Episode 275 | Wah Gwan Men’s Mental Health

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 275 | Wah Gwan Men’s Mental Health

Podcast Information:

• Title: New Rory & MAL
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
• Episode: Episode 275 | Wah Gwan Men’s Mental Health
• Release Date: June 7, 2024

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Tour Announcements and Introduction (00:00 - 01:17)

The episode kicks off with Rory and Mal enthusiastically announcing their ongoing tour schedule, highlighting dates and cities such as Philadelphia, Detroit, Chicago, London, Toronto, Atlanta, and New York. They tease live performances, guest appearances, and encourage listeners to purchase tickets through their website.

Notable Quote:

• Rory (00:00): “Tickets are available right now. Rory versus Mal. The campaign.”

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Opening Banter and Musical Snippets (01:17 - 03:30)

The hosts engage in playful banter, introducing snippets of songs and discussing whether certain sounds feature banjos or acoustic guitars. This light-hearted exchange sets the tone for the episode's blend of humor and serious topics.

Notable Quote:

• Mal (02:03): “It's a banjo. That's a 2024 acoustic.”
• Rory (02:10): “Just an acoustic guitar.”

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Discussion on Drake’s Music and Its Cultural Impact (03:30 - 12:00)

Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris delve into a conversation about Drake's recent musical endeavors, including a parody record that blends comedic elements with hip-hop. They analyze Drake's strategy of staying relevant through humor and parody following his battles with other artists like Kendrick Lamar. The hosts debate whether Drake's approach is effective or undermines his credibility in the hip-hop community.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory (05:12): “I'm not going to answer tomorrow's phone calls because, guys, I agree with Mal. This song is amazing.”
• Damaris (10:44): “It's not about him. It's about the methodology of what he's doing and why he's doing these types of songs.”

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Kendrick Lamar and Industry Dynamics (12:00 - 24:44)

The conversation shifts to Kendrick Lamar, discussing his influence and the anticipation surrounding his upcoming album. The hosts speculate on his potential collaborations and the expectations placed upon him following his recent battles. They also touch on the dynamics within the music industry, including label affiliations and artist support.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory (24:14): “I was the one that thought she went to MIT. I'm not Julian.”
• Mal (24:22): “If you follow DJ Head, then he has an album coming out.”

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Men’s Mental Health Awareness Month (24:44 - 51:17)

In a heartfelt segment, the hosts address Men’s Mental Health Awareness Month. Rory shares his personal struggles with suppressing emotions, leading to unresolved anger and frustration. Damaris introduces a debate highlighting how men often externalize their distress rather than seek help. The discussion emphasizes the societal pressures on men to appear strong and the detrimental effects of emotional suppression.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory (32:35): “I just explained how I suppress things, then two years later, take them out on people that don't deserve it.”
• Damaris (41:35): “We have to see who the end friends are. Right. So that's what I said.”

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Relationship Dynamics and Social Media Influence (51:17 - 84:35)

The hosts transition into discussing the complexities of modern relationships, particularly the impact of social media platforms like Facebook on trust and communication. They explore scenarios where lack of online connectivity leads to misunderstandings and accusations of infidelity. The conversation highlights the challenges of defining relationship boundaries in the digital age and the importance of clear communication.

Notable Quotes:

• Julian (70:02): “She likes to go through the girls I follow, and she sends me screenshots and asks me to explain.”
• Damaris (85:07): “We’re not in a committed relationship, so she didn’t cheat on me.”

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Coping Mechanisms and Personal Experiences (84:35 - 95:17)

Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris share their personal coping strategies for managing stress and emotional turmoil. Rory discusses taking himself on solo dates as a form of self-care, while Julian emphasizes physical activities like biking and exercising. The hosts reflect on the effectiveness of these methods and the importance of seeking help when needed.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory (33:15): “I took myself on a date to a French restaurant... I found out I'm not very interesting.”
• Julian (46:13): “I exercise, like, go on a bike ride, workout, play basketball. That’s my outlet.”

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Celebrity Culture and Its Effects on Society (95:17 - 114:45)

The discussion broadens to the influence of celebrity culture on societal norms and personal behavior. The hosts critique instances of celebrity scandals, such as Drake’s and Kanye West’s controversies, and their repercussions on fans and public perceptions. They explore how these high-profile events shape attitudes towards relationships, mental health, and personal accountability.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory (99:14): “She's a millionaire now. She made it from that tape.”
• Mal (113:55): “This behavior is entirely inconsistent with someone who claims to have been sexually harassed.”

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Community and Support Systems (114:45 - 135:00)

Emphasizing the importance of community, Rory and Mal discuss how having a supportive network can alleviate feelings of loneliness and mental distress. They advocate for open conversations about mental health and the need for societal change to support men in expressing their emotions without judgment.

Notable Quotes:

• Damaris (122:00): “Men are way worse with that. I can speak for myself fucking everybody.”
• Rory (130:17): “You can't say to that person, you cheated on me. No, I feel a way and I'm hurt because you're with someone else.”

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Closing Remarks and Tour Promotion (135:00 - End)

As the episode wraps up, Rory and Mal reiterate their tour dates, encouraging listeners to attend their shows. They briefly touch on upcoming music releases and cultural events, maintaining the episode's blend of humor and informative discussion.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory (96:28): “Tickets are available now. Newroariemall.com.”
• Mal (97:20): “Can't wait to see everybody at the campaign. We'll talk to y'all soon. Enjoy your weekend. Be safe.”

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Conclusion

Episode 275 of "New Rory & MAL" masterfully blends humor with serious discussions on men's mental health, the impact of social media on relationships, and the pervasive influence of celebrity culture. Through candid conversations and relatable anecdotes, the hosts shed light on the challenges men face in expressing emotions and seeking support. The episode concludes with a positive note, promoting their tour and encouraging listeners to engage with their content both live and online.

Overall Insights:

• The societal expectation for men to suppress emotions contributes to unresolved mental health issues.
• Clear communication and supportive communities are essential in addressing and alleviating these issues.
• The pervasive influence of social media complicates modern relationships, necessitating honest and open dialogues.
• Celebrity behavior significantly shapes public perceptions and personal attitudes toward various societal norms.

Closing Quote:

• Mal (97:23): “Having a great time. Can't wait to see everybody at the campaign. We'll talk to y'all soon. Enjoy your weekend. Be safe.”

Transcript

[Rory]

Mall. We are back on tour. Tickets are available right now. Rory versus Maul. The campaign. It's an election year and we are outside. What's our first city?

[Mal]

We're in Philadelphia, July 25. Then we're in Detroit, August 22, followed by Chicago, August 25, then London, September 11 and September 18. We're also in London.

[Rory]

Then we're in Toronto in October 17, Atlanta, November 22, and then we are back home for the holidays. New York, December 13th and 14th. We're doubling up in London and New York for a specific reason. The second dates, which would be London, September 18, New York, December 14. First time ever. My Karma is Beautiful presents Rory, Maul and friends.

[Mal]

Looking forward to this one.

[Rory]

Some live performances. We're still gonna pod? Yeah, that'll still happen.

[Mal]

Just have some guests.

[Rory]

We're adding some more to this. So tickets available now. Newroariemall.com New Worry and Mal.

[Mal]

Walk Wanda, Lila.

[Damaris]

No, I'm late cause there's bare traffic I just show my dog your grammy said he knows a man Keep singing the lyrics.

[Rory]

Date me if you like me Brought my crow hand to your bestie. It's too smoky these streets it's just.

[Damaris]

Too smoky in these streets. Y'all are embarrassing.

[Julian]

Looking sweet.

[Mal]

You're looking sweet. Oh, don't you be.

[Rory]

Is this being in. Is this in the episode? Are we allowed to use the song? What was the end of that?

[Damaris]

We're going to use it on audio.

[Mal]

I just show my dog your grand. He know someone that slapped it.

[Rory]

I'm Che.

[Mal]

See, you don't. The problem is you wake up on the wrong side of the bed all the time. That's why y need to hear banjos and guitars when y'all wake up.

[Rory]

That's a. You hear a banjo in that song?

[Mal]

It's a banjo. That's. It sounds like.

[Julian]

Not a banjo.

[Mal]

Not a banjo.

[Rory]

That's not a banjo.

[Julian]

Not a banjo like a banjo.

[Rory]

Just an acoustic guitar.

[Mal]

This is acoustic banjo. Banjo. It's a 2024 acoustic.

[Julian]

So you riding with that. That's your thing. This your song of the year.

[Mal]

Song of the year.

[Rory]

Before we get into that song, has everyone in this room showed their man's her gram and then he knew someone.

[Damaris]

That I done show Graham and he done and then. Excuse me, man. Her gr.

[Julian]

Sorry, what?

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no.

[Mal]

I'm about to say what type of.

[Julian]

It is June about to say what.

[Damaris]

Type of conversation I've showed my man's a someone's gram and he's beat before.

[Rory]

You show like your friend or. Or your man?

[Damaris]

No, my home. You. I done showed you grams, and you done beat. Yes.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, what, Rory?

[Mal]

What's it like up there in Aoria?

[Rory]

So, man, damn, you just aired out. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not defined by my past.

[Damaris]

How funny that is.

[Rory]

I'm a work in progress. My jersey's in the rafters.

[Mal]

None of us are done, but I'm.

[Rory]

Not proud of some of my stats.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean, I'm proud of all my stuff, but.

[Rory]

Yeah, there's been times when Damaris has showed me her gram and I've slashed.

[Mal]

Yeah, I've turned the ball over a.

[Rory]

Few times and she. She was a little cheesed.

[Mal]

Yeah, it happened.

[Damaris]

Mad cheese.

[Julian]

Have you ever. Have you ever hit a girl that like, not hit her, like, have you.

[Rory]

Ever reached out to take your time, restart it?

[Mal]

We have to be very specific now in 2024. You have to be very.

[Julian]

You know what's funny? No. This helps. This how pussy I am. My mind didn't even go to, like, hit, like, physical. My mind went to hit, like, hit her up. But I didn't mean. I didn't mean. Obviously I didn't mean physical, but I also didn't mean. I meant. Have you ever reached out to a girl and you were nervous to go one on one on a date, so you asked her to bring a friend for a double date? Because that's what Drake's doing here.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, he was very respectful and accommodating. He brought his CRO ham for her bestie. That's a nice guy.

[Mal]

If you apologize for him wearing a sheisty in the steakhouse. Like, he was like, yo, listen, it's too hot and he's too smoky in these streets. Like, he's not beat on.

[Julian]

He said, but you're looking sweet. Yeah, that's nice.

[Damaris]

Don't bring no. No shiesty around me.

[Mal]

Such poetic justice.

[Julian]

So the.

[Rory]

The second we finish apologizing for your man wearing a shiesty, instead of saying, yo, can you take that off for this double date? It's fucking crazy.

[Mal]

It's lit out here in the streets. They let him keep it on. You might have to up at any minute now.

[Rory]

And. All right, let's say in this scenario that the bestie ends up beating. What type of girl goes on a double date with her friend and meets a guy in a sheisty and fucks him?

[Mal]

And the wore sheisty and didn't wear a condom?

[Rory]

If it's so Smoky in the streets. Stay home.

[Mal]

Nah.

[Rory]

Is not worth it if you have to wear a shiesty mask at roof.

[Mal]

I done walk through plenty of project lobbies in my childhood. Scared to death. But I need to go upstairs and get that. I'm sorry. It happens. I understand this record, man. I get it.

[Julian]

So you guys like it? Guys, I just want to be. I want to be clear. You guys were. You're jamming it on the way in. Before we recorded this came out as soon as we finished recording last Thursday's episode. Shortly after you killed Grippies. And now all of a sudden, this is your favorite record? Rory's been this all day.

[Rory]

I heard about her last lap nights. They were geeked. Now I'm bent. Low key pause.

[Mal]

It's true.

[Rory]

You've never found out what she was doing at last lap or little sister.

[Mal]

Oh, Julian, that's when it's too late.

[Rory]

When you already like her and then you find out what those nights were like.

[Mal]

Or you walk in and see her, like, all in the corner with another dude that you know. Like, you don't know him, but y'all, like, see each other a lot.

[Rory]

Like, why do you know the staff at last lap? Why do you know the cook?

[Mal]

That's such a small environment.

[Julian]

Oh, and the line cook at last.

[Damaris]

All right, well, how do you know.

[Rory]

The guy that sweeps up when the lights come on?

[Damaris]

Don't do that.

[Julian]

I'm not making fun of them. I'm just saying that's an insane person to know they're in the kitchen.

[Damaris]

No, I'm saying don't make fun of the girls. Who? It's a small place. We know everybody.

[Mal]

They got the bar back.

[Rory]

Yeah, how you know the bar backs?

[Damaris]

Because he's arranging the.

[Mal]

Yeah, he's arranging this.

[Rory]

They can't even give you a drink. It's, like, illegal or something. How you even talk to him?

[Julian]

It doesn't have his liquor license.

[Mal]

It's illegal for the bar back to make you a drink. He can't make you.

[Rory]

Ever been at the bar when it's so packed and there's, like, one bartender and there's six bar backs? You're like, yo, can you just hand me a drink, please?

[Mal]

Yeah, like, it's right there.

[Damaris]

Well, they don't know what they're doing.

[Mal]

You can do the girls at Starless. That didn't stop them from getting a bust down apart.

[Rory]

You can carry. You could carry a 30 rack through the most narrow staircase I've ever seen, but you can't pour me a shot no, it's not.

[Julian]

It's not that. It's. They don't know how to use the. The. The POS system to ring it up. As in charge you. That's the problem.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not trying to.

[Julian]

They can obviously open a beer.

[Damaris]

I'm not trying to pay.

[Mal]

This is on the house.

[Rory]

Hey, this is on the last lap.

[Mal]

Yeah, this is the last lap. This is my last shot.

[Rory]

When she finds out about my last lap night, she's gonna be geeked. Yeah, I know the staff too well.

[Mal]

I can't. I can't say I like the record because they just gonna assume I was.

[Rory]

I was.

[Damaris]

You wouldn't like this record if nobody else made it.

[Julian]

That's a fact.

[Mal]

What you. Somebody else did make this record, though. What do you talk about it? Yeah, I mean, Wagon Baby D. What's it like up there in Albany? That's a. Just called your phone about the action.

[Julian]

Was a 315 number.

[Mal]

Like, I'm here in Albany.

