon Theater. That counts. I went to, like, the Apollo. That counts.
Rory
Those shows, those count.
Damaris
I think she brought HOV out.
Julian
I'm sure she was saved. I'm sure she. That saves as long as HOV came out. Because if it was just Mimi by herself and you was there, like, singing I have visions of love, like, nah, you hate.
Damaris
I think the only song I knew at that time was Heartbreaker. The actual song.
Julian
Everybody knew that song. But which one? The remix?
Damaris
Yeah, yeah, remix with Jay. Right.
Julian
Okay.
Damaris
Jay is on that.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Anyways, she. She was fighting some alter person, whatever her other person was for that tour.
Julian
Yeah, I think that was in the video too, right?
Damaris
Yeah, no, I had a boxing ring and everything.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Anyways, I say that all to say, Julian, if I spice wanted to poop on you, what would be your. Your response?
Julian
Like, really? Come on, fan, don't play with me.
Mal
Like, she has a fat ass to probably foo. Probably.
Damaris
I mean, she's. She's obviously too young for us, but, like, to the younger generation, she is.
Mal
Like, the baddest industry.
Damaris
She still looks like a kid to me.
Julian
Really?
Damaris
Since she came out. I can't get that out of my head.
Rory
She looks like a kid with a fat ass. She does.
Damaris
She has starting to.
Julian
I think she just has that character thing going on right now. Like, she's stuck in, like, that character she's playing. And I think that that's, like, the colors and hairstyles and things like that that makes it kind of like doll ish type of well, if she has.
Damaris
A scat fetish, that's what it's called. I'm going to turn the clock off because she's going to clean up in Dubai. If her music career falls off, she's fine forever. The way I was saying, sexy red, no matter what, she'll be famous because she has that personality. She'll find her way. If the music dries up, she's going to go. She just moved to Dubai.
Mal
You think people.
Damaris
What is she doing with this fucking streaming money?
Mal
Scat queen.
Damaris
She could be making 100 grand a day in Dubai.
Mal
You think people with a scat fetish have like a fart thing, too? Like, they like the smell of farts. Like, how far into the fecal?
Julian
You gotta be a different type of mentally off to like the smell of farts.
Mal
Like, you just like getting Dutch oven.
Julian
Like, that's when people like, yo, don't have like, Damaris love saying, don't kink shame. We can kink shame anybody that loves smelling farts. There's something wrong with that.
Damaris
Wait, why can't we.
Rory
Bottling up one of my farts one day and sending it. They have like, services for that.
Julian
What kind of fart? Fast rabbit.
Rory
You can fart in a jar and like put a.
Damaris
You know, they need to vet these llc better.
Julian
You could fart in the jar and do what?
Rory
And sell it to who? To people who like farts. That's a real thing.
Julian
How much is this going for? Because I might get back on, like $100 a jar.
Mal
People have done that. Like $100 a jar. They were on ebay. People were selling air. That's better than crack.
Julian
$100 a jar.
Mal
It's better than crack.
Damaris
You said, I enjoy our freedoms.
Julian
To farts.
Damaris
Communism is looking better and better every day.
Julian
Yeah, they got it.
Damaris
Why is this allowed in the United States?
Julian
Because we're crazy. We're crazy. This is the craziest fucking country. I mean, I'm glad. I love the fact that I'm from here, but this is the craziest country in the world.
Damaris
Imagine getting audited and have to, like, explain some of your expenses. Yeah, when you're bottling up farts, sir.
Julian
Why did you order 500,000 mason jars last year? You know, got some farts off, some gas out the way.
Rory
That's a real thing. But speaking of Sexyy Red and clocks being on, because you did just bring her up how you said she'll always be famous, but you said that the clock was on for her. Me and Julian went To on Thursday.
Mal
Oh, here we go.
Rory
And Get It Sexy came on, and it turned the entire event up. The only song that went harder than.
Julian
The event where y'all.
Rory
We were at an Awake activation.
Julian
Oh, I thought you said awake like.
Rory
Awake, the clothing line.
Julian
Oh, okay.
Mal
This brand I'm.
Rory
Yeah. Oh, yeah. We were at a wake activation with the new artist, Ania. I don't want to say her name wrong, but she has that back outside song. So she was there. She her team. She had a little performance, whatever. But when that sexy red song went up, the only song that went up harder than that was Not Like Us. That was the only one that got a bigger reaction.
Damaris
Which sexy red record is this?
Rory
Get It Sexy, the song that I told y'all was gonna be song of.
Damaris
The summer, but it's not.
Mal
It's not. Cuz Not Like Us played after.
Rory
And it was like, ooh, cuz Not Like Us came out. But if Not Like Us didn't come out and that whole beef, then, like.
Damaris
That would be song.
Rory
No, it wouldn't.
Julian
Y'all let that record play.
Rory
What?
Julian
Y'all didn't snatch homie's laptop? Not Like Us came on.
Rory
Nah, I started Crip walking.
Damaris
You didn't jump us into ovo. We have no alliance.
Mal
New ho king got that. Kendrick's.
Rory
I don't have one OVO invoice.
Julian
It's feeling Opie in here, man. I ain't gonna lie. It's Opie in here right now. Cracker 1.
Damaris
I'm shocked you're not in Turks. I. I was surprised to see your face today.
Julian
Why?
Damaris
Because the boy did what I said he shouldn't do.
Mal
The boy fled the embassy, went right.
Damaris
To Turks to pay for sex on vacation. Yeah.
Julian
Oh, good. Need a little vacation. Why not?
Damaris
And what? We will eventually get to some of the updates in Kendrick and Drake, but I felt like we needed to cleanse for a second and not get right into that.
Rory
Yeah, I'm tired of them, even though.
Damaris
I am very much on the side of wanting them to continue. And I love rap beef. I even. I'm getting a little exhausted.
Julian
Are you?
Damaris
This entire thing.
Julian
Why?
Damaris
Questlove may have had a point.
Mal
I'm only getting exhausted of, like, the conspiracy conversations that keep multiplying from this whole thing. If the music itself has been great this whole time, if we could just erase the timeline.
Julian
It's like the National Enquirer, man. Like, it's a rabbit hole. You go down and there's a worker that stole something, and it's.
Damaris
It's I think the whirlwind of everyone having a voice and everyone binge watching Netflix crime series. Everyone thinks everyone's. Everyone on Twitter is either a doctor, a lawyer. Whatever's happening that day, they become the expert. Yeah, and now we have everyone being that annoying Reddit investigator for the whole world. We've watched too much Netflix and we all have a voice. And that's why I'm. I'm leaning on communism.
Mal
Not like it's.
Damaris
We're bottling farts. Yeah, listen, China has a point. That's all I'm saying.
Mal
Not Like Us officially is number one now on Billboard and euphoria sits at the three spot. So no, it's not going anywhere in mall. I've been hearing it a lot.
Rory
I've been hearing Not Like Us everywhere.
Mal
Can't escape it all over the city.
Damaris
Well, how was the event outside of the music? Like you guys were outside and.
Mal
Yeah, I mean, my buddy Josh is the one that I know over at Awake. Awake's from Queens. It's a local brand.
Damaris
They have a store in Astoria, I.
Mal
Believe they have a. Nah, they're only storefronts. Orchard.
Damaris
Really?
Mal
62. Yeah, but they're from. I don't know, they might do like a pop, whatever, but great. They always do events there. It's always a good time. It's open bar, good music, good homies. Like, it's just. It's like nothing crazy.
Rory
Rory, you would have hate the one you were supposed to come to with us. You would have. When we got there, I said, oh, Rory would hate this, but we have fun.
Damaris
I made one of the best decisions ever. Cause you guys almost talked me into going to that.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Damaris
I could have never slept with myself if I went to some pop up show I didn't want to go to and my daughter was laying there with a broken leg. Thank God I left here. I was like, nah, I gotta go pick Amara up from the babysitter.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Instead of grabbing a drink with them.
Rory
And usually, like, even when I said, let's go get a drink, that's so crazy the way that the universe works. Because when I say, let's go grab a drink from next door, usually you would have came, had one drink with me. I said it was on me and everything. And you were like, nah, guys, I really just want to go home. That was the universe.
Damaris
It's because Amar and I are actual twins and we have like twin. Whatever that shit is.
Mal
Telepathy.
Damaris
Yeah. Talk to Key about it all the time. I know when Amar Is upset. When I left here, I was like, nah, I got some time before the babysitter is done, but let me get back. Be responsible, father.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Come right back to a broken tibula. I knew it. Sitting on the A train. I was like, I bet my daughter's leg is broken.
Julian
That's tough. That's so crazy, bro. Like, you laugh about, like, I don't understand how you like, not locked up right now.
Damaris
For those that don't know, which is everyone besides the people in this room and Kia, my daughter broke her leg on Thursday evening.
Julian
Crazy.
Mal
She got suplexed.
Damaris
No, my daughter's not getting duplexed.
Mal
I don't know. It's like a wrestling camp.
Julian
You think his two year old daughter's in wrestling camp?
Damaris
Like, how does your brain work sometimes.
Mal
Play with each other.
Rory
Like, silence is cool. Like sometimes.
Mal
Well, we also still don't know how she broke her leg.
Julian
So I get, you know, she didn't get suplexed.
Damaris
Yeah, like, we can check that one off.
Julian
Suplexed. What?
Damaris
And if that happened, then I will actually sit down for life and kill that baby.
Julian
Oh, absolutely. 100%. I'll be your Cody. Don't worry.
Damaris
I could. I could pop from.
Julian
Is she a white girl?
Damaris
No, it's a black girl.
Julian
Damn.
Damaris
So it was the first time using this babysitter. The one that we had used before was not available. I get back there and it's weird because Amara rarely sleeps on my shoulder, or even Kia's for that matter. Like, that's not how she takes naps. So I get in there and I'd never seen this babysitter nor spoken to her.
Julian
So now this is a service, A baby service that you.
Damaris
Yes.
Julian
Okay.
Damaris
And we had used ones in the past.
Julian
Like, how do you feel about that? Using babysitting services?
Damaris
I suppose I was uncomfortable with it to begin with, but sometimes it's like the only option when you can't find family members. So they're vetted. Like, it's not. It's not like some crazy. It's not like Tinder for babysitters. Like, it's just some random person you're swiping they have to like, go through.
Julian
But it's like Uber. It's like Uber for babysitters.
Damaris
Sure.
Julian
Yeah. Like Uber sitter.
Damaris
Yeah. They at least have like their driver's license, we think.
Mal
Yeah, that's though, because I know a girl that was signing up for that. And you had to be like EMS certified to be able to like, do whatever it's called the Heimlich. And you have all these things. You just lied. She has an unadventure. He's like, yeah, what. What can happen? I was like, it's a child's life.
Damaris
Yeah. That's not like lying about being proficient in Microsoft Excel.
Mal
Yeah. Like, it was. Just really threw me off. And I don't think she got it, thankfully, but.
Damaris
Well, in the past, again, we've probably used the babysitter three times at most. Like, as you guys know, Amara's with me all the time. She's in the office, she's out. She's watching the Knicks game. Like, I don't really let her leave my side. But Kia had her high school reunion. We had to record, so we used the service that we'd used in the past, and it was cool. Come in. Amara is asleep on her shoulder. Very odd. She passes Amara to me and was like, yeah, she had a little fall at the playground. I was like, yeah, she falls a lot like Amara. Just dead sprints and falls. So I'm not thinking anything of it because she downplayed it. Put Amara down. She sleeps for, like, an hour. Wakes up. She loves to run right after a nap. Try to put her down. Can't walk. Look at her leg swan. Like, shit. I then grab her. I don't grab an iPad. I don't grab snacks. I didn't even grab the right car seat. Amara might as well just sat in my lap while I drove to the hospital. I was losing my fucking mind. Like, oh, my daughter's not be able to walk for the rest of her life because I wanted to record till 8, get there. NYU staff was great pod listeners that did the cast. Kia, Kia, come. You have to understand the guy trying.
Mal
To give you dab.
Damaris
You have to understand what I'm going through. Like.
Julian
The people at the hospital knew who you were.
Damaris
Yes.
Julian
Okay.
Mal
Tell them what the guy.
Damaris
So I'm frantic as, like, losing my mind. Like, oh, what. What the did I do? Kia is coming from her high school reunion. And mind you, he is still is breastfeeding. Like, she hasn't drank in a really long time. She deserved, like, a night out. And, you know, her tolerance is very low now. She doesn't drink. I get a freshly drunk Kia walking into nyu.
Rory
Oh, no, you should have just.
Damaris
I have a. With a broken leg and a doctor going, yo, love the pod man. Kendrick, Drake. What do you think? I almost started crying.
Rory
Yeah, they had a sedate.
Damaris
I almost, like, really started crying. Like, at one point, I took, like, a full lap around with Amara in the little stroller in between X rays because I was about to have a mental breakdown. It was one of the worst Thursdays ever.
Julian
So she. She has a broken tibula.
Damaris
I think that's what it is. Tibula. Whatever the femur. Whatever the.
Julian
That's. Oh, man. Bro, that's. Even. I don't know, man. That's why I can't. Not saying it's the babysitter's fault, because kids gonna have accidents, kids are gonna run, kids are gonna climb. We know that, but it's tough for me to hire a babysitter and come back and my kid has a broken leg, and I'm not getting arrested.
Damaris
Not like a little forehead scratch.
Julian
A broken leg.
Mal
It's also someone you don't know. Like, you said you never met that baby.
Julian
That's what I'm saying.
Mal
Not even a woman. You said you're super young, just a random kid that has your kid.
Damaris
So she looked like she had to be above 18 with the app, but she looked like she was 14. She had braces.
Julian
She probably lied about her age, like Julian said.
Mal
That's what I'm saying.
Rory
No, they need your ID.
Damaris
Definitely need your.
Rory
They fake ID.
Julian
No, I get an ID. That's nothing. IDs.
Rory
If I know a guy that could give me a fake id, I'm not signing up to be a babysitter. I'll go bartend.
Julian
Why not? You know how much babysitters make?
Mal
Yeah, it's really good money.
Damaris
I make Kia just babysitters, dog walkers.
Julian
Like, I'm about to start walking. And listen, if y'all see me walking 40 dogs one day in Manhattan, mind your business. All right? I'm trying to get to it.
Rory
You know, get to it.
Julian
I'm get to it.
Rory
I see.
Mal
What do you say?
Rory
He said for all the dogs.
Mal
Because, you know, like, it's part two.
Julian
I got it. No, I got it.
Mal
All the dogs are from Canada.
Julian
To do that. I got it.
Damaris
But I purposely made sure Kia did not give me that babysitter's number. I did not want to speak to her. If y'all knew where my thoughts were going after I got Amara back to the house. Yeah, they were in some dark places.
Mal
Got the drop on her.
Damaris
Yeah, I'm. I'm happy with the decisions that I made.
Julian
That's tough, though. Like, honestly, like, as a parent, that has to be one of the most nerve wracking moments. Like, your kid has a broken leg, and it happened while you left him with a babysitter. Like, your mind Even if the babysitter is this sweet person. Girl, whatever your mind has to go to. What the fuck did you do to my kid? It has to. That's just a natural.
Damaris
Especially when you have Irish cousins that could be mistaken as men. Yeah, all my. All my girl cousins look like guys.
Julian
I'm not gonna ask why they look like guys, but I'm just, You know, Ireland.
Damaris
Potatoes.
Julian
What does potatoes have to do?
Damaris
Sometimes Irish women, sometimes, you know, are. They're units.
Mal
A lot of hard faces.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Really?
Julian
Yeah, I know some.
Damaris
When.
Julian
When that cute Irish girls.
Damaris
When that cast picture hit the family group chat, everyone just let it go. Just let it go, because we will. We will take it. There. Some tough faces we should not be doing.
Julian
Big shoulders, bro.
Damaris
Yeah.
Julian
Oh, okay. All right. As long as Amara. Is she doing better? Is she.
Damaris
She handled it like a champ. Like, she hasn't even really needed the. The pain. It's like liquid ibuprofen for babies. She hasn't needed that.
Mal
Bones are like jelly. Anyway, she's just pissed.
Damaris
She can't, like, run around.
Julian
Yeah, that's.
Damaris
That's really all it is.
Mal
Baby bones are like flubber.
Julian
How have you been, Julian? You sound like you want to get some. How are you? I'm like, okay, well, I texted Roy. How was your weekend? How was your. I'm sorry.
Mal
All right.
Damaris
As if I didn't have the worst weekend. Kia forced me to leave the house on Saturday night, non stop losing my mind. She's like, you need to, like, get out for, like, a second.
Julian
Okay.
Rory
Yeah, she was tidy if she wanted.
Damaris
You to get my man. Della was in town, so I went to go meet Della. It ended up in that, like, one of those situations where you end up being the third wheel by accident. Like, an improv 2 date just happened, and now I'm sitting here like, I don't want to go to dinner with y'all.
Julian
You do that a lot. You did that with Julian before. Now you're doing it.
Mal
No, he invited himself in. Mine.
Julian
Fly on the wall. Yes.
Damaris
Is that a little misinformation in that story?
Mal
It was fine, though. It was fine, though.
Damaris
No, they went to a bar with your date, and then I went to another bar by myself, and then Julian texted me, and then they met me at that bar. I didn't go to their date.
Mal
No, that's not how. That's.
Damaris
I was already there.
