Episode 282 | Support Black Nepotism

Summary

New Rory & MAL: Episode 282 | Support Black Nepotism

Release Date: July 5, 2024
Hosts: Rory & MAL
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. BET Awards Review and Critique

Ownership and Sale of BET
The hosts delved into the recent news about BET (Black Entertainment Television), highlighting its current ownership situation.

• Rory (17:05): "I believe Disney's actually trying to sell them for 1.2 billion or something currently."
• Mal (17:11): "Yeah. It's a subsidiary of Paramount currently."

Lack of Talent in the Music Industry
Rory and MAL expressed concerns over the perceived decline in musical talent showcased at the BET Awards.

• Mal (17:57): "I think we have to do something, man, because this is. This BET Awards. I was watching it and I couldn't believe how bad it was."

Will Smith’s Performance
A significant portion of the discussion focused on Will Smith's recent performance at the BET Awards, critiquing his approach and the accompanying production.

• Rory (19:35): "I didn't agree with it."
• Mal (21:46): "But there is some hope they're not rushing into kids. I don't even think they want kids."

Childish Gambino and Other Performers
The hosts analyzed Childish Gambino's pajama-clad performance, questioning the choice of attire and its impact on honoring artists like Usher.

• Mal (34:12): "They can't be up there with no motherfucking window curtains on and your feet out honoring a man."

Usher’s Honor and Performances
When Usher was honored, the performances by artists like Childish Gambino and others were met with criticism for lacking the appropriate tribute.

• Damaris (38:18): "Well, they had to do women because he has no male peers."

Overall Show Critique
Rory and MAL concluded that the BET Awards are suffering from a lack of genuine talent and meaningful performances.

• Mal (65:48): "What you said was not fair. You're putting a name great on a player that wasn't great."

2. WNBA All Stars vs. USA National Team

The discussion transitioned to the WNBA, comparing the performances of the All Stars against the USA National Team.

• Julian (111:35): "That record is so big, I'd never want to hear it again."
• Mal (113:07): "Shout out to Kaitn Clark and Angel Reese. Man, they. Again, we spoke about the way they've lifted and elevated the WNBA platform."

Impact of Players
The hosts praised standout players like Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark for their contributions both on and off the court.

• Mal (111:57): "Shout out to Kaitn Clark and Angel Reese. Man, they... have pushed the WNBA platform forward."

3. Personal Voicemails and Relationship Advice

Towards the end of the episode, Rory and MAL opened the floor to listener voicemails, addressing personal relationship issues and offering advice.

Voicemail from Kalani
Kalani, a 27-year-old from the Bay Area, shared her struggles with a 44-year-old boyfriend who is hesitant to commit due to past infidelities.

• Damaris (124:23): "He's telling you he don't want to be with you. That's manipulation."
• Mal (126:20): "I'm telling y'all, she is the whole friend, but like, she's this about to have on the street."

Advice Given
The hosts provided frank and sometimes harsh advice to Kalani, emphasizing self-respect and caution in relationships with significant age differences.

• Rory (127:21): "If you don't feel like buying your own drinks, then no, you weren't wrong for not buying her drinks."
• Mal (131:03): "We've never seen it before. So it's like, okay, let it happen. Let it unfold."

4. Closing Remarks

In their closing, Rory and MAL reflected on the discussions, reiterated their support for Black and Hispanic nepotism in professional realms, and encouraged listeners to engage further through Patreon.

• Mal (149:10): "Shout out to Bronny James. Once again, fuck y'all for hating and being mad at nepotism. I support. Support black and Hispanic nepotism."
• Rory (148:45): "But for sure. Got voicemails. Shout out to her."

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Notable Quotes:

• Rory (19:35): "I didn't agree with it."
• Mal (17:57): "I think we have to do something, man, because this is. This BET Awards. I was watching it and I couldn't believe how bad it was."
• Damaris (127:45): "He doesn't want to be with you. He don't want to be with you. I don't give a fuck if he said, I don't want to be with you because I'm afraid."
• Mal (65:48): "You're putting a name great on a player that wasn't great."

Conclusion

Episode 282 of New Rory & MAL provided a critical examination of the BET Awards, highlighting concerns over the quality of performances and the influence of ownership on content. The hosts also engaged with listeners through personal voicemails, offering candid advice on relationship dynamics. Throughout the episode, Rory and MAL emphasized the importance of supporting genuine talent and navigating personal relationships with integrity.

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Transcript

[Rory]

Philadelphia, July 25th. City Winery. We will be there live. New Rory Mall. The campaign. You guys can decide. And it makes sense going to Philly first. Yeah, they were the first city. They popped this entire thing off. So it only makes sense that we start the campaign, AKA our live show in the City of Brotherly Love.

[Mal]

Tickets [e-mail] Merch will be available at the show. Hope to see y'all there.

[Rory]

You know, I ran in the Penn Relays three times. Yeah, yeah, It's a fact.

[Mal]

What place did you finish?

[Rory]

I mean, we were there.

[Julian]

Tough meat.

[Damaris]

No warrior now.

[Mal]

Bro.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry.

[Rory]

The arsonist has oddly shaped fe.

[Julian]

Speed is disgusting.

[Mal]

I thought.

[Rory]

No, I wasn't reading something from Twitter. Hold on.

[Mal]

Keep going. I guess the. The vocal cords go different octaves. You start low. That's how you read.

[Damaris]

Why you think I've been laughing this whole time?

[Rory]

Having an adult teach you that in the Harlem Forest Choir is kind of we year, though.

[Mal]

Tickets available now. New rory and ball.com.

[Rory]

Yes. Philly first. July 29th.

[Mal]

July 25th. City Winery.

[Rory]

Is it 9th? July 29th.

[Mal]

July 25th, 25th. Rory, you go to Philly the 29th to see who's.

[Rory]

All right.

[Mal]

Cool.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You got going on on the 29th, July 25th. Phil. Philadelphia City Winery. Get your tickets now.

[Rory]

Tough word to say.

[Mal]

Yeah. City Winery.

[Rory]

No, Philadelphia.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's a tough word to say.

[Rory]

Salad too many syllables.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's weird how they named cities. Like, I understand New York. It's the New York. What's Philadelphia?

[Julian]

Cream cheese. Yeah.

[Rory]

Wait, they named Philly after cream cheese?

[Julian]

Yeah, definitely.

[Mal]

You never had Philadelphia cream?

[Rory]

Of course I had, but I didn't. I thought that was named after the city. City was named after the cream cheese.

[Julian]

Like most origins. It's a Greek. Greek words for love and brother. That's why the city of brotherly Love.

[Rory]

Holy shit.

[Julian]

Because it's certainly not name after the people that live there.

[Mal]

Well, not anymore. Those people moved out.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No love in Philly.

[Julian]

There's no love.

[Mal]

Yeah. They. They, they. Those people that had love in Philly, they moved out.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Nothing.

[Rory]

Nothing about Eagles fan screams. Love.

[Mal]

Yeah. No, it's over.

[Rory]

But we are back. Had a brief hiatus.

[Mal]

Missed episode. We are back. Good to see everybody.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's been a while. Been a while.

[Rory]

Julian was gone for like a week. We haven't had the full crew in here, and I feel like Julian was.

[Mal]

Gone for a week.

[Julian]

That's amazing.

[Mal]

Damaris was here. Damaris was tanning and on rooftops and shit. She's been running around. If you have a rooftop pool in the tri state area, Paul Damaris, she will show up. She might make some of her amazing mango. What is it? Ceviche mango.

[Damaris]

It was pico mango.

[Mal]

Pico mango.

[Damaris]

Did you like it?

[Mal]

It was amazing.

[Rory]

Angel hairpin.

[Julian]

Not for that.

[Mal]

When yo she could make something for us. Why you. Yo, you sound like you mad.

[Julian]

I am.

[Mal]

You want to be. You gonna miss out on the mango? That's all I did.

[Julian]

I missed out.

[Rory]

Yeah, you were enjoy lemon chicken and pasta or whatever they serve at weddings.

[Mal]

Yeah, you went to Nando's. I know you went to Nando's in dc.

[Rory]

Every wedding has pasta and lemon chicken.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And you know, we know what you were doing. How did your best man speech go?

[Julian]

It was really fun. Officiating is great. And congrats to your brother.

[Mal]

Yeah, congrats to his. His.

[Julian]

His wife Kendall and Leoni. It was, it was a beautiful ceremony. I'm really happy I officiated it. First time officiating and I nervous. I'm open for hire. I loved it.

[Rory]

Did you do this one pro bono.

[Mal]

Or like this is.

[Julian]

Yeah, this was on the house.

[Rory]

You gotta set your race early.

[Julian]

This is on the house. This is for the. Yeah, for the family.

[Rory]

Did it for the love.

[Julian]

For the love. It was fun because it was. It was a moment to. Obviously it's serious, but it's short. But it's supposed to be fun, lighthearted. So there's a lot of time to make jokes and yeah, keep. Kept it clean. A lot of old people there, so you gotta, you know, play for the crowd. But it was fun.

[Mal]

I saw Black magic still the jumper still clicking like the toe. Booth. I saw it. Yeah, the jumper's still clicking. I saw it.

[Rory]

No, he was glowing this week.

[Mal]

Yeah, he shot that shit and walked away from it before it went in. He knew it. He knew that was good. Cuz sometime you, you. You play a sport long enough, you know, like soon as it leaves your hands, you like, that's a buck.

[Julian]

It's funny cuz we hit the court and that's the first time we shot around in like a couple years. And I have another great video of him from like Brooklyn during the pandemic. But he golfs a lot, so his. All his motions below the. Below his shoulders. He doesn't do this anymore.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

So we go out there and he's like, he. He doesn't step a foot in front of the three point line. So he's pinging it off the front of the rim. I'm like, dad, just take a step in. He's like, now, Fuck that. They kept backing up. And then once his shoulder loosened up. Money.

[Mal]

Yeah, boy.

[Julian]

73.

[Rory]

How would you dirty up the wedding vows, though? You said you kept it clean.

[Julian]

No, no, not the. Not. Not the vows or the best man speech. Oh, this. Well, so I told my brother and Leonie, I said, hey, look, I have a very serious note. Remember, I told you guys, like, I wrote, this letter is very dark and sad, and I don't want to, like, cast this, like, dark cloud on a beautiful day.

[Rory]

Perfect for a wedding.

[Julian]

As I said, I'll write you guys a Let mail it to you at another date. I have it written. I just have to put it. I just want to write it out. I don't want to, like, type on the letter. And then what I said is, once we establish that I'm probably not going to do a speech. And he was like, cool, Cool. So we go to the reception after the ceremony. Kendall hands me the mic and goes, yo, like, say something. I was like, what the. I thought we weren't gonna.

[Mal]

I'm gonna write it.

[Julian]

So, yeah, I was like, I'll send you the letter. And I'm, like, saying this off the mic. And then Lonnie comes over. She's like, no, go ahead. And I was like, so that was all off top. Oh, blacked out. Like, not off alcohol. Just, like, in the moment, blacked out. If there's film everywhere, I could find the film and share it. But I was great. I tried. I kept it short, kept it light, and. And that was the opportunity to be, like, more funny and just, like, kind of.

[Mal]

Did y'all cry?

[Julian]

I. So it was funny. When Leoni came down, when she was walking into the ceremony, I was looking at Kendall watching him cry, and I thought that would make me cry. But I. In that moment, I was just, like, talking to him, like, kind of just, like, coaching him, whatever. And then I cried when her mother did a blessing. And then after that, my mom did a blessing. And when I went down to stand next to my mom while her mother was reading her blessing, my mom and I were, like, small talking. And then as soon as she went up there and started talking, I lost it. That was it. That was it. And then I had to, like, get my together to go back up there to finish this.

[Mal]

Kendall was crying because he's, like, just the last piece of ass I'm gonna get in my life.

[Damaris]

What?

[Mal]

You know, Kendall was up there, like, this is it.

[Rory]

I mean, you never know. In like, 30, 40 years, they could end up on a swingers cruise. Yeah, but they could develop into a new relationship.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we know when you go on those things, swinger cruises, nude beaches, the. The pick of the litter is not.

[Rory]

What you think, especially on the cruise.

[Mal]

Yeah. You rather just be faithful? My wife looks better than all of these girls.

[Rory]

I'll just take the open bar and free ice cream on this.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Kendall was up there crying, you know, because he knew this is it.

[Damaris]

I'm is wrong with them.

[Rory]

I thought, that's a beautiful sentiment.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'm promising God to never cheat on this. This woman. Like, this is my life partner. I'm gonna honor death before dishonor and all of those other things.

[Rory]

I believe that's in the. The exact.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's exactly how I said it before. You put this ring on her, saying all that.

[Mal]

Yeah. I'll die before I live by the code.

[Rory]

Die by the code.

[Julian]

Yo.

[Damaris]

I'm definitely gonna put America.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I'm putting that in my. In my vows. Death before dishonor.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what it is. I'll die before I dishonor my wife. I'll die. Give me death.

[Julian]

But there is some hope they're not rushing into kids. I don't even think they want kids. So they're. They're just. They're vacationing. They're living life. They're going to Bali for their honeymoon. Like, they're, like, doing it right. They're crashing into, like, slowing down.

[Rory]

So B's on my. My list. Like, my bucket travel list.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

As soon as they lock Russell up, I'm going go. Yeah. Soon as they get his ass up out of here.

[Rory]

Moment you get there, you're going to see Puff and Russell.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know what?

[Mal]

Let's go somewhere else. I'll go visit B. Like, get them nasty out of here first.

[Rory]

Remember that church I was telling you guys about that I went to that made the pregnant women sit in the back?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I also went to a wedding for someone at that church.

[Mal]

No. He went to a church that made the pregnant women sitting as the bathroom back there?

[Rory]

It's like the last pew. If they had. If they had a baby outside of wedlock, you had to sit in the last pew.

[Julian]

Oh, while they were pregnant or post pregnancy?

[Rory]

Both. While they were pregnant.

[Julian]

I was going to say it could be a nice gesture while they were.

[Damaris]

Pregnant back there with the kids.

[Rory]

I told y.

[Damaris]

This story before. You did tell us, but you didn't tell us they had to sit back there after they had the kid.

[Mal]

Yes, that's you and your rugrats. Get to the back.

[Rory]

And then what was so annoying was if you got there late and you had to be in the second to last few, and then you just had a bunch of, like, fatherless children screaming behind you. It was never fun because it's. You know, it's hard to hear the Lord when you have a toddler screaming.

[Mal]

Yeah, naturally.

[Rory]

But that same pastor, right? So I went to a wedding, and he conducted the wedding out the gate. You know, the I dos. That part takes, like, 10 minutes.

[Julian]

Not at all.

[Rory]

He said, yo, I'm so happy to be here. And you want to know why? Not because I've known this woman her whole life. It's because it's a man and a woman and not two men. And then went on a gay rant for about 30 minutes while the bride and the groom are just standing there like this.

[Julian]

I should have done that.

[Mal]

You missed Java, too.

[Julian]

Just roll up the script.

[Mal]

This is a real wedding.

[Rory]

Like, not two people love each other. Like, I'm just so happy. It's a man and a woman.

[Mal]

This is what weddings were designed for. Men and women, not that other thing that's going on out there.

[Rory]

Listen, man, if people think white rednecks are the most homophobic, people just go to the hood.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I said, oh, God, black people are awful.

[Julian]

DC is super gay, by the way.

[Mal]

Yeah. Know that.

[Damaris]

You had a ball.

[Julian]

Like, I. Yeah, of course I'm gay. Whatever.

[Rory]

Extra product in there.

[Julian]

No, I. I was saying, like, I know. I understand. It was during June, so, like, every bar, every establishment had, like, the pride. They go overload there. But I was like, yeah, like, I get it from, like, the business perspective. But then I was looking around, I was like, every couple, every, like, dinner couple, every walking couple, every. Every couple was just a gay couple. I was like, is this, like. This is just dc? I didn't know how gay.

[Rory]

Like, but it's also the last weekend of Pride.

[Julian]

Well, they don't just go into hiding. They live there.

[Rory]

No, but it's like, that's the biggest weekend, is it not?

[Mal]

Well, some of them do go into hiding. There's. Some of them ain't come out that closet yet, but.

[Rory]

Yeah. How that debate when it's. It's looking like they may need to hide, but we'll get to that. Yeah, but no, the last weekend, because they had the pride parade here.

[Julian]

So they had. They have theirs a different I was.

[Mal]

Mad I missed it.

[Julian]

They stagger them because they don't want to do all the big cities the same weekend.

[Rory]

Yeah, they do the same thing with St. Patrick's Day. I'm serious.

[Mal]

They stagger.

[Rory]

Like, Jersey City won't do it right. On St. Patrick's Day because Manhattan does it. And, like, Hoboken will do it a different day than Jersey City because we.

[Mal]

Want y'all to come here, too.

[Rory]

Yeah, I get it. So everyone can make their rounds thinking.

[Mal]

That people that go to the Jersey City parade won't go to the Hoboken parade because it's like.

[Rory]

No, they purposely do it different days because everyone wants to go to all.

[Damaris]

Of them and so that a gunman won't just run around and shoot everybody at once. Like, you can't get, like, two parades in one day.

[Julian]

That's why. I don't know if that's why.

[Rory]

And I don't know. Usually the shooters.

[Mal]

No, no, no.

[Rory]

Shooters are from the St. Patrick's Day parade.

[Damaris]

I was talking about crime.

[Mal]

But not.

[Rory]

Not St. Patrick's Day parade is safe because those shooters are actually in the parade marching.

[Mal]

Yo, baby, they be having the craziest stats. Like, where you get your data from? Like. Yeah, where did you read that? Yeah, I remember when Baby D said, nah, the white people march with the black people so that they could shield them from.

[Damaris]

And then every. Told you that I was right.

[Mal]

It was two people that said.

[Rory]

It was two priests. Yeah, we did. We. We fact check.

[Damaris]

No, it was more than that. I'm not going into that. I was already proven right. You already apologized to me that I was right. So we're just gonna. That fact. I was right.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I think that's white people.

[Damaris]

This I just made up.

[Mal]

I think that's the white people that go with the black people. They know. Like, I. I find it hard to believe that if my black ass was at a Black Lives Matter rally and the cops start fucking me up, that some white people that didn't know me were going to come and help me. Just doesn't happen like that.

[Julian]

I don't know. That time was wild. They were doing some crazy shit to get likes by blacks.

[Damaris]

They were on their knees kissing black people's feet. You had.

[Mal]

They do that every day on 125th street with the Israelites.

[Damaris]

You had the. You had the fucking Congress or the senators, whoever. They were down there in kente cloth. Do y'all not remember 2020 and how.

[Julian]

Fucking this was them. Remember they were asking black people for forgiveness thank you.

[Damaris]

So you can't believe that they would line up in front of you on the front line so that the police wouldn't hit you. You can't believe that that would happen.

[Mal]

A mental illness, though.

[Rory]

Wait, wait, wait, Mo. You're telling me now those white people.

[Mal]

In there, those are mentally ill whites?

[Rory]

This new set of whites, the ones.

[Julian]

After my standing on. They're standing on pavement that says George.

[Rory]

Floyd are bowing down to Israelites at 125th.

[Mal]

You didn't know that?

[Rory]

We used to cross the street when we heard them yelling. We were petrified.

[Mal]

Yeah, but no, there's some people. There's some white people that go up to them and start having a conversation, like about the Bible and, you know, all of that, and they start breaking it down. And then when they feel like, oh, damn, I've been wrong about y'all all my life. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Now get on your knees and kiss my feet. And they. They start doing that. I'm telling y'all. Some real. Go to. So any baby that's been happening in Harlem, yo, I've seen that forever.

[Rory]

These liberals at Columbia are taking this to the next level.

[Mal]

Yeah. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's a crazy time in the world right now. But I think it's entertaining, so. It is what it is, man.

[Rory]

Oh, man. I mean, y'all know what side I'm. I'm on with Israelites, so.

[Mal]

Yeah, I get it.

[Rory]

I'm just. I'm not kissing anyone's feet.

[Mal]

No, no, no, no.

[Rory]

I rock with y'all.

[Mal]

That's what I'm saying. That is a. That's a. That's a specific type of person that will get down and kiss a random person's feet.

[Rory]

I never saw that George Floyd clip before. That's wild.

[Julian]

There's some even worse ones out there.

[Damaris]

We lived in a very insane time.

[Mal]

It was crazy. It was 2020 was by far 2020. And most of 2021 was by far some of the weirdest times where we will ever live through.

[Rory]

I mean, you can just have good dialogue with your black friends and do your part.

[Damaris]

Nah, why would they do that?

[Julian]

Why would you do it in private? You gotta do it in public.

[Rory]

You can educate yourself. Talk to your black friends.

[Damaris]

No, they wanna CE mal. How was your weekend?

[Mal]

It was a little bittersweet. I had to go to. Went to a funeral service for my guy, Chef Jamal James Kent. Rest in peace to chef. But the service was. It was a beautiful service. Then they had A celebration of life later on that night at the refinery, the Domino sugar refinery. And I think it's in Brooklyn, in Williamsburg. Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful space.

[Rory]

They just redid it, right?

