Episode 290 | A Lil' Boat Leaks

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 290 | A Lil' Boat Leaks

Release Date: August 2, 2024
Hosts: Rory & Mal
Platform: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Personal Stories and Relationships

The episode opens with Rory and Mal sharing a lighthearted inside joke about "90 day D," teasing listeners to check their Patreon for the full story. This segues into Mal recounting an amusing experience where Damaris compliments a woman's hair smell, leading to a playful exchange about holding hands.

• Quote:
  Rory [00:05]: "Graciousness, gracious preciousness, gracious."

2. Concert Experience and Lucali's Pizza

Rory narrates their recent outing to see Liana Lahavis in Brooklyn, highlighting the unique venue—a historic church still retaining its altar. The group praises the acoustics and the emotional impact of the performance, with Rory admitting to shedding a tear during the show.

• Quote:
  Rory [02:11]: "I think I cried during Lost and Found."

Post-concert, Rory, Damaris, and Yomi encounter another Damaris, Prince's muse, leading to a humorous mix-up. They also share their delightful dining experience at Lucali's Pizza, lauding the owner's laid-back approach and the exceptional quality of the food.

• Quote:
  Mal [06:41]: "Mark, the owner, he sat with us. We had this table in the back at the garden. He sat with us, ate with us, told us stories."

3. Best Female Vocalist Debate

The conversation transitions to a lively debate about the best female vocalist of all time. Damaris introduces a fictional scenario involving a discussion between the hosts and guest Scottie Beam about artists like Adele and Selena.

• Quote:
  Damaris [09:30]: "So we're talking about it, and we get into the Adele versus Seline conversation."

4. Jay Z vs Nas Debate

A significant portion of the episode delves into the merits of Jay Z and Nas as lyricists. Rory posits that Nas is underrated in terms of lyrical prowess, sparking a heated exchange with Julian, who defends Jay Z's accolades and reputation.

• Quote:
  Rory [11:34]: "I don't think people think he's a bad lyricist. I just don't think he gets the revere as far as just lyrics go."

5. Yachty and Music Sampling Discussion

The hosts discuss Yachty's controversial comments about leaking a record without properly clearing samples. They debate the ethics of sampling music and the responsibilities artists have regarding their creations.

• Quote:
  Rory [34:14]: "I don't know if you know him, but he's doing a righteous path of God and didn't want his song being sampled in a record that's about super soaking pussy or something."

6. Fyre Fest 2 and Future Plans

The topic shifts to the infamous Fyre Fest, with the hosts speculating about the potential sequel. They express skepticism about the organizers' intentions and joke about attending if given the chance.

• Quote:
  Julian [62:22]: "They started with just 100. Was available pre sale."

7. Podcasting and Personal Life Challenges

Rory, Julian, and Mal explore the challenges of balancing podcasting with personal relationships. They discuss how their on-air personalities can affect real-life interactions and dating prospects.

8. Listener Interaction: Marriage Dilemma

A listener named "E" shares a personal dilemma involving a woman's fantasy of watching him with another girl. The hosts and co-host Damaris offer advice on communication, boundaries, and handling such kinks within a marriage.

• Quote:
  Damaris [100:30]: "If you are comfortable with it, if this is one of your girl's kinks, I definitely think that you should try it out."

9. Discussions on Dating and Kinks

The conversation continues around the complexities of kinks in relationships, emphasizing the importance of mutual consent and understanding. They touch on societal perceptions and the stigma surrounding certain sexual preferences.

• Quote:
  Damaris [100:30]: "Make sure that your girl wants to watch you someone else but her cuck also isn't. She wants another dude."

10. Roller Skating Plans and Events

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts discuss upcoming roller skating events in Brooklyn, expressing enthusiasm for attending together. They joke about combining their love for skating with their podcasting activities.

• Quote:
  Damaris [111:19]: "I'll pull up the list."

11. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Episodes

In their closing remarks, Rory and Julian reflect on the various topics covered and tease future episodes, including a planned interview with a guest from the Jersey Shore. They encourage listeners to engage via Patreon and Discord for more exclusive content.

• Quote:
  Julian [115:31]: "Tickets on sale now. New Rory Mall dot com."

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Notable Highlights:

• Concert Venue Praise:
  Rory [02:37]: "Crazy venue. I mean, it's an old church in Brooklyn that they do live performances at."

• Lucali's Pizza Experience:
  Julian [07:46]: "He just Googled Damaris and just thought this was you."

• Jay Z vs Nas Integrity:
  Damaris [14:16]: "Nobody's arguing that Jay is better than Nas. Like, we all agree on that issue over here."

• Yachty's Sampling Ethics:
  Mal [35:31]: "Music is supposed to be sampled. Somebody can draw inspiration from something you created and then put their spin on it."

• Listener's Marriage Advice:
  Damaris [100:30]: "Trust is the number one thing. If you don't trust each other, you shouldn't be doing anything."

Conclusion:

Episode 290 of "New Rory & MAL" offers a blend of personal anecdotes, in-depth music discussions, and engaging listener interactions. From dissecting the lyrical prowess of legendary rappers to navigating complex relationship dynamics, Rory and Mal provide an entertaining and insightful conversation that resonates with both long-time fans and new listeners alike. Tune in to their next episode for more candid dialogue and exclusive guest interviews.

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Transcript

[Rory]

No worry and now love it when you smile.

[Mal]

You're showing goodness.

[Rory]

Graciousness, gracious preciousness, gracious. Yo, mom, your girl 90 day D last night was on. Was on. What the yo? And I know no one will get that inside joke unless you listen to our Patreon next week, but 90 day.

[Mal]

D was outside just looking for 90 Ds.

[Rory]

Telling women that their hair smelled good. Trying to hold yomi's hand was a horn fest. Couldn't control her girl's hair.

[Damaris]

She had really curly hair. Her hair smelled amazing. We were in a hot room. I had a church fan, and I was fanning, obviously, the aroma from her hair into my nose. And I was like, oh, wow, your hair smells really good. And she was like, oh, thank you. Her hair smelled good. And then yomi, we were walking so close to each other, our, like, knuckles kept bumping. I said, damn, yomi, you wanna hold my hand? So she started holding my hand.

[Rory]

Well, she kind of denied that she wanted to, and then she held it. But I respect shoot or shoot. Like, after the turn down from Yomi, that didn't. What I did was stop you. You went right to the girl with the curly hair.

[Julian]

You know what? That's whack. Because if I said that to a girl, you would have killed me for that.

[Rory]

What?

[Julian]

What?

[Damaris]

That her hair smell good?

[Julian]

About to look like, damn, your hair smell good. And then I was bumping knuckles with a girl walking down the hallway and said, yo, you want to hold my hand? Just hold my hand.

[Rory]

That would be sick.

[Julian]

You would have killed me for that.

[Rory]

I don't think telling a girl her hair smells good is that bad. It can come across creepy.

[Julian]

The marriage would kill me.

[Damaris]

Told me my hands smelled good the first time we met.

[Julian]

Your hand.

[Damaris]

My hands? Yeah, you smelled my hand. I had just put YSL lotion on it. You was like, oh, what's that? That smells good. And you sniffed my hand.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Julian]

Yeah, but I mean, I never knew that.

[Rory]

Now I'm uncomfortable.

[Mal]

That was the first time.

[Damaris]

Well, it was his.

[Rory]

Why did you stay with this company?

[Julian]

She's putting lotion. And I just said, oh, your hands smell good. And she's rubbing lotion on her hands like, yeah, that.

[Damaris]

It was at our. We were shooting skit when we shot the skit. The therapist. The therapist.

[Rory]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was fun. But, yeah, me, Damaris and yoms went to see Liana Lahavis in Brooklyn. Great show.

[Julian]

How was that?

[Rory]

I mean, I've had a crush on her since 2012. So I was fanning out. I think I cried during Lost and Found.

[Julian]

Really?

[Rory]

Yeah. I think a tear was shed, for sure. One of my favorites, for sure.

[Julian]

How was the show?

[Rory]

It was really, really good. And St. Anne's Church, was it.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Crazy venue. I mean, it's an old church in Brooklyn that they do live performances at, but they didn't gut anything. Like, the altar's still there.

[Julian]

That's fire.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

So the acoustics are great.

[Rory]

Insane.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Had all of us singing along. Sounded great.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

And we were definitely off key, but it sounded great, so.

[Julian]

Right. The Holy Spirit will is auto tune.

[Damaris]

Move through us for sure.

[Julian]

He didn't even know the Holy Spirit was auto tune.

[Rory]

But I always feel like Catholicism doesn't deserve the acoustics of these churches with.

[Julian]

All the nastiness that goes on.

[Rory]

Well, outside of the obvious there.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

Instead of just, you know, shifting them around from parish to parish.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Catholicism. Our songs stink. Like, they're not good. They're very monotone, and it's very like. Like, we don't need all this. Give this to the Baptist church.

[Damaris]

Oh, the Baptist church will go acoustics.

[Mal]

The acoustics in there.

[Julian]

See the Baptist church, we don't need them acoustics, though. She cuz all the choir director got to do is look at you one time and you know, you flat. You. You'll pull yourself together. See, See, in the Catholic church, choir director don't even look at you.

[Rory]

Why is every drummer at a Baptist church the greatest drummer I've ever seen in my life.

[Julian]

That's that soul, man.

[Damaris]

And they ass crack.

[Rory]

Always out 100, sweating their ass.

[Julian]

Well, I mean, you know, sometimes you gotta let your ass crack out for Jesus.

[Rory]

Let it breathe.

[Julian]

Let the ass out.

[Rory]

But it was a fun night. And then we were gonna go backstage to meet Liana and Demer's like, I'm gonna go to the corner store. I'll get us some stuff for the ride back. Like, I don't need to do that. So me and yoms go back there, and the first person we see is like, this gorgeous, gorgeous, tall woman sitting on, like, an amp case, just giving the greatest aura ever. I didn't want to be rude, so I said, hey, how you doing, Rory? And she said, I'm Damaris. And I said, oh, that's crazy. We have a friend, Damaris, but she just left. She's like, can you go find Damaris? Like, that could be my twin. I've never met another Damaris. So we tell Damaris the story. She's like, that bitch I'm the number one. Damaris. What the fuck? I would never want to meet her. And then Diani comes out. Diani comes out and goes, you know who that was, right? I was like, yeah, Damaris. She's like, no, for real. It's like, no, that's Damaris, who is Prince's muse. Like, she was floating on top of the case, and I didn't understand why.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But once I found out she was Prince's muse, I was like, oh, now I understand why you can levitate.

[Julian]

That's the Demaris that Azealia thought was on our show when she heard Damaris name.

[Mal]

That's hilarious.

[Julian]

He just Googled Damaris and just thought this was. This was you.

[Rory]

We would have her on.

[Damaris]

Was that the one you met Rory?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Okay, so that was Damaris Lewis. That's what I thought.

[Rory]

That blew my mind. Like, had I known that was Princess Muse, I wouldn't have said anything. But it would have been cool to.

[Julian]

Know in the moment why you wouldn't have said anything.

[Rory]

What would you say? Yo, heard you're a good muse for the greatest artist ever.

[Damaris]

I wasn't gonna let you get one more muse.

[Mal]

You keep saying muse. It's like mucus museum.

[Damaris]

Like, almost, like, with a Z.

[Julian]

It's okay. Yeah, but it's. I mean, you could have had a nice conversation with her about music and just the arts.

[Rory]

Well, she was cool because she was asking, like, did you guys enjoy the show? Because it was awkward. Like, I didn't want to do that because I hate when people come into our green room.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, we perform. Like, I'm tired. So she made. She made it less awkward, I feel like. But the show was great. We had a good time.

[Julian]

Then we linked up because I think her and she went to, I think LaGuardia, right.

[Rory]

I don't know her whole life.

[Mal]

She's from Brooklyn, so I think her.

[Julian]

And Azalea went to school together.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Julian]

Because that's why Azalea was like, I went to school with Damaris.

[Rory]

She kept saying, oh, yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, yep, yep.

[Rory]

She went.

[Julian]

So Azealia kept saying, I went to school. I'm like, I wouldn't know if you went to school.

[Damaris]

I don't know you, man.

[Julian]

I wouldn't know if you went to school with Damaris. I wouldn't know that.

[Mal]

Damn. She signed with the lead.

[Rory]

That was a good big pun call back there, Damaris. After that, we went to the city, linked with Julian and Bass and some other Dreamville people. And all the dreams, tension, everything is Cool.

[Mal]

We're way past that.

[Rory]

We all hugged it out. I was a little nervous in the beginning, but everyone came with open arms.

[Julian]

That beef back on? Yo, J. Cole, you. Yo.

[Mal]

Yeah, I had dinner at Lucali's. It was the most incredible experience.

[Julian]

The most incredible.

[Rory]

I want to hate, but I've never been, and I really do want to go.

[Julian]

You never been to Lucali?

[Mal]

It was so fucking good. And thank you. Mark, the owner, he sat with us. We had this table in the. In the back at the garden. He sat with us, ate with us, told us stories. He was. He's hilarious. Rory said. Like, he watched an interview of him saying, you know, he's not a culinary expert at all. Like, he just does whatever feels right. And people are like, you know, how do you get this? And how do you do the flavor? And he's like, I don't. I just do it. Like, he's like, very much. That's him. Like, it's just whatever.

[Damaris]

He's not pretentious.

[Mal]

He's. No, there's not a ounce of protest. Like, I asked him, I was like, these. The basil's so great. And I noticed some basil leaves behind us. I was like, are they picked from your.

[Julian]

Great.

[Mal]

I said, are they picked from your garden? He goes, I don't fucking.

[Julian]

You wanted to pick his garden?

[Mal]

I would have, yeah.

[Julian]

The basil is so good.

[Rory]

You got to see the interview. I think it was like New York Times or one of those years ago, and it was some woman, and she's like, the greatest pizza in New York City. The most hype pizza you can get. The line is around the corner, takes a month. He's like, yeah. He's like, can you show us how you make a pizza? Like, I just. I put dough there.

[Mal]

Yeah. He still rolled. They still roll it out with a wine bottle. When he opened, he didn't have a roller, so he just been using wine. And they. It's ever since. They've still kept that.

[Julian]

They still bring your own bottle.

[Mal]

Yep. I brought. Yeah, we brought. We brought a bunch of wine. It was great. Matt from WME was with us at the table. He was the reason why we were able to go there. He was a great guy. It was a really fun time.

[Julian]

Locally is definitely highly recommend. Some of the best pizza I've ever had in the city.

[Rory]

It does live up to the hype.

[Mal]

We had two pizzas. We had a starter, like salad. Two salads, two pizzas and a calzone. I've never had that much dough based product and left not feeling Disgusting. Like the calzone. I've never had a thin calzone. It was so fucking good. Yeah, but I can go on.

[Julian]

Food is great.

[Mal]

It was great. And then, yeah, we. We went up and met up with them.

[Damaris]

Mal. I discovered last night.

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

That all of our dearly beloved friends are washed. Let me tell you. Let me. Let me paint the scene for you. We're in a nice bar. There's nice disco lighting, smooth R and B is playing. The drinks are flowing.

[Julian]

This sounds like a porn scene, but go ahead. M. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Damaris]

It's cool.

[Julian]

Fell asleep on Spank Bang last night. My bad. Damn.

[Mal]

I haven't heard that.

[Julian]

And 90 day D. I'm sorry. Go ahead, baby.

[Damaris]

D. I'm just setting the scene, right? We're having a conversation, and we get into our best female vocalist of all time conversation. Cause we had Scottie Beam with us, and I was telling her about the draft. So she, you know, she was giving me her opinion, whatever. I showed her our list, our graphic. And you said what?

[Rory]

Patreon.com?

[Damaris]

Yeah, you got to go to Patreon to see this draft that we did for the best female vocalist of all.

[Mal]

Time available on all tiers.

[Damaris]

So we're talking about it, and we get into the Adele versus Seline conversation. Now, Scotty's on Seline's side, right? So we're sitting in this beautiful ambiance, arguing R and B. Okay, wait.

[Julian]

So Scotty agrees Selena is a better vocalist than Adele?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

Everybody whose music opinion I respect or musicianship I respect says, I'm out of my mind.

[Julian]

Okay?

[Rory]

So I think I might have to take this out.

[Julian]

So y'all respect everybody but me. No, you didn't. Y'all laughed me out the room.

[Damaris]

Nobody laughed you out the room.

