Episode 303 | Live From London

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL – Episode 303 | Live From London

Released on September 17, 2024

Introduction In Episode 303 of "New Rory & MAL," hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, listeners are taken live to London where hosts Mal and Peach engage in a dynamic and candid conversation. Skipping over intros and advertisements, the episode delves deep into a variety of topics ranging from personal anecdotes and cultural observations to in-depth discussions on the music industry and hip-hop biases.

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1. Live from London: Cultural Insights and Personal Experiences

The episode kicks off with Mal and Peach sharing their experiences of being in London, reflecting on the city's rich history and their personal feelings of being outsiders.

• Mal expresses a sense of historical oppression felt in London, albeit in a somewhat recycled manner:

  “It's a recycled joke, but it's the only city I can feel like an oppressed man.” (01:58)

• Peach agrees, highlighting the pervasive aura of history in the city:

  “Like, you get this, like, aura about you, where your history starts to seep through your pores.” (01:47)

They discuss the challenges of adjusting to London's vibe, mentioning the city's similarities to other global metropolises and the confusion it brings.

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2. The "Raw Dogged Flight" Trend: A Six-Hour Challenge

Mal introduces the concept of "raw dogging a flight," a trending challenge on TikTok where participants refrain from using any electronic devices during a long flight.

• Mal explains the trend:

  “You literally just have to stare at the seat in front of you. No phone, no book, no electronics, no music, no food, no drinks.” (02:36)

• Peach critiques the psychological implications, labeling it as psychopathic behavior:

  “But why was it a psych to challenge? Because that's psychopathic behavior and they do.” (02:55)

Both hosts share their personal attempts and frustrations with the challenge, emphasizing the difficulty of maintaining focus without distractions.

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3. Super Bowl Halftime Show Controversy: Lil Wayne vs. Kendrick Lamar

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to debating whether Lil Wayne or Kendrick Lamar was deserving of the Super Bowl halftime show spot.

• Mal defends Lil Wayne's legacy while questioning the suitability of his content for such a mainstream event:

  “Wayne's content, Wayne's language, Wayne, like, this is for the super bowl halftime show is for real Middle America.” (19:18)

• Peach echoes these sentiments, expressing concerns over Lil Wayne's compatibility with the family-friendly Super Bowl audience:

  “We could have went to every Everyday People last night… I just want to hear what's going to Kendrick is going to something for their record with her.” (20:29)

They critique the NFL's decision-making process, comparing it to other artists and questioning the fairness and impact on Lil Wayne's legacy.

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4. Complex Media's "20 Rappers Under 20" List: A Critical Review

Mal and Peach analyze and critique Complex Media's list ranking the top 20 rappers under 20, expressing skepticism over some of the selections.

• Mal starts by highlighting discrepancies and questionable rankings:

  “Playboi Cardi at number one. Is he a rapper?” (55:22)

• Peach concurs, pointing out biases and omissions:

  “It's a New York bias... People always talk about the weather. I'm like, bro, being from New York.” (72:54)

They discuss several artists on the list, arguing for the inclusion of artists like Joey Badass and Kodak Black while questioning the placement of others like Playboi Carti and Lil Uzi Vert.

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5. Listener Voicemails: Housing Dilemmas and Community Concerns

The hosts respond to listener voicemails, offering advice on sensitive issues such as housing and neighborhood safety.

• Listener Mark from Memphis seeks advice on whether to report a problematic potential tenant:

  “Should I tell the landlord, please ignore him and don't even consider him or should I just let things play out?” (70:48)

• Mal advises prioritizing peace and the well-being of his family:

  “Home is supposed to be peace. I think he should snitch.” (68:52)

• Peach supports the notion, emphasizing the importance of a peaceful living environment:

  “I agree. You should keep home peaceful.” (69:21)

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6. Nostalgia for Old Phones and Ringtones

A nostalgic look at the evolution of phone technology and ringtones sparks a lively discussion between Mal and Peach.

• Mal reminisces about the uniqueness of old ringtones and the simplicity of early mobile phones:

  “I had Rough Riders Anthem. I was like, this is the funniest I've ever...” (39:23)

• Peach shares her fondness for the customization of old phones:

  “We should bring ringtones back. That was a cool feature.” (32:27)

They debate the practicality and sentimentality of modern versus classic phone features, reflecting on how technology shapes personal interactions.

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7. Biases in Hip-Hop: An Open Discussion

The hosts delve into a candid conversation about their personal biases within the hip-hop community, touching on regional preferences and artist reputations.

• Peach admits a strong preference for New York rappers:

  “I'm always gonna say from the 70s to 2024, New York has the best rappers ever in the history of hip hop.” (73:10)

• Mal acknowledges his biases and discusses the challenges of maintaining objectivity:

  “I have a Lauryn Hill bias... Lauryn Hill can do no wrong in your eyes.” (83:44)

They explore how personal experiences and regional loyalties influence their perceptions of artists, highlighting the complexities of fandom in hip-hop.

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8. Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Mal and Peach share their excitement for upcoming live events in London and tease future content.

• Peach promotes their upcoming show:

  “Tickets are still available now at newroarimal.com. Hope to see some of y'all there.” (92:16)

• They discuss attending performances by artists like Earl Sweatshirt and their plans to visit Rap City:

  “We're gonna see Alchemist Rock. Marcy, I'm excited to see.” (92:35)

The episode concludes with humorous anecdotes and a lighthearted sign-off, reinforcing the hosts' camaraderie and connection with their audience.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Mal on Biases:

  “I have a Lauryn Hill bias.” (83:44)

• Peach on New York Rappers:

  “I'm always gonna say from the 70s to 2024, New York has the best rappers ever in the history of hip hop.” (73:10)

• Mal on Super Bowl Halftime Show:

  “Wayne's content, Wayne's language, Wayne, like, this is for the super bowl halftime show is for real Middle America.” (19:18)

• Peach on "Raw Dogged Flight":

  “But why was it a psych to challenge? Because that's psychopathic behavior and they do.” (02:55)

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Conclusion

Episode 303 of "New Rory & MAL" offers listeners a rich tapestry of discussions that blend humor, personal stories, and critical analysis. From dissecting the suitability of artists for major platforms like the Super Bowl to reflecting on the nostalgic elements of past technologies, Mal and Peach provide an engaging and insightful conversation that resonates with both avid fans and casual listeners alike. Their candid exploration of personal biases within the hip-hop landscape adds depth to the dialogue, making this episode a standout installment in the series.

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For more episodes and updates, visit newroarimal.com.

Transcript

[Rory]

No warrior planes just landed Heathrow hop off the G fold standard we see a up, it's cheat code we blow his top now he's volcanic Please don't panic over my lingo Both of my feet so planted, go ahead and ring on my finger but yet I'm still killing him single handed Drum on a gun like I'm Ringo I'm in this bitch with no chain like I'm Django we from the ends where they know that they can't go she go both ways so I'm tasting a rainbow Yummy. They got no more bread, they're crummy the same way that Mello was staring at Bria Is the way that I stare at the money I'm ready to risk it all if I lift it bet I won't miss it. You a statistic Thought was sweet till we popped up and popped off the top of your mystic I go ballistic Popped out the drop, got the drop on the up Now I'm opportunistic I like to shop in the district Copping this company I'm proper capitalistic Dreamer, dreamer Running a game in my signature trainers Balenciaga for joggers I might just wear crops at the O2 Arena Splendid, got no limits, should have a tank on my pendant globes going broke trying to keep up with CO But I make it back soon as I spend it Mayback tinted Excuse me, sir, but ain't that rented? I'm offended. Straight cash for my business. We don't pay back interest Aim at fences when I swing Pay respects and kiss my ring. Even Elizabeth said I'm king.

[Mal]

Well, he's bloody well right, isn't he?

[Rory]

Why would I choose between this one or that one when I know that I can have both? I laugh at these rappers for cap. And I guess CIP ain't the only one out here with jokes. Mans don't want smoke.

[Mal]

I just don't understand. I don't even think they should be.

[Rory]

Allowed to breathe the same air as him.

[Peach]

If you ask me, I'm in London. I like to go and shop at the mall. Shop at the Prada, shop at the store.

[Mal]

We are live from across the pond. Yeah, Live from the city that destroyed my ancestors.

[Peach]

That's why I love being here.

[Mal]

Can feel my oppression.

[Peach]

Yeah, I just love when we land in London. Like, you get this, like, aura about you, where you just, like your history starts to, like, seep through your pores.

[Mal]

It's a recycled joke, but it's the only city I can feel like an oppressed man.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

Good to see the only place. How does it feel a white Irishman can feel?

[Peach]

See, in America, I feel like that every day. Know what I mean? Now I get to see you feel like.

[Mal]

Yeah, except there's really like no effect here. For me, you in America's a little different. That's so.

[Peach]

That's so inappropriate. Like we shouldn't be joking about stuff like that. But you almost have to.

[Mal]

But if you talk to like older Irish people, they will definitely throw a. Hey, we were slaves too out there.

[Peach]

To try to make you feel better.

[Mal]

A little different.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's like, nah, not really, but okay.

[Mal]

Six hour flight. Yeah. I don't know if you know because we were in different rows, but I raw dogged the six hour flight.

[Peach]

Oh, you didn't have a mask.

[Mal]

No. But I don't know if you know the trend online right now what raw dogging a flight is. You literally just have to stare at the seat in front of you. No phone, no book, no electronics, no music, no food, no drinks. You just stare directly. But in front of you, nothing. You just have to stare.

[Peach]

So you can't sleep?

[Mal]

No, of course not.

[Peach]

But who started this and why?

[Mal]

Somebody on TikTok.

[Peach]

But why was it a psych to challenge? Because that's psychopathic behavior and they do.

[Mal]

A time lapse and you can watch them for six hours just stare at their phone.

[Peach]

So I put my phone in front of me on a six hour or however many hour flight.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

And just stare at it.

[Mal]

I'm not sure what the record is yet, but I think someone did like a 14 hour flight.

[Peach]

Yeah. These are the people we need to like, not have a society. Anybody that could do that, like, that's the person I don't want to sit next to.

[Mal]

That would be very odd. You would think that they're probably about to commit a terrorist act. You're just sitting there, like with your eyes.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like why? See, you said raw dog and I thought you meant without. Because ever since COVID I really like feel like we should have been wearing masks on flight before. On flight before COVID because it just feels disgusting. People coughing, you breathing the same air. I know they say it's filtered and all of this, but I don't believe that.

[Mal]

Me and Peej were talking behind your back when you were asleep with your mask on. Like, this guy's not a Trump supporter. Fraud.

[Peach]

What?

[Mal]

Wearing a mask on a flight, I.

[Peach]

Can understand if I'm outside walking around, that's different. But on a flight, I thought you.

[Mal]

Was with the right.

[Peach]

Nah, man. On the flight. It just feels. It feels weird on a flight. I think I'll never go back to not wearing a mask on a flight.

[Mal]

According to the right. Wearing a mask is pretty much the same as Nazi Germany.

[Peach]

On a flight, though.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I gotta understand.

[Mal]

Don't tread on me.

[Peach]

Because I see people outside walking around and I'm just like, what is that about? Like, come on. I think we're past that.

[Mal]

But what started the mask? Sars.

[Peach]

I don't. I'm not that old. I know you think we're both.

[Mal]

First of all, I'm old enough to remember SARS.

[Peach]

When was SARS? In the 90s.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

Even early 2000. I remember when.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

And I'm not making like a racial joke. I remember when Chinese people were walking around with the masks in the city. Well, they've been doing the sars.

[Peach]

Yeah, They've been doing that in their country for years.

[Mal]

I never met anyone with sars. That was like anthrax. It was like you just kind of heard about it.

[Peach]

Have you ever met anybody with COVID Yeah, me.

[Mal]

We're like three fucking times. I got the test. I felt it. See, you're not going to trick me.

[Peach]

All right.

[Mal]

I'm sorry, but all right. So I was in the middle of trying to raw dog the flight. Only made it to the tarmac, like from leaving the gate. I was like, this is the stupidest trend I've ever.

[Peach]

I'm not. I don't even know why you would even try to like get on board with that. That's just dumb.

[Mal]

So I sat next to Peej and I woke up from like a quick nap. We were like an hour out from London. And, you know, you just be looking around. Yeah, I look at Peach's screen. Not like I was snooping, but you know, it's right in front of my face. Yeah, he was listening to Eminem. Kim on a flight. I'm not making that up. This is not a bit. I just looked over and Peej was just bumping Kim.

[Peach]

This is why I'm glad I slept the whole flight. Because these are the things I don't want to see and learn about my friends. Like, I don't want to know that you're listening to Kim on a flight to London. Like, why are you listening to that?

[Mal]

I was between Peach and Benner.

