Episode 307 | Your Favorite Verse Might Be AI

Summary

Podcast Summary: New Rory & MAL
Episode 307 | Your Favorite Verse Might Be AI
Release Date: October 1, 2024

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Introduction

In Episode 307 of "New Rory & MAL," hosted by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume, the hosts delve into a multifaceted discussion centered around the intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) in the music industry, relationship dynamics in high-profile celebrity scenarios, and transitions into sports-related topics. Titled "Your Favorite Verse Might Be AI," the episode explores both the technological advancements in music production and their broader cultural implications.

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AI-Generated Verses: Revolutionizing Music

The conversation kicks off with a heated exchange among the hosts about the authenticity of musical verses, questioning whether a favorite verse might actually be the product of AI. At [00:29], one of the hosts emphasizes the potential risks:

Host B [00:29]: "Mr. I got a temper, I stay hot doing numbers like K Pop BTS in the flesh while they flopping. I laugh all the way to the Deutsche Bank."

This sentiment underscores concerns about AI's ability to replicate artists' unique styles, potentially diluting the authenticity of musical expressions.

Cardi B and Offset: Infidelity During Pregnancy

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the high-profile relationship between Cardi B and Offset. The hosts debate the morality and impact of infidelity, especially during pregnancy. At [02:12], the conversation intensifies:

Host C [02:12]: "Where Offset suggested that she slept with another man while she was pregnant. And you were telling me that all the women on the timeline were totally fine with that."

The hosts explore differing viewpoints on whether such actions are acceptable, the societal standards imposed on pregnant women, and the psychological effects on both the mother and child.

AI's Broader Impact on the Music Industry

Transitioning from personal relationships, the hosts expand the discussion to the broader implications of AI in music creation. They question the future of artists' integrity and the potential replacement of human creativity with machine-generated content. At [21:16], Host B raises a pivotal concern:

Host B [21:16]: "I think artists are doing that with writing right now for sure. I think there's a lot of artists that use AI for writers, for sure."

The dialogue reflects apprehension about the authenticity of music, the preservation of artists' unique voices, and the ethical considerations of using AI to generate verses that mimic established artists.

J. Cole and the Evolution of Rap

The conversation shifts to specific artists, with a focus on J. Cole's recent works. Hosts analyze Cole's lyrical prowess and speculate on his future projects amid industry changes influenced by AI technologies. At [37:30], Host C shares his appreciation:

Host C [37:30]: "Out of all the Fridays, I think this one was definitely up there."

These insights highlight the ongoing debate about maintaining artistic integrity in an era where AI tools are becoming increasingly prevalent.

AI in Acting and Legacy Artists

Expanding beyond music, the hosts discuss the use of AI in the acting industry, particularly concerning legacy artists and deceased actors. They ponder the ethical boundaries of using AI to recreate voices and likenesses without the artists' direct involvement. At [55:35], Host D touches on a sensitive topic:

Host D [55:35]: "This is happening in Hollywood where someone's willing to sell their likeness to a studio and let them do as they with for, you know, films and stuff, commercials."

The dialogue underscores concerns about consent, intellectual property, and the potential for misuse of AI technologies in perpetuating artists' legacies without their explicit permission.

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Sports Segment: NBA Trade and Team Dynamics

Midway through the episode, the focus shifts to sports, specifically the NBA trade of Julius Randle from the New York Knicks to the Minnesota Timberwolves. The hosts express mixed emotions about the trade, reflecting on Randle's impact on the Knicks and his potential contributions to his new team. At [95:00], Host B articulates his sentiments:

Host B [95:00]: "But I just don't know if calling Anthony Towns has that dog factor in him."

The discussion delves into team chemistry, player dynamics, and the strategic decisions behind trades, emphasizing the personal connections fans have with athletes.

Tributes and Memories

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts pay tribute to NBA legend Dikembe Mutombo, celebrating his legacy both on and off the court. At [96:30], Host B delivers a heartfelt message:

Host B [96:30]: "Rest in peace to Dimbe Mutombo. You've got Mayo."

This segment serves as a poignant reminder of the profound impact athletes can have beyond their professional achievements, highlighting Mutombo's humanitarian efforts and enduring legacy.

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Closing Discussions and Listener Engagement

In the final segments, the hosts engage with listener voicemails, addressing topics ranging from relationship advice to personal anecdotes. These interactions provide a more intimate glimpse into the hosts' perspectives and foster a sense of community among the audience.

At [109:53], Host B introduces a voicemail with a listener's query about navigating relationships involving ex-partners:

Host B [109:53]: "So I just had a quick question. A couple years back, I started hanging out with this girl that was actually an ex of my best friend..."

The subsequent discussion offers advice and personal opinions on maintaining friendships while exploring new romantic interests, emphasizing respect and clear communication.

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Conclusion

Episode 307 of "New Rory & MAL" offers a comprehensive exploration of AI's role in modern music and entertainment, intertwined with candid discussions about personal relationships and the evolving landscape of sports. By addressing both technological advancements and timeless human experiences, the hosts provide listeners with thought-provoking insights and relatable narratives.

Note: The conversation includes candid and unfiltered language. Efforts have been made to maintain the essence of the discussion while ensuring respectful and appropriate language throughout the summary.

Transcript

[A]

I don't know who this man is.

[B]

You don't know who that new nigga, Let me get my shit up.

[A]

But that's.

[C]

You don't know who that new. He's a fucking pregnant.

[A]

I'm making the. This. This is my decision. It's always your decision informed.

[B]

This, it's a crazy decision for any pregnant woman to lay down and have sex with another man that is not her child. That is insanity. I don't care what scenario you painting. If you are pregnant and showing, you have not showing, but you are showing. Let's keep that in front.

[A]

If you're pregnant and showing and you know showing.

[B]

No warrior now blow for blow cold float. Just prestigious sweats and tees. No unnecessary accessories to go just for features. Proceed with throat cut procedures. He look rich but he broke just the creatures. Don't trust rappers, ho. Trust in Jesus Whole team approach Costa Rican coast On boats getting throw from top models they pop shit my click pop bottles I sip orange juice in the Vic watching the clock tick Perform a couple of hits and then I dip six figures richer than when I enter cold world Mr. I got a temper, I stay hot doing numbers like K Pop BTS in the flesh while they flopping I laugh all the way to the deutsche bank Stay the fuck out my lane Avoid the paint I'm really him Bruce Gin the boisterous Ain't I'm boisterous? Loud booze for crews from Mad Voices. It's like your team's making the choice to tank L. After L. I got to laugh. Y'all look like James Todd Smith Autograph. Maybe that's why your bitch dropped the math Go against the squad and get chopped in half? Now who hot, who not tell me who flopped? Who sell out the tours? Who rap with trap niggas that wet up your doors who go harder than them and never let off before? Who got your whore poking their head out the door Getting paid every week like you did all the chores Life's a bitch, I'm rich till I divorce.

[C]

Mal I came back in here to apologize to you once again. I hate doing this.

[B]

I don't even know if I. I don't even know if I want the apology. But I'll take it.

[C]

Just know it comes. It comes out of love because it takes a lot for me. So what happened to apologize and admit that I was wrong?

[B]

Which one of my words landed on deaf ears at first? But then you had time over the weekend to kind of sit with it and realize that I was once again right I'm always right.

[C]

But once again, last episode, we were discussing the cardi b and Offset back and forth.

[B]

Oh, that old. That tiffed.

[C]

Where Offset suggested that she slept with another man while she was pregnant. And you were telling me that all the women on the timeline were totally fine with that. It's completely okay.

[B]

Yeah. They still cursing me out if a.

[C]

Woman sleeps with another man while she's pregnant. I just thought you were gassing it a bit. Like, we were just doing some podcasting. Once we put that clip out, I even went into our own New Royal Mall community.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Every single woman in there was like, yeah, it's totally fine. To another guy while you're pregnant. Yeah, I apologize. I didn't know they were really wild in the streets like this. Yeah, I thought you were just, you know, you saw one tweet and then took it and just ran.

[B]

I'm not one of those that. That see one tweet and be like, see, this is what we need to do. Fans want it. No.

[C]

And then once it hit my algorithm, I just started seeing women throughout the entire weekend, just saying. So what's wrong with that?

[B]

Yeah, not only are they saying, what's wrong with that? They're calling me, like, all kind of names now because they feel like I am taking Offset side in the fact that he, like, they just saw the clip. They didn't see the whole conversation. We both agreed that Offset cheating is absolutely wrong. And. Yeah, you know, but I was just saying that.

[A]

But you didn't say, put him on an island and bomb him.

[B]

Well, if we put a man that cheats on the island and bomb them, then it's like, we won't have any of us left.

[C]

Who will build the bridges?

[D]

Yeah, who would be on this podcast?

[B]

Yeah, who would. Who would, you know, I'm saying, create the. The sewer system in these lovely buildings and condos that you live in.

[A]

We'll survive.

[B]

I don't know if you would.

[C]

But over the weekend as well, while I was sitting here going, damn, Maul was right. I was going back and forth with Damaris just on some fun back and forth. And then I look at my phone, like, five minutes later, and I see that there's, like, four unsent messages to Damaris's phone that she sent to me that she unsent. And I was like, well, that's weird. What did you say? Apparently, I got cussed the fuck out. I wasn't quick enough to look at it.

[B]

Why'd you get cussed out?

[C]

I'm not sure Because I think it's bad for a woman to sleep with another man while she's pregnant.

[A]

You know, I don't want to give my opinion on that topic. I just want to ask what if. Because nobody asked why you don't want.

[B]

To give your opinion. Why you don't want to give your opinion.

[A]

Nobody. Because before I give. Before I give my opinion, I just have a question. And when I was listening back to the podcast, no one asked this question. Right? This is why I should show up to work outside of society. Standards for what women should and shouldn't do. What is harmful about a woman sleeping with another man?

[C]

Ph balance.

[B]

While she's pregnant?

[A]

While she's pregnant. What's harmful? And I'm not giving my advice.

[B]

Like fudgeing with your kid in the bed.

[C]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[B]

You told y'all.

[A]

So y'all are stupid. Okay, cool, cool, cool. I just want to clarify.

[B]

Stupid. I'm stupid for thinking a woman that is pregnant with another man's child having sex with another man? Absolutely.

[A]

You're stupid for saying that it's like, with your kid in the bed.

[B]

It is. Your kid is in your stomach. That's even worse if you ask me.

[A]

Okay, so no. Actual, like, serious, like, good. No. Good reasoning.

[B]

No, that is. That's not good reasoning. You're pregnant.

[A]

No.

[D]

Mall's taking the moral angle. Tell us the scientific.

[B]

You are pregnant.

[A]

What's the moral?

[B]

You are pregnant. It should be that simple. You're pregnant.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

And this is not your child's father that you're having sex with. That's not enough.

[A]

You're not giving a good reason why.

[B]

Oh, okay. I thought that was the greatest reason why you're pregnant.

[A]

Like, I'm looking for, like, is it a health reason? Is there a moral code? Is there. Like, this is what I'm.

[B]

This.

[A]

The question I'm asking.

[C]

It's a little bit.

[B]

All of that. It's a. It's a gumbo of all of that. Moral compass is all the way off. Why are you even thinking about sex with another man and you're carrying another man's child? Why. Why is you. Why are you. Why are you. Is your body even telling you I want sex and it's not the child. The father of my child, R. Kelly.

[C]

Asked questions like that. See, where that.

[B]

I'm just saying you. You want to have sex.

[A]

Why is your body telling you that I want to have sex?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So?

[B]

So women shouldn't be mourning during a woman's pregnancy out here. Is it during A woman's pregnancy. Isn't that supposed to be, like, the most sacred time? The woman's body is going through a whole bunch of different changes. Mentally, spiritually. It's a. It's a. It's a whole different woman. Right.

[A]

It's not a whole different woman.

[B]

It's a.

[A]

Her body is. Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

One of the hormones. One of the hormones is that she gets. She gets extremely horny. That's.

[B]

Spiritually.

[A]

Physically, you're changing spiritually, you're changing emotionally, you're going through a lot. Yeah.

[B]

Mentally. Right. You're walking.

[A]

You're about to walk yourself into a hole, too.

[B]

Yes. Your body. Right. So you're going to allow this other energy from another man to come and enter that body of that sacred thing that you have growing inside of you? You.

[A]

Do you truly believe that bodies and energy are sacred? You do.

[B]

You don't. Do you, a nigga with a sick dick out here and see how your energy change, do you? Yes, I do.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Both of y'all have admitted to numerous people at the same time just on.

[B]

This podcast, none of them were pregnant.

[A]

What the.

[C]

That's true. You. Let's at least add that little tidbit.

[A]

Y'all don't know that.

[B]

Who. Who don't know that.

[A]

Y'all don't know that if they were pregnant at the time. Y'all don't know if they were pregnant. Oh, well, that was another thing. Y'all were calling men who pregnant women. Y'all were calling men who pregnant women sick. And I'm like, Cardi herself in the Internet has. Herself has seen that Cardi didn't start showing that she was pregnant.

[B]

She was like, said that. We said that. We said that. We said that. We said that. Maybe I could see it happening if she didn't know she was pregnant.

[A]

No, I'm talking about the men. I'm not talking about. I'm talking. Well, y'all were like, oh, how. Like, how could a man do that? And I'm like, a lot of men don't know women are pregnant. She might not have known.

[C]

She might have not said that on the.

[B]

You don't know. If you don't know, you don't know. Let's leave that there. If you don't know, you don't know. Then that's no fault to nobody. I'm saying, if you knowingly are pregnant and you lay down and sleep with another man, that is insanity.

[A]

Insanity.

[B]

One fifty percent.

[A]

Hold on. So what's more insane and more dangerous? Right? Just quickly Asking. Still not giving my opinion. Just being objective.

[D]

Going to school is angry.

[A]

Which one do you think is more dangerous and harmful to the baby? The mother having sex with someone who she knows has been tested or she's been tested, whatever. Safe sex with a condom. Whatever that she's having with another man or the father who's out Women.

[D]

Oh no, you're adding so many different things.

[A]

Are you going to let me talk? Whole entire episode to talk. Are you going to let me talk?

[D]

Yeah, but you coming in with playing field.

[A]

I am. Are you going to let me get your off?

[B]

Get your off. Go ahead. But when you finish I'm bombing just fine.

[A]

Do your having having sex with with another man or your. Which one is more dangerous? Having sex with another man or getting stressed out by your baby father who's running around cheating on you, coming back you or not you, but your baby father is running around in front of millions and millions of people cheating on you, disrespecting you. Which one do you think causes more harm to the baby? Which one do you think is more likely to result in miscarriage? Stress from high blood pressure, high cortisol and I'm stressing the fuck out. Crying over a nigga or a good old orgasm from another nigga. Which one do you think is more harmful?

[C]

Why that scenario is insane because you just gave one scenario which is an actual legit reason why women have miscarriages and then put it against something that's nothing to do with miscarriages.

[A]

No, everybody say no. No, because everybody's acting like. Because everybody keeps saying that it's so harmful to the. That didn't make up that scenario. He is running around cheating.

[C]

There's people that are not cheating that are stressing out their baby mother that could kill the kid. Like, what are you talking about?

[A]

Okay, so if even if a whole new topic, my. It's not a whole new topic because you're missing the point. It's like flying over your head. The point is this man is running around stressing her out and nobody gives a fuck about that. People are on her saying that people like her need to be on bombs and nuked and killed on an island full of whores because she gave. Because she gave her pussy away that she fudgeing.

[B]

All right?

[A]

But it's just, oh well, you know, I mean, that's wrong. But whatever. When he's running around stressing out his pregnant baby mother and everybody knows that. Let me ask you, all I asked was which one A or B is more likely to Result in the harm of the baby. Since everybody is acting like Cardi is harming her baby. Which one?

[C]

For your completely new scenario, it would be the stress.

[A]

How is this a new scenario?

[C]

This is how I know you became a listener last time. All you did was watch the clip. You ain't listening to the whole episode because we said at the end of that, yo, Cardi really just needs to leave offset because clearly for the last 10 years he's been fucking wiling, making her look crazy and stressing her the fuck out.

[A]

Why? I said put him on a. Put him on an island.

[D]

I said he can get on the island too. He's.

[C]

We never excuse any of us.

[D]

We're not. I'm not excusing his behavior. He's awful.

[C]

Now can I answer your question with a question that's in more of this scenario that we're in here? I agree that if a man is out cheating on his pregnant girl, it could be harmful for the kid because you could come back you sticking your dick in whatever that can with a girl even if she's not pregnant. If you're just other women raw and then your girl raw. Okay, now we can all agree there pregnant or not. Exactly. We can all agree that, right?

[A]

Pregnant is worse, right? Pregnant is worse from what you just said, right?

[C]

Of course.

[B]

So pregnant, pregnancy, I mean it is a sin.

[C]

Okay, great. So we all agree there, right?

[D]

It is.

[C]

So why is it not the same thing if the pregnant woman is a different dick? Like that couldn't affect her because it was wild. Why would it be any different if.

[B]

The roles were wearing a con?

[A]

Because. And also she's making that decision and she knows what's going on. She's aware of all the factors. I don't know who this man is.

[B]

You don't know who that new nigga. Let me get my. Now get my shit up. But that's.

[C]

You don't know who that new n. He's a pregnant.

[B]

You know who that.

[A]

I'm making the. This is my decision and I always. Your decision to inform formed.

[B]

It's a crazy decision for any pregnant woman to lay down and have sex with another man. That is not a child. That is insanity. I don't care what scenario you paint in if you are pregnant and showing.

[A]

You have not showing.

[B]

Let's keep that in for.

[A]

If you're pregnant and showing and you know, not showing. Even if she. Whether she is or if she isn't you. No one has given me an actual answer of how it is harmful. You cannot explain how?

[B]

It's crazy. It's crazy to lay down and open your legs to another man when you are pregnant. That is insanity.

[A]

You're talking from. From societal standards.

[B]

No, I'm not. From just having some type of moral ground.

[A]

Moral? What's the moral?

[B]

You are pregnant. Okay.

[A]

No, but what are you opening your.

[B]

Legs and allowing another man to enter inside of you.

[A]

You are pregnant but you're not.

[B]

Have some self respect.

[A]

How is it disrespectful? What's the more.

