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Rory
Philadelphia, July 25th. City Winery. We will be there live. New Rory Mall. The campaign. You guys can decide. And it makes sense going to Philly first. Yeah, they were the first city. They popped this entire thing off. So it only makes sense that we start the campaign, AKA our live show in the City of Brotherly Love.
Mal
Tickets available at newrorynmall.com Merch will be available at the show. Hope to see y'all there.
Rory
You know, I ran in the Penn Release three times. Yeah, yeah, it's a fact.
Mal
What place did you finish?
Rory
I mean, we were there.
Mal
Tough beat, no worry. Hey, somebody whiter than my socks.
Julian
I.
Damaris
Me the hook rubbing on my chain. Blowing cloud magic. Smoke something with a G and bend that ass backwards.
Mal
Lay back, relax and talk mathematics. Later on, we tend. I didn't had a minute. Sweaty nights.
Damaris
Even when I'm working out, the only place I really.
Mal
I had many sweaty nights.
Damaris
My scalp and my sweaty man.
Mal
I ain't a sweaty man, but I didn't had many a sweaty night.
Julian
My back on the walk here was dripping wet.
Mal
How you feel about yourself?
Julian
Let's try it off now. Jerseys are not breathable.
Rory
I've noticed since I've turned 34, that's, like, the one thing I've really noticed. I sweat way more than I used to.
Mal
I sweat so much. Like, I really thought somebody threw a bucket of water on me. When I. I'm talking about, like, the sheets was soaking wet.
Damaris
You was having a nightmare.
Julian
That's happening to me lately.
Mal
I just, like, I get in these. I get in these sweats where it's just like. I don't even know. Cause I like to sleep with the room cold, but I need a blanket on top of me.
Julian
So, like, the room will be cold.
Mal
Room will be cold. But I got a blanket. But then that blanket, you know, overnight, like, your body, like, heats up, you under a blanket. By the time I wake up in the morning, I'm talking about the sheets are soaked.
Rory
You don't know.
Mal
It's crazy.
Rory
Comforter, ac balance. You got to, like, just leave one leg out. I do collect some of the air.
Mal
That's.
Rory
Bring it back under the comforter.
Mal
That's my. That's my move. I do all of that. Yeah, I do all of that. But then there's a. There's a window where you fall asleep and don't move for, like, four or five hours.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Where you just, like a baked potato under there. You just cooking. And by the time I wake up, everything's soaking.
Julian
Do you roll around in your sleep, are you guys. Like, just once you find a spot, you get it.
Mal
Still sleeper. I sleep pretty still if I'm comfortable. Like, if I'm at somebody house and they sheets stink and it's like, I.
Rory
Don'T know, why are you at someone else that sheets stink?
Mal
Nah. Cause you know how sometimes you might spend a night at somebody crib and you like, damn, like, this is it. Yeah. Like, I mean, I'm not doing that no more. I go home no matter what time it is now. But I'm just saying, you never spent the night at a girl house for sure. And it's like, sheets kind of stink a little bit. Baby father might still have a spare. This nigga might pop up. So you don't really sleep. Yeah.
Rory
And yet you rest. She lives in the building where the washing machine stinks.
Mal
Yeah, exactly.
Rory
Because cleaning my clothes makes it stink.
Mal
It's like you got all that wet. You sleep, but you not sleep. Yeah, but I need to. I need to. That's why I sleep in my own crib. Cause I got to get, like, I got a shower. I sleep naked. It got to be a certain temperature. Like, it's.
Rory
I don't know if it's because I'm older or. This has been one of the hottest summers that I can remember, but I almost walked out with, like, a wet rag today. Like, just to keep on my fork. Like, I know that's how much I've been sweating lately.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Yeah. Is it an age thing? It's been extra human?
Julian
I don't know. The older I've been getting, the more I've been sweating.
Damaris
I've sweat more now that I'm older.
Julian
I would look into getting that. What do they call that Botox shit where it clogs your pores.
Mal
Clogs your pores.
Rory
I feel like that's not healthy, but it's like, it's.
Julian
It's like a thing.
Rory
They do that in the steam rooms, huh?
Damaris
No, they have like, a Botox shot that you can get underneath your underarms to stop your sweat glands from producing.
Mal
I don't think you should ever stop your sweat gland.
Julian
That just sounds. Hyper hydrosis.
Rory
Very important part of your life.
Julian
Yeah, but it's just like a localized shot. I wouldn't do it anywhere else, but it's. It's pretty common.
Mal
You wouldn't get Botox in your face?
Julian
Hell, no.
Damaris
No, I can't wait.
Julian
Hell, wait for what?
Damaris
One more like, frustrating age limit. Like, I mean, like, I'm gonna start. I'm not aging gracefully. I'm getting Botox in the forehead. I'm getting the face lift pulled tightly, like.
Julian
Really?
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
You want to look like one of those people. You want.
Julian
You really want to look like.
Mal
You're so young to be talking like that, though. Like, I know.
Damaris
That's why I said, I can't wait. When I get older, I'm going to.
Mal
Get forward to getting your face pulled.
Damaris
Back because I started noticing. I started noticing. Like crows put the skin in the ponytail.
Julian
Scalping. Yeah.
Mal
I've never heard somebody say, I can't wait to get both box.
Julian
Now the thing.
Rory
Now I can't wait to get chemo.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
What are you talking about?
Damaris
That's completely different.
Mal
I can't wait to get.
Damaris
The body will always be natural, but the face.
Julian
But now the thing.
Mal
You'll never get no work done on your body.
Damaris
After I pop my kids out, I'm gonna get my boobs done, but that's it.
Mal
Yeah, that don't really count.
Rory
What's that? A mommy tuck? What do they call that?
Damaris
Mommy makeover. Is the tummy tuck with the. With the Lipo360 Lipo.
Julian
You know the husband stitch that they do after women give vaginal birth?
Mal
What is that?
Julian
It's called the husband stitch, where they. They like, stitch it up a little more so it's tight again.
Mal
Oh, the vagina.
Rory
Oh, you gotta slap some vinegar on that.
Damaris
Damn you old.
Mal
Old.
Damaris
The tightest vagina I've ever felt came from a woman who had a big head. Baby.
Mal
I think that women know better than to just slap you.
Rory
Throw some vinegar on it.
Mal
Put some in a little cap full in the bathtub, soaking that little, you.
Rory
Know, I mean, tighten it right up.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Please don't put vinegar in y'all.
Rory
Please.
Mal
Jesus. Put some in the tub. Just put a little bit in the tub.
Julian
Something and look down and just hurt.
Mal
Yeah. That's all. Yeah.
Rory
Snap that back.
Mal
The husband. The husband stitch.
Julian
The husband's. It's. It's. Apparently it's a. It's not. It's a harmful thing because obviously you're pretty much reshaping very painful. The vagina.
Damaris
When women give birth, sometimes they rip. And when they're stitching them, stitching the peritoneum back up, they'll put an extra stitch in perennium.
Mal
Oh, got you.
Julian
Isn't that crazy? Imagine that. Imagine if we had to get our dicks, like, sewed up or something. It's like.
Mal
I've never imagined that, Julian.
Rory
It's never really crossed my. My Mind.
Julian
Well, technically we have. If you. If you snipped. We've had.
Rory
That's true.
Julian
Yeah. Scissors down there.
Mal
Yeah. But I was like. I had no say it.
Julian
They gave it a shape up.
Rory
Think about that.
Mal
They violated me and I have no say.
Rory
I don't remember any of it, but I feel like it was a traumatic experience.
Mal
Cool. Whatever. Ball.
Damaris
Are you going to circumcise your son? I thought about not doing it. I've considered not doing it.
Mal
What? I don't know.
Damaris
Because I think that foreskin is there for a reason.
Rory
For protection. Yeah.
Damaris
Your sweat glands are there for a reason.
Rory
Yeah. But you get rid of pubic hair and that's there for a reason.
Damaris
Yeah, but I make that decision to get rid of pubic hair. My parents don't. Didn't make that decision for me when I was unable to complain about it because it still hurts. The babies. They're just unable to complain about it.
Julian
They're already crying. Just cut the shit off.
Rory
Do they do it? They don't do it right away, do they?
Julian
Yeah, three days.
Damaris
Like three days.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
I do that right when I come out.
Damaris
No, that's magic.
Rory
Don't bake for three days.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Traumatic. You don't have memories until you're like five. Anyway.
Damaris
It's traumatic in the moment. Just because you don't remember it doesn't make it not traumatic. You've been some through some trauma, you just don't remember. That's why you act like that.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
That's why your hair looks like that.
Julian
What's wrong with my hair?
Mal
I didn't say nothing.
Rory
I'm just saying the fact that that was his response. I know he's been through trauma. What's wrong with my hair?
Mal
Yo, I ain't gonna lie. I took two gummies this morning. I haven't felt my feet since 9:30. Yo, I haven't got them all today. I took two gummies this Morning. I woke up like, went to the gym, showered. I was like, let me pop two gummies, bro. I haven't felt my feet since probably 9:45.
Damaris
You took the mood ones?
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I need that gummy then.
Damaris
I only take like half of them every day. I take half of a mood gummy every day.
Mal
I feel like I could walk with these Joe Fresh goods on and them two edibles. I could walk to Boston right now.
Rory
Right to Montreal.
Mal
Yeah. Good playlist. Good playlist. Shout out to our playlist. Subscribe to our Patreon now. New RAM Radio available.
Rory
Yeah. Good plug, Good plug.
Mal
No, I'M just saying, you know, listen to the RAM radio and walk to Boston. I ain't gonna. That's the ad, yo.
Rory
Listen, there's enough RAM radios there for you to walk.
Mal
I think all of us need to micro dose.
Rory
I'm with you.
Damaris
I agree.
Mal
I think. I think just weed.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
Like thc, you know, I wouldn't. I mean, maybe shrooms. Microdose shrooms too. But I think we should. I think humans need to microdose. I think all humans should microdose.
Julian
I think experiencing an altered state of mind is extremely important, and I think most people should. If that's what you're saying, then, yeah, I'm on board with that.
Mal
Because I'm thinking, like, what if I had to work in a workplace right now that was like the prototypical cubicles and I had to deal with so many different people and emotions, Nobody could piss me off right now.
Damaris
You want me to try?
Rory
I really, really like the Not Like Us video.
Mal
Nobody can piss me off. Great video.
Rory
It's probably the best. I think Not Like Us video might be the best video that's ever existed.
Mal
If that's how you.
Rory
If that's Missy and Busta could never.
Mal
If that's what it spoke to you, my brother, then have at it.
Julian
I was always awful at the water cooler talk. Speaking of, like, being in an office at the label, because most of my time at Atlantic was done at home. So when we were back in the office, I had to like small talk for the first time. And it was. It was. I was so bad at it. I can't do it.
Mal
You ain't microdose.
Julian
I can't do it.
Rory
Yeah, I did. Sunday, I went to my man Rich's birthday party, and I had not seen a lot of people in years. It was like a reunion of the past 15 years.
Damaris
Shout out to Rich.
Rory
So much bad small talk on my behalf.
Damaris
Oof.
Rory
Since you went up to. She's working kid. You know, work father crazy.
Mal
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all you got?
Rory
That's all I got.
Mal
That's all you got. And that's okay. That's what. That's what we don't understand about each other. Like, sometimes it's okay to recognize, like, yo, that's all he got, man. He's dad now. Like, yo, listen, man. He just happy to be outside for a change. That's it.
Rory
Yeah. And then I'll just find it's the real. Because with them, I don't need a small talk. I'll just be sarcastic.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
And yeah, Just hide behind those tall guys and talk about the locks.
Julian
Ew.
Damaris
Look at the real talk. You want to have, like, people asking about your kid, but nah, the locks.
Rory
Yeah. No, I want some of that kiss verse. I did. I had a nice, like, relaxing. I didn't do any Fourth of July. I needed a relaxing weekend. And I did the gym Friday through Sunday.
Damaris
Hey.
Rory
And I had my head on a swivel based off the things you guys told me about the steam room. I walked into the steam room. You did it clenching. I clenched as I walked in. Yeah, like, just. Just like this.
Julian
Put a lockbox on it.
Rory
Yeah. I was scared, Chastity. I could not pause, get you guys out of my head while I was trying to try to have a nice.
Julian
Thing about us in the steam room is crazy.
Rory
And then I was curious if I was giving off any vibes or, like, doing any signs that I didn't mean to. Like, if wiping off sweat actually means, yo, let's go.
Mal
It's like baseball signals.
Rory
Yes.
Julian
You gotta sit on your hands.
Mal
Sit on your hands. What?
Rory
I almost went in there, like, with phone books taped around me.
Mal
That's how it sounds like he was on the yard.
Rory
I was so scared.
Julian
You have a steam room. All this time I've been talking about wanting to go steam, and you just now tell us, bro.
Rory
You think I was going to call you to come steam over? Over 4th of July weekend?
Mal
Want to go steam? It's 94 degrees outside. Go down on the subway platform.
Julian
Stand on Canal.
Mal
Yeah. Stand on Canal street, down in the subway for 30 minutes. That's all the steam you need.
Rory
Five minutes.
Mal
Yeah. It's crazy.
Rory
Countdown the minutes.
Mal
Why haven't we. Why haven't the New York City subway system. Why haven't we developed to the point where we have air conditioners on the platforms?
Julian
Oh, on the platform. I don't know.
Mal
We. Trust me. We are trust me. I ordered a $10 burger on Uber east the other night. Additional fees and taxes got me out.
Julian
To $35 for a vegan burger.
Mal
I said, yo, how is taxes and other fees? What is other fees?
Rory
Paying $35 for Black Joe Biden said he was going to take down Ticketmaster.
Mal
Take some of them other fees y'all taking, and. And put some ACs down in the subway, man.
Damaris
Well, that's Uber Eats is taking them fees, not just the taxes. Uber Eats. That's Uber Eats fee. You don't Instacart fucking won't. The reason why Instacart doesn't put your Receipt in the bag is because they're up charging the fuck out of you for that food, and they don't want you to see what your real total was.
Mal
You don't read the receipt when you check out? No, I still. If I go out to dinner right now, I'm still reading the receipt.
Damaris
No, I read the receipt. What I'm saying is the receipt when I check out will not match the receipt when the Uber eats. I mean, when the instacart driver at the grocery store checks out.
Julian
Oh, I see.
Damaris
There'll be a difference because they're paying the regular grocery store prices and I'm paying instacart prices.
Mal
All Uber eats is. Is go to the store for me. Yeah, Remember niggas used to tell you, go to the store for me. That's all Uber eats is. And then you let the nigga keep the change.
Julian
Keep the change?
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
It's a little different than keeping the change now.
Mal
No, now we're hoping to keep. I'm keeping the change and you gonna pay me $20 on top of that.
Rory
I don't look at the receipts at the grocery store anymore. Cause I still steal. Like, I still steal How?
Julian
Why not?
Mal
Yeah, like self checkout.
Rory
Have you been to Food Emporium lately?
Mal
Like, self checkout?
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Oh, yeah. Self checkout is catch me if you can. That's all that is.
Damaris
I got a homegirl that was stealing from Whole Foods right in front of the camera, terrifying me. I said, I can't do it.
Rory
Whole Foods, they gotta chase me.
Mal
Yo, you getting chased and avocados falling out your back. Yo, imagine you just see Rory running. You be like, yo, where he going? Groceries. All the way up the block.
