Episode 298 | I Won't Wait For You

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL - Episode 298 | "I Won't Wait For You"

Release Date: August 30, 2024
Hosts: Rory, Mal, Damaris, and Julian
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Opening Lyrics and Light-hearted Banter (00:00 - 01:04)

The episode kicks off with Rory reciting heartfelt lyrics from "I Won't Wait For You," setting a reflective tone. Mal humorously comments, "That's how you start podcasts" (00:56), leading to playful exchanges among the hosts about podcast beginnings.

2. Nostalgia for Karate Classes and 90s Action Movies (01:04 - 03:27)

The hosts delve into childhood memories of karate classes, discussing belt progression and reminiscing about iconic 90s action stars like Steven Seagal, Van Damme, and Bruce Lee. Damaris nostalgically states, "Steven Seagal was the best ever" (02:12), while Mal contrasts the enduring appeal of classics like "Under Siege" (02:29).

3. Modern Dojo Scene and Crime-Fighting Fantasies (03:27 - 04:56)

Transitioning from nostalgia, Mal suggests visiting a local dojo: "There's a dojo on Houston that I walk by. We could all go over" (02:44). The conversation shifts to using martial arts for good, with Damaris expressing a desire to "fight crime at night like Daredevil" (03:01), blending reality with comic book fantasies.

4. Vegas Experiences and Cautionary Tales (03:59 - 08:00)

The discussion moves to Las Vegas, where the hosts share anecdotes about the city's notorious reputation. Mal recounts Lil Baby's recent arrest humorously: "Kia for my birthday last year, got me a whale watching, like, certificate... I Just never" (06:22). They debate Vegas' allure versus its pitfalls, emphasizing the importance of safety and moderation during visits.

5. Celebrity Gossip and Fashion Fakes (08:00 - 12:10)

Shifting to pop culture, the hosts tackle the prevalence of fake designer goods. Damaris criticizes the trend: "I thought you had to take a test and like, All right, you can go see a whale now" (06:50). They share personal stories about unknowingly purchasing counterfeit items, with Rory admitting, "I bought a Dolce and Gabbana belt for, like, $50" (09:12).

6. Podcasting News: Mandy's NBC Acquisition Rumors (12:10 - 19:03)

The conversation turns to industry news, specifically rumors about Mandy's attempts to purchase NBC. Mal remarks, "We've just saved Mandy stirring up the podcast world" (19:28), while Rory humorously references past failed acquisitions: "Mandy about to buy NBC. I think that's what it is?" (19:36).

7. Deep Dive: Meek Mill and the 'Next Big Three' in Rap (19:03 - 32:28)

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Meek Mill's standing in the rap industry. The hosts debate Mandy's tweet claiming artists like Wiz, Future, and Kanye have surpassed Meek: "Poor Mani. In her tweet, she said wiz2 chains future..." (32:50). Damaris passionately defends Meek, asserting, "No. Not on no day of the year. Future, he make better songs. He's a better artist" (29:58). They explore the legacy, lyrical prowess, and influence of Meek Mill compared to his contemporaries.

8. Atlanta's Get Up Anthems with Killer Mike and London on the Track (32:28 - 38:18)

Mal and Damaris examine a curated list of top 10 Atlanta get-up anthems by Killer Mike and London on the Track. They critique the selections, advocating for classics like "Jump, Crisscross" and "Little John Get Low." Damaris praises the list's energy: "That's gonna shake the rooms for sure" (33:26), while Mal expresses nostalgia for tracks like "Never Scared" by Bone Crusher (33:53).

9. Call-in Segment: Ghosting in Relationships (76:30 - 88:35)

Listeners call in to share their experiences with ghosting—both initiating and being the ghosted party. Caller 1 recounts an aggressive confrontation after being ghosted: “...if you call this phone again, I'ma shoot the out you” (68:21). The hosts discuss the emotional impact of ghosting, with Damaris emphasizing accountability: "I don't care. No offense, Tory Craig" (74:10). They explore healthy communication versus the hurtful nature of abrupt disappearances in relationships.

10. Final Thoughts and Holiday Weekend Wishes (88:17 - 89:19)

As the episode winds down, the hosts offer heartfelt advice and well-wishes for the upcoming Labor Day weekend. Damaris advises, "Have fun, but be safe" (88:32), while Mal highlights the importance of responsible behavior: "Most importantly, no drinking and driving" (88:35). The group reflects on the day's topics, reinforcing themes of friendship, personal growth, and community safety.

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Notable Quotes

• Mal on Podcast Beginnings: "That's how you start podcasts." (00:56)

• Damaris on 90s Action Heroes: "Steven Seagal was the best ever." (02:12)

• Mal on Meek Mill's Legacy: "But to say Meek wasn't at least in the conversation of the big three... is a little offensive." (26:10)

• Damaris Defending Meek Mill: "No. Not on no day of the year. Future, he make better songs. He's a better artist." (29:58)

• Rory on Ghosting Impact: "I hate ghosting. Please." (77:00)

• Damaris on Healthy Breakups: "We gotta do that, though. That's how you heal." (84:05)

• Mal on Responsible Fun: "Most importantly, no drinking and driving." (88:35)

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Conclusion

Episode 298 of New Rory & MAL is a dynamic blend of nostalgic reflections, pop culture critiques, and candid discussions on personal experiences. From reminiscing about karate class and 90s action movies to dissecting the complexities of modern relationships and the state of the rap industry, the hosts engage listeners with humor, passion, and insightful commentary. The inclusion of listener call-ins enriches the conversation, offering diverse perspectives on contemporary issues like ghosting. As the hosts wrap up, their emphasis on safety and personal well-being leaves listeners with meaningful takeaways for the holiday season.

Transcript

[Rory]

No worry and now tell me why you crying how can it be you when you gave me something I don't leave you but you knew that already When I found you wanna crown you were dying now you come into my aunt uninvited can you see me on the edge? I'm enlightened if they want one standing Would you cry or would you try to get me? Tell me now about what you do declare yeah, tell me now I need you to be clear I will wait for you for you I will wait for you I will wait for you.

[Mal]

That'S how you start podcasts.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And we're back, yo. Waiting to start. Like.

[Damaris]

Like, what am I starting with?

[Mal]

Did you ever do karate class as a kid?

[Rory]

Of course.

[Damaris]

That was just after school program.

[Mal]

Yeah. How many, like, belts did you make it? I think I made it. Whatever. The second one is, which I think you get just after like a week.

[Damaris]

I think I was like green or yellow or something like that.

[Mal]

No belt. And then maybe yellow.

[Julian]

I think it was white. It's white belt to start. And then it goes yellow. Oh, no. White, orange, blue, yellow.

[Mal]

That must be new.

[Julian]

Green, brown, black.

[Damaris]

Yeah, they.

[Mal]

They rearranged the color wheel.

[Damaris]

Yellow.

[Julian]

You know, they're just building out a certain flag now because there's.

[Mal]

I had a yellow and there's no way I made it to the fourth belt.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was like, yellow, green. They just. Just changed the color on the end of the belt. That's all it is.

[Julian]

Take a Sharpie, too.

[Mal]

Was it something maybe you would want to, like, pursue again?

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

That black belt.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

We could do it as a team.

[Damaris]

Never again.

[Mal]

Are you scared to use karate powers?

[Damaris]

Are the dojo still around? I haven't seen one in a while.

[Mal]

Probably.

[Julian]

I've seen a few.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I haven't seen the dojo, like, but.

[Julian]

I'm like, in Chinatown mostly in the.

[Damaris]

90S, like in the early 90s, them shits was like every. Them was like, well, like corner stores.

[Mal]

Bruce Lee movies were going crazy. It was like a thing.

[Damaris]

The 90s had, like a lot of action movies. Van Damme.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Steven Seagal. Every kid wanted to be Steven Seagal.

[Mal]

Because he was the perfect example of karate.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Steven Seagal. Oh, he was the best ever.

[Julian]

Karate Kid.

[Damaris]

That used to be a real like. Like debate. Steven Seagal. Van Damme.

[Mal]

Van Damme won. How those Steven Seagal movies went off the rails after a while. Like some of his act like he did his own stunts. You could tell after a while.

[Damaris]

Under Siege is a classic.

[Mal]

I'LL give you that.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's a classic movie, but he.

[Mal]

Has about 80 other of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life.

[Damaris]

Mark for Death is a classic.

[Mal]

It's a good movie. A classic.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I guess that's a classic.

[Mal]

There's a dojo on Houston that I walk by. We could all go over.

[Damaris]

Hell, yes. That's probably the real deal. Yeah, you probably going in and sit with who Bruce Lee trained with, but.

[Mal]

You probably be scared to use your powers in the street. And, like, you know, you don't want to do that. You want to use yours for good, not evil.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I just want to fight crime at night like Daredevil.

[Mal]

Imagine someone just, like, busting out real karate at the club. Like, when the fight breaks out.

[Damaris]

That ain't gonna go good for him.

[Mal]

Like, they really split the table with the bottles in half, just as, like, intimidation.

[Damaris]

And we're back from a.

[Mal]

It's good to see you guys.

[Damaris]

A good road trip. Is it in Detroit? Chicago. Thanks for everybody that came out. Once again, had a great time.

[Mal]

Look at this fake shit. Because you're supposed to do the fake shit on Mike.

[Rory]

How? You said, it's good to see us. I said, is it really good to see us? Are you really happy to see us?

[Mal]

You were so happy to see me coming out of the elevator. Like, did you.

[Rory]

Why don't you send a man a long paragraph? He responds to the last sentence. I said, are you really happy to see us? Not if I'm happy.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm happy to see you guys.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Julian.

[Julian]

Hey, what's up?

[Mal]

How are you guys?

[Julian]

I went to the Hamptons, so I was. I was. I was having a real good time.

[Damaris]

You had a good time in the Hamptons?

[Julian]

I mean, it would have been nice to be in Chicago. I have a lot of friends.

[Damaris]

I was walking around Chicago. I was throwing your name around. It wasn't really ringing or shaking. No, no blocks up. I was like, y'all know Julian. They was like, who?

[Julian]

I was like, well, because you were hanging out. Where were you? Like, West Loop River, North West Loop? Yeah, I was outside. I'm on 63rd in Michigan, bro.

[Damaris]

Are you. Wasn't like, he was with the.

[Julian]

Yeah, I was in Englewood. I'm not.

[Rory]

You didn't let the GDS in it, though.

[Julian]

Not hanging out in the.

[Mal]

79. 79. 79.

[Damaris]

He was. What did you just.

[Mal]

You just said. I have no idea what it means. 79, 70. I don't. I don't know where 79 is. It sounds good on a record, though.

[Damaris]

Had a good time in Chicago. Chicago was a lot of fun, man. I ain't gonna lie. I really enjoyed myself.

[Rory]

Yeah, you were in these streets. It's so nice that you go to all. Every time you go out of town. You just hop, skip, and jump the around, don't you?

[Damaris]

That's not true. See, that's how fast they lie. That's not true. That's the first time I went out in the city since we've been on the road. And Rory laughed at me the whole.

[Mal]

Time about it from the depths of my hotel.

[Damaris]

So now I'm not going out no more. Now just be back in my hotel. Except for London.

[Rory]

You went to North Carolina and went outside. Like, you really get.

[Damaris]

Oh, Charlotte. Yeah.

[Rory]

You get loose in New Charlotte?

[Damaris]

Charlotte. We was outside. Julian was with me in Charlotte.

[Julian]

Yep.

[Damaris]

See?

[Mal]

Went crazy. Yeah.

[Rory]

I was at home in New Jersey with my feet up on the couch, like, damn, this would be nice. Like, being a housewife would be, like, nice.

[Julian]

You guys ever go body surfing?

[Mal]

I've tried, like, when I was in body surfing. Yeah, definitely.

[Julian]

It's like you. The waves come in through the. The shoreline, and you swim, like, with the wave, and then at a certain point, you extend your body and like a surfboard, it carries you to shore. I did it for the first time when I was out. Out east, and it was awesome.

[Mal]

It's like boogie boarding without the boogie board. Yeah, I've tried it.

[Damaris]

It's.

[Mal]

It's fun.

[Julian]

So if you. Humpback whales.

[Mal]

Really?

[Julian]

Yeah, they were close. 30ft from the shore, breaching. It looked like the. The Pacific Life logo.

[Rory]

Real.

[Mal]

I'm jealous.

[Julian]

Looked like this.

[Damaris]

How do you know what the Pacific Life.

[Julian]

Because I only think of it because of the humpback whale. That's exactly what it is. It looked like that it. There was like three of them, like, 30ft from the shore.

[Damaris]

You didn't take no video?

[Julian]

No, we were in the water when it happened, so it was like. And we were like, is anyone gonna run back and get their phone? It's like, let's just enjoy this. It was. It was really cool.

[Mal]

That's. I'm jealous.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You were 30ft from a humpback wheel.

[Julian]

It was like 30. 30 to 50 at most. They were very close to, like, break. And it ended up bringing a lot of people.

[Mal]

Kia for my birthday last year, got me a whale watching, like, certificate. But we had to drive up to Maine, and I had to do it in a certain amount of time, and I Just never.

[Damaris]

What is a whale watching certificate?

[Mal]

Like, she bought tickets to, like, go whale watching tickets or certificate? I don't know. It was like a. Here's a good pass to go whale watching. Or this time.

[Damaris]

Because I thought you had to have.

[Mal]

No, it wasn't like my yellow belt.

[Damaris]

I thought you had to take a test and like.

[Mal]

And you know, like.

[Damaris]

All right, you can go see a whale now. Yeah. What, I gotta take a test?

[Mal]

No, she got. She got tickets.

[Damaris]

Okay. All right.

[Mal]

That I could use in a certain amount of time, but I didn't have time.

[Damaris]

You let them expire.

[Mal]

Yeah, I didn't have time to just drive up to Maine, make time.

