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Rory
Philadelphia. We will be in your City live on July 25th at City Winery.
Mal
Yes, sir.
Rory
City of brotherly Love. Cheesesteaks, State property. Meek dream chasers. I'm just using all, like, the buzzwords for Philadelphia right now.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
Joey Merlino.
Damaris
Go Eagles.
Mal
Go Eagles.
Rory
I mean, I guess to sell tickets, I'll say, go, Eagles.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
That's how committed I am to the city of Philadelphia. Newroarimal.com Tickets are available right now. Philadelphia, July 25th, City Winery. We will see you there. Where do you want to begin, Mo? Your silence is saying so much right now, scaring me. Yeah, I'm a little petrified right now.
Damaris
You haven't said a word. We've been in the studio for two hours.
Rory
We've been in the studio for two hours, chilling. You've not said a word yet.
Mal
Well, I'm. I'm, like, a little under the weather, so I'm just kind of saving my voice.
Rory
Okay.
Mal
But we spoke all night, didn't we? We was on Discord all night.
Rory
Yeah, we was on Discord.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Our Patreon subscribers got to watch you watch Kendrick, which was fun.
Mal
I don't know if they watched me. I didn't have my camera on.
Rory
Well, I'd like to get into the mind of Maul in the last 48 hours, because I'm sure your mentions, comments, text messages, everything was running amok, I would imagine.
Mal
No, not really.
Rory
In leading up to this Kendrick and Friends show. No, it was pretty much just DJ Head and you that people were really looking for. Opinions of what?
Mal
Shout out to DJ Head. That was a great look for him last night.
Rory
It's a great set.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Shout out to you, J. Yeah. But I feel like that's kind of like your arch nemesis, even though you guys are cool. Because it is really, if you look at it, it's DJ Head with TDE and it's you with ovo, and I feel like you guys are just the Clash. It's the verses.
Mal
Is it?
Rory
Yeah. So now we need to do a show in New York where you bring out every New York artist ever. Mm.
Mal
Okay. Giving me a whack show.
Rory
Was that a shot at New York?
Mal
Yeah. New York music is trash right now.
Rory
No, but you could do, like, the. The legacy shit.
Damaris
No, you do the legacy stuff. Yeah. You bring out Nas and then Jay.
Mal
Oh. And that's the show. Like, you ain't got to bring nobody else after that.
Rory
You bring out Nicky. That's. That's you.
Mal
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's the show. That's it. It's over.
Rory
That's you.
Mal
Those three.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Show's over.
Rory
DJ Head was dressed like his iPhone was overheating.
Mal
Wait, what did you.
Rory
My brain's weird.
Mal
Okay.
Rory
But yes, your phone was not ringing off the hook going into the show, was it?
Mal
No, no, it was a couple mentions on. On, like, Twitter and Instagram and like, that people saying. I was. I was scared. I'm like, why would I be scared at this moment? I don't. I don't understand what people's thinking was. But overall, I think the. The event was dope. Um, it was good to see that many LA artists. A few that I know. Like, I've been listening to their music for a while and seeing them have been on the platform as big as last night being on Amazon, it was. It was dope. To see those artists get that look, that was fire.
Rory
Yo, Kendrick really might be the boogeyman.
Mal
Why?
Rory
You sound, like, really humbled right now?
Mal
Because I said it was like, yeah.
Rory
Just the tone and. Yeah, it feels like he really is the boogeyman.
Mal
Or did he just try share his platform with some dope artists last night?
Rory
He did his stuff.
Mal
Yeah, he did his stuff. But it was a good show, though. Overall, it was a good show. Kendrick set was a little. You know what Kendrick set felt like.
Rory
Okay.
Mal
Remember when Chris Rock's comedy special came out after the Will Smith slap?
Rory
One of my favorite A listers. Yeah.
Mal
Remember how we watched it and we didn't really care about all the other jokes. We just wanted to hear him talk about Will Smith.
Rory
Yeah. I could see the masses wanted. I like Chris Rock, believe it or not, and I was excited for his material, but of course I wanted to. I wanted to.
Mal
We felt like, get to the Will Smith.
Rory
What's the Closer?
Mal
That's what watching Kendrick last night felt like. It was like, all right, seen Kendrick perform, went to the Mr. Morale show, seen him do some of these songs live, get to the. The climax, the moment that everybody is on Amazon or at the forum for.
Rory
I mean, he started with Euphoria, though. I feel like he came out the gate with what we were looking for.
Damaris
I think he did a good job of sprinkling in hits with the disc records. He kind of broke it up. He did Euphoria to Rory's point first, and then six, seven songs later, did 6:16 in LA and then found time to do like that, which in this case counts towards the beef.
Mal
It was dope seeing black hippie on stage too.
Rory
Yeah, it was great to see them.
Damaris
All together and Then close with Not Like Us five times.
Rory
Schoolboy Q look great. Love that entire portion. My actual only like, real hate of the set was actually the beginning after Euphoria. Amazing start. Love that. But this is going to sound crazy. DNA element. All right. Swimming Pools. I kind of didn't need that from Kendrick. Kind of to your point of like, get to the shits. I was there for the black hippie reunion. I want to see Kyle Greens happen with him in Schoolboy J. Rock Money Trees. Before that. I don't need your fucking biggest hits. I did not need Swimming Pools last night. I think it actually would have been cooler as the Pulitzer Prize winner to do like some ill B side shit in between these diss records. Like, did we really need DNA Element?
Damaris
Yes.
Julian
Yeah. Rory. Most people wanted to see that.
Damaris
And I argued this.
Rory
He's performed it so many times that I just. I just don't think it needed to happen.
Julian
He also has a bunch of new fans.
Damaris
Thank you. Thank you. He gained so much more attention from this beef. He needs to play hits. So we're talking about fans.
Rory
Somebody that had the. One of the highest grossing tours ever last year.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
Is now sitting with his management going, like, we should really give him swimming pools for these new fans.
Damaris
Don't Platinum.
Rory
He should have done Sing About Me in between to show that he's the greatest rapper of this modern era.
Damaris
No, that's.
Rory
And then go into your dis records that Sing About Me is an awful record for this set.
Julian
He's an awful idea. Not awful record.
Damaris
It's a great record. But for this set list. Yes.
Rory
How you're saying.
Damaris
Okay, so your argument is he's an arena artist. He doesn't need to gain more. You can always gain more fans. You can always become a bigger artist.
Rory
Of course. But I'm saying he's not someone that's really in need of searching for new fans that he needs to do Swimming Pools.
Damaris
It's not a need. It's just. It's just smart. It's just how to continue to become a bigger artist, a more impressionable person music.
Julian
And I'm sure that LA people that were there that bought tickets and actually went to the show were very happy to hear Swimming Pools. I'm sure they had a ball.
Damaris
I had a ball.
Julian
I don't think he was doing it for Amazon Prime. I think he was doing it for the people that were there.
Rory
I. I think LA probably looks at Swimming Pools as Kendrick's worst single.
Damaris
Also, who is la? We were joking on the crowd in The Discord chat, It was just 90 white people in there.
Mal
It's California.
Julian
Yeah, California's like 90 white people.
Damaris
Well, the most is country's white, which I argued last night as well.
Rory
Like, that's when I knew the discord was going left. When we started arguing about the census report on Juneteenth.
Damaris
Well, they were saying rap is all. It's for black people. It's not. Rap is popular music. Popular music is for the populace. The populace is. 58 of this country is white people. White people love rap. That's the hard.
Rory
It's not even harsh reality.
Damaris
It's the reality.
Mal
White people have swimming pools.
Rory
That is funny.
Damaris
And they use them.
Rory
I know I'm gonna be painted as the hater for me just being mad and nitpicking swimming pools. I just really feel Kendrick is one of those artists that doesn't need to do that type of shit. He does whatever the fuck he wants to do. That's why I love Kendrick Lamar. That's why I thought it was weird that he did some of the bigger hits. I thought he could have taken that time. He just went on tour. I think he could have taken this time, in this moment to do some B side shit that proved how good of a rapper he is.
Julian
Yeah. I keep saying he just went on tour. That's what, like, what, two, three years ago?
Rory
Two years ago. But he was on tour for over a year. Like, you also have to include, like, Europe and. Yeah, he just got home relatively recently.
Mal
I think I understand what Rory's saying. I think you. You wanted to hear some of, like, the deeper cuts on the albums. Yeah. That you probably don't see him perform a lot.
Rory
Cause I understand this was a victory lap. Let's call it what it is. This was a victory lap. Nail in the coffin. I won this beef. We think he's putting an album out, but it's not like one came out last night. And this was a rollout for that. This was a moment for a victory lap. I just don't think he needed to do the regular shit that he's already done. Like, really make it a moment. Do not like us 15 times. I thought that was a genius move. But if we're gonna make this a moment for real. Yeah, give me some shit from section 80. Like, really make this a Kendrick moment. That's for the fans.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Not just a tour set that you did already.
Mal
I think it was a.
Rory
Because I watched with Mr. Morale, like, he did deep cuts in that entire thing. I. I don't know I get it. It was a party, so play swimming pools.
Mal
But I just think the bigger thing is like, what now? I think that last night we probably got the first look at what is probably going to be a continuous thing for Kendrick. Maybe it's a Lang festival, PG Fest or something like that. Because it felt like a festival last night. It was, it felt like a, you know, opportunity for a lot of LA artists to get seen on the stage by amount of people that they probably never performed in front of. It felt like a summer jam type of thing for la.
Rory
Yeah, for sure.
Mal
So it'll be interesting to see what Kendrick does as far as business wise with this type of show moving forward. Like, I don't think this, I mean, if I was, you know, part of his business team, this wouldn't be the last time we do something like this. Yeah, obviously it's something that I think they can continue to do maybe every summer, every Juneteenth, maybe something like that. Overall, the end of the show, having everybody on stage at that time, you know, a lot of people that have a lot of history personally with, you know, different areas of California, different gangs and things like that. To see a lot of these artists on stage together last night, Juneteenth, you know, beef aside, obviously that was a dope moment for California and I do hope it translates over. I don't. I hope it's not just a last night thing. I hope it translates further and you see more camaraderie like that. You see more people that historically probably wouldn't fuck with each other because of, you know, just history. Um, but to see them all on one stage last night having fun, you know, dancing together and things like that, I think that's a dope idea. Great energy and I would, I hope that it's not just a one and done thing. I think that Kendrick and his team should definitely look into doing something like this every year for California.
Damaris
You know what I learned from this? Watching this? There's no more powerful unifier than mutual hate, mutual shared hatred. Because this, because to your point, M, these are, these are gangs from all over California.
Julian
This was not, this was not.
Rory
This is not hate for Drake. That they're all on the stage like we're going to end gang violence because we hate Drake. That's not what my point is.
Damaris
This moment wouldn't happen. Had the whole beef not happened, this, this show wouldn't have been a thing.
Julian
No, it wouldn't have, but it could have been. It wouldn't have been, but that's my Point.
Damaris
We need the catalyst. The catalyst being the, this all like, I'm fine. We won't pin it all cumulatively on Drake, but that's a big part of this whole thing. So if this, if that, if the beef didn't happen, this moment would have never happened.
Rory
I don't. I guess that's kind of unfair to say because I don't know what Kendrick or all of the leaders that were on that stage do behind the scenes that we don't know about. Like, yes, yes, this happened because not like us existed and the rap beef happened. I don't think Kendrick does this show unless Drake beef happen. So, yes, I agree with you there, but I, I can't put it past everyone on that stage that they haven't been working on this idea for years. Kendrick's preached about this since the beginning of his career about unifying. Like, this is pretty much what Nipy was doing in the public before his, his passing of trying to unify gangs in la. So I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about it. I just wouldn't put it past these gentlemen that this was not a conversation that's been going on forever. I think they didn' decide, yo, fuck Drake, let's get on stage and do this.
Mal
I think it's two things could be true. I think that, I don't, I don't think that we get this show without the Drake beef because we never got the show before the Drake beef. Right? So that, but using it, using what it started as to then unify a city and, you know, a state. I think that it's a, a great move. It's like, yeah, we know what it's rooted in. We know what this, the energy is. It's obviously derived from a battle with one of the biggest artists in the world and Kendrick somehow turned it into the entire California versus that artist. Yeah, but you can't be mad at that. It's like, okay, cool, if that's what it is. But the bottom line is he used that moment and that energy that derived from something that could have been negative or could have been something that turned into something that is obviously you don't want to see. He used that to unite a city and to unite people that probably wouldn't have been in the same on the same stage with each other because they never were on the same stage with each other. So I think that it's a genius move. I think that it's a great move. I think Kendrick wanted this moment. Like you said, they probably spoke about Doing something like this behind the scenes and just used these last two months and things that occurred and records that would create. Created. He used all of that energy and turned it into something that he probably has been trying to figure out how to do for some years now. So, you know, beef. Like I said, beef aside, between him and Drake, what Kendrick did last night was dope for. For California.