Rory
I was. As kids, we used to steal, like, too much. I'm actually kind of embarrassed. The lengths we would go. We used to wear the Adidas swishy pants like that. The elastic.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
And we would cut. Cut the pockets out of them and just drop. Yeah, we used to take razors to the CD store and cut out the CDs and just put them in our hoodies.
Mal
Yeah, that's.
Rory
That's like, why was I stealing CDs, man? Like Napster.
Mal
That's what you're supposed to do, though. You're supposed to steal CDs, I guess. Yeah, that was.
Julian
That was part of growing up, college life, for sure.
Mal
Stealing is part of, like, the rite of passage. You got to steal something to just feel that adrenaline rush. And then, like, hopefully you don't, you know, take it, too. Because I knew when to stop. Like, I knew that time my uncle took me, we went to the store and he was trying to buy a grill. Don't ask me why. I think this is when, like, electric grills first was like, popping.
Rory
You're wheeling out a fucking grill, yo.
Mal
We trying to buy electric grill. This was the electric grill. I'll never forget this shit. We standing there. My uncle hands the person the credit card, right? So she scans whatever. I guess it said contact bank or whatever. But I'm young, I'm stupid, I'm naive. I don't know. I don't know this game yet. And she picks up the phone and calls, and it's the bank. I guess so. Then the lady was like, yo, they wanna talk to you. They handed the phone to my uncle. My uncle was like, hello? He's like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right. Thank you. And hung up. And he was like, yo, come on, let's go. Now, I'm young. I don't know this game, the credit card game yet. I'm like, all right, whatever. But then I look, I'm like, why we not taking the grill, right? So I'm thinking like, damn, he ain't got no money. But we start. He start pulling me, we end up running out the store. So I'm like, yo, what we running for? The car was. My uncle had a stolen credit card. But when he called the bank, they started asking him like, yo, how did you get this card? What's your name? And he just spun him, like, yeah, yeah, all right, cool. Yeah. And hung up. But I didn't know that game. I just thought, like, he was. The car didn't work. He didn't have no money. I'm like, why you got me with you on this mission, though? Like, as I get older, I'm like, yo, but why you took me on that dummy mission with you?
Rory
Somebody got to teach you that's part.
Mal
Of the right of path. You got to feel that adrenaline running out the store and you not knowing if you could run the security guard over or not. You gotta feel that at one point in your childhood.
Damaris
And you gotta. It's easier to take when you have a younger kid with you, you look more innocent. Like, nobody would think, damn, he in here with a stolen credit card and his son. Like, nobody would think that.
Julian
I think that more as soon as I see a kid, especially after living here.
Mal
Yeah, like, that ain't his baby.
Julian
Greatest hustle is the. The mother with the kid on the train.
Mal
Oh, yeah.
Julian
So that's a undefeated duo Oh, I.
Rory
Mean, currently, right now with Amara's stroller, there's like a bottom part, and I'll put groceries under there and then just forget that. Them shits was like, I'll pay for some stuff. Yeah, but, like, I forgot all the stuff was under the stroller.
Mal
But as a white man in America, that's your duty. That's your. You can do that. They. They supposed to just let you have that on the house? Me? They gonna tackle me, shoot me for all the whites.
Rory
It's on the house.
Mal
Yeah, it's on the house, man. It's on the house. This is your country. Don't worry about it.
Rory
When we were allegedly pledging because Kappa Sign Fraternity Incorporated is a non hazing organization, you had to have boots, right? So seven of us walked into Walmart and put on these big ass combat boots and just ran out of Walmart with the boots on.
Mal
Y'all put. That was one of them.
Rory
All of us walked in, put the boots on, found our size, and then had our shoes in our hand and just dead sprinted out of Walmart.
Mal
All right.
Rory
Why is the caucus, New Jersey?
Mal
Was that, like, just for an adrenaline rush, like.
Rory
No, we didn't have any money.
Mal
Oh, okay. That was part of it.
Julian
Oh, no, no.
Rory
We just needed boots and none of us had any money.
Mal
Oh, I thought you meant, like, this was like a. Like a task.
Rory
No, the task was we had to have boots, but we didn't have any money.
Mal
Got you. Okay.
Rory
So we were like. I mean, listen, we put them, and the boots are like the back end of it, though. Like, we had to run through the store to get to the entrance and exit.
Mal
I always. I'm not gonna lie, I always admire people that, like, pledge fraternities and sororities.
Julian
Thank you, Mall.
Mal
Yeah, I think it takes a certain. Well, Lambda Lambda Lambda. All y'all had to do is fix the phone.
Julian
No, Cool. You can repeat you admire.
Rory
They do two keg stands they were in.
Mal
Yeah, yeah. Like, Julian got in. He was like, yo, you bought the blow. Cool. Lambda Lambda Lambda. Yo.
Damaris
Where'S the blow, man?
Mal
That's it. All Julie had to do was bring an eighth, and it was like, Lambda Lambda. They did lines and said, lambda.
Rory
When was the last time you guys saw the movie Animal House?
Mal
Huh?
Rory
When's the last time you guys saw the movie?
Mal
Oh, man, it's been years. But that's a classic.
Rory
If they had Animal House come out today.
Mal
Oh, no, no. It's a lot of movies that they. They couldn't put into production today.
Rory
That. That is about rape and fucking underage women.
Mal
It's crazy.
Rory
It's nuts.
Mal
When you look at a lot of movies and listen to a lot of music, like just over the time, like how the world has changed. It's crazy that we was really singing some songs and I'm like, did we know what we were saying back then? Cause there's no way we knew what we were saying. And people were just like, yeah, turn it up.
Damaris
Yeah, turn it up.
Rory
Like when Eminem said, just bend over and take it like a slut. Okay, Mom. Like that.
Mal
That's one of. That's one of them. Yeah, sure.
Rory
You know Michael Rubens, All White Party?
Mal
Yeah, sure.
Damaris
I was watching the Wood last. I was showing it to. So Alex's man had never seen it and he had never seen it before. And we were watching it and like watching it with. Trying to watch it with fresh eyes like you do with somebody who never saw it before. I'm like, this movie is. This movie couldn't come out today.
Mal
Why not?
Damaris
It would be on for the sexualization of children. The majority of it was them.
Rory
Euphoria is like the number one show in the world right now.
Mal
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you understand what's going on. You know what?
Damaris
You're right. But Euphoria.
Rory
Euphoria is worse than the Wood by far.
Damaris
They don't give me like kids. Euphoria just doesn't give me kid. And the would. They gave me kids even though they weren't kids. It's just like you're zooming in on like a 14 year old's ass and it's just like the whole thing. They're just talking about. You're right, actually. Euphoria.
Mal
Do you know what the number one song is about right now?
Damaris
The number one song?
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Well, that's like. That's a psa. That's anti. Oh, it's an awareness song.
Mal
Got you. Okay.
Rory
I thought nothing could piss you off today.
Mal
Yo, I still can't feel. I don't want.
Julian
I know we're gonna. I know we're gonna get to this.
Mal
I still can't film.
Julian
I know we're gonna get to the video, but I was in the Uber because in the city I really mostly take city bikes when I'm getting around, but a friend of mine wanted to Uber to this party we went to in Brooklyn, Pangea.
Rory
Take the city bike to the party.
Mal
Ride the city bike to a party.
Julian
I love it. It's great.
Damaris
So you were musty when you got There.
Julian
No, we Ubered. So I'm saying I would have biked, but my friend doesn't Citi bike, so we ubered in the Uber.
Rory
Friend doesn't city bike, so he's straight.
Damaris
All right, go ahead.
Julian
He works in fashion, so there's that. We. We ubered in the Uber. The not like us came on. Because, of course, if you're in a car for more than 20 minutes, that's going to come on. And at the end, we were, like, curious to hear the clean. Like, the radio edit, because I hadn't heard it yet. They really don't edit much out. Like, they don't bleep the word pedophile. They don't. At the end of the song when they said 69 God. They don't believe any of that.
Rory
And then they played Takashi 69 on the radio.
Julian
No, but, like, this is like, a different level. Like, they.
Rory
They hardly bleep 69 God.
Julian
You think should be not the 69 God. I'm trying to remember the.
Rory
The freaky part.
Julian
There's the part at the end.
Rory
I'm not going to tell you the part.
Julian
But, no, not that they bleep that, but they go freaky. They go.
Mal
They.
Julian
They go freaky ass. Keep pedophile 69. God. Like, they do that.
Mal
Yeah. Keep pedophile.
Julian
They keep. What do they keep? They keep the OV Ho. They don't edit that out.
Rory
They keep hoe on the radio.
Julian
OV Ho. Like the OV Ho chant. I don't know. I thought that was crazy.
Damaris
Yeah. Welcome to the new world order. They don't bleep anything. Everybody, they just bleep.
Julian
The only word they bleep.
Damaris
Everybody's gay.
Mal
How was the fourth for y'all? Nobody went nowhere.
Damaris
I went to Connecticut.
Mal
Connecticut, That's.
Rory
That's a good old American state, though.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I feel like I would enjoy Fourth of July in Connecticut.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Like, you.
Mal
If you're gonna go somewhere for the fourth of July, you got. It's Connecticut.
Damaris
Before the fourth of July, I was in Brooklyn, and that was Gotham. I was just telling all that shit.
Mal
Happy you made it out.
Damaris
Yo, the fireworks in the middle of the street with the rain with the Uber swerving around, the fireworks and the hood niggas, and Never again.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
As it was, I'm like, it's literally pouring, rainy. Y'all still out here doing fireworks? Yeah, never again.
Rory
Welcome to Flatbush.
Mal
I hate the fourth of July. I'm going to be honest.
Julian
It sucks.
Damaris
And then I went to some place called Cafe Or Zuli and shout out to them. But, like, y'all gotta tell me where the straight men hang out. I'm be single for the rest of my life. I don't see straight men when I go out anymore.
Mal
We're in the house.
Damaris
Everybody is gay.
Julian
Tell them the compliment you got.
Rory
Who scared what's funny, though? Because I went out Sunday during the day, and our friend, I'm not going to say her name, said the exact same thing that Tamara said. There's a lot of people at the spot we were in. And she was like, where are the.
Mal
Straight men in the house?
Rory
And I was like, well, we're in Hell's Kitchen, so you came to the wrong fucking neighborhood. Let's start there. Yeah, you're complaining about we're in a gay neighborhood. Yeah, we're the odd men out here.
Mal
I don't know if you noticed that or not.
Damaris
The odd bad bitches out. But I was in Brooklyn. I'm like, yo, when I'm in Brooklyn, Like, I miss when Brooklyn was dangerous. Like, it still is, I'm sure. But like, it ain't.
Mal
Oh, no. You get shot by don't get it twisted.
Rory
Omar attacks that ass for sure.
Mal
Don't get it twisted. Like, them gay. I know some gay niggas with felonies don't get it twisted. It's still dangerous out there. Don't think it's. It's. It's cool. Cause two men holding hands. Yeah, they just.
Rory
They just whistle before they shoot you.
Mal
Yeah, both of them it on him. Don't get it.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Don't get it twisted. It's still dangerous out there, baby.
Damaris
And this is not me being anti gay. I. I don't mind. Like, I don't care about being around gay people. It's not that I don't want to party with y'all. It's that, like, I would like, you.
Rory
Want men that want to you.
Damaris
Yes, it would be nice.
Rory
Like, I want to compliment.
Damaris
I was half naked, first of all. I haven't been half naked in like seven years. I was half naked. I went out.
Julian
Come on.
Mal
Half naked. I just saw you even pedri at me. I just saw you, Harry, over three episodes ago, he slept in this chair half naked.
Damaris
What I'm saying is I went outside in a bathing suit top in, like, low rise slack. Like, I was like. I was naked outside in slacks and.
Rory
Saying I was finally naked. It's crazy. What, do you work at State Farm on khakis?
Julian
You had slacks on.
Mal
You know, having slacks on and Saying you naked is wild.
Damaris
I'll send you the picture, Julian. But, yo, anyway, I was half naked, and I'm like, everybody just complimented my outfit. It was like, yes, fuck it up. Serving cut, like, yes, fuck it up.
Mal
Is that fucking it up? Slacks in a bikini top?
Damaris
Like, tell me, like, just wanted something.
Rory
Stop playing with a straight man and be like, can I fuck? Is that what you wanted?
Julian
You just wanted someone to.
Rory
I thought compliments from gay men were, like, the ultimate compliment.
Damaris
They are, they are.
Rory
But you want some sleazeball like me to be like, let me grab your ass.
Mal
Yeah, you wanted a straight man, like, a straight American man.
Rory
The party, I went Proud boy from New Orleans.
Julian
The party, I went to the Mac that I brought you to last year, where I took all the shrooms last year. And.
Rory
Oh, yeah, that was a fun party.
Julian
I was fun. That was. They do it, like, every year.
Mal
How was it?
Julian
It was really fun. It was too fucking hot.
Rory
Were you hosting or something? What was going on?
Julian
No. So they do, like. They do, like, a mic thing in the crowd. And then I had this whole plan. It was a really great idea, actually, but I am not a technologically sound guy, and none of them knew how to connect the wireless road mics, so we ended up scrapping that idea. Would have been fun.
Rory
So you're a camera guy.
Julian
The idea I had to, like, the party's called Pangea, and it's like global Afro Caribbean. Like, it's. They. They have a very eclectic, diverse audience. And I. This idea of bringing a map, like a world map. And I had. I bought stickers.
Rory
Yo, people just want to party, man.
Mal
Why are you trying to quiz people at a party?
Rory
They want to get drunk and dance.
Mal
Yeah, they want to get drunk. And why you up every vibe?
Damaris
You tried to up the wedding. You try to up pan.
Rory
You want to hear about the car accident you almost died in the happiest day of your life?
Damaris
What the buzzcap?
Mal
Bringing a map to a party. Get the out of here with you.
Rory
I don't know the fucking capital of South Carolina. Fuck out of my face.
Mal
I don't know. I don't know where we are on the map, sir. So.
Julian
Well, the point is, like, I would go up to someone with the mic and take out the map. The concept is, I have the map. They take a sticker, like, they put it where their family's from. So, like, origin story. My family's Jamaican. And then I was like, okay, like. And then you just quick follow question, like, what's the best Jamaican Food spot in New York City. And then whatever. Boom. And it'd be like. It'd be a TikTok, like, edited.
Damaris
Oh, you were content creator.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
Okay.
Julian
Really doing something. It wasn't just like. I wasn't harassing people with a map.
Mal
Got you. Okay.
Rory
Okay. So what would have happened if you landed on someone that was Israeli?
Julian
Well, I would edit. I cut that part of the map out.
Rory
No, they cut most of the map. Never mind.
Damaris
You know what?
Rory
Michael Rubin's White Party Mall. You were there.
Mal
I was sleep. I was not there. But yes. Michael Rubin's fourth of July all white party. He shows off his favorite blacks of the year, everybody. The who's who's and the what's, what's the who's who's. You know, the who's who's, the who's who's and the what's what's are there.
Rory
It's probably a fun party.
Mal
Yeah. I mean, it's definitely what you need music, right? Good music, probably good music.
Damaris
I know the food is brutal.
Mal
Pretty women. Pretty women, right. Got some pretty women there. You need some good drinks. Definitely some good drinks there. Good weather, right? Seems like it was a good night out.
Rory
Tide sticks, for sure.
Mal
Gotta have Tide sticks.