[Damaris]

That's your problem now. True.

[Mal]

Sold my soul to this game.

[Damaris]

So you need deep.

[Mal]

Can never see the whales. I guess I have to go to Hamptons now.

[Julian]

I was going to ask you guys because it reminded me I haven't touched the ocean water in a very long time. When's the last time you guys touched the ocean?

[Damaris]

It's been. It's been a while.

[Julian]

Before this trip, it was 2022 for me.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Julian]

I always go. Every time I go to la, I never go to the water.

[Mal]

Probably March in Miami. So it's been a few months.

[Rory]

Yeah. March in Turks.

[Damaris]

When I went to Sunny Isles in May, me and Biggs walked the beach, but I didn't. I didn't touch the water.

[Mal]

That's a cute, like, doesn't counterly bonding thing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, just walk the beach.

[Julian]

He butt ass with the chain on.

[Damaris]

That's hilarious. No. Thank God.

[Mal]

Going to nude beach with your brother.

[Damaris]

Yo, that's.

[Rory]

That's like walk around with his chains. I've never seen Biggs with a chain.

[Damaris]

He don't wear jewelry no more. Yeah, you said that's corny.

[Mal]

The they make hot and then call us corny for doing that. They made hot because there's so much.

[Damaris]

Fake jewelry that looks real now.

[Mal]

I mean, Tyrese.

[Damaris]

So let us know. Why would I. Why would you even wear Jury if somebody gonna be standing next to you with fake. And it looked just like yours. Yeah.

[Mal]

And I wasn't mad at Tyrese doing that on the Breakfast Club. Like, people aren't going to assume Tyrese has fake jewelry on.

[Julian]

So that's what I think is the more important thing is the assumption of the person wearing the product.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like my friend.

[Damaris]

Yeah. If somebody knows you have. Are successful and have money, they assume that what you're wearing is real. So at that point, you could. But my thing is paying real money for fake jewelry is just crazy to me. Like, I get the thing behind it where it's like, yo, like, Tyrese said he left, like, real jewelry in a hotel a couple times worth, like, $200,000, and he got tired of doing that. I get that. But I would just not wear jewelry. Shoes before I buy fake jewelry. I would just not wear jewelry no more.

[Rory]

It's the same how I feel that way about when people buy, like, fake bags and, like, shoes. That's.

[Damaris]

You paid real money for fake. That's why, like, when we was at X, we was looking at sneakers, and I'm like, people be paying real money for, like, fake products, but you can't.

[Mal]

Really tell the difference. But I think those Yeezys that we looked at would probably run you, like, what, 40 bucks? 50 bucks?

[Damaris]

No, you're gonna pay. You're gonna pay real retail for them.

[Mal]

The fake. The real fake. They don't.

[Damaris]

They don't market them as fake.

[Mal]

Oh, okay. Got you. Oh, yeah. That's nuts.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But you can't be mad at the consumer. They don't really know how much those bags go for.

[Julian]

On Canal street, if you were to go down there and get a.

[Rory]

Probably like, 50. 40. 50.

[Mal]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Rory]

I bought a Dolce and Gabbana belt for, like, $50. When I was a kid from down.

[Damaris]

There supporting the community.

[Rory]

I was, like, 11, and the Dolce and Gabbara's logo is my initials, so I thought it would be cool. I didn't know it was a fake Dolce and Gabbana belt. I thought it was just about. I was young.

[Mal]

Did you ever. Do you ever buy the DVDs that were fake on can and it was somebody recording at the movie theater?

[Rory]

Not on Canal. But I've had. Definitely had bootlegs that were.

[Mal]

Yeah, I bought a bootleg season one Chappelle show, and it was somebody filming their TV with a real dvd. I'm sure I still have it.

[Damaris]

Classic.

[Mal]

I'm sure I could find it somewhere.

[Julian]

Still great content.

[Mal]

Yeah, no, I've watched it. Like, I wasn't going to watch it.

[Damaris]

The bootleg game is insane. Yo.

[Mal]

I buy CDs all the time down there.

[Rory]

My parents bought the bootleg of Dream Girls, and, like, when Jennifer Hudson did the. And I'm not telling you, the whole, like, theater stood up and, like, was cheering, like, on the bootleg.

[Damaris]

That's wild.

[Mal]

That was common, though. Like, you kind of knew. Especially when it was movies that were still in theaters and they weren't out yet. And you were like, oh, how they got this? And it's like, yeah, they went to the movie theater today and then just pressed it onto a dvd.

[Damaris]

The streaming game changed all that though, because you can get a link for like a official link, like the day the movie comes out. You can get a real link.

[Mal]

Yeah. Even those like torrent websites.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

In the early 2010s, you could see anything. It would just your computer up.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Now it's just easy to find anything.

[Julian]

This is my go to site for all those.

[Mal]

See, now you're gonna get them popped.

[Julian]

Nah, they're straight. Just don't show them on the screen.

[Rory]

Oh, everybody goes to movies.

[Julian]

Yeah. Bleep.

[Damaris]

Damaris almost gave up the plug. Like, still don't do that, baby.

[Mal]

One of those sites like last week.

[Julian]

Get taken down and then they stream east.

[Mal]

Then they tweet like next week.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Back next week is.

[Julian]

So that's where I'd get all my, my Knicks games. They're. They're the best site ever. I love this site. They've games forever.

[Damaris]

So football season is back, which means NBA season is almost back.

[Mal]

Are you excited?

[Damaris]

I'm excited, man. I'm excited for the change into like fall. Like, I like the little, you know, I'm a fall guy.

[Julian]

What do you think about this? Speaking of NBA, there's a show Netflix is doing. It looks like a docu series called Starting Five where they're going to follow five NBA players. It's Jimmy Butler, Anthony Edwards, LeBron, Demonte Sabonis and Jayson Tatum during this upcoming season.

[Mal]

They're just reinventing the wheel. I think it'll be fun.

[Damaris]

This. No, this says the 2324 season. So they followed them last year.

[Julian]

Pardon me, Last year.

[Mal]

Same thing that they do with Hard.

[Damaris]

Knocks with sprinter receiver since Tatum won. Yeah. So that's going to be interesting to see. To see that again.

[Mal]

Reinventing the wheel.

[Damaris]

I'm going to watch Follow Lebron this year with. I'm excited to finally get a chance to see Bronnie and Braun hit the floor together. I was watching Bron did an interview when they were in Paris. Well, he did an episode of. I think it was the Shop probably, or he was. He did some interview when they were in Paris for Olympics and they asked him if. If Bronny's allowed to call him Dad.

[Mal]

I saw that.

[Damaris]

That was, that was funny to watch that.

[Mal]

His response was hilarious. He can call me Bron or the goat. You can't be running down the court saying, dad, pass me the ball.

[Rory]

Yeah, that's crazy, dad.

[Julian]

Get your ass back on defense.

[Mal]

But telling somebody to call me the goat unless you're kid, that's hilarious. You can call me the goat.

[Damaris]

This is like. Like, we, years ago, we had spoke about this, and I said that, you know, I think that this might have been about six years ago now. And I said, LeBron is probably just waiting until Bronny, you know, finally gets to the NBA before he retires. And now that it's here, now that we get a chance to see it, it is exciting, man. Like, there's such a. Like, a legendary moment. We've never seen this in the NBA. And especially the fact that, you know, this is. It's not like LeBron is the last guy on the bench and his son is coming into the league. Like, LeBron is still very effective, still one of the best players in the league. So to get a chance to see this, this season is. It's exciting, man.

[Mal]

As the captain of the team and as his dad, you think he'll allow Bronnie to do press?

[Damaris]

Oh, he has to do press.

[Mal]

Extra press. Not just the post game conference shit. Also, if you don't really play like that, why would you even do the post game conference? Those guys don't talk.

[Damaris]

Well, no, it's just the fact that this is the story. It's the headline. Everybody knows what everybody wants to see this year, what everybody will be going to crypto to see. They want to see LeBron and Bronny on the floor at the same time. I don't know how many of those moments we'll get, but I'm rooting for Bronny, man. I'm hoping he turns out to be a good pro. I'm hoping he gets a lot of playing time eventually. It's going to be rough the first few months, him getting adjusted to the NBA game, but who I do want to see it eventually happen, where we see them on the floor.

[Mal]

Who do you think will do more podcasts this year? Bronnie or Tory Craig?

[Damaris]

Well, Tory Craig is never.

[Mal]

Who will get more minutes?

[Damaris]

Oh, Tory Craig for sure.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Tory Craig will get more minutes this year for sure.

[Mal]

You think I'll do the Shade Room podcast?

[Damaris]

I hope not. I hope not. I've never seen Tory Craig on a podcast. I don't want to see him on one now. But in comparison to Bronnie, he definitely will get more playing time than Bronnie.

[Mal]

Are you happy about his love life?

[Julian]

It's a sick question.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Like, I don't. I don't know how to answer that.

[Julian]

I'm a Tory Craig about Tory Craig's love life.

[Mal]

I'm a Tory Craig fan. Okay, well, why, did something happen?

[Damaris]

No, I don't. I don't know what happened.

[Mal]

I mean, it's been. Been one of my favorite players forever.

[Rory]

Word?

[Damaris]

Yeah. What team he played for?

[Mal]

He plays for the Bulls.

[Julian]

I just had it on the screen.

[Mal]

He went to Wyoming.

[Julian]

Did he go to Wyoming? That's a good job. Rory, you read that he went to South Carolina Upstate. What?

[Mal]

Everyone knows South Carolina up.

[Damaris]

Yeah, everybody.

[Julian]

South Carolina have an upstate.

[Mal]

They got a campus up there.

[Damaris]

Of course.

[Mal]

Saratoga Springs.

[Damaris]

Tory Craig went there.

[Julian]

Six years in the league, he's averaging just shy of six points. He's averaging 20 minutes a game last year. The reason why we brought him up is because he's.

[Damaris]

No matter what he averages, allegedly, he is dating.

[Julian]

He's dating.

[Rory]

Okay. He's dating?

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

You care about him dating Megan. I don't point at me.

[Julian]

I don't give a. I think he's.

[Mal]

A good role player. I'm here to talk about basketball. I don't know what you guys. He's dating somebody.

[Rory]

That's the only reason why. You know. You know what? I ain't even gonna violate.

[Damaris]

We ain't talking about Tory Craig ever in life. And now Rory talking about. Oh, he's dating somebody. We ain't never.

[Mal]

I don't even know Craig.

[Damaris]

We've never talked about Tory Craig.

[Rory]

He's a nice looking man. He's allegedly dating the Megan the stallion.

[Julian]

Sucking on her finger.

[Mal]

Why do people care this much about this?

[Julian]

Because they care about who she's. That's why. I don't care. No offense, toy Craig.

[Damaris]

I don't care. I don't. When did this happen? Because I swear, years ago. Nobody ever cared who was sleeping with who.

[Rory]

That's a lie. That's never been a thing.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

That's never been a thing.

[Damaris]

I never knew who Jordan was. Never.

[Rory]

Because he was married. Stink.

[Damaris]

Oh, you think that's the only one he was?

[Rory]

No.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Rory]

Why would he advertise?

[Mal]

There was no Instagram and women had couth. They held it down.

[Damaris]

There you go. Yeah, see?

[Rory]

But people always cared who actors were dating. Actors dating.

[Mal]

Johnson was.

[Damaris]

Itching. Why you keep. Why you gotta itch? Why you keep scratching?

[Julian]

I'm so glad someone else. There's no way I'm saying what I want to say.

[Damaris]

Oh, man.

[Mal]

All right, but don't do that.

[Damaris]

What you mean, don't do that?

[Mal]

There was a time before this when people cared who other people were, there was always gossip columns. They were just on tv.

[Julian]

Sorry.

[Damaris]

There was gossip magazines, national choir. That was the only people that cared about people that read the National Enquirer. And I always feel like those people were weird on the checkout.

[Rory]

Oh, no, no.

[Damaris]

What?

[Rory]

It's always been a thing who celebrities were.

[Mal]

Yeah, it was.

[Rory]

It's always been a thing.

[Damaris]

No, it has not.

[Rory]

Especially if they were another celebrity.

[Damaris]

The only time people even knew who a celebrity was. If you see them, like on the red carpet with them, that's not.

[Mal]

Also, you don't think Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston was. Wasn't headline news when they popped out.

[Damaris]

On the red carpet together before that happened. And nobody was asking, yo, who's Brad Pitt? Nobody.

[Mal]

This is Meg and the other Tories. Brad and Angelina pop out. This is their red carpet.

[Julian]

Keep it Tory with it.

[Damaris]

That's what I'm saying. They're in the. That's what I'm saying. That's the difference.

[Mal]

But this is a pop out now in 2024, as compared to the late 90s, early 2000s.

[Rory]

Getting caught coming out of a LA restaurant by the paparazzi.

[Mal]

That was the thing.

[Julian]

Rory and B.

[Damaris]

But what I'm saying is nobody cared.

[Mal]

True.

[Damaris]

Is what I'm saying.

[Rory]

Yes, they did sold off the shelf.

[Julian]

Those photos would be the COVID of those magazines.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And they were worth millions of dollars. Like, that's why paparazzi.

[Damaris]

Once we saw them together. I'm saying before you saw with whoever they were dating, nobody was asking, who is this celebrity?

[Rory]

Okay. But nobody is asking, who is Meg? She popped out with the person she's dealing with.

[Damaris]

No, people. People been asking who Meg is with ever since she broke up with Party. They was trying to figure out who was the new guy she was with for sure. Absolutely. That was a thing.

[Mal]

But they've always done that.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Remember she was at some, like, charity event and they were like, just some guy that happened to be standing next to her. They were like, oh, it's the new guy.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

How could she do this? To party at a charity event.

[Damaris]

But that's what I'm saying now. It's like people care more than they've ever cared before.

