Episode 285 | Trump’s Attack & Slim Shady Review

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode 285 | Trump’s Attack & Slim Shady Review
Release Date: July 16, 2024

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Overview

In Episode 285 of New Rory & MAL, hosts Rory and MAL dive into two primary topics: the alleged assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump and a critical review of Eminem's latest album, "Death of Slim Shady." The episode blends political commentary with pop culture analysis, interspersed with personal anecdotes and humorous exchanges among the hosts.

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1. Discussing the Alleged Attack on Donald Trump (00:00 - 35:00)

The episode opens with Rory and MAL promoting an upcoming live show in Philadelphia, setting a casual and engaging tone. The conversation quickly shifts to a contentious topic: the reported assassination attempt on former President Trump.

• Initial Reactions and Skepticism (22:19 - 27:07):

  • Rory expresses strong skepticism about the authenticity of the attack, questioning the feasibility of a lone shooter successfully targeting Trump amidst heavy security. He states, "That makes no fucking sense whatsoever." (25:00)
  • MAL and Damaris discuss the rapid dissemination and subsequent disbelief of the news on social media platforms, highlighting the challenges of verifying such information in the digital age.

• Security Lapses and Conspiracy Theories (27:07 - 35:28):

  • The hosts delve into potential security oversights that could have allowed the shooter access, with MAL pointing out, "Why was this kid allowed access to a rooftop 150 yards away from a presidential candidate's rally?" (28:42)
  • They explore various angles, including possible intentional lapses or under-resourced security details, but Rory remains unconvinced, labeling the entire scenario as "bullshit." (27:30)
  • The discussion underscores the polarized nature of political discourse, with the hosts reflecting on how such incidents might further divide the nation.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: "They [Security] couldn't mess up this much. It couldn't have happened." (27:07)
• MAL: "Once the shooter is down, their next job is to get the president off the stage." (28:17)
• Damaris: "We have been shadow banned before." (02:16)

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2. Social Media Censorship and Its Implications (01:23 - 03:00)

The conversation transitions to issues of social media censorship, particularly focusing on Instagram removing their smear campaign video.

• Censorship Concerns:

  • Rory and MAL express frustration over Instagram's removal of their content, suspecting bias in the platform's moderation policies. Rory notes, "They took our smear campaign video off Instagram." (02:05)
  • Damaris highlights the risk of continued shadow banning, which hampers their ability to reach their audience effectively.

• Satire Misinterpretation:

  • The hosts discuss how AI-driven content moderation struggles to understand satire, leading to the unjust removal of their posts meant to be humorous or critical.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: "I think the real words, and they were trying to [protect me]." (02:47)
• MAL: "Be careful. This is crazy, right?" (03:00)

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3. Eminem’s "Death of Slim Shady" Album Review (35:00 - 78:00)

Shifting gears, Rory and MAL delve into a comprehensive review of Eminem's latest album, "Death of Slim Shady," dissecting its themes, lyrical content, and overall impact on the hip-hop landscape.

• Album Content and Themes (35:00 - 46:00):

  • Rory praises the return to classic Slim Shady elements but criticizes the overuse of offensive language and topical references that feel out of touch. He remarks, "There was two Bruce Jenner jokes on every song." (56:41)
  • MAL echoes similar sentiments, expressing disappointment over the lack of replay value and the shift towards more commercial beats, distancing from Eminem's raw rap roots.

• Comparative Analysis (46:00 - 60:00):

  • The hosts compare "Death of Slim Shady" to Eminem's earlier works, noting a decline in lyrical depth and a reliance on shock value rather than substantive content.
  • Damaris and Julian contribute by highlighting specific tracks that exemplify these issues, such as the repetitive and contextually insensitive lyrics.

• Impact on Hip-Hop and Fan Reception (60:00 - 78:00):

  • Despite their criticisms, the hosts acknowledge Eminem's technical skill in rap but question the relevance of such albums in today's evolving musical landscape.
  • They discuss how the album might be perceived by different demographics, with Rory suggesting it's tailored more towards younger, internet-savvy audiences who appreciate shock humor over lyrical complexity.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: "This is some good old contemporary, adult rap." (67:01)
• MAL: "I'm past this type of music. I'm not with that sound." (65:05)
• Damaris: "He just checked all the boxes. He talked about his mother's vagina, like, come on." (57:22)

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4. Navigating Relationships and Platonic Friendships (78:00 - 117:56)

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the dynamics of relationships, particularly focusing on maintaining platonic friendships amidst committed partnerships.

• Trust and Boundaries:

  • Rory shares personal experiences about trusting his partner to maintain friendships without crossing boundaries. He narrates a scenario where his wife stayed with a male friend out of concern for his well-being, emphasizing mutual trust built over years.
  • MAL and Julian debate the implications of such interactions, reflecting on societal perceptions and personal insecurities that may arise in such situations.

• Navigating Social Situations:

  • The hosts discuss hypothetical scenarios involving friends and romantic partners, highlighting the importance of clear communication and established trust to prevent misunderstandings.
  • Damaris underscores the challenges of balancing platonic and romantic relationships, especially when alcohol and external pressures come into play.

• Cultural and Social Expectations:

  • The conversation touches on broader societal expectations regarding gender roles, fidelity, and the stigma associated with men maintaining close platonics with women.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: "We just don't see each other and try to build that amount of trust." (84:07)
• MAL: "You don't want to be mad at me for feeling some type of way." (94:56)
• Julian: "I'm going to put this on the calendar." (14:33)

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5. Eminem’s Influence and Hip-Hop Evolution (117:56 - 145:00)

Returning to the topic of Eminem, the hosts explore his enduring influence on hip-hop and the genre's evolution.

• Legacy and Adaptation:

  • Rory reflects on Eminem's ability to adapt his Slim Shady persona to contemporary times, though he questions the sustainability of such a character in the face of modern societal norms.
  • MAL and Damaris discuss the balance between maintaining artistic integrity and evolving with audience expectations, acknowledging Eminem's technical prowess but critiquing his thematic choices.

• Comparative Artist Analysis:

  • The hosts draw parallels between Eminem and other artists like Lil Wayne, examining differing approaches to lyrical content and public personas.
  • Julian and Damaris emphasize the importance of meaningful content over shock value in sustaining a long-term career in hip-hop.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: "This is for the listeners that can relate to, I don't know why you keep." (63:24)
• MAL: "This is an American problem. This is a problem with our society." (42:39)
• Damaris: "We need something more substantial than just offensive words." (61:27)

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6. Closing Remarks and Future Plans (145:00 - End)

The episode concludes with the hosts reiterating their upcoming live events and encouraging listeners to attend. They briefly touch upon Eminem's continued relevance and tease future discussions, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and candid conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• Rory: "Never stop, never settle." (146:17)
• MAL: "Be safe, be blessed." (146:25)

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Conclusion

Episode 285 of New Rory & MAL offers a multifaceted discussion that intertwines high-stakes political commentary with in-depth analysis of contemporary music. The hosts navigate through complex topics with a mix of skepticism, humor, and personal insight, providing listeners with both critical viewpoints and relatable narratives. Whether debating the authenticity of political events or dissecting the latest in hip-hop, Rory and MAL deliver an engaging and thought-provoking episode that underscores the podcast's commitment to candid and diverse conversations.

Transcript

[Rory]

Philadelphia, parts of Pennsylvania, Delaware, South Jersey, New York City. They could take the Amtrak down with us. We will be in Philadelphia next week. Tickets are still available, but they are moving fast. We do an Amtrak party for New York City.

[Mal]

Can we?

[Rory]

Yeah, I'll bring a Beats pill.

[Mal]

I don't think that's a lot on Amtrak.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, we'll bring a Bose and we'll just have a party for everyone in New York City to ride down with us to the Philly show.

[Mal]

Sounds like that's not a bad idea.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'd like to see Delaware out there. Western Pennsylvania. Just Philly is a central area.

[Mal]

Yeah, it is.

[Rory]

We can't just target just Philly.

[Mal]

Love Philly, though. July 25th, City Winery. Get your tickets now. Newroarimal.com New worry and wish death upon me.

[Damaris]

Blood in my dog and I can't see?

[Rory]

I'm trying to be what I'm destined to be? And trying to take my life away?

[Mal]

I put a hole in a for with me?

[Rory]

My back on the wall? Now you gonna see? Better watch how you talk when you talk about me? Cause I'll come and take your life away?

[Mal]

Many men? Many, many, many, many men? Wish death on me.

[Rory]

Lord, I don't cry no more.

[Mal]

Don't look to the sky no more.

[Rory]

I mean, do you get demonetized for talking about stank box?

[Julian]

No, for person.

[Rory]

They took a. They took our smear campaign video off Instagram.

[Mal]

Yeah. What the. I opened the Instagram and I saw. I got the alert. Yeah.

[Rory]

And then I tried.

[Mal]

What was that about?

[Damaris]

Protecting Rory.

[Rory]

Actually, when I read the guidelines, it did seem like they were trying to protect me from you. And you claiming that I used the hard er.

[Mal]

But I said. Claiming it was Nick Gardens, though.

[Rory]

Yeah, but then you said the real words, and they were trying.

[Mal]

I said garden. Slow.

[Rory]

True.

[Mal]

That's all I said.

[Rory]

Then I tried to protest, and I filled out the whole thing. And you had to fill out a.

[Mal]

Fill out a form.

[Rory]

Instagram got back to me immediately, was like, nah, not happening. We reviewed it again.

[Mal]

Nah, we should put it back up.

[Julian]

That doesn't make any sense to me, though.

[Damaris]

Well, I don't want to. I would repost it, but I don't want to get shadow banned. So let's just abide by their guidelines because we have been shadow banned before.

[Rory]

But then when I was filling out, like, the little form, there's one question that's like, all right, what was the purpose of this? And one of the options in the multiple choice that you can click Is. It was just a joke. So I was conflicted. Like, do I click this? Because I feel like once you click it's just a joke immediately, it's never going to get put back up. Yeah, but that's an option. Like, bro, I was just joking.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

I won't even serious use the Hardy R. But, like, come on. It's jokes, bro.

[Mal]

But it wasn't even that. It was. We didn't even. It was Nickerson Gardens. It was just a. Slow down.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Voice of Nickerson Guards. And I don't know.

[Rory]

I see people get murdered on Instagram, by the way.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Without context. If I'm just. Because that's not probably going through a human review. That's just a. AI.

[Rory]

For sure.

[Damaris]

Without context. That looks like we're just trying to get Rory canceled.

[Rory]

It does, but I mean, that's why I can't mess with AI. Like, they don't understand satire.

[Mal]

I saw Dead Babies and. And the Gaza.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

For two months.

[Rory]

And all they put videos. All they put ahead of it was, be careful. This is crazy, Cy.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And then you could just click it without even seeing.

[Julian]

Be careful. This is crazy, Rory.

[Rory]

What? That's what they do.

[Mal]

It's so stupid. But anyway, Tickets available now. New Rory Mall.com live show coming to a city near you. Don't worry, I'm not going through each date, even though I know it.

[Rory]

We'll be in Philly next week.

[Mal]

I studied all the dates.

[Julian]

You did?

[Mal]

I did. I studied them.

[Julian]

I'm happy for you.

[Mal]

I know the dates now.

[Rory]

Are you excited for Philly? You got something in. You got something in Philly? No, I didn't like that. No.

[Mal]

I had kind of.

[Rory]

Kind of stumbled over your words.

[Mal]

I had to think about the. Where Philly was at.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Right. I had to think always right next to us.

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Is that.

[Mal]

No, not at all.

[Rory]

I feel like Philly girls rarely stay in Philly.

[Julian]

Nah, they don't.

[Mal]

Like, they just moved to D.C. or.

[Rory]

Miami or New York.

[Mal]

Yeah. Who wants to move to New York?

[Rory]

When I was like, whenever I hear.

[Mal]

People say, yo, I'm thinking about moving to New York, I'm like, why?

[Rory]

Well, that was a thing before that. It's now changed to LA or Miami.

[Mal]

Moving to New York is just a bad idea.

[Rory]

Like, it definitely is.

[Mal]

Who. Who would want to move here? I just don't understand.

[Rory]

But, like, in the beginning, like, when the boom and everything was here as far as, like, industry.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I could see why people would move here. But now. Right. You're crazy. If you move to New York City now?

[Mal]

Yeah, I don't.

[Julian]

Some people have jobs here that they have to move here for jobs. A lot of people want to be in the entertainment industry or certain business industries, and this will make them the most money living here. They don't know that you want to.

[Mal]

Be in the entertainment industry. You can live anywhere now. It doesn't matter. It's the thing called the Internet, social media.

[Julian]

If you're in corporate mall, you cannot live anywhere. That is not true.

[Mal]

It is. I know people that work corporate and.

[Julian]

Entertainment, and I know plenty of people who work corporate and entertainment and have to be in office, and that office is either in New York and. Or la. That is why they cannot move.

[Rory]

Plenty of people. I'm saying most of it is in LA now.

[Julian]

Yeah, most of it is in la.

[Rory]

Like, I get all the bankers and have to be in New York, but even like marketing and other shit, it's either working from home or another city. I don't think you need to be in.

[Mal]

Listen, don't move to New York.

[Julian]

Please don't move to New York.

[Rory]

Yeah, traffic is already crazy.

[Mal]

I'm trying to help y'all. Take it from me, you don't want to live here. It's rats. It stinks. They going to charge you obscene amounts of money for high rent to sleep in a matchbox stank box.

[Rory]

That'll traumatize you.

[Mal]

Yo, it's nasty in New York City right now. It's bad.

[Rory]

I went upstate over the weekend for a little family getaway.

[Mal]

How was that?

[Rory]

It was great. Did remind me why I should not be living in New York City.

[Mal]

Once you get out of the city.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

Beautiful.

[Rory]

Just.

[Mal]

Just fresh air, clean, quiet.

[Rory]

Cheaper. I. I don't know why Amara was running around chasing chickens. Yeah, she's only. She's chasing fentanyl here. Stepping on vials. Bare feet.

[Julian]

Used to ch. Chase chicken, too.

[Mal]

I used to chase chicken. You know, that was. That was a old. Listen to Maris. That was. You know, that was. That was. That was many moons ago.

[Rory]

And then you had them chasing the bird.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was many moons ago.

[Rory]

That was many bird meaning like a kilo of cocaine.

[Mal]

I don't know what you're talking about. But, you know, it is what it is.

[Damaris]

Why, you're vegan now.

[Mal]

Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Got to stay with.

[Rory]

Stop messing with the birds.

[Mal]

Yeah, but Kuba Sound was cool.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was my first time up there. Baseball hall of Fame.

[Mal]

Hall of Fame. Baseball hall of Fame.

[Rory]

I did. I Went there with a Pete Rose jersey just to, you know, shake, protest. Yeah. Let people know how time to let Pete in. So across the street they have like a bunch of shops where they sell jerseys, obviously. And there's a Pete Rose vintage jersey in every store on that block. And I'm like, yo, he could be across the street, but he can't be over here.

[Mal]

No. And the fact that betting is like a part of the MLB now is insane. That Pete Rose is still not in the hall of Fame.

[Rory]

And like, if he bet against his team and then purposely, I can understand that. Don't let him in.

[Mal]

I can understand that.

[Rory]

He was just kind of like, no, we gonna win. Yeah. I'm a confident coach and the all time hit leader.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

Put me in the fucking hall of Fame.

[Mal]

Pete Rose deserves to be in the hall of Fame. Cut the shit. It's over with.

[Rory]

But no, it was cool. Smaller than I expected, but it was also cool to see the field that baseball was invented in. I just felt American, man.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just felt real American over the weekend.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, trees, Budweiser, baseball lot, lot of Trump mourners. A lot of angry people walking around Cooperstown on Saturday, which we'll get to.

[Damaris]

Oh, shit. You were there during.

[Rory]

Oh, dude, I was in.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. You might as well.

[Rory]

I was in. I was in Mecca when Trump caught. Caught a hot one to the ear.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Everyone was enraged. They were storming the streets of Cooperstown.

[Mal]

Crazy times.

[Rory]

But no, it was cool. Cool weekend just to get out the city. Driving with a toddler for four or five hours, I wouldn't recommend. But, you know, we stopped at the outlets. When's the last time you were at the outlets?

[Mal]

Which? On Wilbury Common. Oh, like, probably like January.

[Rory]

Yeah. Another reminder why I haven't been there in five, six, seven years.

[Mal]

Too many people.

[Rory]

Too many people.

[Mal]

It's packed. I hate going to that.

[Damaris]

Damn. I haven't been there in forever.

[Rory]

The more I think, like, Americans aren't consumers like we used to be. Go to some premier outlets in upstate New York.

[Mal]

Yeah, they keep telling this. They keep telling us it's a recession.

[Rory]

The economy's doing fine.

[Mal]

I'm like, yo, everybody's outside spending money. Like, how is everybody broke? I don't get it. I don't understand it.

[Rory]

But I just notice shit differently now. Like when I got a dog, I started noticing dogs more. And dog parents. Now that I have a kid, I just noticed kids and parents more.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

It's just so many fathers just walking around the outlets Just trying to kill time.

[Mal]

Just looking.

[Rory]

Just trying to have their kids tire themselves up.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Literally just buying time for the day.

[Mal]

And all day the kid goes, y'all all have the same face when y'all.

[Rory]

Every time.

[Mal]

The outlet shop. And y'all all have the I just want this day to be over with face.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then your girl tries to trick you. Like, oh, I could go get some lingerie. And it's like, this is the Victoria's Secret outlet.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

They don't have any of the flashes.

[Damaris]

Stitches. Stitches are.

[Rory]

It's 100% cotton in every place that we go to. Don't try to trick me. I know what you're trying to do. You want to go to Yankee Candle.

[Mal]

Yeah. And lingerie ain't going to do it. Like, who cares about that? Like lingerie really. Like, you end up taking it off anyway.

[Rory]

And the amount of time we even have for a window to do that.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

You can't put lingerie on. Take your clothes off. We got five minutes.

[Mal]

Bend over. That's it. I don't care what you wear. So this big T shirt and lift it up. Who gives a fuck what you wear?

[Damaris]

I love that look.

[Mal]

The big T shirt. Winnie the Pooh.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. I love the way.

[Damaris]

That's a great look. That's a lingerie. Just throw a big shirt on.

[Mal]

Big shirt. Oh, man. And that thing just sitting there, just waving underneath that shirt. Just side to side jingling.

[Rory]

Yeah. Just with a baby crying in the background. Ms. Rachel playing. Trying to get in the mood.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Not that you guys will probably care, but it was really cool to me. We were driving through the Catskills to get up there and we came across this town called East Durham, New York, that is called the Irish Alps. The entire town is just people from Ireland and it has the biggest Irish store, import Irish store in America. The entire town is just. Everything is completely Ireland. Everyone's Irish. It was really cool. We just stumbled upon it, pulled over.

[Mal]

You didn't just stumble upon that somebody.

[Rory]

What do you think? I studied the route. I've never been a Cooper stunt in my life.

[Mal]

Somebody told you make this left.

[Julian]

No, up here and there's your people.

[Mal]

Then you're going to see your fucking.

[Rory]

No. We were driving on one of those one lane roads and we saw a big ass billboard for St. Patrick's Day, March 17, 2024. I was like, I think they're a little past advertising that. And then after that it was just Irish flag, Irish flag, Irish Alps. And then we just ended up Stopping and walking around the town.

[Mal]

How was it?

[Rory]

It was cool.

[Mal]

It was souvenirs.

[Damaris]

Was it all redheads?

[Rory]

The Pharaohs must have ran through that crazy.

[Damaris]

I'm picturing just redhead because they had.

[Rory]

Like, every Irish family name with, like, all the merch for each family. And Pharaoh was empty on everything. I got, like, two mugs. Meanwhile, every other Irish name was in stock.

[Mal]

Damn.

[Rory]

But it was. It was cool. I know you guys don't care about that.

[Julian]

No, I actually think that that's blackout.

[Mal]

We need the Black Alps.

[Damaris]

That's what the Bronx.

[Rory]

Van Cortlandt Park.

[Mal]

Rory, that's not funny.

[Rory]

But it's a big mountain, you know?

[Mal]

I get it. I understand. I know. I know what Van Cortland looks like. I get it. Thank you. Thank you.

[Rory]

That's a lot of hills.

[Mal]

No, thank you for thinking that Van Cortland park is the Black Alps. Thank you. Appreciate that.

[Rory]

Pelham Bay.

[Mal]

Yeah, either.

[Julian]

Rory, were the people nice to you in your.

[Mal]

Were the people nice to him?

[Rory]

Oh, I was walking around his family. I was walking around with a redheaded child. That's adorable.

[Julian]

Oh, we was.

[Rory]

We were celebrities. It was like the mayor came into town.

[Mal]

Was kid with you? How'd they treat her?

[Rory]

You know, one of. She's one of the good ones, I.

[Julian]

Was about to say. Because when you said, oh, my God, I saw this town and I stopped.

[Mal]

One of the good ones.

[Damaris]

She stayed in the car.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm like, I would. I would get the. Out of that town as soon as possible.

[Rory]

It's really people from Ireland that migrated here. Like, accents and all. They're not Irish. Americans are racist.

