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No Warrior now.
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And we are back live from Chicago.
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Are we live? Well, we here.
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We're recording. We are recording live at the moment.
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Live in the moment in Chicago. We're on the road. We had a show in Detroit Thursday. Shout out to the beautiful people in Detroit.
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Yes, the whole Michigan area. Thank you.
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Had a great time in Detroit. And now we are in Chicago. We had a show last night at the City Winery. Shout out to all the people that came out. Had a great time.
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B
One of my favorite crowds. But we can. We can start.
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A
I like recording after shows like this. It's like, I'll see you after the show.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
So it's kind of like. I get. This is like our. It's.
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B
It's intimate.
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Yeah. Haven't. How have you been?
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B
So you. Well, you were outside.
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A
Yo, listen, man, we have a lot.
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B
Of catching up to do because usually on the road, you stay in your hotel room and we never see you.
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I made it a point this time based off of conversations that we've had when we've been on the road. And I was like, you know what? This time around, I'm. I'm going. Try to get outside a little more. We went outside together a little bit in Detroit.
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B
Yeah, for a little bit.
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Shout out to Dell. We went by the Stockx office. Seen that whole operation. They're basically just moving dope.
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B
Yeah, pretty much.
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That's. That whole setup is the car to New Jack City. We weren't.
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We weren't allowed to film.
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Yeah, we weren't allowed to film.
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Everybody was butt. Ass naked.
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Everybody was butt naked. Making sure the Yeezys weren't fake. Making sure the Prada glasses were real.
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That was interesting. I wish we could have filmed, but, I mean, I understand why, because that is kind of secretive in their process with authenticity. But it's a legitimate factory line and people standing there going through. They gave us like a little test run. Taught us what was real and fake about Yeezys. Then we had to guess.
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Yeah, I got everything wrong. I would have bought a bunch of fake, fake stuff. I would have. They would have got me.
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They said, if it has a fishy smell, it's fake.
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Yeah.
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So just bad pussy is what they're selling. Easy as right now.
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Like it.
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But that was fun. Prada. I got completely wrong. I just assumed the heavier glasses were the ones. Definitely not the case. But yeah, it was a cool experience.
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I actually really appreciate Shout out to a Guy Dell. Then we went by, first of all, shout out to Dan Gilbert. Dan Gilbert owns half of half. Well, all of Detroit.
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He owns Detroit.
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Yeah. It's not even Detroit. It's Dan now. That's what Dan Michigan is. What it is.
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He had, like. I guess, like a. What would you call it? A model of Detroit.
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A model of downtown Detroit.
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Yeah.
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And Dell was like, yeah. So all the pink roofs. Yeah, that's. Dan owns all of that, so he.
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Could have just kept it as. No pink. Just all of Detroit. You painted pink on every single roof.
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I'm like, okay, Dan, I get it. But the Beautiful office at StockX. Thanks for having us, Dell. We appreciate it. And then we had a great show in Detroit. People came out.
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Well, you're leaving out our second stop that day. We went. We went to the house that you built.
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Oh, we went by the. The Pistons.
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Yeah.
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Shout out to everybody at the Detroit Pistons. We went by the. The practice facility.
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They welcomed you back with open arms.
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Welcomed me back. They played my theme music when I walked in. They had my jersey. My jersey wasn't there. They sent it out for dry cleaning.
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B
Yeah.
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But when it gets back, they'll put it back in the rafters. We had a good time there at the practice facility. Detroit was dope, man. Had a good time.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Good time in Detroit.
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B
Cool to move around. I didn't spend any money at the casino. Like, I'm becoming, like, a really responsible human being.
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Good man.
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B
I mean, we still got, like, blackout drunk at the casino.
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Well, I mean, listen, either you're going to gamble or you're going to get blackout drunk, or you're going to get blackout drunk because you gambled and lost everything.
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So when we were walking back in from the Detroit show, there was a car of three women walking in at the same time. And, you know, I've been around for a little while. I knew what they were doing.
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Yeah.
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They were work at the casino. They work at the casino. I could tell by the way they were dressed.
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They were blackjack dealers.
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No cards, though.
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No, no cards. Your card is their card. Yeah.
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Me, Peach, and Benner go to, like, the bar area. We just chilling, having a drink.
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Yeah.
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And one of them sits down and is like, hey, we could have some fun tonight. I'm like, no, thanks. And she was a little persistent. And I was like, I know what you're doing. Just letting you know, like, I don't want you to waste your time.
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Hard worker.
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Go, you know, find someone else.
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Yeah.
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She left one to her friends. He's a. I'm like, you were trying to sell me, and I didn't want It.
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Yeah.
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That makes me an absolutely. I didn't know you had to be polite. I just not. I don't. I don't want to pay for sex. Sorry.
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It's like. I'm like, you pull up to the exit, and the. And the homeless guy wants to wash your windshield. You like, no, thanks. And they get an attitude. Yeah, it's like, same thing.
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B
So I'm just supposed to.
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Because she's looking at, like, who doesn't want a blow job?
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She had braces.
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Okay. Yeah. Then I don't want to go.
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B
I mean, I. I wouldn't have anyways, but.
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Yeah.
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That was, like, a big tell in the beginning. Like, I don't think I'm gonna pay for this.
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But that's the casino culture. You know, it's gonna be working. Working women there, you know, they figure guys are stressed out and lost some money.
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Yeah. Go spend more money.
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Yeah. Give me some. Give me some of that money. If you're gonna give the household of that money, Let me get some of that. So you got to respect the culture.
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Yeah. But, I mean, I get it. The hotel right upstairs.
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Right upstairs. Get a room.
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B
Detroit was fun in that regard. We came to Chicago, what, three days.
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A
Early, two days early, came to Chicago. So we were in Detroit. We had the show Thursday. Then Friday afternoon, we flew here into Chicago. When we got here, I took a shower, changed, and immediately left the hotel to go to the. Missy Elliott. Missy Elliott. Shout out to Missy Elliott. She had a final stop on her tour was here in Chicago at the Allstate Arena. So a friend of mine had told me two days before, and I've never seen Missy. So I was just like, you know, usually I don't go to shows. I get in the city. I'd rather just get something to eat, chill in the hotel, go to sleep. But I said, you know what? Let me get out in Chicago a little bit. So that was the perfect start to our weekend here in Chicago. Went to the Missy Elliott show. And I'm telling you right now, Rory, I'm stamping it. Missy Elliott is easily the greatest entertainer that we probably have in our culture.
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Well, she created our first accounting issue that you and I have ever had, and it wasn't because of money. I just got a notification that Missy Elliott tickets were bought, and I was like, I like Missy Elliott.
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Yeah. You text me. He was like, should I reply? Yes? I was like, yes.
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I'm sitting there like, nice. It's cool. Accounting's fine here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But, like, yeah, you know, I. With Missy.
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Right. But happy birthday to Mom. Your mom?
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Yeah, it was my mother's birthday.
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Mom, your family flew in. Mom's birthday was Friday, I believe, right?
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Yeah, it was the day we landed. And I was thinking, like, so I.
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Knew you had family time. It was fam you on family time.
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But how fucked up I am, I started thinking, like, I mean, my mom has had other birthdays.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, yeah, she'll be all right.
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She's here all weekend with me.
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Yeah, I got to go see Missy. Yeah, but no, we did. We did the dinner thing, and I have family out here, so it's cool. But how was the show, bro?
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I'm telling you right now, man. I cannot. We obviously are familiar with Missy's game. We know what she's capable of. One of the greatest artists, producers, creatives, visionaries, whatever. I mean, she set the bar for what music videos in the early 2000s would look like. She. She's just an. A complete, complete artist in every sense of the word. I've never seen her live. So this is why I wanted to make it a point to go to the show, because I'm like, I've never seen Missy live.
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She doesn't tour often either.
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So this was her first tour in 21 years.
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Yeah, it's crazy.
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So I was like, you know what? Let me catch this show. Bustin Rhymes was on the bill. Ciara was on the bill. Timbaland was on the bill.
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Okay.
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So I said, oh, no, I gotta see this show. They all have real great hits together. Yeah, they've all worked together, get to the show, got there. Ciara was just wrapping up, looked great. Busta comes on. We don't even have to talk about what Busta does.
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Was Russell in the crowd?
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He probably was somewhere in the vicinity. I mean, I wouldn't know. Maybe backstage. I don't know. Did.
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Did the house music. Did they play any future, like, in between sets?
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They didn't really play no music between sets.
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Okay.
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And if they did, it was real low. It wasn't like a DJ was on stage. It wasn't that type of. They was had because they had to. They were moving around production so much, so like people on stage. And so when Buster came out, you know, Buster's doing his real hip hop. Him and Spliff and Scratch, a tour, doing what they do. And Buster, before he finished his set, he was like, I want y'all to understand what y'all are about to see when Missy hits this stage. Like, her production is. You haven't Seen anything like this? Like, just wait until. And this is Busta. Busta puts on one of the greatest shows in hip hop. So I'm like, okay. But we all know that because we know Missy's a visionary. She's the artist. We know we to expect something grand. When she came out, bro, I'm telling you, from the time she hit the stage to the time she was done, it was like she created this world. And we were just all privileged to get a peek into it from the costumes, the choreography. All of her dances are here from Chicago. She incorporated a lot of the Chicago house music samples into some of her hits. So it was like just that vibe and the set, the colors, the pyro. I mean, Missy looked great. Just everything. The attention to detail. Everybody was in the right spots, hitting their marks. It just felt like a well oiled machine. And sitting there, I'm thinking, if Missy is able to do this in the all State arena, imagine what she can do on a Super bowl halftime stage.
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And we were talking about this in the green room and maybe I said a blasphemous question, but do you think she's big enough? I know she's doing arena tours right now and she's Missy Elliott, don't get me wrong. Yeah, but in the super bowl debate that we typically have with halftime, is she big enough? Is she a household name enough for middle America?
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I. I believe so. She's in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
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Okay.
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You can't. You gotta be huge to be in a Rock and Roll hall of Fame. That's nobody. You don't just get into that.
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But I feel like so is like Matchbox 20.
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Yeah, but it's different. It's different because of her music. The hits like Missy has had. I believe she's had Pepsi commercials.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I just think when you're on that level and then again, it's taking a nostalgic trip down. Oh, shit. Remember this record? Remember that record? Like, God, I forgot she did this record. She was performing songs that I forgot she had.
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Yeah.
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And I'm just sitting there like, she literally just took us through 17, 18 years of. Of hit records.
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I think she. I feel like she'd have to be paired with somebody. Not that Bruno Mars or Beyonce needed to be paired together, but she can.
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Be paired with everybody she was just on the stage with. Because when they ended the show, Buster came out, did the record he has with Missy Busta at the super bowl would be hilarious. Why not?
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No, I'm with it I think it'd be great. I just don't know if. If it checks out with the NFL, if they're allowing that.
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But why wouldn't it, though?
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I don't know.
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50 Cent was at a Super bowl halftime show upside down. Yeah.
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B
I guess that's true.
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A
What do we. Once 50 hit the super bowl halftime show?
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Yeah.
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What are we talking about here?
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But look what it took with Dre. Dre had to bring out Snoop, Mary, Kendrick, Eminem, and 50. That's insane. I feel like all five of them could maybe just do the super bowl halftime by themselves, let alone.
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A
And I believe Missy Elliott is one of those, because like you said, I'd.
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B
Like to see it.
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A
You can get in the medley of the songs that he's produced and written for other artists and have them. Like, if she had Sierra come out.
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B
Yeah.
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Be great. She's in the NFL. Right.
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B
Did they come back out to do the records that they all have together?
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That's how they ended the show.
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B
Gotcha.