[Rory]

See, I like that remix already.

[Mal]

See, you like the Baby D and Albany remix. Everybody likes that.

[Rory]

Yo, artists don't even give us third verses anymore. Like, they spoiled us with this song.

[Julian]

We're lucky.

[Mal]

Yeah, this is. This is.

[Rory]

We didn't deserve this.

[Mal]

This was such a treat.

[Rory]

I was scared to come in here because I feel like I've had to like, be the combative person with you when it comes to Drake stuff.

[Mal]

You don't have to.

[Rory]

I can't lie today. I think you fucking love this.

[Mal]

I think you get so many phone calls when people are like begging you to like me and you to like, battle. That's why we're going on tour. The campaign. Roy versus Ma. We'll be doing this all tour. That's what it is. People hitting you up like, yo nah, tell Maul. Yo nah, tell Maul he tripping. Tell Maul he bugging.

[Rory]

That's definitely happened.

[Mal]

Of course.

[Rory]

But I'm not going to answer tomorrow's phone calls because, guys, I agree with Maul. This song is amazing. It's one of the most beautiful trolls I've ever heard.

[Julian]

You should play this. This could be like a lullaby. You put Amara to sleep to.

[Mal]

That's exactly what this is.

[Rory]

She has heard. She has heard this 30 times.

[Julian]

Ms. Rachel.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Is this kid Toronto who is snow?

[Rory]

This is their dreams and nightmares.

[Mal]

This is their dreams and nightmares.

[Rory]

I'm sure people are thinking I'm. I'm trolling right now. Well, what I. I really do like this song. And I'm not Damaris Was trying to say I was a Quan. Sharian. What was the word?

[Julian]

Oh, my. Manchurian Candidate literally named our last episode the Contrarian Carry it.

[Rory]

I'm not being one of those. Yeah, just cuz everyone hates this. I'm not trying to be like, yo. But I like it. No, I really like the song. I've been singing it for the past two days.

[Julian]

I think it's smarter Drake to come back.

[Mal]

Well, do we all like the original?

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. Black fire, for sure.

[Mal]

So playing white. Why would a little bit of. With a little bit of, you know, drill sprinkled into it a little bit.

[Damaris]

Where's the drill?

[Julian]

There's no drill. Mall to the.

[Mal]

A little bit, man. It's a little Dr. Yeah.

[Rory]

You got 40 in his jeans.

[Mal]

Yeah, and she reaching for it shiesty on like. Come on, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, see, he had bars on that.

[Julian]

I think this is Smart by Drake.

[Rory]

Why?

[Julian]

Because he's still staying relevant and like.

[Rory]

Tarzan, he stays on the J.

[Mal]

Stay relevant. He said Drake is staying relevant.

[Julian]

No, I mean not relevant. You know, he's staying like, what's his.

[Rory]

What's his monthly listeners right now.

[Mal]

All right, we're not going to pretend.

[Julian]

Like he didn't just delete all those diss. Drake.

[Mal]

Drake is staying relevant, bro.

[Julian]

I'm saying it's smart of him to stay within the ecosystem of.

[Mal]

He's in the ecosystem.

[Julian]

He's always. Yes, obviously people are going to replay his old. That's what I'm saying. It's smart to inject new music into the space.

[Damaris]

The headlines. He's back in the headlines, but for this.

[Julian]

But with the comedic. This guy's a. A comedy.

[Mal]

Like, he was in the headlines last two weeks ago with Sexy Red and y'all laughed at him.

[Julian]

I'm g. I'm.

[Mal]

This is.

[Julian]

I'm trying to give him praise right now. I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying, like, it's smart of him to. To team up with these kind of artists because these aren't serious verses. He's not trying to bar you to death. This is a parody record. Like, it's smart. He's staying current. These people are laughing.

[Mal]

But didn't you just on him for doing the Sexy Red shit?

[Julian]

No, but I'm in. I think I did.

[Rory]

I'm objective.

[Julian]

No, on this podcast.

[Damaris]

I did. Y'all are missing. Yeah, y'all are missing Julian's point.

[Julian]

Can you say?

[Damaris]

Because it's not about him. Like, it's not about him liking the music. It's not about that. It's about the. The methodology of what he's doing and why he's doing these types of songs. It is smart. The same reason why we said it was smart for. Even though y'all hate Grippy, it was smart for jcole to come back with a Grippy. And not barring these.

[Rory]

Oh, God.

[Julian]

Oh, sorry, Wanda.

[Damaris]

Oh, Wand Delilah. Yeah, but Griffy is crazy.

[Mal]

It's a difference. It's a difference. You can't bow. You can't bow out of a. You can't say you lost sleep and bow out of a battle after you put out a record. And then the next time we hear you, you talking about what's her name? What's that line? Her name is. Her name is.

[Rory]

It took him a while.

[Mal]

Grippy.

[Rory]

He had to come up with it.

[Mal]

Get the.

[Rory]

He paused. I was like, he called me back.

[Julian]

Drake just deleted five songs.

[Mal]

How was that the same? I don't know.

[Julian]

Sounds like a white flag.

[Mal]

He didn't delete the songs. The songs. He deleted them from his Instagram. Not from.

[Julian]

Well, three of those were only on his Instagram. Okay, so they're gone.

[Damaris]

Long story short, this was the right avenue for Drake to come.

[Rory]

I'll land Julian's point. I shit on the sexy red thing. I hated it. I still hate it. But I get now his strategy is to be the joker. He's going full joker now. He's just going to be a villain. Like, I'm just going to play into everything Kendrick said about me. He's not going to come back with the real hip hop album that we want. He's not in that space. So that's not the next strategy. Just be the joker, be the villain, come back and just make a bunch of laughable bullshit that we can sing along to. Was that too harsh? I know it's your miss.

[Mal]

No, I mean, that's how you feel.

[Rory]

It's a good strategy to just be the joker. Just lean into the joke.

[Mal]

I just think that everything Drake does after the battle is now under a super microscope because he would have did this, I think, regardless of.

[Rory]

I think so, too.

[Mal]

Like, this is. This is what Drake does. He would have done this. Regard a sweeter man. This is just like Sweeter man.

[Julian]

No, that song is fire.

[Mal]

Some people think this song is fire.

[Julian]

No, I'm not. I'm. I'm not critiquing this song. I'm just more looking at how Drake's been moving. I think it's smart that he's doing. I really do. I think.

[Mal]

But I'm just saying, like, I. I just think everything is microscopic. Now. Drake post the battle because people want to kind of gauge where's his head at? What's he thinking? What's he. He would have done this song battle or not. This would have been a song that Drake would have done. He's done songs like this before. This is just the latest one, but it's coming off of the Kendrick and Drake battle. So everybody's like, oh, this is where he's at. This is where he's giving us. He's been doing shit like this. That's why I just laugh when people.

[Damaris]

Say shit on Kendrick's point.

[Mal]

Yeah, but he does all of this type of shit. He does this. He can give you a rap record with conduct on the beat. He can give you all types of shit. That's who Drake is like. But now everything is, oh, he's razzled. He don't even know what type of this is, the type of music he's making. Kendrick turned this nigga into Sesame Street. Like, all kind of shit I'm reading on.

[Rory]

I'm like, two things can be true.

[Mal]

No, that's not. He's been doing.

[Rory]

I think he's rattled, and I think he would just do this anyways.

[Mal]

Oh, please. Rattled at what?

[Rory]

Listen, anyway. Have you ever been 2,000km away from a girl? It's painful. I had to add that up on my phone. I had to figure out how far that was.

[Damaris]

How far is it, baby? How far is it?

[Rory]

I forgot. It's close to 2000 miles. They're similar.

[Mal]

2000 kilometers.

[Julian]

It's 12. A little over 1200 miles.

[Rory]

There you go. Same thing.

[Mal]

That's not close to 2,000 miles.

[Rory]

It's like Philly.

[Damaris]

That's not. Oh, my God.

[Mal]

Philly is 2, 000 miles from here.

[Rory]

No, it's like 200, right? You guys know I can't read or do math.

[Mal]

Probably like 100.

[Julian]

No, I thought it was last, like at least one.

[Damaris]

Like 170 over 150, maybe.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's not that far.

[Rory]

I mean, what do we expect the Internet to do when this record came out?

[Julian]

94 miles.

[Rory]

I think Drake is smart enough to know he was going to get killed for putting this song out and everyone was going to react to it poorly.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I mean, again, that's because of the whole. They expect. They want Drake to make bang bangs. They want everything Drake to say from now on to be gangster. Going at Kendrick Lamar music. That's what they want. And I'm just Laughing because I'm like, this is what he would have done anyway. This is the type of he does.

[Rory]

Who are the plain white tea guys? I apologize for being uncultured.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

Like they did the. The. Hey there, Delilah. This is their song.

[Rory]

Oh, the original guys. I actually never knew who the. I mean, I know the original, but I didn't know what the artist was.

[Julian]

So this was. They.

[Rory]

They thought that was a Beatles record.

[Julian]

This is their. Their reaction to it.

[Rory]

Here we go. Here we go.

[Julian]

He's like trying to get.

[Rory]

So.

[Julian]

So they go through it and he pretty much. They all think it's AI. They don't believe it's real.

[Rory]

It's the best AI though.

[Mal]

Didn't he?

[Julian]

No. Yeah, it's definitely Drake. But they. They. They don't think it's real. They said there's no way this is actually him always on the chain.

[Mal]

I. I don't. I. The reason why I think this is Cap, because that song would have had to get cleared. They heard this already.

[Julian]

They don't clear it. They're people that own the song clear.

[Mal]

But I mean, they would have heard it, though, before it came out.

[Julian]

Not necessarily.

[Rory]

Do you think they cleared it? It's on SoundCloud, but there's laws that you can get around with SoundCloud that you can't with DSPs.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I don't know if they cleared this.

[Mal]

I don't see why they wouldn't clear it.

[Rory]

If they cleared it, I think it would have been on DSPS for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah. It's not.

[Damaris]

They. He probably didn't reach out to have it cleared.

[Rory]

And I mean, like, what did they really take from the original?

[Mal]

Have you ever just.

[Rory]

Delilah? Of course. Yes. My dumbass thought it was a Beatles song.

[Julian]

No, it is on dsps. It's clear.

[Rory]

Is it really? Oh, then yeah, bro. They should have heard it then. Yeah.

[Mal]

Drake is getting.

[Rory]

I take it back.

[Mal]

Drake is getting records clear, bro. We don't have to. We don't have to. I don't have to question that. If Drake wants a record cleared, it's going to get cleared.

[Julian]

But even with that, even if they give it doesn't mean they necessarily heard the record before it came out. Universal could just be like, hey, have a Drake, Sam. Like, Drake's on this song. We need to clear this. They don't. I'm sure what didn't even.

[Mal]

The.

[Julian]

Okay. Didn't even come from them. It came from the people that own their publishing.

[Mal]

I. I get. Yes, I get that part on the business end. But if you think that the Plain White tees didn't hear what Drake did to their hey There Delilah record before we did, you're fucking crazy.

[Damaris]

They absolutely was that TMZ that was asking them.

[Rory]

I. I didn't see that. This is my first time seeing that clip.

[Julian]

No, these are just. They're. They're friends. They're just like whoever they're hanging out with in the room.

[Damaris]

Oh, okay. I'm like.

[Julian]

Like the lead singer says it's crazy that everybody is real. Like he's convinced that it's as fake.

[Mal]

I don't know what to think, man.

[Damaris]

Everything.

[Mal]

When I first heard it, I thought it was fake. I'm be. When I first heard it, I thought it was fake.

[Rory]

Yeah, I've. We've heard a lot of Drake. AI. This doesn't sound AI to me. That sounds like Drake.

[Mal]

Does it?

[Rory]

Flat out Drake. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Only Drake will come up with the idea that his homeboy is at Roof Chris with Shyon and I apologize.

[Mal]

You don't think AI could generate that thought?

[Julian]

Nah, no, no, that's.

[Damaris]

That's some original Drake ass thought.

[Mal]

That's because AI don't really be in them streets. It's too smoky.

[Julian]

What's it like in Mississauga?

[Rory]

Mississauga. And I know it's Sabrina.

[Mal]

Love Mississauga.

[Rory]

Brampton just lost my life and we going to Toronto. We're going to Toronto around the campaign, ironically, in October.

[Mal]

I'll see you on stage, buddy.

[Rory]

Do you think I could be your plus one to Drake's birthday when we're out there?

[Mal]

Yo, that was nasty. I didn't even know it was Drake's birthday.

[Rory]

Prime October, very own. And I think I can assume when his birthday is, but his whole is October.

[Mal]

Is it when we're out there?

[Rory]

Oh, I don't know.

[Julian]

I mean his birthday is the 27th.

[Rory]

I'm sure we'll bang some episodes.

[Julian]

Talks about it all the time.

[Mal]

Oh, y'all be remembering birthdays and like off the top, he.

[Julian]

It's literally his whole ethos. Is October spooky.

[Rory]

When's my birthday?

[Julian]

May 4th.

[Rory]

All right.

[Damaris]

Oh, you know, everybody knows Rory's birthday. September 26th.

[Julian]

I did not know that.

[Mal]

Thank you. God.

[Julian]

It's near my parents anniversary. That's cool.

[Mal]

Oh.

[Damaris]

PE is September 9th, right? Yeah.

[Julian]

Damn. You know the what's up with cuz?

[Mal]

All the want to do is know Rising moon and stars and that's all Baby Wagon Baby D. What's it like studying astrology?

[Julian]

I know Damaris is because it's Air Max Day.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right.

[Julian]

You know that's on Air Max Day.

[Damaris]

National Air Max Day.

[Rory]

I did not know that existed. I'm sorry.

[Mal]

I did not know I knew National Air Max Day existed. But to know that that's somebody's birthday is absolutely crazy.

[Julian]

Well, that's honestly how I remembered.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Me, Diana Ross and Ari Lennox all have the same birthday.

[Mal]

All right. See, I'm not gonna see y like.

[Damaris]

What we got in common. Like.

[Mal]

All right, that's what y got in. That's what's up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Me who?

[Damaris]

You, me, Ari Lennox and Diana Ross.

[Mal]

That's fire right there. It sound like the Supremes.

[Rory]

All right, all right, Never mind. Yo. What?

[Mal]

I didn't say nothing. I'm just.

[Julian]

That's so funny.