Rory
And from what we understand, no incidents happened backstage at all. Like, that's incredible. The stage backstage, nothing happened. Yeah, that's incredible. With. With this scenario.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
My only. My only other issue, outside of swimming pools, which we talked about a few episodes ago, I don't really like this narrative that Kendrick, DJ Head, and the west coast has put on the rest of us, that we hate the West Coast. Since when? We love y'all. He even said in this record, people. People hate the west coast. And I'm fine with it. DJ Head was talking about that, too. We love y'all. You guys make incredible music. There's never been a time where I felt anyone has hated the West Coast.
Mal
I mean, that's just. I think that that's something.
Rory
That weird narrative to me.
Mal
Yeah. I think that's something that, you know artists. Cause it's not just. Well, if this was a artist from Atlanta, y'all don't fuck with the South. You know what I mean? It's like, that's just something in a moment that I think artists say regardless of where they're from. But I don't put too much credence on that. The people I know love California, love going to California, love visiting. I mean, Dr. Dre was there. Who don't know Dr. Dre. That's probably 40 years of hip hop right there in itself from the West Coast. So I don't put too much credence into that.
Rory
Maybe I'm out of touch. And that is something that's been happening but for my entire life. I have always loved the West Coast. They make incredible music in every era.
Mal
I think that it's just maybe, you know, because a lot of the artists haven't had mainstream success. A lot of the artists that were there last night, maybe. I don't know if, you know, it comes from that, but it's. That's just like I said, if this was an artist from the south, they would have say, oh, yeah, I don't fuck with the South. And it's like, what? Like, who doesn't fuck with the South? Like, so, you know, I don't. I don't. I don't put too Much.
Rory
Only Three Stacks had a point when he said that after that, we've loved Atlanta.
Mal
I think before that, we loved Atlanta.
Rory
Word.
Mal
You know what I'm saying? Like, I just. You know, I don't. I don't put too much into that. I don't put too much stock into artists. I think you almost are programmed to say that in certain moments. Like when it feels like it's, again, a battle or beef, it's like, yo, this is, you know, the West Coast. This is, you know, when Snoop and Suge was on stage for the Source Awards. You know what I'm saying? Y'all don't got love for the West Coast.
Rory
Like, yeah, but that means. That was. That was street shit.
Mal
Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, just that statement, though, that statement in itself is like, who at that time, I'm speaking for myself. Y'all were pretty young.
Rory
Yeah, it was.
Mal
You could not go anywhere in New York and not hear doggy style playing. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm just talking about. For me, like, I. I'm talking about somebody that was, like, in school, Walkman, walking around listening to Snoop, listening to Dre. In that moment, I was like, what is he talking now? In the room, in that room. I don't know what. I wasn't at the Source Awards, so I don't know what the energy was in that room, but outside that room, I was like, I can't walk anywhere in the Bronx and not hear Gin and Juice right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what are you talking about?
Rory
And I mean, I thought the whole point of why Big was so important was cause finally New York had an artist when the west coast had everything on. Fucking Ready to Die is a West coast album. That's all fucking funk music.
Mal
Yeah, but, you know, I don't put too much stock into that. But overall, I do think that, you know, what Kendrick did last night was a really, really dope, dope look for all of those artists that was able to touch that. Shout out to Blue Blux, Kent Blue Bucks Clan. Shout out to Dom Kennedy. Shout out to Problem Tyler. Shout out to Tyler. Shout out to west side Boogie. Our homie love it. Shout out to somebody else that touched the stage last night.
Julian
Shout out to Tommy the Clown. First of all, as I was a crump kid, so just.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
And people took that tweet that I tweeted the wrong way. I think they thought I was the.
Rory
Domestic violence one or the no cuz.
Mal
I said Tommy the Clown. I said Tommy the Clown had a longer set than Tyler the Creator.
Rory
Yeah. Which was accurate.
Mal
It was accurate, but it wasn't to shit on Tommy the Clown. I was just like, I would have loved to see Tyler like get a couple more records off. Like, that's all. Like, I know where Tommy, trust me, I've been to la. I've been to parties where Tommy the Clown pull up. And I always spoke about. I spoke about it years ago. I said, yo, we. New York needs some shit like that. It's like the ice cream man pulling up and just giving kids ice cream. Except all of these kids hop out and start dancing. Like, that's some of the dopest shit ever. So that wasn't no disrespect to Tommy the Clown. People would take shit know out of context sometime.
Rory
I think it was a really cool moment for Tyler. And this is outside looking in east coast perspective, I could be wrong. I've always felt like the west coast really never validated Tyler as one of their own. He and he may have been done some of that on his own as well. Like he separated himself. But I've always felt even in like barbershop hip hop debates with west coast friends, they don't claim Tyler as theirs. So to me, this was a cool moment for Tyler.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Like he is from la. I feel like people miss that.
Mal
Is he from la? Is he from California?
Rory
He's from Hawthorne Ladera Heights. Like that area.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
Yeah, he's.
Rory
Yeah, well, he's from la. Like, for real? For real. I just don't think it's really ever connected with that LA scene. Like he's always been on the outskirts.
Mal
He's not the prototypical LA artist. He's not.
Rory
But at the same time he is. So he's so LA at the exact same time?
Mal
Yeah. Oh, no, for sure, for sure.
Rory
So I thought that was really cool for him to be in.
Mal
He was one of the people I was surprised to actually see. Honestly, I didn't know he was gonna be there. Like, he wasn't one of the names when we were throwing names around, he wasn't one of the names that people was like, Tyler, the creator's gonna be there.
Damaris
A couple set lists and photos leaked, like from the event themselves. And his name or face wasn't on any of the stuff. So he might have just been like a last minute edition.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Pulled up.
Mal
Either way, it was dope. It was dope to see him.
Damaris
Great moment.
Mal
Touch that stage.
Damaris
We were talking about euphoria in the. The set list. I just want to kind of go back here. He did say in Euphoria, we, we on Discord were speculating if he would change lines or maybe even add a new verse or whatever. He did change one line on Euphoria and he said, give me Tupac's ring back and I might give you a little respect. Thoughts on that?
Rory
I mean, cool Euphoria was also like a little all over the place. And I feel for him. I. I have no idea what it'd be like to rap a six minute song for the first time at the Forum. But like he up Euphoria a lot.
Mal
Yeah. I mean he probably forgot some of the verses.
Rory
Yeah. Which I'm giving him all the grace in the world.
Mal
Yeah. That's tough to remember all of those.
Rory
Bars and shout out to like Mike Carson and everyone that was doing the creatives because they had the fireworks that for specific moments. And I could tell they was freestyling because Kendrick just kept going back to other parts of it. Like Kendrick was all over the place. But that's, that's why I don't think much of that line mattered too much. It was more that Kendrick just kept trying to find his place in the entire song.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Okay, then what about let's go through people that were there. They panned to LeBron a bunch, obviously. Westbrook, DeMar DeRozan, they joined him on stage. Whitney was there with their children. Dave Free was also in the building.
Rory
You mean his business partner that was producing the show?
Damaris
Well, you know, if they have that much bad of the blood, then who's to say who else? I mean, all of LA was there. So I looked at. Huh.
Mal
All of la.
Damaris
Most of la.
Mal
Most of la. Most of la. Yeah, some of la.
Rory
All of LA can fit in the Forum.
Mal
Yeah, of course they can. You know that.
Damaris
But I don't know, I look at that and I think, I try to look at that through the lens of like Drake has to be harboring some resentment because these are obviously people that he's collaborated with, worked closely with and probably respected and might still respect some of them, but I don't know.
Rory
Well, we, we were debating on Discord. I thought it was an L when YG came out. I think that's an L to Drake. If you start Family Matters, which is an incredible disrecord that YG is your man's and then he comes out at the disc concert against you and then is also singing along to Not Like Us at the end. To me that is an L. He also performed a song that Drake Was on. That's an L to me. In the scope of this beef, if we're placing L's on each person. Yeah, that's. That's an L. If I'm Drake, I would feel a fucking way too. But then if I'm yg, why did you even bring me into this? Why'd you add me to family matters?
Damaris
Because he. That's his guy.
Rory
Yeah, but I got nothing to do with this. Leave me the alone.
Julian
And also, I wouldn't even take, I mean, me personally, if I was Drake. I wouldn't take that personal. YG is like the, like, in the picture next to, like, Cali, there should be a picture of, like, yg. He was never gonna miss a moment like this.
Rory
You know, he shined his best church shoes for this.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
So, like, I wouldn't. If I meet personally if I was Drake, and I'm sure he's not, I wouldn't take that personal at all. Because that's more about LA than this beef. It's like a moment.
Mal
I don't think he takes it personal. I think he understands what this is. This is a moment for Cali, for la. I don't think he's that strung out on his ego to where it's like, nah, you better not go up there with Kendrick. I don't think it's anything like that. I think that I said it. I think in the beginning of this whole beef, I was like, it's funny the things you think that an artist that's entrenched in a battle like this would probably be doing at home and what they're going through. And then when you find out it's just a regular day and they just chilling and not worried about shit at all. It's like, oh. So I'm more concerned about this than the actual artists going through it. I think this is the same shit. I don't think Drake cared about YG being on stage or he's upset that YG was there. I don't think that the one person that was notably missing that I think is something to talk about is Game. I think that's Next point.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
The one person that was missing from the show, and I've been talking to some of my peoples out in Cali last night and, you know, just going back and forth and just. It was something to the extent of. I think that I don't know if. Does Cali with Game I. I wouldn't.
Rory
Know and wouldn't even want to speculate in that regard.
Mal
Only reason I ask that Is because even during the cat, though, even during the battle, Game had posted. He was. What was he watching? A Drake video. He's watching something along those lines. He had posted something that he was watching. I don't know if it was a Drake video, something he had posted. He was in the crib watching TV and everybody was like, yo, so that's what you're gonna post during this, this battle. And things like. And even then you go back to that post, it's a lot of people under the comments saying Cali turned their back on Game a long time ago. A Compton turned their back on Game a long time ago. And things like that. And these are things that I never knew and never heard. And I was surprised to hear some of this shit. And I was like, really? Like I was out the know on a lot of that shit. But the fact that Game wasn't on stage and he wasn't there last night adds some type of validity to those things. Like, do they fuck with Game?
Rory
I mean, he was vocal during this entire thing. Even dissed Rick Ross for Drake. Like that all started because of Drake. He was defending Drake. But everyone that even kind of played the middle YG included because I'm sure he's still cool with Drake, was invited and was on stage. So I, I think it's years and years of Game rubbing people the wrong way. I don't think it was just this one Drake situation. I think it has a lot to do with how Game has moved in the last 20 years. And again, I have no idea about west coast politics, but I can add. And Game is left out of a lot of west coast shit when it comes.
Mal
Which is, which is crazy because he's easily one of the biggest artists out of the west coast ever. So for him, Game is one of.
Rory
My favorite rappers of all time. I know that sounds crazy when you hear it. Game is one of my favorite rappers. He does not have a bad album.
Mal
He.
Rory
He also has a classic album which a lot of rappers don't have. He brought. He brought. Yeah, he might have to. He brought the west coast back single handedly. But I think just how he moves people are like, I don't really know about you, bro. Yeah, but I mean the gang politics shit. I'm just saying, like period. I think Game rubs people the wrong way.
Mal
Yeah. But a night like last night, I think a lot of things, a lot of people that was on that stage have rubbed each other the wrong way over, over the years.
Damaris
Yeah. Not in particular to this incident. Like this was. Yeah, but everybody on the Beef.
Mal
Yeah, but everybody last night wasn't there as a unification. On the Beef signal is Game and Drake.
Julian
I mean, Game and Drake. Sorry. Is game and Dr. Dre beefing? Were they ever beefing at a time?
Rory
Yes, at all times. You never know. I think Game and apologies for putting this on his jacket and not being a fucking psychiatrist. I think Game is bipolar. I think Game is autistic.
Mal
You love. I think diagnosing people, man. I do that a lot.
Rory
I think. I think Kanye and Game, we need a lot.
Mal
Somebody to keep it. Keep a track of how many people Rory has diagnosed.
Damaris
Psychology book.
Mal
Yeah. Like, we need, like, he's diagnosed at least four, like, icons with, like. Oh, it's.
Rory
I think. I think. I think Game and Kanye are extremely similar. Just one is a pyu and one is, like, an artsy guy, so he gets more passes. We forgive Kanye Moore for a lot of shit. Game is the same. He's just a fucking blood, so we don't give him the same grace. Game has done a lot of fuck. Shit. He's insane. I think he's mentally ill, but he's also an incredible artist, and I think that has a lot to do with why he's not invited to any of these things. I think he's done a lot of shit behind the scenes where people are like, yo, I can't deal with his brain.