[Peach]

Middle seat, nasty.

[Mal]

It was a weird combo. I slept the whole flight, crushing wine at fucking 6am and then peej listening to Kim. I'm like, I'm Just going to watch Goodfellas in peace, man. I'm face forward.

[Peach]

So I'm glad I slept the whole flight. See things like that. It's just weird. I don't want to know that my friends are doing dumb shit on the flight.

[Mal]

Did you, were you able to eat? I didn't see any.

[Peach]

I slept the entire flight from before we took off till about 20 minutes before we landed. I slept.

[Mal]

So what was that like with the adjustment? Cause I'm glad I only did a quick.

[Peach]

It wasn't too bad.

[Mal]

Cause when we landed I knocked the fuck out.

[Peach]

I mean when we got in, we got in about probably 8:00, 8:00pm and by the time we got to the hotel it was a little after 10. And I was gonna go to Benny. Benny had a show when we got in, so I was texting him. I was gonna try to make it didn't make that. He had an after party. Then I was like, you know what, I should go to the after party, try to keep myself up and you know what I'm saying? Not go to sleep. To kind of adjust to the time difference a little bit. Didn't happen. I ordered some food, I saw Peej in the hallway. I went, took a shower, ate, and I just laid in the bed till probably about 4 in the morning.

[Mal]

Was Peej just like in the hallway or. He was like on the move.

[Peach]

He did the same. He was chilling. He had picked up some food from downstairs. Same thing I was doing. And I thought about going to the after party. I was just like standing around with rappers and smoke and just talk and just. I was like. Or take a shower and watch TV and lay down. I'd rather take a shower.

[Mal]

Yeah, I knocked and last night we went out for a bit. We did Ace's show, which is I think coming out this coming week. It's out now.

[Peach]

Yes.

[Mal]

Listening to this shout out. Tight.

[Peach]

DJ Ace. That's my guy.

[Mal]

Tight. When I woke up this morning, man, boss texted me like, yo, you out here? I looked at his story. There was Everyday People last night. But instead I went on a double date with you and Benner to talk about who controls the Federal Reserve instead.

[Peach]

And you told me that. And I was like, so we could have went to every Everyday People last night.

[Mal]

It looked amazing. It looked like there was beautiful women, curly head women everywhere. They were swag, surf.

[Peach]

Seriously, how did we not hear about that?

[Mal]

Because I tried to tell myself that I was gonna have a calm London trip. Because the last two London trips I think we went a Little too far.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And I didn't want to be, you know, get into it with another hotel manager.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

You know what? I'm just gonna have a nice. Just relax. Trips.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

FaceTime. My daughter.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Not even me anymore until I saw those IG stories. And just those old feelings started coming up. Like, why didn't I just go out and be a degenerate withdrawal? Why am I trying to be a family?

[Peach]

You got the shakes. When you started shaking.

[Mal]

When you saw it, the FOMO kicked in like you would not believe. I said, yo, maybe y'all running it back like, no, I want to do it again tonight.

[Peach]

Not running that back at all. I'm mad I missed that. Because that would have been a nice to catch that overhand London to catch that part. That would have been a nice. A nice vibe for sure.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

And it's London. It's our fashion week too, so.

[Mal]

And I saw you. You. You were hitting the red wine last night. I'm shocked to see you here today.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Listen, I thought you're over would be a whole different level.

[Peach]

So we were drinking some wine last night. We went to go eat. And because where we. We were so close to the hotel. I walked back. But then it was like really close. I was like, let me just keep walking. So I started walking. I just was like. But I didn't. I didn't veer off. I said, let me just walk this street as far down. Then I started journeying.

[Mal]

Your headphones.

[Peach]

Oh, my God. I started. So that's what. Really? Yeah. Like on top of the red wine, I smoked. By the time I walked back to the hotel, I was like, yeah, I did too much, man. And this morning, forget about it. I almost canceled this morning. I'm not gonna lie.

[Mal]

I text Benner at like 5am Because I couldn't sleep. And I was like, yo, the way Maul was drinking red wine, there's no way we're recording.

[Peach]

Yeah, I was hurt getting. And I stayed up till probably about 7:45. Cause I watched the Canelo fight and it was in Vegas, so that's eight hours behind. So. So it's 11 o'clock in Vegas, where it's like seven in the morning here. I was like, oh, man, what am I doing?

[Mal]

But I started plotting with Benner. I was thinking like, all right, maybe Monday, because we're recording this on a Sunday. I was like, Monday, maybe we could double up on episodes.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

There was no way I thought you were making it to the lobby once I saw you this morning.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

At the coffee spot. I was like, ain't no way he's here.

[Peach]

Once I. Once I got up and got in the shower, I was like, all right, cool. I felt a little better. I drank. I had a pack of BC powder.

[Mal]

That helps.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah. So I drank some of that. I had a bunch of water and I was. I was all right. I was hurting by the time I got downstairs, but I had some peppermint tea, so it's all good. I actually saw. Interesting. I saw my first. I saw the first person since we've been in London the past three years. I saw a football jersey for the first time.

[Mal]

Really?

[Peach]

Yes.

[Mal]

Wait, wait, like a.

[Peach]

Not soccer, which is why they call football there, but like, not a soccer.

[Mal]

NFL.

[Peach]

NFL. I saw somebody wearing an NFL jersey for the first time in London last night.

[Mal]

I feel like last time we were here, didn't we go to, like, who.

[Peach]

Do you think the player was, though, that he was wearing?

[Mal]

Brady Mahomes, Newton, Michael Vick.

[Peach]

That's a sick jersey.

[Mal]

It was probably the biggest selling jersey at one point.

[Peach]

No, he had a Lamar Jackson jersey on.

[Mal]

Okay. Like, that's big from Baltimore, though.

[Peach]

No, he was here. He's from here.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Peach]

Yeah. But that was just dope to see Lamar Jackson jersey all the way here in London. And that was fire. That. That lets you know exactly how good Lamar Jackson is.

[Mal]

Outside of still not being to a soccer slash football game out here. I would love to see an NFL game in London.

[Peach]

Well, they had one. Was it last year? They had the preseason here, I think.

[Mal]

Yeah, I think they do it every year, I think.

[Peach]

Yeah, I think they had a preseason game here last year.

[Mal]

I wonder, is that ever going to connect? There's American bars that we've went to when we were out here to watch football. And they were pretty packed, but it was all like Americans that moved here for work.

[Peach]

Yeah. I don't know if it'll ever translate over here as much. Cause I think soccer. Well, with the. London, you know, the local UK people call football, I think that's just.

[Mal]

That's the rest of the world, you mean?

[Peach]

Well, yeah, yeah, the rest of the world.

[Mal]

Just us.

[Peach]

Just us. Call it football, but I. Soccer is such a. It's more of a. Football is fun to watch, but I feel like soccer is, you know, the fans, it's just different with the. With the.

[Mal]

It's a lifestyle.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

It's like they make Raiders fans look like pussies.

[Peach]

We're recording this today, and I'm mad we're not catching The Art. Arsenal, Tottenham game. Because that was, like. That was the game that I wanted to see.

[Mal]

The way, like, certain parties at this point in my life where I'm like, there's probably gang members there. I'm not really gonna go. I, like, value my life. I wouldn't go to an Arsenal game out of fear of violence.

[Peach]

No, but that's what we.

[Mal]

I just wouldn't even want to say that wrong thing.

[Peach]

No, but we need it, though. We need to go out there, let's take our shirts off, let's crush beer cans on our head. Like, let's do. Let's do it as a. Wankers. Wankers. Is that what they say? Wankers. Wankers.

[Mal]

I would feel like that annoying girl that's watching football with you, like, asking questions like, okay, oh, yeah, I'm definitely that guy.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would be that guy at the soccer game, for sure. Like, they would be telling me.

[Mal]

They would look over at me and say, who brought this broad? Like, no, I'm. I'm a boy. I'm a boy.

[Peach]

I'm so. I had so many plans to, like, really just go crazy at my first, like, soccer game. Man. I'm so mad that we. We missed it.

[Mal]

Yeah. I would have asked stupid questions like, does Ronaldo still play?

[Peach]

See? Nah, you can't. That you can't do. You can't do that. Not an Arsenal game. No, don't do that.

[Mal]

And what's. It's Arsenal. What's the other. Chelsea's the other big one. They're gonna kill us on the way out of here.

[Peach]

I don't know.

[Mal]

I can already tell the engineer wants to punch me in the face.

[Peach]

What is the other team out here? It's Arsenal.

[Mal]

It's Chelsea, Manchester United. Right?

[Peach]

Yeah. London.

[Mal]

What's the team? Ted Lasso, coach. Oh.

[Peach]

He said that's not a real team. West Ham. Okay. All right. Austin was the team, though. Okay.

[Mal]

Did you ever watch Ted Lasso?

[Peach]

No.

[Mal]

You should start it, like, today. It's one of those shows. I feel like TV is in the best place it's ever been, but everything is so dark and, like, everything has to take some crazy turn.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Ted Lasso just makes you feel good. Like, I miss. It's not a sitcom, obviously, but it has that sitcom shit where everything's going to work out, everyone's going to smile, there's going to be a message.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

There won't be. Everyone that did bad will pay for it. Everyone that did good will be praised.

[Peach]

Yeah, It's.

[Mal]

I miss tv. Like that sometimes as much as I am a murder mystery, everything dark type of person. That show, like, gives you hope for humanity.

[Peach]

Is that, like.

[Mal]

It's just. It's a stupid plot to begin with. It's a football. American football coach that moves to the UK to become a soccer coach because they're trying to tank, like, the whole organization.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

But of course, he ends up inspiring the entire city of London and becomes the greatest soccer coach ever.

[Peach]

That sounds like a great plot. Definitely fictional, but it sounds like a great place. Yeah.

[Mal]

But you should definitely start it.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Trying to think Manchester United, because I have cousins in Ireland. They were big Manchester United fans, but I don't know if that's, like, okay to say. I don't know what set. They really claim it. Yeah. I don't want to say.

[Peach]

I think. I think you got to claim Arsenal, though. I think it's. I think that's, like, mandatory.

[Mal]

I guess so.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I don't know.

[Peach]

From what I'm seeing, like, it's Arsenal. It's Red or nothing. Like, that's just some girl told me last night, red till I die. I was like, okay. I didn't know it was that they.

[Mal]

Got Pirus out here.

[Peach]

Yeah. I was like, I didn't know it was that intense out here, but okay, cool.

[Mal]

I was in the Uber with Peach on the way here. London's confusing. London reminds me of dc, where, like, you're not quite sure if you're in the hood yet. Of course, D.C. has, like, you know when you're in the hood, but there's, like, tricky blocks in dc, London, I'm. Even their projects, like, have charm.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I never know if I'm in the hood.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because I know it gets busy out here.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I just don't want to go down the wrong block thinking everything like, oh, look at the architecture. Like, not section eight.

[Peach]

Yeah. Keep walking. Go ahead. Go in there and ask them how they doing.

[Mal]

And me and Peas were in the cars. Like, these look. I guess look a little projecty. And right on the side, it said Queensbridge. And I was like, oh, they have one here, too.

[Peach]

It's a Queensbridge out here.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Not Queensbridge projects.

[Mal]

It was a project building that said Queensbridge on it. I promise you.

[Peach]

You didn't take a picture of it?

[Mal]

Nah, we were driving.

[Peach]

I got to see that. I have to see that. That's crazy.

[Mal]

But London, with the amount of similarities with, like, street names and areas, it will put you down a bad rabbit hole. I'm not going to put mine yeah, it's unfolding.

[Peach]

Add on, but please don't.

[Mal]

It's just weird.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Okay. These are named the same. Why are they named this way? Oh, that guy.

[Peach]

Yeah, same person.

[Mal]

What did he do? How do you get a street here and there?

[Peach]

Yeah. When you really go down to history, it's nasty.

[Mal]

I thought the Pilgrims left here and, like, formed some new shit. It's Westminster here and there.

[Peach]

Absolutely. It's the same. But we always talk about every time we come, it's always dope to see exactly how similar New York and London and all those. Like, it's almost scary how similar it is.

[Mal]

I mean, same roots.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Protestants versus Christians, you know, it's the same shit.

[Peach]

How about Lil Wayne? Because I see where you going. Once I see you start blinking and you start turning red. You going on this rabbit hole that I don't want to go down with you.

[Mal]

I told you I would move here. It's just, it. It frustrates me.

[Peach]

I wouldn't move here, though. I could definitely live in London.

[Mal]

Oh, me and Keith, we're looking at schools.

[Peach]

People. People always talk about the weather. I'm like, bro, being from New York.

[Mal]

This is my type of weather. Overcast every day. Great.

[Peach]

Yeah. Well, you ginger folk, y'all can't do the sunshine too much, so you'll love it here.