Julian
Yeah, that should be sponsored by Tide.
Rory
Should probably sponsor the one they should. Yo, you can have that one for free. Mr. Ruben.
Julian
Mr. Rubin.
Mal
Mr. Rubin.
Damaris
I'm sure he doesn't.
Rory
You can have that Tide idea for.
Damaris
Anything from you for free.
Rory
That's off the strength.
Mal
But, yeah, it looked like it was a fun time. A lot of people was talking about the fact that that Drake had popped out, because I don't think he's probably been seen publicly here. Yeah, I know. I know. He went on vacation after. Well, when the beef was like, you know, still beef. And I guess it still is.
Rory
When the beef was still beefing.
Mal
Yeah, that was like April.
Rory
Yeah. It was being sauteed.
Mal
Yeah. So now it's probably looks like him.
Julian
And Drew Ski were having a moment here.
Rory
Drew Ski just held him down.
Mal
Right.
Rory
Didn't Drew Ski tell some DJ to stop playing?
Damaris
Yeah, Drew Ski is actually really funny. He's never.
Rory
He's one of the few people that translated from Internet comedy to actually being hilarious in real life.
Damaris
He's really.
Rory
Drew Ski is very, very funny. I don't know. Was it that big of a deal that he was at Michael Rubin's?
Mal
Well, it's a big deal because it's.
Rory
All the people named in the last verse of Not Like Us were there.
Mal
Too What a video. The video dropped that day, right?
Julian
Yeah. Later that afternoon.
Rory
You know how awkward that must have been at Michael Rubin's party?
Julian
You know, they all want.
Rory
Because you want to watch the video.
Damaris
Oh, sneak into the bathroom to watch it.
Rory
There was definitely a watch party in. Michael Rubin has to have a huge.
Julian
Probably on the yacht. Like. Yeah. Just docked. Everyone's on there except Drake. And they just watched it.
Rory
Yeah. We got to use the bathroom.
Damaris
Somebody watching to make sure my friend.
Mal
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
Austin was holding the door. Drake, give us, like, 4 minutes and 32 seconds. You can clock it right now. Oh, that's the only reason I would have liked to be there. Just to see the tension of everyone wanting to watch that video but not wanting to, like, insult their friend because I wouldn't have the balls to watch the video in front of Drake or even at the party.
Julian
Was LeBron there? Because he was, you know, I think.
Rory
I think Bronnie did the toast.
Mal
No, LeBron. I don't think LeBron was there.
Julian
Did he not go this year?
Mal
I don't think there was no pictures of him. So.
Rory
Have you ever been to this party?
Mal
No. Okay. No. Never been to Michael Rubin's all white party? I probably been to one all white party my entire life.
Damaris
Really?
Julian
Yeah. This was.
Mal
I don't know. I never really understood that, like, theme.
Damaris
It's just Jamaican culture.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I think I did a Kappa cruise that was all white.
Mal
A cruise is the worst. Like, a bow party is the worst shit in the world.
Julian
I. I hate that concept.
Mal
Oh, my gosh.
Julian
Being stuck on a boat.
Mal
Going to party on a boat is the worst shit in the world.
Rory
Yeah. That's why you get people from palooza to break the ceiling so it docks right away.
Damaris
I literally left before I got on that boat. I just did not get. I'm so happy I didn't get on that boat.
Mal
It's the worst. It's the worst. First of all, bowl parties in New York is crazy.
Rory
Why? I think it's kind of beautiful to go, like, under the bridge and shit.
Mal
Because if.
Rory
Around the Statue of Liberty.
Mal
Because if I want to leave, you can.
Julian
Man, that sucks.
Mal
Like, I'm just. Now we just, like. Now we got to go up the Hudson one more time.
Rory
But why I like both parties is no matter. Even if it's sold out, there's always an area for you to go away from people.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
Like, you can kind of leave. Like, just go to the bow and mind your business.
Julian
I wanna go to the barracks.
Rory
Yeah. You want to go hang with the mom.
Damaris
Like, I want to go to the bed.
Mal
Yeah.
Julian
Taking a. On a boat, though, when the whole. The whole of environment is rocking. That's.
Mal
That's taking a. On a. At a boat party.
Julian
Well, like, you'd have.
Rory
Well, taking a party is hilarious.
Mal
Taking this at a party is crazy.
Julian
Like, but imagine if you're on a boat. Like, it's. Yeah. Like, I'm just picturing, like, there's food.
Rory
And imagine having the runs at the all white Michael Rubin party while the Not Like Us video is playing.
Damaris
That sounds like the Seventh Circle.
Mal
That's a lot.
Julian
It's like an episode of Curb Shout.
Mal
Out to Cash Cobain. Cash Cobain had a pool party. Somebody shit in the pool.
Rory
I saw that.
Mal
Wait, wait, Cash. Cash seem to be a little upset about that.
Rory
A little.
Mal
You can't take no. Like, why y'all in pools, man? Like, how.
Rory
I didn't think we needed to say that at the beginning of the party. Like, no one in the pool.
Mal
In the. But that's why I can't do.
Julian
Because it's like, that looks disgust. Not the shit, but just this party.
Rory
Oh, I know what that video is.
Julian
Everyone's in the water.
Rory
Oh, that's fun, though. They're young. That's what they're supposed to do.
Damaris
No matter how young I am, that will give me anxiety.
Mal
Where is the shit in the pool is craziness, man.
Rory
When I was this young, anxiety didn't exist, so I would have been fine.
Damaris
Really.
Rory
It's a new thing. No, I had anxiety. I just didn't know what it was.
Damaris
Oh, y'all.
Mal
Don't look back at some of the stuff y'all used to love doing and be like, yo, how did I ever enjoy doing that? Yeah, I don't know how I ever enjoyed going to a club and it being super packed. Like, that used to be the. Was crazy.
Rory
And it was a zoovie.
Julian
I love that word.
Rory
It was a zoovie.
Damaris
The fire.
Rory
I remember they used to promote parties when I was in college in Jersey during, like, the Jersey club era. Unwalkable was, like, the word.
Damaris
I remember that.
Rory
That was a thing, like, in all caps on Facebook. Like, it's unwalkable. And it's like, why would I want to go there? I want to. What if there's a fire?
Julian
Who at 22 is thinking about that, though?
Mal
Nobody.
Rory
Me with anxiety and didn't know what it was.
Damaris
I thought about if people started shooting. That's why I never, like, pack parties. If somebody starts shooting, I can't run or I can get trampled or. I never really liked packed parties like that.
Mal
It's crazy. The thought of going to a club and it being packed and me being in there, like, shoulder to shoulder with people, I don't know, is the craziest concept to me.
Rory
It's a Zubi, though.
Damaris
Did y'all. Oh, did y'all hear about Brooklyn Freaknik and the nigga that pulled out a gun and got caught on camera shooting up Prospect Park?
Rory
First of all, let's start with. I didn't know there was a freaknik.
Mal
Brooklyn Freaknik, like, Brooklyn has their own rendition of the.
Damaris
I don't. Not anymore. After that bullshit.
Julian
Oh, it was this past Saturday.
Mal
This was the first one.
Damaris
I don't. I don't know how often they've done.
Rory
It was doing yoga.
Julian
No, that's just white people.
Damaris
The video went viral of two guys fighting, and this one dude got, like, slept and, like. But as he was falling to the ground, like, he pulled out the Yanami and started shooting.
Mal
He pulled out.
Julian
That's impressive.
Damaris
Yeah, it is. It actually was pretty impressive the way it happened.
Rory
No one got hit, though.
Mal
Look.
Damaris
Boom.
Julian
He dodged it.
Rory
Not put this type of stuff. Sorry, podcast.
Damaris
It's not good.
Rory
Yeah, Yeah. I didn't know someone actually got hit. I don't want to see that.
Julian
No, he didn't.
Damaris
No, he didn't get hit. He dodged it.
Rory
Oh, damn. You should be with Angelina Jolie.
Julian
That was actually very impressive.
Rory
How did you get snuck on?
Damaris
Like, it was like a punch going on. First of all, it was impressive that he.
Rory
I'm glad everyone's safe.
Damaris
How do you fall and put you falling and pulling out the gun at the same time? Like, these are just.
Julian
Seems like anything with the word freak Nick attached to it. There's always something bad that happens.
Damaris
I'm good. And hopefully nobody got.
Julian
Yo, he dodged that. How?
Rory
Gotta stay on your toes.
Julian
He did.
Rory
Yeah. Maybe a jam.
Julian
Everybody runs around.
Mal
Did he shot it? Did he shoot or did he. Did they just see him pull it out and they started running?
Julian
I think you could hear him pop.
Rory
I look like it jammed.
Julian
Oh, I didn't hear anything.
Rory
Oh, yeah, because there was some kick. I think it just jammed.
Mal
Yeah, they. They definitely. He definitely dodged one right there because he didn't fire it. But see, that's why you can't just be hitting people. And some people are licensed to carry.
Julian
Not here.
Rory
Some people don't have a license to carry and still carry.
Mal
Well, yeah, that. He looked like he was licensed to carry, though, the way he Pulled that out.
Rory
Yeah. I could tell by his cargo shorts he has a license.
Mal
Yeah, that. Like that ensemble. He's definitely off duty detective 100, but.
Damaris
Yeah, luckily, nobody was hurt. But why are y'all. Why are y'all.
Rory
That's an NRA member.
Mal
He pays his membership fees. Okay, baby. Okay.
Julian
Nah, you're on trend with the. Where you, like, don't really do your pants Here, I got you.
Rory
I got you. Hey, nice slacks.
Damaris
Thank you. Thank you. Julian is pulling up the picture that I sent him when we were talking about when I went to Brooklyn.
Rory
No, you look good. And congrats. I know you've been in the gym. I know you've been eating healthy, so congrats.
Damaris
I have.
Rory
I think that's great.
Damaris
But, yeah, I look like that, there should be men offering to pay my bills and eat me. From the Rooter to the Tudor. Why are y'all complimenting my outfit? Outfit? And calling me a.
Rory
Isn'T a compliment in the gay community. Like, you so cunty. Like, isn't that, like, you're so pretty.
Mal
It was just one of those comp. You have to be gay to use.
Julian
That is such a great word.
Mal
Yo, do you know how crazy it is to call a woman a, though? Like, I could never do that. If I call a woman that, I'm. I'm out of here.
Rory
When the Beyonce Renaissance album came out and they was all mad because she, like, used the word, I was like, she was calling us C. No one was offended by that.
Mal
Yo, that's.
Rory
Oh, she said spaz. What about calling me a cunt? And she changed it, too, but left cunt.
Mal
Yeah, no, that's still there. Yeah, turn that up.
Rory
She said. She said we mad. Cunty hunty. I was like, what?
Mal
Insane.
Rory
Well, anyways, Michael Rubin's All White party.
Mal
Shout out to Michael Rubin's All White Party. Once again, everybody, the who's who, the what's. What's.
Rory
Do you think people get, like, at that party? Where do you go?
Mal
You mean? It's plenty of places.
Rory
Like, I don't. People. I don't think people stay at Michael Rubin's house.
Mal
No, no, no. There's plenty of people that are renting houses up there. Okay. In the Hamptons that week or that weekend.
Damaris
Yeah, I want to see the after. Who. Who threw the after party up in the Hamptons? That's what I want to see.
Rory
You know, Beyonce was definitely not letting HOV walk back to their Hamptons house with the hoes.
Damaris
Was. Were they there?
Julian
Jay Z was Jay Z?
Rory
Did A hit on.
Damaris
I didn't see B. I saw Jay.
Rory
He had, like, a walk. Walkathon.
Mal
Oh, yeah.
Damaris
He's in a walking club.
Rory
Walker Fella.
Julian
A walking club.
Damaris
Walker fella is so funny.
Mal
I would walk. I'm in Walker Fella, but I didn't even know that's what.
Rory
You can't feel your feet. You're not walking.
Mal
That's why I said I want to walk. The.
Damaris
I can't feel nothing I've ever heard in my life. But yeah. So Jay Z's in a walking club, which is what people in their 40s and 50s could be doing. Mall join one. You could walk to Boston.
Mal
Yo, I'm trying to tell you, I'm walking. Walking more than all these.
Rory
Mall. We can't. We can't avoid it.
Mal
What are we trying to avoid or not trying?
Rory
We. We made. We made jokes and talked about it, but we. We have to. How's it go?
Mal
Damn.
Damaris
You made it. Whack.
Mal
You made it.
Rory
Now I hate the number one song in the world. We have to talk about the Not Like Us video came out July 4th. Did. Did his Juneteenth show and then dropped the video on Independence Day where everybody in America was free on July 4th.
Julian
Everyone's equal.
Rory
1609. Yeah, that's an accurate date. I was in social studies during 9 11. Where do we want to begin? Let's start with a snippet at the top of the. The video. I assume that's a Pharrell beat. Can we all just safely say that's a Pharrell beat?
Julian
Sure.
Mal
I don't sound like a Pharrell beat to me, but. Okay.
Rory
Really?
Mal
No.
Damaris
Sounds mustardy.
Rory
That sounds like probably a direct Pharrell beat to me.
Mal
No, I don't think it's a. I mean, it could be. I don't think so, though.
Rory
Keep. Keeps the horn on them, like kamasi. That sounds like a joint. Sorry. I'm getting, like, excited about a snippet, but that snippet is fire.
Mal
Yeah, I've heard people saying diabolical is the new favorite word.
Rory
Diabolical.
Mal
Oh, man. They using diabolical for anything. Oh, it's diabolical in wrong. Diabolical. Yo, Kamasi Washington. Yo. Y'all don't even get it. It plays the sax. I think we get it.
Rory
Yeah, it was. It was actually a pretty easy bar to understand.
Mal
No, it's diabolical, all right, man. I just. I'm just trying to look at.
Rory
They did a bunch of reaction videos of. Oh, my God, the history Of Kamasi Washington.
Mal
Yo, the. They broke down in the video.
Rory
Oh, you're hating, y'all. Don't go back to your feet.
Mal
I'm hating how? I'm talking about the videos that people are making. Breaking down the video.
Rory
I know it. It warranted that. No, there was a lot of, like, Easter eggs and things to break down. Down to the knock and the dance.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
That's connected.
Julian
Like, it's funny. In that same car ride after we listen to this song, we were going through all the references and all the moments that this music video provided. 1. The first one being the knock at the top of the video with the history of the cakewalk. And I really thought about, like, every single thing. If it originated in this country, it was rooted in some racist ass shit.
Rory
Yeah. Something.
Julian
This elementary knock is just. Oh, yeah, by the way, this is what the slaves. That's like. Of course it is.
Rory
I'll be honest with you. I had no idea cakewalk was tied to slavery.
Damaris
Me.
Rory
Once I saw the explanation, I was like, yeah, check.
Julian
That makes sense. Yeah.
Rory
No, this country is obsessed with slavery.
Julian
Nothing is.
Rory
Everything we have is. That's a fact.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Everything is just based.
Mal
Everything that come from. It has to be slavery from somewhere, because everything is built on it. It's the foundation of the country.