Mal
Cuz I told you to go there because that's where we were going. I invited him. He wasn't like. He crashed.
Damaris
Not important.
Mal
I Set it up.
Damaris
I'm at last lap sitting here, like, all right, I don't want to be on their. Their date. Let me leave. Let me say what's up to my guy. Low can take a nice walk up to Sahara. Walking up First Avenue, who's the first face I see?
Mal
Oh, great, my hood.
Damaris
This guy doing what? Hey, man, can we just wait till Monday, please?
Julian
Where y'all was at on first half?
Mal
I was just.
Damaris
I was walking on first half, dinner.
Mal
With friends, and I didn't see Rory and my friends who were. We had to the window seat. So they point out, goes, hey, that's. They said, oh, it's mall. And I looked. I was like, that's.
Julian
How do people.
Rory
All right, seriously, because they don't watch the show.
Julian
How do people still. How do people get that mixed up?
Damaris
I don't know. The amount of times I've been called Mom. Like, do I look like my name is Jamal, or do I look like a Rory? Use critical thing. I don't care if you've never seen our faces. I don't care if you don't listen to the show. Yeah, let's use critical thinking.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
So I get, am I Maul or am I Rory?
Julian
I don't think I've ever been called Rory, though. I don't think so.
Rory
You don't really give Rory.
Julian
I don't.
Damaris
I give Jamal.
Rory
Yeah, well, a lot of people don't know Maul's name is Jamal. A lot of them think call him Mal.
Damaris
That's.
Rory
If you don't watch the show. That's Mal.
Mal
Mal is. That's definitely.
Rory
And you definitely have a girl cousin named Mallory. That's like a OG Irish name.
Damaris
Definitely. They have an aunt Mallory.
Rory
Yeah, see?
Julian
Mallory Malley.
Damaris
Yeah, O'Malley.
Mal
So I jumped out from the table and ran outside, and I didn't say hi to her. I just, like, bumped his shoulders into him. I, like, ran into him.
Julian
That was.
Damaris
Meanwhile, I'm on my 15th. Listen, of not like us walking up the street. I'm already a little aggressive.
Julian
How y'all like listening to that in my presence, though? Like, what's up with y'all? Y'all think that's cool? Just like, so.
Rory
So you are biased. You are ovio.
Julian
No, I'm just saying, like, how y'all just bumping that record, like, hot.
Rory
I don't know.
Mal
It's fire. Yeah. It's really hard to escape, to be honest.
Julian
Fire.
Damaris
And I mean, like, nothing's happened to any of us, so I feel very safe. Kendrick did Say one of those, like, let's see if someone actually slides this time. And. No, no one slid.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Only Amara was the only one that slid into a broken new cast.
Rory
Pop the latch on the Audi and let the door slide.
Julian
You.
Damaris
You've listened to that record by yourself. You didn't tell anyone you got off FaceTime with. With Drake and then was like, oh, it played by accident.
Rory
Gum off them new battles.
Damaris
Let me see. Let me see what the big hoopla is. And then you started. Bo.
Julian
I listened to that record when it first came out, like, four times.
Mal
You've heard it since. You can't avoid it.
Julian
I mean, I've heard people playing it, but I haven't played it. I'm not listening to it. But to be fair, I don't really.
Damaris
Okay, but, like, out of a friendship.
Julian
No, I just.
Damaris
You just don't like the song.
Julian
I've heard that song. Like, that song is a song I've heard already. I feel like rj, for another LA artist, might have records like that. There's so many artists that have records like that, which is why it's just evident that people like the record because of who it's dissing. It's not because the sound anything. It's not like it doesn't sound amazing to me.
Mal
It's.
Julian
I've heard that that sound is very familiar.
Damaris
Give you that. The beat sounds like when everyone was trying to copy Dr. Dre. It sounds like a diet in the club with more of a West coast bop. It's the same shit when everyone's trying to copy Dre. What Kendrick Lamar did with that record made that shit move like you would not believe. You cannot tell me that's not an amazing record that you would listen to in your free time. It's not because who's disliked. But that's not just a great song. It's.
Julian
But it's not. Because if. If it wasn't dissing, if it wasn't in the moment, if we didn't get that record out of the moment that it came out of, I don't think people would.
Damaris
But that's like saying if 50 Cent didn't say, go, shorty, it's your birthday, we wouldn't listen to in the club. Like, of course, yeah, we listen to it because of what it is.
Julian
The same thing.
Damaris
Make your point of, we only listen to it because it's a diss. We would never listen to that song. Otherwise the song wouldn't exist.
Rory
Otherwise, I. I think even if Kendrick released that song and it Wasn't a Drake diss. I think it would still go up. Maybe it wouldn't have.
Julian
You think that. You think that song would be number one if he wasn't dissing Drake?
Rory
I don't know if it would be number one, but I still think.
Julian
Let's just say we know it wouldn't be number one. He doesn't have a number one without Drake, so let's say we know that.
Damaris
That's not true, by the way, but.
Rory
You also don't know that.
Julian
And he does.
Mal
I believe Humble was.
Damaris
Yeah, we got fact checked. Yeah, Humble was number one.
Mal
All the Lamaze Lamars, whatever they call, so Humble.
Damaris
Yeah.
Julian
One.
Damaris
Okay.
Julian
All right.
Damaris
You know, many people have number one records in the world. Not very many.
Julian
Okay.
Mal
Songs fire.
Damaris
If you don't have an allegiance to this, you. You'd really enjoy it. Like, this was fun. Like, this was a really good time.
Julian
Like, it's not even about.
Damaris
You would have a lot of fun with your friends screaming, they not like us. It's a good time. You don't have to put too much into it.
Julian
It's not even about an allegiance, because the allegiance is not. It's not.
Mal
He does like it. He said he likes it.
Julian
Who?
Mal
Drake.
Julian
I. I said I like the record, but I'm not listening to it. I'm not banging it. Because it's like I'm. I listen to it. I'm like, okay, but if it's. If it's. It's not anything incredible to me, it's a good record, but I'm not banging that. Like, okay, but you.
Rory
Plenty songs that aren't Incredible record. How often does an incredible record come out? You listen to plenty of music. That's not.
Julian
The music I'm listening to is incredible because I'm controlling what I'm listening to.
Rory
You came in here and you was dancing to Push Ups. Is Push Ups incredible?
Julian
I was dancing not like us when it first came out. I like the record, but I'm just saying number one. No, let's stop. That's not a number one record. Well, it is because of the moment, the situation. That's what I'm saying. It's not like an incredible record.
Rory
Family Matter is not in the top five, then. Cause Family Matters is a pretty incredible record. But why is it not in the top five then?
Damaris
If you're seven or something?
Rory
It's number seven. If you're saying that people need Drake for number ones, but none of Drake's diss records are even in the top five. What does that Mean, I'm asking you. You say that people.
Julian
Yeah, but we can't. We can't. We can't have the number one record conversation. Like, we can't. That's unfair to have that conversation.
Mal
How that's been Drake's whole angle.
Julian
Yeah, but that's unfair to have that because he has more than any of these guys.
Damaris
But the moment in itself, I don't think Family Matters would ever even reach any type of Billboard had it not been this moment and who he was dissing and what was going on. Of course Drake has number one records, but that's not a number seven on the Billboard song.
Rory
Yeah, it's the moment. I agree with him.
Julian
If you feel like, cool. I'm not mad at you feeling like that. I'm just saying that Not Like Us.
Damaris
Would not be even split. That all these records are in the Billboard top 10 because of the moment, because Kendrick Lamar and Drake are dissing each other. Family Matters is not a Billboard record. Yeah, they would not be. If they were putting an album together. 40 would not be like, well, that's the one that we're gonna lead with. Oh, no, that's just a. It's just a good.
Julian
That would be a song on the. On the album. That would be a album cut.
Damaris
Exactly. And I'm saying it's number seven because of the moment and who he's dissing and vice versa. With Kendrick, though, you could say Not Like Us could be a record you would lead with. It has a bop. It's a. It's a club record.
Rory
If you change the lyrics and make it not about pedophiles, it would still.
Damaris
If you keep the Not Like Us, that hook is great about.
Julian
We can go back to when it came out. I came on here and said, I like the record. So I don't want to sound like I don't like the record. I'm just saying I'm not playing the record just because it's not something I want to keep listening to. It's just not that dope. It's a good record, but I'm not listening to it.
Rory
Like, would you walk to it at a barbecue?
Julian
My Crip never anything at a barbecue.
Rory
Okay. Would you two step to it at a barbecue?
Julian
Not Like Us. Nah. That record.
Mal
Well, Bron was stepping to it at this event he was at over the weekend.
Rory
Is that where they filmed the video?
Damaris
Yo, Daylight is such an instigator without being one.
Mal
Yeah, but he didn't.
Damaris
He knew what the fuck he was doing here. Shout out to Daylight I thought it was a good move.
Julian
What was a good move? Dancing to it.
Damaris
Look who's dancing behind him. You think Daylight just wanted to post a video of him doing this? No, it was who was dancing behind him.
Julian
Okay.
Damaris
How mad do you think Drake is?
Julian
I don't think that matter what this video at.
Damaris
LeBron. What's his middle name?
Julian
LeBron.
Damaris
LeBron. Michael James.
Rory
I was about to say it has to be Michael.
Damaris
If it isn't, he'd lie about it. You know, Drake was probably mad when he was warming up to like that or rapping all the lyrics to like that. They're supposed to be friends. And now you dancing with your wife to my pedophile record. I'd be tight. If I saw one of my friends dancing to my pedophile record, I would be highly upset. Especially, like, if I find out because Daylight posted it.
Mal
My pedophile record is hilarious.
Damaris
You know how fucking livid I'd be?
Mal
Yeah. Cause he. To realize.
Julian
Yeah. You would have to feel away if it's somebody that you consider a friend dancing to a record with somebody calling you a fucking pedophile. Yeah. I don't think that's. That's the natural thing by word. Like you. You jamming to that.
Rory
So is that why. Is that why you won't dance to it?
Julian
Find me dancing to most records, I don't push up the video. That's because we were in here.
Damaris
Or do you think? I mean, we know LeBron to be a hip hop historian, self proclaimed. Maybe he chooses hip hop over everything.
Rory
Oh, hip hop over everything.
Damaris
Yeah.
Julian
Maybe it's not wrong with that.
Damaris
I mean, at the end of the day, like, he's. It's music you're supposed to friendship. Like, he can't really help himself. I'd be so mad at my friends.
Julian
If they were dancing to that record.
Rory
If somebody dished you, I wouldn't dance to it. Unless it was like a funny diss. No, it was everyone static.
Damaris
If you want to dance to a disc record for me. Cool. Not the pedophile one.
Rory
Okay.
Mal
Yeah, that. That stings.
Damaris
Like, I'm not that sensitive. If somebody has a great disc record against me and, like, it jams like, cool, that's fine. Let's all. Let's all dance to it.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Striking a chord for A minor and it's about me. Nah. You and your wife get in the Uber and go home when you hear that record.
Julian
What do y'all feel about him taking those lines from old tweets that's allegedly.
Mal
Doing that that was awesome.
Damaris
First of all, I came on this pod two pods ago and said, three pods ago, they both stole from Twitter. We can't just say Drake did it. We can't just say rapping like you.
Rory
Trying to free the slaves. Also from Twitter.
Julian
Oh, was it?
Rory
Yes.
Julian
I didn't see that tweet.
Rory
All of that. All of that rhetoric was all from Twitter. And also, you do know that people can edit their tweets. People go back and edit the tweets to look like the exact lyrics, and then they get screenshotted. It was a campaign. It wasn't real.
Mal
That was a bought campaign. They all so happened to find the tweets from their archives and be like, oh, my God, you owe me royalties. I'm not. We're too smart for that.
Damaris
Okay, well, in the case of Lizzo versus the state, they may have a. A chance because Lizzo stole that. What's. What's her famous line?
Rory
Baby, how you feeling? Looking good.
Damaris
No, I'm. I'm a bad.
Mal
Yeah, what's that. What's that line? What's that damn song called?
Damaris
I'm. I'm Lizzo. I tested positive for being a bad or something.
Rory
No, that was not.
Julian
I remember that.
Mal
I'm 100.
Rory
That.
Mal
Yes.
Rory
So that was a. I took a DNA test. Turns out I'm 100%.
Damaris
She did 23andMe. That was a. That was a tweet. And that actually went to court because I think, like, Lizzo liked the shit or something. It was proven that Lizzo saw that tweet. I don't even know what the results of that were, but if somebody could prove it. Yeah, go try to get your publishing. I'd want some pub on.
Julian
On.
Damaris
Not like us.
Julian
There's been so many rabbit holes around this whole.
Damaris
That's where I'm getting tired because I don't even know what to believe at this point. I've been on. What is it? Ebony something. Don't do that.
Rory
Okay?
Damaris
You know the concept. Everyone knows what the I'm talking about. Relax.
Julian
I know you like black women.
Damaris
I know that nothing about my Brazer's account.
Mal
Yeah, Ebony Prince 2k24 for those that don't know.
Damaris
Over the weekend, this account popped up with a video of all the items that were in the Meet the Grams artwork. And that's where Drake up. He's dealing with like real life super villains. Anyone that holds a pill case up by a string at a balcony, that's like the joker in real life. Drake definitely overestimated who the was going. Going against him. So this came out and apparently the rumor is this person worked at the Mark Hotel.
Mal
Is it? Yep.
Damaris
And has footage of Drake in the lobby. Stole all these items.
Julian
How does this person get surveillance footage?
Damaris
They work at the hotel. How did someone get the footage of the Solange and Hoe fight? They worked at the.
Julian
Whatever.
Mal
The hotel is the standard.
Damaris
The standard.
Julian
So this gentleman worked at the Mark Hotel in New York and he's claiming that he's the one that stole luggage.
Damaris
They've.
Rory
Whatever it is, has been very cryptic.
Damaris
On how everything has happened. And at this point, I don't really know who to believe because I've seen some of the wildest theories that this person has. Footage of Drake smacking somebody in a wheelchair, which is like this shit.
Julian
Got it. All right, go ahead. No, go ahead, go ahead.
Rory
Don't bring that up. Cause that's stupid. This actually makes sense.
Julian
Just go ahead, man. Let's just talk about it all.
Damaris
So to me again, someone that binge watches like the Netflix crime series, I love looking into all this shit. Me and Julian were sending tweets back and forth all day because we enjoy.
Mal
This type of stuff all weekend. It was great.
Damaris
You start to lose, like, not to say anyone has had credibility, but once you land on, oh, that like screenshot of the security footage of Drake with. I guess that fan that's in a wheelchair is with him a lot.
Julian
Mr.
Mal
Potato Head.
Damaris
Lost my train of thought. Just. He just be.
Mal
Well, if you said he sm. There were rumors that he smacked him.
Damaris
That they landed on. There's footage of Drake smacking this gentleman. And, and that's where I'm like, all right, guys, I get it. You can land on pedophile. Because we've seen the dms, we've seen the video footage of him on stage with the 17 year old. Now we're landing on Drake smacking the. Out of a guy in a wheelchair on a breathing tube in a New York City hotel lobby.
Julian
That's what I'm saying.
Damaris
That's where we've land.
Julian
And like, how, how deep. How, how pause. How deep into this beef do you have to be to fall in these rabbit holes?
Damaris
And I'm trying to be.
Julian
As soon as I hear this, I'm just not listening no more. As soon as somebody say, yo, yeah, Drake slapped the guy in a wheelchair, I'm just not listening.
Rory
No, of course. And I think that that's stupid. But the other thing about the Mark Hotel and the items and the fake lie. Oh, we set you up with all of that stuff not being true, that is worth discussing because that is starting to make sense.
Damaris
Well, I think.
Julian
Is it?
Damaris
I think both sides have lied. And I think we need one more round with these two. But no one can lie.
Mal
No, you can lie. That's be.
Damaris
No, no. I'm saying Kendrick outlawed him out strategy out everything Drake on this entire thing. I think Kendrick lied. I think Drake lied, but Kendrick just did it better. We need one round of just like, all right. Everyone has to tell the truth.
Rory
Truth might be boring.
Mal
That's whack gives a shit about the truth.
Julian
See?
Mal
Keep lying. Kendrick's a better.
Damaris
Okay, but the hard part. Six lies were boring to me.
Mal
Yeah, that shit age like milk.
Rory
They said it age like the Olsen twins.
Mal
That's fucked because they have the eating disorders and shit. That's funny, though.
Damaris
I thought cocaine was supposed to be like the fountain of youth. I've seen a lot of cokeheads that look great. They probably had the first Fentanyl ever. Anyways. I don't really know what to believe anymore. I didn't want to come in here and do the whole deep dive of what happened this weekend. Everyone just is continuing to put out bullshit. It's Twitter accounts of people we don't fucking know giving information as if it's fact. I'm with Questlove now. This is not music anymore. This is just weird conspiracies back and forth for what the fuck is going on.
Julian
So what does this mean for, like, future rap beefs, though? Or is this something that is just. There's not gonna be specific to who this is because of. It's Drake and Kendrick. Do you. Do you think that social media, the presence of social media in these beefs now and different platforms and things like that, do you think that affects how rap beefs play out now? Or is this just specific to these two?