[Julian]

Yeah. It's a big project. A lot of money.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's a beautiful. It was, you know, it was a sad occasion, but it was also talking to people there. I was like, yo, Chef is definitely, like, smiling because some of the. Obviously, some of the top chefs in the world were there. They had a bunch of stations set up where, you know, all of the chefs had prepared food. So it was food. You know, stretch Armstrong was DJing. Questlove, did a set. So it was music. It was everything that Chef was. He was from New York. It was New York to the fullest in there. Everybody had on sneakers, like, because that was Chef's thing. The food was incredible. The ambiance, the atmosphere. It was a beautiful night for a sad occasion, being that Chef passed, but it was definitely a beautiful night. So I did that. And after that, I just was with the fam, couple friends, hung out a little bit in the city, went to eat. Nothing crazy. Okay. I kept it chill for the most part.

[Rory]

Well, yeah. Rest in peace to Chef, man.

[Mal]

Rest in peace to Chef Kent. And if you're ever in New York City and you get a chance, stop by Crown shy, have a drink, get something to eat if you want. You know, if you want to go to overstory and get a drink, they're still in business. They're still pushing forward with a lot of the things that Chef had set out to do. So if you're ever in New York City, definitely stop by Crown shy and, you know, have a drink in honor of talented and legendary Chef Kent.

[Rory]

Yeah, I feel like a lot. A lot happens in the week that we haven't been here.

[Mal]

Yeah, we missed. It felt like a month. What happens when you just take a couple of days off and just let the world do what they do now?

[Rory]

The same things happen.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. Where do we want to start? You want to start with bet?

[Rory]

Start light and then get to the shit that happened right after we. Our last episode, I think the night of.

[Mal]

Okay. All right, so let's do that.

[Rory]

We'll go with BET to start.

[Mal]

Let's start with the bet. First of all, shout out to everyone that was nominated or won a BET Award this weekend in Los Angeles. Obviously, the BET Awards is a staple. We grew up watching. We grew up supporting. It's our night. Quote unquote, Black entertainment, quote unquote is crazy. You know, I mean, quote unquote, it's our night, if you want to call it that. So. Yes. I don't know which. Which one this was which. How many awards have there been so far? This is the. Whatever annual. Whatever number it was. Who gives a shit?

[Julian]

Doesn't matter.

[Mal]

I think that it's time to have a real conversation about BET. Who owns BET? Who runs BET?

[Rory]

I believe Disney's actually trying to sell them for 1.2 billion or something currently.

[Mal]

Listen.

[Rory]

Or Paramounts. Paramount's trying to sell to Disney. Something was in those headlines. Let's fact check that.

[Julian]

Yeah, It's a subsidiary of Paramount currently.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So Paramount's trying to sell it for over a billion dollars. So, I mean, I guess that should give you your answer. But you're saying BET in general or the BET Awards?

[Mal]

BET in general.

[Rory]

Okay. Because I've been on the side of. Of the BET Awards being pretty good for the last five years. I think they've gotten it kind of right.

[Mal]

I don't think so. I think that the. And it's not. I don't want to put it all because there's a. It's a bigger story. It's a bigger conversation to have. It's not just bt. I think that the BET Awards that just happened spoke to the lack of talent that we have right now in the music industry.

[Rory]

Lack of talent that's being pushed to the mainstream, you mean? Yeah, but I don't know if that's a BET Awards fault.

[Mal]

No, I didn't say that. I said.

[Rory]

I said it's part of the ecosystem, but it's.

[Mal]

They're picking from what they have.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And they're trying to put together their best show, but it's. We have to do something, man, because this is. This BET Awards. I was watching it and I couldn't believe how bad it was.

[Rory]

But why do you say it was.

[Julian]

What was bad about it, Mom?

[Mal]

Well, first of all, they only give out how many awards on tv.

[Rory]

They.

[Julian]

Well, yeah, they only do a cut of certain awards for television.

[Mal]

Yeah. And then the performances.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Say who sucked? Say it.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean, I think everybody sucked outside of Victoria Monet and Teyana Taylor.

[Damaris]

You gonna put some respect on Chloe Bailey name? That's what you gonna do.

[Mal]

Oh, she was good, too.

[Damaris]

She was the best performance of the night. You gonna put some respect.

[Mal]

I don't know if she did better than Victoria.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

I don't know if she performed better than Victoria. Victoria Monet is a superstar. She is the next superstar that we have right now. The one that I think everybody can look at. I like Chloe, too. She did her thing.

[Julian]

You didn't like Will Smith's return?

[Mal]

And that's another. See, I. No, because I thought when they announced Will Smith, I thought Will was gonna address the audience. I thought he was gonna speak to the BET audience. His audience, his people. Cause we haven't had Will Smith at an award show since, obviously, the whole Chris Rock incident at the Oscars. So I thought he was gonna use this platform to talk to us.

[Damaris]

Specifically, the song talks.

[Mal]

Turn that shit off. Nobody want to hear that.

[Julian]

You don't want a new Will smith song in 2020.

[Mal]

I don't want to hear it.

[Rory]

The sun coming up.

[Mal]

I don't. And I know it beats it's grand rising.

[Rory]

He's moving on from the person he was when he smacked Chris Rock.

[Mal]

Cut the shit.

[Damaris]

I actually hate that he did this. And the reason why I hate that he did this is because Will Smith doesn't need a. You don't need a redemption. Like, you don't need the black church ladies to forgive you. You smack that nigga. It's okay. Let's move on.

[Julian]

You just grossed, like a billion dollars in, like, a box office. Like, you're straight, bro.

[Rory]

Yeah, but, you know, Hollywood and just entertainment works in general. Like, they love a comeback. You have to have to do this and add the sauce to it to just show you're a new person, because that's what the.

[Mal]

Yeah, but he ain't a new person.

[Damaris]

He ain't a new person.

[Mal]

Of course, again, let Chris make another GI Jane joke.

[Rory]

So you guys think these celebrities that go to rehab, then do the Gayle King interview and then just get right back on drugs?

[Mal]

Come on, man.

[Rory]

Of course they were lying to us. This is just part of the story.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's. See, I wouldn't have been mad at it if Will took that time. Have him perform. Great. He's Will Smith. He's. You know, he's fucking. He's one of the most legendary artists and performers that we have. We understand that. But I would've liked for him to address the audience and address the viewership about, you know, obviously what happened a few years ago. Cause this was his first appearance at an award show since that. So I thought that they would have used this moment for Will to just say, yo, listen, man, you know, we make mistakes. I made a mistake. It was fucked up. You know, like, it was wrong. I apologize to people.

[Julian]

They hit him with the record.

[Rory]

When has Will ever been that guy? Since Maybe boycotting the Grammys, whatever year that was.

[Mal]

Yeah, but don't, don't, don't. Don't not be that guy. But then show up to the BET Awards to perform a new record that nobody cares about.

[Rory]

I think one of the most human moments we've gotten from Will is him smacking Chris Rock out of all the built up anger he's been holding onto for a decade and said, keep my fucking wife's name. That was the most human moment I've seen. I didn't agree with it.

[Mal]

I'm cool with that.

[Rory]

Thought it was corny.

[Mal]

I'm cool with that.

[Rory]

But that was the most human moment I've seen from him. I don't think we're ever gonna get another human moment from him.

[Mal]

And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with people making mistakes. But my thing is, we don't need this performance.

[Rory]

You don't need a choir.

[Mal]

We don't need Sunday service choir. We don't need you to say kirk Franklin. We know that's Kirk Franklin. We can see him. Like, we don't. We just don't.

[Rory]

We don't need that for the new fans.

[Mal]

Yeah, but this is. It's just like BET used. Bet used this Will Smith moment because they knew people would tune in to see Will Smith because this was his first time at an award show.

[Rory]

But it's also. Will is putting out new as well.

[Julian]

This wasn't just for that moment.

[Rory]

Will is using Coachella. Will is using BET the same way any other artist would.

[Julian]

Why would he put out more music?

[Rory]

Nothing wrong with that. They were using each other.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I just. Don't use me, though. You can use bet. You can use Will Smith. But don't use me. Like. Don't give me that. Because it's just like, all right, the performance. Cool. I still don't know the name of the record. I'm not gonna download.

[Rory]

I don't either.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna stream.

[Julian]

It's called you can make it off his upcoming album, Mall. Get it ready for this name Dance in your darkest moments.

[Damaris]

Ew. No way. That's the name of the album.

[Mal]

See what I'm saying?

[Damaris]

All right.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You think he slapped him for the rollout?

[Damaris]

All my faves just.

[Rory]

This was always the plan.

[Damaris]

My own case. This is craz.

[Julian]

So lame. You know his white ass PR team Sav now is like, this is your look. It's your dark. You're down bad. But we still dancing because you're Will. We love you.

[Rory]

This is probably the same exact PR team that did Justin Timberlake. Man in the woods. This feels like the same.

[Mal]

And this wouldn't be that. That. That Oscars moment wouldn't have been considered a dark moment. If he slapped Chris Rock at the BET Awards. We wouldn't have cared about it that much. But the fact that it was on an Oscar stage in front of that part of Hollywood.

[Julian]

I can't wait to see his album cover.

[Mal]

That, that. That demographic. Now it's my darkest. If that was that beat. Not many get slapped at the BET Awards. Get slapped every year at the Beta. Ain't nobody having nothing in Tony, Yayo.

[Rory]

And Gunplay getting a full fair one at the beach, you know, I mean.

[Mal]

Like, that happens at the bet. Nobody would have been tripping like that have been like, oh, Will Smith slapped the out of Chris Rock at the BET Awards.

[Rory]

I don't think the darkest moments, the Chris Rock shit, I think was the end of the dark moment. Like, if he doesn't discuss all that other shit. I don't give a fuck about the Chris Rock thing. That was manifesting all the dark moments into his hand.

[Mal]

Listen, man.

[Rory]

And then trying to get them out.

[Mal]

Will is from Philly.

[Rory]

Chris Rock, that's not a dark matter. That's just you holding shit forever because you didn't address your dark moments. So you went and did that.

[Mal]

So don't give me this performance.

[Rory]

So there's not a whole record, a diss record to August Alsina. I don't really care about dancing to his darkest moments.

[Damaris]

To be fair, BET always has a gospel segment with some. Somebody with a choir always come out, whether it's Adam Franklin. This year was Will with Kirk.

[Rory]

Because we know Will to be that right.

[Mal]

No gospel artist.

[Damaris]

So what he can. You can change. You can make a gospel song.

[Mal]

Will ain't changed. Yo, Will. Slap the shit out of somebody tomorrow.

[Julian]

Oh, wait a minute. Because as the music faded out, Will said, nobody gets an easy ride. We all have our cross to bear. But there is wisdom in that fire. And every single moment of your life is a brand new opportunity. We are not afraid. We are not being punished. We are not being forged. Dance in your darkest, dog.

[Rory]

You playing victim for smacking someone is hilarious.

[Mal]

Like, get the fuck out.

[Damaris]

He's not playing victim.

[Mal]

Yes, he is.

[Damaris]

I don't think that he's. This is my thing. And like, he didn't even play victim.

[Rory]

When his wife was fucking someone in their crib. But now he's playing victim because he smacked someone else.

[Mal]

We all have a cross to bear, Nigga, you just slap somebody. What cross is that?

[Damaris]

The bear, I feel like. Okay, get your jokes off. Do you think?

[Mal]

No, I'm being serious.

[Rory]

Truth.

[Damaris]

Is that important? No, go ahead.

[Mal]

What is the truth? He didn't.

[Rory]

Please tell us. This is my honest opinion.

[Damaris]

Okay, yes, he slapped somebody. But y'all are making it about the slap. Very obviously, Will was not in the best mental state, and that led to the slap. It's not like he was just like, happily a great person. Mental was good and he slapped somebody. No, because if it was.

[Mal]

Just because you slap somebody don't mean you're not in the best mental state. Sometimes niggas need to be smacked.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Mal]

So it is what it is. But don't do. Don't give me this rollout of we all have across the bear. But there's wisdom in that fire. You just mad because them white people said you can't come back to the Oscars for a few years. That ain't across the bed.

[Rory]

And you have a movie and album to sell.

[Mal]

Yeah, fuck the Oscars.

[Damaris]

Okay, well, he don't have a movie to sell. The movie sold. Movie is so selling very well.

[Mal]

Clearly he ain't missing no meals no time soon.

[Rory]

He's Will Smith, a lister.

[Damaris]

So I think that. I do think that Will certified a lister.

[Rory]

Smack Chris from A to B.

[Julian]

He smacked from B. He smacked him down a peg.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Immediately became a B lister. Well, I like to me, all right, to me this weird comparison, but, like, have you ever seen criminals murder people for decades, then they get caught, and then they get on the stand like, I want to change my life and I'm going to tell on everyone. And now I'm a Christian. This is the same shit to me, all right? You did some bullshit, you smacked Chris Rock, and now you're reaping all the consequences because you can't go back to the Oscars. And now it's like, well, it was a dark time. We're all. We all have a cross to bear. I'm a Christian now. Take me back.

[Damaris]

Is it possible that I don't want.

[Rory]

To reap the consequences of my actions? So let me go this route?

[Damaris]

Is it possible that he actually feels this way?

[Mal]

Maybe Will Smith is from Philadelphia. He don't feel no type of way about slapping a nigga in the face.

[Damaris]

I'm not talking about the slap. July 25th, y'all are making a slap. I'm not talking about the slap. Is it possible that he wasn't in a great mental state, period? The Slap. And now he's on a healing journey, and he wants to release art about it. Y'all sit up here and complain about all the negative. Shoot them up, kill them, murder them. Music that we get, and then somebody releases positive music, and y'all find a way to tear it apart.

[Rory]

So I'm just making sense.

[Mal]

I would tell Will Smith's music apart even if he didn't slap nobody.

[Julian]

If there wasn't listening to that, if that moment didn't happen, this album would not be coming out.

[Damaris]

It. Okay, but at the end of the day, it's positive music if he wants.

[Mal]

To release it back. Baby D, I think you missed what I'm saying.

[Rory]

I'm listening.

[Mal]

I'm not mad with the music. I'm just saying if you're going to give us a performance like that at the BET Awards, I think you also have to give Will Smith that time to say, listen, I think you not this little the. That they put in the description once your song releases on dsps. Don't give me that speech. Give me. Yo, listen, man. We all know what happened a couple years ago on that Oscar stage. It's fucked up. It was terrible. Whatever. Whatever. Like, you know, like, I spoke to Chris. Maybe I didn't. Whatever. Address the audience. Don't give me this shit.

[Damaris]

Why would he address the audience two years later?

[Mal]

Because this is his first time on a stage at a fucking show since that happened. This is his first time in front of a fucking. A show in front of an audience where people are sitting there and we all know what happened. So if you're gonna give me this redemption song, if you gonna give me this redemption song and have the Sunday Service behind me and have Kirk Franklin come out the back after he done did 20 burpees.

[Rory]

Then I just found out who his father was.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, Will, then give me the. Yo, listen, man. Bet this is my first time in front of y'all since all of that shit happened.

[Damaris]

I let Roar. I let it. I just let it.

[Rory]

I wanted Kurt to maybe address that on stage, too. Cause that was a crazy, craziest story I ever heard in my life.

[Damaris]

I didn't say that. I just was gonna let him rock.

[Rory]

I like when Friday gets in his gospel bag, though. It just felt very much like an easy way for Will not to have to address the. That he.

[Julian]

Wait. It's literally the Sunday Service choir.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yes. That's what I'm saying. It's like this whole production. I cut this shit. We know it.

[Rory]

I'm not mad at Will, per se. I'm just mad at this system that big celebrities do every single time where they don't have to take accountability, they don't have to have consequences really happen to them. They don't have to address anything. They can have a PR team that just puts them into this Christian box, throws it in our face, and we're just supposed to move?

[Julian]

I'll never fall for that.

[Rory]

Everyone else has to literally live in the decisions they make and deal with the consequences and come to the front of the stage when we fuck up. But these guys can just get a slot at a fucking award show, get the Sunday service choir, and now it's like, damn, Will is a good guy.

[Damaris]

You know, I'm just wondering.

[Rory]

I overestimated that whole smacking someone that was minding their business on stage.

[Damaris]

So he had. He wasn't minding his business. But we're not gonna go into that. We're not gonna reap, write history, rewrite history a lot. Was not minding a business.

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

Well, he. I mean, he was talking about everyone.

[Julian]

But he was doing his job.

[Rory]

But come on, we already had. He didn't say, come up here and fight me.

[Damaris]

At the end of the day, we already had this conversation about the history between him, Will, and Jada and why that joke specifically. We already had this conversation 50 times. So this isn't about that. What I'm saying is if somebody has a spotless career to the point where they didn't even cuss in their rap music, they're like, they literally could have been a fucking Disney star. A spotless career. They make one big fuck up on a big stage. You're sitting up here saying, oh, my God. Celebrities don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. How did he not have to deal with the consequences of his actions?

[Mal]

Because he was able to release a box office smash and sell over a billion in sales in a week.

[Damaris]

Because what he did was not that horrific. You literally sit up there and say that people get smacked.

[Mal]

That's my point to you. It wasn't that horrific. So why are we getting this whole redemption song together?

[Damaris]

I get what you're saying. He's saying, oh, celebrities don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. You don't think that he's faced enough consequences for that little ass action?

[Mal]

What's he faced?

[Damaris]

What do you think?

[Rory]

What does he face?

[Mal]

He just can't go to the Oscars for a couple years.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Julian]

No, like, for real, though, what happened?

[Damaris]

His peers were, bro. He Was in the fucking news headlines for months. His own peers were.

[Mal]

He's been in. He's the Will Smith. He's in the news headlines every other month, okay? When Jada was fucking August, Alsina, he was in the headlines. When they sat down at the red table, he was in the headlines. That's who Will Smith is. He's one of the biggest stars we have. He's gonna be in the headlines. My thing is, don't give me this fake redemption song and dance shit. When you just slap somebody, it's like, come on, bro. Like, I get it. You slapped him. You shouldn't have. That was corny. We all agree to that. You shouldn't have slapped Chris Rock. That was whack. But we ain't say, yo, Will, get outta here. You canceled.

[Rory]

And I also don't want him cancel Will for that to do like a Onyx remake and double down on the smack. Like, just neither of those options.

[Julian]

Nah. But he said, God opens a window when the devil closes the door. Believe me, they tried to bleed Will Smith in the rear view. I see Adversity was the gift to lift me higher. Gifts require faith ducking all accountability.

[Rory]

I was first person on this pod to come up and say how excited I was when he did the Men in Black at Coachella.

[Julian]

That was cool.

[Mal]

We all love Will Smith.

[Rory]

We can just.

[Mal]

That was great.

[Julian]

That was tight.

[Rory]

This is not a specific thing with Will. We have just seen this same exact play happen in PR history non stop. And. And it's getting annoying in place.

[Julian]

Like when Bieber did it, it's put out on purpose. Like, one of my favorite albums. It's a amazing album. But they painted a cross on his chest for the album cover. It's like, come the on, like, what are we doing here?

[Mal]

Yeah, it's just. That's.

[Rory]

At least yo. I'll give Beeves even more credit, though, because he did the corny Christian route, but at least he did a roast and then went up there. And.

[Julian]

Yeah, true.

[Rory]

After the roast was like, I'm a Christian now. You guys can't say anything bad about me. Anything I've ever done bad.

[Mal]

That's what Will.

[Rory]

Don't speak to me. Yeah, if Will did a roast, Will.

[Mal]

Needs to get roasted.

[Rory]

That, like, to me, Will needs to get roasted. At least there's some accountability.

[Mal]

And you know who has to host it?

[Rory]

Chris Rock.

[Mal]

Chris Rock.

[Julian]

They gotta let him close it.

[Mal]

Chris Rock has to host the roast.

[Rory]

And you know what's funny? If the two of them probably had a conversation I think Chris Rock would be down for that with no hard feelings.

[Damaris]

No, it's not. They already. They already said before that Will was reaching out. Reaching out, reaching out, trying to get in touch with Chris. Chris don't want nothing to do with him.

[Mal]

No. Chris don't want to have a conversation about hearing he's sorry he fucked up.

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't give a fuck.

[Mal]

Let me go on stage and roast your ass in front of millions of people, though. Let me go up there and pan fry your ass and then we cool again.

[Rory]

And matter of fact, when Chris Rock did his live Netflix show, most of the response was he took it way too far. He just kept calling them bitches. Like, that was. How could you do that to. The Smiths? Just smacked him on stage. You can't call him a bitch for doing a bitch move.

[Mal]

Right?

[Damaris]

He was calling her a bitch. I think that's what people were complaining.

[Rory]

No, he was calling. I mean, I think he probably called Jada. He called Jada a bitch, but he was mainly calling Will a bitch.

[Damaris]

The backlash was for calling Jada a bitch. That's what the backlash was for.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think I do remember it being that. But either way, the BET Awards was very light. And then let's get to the. The horrendous part of the night honoring Usher.

[Julian]

Now, what didn't you like about this?

[Mal]

I'm gonna get to it. How much time you got? Usher is by far one of the most talented artists that we have ever had and probably will ever have. I think that's solidified. We know that. So when they said they were honoring Usher, I was like. And I think we talked about it, like, damn, you gotta really get motherfuckers that could perform. If you gonna honor somebody like Usher, a great performer as he is, you gotta have people up there that's gonna really, like, do it justice. So they get into the honoring of Usher, and the first nigga we see is Childish Gambino in a pajama set like, he's in Cabo.