Rory
I feel like ever since Childish Gambino, this is America. I've always enjoyed when people make videos that are geared towards the YouTube community that break down every last thing. I actually enjoy that type of stuff. I think it's cool that they do that. I think it's smart to do that type of stuff with videos. You want to get people to sit for two hours and break down three seconds.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
So I think Dave and Kendrick knocked this out the park for what they were supposed to do. Thought visually was really cool. I loved. We already knew that when it's Kendrick, there's going to be a million different small, intricate things that everyone's going to break down. But I thought visually, it was a cool video. They kind of haven't missed. Like, when they did the first press release of PG Lang saying, this is going to be a creative company. They're going to focus on visuals. Have they failed yet? From Heart Part 5 on, has PG Lang failed in the. In the visual area?
Mal
I mean, they haven't. Was it hard part part 5?
Rory
All the visuals from Mr. Morale. Hard part 5.
Julian
I'll remember. They use the. The deep fake.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
The Baby Keem and Kendrick joint that they did for Family Ties. The odd future announcement. Like, I Think we just need to put a little bit more respect on Dave's name as far as a director like Dave has been smoking this shit.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
I loved say what you want about the beef and knocking the owl out and all that, but visually, every shot in this was amazing.
Julian
Yeah, there's some beautiful stills.
Rory
Even, like. Even if you could find it corny that he's beating up the owl pinata. Just that blue background was such a beautiful fucking shot. Everything visually about this was just great.
Julian
The shot of him going over. What is that called? What are they called? The hopscotch shot. The shot of the woman walking the wire. Just. Even the. The great. The simplicity of the. Yeah, I thought all the crates and the.
Rory
How it was colored. It was just a cool video.
Julian
Yeah. The black. I love how this was done in black and white with him and his kids and Whitney dancing. Almost like with the fisheye lens.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
It kind of look almost like a security camera, like you were getting an inside look.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
But when we. When Mr. Morale came out, Rory, we went to the show.
Julian
This shot's beautiful.
Mal
We did say that it did seem like Kendrick creatively was entering another level.
Rory
Yeah, for sure.
Mal
Even his stage show at Mr. Morale, clearly the production and it kind of felt as if it was like a play almost. It had that kind of story book telling to it. So, yeah, that's on par for what I think PG Lang is trying to do as far as visually and, you know, they want to create, they want to have fun. Like you said, Beef aside, I thought the video was cool.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
I mean, I didn't. It wasn't nothing that was. Aside from the. Like you said, the Easter eggs, it. I didn't. Visually, it didn't like, blow me away. It was cool. I thought it was. It did what it was supposed to do.
Rory
But I mean, I feel like that's been. Most of PG Lang's stuff has been great simplistic videos. Because even Hard Part five, like there's a good. Was against just.
Mal
There's a way to do some simplistic videos.
Rory
The focus of that was obviously the AI they were using for Kendrick's face. Just a one shot performance. And even it wasn't family, so it was hillbillies or whatever that shit was. That was the name of the record, right?
Julian
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Rory
Super simplistic video. But I think they smoked it. And this is the same way the intricacies came in. The Easter eggs. In my opinion, that's where.
Mal
That's where the. The goal was at. They. They knew People were gonna have to. They. They planted things in the video visually for people like you said to deep dive into and break down and react to. So on that part of it, I think, you know, they. They obviously spent their time and made sure they executed that part of it right. But I mean, now what? Now that the video's out, still the.
Rory
Biggest song in the world. Let it rock.
Mal
Yeah.
Damaris
I want to know when the album is coming out. I want to know when his is coming out. I want to know if.
Mal
Well, he has a date on his jacket that everybody.
Rory
No, he doesn't. It says SS 2024.
Mal
I thought it was eight. Eight.
Rory
Yeah, they found the jacket. Of course, YouTube found it. And the actual jacket says S slash S. But in that pixelated screenshot, it.
Mal
Looks like an eight.
Rory
It looked like eight.
Mal
Eight. Oh, okay. That was one of the things that I said. August.
Julian
That wasn't a reference to Kobe.
Rory
August 8th. Yeah.
Mal
Yeah. I didn't understand reference to Kobe. That was.
Rory
But they'll find any way to try to put two and two together.
Julian
I did a dive myself that I didn't see on the online. I just off first reaction after watching the video when he puts the owl in the cage at the end. Anytime you see a bird in a cage, I'm instantly reminded of Maya Angelou's I Know why the Caged bird sings.
Rory
Yeah, I think that was a pretty straightforward reference.
Julian
Yeah, but like, with that, it's like the bird, meaning the bird in the cage representing black people in America always oppressed all the shit that comes with that. And then the white bird roaming free, the dove that has the ability to do whatever it wants. And I thought in the inverse of that, what Kendrick did was put the. The owl, the. The Drake, the domineering figure into the cage and like, kind of like symbolizing that, your time's up. Stay in there. I'm. I'm. The black bird's out.
Mal
Now the black bird sings. Yeah, that's the. That's the dive he went on.
Julian
Oh, yeah, I kind of.
Rory
But I kind of thought that was pretty straight up theory of that shot. I don't think that's a far fetch.
Julian
Yeah, I think.
Rory
I think that's kind of what all of us took from that shot.
Mal
I mean, obviously, it was a symbolic thing. You put an owl in a cage, whether you read Maya Angelou's book or not, you're gonna attach that to that meaning of, okay, I got him in the cage. Now it's over.
Rory
I want to see the BTS of Kendrick with the owl, like, in between shots. That's. That's the content I really want to see. As someone that's worked with animals on video sets before, it is the craziest thing you can ever do. I did it with cats and had a bad experience. I could only imagine a live owl on Kendrick's arm in between shots. Like. Yeah, we're getting the blocking and the lighting together. Yeah, I have an owl on my arm. Guys, can we figure this out?
Mal
Doesn't big boy have owls?
Julian
Yeah, he does.
Mal
Like, you just have them in the studio? Like, just.
Julian
Yeah, he has pet owls.
Mal
That's crazy.
Damaris
They said the owl probably thought he was going to a Harry Potter audition.
Mal
Who said that?
Damaris
Somebody on Twitter.
Rory
He was represented by CAA and yo.
Damaris
That had me cracking up.
Rory
Owls are very interesting creatures.
Julian
They're beautiful.
Rory
They're kind of terrifying, though.
Julian
I think they're beautiful.
Rory
Have you guys seen the Fourth Kind? The movie?
Damaris
No.
Rory
And the connection between owls and aliens.
Julian
Here we go.
Rory
Oh, my bad.
Mal
Sometimes you just gotta leave a hat at home.
Rory
The Fourth Kind is a movie.
Mal
I know, I understand that. I understand that.
Rory
It's like a blockbuster movie. There's no conspiracy.
Mal
Get that part.
Rory
They just tie in the connection between owls and aliens in the movie.
Mal
Oh, okay. What is the science between animals?
Rory
They're the same thing, those things.
Mal
Aliens.
Rory
Yeah. What other creature can turn its head360?
Julian
Did you guys see. Speaking of owls, there's something like in California that they're doing a population control thing where they're about to kill off a half a million owls.
Rory
What are the Killing all the mice. They just need to put a bunch of owls in the New York City subway system to catch the rats. Just get. Yeah, get all the rats out. Instead of killing these beautiful creatures, just throw them in the A train.
Julian
Can you imagine a bunch of owls just being loose in your.
Damaris
God, I'd rather the rats.
Julian
I just leave my window open and the owl just flying.
Mal
Yo, you know how.
Rory
Have you seen how big an owl's claw is?
Mal
Yo, you.
Rory
You just sitting on the bench waiting for the train.
Mal
Imagine you had your window open and you go to the bathroom. You come back and it's an owl sitting on your. On your tv.
Damaris
You mean his tv? Because I'm. I moved out.
Rory
Yeah, I got about this your crib now.
Mal
Yo, seeing a bird in your house that ain't yours, that has to be one of the scariest things ever.
Damaris
Well, like, you know, a lot of people have bat Will get a bat or two.
Rory
So house my My aunt that lives upstate. And I don't know if this is true because my family lies to me a lot. Said one time when she was asleep, like on her bed frame, like the headrest thing, there was a bat just hanging and she like looked over and it was there. And then they just ran out and I guess called like, whatever. The cops for animals.
Julian
Are the cops animal control? Yeah, police.
Rory
Oh, we need to defund the police. The cops are showing up when bats are around.
Mal
They show up for anything else, just shoot them. If niggas is around, they show up and shoot them. Why not Bird?
Rory
They would probably take good care of the bat.
Mal
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Rory
Bats are like one of my fears with animals.
Mal
Seeing a bat in your house is wild as fuck. How does a bat get in?
Julian
Happen to my parents before my dad's.
Mal
Yeah, the front doors are just wide open.
Julian
A door, window crack, something like that. My dad took a broom and chimneys.
Damaris
Sometimes attics, like top at like, you know, older houses will have little holes in them. They'll come in through attics and things like that.
Mal
Yeah, now I'm cool.
Damaris
Yeah, I'm terrified of that.
Julian
A bat. I'd rather have an owl get in the house.
Damaris
Yeah, I'm terrified of bats. I'm terrified of anything with wings, but.
Mal
All right, so.
Rory
Well, those owls that we see in like these beautiful photos are not what I feel like the average owl in the wild that would show up in your crib would look like. Like those look like beautiful, majestic National Geographic photographer shots. Like, what does a real owl just look like when it's.
Julian
So a barn owl is the most common. Common.
Rory
Like, I don't think it would be groomed this way. Like it just left.
Julian
That's a bad.
Rory
Yeah, that is.
Julian
It's serving as they would say in Brooklyn.
Rory
In Brooklyn, it's a very pretentious animal.
Julian
So it's a contiel.
Rory
Like, I don't think that's flying into your house.
Julian
Also. That is terrifying. Like, it's beautiful in the photo, but that face facade that looks like when.
Rory
Bailey leaves the groomers. I want to know what the real owl, the musty owl, the musty that would show up in your crib.
Damaris
Bro, look. What you looking for?
Rory
That'd be terrifying. Well, either way. What do you think Drake thought about the video? Did you guys talk?
Mal
No, but I don't. I think that, you know, obviously he knew that this was a video that they was planning on doing for a while. I thought the video would have came out probably right after The Amazon show. But this is probably the last. I mean, I'm pretty sure on the album, Kendrick is probably still going to have some verses and some. Some lines tailored for Drake. But I think this is probably as far as the beef battle. This was probably the last installment of that. We was waiting for this, for this visual of the video. I mean, he kept it la. Went to Tam's Burgers and all of that.
Rory
A lot of crump dancing.
Mal
Yeah. Like, you know, he kept it la. But now what? Now we gotta get the album. We gotta get the music.
Rory
I mean, I love.
Mal
What does Drake do from here?
Rory
He brought back the snippet. Cause that used to be a thing.
Damaris
Yeah, snippet in the beginning or at the end?
Rory
At the end for the next single. I thought that was great. So I'm excited for this beef to just be over and move on to music. Cause again, I love that snippet. Even though it was 10 seconds, it sounds fire. So, yeah, I'm excited for music. I hope it's in the next two weeks.
Mal
Yeah, I want to hear the album. I want to hear what. Because obviously, you know, you just look at the whole entire beef and how this thing started. Like, there's a lot of questions, like, why did. Obviously, Kendrick was prepared for this situation. He wanted this moment. But my thing is why use the Future album song to basically start it?
Rory
Well, if that's.
Mal
Why not a record of your own? And just. That's the only question I still have. And like, why did it start? Cause you gotta go back to where it started. Well, it didn't start there, but you gotta go back to that. That Future record. Like that and that. Like that in that verse. Like, why did Kendrick choose that moment to basically set this entire historic thing off? Like, why was it that.
Rory
I'm sick and tired of watching since.
Mal
We deep dive everything else. Like, let's deep dive on that stage. Why. Why use that moment? I just. That's the one thing I keep thinking about. Like, why would you. Because you essentially gave Future a part of this moment. Right.
Rory
He gave them the song of the summer until not like Us came out.
Mal
Right. So you gave.
Rory
Like, that was supposed to be.
Mal
So you gave them that moment. It started there. That song went number one. Right.
Rory
Malivia.
Mal
So I just. That's the only thing I keep asking myself is why use that one? Why not just.
Rory
But why not? When you're seeing. After First Person Shooter comes out, why do Cole and Drake then go on tour together after First Person Shooter? Like, I see your wise, but you could say wise with everything else. Why are they now. Why are they now making a moment out of this song that has to do with the big three, but there's one missing. And now you guys are on tour together.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
I don't think it's unwarranted for Kendrick to be like, yeah, y'all, it's me.
Mal
That's a little odd, because the record wasn't dissing Kendrick. First person shooter wasn't dissing Kendrick. Drake still doesn't understand why Cole would even put that verse in there. Like, he didn't understand that part of it, but whatever. That's your bars. That's your bars. But now it's like, even that record.
Rory
Like, that's your bars. That's your bars. It's funny.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Cause as an artist, as a rapper, I don't think that you as big as an artist as Drake is. I don't even think Drake would tell J. Cole to change his verse.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
You understand what I'm saying? Like, you don't tell J. Cole to change his verse. That's not something that niggas is.
Rory
Cole would laugh.
Mal
Yeah. Like, you're not telling J. Cole to change his verse. Right. So you listen to the verse that he did and you like, okay, you sure about that? Because again, now you can't even perform that record. And that's his. What was that, Cole's first number one?
Damaris
Yeah, I believe so.
Mal
You can't perform your first number one record. What artist can't perform their first number one record?
Rory
Rick Ross.
Mal
He has one with Drake. Yeah. Oh, well, you understand what I'm saying? Like, it's just, like, he didn't think.
Damaris
It through, I think.
Mal
I think Game doesn't count. Back to what Rory said.
Rory
Like, Game performs how we do all the time.
Mal
Back to what Rory said about and Hater. Love it. Maybe Kendrick hearing it and hearing that song and then him being on tour, maybe that rubbed him the wrong way. But I don't understand why that would rub him the wrong way.
Rory
Because they rub the wrong way. But just competition of, like, all right, bet. If this is what y'all doing, y'all clicking up.
Damaris
Kendrick Bennett, like, have we forgotten the control verse? It was never lovey dovey type shit. J. Cole, as I listen, I actually.
Rory
Thought it was very nice. He said, hey, I love all of you guys, but you're my competition. I think that's the exact quote.
Mal
No, listen, I get that part. Like, I said, it didn't start with the, like, that record, but that, like, that verse Set all of this off.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
And I just. I'm just trying to figure out why Kendrick would use that moment on a future album instead of just putting out a Kendrick record.
Rory
Okay, but we have to go back a bit with First Person Shooter because we now know that's public information. I'm not spilling tea. Quote, unquote. He was supposed to be on that. Yeah, that's why he says in not like us. Are you, my friend? Are we locked in? That was a DM between or a text between the two of them when Drake was trying to get Kendrick on what became First Person Shooter. So there was a weird back and forth with them not sending each other verses and some weird tension of it not happening. So it existed. And then Drake did what I would have done, too.
Mal
All right, cool.
Rory
You want to be a part of it? Me and Cole are going to continue with this record.
Mal
Yeah, but even if I do that, nobody's dissing you on the record. I can understand if I do, but.
Rory
You know, rappers are sensitive and can take any little bar that we may not even understand. That's a whole other conversation and find it offensive.
Mal
I get that. But we. We're dealing with the song that we got and that we heard no matter what it was started as if it was supposed. You supposed to be on it. If you're not on it. And then we still move forward and put it out. As long as we not kicking your backing on the record. What are you mad about? Like, you didn't send the verse. You thought we was gonna hold this record forever? No, like, the moment is gone. Put the record out. But we're not shitting on you on the record.