Damaris
I think it's both. Because I saw Shout out to Danny from the stop. He tweeted today. You could get an easy 200,000 views right now on YouTube just for bringing up Drake's name and shitting on Drake. It's back to our conversation of these are just content creators and they happen to be talking about the biggest thing at the moment. If this wasn't Drake and Kendrick, I don't know if it had the legs that, like, I don't see anyone doing deep dives on Game and Rick Ross right now. And Game is rapping. Rapping. It's for the moment of who it is just now. I don't even know what the. I also don't care anymore. I hope no children were harmed and I hope Whitney was not harmed. Like I'm being that corny guy now.
Julian
And it's up that you got to be that guy. But that's where it's at because it's.
Damaris
It'S just past anything to do with lyrics.
Julian
Yeah, I'm kind of on that side of. You know, I always just tried to talk about the music and the bars and that part of this whole battle. But all this other shit is like, I mean, at this point we're gonna get an episode of fucking SVU behind this shit now. Like that's where this is going. This is like soap opera shit now.
Damaris
Can I ask you a question though, with your theory? Well, not your theory, but your stance. Last time we spoke about this on Meet the Grams, I said I love that as a dis record. You said, well the third verse, Drake does not have an 11 year old kid. So cancel it out. Like that can't count. I personally believe that Dave Free is not the father of Kendrick's child. I also don't think drake planted that 11 year old kid story. I think he was lying on Heart Part Six. If that's the case, do we cancel out Family Matters and hart part 6 by your rules of if. If it's a lie, it can't count because I really don't think Drake planted this.
Julian
And not canceling out none of Kendrick's records.
Rory
That's not, that's not what he's asking. He's asking specifically if. Does your rule also apply to Drake?
Julian
Yeah, my rule applies to anybody.
Damaris
So if Drake is in fact completely lying that he planted this 11 year old kid thing to Kendrick on hard part six, is he in the same boat that you put Kendrick of? Like, yo, you're just lying. You're saying anything.
Julian
Yeah, if it's not. If it's not. If it's not valid shit. Now with the whole day Free shit. He said I heard it might be. He didn't say. As a matter of factly, he didn't say it's a fact. None of that shit. He said he heard it might be. So he didn't lie about that.
Damaris
Okay, but you are right, he didn't lie about that. You are right. On a technical level, just listen to the words. If it would have been Wumbar.
Rory
He made that shit a whole verse.
Julian
I'm just saying.
Damaris
Yeah, but then In Heart Part 6 he doubled down. It wasn't.
Julian
I heard one of those kids. I heard one of those kids might be. That's all.
Damaris
He didn't say, can you bring up the Heart Part 6 lyrics. Because you're right on family matters. He said that. He said, like, even though that wasn't.
Julian
Like, if Dave your girl and got her pregnant. Like, if Dave your girl and got her pregnant.
Damaris
Okay, so was that really the nuke that Drake thought it'd be, then if we're gonna get, like, semantics with the actual words.
Julian
What are you talking about?
Damaris
I heard it might be. Is not a fucking nuke, fam.
Julian
If.
Damaris
If it's a nuke.
Julian
If y'all called it. If y'all calling it a nuke. Because he got exposed for having a kid, which, again, he didn't even know if the kid was really his or not yet during that whole Pusha shit. And that was a nuke for y'all in that battle. Y'all feel like that's what killed Drake? Cause how is. How is. If your fucking general manager had sex with your baby mother or your fiance and one of your kids might be his, how is that not a nuke?
Damaris
But Pusha didn't say.
Julian
That's more of a nuke thing.
Damaris
Pusha T. Didn't say, drake, you might be hiding a child. He said, drake, you are hiding a child, period.
Rory
No question mark.
Damaris
Dead beat motherfucker playing border patrol.
Julian
Right, but we got that part. But after that, we know that during that time when the record came out, it was a paternity thing going on.
Rory
I didn't know that there was not a paternity. And I also don't think that that's true, because it is true.
Julian
You didn't know if that was true.
Rory
Because wasn't the Adidas that Adidas press run line? Didn't he have the thing lined up with Adidas to reveal his son?
Damaris
That. That was the rumor at that point, I really think.
Julian
Another rumor. Not a fact, another rumor.
Rory
Okay.
Julian
This is all I'm saying. Like this. You got to keep up with all this.
Damaris
It wasn't a rumor, because clearly we see Adonis. No, it wasn't.
Julian
No, no, no.
Damaris
Having a nuke was the truth. And I'm saying if Drake was sitting on this nuke, like, this is gonna.
Julian
You don't know if this is not true or not yet.
Damaris
I know. I just said. I. I'm speculating. I feel like, personally, without facts, that that is not Dave Reeschild. I just don't.
Julian
Okay.
Damaris
And I'm saying, Drake, on a strategy level, if that was what you were sitting on, like, yo, I got the nuke. And it's. Yo, I heard. I heard that might be Dave's. That's not a nuke. You don't need to drop the beat out. If I really thought Drake knew that. For real, to me, that's a crazy nuke. If you know that, which is. Where'd you hear that?
Mal
And Pharrell confirmed that Drake had a deal with Adidas, by the way.
Damaris
Yeah, yo, he did.
Julian
I think that. That wasn't. We knew that. I'm talking about it being a check. Silver stripes, like him using this kid as a rollout to Adidas deal that people were saying was supposed to be a thing.
Rory
It was supposed. I think the. The line in Adidas was called Adidon. Yeah, that's where. That's where story of Adidon came from. Because that was supposed to be the sneaker that was supposed to come out, and his son was supposed to be premier with it. Drake knew that that was his kid. When Pusha T dropped that song. That was not a rumor. Paternity. He knew it was his kid.
Julian
I don't know about that.
Damaris
Did he?
Rory
He started showing a little baby, like, soon after. Like, it wasn't.
Damaris
Yeah, because he even said he went to Wyoming and sent Kanye a photo of his kid. That's why he thought Kanye was the original leak, because he went there. He played on March 15. He said all this shit on the shop. Played on March 15, sent him a photo of his son. Like. Yeah, Not. Drake knew that was his kid before that whole push thing. Now, do we think Drake changed his child's name because of that? No one ever explained the added on to Adonis thing.
Rory
I think added on was the name of the sneaker that was coming out. It wasn't named after. It was named after Adonis, but not his. Yeah.
Damaris
Either way, I'm. I don't know. I'm left in the middle with this entire thing. I think everyone's lying, and I'm curious to see how this plays out, but we can't.
Julian
Do you want more records, though?
Damaris
Yeah, of course. I just don't want any more of this, like, hotel.
Julian
You don't want no more National Enquirer soap opera shit. You just want music.
Damaris
Yes. Like I did from the beginning.
Julian
And if people do that, cool.
Damaris
But I don't know. Maybe I just need to close the phone, I guess. It's not their fault. It's mine.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Why am I. I'm sorry, guys.
Rory
And then this is a meeting. To my phone.
Damaris
I should just close my phone. You guys want to do that.
Julian
I'm falling those rabbit holes, man. Once somebody said, nah, I heard he slaps. I heard once you say, I heard. I done.
Mal
Well, they were on your ass all weekend.
Rory
Again, you saying you don't fall in rabbit holes. But we had the discussion with that rabbit hole of that was. Drake set that whole thing up with the little girl picture in the back. When that picture was hanging for two years. We discussed that. That was a rabbit hole that you fell in.
Julian
No, that was part of. It wasn't a rabbit hole. That was just on the timeline. Once Drake put the hard part six out and said that he had fed that information. But that wasn't a rabble. I was listening to music.
Damaris
Do you think Drake's IG post. What was this on Saturday or something? He posted what looks like a. A whole army against one person and said good times. Summer vibes up next.
Mal
White flag.
Damaris
Do you think he can passion fruit his way out of this?
Mal
Drop another controller.
Julian
What is passion fruit his way out.
Mal
Of what Make a pop.
Damaris
People were alluding that. If he's saying summer. Summer vibes up next. Meaning Drake is just gonna go focus on making music again and summer records. I'm not. I'm not addressing this. I'm done. I already faced all hundred of you. That was fun. I'm moving on to just making music. That's how people interpreted this. And I do too. I think this was his way. I don't think he's waving the white flag, but I think he is done now with the direct back and forth records. I think he recorded a bunch and decided just not to drop them and will hear bars on the album directed towards Kenny.
Mal
Let's go back to subbing people to death.
Julian
This is. This is just. I think what he does pretty much his entire career is just make music. He's making music for battle. He's making music for summer vibes now. It's nothing out of his wheelhouse. It's making music now. I don't think it'll be with the same energy as these records that we've gotten over the past month. Um, but I do think that it's. It's. It's going to be some songs in there where some lines are dedicated to certain individuals. But I don't think the energy will be battle energy. I don't think it'll be that.
Damaris
I kind of know your answer, but I'm still going to ask the question the same way you look at Cole with the braggadocious like shit, you can't really hear that the same way now. Drake participated, so he can still talk greasy. He was talking greasy after the Pusha shit, and it still sounded fine. Do you think he's allowed to say bars? Like, if I push this button, everybody's heaven gated anymore. Can he really brag the way he was bragging before? Because I think this is drastically different than what the Pusha T shirt was. All right, you hit a kid, you bowed out. J. Prince, whatever. I like Scorpion. It was cool. This is way different. You have a pedo stain. It's Kendrick Lamar. I don't know if he can just put out another song without people having a different view of him. You bowed out of the shit. You trolled somebody for a whole week, asked them to drop all 10 records. Then they.
Julian
But why do you. But why do you keep saying bowed out of it? Like, why do you say that? I think. I think J. Cole bowed out.
Damaris
No, Drake participated, so he can still talk greasy. I give him the utmost respect. I think that job, anyone that stays and goes back and forth with any rapper, I give respect. You participated. If you lost cool people take Ls.
Julian
I think in this, people are. Because I think people want it to continue as long as people want it to continue. And because one artist is like, all right, fam. How many times are we supposed to go back and forth with this? I'm not gonna spend seven more records going at you, okay? To me, that's not bowing out. That's saying, like, all right, you wanna keep going back and forth. Cool. Do your thing. I'm going on vacation. I got more music coming this summer. Like, have fun.
Damaris
To bow out of the current thing.
Julian
That's bowing out. He entertained it. I think that an artist does have a say in when they feel like, yo, I'm not gonna keep going back and forth, like, for another month. Cause this. When does it stop? At the time.
Mal
Yeah, but he reserves the right to make that decision. But we reserve the right to criticize his decision.
Julian
Sure. But my opinion. But that's not bowing out. To me, that's not bowing out.
Rory
What Mall is saying you should provide. Okay, if you guys are gonna criticize that decision, what should be the alternative? Is the alternative him going for another five songs?
Julian
At some point, it has to stop.
Mal
It always has to stop. You can stop and win. That's the point of a beef, is to win.
Rory
So you want him to keep going until he wins.
Mal
I'm saying, I. I was under the impression, based on how Pusha went, that Drake was coming into this differently with the attitude of fuck it, I can't lose this one. My mistake last time was not putting out music. I'm not going to make that mistake again. I think he's bowing out for other reasons outside. I think this not even in the whole conspiracy thing. I think like Kendrick knows more shit. I think he wrote 10 records. He's got a lot of nice stuff sitting on ice right now, ready to press go. And I think Drake was like, I'm good. And it stopped.
Rory
I don't think it's it. I think that Drake.
Mal
I think it's pretty simple. I don't think it's this complicated, complex thing.
Rory
I think Drake is starting to realize or just think this, that no matter what he does, people don't wanna see him win. And I think he's starting to realize that no matter what he does, no.
Julian
Matter how good the music is, Drake learned a very. He learned a very. What I think he learned during this is because I don't think that all of these people that are playing these record are Kendrick fans. I don't believe that. I believe these are people that just don't like Drake. And they were waiting for their moment to be like, I'm finally get rid of this light skinned kid from Canada that I fucking hate whining on every record.
Rory
Or they could be objective and just choose Kendrick over Drake.
Julian
They don't have to be that too.
Damaris
But I think it's the in the moment fan. They move to the next moment. Right now. This is the moment. Yeah, it's just cool shit on Drake.
Julian
That's what I think.
Damaris
Has a good running thing.
Julian
It's like a moment like I get it, you know, Hate Drake. We want him gone. He's been on top of the charts way too long. He's not real hip hop. Whatever. We know things that people say. Whatever. I get it. And I just think that in this moment those voices became magnified because it was a battle with him and somebody and they were just waiting for that opportunity to say, fuck him, you lost. Get out of here. You're a pedophile. You slapped a guy in a wheelchair. You're on Ozempic. You got a nose job. You gotta. Hey, Ross, gotta respond.
Damaris
We're gonna get to that.
Julian
I'm gonna just put. Cause I'm just in my mind, you.
Damaris
Know, let's wrap this and then we'll get right to the game.
Julian
I just think in that moment, I just think in this moment, Drake found that out and he felt that and he's probably like, okay, Cool. I'll be the villain or hate me now. Whatever. I'm going to enjoy my vacation summer vibes. Up next.
Mal
Oh, he'll make a song that'll make people love him again.
Rory
He need another nice. For what? That's what I want to hear.
Mal
Yeah, he need to get a bunch of black women, put them in a video, do that whole empowering shit.
Rory
Older ones with Bob.
Damaris
Of course. Drake is never going to be over for Drake. He's Drake. He's one of the biggest artists ever. He'll be fine. But I'm saying for the first time, it's going to be in the back of people's heads, no matter how good the next single is. But to my original question, can he talk the same way he did on 9am in Charlotte? Same way he did on red button 8am? Yeah, this like after Scorpion. Even though he bowed out of that shit, he was still talking greasy and it sounded fine, like it was okay. I think it's a little different now that Drake will make a hit. Cool Wall Dance to it. I'm talking about when he's rapping on the next album. You can't talk the same way you talked on Nadia Charlotte to me.
Rory
Why can't he though? That's why. I don't understand why he did that.
Julian
After y'all said he lost the pusher, he was still talking the same way.
Damaris
But I never said at that point. At that point, I didn't think he could not talk greasy. You're still Drake. You were battling someone. And I mean this very respectfully. To push as far as numbers go, someone very beneath you as far as status in numbers wise. You can keep talking greasy to all these other rappers. Cool. It's different now. You met your match. You can't say bars like if I hit this red button, everybody's heaven gated because you hit the red button and no one went to heaven. Metro is still. Still doing fine, doing better. Everyone that he dissed in that whole. Is no one's heaven gated. So can he talk that way again?
Julian
Yeah, I think so.
Damaris
It's going to sound the same way you said with Cole.
Julian
No, it's not. Stop saying that. Stop saying that. Stop saying that. Please stop bringing J. Cole's name up. I love J. Cole. I love Dreamville. Stop. He is no longer allowed in this conversation. He stepped away from the battle and I'm not mad at him. I'm not different.
Damaris
Drake participated. He could still talk. So you can't talk the way he talked at 9am in Charlotte.
Julian
Yes, he can. Yes, he can. Yes, he can. That's part.
Damaris
You had the opportunity. Nothing happened.
Julian
That's the luxury of being in a battle. Win, lose, a draw. I was in it. Yeah, whatever happens from. It happens. One of us got to lose. One of us, whatever. But when you jump in the battle and the other guy's ready to come out of the dressing room, and then you jump out of the ring, like, nah, I'm cool. You can't compare that to what Drake did.
Damaris
And if you cannot compare, back in the tape. Cause we actually do this on tape, not even digital. I said it's different because he participated, and I respect Drake for that. You could still talk your shit. People take. Ls. You just can't talk the same exact way you have been for the last.
Julian
You can, man.
Damaris
Five, six years.
Julian
Yes, you can, bro. He went through it. He went in the battle. Now, whether you feel like he won or lost, that's cool. That's subjective. That's up to you. But you can't say, oh, now you got. You can't talk the same.
Damaris
Yes, you can.
Julian
I was in a battle. Jay and Nas battle. You feel like Jay lost. That didn't stop the way Jay was talking.
Damaris
Yeah, he told us that he was contributing to the 911 fund. Gotcha, Nas, Whatever.
Julian
What I'm saying is, no matter what, win, lose, or draw, as long as you go to the battle and you battle, you still can come out of that talking. However you was talking before that, when you back out of the battle, you can't talk about that.
Damaris
I think you're missing my point. He can still talk his shit, but can he say bars? Like, if I hit this red button, everybody's heaven gets it?
Julian
Yes, he can. Yes.
Damaris
Then why is everyone still on the earth?
Julian
Yes, he can still talk about it.
Rory
Because first of all, that's obviously like a euphemism. And not every single bar has to be true. Niggas lie in their raps all the time. It's not that deep. I think you looking a little bit too deep into. Drake will be absolutely fine. And on top of that, it ain't like Drake went against some little nigga and got washed. Drake went against arguably the second biggest rapper in the world. Like, he can still. It's like, okay, I went against Kendrick Lamar. I don't know who the fuck you think you talking to, but you can't sit with us like I had actual competition. If I lost, I lost. That's fine. I think he's fine. I think he's fine. I think he can talk as greasy as he wants. I think actually he'll talk greasier. Or he might go back into his womanizing toxic bag.
Mal
I wonder what accent he's gonna pop out with.
Damaris
Y'all was saying that NBA players couldn't even brag about their. Their bubble ring. Now Drake can brag about this whole.
Rory
I think you can still brag about it.
Julian
How is that the same? Yo? How is that the same? Please land that. How is that the same? How is a bubble ring the same as this battle?
Rory
How.