[Mal]

It doesn't.

[Peach]

Here in Seattle is where you want to be.

[Mal]

It doesn't blow your mind, like, how this small island's like, what they did to the world. Like, you know how small this place is.

[Peach]

I tried to get. I tried to get you away from this. Let's not. We're not doing this today. I don't want to do this with you today.

[Mal]

Why not?

[Peach]

I want to talk about Little Wayne. That's what I want to talk about. Can we talk about Wayne?

[Mal]

Have you been in New London, Connecticut?

[Peach]

No.

[Mal]

It's definitely not. Not new. This isn't a new one. I'm sure York and New York have at least some similarities. London, Connecticut. Not even. Not even tiny bit. But Wayne, the Super Bowl.

[Peach]

Yes. Lil Wayne. So Lil Wayne, he finally spoke out. He posted a response to him not being named the Super Bowl 59 performer. Did you see it?

[Mal]

I did.

[Peach]

What did you think about it?

[Mal]

He's one of my goats, so I'm trying to be kind with my words.

[Peach]

Try to be kind. You don't got to say nothing crazy. Just.

[Mal]

I'm not going. I mean, I love Wayne, but why?

[Peach]

Why did he post a response? Yeah, I mean, I.

[Mal]

Well, I understand. He Was saying a lot, has to put himself back together.

[Peach]

Yeah. The Internet was saying a lot. And, you know, I think that he had to say something. Whatever it was. The one thing about his video that I thought was missing and you know, obviously Wayne is. He's a goat. We love him. You know, he's one of the biggest.

[Mal]

You know, get your pre shit out, too.

[Peach]

No, no, no. I don't have nothing crazy to say, but the one thing that I thought was missing from the video that he posted was just congratulating Kendrick. To me, I thought that was the one that was kind of like, okay, because we don't. You know, we. You can have. You can have your feelings. Wayne not making it, which we laughed at just because it was like. Because it was in New Orleans, it should have been Lil Wayne. Like, if it's in the Giant stadium next year, is Cameron supposed to do the halftime show?

[Mal]

Absolutely.

[Peach]

I don't get it, but I can understand how some people felt the way about that. But that was the only thing I felt like what was missing from Wayne's video was just congratulating Kendrick because Kendrick obviously has voiced his love and his. His. His admiration for Wayne over the years.

[Mal]

Uh, I felt like that was influence.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Early Kendrick.

[Peach]

I felt like that was the only thing that was missing. I don't. I don't think it was purposely done. I don't think Wayne was trying to slight Kendrick in any way. I think he was more so expressing his. His feelings on not being a pick. But, I mean, I just the. That whole thing, and I didn't expect for people to kind of like, you know, drag this thing on of Wayne not being named the performer for so, so long. It's been, like, probably a week now. Um, but can we just be honest? Like, I. I would. I would. What. What do we feel like Wayne's set would have been like? What would he be performing at the Super. Because we could be honest. Wayne's content. Wayne's language. Wayne, like, this is for the super bowl halftime show is for real Middle America. You know what I mean? It's that type of sporting event. Obviously, we all sit and watch it. But for Wayne to come out on the super bowl halftime show, what would he perform like? We know Wayne's catalog. We know his verses. Wayne be saying crazy. And you can't have that type of content. For families sitting around a television during the super bowl watching that, like, whoever.

[Mal]

Would have to edit in real time. It would be a nightmare.

[Peach]

This is what I'm saying. So, you know, and People like, yeah, he could have brought out, you know, the hot boys. I'm like, have y'all heard their catalog? Like, what do we. What are we really talking? Like, we gotta. The Super Bowl. You have to have a certain type of catalog, a certain type of performance level to make it on that stage that big. And we love Wayne, but I love Wayne as much as I love Jadakiss, as much as I love Styles, as much as I love Cam Mace. But none of them will ever get a Super bowl halftime show, and I think that's okay.

[Mal]

I think it's part of a medley of other artists. I feel like. I feel like if Mariah Carey did halftime, like, Kiss and Styles could come out for something for their record with her.

[Peach]

Yeah, cool. I'm just talking about, like, headlining.

[Mal]

It's. It's not like.

[Peach]

It's not the. Wayne doesn't have the content. It's the. That type of content is not super bowl stage. Like, they're not gonna have that at the Super Bowl.

[Mal]

That's why. And I promise, this is not Kendrick hate. I'm curious what his set is going to be, which we've talked about the same to your Wayne point. I'm very curious what Kendrick is gonna do. Like, even when they had the first, like, real rap shit with Dr. Dre and friends, people underestimate what Gin and Juice is to even middle America. Like, my parents know Gin and Juice. My parents know in the club by 50 cent. My parents know what's the B Rabbit, Lose Yourself. Like, those are all middle America rap songs that they had to put together. I'm. I love that Kendrick is going to get this opportunity. I'm just curious what his set would be the same way it would be with Wayne.

[Peach]

But Kendrick's set, we know, is a safer set than Wayne.

[Mal]

Yeah, for sure.

[Peach]

And that's the only thing that I think people are skipping over. It's just the content, bro.

[Mal]

It's the songs he's also put together. And it's not a slight swing like real shows. Wayne has never really done that per se. We talked about the Mr. Morale shit. She was like a Broadway play. Like, he's put together performances. Even his. His set during the Dr. Dre thing, to me, had the best choreography, was the best put together. I mean, I love that 50 took one for the team and was upside down to do his whole verse at his age. I appreciated that. But by far, Kendrick had the most interest, for sure. Anything. He knows how to, like, really put a performance together. Wayne just. We've Never seen that from him. I don't think he's ever had to do that. Not to say he couldn't, but to do that for the first time in super bowl wouldn't really make sense.

[Peach]

And then on a stage that, like, that big, like, that's just a. That's asking a lot for somebody that. And again, there's notes like, Dwayne, we know Wayne is cemented as a goat, but I just think that, you know, we have a few artists in our culture and a few goats that we just have to be realistic about and say that, bro, they're never gonna call you for that stage because you know what you're saying in your verses and your rhymes, it's just not.

[Mal]

Say it's not deserving, but it's just not.

[Peach]

It's not for that. It's not for that state. And that doesn't change anything for his legacy. Like, of course, that's probably on his list of things. Yeah, like that he's definitely not defined by. That may be a personal goal of his to make it to headline an event that big, but you know, when you start combing through of the set that you think he would perform, you listen to those songs, the edit button, you know, it's just like, well, what do we. Like we won't even hear none of the verse. Like, they'll edit everything out. So it just didn't make sense. But, you know, I'm glad that he did address it. I'm glad Wayne did address it.

[Mal]

Well, let's. Let's keep ourselves honest. We. We kind of took away from Kendrick's moment. Everyone kind of just forgot to be like, yo, this is amazing that Kendrick Lamar as a rapper is headlining the super bowl by itself. I mean, not. Not to say we just added in the Drake thing, but it was a conversation at the time because Kendrick was alluding to the beef in the promo. Like the whole promo. So to not bring up Drake in that conversation was crazy. And then I feel like for the whole week, I don't feel like we're dragging it. I feel like the rest of the world is just based off one comment that you made in a 45 minute conversation. The amount of people that wanted you to be wrong, I've never seen. I've seen hate before, but like, I could feel it from the IP addresses in their soul that they wanted you to be wrong so badly. Because Bloomberg, one of the most trustworthy men on earth.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Some writer who couldn't even find spell check put out that he had talked to sources. Blatant lie. What Mall said his sources at the NFL. And everyone's like, see, Roger Goodell said it.

[Peach]

Like, he didn't say that.

[Mal]

Did you not read the spelling mistake article that was, you know, those red squiggly lines that means it's spelled wrong?

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, again, and that's something that I didn't, you know, I didn't think that that would, you know, cause the. The turmoil that it caused. I tweeted that was just incomplete.

[Mal]

Why do y'all care about this?

[Peach]

Yeah, it didn't. And. But again, you know, I get it because of the time we're in and what's going on, the moment, everything around it. So I understand it. But, you know, for people to still be running with that and saying, oh, it's not true. He never got a halftime show invite. If you feel like that, I mean, cool, man. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. If you feel like one of the biggest artists, they never asked him to do that. All right, cool. What are we talking about? I'm not going back and forth about it, but I didn't mean to say that. And kind of like, you know, take away from the fact that Kendra got the spot, that's not what that was intended to do.

[Mal]

And I mean, people took. Took a 45 second clip from a 45 minute conversation that just happened to be in there. But I get it. You have the stigma of being Drake's man, so they're all gonna run with it on the Internet. But even it's cool. I saw other media people saying there's no way the NFL would ask an artist twice. The NFL don't work that way. All right, Rihanna turned it down. Then she did it.

[Peach]

They asked.

[Mal]

That's on record.

[Peach]

They asked Adele, and she still hasn't done it. Like, so it's, you know, I mean.

[Mal]

Like, plenty of artists that have turned it down and then went back.

[Peach]

Right? It happens. I mean, you know, I didn't think that was a big deal. But again, you know, the fact that Kendrick is doing it is dope. The first rapper to headline it. Do you.

[Mal]

Do you want to say thank you to Elliot Wilson? Cause that was like, when we was on the phone, Elliot thought I was capping.

[Peach]

He said he thought I was. Yeah. When I landed, when I landed, when I landed, somebody had hit me. I'm not saying who. Somebody had hit me and said, yo, I'm surprised that Elliot held you down. And I was like, so Drake Hit you? I was like. I was like, what happened? I was like, what happened?

[Mal]

So Drake hit you?

[Peach]

I was like. I was like, what happened? And he was like, no, he held you down. So I didn't know at first because I, Like, I slept the whole fight. So then I saw Elliot say he thought I was capping and his sources.

[Mal]

But, see, you don't understand because you were asleep most of the flight. Like, in between watching Peach listen to the entire Eminem show. Back to front.

[Peach]

Crazy, crazy playlist for a flight.

[Mal]

I had WI fi. So for about four hours, the entire world was like, C. Maul's the biggest fucking liar ever. Like, my mentions were going nuts. Like, this the least credible podcast of all time. And Elliot was like, yeah, I know for a fact he at least turned it down twice while HOV was in there. And hov's been there for five years. And views Drake definitely got to offer.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, 100%. That's why I'm. You know, again, it's just. I don't know, man. I guess people, you know, because of the moment, they try to discredit. And I understand. I understand what's going on, but I just don't get why people just find that so hard to believe. It's just insane to me.

[Mal]

I have a really, like, really corny question. I apologize for corniness that's about to insist.

[Peach]

I appreciate that.

[Mal]

What? Do you have Drake saved, as in your phone? It can't just be Drake. No, like, but what. Drizz.

[Peach]

No big A. Big A.

[Mal]

His name's Aubrey.

[Peach]

You think. You think I would save him as a big A in my name?

[Mal]

That's better than the boy.

[Peach]

No, no. I only. So I don't have him saved as Drake, because one time I had one of my boys that was in the NBA at the time, I had his name saved in my phone. His full name, and not his full name, but a girl went in my phone and took his phone number and then, like, hit him up. And I was like, how did. Cause he hit me. He was like, how? She got my number? I was like, she could have only went in my phone and got it.

[Mal]

I had. This was like, 09. I had Charles Hamilton's number because I was, like, trying to book gigs at St. Peter's and one of my friends took my phone, took his number down and just kept calling him.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I was like, all right, fair.

[Peach]

Yeah. That's why you gotta have code names for, you know, people that somebody might see in your phone and might try to take. Which Is weird for somebody.

[Mal]

Charles kept answering. I was like, wow, this guy never blocks a call. Like, he just. He just kept answering. Like, concerned, too. Like, why you keep calling me? Is everything okay?

[Peach]

Why would you call it back to back like that?

[Mal]

And for what? Not make beats.

[Peach]

What do you want to talk to Charles Ham?

[Mal]

My man made beefs. He wanted to give Charleston.

[Peach]

So just keep.

[Mal]

I was like, yo, you know he makes his own beast, right?

[Peach]

He don't even know you from nowhere. You trying to push beats on Charles Hamilton. He don't even know you at all. That's crazy.

[Mal]

But imagine, like, that would be the coolest placement, I feel like, of all time. If you just, like, cold called a rapper because your man said a number. It's like, yo, hear this beat? And it was like, NASA, car. What's your name?

[Peach]

What's your name? Which is not how you got my number. What's your name?

[Mal]

Yeah, like, that's all right.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your email Send me that. That's kind of hard.

[Mal]

Oh, man, I miss my old phone book.

[Peach]

I'm.

[Mal]

I'm mad. I went through, like, 10 numbers because I have, like, old.

[Peach]

Just funny, my number has been the same for over 16 years.

[Mal]

Probably I've changed mine a lot.