[Rory]

Listen, I'm sure I won't be invited to the embassy, so I guess I'll figure something to do that day in. In the city. Maybe I'll go to Mississauga while you're at the embassy.

[Mal]

Well, I'm at the embassy.

[Rory]

Yeah. Before our live show. I'm sure you'll be playing full court basketball or something with him.

[Julian]

Mall just tears an ACL the day before the show.

[Mal]

You know what I do before the show? I'm in my bed sleeping.

[Rory]

I'm sure there's a lot of rooms at that house.

[Julian]

Toronto's where I invited you guys to the sauna before. After the show. You guys didn't go with me.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was probably one of the more uncomfortable moments. Like I let a lot of.

[Mal]

Probably not a homosexual. That's why, like, I'm just not going to the sauna with a guy.

[Julian]

Great steam.

[Mal]

I'm cool. I don't want to catch steam with another man.

[Rory]

And then when no one replied, you, like, tried to sell it with a follow up text of like, oh, you can sweat out like everything from yesterday.

[Julian]

Yeah, we.

[Rory]

But like, no one replied because how.

[Julian]

Much tequila did we have that night before?

[Rory]

It was a lot.

[Julian]

Lot. It's a lot. It was an open bar. Tequila. We were banged up. Pause. So the next morning, went to the sauna. No. Extended the invite because I don't think he knew the amenities in that place were incredible.

[Mal]

No, they. They tell us the same upon check in, Julian. They let us know that all the.

[Rory]

I slept it off like a man and moved on with my day.

[Mal]

Yeah, I need some steam.

[Julian]

She was great. I gotta lift.

[Mal]

I need some steam.

[Rory]

Swallowed. They want to be swallowed. This is off the rails today.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

What else is going on? Because I don't Want to talk about Drake forever?

[Damaris]

Kendrick is popping out and showing.

[Mal]

He's doing what?

[Julian]

Yeah, I was gonna ask, is there a reason why we're not going to LA Mall? Are you avoiding LA on this tour trip?

[Rory]

DJ Head said he's not good.

[Mal]

Who? What?

[Rory]

DJ Head said you're not good.

[Mal]

Head top DJ has said I'm not.

[Rory]

Good with in la. We had to go. We went through uta, we had a date set. And then DJ Head stepped in and reached out to UTA and was like, yo, they not good.

[Mal]

Yo, y'all is crazy, man. I'm not good in LA. It's hilarious.

[Rory]

Punch said he'd be waiting at Terminal 3 for your arrival.

[Mal]

Bring some weed. Welcome me with some weed. If you go pull up.

[Rory]

Gosh, I wish I could just go against you on everything. Is this clout Chasey? Now I'm gonna sound like I'm really on Drake's side for everything. Was he ever doing a pop up? Ken and Friendship before this beef. Do you think that was ever on his schedule?

[Damaris]

He has an album coming out. Rory, you do things like that when you have an album coming out.

[Rory]

Just because you guys follow DJ Head doesn't mean he has an album coming out. Just because Daylight said yesterday, yo, it's crazy but apparently you follow everybody because.

[Damaris]

You name in their tweet.

[Julian]

I with dj.

[Rory]

He said I was good. He just said mall wasn't.

[Mal]

I'm not good in LA is.

[Damaris]

Who's your big dark skinned friend that was knocking people out?

[Mal]

I don't know nobody about nothing. I've never been to LA a day in my life.

[Rory]

That. That's her twin flame. I was trying to tell her that.

[Damaris]

Shut up.

[Rory]

He's your type.

[Damaris]

She's not. Whatever.

[Rory]

Anyway, that was your soulmate.

[Damaris]

What was his name? He was really sweet.

[Mal]

We're not saying it said I'm not good in la.

[Julian]

I'll still mad at that.

[Rory]

No one said that. Nobody said that. I'm lying right now.

[Mal]

I didn't talk to at the lies like that's because I seen people when we announced the live shows. It's like all know he can't come to la. I like what almost booked the flight last night for 24 hours.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you would like you would have hidden West Hollywood like you wouldn't have been.

[Julian]

They said we're not good into Detroit now because of the Eminem review.

[Mal]

Oh yeah.

[Julian]

Uno.

[Mal]

Oh no, N can't go to Detroit.

[Rory]

ICP gave me a pass.

[Mal]

Okay, that's what's up.

[Rory]

That's what's up? That's crazy.

[Julian]

Who do you think Kendrick's friends are? Who do you think he's gonna bring out besides Mustard and Baby Keem?

[Mal]

All his new friends, his newfound friends.

[Rory]

Oh, who are his newfound friends?

[Mal]

All these. That's gonna be at the show.

[Rory]

He sold out one of the most lucrative tours in history. He can bring people out.

[Mal]

Oh, no. Come on. Do you think that's what I think?

[Rory]

He has a bunch of newfound friends that are like, yeah, we like Kendrick now?

[Mal]

I'm not talking about. I'm talking about the artist.

[Rory]

Oh, who would. Who would that be? I mean, you don't fuck with nobody.

[Julian]

All of td.

[Mal]

Exactly. Now all of a sudden, it's a Metro. Uncle Ken and friends.

[Rory]

He did a joint album with Baby Keem like he does. He doesn't fuck with other rappers. He did a joint album with his little cousin and put Kodak on this.

[Mal]

You know, so we have to see who the end friends are. Right. So that's what I said. Newfound friends.

[Rory]

I think this is going to have something to do with the TDE anniversary. I don't know if it's gonna be completely surrounded with this Kendrick album that everyone is saying is coming.

[Mal]

When is this? June 19th.

[Julian]

Yeah, at the Forum.

[Mal]

I might go to that.

[Damaris]

I've never heard this podcast so quiet in my entire life.

[Rory]

You're not going to that.

[Mal]

I went to the Mr. Morale, didn't I?

[Julian]

That was before.

[Rory]

That was before.

[Mal]

Before what?

[Damaris]

Pre war.

[Julian]

Before super cut of everything said about Kendrick the last month.

[Rory]

That would be like me asking to be your plus one to go to the embassy.

[Mal]

Why?

[Rory]

Because I'm not. I'm not welcome.

[Mal]

I'm not welcome at a Kendrick Lamar show?

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Why? Because I didn't like. Roll it.

[Rory]

Roll the tape.

[Mal]

Because I didn't like a record.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's how these things work. Welcome to the music industry. You say one bad. You praise someone for 10 years. You say one bad word, you're not welcoming.

[Mal]

How many?

[Rory]

They kick me out of the Jack Harlow.

[Mal]

How many Drake records did I not like?

[Julian]

None.

[Rory]

I don't think you've ever disliked. You like Ratchet? Happy Birthday.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

We drove from LA to Vegas. You were saying it, though.

[Damaris]

You like Ratchet. Happy Birthday. Then you like all Drake songs.

[Julian]

That's a pnd.

[Mal]

He's lying.

[Rory]

First of all, what Drake songs? Don't you like it?

[Mal]

It was the record off of around the time that. What's the record with him?

[Rory]

And was this on Room for Improvement?

[Mal]

Search and Rescue. I hate that record.

[Rory]

Oh, yes.

[Julian]

That's on station with me. That song sucks.

[Mal]

Said that on this. Nobody remembers me saying I didn't like that.

[Rory]

Of course not.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

See, I forgot.

[Mal]

I remember which y'all remember. Which I want to remember.

[Rory]

Welcome to the music industry.

[Julian]

He spoke so negatively about Kendrick. Why would you want to go? That's my question.

[Mal]

Negatively about his records that came out. Whatever.

[Julian]

Like, why? Why?

[Mal]

I never. I never. On his discography. I never said I didn't like none of his album.

[Rory]

Okay, let's say I said he had.

[Mal]

One of the best live shows I've ever been to. Y'all forgot all of that?

[Damaris]

Well, actually, before the Beef even happened, the conversation that we were having when was like, don't want to hear from Kendrick or something.

[Rory]

Or.

[Damaris]

No, you said Rory was saying J. Cole is about to replace Kendrick in the big Three. And Ma. That was when Maul predicted it. Mark came. I was like, don't say that. Because if Kendrick dropped right now, all you is gonna be listening to it. Like, we all looking forward to Kendrick. Like, stop sleeping on Kendrick. Maul did say that before the beef. That's how I know you fake, though, because the moment he start arguing with your homegirl, then you want to put your hair in a ponytail. You see what I'm saying?

[Mal]

First of all, don't ever make no gay in the windows toward me. I don't know what that means. Secondly, that's not what happened.

[Julian]

I'll drink your home girl.

[Mal]

That's not what happened. That's not what happened. I said I didn't like the records. I didn't like to meet the Grams and the fucking. The not like us.

[Rory]

Everything Damaris is referring to before Push Ups, pre Push Ups. Life changed after Push Ups.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He put out two songs that I don't like.

[Rory]

And that's what that means.

[Mal]

I don't like Kendrick.

[Julian]

All right.

[Rory]

At the Forum. At the Forum, Legendary LA venue. You're in the crowd and Kendrick Lamar performs. Not Like Us. What are you doing?

[Mal]

Probably on my phone.

[Julian]

Turn around.

[Rory]

You're gonna protest?

[Mal]

No protest.

[Julian]

Take a knee.

[Mal]

Probably take a seat.

[Rory]

Yo, all kneeling for Not Like Us at the Forum is hilarious.

[Julian]

Meanwhile, LA got a whole earthquake. Everybody's stomping on beat.

[Damaris]

Yo, he said, take it.

[Rory]

What if the whole crowd points at you and say they're not like us?

[Julian]

They would.

[Damaris]

They literally would.

[Mal]

Great. Get into the next song.

[Rory]

I feel like Kendrick is gonna find you in the crowd to performance.

[Damaris]

Like when Beyonce says she ain't. No.

[Mal]

Just hurry up. Just hurry up and get that record over and get to the better songs. That's all.

[Rory]

Get to the better songs.

[Mal]

Yeah. He doesn't have better songs than that.

[Rory]

The day before Juneteenth at the Forum. Oh, Kendrick Lamar performing Not like us. Get to the better song. That's the song.

[Mal]

I'm black. Juneteenth means it's on.

[Julian]

It's. It's on. Juneteenth.

[Rory]

I don't see color.

[Damaris]

Oh, it is on Juneteenth.

[Julian]

It's on the date.

[Damaris]

That's a Wednesday. We all gotta record either.

[Rory]

He might perform not like us 15 times.

[Mal]

He should. Jesus.

[Rory]

The way. The way Kanye and Jay used to do the song that I won't say the title of when they used that 15 times in a show. I think that's what's gonna happen with this.

[Mal]

I hope not.

[Rory]

All of LA is going to sing a minor outside of the venue. Just the whole city in unison. And you're gonna be in the middle trying to light the blunt, pretending like that song's not playing.

[Mal]

No, I'm just gonna be doing what I would be doing. You've been to shows with me. You've been to Drake shows with me. What do I do?

[Rory]

Yeah, you just stare.

[Mal]

Exactly. Same should I do every show we've been to. Which. What show are we going to in Toronto?

[Damaris]

Daniel Caesar staring at the Daniel Caesar show is great. You ain't two steps sitting there listening.

[Mal]

To Two step to Daniel Caesar with.

[Rory]

Who we were really in the spirit of Pride Month.

[Mal]

That.

[Julian]

That night, Rory and I were singing together. It was great.

[Rory]

Six grown men together. Going to the Daniel Caesar show was wild. I loved it.

[Julian]

It was great.

[Mal]

I love that show. So you do it every show.

[Damaris]

You guys will beat the male loneliness epidemic because you guys have community.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Mal]

You're welcome.

[Rory]

Rory mentioned no, but then you. You shame us for hanging out with our friends and then call us gay when we like our friends more than you.

[Damaris]

I never shame you for hanging out with your friends. You.

[Rory]

It's not. We're talking in general now.

[Damaris]

Okay. I forgot to speak for all women. Okay, yeah, yeah, let me be misogynistic. Go.

[Rory]

Do you know what month it is besides Pride Month?

[Damaris]

It's Men's a mental health month. Yes, it is.

[Rory]

You just stopped yourself from laughing when you said that.

[Mal]

Yomi's laughing. What the. Is so funny. It's. It's men.

[Rory]

She couldn't get through the sentence without trying to laugh. Because nobody gives a yeah.

[Mal]

About men's mental health. Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.

[Julian]

The Joke is naming it that.

[Damaris]

No. How's your mental health?

[Mal]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. All that.

[Damaris]

How's your mental health? It's Men's Mental Health Month. How's your mental health?

[Mal]

Up.

[Damaris]

You up.

[Mal]

I'm up.

[Rory]

And get over it. What's. You're a man.

[Mal]

What's me up? I don't know. And I'm cool. I'm just joking. But it is Men's Mental Health Awareness Month, and, you know, prayers and Listen. No, you gotta send prayers and healing to any. Any man out there that may be dealing with mental health.

[Rory]

This is a real man right here. You asked him what was going on in his life about what was bothering him, and then he suppressed it. He buried it down and said, I'm cool. Shout out to the month.

[Julian]

Prayers.

[Rory]

That's a real man right there.

[Damaris]

And it is. That's a real man. Right? And then you wonder why.

[Rory]

Because society has forced us to do that.

[Damaris]

Who runs society?

[Rory]

Women?

[Julian]

Girls? Never. Beyonce said you're gay.

[Rory]

The vice president's a woman. What more do you guys want?

[Mal]

I'm sorry, I had to just get that.

[Julian]

With the same effect as like a toddler that sees something observationally and he goes, that's weird.

[Mal]

Yeah, you're gay. I just. It just dawned on me, Mother.

[Rory]

Ah.

[Mal]

Oh. The way.

[Rory]

The way toddlers will just. You're fat. Like, damn. What the.

[Mal]

I know, but you want me to do whatever.

[Julian]

I don't know. Rory mentioned earlier that all of LA would be harmonizing a minor. Did you guys happen to catch this weatherman again?

[Rory]

We got temperatures in the 90s, but it's going to feel hotter for several days. We get hit with the heat index.

[Julian]

Well over 100, but the mainstream.

[Mal]

Oh.

[Rory]

Already got some competition on hot days. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 plus 5. Hey, look at this. We've got temperatures going 90 plus for several days in a row. This is not a major cold front. Front.

[Julian]

Here we go.

[Rory]

In fact, a general rule this time of year is if it's June and we're talking about a cold front, it's probably a minor.