[Julian]

Are you crazy?

[Rory]

I was like, harlem Boy Fire Mall I may agree with, but that's not. That was another lifetime, like we said.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Okay, so. So Scotty says, what now?

[Damaris]

Scotty says that she thinks that Celine was better, right? But no, then Julian, who is inebriated, obviously, and he comes. He sits down next to me. Yomi Scotty, like, on a level of bad bitches. The bad bitchery is high, right? He comes and sits down and says.

[Rory]

Like, since y'all are not named, you.

[Julian]

Wasn'T sitting on the.

[Rory]

You wasn't we established yesterday I was a bad bitch. I'm part of the crew now.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you were. We'll get into that.

[Rory]

I was inducted, man.

[Damaris]

That's a whole other thing. But listen, so Julian comes over. I was like, yeah. You know, since we're talking music, I didn't the whole Nas conversation with Jay.

[Rory]

Z, not how it started. Me and Diani were talking about underrated vocalists and I was like, I know it sounds like a crazy take, but I think Beyonce is underrated as a vocalist. The same way I think Jay Z is underrated as a lyricist.

[Damaris]

Yes, that is. Yes.

[Rory]

And I know it sounds like an insane take, but I really do think.

[Julian]

That Jay is not underrated.

[Damaris]

I don't. I don't think people respect his in.

[Julian]

The songwriters hall of Fame.

[Rory]

I mean.

[Julian]

What do you mean?

[Rory]

What he sounds kiss.

[Damaris]

I told him he was wrong. I told him he was wrong.

[Julian]

So is kissing songs.

[Rory]

You don't think people like the nerdy underground hip hop? Real hip hop fans put like a black thought doom. All these people way above Jay. Like, they respect Jay, but they don't give him the lyric credit that they give other rappers.

[Julian]

Yeah, but you talking to one specific audience, everybody's not going to agree. But I think that when you say underrated. No, I think more rate Jay is a great lyricist than underrate him.

[Rory]

I don't think people think he's a bad lyricist. I just don't think he gets the revere as far as just lyrics go. Like, I think he's just as good as any crazy lyricist that you can think of. Yeah, but like, I think he's up there with Pharaoh. Like I. I really think Jay. Is that that good?

[Julian]

Yeah, I mean, but I'm just speaking to you saying underrated. I don't think he's underrated. I think he's obviously been given all of the accolades, all of the praise he's had. Won the most Grammys or nominated the most times for Grammys. Something like that. I mean, he has his accolades and his flowers, but when you speak to the underground scene, that's more doom and Pharaoh.

[Rory]

I like the corny that read Pitchfork every day.

[Julian]

Yeah, like, that's a very.

[Rory]

Like me.

[Julian]

That's a very specific audience you're talking to. So maybe they don't rate him that high, but everybody else rates.

[Damaris]

Overall, he's not over anyways, he's not underrated.

[Rory]

Beside the point that we were really getting to Julian then sits down and is like, Nas is so trash compared to Jay.

[Mal]

Not what I said.

[Rory]

Then what you say?

[Mal]

I said, I don't think it's fair to compare Nas and Jay.

[Rory]

Compare?

[Julian]

Why not?

[Mal]

I think Jay's much better.

[Julian]

But you can still compare them. Same error.

[Rory]

I just you know what? It's all coming back to me now. We said that HOV was better than Nas, and Julian sat down to argue Nas was overrated. He agreed with.

[Damaris]

He. He said Nas was overrate. And then when we would get on him about the Nas is overrated, he said, I don't know why you are yelling at me. It's obvious that Jay is better than Nas. I said, nobody's arguing that Jay is better than Nas. Like we all agree on that issue over here saying that Nas is overrated. So then. No, no, no. So then what? I said you. Yes, you did, Julian. You said that Nas was overrated.

[Mal]

My argument is I don't think it's fair to compare the two. Because when you compare, when you're comparing people, you're insinuating that they're in the same class. I don't think Nas should be compared to Jake. I think Jay's in a different class.

[Damaris]

But they. Nobody's today as far as rapper, as.

[Julian]

Far as artists, as far as y.

[Mal]

The whole thing.

[Julian]

Success, accolades, the whole thing.

[Damaris]

Nobody was comparing. Nobody compares them today. People compared them when they were being compared. They were. They were equal. They could have been compared when they were being compared.

[Mal]

They're always going to be compared.

[Damaris]

Now, people don't sit up there and argue, Nas and Jay Z, we do.

[Mal]

It all the time.

[Julian]

Not that people don't argue. I think it's. It's because both of those gentlemen are. They're both legacy acts at this point. Anything they do now is just a victory lap.

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julian]

They're not trying to prove anything. They're cemented in history. They are forever connected to each other. Like, you can't talk. What Jay did for hip hop and Nas name not come up in that story at some point. Yeah, but I mean, I think Nas is underrated. I think he's just starting to get his flowers. Like, he just won a Grammy, his first Grammy a couple years ago, like, and he's had classic albums over 20 years.

[Rory]

But then Julian did what everyone does when they know they made an awful take but want to die on the hill. I'm guilty of it too. I do it all the time.

[Damaris]

Name three songs from Magic.

[Rory]

You realize you're wrong, but you just gotta die right on that hill.

[Mal]

That was his argument.

[Rory]

First point was, you can't name any song. I was like, what does that do with anything?

[Mal]

That is a blatant, flat out lie. Rory said, if you love Jay so much, name three songs off Reasonable Down. He started that and I said, Name three songs. I said name three songs. So are we.

[Rory]

Are we. That is a bad.

[Mal]

Are we arguing retaining in and reciting lyrics in. In song titles as a barometer of success, or are we just talking about the artist?

[Rory]

You then deeper in the conversation, brought.

[Mal]

Up the name, the artist name, and.

[Rory]

I realized, oh, you are debating about an artist you've never listened to that you can't be in this conversation because you don't listen to Nas.

[Mal]

I don't listen to Nas religiously.

[Rory]

Your point should be, I prefer Jay Z because I only listen to Jay Z and don't listen to Nas.

[Julian]

Who's your favorite rapper, Julian, of all time? Yeah, the J. Okay.

[Rory]

Yeah, same.

[Julian]

I don't feel like. I feel like I didn't know.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's Jack.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

But then joined, discredited 20 years legacy and went to a magic album. What was.

[Julian]

I said, Jay Z or J. Cole? You said Jay. That's.

[Rory]

I had to say Jay. We don't really know.

[Julian]

Yeah, I had to figure out which Jay you was talking about. My bad.

[Mal]

Come on.

[Rory]

That's Jermaine.

[Julian]

Or not Jermaine or Sean.

[Rory]

Like J. Cole or Nas.

[Damaris]

Yo.

[Mal]

Oh, yo, J. Cole or not. I mean, I listen to Cole, I.

[Rory]

Don'T listen to Nas, but that was our biggest argument.

[Damaris]

That shit was.

[Rory]

So you're trying to have a debate with an artist that you're not well versed in.

[Damaris]

And that's what started. That's what started the screaming match. Because he was saying Nas is overrated. And I said, oh, you just don't listen to Nas and that's okay. Like, you don't listen to Nas, that's fine. But don't say that he's overrated. He's not overrated. He's not better than Jay, but he's not overrated. And he said, you don't fucking listen to Nas. Da, da, da. And he's. That's when the whole.

[Mal]

No one at the table listens to Nas.

[Damaris]

That's when the whole name, artist name.

[Rory]

Did you name any songs from Reasonable Doubt, if that's your guy, pause for a big pregnant pause. And then went, feel it, feel it.

[Mal]

Feeling it, feel it.

[Rory]

You said feel it.

[Mal]

Three songs off Illmatic and he named the entire track.

[Damaris]

He didn't off Illmatic. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. He didn't name.

[Rory]

The World Is Yours. I could do it in sequence. Order.

[Mal]

The magic albums are my favorite.

[Rory]

I said, it ain't hard to tell.

[Mal]

How many magics are out. Three of them. I said, Name one song off each one. Can't do it.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

It was a night to do it.

[Damaris]

Mall couldn't do it Off. Mall couldn't name it.

[Julian]

You could put the album in front of me, and I couldn't name the name I'm terrible with.

[Mal]

But then afterwards, because I'm fast forwarding through all the arguments, we were yelling at each other for a while.

[Rory]

Classic moment of no one getting pussy.

[Damaris]

That was my bars closing. They don't get no.

[Rory]

So who to turn the lights on. Bartender's like, yo, I have a wife and kids.

[Mal]

Yeah, they kicked us out. Rory and I were at the bar.

[Julian]

You guys take this beer and get the out.

[Mal]

So. So, Rory, we're walking.

[Rory]

Customer.

[Mal]

We're leaving. And we're walking to Rory's car. And he said. I said, rory, while we're walking, I said, I'm going to get in your car. Play me one Nas song. Couldn't do it.

[Damaris]

What was your one? What was your.

[Julian]

What do you mean he couldn't do it? His phone was dead.

[Mal]

No. So we get in the car. He plays one. He goes, nah, that's not it. And then he plays me, like, six Nas songs. And none of them were the one. None of them were the. Ooh, this is the moment.

[Rory]

He didn't. He didn't like.

[Mal]

He ran through, like, six records.

[Rory]

He didn't like get down by Nas.

[Mal]

I didn't say I don't like get down. I just don't.

[Rory]

You.

[Mal]

The reaction you wanted, it didn't warrant.

[Julian]

That's a crazy. That's a. That's incredible.

[Mal]

I like that song. But then I like.

[Rory]

I know these songs. Recent Nas, his echo verse on the Swizz Project.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Rory]

Nothing. Didn't even.

[Mal]

Well, like, what do you want me to do? Like, what do you. Oh, like, what do you want me to physically do?

[Rory]

At one point, you were trying to compare Nas. You.

[Mal]

You played one record. It's on my face. You're like, no. And then you switch. I forgot.

[Julian]

You know what Nas album is? Is. Is, like, super underrated. The one with him and Damian Marley, I love that.

[Mal]

That's my favorite.

[Julian]

That album is incredible. I was listening to that the other day.

[Mal]

Cause distant strangers. Whatever that. Distant relatives.

[Rory]

I went to the tour.

[Julian]

I couldn't believe how good that I'm like, people never really.

[Mal]

That's right.

[Rory]

Friends was my joint.

[Julian]

That. No. That no Damian Marley album is criminally.

[Mal]

In the one common ground Rory and I had. I. I said. I said, roy, I like one record that I love. I've Always loved this song. And I know it gets a lot of. I loved Hero. Oh, man, I love that song.

[Rory]

And I found one other person on earth that likes that song. I love Hero.

[Mal]

That product. The drums on that music video.

[Rory]

Kerry Hilson went crazy. I know everyone hated that song when it came out.

[Mal]

Why, though? Why did it get hated? I love it.

[Rory]

I didn't.

[Julian]

I didn't like that record.

[Rory]

People just didn't want it from Nas at that time.

[Julian]

I feel like, yeah, I didn't like that record then. I probably still don't like it now if I hear it.

[Rory]

And, like, Polo had the, like, new sound, and I don't think people.

[Julian]

The production was dope.

[Rory]

Incredible producer.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I just don't think people wanted Nas on that sound. Yeah, it was like the new wave, and it was like, all right, older artists doing this.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But, yeah, it was a great night of not getting pussy, where you just start arguing about hip hop.

[Julian]

Who did Diani say, say, had the best vocal team?

[Mal]

I'll pull up the list.

[Damaris]

It was between me and you. Well, that's what she said.

[Julian]

We knew that in the room.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Well, no, according to the comments, we admitted you guys. All right, one.

[Rory]

You guys won the poll. You won the deal. I get it. You guys won.

[Julian]

No, no, no. I just wanted. Because they were talking about it, so I just wanted to hear who. She said.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Had the best list.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she said. She said it was us.

[Rory]

For everyone that's looking at this for the first time or saw it on Instagram yesterday, it was a draft. I drafted bad. I understand.

[Julian]

Yeah. Everybody. I'm like, no, that's not how a draft works. You can't all draft.

[Mal]

I was gon. People don't understand how drafts work. Everyone's like, why isn't Whitney number one across the board?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, do you guys really think. I think Kisha Cole is the fourth greatest vocalist.

[Mal]

Pictor.

[Rory]

Oh, you guys have me up.

[Mal]

It's your list.

[Julian]

What do you mean? But.

[Rory]

What?

[Damaris]

But he's going off of my top, making it seem like that's your top five of all time. And it's not like I have her at number four. It's a draft.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm saying it's a draft. But you still had other people you could have drafted.

[Rory]

I was trying to. I was trying to shake up the draft.

[Mal]

Like, let's see.

[Rory]

I was trying to, like, everyone brown it, and they're trying to play the one next year. Yeah. You ever seen the movie Draft Day? When they don't take the Quarterback. Because there's something wrong. I was. Keisha Cole is my quarterback.

[Julian]

Quarterback is not a piece of off the field. Got it.

[Rory]

That his teammates didn't go to his birthday dinner. So if you guys trying to shake it up.

[Damaris]

If you guys want to see how we came to this conclusion and did our draft, go to our Patreon. Patreon.com newroarianmall and sign up and you can see all of the tiers can see it except for the free members. Free members can't see it.

[Rory]

Granted, I get that the Keisha Cole pick was not the best, but I don't like all the Keisha Cole hate it's been getting on Instagram.

[Mal]

Yeah, you've been getting killed in these comments.

[Julian]

It's just when you say greatest vocalist of all time.

[Rory]

Her and Jeezy didn't make you cry.

[Julian]

No.

[Damaris]

All right, all right, all right.

[Rory]

It was just me.

[Julian]

Yeah, it was just you. Just you crying to that record.

[Damaris]

Speaking of our discord, make sure you guys go on there. We have a special guest coming. Julian, you want to tell them about it?

[Mal]

No, you got to tell him.

[Rory]

Our guy Vinnie from the Jersey Shore. We spoke about him. I forgot how many episodes ago. Yeah, and I guess he heard the clip and he reached out and wants to come on the pod. I'm excited. I have so many Jersey Shore questions. Yeah, but I'm not gonna say him.

[Mal]

Now, so leave voicemails for. For him. Well, I'll be listening to them over the weekend, and we'll have plenty to talk about with him come Tuesday's episode.

[Rory]

Do you know those voicemails are going to be sick?

[Mal]

They're gonna be hilarious. I'm gonna have a really fun time listening to those.

[Rory]

I don't think. Well, I mean, I don't obviously don't know Vinnie, but he doesn't strike me as someone that, like, takes way too serious. Yeah, we should play the Wild ones.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah.

[Rory]

I don't think we should be reserved.

[Julian]

Gotta have some fun, man. We can't. This is not an interview. We're sitting here kicking it. It's gonna be fun to meet Vinnie and talk. Obviously one of the greatest reality TV shows of all time. So it's gonna be fun to sit down and have a conversation and talk some with Vinnie.

[Rory]

Apparently, we have a. A lot of the same tastes in women. I didn't know that. That's. Yeah, Vinnie's thing as well.

[Julian]

He liked the sisters.

[Rory]

That's what I heard.

[Julian]

Oh, okay.

[Rory]

I'm curious what his Italian family in Staten island thinks about that, but, you know, we can ask him on air.

[Julian]

Well, you know, let's have some fun with that. I want. I want to hear y'all have a conversation about the sisters.

[Rory]

Oh, we can't even get off Rap beef yet. I love when there's time just to debate about LL Cool J was on Shannon Sharp's podcast and said the Def Jam Mount Rushmore is ll, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, and Slick Rick. So we were talking off mic, when he says Mount Rushmore, is he just saying, like, the creators the way we have, like, the first few presidents up there?

[Julian]

Well, is this the type that Peach made that point yesterday when we talked about it, like, Mount Rushmore for years has probably been used wrong because it is supposed to be the foundation. The founding fathers.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

So the foundation of Def Jam. I think that LL got that right. As far as himself, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, and Slick Rick, you can't argue it when he says Mount Rushmore, the foundation of Def Jam. But obviously, some people have been feeling like, you know. Cause LL is on. He's been sitting, running around doing different podcasts and interviews, and people are starting to ask him more about, you know, the rumored issues between him and Jay over the years. So here's another chance for him to name Jay Z, who obviously is one of the greatest artists in Def Jam history, one of the greatest businessmen in Def Jam history. So people are looking at it like, here was an opportunity for you to name Jay and give him some flowers, and you didn't.