Damaris
Because you can't brag about how you will end everybody. And clearly, in the last two battles, you haven't ended anyone. Okay, so the bubble ring, you were saying, yo, bragging about some shit no one even understands.
Rory
Like, it was.
Damaris
It was a fucking summer league.
Rory
He ended Rocky.
Mal
That wasn't the real beef.
Rory
You. But he keep bringing up.
Damaris
Listen, love that part. And he smoked Rocky. I thought Rocky was stupid. Like, he set that up so easy for Drake. But is it over for Rocky? Because Drake said he fucked Rihanna when we already knew he did. Yeah.
Rory
No, it's not over for him. But in the battle. He won that battle.
Damaris
I mean, that was going to go without saying, but everyone.
Rory
He can still say, hit this red button, everybody. Heavy gated. He won.
Damaris
Rocky is on earth doing just fine.
Julian
Rick Ross got to respond.
Rory
I agree.
Julian
And y'all know how I feel about Rick, one of my favorite rappers. But you can't pick and choose. You can't respond to Drake. For them four bars, he sent your way in push ups as fast as you did. And y'all know I came here and was like, I don't think Ross should have responded so quick with that battle. Because we were here to see Drake and Kendrick, and that kind of took some of the steam away for a moment. But this game record, Freeway's Revenge, I believe it's called Rick, you gotta respond. One of my favorite MCs. I respected you for responding to Drake because you were mc and the MC says your name, you write to it. I'm not putting a clock on you. Cause I think that that's stupid. When fans be like, yo, you got 48 hours to respond. I'm not one of those guys. But you responded really fast to Drake. I'm expecting. Expecting a response to the game. That's all. That's all I'm saying. It has to. And I get it. I understand. You know, Ross put out a video and, you know, N is starving. They hungry. You know, whatever you want. To say, but you got to get in that booth and put pen to paper. It has to happen. That's just part of. That's just part of it.
Rory
What do you think about games? What do you think about games? Effort.
Julian
Oh, game. I mean, but that's what this. What game do game was itching for. The listen, when I heard. When I seen them. When I seen them tweets. And I said, yo, here, the record is done. Yeah, the record. If you know the game, listen, the record is done. It's ready to upload.
Damaris
You think Kendrick having 10 records is crazy?
Julian
Yeah. No, the game got. He got records.
Damaris
There's 45 sitting right now.
Julian
Done. The records are done, waiting to go. So listen, and Rory could tell you, Ross is one of my. He's high on my list. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, all right, we can't do the selective politics. See, this is where it gets sticky at. We can't do the selective politicking and jump out there and go at the light skinned kid that sings and raps from Canada. But then the kid from Compton wants some smoking.
Rory
Listen, man, but you can't downplay Drake like that when it comes to Ross's effort at going at him. Oh, you can't come at the light skinned kid from Canada. No, it's. Oh, you can't just come at the biggest rapper in the world. Say it like that. Don't downplay it.
Julian
No, I'm just saying what online are saying. I'm just saying what online is saying. Like, these are the. You know, this is what they call Drake.
Rory
Yeah, but they also call Drake the biggest rapper in the more people call him that.
Julian
Even if you don't call them that. We know that. That's what it is. But I'm just saying, like, with the game, it's just a different energy that it takes to. Because the game wants that smoke. You understand what I'm saying? Like, we know. You know, Drake was like, yo, listen, man. And I'm. I feel whack about Drake and Ross getting into it because I love the music that they've given us. I was hoping that we would get a real album from them together. That's probably not gonna happen anymore, but Ross can't jump out there as quick as he did when Drake said his name, shoot a video, have belair in the video. We know that's a promo time. You know, everybody gonna look at this video. We can't make that. That. And then when the game wants some real smoke, just laugh at him and eat cereal out of a Louis Vuitton cereal bowl.
Rory
Well, you had the conversation before that Drake doesn't respond to everybody that comes at him. For example, Yalls old colleague didn't respond to him because he felt like it wasn't worth it. What if Ross feels like game isn't worth it? Like no, like, like he said you hungry niggas is hungry niggas is looking for attention.
Damaris
That's the smartest thing he could ever do in this.
Julian
Yeah, but. But nah, nah. It's different. When just two weeks ago you was at somebody else for maybe he.
Rory
But that's probably because he has a real issue with him. He said he doesn't have a maybe he doesn't have a real issue with game. Game just wants some attention. Is he obligated to give everybody.
Julian
He ain't have no real issue. That wasn't a real issue. A cease and desist French is still following him.
Mal
Yeah, but if you're gonna shoot, shoot up.
Damaris
No, we know it was something else. Ross just.
Rory
Yeah, I was gonna say it's something else for sure.
Mal
And see if you're gonna like, if you're gonna shoot shoot up. I'd go after Drake over a game.
Julian
Of course you would do more for you than anything else in your career.
Mal
Yeah. So that, that I. That's smart on Ross's part.
Julian
Nah, but that's. But nah, but we MC. He's an MC's though. It's a law. It's a law.
Mal
What law?
Julian
He's being called out. He's being. He's being called to the. To the floor.
Rory
That's. But see you. But you don't apply that law to.
Julian
Game is not a formidable opponent. We're not gonna do that. I think so. So let's keep it right there.
Damaris
Got the plaques and hit records to prove.
Julian
Let's keep it right there. This is game.
Rory
But I'm talking about ma moving the goal post because you don't want Drake to respond to every single body, every single person that threatens him or that shoots shots at him.
Julian
Ross the ones that's not formidable. Yeah. Like what are you talking about? Like this is Rick Ross and this is game. Last game. Absolutely perform the game like absolutely. He should absolutely respond to game. Like we not going to act like game is not worth a response. Like we not doing that.
Rory
No, I'm not. I'm talking about as far as popularity and levels where their career is right now. Do I think that the game is more talented than Rick Ross when it comes to lyricism. Yes. But he doesn't have the career that Rick Ross has at this moment. Game has not been on top for a long time.
Mal
This is a losing battle for Ross. I think Game would wash him.
Rory
He has nothing to gain from this.
Mal
The Game would wash him. And it would optically, to Damaris's point to the public, look like Ross lost to someone smaller than him.
Julian
You think? You think?
Mal
I think Game would clean Ross's clock.
Julian
Why you think that?
Mal
The Game. I think he's more equipped for this. We just saw Battle.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Game has 12.8 monthly listeners on Spotify. Ross has 14.
Julian
Yeah, we not doing that. I don't know.
Mal
I don't know where y'all like more.
Julian
Yeah. But I don't know where y'all. I don't know where y'all. I don't know where y'all was going with that. But Ross absolutely needs to respond to Games. I don't know where y'all was just trying to go with this.
Damaris
He needs to look at the smart thing for his career would be to pretend like Game is beneath him when he's not.
Mal
Thank you.
Damaris
Because this, like I said.
Julian
So then that's not the smart thing to do. Cause we know he's not.
Damaris
I said last episode. This is going. This will go bad for Ross. Game one not let up. Also. Ross may have met his match too. As far as a beat picker, Game doesn't get the credit that he deserves. As far as his ear and the beats he picks, I. E. The free Rick Ross, whatever shit, two fire beats. Ross is not just going to out beat him when it comes to that. He's going to need Wale to help him ghost. Right. He's going to need a lot of help if he wants to go against Game. Game is never going to let up. Game control better than you on the Internet. And Ross is one of the best.
Julian
Yeah. But I think y'all. I think y'all.
Damaris
Game is going to shoot videos Game is going to go to. He's probably on a flight to Miami right now.
Julian
Ross is the same way. Ross control. He. Ross trolls. He does all of that too.
Damaris
I know.
Julian
His personality's funny.
Rory
Right?
Julian
So which is why he got to get in that booth and put a record together.
Rory
I agree.
Julian
We're not gonna act like Ross can't rap. We're not gonna act like Ross can't put out a dope record.
Rory
He can. I just think he can out rap battle the Game. Not many people can out rap battle the Game.
Julian
I hear You. He gotta respond. He gotta put a record out. Like, we not going. We not doing. Let's. No selective politicking when it comes to emceeing. If you're gonna go at Drake one week and then the Game go at you the next, you gotta go at Game the next week.
Damaris
We're agreeing with you. We're just saying it would be a very bad idea for Rick Ross to do that.
Julian
I don't know. I don't know why y'all saying that. I don't. I don't think y'all. I gotta put more respect on Ross on his pen.
Damaris
I feel like we spoke this into existence five fucking years ago when you and I were debating about Ross versus Game, which we said on record was the weirdest debate we were ever having. Like, these two aren't even really the same. Like, why are we even debating this? Hov even got into the mix about it when we had that argument. It's so weird to me how the world works that we spoke this into existence and finally we're going to see that I was right. Game is a better rapper.
Rory
If I needed a number one record. What? I throw Rick Ross in the studio for a number one record before a Game. But Game can rap.
Damaris
I love poking the bear. Game is a better rapper than Rick Ross. I said this five years ago to you, and we argued about it.
Julian
And we about to argue again. You fucking tripping to the point. Ross can rap. We not. Listen, man, stop. See, this is what I'm saying. Y'all don't be.
Mal
That's not saying he can't rap.
Julian
Yeah, but. No, but he's saying it like. Like. Like it's not going. Like he's going to get smoked. Like his clock is going to get clean. Are we not doing that?
Damaris
His clock will get cleaned from Jason Taylor.
Julian
Listen, I with Game. I with Game. And this is what Game do. He does this. He does his battle.
Damaris
And now you're downplaying Game. Yes, Game does this better than most rappers. But Game also has classic albums. Game also has hit records. Game also has a discography that is undeniable, for sure. He doesn't put out music.
Julian
Ross, too.
Damaris
You could say he does Goofy in his personal life. I don't care.
Julian
Ross, too.
Damaris
He got one dis to Birdman, who don't rap.
Julian
Ross got classic records.
Damaris
Of course he's.
Julian
He got hit records.
Damaris
He has a Teflon, has a classic.
Julian
He has classic mixtapes, for sure. So what are we saying?
Damaris
I'm saying the Game is a Better rapper than Rick Ross. I'm not saying who makes better music.
Julian
This is why this.
Damaris
But then when it comes, got to.
Julian
Drop the shit, man, because I don't want to keep yelling at you. I just want to play the record.
Damaris
He needs to call Wale, Stalli, Pill. Who else got dropped from mmg.
Mal
Pill.
Damaris
Shout out to Pill.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
He needs to call everybody that can rap. Rap for real, to get help.
Julian
That's crazy that you. I mean, listen. I'm not. Listen, the game Game is. This is what he does. He's equipped for this battle shit. This is what he do. But we not gonna act like Ross can't put pen to paper and rap his ass.
Damaris
Who gets Cool and Dre in the divorce? Cause that, you know, Game has already reached out to Cool and Dre. He's making chess moves. You might hear gunplay on that intro.
Julian
Mm.
Damaris
Does one get cool and the other one get Dre?
Julian
I don't know, but I want to see this, though. I want to hear the music that comes from this, though.
Rory
I don't think Ross is gonna respond.
Damaris
What's crazy?
Julian
Nah, don't say that.
Damaris
What's crazy is there's so much ammo against the game.
Julian
Don't say that.
Rory
Yo, he's like the easiest target.
Julian
Don't say that.
Damaris
There's so much material to go back. I'm just saying you're dealing with a monster.
Julian
No, listen. The game. This is what Game does. He does. This is where he fucking thrives. This is like. Game is like he was waiting to come off the bench and just be like, yo, go get a bucket. Because this is what he do. Yo, just go get a bucket.
Rory
He been a practice and warmups.
Julian
Go get a fucking bucket. All right, cool, son.
Rory
Working out.
Julian
This is what Game does. But we not going to act like Ross is just somebody that, you know, is just going to get steamrolled in this, because this is what Game he can. He can rap with the best of them, and he has rapped with the best of them. So, I mean, we going. This is why we need the record. See what I'm saying? This is why we need a Ross response, because we got to have something to go off of. We have to. You got to just see how he constructs a record going. That Game. We gotta. We gotta hear it. It. We have to hear it. There's no way. Ross cannot respond to this.
Damaris
The window right now is open with sexual assault and raps. Game has cases. Game has photos. This Ross is wasting his time is all.
Julian
Why is Ross wasting this time if.
Damaris
This because it's been three days and he has a window to get the pedophile shit off. I think Game is going to drop tonight.
Julian
No, I don't think so.
Damaris
Ross is wasting too much time.
Julian
Why do y'all keep through this whole battle? Why do y'all keep putting this clock on these rappers?
Damaris
Because it's 2024.
Julian
But that's stupid. Like, I didn't. I don't. I didn't. I don't think anybody ever said, yo, Nas got two days to respond after Jay dropped his.
Rory
Like, also, where you know that we have a short attention. Everybody has a shorter attention span now.
Damaris
And we'll move on from this. This isn't Drake and Kendrick. Why I liked Ross's response to Drake was, I wasn't looking for it, but he did it in record time. I was like, all right, I'll listen to it.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
I wasn't mad at it, but I was mad at the timing of it.
Damaris
But I'm saying, no, this people will move on by next week if there isn't some quick responses with this.
Julian
Nah, I think they'll be right back. Whenever Ross decides to drop this record and it's aimed at Game, people, be right back, front and center to entertain this whole back and forth. I don't think that people are sitting there like people were through the Drake and Kendrick shit. Like, yo, is he driving tonight? Is he driving? It's not that. That type of anticipation, but trust and believe. If a Ross record hits the timeline next week and it's a director that responded to game, people are listening to that shit 1000%.
Damaris
We shall see. It's going to look a little crazy for Richard Ross.
Rory
Over and under on what? Shout out to DraftKings. Who going to win? You want to do an Official Ross in 3, game in 2? What we gonna do?
Julian
See, I don't know if Ross is gonna. I don't know if Ross is gonna do that. I don't know if he's gonna be keep dropping every time Game responds with another record.
Rory
Oh, I know, I know.
Julian
I don't think. I don't think Ross is gonna do that, but I do think he's gonna drop a record here. He has to.
Damaris
But he looks funny and the like. Cause we love that he trolls all day. Whether it was with DJ Envious or whoever he's talking to.
Julian
Envious.
Damaris
It's not like Kendrick who disappears all the time. You can't be on the Internet trolling all day when there's two records in the atmosphere about you.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
And you just avoiding it.
Julian
That's nasty.
Damaris
Like, you look.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
If Ross was someone that, like, disappeared a lot, it wouldn't be like, all right, maybe he'll address it when he gets the time.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
You can't be on the Internet all goddamn day and you're not addressing what the. Is happening.
Julian
Yeah, he got a response. I do think a response is coming. Ross is. Like I said in the Drake, she's an emce. This is what he does. He raps. I'm just hoping. I think he will, but I'm hoping that he responds soon. That's all.
Damaris
Game is gonna be in Rick Ross's driveway by Friday with his phone out. Yo, let's fight. And Game will be serious.
Julian
See, that's what I don't want. See, that's. To me, it's like, come on, man. Like, don't. It don't gotta go to that. It don't gotta go to fighting. But, like, I want the music, though. Like, I want. Anytime Ross drops a record, I wanna hear what Ross is. Is saying. So give. Give us that. At least give us the record. I don't want to see nobody fighting. I don't see nobody shooting. And all of that is weird. They lose me with that type of. But I want to hear the music, though. 1,000. Oh, Lord.
Rory
Why is Meek Mill coming at 50 Cent? What is going on?
Damaris
That's been going on, though.
Julian
What? Hey, that. Turn my mic. I'm about to start dissing, man. I'm about to start this. Wait till my diss record drop, Yo.
Damaris
I just think people don't understand sometimes. Their opponent Ross with his Game shit, Puff's son with his 50 shit. Like, you're dealing with people that will never.
Julian
Why does anybody want to battle? Why does anybody want to get into a back and forth with 50?
Rory
I'm never getting about. Y'all never gonna hear me saying it, but I'm 50.
Julian
Wake up. Pressing the issue with niggas. Like, he wake up on that type of thing.
Mal
Yeah, I'm good on that.
Rory
I'm good.
Julian
Like, that's the one rapper in all of this that I think everybody should just try to ignore at best is 50 don't. Because you're just gonna lose. He's the most petty. He's the biggest troll next to Kanye. Like, you just don't want. You don't want that issue with you.
Rory
And he's also very tapped in when people are petty and gossip a lot. And like, always, no tea. People bring them tea. So, like, 50 Cent knows a lot of shit about a lot of people because a lot of people confide shit in him. Like, I would never go. I'm not pressing that button. That's red button. Everybody having.
Julian
But what is Meek. What is meek beefing with 50 about now?
Rory
So I. Well, what I'm seeing on my time, I just happened to refresh my timeline while we were recording, and 50 Cent was responding to Diddy's son. Like, why would you say some stupid like this when you know the feds aren't investigating? Meek Mill retweeted it and said, because you're federal, the street and queens know. That's why you trying to pick on a little boy. Your own son hate your guts. I'm so grateful to be on the island with my son and his friends on his birthday. Don't follow these guys. They miserable lives. Be terrible. Talking about 50 Cent, just why, though?
Julian
Yeah, where did that. Where does that come from?
Mal
Like, I don't know. Can Elon just, like, block for, like, a day?
Rory
Does Meek Mill have a close connection to the. The Diddy family and that's why he's, like, sticking up for them while 50 Cent.
Mal
Does Meek have a close connection?
Rory
You know what?