Rory
I don't have a rapper now.
Mal
Maybe you heard a bar that you kinda.
Rory
I don't have a rapper's brain that way.
Mal
No, listen, that's why I said. I'm just.
Rory
I know a lot of rappers that talk about that brain. And I'm like, wait, you found that offensive?
Mal
Cause a lot of things I hear, I'm like, but why you took it that way? Like, I don't think that that was. But that's what I'm saying. I just want to know.
Rory
Rappers take an ad lib and be like, yo, that's the one. I'm like, what?
Mal
That's the one question I would ask Kendrick. Why use that record in that moment to basically set this entire thing?
Rory
I mean, it worked.
Damaris
I feel like it did, but I.
Mal
Feel like a regular Kendrick song with that verse in it would have worked.
Damaris
I feel like sometimes we try to, like, put strategy in things. There wasn't. I think Kendrick had a lot of strategy in this battle, but sometimes I think things are pretty simple. He was in. He, like, was conversing with a nigga that don't like Drake, and it was just like, oh. Like, I don't think he thought about it too much. Like, yeah, I'm gonna use this moment. I think he probably just heard the beat. They asked Kendrick for a feature. He heard the beat, and he just started going off on it. And the disses just started flowing out of his body.
Rory
And competition wise, if my two peers.
Mal
That's not how that works. That's not how that works.
Rory
My two peers have the biggest rap.
Damaris
Record that's very peer right now, and it was on his mind.
Mal
All right, cool. Yeah, yeah. But, like, that ain't even the song for that type of shit.
Rory
It worked, though.
Julian
Yeah, it was. It became that. It is.
Mal
Of course it worked. But my thing is, it would have worked if it was just a Kendrick Lamar record.
Damaris
Y. I get what Maul's saying.
Mal
Y'all missing that part. Kendrick could have said exactly what he said on that record, on his own record, and it would have worked. I'm just saying, why did he use that moment, that album, that song, to basically start this entire. Or set this thing to another level? Like, that's the only question I have in all this is like. Cause that looking back, it's like, why did you do that there?
Rory
Well, if this was his plan all along, this was a masterclass in planning and the art of war.
Damaris
I don't think it was his plan all along.
Rory
I don't fully think that either, but I think let's. Let's deal with what we do know and what happened. And now the dust is settled and the video's out. I think this is probably the end. There'll be shots back and forth, don't get me wrong. But this, it's over now. What a great moment for hip hop. Like, can we all just stop debating? Like, this was awesome. We'll never see this again. This was the greatest shit ever.
Mal
This was.
Rory
This was shout out to Kendrick and Drake.
Mal
Yeah. And. And their camps. But this was a moment that obviously we're going to talk about forever. Probably forever. We'll keep going back to this moment, but I just think that it's a lot of things that we're going to learn about basically the origin of all of this shit.
Rory
I'm excited for what happens from here.
Mal
As far as music from these respective.
Rory
Artists, you know, like, 20 years later, Vlad started interviewing anyone that remotely touched Tupac. Even if they were just happened to pass Tupac in the hallway, they get like a full Vlad interview. I'm excited. Fifteen years from now, whoever the Vlad is to interview literally anyone that was around to put together the pieces of this whole thing, that's going to be fun for me to watch. I think we'll learn more at that point.
Mal
I don't. I don't think it's. Again, I do think we'll still get some bars and, you know, some. Some metaphors and things like that from each artist. I don't think that this is like, we'll never hear these artists send shots at each other again. I don't think that's over.
Rory
I think my. My prediction. There's never been a heart on an official Kendrick album. I think the intro to this album will be hard. Part six or the outro. Just my guess.
Mal
And you still don't think Not Like Us is going to be.
Rory
I don't think Not Like Us will be on that.
Julian
Yeah, I still don't think so.
Mal
Y'all are crazy. Y'all doubling down on that.
Julian
Yep.
Mal
Y'all are sick. If y'all think this song is not gonna be an album.
Rory
How they do streams with album sales. If this was 2016. Yes. Not like us would 100 be on that album. But they don't count the single streams the same way anymore.
Mal
I don't care what you talking about. This song is gonna be on that album. It's gonna be in the track list. Not down with the asterisks next to it, like a bonus. No, this is going to be okay.
Rory
When you hear in the album sequence, maybe you'll like it more. Will it be one of those for you? Like, oh, once I heard it in the album, I go back.
Mal
I always said, if you take that pedophile weird shit out of this song, cool, I'm fucking with it. That's the only reason why I can't fuck with that song. We not making it cool to sing and dance about pedophilia. The fuck is that? I'm never doing that. I'm never jumping on the street.
Rory
I understand what you're trying to say.
Mal
Yeah, like, I'm not doing. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. But that aside, good song.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Not mad at it at all, but I can't. Nah, I'm not. I'm not singing and dancing to pedophilia. Not doing that.
Damaris
I respect you for that.
Mal
Yeah, like not outing somebody as an alleged pedophile. I'm supposed to walk down the street and start dancing.
Damaris
If somebody dissed me, will you not dance to it too?
Mal
If somebody dis you, I dance to your Derek. If they. If they. But I'm saying, if they dish. If they. Saying your bars is whack and just dissing your bars, I'm like, okay, you.
Damaris
Nah, you can't dance. Be loyal. Be loyal.
Mal
Nah. But if somebody be like, yo, Baby D is a klepto. She be stealing all my shit. And you ain't no klepto. I'm not jacking that. I'm like, yo, she ain't baby.
Rory
That's where you draw the line with. Baby D is klepto.
Mal
Yeah, she don't. She don't steal.
Damaris
Like, I don't steal.
Mal
Yeah, exactly.
Rory
See, the whole first half of this episode was all of us talking about stealing.
Damaris
No, was you.
Mal
As kids. As children, yes. We've all done it. We've all done it.
Damaris
No, Rory was talking about how he.
Rory
Steals as an adult right now with. With the story.
Mal
Oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot. You put your daughter in the line.
Rory
You know how expensive avocados are right now?
Mal
I get it. I understand.
Damaris
And they go bad. And, like, it's like they're never ripe. They're never ripe, and they're right for seven hours.
Mal
Put that avocado.
Rory
Avocado and tea are very similar. Similar in that way. Like, tea is tough to. It's either scorching hot, and then I'll wait, and then it's cold as. Yeah, like, you have to catch it at the right time.
Julian
They've genetically modified everything that we consume, and they still can't figure out the. The avocado aging process.
Rory
I would prefer paper bag.
Mal
Yeah, dark. Dark. Like, back of the cabinet type of thing.
Rory
Put it next to a banana.
Mal
They always have something like that, right? I'm like, why didn't I ever think about putting the garlic inside the fridge by the fruit?
Rory
Watch one Instagram reel and learn about the entire vegetation system.
Mal
Yeah. It's like, yo, is your watermelon going bad fast? Cut up some garlic and stick it inside the watermelon. Okay, now I have garlic, watermelon. I don't want that.
Damaris
I was on Tick tock like that for the fruit flies. The fruit flies. Oh, my God.
Rory
Oh. Since you guys told me that Drano will kill my pipes, like, I lost sleep that next day when you guys told me that because I've been using Drano my entire life. I found baking soda, vinegar, lemon juice. Boiling water is the best way to clean your pipes.
Damaris
And get rid of fruit flies as well.
Rory
I mean, I don't have those.
Damaris
Oh, my bad. Don't eat fruit.
Rory
Yeah. Bacon. Bacon, brats and whiskey. That's all that's in my house.
Mal
That's it.
Rory
Grapes in America.
Mal
Great. You got autism or something.
Julian
Grapes is fruit.
Mal
What? Who just says grapes?
Rory
Johnny Drama.
Julian
I meant to say. I meant to say to make a joke about wine and then instead of saying wine, I was going to say wine is grapes and grapes are.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Julian
But I. I just said grapes are.
Rory
And tequila is like agave.
Julian
Obvious.
Rory
Same. Right.
Mal
Vegan. Yeah, I get it.
Rory
It's vegan. Since it's been another week, I'm doubling down with Lucky Day, having album of the year so far. Doubling down.
Mal
So I. I made sure I locked in with the album this weekend. You know, I like to play music and just not pay attention to it, Just have it playing in the background. Kind of like you had a nice hotel lounge. Not really paying no mind. But then you look over at the piano player like he's killing.
Rory
Where's my Shazam at?
Mal
So. So I let them. The Lucky Day album play. That album is. Is phenomenal.
Rory
It's a algorithm right now, to me.
Mal
Oh, man. Algorithm. The song, Algorithm, Lemonade. It's crazy. Like, he got so many joints on there. I think the difference between. Cause I still. Bryson Tiller's album is incredible, but the vibe of these two albums are totally different completely.
Rory
That's why when we were talking about it last episode, I was like, I can't compare them. They're not the same.
Mal
Now that I really listened to it. And I totally get what you were saying. I understand. But this Lucky Day album is definitely, definitely one of his best albums. Lucky Day don't have a bad album. And that's.
Rory
No, he's three for three.
Mal
He don't have a bad album. But this, this. This Algorithm album is. Is phenomenal. He did a great job on it. Shout out to Lucky Day. Shout out to his team. Phenomenal project. Yeah. I think Lucky Day is, you know, we talk about the R and B guys, the new R and B guys, obviously, Brent Bryson, but Lucky Day is. He's right there in that conversation. I don't know.
Rory
I think this place, this one kind of separated. Not separated him from the pack because Bryson obviously and Brent are who they are, but this just kind of put him to another.
Mal
Lucky is more vocally, he's vocally stronger than Bryson and Brent. But I'm just about as far as their album making and their song making.
Rory
I never got Frank from Lucky like that until I started hearing everyone say that the past two weeks.
Mal
Frank Ocean.
Rory
Yeah. And then I started to hear it like, you know when people just get in your head.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Of course I can see the vocal tones are similar, but I never thought like, oh, this feels like a Frank.
Mal
Even.
Rory
Even once people said it, I was like, okay, I guess I see what people are saying.
Mal
But even lyrics, though, like, Frank Ocean esque.
Rory
Like, which is a compliment.
Mal
Yeah, no, like, it's one of the.
Rory
Greatest written album I've ever heard.
Mal
But to me, Lucky Day is his songs and the lyrics and the melodies and things like that. Like, he's. Lucky is very intentional and knows exactly, very aware. He knows the sound that he wants to make. He doesn't never really step too far out of his box, but he somehow. What he has and what he does, he finds a unique way of kind of making slight adjustments to it where it's not weird. You know, sometimes your favorite artists make an album and you like, this ain't the sound that I love from them.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Lucky is able to make. Keep that sound, but just give it to us differently. It's like he finds different ways to. You know, whether it's the production. I laughed. Cause I was listening to one of the songs and I was like, Rory's probably sitting at home saying, oh, he's just Child's drums.
Rory
Like, first of all, D Mile and Child work very closely together on everything.
Mal
Yeah, no, but I heard it. Listen, I heard the drums. I'm just letting you know I heard the drums.
Rory
Why didn't you call me and apologize?
Mal
Nah, because I.
Rory
And put Yachty on three way.
Mal
Because I. I was just. I was just listening. I was.
Rory
And Child are like.
Mal
They work every day together, 100%, so. But you can hear it, though. Yeah, it could definitely.
Rory
I'm sure Child's probably credited on the song that you're thinking of.
Mal
No, no, the album is. The album is fire, though. Lucky Day, he definitely did his thing with this album. And again, I. Looking at his discography, I don't see no. I don't see no gaps. I don't see no Mrs. At all.
Rory
I found out officially, I think I'm a good father. Officially, as of this weekend.
Mal
Okay.
Damaris
Okay.
Rory
I did need some rest. But you guys know the long week I had before, which we didn't talk about on the podcast, but you guys know.
Damaris
Yes.
Rory
So you know, Kia, that comes along With a tough week for Kia as well. With Amara, I had passes to the Childish Gambino pop up show at the Little Tree.
Julian
Little Island.
Rory
Little island, whatever. The thing that the billionaires gave us after they took all our parks. That place, which is still. Is that just still crazy to me. Billionaires took our parks, and we're like, here. We're gonna put some floating in the Hudson. It's the woman that no one can get into.
Julian
The woman that owns the brand dvf. Donna Van versus whatever the. Her name is. It's her. Her and her husband, Donna Van Rothschild. It was a project.
Rory
Donovan Vanderbilt, Diane Brown Foster. Something like, you know.
Julian
Yeah. The fashion chick.
Rory
Someone that owns bank of America. So Childish Gambino did, like, a live listening event for his new album. Performed all the songs, and I knew I was a good father when I had passes, and I was like, you know what?
Mal
Nah, I'm gonna stay home.
Rory
I'm gonna stay home.
Mal
That's. That's the barometer for, like, if I'm.
Rory
With Amara, nothing can. Every day.
Mal
Nothing can disrupt you.
Rory
But at that point, I was like, look at me. Yeah, it was right down the block, too. I was like, I could run there for, like, two hours. Run right back.
Mal
You know what? Stay with my baby girl.
Rory
Stay right here.
Mal
Solid father.
Rory
But then. Then I saw all, like, the video recaps and all the clips, and I looked at Amara and I was like, yo, you. Yeah, you would have been fine. We did nothing while you were here. We looked at flashcards.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
And learned how to say apple. You could have learned how to say apple yesterday or.
Mal
This looked like a dope event, though.
Rory
Well, that. That venue.
Julian
You're a shitty friend. I would have gone to this. You could have given me.
Rory
That's not how those type of passes work.
Julian
Nah, but, like, technically.
Mal
Nah, but, like, text groups. Yeah. Julian.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
It wasn't one of those can I give my past to someone else type of thing. No, it's like, hey, I'm gonna meet you at the front and bring you in. Yeah.
Julian
I could have gone white. White face.
Damaris
No, they ain't want you.
Julian
No.
Rory
July 19th. The album's coming out. He previewed records with Amaray, Georgia Smith, Flo, Millie, Steve Lacy, his son, Legend. Glover put out a snippet for that. It just sounds great. I'm always excited for Childish Gambino music. I know he gave us the album that was like, 15 years old last month, but I'm excited for the new music.
Mal
Oh, we love. We love Donald Glover. We just didn't want him wearing curtains to honor Usher. That's all. This is the only. Only gripe with him.
Rory
I mean, I'm gonna bring this up. If this album ends up being a classic at, like, Amara's 13th birthday, I'm gonna bring it up to her that, like, I chose you instead of seeing history.
Mal
Seeing history. That wasn't history.
Rory
No. At the tiny island.
Mal
It was a cool night. It was just a cool.
Rory
Have you been on tiny Island?
Mal
No.
Julian
Have you guys ever been over there? It is gorgeous.
Mal
Yeah, yeah, I've been over there, but I've never been, like, inside for a show or anything like that.
Rory
I saw some piano player like Mozart there by accident once.
Julian
Some Mozart there.
Rory
It's the best way I could describe it.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
But I mean, I do want to boycott this place.
Julian
Why?
Rory
Because they, like, took money that should have went to parks and gave us this instead. There's a lot of history with this tiny island.
Mal
Well, I mean, a lot of.
Julian
In Manhattan, they donated 260 million. That couple that I met.
Rory
Yeah, that was after they got so much because they built this. It was a bunch of tax dollars. Like, they also got money from the city that should have went to parks.
Mal
Yeah, but that happens all the time.
Rory
Yeah.
Mal
Welcome to New York City.