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A
Buster came out. Yeah. Sierra came out. Of course, Timbaland came out. They gave a tribute to Magoo, and I'm missing his name. The produce, Static.
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B
Okay.
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A
So, yeah, it was just. It was just a beautiful be. I got a bunch of footage I could send Peach. It was just a beautiful show. Missy looked great. She sounded great. I mean, it was definitely one of the only person I haven't seen live that I think may have an equally or a better show than Missy that I've seen is probably Usher.
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B
Okay.
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A
As great as Chris Brown is, I don't. I don't even think Chris's show is as good.
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B
I mean, Missy and Buster, too, would probably be like 1A, 1B. As far as music videos in my childhood.
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A
Yeah.
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So the visuals they would do together.
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And that's what. And that's what I'm thinking.
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B
Sierra has a whole visual look, too. So they're all visual artists.
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A
This is why I'm thinking about. Because, you know, for the halftime show, there's no. You can get whatever you want.
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B
Yeah.
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As far as production set, they'll try anything, for sure. So I'm just looking at that and looking at her show Friday night, I'm thinking about if she had that stage and that level of production available. Like the halftime show. It's the biggest show. The things that Missy would do with that, we just have to see it. I think that we absolutely need it. We don't talk about Missy enough. When we start talking about the legends, obviously, we know what she's done, but we don't talk about Missy enough. And what I saw Friday night. We should not be talking about some of these other people as much as we do if we don't talk about Missy.
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B
I feel like you made some noise when she said make some noise.
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A
No, I was recording. I had my phone in my hand.
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Like, oh, can we hear your background?
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But I was definitely like, if you would have saw me, you would have been like, what are you doing? Put your phone down. Like, I literally. Because it was something that I knew that one. I haven't seen anything like this. I've been to the Glow in the Dark show. Great show.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I don't think it was as good as Missy Show. I've been to countless other shows that were. Bad Bunny show, which was great, great. Kind of the same thing. Creates his own world. Invite you into it.
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B
Yeah.
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I still don't think Bad Bunny show was as great as Missy Show.
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B
Did you go to Yeezus? No, that was the greatest show I've ever seen. But I could imagine Missy would top that.
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It. I see. Is Jesus the one where he had the floating stage?
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B
No, that was the Pablo tour.
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A
Or was it the one who's like. He was on a cliff.
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B
He had, like, a pyramid in the middle of the.
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A
Yeah.
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And Tribe Called Quest, before Fife died opened.
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Okay.
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It was. Yeah.
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Real hip hop.
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B
I went to the Garden and in Newark. That's how good that was.
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Yeah. No, Missy, if you caught the show, you know what I'm talking about. If you didn't, you know, it's. I don't know if or when Missy will ever go out. She hasn't been on the road in over 20 years. And that was something that Busta spoke to. Cause Busta had a show scheduled this year as well. But he said once he heard that Missy was going out, he said, yo, I waited 20 years to go on the road with her, and I wasn't gonna miss the opportunity.
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B
I mean, Busta Rhymes does. If there's a stage available, Busta will be there.
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A
He's performing. He's definitely performing. But Buster, I mean, just his. It's crazy to see how consistently great of a performer Busta has been throughout the years. Like, Busta has not tapered off at all. And Busta is probably. He's probably 50 years old now.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Looks great. Sounds great.
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B
Well, he went from steroid bus to Ozempic bus. Did he add some more weight on or.
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A
No, he looks good.
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B
Okay.
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A
He still looks good. He lost me with that video that he posted when he Was just standing on the beach fully dressed. I didn't know what Busta was trying to take us with that. With that video.
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B
Some Jodecy shit.
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A
Yeah, but I just don't know what Buster was doing that day. But you know, still, as far as just an artist and a performer, Busta and Spliff and Scratch, a tour, what they're able to do still, you know, Busta's been in the game over 30 years still, you know, they can outperform plenty of these hip hop artists today.
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B
Well, don't sound so innocent. Cause I mean, everyone understands you going to a Missy Elliott show. Yeah, but you also were like Rooftop Poppy.
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A
You was like, oh, no, I was outside.
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B
He was like, me when I was 25.
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A
That was just Friday. Let me tell you about my Saturday, Rory. I'm just giving you. Let me get into what I did on Saturday.
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B
I'm at a family barbecue, being extremely.
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A
Responsible outside for me. And you built, planting out, planting out, planting out flag.
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B
You was keeping my. My name alive out there, playing out.
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A
Flag in the streets, running around Chicago, letting them know he was in the city.
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B
Bag some numbers. Just for me though.
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A
Just for you. Just in case you want to have some conversation. Yeah, so Saturday, friend of mine lives out here, she's like, yo, I'm taking you to do tourist stuff. We're going to do all the tour, cuz. I was like, I've never been outside in Chicago. Yeah, anytime I'm here, it's hotel venue, restaurant is never like a day moving around the city. Bet I'm going to take you different restaurants, do a. I wanted to do the architecture boat ride, but that was like a two hour ride. I wasn't going to be on a boat for two hours in Chicago. Wasn't doing that, but went by the river, walked around. I went to about five, six different rooftops just to get the vibe, just to see what people were doing.
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B
I haven't heard you was drinking.
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A
Had some old fashioned.
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B
Chicago mall is crazy.
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A
Listen, I. This is what you wanted me to do, Rory. You wanted me to go outside, you wanted me to plant my flag and like your mom, get outside.
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B
Had I known you were going to the Missy Elliott show, you were going to be drinking old fashions on a rooftop. You was going to be at Soul House. I would have abandoned my family.
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A
Damn. I ain't think about it like that.
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B
Like, yeah, I would have just.
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A
I would have, I would have just disappeared like alcohol.
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B
Yeah, like, they'll be fine, they'll be fine.
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A
I'll be back. I'll leave.
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B
I'll leave money for pizza.
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A
That's how far you do. Is money on the table?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Order some pizza.
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B
They'll be fine.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Damn. I would have did that.
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A
Beautiful. The. The weather was perfect. It was just a great day walking around and I learned that Chicago is very, very much like New York City.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But just a lot cleaner.
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B
Yeah. Wasn't it Twin City? Second City. Second City. Yeah. I think that's in. This could be like a New York arrogance thing. But I think it's called Second City because it's.
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I fully like New York.
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B
It's just number two.
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A
Kanye says summertime shy. I get it.
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B
Yeah. But I feel like that's a lot of cities, especially in the Midwest, that get cold as they really appreciate their summertime.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because there's only a few months that you could really be outside.
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A
I just appreciated it because again, you know, the, the architecture, you know, the river being in the middle of the city. All of that is just the energy is dope. Clean. You can walk. And then again jumping around the different restaurants, rooftops. I went to a really nice restaurant on the river. RPM seafood.
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B
Okay.
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A
Beautiful view, great food. I had some Sauvignon blanc for you. Appreciate it. Sauvignon poppy. Yeah. It was just a great time. I had a great time. And I was outside from 2pm Till about almost 2am I did a 12 hour shift running around Chicago.
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B
How'd you end the evening?
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A
Took a hot shower.
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B
Had had a lot of catching up to do with your. Your friend from Chicago.
- [18:31]
A
Oh, no, no, no.
- [18:32]
B
That's strictly platonic.
- [18:33]
A
Right.
- [18:33]
B
Simply, she was bagging for you.
- [18:35]
A
No, no, no. It was literally just showing me around. Show me the different spots. I don't know much about Chicago, but end of the night in so house for a few. Went back to the room, showered and passed out because I knew we had to get up and. And do the show the next day.
- [18:49]
B
I'm so corny. That used to be my line all the time when we were on the road. Show me around your city.
- [18:55]
A
But did you actually mean show me around the city because I actually wanted to see. No, of course I did see a lot of Chicago, but I could like.
- [19:02]
B
Go see the city by myself.
- [19:03]
A
Yeah.
- [19:04]
B
I didn't really need local knowledge to go see the every. Go see the Bean. Like I know I could Google where that's at.
- [19:12]
A
It's cool.
- [19:12]
B
I could see the Sears Tower like everywhere in Chicago you can see it.
- [19:15]
A
I do want to come back though, because I, I want to See, you know, the other side of Chicago now.
- [19:20]
B
Good luck with you on your own.
- [19:22]
A
Why not? I just want to see. Oh, I went to the beach.
- [19:24]
B
Okay.
- [19:24]
A
I went to Shore Club.
- [19:26]
B
You should stay in, like, that area of Chicago, man.
- [19:29]
A
But you gotta.
- [19:30]
B
With the amount of gang members that were scaring me at our live show, feel like I don't want to go see that side.
- [19:35]
A
You know what I noticed, man? Like, it's. It's hoods everywhere, is gangs everywhere. I just feel like us being from New York City, growing up in a certain culture, in a certain environment, we can. We can maneuver in different cities in those areas. Because my thing is, if you always go and they just know that what type of energy you on. Just like, yo, love, respect. Just trying to see how y'all live out here. Heard it's a dope soul food spot over here trying to People not with you.
- [20:03]
B
Agreed. But still, I'd have to move around with somebody that.
- [20:06]
A
Oh, no, you gotta be with somebody that you.
- [20:08]
B
I don't know. I don't know what shirt. No, no color to wear.
- [20:10]
A
You can't Google. You can't Google image this. Like, you can't Google image where Sharks is at and where Club O is at. You can't google.
- [20:17]
B
I feel like the amount of YouTube comments about Chicago gang culture, I probably could just Google what's where and what not to wear.
- [20:24]
A
Yeah, no, you can Google that, but still have somebody with you that can kind of tell you, like, all right, we good over here? Let's go over here. Let's do this.
- [20:31]
B
And I've been to the south side of Chicago. There's great areas in. In Southside.
- [20:35]
A
Yeah.
- [20:35]
B
It's just, you know, at this point in my life.
- [20:37]
A
Yeah, I'm a little too old, too. I. Listen, I totally get it, but last.
- [20:40]
B
Time we were in Chicago, actually, though, I went down to the south side because I think division show was over there. And then we had somebody.
- [20:46]
A
Yeah.
- [20:47]
B
From Chicago with us. They took us around, like, on a quick tour. Even took us to the McDonald's that R. Kelly was kids at.
- [20:56]
A
I don't know why y'all would want to see that, but. Okay.
- [20:58]
B
I think it was just on the way. And he just pointed that out, like, yo, like, y'all saw the. The series, right? Yeah, that's the McDonald's they were talking about.
- [21:06]
A
I was like, being a landmark now is crazy. Like, somebody tell you. Yeah. Y'all seen the documentary, right? While Kelly, after school was waiting for you. This is. Why would you point that out like that's? Just weird. That's some wild shit.
- [21:16]
B
But the show itself, Chicago, one of my favorite crowds.
- [21:20]
A
Oh, my God. By far one of my favorite crowds that we've had.
- [21:24]
B
We did our couple segment.
- [21:26]
A
Amazing.
- [21:27]
B
The second one was a little interesting.
- [21:28]
A
Yeah.
- [21:29]
B
Couple came up. Well, not a couple. We didn't even know if they knew.
- [21:32]
A
Each other before we get into that. Cause we were. We saw somebody in a meet and greet, and he said he was in the city, his girlfriend had planned a weekend for them. And, you know, it was kind of, you know, things. Plans kind of fell through, didn't go as they expected. And he said his girl felt like she didn't do a good job or, you know, he wasn't enjoying herself. So I believe his name is Nick and Sierra.
- [21:52]
B
Yeah, that's Nick.
- [21:53]
A
His girl's name is Sierra. Sierra. We want you to know that Nick enjoyed herself. He had a great time. We were supposed to bring y'all on stage last night, but, you know, when we up there, just in the. In the moment, we kind of. Things slip our mind. But we wanted to make sure that Ciara understood that Nick had a great time. He loves you. He appreciate everything you did from this weekend. And he just wanted you to know that, you know, he had a great time and he enjoyed himself.