[B]

Because you are pregnant and you're not. Are you not missing that?

[A]

No. Yes. No, you're not.

[B]

You're pregnant with another child growing inside of you. You should not be laying down with no other man.

[A]

You're not explaining anything. If I tell you you shouldn't go out in the rain and you and you say why I should be able to explain to you well, you shouldn't go out into the rain because this.

[D]

This, this because you can't swim.

[A]

You can't explain why you're just like morally.

[C]

What is the moral?

[B]

Because another life is growing inside you.

[A]

So then I should be fucking my husband.

[B]

That is a sacred time for a woman. Mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically. A woman is completely changing when she's pregnant. Why would you then allow for another man to enter your body when you have this life growing? This is a sake. The most sacred time some would say for a woman is going through womanhood through motherhood. So why would you then allow a man whether he's wearing a condom or not condom on it. He's wearing a condom, he's protected. Why would you then allow this man to enter your body when you have this whole thing going on called life growing inside you?

[A]

So what is the man exits her and when he entered her. What's different?

[B]

You said what?

[A]

What's different? What changes? Like what what is. What is the result of this man having sex with her? What changes you are.

[C]

And I just gave you the scientific one that wasn't even pregnant. If it's fucked up with a guy's going out and entering other women and then coming back and entering her. That new guy to Mall's point, you don't know what the fuck he's doing. That could fuck.

[A]

How do you.

[C]

The same way it would be if.

[A]

The man picked a nigga up off the street. Y'all don't mention the whole thing.

[B]

I don't think Cardi the at all.

[A]

At all.

[B]

But now we're not even talking about Cardi. We're just talking about women agreeing with Being pregnant and sex with another man that's not their child's father.

[C]

Do you think in your core, your heart of hearts, that the guy that is a pregnant woman.

[A]

We just said that we don't know if you knew she was he pregnant.

[C]

Is making sound decisions in the world right now, or is he a bunch of other people too?

[A]

That's a while now, remember, we're inserting things that we have no idea about. We're going.

[C]

I said, in your heart of hearts, do you think that the guy that is fudgeing the pregnant girl with a kid that is.

[A]

He might not know she's pregnant, bro.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

The rest of the world, let's keep it.

[B]

Let's keep it on. He knows. And she knows that guy has a dirty dick. They both know. They both know that she's pregnant.

[A]

That's not always true. Everybody moves like you and thinks like you, bro.

[B]

Okay? But I'm telling you, I'm glad I don't think like that scenario for you. You know, you're pregnant and.

[A]

No, not me. This. Don't put this on me.

[B]

No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying the woman. The woman knows that she's pregnant and the guy that's not her child's father knows that she's pregnant.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

And she lays down and has sex with him. You don't think that that's crazy?

[A]

No, I don't think that is crazy.

[B]

Why you don't think that that's crazy?

[A]

Because I feel like it's situation by situation basis. But at the end of the day, everybody keeps saying a woman is. When she's at her more sacred. She's at her most this. It's also when she's the most horny and she's also the most vulnerable and she's also the most lonely. So for someone to want affection and to want an orgasm, which actually are.

[B]

Don't get the rose. Get a vibrator. Get the bullet.

[A]

I feel like this is one of these things where I feel like it's very easy for men to talk from these standpoints because you're talking orgasm. Because it's just.

[B]

And I'm talking. I'm talking.

[A]

I said four other words. And you just. The vulnerability, the loneliness, the hormone.

[B]

I'm lonely, so let me go get some. And. And how you lonely?

[A]

Y'all keep putting it on that she just picked a up off the street. Y'all keep putting.

[B]

I'm not saying she picked him up off the street. I'm whoever it is. In general, she knows him. You've known him for years. You used to fuck him. Cool. I'm saying if you're pregnant, and remember, not only you pregnant in this scenario that we talk about while we're having this conversation, you're married still. You already have a family with this person.

[A]

We don't know if she was still married. She got divorced a while ago. We don't know if she was still married at the time.

[B]

Well, you were married. You mean to tell me that you the guy that would have sex with you knowing that you're pregnant. You think that that's, like, cool to lay down with this dude and he knows that you're like, that's the type of nigga you want to fuck with. That would you like. Well, that's.

[A]

Y'all putting something on. This type of.

[B]

No, I'm saying. I'm saying the general let you have.

[A]

That's the type of. But there are plenty of men who meet women who are pregnant and alone and doing alone and get into relations with them and end up in that childhood.

[B]

Get into a relationship with a pregnant woman is insanity. That's crazy.

[A]

That's your opinion.

[B]

That is insane. That is insane.

[A]

Like, what are we talking about here? It happens regularly. People fall in love.

[C]

Regular shit. It's crazy.

[B]

Insane is insane. Out. That's the I just saw outside right now, butt naked, scratching his head on the corner. Insane. Mental health.

[D]

That's fine.

[A]

I didn't want to. So my purpose.

[D]

Dot com.

[A]

My. My purpose in coming in here was. Again, I didn't even. I don't. I have not given my opinion on this. Yes, you have. No, I haven't. You haven't.

[B]

You just had. You just gave it. Whether you want to, wanted to or not. You just let us know what side of the fence you on.

[A]

That's fine. No, you really don't know what side of fence.

[B]

Okay, so what side of fence you on?

[A]

Doesn't matter. My only point.

[B]

You can't have this whole conversation and you say it doesn't matter.

[A]

Because my only point in. Only my only point in saying any of this to y'all when I was listening was that you guys sounded very like, just health wise, you sounded uninformed. You sounded like you didn't know what you were talking about when it came to moral compass, okay?

[B]

You being pregnant, laying down with another man.

[A]

You keep saying immoral, but you can't name the moral. That's broken. You can't name the moral.

[B]

That's being respect.

[A]

What's disrespectful.

[B]

It's a life growing inside you. That's not this.

[A]

So she shouldn't. So wait, so hold on. All right, so this is what I want to get to. So. Because the life belongs to this man, which the life doesn't belong to him. It's also. She created it too. Because the life. The baby. Because the baby. Because the baby.

[B]

That's not his child. What are we talking about? The life doesn't belong.

[A]

I said it's not just his child. I didn't say that too. Okay?

[B]

I said that's his child. His life. His child's life is growing inside of it.

[A]

Okay? Child's life.

[B]

Their child's life.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Not this. That you. That you talking about on the side. Not the side, but at the end.

[A]

Of the day, you ain't that horny. But. But at the end of the day, if this life is so precious, then why should I fuck my husband either? Nobody has said she should.

[B]

What are we talking about?

[A]

It's still her body. It doesn't matter. You talking about.

[B]

We know it's her body.

[C]

What rap did we just throw it unbothered?

[A]

Your dick is not touching the child. The child is unbothered.

[B]

Still chucking the child. What are we talking about? I'm not even talking about that.

[A]

He's saying that's his child. That's his child.

[B]

Yeah. Me and my girl, we're creating a life together. So because now I cheated. We're not together. That means. Yo, a nigga you used to talk to. Because your pussy is horny right now your clit is off. You want this to pull up? And you. What are we talking about here? Now, when the come in the house and kill everybody, then y'all gonna say.

[A]

Is crazy because a woman using her body for what she want to use it for gives men excuse.

[B]

No, because my child is. And our child is growing inside of you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And we going through. And we going through some right now. Because I'm a piece of. And I cheated. We got that part. But that don't mean go lay down with another man. Open your.

[A]

Can we all just acknowledge that the baby is unbothered? Can we all just acknowledge that the baby.

[B]

We don't know that. We don't.

[A]

That people with science degrees who went to school for eight, ten years know that.

[B]

Lot of got dumb dick. A lot of got dumb dick. And now my kid is dumb when he come out.

[A]

All right, so we being silly. So we're talking silly and we're talking silly. Like podcast talking out of here.

[B]

That's crazy that you think that. That's not a problem. That is crazy. I don't think it's not just you. I'm glad Cardi said that because we had a whole bunch of you skeezers pop up out of the woodworks. All the skeezers came out. We identified all skis.

[A]

You know what's crazy is that I think that. I think if the conversation would have been. I think if the conversation would have been about a regular, two regular people that we don't know about, you wouldn't have gotten.

[B]

No, I wouldn't know. No, I wouldn't know. We talking about anybody that's pregnant. Any woman that's pregnant, if she's laying down with another man that is not her child's father, she is obviously she's hurt, she's going through some shit, but she's not making a wise decision by laying down. My point, that is not a wise decision.

[A]

My point.

[B]

I don't care how much you hurt and heartbroken that your man cheated. You do not, lady, you have a responsibility as a mother, as a woman that is going through pregnancy.

[A]

You have not named how it harms the child yet. Other than silly little that you can say out of pocket.

[B]

Why you keep saying harm the child. I'm not necessarily saying you have a.

[A]

Responsibility as a mother.

[B]

I'm saying have some morals about yourself.

[A]

Or is it responsibility to a child?

[B]

You should be so.

[A]

Which one is it?

[B]

Listen, you should be so disgusted by men at that point, if willing to not be with your husband, that you should. You want. You shouldn't even want to look at another man, let alone open your legs for him. What are we talking about here? You're pregnant. Go sit down and go through this beautiful journey of motherhood without opening your legs for some dirty dick from uptown. Go sit down. Go take a vacation with you and your girls, your sister, your mother, the women of your family, and go through this beautiful journey of motherhood with other mothers. Don't surround yourself with no dirty dick, nigga. What the fuck are we talking about here? How are we even trying to. How are we even trying to validate such malarkey?

[D]

I think Mal's point.

[B]

What are we talking about?

[C]

From what I'm gathering, he landed my. I really don't have much to add.

[B]

Are we dirty?

[C]

That's all I'm saying.

[B]

And again, keep it on. Keep it on. Keep it on par. If he knows that the woman is pregnant, not if he doesn't that's not his fault if he don't know. He knows that that woman is pregnant.

[C]

He got. He's dirty.

[B]

How you even get horny to be like, yo, I'm about to hit. What are we talking about?

[C]

You're a deviant if you do that.

[B]

What the are we.

[C]

If you see a pregnant woman, be like, yeah, I want to that girl.

[B]

Yo, and it's okay. And again, I don't back to the beginning of this conversation, this topic. I don't believe for one second that.

[C]

Like, that's a predator. Like, I really think that could be on the spectrum of being a predator.

[B]

If you are, you are not you targeting pregnant women. Yeah. That is crazy.

[C]

What other nasty shit do you be doing?

[B]

That is crazy.

[D]

God's threesome.

[B]

That's crazy to me. I don't think that anybody could sit here and say that. That's. There's something. Even if you don't want to use the word crazy, you can't say that. Yo, that's cool.

[D]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

Yo, that's cool. Yeah, she pricked. That's cool. Then what? What are we talking about?

[A]

I'll leave with saying this. I think the reason why so many people came out in support of this situation when it comes to Kyle, women are hurt is because people have. We've all watched for 8 years what cardi Kry and on the Internet and go through all of these things. So I think at at one point a lot of women that I talked to was like, yo, if it was a normal regular situation, I wouldn't support it. But at this point, shorty, like, at this point, like, I can't blame her.

[B]

Let me ask you. Okay, so let me ask you a further question. What is that doing what is that helping you go out and lay down with another man while you're pregnant?

[C]

You know, they want to get your lick back.

[B]

Like that's what that is. You got your lick back.

[C]

And first of all, to think that getting your lick back would not even cause more stress, you're. You're nuts. Like, if you think that's going to make this current up situation a better one and less stressful. Buggin. There's an already look what it already possibly started. You don't think Cardi B's hasn't been stressed out the past week?

[B]

And again, I don't think Cardi stressed.

[C]

Bad for the kid. Right?

[A]

I don't think so either.

[B]

So pissed off and so disgusted by men at that point that she couldn't even tolerate.

[A]

Oh, and that's another. That's another thing. And I don't really want to. Y'all didn't really do it, but I've been seeing it on the Internet a lot, and I really don't like seeing this. I think it's really disrespectful when people say why. A lot of people were like, ma, how could you think she didn't do that? Look at her past. Officer did the same thing. Throw her past in her face. They told me not to.

[B]

We spoke on that. Cardi, she comes from a situation of having to be in survival mode, but.

[A]

Nothing that she has shown. Everybody keeps saying, like, oh, she's a stripper. Why wouldn't she do that? Like. Like disrespectful. And it's like, if she really wanted. If she was really a vindictive type of person or went to do shit when she's hurt, she could have been wiped the floor with that nigga. She could have been. Walked him down.

[B]

I think.

[C]

I don't think I'm going to sound like a caper here, but outside of her past of being a stripper, once she stopped stripping, Cardi never had some crazy past. I mean, if she did, she hit it. We don't know. She was never running around crazy from loving hip hop to now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Even before she met Offset and they got married. Like, when did we ever hear Cardi was really with somebody? And that's gossipy and corny, but to bring up Cardi B's past, it's pretty squeaky clean.

[A]

And I don't like dancing at Sue's. Just outside of her.

[B]

I also ignorant.

[A]

It's ignorance. And it's just outside of her. It's like, it's 2024. We're still giving the negative connotation that strippers are whores.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Which is crazy.

[A]

Hey, let me let y'all know, like, as like a normal woman with normal friends. The women that be in the house that y'all don't see, they in the house with niggas. They're the whores. I'm telling you. I'm telling y'all this. The women that be secretive in the house, they're the whores. You just don't know their business. Don't put being a whore on strippers. I know plenty of strippers that are not whores.

[C]

Same. And even if you get into some of that nasty accusations of Cardi, like drugging men in motels, I don't know if that's true or not.

[A]

That's what she said, but, you know, you only love her own words. But she's also an entertainer.

[C]

But she also like. And I don't drug men. But she never beat again. Like, she never.

[A]

Yeah, again.

[B]

At that point in her life, she was in survival mode.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

She was a different person. She's no longer in that space. She's not living to survive. She's not out here doing for survival. She's very comfortable, very well off taking care of for the rest of her life. She. Cardi, will be just fine. I believe that Cardi is the type of woman that if her husband or ex husband and cheated and she's pregnant, I believe she would be so disgusted with men that she would. The thought of another man even talking to her would make her throw up. That's the type of energy I get from Cardi. So her saying that again, I still think that was just a. Offset's head up. She probably.

[A]

She probably was still. She probably was dating people, texting, whatever.

[B]

But I, you know, I actually Having sex. No, I don't believe so. I don't. I don't think she was. I think she said that to hurt him. I wish she didn't. Because even her saying it is kind of like, whoa, it's crazy. But when I get behind all that, I know she's hurt, she's upset, and at that point she'll say anything that she think is going to pierce his.

[C]

Soul to close the topic. And again, we don't know these fucking people. I think the actual scenario. I actually have confidence in saying this. I think they were completely broken up. She was dating, did not know she was pregnant yet Offset knew who she was dating. They were separated, and obviously whoever she was dating, she was sleeping with. Then she ended up finding out she was pregnant. And Offset used that information against her. I don't think she knew or he knew. Yeah, but Offset knew that they were split and she was talking to someone. When you break up with your girl, especially if you have kids, you would know if, like, what's going on.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So she was probably dating somebody. Seriously. And of course they were having sex. Then she found out she was pregnant.

[B]

Our whole conversation.

[C]

And it was Offset.

[B]

So strictly based on if she knew she was pregnant and the other dude that she was sleeping with knew she was pregnant. That's absolutely crazy. Anything else is like, nobody's at fault. If nobody knew that they were pregnant, then you can't blame them for that. You can't blame somebody for what they don't know. I'm Saying if a woman is knowingly pregnant and she lays down with another guy, he knows she's pregnant. That's fucking crazy. That's all. Sorry, Baby D. I ain't mean to give you that. And I ain't see you in a couple days. That energy wasn't even meant for you like that.

[C]

Yeah, and I don't even like revisiting certain topics, but we had to do it with Damaris here.

[A]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

I didn't. I was sick. I wanted to come into work so bad because I knew that it was going to be a shit show. And then I listened and I said, wow, a shit show. How did I know?

[B]

So, but what made it a shit show, though?

[A]

You said that you need to put all whores on an island and set off a nuclear bomb.

[B]

All whores that agree that what she did was like, yes. Out of all the girls that was like, yes.

[A]

People have done. And we have talked about on this podcast, though, people agreeing that Cardi should get her licked back. Whores island bomb.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Not that she shouldn't get her lick back. Getting her lick back while she's pregnant is fucking insanity.

[A]

I think y'all need to remember you don't own women and you don't own their body. Even if you put a baby. Nobody don't own their bodies.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

Even if you put a baby in them, you do not own.

[B]

You don't own nobody. You're correct in that statement. Nobody owns anybody.

[A]

That's.

[B]

But.

[A]

And that's just.

[B]

As a woman, you should have a certain level of self respect and morality.

[A]

And nobody has explained to me why it's not moral or disrespectful. And so therefore we end the conversation and that's it. We can agree to that. You can answer my question.

[C]

One more question. This has nothing to do with Cardi B or their situation at all. Just the scenario. I'm going to take it there. Are you. Do you think it's okay if a woman swallows some nut while she's pregnant? Because that includes sex.

[A]

I can't. Like Rory.

[B]

I think she jacking that.

[A]

This why. This why. This is why. I like, I can't.

[C]

That's a crazy thing to jack. That's like when old boy said, six, nine is the only snitch we jacking.

[A]

You are so.

[C]

It's the same thing.

[A]

Idiotic. Like the fact that you think that that would even reach that baby. You are literally.

[B]

No, answer the question.

[A]

You are literally idiotic.

[B]

Answer the Question.

[A]

Do I think health wise, is it perfectly fine? Yes. It causes no harm to her or the child? No. Causes no harm to her or the child. Nutritional benefits, health wise, causes no harm to her.

[B]

Let me tell y'all something. Yo, Pear, all I hear is y'all.

[A]

Speaking from y'all ego. I do not hear anybody speaking from my ego.

[B]

Hold on. Anybody out there listening? Let me tell you.

[D]

I. So if.

[B]

If you're. Ladies, if you're pregnant, knowingly pregnant, and you lay down with another man and you let him come in your mouth and you swallow.

[A]

Don'T say, for domestic violence. Advocate for domestic violence. I'm advocate for using their body.

[B]

If you pregnant with my child and you. You another man and you swallow.