[Rory]

Like, I think people have more accident.

[Mal]

I'll give you that. Yes. People care more than they've ever cared. But to say that nobody cared before is crazy. But I mean, I'm more power to them. I think it's great.

[Damaris]

Yeah. And she's happy to have fun and they enjoy their Their time together, you know, and it's. It's not a toxic situation.

[Mal]

Yeah, I'm happy.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And as a Tory Craig fan, like, you know, I think it's great. Two of my world's colliding.

[Damaris]

Okay. Tory Craig is a part of your world. That's what's up.

[Mal]

I'm a fan. I'm also a fan of Meg.

[Damaris]

Meg looks great. What was Broccoli. Broccoli City. Yeah. Yeah, she looks great, man.

[Mal]

She looked real good there.

[Damaris]

Yeah, she looks great.

[Mal]

In other news, in podcasting news, Yo, Mandy's, like, two for two.

[Rory]

Mandy about to buy NBC.

[Mal]

You think that's what it is?

[Rory]

Yeah, I think that's what it is.

[Julian]

Remember when that was a rumor with Cosby?

[Mal]

Was it a rumor?

[Rory]

Sale fell through.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

How much. How much is NBC? Can you buy NBC? Is there even enough money in the world?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

It depends on who you ask.

[Mal]

Like, if you were to liquidate NBC, what would that be worth?

[Julian]

It says the total higher than the industry. It's now probably well worth a hundred billion.

[Mal]

And who owns it?

[Rory]

It is. It's an Olympic year. So, you know, who could Cosby meet.

[Mal]

For lunch and cop NBC from them?

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like, how does that. How does that meeting go?

[Mal]

Like, I don't even think Lauren Michaels knows who owns NBC. That's how high up I think it goes. But we'll save that for later because Mandy's trying to buy it and on her way with her. Controversial.

[Julian]

There's one way to get there.

[Mal]

I've enjoyed Mandy stirring up the podcast world.

[Rory]

I have.

[Mal]

Salute to Mandy.

[Rory]

I like it. We needed. We needed something. It was.

[Mal]

I don't know if this one over here was intentional, but somehow, what is it with Meek? That just ruffles feathers, because we talk about Meek a lot, too. So I'd be a hypocrite to say that we're not also the people that can't wait to talk about Meek. She said she couldn't name what five Meek Mill songs. She.

[Rory]

Yeah, she asked. Well, she asked the room. Can y'all name five Meek Mill songs?

[Mal]

The need to Know podcast shout out to them.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

Which is crazy to me. Y'all can't name five Meek songs.

[Rory]

Well, can y'all name five Meek songs?

[Damaris]

Easy.

[Rory]

One, two, three. We'll do Mall. Have them all do it.

[Julian]

One, two, three.

[Rory]

Cause Mall sucks at naming songs. Mal Go.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I'm terrible at titles, but 24 7.

[Mal]

Great record.

[Damaris]

Dreams and Nightmares.

[Mal]

Classic record.

[Damaris]

Uptown Vibes. What was the one with him and Drake Church?

[Mal]

Something Going bad.

[Damaris]

Going bad.

[Mal]

There's Amen as well.

[Damaris]

Oh, Amen.

[Julian]

And going back to all the Drake.

[Damaris]

Features, I mean, it's a. It's a song I named Five.

[Julian]

What's the one that led to the beef? Rico.

[Mal]

Okay, so you guys are naming Drake and Meek?

[Damaris]

Yep.

[Julian]

A house party.

[Mal]

This is crazy. Y'all can't name five Meek songs.

[Julian]

That was it. We named, like, seven.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

What else?

[Mal]

Now I understand why Meek gets so upset on the Internet.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because y'all are really playing with his name. And people, like, forget Meek's legacy. I love and who Meek Mill is.

[Julian]

But I haven't listened.

[Mal]

I've been critical of him a lot lately.

[Damaris]

I'm terrible.

[Mal]

But to erase who Meek was for the past.

[Damaris]

A race to.

[Mal]

You guys can't name five? Well, you guys did, but you name them.

[Damaris]

Like, what are you talking.

[Rory]

Name five songs that they didn't name.

[Mal]

Burn Championships.

[Julian]

Another feature record. It's Big Sean. I'm just saying. We're just naming feature records. Like, what's a Meek song?

[Mal]

Just championships.

[Julian]

Okay.

[Mal]

1942 Flow War, which I think he actually, like, fought back against Drake pretty well with.

[Julian]

That's a Drake record.

[Mal]

How is that a Drake record?

[Julian]

Wasn't that a diss record to Drake?

[Mal]

He said, like, four bars on it, and then it was a great song after that. Like, what. What are we talking?

[Damaris]

You had three, though. So you got two more.

[Mal]

You guys took away two of them.

[Damaris]

And you struggle.

[Mal]

I'm a boss. Classic.

[Rory]

Classic.

[Mal]

That's five.

[Damaris]

That's four.

[Julian]

That's four.

[Mal]

Oh, some Meek song. I love.

[Julian]

I love.

[Damaris]

You don't love Expensive Thing.

[Mal]

I don't like the album. I like song.

[Damaris]

Okay.

[Mal]

All right.

[Damaris]

You name five, we can name five.

[Julian]

Let me ask you five more.

[Rory]

Face down. Oodles and Noodles.

[Julian]

How does that work?

[Damaris]

Isn't Ham.

[Rory]

I'm sorry.

[Mal]

Jay Z and Kanye.

[Julian]

Jay Z and Kanye.

[Rory]

I'm like, why he threw me.

[Damaris]

Got a song called Going Ham.

[Rory]

Going.

[Mal]

Maybe.

[Rory]

I don't think so.

[Damaris]

No.

[Mal]

Come on, man. Championships. There's so many great records on here. And, like, mall. I can't just name songs like that. But to say we don't have them for Meek.

[Rory]

Oh, I can name a bunch of Meek songs, but I think we've made the point that Meek has a good discography. Like, he's not. Yeah, he's not. But there's. Anyway, long story short, you can name.

[Damaris]

Five Meek songs, man. That's. That's just. That's.

[Rory]

They tear Mandy ass.

[Damaris]

That's. That's But, I mean, I ain't mad at it, but you can name five Meek songs.

[Mal]

I'm not. I mean, whatever. Cool. If you can't name songs, that's whatever. But to say Meek wasn't at least in the conversation of the big three, the next big three, in the early 2010s, to me, is a little offensive. That's what you said, right? I want to misquote Mandy.

[Damaris]

Who was the next big three?

[Mal]

At that time, in the early 2010s, I think it was up for debate between Drake, Cole, Kendrick, obviously. Meek, Wale, Big Sean.

[Julian]

You name six names, we're talking the big Three as a no. Cole, Kendrick.

[Mal]

She was saying he wasn't in the conversation at that time of who the next big Three would be.

[Julian]

We shouldn't be.

[Mal]

Am I misquoting her?

[Julian]

Yeah, but I'm saying if the conversation is about the Big Three, you name six people. We named six people.

[Mal]

The three in the conversation of who would be the next Big Three.

[Rory]

But you keep saying the next. At the. At that time where Meek was big, all of them were all in the same.

[Mal]

Well, first of all, there wasn't a. The Big Three did not exist.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But at that time of who the next guys were going to be. To say Meek was not in that conversation.

[Rory]

But you're saying that to say Wale.

[Mal]

Isn'T in that conversation was crazy. Like. Yes. It wasn't just Cole, Kendrick.

[Damaris]

Whole big Three start.

[Rory]

We already had that conversation.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Okay. When did it start?

[Julian]

Seven years ago, when the Celtics years ago picked up. Never mind.

[Mal]

Yeah, yeah. Kevin Garnt, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce. Then the Miami Heat took it.

[Julian]

Honestly, that kind of mirrored the music. Yeah, like, era with the Big Three, too. Everything was getting numbered in threes.

[Mal]

But you guys don't think at that time, 2010, 2011, that Meek wouldn't be in that conversation of who the next guys. Next guys would be, and let's even say the next three. At that point on Twitter, people thought Cole. I mean, it proved to be clearly wrong when he went on tour. But they were saying Cole was trash at that time. They had Meek way higher than everyone.

[Rory]

Yeah, Meek was way higher ranked.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Wale was way higher than a lot than most people.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Mal]

Sean probably had more hits at that time.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Julian]

Oh, so sure.

[Mal]

To say that Meek wouldn't be in that combo. Coming off Dreams and Nightmares and what's the mixtape that Burn is on? Kendrick's on that. Drake's on that.

[Julian]

That mixtape did Dream Chasers, too.

[Mal]

Yeah, whatever. He posted that's a great response to great Andy. Like, at that time. Nah. Meek was it.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I'm a Boss is on that mixtape.

[Damaris]

She.

[Rory]

I think she said that Two Chains was higher up then who.

[Mal]

Chains was just starting his comeback at that time.

[Damaris]

2 chains was higher than who he.

[Mal]

Had True Religion and then the birthday cake shit around that time.

[Rory]

That. That Two Chains was better fitting for that conversation than Meek.

[Damaris]

That's disrespectful.

[Mal]

Nah, it was like, man, that's disrespectful. Quietly, I don't know fuck with Chains.

[Damaris]

But that's disrespectful, man.

[Mal]

I don't. The podcast world knows because I know a lot of people know her from horrible decisions. But Mandy is a music nerd like the rest of us. I take her music opinion very seriously. She has good taste and knowledge. To say Two Chains was over Meek.

[Damaris]

At that time, that's disrespectful.

[Mal]

Nah, that's just.

[Damaris]

That's just like, he had a lot of hype. Now we just saying whatever the fuck we want to say. Like, at some point, we got to, like, just relax and just, like, listen to what we're saying. Like, I get it. Chains had some records. That was bangers.

[Mal]

This was summer 2020.

[Rory]

Talking about talent, though.

[Julian]

This is dream. This is 2002.

[Rory]

Chains is more talented than Meek Mill.

[Damaris]

More talented, yes.

[Mal]

That's a. It's weird to even.

[Rory]

Is it weird?

[Damaris]

I get the question.

[Rory]

Like, a better rapper. Do you think that's who. Chains is a better rapper than Meek Mill?

[Damaris]

No. And Chains could rap, though, but I don't think he's a better rapper than Meek. He could rap, though.

[Mal]

Making songs or just rapping.

[Rory]

Just rapping.

[Damaris]

No, he don't rap better than me.

[Mal]

No, I don't think he. I actually think Chains is a really, really good rapper, but I don't think he's.

[Damaris]

Two Chains is a really good two Chain says some. What I had to look like. I didn't even know he could talk crazy like that. But he. He said some. That I was like, okay. Like, I was impressed. But he don't. He don't rap better than me, though. The thing that I, you know, like listening to everybody talking about Meek the last couple days, I don't. Why don't people talk more about Young Chris? Because I still think Young Chris is probably the best outside of Black. Thought to me, Young Chris might be the best rapper out of Philly.

[Mal]

I think. Cause Roc. A fella dissolved at the time Young Guns was starting their run, and he Just didn't get the support. So people just don't know.

[Damaris]

Like, Young Chris could. He could really rap.

[Mal]

People that know hip hop know, like, Young Chris's pen.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

We accused Jay Z of stealing from Young Chris. Like, that's how good.

[Damaris]

Like, he's. I'm talking about still not just.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

Today, Young Chris might be the best rapper out of Philly. We know Black Thought is an alien. We never talking about. Yeah, we never talking about. When I start talking about Philly rappers, like, I leave Black Thought, I just leave him in the house. We don't even want him to come outside.

[Mal]

But back to your Chains and Meek thing. I think Chains is actually an underrated rapper, but I think he focuses more on delivery and style than straight rapping. I think if that Static Selector 2 Chainz album ever comes out, it may be a different conversation, but I'd have to say Meek is a better rapper.

[Rory]

So Mandy made the Tweet. She said Wiz2Chainz, Future, and Yay all beat Meek Mill in that big three discussion, and it's not even close.

[Mal]

Wiz Khalifa we just saw in 2010, Wizard Carter.

[Damaris]

Come on, man. Wiz don't rap better than me.

[Mal]

Yeah. Why would you even count ye?

[Damaris]

I.

[Julian]

Would Kanye be in there. Yeah.

[Mal]

In that combo.

[Julian]

Kanye was a decade before them.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah. I don't know why.

[Damaris]

Where's Khalifa?

[Mal]

Maybe we have her point up.

[Rory]

Do y'all think Future is better than Meek Mill?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

A rapper.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Damaris]

No. No.

[Julian]

I do.

[Mal]

At making music. Yes.

[Damaris]

You don't think. You think Future raps better than Meek? If you put a beat on right now and these start rapping right here, you think Future is going to outrap Meek?

[Mal]

He's not.

[Damaris]

We watched me with matted braids on the corners of Philly, wrapped his way to a private jet. He don't. Future don't rap better than that.

[Julian]

Man loved Flamers. Meek. That was saying that.

[Rory]

You don't think Future raps better than Meek Mill?

[Damaris]

No. Not on no day of the year. Future, he make better songs. He's a better artist.

[Mal]

I also don't think Future tries to rap better than me.

[Damaris]

I just think he makes y'all getting disrespectful. See, now I know why me gonna slap the out of some of y'all. I understand why he's so mad that she going back to jail. I'm gonna just say it's getting ready to catch. He catching the charge because y'all is getting disrespectful coming into the holidays.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

All right. Coming into that. Let me. Let me.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Y'all is getting disrespectful, man.

[Julian]

I thought. I thought Labor Day is just.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Like, me gonna slap the. Out of somebody. That's a Labor Day weekend, I'm telling you.

[Julian]

I thought we were talking overall. If it's overall, I'm taking future.

[Rory]

Overall, NBA live 2K as an artist.

[Damaris]

Future's a better artist to me. I don't think that's a. We don't have to talk. We said rapper rap.