[Julian]

Yeah, Irish.

[Rory]

Real Irish people have never even seen a black person. So to them, it's just like, you know. Oh.

[Julian]

Oh, my God. Did she have her afro out?

[Rory]

No, she had the braids. Long braids, though. Even worse.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, she had the poetic justice going on. Okay, okay. Janet.

[Rory]

They don't know who Janet Jackson is.

[Mal]

Have no idea. Have no idea.

[Rory]

But, yeah, that was my weekend. I guess eventful, uneventful, was just.

[Mal]

Just. It's good to get out the city. Good time out of the city. Go to baseball hall of Fame, and then you got to see some of your Irish.

[Rory]

Yeah, relatives slept in a motel.

[Mal]

But what kind of motel? Because you can find a good motel outside of the city.

[Rory]

Upstate New York motel.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What, you think you locked the door? It didn't have a door. It was just a screen.

[Mal]

Is it one of those motels where you open the door and your car is Right there.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. 100.

[Mal]

Oh, man, I hate those.

[Rory]

You know, I was sleeping next to my license plate.

[Mal]

Those motels, when you open the door and you can see the car right here. I hate those type of motels.

[Rory]

And, like, upstate New York, though, those motels, some people stay there for like, the whole summer. So it was like family barbecues outside of my window every single night.

[Mal]

Oh, that's.

[Rory]

That's the Bronx, more or less.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's the Bronx. Still busting off fireworks. All kind of just.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, no, it's great. Great fireworks the entire time.

[Julian]

So while I was sitting at home waiting by the phone, waiting for you to call me. Oh, we're supposed to go to the rooftop.

[Mal]

It rains Saturday, and we said we.

[Julian]

Was going to do Sunday. If it rains.

[Mal]

It rains Sunday too.

[Damaris]

It rained for like 45 minutes.

[Julian]

Oh, first of all, Saturday, it rained for like 45 minutes. So it was done raining by 3pm.

[Mal]

More than 45 minutes yesterday, though.

[Damaris]

No, it didn't. I was outside when I was playing basketball, it rained. And I waited under a tree for 15 minutes and then it stopped raining.

[Rory]

This is a terrible excuse. Just. Why didn't you go to the rooftop?

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, the rain legit was less.

[Rory]

Than 20 minutes precipitation over the weekend, raining.

[Mal]

So once it. Once it rains, I'm like, who the fuck is going to be outside on the rooftop?

[Rory]

The ho's gonna be out.

[Damaris]

A lot of people.

[Julian]

Yeah, I was gonna say I went somewhere on Saturday and we were outside. I got there, I want to say 4 or 5 o'clock. The rain was done. It was hot as fuck outside.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was. It was definitely hot. This weekend. This weekend was hot, but it rained. I didn't. I didn't think he was gonna be outside. I'm gonna be honest. Once I see it raining, I'm like, nobody's outside on the rooftop. It's not.

[Julian]

So we going this weekend?

[Mal]

Is it raining this weekend? If it's not, let's go. I'm down.

[Damaris]

I'll go with you.

[Mal]

I have no problem, Baby D. I have no problem.

[Julian]

Set me up to let me down. This like every other day of my life, bro.

[Mal]

It's not on me to. I didn't make it rain. It's not me. But if it's clear, if it's nice out, let's go. Let's go fucking hang out. I wanna see what you be doing. I wanna see when you go out. Yeah, that's why I really wanna go out with Demaris. Cause I wanna see what you Be doing when you outside? Cause I just see pictures and videos. It's like. No, no, no, no, no. Those are the highlights. I don't want. Don't show me the highlights. I've been. Show me the low lights, too.

[Julian]

I'm actually very chill. I don't really.

[Rory]

I don't know, cuz I. I didn't have. When I did have my shitty motel WI fi. I looked at your ig.

[Mal]

Is this you hanging out?

[Rory]

You kind of outside. He was hanging out. Hanging out like the Joker.

[Mal]

Is this you hanging out of a.

[Damaris]

This is chill. Then I don't want to know.

[Rory]

Wait, hold on. You're saying you were not outside? You look at my location? I was at a memorial. You are hanging out with. With your ass out on Fulton.

[Julian]

Wait, hold on.

[Mal]

Okay, first of all, whose G Wagon is that, number one?

[Julian]

Hold on.

[Rory]

This.

[Julian]

Let's just.

[Rory]

Are those bulletproof windows on the G.

[Julian]

I need everybody to take a breath. Okay?

[Damaris]

Bad idea.

[Julian]

So this. I can explain. All right. So this was at the very end of the night, and I had had more drinks than I should have had. And they played First Person Shooter. You guys know how I feel about first person shooter.

[Rory]

Wait, you have the window?

[Damaris]

The first person shooter.

[Mal]

Yo, what the fuck is happening? You are hanging out of the window of a car because somebody played First Person Shooter. That's not that song. Don't even make you want to do that.

[Rory]

I'm thinking she's listening to Mace. TVs all up in the headrest. Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, what is this?

[Rory]

You was listening to First Person Shooter.

[Mal]

I think you. I thought you was listening to Annie up my fucking, like, mop. What is this shit? First person shooter got you doing this?

[Julian]

I like the song a lot.

[Mal]

I like the song, too, baby. D. It never.

[Julian]

It's one of my favorite songs that came out in the past, you know, recently. So. And you got. I explained that when it first came out.

[Mal]

That's the energy that first person shooter gives you.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

Biggest.

[Julian]

The what? Like, that's the I feel.

[Mal]

Okay. All right.

[Julian]

So that's what you put me in. Beef.

[Mal]

Hanging out of a window for first person shooter.

[Rory]

Have you ever seen the movie Hereditary?

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. When the head gets knocked off.

[Julian]

Why don't you even bring that up?

[Rory]

For your own safety, Ma. You know, because you was looking left and right. You should eyes forward. There's street signs in New York.

[Julian]

Listen, I was in Brooklyn and Best eye.

[Mal]

Oh, my God.

[Rory]

It's called Stuyvesant Heights.

[Mal]

Stuyvesant Heights.

[Rory]

That's what it's called now.

[Mal]

Who named it?

[Rory]

The real.

[Julian]

I was in. Where the was I at? I was in the Bronx. I can't remember which area.

[Rory]

From the Bronx?

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Brooklyn.

[Julian]

Hanging out the window. This was like 4.

[Mal]

Hanging out the window from the Bronx to Brooklyn.

[Julian]

That's wild. That's the wildest ride. Hell no.

[Mal]

What?

[Rory]

Especially because you're gonna hit some traffic too. Now you're hanging out the window in park.

[Mal]

What are you doing?

[Julian]

No, but they started. I was in the South Bronx and the dude I was with, he was like, nah, don't call this a stuff. He's like, this is so bro. I said, this what?

[Rory]

No, bro.

[Julian]

He said, these white people out here calling this so bro.

[Mal]

Not so Bronx. Third Avenue. Yeah. 159th Street, Brook. Yeah, I know.

[Rory]

So bro.

[Mal]

So bro, my ass. You'll get your ass shot out there. So bro. Get the fuck out of here.

[Julian]

But yeah, I was at a. I was at a rooftop party or whatever and I had a few too many drinks. My best friend came and took me to go get crab legs. And after the crab legs that was.

[Rory]

Hanging out the window with a stomach full of crab legs is crazy.

[Damaris]

With a full cup.

[Mal]

Your best friend is a guy?

[Julian]

Yeah, he came and got me from I was at tears shout out to Tierra. I was at tears rooftop party and I had a couple drinks and he was like, you need to eat, so I'm gonna buy you crab legs. Who was filming though, huh? Alex. Alex was in the back seat.

[Rory]

It's crazy.

[Mal]

Y'all be on some boy. You and Alex get together, y'all be on straight.

[Rory]

And I don't like that she just called a party because, Mike, she called it an activation to try to throw us off.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Was at this activation over the the weekend? No, you was at a party getting drunk.

[Mal]

Yo, girls love an activation. Anywhere where y'all can step and repeat. Oh, y'all love that.

[Julian]

Step and repeat.

[Mal]

Anywhere where girls can step and repeat. Oh, they love that. They there for sure they there.

[Rory]

When did we allow that word to come in? 2010, maybe.

[Mal]

Activation.

[Rory]

The activation? Yeah. I'm going to this activation for this brand. No, you going to an open bar party to get drunk.

[Mal]

That's all you doing.

[Julian]

But it was still for a brand.

[Mal]

Get a gift back.

[Rory]

Was it. Did it get activated?

[Julian]

It was a 10 year anniversary.

[Rory]

So it's been activated for 10 years. You can't activate it now.

[Mal]

You got to reactivate it. Going on for 10 years. I'll tell you, people just want an excuse to be outside Acting up, man. That's all it is. Yeah, go crazy, baby. D F it.

[Julian]

But me and ma gonna go crazy this weekend. I told everybody else that I am in the house for the rest of the summer, but for you, I'll come outside.

[Damaris]

Man, you both been lying to each other this whole all summer. You haven't been inside and mall's never coming out with you.

[Julian]

Why you think we made it this far?

[Mal]

That's the best relationships when y'all lie to each other. You got a lot of each other. That is right.

[Rory]

Way more fun.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So where are we going on Saturday?

[Julian]

You keep saying you ain't going. Rory, you can't come.

[Rory]

Yes, I can.

[Julian]

Why? I mean, not. I mean, I always want. I'm sorry. I always want to hang with you, all that shit. But me and Margot had, like, bitches around. You can't be around.

[Rory]

Well, like, I can't contain my temptations with, like, type of. I can't be around a woman that I don't want to.

[Julian]

All right, go home. Go home. I'm gonna put it in the calendar. I'm gonna put it in the calendar and I want you to go home and put it in the calendar.

[Mal]

Is hilarious.

[Rory]

Well, my girl gotta see it.

[Julian]

His girl's on our calendar.

[Rory]

That's my argument of like, yo, she was on the calendar like a week.

[Mal]

Wait, your girl has access to our calendar?

[Rory]

Part of it, yeah.

[Mal]

What part of it?

[Rory]

Like, the summer.

[Damaris]

Like, there's no partial calendar. It's either she has access to it.

[Rory]

Or what part of like, if you just add some personal shit. But anything to do with our podcast, when we record when we have episodes.

[Julian]

So they can book for.

[Rory]

For the baby, you know?

[Mal]

Gotcha.

[Rory]

But no, she doesn't have, like, your dentist appointment.

[Mal]

Okay. All right, cool. Kia know where I'm at. Like, damn. All right, fuck it. It' good.

[Julian]

But Rory, you just gonna tell kid? Yeah, you know, I'm just about to go hang with Damaris Mall and some up on a rooftop at the pool.

[Mal]

See, no, I stopped at the Marison Mall.

[Damaris]

No, we'll just say picture we gotta.

[Rory]

Shoot period at the end of the sentence there. Why would I say. And some.

[Damaris]

That's also a long ass calendar invite. That's a lot of words for a content day.

[Julian]

Because you can't just say, oh, I'm just going to the. I'm just going to a rooftop with Damaris and Julian at the rooftop.

[Damaris]

Oh, it's just a pool content day.

[Rory]

We're shooting and neither of y'all got So I don't have nothing to worry about.

[Mal]

For sure.

[Julian]

You ain't got no. That's a speak for us.

[Mal]

The marriage. Got them. I ain't got no. I ain't been outside in so long around no women. Call them flowers. Let's call them flowers and not. I don't have no flowers.

[Rory]

Objectify them in a different way.

[Mal]

Flowers, flowers, flowers.

[Rory]

Call them women, too.

[Julian]

But flowers are temporary. Let's call them plants.

[Mal]

Flowers aren't temporary.

[Julian]

Yes, they are. They die, and so do plants.

[Mal]

Go get some new ones.

[Rory]

Soda.

[Julian]

That's that. Go get some new ones, everybody. You ate with that one.

[Mal]

Go get some new ones.

[Julian]

He ate with that one.

[Mal]

Yeah, right.

[Damaris]

Damn.

[Mal]

You feed them, you water them, give them sunlight.

[Rory]

You arrange them in different ways, and.

[Mal]

Then you go get some new ones. So what I mentioned, huh?

[Julian]

Fruit flies.

[Mal]

Kings call them fruit flies. Fruit flies. That's who we are. Damn. We some fruit flies. That's what's up.

[Rory]

It's bad because I keep dead flowers in my house. When they dry out.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I leave them there.

[Mal]

Got to.

[Rory]

It's a metaphor.

[Julian]

Yeah. Tell your therapist about that one.

[Damaris]

Take the soul out of these.

[Rory]

Well, just have this lifeless thing just living in my house.

[Mal]

Well, flowers.

[Rory]

Yes, we talk about flowers.

[Mal]

Oh.

[Julian]

So I was at the rooftop when I checked the group chat and saw y'all in there going crazy.

[Rory]

Well, rightfully so. I feel like we were wilding in the group chat. No.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, when there's an attempt assassination on a former president, I feel like that gives a green light to, like, go have some type of dialogue.

[Mal]

Absolutely. Go crazy.

[Rory]

I was laying in the motel bed between the service and, like, the repass shit. I caught it, like, at that first minute of the clip coming up, and I looked over at key. I'm like, I think they just shot Trump. And she was like, you. You and your YouTube rabbit holes. I'm like, no, no, no. I think they really just shot Donald Trump, like, live. I think one minute ago, I kept hitting refresh. I was like, okay, they shot Donald Trump. He was like, can you stop with this bullshit? I'm like, no, look.

[Mal]

Was that Julian that sent the Twitter link?

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Somebody has sent the Twitter link to the chat.

[Damaris]

I sent it very quickly, and I.

[Mal]

Clicked it, and it was already deleted. So I was like, oh, this must be some Internet video that got taken down immediately. So I didn't pay no mind. And then literally five minutes later, my phone started blowing up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And my homeboy was like, yo, Trump just got shot. So I Said what? I said, yo, cut it out.

[Rory]

Because at first I thought they would like, you know, someone doctored the video like he ducked. And then someone just added like shots in the background.

[Mal]

Because that's, because that's what happens now. That's what happens. And that's the dangerous thing about like today with social media and you know, people being able to dock the videos and, and cut clips and things like that. You don't, you almost don't know what to believe because that was the probably general feeling about this when it first broke was that it's not real, it's fake, and this, that and the third.

[Rory]

Or like someone shot a mile away at something else and they heard it ducked. And that's what I thought in the beginning of this. Well, we got more and more details as the day went and even up until this morning on my way here, there's been more detail.

[Mal]

Well, it's gonna be, we're days away from.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think we're far from hearing.

[Mal]

The end of this, but months ago I did come on here and say that they would attempt to shoot and kill Donald Trump. And Rory kind of like brushed it off. And I said, but the thing about it is if they do kill Donald Trump, which I hope and pray doesn't happen, but if they do, I don't think people would care. I think people would continue scrolling. And Rory, you said that's absolutely crazy to think that because that's former president being killed. And I said, I truly don't think that people would care. And after this happened, I think my feelings are more solidified and more that people would not care because when this happened, people thought it was fake. And then when they found out it was real. Oh, it's staged. Why would Donald Trump stage to get shot?

[Rory]

Okay, I'm not coming in here with my tinfoil hat on today. I promise. I'm not going to go in my crazy rabbit hole conspiracy theory bag. I'm just going to state the obvious that's in front of my face. That makes no fucking sense whatsoever. You're telling me some 20 year old fucking kid that could barely get into his rifle class in high school because he couldn't get a fucking shot together or know how to use a fucking gun, somehow got on top of a roof 150 yards away from the president. Former president, where they set up for weeks at Secret Soc. Secret Society. See, I am, I do have it on. Secret Service.

[Mal]

Still got your hat on.

[Rory]

Somehow got on top of a roof, crawled while people were yelling, yo, there's someone crawling on the roof with a gun and got a shot off. Also a shot that plenty of snipers that have gone both sides of the news to say is probably the easiest shot in human fucking history. It's like day one, basic training sniper shot. Anyone could get that shot off. Missed eight fucking times. Caught him in the ear and never put a social media post up. We know nothing about him. This is bullshit.

[Mal]

It's always that.

[Rory]

This is all bullshit.

[Mal]

I don't think it's all.

[Rory]

I have no theory. I'm just saying the facts of this entire thing are bullshit.

[Mal]

I don't think it's bullshit. I do think, obviously the former President was shot, was shot at, bullet obviously hit the side of his ear. But I do think that it's a lot deeper than that. Why was this kid allowed access to a rooftop 150 yards away from a presidential candidates rally? Right. And if anybody's ever been to a rally or anytime a political figure as big as Donald Trump or any other political figure are in town, especially here in New York City, you know what the security measures are? There's snipers on every rooftop, there's drones, there's the Secret Service everywhere. You can't get into certain streets. So we're talking about 150 yards away. So that's. Something is fishy with that. Anybody that has ever worked in this type of security detail would tell you, I mean shit, we had Pete Buttigieg here and the Secret Service came here the day before he got here just to look at entries and exits and. Yeah, and this is just a recording studio. So now we talking about.

[Rory]

Yeah, we had to hide a few things.

[Mal]

Yeah, we talking about a presidential rally.

[Rory]

It's like we shouldn't have this in the studio. Studio if he's coming.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we talking about a presidentiality. And 150 yards away a rooftop is not secured. It's just, it's something there that says either there was a lapse in security and he was allowed to gain access.

[Rory]

To that if this story is factual, of what happened where this 20 year old kid from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania brought a ladder and climbed on top of that roof and was up there for over five minutes putting together his shot while the Secret Service saw him but wasn't allowed to take the shot. I am going to go full out and say this is a complete lie.

[Mal]

A complete lie. As far as what?

[Damaris]

Yeah, what do you, what are you calling.

[Mal]

What is the lie?

[Julian]

Who's lying?

[Rory]

I don't know. That's why I said, I'm not here with my tinfoil hat because I don't know. I'm saying that that factually makes no fucking sense.

[Damaris]

What doesn't make sense?

[Rory]

That a 20 year old kid could case the top of a fucking building that is a direct, clean shot at the former president and possibly one of the most loved and hated presidents of all time and get a clear fucking shot and sit up there for that long while people are yelling, yo, there's someone up there with a gun. Hey, police, look right there. If that is what the story they're trying to feed us, I'm saying it's absolute bullshit. Yeah, he, if it comes out that that's not the real case and we figure out that he did have some clearance from somebody, he was working with somebody, then it's making way more fucking sense.

[Mal]

As of right now, you're saying the information that we have, none of it makes sense.

[Rory]

Bullshit.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

So either either there was a purposeful lack in security that allowed Trump to get shot, or it was set up by somebody, whether it's Trump team or Biden, whoever, for him to get shot.

[Mal]

But I do think that there was a lapse in security.

[Damaris]

That's. And that's the fact of the matter. It' less interesting than you think, Rory.

[Mal]

And I, and I, and I, I do, but I do believe at the same time, because we got to remember, just, you know, it's a lot that happens when we're talking about politics and presidential, you know, campaigns and things like that. When, when Trump was hit with his felony charges, one of the first things they tried to do was have his security detail taken away from him. They called for the Secret Service.

[Rory]

That can't.

[Mal]

But I'm just telling you what was called, what was asked for because he had.

[Rory]

It's unconstitutional. Every president for the rest of their lives has a.

[Mal]

What you're saying? I'm saying that was one of the things they put on the table.

[Rory]

I think if they get impeached, they no longer have it right.

[Mal]

Whatever it is. One of the things they asked for when he was found, like fully impeached, not tried, when he was hit with the felony charges was, oh, he, here's a guy now that has a felony charge, whatever he needs his security detail taken away from him. I remember that was one of the first things. Now this is why this is dangerous. Because if you're saying take away his security detail, you know, the detail that he had is. Was it not strong enough? Obviously it wasn't. Was there a lapse in it because it wasn't as strong, obviously. Like there was somebody allowed to get on the roof 150 yards away from him. So when you start to put all of these things together, and I'm not trying to go down no conspiracy hole. I'm just looking at what happened. Obviously, security missed something here. Was it purpose? But did they miss it on purpose or did they just not have the manpower to cover all areas the way they should have?

[Rory]

No. No fucking way that they.

[Damaris]

I don't think it's a lack of manpower. I just think it's. It's a lack of. Mistakes happen. Humans are flawed. I think they just overlooked a part of the property, and I don't think anything would.

[Mal]

150 yards away. You don't.

[Damaris]

But, you know, but. But look at the detail. How they reacted after the incident occurred. That was awful. They. Why did Trump. Why did they let him stand up and expose his face, his body raise a limb?

[Mal]

But once they said. Once they said, shoot her down.

[Damaris]

We don't know the threat you've used.

[Rory]

There's always. You only know if you. They. They changed after the Ronald Reagan incident. They completely changed how Secret Service deals with presidents being out in the open. They didn't do a JFK for some fucking weird reason. They kept them in convertibles. But after Reagan got hit, they changed everything. There's no way that Secret Service allowed Donald Trump to stay there. And cool, I get it for you guys, the whole fight and Let me get my shoes. Was a moment. If he was just shot at, why are you holding him up? I can see his face.

[Damaris]

His whole body was insane.