[C]

No, but anyone listening, Maul is joking around. This is just for content purposes. To any advertisers listening, this was all. He's joking.

[B]

All right. Where's my camera at? Yo, listen, ladies, if you are pregnant with another man's child and you sex with another man, double down.

[A]

Double down.

[B]

If you swallow. How's that? A little better. No. You deserve everything that's coming to you.

[D]

And what's coming to him is a brand new pair of Levi's from Beyonce. Did you see the commercial, guys?

[B]

She looks great.

[D]

Let's change the channel.

[B]

She looks great.

[D]

This is fun. I think this is a good promo.

[B]

It better be.

[D]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Yeah. She looks amazing. Of course she looks amazing. I forever want to see Beyonce pull out a. Pull out of some jeans for the rest of my life. Play down on a loop. She looks great.

[C]

She looks amazing. This commercial is weird.

[A]

How is it weird?

[C]

It's weird.

[D]

Can we acknowledge how mall. I mean, this is like your era. Is this what washing machines used to look like? What the hell is that?

[C]

It's like the old scuba.

[D]

What is that?

[C]

That looks like what Cuba went. Went underwatering.

[D]

Yeah, it looks crazy.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[D]

Oh, you know, never seen that. I was born in 92. I've never seen a washing machine like that.

[C]

Born in 90.

[A]

Neither have I. Mal, have you ever been in a commercial or, like, did any acting work in a commercial?

[B]

No.

[A]

You've done acting work?

[B]

Well, outside of our stuff, have I done acting work? No.

[A]

I would. I mean, you went to a performing arts high school, so I figured I would ask.

[B]

I mean, we had that. We had acted on stage. Not like commercial like that. We did a lot of, like, theater play type stuff, but not like commercial cameras.

[A]

Were you the lead in any of those plays?

[B]

I had solos and some in some Songs.

[A]

Yeah, I was just wondering, like, if you. Was that in high school or if you was like, a tree.

[B]

No, I could really. No, I could really sing at one point. Like, I was really. I could really sing.

[C]

Do you have an IMDb page?

[B]

No, I do not.

[C]

No. That work? Okay. Damn.

[A]

Rory really started typing.

[C]

I don't know. Like, even extra work gets put on there. Yeah.

[B]

Never did. No acting. No commercial acting.

[A]

Okay. I think you would be good at it. That's why it's never too late. Start a new career podcast. And it's kind of tanking.

[B]

Is it?

[C]

A little bit.

[B]

They're giving these white. Never mind.

[C]

I feel like Amara would just destroy a commercial set. Like, she's adorable and would be great as, like, one of those toddlers for any ad. I just feel like she. She put everyone in overtime. Like, union fees would have to go longer. She would be a menace.

[B]

Amara would be perfect as that new. Remember the Pepsi girl that they used to have?

[C]

Yeah, I remember.

[B]

Amaro beats dope or something like that. Like the redheaded. Redheaded. Little curly. Curly hair.

[C]

So you're encouraging me to have my daughter drink these sugary beverages that they're poisoning us with, is what you're saying. I mean, you encourage that type of.

[B]

You drank it. You're still here, right?

[A]

Is he.

[B]

Oh, he's here.

[A]

Is he here?

[C]

Depends. The day, the.

[D]

Speaking of children on set, the last shoot I did was my first time working with a kid. Out of context, that sounds crazy, but it was a. It was a scene where I played the dad. I had a wife, and then there was a grandma, but there was a kid. The kid was, like 7 years old. And the way that the production. And like, the parents there. And, like, the. There's, like, a guidance person on set, too. They are. So, like, the kids only allotted so much time on set during a shoot day, you know, so it's like they are very, like, make sure the kids, you know, fed. Having a good time. Like, they check in every 10 seconds even when we're shooting. They're, like, right off camera to make sure everything's fine. So it was very. At least from the only experience I've had, like, very professional. Like, by the book. They don't play when there's kids on set.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

No, there's a lot of laws and. And contractual things that have to be in place when kids on set, for sure.

[D]

Yeah. So that's. I mean, very limited experience. But it was, yeah, very interesting to see how different they are. Like, you know, versus treating Us versus a child talent. It's like night and day.

[C]

The craziest thing when I was working, like, in production was we did a campaign for Estelle and we had cats on set. Like, a cat was part of the single artwork and, like, some of the video stuff we were doing. I'm thinking with like, my novice production experience at that time was like, all right, I'll find. Find a cat. That should be cool. I didn't know about, like, the actual union laws when it comes to animals. We had, I think, 10 cats on set. Like, in a small, like, you know, production, white psych type of cats just roaming about everywhere because you can't have just one. It was one of the worst experiences, like, just on the white psych.

[D]

Nice.

[C]

And of course, the only person that has 10 black cats is a cat lady.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

She looked just like, you know, in Home Alone. The woman with the pigeons.

[D]

Oh, I love her.

[C]

She looked just like her. We had to do a two day shoot.

[D]

Wait, wait, no mall. Because she was a hero.

[B]

All right?

[C]

She was scary at first, but she.

[D]

Yeah, she was. She was pretty, Julian.

[B]

I love her.

[D]

Well, she was shown to be scary, but she was. She was a really nice, sweet woman. And then Kevin's up a bazillion dollars and gave her a dove. Homeless, feeding pigeons. He goes, thanks for rescuing my life. Here's a dove for a Christmas tree that you don't have.

[B]

You don't remember that it symbolized something deeper?

[D]

No. I should have cut her a check.

[C]

She was homeless.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

What's she gonna. What's she gonna hang the doves on a bush?

[C]

The other pigeon.

[B]

Yeah, she's gonna put it around one of the pigeons next, like a chain.

[A]

Stop.

[C]

So in. In the artwork, right, It's. It's a black cat between a chick's legs. Like, she has her legs.

[A]

Oh, that shoe.

[C]

Oh, I think it. It's here. It's right there.

[A]

I'll grab it.

[C]

Yeah, grab it so we can. I forgot the actual artwork.

[D]

Single called I'll pull it up.

[C]

So, yeah, Aristotle directed this, and I had produced it. We had gotten a woman, a stripper.

[D]

Oh, that one.

[C]

Who I knew at the time to lay like this. And for those listening audio, watch the.

[D]

Video, go to YouTube. This was in our bathroom for a while until it got cracked.

[C]

So now this woman is laying on her back, right? And we're trying to get. I'm sorry. It wasn't black cats. It was white cats. Now the pigeon lady and cat lady is damn near squatting over this girl's face the entire time trying to get the cats to behave, and then that wouldn't work. They grab another cat. So imagine a woman that looks like the Home Alone pigeon lady squatting with her ass in the face of this woman trying to keep her legs up with a cat there. And everyone's looking at me like, rory, figure it out.

[D]

So they just. Photo. They've just photoshopped the woman out of this. The final.

[C]

No, she kept, like, running away so we could take the photos. And then she run back and, like, it almost looked like the Boston Crab that she was putting them in.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

So I listen all for the love of art first.

[B]

L. Yeah, I get it. All right, Rory, why are you talking about cats?

[C]

I don't even know how we got down that path at all.

[B]

It's all good. I don't. I don't mind talking about cats, but we got some new music this week, though. Back to your boy, J. Cole.

[C]

It was. It was a good Music Friday.

[B]

A lot of good, good. I don't know if it's. Was it good Music Friday or was it just Music Friday?

[C]

No, it was a Better Music Friday.

[B]

Better Music Friday.

[C]

Yeah. Out of all the Fridays, I think this one was. Was definitely up there.

[B]

I like that. The Weeknd and Carti record.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not mad at it. I've. I expected worse from Carti. I'll be honest. I don't want any smoke with his fan base. But he impressed me more than what I thought he was gonna bring. I thought he was just gonna go like. Like, super full artsy and just stay silent. And it was gonna say, featuring Playboi, Carti. Like, it was gonna be an empty verse. That's really where I thought they were gonna take it.

[B]

The record is dope. Yeah.

[C]

It's cool record.

[B]

Neptune's produced it, right? Am I correct in saying that? Is that enough, dad?

[C]

I'm not sure.

[B]

I think it's a Neptune's record, right?

[C]

Did they do While Julian looks it up? Did they do their YouTube conspiracies of the Illuminati and the devil in this one yet? Because they weren't even trying to hide. I think they were trying to. That would be the rollout.

[B]

People play into that. Of course they know. They know the images to use and visuals to use going down these rabbit holes and to, you know, do these videos breaking down the record and the images. Like, all of that is for the. The sake of the record doing well.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though the weekend doesn't need shit like that. He's obviously one of the biggest artists in the world. But the record is hard, though.

[D]

Gunner Stahl produced the video to the director. The video, I should say.

[C]

I like the video a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's tough sometimes. Just like get simplistic videos like this to work. And they knocked it off the board. I thought it was great. And the song is great.

[B]

Song is fire.

[C]

What do we think the direction? Because Weekend has kind of had a theme or a personality for the last few albums.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I can't quite figure out what this one's gonna be off this first single.

[B]

So the artwork is interesting.

[D]

It's looks like he's going through it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Off a pack.

[B]

He has a mask on, right?

[D]

No. Well, on the single artwork. Yes, you're right.

[B]

Single artwork, yes. So is he back? Is he behind a mask? Is he. What is he doing? Is it. Because this looks a little mf. Doomish, right? It definitely does look a little doomish.

[D]

Yeah. The single. Yeah, the single work's interesting, but the album artwork is for the. For seeing his full face. It's that extreme close up with his, like, you know.

[B]

Or is this the one where he's not. No mask.

[D]

No mask, no.

[B]

No aesthetics, no nothing. It's just.

[C]

It's. It's able.

[B]

It's just Abel.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He's at that point in his career. The self title, like, this is actually me.

[D]

This is the upcoming album artwork.

[B]

I've shed. I've shed all of my personalities and all of my, you know, traumas. And now this is Abel.

[C]

I mean, I would like that from Weeknd as much as I. I've loved pretty much every Weekend album. And I do like when he gets in his, like, alter personality bag. But just a straight up weekend album. Like, not. I don't want like another house of balloons, per se. I'm not gonna tell the artist. Of course I would want that. Telling an artist this far in their career. Can you go channel that again? Like. Yeah, I don't want Nas to go make Illmatic 2. I'm cool on that.

[B]

No, he gave you Stillmatic, which.

[C]

Which was a classic.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But sounded completely different. Definitely nothing like it. I would like to see Weekend just get back to the basics. Like, there's no gimmick shit here. It's not pop. It's darker. Even though he makes great dark pop records. Just a dark ass album I'm with.

[B]

Is that Carti on the record?

[C]

What you mean?

[B]

Because before I. I just listened to the record. I didn't even look at the, like, who was Featured on it, and I'm listening to it, and then when I saw that it says Playboi Carti. I didn't think that that was playboi Carti at all.

[C]

Who did you think it was?

[B]

I don't know who I thought it was. I just didn't. When I. When they said Playboi Carti and then I saw the video, I was very surprised. Like. Like, that sounds totally different than Playboy Cardi.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So what are you suggesting that.

[B]

Is it Cardi?

[C]

Is it someone else? Or is it AI? Is what you're saying, Is it Cardi AI?

[B]

Is it. Yeah. Is it Cardi AI?

[C]

That would be very much a Cardi move. Even what he did with Aiden Ross, like, yo, give me. What was it, $2 million? I'll come and do an interview with you. He was like, in the hallway and was like, yo, let me get the. Let me get the back end and dipped. I can see Cardi leaning into it. Like, that wasn't even me. That was my AI shit. Because I had my own verse. That would be some Cardi shit. And all his fans would be like, that's genius.

[B]

Because even. Even in the video, if you look at the video and pay attention, like, he's not really performing the verse like that.

[C]

But that could also just be another card, though.

[D]

This is what he does.

[B]

He's.

[C]

He's had a lot of different rap voices.

[D]

He's on, like, his fourth voice in, like, the last two years. Because I heard a song that I really liked that he put out maybe a year or so ago, and I was like, this is Thug. It's definitely. It's. Yeah, there's no way. This isn't Young Thug.

[C]

He went through a future.

[D]

It was Cardi. He sounded exactly like Thug, which he still kind of goes, like, oscillates between that voice, the future voice, and, like, the whiny, classic Carti voice.

[B]

So you think it's him? You don't think?

[D]

I do think it's him. I just think he's one of those artists that always depending on the track will change his voice, his tone.

[B]

Well, if it's his. If it's. If it's Cardi AI, isn't it? Essentially, it's. I guess.

[C]

Well, I was going to ask you guys that question. How do you feel about an artist doing their own AI of themselves? It's not like an artist just put. Featuring PlayBoi Carti and ran something through an AI program. Like they were. I don't know why they would write something and then Have AI do it like, okay, so it's pretty lazy. Just take the night to record it.

[B]

So what if he didn't write it it and they're just using the AI Cardi? He didn't write it, but he'll perform it. He'll. It'll be his name on the. On the feature.

[C]

I mean, I wouldn't care because when it comes to music like this, I don't particularly care who writes it. So if. If he had 10 human writers, I wouldn't really give a. So why would I really care if AI wrote it? So you now, if it came to certain other artists.

[B]

Interesting.

[C]

Other artists. Yes. I would have a huge issue if I found out that they used AI to write their verse and then they just went in the booth and either sang it or rapped it.

[B]

So if somebody wrote this verse for Carti and he didn't perform it, he didn't record it, they put it through an AI system and out comes the verse on audio and he just performs the track in the video. You okay with that? No.

[C]

Then I have an issue. If somebody put like a bunch of topics in a chat GPT that they think would work for playboi Carti and chat GBT just spit back an entire Playboy Cardi verse and he went in the booth and did it, I'd have no problem with that. But if they put it. His actual voice through that too, and he didn't even perform or record it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's crazy. That's insane. Yeah.

[D]

No, there's a line to be drawn.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think. I think there's an okay line.

[B]

I think artists are doing that.

[C]

I think artists are doing that with writing right now for sure. I think there's a lot of artists that use AI for writers, for sure. But again, who, like, if they already had writers before, I guess I'm pissed because you're not employing or paying talented writers that would love the opportunity. It's still the same though.

[B]

Is it? Okay, so is it? Is it? Is it? Is it difference? Is there a difference if. Because obviously we know other writers write for artists, Right. So there's no foul play there because we know people write on records. But now when we talking about this AI technology. So now the writer gets in the booth and lays down basically, like how you do a reference track, lays down a track with a Cardi AI filter and they send it in and all Carti has to do is approve it, agrees to perform the record in the video. Are you okay with that?

[C]

No. No. Because at that point like, the writing thing is a separate thing. The performance part of it. That's where I would completely draw the line. It has to be your voice, it has to be your inflections. It has to be you actually performing this record in the booth. For sure. Because that's crazy. At that point, it's not you. We would joke, remember on Drake's album, where I was like, yo, we think that's Michael Jackson, AI or even other artists that have made whole Twitter accounts based off them making weekend records or anything. At that point, you're just there. It's. It's just because Cardi signed off on it doesn't make it Cardi.

[B]

Do we think that that's. I think that that's happening already.

[C]

I do too. I definitely do too. But what does that look like when it comes to paperwork or, like, if I go on Spotify, where I can see, it would just Writers, producers.

[B]

It would just be the writer getting credited.

[C]

But what if they do their writing?

[B]

If you're using my AI, My likeness. Right. My voice.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

My inflections.

[C]

I think you're missing my question. I'm saying when it comes to the writing side, if they use AI to write, someone comes up with, no, no, it's a.

[B]

It's a real. It's a real person writing it.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It's a real writer.

[C]

I still have an issue with it, but I'm curious what that looks like with publishing side, with people that are using AI to write. Like, at that point, whatever program you use, did they get the pub. And how do you even prove that? Like, whatever companies have these AI programs, are they monitoring everything that is being spit back to these artists? Like, and is used because, like, what was that?

[B]

Right?

[C]

I don't even know how to go about, like, all right, let's say I'm. Of course I'm a bad example, but I'm on this podcast. If I'm in a studio and come up with a bunch of fucking topics and put it through an AI program and they give me back a verse, and then I have an artist that doesn't typically write, but sings really well, and they go in that booth, sing it, and then when it's time to sign off on that record and I'm doing the paperwork and we get down to publishing, who do I credit as a writer?

[B]

No, but if it's a. If you meta. But if you know Mark Zuckerberg, if it's an actual writer writing the lyrics, though, like, no, I know, like. Like, what was that the Drake did with the pop was TaylorMade was his name, like he did with Taylor Made.

[C]

He wrote it.

[B]

I know he wrote it. You just go in there. You use a technology in the system that turns your tone and inflections sound like Tupac or Snoop or whoever. Okay. Drake wrote it, used the likeness of another artist. I'm saying, in this case, if somebody wrote that, but Playboy didn't perform it. They just used Playboy's AI. But he's cool with it. He's like, all right, cool. Like, I'll. Let's shoot the video. Let's. You don't. That's not cool to you?

[C]

Not at all. Because that's not informative.

[B]

But I think that's happening.

[C]

I. I agree.

[B]

I think it's happening. I think it's going to continue to happen. I think some of the biggest artists are going to feel like, well, I'm already who I am, and I've already achieved as much as I can probably achieve in music.

[C]

That makes you an influencer at this point. And I, and I do, obviously, everything is going that route at that point. You're a straight up influencer. You're not an artist anymore because you're not even performing the records. Again, I have no issue with someone writing something for another artist and then performing it because they can perform it better. But you're. That still makes you an artist. But once you just are signing off on someone using AI for your voice, you're an influencer. You're just popular. You're. You have nothing.

[B]

Most of these. Most of these artists are popular, but.

[C]

At least they make music. That's why they're popular at that point. You're a IG model. To me, you just the IG baddie. If someone is using your voice and writing for you and you're just signing off and saying, okay, you can use my likeness here.

[B]

I think it's happening. I think we already hearing songs and it's not the actual artist performing that record.

[C]

Outside of this one. You have any in particular that you've. You've thought that was the case?

[B]

I can't really think. But I remember. I remember sometimes hearing certain artists and I'm like, this sounds different. Like, you know, sometimes you hear artists and you're like, wait, that's who? Yeah, and like, yo, Nada's. And I'm like, really? Like, they sound different.