- [22:14]
B
That sounded like when you called into the radio station.
- [22:17]
A
Yeah.
- [22:18]
B
And talked about your girl. That was the podcast moment of that.
- [22:21]
A
But I wanted to, you know, but Because I felt bad after the show because we felt like he did want his girl to know that he was having a great time and he appreciated her and we totally forgot, so.
- [22:31]
B
But instead we had two people up there that worked together and had been dating for a month. What were both their names? I can't remember.
- [22:38]
A
Wayne and Amaya. Yes.
- [22:40]
B
When Wayne got up there, do you think he was like, all there? Do you. Do you think he knew where he was at? Well, yeah, because I got a little scared when he came up. I was like, how far should we take this? And, you know, I don't. I don't like to diagnose people. It's not my thing.
- [22:56]
A
That's what you love to do. You have. You have prescriptions in your pocket.
- [22:59]
B
But imagine just handing somebody some pills.
- [23:03]
A
Yeah. Like, I know what you think.
- [23:04]
B
They're on the spectrum.
- [23:05]
A
Yeah. And you don't have it in a bottle. You just have it in your palm. Yeah.
- [23:09]
B
Maybe he was just nervous, but he didn't. I could tell by his eyes. He didn't. Didn't really know where he was at.
- [23:14]
A
He's he's actually a lot similar to you, but he's just not.
- [23:17]
B
But I was on the bill.
- [23:18]
A
No, but that's.
- [23:20]
B
I knew where I was.
- [23:21]
A
That was the only difference. That's the difference. Y'all are both the only child.
- [23:25]
B
Oh, yeah, that's right.
- [23:26]
A
He's the only child. Once he said that made all the sense in the world to me. I'm like, okay, I get it.
- [23:30]
B
You know, what's up? When he said he was the only child, somebody in the crowd went, oh, like we were victims.
- [23:34]
A
Like, your parents should have more.
- [23:39]
B
I just don't feel like that's a sympathy.
- [23:41]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [23:41]
B
Like, oh, my. Are you okay?
- [23:43]
A
He was cool, though. Like.
- [23:44]
B
No, Very, very cool.
- [23:45]
A
He was cool. Amaya, on the other hand, was a little interesting. You could tell she has.
- [23:49]
B
She's lived some lives, and she definitely never listened to the podcast.
- [23:53]
A
No.
- [23:53]
B
Was dragged there.
- [23:54]
A
Yeah. Did.
- [23:56]
B
Did not even agree to come on that stage. I could see it in her eyes, too. So we asked questions. We couldn't get straight answers at all. One of them said that they were sweating the other one, and they said, no, it's reversed. We couldn't get a real answer up.
- [24:10]
A
At the end of the night. When we did the Q A at the end, he made sure Ben found him. Ben handed him the mic, and he said, listen, I just want to let everybody know she's the one that's been on my line trying to hang out, like. So Wayne stood on business at the end. He got. He sat down.
- [24:22]
B
He definitely hit us with. And another thing in the argument.
- [24:25]
A
Let me let y'all know something before y'all leave the City Winery tonight. She's been on my line. I'm not sweating her. She's been on my line wanting to hang out with me, and tonight is a night out. We're having a date. So I just want to clear that up for the people, which I think.
- [24:38]
B
She had left at that point. He was by himself, so that's why he could get his.
- [24:41]
A
Well, she'd been clocked out. She been checked out of that relationship. So.
- [24:44]
B
Because we couldn't get a real answer, Mall took her phone.
- [24:48]
A
Yeah.
- [24:48]
B
And went through it.
- [24:50]
A
With her permission, of course. She unlocked it.
- [24:52]
B
I mean, with a. With a bit of it Took some. Some talking, too.
- [24:56]
A
Yeah.
- [24:57]
B
It took you putting her phone in front of her face to try to get the face.
- [25:00]
A
Because it's that face Id. Not mine, Hers. So I put the phone in front of her face.
- [25:04]
B
She claimed she didn't have Instagram, so.
- [25:06]
A
That Instagram, but she doesn't really use it. But then when I opened it, you know, when you. You open the phone, you can see the apps that's open. Yeah, Snapchat was right there. I'm like, oh, so this is what you use? Okay. I go to Snapchat.
- [25:17]
B
And for backstory, these two work together.
- [25:20]
A
They work together. They've been. According to Wayne, in Wayne's mind, they've been married for 30 years. But according to Maya, they've been talking for like a month, kind of.
- [25:28]
B
Yeah, They've happened to just be in the same place.
- [25:30]
A
They work together. Yeah. They had the same shift a week in a row.
- [25:33]
B
So you go through the Snapchat, and at first I thought you were just gassing it, like, for entertainment purposes. What was on that phone?
- [25:41]
A
So it turns out that the guy in the. In that chat on her Snapchat is one of their co workers. They all work together. And so I'm like, oh, okay. Once you said. Because I. Before I opened it, you. You see, I said, message waiting. So I said, who is this? Because it was the first message. And Wayne said, oh, like, that's. That's. That's the homie. That's the co worker.
- [26:00]
B
Yeah.
- [26:01]
A
Oh, okay. So this is innocent. Let's just see what the co worker talking about. So I opened a Snap co worker standing on a big box of business. First line. I can't wait to eat your five from the back. Whoa, sir. Hello.
- [26:17]
B
It's a freaky ass company.
- [26:19]
A
Who are you? What's your name? I said, what?
- [26:23]
B
And you know what's funny? I asked. The first question I asked her was, have you talked to anyone else at work? And she was like, God, I would never do that.
- [26:30]
A
I would never.
- [26:31]
B
And I believed her. Yeah, she said that with conviction. Like, that was the only answer she gave. Like, would never do that.
- [26:36]
A
Not in that Snapchat.
- [26:37]
B
But meanwhile, from the back, and he spelled phi Fye.
- [26:42]
A
That's when you know he can't wait.
- [26:43]
B
I hope they're hiring. That's a. That company is crazy. How much they pay their HR person. You got to deal with that.
- [26:53]
A
But then Wayne's face, after I read it, he was kind of looking at her like, oh, so this what y'all be. Yeah. Talking about? So that's what. Wayne sat down, he made sure Ben understood. Yo, bring that mic over here. Just to let y'all know, she's been hitting me up.
- [27:07]
B
Yo, no judgments, but that many co workers is crazy to me.
- [27:12]
A
I don't know.
- [27:13]
B
Well, getting like One off secretly. I think everyone's kind of been in that situation before. Yeah, but you going, like, on dates with one and Snapchat DMing at the same time.
- [27:23]
A
I don't know if they had sexual relations yet, though. I don't know if I got that energy from them, really. I don't. I don't think. I don't. They. They had sex. No, I don't think they hooked up.
- [27:32]
B
No.
- [27:32]
A
I think they hang out. I think they, you know, talk. They flirt. They, you know, you probably like, yo, let's go this. Let's do this. And she's like, all right, cool. But I didn't get sexual energy from them. I didn't get that.
- [27:42]
B
Yeah, they were interesting. But the other couples were great.
- [27:45]
A
Shout out to Lamont, and I believe Tasia. I'm just putting couples with each other's. I don't even know. I think. I think it's Lamont and Tasia, though.
- [27:52]
B
I love when the couples get nervous and kind of tell on themselves. We didn't even ask this question, and one of the guys in the couple was like, yo, I never. My. My ex in three years.
- [28:03]
A
Like, we didn't.
- [28:06]
B
We asked your name and where you're from.
- [28:07]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm just gonna get right to it. No, I don't know. My ex. Haven't seen it three years. Cool.
- [28:12]
B
But outside of that, it was. It was a really good show.
- [28:15]
A
Great show. Shout out to the Corner Conversation podcast.
- [28:17]
B
Yeah.
- [28:19]
A
Shout out to Boo from Boom Gotti. He came to the show. Yeah, man, Chicago was great, man. We had a great, great time in the city. When I was on my way to the. To the show, actually, the elevator door opened, and your mom was standing right there.
- [28:31]
B
Yeah, she was just chilling on the third floor for the whole trip.
- [28:34]
A
I said, listen, mom, come on, bring it in. Hug. Happy birthday. That was the last person I was expecting to see when elevator doors open.
- [28:39]
B
Yeah. And she. I mean, she came to the show for the beginning.
- [28:43]
A
Yeah.
- [28:43]
B
And then when it was time to pop the fuck out of here.
- [28:48]
A
I don't want to hear what y'all about to talk about.
- [28:49]
B
No.
- [28:49]
A
But I don't blame her.
- [28:50]
B
Well, I blame it all on you. It's your influence.
- [28:52]
A
Well, yeah.
- [28:52]
B
I mean, I would never say any of these things.
- [28:54]
A
Yeah. No. If it was me, I wasn't. For influencing you to say these things.
- [28:56]
B
Yeah. I'm peer pressured every single time.
- [28:58]
A
Right.
- [28:59]
B
Did you guys do anything after the show?
- [29:01]
A
I. Well, I called Soho House because that's one of the few spots that's open at that time. That has. That's not considered fast food.
- [29:08]
B
Yeah, one of my favorite. So houses too.
- [29:10]
A
Yeah. So I went there. And as I get there. So I'm leaving the venue. I called it, like, the kitchen closes at 10:30. At this time, it's probably 9:50. Cool. Not too far, 10 minutes away. Run back to the hotel, drop my bag off, go to Soho House. When I get to Soho House, I go to open the door. The door is locked. So I'm like, what's going on? So then the valet booth is right there. The guy says, yo, give it like five minutes. They just close the doors, but I'm on a clock. The kitchen closes at 10:30. So I'm like, okay, it's 10:05. I'm good. As I'm standing there, it's a, it's a. It's a pretty. A pretty young lady standing outside. But, you know, you can tell, like, she's upset. She's yelling, she's cursing. She doesn't have any shoes on. So I'm looking around, you can tell everybody that's standing out there is kind of like they already know what's going on. I'm late to the party. I don't have any idea. So I'm lugging around.
- [29:57]
B
A Sunday night, though. It's so house Sunday. No shoes on.
- [30:00]
A
No shoes on. So I talked to the valet guy. I'm like, yo, what's going on? So he don't want to talk too loud. Cause the girl is literally right behind him. So he's looking at me. He was like, yo, like, you know, it was a little situation. She got into a fight upstairs. They kicked her out, and that's why they locked the doors.
- [30:13]
B
She left the shoes up there in the fight.
- [30:14]
A
They just kicked out. So I said, what? So as I'm talking to him, I hear more. What the you doing in Chicago? So now I'm scared.
- [30:23]
B
So now you're part of the problem?
- [30:24]
A
Yes.
- [30:25]
B
You banned.
- [30:26]
A
So now look at her. I'm like, oh. Like, okay. I'm like, what's going. I'm like, yo, what's, what's up with you? You okay? Like, nah, everybody gonna die. I'm like, me too. I just got here and I'ma die. She was like, yo, everybody's gonna die tonight. So I'm like, wait, but hold on. First of all, let's relax. You don't want to talk like that. I said, what happened? They got me up. You know, when somebody's drunk. Everybody got you up. So I said, okay, but what happened? So as she's talking, I could start to smell the alcohol. I'm like, okay, yeah, drunk. Get it? You know me. I'm thinking, pretty girl. And so how. She probably caught her dude in here, you know, trying to be low. I'm thinking that she went through a whole thing and, you know, they kicked her out, something. But where are your shoes? They're upstairs. They got my phone and my shoes. I was like, but they're bringing it to you, right? Because now I'm concerned. I'm like, boy, they're bringing it to you, right? She was like, yeah, but everybody's still gonna die. I'm like, okay, cool.