[Rory]

But I'm giving him bail. Based off PJ's point, I think he was really saying the Mount Rushmore Foundation. But I'm happy to have the conversation of top. Should we do top five? Four is weird.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Top five greatest Def Jam artists in its history.

[Julian]

I like that.

[Rory]

Where do we start? Because I don't want to offend anyone. When I was at Def Jam, Tyle Cruz kept the lights on.

[Mal]

What's that one song?

[Rory]

Big hits. Tayo over there at Island.

[Julian]

Yeah. But I don't know if he's on the Mount Rushmore.

[Rory]

I think ll, regardless, still needs to be there.

[Julian]

First superstar in rap. Absolutely.

[Rory]

I still feel like Public Enemy needs to be there as well.

[Julian]

Not mad at that Hove. Okay.

[Rory]

We're going in the totality of Def Jam.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So hear me out. Kanye West.

[Mal]

Kanye's got to be on there. We can't. Come on. What are we talking about?

[Rory]

And I feel like I have to Put X at 5. What DMX did at Def Jam? No. One has ever done. I'm not mad Rappers, period, had never done that.

[Julian]

Yeah. I think for me, I'm going. LL J, Public Enemy, dmx. It's hard to leave Kanye off.

[Mal]

Shouldn't.

[Julian]

It's hard to leave Kanye off. Yeah, Kanye.

[Rory]

But then is it. Is it disrespectful? Like the Beastie Boys and what they did for Def Jam? I could argue they would be on the Rushmore.

[Julian]

No, I'm not. It's not. Listen, we. We name an hour. Personal.

[Rory]

Pardon my white face saying this. I feel like you can maybe swap Slick Rick for Beastie Boys on LL Cool J's list for the foundation of Def Jam.

[Julian]

Beastie Boys is on the list.

[Rory]

Oh, what?

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

He had him on.

[Rory]

I'm bugging.

[Julian]

Yeah. That's like. Those are the guys he was there with. Absolutely.

[Rory]

I was about to say Beastie Boys not being on the Mount Rushmore. What about you guys? I know Nas isn't on there for you, Julian.

[Mal]

It wasn't on yours either, because he.

[Rory]

Signed to Def Jam. Like.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

That was way later in his career. His peak. He was on Columbia. You got what Big Sean.

[Mal]

All of it's two chains.

[Rory]

Listen, man.

[Mal]

Designer.

[Rory]

Two chains. Help the designer.

[Julian]

Y'all let designer tell y'all he was jerking off on a plane because he was vegan. Y'all let him tell y'all that.

[Damaris]

I'm. I'm trying to find, like, the connection.

[Julian]

You know, I'm vegan, and I'm telling you, there's no connection.

[Rory]

You've never beat off on a plane.

[Julian]

I've never even thought about doing that on the plane.

[Rory]

Well, wasn't he saying that he was, like, dehydrated or like, said he was vegan.

[Damaris]

But you eat honey, though, and honey isn't vegan.

[Rory]

I don't eat honey like honey. The plane is the honey.

[Julian]

No, he was on drugs. He was on opioids. He was on a coke binge.

[Rory]

You don't know that.

[Damaris]

Or he. I think that's mental illness. I don't think that's drugs.

[Rory]

But also, if you are doing a lot of drugs, it would help to have, like, a chicken tender. If you're vegan and doing all that, I can see you doing some wild. You have nothing in your stomach.

[Julian]

First of all, being vegan and doing a bunch of drugs is the funniest in the world.

[Damaris]

Those are not. And plant based.

[Julian]

What?

[Damaris]

The drugs.

[Julian]

Plant based.

[Damaris]

Not all of them.

[Julian]

Coke.

[Damaris]

Coke is.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But the other ones you were saying, well, opioids.

[Julian]

No. Like, pills and Shit like that pharmaceutical.

[Mal]

No, no. That shit's vegan, though.

[Julian]

Yeah, but it's not. You shouldn't be being vegan and then popping a bunch of pills, doing coke is like, all right, so what do you.

[Mal]

Well, those are. Drug addiction and dietary restrictions are not mutually exclusive.

[Julian]

Having dietary restriction and you're a drug addict is fucking hilarious.

[Mal]

That's.

[Damaris]

What are you talking about the wrong shit?

[Mal]

So many people.

[Julian]

Yo, I'm not going to eat that. Yo, pass that fake perk right there that I might die from popping.

[Rory]

There's that great.

[Julian]

You talking about Chris Rock joke when.

[Rory]

He said, somebody will say, you know, red meat could kill you and then hit a crack pipe right in front of you.

[Julian]

That's what I'm saying. It's crazy. Like, what are you talking about? Like. Like, I try to give a homeless guy food one day. I had, like. I ordered, like, extra food.

[Rory]

Did you film it?

[Julian]

Like, Troy F. I would never do no like that. So I'm. I'm good to hand him the food. He says, I don't eat that. The bag is not even open. You don't even know what it is. I don't eat that. I was like, what? I was like, all right, I know what you out here asking for.

[Rory]

Did I tell the story on this podcast? And when I gave half of my sandwich to a homeless person on the train, and it had a lot of onions and peppers that were super spicy, and it did not react well with him, and I felt like an awful human being.

[Julian]

Like, he bit.

[Rory]

It's not like I got off the train. I was watching him give us how.

[Mal]

Much spicy food's up. You got to, like, give him, like, a warm.

[Rory]

I don't think it was that spicy, but the way he reacted, it looked like I killed him. Like, I just wasn't going to finish the other half of my sandwich. So I was like, here you go. And he was happy and then bit into it and was like, spicy. I was like, okay.

[Julian]

Yelling something is spicy and you sleep in the subway is crazy.

[Mal]

It could still be spicy.

[Julian]

I feel like your lifestyle is spicy. Like, you sleeping. Like, you sleeping next to the third round.

[Mal]

Going from, like, not eating for, like, probably nearly a day, and the first bite you take is just, like, a mouthful of heat.

[Rory]

Yeah, that would suck. And I think it had some type of, like, spicy sauce on it, too. Like one of those, like, chipotle mayo that sometimes.

[Julian]

Yeah, but when you homeless, your taste buds gotta change. Like, your tongue gotta turn to leather at some point. You ain't Brushing your teeth.

[Rory]

Oh, my God. I feel like they'd be more delicate.

[Julian]

No, you're not brushing your teeth. You're not using no mouthwash. You're not going to the dentist. You got mad layers of you saying.

[Mal]

There'S a lot of plaque build up.

[Julian]

You got built up. That's like, fam. We don't even feel that. That's like.

[Rory]

But I feel if you have, like, a placky tongue, that the spicy tongue would hit you a little crazy.

[Damaris]

And it stays like. Because it gets lost in the plaque. So you can't just, like, swallow good.

[Julian]

You need some of them spice to knock that cheese out your teeth. And, ladies, one thing about y'all, y'all gotta stop talking to these niggas that got cheese in their teeth. Man got black all in their teeth. And y'all just dating these niggas. Like, what is that?

[Damaris]

Fuck you looking at me for?

[Julian]

I'm just saying, like, a lot of.

[Mal]

People have bad teeth.

[Julian]

Like, that is. Yo, when I see girls that deal with. And I'm like, yo, this is your man. Like, you see his mouth.

[Rory]

But what was the cheese thing? That sounded very, very specific.

[Julian]

Cheese is the yellow plaque in between your teeth.

[Rory]

I know, but did you see this, like, on your way here?

[Julian]

No, no, I see it all the time.

[Rory]

This is like one of those specific things. Like when Dababy said, stop sucking your man's dick in the parking lot. And it was like, he's talking about someone specifically.

[Julian]

Yeah, he just saw that on the way in.

[Rory]

That wasn't a general statement.

[Julian]

No, it was a general statement. I just think about it all the time. Like, girls just be laid up with these niggas with nasty mouths.

[Damaris]

And it's like letting them eat your pussy. Pussy taste like beef, egg and cheese.

[Rory]

Kissing. Got the spicy tongue.

[Julian]

Disgusting.

[Mal]

Do you guys. If your friend has something in their teeth and you're, like, out at, like, a bar or whatever, just out in public, do you let them know?

[Julian]

Yeah, hell, yeah. Absolutely.

[Damaris]

If you have something in your nose, your teeth, your eyes, because I can't.

[Julian]

You. Whatever you're saying, I don't even hear you. I'm looking at that piece of kale in between your teeth. Like, yo, fam, get some floss. Take care of that.

[Rory]

Have you ever with a girl that couldn't afford the good veneers?

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

And got, like, the weird ones, Low budget veneers.

[Julian]

Because getting bad veneers is like buying fake jewelry with real money. It's like, you really went in. You didn't have to do that. Like, you could have just left that alone.

[Rory]

Yeah. It was one girl, of course, very long time ago that we were dming on Instagram, ended up meeting up and, you know, like, a lot of veneers look great in pictures, but in person.

[Julian]

Like, yeah, I couldn't do it.

[Rory]

I couldn't. Couldn't even get through the first link.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Like, all right, well, I got some stuff to do. Beautiful. But she just had the big ass veneers that, you know, she went to, like, columbia and paid 3k for her mouth around them.

[Damaris]

I hate when they can't close their mouth around the teeth. Their mouth just hang on. But like this.

[Rory]

Yeah. Like, you see the bulge through her lips.

[Julian]

You got a coffee mug in their mouth.

[Rory]

It was nuts.

[Mal]

That's a great visual.

[Julian]

The handle, though, like, just the handles.

[Rory]

Like, as much as I would love to talk about the porcelain from the toilet going in people's mouths before we get off music. Did you guys see the Yachty clip on Flagrant two when he was talking about the leaked record?

[Mal]

I listened to the whole episode. I really like the. The full thing.

[Rory]

Flagrants. It was good. And they've been getting guests that I wouldn't expect them to mesh well with, and it ends up being great.

[Mal]

Yeah. And Yachty's a great interview.

[Rory]

Yeah. Since he's started his podcast, I feel like he's become even better at doing this type of stuff. But I do disagree with what this clip is. What's. What was the name of the song that was leaked by him and Drake?

[Mal]

Super soaked with Drake.

[Rory]

So Kai so not leaked this record, which I really thought somebody just like hacked it because that happens to Drake records all the time. But come to find out, he told Flagrant two that he sent it to Kai to leak it because the sample that they have on there wouldn't be cleared. And what's the gentleman's name?

[Mal]

Mr. Hotspot. Mr. Hotspot, a great creator. You probably know him from the Ooh, Delicioso. All those funny videos. But he's Atlanta based.

[Rory]

So Yachty and Drake sampled him and then reached out to clear the sample and he said no. And Yachty explained that he is now, like, doing non secular stuff and is on a righteous path of God and didn't want his song being sampled in a record that's about like super soaking pussy or something.

[Mal]

Which saying he went down like a Christian path is not accurate. Ever since I met hotspot in 2018, I known him since then. He's always been like, that this isn't like a new wave thing for him. So it's just. That's just the lifestyle that he leads. Very clean, very positive, very like God loving. Just really like avoids all sex and negativity and all that. He's just a very positive.

[Julian]

You can be all of those things, but somebody can't sample your music.

[Mal]

He just doesn't want his name or like his likeness to be associated with.

[Julian]

Would nobody even know that was his sample?

[Mal]

Yeah, they do.

[Rory]

When that leaked, that was the first thing I saw in the timeline. Yeah. Of look what was sampled.

[Julian]

Oh, so people knew that was his song.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. Because he makes like very like fun, positive. Like he has a song called Smile and he's like, we want to see you smile. And it's like this great, like, you know, bouncy, like trappy. But like he's. It's so positive to me.

[Rory]

What's. What's fucked up about this, I think is if they were like negotiating on clearing the sample and couldn't come to terms, not that I would agree, go leak it. But I have a little bit more understanding if somebody flat out says, no, I don't want to be sampled on a record like this because of the content, I feel like you have to respect that. So then just send it to somebody to leak is kind of crazy to me.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

If somebody tells you that.

[Julian]

Yeah. But listen, man, you right. If this your. Your song, your music, and you know, you don't want, you know, your music in that vein or in that light with those type of lyrics and energy, whatever. I get that. But music is. Art is supposed. Is made to be sampled. Somebody can draw inspiration from something you created and then put their spin on it, make it their own. Like.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, no.

[Julian]

That deep. Is it that deep?

[Rory]

Yes, yes, it's very deep.

[Mal]

It is.

[Julian]

I don't think.

[Rory]

I think music should be sampled.

[Julian]

I don't think it is.

[Rory]

But it also means you should also compensate and have a fair deal with the person that you are sampling and taking from.

[Julian]

Because I'm not saying. I'm not saying don't pay the artists that you sample. I'm not, of course, always take care of the artists that you're sampling. I'm saying to be like, nah, because, you know, like, my life is like, this is what I'm on. And I don't want my. It's like, yeah, but if it goes.

[Mal]

Against your values and you don't want to put yourself into something that doesn't mesh well with what you believe, In. Yeah, like we've seen even on a level like when Trump. Not to do the whole political thing, but like when Trump or other politicians come out to songs by artists at a rally and the artist will post a statement like, yo, I don't fuck with this. I don't endorse this guy. Like, I don't care that he used my song. It's still him. Like artists feel a way to even comment.

[Rory]

I think that's different though because once you put out music to the world, you can't.

[Mal]

No. Yeah, but I'm saying it's a similar thing. It's like I don't want to be associated with something I don't fuck with. Like, you know what I mean? It's like the whole. It's the artist is still feeling like vindicated enough to make a statement about something because their art is attached to someone or a being or a following or a belief.

[Julian]

Somebody. Yachty and Drake, bro.

[Mal]

But it's the songs about super soaking sex. Like that's. If you know him, that's not his thing at all.

[Damaris]

Would you be upset if Kirk Franklin didn't want Sexyy Red to sample one of his songs?

[Julian]

Would I be upset now?

[Damaris]

Would you be okay? Would you be having the same argument if Kirk Franklin didn't want Sexyy Red to sample one of his songs?

[Julian]

Yeah, I would think it's weird.

[Rory]

Like if she tried to flip. Do you want a revolution and do you want a hoe of ushen? You think that'd be cool? It's been done before with permission though.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And if always get permission.

[Julian]

I'm saying I think it's weird when the artist be like, nah, because you know, that's not my, my lifestyle is this and I don't really talk. You're not talking on the record about anything. I'm talking on the record.

[Rory]

Yeah, but you're not that you need permission to use. So I have the right to say what can go on and what can't.

[Julian]

And then, and then when you get into the whole. So okay, so he's this religious guy, God fearing man. Respect all of that. To me that's kind of like. So you're saying you're above like Drake and Yachty because you're this. You just. You don't talk about this like it's not.

[Damaris]

I don't assume.

[Julian]

I'm just saying because of your, your faith in your religion.

[Rory]

I think a lot of religions act that way, but I don't think that's what he's getting at.

[Mal]

Yeah. He's not like that at all.

[Damaris]

I created my art, and into my art, I injected my soul and my spirit. And I don't want this art that I created to be used for something that a lifestyle that I don't agree with doesn't mean that your lifestyle is better or worse than mine. But this is a lifestyle I don't agree with, since it's Drake and Yachty and they're so talented.

[Julian]

So they talking about that he don't like pussy. So he does. This gentleman doesn't like pussy.

[Rory]

What?

[Mal]

That's not what that only pussy that.

[Rory]

He would be married to. And then he can enjoy it. Here's the.

[Julian]

You like pussy, too.

[Rory]

The nuclear family.

[Mal]

Just a little bit. Here's the original record. It's called Goodness Gracious.

[Rory]

Great song. Example.

[Mal]

So when you smile, you show that goodness gracious. It's literally just literally talking about. Of someone's smile and then they're like super soaked, wet goodness. Like, it's just.

[Damaris]

That's just not what he's trying to say.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, he's just not putting out that message.

[Rory]

We've also seen it. It reversed, if you remember, when Donda came out. Life of the party featuring Andre 3000 wasn't on the original because Kanye was censoring all the curses on Donda. And Three Stacks didn't want to clear his verse because he wanted his verse to be portrayed in a certain way. You're not going to bleep the curses in my song, so I'm not going to clear it. Did he not have the right to do that?

[Julian]

That's. But that's totally.

[Rory]

That's Kanye West.

[Julian]

Like, that's totally different, though. That's totally different.