[D]

But I mean, to be fair, AI or not, like, we've seen what pro Tools and, like, you can do with vocals, you know, on the board. So those things have been happening for.

[C]

The amount of plugins that we know.

[B]

A lot of singers. What's the difference with AI aside from you actually being in there and it's you actually, you know, performing a record. But like, if I'm singing and I can't sing and they. They put a pitch correct on my voice, auto tune the entire record, like, you understand what I'm saying? So kind of sort of in a way, it's. It's already remnants of that happening because that's not really. It's you singing. But we put a lot of.

[D]

Yeah, there's a lot of cutting.

[B]

We put a lot of cut on those vocals.

[C]

At that point, I think I'm just trying to hold on to any bit of music integrity that's left. But you are completely right. Like, what is the difference?

[B]

What's the difference if.

[C]

If we're putting that much tune and even a lot of the tune programs come from AI now? Like a lot of stuff that my engineer Robbie uses with like actual established singers that are great, we'll still experiment with the AI programs that are attached to Pro Tools now. But when your voice is not even like that whatsoever and we're already putting you through that program, does it matter? I guess you're right.

[B]

But this is.

[C]

What does it say? No, I guess you're right.

[B]

So now we back to the point of it just being artist integrity. And we know that motherfuckers part with their integrity a lot. Like a lot of these niggas walking around with book bags and these cross body bags with no integrity in it. We know that. So at this.

[C]

There's a gun in there too.

[B]

It's a gun in there. No integrity. Chapstick, credit card, no integrity. Gun, knife, no integrity. Right. So what's the we just talking about from at that point? It just being like, well, damn, just have some integrity at least still get in the booth and lay it down.

[C]

I mean, I guess. All right, so to get there, we would have to create a settings, so there would have to be an original song that AI could pull from and some settings that you use to even continue to do that. So I don't know, are artists going to do that once? And if it's successful, let's just match this and let AI do the rest.

[B]

Why not? I'm just saying we got to start thinking that everything is changing and start questioning all of this shit. When we see the technology right in our face, we have to start questioning a lot. And I'm just saying on this record in particular, and listening to it first, of all, again, I love the record. I think the record is incredible. But in hearing it before I knew it was Playboy, I'm like, wait, that's who? It just didn't. To me, it just didn't sound like him.

[C]

Yeah. For example, Tommy Richmond's album that came out on Friday I like and I think he's very talented. But obviously you can tell he uses a lot of settings, which again is fine. Have plenty of artists that we revere that do the exact same thing. I'm not faulting him for that. But with the amount of settings he does use, AI could easily just remake that.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Like you could do a whole Tommy Richmond album probably with AI that would be really good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is. It's over, man.

[B]

Yeah, listen, that's all I was waiting.

[C]

It just depressed me just thinking about, sorry, just get to it. I'm not potting great right now.

[B]

I'm just saying, listen, listen, just get to it. Just get to it. Like I'm just trying to raise questions. I'm just trying to, you know, because I'm just saying this is. We're not far from that being like a normal thing is all I'm saying. We're not far from it. I think some artists have already adopted it and already using it and just allowing this AI technology to use their likeness. And we already know there's incredible writers out there. I think that there's people writing and there's people that are using these artists likeness in creating a song and the artist just has to agree to it and sign off on it.

[C]

But even at this point though, a lot of the writers that are doing the AI thing and making themselves other artists, they do have to perform it into the mic though.

[B]

The writer you mean? Well, yeah, they have to perform it into the mic and then the system, the technology and changes it.

[C]

That's where I'm drawing the line. Like you should at least as the artist just go perform what he wrote.

[B]

And still allow them to put all the pitch correction on there and auto tune on there.

[C]

I don't know, man. It's over.

[B]

I'm just saying, man.

[C]

Well, it's techno.

[B]

Just listen. I just, I just encourage everybody to just listen a little more intentionally.

[C]

So you're saying coders are the new artists?

[B]

I'm just saying, man. I think that, you know, with the industry, the music business is going to start, you know, just accepting this technology and using it to the best way they can. Maybe an artist can't leave a certain part of the world to record right now. Can't get the studio. But hey, we already have the record done. We'll let you hear it. Let us know what you think. Like. Cause you gotta think if you're, if you're already an established artist, one of the biggest artists in the world, and they want you to make an album and you're like, I'm not really, you know, in the mood to really go record. And they say, well, look, we got seven songs. We already did. We got these writers, we got them in there, used AI, used your voice. We want you to hear it. And they send you these tracks and it's amazing music and it sounds just like you. What do you do at that point?

[C]

Do you say, also imagine the legacy acts that really have no interest in working anymore. I don't mean to trigger Damaris. Let's use Mariah for an example. I don't think she'd ever do this because she's incredible. She's a goat. We love her. But Mariah, the AI would never be able to comprehend her vocabulary. Came up with a bunch of amazing Mariah Christmas covers that we had never heard before. And it was pitched to Mariah. Tommy Tola was like, yo, we have 12 Christmas covers ready that you've never done. You can listen to all these, approve every single one sounds exactly like if.

[B]

You did, it goes out tomorrow.

[C]

What's Mariah gonna be like? Nah, Free bag.

[B]

I didn't even have to leave the crib. They just using my likeness again. Integrity is still important to artists. Right? We know that some people are still. They hold that very high. I'm just saying we're. We're probably already in that zone where we're listening to music and it's not the actual artist that was in there performing a record. That's just something for us to think about. Like, I don't see. I. I can see, like you said, legacy artists. I can see them definitely leaning into that.

[C]

I mean, remember the last probably catalog buy up conversation we had and we were discussing AI? Like, of course, there's a million factors why these tech companies are buying up all the catalogs. You're owning their voice at that point too. You own their voice.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you can, can manipulate that through AI. If you have all the masters, you own them, you legally can put those through AI programs and it's yours.

[D]

Well, we've seen that, We've seen this in Hollywood. What you guys are alluding to, like, I forget which actor is it? Was it Bruce Willis, who's Pat, who's dying from some yeah, Bruce Willis is dying. He has a. Yeah, some. What?

[B]

I can't just throw that on.

[C]

Yeah, it's not some, like, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Do that in conversation. Bruce Willis is dying.

[C]

I thought you were about to say Die Hard.

[D]

Yeah, front dude. Frontotemporal dementia, ftd. So he's. It's like a slow deterioration. It's awful. So if it's not him, my bad. Internet, I'm also not going to Google it right now, but I'm pretty sure it's him. He basically came to an agreement with the studio and sold his likeness for, you know, X amount of money. Say just throw a number fake figure, $100 million. So they said, okay, for $100 million, you can use Bruce Willis's likeness, voice like body. It just in. Program it into future productions. And because of. He's incapable of doing these films and you know, being on set now, I don't know if they've done it or if there's things that have. That have taken place or if he's been in films or what, what have you. But like, this is happening in Hollywood where someone's willing to sell their likeness to a studio and let them do as they with for, you know, films and stuff, commercials.

[B]

If you're already a leg, like a legacy artist, right?

[D]

Yeah, you're just selling your likeness.

[B]

You're selling your likeness at this point. Like, you've already written countless hits and had amazing albums and, you know, did amazing tours. Like, really, you've done that and you're at a point now where you're like, yeah, I really just don't, you know, I don't. I don't feel like going and locking into a studio for the next 14 months to create this new album. And, you know, the label comes to you, yo, listen, we have these amazing writers, you know, we have these amazing producers and we're gonna run everything. Your likeness, your tone, your vocal inflections, everything through this AI filter. We come back to you. We'll let you know when we have the finished product, let you hear it. You let us know what you think and you get this album back and it's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. That's the level this album is.

[D]

AI could never.

[B]

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. As a legacy act, do you be like, there's no fucking way I could ever put this out.

[C]

You know, my integrity depends who it is. But outside of the music, back to like the movie thing, what's going to kill is animation, you know, like every so years, every few years, like the B movie Jerry Seinfeld did where it's like Ellen. It has every name you could think of that just does the animation thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because those people are either retired or too busy. And it's like, let's just lock them in an air conditioned studio. It'll take them one month. Do all these lines.

[B]

Yes. That.

[C]

You don't have to do that anymore. You just take Jerry Seinfeld's voice with AI and just write the script.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Another I could see that would be super lucrative is a lot of these celebrities get booked a lot of campaigns, say, like in Japan or really any, like in Asia. And instead of saving them having to go out there and shoot these things and do the voices and do all these things, if they could just agree, like, okay, here's the tech analogy that we have. We're gonna, you know, and those ads don't run here and there. So, like, say it's exclusive to Japan. We have this ad usage fee of two years. So they can get a bag, do a two year, you know, ad campaign that's running for two years in Japan, but never have to physically leave their home in LA and just take like $20 million instead of literally having to fly halfway across the world to, you know, fulfill the obligation, be on set, do the lines, do all this stuff. If they could just auto generate that, I'm sure that for me, if I was in that position, I would sign my rights to like other countries like that in a heartbeat. Like, look, you want me to be the face of this, like Asian skincare product? Sure. Just give me, you know, I'll take instead of 20, give me 10. As long as I can just stay home.

[C]

Yeah. Because I mean, even when they were doing CGI in the early days, like we're all now learning about this, but this has been in the works for quite some time. I'm sure there's plenty of contracts that are already in 2026, 2027, where actors don't even need to be there. And we would never be the wiser. I was even watching the David Chase doc on hbo. Max. David Chase, the creator of the Sopranos, I think it's called.

[D]

Why I still want to try it.

[C]

I didn't even know that Tony's mom in real life, like the actual actress, Nancy, I forgot her last name. She died during the creation of, I think the second season. I didn't know they CGI'd her after she was dead. And this was in the early 2000s.

[B]

I don't, I didn't know that yeah.

[C]

Like, there's actual back and forth dialogue between Tony and his mom and it was all CGI. This was like in, you know, 2002.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Another example like. Like with. With Fast and Furious, our beloved Dame Maggie Smith just passing. Right?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Love it. From Sister act, obviously Harry. Harry Potter. Do we think that Harry Potter, when they do another movie, they CGI AI her likeness, voice somewhere in that.

[A]

No, I think they only do that when they're in the middle of a project and that person can't complete the project. To do that for a whole new project is kind of disrespectful because now you're using this person's likeness and they're not getting paid for it.

[C]

But I think in contracts, moving forward, the same way we talk about labels taking life insurance money out on artists that have some gang history.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm sure the standard at some point when it comes to actors is you're literally writing your life away. Like, if you die, we can just redo this. Even if you don't die, when you die, way better.

[B]

If I own Harry Potter the series. Right. Then I own the characters in that as well. So with Dame Maggie Smith's character, her being, you know, her passing away now, you can't see them doing Harry Potter where there's just.

[C]

Like the character.

[A]

You don't own the. Like, the character is the character. She's not the character. Because there's no.

[B]

But if you just use the voice of her character in that.

[A]

But that's not the characters. Like, the character doesn't have a voice. The character has a name. It has a definition of his personality. And it has.

[B]

The character doesn't have a voice.

[A]

The character doesn't have a voice. No. The character is from a book. The character does not have a voice. Are you seeing what I'm saying?

[C]

Right. With a loophole there as far as repurposing that. Because they own her likeness as that character. And if they want to go do any type of Harry Potter reboot, they don't need her permission. They can use all her footage. They can use her voice. They can do anything they want.

[A]

Yes. The past footage, they cannot go and create new footage. They cannot create new voices.

[C]

Fair. And even if that's true, I think that's going to change. I think that'll be standard within contracts moving forward. Like your voice as this character, we can manipulate for the rest of our lives to use.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Okay. He just saying that was a big part of the strike.

[A]

I guess that. Yeah. The actors voted as they should.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Guys, remember when south park killed off Chef?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And they basically, what happened in real life was Isaac Hayes, who voiced Chef, got in a really big fight, contractually, with the creators of South Park. They basically told him to go himself.

[C]

It was over Scientology. Right.

[D]

Was it a religious dispute? I thought it was money.

[B]

Because they were telling Isaac Hayes to himself is insane.

[D]

Yeah. They got to that part where they were like, this isn't gonna work out. So they.

[C]

I believe he was a Scientologist, and because they did that episode, he was like, I'm not with y'all.

[D]

Yeah, well, great episode, too. But they. Tom Cruise before a crash. That was such a good episode. But anyway, they. They came up with this episode. They basically killed Chef, and instead of using Chef's real voice, they generated. But it was, like, intentionally bad. Like, they did it on purpose. They did, like, a shitty version of, like, his dubbed voice. And it was basically. It was so funny what they did to him. They made Chef just want to the kids, and then they killed him. And it's like, this whole thing.

[C]

But that was a very petty move.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It was a very south park approach.

[D]

To, like, you, like, we're gonna just. Just destroy your character.

[C]

The entire legacy of Chef was over.

[D]

So. But that's, like, another take on it is like, if you lean into it in a satire way. I wonder if there's different laws behind that, because obviously people knew who Chef was. And the voice, whether or not it's a drawing or not, people had an identity of Chef at that point. But then you just, you know, degrade him and kill him off.

[C]

Yeah. And. But I think that's, like, the good part of AI say, for, like, Family Guy, because doesn't Seth do a bunch of those voices?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, if you're one of those. And even with south park, don't those creators do a few of those voices as well?

[D]

Most of them.

[C]

Like, to me, that's where AI can be great like, that just cut production in half as far as time. Like, they can pump out more content now because they don't have to sit and record every single voice and do this, like, manually. If they can just write it and then put it in a system. Yeah, we just saved, like, six months.

[A]

Yeah, you're also.

[B]

But I mean, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

They're also gonna. A lot of people are gonna lose jobs, too. But that's with every com. Every time we upgrade a computer, someone loses a job. So.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, someone will lose a job, but I Also have seen how technology has made it to where we need more people that know how to do this thing too, though.

[A]

Yeah. You just gotta get a different job. It's cutting out creatives. That's why I tell people, do not go into creativity. Go into tech. Tech, don't go into creativity.

[B]

I think it goes hand in hand.

[A]

It can, but what they're doing is cutting creative jobs and creating more work for tech people, for people who know tech to create programs where you can manipulate these voices and do those types of things.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, but that's where schools and we know the curriculum is not trying to prepare us for the real world whatsoever. And I doubt they would change it now. But I think schools should have a drastic change in curriculum. Curriculum. Like, if everything is going to fully go this way with every career, not just entertainment, we need to prepare the next generation to be able to do that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Did you guys catch Staying on Music? J. Cole did a feature with T. Grizzly on Blow for Blow. They shot a video in New York.

[C]

Oh, and I didn't forget that mall when we started the music topic said, yo, your boy J. Cole just put something out.

[A]

Like, just threw it out there.

[C]

Yeah, just like, oh, year, I think this.

[B]

I think this is the best verse that he probably dropped this year. Well, that of the recent features that.

[A]

A few people dropped this year.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Coming off off the Collard Greens Daylight record to this in a week. Not. Cole is. Despite everything, Cole might be the best rapper this year.

[D]

Oh, quickly.

[B]

He don't. He don't get to get that crown no more.

[D]

I don't want to hear that before we do that.

[B]

He don't get that crown just these last three weeks.

[C]

I don't know if anyone's rapping like J. Cole right now.

[B]

Rapping is ass off. I'm not taking that away from that. This feature he went crazy on.

[A]

Is anybody rapping like J. Cole, though?

[C]

Is anybody one person rapping like JCole right now?

[B]

Yo, listen, man.

[A]

Is anybody rapping like JCole? Yes or no?

[B]

All I'm saying is that best rapper, he don't get to wear that crown no more.

[A]

Is anybody rapping like J. Cole?

[B]

That crown too heavy for you?

[C]

We won't even. Let's take the crowns out of it. Anyone in September of 2024 rapping like J. Cole?

[B]

He rapping. I'm not gonna. I'm not.

[A]

I can't take nothing away from. Damn.

[B]

I bet I said that last week when we came in. I said, n. He rapping his Ass.

[A]

We never gonna say direct question.

[B]

Me say J. Cole can't rap or he got a whack verse. Like, that's not. I don't even think it's possible for J. Cole to put out a whack verse. I'm just saying when you start saying he's the best rapper n. We took that out.

[A]

Is anybody out rapping J. Cole right now?

[B]

He rapping.

[A]

Thank you. All right.

[B]

He rapping his ass.

[A]

That boy.

[C]

SK I saw a bunch of other podcasts having like the MVP conversation of the year. I saw Futures name being thrown around, which I agree Futures had a great year. I like the conversation of let's take out the Drake and Kendrick beef. Like. Cause that obviously took up. That's the highlight of the year, no matter what. But if you take that out, has anyone rapped better than Jermaine Cole in 2024? If you include his EP and these last three features. Has anyone rapped better than Jermaine Cole in 2024? Jermaine, you can include Kendrick in the beef. Has anyone rap better than Jake J. Cole? I can't find one.

[B]

No, he rapping. He putting out a lot of heat, period. Rory, it ain't no denying that he putting out. He putting out some verses, but I'm just saying once I hear start saying best rapper. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is. That is totally. We not. No rapping his ass off, though. He putting out some verse. And this verse with T. Grizzly is. Is hard.

[D]

T Got off too.

[C]

T. Grizzly.

[A]

T. Grizzly is so amazing.

[D]

Rory, you mentioned the Daylight theory, the conspiracy that you came up with of Cole choosing a side last episode. I wanted to mention, I saw on the timeline since that that a lot of people were saying that the song with Daylight was actually done in the sessions when they recorded Pie, which would have come out of the last installment of the Dreamville camp so long before the Beef.

[C]

Dude, I had every producer behind the scenes person hit me after that to try to say, yo, that ASAP Rocky was done way before it was agreed upon. Yo, that Daylight shit happened in Atlanta when they were recording, when they were doing D Day. Yeah, but if you guys remember my point before of how calculated Cole is and how much he understands perception and understands the Internet, the times I've been in the studio with Cole.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[C]

He is on the timeline. He understands everything that's happening. Wait, let's look at the optics. He didn't do that just for the of it.

[B]

Wait, hold on. So you're Saying that these verses were recorded and laid before the beef.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes, the only one.

[B]

Oh, so this done. We don't even know what he sound.

[D]

Like coming after the beef.

[B]

Oh, I thought about the old, the.

[D]

Daylight one and the ASAP Rocky one were done before the beef.