[Rory]

That is definitely a resort dinner outfit for sure.

[Julian]

Don't do that.

[Mal]

Don't do what?

[Julian]

It's a great outfit.

[Mal]

No, it's not.

[Julian]

All right, never mind.

[Rory]

Oh, I don't mind.

[Mal]

Actually, you know what? I'll take that back. It's not a bad outfit. It's a very much outfit. If you're honoring another man. All white linen.

[Julian]

You don't want an all white linen suit.

[Mal]

You can't be up there with no motherfucking window curtains on and your feet out honoring a man. You can't do that. This is the same shit he went to the.

[Julian]

Why notes aren't.

[Mal]

This is the same shit he went to the BET Awards in. He had just presented an award in that name.

[Rory]

Change this nigga. Listen, Donald Glover should have brought an overnight bag.

[Mal]

Donald Glover is one of the most talented, most creative people we have. There's no doubt about that. I think he's from the same cloth as a Jamie Foxx. Like, he is one of those type of talented people love Donald Glover, but you cannot honor another man. And we can see through your clothes.

[Julian]

All right, so the issue was the fit, not the actual song.

[Mal]

That was the fit. Look at him. It's a good fit.

[Damaris]

Well, I'm gonna.

[Julian]

I like it.

[Mal]

It's a good fit. Not for this. This nigga was about to go have fucking lunch in fucking Mexico. He looks amazing.

[Rory]

Okay, but you don't think Usher, especially in his early days, Usher didn't want to see questionable things of that era.

[Mal]

Usher ain't never was on stage with his feet out.

[Rory]

Well, to be fair, the My Way video.

[Mal]

Show me Usher with his f. I.

[Rory]

Was young, but I remember that era of Usher.

[Mal]

I don't give a fuck what you saying. Show me Usher on stage with his.

[Rory]

Age group was received very well on how Usher was dressing during the My Way era.

[Mal]

Show me Usher on stage with his feet.

[Julian]

I mean, he never wore a shirt.

[Damaris]

What I will say is that looking at the production of what they. I doubt that it was his idea to wear that. No, no, the feed out was definitely his idea, I think. But I'm talking.

[Mal]

That was a last minute addition when Donald Glover walked.

[Damaris]

I don't think so because Kiki also had white on. He has white on. And the blue lights that the dancers have. What? That was on purpose. They told him to wear white. Like I. I can look like. The creative director told him.

[Mal]

So that means put on linen with no drawers.

[Damaris]

Who said he had no drawers on?

[Rory]

That's why I'm the same.

[Julian]

That's wild.

[Mal]

Yeah, I was watching my television. What the you mean I peaked?

[Rory]

I mean, you got crazy in his.

[Mal]

Dressing room and opened the door like, yo, what you wearing? I'm watching my television. The first person we see is Donald Glover with Lennon on his feet. Out.

[Rory]

Okay, fair enough. And he did his favorite spin move, the Donald Glover spin. Keke Palmer. Does that not make sense to you?

[Mal]

I get it, I get it. But Keke Palmer wasn't supposed to be up there honoring us.

[Julian]

Yeah, but we know why she Is.

[Mal]

I just said I get it, but come on, man.

[Damaris]

I think it would have been better if someone else was to do it and they brought Keke on stage to dance. Keke should not have been singing.

[Rory]

I kind of feel like if we're starting with Childish, we should go right to Ciara. Like, we should get right to the shits.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Ciara would have been perfect for this. I know. She's.

[Damaris]

Sierra just had a baby or is having a baby.

[Rory]

I know, but I'm just saying, hypothetically, if someone's honoring Usher, Ciara's, like, the first person in my head.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Victoria Monet came out.

[Rory]

Makes sense to me.

[Mal]

Makes a lot of sense. Amazing.

[Rory]

Teyona Taylor came out dancer.

[Mal]

Makes a lot of sense to me. And I like the whole spin on having the women honor Usher because, you know, Usher has had his residency and he's been serenading the women, and I get that whole spin on it. Coco Jones was even great.

[Rory]

Perfect.

[Mal]

Great. But I just think when you talk about honor and Usher and this is what you come up with, I think that it speaks to the lack of options that we have right now in the music industry.

[Damaris]

Well, you're saying a lack of options, but you've literally said everybody but Kiki. Everybody but Keke Palmer and Childish Gambino did amazing. She did fucking amazing. You need to go watch that performance again. She did. Chloe didn't.

[Rory]

Chloe surprised me. I. I like her, and I think she's extremely talented.

[Mal]

She's a great performer. We know.

[Rory]

But I wouldn't think off rip Chloe would be the one to honor Usher. And I'm saying I was surprised. I know. I know how talented Chloe is.

[Mal]

We talking about honoring Usher.

[Rory]

I was like, all right, that's not who I would think. But she did great.

[Julian]

Okay. Mall. Who else would you have prefer to see do this thing?

[Damaris]

Cause if we're doing all women, then they pick the right. Outside of Keke. They pick the right women. If you're doing all women.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm. Listen, Teyana, like I said, Teyana. Victoria Monae, who I think is a superstar. Chloe did her thing. Coco Jones sounded great. She looked great. I get it. But I just think that overall, there is a lack of, like, Usher literally has either no successors.

[Damaris]

He does not.

[Mal]

Or no peers outside.

[Rory]

From the women's side.

[Julian]

From the women's side. It's tough, even.

[Mal]

I mean, no. Just period.

[Damaris]

Well, they had to do women because he has no male peers. And the one male peer that he does have, Chris, they don't fuck with Each other. So what do you do?

[Mal]

It's tough, man.

[Julian]

Like, having Tinashe up there makes no sense to me.

[Mal]

And Tinashe, you know, she's. She's somebody that. I think that, you know, we've given a lot of slack over the years, but Tinashe, she's talented.

[Damaris]

She's very talented.

[Rory]

She's a very talented, especially on the date side.

[Mal]

But we're talking about. We're talking about honoring Usher Raymond.

[Damaris]

So you keep saying who. It wouldn't be your first pick. We're asking you who would be your first pick.

[Rory]

I said mine. Sierra would be my first pick.

[Damaris]

So Ciara's pregnant or you just had a baby, obviously.

[Mal]

Teyana Taylor. They got that right. Victoria Monet. I think they got that right. Even though she's, quote, unquote, considered new artist, but even though Victoria's been in the industry for years, I would like to see her sing.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I would like to see her perform. If we're gonna do all female set.

[Rory]

Her doing youg Got It Bad would have been kind of hard.

[Mal]

Playing the guitar. Yeah. Yes.

[Rory]

Or Let it Burn. She would smoke. Let it burn.

[Damaris]

To be fair, her was just on his super bowl set, so her only got so much Usher in her. Who else?

[Rory]

We're doing just women, right?

[Damaris]

I mean, you can do men if you can.

[Mal]

I mean, your favorite artist, Bruno Mars, where was he at?

[Julian]

He'd be great, but he owes a lot of people a lot of money.

[Damaris]

Everybody.

[Rory]

So he needs to perform.

[Damaris]

They saying that they got Bruno, like, in handcuffs in Vegas. Like, they not letting him go.

[Julian]

He's tied to a blackjack table.

[Mal]

He can't. He'd been going. He been in Vegas going crazy.

[Damaris]

That's the room that's been the rumor for a long time.

[Mal]

But, like, somebody like Bruno Mars would have been dope.

[Rory]

I think, Neo, if we're allowed to do male singers.

[Mal]

Yeah, it would have been dope.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

I mean, we gotta.

[Rory]

It's just Omarion. If we're doing men. Oh, wait, I would have went crazy.

[Damaris]

No, I don't. No, I don't agree.

[Mal]

I don't agree with it.

[Damaris]

I do agree.

[Mal]

If Omarion would have came out there and started dancing to honor Usher, you niggas would have had that nigga in 30,000 memes in two minutes.

[Damaris]

Yes, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't.

[Rory]

Okay, that might be true. But I still think Omarion could do a great. Especially on the dancing side.

[Mal]

Omarion could dance. He could sing. Well, he's talented, but. But honoring Usher, y'all would have killed him for that.

[Damaris]

Not really, though, because Omarion was coming on. Was coming up. In the era when Usher was his strongest, like that was. They used to call Omari and Lil Usher like Omari and Chris Brown. Like, when they were coming up, obviously Chris went farther, but when they were coming up, like, they compared him to Usher, so that wouldn't have surprised me.

[Mal]

Well, any artist. Any male artist that sings and dances well, they're going to compare to somebody like Usher because Usher is arguably one of the greatest ever. Like, so it is what it is. But I just. Omarion. I get it. But I don't. I think that would have been more of a joke than anything. I don't think people would have took Omari. I don't think people would have took Omari tribute.

[Damaris]

Omari in serious.

[Mal]

I don't know, man.

[Damaris]

I think so.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

All right. What about Mario? Would he be taken serious? Yes, I think he would.

[Damaris]

Mario should have been up there.

[Julian]

Bieber should have been up there.

[Rory]

Who?

[Julian]

Bieber. That's his guy. They. Usher took Bieber in.

[Damaris]

What's the name of this award show?

[Mal]

Yeah, Bieber might have made sense.

[Julian]

What did. Gambino said him and Sam Smith had the same amount of BET Awards.

[Rory]

No, no, Sam Smith has more BET Awards.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, but Sam Smith released a black classic.

[Rory]

His first album is really, really, really, really, really, really good. There's not like. Not even a questionable skip like every single record.

[Mal]

Listen, I don't care.

[Rory]

But they were calling him the female Adele at that time. Then we realized we were calling him the female Adele when that first. That first album came out.

[Mal]

They was calling him the female.

[Rory]

Yeah, but now I don't know which.

[Damaris]

They were calling him the male Adele, baby.

[Julian]

Now he's that.

[Rory]

But because at that time. Never mind.

[Damaris]

How did we get through June? How did we get through June?

[Mal]

Listen, I don't care what color Sam Smith is. The boy can sing. Sing? Yeah, the boy is bad.

[Rory]

Well, they can sing really well.

[Mal]

What does he identify?

[Rory]

That's why I was trying.

[Damaris]

They can sing. They can say.

[Mal]

Okay, he identifies as they now.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. They were calling Sam Smith the. They Adele. But that's what I was trying to get.

[Damaris]

He wasn't out when they released that. Out when he released that album. Everybody thought. Well, nope. We thought he was gay, but he wasn't out when he released the album.

[Julian]

I thought he was. He's always gay. I just thought he wasn't this. He wasn't. They.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right, I'm. Go ahead and say it, man. It.

[Damaris]

No, don't do it. Let's just move on.

[Rory]

You know what? Yo, Craig David would have been great.

[Damaris]

Talking about the BET Award.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Damaris]

Where was John B?

[Mal]

Word, Yo. Craig David. You know, if they'd have bought Craig David out there to honor Usher, man, Come on. Like, what we doing here? What's happening?

[Damaris]

Well, I'm waiting for Yalls set list. Like, that's what I'm waiting for. Y'all set? Listen.

[Mal]

Well, we just.

[Rory]

I mean, we're leaving out somebody I wasn't mad at.

[Mal]

I was.

[Rory]

Like.

[Mal]

I said Chloe Tiana, Victoria, Coco. I wasn't mad at them.

[Damaris]

You said we're leaving somebody out. We're leaving out Trey Songz. Yes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

We're leaving out a huge person, but, yes, on purpose. Yeah.

[Mal]

Great songs if.

[Julian]

Yeah, that would have made sense.

[Rory]

There wasn't everything. Yeah, that would make total sense.

[Mal]

Trey Songz can't perform.

[Damaris]

You just said.

[Rory]

You about to make me defend him.

[Damaris]

Her can't dance either.

[Rory]

That's why I said you got it bad.

[Mal]

Or her could play seven instruments, though.

[Damaris]

Okay, but that's not the part.

[Mal]

That's a performer.

[Damaris]

Yeah, singing is part of performing. Mo.

[Julian]

We're doing it. Like, if we're doing Usher class, you want someone that can dance.

[Damaris]

That's just.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly my point. I'm just saying, like, are we keeping it. Is it keeping it real or what? Are we keeping it real here or what? What we doing? We got all this shit.

[Damaris]

Can't go to la. We can't go to Virginia. I need a new job, man.

[Mal]

Listen, man, y'all see, that's the problem, man. Don't want to just kick it real. I just. I'm just trying to kick it real. I ain't got no problem with nobody just kicking it real. That's all.

[Rory]

All right, so this is why Reddit is insane. Because I was just typing in, like, Usher, similar artists, just in case we forgot any. And this Reddit thread. What are some good R B artists with strong vocals? Just like Usher, First One Shade and Majid Jordan.

[Mal]

This is why I don't.

[Rory]

That's why you got to stay off Reddit.

[Mal]

This is why I don't go on Reddit for, like, that. Because anybody can just go in there and say whatever they want to be a joke.

[Julian]

That's hilarious.

[Mal]

But.

[Julian]

But if they're serious.

[Rory]

No, but why I don't think they're joking is. It's not like they just Put a bunch of, like, Sade.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No, but I get why someone would say that. Legendary status, but. And I love Majid, but just when you hear Usher, you hear mad.

[Julian]

Space between.

[Mal]

Oh, what about. What about. What about Tyrese? He was in the audience.

[Rory]

I was literally just about to say this next.

[Mal]

They did a My Way video together. They. They was like, you know, enemies. In the My Way video, that would have been a fun little.

[Rory]

He was in the front row singing. Yeah.

[Mal]

Like. Well, it was all women, but, like, I mean. I mean, if you're gonna have Donald Glover wear the linen and have his feet out at that point, we can get anybody to come up here and do their thing.

[Damaris]

Like, well, who knows if Tyrese can still sing? A lot of these people.

[Mal]

Who knows if Tyrese can still. You just sat here and said, if this wasn't in trouble. Trey Songz, what I'm you missing. You think that Trey Song sings better than Tyrese? I don't give a how. When is the last time you heard Tyrese sing? I don't care.

[Damaris]

Okay, okay, so let me clarify, because that. You not putting that on my jacket. Ain't no way that Trey Songz sings better than Tyrese. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, over time, some people's vocals decline and they start declining performances.

[Mal]

Tyrese vocals ain't declined.

[Damaris]

How do you. When's the last time you heard him sing? How do you know that?

[Rory]

People's on. On Good Morning America when genuine was on MDMA shrooms.

[Damaris]

That was, like, 10 years ago.

[Rory]

I was smoking it, though.

[Damaris]

It was like 10 years ago.

[Mal]

That's all right. He was up there.

[Damaris]

Why do y'all think Mariah turns down so many performances?

[Julian]

Cause she waits till Christmas because she's Santa Claus.

[Mal]

Now, Santa Claus only comes out one.

[Damaris]

Time of the year because voice is not what it used to be.

[Rory]

I will say again, if they added males, having Tyrese, Genuine, and Tank together would have been crazy for Usher.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. They don't like each other, though.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which I get. That's a. That's a weird crew.

[Mal]

Yeah, but see, all these get back together, they just watch the Will Smith performance. Everybody come together.

[Rory]

They'll realize that sometimes you have to listen, man. You have to dance in the ring.

[Mal]

The heavy cross to bear. You know what I mean? You shouldn't have been up there. High Genuine.

[Damaris]

So basically, you feel like Kiki. You feel like Kiki. Tanash and Childish shouldn't have been up there you're cool with Victoria, Khloe and Coco and Tian. And Coco and Tiana.

[Mal]

Yeah, I was cool with that. I wasn't mad at that. Tiana, obviously, she's, you know, a hell of a performer.

[Rory]

Was she dressed like Michael Jackson, if I remember?

[Damaris]

No, she was dressed like Usher.

[Julian]

That's a young Usher. Which is. Which is Michael Jackson.

[Mal]

They all dress like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she was dressed.

[Rory]

It looked more like straight Michael than.

[Damaris]

It did, but that's how Usher used to dress.

[Mal]

Actually, it was Janet that she was.

[Damaris]

Dressed like, but she was dressed like Usher.

[Mal]

No, I thought it was the Janet and I Get Lonely video.

[Damaris]

Tiana. We're talking about Tiana.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Tiana.

[Damaris]

She's dressed like Usher. She's not dressed like Janet.

[Rory]

Okay. But Usher. Usher was dressed like them. So I don't think when I see a Michael Jackson or Janet Jackson fit that it's Usher, even at the Usher performance.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Well, I just.

[Mal]

I feel like they all got it for Mike, no matter what you're saying. They all got it for Mike, of course.

[Damaris]

But I'm just saying, I'm sure when she went. She went to dress like Usher. She's dressed like Usher just like she's dressed like Beyonce in the Bad Girl. They were honoring the Bad Girl performance that they had did either at the BTS or the Grammys with Beyonce and Usher.

[Rory]

Respectfully, to both these women, I feel bad for all the teenagers going through puberty that were watching this with their parents.

[Mal]

Yo, what's up with you, crazy Chub?

[Julian]

Hey, you were bricked up watching this.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

Especially the flip. The flip clip was on a rock.

[Rory]

He got when they got into 69.

[Mal]

He got to get out the house more. If anything about this performance had you turned on. Like, you got to get what they kept. Cut.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, that's. That's the cops, cuz. Mo's crazy.

[Damaris]

Sorry.

[Mal]

That's Bang Bros calling you. Your subscription, your bill is due.

[Damaris]

I'm sorry.

[Rory]

Haven got declined.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, how you.

[Julian]

How your lap camera work on this is incredible.

[Rory]

That didn't do anything for you?

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Oh, that's a good shot.

[Mal]

Come on, perform.

[Julian]

Wait, we could run that back.

[Mal]

I'm not. You thought I was in the house, like, ooh.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, I wasn't. Definitely not.

[Rory]

You said ooh. And Child's Gambino didn't have draws on. I thought maybe this would redeem it.

[Mal]

I said boo.

[Damaris]

Boo.

[Mal]

I was booing at the tv, man. Get this off my screen, man.

[Damaris]

They look Amazing. It's the flip. Oh, get the flip. Oh, yes.

[Rory]

Camera work. Nuts.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. Whoever was the DP for this, they smoked it.

[Mal]

But, man, Victoria keep playing with Tiana like that.

[Damaris]

No, Tiana keep playing Victoria like that. Victoria is about that. About that.

[Mal]

No, she ain't.

[Damaris]

Yes, she is.

[Mal]

Tiana's married, children.

[Damaris]

So was Tiana.

[Rory]

Oh, I mean, well, she's single woman.

[Damaris]

Everybody knows. No, Victoria is like. Like a real. Like a real.

[Mal]

She's bisexual.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's rumored.

[Rory]

I mean, in her music.

[Damaris]

Well, you got the camera on me. But it's rumored that her and Kehlani used to date.

[Rory]

Oh, I never heard that. Yeah, but I mean, you can listen to her music and.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she's. Half her songs are about women.

[Mal]

Victoria and Kehlani.

[Julian]

That's a nice combo right there.

[Mal]

I might pay to see that. That.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's Pete.

[Rory]

And I'm the horny one.

[Julian]

Get the chop for that one.

[Rory]

The two of them dancing.

[Mal]

They were dancing. I'm just told they. She's my women that actually dated and slept together.

[Rory]

You know, Tiana Bell on the show.

[Mal]

Allegedly.

[Julian]

Why allegedly? That's amazing.

[Mal]

Hopefully.

[Julian]

Hopefully. Yeah. Promote that.

[Rory]

One of those rumors you wish.

[Mal]

Prayfully. Prayfully.

[Damaris]

That happened prayerfully.

[Rory]

I hope they're on good terms still.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, I hope they have each other's numbers.

[Damaris]

Well, you guys don't agree with the Usher tribute? Okay, I kind of.

[Mal]

No, hold on. But that ain't over. Then Usher get his ass up there. And we couldn't even hear what he was saying because he start talking so crazy. They blacked out his whole speech. Usher said one, and then it was like, yeah, blank. I was like, yo, I wonder him.

[Julian]

Get his off, homie forgot to unmute that.

[Mal]

But then they posted online because people was recording, obviously, in the audience. They posted what he was saying. It was. It was a good speech. It was emotional as him being a father now and him not having his father in his life growing up. So he kind of just was speaking to that about that. Not stopping him from chasing and achieving his goals and things like that. This being a year of the Fathers and that. Men need to be there for their kids. Men need to step up and, you know, lead their families and things like that. So it was a. It was a good speech. Usher gave a good speech. I just wish we would have heard it in real time. Why are we acting like we don't know that we curse? Why is BET black, like, completely just cutting audio? Because somebody is cursing because it's on tv.

[Julian]

Ad money.

[Mal]

You know what these kids are watching? The marriage.

[Damaris]

It's on T. It doesn't. They'll get fined. It's not up to them.

[Rory]

Sometimes I get confused when I'm watching cable and people curse in like, shows.

[Damaris]

Like, you can say. You can't say the other curse words, but you can say if you watch the performance, they were saying bitch.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Mal]

Yeah, but what's wrong with saying fuck?

[Damaris]

You can't say nigga. Fuck. Shit.

[Mal]

Can't say nigga.