Mal
They were connected to him.
Damaris
That's Uncle Meek.
Julian
Does he have a close connection?
Mal
He was the only.
Julian
You let the Internet tell it. Like, he got a really close connection with. With Diddy. Like, yeah. Which I don't.
Damaris
I think when your mom had that friend you called uncle and then you got older and was like, oh, she was him. Yeah, that's Uncle Meek right there.
Julian
No, that's.
Damaris
He's looking out for his stepson.
Julian
Yeah, but I'm not putting that on. That's. That. I totally. I never believed that. That was just absolute. But for Damaris asking that question, King Combs.
Damaris
Cool. You want to protect your father or step in the line of fire? Everyone in the studio, myself included, everyone in this room, we all need to sit in the studio and go, does the world need this? Does this need to be bounced? Let's listen to it a few more times. Is this necessary to put out in the world?
Rory
Yeah, but nobody.
Damaris
Because if they asked themselves that three times in that studio, somebody would have been like, nah, nah.
Julian
It depends on who's in the studio.
Damaris
It was a fun Saturday. I'm glad we recorded this.
Julian
It depends on who's in the studio.
Damaris
In our group chat, we can play this.
Julian
It depends on who's in the studio.
Damaris
That King Combs diss is so fucking bad. An Offbeat like what?
Rory
Like why not offbeat why?
Julian
But who's expecting it to be like.
Damaris
I've heard him rap on B plenty of times.
Julian
Yeah, but you're not expecting.
Damaris
I like some King Combs music.
Julian
Yeah, but you're not expecting a diss record to be like the one that.
Damaris
He sampled from his dad.
Rory
How you want it with Tiana Taylor is a pretty good record.
Julian
The drum with Kodak is cool. Yeah, I like that one. But I mean, we know why that's. Yeah, you know, cut and copy and paste. That's not hard to do.
Damaris
And like, I don't know, I guess it's all rap and jokes. But what is going to happen when someone says no Diddy? I think no Diddy is corny. I hate when people say it. It's cringe worthy. But King Combs is not his pops.
Julian
Well, listen, he has will go around.
Damaris
And smack somebody if they say, but.
Julian
He has the right to defend his dad and his family's name. Like, he's well within his right of doing that dissing.
Damaris
50.
Julian
Well, I don't. Well, 50 has been one of the loudest for 10 years. Yeah, but he's been as of late with this whole thing. He's been one of the loudest when it came to the whole Diddy situation. So I feel that way.
Damaris
I get it. The Shaq Shannon Sharp thing. Engineers just need to speak up more.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Like, hey, guys, this was fun. We had a fun day in a studio. Does the world really need this?
Julian
Yeah, we didn't need to hear that, Shaq. We didn't need to hear that Shack Shan, like, it's okay to. To just go on your ig and post like, something talking about somebody. Like, you don't have to go to the studio and put something to wax. You don't have to do that. You can straight up just post something on your Twitter, your Instagram. Tell us how you feel about this individual. Call them whatever names you want to call them. Everything doesn't need to be audio on a beat. We don't need that.
Mal
Well, sometimes Twitter's the start of these beefs because someone somehow on this timeline, an old Metro tweet from 2012 came on the timeline where he. He tweeted my phone rings to the studio with Jeezy your rings to sit. Send Soulja Boy packs of beats. Sit down. This is from July 2012. So then Soulja Boy replied, like yesterday, you know, hey, he got 24 hours to delete that tweet. And then 21 savage said, or what? And then we're seeing, you know, Soulja Boy, obviously, that was his green light. Boy, you a bitch. You're not from the A. I'll slap the shit out of you. You're from the uk, all that shit. And then he's been on a rant.
Damaris
Soulja Boy got some nerve to say where somebody's from. And then he said, from Mississippi, Atlanta, Chicago, Compton.
Mal
The most disrespectful thing Soulja did after that was take to Twitter again and say, happy Mother's Day, and added Metro. And if you're not. If you didn't remember, Metro's mom was tragically killed in a murder suicide from her ex husband.
Julian
Soulja Boy tweeted that.
Mal
Yeah, it was today. So this is. He did it on Mother's Day, Mother's Day yesterday.
Julian
See, this is.
Mal
And now all the floodgates are open. So this isn't gone to music. It hasn't gone to records at all. This is purely staying on Twitter. But it's just as bad, if not worse.
Julian
See, you don't. You don't. This is where things can turn quickly. Like, you don't play with somebody like that. Like, happy Mother's Day. And my mom was tragically killed because if I'm. If I'm Metro, you know, and as much as I love my mom, you know, somebody tweets that, it's not even about music no more. Now it's like, I may end up doing something stupid if I cross paths with this dude. And that's. Can you blame him?
Mal
No, because it also gets worse. He tweeted this one also last night. This makes y'all mad, huh? I'm smoking Mama Metro in a fat ass wood right now. So he's tripling down like he doesn't care.
Julian
Yeah, see, I'm not. I'm not like this. I don't even, like, like talking about. Because I know where that type of can go. I know where that energy could take you.
Damaris
In 2016. He threatened to kill me on Twitter. Peach was with me. We were in Houston. Benner was there too.
Julian
You don't. You don't me, bro. This is where I'll kill you.
Damaris
Soldier boy said that to at. This is Rory. This was another one, though. I forgot what was going on. Soulja Boy said he was hacked while he was making videos on the account. Like, you can't be hacked while doing live videos from your Twitter account, right?
Rory
He said his icloud was hacked, though.
Damaris
My Twitter and icloud was hacked. He was legitimately on his timeline, making videos on the hacked account. Like, did they hack your videos? Like, anyways, then from there he told me he was gonna murder me.
Julian
Well, he still might be trying to make good on that promise. You haven't seen him yet, right?
Damaris
No, I have not seen.
Julian
Oh, see, there you go. You might be heaven gated soldier boy. Might have engaged soldier boy.
Rory
Heavy Gates you.
Julian
I wouldn't let that happen to you, bro. I got you. Don't worry about it.
Damaris
Big Draco, he wasn't lying about that home invasion.
Mal
Yeah, didn't he kill someone in that.
Rory
The way he leaned back when he was shooting is the funniest part.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
So currently it looks like it's not just Metro. He's really dogging 21 as well, so.
Rory
Well, because 21 jumped in it, so.
Julian
Yeah, well, 21 and Metro are close friends, so.
Rory
Yeah, 21 said it was up for him. 21 said, when I catch you, like, it's basically like it's over.
Julian
But this is what I'm saying. You start talking about somebody that you're, you know, a friend of mine's mother in that way, I can only expect that. That's what I'm saying. Like, you, you know, you like to play these, you know, people like to say these things on social media and, you know, for whatever reason, you get, you know, traction and interaction with a bunch of people and the shit, like you want that moment. But, you know, it's certain things you just don't play with. You don't. You don't play with somebody's mother not being here anymore.
Rory
Our Mother's Day is crazy.
Julian
Yeah. Like, you don't. That's. That's. It's just certain things that is just.
Mal
Like not a tweet from 12 years ago.
Julian
Yeah, you don't play with shit like that. So I, you know, this type of shit, unfortunately, I do feel like this is going to turn into something that we don't need and we don't want to see. But, you know, when you say things like this directed at people and, you know, you can't expect somebody to have or take the high road all the time and to do the right thing and to ignore certain things. Certain things affect people, and when you say that with intent to affect somebody, sometimes you get what you ask for, but sometimes you don't know what else is coming with what you asked for. So, you know, I'm not gonna pay that too much mind, but it's just, you know, this is the type of shit you don't want to See, though.
Damaris
I just feel like Soulja Boy has done this so much that it's just another day on the timeline. He's saying 21. Savage signed the boxing contract. What happened to the contract with Chris Brown that Floyd was putting together? What happened to the Blueface? Like, he sent a million addresses.
Julian
You talking about. I said, I'm not mad at a tweet like that. I'll beat the out you. He continued.
Damaris
But anytime somebody tries to set up a fade with him.
Julian
Yeah, no, he doesn't sign the contract.
Mal
I don't think these talking about fade.
Julian
Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody fading. When you say, I'm putting your mama in a backwood and I'm smoking on your. What? You will fucking die saying that to certain people.
Mal
This isn't about boxing.
Julian
This is not. This ain't. This ain't. You could say you want to fight and sign a boxing petition if that's what you want to do, but when you say you rolling somebody's mother in a backwood and you smoking on somebody's mother, that's deceased, bro. You can't. It ain't no fucking sign no boxing petition. That's. It's just. You don't play. You don't play with certain shit. Like, Soulja Boy is not a little kid. He's a grown man. You don't play with shit like that. That's something you do not play with. You do not play with shit like that. And somebody. Whoever's in this corner, I mean, you know, I don't know who these dudes be having around them a rap, but you can't play with shit like that. You can't. You cannot play with people's families and their loved ones passing away. You cannot play with that. There's certain things you do not play with.
Damaris
I mean, I don't know if this is just like the. A corny, mature way to look at it. Is it worth crashing out over Soulja Boy? Who does this all day?
Julian
Depends on who you're talking to. Depends on who you're talking to.
Damaris
Metro and 21, Savage.
Julian
I don't know those gentlemen personally, but listen.
Damaris
No, I'm not.
Julian
Would I be surprised. Would I be surprised if I open the timeline?
Damaris
We're gonna end. We're gonna end it all because it's Soulja Boy, bro.
Julian
I'm just saying it depends on who you talking to, bro. You do. I. I don't. I. I don't play with shit like that because I don't want to find out who I'M talking to. That's why I don't play with shit like that.
Damaris
Of course it's corny what Soulja Boy is doing. I'm saying to stop your run in feeding your family, because Soulja Boy decided to go on Twitter one day.
Rory
But it would. Nah, it would never. But it would never happen like that. It would be like, we've had the conversations before these people who are around who are eager to prove themselves to the artist. Like, I'm loyal to you. I'm loyal to you. Let me get this nigga. It'd be them people.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
That do things like that.
Mal
Yeah. I think you're inviting all of Slaughter gang into the fold now, too.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
I don't think 21's gonna go pull the trigger.
Damaris
No, that's not what I'm saying either. But having anything attached to you in the height of rico, like, yeah, for some tweets, just let Soulja Boy fucking be an idiot in the corner by himself.
Julian
Listen, man, you know your words and things like that. You gotta be careful with that type of shit is all I'm saying. Be careful what you say and who you say it to, because everybody is not playing the same game you playing. Everybody's not trolling. Everybody's not looking for clout. Everybody's not looking for attention. Some people really love their loved ones, and they're not going to let anybody play with that. So you take from that what you take from it.
Damaris
I'm speaking as someone that is trying to become a reformed idiot. I've said on this podcast I need to keep myself out of certain situations because I'll make the wrong decision and lose it all over some. I shouldn't have lost it.
Julian
Yeah. 100.
Damaris
I'm stupid. I. I would not make the right decision in the moment. My emotions get the best of me a lot. If I see someone, I'll make the wrong decision. And I'm saying I could never imagine sitting down in a cell because Soulja Boy tweeted me. That's you as someone.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
That would make the wrong decision. Trying to realize and put things in perspective where I don't want my emotions to get the best of me. That'd be a tough one. I feel good for, like, the first year in prison. Second year, like, what am I doing here, bro? Soldier boy.
Julian
I'm just saying that's you speaking for you speaking for your feelings and how you would handle yourself.
Damaris
Listen, I almost killed a babysitter. I'm not above anyone.
Julian
Yeah, but some people. Some people just Don't. Some people don't handle things the way you would, is all I'm saying. That's all.
Damaris
Yeah, no, I handle things.
Julian
Some people are not where you are. Some people are not where you are.
Damaris
I'm not there. I'm trying to convince myself.
Julian
No, you're there, you're there, you're there. But some people, they're not. And some people are there and they don't mind getting out of there for certain situations. Some people are very calm and very cool and collected and laid back until certain things are pushed. And then they're like, all right. All this.
Damaris
So glad this isn't a carry state.
Mal
Speaking of calm, cool, collected, I saw. I was out with some friends on Saturday and I saw two A list celebrities in the West Village.
Julian
How do you know they're A list?
Mal
One was Jon Hamm.
Rory
Who.
Julian
Who the is John Ham?
Damaris
You know John Ham?
Julian
Come on. I don't. We're not gonna tell me who. I know who the is. Jon Hamm.
Mal
You know who the John Hamm is?
Julian
Oh, that's my. Yeah, I know John.
Mal
He's the man.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
So he's all John Ham. And then maybe three, four minutes later, they weren't together separate occasions. Because you mentioned killing people. Jon Ham. Yes. He's A list. I saw Alec Baldwin.
Julian
That is an A list.
Mal
There's an A list.
Damaris
Did you play out on bail?
Mal
No, I. I made the low hanging fruit joke of waiting to get up to go to the bathroom because he was on the same corner. I was like, I'll wait, he'll shoot me. It was really. It was much better executed and it was.
Damaris
I actually give you more credit than I thought there. That was awful.
Mal
Yeah. Thank you.
Damaris
I feel like you would have come up with a wittier.
Mal
It was better in the moment. I don't remember what I said, but yeah, star studded week in New York is beautiful out.
Julian
John Hamm is 53.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
How old did you think he was?
Julian
I thought he was older than that.
Mal
You know, he used to be a teacher. He was a acting teacher and then I think got scouted and then landed Mad Men. Changed his life.
Julian
Yeah, I like him. He's a good actor.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
We gotta stop with the A list.
Julian
You don't think John's a lister?
Damaris
I think B list is a huge compliment.
Mal
You're insane.
Rory
I think B list is a huge. To say your compliment.
Damaris
A B list celebrity is insane. You're Jon Hamm. A list.
Rory
Because when I think A list, I think Tom Cruise. I think I Think people who, like, everyone knows their name, even in like Tokyo, people who don't speak English, they know these people's names. That's what I think A list is.
Mal
Well, speaking of Tom Cruise, Jon Hamm was in Top Gun.
Julian
He was. He got a point.
Damaris
Was he the star?
Mal
He was like the star.
Julian
He got a point. Yeah, obviously.
Mal
Tom Cruise is the face of the fucking franchise.
Rory
Supporting cast. He's not the second lead. That doesn't exist. He was the.
Mal
There are. There are movies that have two leads.
Julian
Well, he was in the town.
Damaris
He was not the second lead.
Mal
Arguing a different point. Yeah, obviously. That's a Tom Cruise based movie.
Damaris
Peach.
Mal
He's an A list actor.
Julian
I agree.
Mal
Thank you. Yeah, we're not doing that.
Julian
I mean, it doesn't say much that the white guy agree with you. Like, that's his Denzel.
Mal
A list as shit.
Julian
He's like, yeah, but John Hamm is. That could be p. Just Denzel. I don't know. You know, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how he attached Peaches to the town. You know what I mean?
Damaris
Like, so you. You put Jon Hamm and Brad Pitt in the same.
Mal
No.
Rory
Okay.
Damaris
Okay. So thank you for proving my point. He. B list is not. I'm not insulting him. Yeah, B list is insane.
Rory
Z list.
Julian
How many followers does he have?
Damaris
You're on the list.
Julian
That's how you fix it. How many followers is he at? Like, you go right to that.
Damaris
Do we think Johnny Depp and it's.
Mal
Just a bunch of fan pages and.
Damaris
John Hammer on the same level?
Mal
All right, fine.
Damaris
George Clooney and John.
Mal
Alec Baldwin's A list, right? That was one.
Rory
Okay, don't. Rory. Alec Baldwin is a list. Stop.
Damaris
Just because of Pearl Harbor. But he wasn't even the lead.
Rory
Stop worry.
Mal
I saw this guy too. I had lunch next to this guy. I didn't think he was worth naming.
Rory
Oh my God, I love him.
Mal
We as at a Rin Tintin.
Rory
Oh, I love.
Mal
He was right next to us with a beautiful girl that he was eating one.
Julian
Yeah. How did you feel?
Mal
I. I saw he's one of those guys because he's in like a million projects and he has one of those faces where like. I don't know where I know him, but I know him and I remember him. He did this show on Netflix called Dead to Me that I really enjoyed and that's where I know him from, but he's in damn near everything. He's one of those guys.
Rory
James Marsden. Have you guys Ever seen Dead to me.
Mal
Really good show you got.
Rory
I think, Rory, I think you'd really like it. Mall. It might be entertaining to you.
Damaris
What network is it on?
Mal
Netflix.
Damaris
It's on Netflix.
Rory
It's really. It's really good. First season especially, is really, really good.
Damaris
Alec Baldwin is also not an A list actor.
Mal
You're tripping. That's hate.
Damaris
You're saying so. So everyone says De Niro, Al Pacino, Alec Baldwin. You guys just think that B list is an issue.
Julian
Do you believe that you can be an A lister at one point? Yeah, I think Alec bowl was. Was an A list in the 90s for sure.
Damaris
He was just doing an independent in the desert, funded by himself and shot someone. Yeah, but it's not a lister.
Rory
Yeah, and it took over every single news.
Damaris
I'm not.
Rory
Because he's Alec Baldwin.
Damaris
Jon Hamm could shoot someone. It's gonna be.
Rory
No, no, it would not be as. Stop.
Damaris
Yeah, you think if Jon Hamm shot someone on set, it wouldn't be everywhere.