Rory
I mean, at least the Yankees put a whole park.
Mal
At least they win, right?
Julian
Yankees haven't won.
Rory
Not since after that game.
Julian
Yeah, they lost like 14 of their last 17.
Damaris
I hate an unlucky white man. What's the point?
Mal
That's wild. I hate an unlucky white man.
Julian
We were all lucky.
Mal
They're lucky to be white. What do you mean unlucky? How come white man be unlucky?
Rory
It's great over here.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Do we have voicemails?
Julian
Yeah. Yes.
Mal
You've got mail.
Julian
I feel like I haven't said this in a while. Just a reminder, if you want to leave a voicemail, subscribe to our Patreon. It's pinned to the top of the Patreon, so it's easy. If you have any problems, just message that account. Damaris or myself will respond and get you the link directly, but it's available to all subscribers from 5, 10 and $20 tiers. So please keep calling in, keep calling back. If we ask for a follow up. And let's. Let's get into today's.
Rory
Do we still have the $50,000 tier up there?
Julian
It' yeah.
Damaris
Nobody's bought it.
Rory
No one's bit yet. Crazy.
Mal
It's crazy. Inflation.
Julian
You think like. Well, I was going to think One of these. I figured, like, one of these streamers would do it just to get access to J.
Rory
Like I said, when we, like, I really think if somebody did take that $50,000 tier, we would be able to.
Mal
Get hove to do that for 50k.
Rory
I think he would laugh if we were like, yo, we had a $50,000 Patreon tier and someone actually just gave us.
Mal
You think he.
Rory
To do a lunch with you?
Julian
You think?
Rory
I think hov it as a joke for us. I really do think that.
Julian
Would he have a fee to do that for you? You know what I mean?
Rory
No, HOV doesn't have fees.
Damaris
We can't afford his fees. No one can. That's why he wasn't charged.
Mal
Don't exist a four million dollar watch to a white party. Fees. Look at this.
Rory
Oh, what's your rate these days?
Julian
I'm not. I mean, I know I'm not. He wouldn't do this to you. I'm saying it would. Another person I could see, not hov particularly, but if there was a tier, say another artist, and they would be like, okay, it's $50,000. I want half of it.
Rory
They would want 50,000.
Julian
They would want. They would want the fee.
Mal
The whole. Yeah, they would want the whole.
Julian
Yeah.
Rory
I think hov would do it as a joke. I really do think that.
Mal
Didn't he do one of the. He spoke to that. The way he said, take the money.
Damaris
Yeah, take the money.
Mal
Like, don't take the lunch. Take the money.
Rory
Well, that advice anyone really needed.
Mal
No, def. Not me. I tried to tell you. I was like, take the money, man. Trust me. Nah, but the lunch is not that good.
Julian
Okay, let's wait.
Damaris
Do we buy the lunch? Like, if I. If I take dinner with Jay Z, like, do I have to pay for the dinner because he got expensive palette.
Rory
I feel like we'd end up at a restaurant where he already has like a tab. Like, he just walks in and walks out and they bill him at the end of the month.
Mal
Yeah, I would. Or the end of the fiscal year.
Rory
Definitely the fiscal year.
Mal
You got to talk fiscal year when you're dealing with somebody with money like that.
Rory
And he'll pay him in three to five business days.
Mal
Yo, get to the voicemail.
Julian
Well, you guys were riffing about Jay Z and dinner. I don't. All right, you were.
Caller
Yo, what's up, everyone? What's up, pod? Big fan here. I've been with y'all since about like 2018, 2019. Around Scorpion dropped, and I've been rolling with Y'all, ever since, you know, sick timeline. Get it? Question. What's the disconnect I hear between the word, like, for the word insecurity? I believe that word is being misused so bad in today's society. From what I've noticed, from what I've seen, the people I've talked to, the experiences I've experienced, you know, I'm in a happy relationship. I've been with my girl for about, like, four years now. So we're doing pretty good. Thank God. Everything's pretty good till now, you know.
Rory
Be on the rocks.
Caller
I see women kind of just doing what, Literally whatever they want and just, like, saying the guy can't be insecure or, like, the girlfriend's girlfriends, like, her friends are telling him he's insecure. She's like, she can wear anything she wants. She can wear a skirt that's showing her the bottom of her butt cheeks. She could go out of Dykman.
Julian
That's right.
Caller
Twerk all night on top of a table. You better not be insecure. She could go sleep over her male best friend's house for three days straight. You better not be.
Rory
Three days straight is crazy news on Instagram.
Caller
You better not be insecure.
Rory
Instagram doesn't allow nudes.
Julian
Yeah, that's a wild loophole.
Mal
Yo. Show me. Show me the guy that's letting his girl sleep at her best friend's house. Her male best friend's house for three days.
Rory
We've had this convo, but three days. I'm drawing the line.
Mal
One day.
Rory
We've had that debate already.
Mal
My girl ain't sleeping one day.
Rory
Three days is crazy.
Mal
Ripping. Man. Are y'all.
Damaris
Are you home, boy? She homeless.
Mal
No, she go to your house.
Rory
That's my girl. She can't be homeless.
Damaris
I have a homeless be homeless. They do.
Mal
Show me one. Who girl for this.
Damaris
They do. Bitches be homeless.
Rory
That's not his girl. That's a chick he fucks. That's homeless.
Mal
Your man got a crib, but you homeless.
Damaris
He got a roommate. Shit. Wow.
Mal
You still not homeless? You can sleep in my room like you stay in my room. Homeless. Yo. A nigga having a girlfriend. Is she homeless?
Julian
Is the go to sleep peacefully knowing your girl? You just have no idea.
Mal
Not knowing where she's sleeping with her best friend.
Damaris
Her male best friend. How he got more room?
Mal
A male best friend.
Rory
He got more room.
Mal
He got more room.
Rory
I got a bed.
Mal
I know. More room, huh?
Damaris
He got a bedroom for me. It's mine.
Julian
That's kind of nice.
Mal
That's crazy. You know how wild that is. Your girl homeless, and you just like, yo, all right, you tell her good night. Tell her her good night. And you don't know where she laying down at. Y'all not. Y'all not doing the math on that, yo.
Rory
All right, well, I do kind of agree with this gentleman.
Julian
Wait, we're not done yet. We're not done yet.
Rory
Oh, he's still going.
Mal
Yeah, yeah, he was. Oh, my pardon self.
Julian
Hold on. Here you go.
Caller
Anything she likes. And if you're insecure, you're officially that weak man. That weak, insecure man. What do you guys think about that? Like, how far does that go? How far does that word go?
Julian
So the overuse of the term insecurity with Madison, that's.
Mal
That's. I'm dealing with a manipulative girlfriend, bro. If your girl's saying you're insecure, she's doing all of that. That's her way of trying to manipulate you into thinking that you are not man enough or secure enough to deal with a woman like herself because she's out moving like she's not in a relationship.
Rory
I do agree with him. And you guys have called me pussy before because I am more on the side of a secure man that is cool with some things that you masculine alpha males are not cool with. He is correct, though. Women have taken this insecure word and ran with it like you would not believe.
Damaris
Like, oh, only women.
Julian
Yeah, yeah.
Rory
100 just women facts. Like, nah, you ass naked and dykeman standing on a table shaking your ass. I'm not insecure. If we're in a relationship. And I'd be like, hey, can you not do that?
Damaris
Can you get down?
Julian
Yeah, there's.
Rory
Can you, like, do you mind just, like, getting off the table? Like, we're in a relationship.
Julian
There's a blur between, I think, being insecure and just things that you're just not attracted to. Like, I'm not insecure about it. I just don't find that attractive behavior attractive. It's not a matter of you doing it because I'm a. Yeah.
Mal
It's just.
Julian
How about you?
Rory
I've changed behavior of mine because we're in a relationship. Like, that's what you do. It's not an insecurity.
Julian
Don't flash it.
Rory
You just respect your partner.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Like, listen, if you want to be. Have your ass out on Instagram. That is what it is at this point. That's life. But we have to draw the line somewhere.
Mal
I think it's funny, man. He said, yo, your girl spent a night at her best friend's house for three days.
Julian
I hope he made that scenario up. And that's not like that's his scenario.
Damaris
Three days is crazy.
Julian
72 hours.
Mal
One day is crazy.
Damaris
I don't want to. I don't want to see my nigga for three days. Imagine somebody else is n good, yo.
Mal
You know how crazy that is? Your girl tell you, yo, I'm at my best friend's house for day three.
Damaris
Well, maybe his mom died.
Rory
I'm not.
Mal
What?
Julian
Damaris. What?
Mal
And guess who about to join his mom? Oh, you. That hurt.
Rory
First of all, I'm not secure enough to not see my girl for three days. The is you doing, let alone just being at your male best friend's house for three days. What you been doing for the last three days?
Mal
You can't go through days without seeing your girl.
Rory
Girl, probably not, no.
Mal
But why, though? Prior.
Damaris
Prior to the baby, you couldn't do it.
Mal
Oh, prior to the baby?
Rory
Cuz I like my girl.
Mal
Like, you can like your girl still not want to see her for three days. Like, after three days, not be like, yo, like what?
Rory
Like, I mean, there's priorities. Like, people have to work and like, they would be on tour and everything, but I enjoy spending time with my girl.
Mal
Like, no, no, I get. Yes. That part we not understand.
Rory
I'm one of those people that, like, likes their girlfriend.
Mal
Yeah, no, but I'm just saying, like, you saying, like, if you don't see a girl for three days, that's crazy to you. You.
Rory
Yeah, cuz we live in the same city.
Julian
Yeah, but it's a big city.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
No, it's not.
Damaris
What if she lived in Brooklyn?
Julian
Yeah, traffic here is crazy too.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Three days.
Julian
Three days to get somewhere.
Damaris
Now if I'm dating a in Queens, I ain't gonna see him for three days.
Rory
You guys both work in the city.
Mal
I ain't gonna lie. Not seeing you for three days and y'all both work in the city is wild. Somebody cheating facts.
Damaris
We can link up for like happy hour, but, like, that's nah.
Mal
Somebody.
Rory
But I gotta be out by eight.
Mal
Somebody.
Damaris
Somebody holler clothes.
Mal
Somebody. For sure somebody hitting that one of y'all getting.
Damaris
Not always. Some people are just antisocial.
Julian
Yeah, but that's your.
Rory
That's your girlfriend being antisocial to your significant other is insane.
Damaris
Rory, don't do that. Because every Father's Day, you come in here and say, I want to be.
Rory
Left alone for fathers one day out of the year.
Mal
That's it. You didn't say every Thursday. He just said Father's Day. Leave me alone.
Rory
Y'all don't think that's crazy to not see if you live in the same city, not see your girl?
Damaris
Oh, no, for sure. I don't think it's crazy. I'm sure that outside of, like, obligations.
Rory
If people have shit to do or, like, you got something to work, you gotta focus. But y'all just both free three days. Don't see each other.
Mal
That ain't tricky.
Rory
That's not weird to y'all free.
Mal
It is weird if y'all both free. Like, nothing on the schedule. Schedule open.
Rory
Just clear.
Mal
You like, nah, I don't wanna see you today. For three days? Yeah.
Rory
Listen, I think it's healthy to talk about those days with your significant other. Like, yo, I need a day like Saturday. I just needed myself. That's cool. But for three days, y'all got nothing. And y'all not gonna see each other.
Julian
Okay, maybe not as serious as a girlfriend, but let me ask you guys this. What is that limit day wise for a situationship?
Mal
I don't know. I think it's subjective, first of all, because somebody like me, yo, I'm telling you, I'm at that scary threshold where being alone is. I'm fine with it.
Damaris
It's amazing, bro.
Mal
Like, I'm at that scary threshold where I'm like, yo, I don't know if I' ever gonna want to give this up.
Rory
Well, I mean, I gave it up with the kid, but before that, that's what. To me, it's not gonna sound romantic. Is the reason to be in a relationship because I hate people so much. Only child love, my alone time. If I just want to be around you. Like, all right, death do us part. Let's just do this.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Cause that's hard to find. Cause I like my alone time so much.
Mal
Yeah, it's just. I just think that big. Yeah.
Rory
Big old.
Mal
And it's okay. And.
Rory
And it's fine if she goes to Dyckman and just takes her shirt off.
Mal
I don't know.
Rory
It's cool if someone blows mint hookah on her chest.
Julian
That's.
Damaris
Yo, you know they're gonna get hard from the mint. That's wild.
Mal
Because you're logging online.
Rory
That ocean miss. Definitely getting an impulse.
Mal
Yo, logging online and seeing a smoke hookah through your girl's cleavage is crazy.
Rory
Yo, Though.
Damaris
Or like the.
Rory
Is that a thing?
Damaris
The body shot?
Mal
Yeah, like, when they put the hookah.
Rory
Thing through, I think body shots for sure.
Mal
And just go and take hookah pulls. But imagine a girl.
Rory
I've never seen that in my life.
Mal
Imagine your girl do that. Like, you go online and see your girl doing it.
Julian
If Sydney Sweeney ever wanted to go to a hookah lounge and we can.
Damaris
Do that, he gonna bring a white woman in no matter what.
Julian
It's out of context. We were talking before we recorded.
Rory
They like. They like Camel cigarettes.
Julian
What?
Mal
No, they vape. They have, like. What are those? The jewels.
Rory
They want to hit the vape.
Mal
They want to hit the jewels. They don't smoke. Who. They have jewels in their pocket.
Julian
What are the new ones called?
Damaris
They have a bunch of.
Rory
They want, like, a cute blueberry vape.
Damaris
You can, like, charge them now. You can charge the cigarettes.
Mal
You is just dancing and getting cancer at the same time. Yeah, we gonna find a way to kill ourselves, man.
Damaris
I'm telling you, I cut down on hookah because I found out you should just stop. Well, I don't. If I. Well, the way that my brain works, if I tell myself I can't have something, it makes me crave it more.
Mal
So instead of, how does your boyfriend feel about that?
Julian
Look at girl math about that mindset.
Mal
How does your man deal with that mindset?
Damaris
I don't have a man.
Mal
Well, when you had a man, how did he deal with that mindset? Because that. Does that apply to anything? I don't understand the question. Does that apply to anything or just.
Rory
Women never understand the question.
Mal
Yeah. Does that apply to just hookah?
Damaris
No, it applies to, like, food, alcohol, hookah. Like, those kind of things that are bad for you.
Mal
Ex boyfriend. Like, is that part of it, too?
Damaris
I love food, hookah, and wine way more than dick. Men don't have to worry about me cheating there. No, I don't like men like that. If I like you, I like you. I'm gonna like a bunch of other women. I don't like men like that. That's not the point. The point is, some people's minds, if you tell them they can't have something, they'll want it more. So I won't say, like, even when I'm dieting, I won't say, I can't have this. I'll say, okay, I'm just not having that as often eventually. Like, I won't eat it at all. Right? But. But I don't want to tell myself I can't have it.
Mal
If somebody told me, yo, if you keep smoking that, you're going to get lung cancer. My body's not going to Be like, oh, but I want it. Like, it's over for that.
Rory
Also, back to the insecurity conversation. Hey, babe, don't have random men put hookah hoses between your tits and smoke it. And she goes, oh, I want that, though.
Mal
I need it.
Rory
We should break up then.
Mal
Yeah, go be single at that point. Right.
Damaris
Can we find out where we could put the mouth on the boobs and the hookah at the same time? Like, being able to put hookah and boobs in, off at the same time. Sounds like a place I want to be.