Mal
He.
Rory
You never know what you're going to get with Game. Yeah, but he's been bipolar since he came out. What are you laughing about?
Damaris
No, I was just gonna play. I was gonna do illegal. These thoughts are. Rory and only Rory's a.
Mal
He's bipolar and he's autistic and he's. What else?
Rory
No one has been more of a supporter vocally of Game than me. I told Jay Z to his face that Game's a better rapper than Rick Ross. When we argued, this is how I. With Game. Like that.
Mal
He's a blood.
Rory
He is just.
Mal
He's a. He's a bipolar.
Rory
I just think he's bipolar. Yeah.
Mal
Autistic. Yes. Something else you said Piru. No, I said that already.
Damaris
The.
Rory
The video Autistic pirate.
Damaris
The video you guys were referencing was him on his story, listening to this was on April 16th, by the way. He was playing energy. And then I guess he wrapped along to the line. I got a. I got rap niggas that I gotta act like I like, so.
Mal
And I said that in one of our chats.
Damaris
This is in the middle of the beef.
Rory
Oh, there's too Much of a wild card, man.
Mal
I said that in the chat this morning because we was talking about game in the chat with. With Drama and them.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
And I said I think the game wasn't there last night because he probably doesn't want to be a part of what he feels like is fake shit.
Rory
And I think game is with all the fake shit.
Mal
But. All what fake shit, though?
Rory
I think he's totally fine with the fake. Like, he's done it his whole career again. He's a wild card. You never know what side he's on, what he's going to say, how he's feeling. Yeah. I think game is with all the fake.
Mal
Okay.
Rory
And I know it sounds like disrespectful, but. Because I don't know the man personally, but.
Mal
Yeah, you don't know the game personally.
Rory
I've never met the game.
Mal
You sound like. You sound like you talk to him all the time. You just diagnose, like, three personality disorders.
Rory
I'd love to be. I'd love to be friends with Game.
Mal
I thought you was talking like you.
Rory
Can'T observe people and think after 20 years of a public figure that you could have some idea that maybe they're not mentally stable. Yeah.
Mal
Yeah, but that's. That's. That goes without.
Rory
Don't make me sound distance, because I know it's up to put that on someone's jacket, but I do it a lot. I know he's as Burgers all the way down the checklist.
Damaris
Gorgeous.
Mal
Asperger's bipolar.
Damaris
He's adding things.
Mal
Yeah. You know, all right, I get it.
Rory
Uh, he's a Gemini. I don't know.
Mal
Yeah, we.
Damaris
We briefly address Malz.
Mal
The. The.
Damaris
The DV tweet. Um, did you want to ma. Talk about the. This. The hypocrisy in this or. Or your thoughts in that moment? Because you did speak about it a little bit in the discord.
Julian
Dr. Dre got a weird case. Why is he around?
Mal
Oh, the DV set.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Which DV set was lit?
Damaris
Currently on our screen here.
Mal
Yeah, I mean, listen, man, Everybody's Crip walking and hooting and hollering to certified pedophile, which I think is crazy. I can't say this DV set is lit. Everybody's screaming a minor.
Rory
Blood and Crips coming together over a pedophile anthem is hilarious.
Mal
So that's cool. Amazon gave Kendrick a crazy bag for last night surrounded by a pedophile record. Right. Damn.
Damaris
I didn't even think about. Sorry, just sidestep. There's no way Drake works with Amazon in the future, right? No, there's no way. You don't.
Mal
Yeah, I don't get into that.
Rory
But Tim and Kendrick have a relationship well before the straight beef. Like, they've always done stuff together. Even Mr. Morale. Amazon and Kendrick have had a great relationship because Tim is from Compton. Like, that's always going to be that way. I don't think Drake's going to. With them moving forward. But this wasn't like a spite. The way people have the conspiracy that Spotify hates Drake. That's why we get Not Like Us even when we're listening to, like, Japanese jazz music. And then all of a sudden, I get. All of a sudden I'm listening to Not Like Us out of. No, I'm listening to Baby Shark. And then it goes into Not Like Us.
Mal
Yeah, they gonna push it so.
Damaris
Well, it kind of.
Rory
I don't think that's the case with Amazon because. Because Tim and Kendrick have always had a really good relationship. That's Compton.
Mal
Yeah, Yeah, I get it.
Rory
But to the dv, I'm not here to give you pushback. I'm fine with saying Dr. Dream, the legend that he is, the genius that he is, is a piece of. I know it's. It's taboo to say that Dr. Dre is a piece of.
Mal
Man, you can't go to LA no more. That's it. That's it.
Rory
I stay in Western Illinois.
Mal
No more saddle rants for you.
Rory
Never mind. Dr. Dre is a pretty good guy, man. What. What did that woman do to him to make him react that way?
Mal
Yeah, man. Yeah, but no, that tweet was just, you know, y'all sitting.
Rory
I say, Roy, Roy, when I'm the only one that will say Dr. Dre's a piece of shit that beats women.
Julian
Yes, I know, and I appreciate that.
Rory
On a public platform.
Julian
Stop yelling at me. I appreciate you saying it.
Mal
You about to catch this DV set. About to be crazy.
Rory
What the fuck you trying to say to me right now?
Mal
Hey, this DV set right here is wild.
Rory
Stop with me.
Mal
This DV pod is lit.
Julian
Like.
Mal
Yeah, but people was mad that I tweeted that. Like, y'all niggas are sitting here doing the merry go round to certified pedophile. I'm sorry, you is. You is. You is jumping up in Westbrook shaking his ass. All these. All you niggas up here. I say the DV set is fire. And N is like, yo, you corny. You glazing. You a dick rider.
Damaris
What?
Julian
Shaking his ass Is so funny.
Mal
You know Russ going to dance. He do that at the game, before the game. You know he going to do that at the Forum. I ain't mad at it, but niggas can't be mad at me for tweeting. This DV set is crazy. What are we talking about?
Rory
The only pushback I'll give you is I don't know that. That's a fact about Kendrick. We know it's a fact about Dr. Dre. I don't know that.
Mal
Okay? People don't know. People don't know. It's a fact about Drake being a pedophile. That didn't stop Amazon from giving this $10 million last night. Did that stop Amazon from giving this a bag last night? And everybody's sitting around. We was on Discord watching this.
Rory
I was watching a pedophile anthem with my daughter.
Mal
This is what I'm saying. So Amazon, so now want to pick and choose what they're like. Get out of here with that. People don't understand what I do when I sit here. All I do is mirror the shit that y'all on. That's what y'all like. Okay, cool. I'm just gonna show y'all, like, you know, this is the same shit over here. It's the same shit. But the fact that y'all like that, and I'm saying okay, but I think this is dope. Oh, you glazing. You a dick rider. How? This is certified DV. That's certified. Dr. Drake's case was years ago. I know he's probably a different man. I get it. But it happened. We ain't gonna act like it didn't happen. I'm old enough to remember.
Rory
It happened more than once.
Mal
I'm old enough to remember. I'm old enough to remember, right? Cool. But now y'all sitting up here dancing the certified pedophile, and there ain't no certification. But I'm a glazer.
Julian
Okay, I'm on your side more.
Mal
I'm just saying, man. I'm just trying to. I'm. Listen. All I'm trying to do is show that niggas pick and choose sides and what they want to support and what they like. Why I can't pick and choose what I like? Why I got to be glazing when I pick who I like?
Julian
I also feel like.
Mal
But it ain't glazing where you niggas are shaking y'all ass to. Certified pedophile.
Rory
You got to glaze what everyone likes.
Mal
And when he dope, you Niggas is twerking and shit. I can't.
Rory
Like, it was cool camera angles when they did it.
Mal
Like, you know, say all the girls shaking. They would twerking a. If Drake DM'd you bitches right now, Y'all would run.
Rory
Y'all would say separate.
Mal
Y'all would tell y'all meniscus running to the studio to go. Go see that. You would tell your fucking Achilles to go running.
Rory
Like, we never thought Horace had loyalty.
Mal
No, I'm. I'm just. All I'm saying is people got mad at my tweet yet we looking at a sold out Amazon event about a pedophilia record. What are like, what the fuck is the world? What's going on in the world right now? Am I in the fucking matrix or something?
Rory
I had a lot of text messages after your. Your tweet.
Mal
Good.
Rory
And people wanting me to give you pushback.
Mal
Good, good. Fuck them.
Rory
And I'm here to support you because I agree.
Julian
I do think that it's extremely tone deaf of Kendrick to bring Dr. Dre up on the stage when you were accused of the same thing that everyone.
Mal
Knows that doctor it ain't tone deaf. It ain't tone deaf. Niggas don't care. Niggas don't care. That's the bottom line. It ain't tone deaf.
Rory
And they'll care if the masses decide that he's a piece of shit.
Mal
And the masses won't decide that because.
Julian
The masses don't really.
Mal
Because the masses don't care. Because the masses. You know what? The masses do the same. So when you start having them, you see how the east side of the room got weird and awkward. Niggas don't want to have them conversations. Niggas want to shake ass all night. No. Well, let's talk about what's going on. Let's talk about what we seeing right now. Y'all don't want to have that conversation. Y'all just want to have fun. Yo, Drake is dead. Your man is finished. How much OVO paying you? What? What are y'all talking about? Paying me? Paying me for what? It's my opinion. Nah, that's not what's happening here. I'm just laughing at all this. I have fun with this because don't want to have real conversations.
Rory
People pick and choose. Because if Kendrick would have brought out Puff last night, what do you think the world would have said?
Mal
What you mean what they would have said?
Rory
Amazon would have taken the bag, they would have cut the stream.
Julian
They would have cut the stream for sure.
Mal
Would they?
Rory
But yes.
Mal
I don't know, man.
Julian
I believe so, yeah.
Mal
I don't know.
Rory
The masses have decided that Puff is canceled.
Mal
Dre, on the other hand, Puff is canceled right now.
Rory
He gets an applause when he goes on stage.
Mal
He's canceled right now.
Julian
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if niggas reached.
Mal
Puff is canceled right now. What's up?
Rory
When he finds Jesus, then he'll just be forgiven and that. We already know that.
Mal
All I'm saying is. All I'm saying is we've seen this before, and we've seen enough or I've seen enough to know that in moments, yeah, people will be like, oh, that's fucked up. He. You know, that's what you did is foul. But it's only some that's gonna stand on that forever. And me included. I've sat next to niggas I never should have sat next to. I recognize that I'm a sucker for that, though. And I got some learning and some growing to do about myself from that. But at least I'm man enough to sit here and say that, though. You see what I'm saying?
Julian
Amen.
Mal
But niggas don't wanna have them conversations. So I'm gonna let n continue to stream Amazon shit and have fun. Shout out to Kendrick, though. Like I said, I do think last night. No, all jokes aside, I do think last night was beautiful for California. I do think that Kendrick has been trying to figure out a way to do something like that for a long time. So it was beautiful. But again, I hope that this translates and continues away from last night. I don't want to open Instagram next week and see that one of these gentlemen that was on stage last night met an untimely demise. Tired of that. I don't want to wake up and hear that it's all kind of shit going on in the streets, you know, that we done been through and seen. If last night was able to happen, then we can make that happen again. We can continue to have that energy, continue to have this type of support and continue to come together for shit like this. Because at the end of the day, we all from this culture called hip hop. Whether it's a beef or not, we all from this culture of hip hop. We grew up in this shit. We live in these streets, we live in these communities. And if we gonna come together for something like last night, then let's let that translate over into when we go home and back to our communities, back to our schools and Things like that. Like, let that energy continue. That's all I'm saying. Don't let it just be a moment, you know, and then that's it. And we go back to regularly scheduled bullshit. Let's continue this shit. Like, let's continue to do dope shit like that. Let's do this shit every year. Let's do this shit in different cities. Let's do something like this in the South. Let's do something like this in New York. Let's do something like this, you know, in the uk, let's do something like, if we gonna do this thing called hip hop, let's do it like it's supposed to be done. That's all I'm saying. Fuck the beef. Shit cool. Go at each other, diss each other, make great records. We love that. But let it stay like this. Let it stay. At the end of the night, we all on stage from different sets, different gangs, different hoods, but we all here under this one cause and this one umbrella called hip hop.
Damaris
Amen.
Rory
Yeah, man, it was a really incredible night. I also just want to go back. I was so happy for my friend, Westside Boogie. One of my favorite Sway freestyles is him over sing about me and he's rapping that Kendrick is his actual idol. So to have that moment at the end, I was just happy for my friend because I know he idolizes Kendrick.
Mal
Shout out to boogie. That's my nigga. One of my favorite artists. Definitely one of my favorite rappers out the west coast. But you can't be three years younger than your idol. Money don't do that to my nigga. I love.
Rory
Wait, hold on. Let's look at the ages. How far. How far apart are they?
Damaris
About two and a half years, bro.