Rory
It would be a big deal, but would not be as big as the Alec Baldwin case. Rory. No, it would not. Alec Baldwin is an A list actor. Stop it. It's okay. Just because he's not as big as a Johnny Depp doesn't mean that he's not A list. He's still A list. There's levels to A list.
Mal
There are levels to A list. That was.
Julian
Yeah, it's called B list.
Damaris
Yeah, B list. You guys are proving my point.
Mal
Just. Let's just forget acting. Just do celebrity. There's only one Kim Kardashian, but there's a million other.
Damaris
Like, she has, like, seven sisters. What are you talking about?
Mal
True. There's only seven Kardashians.
Julian
Yeah, exactly.
Damaris
No, but, like, obviously, Rob is the B list.
Mal
Their reach. Is Rob A list? No, not even, like, residually. You know how, like, Giannis got his brother into the league even though he's trash?
Julian
I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know if we're doing that. Rob. That's. That's tough because he's. I think the fact that obviously he's a Kardashian, that's a lot of weight. That's a lot.
Damaris
He's, like, the only true Kardashian.
Julian
Yeah, he's true to the name. He's holding it down, like. Yeah, he. He didn't change his stripes at all.
Damaris
And he birthed the only Kardashian, like, child. Right, True.
Mal
He's holding on the name. That's Right.
Julian
So it's.
Mal
Well, Caitlyn. Well, no, it's Jenner.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Never mind.
Rory
Yeah. So Black China has the only true Kardashian child.
Mal
That's sick. Oh, she's so cute.
Damaris
Black China's the illest on earth.
Rory
Yeah, she's acting now.
Damaris
She's been acting for.
Julian
She's been acting her entire life.
Damaris
She was acting at stadium when I saw her in 2010.
Julian
Every day of her life has been a.
Mal
How many kids do they have together? One daughter.
Rory
Yep. Dream.
Mal
Damn. So that means this is literally the end of the Kardashian era.
Rory
Yeah, because she's a girl.
Mal
They're. They're cooked. This kid has one choice.
Rory
But see, that's why I fully believe in, like, I'm having my kids having my last name.
Mal
You can hyphenate it.
Rory
Yeah, it's gonna do that. But I want my kids to have my last name because the only. My dad was the only boy, and he had one boy, and he also had one boy who's gay. So that's the end. Like, there was one.
Damaris
One kid in my junior high class that had a hyphenated name, and he used to have to get two Scantrons. That shit used to make me laugh. Couldn't fit the whole thing with the bubbles. Like, half his name would get cut off.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Like, why you do that to a kid?
Julian
Why you did that to that kid, man? Just give him one last name.
Rory
See, so. Well, y'all are men, so obviously y'all think that it should be Yalls last name. Would you have been upset if Kia wanted to hyphenate Amara's last name?
Damaris
I probably wouldn't have cared because, like, I don't know. Who cares?
Julian
Yeah, look at the.
Damaris
We care about, like.
Rory
No, but people. People.
Julian
My people can't.
Mal
We donated her last name once you got married.
Rory
Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to do that. But some people think that that's disrespectful to your husband for you not to just take his last name and give your kids his last name. People are serious about that.
Mal
The kids are different because there's also middle names. Like, my middle name is my mom's mom's maiden name, like, last name, and Kendall's is her dad. So, like, she got rights to both of our middle names, but our last name is just, you know, it's. There's no hyphen. It's just straight up.
Rory
But the last name is the one that carries on, though. So, like, your kids will have your last name.
Mal
Yeah, but I don't know. I put weight on the middle name. All my socials is my middle name. That's like all by design.
Damaris
But then I'll be up.
Julian
Your socials is by design. You designed it.
Mal
It was something. It was supposed to be for some anonymity and then it doesn't fucking matter. Anonymity podcast every day.
Julian
But then.
Damaris
Then I'll be up in heaven in 150 years and see my great, great grandkid be just a piece of. And be like, damn, we should have just hyphenated the name. Go. Go by Kia's last name.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Like you just ruined it.
Julian
How the kid turns out.
Damaris
Yeah. Like we're putting a lot of stake into our legacy after we're gone.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
We have no control. Maybe I don't even really want my name attached to some of this shit. Yeah, yeah.
Julian
Like if your kid turned out to be a piece of shit. I look right at the mother like, that's just. That's your kid.
Rory
Really?
Julian
But if it turns out to be a great successful, like, that's my boy.
Rory
Ah.
Julian
That's how I go.
Damaris
And yeah, like.
Julian
Like if my son. That I don't have yet. If my son was to turn out to be like a. Not speaking of a crackhead. I failed as a father, obviously. But that would still be like, yo, look. Look at your son out there smoking crack again. I'm right to her. Write to her.
Mal
My parents do.
Rory
But didn't you have people that did drugs in your family? Yeah, so I run in a family.
Julian
So that's maybe drugs running everybody. Family.
Rory
All right, I'm sorry. I was just saying. But like, that's. That's your.
Julian
Everybody's.
Rory
That's your boy saying.
Damaris
Saying crack is hereditary. It's fucking hilarious. Come on.
Mal
You know, she said that's the clay way.
Julian
It was at one point, for sure. Absolutely.
Damaris
No, that's. That's.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Because I even like joke with my pops. We have one of my cousins is very much like Facebook QAnon. Like, we're a little worried that one day we're going to turn the news on and like a Walmart will be shot up, like in the name of some. And I said at the end of.
Julian
The conversation was going to shoot up a Walmart.
Damaris
Like, I don't have real evidence to go to the FBI. But like, you know, you know, when people start doing certain political statements on Facebook, euthanize them. It's like breadcrumbs to mass shootings. Like, you can just see the signs. And I said to my dad at the end of the conversation, like, feral's his last name.
Mal
And then they're going to come to you and be like, did you see the signs? You're gonna be like, what? No. And then we're just gonna send him this clip.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
What would you like me to do? I don't even have a face.
Mal
Shoot him. You're the good guy with a gun. Isn't that why we have guns for the good guy to use?
Julian
The guys are supposed to use.
Mal
You got to get ahead.
Rory
So what does he, like, post that makes you think he might shoot up a school?
Damaris
Just like Qanon, Like. And also, like people. People that I grew up with. All of a sudden, they never supported the troops. Like, they were never pro police.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Damaris
They never collected guns. You grew up in Chicago. What? I know. I get it. But collecting guns, the way rednecks do it.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Like, what are we doing here? You lived in St. Louis and Chicago, and now you're a redneck. You're wearing the Confederate flag. You're from Illinois.
Julian
This is your cousin. Your cousin wears the Confederate flag.
Damaris
He's. He's went. He bought into that whole Trump all the way to the right shit.
Julian
Got you.
Rory
He thinks that white people are the superior race, even though you guys are Irish.
Damaris
I mean. I mean.
Rory
And you don't even count.
Damaris
I thought that went without saying. He didn't need to put that on Facebook. I mean, that was.
Mal
That's obvious.
Damaris
You guys don't clip this.
Rory
You can't stand in the sun, but you're the superior race.
Julian
Being racist and you can't be outside at high noon is hilarious. How you racist? And you can't even be outside when the sun is the highest.
Mal
Get the fuck out of here.
Rory
High noon is. Are you old as fuck?
Julian
Think about it. It's hot as shit outside, and they gotta go inside, and then they come back out and reconvene the meeting, like. Yeah. So like we were saying, shut your ass up. You allergic to the sun?
Mal
Well, in the Victorian era, that was a sign of wealth in a kept woman was the fairness of her skin. The paler the better, because it means she never needed to go anywhere.
Rory
Are you Victorian?
Mal
No, I just fucking went to school.
Julian
The Paleo the better. Nobody likes a pale bitch.
Mal
Well, it used to be a flex, like Nicole Kidman skin tone like that. Almost damn near translucent white skin. Milkmaid was like, insanely sought after for a very long time. That's why she gets casted for all those roles.
Damaris
I mean, to your point of us not being able.
Mal
She's a fantastic astro.
Damaris
Withstand the elements of the.
Mal
Look how white she is.
Damaris
Of the planet that we live on.
Julian
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Damaris
With a lot of my Nation of Islam friends. They may have a point with Yakub. I think they created white people.
Julian
You think y'all are created.
Damaris
Yes.
Rory
Yeah. Definitely created players.
Damaris
The we can't handle the sun.
Mal
That's allergies.
Julian
Hey, hey, hey. I have allergies. Cut grass will take me out of here, Right? Yeah.
Rory
Being allergic to the earth kind of stuff, too.
Julian
I'm not allergic to the Earth. I'm just allergic to the fresh cut grass.
Mal
Grass taking you out is hilarious. That's why you're in the Bronx. There's no grass in New York.
Julian
There's a lot of grass. Yankee Stadium, buddy, come check us out.
Mal
Yankee Stadium.
Damaris
It's a pretty short right field. It's not a lot of grass there.
Mal
It's all dirt.
Damaris
I think the least amount of grass in MLB history.
Julian
It's called Yankee Stadium. That's funny.
Damaris
So when you go. So, like, when you go to Van Cortland park, you just start breaking out in hives.
Julian
They don't cut the grass in Van Cortland. You've never seen them cut the grass in Van Cortlandt.
Damaris
You've seen one long.
Julian
You've never seen nobody cut the grass in Van Cortlandt. Never.
Damaris
The rose that never grew.
Julian
They just let the horses eat the grass. That's it. They let the horses just raise. That's called graze.
Mal
Yeah, it's grazing.
Julian
Grazing, right. Yeah, yeah.
Damaris
Or they just, you know, let all the West Indians play cricket. Oh, yeah.
Julian
That'll take the grass up for sure. Hell, yeah.
Damaris
Anyways, if my cousin does shoot up any Walmart, I'm not responsible.
Mal
My bad.
Damaris
We're not that close.
Julian
You've got mail. Do we have voicemails?
Mal
We do. Keeping it hip hop with this one. Oh, well, it's relationship hip hop.
Rory
What's up, y'all? Okay, so real fast question. Say you're dating somebody, right? And it's serious. Like, you really love them, you want to get married, all that other. Right. But they already told you, like, okay, I fucked this rapper or. Or whoever, right? But he makes slaps, like, undeniable slaps. And y'all getting ready. Y'all going through and doing y'all wedding playlist. And like, no, the person keep coming up. The singer, the rapper, whoever. Like, the person keep coming up and you're like, bro, we have to have these songs played at our reception. Is like, no. Is the person that your significant other smash allowed to be played at your wedding? Because, I mean, slaps are slaps, but, like, at the same time, are you.
Damaris
Like, hold my joke there?
Rory
I don't know.
Julian
I'll take it for you. You want to get slaps? Slaps and slap. No. Yeah, you. Slaps is slaps. I'm glad you said that. No, we not playing the songs of. No. You fucked at my wedding. Are you kidding me?
Mal
Probably Drake.
Rory
Or maybe we could play him and I can't sing.
Julian
We not playing that nigga's voice in my wedding. Turn this off.
Mal
But he's popular.
Julian
I don't give a fuck who turn.
Damaris
It off in which music there is in the world.
Rory
So if it's Drake, we will be.
Julian
In this party in the wind chimes and white noise before we turn that on. I'm not playing. Yeah, I'm not playing. No. That my girl at my wedding. Are you kidding me? Where's your. Where's your pride?
Mal
There's a line, though, because. Assume it's Drake. I'm saying, like, there's a line. You're gonna.
Julian
We not mad.
Damaris
Weddings that didn't play Drake, and they were fine.
Mal
No, you didn't.
Julian
Yes.
Damaris
Oh, I would say 99.9 of the weddings I've been to didn't play.
Rory
Well, who's a wedding rapper anyway?
Mal
Passion fruit goes off at a wedding wale.
Rory
Damn. We can't even play the matrimony. Damn.
Julian
That's what. That's where it stops. And turn that shit off.
Damaris
90S R B with matrimony. What if she Usher now? You really.
Mal
Oh, you're cooked.
Damaris
I would say Usher would be more of a problem than Drake for a wedding. You can't play Usher at a wedding.
Rory
Well, she said rapper, so I'm trying to keep it to rappers.
Mal
She said rapper. Singer. She did say. Could it be Chris Brown?
Rory
No.
Damaris
Why did that.
Julian
My wedding will be fine without Chris playing like this. Why is this like. Oh, no, we can't play Chris, man, Turn that off. I'm not playing no music from nobody. That my girl at our wedding. You're crazy. No, turn that off.
Rory
I agree, sis.
Damaris
I.
Rory
If he don't. If he don't make. Just have him make the list. I wouldn't put none of the songs on there. But if he put one of the songs on there, just don't sing.
Damaris
I'm taking a mall ism on this one. You don't respect Your husband?
Rory
Yeah. No.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
The fact that you're even thinking about this or adding that means you do not respect.
Julian
Yeah, she playing. She laughing on the voicemail. And that ain't funny. That ain't fun. Why is she laughing? Why she called here laughing like that? That ain't funny. She said. Well, she doesn't respect him.
Mal
Say you want to get married. And like.
Julian
Yeah, like, she don't even know what married. And what's that? After I say, will you marry me? It ain't. And yeah. Yes and no. Are you my wife?
Damaris
Like, the only asterisk might be if she somebody from Jagged Edge, because then it's tough. Not playing let's Get Married at a wedding is. I'm not playing maybe the Run DMC remix.
Julian
I'm not playing no artist. That my girl at our wedding. You're crazy.
Damaris
We're not listening to it ever again. Yeah, the wedding. No, I'm talking about if I. Mary.
Julian
J. Blige, turn that shit off.
Mal
Nah, but if she did it, she licks some. That's fine.
Damaris
Yeah, that's fine.
Julian
Oh, if you did. Oh, turn that up.
Damaris
And. And it actually might be.
Julian
Matter of fact, tell Mary, pull up, like, actually, what she's doing next might.
Damaris
Be, like, a good omen. Good luck charm, too, because Mary's the only divorce in history where the man won.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
So you might want to play that at your wedding, like, for good luck as the man.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
That you could win the settlement.
Julian
Yeah. If you. Mary. If my girl Mary. Cool.
Damaris
Why are we putting this on marriage?
Julian
I'm just saying, if she did, you know, turn that up. Ask Mary. She want to come through. But if you one of these rappers. Nah, we're not.
Damaris
It's. I mean, I guess it's obviously way different if it's your girl, because I've definitely played music around women that I knew. I was Eskimo brothers with certain artists, but I didn't really care.
Julian
You asked. You. You went and put it on.
Damaris
I've played, like, I've done a auxiliary chord set and played music.
Mal
Yeah, it's. Rory has a playlist with all those gentlemen.
Damaris
Yo, the Eskimo brothers playlist would be crazy.
Rory
Your shit would go crazy.
Damaris
I could play the playlist.
Julian
Probably be top three in the world.
Damaris
I could play this recent beat playlist.
Rory
Okay, y'all make one.
Damaris
Sure.
Rory
We won't let my players. Oh, my God.
Mal
I got on Patreon.
Julian
I got some on there.
Rory
That would be a good.
Mal
That's a good Ram radio.
Rory
That's a Good. RIM Radio.
Mal
I'll throw some names in the middle.
Julian
That's like saying, no, we won't say.
Rory
Which one of y'all.
Julian
Yeah, but the artist is on there. I'm not doing that. No, because the artists. The artists don't know that we're Eskimo brothers.
Rory
It's Patreon.
Damaris
Patreon kind of gay.
Julian
What does that mean?
Mal
They won't see it.
Julian
It's Patreon. What does that mean?
Rory
If they see it, they're fans.
Damaris
Y'all also know how, like, small this industry is. We would just make a playlist of our favorite songs. Like everybody's.
Mal
Ooh, all right, Exactly.
Rory
That's what I'm saying. So nobody will really be able to tell.
Julian
Could you wife a girl that you was Eskimo brothers with? Like, could you make that, like, your wife?
Damaris
What do you mean?
Julian
Like, if there's, like, an artist that, like, you with. Yeah. And then your fiance or your girlfriend had an affair, a fling with them. Like, would you and Kia fuck Nas?
Rory
He changed your life. He changed your life. And her.
Mal
Nah.
Damaris
Then Nas would be a pedophile.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Julian
When did he her that?
Damaris
That's what I'm saying.
Julian
When? Because it might not be pedophilia. It might be just cheating. Don't ever talk about that. Never want to have that conversation. A pedophile. She a grown woman.
Damaris
I don't know. I've only been in that situation with people that, like, I was talking to, but didn't particularly care that I was Eskimo brothers with people. Like, we weren't in a relationship. All right, whatever. It's my turn.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
That's all that it was.
Julian
That's all it is. It's my turn. Cool.
Damaris
I don't know. That would be a really weird situation.
Julian
That's tough. That's tough because girls wouldn't marry a. That one a girl. Just a regular random girl that they know. But you that get out.
Damaris
But I would have, like, questions, though, too, because, like, if you would say Nas, like, I you Nas. Like, how? I don't know.
Rory
Hold on, hold on. What?
Julian
No, no.
Damaris
Judging by, like, the age difference, you, like, why. What situation were you in if you went and fuck Lil Baby? Like, I get it.
Julian
You know? What situation? She was out being fast. She was out being fast one night.
Damaris
Where did she run into? She was at. Sweet chick for the afties.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
Sick afties.
Damaris
And first of all, I wasn't saying. I know Nas is a heartthrob. I think he's him.
Rory
I was about to say, I don't.
Damaris
Really trust a chick that doesn't find Nas.
Julian
You called Nas a heartthrob to the.