- [31:19]
B
Well, the guy at our show did say, every woman in Chicago is BD or gd.
- [31:24]
A
And I remembered that. So.
- [31:25]
B
Remembered your hand signals once.
- [31:26]
A
She said that, I gave her a hug. I said, peace and blessings. They're gonna bring your stuff to you.
- [31:31]
B
Just, you know, I'm not affiliated civilian.
- [31:33]
A
Try to enjoy your night. Then I lean over to look in the window of the lobby, and my guy that's at the front desk, he sees me. He was like, go around to the side. So I was like, oh, you got.
- [31:43]
B
The Goodfellas treatment at Soho House. Through the kitchen.
- [31:46]
A
Through the kitchen. So I was like, okay, cool. I go around the side, come in. As I get to the front desk, he starts telling me what happened. Like, yo, she was asleep, you know, and then she woke up, and then she started just fighting the people next to her. And then she slapped the chef. I said, oh, so she was really on demon time. He was like, yeah, like that. Kicked out. Go upstairs. I'm still thinking about food on the clock. Now it's 10, 10, 10, 15. I'm like, all right, I gotta get this order in. Get upstairs, run right to the bar. I'm like, hey, man, can I order some food real quick? Sure. Soon as I'm about to say what I want. He was like, oh, actually, the kitchen's closed. Y'all told me 10:30. It's 10:15. He's like, yeah, somebody. The chef got slapped. He shut everything down. I said, wait, all right, I kind of understand if I'm the chef and somebody slaps me in the face, I'm shutting the kitchen down as well, so.
- [32:35]
B
There will be no late night orders. I just want to know, how did this young woman get into the kitchen to even smack the chef?
- [32:41]
A
So from what the bartender was explaining when they. She woke up and she started fighting people next to her, she just woke up Swinging.
- [32:48]
B
Bad dream.
- [32:49]
A
She woke up and just, you know, started maybe just cursing people out and got into it. So then the staff, they start to separate people. Cause I don't even know. Is there security at Sohous? I don't even think it's security at Soho.
- [32:59]
B
Yeah, there is.
- [32:59]
A
There is. Might have been short staffed this night. Whatever they said, they started to separate them. So the chef was one of the people that came out and started separating them? Yeah, she started. As they're like escorting out, she's grabbing plates that are on tables, tossing them. And then when they kind of let her go while she was by the elevator, that's when she turned around and slapped the chef. So he shut it down. Couldn't get my vegan burger. But then a gentleman that works there, he's a waiter. I just said, bro, listen, man, I just rushed here from the venue. I was downstairs outside for like 10 minutes. They told me they locked the doors. I'm just trying to get something to eat real quick. He was nice enough. He went in the kitchen, he made it happen. Got my burger. The bartender gave me a drink, gave me some pineapple juice, bottle of water, took care of me, had a great time. And then I.
- [33:45]
B
Did the chef appear to have any marks on his face?
- [33:47]
A
I didn't see the chef.
- [33:48]
B
Okay.
- [33:48]
A
I never saw him. He probably was in the back pissed off.
- [33:50]
B
I feel a little. A little weird about that. If I'm a chef and all the knives and sharp objects, I have to defend myself and I get smacked by a chick with no shoes on.
- [34:00]
A
Yeah, I might.
- [34:01]
B
I'm probably never coming back to work. I mean, because, you know, everyone in the kitchen was calling him or.
- [34:06]
A
I don't know if the chef should be breaking up a fight.
- [34:09]
B
Yeah, it's a weird bro.
- [34:12]
A
Like, you can stay in the kitchen. Like, don't even. This ain't focus on the burger. It's other staff here that can take care of this. But overall, it was cool. You know the so House one, this is one of my favorite Soho houses in Chicago. So the vibe was cool other than that. But that was. That almost destroyed my night because if I couldn't get a burger, I would have fucking. I would have been outside with it. Like, everybody's going to die tonight, so.
- [34:30]
B
Well, you know, something similar happened to me at Dumbo House, where I got my Soul House membership, like, taken away.
- [34:37]
A
What?
- [34:38]
B
It ended up getting suspended because it was sort of a misunderstanding. But, okay, I get an email one random Wednesday, like, Rory, based off everything that happened on said date and because of this person, we no longer want you at so House. So I was like, what the.
- [34:54]
A
Right?
- [34:54]
B
So I went to Dumbo House with a few of my friends, and then they met with other friends. One of them being. I won't say the model's name. Very, very famous model.
- [35:02]
A
Okay.
- [35:03]
B
She was definitely going through her drug phase at that time.
- [35:05]
A
Okay.
- [35:06]
B
Mix that with alcohol and was losing her mind in Dumbo House. So they grab her, kick her out. I don't think anything of it. Downstairs, she assaults a security guard, throws up in the lobby, and then breaks a window of a car that was parked outside. So I'm like, what. What that got to do with me?
- [35:25]
A
Yeah.
- [35:26]
B
What was under your membership? She was your guest. I was like, I knew that for one minute.
- [35:32]
A
Well, why did they assume she was your guest?
- [35:34]
B
No, her name was under mine because, like, a group of us went to the Sohouse, and people that don't have memberships, you put their name under. And she was very famous. Like, oh, people knew. Exactly. They said her full name got you in the email. So people knew what time it was.
- [35:47]
A
Yeah.
- [35:47]
B
But it was undermine.
- [35:48]
A
Yeah.
- [35:49]
B
I had to go to, like, a soul house hearing. I was like, yo, I'm trying. I'm trying to tell y'all. Like, I apologize.
- [35:55]
A
Oh, you was ratting. You was on the stand, right?
- [35:57]
B
Yeah.
- [35:58]
A
Yo, you were snitching 100 the out of. Yo, you were stitching for your membership back. Yeah. Okay. I respect it.
- [36:07]
B
I wasn't even there.
- [36:08]
A
Yeah. And if you don't know her like that, it's even more of like a.
- [36:12]
B
And. And, you know, Dumbo House is like, there's a. There's that downstairs. That's like a bunch of other stories, too.
- [36:17]
A
Yeah.
- [36:17]
B
I was like, man, what the I got to do with this? Yeah, the assault happened over there.
- [36:21]
A
Like, I get it.
- [36:21]
B
She's on my name, so I see why you guys are reacting this way.
- [36:25]
A
Yeah. Well, that's why they do that, because they can attach to the issue. It's a problem. They can attach it to the person that they know or that's the member.
- [36:32]
B
And so this was like, 2018 maybe. So in 2019. No, 2020. Right before COVID happened, I was at. I was in LA for the Grammys, and I went to Sons of Essex or whatever the it was.
- [36:49]
A
Okay.
- [36:49]
B
And I ran into her. She was sober at this point.
- [36:52]
A
Now, did she remember you?
- [36:53]
B
Of course. No. Brand right up was like, yo, I'm so sorry for everything I did that day.
- [36:58]
A
She's like, how long Ago. Was this, like, in between the time.
- [37:01]
B
2018 to probably 2020. Yeah, January 2020.
- [37:05]
A
She. She held that apology for two years.
- [37:06]
B
I mean, we never saw each other. We weren't cool like that.
- [37:08]
A
But I respect that, though. Like, oh, so you. The next time she. She. That didn't slip her mind and she apologized, but that shit.
- [37:15]
B
No, I'm not losing my soul membership because just not just some person that happened to be there.
- [37:19]
A
Never. We never losing that membership.
- [37:21]
B
She was going nuts. She was just like, screaming at strangers, enjoying their food.
- [37:25]
A
Well, that's the. That's the drunk thing. And even the young lady last night, she was a really pretty girl. And I was just like to be. Get to the point where you're this drunk and got kicked out of an establishment like the Soho House on a Sunday night, and now you're standing outside with no shoes on and no phone. You too pretty for this. Like, you. You didn't have to. Whatever you was drinking, you didn't have to go that hard. You might be dealing with something we understand. We give grace there. But you shouldn't be standing outside with.
- [37:50]
B
No shoes on and dolo. Like, you smacking chefs by yourself.
- [37:53]
A
Yeah, like, it just. It was just a bad look. But overall, my time here in Chicago was. Was. Was wonderful. Was great. Shout out to everybody. Just. And me moving around Chicago showing love, showing support for us. A lot of people ask for you. We like Method man and Red Man. Now people see me, yo, where's Rory? With his family. Like, you know what I'm saying?
- [38:11]
B
Like, well, they usually say, yo, Maul, what's up to me.
- [38:14]
A
Yeah, they do. I don't. Still don't know how people get us. Nothing about you says mall, but.
- [38:18]
B
And it's not like one person. It happens all the time. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I've heard Sife say that, like, people will run up to him and call him Rosenberg, and he's like, do I look like I'd be a Rosenberg closer than you and I would be?
- [38:31]
A
Absolutely, absolutely.
- [38:32]
B
I still think that's insane. Like, do I look like Rosenberg?
- [38:34]
A
No, I get it. But definitely closer than you and I for sure.
- [38:38]
B
But other than that, I think we didn't miss too, too much. When we're on the road sometimes I feel like when we go out, so much happens. Yeah, it was kind of a quiet week. Your man was kind of wilding, though.
- [38:49]
A
Who's my man?
- [38:50]
B
Yachty. Yachty, I feel like, has been bugging a bit.
- [38:53]
A
I think I did see him. Something he was on. IG Live addressing the. The caribou situation.
- [38:59]
B
Not just that, a couple situations. I think Yachty for the past few weeks keeps saying, I'm never going back to social media. I'm done with this. I feel like he's been reading so many comments lately and just had his crash out moment. Like, all. All that I'm crashing out. I don't care what I say. I started with this. I'm gonna address everybody at this point.
- [39:18]
A
And that's the dangerous thing about when you jump into that, because you'll start reading comments and you'll start seeing what people are saying about you, and then you feel like you have to address certain things. But in addressing those certain things, like going on IG Live or something like that, it's going to create more comments and more.
- [39:35]
B
Yeah.
- [39:36]
A
Back and forth from. From the people that are viewing it. And now you're caught up in a whole crash out session because.
- [39:41]
B
All right, we'll get to the caribou thing. But what started it was, you know, his co host, Mitch, on that podcast, which is one of his best friends. They've been friends before he was famous. Like, that's his man's. I think Mitch was the one that wanted to start a podcast and Yachty was like, all right, I'll do it with you.
- [39:54]
A
I did see that clip of Yachty saying, I'm a rapper. I don't need to start no podcast. And like, I don't need. I did that for you to, you know, help build a platform for you and put some money in your pocket, which I could respect, you know, if you got a friend and you like, okay, let me try to carve a lane for my boy at the same time, use my influence on my platform to help build his. So I respect that. But I did see a clip of the episode they had with Key Glock.
- [40:16]
B
And this is what started the crash out, based off the comments.
- [40:19]
A
Because, and I'll be honest, I didn't like what Yachty said. Like, I just don't. I just don't. I don't think that friends should speak to each other in that type of. In that type of way when you're talking about making money and this, that, or you wouldn't be. You wouldn't have this without me. Like, when you're friends, you don't even need to say that or throw that in the, in the mix.
- [40:43]
B
Yeah. Because Keeglock was sitting there like his parents were arguing.
- [40:46]
A
Yeah.
- [40:46]
B
He just sat there quietly like, all right, yeah, so I got music out, right? I know they were having a bigger conversation, and it got clipped down. But what. What Yachty was saying was, hey, Mitch, you don't know what it's like to just start something completely from scratch. You had me. So don't just go tell someone. Go get a job, because you never had a job. He went on that ramp, and Mitch was cool. He didn't say nothing.
- [41:09]
A
Yeah.