Rory
Listen, you can't rap over your idol's beat on Sway and say, yo, you my idol.
Mal
Your idol can't be three years older than you. I don't give a fuck what you talking about. That's your that you write you got shot Locker. Yeah, like, y'all niggas is right next to kids. The out of here. I wish I can't be in high school with my idol.
Rory
You was never like a freshman looking up to. To a senior.
Mal
Looking up to a senior. Yeah. Like, yo, it was some scenes that I thought was cool. Like, he a cool right here. He got all the chicks. Like, I like his style. I with that right there. But my idol, get the out of here.
Julian
Well, maybe it just rhymed better on the song.
Mal
Nah, don't do that Boogie Know how boogie. Know how to rhyme.
Rory
He ain't got.
Mal
He ain't got to do that to try to rhyme.
Rory
Know how to rhyme.
Mal
He ain't got to. He ain't got to call the idol to try to rhyme. Like, he ain't got to do that. That. He ain't got to do that.
Julian
They're gonna say you hating off.
Mal
Of course they are. I don't give. You think I keep the marriage, you know, I don't give a. About none of these.
Julian
I know. I agree with you, though. Your idol can't be three.
Mal
Your idol can't be three years older than you, man. What type of that.
Rory
He said he was coming for a spot, like, in the freestyle, too, but was just like, yo, I'm. You're my idol. Actually, I. I'm. I'm with you. I take it back. Yeah.
Mal
I just.
Rory
You can't be three years apart.
Mal
Idol. First of all, do we know what the word idol means?
Julian
Yeah, I do.
Mal
It might say, yo, your idol can't be three years old. It might say that in Webster. Your idol can't be only three years old.
Julian
Well, who's your idol? So we can do some. My idol nesting Your idol.
Damaris
Drake.
Rory
They can't have idols.
Mal
Yeah, we got idols. We got idols.
Damaris
Jesus. Kenan.
Mal
Ivy Waynes is one of my idols.
Julian
Okay. You wanted to be a comedian.
Mal
No, just as far as creating and building platforms and comedy and movies and shit like that. Writing. Definitely. Keenan Ivy Waynes.
Julian
Okay. How old is keenan Ivy?
Damaris
He's 66.
Rory
Okay, so he's like, three years apart from him.
Mal
Yeah, three years older than me.
Rory
I don't know if I, like, ever had an idol. I know it sounds, like, depressing. So, Derek, to unpack now with my therapist in the moment right now.
Julian
Jeter wasn't your idol.
Rory
I love it. Wasn't my idol, though. I don't know if I ever had, like, an idol. And that's probably my dad's fault because isn't that, like, supposed to be your first idol?
Mal
Well, your parents. Yeah.
Rory
Yeah. They up all the idols for me.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
But I think.
Rory
I mean, I guess hove I was always an idol to me. I don't know.
Mal
Yeah. Somebody like. But again, as long as they're not somebody that. Again, three years is like, that's my friend. Yes.
Rory
Book is from, like, the exact same block as Kendrick. Like, they're from the exact same community in Compton, like, specifically.
Mal
Which. Yeah. Which makes it even worse.
Julian
They played on the block together. They rose, they rode scooters together.
Rory
All right. Y'all didn't have someone in your neighborhood?
Mal
I go punch that in the face right now. Yeah. Yes. You have older guys on your block in your neighborhood? That I just said. It was some seniors when I was in high school and I was a freshman. I look at them, I'm like, damn, son is cool. Like, all the girls like him.
Damaris
Son is cool.
Mal
You know? Like, I fuck with him. Like, I like that dude right there. Cool. Anytime we interact, it's always love. But I wasn't saying, yo, that's my idol right there, yo. Like, I want to be like that nigga. What?
Rory
All right, see, that's not fair. So one of my friends on my block, I just posted on my Instagram the other day, Jerome, who's three years older than me, I looked up to him. He ended up in jail, so there wasn't much of like a.
Mal
So you ain't look up to him. You ain't go to jail.
Rory
But he didn't do an Amazon Prime Forum show. Like, I feel like I still would have looked up to him had he done what Kendrick did. Yeah, but he was three years older than me.
Julian
But you would never say out loud that he was your idol.
Rory
And you might have if he did what Kendrick did.
Mal
Yeah, no, but you wouldn't. You wouldn't have said that.
Rory
He's not my idol now.
Mal
No, but you wouldn't have said that if you was acting like. If, say, if he was. He was making music and you made.
Rory
He made music.
Mal
He did.
Rory
And you wasn't a huge fan.
Mal
He's your idol.
Rory
No, he was my man's, though. And I looked up to him because he was older now. If he went on to make good Kid Mad City, yeah. I might have idolized him more.
Mal
That's glazing. That's glazing right there.
Rory
That's a friend.
Mal
That's glazing, right?
Julian
It's a little too.
Damaris
You said he wasn't talented enough for you.
Rory
Damn.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I can't idolize like that.
Julian
I had school.
Rory
He in prison. He's not gonna get it.
Julian
I had a normal idol. My idol was Janet Jackson. Still is. Probably.
Damaris
That's normal.
Julian
Julian, did you have.
Rory
Yes.
Julian
That's a normal idol. Like, someone you look up to.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Oh, well, Kanye.
Julian
Yeah, obviously.
Damaris
Yeah, Kanye.
Rory
And I'm crazy for idolizing Jerome.
Damaris
You idolize Kanye, too.
Rory
I don't know if. Can we look up the definition of idolize? I revere Kanye for sure. I don't know if I idolize him.
Mal
If you was in the same room with Kanye. Would you get nervous?
Rory
I've been in rooms with Kanye more.
Mal
Than once, and that's nervous.
Rory
The first time I was.
Mal
That's your idol.
Rory
I get. I get nervous in the room with bad bitches. They're not my idol.
Mal
Yes, they are.
Damaris
And I do want to.
Rory
I'll do anything for that.
Mal
You want to be a bad lies.
Damaris
To admire and respect someone very much. Often too much.
Rory
The way LeBron would say it.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Too much.
Damaris
He's too good.
Mal
You like this too much.
Damaris
He's too important in my Life.
Rory
You know, LeBron was in the crowd saying, give him one more.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
It's probably not like us one more time.
Mal
No. The reason why Kendrick did that song so many times, because LeBron was like. And again, one more.
Rory
A deluxe.
Mal
Here go. Two more for y'all.
Julian
I'm assuming this is kind of like Stan culture, but before you hit, like, stand, it would be like idolizing someone like you that you think they can do no wrong.
Rory
The often too much is throwing me. Throwing me off here.
Damaris
Well, it's a bit. It's teetering on obsessive.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Like the. That they can't do. Which. Which I will gladly take my hat off and say, I guess where I once idolized Kanye, this is. Since 2017, my thoughts on him have changed drastically. He is not someone that I've looked up to in a very long time.
Mal
Also, you mean the true. That ain't your true right? Because if you idolize somebody, it's too thick and thin.
Rory
No.
Damaris
Yeah. So I think I don't to the point of the definition, I guess I don't have.
Mal
But then again, you have. You have the. You have the. The college dropout beer tattered on your arm. So that's maybe.
Rory
That's idolized.
Damaris
Maybe memorialized.
Mal
No, that's gay. Oralized.
Rory
Ate that quadruple entendre. Listen, we're still going.
Mal
Don't even ask me.
Rory
But you're fickle. Because I still idolize game through his mental health reason.
Mal
You don't idolize. You see how we start doing words? You don't idolize the game, bro.
Rory
I don't think I idolize anyone.
Mal
But you definitely don't idolize the game.
Rory
Fan of games.
Damaris
Oh, you a fan?
Rory
I'm not a fan of game now.
Julian
No. He does idolize. Who did y'all go see with? Terrace Martin.
Damaris
Oh, James Fauntleroy. That's your idol.
Julian
That's your idol for sure.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
You were yelled out loud, shaking in your booth.
Mal
You yelled out loud. He was like, whoa. He said you did that cocaine, 80s.
Rory
Play anything from here.
Mal
Yeah, exactly.
Damaris
But that does the jazz. That does remind me of our. Rory and I had a night last night.
Mal
Yo.
Damaris
With that.
Rory
Yeah. After all those entendres, y'all just did that.
Damaris
A couple of idols.
Julian
A night in New York.
Mal
Had a night on the town. We did have a bit of painted town brown.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Okay. Would you go.
Rory
Where do you think we went?
Mal
Last lap.
Rory
There you go.
Mal
Okay.
Rory
See how easy that guess was?
Mal
Yeah. Y'all went to last lot. Masego was hosting.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Don't. Don't say yeah like that, and then look at me. Don't say yeah, like that, and then look at me like that. What did I say?
Rory
You were looking away because I.
Mal
Because I saw you about to look at me, and I don't want to lock eyes with another man.
Rory
So. Come on, look at me. Look at me.
Damaris
Come on.
Mal
Look. I'm laughing in my fucking throat. Did Masego host? Because we talked about it before we left. All right. How was it?
Rory
It was good. I realized that it is really over for me.
Mal
What do you mean? Like, going.
Rory
Masego came with some of the prettiest women I've ever seen in my life. He came with a squad of, like, my types. There was, like, 17 my types. Everyone had curly hair.
Damaris
Yeah, it was copy paste. Everyone was, like, five four. Curly hair.
Mal
Oh, man.
Julian
Damn.
Rory
I don't know why you had to take it at 5 4. That's crazy.
Mal
That's like being at Whole Foods and they just put the avocados out.
Rory
Why you clock my type like that? That's weird that you even know the.
Damaris
Height as soon as we sat down. Because Rich, my friend Rich, was with us as soon as we sat down. Like, this is Rory's bag, right? Like, this is it.
Rory
And what did I do but fumble everything. I'm. I'm just not even being faithful. I have an issue even, like, flirting.
Mal
Yeah, it's real.
Rory
Like, it's really over. There's no hope for me.
Julian
They're gonna kill Rory. I'm not gonna kill Rory.
Rory
Why?
Julian
Last sentence. Even being faithful. Like, I have an issue even flirting. Why are you trying to flirt?
Mal
Y'all do it. First of all, women that are faithful to their man, they flirt too.
Damaris
Get some raps.
Julian
Listen, I believe flirting is healthy and that everyone should flirt. I. I'm not. I said that the women are going to kill Rory. That was my initial statement.
Rory
Oh. I thought it was very beautiful what I just said. I thought that Was the most honest thing a man could say. Being faithful.
Damaris
Poetic justice.
Rory
I. Yeah. I couldn't even get in my bag to flirt because I felt bad. I. I'm not even. I don't even know what to say to women.
Julian
You made it.
Rory
She, like, even, like, was even trying to give me, like, laughs and rhythm. She was trying to help me through the whole thing.
Damaris
Talk you through it.
Rory
Like, if it was over, we would have went down to the bathroom at that point with the rhythm I was getting, and I was just fumbling every last thing. She was, like, leaving openings for me to say something, and I was just like, yeah, this is my daughter. You want to see a photo?
Mal
You're that guy now. I just.
Rory
I didn't know what I was doing there.
Mal
Okay.
Julian
Was he an actual fly on the wall? This.
Mal
Embrace it.
Damaris
No. Well, first off, Mao is the man.
Rory
What a.
Damaris
What a cool guy.
Mal
I mean, you idolize him.
Damaris
No.
Mal
Okay, I'll just. I'm just asking. I'm just checking the world.
Damaris
He is tall. So I looked up to him like that, naturally. Yeah. No, we had a good time. I.
Rory
But I did feel bad cuz Sego came, like, with all those women, and I felt like I let everyone down because, like, they were bored.
Damaris
No, I didn't talk to them. We had that whole corner.
Rory
Yeah. But then they moved to the steps. I could tell they was looking for somebody to like, like them.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
And I just didn't have it.
Mal
They was hoping Michael B. Jordan walked in that night. Last night, probably.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
I mean, I was hope. I was hoping.
Mal
Yeah. Talking about idols, take some of the pressure off of you.
Rory
No, I would have been right next to him. What are you working on, sir?
Mal
Ew.
Rory
I would have moved the girls away.
Mal
I'm glad Julia said oh, because I.
Rory
Was gonna say it, but I'm joking.
Mal
No, I know, but it's still nasty, though.
Rory
Yeah, just.
Mal
It's all right, man. It happens, bro. We all get to that point where it's just like, what do you want, man? This is. This is all I got.
Rory
Like, I. I was even nice at, like, flirting with my girl's friends in a respective way. Like, I know how to tow that line. I couldn't even do that last night. Yeah, like, innocent flirting. It was. It was very bad. And then I just turned over to Julian and Rich and wanted to talk about aliens. And instead of the seven bad bitches that were sitting next to me, we.
Damaris
We laughed once.
Mal
Y'all wonder why I don't go out with you, right?
Rory
Damaris Was actually discussing.