[Rory]

I can see his face right now. And he's saying, yo, let me get my shoes. I'm not saying they didn't have a great reaction, shout out Secret Service for jumping on top of him right away, but to hold him up for another fucking clean headshot was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

[Mal]

Well, I think that once they. Once they knew that the shooter was down.

[Damaris]

We know. We've assessed one threat. We were. They're unaware of everything else that's going on. Like they said many a times, the first thing is just a decoy for a bigger thing.

[Mal]

You.

[Damaris]

You literally neutralized one person who knows at that point that he was acting alone on this one roof. You have no idea. To have him get. And also. And again, my. One of my closest friends runs these details and does these rallies quite often. The thing that Trump instinctually ducked behind is fully that flag. Banner is all bulletproof. So he made the right move in the moment. He did everything he was supposed to do. And whether Trump's ego or just adrenaline got the best of me, he's like, I need to get up. Security is supposed to be, stay the fuck down here. We need to take care of whatever's. You never move someone from point A to point B without even understanding the scope of what's happening around you. Well, especially when it's an active shooter. And he. This motherfucker was standing up, at least trying to, when his team was firing back. Now you're looking at crossfire like they're. They handled this so fucking poorly.

[Mal]

They didn't try to stand up when they was firing back. When he. When they stood him up, they got the call that the shooter was down, and then that's when the military was on stage in front of the podium. That's when they stood up. Trump didn't want to be seen being dragged out of there with no shoes. So he said, where's my shoes? He stood up, said, fight, whatever he said. But I think that that was a moment of adrenaline. Once he sees blood, he doesn't even know where he's hit at. He just sees blood on his face, on his hand, whatever.

[Rory]

I don't even know if he saw it. I had imagined adrenaline.

[Mal]

I don't even. But it's adrenaline.

[Damaris]

I think he was running. I think Trump purely off adrenaline. Yeah, I'm not even. But again, I don't think someone's trying to get up.

[Rory]

I think Secret Service did some dumb shit and picked him up.

[Mal]

They did a off. Well, they have to pick him up to get him off the stage.

[Damaris]

They never should have moved him. They never should have moved him.

[Rory]

They should have stayed piled on top of him until everyone was sure.

[Damaris]

They never should have.

[Mal]

They got again.

[Rory]

And listen, we know we're not experts in this shit, but common fucking sense would say.

[Mal]

All I'm saying is this. Once security detail gets the call that the shooter is down, they had no.

[Damaris]

Idea the severity of the situation.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's what. More like that's.

[Mal]

That's telling you, once the security here. Shooter is down, their next job is to get the president or the presidential candidate off of that stage. They're not going to drag him off that stage. So y'all saying they stood him up. How else were they supposed to get him off the stage?

[Damaris]

They weren't supposed to get him off the stage.

[Mal]

Are you kidding me? They have to get him out of the stage.

[Julian]

I think that they were supposed to get him off the stage, but he should have stayed.

[Rory]

Weird.

[Mal]

They stayed down until you can hear the audio. It says shooters down. The military uniform right there. They get on stage with their rifles. Now we have to move the President off of the stage. We have to get him into the car, get him out of here.

[Julian]

But he should have stayed.

[Damaris]

The fact that this photo exists is insane. He just got shot less than a minute ago.

[Julian]

Why is she ducking a he not.

[Damaris]

Less than a minute ago he got shot. Look at how exposed his body is. We don't know the severity of the situation.

[Mal]

You're right, but this should, this photo should not exist. You're right, but what I'm saying is.

[Damaris]

That'S a clean shot.

[Mal]

Right, but once the security hears shooter is down, they have to get him out of there.

[Julian]

They do so more.

[Rory]

Okay, no, we're just saying that it was stupid.

[Damaris]

By happenstance, this was a lone shooter. We at the time, they had no idea what was actually happening on those grounds. When you hear shooter down, that means one single threat is neutralized, not the area itself is clear. So to then here shoot her down. And for him to do this is. I'm not saying it's his fault. I'm not blaming Trump. It's his detail, the men that are literally supposed to put their lives and this woman are supposed to put their lives at risk for him and this woman keep him down. You don't expose the man.

[Mal]

They have eventually have to get him up and get him off the stage is what I'm telling you. They had him down. He was down. What I'm telling you is once they hear shooters down and the military jumps on the stage and they're scanning the audience and all of the snipers on. There's only one reason they even allowed them to stand him up and get him off that stage was because they felt like we have everything covered right now. Get him off the fucking stage.

[Rory]

And I'm saying, clearly they didn't. And that's my stage.

[Mal]

Well before he got shot. Clearly they didn't. Yeah. Which is, which is, which says to me it's either a lapse in manpower and security and it was obviously a hole that somebody exposed. Which is stupid because 150 yards. One of the only rooftops out there. How could you not cover that? Which is like.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they've showed some aerial shots of the grounds there and it's, it's like maybe three rooftops in the. Which is surrounding that field.

[Mal]

So this is what I'm saying. It's, it's deeper than this. And, you know, Franklin Roosevelt said, if anything happens in politics, don't think it was a mistake. It was supposed to happen.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So I'm gonna just leave it at that.

[Rory]

And I'm not here to be on the wild conspiracy because I'm not gonna. Alex Jones this because someone did die. And rest in peace to the gentleman that did catch.

[Damaris]

Someone else is in critical condition.

[Rory]

Two, I think are in critical condition, but that was. I'm not here to. To be on that type of like. Oh, he. He put the blood pack from Hollywood on his ear when he felt. I'm not here for.

[Mal]

That's not.

[Rory]

I'm saying Secret Service did not do that as an accident.

[Damaris]

No, they. They did a horrible. They should be fired. Everyone on that detail should be fired.

[Rory]

First of all, I don't think that the.

[Julian]

Trump ain't ducking hard enough for me. Them are standing up looking toward.

[Damaris]

If y'all don't duck, you imagine being the. The gentleman that did get hit in the head and died. Just imagine. Because that had. That must have happened back here on this riser. Just being in that area.

[Rory]

The witness next to him said he got hit in the head and died instantly.

[Damaris]

Instantly. Yeah.

[Mal]

Because.

[Damaris]

And that's in trouble. I'm not trying to bait you into an argument. The caliber of the weapon that this man was. The kid was shooting from. If Trump was hit by the bullet, he would have died instantly. I think the tempered glass, which you can see here. I'll move the cursor. These are obviously on both sides for bulletproof reasons. I think it nicked that. And the glass from that hit Trump in the ear and at a high enough power caliber to rip some of his ear off.

[Rory]

I don't know. Because I've saw both sides of that.

[Damaris]

I don't.

[Rory]

I think there could be a world where a high caliber could.

[Damaris]

You're losing a limb.

[Rory]

Hit the side of your ear.

[Mal]

Whatever. Whatever. It was. The. The thing that I was part of.

[Rory]

The wig would have definitely came off, too, though.

[Mal]

Whatever.

[Damaris]

It was his life.

[Mal]

The fact that people were laughing about this, joking about this.

[Rory]

Laugh about everything, though.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's. But that's a problem.

[Rory]

I agree. But that's just the Internet, like.

[Mal]

Yeah, but that's.

[Rory]

Then we're picking and choose. They laugh at mass shootings when children are cats.

[Mal]

That's. And that goes back to what I said about the fact that people are so desensitized.

[Rory]

Yeah. For sure.

[Mal]

And that everything is a joke and people really don't Give a fuck. Like there were people that were saying, oh damn, he missed. What? Like how is that something that people are even saying? Like the thing I, with all of this shit, the thing that I don't understand is what did Trump do to where. Because again, I never remember people being this involved in politics or caring this much about presidential candidates. Obama was the first for us where we really started even caring about voting for the president like that, for obvious reasons. But the thing that I don't understand about this hate for Trump is what did Trump do for people to hate him or say when he is an attempt on his life, damn, he missed. What did he do for people to have that type of energy toward him? That's the only thing I'll be trying to figure out when it comes to Trump. What did he do specifically for people to feel like, damn, the shooter missed?

[Damaris]

I mean, well, now you're talking about policies. Yeah, he's implemented in his beliefs, in this, in the, his, you know, the damage he did while he was president.

[Rory]

Because there was.

[Damaris]

I really don't want to have that.

[Rory]

No manifesto was found. This kid, this 20 year old kid didn't have social media. No one, he was a registered Republican, according to the news that way, like.

[Mal]

He'S a registered Republican. He never voted. So he's only 20 years old. Four years ago he wouldn't even been able to vote in the President. 16.

[Damaris]

I'm just glad he's white.

[Mal]

So like that's even that he's a registered Republican?

[Rory]

I can't answer that.

[Mal]

What does that mean? He never even voted. He's, he's 20 years old.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you can have a political opinion even though you're not registered to vote. That's not a nuanced take. You can have a political opinion, but.

[Mal]

My thing is what point, what, what point does it make for them to point that out? It means nothing, okay? It means fucking nothing that he's a Republican. What fucking difference does it make if he's a Republican or Democrat? What fucking difference does that make?

[Rory]

I feel like with the earlier attempts and assassinations of presidents later down the line, we did find out particular reasons. Even though they still have suppressed a lot of the JFK files. We understand that there was a lot going on between Russia, between the mob. There were so many other reasons for JFK to be killed. But at that current moment, no one was running around knowing everything. If we look at the mass shootings now and the manifestos that are left that are still political based. The gentleman in Buffalo let Me call him gentlemen. That piece of. In Buffalo.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

His manifesto being super far right, being.

[Damaris]

A QAnon guy went to the superstore, the supermarket.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

The mental health issues now with mass shootings. I'm not saying it's the case here. Are could be tied way more to assassination attempts on presidents than before. Before, I think it was policies. Now I think everyone's just on the Internet losing their fucking mind, trying to play for the right team. So, yeah, I don't know if this is gonna. If this turns out to be what they're saying on the news. I could see this kid just being mentally fucking ill. I don't think he had some real grudge against Trump or a policy. I just think he's probably mentally fucking ill. The way a lot of these mass shootings are going, I don't think it's as political as it used to be. Yeah, jfk, you get a whole list of why he had to go. And it was. None of it was emotional. It was specific reasons why he had to go. His brother, reasons he had to go. You may disagree with him, but reasons he had to go. Whether it be Trump or Biden or whatever. Yeah, you could find reasons for both of them. But I don't think that's what this is.

[Mal]

I think that either way, whatever it comes to this, I think it's. It just says a lot about where this country is. It's unfortunate that a presidential candidate is. His life. It was an attempt on his life. I think that it's, you know, it's a time for people to start thinking about a lot of things, a lot of policies, issues, and, you know, where people are as far as their own personal emotions and things like that. This is a. This is a sad, sad situation because if this, you know, God willing, you know, and thankfully, it wasn't fatal, but if this was a fatal. A fatal shooting on the former president.

[Rory]

She would have been in HD live.

[Mal]

What does that say about the country? Like, what happens to the country at that point? I believe there's a civil war that comes from that. I believe a lot of people start rioting, fighting, killing.

[Rory]

Because I think that's gonna happen more because he survived it.

[Mal]

No, I don't think so. I think that if former President Trump was killed on that stage, it would have been a huge, huge issue and problem in this country.

[Rory]

The same way this kid probably had mental health issues. If we're believing what the news is telling us, I think the same thing could happen on the flip coin of a mentally ill Kid with a rifle looking at Trump with a bloody face saying, fight, fight, fight. I'm not condemning Trump for saying that. He just got shot at, like, adrenaline going. I'm not condemning him for that. But I know a mentally ill kid is on the right that loves Trump and has access to AR15s. I think he interpreted that fight, fight, fight, for real. I think it's going to get way.

[Julian]

Yeah, I agree.

[Rory]

The fact that he survived it, to me feels like a civil war really could come. Now.

[Mal]

What do you, what do you, what do you, what do you think he meant by fight?

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Julian]

It's not about what he.

[Rory]

I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm saying how somebody could interpret that, especially if they have mental health problems and access to this amount of guns.

[Mal]

Well, when you, once you throw mental.

[Rory]

Health, because we've clearly seen that already.

[Mal]

It doesn't matter what it is. Once you say mental health, no matter what it is, if somebody has a mental health problem, it doesn't matter what it is. It's going to be a problem if you put a gun in that person's hand.

[Rory]

And I'm not getting on a January 6th debate with you at all. I've seen how people interpret Trump's words as is, or even when he was telling the proud boys stand by. I know how people could interpret something even if Trump didn't mean it. I know how his base, his core fan base can interpret that type of shit. So you're telling me their God has a bloody face and a fist in the air screaming, fight, fight, fight, after he just survived an assassination attempt? Oh, they're ready to fight and they have guns and they're stupid.

[Mal]

Fight who?

[Rory]

Anyone that's not on their way that.

[Damaris]

It doesn't agree with them.

[Mal]

How many people died at the, the riot at the Capitol Hill is that.

[Rory]

One a police officer died and then another person died shortly after of a stroke that they say was somewhat related?

[Damaris]

No, that one woman that died, the dumbass that tried to go into the.

[Rory]

Yeah. And then a police officer died a few days later. But, yeah, so one woman was killed there on scene.

[Damaris]

This, to me, I mean, so all.

[Mal]

These proud boys that people say Trump riled.

[Rory]

I'm not saying proud boys in particular. I'm not saying any specific group in particular outside of a Trump supporter. Not in their little subgroups, not Def Jam south, not like into those different categories. I'm saying just Trump supporters in general. And I think if this was on the flip side, I mean, I think Biden would get, you know, knocked out by a cool breeze instead of a bullet. But if that was flipped, there's mentally ill people on the left, too. And if Biden said, fight, fight, fight, I think they do the same fucking thing.

[Mal]

I just think that either way, whichever side, whichever candidate you support, I think this is an American problem. I think this is. This is a problem in America. This is a problem with our society. I think it exposes us for being so divisive. I think it exposes us for being so stupid, so care. So we just don't care. Like I said, we so desensitized to shit. Just the amount of people that just were, like, upset that he wasn't killed, the amount of people that were laughing, the amount of people that. It just says a lot, man. And, you know, again, politics, you could pick the side you want to pick. That's, you know, that's your right, whatever. But at the end of the day, seeing a former president's life, you know, somebody attempt to take his life and kill him, I mean, you know, we grew up reading about shit like that in our history books. You know what I mean? Like, we never. This is the first time I've been alive to see an attempt on a president, a former president's life.

[Rory]

Same.

[Mal]

I've never seen him. Well, no. Reagan.

[Damaris]

You didn't catch Reagan.

[Rory]

Mall.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you were there.

[Mal]

Reagan. But I was young, though. That was, what, 80? What you didn't catch Reagan probably was, like, 84.

[Rory]

You was busy that day.

[Mal]

85. I was a kid. I was like, three years old. I don't really.

[Damaris]

81.

[Mal]

I probably wasn't even born yet. That was March.

[Damaris]

March 80. March 30th.

[Mal]

I wasn't even born yet.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but you knew.

[Mal]

I knew I was in a womb.

[Damaris]

You felt it.

[Mal]

I heard it.

[Rory]

Could feel your mom.

[Julian]

I heard it.

[Rory]

Your mom's stress level.

[Mal]

I heard it.

[Damaris]

The aftershock.

[Mal]

But I'm just saying, like, this is the first time in any of our lives that we've seen a former president.

[Damaris]

Oh, we had the Bush with the shoe.

[Rory]

That was some good movement, that nigga said. And then the second one came. He was like, all right.

[Damaris]

And then my favorite part of that video is when his detail comes to. To come by his aid, Bush waves him off.

[Rory]

He said, I'm cool.

[Damaris]

Yeah. He literally just waves. It's the most. Like, I say what you want about.

[Julian]

Bush, but this is the most player.

[Damaris]

Watch it. Watch when the. This gentleman, he waves him off. Stay away.

[Rory]

It's how calm he is for the second one. That really.

[Mal]

Second one. It wasn't no second one, was it?

[Damaris]

Yeah, there was.

[Rory]

He threw two shoes.

[Damaris]

There were two here, look, one. And then. Watch his man stop baller.

[Julian]

But, yeah, I, I get what. I get what you're saying. Well, I, I, for one will say that I am extremely desensitized, but I think it's just because you say that everybody cares about politics these days and things like that. I think people care about the politicians. I. I know plenty of people who do actually care about politics. There are people who are down here doing the groundwork, who really do care about the policies and things, but a lot of people just don't like the presidential candidates and they're embarrassed for them. And I think a lot of people have just kind of emotionally pulled out of it. Like, there are some people who are dedicated to hate and drunk. There are some people who are dedicated to hate and Biden, but the majority of the people that I come into contact and I'll say my community are just like. So I just. I want this to be over kind of thing.

[Mal]

Yeah, But I've. You could be people that you hear against Biden. I never heard anybody call or ask or hope that Biden is killed or shot.

[Julian]

Well, I mean, because I think he's.

[Rory]

You underestimate how insane Trump's fan bases. I'm not talking about. I'm talking about his fan base, his fans.

[Mal]

All right, but you keep saying his.

[Rory]

Fans, they want Biden to die. They tweet about it constantly.

[Mal]

You talking about what somebody is tweeting? I'm talking about actively outside at Biden rallies, doing like.

[Rory]

It wouldn't be hard.

[Mal]

When. When have we. When have we seen it?

[Rory]

I mean, we haven't. We just talked about it. We haven't. I've never seen it period, in my lifetime.

[Mal]

I'm talking about people online saying, we want Biden to die.

[Rory]

I'm sure if you typed in those keywords on. On X right now, I don't think so. It'd be there. And Elon.

[Julian]

It's definitely.

[Mal]

I've never seen it.

[Julian]

Well, that's because it's not sure.

[Mal]

I've never. I've never seen it. And I'm on the Internet. I've never seen people saying, we want to kill Biden. I've never seen it. But you can never seen.

[Damaris]

You.

[Rory]

You understand the Internet, though?

[Mal]

Do I understand the Internet? You do, Yeah, I understand.

[Rory]

So do you think there's people online that say they want to kill Joe Biden.

[Mal]

There's people online and say they want to kill me.

[Rory]

I know.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So they definitely.

[Mal]

I'm talking about the, the, the, the fan base that you speak of. The Trump fan base, the proud boys, whoever. Where are they at? Marching in the streets of America saying death to Biden.

[Rory]

They were just in New Orleans in Nazi office.

[Mal]

That video saying death to Biden.

[Rory]

No.

[Mal]

Oh, okay, that's. But that's what I'm speaking to. Never seen it. But when Trump gets shot at, people are mad that he didn't die. People are saying he staged it. It's like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Why would he stage that? Somebody explained to me why Donald Trump would stage this. Tell me what he gains from staging it.

[Julian]

Okay, well, if I was Olivia, he.

[Damaris]

Just won the election.

[Julian]

If I was Olivia, he won the election.

[Mal]

Before this.

[Damaris]

This is like a 4,0 sweep.

[Mal]

Cut the, bro. They asking for Biden to step down. They asking. Your brother's asking for Biden to step down.

[Damaris]

I mean, Trump won this. I've said for months, Trump is going to win this election.

[Mal]

I'm not saying, I'm saying this is.

[Damaris]

The, this is like, this is like, this is.

[Mal]

We know what this is. I'm talking about before this. Before this, we knew that Biden was.

[Damaris]

Not winning, which we've all agreed on.

[Mal]

Right. So what I'm saying is why would people say Trump staged this? What would he gain out of staging an attempt on his life? What would he gain from it?

[Rory]

I don't, I'm not here to say that he staged anything yet you said.

[Mal]

That in the chat when it happened.

[Rory]

Yeah, it was five minutes after and we had literally no information whatsoever. I also didn't know someone else died. So we were in a.

[Mal]

So say we don't know any of this.

[Rory]

First of all, group chat politics. We're allowed to say things we would not say publicly because we shooting this shit in there.

[Mal]

That's a fact. But what I'm saying is bringing up.

[Julian]

Shit we said in a group chat.

[Rory]

Yeah, come on. Don't put shit I said in a group chat and put it on here. Cuz, you know we be joking in the group chat.

[Mal]

It doesn't matter. What I'm saying is you said it regardless. If we have this information five minutes.

[Rory]

After, I was like, this looks.

[Mal]

So let's speak stage.

[Rory]

Just me because they're holding him up.

[Mal]

Okay, so let's speak to that. What would he gain from. From stage. Well, okay.

[Damaris]

And I'm saying one piece of evidence Pause real quick. When after Reagan got shot at, this is the biggest landslide in election history. He had a 489 electoral votes to Jimmy Carter's 49. This was the map.

[Rory]

People like Jimmy Carter.

[Damaris]

This was the map of the election after he was attempted shot at. It's like, this is like a guaranteed you win.

[Mal]

So you said. So you're saying that would be the reason he was staged. Because looking back at when, when, when Reagan got shot, he basically won the election after he got shot.

[Damaris]

Further, I don't think this is stage thing. Everything that played out is exactly what happened. But I'm saying to the people that would argue that what staging this would do would just guarantee you the win.

[Rory]

And if that's it, if you have a candidate that looks extremely frail, has no idea what's going on at all, and then you have the other candidate get shot, stand up and be like, yo, you. Yeah, that's a nail in the coffin. Election over, you win.

[Mal]

So he.

[Rory]

It's done.