- [41:09]
B
Then all of Twitter started killing Yachty for the same reason. You're saying, like, it's kind of fucked up to do that in public with your man.
- [41:15]
A
Yeah.
- [41:15]
B
If you're going to have that combo, do it privately.
- [41:17]
A
Mm.
- [41:18]
B
Definitely not in front of Key Glock while it's being recorded.
- [41:20]
A
Right.
- [41:21]
B
So Yachty then is really mad at the comments, but then gets on live, and it's like, well, Mitch never went to Twitter to say, yo, that's how we speak to each other. And then just went on a Fuck Mitch rant like he was supposed to do something.
- [41:33]
A
Right.
- [41:34]
B
They went from being cool to Mitch probably sitting at home like, are we still on this side? It was my job to go to Twitter to say, right, Yachty, it's okay to talk. To talk to me that way.
- [41:43]
A
Right? Yeah. I didn't. I didn't understand that. And then I seen Yachty saying that he was gonna end the podcast, that he's not doing it no more. And I just was like, I don't. It's okay to have moments where you fuck up and say things to friends and do shit and then have that moment of accountability and apologize. Like, yo, listen, man, I said some things I shouldn't have said. Cause I remember watching the Kevin Hart documentary. He had a. A situation like that on the plane with his trainer.
- [42:14]
B
Yeah.
- [42:15]
A
And he said some things to his trainer, which is one of his best. Which is one of his crazy. One of his best friends. And things that he said, just as men, you don't say to each other, but as friends.
- [42:26]
B
Yeah.
- [42:27]
A
It was just nasty because it's like, Kevin, you don't have to say you're the guy here. You don't have to say you're the superstar. You don't have to say you're the breadwinner. Yes. We all know that we're blessed and fortunate enough to have you as a friend in our life, to put out ourselves in better situations. But at the same time, you know, I'm your friend number one. But I'm also the guy that's keeping you physically in shape to be this comedic rock star that you are. I'm training you. I'm helping you, you know. You know, stay in shape and feel better about yourself, perform better. So I have a purpose here too. It's not like you're just the rich comedic superstar.
- [43:02]
B
You hired me. I have a craft. I'm a professional anyway.
- [43:06]
A
But. But in that. In that. In our work relationship, we've also developed a chemistry and a brotherhood and a friendship that certain things you just don't need to ever say. And I will give Kevin Hart props because he recognized yo was drinking, was drunk, said some things I shouldn't have said. He apologized.
- [43:25]
B
I mean, the fact he didn't even bury that footage is kind of crazy. But he looked nuts.
- [43:31]
A
But I like that because it's like, I'm gonna show y'all my up moments, but I'm also gonna show y'all how, as brothers, that we also are able to mend that shit and move through it. So this. This Yachty situation, I think is his moment to, you know, he. He said some things he shouldn't have said. But now show us the. The mending and the accountability moment.
- [43:48]
B
And also. And maybe I missed it, but I don't think I did. Mitch wasn't saying nothing for Yachty to crash out at.
- [43:55]
A
It probably was some behind the scenes that spilled over into the. In front of the camera.
- [43:58]
B
Then do that behind the scenes.
- [44:00]
A
I. I agree, but it's. That's. It's a tricky thing when, you know, we work together and, you know, if anybody knows about this type of shit we do when you work together and there's things going on behind the scenes, it's hard for that shit not to spill over in front of the camera because it's real emotions.
- [44:16]
B
Yeah.
- [44:16]
A
Like, this is how I really feel. I'm not going to sit here and act like we don't have this situation going on. I'm not going to just bury that. My energy is different, obviously, and this is why my energy is different.
- [44:26]
B
And then it got. Got paired in with the Caribou thing, which was already weird because we were at Broccoli City, and it was Yachty and a concrete family.
- [44:33]
A
Yeah.
- [44:33]
B
And, like, the talk of the entire festival was caribou wasn't on stage with them.
- [44:37]
A
Yeah.
- [44:38]
B
Even on the timeline as well. So there was clearly something going on. But the crash out had to be involved with that as well. He started leaking references of freestyles. He said, she don't write shit. He created her, dressed her. You'd never be shit, bitch. He went nuts.
- [44:55]
A
Do we think that Yachty is this something? Is he. Is he Going through something on a personal level.
- [45:02]
B
Yeah. Well, of course, I don't know, but judging by his actions publicly.
- [45:06]
A
Ever seen Yachty like this?
- [45:08]
B
No, not at all. But he has been kind of like Internet moody for the past few weeks to the point that he keeps saying, I'm not going back on social media. And I think he's just finally cracked and had to get a bunch of off his chest that he's been wanting to say for quite some time.
- [45:22]
A
Kajadi has always been great at only being seen when he wants to be seen, only being heard when he wants to be heard. Him even doing a podcast was interesting because it gave us a more of a glimpse into Yachty's personality. Yeah. Which is great. I've seen a few episodes and a bunch of clips, so it was good to see Yachty in that space. But I this Yachty, though, as far as, you know, the things he's saying and doing and going on Instagram Live and things like that. Because I've seen a little more summers than some people. I've got a little more experience just watching people. I wouldn't be surprised if there is something that comes out to where, you know, Yachty talks about maybe going through some things and he's dealing with some things emotionally and physically and probably under the influence of something. I wouldn't be surprised because this type of energy you can. And again, Yachty is. He's been great at just maintaining this really fun, clean image.
- [46:27]
B
I guess I'm with you on a possible substance thing. I hope that's not the case whatsoever.
- [46:31]
A
I hope not either.
- [46:31]
B
Or to even put that on someone. But it's not like anything's been super crazy. This Mitch moment wasn't that crazy. Nuts.
- [46:40]
A
Yeah.
- [46:40]
B
Yadi has went through way crazier Internet issues and slander than this entire thing. And then the caribou thing, I mean, it's not really a shock that you put together your crew of friends like this wasn't some big shocking surprise that the world was like, oh, the guy that's behind this group helped style them.
- [47:01]
A
Right, right.
- [47:02]
B
Wrote some bars for them. Yeah, I think that pretty much checks out. So going on these insane rants to expose everyone doesn't seem like a Yachty type of thing whatsoever.
- [47:14]
A
Yachty that I'm used to. It's Yachty again. He's been so fun and, you know, his image has been very laid back and cool for so many years. See him having his moment, I just, you know, I hope not. But it has to be attached to something Else.
- [47:28]
B
Yeah. Or something behind the scenes that Mitch did that we don't know about or that Caribou did. Because she really hasn't said anything publicly.
- [47:36]
A
And we.
- [47:37]
B
We still don't really know why she completely left. But, yeah, maybe there could have been something behind the scenes. But even she's been posting on her ig. Like, you need to move past this. I have not said a word about you. I don't care. Move the on. And also, that verse is trash.
- [47:53]
A
The on the radar verse.
- [47:55]
B
I know. That's like a huge Internet moment. And I appreciated what Yachty was saying, like, on the producer side, like, yo, I put the 808s there so everyone's ears will perk up. And you would be like the. The final star.
- [48:05]
A
Yeah.
- [48:05]
B
Of this entire thing. But I try not to sound like the old hater.
- [48:11]
A
Yeah.
- [48:13]
B
Wasn't that crazy to me that someone revealed they ghost trash?
- [48:19]
A
Like, actually, he probably should have kept that to himself.
- [48:22]
B
It wasn't a simple freestyle. Like, I. Yeah, I get it.
- [48:28]
A
I understand what you're saying.
- [48:29]
B
Like, we know he's written for City Girls.
- [48:32]
A
Yep.
- [48:34]
B
Some of that stuff like that takes. And we know Yachty is a good writer.
- [48:37]
A
Which bar he wrote for them.
- [48:39]
B
Don't do that, man.
- [48:40]
A
Because I'm gonna be disappointed if he wrote some of those, like, overly sexual.
- [48:43]
B
He probably did my.
- [48:44]
A
Why? How your brain went there.
- [48:46]
B
Okay, but see, we can't do that because there's references. You could YouTube now a big rapping Kim's verses saying some nasty.
- [48:53]
A
No. Big got one of the craziest bars ever in his own again.
- [48:57]
B
Richard Pride. But go. Go to some of those Lil Kim references that Big is rapping them. Yeah, like, he's rapping. Rapping on them shits and saying some. Some foul.
- [49:08]
A
It's always funny.
- [49:09]
B
Not. Not only did he write it, he showed Kim how to deliver that.
- [49:13]
A
This is how you gotta say it.
- [49:14]
B
Because we all believe Kim when she. Oh. Because her delivery is amazing.
- [49:18]
A
And then when we got the hardcore poster, it was like, I believe everything she said.
- [49:21]
B
Big Big was talking about suck a dick with conviction. Like, conviction.
- [49:24]
A
Yeah.
- [49:26]
B
So how could I hate on Yachty for doing some city girl records that are good?
- [49:30]
A
Definitely not hating on him, but it's just interesting when, you know, you hear some of these female artists, you know, and it's like, no, but he wrote this. He wrote this, and I'm like, okay. And he wrote that, like, down. It's like when you sent me the verse the last night you wanted me to stay on Stage. And you was like, hey, yo. Yeah, just reading a yo. I'm like, bro, you didn't have to put AO in.
- [49:52]
B
That's how the verse started.
- [49:53]
A
But Ayo is not like, part of the. It's just kind of like a. You know, just catch the beat, catch the pocket.
- [49:58]
B
You don't write a yo in the two words flow. That's part of it, if you count the syllables. And the.
- [50:08]
A
I had a delayed reaction because I read the verse where you said you texted to me. But when I got back to the room and I read it and I saw a yo, like, you texted me I shouldn't read ao.
- [50:19]
B
I apologize for exposing that. I ghost right from all it's been. It's been confirmed. But back to the Caribou, like, City Girls isn't really like, my cup of tea, but I can appreciate they could cool, like, sort of rap. Yeah, they're not bad rappers.
- [50:35]
A
They could deliver it. Yeah.
- [50:37]
B
So that yachty stuff, I think that's like, a cool stat to say that he was the writer on that stuff. That takes a lot of talent to do.
- [50:43]
A
Yeah.
- [50:45]
B
This new generation, I just. I don't get it.
- [50:49]
A
Yeah, man.
- [50:50]
B
What.
- [50:51]
A
What.
- [50:51]
B
What do they hear? I think, because I understand with the generation right below me and some. Some of their music I don't like, but I get it. I get why it works. I see the talent in it. But that on the radars. I just don't get it whatsoever. And maybe I'm just a fucking old nerd, but.
- [51:12]
A
No, it's not that. Because I always try to compare it to when I was, you know, that age, 18, 19, and what I was listening to. And I always talk about how I had to sneak to watch to listen to Snoop Doggy Style because that's some gangster rap. You know, people were frowning upon that. They were trying to, like, ban it from. From stores, things like that. But we're talking about guys that were really rapping. We talking about Snoop, Warren G. You know, flows and metaphors and, you know, that was still rap. So this era, now, this generation, now what they're doing, you know, and I never like to hate on it because, again, it was a moment where, you know, me listening to, quote unquote, gangster rap was frowned upon. And now you look at the figures that we've gotten from that, I guess, genre, like a Snoop and a Dr. Dream, where they are now. Like, my mom knows more about what Snoop got going on now than I do, and I'm just like, I couldn't listen to this when I was younger, but now you know more about Snoop than I do and where he's at and what he's doing. So this generation, the way they're making their music and expressing it, it's a little awkward for my ear, for your ear. From the generation we come from. It's a lot of out of pocket flows. You know, the melodies are creative sometimes, but in other ways, it's like I couldn't catch that melody and what they were trying to do. So I'm not. I just think there's a certain lack of real rap. It's more emotion. It's more vibe, if you want to say.