[Rory]

Just rap.

[Julian]

Yeah. Then, yeah.

[Damaris]

Future ain't rapping better than no fucking Meek Mill, man.

[Julian]

The weird question gives a better rapper.

[Rory]

The south no shoot y'all. Do y'all got shows in Atlanta? They gonna shoot y'all.

[Damaris]

No, we love. No, no, no. I don't give a fuck what nobody in Atlanta saying. Nobody gonna tell me that Future raps better than Meek Mill. We not. Come on. Let's not. Let's keep it in perspective here. Better artists. Not even close. Rap niggas Ain't a lot of niggas don't rap better than Meek. Like, I get it. Niggas don't. Meek. His tweets pissing people off. I get it. We talking about just rapping. A lot of n Don't rap better than Meek.

[Mal]

But a lot of people would say some of his content and flows are redundant. But I also think that if a bunch of rappers that we revere and think are amazing.

[Damaris]

Kiss has had the same flow for 30 and something.

[Mal]

He's mixed up.

[Damaris]

He said, don't do that, Jada. Kiss has had the same flow for 30 years. And I watched that catch a triple homicide on Versus that night. He caught a triple homicide.

[Mal]

I didn't get sick of that flow once.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, the same flow. And he caught three bodies. Like, so we'd understand. Like, no, but we talking about just rapping. Just bars. Like, nah. N. Gotta give Meek his credit. Like, Meek can. When it comes to just putting bars together. You might not like his songs. You might think his content is, you know, the same shit over and over. He gonna tell you Miami and Drop Top and every record we got that.

[Mal]

It'S for motivation, but.

[Rory]

And his rolling.

[Damaris]

But he still rap better than a lot of you niggas. Like, let's keep things into perspective.

[Rory]

That makes me happy to hear. Cause whenever we having these Meek conversations, I be over here on this hill, like, dying for Meek by myself. So hearing y'all, you know, I admittedly.

[Mal]

Have critiqued Meek for the past few years, but that does not erase who Meek Mill and what his legacy is in rap history.

[Damaris]

Yeah, we just talk about Meek is.

[Mal]

Still one of them.

[Damaris]

Don't. Yeah, like, we gotta. That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

I separate the Twitter from the artist.

[Damaris]

Yeah, separate. Separate the tweets from the artist.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

[Damaris]

Separate the tweets from the artist. Meek can still rap. He raps better than like Wiz. Who else? They said Wiz.

[Rory]

So she said in her. In her tweet. Poor Mani. In her tweet, she said wiz2 chains future. Yay.

[Mal]

But I think, all right, maybe we misunderstood the next big three. She was trying to say because Yay wouldn't even be in that con. Future whiz. I think are should definitely be brought up in the convo.

[Rory]

But Yay was Yay at that time. At that time when Meek was big.

[Julian]

Yeah. My beautiful Dark Twisted fantasy was out.

[Mal]

In 2010 and like, he was leaving the two chains G friend era entire rollout. Speaking of Atlanta, Killer Mike and Leon track put together a top 10 get up the legends. They are killer mike top 10 get up anthems, specifically from Atlanta. Obviously London on the track and Killer Mike are legends in Atlanta. So we're going to listen to them when it comes to get up Anthems.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I saw that they partnered with billboard and 300 and tequila.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Damaris]

On this top 10 get up anthem list.

[Mal]

You know, me and my Tequila, some.

[Damaris]

Interesting songs because you might have to get up off the floor after some of these songs played. So I like what Killer Mike and London on the track did with this Get Up Anthem list.

[Rory]

Do you like it, though?

[Damaris]

I mean, it's some. It's some. It's some club shade. It's some. Some songs in that's gonna shake the rooms for sure.

[Mal]

Well, you know what I love? As you know, up north, we love to critique Atlanta about themselves. Like we know what's going on.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Let's start at number 10. Never scared. Bone Crusher TI Killer Mike.

[Damaris]

I mean, somebody gotta get up after this. Come on.

[Mal]

Is that insider trading? Even though I think it deserves to be on the list.

[Rory]

Well, I think that's why they put themselves at that. Why he put himself at 10.

[Mal]

Killer Mike seems like a very humble dude.

[Damaris]

He was being humble right there.

[Mal]

Never said deserves to, though.

[Damaris]

Never scared. Could be higher than number 10.

[Mal]

I see Gucci Man, Young Jeezy and Boo. I mean, deserves to be there.

[Damaris]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

It caused some ruckus in the area.

[Damaris]

Get up.

[Mal]

But.

[Damaris]

Get up.

[Mal]

Damn. Young Bloods Little John Lifestyle, Rich Gang, Young Thug and Rich Homie Quan.

[Julian]

Julian, that's my song. I'm not going to say it.

[Rory]

I don't think it deserves to be there. But we talk about that later.

[Damaris]

What lifestyle?

[Mal]

Let's. Let's just get through the list, then we can debate. Whoa Shoulder Lean Chateen Young DRO Ti no more play in ga. Pastor Troy Classic Knuck if you buck. Crime Mom a little scrappy Get Up Cell Therapy Goody Mom Classic March Madness Future now.

[Damaris]

Now, that may have been number one.

[Mal]

So they have tied for number one. Rubber Band Man TI And Players Bowl Outcast.

[Rory]

Number four is number one. I'm sorry, I don't know whether that's just a.

[Damaris]

Over March Madness.

[Rory]

Yes. I don't know whether that's just a thing. Number four is number one.

[Damaris]

But we. March Madness might be the greatest song ever. Like, what are you talking about?

[Rory]

People are not turning up more to March Madness than they are to knuck if you buck.

[Damaris]

All right.

[Mal]

Women are definitely turning up more to knuck if you buck than March Madness. For sure. At the party.

[Julian]

March Madness.

[Mal]

But we're also viewing this not from Atlanta.

[Rory]

We're talking about what's the more turn.

[Mal]

Up song like, these records could have went crazier in Atlanta. I'll go back to the Jeezy and Gucci versus battle, when everyone from Atlanta, like, Gucci is going to kill Jeezy and I'm like, from up north. Jeezy smokes Gucci because we got more of the hits. That's where I think we may have this fucked up, but doesn't mean we can't critique it and say, this is. This is bullshit.

[Damaris]

Because.

[Mal]

Because where the fuck is Shorty Low? They know.

[Rory]

Thank you. Where? No, we're. No. You know what? I don't like the millennial erasure, because where is Soulja Boy?

[Mal]

Is he from Atlanta?

[Rory]

Yes. Yes.

[Mal]

I thought he was from Compton.

[Rory]

You did not think Soulja Boy was from.

[Mal]

He told me and Floyd Mayweather he was from Compton.

[Julian]

He's from everywhere. I mean, he was born in Chicago.

[Rory]

Wait, Soulja Boy was.

[Mal]

And then he went to Mississippi. Then he went to Atlanta.

[Julian]

I don't know how old he was when he came to Atlanta, but when.

[Rory]

I think of Soulja Boy, I think of Atlanta.

[Mal]

I want no smoke. Soulja Boy could say, okay, so let's go out.

[Rory]

Let's leave soldier.

[Mal]

But to the millennial bad. And Bougie isn't on this list.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Julian]

Are the Migos not on here at all?

[Mal]

No.

[Julian]

Interesting.

[Mal]

I'm gonna go to. To my era since I'm 34. When I was in high school, Lean with it, Rock with it was huge. I don't know if it went crazy in Atlanta the way it did up.

[Rory]

North, but especially the remix. Lean with a rock with a remix.

[Mal]

Even into Walk It Out, I don't know what Walk it out would replace here. I just feel like that era didn't really get love like that.

[Damaris]

The Snap era.

[Mal]

Yeah, that was a staple that kind of helped bring back Atlanta to the dominance that it has now. Like, you can make fun of that Snap era, but it really helped Atlanta.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but this is a different type of list, though. This is like. The energy is a little different from Snap. This is more, you know. Yeah, this is more aggressive, like timeless. Yeah.

[Mal]

This is not if you had to be there type.

[Damaris]

Yeah, this is. This is those type of records. So.

[Rory]

Because I'm sorry. Because Waka was born in Queens.

[Mal]

Native.

[Rory]

Because he was born in Queen. Waka is Atlanta, bro. Y'all, Hard in the Paint ain't out here. Hard in the paint replaces Lifestyle, bro.

[Julian]

Why are we shitting on Lifestyle?

[Rory]

Come on, bro. Y'all not fucking doing this. Y'all not doing this, bro.

[Mal]

Lifestyle, I think, deserves to be on there. That represents a whole era.

[Damaris]

Definitely deserves.

[Rory]

Y'all telling me that Lifestyle is a bigger turn up song. Not turn up song than Hard in the Paint. Come on.

[Mal]

For a whole generation of Atlanta. Yeah, probably Lifestyle does more than harden the paint. I would go with harden the paint, but I'm older.

[Damaris]

And what the hell do we know? This is curated by Killer Mike and London on the track.

[Mal]

Killer Mike, you know nothing about Atlanta.

[Damaris]

And neither does London.

[Julian]

His name is London.

[Mal]

One of Mall's favorite records, I thought would be on here. Jump Crisscross.

[Damaris]

Classic.

[Mal]

If we're doing Atlanta in totality, I.

[Damaris]

Don'T want to hear anybody.

[Mal]

Is that not a get up record?

[Damaris]

Classic Jump by Chris Cross. Classic.

[Mal]

This wouldn't make the list, but I think Southern hospitality could make a top 15.

[Damaris]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

Little John Get Low, I think could be number 11 on this list.

[Rory]

What about Salt Shaker?

[Julian]

What about.

[Mal]

It's welcome to Atlanta.

[Julian]

It's going down.

[Mal]

Young Jock.

[Julian]

Young Jock's not on here.

[Mal]

That was a big record until Tom Cruise went on that. That Oprah couch and started doing the dance.

[Rory]

That coke.

[Mal]

Now I see why Killer Mike left it off.

[Julian]

That was gross.

[Damaris]

Well, shout out to Killer Mike and London on the track as long as well as Billboard and Tres Generations. Tequila on their top 10 get up anthems.

[Mal]

We can stay in Atlanta. Unfortunate news. Well, wasn't in Atlanta, but Atlanta artists. Lil Baby was arrested in Vegas for a gun in his nuts. According to the headline, during the arrest, he said, yo, check me. I'm good. You watched this footage? I didn't watch this footage that TMZ has.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I saw this footage. It was funny because while he was getting arrested, obviously they found the gun at the time, if he was already in handcuffs. But then he was telling a security guard, I guess, that was in the vicinity, like, hey, call this number for me. Like, I just want you to call this number, which is, I'm guessing, probably his lawyer or something like that. He said, I'll give you two. First he said, 20,000. And then he said, I'll give you 200,000 a year to just dial. That's how you know Lil Baby was lit. Drunk as a motherfucker. He just yelling out anything. At 200 grand a year, just a dollar number.

[Mal]

This is where I'd be a bad negotiator. Cause I would have said yes to the 20 grand.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Mal]

I wouldn't have held out for him to potentially say 200 grand.

[Damaris]

But, I mean, whatever it is, hopefully he's all right.

[Mal]

Are you reaching a little baby's pocket?

[Damaris]

If I'm a police officer. No.

[Mal]

If you're just a pedestrian and he says, I'll give you 200 grand, just reach my pocket, grab my phone, and call my lawyer.

[Damaris]

No, Rory, you got it wrong. He wanted you to use your phone.

[Mal]

Oh, even better.

[Damaris]

Yes. He didn't want you to take his phone and call.

[Mal]

Wait, he has his lawyer number memorized?

[Julian]

Lawyer's number?

[Damaris]

Why not?

[Mal]

How many numbers do you have memorized?

[Julian]

Yeah, come on.

[Damaris]

Probably like five. But if I had a lawyer, like, if I had a lawyer, like, on call, like.

[Julian]

Yeah, you don't know that.

[Mal]

I guess maybe you guys prepare more than I do. I wouldn't. I don't memorize numbers.

[Damaris]

I remember. I'll probably memorize, like, my homeboy's number or my mom's number. Like, call her, tell her call a lawyer.

[Mal]

But even when I was arrested for false charges of dui, they allowed me to look at my phone to call a family member. I didn't know the number offhand.

[Damaris]

Well, Lil Baby was obviously. He was obviously partying. He was a little lit.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

You know, I mean, he just. He getting arrested, he's saying, check my nuts, check me good.

[Mal]

And the gun was planted. You know, I wasn't there.

[Damaris]

It's not his one. Come on, man. He's in Vegas. It happens all the time.

[Mal]

Person have a reaction. Were they like, yeah, I got you.

[Damaris]

No, you didn't hear the other person. But whatever it is, I hope you know it's because it's Vegas. He probably has a license, but I don't know if that license is good in Vegas. But I'm sure this is nothing. He'll be all right. This is something that's gonna get thrown out.

[Mal]

Yeah, for sure. Damaris don't bring guns, and we go to Vegas.

[Rory]

I was just about to say, man, I might get arrested in Vegas. I don't know.

[Mal]

I'm not responsible. Don't have my number.

[Rory]

I'm not responsible if you get arrested.

[Damaris]

Why would you get arrested in Vegas?

[Mal]

I would bail you out, but I'm not responsible.

[Rory]

I feel like y'all would bail me out just for the story.

[Damaris]

Nah, I'll let you sit for a couple days just so you can get.

[Mal]

Or do.

[Rory]

I mean, you're not gonna let me sit in no Vegas just so you.

[Damaris]

Could kind of get, like, you know what I mean? Some content.

[Mal]

That's sick. To leave your friend in jail. Like, no pot in there.

[Damaris]

Get some content.

[Rory]

Like, no, I know y'all meet some people by heart. I know Rory number by heart.

[Damaris]

People in there see what they talking about in the. In the metropolitan area. In Vegas? No, just, you know, I mean, have some conversations.