[Rory]

I don't think he's above Kanye West. I think he's like, yo, this is how I put this verse together. This is how I want to present it to the world. If you're going to change that, then, nah, sorry. I'm not going to clear my vocals.

[Julian]

Yeah, but it's different in that aspect of what you're talking about. Because now you're taking words that I'm saying and you're cutting it out and it's like, okay, why are you editing my.

[Rory]

Now you're taking my beat and flipping it to talk about a subject matter that I don't agree with.

[Julian]

Taking your beat? I'm taking a beat.

[Rory]

Some people speak through their instrumentals.

[Julian]

Yeah, I'm taking sound and I'm flipping it. Like, this is what hip hop was built on.

[Rory]

Remember the DJ that Ended racism. He was speaking with music. It was the beats that.

[Julian]

I just think dudes do like that sometimes. And it's like, it ain't that deep, bro. Like, it's not that. Like, cut it out, man. It's not that deep. Because they talking about, like, it's like, nah, I don't wanna. You like, too. When they come out in a few years that your DMs leak, we gonna know more about you too. I hate when these act like they hold it in now and they.

[Rory]

No way. A church going man would have a creepy past.

[Julian]

Out of here with this, man. Cut it out, man. With that. Just say you ain't want them to take it.

[Rory]

I see what you're saying, but he has every right to say it's his song.

[Julian]

He got every right to do whatever the he want to do. But I'm just saying, I think that that's. That's like, it ain't that deep, bro. It's not that deep.

[Rory]

I did find it.

[Damaris]

I just want to let everybody know. We do copyright strikes all the time of people using our content for.

[Rory]

Yeah, but that it's the only people that be saying, but that's.

[Julian]

Again, that's different, though.

[Damaris]

Why? They. They had a freedom to say. You say, what's the difference?

[Rory]

I own the material that you're using.

[Mal]

He owns that song.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Rory]

We're agreeing with each other.

[Damaris]

I wasn't. You're not the person I was bringing that point to.

[Rory]

But I did find it odd that Yachty, like, admitted this. That's a crazy thing as an artist to say that, like, to your artist community, that could come across very fucking offensive. Like, that's nuts. You're an artist. You know what that would be like if somebody took a Yachty song without permission. And, you know, Yachty's very particular about everything. Imagine someone just took his record and flipped it and did some corny that he didn't agree with.

[Julian]

Yeah, but.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

What the.

[Rory]

Why is my voice on this?

[Julian]

This corny?

[Rory]

He'd be pissed. So as an artist to say that with such confidence, I found it just a little odd.

[Julian]

I guess, man. I just don't think it's because they're talking about sex and vagina. You have sex and you like vagina too, sir.

[Rory]

I mean, it's unfortunate because Drake did slide on that song. The song is great.

[E]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But. Well, that is what it is.

[Mal]

Did you hear about his comments? Not to bring up the beef for the hundredth time, but he was briefly asked about, you know, his relationship with Drake throughout the beef and how it's been. And he said, you know, I was out of the country. I was in Europe the entire beef, so I really wasn't involved as much. But he said, ultimately, he just said, I think people are hating on Drake because he's the guy. All the records, all the numbers. He's the one. And then he also said, like, he's all their women. The whole. You know, the whole thing.

[Rory]

And he was saying. He spoke to him a bunch of times and.

[Mal]

Yeah. Said he was.

[Rory]

It didn't phase him at all. And Yachty felt like he was being annoying and bringing negative energy to somebody that didn't particularly care about it, so he stopped talking. Do we believe that?

[Julian]

Believe that what?

[Rory]

Drake was unbothered through the whole thing.

[Julian]

I believe it. I told you that.

[Rory]

I know he can say that to all his friends, but he might be bothered. I don't think it's. Oh, well, if he feels bothered.

[Julian]

But I'm not gonna say I think you're lying. Like, if you tell me, number one.

[Rory]

Song about me being a pedophile, I'd be bothered.

[Mal]

It'd be odd if you weren't bothered.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julian]

No, I mean.

[Rory]

I mean, in front of your house.

[Julian]

I'm bothered not saying not bothered, but people thought that he had crawled into this hole and was depressed and not going outside, not eating, not taking a shower.

[Rory]

Well, I don't think that, like, what the.

[Julian]

Like, no, Like, I don't think it's that at all. I think that that song came out. He was like, okay, this is what y'all on. All right, I'm out.

[Rory]

Are you automatically bothered by definition if you're allegedly canceling shows of Kendrick Lamar affiliates?

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know if that makes you bothered, but.

[Julian]

I'm not bothered. You just.

[Rory]

I'm actually on the side of Drake.

[Julian]

Doing, Y'all can't come to my city and my venue and get no money, though. Get the out of here. No, but I don't even know how they think. Like.

[Rory]

But, you know, a lot of people would say that you're bothered.

[Julian]

People say. People say you hating when you ain't hating just because I don't agree with you. Are you hating? No, I'm not. I just don't agree with you. Like, I'm not hating. I don't hate what you're saying. I don't agree with you. So if I have ownership in the venue and you're from a camp and affiliated with an artist that is now portraying to the world or saying to the world that I'm this pedophile, you think that you can still come to my venue in my city and make money, support yourself?

[Rory]

I would have done the exact same thing Drake did.

[Julian]

Okay? That's all I'm saying.

[Rory]

I'm just saying.

[Julian]

I don't even know how people are surprised at that.

[Rory]

Someone could view that as being about.

[Julian]

Yeah, but that's people. That's people just, you know, people are stupid.

[Rory]

The unbothered thing is not saying anything. That's. You just have to ignore it. But to me, like, people that claim to be unbothered are usually the most bothered. You're not saying and just ignoring it if you're probably bothered us.

[Julian]

See, I don't agree with that because I've been on the up, the other side of that, where people think something is bothering me, and I'm like, bro, I'm not even. I only think about it when y'all bring it to me. I don't think about that. So it's like, I understand when people like, yo, I'm not even thinking about that.

[Rory]

I'm actually. I'm actually laughing along with you guys.

[Julian]

I get it. I understand. So it's not like it's. Does he feel away?

[Rory]

Oh, of course.

[Julian]

Some people. Anybody put that on your jacket, As a man, you got to feel away. But I don't think it's to the extent of people thinking that he's like, life is over for him and he's depressed and he's, you know, he doesn't want to go outside, and he like, cut it out, man. He's still who he is. Life is still great for him and his family. Like, that one record does not stop any of that and does not change any of that, so.

[Rory]

Well, I'm glad Yachty cleared it up for us because we were all very worried.

[Mal]

Did you also hear Yachty said he heard the Black Album for the first time a couple weeks ago? Speaking. I know we talked about Jay Z earlier. This is just such an healing, Julian.

[Damaris]

Call somebody else. That asshole was like, that was really refreshing. Like, when somebody's out. Julian, you're such an.

[Rory]

That's why it's fun to talk with Julian. Because we're both. And, yeah, we both don't take it personal when we yell at each other.

[Mal]

No, I don't give it. But, yeah. What are you guys thoughts on that? A person, I believe.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah, I believe him.

[Rory]

What was the thing that ruffled everyone's feathers right when Yachty came out? I think he was on Hot 97, it said something about big or like, didn't know a Biggie song. This isn't the first time he's been through this.

[Damaris]

My, my thing is, how old is Yachty?

[Mal]

He's about to turn 27. But he's been. He came out when he was like, what, 16?

[Julian]

He's young, man.

[Damaris]

This is. But this is my thing. Right. So if you're a regular 27 year old kid. I don't. Or man, I. I'm not blaming you for not hearing the Black Album. Right. Throughout your entire life. Until you're be clear.

[Julian]

I know some 27 year olds that have heard facts.

[Damaris]

I know a lot of them.

[Julian]

So it's not just because he's 27.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

I just think Yachty's style and his.

[Mal]

I mean, he put One night, remember that first. This first record that came out in 2015.

[Damaris]

My point is, if you're, if you're in this music industry and you're a writer and you're rapping and this is. If you're really, truly dedicated to your craft, I feel like you should do the research on the greats before you. I feel like you owe it to the genre to do that. That's with any job that you ever do. That's like me coming on here and podcasting and never had listened to a podcast before. That doesn't make any sense. You go and you, you put effort into studying these people. So I just feel like, yeah, but.

[Julian]

I never listened to a Joe Rogan podcast, so.

[Rory]

Really?

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

I feel like, you guys, I put a line on a lot of.

[Julian]

Yeah, I've watched clips and like that, but I've never watched like a full episode.

[Rory]

I mean, he's anti vegan, but other than that, I think straight down the.

[Julian]

Board, you guys, I've seen him kill a bull and eat the ass first. Not even cooking no fires.

[Rory]

I don't know, I'm kind of split on this because I do agree with Damaris. If you are, if you want to be an artist, you should really understand the history of the craft you're in. I don't know, do we expect a 27 year old kid that was influenced only by Atlanta music to be even well versed in something from 2002?

[Julian]

Listen, I told y'all, when Joey Badass said the album that made him want to start rapping was Bow Wow's first album, I stopped trying to pretend like I had every artist in hip hop figured out, like, oh, you were born. You heard Biggie, you heard Pac, you Heard Nas, you heard Jay, and then you fell in love with it and you wanted to be a rapper. No, that's not how it happens for a lot of these artists.

[Rory]

I'm trying to think at 34, obviously I had to go back to hear 80s and early 90s shit. I did it cause I loved hip hop and wanted to do my history, my research, everything. But a lot of classic albums from that time, I don't go back to. They don't resonate with me because I wasn't around at that time. Yeah, like Straight out of Compton classic. I don't go and listen. It just wasn't my era. Yeah, like I would listen to Godson way more than I listened to Straight out of Compton just because I was 12 when that came out. It just resonates with you, with you differently.

[Julian]

It's all about taste too though.

[Rory]

KRS1 incredible. One of the best rappers ever. I don't like. I just don't listen to KRS like that.

[Julian]

I'm sure he has KRS as an album that I have not heard.

[Rory]

I'm sure he probably came out last month.

[Julian]

I'm sure he does.

[Rory]

So yeah. While I do agree with Damaris that artists should do history, I fully understand a 27 year old from Atlanta.

[Julian]

I get it.

[Rory]

Understanding that because I get it. I. I'd get killed from old heads if I admitted that my favorite album from the Wu Tang Click is Ghostface Supreme Clientele.

[Julian]

No, but I think a lot of people agree with that.

[Rory]

I was. I was barely alive when GZA was putting shit out. Like Supreme Clientele resonated with me because it came out later. Like that was more.

[Julian]

But that's undeniably one of the greatest albums in hip hop for sure. So you saying that is not crazy?

[Rory]

I think it's a hot take if you go through every solo album from the Wu Tang Purple Tape. Yeah, like it's a little crazy. A lot of people would even say Iron man is better than Spleen Clientele.

[Julian]

So I'm not one of those people.

[Rory]

And yeah, like I. I don't think that's a take that most people have, but I think people my age have that take because that was just around when we were older, we had to go back to listen to this stuff. So, you know, I don't put wood like that because I went back and did my due diligence and still listen to Wu Tang constantly. That resonated with me. But I have more of like a connection to Supreme Clientele than I would 36 chambers so I. I get what Yachty is saying.

[Julian]

Yeah. I definitely understand it. I wasn't surprised to hear him say that. He just heard the Black Album the other day for the first time. That didn't surprise me at all.

[Rory]

I would be curious to what his influences were like after saying, yo, I just listened to Black Album Reasonable Doubt for the first time. Like, what. I'm curious what he did listen to growing up.

[Julian]

I would guess.

[Rory]

I'm sure he said in an interview, but I just didn't.

[Julian]

I would guess a lot of Kanye.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

He seemed like a Kanye baby. A ludicrous baby.

[Rory]

Snap Arrow would probably be, too. Before his time.

[Julian]

No, that's a. That's about right.

[Rory]

Because I was in high school and Yachty. Yeah, Yachty was young during the Snap.

[Julian]

Era, but he was young. He was. He was. He was probably like, 10, 11, something like that.

[Rory]

A lot of these kids have Soulja Boy as, like, one of their biggest influences.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Which I don't find is crazy. Remember when Tax interviewed Slim Jesus and asked him his top five favorite rappers, and he was like, chief Keef, I forgot. Said a bunch of other drill.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

People and the Internet lost it. I'm like, this kid is like, 16.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And from Ohio. Yeah. Chief Keef is his best, absolutely greatest rapper of all time.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And he's making parody drill music from this. What do you think he liked?

[Mal]

From this one article I found, it's. There's a Soulja Boy, Coldplay, Kanye, and Lil B. Or Credit.

[Rory]

Lil B is a big influence for these kids.

[Mal]

Some good influence.

[Julian]

Coldplay.

[Mal]

He said, I see it.

[Julian]

I hear it. Especially that last album he put out on.

[Mal]

During the flagrant episode with him, they. They actually mentioned. They said, who's an artist you want to work with? And he mentioned. He said, like, Chris. Chris Martin. Like, he. With him. I mean, Chris Martin's a legend.

[Julian]

Like, but that's sort of like when people say Depeche Mode is one of their favorites, it's like, do you really listen to the Depeche Mode, or did you hear somebody else say that they're dope and that's why you.

[Rory]

Well, there's a lot of people that have that. That the world has just told them what to say as far as influences and what to say. Tyler talks about that a lot with the younger generation. Like, it's. It's okay. You don't have to say 36 Chambers is your favorite album. It's okay to say that. NBA Young boy. That's what you, like, don't have Urban outfitters try to, you know, steer you into the classic album mode because of T shirts and vinyl. Go like what you fucking like.

[Julian]

But it wasn't, it wasn't always like that though. Like even fun hip hop, like the gangstas and the street boys, like all, like we listened to Kid and Play, but then we would listen to Snoop.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You know what I'm saying? So it was like you listen to Kwame, but then you listen to Dr. Dre too. Like it was like all, everything was all together. It wasn't so much divided. And if you like this, you can't with that.

[Mal]

But I think with. Yeah, to your point. Yeah, I guess. But like, I think with hip hop journalism, especially like the blog era, I think there was like this level of like a, A pompous, like, I, I know the history of music. You can't, you're not a hip hop fan if you don't know the this, that and the third. And it became so much more about the back catalog and going through the, the, the, you know, deemed classics to then form your. Not even form your own opinion, just to be able to say, yeah, I like this album even though it came out 20 years after I was born. But I love it because I know it's a classic. It's like you have to convince yourself that this is the. That matters. And I hate all that.

[Rory]

But I mean, I don't know, I just feel like the old heads like forced shamed kids for not. That's immediately like saying Big Pac, Nas, Jay Z, those are top four or five. Like, no, it's okay. I know you want to be in these conversations. Say who you like, how many. When's the last time you listen to all eyes on me? 21 year olds, right? Yeah.

[Julian]

Like what you like, man? I, I mean, whatever inspires you. Whatever brought you to hip hop and made you want to be artists. It's all connected at some point.

[Rory]

Why did HOV go behind Kanye's back and get a song with Coldplay and made him say translation? No way, Jose.

[Julian]

I don't even know what you're talking about right now.

[Mal]

Beach chair. No, I'm saying the song that Jay Z has always. Beach Chair.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. Well, we all know that record, but I'm just saying, was Kanye mad at that?

[Rory]

The song that the hook is literally your family tree. My big brother was Big's brother. Used to be Damon. Big's brother.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Who was hip hop's friend. Who was no IDs man.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Mall. Let the story begin. Yeah, that Song. That's what he said. I told Jay Brownie the song with Coldplay next.

[Julian]

So then I know I hear Jay with a song.

[Rory]

Yeah, that was hate.

[Mal]

That's hate.

[Rory]

It's hate.

[Mal]

Bit his whole swag.

[Julian]

Or I have a relationship with him already, and we did a. This record was already done before you even mentioned that.

[Rory]

He wasn't on that alternative rock.

[Mal]

Nah, he was not on that Coldplay wave.

[Rory]

No, he was doing songs with Petey Crack.

[Julian]

That too. Yeah.

[Rory]

Great songs.

[Julian]

Those as well. But I also. With Chris. That's my man.

[Rory]

I can see Kanye feeling away about that. Like, if I'm putting together my project and I'm mentioning all these ideas that were clearly not on any whiteboard, and.

[Julian]

Then Jay Papa with this.

[Rory]

Then all of a sudden, it's like, now I can't do a Chris Martin song.

[Julian]

You can.