[Mal]

So. So he staged this. Because we're not saying why people believe that. By not. I'm asking a general question. So people would feel like he staged this because based off of the Reagan shooting. Not Reagan, basically, but he basically cleaned up the election.

[Rory]

This, this would be the final moment to happen after that debate. Clear win. Now you have someone that can barely stand up versus someone that got shot and then stood right up and said fuck you, and put his fist up and walked away. Yeah, that's the candidate I think I'd want to. If I'm in the middle and don't really know who to pick. As an impressionable American. Yeah, that would probably be the final answer for me. I think I'm going to go with a guy that can take a bullet instead of one that can't even think straight.

[Julian]

I encourage everyone to go out and do your own research. Please don't listen to us. Respectfully, we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.

[Rory]

Big facts.

[Julian]

So please go out and do your own research and look up who you want to vote for. And it is about policies. It is not about the men. Julian is very correct in that, because Trump's Supreme Court is the reason why you can't get an abortion in Texas right now. So just be. Be. And I'm not pro Trump, pro Biden, pro Democr, Democrat, pro Republic or anything, but fuck the racism. Racism is racism. Everybody's fucking racist. Fuck the racism. Care about the policies that will actually affect you in your life and go vote for who you need to vote for.

[Rory]

More importantly, the man that can unify our country.

[Julian]

Oh, please.

[Rory]

The only one we can look to in these trying times right now. White Savior Marshall Mathers, AKA well, rest in peace to Slim Shady.

[Mal]

Yes. First and foremost, this weekend, let's pay.

[Rory]

Lost an icon.

[Mal]

Yes. Not Trump.

[Rory]

Did. Did Hawk two On his grave. On the intro.

[Mal]

I'm gonna be honest. When it. When it started with that, I almost cut it off. I'm gonna be honest. Cause I heard that, I was like, yo, don't give me the social media algorithm bar. Like, don't. Don't start with the Hawk tour. Don't do that.

[Julian]

That.

[Mal]

Don't do that.

[Rory]

Do we think M may have just had that on the intro already?

[Mal]

No.

[Rory]

And then shorty just came out.

[Mal]

No, no.

[Rory]

You can't see Eminem spitting. Okay, fine.

[Damaris]

You think she did it? You think he had her coming to the booth?

[Rory]

No, it's definitely him.

[Mal]

I think he reached out, you know. You know, he tried to get it done.

[Damaris]

You know, that's M throat.

[Mal]

But her schedule was slammed.

[Rory]

Well, on Thursday night at midnight, we all stayed up. We all were dead for the greatest rap album of all time, the death of Slim Shady, AKA what is it? Creme de la creme Bon Bivar.

[Damaris]

Coup de gras.

[Rory]

Did we forgot what that meant?

[Mal]

Coup de grace.

[Julian]

Yeah, Coup de grasp.

[Mal]

Didn't Ransom have a song titled that or album?

[Rory]

Probably. He just probably explained it better.

[Mal]

Probably.

[Damaris]

A coup de gras is a final blower shot given to kill a wounded person or animal. Okay, okay. That makes sense in the concept of.

[Mal]

Tried to coop degree my Trump the other day.

[Damaris]

If only.

[Rory]

Coup de grumbaya.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Why didn't M flip that?

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Rory]

All right, jokes aside, did you guys listen to this album? I listened to it as well one time because, again, I was upstate around family, on the car ride, Kia and Amara didn't want to hear creme de la creme.

[Mal]

This is not that. This is not for the family.

[Damaris]

No, come de grasp.

[Mal]

It's not a family friendly album.

[Rory]

So I listened to it this morning. Twice. Once on the way here.

[Mal]

Morning.

[Rory]

Once in the crib, and then once. Once on the train. I was trying to get, you know, different environments.

[Mal]

You got on the train to try to get. You tried to get the essence. You really tried to get.

[Rory]

Nothing about. This is training.

[Mal]

You rode the subway trying to get the essence.

[Rory]

A large professor didn't. Didn't produce on this.

[Mal]

You tried to go back to your youth, your childhood days.

[Rory]

Yeah, I definitely had had the. The CD player and the Walkman.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Listening to Marshall Mathers LP on the train, for sure. But no, I just took the train here.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

I was gonna take the train regardless. I didn't do it to try to get in the.

[Mal]

Mm. Okay. Okay. I thought you was trying to, like, like, restore the feeling a little bit.

[Rory]

No parking is $40 an hour over here.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I don't. I don't park over here anymore. Where do we begin? I'm not coming in here with a bunch of hate.

[Julian]

Just a little hate.

[Mal]

I did. I wasn't. I didn't.

[Rory]

For me, hate. I didn't hate the album, but I'm not. I'm not doing that either. He. He tried. This is the better M album since recovery. Out of all the. The kamikazes, the. Everything he tried to do, however many years, this is definitely the better one. It does still scream out of touch. Like you just explaining how you should be canceled for 17 songs.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Rory]

It's just like, nah, I don't know if I need that. There was two Bruce Jenner jokes on every song. And like, listen, you want to make some trans jokes? Have a blast. Your Eminem in the Slim Shady character. What would Slim Shady say in these sensitive times? Like, get some new material.

[Julian]

Nobody's check for Bruce.

[Rory]

Even Bizarre made a Bruce Jenner joke. Like, how many does anyone care about Bruce Jenner anymore? No, I'm sorry. Caitlyn Jenner.

[Julian]

No one gives a rat's ass.

[Rory]

It just felt extremely out of touch. The way people kill Chappelle for his transgender stuff is how to. I started to feel them on this M album. Like, yeah, I get it. Get in your. Your Slim Shady bag and make some transgender jokes. But every goddamn song.

[Mal]

Yeah, I mean, I said it when Eminem's. Was it the song or something came out a few months ago. I don't know if M's lifestyle is just interesting enough or if he doesn't share it through his music, but I. Like you said, it's just out of touch. It's a lot of social media kind of topics. And you know who's gonna cancel me. Gen Z. Like, it's like, bro, I don't. That's just not what I want to hear. Like, it's not much replay value in those type of songs or those type of bars for me. Now, we. Obviously, nobody's Eminem can rap. We know that he can put words together with the best of them. We know that. It's always been a content for me personally, it's always been the content, and the music has been the issue for me.

[Rory]

He slowed down some flows, too, which I was happy about, because I actually like when M raps slower than when he raps super fast. Of course, he has that on here. But compared to his last two or three albums, finally, like, we got some regular verses from him. I think the second record I liked, Habits, was cool. Habits was, like, a good way to address that. I'm Slim Shady now in this era. Yeah, he just leaned all the way into it for the next 19 records. That was really my biggest problem. And when Em gets in his commercial bag, I always hate his beats. So, again, the music production didn't land on my ears the way I like. Shit, I still want the Eminem rap nerd album, because I know he is a rap nerd. To finally do his primo album, to finally sit with Pete, to, like, really do that. I thought maybe we'd get that here. But no, we got a bunch of the. The poppy Eminem beats. But I'll give him grace because he said he was going in as a Slim Shady character and killing him. So he gave us what Slim Shady would do in 2024. That was the concept, so how could I be mad? Yeah, he set out the gate. This is Slim Shady. We're killing him. 2024. This is what he'd sound like.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Rory]

So, yeah, for what he set out to do, cool. It wasn't bad.

[Mal]

I. I went into. Really, for me, I went into it feeling like I was gonna hate it. I went into it like I was gonna be like, yo, turn this off. And it wasn't that. Like, it was okay. But again, it's not much replay value for me. I won't. I can't see myself going back to it and listening to a bunch of the songs on there. Like, I listened to it. I understand what he was doing. Like, you said, killing Slim Shady, but it's just not. It's not a lot of replay value in the music for me. It's just not. I think it's Eminem still can rap, still in shape lyrically and all of that, but I just. The music has. I can't. I don't know where I would listen or play this music, but I was.

[Rory]

Trying to think from, like, the view of his lifelong fan base. To me, I feel like this is kind of their black album.

[Mal]

This is his fan base's black.

[Rory]

They're gonna clip that up.

[Mal]

Yeah. No.

[Rory]

Rory says that Eminem, death of Slim Shady, is The Black Album.

[Mal]

Yeah. You gotta explain that. Expound on that.

[Rory]

This is the. Not to say Jay Z was a character by any means, but the whole HOV is retiring scheme, I think, is similar to the death of Slim Shady. They got all of the slim shit that they would want in one album. Here you go. This is my retirement of this character. So I think to his core fan base. Yeah, this is they shit. He talked about his mother's vagina. Like, come on. He got. He checked all the boxes.

[Mal]

Legendary stuff. Yeah. The legendary bar.

[Rory]

Yeah. He. He disgraced women for an hour straight and then had a love song to Haley. Like, this is classic M. Yeah. What did. What did everyone expect?

[Mal]

Listen, I. I thought I was gonna hate it. I don't hate it.

[Rory]

I don't hate it either.

[Mal]

I don't hate it. But it's just. I don't. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna be honest. I'm not gonna probably ever go back to it and listen to it, but I don't hate it. And I know that sounds like I hate it because I'm not going back to it, but it's just that I just don't.

[Rory]

Like, I wish I could word it better, but I have the exact same sentiment as you. When I got to track 19, I was like, that was cool.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I don't ever listen to again.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna listen to it again. I'm not gonna go back to it. But it's. Where do I listen? Do I listen to this in the gym? Do I listen to this on the car ride? Do I listen to this? Like, I just don't just put this on, like, as. As background music when I'm cleaning the cr. Like, what do. Where do you play? Because you can't play this music, like, because there's a lot of offensive shit in here. So you can't play this, like, around a bunch of people when they come to the crib. Like, yo, that's what you listening to.

[Rory]

Throwing this on at the crib, at the gym.

[Mal]

Like, when we go to the rooftop, you find yourself. You can't play this on the rooftop.

[Rory]

No, the three of us, when we.

[Julian]

Go out, if you play that shit, and I'm gonna throw you off the rooftop.

[Mal]

This ain't rooftop music. That's what I'm saying is this workout music. I maybe could recite some of these bars in between a set, right?

[Julian]

Hey, guys, it's okay to just say, it ain't it. It ain't it.

[Mal]

And that's. No, but it Wasn't again, I thought.

[Rory]

For what he set out to do, he did. No, he smoked what he was trying to do.

[Mal]

He hit the mark on what he was.

[Julian]

If I set out. If I tell you set out to.

[Rory]

Be Slim Shady, the character in 2024, he nailed it.

[Julian]

If I tell y'all, I just don't.

[Rory]

Like that character anymore.

[Julian]

I'm putting out a record of me like. You know what I'm saying? Just, like, farting straight after beans, like refried beans. I'm just gonna put out an album in me fart. And then y'all hear it be like, well, she set out. She did what she set out to do.

[Rory]

It better. It better sound like refried beans farts and not another food that you ate.

[Mal]

I can't be mad at you.

[Julian]

The point is, if y'all heard this from an artist and y'all didn't know who they were, and y'all. Somebody put this.

[Rory]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't have heard it.

[Julian]

Y'all would have said if. If Julia came in and said, yo, my man's make music. Let me put this on for y'all. Y'all would have said, turn this the off. Correct.

[Mal]

I mean, if he was rapping like this, like, with the bars and the flows, and I'll be like, yo, he could rap, but I. I can't listen to it. When am I gonna listen to this? It'll be the same. Like, he could obviously put words together. He could obviously rap.

[Rory]

This is, like, for, like, Russian chat rooms and, like, young kids that.

[Mal]

I don't know what that means.

[Rory]

Just, like, people that are into shock, weird shit. Like, I feel like they post, like, YouTube videos of people dying and being murdered. Those chat rooms, okay?

[Julian]

Middle America, young boys in their cars.

[Rory]

Because, like, the younger generation outside of that community, you know, is offended by this type of. Which he told us on every goddamn song. I just don't know who his fan base is anymore. Even though he had, I think, Spotify said, the biggest first day in 2024 of an album.

[Julian]

Yeah, he's. So I think they're saying he's on track to go number one, possibly.

[Rory]

I'm sure he's Eminem. But to Mall's question, the kids that are not the kids, because I'm not a kid anymore. I found out today I was the older cousin killing the vibe. I could see that over the weekend.

[Mal]

I could see that.

[Rory]

My oldest cousin, who was older said, yo, you hanging out with the young. You know, you're the old cousin now, killing the Vibe. So my age group, we could only listen to this in the car. I think.

[Mal]

I wouldn't, but, I mean, yeah, maybe that's probably the people I.

[Rory]

At 34 years old, I grew up on M. I was 10 when Marshall Mathers LP came out. If I was a lifelong fan of his, I don't know where I would listen to this at 34 years old. Yeah, it would have to be in the car by myself.

[Mal]

Yeah. This is just not. I'm past this music, I guess these type of bars and these. This. These type of concepts. Like, I'm just. I don't know. I'm just not. I don't want to hear about, you know, transsexual bars and gay and this. And I get it, because that's what Slim Shady does. He offends and he's, you know, he tries to be, you know, push that, toe the line on what's offensive and. And what's not. And I don't care if you try to cancel me. Good. That's what I want. I want you to cancel that whole thing. I get it, but it's just not where I'm at.

[Julian]

I don't get it. Because then you come out and apologize when got you on tape saying. Making songs saying bigger when you.

[Rory]

If you listen to the album on guilty conscious two, instead of going back and forth with Dr. Dre, Marshall goes back and forth with Slim Shady. And Slim Shady was suggesting that he's been for the second half of his career in that you need to be more like me as Slim and, like, offend people. I made you. I am who you are.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So Marshall, like, you over here apologizing, like, caring about women and shit, like, it's not what we got in the game for, baby.

[Mal]

Right?

[Rory]

We here to kill rape.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

This is our thing.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So you should listen to Guilty Conscious too. It has all the answers there.

[Julian]

I have enough of a guilty consciousness. I don't need to hear nobody else's.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm cool. I'm cool. But again, he set out to do. He did what I think he set out to do as far as the concept and, you know, keeping it on brand with that. But it's just. I'm. I'm. I'm past this type of music. I'm gonna be honest. I don't. I don't care to ever really listen to this type of rap.

[Rory]

And as much as I think the slim shady in 2024 would be scared of cancel culture. Eminem, Marshall, Slim, whoever you are in this whole thing, You've never been canceled ever. Can you stop saying all you've been doing? Like, yo, everyone doesn't like me.

[Damaris]

No, you've only gone number one.

[Rory]

You're probably one of the most popular artists of our. Of our generation.

[Mal]

But Eminem is not. He's not. You never cancel Eminem. He's uncanny.

[Rory]

His offensive things were number one on trl. They had to retire the videos because they were playing them too much.

[Mal]

Yeah. So he's not.

[Rory]

You were never.

[Mal]

I think he kind of played to that when he said it was, you gonna cancel? Who's gonna cancel? Me? Gen Z or something like that.

[Rory]

He said it on every other song.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, he's not. He doesn't care. He knows he can't be canceled. But again, it's just. This is not my type of music. I'm sorry. I can't listen to that. I'm just. I'm in a different place as far as the rap. I want to hear the type of bars. I want to hear the music that I'm into. I'm just not. I'm not with that. That sound.

[Julian]

Well, if you care about the type of music that we are into, that mall is into. Go check out My Karma Is Beautiful.

[Mal]

My Karma Is Beautiful. New episode available now. Nick Grant. The Nick Grant episode is out now. Shout out to Nick Grant. Shout out to Rel. Rel did a great job of shooting. And yomi. Shout out to Rel. Yomi did a great job of shooting and editing. That look good. Yeah, came out good and it sounded great.

[Rory]

Just quickly, before we move on from music, some good old contemporary, adult rap. Common. Pete Rock Project is great.

[Mal]

Oh, I didn't hear it.

[Rory]

Commons rapping, rapping on there. And Pete is Pete. So, yeah, this is why I think hip hop is in a great place. Cause you have people that are older and seeing the genre grow in age. Yeah, you're still gonna have Eminem raping his mom.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But the same exact Friday, I can go listen to Common and Pete Rock.

[Mal]

Beautiful world we live in.

[Rory]

So what are we complaining about?

[Mal]

Yeah, if that's for you, it's there. That music is there. But I'm just over here with. I'm over here with Larry June and Alchemist and Freddie Gibbs. I'm doing. That's what I'm Don Tolliver. Yeah, yeah. I'm over here, man. I ain't. I'm not doing that.

[Rory]

Do you think Em dissed us? I think it was on the second record. He said something about the gingers and rearranging it into the N word. I felt like we. We caught a little shot.

[Mal]

Oh, the gingers. Yeah, he came. He threw a shot at y'all.

[Rory]

I know. I thought he was taking a shot at both of us because he definitely dissed Julian on the intro as far as complainers. And then, yeah, he got right in, pinned me. Second record. A word like ginger into the N word.

[Damaris]

Just made fun of your sign off, Maul.

[Mal]

Yo, em, what's up with you, dawg?

[Julian]

You think you could beat Eminem?

[Mal]

Fist fight Eminem.

[Julian]

Do you think you can beat Eminem in a fist fight? Yes.

[Mal]

Which M am I fighting? Him and Slim Shade?

[Damaris]

Slim Shady or just stabbing current?

[Julian]

Current M M with the black hoodie?

[Mal]

He might be the only person that stay in the house more than I do, so. Nah, he probably could be. He probably. He'd probably win that. I feel like Eminem stay in the house. Like, he's like the accountant. Like, he's practicing a different type of martial arts. Like, he's on that type of time. Yeah, yeah, he's on that. He's on that type of time. Yeah. You don't want to fight a that. Stay in the house as much as Eminem.

[Rory]

And I feel like anyone that still wears those air maxes and you know the ones I'm talking about.

[Damaris]

Yeah, he could fight in that hat, that kango, the conductor hat.

[Rory]

Yeah. And he's one of those that, like, he's not gonna pop it off, but he will finish the fight.

[Mal]

No, he. You fight somebody, you gotta fight. You gotta be willing to die because he's not gonna stop shot. I know them type of dudes. Like, it's to the death with them. Like, don't break it up. Somebody gotta die here tonight. I don't know if I'm ready to do that.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

So I'm cool.

[Damaris]

I made it seven songs.

[Mal]

Listen to seven songs.

[Julian]

I feel like that's good for Julian. Julian hates Eminem. So seven songs in. You tried. You did your.

[Mal]

He ain't get the whole concert.

[Damaris]

Like, to me, the way in which you guys just said the beautiful thing about being a consumer is you can just listen to that. You like?

[Julian]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Damaris]

I thought as a critic, I should at least just look into it and give it a chance. It's like, it's not for anyone in this room. It's definitely not for me as well. I really wanted to give it a fair shot. But after listening to, like, the 6, 7 song in. And he just keeps re explaining the concept, I'm like, I Get it? Stop. Like, edging offensive things. If you're going to be offensive, then just say the offensive thing. Like the. The second song in particular was like. For me, really indicative of the whole project, where he was like. Like, what do you say? Here's a. I. I liked this. Like, using the F word for gay is wrong and offensive. What? And insecurities are. Saying the R word isn't what. Wait a minute. Which R word? Rape or retarded? You're just saying words that trigger people. You're not actually rat. Like, this isn't skill. You're just saying words.

[Mal]

Don't react.

[Rory]

Yeah, no, he put the. He did a carbon impression between them.

[Mal]

Yeah. And then. Oh, the.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah, the south park impression. Like, what you're not.

[Rory]

That's classic Slim Shady, though. You do that all the time.

[Julian]

You guys ignored. Be in the group chat.

[Damaris]

Like, offensive words.

[Julian]

Every time I write in a group chat, y'all ignore me. But the. I'm like a R, A P, R. I got so many essays. Essays. Wait, he didn't just spell the world. He didn't just spell the. Spell the word rapper and leave out a P, did he? Like, I'm like, why y'all ain't. Y'all didn't like that. Them wasn't bars to you.

[Mal]

Nah.

[Julian]

You don't get the P. Diddy, rapper raper. You ain't get it.

[Mal]

I got it. I got it. I understood what you were saying.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

First time.

[Rory]

But then, like, the Slim Shady character, I think, is the first album that he's done it all the way through to just show how annoying the Slim Shady character is. Am I starting to sound like a stand now? Like, you guys don't understand the genius of it. Like, you used to. Got used to get some of Slim Shady.

[Mal]

Yep.

[Rory]

On, like, the Eminem albums we love, you get some Slim records, and then you get Eminem records. Like, there would be a good balance. This is how annoying this character is. Every song. Like, to what Julian's saying, you're just saying offensive shit to just say it.

[Damaris]

Just the start of this.

[Rory]

The M songs we love is Eminem the rapper, and then that other corny shit is Slim the character. But that was kind of the point in the beginning. Slim wasn't being serious with that type of shit. He was being a character.

[Mal]

I get it. I. Okay, so let's speak to that character. I don't care to hear that.

[Rory]

Thank God he's dead.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't ever care to hear that character anymore.

[Damaris]

Like this. I know this is kind of like one of the sketch skits. Sketches in the beginning, which is one of the ones I heard and does the whole thing. Drink this.

[Rory]

Sorry. Not. Not to cut you off. The laziest Eminem skits of all time.

[Damaris]

This is awful.

[Rory]

They're so. That's my real critique.