- [52:49]
B
I don't know if it's emotional. I think it is just only vibe.
- [52:53]
A
Some of these newer rappers have emotion in their ball.
- [52:56]
B
Oh, for sure. But I'm talking more about like this newer generation of. Similar to the on the radar Concrete family.
- [53:03]
A
Right.
- [53:03]
B
That and some of them, I think are okay. But.
- [53:06]
A
Well, we always talk about it. I do understand how. Why Playboi Carti is as successful and as a bigger name as he is. Whenever I listen to his music, I find myself trying to have to jump into that world. And I'm just like, I still don't. It's not connected and maybe it's not supposed to connect to me. That's always another, oh, no, they're not.
- [53:23]
B
Making it for us. That's why. That's why I can't. I can't be a hater in this music, guys.
- [53:27]
A
If you're somebody that loves music, I. I just want to. What they're listening to out there now, what they're, you know, creating. And it's like, I can't really connect to that, though.
- [53:37]
B
And I mean, I used to understand when I was in high school listening to, like, Gucci and people older than me were like, yo, what the fuck are y'all listening to? This is crazy.
- [53:45]
A
Yeah.
- [53:46]
B
I can still find the genius in Gucci. Even if you are more of a traditional hip hop type of guy. This stuff now, I. It sounds like just like reference verses of like just trying to find a pocket.
- [53:59]
A
Yeah.
- [53:59]
B
And they just never filled the words in. That's what most of the shit feels like. Or it's completely offbeat and not the way, like, low be the bass God was offbeat. But I felt like there was an art to that.
- [54:09]
A
This.
- [54:10]
B
You just talking.
- [54:11]
A
Yeah.
- [54:11]
B
You just saying shit that doesn't even rhyme at this point.
- [54:15]
A
But it's. Again, it's. A lot of. It is more. There is a lot of good music though.
- [54:20]
B
Oh, for sure.
- [54:20]
A
A lot of good music. I just can't. When you start talking about, yeah, he's rapping or she's rapping, I'm like, is. Are they. Because I. That's not. To me, it's not rap.
- [54:28]
B
Yeah.
- [54:28]
A
But it's music. It's. You know, I get it. I understand. It's the. The energy and the vibe out there, but a lot of this newer stuff is just not for me. I can't really connect to it, But I do support it because at one point in time, you know, we were out there and we were the things we were listening to. The generation before us, they didn't understand it and they couldn't with it either, so never want to on it, but I just can't really connect to a lot of this.
- [54:47]
B
Yeah. I don't know. But I mean, more power to everyone. I know it's not for me.
- [54:51]
A
Yeah. And that's fine.
- [54:53]
B
Other people seem to like it also. While we were on the road, drake updated the 100 gigs.org added three new records that he leaked the day prior on his Instagram sod, which we had heard a version of already. No Face, which I actually really like that record. And then Circadian Rhythm.
- [55:16]
A
Yeah.
- [55:17]
B
Which have cool production. Like, I'm not mad at these little three packs. I think it's cool.
- [55:22]
A
I like it. I think it's, you know, it's a way of us still getting some new music from one of the biggest artists. A very unique way of him. Very different way for him to release music. But I like it. I like everything that's tattooed, the visuals giving us behind the scenes in the studios, listening to, you know, some of our favorite songs throughout the years and seeing the process of, you know, tweaking verses, tweaking lines, things like that, the no Face one. And listening to that, I was surprised because, you know, for Drake to be in the game as long as he has been over, over probably 15 years now, for him to still be finding new flows.
- [56:00]
B
Yeah.
- [56:01]
A
Is interesting to me because he's been putting out so much music throughout the years. And, you know, whenever you see rappers like that still be able to unlock different flows, it's always dope, you know, to kind of hear that. Like, that's an interesting thing. Like, and that to me, the opening bars and no Face, I was like, okay. Like, he's, he's, he's. He's found he's unlocked a new level. Yeah.
- [56:21]
B
I mean, I'm always just here for rapping Drake. Yeah, that's Why I like it, but.
- [56:25]
A
Never complaining about that.
- [56:26]
B
I saw some people upset because he's. He doesn't really address.
- [56:28]
A
He took Yachty off sod, which again.
- [56:31]
B
I, I don't want to make this like the Yachty hating episode with him, just that I hated his verse on that. So now, now I like the record because I like Drake's verse. But people were mad that on the no face shit, he was halfway addressing what's been going on instead of a directus. But I, I don't know. I just don't care anymore. I really just don't care.
- [56:51]
A
I think that's how I think. I think that's just probably what it is from here on out. Like, you know, certain songs, certain bars, I think will be dedicated to just addressing and kind of like, you know, just, just reminding. Like, yeah, I didn't forget, you know, I know it's, you know, we went through that whole thing and it's still like on my mind. It's like, oh, okay. I'm glad they, I'm glad they showed they face. They showed their hand. Like, now I know who's who and what's what.
- [57:16]
B
Is it a bit hypocritical though, to also put on your finsto, we're going to win round two and then you just halfway address it on certain records instead of a direct again, because that doesn't win rounds. I don't know if this is considered round two.
- [57:33]
A
Say that. But what is. When is round two?
- [57:34]
B
I have no idea.
- [57:35]
A
This again. So we don't know. We just getting music. But I don't. Again, I'm not attaching everything to a. A battle and a fight and this then it's just like, you know, I, I know we're gonna get bars and, and direct it to certain people forever. And I think Drake, that's just in the zone. He's in from here on out. He's not going to forget certain things that, you know, was said and who said it. But I don't know if we ever get the battle like we got in April, May, June. I don't know if it looks like that. I think it's going to be dedicated to albums dedicated to, you know, songs. And that's. It's not going to be a whole you drop eye drop, you drop. I don't think we'll get it like that.
- [58:13]
B
I don't think so either. I think anything will really just be addressed on albums, if anything.
- [58:17]
A
Yeah.
- [58:18]
B
But I did see a lot of rumors that Kendrick is on the way, which I Think is like DJ Head.
- [58:25]
A
Has been dropping blue caps for like five days behind everybody talking about.
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B
Yeah, but also what. What would be Cap? I also think the Kendrick is coming prediction is also a weird one. Like an A list artist isn't about to put out more music.
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A
Right?
- [58:40]
B
Like, we know Kendrick is going to continue to put out music. So either say a date or don't say anything. And also how could it be Cap? Is DJ Head saying Kendrick's not putting music out ever?
- [58:52]
A
Also to people that are saying things and saying that they spoke to Kendrick and you know something is on the way like immediately like in the next couple days. I think that's what DJ Head is more so speaking to like cut it out. Because I'm obviously have a close ear to the camp. I'm in communication. And he probably knows that Kendrick is not even done with the project yet.
- [59:15]
B
I also just feel like Kendrick doesn't speak to people like that at all.
- [59:19]
A
He speaks to not many, but he has his select few in his circle that he speaks to. And you know, I think head has a. Has a. Has a. Has a finger on the pulse of that. I think he. He knows directly when Kendrick is dropping.
- [59:32]
B
Yeah, I did want to see the Kanye concert stream in South Korea, but we just didn't have time because the set list looked fucking crazy. He started out mainly with new shit, but he went through a whole run from All Falls down for the next two hours of just all classic hits.
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A
This was just. He just wanted to do a random concert.
- [59:59]
B
Yeah. 41000 people. South Korea for the of it insane. He even did four or five seconds and I'm the only one that would. Would have sung along.
- [60:11]
A
That jam.
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B
Listen, man, when you go start with All Falls Down. Jesus Walks through the Wire Heard him say Touch the Sky Gold Digger Diamonds Late Good Morning Stronger I Wonder Good Life Can' Nothing Flashing Lights Homecoming Heartless Run this Town Power all the Lights Monster Is Crazy Devil in a New Dress Runaway Hell of a Life Mercy Click on site. Black Skinhead New Slaves Blood on the Leaves Bound to Otis All Day Only One Ultra Light Beams Father Stretch My Arm it just continues. This is like an.
- [60:39]
A
This is insane, insane catalog to run off like that. That's. That's absolutely crazy that. That artist. Those are his records.
- [60:47]
B
I. I don't know. Can anyone really see Kanye Universes? Looking at this makes me think he would be number one.
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A
I mean the only artist would be Drake.
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B
Yeah, but I mean we saw he already took that up.
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A
He's.
- [61:04]
B
He played CLB over.
- [61:06]
A
So you said South Korea. 41, 000 people. What was this photo? Because we know Kanye is very intentional. He's very. Everything is.
- [61:13]
B
Well, he started the show with Adidas, so I think he just had some things on his mind, that's all.
- [61:18]
A
So this was a Adidas concert in South Korea?
- [61:21]
B
Yeah.
- [61:21]
A
He could have did that in, like, the Meadowlands.
- [61:23]
B
They probably got factories over there.
- [61:24]
A
I think that's more so what it is. I think.
- [61:26]
B
I think he was definitely doing some closed shit over there.
- [61:28]
A
It's a business move for sure for Kanye. He's definitely probably in business with a manufacturer over there.
- [61:33]
B
Yo, and they. They were making, like, fake leaked text message conversations that were catching a lot of steam from, like, Twitter pages that post real facts between him and Playboi Carti. Like, yo, I just got the pass for North Korea. You need to meet me now. Bring the laughing gas. Like, people were really concerned. I'm like, wait, y'all thought Kanye got a North Korea pass? Hit Playboy Cardi.
- [62:00]
A
Service is just like, how do y'all come up with this? Man?
- [62:03]
B
Speaking of laughing gas, did you see Danny let. Danny Lee. Danny Lay. Oh, it's funny.
- [62:08]
A
Danny Lay get a dui?
- [62:09]
B
That video footage?
- [62:10]
A
No, she.
- [62:12]
B
Well, unfortunately hit somebody that was on a scooter in Miami with her Range Rover and then just kept driving, gets pulled over. Cops had the body cam on. She said, I'm an artist. I'm a singer. You can't arrest me.
- [62:25]
A
She said that?
- [62:26]
B
It's on camera.
- [62:28]
A
I'm an artist. I'm a singer. You can't arrest me.
- [62:31]
B
And the cop said, ma'am, you hit somebody with a scooter, we can arrest you.
- [62:36]
A
She know. She know. Michael Jackson got arrested before. This is the greatest artist ever. He got arrested. Danny, you're coming with us. You're definitely getting arrested.
- [62:46]
B
A former president you think you're above. You can't arrest.
- [62:53]
A
They arrested Dr. Martin Luther the King. You're getting arrested, man. Are you crazy? And you hit somebody, it's not like they just pulling you over.
- [63:01]
B
You hit somebody and they suffered from, like, a ruptured kidney and, like, a broken spot. No, it was up.
- [63:06]
A
Oh, no, that's. Well, why didn't she stop?
- [63:09]
B
She was probably so drunk, she didn't even realize she did it. That's what I'm guessing. Oh, because there was no footage of the actual hit and run, just the body cam footage of the cops pulling over. Yeah, but, like, a mile down the road from where the scooter was. Yeah, that was. That Was.
- [63:23]
A
I still don't understand how people get DUIs now. I mean, bro, if you know, you're. If you know, you're twisted.
- [63:30]
B
When I got it. When I got a dui, well, it got thrown out, but there was no Ubers.
- [63:35]
A
Exactly. Now it's like, bro, you can leave the car here. Like, you can come back and get the car tomorrow. Like, getting a DUI now is just such an irresponsible thing. Like, what the. Literally call a car to come pick you up from anywhere.
- [63:47]
B
And you're also in Miami. You can't even walk out of restaurant without a card asking you do you need a ride?