[Julian]

And as we look into getting that off in the weather is sick.

[Rory]

Does anyone realize that this song is.

[Julian]

About pedophilia saying a minor on. On temperature?

[Rory]

I didn't even. I thought it was crazy for them just having the beat in the background about a song with pedophilia on the news. He took it all the way to a minor.

[Damaris]

He hates his producers.

[Julian]

That's Houston, by the way. Mall.

[Mal]

Oh, is it?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, thanks. For the weather report in Houston. Julian. Appreciate that.

[Julian]

Welcome.

[Rory]

What's up with y'all today?

[Mal]

Who?

[Damaris]

Y'all all are wilding. I don't know. It's men's who cornflakes, but y'all are wild today.

[Rory]

I'm in a great mood.

[Mal]

Yeah. I listen to Guaguan Delilah all morning. Like, I can't be upset.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's why you're in such a silly mood.

[Rory]

I've accepted that. I know someone that slashed it. Like, I've made peace with it.

[Mal]

You cried when you found out who slapped it.

[Rory]

I wouldn't say cry, per se, but, like, you know, sometimes you get, like, a lump in your throat when you're trying to, like, pull.

[Mal]

Yeah. You liked her a lot.

[Rory]

Like, when you do that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You could taste the blood, like, in the back of your throat.

[Rory]

And again, what I did, because I'm a real man, suppressed it. I just buried it deep down inside.

[Mal]

Act like it didn't bother.

[Rory]

And then it will come. I don't know, like, two or three years. I will project it on someone else that doesn't deserve it. Someone else I will scream at somebody that did nothing wrong because I have taken all of these feelings. And when someone asks me, how are you doing? I go, I'm cool.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Rory]

Just burying it deeper and deeper.

[Damaris]

Rory took himself on a date yesterday for Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not very interesting.

[Mal]

You were not, like, on a date by yourself?

[Rory]

Yeah, I took myself on a date.

[Mal]

Where'd you go, up the block?

[Damaris]

No, it was a nice, like, French restaurant.

[Rory]

Yeah, one of my spots. I'm not gonna say it, but, yeah, a spot I like. I took myself on a date new to a French restaurant, as recommended at. From a therapist. To take yourself on a date. And I found out I'm not very interesting. And I wouldn't recommend dating me.

[Julian]

You just scroll.

[Damaris]

Yeah, the whole time I was there for a second, I left. He was kind of boring.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was.

[Mal]

So you wasn't by yourself.

[Rory]

I know he's with Damaris.

[Damaris]

I was there for. I was there for.

[Rory]

Because women don't respect men's mental health.

[Mal]

You didn't go on a date by yourself. You went with the marriage?

[Damaris]

No, he went by himself. I stopped by him. I was in the area. I said hi. I was there for 15 minutes, and then I left. Like, he went on a date by himself.

[Mal]

So French restaurant.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You know what you are, right?

[Rory]

What?

[Mal]

You're.

[Julian]

Yeah, I think the inflection means you.

[Rory]

Don'T have glass on.

[Mal]

Not a baguette.

[Rory]

Good luck, Peach.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Peach has to keep Peach.

[Mal]

My bad, bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry, Pete. It won't happen again. Sorry. All right, back to. Back to regularly scheduled programming.

[Rory]

Taking yourself on a date is overrated. I hate to be the person that comes in.

[Mal]

I was the guy. I was the guy that was totally against going to the movies by yourself. And I did it a couple years ago for the first time. And I told you, I was like, damn, Rose wasn't that bad.

[Julian]

What'd you see? Barbie.

[Mal]

You would think I went to see Barbie by myself. No, I forgot what movie it was the first time I went. But then I went to go see the second movie I saw by myself was the Jordan movie. What was the name of it at. Is it.

[Julian]

Oh, nope. The Jordan Peele movie.

[Rory]

Air Jordan movie.

[Mal]

Was it Air.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Mal]

Was that it?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, what did you learn about yourself when you went out and saw these movies on your personal.

[Mal]

By myself. I just was like, yo, this is. No, nobody's talking to me. Shut the up.

[Rory]

So, like, I could just.

[Mal]

Going to the movie and the theater was pretty much, yeah.

[Julian]

How's that? How's that?

[Rory]

Explain.

[Damaris]

That's not a real. That's not a real solo day. A real solo date is when you have, like, there's nothing to really distract you from the fact you're just with you. Like, for example, Rory went to dinner, he ate, but there's nothing he's, like, watching or anything. Like he's really sitting with himself and.

[Mal]

Discovering myself in the theater.

[Julian]

No, because you're stimulated. You're watching something that's entertaining. You're stimulated when you're eating.

[Mal]

You're eating.

[Julian]

No, but your. Your thoughts aren't on.

[Mal]

You're not.

[Julian]

And you're not on a storyline as you're. When you're watching a movie. When you're sitting alone, you have to think.

[Mal]

So now you're going to tell me that?

[Julian]

I'm not saying it doesn't count. I'm proud of you, but it's different.

[Rory]

There was some hilarious replies because I tweeted after I left my date with myself. I said, my therapist said I should take myself on a date tonight. I was very uninteresting. Wouldn't recommend. People replied with, what was your biggest red flag? Did you go 50, 50 with yourself? Did you spend $200? That's probably what was missing.

[Damaris]

That's actually very cute. And Clever.

[Rory]

Then someone said, did you beat.

[Mal]

Did you beat yourself?

[Julian]

They said, would you go to.

[Mal]

Yo. Men can't have nothing, man. At all. We can't have shit.

[Rory]

And then, even when I got home, even though I have a very supportive partner, I could see the tone the same way. Damaris couldn't stop herself from laughing through that sentence. She was like, so how was it? Yeah, I felt like I was being mocked.

[Mal]

No. Oh, trust me. And every. And girls that knew that you by yourself. In all of the group chats, you were. I won't say the word because Peja have to do some work, but trust me, in every woman's group.

[Damaris]

That's not true.

[Mal]

Y'all was laughing at this. Damaris, don't.

[Damaris]

No, that's not true. I like when men know how to go out. I think it's a huge red flag when I meet men that don't know how to be alone. And that's like a good 80% of the men that I've met be alone.

[Mal]

Be alone. Like, not in a relationship. Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I meant if you see a.

[Mal]

Man, every time you see him, he's in a restaurant eating by himself. You gonna ask that the fourth time see him? All right, where's the dead bodies hitting that, bro?

[Damaris]

No, this is some serial killer you like.

[Rory]

No, he's probably just married.

[Damaris]

You like that too. Very true.

[Julian]

That's a fact.

[Damaris]

Because when be eating alone and like, especially at hotel bars and stuff like that, they're usually married.

[Mal]

Oh, they're looking for some.

[Rory]

There was a great, like, tick tock meme of a guy eating by himself enjoying the time that he was spending. And the caption was $22. And I enjoyed my meal versus 129 in an argument. I was like, yeah, eating by yourself might be the move.

[Mal]

So you just kind of saved the economy a little bit by going on the date by yourself.

[Rory]

I think I should have tricked on myself a little bit more.

[Mal]

Yeah, you got to trick on yourself.

[Rory]

And I definitely didn't get lucky.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you was buying wine by the glass. Your man a cheapscape, huh?

[Julian]

Facing them.

[Rory]

I never understood.

[Julian]

How many glasses, sir?

[Rory]

One. No, no, no glasses.

[Mal]

Drinking a bottle of wine by yourself at a restaurant is crazy.

[Rory]

I mean, if you add up two glasses of wine in a restaurant, it's damn near a bottle.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, two bottles.

[Damaris]

Well, three. Three glasses is a bottle.

[Rory]

Three glasses, 12 ounces or nine or whatever the they do.

[Julian]

And it's really not that much.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I've. I've taken a bottle of Wine back.

[Mal]

But seeing the bottle and, like, the ice bucket next to your table by yourself, that's sick. I'm like, I fan. What's up with you, man? At some point, a waiter, somebody has to ask you, are you okay? I mean, because that's some different shit. Not saying it's anything wrong with it, but it is going to raise some questions. Like, yo, what's up, homie at table seven? He. I like, if I work there, I'm definitely. Yo, watch this nigga at table seven, bro. He might shoot this shit up.

[Rory]

Have you ever seen Forgetting Sarah Marshall?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

When he goes to the restaurant, when he gets to the resort, he's like, is your wife or girlfriend gonna join you? He's like, no, no, I'm just by myself. He's like, do you want, like, a magazine or anything? Like, to be, like, really weird, like, by yourself?

[Mal]

Okay, fine. Cool. You don't need anything?

[Julian]

Okay, great.

[Rory]

Is your wife gonna meet you?

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Girlfriend? I don't have a girlfriend.

[Rory]

This was me. To the hostess.

[Julian]

Just by yourself? Shout out Fat Jonah Hill.

[Rory]

That sucks.

[Mal]

Just one.

[Rory]

All right. Here's your wine list, your menu.

[Julian]

Come on.

[Rory]

You want, like, a magazine or something? If you're just sitting by yourself.

[Damaris]

In these days, I would be so depressed.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying. It's like, yo, bro, like, what we doing here, man? You by yourself? Like, I get it, but I. Man, like, what's up with you?

[Rory]

I'm an only child, so I don't find it very weird. I prefer that type of. But I can see how someone else would think it's. It's psycho behavior.

[Mal]

Some of the weird.

[Damaris]

That's so crazy to me because us, we women, we do that all the time.

[Mal]

Because women are crazy. That's why y'all do it all the time.

[Damaris]

No, we just. It's nice not to hear anybody else's voice. Like, I like going to the bar, having a book reading, and just eating by myself.

[Julian]

I've been doing that recently, but I just have, like, a podcast in or something.

[Damaris]

Oh, God, no, respectfully, not all.

[Julian]

Like, no comedy ones.

[Damaris]

Oh, you're like a loser.

[Rory]

So, us?

[Julian]

Oh, no, definitely not us.

[Damaris]

Like a comedy podcast at the bar. Like, you like laughing and by yourself.

[Julian]

It's that. That app. That app that I have. That. The one you guys make fun of me. The gay model app where I post my food.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. I mean, so that one, I respect it.

[Julian]

It's gay, but I respect one spot, like, maybe once every other week. And it's it's nice. I got a steak dinner in a glass of wine for like $10. I just have to leave a tip, so I go to the bar alone.

[Rory]

Kind of tip.

[Mal]

Steak dinner and a glass of wine for $10.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Does that come with baby wipes?

[Julian]

I don't. What's the.

[Damaris]

It's a good steak dinner.

[Julian]

No, it's just.

[Damaris]

He gets a discount.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's just the deal. Like the steak. If I were to pay full price, it's a 30. 30 something dollars steak.

[Mal]

Must say $10 steak.

[Julian]

Oh, no, no. God, no, no.

[Mal]

Sound like a truck stop.

[Julian]

Like a McRib. Yeah.

[Rory]

Rubber tire series.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

About to. Like what? All right, cool. That's what. Just stomach likes. Whatever.

[Damaris]

In honor of Men's Mental Health Month, do you guys. Do you feel like men suffer in silence?

[Mal]

Do I feel like.

[Julian]

Do I.

[Mal]

Do I think men suffer in.

[Julian]

She meant that.

[Mal]

Do you think men suffer in silence? Damaris. You're asking men. Do we think men suffer in silence? The answer is yes.

[Rory]

I just explained how I suppress things, then two years later, take them out on people that don't deserve it. But did you listen to anything I.

[Damaris]

Said the last 30 minutes? Okay, so that brings. That brings me to my point. So I got into a debate with a gentleman on Twitter.

[Rory]

You asked how he was doing, and he said, cool, because I. He's suffering over here, dying. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

I got into a debate with a gentleman on Twitter because I said I feel like. Or somebody else said it, and I agree with them. I feel like men don't. Men think they suffer in silence. They don't suffer in silence. They just take their misery out on other people. They don't talk about what's wrong, but they take their misery out on other people. They don't actually suffer in silence. And he's like, we suffer. We do. We don't say anything. We. And I'm over here like, yep, this is you suffering in silence, yelling at me on Twitter. Like, this is the point. Like, when men are ups. From what I've observed. Not all men. From what I've observed, when men are upset or going through something, they're quicker to anger and they. They just lash out, usually on their girlfriends or their families or whoever is closest to them, especially if they broke. Oh, Lord, child.

[Rory]

Julian asked us at the beginning of the episode if we hit women. So I don't know if this is a full circle moment.

[Julian]

I. Okay.

[Mal]

See?

[Damaris]

All right, all right, all right. But that's.

[Rory]

You're making a Point.

[Damaris]

That's what I. That's what I was asking is, do you guys have you. Are you self aware of the fact that you do that? As a person who works with y'all, I can say that y'all do that. Y'all might not be aware of the fact that y'all do.

[Julian]

Do what?

[Mal]

That we suffer in silence.

[Damaris]

That y'all suffer in silence very loudly. Are y'all aware of when you're upset and you're taking out on other people?

[Rory]

People, yeah. And my self awareness, I now, like, put it to, like, objects. Like, if I'll suppress something for, like, three weeks, then when the. A train doors shut in my face, that's when it all unloads. And then I just start punching the side of a train, which just hurts me.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So doesn't hurt.

[Julian]

That's right.

[Mal]

The train's fine.

[Rory]

It's been there for 30 years. Like, they haven't put a new one in in so long. 30 more, and my hand is now broken.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So is that suffering and silence?

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

Taking out on mta. Yeah.

[Julian]

So that's good.

[Mal]

I've never taken anger out on you.

[Damaris]

I didn't say you take it out on me.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Yeah. But men suffer in silence. Men have, I think. Well, not just men.

[Rory]

You took it out on Kendrick.

[Mal]

How? What?

[Rory]

It's all coming full circle now.

[Mal]

I've never said anything.

[Rory]

Kendrick is your mta.

[Damaris]

Were you getting that week? What were you getting that week?

[Mal]

What week?

[Julian]

What are you talking about? The month. We'll give you the month of May.

[Damaris]

The month of May upside down, saying.

[Rory]

It'S dead, six feet under, and you got the bar.

[Julian]

Oh, is it. Kendrick wore the crown. The. The thorn.

[Rory]

And it's like he's in a prison of himself. That's what the thorns.

[Julian]

Life, cyclical, is a circle. It goes around your head. Suffering.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Silently.

[Damaris]

So Jesus suffered with the crown.