[Rory]

In 03 on the Chappelle show, they were saying it.

[Julian]

I was gonna say, technically, you can say anything you want. The reason why they don't is because it's. It's more about the ads and dollars that come with it and making it more palatable. The. What is it? The fec.

[Rory]

I was gonna say. I think that's radio.

[Julian]

To say what? And show whatever you want.

[Mal]

I promise you, if you blur out a. It's not gonna, like, hinder my thought of going to get a Sprite or not. I promise you. You.

[Rory]

But you're not a young developing mind.

[Mal]

And that.

[Rory]

That would. That would traumatize.

[Mal]

Oh, I've heard these young developing minds and how they talk to each other.

[Rory]

Worse than how he.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. Worse than that. Whatever Usher set up there. Way worse than that. I can promise you that.

[Damaris]

Well, how do you guys feel about the winners?

[Mal]

It was four of them that we know about.

[Rory]

No, it was. They aired four.

[Julian]

Michael won album of the year.

[Mal]

Michael who? Oh, Killer Mike. Yes. Good speech, too. Great speech. He won album of the year. Shout out to Killer Mike. Sza won best female R B pop artist.

[Rory]

Makes sense.

[Mal]

Get that? Best male R B went to Usher.

[Damaris]

I hate. But no, it doesn't make sense because why did they combine R B and pop? They're two different fucking. Two completely different genres.

[Mal]

RB is a popular. R and B is popular music.

[Damaris]

But you know, that's not what they. What they mean.

[Rory]

Wait, Kanye and Ty won best group? Yeah, they were getting risky. I didn't even see that.

[Damaris]

Well, they didn't have much. Yeah.

[Julian]

That is a week. Yeah. Lineup.

[Rory]

Jesus.

[Mal]

Best collaboration went to Little Dirt All My Life. Didn't they.

[Rory]

Didn't they get it last year?

[Julian]

They're gonna win every year.

[Rory]

That song came out in, like, 2017.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's pre pandemic.

[Rory]

Why is this song still on the charts?

[Mal]

I don't know, man. Best female hip hop artist went to Nikki.

[Rory]

Makes sense.

[Mal]

Best male hip hop artist went to Relax. Best new artist, Kendrick Lamar best artist went to Tyler.

[Damaris]

Now. The Internet was in a frenzy about that. They feel like Sexy Red was robbed.

[Julian]

And they are wrong.

[Damaris]

They're wrong.

[Rory]

I just don't think people understand how big Water was to the world. I get it. With Sexy Red and the impact that she has had on the culture.

[Mal]

Sexy Red has had a crazy impact. A huge impact for sure. She's had a great year. There's no denying that.

[Rory]

But that water is like.

[Mal]

That water record was one of the biggest records in the world.

[Rory]

It's a once in a decade record.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, that record is so big, I'd never want to hear it again.

[Rory]

It. That song is so good. But they. You couldn't escape it to the point that it got annoying.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And that song itself is amazing. It's not even annoying. They just played it so much.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

What's the last time y'all felt like that about a record? It's so big that I, like, there was. It's so big, it became annoying.

[Julian]

Oh, man. Let me see.

[Damaris]

That's why.

[Rory]

That's a good question. I would just have to.

[Julian]

Oh, God. I hated Despacito. Which was it? Despacito.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. You couldn't escape that one.

[Damaris]

God's plan got annoying to me after a while.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I don't think it was as big as water, but it. It got annoying to me after a while.

[Julian]

Blinding lights never got old for me. Maybe it's because I love the Weeknd.

[Damaris]

Flashing Lights by Kanye. Yeah.

[Mal]

I still want to hear.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

No, I'm talking about when it happened. That Gotta Be with youh by Mary J. Blige.

[Mal]

But this. This is a listen. We didn't have to go through the names of songs. This is a great thing to have, though. Yeah, it's. It's great to have a song that's so big and so huge that people don't want to hear it no more. Because that means we've heard this shit so many times. We love it. We like it. Great video. You know, the challenge was crazy on social media. Everybody, we get it. I just don't care to hear. I just don't care to ever hear that record again. Unless Tyler's performing it and I'm at the show, then it's. Okay, cool.

[Damaris]

And then she performed. Did you guys like Tyler's performance?

[Mal]

Yeah, I didn't even see her performance.

[Damaris]

She performed with Skillet Bang, and I did see it.

[Mal]

Yes, yes, yes, I did see it.

[Rory]

I swear. This isn't. I don't have a thing with Bruno Mars. But Uptown Funk eventually.

[Damaris]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[Rory]

Was amazing when it came out. Solidified hit record forever, but they just played it way too much everywhere. Uptown Funk might have been the last time that I felt that Pharrell. Pharrell Happy. Yeah. When that song came out, I was obsessed with the video. Was incredible. I overplayed that myself. Gave that shit three weeks.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't.

[Rory]

I was mad unhappy.

[Mal]

I don't ever want to hear that again.

[Damaris]

They said Pharrell Happy is scaring the hoes music.

[Julian]

Peaches was one of those.

[Rory]

I never got there with Peaches. I still like Peaches.

[Julian]

God, that shit got so annoying.

[Mal]

But Peaches wasn't as big as water.

[Damaris]

It wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't that. It was big, but it wasn't that big.

[Mal]

Yeah. Not Waters.

[Julian]

They remixed it. They fucking put Daniel Caesar and Givon on the remix.

[Damaris]

I think the ability to put music on Instagram now is what's really exhaust me from songs. Because every time I open my phone, you heard water. Like, it's not just like on the radio or at the parties or in the. You couldn't even open your phone now without hearing whatever hit song is bigger. So I feel like it brings that fatigue on so much quicker.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know what's one that could have been in that category?

[Julian]

The same loop but never did.

[Rory]

Rihanna, we found Love. You could play that anywhere and I'll still love it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But that could be up there. There. I could see someone hating.

[Julian]

Oh, God, I love that song.

[Rory]

Ed Sheeran Divide started to get on my nerves a little bit. Thrift Shop. I mean, I never liked it to begin with, but Thrift Shop started to annoy, I think.

[Damaris]

I didn't.

[Mal]

What song was Thrift Shop?

[Rory]

Macklemore. Peach. Sing it.

[Damaris]

Okay. I can remember.

[Rory]

We gotta drop some cash.

[Mal]

That's not like a song you'll walk in the car and see Pete dancing to. Like, yo. Peaches dancing to Thrift Shop.

[Damaris]

Oh, and. And Gangam style.

[Rory]

I mean, I never. Yeah, I was never just like, I.

[Mal]

Don'T know where you be hanging. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Every function. No.

[Rory]

Did you guys feel that way about Blurred Lines? I never did, but I just.

[Damaris]

Blurred lines. But I can see somebody getting tired of blurred lines.

[Rory]

Like the Marvin Gaye estate.

[Damaris]

I don't even hear that now.

[Mal]

Marvin Gaye State was sick of that. Said. All right. Enough is enough.

[Damaris]

Do you guys feel like they got the. They got the winners, right?

[Mal]

Oh, for the most part, yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Most part, they got it right. I think the categories was kind of easy to figure out.

[Julian]

It looks good to me.

[Mal]

Yeah. Who the winners were?

[Damaris]

Yeah, but.

[Mal]

Yeah, Bet I don't. They got us. They got it.

[Rory]

Me and you is on the Gospel.

[Julian]

Gospel Inspirational Award.

[Damaris]

Oh, she's about Jesus. Wait, I was singing that.

[Rory]

Hold on. Me and you is about the Lord.

[Julian]

Inspirational.

[Damaris]

Only me. No, it's not.

[Mal]

I promise you it's not.

[Damaris]

Yes, it is.

[Mal]

No, it's not.

[Damaris]

All right, I'm about to read the lyrics. Hold on.

[Mal]

It's not. That record is not about the Lord. What are we talking about right now?

[Rory]

What?

[Julian]

You said me and you. The you is God.

[Mal]

No, it's not. I heard that song plenty of times.

[Damaris]

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. It is about. It's about the Lord.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's about him.

[Rory]

Yeah. It must mean I'm at the door like of heaven's gate.

[Julian]

Faith to believe you Faith to receive you Come on, what you receive?

[Damaris]

Give me one break. I need faith Faith to believe you Faith to receive you Give me something I'm lacking. I don't need nothing. You are my everything. Yeah, I mean make me your matter, make me your substance, make me your person. Yeah, every.

[Rory]

And I don't mean this in bad way, but every generic R and B song with lyrics you could interpret as your significant other. God, your friend, some chick you, the.

[Damaris]

Lady at Chick fil a.

[Rory]

Word. Give me some faith because Sunday you don't need not even open.

[Mal]

Telling the lady at Chick fil a to make me yours is crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, the special.

[Mal]

Just make me yours. All right? Like I'm here for you. Use me like what? Chick Fil A?

[Rory]

Nah, they're a very Christian based organization.

[Mal]

Listen, man, the BET Awards, I ain't gonna lie. I'm cool.

[Julian]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Damaris]

It's not the awards, though. It's the talent. There's not a lot of talent.

[Mal]

So let's just shut down the BET Awards for a few years.

[Julian]

Wait, look what won Best movie.

[Rory]

That's out.

[Mal]

Is it out?

[Julian]

It won't out.

[Rory]

Oh, I thought that was, like coming out next.

[Damaris]

Listen, man, beat the Little Mermaid. Are you that.

[Julian]

It beat American Fiction? American Fiction is one of the, like, that's top three film that came out last year. American Fiction was like all over the.

[Damaris]

It beat Spider man across the spider verse. All right.

[Julian]

I mean, American Fiction, I gotta see one love tonight.

[Damaris]

American Fiction is good.

[Rory]

Julian.

[Damaris]

Yes. It's your personality in a movie. It's not that great. It's amazing.

[Mal]

The movie of the year, the one.

[Julian]

Better than any one of these.

[Rory]

Who won Best act It's not better than L. Oh, Denzel. I mean, damn.

[Julian]

They really took a risk on that one. Did he even act?

[Rory]

What movie came out?

[Mal]

Equalizer 3.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. I guess that makes that.

[Damaris]

Coleman Domingo should have won personally.

[Julian]

Actress Regina King.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Coleman Domingo should have won an actress. Whatever. Angela Basset's in. She's the best best actress, so she should have won that too.

[Julian]

The young star. The nepotism award.

[Damaris]

Watch your mouth.

[Julian]

Yo, look who won.

[Damaris]

Watch your mouth.

[Rory]

But are the rest of these. Aren't children stars? Like stars of children? I mean.

[Damaris]

Oh, no.

[Julian]

I mean, that's why, you know, Northwest will get an extra at a close one versus whoever. Kids.

[Mal]

All right?

[Rory]

So that's why. That's not fair. And I'm not being a whole avenger. Blue Ivy Carter was dancing every single night on a world tour with Beyonce. So, yes, nepotism. But it's not like she was just in the. The booth waving to the paparazzi's. Yeah, she was dancing with some of the biggest dancers in the world.

[Julian]

No, she. Yeah, it's a great opportunity.

[Rory]

I can't speak to the rest of.

[Damaris]

The list of what they do. There's people who have famous parents who don't dance like Blue Ivy and wouldn't be able to get on stage in front of fucking hundreds of thousands of people and go off and dance next to amazing dancers and do full out choreography.

[Mal]

Very true.

[Damaris]

It's the same thing when people say Kim's only famous because of her sex tape. And it's like it's mad bitches with sex tapes and they ain't Kim. So I just don't.

[Rory]

It's a crazy comparison right now. I totally see what you're saying, but.

[Damaris]

Like, it is a crazy. But it's just like, yes, people do get opportunities, but people get opportunities every day and fumble them. Mad people get opportunities and fumble them. Just cause you're given an opportunity doesn't mean that you're gonna be a star. So let's give people the credit that's due to them.

[Rory]

And I'm not familiar with the rest of that list. So.

[Damaris]

Listen, I love Van. Van.

[Mal]

Van.

[Damaris]

Van was the cutest. She's a very cute little girl.

[Mal]

Bet we love y'all, but we could. We could do without the BET Awards for a few years.

[Rory]

All right, see, that's hate.

[Mal]

That's hate. Yeah, I hate the show.

[Julian]

All right, well.

[Damaris]

But that's not. That's not the BET Awards fault. And I like the fact.

[Mal]

I'm not saying it's their Fault. But it's like, all right, let the talent pool kind of like catch up a little bit and, and let these artists develop and then we can come back in maybe three years and see what we got. Like, but this shit to do this every year and we. This is the shit we putting forth. Like Glorill and all them. We love them, we love Sexyy Red, but we don't need to see them performing.

[Damaris]

That's not fair.

[Mal]

It's not fair.

[Rory]

People wanna see Sexy Red perform. If I'm put, not me. But I don't dictate the entire demographic of her.

[Mal]

She wanted to see it.

[Damaris]

We're plenty of people wanted to see sexy radio.

[Rory]

If you're putting together a lineup you wanna hit, I'm acting like every mics in these cameras are bit of Asian demographics. There is a huge demographic that wants to see Sexy Red perform.

[Damaris]

At the BET Awards they said Sexyy Red got the loudest like applause. Then she had bigger applause than any other performer in the crowd of her peers. So yes, people want to see Sexyy Red. Listen, I agree we've already had the plant conversation and CIA and all.

[Rory]

We. Yeah, you know where I stand. But I'm saying I understand her being on the.

[Mal]

Listen, it's okay to just be honest. That's not. That's not. Not BET award level talent. It's not. It's just not. The performance is not like you could put all the production on stage and have. It's just not. We're sitting there looking at it like, okay, I'm happy for Sexyy Red. I'm glad that she has a career and she's able to, you know, make money and take care of a family and live a life that she wants to live. I'm not mad at that. But when we talk about putting this type of talent on a stage like the BET Awards, I'm just thinking that there's a certain level of. Of talent that we're reserving for that. There's other award shows. The Soul Train Awards.

[Damaris]

Why would she be on the Soul Train Awards mall?

[Mal]

Why would she be on the BET Awards?

[Damaris]

Because she's the most popular female.

[Rory]

I wasn't the one to say it.

[Mal]

Just because you're popular doesn't mean you need to be on the stage performing. And that's the. And that's. That's the problem.

[Rory]

But we just said during the new artist award, Tyler deserved it. But we understood the cultural impact that Sexyy Red has had. So I see why people were upset set that she didn't get the award over Tyler. So I think that means she should be performing, though.

[Mal]

No, that doesn't.

[Rory]

The cultural impact Sexy Red has had. You can't see why she's performing at the BET Awards.

[Mal]

I can't.

[Rory]

I could see why she numbers impact image.

[Mal]

You have. You haven't said anything about talent level yet.

[Rory]

Oh, you're in the wrong business now.

[Damaris]

So you think sexy, untalented person to perform at the BET Award?

[Mal]

No, she's not. Not. I'm not saying she is. I'm just saying now it's at a point where it may be more clear than ever that the talent pool. Now we're looking at impressions online and following. Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, I'm not arguing. All right.

[Mal]

We're getting away from the talent. We're too far away from the talent level.

[Damaris]

No, it's about the influence and the impact. But that's what's bringing money. That's what's bringing money. You gotta get a certain amount of views, a certain amount of clicks. You gotta do what?

[Mal]

I'm willing to bet that the views on this BET award show might have been some of the lowest views I.

[Rory]

That's every award show, period.

[Damaris]

They go down every day.

[Mal]

So it speaks to the level of talent that you're trying to put on tv, and people are not being fooled by it. It's like, oh, this is the Sexy Red. Like, say somebody never seen Sexyy Red perform. They've seen her on social media. They've seen her on YouTube. They've seen videos, whatever. They're like, but now when you put her to perform and I'm sitting in my living room and I see it, I'm just like, I'm not impressed by that.

[Damaris]

What do you guys think about Ice Spice's performance?

[Mal]

Lackluster.

[Damaris]

What do you guys think about Meg's performance?

[Mal]

I think she did great, but it's a difference. It's a reason why Meg is doing arenas and shit like that and selling that shit out. She's an actual performer. She can actually perform. She has a certain level of talent.

[Rory]

We don't disagree that there is a lack of talent with performances. With this current. Current pool that's here. We're just saying that's not what they're looking at for anymore.

[Mal]

And I'm saying we need to start looking for that a little bit more. I'm not.

[Rory]

I couldn't agree with you more.

[Mal]

You know, giving people opportunity to touch the state. It's okay to be like, yo, listen, you're not there yet, but let's not.

[Rory]

Act like at award shows. This is the first time that a quote unquote lack of talent has been performed. That just has a lot of.

[Mal]

I never said it's the first time. I'm just saying now it's, it's. To me, it's more evident than it's ever been that we don't have a very large pool of talent right now.

[Rory]

Glo Rilla performs. She's talented, I think, I think it was a good mixed bag.

[Damaris]

But I think Glo did a good job on her performance. You don't think so?

[Mal]

I think we could save. I think we could save a lot of this for the BT Hip Hop Awards is what I'm saying.

[Damaris]

Okay, that I would understand, but that means that they would have.

[Mal]

So.

[Damaris]

Yes, so that was one complaint that I did see and I really do heavily agree with. This should have been for the BET Hip Hop Awards. And also there was not enough R and B present.

[Rory]

I'm with that for sure.

[Mal]

There should have been present.

[Damaris]

There should have been more R B. If there was more R and B present, there would have been more talent present.

[Mal]

There's some trash ass R and B shit out here too. There is a lot of these niggas can't sing. You get these niggas out the studio without all the bells and whistles and these niggas sound crazy. That happens. We know that. Yes, we know that. So I'm just saying, like, it's just we have to start. And again, I'm happy for the sexy reds and the glorillas and the ice spices, Bronx legend. I'm happy for them. Like, I want them to have this opportunity to perform in front of the world and all. But my thing is you also have to be at a certain level to be on certain stages. Is all I'm saying. Your talent level has to be at a certain level. That's all. I'm not mad at them. I'm not hating on none of these women. I think it's dope. Get your bag, stream your fucking songs, sell your merch, sell your products, whatever. But let's make sure the talent level is at a certain. It just has to be at a certain level at all times, that's all.

[Rory]

Did Ross make it to the BET Awards?

[Mal]

No, actually he was busy.

[Rory]

He was preoccupied.

[Mal]

He was booked. He was booked.

[Rory]

And they booked him.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, he was. He was booked and busy. Rick Ross, obviously the. The video broke of Rick Ross in Vancouver at a. At a show. And after his show, once he walked off stage Rick Ross and his crew got into an altercation with some other festival goers, I guess.

[Rory]

Well, reportedly he walked out playing Not Like Not Like Us from his side.

[Mal]

Yes, that's what he popped this whole shit off. And then a bunch of set walking up the stage, his DJ went into Not Like Us, which is an intentional thing, you know, you.

[Rory]

I don't think Ross had enough hits maybe that like the DJ ran out of stuff.

[Mal]

Yeah. So they figured Go with you gonna.

[Julian]

Win the crowd back.

[Mal]

Yeah, go with the song that everybody seems to be liking right now.

[Rory]

Not knowing half the Hell's Angels were in the front row. I just think it's funny that.

[Mal]

Not when you're in Canada. Like.

[Rory]

Well, that too. But like the biker gang was at whatever this festival was, was like, who else are they? Were they Ross fans, maybe?

[Mal]

I could see Ross having some biker fans. Absolutely. But the story is Ross got off stage, the record played, and some gentlemen approached him and you know, expressed their not liking the. Not liking.

[Rory]

Not liking them.

[Mal]

Yeah, we don't like that. And they said that Ross responded in a way that was, you know, deemed to be disrespectful. And, and you know, you can imagine that Ross is a shit talker. He's a slick talker. If somebody came up to Ross and asked him about a song he's playing on the set, I could see Ross responding in a very slick way.

[Rory]

How do you think security allowed people to get to Ross that easily? Yeah, why was, why was Ross that accessible?

[Julian]

Yeah, he looks like he's in the crowd.

[Mal]

I don't know. That was the question I asked when I saw the video. I didn't, I didn't see enough security. Maybe Ross figured this is a festival, you know, probably. Obviously they'll have security at the event. It seems like Ross has one of his personal bodyguards there. But he probably figured, you know, it's a festival. It's not going to be we in and out real quick. I don't need a huge security detail like that. And it just so happened that this altercation happened. But what does this mean though? Because you've seen a lot of people react to it. They're talking about, oh, Ross think he got pressed in Canada. Did Drake send the goons and all of this? I don't think Drake sent anybody. Number one.

[Rory]

Yeah, I understand that it was in Canada, but it was in Vancouver, like.

[Mal]

It was in Vancouver.

[Rory]

Not saying that's like Maine.

[Mal]

Not saying that.

[Rory]

Main to Washington. Yeah.

[Mal]

But not saying that Drake can't.

[Rory]

No, no, no. That's my point is Drake could reach anywhere on earth, right? So just because it was in Canada, I don't think that automatically means that Drake sent someone to Vancouver because Ross. Where was Ross yesterday?

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

Like, it didn't have to be. If he was in Toronto, then I'd be like, all right, that kind of checks out.

[Mal]

Yeah. Kind of feels like that might have been something in more direct correlation.

[Rory]

Vancouver is just another city on the complete opposite side of Canada. So I don't put the same connection that people do.