- [63:54]
A
It's just crazy, man. But hopefully whoever was hit by, you know, the vehicle is okay. A ruptured. You said kidney.
- [63:59]
B
I believe that's what it was.
- [64:00]
A
Yeah, man. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. Is she. So she's facing DUI charges.
- [64:04]
B
Yeah. I'm not sure if. I'm sure there's gonna be more Reckless.
- [64:09]
A
Hit and run, DUI, endangerment.
- [64:11]
B
I'm sure all that is. Is there, but. All right, let's get to voicemails.
- [64:16]
A
You've got mail.
- [64:17]
B
We have to go back to the old potting days with headphones on.
- [64:20]
A
Yeah, I haven't.
- [64:21]
B
It's been a while since I put these. Put the cans on.
- [64:25]
A
Put the cans on.
- [64:27]
B
So we have our first voicemail. Does not want to be anonymous. So this is Seth.
- [64:32]
C
What's up? Big fan of pod. Always have been. My name is Seth. I'm from Raleigh, North Carolina.
- [64:38]
A
Raleigh.
- [64:38]
C
Yeah. Let's get into it. So, boom, I'm a single dad, Me and my BM separated or whatever. She, you know, went one way, I went a different way. Found out she was on drugs. She OD'd in front of my son and her mom. Thank God her mom was there, blah, blah, blah. Put restraints on her as far as far as my son, and then she got the better for the court, blah, blah, blah. A year later, boom, she runs into a tree. Apparently, she's on drugs in the car with my son. So then, yeah, of course, I did not let her see him like that. You know, she used to have supervised visits, a few hours with her mom on the weekend. Boom, her mom. She started wilding her mom and got no, you know, restraints on her. She trying to get a. To threaten me. Da, da, da. I'm not playing like that because I'll have to kill a in front of my son. So, no, you can't see your child.
- [65:28]
A
Boom.
- [65:29]
C
She hasn't seen him in like six months. She don't even call this for two months. She don't even call him or something. So anyways, boom. I'm trying to get her to be able to see him. I just don't want my son to have to go to a facility being watched. And you know what I'm saying, it's weird. But also I don't want my son to be in public with a stranger, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like. Because I told her, I just don't want to facilitate that shit because you had me ended up killing. You know what I'm saying? This is.
- [65:52]
A
Nah.
- [65:53]
C
So I'm in a rock and hard place. I'm just an entrepreneur trying to do right, take care of something every day. You know what I'm saying? It's. I'm different. You know, she went one way, I.
- [66:01]
B
Went a different way.
- [66:02]
C
Please help me.
- [66:03]
B
Well, I mean, I'll start with that's a very unfortunate situation. That's. That's very up.
- [66:08]
A
Yeah.
- [66:09]
B
But this is where the court system, I think, would.
- [66:13]
A
Yeah.
- [66:13]
B
Be. Be in his. A man's favor for once.
- [66:16]
A
Yeah.
- [66:16]
B
And if it does take those supervised visits in the beginning, I think it's super necessary. Even when she's getting clean, she's still running into trees on drugs.
- [66:26]
A
It's, you know, when you start talking about parents having an addiction problem and, you know, this is a unique situation because the father, you know, a lot of times we see it, it's the dad that has issue. But growing up in my own family, I know that a lot of the times the moms have addictions as well. It's just like you said, it's probably gonna have to go through the courts to let the courts handle that. It's tough because he does sound like the type of dad that I don't want to keep my child from his mom. I want him to have a relationship with his mother. But it's. I don't think it's safe. I definitely don't want him around any other guys.
- [67:01]
B
Yeah.
- [67:01]
A
That she's dealing with.
- [67:04]
B
So.
- [67:04]
A
Yeah, man, it sounds like you gonna literally have to take this. Take this to the courts and. And play this thing by the books because it's a very unfortunate situation. But at the same time, the kid is the priority, the safety of the child. No matter what you feel towards your baby, mother and things like that, that's to the back burner. The child has to be safe. And you want it to be a type of environment where it's you know, it's healthy, it's loving. The kid doesn't feel any remnants of any drug addictions and any problems or issues that you and your child's mother may have. So, yeah, you got to play this one by the book. Don't, don't. You can't fuck around with this one.
- [67:41]
B
And the court system would force her to choose her kid or drugs, because they're gonna. She'll gonna have to pass a drug test to even get out of supervised visits or anything like that. So, yeah, it's. I know it's fucked up because now you gotta think your son is gonna have to go to the court and sit with somebody there. Like, it's a really weird experience to put a kid through, but I can't think of another option outside of that.
- [68:03]
A
You keep the kids safe. Whatever you gotta do to keep that child safe. You know, play about a book, do things the right way.
- [68:09]
B
Cool. All right, let's get to the next one. Get the cans back on.
- [68:13]
A
Cans loaded.
- [68:14]
B
Turn me up in my headphones.
- [68:18]
A
Yo. What's good, Josh? Your boy Young and Miyagi. One of the admins of the Aurora Mole group page on Facebook. Shout out baby D. Already know. We was having a discussion about Jay Z and the Button Up Jeans era, and somebody said that he stole that swag from Tim Duncan. Basically that Tim Duncan's the pioneer. Jay Z saw it and then the rest is history. Mall I know you from that era and you was actually there. So we want to know, is that true? Did Jay Z really get the swag from Tim Duncan? You already know. Shout out to anybody. Love is love. Saying that Jay stole Tim Duncan's swag.
- [69:02]
B
Tim Duncan being one of the worst dressed basketball players of all time ever is insane. But he kind of has a point. No, I don't.
- [69:10]
A
I would have to, because for a while, Tim Duncan was giving us T shirts, sandals, and jean shorts. Jay never gave us that.
- [69:17]
B
Yeah, he did one when Cam called him out.
- [69:19]
A
He didn't have jean shorts on King of New York, but he was on the beat, so that's. That's, that's fair. But I think. I think. I think Tim might have got that from Jay. Or I think that was around the time where the NBA stressed that dress code and you had to wear a collar shirt. Because I remember they, they, they had did that after a while.
- [69:37]
B
It was like, because of Iverson.
- [69:39]
A
Well, because of Iverson for sure. But they had got a little lax at the point. But then it was like, all right, collar Shirt, Whether it's a polo, it doesn't have to be the full button up long sleeve. It could be a nice polo shirt with some jeans. So I think that was around the time. That was around 2005, 2006.
- [69:56]
B
Did they all get it from Jordan, though?
- [69:59]
A
Jordan wore full suits. You never seen Michael Jordan show up to the game with jeans on.
- [70:03]
B
Nah, but we saw photos of him with the worst oversized button up shirts and the baggy. That's what he's wearing currently in 2024.
- [70:11]
A
Yeah, yeah, he's still baggy, but he.
- [70:13]
B
I feel like he was wearing that shit before Tim and Jay.
- [70:16]
A
Yeah.
- [70:17]
B
But we never seen and looked even crazier.
- [70:18]
A
Yeah, but I never. I can't remember seeing Mike in the 90s with jeans and a button up. I can't remember that. But I do think that the dress code and Tim Duncan wearing a button up shirt, I think. I think. I think Jay might have been doing it before the NBA made it a thing, I think. So was that when. When did the S Dot Carters come out?
- [70:42]
B
Oh, three.
- [70:43]
A
Yeah. So it might have been right around something like that. Might have been right around that time.
- [70:48]
B
He thought. He thought that would lay better with the S Carters.
- [70:53]
A
I mean, I don't know, man. Back then it was just nasty decisions was being made. When you look at the fashion back in the early 2000s, was that like a.
- [71:01]
B
An announcement amongst the crew, like, we're not wearing throwbacks anymore?
- [71:06]
A
That was just. Jay said it one day and it was like, okay, that's what you want. Cool. But I think I may have done that maybe once at a party. Like, it was like a girl was having like a sweet 16 or something. And I think I threw on a button up with some jeans and I was just like, looking back, I was like, this is the nastiest outfit choice probably ever.
- [71:26]
B
Oh. I mean, we were. Oh.
- [71:27]
A
She took it to another level. He had the blazer.
- [71:30]
B
Yeah. That was a crazy.
- [71:31]
A
With the jeans and the button up. Yeah.
- [71:33]
B
He tried to take like the neo soul look.
- [71:35]
A
Yeah.
- [71:35]
B
And make it pop.
- [71:39]
A
Yeah.
- [71:39]
B
He was definitely like, we were talking about the Eric Robinson special. Like, Usher tried to make that cool for pop stars.
- [71:44]
A
Yeah.
- [71:45]
B
And then Ryan Leslie took it, and I think it was over after that.
- [71:47]
A
Yeah. But saying that Tim Duncan inspired Jay's like, fashion is hilarious.
- [71:53]
B
We. We were heavy on the button up. Like, we really just listened to whatever Jay was saying.
- [71:58]
A
It was a time where he was probably the most influential when it came to fashion as far as hip hop, for sure.
- [72:04]
B
It was just fucked up to do to the kids, like, how expensive throwbacks were. And I was like, we're not doing that no more.
- [72:09]
A
Yeah. Like, well, I got a whole closet full. I got tags still on them. Like, you're not doing these no more. Throw these out.
- [72:14]
B
Players. I don't even know. It was just. Yeah, it was just a throwback Nuggets jersey. I don't know who the fuck this is.
- [72:19]
A
The early 2000s fashion was, like, looking. It was nasty, man. Nasty.
- [72:24]
B
Probably the worst outside of, like, that 09 rock star era. That was by far the worst.
- [72:31]
A
Oh, no, that was Ed Hardy.
- [72:33]
B
Yeah. That to me, Dutch, probably the worst era ever. Once we tried to, like, tighten up everything, it was bad. A lot of bright colors. A lot of nasty, nasty times.
- [72:42]
A
Yeah.
- [72:42]
B
A lot of G shock.
- [72:43]
A
Christian order. What is it? Christian order. J.
- [72:45]
B
Yes.
- [72:46]
A
Yeah. That was usually like, you look like you had a bunch of Christians before that. Oh, okay. Yeah. You was a little too young back then.
- [72:53]
B
Also, I never wore Ed Hardy. I would have. I just didn't, you know, I couldn't.
- [72:56]
A
Devon Dutch has just trying to make a comeback. I see.
- [72:58]
B
I think they did.
- [72:58]
A
I see some girls online wearing it. Like, they. They look good. With the Von Dutch trucker. Yeah.
- [73:02]
B
Trucker hats in general, I feel like, kind of made a comeback.
- [73:04]
A
Yeah, no, for sure.
- [73:06]
B
It's crazy, that. All right, so it's Tim Duncan for that. Do we give Ashton Kutcher all the credit for the Von Dutch era?
- [73:13]
A
I like to go to my guys that, you know, I'm a Duck Dynasty watcher man. They had trucker hats off. You know, I'll be in my Duck Dynasty binge mode sometime. They got a plethora of trucker hats that they wear down in the deep South. Yeah.
- [73:26]
B
Because I. I feel like Punk'd really put those hats on the. On the map. It was. It was one season of Punk'd, and then in the summer, I went to the Jersey Shore, and they were on every shelf.
- [73:38]
A
Yeah, that shit was everywhere. 100%.
- [73:39]
B
Like, you could, you know the games at the Jersey Shore. Yeah, you could, like, wine, Dutch hat. Like, it used to be, like, scooters and bikes and paintball guns.
- [73:47]
A
Yeah. You can wear a Von Dutch trucker hat here tonight.
- [73:50]
B
That would have been fun to talk to Vinnie about just that fashion era.
- [73:53]
A
Yeah.
- [73:53]
B
Because that was, again, like 09. It didn't matter. The Italian whites, regular whites, black people all dressed.