[Rory]

I mean, he did.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

But I could see why he'd be upset. Especially Kanye trying to be the innovator that he is and trying to be the first to do stuff like. Yeah, I get it, but was Linkin park before Beach Chair? Yeah.

[Mal]

Oh, you're talking about the Collision Course album.

[Julian]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

Is it weird that I like that?

[Mal]

I like it.

[Rory]

That Lincoln park and Jay Z album.

[Julian]

So is it. So is it now. Is it so crazy to think that he had a record with Chris Martin in the works already? So I'm saying he'd been on that.

[Mal]

Collision Course came out in 2004. I. Lingen park is one of my favorite bands. I listen to them a lot still. I work out to them a lot.

[Rory]

How come we never, like, put this in Jay's discography? I mean, it was Dynasty albums even in there.

[Julian]

Yeah, but it was. I think this was. This was too different for the core J fan base. This was like, oh, he jumped all the way over there. Like.

[Rory]

It's a great album, though. Speaking of Rockefeller, I know we talked about it, I think, last episode and the one before that, of the status of Dame Stake in Reasonable Doubt. I saw this morning that officially the feds will be auctioning off 33.3% of his royalties. And I think the minimum is 1.2 million. It can't be anything under that is what I was reading earlier today.

[Julian]

So Dame Dash's stake in Rockefeller Records will be auctioned off by the feds later this month. TMZ is reporting that Dame's 33.3% interest and the label will be sold by the U.S. marshals at public auction in Manhattan on August 29th.

[Mal]

You guys want to Pull up. You guys can go halfsies.

[Damaris]

Have these.

[Rory]

I can't afford it.

[Mal]

1.2. You can split that.

[Rory]

Do you guys think. And, I mean, I don't know if you have info, but are Biggs and Hove gonna try to outbid whoever else is there?

[Julian]

I don't know.

[Rory]

Both of them can afford 1.2 million?

[Julian]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't know if they'll be there.

[Rory]

They'll send someone on on their behalf, maybe. I'm kind of nice in auctions if they want to have me as, like, a consultant one day.

[Julian]

I just think this is, like, talk real.

[Rory]

I can put the paddle up.

[Julian]

This is just crazy that this is happening. Like, you know, just you talking about history and one of the most iconic imprints, labels, albums, artists of all time. The first one, the original, the. The foundation of it all. And for. To see where it's at now today. I think it's just disrespectful. Like, I don't. I don't know how it got. Well, I do know how we got here, but I don't know why it got here.

[Rory]

Who do you think will end up with this? Is it gonna be like, what's that Marty Guy?

[Mal]

Shkreli.

[Rory]

Yeah. That won the auction for the Wu Tang album for, like, fucking 3 million or whatever. I hope it doesn't end up just with some.

[Mal]

Some white nerd.

[Rory]

Some Wall street piece of that just has more money than everyone. That would be.

[Julian]

So I would be very surprised if it ends up with anybody outside of J O Biggs. I would be very surprised. Let me just put that out there. I would be very surprised.

[Rory]

Scooter.

[Mal]

Scooter.

[Rory]

What if Taylor buy there.

[Mal]

Taylor Swift could buy this and then do covers of it.

[Rory]

To be honest, if Taylor did buy that, that might actually play out great.

[Mal]

Yo, imagine, Jay, Imagine Taylor's version of those records.

[Rory]

The Swifties would run Reasonable Doubt up all the way if Taylor had Reasonable Doubt.

[Mal]

Taylor's version.

[Julian]

No, we don't.

[Rory]

She'd smoke the feeling.

[Mal]

Smoke feeling it.

[Julian]

No, she wouldn't.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Julian]

She was acoustic feeling it. She would not smoke it is all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I don't. Y'all putting words on it. I'm just smoking.

[Rory]

But you got to think, too, like, hov works with the NFL. Taylor owns the NFL. Like, there's already a connection there.

[Julian]

Yeah, but she won't be doing her rendition of Filling it no time.

[Rory]

So imagine if she does the super bowl halftime, but only covers a Reasonable Doubt.

[Mal]

Mm.

[Julian]

Great look for Jay. Terrible look for the culture, though. Yo, that's all that'd be.

[Rory]

You don't think the Culture would feel.

[Mal]

That Taylor's 22 twos.

[Julian]

No, thank you. Respectfully, we're just gonna tell, you know, we cool.

[Mal]

Well, I think Rory mentioned it can't sell Foxy's verse. It can't sell for less than 1.2. Right. What do you guys think it'll go for?

[Julian]

I don't think anything about Jay Z's first album.

[Mal]

What else is involved in that? What else is included?

[Rory]

I. It's not for Rockefeller. It's just for the royalties to Reasonable Doubt. Oh, okay. If it was for stake in Rockefeller, it would not be up for $1.2 million. I think it'll go north at 10, to be honest.

[Julian]

Yeah. This is Jay Z's first album. Like, one of the greatest artists of his generation and with the greatest rapper.

[Rory]

Ever and with everyone selling their catalogs now, if you have 33% of a Jay Z album in a market where everyone's selling their catalog, that's worth a lot of money.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

So I. I can't see it anywhere under $10 million.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

So I don't know. Hopefully they don't have to end up.

[Julian]

I can't.

[Rory]

Some bag to work with, but I.

[Julian]

Can'T see it under. Maybe not even under 20 for a third.

[Rory]

You're not wrong.

[Julian]

Of Jay Z's first album. So you think.

[Mal]

So if we're taking that math, then you could see the. If this album would be worth. If it was just out, the whole thing would be 60 million.

[Julian]

I think. I. Me personally, what this album is for hip hop, I think it's probably worth more than 60 million.

[Rory]

I think an evaluation of 60 million for reasonable Doubt is fair, I think especially with it being catalog and what you can do with it. So I. I just feel for. For Jay, if he had plans to, like, you know, do a real documentary or things around that whole era, and like, now you got to deal with just some guy with Marty.

[Julian]

Right.

[Rory]

Lose my.

[Julian]

I don't think that'll happen. But what if.

[Rory]

What if Billy from Fyre Fest cops it?

[Julian]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

I think he owes a lot of people a lot of money. I don't know if he can.

[Rory]

He gotta invest to flip.

[Julian]

Invest? No, that's what he did. That's what he tried the first time around and got his ass.

[Rory]

No, everyone else invested, and then he flipped.

[Julian]

Yeah, he flipped out. Yeah.

[Rory]

I watched his Vlad interview.

[Julian]

How was it?

[Rory]

It was really good, actually. I give flowers where they're due. Vlad did a great interview. Super interesting. I appreciated all the accountability that Billy took. Like he wasn't up there trying to blame other people. Like, I was a dirtbag. I lied to all my investors. I put people's health at risk. Yeah, I deserve to be in jail. It was fine by me. He was getting extorted by Bloods, you know, it was a great interview, but a time. Imagine extorting Billy. Billy talking about someone getting raped. It was a. It was a great interview. Had all the layers to it. Unfortunately, him and Ja are not on speaking terms.

[Julian]

Damn.

[Rory]

One day, like, first, the Fat Boys breakup.

[Julian]

Yeah. We need five Fest two with John.

[Mal]

He's doing. Yeah, I was gonna say, he's organizing another one.

[Rory]

So they only sold 100 tickets, though. That's all that was available. Like when they announced firefighters too.

[Julian]

They started with just 100. Was available pre.

[Mal]

Pre sale.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

And they sold out. Oh, it's a sellout. They put out 100, sold 100.

[Mal]

So the alleged. I mean, apparently the second one is going to be his biggest, like, move.

[Julian]

To as big as sham ever to.

[Mal]

Pay back all the people you thought it was.

[Julian]

Part one was a sham. Wait till you see part two.

[Rory]

Nah, I think that shit's gonna.

[Julian]

They actually make it to the island. Only problem is I'm not there.

[Rory]

Ooh, Listed. We better be listed for Fyre Fest 2.

[Julian]

Yeah, Billy, we better be listed for that. I wanna see that for sure. I have to see that.

[Rory]

I'd be curious.

[Julian]

I wanna be a part of the sham.

[Damaris]

We should be on the bill.

[Julian]

See here. Go Damaris. Always wanted to be on a bill.

[Damaris]

Why shouldn't we be on the bill? Oh, you gonna go for free. My bad. I ain't know you was worth that.

[Julian]

But going for free.

[Damaris]

Be on a bill.

[Rory]

I don't.

[Julian]

This is one of the greatest shams in history. I want to see the second one.

[Mal]

Shammy Shamu.

[Damaris]

Oh, damn. You took it from me.

[Julian]

Y'all both was thinking Shamu. That's what's up.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not victim blaming. But why has no one ever, like, discussed, like, when the people got there, like to leave A friend of mine, if I saw mattresses laid out and tents broken and cheese sandwiches. I'm gonna walk to the other side of the island. I'm not going to stay here. There's no water here.

[Julian]

That's the greatest.

[Damaris]

There's no water here.

[Rory]

They have no water. I'm going right back to that bar that we would. We were at before and I'm gonna figure out how the to get home.

[Julian]

I lied. I do. I did watch episode of a podcast, Kill Tony.

[Rory]

Kill Tony's great.

[Julian]

I watched like three of his podcasts.

[Rory]

I don't know if I consider Kill Tony a pod, though.

[Julian]

No, what is it?

[Mal]

It's like an event kind of event.

[Rory]

Yeah, I mean, they do a form of podcasting in between, but it's like a stand up roast show to me. Sort of.

[Mal]

Definitely.

[Rory]

You got to get into more pause, man.

[Julian]

I'm trying to, man. I just. Adhd, man. Just.

[Rory]

There's got to be a vegan one out there.

[Damaris]

So you do have adhd, right?

[Julian]

We all do.

[Damaris]

No, but like, really, like you have adhd. I always thought that you had adhd, but I didn't want. I don't want to give you, you know, diagnosed by a doctor.

[Mal]

But what did Rory throw on the games jacket? You can say I've already diagnosed people.

[Rory]

Yeah, Bipolar.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I only have a high school, but.

[Julian]

He gave Game, like four multiple personnel. Yeah, crazy.

[Rory]

Like.

[Julian]

No, he's definitely. It's like, you don't even know him. Like, he's definitely. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

I'm not only going to apologize to Game.

[Julian]

No, don't apologize now because you got to go to LA next month.

[Rory]

I'm gonna walk back. No, it's not because of Game. Somebody did DM me, which I need to reply to her, but she was like, yo, you as someone that has bp, like, you don't just diagnose people with that. Like, that's crazy. And she's right. But, I mean, we were just shooting the. On a pod.

[Julian]

Exactly. That's why she's not right. Shut up.

[Rory]

And Game might be bipolar, you know, yelling. I apologize on behalf of Maul.

[Julian]

Hey, why Lex put my name in that shit, though? Like, y'all ain't got.

[Rory]

I'm here for it.

[Julian]

I'm just saying that's not funny to y'all, though. Like, y'all ain't laughing. Y'all saw that.

[Rory]

I laugh very hard.

[Julian]

I love, like, shout out to Paul Minds, Lex, Andrea, love them, support them. But yeah, Lex put my name in the whole Trump thing and said that the message I'm spewing is dangerous and I'm riling up the proud boys and we're gonna storm the capitol again. What, Lex, What I do? I never told nobody.

[Rory]

Dangerous rhetoric.

[Julian]

I never told nobody to go vote for Trump. Never said it. I'm not voting for Trump. Never did, never have, never will. I'm just. All I ever told you guys here was I thought he was a better candidate than Joe Biden.

[Rory]

And we are saying that Lex and Draya are using their platform for good, and you're using yours for evil.

[Mal]

Should we. Let's just play the actual clip real quick.

[Julian]

Will we get banned for this?

[Mal]

No.

[Damaris]

And anybody who's watching Alex is definitely.

[Rory]

Gonna send us.

[Damaris]

Dangerous.

[Julian]

What?

[Damaris]

A lot of these people with platforms are straight noise.

[Julian]

And what's dangerous?

[Damaris]

Something the other day, and I said there's a difference between, like, somebody paying you for an endorsement. Like, if she comes to us and was like, hey, I want to pay y'all to endorse meaning Kamala President.

[Rory]

Keep. Pause for a second, because I'm more. We need to check the accounting. You've been getting paid by Donald Trump on this podcast.

[Julian]

Donald?

[Rory]

I have yet to see my Donald Trump check.

[Julian]

I wish. Yeah, they say be like, sending me wires is crazy. Donald Trump.

[Damaris]

Drake, That's a nasty bank account.

[Julian]

Which. Yo, this is what people think is going on in my life. Like, yo, I. Man, I don't know.

[Rory]

Donald Trump paying more might be the funniest thing I've heard this year.

[Julian]

What are we talking about?

[Mal]

Direct deposit?

[Rory]

The Drake one was, like, maybe believable, people.

[Julian]

No, it wasn't like that. Was.

[Rory]

He definitely paid for the drinks at the show, though. Like, that was kind of.

[Julian]

What show?

[Rory]

Didn't you go to his show in Newark?

[Julian]

I don't drink.

[Rory]

Rory, what the fuck is wrong.

[Mal]

No, you had the reference.

[Julian]

Who's paying for water at a concert?

[Mal]

They're pretty expensive. It's like $7, 7 bucks a bottle.

[Julian]

Yo, that cooler right there, Fan, pass me that. What is that? Yeah, give me one of those Poland Springs, man.

[Mal]

All right, hold on. Let's finish this real quick.

[Damaris]

Voting for her anyway. But if Trump came to me and I'm taking a check and I'm spewing.

[Rory]

Out information, going to Lex. It's crazy.

[Damaris]

To my young listeners, to people of color, it's dangerous.

[Julian]

Yes.

[Damaris]

The Amber Rose Mall. I'm calling people's names out. You and mom, you and Amber Rose.

[Rory]

Like Amber Rose being that cast corrupt right there, calling out names.

[Mal]

That's a sick company.

[Julian]

All right, in my wild, if I feel like Amber Rose being at the RNC is.

[Rory]

It was goofy.

[Julian]

All right, so would it be goofy if Lex, Andrea was at the dmc.

[Rory]

The dnc, like, just as supporters? I mean, if they're going to have.

[Julian]

A blast on stage, like influencing their platform and their audience to come out and vote for Kamala.

[Rory]

It depends how they do it. I think the things that Amber Rose stands on it for her entire career are the complete opposite of what the Republican Party is looking out for. So I think it's goofy. It looks like you're being paid because you're going against everything you've stood for before. If Lex Andre have always been big Democrats and go to the dnc, go, okay. But if I think it was goofy that Meg is. They're using Meg to. At the dnc. Yes. Same way using Hulk Hogan was corny. And sorry, everyone, that I'm on not picking aside.

[Julian]

But that's my goofy. That's my point.

[Rory]

People do that.

[Julian]

That's my point. It's all corny. It's all corny.

[Rory]

But you have to use your platform responsibly.

[Julian]

I think Democrat. No, I think people sitting up there endorsing people to vote for anybody as corny. If we're being honest, this is. So vote for whoever you want to vote for.

[Rory]

I think if there. There are celebrities that are well versed, not only in politics, but within the community for real. And what politicians can do for us and lobby for us. Yeah, Killer Mike should be on stage. That's fine.

[Julian]

Yeah, but. Nah, but see, I don't agree with that because you niggas tried to cancel Ice Cube when he said he wanted to sit and talk to Donald Trump about the plans.

[Rory]

He did not get canceled. He's doing fine.

[Julian]

No, they were. They were trying to cancel him because he called to sit and talk to Donald Trump. Yo, what plans do you have for black people? This is Ice Cube we talking about.

[Rory]

And I think Ice Cube, y'all start.

[Julian]

Calling him Uncle Tom, a coon, all kind of shit. Because he wanted to sit and talk. Sit and talk with Donald Trump about the plans that he had for black Americans.

[Rory]

I think Ice Cube is obviously extremely well versed to have that conversation with Donald Trump. And we know Ice Cube's.

[Julian]

I know what you're saying. I'm talking about the backlash that Ice received for just wanting to have that conversation.

[Rory]

There's.

[Julian]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Rory]

They can't be the same thing. It's apples and bowling balls of Ice Cube going to talk to Donald Trump and Kanye west going to the lobby to meet him to not say a word and take a bunch of pictures. Goofy.

[Julian]

I agree with you, but I'm just.

[Rory]

Saying that you want to have a conversation, and he's been Advocating this way his whole career.

[Julian]

But this is what I'm trying to tell you.

[Rory]

Cube is always.