[Mal]

No, I think that this was just somebody that felt the way about something that Ross did at his set. Somebody that obviously had backstage access, because I think the other one of the gentlemen is an artist himself, so they obviously had backstage access. And I think that this is just a case of them having words and words turn into physicality. Like, I don't think that this has anything to do with Drake. I get why people are trying to. To paint it that way. And then when the post went up, Drake liked the post, which I to.

[Rory]

Me was a little too petty. Like, don't tie. Don't tie yourself.

[Mal]

Nah, nah, nah, we can't do that.

[Rory]

Why can't we do that?

[Mal]

Because when niggas is parading and crip walking to them a legend. I'm a pedophile. I could sit at home and like a post. I could sit at home and like a post. All I did was like a post. So you can't, you can't do that. You can't say, oh, that's petty. That's. No, no, no, no, no. See, this is what. No, no, Mal.

[Rory]

All right, but Drake, Drake knows his power and his reach and what it means for Drake to like a post of Ross being beat up in Canada.

[Mal]

Same way. That was intentional.

[Rory]

I don't think it has anything to do with each other, but I know how the world.

[Mal]

Same way. The same way. Drake liking that post was intentional because he knew what people would say and how people would react to him liking it is the same way Ross played that record and walked off stage. Why? That was intentional. It's the same.

[Rory]

Okay, you are. You are right in that you can't.

[Mal]

Be mad at how I react to your intentions. You can't be mad at the way Drake reacts to the intentions of somebody doing something or in his direction. You can't. You can't. We can't do that.

[Julian]

The thing with Drake, though, to kind of Rory's point is it's now, now that Drake by liking a pose, it means he's Acknowledging it and agrees with that behavior. Whatever. So in turn, it's pretty much retroactively a dog whistle for him to let people like, hey, if other people come here and do this, you have my permission to go out and attack. I'm not saying he's directly saying that by any means. Well, 45, sure, yeah. I mean, like, other people that are very close to him have said this, but it's. It's evident that while. While liking this, even though he probably will never speak on this publicly or make any other reference to this incident, that alone makes other people like the gentleman that had the ponytail that threw the first punch and others from Canada to be like, oh, Drake's still on our side. Let's. We got the green light on everybody that plays that record in our city.

[Mal]

Same way they stormed the Capitol because traffic. Trump.

[Julian]

Yes. It's a. Yeah, Dog whistling is a very effective.

[Rory]

I don't think liking a post in Trump's actual speech saying, never surrender.

[Julian]

Same tactic.

[Mal]

Yeah, effectively it's the same tactic. Whatever.

[Julian]

So.

[Rory]

But I just feel like the President, United States just saying, never surrender. Let's. Let's go over there is a little more drastic.

[Mal]

What else did he say?

[Rory]

I don't. I'm not doing this.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, See, I said standby, right?

[Mal]

No, that's not what he said.

[Rory]

He said that about the Proud Boys.

[Mal]

And that's not what.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

But anyway. But their time's coming, so, yes, I do get how that looks if Drake likes the post. But again, you can't be mad at somebody for liking the post of somebody getting hands put on them or getting into an altercation based off the fact that, okay, they're probably upset that you're playing this song. They asked you why are you playing that? And then you responded in the way that you wanted to respond. At that point, it's just two. It's grown men having an altercation about something and disrespect is presented. And this is how men respond to disrespect. Sometimes. Yeah, listen, it happens.

[Rory]

I. I think it above all think it was corning for Ross to end his set. Would not like us above. Above everything.

[Mal]

And that's the bottom that we're talking about. Y'all know how I feel about Ross, one of my favorite rappers.

[Rory]

What? Do you have an alibi?

[Mal]

You have an alibi? Yeah.

[Rory]

You were. You were kind of vague with what you were doing the last few days. Where was you at?

[Julian]

You got your hair done in Vancouver.

[Rory]

You love Canada.

[Mal]

I knew that was your Fault Vancouver.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I've maybe been to Vancouver once in my entire life.

[Rory]

I've never been. I really this week?

[Mal]

No, definitely not this week. I can promise you I was nowhere.

[Rory]

Near you went for the first time this week.

[Mal]

Not at all. Was nowhere near it.

[Rory]

But they put maul in a biker vest to throw us off.

[Mal]

Ross got a. He got a weirdest L. This was an L for Ross.

[Rory]

I've noticed he's been quieter than he usually is.

[Mal]

No, he ain't quiet. He's laughing.

[Julian]

He responded.

[Rory]

No, I saw the laugh.

[Mal]

He responded.

[Rory]

It's way more vocal than a laugh.

[Mal]

Yeah, but this is a loss on. I never thought I would have seen somebody try to pop on Rick Ross like that. Never.

[Rory]

Yeah, that is kind of wild.

[Mal]

Like seeing somebody take a swing at Rick Ross is something I thought I would never.

[Rory]

What was that hip I was dead Ross meme? Just that. Oh, I thought that would have been funnier. Nevermind.

[Mal]

Like. So he got away. This L. We can. You can laugh about it. You know, it was just a little fisticuffs, bottles being thrown, that type of shit. But. But to the bigger conversation of what does this mean moving forward? You know, artists going into Canada that seem to support that record. What happens from there, I don't know. Again, I don't think Drake had anything to do with this, but this was his response.

[Rory]

Yeah, Vancouver was fun.

[Julian]

You know what's funny? Drake is such a conniving. I can't look at Rick Ross's jet without thinking of the line when Drake said you have. You wrap your jet every time because you share it with so many people. It's such a.

[Rory]

And didn't it just get shot down? So that's. That's a new one that he wrapped in Vancouver.

[Julian]

It's such a good shot. Now one of them had like. Yeah. Issues.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean thank God no one got hurt, but they had like an emergency landing.

[Mal]

Shot down or shut down? Down.

[Rory]

Shot down.

[Damaris]

It didn't get shot down.

[Rory]

Didn't even Drake say that in one of his bars that he shot the plane down.

[Mal]

Anyway.

[Julian]

A landing gear got stuck.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Not.

[Rory]

Don't with the boy.

[Damaris]

Shut the up.

[Rory]

You don't know who Drake has in tsa.

[Mal]

That's a loss for Ross though. That's a loss on his jacket. He took out.

[Rory]

It was weird.

[Mal]

And then they laid your man out.

[Julian]

When the security guy gets laid out, that's a tough look.

[Mal]

They laid your man. No, I don't think that guy that got knocked out was security.

[Julian]

That was his dj?

[Rory]

No, his DJ got his chain took.

[Julian]

Security got up too, though.

[Rory]

But also, if you're gonna ask my DJ to play a record that could get us into some heat, you got to protect me. If I'm your DJ and I'm just a dj, and then you're like, yo, you gotta play a record that could get you in some trouble.

[Mal]

Ross ain't get it.

[Rory]

Ross has to protect his dj.

[Mal]

He ain't get as active as he was supposed to. No, Ross ain't throw no punches. He ain't. He was supposed to get more active than that.

[Damaris]

It is possible that the DJ made that executive decision on his own.

[Mal]

No, he did. Didn't. No, he didn't.

[Rory]

I can't see.

[Mal]

Let me tell you. Let me promise you this. Damaris Ross knows every song that will be played on that stage.

[Rory]

I can't see his DJ just doing that.

[Mal]

No, without.

[Rory]

Without Ross being comfortable with it. I can't see it.

[Mal]

That's not a DJ makes.

[Rory]

Maybe his DJ would play the dis. Ross has to Drake, but no one would say anything.

[Mal]

Yeah, and then you. And then you playing this record, it's like, you're not.

[Rory]

Ross isn't on this record.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, what is you like again? That was intentional. So it's like. Okay. When you start. When you start doing things like that, you gotta be willing and prepared for everything that comes behind that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, when you played it, you should have, like, squared up.

[Mal]

And I believe it. And I believe. And I believe the dudes that approached him, they probably opposed him. Like, yo, that's not cool, bro. Like, playing that record here, like, we not doing that. And then I believe Ross because he's a slick talker. He's a talker. He probably was like, who gonna stop me? Who gonna do something about it?

[Damaris]

And damn ears on the floor.

[Rory]

And then someone did something, and then.

[Mal]

Now you talking to somebody that. Now you talking to somebody that they get active. Okay, we ready to shake in here. I just feel like Ross didn't activate the way he was supposed to.

[Julian]

Is that the DJ who got slept right here?

[Mal]

Ross was supposed to lose his chain. His. Lose all that shit. Fuck all of that. Start thumping with all them niggas, but you can't get escorted out the back. And your man is laid out like a mermaid. They carry. Look, they carried him out like. Like his legs was tied together.

[Rory]

Look, they took his chain and his serato.

[Mal]

That's like the. The fins that the mermaid have.

[Julian]

And they tried to grab him back to beat him up again. Like, the dude was clearly knocked out.

[Mal]

He tried to take his sneakers off. Like, at this point, we brawling, man.

[Rory]

Which by the way, though, we joking. But I feel bad for that DJ because I do fully believe Ross asked his DJ to play that at the end of the set.

[Mal]

Of course he did.

[Rory]

So I play that. That doing my job. And now I'm getting.

[Julian]

Now I'm unconscious.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, what the. I didn't sign up for this.

[Damaris]

Oh, I wouldn't have did it. I wouldn't have did it.

[Mal]

No, you would have played that record.

[Damaris]

No, I wouldn't have.

[Mal]

If you Ross's dj.

[Rory]

If I was.

[Mal]

And he said, yo, when I leave, when I walk off, play that record. You playing that now, you might say, yo, big homie. You think that's a good idea? Yeah. Cause I would have been like, yeah. I'm like, big homie. Big homie. Hold on, let's talk about this for a second. We in Canada. Granted, we not in Toronto, but we in Canada. We know what that. We know what that's intentional. What are we doing, bro? Cause we on this side of the border now.

[Rory]

I would say anywhere but la. I'd be like, you sure?

[Mal]

Yeah, like this.

[Rory]

You want to do that?

[Mal]

And it's just not necessary.

[Rory]

This wasn't just a Ross show. Right.

[Mal]

It looked like a festival, so I'm.

[Rory]

Sure not like us played a million times. I don't know if they needed it on the Ross set.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't know. Does anyone find it weird that we haven't heard anything else about the shooting in front of Drake's house?

[Damaris]

No, no, I don't find that weird at all. It makes sense that we haven't heard anything about it.

[Rory]

Great pr, of course, but no one finds that insane that a security guard in the midst of everything that was happening was shot outside of one of the biggest artists on Earth house in a residential neighborhood of a bunch of other millionaires and billionaires and we only heard about it that day?

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

Well, to be fair, we're American media. We are. I'm sure that's world.

[Rory]

That's not just. That's not local.

[Mal]

I think.

[Rory]

I think North York, Toronto News.

[Mal]

I think we'll hear about it, though. I think we'll hear about it once an arrest is made. Yeah, but I think until then, I don't think we're not going to hear that. Yo. Still no suspects found in the Drake. I don't think we're hear about that.

[Julian]

Well, we do know the biggest just.

[Rory]

Beef, but like, no conspiracy. Like The Internet breaks everything. No, no, no, no.

[Mal]

What's the conspiracy?

[Rory]

I'm not saying conspiracy in the way my tinfoil hat conspiracies, but I'm saying the way people on the Internet just break every last thing down and find the suspect before the cops do. That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I haven't seen even any of that type.

[Julian]

Well, we discussed. We said, even during, amidst this whole beef, that the real issue here was with the weekend injury. So we're talking Canada within Canada. So I think that's the. That's the show I'd keep an eye out on, is when the Weeknd starts doing activations and he's seen outside in Canada what that's going to look like now. It's a real issue.

[Rory]

I understand the PR between Drake and also everyone that lives in that neighborhood. They don't want that to be a topic ever.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Someone I know, everyone in the neighborhood that Tory Lanez shot Meg the Stallion in is pissed how long that narrative's been going in their neighborhood. So I get it. But nobody. Like, we've been talking about this beef for months and we just always ignore that that incident happened.

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't know. I think again, once a suspect or somebody is arrested and things, I think that's when we'll hear about that shit again.

[Rory]

But how is there not a suspect? How is there not a photo the moment that shit happened? With the amount of cameras in that neighborhood. Sorry if I'm sounding like Vlad right now. It's just weird to me that we haven't heard about it. Yeah, I thought there'd be a photo within an hour. This is the license plate. If anyone knows this license plate, please contact Toronto authorities.

[Mal]

No, I feel you. It's definitely. It definitely disappeared quickly, and we didn't really get any other news about it, so. I understand what you're saying, but I really wasn't concerned about that, honestly. I mean, it's crazy that that happened, but.

[Rory]

And prayers to the security guard that was shot.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's just crazy that that incident happened and no one said shit, just moved on.

[Damaris]

Were you concerned about your Lakers?

[Mal]

Was I concerned? No, I'm not concerned because, I mean, the Lakers, they're not gonna win a championship.

[Julian]

We're not winning shit for the foreseeable.

[Mal]

Future anyway, no matter who they drafted.

[Rory]

But what was worse for the Staples Center? Ronnie being drafted or Childish Gambino not wearing draws?

[Mal]

Childish?

[Rory]

You're crazy.

[Mal]

This is the second shot. Put your feet away. When you perform it for us. Come on. So Bronnie James got drafted to the Lakers over the. Over the week since we've been going for a few days. So Bronnie James got drafted. First of all, congratulations to the James family. This is something that I don't think we've obviously never seen before in basketball and I don't think we'll ever see again. So shout out to them and salute to them for that. Cause that speaks to just a certain level of hard work, consistency, focus, things like that. Like, it's not what. This is, what we're witnessing with this. This is not something that's. This is like a movie that we all would have seen this happen in the movie and be like, that would never happen. That's corny.

[Rory]

I mean, they already have the most combined points of any father son combo in NBA history already the day he was drafted.

[Mal]

Yeah. Which is a crazy insane stat to.

[Rory]

Have no points already. Number one. When I was going through the list, that kind of blew my mind to think that LeBron has that many points in the NBA. Before that, it was Kobe and Joe Bryant with 38, 000 points. Bron is already past that at 40,000.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, I mean, Bronnie could just average the same he did at usc.

[Mal]

And they'll be fine.

[Rory]

They'll still be the greatest record is still fine.

[Mal]

Let me say this. I support black and Hispanic nepotism. I support that same. Because we don't get an opportunity to ever experience nepotism. We get left with debt. We get left with motherfucking old Buicks. So for your dad, for. Your dad said negativism. Yeah, that's negativism. Not nepotism. That's negativism. So for your dad to be the player that he is, arguably one of the greatest ever, and still be playing at a level that he's playing at long enough for you to have been, you know, a college athlete and then enter the NBA draft. I mean, we're never gonna. I don't think we'll ever see this again. I don't think we'll ever see a player play as long and as great as LeBron has played to where their child is now eligible for the NBA draft and they will actually be on the NBA floor together. I don't think we'll ever see it again.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm here for the jokes on it, but I mean, like I said last episode, I. I think this is cool. Nepotism.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's the same way nepotism works. You're doing it at the expense of an organization. Yeah, but they may not be fit for this role. But it happens every day.

[Mal]

I mean, Jeannie Bush.

[Rory]

Yeah, Succession.

[Mal]

Father owned the Lakers. Like that's nepotism for sure. You know what I mean? Like, it happens on every level. We're just seeing it now on this level. I mean, Giannis has obviously his brothers on the roster. The Nas's probably wouldn't be on the NBA roster, but that's still his brother. That's like his peer. You understand what I'm saying? Like that's. It's a difference when you talking about this is my child.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like y'all have video and footage of me and him when he was one years old like at All Star Weekend, and now he's on my team.

[Damaris]

Fire crazy.

[Mal]

We're never gonna see this again. We're never gonna see it now. From just a basketball standpoint.

[Julian]

Waste of a pick, but I love it.

[Rory]

I don't think I'm still on the side of it.

[Mal]

Listen, the greatest 55th pick ever in the NBA draft is probably Patty Mills, right? Okay, yeah, solid play. Solid professional, solid player. Won championships with San Antonio spurs legend right there. Solid player, right.

[Rory]

What are you averaging college?

[Mal]

I have no idea. Couldn't tell you. But at least for that pick to be considered valid years from now, Bronny just has to be half of what Patty Mills was. Just half. And it's like, okay, not a bad pick. Cause that's the other thing about this that people are not speaking to. What if.

[Rory]

What if he develops?

[Mal]

What if he develops, okay, and turns out to be a very serviceable player?

[Rory]

As much as you guys think I'm a hater, I'm going to be rooting for them. And I've never been like, LeBron's never been my guy. I appreciate greatness, yeah. But yeah, I'm going to root for them. That's. This is cool, bro.

[Mal]

With the 50.

[Rory]

I don't want to see this fail with the.

[Mal]

Now, if they would have passed up.

[Rory]

On still fuck the Lakers, but if.

[Mal]

They would have passed up on Steph Curry, the Knicks or fucking Carmelo Anthony and drafted Bronny, I would be like, all right, listen, I get it, I understand. But God damn, bro. Like, we could. We couldn't wait till the second round. He would have still been there. He would have still been on the board. So that's why I'm not too mad, because it's the 55th pick.

[Rory]

Did the Lakers have any third round picks?

[Mal]

I'm not sure.

[Julian]

Well, there were a lot of the conversations they were saying, like.

[Rory]

Cause he still would have been there.

[Julian]

Because Bronnie, the best player on usc, got drafted relatively early in the first round. And what. You know, there's all the. He shouldn't be drafted. And I put all that shit aside. There was another kid on his team that was like a very good. Like another star, perennial star of that team that didn't get drafted.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rory]

So people are drafted 16 points, I think.

[Julian]

But here's double digit scorer.

[Mal]

And this is. And I've had this conversation for days already, but this is my response to that. All of these players, all of these kids, they worked out for NBA teams. Like, they actually worked. So if that kid that was on Bronnie's team who averaged. I think he averaged like 16 or 17 on the season. Yeah. If he didn't get drafted before Bronnie, guess what that means. The team didn't think that kid was that good.

[Rory]

Well, he worked out. That's what everyone's kind of speaking to though, that no one's saying that that other gentleman should have been drafted. They were just suggesting he averaged way more than Bronco and still did not deserve to be drafted. That's what people are getting at.

[Mal]

But now. Cool. We know that the nep.

[Rory]

There's potential and not potential.

[Mal]

Listen, we know the nepotism play is. We don't even have to talk about it.

[Rory]

I like that they didn't even try to hide it.

[Mal]

We know what happened. All I'm saying is let's give Bronny a chance because all he's been granted with this is an opportunity to prove if either it was worth it or if it was.

[Rory]

I mean, I.

[Mal]

It's just an opportunity to prove us right or prove us wrong again.

[Rory]

Back to them throwing the nepotism in our face. My prediction was he would. He would have went undrafted. He would have had this stellar workout with the Lakers and been a walk on. That was what I thought they were going to do.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I love that they said, Nah. Second round, $8 million contract.

[Mal]

Well, when, when, when I seen.

[Rory]

There you go.

[Mal]

When Rich Paul, I forgot which show he was sitting on, but he said when he spoke to Bronze and Bronny told him, like, all I want to do is hear my name called. That's all I want. I just want to hear my name called.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's the moment every kid wants.

[Mal]

So when Rich said that gotta get him drafted, I said, oh, they gonna draft him? They're gonna draft him.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because again, shoot a video of him.

[Mal]

Looking Surprised I was on the side of you saying, you know, let him go undrafted, go to Vegas summer league, go to training camp with some team, work his way on. But the thing is, LeBron didn't want to because LeBron said it years ago. He's playing. He wants to play with Bronny. So we were talking about it all last year. Well, shit, where's Bron gonna go? Like, who's gonna draft Bronny? Because you draft Ronnie, you basically get LeBron, too. I think they made a decision, like, yo, Braun is not leaving the Lakers, so let's draft him here. The Lakers granted LeBron and clutch sports that. They said, okay, we'll draft him him, guaranteed contract. He'll come in, he'll work out. But in talking to players that I know that are in the NBA past and present, they feel like Bronny right now is better than some players that are in the NBA right now. They're like, yo, bro, listen, we get it. But he's definitely better than some guys that are in the league right now. Some people are like, okay, cool. Now, this is coming from people that actually played the game, not just watch. Watch and analyze and have these platforms. This is coming from guys that have played at that level that are saying, Bronnie is definitely better than some pros right now.

[Damaris]

Name a pro.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who? They said.

[Julian]

I mean, we probably.

[Mal]

I mean, I ain't gonna say no names, but for them to say that.

[Julian]

We wouldn't know because they don't touch the floor.

[Mal]

So now, my point is. My point is, look, every team has.

[Julian]

Players that don't touch the floor.

[Mal]

Yeah. Now, listen, listen. Bronny is not going in here and getting the starting point guard position. He's not going to be starting. He's not going to get a bunch of minutes. The Lakers are blowing somebody out, you know, for marketing and all that. They'll let Bronnie check in with LeBron, let LeBron set the screen for him. He come off and shoot, you know, give us that whole.

[Rory]

The moment.

[Mal]

Give us the moment. Give us. Give us the moment. I'm not mad at them being able to give us this moment, but does.

[Rory]

The allure leave when that happens? A few times and it doesn't go well, and they can't justify.

[Mal]

Of course it does.