[Damaris]

The way. The way this opens is just like. You're not. You're just saying trigger sentences. Fuck blind people and deaf people suck. So do cripples. You dumb quadriplegic. Quadriplegic fucks. It's like. Okay. You're just saying things that would make certain people angry.

[Rory]

All right. Shooting more bail.

[Mal]

That's not a.

[Damaris]

That's not a bad lyric.

[Rory]

He kept bringing up all these Christopher Reeves references.

[Damaris]

He's so.

[Rory]

And I was like, why is he bringing up Chris. Christopher Reeve references? I think he was trying to show how out of touch Slim Shady in this era would be. Like, you're still doing Christopher Reeves bars about horses. Like you're. You're really living in.

[Mal]

So you think that was his angle?

[Rory]

I think his angle was legitimately touched. The character. Yes.

[Damaris]

I think you're shooting him a lot of.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's. That's a lot of. That's a lot of bail and everything.

[Rory]

I'm not saying I'm gonna listen to it again, but I think that's what he was doing with the Slim Shady character. Like.

[Mal]

No, man. I just. I don't. I don't. It's just the. I. I just can't. I can't get into this type of music anymore. I don't. And there's. There's, like. Because Julian is saying that there's no skill to it. There is skill to this. Yeah, there's. There's a lot of skill to this. It's just that I don't. It doesn't speak to me. It doesn't. It doesn't favor what I like to hear. It's not what I like.

[Damaris]

This is skilled.

[Mal]

It's just. I don't know. I just can't. Yes.

[Rory]

Join this. This Dosi Doe record was actually left off.

[Damaris]

Cowboy Carter, Superman, Batman, Spider man slipped, fell.

[Rory]

He wrote this for Beyonce. She didn't take it, so he put it on this album.

[Damaris]

Read this opening.

[Mal]

This is the Superman, Batman, Spider Man Slip fell, landed in a garbage can Hell, damn it, I can hardly stand But I get it cracking like no one in the party can give me a beat I'll show you all a.

[Rory]

Brand new dance this was the worst song.

[Mal]

All I need is a stretch in an ambulance? Yeah. All right. See? Yeah. I'm never going back to this. I'm cool.

[Damaris]

What is that?

[Mal]

Marriage. You all right? There's a lot of bells ringing. We trying to record a podcast.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

I didn't order the Amazon packages.

[Mal]

I'm just saying, I was like, she's right there. That she didn't just press.

[Julian]

He wasn't opening the door.

[Mal]

Oh, it was him.

[Julian]

He's okay.

[Mal]

Amazon workers.

[Julian]

Nobody makes.

[Rory]

I mean, listen, if you love Eminem, I'm glad you got out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm happy.

[Rory]

Yeah. That's all I got.

[Damaris]

Good job. If you're a fan, enjoy.

[Rory]

Honestly, Peach, I know you were ecstatic this whole weekend.

[Damaris]

You said this sucks too.

[Mal]

Damn YouTube, they're.

[Rory]

They're gonna kick him out. The group chat. Don't do that.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm cool on this, but what does this mean for Eminem? Do we want another album from him away from the Slim Shady just said.

[Julian]

He wants his rapidy rap lock in with one producer. So.

[Rory]

No, not locking with one producer. Do your quote unquote real hip hop album with every one of those producers, Al for sure Beat Rock premiere. I'd love for him and Havoc to do something like that era that he always raps about when he does these, like, remember rap songs? Like, why don't you work with these people? Then all you do is rap about how much you love Red Man. Why can't we get you and Pete Rock to do a Red man record? I just don't understand why that. That can't happen.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think that's. I think it's time for like.

[Rory]

Why is there not an Eric Sermon Redman M song?

[Mal]

You gotta change. It's the music, man.

[Damaris]

God, these lyrics are so hooks.

[Mal]

I just.

[Damaris]

Holy.

[Rory]

He also has to stop doing his own hooks.

[Damaris]

I'm just reading around. Also the thing that he does, which I never appreciated, and he's like. I feel like. You know how we always make fun of battle rappers when they like say the bar and then repeated or like, do the like the self acknowledgment. M is the. Yeah, that M is the king of that. Like the calling this sex head with a splash of necrophilia.

[Mal]

What?

[Damaris]

Because when I say I'm really the evilist. I'm dead ass. I'm dead ass. Haha.

[Rory]

That's just ad libs, though.

[Damaris]

So much like he explained, good ad libs just fell in for part the lyric live.

[Mal]

But Julian, I might be throwing him bail with this, but I think that that is part of this Album of Slim Shady saying shit. And Eminem responded to it like, what? Like, I think that's what it could be. I could be throwing him bail. I'm just saying. I think that's what a lot of this. Yeah, you shooting bail could be. Listen, I'm agreeing with you. I could be throwing him bail. But I'm just saying I think that a lot of these bars that you're pointing out, I think it's em. Responded to Slim Shady.

[Julian]

Is Eminem the rapper. The rapper who is given the most bail out of all the rappers?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

I feel like he gets the most bail when it comes to shitty music. Who else gets this much bail and stands at.

[Rory]

I don't think he gets such a high pedestal.

[Mal]

I don't. I don't think he gets bail.

[Rory]

He. He put out. His last three albums are about how much everyone hates his music now. Like.

[Damaris]

And they all go number one.

[Julian]

And on top of that, people still leave him in the top five conversation.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I don't care what he.

[Julian]

Nobody else in this conversation has this much shit music. No one else else in top five, you mean? Yes. Who else? I'll say top ten. Who else has this much music?

[Rory]

I want to say a name, but I'm. I'm kind of scared to say it.

[Julian]

Say it.

[Rory]

I am in the top 10 because I.

[Mal]

That has this much. This many albums that people don't.

[Rory]

Well, top 10 is subjective. But somebody that's thrown in the conversation and it's mainly because he's put out. Out way too much music. Wayne gets a lot of bill.

[Julian]

I knew you were gonna say Wayne.

[Damaris]

Oh, well, you got.

[Julian]

I knew you were gonna say Wayne.

[Rory]

But I don't like fully feel because I'm the one giving Wayne the bail because he's a legend to me and I love Lil Wayne, but. Yeah, he's just put out so much music. There's gonna be a time where some of it isn't up to par or up to Wayne's standard.

[Julian]

Okay, that's up to Wayne standard. I didn't. Music is what I said.

[Rory]

I don't think this is music. It's just not for me.

[Mal]

It's not good music.

[Damaris]

Hey, why are you crying, shorty? Ew. Because I booed you. Well, I'm trying to get some head up in the Subaru, but you have no clue what you're doing, do you?

[Rory]

You don't even know what it's like sleep or something.

[Damaris]

Hello? Yoohoo. Wake up, fake slut. I'm out of here. Screw you.

[Julian]

God. He's so white.

[Damaris]

That's so good. I wish I could.

[Rory]

You forgot the funnier bar. What did you just drop dead in my lap? You call that head?

[Julian]

I suck my dick better than you do. Yeah, I'm sick. Like the terminally ill, but more like sick as the term mentally ill.

[Mal]

They outside 7:11 we're criticizing and talking about.

[Damaris]

Evan. Just read the lyrics into the art itself.

[Mal]

The 711 kids is loving this.

[Rory]

Yeah, somebody just.

[Damaris]

Someone's crushing a monster right now and.

[Rory]

Just bit into a slim. Yo, did you hear that bar?

[Mal]

Yeah, they. This is. They.

[Rory]

No, this is 711 Jerky Rap.

[Damaris]

Someone got a home full of non perishables going crazy to this album.

[Julian]

Stop, Julian, stop. Because that's not funny. Stop. We don't make fun of poor people. Stop.

[Rory]

Somebody was. Somebody was sitting in their unfinished basement and was so depressed after Trump got shot, was like, yo, man, put that M album back on. I need. I need to lift my spirits.

[Mal]

I probably. Nobody said that. Yeah.

[Rory]

You know, Trump supporters love this album.

[Mal]

And the funny shit is he said in the album, like, that's what we gonna do. Shit on it. Tear it apart.

[Julian]

Yeah. Cause you knew it. You know, it's shite.

[Rory]

The albums have been saying that, like, yeah, you can't be number one and do more numbers than everyone. And then the last five albums you have is complaining that no one likes you.

[Mal]

Yeah, I just. It's just the music, man. I just. I can't get with it. Wait, wait.

[Damaris]

Sorry. I haven't looked at anything.

[Mal]

Why you keep dissecting his bar?

[Damaris]

Hold on. Yeah, I walk around more confused than my Aunt Linda's man friend, a black transgender Klansman who's Caitlyn Jenner's fan and.

[Julian]

A member of Grinder and Tinder.

[Damaris]

What the is this?

[Rory]

You're just not seeing the duality of it.

[Damaris]

A black transgender.

[Rory]

And then Grindr is just the gays, but they're also part of Tinder.

[Damaris]

Wait, I kind of do it because I would have had way more jokes. This is so bad. This is a goat.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Nah. Yeah, this is a goat.

[Damaris]

Oh, man, I'm. I'm just happy there's some people out there that enjoy.

[Mal]

I'm surprised Rory said Eminent Wayne, though, though I'm surprised we give him. That's your guy.

[Rory]

I love Wayne. Yeah, we did get. We give him a lot of bail, though. But he's put out more music than I feel like he should have.

[Damaris]

I agree with you on that, Mall. That's been your criticism of Wayne. It's Just too much.

[Mal]

It's too much music. I just feel like a lot of. A lot of Wayne, because when we went to that concert, I just feel like a lot of his. A lot of his songs and records, they didn't age well either.

[Rory]

That's where we disagree. I think his hits have aged fine. It's just Wayne will put out a bunch of music, I think misses that.

[Mal]

I feel like great.

[Julian]

Just that one song out of all of all 3 million.

[Rory]

Really into Bobby Valentino, sounding like a siren.

[Mal]

I think that song's just. It still sounds good. When you put the.

[Rory]

The wheel. Wheel really got to you.

[Mal]

But I think a lot of the other records when we was there at that show, it wasn't hitting. It just wasn't. And I. And I.

[Damaris]

Well, his stage performance is never that great, but then.

[Rory]

But. But Wayne does something that Em doesn't do at this point for me. Like when Em does features, I don't particularly like them.

[Mal]

When he does features.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

I don't particularly care. Wayne for the past two, three years, every time he shows up on somebody's album or song, he's the best verse.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Wayne's features have been top tier as of recent. You could say maybe his full projects haven't hit the same. But when Wayne does show up on a verse, he's right there, there. It's still the Wayne that I remember, so I can't put him in the exact same category.

[Mal]

I mean, I ain't gonna lie, man, that. That last Wayne album dropped, and y'all. Y'all ain't said nothing.

[Rory]

What was the last drop?

[Mal]

Exactly?

[Rory]

See, but my memory.

[Mal]

Your memory?

[Rory]

I'm 34.

[Mal]

Yeah, I know. I know.

[Rory]

What was the last one?

[Mal]

You know what the last one was?

[Rory]

No, I don't.

[Damaris]

No. You really don't? Ah.

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't remember his last album. He just dropped.

[Damaris]

Wayne's latest album was a collaborative album with two chains called welcome to K Grove, which is the second installment of their discography. Wayne, according to Genius, has 57 albums out. So I think we've got a great litmus of 57. That's a lot.

[Rory]

It's definitely not albums. It's mixed well.

[Damaris]

I think that's including his whole catalog. Yeah, Dave's albums.

[Rory]

That makes sense because I didn't even know he had a full joint album with Rich the kid in 2021 called trust fund Babies. I missed that completely. And admittedly I didn't. I think I skimmed through welcome to Collie Grove. Like, I love Two Chains and Wayne.

[Julian]

But you don't need them together.

[Rory]

I don't even mind them together.

[Damaris]

I've never even seen what we talk.

[Rory]

About all the time. It's tough to keep up with music. Like, once that Friday passes and you get to the next one. If you missed it last Friday.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

A year later, you're like, oh, I forgot that even came out. So. No, but Wayne's last album. Album was 2020. Carter 5. I wasn't bad. It's not high in my list of the. The Carters, but, you know, it's better than the death of some shady.

[Mal]

Well, at least, right? We started somewhere. Yeah.

[Julian]

Mona Lisa came on during my run.

[Rory]

Slick, right?

[Mal]

Maris don't know nothing about that.

[Damaris]

Lisa Mooney.

[Julian]

I'm talking about the one with Lil Wayne and Kendrick Lamar.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Oh, he was dissing Kendrick over the weekend, right?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

No, did he on the album?

[Rory]

No, no, he was. He was doing a live show and had his OVO chain on.

[Julian]

Came out like us. They not like us.

[Mal]

They don't like us. I think he said.

[Julian]

Oh, that's what he said.

[Mal]

He said they don't like us. Yeah, they don't like us.

[Damaris]

I think he's saying they don't like us.

[Rory]

I think that's a big reach. Just in general.

[Mal]

I would love to hear the conversations that Wayne is having with Drake about everything that's going on, though.

[Rory]

I mean, I feel like how he handled Nikki with that whole summer jam controversy when they said. When Rosenberg said one word on, like, the parking lot stage and he was like, nah, them you not performing. I feel like Wayne is on some Kendrick Gamarra shit for real. He's, from what we've seen, is a pretty loyal person to his artists. I think he's awesome.

[Mal]

That's not the question. I know.

[Rory]

That's some real fuck Kendrick time.

[Mal]

I don't know if it's fuck Kendrick. I don't. I think that. I think Wayne might be mad that Drake even gave Kendrick that attention.

[Rory]

I could see Wayne having that perspective.

[Mal]

I think he'd be mad that Drake even gave Kendrick that energy. Like, bro, he's. He's not. He's not on your level at all. I think that's Wayne's position on it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, he's not on your level. Like, why would you even.

[Julian]

You know?

[Rory]

But we've seen Wayne out of touch in general, so I think he probably thinks, like, Drake and Nikki are one and two and that's it.

[Mal]

I mean, he's not far off in that thought, though.

[Rory]

We've. We've had that conversation plenty of times of young money versus a lot of clicks.

[Mal]

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Rory]

It's.

[Mal]

That's.

[Rory]

That's a tough three.

[Mal]

But I'm sure. I'm sure Wayne. I'm sure. I mean, his words are probably a lot different than what I'm saying, but I'm sure he's probably like, yo, why would. Why, why, why? Why would you even give him that dance? Like, why would you even open it, clear the dance floor and allow him to even step on the dance floor with you? Like, wow. Why?

[Rory]

Yeah, but Wayne's also. Even though Drake is an elder statesman, for how long he's been in, Wayne is even more elder. So his view of why would you even do that, you're already solidified as a legend, I think is different than Drake, who, even though he's been around a while, is still super active and super in this game, so he's not gonna duck some shit like that.

[Mal]

I think that's what it is too, though. I think after a while, you just being active and being an emcee and, you know, really holding that emcee torch, if anybody comes at you in a certain way, I think that you entertain it. I think that's what Drake's side of it is. I think Wayne is on the side of, man, fuck all that. If niggas ain't on your level, you shouldn't even be entertaining them.

[Rory]

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, and this isn't to discredit Wayne by any means. That was never really his shit to begin with. Yeah, we got fuck Pusha T and everyone that loves him. Yeah, we got a few I'll kidnap your lady money. Like, he's had lines here, and there's not a battle. That's never really been Wayne's thing. Like, he had back and forth with the hot boys, but that was not rap. That's never really been Wayne's thing. So I can see him not even understanding why someone would want to do that. Like, I'm in my own lane, doing my own thing. I don't give a what y'all doing, right? That's not his. And I mean, yeah, he said things with Young Thug, but that wasn't rap. Like, so I just think Wayne is a different perspective. I'm more curious why. But we haven't really heard from J. Prince in the whole Kendrick Drake thing, to be honest.

[Mal]

Well, I've seen some footage of somebody asking J. Prince a few days ago. He was. I don't know if they were at a Game or something. Jay Prince was walking out. Somebody said, yo, what do you think about they not like Us? And J. Prince kind of just waved it off like, man, I ain't paying that no mind. He kind of just waved it off a little bit.

[Rory]

But, I mean, he got heavily involved with the Pusher and Drake situation. Like, he stepped in and kind of deaded it. It's weird that we haven't really heard from him in that regard, especially when he's been actively speaking to Mason Cam. It's not like J. Prince is hiding. He's been. He's been outside talking.

[Mal]

What. What exactly happened with that? I know the whole Shakur Stevenson thing happened. Shakur Stevenson has some words on Twitter for Mason Cam based on their, you know, words about his fight being lackluster and his performance on his last fight. But I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really understand what J. Prince. What did he say or what did he do to get this response?

[Rory]

Stevenson also was replying to literally anyone that was tweeting him at the time as well. Yeah, it wasn't just a came, came and Mace thing, but J. Prince did one of, you know, his. His classic rants specifically to them that he does, you know, once every few years.

[Mal]

So J. Prince posted the numbers from the Shakur Stevenson fight. He says, let the. Let the haters say that he's boring and nobody wants to watch him. Sorry to tell you, it's just a select few of you haters. As you can see, there's proof that he has the number one ratings in any fight on ESPN this year and the top three ratings since 2022. And to all you haters who want to escalate that hate outside of the ring, I'm Shakur's manager, and I handle all his business outside of the ring. In other words, camp. That's funny. You went right into. In other words, Cam and Mace. I will fade all his shot. I will trade. Trade or fade. I will fade all his shots and take all bets.

[Rory]

Could have just ended with that sentence to start.

[Mal]

Listen, as you know, if that's your. Your, you know, your client and you know, J. Prince has all right to step in and hold his client down and come with the facts with numbers and things like that. I respect that part of it, but I also respect what May said as far as, like, you know, I stand behind what I said, and I don't even understand. I don't even think it was too. I don't think it was a negative thing coming from Cam. And Maesto, at first, I don't. I don't think. I don't feel like they were negative in what they were saying.

[Rory]

No. And I mean, people have said that about Mayweather fights forever.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

Like, it's just boring. He's on defense the whole time. Like, we just sat and watched 12 rounds of nothing. Like, this isn't something new in boxing for people to commentate that way, especially when it's not heavyweights. Like, yeah, this is a technical boxing match where it's not gonna be as entertaining. I understand. When J. Prince does this type of stuff when, you know, he had certain clients that got chains, took in the Bronx and, like, talking that way for things that go beyond just commentating about a boxing match, I guess I understand.

[Mal]

Right.

[Rory]

I totally get Mason Cam's perspective on this one. Like, bro, we just comment. We do a sports show. We're commentating about his fight. Nobody went over the line. Like, this is just what people in the sports media industry do.

[Mal]

Yeah. And again, I don't, you know, let Cam and Mace. That's what they supposed to do. Supposed to talk, laugh, crack jokes. I didn't see no major disrespect from what they were saying, and if they.

[Rory]

Did, I missed it.

[Mal]

Yeah, I didn't get major disrespect. I mean, you know, you may not like people saying that, you know, the fight is boring or whatever. Whatever. I mean, but, you know, two things could be true. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could have had the highest ratings on ESPN in the last three years, but that fight could have been boring as well.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I just think that's, you know, just leave it at that. Like, yeah, cool, dude. Great for Shakur that, you know, he. He brought in that many numbers. Obviously, Shakur, Stevenson, people like Shakur Stevenson, he's one of the most exciting young fighters that we have. So people are going to tune into his fight, but at the same time, the fight wasn't that entertaining. People expected to see a better performance for Shakur. They were hoping for more, you know, action and more trading of punches, maybe a knockdown, a knockout, and that's fine. You know, we go into a lot of fights just rooting for certain fighters to perform a certain way. And when that doesn't happen, like you said with Floyd Mayweather, a lot of the times we didn't get the fireworks that we thought we would get from a Floyd fight. And people say, like, oh, he's the greatest technical boxer of all time. He's going to Beat you on the scorecards. He's going to land more jabs and things like that, but it's not going to be an exciting, fun fight to watch. You'll probably show that fight. If you're teaching somebody how to box, you would show him a Mayweather fight as far as defense and, and, you know, things like that, the way he turns his hands and throws his punches. But if you're looking for excitement and, you know, if you're looking for them to trade blows in the middle of the ring, like, Mayweather ain't doing that. He ain't gonna stand there and just exchange punches with nobody. Like, he's gonna jab, hit, counter, and get out the way and force you to come and get him.

[Rory]

But be a real boxing fan to enjoy that type of shit.

[Mal]

Yeah. So, I mean, you know, let me ask you.

[Rory]

This is the. Let me start by saying I don't want anything to happen between Cam, Mace and J. Prince outside of.

[Mal]

I'm not even worried.

[Rory]

I actually think it'd be really great if J. Prince went on their show and they actually just talked it out. I think that'd be the. The best thing ever.

[Mal]

Even Shakur. Shakur should go up there, too.

[Rory]

Great, great episode that I'd love to see. Has the J. Prince allure within the industry, like public facing, changed over the past few years to you? His allure just between, you know, these young kids love NBA youngboy. He didn't submit the way most people in the generation before him do when it comes to J. Prince, because we know his alleged history. He said, suck my dick. Wack has said crazy shit about J. Prince. And then Cam and Mace, I don't think they got super disrespectful, but it's not common to see people reply to J. Prince the way Cam and Mace just did. Like, bro, we don't. We don't care what the you talking about?