Julian
I'm like, why they ain't. Why y'all ain't called a bad masters.
Damaris
Like, we went to another bar and then they were talking about aliens and conspiracy theories until three in the morning.
Julian
Who y'all don't get?
Damaris
No, Rich and Rory. We were seated at the bar. I was falling asleep sitting upright. I was so tired. We were all. Rory and I were hammered. Rich, yeah. Behind us. But they were going at it. And then you want to do the. The Abraham Lincoln bit. This is where we ended up.
Rory
At one point, it got so bad with our debates that I started lying about reading Abraham Lincoln's autobiography to try to get my point across to Rich. And he was like, which one did you read? I was like, the one about his life, like in the middle of a full one week where I was clearly fucking lying.
Mal
The one where he's a vampire.
Damaris
Because Rich said, I read his biography. And Rich just without a beat goes, which one?
Mal
And Roy's like, the one, the one, the only one.
Rory
It was me. It was me. Coming off, Alex Haley wrote it. A very passionate point about how Abraham Lincoln really defined our two party system. And he's the reason this country's fucking awful. And that that whole he freed the slaves thing is just a marketing ploy. Was screaming this. And then Rich just came with facts. And I was like, yeah, no, I read. I read the book.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
I was like, Rory, he's like one of the biggest history buffs.
Mal
I know.
Rory
He smoked me. The debate.
Mal
This is his.
Rory
But sometimes when you know you're about to lose, you just have to lean all the way in and be like, bro, of course I've read the book. Page seven. Like, what are we talking about?
Mal
Who didn't read it?
Rory
The aliens and the nukes?
Mal
Like, you sounded like LeBron in the bubble.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
When they was like, yeah, so what? What do you like about Malcolm X? You know, such a smart man has.
Damaris
So much knowledge up there, bro.
Mal
I said he was a smart man. Yo, that type of. That type of commitment is to be honored, though. Like, if a. A lying like that, it's a you want on your team. Yo, he ain't gonna snitch like that. LeBron said he was a smart man. Like, we. That's what's up, bro.
Rory
You know where I also fumbled and realized that I was trash. I used to be really good at that. Talking to women about their careers. I gave up. When that beautiful curly head chick was talking about getting her life together. She was young. She was like, yeah, I'M about to move out of my parents house. This is what I want to do as my career. These are my dreams. I used to smoke that back. I was just like, yeah, hopefully it works out.
Mal
So you got good luck.
Rory
I had nothing.
Mal
Yeah, I'm worse than that.
Rory
I tell them I could have manipulated that situation so well and made that girl feel like she was about to achieve every last thing in her life.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
But I just sat there and was like, I mean, listen, shit happens. Yeah, good luck.
Mal
Yeah, that's what I had. God bless.
Rory
I don't remember.
Damaris
The girl that she was across from us was beautiful too. She was from Colorado Springs.
Mal
Smoke show.
Damaris
Oh my God. And we're so lame. They're arguing about politics. We're standing outside the bar and we're like, damn, we should have, like, talked, whatever. And as we're saying this, they walk by us. They literally. The whole herd walks right by us. We just look at them like, there they are.
Rory
So we left. We left, right? We debated for two hours in another bar after we fumbled everything. And then God brought the same group of women to walk past us at 3:30 in the morning to say, guys, give it another try. And we all just sat there like, yeah, get home safe.
Julian
God, you guys are losers.
Rory
Super losers.
Damaris
Yeah, we're pretty lame.
Rory
Yeah, I was kind of happy about that. I'm going to talk about this with my therapist. I was happy of how lame I felt.
Mal
That's good. Like, I got. You got to lean into that sometimes. Like, listen, I don't. This is. That's what I got.
Rory
I also, like, don't care.
Mal
That's when you read the master level.
Rory
When you're beautiful but cool. All right.
Mal
Yeah, I know. I know how this is gonna go. Like, yeah, it is what it is.
Rory
Yeah. You're 24 and moving out of your parents house. I don't ever want.
Damaris
I can't relate at all.
Mal
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
Like, I don't ever text me.
Mal
Yeah, it happens, man. We all get to that point.
Rory
But they were like cool chicks. That's. That's where I'm saying it was depressing on the Fumble. It's not like they were just pretty stupid. Yeah, they were pretty and cool and they were looking to like, talk with people and we were just like in the corner like aliens.
Julian
Gross.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
Yeah. You would have loved it. You should have came.
Mal
Belichick would have cleaned up last night. He would have been walking with all of them right past y'all.
Rory
I can't wait for people to hear our patreon episode about Belichick.
Damaris
Voicemails.
Mal
Let's do it. You've got mail.
Damaris
Well, I was gonna play this relationship one, but since you're on the topic of not getting pussy, here's just a really nasty one. Yeah, this is nasty one. This one's pretty sick.
Mal
You're a big fan of the pot coming from Philly. I got my homegirl with me, and.
Rory
We got a little dilemma.
Mal
Her previous situation, I gave him a nasty award. We're trying to figure out if y'all.
Rory
Gonna give him nasty award for this.
Mal
Too, or if it's valid.
Rory
So the situation goes is she was smashing this guy, and my husband, he.
Mal
Did a thing which I feel like was unforgivable.
Rory
They was fucking, and he nutted on her stomach. Stone screaming. That's. That's not the climax right there.
Mal
Sorry.
Rory
Well, he climaxed after he nutted on the stomach. He slurped it up and he cleaned the plate. Yeah, buddy cleaned the plate.
Julian
I never talked to him after that.
Mal
I personally think he deserves a nasty award.
Rory
She broke it off with him and.
Mal
Yeah, should. Should. Should give him another chance.
Julian
That woman should.
Mal
We need the views and opinions from.
Rory
From y'all.
Julian
You know his homegirl white.
Mal
I know she was really. Yeah. But we gonna leave on that note. Y'all be safe, though, love.
Julian
That's a white one.
Damaris
Well, they're in Philly, so please come to the show because that needs to be discussed in greater detail.
Rory
Bring homie.
Damaris
Bring him. We can reenact it once she said that.
Julian
I need to know if I should give. Baby, baby. Let me tell you something. That ain't his first time swallowing nut, okay? Nut is an acquired taste. He didn't just suck nut up off your stomach and swallow it. And just like. That was his first time doing that. He was just trying something freaky, which, you know, he's. He's a nutcracker for sure.
Damaris
It's like cilantro. It's acquired.
Julian
Cilantro.
Damaris
Cilantro, whatever.
Rory
I'm not kink shaming. We've all done some weird when we was horny, but to do that after you nut, like, with post nut clarity to slurp it up.
Mal
I hate when y'all say, like, you.
Rory
Had a clear mind when you did that.
Mal
Why we can't kink Shame.
Rory
We can king shame.
Mal
That's some sick.
Damaris
No, ma, that's sick.
Mal
That's some sick.
Rory
Yo.
Mal
And another woman go like, yo, it came out your body. Yeah, so does my. I'm not eating that. The.
Rory
I Was the first time I did horrible decisions. Wheezy asked me, and I was offended and she shamed me. When she asked me, have you ever tasted your own come? I was like, no. She's like, that's weird that you haven't. I was like, is it what? You've never tasted your own come? I was like, nope. Never even thought about it accidentally.
Damaris
No, I'm saying, like, intentionally, like, coming.
Rory
Into spoon, like, say you nut in a tissue, like, taking it and tasting your own come. It's never even crossed my fucking mind.
Mal
That's a sick individual, apparently, that she.
Rory
Was making me sound like I was the weirdo and that men do that.
Mal
No. And I was like, it's okay. It's okay to say it. There's some weird people out here that do weird shit. That is. And I get it. Women is your girl. She probably swallowed a thousand times. Whatever. Cool. I get it. But I'm not. I'm never. I'm never slurping up my own.
Rory
Never even thought about it.
Mal
Yeah. Like, that's never even. Like, how does your brain even go to that? As a man, I feel like that's.
Julian
A. I feel like that's definitely a sex double standard. Because women, we have to know what we taste like.
Rory
That's like a. Oh, I'd love putting her taste in her mouth.
Julian
That's. That's like, requires my move. But for men, it just don't. Nah.
Mal
Yeah, that's how. Like, that's how. Like, it's just like, not. It's so weird that you, as a woman that fuck with Nick. If a man did that, you'll be like, yo, what are you doing? What?
Damaris
That's instant ick.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Now, I've had a man do that before, but he didn't know. It was an accident. It was. It was.
Mal
I was in an accident. Tell me the accident.
Julian
It.
Rory
Yeah, please.
Mal
How do you accidentally start to finish? How do you accidentally swallow your own nut as a man?
Julian
Because if you. If you.
Mal
Wild question. How do you accidentally swallow your own.
Julian
Ejaculate inside someone and later start eating their pussy later, like maybe 15 minutes in. And you forgot that that happened. That that is still in there.
Rory
Then that you guys sit on. Totally squeeze that out.
Damaris
You don't forget. You just.
Julian
You don't think about it. Like, if you're going for around two, you didn't automatically remember. Remember. Oh, I just nut in this girl. Like, it wasn't it. He didn't think but a moment immediately when he noticed.
Mal
All right, that's That's.
Julian
Yeah, that's. For the moment.
Mal
That's.
Julian
Forgive that he did that.
Rory
He's. He's just ill. That's tough. That's fine.
Mal
Yeah, he just had a lot on his mind. He just forgot that, you know, forgot that he. Where he placed his nut.
Damaris
But this guy. This seems like something he likes.
Mal
Oh, yeah, that's his.
Julian
That's.
Rory
Wow.
Damaris
Was he, like, out of towels, maybe?
Rory
No, this is one. I really want a callback because she was giggling in the background. I want her to tell us what that combo was after. Like, after you watched him slurp the nut off your stomach. Like, how did the rest of the night. How'd the rest of the night go? Like.
Mal
And you know, he. And you know when he did that, his ass was in the air.
Julian
Yep.
Damaris
Yeah, because she's. You're picturing this. She's laying down, so he's hovering over her ass up.
Mal
There's some sick out here, man, because.
Julian
You ain't even have to do that. Yeah, women, we do that for, like, you're not the love of the game, you know what I'm saying? Or, like, to impress men. We don't just do that. Like, you didn't have to do that, homie.
Damaris
Yeah, well, for the love of the game. But also, semen can improve your mood since it has natural antidepressant properties, including endorphins.
Rory
I was keeping.
Julian
My man wrote that.
Damaris
I agree.
Julian
Yep.
Rory
100.
Damaris
Yeah, no, I just. I agree with him.
Rory
Why?
Mal
Some sick right there.
Damaris
What do you mean, why?
Julian
Yeah, I mean, I don't kink shame. I don't king shame. If he. That's what he's into. That's what he's into. But it seems like you're not into that and, like, you don't respect him for it. So, you know, if you're not gonna.
Mal
Match his freak sin not to cut you away with these. What? Exactly. Semen is a vicious, viscous, all that. I said vicious. I said vicious. I'm about to be like, what?
Rory
That was some Rory reading.
Mal
I'm like, oh, I thought I said vicious. Okay.
Rory
You've never had, like, a. A vicious load?
Mal
No. You know, I've had a vicious low. Yeah. I've definitely got out of this.
Rory
You've never. Never just.
Mal
I've let out.
Rory
It looked vicious.
Mal
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Rory
The way it's sprayed.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
You know, when you. It's been a while.
Damaris
Sperm is only about 1 to 5% of semen. So you really just. It's just like, what is the substance then.
Mal
Oh, 80% water.
Damaris
A fluid called seal plasma. Water.
Rory
Huh. It's not piss, though.
Damaris
That's a fact.
Rory
So we beat the women there with their squirt.
Damaris
Yeah. They're gross.
Rory
I still can't get over.
Julian
Wait, is it as high in protein?
Mal
Look what the marriage want to know. She back in the gym trying to count.
Julian
Count calories over here eating five eggs a day. I'm exhausted.
Mal
The marriage back at the gym. She tried to get them gains. Look at how much protein.
Rory
So many other ways to get protein. Yeah.
Mal
The marriage like, yo.
Damaris
And it's on such a minuscule molecular level. 252 milligrams of protein on average in a. In a load.
Julian
Yeah. Not worth it.
Damaris
That's not him.
Julian
I'm so tired of chicken breasts, y'all.
Mal
Y'all don't know the marriage ready.
Rory
At least let me get some reciprocity.
Mal
Yeah. Wait. How much protein in that? Cause I'll just do that.
Rory
It much quicker than cooking the marriage.
Mal
How much protein?
Damaris
Because one ejaculation usually produces 5 milliliters of semen, which you can safely average around 252 milligrams of protein.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
That's enough, baby. Deal.
Julian
You got to know, man, I don't think that's not. Y'all know how hard it is getting in enough protein to make up for, like, weightlifting like, I mean, cottage cheese. I didn't. Why?
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Oh, I like cottage cheese.