[B]

Oh, okay. All right.

[D]

But this last one.

[B]

So this is essentially the joint with T Grizzly is essentially the first time we're hearing Cole. We don't post beef outside of grippy.

[C]

Yeah, we don't know if that's a.

[A]

Grippy was done before the beef, too. Grippy was done.

[B]

So we do know. Based on what we do know from having conversations behind the scenes, this verse with T Grizzly is the one verse that he recorded and laid after the beef. Correct?

[C]

Maybe, yeah. From. From what I was told. And we never know with sources, so I don't want to say it as a fact, because that's how everything gets weird.

[D]

As a fact.

[B]

Cold boss.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[D]

No.

[B]

Why not?

[C]

That's like whole bias. No, that's.

[B]

Ask him. He know. He know when this was laid and this was written. No, I just want to know because now if this. If you telling me all of these verses is before the beef. Y'all can't talk as spices. Y'all talk.

[C]

I still think Cole has the power with all these songs to say, no, don't put it out. So I'm still standing on my point with optics, it looks like he drew a line in the sand of who he's with, who he's not. I don't care if they were recorded before. That's what I was telling everyone. That was him.

[B]

It matters.

[A]

And that's why I wanted to ask you, how does it matter? Do you think after the beat, he just lost his voice like they. They took his powers like the Monstars.

[C]

To me or happen.

[A]

I'm talking to him. He over here. Like, if this was recorded before, I know Cole can't rap no more. Dropped out the beef.

[C]

Well, first of all, my question was 2024. All these verses were recorded in 2024, period. That's what matter. Original question was, who is rap better than Jermaine Cohen? 2024. You can't find one post beef?

[A]

No, it'll post beef all January to September.

[B]

It is post beef. It is post beef.

[A]

Nobody tell me if.

[B]

Tell me if he writ this before the beef or after the beef. Oh, wait, why would I want to know what he sounds like after the beef? How does that not matter?

[C]

You got this T Grizzly record. It's crazy.

[B]

Did he record it after the beef? I think so. Now you're saying you think so. Exactly. So I'm saying did he or did he not? I just want to know. Either way, the verses is hard. I'm just saying. When did he record it, though?

[C]

Why does it matter, though?

[D]

Yeah, why does that matter?

[B]

Because if you coming after that beef and him not wanting to engage with Kendrick and doing that whole shit at Dreamville Fest, I want to know what he sounds like. Like, after that. I want to know what he's writing after that.

[C]

What do you think happened? Like, he looked like.

[B]

I don't. Bro, he couldn't. He couldn't sleep.

[A]

I want to know what a rap his ass.

[B]

What you mean? I'm just. This is not a. A logical question. Did he write this before.

[C]

After the marriage's point? Like. No, he didn't just shrink like the monsters.

[B]

You don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know that. Lose their confidence. You don't know that. It happens.

[D]

Ben Simmons.

[B]

It happens.

[C]

I just want to be on record that Julian was the one that compared J. Cole to Ben Simmons, not us.

[B]

No.

[D]

Whoa, affiliate. No, you can't blame us for.

[C]

On J. Cole, you just said he.

[D]

Was Ben Simmons providing an example of.

[C]

Someone that loves who you think Cole is.

[D]

All right, that's not at all. At all. At all what I was saying.

[C]

I had to flip it because on us, anytime we say something negative.

[D]

Paul's saying sometimes people lose their powers. The monster thing. I said the perfect example of that would be.

[A]

Explain that we understood what he was saying.

[B]

Absolutely. People lose their. People lose their confidence. Absolutely. I just want to know.

[C]

I don't think Cole lost his confidence. I think after he saw what happened, he was very confident in his decision.

[B]

Was he?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I don't know if he was confident in it. I.

[D]

From this song, just to lighten the mood here, I learned LL Cool J's first name.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You didn't know his name was James?

[A]

Ladies love.

[D]

Who else knew that it was James?

[C]

An album called that? That.

[A]

Yes. Yes, actually, we did.

[D]

I didn't know that wasn't born during the James Todd Smith era.

[B]

What you talking about?

[D]

I don't know. I heard that line. I was at the gym this morning, and I looked up. I was like, James Todd Smith. And I saw it and I was like, oh, that makes sense.

[C]

See, this is.

[B]

Well, you know. No, no, no. I got this. I'm glad that it's. It's.

[D]

I'm learning.

[B]

Yes, It's Cool to witness people learn things about rappers and rap history, like, in real time.

[D]

So, yes, Julian, when was his James Todd Smith album?

[C]

Todd Smith, right.

[D]

Todd Smith, 2006. Where's the James?

[C]

Oh, my bad, bro.

[B]

Well, ladies love Cool James. Or Cool J is what we all know is his stage name.

[A]

Lady.

[D]

Yeah, but like LL Cool J, never. I didn't even know the J was for James.

[B]

What'd you think it was for?

[D]

Just J it.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Cool J.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But it was Julian. Like Julia. Stupid it. I get it.

[C]

But great record. Who produced it? I love the beat.

[D]

Pierre Bourne.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

Which funny story with that. He didn't know about this placement. He said he found out when the song dropped that that it's his first time with a. A Cole record. He was very excited about it.

[B]

That's dope. It's pretty cool.

[C]

Yeah. Pierre's dope. I don't know, man. The pace that Cole is keeping up at right now, like the narrative is going to switch.

[B]

What's the narrative?

[C]

I think when that, when the fall off drops, I don't think we'll even be talking about that Dreamville Fest stage situation.

[B]

Just say you won't. But I'm gonna talk about it.

[D]

To be honest, nobody.

[B]

To the day I die, I'm talking about that. Get the out of here. And the record was dope. That's why. That's why I'm mad at Kogan. It's like, why would you delete that?

[D]

Well, it's also called Mike Delete Later. So he. It's not like it wasn't out of the realm of.

[B]

Was it the name of the project might Delete Later. Yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

He didn't delete the whole project.

[C]

He just deleted one.

[B]

Delete the whole fucking project.

[D]

Delete some of it.

[B]

No, no, no. Delete the whole project. Don't just delete the song. Because if that, if that song would have hit like they Not Like Us, you think he would have did that?

[A]

The song did well. You think nobody was listening to the Cole song?

[B]

Listen to what I'm saying. If the song would have hit the way Not They Not Like Us hit, do you think he would have went on that stage and did that?

[D]

Yes, that shit did hit.

[B]

And what's wrong with you?

[C]

I know, I don't. I, I.

[B]

If the song hit like they Not Like Us, do you think he would have went on stage and did that?

[C]

I don't think any artists.

[B]

What are they talking about? Just say no. No artist would have done that. No artist would have taken that song Down.

[A]

I think he would have took it down faster, you know? Now too many people listen to this now.

[B]

She think, hell, we know you love Cole. I get it. I'm not.

[A]

First of all, don't talk to me like I can't be objective. I'm not.

[C]

I think. I think if that can't be.

[B]

You can't be objective when it comes to cold. Okay, well, you've proven that. That.

[A]

How have I proven that? I was the first one coming in here saying, now, why the would you do that? I was the first one.

[B]

And now. And now what you're saying?

[A]

I'm saying that he's still the best rapping right now, period.

[B]

That's not being objective.

[A]

How is that not objective?

[B]

It's not being.

[A]

Because you can't answer who rapping better than him, so you ain't objective.

[B]

I said he rapping his ass off, though. I'm not doubting, but we asked you.

[A]

40 different times in 40 different languages, pig Latin included, who's out rapping him right now, and you haven't named anybody.

[B]

I said, he's rapping his ass off right now. That's what I said. Okay, you can't be objective when it comes to Cole. I get it, okay? You went to college when he did. He was. He was the soundtrack of your dorm room. I get it. I understand it.

[C]

That Nine Minute Drill shit hit like, Not Like Us. And Cole said, I want to delete it. EB Would be on a telephone pole like Con Edison. He would cut wires to Cole's whack.

[B]

That would be.

[C]

He would have no WI Fi.

[B]

And that's why I say what I say. That's why I feel like it was whack. Because he wouldn't have did it if that record hit like that. That. That's all I'm saying. Like.

[C]

But I don't think also, like, Not Like Us was for a specific type of dis record. Like, Cole was really just checking the temperature. Like, it wasn't one of those. He. It wasn't intended to be one of those. Where would that song play?

[A]

It ain't like it was intended to be one of those. And then it didn't hit. And then he was like, oh, I'm gonna take it down. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like dope.

[B]

That's what I'm mad at.

[C]

Check the temperature. We came in here before that. I was like. I was.

[B]

Why would you delete.

[C]

And that EP is fire?

[B]

And then tell us you can't sleep and then going to Love yours. What is that?

[C]

Gotta love yours.

[A]

Okay, well, you caught me at the perfect tie. Jump up and see.

[C]

I also think. And we can close this repeating what I said last episode. When Kendrick pops up on that album, I think Drake says something and I think the beef is back on. And I think Cole will be comfortable entering the ring again. I think there will be a Drake.

[B]

Sit down.

[C]

This is my prediction. There will be a Drake and J. Cole beaches at some point.

[A]

Well, last time I made a prediction, it came true. So y'all might want to be careful with y'all.

[C]

Kendrick is popping up on the fall off and I think Drake, rightfully so, is going to feel a way about it and he's going to say something.

[A]

And I think has every right to.

[C]

Feel we'll have no issue coming back in the ring and there will be a J. Cole and Drake beef.

[A]

But I think that. I don't think Cole would do that because I think that makes him look really whack and it makes him look like he's afraid of Kendrick even more than it already. People already think he is. I don't think that he does that. That even if he wants to. I don't think that he does it.

[B]

You don't think that he put Kendrick on his album?

[A]

No, I don't think he does that.

[C]

He definitely does. I think he might do it twice.

[A]

Because that makes him. That makes you look. Because. No, not him putting Kendrick on the album. I don't think he gets into a back and forth with Drake because I think then you look. If you respond to Drake, then you look like, oh, so you was afraid of Kendrick but you're not afraid of Drake? It looks. It look, I don't think Cole going to go out like that. He might put Kendrick on the album, but if Drake responds, I don't think that he's gonna to respond back to Drake. I can't.

[B]

But you do agree that he look a little funny taking that record down?

[A]

I don't think he looks funny taking it down. I think he shouldn't have did it. I will say a million times and die on that hill. I don't think that he should have did that.

[B]

But you don't.

[A]

But I can understand why he did it. I can understand. Doesn't mean I agree with the decision.

[B]

Why do you feel like he.

[A]

That's objectivity, by the way.

[B]

Why do you feel like he did that?

[A]

We've already talked about that a million times. A million different episodes. If the listeners don't want to hear it.

[C]

No, More if the Fall off is. Is the first certified Cold classic, even though I love of 2014 force those drive. That's a classic to me personally.

[A]

Same.

[D]

Who says that's not a classic?

[A]

Some idiots.

[C]

I feel like we still need more time, but to make it a certified. Yeah, I personally feel that way. But if this fall off is a certified out the gate we know. All right, this is a classic out. Like when good kid came out, we were like, well, this is our generation's first classic. Does that change the narrative to you?

[D]

My bit of darkness fantasy, the way.

[C]

He rapping and making music right now.

[B]

Know you said, does it change the narrative as far as what?

[D]

Yes, I think of course, if anyone drops a classic, that has to change the Nobody.

[A]

I don't think anybody's gonna give him credit for the classic. That's what I think is gonna happen and that's gonna piss me off and make me start throwing these bricks from the walls. I think nobody is gonna give him credit for that classic. I know it's gonna be a classic, and I don't think anyone's gonna give him credit for it.

[B]

How you know it's gonna be a classic?

[A]

Cuz I know. Cuz I know how you see the future.

[B]

I know it's gonna be a classic. I know it's gonna be a classic. How do you know it's gonna be a classic?

[C]

I don't know. It's gonna be one. I just know Cole is rapping really, really well, and I'm excited 100%.

[B]

He's rapping his ass off. Can't nobody take that from him. He's rapping his ass off. I'm just saying as far I want to hear because like you said, these may have been recorded and laid before the beef. That just changes things. I want to hear him post beef. Like, what is it talking like? All right, what is he.

[C]

We know he's been working on the Fall off for like two years now. He's been rapping about working like songs is probably old. So if he keeps. Let's say the fall off has 12 records just throwing a number out and nine of them were from before the beef because he's been working on it for two years. Obviously had to take a break during that entire thing, but he's back on his roll out. Is that okay with you? Because they're pretty beef.

[B]

No, I want to hear him. I want to.

[C]

What's wrong with that?

[B]

I want to hear what he sounds like post beefy. Because I want to hear how he.

[C]

Talking I think he's going to address everything on the intro, and I have no info on that. That's just my guess.

[B]

Okay, well, I'm gonna listen either way. Whenever it drops, I want to hear it.

[C]

Or the outro.

[B]

I would love. I would love for 2025 for. For this to start back up.

[D]

Well, it's gonna come back in some form because that's when the super bowl is, so.

[B]

Yeah, but that's. You know, we already know the Super Bowl's happening. I'm talking about a feature on the album, though, Biggest. The what? Okay. All right. We're gonna see.

[C]

Before we get off music. Like I was trying to tell you all, it was a very good music Friday. We got, I think, one of the best R B albums of the year. Leon Thomas Mutt Fire dope record.

[B]

That. That Mud record is hard.

[C]

Yeah. I really, really, really like.

[B]

Good video, too.

[C]

His album and about to be on tour. I look forward to that. To me, Leon is right now probably the best writer in R B. Currently high up there on production as well. So it's good to see him getting, like, his actual individual artists just due here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because everyone, your favorite artists run to him to get their sauce. So it's good to see that Galant put out an album, which. I feel like it's been a minute. He was putting out Lucy's, and I've always loved Galant, but Zinc he just put out is the name of the album. Brought Damaris's homegirl back. Nails back. She's on the album.

[D]

Great.

[A]

Does she sound good?

[C]

Sounds great. Oh, I've always With a lot. So happy that he. He put out a project. We briefly talked about Tommy Richmond on some more AI, but I enjoyed the. The first listen. I have to like, actually, I hate to say live with it, but I gave it one listen and I liked it. Yeah, he sounds cool. I don't understand the Tommy Richmond hate.

[B]

I guess people are just, you know.

[C]

Because he's white.

[B]

Yeah. Well, that adds to it. But people feel like it kind of happened really fast for him.

[C]

It did.

[B]

It feels a little plant. Ish. Okay, so you can't plant someone to.

[D]

A number one song, though.

[B]

You can't.

[C]

What sort of.

[B]

That's the. That's the definition of a plant.

[D]

Not like that.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Y'all think a plant is. If they bought him that number one. They didn't buy him that number one.

[D]

He.

[A]

He earned it.

[C]

I mean, I'm sure United Masters invested, but it.

[B]

What are we talking about?

[C]

Okay. And we're not gonna have a full plant conversation. I promise. I'm okay with plants when they're talented.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

Thank God for planting that seed.

[B]

No, look, I'm. I'm all for if the. If the plant is actually talented. I'm cool. Yeah, it's when the plant is not talented and it's like, all right, fam. We can see right through this. Like.

[C]

Yeah, it was. It was an easy listen. I don't mean that in a bad way.

[B]

It was.

[C]

Threw that on. Didn't feel like I needed to skip anything. It was one of those. I think I could just throw on in the car and throw my phone over there. It'd be fine. Like, it was cool. Did we miss any singles?

[B]

Ryder Odas Ryder. And Young Chris has a EP out. Case closed.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I think that's my new Jim soundtrack. They on there shooting a bunch of niggas selling a bunch of dope.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Talking a bunch of shit, but nah, they rapping they ass off. That's definitely one of my favorite eps this year. Case Closed. Odess Ryder and Young Chris. Real, real Philly. Philly balls on that joint.

[D]

So check that out. I have one. The Maxo Cream Crack era record with Tyler the creator is incredible.

[C]

Such. Such a random pairing every time, but they don't miss, like, so good. And shout out to Maxo.

[A]

Kiana's dropping two new singles on Wednesday.

[C]

I know you're excited. You saw you retweeting that.

[B]

I mean, you know.

[C]

You know how I feel about her, so I'm just as excited.

[A]

I'm so excited. She writes music for me. I'm ready.

[C]

Stuff I didn't listen to. There was a Lady Gaga album that came out on Friday.

[B]

Well, the movie is coming out next week, so.

[C]

Okay. I'm uninformed.

[B]

Well, this. This Friday.

[C]

This is around Joker?

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Movie's coming out October 4th.

[A]

So have you guys seen Mario getting killed? They calling him unlucky day?

[D]

Oh, yeah. The new song sounded like.

[C]

I saw that tweet, but I didn't click the actual video.

[B]

Why they don't. Why they doing it?

[A]

They said the song. They said the song sound like it dropped out of lucky day pocket.

[B]

See, they shouldn't.

[A]

Well, we're gonna play the song for you. We're gonna mute it for YouTube, but we're gonna play this on a snippet of the song for you so that you can hear it.

[C]

Yeah, I want to hear it because I didn't click the actual tweets when I saw it. Okay, never mind. You Know what? That's cool. That's on you.

[B]

It's the me.

[D]

No, it's not even the song. It's the visual, too. It's the same. Like, look at it.

[C]

Don't.

[B]

It's.

[C]

Don't tell me produced that because that was definitely left off Algorithm. And they was like, yo, Mario, I got this record that's.

[B]

That's very lucky day. Very Bruno, very Anderson Pac.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's cocaine.

[B]

But if it's. If it's the producers, if same producers, then you understand it. You can't be mad and not taking.

[C]

Anything away from Mario. But that sounds like lucky day right now because algorithm doesn't sound like the rest of Lucky's albums. Like, this is right now. Lucky day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That was definitely a record that didn't make it.

[A]

Yeah, they said more. They said, Mario, they were they on his ass. They like, now you want to sound like lucky day. When you fumbled the bag, you won that versus. And then in the midst of everything that was going on at the time, you said, damn. Everybody asking for my comeback. What do I do? Drop a song with Tory Lanez when I have a woman fan base. No, I'm talking about when he did the verses.

[C]

He confiscated his equipment from the cell.

[B]

You didn't hear, oh, okay.

[A]

When he did the verses.

[D]

There's a song called main one with Torey.