[Mal]

No, I. I think. I think when you talk.

[Rory]

You thought because you did an IG post, we were gonna be like, well, we should shut up now.

[Mal]

No, I think because that used to.

[Rory]

Be the boogeyman aspect with J. Prince.

[Mal]

I. I don't. I don't think that it's that. I think what. What it is is certain individuals. I mean, you can't. You can't push that type of energy on them. Because at the end of the day, number one, we're talking about grown men here. All of these guys are grown men. So if you're a grown man. And granted, we know, you know, obviously the History of J. Prince. And you know all of that, which I'm sure Cam and Mace know as well. But when you a grown man, that shit, it doesn't mean nothing to you. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm not. You're not talking to somebody that's in fear of you doing anything. Because I'm a man. I'm not scared of no man. So I just think that's the energy that Cam and Mace. Well, more so Mace in this clip is presenting, is that I'm a grown man. Like, I get it. You are who you are. But I am who I am as well.

[Rory]

Don't tell me that. In a white suit and purple glasses.

[Mal]

That's when you get it off. You get it off in your Easter shit. You gotta wear your Easter shit and get it off.

[Damaris]

There's one part of this I wanted to play.

[Rory]

That's how the pastor dresses when he's extorting the whole church on Easter Sunday.

[Mal]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Damaris]

This full clip's two minutes. But there's. The very end of this is. Let me see if I can time this right. This is one part that I wanted to play because this again, as someone that's not in the streets whatsoever and never give a. About any of this stuff.

[Rory]

This is the part that sit under the tree when it rained.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah. It was in the streets. Yeah. Dodging raindrops.

[Mal]

You felt. You felt. I'm telling you this.

[Damaris]

There you go.

[Mal]

Years old. A prince. And I'm gonna tell you like this. If you're 60 years old and you trying to be a street, you failed.

[Rory]

You felt.

[Mal]

You felt. I'm telling you this. And I. I'm. I stand. My name is Mace. I stand by this.

[Julian]

I'm gonna start watching.

[Rory]

This is an idiot. Their show is great. Every show is hilarious.

[Julian]

We react to anything from their show. I'm like, I'm gonna watch this show.

[Rory]

And shout out to treasure childhood friends being clowns. And I mean that in a good way. Like, they're just both hilarious.

[Mal]

The show is great, but again, you talking about grown men. Like, you know, I mean, like, you can't say certain things to grown men and expect that they gonna tuck their tail and run. Like, Cam and Mace are not from that. They've been in some treacherous situations. They've been in some.

[Rory]

Against each other.

[Mal]

Yeah, against each other. They've been in some life or death situations. And they're just at a point in their life where they're like, I'm not trying to exude that. Type of tough God energy. Like, that's we 40 plus years old. We damn near 50 years old. Like, nobody is trying to run around with that type of energy. Like, that's not where we're at anymore. Like, we survived that. We made it out of that. We transitioned away from that.

[Julian]

So do you believe being 60 and being a street nigga indicates that you're a loser?

[Mal]

I don't think that, but I don't think that. I don't think that J. Prince is trying to be a quote, unquote, street nigga or street guy. I think that he. J. Prince is who he is.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Obviously, we know his history, and I think this is him just standing up for his fighter, standing up for his guy and just letting him know, like, you know, like, y'all not gonna disrespect my guy like this. Like, I'll stand behind him. I'll stand beside him. And if anybody has something to say about him, negative, negative about him, just know that I'm gonna be on the line and we're gonna have to have a conversation because you're not going to disrespect my fight. And I respect that. But I also respect what Mace is saying. I don't think that J. Prince was trying to portray this street, though. I don't. You don't have to. J. Prince don't have to try to portray that.

[Rory]

Like, a great reply by.

[Mal]

By.

[Rory]

By Mace on a media perspective, but, like, if you get down to it, I don't think J. Prince was. That's how he's dealt with his clients forever.

[Mal]

Like, yeah.

[Rory]

And come on. I think it's safe to say Jay Prince is a legitimate businessman at this point.

[Mal]

Like, oh, yeah, no, no.

[Rory]

I don't think he's trying to do any of this. I think he just. He speaks like he's Sosa and Scarface. And that just has people thinking that he's on some street shit when he's not.

[Mal]

It's the. Or it's the aura that comes with.

[Rory]

He speaks really slow.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

He speaks in threatening riddles. Like.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You start to get that vibe from him. I think Jay Prince is just saying, yo, don't with my client.

[Mal]

Like, definitely give you a street riddle. How you thinking, like, maybe I shouldn't go outside. He'll give you one of those in the tweet. Like, yeah, you know what? I'mma. I'm gonna stay home tonight. I'm gonna just, you know, it ain't for me outside tonight. I'm gonna just. I'm Gonna just chill. But, yeah, now this is just, you know, let this be over with. Like, I. Like, like you said, Rory, I would love to see J. Prince and Shakur go up there, and all of them just sit up there and talk back and forth. I think that'd be great, because, again, we don't. What's supposed to happen now, like, work, you know, I mean, like, what's supposed to happen from this?

[Julian]

Like, yeah, all you is like, all y'all knees bad.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's like, come on, man. Hey, y'all get everybody getting too much money, man. Like, all that negative energy like Lee, that. That is in the past, man. Go up there, talk some laugh. It's okay to laugh at yourself, too. Like, Shakur gotta take some of that on it and then, you know, just put it on your back and say, all right, next fight, I'm going out here and I'm performing. I'm giving y'all what y'all want to see. Like, take it like that. Don't. Don't. They don't have to turn into a negative thing all the time.

[Rory]

Or don't. I had the highest rated fight on ESPN this year. Yeah, I won. Yeah. I think I'm gonna stick to my strategy. I think I'm doing all right.

[Mal]

I won. I didn't lose. Like, you know, it is what it is. But again, let's not turn it into something negative.

[Rory]

Also. There doesn't need to be more violence. There was already a fight.

[Mal]

Yeah. It's over with. It happened. J. Prince, Shakur, go up there. Go talk to Cammy. Mace. It is what it is. And just give us something to look at and laugh at and. And watch, you know, men come together and just, you know, just talk out and. And have fun. I don't think, to me, that's the better play.

[Rory]

I really don't think J. Prince replies.

[Mal]

No, no, I think he. He'll reply. I think he'll get on the phone. I don't think it'll be a public thing. I think he'll get.

[Rory]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

But I do think they'll end up going up there. I could see Shakur Stevenson going up there and sitting down with Cam and Mace. I could see that. I could definitely see that happening.

[Damaris]

Do you think this should have led to a fight when Michael Ealy lifted. We're a little behind on this one, but we definitely have to cover this story. When Michael Ely lifted both of Megan Good's feet off the ground in front of Jonathan Majors, I spoke about this a while ago.

[Mal]

I said, yo, dude, hug your girl and pick both her feet up off the ground. Like, that's a guy. You gotta kill that guy.

[Julian]

Rory said, you gonna be picking us all up. I wish I could find that clip.

[Mal]

You're gonna.

[Julian]

If you guys can find that clip from. That was within our first six episodes. Rory was like, nah, he gonna pick us up.

[Rory]

There's no way you picking my girl up. Come on, both of us, if you gonna do it.

[Mal]

But I didn't react to this when the clip first came out because I knew that they had cut the part out where he had said, what's up to Jonathan Majors. I knew they clipped that. There's no way he hugged this girl, then said, what's up to? Who was that dude?

[Rory]

That's D Smoke.

[Mal]

D Smoke. And his. And his. And his lady, I believe. There's no way Michael Ealy did that and didn't say hello to Jonathan Majors. There's no way either way, though, too.

[Rory]

Like, because we were recording, I think, just finishing up recording when this happened.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So we weren't able to cover it, but I saw the outrage online. Then I watched the actual video, and I was like, all right, y'all are kind of bugging. Like, did he really even pick her up?

[Julian]

He picked her up. Her feet.

[Mal]

He picked her up. But my thing was, y'all made it.

[Rory]

Sound like he picked her up and spun around.

[Mal]

No, no, no.

[Rory]

This could be that I'm the secure that you guys make fun of me about.

[Mal]

He picked her up.

[Damaris]

Look at the leg.

[Rory]

She's smiling, too. I can see. I can see.

[Mal]

Yeah. All of her front teeth picked her up. Nobody said spun her around. You threw that in there. He picked her up.

[Rory]

How? The Internet. When I. Before I saw the video, everyone reacting to it with memes and jokes and all that, I thought he was, like, had both her arms, and they was spinning in, like, a stupid field of flowers.

[Damaris]

This isn't bad enough.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's your brain.

[Julian]

It's not bad, though. All right, I'm sorry. I'm the woman. I' shut up.

[Mal]

What?

[Julian]

I'mma shut up. I'm a woman.

[Mal]

No, no, no, it's not. Listen, it's bad if he never said nothing to Jonathan Majors. If he didn't say, hello, Dap or not. Like, then it's bad.

[Julian]

Then it's bad.

[Mal]

But he said, what's up to Jonathan Majors first. They cut that part out and just gave us the rest.

[Damaris]

Great cut, by the way.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

But even cutting that part out that doesn't make it better. If you dat me and then pick my girl up and she starts giggling and a high F with all her.

[Julian]

They've worked and worked.

[Rory]

Just cause you dat me doesn't make it okay.

[Mal]

They worked on films together. Yeah, they work a lot of films together.

[Julian]

That part of black Hollywood. They're all super close, like.

[Mal]

But I'm gonna tell you.

[Rory]

But that's respect, though.

[Mal]

I'm gonna tell you the interesting part about this video, though. The interesting part is how Megan keeps looking at Jonathan for, like, confirmation to see if he's cool. Like, just check it out. Look how she could like Jonathan digging in the bag. It ain't nothing in that bag. He keep digging in the bag.

[Rory]

Check his phone.

[Mal]

Now look at Megan right here. Look how she looks at him. Look, boom, right here.

[Julian]

He ain't looking at her.

[Mal]

Watch the face.

[Rory]

Like, oh, yeah, sorry.

[Mal]

Like, he ain't looking at her. Yeah, Like, I'm not even. I'm looking away from you. I'm not locking eyes with you right now. I know you had a little crush on him before. That's that.

[Julian]

Look, how do you. Oh, my God.

[Mal]

This is Michael. Who?

[Rory]

You had a crush on him.

[Julian]

You saying this is Michael Ely? Nigga, that's Megan Good. Who said he ain't have a crush on her?

[Mal]

Maybe they crushed each other.

[Rory]

Wait, and first of all, wasn't Megan good married the entire time they were working?

[Mal]

Huh? What that mean?

[Rory]

She was married to a pastor.

[Julian]

She was married to the pastor for, like, not the entire time, she wasn't.

[Rory]

Come on, guys.

[Julian]

She knew Michael Ely before she knew that pastor.

[Mal]

That means no cheating happened.

[Rory]

A pastor's wife would know.

[Mal]

Say, that's Michael Ely. Women like Michael Ely, they find a mature, good actor. You know, they like.

[Julian]

I think. I think they have a brother sister relationship. I can tell by the way he picked her up. I can tell by the way he picked her up.

[Mal]

And I know those type of hugs.

[Rory]

Drake smoked that bar.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's a great bar.

[Mal]

I know those types of hugs. Somebody you used to like.

[Rory]

It's okay, because I do the same thing to girls. I used to.

[Mal]

Come on now. What are you talking about?

[Julian]

Up like that. That you used to.

[Mal]

Oh, you do? I can't wait to.

[Rory]

Well, this is why I think Michael Ealy is really the villain in this entire thing. Megan good. She just went with the situation. You're in public, you can't be, like, weird about it. That was some conniving nasty that he did.

[Mal]

No, no, I'm not Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Rory]

Well, if there's a girl, why do.

[Julian]

You keep putting that on her?

[Rory]

Hypothetically. Hypothetical. All right.

[Mal]

Oh, you say hypothetically.

[Rory]

Hypothetically. All right. Let's say hypothetically. I used to or I didn't used to. If a one of my friends is with her man, I'm not picking her up. Like, that's disrespectful. Have some couth. Like, in general mall.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Julian]

Oh, me and you don't see each other. If me and you don't see each other for, let's say, five years.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Me and you don't see each other.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And you see me out. I'm with my man, and you see me out. And she. Your first time seeing me. Me, who you work with every single day in five years.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You're not gonna pick me up when you see me. Thank you.

[Rory]

Whether you want diabolical. That's what you guys are.

[Julian]

That's not diabolical.

[Rory]

You can't just give a nice tight hug like, y'all.

[Mal]

If I hadn't seen. If I ain't. If I don't. If I go five years or some years without seeing baby D, and then I bump into her somewhere, I could definitely see me picking her up and, like.

[Julian]

And you would too. You would swing me around. So please, sir, Please.

[Rory]

Yeah, but please. I give off gay vibes. So what? At the end, I look like the gay besties?

[Julian]

He wouldn't have hugged her. He wouldn't have hugged her. That's not the hug you give to the girl that used to the hug.

[Mal]

You don't say, baby, you can't say that because I've hugged girls that I used. I like that. Okay, you can't say that.

[Rory]

All right, so if we were just in, like, public, like, just. Just out, yes, I might pick you up because I missed you. But if I know you're in a high repeat, you're in a high profile relationship at a step and repeat with cameras everywhere. I'm gonna give you a hug and just be like, yo, it's good to see you. Miss you so much. Let's talk after this.

[Mal]

Like, you gonna put all that my girl ear. No. You know, that's crap. That's crazy. That's diabolical.

[Rory]

I'm gonna whisper it.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's diabolical.

[Julian]

What you can't say out loud. What you saying in my ear that you can't say.

[Rory]

We could do the. The hug and then grab the hands and like, yo, it's been A minute. You know that hug. You know, the.

[Julian]

You're not hugging me like that. You're not hugging me like that.

[Mal]

He going crazy.

[Damaris]

The hand grab is.

[Mal]

You're not doing that in front of a girl's boyfriend, like, in front of him.

[Rory]

I respect relationships. Well, these days.

[Mal]

These days, he's not doing that.

[Rory]

Definitely. Girls.

[Julian]

I feel like Michael Ealy was really excited to see Megan, and I could tell by the way that she was smiling. She was really excited to see him. I think it's platonic love, and I think it's just like, oh, my God. Think a brother type.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm not. You know, we just talking. I don't. I don't. I don't think that there was any malicious intent or any flirtatious energy from Michael. I don't think that he was, like, doing that. I think that he was just genuinely happy to see somebody that he obviously worked with, somebody he probably hasn't seen in a while. And, you know, but, you know, we standing there, we gonna have fun with it.

[Julian]

But it was funny seeing all the men's reactions because, like, some were joking, but so many of y'all were not joking, and y'all didn't find that shit funny at all.

[Mal]

Well, that is.

[Julian]

They, like, the prettiest in the world. Okay. Just cause you would him doesn't mean that she would. You see what I'm saying? Like, that's sick. I just. Niggas need to be honest. Be like, oh, that got money. I know you want to fuck him. No. You want to him.

[Rory]

I was more into the barbershop. Michael Ealy when he had a little edge and a little thug to him. That's more my type.

[Mal]

When Eve was trying to play, that's.

[Damaris]

When you would him when he was.

[Mal]

Playing, he was playing hard to get.

[Rory]

And then found out he was. He could read and was like, now I want to fucking. That's what happened in the movie, which.

[Mal]

So. So did Megan. Megan responded.

[Julian]

I don't think she.

[Damaris]

I don't think so.

[Julian]

I don't think she did.

[Damaris]

But we did get a call.

[Rory]

I hope to God they did not reply.

[Damaris]

We did get a call that. Which I think this could kind of help us segue into voicemails. We did get a call about this hug, which. But she's adds a new perspective, which I think we should address as well.

[Rory]

Oh, is Maddie front of the show? Hey, y'all.

[Mal]

What's up? It's Maddie from the Discord.

[Damaris]

I'm sure voicemail.

[Rory]

You guys have seen the video Of.

[Julian]

Megan Good getting lifted off her feet.

[Mal]

In front of Jonathan Major.

[Julian]

And I was just curious because apparently.

[Rory]

No one can have any fun, and I can't be lifted off my feet in front of my man by a friend.

[Julian]

Does that mean that I can lift people? Like, am I allowed to lift up my friends in front of my man? The Discord seems to think this is not hip hop. So I'm wondering if you all can rule on this and let me know how I should hug people moving forward.

[Mal]

Appreciate y'all.

[Rory]

Congrats on number 13.

[Mal]

We don't even know how to hug each other no more.

[Damaris]

Has a girl ever lifted you guys off the ground?

[Rory]

Yo, if I was. If I was out.

[Mal]

Yeah, I got a strong gay friend like, she. She definitely do. She do that. Being silly, though. Like, your feet.

[Julian]

Your feet gang.

[Rory]

Like, they kick.

[Julian]

No, please. I gotta see that. I gotta see that.

[Mal]

She's small as a motherfucker.

[Damaris]

That's like the go to, like, every time.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, being funny, though. I'd be like, yo, don't fucking pick me up.

[Rory]

Do you scream, Stop playing. Stop playing. Stop playing. The entire time you hold your hat down.

[Mal]

Nah, I'll be like, yo, stop playing. Put me down. But she's tall. She's like six. Six feet strong.

[Julian]

Oh, she pick your little ass.

[Mal]

Nah, she'll knock all this over. Don't. Don't get it up. Like, she. She gets. She'll knock all this.

[Julian]

She tricked.

[Mal]

Is she tricked? Probably. She probably do. She probably a trick. She wouldn't tell me, though, because she know I start laughing. Yeah, you can't.

[Rory]

Then she smacked the.

[Mal]

Out of you. Yeah. No, then we gotta fight it. Then we gotta swing. But, yeah, I gotta gay a gay homegirl. That dude, she. But she knows she's being funny when she do that. Like, I actually. Like, I don't. I'd be like, yo, don't, like, stop. Don't tell. Touch me. Like, that type of.

[Julian]

He just over here dying. I'm sorry. Yeah, he's over here cracking up.

[Rory]

Just seeing your dunks just flapping like that would be hilarious.

[Mal]

Yeah, put me down.

[Rory]

I can't imagine just being out one night and Kia just pick up her homeboy. Hello.

[Damaris]

That's a crazy.

[Rory]

That's a wild perspective that he put in there. Imagine your girl seeing her homeboy and just lift him up like, yo, how you been? Like, what the.

[Mal]

Picking dudes up? Like, the type of. Is that.

[Julian]

Yo, put that down now. Now. Put him down now.

[Mal]

But it's just funny.

[Rory]

You'll Be like, yo, you never picked me up.

[Mal]

That's where your brain would go. You would go there. Why you ain't never.

[Julian]

You like him more than me?

[Rory]

Yeah, like, that's. That's your thing.

[Mal]

I didn't think it was nothing wrong with it then, especially once I saw the Jonathan Majors part that he Now. I didn't see the first part when I first saw the clip. I'm like, that's disrespectful. But when you see the whole video, you're like the Internet just being the Internet, trying to make something out of nothing. That's all I was. But. But Jonathan may just. He was digging in that bag, and it wasn't nothing in there, though.

[Julian]

I wasn't shitting that bag.

[Mal]

He was digging in that bag and it's like, fam, what you doing? You ain't looking for nothing.

[Rory]

I've been there without the pickup hug part, but I've definitely, like, just looked at my phone or like, pretended to do something when my girl was talking to her home and she just ran into us.

[Mal]

Like, yeah, that's the awkward part of it.

[Rory]

Like, you haven't introduced me.

[Mal]

What do I do? So, yeah, like, while I'm standing here, it's like, obviously I said, what's up? But now y'all are friends. Y'all are having y'all, y'all back and forth with conversations. Like, so I'm supposed to just stand here and just start talking to the random person next to me or something. Like, that's what makes it awkward. It's like, what do I do now that y'all are sitting here having this conversation?

[Rory]

Like, oh, think like a man. 3. When's it coming?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I wouldn't know what to say.

[Julian]

Yeah, it's just, when's it coming? Oh, my.

[Rory]

So much chemistry was booming on the screen with you guys.

[Mal]

But Megan did a good job of, you know, trying to keep it. Cause you know, women got. Y'all know y'all gotta keep it. Like, all right, now if you hold me up another two. Two seconds, it's gonna get awkward. Like, it's gonna get very awkward. It's awkward already. But if you hold me any longer, it's gonna get. Y'all do that little pat on the back, like, all right, nigga, put me down.

[Rory]

Does Michael Ealy have. Have a girl? Cause that's another perspective we haven't even thought.

[Julian]

I have no idea.

[Rory]

Let's say he has a long term girlfriend and she's at home chilling. You know, didn't want to Go to whatever premiere that was and she sees that video like, all right, what you doing?

[Mal]

Oh, she probably like. That's what he always do though. He always pick up his homegirl. That's his thing. Yeah, that's.

[Julian]

He's married. He's been married since damn. His wife. Fine. Since 2012 to Katira Razfikara Zara.

[Mal]

You fucked all that up. I don't know what you just said.

[Julian]

I'm sorry. He's married. He's been married since 2012.

[Mal]

That's a married man hug.

[Rory]

How would you feel if your man's go to move was just picking his homegirls up?