[Rory]

Y'all can't do it.

[Damaris]

Get to learn the peoples. There's a bunch of prostitutes in there. You know, that's. That's what all they arrest in Vegas is. Prostitute.

[Mal]

I thought it was legal.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but sometimes some of the girls don't have their.

[Julian]

It's not. It's legal in this state. Except whatever county Vegas is in. It's the only county in Nevada.

[Mal]

Henderson county or whatever that.

[Julian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damaris]

So if they catch you on the stroll, selling that thing, you going to the. You going downtown.

[Mal]

So you just have to, what, walk over the desert line to get a prostitute?

[Damaris]

Yeah, you got to stay out there. You can't. You can't come down the Strip with that.

[Rory]

So how do I make sure that they don't think that I'm a prostitute? Like, I don't want to be, like, mistaken.

[Mal]

That's what you think you're gonna get arrested?

[Damaris]

I'd be mistaken as a prostitute.

[Mal]

You plan on wearing to the event in Vegas?

[Rory]

Not the event. We going to more than one event, not just your event.

[Mal]

What do you think you'd be arrested in Vegas for?

[Rory]

I Don't know.

[Mal]

What do you think we gonna be doing?

[Rory]

I've never been to Vegas before. People say when you get to Vegas, like, there's, like, a bug that bites you. Like, you just become, like, a different person. So I don't know.

[Damaris]

That's not true.

[Rory]

I might get in a bar brawl.

[Julian]

The bug from the Mandalay Bay.

[Damaris]

You gonna get in a bar brawl in Vegas.

[Mal]

That was worse than my Magic Johnson line. But it's cool.

[Rory]

I know I let him. I ignore him. Y'all keep acknowledging. Fair enough.

[Mal]

Fair enough. Alphabet Vegas. I mean, I don't want to shit on the lovely people, like, the actual locals of Vegas, but I think you're gonna be underwhelmed.

[Julian]

Jake, Vegas sucks.

[Mal]

I don't think Vegas is terrible. Like, I think Vegas the 3. Keep it real.

[Damaris]

Vegas is the worst.

[Rory]

That's some of my favorite movies.

[Mal]

There's nothing that's not really what Vegas is.

[Julian]

There's nothing sadder than a flight out of Las Vegas.

[Damaris]

Vegas is. Yo, listen, man. I'm telling you, Vegas is. Was created to fucking kill people quick. That shit is like a black hole.

[Mal]

It was created by the monsters, like a black hole.

[Damaris]

That shit just sucks you dry, takes everything from you and just throws you out on your ass. Like, I get out of here. Vegas is the worst city in America by far. I don't care what nobody say. I hate Vegas.

[Mal]

It's set up for people that are not in major cities and have never seen shit like that. Because even the overpriced clubs in New York, you're walking to a Vegas club and be like, no, there's no way I'm ever doing this. And you're used to paying high prices already. It's just not that cool. Think of, like, the worst overpriced club in New York City. And that's on every block in Vegas.

[Julian]

It's like, catch with slot machines in it.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

Oh, my God, that sounds awful.

[Julian]

It's Vegas.

[Mal]

And then the lobby. Like, the lobby isn't like Tyson Fight Night when Pac was getting busy. It's like a bunch of old people just playing slots, smoking cigarettes, mad.

[Damaris]

You go to your. You go to your room down the slot machine. You go sleep, shower, eat, come back down. They still sitting there.

[Julian]

A lot of CPAP machines.

[Damaris]

Like, you didn't go, like, at all. You didn't leave since I, like, went upstairs. Eight hours sleep, showered eight, came back down. You still sitting at this machine?

[Rory]

Well, for everybody to know, I am accompanying.

[Damaris]

She was like. Like a. Like a drunk groundhog. You just wake up, it's the same day all over again.

[Mal]

There's no clocks.

[Damaris]

That is the.

[Julian]

They purposely don't put clocks or windows.

[Rory]

We've had a vac Vegas conversation before, and y'all said that I was gonna end up in Vegas homeless. But I am going with TO I do gamble. I play blackjack.

[Damaris]

Oh, man.

[Julian]

Oh, they're about to.

[Damaris]

Oh, God. All right, well, we're gonna say goodbye to baby D. We ain't gonna see it after this. A gambler's first time in Vegas. Talk to some of the homeless people. They gonna tell you, I came here 78, never left, gambled everything.

[Mal]

I don't even know my children.

[Damaris]

Yeah, 78.

[Julian]

I split 10. It's been on the street one ever since Vegas.

[Damaris]

I gamble my life savings been here ever since.

[Mal]

I have a new identity.

[Damaris]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Rory]

I'm going with Rory for the first I'm going for the first time to Vegas with Rory for his event. He's doing an event in Vegas?

[Mal]

If anyone's in Vegas. The Bar 745 and Soul House. We're doing kind of like a Ted Talk interview about my album R B Speak easy. It should be a good time.

[Damaris]

Fire.

[Mal]

And it'll be a very low key, calm time. That's why I don't. She talking about.

[Rory]

Well, I'm working at that. At that event, I'll be working. So obviously I'm going to be on low key, low key timing. But bye. The pool, it's up. And our friends are coming. We have friends coming. It's going to be Damaris.

[Mal]

The one and only time I went to Vegas was when we did live shows, right? And they gave us like a cabana at the pool because we were performing at that hotel and let us stay afterwards. After they cleared the day party out, people were putting on scuba diving gear to get into that pool to clean it.

[Rory]

Yeah, I'm not going to go in the pool.

[Mal]

Head to toe. You ever seen Cuba go Underwater? Cuba Gooden Jr. They put that on to clean that pool. That's how disgusting Vegas pools are.

[Rory]

I'm not gonna get in. I just want to, like, lay by it.

[Mal]

We. We watch someone eat pussy in the pool.

[Julian]

Swag.

[Rory]

And you sit up here telling me I'm not gonna have a good time like this sounds.

[Mal]

If you put your feet in, you're not gonna have toes. There's nothing when you take your feet.

[Damaris]

Out the water, I promise you.

[Rory]

There's nothing about watching people eat pussy in the pool.

[Damaris]

Whatever you thinking about Vegas. I could promise you it's not.

[Mal]

I didn't watch two models eat each other out. I watched people from Missouri that were there on vacation.

[Rory]

People from Missouri. I'm sorry. I mean, no disrespect to our Missouri listeners.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's fucked up. Why you doing that?

[Mal]

Well, yeah. Why you do that to Missouri?

[Rory]

That's crazy.

[Damaris]

You said ugh, though.

[Rory]

Okay, well, I am going to attempt to have a good time. I like. On a scale of one to 10, I want to have like a seven time.

[Mal]

Vegas has great food, so we can start there.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Mal]

Really good food.

[Rory]

We have one drunk night. Just promise me. One drunk night.

[Julian]

You have one night.

[Rory]

No, we don't. We have to.

[Damaris]

Great food. Yes. Vegas has great food.

[Rory]

They do. You have to go out and find it, though. It's not always just, like, available.

[Mal]

Well, even like the bigger casinos buy in all the.

[Julian]

Yeah, they just mock all the successful restaurants in major cities.

[Damaris]

Exactly.

[Julian]

There's nothing original. It's just like this there.

[Mal]

I don't know what Vegas is known for. I just know that this shit from New York.

[Damaris]

I'm like, they do.

[Mal]

I mean, because they fly in all the chefs.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I guess I'm excited and being congrats on your event.

[Mal]

Thank you.

[Damaris]

Have a great time at that Damaris. Don't get in the water. Yeah. And then make it back safe. And don't get arrested like Lil baby did.

[Rory]

We gotta record the next day, so I'm gonna come in Vegas hungover. Y'all think burgers and bottles hungover was bad. My Vegas hangover. Oh, my God.

[Mal]

She's gonna be sick of Vegas in one hour.

[Rory]

We going to take.

[Damaris]

She has no idea. She gonna hate that shit. I'm telling you.

[Mal]

She's gonna be like, let's go to last lap.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that shit is trash.

[Rory]

Let's go to last lap. It's so funny.

[Mal]

Anyways, should we stay on music? I saw that Thames finally explained the Wait for you lyrics.

[Damaris]

It broke your heart, didn't it?

[Mal]

I'm not gonna say it broke my heart, but.

[Damaris]

Because you like Tim's.

[Mal]

Love Tim's.

[Damaris]

And you thought that she was gonna wait for you, and then you found.

[Mal]

Out she know wait.

[Julian]

She won't wait for you.

[Damaris]

She won't wait for you. I won't wait for you.

[Rory]

I won't wait.

[Julian]

I get it now.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Rory]

I with it now even more.

[Damaris]

How did y'all not catch it?

[Julian]

How many girls go back and change their Instagram captions now that this doesn't mean.

[Mal]

I think it's more of an Instagram caption now.

[Julian]

Yeah, no, it is now, but I'm saying, how many girls put this caption? The lyrics, they thought it was to a photo of them and they're like, you know, girls got it right.

[Damaris]

Girls ain't waiting for no nigga.

[Mal]

I mean, listen, I always thought it was I will wait for you. I did think that, but during the verse, I was kind of confused. I was like, why would she wait? This doesn't sound like a good situation.

[Rory]

Well, we wait through bad situations all the time.

[Mal]

I thought it was very self aware and. And brave of her to admit that she was gonna wait for some, but, you know, made. Made for a great song.

[Rory]

I won't wait for you. Tell them. Tell them, Tims.

[Mal]

I made a song for you, But I won't wait for you. Yeah, I waited for the mixing master.

[Rory]

I ain't waiting for you.

[Damaris]

How long? What's the longest you waited for a guy?

[Rory]

My whole 20s, that's why.

[Julian]

That's sick.

[Damaris]

See, baby over there talking all that she waited. She waited. She waited a decade for more laughing.

[Mal]

But you've single this long. I'm starting to think you're waiting for a girl. Oh, I feel like you might be waiting for a girl to get divorced. Getting a breakup. I don't really know.

[Julian]

Square root is 64, right?

[Mal]

Why are you looking? Right? Like we would know that, right?

[Damaris]

What's is it? 8. See, that's not fair because I can't shoot back.

[Rory]

Oh.

[Julian]

Oh, why not?

[Damaris]

Because I can't.

[Julian]

Square root of 64 is going to put that.

[Mal]

I researched that before.

[Julian]

I've just looked it up right now.

[Rory]

Yeah, Rory trying to change subject now.

[Julian]

Wait, mall eat. Pause.

[Damaris]

I can't, man. I'm not that guy. But baby D waited 10 years.

[Rory]

Nine, but.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's 10. We rounding up.

[Rory]

Yo, we really mathematicians in this now. Y'all rounding up.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So you waited 10, but yeah, you ain't really wait. Cause you wasn't like, he was locked up and you were sitting around waiting. It was just like y'all was off and on and, you know, y'all had y'all moments and I think you both.

[Mal]

Were waiting for it.

[Rory]

Can we go back to talking about Rory? I ain't gonna lie.

[Mal]

That's fine.

[Rory]

Tim's.

[Mal]

You can on me. Well, are you waiting for a woman? There's nothing wrong with that.

[Damaris]

No, you.

[Rory]

You didn't have that one that you thought about, like, you thought about waiting.

[Damaris]

Why would I be waiting for her? Like, what is the Wait for? Like, what am I waiting on? Like, what is the.

[Mal]

For her to break up with her long term relationship, get divorced. I don't know.

[Damaris]

I think I'm waiting for a girl to break up with somebody to get with her.

[Julian]

With Tory.

[Damaris]

Craig, get the fuck out of here. Waiting for a girl like, yo, I hope she break up with this. That's what you think about me?

[Mal]

Yeah, like the one that got away. And you. You did her wrong. She got in a healthy relationship.

[Damaris]

I'm the one that got.

[Mal]

Now you're a better.

[Julian]

Ooh, miss.

[Damaris]

Surprise me.

[Julian]

You surprise.

[Mal]

So she's been waiting on you?

[Damaris]

Ain't nobody waiting on me. I don't. Well. Well, I don't think anybody is waiting on me, but I'm definitely not.

[Mal]

They have a lot of patience if they are.

[Damaris]

I mean, nothing to do. They didn't tell me they was waiting. Who.

[Mal]

Who am I waiting for? You can shoot back on there if we have the edit button.

[Damaris]

No, I didn't say you was waiting. I didn't say you was waiting for anybody.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

I was gonna shoot. So I had a whole different gun.

[Mal]

Caliber.

[Damaris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a whole different pistol in my back. You shot at me. I'm like, oh, hold up. I'm strapped too. Hold on.

[Mal]

I'm an easy. I'm an easy kill in that department.

[Damaris]

So, yeah, you know, but no, I wouldn't do that to you, my guy.

[Mal]

See, but now you have the listeners thinking I did some.

[Damaris]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you ain't did. No, I don't even. I don't even want that. Well, no, you. No, no, we've all done. But I wasn't alluding to you doing any.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Damaris]

No, I wasn't doing that. Cool.

[Mal]

You think they out there waiting for me?

[Rory]

No, there's definitely some waiting for you.

[Damaris]

No, they're not waiting on a man that got a family is, you know.

[Rory]

Wait, Houston did it. She sung y Saving all my love. That's about waiting on a man. I got a family.

[Mal]

Oh, yeah, I guess it is. Yeah. But she already had homegirl.

[Rory]

That's in real life. I'm talking about the song. Okay, you see, you bring it up.

[Mal]

But now I'm thinking lesbianism. She wrote the I'm an ally Lesbianism. I thought maybe she was writing the song from an actual experience.

[Rory]

No. When I found out saving on my.

[Mal]

Bobby and Whitney was ill. How you have your soulmate and your twin flame.

[Damaris]

When you can sing who's also your homegirl when you when you could sing like that. You got bitches.