[A]

Yeah. Everybody was asking for you to come back. Everybody was so excited. They're like, y'all don't give Mario his flowers.

[C]

Agreed.

[A]

And then you come out and was like, you know what? Right here in the midst of all this shit, Tory Lane song. That made no sense. Who was on your team?

[C]

See, that's the thing. Like a lot of legacy acts, I'll give them bail. Because they really don't pay attention to what's going on right now. They would probably pitch, yo, Tori's hot right now. Didn't look into it. That's a team thing.

[A]

That's not a team.

[B]

Nothing to look into.

[A]

That was the biggest case that was going on at. In the middle of when he dropped that.

[C]

His monthly listeners were the same. They actually think they went up Mario's. No Tory Lane. Oh, I'm. I wouldn't do that. But I'm just saying, if you don't have a good team, they'll be like, yo, look what he's doing. Numbers.

[D]

He's hot right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Cuz he shot a woman.

[A]

When you. When you have a. When you want to appeal to women, you're going to go, just turn it on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I just.

[C]

Speaking of people, they tried to cancel me. You as well.

[A]

You as well.

[C]

Don't be mad at me. I haven't listened to it yet, but on the ride home, I am gonna listen to that. The baby album.

[B]

Why are you saying don't get mad at you?

[C]

I don't know. I feel like people try to cancel them. It's not okay to say you like the baby.

[B]

Oh, no, I don't think that's.

[C]

I'm sure that. I'm sure there's crack on there, but the baby is.

[B]

You know, he's really good. Yeah. How I felt about him, it's just, you know, went through a little personal. Some things he said he shouldn't have said. He went a little crazy on us. But talent. The talent is there, though, Without a doubt.

[A]

As long as he changes good music.

[C]

Man, he just gotta switch his flow.

[B]

Up a little bit.

[A]

It's old. It gets old.

[B]

But I feel the same way about him that I felt about Wayne when Wayne first came out. And I always told people, I said, as soon as he gets away from Manny fresh production and change his sound a little bit, like he's, you know, he's gonna hit another level. I feel the same way about dababy. As soon as he changes the music a little bit and starts, you know, switching up his flow, I think his talent and creativity is undeniable.

[C]

Wait, can we read this itunes script? Because it's already starting out funny. When it comes to addressing controversy, Dababy has repeatedly shown himself to be more. I need to know what they ended that sentence with.

[D]

Yeah, here we go.

[C]

I need to know what they said.

[B]

And who wrote it.

[D]

All right. When it comes to controversy. When it comes to addressing controversy, Dababy has repeatedly shown himself to be more than willing to respond on record after onstage remarks in front of a music festival crowd back in 2021. I would love to cut to that clip. Led to considerable national backlash. Backlash. The Charlotte, North Carolina, rapper spoke on the matter of the impact of his own love child. Okay. And then they just kind of.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Got into the. Jesus, this is long.

[A]

Oh, we were reading you guys bios at the beginning. Peach. I mean, peace. Should bring that back up.

[C]

You the ghostwriter. So you. You want to laugh at us. You wrote it.

[D]

Yeah. Those are your words.

[A]

I know, but it's still funny.

[C]

But that's like, they're going to do that with every press release for any podcast. Like, I know, real women, real opinions, real talk.

[D]

Never heard takes.

[C]

No one's Safe in this, this podcast. Finally we get to some real conversation.

[A]

Now I really wrote some bullshit.

[B]

No, that's what we telling you. Like that's what we telling you. We know that that's what we telling you.

[A]

The premise of New Royal Ma will both unexpected and long awaited conversations into the culture. Both pushing it forward. Both pushing it forward and appreciating how far it's come. Guests will be from both inside and outside of the hip hop realm. We will be deep diving into topics from hip hop, R and B and pop music, sports, mental health, entertainment and much more.

[D]

The host thought of the mental health.

[A]

Don't laugh at me. The host looks to show their growth and learn new information in real time.

[C]

No growth.

[A]

With their growing loyal human beings.

[D]

We've regressed.

[C]

We became worse people.

[A]

And learn new information in real time. With their growing loyal family based audience creating a true community.

[C]

Our audience has definitely grown. We have a true community. But everything you said before that we have regressed. We're not. We're not better people.

[A]

I came into this game of writer.

[D]

All right, well, that's. You can't bite my.

[A]

I came into this game of writer. I'm not biting you. I'm making fun of you. Call back.

[B]

I came into this game of the.

[D]

Writer, which is true.

[A]

That. That's one of my favorite clips. That's one of my favorite.

[D]

Did that ever get clipped or did I just get made fun of for that?

[A]

I don't remember. Yeah, it was one of my favorite.

[C]

Moment in the streets of all times. Definitely up there.

[D]

Who said that?

[A]

That was also like when you did. I did. You being pretentious is like one of my favorite things about this podcast because you saying I did a night in New York still one of my favorite lines that was ever said.

[B]

He lives here.

[D]

Year I was coming. It makes sense.

[A]

From petty. We get it.

[D]

Coming from France. Did a night in New York and then went to Philly with you guys.

[A]

M said. M said. Who is he? Jimmy Kimmel.

[D]

You call me Jimmy Kim. Jimmy Fallon.

[A]

Jimmy Fallon. So funny.

[B]

Oh my God.

[C]

He's just trying to bring up that he was coming from France. That's all he was trying to say.

[B]

He had to say you. That's literally all he had to say.

[A]

I did a night in New York was. Yeah, that was. Was classic.

[C]

I don't think I've ever read like a good podcast description in my life or even like an album description on DSPs for that matter.

[D]

I'm sure they're always TRA.

[C]

I don't know if that, like, has to be a theme. Even some classic albums have the worst DSP description ever. Yeah, it's always bad.

[B]

Just play the music.

[C]

And our. Ours is. Ours is up there.

[B]

Yeah, just pause. Just shut the up and pod, man.

[D]

The. The H2.

[C]

Finally, some unfiltered conversations from this group of friends.

[D]

The Hawk to a clip chick. That chick has a funny bio, by the way. Her podcast is like number two on Apple. Yeah, none of this is.

[A]

I hate. You know, sometimes I hate myself for not having audacity. It ain't about talent. I have talent. Way more talent than people holding their pinky thumb. I have no audacity. Audacity is what gets people far.

[C]

This is to write a better description on that. Or. Here's the thing in general.

[D]

Coming off her unprecedented viral moment in the biggest meme of. The biggest meme of all time, Haley Welch is ready to show the world that she's much more than a 30 second clip and she's here to stay. And then it's like the. With celebrities, comedy, sports, like.

[C]

All right, before we get to voicemails, I don't want to compliment Drake on this podcast anymore, but he might be the only artist I've seen do that in a good way. I think it was views, or if you're reading this, where he just wrote out all the. That people were tweeting like, drake is soft. Drake is pussy. Like, that was his album description all in caps.

[A]

You think he wrote it or somebody on his team?

[C]

I think as a collective, they probably did, but it was the first time I'd ever seen on. I don't even know if it was Apple music at that point. Just itunes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like a funny, creative way to put something right there. But jokes aside, Ma, I did want to check on you over the weekend. Aside from being a Knicks fan, I know Julius is your guy, so he's my guy. Seeing him being traded, I know that was a different, different, different thing for you than it was probably for the rest of us. As much as we love Julius Randle as an. As a Knick and as a Knicks fan, he wasn't my friend the way he was with you. So having your guy out of the city, I know it probably was a weird weekend for you.

[D]

Did you cry?

[B]

Did I cry? No, it was. I. I was hoping that it didn't happen. I think that, you know, when you. When somebody gets traded that, you know, depending on how you look at it, another team wants you and they see value in you. But then at the same time, Another team sees the opportunity to probably get something that they feel like is a better fit for them. I just felt like the Knicks, you know, Julius, obviously, before Jalen Brunson came and, you know, has had the seasons that he's had with the Knicks, which has been incredible. I think Julius injected some life back into the city, some life back into the organization, made him respectable again. Brought a certain level of toughness and grit that New York fans are used to. You Talking about the 90s Knicks with Doc Rivers, Anthony Mason, Oakley, Patrick Ewing, like, Julius felt like he was from that cloth of just aggressive. Doesn't look pretty all the time, but goes out there and plays hard.

[C]

I mean, we don't have this Knicks team without Julius Randle. Like, after the mellow years, it's. It went right back to it being corny for the Knicks. Nobody wanted even Kevin Durant. When it was between the Nets to the Knicks, he was like, why the fuck would I ever. There's no culture over there. We not fucking with them.

[B]

Right.

[D]

That was him.

[C]

Julius really brought the entire organization back. He made it okay for people to want to go for Brunson.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

To even be comfortable going over there.

[B]

So that was my only thing I wanted to see what it looked like with Brunson and Julius healthy for a full season.

[C]

Same.

[B]

Um, I thought that the, you know, Leon Rose and those guys in the front office would give Julius the opportunity to, you know, I just feel like you reward players for what they started. And obviously Julius got hurt last year and wasn't able to help them with their playoff push. But even when they. Once they got eliminated, you. The first thing that a lot of Knicks fans said was, yo. Healthy Julius, next year, this team could go to the Finals. You know what I mean? So that was kind of the energy going into it, and I thought that they would let it happen and let the team build off of what they started, but they felt like Karl Anthony Towns was a better fit for them and a better piece to their future. But at the same time, I mean, Julius is going to a great situation as well. He's going to Minnesota with a great young team. Superstar and Olympian with Anthony Edwards. I think he's gonna fit great over there.

[C]

You think they'll get along?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julius is a. He's. His personality. He's a very. He wants to win. And I think that as long as you're a player that wants to win, I think that other, you know, teammates. Other guys are gonna find it easy to get along with you because y'all are on at least the same page of I want to win. Like, I don't. I'm not here for no personal ego or things like that. I want to win, and I want to win now. So it was fucked up to see Julius get traded. And I know how much he loved the city. Just having personal conversations with him throughout the years. He loved New York City. He loved everything about it. The culture, just, you know, the energy. You know, it was just fun to play in the Garden every night for him. So I know that he's hurt to leave, but at the same time, I know he is because of the type of person he is. Again, he's anxious to show that Nick front office that they made a mistake.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Like, he's anxious to do that as well.

[C]

When talking with him, did he find out kind of the way the rest of us did, or is this something that.

[B]

I have not spoken to him since the trade happened.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I text him because it was a.

[C]

It was a very abrupt and weird time that the trade happens. Like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that made me feel like Julius found out maybe an hour before we found out type thing.

[B]

I hope not. I hope they gave him more respect and courtesy than that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But either way, Julius is going to be fine. He's a. He's a dog, man. He's. He's. He's going. You know, whatever jersey it is, he feels like he's one of the best players on the floor at all times. So no matter where he goes, he's going to be good. But going to the Timberwolves with that young team, and they got to the finals last year, right? Was it. Who. Who did Boston play in the final? Who did they beat in the finals? Was it Minnesota? They lost in the Western Conference in the Western Conference finals, but they got there, lost to Dallas. But I think that the Timberwolves have a good young nucleus. I think Julius brings, you know, a veteran presence there. You know, being one of Kobe's babies, you know, he brings that energy into the locker room network ethic as well. So I think it's going to be a good fit for him. But again, I was sad to. Not really sad, but it was fucked up. I was like, damn. I was hoping that the Knicks gave him that opportunity for him and Jalen Brunson to kind of see what they built all the way through. But, you know, it's business at the end of the day, and they feel like Karl Anthony Towns is a better piece for what they're trying to build, so we'll have to see how it works out.

[A]

But how do you feel about getting Karl Anthony Towns.

[B]

Karl Anthony Towns is a really good player. There's no doubt about that. I just don't know if calling Anthony Towns has. That has that dog in them like Julius come playoff time when you playing against guys like Embiid, I just don't know if Call. If call can. If he has what it takes.

[D]

I think he's gotten a fight with Embiid. That was his rival. They beat the shit out of each other.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, that doesn't really do much as far as wins and losses. You know, again, I'm not gonna sit here and act like Carl Anthony Towns is not a really good play. He's a. He's a phenomenal player. Phenomenal talent. But I just. It's certain things, man. Like, you know, it's certain things in players that I think get overlooked and you start paying attention to just the name on the back of the jersey and, you know, the stats when it's really about the other things that don't show up. And I think that Julius embodies all of those things, especially when you're talking about a team like the Knicks have. I think that he was perfect for that team. His. His demeanor, his energy, his style of play. Um, but either way, I mean, Colony Towns, Julius Randle, I mean, no, no team loses in that. I think this is more just a personal. What you think fit. Obviously, the Knicks had success with Julius. So we'll have to see. We'll have to see what happens from here on out. But it is sad to see somebody I know that personally love New York City have to leave. But, you know, he'll be. He'll be just fine with me.

[D]

We also lost one of the Nova Knicks and one of Rory's brothers.

[C]

As much as you know, I like Julius and even came out to one of our live shows, came on stage like really, really good person in the time that I spent around him, Divincenzo. I saw myself in him.

[D]

That hurt.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like I felt seen on the court. That was a while now that I think.

[B]

So you saw yourself inside of him. N. Pause.

[C]

No, it was rough, man, because the. The Nova Knicks have a special place in my heart. And like this lifelong tragedy that it's been to be a Knicks fan. Those three guys really gave me hope.

[B]

Yeah, that.

[C]

That one was tough, man. I think they're gonna now have to. McBride is going to be worked into the ground now because I just Our guard situation isn't really the greatest because Carl Anthony Towns now has to be a center.

[B]

No, he doesn't have to be. He can still play the four. Yeah.

[D]

Who's gonna play the five?

[C]

We don't have Mitchell Robinson. Who's our five?

[B]

Mitchell Robinson is gone.

[C]

He's still hurt.

[D]

Oh, but he's gonna have to play the five.

[B]

He'll be ready for. He'll be ready this season, though, right? At some point. Not in the beginning, but at some point. He'll play.

[C]

We hope. Carl Anthony Towns to start the year is going to have to be the five.

[B]

I think that's what I'm saying. I just don't. When do they play Philly? How early? How, how early do the Knicks play Philly? Where are they at on the schedule? Because that's going to be. That's going to be a game that I want to see. I want to see how Call matches up against Embiid, because potentially they will see each other in the playoffs.

[C]

So he better give him a wild elbow just for Mitchell Robinson. That bullshit that Embiid did.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we play.

[D]

The first game is November 12th at Philly.

[B]

That's early. We're going to see early.

[C]

Oh, we might have to go to that game.

[B]

Yeah, we going to see it early. We get to see it early this year. So, I mean, again, call. Anthony Towns is a really, really good player. I just don't know if he has that, that dog factor in him.

[C]

I mean, he's from the same St. Joe's hall of Fame class as my father, so I feel like he does have that dog. They got inducted into High School hall of Fame together, so, yeah, I feel like it's there if you. St. Joe's alumni.

[B]

Yeah, it has to be there.

[D]

That, that is cool. He did. He grew up Yankee and Knicks fan, so that is kind of. I always like when he's a Jersey kid. I always like when a player.

[C]

Dad played for the Knicks for a minute, too. Yeah, by a minute. I mean, like, really a minute. But.

[B]

Yeah, I get it. But it was just tough to see them trade Julius because I just wanted to see them give that unit a chance to, to achieve something.

[C]

Same. But again, outside of the personal stuff, I'm not, not mad at the trade. I, I. If everyone stays healthy, this could be the best Knicks team that we've had.

[B]

If they stay healthy. If. Yeah, I'm not mad.

[C]

OG stays healthy. In the last, since the 90s, this would be the best Knicks team we would have, period. Including Melo Stoudemire days, everything.

[B]

While you on the schedule. Can you pull up when Minnesota comes to the guard?

[C]

But they don't play each other that much.

[B]

Oh, once a year.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Minnesota only comes here once. Well, they play Brooklyn, so they'll be in New York twice.

[D]

Let's see their preseason game. October 13th.

[B]

Okay, that's next two weeks first game.

[D]

They play each other's at Minnesota. December, we play at home against them. January 17th.

[C]

We're gonna see how far is.

[B]

I'm predicting a 40, 20 game from Julius.

[C]

We should go.

[B]

He gonna have 40 and 20 that night. Man, he gonna go crazy his first game back in the game.

[C]

I've never been to Minnesota before.

[B]

Minnesota's a nice city. Really nice city.

[D]

It's not New York.

[B]

Yeah, but I'll definitely have to go to Minnesota and catch some weird comparison. I'm just saying it's definitely not New York.

[D]

Julius has played for. He's had a really great in terms of teams he's played for. I mean he did the one year in New Orleans, but he's been on the Lakers, the Knicks now with a really good Minnesota team. Like he's had a good career. Like in terms of just guys he's playing with competitive teams. Like he hasn't really played for a dud team.

[B]

I mean his career, Julius's career, what he's been able to achieve a two time, three time also now, two time all star, something like that. I mean, what he's been able to achieve.

[D]

Most improved player on the Knicks.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, you know, bringing the Knicks back to a respectable level of playing. And you gotta remember he broke his leg his first game of his career.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So this is, you know, somebody when you talk about resilience and being able to bounce back from, you know, adversity and get over some obstacles. Julius has obviously proven that he can do that. But this is just one of those things where the Knicks just felt like Karl Anthony was a piece that they probably wanted and felt like was a better fit than Julius. But I am happy that they didn't send Julius to a situation to where it would be a rebuilding thing. Like Minnesota is going to be right there at the top of the west again this year. So Julius will get a chance to go out there and bring his game and his energy to that young, exciting team. I think him and Anthony Edwards together is going to be fun to watch though. And on another note in sports, sad news in basketball, NBA legend, philanthropist, humanitarian, just the all around amazing, amazing individual. Rest in peace to dikembe Mutombo. Four time defensive player of the year, eight time all star. One of the greatest personalities and figures in the NBA that we've probably had.

[C]

One of the best shot blockers ever.

[B]

On and off the court. Just the things that he's done for his, his country, building hospitals, just literally using his light to help others. His entire career sadly passed away after a battle with a brain cancer. So it's sad, you know, you see these players that you grew up watching and, and you know, being fans of and now that you know, we're all older, but to see somebody like the Kimmy with tumble pass away is. Is definitely something. You open your phone and you see that you like. Damn. Like that. That hits a little. A little different. So rest in peace to the Kim Mutombo. Yeah, prayers and condolences to his family. And you know, hopefully the work that he's done here, it will be continued to carry on, especially in his. His native land. The things that he's been doing over there throughout the years is incredible. So again, prayers, condolences, and rest in peace to Dimbe Mutombo. You've got Mayo.