Rory
She could have had nut.
Mal
She could have had a nut.
Damaris
She wants to fuck him again.
Rory
That.
Julian
It must have been some fire. A nigga that eat his own nut. I know the sex was fire. She don't want to say that.
Rory
He definitely threw it down. No way. You swallow your own nut. And you and got crazy dick gang, like 100% came together. That's a package.
Damaris
Trash dick.
Julian
And then slurping like, why are you prematurely ejaculating?
Rory
And then three seconds of sex and then.
Mal
That's crazy.
Rory
Get rid of the evidence.
Mal
Yeah. Like, that need to be locked away, though. You need to put like that, like, on a whole different. Like, get a boat and just send that out to this.
Rory
The guy that. That did the voicemail as a good friend. Because if my homegirl told me that happened, I would never let her forget it. I would clown her for the rest of eternity. If Damaris told me that happened, I would call her, like, in the morning on the regular, like, yo, just reminding you that a man slurp nut off your stomach. And then I'd hang the phone up.
Julian
I'd never tell you anything like that because, like, the fact that she's in the back, like, no, stop. Like the fact she let him say, yo, I'm about to call New Rory and Mall and, like, ask their opinions. And she was like, yeah, do that. Nah. And told where we was from. Now, like, we know where you from. We know you from Philly. Gonna be at the Philly show. Now we looking for you in the crowd.
Damaris
Please come to the Philly show.
Mal
Her or the dude that did it?
Julian
Both of them?
Damaris
No. Well, I guess both of them.
Julian
The trio.
Damaris
If they.
Mal
Whoever.
Damaris
If they get tickets. We'll find a way. We'll list. Listed?
Rory
Yeah, listed for the Philly show.
Damaris
Pull up. That's a sick.
Julian
They gotta come on stage.
Mal
No, they don't. I don't wanna talk to no nigga that did that. I'm cool.
Rory
Well, maybe I'm down with making the entire show about this. Let's just interview him.
Mal
There's nothing to explain. He's a weirdo. It's okay.
Julian
He was in the moment.
Mal
In the moment.
Rory
He already. It was post nut clarity. The moment was over. Yeah, he did that with a clear mind.
Julian
Post not clarity isn't as immediate as y'all are trying to.
Mal
No, it's. It depends on who you.
Damaris
That second.
Mal
It depends on who you with, Damaris.
Rory
I can assure you.
Julian
Like the mo. Like the. Like them.
Mal
It depends on what I know. It depends on the woman. You would 100 that post.
Damaris
Not.
Rory
It's.
Julian
I mean, I thought it was like five minutes.
Mal
It's on who. It depends on the woman for sure.
Rory
Sometimes it's halfway through you nutting, like, that's how quick it is.
Julian
Oh, no.
Mal
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. But that's.
Rory
That's when you find out if you like it or not.
Mal
I'm not it. And while I was nothing new, I would. I would never touch this girl again.
Rory
That's something that's through the back.
Julian
You can without. Well, without the back tooth. Send back tooth.
Mal
Oh, no. But away from her. It's happened. Like, I will never.
Rory
You will never touch me. Becky. Back back tooth. Doing Becky Beck.
Mal
I don't speak to her. I don't even speak to her no more.
Rory
Listen, we all have our weak moments. I don't know.
Mal
You supposed to tell a nigga you ain't got no back tooth.
Julian
No, you. I'm never telling somebody that.
Damaris
You just give her a feeling. You could just, like, take care of it for her.
Mal
Yeah, right. I took care of it.
Julian
That's a quick. What two Racks, three racks, quick.
Mal
I got right the fuck up out of here, never to speak to her again in my life. Now it don't even matter. I don't see her mouth no more.
Rory
Is there any weird kinks with people that you guys have dated or that you were like, this is a little odd?
Mal
Not really. N. Not weird, Kings.
Rory
I had a girl ask me to piss on her, but I didn't want to.
Mal
Why you didn't.
Rory
She's not.
Julian
You ain't drinking enough water.
Rory
It's not like my. I had nutted. Like, I had post nutclif. Maybe if I was horny, like, I would have been like, all right, let's try anything.
Damaris
Like, sure.
Rory
But I like, we. We finished having sex, and then she was like, you can pee on me. And like, I had post nut clarity, like a regular human being and was like, I'm all right.
Mal
You're like, I'm good. Just go to the bathroom.
Rory
Just go to the bathroom.
Mal
Girl asked me that, but I'm too silly. I can't. I started laughing.
Rory
I would. I would start dying.
Mal
Yeah, I just started that. And I was like, what are we doing? Get up. Come on. Get up. Get off the floor.
Julian
Get off the floor.
Mal
Get off the floor, man. Come on. We ain't gonna do this. We got another one.
Damaris
Yeah, let's do it. This is the. The funnel.
Rory
Kia told me something funny. A guy she dated briefly used to want to sniff her ears. I thought that was weird.
Damaris
He's white.
Mal
That's weird.
Rory
No, he was black.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
I wanted to sniff her ears, like, after.
Julian
After sex.
Rory
Yeah. I thought. I listen well.
Julian
I think pheromones were coming off her.
Rory
This is how secure and stupid I am. Every now and then, I just go up to Kia and go, you gave her a snake in her ears. Like, just to. With her.
Mal
He probably wanted to hear all sex demons. He wanted to hear her thoughts. How was it?
Rory
Yo, imagine. Imagine nothing and going, yo, can I sniff your ears?
Mal
That's weird. Saying that without is weird in general. Yeah. Sniff your ear. The. Just more like, oh, your earring back stink. First of all, you need to take that out and soak that. Just let that soak overnight a little bit.
Julian
I don't believe men actually like me unless they kiss my ass after we have sex. That's like a worshiping thing for me. If you don't kiss my ass after we have sex.
Rory
What if you nut it on your ass?
Julian
That's. That's already been. Whatever. If you don't kiss my ass after sex, I don't think you like me at all.
Mal
Like, why are you laying down? Just start kissing your butt.
Julian
It's like a worshiping ritual for me.
Mal
Damaris, you don't like men.
Rory
You have a lot of ego.
Mal
I don't think you like men.
Julian
How I don't like men?
Mal
I just think you use men and you just, like, toss them to the side when you're done with them. But you don't.
Damaris
Like.
Julian
I spent a lot more before I started working with all men for a living.
Mal
Nah, but, you know, I don't think you like men. I think you tolerate men. But you don't like men, though.
Julian
I do like men.
Mal
If you woke up and all men was. Yeah. If you woke up and all men was gone off the earth, you wouldn't be mad.
Julian
I would be. I would be.
Mal
I don't know.
Damaris
To get a credit card.
Julian
If Jesse Williams wasn't here anymore, I would be devastated. I would be distraught.
Mal
Jesse Williams, that's where you draw the line at men.
Damaris
Right there.
Rory
Him.
Damaris
He's dope.
Julian
That's a man.
Mal
Yo, you heard that? He's dope.
Damaris
He's a cool guy. He's like an activist over there. Guys.
Julian
Oh, that's his fellow biracial. So of course he.
Damaris
Yeah, my Juneteenth brother.
Julian
But no, I don't think that. That's weird.
Rory
I would never think he's your type.
Julian
I know a lot of girls. Oh, my little heart. I know a lot of girls who. Who like getting their ass kissed after. You do, too.
Mal
My ass kissed?
Julian
Not your ass, fool. You've never kissed a woman's ass after sex?
Mal
Of course.
Julian
That's what I'm saying. So how does that make me not like men?
Mal
No, because that's like a. You need that.
Julian
I do. I like it a lot.
Damaris
I do.
Mal
Yeah. The women I've done it to, they didn't need that. Like, that wasn't, like, a thing that they needed.
Julian
I love it.
Rory
It didn't validate them.
Julian
Well, some girls like forehead kisses. I like, you know.
Mal
You like getting your ass kissed?
Julian
Yeah, I like getting my ass kissed.
Mal
But you only like getting your ass kissed. So when you stop fucking with him, he got a new bitch. Like, girl, that nigga kissed my ass before. Get out of here.
Julian
I don't do that.
Mal
You lying your ass up. Yes, you do. I've heard you do that.
Julian
I don't feel the need to brag about stuff like that because it's just a necessity. It's the same thing when girls be like, girl, he ate my ass. Like, yeah, that comes with sex. You have to eat my ass. You ain't getting nowhere near me if you're not eating my ass. So I don't gotta a. Gotta eat your ass? Yeah, that's like. No, that's normal. We're adults.
Damaris
That's first base.
Mal
Yo, getting your ass ate me at first base is crazy.
Rory
Like, what's that in 2024?
Damaris
That's before the check drops.
Mal
What's the triple, though? Like, look. Look at her asses first. What's third?
Rory
I'd be mad if she's not into that.
Mal
Slurping it off the ear.
Rory
That's my go to move.
Mal
Slurping it.
Rory
No. Eating out.
Mal
Oh, I'm about to be like, what.
Rory
If she don't like that? Then I don't have very many tricks.
Damaris
We got nothing to talk about.
Julian
Eating the ass, Eating the feet. Like, that's. You have to do that.
Damaris
I'm good on the feet.
Mal
Rooted to the Tudor, huh, baby D? Yeah, that.
Julian
You don't eat feet.
Damaris
I like pretty feet, but I'm not, like, trying to lick toes.
Julian
And you don't be in missionary with the toe in the air. Grabbing.
Damaris
No.
Julian
How to teach you how to have sex.
Mal
I got a teacher to have sex. It's crazy. You tell a grown man, I got. I gotta teach you how to have sex.
Rory
I mean, that is. That's the. Go to stroke, though.
Julian
What?
Mal
Sucking toes?
Rory
Missionary with the toe in your mouth.
Mal
Yeah. That's like the Jordan Fade away.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Gotta go to it every time.
Rory
Down. They can't stop now. I know.
Mal
Peace. They can't stop it now that I.
Rory
Know men are serving up. Nut, like, I have to find some trick.
Mal
Yeah. You got to keep up with time.
Rory
Like, I have to keep toes in my mouth. If this is what men are doing now.
Mal
That's fact.
Rory
I can't. I can't compete.
Mal
Yeah. Nah. We got one more.
Damaris
Yeah. Yeah.
Rory
That might be the craziest voice. Hope everybody's doing well. I have a question. It's not necessarily a relationship question.
Julian
You better cry.
Rory
But, Damaris, I'd really like your opinion on this thing. So I. I'm 29 years old. I'm. You know, I'm not in the best position financially. I'm definitely working to get out of it, out of this little hole that I've dug myself into. But recently I started dating this girl, and I really, you know, been digging her, and, you know, she's very reserved and ambitious and driven and, you know. But she wants to take Things slow, like, we ain't hooked up or nothing, which is like, something I actually really like about her. And so my question is, have you ever been in a position where you're not financially in the best position, but you wanted to try to make it work out? Because I don't think that should absolutely be a deal breaker in all cases. In some cases, yes, but not in all. But in Damaris, I want, I want to know what your opinion is. Have you ever date, dated someone that you know wasn't in the best financial position and, you know, how, how was that for you? And did it make you resent them anymore or anything? But yeah, let me know.
Mal
Thank you, guys.
Rory
Take it away.
Julian
Well, he's 29. I, I and actually I really appreciate, like, your vulnerability. You know, how hard it is for men to say that they broke. It's tough. So I appreciate your vulnerability. You're 29, which means that you're probably dating women that are 29, 28, 27. We're all broke at that age. We're all putting our money away towards something. Even the successful people are putting their money away towards something. So nobody's just throwing money away. What I will say is it depends on the person that you're dating, and it depends on the type of person that you are. Have I dated men who were not financially in the best places before? Yes, I have. The ones that I stayed with through that were the ones that I knew no matter what. That was a temporary thing. There are some men who are broke, and there are some men who are just in a bad spot. There's a difference. So it really depends on the type of man that you are. If you're a great guy and you are ambitious and you do want more and you have a plan that you stick to and you're consistent and you're trying, then women should definitely take you serious and, you know, give you a chance now to be in a committed relationship. I don't think that you're in the place to do that right now because relationships just cost money, unfortunately, that is where it is. And not only do they cost money, they're also very big distractions because now you have something else that you have to devote time and energy and resources to when you actually don't have any time or resources to have up for grabs because you need to be focused on getting money. So, like, the girl, date the girl, enjoy the girl. It's up to her whether she wants to be with you or not. But if you think that she's Worth it. You should definitely try. But if she's ambitious and motivated, then you need to match her energy on that and show her that, like I'm not going to be a detractor from you. Like I'm not going to get in the way of your dreams and all if you fall in love with me. If we're together. Like I'm not going to your up because I'm about to match you or do better. So yeah, just let it be motivation to you. Ain't nothing wrong with it. Guys, do you agree?
Rory
I've definitely been the broke guy and had the woman stick by me.
Mal
Good woman.