[Peach]

Why?

[Mal]

Social recycling.

[Peach]

Like, people you don't want to have.

[Mal]

Yeah, just. Just need.

[Peach]

I thought about that.

[Mal]

Just to get people out of your life.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, I thought about that, but. Nah, I think I like. I like still having the same number and people that know you don't like with them anymore. Like, they know that your number's still the same, but they know they can't hit your phone. Like, I like that.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

I mean, I'm weird like that, though.

[Mal]

But I don't understand some people, how they have, like, a new number every other day. I. I could never think of that way.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's just. That's weirdo.

[Mal]

No. Well, that's some famous people. I'm sure that's not Drake's high school number.

[Peach]

Well, I'm sorry.

[Mal]

Champagne's.

[Peach]

We. We know that. No, definitely not somebody like that. But I don't. I don't see why people keep, like, why would you keep changing your number? Like, I'm talking about regular people, not no celebrities.

[Mal]

I mean, back in the day, like, minutes ran out. Had to throw that phone. Just keep the SIM card.

[Peach]

Oh, it was a prepaid. Honesty. I'm talking about. No, I'm talking about this is your line. Like, this is your phone number. Not a. Not a burnout. Not A prepaid.

[Mal]

Then, like, I. I went to college with a flip phone and everyone there had Sidekicks, so I felt left out. But then the BlackBerry Curve came out, and I bought it from somebody for like $60.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

And just kept a number.

[Peach]

Kept their number.

[Mal]

Yeah. I didn't really. Like, this is 08. It was different.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

Like, I was for 80 cash. Like, I have that shit.

[Peach]

Yeah. Right now.

[Mal]

And it had Jim Jones, Kid Cudi, Day and night. Remix was the ringtone, and I didn't know how to change it.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

And that shit just rang off. And he was popular too. Like, I should have thought about that first. If I'm keeping this guy's number. And why. I also never realized, why did you give me your phone with that number? And why was it $60 for a BlackBerry Curve? At that time, he had to get the fuck out of Dodge.

[Peach]

He had problems. He had troubles that was following him. And he had go to school.

[Mal]

My parents introduced me to him. He was a local.

[Peach]

He got rid of everything. Like, yo, take this phone. $60 is yours. He was definitely on the run for sure.

[Mal]

Should we bring ringtones back?

[Peach]

We should. Man, ringtones was dope.

[Mal]

Can iPhones do that ringtone?

[Peach]

Yeah, I mean, you could change.

[Mal]

Keep my phone on loud.

[Peach]

You could change the ringtone on your. Your iPhone, but it's not like, obviously you know a song, but they should bring that back. That was a cool feature.

[Mal]

I forgot what producer it was.

[Peach]

Like, when is the feature going kick in for the Instagram where you can add the music to your page? Like your.

[Mal]

Oh, the MySpace shit.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like, when does that start?

[Mal]

Maybe you got to hit. Just upgrade it. It might be there now. We just.

[Peach]

I've never seen. I've never seen nobody's. It's not on anybody's page yet.

[Mal]

Yeah, that's gonna.

[Peach]

But that's the feature we need. That's. I'm looking forward to that.

[Mal]

But is it. Will it be copyright? Like, does it have to come from DSPs? Like, could I put my mixtape up there?

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. See now this is so much. It's so much in the game now. I didn't even think about that.

[Mal]

I mean, I could hit Charles Hamilton, maybe get, like, some exclusives to put.

[Peach]

Up there from Charles in 2024.

[Mal]

Let me see if I still have that.

[Peach]

There's no way that number still works. If you call Charles Hamilton phone right.

[Mal]

Now, it's not even in his phone. That was so many phones ago.

[Peach]

If you answer right now, like, it's like, I why are you still.

[Mal]

I was a big Charles Hamilton fan.

[Peach]

Oh, no, Charles was dope.

[Mal]

He was one of those where, like, he's. He's next. He's about to be on somebody type. Even Jimmy Iovine was. Yeah, you about to be the one.

[Peach]

You think he was. You think Charles was ahead of his time, though? Like, I think if. If Charles had that. That moment that he had back then, now I think it would be a big moment for.

[Mal]

I mean, he was. He was on the blogs early.

[Peach]

Like. Yeah.

[Mal]

Writing as a blogger. Like, he had his own. Everything that the rappers are doing now, Charles Hamilton did first for sure. Even sound wise. I think his own demons is really what got in the way.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Of that.

[Peach]

It's unfortunate, but.

[Mal]

Yeah, you probably remember I was listening to it's the Reals Blog Era podcast. If you guys haven't heard that, listen to it now. Hit pause on podcast and start that. Yeah, I forgot who was talking. It was one of the later episodes. Charles Hamilton was obviously a big part of the blog era podcast because he was the blogger for sure. And he went to Jimmy Iovine with his first album, and Jimmy Iovine was like, this is the best third album I've ever heard in my entire life. And that blew my mind. He was like, you're too ahead of what's happening right now. This isn't a first album. This is the best third album I've ever heard. Like, get back to the basics. Tell us who you are. Don't experiment. That blew my mind.

[Peach]

That makes a lot of sense, though.

[Mal]

A lot. And then I went back because that album leaked, obviously. And after I listened to It's Surreal, I went back to that album and I was like, this is why Jimmy Iovine is a genius. This sounds like a third album.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, I'm getting into my experience, experimental phase. I already have my fan base and I'm taking them another way.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But yeah, Charles was just demonstration.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's probably. Unfortunately, that's definitely. Probably what it was. But he was. Charles was really. I mean, he was one of the few people that I remember, like, going to YouTube and searching and watching and looking at his videos, like. And I didn't do that a lot for a lot of artists that wasn't like mainstream popping artists. He was one of the ones that if he had a video that he had put on YouTube, like, I would go find it and just listen to what he was doing.

[Mal]

No, absolutely. Brooklyn girls. That shit rang off in the city.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Mal]

Long time. But back to the ringtone thing. It was Flying Lotus that I think mentioned like a few weeks ago that he had something to do with. Fact check the speech. I think it was one of the iPhone ringers that. Two ringtones that the iPhone has that Flying Lotus produced. Like, that's when you find out, like, Pusha T wrote the Arby's shit and the McDonald's. I'm loving it. Flying Lotus is behind some of the ringtones with our iPhone.

[Peach]

Random.

[Mal]

I wonder if like, like he just got a fee for that. I'm sure Apple would never, like, give him royalties anytime.

[Peach]

That definitely did not happen.

[Mal]

But what does that bag look like? Because Flying Lotus obviously is. If you're doing something with him, right, you're paying a fucking premium. That's well deserved because he's one of the best. But I wonder what that looks like. If Apple's like, yo, you got to do this. What type of rate do you have to triple your rate at that point?

[Peach]

Yeah, it's Apple, but. But because it's Apple, you know, there's certain things that they just never budging on. So royalties is out of the question.

[Mal]

I wouldn't even know how you would do royalties on a ringtone for every phone you sell.

[Peach]

That's crazy.

[Mal]

I'm sure Apple would definitely do that deal.

[Peach]

Every phone you sell, I get royalty.

[Mal]

Nah, not even Tim Cook has that.

[Peach]

That's crazy. That's a crazy deal.

[Mal]

But that has to be a bag, though.

[Peach]

Yeah, but there's no way that's figures. Well, definitely. But in the scope of this is Apple. You know what I mean? It's like, what's a bag? When you talking about you produced a ringtone.

[Mal]

That's why you like, hit them over the head because they don't know any better.

[Peach]

And you think Apple doesn't know any.

[Mal]

Better as far as what a producer would cost. Yeah, I guess.

[Peach]

You know who runs Apple? There's a lot of music people up there.

[Mal]

I thought she was going somewhere else. They run. Never mind.

[Peach]

I wasn't going.

[Mal]

All right, Never mind.

[Peach]

I wasn't going. That. That's not where I was taking you. And please don't take me there either.

[Mal]

I had to tell my man to relax on Twitter the other day. I was with you for a while. Let's pull it back.

[Peach]

Oh, my God.

[Mal]

I got a bunch of text messages like, what's up with your man's? I was like, do you not listen to his raps?

[Peach]

Love J Elect man. That's my guy. I love him.

[Mal]

That's another one. See how Many numbers I have on.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't even. He's not even saved in my phone. No. More like he changed his number so much.

[Mal]

How many news does that hit?

[Peach]

New. New, new.

[Mal]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. And this. 13, 14. And this doesn't even count the emails.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, I don't even.

[Mal]

I probably have 18 numbers on him.

[Peach]

Whenever he texts me, he just texts me something random. I know it's him. I'm like, I don't even have to guess who this is. I know exactly who this is. Texting me from a new number for the 12th. I know exactly what it is.

[Mal]

You know that.

[Peach]

Plus, I know exactly who it is.

[Mal]

I gave up on those. I just text his email at this point.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because unless he has WI fi, that's.

[Peach]

My God. I love him, man.

[Mal]

But what would be your ringtone today?

[Peach]

Probably important couches. Larry June. Larry June.

[Mal]

That'd be a good ringtone.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Feel like some Cash Cobain shit would work at this point.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah.

[Mal]

For good. Good ringtone.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I had the first, like, singular Samsung, like that block phone, my freshman year of high school. And they didn't have, like, real ringtones yet. It was just like, the tones.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I had Rough Riders Anthem. I was like, this is the funniest I've ever.

[Peach]

But back then, it was dope.

[Mal]

It was just.

[Peach]

Yeah, it was naturally. It's like, this is the corny.

[Mal]

And some of them were awful. I picked Rough Ryder's Anthem because it was the only one that actually sounded like the song.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

The rest of those.

[Peach]

Were you too young? You didn't have a two way pager?

[Mal]

No.

[Peach]

You didn't have one?

[Mal]

No, no, no.

[Peach]

Yeah, that was the ringtone.

[Mal]

Like, I didn't get a phone till 04.

[Peach]

Yeah. The two way pager was like those ringtones on a two way pager. I remember I had. The one that everybody had was Aaliyah's. It wasn't Rock the Boat. It was the. What was that Aaliyah record that everybody had?

[Mal]

So wait, two way pagers had, like a version of ringtone you could put music on?

[Peach]

Absolutely. Just Blaze, like, he did a lot of ringtones for people because you could send. You could send the ringtone. Yeah. You could put the two ways, you know, facing each other, and you can actually send somebody. You can send your contacts and all that too, but you can also send your.

[Mal]

Okay, that was like.

[Peach]

But yeah, just. Just Blaze was doing. He was making ringtones on the two ways.

[Mal]

You know, it's one of my favorite commercials was ludicrous. Kanye and Game with the next toe. Like, is that a can? Is that song on dsps?

[Peach]

I doubt it.

[Mal]

Whatever the name of that record was, they.

[Peach]

They were rapping on DSPs. No, I doubt it.

[Mal]

I'm sure it's, of course, probably on YouTube.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What do you think was better? That record or Jadakiss Iverson answer commercial? Jada and AI copped the A5. Jada was.

[Peach]

Yeah, Jada kiss. AI one. Everybody commercial. Yeah, that might be. That might be better than that one.

[Mal]

That was up there. The 50 in my hood Reebok commercial. I mean, that ended up on the massacre, but that commercial was crazy. That was like. I could not believe that they. That was the way to present a song at that point.

[Peach]

Like, commercial.

[Mal]

We're gonna actually put this in the commercial, and it's gonna end up my album. That was, like, simple marketing. Look at what you got to do now. Before I was like, all right, we're gonna partner with Reebok, and I'm gonna put the first single in that commercial, and you're gonna hear which is.

[Peach]

Which is fire. That's like a fire way to promote a song.

[Mal]

And then didn't Hove and 50 have a commercial together. They were freestyling. They were both putting out. It was the S. Carters and the G Units. Yeah, they were in the studio rapping back and forth. It was definitely a commercial.

[Peach]

I don't remember that.

[Mal]

It was right when HOV was being petty after Irv signed Nas, and he was like, all right, bet I'll go hang out with 50 Cent then IRV.

[Peach]

I mean, that doesn't sound like crazy, but I don't remember what the commercial looked like.

[Mal]

They were in a studio, like, in the control room, like, rapping back and forth.

[Peach]

Okay, okay, that.

[Mal]

Okay, that was a time.

[Peach]

Some of that is peach.

[Mal]

Can you see anything up there? Yeah. 50 and Jay.

[Peach]

That sounds.

[Mal]

Yeah, they're putting out sneakers at the same time.

[Peach]

They have on, like, a. I don't.

[Mal]

Remember what he was wearing.

[Peach]

I think he may have had a. Like a. Was it like a burgundy track jacket? Was it burger? It was red, yellow, red, yellow, white. Rockefeller. I don't remember that commercial. Wait, so when they were in the same. They weren't in the same commercial?