Rory
I was. I was with Peach the first time I got completely. Completely fleeced in New Orleans. Chick put the shot glass between her titties and, like, damn near, like, kind of forced it down my throat.
Damaris
And they charged you?
Rory
And then just asked me for, like, $35. I was like, wait, you made me do that?
Julian
Yeah, that was a sleep coach.
Damaris
I walked away from that.
Rory
That girl, she legitimately, like, put it right there and then just forced it on my face. I was like, I mean, I'm not gonna push titties away. Yeah.
Mal
Who might have traditional.
Rory
Yeah. Like this gumbo. Like, I'm here for the whole experience.
Mal
I get it. Beads.
Rory
It's like, yeah, it's 35. Like, just give me $35.
Mal
Rory look like he'll go back to his hotel room with a neck full of beads in New Orleans. What you did. What you did for those beads. No, what you did for those beads, man. What you was out there doing.
Rory
I could. Definitely one of the wildest trips I've ever had in my life.
Mal
New Orleans, yo. New Orleans. By far, New Orleans is one of the greatest cities in the world.
Rory
It. It feels like it should not be in America. Like, it's not very.
Mal
You ever been to New Orleans, Julian?
Julian
Still haven't, no.
Mal
Oh, my God.
Julian
High on my list, but more so for the music culture. I really want to go see some shows down there.
Rory
Outside of Busta Rhymes, that was gas. When he was saying, fuck the Essence crowd and everything. Did you guys see that clip?
Julian
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
Rory
The craziest part of that clip was Busta Rhymes said it was his first time in New Orleans.
Mal
No, I think at Essence Fest.
Rory
Okay.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
I was like, there's no way Busta Rhymes.
Mal
No, no, no, no. I think that was his first time performing for Essence Fest.
Damaris
Can we go to the next one? Snfs.
Mal
Snfs.
Damaris
Snfs.
Rory
The sns, y'all.
Damaris
Can we go? Like, you're pissing me off.
Rory
Depends. A lot of no, it don't.
Mal
I just want to be in the city for that weekend. I don't even need to go to nothing.
Damaris
Yeah, Yeah.
Julian
I really just want to enjoy it.
Mal
I'll just go to New Orleans just for that weekend.
Julian
I want to do Jazz festival is really the. My priority down there.
Mal
Did we answer the gentleman's voicemail?
Damaris
Nah.
Mal
What was his question?
Damaris
He said, how do y'all feel? Oh, y'all did. How do you feel about insecurity being overused?
Rory
I agree with him wholeheartedly.
Mal
It's over.
Damaris
Yeah, I agree. It is overused.
Rory
I just don't simple. That shouldn't happen in relationships. Women are calling us insecure because we feel away.
Damaris
Yeah.
Rory
I'm just. I can't get over Julian saying his number one priority in New Orleans during Essence Fest is to go to the jazz festival.
Julian
Well, during Essence fest is a different weekend.
Mal
Jazz fest.
Julian
Yes.
Rory
I like jazz, too, but are you kidding me?
Julian
His lineup's incredible. It was like Masego was on it. Yousef day project. Like, there's some great. We're not going to make fun of jazz fest in New Orleans.
Rory
No, of course.
Mal
That's impossible.
Rory
We're just laughing that, like, out of essence. Oh, I get it.
Julian
It.
Rory
He doesn't like black women. Now it makes sense.
Julian
You don't think the black people will be at jazz Fest.
Rory
It's not what I said, but Essence Fest is catered around black women. Now I see why you rejected it so quickly.
Julian
I'd rather go to jazz festival. Known thing offering.
Mal
Okay, I get it.
Julian
Like, I. We go to festivals all the time.
Mal
No, listen, let me help you out. Play the next voice.
Julian
Yeah, I was just gonna get.
Rory
Make sure Peach doesn't leave the car unlocked.
Damaris
See why you won't let him.
Julian
Was that Peach?
Rory
Probably Peach are better one of them.
Julian
All right, let's do this next one. This one actually pairs well with the last.
Rory
He fleeced us, bro.
Mal
Who said that?
Rory
Styles.
Mal
Oh, my God. They fleeced us. It's crazy, yo, Finding out all your is going. Finding out all your yelling out your leash.
Rory
And then Styles went, oh, they left my. And then. And then the whole ride from New Orleans to Jackson, Mississippi, he said, why did God choose me? I've never wanted to turn around and punch somebody in a car so badly.
Mal
You got to check that pockets. That's the. That he set the whole play up. Do it now. Don't let your fam. Why did God choose. Pull over, fam. I'm going through all his right now. Yo, pull over.
Julian
That that's hilarious. Oh, my God.
Mal
They flee us. Yeah, I know.
Julian
All right.
Rory
City's curse.
Mal
This is Arnold from Texas. This is a question from all. So she say he's so player and he gets. Well, I mean, he don't really say he get or anything, but he say he's ladies that right there alone.
Julian
Not him projecting his image upon you on you.
Mal
Like, show me never sat here and said you never get mad. Show me where I've ever said that.
Julian
He just self edited his real time.
Mal
He said, well, n. You ain't never. He ain't never said I. So now what the are you talking about already? Your whole voicemail is. Is void now. What the are you talking about? Continue.
Rory
This is Reddit in audio form.
Mal
Oh, my God.
Julian
Yeah, I think mall gets therefore this is for him. This is so funny.
Mal
All right, man, whatever. So what's the ideal date to take a woman on? If you want to make it feel special, since small sizes are player and everything. And Rory, of course, because you're married and have a. Have a baby, and I got a baby, too, so.
Julian
I appreciate that.
Mal
I just want y'all's feedback.
Rory
Let me know you appreciate that. I have a baby.
Mal
I appreciate that. Appreciate you for having a kid.
Rory
Appreciate me.
Julian
You're the player in the room. Can you tell us where you.
Mal
I'm the player. I mean, it depends on again, even date. Everything is subjective. Dating is subjective. What type of woman are you taking out? What is. What is her interest? What is she a whore?
Damaris
No, he like. It's a nice young lady. Oh, God.
Julian
Okay, well, if it's a whore, that's probably the easiest.
Mal
Well, find out what she likes. If she likes, you know, certain type of food, then you want to find a restaurant that caters to that specific type of food ambiance, whether it's live music. A good date is also finding out what type of music a girl likes and going to a show, jazz together. And then getting something to eat, something like that. Something chill, nothing too heavy. We could just have a good time, listen to some music. Even depending on what city you're in, you could do a lot of shit. Like go to a park, just kick it. Like, it's a lot of little things.
Rory
You can do after dark.
Mal
Not after dark. No, not after dark. But it depends on the type of person you dating. Man, I like to do. If I'm on a date, I like to do stuff where we could first hear each other. I don't want to be yelling and shit too much.
Julian
That's Important.
Mal
Yeah. So if you gotta.
Rory
People do that on first dates. Like, go to places where they can.
Mal
Well, people go to the movies on the first date, which is kind of like. I don't know, like, you know, I.
Rory
Was gonna suggest alphabe's 2 for 20, then bad boys 4.
Mal
I don't know. I don't know about movies on the first date. I always thought that was kind of weird. We're just sitting there.
Julian
That's a. I feel like the movies on the first date's a shy man's game because you just avoid all the small talk. You're like, we spent three hours together, but you didn't say a word to each other.
Damaris
I'm shy man's game.
Mal
And being shy is crazy in 2024.
Damaris
Are shy what?
Julian
Mad people are shy.
Rory
Maybe on the Texas going crazy, then.
Mal
Meeting shy in 2020. As a. I'm talking about as an adult. As an adult. Not.
Rory
People are so sick now they'll show each other's genitals before they actually meet via text and then actually link up and have nothing to say to each.
Mal
Other, which is crazy to me. Like, we're. We're. We're weird species. You sent nudes and then met up with a girl.
Julian
I don't send nudes. I received nudes and then.
Rory
Oh, my bad, player.
Damaris
Right?
Mal
Got up with her and didn't say nothing to her.
Rory
You don't send the hammer.
Julian
I don't, like, say nothing to it. I don't. I never got.
Rory
I figured the hammer pick was in your Raya account.
Mal
Like, scrolling through.
Julian
Over the body. Odopalicious instrumental it's artsy.
Rory
It's in black and white.
Julian
I mean, technically, yeah.
Rory
Yo, sending your dick pic in black and white.
Damaris
You never hate the black and white. Nude.
Mal
No. Nude, yes.
Rory
I've gotten women in black. Black and white photos because those are attractive. Sending a dick pic in black and white is the sickest thing I've ever heard.
Mal
Oh, remember when they had that cartoon filter? Extending it in that.
Julian
Sending your dick pick in a sketch.
Rory
Running your dick pic through a filter app.
Damaris
Do men still take the dick pics next to.
Mal
I don't know. Damaris. I don't know. I don't know.
Damaris
Like, they might put it next to, like. Remember the old Time Warner cable remote?
Julian
Or like, one of them.
Damaris
Yeah, yeah, like they. Yeah, like. Or like to put it to scale. Yeah, put it to scale.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
I'm sure people put it next to this. It looked pretty big.
Rory
Yo, imagine putting your dick next to a pen to show her what you're working with. Ew, that would be hilarious.
Julian
Okay, well, let me ask you guys pause in advance, since I've never, like, got into sending the dick pivot. What angle? Like, what was the. The angle or shot that you guys would use or send be like, is it from the. From the. The po. Like, overhead, like from the bottom?
Rory
I've done both. No, I haven't. Like, show my.
Julian
Not.
Rory
Like, I've done the selfie version and I've done the over the top version.
Mal
Yo, A, spread his ass.
Rory
You want to see this hairy ass.
Damaris
Because you gotta, like, lift your leg.
Mal
Yo, I know women, yo. I just. Not that I would want to see it, but I just. I know certain women just like. Like, they dms, bro. Like, I know it's some sick shit going on in women's dm. Cause there's niggas out here that don't care at all.
Julian
I was talking to a girl, a friend of mine over the weekend about that. Literally talking about how she was like, you know, your DMs seem to be so negative. It's always like, people call me gay, whatever. For the show. It's fine. I'm used to it. It's like my good. It's like a daily blessing at this point. Affirmations. And she said, yeah, like, that's bad. But like, you should really see what people say to me. And she's like, not in the scene at all. Like, not, not. It's just a pretty girl. That's it.
Mal
That's all it takes.
Julian
That's all it takes. And her DMS are just.
Mal
Pretty girl in the Internet.
Rory
Come here.
Julian
Insane. She was just like, just a New York City working woman.
Mal
It's crazy out here, man.
Julian
So, yeah.
Mal
But to this gentleman, I don't know, Subjective. Find out the type of things your girl likes and then try to cater around that. I think it's pretty simple. Once you talk to somebody and get to know their likes and the things that they're into.
Rory
Also show her who you are. If you're into mini golf, take her to mini golf.
Mal
Take it a mini golf.
Rory
You've never done the mini golf date, of course.
Mal
Absolutely.
Julian
Something I've done in the past, which I don't recommend is. Well, it's a double entendre. Blowing your load on a really nice first, like, over the top first date. So then when you go back for like the second date or third date, you don't. What's the follow up? I took her to like, the Grail off Rip off. So now what I can't outdo, you know, I mean, don't lead with like, the homer.
Mal
Oh, you said blowing your look. I thought you meant, like, just coming to date.
Rory
Oh, I thought you mentioned you came too quick after a good date.
Mal
No, you mean, like, don't show her. Like, don't.
Julian
Yeah, don't. Don't put the ace on the table.
Mal
No, no, no.
Rory
That comes with experience, though. Yeah, like, men will learn that as they get older. That though you send her flowers for the first three weeks every other day, you can't maintain that something that's gonna.
Julian
Look too, because I'm in the scene. Change the scenery.
Rory
I'm in the scene.
Julian
Changing the scenery is very important because.
Rory
It feels like you take it to Michael Rubin's. Let me mando's the door.
Julian
Get my manipulation bag real quick.
Rory
All right, so you're wearing purple, so I already know. And the collars. The collars up. You just look like you manipulate women.
Damaris
It's like a ladder. Like, it's a gay purple.
Julian
It's not gay. It's like lilac. It's very soft. All right, that's. Never mind.
Rory
You look. You look like you tell women you're single because you haven't found someone to match.
Mal
What?
Damaris
You're freak.
Julian
That's crazy.
Damaris
Sorry, it was right there.
Julian
Damn, you learning.
Rory
You look like you say, I haven't found my equal yet.
Julian
Are we done?
Damaris
His spiritual equal.
Mal
Yo, I could keep going, but I'm not.
Julian
No, go ahead.
Mal
No, no, no. Cuz I with Julie. But no, when Rory do like that, my mind just starts with me.
Damaris
You.
Mal
You on me more than anyone else.
Rory
You don't with him. I do.
Mal
That's clear as day. That's my guy. That's my guy.
Julian
Clip is me saying something and you calling me gay.
Mal
No, I just give you. That's what I'm supposed to do. When you my guy, I got to do that. You know me. But Rory started and I'm just looking at the fit. Like, yo, a with slacks in a football jersey definitely hits women.
Damaris
And the collar of.
Julian
Can't say that.
Mal
Just saying.
Rory
When Manchester United loses, he throws a.
Mal
Gasket, he go home and start wild.
Rory
Oh, man, he's broken a toaster oven before.
Mal
No, no, Julian don't hit girls.
Julian
No, no, I don't hit guys.
Damaris
Why is the collar on your jersey up? It's just.
Julian
It's a small collar. It doesn't really lay.
Mal
Yo, that is.
Julian
Look at that. Even want to see? It just popped up. I Don't know what to do. Point is, you take a girl to multiple places throughout a night. That's the point I'm trying to make.
Rory
So you're New York City.
Julian
You start. Yes. You start with drinks, like a happy hour drink. Six, seven, whatever.
Mal
Yeah. If you live in a small city, it's not. We can't do that. But so much.
Julian
Well, I'm recommending to city people.
Mal
Metropolitan areas walk.
Julian
You walk to the next destination. On that walk, you know, you're already got a little buzz in you, kind of. And you kind of like, wing it. Like, there's no real plan. Like, oh, we should get food here. You plan the whole thing.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
Dahmer's memoir, got a little buzz in you. Walk her down the street.
Julian
Knife in your back.
Mal
Walking down the street next to the white van.
Julian
Oh, that guy needs us to change his tire.
Damaris
Let's go over there.
Rory
Yeah, I know the Son of Sam.
Mal
Yeah, I've seen that movie, bro.
Rory
I know.
Mal
Where you going with this?
Julian
Yeah, anyway, just that's my thing. I like, like the element of spontaneity throughout a date. I think that's fun.
Mal
While New York City is expensive to live in, New York City is a great date city, though.
Rory
Oh, it's the best.
Julian
Incredible.
Mal
So much things you can do in New York.
Rory
There's not a bar date city.
Mal
Yeah, you could find yourself paying a lot. But New York is a really, really great date city, though.
Damaris
That's why when we were having that 200, 400 date conversation, and y'all looking at me like I'm insane. I'm like, in New York City, it's so easy to do that, especially if you're moving from spot to spot. Like, it's easy to spend 200 for two people on a date.
Rory
I mean, theoretically, the picnic date. And spend $20 just. Just getting turkey sandwiches and a blanket.