[Julian]

He suffered in silence, too. Did he make noise that was loud? Put a nail through your hand and not be. You don't. You don't give him like a. You don't. You don't eat that quietly.

[Mal]

You're gonna make like that's a man that's suffering. Drive a nail through my foot and I don't make a.

[Julian]

No, I think.

[Rory]

No, I think it was dead quiet. Was up. Was the other two prisoners. Because he wasn't crucified by himself. It was. Yeah, it was three crosses. Jesus, and then just two other guys.

[Julian]

It's like the other guy that was in the car with Paul.

[Rory]

Imagine you're being tortured to death and your Cody is just sitting there like 10 toes. Like he deserves this. How is he not even making a noise?

[Damaris]

He deserves.

[Rory]

He's the serial killer. All I did was steal some bread.

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah, that ten toes, he's saying don't hurt. But yes, men do suffer in silence. The marriage. But I think society has made it that men probably are better off suffering in silence. It's up.

[Damaris]

How are y'all better off suffering silence and y'all always killing yourselves?

[Mal]

Well, sometimes that's.

[Damaris]

Y'all should probably talk.

[Rory]

That's the period at the end of the sentence. You just got your answer. What are you talking about?

[Mal]

That's it. The end.

[Rory]

That little semicolon. Now it's a period.

[Mal]

Yeah, I was suffering.

[Rory]

Triple entendre. Don't even ask me.

[Damaris]

I, I, I, I get it.

[Rory]

Depressed. We hear, we hear. Yeah, we know, we know the metaphors.

[Damaris]

Yeah. I was just asking, Julian, do you feel like you take out your, your when you're angry or depressed or frustrated, do you feel like you take it out on people? No, that don't deserve.

[Julian]

I'm like a physical. Like, I exercise. Like, that's my, that's always my outlet. Go on a bike ride, workout, play basketball. Is that game all. Is it gay to do stuff that's active?

[Mal]

No, I'm just laughing because you said when you're upset, you do the triathlon.

[Damaris]

That's not funny. That's not a triathlon.

[Mal]

I work out. I bike. Shut the up.

[Julian]

I don't know. I try to talk to you guys.

[Rory]

Next year I'm going for the iron man. Like, oh, he going through it.

[Mal]

Only, only a real man could be an iron man.

[Rory]

Yeah, you training at Coney Island.

[Mal]

Look, that's.

[Rory]

And he.

[Mal]

Now he has to suffer himself because we laughed at him. Shut the fuck up.

[Damaris]

No, now he's gonna take it. Snap on me later during production.

[Mal]

I'm sorry, man. I see you. I'm here for you, bro.

[Julian]

Go on a bike ride and go on a 20 mile, 20 mile bike ride on break.

[Mal]

Yo, being upset and going on a bike ride.

[Julian]

Me, I do that. That morning when you guys up the whole Dream Build thing. That's why I went on that bike ride. I was so my.

[Mal]

I didn't know you went.

[Rory]

You just, you thought you lost your backstage pass. That's all that you wasn't going through nothing. You just thought you had, you had no comps.

[Mal]

He thought he lost his laminate. I had a string and everything for it.

[Julian]

They snatched it off my neck.

[Mal]

You snatched that like ti atl. Give me this.

[Julian]

No, that is not.

[Rory]

I'll never go to Dave and Busters with Cole again.

[Julian]

You guys are haters, man.

[Rory]

Yeah, because we suppress and then we hate.

[Mal]

Yo, Julian, I didn't know that that was your release, bro. I didn't know you're going bike rides, by the way.

[Damaris]

I just want to make this clear that I started a conversation about you guys mental health, and you turned it into making fun of each other.

[Mal]

That's what we do.

[Damaris]

Why we've been doing this since mental health is up. So don't say it's the women. And we don't allow y'all to do. And we don't care. It's y'all.

[Mal]

Soon as a man go to you with his problems and his issues, you gonna console him. And then you gonna go in there, get on your phone with your girls. Like, girl, this here talking about when his father left that been gone 27 years. Get over it.

[Rory]

Or. Or this. This is why I don't date men with mommy issues.

[Mal]

Exactly. Oh, y'all love that.

[Rory]

Yeah, y'all love to do this trick where you pretend to care about our mental health, but then throw it in our face in an argument way later. Like, why would I even be vulnerable?

[Mal]

Yeah, that's it.

[Rory]

This is just more ammo for you.

[Damaris]

Because you're using your vulnerabilities as an excuse. You're using what you did to be vulnerable as an excuse for your up ass behavior. Especially once you are aware, yo, this.

[Rory]

Is the biggest gaslight I should never see and suppress everything I'm saying, I'm saying I'll speak for me. I have had real conversations with women that have pretended to care about my mental health. Sat there, I was like, oh, they really care. And then months down the line, all of a sudden, that's ammo in an argument out of nowhere. It's just a stray of just like, that's why you and your mom don't get along. And it's like, what the that's doing what's going on right now. You took that information just now and blamed me for it.

[Damaris]

I didn't blame you for it. I'm saying if you. You can't be okay. It's the same thing where people are like, well, if I told her the truth, she would. Yes, you can be honest. But once we're all aware of what your issues are, if you continue to do up and then be like, well, you know, I. I told you, my sister, you know, I'M saying my grandma died or I told you, like, I don't have a good relationship with my dad or this is why I'm acting like this, and I was vulnerable with you, and I can't believe. Okay, that doesn't give you an excuse to be a up person. You're aware of what's wrong with you. Let's fix it.

[Rory]

You're gaslighting by making a whole new scenario what we're talking about. Yeah, I didn't even say what was happening in the argument of who was wrong or who was right. I'm just saying women use that clear as ammo when you're vulnerable with them.

[Julian]

I can smell the gas.

[Mal]

Yeah, me too.

[Damaris]

I'll fart it.

[Rory]

Premium unleaded. This is just like 5.99.

[Julian]

Well, do you guys think all of our mental health issues and we're so up because Ray J and Kim Kardashian put out a sex tape? Everything would be different if that hadn't happened.

[Damaris]

That was an awful transition.

[Rory]

No, that was good, I guess. I appreciate that. Like, I, I.

[Damaris]

It's not there. It's around the corner.

[Julian]

Ray J went on Club Shay Shay and said, had they not put out the sex tape, more people would have gone to college. There might not be only fans, and there would probably be a cure.

[Damaris]

Or are we a part of the cure? Are we a part of this?

[Julian]

Okay, got you. Yeah. What do you guys think?

[Rory]

Like, when Puff told Big, can't change the world, so we change ourselves.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's true.

[Rory]

What does that sentence have to do with anything he said before?

[Julian]

I kind of feel him, though.

[Rory]

I agree with everything Ray J says. I think he's one of the most important human beings to the culture in the last 20 years.

[Damaris]

Ray J said when he found out about. When he heard. When he first heard that he was on sex tape, he said, I. The only thing I could remember was how it smelled.

[Mal]

He said what he said.

[Damaris]

He said when sh. Shay was like, you know, what was your first thought when they told you that this tape had leaked? This, this and that. And Ray J was like, the only thing I can remember was how it smelled.

[Rory]

He wasn't saying a negative way.

[Mal]

I'm sure Kim smells great. I'm not. I'm just saying that's what he. That's what.

[Damaris]

That's what he said.

[Rory]

You've. You've never, like, had a scratch and sniff video. Like, you look back at some of your sex tapes and you just get brought back to the aroma that was in there. Like, In a good way.

[Julian]

Tilapia.

[Rory]

Film it. Filming some. That smells nasty is insane.

[Damaris]

It had a little.

[Mal]

Anyway. And keeping it, like, years later, you still got it.

[Rory]

Like, the scents have never brought you right back to that time when you see the video. You start smelling what exactly?

[Mal]

What she smells like. Yeah.

[Rory]

I totally understood what Ray J was saying in that whole thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Damn. I remember we were on vacation. I remember the beach smell combined with how good her pussy smell.

[Mal]

Yo.

[Rory]

I mean, it's a whole.

[Mal]

That means you had a great time. When you remember how the island smell, you remember how that ocean smell. And that. That. That. That. That.

[Damaris]

That villa and the conch fritters down the street.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. That means you had a great fucking time. I mean, basketball. They say, take me back.

[Julian]

I feel them. Because I feel like when this tape came out, it changed the. What women were supposed to look like. I think a lot of body dysmorphia kind of came about after this tape released.

[Damaris]

It was still natural when that tape.

[Rory]

I think that happened later with Kim Kardashian for sure. But I don't think it was.

[Damaris]

It wasn't.

[Julian]

But I think this was the empathy. Like, this put her over the edge. Like, she was. That. That I'm over.

[Mal]

She, like, ain't gonna lie.

[Julian]

Harris's assistant dumb good.

[Rory]

I think so. Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah. So I'm saying, like, this put her, like, above. She jumped, like, 10 classes when this came out. And then she became the. The girl everyone sought to be. And then I think that's when that was like.

[Rory]

That was like. That was way 15 dicks later.

[Damaris]

But then I think, all right, watch it. Don't violate, bro.

[Rory]

Because 15 bodies is not a lot of bodies. That wasn't disrespectful.

[Damaris]

It was disrespectful because you should have said years.

[Rory]

Almost 50.

[Damaris]

You could have said years. You could have said anything but 15 bodies. Yes. And immediately go to. That was like 15 dicks later. That was disrespectful.

[Julian]

Trying to do some math.

[Rory]

How many celebrity. All right, I assume that she has sex with the people she's dating. Is that okay to assume?

[Damaris]

But it doesn't.

[Rory]

All right. How many celebrity people do we know that she's dated? I'm. I'm sure I undersold the 15. You guys are saying it's disrespect. The truth is just the truth.

[Mal]

I don't think it was that many guys.

[Damaris]

It wasn't. Kim Kardashian does. Kim Kardashian's celebrity bodies are not even that bad.

[Julian]

She dated the game.

[Rory]

Yeah. Wait. First of all, I'm not saying Kim has some crazy disgusting past. I'm saying the opposite. You guys are taking it as. I'm saying she's a hoe. 15 bodies as a grown adult. Not that much.

[Damaris]

We weren't talking about bodies. We were talking about her trajectory and how you making me cape for Kardashian. Her trajectory and how she became who she became. And that doesn't. Didn't have anything to do with how many people she dated.

[Mal]

That.

[Damaris]

That wasn't why Kim became.

[Rory]

I was putting on the timeline of when she started having the surgery. It was almost 15 notable relationships after the Ray J sex tape. That. This body dysmorphia. Every chick trying to look like Kim happened. Is that. Is that more clear?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

I'll take the word dick out of it. Fifteen beautiful relationships that just didn't manifest themselves. Yeah. Chapters have to end.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end. So that's all I'm trying to say about.

[Mal]

We're all a part of each other's story. Yeah.

[Julian]

You gotta turn the page and move forward.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That's all Kim did. She just turned the next page.

[Mal]

That's it.

[Rory]

As we all need to do in our lives.

[Julian]

Isn't that. What's that?

[Rory]

And that page should be from the Bible.

[Julian]

Turn the page. That's a great song.

[Rory]

With all that said, I. I think it happened later. I agree to Julian's original point, but nobody was looking at Body Shaman during that Kim Kardashian sex tape.

[Julian]

But I think this put her in.

[Rory]

He was watching Kim say yo, come on my face.

[Damaris]

She said that?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Rory having the. You got the spark notes from.

[Mal]

Did she say that? I don't know if she said that.

[Damaris]

Why do you have the script memorized?

[Rory]

I'm a connoisseur. I love. I love the arts.

[Mal]

Everybody watched that tape.

[Rory]

I'm a collector at least 10 times.

[Damaris]

I got my like 10 viruses on my parents computer trying to download that tape.

[Rory]

Same ruin that Gateway 98.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Smoke that.

[Rory]

That caught on fire trying to download that tape.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

And what year was that?

[Julian]

March 21, 2007. That's when Chris tricked her own daughter.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Pimp her out. Yo.

[Rory]

Who designed like the people. Since podcasting is across the board in our world right now, and they're running out of people to interview, we need to start getting to who made these graphics. You think like, I want. I want someone to interview the guy that made this.

[Julian]

He's right here.

[Mal]

Yeah, this is like a classic font.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that was a classic font. I'm not gonna lie.

[Rory]

How do you think he landed on that photo, Ray J?

[Julian]

Well, it's smart because screen grabs from the video.

[Rory]

Oh, I see you guys have the deluxe. I don't remember. I don't remember the Ray J sunglasses moment.

[Mal]

Yeah, you didn't get the one.

[Julian]

But this is so brilliant, Chris.

[Rory]

This is so brilliant by Chris, the DVD commentary.

[Julian]

Yeah, she's making it about Kim, when at this time, Ray J was obviously the much bigger star. But look what. Look how genius Chris is. She does Kim Kardashian, star featuring hip hop star, in tiny letters Ray J. As if he's the underbilling. He was the star.

[Mal]

No, he was the star at the time.

[Rory]

Also. One Wish is not a hip hop song at all. Ray J's hip hop, don't get me wrong, but he's not the hip hop Ray J.

[Damaris]

He's not sang R B they were talking about. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Julian]

Okay, so they shot this in 2003. Wow, that's a good rollout. Five years later, they cooked it.

[Damaris]

Damn. They weren't even together when that leaked in, huh? That's crazy.

[Rory]

He's. It's a stretch to say only fans exist because of it, but I don't know. Their DNA is. No pun intended.

[Mal]

They made it. This. This. This. This tape made was like celebrities. Because before, celebrities would be distraught and hurt when a sex tape came out like, like. But this turned it into shit. How much did she make off of that? I might as well put my sex tape on.

[Rory]

She's a millionaire now.

[Mal]

It made it like. It's. Not everybody has sex. It's not like you're on there having sex with somebody you wasn't supposed to be having sex with. This was your boyfriend. This was your relationship. It's fine. Make some money off of it. So I understand what Ray J is saying. It definitely somebody at Onlyfans. The idea of that sparked when the whole celebrity sex tape shit became cool as a result of Ray J and Kim Kardashian.

[Rory]

I mean, I get that Paris Hilton's probably like the cool Herc of this. Like, she is really the. The nucleus that started this whole thing. But I really think the ferals led the charge.

[Julian]

Please elaborate.

[Rory]

That Colin Farrell sex tape is not brought up in history the way.