[Julian]

I doubt that that's his go to.

[Rory]

Move, but that's more was sex.

[Damaris]

She's af.

[Julian]

Look at you about to wet. Look at yourself.

[Damaris]

It's cool. They probably have a beautiful kid. Sorry.

[Rory]

They do with great hair, right?

[Damaris]

They have two beautiful kids with amazing hair.

[Julian]

I'm about to throw up. Julian. Like, I'm not going to lie. Like, I'm like, I'm not going to lie, bro.

[Mal]

I'm not going to lie, bro.

[Rory]

Look at your couple goals. Damaris, would you be okay with with your man's go to move being pick up pick up his homegirls?

[Julian]

I wouldn't care. I don't care. I don't care. But I am, I am not the majority. I don't care about because the marriage don't like that's not true. I'm just not insecure. So I don't like, I don't care.

[Mal]

Things could be true. You don't like.

[Julian]

I also don't like. But I do like the, the men that I have been with that I like my men. So yes, I really like them. If I'm in a relationship, I really like this man. But if you picking up your homegirl like, I don't know. I like men who value women and who like the women around them. So when men act like they like women and they value women, that's a turn on to me. I don't want you to be.

[Mal]

So if your man pick his homegirl up, you're gonna be like, no, I don't care about.

[Rory]

He knows how to love.

[Mal]

She got a.

[Rory]

She cute.

[Mal]

She got a nice ass in the back.

[Julian]

Because I just don't care about that type of thing. Because if I'm with you, I feel.

[Rory]

Like, babe, let me get a girl.

[Julian]

If I feel like I'm in a relationship with somebody I shouldn't even be worried about like that like it's real life going On. I'm not worried about.

[Rory]

I'm shocked by this response in the room because when I said I had no issue with Kia's attractive homeboy making her tacos when I wasn't, I agreed with you. You guys.

[Julian]

No, I know you guys.

[Rory]

But now your girl can get spun around on the red carpet.

[Mal]

Different.

[Rory]

And it's fine.

[Julian]

That's awesome.

[Mal]

Flag on the play. That's different. You were not there. They were in a house alone. They were in a house alone.

[Damaris]

You said making tacos, which means there's a spread. And they're. They're making. They're literally using their hands to make the food for each other.

[Mal]

Tacos get messy.

[Rory]

No, we have spatulas.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you got to eat tacos.

[Damaris]

Bare handing it.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you got to eat tacos. It's messy. You know how that go. That's.

[Julian]

He wiped the sauce out the corner of her mouth.

[Mal]

He went, you got a little something right there.

[Julian]

Got a little something right there.

[Damaris]

Showed her how to roll it.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

Ooh, what if they made the Sopranos move up? Y'all could add more. Yeah, add more to your face later.

[Mal]

Rory really thought it wasn't that crazy about that.

[Julian]

I don't think that was crazy because.

[Mal]

I did that for Rory.

[Julian]

I also don't think that is crazy. That's how the conversation came up. The conversation came up because I said I went to Rory's house and I cooked for him. Kia wasn't there, and then he said he would let Kia do the same thing. That's where we came for the conversation.

[Rory]

So what you guys are saying is he beat.

[Mal]

No, that's not what I'm saying.

[Julian]

I don't say that.

[Mal]

That. I'm saying that they are both two attractive black people in Hollywood.

[Rory]

First of all, I never told you what racy was. Second, you think my girl's attractive?

[Mal]

No. You talking about Michael Ely and Megan.

[Julian]

We talk about. Let's talk about guy cooking.

[Mal]

Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. All right, go ahead. I. But no, you did say he was attractive. Didn't Rory say that he was.

[Julian]

He had, like. He had, like, long white hair. He like white and got long hair. Right?

[Damaris]

Six, five.

[Mal]

He has long white hair. Is this.

[Julian]

You had a black man cooking for your queen in your kitchen.

[Damaris]

You said he was shirtless.

[Julian]

I know he was black. I thought he was white.

[Damaris]

He showered, too.

[Mal]

What? At the house. Well, before you. Before you touch the.

[Rory]

This scenario, we get on the same page. Michael Ely showered at my girl's crew.

[Julian]

I Didn't know you had me and Dingo in there.

[Mal]

Dudes get naked in your house.

[Rory]

I've never seen his dick. I don't know.

[Mal]

That's sick. Why would you even bring that up?

[Rory]

Bring what?

[Julian]

If I said Mandingo.

[Mal]

Oh, I didn't hear that.

[Rory]

Wait, I didn't hear that.

[Mal]

I didn't hear what Damaris said. I didn't hear that.

[Rory]

She said that.

[Mal]

I didn't hear her.

[Rory]

My bad. I said, I have not seen his dick.

[Mal]

Valid what you're saying. I didn't hear what she said. My bad. That.

[Damaris]

Would you let him shower the crib? You let the mayor shower at the crib?

[Mal]

I didn't ask. I. That's not my Look.

[Damaris]

You let the mayor shower at the crib. We know how that went.

[Mal]

Shower head still on.

[Damaris]

Still clogged.

[Rory]

Came all over my mother's shower.

[Damaris]

Come clogged in the shower.

[Mal]

Got to get a whole new shower head. Don't work.

[Julian]

Y'all done.

[Rory]

I was lying. Question. Why you need to shower in my house when I'm not there and you're there?

[Damaris]

Cuz he's preparing the food. He's touching the raw food.

[Mal]

Rory is lying. He got all this here. You lying. You not questioning your girl. If you found out her homeware that came to cook for her then showered in the crib. That's not a question. Everybody got to die. Everybody got to die. And then get the out.

[Damaris]

If you called Kia and you heard a shower running, that's not a question.

[Rory]

Wait, I heard the shower in the background.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which means she's in proximity. She's somewhere in proximity.

[Rory]

It's like four doors you have to shut.

[Mal]

She's somewhere right there.

[Rory]

Y'all know my master bedroom to my bathroom.

[Julian]

Bathroom.

[Rory]

If you could hear the shower going.

[Julian]

He was in the mask.

[Rory]

She's in the shower with him. He was at Kia's crib.

[Julian]

I thought he was.

[Rory]

I was just going with the scenario.

[Mal]

That is sick.

[Rory]

But, yeah, I'd have some questions. Like, why he need to shower? Tacos ain't that messy.

[Mal]

I'm not answering. I'm not asking no questions. I hear ain't that messy. Get the out of here. Showering in my. In my girl's crib.

[Julian]

What if it was a crab oil?

[Mal]

What?

[Damaris]

Since when is eating so messy? You need to.

[Julian]

Well, crab wheels. You smell like fish, so.

[Rory]

And there's. There was reason.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you don't need to get in my girl's shower. You can go home, though, like.

[Julian]

Nah, it was having A sleepover.

[Mal]

Who?

[Rory]

Now you know.

[Mal]

Okay, you know I'm crazy. I was about to say. You let this. He fell asleep, Got a good night's rest at your girlfriend? Nah, we not doing that.

[Rory]

She said he slept on the couch.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, we're not doing that.

[Rory]

No, they slept head to toe.

[Mal]

No way. That goes back to that conversation we had about women saying, oh, you being insecure. That's not insecure.

[Rory]

No, that's not insecure.

[Mal]

You're not sleeping in my girl.

[Rory]

He has a home. He should go home.

[Mal]

Get the out of here.

[Rory]

But, like, all right, Damaris, when she was showering, was. She was watching. It was. You watch Bays for, like, the weekend, right?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So she's allowed to shower if homeboy. If homeboy is just making some tacos.

[Julian]

I done showered when you was in there. Recording.

[Mal]

The marriage is different. I'm talking about a guy's house.

[Rory]

House.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

He put his dick all on my towels, yo.

[Julian]

Like, oh, he definitely, definitely put his dick on the hands. House.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

Putting your dick on the handheld crazy. For the record, he did not shower at the house. It's a scenario we made up.

[Julian]

All of this is made up.

[Damaris]

He borrowed your clothing. He took your socks.

[Julian]

Maybe I'm weird.

[Rory]

Food for Amara and Kia.

[Julian]

Oh, Amara was there.

[Mal]

Oh, yes.

[Julian]

He wasn't gonna. While Mara was there.

[Mal]

You got me twisted. That used to be my goal.

[Rory]

Scenario is not fun anymore. Guys, hypotheticals.

[Mal]

As soon as the baby goes, I'm like, yeah, you know, it's time for some mommy time.

[Rory]

Now you're just throwing Ms. Rachel.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Rory]

All right. No, but it's my mommy time.

[Julian]

Sick. You're sick. If my man had a homegirl that I knew, I like this. Been his homegirl for forever, and I knew I'm not gonna get mad if I'm gone and she takes a shower at his house. I don't. I don't care. Maybe. But again, I know that I'm not the majority. I'm weird. I just don't care about, like, that.

[Mal]

Stop, bro. I don't stop your blood clot lying, yo. You're not letting no girl get naked in your man's crib and take a shower.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Respectfully, I know what I look like naked. I know the type of picture.

[Mal]

What that mean.

[Julian]

I know the type of what that mean.

[Mal]

What does that mean?

[Julian]

Because if you want to cheat, then you really, really, really just wanted to cheat, and you're gonna do that whether you're in my house or not, period.

[Mal]

That's a fact. But you're not gonna knowingly, knowingly know there's a girl in your man's crib. Crib taking a shower.

[Julian]

I don't care about. Like that.

[Mal]

No, I'm not jacking.

[Julian]

As long as it was a good reason. Like, it's a hot. Y'all been out. Y'all been out running the streets. It's 90 degrees. And she come in the house and take a shower.

[Mal]

Please do.

[Julian]

Before you sit on my couch. Like, what are you talking about?

[Mal]

Before you take your ass home and shower. But you say the only shower in the dry state.

[Julian]

Different. There's talking about. There's different scenarios and different things and different.

[Mal]

It ain't no scenario where if my girl is out with her homeboy all day, they've been running around rooftop party this palooza that palooza sweaty. Come back to the crib in his crate. Come back and be like, yo. Come back and be like, yo, it's mad hot. Can I jump in the shower? No, you can go home.

[Damaris]

Unless you yourself while you entered my.

[Mal]

Apartment and you really not coming in my crib if you yourself. But maybe I'm bringing your shitty ass in here.

[Julian]

I. And I get complacent.

[Rory]

What's that? But adult is still staying out after they.

[Julian]

Maybe it's out of town because, for example, I've been far away from home. We live in New York, right? The tri state area. I live in Jersey now. I stayed tonight if I was in a relationship. I stayed tonight at my homeboy house the other night because he lives in Brooklyn and I live in Jersey and it was 2:00 in the morning. I'm not going home to Jersey at 2 o'clock in the morning drunk. He would never even let me do that. Are you seeing what I'm saying? So that's why it's like, he drive? Does he drive? Yeah, he was drunk. We couldn't drive nowhere.

[Mal]

So y'all was both drunk. Uber.

[Julian]

It's my home.

[Rory]

He was hanging out with the car. You saw the.

[Julian]

You ain't just see me all hanging out the video.

[Mal]

You single, right?

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm single.

[Mal]

All right, then it's all good.

[Rory]

Yeah, because there's no way.

[Julian]

So I can't get drunk with my homeboys even if I'm not single at.

[Rory]

2Am you get in the way.

[Mal]

Where you at? Yeah, where you at? As your man, if you drunk with some nigga and your homeboy, you not drunk like, yo, I'MMA just crash here tonight. No, I'm about to crash on the way over, and then I'm crashing through the front door. If you ain't outside when I get. You mean I'm gonna spend the night? No, the fuck you ain't. You drunk and he drunk. Nah, I know. What? I know how this story end. Now you wake up with a wet butt. Nah, I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm cool.

[Rory]

It's cause she shit herself.

[Mal]

I'm cool, I'm cool.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's a doo doo.

[Mal]

Are you crazy? Yo, we both drunk. He ain't gonna drive me home right now. Cause he drunk as your man, I'm supposed to sit on the other line and be like, yeah, you right. Go ahead, get some. Y'all get some sleep. Y'all get some sleep.

[Julian]

What if you live out of town?

[Mal]

If I live out of town? You wanna see how fast I'm in town? Fuck out of here. What we talking? No way. Not saying you can't have your home, your homeboys, and get drunk and you do all of that, but you not going to be drunk. He drunk and you sleep. You spend a night at his house. We not. That's too much. Drunk, sleep, bed, shower, sober, huh?

[Julian]

What if I'm sober?

[Damaris]

Go home.

[Mal]

Are you really going home?

[Damaris]

Go home.

[Mal]

Call a fucking Uber. No, matter of fact, I'm calling. What's the address? Uber's outside. You know how you add passenger to the.

[Rory]

You've done that shit plenty of times.

[Mal]

Yeah, Uber's outside. You know what time it's pulling up? Seven minutes.

[Rory]

Be downstairs not even with her homeboys when she. My girl's gone out with her girlfriends and gotten drunk and went to their crib after because it was closer to whatever spot they was at. Send me the address.

[Julian]

Yeah, you can write Uber as you should. You getting in the I'm doing hypothetical argument.

[Mal]

Exactly what you're doing. And I'm responding to everything you're throwing on the table. It's just never no excuse or reason why. If you have a boyfriend or girlfriend and then you have a platonic. Just homeboy or homegirl that both of y'all are drunk and have to end up spending the night at one another's house. You can go home or he can go home. That's all I'm saying. Like those days of, yo, we was drunk and we just. No, no, no. Nobody ain't wanna drive. Call an Uber. I'll call an Uber. I'll send the Uber.

[Julian]

But I've definitely stayed In Brooklyn, at my homeboy's house, when I had to come here before, when I was in a relationship, when I had to come here because where we work is closer to Brooklyn than me going all the way gay.

[Mal]

Did your boyfriend know your friend?

[Julian]

Yes, he knows him.

[Mal]

All right.

[Rory]

Julian crashed in my house after Roots picnic.

[Mal]

That's cause y'all are gay.

[Rory]

No, but I'm saying that's why it was. It crossed the boundaries because we're both that.

[Mal]

Yeah. You gave him a blanket? Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, I had a whole. I had a whole spare bedroom.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

Big gay Rory house used to be the spot all the girls used to sleep at.

[Damaris]

After I do been going to Rory's house.

[Julian]

Oh, my God. Me and Brit knocked. We ain't going home, yo.

[Rory]

So Britt used to have a bunch of clothes at my crib that had been there for like, two years when my crib stopped being the spot.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I was doing donations, and Britt had not picked her clothes up, and she had been at the crib. Still didn't take the clothes. I donated them.

[Julian]

No.

[Mal]

Then she called.

[Rory]

So remember when I said I went out last Sunday for Rich's party? Me and Kia went. And she went to me and Key was like, hey, do you guys still have, like, all my sweats that were in the. The drawers? And Kia tapped me, was like, it's over. We just donated those.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's over.

[Rory]

I was like, yeah, well, look, it's over, but if you don't claim your in two years. Oh, no, it's being donated.

[Mal]

I don't know where that is at.

[Rory]

It was in my pile of donations.

[Julian]

It was a year and a half, but I get it.

[Mal]

That's two.

[Damaris]

That's long enough.

[Mal]

We round up. That's two.

[Damaris]

I. I love when a voicemail segways perfectly into another one. So I just want to go right into this because it carries off our current conversations with a real life example.

[Rory]

What's going on, y'all? So before I ask my question, I actually wanted to answer a question. I know Mal had asked a question.

[Mal]

About, like, show me the person.

[Rory]

Show me the nigga who would allow his girl to sleep at her. Her best friend's house who's a man. And I'm here to tell you that that's me. You know what I mean? Me and my wife have been together. We've been married eight years. We've been together over 15 years. So all her friends. I know, all my friends, she knows of both genders, vice versa. And one of her best friends, who's a male, he lives in la. A couple years ago he was going through some things, you know I'm saying, depression, things like that. And she went out there to check him, check on him, make sure he was good. She stayed at his crib for the. For the weekend. And I was cool with it, to be honest. I have no reason not to trust her. I know him, you know what I'm saying? Anytime he's in New York, we all link up, you know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

Go for drinks, go out to dinner, whatever.

[Rory]

So I just wanted to kind of put that out there that these kind of people do exist, you know what I'm saying? They're as security and trust in.

[Mal]

In relationships.

[Rory]

But again, that was built over a long period of time.

[Damaris]

So what do you think about that? In that incident.

[Rory]

Come on, I'm the secure person. That's fine.

[Damaris]

So he's saying she FL. Flew out. So that's clearly. We're talking across state lines. I think this gentleman's.

[Rory]

That makes a federal crime actually when.

[Julian]

You do that trafficking.

[Rory]

So depression.

[Mal]

Yo, listen, man. See Rory, I wasn't going to say nothing. I was not going to say nothing.

[Rory]

I was depressed.

[Mal]

I was not gonna say nothing. I was gonna let that rock. Because I'm trying this thing where I'm just letting people get their off and I'm not responding. I'm trying. But that triggered me when Rory said depression. Get the out of here. Depression. So you.

[Damaris]

You.

[Mal]

You the anti depressant. You about to fly all the way across the country to go get this undepressed.

[Julian]

That's not.

[Mal]

Get the out of here.

[Damaris]

What makes her qualify.

[Rory]

Get some Paxil and shut the.

[Mal]

Like. Tell that to call better help or some. Get. Get the fuck out of here. You ain't flying to go spend a night at his house because he's depressed. What that mean? And I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust your partners. And you can't have platonic healthy relationships and just friends. I know you can. I'm just saying I need something a little more severe than he's depressed.

[Julian]

Suicidal more like. Ah, you gotta actually do it. I don't know.

[Mal]

Yeah. Is this saying. Is he on the roof right now? Where is he at? If this just chilling. I ain't depressed. He just broke, that's all.

[Rory]

What the.

[Mal]

He just broke.

[Rory]

He made a bunch of shitty decisions. Now he has to do a lot of.

[Mal]

That was suicidal. As soon as they got some money. He's the happiest in the world now, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was magically, how that. Just be depressed their whole life. Get some money and life is beautiful. I know.

[Rory]

I bet it's behind on rent.

[Mal]

That's all he is. Landlord calling. He's scared to go outside and bump into the landlord. I get depression. You ain't about to fly over there and try to get him happy, though.

[Rory]

And how.

[Mal]

How my girl making you happy?

[Rory]

My brain is. As someone that's dealt with depression. I'm like, when I'm depressed, I don't want to see anybody. He lying.

[Mal]

Yeah, but I'm depressed. Like, I don't want no company.

[Rory]

Company. Get away from.

[Mal]

Get the out my house. I don't want no company.

[Julian]

So maybe he's doing that and she's like, nah, I gotta go. Like, I gotta go make sure he's good.

[Mal]

What you gonna do to make sure this other man is good? What is my girl doing to make sure another man is good?

[Damaris]

What makes her so qualified to. Yeah, like what' to fly across the.

[Julian]

Country if she was his. If she was a dude. If. No, because if. If she was a dude and she did that, y'all wouldn't question it. Y'all wouldn't say, why are you going out there to check on your friend? He depressed. Y'all wouldn't question it if she was a dude.

[Mal]

Wait, what if she was a dude?

[Julian]

If she was a dude and a dude flew across the country like, yo, my homeboy not picking up for nobody. He just pressed.

[Rory]

Y'all want to call him gay?

[Julian]

No, we wouldn't, bro. Not everything is gay, and not everything is.

[Rory]

No, I'm saying women are homophobic. If we take care of our male friends. You think we're gay?

[Mal]

Damaris. I'm telling you, I'm. Listen, I'm just speaking for myself. My girl could never look me in my eyes and say, hey, Jonathan is depressed. Gonna catch a flight tomorrow and fly out to LA and go stay with him for a couple days.

[Damaris]

Just a quick, quick weekend in la.

[Mal]

Guess what? We going to LA tomorrow and checking on Jonathan, if anything.

[Julian]

But who gonna watch the dogs?

[Mal]

You gotta watch the dogs. The dogs.

[Rory]

He not flying to LA. You not flying to LA. We'll FaceTime them, get him the help he needs.

[Julian]

Well, see, I mean, I feel like.

[Mal]

Send him an escort. I don't know what the.

[Julian]

Respectfully, that's not the way that women do our friends. That's not the way women friends. Men may friend like that. Like, oh, I call him. He Said he good. He good. Women aren't like that, so I'm not doing that. If my homeboy. I have a male best. I have two male best friends. If they. If they're depressed and I think that they might be in danger and they need me, I don't give a who I'm married to or who I'm with. I'm going to check on them. Because before you were here, dumb niggas were making sure that I was good and never wanted to fuck me, never wanted anything to do with me, and they still made sure that I was good. And I would do the same. And I would do the same.

[Rory]

Right, man, you win.

[Mal]

You fucking win. But hold on. But can you see? All right. Valid. Everything saying you standing on big business, big box of business.

[Julian]

I don't give a fuck.

[Mal]

But what I'm saying is this. Can you not see in that scenario, your man not feeling some type of way about that?

[Julian]

Oh, no, I could definitely see.

[Mal]

That's all I'm saying.

[Julian]

Oh, no, I'm not mad at you for feeling some type of way or. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's within your innate nature. You're fucking possessive of me. And I. I get all.