[C]

Do we have voicemails? But before you answer, Julian, remember the couple that was married In Chevy Chase, Maryland, that came to our D.C. show?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

They had mentioned that they wanted me to send a screenshot of the flowers that were sent back to me. I have it, but we lost their email. So if you guys are listening, please either send us your email or just do another voicemail so we can grab it. It doesn't have to be a voicemail that we play. I do want to send this for their wedding book, because they did ask that.

[D]

Yeah, and my bad on that. This storage, the system that we use for voicemails, doesn't have much storage. So after I play them, I tend to delete them immediately. So that's my fault. So, yeah, send that voicemail, send another voicemail, put your email in it, and then we'll get it settled.

[C]

How do you feel that you'll be in someone's wedding book?

[B]

I will be in the wedding book.

[C]

Why? Well, in the screenshot, because, you know, you could put a message when you order flowers to send us someone. Like, it's from the new Royal Mall team. Yeah, you're gonna be in someone's wedding book mall.

[B]

Oh, my.

[C]

Like, at that.

[B]

Yeah, but you meant like my face.

[C]

I could send them photos of you too.

[B]

No, please don't.

[C]

Like, just random photos. I could send.

[B]

I'm cool. Mall is good enough.

[C]

You know, Why? I love when it's your birthday because your sister always posts the funniest child.

[A]

Oh, yes. I love it.

[C]

Yo, there was one where you looked like Usher from the My Way video.

[B]

What video?

[A]

That hat. Right.

[C]

I think I screenshot it. Yo, every single birthday, she always posts a photo I'd never seen before.

[B]

I wish she would stop.

[C]

Why?

[B]

And stop tagging me. You're my sister.

[C]

But why are you not reposting?

[D]

You got a photo like this small, that the.

[B]

No, I promise. I can promise you.

[C]

No, look. Look at your text message.

[B]

Julian. No photo of me. Like that never happened.

[C]

Are you sure? Because I just sent one to Julian.

[B]

Just now with mascara on my face.

[C]

I mean, it's shadowy because it looks like it was like the 90s. So.

[A]

Make sure you block her face out. I don't want her face in it. Okay.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that was. That.

[C]

That's not Usher in the My Way video.

[B]

Yeah, that was at. I was at somebody's sweet 16.

[D]

I think that's a sick hat.

[C]

What did you see that had you so perplexed?

[B]

Probably some ass know me back then.

[A]

You look like Cal Mitchell.

[D]

You do.

[B]

You do look like.

[A]

I didn't even think.

[C]

I never would put that together. You look like Kel.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Not in real life, but in that picture.

[C]

That is a crazy chain.

[D]

Nice.

[C]

Is that a corsage?

[B]

On who?

[C]

Me. Oh, what?

[A]

Rory.

[B]

I don't know what that's. That's like for the croissant when you get there. I don't know what that's called. Okay, persons. Whoever. I forgot who said that was definitely a sweet 16.

[C]

What made you go with that hat? Like, did you plan that days prior? Like you knew you was gonna kill him.

[D]

You laid that on the bed.

[C]

All white theme. Yeah, I gotta. I gotta have.

[B]

From 3rd Ave. Yeah, I gotta give them the cream. The cream. The cream fedora. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

Yeah, that's like come color that Damaris would say.

[A]

That's actually not nut colored. Actually, it's a little bit too cream. No, that's like. That's gonorrhea. Nut color.

[C]

I was about to say unhealthy.

[D]

Yeah, it's like the one that the guy slept with.

[B]

The.

[C]

Did you end up doing anything for your birthday over the weekend?

[B]

No, I mean, I'm gonna have a dinner with two of my homeboys. I was it.

[C]

Oh, that's cute.

[B]

Like, they forced me to.

[C]

Did you wear that?

[B]

God, no.

[A]

Did they pay?

[B]

Hell yeah. Call me out my house and then make me Pay. Get the out of here. I was. I was chilling. I had to come outside.

[C]

That would be kind of wild. Like, separate checks. Yeah, no, you. You dragged me out.

[B]

I told me to meet y'all here. Like, I had no intentions on coming outside today.

[C]

Well, yeah. Again, that's my favorite part of your birthday season.

[B]

Yeah. She always finds a way to find. I don't even know. I didn't even know she still had those. Those pictures.

[C]

Thank God that her IG is private.

[B]

Is it?

[C]

Because if some of those photos got out, Reddit would have a field day.

[A]

I don't. I don't know if it's private or if people just don't know how to find her.

[C]

Well, let's. I don't know, let's not make them try.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[C]

Voicemails.

[D]

Yes. A reminder, call in. Every tier has access to the voicemails on Patreon, and we'll get to them as soon as we can. Here we go.

[B]

What's up, Sub? Julian, baby. Dude.

[C]

Hey, this is Bernie calling from Southern California.

[B]

So I just had a quick question. A couple years back, I started hanging out with this girl that was actually an ex of my best friend.

[C]

And we started going, you know, getting.

[B]

Close, and we fooled around, you know, a little bit. But I had asked for permission. I. I had asked my friend if he was cool with it, to get his blessing, and he said he didn't. It didn't bother him. And a little backstory, like, I didn't really know them when they were together.

[C]

I wasn't really talking to my friend.

[B]

At that time, so I didn't. I never knew them as a couple. Wasn't until years later, after they were.

[C]

Already broken, you know, we.

[B]

We hung out, and she was. She was feeling me, and, you know, she was a baddie, in my opinion.

[C]

So, you know, of course I was.

[B]

Wanting to get some. So my question was, are all of.

[C]

Your friends exes off limits? Limits? Yes.

[B]

Is that cool?

[C]

If they're cool, it's not cool.

[B]

Am I scumbag?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He said, baby, love is love.

[B]

All right, check you guys later. He want to see what I say. You're a piece of you.

[A]

Not.

[C]

He said his name in the beginning. Right?

[A]

You asked your friend for permission?

[C]

Bernie. He also put in this title, Bernie, AKA B Dog. You're not B Dog after you. Your man's be dogging your man's girls. Cause that has to be a nickname your friends would call you if you have that there. You're not B Dog after you. Fuck my Ex?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If it's your homeboy's ex, you're fucking Weekend at Bernie's.

[B]

If it's just a girl that he was just sleeping with, then I think it's fair game. But X? No.

[A]

Yeah. X is wild. I can't. You know, I want to stick up for it. X is a little wild. But. But this is the thing. Once I ask you for permission and you say it's cool, then I don't want to hear nothing.

[D]

But that's not what happened.

[A]

He said he asked him for permission and his homeboy said it was cool.

[D]

After he beat. After he beat.

[C]

Which is cool.

[A]

He said that afterwards.

[C]

No, he said that story went.

[A]

That's how permission.

[B]

After you beat.

[A]

No, he's asking for.

[C]

Don't ask permission, just ask for forgiveness.

[A]

Yeah, but he said he. He said he asked before. He.

[B]

And I feel like once, you know, you gotta ask, you know it's wrong.

[A]

Not exactly.

[C]

Wait, you're assuming the message, the way he told that story. I'm positive he said it.

[A]

Well, maybe we listen differently, but he.

[C]

He said that's crazy.

[D]

Hold on.

[B]

So I just had a quick question. A couple years back, I started hanging out with this girl that was actually an ex of my best friend.

[C]

And we started going, you know, getting.

[B]

Close, and we fooled around, you know, a little bit. But I had asked for permission.

[A]

I had asked for permission. I had asked, which means I had.

[B]

Asked my friend if he was cool with it, to get his blessing. And he said he didn't.

[C]

It didn't bother him.

[B]

So he asked first. He asked a little backstory, like, I didn't really know.

[C]

He said he.

[B]

He said it backwards first, though.

[A]

He said I had asked.

[B]

But either way, if you feel like you got to ask for permission, you mean that? That's like, you know you're not supposed to be doing that.

[A]

I asked Rory permission before.

[B]

To do what to some.

[A]

One of his exes?

[B]

Yeah, but that's because you felt like that was wrong.

[A]

No, I just wanted to make sure that he. I feel like asking.

[B]

You asking because you feel like it's wrong.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Damaris, what are we doing today, yo? Because when the top of the show, we've been at it.

[A]

I don't know who that is.

[B]

It's asking for permission. Stop acting like it's not asking for permission, cuz you know it's wrong. I'm talking to you, you ain't talking to me.

[C]

What's up in those scenarios, though, Cuz, like, you'll have some ego if you have A friend ask you that type of. And be like, I mean, if you could get her, like, yeah, that's exactly what we're like, go ahead. And then they end up getting her and you sitting there like, damn. But you should have said no.

[B]

You asking because you feel like it's wrong?

[A]

Well, no. You want to check the temperature? You might not feel it's wrong, but your friend might feel like the temperature.

[B]

Gonna be hot, cuz it's wrong.

[A]

No, you listen. It might be cool to you, but.

[B]

It'S hot to somebody else, cuz it's wrong, you know?

[A]

Not exactly. It's some stuff that's cool to me, that's hot to you. That don't mean that you wrong or I'm right. We both have different views.

[C]

A legitimate ex is. Cuz when you asked, it wasn't a legitimate.

[A]

It wasn't a legitimate ex. No.

[B]

Well, there you go.

[C]

That changed. A legitimate ex to me is.

[A]

But he did go on later to say that he didn't find out how they. How close they were until after he thought like, oh, that was just somebody he used to, like, mess around with. He found out like, that they was in it. In it after he said he wasn't around when they were. Were, you know, dating.

[C]

You might have been asleep in the car in Vegas. But I had a friend that had asked me a long time ago. Like he had known I had slept with a woman and was just like, yo, like, you cool if I shoot her? It's been a really long time. But it wasn't an ex. It was just, you know, whatever. I was like, yeah, go ahead. Seen him in Vegas. I think you was asleep in the back.

[A]

No, I. I asked.

[C]

No, yo, that is crazy. I said, why you think I said yes?

[B]

That's fucked up.

[D]

That's fucked up. Should have prefaced this and go for it.

[B]

That's hate. Yeah, that's hate.

[D]

Go for it.

[B]

But you got to send. You can't set the screen and send him into like the blind.

[C]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why all of a sudden is this my responsibility? You asked about a girl I haven't slept with in so long. Just ask me. And I'm like, all right, go ahead.

[B]

But you could. No, but you could have threw in there like, yo, but yo, shorty's crazy.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

She could have progressed.

[A]

I'm like, hey, that's hate. If your homeboy want, holla at me, don't tell him I'm crazy. He can find out if I'm crazy. I might not Be crazy with him.

[B]

That's my homework. He walking into it.

[A]

If he was that close to your homeboy, he wouldn't be trying to me. So.

[B]

That's not true. We him and flee him. That's how we do.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Roy said you can go talk to 45.

[C]

I'm with you.

[B]

I don't do that anymore.

[C]

I'm messing with you.

[B]

I don't do that.

[D]

Or I can say, you can go talk to her. But just so you know, when I was with her or when I was seeing her, whatever, however you want to word it, she was a little off.

[B]

The.

[C]

The conversation made me uncomfortable to begin with.

[B]

With.

[C]

Because I don't like that type of period. So I wasn't about to have a full conversation. I don't talk to me about someone I. Years and years ago. And you're asking if it's okay? Like, just go do that?

[B]

No, no. People gotta ask, though.

[C]

They gotta ask if it was my ex or someone that I was like, really with with. Yeah, of course I would want my friend or associate to ask, but like, oh, no, no, don't.

[B]

No, I don't do that.

[C]

Now all of a sudden, Julian's trying to give me that. I have to have stipulations in this conversation to explain how cr.

[B]

But don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[A]

Still be. And it don't even be, like, known. Like, you could have still been hitting that girl if you wanted to. And he might not know. Like, men be lying about what they're doing and keeping secrets.

[C]

Okay, but when.

[A]

When he asked me what people and I ain't know.

[B]

Yeah, but you can't. But you can't say that.

[C]

That's because your group chat too active now. I don't know when you only had like three people in your group chat. That was cool. Now you got like 12. So I don't. I don't know those other people.

[D]

The marriage is right, though. It could have just been a temp check for you.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I'm gonna do this anyway, but I wanna let you know that I'm gonna do this, but I'm gonna make it seem like I'm.

[D]

Even though I know you've publicly said you're not hitting it. This is the opportunity to confide in me. Are you still hitting it? Because if not, I'm going to go for it.

[A]

And I popped up from the back seat like, damn, me too.

[C]

Why do I have to have, like, obligations to that conversation if it's somebody I Don't even speak to.

[A]

But he doesn't know.

[B]

But if it's your friend, your friend, your friend, you speak to your friend. Friend, your friend has seen or met an ex of yours and is thinking about, you know, engaging in that and seeing where that goes and, you know, taking it to another level. I think that it is right for your friend to ask you or let you know. Like, yo, I know you used to talk to Shorty. I used to date. Whatever. Whatever. Like, yo, we kind of had a little energy.

[C]

Like, again, not mad at the intentions of the conversation, because that was. That came from a good place. Just want to let you know, like, I've been talking, not talking to her, but like, we exchanged numbers or whatever, because they live in the same city that is not this city. So they run it. We all run in the same circles. And he had known that I had had a previous encounter with her.

[B]

Encounter or X?

[C]

Definitely not X. Oh, so how long.

[D]

Was the hookup phase?

[C]

It was a pretty long time.

[B]

Oh, so he. Because that's how.

[D]

Because I know how to trap Rory. Because he's not just like, I met her in college.

[C]

That's not fair there.

[B]

Why is that not fair?

[A]

How long?

[C]

Because that allows mad years.

[A]

When were y'all and what years were y'all active? You know, they say this person, this actor was active between these years. Yeah. What years were y'all active? Not years. Well, how many years?

[C]

If you. If you see a girl once or twice a year and in that encounter.

[D]

Y'All sleep with each other, that's consistent.

[B]

Once or twice a year.

[D]

Especially when you don't live in the same city. It's like a. It's like going to the doctor. Like, you're. You're planning this.

[B]

If you had sex with a girl.

[A]

Twice a year, bi, quarterly, That's a lot.

[C]

That's the max. Like, there'd be years where I wouldn't at all.

[B]

Oh, so then I don't gotta ask no permission. That was just a hookup. He was just hooking up.

[D]

But how many years was this a.

[A]

Thing you doing that for? 8 years, twice a year.

[C]

Stop running into me.

[B]

Y'all just using each other whenever y'all the person that y'all really want and y'all on outs. That's just who you go back to. That's just like your. Your dugout.

[A]

I kill a about my dugout, so I don't know, but they're being a dugout.

[C]

It wasn't consistent for eight years, but there would be like a two Year span where we'd once in that two year span and then like, not for.

[A]

Like a year because we were five times the next.

[B]

I'm not asking no permission. I'm not. I'm not letting my homie know that me and Shorty. You was her twice a year, maybe once a year.

[C]

That's why I was kind of.

[B]

Ah, fam.

[C]

He just was aware. Like, how he had even initially seen her before was because she was around me. So that's why he knew.

[B]

I get it.

[C]

And then. But now that they're in another city and live in the same city in the same circles, he knows. He met her through me.

[B]

Got it. So did he know that y'all was only having sex like twice a year?

[A]

No, he don't know that.

[C]

No, because I don't. Like, I didn't tell the group chat that.

[B]

No, I'm not saying you did. But I'm just saying that he know how consistently y'all were hooking up.

[C]

He didn't. No, he didn't.

[B]

So now I can understand him asking, because he probably thought it was something more serious. Serious, like, yeah, cool.

[C]

And again, I wasn't mad at his intention of asking, but I don't think I'm required to give more information after that.

[A]

No, you shouldn't have told him that that girl was crazy.

[C]

Like, it's. I'm uncomfortable already. Like, I don't give a. For any of my friends at this point to go date someone that I. I think it's kind of weird. I wouldn't do it. But if you want to do that from some past that I've had. I'm 33 now, 34.

[A]

You could at least put it a.

[C]

Good 34 years old.

[A]

Like, don't.

[C]

Don't tell me I have a past. Like, go ahead. I don't care if you got my ex. Go ahead.

[A]

I don't care if you gonna hate. If you're gonna send hate. As far as saying, oh, that crazy, make sure you say that crazy. But her good. And she cooked real good. She looked beautiful.

[B]

Why is it hate if you really crazy, though? If you really crazy, you gonna say the bad.

[A]

Said it good.

[B]

Yeah. But if you really crazy, I feel like you should tell your friend, say.

[A]

I put you down in five seconds.

[B]

Like, if you. If you ask. If you ask to talk to one of my homeboys, right? And I'm like, yo, Damaris, listen, he cool, but the little jealous, insecure. He could get crazy at times. You don't think that I should tell you that Mo?

[C]

If she stabbed me, yes, I would tell my homeboy, you probably shouldn't do that. She's the regular level woman, crazy, like, nothing to write home about. She's just a fucking nuts woman.

[B]

Yeah, but obviously he came back to you and was like, yo, this is crazy. Yeah, so why you ain't tell me that, nigga? Tell me she crazy?

[A]

Because you might not make her crazy. There's obviously, there's some men that will say I was crazy, and there's some men that were like, damaris is the most level headed person, the most logical person. Everybody experiences a different you. Like, no, it's actually the opposite. Ev, everybody experiences a different you, so you can't. I'm not gonna sit up there and say she crazy and then I go deal with her in a.

[B]

Well, him and Rory experienced the same crazy, cuz he came back like, yo.

[C]

That also in that type of conversation. I'll take it to another level. If I ever caught Kia texting her friend, if her friend was like, yo, I know you used to sleep with this dude or whatever, Like, I know it wasn't a real thing, but like, like we're talking now and whatever, and they have a full blown conversation about their history, I would have an issue with that.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Why the you go back and forth with your friend about old dick? Like, my answer to. I almost said his name. My answer to him was, go ahead. I'm not about to sit and reminisce like, yo, this is what happened with this. This is like, this is who she is. Like, going in my life. What the am I talking about?

[B]

About you got to do all that.