[Damaris]

Never heard of it.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

You watched it?

[Rory]

I wasn't outside.

[Damaris]

How many times?

[Rory]

Apparently he got probably once. I might have double back.

[Mal]

He was with that Playmate what's her name?

[Rory]

She's fire.

[Mal]

Oh, she's beautiful.

[Rory]

Yeah, I was. I wasn't there to see my cousin. I was there to see the bad. He was.

[Mal]

Yeah, she's bad.

[Damaris]

Your cousin Dick just happened.

[Julian]

That tape was called Lunch and Dinner.

[Rory]

Hey, you never took a bath with your cousin.

[Damaris]

Colin Farrell was some white Fire.

[Rory]

Was. He's not still Whitefire. Put some respect on that last name.

[Julian]

Any relation? Rory. Damn, he got a forehead. God damn.

[Mal]

What they did.

[Julian]

They filmed the tape on that. Jesus Christ.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's wild.

[Julian]

Is that three terabytes? What is that?

[Mal]

That is huge.

[Rory]

My dad. My dad swears that it's his cousin's son, but my dad's also a liar, so I don't know. And I went around like, you know when your family tells you things and you're a kid and you're just, like, naive to.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then you get older and you're like, oh, I think my family was lying to him.

[Julian]

Put his hair down.

[Rory]

And then, like, as an adult, I was running around like, you know, we have real relation. Like, my pops told me, realizing your pop is. He's lying.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I don't think. I'm sure there's some relation somewhere, but, you know, potato famine got. It got weird somewhere. It got weird.

[Mal]

So you're your favorite guy in the world. Well, one of your favorite artists and producers of all time. One of my favorite.

[Rory]

One of the 15.

[Mal]

Yeah, one of the 15. He's being sued by his ex assistant over some inappropriate text messages.

[Julian]

I believe you want to read them.

[Rory]

I mean, you should read it out loud. You can be the judge if it's inappropriate.

[Mal]

So ex assistant is suing Kanye west for sexual harassments. Reveals alleged text he sent her via tmz. And this is from Lauren. Is my dick racist? It is this racist dick of mine. I Not. I'm. I going to beat this racist dick for being fucking racist.

[Rory]

When you're horny, it's tough to spell.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm going to stare at pictures of white woman with black asses and beat the shit out of my racist dick. Beating the shit out of his big black.

[Julian]

His. Wait, now he's talking about another dick.

[Mal]

Yeah, another dick might have walked.

[Rory]

Kanye definitely texted this.

[Mal]

100. 100. So I don't know where this. But he did release a. Was there a. Relate. A statement released from Kanye?

[Julian]

I believe there was, which I. I.

[Mal]

Have here in response to the alleged lawsuit. Okay. So in response to these baseless allegations, Jay will be filing a lawsuit against Mrs. Peshata, who actively pursued him sexually to coerce employment and other material benefits, then engaged in blackmail extortion when her advances were rejected. I find it very hard that Kanye rejected Ms. Pichata, but okay. Prior to her termination as an assistant, Ms. Pichada stole his cell phone in an attempt to destroy phone records that would contradict her claims, all of which have been preserved. She was terminated for being unqualified, demanding unreasonable sums of money, including a four million dollar annual salary and numerous documents. Documented incidents of her la.

[Rory]

Yeah, it's tough, man. See lashes?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

Last one. He up.

[Mal]

Lashivist. Unhinged conduct during her employment, Ms. Pichata offered yay sex on his birthday, to which he declined unsolicited nude images, sexual narratives, and was seen twerking in the office during business hours.

[Damaris]

Damn, they got me.

[Mal]

On one occasion, Pichada boasted how the best moment of her life was when she was being ejaculated on by a soccer player while simultaneously texting her boss.

[Julian]

Where'd she get that? Off at the water cooler?

[Rory]

Look. Look at the moments of your life.

[Mal]

Insane. It is well documented how Ms. Pichata consistently used sexual coercion in an attempt to demand not only money, but material items, namely Hermes Birkin bags, a Lamborghini, and an endless quest for plastic surgery.

[Rory]

4 million to be an assistant, plus a Birkin and a Lamborghini.

[Mal]

These hoes are boldest upon having her advances rebuked. Pashada's blackmail demands have gone from 60 million last year to 50 million in last week's frivolous filing. Such behavior is entirely inconsistent with someone who claims to have been sexually harassed or experienced a hostile work environment. It is evident that Ms. Peshada leveraged her association with Ye and his company and her proximity to him to seek material gains, clout, and employment through inappropriate means. Her initial attempt at a lawsuit for unlawful termination gained no media traction, leading her to fabricate headlines following threats of black melon extortion. Yay. Isn't the only celebrity targeted by Peshada. Jay Leno is suing her for stealing his chin. This story is being updated.

[Julian]

Leave Jay out of it.

[Mal]

Yeah, so do with that what you will. This sounds like something that'll be dismissed and thrown out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I hope he really. I mean, but if he really text her that, then no matter what she did that you. You can't text your employees.

[Rory]

I think they're both lying. I think they were. Yeah, consensually. And they're both lying now. Yeah, that's. That's where I'M I've landed. After looking through all this entire thing.

[Mal]

I could see it being a personal, a physical relationship at some point going sour and then now ending up here in a lawsuit. But, I mean, Lauren looks great.

[Rory]

Oh, no. I went to her IG when this whole thing happened, and you were everywhere on it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Now, Lauren, she looks good.

[Rory]

Do you think. Do you feel like she was the most qualified for the assistant position?

[Mal]

I don't know. I don't. I don't. I haven't looked into her.

[Rory]

No, I'm just asking a simple question.

[Julian]

Is that a million dollar salary?

[Rory]

Like as far as far as tasks, when especially Kanye being the businessman that he is and everything he has on his plate. Out of all the candidates, do you feel like she was probably the most qualified for the assistant role and everything that Kanye needs day to day?

[Mal]

She looks like she would make a great assistant.

[Julian]

There's two reasons why she got the job.

[Rory]

Does she look like she knows how to file?

[Mal]

She looks like she knows how to file. Nails look great. So she obviously knows how to file. She looks like she's a early riser. She's early.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because she just left live.

[Mal]

Yeah, she's like. She's like.

[Rory]

She didn't go to sleep, so she's.

[Mal]

On top of the emails and things like that.

[Damaris]

Great titties.

[Rory]

Somebody leaked her only fan on the timeline.

[Julian]

Oh, I'll find it.

[Rory]

Great titties.

[Mal]

No, Lauren is.

[Rory]

She doesn't need any more plastics looks amazing.

[Mal]

Yeah, she looks good.

[Rory]

Sorry, I'm objectifying. She was an assistant. She's a businesswoman. I apologize.

[Mal]

She looks great, though. Beautiful assistant.

[Rory]

If you showed up one day with an assistant that looked like that, I as.

[Damaris]

Oh, my bad. That wasn't. We saw. My bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[Julian]

Rory.

[Mal]

You my assistant?

[Rory]

Yes. I thought that was funny.

[Damaris]

If you had assistant that looked like that, you ain't. She ain't doing. You didn't hire her for her brains. You hired her for us. To her.

[Mal]

But what if she.

[Damaris]

That was a gift.

[Mal]

What if she looks that great?

[Rory]

That's a crazy. You hired her for us. To her.

[Julian]

I mean, that's kind of what these women are.

[Mal]

But what if she's, like, highly educated and like, has.

[Julian]

She's not multiple.

[Mal]

You don't know that.

[Julian]

Lauren's not.

[Mal]

How do you know that?

[Damaris]

You don't know that, Julian.

[Julian]

All right, my bad. She went to mit.

[Rory]

Maybe.

[Damaris]

You don't think pretty girls can go to mit.

[Julian]

No, they can. I'm saying Lauren Didn't. That's. I'm only talking about Lauren.

[Rory]

All right, what school would you respect that she went to?

[Julian]

What's the one out there? Sdsu.

[Rory]

San Diego State?

[Julian]

Yeah. You would respect sdsu? Girl.

[Mal]

I wouldn't give a.

[Damaris]

What school she went to the school of hard knocks. In this.

[Mal]

She walked them all. But she's hired.

[Damaris]

Exactly, which is why a her. See.

[Julian]

Oh, my bad. She didn't attend college. Sorry.

[Rory]

That's because she's smart. She's too smart and knows it's a pun.

[Julian]

She's like Zuckerberg.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

Yo, I would love to have that side conversation with Loyon. If you brought on an assistant that looked like that and Loyan trying to like.

[Mal]

All right, so what.

[Rory]

What are we doing with this? Tell me what she's really doing.

[Mal]

How do we.

[Rory]

How do we justify this payment?

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Rory]

As your friend, if you walked in that assistant, I would really have to be a true friend and pull you aside and say, what are you doing, man?

[Mal]

Why.

[Rory]

Why is she. Why do you think she's the most qualified?

[Mal]

That.

[Rory]

All right, that'd be my first question.

[Mal]

What if I tell you she all her qualifications? Yo, she's on top of everything. She.

[Rory]

And I'm sure she is consistent.

[Julian]

Stays on top.

[Mal]

Yeah, she's consistent. You know, I mean, she smells great. Looks great. Because you need an assistant that smells and looks great. It's good for the work environment. It's like having a beautiful plant in the workspace. It's like. Oh, it just feels. The energy in here is just a lot different with this beautiful plant and.

[Damaris]

Me and yomi's plants as the plants. We're dying, so we definitely need more plants.

[Rory]

Yeah, most still thinks we're living in like, the Mad Men era, when you're just allowed to say that.

[Mal]

That we're not like plants.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, just have a pretty assistant that you could. And smells good.

[Mal]

I never did water. I've never said anything.

[Rory]

She got a pretty voice. She answers phones and just connects me to the phone, like, you know, it's great.

[Mal]

Yeah, she's. She's a good worker. Why not? Can't. She can't be a prison. A prisoner. Because she looks good. Like, I worker.

[Rory]

I was the one that thought she went to mit. I'm not Julian.

[Mal]

Yeah, I would hire her.

[Julian]

What does MIT stand for, Rory?

[Rory]

Massachusetts Institution of Technology.

[Julian]

All right. Damn.

[Rory]

Was I right? Yeah, that was a full blown guess.

[Julian]

Yeah. MIT's in Boston.

[Damaris]

Institute. Right?

[Julian]

Institute. Yeah. I'll get. I'll. I'll give him that, though.

[Rory]

I'll thank you for giving that to me.

[Julian]

Yeah, you got it.

[Rory]

Thank you.

[Mal]

Thank you. How kind.

[Damaris]

Rory, were you good at math, like, when you were a kid?

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

No, because like, most people. Most people who aren't good at reading are, like, good at math or, like.

[Mal]

Like, it's usually one of their reading.

[Damaris]

No, I was like, yeah, but most people who aren't good at stuff like that are usually really good at math. They call it, like, were you good at, like, anything?

[Mal]

Anything?

[Julian]

God damn.

[Rory]

I mean, I'm not. I thought I was personable, like, people. People liked me. I don't know if it was out of charity. Yeah, but, you know. Yeah, people.

[Damaris]

So you were a communications major?

[Rory]

Of course. Because I just didn't know. Got a track scholarship, and they're like, you got to pick something. I was like, which one doesn't have math?

[Mal]

Communications.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay. Ma, were you a math or a reading kid?

[Mal]

Reading, for sure.

[Damaris]

Reading and writing.

[Julian]

Yeah, but you're good at math because the whole drug stuff.

[Mal]

But that's a different type of math.

[Julian]

Yeah. Oh, I'm English language arts all the way. I can't do math for.

[Damaris]

Yeah, same.

[Rory]

You guys probably won't believe me, but I can read good in my head. It's like reading out loud that I'm shitty at.

[Julian]

Read.

[Rory]

Well, see, you're. You're a victim to the English language. That's why you went to college. Like, you just love. You just love the systems that are put on you.

[Julian]

And you, too. I just learned.

[Rory]

Yeah, but.

[Mal]

But I went there and learned something.

[Rory]

Yeah, but like, a real man. I didn't finish.

[Mal]

There you go. That's a real.

[Julian]

You suppressed your degree.

[Mal]

That's a real American man.

[Rory]

No, I suppressed my anger from childhood. Then I knocked out an ra and they were like, yeah, you can't be here anymore.

[Mal]

Real man. It's a real American.

[Rory]

That's a. To me, that's the definition of a man.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I was wondering, go into debt and punch somebody to it all up. That's the American way.

[Damaris]

Did you ever play pay back your student loans?

[Rory]

I didn't have much because I attract scholarship. So I had to pay, like, my meal plan off or some.

[Mal]

So that's nothing.

[Rory]

Yeah, I. I feel. I know that sounded like I'm grateful for that. I know I'm privileged to not have student loans. I don't want to. I got on people that have, like, $70,000 in debt. That's just going to acute A120 by next year.

[Damaris]

Y'all Know that student loans, like, are not deferred anymore.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I went home and, like, my mother was like, oh, yeah, you got some mail. And Nelnet was like, where you been for the past year? Like, they added, like, an extra $3,000 in interest alone.

[Mal]

You thought Biden was gonna wipe that away?

[Damaris]

I only had, like, 7,000.

[Rory]

He paid, like, four bots on Twitter to just be like, yo, I went my account today, and all my student loan debt is clear. And then you look at. Look at their actual page. Not, like how you just started your Twitter account today.

[Mal]

Exactly. Got y'all once again.

[Rory]

I mean, it's the American way. What do I know? Were you a reader or a math person? Would.

[Damaris]

A reader. We're all creatives. We're all readers.

[Julian]

She's a big reader currently.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Reading, writing, jokes.

[Rory]

Had to really answer your question. I was a good writer. I always wrote in school. Like, that was the thing I liked. I just couldn't really read, proofread my work.

[Mal]

You had to have somebody else proofread what you wr. What you written, what you written, what you written.

[Rory]

It was written.

[Mal]

It was.

[Damaris]

Damn, Roy N. That's how he changed your life. I keep making connections.

[Rory]

Yo, do we have voicemails?

[Julian]

Yes. Here's something to lighten the mood.

[Mal]

Hey, what's good?

[Julian]

Rory and Ma, this is Mar from Los Angeles, and I wanted to ask y'all a little small minor relationship question. So I've been talking to this girl for, like, two months lately, right?

[Mal]

And we never argue. We don't ever have any problems.

[Julian]

But her biggest issue with me is my Instagram.