[Mal]

Yeah, we don't give. We don't give. Whitney. That's. That's a Jersey girl thing. I feel like they're that diabolical.

[Damaris]

I was looking at some like, pictures of young Whitney Houston. Whitney was bad. Like, I'm talking about like, very, very. Oh my God, she was bad.

[Mal]

Jersey girls also don't know math though.

[Damaris]

Why you say that?

[Mal]

Someone DM Sza and asked to help out with her geometry homework. And SZA was very honest. Like, listen, I don't know. She sent a screenshot of her geometry and SZA said, you on your own.

[Julian]

Oh, you're cooked.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna know how to do Amara's homework.

[Damaris]

So somebody says, I barely got through.

[Mal]

That when I was there.

[Damaris]

So this person, DM says and says, I'm failing geometry. Can you give me math tips? Laugh my ass off, ma'am. I'm a math dummy. I'm not sure what you expected. Tell me about the shapes child. How can I help? And so then she sent geometry and said, I just can't do this.

[Julian]

Also, it's great seeing a binder in 2024.

[Mal]

Yeah, I didn't even know.

[Julian]

I thought tablets, a three hole punch binder.

[Damaris]

Oh, you're cooked. I also appreciate this at 5:30 in the morning.

[Julian]

That's a sick time stamp.

[Mal]

Well, you don't know the time difference of.

[Damaris]

No. Yeah, we don't know where she's at. We don't know where she at in the world, bro.

[Mal]

I wouldn't you just Google this? Like, I can't believe this fan is being this honorable in trying to figure out her math homework.

[Julian]

Yeah, the same.

[Mal]

The same app that you picked up.

[Damaris]

To hit Sizzle DM Scissor.

[Mal]

You could have just figured this shit out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's for sure. That's. That's. See, that's the thing now how.

[Mal]

How Chat GPT could get that done.

[Damaris]

How are you fucking up homework in 2024?

[Mal]

How are they still given homework when they know at home you have every device that could solve anything?

[Damaris]

That really don't make no sense.

[Julian]

Homework doesn't make. You still need to learn.

[Mal]

You think they have like a program to put like book reports and through to find out if it's Chat gp?

[Julian]

Oh, there are. You can do AI. There's like AI. Yeah, you can search.

[Damaris]

Okay, so you can search if my AI, my paper.

[Julian]

Yes, that's been a thing. I mean, I'm for at least a.

[Mal]

Year, probably pretty easy if you can literally Just type in a subject and they'll give you a full paper. I'm sure the reverse search would be just as easy.

[Rory]

And also if you don't learn, I mean with writing I understand, but with math, you have to learn it or else you're going to fail the test. Eventually they're going to give you a test in a room and you can't cheat the test.

[Damaris]

That person is never going to need that geometry in life. That binder, what we see on that binder. Right. That person is never going to need.

[Rory]

That's. That's true.

[Mal]

She might be an architect.

[Rory]

Yeah, you might be an architect. You might be an engineer.

[Damaris]

She's going to work at FedEx.

[Rory]

Oh my God. What is wrong with you?

[Mal]

Well, first of all, there's nothing wrong with working at FedEx.

[Damaris]

But I'm just saying I know people that have college degrees that now work.

[Mal]

At FedEx who have college degrees, who.

[Rory]

Also are using their college degrees.

[Damaris]

I don't know nobody. I know two architects. Two out of everybody I know, okay, uses geometry. This is shit in our curriculum that we do not need to be learning unless we're going into that field. Like, then that's different. Give me that. But everybody shouldn't be learning geometry. For what.

[Mal]

I hated math, but I will say I think it does teach you problem solving skills.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, not specifically math.

[Damaris]

So does playing Super Mario Brothers fair?

[Mal]

Like, I agree.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like I agree we talking about.

[Mal]

But I think that's more of a reason why. I mean, outside of them trying to distract us from teaching us what taxes are in a math class. But yeah, it's. You're teaching problem solving.

[Damaris]

My teacher in like Grace sat there with a riddle.

[Mal]

Figure the shit out.

[Damaris]

My teacher in grade school got in trouble for teaching us like how to balance checkbooks. Like, she got in trouble because that wasn't part of the curriculum. She just like wanted to teach us that. And I remember she like somebody bought the homework home and one of the parents came in the next day and was like, oh, why is my kid learning about a check balancing book? And the teacher got in trouble for that.

[Mal]

Teacher just said, you're welcome.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like I'm just like now looking back, I was like, we needed that. We didn't need no fucking geometry.

[Mal]

There was a program my senior year that, that for kids that weren't going to college but had like relatively okay grades. There was a math program for seniors that was like a taught you about life, like in the math department, like that type of balancing a checkbook.

[Damaris]

You need that. That's what we needed.

[Mal]

Should have never went to college. I could have did that.

[Damaris]

Course the teachers right here.

[Julian]

I never taught math. I'm too. I'm dumb as. When it comes to math. What is this is. I was gonna ask you guys, what is calc calculus? Because I know algebra is a study of shape sizes, all that. Not algebra, sorry, Geometry. Shape, size, all that. Algebra is like the. When you get the fun formulas, A plus B squared equals C squared, all that.

[Mal]

What is Mariah Carey album?

[Julian]

Huh?

[Mal]

The Mariah Carey album. Algebra.

[Damaris]

I don't know, bro.

[Julian]

Like, smart people just made that up to just separate themselves from other people. We're like, we get it, but no one else gets it.

[Rory]

Calculus is the mathematical study of continuous change in the same way that geometry is the study of shape, and algebra.

[Julian]

Is the study of generalization of continuous change.

[Rory]

Yes.

[Julian]

I'm not by. It's math that sounds like theory.

[Damaris]

Like the.

[Mal]

Is that all right. There's also literature that is well above the average person's brain. They're just trying to be smart. No, you're just pushing forward a specific.

[Julian]

Yeah, but it's still English.

[Rory]

Codifying the idea of limits. That's what it's about, codifying.

[Mal]

Sorry, isn't there a tie between oh.

[Rory]

You'Re so genius, Mr. Science and Math?

[Julian]

I don't know.

[Mal]

Once you get to the next level, like. Like Oppenheimer and Einstein were still doing math equations when they were doing science. Like, you got to go to the next level if you're that. No, I just.

[Julian]

It's.

[Mal]

Math's crazy because solar system is also a math equation.

[Julian]

It's the thing that's crazy about math. It's like. It's a language that was developed by doing the. By doing the language, you're developing more of the language. Does that make sense? Like, these things didn't exist. Like, the whole Oppenheimer thing. They created and developed patterns in numbers in formulas that then became a branch to develop more. So they're just adding on to a language that was never written.

[Mal]

But language was also created, too.

[Julian]

Yeah, but, like, English is like, what.

[Mal]

Do we add to the dictionary?

[Julian]

Bootylicious. Like, we're not doing. You know what I mean? We're not doing.

[Mal]

So math is actually more.

[Julian]

Blow up a country in a month. Like, we're not doing things that can, you know, change the course of history with. With. I mean, words are powerful. They say it's the most powerful weapon, whatever, spells. But. But you know what I mean? Like, things that just didn't exist in math are now just, like, commonplace. I don't know that. Just always. I hate math.

[Mal]

Language is the same exact thing. Things that did not exist now exist. Nah, we don't know what the original language was. I mean, unless you want to go down that rabbit hole, which we're not going to do. But they created more languages.

[Julian]

What is the original language?

[Mal]

Or we're cool.

[Damaris]

Why would you even.

[Julian]

No, I just want to.

[Damaris]

You saw him grab the foil. You saw him.

[Mal]

I ducked. I ducked.

[Damaris]

Yeah, just. Just chill.

[Mal]

Based off the first language, which I. Who cares what it was, right? Other languages, if you were to be asked what.

[Julian]

What you think it was.

[Damaris]

What.

[Julian]

What is it?

[Mal]

Duck. Duck. That one.

[Damaris]

There you go. Thank you. Good man.

[Mal]

But, yeah, language and math, I think, are hand in hand and are also within science and develop as years go.

[Julian]

I guess the only other question I had to get off math is, have you guys ever DM'd a celebrity? I know you guys just hang out and talk to them all the time, but have you DM do that more than we do? Oh, that's not.

[Mal]

That's a thousand. Y'all just played. Just shot hoops with Cole. Just played horse with Cole. You hang out with some way more than we do.

[Damaris]

Just play horse with Cole.

[Mal]

Yo, let. Let Cole borrow my debit for the city bike. Like.

[Julian]

Send him a Venmo request.

[Mal]

Way more than we do.

[Julian]

Well, I guess, like, okay. Take out the friendship side of things. I'm saying if you were to just reach out, like, from this.

[Mal]

He quietly just said Cole was his friend.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Julian]

No, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what.

[Damaris]

That's your guy. Know that, man.

[Mal]

That's a true friend.

[Julian]

Take out the.

[Rory]

He know your name.

[Mal]

He know your name is crazy.

[Julian]

My question, yo.

[Damaris]

Asking Julie to. J. Cole knows his name.

[Rory]

Does he?

[Julian]

You want me to answer that?

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Julian]

What do I look like saying? Yes, he does. Like, that's such a weird thing.

[Mal]

I know you got in the corner.

[Damaris]

I want you to say it the same way.

[Mal]

I dodged the. The language.

[Damaris]

You just got. Duncan, I want you to say you got. Yeah, J. Cole Cold knows my name. Say it. Say it. Julian.

[Julian]

Oh, it's weird.

[Mal]

You walked up like, Walter White. Say my name. Where are you going with the celebrity thing? Oh, we DM'd a celebrity.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, cold DM, like.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

We don't even know each other.

[Julian]

You don't know. That's what I'm trying to do. You have no idea. You don't know each Other but you just said either something silly or like a response and they actually responded back.

[Rory]

Jesse Williams. I have DM Jesse Williams.

[Damaris]

He responded.

[Julian]

He responded.

[Mal]

I know he sends him that. That Batman picture, right?

[Damaris]

Yo, you sit. You said Jesse Williams the Batman with.

[Julian]

With the Blur feature. You wipe it.

[Damaris]

Yo n. I never. I never damned no celebrity for what the would I DM a celebrity for.

[Mal]

If I have it's been with a purpose. Knowing that they'd reply.

[Rory]

I guess you man J Foy replied to your ass for seven years.

[Mal]

I tweeted James Fontelroy. But on is James Fauntleroy a celebrity?

[Damaris]

I don't think nobody knows who James Faunler is. The James Foller walked through the streets of Manhattan. Wouldn't nobody probably know who he is.

[Mal]

He's not even the music world.

[Damaris]

Well, yeah, this is like a music.

[Julian]

Lean back to the A list conversation.

[Mal]

Listen, that's on y'all.

[Rory]

Crash out about his. About his boy. Boy don't do that.

[Damaris]

Who's his boy?

[Mal]

I think he. I think he's purposely not try to be a celebrity.

[Damaris]

No, I'm with you. I feel that.

[Mal]

I think he lays low and prefers just writing classics for all your favorite art. And he wants to play with samurai swords and sing the songs that he wants to sing.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[Mal]

Yeah. That's all.

[Damaris]

I get it.

[Mal]

You know.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I've never did not reply to my DMs.

[Rory]

You've never hard eyed a female celebrity before? Hard eyed.

[Mal]

That's crazy.

[Rory]

No, like when she posted a story, you never hard eyed it a celebrity.

[Damaris]

No. Yeah. That's not weird to you?

[Rory]

Yeah, it is weird to me.

[Damaris]

Yeah. So you think I'll be doing weird on the Internet?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

No, I'm not hard eyeing the celebrities.

[Rory]

Folks I crashed out about, I think. But Jesse Williams is the only celebrity I ever DM'd. I don't DM celebrities.

[Damaris]

You saw him butt naked on Broadway and then you jumped in his D.

[Rory]

I have been a Jesse. I'm a Grey's Anatomy fan, baby.

[Mal]

I've been on she was there from the first album.

[Rory]

Yeah, like since I was a kid. I was in love with him.

[Mal]

His first mixtape with the dreads. What did you say in the dm?

[Rory]

I think it was something like. You'll see. I think it was like a. You'll see.

[Julian]

You'll see.

[Damaris]

Yo, we got voicemails though. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this today. I'm not doing. I'm not doing this today. I'm not doing this.

[Mal]

That could also mean you're gonna murder him.

[Damaris]

DMing a celebrity. You'll see.

[Julian]

Sounds dangerous.

[Damaris]

That's not weird. As to none of y'all. You'll see.

[Julian]

It sounds.

[Mal]

You'll see. I'll wear your skin one day.

[Damaris]

I'll scalp you.

[Mal]

I'll murder your family.

[Rory]

I said hi.

[Damaris]

When was this?

[Rory]

August 7th, 2023.

[Julian]

Okay, now say you'll see.

[Mal]

It was recently.

[Rory]

Yeah, I don't.

[Mal]

Yeah, my bad.

[Rory]

What the y'all think I'm on? Yeah, I'm like that. About mine.

[Damaris]

About your. That don't know you.

[Rory]

Okay.

[Damaris]

About mine.

[Mal]

That.

[Damaris]

Jesse don't know you.

[Mal]

He don't know yet, though. He'll see.

[Damaris]

That's gonna be her Jesse Williams High.

[Mal]

You'll see.

[Julian]

You'll see. It's crazy.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God. Yo, that is.

[Mal]

What celebrity would you DM if. Because I. I don't think you've ever dmd.

[Damaris]

I've never done that.

[Mal]

But if you were to DM a celebrity, a real celebrity, not like some IG chick that had. Has a million followers, who would you DM in the event that they would reply.

[Julian]

You always got to do something funny. Take a non traditional approach.

[Rory]

Hi. I feel like that.

[Damaris]

No, that's very. That's the most traditional approach, like, in the world.

[Mal]

Hello there, sir.