[Mal]

Like. Yeah, no, it was in the same. Yeah, this right here. We'll put it The. The YouTube.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

[Mal]

It's below us right now. Look at it.

[Peach]

I do remember.

[Mal]

Hopefully don't get flagged we're not gonna play it, but, yeah, they was rapping. I actually feel like I remember 50 might even got him on that.

[Peach]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Mal]

You could kind of tell Hov was actually, like, really freestyle. Like, he showed up that day and was like, all right, what are we doing?

[Peach]

Yeah, that was that Baseline. I do remember that commercial now. Yeah.

[Mal]

I walked past Baseline the other day.

[Peach]

Why?

[Mal]

I was. Think I was leaving a Mars doctor's appointment or something with her, and I was like, let me go down 26 to 27, whatever it was.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And, you know, show tomorrow. It's like, yo, this. This was it. I feel like, as a father, that's.

[Peach]

Like, you held up, like, simple.

[Mal]

Like, my dad showed me things that meant absolutely nothing to me, and I was like, all right, cool.

[Peach]

All right, cool. Just take me to get something to eat.

[Mal]

Yeah, it's more for me. It's not for her.

[Peach]

Shout out to Biggs. They actually doing Biggs is doing the Baseline documentary. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, he's doing a documentary on Baseline, so he's working on that now. I'm excited to see that.

[Mal]

How are they gonna go about. I mean, I'd imagine what. Justin Guru will kind of be like, the pillars of that whole thing or.

[Peach]

Yeah, for sure. Guru Guru, definitely. But, yeah, I'm sure just will be a part of it.

[Mal]

Didn't just buy it eventually, or is that.

[Peach]

He may have. I don't see that. Yeah, I don't know for sure. I don't see that as not. You know, that's a real thing. But I'm excited to see that because, you know, the stories that came from Baseline, obviously, the albums, the music that came out of there, it'll be dope to kind of see that and hear people kind of retell those stories and. Yeah. You know, see some of the footage. So I'm really looking forward to. To that documentary, for sure.

[Mal]

I mean, all the footage they unearthed for the. The Kanye Netflix that was in Baseline. I can only imagine the. We haven't seen.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because I. I thought, you know, I'm a nerd. I thought I had seen everybody bit of Baseline footage. Even the shit that didn't make Fade to Black, that Kanye footage was crazy. I was like, how has this never been out? I'm sure there's.

[Peach]

I hope some of that footage. When Kanye first started coming around Baseline, I hope some of that is in there, because that was like, some. You know, thinking back to those times of Kanye being there, like, and obviously who he is now, to see that Is dope. So I hope they have some of that footage.

[Mal]

Yeah, that footage is just so valuable. Just that era, I feel like, because you had to have a camera, like, for real.

[Peach]

Absolutely.

[Mal]

And I feel like people probably, like, not clammed up, but we're kind of reserved when someone came with a camera with a camcorder. I'm cool.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

What the Are you doing?

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Trying to work here. I mean, now it's super normal. There's always. You just assume you're on camera at all times when you're creating.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So that footage is. Is a different type. Valuable.

[Peach]

It's gonna be dope. It's definitely gonna be dope. I'm excited to see that. That documentary.

[Mal]

You know why they chose that spot?

[Peach]

Baseline? Yeah, that was Malik Sealy's. Malik's Hilly and Juan.

[Mal]

Oh, okay.

[Peach]

That was their. That was their. That was their studio. And then they started booking so much time there to record. It just became, like, the home base. Like, everybody from Rockefeller is gonna record it.

[Mal]

Yeah. I didn't know Juan.

[Peach]

Rest in peace, Malik silly. Yeah, no, it was Malik silly. And on one spot.

[Mal]

That makes a lot of sense.

[Peach]

A baseline. Basketball to baseline.

[Mal]

It's all.

[Peach]

Yeah. Connected baseline to music. So it kind of.

[Mal]

Yeah. No, I just thought. Bass line.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mal]

The music.

[Peach]

I never. Yeah.

[Mal]

40. 40.

[Peach]

All right, cool.

[Mal]

It's all coming together.

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mal]

Juan just loves sports.

[Peach]

Yeah, absolutely. That's all he loves.

[Mal]

I'm sure there's no bass reference in that at all. It has nothing to do with just basketball and music.

[Peach]

That's it. That's all we selling over here.

[Mal]

I don't want to do, like, a whole Drake episode, but he did put out a snippet with. With Rod Wave. Are you. Are you allowed to be objective with. With champagne?

[Peach]

Of course.

[Mal]

It's a whole bunch of the same.

[Peach]

What you didn't like, I didn't dislike it.

[Mal]

It's just. It's just more. It's just more of the same. And not to say, like, I respect what Rod Wave does and, like, I mean, his fan base is crazy. Like, I tried to.

[Peach]

He does it a Rod Wave.

[Mal]

Not for me.

[Peach]

Yeah. It's just, like. I don't know, man. I mean, I understand the melodies and all of that. It's obviously, you know, I get it, but I just can't. I don't know when I would really, like, sit down and listen to, like, a Rod Wave album.

[Mal]

And it's funny because so many people are like, bro, you're depressed. You love Rod Wave. And Then I listen, like, depression's not hitting the same in this movie. I can't. I can't connect.

[Peach]

I don't.

[Mal]

Yeah, because he's younger. I don't know.

[Peach]

I. He probably tried the same age I tried. You know, obviously, I get it. I understand how, you know, his fan base is, you know, as big as it is, but I just can't. I can't connect to it. I haven't. I tried it. I don't want to force it. I try to even throw it on and not listen to it, just have it playing in the back. It's just not. It's not connecting with me.

[Mal]

Yeah, not for me. But also this. This Drake snippet sounds like it's not from me either.

[Peach]

I only heard it. I think Elliot posted it. Somebody posted it. I only heard it one time. We was outside yesterday because I didn't really, like. I can't remember nothing that was said on it, but I remember seeing that it was. It was the rod wave, it was the goat, and then it was the emoji, the turtle. Something like that, I guess.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

And I was just like, oh. I didn't even know what it was at first because that's all I saw. And I listened to it, but I don't even. I can't get my opinion on it because I really didn't. Only heard it one time. We was outside it.

[Mal]

It's again, just more of. More of the same. It's not bad. It's just kind of pointless, I guess.

[Peach]

What. What do people. What do you think people are looking for from Drake, though? Like, what do. What do they want?

[Mal]

Rapping?

[Peach]

Just straight bars.

[Mal]

Like.

[Peach]

Like, Like. Like time stamp bars or like intro bars.

[Mal]

It's tough to say with his crowd because his fan base is the biggest fan base. I can only speak for me. I would like, especially now, some rapping. That's why I love the. What's the. The no Face. I love that first verse. He was rapping like, that's what I want. But I. I get that I'm not who he's probably targeting.

[Peach]

I love that. What's that? Circadian rhythm. I love that record. I think that is dope.

[Mal]

But again, more of the same. I've heard this from. It's a good record. But she's more of the same, at least. Like the no Face. I've heard something like that from him, but it was a breath of freshness.

[Peach]

That's a different flow, though.

[Mal]

I know. That's why I liked it on that no Face record. He's. He's saying some on there too. Like, that's what I want. But I don't think Drake cares about me and people like me at this moment. Like, the. My rap for. To prove to y'all that I'm better, but I don't need to do that anymore.

[Peach]

Right?

[Mal]

But, yeah, people want timestamp shit.

[Peach]

I mean, but. But we want the timestamp ship in the flow of. Of the album, though. No, not.

[Mal]

I mean, I used to like the scary hours, like, random drops, when he would put a God's plan with diplomatic immunity, like God's plan out of here right away. But I'm gonna hit diplomatic immunity on repeat. I liked when he did that, so I. I guess he did that with no face and the circadian rhythm shit.

[Peach]

So if you feel like everybody just.

[Mal]

Feels like throwaways, I'll be honest, it feels like unfinished throwaways.

[Peach]

Okay, so if you feel like everybody just wants rap from Drake, how do you think the. The Party Drake album is going to be received? Because I'm sure he's gonna be rapping on that album.

[Mal]

I mean, I don't even know these days how anything is received. Like. Like it's. I can't even gauge what the temperature is with music, period. Like, I saw the timeline turn on Kendrick when he put out the no More Party shit. I. I have no idea anymore how people.

[Peach]

The no More Parties. Or is that the name of the.

[Mal]

We still didn't get a real name.

[Peach]

Of it, but, yeah, that's the name you gave it.

[Mal]

That's the name Genius gave it. I didn't know.

[Peach]

More Party. No, they gave it the day the party died. Kill the Party.

[Mal]

Whatever.

[Peach]

Yeah, kill the party.

[Mal]

No More Parties in la. Part two.

[Peach]

I don't know, Part nine, but.

[Mal]

So I really don't know how things are received anymore. And even, like, this is why I'm glad I don't, like, fully, fully work in the music business, especially on the marketing side, because, like, how your algorithms work. You click one thing and get a completely different gauge of what's going on in the world when it comes to music. Like, I'll click one Drake type page and I will get nothing. But he is the greatest of all time. Then I'll click one Kendrick thing and get the exact same thing and just shitting on Drake. He's the worst ever. No one's ever gonna listen to him. I can't gauge and I actually don't particularly care to clear my algorithms to really find out. Like, I'm just Gonna keep scrolling. Yeah, I can't. I have no idea what's gonna happen.

[Peach]

I'm. I'm looking forward to the response from the. From the Drake Party album because we've gotten so many dope records from those two together throughout the years. So for them to have a full project together, like, can't wait. Yeah, I'm excited to kind of see how that's received. Cause I loved Pardi's album that he dropped earlier this year, thought that was incredible. But he dropped that around the time of the beef, so that overshadowed that. But now that they have their album, their joint project coming together, I am excited to hear that music because again, throughout the years, if you go back to all the records they have together, they. They work very well together, I will.

[Mal]

Say, even because, of course, they're batting a thousand when it's the two of them. I feel like if they do give us more of the same, it may not be received well. Even if it's high quality, typical party and Drake, I don't know if it'll be received very well, I feel like.

[Peach]

Really?

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

Well, why?

[Mal]

Because the same shit with these records that are coming out now, like, it's just more of the same. It's not moving the needle on anything. Like, we've heard Drake do this a million times. That's why they're not hitting the way they are even on streaming and charts. Like, it's just more of the same.

[Peach]

When you say move the needle, though, like, how, how much further do you think an artist like Drake can move the needle? Because he's been moving the needle for what, 15, 14 years.

[Mal]

I think the reset is, is finally back. I'm actually excited because finally. Because at that. To your point.

[Peach]

Yes.

[Mal]

How much further can he.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, what else?

[Mal]

But now there's a reset. So the needle's back to zero. Of course not. It's. But it's at least in the middle now. Like, you can see the difference. If he puts something out, you can tell if it's impactful or not. And these have not been impactful, but again, he's been putting them out in a different way.

[Peach]

And that's what I'm. That's. That's what I was waiting for you to say, because it's not. This is not the prototypical way that Drake has ever put out music. Like he's giving us just dropping joints. But to me, if he knew those.

[Mal]

Were real high level records, he wouldn't release them this way. He knows those are throwaways.

[Peach]

I don't think Circadian Rhythm is a throwaway. I think that's a huge. I think that record is a huge record.

[Mal]

He was. Didn't he just buy a fucking ranch in Texas and they were shooting a video? Where's that video? That video never came out. Like, I'm not sure he knows how to release music and just. I get with the hundred gigs thing, but if he knew those, those records were going to move the needle or make an impact, he would have put them out drastically different. But again, I don't really know. Maybe that has something to do with Universal and whatever they have going on. I can only speculate. But if he knew those records were going to do something, they wouldn't go out that way.

[Peach]

Some of them, yeah, I agree.

[Mal]

There'd be a visual. There would be something.

[Peach]

You know what he know what he has, he has waiting, like, so he probably looked at that. I was like, these are dope. But I know what we got on the way, so I'm not tripping on that.

[Mal]

And again, I don't want to go on a whole drink tangents after we just did. I know. Sorry, man. Sorry, listeners.

[Peach]

It happens. It is.

[Mal]

We're in his hometown.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's all good. His hometown.

[Mal]

Remember when he's from London.

[Peach]

Yeah, I get it.

[Mal]

I see why he stayed out here.

[Peach]

I go, no, I absolutely get it. I. I understand.

[Mal]

But while we're on music, let's get to the greatest platform of all time. Complex media, which we have continued to say, always have said complex, is by far the greatest of all time. Number 13, if you didn't know, I mean, listen, I owe Karisha an apology.

[Peach]

Why is that?