[Mal]

So what she likes to do is.

[Julian]

She likes to go through the girls.

[Mal]

I follow, and she goes and looks at I like their pictures and stuff. And then she'll screenshot it and send.

[Julian]

It to me and be like, explain this.

[Rory]

I'm, like, only talking, so.

[Mal]

But this is, like, a weekly occurrence, and I'm trying to. Kind of getting sick of it, but I want to be with her, so.

[Julian]

I don't really understand the issue.

[Mal]

It's just Instagram.

[Julian]

So I'm just wondering how y'all think.

[Mal]

I should go about this situation. Should I just chalk her and stop.

[Julian]

Talking to her, or should I just tell her, hey, you have to get.

[Rory]

Over the Instagram situation if you're trying.

[Mal]

To be with me, so.

[Rory]

All right.

[Julian]

Appreciate y'all, man.

[Mal]

Love the pod.

[Damaris]

Run far away and don't stop running. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Get the fuck away from that girl.

[Rory]

Even when you feel winded. Just fight through it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And just keep sprinting.

[Damaris]

You going, call it. Just act like a cop with a porn mustache is chasing you. Just run.

[Rory]

And you don't like her. Keep reminding yourself that.

[Mal]

Yeah, that is like a. It's funny how much Instagram plays into real life relationships and the problems that.

[Damaris]

It causes with insecure, childish people.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I mean. I mean, everybody. We all have insecurities.

[Rory]

It's not me. I'm a man.

[Mal]

But I just think that it's just such a crazy thing to. To hear that people have these things going on in their homes where they have to have situations like this and deal with like this when there's so many other things you could actually be doing in your rel and with your relationship. But, I mean, get away from that insecurity. It's not going to get any better.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

People could say, oh, you could help. You could help her work. Or help him work on his insecurities. Help him work through their insecurities. No, you can't. No, that's a. That's a personal thing. That person has to do that work on their own. And you definitely don't want to stay in that situation and have to deal with that and end up being, you know, the fucking victim yourself of a relationship that you look back on and be like, it was just, you know, a waste of time or it was just. It just wasn't pleasant. So you got to get out of those situations like that early. Because she lost it short.

[Rory]

She's not insecure because of Instagram. She's insecure. So even if you fix the Instagram problem, she's gonna protect you.

[Mal]

Could delete your Instagram tomorrow.

[Rory]

She'll find another way.

[Mal]

It's gonna be a whole different issue tomorrow.

[Rory]

So I have a question to pose off of that. You guys are familiar with Frank Ocean Blonde, I assume number album of all time. Yeah. Better than songs. The Key of Life.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Do you guys remember the Facebook interlude?

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Rory]

I want to ask everyone in the room, was he gaslighting or making a good point?

[Mal]

I can't remember the song.

[Rory]

We can play it. It's not that long. I just don't know if we'll get.

[Julian]

For.

[Rory]

We get flags for playing.

[Julian]

Yeah, let's just. We'll read it. Let's just do the lyrics.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

This is Facebook, and I didn't know what to do.

[Julian]

You guys remember that?

[Rory]

Yeah, that was close.

[Julian]

His name is. His name is Sebastian.

[Rory]

Peach has to go home at some point.

[Mal]

Sorry, Sorry.

[Julian]

Roy, do it in your French voice.

[Rory]

I was telling her that I got this. I see. No, these aren't my vowels for my French accent.

[Julian]

All right. True.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't want to butcher it. Shout out to the French. Anyways, the story he's saying here is he met a girl, and they fell in love, and he didn't friend her on Facebook, and she accused him of cheating, and he didn't understand what the big deal is. Like, I'm in front of you all the time. We see each other every day. Why do we have to be friends on Facebook? In retrospect, I think he's gaslighting here and mad on Facebook.

[Mal]

Probably for years.

[Rory]

I was like, wow, this. This French guy figured it out. This is gaslighting to me.

[Damaris]

No.

[Rory]

What's. All right. Friend your girl on Facebook.

[Julian]

Well, let's come.

[Mal]

If this.

[Rory]

If this made a whole interlude on the number five greatest album of all time, it shouldn't have been this big of a deal. You're cleaning up. You mad on Facebook, and you don't want her.

[Julian]

The way this guy was talking does not sound like he was ma on Facebook.

[Rory]

Exactly. I mean, welcome to gaslighting.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Was just sitting next to you.

[Julian]

There's a couple crucial things.

[Rory]

This whole episode.

[Julian]

He says, I was in front of her. She said, accept me on Facebook. And then he said it was virtual. It makes no sense. And then she's like, you know, it's over. I can't believe you said, come on, you're crazy, because I'm in front of you every day here in your house. And then he said, the reason he said this means it's like jealousy, pure jealousy for nothing, you know, It's a virtual thing. That's his angle. Doesn't mean he's not cheating.

[Rory]

There's certain battles, if you're really not doing shit that you just take a L on. Friending your girl on Facebook is one that you just got to.

[Julian]

I agree. He should have, probably.

[Rory]

Even though I agree with his sentiment. Like, why do we. This whole virtual shit, like, I'm with you every day. We don't need to prove to the world who the fuck we are. But if this is that big of a deal to her, you just take the L on this one. Do. Unless you're doing some wild shit on Facebook.

[Mal]

Do women still are. Are women still in that phase of if they have a man, they want their man to post them on their social media? Some women I remember, that was, like, a big thing. I don't feel like it's like that anymore.

[Damaris]

No, but that was back when. See, I wanted us to bring back me and crush Monday and women crush Wednesdays. Like, I want us to bring back the golden era of Instagram.

[Mal]

Why?

[Damaris]

Because it was fun. Now everything's so mysterious. You posting this toenail and all this dumb shit. Like, I miss when we just posted stupid on Instagram. Everything's so curated now. I don't like it.

[Rory]

I. I miss the shitty stuff that was put in like 1977 filter.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah, the deep fried, like, just.

[Rory]

Just memes that didn't need a filter. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Why were we filtering memes? Like, what the was that?

[Rory]

Remember we all try to make ourselves cartoon characters. What was that? That wasn't a filter on Instagram. It was like another app to put on Instagram. We damn near looked like we were drawn.

[Mal]

Yeah, I never did that.

[Rory]

This is a lot of Puerto Ricans did it.

[Julian]

Easily one of the best posts ever that's ever been.

[Rory]

Yeah, this. This filter that's.

[Damaris]

Yeah, the Miami filter.

[Julian]

Kawhi posted this after meeting Obama.

[Mal]

Why would you do.

[Rory]

Just post the photo?

[Mal]

Why would you do this to a picture?

[Julian]

Just ruined one of the best moments of your life.

[Mal]

Crazy.

[Julian]

It's so bad.

[Damaris]

I used to love that deep fry filter.

[Julian]

Deep fried the shit out of him.

[Damaris]

That was the always in Miami filter. The take me back filter.

[Rory]

I miss when everyone used to just ruin photos with their tag in the middle of it. Like, I can't even read the meme anymore because you put your at over the text. Was good times.

[Damaris]

Those are the good old days. But as far as, like, girls want. Yes, girls still do want to be posted, but some girls don't. Like, I don't want to be. Don't post me.

[Mal]

Why?

[Damaris]

Because I don't know what the fuck you doing that's going to have bitches looking at me on your page like, yeah, girl, that's his girlfriend.

[Mal]

That's. But you see the fact that reason is just crazy. I know, but you don't want to be posted because you don't want other girls to be looking at you like, oh, that's her, man.

[Damaris]

No. And start laughing at you because n be doing embarrassing shit behind closed doors. Don't let everybody know who you're cheating on. Just go cheat. You don't got to advertise.

[Mal]

What if he's not doing that?

[Damaris]

Hey, y'all, this the dummy I'm cheating on.

[Rory]

What if he's the Facebook story guy?

[Mal]

Yeah, what if he's not doing anything?

[Julian]

What if he isn't just said he's cheating.

[Damaris]

What if he isn't?

[Mal]

But what if he's a hypocrite? What if he wants to be a faithful man and he's like, really just with you, only you.

[Damaris]

What do you post me? My ex posted me all the time.

[Julian]

But some people just don't buy into the social media, just parading that side of their life around. Some people just prefer some level of anonymity. And I don't even. Talking like entertainers and all that. I'm not. I'm talking about regular ass people. Yeah, like, my brother doesn't have an Instagram or use social media at all.

[Rory]

Well, that's because he's a politician. Other brother, he's got a burner.

[Julian]

No, my Antonio has an ins. He's on. All right, whatever.

[Damaris]

But I feel like. I feel like. So this is how I feel about you posting me. If you wanted them. People that post every single moment. But you don't post me. That's weird. Yes, but if you don't post anything and you don't post me, then that's fine because you don't post. Like, you don't really share your life. But if every time you have a green smoothie or you pop a bottle of Casamigos in the club or anything, yeah, you posting it. And you don't post me. Yeah, you post everybody the fudge else, but not me, then I know something is going on.

[Rory]

If you're reposting at hood clips every other day, and yeah, girl, then I could see there being an issue there. But I've also noticed a lot of women that say, you need to show me off. You need to celebrate me to the world are also the same women that pretend like they don't give a fuck. Fuck what bitches say. I don't really care. Like, fudge everybody, but then also echo. Well, you need to celebrate me to the world. Show me off to the. I thought you didn't care about the world. Yeah, thought it was everybody. I thought she was a real.

[Damaris]

Thought she was a real.

[Rory]

I seen your tweets. I thought she was a real.

[Mal]

What's going on in the clubs right now?

[Julian]

What? What do you mean?

[Mal]

We wanna know, like, what's the. What's. Like, what's. What's the. The clubs like right now?

[Damaris]

Who you asking?

[Mal]

Don't y'all be out. Y'all be out in the clubs.

[Damaris]

We do not be in clubs. We're not club people.

[Mal]

Nobody.

[Julian]

Like, I feel like nobody's gone enough that I could give mom, people, people.

[Rory]

Go to the clubs, but I don't think we don't room or quiet is kept. Jones might be the only one that can answer this question, right?

[Mal]

Be in the clubs.

[Rory]

Yes, she working.

[Damaris]

That's her version. I'm in the studio.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Shoot the club up.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm at work.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm at work.

[Mal]

I'm at work.

[Damaris]

On your forehead right now.

[Mal]

Photographer got to be crazy.

[Julian]

I'm at work. It's 3am A little sister.

[Mal]

Like, I just think about that, like, if my girl's a photographer, like, what if she get called to like run around with lil baby all night and take pictures of them, like hanging out in the studio and like that.

[Rory]

Okay, That's a job.

[Mal]

My girl ain't shooting.

[Rory]

I guess I just don't revere rappers the way you do that. I think my girl would just them.

[Mal]

No, it's not about that. I don't want my girl trailing a bunch of drunk high rappers all night.

[Rory]

I can see like a safety issue for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm not.

[Rory]

I thought you were like, yo, I don't want her around the rappers. You shouldn't be with that girl then.

[Mal]

No, I'm talking about just in that lifestyle, having to be the photographer that's around that shit, shooting that shit.

[Damaris]

If your girl was a photographer, would you let her go shoot an all male podcast?

[Julian]

This one.

[Damaris]

This one.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

I wouldn't care. I'm talking about like certain things. Like, yo, it's 2:00, it's 3:00 in the morning, you in the studio, and then after that they go into like the club and they want, like, is that different?

[Julian]

What about a show? Is she shooting a show?

[Mal]

I'm not mad. Listen, I understand the entertainment and I understand the industry and I understand what goes with it, but I'm just saying, like, I don't know if I would want my, my girl to be doing something like that just because of the, the dangers that comes with being in that environment.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, it's a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a lot of that. You got to deal with any. A lot of the times the photographer is not aware of what's going on because they're so focused on the artist and you know what I'm saying? Like, they don't. They're not looking at everything else around that moment.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they're actually more aware.

[Julian]

They're hyper aware.

[Damaris]

They're hyper aware of everything that's going on. Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. I stand corrected. But I don't know. I just know that it's dangerous for. For women to be in that environment, so.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You know, you're having it on her, though.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yom's not the one.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

There's other ones where I. Yeah, I fear for their safety, but not yom's. Yum's will pack lil baby out.

[Mal]

We got another voicemail.

[Julian]

Yeah, let's do another one.

[Rory]

Bring up that same thing on Patreon. I have an insecurity I want to talk about that has to do with your girl and photographers. I'm gonna be honest on Patreon and vulnerable, which I'm sure you guys will.

[Damaris]

Throw back because you're had a baby with a model.

[Rory]

We'll talk on Patreon.

[Julian]

Oh, I know.

[Rory]

Okay, I have. I have some questions.

[Julian]

What's the unit photographer?

[Rory]

You got to pass over all the hard drives, sir. We'll talk on Patreon next voicemail.

[Mal]

I need all the raw footage. What up, everybody from the Navorian Mall podcast this Los. From Chicago. I'm not gonna lie.

[Rory]

He's about to lie.

[Mal]

I think I'm tripping, but I just wanted to get y'all opinion because I was messing with this girl for a long, like, period of time, and I had to. I mean, I had to go. I had to go away for a.

[Rory]

Minute, but came back, college, mit.

[Mal]

Me and her was talking again, and she went off to school fucking with some dude and caught something. And, like, we stopped doing stuff, but then we got cool still, and I ended up cuffing, but she ended up cheating on me again. And I just stopped talking to her. Like, I didn't even tell her we were done. I just stopped talking to her. I'm just trying to see if I'm tripping. Not gonna lie. I would. I know Ma probably gonna say dump her, but I kind of want to get, like, the women point of view, too. From Damaris.

[Damaris]

I do not advocate for cheating. If she. Really. Well, let's see.

[Mal]

She caught something.

[Damaris]

He said. Well, she. Okay, so he went away to jail while he was away in class.

[Julian]

No, no, no, he went to mit.

[Mal]

Yeah, he went away.

[Damaris]

When he. When he went away, she continued to live her life, apparently, and she caught something. But I don't understand how that applies to what's going on right now. But whatever. He came back and they were friends, so everybody.

[Rory]

They had breaking up gonorrhea in college.

[Damaris]

Like, so obviously they have broken up or whatever. So now they're back together and. Or appear according to him here. Back together. This is. Let's make this clear. Were y'all really together or.

[Julian]

No, they're not.

[Damaris]

Did you just know that he said she cheated on him? So how.