[Rory]

Keeping that moment.

[Mal]

Of course it does.

[Rory]

All right, this is not working. He got to go on the be. If this was any other player, but I think he'd be gone.

[Julian]

I think with this move, though, the Lakers agreed. They assumed the role of. We're not a championship team. But I know that our singular focus this year in this draft was this particular moment which on the back end is going to yield a lot of his jersey is already the highest selling jersey they're going to and they'll sell. If LeBron puts James Senior on his jersey, guess how many more jerseys they're.

[Rory]

Going to sell that one if they don't do that.

[Julian]

So we're going to get potentially a new LeBron jersey. We already have have Bronnie's jersey and if Bronnie puts a James Jr. They're, they're bundle them sell them as a combo. It's a Travis Scott album rollout. Like they. They're going to make so much money in product off the back end that I think for a franchise that's been this winning for this long, how they justified it. Yeah, like everyone KN really realistically mall they're going to pinch what, two years out of this.

[Mal]

Probably more. I think gonna be there when Bryce goes.

[Julian]

I don't that.

[Damaris]

That'd be crazy.

[Mal]

That'll be.

[Rory]

How does Bryce now 17, three years away from that.

[Mal]

He just signed a two year extension.

[Julian]

Bryce is the best.

[Mal]

So we know LeBron is going to be there for at least two more years, guaranteed. Yeah, we three years away from Bron and Bryce being eligible for the draft.

[Julian]

That'd be crazy.

[Rory]

That could happen. But Bryce is really nice. I hope they allow him to develop somewhat in college. Just doing a quick freshman year thing and throwing Bryce in the league.

[Julian]

That's my problem.

[Rory]

Just to make another moment. It's kind of like that's my problem. All right, man. Like what are we doing?

[Mal]

The only, the only thing. The only thing that is the. To me again, I support black and Hispanic nepotism. The only thing to me that I feel like is bad about this situation is the amount of pressure that is on Bronny. Now listen, As a dad, LeBron did what most dads dream about doing. So salute to LeBron for that. But I don't think that they have factored in the amount of pressure that Bronny is gonna be under. I think Bronny, you know, for a kid to have a heart attack a year ago and be able to have the focus and the drive to work himself back into condition and have the fucking confidence to fucking be active and play sports at a high level, it speaks to the drive and the focus that Bronny has. Whether he was LeBron's son or not. Just him as an individual and as a human being. Having that drive and that focus after the heart attack to still chase your dream, bro, I know a lot of people that would never run full speed again after they have a heart attack. They would never want to get their heart rate going on the fucking court.

[Rory]

Having a heart attack.

[Mal]

So you talk about having that ability to focus. I'm rooting for a kid that has that drive. I'm rooting for him now. It's a lot of pressure when your dad is who LeBron is. That's a lot of pressure. But now that your dad ushered you into the league, got you this spot, that's a lot of fucking pressure on Bronny. And he's already showed us that he has the drive and the determination to chase his dreams. So I'm not doubting him. I'm just paying attention to that pressure. Being in Los Angeles, wearing the Lakers jersey, your dad being who he is, people thinking you're not good enough to be there. You're only there because your dad got you drafted. You know, players are gonna set hard screens on him, try to send a message. Like, it's a lot of shit that Bronny is gonna have to deal with. I think he's up for it. Growing up in the household with somebody like LeBron, being your dad, you've obviously been around NBA coaches, the NBA games, you know, so you. You know what to expect from that side of it, from the physicality and just being conditioned and. And you know what to expect as far as playing. But all of the other shit off of the court, I don't think that they factored in. And it's gonna be a. It's gonna be tough for Bronny. They gonna give him hell so much. So much shit. They gonna give him so much bad press and so much. You know, I just. I'm just waiting to see if he's able to tune all of that out.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Which he seems like he is, cuz, like, dealing with a heart attack.

[Rory]

I'm also curious how LeBron is going to handle a lot of that, especially being on the same team.

[Mal]

That, too. But I just think it's gangster that Bronnie gonna be driving his pops to the game and they get out the car together and they catch them walking in the game. I just think that's fly.

[Julian]

That's the. The tunnel. When they walk, they walk out together.

[Mal]

That we get to see that.

[Rory]

You guys think they're gonna carpool? Huh? Think they're gonna carpool?

[Julian]

Have to in la, right?

[Mal]

Are you kidding me?

[Rory]

You don't think I mean, for environment reasons, my n. You don't think LeBron.

[Mal]

Is gonna ride shotgun and they get.

[Julian]

To ride in the fast lane because there's two of them in the car?

[Mal]

You don't think Braun is riding shotgun while his son drives them to work to either.

[Rory]

I assume they both had drivers.

[Mal]

They not. No, no, no, we ain't.

[Julian]

Bryce is the driver.

[Rory]

Do they live together still?

[Julian]

No, no. I don't know.

[Rory]

It could be a whole wing of the house that could be his. I don't know.

[Mal]

Yeah, they still live in the same house.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Julian]

Absolutely, man.

[Damaris]

I wouldn't move out either. I ain't gonna lie.

[Mal]

I'm not moving.

[Rory]

Not to see your family in a house like that if you don't want to.

[Julian]

My criticism this whole time has never been directed at Bronnie. I think he's a great kid. I think his life, no matter what, is going to be amazing. I always. There's one thing LeBron said at the beginning of this process, even years ago, before Bronnie was even at usc, he said, my biggest regret was giving Bronny my name. Because he'll always be looked at, like, live up to my.

[Mal]

Not only did you give him your name, you gave him your jersey, but Bron.

[Julian]

But this is the thing. This is. It's so hypocritical of Bron to say that and have the ability to look at himself and. And be upset that he did that. But then at the same time, you, like, he has the heart attack, he does the U.S. the USC route, and then you. You rip him out of his college experience and put him on your path. This is. I'm sure it's Bronnie's dream, but at first, this is bronze dream. So Bron robbed his son of his college experiences, developmental years.

[Damaris]

Okay?

[Julian]

So for the potential best years of your life and let's. This kid can do whatever the fuck he wants. He does not need to play basketball. But then you just bring him into this league that he is not prepared for, he's going to get scrutinized.

[Mal]

Every say he's not ready for it.

[Julian]

He's not prepared for the NBA.

[Mal]

As far as just the game. Just like.

[Julian]

No. Mentally, I'm sure he's.

[Mal]

This is what I'm trying to tell you. Guys that are pros now and guys that are retired that I've spoke to about this, they feel like right now he's better than some guys on NBA. A lot of guys on NBA roster.

[Rory]

Okay, well, he could have taken some more time to develop and be even better.

[Mal]

I'm with you on that. Now we look at. Because everybody. Oh, he only averaged four point something in his freshman year. So did Jimmy Butler. I'm not even Jimmy Butler's freshman year. Marquette. He didn't do anything. Now Jimmy stayed in school.

[Rory]

Like, come on.

[Mal]

He stayed in school in comparison. But now we're just. But we know Bronny is just given the opportunity to develop at the pro level again.

[Rory]

My. I'm cool with this. My only issue is similar to what Julian is talking about. Don't make the last thing on your checklist of your career the first one on mine as your kid.

[Mal]

Like, I get it.

[Julian]

He's.

[Rory]

LeBron is trying to go off in the sunset. This was the last thing.

[Mal]

I get it.

[Rory]

LeBron has chips.

[Mal]

I get it.

[Rory]

MVP.

[Mal]

Anything you can think of. Know what I say to that.

[Rory]

First thing on his list is my son.

[Mal]

So what? So what? We've never seen it. We're never going to see it again. Jason Tatum is not going to be in the league when deuce is fucking 20 years old and try to enter the draft. Tatum is not going to still be played back.

[Damaris]

And also, y'all don't like. Y'all saying like, let him stay in. Y'all saying let him stay in and let him develop. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Bronnie could have stayed in school and blew out his knee and never got to the NBA and never got to play with his dad. Y'all keep putting it like that's only Brian.

[Rory]

He could also blow out his knee in the first NBA game.

[Mal]

I guarantee he made it though.

[Damaris]

He made it and he played with his dad. I guarantee he wanted this more than LeBron did. Y'all keep saying this is LeBron's dream to play with your dad.

[Mal]

Definitely. It's definitely LeBron's dream to have his son play with him.

[Damaris]

Yes, but it's also Bronnie's dream. Exactly.

[Mal]

I think to go to the NBA.

[Damaris]

To play with my father.

[Rory]

I think that's a cool add on.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

I don't think Bronnie would have been upset the way LeBron would have been upset if Brown Bronnie just went to the league. That was his goal.

[Mal]

Yeah, but. But like Baby D just said, what happens next year if like we gotta listen.

[Rory]

I hate that comparison. Anything with sports heart attack. Because that could happen.

[Julian]

So we rip him out of college and put him in most high pressure league under those lights at the Staples Center.

[Mal]

Not that we rip him out of college. We Give him his opportunity to prove.

[Julian]

It's just un.

[Mal]

It's just.

[Julian]

He's not. Look, if the goal is to get to league, get to league on your term. It's. It just annoys me that it doesn't seem like Bronnie's in control or in the driver's seat of any of the actions that's happening in his life. That's what I'm critical of LeBron choosing the path for Bronnie that best fits his timeline.

[Mal]

I get what you said.

[Julian]

That's my problem.

[Mal]

I get what you're saying. But the thing about it is, Julian, if your dad is LeBron and the route that LeBron took and, you know, as great as we thought LeBron would be coming out of high school, LeBron James overachieved.

[Julian]

He did, of course.

[Rory]

Yeah, he definitely did.

[Mal]

He surpassed everything that people ever said he would be and he would do. I think that LeBron looked at it like, listen, my son had a heart attack. You know, life is fragile. I don't. We don't know what tomorrow, if we're able to make this happen right now, if LeBron. Cause here's the thing about it. If Bronny went on to do four years of UFC and average 15 points a game, guess what? People would still be saying he's not good enough to go.

[Rory]

Oh, I mean, that's a fact for sure. And I take back a little.

[Mal]

You understand what I'm saying? So it's like, regardless if it happened after his freshman year or his senior year, the writers and the analysts will be saying he's only gonna get drafted because he's James junior.

[Damaris]

Exactly. No matter what he did.

[Mal]

So we could stop this shit. Like, oh, LeBron's throwing his dream. Of course it's LeBron's dream to want to play. Whose dream? Who wouldn't have that dream? As an athlete that has kids, that one day my son might be on the bench with me playing on the same. What father would not want that to be his reality? So, yes, LeBron James has worked hard enough. He's been consistent enough, he's been dominant enough, he's influential enough, he's powerful enough to make this happen. We've never seen it before. So what? Let it happen. Let it unfold. Let's watch the story. Because, again, what if Bronny turns out to be a very good. Why is nobody speaking to that side of the story? What if he turns out, he goes into Vegas summer league, he goes into training camp, he starts fucking killing. He picks up the NBA game fast. He adjusts quickly and becomes a very good. He just has to be Derek Fisher.

[Julian]

Don't do that.

[Mal]

Don't do what?

[Rory]

Just having to be Derek Fisher is crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah. Not a hard.

[Rory]

Just having to be Derek Fisher.

[Julian]

Derek Fisher can hit one of the most shots in Laker history.

[Mal]

It's still only one shot shot.

[Rory]

Well, not compared to Robert Ory, but it's still one.

[Mal]

I'm just saying that Derek Fish wanting over Derek Fish's numbers don't just Robert.

[Rory]

Ori against the Kings fam.

[Julian]

That there. All right, look, I'm not y'all talking.

[Mal]

About that got nothing to do with nothing. I'm talking about some real. All Bronnie has to. Yeah, because all this other is stupid. All Bronnie has to do is just be a decent player. Derek Fisher is not a out one in the life once in a lifetime player. He's just a good player.

[Rory]

He was a great player.

[Julian]

He was a great. He was a great.

[Mal]

As far as going great around too much.

[Julian]

He played on the championship team.

[Mal]

So this Mark Madsen, he's not a great player. So did Samaki Walker. He's not a great player.

[Rory]

You don't think in the role he played with the Lakers did not make him a great point guard?

[Mal]

No, I don't think Derek Fisher was a great point guard. I think he was a.

[Rory]

You think he's Mario Chalmers. That's what you think.

[Damaris]

Think.

[Mal]

Yeah. Mario Chalmers is not a great point guard.

[Rory]

I know you're talking about him like he. He's Mario Chalmers.

[Mal]

What did Derek Fisher average for his career bro.

[Julian]

On that Laker, you can't talk about.

[Rory]

The impact Derek Fiser had on that team.

[Mal]

Derek Fish is not a great player.

[Julian]

Double digits average on the. On the two championship. On the Lakers team that he won rings double figure scorer.

[Mal]

That's a great player.

[Rory]

On your team.

[Mal]

Not a great.

[Julian]

Would you probably get what, 10 touches a game.

[Rory]

I'm not saying he's Tony Parker, but you can't say he's not.

[Mal]

When you're a great player, you get more than three, four shots a game. When you're a great player, the team is. Is revolving honestly Shaq and Kobe, so what he went to other teams with Kobe wasn't on his team. Was he a great player there?

[Rory]

He was older man.

[Mal]

Derek Fisher is not a career.

[Rory]

Is he a great coach?

[Mal]

Cut the no, he's not a great player. He's not a great coach. He ain't a great.

[Rory]

Actually I have heard some nasty. He's actually Done some nasty.

[Mal]

Ain't nothing great about Derek Fisher. Derek the was great. I don't see. And then y'all do that.

[Damaris]

I don't like that.

[Rory]

I don't hate. That's what y'all do to me. Anytime I go on a rant about.

[Mal]

Something, you be hating. Who do I hate? Everybody.

[Damaris]

Everything. Everyone.

[Julian]

Chris Rock.

[Mal]

Yeah. You said Little Y stole Child's drums. He didn't even heard the drum. That's eight.

[Rory]

That means I hate Lil Yachty.

[Mal]

That means you hate that he had those drums.

[Rory]

No, I like those drums.

[Damaris]

You a hater.

[Mal]

You. You a hater. I'm not hating. I'm hating the fact that y'all putting the name great on a player that wasn't great. I'm hating with y'allison.

[Rory]

With the drums. Great.

[Mal]

Drums are really good. Drums are really good. But, yeah, that's all I'm hating.

[Julian]

Five time NBA champion, Ma.

[Mal]

Thank you, Shaq. Thank you, Kobe. That's all I'm saying. So all Bronny has to do is go in and be a good player, and the. And the pick is not wasted. That's all I'm saying. It's gonna be a lot of pressure, but he knows that. He knows. He knows his last name. He knows who he looks like. He knows who his daddy is. He knows it's gonna be tough. I'm just happy to see a young black kid experience nepotism at this level.

[Damaris]

Yes. And I just want everybody to stop putting all this onus on LeBron. Because I don't think that Savannah and LeBron are pressuring Bronny to do something that Bronny doesn't want to do. Bronnie very often wants to do this, baby.

[Mal]

D, we know a bunch of kids that. That come from great families and can experience nepotism at the highest level. Guess what? A lot of them is strung out on drugs. Is. Is doing all kind of getting arrested, DUIs, all kind of shit. So now that we see nepotism on a level where a kid can become a professional player and just get a shot to. To prove people wrong, I'm rooting for that shit. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. With none of these people. Oh, Bron got. Yeah. So what. What your daddy got you? Cause all my daddy got me was a motherfucker old starter pistol. That's what I got handed down.

[Damaris]

For real.

[Mal]

Not me. I'm just saying. Okay. You know, not me.

[Rory]

I actually loved her genuine concern. Like, really?

[Mal]

Yeah. No. Oh, my gosh, no. But I'm just Saying like we don't get to experience that type of nepotism.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like so for us to be able to see it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because if this was a part of a movie script, we would all sat there and watch it like, man, this will never forget the out of here with this unbelievable.

[Damaris]

Well, I hope he does really well because I think that if. If he does really well and has like that story where he becomes the greatest. The movie is amazing. We're gonna like that story.

[Rory]

I get ahead of ourselves.

[Mal]

That's. That story is.

[Rory]

Come on, bro.

[Damaris]

You a hater. You hater. Look at you.

[Julian]

I'm really rooting for.

[Rory]

I started this out with saying I hate the Lakers, but I'm rooting for. For Bronnie and LeBron.

[Mal]

And then your emotions changed, so now you hate her.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You're true color.

[Mal]

Because she said he has the potential.

[Rory]

To be one of the greatest.

[Damaris]

No, that's not what I That's not what I said. That's not what I said. I said the movie. I said if he has that amazing comeback story. Story, this movie has the potential to be.

[Rory]

I thought it's comebacks doing a metaphor.

[Mal]

And said Derek Fisher was a great player.

[Julian]

Yeah, great role player.

[Mal]

Great role.

[Rory]

Okay. Was he a great role player? Can you go with that?

[Julian]

Come on in that system.

[Mal]

Great role player.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's all. I said he was a great player.

[Mal]

You said he was a great player.

[Julian]

I said he was a great role player.

[Mal]

That's not. No, I said he said he was a great player.

[Rory]

No, I know you said that. I know I said that.

[Mal]

You did. You said he's a great player.

[Julian]

Started yelling before I said great player.

[Rory]

And then I said in that system was wasn't he great? But I did definitely that he was a great player.

[Mal]

Thought he was a great player.

[Rory]

He also thinks Derek Fisher shot was better than Robert or so I don't even know where we can go there.

[Julian]

I'm not. Why is it always got to be better than I said they're both incredible shots. That's all I said. I never said it was better than Robert Ories.

[Mal]

Listen.

[Damaris]

Did too.

[Mal]

Listen. Jalen Brunson great player. Derek Fisher ain't Jalen Brunson.

[Julian]

Well, why are you comparing it to an all star? That's not fair.

[Mal]

Exactly my point.

[Julian]

But you can compare him to another role player. That's.

[Mal]

That would be a more T.J. mcConnell.

[Julian]

It's even lesser than that. I would say this is just Derek.

[Mal]

Fish is a less of a player than T.J. mcConnell. And you called him great.

[Julian]

I didn't call him great.

[Mal]

No. What is he talking about?

[Damaris]

This is that. This is the a. Listen all over.

[Mal]

Great system player. You didn't say system. Did not come out your mouth.

[Julian]

System.

[Mal]

Now it did.

[Damaris]

Julian. It's okay to say I was wrong.

[Julian]

I wasn't wrong.

[Mal]

Listen, man. Shout out to Bronnie James. Shout out to the James family. Shout out to Savannah.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Savannah.

[Mal]

Her husband and her son got a job. Yeah, she's doing all right. She's holding that household down. She's doing pretty good.

[Julian]

Isn't Zuri, like, killing it on YouTube? And.

[Rory]

Yeah, didn't Savannah just start a podcast as well?

[Mal]

Great family, man. That's black royalty, right?

[Rory]

Workers in that family.

[Mal]

Shout out to the James family. Shout out to Rich Paul and said don't none of you draft. Shout out to Adele. Why you went.

[Julian]

Is she still with Rich?

[Mal]

Yeah, she loved Rich.

[Julian]

Nice.

[Mal]

That's how man. Her man.

[Rory]

Her man humming Set it right on. Right on stage in Vegas.

[Julian]

Yeah, you wanna stay on basketball? Guys, did you see the WNBA All Star lineups?

[Mal]

WNBA All Star versus the USA Women's National Team. The national team is gonna smoke the WNBA All Stars. It is what it is. But I do like this. I do like them putting the WNBA All Stars against the USA National Team. I think that's a cool way to kind of spin. It's unfair, but it's cool because none of y'all can guard Asia or. Or Diana Tausi. But, you know, it is what it is.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch.

[Julian]

This is a fun stat. So they. They of votes. The top five women that were voted from the 2023 All Star ranking to the top five from this year. And look at the jump in amount of votes from just a year's difference.

[Mal]

That's awesome.

[Julian]

This is incredible.

[Mal]

Shout out to Kaitn Clark and Angel Reese. Man, they. Again, we spoke about the. The way they've lifted and elevated the WNBA platform. I just hope that it reflects obviously in these types of votes. People coming out to games, people buying merch, people. The women, the. The players getting paid more. If people support the league more. You see how it all just is a.

[Rory]

A cycle of giving liberty 17 and three.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Can we go? Their games are fun and they play the Barclays. They're not, like, playing in, like, some rinky dink.

[Damaris]

And Ellie's the best. Ellie's so cute.

[Rory]

I'm the only one here that has been to a wnba.

[Julian]

I did courtside of Liberty last year.

[Damaris]

And shout out To Brianna Stewart. Big Syracuse, baby. Big Syracuse vibe.

[Mal]

Oh, she's from Syracuse.

[Julian]

Connecticut legend. Connecticut legend.

[Mal]

So why she ain't go to Syracuse?

[Julian]

Because no one wants.

[Rory]

Do they have a woman's program like that?

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Syracuse.

[Rory]

I. I really don't know. I mean, of course I know UConn has amazing.

[Damaris]

I mean, it's not.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like if. Is it comparable? Clearly she's extremely good at basketball. Yeah, but Brian, was there an incentive for her to go to syracuse instead of UConn?

[Mal]

You as good when you as great as Brianna? It. I stay home and elevate the program.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Mal]

That's all. Y'all can't beat us.