[Julian]

Just the fact that somebody like Ice Cube just wanted to have a conversation, didn't say he was voting, wasn't endorsing, none of that shit. I want to sit and talk with Donald Trump to hear what he has to say about his plans for black Americans. Just because he wanted to have that conversation and had it. People was calling Ice Cube NWA Ice Cube. Calling him a coon and him a fucking Uncle Tom.

[Rory]

I think you're putting.

[Julian]

For just wanting to have a conversation. I'm just telling you how the. The limps that people will go to and the things that they'll call people. It's like, do you know who Ice Cube is? Like, some of you calling Ice Cube a coon is the craziest in the world to me. Just because he wanted to have a conversation.

[Rory]

Or something like that. It was definitely called people that before, bro.

[Julian]

It was crazy. It was crazy. And he reached out to talk to the Biden administration. They didn't sit and talk with him. But Ice Cube, we got to that point just because he wanted to have a conversation, that he's a coon and he's an Uncle Tom. Y'all niggas is crazy with this politics shit.

[Rory]

It's people jumping out the window on the Internet and also not being well versed with Ice Cube. Ice Cube sat down with. What's the Jewish organization that calls everything anti Semitic?

[Mal]

Damn, jdl.

[Rory]

Ice Cube sat down with them for an interview when he. After he said, you let a Jew mess up my crew. Like, he's always down to talk to somebody else. That's why Cube.

[Julian]

That's.

[Rory]

Cube is Cube. It's stupid to say that, but Cube is not Amber Rose.

[Julian]

He's not Amber Rose. He's Ice Cube.

[Rory]

And I'm not discrediting Megan and whatever her poly science degree is. It just looks like, listen, everyone's being used. Chef G and them used. Everyone's being used in this situation. I think it looks goofy. Listen, they've been doing this in politics forever. This isn't like a new thing. Were shocked that Meg Thee Stallion was at the dnc.

[Julian]

This is very.

[Rory]

Pusha T was next to Hillary Clinton for a whole summer.

[Julian]

This is very different with hip hop being this close to politics. Very different.

[Damaris]

That's not.

[Julian]

This is new. This is not. No, this wasn't going on in the 90s. This wasn't going on in the early. This. This started. Honestly, it started with Obama.

[Rory]

It started Heightened with Obama.

[Damaris]

It started with Pete. Well, not started, but it really went crazy with Diddy.

[Julian]

Maybe Diddy Rock the Vote or whatever that was. What year was that?

[Rory]

That was Bush and Gore, right?

[Mal]

That was 04.

[Julian]

That was the start of all of a sudden hip hop. Before that, hip hop was always anti government, anti politics.

[Rory]

You should go watch hip hop in the White House on Hulu.

[Damaris]

You should.

[Julian]

Like, so now that people, all of these yo, duh duh and people with their platforms is very. Yo, cut it out with this shit. Stop cut it out with this shit. This politics shit. Cut it out. Y'all niggas is being used now. Y'all starting to call people out about who y'all think they support and want to vote for. Like people can vote for whoever the fuck they want to vote for.

[Rory]

Can. Can I ask a very naive question, and you guys might kill me for this because it sounds stupid. Do you really think these celebrities have an effect on who people are voting for? Do I have too much faith in the American people?

[Julian]

I don't. I don't.

[Damaris]

It depends on the celebrity.

[Julian]

It depends on.

[Rory]

Do you think Amorose turned any votes?

[Julian]

It depends on.

[Rory]

We think Meg thee Stallion turned any votes.

[Julian]

It depends on who is voting, who you're talking about.

[Damaris]

I think when Beyonce and Jay Z.

[Julian]

Came out, it's a very. It's a very. It's a very. When you talk about Beyonce and Jay endorsing you, that's gonna move some votes. That's gonna move the needle a little bit for whoever it is.

[Rory]

Maybe I'm putting too much faith in Americans.

[Julian]

Maybe not.

[Rory]

The first time I voted was Obama first term in 08. When Jeezy came out with Nas, I was like, that's ill. Didn't cross my mind of I need to vote for Obama, cuz Jeezy's there.

[Damaris]

Well, I don't think it's not. I don't think that's the purpose. The purpose. The purpose is working the purp to stir conversation. That's what it is. Your, your favorite artist is drawing away. So it's to draw not the people who are voting one way or vote in the other way, but the people who probably weren't going to vote at all and didn't even think to have these conversations are now having these conversations because these artists struck up this attention and things like that.

[Julian]

One of the presidents.

[Rory]

Look at what politicians think of all American people. Hulk Hogan can stir your vote. Yeah, like look at what they think of us.

[Damaris]

I think you think that's crazy. Americans are like, really stupid. Like.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

And celebrities are God.

[Julian]

We.

[Damaris]

We deify celebrities.

[Rory]

So, yes, where things shifted. I mean, you could obviously say jfk, but Obama to me, was like the first celebrity president. He became like a celebrity.

[Mal]

Nixon.

[Rory]

Was he really a popular actor like that? I mean, it wasn't alive, but was like Nixon, the Denzel of his own people. It was like an extra in a movie.

[Mal]

He was a Hollywood. I mean, he was.

[Rory]

Nancy was more popular in a. Or.

[Mal]

Sorry.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Pardon me. Yeah, Nixon kind of got deified. Is like this. Reagan was the. Yeah, Reagan. I think because he was so integrated in Hollywood, he had a celebrity that spanned beyond politics before he even entered the ring.

[Rory]

And I mean, outside of the obvious on the political side, I do think Obama being the celebrity that he was did shift things. Where you get a Donald Trump because Donald Trump is a celebrity. Like, these people revere Trump. They don't revere Hulk Hogan. I don't think you need those celebrities anymore. The politicians have become celebrities. George Bush wasn't a celebrity. Clinton wasn't a celebrity until he was. Got his dick sucked. Until. Until he got his dick sucked, he was just another Arkansas senator.

[Julian]

President. The president has always been a celebrity.

[Rory]

If you're the president, they've been the most known person. But a celebrity, like, people are a fan of them. I'm a fan of that person.

[Julian]

People are fans of presidents. What are you talking about?

[Rory]

I think this has shifted after Obama, where it's fandom now.

[Julian]

People were fans.

[Rory]

There's not Trump supporters.

[Julian]

Fans of Julius's grandfather Julian's grandfather, Billy Boy. Yeah, we came out with the Arkansas Razorback windbreaker and all that.

[Rory]

He played the sack.

[Mal]

I'm telling you, people. Bill was very, very popular, Very well liked.

[Julian]

Yeah, he was.

[Rory]

He was also popular all. I'm speaking from somebody that is 34, and I only saw Bush. Clinton.

[Julian]

No, Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was a celebrity.

[Rory]

And to me, it just. Maybe it's because I got older, but it just seemed like it changed a bit. It. Where it was more celebrity driven in how they campaigned. Like, this is really a show. This is entertainment. Obama's our celebrity now.

[Julian]

Absolutely.

[Rory]

Like, it became. It became cool to, like, text with Obama. Like, that was a celebrity thing. Nobody ever did that shit with a president before that. It was cool to sex with them.

[Julian]

Not our culture. No.

[Rory]

What maybe Rush Limbaugh, like, bragged about texting with Bush. I mean, I don't really remember anyone bragging about knowing the president like that in the media.

[Julian]

That's What I'm saying, it changed.

[Mal]

9, 11. He said direct hit. Nice job.

[Rory]

Never forget, man.

[Mal]

They did it.

[Julian]

You're right about that.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm rambling. This has just been my perception of it through my years, of how I've looked at it. Yeah, but that's an Irish thing. It was Jesus Christ. Derek Jeter and jfk. But that's why I started with. JFK was the only one that I could remember that wasn't in my lifetime. Because every American. You know, he hung out with the mob. He was Marilyn Monroe.

[Mal]

Yeah. He was doing his thing.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

He was a genius. So smart.

[Julian]

Who's that?

[Mal]

JFK was a brilliant guy.

[Rory]

Well, I mean, JFK Jr. Is still alive. If you ask QAnon. He's going to be the new vice president with Trump. That's in the scripture. QAnon. All right.

[Mal]

Scripture.

[Rory]

We got to do the knowledge.

[Julian]

We have to have a moment of silence for Baby D. Her queen, Cardi B. Has filed for divorce.

[Rory]

Why we have to have a moment of silence for.

[Julian]

Because you know Cardi, that's her girl.

[Rory]

That's true.

[Damaris]

I. I am very. I'm not sad that her marriage is ending, because if her marriage is not making her happy, that I want what's best for her. But I am sad that she has to go through this transition so publicly.

[Julian]

And deal with scrutiny.

[Damaris]

No, you're not. I am, too.

[Julian]

You're not sad.

[Rory]

See, you don't know. Damaris could have been like the hating homegirl that was like, yo, leave him. And then she finally listened to Damaris.

[Julian]

Damaris definitely got a DM to Cardi.

[Mal]

Let me see.

[Julian]

Girl, if you knew better, you do better. You know, whenever they say, that's not.

[Rory]

Hate to y'all, that's definitely hate.

[Mal]

If you knew better, you do better.

[Damaris]

I don't think that's hate.

[Julian]

Of course haters don't think.

[Damaris]

I'm also not that friend. I'm not that friend.

[Rory]

I'm sure. Divorce.

[Damaris]

I'm heavy on the girl. You better than me.

[Julian]

That's the same thing. That's the same.

[Rory]

That might be worse.

[Julian]

Girl, I could never.

[Damaris]

He got a good woman. Cause, girl, yes.

[Julian]

That's all hate. All of that is hate.

[Rory]

But nothing is funnier than when karma comes around. You say, couldn't be me, and then it ends up being you.

[Julian]

It beat them.

[Rory]

Could never be me.

[Julian]

It's always them. It's always them. Yo, it can be me. No, you're. You're me.

[Damaris]

Now, some really couldn't Be me, though. You don't have some. That really couldn't be you.

[Julian]

No, for sure.

[Damaris]

Like, some just.

[Julian]

But it'd be certain that I'd be like, now you wilding. And I was a. That was wilding before.

[Damaris]

Yeah, for sure.

[Rory]

So it's like you would never put up with offsets behavior.

[Julian]

I'm not funny to me. So, yes, you're right.

[Rory]

I made myself.

[Julian]

I would never do that.

[Rory]

You'd put your foot down.

[Julian]

I'm not a gay man, so I wouldn't be in a situation with an offset. Stop trying to be.

[Rory]

What?

[Julian]

Weird Rory.

[Rory]

I'm weird.

[Damaris]

Weird Rory. It's so funny.

[Julian]

Weirdo. But, baby D, apologies to you and Barty's Barty gang, because I know that y'all was pushing and pulling for Cardi and Offset to. To last, and they have. This is their third child. She's pregnant. So congrats to Cardi.

[Damaris]

Yes, congrats to both of them.

[Julian]

Their third child. Right.

[Rory]

Third child with a healthy pregnancy.

[Julian]

Well, this is their third child.

[Damaris]

Their third child together. He has other children.

[Julian]

Right. So their third child together.

[Rory]

Can female crips be in Bardi gang?

[Mal]

Just call her Cardi. Yeah, they're just called her name.

[Rory]

She could.

[Mal]

What's her real name again? Cardigan Backyard. Again.

[Damaris]

Bel Khalees Almanzar. But they are a source for Cardi. Her rep went and told Page Six that they are. In fact, she has filed for divorce after seven years of marriage.

[Mal]

Her rep, Damaris.

[Rory]

Yo, Demerit sitting. Page Six is hilarious.

[Damaris]

I got that number, too. I'm gonna call them.

[Rory]

Went to Midtown, just knocked on the door.

[Damaris]

Anyway, I don't want to hear anybody complain about her album not coming out this year, being that she's pregnant and going through a divorce. So, yeah, I'm sure her album's a little delayed. She's kind of like dealing with real life.

[Mal]

Nah, man.

[Rory]

Nikki. Nikki would do it.

[Julian]

Hey, let me say this right.

[Damaris]

Here we go.

[Julian]

Let me just say. Nobody say a word right now. Let me say this. I'm from the Bronx, New York City, so I'm always rooting for anybody out of the city. I love Cardi. Want to see the best for her. Love the. The flower she's getting. If Cardi don't drop that album this year. And I get it, divorce is real life happening right now. Family blood. I understand that comes second to all of this. I'm just saying, if the album don't drop now, she ain't gotta go on tour. But if by November, December, that album Ain't out. What we doing?

[Mal]

Don't hold your breath, Ma.

[Julian]

What we doing?

[Rory]

This album is not coming out this year. It's August already.

[Julian]

When did. When did her first album come out?

[Mal]

2018.

[Damaris]

18 years album was supposed to come out in 2020. And there was a pandemic.

[Julian]

Some the greatest music we ever got came out in the pandemic. I don't want to hear that. Pull up every hip hop album that.

[Damaris]

Came out in 2020.

[Julian]

We got some bonafide classic hip hop albums.

[Damaris]

But I think Cardi releases party music and club music if you can hear it.

[Julian]

Party and club music that was out in 2020 was shaking their ass on. Was it Red Cup Party House? What was it at?

[Mal]

Oh, all of them.

[Julian]

Whatever that was was on it. DJ and D. Nice. Had the whole world shaking they ass.

[Mal]

Wap. Came out during the pandemic.

[Julian]

Sh.

[Rory]

Yes. Trying to think.

[Julian]

Seven years and you won on your first album, best rap album.

[Damaris]

Well, it was Grammy.

[Julian]

And you don't put out another attempt for seven years. We gotta have a. Just the culture on a mic, on a camera. Gotta get behind a closed door somewhere and say, yo, what are we doing here?

[Damaris]

Why does that happen?

[Rory]

When is the last time Kaiser does that bi weekly?

[Julian]

No, I don't think so.

[Damaris]

But why does that have to be a conversation? If she never put out music again? Why does that have to be a conversation?

[Julian]

Bro, you.

[Damaris]

Why can't she first?

[Julian]

Why can't she? There was music before that. There was music before that. There was music before that. So we're not doing that.

[Damaris]

Cardi had music before that too. Plenty of mixtapes.

[Julian]

Come on, Bo.

[Mal]

Cardi had three mixtapes.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

She had Killing Me Music, Volume one.

[Julian]

What We Talk.

[Damaris]

I love about Beef With Me. She got beat forever.

[Julian]

So listen, I love Cardi, but I'm like, yo, that's a long time to have a success on that album like that. That and nothing else come out after that. Singles. We know she got some singles that came out that was big. Like, we know that.

[Damaris]

I'm talking about that came out after that was.

[Julian]

I'm talking about your album, though.

[Rory]

You know how upset I'd be if I was Cardi B listening to this right now. You're telling me I'm pregnant and going through a divorce. You.

[Julian]

I get. Listen, I understand that. I understand that. I understand that. And that's a valid, valid reason. I'm just saying. Come on. Cause she said at the top of the year, she told. She guaranteed us the album was coming this year. Didn't she say that, and then she.

[Damaris]

Discovered she was pregnant, so there's that.

[Julian]

I understand why you keep going to that. Like I'm saying, regardless of her being pregnant. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying we gotta have a conversation, bro.

[Damaris]

What conversation needs to be had. She can do whatever the fuck she pleases. You're not old music. You're not old music. That's very just. It's very entitled of you. And that's not just for Cardi. That's just for fans across the board of music. If she says she's putting music out and it don't come okay, she let us down. We really wanted the music, but we're not owed music just because she had a successful first album.

[Julian]

She told us she was putting it out.

[Mal]

Yeah, but changed.

[Damaris]

You done told me a lot of yeah, I done told you a lot.

[Julian]

Of yeah, but I also didn't win best podcast of the year at the Grammy.

[Damaris]

13 13.

[Rory]

We got snubbed at whatever show that was.

[Damaris]

You was nominated for a Webby or. It wasn't a Webby thing.

[Julian]

So. All right. We went best podcast. First year, we have our podcast, Best podcast of the year, and we don't put out another episode.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

You telling me gonna be like, yo, these got there. Them was trash.

[Damaris]

No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't take away from what she's already done just because her. Your sophomore album. Take away from what you.

[Julian]

Nor did I ever say it's taken away from anything.

[Damaris]

Because you keep bringing up the past. The past doesn't.

[Julian]

Because we've never seen this in our culture before. A rap artist puts out an album and wins best rap album at the Grammys, and we don't get another album after that. When have we ever seen that? And it's your first album.