[Julian]

He said they. And then he said after she cheated on him, he stopped it. He hasn't seen it.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm saying. Were you guys ever really together or were. Cause niggas don't be asking girls to be in relationships with them. It just be. Yo, I just, you know, you just. I feel like this my girl.

[Rory]

I'm on your side now. Thinking about that. He said she went away to school and started fucking with another dude and then said she cheated on me again. So does he count that first time of when she went to school as cheating?

[Damaris]

It does it give hood. Nigga that never said, are you my girlfriend? And you just assume this girl is in a relationship?

[Rory]

I think he was full of shit. And he never. They were never in a relationship.

[Damaris]

They were never in a relationship, bro.

[Mal]

Nah, y'all tripping. He went away. So naturally she got into another relationship.

[Rory]

Like, that's not cheating.

[Mal]

No, I'm not saying that was cheating. I think the cheating part was when she ended up getting catching.

[Rory]

No, she.

[Mal]

She.

[Rory]

She caught the clap. We're just gonna hope it was the clap. Yeah, she caught the clap in college with the.

[Damaris]

Yeah, the other guy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

He was still in jail, and then he.

[Rory]

He got back home and they got cool again, and he was like, it's cool. I probably caught something in jail too. They were fine.

[Mal]

Can we listen to this again? Because I feel like we butchered his story.

[Rory]

I know the story. And then. Then they reconnected and he. They were back together. And then she cheated on him again. But now thinking back, they were never together.

[Damaris]

They weren't.

[Rory]

You thought the first time was cheating. He was in jail. She went to college and with another guy.

[Mal]

I don't know if that's how the story went, but that's literally what so.

[Julian]

In the reality is. He only got cheated on once.

[Rory]

Did he?

[Damaris]

And that's what.

[Rory]

Did he ever get cheated on?

[Damaris]

All I'm saying is, were y'all actually together or were you just. Was that your baby and you felt like that was your girl, but you never made that official.

[Rory]

And the fact that he's. Has went back twice. Yeah. Makes me think that he's self aware enough to know that she ain't really cheat on me. We wasn't really together. That's why I'm justifying going back. Like, I was probably Doing some other. You was doing something else. We weren't really together.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Now, if you guys had made it clear that you were in a committed relationship and she hated.

[Mal]

I hate when women do that.

[Rory]

You gotta friend him on Facebook.

[Mal]

If you made it clear that we were in a. If that went out and another girl, you would be mad.

[Julian]

But were they Facebook.

[Damaris]

But okay, you can be mad at somebody. Somebody else, but does that mean that they cheated on you? Did they break the commitment?

[Mal]

You would feel like. You would feel like he cheated on you?

[Damaris]

No, it's.

[Rory]

That. Would you. That's not just women.

[Mal]

Would you feel like that's cheating, though?

[Damaris]

No. If we did not make it clear that we're in a committed relationship, then.

[Mal]

No, I'm not doing that.

[Damaris]

If we didn't say, yo, all right, we ain't dealing with nobody else right now, like we're in a committed relationship.

[Mal]

I get that. Then that's a relationship, even if you don't do that. And the you you find out he some other girl, you gonna feel like he's cheating on you.

[Damaris]

You can feel however. You're missing my point.

[Mal]

I understand what you're saying.

[Damaris]

You can feel however you want to be upset. You can feel. Feel however you want to feel. But that does not make the reality of them cheating on you. Your feelings do not dictate reality. Your feelings are your feelings. You could get mad, scream, cry, throw. But that does not mean that that person did something.

[Rory]

You can't say to that person. You cheated on me. No, I feel a way and I'm hurt because you someone else. But I have no right to say you cheated or like we were in anything that was set terms.

[Mal]

I hear you.

[Damaris]

Now what I'm saying is you saying women.

[Rory]

Other words.

[Damaris]

I think men are way worse with that. I can speak for myself fucking everybody.

[Rory]

I have definitely not said I've been in the gray area. Women where we were not together and they fuck someone else. And that shit hurt me a lot. But I'm mad, but I can't be mad at her.

[Mal]

Yeah, but men only stay in the gray area because they want to fudge other. Other women.

[Rory]

Yeah, I know. That's why I was in the gray area.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I was also fudgeing other people. But it doesn't take away from the narcissistic ego that I have.

[Mal]

That.

[Rory]

That hurt me when she went and did the same shit I was doing.

[Mal]

But that's what I just said to the marriage. Like, even if it's not clear and.

[Rory]

I'm saying I think men handle that way worse than women do it.

[Damaris]

Like I said, you can be hurt, but you can't sit there and say, man, she cheated on me.

[Rory]

She's fudgeing.

[Damaris]

Ho. She cheated on me. No, she didn't. Y'all never were in a committed relationship.

[Rory]

Now we still going to call.

[Damaris]

But if y'all were, and if y'all were in a committed relationship and she cheated on you, leave. You're not going to get over it. Just leave. Leave.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah, I'm going to get over it.

[Damaris]

Leave.

[Rory]

Because that's always weird, too, when you're in that gray area of talking to somebody and you find out they're fudgeing with someone else and then you try to make it work. Like, for real. Like, all right, cool. We know we was both doing some other. We're in a relationship now that still lingers behind you for a while.

[Mal]

That stink. Like, just stinks.

[Rory]

Just lie to me in the beginning. Yeah, it's just been me.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's kind of a rap.

[Mal]

Once you cheat.

[Julian]

That's not. Yeah. Nah, it's like, bro, just move on. Once you, like, address the 2, 3 month hookup phase and you're like, are you seeing anyone? Just lie.

[Mal]

No, man, don't lie.

[Julian]

No, I'm not saying only lie if you want to continue with that relationship and make it official. Like, if that night is the night you're deciding your relationship or not.

[Rory]

Like, if y'all raw, you can't lie.

[Damaris]

But you can't lie. No, don't lie.

[Rory]

If you roll, you should not be lying. Even if it's not their business and y'all are just having casual sex. As someone that's the no condom advocate.

[Julian]

I was gonna say you lied your ass off. You shouldn't lie.

[Rory]

Oh, no, I've lied before.

[Mal]

I'm.

[Rory]

I'm saying that I'm just Now a reformed 34 year old, and I think that was disgusting behavior that I've done in my past where I've had raw sex with women and not told them I was having raw sex with other women. It's gross. Shouldn't do it. Yeah, sorry for that psa.

[Damaris]

I used to. I used to lie because I know how men love to. Men find strength and knowing that you're like, they're the only one. Like. Or feeling like they're the only one, because once they have a feeling that anybody else is touching you, you turn disgusting to them. Right. That's just the way that men's brains operates. However, as I got older, it's like, no, you don't. You don't own this. The cow. You don't own the cow. You don't own the milk. You don't own shit. Actually, if you want to own it, you can.

[Rory]

But, like, no, technically, in Texas, we do own.

[Damaris]

You.

[Julian]

My rib bombing.

[Rory]

It was a great joke, though.

[Damaris]

Anyway. Yeah, I'm not. No, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna tell. I'm not gonna.

[Rory]

Y'all, that was an amazing joke.

[Damaris]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna rock you to sleep. I'm not gonna rock you to sleep. Be like, oh, yeah, no. Like, it's only you. And this is. No, it could only be you. You better do what you got to.

[Mal]

Do to make his exes.

[Damaris]

They would. They would love to talk to you. And they're actually very. They all love me.

[Rory]

Damaris is right, though.

[Julian]

Could they come in?

[Rory]

A lot of the ego that we have with that type of. Is that we feel like we own that girl.

[Mal]

I never feel like I owned it.

[Rory]

Not, like, legitimately own that girl. But why you're hurt is because you feel like that is yours.

[Julian]

Because I know mad dudes that like that.

[Mal]

You get hurt because you feel like you was lied to.

[Damaris]

Tell me.

[Julian]

The classic guy. The classic guy moves. You hook up with a girl for a minute, like, say, two, three months, whatever, and then you do tell your guy, your homies about her. And there's like, a rapport there. And your guy's like, it's getting serious. Like, what do you think? Like, are you gonna stop hooking up other people? And you're like, I don't know. I'll think about it. Whatever. But then I always ask my friends, do you think she's hooking up with anyone else? And every guy goes, oh, nah, she's not like that. Every guy thinks they're the only guy.

[Rory]

Meanwhile, she wouldn't know such a novices.

[Julian]

It's always not. She wouldn't do that to me. That's the line. And I always laugh. I'm like, fam. Why wouldn't. You're. You're doing it to her. Why wouldn't you do it? Like.

[Damaris]

But they have a point. Because I used to be one of those girls. My homegirls are still those girls where it's like, when they like a guy, they just like that guy. And it's just like, I like him. It's like, he don't. But he's not ready for a relationship. But I just. Girl, he's fudgeing so Many other people. And you're just sitting up there like, just like, well, my man, my man, my man.

[Rory]

Those are the best lovers, man.

[Mal]

I love a stupid talk about. Yeah, yeah.

[Julian]

Talk about the cure for mental health. Men's mental health. That's.

[Rory]

But your friends, Julian, are going to get over that eventually. I was once that young, naive kid looking in the sky thinking that she was only me when we're in that talking face. She's other people. And to what Damaris is saying, you have to get over that ego of, you know, own that's not yours.

[Julian]

Meanwhile, I'm a sicko. In the past, I've seen girls that I'm like, currently or had formerly hooked up with on a date, like in public with another dude. And I'm like, nice. Because then I don't feel like it gets me off the hook in terms of like. You know what I mean?

[Mal]

I saw you and him, you know, walking in the rain.

[Julian]

No, not that one. No, not that. That girl. No.

[Mal]

She's a stone cold gangster.

[Rory]

You need therapy, Julia.

[Mal]

She was staying in this house.

[Julian]

So this.

[Mal]

It slid off with the next thing when her still in your house.

[Rory]

Yo doing shiesty and lying and then figuring out she's doing it so you feel better about yourself is no healing not.

[Julian]

That's not what I said. Now you're doing what the marriage did earlier.

[Mal]

Earlier, you're gaslighting what you're doing. You're doing what you're doing what you cannot be doing.

[Rory]

You said that you like when you see when another girl is going on a date so you feel better about the shitty you're doing while also her.

[Julian]

That's not.

[Mal]

You cannot be doing.

[Julian]

That's not what I'm saying.

[Rory]

So what are you saying?

[Julian]

I'm saying it just like it's. It's her. It's all her eggs aren't in my basket. She's still doing her thing, which is like nice because we're both still living our lives. Even though we have shared, you know, experiences together, we're still secretions doing stuff.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Independently. I like that somebody wrote and acting.

[Mal]

Like y'all not together is got to be some of the craziest ever. We got to do a study on how that.

[Rory]

Pound brothers and arms that.

[Julian]

That has to mental health though it certainly does not.

[Rory]

I'm. I'm a new person. You.

[Mal]

Your mental health is cooked. Julian.

[Damaris]

I actually think Julian's pretty mentally healthy.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Mal]

He just told you he rides his bike 43 miles an hour in a school when he's upset. He rides past every school in the LA at 3.

[Rory]

At 3 o'clock, waiting for a kid.

[Mal]

That crossing guard kid needs to learn. Yeah. That's what Julia does. Mental health.

[Damaris]

But that hookup. Well, to speak to your point, hookup culture, especially raw hookup culture, is, like, really big, especially among, like, our age.

[Mal]

Yeah. The numbers just came out in Atlanta. They down there wilding.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's. I can't. I don't. I'm just not built like that. I can't. I can't do it. But everybody does it. Like, everybody is just everybody. There's no feelings involved and there's no expectations.

[Mal]

There's no. They're suppressing those feelings, which is why they're at home popping perks and oxies and.

[Julian]

See, I don't do that. I'm healed.

[Mal]

No, you just ride your bike really fast.

[Julian]

That's good.

[Mal]

I get it.

[Rory]

You know, vices aren't always just drugs. Right? Like, you could just be chasing the next high with women.

[Mal]

You're like. Maybe your bike is like. It's like telling you something like, where you. Where are you trying to. What journey are you on? Where are you trying to go? What are you. What are you riding away from when you're on your bike?

[Damaris]

White women.

[Mal]

White women.

[Julian]

I don't get how this ended up being a.

[Mal]

All right, I'm sorry, man.

[Julian]

Sorry.

[Mal]

You didn't deserve that. You're not be doing what you're doing.

[Julian]

Wagwan, Delilah, do the fucking campaign dance. Let's go to Patreon. Go.

[Rory]

This was fun. Tour tickets are available now. Rory versus Mall. The campaign trail. Officially 2024.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

We are in Philly. July 25th. Detroit. August 22nd. Chicago. August 25th, London. Two dates. September 11th. Shout out to America. 18th. Toronto. October 17th for Drake's birthday. Atlanta. November 22nd. And we're back in New York for two shows back to back. December 13th and 14th. Tickets are available now. Newroarimal.com yeah, our second shows in New York and London is My Karma's Beautiful. There'll be live music.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Rory]

Mall's gonna invite all of Griselda, and it'll be a blast.

[Mal]

Having a great time. Can't wait to see everybody at the campaign. We'll talk to y'all soon. Enjoy your weekend. Be safe. Any music coming out this weekend? I feel like it's music coming this weekend.

[Rory]

The Kendrick album that you guys said Daylight was putting out.

[Julian]

That no Worries album's coming out yet. Why, Lord.

[Rory]

Oh, oh.

[Julian]

And Tams.

[Rory]

Oh, I'M staying up at midnight.

[Mal]

Oh, Rory.

[Julian]

Yellow Wolf.

[Damaris]

Oh, Rory. Yellow Wolf is.

[Mal]

So that's his guy?

[Julian]

No, because, like, Eminem's active, so he's warming up his artist, too. You know, they're all. They're all dropping.

[Rory]

I think Yellow Wolf is my guy.

[Mal]

Me? Yeah. No.

[Rory]

Okay. Thank you.

[Mal]

So. So.

[Rory]

You got another 30 minutes.

[Mal]

Ski Master Slump. God. No worries. And Tim's Born in the Wild. Definitely want to check Tim's album out.

[Rory]

Her tiny desk. Never mind. I was about.

[Mal]

It was great.

[Rory]

I was about to say something. Gross.

[Mal]

Your tiny desk.

[Damaris]

Ew. Ew. All right.

[Julian]

All right. Patreon this game. Bye.

[Mal]

No worry and mouth.