Damaris
Women when I was growing up. Yeah.
Julian
I thought you was like, just now called him a heartthrob.
Mal
No.
Damaris
He did. No. Right now. Yeah. No.
Julian
All right, currently.
Damaris
What's today's date? Yeah, he's still throbbing.
Rory
My heart is throbbing coochie, too.
Julian
I. I'm just saying I ain't need that information, but it's all good.
Damaris
I don't. I wish I had a better answer here. I'm not quite sure how it would feel like in that situation, because I'm never not gonna play Nas.
Julian
But it's crazy to know that your girl.
Damaris
He doesn't have to play at the wedding. I'm not gonna play purple at the wedding.
Julian
Yeah, but it's crazy to know that your girl slept with a dude and you purposely, like, you make it a point to go put his music on. It's like, no, that's.
Damaris
I mean, that's weird. Now you're a cook.
Julian
Yeah, that's just like. I don't know what you. What game you playing. Cause. But, yeah, to answer the young lady's question, no, you can't play that music at your wedding.
Damaris
Well, same question to you.
Rory
Unless he puts it on the playlist. If he don't put it on the playlist, then don't.
Julian
What do he put on the playlist? Because he don't know.
Mal
I was gonna say he must know.
Rory
No, she said he knows.
Mal
Okay. I was gonna say based on her tone.
Julian
And if he puts it on the playlist. Come on.
Mal
This sounds like a point of contention. Like, this comes up maybe. I would assume this comes up a lot when they go out together and they DJs playing music. Yeah, you got this again, like she.
Julian
Said, he got slaps.
Damaris
All right, well, I'll say this.
Julian
You only know one person more slaps than the Beatles.
Damaris
So what's worse? Do you judge your girl if she's out here.
Julian
Artists that don't have slap that couldn't.
Damaris
Be on the wedding playlist, because now it's like you hoeing for nothing.
Julian
You who?
Damaris
Because if you have to live in a situation that the girl you're wearing artists and none of his would even make the top.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Now I'm looking at you like, what?
Julian
Yeah, like, what's up?
Damaris
What are we doing?
Julian
What you was going through.
Rory
Yeah, if Kia Logic. I don't know.
Julian
Damn. Why would logic.
Damaris
She has a type. Because.
Rory
White boys barely black yeah, I'm not almost.
Damaris
I'm not black at all.
Rory
Almost Black.
Julian
Almost Black. That should be the name of your next album.
Damaris
But I'm not almost black.
Julian
Yeah, almost.
Rory
The Almost Black album is funny as.
Julian
But. But you have a daughter that.
Damaris
All my lineage is white.
Julian
Oh, okay.
Mal
Nah. But you're like almost no. That's why the almost no.
Julian
I got almost hit different.
Damaris
Got my 23andMe back. And the only almost was your almost Jewish.
Julian
Oh, yeah. Damn.
Mal
Good one to have.
Rory
Damn.
Damaris
97 Irish, European, and then there was 3% Jewish and not. And not the original Jews.
Julian
Yeah, your girl. Fucking rappers that can't make a dope playlist is kind of like, damn.
Rory
But some rappers just aren't good for playlists.
Mal
I was gonna say.
Rory
But, like, they still are. They're still talented. They just haven't broke through yet.
Mal
Like, you're not gonna put, like, Benny the Butcher on a wedding playlist.
Julian
But you fucking a girl, you fucking an artist that didn't break through yet is crazy.
Mal
No, we're talking about Rory said no.
Damaris
I think it's worse if he kind of broke through. Cause if he never broke through, that's just the body. That's just her past. If he, like, kind of made it to me, that's even worse. Yeah, like people. Oh, yeah. I remember that dude. He had like, that one record.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Oh, you that guy.
Julian
Nasty Time.
Mal
But what she at least at one.
Damaris
Point, Benny, allegedly, according to music, was a successful drug dealer. Just a cool guy from around the way. That's cool. You got that in your past. Yeah.
Julian
When did you.
Mal
Benny, I was gonna say, did you the guy when the song came out and he was at his peak? Or did you him like, years after he plateaued?
Julian
You asked the hardest what's worse?
Mal
Yeah, probably him when he's on his down.
Rory
Yeah, you can't Sage the Gemini now.
Julian
Yo, that's. I ain't gonna lie.
Damaris
That name drop was crazy.
Julian
Sage the Gemini.
Damaris
And no disrespect to Sage because he has some joints. I thought he was kind of underrated. All right, well, him now, what would that say?
Rory
He's gorgeous. But you can't. Sage's Gemini now. You had to him when Red Dose dropped.
Damaris
I mean, what's worse? Makonin just on that one Tuesday.
Rory
If you Makona, you will makon. Even if he wasn't the type of. That Makon is. He was.
Damaris
Yeah, dude.
Rory
Okay, dudes gay.
Damaris
He said he started this gay.
Julian
Yeah, we not. Yeah, he started this gay is what he said.
Rory
I Didn't know.
Julian
Yeah, he's the first gay guy.
Damaris
Well, answer the question that you asked me.
Julian
What?
Damaris
Because I'm conflicted. I don't. I wouldn't know how to go about that.
Julian
What was the question?
Damaris
Could you wife the chick that your favorite artist?
Julian
My favorite artist? No. Nah.
Rory
Well, what are your favorite artists that you aren't friends with?
Damaris
I was gonna say it's weird for you because you're friends with all of.
Julian
It. Depends.
Damaris
What if she fucked J Rue the Damager?
Julian
That's sick.
Damaris
That's crazy.
Julian
Where did y'all meet? I got more questions. Like, it's just.
Damaris
That was my point with Nas and Keela. Age difference here is crazy.
Julian
Yeah. Where did y'all meet at? Where did y'all align? Like, that's what I need to know. Like, where you be hanging out at? But I don't know, man. That's always a tough situation because it's just gonna be so many awkward times. Like, if it's a big artist and where chilling in, their music comes on.
Rory
Would you rather her not If. As long as he's not your friend, would you rather her just not tell you?
Julian
No, tell me. I want to know. You ain't got to tell me every guy you slept with, but I only want a big artist that you slept with. Like, yes, I think I should. I should know that, like, if I sleep with a fucking. A big actress, I should tell my girl, like, yo, you know, me and her. Me and her dated.
Damaris
Like, wait, but what. I would only want to know if I'm put in a situation where I have to know if I'm in a room with somebody like that. That's where I'm at with that ocean. You don't need to tell me unless it's going to affect what's currently happening. Yeah, like, I need to know certain. Just so I know how to move. Like, it is what it is. It's your past. If I'm not gonna end up in a room with J Rue the Damager.
Julian
Don'T tell me I don't know about that. Or like, hell, row, you throwing some sick names out there, man.
Mal
Hell relative.
Damaris
But why would you want to know if you're not in a compromising situation or have to interact with somebody, don't tell me it's not going to change. 2. I also don't want to now have to think about this every time I hear someone's music. Like, just don't tell me unless I need to know. I'm cool.
Mal
But we've had that discussion, though, that a lot of dudes like to know that they look at that like a stat.
Julian
Wait, what?
Damaris
Like, guys don't bleep this peach. That's the gayest ever.
Mal
We.
Julian
But we.
Mal
It's not.
Damaris
If your girl a bunch of artists and you look at that as a stat, you are the weirdest human being.
Julian
But that's what. That's. That's the norm now.
Mal
That's what I'm saying.
Julian
That's the normal.
Mal
Yo, she used to run around with me. Yeah, that's the first thing they say about the girls.
Julian
First thing they say now is like, yo, that's so and so's ex girl. I'm like, it sound like you want to taste homie.
Mal
Like, ew, he do and did he.
Julian
That's crazy. Like, so. No, I don't want to know like that, but I feel like if you my girl, and I don't think you.
Damaris
Want to know like that.
Julian
Yeah, I don't.
Damaris
I wouldn't do this podcast with you.
Julian
Yeah. I don't know. But if it's like, you my girl, it's like, you know, we just know each other. It's. Yo, I dated this person I dated. We just having those conversations just day to day. Like, it's like, word. Cause I might just think that that's funny that you fucked one of my favorite rappers.
Rory
You ain't gonna think that's funny.
Julian
I might start giving. Depending on who it is. I might. I might start laughing like, yo, where did you meet him at? Like, how did. Like, so it could be a fun. It's not necessarily like, oh, you a hoe. Like, it ain't gotta go there. But it's like, like, were y'all dating? Like, but what if your favorite rapper treated her like, just like a little.
Damaris
But outside of from what I know your favorite rappers, I think Ross is probably the only one you're not cool with. If she fucked HOV or Drake, that's an issue because those are friends.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
It would just leave Ross, right? Those only three rappers you like, that's.
Julian
The only three rappers I like is J. Drake. That's crazy. Nah, I just. I don't know. I would wanna. I would wa to know, though. Just like I said, it's just. Just having information and that has a whole another conversation added to it. Like, yo, like, where was you at in your life when you was running around?
Damaris
Okay, what?
Julian
Dating this guy?
Damaris
What if you found out your girl was that one white chick in Copenhagen that Kendrick?
Julian
That's who I ended up Wife. My luck ain't that bad. Oh, that one. One girl from Copenhagen. No, that. My luck is not that bad. That would never happen to me. No.
Mal
Do you think you only hit one girl in Copenhagen?
Julian
Me?
Mal
Kendrick.
Damaris
No, I don't.
Rory
We know the girls that you really like. Drake voice.
Julian
There's some girls in Copenhagen, too.
Mal
Copenhagen got some bad girls.
Julian
Yeah, we ain't going.
Mal
That's my speed.
Julian
I don't even want to sound like we. Well, yeah, that's right. Up.
Rory
Pale is the pure driven snow.
Mal
Not that pale. They throw down, though.
Damaris
Yakub special right there.
Mal
Opening people.
Damaris
Two pieces of steel made. Made. Your type.
Julian
They can't come outside in the sun. You can't date a girl that can't go outside in the sun. Come on. Y'all can't even go on vacation.
Damaris
That's true.
Rory
Kia be taking Rory on vacation. Rory can't go out.
Damaris
I don't.
Rory
Five o'clock.
Julian
That's sick.
Rory
That's.
Damaris
Yeah. Stay under the Roy.
Mal
Sit on the beach with socks.
Damaris
Thank God I got my. My. My white road dog. Amara can't either.
Julian
Yeah, so you got to just stay inside with your daughter, like.
Damaris
Yeah, okay.
Julian
I get it.
Damaris
I mean, what are you gonna do?
Mal
McConnen dropped an album four days ago.
Damaris
Probably good.
Mal
It's called.
Damaris
He makes good Ozemic, too.
Mal
Is he on Ozempic? I don't know. Kind of looks like a gay Zach Fox.
Damaris
It's a good comparison.
Mal
I like.
Julian
What?
Mal
Conan.
Julian
No, you don't.
Mal
I don't listen to music like he makes good music.
Damaris
I feel like that's what Julian would look like if he shaved his beard.
Rory
No, that might be you.
Mal
£5 more than that. A little puffy.
Rory
Your face is chunky. You just have a beard to hide your face.
Mal
Your face is not chunky.
Rory
Okay. I don't know.
Julian
Do we have another voicemail?
Mal
I could. Yeah, we could do another one, sure.
Damaris
You're not wiping the chick that Ross.
Julian
What's up? Rory?
Damaris
You're not.
Mal
Wait.
Damaris
Sometimes on this podcast, I think about things that happened 10 minutes ago because there's no way Maul would allow that wife regret that.
Julian
Ross. Yeah. Probably not the one that wrapped her.
Mal
Legs around them all.
Rory
Think he looked better than Ross.
Julian
So that ain't why.
Rory
That's why he was like.
Julian
That's not why.
Rory
Too bad of a. That's your last ill. No. You don't think you better. You bet you think you better than Ross.
Damaris
So you ain't gonna.
Julian
No, I don't. I never walked around thought never had that thought a day in my life, I would just be like, yo, words, you fuck Rick. Like, Rick.
Rory
Now he Rick because I fucked him. He was just Ross now he fucked him.
Damaris
He was at highlight room looking at the section like, oh, I'm. I'm better than Rick.
Julian
That's crazy to think that I even think I walk around with those thoughts in my head. Never.
Rory
I definitely. Y'all. So y'all sitting there telling me y'all never looked at y'all bitches, ex niggas. Like, I definitely look better than that nigga. Y'all definitely have. Well, Rory not nigga, but I look better than that man.
Mal
Than that gentleman.
Julian
I mean, you know, if you're more attractive than somebody, I think, you know, that that's just a natural thing. I'm looking at you like.
Damaris
But I'm giving women credit here. I think that works with women. Because men are physical creatures. Like, we just look at beauty first. Women will an ugly dude because he's charming, has some money, makes her laugh, whatever. You can't really compare looks when it. Women don't always go after what they find attractive.
Rory
No, but y'all. I think that that first thing I.
Damaris
Mind, like, women can do that with our exes because, like, that's our first language.
Julian
Is.
Damaris
Is she bad? Women's is more like, who. Who is he and what does he do?
Julian
So, AKA how much money does he make?
Damaris
Yes.
Julian
And how much.
Rory
And y'all definitely have looked at somebody. Like, I definitely make more money than a. I mean.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Yeah. And trust me, sometimes I failed miserably. Like, damn.
Rory
Didn't beat that he was the brokey.
Damaris
Oh, not the brokey. Just. I'm not that.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
I mean, it happens.
Damaris
Yeah. I don't have a max NBA contract.
Julian
But for men, it's different, though, because.
Mal
Trying to hate on an NBA player.
Julian
Yeah, that was some hate right there. Yeah.
Mal
All right.
Damaris
I'm hating on myself.
Mal
Even Chenzo more Like, he ain't.
Rory
I mean, Rory, like, he ain't really six, eight. He look like he like, six, four.
Mal
Yeah, he like a hard six. Six in them shoes.
Julian
Yo, Europe.
Mal
A hard six.
Julian
Six, a hard success.
Damaris
Oh, he's soft. He's six.
Julian
He's a soft seven, though, man. Jesus Christ.
Damaris
I've definitely run through that portion of it. Like, all right, I can lose the money, but guess what?
Rory
I'm sure I'm funnier ill whole time that hilarious word.
Mal
And he done.
Julian
I finally watched that. The rest of that Tom Brady rose. That was good.
Damaris
Yeah, that was really funny.
Julian
That was. That was definitely a great rose.
Mal
Oh, Kevin Hart got inducted to the Mark Twain Award.
Julian
Yep.
Mal
I watched that. It was good. A lot of comedians pulled up, showed out for that. Nick Cannon. Yeah.
Julian
It's a good look.
Mal
It was.
Damaris
You said a lot of comedians pulled up in the first one you landed on.
Mal
No, because he spent, like, the first two.
Damaris
Was Chappelle there?
Mal
Yeah, Chappelle was.
Damaris
So you landed on Nick first.
Mal
Yeah, because.
Rory
Because he had a point.
Mal
Because Nick did this thing where he kept saying, like, all these other famous comedians were here and he was like, bringing. But it was all a bit. It was all a gag. And Nick gave Kevin one of his first big looks.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
While now, for sure. Which is crazy.
Damaris
We talked about that with D.C. young, fly Nick. Nick is a comedy legend as far as who he's put on first.
Mal
Yeah. Lil Dicky spoke and then did a song.
Rory
He still makes music.
Mal
He did the same. The song. They have a Memory together. Remember that song? Spend them on and save that money. Whatever. They have a memory with that. So he did that. Chris Rock spoke. Chelsea Handler spoke. Trying to remember who else. It was good. It was like, you know, JB Smooth, the whole plastic Cupboys. It was good. Check it out.
Julian
Shout out to Kevin Hart on that. Before we go any further.
Damaris
For sure.
Julian
Oh, 100%. Before we go any further. Rest in peace to Corey Williams, Homicide. New York City basketball legend. Yeah. Bronx legend. He passed away over the weekend or last week. He passed away after a battle with cancer. Good dude. Solid individual. Always had good energy. Every time we saw each other again. Street ball legend. Just a sad story, A tragic story to lose. To lose Corey, as young as he was, to such a deadly, deadly disease. So prayers and condolences to his family and rest in peace to a solid, solid individual in a. In a. NYC basketball legend. Corey Homicide Williams.
Damaris
I was actually kind of confused why they didn't have Bill Burr at the Tom. Tom Brady Roast, like you would think. Austin, like.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
He's one of the biggest comics.
Julian
Bill probably was like, I have to get my Belichick my craft jokes off. You kidding me? Yeah. I have to.
Damaris
Yeah. Because I. I was shocked. I was like, he must have been busy. There's no way they didn't call him for that.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Was he at the Kevin Hart thing? No, they came up together.
Mal
He didn't. He wasn't there.
Damaris
Interesting. He's been turned.
Julian
Like, Bill might be on the outside of the boys club.
Mal
No, no. Seinfeld spoke, too. That was another one. He was there.
Damaris
Did he Say how comedy's dead and we can't do it anyhow.
Julian
Nobody can do it like him.
Mal
He leveraged the whole angle of, like, I'm only here. He said, people in entertainment only do things for one of two reasons. Either they owe someone a favor, or they're doing the favor. And he goes, I'll let you figure out which one I'm. Which one it is. And then.
Julian
That's funny.
Mal
He had just kept alluding to how he was doing Kevin a favor. Yeah, it was good.