Rory
But I mean you have to, you have to have some type of ambition. Like prove that you're not a bum. Yeah, Women are actually the most understanding creatures on earth. If you're showing some potential, you'll be fine. I think she'll like you for you. And if you really want to go out and get some money, she knows it's going to take some time. Show her that you're working for. I think broke is a fucking bum.
Mal
Broke is an energy. I think you could not have money, but being broke is like you don't have no ambition. You don't have no, you're not working towards anything. You're not, you know, I mean like that's a nigga that's not trying to better his situation and you know, get up out of whatever tough financial spot he's in, that's broke. But if you just don't have money but you, you hustling and you got shit going and you trying to, you may not be able to afford lavish vacations and gifts and shit like that. Like that's not broke. I think being broke is a, is a, is a energy and it's a mindset. Like you're not trying to better yourself and you're not trying to. Your girl leave to go to work, you on, you on 2K PlayStation. She Come home, you still on 2K. It's like, that's a broken, that's just loafing. Ain't doing nothing with himself, ain't doing that with his time. So it's a difference.
Rory
So I got my first apartment at 22 years old. The rent was 800 that I split with a two bedroom. So I paid 400. When I was 22, I met a bad bitch and she said, let's go to Tao for dinner. And I was like, of course, why wouldn't we? Naturally, why the fuck wouldn't we?
Damaris
The usual?
Rory
Yeah, the bill was 400 which I used to scrap together to get for my rent at the end of the month was for dinner. Never talk to that again.
Mal
But why did you let her run it up like that?
Rory
Because I was weak.
Mal
Oh, yeah?
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
Why are you punishing her for never talking to her again?
Rory
I couldn't afford her.
Julian
Oh, you can't afford her? Yeah.
Rory
If this is what you do on.
Julian
A Tuesday, she don't do, like.
Rory
That's why I'm trying to give Dante advice, like, sometimes don't live above your means. Sometimes.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
I was talking to a girl that's used to going to town on a Tuesday. Yeah, my. It was my rent. That was the bill.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I had no business being there. Let me go home.
Mal
I went out.
Rory
Don't fuck with women you can't afford.
Mal
I went out the other night to watch the fight I want to name drop. But Chris Brown had rented out a spot. It's a private spot in the city, but he had rented it out for the night. And I met one of my homeboys there. And I was mad because the fight had just ended. As soon as I walked in, I was like, why the fuck am I even here now? The fight just ended. But I'm looking at the girls that's in the room. Some young girls in the room. It was some girls that I knew, but I felt bad for all the young dudes. Dudes that's 24, 25. Cause if y'all niggas ain't getting a bag, yo, these women have access to like superstar, bro. Like, y'all don't have a chance.
Rory
This is where we've had a lot of debates over the years. I think you're just used to a certain circle where I'm not. There's so many. I don't use the word average, but there's women that don't exist in that world and that are fine with.
Mal
I'm talking about the very. I'm talking about the beautiful girls.
Rory
Women that.
Mal
Yeah, but those type of girls, these.
Rory
24 year old guys will be fine if they go and hang out with regular women. Not women that are going to. Let me. Let me Monte Davis fight with Chris Brown.
Mal
Let me rephrase what I'm saying. If you have an Instagram as a young man, the women that you're following that you think are gorgeous and beautiful don't even. Just leave it alone. If you're not at a certain place in your life financially, don't. Bro, you playing a. You playing a losing game. It's like sitting on A press.
Rory
That's how you end up 22 years old at Tao trying to do some shit that you have no business doing. Agreed. I've made that mistake.
Julian
I. All of my homegirls, like, just normal girls, they just. They, you know, they make 90k. They want a guy that makes 90k and they're just there.
Mal
Yeah, but if Chris Brown DM you and say, come to this fight party.
Julian
You going, yes, of course, but that's very unrealistic. That's not going to.
Mal
It's not in today's time.
Julian
Girls who got fucking 900 followers, they're barely on IG. They working all like, they're normal girls.
Mal
They're like that.
Julian
There's a. The majority of the women in the world are like that. They're going out, they're working, they're doing normal. They just want a guy that buys them flowers and takes them on cute little dates to a nice little steakhouse every once in a while. Like.
Rory
Like, and.
Julian
And it's faithful. Like, that's all they want.
Rory
Some women actually like. Like connections with men, not celebrities. So you're jaded.
Mal
I know.
Rory
I used to tell you years ago, just come out to me, like, off some, like, work happy hour. You're going to meet women and it's going to change your perspective.
Damaris
You've never seen on your timeline.
Rory
Yeah, like these there.
Mal
I don't. I don't.
Rory
So many beautiful, amazing women out there that literally just go to work and.
Mal
Y. You telling me that. Yes, yes, I know that.
Rory
I've been telling you this for 10 years.
Mal
But I know that. But I'm talking about. I'm talking about another woman type of woman that exists. I'm not saying those women don't exist.
Rory
Are g. They multiply.
Mal
Yeah, but. But there's more today than it's ever been.
Rory
That's a fact.
Mal
That's all I'm saying. I don't understand why y.
Julian
There are mores than there's ever been.
Mal
But why y'all fighting what I'm saying? Yes, I know that there's women.
Julian
We're talking about the majority. Majority of women.
Mal
Yeah, but I'm just saying.
Julian
Majority of women.
Mal
For the right price. Right price.
Rory
You guys are probably gonna give me pushback because they showed up with masego, and masego's an artist. But those women last night. Yeah, very pretty.
Julian
That doesn't work.
Damaris
That doesn't work in this case. I. I'm with you because I. Because I met them and I spoke to them. They were normal, but, like, that's like.
Rory
You could meet that girl at Whole Foods and they. They weren't like celebrity chasers.
Mal
How do you know?
Rory
I think that their homegirl. Yeah, one of the girls going to dental school.
Mal
I know a lot of that have their own careers.
Damaris
So much wax for candles.
Mal
What y'all talking about? Like, yeah, I know a bunch of girls that have real careers and.
Rory
Yeah, no, they. They sell. They definitely swimsuits and.
Mal
No, I'm talking about that have real jobs.
Julian
It'd be six figure. Six figure earning.
Rory
Oh, no, those are the best ones.
Julian
How you think they can afford to be in these places and miss work and do all of this and. Yeah, now the men ain't picking up the. The celebrities nowadays aren't just picking up the broke off the street. They gotta go on your page and see that you used to. Now. Now you got to be used to.
Mal
Yeah, but that. You just got to be a good. That's all. You got some Chanel bags, some bust down jewelry.
Julian
Exactly.
Mal
That means a couple been here before. So you know they got that on their own. Yeah, no, not the mud. Naturally. They got that.
Julian
I know a lot of women who buy their own Chanel bags.
Mal
I do too.
Julian
Same thing. Y'all know.
Mal
Yeah, I just.
Rory
I feel like the women last night were actually a good example. Even though they came with masego. They were what I'm talking about.
Mal
Okay.
Rory
You would meet that girl at an after work mixer, not just at some fight with Chris Brown.
Mal
What's the punchline? I'm trying to get what you say. Like, what are you saying?
Rory
Oh, I didn't even put that on Tandra at greenhouse.
Mal
No, but what at whip?
Rory
I don't know.
Mal
What are you saying, though? That doesn't mean she's not a. Yeah, I see how he get his heart broke. Oh, you meet a girl at hopefuls. Like, she's not a. I wouldn't.
Rory
I've only meet women.
Mal
Meanwhile, James Harden, like, bring your ass over here so I could drop it off in you.
Julian
Meanwhile, James dropping off in you is crazy. Yo.
Mal
No, she's so nice. She was. I know.
Rory
No, I'm not gonna be the ones I'm with Julian, all women are whores. I agree.
Mal
I'm not going that far.
Rory
But I'm saying that you can meet quote unquote, normal women out that look just as good as the. That go to celebrity parties. That's. That's really all what I'm trying to.
Damaris
Normal women look better. My opinion. So who the normal women, I think just look better than the same. The IG keep that online. I want to see that in person.
Mal
And then when you see some of them in person, they. They're not. They're.
Julian
Oh, my God. I've seen over. Over the past week, I've been to just. I've seen so many people who don't look the way that they look online.
Mal
Oh, yeah. That's a big.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
You ain't know, like, when I'm doing.
Julian
When I'm put posting pictures and shit. Like, if I don't look like myself, I won't even post a picture. I don't like not looking like myself. I don't want you to come to my page expecting that that's the bitch you gonna meet. And then you meet me and be disappointed. No, some people, really, between FaceApp and all the, they really don't look like themselves at all.
Mal
So you gotta start throwing them in the pool when you meet them.
Julian
It don't even be about the makeup, because makeup can change the way a person looks kinda. But, like, makeup. Makeup can't undo ugly. Me personally, I always say that makeup can't undo ugly. But these filters and the edits and.
Mal
Shit, makeup can undo ugly. Trust me. I see.
Julian
Only if you got, like, really, really bad skin. If you have ugly features, like, you have ugly features.
Damaris
Ooh. There's nothing worse than when they try to cake up up the makeup on bad skin. You start looking like a Crackle bar.
Rory
Crackle Bar Rose Crunch bar crackle, too.
Damaris
Crackle's got the same effect.
Rory
Nothing's worse than that, though. The makeup over bad skin. Like, just.
Julian
Rory, Rory, I thought about you. One of my homegirls said something. She was like. She hit me. She was like, since when do men, like, hate birthday makeup? And I was like, always. I was like, oh, they. Oh, baby. I said, maybe it's because I'm around more men. And, like, men are like, you know, I have men as homeboys. Men hate birthday makeup. Like, when I go to do my makeup for my birthday, I am terrified to accidentally do birthday makeup, like, because y'all hate it so much.
Rory
And that should be rough. In relationships, when you're trying to tell your girl, like, you don't need to wear a lot of makeup, like, you're beautiful, because that just comes across bad, apparently, in women's brains. Like, why are you putting on makeup?
Damaris
I used to have a thing. To your point. I used to have a thing with this girl that was just for me. It's not me naturally gorgeous. And then she. Every time we would Go out, dude. Overdone the makeup. Every. Only when we went out and I was like, don't do that. I couldn't say it. Like, I wasn't.
Julian
She was just bad. She was bad at her.
Damaris
It was just, like, too much like, it. She looked like she had a shiner.
Rory
Yeah.
Damaris
And then, like, her lips were just purple.
Mal
All of a sudden.
Damaris
I'm like, you looked great this morning. Like, just do that. Stop.
Rory
But how women's brains work. You can't even say that to them. So many times you put anything on, like, you're actually making yourself look worse. Just to let you know, some people suck.
Julian
That's only if you suck at makeup, though. No matter how beautiful you are, if you are really good at makeup and your makeup is about, like, enhancing your beauty. So if you're beautiful and you put on good makeup, you will still look even more beautiful somehow. But some people be absolutely gorgeous and are shitty at makeup and make themselves look ugly. One of our fave tennis players. We ain't gonna say no names. She does that. She doesn't have to do that. She does that.
Rory
Serena Williams.
Julian
I didn't say name.
Rory
Johnny McEnroe, but yeah.
Damaris
Zendaya.
Rory
Zendaya plays tennis challengers.
Damaris
Have you guys seen it yet? It's really good.
Mal
I started it. I didn't finish very good.
Damaris
I liked it.
Rory
Wait, give me the. The bet. What's the whole.
Julian
You didn't see the commercials for it and everything? It had amazing promo.
Rory
I have a child. I don't really watch things.
Damaris
I just.
Julian
You do nothing else but watch things. What are you talking about now?
Damaris
You don't.
Rory
I watch Ms. Rachel. Missing was the first time I watched a movie in months. What? What's the Zendaya? Tennis.
Damaris
She plays a.
Mal
She was a tennis player. She got injured, and now she's like. I think she's a trainer.
Damaris
She's like, yeah, she's coaching. There's two guys that both fall in love with her. She ends up marrying one of them. And then it's like this whole love triangle she makes. It's like three different timelines.
Mal
She makes the make out and like that.
Damaris
Very good. It's a great movie.
Mal
That's when I stopped watching. Once they started making out, I was like, you know, turn the game on.
Rory
Wait, she makes who make out?
Damaris
She makes the guys 2.
Mal
The two guy tennis players. Like, it's like they almost have, like, a starter threesome in the room. They're both kissing her, and then they just get so into it. They're Kissing each other. And she's just sitting on the bed looking at them like.
Rory
I thought it was about tennis.
Damaris
It is.
Mal
That is tennis. It's double.
Rory
Like they left the doubles.
Mal
Never played doubles.
Rory
Not like that.
Mal
Have you had doubles?
Rory
I've only had three, actually. No, four. But I was the only dick in the room.
Mal
Yeah. I gotta finish that movie, though. It looked like it was good. The storyline looked great.
Damaris
It is good. It comes to a good close. It's kind of a cliffhanger.