[Mal]

And then I can't even ask Baby D if her man told her that he was flying to go see a girl, his homegirl, across the country, cause she depressed, would she be mad? Cause she don't even like niggas enough.

[Julian]

Yeah, that's not true. I like my niggas. I love mine. I don't like other niggas. My nigga, whoever I'm with, love him down.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you all right. So if your man say y'all gotta.

[Julian]

Go, I'm going back to the same ones over and over.

[Mal]

If your man say I gotta fly to LA to go see. Go see Patricia, she depressed.

[Julian]

How old is Patricia? That name.

[Mal]

Oh, no.

[Rory]

34. Who I was gonna go with like 56, 82.

[Mal]

I know some Patricias that are in it early.

[Julian]

He going to see. He going to see Bianca. He going to see Bianca.

[Mal]

Bianca.

[Damaris]

Why does the name matter? You.

[Mal]

You telling me you wouldn't question and you wouldn't have no question? Okay, cool.

[Julian]

If Bianca comes. If. When Bianca's in town, we go out to dinner with Bianca, and Bianca stays at my house. I don't give a fuck. Fine. Bitches don't intimidate me. I'm fine.

[Mal]

I don't give a fuck.

[Julian]

I don't care. Fine. Girls don't intimidate me.

[Mal]

I'm not saying. I'm not saying to intimidate you. I'm saying, you know, your man would this girl.

[Rory]

He would a ugly too.

[Julian]

Y'all don't mad ugly.

[Mal]

You make it seem like we just out here gunning down the mad. The ugly. I'm not just gunning them down. A few of the. A few ugly slip through the cracks.

[Damaris]

Those are the bodies you just take to the ground.

[Rory]

It's a volume game.

[Mal]

Yeah, I was going through, so I was depressed. You know what I'm saying? I was going through. I didn't value myself.

[Julian]

That doesn't say, when batters are in.

[Rory]

A slump, you got to swing more.

[Damaris]

Sometimes you got a hot hand and you just carry through.

[Mal]

Yeah, swinging every. Everything look good coming across the plate. When I'm in the slump, I'm swinging at all.

[Rory]

You just got to get your swing back.

[Mal]

Yeah, something gonna connect. God Damn it.

[Damaris]

At 3am doing full court shots.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm throwing anything up. I had my nights baby D. But I'm talking about the undeniable girl that's.

[Julian]

Like, oh, she look like Bernice Burnt Ghost. Bernice be depressed sometimes, but this my thing, though.

[Mal]

Why can't go help Bernice get out her depression?

[Damaris]

That's what Max said.

[Rory]

Be depression, bathing suit money not hitting the same.

[Julian]

If that was your friend, first of all, if that was your friend before me, then I. If I'm insecure about that, I don't need to be your friend. That's the case.

[Mal]

No, if.

[Julian]

If I feel like you're that attracted to her, then you probably her before you met.

[Mal]

No, not that I'm that attracted to her that she's just that attract attractive, that's fine.

[Julian]

If you're gonna cheat, you're gonna cheat a be.

[Mal]

That's a fact.

[Julian]

There ain't no level of, oh, okay, I might cheat because this a 10, but I ain't gonna cheat because this a 5. If you a cheater, you a cheater, bro.

[Rory]

Like, yeah, I let Mandigo make tacos.

[Julian]

That is not. I mean, I get the jokes. I'll be with the jokes and like that, but when you in a relationship with somebody and you trust the person that you in a relationship with, if you think that all it take is a flight and a bad bitch for them to stick their dick in something and lie to you about it and not even be real with you about it, you conniving. You flying out to go see a you calling your best friend. I wouldn't even get into a relationship with somebody that I felt was that manipulative and to.

[Damaris]

To bring it back to the call for one second. He did say that he's very like, they've established that this is someone like, he's trusting of his wife. They've built this whole system over the eight years time. He never said it was immediate. He said it takes, you know, years to build this up. So, like, he's not worried about it. Like, he was very much like, she's good. She can go do her thing. I'll be at the crib, whatever. So it wasn't like they. They've been together for a year and then she's like, I gotta go across the country and see this guy.

[Julian]

You've been married for eight years. We've been together for 15. I know all your friends. That's our friend.

[Rory]

That's true. I can't believe he's in a different scenario, though. Yeah, she's not doing nothing but helping her friend.

[Mal]

I love mall so much because you know why, man? Y'all be trying to make me sound like the crazy in the room, and I'm just like, all right, man, whatever, man.

[Julian]

I'm not trying to make you seem crazy. I get it. But also, ma, I just don't think you've been in a 5, 10 year relationship, committed relationship, to even know to build that. You can build that amount of trust with somebody, have that type of relationship with their friends, their family. That nigga probably be at their family reunion. Like, he's friends and family.

[Mal]

Like, I've had relationships like that. Like, you definitely have. Like I said, I know that we just shooting shit. There are platonic friendships where it's not non sexual. Like, I know that those exist. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, if my girl said, yo, Harry is depressed and I gotta go to LA for a couple of days to check on him. I'm gonna just have some questions. Like, yo, but Harry ain't got none of the homies. Like, where his homies at?

[Rory]

What's funny about Maul is. And take out the depression part, but what's funny about your logic is that you are that homeboy. That you have great relationships with women just platonically as friends. You are that homeboy that hangs out with his homegirls that are in long term relationships.

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

And don't really have.

[Mal]

Like, that's why I said it's possible.

[Rory]

Closest relationship with the boyfriend. Like, you are that homeboy, and it's innocent. So why would you not think the.

[Mal]

Same could happen But I also am not in a relationship to have to worry about what my woman would think about me having to go across the country to go see my own girl.

[Rory]

But I'm saying so I could see.

[Mal]

Why a girl would be like, your.

[Rory]

Friends, boyfriends don't need to worry because it's strictly platonic. It's just your homegirl.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So, you know, in scenarios that exists, why can't it be on the flip side?

[Mal]

Like, you said, it exists. I know. I know it exists. I'm just saying I could understand how your significant other would have questions.

[Julian]

Of course.

[Mal]

That's all.

[Julian]

And I just feel like.

[Rory]

And know how to make tacos. I shouldn't feel threatened.

[Julian]

I want no mushroom tacos, man.

[Rory]

Your girl cheating on you with a vegan. Vegan dick.

[Mal]

Stand up all night. That circulation.

[Rory]

That honey pack.

[Mal]

Yeah, honey packs. Fruits and veggies. It's that.

[Rory]

Brussels sprouts.

[Mal]

Fruits and veggies.

[Julian]

That green smoothie.

[Mal]

That circulation is serious.

[Julian]

I don't know. I just. I feel like when you. And I feel like this is only an issue when you allow people to run, like, your relationships. Like, when I was with my. One of my male best friends and me. He took me and Alex Seeker crab legs after the party, Me and him were having a conversation as far as, like, any. Cause, you know, he's dating women now and shit like that. He's single. He's like, yo. One of the first things that is brought up in these conversations is that I have a female best friend, and I'm extremely close to her. He was like, and some bitches don't jack it. And then I no longer jack them. Like, it's no. Like, I am. We are a package deal. We've been best friends for over a decade. Like, if you gonna date either one of us, you gotta understand that we gonna be around each other. We gonna be drunk, we gonna be lit. We gonna stay the night at each other's houses. We cool with each other's families. Like, if you insecure about that, then you don't even need to be around.

[Mal]

I have relationships like that. Like, with my homegirls. Like, that I'm that cool with. Know they families, like, talk to their pops, talk to their moms on the phone. Like, I have that type of. So I know it's. I know it's possible. I'm just talking shit. But I can also understand how if you now have a. A boyfriend or a husband, how they could kind of look at our relationship and be like, yo, what's up? With y'all, man.

[Julian]

Like, so if you get a girlfriend and she has a certain problem with, like, your female friend, do you check her or are you going to check.

[Mal]

I'm checking her. You not. You don't. You're not coming in here regulating my relationship with my female friends, like. Cause I'm gonna tell you who I slept with and who I didn't. I'll tell you, like, nah, me and her hooked up a few years ago. Yeah. Nah, for sure. Yeah. I'm not that type of. I'm not a dirtbag. I'll let you know. But if it's literally a platonic homegirl and you have an issue with me, like, our relationship. Oh, you can. You can stick step. I'm not about to. On my homegirl for you. You bugging that we not doing that. That's not. That's not happening. So I do want it. I know it's real and it exists. But I can also understand how significant others be like, yo, I ain't comfortable with you going to LA to see your depressed friend for a couple days. Like. And then I look up on. I gotta look up on the gram and see y'all at the. The house of mirrors and shit, having a good time like that.

[Julian]

House of mirrors.

[Mal]

Y'all niggas is outside every day. Fucking shit.

[Julian]

Sean calling you like, yeah, you n.

[Mal]

Is in highlight room. You niggas is in motherfucking crustaceans. All kind of shit. And I'm just at the crib like, nah, get the fuck out of here, man. We not doing that.

[Rory]

You at West Hollywood, Soho House, have a lunch.

[Mal]

Yeah. Nah, y'all out. Just. Just Gallivan hitting every spot. And I'm just at home, like, post.

[Rory]

Photos of you at the therapist.

[Mal]

Yeah. So now I'm on your line. I'm FaceTiming like, he's still depressed. Like, what's up with him? What's his energy? Like, what's his energy like? Yeah, like, what we doing? Like, you ain't about to.

[Rory]

I'll allow like a Runyon Canyon. Like, sometimes you depress. You got to get blood flowing in like you guys want to. That's cool.

[Mal]

Yeah, but we not about to just be sitting at tables with.

[Rory]

If you. If you at Guna show at the Staples center.

[Mal]

Like, not going to see DOA and all of that at the.

[Julian]

No, but that's what you. When somebody is.

[Mal]

We're not going to see do at the Crypto. Cuz you depressed.

[Damaris]

Who else is going to get you out of the depression?

[Julian]

You need, like, you got to. You take them to, like, call 1-800- better help.

[Rory]

That's not even a number.

[Mal]

Oh, that's not the number.

[Julian]

If my homeboy depressed, it's either about some money or some. So what I'mma do is take him to places that got money, and I'mma take him to Delaware.

[Mal]

Or if you my girl, I'mma tell you to tell that to go get some money and then go get some.

[Rory]

It's a package deal.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, but you ain't going to go out there and be like, yo, you got to get some money. Because. No, I could tell that. That all the way from New York. Yo, pass me the phone, fam. Listen, check this out. You depressed. Go get some money. Work out and go get some.

[Rory]

And don't do that, cuz. You left us at Delilah's because you was depressed.

[Mal]

Yeah, we. We was.

[Rory]

Me and you, we took you to Delilah's. We didn't even want to go there.

[Mal]

Yeah, you in the bathroom room on the phone, screaming, doing, doing. Doing. Doing damage control.

[Julian]

I was. I already told y'all what I was doing in that bathroom, but.

[Mal]

Okay, I forgot what you said. My story. Yeah, my story. My story sounds better.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I thought she was arguing.

[Julian]

Just depressed, you know, Best friend had died two months earlier. Yeah. Remember that?

[Mal]

Damn. Why you always gotta go there, baby?

[Julian]

Because y'all just be throwing out my jacket. Y'all not about to make it seem like I was in Delilah's in la on the phone with a do a D. Damage control.

[Rory]

That's what I thought was happening, that I didn't know you were grieving your friend.

[Julian]

Get home. I'm Big Mama. Click.

[Mal]

You talking about.

[Rory]

You talking about you wasn't Big Mama till Lotto called herself that last week.

[Julian]

First of all, it was the. That's been calling me big mama since 2016.

[Mal]

Get your shit off.

[Julian]

Baby, please know that.

[Mal]

Get your off.

[Julian]

Thank you.

[Rory]

Oh, we thought you were arguing. I didn't know you was grieving a friend in the bathroom. My bad. We thought you was arguing with a man.

[Julian]

Oh, bro, when you ever know me to be in the bathroom, hiding, arguing with, not hiding.

[Rory]

But it was Delilah's.

[Mal]

Loud in there.

[Julian]

It was mad niggas in Delilah's.

[Mal]

Yeah, but you.

[Julian]

Yeah, they was everywhere.

[Mal]

In the bathroom, on the phone. He saw you was in dollas. He was like, yo, so that's what you doing? You in Delilah's. Who you with?

[Julian]

Do what?

[Mal]

I'm with Rory and Maul. Yeah, I know you can't Even get that off no more.

[Damaris]

Yes, I can.

[Mal]

You with Rory and Maul at the same time. At the same time, away from the studio.

[Rory]

Just make sure you hit me when you get that live off. So I know to say you was with me.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yo, someone. Oh God, they just reminded me. Someone I'm not gonna. I'll tell you guys after saying that. No, someone I know.

[Rory]

You've had the sniffles all episodes. You've been quiet.

[Damaris]

Sinus thing. I feel like, dog. The someone I know asked me to be their cover. Be like, yo, last night was crazy. And I was like, I wasn't with you last night. And I wasn't caught on because I just was like, unaware. I'm usually just so. Got to a point where he texted me like four times in a row. Being like, yo, last night was nuts, right? I was like. I was in bed by like 10 o'clock.

[Julian]

You're literally the worst.

[Damaris]

So then he called me and then. Or no, did I text her? He called me and I was like, what the going on, man? He told me, he's like, I need you to cover that. He said, I'm gonna text you guys. Like, leave me at it. No, because he told you to play.

[Mal]

And you didn't want to run to play girl too.

[Damaris]

And I like, I don't want to be the guy. Like, just leave me out. Pick a different friend. That's pretty much what I told him. Just pick someone else. I don't want to be that guy.

[Julian]

When I got to be in this girl fate.

[Damaris]

I have nothing against her and I don't want her think away of me.

[Rory]

Has it been repeat behavior? Then I can start to see, like, all right, stop. Stop doing your and bringing me into it. If there's one time.

[Mal]

Yeah, you get a pat like, as.

[Rory]

A friend, you should just that one time. Like, if he keeps doing this, then I understand.

[Damaris]

It was the first time he asked of it for me, but I know the type of time that he's on.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

Okay. Got you.

[Mal]

He's a piece of.

[Damaris]

So I just didn't want to be involved. It was like 7:30 in the morning. I don't want to have to like, remember story. Like it just knows. Pick someone else.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what I tell people about. Like, that's why I don't. Like, I don't. I can't lie because you have to remember every lie and keep lying on top of that lie. I can't do it.

[Julian]

You will cover for me, Ma.

[Mal]

For you.

[Julian]

You un. Cover for me. Yeah. All right.

[Mal]

Hell yeah. You ain't got to keep talking to them. You date. Well, then when they going to see me and talk to me like it's going to be one time like, yo.

[Julian]

Yeah, Julian, just shut the up. Just shut the up.

[Rory]

And it's easy to cover for you because the one time I tried to get cool with a guy you were talking to, you deaded it right away.

[Julian]

And you called him the wrong bro.

[Damaris]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Rory]

That's not what happened. That's not what. That's not what happened. That's not. She's sort of right. She's just gassing it a little bit. She's correct.

[Julian]

Damn. What is wrong with you?

[Rory]

Oh, yeah, the anniversary just passed two years ago. Just. It just happened last yesterday. Two years ago.

[Mal]

That's crazy. I don't know what y'all talking about. I'm out. I don't know what y'all talking about. I'm on the outside of inside joke right now. Somebody let me inside.

[Rory]

I thought we talked about this on the pod.

[Damaris]

Already talked about.

[Julian]

Yeah, but you didn't have to start going giving exact dates. Rory.

[Mal]

Oh, he tom stamped it like what's good.

[Julian]

What's wrong with homie?

[Rory]

10 years ago Sunday.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Oh, that was your first album. That was your debut.

[Rory]

You added the sauce in there. I just said the anniversary.

[Julian]

Anyway, Rory just.

[Rory]

I didn't say Rory said.

[Julian]

Yo. I remember I met you. It wasn't him.

[Rory]

Good to see you or something.

[Julian]

Yeah, no, you said, I remember I met you from 2011. Wrong. Just nobody asked you nothing.

[Mal]

Oh, you did.

[Damaris]

Damn, you jumped out.

[Mal]

Wow. Damn, you jumped out.

[Rory]

I was. No, I felt really bad.

[Damaris]

Oh, that's so awkward.

[Rory]

That's not even my.

[Mal]

My.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's not my style.

[Mal]

That's a rookie move. Why would you do that?

[Rory]

Because I really thought that was the guy that met. Like I was that confident and I thought I was doing her like a favor. Like all she does is. Is, you know, talk about you.

[Julian]

No, they're very diverse. My. My past ones I have no now not a in sight.

[Mal]

But it's always a in sight.

[Julian]

No, it's a.

[Mal]

It's just a looking right now.

[Julian]

Nah, I don't got my contacts in. I don't see him. He might see me.

[Mal]

Yeah. Okay.

[Damaris]

I'm right here.

[Rory]

One of one of my home girls that's now now happily married. Peach knows her. Happily married with two or three kids now. She did a big switch. She was in a long term relationship but kept her dude away from us forever. Then they broke up and she got immediately into a new relationship and brought the dude around. And all of us were like, yo, we've been hearing so much. It's so good to finally meet you. And he just kept. He handled it like a fucking G. He whispered in all of our ears every time we that yo, I'm the new guy. I know she just got out of a long term relationship. I'm not him. He said that to about 15 of us because all was like, yo, it's so good to finally meet you, bro.

[Julian]

Why y'all ain't pass the message along?

[Rory]

Why she should have passed the message to us.

[Damaris]

Telephone.

[Mal]

Yeah. How she could have been a new relationship that fast right away meet the she'd been talking about for years.

[Julian]

It'd be like that.

[Damaris]

I don't really trust people like that.

[Rory]

And she kept homing away from us forever.

[Damaris]

Serial date.

[Rory]

So then finally was just like. Like we thought it was him.

[Mal]

That's the. She was cheating on her other with that.

[Rory]

That might. That might have been it.

[Mal]

That's exactly what exactly. That's. That was she wanted the whole time. She finally found her out of the relationship. She found a way to get out. She got out of.

[Rory]

You're married with kids now.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's who she always wanted to marry.

[Rory]

But he handled that so well. Like quietly, like, I know she's got a relationship.

[Mal]

I'm a new.

[Rory]

I'm the new guy.

[Julian]

Why would you let your boyfriend keep you from your husband?

[Mal]

That's a fact. Same way I wouldn't let my girlfriend keep me from my wife.

[Julian]

See, it should be like that though. I can't. If you leave me and go marry. If you cheat on me and then go marry the and have kids with her and y'all together forever. Bro. You made the right decision. I can't be mad at you about that. I could be hurt, but I can't say that you up. You knew what you wanted. I wasn't it.

[Mal]

Yeah. I don't know if it's that easy to just.

[Julian]

No, it's not easy. I'm gonna cry in the car. But at the end of the day. At the end of the day, make.

[Rory]

The best decision for you ugly cry.

[Mal]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julian]

Just because somebody hurts you doesn't mean that they're a shitty person. Sometimes you got to get hurt. Sometimes you're the villain in other people's stories.

[Mal]

No, don't hurt me.

[Julian]

Be the hero of your own story.

[Damaris]

Isn't that like a Johnny Walker slogan or Something or a modello.

[Julian]

It was a. It was a. A brand of you.

[Damaris]

The hero of your own journey.

[Julian]

Yeah, we used to partner with that brand, Captain Morgan.

[Mal]

Somebody said that.

[Julian]

I don't know who we. Who we were.

[Rory]

What was Hennessy's when I was at Havas. Be everything you can be.

[Mal]

That's the army.

[Rory]

I know. I think Hennessy took it too. No, that's be all you can be. Hennessy was like, be everything you could be.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. All right. The army might call him for, like, copyright infringement. That's too close to our slogan.

[Rory]

All right, we can start to wrap up. I do want to know what that Hennessy journey was, but.

[Mal]

Well, I do want y'all to know that we will be in a city near you soon. Hopefully somewhere near y'all. Newroarimal.com Tickets available now for the live show. July 2020 5th. We will be in Philly at the City Winery. Tickets available now. Can't wait to get down there and see the beautiful people of Philadelphia State property reunion.

[Rory]

That mall is putting together as we speak.

[Mal]

That's a lie. But, hey, it act like you act like it's not. Act like it's true. And we hope, hopefully, we'll see y'all soon. Merch will be available at the show. New merch will be available at the show. And yeah, man.

[Rory]

Never stop, never settle.

[Damaris]

Come as you are. Leave is more, more.

[Rory]

Who said that?

[Damaris]

These are all Hennessy campaign slogans over the years.

[Rory]

Never stop, never settle was the one I was around for.

[Damaris]

Together we are unstoppable.

[Julian]

Appropriately complex. Oh, I'm gonna put that as my Instagram name.

[Rory]

Shout out to Voss. Well, that was our client. We came up with all this.

[Mal]

All right, well, we back in. We'll be back in a couple of days.

[Rory]

Are we. Are we allowed to do our sign off? I feel like Eminem's took it.

[Mal]

Hell, yeah, we're going to do our sign off.

[Rory]

Nah, m stole. It's dead for us now.

[Mal]

We'll talk to you in a couple of days. Be safe, be blessed. Enjoy the rest of your week. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace, no worry. And now.