Julian
And a dead ass for those that don't live in New York. So I know we talk so local specific. If you go like my strategy with the cocktail lounge before dinner situation, say you do two rounds there, at minimum, $20 cocktails. So you're looking at. With tip, whatever. That's a hundred off rip just for like the beginning of the date, just the buzz. And then, you know, obviously next spot, more drinks.
Mal
And then she worked up an appetite, so she got to get the porterhouse.
Julian
That's first date porterhouse is crazy.
Rory
Oh, yeah.
Damaris
I don't order.
Mal
She got to get the porterhouse.
Rory
You know that in the charm, the toilet paper. Now that the double Knit one.
Mal
Yes.
Rory
Through the roof.
Julian
That's just like Kevlar.
Mal
Yeah, yeah.
Julian
Can't penetrate that.
Damaris
I never understood that.
Rory
Like, after the portal, she's gonna have to. And you need the Charmin.
Damaris
Ask a girl to go, like, just for drinks for the first date, like, just take me to dinner. I'm never going anywhere and drinking without food. Yo, a date by myself. I'm never going somewhere and drinking without food.
Rory
Yesterday I was sitting with Kia, Beatrice, and Britt, and I was like, yo, y'all want a drink? Got up, got them their drinks myself. Went to $117. I was like, why did I offer you? Bitches need to get your own drinks.
Mal
Especially when y'all paying $1200 to hug Chris Brown. Bitches is always broke till it come time to hug Chris Brown. Y'all ain't never noticed that.
Rory
This is the one time that I believe that bullshit meme of the money's already printed. You just have to go and get it. If people are paying $1,200 to hug Chris Brown, the money's out there, yo.
Mal
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Rory
There's not a lack of money out there.
Mal
Women be like, yo, I don't need a man. I could do bad. By my. You just paid $1,200 to hug Chris Brown. And now you on my line talking about you need something. Cause you can't pay your car note.
Damaris
Yeah, I couldn't pay my car note. Cause I paid $1,200 to hug Chris Brown. Why you acting like that's hard maths?
Mal
You paid $1,200 to hug Chris Brown. You knew that car note was due every first of the month.
Damaris
I thought Chris Brown was gonna give me the $1,200. It was an investment. It didn't offer a return. So now I need your help.
Mal
You thought Chris Brown was Gonna give you 1002?
Rory
They probably thought in their head that they were going to have, like, some Cinderella moment.
Julian
So many retweets.
Rory
And, like, No, I think. I think a lot of those women think, like, yeah, Chris is going to.
Damaris
See them, and he's going to grab their ass. And different from any ass he ever grabbed in. Yeah, it was an investment.
Rory
There's going to be some chemistry there because they built it up in their head. I really think that's what those women think.
Damaris
I had a homegirl who cried because Chris Brown didn't pick her out the crowd at the concert. She came home and called me on the phone and cried because she just Thought for some reason that she would just be the one to get picked out the crowd.
Rory
Did you tell her when you got home that you cried over Gunna?
Damaris
Fuck you laughing at Peach?
Mal
Did you also give her the number to better help?
Julian
You went cry for cry.
Mal
Crying cause Chris Brown didn't pick me. Mental health is. We don't address it in the black.
Rory
Community enough, but fans do fan shit. Drake bought a Pusha T microphone off ebay that clearly Pusha T did not sign. I'm sorry, like fans do fan.
Mal
Yeah, but there's this line between being a fan and then having mental health issues.
Rory
I think buying as a. He was a kid, so I get it. I bought stupid off ebay. But yeah, buying a microphone that clearly Pusha T didn't sign off ebay is. Could be considered.
Mal
Why do you say clearly he didn't sign?
Rory
I just don't think that person had assigned Mike from Pusha T. I think he probably just signed him it.
Damaris
I kept one of Beyonce's towels that had her makeup on it for a long time.
Rory
What you do with it?
Damaris
I kept it in my drawer next to my Steelers terrible towel.
Julian
Yo.
Rory
What are you a Steelers fan?
Damaris
I used to be.
Rory
With everything about you. Until today, before the boycott, I was.
Damaris
A heavy Steelers fan.
Julian
Don't you love Tomlin? Isn't that your guy?
Rory
I with Tomlin, shout out to the noobs.
Damaris
Troy Palma is my favorite football player of all time.
Mal
So, yeah, he was my favorite of all time.
Damaris
Yes.
Julian
Great hair.
Rory
Probably one of the greatest safeties.
Julian
He was so fun to watch.
Damaris
He was amazing. He was exactly. He was super fun.
Julian
He was very fun. What about Roethlisberger, the rapeless burger?
Rory
Big, big fan of that guy.
Damaris
Yeah, you know, he did his thing. You know, he got us where we need to be. I don't really support what he does off the field.
Julian
He certainly.
Rory
Through my whole childhood, I always wondered, I was like, why is Snoop Dogg such a Steelers fan? And then I got older. I was like, oh, it's a gang thing. Never understood why he was the biggest Steelers fan ever. And then I got older. I was like, oh, that's a Crip. Ah, gotcha.
Mal
Okay. Never knew that.
Rory
All right, let's close out. We are on tour starting this month.
Mal
Yes. We are in the 25th City Winery, Philadelphia. Get your tickets now. Newroarinmal.com without looking at the screen.
Rory
Can you give us the list?
Mal
City order?
Rory
Yeah, we've been challenging ourselves.
Mal
All right, cool.
Rory
I'm looking. I'll check.
Mal
Okay. So we're in Philly. July 25th. Don't know what date. We're in Detroit.
Rory
August 22nd.
Mal
August 22nd. And then Chicago is August 24th.
Rory
Fifth.
Mal
25Th.
Julian
Close.
Mal
Chicago's August 25th. And then we're September. We're in London. September 11th.
Rory
How'd you know that one?
Mal
Greatest day of American history. September 11th. And then we're also in London again. September 14th, 18th. September 18th. September. September 11th. September 18th in London. October 17th. We're in Toronto.
Julian
Wow.
Rory
Okay.
Julian
Of course you knew that one well.
Mal
Because there's only one show. It's like, that's easy to remember.
Rory
And then Drake and then birthday. We're all gonna be. All of us are gonna be at the.
Mal
I want to say November 11th.
Julian
White party.
Mal
November 11th. Atlanta.
Julian
22Nd.
Rory
Close, though.
Mal
November 22nd. Yeah. Oh, so that's 211.
Rory
11.
Mal
Yeah. Okay. 1111. November 22nd in Atlanta. Then December 13th. Yep. And December 15th, 14th, 14th.
Rory
Back to back shows.
Mal
Back to back shows, New York City. Tickets available now.
Rory
Newroariamal.com for those that didn't fully understand that train wreck. Philadelphia, July 25th. Detroit, August 22nd. Chicago, August 25th, 5th. London, September 11th and September 18th. Toronto. October 17th. Drake's birthday to follow. That's the after party. Atlanta, November 22nd, New York. We are there. December 13th and 14th. Tickets available now.
Mal
Oh, man.
Rory
Subscribe to Patreon. There's merch up there now. We have merch for the shows that's coming together. Cool.
Mal
Yep.
Rory
Can't wait to put that out. Which, yeah.
Mal
Excited to get back on the road and see. See some people. Cool.
Rory
Touch the fans.
Mal
I mean, you know, just some conversations, laughing to see some familiar faces, people that have come to some of the shows before. Okay. And get to hang out in a couple cities and have some fun with, well, my guy Peach. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get Peach drunk in every city. It's my duty.
Julian
You don't need to get pretty drunk. He'll just do it.
Mal
That's him. In every city, no matter what.
Rory
Can you afford a Bud Light?
Mal
That's all it takes for Peach. Peach. Drink one Bud Light and get arrested.
Rory
Peach. Peach. We gonna see the naming in Chicago. Don't duck this time.
Mal
Don't duck the smoke.
Damaris
Do y'all have, like, a babysitter? Like, is Loyon going with y'all to make sure y'all don't do bad shit?
Rory
First of all, Loyon just.
Mal
First of all, he just shows up. He's the one that needs to be fucking. We need to keep tabs on him. It's not us. I'll be in the fucking room. Sleep. I'll be watching first 48. I'm that type of shit on the road. I don't give a fuck.
Damaris
Yeah.
Mal
Yeah, that.
Rory
That was a fun. I forgot what city we were in.
Julian
Boston.
Mal
Boston.
Rory
All of us just in separate room.
Mal
And went back to the hotel and literally we were all watching the same. Welcome to the Light.
Rory
Bunch of losers.
Mal
Look at us, man. Look at us.
Rory
No, we're doing it. And didn't we at the bar, there was like three or four amazing women.
Mal
Oh, no, it was some people. Some cool people there.
Julian
There was that one lesbian couple.
Rory
That's.
Julian
That's very cute.
Mal
They were cool couple. They were cool.
Julian
I think I still follow them on Instagram.
Mal
Yeah, they was cool.
Rory
Wait, they had their own. That's such a lesbian thing?
Julian
No, they have a joint Instagram. Separate accounts.
Rory
Okay.
Julian
Yeah, I meant individually. That was really.
Rory
That's such a lesbian thing, though, to have, like, their account.
Julian
Would you do that to Maris?
Rory
Would that be some headache?
Damaris
No, because then they gotta have my password.
Julian
No, you'd have your own private one.
Mal
You have your own account. You have an account together. Other. Wait, y'all just pictures of, like, y'all.
Damaris
Well, if we're doing it for me and Maul have one of those content. Yeah, y'all are lesbians.
Rory
Yeah, but Mall and I are lesbians.
Damaris
Yeah. Yeah.
Julian
I would do it.
Damaris
I would do it for the money.
Rory
Is that weird that we have a joint account?
Mal
Very.
Rory
We just try to throw new in front of it.
Julian
Have you ever logged into that account on Instagram?
Mal
Yeah, I think I logged in once and I never logged in after that.
Julian
You're not missing out.
Mal
Yeah, I'm not big on social media no more, man.
Rory
I check the DMs every now and then, just see what nasty shit Julian's doing.
Julian
I literally don't talk to anyone. I only answer merch problems and like, ticketing, touring questions, customer service. Yeah, I'm not like, show me your titties, I'll give you a ticket. Although if you want to show me your titties, I will give you a ticket.
Damaris
I'm not giving you a ticket. I'm not giving you no ticket off tickets. I need whole pussy hole.
Mal
That being said, anybody wants to show titties, show titties tickets.
Damaris
Expensive.
Rory
All right, Pete, I just had another nasty quote in my head, and I think you know which one I'm talking about.
Mal
Quote.
Rory
It's cool. Oh, we'll move on. What peach was there?
Damaris
Hey, white man bonding peaches.
Julian
Oh, Jesus.
Mal
A trauma. Bonding.
Rory
Yes.
Mal
All right, well, we'll get back to y'all in a couple days. It's hot as in New York City, I hope. I'm. I'm pretty sure it's hot. Hot all around the country. I know they in Texas, talking about, yo, turn the sun down.
Rory
Well, there's a hurricane.
Mal
Oh, yeah. Damn. What's it? Burrow Barrel is the name of it.
Rory
Some butch dyke name.
Mal
Yeah. If you're in the Texas.
Julian
Yeah, that is a dike.
Mal
If you're in the state of Texas and affected by this hurricane, please be safe.
Rory
Jamaica. I. I wanted to feel bad for y'all, and then I saw y'all was twerking in the hurricane.
Mal
Yeah.
Rory
And I was like, never mind. Y'all fine.
Mal
Yeah, rain and heavy winds. That's all it was. But. But seriously, be safe if you are in the path of this hurricane.
Rory
We're gonna catch some of this this weekend.
Mal
We need to. We need some rain. Man. It's stink outside this week.
Damaris
Honestly, it's gonna be, I think, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Mal
We need some because it stink.
Rory
I have to drive upstairs.
Mal
Outside. Stink.
Julian
Oh, yeah, it's ready.
Rory
I have to go. How far is your family from Cooperstown?
Julian
No, that's not. That's not too close.
Rory
Okay.
Mal
Baseball hall of Famous.
Rory
Yeah.
Julian
Are you going to that?
Rory
I have to go to a memorial for family married in family. They're from Long island, but for some reason, they're doing their grandfather's memorial in Cooperstown.
Mal
Oh, okay.
Rory
Must have been a big baseball fan.
Julian
It's like an hour. A little over an hour from my parents. You can go say hi to them. They'd love to have.
Rory
I'm probably just gonna go straight.
Julian
Yeah.
Mal
Yeah. I'm probably not gonna get off that exit. I'm gonna just keep going straight. But, yeah, be safe, be blessed. Enjoy the summer, wherever you may be. Also, some of our favorite songs are on our Patreon Ram Radio right now, so subscribe to that to hear some of our favorite songs of the summer thus far.
Damaris
And more are coming on Thursday. So.
Mal
Yeah, so we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.
Damaris
Rip Rhaenys, take Targaryen.
Mal
Who? New warrior now.
Episode Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 283 | Hookah Smoke & Insecurities
Release Date: July 9, 2024
In Episode 283 of "New Rory & MAL," titled "Hookah Smoke & Insecurities," hosts Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris engage in a lively and multifaceted discussion covering personal experiences, cultural observations, music analysis, and relationship dynamics. This episode weaves humor with insightful commentary, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives.
The episode begins with Rory announcing their live show campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, emphasizing the city's significance as the inaugural location.
Mal adds details about ticket availability and merchandise:
The hosts delve into a candid discussion about experiencing more sweating as they've aged, sharing personal anecdotes and exploring potential reasons behind this change.
They discuss nightly sweating issues, sleep discomfort, and humorous strategies to manage excessive perspiration.
Mal introduces the topic of microdosing, sparking a conversation about the benefits and societal perceptions of using substances like THC and psychedelics to enhance mood and emotional resilience.
The group reflects on how microdosing could potentially mitigate conflicts in stressful environments, such as typical office settings.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting Kendrick Lamar's music video for "Not Like Us," with the hosts appreciating its intricate visuals and symbolic depth.
The discussion touches on themes of oppression, symbolism in imagery (like the owl in a cage), and the video's alignment with Kendrick's artistic vision under his PG Lang banner.
The conversation shifts to social events, particularly Michael Rubin’s All White Party, highlighting attendee dynamics and the intersection of celebrity culture with music industry tensions.
They speculate on the presence of high-profile individuals like Drake and the underlying tensions related to the recent Kendrick-Drake beef.
A listener's voicemail prompts an in-depth discussion on how the term "insecurity" is often misapplied in romantic contexts, with the hosts sharing their viewpoints on relationship dynamics and personal boundaries.
The hosts debate the implications of labeling one's feelings as "insecure" and advocate for healthier communication in relationships.
Further into the episode, Rory, Mal, Julian, and Damaris explore modern dating scenarios, discussing appropriate behaviors, setting boundaries, and the complexities of maintaining trust and respect in romantic relationships.
They offer practical advice on planning dates that foster genuine connection and mutual enjoyment without unnecessary pressures.
As the episode concludes, the hosts share their excitement about upcoming tours, providing listeners with dates and locations for their live performances.
They emphasize connecting with fans through their live shows and merchandise, encouraging listeners to attend and engage with their journey.
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This episode of "New Rory & MAL" blends humor with thoughtful analysis, offering listeners a deep dive into personal wellness, the intricacies of modern relationships, and the ever-evolving landscape of music and celebrity culture. Whether you're tuning in for the laughs or the insights, Episode 283 delivers a comprehensive and engaging experience.