Rory
All right, well, they're not like us.
Julian
None of y'all have seen Bad Boys yet.
Mal
I saw it.
Julian
You did? Did you like it?
Mal
I liked it.
Damaris
Would you say. What was your name?
Mal
It was a good movie. Where do I have it? I think it's 2.
Julian
2143. Right?
Mal
2143. I think this one is better than the third one.
Julian
Yeah, I like the third one.
Mal
The third one was a bad. The only. Nah, I'm not gonna lie. This one, though. Damn. I don't wanna spoil it, but when what's the name? Popped out and then he died in the shootout. You know who I'm talking about? I don't wanna say it. Cause I don't wanna spoil nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit pissed me off. I was like, this is so corny. First of all, why is he even in this movie? And then he dies. I'm like, the. Is this like, come on. That was the only part of the movie that was kind of corny and pissed me off, but because there's a.
Damaris
Bunch of random cameos and I was like, what could they be doing?
Julian
Yo, when Khaled popped out, that was hilarious.
Mal
Yeah, he.
Julian
Cat was in 3 2, though.
Damaris
Yeah, right?
Rory
He was.
Damaris
Does messy get killed?
Julian
No, no. Okay.
Mal
But it was a good movie, though.
Julian
It was good.
Mal
It was a good movie. I love the new camera work that they're doing. You know, things like that. Like, it was. It was a good movie. The storyline is dope and it's obviously gonna be another one, but. Yeah. 213-4. 2143.
Rory
Oh, wait, so you're saying with the ending, there's going to be another one? They left it that open ended?
Mal
Absolutely. Okay. Yeah.
Julian
With. Speaking of movies and tv, to all my House of the Dragon watchers, which is no one in this room watch the first.
Mal
They're.
Rory
They're in our mentions about that a lot. Yeah, I know. Our listeners definitely watch that.
Julian
They do. The first episode was good. It was good, but it wasn't great.
Damaris
I didn't see it yet. I Heard it was good, though.
Julian
It was like a cl. It was. It's leading up, so everybody was so disappointed because they wanted, like, blood and, like, they want revenge. It's like, this is a HBO show. The first episode is not going to be blood and revenge. So it's coming. I am Team Black over here. If you're anything else, I have nothing for you.
Mal
Yeah, I'm cool.
Julian
You would like it, though, Ma. You would. You would like it if you like. You said you liked Game of Thrones, right?
Mal
I did.
Julian
Then you would like House of the Dragon. It's. It's the same show. It's just.
Mal
But why Cisco ain't in it. My bad, baby. I'm sorry.
Rory
You was really trying, especially, like, in these times.
Mal
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
Like, you know, it would be more accepted. Yeah.
Mal
As soon as they cast Cisco. I'm on. I'm on. I'm watching. But they ain't got Cisco.
Julian
Have black people in this Game of Thrones.
Mal
There was no black people around. No dragons.
Damaris
Exactly.
Julian
They own it.
Mal
They own the dragon. We are the original, man. See, I tried to tell you that. You don't listen.
Rory
Yakub put me together with two pieces of steel. Like, I don't know what the you talking about. I'm on your side as long as you with me. If your man got a navel tattoo, how would you feel?
Julian
A navel tattoo?
Rory
Yeah, like, literally tattooed around his belly button.
Julian
Oh.
Damaris
Oh, my God.
Julian
Oh, God. No.
Damaris
The Marisa goes. And he's not in the navy.
Julian
Oh, I thought you meant, like. I thought you meant like a anchor or something on him.
Mal
No, just, like, around the ankle on him is crazy.
Damaris
Well, that's magic.
Julian
He ain't snitchy.
Mal
The marriage. The marriage. That is not how that goes. Just because you ain't stitch down. Just because you ain't snitch means you don't mean you put an ankle on you because you hold it down. We're not doing that. That's not. We're not trying that ankle.
Damaris
So it's like you stepping on.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
I ain't even.
Julian
You standing out.
Damaris
Business. Yeah.
Mal
I feel you.
Damaris
Remove me.
Mal
That's what's up.
Damaris
Gosh.
Mal
All right.
Rory
Before we close out, want to give a rest in peace to Chef James Kent.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Friend of ours. Very rough week.
Julian
From crown shy.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Crown shy. And Saga. Yes. Who you've met? Passed away. It's been. Yeah. My father's Day sucked. I was very fucked up about this.
Mal
Shout out my dog. Chef Jamal got the news and it's so crazy because I had spoke to him. He passed away Saturday. This past Saturday. I spoke to him. The Saturday before that he had hit me. He was like, yo, you ain't been by the restaurant in a minute. And I was like, yo, I'm gonna come check you. And I said, I'm gonna hit you next week and I might pull up on you. And I was in the house, I think I was doing laundry or something Saturday, and I had opened the Instagram and Crownshot had posted a picture of him. But you know, he always does that post pictures. He always got some Travis Scott, some sneakers. You shouldn't be working in the kitchen. And that was his shit. He gonna stun on you have on some crazy Nikes. So I said, oh, he probably just trying to stunt get the Travis Scotts off in the picture. And I started reading the caption and it said, you know, they were sad to announce that Chef Ken had passed away suddenly earlier that day Saturday. And that, that, that just. That me up. Cause when you talk about just good people, his story is so amazing. I mean he, he went from. He grew up, you know, in Manhattan and being a graffiti tagging up, like, you know, part of hip hop culture. He used to actually tag up on the building that Crown Shire the restaurant is now in. So just that circle of life and that full story of being a kid running around the streets of New York tagging up on buildings, to now owning one of the Michelin star restaurants in the city. Having a great. The overstory, the bar on the rooftop Saga restaurant on the rooftop as well. Just what he was doing in the restaurant culture in New York and abroad. But still being himself. Still being. Cause you go on crown shy and it's the original picture of Biggie in the kitchen.
Rory
He lived like the kid's dream. Like you're like, yo, I want to have a fake. Like the most high class restaurant ever, but only play mob deep. Yeah, yeah. And he did it like he really did what a kid's dream would be. I want to have the biggest restaurant in New York City, but only play the music I like.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
He was the sweet. When we had dinner with him, he was so nice.
Rory
Nicest guy ever and nice.
Mal
He's a one of one somebody that I'm gonna personally miss. I'm sure everybody that's ever worked with him is heartbroken because he was just one of those people that once you met him and you came into contact with him and had a conversation with him, you just felt like, this is a really good guy. Good person. So to lose him so unexpectedly so suddenly was. Was a lot. So prayers to the. Prayers to the family.
Rory
Two kids, 13 and 15 kids.
Mal
His wife, his brother Fizz. You know, just everybody that know him and. And love him and has had the pleasure of working with him. It's a tough time. So. So, you know, continuous prayers. Me, personally, I'm a miss him. That's my dude. That's my guy. But I am gonna. You know, I am excited to see them keep his legacy alive.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Excited to see where Crown Shy saga and overstory where they take it. I'm sure his wife is gonna do amazing things in his honor. His children are gonna do amazing things in his honor. But again, it's a sad time because, you know, Chef Kent was one of one man. He was really, really a gem and just a solid guy. And his spirit and his energy and his art will be missed. So prayers to the Kent family. Prayers to everybody at Crown Shy. If you're ever in New York and you want to experience just great dining, great food, great ambiance, go to Crown Shy. Go to and just enjoy culture, you know, I mean, and have a great time in honor of a wonderful guy, great chef, Chef Kent. Rest in peace and.
Rory
And. And run it up the way we do with streams. When people pass away, let everyone go to Crown shot. Not that they ever, like, needed.
Julian
Yeah, I used to call that. Call James to get my. Yeah, get me in, because they're packed.
Rory
Everybody. If you're ever in New York City, go to Crown shy. Run that shit up for his family. Spend as much fucking money as you possibly can at that spot, because they deserve it.
Mal
Great people, great staff, great place, great ambiance, great energy.
Rory
Like, what other place you get that type of food and listen to Prodigy.
Mal
Yeah, it's the great.
Rory
It's the greatest restaurant ever.
Mal
It was amazing. It was amazing what he was able to build. So rest in peace prayers. And me, personally, I'm definitely gonna miss dude because he was a. He was a great guy, man. Just a great guy.
Rory
He. He set up for Kia's birthday this year. Set everything up on the rooftop. Like, he was just one of the greatest. People. Didn't ask for anything. Say, yo, what you need?
Mal
Very solid. Very solid. Dude.
Rory
Her birthday. I bet y'all. Y'all have the whole terrace.
Mal
Great guy, man. Great guy. But on that note, be safe, be blessed. Life is fragile. Let's enjoy it. Let's spend more time having fun, loving each other than we do fighting and hating each other. Because this experience is very brief, so let's enjoy it as much as we can. We'll talk to you all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga, he's just ginger. Peace. New warrior mouth.
Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 279 | Congrats Kendrick
Release Date: June 21, 2024
In Episode 279 of "New Rory & MAL," hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, Rory and Mal delve deep into various topics surrounding Kendrick Lamar's recent performances, the dynamics of the West Coast hip-hop scene, personal relationships, and a heartfelt tribute to a dear friend. This episode is rich with insightful discussions, humorous exchanges, and candid reflections, making it both engaging and informative for listeners new and old.
Overview: Rory and Mal kick off the episode by promoting their upcoming live show in Philadelphia, expressing their enthusiasm for the city and the event. They transition into discussing Kendrick Lamar's recent performance at City Winery, highlighting the setlist choices and the overall execution of the show.
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Setlist Critique: Rory critiques Kendrick for including mainstream hits like "Swimming Pools," arguing that Kendrick, as a Pulitzer Prize winner, could have showcased deeper cuts to demonstrate his lyrical prowess.
Crowd Reception: The hosts acknowledge that despite their critiques, the audience, especially Patreon subscribers, enjoyed the performance, noting positive reactions to specific set components.
Overview: A significant portion of the conversation centers around the ongoing beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. Rory and Mal explore how this rivalry has influenced events and the broader West Coast hip-hop community.
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Impact on Show Dynamics: The beef acted as a catalyst for Kendrick's attempt to unify various LA artists, turning a potentially negative situation into a collaborative showcase.
Absence of Game: The missing presence of Game is scrutinized, with Rory and Mal speculating on past tensions and his exclusion from the event.
West Coast Image: The hosts debate the narrative that West Coast artists harbor resentment towards their own region, countering it with historical context and personal experiences.
Overview: Rory and Mal address the perception of the West Coast in the hip-hop industry, challenging the notion that there is widespread animosity towards the region's culture and musicians.
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Cultural Legacy: Emphasis on the longstanding contributions of West Coast artists like Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg, arguing against claims of regional disdain.
Kendrick's Role: Kendrick Lamar is portrayed as a unifying figure striving to mend and elevate the West Coast's image in the rap community.
Overview: Transitioning from music discussions, Rory shares personal anecdotes about his financial struggles and their impact on his romantic relationships. The conversation evolves into broader advice on dating when facing financial hardships.
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Financial Responsibility: Rory recounts a past experience where he overspent on a date, leading to regret and lessons learned about living within one's means.
Advice for Listeners: The hosts offer guidance on maintaining relationships amidst financial instability, emphasizing the importance of ambition and mutual support.
Overview: Towards the episode's end, Rory and Mal pay homage to their late friend, Chef James Kent, celebrating his legacy and the impact he had on their lives and the New York culinary scene.
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Legacy and Impact: Chef James Kent's journey from a graffiti tagger to a Michelin-starred chef is highlighted, showcasing his dedication and influence.
Crown Shy Promotion: The hosts encourage listeners to support Crown Shy, sharing personal experiences and the sentimental value of the establishment.
Emotional Reflections: Rory and Mal express their grief and admiration, underlining the importance of cherishing friendships and contributions to the community.
Overview: The episode concludes with light-hearted banter about movies like "House of the Dragon" and "Bad Boys," alongside humorous stories about personal social interactions and dating mishaps.
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Entertainment Talk: The hosts discuss their opinions on recent movies and TV shows, debating character portrayals and plot developments.
Dating Anecdotes: Rory shares comical stories of awkward dating experiences, reinforcing the episode's earlier themes on personal relationships.
Humorous Interactions: The dialogue includes playful teasing and light-hearted mock debates, adding a casual and relatable tone to the episode.
Episode 279 of "New Rory & MAL" offers a comprehensive exploration of Kendrick Lamar's influence on the West Coast hip-hop scene, the complexities of rap rivalries, and the personal challenges faced by the hosts in their relationships and financial lives. The heartfelt tribute to Chef James Kent serves as a poignant reminder of the importance of community and legacy. Through engaging conversations, notable quotes, and a natural flow, Rory and Mal provide listeners with both entertainment and valuable insights.
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This structured summary encapsulates the essence of Episode 279, ensuring that listeners gain a clear understanding of the key discussions and moments shared by Rory and Mal.