[Rory]

She had, like, a whole. It was like she had to do this with all of them.

[Julian]

Like, come on.

[Rory]

I can't unplug, though.

[Julian]

Come on, man. I'm just saying, like, what's up? And even with. Even with the great Ms. Lauryn Hill, people want an album. They've been calling for it for years.

[Damaris]

But see, but there's a difference.

[Julian]

Yeah. Lauren ain't come out and say, yo, the album is coming out this year. She never did that.

[Damaris]

There's a difference between wanting an album and sitting up here. It's kind of like, with all due respect, even your tone is given. Wasn't a fluke. It's giving. Cardi has to prove that her first album wasn't a Fluke. And she don't gotta prove a fuck ass thing to y'all.

[Julian]

That's not what I'm.

[Damaris]

But that's what. That's the tone, that's the undertone.

[Julian]

That's your ears. How you saying something is on you.

[Damaris]

That's okay.

[Julian]

Okay, Ma, I'm telling you, I.

[Damaris]

We've had this conversation multiple times.

[Julian]

I want to hear more music from Cardi because. No, you don't.

[Damaris]

Because you don't play Cardi. You don't play her. You've admitted to not playing her. You don't play her.

[Julian]

I want to hear an album. I'm not going to be bumping the album in the crib and riding around listening to the album. But I want to hear another album from Cardi. I wanna. She has so much shit that she can talk about now. Now more than she's ever had in her life. I wanna hear her make. Make art of it.

[Damaris]

I do, too.

[Julian]

I wanna hear her. I wanna hear her opinion on certain things. Because she don't do a lot of interviews.

[Rory]

She didn't. She take Joe Biden to the Bronx.

[Julian]

Man, fuck Joe Biden. She don't do a lot of interviews. So I want to hear her get her shit off in her bars. That's all I'm saying. Like, yo, like, what's now granted? This right here. Cause I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. And Rory knows this as somebody who's created music and. Put it out.

[Rory]

And pregnancy.

[Julian]

Put it out is the key part. Put it out. What's gonna happen now is that album that Cardi has that she says is done or pretty much done, that's gonna get scrapped. Because now going through a pregnancy, another pregnancy and a divorce. You a whole different person now.

[Rory]

Now. Yeah. If you don't address.

[Julian]

So I don't even think she gonna want to put this. Whatever she has in the hard drive right now that was supposed to come this year. All of that might get scrapped.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Because she might not even want to hear those thoughts, that energy, those bars. She gonna be like, delete it.

[Rory]

But now. But now you're asking her to predict the future about being pregnant or divorced.

[Julian]

Like, I didn't ask her to predict anything.

[Rory]

But you're saying she needs to put an album out this year and just gave a great point on why it won't.

[Julian]

No, I'm saying. But that's what I'm speaking to. Cause so now if she has to record another. A whole nother album, then how much more long are we looking At. Cause we already going into year seven in the gap between the obvious greatest album of her career, right? Grammy, best rap album, biggest accolade, great salute. But it's been almost. We're going into year seven with 20, 25 now. And now the music that you told us you was putting out this year, it's safe to assume. I'm gonna assume that she probably never put that out because she's a whole different woman coming out of this now. So now what we looking at? Because she's not gonna be able to, you know, baby probably do top of the year.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she's. She's apparently allegedly six months now.

[Julian]

So she's home, she's taking care of the family.

[Rory]

She could use it as a rollout.

[Julian]

She could. I'm dealing with what you said.

[Rory]

I hope we shame her for it.

[Julian]

You're right. She could. She could. Right. But that's why I'm just thinking further down the line, like, so now we looking at potentially nine years.

[Rory]

I think the entitlement works both ways. Fans are not old music, but artists.

[Damaris]

Are not old, Grace.

[Rory]

They're. Yeah, they're not. Oh, that doesn't mean we now talk about it. Y'all missing does come on live and say, like, yo, what the. Why are you always talking about y'all music is coming.

[Julian]

Y'all missing.

[Rory]

You're entitled for thinking we can't talk about that.

[Julian]

You're missing the point. She said it was coming this year.

[Rory]

She said it.

[Julian]

I mean, and we know pregnancy, divorce, it. Life happens.

[Rory]

How many. So I just push albums back, but.

[Julian]

But I don't want to sound entitled. If you're gonna say I'm sounding entitled. Well, at least say. Well, she did say she was putting it out this year.

[Rory]

When was the last time Kanye west hit a release date ever?

[Julian]

What does that mean, though?

[Rory]

Artists push music back all the time.

[Julian]

But Kanye has put.

[Rory]

All right, man, I'm going to your.

[Julian]

Point of saying, never mind. Hey, music.

[Rory]

KANYE Put out 14. I don't know.

[Julian]

Kanye can miss. He can miss a release day when he wants to. How many artists albums has Kanye put out?

[Rory]

That's a separate point. I'm saying to your point of, hey, music is coming out this year. You're holding her to it. Kanye has said release dates a million times and they never were hit.

[Julian]

Of course, I'm hoping she hasn't put out since the first one.

[Rory]

That putting seven year shit here.

[Julian]

So where's the next one? Oh, it's coming this year. Cardi bet.

[Damaris]

And then when you. Okay. So I get what she said.

[Julian]

Pregnancy, divorce. Damn. But as it. As somebody that wants to hear her next effort and was looking forward to it, now, I'm just thinking we might have to wait potentially two, three more.

[Damaris]

Years now, and that's that. But the whole thing of. I think we need to have a conversation. What conversation are you alluding to? What's the conversation?

[Rory]

Do you feel the same way about Frank?

[Julian]

Frank about him not putting out music?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

See, it's different with Frank because Frank is. He's not doing a bunch of features.

[Damaris]

So he's giving you less music. Cardi B has given you an album full of music.

[Rory]

He headlined Coachella. He's been outside. He just posted a photo of him playing guitar.

[Julian]

Is Frank Ocean outside? Like Cardi B has been outside over the past?

[Rory]

Of course.

[Julian]

Why y'all. Why y'all sit here trying to make me sound like I'm stupid?

[Damaris]

Nobody trying to make you sound like you're stupid. We're just trying to really get to your point. Your real point.

[Julian]

My point of how do y'all push the buttons on an artist for their first album? Dope music. We love it. Best rap album. Grammys. Got it. Pepsi commercials. Got this. Is the industry pushing buttons? If you don't know Damaris, this is them making calls and relationships like, yo, she's the one with stamping. She's personality. People love her. She's the next superstar. Great. I love her.

[Damaris]

Heavy on the personality. People love her. Heavy on that. I love her because in that conversation, there's an undertone of, oh, we chose Cardi. Industry plant, which you said before. Industry plant.

[Julian]

I said Cardi was a plant?

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Julian]

Did I say she was a plant? Did I ask if she was a plant?

[Rory]

I actually don't remember. I don't wanna put that on you.

[Julian]

Yeah, like, did I ask the question? Cause we was just talking about plants. So I'm asking the question. But regardless of what it is, I don't give a fuck. She lit. She got money. Taking care of her family, experience of the life of. I'm happy for her. I'm just speaking to the music because I want to hear the bars. I want to hear get her off. And then we getting. I'm only ever told my music. I know life happens, but I'm just like, all right, so damn. Like, where's the music now? Because you got to believe she's. The industry is heavily invested in Cardi. That's a fact. So they. They're. They're. They. They want another album. Don't think that her phone ain't ringing and ain't like, yo, so how we.

[Rory]

Of course.

[Julian]

How we looking? How we feeling?

[Damaris]

Her label is definitely probably on her ass for sure.

[Julian]

So when I say conversation, it's like, yo, y'all pushed all these buttons. Now look at y'all. Y'all sitting here like somebody gotta answer for this. That's all I'm saying. I love the fact that she ran it up and got all the accolades and making a shitload of money. I love that for her, knowing her story, where she's from, that. That her story is crazy. That's a movie. She's a movie. Salute to her. I'm only speaking as a fan that want to hear her bars and want to hear her get her shit off and want to hear her talk her shit, because I know she got a bunch of shit to say because she always get on live sometimes say, yo, y'all. Y'all always be talking shit. Yeah, I know that's in the music. I just want to hear it. And I'm just speaking from now. It's like, granted, life happened. Divorce, baby. So now we looking at potentially two, three more years on top of what we. We rated almost 7. It's just disappointing that somebody that wants to hear the music. That's all I'm saying. No knock. I'm not saying it's her fault, and it's. I'm just saying, Damn. So almost 10 years. That's a long time.

[Rory]

I get what you're saying, but I think you should have the same outrage with Frank. It's been eight years. Put out one of the greatest written albums ever, and it's been eight years. What the. Just because he doesn't go on ig live like Cardi every now and then, why is he not held to the same standard?

[Julian]

Is Frank ever say, yo, the album is coming this year.

[Rory]

I don't know if Frank's ever spoken. I think he can only.

[Julian]

All right, so I'm speaking. I'm only speaking again because Cardi said it was coming.

[Damaris]

Okay? So we wouldn't be having this conversation if Cardi didn't say that when she said it.

[Julian]

I came in here, what I told you. I said, let's. All right, she said it. Let's hear it.

[Damaris]

So the singles that she released, like, do you play them?

[Julian]

No, I don't play, but I don't play any of those. Any of those. Those records from Meg, Nikki, Cardi.

[Rory]

You're more of like a B side bar.

[Julian]

But I want to hear it. I Listen to it. When the album comes out and the song comes out, I listen to it. But do I. Am I like somebody that's continuously playing it? No, because a lot of that shit is not for. They're not catering music to me for the most part. You understand? Their demographic is something different than what I am. But I still want to hear it, though. I want to hear what she talking about. I want to hear what she doing. I want to hear what production, what the music sound like. I'm just a fan of the music. I'm not. Not all the other. I understand. I just. I just want to hear music. And I was told that music was coming. Now, obviously it's not. And I'm just like, damn.

[Damaris]

Well, she's never said that it's not coming. So let's.

[Julian]

Let's. But it's a safe assumption. Like, you talking about divorce and another baby. Like, come on. And you gotta. You gotta be moving around to support your album, your project. Like, nobody's expecting that of her right now.

[Rory]

I kind of don't care. Like, I liked her first album, and I like Cardi, and I would go listen to a second album, but if she never put another album out again, I wouldn't care, like, at all. I'm care. Frank. Don't put something out. I care a lot with Cardi, but I know a lot of people view Cardi, like, Frank Ocean to them. A lot of girls that look at her like she's the greatest artist ever, which is cool.

[Julian]

Just knowing her and her personality and everything she's experienced and been through in the last however many years. I just want to hear her, get her off and talk her.

[Damaris]

I agree. I can't wait to hear that often.

[Julian]

I want to hear that.

[Rory]

Try to shame Rihanna into putting an album out.

[Julian]

They do that all the time.

[Rory]

And then she laughs and makes another billion dollars, like.

[Julian]

But that's what I'm saying.

[Rory]

As a fourth kid.

[Julian]

Yeah, but. But again, Rihanna also already has multiple albums out.

[Rory]

Classics, too.

[Julian]

That's all. I just think that's where it's different when you say, I think Rihanna is like, okay, I gave y'all a bunch of shit. I'm going to do something else now. And then I might jump back into that.

[Damaris]

I just try to give. I try to give grace when the first. I just try to give grace to people because I can't imagine being that big of a celebrity and having that amount of pressure from your label, from your fans, from n. Who run their mouth on podcasts. Like, I can't imagine having that much pressure on me while also trying to keep my marriage together and trying to house a baby and try to. I can't. I can't even imagine how much pressure.

[Julian]

Yeah, but Baby D, that's what you gotta remember. She was placed in that pressure pot. When you put her up there and give that. On the first effort, the first album, you putting on the space where that's what's expected of those type of artists. We understand you go through shit. We get it.

[Rory]

We heard Lemonade. We get it crazy. That.

[Julian]

But they. But they put you in a class. They put you on a. Like, damn. Like, for out the gate. Whoa, okay.

[Rory]

She. She.

[Julian]

Y'all stamped her. She the next superstar. Now we watching, now we looking. Now we going to pull up, we're going to shows. We going. But now when you say, all right, but where's her collection of music at, though? Oh, it's coming. All right, cool. We waiting 5, 6, 7 years, 8, 9.

[Rory]

Kind of came like, yo, like. Because you're saying that about Cardi. I've been on this podcast telling Drake he should slow down, like, take a break and stop making music for a second. So as an artist, you kind of can't win for lose. No matter what, you're going to upset somebody. Somebody is gonna say, what the. But remember, more music people can say, what the. No music people are saying, what the. But kind of just do what makes you happy.

[Julian]

But remember, she told us it was coming this year.

[Mal]

Year.

[Julian]

If she didn't say that, this conversation is totally different. She never told us it was coming this year, but she did.

[Rory]

Cardi also told me that she used to rob men in motels. So I. I don't know. I.

[Julian]

All right.

[Rory]

I don't know.

[Julian]

We got voicemail. You've got mail.

[Mal]

We do today. Let's. I haven't heard this yet. Let's just jump in and see what we got.

[E]

What's going on? Roy Maul, Baby D. I got a little bit of a dilemma on my hand.

[Rory]

So slighted.

[E]

I just kind of want to.

[Mal]

It's all good.

[E]

Want to know what y'all think. Think, especially the marriage, too, from a woman's perspective. So for all women, I got a little dilemma on my hands with my girl. We've been together for a long time. We got a six year old kid together. We've been on and off for a while. You know, we broke up before my daughter was born, got back together, broke up again, and got back together again recently.

[Mal]

Yeah. Is this awesome one thing called Cardi B.

[E]

Same is that we have great sex all the time.

[Rory]

Oh, God.

[E]

So now she, you know, has talked about a fantasy of hers. Is watching me another girl. Because she's always like, you have to.

[Rory]

Stay with her, bro.

[E]

You great. So I want to see you fuck another girl you fuck. I don't want to join in. I just want to watch you, which to me, is weird.

[Rory]

I feel like he's making this up since he said his girl said you fuck good.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

What woman says that?

[Mal]

Who says that?

[Rory]

Yo, you good?

[Mal]

Good game, bro. Keep piping.

[Rory]

Keep going.

[Damaris]

He's wanting to get that off because.

[E]

It'S like, if I'm gonna be another girl, I want my girl with me. Not watching me. I feel like that's a little strange. So my question to y'all is, do you feel that strange? And also, do you think that that will open up, you know, a door to her later? She, you know, down the road might be asking, oh, you get to other girls. So now I want to another guy.

[Rory]

I don't know, sir. I think she just saved your marriage. Like, I don't know why you sound depressed.

[Damaris]

Are never happy.

[Rory]

It's this. This is the dream.

[Mal]

No, he's just blessed with just piping out his girl, so, you know, I wouldn't.

[Rory]

Well, I wouldn't find it weird if my girl had a cuck fetish. Like. Like.

[Julian]

Wait, say that again.

[Rory]

If she wanted to watch me another girl, and, like, really wanted me to do that, I wouldn't find that weird.

[Julian]

Oh, okay.

[Damaris]

She has. Probably has a voy voyous fetish voysm.

[Rory]

Like, would I want my girl to join too? Great. But if that's not what she wanted to do. Yeah, cool. I'll this girl for you.

[Damaris]

If this.

[Rory]

Is this what you want, I'll let you know how it was.

[Damaris]

No, she watches.

[Rory]

I know. Yeah, like, I'll verbally tell her while it's happening. Oh, it's not you, though, babe. Like, your pussy's better. I give affirmations and confidence throughout the entire thing.

[Damaris]

I think that if you are comfortable with it, if this is one of your girl's kinks, I definitely think that you should try it out. But I think that you guys should discuss your sexual boundaries before you start anything. If. If you are not with it being in reverse, make sure you share that with her from the very beginning before you do anything and just lay out, you know, those boundaries and those kinks. I'm surprised that you're just now finding out that kink, like, this Late down the line that it's usually something that comes out a little bit earlier.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

But maybe she's, you know, now just now discovering herself. I don't think that it opens a door. If you guys handle it the right way and if you trust each other. Trust is the number one thing. If you don't trust each other, you shouldn't be doing anything or bringing anyone in your marriage, honestly, you shouldn't be together. But.

[Mal]

Well, they've tried on and off 100 times it sounds like.

[Rory]

So. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You saying check if it's both ways. Like no. Cuz he imagine if she said I good too. This is my friend Dave.

[Mal]

Dave.