- [74:02]
A
You ever went outside, like, on a regular day and just had, like, a wristband on your arm for a Couple years. Why?
- [74:09]
B
I used to wear headbands and I wasn't sweating for no. For no athletic reason whatsoever.
- [74:16]
A
It was some nasty times, man.
- [74:18]
B
I. I hated going to church, but when Iverson wore those what would Jesus do Things, I was asking my mom and she was like, why do you want that?
- [74:28]
A
Yeah.
- [74:28]
B
I was like, oh, no. Because, you know, I think it'd be good at church to wear that lion like Iverson has. And then, you know, I match it with a rubber band.
- [74:34]
A
You have to naturally. Rubber bands on your wrist at church. Where you going?
- [74:39]
B
Yo. I had a leg sleeve at one point.
- [74:42]
A
Like, just walking around. Yeah.
- [74:45]
B
Like, if. If I were. If I was pairing it with, like, basketball shorts. Yeah, that was. That was a time I never wore leg sleeve.
- [74:54]
A
Like Angel Reese.
- [74:56]
B
I'm the Tim Duncan of Angel Reese.
- [74:59]
A
You inspired Angel Reese. That's. You're walking around with a leg sleeve.
- [75:03]
B
You know, what was the sickest thing? And I. I did it for a little bit, but I could not play basketball when they had the sweat finger things. That was the sickest trend ever. Like, cool wrist, whatever.
- [75:14]
A
Yeah.
- [75:14]
B
Why were they. Why were people putting wristbands on their fingers?
- [75:19]
A
Iverson had. Was famous for that. But that was a. Reggie Miller used to tape his fingers. He used to tape his fingers.
- [75:25]
B
Tape is one thing, but the actual, like, headband and wristband cloth, I think that was. How do you shoot with that on?
- [75:30]
A
Yeah. I didn't. I didn't understand how you dribble with that, like, wristband on your fingers. But Reggie Miller did it to tape his fingers so that his follow through and his form on his shot was, like, consistent all the time.
- [75:41]
B
It is interesting that he brought up Tim Duncan, even though that was funny. He does raise a point, though, with basketball. Used to, like, really set trends with fashion. I don't think that happens anymore. Like, when was the last time a basketball player really set a fashion trend?
- [75:57]
A
The last time a basketball player set a fashion. That's a great question. It's different now, man, because we don't. We get so many. We get to look at so many different people in so many different spaces with. With social media and things like that. So the inspiration comes from so many different places. Before, you know, you looked at the athletes for inspiration, but now you can look at just a local guy in California that's just fashionable and be like, I like the way he put that together. Or somebody from New York. Like, you don't have to look at just the public figures anymore. You can look at random people in different Cities that just know how to put outfits together.
- [76:32]
B
And I mean, even, you know, Iverson was obviously getting his fashion from the culture. Like, it wasn't. He wasn't just coming up with all of that.
- [76:39]
A
Yeah.
- [76:40]
B
But I think even on the court, he was setting fashion trends. Like my dumbass wearing what would Jesus do Shit, stupid headbands. I have not seen a basketball player do that. And maybe. Maybe Bron is going to sound like a weird take Bron with doing the shorter shorts.
- [76:57]
A
And that wasn't even a Braun thing. I don't think Braun was the first person to do the shorter show.
- [77:02]
B
He was the. Definitely the first.
- [77:04]
A
Because if you look at Braun when he came in the league, he had.
- [77:06]
B
Very big shorts because he came in. In 03 when that was the thing, but he was the first one to get, like, a tailored uniform. And then I saw a lot of even like, college teams starting to like, get shorts that, like, really, really fit.
- [77:19]
A
I don't know if it was Braun, though. I think I'm gonna be honest. I. I might give that the tailor form. I might go to the Warriors. I think Steph and Clay were. Because it was one time they wore the NBA was like, flirting with the shirt tops. It kind of.
- [77:41]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [77:41]
A
Like the shirt, like the top and the shorts. It looked like it was connected.
- [77:44]
B
Yeah.
- [77:45]
A
I was like, these is wearing leotards now.
- [77:47]
B
Yeah, that was. That was weird.
- [77:48]
A
But I think that players just adopted. Went back to the shorter shorts after that. I think after the uniform started, they started tweaking the uniforms in the NBA. I think players started going back to the shorter shorts. It's funny how things is everything is on a cycle because you look at footage from guys in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s and how short their uniforms were. And then you go to the. You know, Michael Jordan was actually one of the first to bring in the baggy shorts into the NBA because he wore his North Carolina shorts underneath his bull shorts.
- [78:24]
B
And then the fact.
- [78:25]
A
Michigan, obviously, Chris Webber, Jalen Rose, and then what they did for the culture as far as just style on the court, that translated into the NBA as well.
- [78:36]
B
I can't see it going back to baggy with sports just because that's stupid to me. I see baggy clothes obviously coming back in fashion. And, like, when the players even walk into the arena.
- [78:48]
A
Yeah.
- [78:49]
B
Most of the young, younger players are back on the baggy.
- [78:51]
A
Yeah.
- [78:51]
B
But to play in baggy shorts, to me, it never. Like, Iverson looked super cool.
- [78:56]
A
Yeah.
- [78:56]
B
But his crossover could have been even crazier.
- [78:58]
A
Yeah, yeah. Like, it's just too much fabric.
- [79:00]
B
Like. Like when he stepped over Tyrone Lou, what was so funny about that, was like, his shorts graced his face, wiped the sweat off the couch. How did you play in this?
- [79:11]
A
Yeah, let me wipe this sweat off your face while I step over you.
- [79:15]
B
I just don't know how people like, I played pickup in baggy, but, yeah, it was awful. Pickup basketball.
- [79:21]
A
It's just not a good at that level. How the were you doing that shorts on? Playing bad. It's just not a good. A good idea. Like, that was. That was always stupid. But I understand where the influence came from. But, yeah, I don't think that the NBA. I can't see players going back to baggy shorts. I think that it's just more comfortable to have shorter shorts on.
- [79:39]
B
Yeah.
- [79:40]
A
When you talk about just the mobility, running around, obviously, you know, plays no matter what, if they had bag shorts, they were still great. But I just think aesthetically, I think athletes would rather have more leg exposed than to have shorts down to the underneath their knee.
- [79:58]
B
Do we think maybe Cam Newton was the last athlete to start a fashion trend?
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A
I haven't seen that take off. I haven't seen anybody dress like Cam Newton. I didn't see anybody kind of pick up on his. His. His fashion. His fashion tips. But, you know, I respect him because it's like, listen, man, he wants to be himself. He's obviously in that space now where you know him for his style and what he's wearing. But I think that no matter what, if you're. You have to be great at whatever you're doing to have that influence transfer over from what you're wearing.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Cause if you're just an okay subpar player, nobody ain't dressing like you.
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B
Yeah. That was even when I was younger. Like, you never wore 23 unless you were like, the best player on your team that was set aside for that.
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A
Yeah, it's reserved for a select few.
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B
I had a few coaches when I was, like, in middle school that did not let anyone wear headbands. Cause they just weren't. You not good enough.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, to wear that Risk. I know it's fast. You're not that good. You can't be trash and sit on the bench and wear that stuff.
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A
Yeah. I remember one time I was playing in the league and I went, you know, when they bring the uniforms out, I'm looking for 23. My damn. I want 23. Coaches. Like, here's your number 14. It. I'll take it. I'll give me the 14. It is what it is.
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B
Like my. My. My freshman year, freshman football, one kid had had the visor joint, and my coach made him take it off and said, you only play special teams. What you need a tent for? Because that is crazy. To put a vibe, like, over the helmet. You think you Ricky Williams or something.
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A
The sun will not be in your eyes. You won't even be out there that long. I promise you. You're in for one down and get out.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I always, always wanted to do the visor. I just didn't think I was cool enough.
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A
It was a funny story. My boy, they was playing AAU out in Vegas, like, back in, like, late 90s, early 2000s. And my homeboy at the time out in LA, he was one of the best players in the city. His name's Tony Bland. Shout out to my man T. Bland. He used to wear. He was the first one to wear the soccer socks in basketball, but he was the best player in the state of California at the time. You know what I'm saying? So it was like he could wear what he want. So my boys, that was from out here in New York, you know, they went to Vegas for aau, and, you know, they would all see Tony Bland in the gym with the high socks. So shout out to my boy, Andre Barrett. He said, yo, man, we all went to the store. He was like, we all bought the high socks. We like, yo, we wanted to wear the high socks. Like, yo, he. That shit look cool. So mind you, they have. They have the warmups on the pants on. On the layup line before the game. So the coach don't know that they all got on high socks. He said, yo, they took the warmups off, and they get ready to go on the court. And the coach seen the socks, subbed everybody out, take them shits off. Mind you, these are some of the best high school players in the city. Coach didn't give a shit. Like, yo, we not. What are you doing? But it's just the influence that Tony had with the high socks to make cats from New York. Cause they always see him and they heard about him, like, yo, he the kid from la. The kid from California that's wearing the high socks. So Dre said, they all went and bought the high socks. Coach was like, yo, sub out.
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B
Yeah. When I was in high school was when Reggie Bush was the biggest thing ever.
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A
Oh, man. And he.
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B
He used to do the double sock, like, up to the pad, but then also had another pair of socks that was a different Color. Yeah, we all did that shit. Not realizing that we didn't have the type of cleats that he had.
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A
We forget that part. Like not only did you not have the cleats, you didn't have the game that Reggie Bush had.
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B
So now we got two. Cause you know, football socks are thick. Yeah, we got two pairs of socks on. And go out and try to play with some cheap ass fucking cleats. My feet never hurt so much after that. We're like, yo, we can't. Can't do the Reggie Bush no more.
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A
Just doing dumb shit. Well, thank you to Detroit. Yes. For showing love. Had a great time in. In Michigan. Shout out to everybody that came out. Chicago, thank you for the love. Again, amazing show. Salute to everybody that came out. We had people driving from St. Louis, different parts of Ohio. It was just a lot of love in the room.
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B
People from Jersey.
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A
People from Jersey that came out. Somebody flew in from Long Beach, California. Shout out to him. But yeah, man, London is up next. Yeah, we will be in London in September. September 18th, I believe. Benner. September 18th, we are in London. October 17th, we are in Toronto. November 22nd, we are in Atlanta. December 13th and 14th, we will be back home in New York City. Gramsey Theater Tickets available now newroariamal.com I.
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B
Will also be in Vegas this coming weekend. No, next weekend. September.
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A
That's why you saved your energy on the Chicago trip. So you got rollover energy. You had to parlay your energy for Vegas.
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B
First of all, I'm going to Vegas.
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A
And I know why you're going to Vegas.
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B
To talk about my album with Soul house.
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A
There you go.
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B
And you know, I might extend my trip. You never know who.
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A
Who's counting. It's weak.
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B
It's week one.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Football, you know, Vegas. Gonna be buzzing the Raiders.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Maybe I'll go by the stadium. Yeah, you know, super. Some family fun.
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A
500 on black. I get it.
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B
I don't think there's hookers with braces in Vegas.
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A
They might be hookers with something else in Vegas. Not braces, though.
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B
It's probably curable. Right.
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A
They do need their medical card though, I think. Work. Yeah, they do. They have to have.
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B
That's why it's legal in Vegas, right?
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A
Well, it's not technically legal, but it's just frowning upon. Yeah, yeah.
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B
Like, yo, just when I know. Do it on certain.
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A
I know what you're doing. Go over there with that shit. Tickets available now newroymal. Com all right, bro. On our way back to New York.
- [85:51]
B
Yes, I have to make this flight.
- [85:52]
A
All right, well, let's get the fuck out of here. We appreciate y'all. We love y'all. Until next time, be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace, new warrior.