[Mal]

She was asking Ross some questions, man. I'm sorry, Karisha, I've on you for a long time, but I appreciated the question she was asking Rick Ross. But while we're here in Complex, they put out their 20 rappers under 20, I believe it was called. Yes, the 20 best rappers in their 20s. Right now we can just start at number one. We don't have to make like a whole dramatic thing about this. Playboi Cardi at number one.

[Peach]

Wow.

[Mal]

Is he a rapper?

[Peach]

Is Playboi Carti a rapper?

[Mal]

Yeah, I think the lines have obviously been blurred for good reason to need to push the genre forward.

[Peach]

But he's not the prototypical 16 bar hook. 16.

[Mal]

But I'm not even trying to be that old head.

[Peach]

Yeah, just.

[Mal]

But is he a rapper, like at all? Like, he rhymes words. Don't get me wrong. Okay, I'm sorry. He rhymes. Sounds yeah, he has.

[Peach]

Yeah, it's a very unique. It's like ad lib, sound effect type of rage.

[Mal]

Like, listen, man, I know his. His fan base, okay? Not here to hate.

[Peach]

No, it sounds like you are here to hate, though. That's what it sounds.

[Mal]

No, when you say is not for you, it's hate. No, it's not, man. I'm just not.

[Peach]

I'm with you. That's not hate.

[Mal]

You think when playboy Carti goes in the studio, he thinks about my white face at 34 years old, like, I'm gonna make something for him?

[Peach]

No, absolutely.

[Mal]

Of course not. So it's. I shouldn't even be judging it, right? But I can judge a list that says 20 rappers in their 20s and he's at number one as far as audience. Sure, he got that.

[Peach]

He's another one where I understand it, but it's not for me. It doesn't connect to me.

[Mal]

But he's where I do give him the utmost perspectives to these kids. He's like a Kanye, a Cudi, a Travis. He's pushing the boundaries for them. So I respect it. I'm just. My old ass ears don't even know, like, that's what y'all like.

[Peach]

Yeah, like, Cardi's not thinking about us when he's creating these, of course. At all.

[Mal]

Number two, Doja Cat. You fine with that.

[Peach]

You know how I feel about that love, Doja Cat.

[Mal]

How you feel about her for real?

[Peach]

I don't know.

[Mal]

She's been posting some videos lately. She's like, thick again.

[Peach]

Calm yourself down, huh? Just calm yourself down a little. Just listen to the music, man.

[Mal]

We just talk about in a hotel by myself. We just calms your thoughts.

[Peach]

Yeah, but just feel like calm your loins a little bit.

[Mal]

I'm not gonna say anything at number three because we are actually in his hometown, Central C. Central C is number three. Number three.

[Peach]

Really?

[Mal]

I think he's, as far as rapping goes, should be up there. Three is kind of crazy.

[Peach]

Three is Desa.

[Mal]

So when I was going through this list before we started recording, I had some thoughts too. But then I started looking up all the rappers that were in their 20s, and I was like, I don't know. It kind of checks out. Rap is not as far as rappers go. Rap is not as young as we make it out to be. Because then I was like, where's Jid at? I was like, oh, JID's like 32.

[Peach]

But has since, you see even put out an album yet.

[Mal]

I mean, the Dave ep. Okay, but he's I mean, let's look that up, because we're in his city. I'm sure he has. Maybe we're just not tapped in. Meg the Stallion at number four. They gonna give Meg some credit, man. She's gonna get an award. Okay, number five, Yeet. Same question I have. Is Playboi Cardi. Is that a rapper?

[Peach]

All right, see, now this is where it should start getting tricky at another.

[Mal]

One that has those fan bases that are like, yeah, but he will pack out. Yeet. Might go to arenas next year if he's not there already.

[Peach]

Wow. See, I'm not. That's just. But again, that's not for us, though. That ain't for us.

[Mal]

Number six, Lotto. Get number seven, Glorilla. Number eight, Yachty. Which, by the way, I did not know Yachty was only 27.

[Peach]

Like, yeah, yada. Yeah.

[Mal]

Number nine, Lil baby.

[Peach]

Okay. Little baby's not 30 yet.

[Mal]

He is 29.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

Which if this was two years ago, he'd probably be number one.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But it's been a little different. Number 10, Chief Keef. I loved his last project, but I would never expect somebody to put.

[Peach]

All right.

[Mal]

Well deserved, in my opinion.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Because his last project was Fire.

[Peach]

He probably should be a little higher than that, though.

[Mal]

And we can go quickly through this. 11, lil uzi vert. I feel like he should be higher, but.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah, again, for sure.

[Mal]

Number 12, Ken Carson. Showing our age.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

Number 13, Dochi. I mean, I think she belongs up there.

[Peach]

Yeah, this was definitely.

[Mal]

Had it not been two weeks ago.

[Peach]

She'S made before that album dropped, for sure.

[Mal]

She probably wouldn't be on the list like that. 14 V's, I think deserves. 15. Sexy red. I'm sorry. 15. 16. NBA youngboy. 17, baby keem.

[Peach]

Oh, okay. I'm all right.

[Mal]

See you see? You can't even help yourself. You can't even help yourself.

[Peach]

All I said.

[Mal]

You cannot even help.

[Peach]

All I said was what you about to say? I'm just thinking, like you said.

[Mal]

Okay. A little different than the other 16. I just knew because I'm thinking about.

[Peach]

Where he's at on the list, and it's like. But we haven't really got a lot of Keem yet, though. So I, like.

[Mal]

Let me not say that I saw a lot of potential in his first project. I don't think it landed. I do have high hopes for him, but it was undeveloped. I think Keem is going to be dope eventually.

[Peach]

I just don't think that sounds crazy. Why y'all think you're going to be dope eventually.

[Mal]

Yeah. I could hear there's a lot of potential on that first project, but it just didn't have much replay value. Like, you could tell it was put together by other people, and it was kind of like, yo, Keem, you put your shit here. So he's number 18, 17.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

He has to put out music again.

[Peach]

That's what I'm saying. We making this list. It's like, do we have enough music, though?

[Mal]

I mean, you saw about Central C. He has a lot of music, but, like, a full product. Keem at least has a full project.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

And a lot of. I mean, he has features.

[Peach]

Which.

[Mal]

One of the biggest rappers of all time. Like a couple joints. So I guess 18. Boss man low.

[Peach]

Boss man D low. Okay.

[Mal]

Number 19. I. I have to come here and. And cape for my. My white brethren. And it's not because of our affiliation with. With Drama, Lake and Cannon, but Jack Harlow at number 19 is insane.

[Peach]

He should be seeing that. That's. He should be.

[Mal]

If he's not top five, I don't.

[Peach]

Be higher than Keem and all of them.

[Mal]

Like, yeah, baby, Keem over J is fucking nuts.

[Peach]

That's. Now that's crazy. I'll give you that one. That's crazy.

[Mal]

How is Jack Harlow not. He should be top number one or two.

[Peach]

Yeah. He said. I'm about to say he gotta definitely be top 10.

[Mal]

Why? They're not higher. He has been oddly inactive this year, dog. He put out, like, four fucking albums this year.

[Peach]

He's not allowed to take some.

[Mal]

Yeah, like, he took one year off after putting out three projects in a row and.

[Peach]

And a movie, like.

[Mal]

And his. His last joint was him rapping.

[Peach]

Rapping two movies because he had White.

[Mal]

McCann jump and then the Matt Damon joint. I mean, they clapped him quick, but.

[Peach]

Oh, okay. Well, he still. He was on set. He was on set.

[Mal]

He was on the call. She. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I liked his first 10 minutes. I wish they would have kept him, like, longer in that movie.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

But him at 19 to me is. That's blast nuts.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And number 20, I mean, I guess I get him at 20 because it's only been about a year, but cash Cobain at 20 to me is crazy, too.

[Peach]

Oh, yeah. Cash got to be higher.

[Mal]

He has to be way higher.

[Peach]

Yeah, he gotta be higher than number 20.

[Mal]

Why they're not higher? He still has work to do if he wants to be recognized primarily as a rapper. What is he known as?

[Peach]

I'm gonna guess they're gonna probably Go to producer route. That's what it sounds like. They trying to lean more towards. He's more of a producer than a rapper.

[Mal]

How?

[Peach]

I don't know. He just put out.

[Mal]

He raps on all his production.

[Peach]

Yeah. I don't know how they got to.

[Mal]

That, but that should make him higher.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, absolutely no. Cash gotta be higher than. But.

[Mal]

And I don't think that's like a New York bias that I feel like across the board, Cash is recognized. Higher than that.

[Peach]

Yeah. He's changing the sound. So, I mean, you gotta put him up higher than number 20, even.

[Mal]

You know, I said clock on with Sexy Red. I feel like she should be higher than 15.

[Peach]

What was she? Okay, yeah, but hiding who. But who, though? One of the other females don't put.

[Mal]

Women against each other.

[Peach]

No, I'm just saying who?

[Mal]

That's a good question.

[Peach]

Man, you ain't jacking King Caution.

[Mal]

Sounds like he's running for Senate. Let's not. Hey, he's probably nice.

[Peach]

Yeah. No hate. Definitely no hate.

[Mal]

Okay. Peach says he's a Playboy Cardi type. And if he's not, it's Peach's fault, not Molinai's fault. So stay out of our mentions. It's at PJ that he probably nice. I don't know.

[Peach]

Maybe.

[Mal]

I mean, complex. With these lists, I couldn't put this together, so who am I to judge? I wouldn't even know where to start.

[Peach]

Who do you think is missing off that list, though?

[Mal]

Joey Badass.

[Peach]

How old is Joey? He got to be 30 at least.

[Mal]

Joey Badass is 29 years old. January 20, 1995.

[Peach]

Wow.

[Mal]

Joey Badass should be on this list.

[Peach]

He should be on that list for sure.

[Mal]

You know who should really be on this list? And I don't know if it's because of maybe some of his habits. Off the mic. Kodak Black is under 30 years old.

[Peach]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Tripping. He gotta be number one.

[Mal]

Do you think that maybe has to do with some of the charges that he's had and that's why they left him?

[Peach]

Probably, but.

[Mal]

But Kodak Black would be like, number three. Two.

[Peach]

He probably would be number one.

[Mal]

He's only 27.

[Peach]

People don't give. Yo, bro. People don't give Kodak Black his just due. Like, when you really listen to Kodak Black and the shit he be saying.

[Mal]

You put me on. I didn't. I didn't know he could rap like this.

[Peach]

Yo, I'm surprised at some of the shit he says. Like, bro, he's way too young to Be talking like that. Like, he be saying, like, some shit that. It's like when you go back to when he was 19, 20 years old, the shit he was saying. So to be 27 and not be on this list. I get it. He's had his running with the laws and had to go sit down a couple times, but.

[Mal]

Well, yes. I mean, again, I don't fully know all the cases, but he has like a rape charge and I didn't look. I've never looked into what was true or not. I think that he has things on his jacket that I feel like may be complex, but I think that.

[Peach]

I think that that case may have gotten dismissed, though I'm not sure. I could be speaking out of turn.

[Mal]

But I think that got dismissed certain things.

[Peach]

But regardless, though, I think it has to be that because Kodak Black, even his music, his albums is like, he's definitely should be on a top 20 list of people under 30.

[Mal]

Has Kodak and Nas ever done anything together?

[Peach]

Kodak Black? I don't think so.

[Mal]

P just brought up a great point. Ice Spice isn't on this list. That's crazy to me. Even though you guys have coined me as the Ice Spice hater. Numbers are numbers. She deserves to be on this list. I. I don't care if she has a poop fetish. Like, she deserves to be on this.

[Peach]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[Mal]

Like, her jacket isn't the same as Kodak's with kinks. Too far. My bad.

[Peach]

See it? Always. Always. That's your problem.

[Mal]

It's because we're here. It's Buckingham palace that did this to.

[Peach]

Me, but, yeah, yes, Ice Spice should be on that list. She should. She should. She's made way too much noise over the last two years to not be.

[Mal]

On that list as compared.

[Peach]

She should be on the list. I agree with you. Yeah, you should. I was gonna try to find a reason why she wasn't, but. No, she should absolutely be on that list.

[Mal]

It's gonna sound like some hater, and I promise it's not Kendrick related. Ice Spice has done more than Keem in the last year.

[Peach]

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Mal]

It's not even close.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Talent level. Keem is drastically more talented than her. But if we're doing Liz. Shit it. Yeah. How is Ice Spice. She deserved it. Not in the top 10. Yeah, but I don't know. We can. We can get to voicemails, though. Let's see what Julian picked from across the pond.

[Peach]

Oh, God, you've got mail.