[Damaris]

Why you looking at me? Don't look at me.

[Julian]

I'm bad.

[Rory]

Damaris was suggesting make sure that your girl wants to watch you someone else but her cuck also isn't. She wants to another dude.

[Damaris]

Cuz that's his.

[Rory]

Like there could be some cuck too. Like I want you to watch me another guy. Guy that's still in the range of cuck.

[Julian]

Any man. Any man. Never mind.

[Damaris]

Thank you.

[Julian]

Thank you. So say it's just different type of.

[Damaris]

It's just.

[Julian]

It's different breeds out here.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Julian]

There's hybrids. You got a lot of hybrids walking around. A lot of that run off electricity.

[Rory]

It's okay.

[Damaris]

Call it Nick.

[Rory]

Why are we against kink shaming?

[Julian]

It's Teslas.

[Rory]

Do what you want to do if not harming anyone. But we can shame you.

[Julian]

Any dude that's like nah, yeah let him you tonight. And I want to watch. Watch.

[Damaris]

We've had this combo before mall just put.

[Julian]

Why we can't put all of them type in one area Florida. Like we need to put them on a boat and just send that out like going towards like how Cuomo treated.

[Mal]

The elderly during company.

[Julian]

Like you know, on. On. Exactly.

[Mal]

Just send them off to sea.

[Julian]

Put them on that same boat Cuomo had pull up to the Javage center. Put them on that same boat.

[Rory]

He did that all while wearing a polo and didn't even have a suit on.

[Julian]

And nobody ever was on nipples laid breast through. And not one patient had to be admitted to the boat. Whatever man.

[Damaris]

It is at the end of the day. Yeah, do. Do I. If.

[Julian]

Yeah. But send them somewhere to marriage though, please. He.

[Damaris]

But he's not even talking.

[Julian]

I'm not him. I'm just saying the guys that like to watch their girl another dude.

[Rory]

That'd be great for them though. Imagine if you had a specific kink and then all the people in the World went on a cruise ship that had that kink. I think that's doing someone a favor.

[Julian]

That's what Billy was trying to accomplish with the festival.

[Rory]

All idiots that can be scammed get on this plane. What's your email?

[Mal]

Yeah, My question is that what if he's a girl in front of. In front of his girl, and it's. The sex is better than it is with him and his girl? Like, she can see it, and he's obviously reacting to it like it's the best sex he's had.

[Rory]

No, but that's. I think that's the boundary thing. And that's where I think specifically, like, younger men up good situations. Like, if your girl's allowing you to have threesomes, you don't spin the block. You don't hit that girl on the side. Life like, yeah, you have an amazing opportunity here. Don't act right, follow the rules. Don't mess it up Will continue to be great.

[Julian]

Don't mess it up. All you can do is mess up the situation. Yes, it can only get better, but you about to mess it up. Hitting her on the side.

[Rory]

Your girl just let you with her. Just do it that way, sir.

[Damaris]

Do what? Do what's best for your. Just don't go back outside. Ain't nothing out here ain't out here for. Bro, I'm on 90 day. Ain't out here. You know what I'm saying? So just stay with what you got that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. M. Should have told you how I got ganged up on yesterday with all of my friends trying to convince me to be a Rory yomi. Scotty, like, as a group were in the.

[Julian]

Scotty was trying to convince you to be a.

[Damaris]

All of them.

[Julian]

I find that hard to believe.

[Rory]

Can I say she's lying or is this. Is this for. Is this for content?

[Damaris]

I'm lying. I'm lying. I'm.

[Rory]

We were saying as your friends, don't spin the block. Go find someone new and healthy. AKA go. Someone else that you like.

[Julian]

That's different.

[Rory]

Don't spin the block.

[Damaris]

They said, girl, if you don't go get some new dick. That's what they said. That's. Those were not exactly.

[Rory]

And I'm not sure I'm allowed to say, nah.

[Mal]

Come in. We had to make an edit. That was it.

[Rory]

Yeah. I mean, we had to make it whatever Damaris wants to keep on with. Whatever. She's healthy. But it's just let these know Astros like, yo, man.

[Julian]

Like, yo, you ain't got to front the Kick it like. We know. We know what's going on. We know it's a. That ain't playing. He's standing on a big box of.

[Rory]

Business we've been potting since 2015. I know what it's like when you can't say certain on a microphone. Someone's listening.

[Julian]

Yo, you talking to yo me. We've been through some years of this. I know. And it's like, don't say that.

[Rory]

I have got say no more. Plenty of. So I heard the pod text messages like, oh, I thought you hated podcasts.

[Julian]

Say nothing. I know, baby, I get it. But go ahead.

[Damaris]

I got a notification from Discord the other day. Join the new Royal Mall Discord.

[Julian]

Now, when get the Discord.

[Rory]

Yeah, I gotta. I gotta sift through some of the users to find email.

[Julian]

When they go to the. It's like, yo, why you here? What you doing?

[Damaris]

What you think? I'm telling the. The listeners that, like, what do you really think I'm in the discourse, spilling.

[Julian]

My business own business, not playing Listen365 days in a year. Don't play with me on none of of them. That's what he owe. That is from the pimp tree. I know this.

[Damaris]

Quoting Gloverless.

[Julian]

Yeah, that was some real.

[Rory]

I put out music unlike someone else.

[Mal]

You can quote someone that puts out.

[Rory]

I feel. I feel for all the people we're talking about, though. I don't think I could ever date someone that's has a podcast that records three to four episodes a week and talks about their past, their life, everything that's going on to the world. I'd probably start to feel a way.

[Julian]

And then y'all wonder why I'm single. Look, see?

[Damaris]

Oh. Oh, it's our fault.

[Julian]

No, it's not your fault. It's.

[Rory]

It's this fault because you sold your soul to the podcast.

[Julian]

This is what it is.

[Rory]

So, I mean, this is me now.

[Julian]

I meet a woman who thinks she knows me because, oh, my God, I.

[Damaris]

Hate that think they know me. They really think. They, like. They really think that. Like, when I go to talk to them, like, when we go on a date, I'm gonna be dressed like in sweatpants and talking to the.

[Julian]

Well, Rory knows the situation, but do y'all know know how crazy it is when you find out that somebody you know in real life that you was really cool with kicked it with, that knows you, stop with you and stop being friends with you because of fake tweets that they read? Because it's like, yo, you know me for real. Like, stop now. We're not gonna be friends because of fake tweets from years ago that you know was fake. Like, and you know that's not me. Like, what are you.

[Rory]

I get Lex just called you dangerous. I get it.

[Julian]

Like, what are we talking about here? But that's again, so imagine the women that do know you finding fake tweets and then feeling like, oh, I'm not talking to him no more. So now imagine the women that don't know you and all they're doing is listening, and. And then you finally meet them, and they like, nah. Yo, y'all, you were saying something like, what? I'd be totally confused. Like, what are you talking up? But once I see it, I'm like, oh, you. You believe? Oh, all right, cool. Peace. There's not even. No. It's no point of even trying to even talk. I mean, so then y'all wonder why. Because y'all ask why I'm, you know, single, so.

[Rory]

And to me, this is why Damaris doesn't need to spin the block and just go find a new, healthy human being. That's all we were suggesting.

[Damaris]

Mall just explained why I can't do that. Our podcast clips go viral, and, like, nah, she got male friends, so she be staying the night at the house and getting wet butts. Like, this is the. That I be coming into contact with. With.

[Rory]

You did. I'm very humbled by the amount of men that listen to our podcast.

[Mal]

It's not the whole world.

[Rory]

You can find a guy that doesn't know us.

[Mal]

Yeah, I did.

[Damaris]

At the end of the day, we podcast for entertainment. It's entertainment. So you can't believe everything that you hear about somebody on an entertainment podcast.

[Rory]

I lie on this podcast.

[Damaris]

We lie. We do, like, some stuff. We tell the truth on. We tell a lot of truth on a lot of shit, but we. We add spice to a lot of shit, too. It's fucking entertainment. It's very hard to find somebody who's willing to date a woman who. Who is on a podcast with all men. I spend all my time with y'all degenerates all day and night. I'm gonna last night till 3 o'clock in the morning.

[Rory]

We had a great time.

[Damaris]

We did.

[Rory]

We had a very good time.

[Julian]

I was in bed. You was outside. I was home sleeping, like. But I'm the degenerate.

[Rory]

There's one degenerate here.

[Julian]

What the Is all right, cool. It is what it is, but it's.

[Damaris]

It's tough. So I get with Mall. I Like, I get what mall saying it's hard. People take your on air personality and think that that's what they're gonna get when they date you.

[Julian]

Like, they know I don't care, though. I'm. See, that's the difference with me.

[Rory]

But you don' that. Like, the people that knew you before the podcast would have a problem with it now, rather than someone that would be introduced to you as a podcaster already. Like, the people you spend the block on knew you before you were podcasting. Maybe they would feel more of a.

[Julian]

Way records never disrespected. Now you on a podcast, you pull this. That's what he. I know that. I know what tree he fell from. How old is it?

[Damaris]

Yo, what are you. There is no man.

[Julian]

All right, all right, all right, baby.

[Rory]

Like, I feel like the spin the block guys can be like, yo, you've changed, and I can't deal with the new person that you are. Whereas someone that would be introduced to you for the first time, knowing you're already a podcaster would learn to accept who you are already because they met you this way.

[Damaris]

But this isn't who I am. This isn't.

[Rory]

It's part of your life.

[Damaris]

It's part of my life, but it's my job. It's my job. It's not who I am.

[Rory]

No, I get it. Skating is what we do. It's not who we are. I love Brink, too.

[Mal]

Oh, my God, I love Brink.

[Rory]

I feel you. Team pup. And Suds told me my first.

[Mal]

First lesson explains sellouts.

[Rory]

Yo, Val was so pussy, man.

[Julian]

The. That pulls, like, the energy out of Julian. Oh, God, I love Brick. Like, what? That's what got you going.

[Rory]

They almost sounded horny. Oh, God.

[Julian]

He's like, oh, God.

[Rory]

What the.

[Julian]

Love that, man.

[Mal]

Diverse crew of skaters. They just love the diverse crew of skater. They just love the sport, man. Yeah, they had that little. The Latino chicken dick.

[Julian]

Definitely wanted to be on Double Dare growing up.

[Mal]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Rory]

So did I. I do it now.

[Mal]

We did that now. Yeah, we shoot. We do a sketch. Purple parrots.

[Julian]

Purple parrots.

[Rory]

We all. We all tried to get rollerblades the next day after breaking.

[Mal]

I've had rollerblades because of this movie.

[Damaris]

We should go rollerblading. Motorblading is like, I can still skate. They have, like, a nice, like, a new skating rink in Brooklyn that, like, they have, like, a R B night with, like, alcohol. Like, we should go.

[Rory]

Oh, that'd be cool.

[Julian]

Roller skating in Brooklyn. I'm cool.

[Rory]

Don't they do that? In Marcy now.

[Julian]

Marcy, like I'm Deadassi projects, though.

[Rory]

It's like every Sunday there's a roller. Like it's an event. They shut down part of the street.

[Julian]

We not doing this. I'm calling this right. We not doing this.

[Mal]

They have a nice part. A roller skating rink at Brooklyn Bridge Park.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's Marcy Brooklyn.

[Damaris]

But they have like, roller skating. A new, like, skate and rink, like, club type thing that they do.

[Rory]

No, I found it. I'm telling you. I'm not bugging. Roller Wave nyc. Join us this and every Wednesday for our newly added roller skating experience at The Marcy Playground, 753 Myrtle Avenue, Brooklyn, New York. 5:00pm-9:00pm Roller Wave NYC.

[Julian]

Wow.

[Rory]

Yeah. No, they skating in Marcy Projects now past sundown.

[Julian]

Wow.

[Rory]

But my homegirl, that always posts it like it looks like it's a great time.

[Mal]

This looks lit.

[Rory]

Well, that's not in Marcy. That's probably at another event. But that's Marcy Playground, though.

[Julian]

Yeah, this is. I did not know about that though. But that's dope, though.

[Rory]

I mean, we're good Marcy. We should go in line.

[Mal]

Skate in line.

[Rory]

We should go try to like, grind.

[Julian]

The roller skates, not rollerblades.

[Damaris]

You a roller skater?

[Julian]

I'm skates. Yeah. I'm not blades.

[Damaris]

But would you go roller skating? Mall, obviously not in Marcy projects. But would you go roller skating?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Only place I go roller skating.

[Julian]

I love roller skating.

[Damaris]

I have a roller skating place that we can go to. So they do like a R B. Like, I think it's Wednesdays or something like that. So maybe we can go after recording next week.

[Julian]

Fire.

[Rory]

Could you do the cones? Like when they.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

I mean, it's so down.

[Mal]

Could we actually do that?

[Rory]

Yeah, yeah, I'd love to.

[Damaris]

It'll be Wednesday. I can probably get yomi to film it.

[Rory]

I like ice skating. Just no one ever wants to go ice skating.

[Mal]

I love ice skating.

[Rory]

I'm not going with you. That'd be yo. That would be crazy if you and I went ice skating.

[Julian]

Julian sound like the girl that be wanting to hang out, but you don't want to hang out with her.

[Rory]

I'll hang out with Julian.

[Julian]

But him and I101 love ice skating. No, nothing.

[Rory]

If we went in as a crew, Cool. If he maybe brought a girl, Cool. Is that two men are not going ice skating together at Bryant Park.

[Julian]

Meeting up to go ice skating.

[Mal]

But you work.

[Julian]

If y'all don't play for the Rangers, you're great.

[Rory]

Like, if it's not and it's okay.

[Julian]

I want you to know that it's okay. But you're not gonna tell me.

[Mal]

How is that any. How is that any different than the rollerblading situation? Is rollerblading less gay?

[Julian]

No, it's. If you and your homeboy meet up and say, hey, let's go blading.

[Mal]

I'm gonna assume no one would say that.

[Julian]

What do you say we go? What? Slicing? I don't know what the. You.

[Damaris]

I don't know.

[Julian]

What do you say?

[Damaris]

Nasty.

[Julian]

No.

[Rory]

Never.

[Julian]

Tickets on sale now. New Rory Mall dot com. Detroit, August 22nd, St. Andrews Hall. Yes. Get your tickets now.

[Rory]

Can't wait.

[Julian]

August 25th, Chicago, the city Winery. Good to be back in Chicago.

[Rory]

What's the pizza in Detroit that we love?

[Julian]

Oh, that people say is the worst. Jets.

[Rory]

I like Jets.

[Julian]

I like Jets. Had some good. I had some good pizza from jets, but they kill us every time we talk about it. Like, no, that's not the best in the city. That's like loving. What? Domino's. It's like. It's like that equivalent, I think.

[Rory]

Oh, okay, I get that. There's some good Detroit style pizza in Manhattan, though. Yeah, that's like a thing.

[Mal]

Detroit style. It doesn't even make sense. It's not even a style. It's just a shape. You can't claim a shape.

[Rory]

No, it has, like, a specific taste. What is it crisp?

[Julian]

Yeah, like a. Like a skillet.

[Rory]

It. It definitely tastes different than other pieces. It's not like they're just putting a square and calling it a Detroit slice.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Julian]

Whoever made the first slice of pizza is a genius. Whoever.

[Rory]

The guy at Zucali's, he was like, yo, you put sauce there.

[Julian]

It's him. And it's the. That invented fire. 1A, 1B, for sure.

[Mal]

I don't think someone invented fire. I think they just. Fire were happening.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

There was wildfires.

[Julian]

Just.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, how does a wildfire.

[Julian]

Somebody had to start the fire, right?

[Mal]

That's how they discovered. That's how we.

[Rory]

Billy Joel.

[Julian]

We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world was turning. Start the fire.

[Rory]

Copyright. Copyright. Right.

[Mal]

Oh, damn.

[Julian]

I'm sorry. Sorry. YouTube.

[Rory]

The fact that a baby boomer had the nerve to say all that is crazy to me. Y'all started all the fires and then call us lazy.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Why can't you buy a house? Cuz you the whole world up. Bum ass baby boomer.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Couldn't do.

[Julian]

All right. Well, Have a safe weekend. Be safe, be blessed. We will. We will be back in a couple days to talk to you. Until then. Tickets on sale now. New Rory Mall dot com. I'm that. He's just Ginger. Peace.

[Rory]

Raphael Asbesto invented pizza. Have a lovely day.

[Damaris]

No worrying now.