[Julian]

Like, asking for, like, the point is this person asking for homework, like, that's how you get the attention of someone that's not going to respond.

[Rory]

Did it hurt? Did it hurt?

[Damaris]

What? Did it hurt to who?

[Mal]

But he would have to have, like, a different response with that. He'd have to remix it.

[Damaris]

Did he hurt. I missed that. Did it hurt? To who? Who would I be saying that to?

[Rory]

What, you.

[Mal]

To your celebrity crush.

[Rory]

You don't have, like, how. You don't know the original Riz. Did it hurt when you fell? Did it hurt when. When you fell from heaven?

[Mal]

But he would remix it.

[Damaris]

Yo, can we just get. When I.

[Mal]

When I dump those money bags over yet? Said that would be your response instead.

[Rory]

When I drop this dick in your DMs.

[Damaris]

Imagine, yo, that's. Look at the mas.

[Mal]

To me, that's sexual harassment.

[Damaris]

Yeah, like, see, Damaris want to get me locked up. That's what she want to do. She want to see me behind the wall. Did it hurt? What? When I dropped this dick on you. Now. Now I'm at the podium talking about, I apologize. I'm sorry.

[Mal]

I need to go to rehab.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I was.

[Julian]

I didn't think she was gonna see It.

[Damaris]

I didn't get enough sleep that night. Like. Like what? Come on, man. I'm not doing that. But I would probably DM like Halle Berry or somebody like that. Somebody like that.

[Rory]

Halle might respond. Halle's cool.

[Julian]

Halle's very cool. On Twitter, you could. You could get her attention on Twitter.

[Damaris]

Yo, you know who followed me? Who was following me on Twitter?

[Mal]

And John Cena.

[Damaris]

I followed him back. No, not John Cena.

[Julian]

We knew Britney Spears was.

[Damaris]

Britney Spears was. I don't know if she still is. You know, her dad was Pam Greer. Oh, Foxy Brown. I saw she was following. I was like, what the. I follow her back immediately.

[Julian]

Hammer Pam Greer.

[Damaris]

I was like, yo, the legend.

[Mal]

I heard with it. You'll see Foxy Brown.

[Rory]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Damaris]

I followed her right back.

[Mal]

Yeah, Pam Gray is one of those.

[Damaris]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

Still looks great.

[Damaris]

Hell yeah.

[Rory]

Yeah, I would out.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Pam Greer twice on Tuesday. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

[Caller 1]

Yo, what up, Rory? Ma, Damaris, Julian. I'm calling because I keep running to this issue where I'll call her shorty and her new nigga will answer the phone.

[Mal]

I was waiting for it just when I saw the title.

[Julian]

Yeah, I love this is. He's become one of my.

[Mal]

We have an amazing Baltimore fan base.

[Julian]

He's become one of my favorite callers. Should we just. Just. We just got to hear him say it again. Just those two words.

[Mal]

It's funny. He tried to hide it too.

[Caller 1]

Yeah, her new will answer the phone or whatever, and I'm not trying to be a home wrecker, but at the same time, like, I just. I just be trying to call like, you know what I'm saying? To like, you know what I'm saying? I'll be trying to do my thing or whatever when, like, her new will answer the phone. The first time I did it.

[Mal]

Just stay current.

[Caller 1]

I called a girl, and when she called, when I called her, it went straight to voicemail. So I was like, all right, she might be on dnd, so I'll call it again.

[Damaris]

And then it rang or whatever, but no, stop, stop. What?

[Rory]

Her new nigga keep answering the phone. And you like, well, you know, I thought maybe her phone might be on D and D. So I called again. It signed D and D for a reason, Baby.

[Damaris]

Boop.

[Mal]

Yeah, when you call twice, sometimes it goes off.

[Rory]

Yeah, but it. It signed D and D for a reason. Don't try to bypass my dnd. It's. I'm not for me.

[Damaris]

She's laid up with her boyfriend, so it's on dnd. He breaking through the DND by calling back to back swag. It's like, come on. Breaking through the D and D. Breaking through the dnd. You bugging out now.

[Rory]

You gotta know the game.

[Mal]

No, he knows the game. That's why he's calling twice.

[Caller 1]

When they answered, it was a. On the phone. And I lied to you. Now all my life, the said, yo, if you call this phone again, I'ma shoot the out you.

[Mal]

And it hung up.

[Julian]

You know, Dots.

[Damaris]

Call back. All right.

[Caller 1]

Then I still ended up hitting, but it was like. Wait, what I'm saying, I felt like I risked my life a little bit.

[Mal]

He hit after.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Gangster.

[Rory]

Stop. Why are you crashing out about a. Who got a violent man?

[Damaris]

That thing, fire. That's his eater right there. He not letting that go.

[Rory]

No, he died by his eater. This was his. He was pursuing her. He hadn't hit before.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but he hit plus dome.

[Julian]

She got wifed.

[Damaris]

Damn. Damn. Already. We home now. Let's get on.

[Rory]

You know how I go like, you. Why are you risking your life, like. And then you calling me?

[Mal]

People from Baltimore say the Wire is a good representation of that city. It's one of those shows that if you from Baltimore, art imitates life for sure. Right? Right. In the Wire, there's about four women. One of them's a lesbian and a cop. So they're only. There's only three women in Baltimore. Like, he didn't have much choice.

[Damaris]

You got Baltimore up. There's some fine ones down there in Baltimore.

[Mal]

Name? Name? Outside of Snoop and Kimmy the cop. Name. Another woman in the Wire in all six seasons.

[Damaris]

You talking about the Wire.

[Mal]

I'm talking about they sold drugs all year round. Didn't see a girl once.

[Damaris]

Yeah, but that was some, you know.

[Julian]

Talk about a show.

[Damaris]

Yeah, Baltimore.

[Mal]

She only had a few options.

[Damaris]

They out there.

[Caller 1]

And then the second time, a girl I used to mess with, I kind of stopped messing with her for a little bit because she started different girl. You know, I'm saying, doing some business with my mom or whatever. And when she graduated college, though, I. I called her and I was like. I was trying. You know what I'm saying? Congratulate her on. On graduating. But I called her, like, three in the morning because, you know what I'm saying, I wanted to congratulate her at three in the morning.

[Mal]

Naturally.

[Caller 1]

And her answered the phone like, hello, I saw the big sign, just hung up the phone. So I want to know, am I doing something wrong here?

[Mal]

Am I? No, no, no. I love when people say the thing they did wrong.

[Damaris]

Like, yes. You calling women that have call me my.

[Rory]

Answer the phone and you go click.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Now you gotta wake up and answer questions.

[Rory]

Yo, wake up.

[Damaris]

Now I'm choking you. Now I'm choking you out your sleep.

[Rory]

Can you imagine?

[Mal]

And look at the way he rationalized it. Like he didn't know what he was doing. Because I wanted to congratulate her at 3:00am like, that was the time I felt, yeah, bro.

[Rory]

If you pick up kia phone and a nigga go, oh. And hang up.

[Damaris]

If a nigga go, oh, this.

[Rory]

Oh, my God.

[Damaris]

Like, are you still over there? Like, go home.

[Rory]

I'm a villain, bro.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that's wild. He's bugging.

[Mal]

Then I'm calling Damaris first and saying, yo, can you watch tomorrow?

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Everybody dying.

[Damaris]

Yo, y. Yo, you answer your girl phone.

[Mal]

And the sigh, you again.

[Damaris]

Oh, you still there. And hang up.

[Rory]

You know what's crazy? I've done that. So you know what? I. I actually.

[Damaris]

You done what? What you done? What you did.

[Rory]

So I was dating this guy. I was dating. This is why I get for dating from New Jersey. I was dating this guy and he was like, sneaking around with this girl.

[Julian]

You don't drag the whole tri.

[Mal]

You hate Jersey. Brooklyn, Queens, you on every area.

[Damaris]

Wherever she did a guy from and it don't work out. She hate that whole state. No, I was Syracuse, Schenectady, Rochester. All them is a dub.

[Rory]

All of them dated a Rochester bro. Don't put that out.

[Damaris]

We're not doing that. You dated somebody. You dated somebody from the Rock?

[Rory]

Don't never date anybody from the Rock.

[Julian]

All right, Brockport.

[Rory]

So I know somebody who went to school in Brockport. But anyway, long story short. Was from Jersey. He had a Jersey down there when I was in Syracuse or whatever, right? So he was like, hiding a. But she knew about me. So I called and she answered the phone and was like, damaris, don't call this phone no more. And I was like, have him call me when you leave. That I did do the. Huh.

[Julian]

That's up.

[Damaris]

That's wild.

[Rory]

Call me. I was like, call me.

[Damaris]

Call.

[Rory]

Call me. Like, have him call me when you leave.

[Julian]

So you thought she was gonna hang up and then go to him be like, hey, the other girl you're said, call once I leave this apartment.

[Mal]

And how is he hiding her if the girl picked up the phone?

[Rory]

But she fought him for the phone. She fought him for the phone. I knew about her from my own creeping because she kept Trying to make herself be known. But she wasn't like his girl. She wasn't his girlfriend. She was some girl. But yeah, I've definitely boned and like, like into the phone.

[Damaris]

You gave him some after that?

[Rory]

No, that never saw me again until our friend died.

[Damaris]

No, stand on business.

[Rory]

Out of here. But anyway, yes, I've done that before, so I can't talk. But that is. Don't do that to women, though. That's up.

[Damaris]

Yeah, homie, you definitely doing something wrong. Stop calling women that have a boyfriend. Just stop.

[Mal]

The marriage should have went full what's who. Vita played in Belly. Kiana should have went full kiana on him. Oh, this Keisha. He taught me how to suck dick in everything. Dick.

[Rory]

We haven't yet, cuz I'm only 16. But I did suck his dick the night before last.

[Damaris]

We don't talk about how crazy that is.

[Mal]

The night before last.

[Damaris]

Yo, we don't talk about how crazy that is.

[Mal]

And she repeated herself with conviction. I said I sucked his dick the night before last.

[Damaris]

All that. She was 16. Yeah, that is. That's not crazy to nobody. We used to watch that movie and.

[Mal]

Like now it's crazy. When Tommy was getting head in the car when Keisha called, frantic, and he was like, I bet. And just kept getting his dick sucked.

[Damaris]

From a 16 year old.

[Mal]

Yeah, crazy art imitates life, unfortunately.

[Rory]

Yeah, at that time, I didn't know that was just. Oh, you could give me head. I ain't gonna you though. Cause you 16.

[Mal]

At that time, people thought Tommy was commendable.

[Rory]

Yep.

[Damaris]

They said nah, he a stand up. Yeah. Which is sick. What, she's 16.

[Mal]

Yeah. Like, damn. He went about that grown ass man commendable way, but crazy. Do we have another one?

[Julian]

Why yes, Rory, we have one more.

[Damaris]

Why yes, Rory, we have two today. Why I order.

[Caller 2]

What's going on, y'all? It's K from New York. Hope y'all doing well. I was thinking about a situation and I wanted to hear y'all thoughts on ghosting. So a while back, me and a girl were talking. We'd been together a few times in college, like, like casual thing. And a couple years later, I hit her up. We got together, we went on a couple of dates. Regular type shit, you know, just getting food, chilling. But after a couple months, the energy kind of got weird. I asked her to kick it one time and she didn't respond. So that was that. I knew it was clip. And hey, man, it happens. It's part of the game. It doesn't Matter now. But I'm gonna be honest. For a while, this had me bothered.

[Julian]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Caller 2]

It's like the only time I've been ghosted for real. My thing was, like, we aren't randos. Like, we have a decent rapport. So I'm laid back. I'm not going to trip if you're just straight up and tell me you're off the situation. So I felt disrespected by that. But I won't rant, though. I just want thoughts from the crew on ghosting, if y'all remember, like, any experiences either with you ghosting someone or being ghosted and what, like, that was like. But, yeah, that's it.

[Mal]

Peace.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I suppose we spoke about that before. Ghosting.

[Mal]

Game is the game.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I ghost. I ghosted. I ghosted a few people, but I. Looking back, that shit is like, that's fucked up.

[Rory]

I hate ghosting. Please.

[Damaris]

Ghosting as fuck.

[Mal]

Just avoiding the.

[Damaris]

And I've been ghosted, but it's like when I'm. When. When a chick ghosts me, I love it because that ain't nothing but. But I deserve that. I'm saying I've done it.

[Mal]

It's been a few times. It's bothered me because I like, like the girl and thought it was going to be something. But, you know, the older you get, you realize that's just how it goes.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Then, I mean, you know, once you get to that point where you start breaking down, the person that ghosted you, like, she ain't even that cute.

[Mal]

Oh, that's your ego.

[Rory]

Lame.

[Damaris]

Yeah. You got to do that, though. That's how you heal.

[Mal]

Or she just didn't like it. That's not how you heal.

[Damaris]

That is how you heal.

[Julian]

Just shit on her.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Julian]

The healing process is just picking her apart.

[Damaris]

Ex.

[Mal]

I ain't want you anyways.

[Damaris]

Yeah, that.

[Mal]

That's cat calling. Healing.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. What's up? Oh, I ain't want to talk to you anyway.

[Rory]

You ain't even.

[Mal]

You just tried to talk to me.

[Rory]

I hate when he's like, you ain't even that cute. So then why are you hawking me down?

[Damaris]

Cause is horny, that's all.

[Rory]

Nah. Cause I'm that cute.

[Julian]

N. He's got a point.

[Damaris]

Yeah, be horny, man. Yeah, N. Be horny. That's all. But the ghosting is whack, though.

[Mal]

Cat calling, I think, is more than horny. I think that's like a real weird impulse that people need to deal with, with.

[Damaris]

When you see a beautiful girl and you, like, try to talk.

[Mal]

I think that's like a tick and an impulse that you have.

[Julian]

You know, it's autism.