Damaris
He's been on a press run because of that Netflix movie Uncrustable.
Mal
He's doing it. Yeah. It's the story behind the Pop Tart.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
I want to watch it probably tonight, actually. It looks interesting. The reviews aren't that great. Unfrosted. It's the story about. They say it's like the cold war of the food industry. How the two food titans at the time, Post and Kellogg's, were rivals, and they were both going for the licensing or the to own the rights to what ultimately became the Pop Tart.
Damaris
Yeah, I want to see it.
Julian
Look at the beef that be going. This is beefing over who gets to make the Pop Tart.
Mal
I mean, think about it.
Rory
I feel like that's a good beef to have.
Mal
How lucrative this. This product was.
Julian
I get it. No, I definitely get it.
Mal
But the. The cast is stacked. I mean, Seinfeld's name behind it. He's not only directing it, he starred in it. So that threw out. That brought everybody out of the woodwork.
Damaris
Once I saw that the Game Boy ended the Cold War, I was like, yeah, these products are pretty important. Yeah, I do want to see this. I'm gonna have to.
Mal
Oh, John Ham's in it.
Damaris
I'm sure he's not the lead.
Rory
A list and James Marsden.
Mal
Ah, both my guys.
Julian
That's not true. Okay.
Damaris
We launched Peter Dinklage might be higher than John Hamilton.
Mal
Stop.
Rory
No, he is no crazy.
Mal
How's he higher? He's like 2ft tall.
Damaris
That one was, too. That. That's your Alec Baldwin shooting joke. You're better than that.
Mal
Bill Burr's in this too.
Damaris
Yeah. Doesn't he play Kennedy?
Mal
Oh, I don't know.
Damaris
I think he plays jfk. Well, that's why I can't watch. I have to sneak off to watch this because I'm in a pro Palestine house, and I tried to click this.
Mal
Amy Schumer could suck a dick. But I'm still gonna watch.
Damaris
That's why I wasn't allowed to watch it. Over the weekend because Amy Schumer's in it and our house doesn't play that.
Rory
She's ugly.
Damaris
I'm gonna sneak off and watch it.
Mal
I think she has a disease disorder. It made her face all puffy.
Damaris
Hugh Grant might be higher than Alibama.
Rory
Hugh Grant is higher than Alec. No, no, the Alec Baldwin I know.
Damaris
I'm joking. No, Hugh Grant's up there, though. Is there any young. Like, who's the A list for young people?
Mal
Timothy Chalamet.
Damaris
Okay.
Rory
Zendaya.
Mal
Zendaya is big. Yeah.
Rory
Sydney Sweeney has gotten up there, but.
Damaris
Like, the same way we talk about the big rap and we don't know who the next legends are. I feel like that's similar in Hollywood too.
Mal
I think acting's in good hands.
Rory
Acting's in pretty good hands.
Julian
Yeah, acting is.
Mal
Even if you want to do a little older, like, what's Julia Roberts daughter's name? Emma Roberts.
Rory
Yes.
Mal
Like, she's a star. I think she's, you know, been around as a kid that was grown up in this shit. Austin Butler is looked at as like one of these guys now.
Rory
Tom Holland, obviously, because of. He's Spider Man.
Mal
Emma Stone, she's huge. Jennifer Lawrence.
Julian
Yo. Wasn't. Wasn't they and Tom Holland dating?
Mal
They are.
Julian
They're still together?
Damaris
Yes.
Julian
Okay.
Rory
I wouldn't be surprised if they're married. Like, behind closed.
Mal
I think they bought a home together not too long ago.
Julian
That's dope.
Damaris
It's cute.
Julian
All right, well, I thought we had another voicemail. Clearly we took a hard left and went down the wrong path, so.
Damaris
Because. Because I don't think you'd wife the girl that Ross. That's all.
Julian
I probably. You're probably right. You probably right. That's. That's a safe bet. Shout out to Childish Gambino. Y'all told me he dropped the album today, so.
Mal
Good.
Julian
Well, last night or today?
Damaris
Yeah, last night at midnight. Oh, on Sunday evening.
Julian
Atavista.
Mal
Yeah, it's.
Julian
I gotta check that out. I With y'all.
Mal
Like a more finished version of that March 15th one that he put out a while ago. Yeah, I'm already three listens in. I woke up, went to the gym and played it twice there and then one was once more on the way here. It's so good.
Damaris
Did you guys watch the video with Casey Frey?
Mal
Casey Fry, whatever that guy's name is? I love him.
Damaris
I don't know that the Young nudie song was what he led with. Yeah, it was a good video.
Julian
I. With Danny Glover, man.
Damaris
Danny Glover is B list. Probably. Ooh, Danny Glover's probably C list.
Mal
Who is B list? Who do we establish as a B list person? Because we haven't named a single B list.
Julian
I said Danny, Donald Glover.
Damaris
I'm sorry. That's why I said I'm like, Danny.
Julian
No, Donald Glover. I'm sorry. Yeah. I fuck with Childish, man. I think he's. He's one of the more talented artists. He reminds me a lot of Jamie Foxx.
Damaris
Yeah, he's had that comparison for a long time.
Julian
Yeah, his talent level is like that. I think that he can. He's one of those guys that. I think that if he sees something, he can probably emulate it and do it. Like, he can probably do anything that he. He sets out to do, so.
Damaris
But he announced the world tour. Are we getting another. Because he promised two albums, right?
Mal
Yeah. The next one's coming in the summer.
Damaris
And when does the tour start?
Mal
I believe in August.
Damaris
Okay.
Mal
Double check.
Damaris
So we'll probably get that other album right before that. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. Clear the hard drive. I'm gonna re. Listen to this album because you said that it's updated.
Mal
I really like it.
Damaris
I mean, I loved the version five years ago that he put on a website and then took off. But I mean, listen, always here for Childish. Came in on music. Ghostface Killer. Put out an album.
Julian
Shout out to a Conway. Slant Face Killer.
Damaris
Yes, Conway put out one.
Rory
Chief Keef put out his. Go check him out. Even if you're not a big Chief Keef fan, just go support. Because I'm so happy that Chief Keef is still here with us and we need to give him his flowers.
Julian
So is that. Is that. Is that festival happening in Chicago Lyrical?
Mal
Well, it has happened.
Julian
And is he going to.
Mal
That's the real question.
Julian
Yeah, that's all I'm focused on. Like, I need to know if Chief Keef is really going back to Chicago and gonna hit a stage and perform.
Mal
That's gonna be.
Rory
You gonna be there?
Julian
No.
Damaris
I hope there's a live stream that would be safely enough.
Julian
Stream. I watch, but I'm not going. Fuck no. But I just think that that's. That's incredible for Chief Keef to be going back to Chicago and performing.
Damaris
I listened to some of Keef's album. Tierra Whack Went Crazy feature wise. It was cool. The first quick listen that I. That I gave. And as much as me and this gentleman have. Have Static, I enjoyed the interview that they did. It's cool to just hear Chief Keef in a good space.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
For everything that he went through. So positive Friday in music. I feel like.
Julian
Shout out to Yay Ali. He dropped a private suite five, I believe. Is that yes, Number five, like last week or maybe two weeks ago. Really dope project. Really good. Listen. Some real good music on there. Shout out to my boy, Yay Ali. Some good features on there.
Damaris
Shout out to the noobs.
Julian
Private suite 5 available now. Go stream that Slant Face Killer. Conway available now. Go stream that Childish Gambino. Atavista. I gotta stream it.
Rory
Y'all still playing PND4P4.
Julian
Shout out to Party Next Door. Good project. Good album.
Mal
You guys get around the Gunners yet?
Julian
Gun. I didn't hear Gunners this week.
Mal
I like it.
Julian
I'm seeing a lot of people said.
Mal
They really long pause.
Julian
What about the the Future mixtape? Did you hear that one?
Damaris
Did it drop?
Mal
I guess it was just a single. It was just him and T Grizzly did a single together.
Julian
Okay. Okay. I gotta check the gun to join out. I'm hearing a lot of people say some joints on there too. Shout out to go. Ghostface. What's the name of Ghostface Project?
Mal
Oh, oh, he has a record with Kanye on that, right?
Damaris
He's a record with Kanye, Nas az. Everyone's on this.
Julian
No, no, no. Face. Is that the name of it?
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Triple Check. We'll wrap it up anyways. You guys can just enjoy us looking up certain things.
Julian
Some good. It's some good music out of me.
Damaris
Set the tone. Guns N Roses.
Mal
Set the Tone.
Julian
Set the Tone was the name of the album. Set the tone. Ghostface Killer. I think no Face is the name of the record on there. I think.
Damaris
Yes. No Faces with Kanye West.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
What album from this year has the most replay value for you guys? What do you find yourself Keep going back to? For me, it's Tyler's album. I think it's the easiest, most consistent listen. I really enjoy it. What do you guys see yourself going back to this year?
Julian
Damn. I'm listening to Bryson Tiller's album a lot.
Rory
Same.
Julian
Bryson Tiller's album is dope. I like the Yalee joint. It's a quick listen. I think it's only like 30 minutes. It's like 10 tracks. Outside of that, I'm listening to Hardy's album. It's a lot of R B out right now. It looks like R B owns the first half. The first quarter.
Rory
If all these rap beefs didn't happen, R B will. Yeah, first half.
Damaris
I would say Bryson is definitely up There I finally got to, like, live with that project, and I keep going back to it.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
Tierra Wack's album I probably listened to the most and then probably Sinette Harness came out like two weeks ago, but it hasn't stayed out of rotation.
Julian
When I was in Florida, was it last week or the week before? Biggs played the St. John album for me.
Damaris
Okay.
Julian
Incredible. I think a lot of his fans. His sound is definitely a lot bigger than it's been in the past, but it's still Saint. I think his fan. Cause his fans have been kind of upset that he made them wait so long, but it's been a while. It's well worth the wait. Album sounds incredible, and I'm excited for people to hear that whenever they decide to drop it. It's dropping soon, though, this year, definitely. But album sounds great. So a lot of good music coming. Lot of good music that's out already. Looking forward to the summer vibes that Drake alluded to on his IG story, seeing what we get from that. Looking forward to the Kendrick album, seeing what he does coming out of this whole situation, the music that he has on there. But I'm also looking forward to, you know, after this, coming out of this whole beef. Like I said before, like, how does music sound? Because some of our favorites are not in favor with each other anymore. They're not, you know, fans of each other anymore. We may still be fans, but I don't think they'll work together anymore. So it's gonna be interesting to hear the music that we get coming out of this whole Battle Feud era. Yeah, but it was fun. Outside of all the national choir shit and all the rabbit holes we had to kind of avoid and dive in and, you know, what's real, what's fake, what was stolen, what wasn't, what was planted, what's not. I just always go back to, how does the music sound? But it's gonna be interesting to hear what things sound like after this because a lot of our favorites, that era, I think, is over.
Damaris
Yeah. I'm just glad that Ice, Spice, and Riot are still working together.
Rory
Same. Oh, Megan dropped boa, by the way. Go check that out. Music videos. One of the dopest I've seen in a while, so.
Damaris
Oh, actually, look, I didn't mean that sarcastically. I.
Julian
You know what album I listened to over the weekend, I went back to. Actually, one of the songs came on. It was like on Shuffle. And then I played the album. I was like, I want to hear it again. Doja's Album is still dope.
Damaris
I gotta go back.
Julian
I gave it a lot of it sounds. It sounds really. It still sounds good.
Damaris
I didn't listen she dropped at all.
Rory
It has some really good. I told you that song with her and Tizo on there. Touch My Spirit.
Julian
So Doja might be the best female rapper right now. I think she is in regards female rap artists.
Rory
Artists. Rap artists. Okay. I would go with you. I would agree with you.
Julian
Like even her stage show, I'm still mad. I didn't see her perform. But like the clips I seen, like she's full out moving, dancing and still rapping on beat. You can still hear her like. So her performance is up there. Her production on her stage production is up there. Like Doja, she might be the best female. Nikki is still obviously Nikki. But Doja might be right there under Nikki.
Damaris
I mean, her boyfriend got a weird case though. Why is he around?
Julian
Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't. A lot of the shit that y'all be telling me, I hear from y'all. I don't. I didn't. I don't even know what you.
Damaris
I'll be on the timeline by accident. I see that her boyfriend is some like well known streamer that has some crazy case. I'm like, I would. I just thought that was like some white security guard next to.
Julian
Yeah, I don't.
Damaris
I didn't know that was her friend.
Julian
I'm still on that, man. I just listen to music, man. I don't know what people be having going on. But if he does have a nasty case, then, you know, Doja maybe shouldn't be with him. But it may just be.
Mal
Seems like her type.
Julian
Yeah. I don't know.
Damaris
Was it a national holiday when. Back when Baka got back on road. He was there.
Julian
We got to go back to Toronto at some point. So I mean, you know, get your off.
Damaris
I'm not getting anything off.
Julian
I'm going to get some. Some, you know, some maple. Some maple syrup from sewing out there.
Damaris
He said he wasn't. He said he was not nice.
Mal
We go to New Ho King, get the Kendrick.
Damaris
I'll take you Woohop down the street. Like.
Mal
Yeah, like, I mean.
Julian
Yeah, don't be that.
Mal
Well, we're spoiled. We're in New York.
Julian
Yeah.
Damaris
But either way, I don't need a blammy with crony. I'll just go get. I'll go to my favorite Haitian spot in the West End.
Mal
You don't want the Brody sauce.
Julian
Listen, man, this has been another wild fucking episode. I don't know what Julian is on today, but it's all good. We'll talk to you in a couple of days. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. New warrior now.
Podcast Summary: Episode 268 | Ebony & Scat of New Rory & MAL
Introduction
In Episode 268 of New Rory & MAL, hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, the hosts—Rory, Mal (Jamal), Damaris, and Julian—delve into the intricate world of rap beefs, focusing primarily on the high-profile feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. Alongside music critiques, the episode weaves in personal anecdotes, particularly Damaris's harrowing experience with her daughter's accidental injury while under a babysitter's care. The conversation is candid, humorous, and reflective, offering listeners both entertainment and insightful commentary on current events in the music industry.
The episode kicks off with a discussion about whether Meek Mill has a close connection to the Diddy family, potentially influencing his stance against 50 Cent.
The hosts shift focus to Ice Spice, critiquing her recent tracks and musical style. Damaris expresses disappointment with Spice's song "Give Me the Light," labeling it as "one of the worst songs I've heard."
Mal defends Ice Spice by mentioning her initial positive reception at a festival, despite the later negative reviews.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. The discussion centers around Kendrick's diss tracks—particularly "Not Like Us"—and their impact on both artists' careers.
The hosts debate whether the success of Kendrick's tracks is solely due to the beef with Drake or if the music itself holds intrinsic value.
The conversation transitions to how platforms like Twitter and Instagram amplify rap beefs, making them more pervasive and complex. Damaris voices fatigue over conspiracy theories and the blurring lines between fact and fiction in online discourse.
The hosts express concerns that social media not only fuels these feuds but also distorts their reality, making it challenging to discern truth from speculation.
Damaris shares a poignant personal story about her daughter, Amara, breaking her leg under the care of a new babysitter. The incident underscores the unpredictability and trust issues surrounding babysitting services.
The narrative highlights the emotional turmoil parents can face in similar situations, adding depth and relatability to the episode.
The hosts speculate about a possible rap battle between Rick Ross and Game, analyzing their respective strengths and fan bases. They discuss the implications of such a feud and its potential outcomes.
The conversation delves into the mechanics of rap beefs, emphasizing the importance of timely responses and the role of authenticity in diss tracks.
Shifting away from music, the hosts engage in a lighthearted debate about the distinctions between A-list and B-list celebrities. They reference actors like Jon Hamm and Alec Baldwin, discussing their statuses and public perceptions.
This segment offers a humorous respite from the intense discussions on rap beefs, showcasing the hosts' diverse interests and chemistry.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the state of the music industry, the nature of fame, and the personal dynamics that influence their perspectives. They touch upon upcoming album releases and express excitement for future episodes.
The episode concludes on a contemplative note, encouraging listeners to consider the complexities of fame, personal responsibility, and the ever-evolving landscape of music and social media.
Key Takeaways:
Authenticity Matters: The hosts emphasize that genuine diss tracks resonate more with audiences and have a lasting impact compared to those perceived as forced or inauthentic.
Social Media's Double-Edged Sword: While platforms like Twitter amplify rap feuds, they also contribute to misinformation and unnecessary speculation, complicating the dynamics between artists.
Personal Stories Enhance Relatability: Damaris's personal anecdote about her daughter's injury adds emotional depth to the episode, reminding listeners of the human aspects behind public personas.
The Evolving Nature of Celebrity: Discussions around A-list and B-list celebrities highlight how public perception and media influence can shape an individual's status in the entertainment industry.
Notable Quotes:
Damaris (19:27): "A broken leg."
Julian (26:01): "If it wasn't dissing, if it wasn't in the moment, if we didn't get that record out of the moment that it came out of, I don't think people would."
Damaris (35:23): "How the bully affected us, mafiosi Yemi met Sleepy."
Julian (55:25): "We gotta hear it."
This episode of New Rory & MAL offers a rich tapestry of discussions, blending music industry insights with personal narratives, all delivered with the hosts' signature humor and candidness. Whether you're a fan of rap beefs or keen on hearing heartfelt stories, Episode 268 provides a comprehensive and engaging listening experience.