[Julian]

They just broke another the eight. The game. It was like yesterday. Two days ago. The Aces and the Fever just broke attendance record. It was over 20,000.

[Mal]

People shout out to Caitlin Clark.

[Julian]

Yeah. And that game was in Vegas.

[Mal]

So I saw a clip of Caitlyn Clark. Somebody asked her if she gets like, in game advice and shit from like, players and teammates. And she was like. She said no. I wish. Like, nobody talks to me.

[Damaris]

Why would you say.

[Rory]

But it's also a professional level competition. Like, no.

[Mal]

Like, even her teammates don't give her.

[Rory]

Well, that's fucking craziness.

[Mal]

Not just. Not just the opposing.

[Rory]

And that's crazy.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like nobody.

[Rory]

No. I just saw Shorty apologize.

[Julian]

But that was the literal quote. Maul wasn't exaggerating.

[Mal]

Nobody gives me advice in games. I wish.

[Rory]

No, but was it the other team?

[Mal]

No. She's talking about nobody said nobody.

[Julian]

Which just isn't true.

[Rory]

That can't be true.

[Damaris]

How are you gonna tell her what's true for her?

[Julian]

Because that's not. It's a team sport. They taught. Like, there's no way she's just walking around this whole franchise and no one's giving her a word.

[Mal]

Join. Julian. Julian. They don't even come to her aid when bitches is throwing her to the ground. They don't even pick her up.

[Damaris]

They don't pick her up.

[Mal]

You think they're giving her advice like, yo, you should set the screen next time and come off and get it to your two. Two dribble. Pull up. We not even helping up off the floor.

[Damaris]

Like, it's so. It's so amazing to see the difference between her. Like, for example, Angel. Angel Reese is such a. She's a rookie, but she's such a leader on her team. Like her. Her team team is so tight knit. Like they have come out all the time and stuff.

[Mal]

Yeah, but the way the Way that team welcomed Angel Reese, they was dead wrong for that.

[Damaris]

Yeah. No, how they welcomed her was.

[Mal]

Yeah, you saw that welcome to her.

[Damaris]

Yes, I saw it.

[Julian]

Oh that little like high school like. Yeah. So how they welcome Caitlin Clark, they threw a parade.

[Mal]

Like how they did Angel Reese like.

[Julian]

That injuries walked into a high school gymnasium. It was like this is it.

[Mal]

It was like two fold out chairs in a table.

[Rory]

But how does, how does the NBA like welcome rookies when you're. Carry my bag when you're the top. LeBron even said that he just have to carry bags his rookies.

[Mal]

That's, that's part of. I'm talking about welcoming one of the biggest names to the league.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Come on fam, you gotta, you gotta welcome Angel a little better than that. That's all I'm saying.

[Damaris]

But yeah, she, she seems like such a amazing. She's going to be. Caitlyn may be like the star when it comes to like points and like that. Angel Reese is the star rookie when it like her whole Persona and everything. Like.

[Mal]

Well, I think angel, angel is more, more. She's more marketable away from the game than Caitlin is. But when you talk about.

[Rory]

She gives more of a personality to the public. I don't know, we don't know either of these women.

[Mal]

But when you talk about tickets and viewership, people are gonna lean more towards Caitlyn cause her style of play, obviously she's one of the greatest shooters. But angel, when you talk about marketing and you talk about sponsorships and things like that, like angel has that personality that look that the WNBA can grow outside of just on the court, the game. Caitlyn is going to elevate the game as far as just skill play, things like that. Angel's been killing too.

[Damaris]

I was about to say shout out to her. She broke the record for most double back to back double doubles, double doubles.

[Mal]

But I think this is why they need each other is because it's. They both are going to elevate the WNBA in different areas. Gameplay and then marketing, which is why it's special to have them in the league at the same time.

[Rory]

Angel will give you Charles Barkley esque commercials of I'm not a role model type.

[Mal]

Exactly.

[Rory]

She'll do iconic marketing.

[Mal]

Exactly. She'll do.

[Damaris]

I, I just don't want that to get lost that she is also an amazing player.

[Rory]

And no, I don't think that's lost at all though.

[Damaris]

While Caitlyn's over there saying that none of her teammates give her advice. Angel Reese's Teammates won't stop talking about how amazing a teammate she is.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, I, I get it.

[Rory]

Like, you know, women are shady.

[Mal]

Yeah. They just don't, you know, people don't, they don't like Kaitin Clark for whatever reason. I don't, I don't know what it is. Never met her. She probably. Caitlyn Clark could be an. I don't know, I've never met her, but.

[Rory]

Or she could be hysterical.

[Mal]

She could be Jim Carrey.

[Rory]

She could be, you know, why a white comedian though? That's. She has a racist Chris Rock. Yeah. Why couldn't she be the Chris Rock of the wmb?

[Mal]

All right, she's the Jim Carrey's funnier whatever. But Jim Carrey is funnier than Chris Rock.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

Yes. Let's go.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

Fire it up.

[Rory]

They're two totally different, different comedians. Compare. They're not comparable at all.

[Mal]

Never seen a Jim Carrey stand up.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

He's not a stand up.

[Damaris]

He's not stand up.

[Mal]

So how is he? Oh, he's a funnier comedic actor.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that's not fair. Like, I give you that.

[Mal]

He's a funnier comedic actor. 100.

[Julian]

He's a much better.

[Mal]

But when you say he's funnier than. I don't know if Jim Carrey is funny.

[Damaris]

I feel like if Jim Carrey and Chris Rock were in the room together with you, I feel like Jim Carrey would make you laugh more than Chris Rock would make you laugh.

[Julian]

Well, that's actually true.

[Mal]

Different types of comedy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Jim Carrey is more of a clown, like Jim Carrier do clown, where Chris Rock might react to something and say something and you'll start like, yo, that was.

[Rory]

I've seen that question before of like, if all the comedians in the room, who would make you laugh the most? I think like Tracy Morgan and Mike Epps would make me laugh before Chappelle would. In a room. Yeah, like they're that type of funny.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They're on the block funny.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So that's such a weird.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I think Jim Carrey would make me laugh before Chris Rock in a room.

[Damaris]

But I feel like, yo, Mike, if.

[Rory]

I wanted someone with a microphone to just talk. Chris Rock. And it's not even remotely close.

[Damaris]

If you put, put, if you put all the comedians in the room, who do you think will make you laugh the hardest? It might be Cat for me, because you don't even gotta open his mouth.

[Rory]

Yeah. Cat would be up there for sure.

[Julian]

You're just seeing him is funny.

[Damaris]

Cat, don't Even get up.

[Rory]

Just seeing Cat, like, raise his eyebrow might make me start dying laughing or.

[Damaris]

Roll his eyes at somebody or something that walk in.

[Mal]

Boy, Cat Williams just walking in a room is funny because I'm like, yo, what is out?

[Julian]

It's gonna be crazy off the outfit alone.

[Mal]

Yeah. Katt Williams just walking in a room. I'm gonna laugh.

[Damaris]

And I feel like Kevin Hart is probably way funnier in person than he is on stage. I feel like Kevin Hart is probably up.

[Rory]

That would be funny.

[Damaris]

Like, insane to be around.

[Mal]

Yeah, for sure. I don't know what we were. Oh, Shout out to Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese, WNBA versus USA national team. My money's on Asia and Diana Taurosi. That's all rolling with them.

[Damaris]

I'm gonna try to get us Liberty tickets.

[Mal]

And shout out to Bronny. Once again, fuck y'all for hating and being mad at nepotism. I support. Support black and Hispanic nepotism. Let us get a taste of the nep.

[Rory]

The nepotism before we get to voicemails. I mean, we can. A lot of new music came out. Maybe we saved that for Patreon.

[Damaris]

No, we need to talk about new music.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

We have to talk.

[Rory]

I think Lucky Days is candidate. We're in July, right?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So little past halfway through the year. Lucky Day may have album of the year for me.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Mal]

You think his album is better than Bright Bryson's? Nah. Yeah. No, sir.

[Rory]

Kinda.

[Mal]

Yeah. That Bryson album is crazy.

[Rory]

I think it's unfair to say ah, man to Bryson right now because Lucky Day just came out. But that Lucky Day album is very special.

[Mal]

It's a good album. It's a really good album.

[Julian]

I'm still on my first listen. We were listening to it mall while we were hanging out here, but there's. I'm seven songs in. There's not a miss so far.

[Rory]

So that Bryson Tiller album is really, really good. But off just weekend listen. Yeah, that Lucky Day is crazy.

[Mal]

No, it's a good album. I like it. I like. I like Lucky Day.

[Rory]

I like his album Lucky Days.

[Mal]

He's on tour soon, right?

[Rory]

I would imagine.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And this album, I need to see live. It's one of those that you need to see live.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But just looking back at Lucky's catalog right now, we need to start having some conversations. He don't really miss, like, at all. His albums are crazy.

[Julian]

What's he three for three now?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Did Givon drop something?

[Rory]

If he did, I missed it.

[Damaris]

I've been waiting for Givon.

[Rory]

Same.

[Mal]

I like Kind of. Y'all kind of canceled him after he.

[Damaris]

I ain't cancel a ass thing after him.

[Mal]

And I went right to his Justine sky little breakup.

[Rory]

And I love that he started his album with his grandma saying, yo, it's okay. It was. It was her fault.

[Julian]

That's like his Will Smith moment.

[Mal]

Hold me down, Granny.

[Rory]

Yeah, no accountability.

[Julian]

Did you guys. Anyone else here? I asked Rory. I don't think he listened to it yet, but any of you, either of you, check out the James Blake Yachty album, Bad Cameo.

[Damaris]

I did.

[Julian]

Thoughts?

[Damaris]

It's cool.

[Julian]

It's all right.

[Damaris]

That's cool.

[Julian]

I love James Blake's sound, and I thought Yachty might be able to pair well with it, but it's a little. I thought.

[Rory]

I was worried about it coming off.

[Julian]

Of Yachty's last album. I had, like, a high expectation because I thought that sound lent itself more to what James Blake could, like, compliment meant. But I. It wasn't. It just. It kind of. Just kind of became too drab and just like, all right, yeah, I get it.

[Rory]

I'm gonna listen to it, because I do with both of them. But the episode that you missed, we had the exact same take.

[Julian]

Oh, really?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

I didn't listen to that.

[Rory]

His last album. This could actually work. But we were worried.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

If it was, like, maybe five, six records, I would feel great. It's. It's just. It's too much.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Love them both, though.

[Damaris]

Well, you guys know I'm here to always stand up for the women. Megan dropped her latest album. Have you guys heard it? First of all, shout out to Child for his placement with the Victoria, Monet and Megan songs Yachty could never. Yeah, Shout out to Child.

[Julian]

He wrote the city girl's best record.

[Rory]

I'm obviously joking.

[Damaris]

Friend of the show. Have you guys heard Megan's new album?

[Rory]

I heard a few records. Again, I didn't have very much time between last week and today to listen to much, but I am going to listen. Listen to it. You were sending me records.

[Damaris]

I was.

[Rory]

There's a. There's a pimp C verse on there.

[Damaris]

Unreleased Pimp C verse on there. That's one of my favorite songs on the album. It's really good. So she leaned completely into rap, this album.

[Rory]

I mean, didn't we assume that was as she.

[Damaris]

Yeah, her last album. Her last album had rap on it, but it wasn't this much rap and paid it dust.

[Rory]

That's kind of weird, though, judging by the singles. Like. Like, judging by the singles for this album, I thought she wasn't gonna go rap.

[Damaris]

I mean, if you go to the singles, the singles aren't rap, right? Yeah, the singles weren't rap, but the album is heavy rap. She has two Japanese based songs on there, one with a Japanese rapper. Her anime fans are loving that.

[Julian]

Smart for her to keep.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure. She definitely should. It makes her stand out. But yeah, it is very heavily rap based. But I don't. Like I said, I don't blame her. Her last album, she took risks and nobody cares cared. They complained about. She changed her flow. On the last album she changed her substance and nobody gave a. So she leans back into rap and you know, it works for her. I like it a lot. I like, I really like it a lot. She has a Tina Marie sample on there. Like she did her thing. Whoever put it together because a Tina re Drill sample I'm here for.

[Mal]

Yeah, I didn't hear it yet, but I, I do. I just looking at Megan and what she's doing right now and you know, being on, on tour and seeing clips of the show and things like that, like she seems to be more of a well rounded artist now than she's probably ever been. Stage performance, music, just physically, I'm guessing she's probably in a better space emotionally and mentally as well. So I'm rooting for Megan. I like Megan a lot. Like I said, her performance at the BET Award awards, I think she, she stood out. Head above any other female rapper that touched the stage.

[Damaris]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

But for sure. Got voicemails.

[Mal]

You've got mail.

[Julian]

Dude, this is, this is a fun one. I got a couple good ones I listened to this morning. So here we go.

[Mal]

Hey, y'all. Just want to say first off, I appreciate the pods so much.

[Damaris]

You guys actually helped me get through my devotion divorce.

[Mal]

So thank you for that.

[Damaris]

All right, let me just get straight to it. So my name is Kalani.

[Mal]

I'm 27, I'm from the Bay Area.

[Damaris]

Like I said, I'm divorced.

[Mal]

I got married at 18.

[Rory]

10 out of 10 from the Bay Area.

[Mal]

Calm your loins. That's not that Kaylani.

[Julian]

Okay, so she's married at 18, divorced now, 27.

[Rory]

Got it.

[Damaris]

But yeah.

[Mal]

Anyway, I stayed single for a while after my divorce and then decided to start dating again.

[Damaris]

A few months into me dating around, I met somebody and we hit it off instantly.

[Mal]

He's much older than me, he's 44, but shit just flowed like very naturally. But fast forward.

[Damaris]

We've been dating for seven months now and I feel like he has a.

[Mal]

Really big red flag that being. He told me me, he moves like we're in a relationship. He acts like we're in a relationship.

[Damaris]

But he is afraid to make that final commitment to me of being in a relationship because in his past, he's always cheated on people he was actually in a relationship with.

[Julian]

And I feel like anything before we finish. No, no.

[Rory]

The way. Oh, older guys spin younger women is. I don't want so obvious in their face.

[Mal]

How old is she?

[Julian]

She's 27.

[Rory]

Not super, super young, but he's 44.

[Julian]

I can't wait.

[Rory]

Clearly, he only probably dates younger women because he likes to spin women.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

So you can continue on.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

This is sick.

[Damaris]

All right, at this point, is it manipulation? Is it like saying, oh, quick answer, because I'm a placeholder. I'm asking y'all because I know you guys are going to give it to me straight. I know there's brutal honesty on this pod. And as a person that's already been through the ringer, I need the.

[Mal]

I need the brutal honesty like I.

[Damaris]

Need y'all to just give it to me straight. What do you think?

[Julian]

Do you want to lead with. Dump them or not?

[Rory]

I want to lead with. It's her fault.

[Julian]

Ooh, here we go with this. Here we go.

[Mal]

It is.

[Rory]

But she just asked for brutal honesty from us. The guy she's dating just gave her.

[Damaris]

Brutal honesty, and she ain't taking it.

[Rory]

So what the Am I. No, exactly. I'm not going to give you brutal honesty because that guy just gave you honesty, and now you're asking, what should I do? What do you think you should do?

[Mal]

You see, and that's the difference when you dealing with a nigga that's really pimping Bay Area. That's pimping right there. You give it to a straight. Listen, I ain't. This is what it is, and this is what it ain't. Deal with it or don't.

[Damaris]

But that's not what he. That's not how he presented it. How he presented it. How he presented it was hilarious. And, you know, we have an amazing time, but any other time I've been in a relationship and I just cheated, and I don't wanna disappoint you like that. I don't wanna let you down or hurt you, so I just don't think I'm ready. Manipulated her.

[Rory]

He's saying, you don't manipulation.

[Julian]

He said, you don't deserve that version of me because I know I'll hurt you. So how about we just stay in, like, this gray area where, like, I don't actually commit, I could other but not feel as bad.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, that. No, that's what he's saying for sure.

[Julian]

Don't get me wrong, 44.

[Rory]

But he's giving her the option if he was still continuing on to do this relationship and saying, yo, we're in a relationship, but still around. That's manipulation. No, that's straight up.

[Damaris]

Told her cheating. He didn't.

[Mal]

He's not. He's not manipulating nothing because he's telling her exactly what it is.

[Damaris]

He's not telling exactly what it is. Is I don't want to be with you.

[Mal]

No, no, but. No, he said I want to.

[Rory]

You and other women.

[Mal]

Yeah, but what if it's not that? What if he wants to be with her?

[Damaris]

He doesn't want to be with her. He does.

[Mal]

No, he's with her. He's just saying, like, yo, like in my past, whenever we try to take shit to a certain level, it just always. You know what I mean? It goes. It. It just falls apart.

[Damaris]

It doesn't fall apart. I cheat.

[Mal]

It falls apart.

[Rory]

And if she decides to stay with him, he's getting ahead of getting caught cheating and going, yo, I told you so.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's manipulation. Is that manipulation, though, laying the groundwork for manipulation?

[Mal]

He's giving her.

[Rory]

He could lay the groundwork for it.

[Damaris]

No, listen, I'm not taking her off the hook because it's shitty manipulation. He is with his actions telling you what it. It don't matter why he don't want to be with you. He don't want to be with you. I don't give a fuck if he said, I don't want to be with you because I'm afraid. My mama told me that if I get in a relationship, I'm get cancer. I don't give a fuck what the reasoning is. I don't want to be with you, period. Doesn't matter what comes because. Whatever comes after the comma.

[Mal]

Nah, but you got to give the because, though.

[Damaris]

No, I don't want to be with you. He's telling you he don't want to be with you. You talking about that's a red flag? No, that's a decision. He made a decision. There's a flag.

[Rory]

He's saying, I want to be with you on my terms. And if you don't want those terms, leave.

[Mal]

The door is right there.

[Julian]

Yeah, I was going to say, I.

[Rory]

Told you exactly how I operate, and if that's not something for you, I'm telling You now before seven months in, that's when. I mean sometimes way earlier earlier. But I've seen people talk for seven months and then finally start having those conversations. It's been seven months. Like what do we do? I know people that have been talking for 10 years never had those conversations.

[Damaris]

That's insane.

[Mal]

That's pimping right there.

[Damaris]

I need to know the intention.

[Mal]

10 years and she still don't know what we is.

[Rory]

You can't see.

[Julian]

What are you talking about did that for.

[Mal]

Yeah. One of your friends dated somebody?

[Julian]

No, my. One of my dad.

[Rory]

You got some nerve.

[Damaris]

Why the you looking at me?

[Rory]

You don't understand that.

[Damaris]

Listen at grown at. At the big ass age of 27, you. You don't know what we are seven months in. No, we should.

[Rory]

No, they're having the conversation now. It's seven months which I think is healthy.

[Damaris]

We shouldn't be having that. That's a conversation about whether there's a potential for us to be in a relationship. After a month she's divorced. I didn't say you have to because.

[Mal]

I didn't even see your toes without polish. I don't know if I love.

[Rory]

Have you even you haven't shitted in my house yet.

[Julian]

A month.

[Damaris]

No, after a month you can have the discussion about not maybe not where we're going, but whether you want a relationship or not.

[Rory]

You can't understand a girl that was married at 18, divorced at 26, 27, just around for a bit and at seven months with a 44 year old, that conversation finally happening. You think that happened in month one with a divorcee and a 44 year old male? That clearly does not settle down.

[Mal]

She's in her phase of just like trying to enjoy.

[Rory]

She said she was dating around and just connected more with this guy.

[Damaris]

Okay, that makes sense. All the rest of y'all don't have no excuse.

[Mal]

That 44 y old got a hold of that little took her in that back room. The said I didn't even know my legs could been that far.

[Rory]

You know he.

[Mal]

I know what he was doing.

[Rory]

His eyes lit up when she said I'm 27 and divorced. He said oh I, I could take you for three or four years with.

[Mal]

Oh, really?

[Damaris]

For your 20. Your entire 20s was spent with a.

[Mal]

Oh my God, Mary. Oh that's like. That's like putting LeBron in the G league.

[Julian]

That's a rare Pokemon.

[Mal]

It's too easy. It's too easy. And you.

[Rory]

And you know he showed her the world like you know when someone like gets out of jail and did a crazy bid and then you show them an iPhone and you're like, yo, what the. You know she got out of that shit from 18 to 27.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And was like, what's a restaurant?

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. Stop her head.

[Rory]

Wait. People go on vacation.

[Mal]

Yeah. Fuck that up. That's too easy for that. He.

[Julian]

I want to talk to him.

[Mal]

I might be with Baby D on this one. He. He know what he doing.

[Damaris]

He know what he doing.

[Mal]

He know what he doing.

[Damaris]

He knows exactly what he's doing. He know.

[Rory]

But you don't respect it. At least he straight up said that.

[Mal]

When I respect that, I respect that.

[Damaris]

But also, also shorty, let me tell you something, baby, you haven't really dated. Yes. You connecting with a 44 year old. You're 27. That nigga has about five years, maybe eight left of his dick working.

[Mal]

What you did go out at 50.

[Damaris]

Have. Have fun.

[Rory]

Luchu. No, Rory and mall Code have.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Fun with him.