[Julian]

Hey, what's up, gang? This is Juan Calling from out here in South Central la. I'm gonna try to be quick.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Julian]

So where I live right now, I'm renting. I've been there for a few years and we only have one neighborhood. She recently moved out, so obviously the landlord is looking for a new tenant. She's being mindful of the fact that I have two kids, an 8 year old and a 3 year old. So she's asking me if I know anybody who's looking for an apartment, which I don't. But my girl told her brother and he told his close friend. So he's considering it and he applied. But I don't really want to have him as neighbor because I seen them be pretty sloppy when he's drunk. A few little other things I don't want to get into. But also he seems to be in between jobs all the time. But the reason he's considering it is because apparently he has a sugar daddy that's been helping him out with things for the last seven, eight years that took a turn. But I still don't feel comfortable. So should I tell the landlord, please ignore him and don't even consider him or should I just let things play out? I know I might come off as a hater if I tell her that, but I just don't think I want him as a neighbor.

[Mal]

Listen, man.

[Peach]

Thank you guys.

[Mal]

Home is supposed to be peace. I think he should snitch. I think he's just, I really do. Home is peace. I feel like snitching is allowed when it comes to your home. He should tell the landlord. He will be an awful tenant. I know him. You don't want these problems.

[Peach]

I, I, I, I agree. You should keep home like you, you got to keep home peaceful. I get that.

[Mal]

You got kids. Yeah, he, he drunk bringing in old, old men.

[Peach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to find a, I'm trying to find a spot where I could throw him some bail.

[Mal]

But yeah, yeah, also just like a gay sugar daddy. Having like a twink in South Central to me is just hilarious. If you're not gay, you can say twink, right?

[Peach]

I don't know, man. I just would never say that.

[Mal]

Gerard Carmichael told me about the word. I never even knew about it. I watched the show.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Mal]

I think he should just having a twink in the 60s, just chilling.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's just, it's so random like. But yeah, no, I'm with you though. I think he should tell.

[Mal]

Yeah. Because if he didn't have kids, maybe I'D be like, yo, just. Yeah, dug it out. Like, it is what it is.

[Peach]

But once you got the kids around, you don't need that type of energy. That type of, you know, in and out. Those people coming through.

[Mal]

Like, even with the sugar daddy, like, he doesn't have a job. If goes sour With. With sugar.

[Peach]

Yes. With Domino.

[Mal]

Yeah. With Splenda over there. I don't really know if it's gonna work, so. Yeah.

[Peach]

All right. I was gonna say something crazy.

[Mal]

No, no, you can say it.

[Peach]

No, no, no, no. I ain't gonna say it, man. Let's get to the next one because.

[Mal]

We'Re in front of company.

[Peach]

No, no, no, no. Just, just. We don't need that energy. It's all good.

[Mal]

All right, we have another one. This one says anonymous, so I will definitely not say their name.

[Anonymous]

What's up, Pod? What's up, Julian? What's up, Baby D? What's up, up, Rory? What's up, Ma?

[Peach]

My name is Mark.

[Anonymous]

I'm from Memphis. Quick question. I had actually two questions. First question, what is a bias that each one of you have regarding hip hop? Something that you know that is a bias, but you stand by it. And the reason why I wanted to ask is because of the whole Lil Wayne situation with the Super Bowl. I'm hearing more podcasts, specifically you guys, Rosenberg, a couple of more northern artists like Fat Joe Fab, pretty much be on the side of the powers that be that decided that Wayne, you know, didn't need to necessarily have the super bowl halftime show either, because everyone you name, you know. But I've heard something as far as he probably doesn't have the health wise, he can't perform or, you know, does he even question in his catalog, which, I mean, just with me being from Memphis, I feel like he definitely does have the catalog to bring an exciting super bowl halftime performance. I can name plenty of songs. And I also feel that if Cali got the chance to bring their culture to the super bowl halftime show, last Super Bowl, I think that the biggest artist to come out of New Orleans, which is Wayne, should have been able to.

[Mal]

Oh, just stop capped at 130. I mean, I think Kendrick might bring out Big Frida. I'm not even trying to make a joke.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's not far fetched.

[Mal]

Yeah, I can see some New Orleans bounce type shit happening at that point. But again, we already did the super bowl thing. What's. What's a rap bias you have outside of champagne?

[Peach]

A rap bias that I have probably that New York still Has the best rappers.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Peach]

Being from New York, I mean, I'm.

[Mal]

I'm always gonna say in totality, like, from the 70s to 2024.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Yeah. I mean, I guess that's a. I don't know if that's a bias.

[Peach]

Take people. Some people would go with the South.

[Mal]

I think, after 1999. Yeah. You can make a strong case that Atlanta could have better rappers.

[Peach]

I would never make that case, though. That's my bias. Like, I'm always. It's always New York for me.

[Mal]

Same. But we're from. We're 10 years apart. I could make a big case that Atlanta could surpass us.

[Peach]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

[Mal]

It's like.

[Peach]

And I. And I understand it. And it's like, when people start running off names, I'm like, damn.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

In my mind, I'm like, but. But I would never, like, I would never move off of that. Like, I will. It would always be New York has the greatest ever.

[Mal]

I'm trying to guess what your reaction is about to be. I don't think I have any biases.

[Peach]

At all. Like, in life.

[Mal]

No. It's about hip hop. I mean, Hov. Yeah. Against Peace said, against the youth. Anyone in their 20s, you definitely boss.

[Peach]

Against the youth. Yeah.

[Mal]

I mean, yeah, I'm. I'm hov. I'm a whole avenger. But I've been critical of HO before. Like, yeah, I'm not anything. I guess I can't say that because.

[Peach]

You just said that you feel like Wale is a better rapper than code.

[Mal]

And you said, but that's my personal. That's not a bias.

[Peach]

But you just. You said that coming off of hanging out with Wale in Vegas.

[Mal]

But see, that's. That's the biggest difference of this entire thing. That conversation Damaris and I had in that car was the night before, and I didn't even know Wale was in Vegas until the next day. And we started laughing. I said, look, my goat is in Vegas. Yeah, that's how God works.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

That's what we laughed about.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

That take was on my way to go do my gig, which was the day before.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

That's why it was so funny. It's like, yo, Wale, I just went to the lobby. Wale's on this billboard. I just checked the date. It's today.

[Peach]

So no biases.

[Mal]

I have my personal taste, but that's not a bias. Like, I feel like the bias is because you rock with them. They could kind of do no wrong, or you pick them what's the exact definition of bias? Because that is a really good question. Bias, definition. Let's see what Webster has to say. Inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group? Group. I was like, racism, Exactly. Especially. Especially in a way considered to be unfair. I. I feel like I'm gonna get killed. And I was gonna say, here's 10 years of your recorded biases.

[Peach]

Comment below, put all Rory's biases over the years.

[Mal]

I've. I've admitted that I've been biased with hov, but I've also been critical of him. I probably give him more cushion than most people would. So I guess. I guess there's a HOV bias there. I guess there's a Nas bias, but I don't. I'm pretty objective. I feel like.

[Peach]

So it sounds like New York, just like me. It's a New York bias.

[Mal]

I think you have a Drake bias.

[Peach]

But you only think that coming off of the Not Like Us record. You didn't think that was.

[Mal]

But you. This isn't a new thing. You've always been a big Drake fan outside of your relationship with him.

[Peach]

But I guess not a Drake fan.

[Mal]

Fair. But you. I mean, was me asking you the Royce Lupe and all that before or after? I think it was. It was.

[Peach]

That was during.

[Mal]

I guess that's biased to me. I guess.

[Peach]

No, it's not.

[Mal]

It's. It's a bias.

[Peach]

No, it's not. He raps better than them. Like, and that's not a, like, slight against those guys. But, like.

[Mal]

But your relationship with him, do you feel like you could be objective?

[Peach]

Yes.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Peach]

Absolutely. But I don't think. Just because I don't think those guys rap better, that doesn't mean those dudes aren't nice. But if you look at the rapping that Drake has given us over the years, how consistent he's been, like, it's.

[Mal]

Cause even with my HOV bias, like, I get it. I believe what I'm saying. So I don't know if it's a bias.

[Peach]

Yeah. Like, I get it. When we hear Black Thought and we hear Lupe, like, we. They're special. We get it. But, like, then think about the years of rap that Drake has given us. The bars, the songs.

[Mal]

Like, I still think he'll have a dress bias. Do you think I have a bias? Even though I really went on the ledge and said I don't have any. I can't wait to see these comments. Pull up every clip of me having a bias for. Towards everyone.

[Peach]

I'm trying to Find an R and B bias with you. I'm not even thinking rap. I'm leaning more R and B. I feel like you definitely have an R and B bias.

[Mal]

I don't know. Life Jennings, maybe.

[Peach]

What would your Life Jennings bias be? What would that be?

[Mal]

I love Life Jennings so much that I was okay with him screaming from across the booth, somebody call the cops up. Just shot me down. Somebody call the cops up. I was like, that is hard. In retrospect, I might add a little bias just because I love life like that.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't know. You definitely have a bias, but I can't. I can't find it right now, though.

[Mal]

That's a good point that P just brought up. There is definitely a bias with white hip hop fans towards white rappers. That is a fact. Also, other white people within the industry, like, we all have to hate each other. But that, I feel like, changed after Mac Miller because I definitely had that bias before. Like you. I can't be a. A white hip hop fan and like a white rapper like, yo, that's trash. Get out the culture.

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mal]

So, yes, Peach is correct. After Mac Miller, I feel like it changed drastically. Even, like, with Action Jack Harlow, too. Despite what his team may think, I really. With Jack Harlow, it shifted after Mac, like, it was okay to like white rappers. Like, I had to quietly, like Asher.

[Peach]

Ross shouts to Ashley.

[Mal]

Love Ashley. Yeah, super talented. But that was definitely a thing. Outside of Eminem. After Eminem, that was the white BC and AD After M. Before Mac, that Gap had to hate every white rapper. Like, this is. This is awful. I like Yellow Wolf. Trump music is still my. But I was also like, no, I don't like his haircut.

[Peach]

Do I have a bias against white rappers? Nah. Because I was one of the ones that was like, yo, MGK got Eminem. Like, I was early on that. Like, I was. I felt like that in that moment.

[Mal]

MGK was around the Mac Miller time, too, because I fucked with MGK as well. Yeah, I think he's super talented. I wish he would rap more, but.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Mal]

That freestyle he did with Gillian Waller was great. Crazy.

[Peach]

Yeah. No, mgk, he's dope.

[Mal]

Even when people don't give back and forth. Well, not back and forth, but when he went at Jack Harlow when he, like, by his weight bench, when he should have just been in Megan Fox's.

[Peach]

Pool, I'm like, yeah, you trying to show us he in the. In the trenches. You know what I'm saying?

[Mal]

Why. Why do white rappers have to do that, we have to out trench each other. No, what's like, it's okay to be by the pool like, like Rick Ross.

[Peach]

With your beautiful girlfriend? Like, yeah, it's fine. That's what I would be.

[Mal]

That freestyle would have been way harder if she was sitting next to the infinity pool.

[Peach]

100%.

[Mal]

You didn't have to. You didn't have to bench 135 to do that.

[Peach]

Yeah, I don't have any biases towards white rappers, though. I don't think so. I mean, I, you know, I don't listen to a lot of them, but it's not a bias.

[Mal]

Did you, I mean, did you have a bias during the Nas and J thing?

[Peach]

Of course.

[Mal]

See bias.

[Peach]

Yeah, but that's not fair because that's not.

[Mal]

But that's a bias.

[Peach]

Yeah, but I mean, I was. Are you kidding me? Like, I had no choice. What the fuck? What are you talking about?

[Mal]

Like, couldn't be in baseline. Like, yo, that either. Shit is all right, man.

[Peach]

Get the. It was never saying that. Are you crazy?

[Mal]

Like, if you think about it though, he did do Taebo.

[Peach]

No, he didn't.

[Mal]

No, he did.

[Peach]

No, he didn't. Never did that. Yeah, I definitely.

[Mal]

You ain't walking like, Oh, I get it. You big and heap.

[Peach]

Ew. Never did that.

[Mal]

Okay.

[Peach]

We wasn't dissecting none of those balls. Not then. It was, it was on that like it was home team and nobody else.

[Mal]

I probably had a Kanye bias for. I lost my Kanye bias. But there was a while that, that I was like, all right, he doing some, but he still made College Dropouts.

[Peach]

He's still. You can't move off of that.

[Mal]

I, I lost it after the album. Yay. Is when I lost my Kanye bias.

[Peach]

Why?

[Mal]

Because it was the first project in his discography that I felt like you just took a bunch of songs from someone else's hard drive. You didn't push even certain Kanye projects that maybe aren't for me, at least. You tried to push a sound a certain way. That was just as much as I love Ty and Jeremiah. Like, you just went through Ty's folder and Jeremiah's references and you rapped for a second and took a photo on your iPhone on the way to the listening, and you're like, here you go. So I lost my bias at that point. And I mean, I don't think Hitler's a good guy either. So I, I, that was also like.