[Damaris]

Seeing a. A beautiful girl and you want to talk to her. That's awesome.

[Mal]

Every girl that walk by, you got to say something to. Yeah, to me. That's. That's an impulse you need to deal with.

[Rory]

They do it to every girl. I thought I was special.

[Mal]

You thought you were the only girl ever cat called in Manhattan.

[Rory]

No, I don't get cat called in Manhattan. I'm not Manhattan pretty. I get cat called in Brooklyn.

[Damaris]

Wait, what now? Now I'm confused.

[Rory]

Now it's like white people. White people Ain't cat calling me white.

[Damaris]

Only white people live in Manhattan.

[Mal]

White construction workers are definitely cat calling.

[Rory]

No, they smile and whistle.

[Mal]

That's a cackle.

[Rory]

No, that's not a real cat call.

[Damaris]

Whistling at a girl is crazy.

[Rory]

Yeah, they still whistle. I thought it was done, but they.

[Mal]

Something from the 50s. That's a gentleman.

[Rory]

Yeah, I get whistled at in Manhattan, but in Brooklyn, it's year. Yo. Yo. Excuse me.

[Damaris]

That works.

[Rory]

Excuse me, sweetheart. Excuse me, sweetheart.

[Damaris]

That be working on you too. Get the out of here and you stop.

[Rory]

Can you stop?

[Damaris]

Yo the marriage stop when the be like you're.

[Rory]

I stopped like, huh? Get the out of here.

[Mal]

We know each other.

[Julian]

A year's worked on you.

[Rory]

A year has. Has. No, a year has never worked on me.

[Damaris]

And that's cap.

[Rory]

No. A year has never worked on me.

[Mal]

Has a. Do I know. Do I know you from somewhere? Has that ever worked?

[Damaris]

Worked where you know me from? She definitely say that.

[Rory]

What car was Ian?

[Damaris]

I respect that. I respect that. That's honesty.

[Mal]

What if he was on the passenger side?

[Rory]

Nah.

[Mal]

Of his best friend's ride.

[Rory]

Nah.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Rory]

I'm okay. The shooter be on the passenger side, though. I'm. I've outgrown the shooter days. The shooter do be on the passenger side.

[Mal]

What if. What if they're just driving to Starbucks?

[Rory]

I don't want no, man. I drink Starbucks.

[Julian]

Soy boy.

[Rory]

Yeah, they out here soy milking it.

[Damaris]

Vaccine sugar.

[Julian]

Got vaccine Precursor to the next episode.

[Mal]

I moved on from the shooter. The guy that is in the getaway car is getting the same charges.

[Damaris]

They all going down.

[Mal]

The guy in the crash car is getting the same charges. Everybody's getting those.

[Damaris]

And they snitching on each other. That's a fact.

[Julian]

I think ghosting and he's gonna say.

[Mal]

Yo, I was just driving.

[Julian]

Yeah, I think ghosting is better fit for a young, young man's game. I was. I did a lot of ghosting.

[Rory]

You look like you ghost.

[Julian]

When I was younger. I did.

[Mal]

Did ghosting work, though, when you're on the dating app and it's only like a mile. Vicinity.

[Julian]

Yeah, I've never.

[Mal]

Because then you're gonna see them.

[Julian]

Oh, yeah. No, I mean, in New York. It was in Chicago. I. But I also, like, if I see.

[Damaris]

Somebody that you ghosted is definitely, like, one of the most awkward encounters.

[Julian]

You know what? I've. I've ghosted how you been in the past, but I've never really ended.

[Mal]

You gotta hit that note.

[Julian]

You gotta hit that octave of body.

[Mal]

Yo, look at you.

[Damaris]

Look at you.

[Rory]

Look at me. You.

[Mal]

Yo, why you ain't reply to my text?

[Julian]

Look at me.

[Damaris]

You heard Damaris. That Damaris definitely hit a dick with that. Look at you.

[Rory]

Out of here. Look at you.

[Mal]

Y. I was just thinking about you.

[Damaris]

Yo, I was just about to call you.

[Mal]

Crazy how God works.

[Damaris]

No, you was not, man. I was just trying to call. Call you. What do you mean, he was just trying to call me? Yo, I got me.

[Mal]

Yo, I got a new number. Which number you got on me?

[Damaris]

Yeah, same number.

[Julian]

Same one. We're connected on Instagram. We got.

[Mal]

Every time.

[Rory]

I saw.

[Damaris]

That's up, man. And we shouldn't be laughing about that. That's up. Ghost and people.

[Mal]

Oh, no, I agree. I've done it and it's wrong. I was wrong.

[Damaris]

I've done it, and I'm wrong for that. I'm. I'm still, you know, working. God is not done with me. I'm still. I'm still. I'm still learning. But, yeah, stop ghosting people. That's not right.

[Julian]

Well, the point I was making is I've ghosted people, but I've also never ended it on. I mean, if it goes. The terms technically are bad terms, but, like, it's never on a hateful ending. So if I see someone in public, I don't. The. The awkward. It's like, it's not really that awkward because I'm like, oh, like, what's up?

[Damaris]

That's awkward.

[Julian]

But, like, it's not in the sense that I. If it was, like, it ended poorly and then it, like, went to. We're never talking.

[Damaris]

You ghost.

[Rory]

To me, that's ending poorly. That's. It's actually as poor as.

[Mal]

It's a little weird if we're in line for food and I've been inside your body before and. And we haven't spoken. Yeah, it's weird.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Rory]

And I text you and you just never text me back or we had something planned, and you just never.

[Mal]

I'm not judging you because I've done the same thing.

[Julian]

You know what to say.

[Mal]

It's not weird. Is weird.

[Julian]

You know, it's great.

[Mal]

I was. I've been inside of you, and then I stopped talking to you, and now we're in line together.

[Damaris]

We were practically living together, and you ghosted me.

[Julian]

What I love is when you text, when you. When you realize, oh, I haven't seen or talked to so and so in, like, a month or whatever. Like, getting to that ghosting threshold. And then you look, you, like, search your name and go to the text, right? And you'll see that you're the last person that sent the last text. I'm like, all right.

[Damaris]

Oh, like, you sent the text live.

[Julian]

I sent the last text. I'm out. I'm good. I. I like getting ghosted.

[Damaris]

What?

[Julian]

Because it just illegally.

[Mal]

You have to heal to me. That's a way we just said.

[Damaris]

You gotta hear. I know. I didn't say I like. You didn't hear me say I like getting ghosted?

[Julian]

Well, if it's a girl that I'm really interested, obviously, there's. There's stipulation with that, but for, like, a casual hookup thing, like, good. Go, go. It's great.

[Damaris]

I'm talking about somebody like, you're really dating and really.

[Julian]

Oh, no, that would suck. Obviously, that would suck. But, like, most of the time, if it's just, like, a casual fling thing, I'd love for you to be the person to be like, this isn't working for me. Sick.

[Mal]

Bye.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I think. I think we all know when certain situations are not healthy and working for us. And if it ends on a ghost note, I think it's easier that way because it's like, yo, this wasn't working out anyway. Like, it does. It really doesn't matter at that point. But if it was, like, a good relationship and y'all just had, like, a rocky little moment and then it's ghost after that, that's when it's like, damn. Like, I couldn't try to work through that. Like. But if it's like, we've been trying to work through shit since we've been dating each other and seeing each other, and it's just not working.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

And then somebody just stops responding and stop replying, and it's like, all right.

[Julian]

It was a while ago. I hooked up with a girl at a bar. We met.

[Damaris]

Met at a bar, Mini Moon.

[Julian]

So it Was actually a while ago. And we hooked up first night we met. And then we, like, did it again. And then she just stopped replying me. I was like, we got. This is great for me, like, where we're at. Like, she lived close by. Late night thing. After nights out with friends separately. And then she lived really close to me. And I kept seeing around the neighborhood who's always with the same guy, and I was like, oh, she's been cheating on her boyfriend with me.

[Damaris]

Yeah, you decide.

[Julian]

And then I was like, okay. It's like, I'm never gonna. I'm not like, I would encourage that. So, like, I've never texted her back. Never. Whatever. Like, we still. I see her around the neighborhood often with him because they. I think they live together.

[Damaris]

That is like an ego check, though. Like, when you find out, you decide.

[Julian]

I'm. I'm okay with that.

[Damaris]

You okay with being aside.

[Julian]

I mean, like, if that's. Yeah, I'm not. I don't want from you.

[Rory]

If you found out you were coffee girl's side, you would lose your mind. If you found out you were her.

[Julian]

Side, I would take anything. At this point. We don't even talk really. So I Would that actually be great.

[Rory]

Oh, my.

[Damaris]

Really?

[Rory]

I know you're.

[Mal]

You love her that much?

[Damaris]

How long have you. I thought y'all was cool.

[Julian]

We. No, I mean, we're cool, but, like, we don't. I just. The effort's not. I'm just not putting in.

[Damaris]

You're not chasing her?

[Julian]

No, Like, I just. I don't know. I feel like the window. How many times can we do this? Like, let's rekindle and then no one's see you for three months. It's like, weird. It's like an odd cycle.

[Mal]

She has you on a string.

[Damaris]

She got a boyfriend.

[Julian]

She could. Sure.

[Rory]

She could just not like you like that or that.

[Damaris]

Sure she got a boyfriend.

[Julian]

That being said, if she had a boyfriend and want to me, I would still her. That's fine with it way.

[Damaris]

That's a shoot there.

[Mal]

What if. What if you were the side guy for a while and then she said, I'll leave my boyfriend and does it. Would you then wife her?

[Julian]

One of my best. I'd never really believed in that, but one of my best friends was dating a girl for like four years throughout college. Cheated on her with a girl he worked with when he moved to New York. And they are now married with a kid. And they are like, the happiest couple I've ever seen.

[Rory]

Don't like Your husband, your boyfriend keep you from your husband.

[Julian]

So in the spirit of that, if it was, I'd at least give it a shot. I would. If she's like, look, I didn't think this was going to become a thing, but I really like you. Whatever. I would at least see it through to be like, okay, let's try to actually date because this is someone that I've been wanting to date for I guess a while now.

[Mal]

When you know she's capable of cheating. Do you think that she wouldn't once she got.

[Julian]

Everyone's capable of cheating.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

I'm not faulting anyone for that.

[Rory]

Just because you cheated doesn't make you a cheater. Just like just because you lie doesn't make you a liar.

[Julian]

Which Watch. Damn it. I'm so mad. I'm the only person watching it. The new season of Love Island. There, there's a really good couple and then the one girl finds out that her man, she asked him like, hey, have you ever cheated in the past? He said, yeah, but like long time ago. I'm not. That does the whole like thing really helped handled it well.

[Damaris]

She couldn't get over it that he cheated on her.

[Julian]

That. No, no.

[Mal]

Like in his life.

[Julian]

Because she was like, wants to cheat her always a cheater. I was like, that's like, that's not how that works. It's not true.

[Rory]

But it's. But yeah, I can recognize that. But you know, I can understand that being a red flag.

[Damaris]

Somebody being the cheater.

[Rory]

Yeah. Because there are people who have never cheated because they would never be comfortable with it. And I would prefer one of those people over somebody who has cheated and they're like, yeah, but I'll never do it again.

[Mal]

It's kind of if somebody was a serial cheater. Yes. I could see that being a red flag. But if somebody happened to cheat once in their past.

[Rory]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Are we holding everything from your past up now as well? Yeah, if we're going to play that game. So I don't know. I think it's funny your ego got hurt when he was the saga.

[Damaris]

My ego?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Being a side guy is kind of tight.

[Mal]

I was fine with it.

[Julian]

Yeah.

[Damaris]

I don't know if it was her. It's definitely a like, oh, like, okay, it was funny.

[Julian]

It was funny.

[Damaris]

You know, I gotta play my position.

[Julian]

How did you.

[Mal]

I knew my position from the rip, so.

[Julian]

No, but how did. Okay, so she must have told you. But how did you find out you were the side guy? Guy? Because for me, I didn't know, until I saw them together multiple times, like, throughout this. In the city.

[Damaris]

Yeah, I saw her. I saw her with him.

[Julian]

Okay. Same.

[Damaris]

I was like, oh, okay, I'm the side. My bad. I thought it was first base. I go to shortstop.

[Julian]

Great position.

[Damaris]

Great position.

[Julian]

Versatile.

[Damaris]

I just didn't know where I was at on the field. My bad.

[Mal]

Scared to be an option.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

All right. We could wrap up. This was great. This was fun. Everyone have a safe holiday weekend.

[Damaris]

Have a safe and blessed Labor Day weekend. That means. You know what Labor Day weekend means, Rory? Means summer is tapering off.

[Mal]

Yes. It means West Indians. Everyone be safe on the parkway.

[Damaris]

Yes.

[Mal]

In Brooklyn. Everyone be safe.

[Damaris]

Have fun, but be safe.

[Mal]

Most importantly, no drinking and driving. I don't know.

[Damaris]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Holiday weekend.

[Damaris]

Yeah. Uber.

[Julian]

My brother's visiting. I'll be parading him and his Kendall now. Now wife. Around the city. Yeah. Yeah.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Kendall.

[Julian]

Kendall, Leon.

[Damaris]

Kendall and Leilani.

[Mal]

Does it come, like, with that? I was about to say escort service. Sound crazy. Does it, like. Does he get, like, a agent that follows y'all around?

[Julian]

Oh, this not Antonio? No, Antonio's the. Yeah. No, but when I do see Antonio, there are Secret Service agents now. Yeah, it's weird.

[Damaris]

Shout out to Antonio.

[Mal]

Can't give RFK that crazy.

[Damaris]

All right, well.

[Julian]

What?

[Damaris]

In any regard, be safe, be blessed this weekend. We'll be back to talk to you on a few days. Be blessed, be humble, be grateful. I'm. That he's just Ginger.

[Mal]

Peace.