[Julian]

Papa Chewy.

[Damaris]

Enjoy your time. Make them spend money on you. Run around like. Enjoy your singleness with an older man. It's the greatest. They spend a lot of money, they're a lot of fun. They give you a lot of knowledge. Girl. Go. When you ready to start seriously dating again and get somebody that's within five years of your age range. You don't want that old ass nigga. You're not going to want him in five years. I'm telling you. You not want him.

[Rory]

She probably likes because he's older. More of a structure because he just.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Whole marriage. So. Yeah, I see why she went after an older dude right away.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you don't want to. You don't want him to be your long term and he don't want you to be his long term.

[Julian]

You don't want. Well said that. Yeah, he wants no terms.

[Mal]

No, he want her to bring her friend in the bedroom.

[Julian]

I'm on.

[Rory]

I mean there's no hints there, but I, I imagine he probably wouldn't mind.

[Julian]

I'm on demer side if it's financially like if this guy is doing well enough to just support you and just like kind of, you know, spoil you a bit. Run with with it. Don't expect from him emotionally. Go to nice dinners.

[Damaris]

No, she's attachment Barbie. She got married at 18. It's attachment Barbie. She, she can't. She's not gonna be out here spinning the 44 year old. The 44 year old is gonna be out here spinning her because she don't even have no experience spinning.

[Julian]

I wonder where she lives.

[Damaris]

You have no.

[Rory]

She's Kehlani from the bay.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, she's. Kehlani is from the bay.

[Mal]

Did she move that?

[Julian]

She just go on a whole new train.

[Mal]

Pimping, man. I know pimping when I hear pimping. And you about to put her on the stroll and I feel you.

[Damaris]

Stop mall.

[Mal]

I'm trying to tell you some real shit. Y'all think I'm joking.

[Rory]

And I feel like that honesty kind of turned her on too, because she just went probably through five, six years of lies with the divorce. So when he straight up said what it was, she probably liked that shit.

[Damaris]

In the words of Rory, honesty can be toxic too.

[Rory]

It definitely can be, man, listen.

[Damaris]

Honesty can be toxic.

[Mal]

He gonna sit her down like, listen, baby, bills is getting tight. You gotta go out there and do something strange for Lil P. Stop you being disrespectful. I know how these older. Listen, I'm an older dick, so I know he older than me.

[Damaris]

You got somebody on the stroll?

[Mal]

Who, me? Yeah, you. Nah, that's an old life. I don't do that no more. But I'm just saying I know what he trying to do. Oh, I know what he trying to. She green. She all this is. She's. She just got out of a nine year. She was married.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

Yeah, this nigga hit the jackpot. I'm telling you what this nigga hit.

[Julian]

Out of high school. She got married at 18. So in high school. They were probably together for.

[Rory]

For or probably wasn't. Wasn't able to experience any nice things.

[Julian]

Nothing.

[Mal]

He about to create her own.

[Damaris]

You ain't never had a. Send you a one way ticket to Miami, sis. You gotta live that old. You gotta live.

[Mal]

A oneway ticket to Miami is crazy. You gotta live being in Miami for more than three days. You ready to get out of there, like, all right, son, I'm ready to go home.

[Damaris]

Not if you never been there before. Single.

[Mal]

She probably travel. Did she say what she do for work?

[Julian]

No, no.

[Damaris]

You ain't never been to Miami Single at Nikki beach on a yacht.

[Rory]

God, it's only 27. She's young.

[Julian]

She is young. The good thing is she couldn't get.

[Rory]

So, yeah. My final thought on this is leave. He told you what it is. You were looking to have a relationship. I don't think you need a relationship right now. Just keep dating.

[Julian]

She needs hoe friends.

[Damaris]

Wait, did you make it out of that. That 10 year relationship with no kids?

[Rory]

I feel like she would have said that if she had kids. Kids.

[Mal]

My sis being married for nine years and making. And then getting divorced with no kids is crazy.

[Rory]

Especially 18.

[Damaris]

She made it out.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

But you don't know her situation. Let's not.

[Damaris]

Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's. That could be awful. Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Mal]

Well, if it's not anything health wise.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Do you think she has. She. I think she should get some hoe friends, show her the ropes.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Y'all not listening to it. I'm telling y'all, she is the whole friend, but like, she's this about to have on the street. All right, man, never mind. All right.

[Damaris]

She's a listener and a.

[Mal]

A.

[Damaris]

A Patreon user.

[Julian]

What if he's Patreon?

[Damaris]

A future prostitute.

[Mal]

Sex workers don't. Sex workers don't. Listen. Listen to our show. I know a few of them.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I know a few girls that got only fans that. Yes, he about to just manage her only fans account. She gonna be masturbating. You know, ain't nobody touching her. But he pimping. He. He the one that. He's controlling that account.

[Julian]

This is a paid member.

[Mal]

He responds.

[Rory]

She doesn't even have her own login.

[Mal]

Yeah, he responds into the dms. You know how that go. I know these is virtual pimping. That's all. Now, I'm not saying he gonna put on Figaro. She ain't about to be walking stress, but she. She about to get an Only Fans page popping and he gonna control it 100%. I know what it is.

[Rory]

Should be a Berkeley hoe, not a.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, I know where he headed with that.

[Damaris]

About to ask if any of my friends want to get into the Only Fans life. I would love to manage an only fan. Like, I would love to be an only Fans manager.

[Mal]

See, you were supposed to start your.

[Rory]

Only fans nasty dms.

[Damaris]

No, I. Yeah, it's just. It's a bad look.

[Julian]

I was out of your only fans. You wouldn't be on this pod anymore. You'd be making too much money. You get the out of here, y'all.

[Damaris]

I'll be out. But it's a bad look. I wouldn't do that because I don't like when people talk about me wrong. Like, and they get wrong.

[Mal]

But just do it. Do it. You can do.

[Julian]

Show whatever you want. It doesn't have to be your.

[Mal]

Do what Karuchi is doing. She got her. Her feet. Her feet. Page.

[Julian]

Just cook in a bra.

[Damaris]

You also, you invite a lot of you horny.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You invite a lot of energy and it's just like I experience enough horny just being on this podcast. Like I was. I went live yesterday and was cooking and asked me what my favorite sex toy was. Like, I, I, I don't like the horny energy.

[Mal]

Gangster.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Mal]

I, I got right to it. So you that said, them kidney beans on that stove. What's your favorite sex?

[Rory]

You said, hey, how you doing? She said, good. He said, do a squirt.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah. He went right to it.

[Julian]

Show me your toes.

[Mal]

Get naked.

[Julian]

How do you make crazy.

[Rory]

How do you like your grits?

[Mal]

How do you like your grits? I like my grits naked.

[Rory]

That's nasty.

[Julian]

But if you have a manager, they'd be the ones responding to comments. You literally would just have to be the person filming and that's it. You wouldn't even have to deal with.

[Rory]

No, we wouldn't judge you on only fans. If Julian was your manager and he was replying to all the men in the DMs, that's really who he'd be judging.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

How would you get in your bag as Demaris on the replies?

[Julian]

We're not going to play the scenario out. That's not gonna happen. Yomi probably would.

[Rory]

I think Peach would probably be the best.

[Julian]

Peach would smoke that because that's him. The people subscribing are the him. So who knows him better than.

[Rory]

Are they putting that on? Why would you put that on Peach?

[Julian]

Not like him personally. I'm saying people like Peach.

[Rory]

Stop.

[Damaris]

It's still. You're still being shitty.

[Mal]

Stop.

[Rory]

Like the way Chris DiStefano made the aura of who Peach is. Even if it wasn't him.

[Mal]

Peaches. Yeah, right there.

[Rory]

Peaches would be a good manager. Not Peach.

[Damaris]

But yeah, I do want to manage only fans. So if anybody wants to start out only fans. You don't know how to get started. You don't think that you would have good marketing? I am offering free services for the first month.

[Rory]

Tamaras. Our listeners would leak your only fans videos first day.

[Damaris]

Not my own.

[Rory]

I wanna, I know that.

[Damaris]

Manage other people's only fans.

[Mal]

The marriage is only gonna be on there. Putting oil on her feet. Everybody gonna leak. Who gonna leak that?

[Rory]

I'm saying if she went for it, I would never.

[Damaris]

It's not, it's not my personality. I would never do it. But I do want to manage somebody else's, so.

[Mal]

But if Baby D made it Wink.

[Rory]

We shouldn't be having these conversations.

[Mal]

What Baby dad look like diddies.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, yeah, it's reading that on paper. Like, not in context with his tone. Like, if that was just in a courtroom, just on paper. And then he said, baby, D, make it wink.

[Mal]

But thank God we have it on camera. Recording it. The context. Like, what we talking about.

[Rory]

N. But depending what state, maybe we couldn't use that evidence.

[Mal]

Maybe it would just be the read somebody.

[Damaris]

They made ball read that out loud. Understand?

[Mal]

See, that's the difference. I going court and bl. I said that. But do y'all know how I said it? I ain't say it like that. I know it sound crazy, but, like, I said it in the context of a whole conversation. I didn't hit her like, on the side, like, yo, you making it wink. Like, that's crazy. I said it on camera like, yo, your only fans would you make.

[Rory]

And then now they bring the expert, like, up on the stand, too. Of like, trying to explain exactly what. So Megan Wink would be having her vagina go up and then down as if it was winking like an owl.

[Damaris]

It would be a kegel.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

A whispering eye.

[Mal]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Make it wink. Make the butthole wink. That's all. It's all good. We got another one.

[Rory]

Do we have another voicemail?

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. Shout out to her.

[Rory]

Yeah, get out of that situation. Keep dating.

[Mal]

She can't.

[Julian]

She called. She called to have us bully her about this. Get out.

[Rory]

She's involved in a crime, right?

[Mal]

Yeah, she's in a. She locked into a 360 with that. Yo, what's up with it? Big fan of the pod. My name's Mig. I'm from Ohio. And I'm just gonna get straight to it. Last night I was out having a couple drinks with the homies. The spot we was at was dead. So we ended up leaving it like midnight. As I was driving home, I pulled up to this lock light, an Escalade.

[Rory]

Full of pull up.

[Mal]

They bump. And Glorilla, they turned up all this. They see me, I see them. They acknowledge me. They like, hey, what's up with it? And the girl in the passenger seat, she like, oh, you cute. And, you know, giving off good energy. So I'm like, damn, where y'all going? They tell me the little spot that they going to. I'm like, I'll pull up. I'll see y'all there. I pull up to the spot. They walk into the spot.

[Julian]

I see.

[Mal]

See him. I walk up to the girl that was in the passenger seat that was giving me the Good energy. I'm like, hey, you know, you're the only reason I'm in here tonight. She immediately responds with this stank attitude.

[Damaris]

Like, so I guess that mean you.

[Mal]

Buying drinks, all the drinks for me and my friends during the night. And I'm like, oh, damn. Like, straight like that. Where this energy come from? She's like, what you mean you met.

[Rory]

Her at a red light?

[Mal]

I'm like, just why are you acting like that? She like, oh, I ain't acting like nothing. Is you gonna buy the drinks or what? I said, listen, baby, you enjoy your night. And I walked off to continue enjoying mine, which included buying drinks for other women. And I just want to know, was I petty for that or was she just out of pocket?

[Damaris]

Julian, why you picked this voicemail?

[Julian]

Why not?

[Mal]

She played that a little wrong. She could have went about that a little different. Because you can get a guy to buy a round of drinks for you and your girls if the approach is right.

[Rory]

They met at a red light.

[Mal]

I've met women at red lights. I've met women in.

[Rory]

How should she have acted?

[Mal]

No, I mean, you just gotta be a little cooler than that. Are you buying drinks for like. Like, what? If you would have. Like, all right, y'all fucking.

[Rory]

Well, you shouldn't say that.

[Mal]

She shouldn't have said that.

[Rory]

I agree. But he shouldn't have any expectations of the woman that he met at a red light that said, come to the club?

[Mal]

No, I don't think he had expectations. I just think he felt like that.

[Rory]

Was a little like, women that do that are corny.

[Mal]

But, yeah, that's. I don't think he was. Had any expectation. I just think he felt like that approach was a little, like, damn.

[Damaris]

Like, I wonder if he ugly.

[Mal]

I mean, she. He said that. She said he was cute. That could have been just bait for trying to get a nigga to come by.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering if he ugly, cuz. If he was cute, he might have got a different response. I'm not calling you ugly. Smig shout out to you. I was just wondering.

[Rory]

It could be like, those girls that stand on south beach and, like, try to fake get guys going to the club. Oh, yeah, they're promoters, but they're not. They're like. They're like undercover agents that are promoters.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, meet us here. And they'd be like, yeah, so they just need your card.

[Rory]

Then all of a sudden they're at the host stand and you're like, yo, how did that happen?

[Mal]

Nobody need my car.

[Rory]

I thought she liked me.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, no, they don't need my. My card, shorty. Like, no, I'm cool.

[Rory]

It could have been one of those situations.

[Damaris]

I just feel like this is extremely obvious. Yes, she was rude. Yes, she was entitled. And no, you should. If. If you don't find that type of thing attractive, then no, you weren't wrong for not buying her drinks. Some men like. Like that. You run it. There's a whole community of men.

[Rory]

It's called a trick.

[Damaris]

Yeah, there's a whole community of men that would have been like, yeah, I'll buy you whatever you want.

[Rory]

There's years and years of songs about them.

[Mal]

What asking for drinks?

[Julian]

Not like just the.

[Mal]

The entitlement.

[Julian]

The entitlement? Yeah, like I'm. I'm willing to buy. We'll do it, but like, don't. It's the like rash assumption and like anger.

[Mal]

It's the. Y'all you buying drinks. If not get away from the.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's not the entitlement, it's like the. Yeah, it's the. Why are you so like, angry?

[Rory]

I mean, my. My energy with that is always. Well, I was about to, but now I'm not.

[Julian]

And now I'm not. Exactly. That's.

[Rory]

I would have happily, without even you asking, would have, but even for your.

[Julian]

Friends, had you not jumped out like that.

[Mal]

I. Let me get seven Fijis.

[Rory]

Those are more expensive.

[Julian]

More expensive than tequila.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

To. To the ladies listening who might not know how to finesse men out of their money. You.

[Julian]

You.

[Damaris]

She should have just went into the club and when he tried to talk to her, give him no rhythm until a drink is placed in your hand. If you're that thirsty, if you that thirsty of a. You don't feel like buying your own drinks, then you should have just had nothing to say to him until the drink was in your hand.

[Mal]

I hate him.

[Julian]

Bum, show them your whispering eye.

[Rory]

But to me it's even weirder that like now you going to give him rhythm cuz he bought a drink cuz.

[Julian]

You got some tequila?

[Damaris]

No, it's not even a. It's not even.

[Rory]

If a man can't identify that, then he deserves to be. Deserves to be the trick.

[Damaris]

No, she. No, she's a bum. No matter what I'm saying how to be a more successful bum so that you're not getting caught so that you can finesse. Don't be just a regular bum.

[Rory]

Fall for that. I don't have any sympathy. Like you should have been Finessed. If you didn't pen. Peep that. Yeah, if you didn't peep that play. I'm worried for you in the real world, if you. If you didn't. That girl was giving you no rhythm, then you bought her a drink, and now she has time to, like, flirt with you.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

And she also. You just like. How can I explain it? You just. I don't know. You could tell when ain't used to shit. Why are you asking? If a. By when I go in and there's a. Attempting to talk to. To me, I'm assuming that my tab is on him. Not even on some. Like, I don't have it. I'm paying my own, of course. But if a man is really sitting up here in my face trying to get to know me, I'm automatically going to assume that you're going to buy me a drink. I'm not even sitting up there asking, oh, can you buy me a drink? That's an assumption that you're buying me a drink. Especially with how they the type of people that I'm going to date. So. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, you're not used to shit. If you like, oh, are you buying my drinks? You ain't used to shit.

[Rory]

Also, how much of a bummer are you that you can't afford a drink in class?

[Julian]

Cleveland, it's like, what, $6?

[Damaris]

All right, hold on. Cleveland is not like. Isn't Cleveland like a major city? I mean, it's not New York.

[Rory]

I'm not on Cleveland. I'm just saying the prices in Cleveland are drastically lower than most cities.

[Julian]

$25 for a round of drinks. I think Cleveland's probably, what, 15 for a round of drinks?

[Mal]

And everybody know that. If you can't go to Bella Noches, where.

[Rory]

Where could you go?

[Mal]

Where can you go?

[Julian]

Yeah, I think to Damaris's Point, like.

[Rory]

A bumbitch begging me to buy her a drink in Cleveland. It's not a girl I need.

[Julian]

Circumstantially, how they met, I think it was the assumption is that they met at a red light. So then they went to the club together. It's not like he walked up to her in the club and was trying to hit on her. Like, they met. They. They went to the function.

[Rory]

Yeah, like, I'm together.

[Damaris]

You just.

[Rory]

She said, meet me there if you want.

[Damaris]

You just came up to me and.

[Mal]

Said, you know, the only reason I want to meet you there.

[Damaris]

He literally said, you know, the only reason why I'm here is because of you, right?

[Julian]

Boom.

[Damaris]

He set himself up for that. Now, granted, she's a bum and the way that she handled it was awful, but you here to see me, so that comes with the territory of we're now in this club together.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

She should have responded with, and I'm only standing here because I'm waiting for you to buy me a drink.

[Rory]

That would have been cute.

[Mal]

I'd have been like, get this bitch whatever she want. It's on tonight.

[Damaris]

It's on tonight.

[Mal]

It's on.

[Rory]

I don't know. She could be used to, like, the Paul brothers tricking out out there.

[Julian]

They live in Puerto Rico.

[Rory]

Cleveland has some. Some rich people.

[Damaris]

Cleveland definitely got some rich people.

[Rory]

Oh, man. Imagine being rich and living in Cleveland, Ohio.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God, bro.

[Mal]

Sounds like a nightmare.

[Julian]

Imagine living would own the town.

[Mal]

Sounds like a nightmare. But, yeah, I don't know. He. She played that. She played that a little wrong.

[Damaris]

But to answer your question, you were not an.

[Mal]

You wasn't wrong.

[Damaris]

She was being rude and entitled and you're not opposite. Obligated to buy anybody, but to the women, just please have better finesse. Y'all embarrassing.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

[Rory]

Well, this is good. Good return episode. Thank you for everyone. That. That was kind about us missing the last episode, which wasn't a lot of you. A lot of you guys were really dicks about it, but everybody.

[Damaris]

I was a dick.

[Rory]

Other than that, this was fun. Get on the Patreon.

[Damaris]

I got a story to tell you.

[Rory]

Oh, and happy for of July.

[Julian]

They were in my comments saying, pod from the wedding. I was like, man, shut up.

[Damaris]

No, I saw you. I saw your girl. I took mushroom chocolate. I saw your girl in concert.

[Mal]

Oh, I heard about that.

[Julian]

I heard you got hit in the head with a pretzel.

[Mal]

Who?

[Damaris]

Coy Laray. I went and saw Coy Lark, Tink, Keanu, Laday.

[Mal]

They on tour together.

[Damaris]

They're all on tour together.

[Mal]

That sound like a nice little line for sure. I seen some. Some. Some clips from the Janae show. She seemed.

[Rory]

She looked.

[Mal]

She got a good stage face at. Oh, the production looks great.

[Damaris]

Let me. I'm gonna tell you my mushroom trip on. On Patreon.

[Mal]

Oh, you took shrooms at the show?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Rory]

Sounds like a good night.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right, so let's talk about that and let's. Let's laugh at the debate because we didn't. We didn't talk about the debate since it happened.

[Rory]

Would love to.

[Mal]

One of the greatest nights in TV history.

[Rory]

It was up There.

[Julian]

We can also talk about Sizza doing splits with Simone Biles.

[Rory]

Watch that.

[Julian]

I watched that a few times.

[Mal]

She says bendy. She's flexible.

[Julian]

Oh, very.

[Damaris]

She was a gym, like, so she, like, looked like.

[Mal]

Now we know where her name come from.

[Rory]

A lot of people under those comments saying Sizzle might not be lying. She's just lived this many lives. No, she was up there doing everything. Simone was doing everything.

[Mal]

Simone.

[Julian]

Yo, they did that.

[Rory]

I mean, they didn't go. They didn't go crazy.

[Mal]

If you show me Scissor doing a triple X. No landing that.

[Rory]

Figure skating.

[Mal]

Yeah, but whatever, whatever. If she's on the ring. If she's on the. The Jada can shift at the bars.

[Rory]

And y'all didn't believe me.

[Mal]

You're not. But if. If Scissor get up there and do the balls of Simone B. That's crazy.

[Rory]

N. She was. Sizzle was showing out.

[Julian]

We'll talk about Anthony Edwards. Might have gotten Zion off the hook. When we can get into that. Oh, well, Anthony Edwards, he might be worse.

[Rory]

That 44 year old from Oakland needs to have a full conversation with Anthony Edwards.

[Mal]

Yeah, man, Ant needs somebody in his ear. I'm scared for him already. We'll talk to y'all soon. Rest in peace. Upscale crack. New York City legend. Rest in peace. Chef Jamal. James Kent, New York City legend. Everybody be safe, be blessed. Happy holidays, and we'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. We headed to Patreon.