[Peach]

A. Yeah, that was part of it.

[Mal]

I had lost my bias before that, but then I was thinking like, all right, he has a mask on. Is that really yay with Alex Jones? You don't even know that. Could have been someone else.

[Peach]

Oh, that was him. Let me. I promise you that was him. Absolutely. That was him. We not gonna even try to. No, no, no, no, no. That was him.

[Mal]

But then my bias kicked in. Like, I've never seen Alex Jones squirm like that. He got out. Alex Jonesed. I've never seen that in my life. But that was my bias. Like, I disagree with what ye's saying. But he just had Alex Jones go, no, no, no, no, no, no. The guy that said the frogs were gay. He was like, nah, you didn't mean that, right? Yeah, he's like, no, no, no, I. I seriously mean that.

[Peach]

I absolutely mean that.

[Mal]

So, yeah, I guess I have a yay bias.

[Peach]

Yeah, so do I have a. That's the only bias I have. Just New York, New York rappers are the best. We still have the best rappers ever in the history of hip hop.

[Mal]

I mean, I wouldn't call my three stacks biased, per se, but I'm fine with him not really having a solo rap album and still putting him as a goat. I don't know. Does that count as a bias?

[Peach]

No, no, he doesn't need a solo. He's part of one of the greatest rap groups ever. Like, it's okay for him to be just that. He don't need a solo three stacks to say he's one of the greatest.

[Mal]

I have a Lauryn Hill bias.

[Peach]

Oh, yes. That is your bias.

[Mal]

I have a Lauren Hill bias.

[Peach]

That is your bias. That is it right there. I was thinking R and B. That was it.

[Mal]

Because I feel like she's not late. The crowd's too early. Like, why'd y'all. No one goes when it says doors. Like, what y'all doing? Y'all never been to a party before.

[Peach]

That is your bias.

[Mal]

Lauryn Hill can do no wrong. Lauryn Hill.

[Peach]

I agree with that. And that's why I was thinking R B. Cause I knew it was somewhere. I knew a bias was there.

[Mal]

You know, the traffic coming out of South Orange, it's tough.

[Peach]

I get it. But still, like, years later, it's just still.

[Mal]

And I went to go see her at Brooklyn bowl years ago, pre Covid. And she was on time. And I felt like one of those stands, like, I told you so about to tweet this shit. She was right on time.

[Peach]

Yeah, that's definitely your bias. You love Lauryn Hill. She can do no wrong in your eyes.

[Mal]

Yeah. Even her kids, I love their music. I think I like their music for real. But it may have something to do with her mom.

[Peach]

It definitely does. Good songs, though. Good music.

[Mal]

But Zion's, I love his record, but.

[Peach]

That'S definitely Lauryn Hill. Is your bias 100%. You can't fight that.

[Mal]

Yeah. I remember even walking when I was living in Newark. My man was like, yo, you know, because that, like, edge between Newark to South Orange is like, night and day. You're in the fucking definition of what a trench is.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

And one block over, you're looking at million dollar mansions. And he was like, you know, Lauren's, like, up the block. I was like, take me, let's walk now.

[Peach]

I remember seeing her walking through the. I was in Jersey at the mall one day, and she literally walked right past me. You know, it's one of those things where you kind of do a double. Like, that's not. That can't be Lauryn Hill. Like, it was definitely that. And I was bugging because, like, all the kids in the mall, like, had no idea who she was. And I'm just looking around like. Like, yo, that's like Lauryn Hill that.

[Mal]

Just walked past just recently. And I mean, I apologize. Kia. Akia has a white mother, so she, like, missed a lot of shit. I know it's funny coming from me because I have a white mother, but I showed her Sister act two for the first time, like, two weeks ago. She's like, yeah, I've seen. The first one was like, you've never seen. You've never seen Frank A rap? Like, are you fucking crazy?

[Peach]

You've never seen Frank A. Yeah.

[Mal]

You've never seen one third of City High?

[Peach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mal]

With one third of the Fugees together.

[Peach]

How do you. You see Sister Act 1 and not 2? Like, 2 is the. Is the 1.

[Mal]

And I guess just with your childhood, things getting better in your brain after. She was like, I still like one better. You are.

[Peach]

There's no way High. There's no way. There's no way.

[Mal]

But, like, that's cool. Even me and Damaris had a whole list. This was like, last year, we had a list of black movies that we were going to show Kia. Like, we were going to do movie.

[Peach]

Night, Black movie playlists.

[Mal]

We made it to, like, five movies.

[Peach]

Which ones did she see?

[Mal]

Atl, Menace of Society, Brown Sugar. I think we did Boys in the Hood. And I. I forgot what the last one was. But, yeah, we had a whole list going of, like, you have to. Like, you have to. You have to see.

[Peach]

She has to see Poetic justice.

[Mal]

Yeah.

[Peach]

You got to put that on it.

[Mal]

But a lot of stuff, like, doesn't really. She. He wouldn't make it through Baby Boy.

[Peach]

Why Baby Boy? That's.

[Mal]

It was on BET every. It's probably on BET right now.

[Peach]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mal]

The funniest meme after the. The presidential debate was when they said they were killing babies after they were born. They had Tyrese in the womb.

[Peach]

See?

[Mal]

See, that was the funniest meme I saw during the debate.

[Peach]

People are ridiculous.

[Mal]

Some of that stuff, though, like, I feel like you had to be there for certain.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, Baby Boy, if you just cold show that to someone now, like, they probably be like, what is. What do you have me watching right now?

[Peach]

Yo, But I ain't gonna lie. I would love.

[Mal]

But it's, like, embedded in my childhood.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

So I love it.

[Peach]

That's what I'm saying. I would love to watch Baby Boy for the first time with somebody. Like, it's their first time. Like, just being with them. I would love. Cause I need to see what your reaction is. Like, if it's anything like, mine's when I first saw it. Cause I refused to watch Baby Boy.

[Mal]

I think this guy's probably got to grow up.

[Peach]

Yeah. I watched Baby Boy maybe a year and a half after it came out, only because at that time, I felt like. Like, I just was like, any Tyrese movie, I was like, I'm not watching that shit.

[Mal]

Oh, we showed Kia the Wood. That was the fifth one.

[Peach]

Great movie.

[Mal]

Classic.

[Peach]

How did she feel about that?

[Mal]

She liked the Wood.

[Peach]

Okay.

[Mal]

But that's more of, like, a heartfelt story.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Baby Boy is like, all right. I'm not fully understanding the plot of what's going. So he's selling dresses, now he hustling.

[Peach]

Yeah. Great movie, though. Classic movie.

[Mal]

And why is homie from Smart Guy knocking kids out in the park? I might have had the VHS of Baby Boy. Yeah.

[Peach]

I would love to see that with somebody like, it being their first time. Like, that's. That's. That's fun to kind of see some of your favorites. And somebody taking that in for the first time. That's dope.

[Mal]

But you have to with stuff like that. I've just kind of given up on putting people on. Like, people don't like the Wire if they watched it now. And, like, I'm sitting there trying to explain how this is, like, the greatest show of all time, but if you weren't there for when it was out, it doesn't hit the same like binging that show when it wasn't meant to be binged, it was meant to episode. And you are going to talk with your friends for a whole week.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Then come back to the next episode. Like it's paced that way. Way it's not paced like bingeable shit. It's a very long, drawn out thing. It doesn't hit the same way. Sopranos, too. For a lot of people that get into it now, it's like, yeah, I guess it's cool.

[Peach]

I remember I took a girl out, we went on our first date, and at dinner, we was just talking about movies, like, some of her favorite movies. And I told her my favorite movie was Purple Rain. And she was like, what is that? So I looked at her, I was like, what?

[Mal]

So, like, I see you're not doing the podium.

[Peach]

So how. So we went, how old was that girl? She was definitely an adult, but she had never seen it. So we left dinner, went back to the crib, watched Purple Rain and she loved it. She was like, oh, my God, that was incredible. And that probably ended up getting me the drawers. That night was Purple Rain. I mean, I probably would have got him regardless, but you could have.

[Mal]

Prince helped Law and Order and probably would have.

[Peach]

He helped Prince, helped me out that night.

[Mal]

What's the weirdest show you fuck to? Infomercials don't count.

[Peach]

Probably Unsolved Mysteries.

[Mal]

It sounds about right.

[Peach]

Crazy playing in the background. That weird music. Like, I didn't give a. Like, I wasn't. I wasn't looking for the remote. I didn't care what was on the tv, but I definitely remember Unsolved Mysteries playing in the background.

[Mal]

Just recently, I'd watched the. My. The Worst Ex or whatever on Netflix, and that was just bad in the back row. Like they were getting raped and murdered. I was like, this is just. This isn't.

[Peach]

He's watching the episode with the fake cop.

[Mal]

Yes.

[Peach]

She owned it. She owned. What was the restaurant she owned.

[Mal]

It was Golden Crust.

[Peach]

Golden Crust. Yeah.

[Mal]

I'm like, I mean, I could tell by that guy. And he's made. You shouldn't have trusted.

[Peach]

Yeah, you knew that from the gate. Like, yo, him. How you trust him? Like, he just came out of nowhere with a gun.

[Mal]

That badge looked crazy.

[Peach]

Yeah, that was wild. That story was wild.

[Mal]

Insane.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

I feel for that woman.

[Peach]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Mal]

And the whole time I'm thinking, like, all right, they don't have the daughter in this. I'm spoiling. I was like, the daughter's definitely gonna get murdered.

[Peach]

Yeah.

[Mal]

Like, nah, I was just fraud. And, yeah, she went to jail.

[Peach]

That was craz, though, the way he was trying to set that up.

[Mal]

Those cops long in prison. Yeah, the cops came on, like, boasting.

[Peach]

I got a.

[Mal]

You see how good we are? Like, no, you just ruined a woman's life, cuz you guys didn't even look into a bit of evidence.

[Peach]

I didn't finish that. I got to. I only watched the f. The first one and then that the second one. Yeah, with the golden crust.

[Mal]

That. But I know that. I know that Guyanese guy from Queens.

[Peach]

We all do.

[Mal]

Like, I could also right away see.

[Peach]

Right through that in that badge. Like, get out of here, man. You're a scam artist.

[Mal]

And exactly the neighborhood they was in. And I, from the beginning, I was like, oh, definitely not a cop.

[Peach]

Definitely not.

[Mal]

Not even close. Yeah, that guy was sick. And then he was maintaining his innocence at the end.

[Peach]

Yeah, y'all gonna see the full story. It's gonna all come. Like, he was awesome.

[Mal]

Like some Jussie Smollett. Like, if I kill myself in prison.

[Peach]

Yo, knock it off, man. Go take your ass.

[Mal]

You're a piece of. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. But, yeah, I guess we spoiled half that episode. But there's four other ones that are great.

[Peach]

Yeah, I gotta finish that. But we are in London Wednesday at The Clapham Grand, September 18th.

[Mal]

Friends coming through.

[Peach]

Got some people coming out. Tickets are still available now at new rory, newroarimal.com Hope to see everybody there. And, yeah, man, we about to get out of here. We're going to check out. We're going to see Rap City.

[Mal]

Yeah, Rap City. We're gonna see Alchemist Rock. Marcy, I'm excited to see.

[Peach]

I've never seen Rap City live and I never seen Rock Marciano live, so. And those are two of my favorites, so.

[Mal]

And we're seeing our first guest ever, Earl Sweatshirt.

[Peach]

Oh, yes, Earl is. Damn. Earl is here, too.

[Mal]

He's headlining.

[Peach]

We missed Everyday People last night, which is crazy, but whatever, man. So, yeah, we on our way to go check out Rhapsody. So, yeah, we'll talk to y'all soon again. Tickets are still available now for the show September 18th at the Clapham grand in Lond. Hope to see some of y'all there. It's gonna be a fun night. And, yeah, we'll talk to y'all soon. We out of here. Peach, good peach. Caught a peach. Was, was, was, was sniffing gas last night. He found a nitrous, a can of Whip It. What was it? Whip it. Nitrous oxide.

[Mal]

The shit PJ's been putting in this group chat with no context. First night, yo, did anyone else get pink eye?

[Peach]

No, Peach. Nobody else got pink eye.

[Mal]

No contact. Never said anything after that. Then the next. The next day was just a photo of a whippet of like, yo, I got this laughing gas.

[Peach]

And he found it on the street and picked it up and wondered why he got pink eye. That's how you get pink eye.

[Mal]

He gave the whippet pink eye.

[Peach]

We'll talk to you soon. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga, he's just ginger.

[Mal]

Peace, new worry and mouth.