[C]

Yester year if Kia did that exact scenario with her homegirl. Like, no, I don't. I mean, yeah, I used to with him. This is what happened. This is where he's weird like this and starts going down his whole.

[A]

You'd be mad about that?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What the. Just say yes or no. Like, why are you even having that conversation?

[A]

Because that's how girls talk is girly. If you did it, it would be weird. But it's girly. Girls chat.

[C]

Okay, Chatty.

[D]

Yeah, they do be talking.

[A]

Yeah, like it's chat. It's girls chatting.

[B]

Like, yeah, just tell me. If she crazy and you ain't gotta.

[C]

Tell, then ask the question.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, if I'm asking you though, is it cool if I holla at her? Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but off the. Off the gut head, Go ahead, lean into the father would say, yeah, what murder?

[C]

Go ahead, Lean into the.

[B]

Lean into the. Yo, but she a little. She a bug out, though.

[C]

I don't know that to be the case now.

[B]

Like, okay, well, say. Say it from your experience.

[A]

He might not have bugout dick. Like, you know, I don't want to send you.

[C]

Oh, no, she was crazy.

[B]

But that's what I'm saying. Sometimes they just crazy. That's why I'm not with her. That's why we didn't work out.

[A]

That's. Hey, don't. Don't hate if you're gonna pass. If your homeboy come for a recommendation, tell them the good. Don't tell him the bad. Don't hate. Don't dirty back. That's dirty macking.

[B]

How's it really crazy if you're not crazy? That's dirty macking. Like, if you cool and I ain't never experienced no crazy with you. And then like, yo, she crazy.

[A]

Crazy is subjective.

[D]

Well, they're two for two with these guys. Like, that seems.

[B]

She seems pretty consistent, you know, maybe.

[A]

They'Re just strong naked.

[B]

She's crazy crazy, myself.

[C]

Yeah, both y'all are lying. If you ever caught your girlfriends having a conversation with their homegirl like that via text.

[D]

Oh, I would. I would not be cool with that at all.

[C]

Yeah, so, like, let's. Let's not all pretend like, if her. Oh, that's just what girls do. If one of our homegirls was like, yo, I know you used to just around with this dude in the past, but, like, I'm talking to him now. I just want to get your permission so it's not weird. If you see me pop up with him and she says anything besides yes or no, you would have big an issue with that.

[A]

This is why I feel like if.

[C]

You start going into, like, yo, this is what happened in our relationship. This is what happened. Like, he did this, he did that. Like, why are you even talking about that? Well, unless it was like, some violence.

[A]

My friend came and asked me about something. And second of all, this is why I feel like. And this is why I'm so anti going through phones, because every conversation isn't for you to see. I agree. You see what I'm saying? Like, conversations that I have, like, with my friends about my man or somebody that I'm dating, a lot of that stuff he not going to want to hear because this. It's me and my girls. Like, the same way you. The same way that we talk about certain people that we're dating, we would never want the people that we're dating. To hear that or to see that there's conversations that me and you have had that you would never want Kia to hear. Doesn't mean you're cheating. Doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong. But she just wouldn't be able to hear it with the ear that we hear it.

[C]

And I'm saying with the things that I can prevent that aren't necessary, I'm going to prevent them and I. You're going to get an answer that's going to. Gonna say, go ahead.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And just. It's gonna be done at that. I'm not about to reminisce with my man's about what happened because he's trying to.

[A]

But it ain't like you, like, damn, like you about to hit that. Let me tell you about how that hit at 7:00pm on that.

[B]

Yeah, let's see.

[C]

That's at that point. At that point, that's kind of gay.

[B]

That's. That's different. I'm gonna just say that type of conversation is different. But if she's legit crazy, just give me a little heads up. She.

[C]

She's regular woman crazy.

[B]

All right, well, just give me a little heads up, that's all.

[C]

She didn't burn my house down. She didn't hit me.

[B]

I'm just like.

[C]

She's just regular woman nuts.

[A]

Is she fine enough for that not to matter?

[C]

That's why, you know, that's why it took eight years.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

The same one I asked for permission for.

[D]

Did you hit.

[A]

No. Oh, I didn't try.

[C]

Do we have one more voicemail?

[D]

Oh, yes, we do. Ooh, this will be fun for this room. What's going on, family?

[B]

This is T from the dmv. Hey, real quick, before I get into my. I hate when people call in and say all y'all names individually. I don't know if that blows the out of y'all, but it blow the out of me. Ain't got nothing to do with nothing.

[C]

It's a longer intro issue.

[B]

Right. So I'm married. Me and my wife have a daughter. She's about nine months old. And my wife is a stay at home mom, which is cool.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, you know, as far as like, your pockets go, whatever is like kind of trash because she not working no more. But it is what it is. You know what I mean?

[D]

The baby's happy, she's happy.

[B]

It's all good. My only problem is is that like, she very much takes like, taking care of the baby as like her only job and Like I am.

[D]

Before we go.

[A]

I gotta go.

[D]

No, come on, come on. Initial thoughts. I knew. I knew this would be a great one to end on. We'll keep going. We'll keep going.

[C]

I'm all ears.

[D]

Yeah, this is fun. All right, here we go.

[C]

Scared where he's gonna take this trained chef.

[B]

So I come home, I cook. You know what I mean? I still might clean up a little bit and everything like that or whatever.

[D]

But, like, very much.

[B]

If I leave the house or whatever, I come home and, like, it still looks exactly like it did. And, like, you know, you can't make it seem like, hey, do something else or whatever, because, like, you can't make it seem like taking care of a baby is light work, but also, hey, can you do something else? Like, you know what I mean? So, you know, how would y'all go about having that conversation? So it sounds like he wants his. His wife to do more at home while he's gone.

[D]

Yes. In short.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I let everyone without kids start the combo.

[B]

I guess I could kind of sort of see what he's saying, but if there's. If the house is clean, the baby is laying down, sleep taken care of.

[A]

He just said the house don't be clean. So basically, the wife isn't cleaning.

[D]

She's not doing anything besides taking care of the kids. So he's saying he'll come home, he'll still cook, he'll still do the dishes, he'll clean the house, do everything that doesn't pertain to the kid, even though he. He's. He's head by trade. He's a chef. Professional chef.

[B]

Oh. So. Oh, okay. I see what's happening.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So because he's the professional chef, she's assuming that her. He's probably the better cook out of the two, and she's assuming that he's just gonna come home and. Because this is what he does.

[A]

Yeah, you need practice.

[B]

Yeah, but nobody wants to work at home.

[C]

It's called a busman's holiday. When a guy that drives the bus on his days off drives his kids around. It's called a busman's holiday.

[D]

What about cleaning, though?

[B]

Yeah, I think she should. You should definitely find something to do around the house other than if, you know, if the baby's taken care of. Sleep, that's your time to eat. If you wanna rest, cool. Do some things that you wanna do for yourself, great. But if the house is dirty, you should also take that time to clean up the house as well.

[C]

Mo. This very weekend, I had amara by myself from Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night in Jersey, My Caribbean Jersey. That house is a disaster right now. The only time I would really have time to clean up would possibly be during the one hour nap that she takes in the middle of the day. At that point I had stayed up the entire night before. I was fucking exhausted. That time where you need to just do nothing sometimes only comes when your child is sleeping for that hour, hour.

[B]

And a half for sure.

[C]

It is so easy to let a house just go when you have a toddler. And don't get me wrong, the way Big T over here is talking is sort of how I felt in the beginning a bit. When I came back, I was like, damn man, I'm working non stop and then I come home and then I clean, I cook, I do laundry, all this shit. I got rid of that mentality after two weeks. Once I had had a few weekends of just me and Amar. I'm like, oh, you can't get shit done with a top toddler. And anytime you clean something up, once they wake up from that nap, it's going to be redestroyed. Yeah, like even trying to feed a kid is an entire part of the house is going to get destroyed. He should have a bit more compassion when it comes to that. Yes. It's tough to work all day and then come home and it's like, all right, any free time I would have is now fully in trying to make sure she has some free time. Like, what the did you do all day? Sit with your kid for a week, do roll reverse. Big T, let me know how you, how you think. Let's see how much you get done. No, and listen, I feel, I feel him. Yeah, but you have no idea what the it is like when you have one hour out the day that could have some free time. No, the house is gonna be clean. Yeah, I can't even go food shopping.

[B]

And it's a nine month old. So it's a, it's a, it's a new baby. But I mean, I understand. Like he's going, he's at work all day. He come home. The last thing you want to come home to is a dirty house. I get that. But at the same time, raising a baby, raising a child, a nine month old is non stop work until that baby either decides I'm going to take a nap. What if the baby doesn't take a nap? Up all day with the baby. Feeding dishes, pampers, clothes, whatever, toys everywhere. I get how that goes alongside just.

[A]

Pure exhaustion because babies don't sleep.

[C]

And I mean, obviously we don't know them, but I'm sure she gives you some grace and lets you sleep because you have to work in the morning, so she's up all night. And when you know it's just you, you're the only responsible person. You don't ever really get into REM sleep. Like, you close your eyes and you're kind of asleep, but you have that paranoia of the kid wake, especially at nine months, super paranoid. You never get real sleep. Yeah, you just close your eyes, you get a bunch of 30 minute naps, you wake up the next. No, I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm not mopping the fucking floors today.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so this is why we had this conversation on the podcast before. We've had it off mic too. And I've had it with men and they get so angry when I say this, when I would say, oh, I want to be a stay at home mom. And then I'll be like, but I also want a nanny. And they'd be like, what? How the fuck could you be a stay at home mom and still want a nanny? Like, you know, for the beginning stages of, like, having a kid. And it's like, because I don't want to completely lose myself and being a mom. That the other roles that I also play of a daughter where I have aging parents, a wife, a sister, a friend, and just me who I am alone to all be lost in being a mother, because I have now the only thing I can do is be a mom. That's the only thing I have time for. No, I still want the nanny because I want to be able to clean my house and keep it the way that my husband and me are used to before we had a kid. I want to be able to support my husband emotionally and physically. I want to have enough energy to visit my parents and make sure that they're okay. So I don't want my entire, my child to be my entire life because that is when I see moms go into depression. That is when I see marriages start to break up. Because at the end of the day, you are in a relationship. And yes, this person needs to be understanding, but people still have feelings and emotion and needs that they need their partner to meet that have been being met for years. So a mom can't be everything to everyone. So to ask for help, which is one of the reasons why I'm waiting to have a kid. I want to be able to afford help and everybody can't. But if you if this person can't afford help, you need to understand that. No, like, some things are going to fall by the wayside and it can't be the baby. The baby can't fall by the wayside. So what's going to have to change?

[C]

And nine months.

[A]

That's.

[C]

That's. That's. Peak postpartum.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Peak postpartum. Depression.

[A]

Depressed. No. I don't want to clean. I get depressed and don't want to clean. And I don't have any kids, so I can't imagine having a kid where I don't even want to get out of bed. I don't feel the same about myself. I don't. I feel fat or out of shape or I don't feel like my life is completely upside down. The only thing I can get out of bed to do is to make sure this baby survives. And that's all I have.

[B]

Where's. Where's her tribe at?

[A]

Not everybody has a tribe. A lot of people have nobody.

[B]

That's one.

[C]

Well, even like with. With the tribe of people I have, there's. There's people with tribes that also don't trust their tribe when it comes to kids.

[B]

And that ain't your tribe.

[A]

No, you can have.

[C]

No, no. They just know nothing about children.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I have great people around me, but some of them literally have no idea what it would take to even watch a toddler for two hours. Hours.

[B]

Well, if he.

[D]

If he were to give. If he were to broach this conversation with his wife, how should he do it? Because it sounds like we all agree, like, we understand being the stay. Oh, mom is much harder than it's. Yeah, we got. We're on board with that. But if he were to. Because it sounds like, you know, the same could be said for him. Sounds like he's also doing a lot. They're both doing a lot. So then what can be done for some mutual. You know what I mean, Alleviation on both of their sides, like, what would that look like? How could he have this conversation with her without, like, offending her is kind of what I'm asking. Asking.

[C]

Obviously, I'm not sure his schedule because he said he was a professional chef. I don't know if that means he's getting home at like 3am Those are usually late hours. But if I were to do a general advice. You just need to sit with your partner and put strategies together.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which took he and I a long time to even get into that routine. But there'll be nights, like, all right, I know, I'm getting back from the pot at this time. I'll cook and you do bath time. Or I'll come right in and you. I'll do bath time. And then she'll start cooking or she'll start cleaning. Like, you really need to schedule this. We even put a Google calendar together at some point, like with tasks of how to make this easier to give everyone a break. Like, I know when I leave here, I'm going in to do bath time. She'll cook, we'll eat, we'll feed Amara. Key will put her down at that point, I can rest for the 30 minutes it takes to put Amara down and then we can chill. Like, you really have to create, create a schedule. But nine months in isn't a lot.

[A]

Of time because the baby isn't on.

[C]

A schedule and the baby's changing. Especially at nine months. Every day's a different thing with the kid at that point. You kind of have to tough it out in the beginning before you can get on that schedule because it's rough, man. I know it. Like, even the weekends where I would want a break, it's like, well, I need to give Kia a break. She had a full time job this week too, right? Okay. I had to go out this night. I had a business dinner this and that. I got home at 11. She did everything for that day. Like those things, I'm not saying going tit for tat, but you do need to find a 50, 50 split in those things. That's also still your kid. Like, I'm also on the non mental health side, which I've talked about with my therapist before, when she's like, you need to think about yourself when it comes to this. And. And all your free time goes to making sure he has free time. And I'm still a man. I'm a father. At the end of the day, like, stop being a bitch and be a fucking man and take care of your kid. Yeah. Every generation of males in my family before this went to work and took care of their kids. Now all of a sudden I'm be like, well, I feel weird today.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No one has felt like, what am I going through? Even though I think that's important. And you guys know I'm a huge mental health advocate of this entire thing. Talk about depression. I've talked about suicide side. I'm also a man and a father now.

[D]

Right.

[C]

So a lot of that has to get pushed to the side.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

I'm exhausted when I walk in.

[D]

Yeah, that's Right.

[B]

Your exhaustion, it. Yeah, Suck it up, man.

[C]

100.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Drinkable.

[C]

Drinkable. We're joking. But I still think that's a huge factor that men need to take into consideration.

[B]

Like.

[C]

Yeah, that is your family. If you want to be the man and be the leader and be. You're all that masculine that we talk about and we've said society has gotten real and weird. All right. If. If you want to do the opposite, it sucks. If you want to be the leader of your house, man the up and do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Come home after work, make sure your family is okay. I thought you want to be masculine. Right. You hate these liberals that go to. To therapy.

[B]

Yeah. What about Nasty Time?

[C]

You men.

[B]

More sex.

[C]

Well, that's. I mean, that's got a schedule that.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, you pencil that in.

[A]

You got to pencil that in for, like, the first five years of a kid's life.

[B]

Scheduling sex is rough.

[D]

Pencil that in. Get it?

[B]

Pencil. We got it, Julian. Thank you very much.

[C]

But that's also weird, too. Like, you know, your kid doesn't sleep through the night that way, even if you're in another room, you got to be. It's weird. It's always weird.

[A]

Your ear. Your eye. Your ear is always open. Make sure they don't wake up.

[D]

Clapping cheeks, staring at the baby monitor. It's whack.

[C]

It's real.

[D]

No, I know it sounds awful, but.

[C]

Yeah, the phone is right there with the video.

[B]

Tickets available now newroarimal.com we will be in Toronto October 17th. We will be in Atlanta November 22nd, then back home in New York City December 14th. Get your tickets now. Hope to see some of y'all soon. And, yeah, man, I'm gonna pray for you, my brother. Hopefully you go home in the houses clean.

[C]

We've gotten to a schedule, so, like. Yeah, that's. That's easy now, right?

[B]

That's pimping. That's pimping right there.

[C]

It took a. It took a while.

[B]

Yeah, I get it. Shout out to Big T. Hopefully, Big T, you know, you can.

[C]

Oh, Big T is going to be so mad when they start daycare. And he thinks that his life is going to change. Like, oh, yeah, all right. No. All right. She's not working, but she's. We have daycare, so she can take that time. No, that's gonna get her mental stability back.

[B]

Like, how. Still a mess.

[C]

Yeah, but you go clean your house. You're a fucking adult.

[B]

Ain't nothing wrong with going home from work and cleaning. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[C]

Be A man. Take care of your family, clean the house.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Can't do laundry just because you chop garlic for a living.

[B]

Right? Don't do that. Because Big T, probably a great chef, I'm sure. Don't just make him.

[C]

Oh, no. In another lifetime, I would have loved. That would have been a career I would have picked.

[B]

All right, well, good to see you back, baby D. I'm sorry that our energy got off on the wrong foot.

[A]

Yeah, you kind of came on. I don't. We got.

[B]

But I love you, though. So, you know, that's how I talk when I love. You know what I'm saying? I love from. You know what I mean? It's sometimes hurt.

[C]

It was a good journey. Love hurts up and down sometimes.

[B]

My words.

[A]

No, love should never hurt.

[B]

It hurt a little bit. A little bit. You know what I'm saying? Because we all. We growing and we getting better every day. So I love you no matter what. Julian. It's good to see you. Your hair is looking conditioned to the gods. Thank you very much for joining us here today.

[D]

I have new hair products. This is not our natural. As I've been saying. This is. I forget what the name of the products are, but they're nice.

[B]

Want to thank y'all for listening, man. Thank y'all for joining us on this audio and this visual journey. Ernie, Peaches. Thank you once again. My brother Rory.

[D]

Is that worth laughing at?

[B]

Really, Julian. Don't worry about it. I love it.

[C]

Can I tell you guys that I saw Chris Estefano at the Mets game? And the first thing he yelled at me while we were waiting for food was, where's Peaches?

[B]

Peaches. Right there. That's funny.

[C]

Like, yelling at. I was like, yo, who the fuck just said that? Peace.

[B]

We had a lot of Yankees games, man.

[D]

He does.

[B]

Every time I look at Pete's story. He had a Yankee game, man.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Bad. We told you that last year.

[C]

Playoff starting, prediction pod, Subway series.

[B]

I don't know, man. Be safe, be blessed, enjoy the week. I'm that. He's just ginger.

[A]

I'm that bitch.

[C]

No worrying mouth.